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CN railway train carrying potash, woodchips derails in Saint John

June 21, 2020, 10:38 am
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Methinks folks should ask where the potash is coming from and why N'esy Pas?


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CN railway train carrying potash, woodchips derails in Saint John

Derailment expected to be cleaned up by this afternoon


Sarah Morin· CBC News· Posted: Jun 21, 2020 11:08 AM AT |



One of the CN Rail cars that derailed Saturday night was empty but had previously contained liquid sulphur. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)

A Canadian National Railway train carrying potash, woodchips and an empty car that had contained sulphur derailed over a gas pipeline in Saint John on Saturday night. 

Eight cars were derailed around 6:30 p.m., causing two street closures and forcing businesses in the area to shut down early, said Steve Vautour, platoon chief with the Saint John Fire Department.

McAllister Drive to Russell Street remains closed as fire crews clean up the area.
 
"We're working on a plan right now to upright all the cars that have been toppled over," Vautour said. 

Vautour wouldn't speculate on the cause. The derailment should be cleaned up by mid-afternoon, he said.



One of the cars that came off its tracks when a CN train derailed Saturday. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)

No leaks, fires or injuries resulted from the derailment, said a statement from CN.

"CN would like to apologize for the inconvenience caused by this incident," said company spokesperson Jonathan Abecassis in an emailed statement.

Abecassis said CN would not be doing interviews about the derailment Sunday.

Six of the derailed cars contained potash, one contained woodchips and the eighth contained residue of its previous load, liquid sulphur.
 

A train derailed Saturday evening, knocking several cars off the track. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)

The fire department is staying on scene to make sure the empty hazardous material car is handled safely.

"We're just there to make sure everything is conducted in the proper manner," Vautour said.

Several businesses on Rothesay Avenue were forced to close early because of last night's derailment, including the The Med Restaurant.

Owner Chris Likourgiotis was in his office doing paperwork when the derailment occurred.

"When heavy trains go by we'll feel a bit of a rumble in the building," he said.

"Around 6:30 p.m. I felt not just a rumble but it felt like an earthquake. The whole building was shaking and it lasted for about 15 seconds."


 
A railway car slid off its track, toppling a poll. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)

Likourgiotis jumped out of his chair and ran to the kitchen, where people were screaming about a train derailing. 

When Likourgiotis ran outside, he saw the train cars toppled over, a downed power line and two lamp posts knocked over.

The car containing liquid sulphur residue from its previous load was shifted off its track and leaning less than two metres away from one of his chef's vehicles.

"If it was full, it would have been a catastrophic event."
 

One of the train cars that derailed contained liquid sulphur residue from an earlier load. It derailed near a vehicle. (Submitted by Chris Likourgiotis)

Likourgiotis told his customers, some who were halfway through their meals, to leave his restaurant.  
Along with the fire department, NB Power, Liberty Utilities and NB Southern Railway crews also responded to the derailment.

Trains pass by the area "many times" during the day, Likourgiotis said.

About two years ago there was a minor derailment behind the restaurant.

"It was one or two vehicles or cars that were tilted a little bit on the side, but nothing like this."

With files from Sarah Haliburton and Blair Sanderson


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37 Comments 




David Amos
Methinks folks should ask where the potash is coming from and why N'esy Pas?


Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: locally sourced? Didn't you get your wish when you protested out front in Sussex like a mo r on?


Dan Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: Why does it matter where it came from?


Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: Wish I had the free time you did doing that! Davey Boy is your CERB more than your social assistance? Methinks you riding pretty high right now Lee ccch


























Jef Cronkhite
Somebody needs to take the Irving's toys away before someone gets seriously hurt! This is happening WAY too often!


Chuck Gendron 
If it wasn't for Irving there would be no railroad left in Saint John, then these products would go by truck.


Dan Stewart
Reply to @Jef Cronkhite: It says it was a CN train not the Irving owned New Brunswick Southern Railway.


David Amos
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks you and the irving Clan are buddies just like Higgy is N'esy Pas? 
 
  
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: How'd the 5 member Leadership Convention of the " Me Part " go ? Did Terry challnge for the leadership ? How were the donuts at Timmies ?? Is the caucu ALL 5 members ? 


Dan Stewart
Reply to @David Amos: Hi there Dave! Still looking for a lawyer or just some attention today?


Ray Oliver 
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Dont you know he "sues" lawyers? Be careful hes a real shark when it comes to that. When hes not lighty doing some bounty hunting for Whitey Bulger that is...
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Ray Oliver: He does seem to be fixated on them for sure. But then again when you think everyone is a lawyer that wouldn't be heard.
Dan Stewart
Reply to @Dan Stewart: Sorry that is Hard not heard.. wouldn't want to get sued by someone over a typo !
























Ken Alls
Not due to incompetence at all. Sometimes the cars get a mind of their own and jump track...
Keep moving , says CN, nothing to see here.


Peter Wylie 
Reply to @Ken Alls:
"Mary Keith, a spokesperson for JDI, said the track was inspected Friday and no issues were reported."
Corrie Weatherfield 
Reply to @Ken Alls: one photo did show a wheel broken off the suspension unit . . . .before or after the derailment ? ? ?
Peter Wylie 
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield:
3rd photo from right to left between the 6th and 7th car you see a gap. Looks like it may have come apart. Just my opinion.
David Amos
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Ask Brucejack Speculator what he knows about it



























Corrie Weatherfield
"liquid sulphur" . . . hmmm ? according to a reference I checked, sulfur melts at about 113 C, or just above boiling point of water . . . does that mean when in use the car is kept warm enough to keep the sulphur liquid . . . or does it really mean the contents were something like sulphuric acid which would be considered quite a hazardous product would it not?


David Amos 

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Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Methinks the Brucejack Speculator is a big fan of Coronation Street N'esy Pas?
SarahRose Werner 
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: If it were stored under pressure, that would decrease the melting point.
Corrie Weatherfield
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: possibly but I can find no reference to pressurized containers as a transportation method. There are references to transporting sulphur as a liquid in insulated heated containers even cargo ships.
SarahRose Werner 
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: So it appears that it's normal to transport sulfur in a liquid state and that this is what the story refers to, not to sulfuric acid.
Corrie Weatherfield
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: not so sure of that . . . the car that is crossed on the tracks (photos 2 & 5) is identified as the car in question . . . to me it looks like a normal tank car without any special heating system . . 
Corrie Weatherfield
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: OKAY, I'll back down . . . under a search for transporting liquid sulphur by rail I found a detailed report on the subject that said something about 10 to 14 days at a certain temperature in an insulated car is what is done . . .and the pictures look a lot like the car in question . . . just that I am always suspicious of any report related to the financial family of NB
















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N.B. border closure leaves Ontario couple stranded in van for almost 2 months

June 21, 2020, 11:48 am
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Methinks Higgy and his minions know why I will try to contact John Oakes N'esy Pas?


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N.B. border closure leaves Ontario couple stranded in van for almost 2 months

Before the pandemic hit, John and Lorraine Oakes planned to retire and move to New Brunswick in May


Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jun 21, 2020 9:00 AM AT |



An Ontario couple has called this van home for almost two months, while they wait to see if they can enter New Brunswick, where they plan to spend retirement. (John Oakes/Submitted)


John Oakes and his wife Lorraine have been living inside their 20-year-old Dodge conversion van for almost two months.

The Ontario couple decided to retire and move to New Brunswick after a two-week vacation three years ago.

So they sold their 3,200-square-foot home in February, chose May 1 as their closing date, and booked a campground spot in Florenceville for May 15, so they could look for a house.



They planned to live in the Woodstock area because of their love for the country and living near water.

Then COVID-19 hit.
"I had nowhere to go," said the 65-year-old.

They've been living inside the 19-foot van on their nephew's 48-acre property, with their cat Snoopy and Australian shephard Gizzy.

The property was previously bought by John's parents in 1969.



John Oakes said he had big plans to retire and live in New Brunswick. But he never expected living in a van to be part of the move. (John Oakes/Submitted)


The property is near Orillia, where they're both from, almost 150 kilometres north of Toronto.
"Other than that I would've been living in a driveway somewhere," said Oakes, the former manager of a motor sport business nearby.

The New Brunswick government has closed its borders to non-essential visitors to help limit the spread of COVID-19. Provincial enforcement officers have set up screening checkpoints to question people coming into the province.

A van is 'not meant for living' 

Oakes said they have everything they need, including bottled water, a generator and a trailer to hold their personal belongings. But it's a tight space for the couple, who has been married for 46 years this coming July.

They have dishes for their pets under their bed. And have purple drapes set up to prevent the sun from getting into their home. But they argue over issues such as toothbrushes getting in the way or doors being left open.

"We are arguing a lot more now than we have been in 45 years, which isn't good or healthy," he said from a lawn chair in the middle of the field.


Lorraine Oakes sits in the couple's bedroom, which could also be considered their kitchen, which sits right next to their washroom. (John Oakes/Submitted)


Oakes gets claustrophobic at night when he's sleeping inside the van, and hyperventilates if a window isn't open.

On Thursday, he was also rushed to the hospital by ambulance after he blacked out for about 45 seconds and stopped breathing. He attributes this to stress and anxiety of not knowing where they're going to live.

"It's a van, it's not meant for living in."

Couple doesn't get a clear answer from government 

But he said the most frustrating part is not being able to receive a clear answer from the New Brunswick government about whether they can come into the province.

"When I can't get answers to questions, it's frustrating," he said.

"Everybody gave me a different answer .... nobody knew."

Oakes said he received an email from Service New Brunswick on Thursday, saying the couple could enter the province as long as they could prove they were not coming for vacation.


New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs expects to see a travel bubble among the Atlantic provinces by early July. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)


At a Friday news briefing, Premier Blaine Higgs said anyone moving to New Brunswick from outside the province can come and self-isolate for 14 days.

"We certainly want to find a way to accommodate that and we want to encourage people to come and live here," Higgs said.

However, if someone wants to come and look at houses to live in, they will have to do so virtually, Higgs said.

"It is problematic."

Atlantic bubble planned for 1st week of July 

Higgs said New Brunswick could open its borders to the rest of Atlantic Canada as early as the beginning of July.

Depending on the number of COVID-19 cases, New Brunswick could open its borders to the rest of Canada by mid-July.

But Oakes and his wife can't wait that long.

He plans to head to Woodstock and self-isolate in a hotel room with his wife on July 1.

There, they will look at potential houses online with an agent, until their two-week self-isolation period is over

"We've got to get out of here."

About the Author

Elizabeth Fraser
Reporter/Editor
Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca


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David Amos
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Methinks Higgy and his minions know why I will try to contact John Oakes N'esy Pas?
 
 
Johnny Almar
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Reply to @David Amos: No one cares about your thoughts other than you.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Nay not so Obviously you do
 
 
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: Free leftover Timbits from the leadership Convention in Timmies parking lot ???
 
 
David Amos 
Content disabled 
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your "Me Party" nonsense has you confused Just the other night you claimed the snitch Almar was going to Timmies for a meeting you dreamed up N'esy Pas?



Terry Tibbs
I have E-Mailed Elizabeth Fraser with an offer to put these folks up, through their isolation period, in an empty property I have........ they have my phone number.


Reply to @Terry Tibbs: thanks for that...nice to see
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @doug kirby:
It's only fair, it's sitting empty, can't sell, can't rent........... though it is amusing, once offered I had, just after, a reasonably serious inquiry. But no matter, my offer stands, they are most welcome to hang there for their 14 days, FREE.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Higgy er al know that I can easily can easily help because i have already done so in the past N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Perhaps you and I should talk
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks if you know a certain Junkman who writes about Shades of Pink Floyd on a certain wall then you can read what I wrote on it as well N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: And REAL name ?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Lourdes Correct?





























Kate LeBlanc
Talk about bad timing. I myself got moved to New Brunswick just in time just before the virus got called a pandemic so I wish you and yours good luck and welcome to New Brunswick and the new world order.


Winston Gray 
Reply to @Kate LeBlanc: New world order? Sheesh some people certainly like to make mountains out of mole hills.
 
 
Kate LeBlanc 
Reply to @Winston Gray: Chill for pete's sake. Just got tired of calling life as it is now "the new normal"
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Winston Gray: Overkill is what I call these rules devoid pf common sense.
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Winston Gray:
We are not allowed to call it what it is.......... and it is very likely a lady would not choose to use those words in public.
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Jos Allaire:
When different rules apply to different folks it is neither overkill, or containing any common sense.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Coming in, quarantining with the intent of moving and staying here should apply to all folks.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: YUP
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Kate LeBlanc: Welcome to the circus
 
 
Winston Gray 
Reply to @Kate LeBlanc: It's just the world, though. It's not "new normal", it's not a "new world order", it's just our world. It literally changes from year to year, but some people simply want to pause society/culture because they are afraid of change.














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Education minister defends return to class plan

June 22, 2020, 11:26 am
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Methinks the former NDP leader loves being in the limelight of Higgy's circus N'esy Pas?



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/dominic-cardy-call-in-1.5622025


Education minister defends return to class plan

Dominic Cardy answered parents questions on CBC Radio call-in show


CBC News· Posted: Jun 22, 2020 12:31 PM AT



“I have to beg on behalf of the teachers and people across the province over the next month...please be patient,” said Cardy. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Education Minister Dominic Cardy said there's one thing he wants to "shout out" to New Brunswickers: the province's COVID-19 education plan is not what he would want in a perfect world.

"I have to beg on behalf of the teachers and people across the province over the next month...please be patient," said Cardy.

"People are doing their best. I know it's frustrating and it's a difficult time but it is going to be difficult and there are going to be problems and there are going to be things that don't work properly."

Two weeks ago, the province announced their plan for a return to in-classroom learning in the fall.
Cardy answered a few of parents most pressing questions on a province-wide call–in show which aired on CBC Radio One on Monday morning.

What happens if a child at school is diagnosed with COVID-19?

Cardy said details are still being worked out with public health, but it appears that school would have to close in those cases.

"The intention at the moment is that you're going to see closures based on cases and aggressive cleaning protocols then put in place for a short while to make sure that there's absolutely no risk to the virus still being in the schools," said Cardy.


Information Morning - Fredericton
Phone-in with Education minister
Minister Dominic Cardy takes questions about the return to school this fall. 37:21


"Then the practice you've seen in most places is that you then wait for the infection period to play out."

This would require students to start learning from home again, which Cardy says will be more robust than it was in the spring. But he acknowledges there will be challenges.

"I would guess there'll be problems and hiccups, especially the first time it happens in the first place it happens, and it'll be smooth for a while and then [there] will probably be hiccups somewhere else because that's just how things work," said Cardy.

Are high school students being 'sacrificed' in this plan?

The return to schools will also look different depending on grade levels.

Kindergarten to Grade 5 students will have smaller class sizes, middle school students will be in "classroom bubbles" and high school students will only have in-class instruction every other day.
Many parents expressed concerns about the high school aspect of the plan, with one parent feeling high school students were being "sacrificed" for the benefit of other grades.

Cardy took issue with the assertion and said a combination of online learning and co-op programs when students aren't in the classroom may actually be beneficial for them.

"What I've heard from teachers over the years is how they've been forced to put all the kids into these very small group of boxes, with lots of mandatory courses and very little flexibility to pursue things that they're actually interested in or want to do with the rest of their life, because they've got to check off these boxes to get into community college or university or even just to graduate," said Cardy.

Who will teach my kid if schools close down, and I work?

One parent who reached out said her kids will be going to an essential services daycare if the virus closes down schools, which means there would be no one to help them learn online.

Cardy said he hopes students will be able to be self-reliant with the technology.

"What we're trying to do is make sure the students are well-prepared to be able to use the technology themselves if we do have to go back into the red," said Cardy.


What protections will there be for janitors?

While the province is still ironing out details, other aspects of the schools will change, including maintenance and janitorial services.

"If you're just doing regular cleaning in low use space, that's one thing.  If you're cleaning up in a room where people have been eating, obviously the standards are going to be higher," said Cardy.

"The government's going to be putting millions of dollars into cleaning supplies extra and above and beyond what we usually expend to make sure that those folks have got the gear that they need to be properly protected."

Will students still take the bus?

Cardy also said buses would run this fall, but they are still trying to figure out exactly how that will work.

"One of the things we've been trying to figure out is, 'Can we reduce loads on the buses and can we make partnerships with municipal transit systems where those exist, given that they're often not heavily used, to try and spread the load across different vehicles so that we minimize the social contact on the buses?'." said Cardy.

With files from Information Morning Fredericton


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David Amos

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Methinks the former NDP leader loves being in the limelight of Higgy's circus N'esy Pas? 






David Amos
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Too Too Funny 






David News
 It certainly seems that no matter what any of the governments try to do, people will complain. At the end of the day, people will complain about
- Their taxes
- Rights and freedoms being trampled on
-To much or not enough being spent
- Poor me I have to change things
Please get over yourselves.
Let them work it out, there will be changes, high school kids by and large are much more able to be educated remotely than 5-7 yr olds.
If enough people don't want that, they can vote that way in the next election but beware, there will be a massive price tag associated with bringing all the kids back to classrooms that will only come from one play. Taxes


David Amos
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Reply to @David News: So you say


David News
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Reply to @David Amos: Yes David I say, but realize that it is only my personal opinion


David Amos
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Reply to @David News: Why does my opinion not count? 
 

David News
Reply to @David Amos: Never suggested it doesn't, it does. I was sharing my perspective with all of the negative comments surrounding the back to school plan that I think is not bad given the current circumstances.
It is far easier to knock something down with no alternatives than it is to provide a reasoned alternative. Just tired of all the negativity personally.


David Amos 
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Reply to @David News: I have a real name and have run for public office 7 times Yet what I posted before you went "Poof" after it was read and liked Go Figure as to why.


James Edward 
Reply to @David News:The kids will be just fine. So will everyone else. Anyone remember H1N1, Zika, Ebola, etc. The media always blows these viruses out of proportion, for a variety of reasons. 
 

David News
Reply to @David Amos: Oh sorry to hear that David I didn't get to see what you wrote, But I do know that feeling all too well. 


David Amos
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Reply to @David News: Thanks for that FYI I already dealt with the malice as per my MO


JoeBrown
Reply to @James Edward: the y blow it out of proportion because you control them, or just because you read the minds of every reporter.


James Edward
Reply to @JoeBrown: All the reporters are own by either governments or by 5 multinational corporations (which also own the governments). They have an overarching narrative to sell to use through the TEL e VISION. There job is to sell division and fear. It makes them money and garners power/control.

Dianne MacPherson 
Reply to @James Edward:
Ebola is NEVER "blown out of proportion" !!!
That virus is a killer !!

JoeBrown
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Reply to @James Edward: Bwa ha ha. You were born under a bad sign, down ever since you could crawl....

James Edward 
Reply to @Dianne MacPherson: It's blown out of proportion as to its global reach. It will never become a global mass killer, it burns out to fast, shows symptoms to easily. Ebola's current form is no reason for anyone to panic, except for people who live in that part of the African jungle.

James Edward: 
Reply to @JoeBrown: Now your talking astrology? That isn't very scientific.

David Amos
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Reply to @JoeBrown: Trust that I was not born under a bad sign







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Judge rules in favour of efforts by Raymond defence to speed up process

June 23, 2020, 2:45 am
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Methinks the lawyers and media should ask Chucky Leblanc the infamous blogger of Fat Fred City many questions as to why he has taken such a great interest in this matter N'esy Pas?



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/matthew-vincent-raymond-fitness-jury-trial-covid-19-1.5622756




Judge rules in favour of efforts by Raymond defence to speed up process


Matthew Raymond can have the same jury for his fitness hearing, trial


Hadeel Ibrahim· CBC News · Posted: Jun 22, 2020 7:26 PM AT



Matthew Raymond was found unfit to stand trial last fall. A new fitness hearing is scheduled for August. (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)

A judge has ruled Matthew Raymond can have one jury to both decide his fitness to stand trial and his guilt or innocence on murder charges.

Raymond is charged with four counts of first-degree murder in the shooting deaths of Fredericton police constables Sara Burns and Robb Costello, and Donnie Robichaud and Bobbie Lee Wright of Fredericton. He was arrested after a shooting on Fredericton's north side in August of 2018.

Justice Fred Ferguson sided with the defence on the one-jury argument. He said it's Raymond's right to keep the same jury for the two trials. However, if Raymond is found fit in August, he can also choose to have a second jury summonsed.

Defence lawyer Nathan Gorham said having one jury will make the transition between a fitness hearing and criminal trial quicker.

The Crown was worried having one jury will be risky, in case too many jurors need to be excused between the fitness hearing in August and the trial in September, resulting in a mistrial.


Nathan Gorham and co-counsel Breana Vandebeek stand outside the Fredericton Convention Centre, where Court of Queens Bench hearings have been held to maintain COVID-19 physical distancing measures. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Speaking to reporters outside the makeshift courtroom at the Fredericton Convention Centre, Gorham said the goal is to get his client to trial as quickly as possible.

"We're asking for one jury, and an abbreviated adjournment process, and more potential jurors to avoid a mistrial," he said. "All three of those applications were there for the purpose of trying to get the trial done and completed as early as possible."

The fitness hearing is tentatively scheduled for Aug. 17 at the Fredericton Convention Centre. Ferguson said this fitness hearing will probably be the first instance of a jury being chosen in the country after the COVID-19 pandemic was declared.

Raymond, 50, has been in custody since his arrest. He was slated for a criminal trial last year, but his behaviour in court and lack of communication with his defence lawyer prompted questions about his fitness to stand trial.
A jury found him unfit in October of 2019 after a three-hour deliberation. Since then, he's been receiving antipsychotic medication. He needs to go through a second fitness hearing before the murder trial could go ahead.

The process has been further delayed by the court shutting down because of COVID-19.

All sides have been meeting again since the courts reopened two months ago. On Monday, the judge made multiple rulings about next steps. Raymond appeared by phone from the Restigouche Hospital Centre where he's been for the past few months.

Other rulings

Ferguson ruled the defence is not allowed to admit to certain elements of the crime, or have an agreed statement of facts, until Raymond is found fit. 

Gorham argued he's spoken to Raymond while he was still fit, and he has the right as his lawyer to make admissions for him.


Defence lawyer Nathan Gorham says he's trying to minimize the time between Matthew Raymond's fitness hearing and his criminal trial, if it does go ahead. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

However, Ferguson said that won't be fair to Raymond. He said because Raymond is still unfit in the eyes of the law, he can't consent or admit to anything.

Ferguson said he will attempt to move up the trial date to earlier than Sept. 28, if Raymond is found fit. 

On Monday the court heard jury summonses will come out in the near future. Selection will take place under strict physical distancing, where potential jurors will be spread out, split into groups and given face shields.

Summonsing enough jurors?

Ferguson also ruled he will summons the exact number of jurors the court could fit in the convention centre, or a bigger venue if found, while still maintaining physical distancing.

Gorham has been attempting to convince the court to summons more people than can be accommodated at once, and bring them in to court in groups. But the law prevents the court from being able to sort jurors remotely, and Ferguson ruled even during a pandemic he does not have the reach or the authority to go against the law.
"I'm not prepared to break the law, it's just that simple," he said. "I believe the law says what it says."

Ferguson said there is an effort underway to update the law, but no progress has been made yet.

"I think it's an oversight, I think it's going to be remedied, but it's not going to be remedied in time" he said. 

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Hadeel Ibrahim
Hadeel Ibrahim is a CBC reporter based in Saint John. She can be reached at hadeel.ibrahim@cbc.ca



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Monday, 22 June 2020
Shooter Matthew Vincent Raymond's lawyer Nathan Gorham is questioned by Blogger!!!

https://youtu.be/z3lyih5Ga14

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Saturday, 4 January 2020
Fredericton Shooter Matthew Vincent Raymond returns to Court Monday at 11:00m!!!!



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Friday, 11 October 2019
Why was lies told of Blogger during the Matthew Vincent Raymond fitness Trial???

https://youtu.be/5YTKvbFCRq0

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 12:47 pm No comments : 

Tuesday, 5 March 2019
Street Buddies of Fredericton Shooter Matthew Vincent Raymond and Mental...

https://youtu.be/yFJ7K8P3KjY

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 12:01 am 1 comment : 

Friday, 8 February 2019
Matthew Vincent Raymond's defence lawyer Gilles Lemieux face Media!!!


 

https://youtu.be/uBSck7tMxOE

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 4:52 pm No comments : 

Tuesday, 11 December 2018
Matthew Vincent Raymond's Lawyer Alison Ménard face the media!!!



There's a publication Ban but I will say that I don't agree with the decision of the Judge...Could be a VERY long process.....Stay tuned....

https://youtu.be/PQe2YYjoFoc
Posted by Charles Leblanc at 5:57 pm No comments : 

Monday, 29 October 2018
Fredericton ALLEGED Shooter Matthew Vincent Raymond questioned by Blogger!!!

https://youtu.be/IBGgnwKL4g8

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 1:07 pm No comments : 

Thursday, 27 September 2018
Fredericton ALLEGED Shooter Matthew Vincent Raymond ONCE AGAIN viewed by Blogger Charles LeBlanc and Bryce Melanson!!!!!

https://youtu.be/AIHhOfj4sx0

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 8:04 pm No comments : 

Monday, 24 September 2018
Fredericton allege shooter Matthew Vincent shows up in Court!!!!! Lawyer chats with media!!!


 
 

https://youtu.be/oTN-y8FEBe8

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 12:43 pm No comments :

Friday, 7 September 2018
PressProgress interviews Blogger about his video of allege Fredericton Shooter Matthew Raymond Vincent!!!

https://youtu.be/GQXj8tyzoiY

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 12:34 pm No comments :

Thursday, 6 September 2018
Blogger talks on Maritime Noon of a Video he made with alleged Fredericton Shooter Matthew Vincent Raymond!!!!!
https://youtu.be/EtbKAnqgauc

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 6:24 pm No comments : 

CBC reporter Catherine Harrop covers Fredericton ALLEGED Shooter Matthew Vincent Raymond Protest!!!!

https://youtu.be/4L1U8-5pFpk

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 12:48 am No comments :

Monday, 3 September 2018
Fredericton ALLEGED Shooter Matthew Vincent Raymond was interviewed by Blogger last year!!!!

I knew I took a picture but couldn't find it. I forgot I interviewed him last year...this video just popped in my monitor this morning.....My description I made of Matthew yesterday morning with Bryce Melanson sure shows in this video -

https://youtu.be/tnr-cXbI9KQ

https://youtu.be/yFJ7K8P3KjY

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 9:00 am No comments :

Sunday, 2 September 2018
Street Buddies of Fredericton Shooter Matthew Vincent Raymond and Mental Illness is debated!!!!

 
https://youtu.be/yFJ7K8P3KjY

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 2:24 pm No comments : 

Saturday, 1 September 2018 
Reflecting on Fredericton alleged Shooter Matthew Vincent Raymond.....

https://youtu.be/LYuMO6fe0cI

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 5:19 pm No comments :




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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 07:45:48 -0300
Subject: Re Your research about tickets in NB and CBC coverup of it Perhaps we should talk ASAP My cell is 506 xxx xxxx
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-tickets-nb-1.5622280

More than $20,000 in COVID-19 fines issued, but few details on violations

Data on provincial tickets is missing information on what alleged
rule-breakers did to warrant a $292.50 fine
Karissa Donkin · CBC News · Posted: Jun 23, 2020 5:00 AM AT

The uneven ticketing raises questions about how the rules are being
applied and whether they're being applied the same way across the
province.

That's one of the reasons researchers Alexander McClelland and Alex
Luscombe started the Policing the Pandemic project. They've been
trying to track and map, in almost real time, how police and other
enforcement officers have been enforcing emergency rules across the
country.

Certain Indigenous communities have seen high amounts of tickets. Then
in cities, we've seen primarily poor and homeless people being
targeted.

    -Alexander McClelland

Both McClelland and Luscombe have researched the criminalization of
HIV in Canada, detailing how Black, Indigenous and poor Canadians are
most likely to be targeted by police. When they started seeing a rise
in new emergency powers across the country, they feared a similar
trend would emerge.

"One of the reasons that we started this project is that the vagueness
and broadness of the rules would mean that it could be applied
disproportionately to certain people in certain populations that are
often targets of police," said McClelland, who is an incoming
assistant professor in the Institute of Criminology and Criminal
Justice at Carleton University.


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Methinks everybody knows about the ticket the RCMP issued at Tims in
Hampton N'esy Pas?


https://www.alexandermcclelland.ca/new-page-1

Alexander McClelland is a sociolegal researcher and Banting
Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of Ottawa in the Department of
Criminology. He is currently examining issues of confidentiality for
research with criminalized people. His work focuses on the
intersections of life, law and disease, where he has developed a range
of collaborative and interdisciplinary writing, academic, activist,
and artistic projects to address issues of criminalization, sexual
autonomy, surveillance, drug liberation, and the construction of
knowledge on HIV.

His doctoral work examined the lives of people who have been
criminally charged and/or prosecuted in relation to not disclosing
their HIV-positive status to sex partners in Canada. His work has been
supported through a range of awards, including the Concordia Public
Scholars program, Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR)
doctoral HIV/AIDS Community-Based Research Award, and the Institute
for Anarchist Studies Grant for Radical Writers. Alexander is a
current steering committee member of AIDS ACTION NOW! and the Canadian
Coalition to Reform HIV Criminalization.

Connect with me on ResearchGate & academica.edu

Contact me at: mcclelland.alex@gmail.com


https://criminology.utoronto.ca/facultyandstaff/graduate-students/alex-luscombe/

Alex Luscombe
PhD Student, 2017
alex.luscombe@mail.utoronto.ca
Tel: 416.946.5298



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-tickets-nb-1.5622280


More than $20,000 in COVID-19 fines issued, but few details on violations

Data on provincial tickets is missing information on what alleged rule-breakers did to warrant a $292.50 fine



Karissa Donkin· CBC News· Posted: Jun 23, 2020 5:00 AM AT



Vehicles in New Brunswick are stopped at the Quebec border in Campbellton as an officer asked all motorists a series of questions to screen for COVID-19. New data shows that ticketing was concentrated near New Brunswick's border with Quebec. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)

Provincial enforcement officers handed out more than $20,000 worth of tickets for alleged violations of the province's Emergency Measures Act between the beginning of April and the end of May.

The data, obtained by CBC News through access to information, includes the date the ticket was issued and the "area of offence," but doesn't provide any information on what the person allegedly did to warrant a ticket with a $292.50 fine.

"The specific reason for violating the emergency order is documented in each ticket but is not collected for statistical analysis," Department of Public Safety spokesperson Coreen Enos wrote in an email. No one from the department was made available for an interview.

The figures show that provincial ticketing has been concentrated near New Brunswick's border with Quebec and in rural communities with small populations. For example, tiny communities like Hoyt, Cornhill and McKees Mills appear on the list of communities where tickets were given out.

Meanwhile, two of the province's three largest cities — Saint John and Moncton — saw only one ticket each during the nearly two-month span. No tickets were given out in three counties clustered in the western part of the province: in York County, where Fredericton is located, as well as Carleton and Victoria counties.

The two most-ticketed communities are both near the border with Quebec. In Saint-Jacques 12 tickets were issued and in the city of Campbellton, ten were issued. The tiny village of St. Martins was the third most-ticketed community, with five tickets all handed out on April 19.

The 70 tickets were all issued by provincial enforcement officers and don't include tickets that have been written by police.

The data indicates that only two of the 70 cases have resulted in convictions, while the rest are listed as "not completed." The province confirmed that means only two of the 70 fines have been paid, for a total of $585 collected by the province.

Research tracks how officers are policing the pandemic

The uneven ticketing raises questions about how the rules are being applied and whether they're being applied the same way across the province.


That's one of the reasons researchers Alexander McClelland and Alex Luscombe started the Policing the Pandemic project. They've been trying to track and map, in almost real time, how police and other enforcement officers have been enforcing emergency rules across the country.
Certain Indigenous communities have seen high amounts of tickets. Then in cities, we've seen primarily poor and homeless people being targeted.
-Alexander McClelland
Both McClelland and Luscombe have researched the criminalization of HIV in Canada, detailing how Black, Indigenous and poor Canadians are most likely to be targeted by police. When they started seeing a rise in new emergency powers across the country, they feared a similar trend would emerge.

"One of the reasons that we started this project is that the vagueness and broadness of the rules would mean that it could be applied disproportionately to certain people in certain populations that are often targets of police," said McClelland, who is an incoming assistant professor in the Institute of Criminology and Criminal Justice at Carleton University.

"Certain Indigenous communities have seen high amounts of tickets. Then in cities, we've seen primarily poor and homeless people being targeted."


Alexander McClelland is one of two researchers who started the Policing the Pandemic project. (Alexander McClelland)

McClelland would like to see the tickets withdrawn across the country, saying that people aren't clear on what recourse they have when they receive a ticket.

Unclear how many tickets issued by police

Most police forces contacted by CBC News would not reveal how many tickets they've handed out, noting that fines are a last resort.


"The New Brunswick RCMP is not releasing the number of tickets that have been issued as issuing tickets is only one part of our enforcement efforts and does not reflect all of the work that is being done collaboratively with communities, our policing partners and the province," New Brunswick RCMP spokesperson Cpl. Jullie Rogers-Marsh wrote in an email.


An example of a $292.50 ticket handed to New Brunswicker Keith Gagnon in April for allegedly not following physical distancing rules. At least one researcher says the tickets should be withdrawn across the country. (Submitted by Keith Gagnon.)

The Saint John Police Force, Fredericton Police Force, Grand Falls Police Force and Bathurst Police Force also refused to say how many tickets they've issued.

"In all cases, from the information received from members, they were blatant cases of disregard for the mandatory order that put the public health safety of others at risk," Bathurst police chief Ernie Boudreau wrote in an email.

BNPP Regional Police Force, which patrols several small communities on the Bay of Chaleur, has not issued any tickets, according to Chief Charles Comeau, while the Woodstock Police Force has only issued one.

McClelland believes it's crucial for police to be open about how they're enforcing emergency rules and who is being ticketed.

"In the context of the pandemic, this is something that has never been tested before," he said.

"We don't know if ticketing people for [not] social distancing or physical distancing actually even works. So I think police need to be transparent about how they've been mobilizing this so that we can kind of hold it to account and measure it and ask questions about it."

About the Author


Karissa Donkin
Karissa Donkin is a journalist in CBC's Atlantic investigative unit. Do you have a story you want us to investigate? Send your tips to NBInvestigates@CBC.ca.


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Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 22:18:45 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Too too funny Indeed Methinks Higgy's Police State is
out of control N'esy Pas?
To: "Anderson-Mason, Andrea Hon. (JAG/JPG)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueNgN0wnoNM

Police CAUGHT ON TAPE: Fine man $292 in Tim Hortons parking lot |
#FightTheFines Case #10
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The story of Walter Matheson getting fined for breaking New
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unbelievable... if we didn't have audio of the entire interaction.
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Fight the Fines case #10 — Police caught on tape giving $292 fine to man in Tim Hortons parking lot


By May 18, 2020


 https://youtu.be/ueNgN0wnoNM



Today, I am going to tell you the absolutely insane story of Walter Matheson. Matheson was finishing his muffin and coffee alone in his car in a New Brunswick Tim Hortons parking lot before he carried on with his day. A pretty normal Canadian thing to do amidst the coronavirus lockdown that has been anything but normal.

Walter was doing the safe thing: eating THEN driving. However, he was given a $300 ticket for violating the province’s coronavirus regulations. Why? The cop who wrote the ticket told Walter his presence might attract teenagers to loiter in the same parking lot!

Solitary retirees eating muffins in parking lots might bring all the youngsters to the streets to spread the coronavirus has to be the one of the silliest things I have heard lately — and I watch those Trudeau daily press conferences from outside his Rideau mansion, so I know silliness.

Even crazier, Walter did try to leave the coffee shop parking lot when the police officer first asked him to. He even joked a little with the cop. However, the police officer prevented Walter from driving away when Walter politely questioned the ridiculous reason he had to leave before he finished his muffin - that he was some sort of strange magnet for high schoolers. Then the officer ticketed Walter for not leaving when he was first directed to!

This whole story is utterly unbelievable. I wouldn’t believe it if someone told me the story without proof. But I know it happened because Walter, very wisely, recorded the entire interaction he had with the cop.

Today, you’ll hear that incredible recording Walter made of his interaction with the ticket-happy cop. You’ll also meet Walter and you’ll hear from how we are helping Walter fight his fine with the help of Toronto lawyer, Sam Goldstein.

You can pitch in to cover Walter’s legal fees and see all the other fines we are helping people fight at FightTheFines.com.






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Subject: Automatic reply: YO Sam Goldstein we just talked Trust that I
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Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 12:59:07 -0300
Subject: While Higgy's Police State is out of control (no doubt the
RCMP will drop the charges against Mr Matheson anyway) Perhaps Sam
Goldstein will take an interest in what going on in his backyard as
well
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Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Sam Goldstein
100 Richmond St W Suite 318,
Toronto, ON M5H 3K6
Phone: (416) 927-1211
Email sam@samgoldstein.ca,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nvb8XFfEes

WANTED: AGENT Margaritaville ~ for exposing Family Court Fraud and
200+ "Superior Court PedoJudges"
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Agent Margaritaville
This is NOT AN ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL

In this "remote from Vic's place," which apparently will be the new
clubhouse of The Children's Army, and future site of the "Pedofaggot
Judges Must Be Exterminated" centre, after Victor Paisley and his
brood are taken away for conspiracy to obstruct justice, by raising
nuisance charges and chasing Margaritaville around Canada with their
SWATWATS and CHINESE-DOGS to suppress an investigation into authority
re: conspiracy and pedophilia of over 200 Superior Court Judges,  as
GUARANTEED by USMCA Chapter 27.5

Now the US Govt will have to investigate Vic and his 200+ "esteemed
jurist pedophile associates."

Apparently Victor doesn't want his "esteemed pedophile judge friends"
to face any justice...... as he may not be invited to any more "masked
balls" at Maple Leaf Gardens.

Victor and Johnny Chan, the suspected Chinese spy, will be addressed
as conspirators to obstruct justice under USMCA 27.5 as the promised
investigation was turned into a MAN HUNT AND COVERUP.... but mostly
Victor knows what he did, and tried to get away with.... and NOW I am
going to expose that little suspected pedophile prick to the end of
his days.

Norm Traversy has begun setting up a "Legal Defence and Frozen
Cocktail" fund for Agent Margaritaville, .... however I am considering
the option of "time well spent" educating the inmates about pedophile
judges on the bench and trading home addresses of judges, cops and
co's for chocolate bars or visits to 12 Vanguard Drive to deliver
messages; while I design a new software system and buff up.

Decisions.....

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Clients"  by the amazing Michael Sherwood (1959 - 2019) and Andy R,
who are career professionals and not sad and pathetic sellouts like
this old man at 80..... "wherever" street in Gotham City.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWRRzprTCP4&t=9s

"You have no absolute rights" (as Pedophiles are) "Colleagues, and
VERY FINE JURISTS!"- The SCOJ
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Enjoy the words of Superior Court Justice Victor Paisley, as he ducks
questions about pedophiles in the court. Listen also, as THE COURT
promises an CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION into justices Ken Hood, Freya
"KrislyCreamAss" Kristjansen, and lawyers who knowingly used Victor as
their little puppy to engage in kidnapping and child trafficking.

THE COURT instead, ran to the "Pakastani ISI and Pedophile controlled
police," and cried that it was 'Intimidated" by questions about
integrity, and pedophilia.

Clearly Victor has tested positive for 🍕!

The cop who is going to try to cover-up this promised criminal
investigation into pedophile judges, is "Johnny Chan," a suspected
Chinese spy, connected wth the massive Chinese infiltration of the
🍕RCMP, and who's people have:
1.  committed genocide in BC against Native Families, while stealing
their land,
2. infiltrated Canada and murder thousands of Canadians, with Corona
Virus and weaponized 5G (Covid -19) emissions,
3. Sent a Trannyboy to tell us we all need to stay home, as the
Chinese protect the pedophiles in the courts while they install 5G
towers.

Johnny Chan was inspired massive: "Canadian Anti Pedophile Judge
Protests," which will gather at the homes of Paisley and Marocco and
ESTEEMED pedophile judges across Canada.

Dates to be announced on this, and other Chanels.

The #COVID19PedophileJudgeProtest will be an opportunity for you to
engage with other Children's Army members, buy t shirts, hats and mugs
and gather evidence on the remaining pedophile judges, (over 200) that
Paisley and Johnny Chan are desperate to protect. Maybe Vic or Freya
will make coffee? (Don't expect any donuts left at Freya's).

Under USMCA, these pedophiles (and Chan's people) will be investigated
to the depth of their digital history, arrested and prosecuted.

Article 27.4: Promoting Integrity among Public Officials

1. To fight corruption in matters that affect trade and investment,
each Party should promote, among other things, integrity, honesty and
responsibility among its public officials. To this end, each Party
shall, in accordance with the fundamental principles of its legal
system, adopt or maintain:
(a) measures to provide adequate procedures for the selection and
training of individuals for public positions considered by the Party
to be especially vulnerable to corruption;
(b) measures to promote transparency in the behaviour of public
officials in the exercise of public functions;
(c) appropriate policies and procedures to identify and manage actual
or potential conflicts of interest of public officials;
(d) measures that require senior public officials, and other public
officials as considered appropriate by the Party, to make declarations
to appropriate authorities regarding, among other things, their
outside activities, employment, investments, assets, and substantial
gifts or benefits from which a conflict of interest may result with
respect to their functions as public officials; and
(e) measures to facilitate reporting by public officials of any facts
concerning offences described in Article 27.3.1, 27.3.2, or 27.3.6
(Measures to Combat Corruption) to appropriate authorities, if those
facts come to their notice in the performance of their functions.
2. Each Party shall adopt or maintain codes or standards of conduct
for the correct, honourable and proper performance of public
functions, and measures providing for disciplinary or other measures,
if warranted, against a public official who violates the codes or
standards established in accordance with this paragraph.
3. Each Party shall, to the extent consistent with the fundamental
principles of its legal system, establish procedures through which a
public official accused of an offence described in Article 27.3.1
(Measures to Combat Corruption) may, as considered appropriate by that
Party, be removed, suspended, or reassigned by the appropriate
authority, bearing in mind respect for the principle of the
presumption of innocence.
4. Each Party shall, in accordance with the fundamental principles of
its legal system and without prejudice to judicial independence, adopt
or maintain measures to strengthen integrity, and to prevent
opportunities for corruption, AMONG MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY in
matters that affect international trade or investment. These measures
may include rules with respect to the conduct of members of the
judiciary.

The Court received numerous evidence covered by this law, and wiped
their asses with it (Freya took 135 rolls of paper!)

With Justice denied: "Should we just post links to where these
pedophiles asleep?”  After all, THEY, like ALL CANADIANS: "Have no
absolute right to justice" according to these pedophile protecting
practitioners of ..... well "listen to 🍕ictor!"

Music: "Curtain Call"& "Club Scene" by the extraordinary Michael
Sherwood (1959 - 2019) who filed an affidavit however these judges,
but they were too busy eating their pizza to read it.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5aaG0ntDus


Victor Paisley's Pizza is COOKED! ~ and The CHILDREN ARMY ROCKS
#NewCanada! #OPOrangecrush
1,354 views
•May 20, 2020
Agent Margaritaville
THIS IS NOT AN ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL

1. The Children's Army is ready to open the doors to more digital
soldiers, so please follow the instructions and join the team if you
wish.

If you wish to support the work of our team, feel free to reach out.

Hats, t shirts and mugs will soon be available for The Children's Army
and Agent Margaritaville; to help fund our teams work and let you show
your "Margaritaville Coolness," and The Children's Army support on
your front with your stated stance against pedophile symbols on our
Prime Ministers Annual Report, and The handy "Check off List" your
favourite Pedofaggot Judge on the back.

Guess who's name will top the list in the comments and the funniest
rhyme about that pedophile judge will win a The Children's Army
T-Shirt.

2. Last week, Victor Paisley was quietly tossed from the pizza plague
that NOW KNOWN as The Superior Court of JustPedophiles, thus saving
many new victims from his plague, but still to face those litigants
who probably were as fucked by him as I was..... and he will. Johnny
Chan made sure of that.

Meanwhile, Johnny Chan and his Chinese Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice
in violations of USMCA 26.7 continues..... with DOGS and SWATWATS
chasing Agent Margaritaville in a nation wide man hunt.

Being chased by a Chinese is like .... well, awaiting for them to kill
us all under the orders of their grand master WHO/MOH 'TrannyTam' ...
"Chinese Women with Penises."

Meanwhile The Superior Court of JustPedophiles, attacks Agent
Margaritaville thinking it will do anything but make our team back up
the videos across 100's of channels, and this FRIDAY, thanks to this
attack, perhaps inspire the great DAVID AMOS to send Victors words to
every single judge of the Superior Court of JustPedophiles, at their
own SCJ email addresses; to see if the court's opinion is the same as
the view count, before Victor's team desperately suppressed it to
cover up his colossal embarrassment at the hands of Johnny "always
gets his man,... except when she pretends to be a woman" Chan.

498 - 5 Victor.

Thats is an ASSSSSS kicking old dude.

No longer a judge dude.

In the crosshairs of justice dude.

Victor.... you are fucking guilty.

Thanks to you Johnny.... the pedophile coverupper for the court, we
know the truth about Victor and why he knew all you needed was a "can
of coke and proximity to children!" - words of experience.

Cocksucker.

Perhaps mailboxes on Victor's street will be receiving USB sticks from
Dolllarama with the video on it, if YouTube cannot broadcast it.
Perhaps we will make a video and show you how to access these
databases and find your own favourite persons information. The servers
all rest on a Cherokee Reservation in the USA ironically, where the
Awan's sadly left their back doors open.

.... anybody seen those Paki assholes lately?

Music: "Frijoles" by the amazing Michael Sherwood (1959 - 2019) and
"The Thrashing" by Michael Sherwood and Andy R.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okuYgcWDltY

Obstruction of Justice by The Superior Court of JustPedophiles and Chinese Cops
887 views
•Premiered 11 hours ago

Agent Margaritaville
This is NOT AN ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL

Further Instruction of Justice under USMCA 27.5 has just been noted as
either scared pedofaggot judges are demanding THE SUPERIOR COURT OF
JUSTICE not be held accountable to laws, or some Chinnese cop took
time from turning on his 5G emitters and murdering children with his
Tranny bosses Corona virus to demand this Chanel be taken down

Unless it is a faggy English cop who I now suspect to be a diddler?

Here is your own copy too Download...

https://gofile.io/d/Oh2mua

They will never get it off the internet Victor....  you criminal and
suspected pedophile.

Music: "Montage" by the amazing Michael Sherwood (1959 - 2019) who
would have laughed at this pedofaggot Paisley.







> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:36 PM, David Amos
> <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/05/gerald-brummell-is-wanted-for-two.html
>>
>> Sunday, 17 May 2020
>>
>> Gerald Brummell is wanted for two counts of Engage in Conduct to
>> Impede Performance of Justice Duties
>>
>> https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
>>
>> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
>> Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
>> Methinks Trudeau The Younger and Doug Ford should have a long talk
>> with Bill Blair and the Toronto cops about Gerald Brummell and our
>> emails N'esy Pas?
>>
>> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/05/gerald-brummell-is-wanted-for-two.html
>>
>> #nbpoli #cdnpoli
>>
>> http://torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/47131
>>
>> Man Wanted,
>> Gerald Brummell, 57,
>> Photograph released
>>
>> On 5/17/20, David Amos david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62B73ZSU4Bo
>> > Out of The Shadows - A Documentary About Pedophiles (Like Judge Robert
>> > Spence of the OCOJ)
>> > 1,967 views
>> > •Premiered Apr 27, 2020
>> > Agent Margaritaville
>> > This is NOT AN ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL
>> > Enjoy this wonderful and controversial documentary about one man's
>> > journey to the knowledge of the horrible ugly darkness which parades
>> > in front of our faces, as Satan's (w)bitches prowl.
>> > We must exterminate this vermin, from our societies, our courts and
>> > our system of authority.
>> > The only acceptable pedophile is a room temperature one and any cop
>> > who stands before a pedophile, and protects them, (whether they be a
>> > Superior Court Judge or Not) needs "two hot ones in the mellon" and a
>> > shovel of dirt over their useless face.
>> > That means you PO'PO in the 6!
>> > Protect the pedos.... and you might as well pull a Mike Eby!
>> > Because we are coming for all you pedophile protectors.... like that
>> > child rapist from 32 Division - Sgt Bishop who can count his final
>> > days, as we will be dragging that pedofaggot to justice one day soon.
>> > Music: "Swifty's Bizarre II" by the extraordinary Michael Sherwood
>> > (1959 - 2019) and Andy R.
>> > On 5/9/20, AgentMargaritaville AgentMargaritaville@protonmail.com
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hey David Amos
>> > > Did you see that members of the Superior Curt of Justice have come to
>> > > us
>> > > in
>> > > an attempt to save them for the pedophile mafia which has run the
>> > > court
>> > > for
>> > > the past 50 years?
>> > > They want us to expose the pedophiles across Canada.
>> > > Would you like to help David?
>> > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>
>
>

---------- Original  message ----------
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Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 01:28:33 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Too too funny Indeed Methinks Higgy's Police
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To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

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Subject: Automatic reply: Too too funny Indeed Methinks Higgy's Police
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Subject: Automatic reply: Too too funny Indeed Methinks Higgy's Police
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---------- Original  message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 22:18:45 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Too too funny Indeed Methinks Higgy's Police State is
out of control N'esy Pas?
To: "Anderson-Mason, Andrea Hon. (JAG/JPG)"
<Andrea.AndersonMason@gnb.ca>, "andrew.scheer"
<andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, "Andy.Fillmore"
<Andy.Fillmore@parl.gc.ca>, "Andrew.Harvey"<andrew.harvey@gnb.ca>,
"Baumberg, Andrew"<Andrew.Baumberg@cas-satj.gc.ca>, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
briangallant10 <briangallant10@gmail.com>, BrianThomasMacdonald
<BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com>, "rob.moore"<rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>,
AgentMargaritaville <AgentMargaritaville@protonmail.com>, pm
<pm@pm.gc.ca>, martine.turcotte@bell.ca, jkee <jkee@google.com>,
Joel.Arseneau.IDLM@assnat.qc.ca, "Holland, Mike (LEG)"
<mike.holland@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "barbara.massey"
<barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "PETER.MACKAY"
<PETER.MACKAY@bakermckenzie.com>, premier <premier@ontario.ca>,
premier <premier@gnb.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, Press
<Press@bankofengland.co.uk>, Office of the Premier
<scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 22:13:09 -0300
Subject: Methinks Higgy's Police State is out of control N'esy Pas?
To:  "robert.gauvin"<robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, "Roger.L.Melanson"
<roger.l.melanson@gnb.ca>, "rick.desaulniers"
<rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca>, "robert.mckee"<robert.mckee@gnb.ca>,
<Kevin.Vickers@gnb.ca>, "Arseneau, Kevin (LEG)"
<kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca>, "kris.austin"<kris.austin@gnb.ca>,
"megan.yamoah"<megan.yamoah@globalnews.ca>, "steve.murphy"
<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, "Ross.Wetmore"<Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, "Robert.
Jones"<Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, "carl.urquhart"<carl.urquhart@gnb.ca>,
"Chuck.Thompson"<Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca>
Cc:  premier <premier@gov.pe.ca>, PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, premier
<premier@gov.nt.ca>, premier <premier@gov.yk.ca>, premier
<premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>, premier <premier@gov.bc.ca>, premier
<premier@gov.nl.ca>, premier <premier@gov.sk.ca>, press
<press@larouchepac.com>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueNgN0wnoNM

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Interesting interview from
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MVI 6643

Filmmaker Chris Harrigan is confronted by the Pain in the Ass Blogger!!!

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David Raymond Amos

Now thats funny Say Hey To Chris and Chucky for me


DAVIDRAYMONDAMOS3.BLOGSPOT.COM

YO Dominic Cardy how can you Conservatives brag of buying Butter Tarts when CBC tells me you dudes have to sell your HQ? Yet you wackos want control of our provincial economy?
YO Dominic Cardy how can you Conservatives brag of buying Butter Tarts when CBC tells me you dudes have to sell your HQ? Yet you wackos want control of our provincial economy?

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BTW I you wish to know a lot about Cardy et al versus me that Chucky or Chris will never tell all you have to do is call 506 434 8433

Chris Harrigan


David Raymond Amos
what would I never tell?
 
 
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Activist Liz Kramer against Bill 11 debate issues with Blogger!!!

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I talked to Him Also did you see it?

Activist Elizabeth Kramer from Saint John TRIES to educate Blogger on Bill 11....

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Green MLAs hit with 'social media storm' following vaccination bill abstentions

Controversial Bill 11 defeated 22-20 after 3 Green MLAs abstain from vote


Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 24, 2020 6:00 AM AT



From left, Green Party MLA Kevin Arseneau, party leader David Coon and MLA Megan Mitton, pictured at the New Brunswick legislature, all abstained from voting on the controversial mandatory vaccination bill. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)


Two Green Party MLAs who chose not to vote on a contentious vaccination bill last week are defending the decision to abstain in the face of what one calls "a social media storm."

Kevin Arseneau and Megan Mitton say they've heard the condemnation from across the political spectrum that they should not have sat out the vote.

But they both say they would do it again.



"I've been thinking a lot over the last few days about if there was a better path to take, but I didn't want to align with anti-vaxxers and I still didn't think this was good policy," says Mitton, the MLA for Memramcook-Tantramar.

"So it was 'hold my nose and vote yes for legislation that I didn't think was good?' I don't think we should do that type of thing either. We should go back and make better policy."

Arseneau, the MLA for Kent North, said he hasn't been swayed by the criticism either. "Even with all the reaction and everything … I'd do it again tomorrow in the House," he said.


Both Kevin Arseneau, pictured, and Megan Mitton said they would still abstain if the vote was held again. (Radio-Canada)


The bill was defeated 22-20. If all three Green MLAs had voted yes, it would have passed.

Green Leader David Coon explained his decision last Thursday, but his two colleagues had not spoken publicly about why they didn't vote either way.

'You hid'

Progressive Conservative Education Minister Dominic Cardy slammed the abstentions last week, saying the Green MLAs were afraid of "extremists in your base. … Legislators are elected to legislate. You hid."

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers called it "a complete abdication of duty by the Green party."

 

Education Minister Dominic Cardy said the goal of the bill was to immunize enough children to create herd immunity so that the small number of children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons would still be protected from an outbreak. (Ed Hunter/CBC)


Even retired NDP leader Elizabeth Weir, who rarely comments on current provincial issues, said on Twitter she was "so disappointed" with the Greens. She never abstained during 14 years as an MLA, she added. "I took my lumps."

There was also scathing criticism from the public on social media and in comments on news coverage.

Mitton and Arseneau reject Cardy's accusation they were responding to anti-vaccination sentiment among Green supporters.

"If I wanted to please them, I would not have come out and said we need to be working on a new, better, improved bill," Arseneau said.

The only other MLA who abstained on the vote was PC Agriculture, Aquaculture and Fisheries Minister Ross Wetmore. He refused to discuss his abstention.

"Where the bill has already been decided upon, I have no further comment," he said in an email to CBC News.
The bill would have eliminated religious and philosophical exemptions to the mandatory vaccination policy requirement for school children. Unvaccinated kids without valid medical reasons would not have been allowed to go to school starting in September 2021.

Mitton and Arseneau, both elected for the first time in 2018, say while they supported the idea of the bill, Cardy didn't have complete data on vaccination rates and couldn't demonstrate such a strict measure was needed now.

"There's a bunch of steps that public health experts say should be taken before you get to an extreme measure like excluding children from accessing education," Mitton said.

"I do think that this is a tool that could be in the toolbox to be used in the event that it is needed. The evidence was not provided that it is needed right now."

Herd-immunity threshold

Cardy's numbers showed about one per cent of the school population is not vaccinated. But he said with a three per cent vaccination failure rate, the numbers were getting close to falling below the 95 per cent coverage rate needed for herd immunity.

That refers to enough vaccinations to allow a population to avoid infections and protect those who can't be immunized for legitimate medical reasons.



If the bill had passed, children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not have been allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021. (Paul Vernon/The Associated Press)


Cardy predicted that with anti-vaccination sentiment and misinformation spreading, a tougher policy was needed.

Arseneau said if the rate falls under the herd-immunity threshold, "then absolutely that is what should set off mandatory vaccination."

But he said it should be a last resort, because children barred from attending public schools won't benefit from learning about how to understand data and how to use the scientific method.

The Greens tried to amend the bill last week to give the chief medical officer of health the power to declare the bill in effect when the rate fell below the threshold. But the amendment was defeated.

Arseneau said while he had planned to vote for the bill originally, "my abstention was an invitation to continue working on getting our vaccination numbers up [and] making good vaccination policy."

It's not anti-vaxx vs. pro-science, says Mitton

Mitton, who said she and her children are all vaccinated, said many public health officials, including British Columbia's chief medical officer Dr. Bonnie Henry, have suggested stricter mandatory vaccination policies are not the way to go.

"This shouldn't have been anti-science, anti-vaxx versus pro-science, pro-vaccine, but that's the way it's been framed," Mitton said. "So I couldn't support the bill as it stood, but I also didn't want to align myself with anti-vaxxers."



Green MLA Megan Mitton pointed to public health experts who say stricter mandatory vaccination may not be the best policy option for immunizing school children. (CBC)


Both MLAs say they've been criticized by supporters of the bill but also by anti-vaccination activists who wanted them to vote against it.

"It has been a bit of a social media storm," Mitton said.

"Some people said [abstaining] was the easy choice," Arseneau said. "Politically this was the worse position we could have ever took, because it's right in the middle of a polarized debate. You have people who feel so strongly about it and so strongly against it."

Mitton and Arseneau both say once they explain the complexity of the issue to their constituents, they understand better why they abstained.



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... even less one with a religious symbol!
 
 

Reply to @Norman Young: I think the first 4 words are plenty.



Jos Allaire
I strongly do believe in science, objective science, that is! But it is hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. And the chaff is the money. It was claimed that there was no problem with agent orange, DDT and glyphosate, to name a few. Oh wait... Now they want to force us to have some stuff injected into our system. Therefore, don't blame some to be overly apprehensive.






Randy McNally
The fact that it was a free vote and they all abstained does not bode well for Coon in my opinion. At least one of them should have voted. Or two of them vote to cancel each others vote would have been the best way to go with exaatly the same result as 3 abstentions.








john smith
 apparently pointing out herd imunity is between 60-80 % not 95 is taboo on this site


Randy McNally
Reply to @john smith: Very Interesting...Anything that goes against "The ministry of truth" usually, as David Amos says...."Goes poof"
 
 
Fred Estey 
Reply to @Randy McNally: Methinks you're referencing your alter ego. N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Lou Bell
These 3 and Wetmore , as well as Northrup should be ashamed of themselves ! They REALLY , REALLY let those down who could not be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems !! ALL should resign immediately !!!!!!!!!!! 


























Joey Joncas
3 /45.
Kevin Arseneau, party leader
David Coon and
MLA Megan Mitton

You guy did good.. you didnt have to vote. An you dont need an explanation...
Making the vaccination obligatory is against the chart of right and. Liberty...

Everyone who Vote against and these 3.
They fight for our rights... thanks


Lou Bell 
Reply to @Joey Joncas: They FAILED the people of NB greatly ! Especially those who ARE UNABLE to be vaccinated and whose immune system is compromised ! They chose the anti vaxxers over those who had no choice ! Very shameful decision ! And Arseneau ? It could have been served on a silver platter and approved by all other MLA's and he would have voted no. His SANB roots are there to the core 
 
 
Randy McNally
Reply to @Lou Bell: I know of people who are immune compromised and were very much against bill 11
 
 
Agata Haueisen 
Reply to @Lou Bell: do you know how many children in NB are immune compromised and can't be vaccinated or do you like Cardy don't care about data before trying to take people's personal rights away?
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to @Agata Haueisen: I believe I saw a figure of around 1300 children ! And the children of anti vaxxers ? Their rights would be taken away BY THEIR PARENTS , who choose not to follow the rules !
 
 
Fred Brewer 
Reply to @Randy McNally: Really? And why is that?
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Randy has no backup ! Social media !
 
 
Debbie Vissers 
Reply to @Joey Joncas: No they did not fight for our rights. They were cowards.
 
 
Fred Brewer  
Reply to @Lou Bell: I should have said to Randy, cue the crickets as I don't think he knows a single immune compromised person and if he did, that person was not against bill 11.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you have a job as you are always harping on here against Francophones. Too much time on your hand.

















https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mandatory-vaccination-bill-defeated-new-brunswick-1.5617496

Mandatory vaccination bill defeated 22-20

Bill sought to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for schoolchildren


Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 18, 2020 1:47 PM AT




Education Minister Dominic Cardy said the goal of the bill was to immunize enough children to create herd immunity so that the small number of children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons would still be protected from an outbreak. (CBC)

Proposed legislation to strengthen mandatory-vaccination rules for schoolchildren in New Brunswick has been defeated in the provincial legislature.

Education Minister Dominic Cardy's bill, to eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions from the requirement for vaccinations, was defeated 22-20 in a free vote among all four parties in the legislature.

The two largest parties split on the issue, with six Progressive Conservative MLAs and 12 Liberals voting against it.

The three People's Alliance MLAs all voted no, while the three Green MLAs abstained.

Whether you like the outcome or don't like the outcome, it is a representation of how true democracy should work.- Kris Austin, People's Alliance leader

"There are people who make decisions based on evidence on both sides of the House," Cardy tweeted after the vote. "And those that don't."

But Alliance Leader Kris Austin said Cardy failed to win over a majority of MLAs because "he brought us incomplete information … to fix a system that nobody says is broken."

He was referring to the fact that data on vaccinations and exemptions from two out of the province's seven school districts still wasn't available as recently as this week, when a committee of MLAs examined the bill.

"Whether you like the outcome or don't like the outcome, it is a representation of how true democracy should work," Austin said of the vote.
Green Party Leader David Coon said he and his two caucus colleagues abstained because, while they support mandatory vaccinations, they think it should be the chief medical officer of health who has the power to eliminate exemptions "based on public health requirements."

Coon tried to amend the bill to that effect Wednesday but his amendment was defeated.

Asked if an eventual COVID-19 vaccine should be mandatory, Coon said, "I'll have to think about that."

About the Author






Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 



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David Amos
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Methinks Cardy cannot deny that my relentless reminding of everyone about his fondness for butter tarts caused a few of his buddies to bail out of his punky boat before it sunk N'esy Pas?


Guy Richard
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Who cares they will get sick, c'est la vie.


David Amos
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Reply to @Guy Richard: So you say











David Amos

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Methinks Cardy did not have enough butters tarts to keep the Green Meanies and a liberal or two on his side N'esy Pas?


michael levesque
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Reply to @David Amos: hey you should run for the Liberals cause you talk like a Liberal you make no sense at all!!!!


David Amos
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Reply to @michael levesque: Clearly you have no clue as to who I am













David Amos
"Cardy said he was disappointed a majority of MLAs "couldn't stand up against the bullying, the harassment, the threats" from anti-vaccination activists."

Yea Right Methinks after he has some more butter tarts I bet that Cardy will dream up some reasons why his buddies did not support his nonsense N'esy Pas?


Jecht Almasy 
Reply to @David Amos: Our charter of Rights protect us against governmental bullying.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Jecht Almasy: that’s why Cardy tried to ram it through with the notwithstanding clause, a sure sign of tyranny


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
I *think* it "telling" that 6 Conservatives voted against Mt Cardy's pet project. I'm guessing they can't stand him either?


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: When Higgy hired him as his Chief of Staff I swear I giggled for weeks and made Cardy crazy with emails about our past encounters. When they decided to send me Butter Tarts with a signed note I almost died laughing and named the stray cat who ate their treats Mr Higgs It was all incredibly funny as Northrup tried to pretend it never happened when I ran against him later that year.


Terry Tibbs  
Reply to @David Amos:
Will you be blogging this?


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Already doing so but its private for now because I am far from done


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: The truly incredible part is the fact that the anti vaxxers knew everything last year and did nothing with it Go Figure


Terry Tibbs  
Reply to @David Amos:
Maybe they were trusting anti-Cardy to take over? They appear to be right, the ONLY reason this failed was Mr Cardy, anyone else would have gotten this passed.



David Amos

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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks the anti vaxxers thought had Cardy beat last year so they made fun of me as well but when the narcissistic clown upped the ante with notwithstanding nonsense the worm turned. However once it was removed I truly thought Cardy was gonna pull it off until the leader of the Green Meanies decided have a hissy fit. There was no way to predict that N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Trust that I can tell Cardy stories all night long but they would go "Poof"

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: CBC introduced us

NDP gets help from democracy expert
CBC News · Posted: Jan 09, 2006 4:23 PM AT

An international expert on democracy has flown all the way from Egypt to help NDP candidate John Carty campaign in Fredericton.

Dominic Cardy is with a group called The National Democratic Institute. Its members include such people as former U.S. President Jimmy Carter. The group's mission is to teach democratic values and spread democracy around the world.

Cardy has taught about democracy in Algeria, Bangladesh, and Cambodia during the past few years. When he heard his friend John Carty was running for office back in his home town of Fredericton, he hopped on a plane.

"It was a strange experience," Cardy said. "One evening I was watching the sun go down over the pyramids, and the next evening watched it go down over Fredericton airport as I came into land."

Cardy is no relation to the NDP candidate. But he loves elections and loves getting people pumped up about democracy.

Carty the candidate is running against federal Indian Affairs Minister Andy Scott, Conservative Pat Lynch, Green candidate Philip Duchastel and independent David Amos. The riding has sent Scott to Ottawa for the last four elections, despite the best efforts of the other parties.

Cardy says he doesn't care how tough the race his – he just wants people to participate in the process. "People have forgotten how incredibly precious these gifts that our ancestors fought for are and were just giving them away. It makes me furious when I talk to people and people just say 'ah there's no point in voting.'"

After election day, Dominic Cardy is flying back home to his wife in Kathmandu, Nepal. He hopes to leave behind a new Member of Parliament for Fredericton, his friend John Carty for the NDP.

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val harris
The problem was the education minister put this bill forward not the health minister. What’s sad is that Cardy thinks he’s above everyone and really he will be a one term pc MLA.


Lou Bell 
Reply to @val harris: Oh , the Liberals are so shallow that they'd sacrifice the health of school kids because of who put the bill forward ! Not for the good it would cause ! Gotcha !!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you wish to forget how many Conservative voted against your precious bill N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
And poor Lou is blind to that fact. I'm *thinking* those 6 Conservatives can't stand him either?






Murray Brown
A sad day for science and for the children. For those not vaccinating... Never ever travel with your children to a foreign country where diseases like polio still exist. One swim in the water and they'll be crippled for life.


Reply to @Murray Brown: no the majority will get vaccines


David Amos
Reply to @Murray Brown: Methinks is time to take a nap and try to get over your bitterness N'esy Pas?

Reply to @Murray Brown: Look up why they no longer give the polio vaccine.



Reply to @Murray Brown: actually before polio vaccine arrived 99.999% of people were unharmed by polio, CDC vital statistics are online for every year in the 1950s and prior
David Amos
Reply to @Murray Brown: Methinks you and your hero Cardy are not having a good day N'esy Pas?











Lou Bell
Leader of the Greens puts himself ahead of the kids.


David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks the boss of the Green Meanies whose name we can't say certainly puts himself ahead of your heroes Cardy and Higgy N'esy Pas?




























Lou Bell
Two of the Greens voted against tne Bill because their leader didn't get his amendment added and he had a lip on ! The other just doesn't understand what common sense really means 


Terry Tibbs
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Just can't get it right can you Lou.
Give the thing another read, and if there are any words you don't understand you should look them up, and learn something.

 
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Lou doesn't read anything


Buddy Best
Reply to @Lou Bell: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt.


David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you?
Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Try looking up the word "Abstain", and add it to your internal dictionary, then you will have 2 words there and they won't be lonely.



























Naomi Forbes
What I still fail to understand is if you are vaccinated then how can you get the disease from an unvaccinated person? It might be a dumb question but does anyone know the answer?


Murray Brown
Reply to @Naomi Forbes: You can't... If you're vaccinated then you don't get the disease that you were vaccinated for... Ever!


Naomi Forbes
Reply to @Murray Brown: .... so why so much animosity shown towards people who aren't vaccinated then if the vaccinated ones are safe forever?


Jeff Leblanc
Reply to @Naomi Forbes: my take is people dont like when a vocal minority thinks they know more than the majority. It comes off as arrogance on their part and they are usually preachy and try and push their beliefs on others. That's why I dont like them. I'm sure others feel the same


Fudder 18
Reply to @Murray Brown: You kind of do, many cases of measles are vaccine derived, and mumps vaccine..fully vaccinated populations, as on ships or university campus, are having outbreaks. Polio, yup, from the vaccine.


James Smythe 
Reply to @Naomi Forbes: This is the burning question. If vaccines are such guaranteed protection, why be scared of those who don't have it? By extension, if masks are such great protection, why are they also scared of people who don't wear them? It's the ultimate hypocrisy.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @James Smythe: Your burning question has been answered at least a hundred times on this site. For you to not know the answer by now is what I call "willful blindness". I won't waste my time explaining it to you once again because tomorrow you will just ask the same question again. When I see this tactic, I realize the reason anti-vaxxers us this tactic so often is because that's all they have. Sad. Truly sad.
James Smythe
Reply to @Fred Brewer: I'm not an "anti-vaxxer", I have all mine. Whether or not someone else gets one is therefore of no concern to me since I'm protected.
Brian Cohen
Reply to @Naomi Forbes:
the problem is for people who for medical reasons CANNOT be vaccinated.
it is for these people that "herd immunity" is required.
that there are also a large number of people including children who're not vaccinated only complicates things and is reason for upsurges in preventable illnesses like measles
Pat McGregor
Reply to @Naomi Forbes:
Newborns and infants who have not yet been fully vaccinated are typically at greatest risk should an outbreak of disease occur. Prevention of outbreaks reduces infant hospitalizations, complications, and deaths.
Vaccines are highly effective in most people, but in a small percentage of people, the vaccine is less effective at eliciting a response that provides good immunity. Those people could potentially be infected and spread disease to a vulnerable person, as can unvaccinated people spread disease.
Thus a robust vaccination program provides a better shield for infants, immunocompromised people, and for those who cannot be vaccinated.


For the benefit of CBC and their equally evil cohorts in Viafoura I will disable this comment myself and post it within my blog instead
David Amos  
Reply to @James Smythe: Methinks mean old people such as Fred don't even understand the term cognitive dissonance They usually just block you if they can' argue you thereby sticking their fat nasty arses in the air while their heads are buried in the bullshit they support N'esy Pas?

























James Edward
On a positive political note, this is the first time I can recall such a varied stance on a topic. Look at the politician who voted for what they thought was right. They didn't tow the party line. Real democracy at work. Rare these days.


Randy McNally
Reply to @James Edward: Such is the beauty of a minority government. The people actually have a voice.


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: Kinda sorta


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @James Edward:
I'm *thinking* the result would have been different if this was brought forward by somebody actually likeable?



























James Edward
Don't worry bill gates will get us all eventually. New world order here we come!


Naomi Forbes
Reply to @James Edward: ...all I can say about Bill Gates besides his love of money is his very creepy smile.


James Edward
Reply to @Naomi Forbes: Windows is always full of viruses...what make him think he can keep them out of people...


David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: BINGO


Randy McNally
Reply to @James Edward: Windows and viruses go hand in hand and it's no mistake. And anti-virus to the rescue!
























James Smythe
Let me go make some popcorn quickly while I watch the hypochondriac class absolutely LOSE their minds :D


Lou Bell
Reply to @James Smythe: Says the " Me Party " member ! Leadership Convention for the party Saturday at Timmies . Tony and Dave are on the ticket !


James Smythe
Reply to @Lou Bell: Looney bin Lou Bell strikes again!


David Amos
Reply to @James Smythe: Pass the popcorn


James Smythe
Reply to @David Amos: David, you take a lot of flak around here I noticed, but I think you have a great sense of humour, and we'd probably get along well.


David Amos 
Reply to @James Smythe: Methinks many of our Forefathers who fought for our rights and freedoms said when the flak was the greatest they knew they were right over the target N'esy Pas?



























Joseph Vacher
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Up Next: NB decides to stop teaching evolution in favor of creationism


David Amos
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Reply to @Joseph Vacher: Bitter?




























Michel Pelletier
now if we only had a law to sue somebody because the refuse to be vaccinated, opinion would cetainly change


James Edward
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: no then you'd have civil war


Jesus Murphy
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: ... because more laws will make the world a better place ... and more cops, too, right? Maybe Bill Gates eugenics agenda is not such a bad thing if it only takes out the dummies who willingly line up for his vaccines.


David Amos
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Methinks even Cardy knows that I would sue the dude that would dare to make such a law N'esy Pas?





























Esteban Burke
Ding Dong the wicked Bill is dead!


David Amos
Reply to @Esteban Burke: lol


David Amos
Reply to @Esteban Burke: However Cardy almost got you and your little dog too 





























Rob Franklin
It's a real shame. Look at what only ONE virus has done to the world today.


David Amos
Reply to @Rob Franklin: Look again


Rob Franklin
Reply to @David Amos: touche


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Rob Franklin: even worse, look at what the absurd over reaction to one virus has done to the world. All the death stats you see are people dying with cOVID as a co morbidity, that doesn’t mean it caused their death. Median age of death “with” cOVID in BC? 86. 86!!!! An iCFR of 0.26% all ages and we wrecked the economy and saw massive spikes in suicides and domestic violence. Wow, shameful.


Lou Bell
Reply to @Esteban Burke: Where are your sources for " massive spikes in suicides and domestic violnce " ?? I saw an article that indicated domestic violence IS DOWN !!!


Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Rob Franklin: still no vaccine for it either


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Lou Bell: weird you ask someone for sources while not providing your own. From MSN: “ “We’ve never seen numbers like this, in such a short period of time,” Dr. Mike deBoisblanc, head of trauma at John Muir Medical Center, told local station ABC7. “I mean, we’ve seen a year’s worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks.” He added that he thinks “it’s time” to end the state shutdown.”

Article headline so you can search for it as urls likely get blocked here “ ‘A Year’s Worth of Suicide Attempts in the Last Four Weeks’: California Doctor Calls for End to Lockdown”


Joseph Vacher 
Reply to @Esteban Burke: thats one guys opinion


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: it’s not an opinion, it’s statistics; sorry you can’t recognize the difference.

Opinion: “I think it’s hotter today than it was yesterday”

Fact: “yesterday was 27C and today is 29C therefore it is hotter today”


Joseph Vacher
Reply to @Esteban Burke: Fact: 1 of 2 of us has a mathematics degree, the other doesn't.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: that’s weird, it auto-corrected “fallacious arguments” to “mathematics” in your post.


James Edward
Reply to @Esteban Burke: burn


Randy McNally
Reply to @Rob Franklin: If you've noticed the virus cannot nor should not take all of the credit for the mess the world is in. It's a scapegoat. The US economy was in deep dodo last fall before this all started.


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: YUP Methinks everybody knew why all the big corporate dudes were quitting and cashing out long before this virus had a name N'esy Pas?


Fudder 18
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Only about 2% away from natural herd immunity now, but with over 99% recovery rate no vaccine needed. Fauci was worried about reaching herd immunity before the vaccine, he lost. Baylor worked for yrs. on a coronavirus vaccine, animals were getting so ill and dying. No worries, these guys are skipping the animal trials. Twilight Zone. 




























Michel Pelletier
this is a sad day. If there was a vaccin against cancer heart disease ect so on , everybody would jump at the vaccin.


David Amos
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Don't bet on it


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: nope  

 
Joseph Vacher
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: the smart people would. the rest we can do without


James Edward 
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: There already a vaccine for those it's called eating healthy, exercise, laughter, and a loving family. For most people it's lifestyle choices that lead to deceases. And of course there still would be some that would get heart decease and cancer, but not to the level we currently see. Also no money to be made on healthy people.


fred cooper
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: How are you SO SURE that the ingredients in vaccines don't cause cancer? If you look at a the vaccine excipient list you may be surprised...


Buddy Best
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Wrong!!! There will always be those who do not trust government and for good reason. They are not to be trusted!!!! remember 911 and B d S 




























Jane Sherrard
The unvaccinated children do not deserve to have society believe they are infectious beasts. Most adults aren’t vaccinated and where are all those scary diseases? Ask your government how many of the recent whooping cough and measles cases in NB were vaccinated. If main stream media could get an honest answer, they may begin to see a bigger picture - but it would mean using critical thinking skills. What are the odds of that?


David Amos
Reply to @Jane Sherrard: Well put


Michel Pelletier
Reply to @Jane Sherrard: you are ill inform, children who get sick from whooping get it because the vaccin has lost it's potency


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: that is wholly incorrect, the vaccine doesn’t prevent infection or transmission, it lessens the severity of the spasms. Whooping cough outbreaks occur regardless of vaccine coverage rates and are cyclical, most cases occur from vaccinated asymptomatic individuals coughing.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: no that’s actually how science says the vaccine works.


Joseph Vacher
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/publications/healthy-living/2016-vaccine-uptake-canadian-adults-survey.html


Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Jane Sherrard: most adults ARE vaccinated. 91 percent in fact as per HealthCanada.ca. Go look it up if you don't believe me.


fred cooper 
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Actually it says only 10% of adults over 18 received a pertussis booster. So no... most adults are not vaccinated.


Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @fred cooper: keep reading


Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @fred cooper: the fact I need to point out a booster and vaccination are not one in the same tells me there's no point in trying to explain anything further to you. Good day.


Buddy Best
Reply to @Jane Sherrard: Agent orange will not harm you.....right away.


Esteban Burke 
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: if you’re immune you don’t need a booster therefore with only 6% of adults up to date on their vaccinations, how about going after that ahe group instead of the one with only 1% filing NMEs and that doesn’t even mean it’s against all vaccines. The lack of logic in the Minister’s Bill is astounding.
Randy McNally
Reply to @Jane Sherrard: Yes but you probably should have said "fully vaccinated" And yes many say the measles outbreak in KV last year was from vaccine "shedding" but the ptb will not comment. So only those effected can tell us.
Randy McNally
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Why should she look it up when it's obvious that you did not or you would no that it's not true. It's probably true that the majority of adults probably believe they are fully vaccinated but that's about it.



























Dianne MacPherson
SHAME on the Green Party for sitting on the fence !!!

 
David Amos
Reply to @Dianne MacPherson: Welcome back to the circus


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Dianne MacPherson:
I *think* democracy was served. They recommended a change, they were refused, they voted accordingly.


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I disagree Methinks I had a lot do with my teasing Cardy and his buddies about them sending me butter tarts before the last election that caused me to run in a provincial election for the first time since 2006. Then the is all the people I was talking to on the phone about butter tarts etc for the past couple of years. Trust that Cardy knows that yesterday his pal Chucky Leblanc and his pals figured out I was a serious as a heart attack about it and even he got upset His videos and their Facebook proved it yesterday but I suspect that everything will soon go "Poof" as usual N'esy Pas?



























Justin Gunther
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Can we have the most recent information please? I understand this is a representative democracy and we trust our representatives to make our decisions for us.

But can we have it anyway?

Can we also get some other opinion's on Senior Health Professional Dr. Dominic Cardy's assessment that 95% is required for herd immunity?


David Amos
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks many would agree that you are flogging a dead horse N'esy Pas?


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @David Amos: So let it burn, just because?


David Amos
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks its because even the boss of the Green Meanies would agree that we get the governments we deserve N'esy Pas?


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @David Amos: What we have is a government that only works properly when its citizens hold it accountable. That's what I've been taught, at least.

But I think I understand where you're coming from.


Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: How's the " Me Party " of 5 doing ? Leadership Convention planned ? Table for 5 at Timmies !!!


David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: I am no party of any politcal party and I don't go to Timmies because the RCMP enjoy harassing folks there


Lou Bell
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Reply to @Lou Bell: The Trump / Pence wannabes ticket - Dave and Tony !


David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: You and the RCMP know that I don' know your buddy "Tony"




























Ed Smith
So the MLAs who voted against this would rather support the parents who want to be able send their unvaccinated kids to school and endanger kids who can't get vaccinated?

Sad day for science. I really thought our MLAs were a bit more intelligent than this. Why are we bothering to waste all this money on universities. Let's just go back to how they did things in the Middle Ages and base policy on the noisy crowd. They'll be after witches next.


David Amos
Reply to @Ed Smith: I am kinda fond of certain witches so trust that i would come to their defence

 
Esteban Burke
Reply to @Ed Smith: science includes mathematics, you have no idea what reasons those 1% of people have for filing NMEs and it could be for a single vaccine. I hope you welcome being judged someday yourself, more and more it’s sadly becoming the Canadian way.

 
Esteban Burke
Reply to @Ed Smith: Middle Ages? Let’s look at CDC data shall we? CDC is Health Canada’s chief research partner by the way and most of the science on our vaccine schedule comes from them.

Deaths per 100,000; measles

1904 - 11.0
1920 - 8.8
1962 - 0.2

A 99%+ reduction in deaths in just 58 years. Vaccine for measles first arrived in? 1963! All that reduction without vaccines. Instead of going back to the Middle Ages, how about we take each VPD and examine whether it follows the pattern seen with measles or not in the 50 years prior to each disease’s vaccine arriving. Or are you scared to see what the science actually says?


Michel Pelletier
Reply to @Esteban Burke: you nailed it


Ed Smith
Reply to @Esteban Burke: Sure. I'll ignore the fact that the World Health Organization, every major medical organization, the health departments of practically every country, province, and state in the world all support immunization of children. And I'll assume that you know better.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Ed Smith: they don’t support compulsory vaccination without informed consent but if straw man fallacies are all you’ve got...


fred cooper
Reply to @Ed Smith: There has never been a documented case of an unvaccinated child giving a disease (that they don't have) to an immuno-compromised child. There is however, cases of vaccinated children giving other vaccinated children the disease that they are immunized against. There is also a phenomena called vaccine shedding, you should look that up, before you blame the unvaxxed child.


John Grail
Reply to @Ed Smith: Saying "science" over and over again proves nothing


Randy McNally 
Reply to @Ed Smith: It's a sad day for science when DC is a spokesman for it. And where did you ever get the idea that politicians are intelligent? Ambitious - yes. Attention seekers -check. but intelligent - no more than any other segment of society and in some cases far less.




























Dan Boulin
The very last sentence in this article:
“Asked if an eventual COVID-19 vaccine should be mandatory, Coon said, "I'll have to think about that."
- And what exactly do you need to think about, I ask?


David Amos
Reply to @Dan Boulin: the next election


Dan Boulin
Reply to @David Amos: Precisely


































ANNE MILLAR
Where are the rights and freedoms of those people who are unable for medical reasons to be vaccinated? Who will protect them from communicable diseases which are very dangerous for them. And in response to another comment, for those who cannot for medical reasons be vaccinated, yes one person with the disease is scary. Whatever happened to the belief in the greater good for our community.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @ANNE MILLAR: Perspective is everything sometimes.


Jan Toffe
Reply to @ANNE MILLAR: Anne You are falling for Minister Cardy's nonsense. Whether a few more kids are vaccinated or not is not going to help those the immuno-compromised.
The fact is we will always have flu's, and colds around, that they must avoid. We will always have whooping cough outbreaks because that is a failing vaccine, we will always get small measles outbreaks, these vaccines are not perfect so the immuno-compromised have to be careful anyways or stay home.
Raising the vaccination level 2 points will not help them. Anyways most parents against this Bill 11 are not against all vaccines, they just do not want to get them all, there are so many now. Sure get you measles vaccine, but do I really need all these new ones, some of dubious benefit and risk?


David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks your buddy Cardy just learned that the hard way N'esy Pas?






























Justin Gunther
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The vaxxers don't even know why they're mad.


David Amos
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks you should think again N'esy Pas?


 

























Michael Henheffer
So one of the big arguments I have seen for the side against this is that it was the government overstepping its bounds in telling people what to do and taking away freedoms. Can any of them explain to me how this is different than having to have a license to drive or having to have a seatbelt on? To use government funded roads, I have to follow their rules on seatbelts, cars, traffic laws, insurance, etc. How is that not overstepping bounds if this bill was?


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Michael Henheffer: It's because enough people are already getting the vaccines to reach herd immunity. Therefore, it's an UNnecessary power grab based on all available information.


Bob Smith
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Reply to @Michael Henheffer: You can't figure it out? Really? Injection is not learning to drive.


Bob Smith
Reply to @Justin Gunther: If herd immunity already existed, this would have never been brought up. I find your argument about "power grab" lacks any merit and evidence.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Bob Smith: I don't know what to tell you other than research the issue at hand. There are other news stories out there with relevant data. Have a nice day Bob.


Bob Smith
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Other news stories...like links to anti vaccine sites? I know what vaccines protect people against and the horrors the diseases can produce. I don't base my knowledge on invalid claims and histrionics.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Bob Smith: Oh I think there's some on the global platform, definitely others here at the CBC. Probably CTV as well. I don't think I have ever visited an "anti-vaccine" site per se.


Jan Toffe
Reply to @Michael Henheffer: Seat belts and traffic laws are a terrible example. They dont have serious risk like V.


David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: I repeat our children are not cattle


Michel Pelletier
Reply to @David Amos: and yet we immunize cattle


David Amos
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Cattle are property People are not


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Michael Henheffer: seat belts cannot cause encephalitis just by virtue of being correctly buckled, vaccines can even when being correctly administered. I’m glad you asked and I hope this clears it up for you.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Bob Smith: erm, they already admitted herd immunity existed in the hearings, were you not watching? Cardy said this was a preventative measure.


Jesus Murphy
Reply to @Michael Henheffer: ... it isn't different. I am against all that BS ... and so are more and more people everyday. #Voluntaryism


David Amos
Reply to @Esteban Burke: Trust that I know far more about encephalitis than you and your hero Cardy do




























Matt Smith
Put it to a referendum.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Matt Smith: Why? So the UNinformed public can make the wrong decision? Do you understand the significance of the vote going this way even with the full push of the state broadcaster behind it?

Do you understand how the bill is completely UNnecessary?


David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Do you understand what happened?


Randy McNally
Reply to @Matt Smith: We have a representative parliamentary democracy so why do we need a referendum




























Justin Gunther
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Let's make a deal with the Minister:

You actually teach the kids how to read, and we'll reconsider your bill based on available information the next time this finds its way into the news cycle.

Thank you for doing the minimum.


Bob Smith
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: I'll make you a deal. When the Covid vaccine comes out for society, I expect you to get your shot as a responsible member of society. If not, stay home and out of society. Thank you for that choice you should make.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Bob Smith: Have a nice day Bob.


David Amos
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Reply to @Bob Smith: Good luck trying to make me take a shot





























Justin Gunther
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Regardless of your opinion on vaccines, this bill was an unjustified overreach based on available information.


David Amos
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: You seem confused


Michel Pelletier
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Reply to @David Amos: no you are


David Amos
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Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Dream on





























Phoenix Muranetz
Until there are proper studies done on the safety and effectiveness without interference from said pharmaceutical companies themselves - this Victory is an example of when people continue to stand by the rights of freedom.


Bob Smith
Reply to @Phoenix Muranetz: Remember this when the Covid vaccine comes out. You're free to stay home, out of society...


David Amos
Reply to @Bob Smith: Who are are you to suggest such things?


Randy McNally
Reply to @Bob Smith: Do we really have any reason to believe that there will be a COVID vaccine.





























George Smith
CBC you need to read your own News. This story has been decided. When that happens the out of date story shouldn't appear on the same page as the current up to date one that clarifies the situation. Simple to do. Why isn't it done?


David Amos
Reply to @George Smith: Go Figure


Rob Mason
Reply to @David Amos: Dennis is that you?


David Amos
Reply to @Rob Mason: I am exactly who i say i am More importantly do I know you?
































Chris Merriam
The voting public will remember what happened today.....laughing stock of the country.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Chris Merriam: I don't think you actually understand the facts at hand.


David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Do you?































Bonnie Cox
I hope for the sake of the NAY sayers... they are not in my riding... TERRIBLE decision... let US vote on it...


David Amos
Reply to @Bonnie Cox: Why?




























Justin Gunther
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I don't understand. Based on prior reporting by our state broadcaster it sounded like a foregone conclusion the vote would go strongly the other way? But thank YOU Minister Cardy for having YOUR voice once again heard on the state broadcaster, acting like everyone who voted nay is your intellectual inferior.

We all appreciate everything YOU'RE doing, since this is apparently YOUR show.


Bonnie Cox
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: on this topic they ARE his intellectual inferior... damn petri dishes going to school with the children of responsible parents..


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Bonnie Cox: I don't think you actually understand the relevant facts. I think you know what Dominic Card has told you. Have a nice day.


David Amos
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Reply to @Bonnie Cox: Wow are you related to Cardy?


Terry Tibbs
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: He's not acting...he proceeds as if he believes most people are his inferior. And that is why He never wins. And That is what he doesn't get. He never says for example; "I think" or "I believe' or "in my opinion" - He just spouts off as if he knows


Terry Tibbs
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Reply to @David Amos: Mother/ girlfriend? shrink?




























Jeff LeBlanc
Well that's democracy for you.


David Amos
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Kinda Sorta


Randy McNally
Reply to @David Amos: Like our silver tongued former pseudo - potus, GW Bush once proclaimed " This sure would be a lot easier if it was a dictatorship" Or something like that


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: A far wiser old Yankee PT Barnum used to proclaim "People want to see a circus so you give them a circus"

Methinks Higgy et al trust that I am enjoying playing my part in the ongoing circuses in Fat Fred City and Ottawa since I first ran for a seat in the 38th Parliament N'esy Pas?































David News
Sad day for the health and welfare of the kids. Remember this next time there is a breakout of measles and schools close and the government has to spend $ on health care that would not have been required.


Randy McNally
Reply to @David News: I thought pseudonyms were not allowed here.


Kat Burd
Reply to @Randy McNally: There is an impassible gulf between the rules and the reality here.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Kat Burd: Careful Randy you can get banned for that.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @David News: Yes we're all terrified of the one person Measles outbreaks we've seen recently. Absolutely horrifying.


David News
Reply to @Justin Gunther: ah hmmmm


Jan Toffe
Reply to @David News: This is a fantastic day, parents can now decide for themselves how many vaccines their kids need instead of lobbyist controlled governments. There are to many Vacc now. Note that over 40% of our kids now have at least one chronic health condition, how much does dozens of injections have to do with this??


David Amos
Reply to @Kat Burd: and that is really your name


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: Thats a myth


Brahbra Concord
Reply to @David Amos: Stop trying to find peoples facebook account. It's getting creepy


David Amos
Reply to @Brahbra Concord: Methinks I already I told ya that I don't do Facebook However i do recall you suggesting that I find yours because you don't do Twitter like Higgy and I do N'esy Pas?


David News
Reply to @Jan Toffe: Jan, are these the same parents that decided it was not worth the money to get internet installed in their homes so that the kids could participate in the E Learning that was happening through out covid19?


Brahbra Concord
Reply to @David Amos: I never suggested you try to find me online. I have never even said the word twitter on this forum before. I find it unsettling that you think I did. Please stop being so creepy towards me


David Amos
Reply to @Brahbra Concord: Methinks everybody knows where to go to verify what you did state N'esy Pas?


Rob Mason
Reply to @Randy McNally: Reply to @David News: I thought pseudonyms were not allowed here. Says the guy using the name of a book of maps!


Jan Toffe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Horrifying? Why? No one died. But we have 1000's of fentylal overdoses, 2500 car crash deaths a year in Canada. many deaths from snow mobiling, boating, drowning etc. We dont ban cars.
Any ways I am not against the measles vaccine, I think we should all get it, but I am very much against Bill 11. It is just the first step to forced vaccination for all including you. They they just keep adding more and more vaccines to the list, there is another 100 in the pipe line right now. When is there too many?


Randy McNally
Reply to @Rob Mason: Alas... I was much too young and to weak to argue thus, it's been my handle since the beginning. Just call me map guy.





























Mack Leigh
Wow, looks like David Coon and his MLA's have sitting on the fence down to a science......... Absolutely pathetic.


David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Naw they were just playing politics for their benefit



Sue Powell
Reply to @Mack Leigh:


Sue Powell
Reply to @Sue Powell: what you call science is big pharma sponsored studies to continue making big profits. Do your own research. Independent anti-vaccines studies are never in mainstream media. Ever wondered why? Censorship.
John Grail
Reply to @Mack Leigh: They tried to propose alternative amendments and options. Why vote on a bill that means nothing and would get challenged (and likely lose) as a charter violation





























Randy McNally
They may not know it but this is a victory for the people, the constitution, and the charter of rights and freedoms. And this is why minority govt's are good for the people


Bob Smith
Reply to @Randy McNally: ...and if science and common sense had won the vote, you would have argued against minority gov't bills. I know how folks spin things...


Randy McNally
Reply to @Bob Smith: This bill had nothing to do with science


Randy McNally
Reply to @Randy McNally: Where's the double blind studies? Where's the control groups, the placebo groups , the trials? When it comes to Vaccines the public are the guinea pigs


G Rex
Reply to @Randy McNally: I tend to agree with you. Minority rights are a very important part of a "democracy". That being said, I also suspect (hope?) that there will be such a small number who exercise their right to opt out that it will have minimal effect on those who have to opt out for medical reasons. Of course it will have no effect on those who opt for the vaccine.


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir





























Bob Smith
The anti science crowd wins the day :(


Jos Allaire
Reply to @Bob Smith: And the money loses for once.


David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Mais Oui


Buddy Best
Reply to @Bob Smith: Even in a communist country you have choices. No so much here. Mandatory? Tax on red book value not purchase price!!!!!


Jan Toffe
Reply to @Bob Smith: In your opinion. Now start looking at the science yourself, the truth is somewhere in the middle, as usual.


John Grail
Reply to @Bob Smith: The pro-Charter freedoms on the Day.


John Grail
Reply to @John Grail: *won


 
























John Smith
Another win for anti-science. So much for my thoughts that the Greens might be better.


Dan Armitage
Reply to @John Smith: rights and anti science don't play together. Your more than welcomed to go get a shot but you sure as ???? aren't entitled to tell me what I have to do


David Amos
Reply to @Dan Armitage: I agree


Buddy Best
Reply to @John Smith: What next? Mandatory chip inserts? democratic and free? Not here if these laws keep forcing compliance on personal choice. It died this time but what does the future bring?


John Grail
Reply to @John Smith: All to authoritarian vaxxers have is ad hominem attacks and poisoning the well.


























Corrie Weatherfield aka BruceJack Speculator
not impressed with anyone's action


Randy McNally
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Or lack thereof?


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: Good question
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Provincial border bans during COVID-19 spark lawsuits, anger from Canadians denied entry

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Methinks it would be interesting to see Geoff Budden and Cara Zwibel explain why Kim Taylor got to go to the Rock after I posted a few comments and made a few phone calls N'esy Pas?



https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/provincial-border-bans-during-covid-19.html







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Provincial border bans during COVID-19 spark lawsuits, anger from Canadians denied entry

Provinces say travel restrictions remain necessary to avoid spreading coronavirus



Sophia Harris· CBC News· Posted: Jun 06, 2020 4:00 AM ET




Peace officers stationed at New Brunswick land border crossings are authorized to turn away visitors who don't have permission to enter. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

Lesley Shannon of Vancouver was devastated when New Brunswick rejected her request last month to enter the province to attend her mother's burial.

"I'm mystified, heartbroken and angry," said Shannon on Wednesday. "They're basically saying my mother's life has no value."

Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, New Brunswick, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Island and the three territories have temporarily barred Canadian visitors from entering their borders unless they meet specific criteria, such as travelling for medical treatment.


The provinces and territories say the extreme measures are necessary to protect their residents from the spread of the novel coronavirus that causes the COVID-19 illness.

But the border bans have fuelled criticism from civil rights advocates who argue barring fellow Canadians is unconstitutional. The travel restrictions have also angered Canadians denied entry for travel they believe is crucial.

"I'm not trying to go to my aunt's or cousin's funeral. This is my mother, my last living parent," said Shannon, who grew up in Rothesay, N.B.


Lesley Shannon of Vancouver, right, pictured with her late mother, Lorraine, was infuriated when New Brunswick rejected her request last month to enter the province to attend her mother's burial. (Submitted by Lesley Shannon)

Protecting health of its citizens

On Thursday, shortly after CBC News asked for comment on Shannon's case, the New Brunswick government announced it will reopen its borders starting June 19 to Canadian travellers with immediate family or property in New Brunswick. It also plans to grant entry to people attending a close family member's funeral or burial.

The province's Campbellton region, however, remains off limits.

Shannon was happy to hear the news, but is unsure at this point if she'll get permission to enter the province in time for her mother's burial. She would first have to self-isolate for 14 days upon arrival, as required by the province, and the cemetery holding her mother's body told her the burial must happen soon.


"I'm just hoping that [permission comes] fast enough for me."
New Brunswick told CBC News that restricting out-of-province visitors has served as a key way to protect the health of its citizens.

"It's necessary because of the threat posed by travel: all but a handful of New Brunswick's [COVID-19] cases are travel cases," said Shawn Berry, spokesperson for the Department of Public Safety, in an email.

Legal challenges

Kim Taylor of Halifax was so upset over being denied entry in early May to attend her mother's funeral in Newfoundland and Labrador she launched a lawsuit against the province.

"I certainly feel like the government has let me and my family down," she said.

Shortly after speaking publicly about her case, Taylor got permission to enter the province —11 days after initially being rejected. But the court challenge is still going ahead — on principle.



"It's not right. No province in Canada can shut its borders to Canadian citizens,"alleged Taylor's lawyer, John Drover.


Kim Taylor said Newfoundland and Labrador's decision to deny her entry into the province following her mother's death exacerbated her grief. (CBC)

Violates charter, CCLA says

The Canadian Civil Liberties Association (CCLA) has joined the lawsuit and has sent letters to each of the provinces and territories banning Canadian visitors, outlining its concerns.

The CCLA argues provinces and territories barring Canadians violates the country's Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which states that every Canadian has the right to live and work in any province.

The CCLA said if a province or territory limits those rights, its reasons must be justified.

"So far, what we've seen from these governments hasn't convinced us that there is good evidence that these limits are reasonable," said Cara Zwibel, director of CCLA's fundamental freedoms program.

"The existence of a virus in and of itself is not enough of a reason."


Cara Zwibel is director of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association's fundamental freedoms program. The CCLA argues provinces and territories barring Canadians violates the country's Charter of Rights and Freedoms. (Submitted by the Canadian Civil Liberties Association)

Newfoundland and Labrador also faces a proposed class-action lawsuit launched this month, representing Canadians denied entry who own property in the province.

"The issue that our clients take is that this [restriction] is explicitly on geographic grounds and that seems to be contrary to the Charter of Rights," said Geoff Budden, a lawyer with the suit, which has not yet been certified.

The Newfoundland and Labrador government told CBC News it's reviewing the lawsuits. They have both been filed in the province's Supreme Court.

On Wednesday, Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Dwight Ball defended the province's travel restrictions, arguing they remain necessary to avoid spreading the virus.

"This is put in place to protect Newfoundlanders and Labradorians; it's not about shutting people out," he said.

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What about a 14-day isolation?

The rest of Canada's provinces have each advised against non-essential travel for now but are still allowing Canadian visitors to enter their province. Nova Scotia and Manitoba, however, require that visitors self-isolate for 14 days. CCLA's Zwibel said that rule may be a less restrictive way for a province to protect its residents during the pandemic.

"The Charter of Rights does require that if governments do place limits on rights, they do so in a way that impairs them as little as possible," she said.
Back in Vancouver, a frustrated Shannon points out that New Brunswick is already allowing temporary foreign workers into the province— as long as they self-isolate for 14 days. However, her invitation is still pending.

"It's very upsetting to think I'm less welcome in New Brunswick than somebody who was not even born in Canada," she said.

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David Amos
Methinks the Crown should advise the lawyers Geoff Budden and Cara Zwibel that I am still alive and paying attention They all know I am capable of filing my own lawsuits N'esy Pas?







David Amos
Methinks Sophia Harris should dig up the copies of two lawsuits I sent her on July 16th 2002 N'esy Pas? 



























Richard Sharp
The Trudeau Libs are rightly allowing the premiers to manage their provinces' opening up, and the outcomes are different. There will always be anecdotal evidence of screw-ups. One will do.


David Amos 

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Reply to @Richard Sharp: Methinks you know as well as I who caused these so called "screw-ups" in the first place N'esy Pas? 
 


























Richard Sharp
Going into Covid-19, Trudeau was hated by two thirds of the premiers in the country. As in public personal attacks by all of them.

Not now.


Ron Kennedy
Reply to @Richard Sharp:
Whats it up to now .. 9 tenths?
  
Richard Sharp
Reply to @Ron Kennedy:
The opposite. Trudeau, Freeland and others have earned a lot of respect from their provincial partners in these challenging times.


Fred Dee
Reply to @Richard Sharp: by giving $$$$$$$$. Justin is great at giving out money that we do not have daily!!!! At least talk about it,,,,, follow through is not so great. but of course, that is nothing new!!


David Amos
Reply to @Richard Sharp: So You say


David Amos
Reply to @Ron Kennedy: Methinks you were low balling your guess in order to raise the ire of Sharpy N;esy Pas? 


























 

Richard Sharp
Mobility rights are a constitutional thing. In Europe, a game changer.

Here? We should absolutely be allowed to go to our summer homes, anywhere. We are adult enough to bring our own supplies, to self-isolate and to return to our cities if we get any symptoms of the virus.


Brad Arvisais 
Reply to @Richard Sharp: Some people are adult enough, not everyone though.


David Sampson 
Reply to @Richard Sharp:
You may be adult enough Richard but judging from the huge numbers who invaded Cottage country north of Toronto, against restrictions, and swarmed small country stores, it would seem you are in the minority hence the restrictions!


Fred Dee
Reply to @Brad Arvisais: agreed!!! again, DR in NB, snow birds in Quebec and people given permission to cross to work being caught shopping at Walmart in Northern NB!!! People want what they want and do not care about rules and others health!! It is all about ME!!!!


Lieschen Mueller
Reply to @Richard Sharp: Unfortunately, far far many are not adult enough. Look at how people are acting, gathering en masse in groups, not wearing masks, look at that New Brunswick physician and you know why these restrictions are in place are required.


David Amos
Reply to @Lieschen Mueller: Methinks the doctor you refer to had every right to go get his kid and lots of folks agree with me N'esy Pas?
 

Denise Goodkey
Reply to @David Amos: Sure but he needed to self-isolate upon return.


























Jenetta Hassett
Fake scamplandemic! I totally agree with the Canadian Civil Liberties Association and I'm glad there will be lawsuits. Canadians no matter where they live in Canada have fundamental rights to attend the funeral and burial of their loved ones. No government at any level has the right to sanction that.


Fred Dee
Reply to @Jenetta Hassett: yet in NFLD, one person caused a large outbreak attending a funeral!!! Going to a funeral could cause other funerals!!! So, if a person wishes to go to one, they should agree that they will cover ALL expenses of any infections they could cause, and any damages!!! Could be millions!!!!!



David Amos
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Reply to @Fred Dee: Methinks it would be interesting to see a few lawyers explain why Kim Taylor got to go to the Rock after I posted a few comments and made a few phone calls N'esy Pas? 
 

























Richard Sharp
Canadians have suffered because of provincial jurisdiction over health care during this pandemic. That is so obvious. One can argue the federal government is scrimping on health care but that's provincial jurisdiction. Square the circle.


David Amos 
Reply to @Richard Sharp: Who oversees the RCMP???

























Ewa Adams
Breach of mobility rights under the Charter..


Denny O'Brien 
Reply to @Ewa Adams: you rights stop when you put others in danger


John Foley 
Reply to @Ewa Adams: Should these rights also be applied to cases where people are taken into custody, tried, convicted and sentenced to incarceration for a crime? My point is, there are circumstances where mobility rights are trumped by the need for public safety.


Ewa Adams 
Reply to @Denny O'Brien: Whether the circumstances will meet the legal treshold of 'danger' is to be seen :-)


Ewa Adams  
Reply to @John Foley: And point is in my other answer...we will see :-)


David Amos
Reply to @Ewa Adams: "Breach of mobility rights under the Charter"

YUP



























Ron Kennedy
Quebec should hold another referendum.


David Amos 
Reply to @Ron Kennedy: I concur


























Richard Sharp
Reposting: My Phd niece living in Boston has accepted a teaching job at Carleton U. She has 2 kids and a Phd husband, who unfortunately is American. He can't cross the border to move here with his family. How crazy is that?


Fred Dee
Reply to @Richard Sharp: not crazy at all. So he will have to delay joining them a bit. Same going to the US!! Citizens allowed, others not unless needed!!


David Amos 
Reply to @Richard Sharp: Cry me a river Methinks you know as well as I that I have not been with my Clan for 15 years because of the actions of your political heroes against me N'esy Pas?




http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/02/here-is-one-hell-of-email-between-your.html



>> >         > May 16/01 via fax (279-1871):
>> >         > Royal Canadian Mounted Police
>> >         > Marystown Detachment
>> >         > Marystown, Nfld.
>> >         > Attention: Constable Jackie Remillard
>> >         > Dear Constable Remillard:: Re: Our Client - Mr Byron Prior
>> > Further to the above and to our various past communications,
>> > most particularly our letter of February 16/ 01, despite the
>> > passage of several months we have yet to receive the
>> > information requested at that time. As it is ordinarily a
>> > straightforward matter to obtain, with that person's consent,
>> > the statements of a complainant we are at a loss to explain to
>> > our client why our request has not been answered to date. We
>> > would, therefore, appreciate your early attention to this
>> > matter and look forward to the immediate receipt of the
>> > requested material. Trusting the above to be satisfactory.
>> >         > Yours very truly
>> >         > BUDDEN, MORRIS
>> >         > GEOFFREY E. BUDDEN



----------Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 12:15:47 -0400
Subject: ATTN Peter Gullage and Geoff Budden I just called Methinks CBC was dumb to play dumb today EH?
To: peter.gullage@cbc.ca, geoff@buddenlaw.com, "Catherine.Harrop", "Catherine.Tait", "Chuck.Thompson", "sylvie.gadoury", Newsroom , news , news
Cc: David Amos , Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, plee , radionews@cbc.ca, oldmaison , andre , jesse , jesse

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/mount-cashel-anniversary-1.5017182

Mount Cashel: After 30 years, the pain still has not gone away
Social Sharing

For survivor Billy Earle, the adage 'time heals all wounds' is only hypothetical
Peter Gullage · CBC News · Posted: Feb 17, 2019 6:00 PM NT


Peter Gullage

CBC Newfoundland and Labrador

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http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/02/here-is-one-hell-of-email-between-your.html



http://david1912.rssing.com/chan-22920969/all_p10.html



https://www.buddenlaw.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiKe957zU4AIVCmSGCh3UIgSfEAAYAyAAEgJa_PD_BwE


Geoff Budden
geoff@buddenlaw.com
709-576-0077


Geoff is a well-known civil litigator who has spent his career
representing survivors of institutional and other forms of abuse.

In 2013, he was part of the international legal team that was
successful in obtaining $16.5 million in cash compensation for those
who were molested as children by Christian Brothers of Ireland.

Geoff resides in St. John's with his family and has volunteered with
organizations such as the Newfoundland and Labrador Human Rights
Association, the St. John's Regional Library Board and the Avalon East
School Board.

Geoff is proud to currently serve as a board member on and supporter
of the Newfoundland and Labrador Sexual Assault Crisis and Prevention
Centre.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:35:00 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Attn Alex Johnston and Sylvie Gadoury Please explain CBC
and VIAFOURA's malicious nonsense AGAIN real slow
To: denise.wilson@cbc.ca, chantal.bernard@cbc.ca
Cc: David Amos


---------- Original message ----------
From: "Hon.Ralph.Goodale  (PS/SP)"
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:45:18 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Alex Johnston and Sylvie Gadoury Please
explain CBCand VIAFOURA's malious nonsense AGAIN real slow
To: David Amos

Merci d'avoir ?crit ? l'honorable Ralph Goodale, ministre de la
S?curit? publique et de la Protection civile.
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Brian (LEG)"
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:45:20 +0000
Subject: RE: Attn Alex Johnston and Sylvie Gadoury Please explain
CBCand VIAFOURA's malious nonsense AGAIN real slow
To: David Amos

Thank you for writing to the Leader of the Official Opposition of New
Brunswick. Please be assured that your e-mail will be reviewed.

If this is a media request, please forward your e-mail to
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sera examiné.

Si ceci est une demande médiatique, prière de la transmettre à
ashley.beaudin@gnb.ca.  Merci!



---------- Original message ----------
From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:45:12 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Alex Johnston and Sylvie Gadoury Please
explain CBCand VIAFOURA's malious nonsense AGAIN real slow
To: David Amos

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---------- Original message ----------
From: Newsroom
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:45:12 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Alex Johnston and Sylvie Gadoury Please
explain CBCand VIAFOURA's malious nonsense AGAIN real slow
To: David Amos

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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:45:08 -0400
Subject: Attn Alex Johnston and Sylvie Gadoury Please explain CBCand
VIAFOURA's malious nonsense AGAIN real slow
To: Alex.Johnston@cbc.ca, jesse@viafoura.com,
sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca,
Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca,
andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, premier@ontario.ca,  brian.gallant@gnb.ca,
premier@gnb.ca,  Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca,
hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca,
Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov, mdcohen212@gmail.com, djtjr@trumporg.com,
Newsroom@globeandmail.com,news@kingscorecord.com,
Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre andre@jafaust.com,
jbosnitch@gmail.com, jesse@jessebrown.ca,  blaine.higgs@gnb.ca,
David.Coon@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca, Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/francophone-games-cost-soaring-1.4937587


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tax-evasion-proceeds-of-crime-1.4937176

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/top-house-democrats-raise-prospect-impeachment-jail-trump-1.4939034


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 08:42:54 -0400
Subject: RE The Inquiry into the Demise of Don Dunphy Here is one of
the emails that I promised to send you all
To: admin@ciddd.ca, schaytor@coxandpalmer.com, kobrien@obaw.ca,
mark.freeman@justice.gc.ca, Lori.Rasmussen@justice.gc.ca,
jkennedy@wrmmlaw.com, ebreen@spdefence.ca, rsimmonds@sbkdefence.com,
nickavis@bfma-law.com, twilliams@odeaearle.ca, jdrover@wrmmlaw.com,
cflaherty@rogersbristowmoyse.ca, will@buddenlaw.com,
kmahoney@rogersbristowmoyse.ca
Cc: David Amos ,
andrewparsons@gov.nl.ca, Mark.Quinn@cbc.ca, steve.murphy@ctv.ca,
SMay@coxandpalmer.com, "bob.paulson",
"hon.ralph.goodale", mcu
, "david.hansen"

It is the only email I ever sent to the lawyer Andrew Parsons because
as the Attorney General he has my file anyway

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 17:30:55 -0400
Subject: Fwd: After listening to your opinions CanadaLand I called and
tried to speak to both of you about what I know about the Rock and had
luck getting through to either of you
To: rocksolidpolitics@gmail.com, Mark.Quinn@cbc.ca,
dwightball@gov.nl.ca, cbennett@gov.nl.ca, lorrainemichael@gov.nl.ca,
tosborne@gov.nl.ca, andrewparsons@gov.nl.ca, kevinparsons@gov.nl.ca,
pamparsons@gov.nl.ca, padavis@gov.nl.ca, gerrybyrne@gov.nl.ca,
siobhancoady@gov.nl.ca
Cc: David Amos , newsroom
, "steve.murphy"


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 16:04:22 -0400
Subject: After listening to your opinions CanadaLand I called and
tried to speak to both of you about what I know about the Rock and had
luck getting through to either of you
To: jmcleod@thetelegram.com, acoffin@mun.ca
Cc: David Amos , steve.moate@utoronto.ca

Episode #: 131
Newfoundland Is Screwed
http://canadalandshow.com/podcast/newfoundland-screwed

Episode #: 50
Debating Same-Sex Marriage and Other Ways to Stay Irrelevant
http://canadalandshow.com/podcast/debating-same-sex-marriage-and-other-ways-stay-irrelevant

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "May, Steve (St. John's)"
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:24:33 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Justin
Trudeau really screwed up when he sent the nasty little Newfy Altar
Boy Richard Southcott down from Ottawa to argue mean old me
To: David Amos

I am out of the office until Friday, 15 January, attending meetings in
Ottawa with limited ability to respond to e-mail.  If the matter is
urgent, please call 709-738-7800 for further assistance.


>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/05/nfld-whistleblower-dodges-libel-charge.html
>
> 2005 01 T 0010
>
> IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR
> TRIAL DIVISION
> BETWEEN:
>
> WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF
> AND:
> BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT
>
> AND BETWEEN:
> BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT/PLAINTIFF
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF/FIRST DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: T. ALEX HICKMAN SECOND DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: THOMAS MARSHALL THIRD DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: DANNY WILLIAMS FOURTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: EDWARD M. ROBERTS FIFTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: JOHN CROSBIE SIXTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: PATTERSON PALMER SEVENTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> SUMMARY OF CURRENT DOCUMENT
>
> Court File Number(s):2005 01 T 0010
>
> Date of Filing of Document: 25 January 2005
>
> Name of Filing Party or Person: Stephen J. May
>
> Application to which Document being filed relates: Amended Application
> of the Plaintiff/Defendant by Counterclaim to maintain an Order
> restricting publication, to strike portions of the Statement of
> Defence, strike the Counterclaim in it's entirety, and to refer this
> proceeding to case management.
>
> Statement of purpose in filing: To maintain an Order restricting
> publication, to strike portions of the Statement of Defence, strike
> the Counterclaim in its entirety and refer this proceeding to case
> management.
>
> A F F I D A V I T
>
> I, Stephen J. May, of the City of St. John's, in the Province of
> Newfoundland and Labrador, Barrister and Solicitor, make oath and say
> as follows:
>
> THAT I am a Partner in the St. John's office of PATTERSON PALMER
> solicitors for William Matthews, the Member of Parliament for
> Random-Burin-St. George's in the Parliament of Canada.
>
> THAT Mr. Matthews originally retained Mr. Edward Roberts, Q.C. on or
> about 30 April 2002 after Mr. Byron Prior, the Defendant/Plaintiff by
> Counterclaim, had made allegations against Mr. Matthews in a
> publication called "My Inheritance - The truth - Not Fiction: A Town
> with a Secret". In that publication, the allegation was made that Mr.
> Matthews had had sex with a girl who had been prostituted by her
> mother. That girl was alleged to have been Mr. Prior's sister.
>
> THAT upon being retained, Mr. Edward Roberts wrote a letter to Mr.
> Prior. That letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit "1" to my
> Affidavit.
>
> THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts' letter to Mr. Prior, Mr. Roberts
> received a 1 May 2002 e-mail from Mr. Prior. That e-mail is attached
> as Exhibit "2".
>
> THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts receipt of the e-mail, Mr. Prior swore
> an Affidavit acknowledging that what had been said in that publication
> was false. That Affidavit is attached as Exhibit "3" to my Affidavit.
> Following Mr. Roberts' receipt of that Affidavit, Mr. Matthews advised
> that he was satisfied not to pursue the matter any further and our
> firm closed our file.
>
> THAT on or about 25 October 2004, I was retained by Mr. Matthews
> following his gaining knowledge that a web site, made a series of
> allegations against him relating to my having sex with a girl of
> approximately 12 years old through to an approximate age of 15 years
> old. It also accused him of being a father of one of her children and
> accused him of having raped that girl. Upon checking the web site I
> saw that Byron Prior, the Defendant, had been identified as the author
> of the material on the site.
>
> THAT Mr. Matthews instructed me to write Mr. Prior, to remind him of
> the fact that the allegations had been admitted to being false through
> a 16 May 2002 Affidavit to advise him of Mr. Matthews' intentions to
> commence legal proceedings if the comments were not removed from the
> web site. A copy of my letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit "4"
> to this Affidavit.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit "5" a transcript from a 5 November 2004
> voicemail left by David Amos, identified in the voicemail as a friend
> of Mr. Prior.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit "6" a portion of a 6 November 2004 e-mail
> from Mr. Amos.
>
> THAT until I received his voicemail and e-mail, I had never heard of Mr.
> Amos.
>
> THAT Mr. Amos has continued to send me e-mail since his 5 November
> e-mail. Including his 6 November 2004 e-mail, I have received a total
> of 15 e-mails as of 23 January 2005. All do not address Mr. Matthews'
> claim or my involvement as Mr. Matthews' solicitor. I attach as
> Exhibit "7" a portion of a 12 January 2005 e-mail that Mr. Amos sent
> to me but originally came to my attention through Ms. Lois Skanes
> whose firm had received a copy. This e-mail followed the service of
> the Statement of Claim on 11 January 2005 on Mr. Prior. I also attach
> as Exhibit "8" a copy of a 19 January 2005 e-mail from Mr. Amos.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit "9" a copy of a 22 November 2004 letter
> addressed to me from Edward Roberts, the Lieutenant Governor of
> Newfoundland and Labrador covering a 2 September 2004 letter from Mr.
> Amos addressed to John Crosbie, Edward Roberts, in his capacity as
> Lieutenant Governor, Danny Williams, in his capacity as Premier of
> Newfoundland and Labrador, and Brian F. Furey, President of the Law
> Society of Newfoundland and Labrador. I requested a copy of this
> letter from Government House after asking Mr. Roberts if he had
> received any correspondence from Mr. Amos during his previous
> representation of Mr. Matthews. He advised me that he received a
> letter since becoming Lieutenant Governor, portions of which involved
> his representation of Mr. Matthews. Mr. Roberts' letter also covered
> his reply to Mr. Amos.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit "10" an e-mail from Mr. Amos received on
> Sunday, 23 January 2005.
>
> THAT I swear this Affidavit in support of the Application to strike
> Mr. Prior's counterclaim.
>
> SWORN to before me at
> St. John's, Province of Newfoundland and Labrador this 24th day of
> January, 2005.
>
> Signed by Della Hart
> STEPHEN J. MAY
> Signature STAMP
> DELLA HART
> A Commissioner for Oaths in and for
> the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador. My commission expires on
> December 31, 2009
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Póstur FOR
>> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
>> Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
>> parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
>> Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
>> that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
>> to be..
>> To: David Amos
>>
>> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received
>>
>> Kveðja / Best regards
>> Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office
>>
>>
>> This is the docket
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>
>> These are digital recordings of  the last two hearings
>>
>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>
>> Jan 11th https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>
>> This me running for a seat in Parliament again while CBC denies it again
>>
>> Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
>> Campaign, Rogers TV
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>> 902 800 0369
>>
>>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: Fry.H@parl.gc.ca ; Emerson.D@parl.gc.ca ; Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca ;
> letters@proislam.com ; Cummins.J@parl.gc.ca ; Canada@cair-net.org ;
> dcr618@msn.com ; madd_professor@cox.net ; Iolmisha@cs.com ;
> derrickcrobinson@gmail.com ; khr909@hotmail.com ; erniemusic2@yahoo.com ;
> kevin_annett@hotmail.com ; radical@radicalpress.com ; thespur@hotmail.com ;
> lisah@whooshnet.com ; dougchristie@shaw.ca ; lawald@web.net ;
> wickedwanda3@adelphia.net ; fbinhct@leo.gov ; info@afi-international.com ;
> wgoss@smss.com ; landrews@smss.com ; jcrosbie@coxandpalmer.com ;
> rgfaloon@coxandpalmer.com ; dhashey@coxandpalmer.com ;
> smay@coxandpalmer.com
> ; kmccullogh@smss.com ; gpetrie@smss.com ; orakwa@paulcomm.ca ;
> Kahentinetha2@yahoo.com ; katenies20@yahoo.com ; media@cupw-sttp.org
> Cc: ceri@shaw.ca ; deanr0032@hotmail.com ; info@politicswatch.com ;
> Flaherty.J@parl.gc.ca ; Baird.J@parl.gc.ca ; Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca ;
> McGuinty.D@parl.gc.ca ; Dhalla.R@parl.gc.ca ; Casey.B@parl.gc.ca ;
> Leblanc.D@parl.gc.ca ; Holland.M@parl.gc.ca ; Hubbard.C@parl.gc.ca ;
> Martin.Pat@parl.gc.ca ; Guergis.H@parl.gc.ca ; Mark.I@parl.gc.ca ;
> Turner.G@parl.gc.ca ; Chong.M@parl.gc.ca ; Comuzzi.J@parl.gc.ca ;
> warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; John.Foran@gnb.ca
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:15 PM
> Subject: RE;Budget votes and more War its the same old same old If you
> forgot scroll down
>
>
> I just talked to Paul Dewar's office for the last time.and spoke to Jamesey
> Baby once again. He told me to go for it and sue the Crown I told him I willl
> also sue him and his chickenshit boss too or my name ain't "Just Dave".
> reveiw his Bullshit and start lining up lawyers.
>
> "Katter, Robert (MP)" wrote:
>
> Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Portions of wiretap tapes to impeach
> George W. Bush and put a stop Harper's motion tommorrow
> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 02:18:35 +1000
> From: "Katter, Robert \(MP\)"
> To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> Thank you for your e-mail which will be forwarded to the appropriate staff
> member to deal with as soon as possible.
> The Kennedy electorate is a large electorate (about 2.5 times the size of
> the entire State of Victoria) with almost 150,000 residents, over 120
> schools and over 140 localities all with various service and sporting
> clubs.
> For this reason we receive quite a large volume of faxes, letters, e-mails
> and phone calls each day and while our staff aim for a 7-day turnaround in
> correspondence - unfortunately this is not always possible.  However, if
> you
> have not heard back from anyone at the office within 7-14 days, please
> telephone the office on the numbers listed below.
> If the matter is urgent please phone 1800 810 519, or if you are not in the
> electorate, 07 4061 6066.
> To save disappointment we should advise that correspondence from outside
> the
> electorate is not given the priority that correspondence within the
> electorate is given.
> That said, many thanks for your message, and we will endeavour to get back
> to you as soon as possible.
> Hon Bob Katter MP
> Member for Kennedy
> Innisfail Office:  Cnr Edith & Owen Sts PO Box 1638 Innisfail FNQ 4860 Ph
> 07
> 4061 6066 Fx 07 4061 6566
> Mt Isa Office:  52 Miles St Mt Isa NWQ 4825 PO Box 2130 Mt Isa NWQ 4825 Ph
> 07 4743 3534 Fx 07 4743 0189
> Parliament House (Sitting weeks only) Ph 02 6277 4978  Fx 02 6277 8558
> Toll Free Number: 1800 810 519
>
> "Roy, Bruno (Patterson Palmer NB)" wrote:
>
> Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Stevey Boy Harper and Malicious Mikey
> Ignatieff ain't fishing on Brokeback Mountian EH? Here is why
> Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 10:52:58 -0300
> From: "Roy, Bruno \(Patterson Palmer NB\)"
> To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> I will be out of the office until May 23rd. Should you need any assistance,
> please call my assistant Doris at 856-9800.
>
> Je serai hors du bureau jusqu'au 23 mai. Si vous avez des questions, vous
> pouvez rejoindre mon adjointe Doris au 856-9800.
>
>
>
> "Dewar, Paul - M.P." wrote:
>   Subject: RE: Portions of wiretap tapes to impeach George W. Bush and put
> a
> stop Harper's motion tommorrow
>   Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:49:47 -0400
>   From: "Dewar, Paul - M.P."
>   To: "David Amos"
>
>
>   Hi David. My name is James and I have been asked to send this message
> onto
> you from Paul…
>
>   Dear Mr. Amos,
>
>   Thank you for informing me of your concerns regarding Canada's role in
> Afghanistan after February 2007.
>
>   The NDP voted against this motion because we believe it is the wrong
> mission for Canada. It does not reflect the peace-making values that
> Canadians want to see our forces undertake on the world stage. This forced
> motion essentially ties our aid and development funds to war-making, and we
> cannot support that.
>
>   It is quite clear that Harper's Conservatives aren't interested in due
> diligence. They're interested in dragging us further into a US-style combat
> role and away from our traditional peace keeping role. Much like the
> Liberals before them, the Conservatives have failed to tell Canadians:
>
>   - What the chain of command and control will be for this mission.
>   - What the definition of success will be for our troops.
>   - What our exit strategy will be.
>
>   Many Canadians have written me wanting answers and it is our duty as
> representatives of our constituents, to get answers before committing to
> any
> new missions overseas. As any soldier knows, time spent on reconnaissance
> is
> never wasted.
>
>   New Democrats recognize that Canada does have a role in assisting
> Afghanis
> in rebuilding their country. Afghanistan is the largest recipient of
> Canadian overseas development aid and we fully support the continuation of
> that funding - outside of this mission.
>
>   Thank you again for the time and effort you have taken to share your
> thoughts with me, and for bringing your opinion on this matter to my
> attention.
>
>   Sincerely,
>
>
>
>   Paul Dewar, MP Ottawa Centre
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com]
>   Sent: May 16, 2006 8:13 PM
>   To: Allen, Mike - M.P.; rcastrocalvo@yahoo.com; irislana@hotmail.com;
> Angus, Charlie - M.P.; Atamanenko, Alex - M.P.; Bell, Catherine - M.P.;
> Bevington, Dennis - M.P.; Black, Dawn - M.P.; Blaikie, Bill - M.P.;
> Charlton, Chris - M.P.; Chow, Olivia - M.P.; Christopherson, David - M.P.;
> Comartin, Joe - M.P.; Crowder, Jean - M.P.; Cullen, Nathan - M.P.; Davies,
> Libby - M.P.; Dewar, Paul - M.P.; Julian, Peter - M.P.; Marston, Wayne -
> M.P.; Martin, Pat D. - M.P.; Martin, Tony - M.P.; Masse, Brian - M.P.;
> Mathyssen, Irene - M.P.; Nash, Peggy - M.P.; Priddy, Penny - M.P.; Savoie,
> Denise - M.P.; Siksay, Bill - M.P.; Wasylycia-Leis, Judy - M.P.; Emerson,
> David - M.P.
>   Cc: Simms, Scott - M.P.; Russell, Todd - M.P.; Manning, Fabian - M.P.;
> Hearn, Loyola - M.P.; Doyle, Norman - M.P.; Byrne, Gerry - M.P.; McGuire,
> Joe - M.P.; MacAulay, Lawrence - M.P.; D'Amours, Jean-Claude - M.P.;
> Hubbard, Charles - M.P.; Murphy, Brian - M.P.; Thibault, Robert - M.P.;
> Savage, Michael - M.P.; Regan, Geoff - M.P.; Keddy, Gerald - M.P.; Eyking,
> Mark - M.P.; Cuzner, Rodger - M.P.; Brison, Scott - M.P.
>   Subject: Portions of wiretap tapes to impeach George W. Bush and put a
> stop Harper's motion tommorrow
>
>
>   Hey
>           Before all the Parliamentarians argue and then vote to support
> further Canadian deaths in one of George W. Bush's Wars for Global Control
> for the benefit of his corporate cohorts perhaps, you should at least
> listen
> to the attachments if you do not wish to bother to read what Billy Casey
> and
> the Bankers got on May 12th. If I can assist in preventing the demise of
> just one more Canadian warrior in a malicious foreign war, all of my work
> will have been worth it EH?
>            If everyone ignores me as usual, I will not be surprised. At
> least I will sleep well with my conscience tonight because I know I have
> done my very best to stop the nonsense since early 2002 long before the War
> in Iraq began. None of you deserve to sleep well at all because you all
> supported Harper's orders to send our people to war even before the 39th
> Parliament sat this year. As far as I am concerned the blood of four very
> honourable soldiers can be found on your hands. Shame on all of you for not
> even bothering to honour our dead by lowering the flag on the Peacetower.
> As
> long as I have been aware and could consider myself a Proad Canadian, I
> thought we were peacekeepers rather than poorly paid hired guns for crooked
> corporations, corrupt politicians and their wicked Yankee bible pounding
> buddies.
>                                                             Veritas Vincit
>                                                                    David
> Raymond Amos
>
>
>   FEDERAL EXPRESS February 7, 2006
>
>   Senator Arlen Specter
>   United States Senate
>   Committee on the Judiciary
>   224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>   Washington, DC 20510
>
>   Dear Mr. Specter:
>
>   I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man named,
> David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters raised in
> the
> attached letter. Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI
> wire tap tapes. I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this
> previously.
>
>   Very truly yours,
>   Barry A. Bachrach
>   Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>   Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>   Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>
>
>         Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 00:00:53 -0700 (PDT)
>         From: "David Amos"
>         Subject: Jumping Jimmy Flaherty's jump boots versus Crosbie's old
> mukluks in a liberal Senate
>         To: Grant.GARNEAU@gnb.ca, Russell_Feingold@feingold.senate.gov,
> duffy@ctv.ca, tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com,
> Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us, Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us,
> Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us, Kandalaw@mindspring.com, kmdickson@comcast.net,
> trvl@hotmail.com, patrick.fitzgerald@usdoj.gov, fbinhct@leo.gov,
> oldmaison@yahoo.com, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, michael.malley@gnb.ca,
> EGreenspan@144king.com, josie.maguire@dfait-maeci.gc.ca,
> alicia.mcdonnell@state.ma.us, info@pco-bcp.gc.ca, ted.tax@justice.gc.ca,
> Cotler.I@parl.gc.ca, racing.commission@state.ma.us, dwatch@web.net,
> freeman.c@parl.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, graham.b@parl.gc.ca,
> arthur.a@parl.gc.ca
>         CC: nwnews@cknw.com, davidamos@bsn1.net, BBACHRACH@bowditch.com,
> david.allgood@rbc.com, mackay.p@parl.gc.ca, stronach.b@parl.gc.ca,
> moore.r@parl.gc.ca, thompson.g@parl.gc.ca, toews.v@parl.gc.ca,
> day.s@parl.gc.ca, casey.b@parl.gc.ca, mlevine@goodmans.ca,
> brae@goodmans.ca,
> steve.moate@utoronto.ca, sarah.mann@rci.rogers.com, rep@karenyarbrough.com,
> dc@thepen.us, paul.neuman@asm.ca.gov, info@afterdowningstreet.org,
> gearpigs@hotmail.com, alltrue@nl.rogers.com, Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca
>
>    Deja Vu Anyone? Anyone?
>   That's what John Crosbie wore in 1979, the last time a budget brought
> down
> a Canadian government in a minority-Parliament situation. It proved to be a
> bad omen, given that the Conservative government of the day foundered on
> Crosbie's document.
>   The mukluks proved to be
>

----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: oldmaison@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: Yelich.L@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:32 AM
Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home
CC: Roy.J@parl.gc.ca ; Saada.J@parl.gc.ca ; Sauvageau.B@parl.gc.ca ;
Savoy.A@parl.gc.ca ; Scherrer.H@parl.gc.ca ; Schmidt.W@parl.gc.ca ;
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----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: Rock.A@parl.gc.ca
Cc: McNally.G@parl.gc.ca ; McTeague.D@parl.gc.ca ; Menard.R@parl.gc.ca
; Meredith.V@parl.gc.ca ; Merrifield.R@parl.gc.ca ;
Milliken.P@parl.gc.ca ; Mills.B@parl.gc.ca ; Mills.D@parl.gc.ca ;
Minna.M@parl.gc.ca ; Mitchell.A@parl.gc.ca ; Moore.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Murphy.S@parl.gc.ca ; Myers.L@parl.gc.ca ; Nault.R@parl.gc.ca ;
Neville.A@parl.gc.ca ; Normand.G@parl.gc.ca ; Nystrom.L@parl.gc.ca ;
Obhrai.D@parl.gc.ca ; OBrien.L@parl.gc.ca ; OBrien.P@parl.gc.ca ;
OReilly.J@parl.gc.ca ; Owen.S@parl.gc.ca ; Pagtakhan.R@parl.gc.ca ;
Pallister.B@parl.gc.ca ; Pankiw.J@parl.gc.ca ; Paquette.P@parl.gc.ca ;
Paradis.D@parl.gc.ca ; Parrish.C@parl.gc.ca ; Patry.B@parl.gc.ca ;
Penson.C@parl.gc.ca ; Peric.J@parl.gc.ca ; Perron.G-A@parl.gc.ca ;
Peschisolido.J@parl.gc.ca ; Peterson.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Pettigrew.P@parl.gc.ca ; Phinney.B@parl.gc.ca ; Picard.P@parl.gc.ca ;
Pickard.J@parl.gc.ca ; Pillitteri.G@parl.gc.ca ;
Plamondon.L@parl.gc.ca ; Pratt.D@parl.gc.ca ; Price.D@parl.gc.ca ;
Proctor.D@parl.gc.ca ; Proulx.M@parl.gc.ca ; Provenzano.C@parl.gc.ca ;
Rajotte.J@parl.gc.ca ; Redman.K@parl.gc.ca ; Reed.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Regan.G@parl.gc.ca ; Reid.S@parl.gc.ca ; Reynolds.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Richardson.J@parl.gc.ca ; Ritz.G@parl.gc.ca ; Robillard.L@parl.gc.ca ;
Robinson.S@parl.gc.ca ; Rocheleau.Y@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:29 AM
Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca
Cc: Hill.G@parl.gc.ca ; Hill.J@parl.gc.ca ; Hilstrom.H@parl.gc.ca ;
Hinton.B@parl.gc.ca ; Hubbard.C@parl.gc.ca ; Ianno.T@parl.gc.ca ;
Jackson.O@parl.gc.ca ; Jaffer.R@parl.gc.ca ; Jennings.M@parl.gc.ca ;
Johnston.D@parl.gc.ca ; Jordan.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Karetak-Lindell.N@parl.gc.ca ; Karygiannis.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Keddy.G@parl.gc.ca ; Kenney.J@parl.gc.ca ; Keyes.S@parl.gc.ca ;
Kilger.B@parl.gc.ca ; Kilgour.D@parl.gc.ca ; Knutson.G@parl.gc.ca ;
KraftSloan.K@parl.gc.ca ; Laframboise.M@parl.gc.ca ;
Laliberte.R@parl.gc.ca ; Lalonde.F@parl.gc.ca ; Lanctot.R@parl.gc.ca ;
Lastewka.W@parl.gc.ca ; Lavigne.R@parl.gc.ca ; Lebel.G@parl.gc.ca ;
Leblanc.D@parl.gc.ca ; Lee.D@parl.gc.ca ; Leung.S@parl.gc.ca ;
Lill.W@parl.gc.ca ; Lincoln.C@parl.gc.ca ; Longfield.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Loubier.Y@parl.gc.ca ; Lunn.G@parl.gc.ca ; Lunney.J@parl.gc.ca ;
MacAuley.L@parl.gc.ca ; Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca ; Macklin.P@parl.gc.ca ;
Malhi.G@parl.gc.ca ; Maloney.J@parl.gc.ca ; Mahoney.S@parl.gc.ca ;
Manley.J@parl.gc.ca ; Manning.P@parl.gc.ca ; Marceau.R@parl.gc.ca ;
Marcil.S@parl.gc.ca ; Mark.I@parl.gc.ca ; Marleau.D@parl.gc.ca ;
Martin.K@parl.gc.ca ; Martin.Pd@parl.gc.ca ; Martin.P@parl.gc.ca ;
Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca ; Mayfield.P@parl.gc.ca ; McCallum.J@parl.gc.ca
; McCormick.L@parl.gc.ca ; McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ;
McGuire.J@parl.gc.ca ; McKay.J@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: Herron.J@parl.gc.ca
Cc: Duncan.J@parl.gc.ca ; Duplain.C@parl.gc.ca ; Easter.W@parl.gc.ca ;
Eggleton.A@parl.gc.ca ; Elley.R@parl.gc.ca ; Epp.K@parl.gc.ca ;
Eyking.M@parl.gc.ca ; Farrah.G@parl.gc.ca ; Finlay.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Fitzpatrick.B@parl.gc.ca ; Folco.R@parl.gc.ca ; Fontana.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Forseth.P@parl.gc.ca ; Fournier.G@parl.gc.ca ; Fry.H@parl.gc.ca ;
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Gallant.C@parl.gc.ca ; Gallaway.R@parl.gc.ca ; Gauthier.M@parl.gc.ca ;
Girard-Bujold.J@parl.gc.ca ; Godfrey.J@parl.gc.ca ; Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca
; Goldring.P@parl.gc.ca ; Goodale.R@parl.gc.ca ; Gouk.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Graham.B@parl.gc.ca ; Gray.H@parl.gc.ca ; Grewal.G@parl.gc.ca ;
Grey.D@parl.gc.ca ; Grose.I@parl.gc.ca ; Guarnieri.A@parl.gc.ca ;
Guay.M@parl.gc.ca ; Guimond.M@parl.gc.ca ; Hanger.A@parl.gc.ca ;
Harb.M@parl.gc.ca ; Harris.R@parl.gc.ca ; Harvard.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Harvey.A@parl.gc.ca ; Hearn.L@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:17 AM
Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: bihal_sm007@rogers.com
Cc: pm@pm.gc.ca ; pmo@pm.gc.ca ; Abbott.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Ablonczy.D@parl.gc.ca ; Adams.P@parl.gc.ca ; Alcock.R@parl.gc.ca ;
Allard.C@parl.gc.ca ; Anders.R@parl.gc.ca ; Anderson.D@parl.gc.ca ;
Anderson.Da@parl.gc.ca ; Assad.M@parl.gc.ca ; Assadourian.S@parl.gc.ca
; Asselin.G@parl.gc.ca ; Augustine.J@parl.gc.ca ; Bachand.A@parl.gc.ca
; Bachand.C@parl.gc.ca ; Bagnell.L@parl.gc.ca ; Bailey.R@parl.gc.ca ;
Baker.G@parl.gc.ca ; Bakopanos.E@parl.gc.ca ; Barnes.S@parl.gc.ca ;
Beaumier.C@parl.gc.ca ; Belair.R@parl.gc.ca ; Belanger.M@parl.gc.ca ;
Bellehumeur.M@parl.gc.ca ; Bellemare.E@parl.gc.ca ;
Bennett.C@parl.gc.ca ; Benoit.L@parl.gc.ca ; Bergeron.S@parl.gc.ca ;
Bertrand.R@parl.gc.ca ; Bevilacqua.M@parl.gc.ca ; Bigras.B@parl.gc.ca
; Binet.G@parl.gc.ca ; Blaikie.B@parl.gc.ca ;
Blondin-Andrew.E@parl.gc.ca ; Bonin.R@parl.gc.ca ;
Bonwick.P@parl.gc.ca ; Borotsik.R@parl.gc.ca ; Boudria.D@parl.gc.ca ;
Bourgeois.D@parl.gc.ca ; Bradshaw.C@parl.gc.ca ;
Breitkreuz.G@parl.gc.ca ; Brien.P@parl.gc.ca ; Brison.S@parl.gc.ca ;
Brown.B@parl.gc.ca ; Bryden.J@parl.gc.ca ; Bulte.S@parl.gc.ca ;
Burton.A@parl.gc.ca ; Byrne.G@parl.gc.ca ; Caccia.C@parl.gc.ca ;
Cadman.C@parl.gc.ca ; Calder.M@parl.gc.ca ; Cannis.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Caplan.E@parl.gc.ca ; Cardin.S@parl.gc.ca ; Carignan.J@parl.gc.ca ;
Carroll.A@parl.gc.ca ; Casey.B@parl.gc.ca ; Casson.R@parl.gc.ca ;
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Cauchon.M@parl.gc.ca ; Chamberlain.B@parl.gc.ca ;
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; Coderre.D@parl.gc.ca ; Collenette.D@parl.gc.ca ;
Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca ; Comuzzi.J@parl.gc.ca ; Copps.S@parl.gc.ca ;
Cotler.I@parl.gc.ca ; Crete.P@parl.gc.ca ; Cullen.R@parl.gc.ca ;
Cummins.J@parl.gc.ca ; Cuzner.R@parl.gc.ca ;
Dalphond-Guiral.M@parl.gc.ca ; Davies.L@parl.gc.ca ; Day.S@parl.gc.ca
; Desjarlais.B@parl.gc.ca ; Desrochers.O@parl.gc.ca ;
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Discepola.N@parl.gc.ca ; Doyle.N@parl.gc.ca ; Dromisky.S@parl.gc.ca ;
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Duhamel.R@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:13 AM
Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: Connie Fogal
Cc: adamsw@sen.parl.gc.ca ; andrer@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
angusd@sen.parl.gc.ca ; atkinn@sen.parl.gc.ca ; austij@sen.parl.gc.ca
; baconl@sen.parl.gc.ca ; bankst@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
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; brydej@sen.parl.gc.ca ; buchaj@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
callbc@sen.parl.gc.ca ; carnep@sen.parl.gc.ca ; carsts@sen.parl.gc.ca
; chalit@sen.parl.gc.ca ; cochre@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
chrisi@sen.parl.gc.ca ; cohene@sen.parl.gc.ca ; comeag@sen.parl.gc.ca
; cookj@sen.parl.gc.ca ; coolsa@sen.parl.gc.ca ; corbie@sen.parl.gc.ca
; cordyj@sen.parl.gc.ca ; debanp@sen.parl.gc.ca ; days@sen.parl.gc.ca
; dininc@sen.parl.gc.ca ; doodyw@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
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; finess@sen.parl.gc.ca ; finnei@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
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; frasej@sen.parl.gc.ca ; gauthj@sen.parl.gc.ca ; gilla@sen.parl.gc.ca
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; losier@sen.parl.gc.ca ; lynchj@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
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; meighm@sen.parl.gc.ca ; milnel@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
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; tkachd@sen.parl.gc.ca ; tunnej@sen.parl.gc.ca ; wattc@sen.parl.gc.ca
; wiebej@sen.parl.gc.ca ; wilsol@sen.parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:21 AM
Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: robanders@telus.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 8:44 AM
Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: Harper.S@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 8:41 AM
Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: Goldring.P@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 8:39 AM
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----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: davidorchard@sasktel.net
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:15 PM
Subject: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home


Just so ya know David I am forwarding these emails to other
politicians as well. But I didn't bother to call them because they
are lawyers as well. Therefore I see no need to explain my actions to
them. Plus the smart one's have a bad habit of trying to ignore me
anyway. I t appears that standard operating procedure for them is to
ignore. delay, deny and then try to settle. They are confused by
someone that wants to argue law rather than go away with the gold.
What should be interesting to both of us is whether or not they have a
sudden fit of ethical behavior after they discover that an honest
western farmer and wild but ethical maritime biker have been talking
about them. Please notice that I am more than willing to help such a
man as Byron Prior anyway I can. I just wish there were more men like
him on this planet. Trust me the US Attorney backtracking in the
Martha Stewart matter and prosecuting a Secret Service Agent is too
funny to relate in this email.
Dave

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Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Regarding your e-mail


> David,
>
> Thanks for the e-mails. I will read them all and hear what you have to say.
>
> All the best.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Amos
> > To: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 5:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: Regarding your e-mail
> >
> >
> > Elsie, I like you more and more. If anyone understands about
> > being forced to be away from his family its me. Give my mom a
> > call. Her laugh alone will make your day. To hell with the
> > smiling bastards in Ottawa their grins ain't genuine. Maritimers
> > can still find some fun in a long hard day :) Come to think of
> > it, maybe thats why the Upper Canadians think we are crazy. By
> > the way I have managed to get a rather famous lawyer to speak on
> > my wife's behalf down here while I run for Parliament uphome. But
> > before I go I have been invited to go fishing with Martha
> > Stewart's brother Frank in the Gulf of Mexico. My matters are
> > about to bust wide open down here. That is why I have chosen this
> > time to make appearance uphome. Once I make the news down here I
> > will step on the stump uphome.
> > Best
> > Regards
> > Dave
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> > To: David Amos
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:42 PM
> > Subject: RE: Regarding your e-mail
> >
> >
> > Dear Dave,
> >
> > I try to respond to as many people as I can. We do get a lot of email
> > around here.... I decided to retire because I truly miss my family.
> > It's hard being on the road back and forth by yourself. It gets very
> > lonely.
> >
> > God Bless,
> > Elsie
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:davidamos@comcast.net]
> > Sent: March 22, 2004 3:28 PM
> > To: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> > Subject: Re: Regarding your e-mail
> >
> >
> > No problem, Elsie. By the way my mom is a fan of yours. She told
> > me you were quitting. Too bad if it is true.You are the first
> > politician to respond to me. That fact alone wins my respect. Ask
> > around Saint John about me in certain circles I am fairly well
> > known. You may even know my sister, Nancy and her husband, Reid
> > Chedore. Perhaps you crossed paths with my dad C. Max Amos he was
> > a tax Supervisor for the Province years ago. And maybe even my
> > mom's second husband, Lloyd Nickerson, from Fredericton. He was
> > somewhat of a political person whereas my dad was not. (Lloyd was
> > chief electoral officer for about twelve years and did run as a
> > Conservative) If you wish to warm my mom's heart please give her
> > a call and simply say that you appreciate her good words about
> > you to her wild child Dalevid. She will get the joke. She is
> > always confusing me with another brother. Her name is Anna and
> > her number is 506 455 3600. Do with it what you will. Trust me I
> > would love to see another out spoken Maritimer step up to the
> > plate and speak of rights and wrongs. The sooner that I can go
> > back to being just Papa the happier my little Clan will be. I
> > would truly appreciate if someone would let my mom know that they
> > are at least aware of my concerns whether they agree with me or
> > not.
> > Best
> > Regards
> > Dave
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> > To: David Amos
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: Regarding your e-mail
> >
> >
> > Thank you for the notice.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:davidamos@comcast.net]
> > Sent: March 16, 2004 2:07 PM
> > To: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> > Subject: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Amos
> > To: ethics@harvard.edu
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:06 PM
> > Subject: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Amos
> > To: tedcardwell@mail.gov.nf.ca
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:05 PM
> > Subject: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Amos
> > To: alltrue@roadrunner.nf.net
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:03 PM
> > Subject: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Amos
> > To: Correspondance Deputy Prime Minister/Vice premier ministre
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: Regarding your e-mail
> >
> >
> > I already received Anne's response. Can't you people read what
> > you wrote to me? Why else would I be so pissed off?
> > I am who I say I am and that is as follows:
> > David R. Amos
> > 153 Alvin Ave,
> > Milton, MA. 02186
> > Phone 617 240-6698
> >
> > Now just exactly who are you Mr. Correspondence Deputy Prime
> > Minister and are you a lawyer?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Correspondance Deputy Prime Minister/Vice premier
> > ministre" To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:34 PM
> > Subject: Regarding your e-mail
> >
> >
> > > If you wish to receive a response to your comments addressed
> > to the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Safety and
> > Emergency Preparedness, please include your return mailing
> > address along with your original e-mail message. All official
> > responses will be sent by regular mail.
> > >
> > > If you wish to send correspondence addressed to the Minister
> > through the regular mail, please use the following mailing
> > address:
> > >
> > > The Honourable A. Anne McLellan
> > > Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Safety
> > > and Emergency Preparedness
> > > 340 Laurier Avenue West
> > > Ottawa, Ontario
> > > K1A 0P8
> > >
> > > From: David Amos
> > > To: dwatch@web.net
> > > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:32 PM
> > > Subject: Read real slow then forget what is politically
> > correct.
> > >
> > > Deal with your own conscience. After that try to think of
> > a good
> > > reason why I should not run for Parliament and at least speak
> > my mind about the sad state of our affairs. You know who I am.
> > If you don't, trust me, you are way behind the eight ball.
> > > Once I make my mark in the American Justice System and
> > political
> > > process, I am coming home to stress test the ethics of many a
> > lawyer/politician in my nativeland during the course of the
> > next federal election. My question to all of you will be why
> > did you wait for me to say something? Am I the only one paying
> > any attention. Even Jesus got mad a time or two and tore up a
> > temple when he saw all the money changing hands in a place
> > that should not be concerned about such things. But forget
> > about the money for a minute. What did he have to say about
> > anyone that harmed a child? Rest assured I will remind you.
> > Although I ain't religious, I must say that Jesus had more of
> > sand than most men and he made some very good points about
> > what is right and what is wrong. Can any of you even hold a
> > candle to Byron? He has at least one friend that will back him
> > up all the way down the line. I don't mind dying it is what I
> > didn't do while I was living that will haunt me in in my
> > grave. What is the golden rule these days? Is it truly a fact
> > that he with the gold makes the rules. Do you think voters
> > agree with that fact? What say you?
> > > Canadian Corruption
> > >
> > > Sexual Abuse & Political & Legal Conspiracy.
> > >
> > > RCMP Incompetence & Cover up.
> > >
> > > Priors Of Grand Bank NFLD Canada
> > >
> > > How do I get a corrupt legal system to investigate, charge and
> > convict itself? After years of asking the Canadian Legal
> > System to do its job, it's long past time to inform the public
> > myself about this lack of action or justice.
> > > If T. Alex Hickman, Justice Minister, 1966 to 1979 also Health
> > Minister 1968 to 1969 and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
> > of Newfoundland 1979 to 2000, 34 YEARS OF COMPLETE LEGAL
> > SYSTEMS CONTROL,at 41 years of age, rapes and impregnates your
> > younger sister Susan, at 12 years old, and in grade 8, what
> > would you do?At 12 years old she was the youngest child
> > ever,in Grand Bank,to have a baby. I am willing to take any
> > tests and answer all questions regarding my entire life. All
> > he has to do is take one blood test. It's time for him to stop
> > manipulating our legal system and face the truth which I have
> > been telling the legal System,and anyone else who would
> > listen, all of my life.I didn't just awake one morning and
> > decide to accuse the most powerful and most corrupt legal
> > animal in this province. I have had, no childhood, no
> > education, no family, no hometown, no self- esteem or
> > self-respect and no past, present or future as a contributing
> > person.
> > >
> > > By the time I was 14 years old I was responsible for 9 younger
> > children, all of us abused and molested while our hometown
> > either joined in, bothered us about our situation, or looked
> > the other way and said we were all trouble. Our mother has
> > always been a hypochondriac and married prostitute in a town
> > of 2500 people. She can go blind instantly, become a cripple
> > instantly, go insane instantly and even convinced the doctors
> > at our Health Science Center 4 years ago she was dying of
> > cancer. They called her family and said she had a maximum of
> > two weeks to live, but out of every situation she can
> > instantly become well. This person is a disgrace to the human
> > race and also so are all those who support her. I am Byron
> > Prior, the oldest of her 12 children.
> > > (A) I was sexually abused by my mother from age 4 to 14.
> > >
> > > (B) Physically beaten by my mother until I bleed because I
> > tried to stop her friends and family from molesting my younger
> > sisters.
> > >
> > > (C) Sent next door with my mother's gay boyfriend almost daily
> > for money from age 5 to 14.
> > >
> > > (D) Brought to her drunk girlfriend's summer cabin to be
> > sexually abused for money.
> > >
> > > (E) Had to clean the blood from my 4 year old sister after she
> > was sexually molested by our grandfather and left on the
> > kitchen floor in a pool of blood.
> > >
> > > (F) Had to watch while my oldest sister had three miscarriages
> > and two children by the age of 15. One child for a member of
> > the Newfoundland Government when she was 12, and a second
> > child when she was 15 for another Politician, a girl, Majorie
> > and a boy, Arron. In 1983 the girl, age 15, was given an
> > illegal abortion in Montreal with everything arranged and paid
> > for with spending money for her and my sister Joan, by a
> > friend of the family. This girl has worked for Hickman's
> > family business from high school to this day. Five of my
> > sisters and one brother suffered similar abuse as I did.
> > > Why is this situation allowed to continue for more than 40
> > years and ruin all my families lives? Is it because,
> > > (A) Our mothers past customers are politically connected and
> > run our legal system.
> > >
> > > (B) Our mothers past customers are Grand Bank business men
> > whose children are now politicians.
> > >
> > > (C) One of our mothers family is a big wheel with organized
> > crime all of his adult life and is a partner to politicians.
> > >
> > > (D) Is it because two of her past customers are Salvation Army
> > officers, who came by to help us but became customers as well.
> > (E) Is it because all of North America is corrupt and a family
> > of 12 really means nothing to anyone when business and
> > politics are concerned in an economy controlled by corruption.
> > (F) Is it to cover up Child rape and corruption by T. Alex
> > Hickman and a business family with influence and business
> > contacts all across Canada. The legal system now tells us
> > justice for my family and I are three charges against one
> > mentally delayed man with a judge and jury at the T. Alex
> > Hickman building in the same town where we spent our entire
> > lives with abuse and persecution. Two R.C.M.P. officers and
> > the Crown prosecutors office will make no effort to have the
> > location changed. Again there will be NO JUSTICE SERVED and as
> > much covered up as possible. This I'm told will begin in Sept.
> > 2001, at Grand Bank, NFLD I spoke with the Crown Prosecutor on
> > Sept,18/01. He said his office has been trying to get the
> > complete investigation reports from the RCMP for more than two
> > years now and to this date still hasn't received them. He said
> > this was in his experience, the first time he had ever seen
> > such an unexplained delay to get information. On Nov 29/01 I'm
> > told by Victim services, this has changed to Jan.11/02 for a
> > trial date to be set.
> > >
> > > To whom it may concern: 04/13/98 There are many horrors that I
> > can recall from childhood. Byron's too frequent trips to the
> > woodshed next door; his having to sleep in the same bed as our
> > Mother; his little hands, palms down, being held on the hot
> > coal stove burner; the never ending beatings with belt
> > buckles; braided nylon ropes; old- fashioned ironing cords;
> > hot tea thrown in our faces or the face of my Father; knives
> > and forks thrown at us; hot grease thrown at us or our Father;
> > continual molestation - sexual - to myself and other siblings;
> > continual verbal and emotional abuse; at eight years old I was
> > locked in the cupboard under the stairs for hours with rats
> > crawling around me because my little brother had misplaced his
> > baby bottle while I was in charge of him; continual
> > abandonment when Mother would take her vacation and leave us
> > at seven and eight years old to take care of ourselves and the
> > babies; being forced to quit school to go to work to provide
> > yet more money for our beloved Mother; my younger brother,
> > Allan, being thrown into jail for no legitimate reason, other
> > than she wanted him out of the house - by the way; if you
> > check, you will also find that there is no record of his
> > incarceration; the abuse that we suffered was, and remains,
> > never ending........ Our lives have been destroyed. We all
> > suffer from severe emotional problems. We have extreme
> > difficulty trusting others. We cannot form loving
> > relationships. It is very difficult for us to allow others to
> > get that close to us without pushing them away. All we ever
> > wanted was someone to love us for who we were; but, when we
> > get close to others, we tend to sabotage those relationships -
> > unconsciously. The cycle of abuse continued with my own
> > daughter. My younger brother, Randell, molested her from the
> > age of four years. This fact my daughter was afraid to confide
> > to me until a year and a half ago. May God have mercy on his
> > soul because "I Don't"!!!! Both Byron and myself have tried to
> > have those in authority - RCMP, Social Services, Clergy and
> > Teachers help us, but, our cries for help fell on deaf ears.
> > We were, to them, a disposible family of liars and children
> > with overactive imaginations. Nothing can make the nightmares
> > go away. Even the sleeping pills don't work anymore. It has to
> > end! There has to be justice and a sense of closure for all of
> > us. Please, if we stop this cycle of insanity from happening
> > to other innocent children, then maybe our lives would have
> > not totally been in vain. You are our hope. Please help us to
> > find justice.
> > > Sincerely Yours,
> > > Sharl (Donna) Prior
> > >
> > > April 14, 1998
> > > A letter of Shame;
> > > This letter concerns what happened to my family and myself.
> > The things that I remember are also the things I try to
> > forget. I'm not very good with words so I will only tell you a
> > few things of many which have happened within my family.
> > Leather belts, ironing cords, ropes were only some things I
> > was beaten with so many times I can't count. Verbal and mental
> > abuse, the same humilating things that were done to my sisters
> > and brothers. Girls having to pull down their pants and pea in
> > their underwear for our mothers long time friend, for money. I
> > remember our mother going into a bedroom with him and coming
> > out some time later. We have a brother and sister (who I love)
> > who look and act like this guy. I expect, without much doubt,
> > are his. I remember the abuse to my father, a man I loved with
> > all my heart. Attacks on him with anything our mother could
> > put her hands on, knives, hot water, chasing him out of the
> > house. This man was home maybe a day every ten, and she would
> > blame him for everything and when Dad wasn't around, we were
> > blamed for everything, which was anything. This is a woman who
> > every chance she had would call the police on me to try to
> > have me charged with something. This was when she couldn't
> > beat me anymore because I was a little older, but she still
> > had to have control over me. This was a small town in
> > Newfoundland with a population of 3500 people. So she would
> > have me taken away from my home by the police and I would have
> > nowhere else to go, this was control over me and she knew it.
> > I would have to kiss ass just to have a roof over my head. (Of
> > course this was after my father had passed away. He was afraid
> > of her but he would never have let her do this to me.) This is
> > a woman that had me put in jail during Christmas and New
> > Year's when I was very young. This was for trying to teach my
> > niece her homework, she said I had to ask her. Education was
> > not something she was concerned about for her kids. All she
> > wanted was when I had turned 15 was to get out of school and
> > go to work in the fish plant so I could pay my way every week.
> > She would loan me $20 and I would have to repay her $40 plus
> > rent. This woman has a lot of problems. I do not hate her
> > because she is my mother but I do not like her as a person.
> > > I finally got out and moved to Ontario, uneducated with no
> > direction, but out. I really haven't had any contact with her
> > since then and have not seen her since. I think because of all
> > these things and many more which as happened to me and things
> > I saw that had happened to other members of my family is the
> > reason I have a hard time to meet anyone, develop a
> > relationship, or hold down a job. I'm always lost, I don't
> > know if I should see a doctor or if it's just me, I'm lost.
> > The way I am now is the way the rest also is, it must be
> > because of her, take a look, it has to be. I'm writing this
> > letter now so that this woman and the others who knew what was
> > happening but did nothing face up and admit what happened. All
> > of my family have the same problems and the same memories
> > which affect our lives. This is something I have never spoken
> > about with anyone, but now maybe it's time. Hopefully, this
> > will help me start to became a real person a whole person.
> > Please do what you know is the right thing to do.
> > > Sincerely yours,
> > > Allan Prior
> > >
> > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > July 24, 2001
> > > My name is Byron Prior. I'm the oldest living of these 12
> > children. I not only had to live through my abuse but, watch
> > as the rest of my sisters and brothers were abused and raped.
> > Three of my sisters raped, 1 by a grandfather at the age of 4,
> > a second raped by T. Alex Hickman, Justice Minister, at age
> > 11. A third sister raped by a young man in our home town. The
> > legal system are only concerned with keeping all this under
> > cover and protect themselves. Please people, if you have a
> > heart, walk one day in my shoes and tell me you would just
> > forget because these bureaucrats say so. I have copies of my
> > full statement on all the details of what happened, which I
> > gave the R.C.M.P. on March 9, 1998, 52.5 hours at their
> > office. I will send it to anyone who will send me an E-mail
> > address. I will never forget the abuse, shame, and persecution
> > to this day, from the animals who did this to my family.
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Byron Prior
> > >
> > > On April 3, 2000, the second in command of the R.C.M.P. for
> > all of Canada, said in an interview from Toronto, organized
> > crime totally controls Canadian businesses and affects every
> > Canadians daily life, from video arcades to laundry mats. This
> > is very sad, here in Canada we are lost and we all need help.
> > Here in Newfoundland our Dictator, T. Alex Hickman, has had
> > his hands in our Political and legal systems from 1957 to this
> > very day. His family and friends control everything, including
> > whether my family and I ever get justice for what was done to
> > us in the town of Grand Bank. We've tried for justice at least
> > 9 times from Police, Social Services, Clergy and Family
> > members. This last attempt started on March 9/98. On July
> > 24/98 an RCMP officer told me they have enough information to
> > charge our mother and one boyfriend now.
> > >
> > >
> > > On February 25/00 an RCMP officer said he was recommending the
> > justice department should lay 35 charges against several
> > people. This officer was taken off the case, transferred from
> > Grand Bank to St. John's custom's department position and his
> > wife transferred to a new position in St. John's with
> > Provincial social services department. To this day August
> > 20/01 only 3 charges are laid against one mentally delayed
> > boyfriend and no trial date set yet . The trial date has been
> > set for April 29/02. On April 5/02 I spoke with the Crown
> > Attorney, Ted Cardwell, he said the only two witnesses for the
> > trial on our behalf will be my sister Joan and me. The
> > investigating officer John Warr of the RCMP is not necessary,
> > my therapist of two years is not necessary, my social worker
> > from victim services is not necessary and my sister Joan's
> > therapist is not necessary. It seems to me like the final
> > verdict has already been decided and again for the victims
> > there is no justice.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Court did not proceed on April 29/02. It was found by the
> > Judge and both attorneys that they did not have an unbiased
> > jury toward the defendant and another attempt to find a jury
> > in this same town will be made again on May 21/02. This is
> > also the home town of my family and I and I asked the Crown
> > Attorney, at the beginning of this trial, if it could be held
> > in a neutral town to be fair to my family and I. If you have
> > read some of the statements in this web site guest book you
> > can understand why I made this request. It seems all
> > consideration is given for the defendant but none for the
> > victims. The R.C.M.P. freely admit that they are in position
> > of 3 statements I had given them about the abuse in our family
> > when I was a child but for some reason will not make these
> > statements available to me or my lawyer. I would like you to
> > read this request made of the R.C.M.P. by a local law firm on
> > >
> > > May 16/01 via fax (279-1871):
> > > Royal Canadian Mounted Police
> > > Marystown Detachment
> > > Marystown, Nfld.
> > > Attention: Constable Jackie Remillard
> > > Dear Constable Remillard:: Re: Our Client - Mr Byron Prior
> > Further to the above and to our various past communications,
> > most particularly our letter of February 16/ 01, despite the
> > passage of several months we have yet to receive the
> > information requested at that time. As it is ordinarily a
> > straightforward matter to obtain, with that person's consent,
> > the statements of a complainant we are at a loss to explain to
> > our client why our request has not been answered to date. We
> > would, therefore, appreciate your early attention to this
> > matter and look forward to the immediate receipt of the
> > requested material. Trusting the above to be satisfactory.
> > > Yours very truly
> > > BUDDEN, MORRIS
> > > GEOFFREY E. BUDDEN
> > >
> > >
> > > Questions for John Warr, R.C.M.P. lead investigator who will
> > no longer speak with me personally.
> > > 1. Why would you say most of the R.C.M.P. Officers and Doctors
> > in my case are retired and you couldn't find them now. Don't
> > any of them get a pension? What address is that sent to?
> > > 2. Why did you tell two witnesses who volunteered information
> > - a lady from Garnish and a man from Fortune, that this case
> > would be very messy and they should think very hard before
> > volunteering information, you would contact them in a couple
> > of days for an appointment. They both changed their minds
> > about witnessing.
> > > 3. Why didn't you question witnesses whose names you were
> > given at the beginning of this case four years ago. People in
> > Ontario and people 15 minutes from your office. One witness
> > #85 & 86 in my guest book on my website and others who have
> > telephoned me.
> > > 4. Why did you go to a Grand Bank business man, who had no
> > information about this case, more than 2 years ago and tell
> > him there was a very messy case coming up soon involving my
> > family and I. Then immediately after you were transferred and
> > only 3 charges laid against one person. 5. Why is the lead
> > investigator not a necessary witness in this case? You
> > investigated and recommended the charges be laid, you must
> > have some information regarding this case.
> > > 6. Why in 2 years of your investigation, did you not once
> > approach or ask Harriett Prior one question at all?
> > > After all these years of reporting to the R.C.M.P. can
> > everyone see why I have to inform the public myself. IT'S A
> > DISGRACE.
> > >
> > > On April 19/00 our Prime Minister is in the Middle East
> > fighting for Basic Human rights. Here in your own house Mr.
> > Prime Minister we need Basic Human Rights also. We are now
> > fighting in Afganistan for the rights of abused and persecuted
> > people, most of whom are women, please allow my family and I
> > some personal rights and dignity here in Canada. If anyone
> > requires more info I have statements to Police, names and
> > positions of all persons involved and letters from family
> > members on what has happened to our dysfunctional family.
> > Please contact us at
> > byronprior13@aol.com or call (709) 834-9822 Byron Prior. After
> > you view our site please tell your friends and e-mail
> > pm@pm.gc.ca, or,
> > > paul@paulmartin.ca and tell him,
> > Justice for The Prior family of Grand Bank NFLD. is long past
> > due, you need to give them Justice today. Visit their website
> > at
> > >
> > http://maxpages.com/sexualabuse I Look forward to living with
> > Democracy, Freedom and Justice for my family also, here in
> > Canada.
> > > For additional informational pages go to the links at the top
> > left of our homepage. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,
> > >


https://brenansfh.com/tribute/details/24286/Lorraine-Shannon/obituary.html

Obituary of Lorraine Marie Shannon

It is with great sadness that the family of Lorraine Shannon announces her passing on Easter Monday, April 13, 2020, at the Saint John Regional Hospital. Born on June 6, 1947 in Saint John, she was a daughter of the late Hugh Peter and Margaret Mary (Emery) Whalen and step-daughter of Josephine Julia (Riley) Whalen.

Lorraine graduated from St. Vincent’s High School (1965), and the University of New Brunswick (B.A. Double Honours in Political Science and Sociology, 1969). On graduation, she moved to Halifax, NS and began working at the CIBC as an acting assistant manager in the Dartmouth branch. She then joined the Atlantic Regional Office for training as a Credit Officer. Lorraine was married to Vincent Thomas Wakim Shannon (deceased May 2016) in August of 1971 and was the sole supporter of the couple until her husband graduated from Dalhousie’s dental school in 1972 and they returned to Saint John. 

In 1973, Lorraine became CIBC's first female Branch Manager at the then new Prince Edward Square Branch where she remained until 1976. This branch also ended up being one of the few all female branches in Canada. In 1978, Lorraine moved to Boston for two years while her husband attended Tufts Periodontal program. After Vince’s graduation, the family moved to Dartmouth in 1980. Finally, in 1982, the family made one last move. Vince established a periodontal practice in Saint John and Lorraine became the Office Manager, applying her banking skills and managing his books until he retired in 2013.

Throughout, Lorraine made lifelong friendships that she deeply cherished and she was always there for those who needed her. Lorraine was meticulous and detail oriented, known for her lists and literary wit. From crafting her own writing to editing the work of others, she was a communicator at heart who enjoyed participating in efforts to support the Saint John Community. She was also a life-long member of the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception Parish of Saint John and held her faith as a source of strength in difficult times.

Despite the recent health obstacles she faced, she kept her good humour and quick wit as well as a sincere appreciation for the friends that supported her. Lorraine valued her lifelong bond with her husband Vincent, and was dedicated to her family. Her children are happy that they are once again reunited.

Surviving are children, Lesley (Steve Wilton), Vancouver; Matthew (Emilie Gelinas), Ottawa; her grandson Zachary, Vancouver; sister Carole (the late Derek Hamilton), Ottawa; brother Emery (Barb Whalen); step-mother Josephine; as well as several nieces, nephews and extended family.

In light of the current health situation, a Mass for Christian Burial and a Celebration of Lorraine’s life will be held at a future date so that we may say an appropriate farewell. To help make this possible, we would invite you to contact Brenan’s Funeral Home, 111 Paradise Row, Saint John (634-7424) and share relevant contact information so that we can notify you with further details. Interment will take place in St. Joseph’s Cemetery. For those who wish, remembrances may be made to the Cathedral Restoration Fund or to a charity of one’s choice. Online condolences may be placed at www.BrenansFH.com


https://www.sfu.ca/sfunews/stories/2017/03/sfu-engineering-science-professor-lesley-shannon-named-diversity.html


Lelsley Shannon
Lesley Shannon, professor of engineering science, is devoted to supporting and encouraging women in science, technology, engineering and math (STEM). She is currently the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada's Chair for Women in Science and Engineering for B.C. and Yukon.

SFU engineering science professor Lesley Shannon named diversity champion

March 30, 2017

By Caitlin Dawson
Simon Fraser University engineering science professor Lesley Shannon has been honoured with a 2017 Wendy McDonald Award in the Diversity Champion category.

Presented by the Greater Vancouver Board of Trade in memory of late Canadian business icon Wendy McDonald, these awards shine a spotlight on outstanding leaders from businesses and organizations across Metro Vancouver.

As the current Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada Chair for Women in Science and Engineering for B.C. and Yukon, Shannon has spearheaded a variety of initiatives to support and encourage females in science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) fields.

From reaching out to female high school students, to helping create inclusive professional development opportunities, Shannon’s overarching goal is to identify, and help eliminate, barriers for women to pursue STEM careers and leadership roles.

Throughout her career at SFU, Shannon has been recognized as a passionate proponent of gender diversity in STEM and an inspirational teacher with a talent for leading by example.

She previously served as faculty advisor for SFU’s Women in Engineering (WiE) group, and has acted as conference chair for Creating Connections since 2013.This two-day event brings together students, researchers and industry leaders of all genders and backgrounds to discuss the future of women in STEM.

In 2014, Shannon received The Association of Professional Engineers and Geoscientists of British Columbia (APEGBC)’s Teaching Award of Excellence for her dedication to preparing the next generation of engineering talent.

"I love to learn new things and am motivated by the creation of 'highly qualified personnel' as opposed to products,” said Shannon in a Greater Vancouver Board of Trade Q & A interview.

“I'm a big believer in the idea that success belongs to the team and failure belongs to me. Helping people grow and achieve the best version of themselves is not only extremely rewarding but results in better outcomes from the team."

Shannon received the award, alongside five other recipients from different categories, at the third-annual Wendy McDonald Awards ceremony at TELUS Garden, Vancouver, on March 29, 2017.



http://www.sfu.ca/engineering/faculty-and-staff/faculty/lesley_shannon.html

Lesley Shannon

Professor, School of Engineering Science
P.Eng.
NSERC Chair for Women in Science and Engineering for BC and Yukon

Education

Ph.D., Applied Science, University of Toronto, Canada 2006
M.A.Sc., Applied Science, University of Toronto, Canada, 2001
B.Sc., Electrical Engineering–Computer Option, University of New Brunswick, Canada, 1999

Research interests

  • Computing system design, including reconfigurable computing and application-specific architectures, design methodologies, and programming models
  • Operating Systems for asymmetric/heterogeneous multicore systems
  • Scalable FPGA Computer Aided Design Tools
  • Reconfigurable Digital Microfluidics

Teaching interests

  • Computing Architecture and System Design
  • Digital Logic
  • Real Time and Embedded Systems

Contact:

Tel:778.782.7672
Email:lshannon@ensc.sfu.ca
Fax:778.782.4951  
Office:SFU Burnaby, ASB 8819
Personal webpage:
www.ensc.sfu.ca/~lshannon


http://www.goc411.ca/en/166839/Matthew-Shannon

Matthew Shannon

Matthew Shannonworks as Senior Economist for Finance Canada.
Matthew can be reached at 613-369-9362
First name
Matthew
Last name
Shannon
Title
Senior Economist
Telephone Number
613-369-9362
Alternate Number
Fax Number
Email
Street Address
90 Elgin St. (view on map)
Country
Canada
Province
Ontario
City
Ottawa, Ontario
Postal Code
K1A 0G5
Department
FIN-FIN
Finance Canada
Organization
FSD-DSF
Financial Systems Division


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/05/charter-challenge-filed-against-nls.html



Saturday, 23 May 2020


Charter challenge filed against N.L.'s travel restriction Bill 38

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Replying to @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks come Monday morning Minister John Haggie and the lawyers Cara Zwibel, John Drover and Rosellen Sullivan are gonna figure out that I still alive and paying attention N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/ccnl-challenge-bill-1.5564822



Canadian Civil Liberties Association looking to challenge Bill 38 amendment

Will begin with advocacy before litigation

CBC News· Posted: May 11, 2020 7:46 PM NT


Cara Zwibel is the director the Canadian Civil Liberties Association's Fundamental Freedoms program. (Submitted by the Canadian Civil Liberties Association)

The Canadian Civil Liberties Association plans to challenge the government of Newfoundland and Labrador's amendment to Bill 38 — the Public Health Protection and Promotion Act — calling it unconstitutional.

The controversial amendment was passed in the House of Assembly last Tuesday, giving power to police to detain individuals found in non-compliance with public health orders, with the possibility of removing people who are not primary residents from the province entirely, among many more sweeping powers.

A government public health order issued a week ago prohibited entry to the province to anyone but those who are travelling for work, relocating for work, and primary residents. Some exceptions can be made for those travelling to Newfoundland and Labrador for the purposes of taking care of health needs of a family member. As of Monday nearly 2,000 exemption applications had been filed with the province.

"The basis is that this is a restriction of rights that are protected by the charter, and it's not reasonable or justified," said Cara Zwibel, director of the CCLA's Fundamental Freedoms program.

"There's no evidence that doing this is necessary. The province had in place less strict restrictions previously. The people who did enter the province had to self-isolate for a period. There's no indication that that was inadequate."

The CCLA is a nonprofit organization based in Toronto devoted to the defence of civil liberties and constitutional rights.

Zwibel said the organization is not dismissive of the public health concerns related to travellers entering Newfoundland and Labrador, which, as of Monday, has 14 active cases of COVID-19.
"The question is whether it's achieving the right balance between protecting the public and maintaining the rights that are constitutionally entrenched. They're in our charter for a reason. They're there to make sure that Canadian citizens and permanent residents are supposed to be able to move around the country freely," she said.

"If there is a restriction that is being put in place the government has to demonstrate why it's necessary. So sort of fear and speculation is just not enough in our view. 'Better safe than sorry' doesn't hold up in a court."


Standing by decision

Health Minister John Haggie is standing by the House of Assembly's decision to amend Bill 38.
During Monday's daily COVID-19 briefing Haggie said police officers needed clarity on their role in enforcing public health orders.


Health Minister John Haggie says the amendment to Bill 38 was to clarify the role of law enforcement officers in enforcing public health orders. (Peter Cowan/CBC)

Public health orders issued by government in March saw a fining system implemented under which peace officers could fine individuals $500 up to $2,500, issue a prison sentence of up to six months, or a combination of the two. Similarly, non-essential businesses that are in operation could face fines of $5,000 to $50,000, and owners would be held personally liable and open to individual fines. Fines will also multiply after the first instance.
Since March new orders have been issued, such as the ban on all non-essential travel to the province.

"The Supreme Court itself have referred to the whole constitution act as a living tree that is pruned and grows over time with good case law. So the view from [the Department of Justice and Public Safety] and ourselves, on advice from the law enforcement, peace officers, is that they needed clarity around their role. That clarity was provided. It was debated in the House," said Haggie.

"At the end of the day, the tensions built into that, the way the Constitution and the Charter of Rights is framed, allows for rights to be abridged or reduced only to the extent that is necessary for the greater public good. Whether or not our actions meet that test would be a decision a court would take should someone choose to challenge it."

Zwibel said CCLA is in discussion with local counsel, and will begin advocating for the amendment to be overturned. She said the hope is that will be enough for government to reverse its decision, but the CCLA will bring litigation if necessary.

Read more from CBC Newfoundland and Labrador

With files from On The Go

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/charter-case-bill-38-filed-1.5577349



Charter challenge filed against N.L.'s travel restriction Bill 38

Kim Taylor challenges government after first being denied a visit home for her mother's funeral


CBC News· Posted: May 20, 2020 6:47 PM NT



Lawyer John Drover is representing Kim Taylor in a Charter challenge against the government of Newfoundland and Labrador. (Bruce Tilley/CBC)

The Newfoundland and Labrador government is facing a court challenge over its legislation that controls travel into the province to slow the spread of COVID-19.

Kim Taylor has launched a legal challenge against Bill 38, after she was barred from attending her mother's funeral in early May.

She is backed by lawyer John Drover and defence lawyer Rosellen Sullivan — representing the Canadian Civil Liberties Association — who have filed an application on Taylor's behalf under Section 6, which deals with mobility rights, of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

"Mobility of people is a basic, human right and she has been denied hers and we're all being denied ours," Drover told CBC News on Wednesday.

"We have never had travel restrictions put in place like this. We have some of the strictest in Canada here in Newfoundland and don't really believe that the government of Newfoundland has put the thought into it to make it comply with the charter."


Taylor was denied entry into the province following her mother's death under public health restrictions on travellers to Newfoundland and Labrador. (CBC)

Now that the application is filed, Drover said he and Sullivan will push the court for an early hearing, hoping to have the case heard within the next three days, set filing dates and arrange to hear the argument within the next month.

Damage done

Taylor was eventually given an exemption to travel to the province from her home in Nova Scotia, 11 days after being rejected.

But Taylor said she is mounting this case on principle, and is not seeking any monetary damages. All lawyers are working pro bono, and none of the parties is asking for costs.

Drover said his client's funeral arrangements — including 14 days of self-isolation as required under public health orders — were lost in that 11-day period, and he echoes the idea that this challenge isn't only about Taylor.
"This is not about whether my client can come to Newfoundland. Yes, she can come to Newfoundland now. This is about how anybody in Canada can freely move within Canada," he said.

"It's not right. No province in Canada can shut its borders to Canadian citizens."

Read more from CBC Newfoundland and Labrador

With files from Anthony Germain

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david kirby
I think it was one of Nflds' favourite sons, John Crosbie, who said the Charter would provide work for lawyers for ever 













David News 
Governments top priority is to ensure the safety of the citizens. The Charter defines a set of rights that we as Canadians are entitled to.
But it also provides very broad powers to the elected officials in the case of an emergency e.g pandemic that they can temporarily suspend some of these rights for the greater good.


Andy Rooney
Reply to @David News: Define: "greater good"


John Drover
Reply to @David News: Maybe you could point me to that section of the Charter, or some case law that stands for what you say. Because I haven't seen anything that says governments can violate our rights during a pandemic.


David News 
Reply to @John Drover: Look up quarantine and emergency


Terry Teak 
Reply to @David News: here come the google lawyers.....


David News 
Reply to @Terry Teak: Ok lets get more basic, where does the charter state or imply that 1 individual has the rights that would nullify a) the welfare of the majority or to unnecessarily put them at risk, or b) disallow the government in the case of an emergency to temporarily suspend some of the charter rights.





























Glenda Whitford
This is just the beginning, just watch over the next months there will be countless numbers of lawsuits of all kinds every day all across Canada.


Ralph Green
Reply to @Glenda Whitford: yup all kinds of ambulance chasers in Canada:(


John Drover
Reply to @Ralph Green: There are no damages asked for in this case. Not even court costs. Even the lawyers are working for free.

































Eileen jacques
N.L. is not the only province with closed borders and also have refused to enter for a funeral. Most virus cases in NL was in a funeral home. And I understood the funeral was a later date.


Barbara Shortall 
Reply to @Eileen jacques: Well, when she wins her case those borders will have to be opened too because closing them is unconstitutional. That's the whole point of her challenge.


Ralph Green 
Reply to @Barbara Shortall: she’s just wasting her time if the province is in a state of emergency.


Eileen jacques 
Reply to @Barbara Shortall: "unconstitutional" proof. We are in a pandemic here in case you have been sleeping through it.


Barbara Shortall  
Reply to @Ralph Green:
That's what's being put to the test, whether a provincial state of emergency can over ride the Charter. This lady has a very good case.


Ralph Green 
Reply to @Barbara Shortall: no she doesn’t, you think she’s the first one to be denied excess to a province? As far as I’m concerned she’s a threat to other ppl and was dealt with appropriately, and she was.


John Drover
Reply to @Eileen jacques: Our rights and freedoms are not suspended because of a pandemic. 
 

























William Toope
Maybe Newfoundland should sue or charge them if more cases of covid arise and people die


Randolph Graf
Reply to @William Toope: Yes indeed,,, a sad, sad attempt at a money-grab at a time when this is the last thing we need,,,,she and the sleazebag lawyer should be ashamed of themselves,,,,,


John Drover 
Reply to @Randolph Graf: I will say it again, Randolph. The lawyers are working for free and the application does not ask for any money, not even court costs.


Barbara Shortall
Reply to @Randolph Graf: There is no "money grab". She is not looking for money. She is looking for the restoration of her right and every citizen's right to travel freely within the country according to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. And the lawyers are working pro bono, which means for FREE. No. Money. Involved.


























Tommy de James
She is looking for a big payout from the Provincial Government.


Michael Hinks 
Reply to @Tommy de James: A lawsuit is not always about money.


Randolph Graf  
Reply to @Michael Hinks: No, but 99 per cent of the time, and this time,, it is,,,


Dave Walker 
Reply to @Tommy de James: Actually it more about holding the province and government to account so that in the future they cannot just arbitrarily ignore the charter of rights and people freedoms of the country as the feel fit to do so.


John Drover
Reply to @Randolph Graf: I can assure you this one is not about money. There is no claim for damages in the application. The lawyers are working pro bono.


Barbara Shortall 
Reply to @Tommy de James:
There is no money involved. Zero to her or the lawyers.


John Drover
Reply to @Barbara Shortall: That is correct, Barbara. Thank you.


Barbara Shortall  
Reply to @John Drover:
Most welcome, John.


Randolph Graf 
Reply to @Dave Walker: A pandemic which kills trumps the "charter of rights",, one would think,, ,at least one concerned about the common good, rather than "me and my rights',,,, jeez, don't the "ME" society ever tire of it,,


























Tim Skut
Very sad for Kim Taylor's situation. :( Unfortunately, we know what happened to our covid rate after someone came home for a funeral in March. However, Drover saying "This is about how anybody in Canada can freely move within Canada" is just disgusting opportunism and he's helping himself to Kim's money. What a revolting position.


John Drover
Reply to @Tim Skut: Well, Tim, I am working pro bono. That's short for pro bono publico which means "for the public good" or, in layperson's terms, free.


John Drover
Reply to @Randolph Graf: You're such a sweetheart, Randolph.


Randolph Graf
Reply to @John Drover: Well, if the shoe fits,,,, don't shoot the messenger,,etc.,,, etc..,,,






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Rosellen Sullivan was born in St. John’s. She graduated from University of Ottawa in 1995 with a Master’s of Criminology and from Dalhousie Law School in 1998. Rosellen worked with the Department of Justice until 2006. She was Junior Inquiry Counsel to Commissioner Antonio Lamer at the Lamer Inquiry which examined three wrongful convictions in Newfoundland and Labrador. Her work on the Inquiry led to a keen interest criminal defence law, which she pursued in 2006 when she joined Robert Simmonds, QC. She is also a former member of the Board of Regents at Memorial University.



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  • 2008 – Bachelor of Laws from Dalhousie University
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 06:40:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Oh My Could somebody within the CCLA actually be ethical?
To: oldmaison@yahoo.com, danfour@myginch.com, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca,
"dan.ahlstrand" ,
woodsideb@fredericton.ca, Arthur Taylor ,
occupyfredericton , "Jacques.Poitras"

Cc: David Amos ,
david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, mail@ccla.org,
thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com, Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
jgraham@amlnet.com, together@jordangraham.ca,
peter.dauphinee@gmail.com, danfour@myginch.com, evelyngreene@live.ca,
wearefredup@gmail.com, mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com,
acampbell@ctv.ca, mckeen.randy@gmail.com



--- On Fri, 2/3/12, Cara Zwibel wrote:


From: Cara Zwibel
Subject: RE: Attn Cara Zwibel I called the CCLA and tried to tell you
people about this email before you talked to the CBC etc
To: "'David Amos'"
Date: Friday, February 3, 2012, 6:02 AM

Dear Mr. Amos,
Thank you for your email.  I am not currently in the office and will
not be for the rest of the day, but feel free to call me next week if
you’d like.  As you know, we are aware of the situation in Fredericton
as well as the legal cases where s. 301 of the Criminal Code has been
held to violate the Charter.  The information you have provided about
prior use of the section in Fredericton is helpful.
Thank you for contacting the CCLA and should you wish to speak to me
directly, please get in touch next week.
Sincerely,
Cara


Cara Faith Zwibel, LL.B., LL.M.
Director, Fundamental Freedoms Program/ Directrice, programme libertés
fondamentales

Canadian Civil Liberties Association/ Association canadienne des
libertés civiles
360 Bloor St. West, Suite 506 / 360 rue Bloor Ouest, Bureau 506
Toronto, ON M5S 1X1
tel: 416 363 0321  ext. 255
email: czwibel@ccla.org
web: www.ccla.org
twitter: @cancivlib



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From: David Amos [mailto:myson333@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 8:38 AM
To: czwibel@ccla.org; oldmaison@yahoo.com; terry.seguin; Robert. Jones
Cc: MacKnightb; david.raymond.amos@gmail.com; mail@ccla.org;
thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com; Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca;
jgraham@amlnet.com; together@jordangraham.ca;
peter.dauphinee@gmail.com; danfour@myginch.com; evelyngreene@live.ca;
wearefredup@gmail.com; mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com;
acampbell@ctv.ca; mckeen.randy@gmail.com
Subject: Attn Cara Zwibel I called the CCLA and tried to tell you
people about this email before you talked to the CBC etc

For the record the CCLA would not allow me to speak to anyone so i
will call you directly after I click send.

Cara Zwibel, Director, Fundamental Freedoms Program - czwibel@ccla.org
or 416-363-0321 ext 255

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc34xAjq-_I&list=UUVftTJcoljDpNQR81drXb4g&index=1&feature=plcp


Clearly Chief Macknight recieved it before the CCLA entered the fray EH?.

--- On Wed, 2/1/12, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Oh my Chucky what monumental Bullshitters you and Danny Boy are
To: oldmaison@yahoo.com, danfour@myginch.com, evelyngreene@live.ca,
wearefredup@gmail.com, thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com,
mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com, acampbell@ctv.ca,
mckeen.randy@gmail.com
Cc: "terry.seguin" ,
thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com, MacKnightb@fredericton.ca,
Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, jgraham@amlnet.com,
together@jordangraham.ca, peter.dauphinee@gmail.com
Date: Wednesday, February 1, 2012, 12:47 PM

Wednesday, February 01, 2012

The last time Section 301 of the Criminal Code for used in Fredericton
was around 1902!!!

Someone told me this story - Two editors of the Daily Gleaner wrote a
bad editorial against the Chief of Police of the Day. The Chief got
upset, He arrested and jailed the editors over night. That was their
punishment. Shouldn't this be setting a precedent??? From the Editors
of the Daily Gleaner to the Blogger!!! Hey? We're making
headway!!...:P By the way? I found this little story minutes ago -
Click below - Libel section in Criminal Code unconstitutional: N.L.
court


Posted by Charles LeBlanc at 10:44:00 AM

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

The was a defamatory libel case in Moncton a few years ago. it
resulted in a guilty verdict. It's not as are are you claim.
11:46 AM, February 01, 2012


Charles LeBlanc said...

criminal or civil???
11:49 AM, February 01, 2012


Anonymous said...

We all know that the Gleaner isn't an unbiased paper and that Irving
has it's hands in what the editors publish!
12:54 PM, February 01, 2012


Dan F said...

Are Canadian courts so complicit with the police that there are no
hungry lawyers willing to sue on your behalf for false arrest and
malicious prosecution?
1:09 PM, February 01, 2012


stu student law optional said...

Great searching Charles that will be a significant precident to change
legal landscape to something sensible against this silly libel claim
by FREDERICTON POLICE FORCE bullies.
1:09 PM, February 01, 2012


Anonymous said...

sigh...rolling my eyes...
3:01 PM, February 01, 2012
Try denying the rest of the email I Double Dog Dare Ya Frenchy. You
know as well as that there no need for you to bullshit about
researching anything. I proved to leagions of people long ago that you
Fake Left wackos in Fat fred City knew all about Section 301 ala Byron
Prior and my assistance to him since 2004. Well Chucky baby what YOU
have to worry about is Section 300. It has not been found
unconstitutional. That is the law that got Byron Prior locked up
DUMMY. The CROWN has LOTS of time to figure that one out before they
lay chges on April 20th.

GET IT YET FRENCHY???

If not why not seek the legal advice of your know it all Blogging Butt
Buddy Mikey Baby Archibald (You he is remember the sneaky dude who
gave you your first digital camera the year after I gave you your
first computer in frint of the LEG in 2004) he ws always worried about
tenants rights just like Andre Murray is now.  It appearsto me  that
Mindless Mikey does not seem to wish to comment in your blog anymore
or are you blocking him just like you did with mean old me years ago?

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html

BTW I saved every video  thatyou posted of Jenn Wambolt in YOUTUBE
whom you and Norrad interveiwed BEFORE you delete again or opt make
more blogs. I will lay odds that my converstions with Evelyn Green and
Andre Murray last week caused you and Norrad to go visit Mrs Wambolt
and make your interview and compose a special story N'sy Pas Chucky
Baby?

http://thepurplevioletpressnb.blogspot.com/2012/01/offline-rest-of-week-investigating.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYr28zSf9UI&list=UUVftTJcoljDpNQR81drXb4g&index=3&feature=plcp

Nedd I say why don't you evilblogggers tell the truth for a change or
do the Fat Fred City Finest and the RCMP a favour and eat your own
bullshit and die? Est assured I will use YOUR BULLSIT against them
when I deem the timing is just right.

--- On Sun, 1/29/12, David Amos wrote:


> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos
> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:28:07 -0400
> Subject: RE Sec 301 For the PUBLIC RECORD now that the Fat Fred City
> Finest have evil Chucky Leblanc's Computer
> To: jgraham@amlnet.com, together@jordangraham.ca,
> peter.dauphinee@gmail.com, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
> , thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com,
> occupyfredericton@gmail.com, WEAREFREDUP@gmail.com,
> brother.chao@gmail.com, markandcaroline@gmail.com, tim4nm@gmail.com,
> "Jacques.Poitras" ,
> brent.mazerolle@timestranscript.com, "mclaughlin.heather"
> , acampbell@ctv.ca, nmoore
> , dale.carruthers@sunmedia.ca,
> maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca
> Cc: johnkelly475@yahoo.ca, evelyngreene@live.ca, Barry Winters
> , "Ken.Zielke" ,
> "Barry.Shaw" , "bob.rae"
> , "robert.trevors"
> , toewsv1 , MacKnightb
> , woodsideb ,
> grahamj@fredericton.ca, eic@theaq.net
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2012/01/24/nb-leblanc-reaction-629.html
>
> http://www.theaq.net/2012/being-charles-leblanc/-10080
>
> I see that the CBC etc are supporting Chucky Baby bigtime while he is
> supporting his blogging buddy Andre but not the ladies such as Evelyn
> Greene and Jenn Wambolt EH?
>
> http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.com/2012/01/another-victim-from-fredericton-gestapo.html
>
> They can never deny that you, Chucky, his cyber butt buddies, all your
> cop buddies and I know a lot about section 301 and  CRIMINAL Libel EH
> Mr Baconfat?
>
> EVEN THE VERY CORRUPT CBC and vverbody and his dog knows that you and
> Chucky's many cyber friends have been calling me a pedophile for
> years.
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2009/09/david-amos-liar.html
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2hlv5M6V5Q&feature=plcp&context=C3459e78UDOEgsToPDskJp_jxblg8-qi-TV63wVfxq
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/3000115/Byron-Prior-judgement
>
> http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.com/2009/10/byron-prior-from-newfoundland-is.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/05/nfld-whistleblower-dodges-libel-charge.html
>
> http://nbpolitico.blogspot.com/2007/11/pick-lane.html
>
> http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=5YoYexTqY8o
>
> http://davidamos.blogspot.com/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>
> From: Evelyn Greene
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:09:56 -0300
> Subject: FW: GNB harassing public
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com
>
>
> Gentlemen:  Can you try and get me some press coverage and I have lots
> to say.  Jenn Wambolt was provoked, then the Sheriffs and police said
> she uttered threats and her lawyer quit just hours before the hearing.
>  You call this Justice.  Evelyn Greene
>
> From: David Amos
> Subject: Re: FW: Message to Angie re confirmation that David Banks of
> the Dispatch 911 at the Fredericton City Police said he sent the 911
> audio evidence to the Crown
> To: "Evelyn Greene" , "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
> , "thepurplevioletpress"
>
> Cc: "We are Fred up" , andremurraynow@gmail.com
> Date: Saturday, January 28, 2012, 2:38 PM
>
>
> http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.com/2012/01/another-victim-from-fredericton-gestapo.html
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r20grqEq4O0&context=C359aa54ADOEgsToPDskLn7jsBsjMNWCHYGvg_AydA
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/78095644/January-11-2012-Affidavit-Andre-Murray-Jurisdiction-Motion
>
> http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.com/2011/10/jenn-wambolt-protesting-rcmp-brutally.html
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yVzq-_3uP0&feature=plcp&context=C38cba40UDOEgsToPDskIRYudpd1ZVKUe48Ey7z9Sa
>
> http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.com/2011/10/evelyn-greene-problems-with-racist.html
>
> On 1/28/12, David Amos wrote:
>> No special treatment when police face charges: lawyer
>> Craig Babstock (Times & Transcript) – With more than 20 years
>> experience as a Crown prosecutor, Luc Labonté knows how some people
>> will react when they hear an RCMP officer had his assault charged
>> stayed earlier this week. He knows that some will have the perception
>> this individual no longer faces a charge because he’s a police
>> officer.
>>
>> “Unfortunately, we’ll never be able to change those people’s minds,”
>> says Labonté.
>>
>> But New Brunswick’s director of Public Prosecutions Services wants to
>> assure the public that people who are charged with a crime are all
>> treated the same, no matter if they are a Mountie, a plumber or a
>> newspaper reporter.
>>
>> “Our system is based on evidence, not on someone’s profession,” says
>> the prosecutor.
>>
>> The case in question involved an accusation a Mountie committed a
>> summary assault against his spouse in December and was supposed to go
>> to trial in Moncton provincial court on Tuesday. Instead, the Crown
>> asked for a stay of proceedings, saying the request came from the head
>> office in Fredericton, which the judge granted. Head office gave no
>> reason for the request, beyond saying the file was reviewed and it was
>> determined that it was not appropriate to proceed with a charge at
>> this time.
>>
>> Knowing the public is quick to scrutinize cases involving a police
>> officer, Labonté agreed to talk about the procedure that’s in place in
>> cases where a police officer is charged, in an attempt to reassure the
>> public there is no bias, either for or against an officer.
>>
>> In this particular case, an RCMP officer investigated the RCMP officer
>> who was accused and eventually laid the charge against him in court.
>> That investigator told the Times & Transcript earlier this week that
>> his work was reviewed by officers from a non-RCMP police force in the
>> province.
>>
>> Labonté says while it’s preferable not to have officers from the same
>> police force investigate one another, this particular investigation
>> was independently reviewed by two Crown prosecutors. New Brunswick is
>> what’s known as a “pre-screening province,” meaning that the Crown
>> reviews charges and approves them before they are laid in court. The
>> director says no prosecutor deals with files involving police officers
>> from their own area.
>>
>> “If I’m a Moncton prosecutor and they bring me a file about a Codiac
>> RCMP member, I would immediately not look at that file and send it to
>> head office,” says Labonté. “If a Moncton prosecutor said no to a
>> charge for a Moncton police officer, it would look bad.”
>>
>> The head office finds a prosecutor in the province who has not had
>> dealings with that police officer. Because Mounties are frequently
>> transferred, they also check where that person has been located in the
>> past so there’s no conflict with the Crown assigned to the file.
>>
>> During his career in Moncton, Labonté took on files involving police
>> officers in other parts of the province of whom he had no knowledge,
>> which allowed him to treat each case like any other file.
>>
>> “We want to make sure they don’t get any special treatment or treated
>> more harshly than any other person,” he says. “We ensure the threshold
>> required to prosecute someone is met.”
>>
>> A common misperception about Crown prosecutors is that they are out to
>> register convictions, but that’s not the case. As a sign in the lobby
>> of the Crown’s office in the Moncton Law Courts says, the goal is to
>> present the facts and let the judge or jury decide guilt.
>>
>> “We are to be an unbiased presenter of the facts, we’re not there to
>> seek convictions,” he says.
>>
>> Labonté says cases are constantly reviewed leading up to a trial and
>> there are many reasons why a stay may be sought. For example a witness
>> may disappear, a person can change their story, new evidence can be
>> discovered, or a new person reviewing the file may have a different
>> opinion whether or not it should proceed.
>>
>> While Labonté can’t discuss the specifics of the Moncton case from
>> this week, he says he reviewed the file and recommended the case not
>> go to trial. That recommendation went to his deputy minister, who
>> agreed. In cases where the Crown requests a stay of proceedings, it
>> has a year to decide if it wants to lay the charge again.
>>
>>
>> On 1/27/12, David Amos wrote:
>>> Ms Greene your lawyer and the Attorney General did not respond I
>>> strongly sugggest that you print this document ASAP
>>>
>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
>>>
>>> Check this out
>>>
>>> http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.com/2012/01/bloggers-treated-like-royality-at-2012.html
>>>
>>> Need I say more?
>>>
>>> On 1/26/12, David Amos wrote:
>>>> Ms Greene
>>>>
>>>> I just got off the phone with Luc labonte's office. Perhaps your
>>>> lawyer should talk to me ASAP
>>>>
>>>> Veritas Vincit
>>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>> 902 800 0369
>>>>
>>>> On 1/25/12, Evelyn Greene wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Leo, this is unreal.  Mr. Labonte is the Director of Public
>>>>> Prosecutions;
>>>>> therefore, has a duty to ensure the Regional Director, Hilary Drain
>>>>> plays
>>>>> by
>>>>> the rules and regulations.  I am forwarding to you a press release
>>>>> which
>>>>> was
>>>>> in the Moncton Times on Friday, October 21, 2011, wherein Mr. Labonte
>>>>> was
>>>>> quoted on or about the 12th paragraph:  "  "We ensure the threshold
>>>>> required
>>>>> to prosecute someone is met."  Who does he mean by we if he cannot
>>>>> control
>>>>> the actions of the Regional Prosecutor to act without bias.  My email
>>>>> clearly revealed the crown is deliberately withholding evidence.  IN
>>>>> THE
>>>>> THIRD PARAGRAPH OF THIS MEDIA REPORT, LABONTE SAYS:  "OUR SYSTEM IS
>>>>> BASED
>>>>> ON
>>>>> EVIDENCE,......"   WOULD YOU PLEASE ASK MR. LABONTE WHAT SYSTEM HILARY
>>>>> DRAIN
>>>>> IS OPERATING FROM BECAUSE MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN NOTHING SHORT OF
>>>>> CROWN
>>>>> MISCONDUCT.   MR. RUSSOMANNO, AS PER YOUR ADVICE, I WILL CEASE FROM
>>>>> ASKING
>>>>> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PROSECUTION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOLLOWING UP ON
>>>>> RIGHT
>>>>> TO INFORMATION REQUEST.  I AM GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU REPRESENT ME.
>>>>> THANK
>>>>> YOU. EVELYN GREENE
>>>>>  From: Luc.LaBonte@gnb.ca
>>>>> To: evelyngreene@live.ca
>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:51:28 -0400
>>>>> Subject: RE:  Message to Angie re confirmation that David Banks of the
>>>>> Dispatch 911 at the Fredericton City Police said he sent the 911 audio
>>>>> evidence to the Crown
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ms. Greene, As I have stated to you repeatedly, the issues of
>>>>> disclosure
>>>>> are
>>>>> to be dealt by the Regional Fredericton office. Should the Crown fail
>>>>> to
>>>>> comply with its obligation to disclose you have the right to request
>>>>> relief
>>>>> from the Court pursuant to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. For
>>>>> your
>>>>> information, Mr. Robert Murray is a retired Director of Public
>>>>> Prosecutions
>>>>> who is hired from time to time to assist the short staffed Fredericton
>>>>> office. This person is beyond reproach and has not acted unethically.
>>>>> Prosecutors are permitted to speak to defendants. If you do not wish
>>>>> to
>>>>> speak to a prosecutor, that is your right. In closing, your continued
>>>>> attempts to argue your case through e-mails and correspondence are not
>>>>> the
>>>>> appropriated medium. I understand your frustrations with the judicial
>>>>> system, but nonetheless, that is where you should make your arguments.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you are successful, you can then request the appropriate remedy.  I do
>>>>> not
>>>>> intend to embark in an exchange of e-mails to discuss your file.
>>>>> Please
>>>>> argue your issues in court, where they belong. Luc J. LabontéAssistant
>>>>> Deputy Attorney General (Public Prosecutions Services)Sous-procureur
>>>>> général
>>>>> adjoint (Service des poursuites publiques) From: Evelyn Greene
>>>>> [mailto:evelyngreene@live.ca]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:31 PM
>>>>> To: LaBonte, Luc (OAG/CPG); Castonguay, Pierre (OAG/CPG);
>>>>> marie.claudeblais@gnb.ca; Forbes, Nancy (OAG/CPG); Alward, David Hon.
>>>>> (PO/CPM); NB911 - Fredericton; Lavigne, Christopher (OAG/CPG); Drain,
>>>>> Hilary
>>>>> (OAG/CPG); Blunston, Darlene (OAG/CPG); Bray, Michael (JUS);
>>>>> russomanno@wsgalaw.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Message to Angie re confirmation that David Banks of the
>>>>> Dispatch 911 at the Fredericton City Police said he sent the 911 audio
>>>>> evidence to the Crown Dear Mr. Labonte:
>>>>>
>>>>> This will confirm my telephone conversation with your secretary,
>>>>> Angie,
>>>>> today.  I asked her to confirm to you and your crown prosecutors that
>>>>> I
>>>>> spoke with the head of the 911 dispatch dept. at Fredericton City
>>>>> Police
>>>>> today, Mr. David Banks, who confirmed to me that he sent the 911 audio
>>>>> evidence to the crown already.  So why have I not received it yet and
>>>>> was
>>>>> told by Ms. Drain's office that there is no disclosure at their office
>>>>> for
>>>>> me at this time?
>>>>>
>>>>> (1)  Please confirm what the status of this report is now?  I am
>>>>> copying
>>>>> Mr.
>>>>> Banks.
>>>>>
>>>>> (2)  A crown prosecutor was in court yesterday on your behalf, a Mr.
>>>>> Murray,
>>>>> who got up during court and asked me to attend outside the room with
>>>>> him.
>>>>> I
>>>>> do not know this man and I believe this is unethical behaviour on his
>>>>> part.
>>>>> Would you please confirm your position on this matter.  He is the 6th
>>>>> crown
>>>>> prosecutor on this case and I am still awaiting information from Mr.
>>>>> Lavigne
>>>>> as to the questions he asked of the police regarding irregularities on
>>>>> the
>>>>> CCTV video and audio given by the police to the Crown's office.  What
>>>>> is
>>>>> the
>>>>> status of this information?  No one can dispute the fact that the CCTV
>>>>> video
>>>>> and audio are tampered evidence, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evelyn Greene
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: john kelly
> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 06:35:31 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: Perhaps John Kelly and I should have a long talk ASAP EH
> Peter Teasdale? 902 800 0369
> To: David Amos
>
> Dear David,
>
> Thank you for your support, this is just a quick update...
>
> I now have limited access to the internet and the Crown is unlawfully trying
> to
> trestrict even that, They attempted to have a section placed in an order
> that I
> have refused to acknowledge or sign. The section is restrictive
> unreasonable and
> is a blatant attempt to stop me from commenting on their false charges and
> providing the truth to anyone.
>
>
> That section states the following (in capitals) " PROVIDED HE DOES NOT POST
> ANY
> COMMENT OR CONTENT ON THEM THAT IS RELEVANT TO THESE PROCEEDINGS -
> SPECIFICALLY
> ANYTHING THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE WWW.ROTTENAPPLES.INFO AND ANY OTHER
> INFORMATION
> REGARDING DETECTIVE MERCER OR DETECTIVE FRIZELL OR OTHER NAMED PEOPLE IN
> CONDITIONS 5 AND 6  ".
>
> My next court date is October the 7th and despite numerous requests
> and promises
> the RCMP cannot provide any evidence to substantiate the allegation and
> charges
> they have laid agains me. Applications will be made to the Court to get them
> to
> comply...more to follow soon.....
>
> truly,  John Kelly
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Amos
> To: johnkelly475@yahoo.ca; peter.teasdale ;
> "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca" ;
> gstirling@parlee.com; smassinon@calgaryherald.com;
> grossea@bennettjones.com;
> bmarks@ctv.ca; Jacques.Poitras ;
> "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
> ; terry.seguin ; danfour
> ; "spinks08@hotmail.com"
> Cc: cps@calgarypolice.ca; Randy.McGinnis@rcmp-grc.gc.ca; Barry Winters
> ; Ken.Zielke
> Sent: Sat, September 18, 2010 10:49:23 AM
> Subject: Perhaps John Kelly and I should have a long talk ASAP EH Peter
> Teasdale? 902 800 0369
>
> What the RCMP claims is pure bullshit need I mention the name of Byron
> Prior to CBC or the mindless bad arsed blogger Chucky leblanc?
>
> http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100917/CGY_website_libel_100917/20100917/?hub=CalgaryHome
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos
> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:57:17 -0300
> Subject: How is your conscience and sense of ethical conduct doing now
> ladies?
> To: Jane.McAloon@bhpbilliton.com, Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com
> Cc: "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca" ,
> "Dean.Buzza"
>
> Jane McAloon (Group Company Secretary) BEc (Hons), LLB, GDipGov, FCIS
> Term of office: Jane McAloon was appointed Group Company Secretary in
> July 2007 and joined the BHP Billiton Group in September 2006 as
> Company Secretary for BHP Billiton Limited.
> Skills and experience: Prior to joining BHP Billiton, Jane McAloon
> held the position of Company Secretary and Group Manager External and
> Regulatory Services in the Australian Gas Light Company. She
> previously held various State and Commonwealth government positions,
> including Director General of the NSW Ministry of Energy and Utilities
> and Deputy Director General for the NSW Cabinet Office, as well as
> working in private legal practice. She is a Fellow of the Institute of
> Chartered Secretaries.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Collins, Susan J (COSEC)"
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:23:12 +1000
> Subject: Email to BHP Billiton Chairman's
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
>
> Please find attached a letter from Mr Jac Nasser, Chairman of BHP
> Billiton
>
> Susan Collins
> Company Secretariat
> BHP Billiton | 180 Lonsdale St | Melbourne Vic 3000 |Australia
> T: +61 3 9609 2654 | M: +61 427 713 994 | F: +61 3 9609 3290
> E: susan.j.collins@bhpbilliton.com
>
> <>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:36 AM
>> To: pr@potashcorp.com; Podwika@potashcorp.com;
>> fosterd@bennettjones.ca; corporate.relations@potashcorp.com;
>> lgold.blcanada@b-l.com; shawn. graham; David.ALWARD@gnb.ca;
>> krisaustin; jacques_poitras@cbc.ca; cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca;
>> tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com; nmiller@corridor.ca;
>> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca; atlbf@nb.aibn.com; akapoor@globeandmail.com;
>> nmacadam@globeandmail.com; vepp@globeandmail.com;
>> potash@mackenziepartners.com; contactus@kingsdaleshareholder.com;
>> rick.hancox; Bernard.LeBlanc; Liebenberg, Andre;
>> mclellana@bennettjones.com; MooreR; danfour; oldmaison@yahoo.com;
>> Harris, Brendan; Dean.Buzza; Gilles. Blinn
>> Cc: wcoady; michel.desneiges@sade-els.org; producers@stu.ca;
>> WaterWarCrimes; Penny Bright; tony; Nasser, Jacques
>> Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
>> of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
>> you people buy much stock in their stock eh?
>>
>> With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
>> issues again about  theexploitation of our natural resources to a
>> bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
>> attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
>> McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
>> did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
>> conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
>> Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
>> now)
>>
>> Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
>> with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
>> sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
>> simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
>> have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>>
>>
>
>
> This message and any attached files may contain information that is
> confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use
> by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or
> the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended
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> that any dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment
> is strictly forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information
> therein. If you have received this message in error please notify the
> sender immediately and delete the message.
>
> With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
> issues again about  theexploitation of our natural resources to a
> bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
> attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
> McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
> did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
> conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
> Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
> now)
>
> Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
> with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
> sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
> simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
> have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> http://www.bennettjones.com/people_item.aspx?person=821
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/
>
>
> http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf
>
> http://www.potashcorp.com/media/POT_2010_Letter_from_BHP_Billiton's_Chairman.pdf
>
> http://www.bhpbilliton.com/bb/aboutUs/companyOverview/ourBoard.jsp
>
> http://www.potashcorp.com/about/management_board/senior_management/podwika/
>
> http://www.corridor.ca/media/2010-press-releases/20100510.html
>
> http://www.bennettjones.com/people_item.aspx?person=712&name=foster&pg=&office=
>
> http://www.robmooremp.com/081908.htm
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/05/07/nb-penobsquis-water-lawyer-1056.html?ref=rss
>
>
> http://www.newbrunswickbeacon.ca/2010/03/risk-and-reward-when-rural-life-meets-economic-development/5666
>
>
> http://www.vancouverislandwaterwatchcoalition.ca/go456a/FRACKING
>
> http://www.elements.nb.ca/theme/ecojustice/JeanPaul/JeanPaul.htm
>
> http://www.nbmediacoop.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1133:penobsquis-residents-seek-compensation-for-damages&catid=82:environment&Itemid=197
>
>
> From: David Amos
> Subject: Attn Rob Moir I have read some of your work perhaps you
> should read something from years ago
> To: fundyroyalndp@gmail.com, Moore.R@parl.gc.ca,
> jacques_poitras@cbc.ca, cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca,
> tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca,
> Layton.J@parl.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, bbixby@burnslev.com,
> david@lutz.nb.ca, drosenblatt@burnslev.com,
> markwright4mp@politician.com
> Cc: fosterd@bennettjones.ca, corporate.relations@potashcorp.com,
> lgold.blcanada@b-l.com, fbinhct@leo.gov
> Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 9:46 PM
>
>
> First things first meet Lenny Gold, Dougy Foster and Joey Podwika. You
> can be certain that these wicked bastards know exactly who I am and
> are no doubt quite nervous that the Feds have not figured out a way to
> shut me up yet.
>
> Everybody knows that far away corporate lawyers such as these three
> stooges have been making the big score off us dumb Maritimers forever
> and a day and have been laughing their nasty arses off at us all the
> way to their buddies' bank. They appear to fear only one Maritimer and
> that is yours truly. Ask them if I am liar or not as I speak of the
> Bank Fraud Tax Fraud, Securities Fraud and Murders that you are afraid
> to talk about. Shawn Graham should know everthing he partied hardy
> with my G.A.L. Brian Bixby's Law firm in Beantown one year ago and I
> effected an introduction with the lawyer Leonard Gold because that
> very dumb Maritimer came to Beantown to talk to many evil Yankees ten
> times more worldly wise than Shawny Baby ever could be.
>
> Your laments Bobby Baby about lost water really rot my socks. You
> should know I covered that base years ago and everybody just ran away
> scared. Ask the Minister Larry Cannon why I laughed when he gave out a
> little federal gold just before Bernie Lord had the writ dropped in
> 2006 in the provincial election. It was very telling thing just like
> all the money being passed out right now.
>
> I noticed that you and all you NDP pals ignored the fact that I ran in
> that election as well as the Fed one and the one in Nova Scotia
> earlier that year. Yea I saw you and Pat Hannratty ducking  out the
> back just as I walked in that night in January of 2006. Why you didn't
> answer my friend Jack's letter either spoke to your personal integrity
> EH? If Rob Moore or none of the Conservatives on the Hill faraway
> won't talk to you just ask the lawyer Smith in Saint John the boss of
> the NB Securities Commission if I didn't raise a little Hell while he
> filled the other lawyer Nicholson's boots in PUB just long enough to
> cram the pipeline through to the trunk while the election was on and I
> was intervening in the pipeline matter in Saint John at the same time
> and Norm Miller and his lawyer ignored my arguments but read my words
> about it all on the web all the same.
>
> Better yet why not have some fun and ask the very strange PCS dudes in
> Sussex why they had my photo posted at the gate and the RCMP were to
> be called if I made an appearance there while I was running against
> your pal John Carty in Fat Fred City. Your clue to their malice is UBS
> and another lawyer named Dave Aufhauser whom I have been battling with
> for six long years. Do you even know who he is? Rest assured Lenny,
> Dougy and Joey do.
>
> Whereas you trust the words of the very malicious CBC or the Irvings
> and not mine read what the CBC were saying one year ago. Then read
> what the local Irving rag wrote about me four god damned years ago.
>
> For the record Bobby Baby I still remember you commenting on the
> trouble I was having with the Feds so that my minor son could return
> to the USA to comfort his mother and how little milk of human kindness
> you have had in your greedy little PHD soul ever since. Can ya tell I
> don't like you not even a little bit?
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2007/03/27/nb-mccullyfield.html
>
> Read on Teacher pay particular attention to my words about oil and
> gas.and crossborder public corruption. For the record I have always
> considered the water in Penobsquis a federal matter concerning the NEB
> and if they ignore me then maybe i would take it up in the Federal
> Court. It won't go anywhere though if Maritimers don't finally wise up
> start listening to me.
>
>
> FYI I have started to upload some of my ducument for the public to
> view. They can be found here and there will be a great deal more to
> follow as my time allows.
>
> http://www.scribd.com/people/view/554842-david-raymond-amos
>
> This Maritimer Danny Boy Fitzgeral who is studying for his PHD in
> Holland made several interesting blogs about me as he attacked my
> integrity. In the end methinks I may have turned him my way and in
> return I left his school out of my battles.
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/3rd-part-political-runs-in-maritimes.html
>
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-1b.html
>
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-2.html
>
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-3.html
>
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/canadian-action-party-cap-qsls.html
>
> Perhaps you should study them sometime EH Teacher? You should take
> careful notice that college degrees mean less than nothing to me. Just
> like any true Maritimer it is fighters, foresters, farmers and
> fishermen I admire not rich snots that do not understand the meaning
> of hard work. That said it does appear that Danny Boy does work very
> hard on his blog. I do know how long such things take and his blog is
> a fine and as fancy as anyones and constantly updated. I particularly
> apprciate the fact he leaves his comments open without moderation.
>
> Also for the record I signed your Fake Left friends' petition.
>
> Penobsquis Deserves Safe Water
>
> 98  Fran Oliver There is no excuse for this situation. A responsible
> provincial government and a responsible corporation would never allow
> local families to bear the financial and social burden, likely
> resulting from a provincial mining operation, while government and
> corporation choke on huge profits.
>
> 99  David Raymond Amos Ask Garth Moore why my picture is posted at the
> gate while I ran for Parliament will ya?
>
> My friends tell me tha the Photo the PCS dudes had posted as some sort
> of criminal the RCMP were watching out for was clipped from the pages
> of the Kings County Record that contained the following articles.
>
> The following email and two deleted blogs can be found within one
> pigheaded Maritimer's blog about government injustice. After the
> Irvings had his pal's Chucky Leblanc' former blog wiped out I had to
> tease and torture him into doing the right thing and allowing just one
> of my comments to stand. Some much for Freedom on Speech on the
> Internet when even Maritime bloggers are unethical  EH teacher?
>
> For the record only the Gypsy and Danny Boy fitzgerald have allowed
> all of my comments to stand the test of time and ethics. Thus far so I
> must give credit where credit is due. Your chosen profession such as
> it is should at least understand that EH Mr. Moir?
>
> Here is my last post in the blogs tonight. Obviously I do not pretend
> to be somebody I am not. N'est Pas?
>
> http://gypsy-blog.blogspot.com/2008/04/from-student-to-city-councillor.html
>
> Veritas Vincit
>
> David Raymond Amos
>
> The following email can be found here
> http://govinjustice.blogspot.com/2008/04/tjburke-letter-to-me.html
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "McKnight, Gisele" McKnight.Gisele@kingscorecord.com
> To: lcampenella@ledger.com
> Cc:motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:53 PM
> Subject: David Amos
>
> Hello Lisa,
>
> David Amos asked me to contact you. I met him last June after he became
> an independent (not representing any political party) candidate in our
> federal
> election that was held June 28. He was a candidate in our constituency of
> Fundy (now called  Fundy-Royal).
>
> I wrote a profile story about him, as I did all other candidates. That
> story appeared in the Kings County Record June 22. A second story, written
> by one of my reporters, appeared on the same date, which was a report on
> the candidates' debate held June 18.
>
> As I recall David Amos came last of four candidates in the election.
> The winner got 14,997 votes, while Amos got 358.
>
> I have attached the two stories that appeared, as well as a photo
> taken by reporter Erin Hatfield during the debate. I couldn't find the
> photo
> that ran, but this one is very similar.
>
>
> A1-debate A1-amos,David for MP 24.doc debate 2.JPG
>
> Gisele McKnight editor
> Kings County Record
> Sussex, New Brunswick
> Canada
> 506-433-1070
>
>
> Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
>
> By Erin Hatfield
>
> "If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your
> world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
>
> The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at
> the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to
> watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if
> unofficial, theme song for the debate.
>
> The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as
> they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn.
> Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue
> chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent
> left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty,
> mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards
> the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.
>
> The debate was moderated by Leo Melanson of CJCW Radio and was
> organized by the Sussex Valley Jaycees. Candidates wereasked a barrage
> of questions bypanelists Gisele McKnight of the Kings County Record
> and Lisa Spencer of CJCW.
>
> Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates
> responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the
> exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices.
> Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each
> other on their answers and criticizing eachothers' party leaders.
> Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the
> questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of comic
> relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in
> response to the question of thenational gun registry. "Nobody's
> getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."
>
> Herron, a Progressive Conservative MP turned Liberal, veered from his
> party'splatform with regard to gun control. "It was ill advised but
> well intentioned," Herron said. "No matter what side of the house I am
> on, I'm voting against it." Pat Hanratty agreed there were better
> places for the gun registry dollars to be spent.Recreational hunters
> shouldn't have been penalized by this gun registry," he said.
>
> The gun registry issues provoked the tempers of Herron and Moore. At
> one point Herron got out of his seat and threw a piece of paper in
> front of Moore. "Read that," Herron said to Moore, referring to the
> voting record of Conservative Party leader Steven Harper. According to
> Herron, Harper voted in favour of the registry on the first and second
> readings of the bill in 1995. "He voted against it when it counted, at
> final count," Moore said. "We needa government with courage to
> register sex offenders rather than register the property of law
> abiding citizens."
>
> The crowd was vocal throughout the evening, with white haired men and
> women heckling from the Conservative side. "Shut up John," one woman
> yelled. "How can you talk about selling out?" a man yelled whenHerron
> spoke about his fear that the Conservatives are selling farmers out.
>
> Although the Liberal side was less vocal, Kings East MLA Leroy
> Armstrong weighed in at one point. "You're out of touch," Armstrong
> yelled to Moore from the crowd when the debate turned to the cost of
> post-secondary education. Later in the evening Amos challenged
> Armstrong to a public debate of their own. "Talk is cheap. Any time,
> anyplace," Armstrong responded.
>
> As the crowd made its way out of the building following the debate,
> candidates worked the room. They shook hands with well-wishers and
> fielded questions from spectators-all part of the decision-making
> process for the June 28 vote.
>
> Cutline – David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his
> favourite possessions—motorcycles.
>
> McKnight/KCR
>
> The Unconventional Candidate
>
> David Amos Isn't Campaigning For Your Vote, But….
>
> By Gisele McKnight
>
> FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his
> wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone
> that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
>
> Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.
>
> The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife
> and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from
> running for office in Canada.
>
> One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail
> to meet Elections Canada requirements.
>
> When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his
> favourite place to do so—Fundy.
>
> Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his
> dissatisfaction with politicians.
>
> "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he
> said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
>
> The journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in
> 1987. He woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he
> needed to change his life.
>
> "I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that
> sometimes in midlife."
>
> So Amos, who'd lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners
> motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952
> Panhead motorcycle.
>
> "Annie and I rode around for awhile (three years, to be exact)
> experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said. "This is how you
> renew your faith in mankind – you help anyone you can, you never ask
> for anything, but you take what they offer."
>
> For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs
> and conversation all over North America.
>
> Since he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son
> and a daughter and become a house-husband – Mr. Mom, as he calls
> himself.
>
> He also describes himself in far more colourful terms—a motorcyclist
> rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed
> individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a proud
> Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."
>
> Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.
>
> "But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said.
> "It's alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"
>
> Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
>
> "I didn't appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door
> interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can
> call me. I'm not going to drive my opinions down their throats."
>
> And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.
>
> "I won't take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It's
> not about money. It goes against what I'm fighting about."
>
> What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood,
> the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to
> name a few.
>
> "The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing,
> farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm
> death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it
> (NAFTA) out the window.
>
> NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an
> easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
>
> Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
>
> "There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me,
> especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right.
> Don't necessarily vote for me, but vote."
>
> Although…if you're going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have
> your X by his name.
>
> "I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and
> say, 'what the hell.'"
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:38:35 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
> of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
> you people buy much stock in their stock eh?
> To: henrybanta
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:47:02 -0300
> Subject: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack of
> ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before you
> people buy much stock in their stock eh?
> To: Scott.Espenshade@bhpbilliton.com, ir
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/
>
>
> http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:47:02 -0300
> Subject: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack of
> ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before you
> people buy much stock in their stock eh?
> To: Scott.Espenshade@bhpbilliton.com, ir
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/
>
>
> http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf
>
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "STAINTON-JAMES, Angela"
>> > To: "'David Amos'"
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:50 AM
>> > Subject: RE: So what is the Conservative MP Hugh Robertson gonna do
>> > about people in his riding torturing people on the Internet? In Canada
>> > such slander is a crime EH Vic Toews?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear David
>> >
>> > Thank you for your e-mail addressed to Hugh Robertson. Your e-mail
>> > has come through to Hugh's constituency office when, clearly, you need
>> > his Department. Sadly, I do not have an e-mail address for him but
>> > the telephone number of the Department of Media Culture and Sport is
>> > 020 7211 6200 and they should be able to provide you with the
>> > necessary information.
>> >
>> > Thank you for writing to Hugh and if you have any problem at all
>> > please do not hesitate to come back to me.
>> >
>> > Best wishes
>> > Angela Stainton-James
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: 29 May 2010 23:24
>> > To: STAINTON-JAMES, Angela; toewsv1
>> > Cc: RHar100@aol.com; Gilles. Blinn; gilles.moreau; roger. gillies;
>> > rogerduguay21
>> > Subject: So what is the Conservative MP Hugh Robertson gonna do about
>> > people in his riding torturing people on the Internet? In Canada such
>> > slander is a crime EH Vic Toews?
>> >
>> > Need I say that "Satan's Crack Dealer" and his many evil little fans
>> > atacked the wrong pissed of Maritimer in Youtube? Scroll down read
>> > real slow and then call your lawyer or the cops Mr Roberson
>> >
>> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6074892060
>> > Richard Coughlan
>> > Faversham, United Kingdom
>> > email RHar100@aol.com
>> > Website:http://youtube.com/user/coughlan666
>> > Phone 07935333407
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos
>> > Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:46:20 -0300
>> > Subject: Mr. Finkelstein I just discovered you and your concerns today
>> > perhaps we should have a long talk ASAP? i an be reached at 506 485
>> > 2578 for a couple of days
>> > To: normfinkelstein@gmail.com
>> >
>> > Need I say that I am hounoured that this evil person hates me/
>> >
>> > http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/05/americans-have-never-guarantteed.html
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos
>> > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:23:46 -0300
>> > Subject: Lets see if the Russians will understand Fwd: We just talked
>> > this what I was trying to relate to the President of Mexico while he
>> > was in Canada
>> > To: info@rusembassy.ca
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos
>> > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:19:51 -0300
>> > Subject: We just talked this what I was trying to relate to the
>> > President of Mexico while he was in Canada
>> > To: atperez_lee
>> >
>> > The easiest way to check something about my concerns quickly is to go
>> > to the US Senate Banking Committee hearing on November 18th and 20th
>> > 2003 and notice the webcasts and transcripts of a very important
>> > hearing about the financial industry are missing. Please notice the
>> > crook Eliot Spitzer testified on the 20th
>> >
>> >
>>http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.List&Month=0&Year=2003
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=102e41a1-f540-4ce5-a701-b6d09b7606b1
>>
>> >
>> >
>>http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
>>
>> >
>> > Now look for Spitzer's answer to me on page 13 of this pdf file
>> >
>> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
>> >
>> > The easy answer to your next question is YES I am the the guy nobody
>> > will talk about. so perhaps you should for the benefit of your
>> > concerns and pocketbook. (Google David Amos and Wendy Olsen to see how
>> > far down the rabbbit hole I can take anyone)
>> >
>> > I explained some of it a year ago on many talk shows and nobody cared.
>> > Listen here if you wish then go figure whom you should trust.
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJGDSlnyKro
>> >
>> > If nothing else have laugh at my espense and Google this expression
>> > "Nobody will say my name"
>> >
>> >
>> > Here is just one of the many reasons why
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:21 AM
>> > To: David Amos; USANYS-MADOFF; Litt, Marc (USANYS)
>> > Cc: webo; vasilescua@sec.gov; friedmani@sec.gov; krishnamurthyp@sec.gov
>> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
>> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> >
>> > Thank you for your response.
>> >
>> > Wendy Olsen
>> > Victim Witness Coordinator
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:48 AM
>> > To: USANYS-MADOFF; Olsen, Wendy (USANYS); Litt, Marc (USANYS)
>> > Cc: webo; vasilescua@sec.gov; friedmani@sec.gov; krishnamurthyp@sec.gov
>> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
>> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> >
>> > Ms Olsen
>> >
>> > Thank you for keeping me informed.
>> >
>> > Yes unseal all my emails with all their attachments immediately and
>> > make certain that the US Attorny's office finally practices full
>> > disclosurement as to who I am and what my concerns are as per the Rule
>> > of Law within a purported democracy.
>> >
>> > As you folks all well know I am not a shy man and I have done nothing
>> > wrong. It appears to me that bureacratic people only use the right to
>> > privacy of others when it suits their malicious ends in order to
>> > protect their butts from impreacment, litigation and prosecution.
>> >
>> > The people in the US Attorney's Office and the SEC etc are very well
>> > aware that I protested immediately to everyone I could think of when
>> > the instant I knew that my correspondences went under seal and Madoff
>> > pled guilty so quickly and yet another cover up involing my actions
>> > was under full steam. Everybody knows that.the US Government has been
>> > trying to keep my concerns about the rampant public corruption a
>> > secret for well over seven long years. However now that a lot of
>> > poeple and their countries in general are losing a lot of money people
>> > are beginning to remember just exactly who I am and what i did
>> > beginning over seven years ago..
>> >
>> > Veritas Vincit
>> > David Raymond Amos
>> > 506 756 8687
>> >
>> > P.S. For the record Obviously I pounced on these Yankee bastards as
>> > soon as the newsrag in Boston published this article on the web last
>> > night.
>> >
>> > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1162354&f
>> > ormat=&page=2&listingType=biz#articleFull
>> >
>> > Notice that Nester just like everyone else would not say my name? It
>> > is because my issues surrounding both Madoff and are NOT marketing
>> > timing They are as you all well know money laundering, fraud,
>> > forgery, perjury, securites fraud, tax fraud, Bank fraud, illegal
>> > wiretappping and Murder amongst other very serious crimes.
>> >
>> > "SEC spokesman John Nester dismissed similarities between Markopolos
>> > and Scannell's cases as "not a valid comparison."
>> >
>> > He said the SEC determined the market-timing by Putnam clients that
>> > Scannell reported didn't violate federal law. Nester said the SEC only
>> > acted after another tipster alleged undisclosed market-timing by some
>> > Putnam insiders.
>> >
>> > Scannell, now a crusader for SEC reforms, isn't surprised the agency
>> > is in hot water again.
>> >
>> > Noting that several top SEC officials have gone on to high-paying
>> > private-sector jobs, he believes hopes for future employment impact
>> > investigations. "It's a distinct disadvantage to make waves before you
>> > enter the private sector," Scannell said."
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 3/30/09, David Amos wrote:
>> >
>> > From: David Amos
>> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S
>> > OFFICE
>> > SDNY
>> > To: NesterJ@sec.gov, letterstoeditor@bostonherald.com, "oig"
>> > , Thunter@tribune.com, david@davidmyles.com,
>> > ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca, "Dan Fitzgerald"
>> > Cc: dsheehan@bakerlaw.com, dspelfogel@bakerlaw.com,
>> > mc@whistleblowers.org, gkachroo@mccarter.com,
>> > david.straube@accenture.com, gurdip.s.sahota@accenture.com,
>> > benjamin_mcmurray@ao.uscourts.gov, bob_burke@ao.uscourts.gov
>> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 10:00 PM
>> >
>> > Need I say BULLSHIT?
>> >
>> > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1162354&f
>> > ormat=&page=2&listingType=biz#articleFull
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos
>> > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:03:13 -0300
>> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S
>> > OFFICE
>> > SDNY
>> > To: Russ.Stanton@latimes.com, meredith.goodman@latimes.com,
>> > ninkster@navigantconsulting.com, dgolub@sgtlaw.com
>> > Cc: firstselectmanffld@town.fairfield.ct.us,
>> > editor@whatsupfairfield.com, info@csiworld.org, jacques_poitras
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos
>> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:40:55 -0300
>> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
>> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> > To: gmacnamara@town.fairfield.ct.us, MartiK1 ,
>> > "Paul. Harpelle" , Jason Keenan
>> > , Kandalaw
>> > Cc: info@grahamdefense.org, fbinhct@leo.gov
>> >
>> > From: "Peck,Dave"
>> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:32:32 -0400
>> > Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT
>> > INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> > To: David Amos
>> >
>> > I will be unavailable until 4/1/09.
>> >
>> > Deputy Chief MacNamara will be in charge while I am away.
>> >
>> > He can be reached at 254-4831 or email him at
>> > gmacnamara@town.fairfield.ct.us
>> >
>> > I will not be checking emails or cell phone messages.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> > Chief Dave Peck
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos
>> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:32:18 -0300
>> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
>> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> > To: dpeck@town.fairfield.ct.us, edit@ctpost.com, bresee@courant.com
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos
>> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:19:35 -0300
>> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
>> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> > To: dtnews@telegraph.co.uk
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: USANYS-MADOFF
>> > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:06 PM
>> > To: DAVID.RAYMOND.AMOS@GMAIL.COM
>> > Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> >
>> > In United States v. Bernard L. Madoff, 09 Cr. 213 (DC), the Court
>> > received a request from NBC and ABC to unseal all correspondence from
>> > victims that has been submitted in connection with the case.
>> >
>> > This includes your email to the Government.
>> >
>> > If the correspondence from victims is unsealed, the victim's personal
>> > identifying information including name, address, telephone number and
>> > email address (to the extent it was included on the correspondence)
>> > will become public. The Government must submit a response to the
>> > request by NBC and ABC by Tuesday, March 31, 2009. Please let us know
>> > whether you consent to the full disclosure of your correspondence, or
>> > whether you wish to have your correspondence remain sealed for privacy
>> > or other reasons.
>> > If you wish to have your correspondence remain sealed, please let us
>> > know the reason. We will defend your privacy to the extent that we
>> > can. Thank you.
>> >
>> > I looks like the US attorney in New York finally has to unseal my
>> > emails that you dudes have been sitting on for quite some time for no
>> > reason I will ever understand other than you are just a bunch of
>> > chickenshits.
>> >
>> > I know NBC, ABC, your blogger buddies or any other media wacko will
>> > never say my name but the pissed off folks that lost a lot of money
>> > with Bernie Baby just may ask how the hell I am EH?
>> >
>> > Veritas Vincit
>> > David Raymond Amos
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: David Amos
>> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:48:50 -0300
>> > Subject: Fwd: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
>> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
>> > To: Marc.Litt@usdoj.gov
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos
>> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:29:42 -0300
>> > Subject: Fwd: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
>> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
>> > To: PChavkin@mintz.com
>> > Cc: webo
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: "Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)"
>> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:08:04 -0400
>> > Subject: RE: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
>> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
>> > To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> >
>> > On March 10, 2009, the Honorable Denny Chin provided the following
>> > guidance for victims who wish to be heard at the plea proceeding on
>> > March 12, 2009 at 10:00 a.m.:
>> >
>> > Judge Chin stated that there are two issues that the Court will
>> > consider at the hearing: (1) whether to accept a guilty plea from the
>> > defendant to the eleven-count Criminal Information filed by the
>> > Government, which provides for a maximum sentence of 150 years'
>> > imprisonment; and (2) whether the defendant should be remanded or
>> > released on conditions of bail, if the Court accepts a guilty plea.
>> > Judge Chin also stated that, at the hearing on March 12, 2009, he will
>> > conduct a plea allocution of the defendant and then will announce
>> > whether the Court intends to accept the plea. At that time, the Court
>> > will solicit speakers who disagree with the Court's intended ruling.
>> >
>> > Assuming the defendant pleads guilty and his plea is accepted by
>> > the Court, the Court intends to allow the Government and defense
>> > counsel to speak on the issue of bail. The Court will then announce
>> > its intended ruling on that issue. The Court will then invite
>> > individuals who disagree with the proposed ruling on bail to be heard.
>> >
>> > The Court noted that there will be opportunity for victims to be
>> > heard in the future on the subjects of sentencing, forfeiture and
>> > restitution in advance of any sentencing of the defendant. The Court
>> > also noted that it is not appropriate for victims who wish to speak
>> > concerning sentencing issues to be heard at the March 12, 2009
>> > proceeding.
>> >
>> > A link to the a transcript of the March 10, 2009 Court hearing can
>> > be found on the website of the United States Attorney's Office for the
>> > Southern District of New York:
>> >
>> > http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nys
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
>> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:56 AM
>> > To: usanys.madoff@usdoj.gov
>> > Subject: FW: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
>> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 12:58 PM
>> > To: horwitzd@dicksteinshapiro.com; Nardoza, Robert (USANYE);
>> > USAMA-Media (USAMA); Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
>> > Cc: oig
>> > Subject: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and KPMG
>> > etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
>> >
>> > horwitzd@dicksteinshapiro.com
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: "Sartory, Thomas J."
>> > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:41:20 -0500
>> > Subject: RE: I did talk the lawyers Golub and Flumenbaum tried to
>> > discuss Bernie Madoff and KPMG etc before sending these emails
>> > To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Mr. Amos,
>> >
>> > I am General Counsel at Goulston & Storrs. Your email below to
>> > Messers. Rosensweig and Reisch has been forwarded to me for response.
>> > While it's not clear what type of assistance, if any, you seek from
>> > Goulston % Storrs, please be advised that we are not in a position to
>> > help you. Please do not send further communications to any of our
>> > attorneys. We will not be able to respond, and your communications
>> > will not be protected by the attorney-client privilege.
>> >
>> > We wish you well in the pursuit of your concerns.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > Thomas J. Sartory
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Amos [mailto:
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:18 PM
>> > To: Rosensweig, Richard J.; info@LAtaxlawyers.com; Reisch, Alan M.;
>> > reed@hbsslaw.com
>> > Subject: Fwd: I did talk the lawyers Golub and Flumenbaum tried to
>> > discuss Bernie Madoff and KPMG etc before sending these emails
>> >
>> > Perhaps somebody should call me back now. EH?
>> >
>> > UK Parliament Disclaimer:
>> > This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have
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>> > This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted
>> > for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "R Hide (MIN)"
>> > To: "David Amos"
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:33 PM
>> > Subject: RE: BENJAMIN'S EASTON'S PROTEST NOTICE ABOUT INJUSTICES I
>> > have an idea for you Ben
>> >
>> >
>> > On behalf of the Hon Rodney Hide, Minister of Local Government, I wish
>> > to acknowledge receipt of your email.
>> >
>> > Your correspondence has been placed in front of the Minister.
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > Sandy Grove
>> > Ministerial Private Secretary (Advisory)
>> > Office of Hon Rodney Hide
>> > WELLINGTON
>> > Ph 04 817 6630
>> > Email: sandy.grove@parliament.govt.nz
>> >
>> > The content of this email, including any attachment, is intended for
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>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 29 September 2009 3:05 pm
>> > To: T Ryall (MIN); Amy Adams; Jim Anderton;
>> > anderton.wigram@xtra.co.nz; Jacinda Ardern; Shane Ardern; Chris
>> > Auchinvole; Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi; Rick Barker; Carol Beaumont; David
>> > Bennett; Loren Bolton (MIN); Jackie Blue; Chester Borrows;
>> > chester.wanganui@xtra.co.nz; chester.hawera@xtra.co.nz; John Boscawen;
>> > Sue Bradford; socialjustice@greens.org.nz; Simon Bridges; Natalie
>> > Roberts (MIN); Brendon Burns; bb@brendonburns.co.nz; Chris Carter;
>> > labourwest@xtra.co.nz; D Carter (MIN); cartermp@xtra.co.nz; J Carter
>> > (MIN); northlandelectorate@xtra.co.nz; Steve Chadwick; Charles
>> > Chauvel; Ashraf Choudhary; J Coleman (MIN); J Collins (MIN);
>> > office@judithcollins.co.nz; Clayton Cosgrove;
>> > claytoncosgrovekaiapoi@xtra.co.nz; David Cunliffe;
>> > dcunliffe@xtra.co.nz; Clare Curran; lianne.dalziel@parliament.govt.nz;
>> > Kelvin Davis; Jacqui Dean; Catherine Delahunty; Roger Douglas; P Dunne
>> > (MIN); electjville@xtra.co.nz; Ruth Dyson; ruth.dyson@xtra.co.nz; B
>> > English (MIN); elecgor@esi.co.nz; Darien Fenton;
>> > office@labournorth.org.nz; C Finlayson (MIN); Jeanette Fitzsimons; Te
>> > Ururoa Flavell; Craig Foss; craigfoss@backingthebay.co.nz; David
>> > Garrett; Aaron Gilmore; p.goff@parliament.govt.nz; phil@goff.org.nz;
>> > Jo Goodhew; sandra.goudie@national.org.nz; Kennedy Graham; Hon. Tim
>> > Groser (MIN); nathan.guy@national.org.nz;
>> > national.horowhenua@xtra.co.nz; national.kapiti@xtra.co.nz; Kevin
>> > Hague; Hone Harawira; Terry Ututaonga; George Hawkins; John Hayes; P
>> > Heatley (MIN); Tau Henare; tau.henaremp@xtra.co.nz; R Hide (MIN);
>> > rodney@epsom.org.nz; Paul Hutchison; hunua.electorate@xtra.co.nz;
>> > Shane Jones; shanejonesmp@xtra.co.nz; S Joyce (MIN); Rahui Katene;
>> > Nikki Kaye; Sue Kedgley; J Key (MIN); genelle@johnkey.mp.net.nz;
>> > A.King@parliament.govt.nz; kilbirnieeo@xtra.co.nz;
>> > colin.kingmp@xtra.co.nz; winnie.laban@parliament.govt.nz;
>> > mana.electorate@xtra.co.nz; Melissa Lee;
>> > Iain.leesgalloway@parliament.govt.nz; Keith Locke;
>> > greenmps.auckland@greens.org.nz;
>> > peseta.sam.lotuiiga@parliament.govt.nz; Tim Macindoe;
>> > moana.mackey@labour.org.nz; Nanaia Mahuta;
>> > tainuielectorate@xtra.co.nz; Trevor Mallard; WOAoffice@xtra.co.nz;
>> > petone.eo@clear.net.nz; W Mapp (MIN); Todd McClay; M McCully (MIN);
>> > murray.mccully@xtra.co.nz; Sue Moroney; waikatohub.mps@xtra.co.nz;
>> > Stuart Nash; Russel Norman; Hekia Parata; David Parker; Allan Peachey;
>> > Ritchie Wards; lynne.pillaymp@xtra.co.nz; S Power (MIN);
>> > simonpower.feilding@xtra.co.nz; simonpower.marton@xtra.co.nz; Rajen
>> > Prasad; Paul Quinn; angela.bray@parliament.govt.nz;
>> > jen.toogood@parliament.govt.nz; Chris Hipkins;
>> > marlene.ditchfield@xtra.co.nz; janette.granville@xtra.co.nz; Pete
>> > Hodgson; pete@petehodgson.co.nz; Parekura Horomia;
>> > ikaroa.gis@xtra.co.nz; ikaroa.hstgs@xtra.co.nz; Darren Hughes; Raymond
>> > Huo; office@grantrobertson.co.nz; Ross Robertson;
>> > rae.waterhouse@xtra.co.nz; michael.clatworthy@xtra.co.nz; Eric Roy; H
>> > Roy (MIN); Heather Henderson; Pita Sharples (MIN); Sua William Sio;
>> > Trish Wanden; mp.rodney.warkworth@xtra.co.nz; N Smith (MIN);
>> > nick@nick4nelson.co.nz; Maryan Street; Lindsay Tisch;
>> > tolleywhk@xtra.co.nz; tolleygis@xtra.co.nz;
>> > chris.tremain@national.org.nz; napier.electorate@airnet.net.nz;
>> > Metiria Turei; greenmps.dunedin@greens.org.nz; T Turia (MIN);
>> > Tari.Turia@xtra.co.nz; Philip Twyford; Louise Upston; Nicky Wagner; K
>> > Wilkinson (MIN); waimakariri@xtra.co.nz; M Williamson (MIN); Michael
>> > Woodhouse; blueandgold@parliament.govt.nz; P Wong (MIN);
>> > pansy.wong@xtra.co.nz; ahan.young@parliament.govt.nz;
>> > rosslynn@hrc.co.nz; sylviab@hrc.co.nz; michaelW@hrc.co.nz;
>> > phillippa.smith@oag.govt.nz; Mark.Holman@ssc.govt.nz;
>> > mark.thornton@justice.govt.nz; boris.vanbeusekom@justice.govt.nz;
>> > tinz@paradise.net.nz; >; emma.miles@police.govt.nz;
>> > John.Rivers@police.govt.nz; Mike.Webb@police.govt.nz;
>> > nurses@nzno.org.nz; gay@pha.org.nz; qsolutionsrising@gmail.com;
>> > easy@island.net; jardim.stratton@gmail.com;
>> > christinejhansen@gmail.com; no_to_nwo@yahoo.co.uk;
>> > johan.niklasson@evolution-production.com; lunalas@cox.net;
>> > saxon1hero@yahoo.co.uk; journalist@bellsouth.net;
>> > irenew.politico@gmail.com; daniel.solis@seznam.cz;
>> > vickytoxotis@hotmail.com; wef339@mail.com; katcre22@yahoo.com;
>> > scott@tkgtech.com; amandablake@blueyonder.co.uk;
>> > who.flu.2009@gmail.com; jazon@ymail.com; sineadcasper@live.ie;
>> > acpscotland@hotmail.co.uk; p.duffy93@ntlworld.com;
>> > tua46054@temple.edu; ciaranmcloone@ooglemail.com;
>> > marek_p2000@yahoo.com; black2000at@hotmail.com;
>> > madame_karnak@yahoo.com; sracine@gmail.com;
>> > annikatornlind@hotmail.com; manonf6@yahoo.com; matt@mattengelman.com;
>> > grantlear@hotmail.com; helix7@hotmail.com; editor@uncensored.co.nz;
>> > melocacau@gmail.com; steve.gosschalk@gmail.com;
>> > tidalelectric@gmail.com; vapi.kupenga@xtra.co.nz;
>> > eastwood.vincent@gmail.com; sichel@nsw.chariot.net.au;
>> > mlm@archaeoskymatrix.com
>> > Cc: laos_newzealand@yahoo.co.nz; jane burgermeister
>> > Subject: RE: BENJAMIN'S EASTON'S PROTEST NOTICE ABOUT INJUSTICES I
>> > have an idea for you Ben
>> >
>> > From: National Kapiti Electorate Office
>> > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:14:19 +1300
>> > Subject: RE: NZ HEALTH MINISTER TONY RYALL - MS PENNY DO YOU READ
>> > EMAILS AS WELL AS WRITE THEM?
>> > To: David Amos
>> >
>> > Dear Mr Amos
>> > Thank you for copying Nathan in with your email to NZ Health Minister
>> > Tony
>> > Ryall. This has been passed on to Nathan for his information.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Heather
>> >
>> > Heather Shaw| Electorate Agent for Hon Nathan Guy MP for Otaki
>> > P: +64 4 298 2906| F: +64 4 298 4845| Shop 3, 23 Amohia Street,
>> > Paraparaumu,
>> > Kapiti Coast 5032
>> > www.nathanguy.co.nz
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Heather
>> >
>> > Jan 3rd, 2004
>> >
>> > Mr. David R. Amos
>> > 153 Alvin Avenue
>> > Milton, MA U.S.A. 02186
>> >
>> > Dear Mr. Amos
>> >
>> > Thank you for your letter of November 19th, 2003, addressed to
>> > my predecessor,
>> > the Honourble Wayne Easter, regarding your safety. I apologize for the
>> > delay in responding.
>> >
>> > If you have any concerns about your personal safety, I can only
>> > suggest that you contact
>> > the police of local jurisdiction. In addition, any evidence of
>> > criminal activity should be brought
>> > to their attention since the police are in the best position to
>> > evaluate the information and take
>> > action as deemed appropriate.
>> >
>> > I trust that this information is satisfactory.
>> >
>> > Yours sincerely
>> > A. Anne McLellan”
>> >
>> > September 11th, 2004
>> >
>> > Dear Mr. Amos,
>> >
>> > On behalf of Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne
>> > Clarkson, I acknowledge receipt of two sets of documents and
>> > CD regarding corruption, one received from you directly, and the
>> > other forwarded to us by the Office of the Lieutenant Governor of
>> > New Brunswick.
>> >
>> > I regret to inform you that the Governor General cannot
>> > intervene in matters that are the responsibility of elected officials
>> > and courts of
>> > Justice of Canada. You already contacted the various provincial
>> > authorities
>> > regarding your concerns, and these were the appropriate steps to take.
>> >
>> > Yours sincerely.
>> >
>> > Renee Blanchet
>> > Office of the Secretary to the Governor General
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:12:44 -0300
>> Subject: Fwd: We just talked
>> To: scott.white@thecanadianpress.com, pagek@parl.gc.ca,
>> editor@policeprofessional.com
>> Cc: IgnatM , LaytoJ ,
>> jemma@policeprofessional.com, hiddenfromhistory
>>
>>
>> Need i say i was not surprised when Askari and his boss Kevin Page
>> formerly of the PCO office did not respond to my phone calls or email
>> yesterday?
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos
>> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:39:54 -0300
>> Subject: We just talked
>> To: askarm@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Mostafa Askari
>> Director General
>> Library of Parliament
>> Economic and Fiscal Analysis
>> Parliament Buildings
>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A9
>> Canada
>>
>> Telephone : 613-992-8045
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:07:59 -0300
>> Subject: You Cato dudes played dumb again about your missing blog and
>> the documents I sent ya but lets see if one of your Directors is a
>> dumb as you and the Feds pretend to be
>> To: barnold@cato.org, kcouchman@cato.org, ckennedy@cato.org,
>> amast@cato.org
>> Cc: "rick. skinner" , "Dean.Buzza"
>>
>>
>> The text of the blog of Tom Palmer's that Cato denies existed can be
>> found within my blog and many other places as well as this email
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.com/2005/03/ides-of-march.html
>>
>> March 24, 2005
>> Crazy as a Loon, but Free
>>
>> Off to Iceland!
>>
>> Well, Bobby Fischer has his Icelandic passport. The U.S. government
>> can now stop persecuting him for the crime of playing chess in
>> Yugoslavia. Fischer may be out of his mind (tha’ts almost certain, if
>> you consider his anti-Semitism and praise for the 9-11 attacks), but
>> he’s not out of his mind for choosing Iceland as his country of
>> refuge. And the Icelanders, who may later regret having such an
>> utterly crazy person wandering around in their country, have done the
>> right thing by offering him refuge.
>>
>> NOTE: I seem to have attracted a stalker, who keeps posting strange
>> messages on this site. Whatever.
>>
>> Posted by Tom Palmer at March 24, 2005 07:09 AM | TrackBack
>>
>> Comments
>> Quite frankly I do not understand this. What does Iceland gain from
>> this? Fischer himself stated that he would NEVER return to chess. So,
>> it is unlikely that he will play for Iceland... and even though he
>> did, it is not like he’d be back at the top.
>> Now, he might want to teach his fellow Icelanders
>> Fischerrandom...Fischerrandom is to chess what Estonian grammar is to
>> linguistic ...And THAT sounds like a threat to me. NV
>>
>>
>> Posted by: Nathalie I. Vogel at March 24, 2005 08:36 AM
>> I doubt that Iceland has much to gain. (And I suspect that the
>> inhabitants of Reykjavik may suffer from having an insufferable
>> loudmouth crackpot wandering around.) But they did the right thing.
>> The better thing would have been for the U.S. to drop its case against
>> Mr. Fischer. I don't think you should lose your passport or suffer
>> criminal prosecution for traveling someplace to play chess. I think
>> that the position of the U.S. government (and of both Democratic and
>> Republican administrations) is the harder one to understand.
>>
>> Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 24, 2005 08:47 AM
>> TGP: "Fischer may be out of his mind (tha’ts almost certain, if you
>> consider his anti-Semitism "
>>
>> I don't want to go all Szaszian on someone for what is most likely a
>> casual comment, but suggesting someone is "out of his mind" simply
>> because he is (labeled as) anti-Semitic seems overmuch. Immoral,
>> perhaps...poorly informed, possibly...holding to views developed as a
>> result of childhood associations, maybe...a confusion on either the
>> part of Fischer or the person making the accusation of anti-Semitism
>> with anti-Zionism, quite possible. But "out of his mind"?
>>
>> Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 24, 2005 11:17 AM
>> Ross, Tom did refer to 'his' anti-Semitism; maybe it's not just that
>> Fischer does not like Jews, but that he suffers from a particularly
>> radical form of bigotry.
>>
>> I wouldn't know myself, but that was the inference I drew from Tom's
>> comment.
>>
>> Posted by: Henri Hein at March 25, 2005 02:45 AM
>> Then, Henri, he would be immoral, or bigoted, not "out of his mind".
>> And he should consult an ethicist, not a travel agent or chiropracter
>> to bring him back to his mind or better align it.
>> Again, my point was merely that "out of his mind" implies one must be
>> crazy or mentally ill to be anti-Semitic; I think that's a category
>> error.
>>
>> Ross
>>
>> Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 25, 2005 06:54 PM
>> Ross's points are well taken, but I do think that some term such as
>> "crazy" (I'll stay away from "mentally ill") is useful in describing
>> Mr. Fischer. (And even Thomas Szasz readily admits that there are
>> "lots of crazy people" around; he just says that they're not sick.)
>>
>> The anti-Semitism that Mr. Fischer spouts is not of the "they wouldn't
>> be welcome in our club" sort (bad as that is), but of the "Organized
>> International Jewry is out to get me," sort. The former is an example
>> of bad behavior, bad manners, immoral views, or the like. The latter
>> sort of anti-Semitism is an obsession that seems in general to be
>> immune to either moral appeal (since it's a claim about an alleged
>> state of affairs, viz., that the Jews run everything and are out to
>> get one) or to factual refutation (how do you argue someone out of
>> such a...for want of a better word...crazy view?).
>>
>> Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 25, 2005 11:34 PM
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: rjvattuone@aol.com
>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:59 AM
>> Subject: This is going to get interesting
>>
>>
>> Hey Richard
>>
>> Thanks for calling me back the other day. Here is my number in Boston
>> 617 698-6549 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 617 698-6549
>> end_of_the_skype_highlighting. I will be hitting the road shortly
>> and I will be sending out to you hard copy of what I am sending to
>> Scott Daruty. However there is a great deal more you should know ASAP.
>> I am involved against the biggest and baddest of them all and we all
>> know they play for keeps. It is important that you know much and have
>> evidence of it in order to protect yourself. I know they moniter my
>> phone calls and I have know doubt that they listen to the Canadain
>> Cell as well. The fact that you spoke to me honestly and openly puts
>> you in jeopardy. If you had acted like most lawyers, the bastards
>> would leave you alone. If you come to my aid, they will attack you.
>> Trust me it has happened before and I will send proof of it in the
>> following emails. Some contain the Tiffs I mentioned I am curious to
>> see if they get through AOL system. I hack been blocked by them in the
>> past. I have not heard from Barry Bachrach since just after he warned
>> me that the FBI was about to pounce on me on Oct 1st. It seems they
>> have him running scared. I must do my best to protect honest men..
>>
>> The following is what I just posted but it seems Bill Gates does not
>> allow Tiff files in his sites so I will forward it to you to support
>> what I said is true. Answer this email if and when you get it an I
>> will send some others if you wish. However I think it would be better
>> not to use AOL. As I said just get one in Yahoo or Hotmail they work
>> better and are free.
>>
>> From: motomaniac in response to Message 1 Sent: 3/27/2005 9:21 AM
>>
>> In defense of Bobby Fischer I must say that he is just another man
>> like me. He has his strengths and his weaknesses. Just like me. One
>> particular forte of his, the amazing ability to play a game very well
>> thrust him into the limelight for the whole wide world to study and
>> examine his every move. More importantly I believe his fame caused him
>> to become a pawn in the big big game. Although he had his right to
>> privacy, the whole world dogged at his heels and critized his every
>> action as a man. The Masters of War obviously tried use him to their
>> advantage during the Cold War. He is not a stateman or a lawyer. He is
>> simply a free thinking individual who has every right to speak his
>> mind particularly after he has suffered through hell just because he
>> plays chess so very well.
>>
>> I say judge not lest ye be judged and mind your own mouth about things
>> you do not know all the details of. I am far more outspoken than Bobby
>> ever was and yet you have never even heard of my name. It is because
>> the corporate controlled media is not permited to do so. I am nobody
>> with any special talent that had caused me to be thrown into public
>> scrutiny before I was compelled to speak out as Bobby has done. I do
>> not have to agree or disagree with his every word over the years to
>> understand his meaning and his troubles. That said, in all honesty it
>> would behoove us both if his lawyer would listen to me and employ
>> Bobby's fame to expose the truth of all that we say.
>>
>> I am am not a perfect person and neither is Bobby. I do not know him
>> nor do I judge him. Yet I do agree with with his standing in defense
>> of his freedom. The Chessmaster has every right to spout off against
>> the Masters of War because they have offended him greatly. It is for
>> his attorney to weed out the truth and evidence of his convictions and
>> present it in court in order to seek relief on his client's behalf. A
>> jury of his peers will decide the truth of his matters not us bloggers
>> without veiwing and hearing all the evidence. Forget what you may
>> glean from the media. The information is controlled and slanted
>> against him. Listen to what his lawyer says and what is used in
>> arguement against him on the public record. Do not hold court in the
>> media just gossip about things you know are true in order for the
>> courts to act properly in the public interest.
>>
>> Bobby has paid the devil his due and done time in his jails. It is
>> time for him to seek relief. I have as well. I was summoned to jail in
>> the USA while running for Parliament in Canada and held under the
>> charges of "other". I will not want allow myself to be judged on just
>> one particular act or deed. My criminal trial in the USA is coming
>> very soon. I will have lots to say.
>>
>> It is the average of all our days and deeds that speaks of us as the
>> men we are. Like any game, it is what happens in the end that counts.
>> Sometimes sacrifices must be made and sometimes mistakes are made.
>> However once the word "checkmate" is declared, it is all over but the
>> crying as long as we play by the rules and the fat lady sings in tune.
>> I am more than happy to provide to Mr. Vattuone my evidence of much
>> public corruption in order to support Bobby's lawsuit against the USA.
>> It is high time the the Masters of War paid the fiddler and then be
>> compelled to dance to a different tune as we make them fall on their
>> own sword. No one is above the law. The public trust must be upheld or
>> we are all losers in the the big big game. Forget Bobby and chess for
>> a minute and listen to what he is saying through his attorney. I
>> applaud is efforts in support of Bobby and his legal matters. I hope
>> we get on like a house on fire. Any enemy of my foe should be a friend
>> of mine. Bobby lawyer is your neighbor listen to him and then speak
>> out to protect your own civil rights. What happened to Bobby and I
>> could happen to you next. Get it?
>>
>> If anyone wishes to challenge what I have said, respond to this
>> message with a email account that can hold of 25 megs of attachments.
>> I will send you Tiff files of legal documents etc. that will take you
>> down path of of the Garden of Good and Evil that everybody knows is
>> true. I simply made it a point to prove it. My particular forte that
>> helped accomplish such a necessary task is that I am more stubburn
>> than a pig, meaner than a snake and smarter than the average bear.
>> Much to my chagrin, I am just an average sort of chess player and have
>> much to learn from Bobby in that regard but I maintain that chess is
>> just a game. Bobby was compelled to play a far more serious and deadly
>> game just because of his love of a game. I do recognize his talent but
>> my hat is off to him because of what he did and stood for as a man not
>> a chess player. In regards to his legal actions methinks I can teach
>> his attorney a trick or two of mine.
>>
>> If anyone has any questions here is my phone number. 506 434-1379
>> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 506 434-1379
>> end_of_the_skype_highlighting Feel free to argue me and stress test my
>> ethics to the max. It is your freedom as well as my own that I am
>> protecting. I think anyone has the right to question my motives. I
>> speak plainly and do not hide my identity. Integrity does not need a
>> mask to hide behind. However men like John Ashcroft and all his
>> cohorts need jails to cage honest men who speak their mind about their
>> masks of virtue.
>>
>> Bobby is just one man of many. His is fortunate that he is famous.
>> Iceland would not do such things on behalf of the likes of me and many
>> others. However Canada or Japan or whatever would do the same against
>> me to support President Bush in a New York minute. In fact it already
>> happened. The one file I have attached is the reason Clark Kent Ervin
>> got fired immediately after the recent election. He long along proved
>> to me that he was not interested in Truth Justice and the American Way
>> and in fact he is a dumb as a post. I will wager I could beat him at
>> chess. I know I played him like a fiddle as a lawyer and that is his
>> game of choice. It was really to funny to me the advice he offered to
>> others as he entered into the Aspen Crowd of nasty dudes. I feel the
>> need to quote him. Many a govenment lawyer will understand why I am
>> busting my gut laughing. I hope Bobby's lawyer does too.
>>
>> Lauren Robinson POGO Fellow " Any advice for your fellow public
>> servants?"
>>
>> Clark Kent Ervin "Well, just do your job and let the political chips
>> fall where they may. Unless your're willing to do that, it seems to me
>> you shouldn't take the job in the first place."
>>
>> My answer to his remark is No Shit Sherlock. The former Inspector
>> General can expect a rather profound civil lawsuit. He must argue me
>> Pro Se or a at least without government assistance on his behalf
>> because he failed to act within the scope of his employment and he is
>> now out of the job.
>>
>> David Raymond Amos
>>
>>
>> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:12 PM
>> December 7th, 2003
>>
>> Gene Healy Senior Editor Cato Institute
>> 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
>> Washington D.C. 20001-5403
>> Phone (202) 842-0200 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting
>> (202) 842-0200 end_of_the_skype_highlighting
>> Fax (202) 842-3490
>> RE: Corruption
>> Sir,
>> Please find enclosed an exact copy of a letter with all its enclosures
>> recently sent to the Hearst Corporation and many others. Many of your
>> directors such as Lewis E. Randall, John C. Malone and Jeffrey S. Yass
>> should find the documents an interesting read. I ask that you make
>> them available for their review.
>> I watched David Boaz speak on C-Span the other day and heard him say
>> many things. What I found the most interesting was that he said that
>> the Cato Institute was named after some rather prolific letter
>> writers. I invite you all to read mine. They can be found at the
>> website mentioned in the enclosed documents. I could not send this
>> letter to Mr. Boaz because he is not a lawyer and an officer of the
>> court as you are. This is because only law enforcement authorities or
>> officers of the court have any right to listen to the copy of wiretap
>> numbered 139. It is served upon you in confidence as an officer of the
>> court in order that you may act ethically and see that it is properly
>> investigated. Please share the contents of the Cd with only the proper
>> authorities so that I may never be accused of violating anyone’s
>> Fourth Amendment Rights.
>> As I have said to many other lawyers, at the very least I have now
>> made you a witness to my pursuit of justice. I ask you simply the
>> following. What will you do with your newfound knowledge of Civil
>> Rights Violations and Government Corruption?
>> Best Regards
>> David R.Amos
>> 153 Alvin Ave.
>> Milton MA. 02186
>>
>> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:22 PM
>> Um, as I was saying about some people being, um, a bit....well,
>> "different."
>>
>> Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 27, 2005 09:12 PM
>> Did I mention that I found snotty Oxford dudes had stuffed shirts and
>> were great fun to poke fun at as they bullshit others about how smart
>> they are?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: marnie.ferguson@keyporter.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:08 PM
>> Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: deborahlbmc@yahoo.com ; egeetter@bu.edu ;
>> dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; lawrence_summers@harvard.edu ;
>> wrogersjr@therogerslawfirm.com ; thomas.hannigan@ropesgray.com ;
>> jotodd@toddweld.com
>> Cc: warren.tolman@hklaw.com ; dan@dankennedy.net ; w.kirtz@neu.edu ;
>> howiecarr@wrko.com ; bzelnick@bu.edu ; n.daniloff@neu.edu ;
>> barnicle@969fmtalk.com ; wsj.ltrs@wsj.com ; amy.wolfcale@dowjones.com
>> ; joseph.stern@dowjones.com ; letters@washpost.com ; fair@fair.org ;
>> editor@usatoday.com ; pressreleases@upi.com ; letters@time.com ;
>> newshour@pbs.org ; ombudsman@npr.org ; morning@npr.org ;
>> letters@newsweek.com ; nytnews@nytimes.com ;
>> dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; gillooly@dailyfreepress.com ;
>> dfpnews@dailyfreepress.com ; 48hours@cbsnews.com ; pr@ap.org ;
>> nightline@abcnews.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:21 PM
>> Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>>
>>
>> Hey
>>
>> It appears that all the Law Schools know nothing of ethical behavior
>> if it may affect their coffers. I made it my task to prove it. Lets
>> see if I can turn the worm and make the light dawn on Marblehead for
>> the benefit of all.
>>
>> Whereas Todd Klipp is on Legal Advisory Committee United Educators
>> (UE) Insurance Risk Retention Group I called Corporate Counsel, Jan
>> Holt and told her something is up and that I would be serving the Hard
>> Copy of the evidence that proves what I say is true upon Mr. Klipp. If
>> I were you I would go to the US District Court in Beantown, query the
>> dockets that bear my name and ask the BU professor Chief Justice Young
>> about his integrity and his association with crooks like Charles J.
>> Kickham Jr. and all of his cohorts.
>>
>> Cardinal Law would be a good witness to ask to start a proper
>> investigation that is if you can get whoever becomes the next US
>> Ambassador to the Vatican to make him fess up about his sins.
>> Otherwise ask his former secretary Robert Kickham he is now O'Malley's
>> secretary. I have no doubt that little bastard knows everything but
>> trust that the three legal stooges Todd, Rogers and Hannigan have told
>> him to shut up and wait for me to quit or die. However I think the
>> Kickhams will soon fold their hand and start rattin out others very
>> soon. Their is no honour amongst theives and I have the Kickhams
>> cornered after three years of hard work. Their big daddy Chucky is
>> dead and the rest of them are as dumb as a post. Uncle Franky has been
>> dead since last June and I have finally forced the court to admit it.
>> None of their accountings have been assented to by anyone and the IRS
>> must check their work before my wife will settle. the Feds have a big
>> problem and everybody knows its me.
>>
>> I am proud to say I won't quit and don't care if I die. I made certain
>> that my truths live on and that no Kickham relatives can no longer
>> claim to be kin to my little Clan. I refuse to allow my family to
>> associate with bible pounding criminals that expound of law nor will I
>> settle with them in order that they may escape justice. They must be
>> held accountable and so should all their friends.
>>
>> I may seem crazy but at least I know my rights and will not allow
>> wrongs against my family to go unpunished, particularly when the
>> wrongs are practiced by people well paid or licensed by the state to
>> insure that matters such as this never happen. If I am not crazy then
>> the governments of Canada and the USA must be insanely corrupt. I know
>> for a fact that there are a lot of ordinary people that agree with me
>> therefore I know I am OK but I have my doubts about you. i am giving
>> Mr. Klipp just enough evidence to impeach George Bush and for safe
>> measure I am giving the same material to many others as well. Here's
>> hoping ethics wins out after all. Otherwise we are all losers and the
>> crooks within such organizations as the Aspen Institute will keep on
>> advising the bastards on how to screw us all.
>>
>> The judges of the First Circuit of the US District Court have a lot to
>> be accountable for and Judge Young is well aware of it all. He has no
>> right to teach others about trial practice and the law until he proves
>> that he understands how to uphold the law. I will be suing the bastard
>> in short order you pick whether you wish to stand with him or me.
>> There is no middle ground in this legal battle for Boston University
>> to stand on. Judge Young is in your employ. However methinks he is no
>> longer a feather in your cap. The University has bragged to have such
>> a man to teach the students. What say you now?
>>
>> Trust that I don't care if anyone reads this email or not. In fact it
>> will be more fun if ya didn't.
>>
>> "The Honorable William G. Young was appointed judge of the U.S.
>> District Court for Massachusetts in 1984, after serving as associate
>> justice of the state’s Superior Court. Prior positions include special
>> assistant attorney general, chief counsel to the governor, and clerk
>> for the Honorable Raymond Wilkins, former chief justice of the
>> Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Judge Young has a long list of
>> pro bono activities, teaching experience, and several awards,
>> including the Award for Judicial Excellence from the Massachusetts
>> Academy of Trial Attorneys. Judge Young developed the course Advanced
>> Trial Practice and also teaches Evidence."
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: jb95@bu.edu
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:02 PM
>> Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: MauraH@ci.boston.ma.us ; maurah@maurahennigan.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:36 PM
>> Subject: I just called I am not kidding
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: info@pogo.org ; elliot.gerson@aspeninstitute.org ;
>> pat.zindulka@aspeninstitute.org ; peter. reiling@aspeninstitute.org ;
>> clark.ervin@aspeninstitute.org
>> Cc: brian@questionsquestions.net ; plough@ploughshares.ca ; moto
>> maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ; kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; backtalk@motherjones.com
>> ; Wes Penre@Illuminati News.com ; tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ;
>> david@davidakin.com ; McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
>> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
>> INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca ;
>> Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
>> Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
>> Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:30 AM
>> Subject: I just left voicemail for Jim Spiegelman
>>
>>
>> Hey Fellas
>> I have picked you Mr. Gerson to send exactly the same material that I
>> sent to two Solicitor Generals last year before I ran for Parliament
>> in Canada. I am certain that material caused Theodore Olson to quit
>> his job and your brand new fellow, Clark Kent Erwin to get the boot
>> from his job right after the last Yankee election.
>> Obviously I picked you because of your own bragging. There is no need
>> for me to expand upon things that you and I know to be true. It is
>> merely my task to prove to the world that you are well aware of my
>> concerns and allegations. Then if you and your Association does
>> nothing to uphold the public trust, I will make it my best effort to
>> embarrass you all in court in front of a jury of my peers. You people
>> claim to inspire people to ethical leaders? I say Bullshit. What say
>> you?
>> Say Hey to Superman for me. Will ya? Yea I know I just did but he
>> likes to keep everything in confidence while his cohorts keep me
>> falsely imprisoned. However I plan to call him to testify during my
>> pending criminal trial as I have the right to do. I should be very
>> interesting to see if he takes the fifth.
>> David R. Amos
>>
>>
>> "Elliot Gerson is responsible for the Aspen Institute's seminars,
>> including the Executive Seminar, topical and custom seminars, and
>> those offered in the Society of Fellows and Socrates programs. He also
>> manages the Institute's public programs and activities, including the
>> Aspen Ideas Festival. He is a graduate of Harvard College, Oxford
>> University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar, and Yale Law School. As
>> American Secretary of the Rhodes Trust, he manages the U.S. Rhodes
>> Scholarships and is an advisor to the Mandela Rhodes Foundation in
>> Cape Town, which focuses on African higher education and leadership.
>> He was a U. S. Supreme Court clerk and has had a career including the
>> practice of law, executive positions in state and federal government
>> and a presidential campaign, president of leading insurance and
>> healthcare companies, and service on many non-profit boards,
>> especially in the arts."
>>
>>
>> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:23 PM
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: backtalk@motherjones.com
>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:01 PM
>> Subject: Fw: Cya in court Cato
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ; tcarpent@cato.org ;
>> dboaz@cato.org ; rpilon@cato.org ; cpreble@cato.org ; tlynch@cato.org
>> ; blindsey@cato.org ; rlevy@cato.org ; tfirey@cato.org ;
>> ecrane@cato.org
>> Cc: Wes Penre@Illuminati News ; freedom_of_information@yahoogroups.com
>> ; Letters@globeandmail.ca ; webmaster@canadalawcourts.com ; lloyd
>> brinson ; J. D. Kuntz ; elois@newdata.ca ; Jack Hook ; John Bjornstrom
>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 8:47 PM
>> Subject: Cya in court Cato
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Tommy Boy
>> You invited me. These are your words correct? I tried to register on
>> line but your link does not work. I want to come. we should be in
>> agreement in most things but I know we are not and we should really
>> talk about it before I file my civil lawsuits. You people have already
>> proven to me your malice. this is your last chance to act ethically.
>> My criminal trial will begin shortly thereafter and I may call some of
>> you to testify at it. One of them could be you. I am one of those
>> people that many already turn to for an honest opinion. Right or wrong
>> they know my answer comes from sincere ethical consideration because I
>> am more a man of my word than legions of lawyers ever were. I am good
>> to my friends and sheer hell to my foes. I hate the false fronts of
>> integrity of the people you joke about within your following
>> invitation. You are joking. I am not.
>> Dear Friend,
>>
>> Would you like to be the person to whom others turn for an explanation
>> of the debate over Social Security and retirement, the economics of
>> international trade, or how to control pollution and protect the
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> Our goal is to help attendees become the people to whom their friends
>> turn to explain the economy and how political interference in markets
>> tends to generate disaster. And there's a reason it's being held in
>> Washington, D.C. You see, we want to change fundamentally the culture
>> of Washington, D.C. Washington's a very strange city. Most of the
>> people here spend their working days taking from Peter to give to Paul
>> (minus a substantial cut, of course). Or writing minute and
>> incomprehensible "regulations" on the optimal size of broccoli, or
>> warning people to wear sensible shoes, or just figuring out new ways
>> to strip American citizens of their rights and dignity.
>>
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>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> and Signed by you. Tom Palmer
>>
>> In order not to be somehow overlooked, I just called you cell phone to
>> cell phone so that I would have a record of contact to let you know we
>> had a problem to discuss. You were to busy to talk so you missed your
>> chance. Methinks you are a fine example of the reason your buddy Gene
>> Healy and his ilk ignored me. I read enough of your work to think you
>> are a very snotty tall talking whore for the Global Corps. I wanted to
>> hear your voice to be certain my feelings were correct. You did not
>> dissappoint me. If you don't like my opinion of you, sue me and bring
>> all these emails to court. I promise I will not file a motion to
>> dismiss. In fact I can't wait to meet your lawyers. I thought what you
>> said about Bobby Fischer was far more offensive and as you can see I
>> blogged in his defense. Many people call me crazy too. That seem to be
>> the label bad actors put on someone when they are cornered. I wanted
>> you to hear my voice so that you would understand that I am not nuts
>> but very sincere. when you shunned my last words were see you in
>> court. Ignore me some more and you certainly will. Check my work
>> before you laugh and call me crazy too.
>> In order to prove you all I am serious I will send Roger Pilon, Vice
>> President for Legal Affairs at 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.,
>> Washington D.C. 20001-5403 hard copy of exactly the same material I
>> sent to two Solicitor Generals last year just before I ran for
>> Parliament. Teddy Olson quit and went into private practice as soon as
>> Stephen Harper opened his mouth about the Arar Inquiry but thus far
>> Landslide Annie has hung onto hers. Now if you have any questions of
>> me before we meet, ask them to New Canadian Ambassador Franky Boy
>> McKenna. He knows exactly who I am and what has happened in the year
>> since. If you want a Yankee perspective ask John Ashcroft, John
>> Edwards. Tom Ridge, Clark Kent Ervin, Theodore Olson or David
>> Aufhauser to name a few. They all are now free agents and in the same
>> hot water as your buddy and now you.
>> I emailed ya, blogged ya, called ya and am now telling some your
>> friends plus a few of mine for good measure. Under Title 18 of the
>> federal code you are all as guilty as everyone else if you don't get
>> honest real fast. Ask Frank Quatronne and Martha Stewart about email
>> evidence in federal court
>> In light of the reasons I was falsely imprisoned and what I had sent
>> you dudes the year before it makes Cato's work in "Go Directly to
>> Jail: The Criminalization of Almost Everything." a total bullshit
>> piece of work. It is my job to properly shame you bastards so that
>> nobody will take you seriously ever again.
>>
>> "At one time, the sanction of the criminal law was reserved for
>> serious, morally culpable offenders. But during the past 40 years, an
>> unholy alliance of tough-on-crime conservatives and anti-big-business
>> liberals has utterly transformed the criminal law. Today, while
>> violent crime often goes unpunished, Congress continues to add new,
>> trivial offenses to the federal criminal code. With more than 4,000
>> federal offenses on the statute books, and thousands more buried in
>> the Code of Federal Regulations, it is now frighteningly easy for
>> American citizens to be hauled off to jail for actions that no
>> reasonable person would regard as crimes. At the same time, rampant
>> federalization and mandatory minimum sentencing are making America’s
>> criminal justice system ever more centralized and punitive. The result
>> is a labyrinthine criminal code, a burgeoning prison population, and
>> often real injustice. Go Directly to Jail examines those alarming
>> trends and proposes reforms that could rein in a criminal justice
>> apparatus at war with fairness and common sense."
>> If you dudes do not want me to turn up after being invited please let
>> me know why in writing and introduce me to the lawyer I will be
>> arguing someday in court.
>> David R. Amos
>> 153 Alvin Ave.
>> Milton, MA 02186
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: dante17678@hotmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:20 AM
>> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: rjvattuone@aol.com
>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:04 AM
>> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: lsewell@canadians.org
>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:27 AM
>> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: jeffryhouse@hotmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:03 AM
>> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca ; Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca ; Jack Layton ;
>> Easter.W@parl.gc.ca ; Cadman.C@parl.gc.ca ; Casey.B@parl.gc.ca ;
>> Thompson.G@parl.gc.ca
>> Cc: McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca ;
>> macaul1@parl.gc.ca ; Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca ; Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca ;
>> Anderson.D@parl.gc.ca ; Anderson.Da@parl.gc.ca ;
>> david.anderson1@sk.sympatico.ca
>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:12 PM
>> Subject: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>>
>>
>> I got a better one for ya Petey Boy. "Thar she blows". I bet Belinda
>> is really pissed off at everybody and is letting off some steam. If I
>> were you I would start bailing out of your new party like any other
>> rat that would desert a sinking ship. That is one boat that could
>> never float. The way you back stabbed your way into its creation will
>> likely never be forgotten. Some of the new Senators Martin just
>> appointed proved that didn't they? Right now you are just hanging on
>> and kissing Harper's arse because nobody else will ever trust you in
>> their Dory except maybe the diddler, Billy Matthews. He is used to
>> turningcoat and needs help bailing out his punky little craft. I think
>> the liberals are tired of him by now and Johnny Crosbie is likely
>> pretty pissed at him too. I think you two dudes should be good company
>> for each other as everybody else tries to distance themselves from a
>> couple of cry babies that call themselves Maritimers. You were born
>> there alright but a lair lawyer and a nasty old diddler reflect poorly
>> upon the rest of us. But bad apples fall from the best of trees. The
>> sooner the better so that they don't suck the sap out of the good
>> ones.
>> Dare to argue me Petey Boy? I am ten times meaner with no temper than
>> the man that pitches silly fits kicks chairs. I would kick your arse
>> in a good debate. I would laugh if you asked me to step outside, head
>> for the door and quit talking immediately in a sincere effort to kick
>> your arse in the street. Win or lose, rest assured I would have fun.
>> Fighting is a true Maritime tradition. EH MacKay? Feel free to try to
>> call me a liar. Everybody knows it would be a case of the pot trying
>> to call the kettle black.
>>
>> "The Nova Scotia MP described his relations with Conservative Leader
>> Stephen Harper as "hunky-dory, everything's great - that's a good
>> Maritime phrase."
>> Forwarded Message
>>
>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:14:47 -0800 (PST)
>>
>> From: David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>
>> Subject: Attn Don Amos
>>
>> To: MEC.investors@magnaent.com, dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca,
>> smay@pattersonpalmer.ca
>>
>> As I stated within an earlier email, Scott Daruty finally called me
>> back and pissed me off. He picked the wrong guy to try and toy with. I
>> will take up my concerns with Magna byway of Daruty and Cellucci down
>> here in the Yankee courts. I have much proof of what I sent Belinda
>> Stronach long before she ever became a Member of Parliament up home. I
>> will deal with her in a political fashion first to see if she is
>> interested in up holding the public trust while protecting her
>> interests in Magna. Good luck with your conscience as a lawyer named
>> Amos as you check my work. Here is my phone number 506 434-1379
>> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 506 434-1379
>> end_of_the_skype_highlighting if you have any questions before
>> deciding whether or not to uphold the law and protect the investor's
>> interests in Magna from my necessary civil actions. I gave my material
>> to Argeo P. Cellucci in Canada in July of 2002 before I sent the
>> Sheriffs out with my first complaints. I know by the fax numbers at
>> the top of my first complaint that it was Ashcroft and Cellucci that
>> directed the US Attorney to try to make my complaints evaporate. Now
>> that Cellucci speaks for Magna and Belinda speaks for Canadians there
>> is a couple of Amos boys that should have along talk about many
>> things. But forget trying to label me as your brother until I am
>> assured of your integrity. I have a high contempt towards lawyers and
>> their sense of ethics for very justifiable reasons.
>>
>> Note: forwarded message attached.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca ; moto maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ;
>> kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; danthebagelman@msn.com ; info@electtomobrien.com ;
>> lcampenella@ledger.com ; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; newsonline@bbc.co.uk ;
>> Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
>> Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
>> Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ;
>> MEC.investors@magnaent.com
>> Cc: zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ; savoya2@parl.gc.ca ;
>> thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ;
>> martib@sen.parl.gc.ca ; dougchristielaw@shaw.ca ;
>> Mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ; Stephen.Murphy@ci.boston.ma.us ;
>> Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
>> johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ; brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca ;
>> McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
>> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
>> INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca
>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:14 PM
>> Subject: Shame on you Della
>>
>>
>> At least I am a man of my word. I called you personally as I stated I
>> would. I have the record of the call that I was directed to do by your
>> boss, Stevey Boy May. Too bad you would not speak to me to protect
>> your own interests. At least I have your signature because no word
>> from you is worthless to me. You can never claim ignorance of my
>> concerns after directing me to your lawyer. I stuck my hand out to you
>> as a layman but you had picked your friends the lawyers and had
>> enlisted them to bite it? Do you really Think I am afraid of dealing
>> with the likes of Johnny Crosbie and Stevey Boy May when I am
>> preparing a lawsuit against the likes of John Edwards, John Ashcroft
>> and Theodore Olson to name a few? Plus there is the irrefutable fact
>> that you and the law firm you work for have already admitted that you
>> are aware of the crimes practiced against me. You have done nothing to
>> uphold the law and have already filed the evidence of that fact in the
>> Newfoundland Supreme Court. Lady, either I or my estate will bankrupt
>> you and your firm with its own sworn testimony that you witnessed. You
>> can take that to the bank. The first question I must ask you Della
>> what did your law fir do with its copy of the police surveillance tape
>> # 139 and did you listen to it? You should not have because you are
>> not an officer of the court nor are you employed by law enforcement.
>> The Lieutenant Governor Roberts notified me that he had given his
>> copies of the material to Tommy Marshall to be investigated but I have
>> received no word from your law firm as to what the hell they did with
>> their copies. Have your lawyers explain their integrity to you because
>> you and I will never come to an understanding of ethical behavior
>> after your treatment of me today. I often sing the praises of Newfys
>> because they are amongst the nicest folks on the planet excepting of
>> course their lawyers and their cohorts such as you Della. By the way I
>> heard about the clerks in Supreme Court having a little wager over who
>> buys lunch if I managed to do what I said I would do. I would like to
>> meet the lady who felt I was as serious as a heart attack and willing
>> to buy lunch if I was not a man of my word. I would love to buy her
>> lunch some time because the courts need more folks like her in their
>> employment. She clearly did not disregard the word of a common man.
>> On the other hand after our exchange of the mere few words today it
>> would not be wise for me to trust your word or typing if I had left
>> the voicemail you desired. I have much evidence of many edited
>> transcripts of things I have said in the past. You and I will argue
>> them some day no doubt byway of your lawyer friends because I think
>> you don't speak pro se very well in order to protect your personal
>> interests. I just got off the phone with one of Frank Stronach's
>> Yankee lawyers Scott Daruty. He did me the service of really pissing
>> me off today by finally calling me back after I had torn a piece off
>> of Magna in Canada about his neglect of duty on their behalf. He
>> thought he was funny by joking that the Canadian lawyer, Don Amos was
>> my brother. No lawyer is a brother of mine. He thought I was joking
>> when I told him I would sue him personally if he did not uphold the
>> law and rat out Magna's brand new Vice President his brother, Argeo P.
>> Cellucci so I had to repeat myself so he would understand me in no
>> uncertain terms. I do make a lot of jokes about very serious business
>> however it would not be wise to underestimate my sincerity and attempt
>> to toy with me. I enjoy a good fight win or lose as long as I stand on
>> the right side of the battle. You just picked a fight with me lady on
>> a day when I ain't taking prisoners from lawyers or their cohorts. All
>> lawyers are liars and I have proven it. It is only laymen I will
>> settle with from now on and only if they tell the truth, the whole
>> truth and nothing but the truth.
>> I don't care if your god helps you or not. We can all do it again in
>> hell for all I care.
>> From now on I must rely on hard copy of my own creation. For now I
>> will send you and Stevey Boy a bunch of emails that have been
>> forwarded to many other people first. I require the record of doing
>> so. Whereas I have no doubt Stevey Boy will wan to argue about the
>> emails I have already sent I figure why not be hung for a cow as a
>> calf? Since everything in heaven and hell is done in threes. I will
>> forward to Magna's lawyer, Don Amos, Stevey Boy and three large emails
>> that contain Tiff files. There is no need to be redundant with hard
>> copy already sent to Scott Daruty and Johnny Crosbie. You can tell the
>> folks at Patterson Palmer who directed you to offend me that the
>> emails contain exactly the same documents that Greg Byrne and Johnny
>> Crosbie received and that you should all prepare to argue every word
>> within in them. The first email contains a file called Big Day. It
>> contains every document I served upon Two Solicitors Generals Theodore
>> Olson and Anne McLellan before I ran for Parliament and Olson quit his
>> job on June 24th immediately after Johnny Crosbie told Stevey Harper
>> to shut up about the Arar Inquiry. the second file is called Big
>> Canada Add and it is a copy of the documents served upon my political
>> opponents while running for Parliament. Last but not least are what
>> was added to the first to pile of documents and then served upon
>> Patterson and Palmer by way of Greg Byrne.
>> Scott Daruty is receiving the documents within "Big Day" and other
>> interesting material that Magna should find quite interesting to say
>> the least. Magna really made my day when they appointed Cellucci and
>> their new VP. I is comical that he is going to lobby the government
>> about horse racing especially after listening to what is recorded on a
>> lot of the tapes and the fact that the top dog of the RCMP had to
>> teach that dumb Yankee how to ride a horse last summer so that he
>> would not make an ass out himself at the Calgary Stampede. This was
>> almost as rich as when Martin sent Franky McKenna to Washington after
>> he and I had a spit and chew about dogs and pork. At least I am clever
>> enough to realize when I am a lucky man and how to make the best out
>> of a golden opportunity to see that justice is served upon some very
>> nasty bastards. I am very pissed off but still having more fun than
>> ten men. I love cornering lawyers and listening to them stutter and
>> try to duck the issues. I will wager that you are having a bad day
>> too. EH Della? It looks good on you if you are. Why not get mad? I
>> hope you share your anger with the others at Patterson and Palmer and
>> start bitchin about me. Never forget all I want is the truth from you.
>> It will cost you nothing. Why do you want to stand with crooks and
>> liars for a days pay? I bet you have witnessed lots of dirty dealings.
>> I truly beleive that there is no honour in your work. To me working
>> for lawyers is like a lady being sent to a nunnery in Medieval times.
>> I share ol Shake's opinion of such a place. Times changes nothing
>> lawyers still work for Jesuits. Look around downtown St John's and
>> call me a liar. I dare ya. Even the name of the town says it all.
>> Cya'll in Court:)
>> David R. Amos
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Amos
>> To: dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca ; moto maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ;
>> kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; danthebagelman@msn.com ; info@electtomobrien.com ;
>> lcampenella@ledger.com ; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; newsonline@bbc.co.uk ;
>> Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
>> Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
>> Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com
>> Cc: zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ; savoya2@parl.gc.ca ;
>> thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ;
>> martib@sen.parl.gc.ca ; dougchristielaw@shaw.ca ;
>> Mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ; Stephen.Murphy@ci.boston.ma.us ;
>> Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
>> johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ; brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca ;
>> McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
>> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
>> INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca
>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:33 AM
>> Subject: RE: Me versus Patterson and Palmer
>>
>>
>> Hey Della,
>> I see that Stevey Boy is on vacation and told me to contact you. I am
>> happy to hear that he is saving all of my emails in a special spot for
>> some apparent future litigation. I keep very good records as well and
>> look forward to his argument but I will wager that I sue him first.
>> I see by the following Affidavit you witnessed and Stevey Boy filed in
>> court that every lawyer within Patterson Palmer is a flat out liar. I
>> served Greg Byryne in Fredericton myself with witnesses before Byron
>> Prior served everyone else in Newfoundland. If Byrne did not share the
>> info with his buddy Johnny Crosbie, it is not my fault. Yet I suspect
>> that he did so out of the gate because he sent me an email in which it
>> appears that he was conferring with many others about me and my
>> concerns. It was too funny that Byrne clicked the wrong button and
>> forwarded his email to me as well.
>> I also sent many of your people the same emails that I sent to Byrne
>> and May as soon as I got out off jail last October and Stevey Boy
>> first contacted Byron Prior and I had called him. (Thank you for
>> making a transcript of my voicemail and filing it in court for me. It
>> is quite hard for me to make lawyers even admit that I exist) Some of
>> the aforesaid emails were responded to by other members of your law
>> firm byway of their computers like Stevey Boy's just did. At least
>> computers are far more honest than the lawyers that own them. I am
>> compelled to rely on the integrity of their machines and the ability
>> of their computers and mine to keep perfect records. (Never forget I
>> am being prosecuted for sending an email to a lawyer I have been
>> litigating against for years who even went as far to fraudulently
>> create a document bearing my signature) Because of the fact I can
>> prove contact with many members of the law firm you work for, they can
>> never say that they did not know of my concerns and allegations long
>> before Stevey complained of Byron Prior's actions on behalf of his
>> client Billy Matthews. He only went forward with his malicious threat
>> when he thought my goose was cooked down here. There is quite simply
>> no way you could have prepared his filing on January 21st and he had
>> Judge green sign it in the time between Byron had served it and the
>> Judge signed it without the Bastards reading our private emails and
>> listening to our phone calls. I sent the last email containing the
>> words to Byron's counterclaim just before I went to court that morning
>> and he only managed to see it filed by 3 PM Newfy time. You may be a
>> fast typists but the courts don't work that fast unless they are
>> covering up something big time. No know as well as I that is true
>> because the judge and Stevey Boy do not even want other lawyers to
>> view the public record. Small wonder he took a vacation. If Stevey Boy
>> has any semblance of a conscience he no doubt has trouble dealing with
>> himself. I can only wonder if he and Johnny Crosbie are singing for
>> more tequila right now.
>> As you no doubt know I am preparing to defend myself in a criminal
>> trial in the USA and filing some rather profound civil lawsuits in
>> Canada and the USA that will make the whining of Billy Matthews in
>> Newfoundland Supreme court seem rather comical. I will be filing
>> copies of the documents you no doubt helped create for Stevey Boy May
>> on behalf of your law firm in many courts.
>> If Greg Byrne, the former Minister of Justice and Attorney General of
>> New Brunswick had acted ethically last September while I was in Canada
>> and under Brad Green's jurisdiction I would not have been falsely
>> imprisoned in the USA the following month. I will be suing him, your
>> law firm and many others for personal injury and conspiracy to cover
>> up the many crimes practiced against my Clan and I. My question to
>> you, Della is why don't I sue you too? As you can see if you have read
>> my work my battle is with corrupt lawyers not layman. I would settle
>> with you in a heartbeat for costs if you would be honest about all
>> that you know to be true. If you decide to go against me I suggest
>> that you seek legal counsel outside of your law firm or in fact all of
>> Newfoundland. I am about to take on every damned lawyer within the
>> Newfoundland law Society. You would not be wise to doubt me before you
>> have a look at my work in the USA. I will deal with Newfys under the
>> heading of fun after I have embarrassed the Yankees.
>> I will give you a call as Stevey Boy suggests so that at least you can
>> understand that I am not an unreasonable person and not the sort of
>> person that lawyers claim that I am. I am just a simple, sincere and
>> serious man that refuses to play the wicked games lawyers play. I am
>> willing to die in order to expose the truth. No lawyer can say that.
>> they love money to much to be willing to miss the chance to spend it.
>> Judge me for yourself and your own best interests before you choose
>> whom to stand with.
>> Whether you believe me or not I am battling for your rights as well as
>> my own. I am forwarding this email to many ordinary people like you
>> and me. To Hell with the lawyers and politicians. They do what they do
>> for personal gain not public service. Their concerns are lucre not
>> justice and everybody knows it. All I did was go to great lengths to
>> prove it. There is no need for you and I to argue about simple truths.
>> As far as I am concerned up until the time you received this email all
>> you have done is type things and witness signatures. However you
>> cannot say that anymore.
>> My pending phone call to you is not harassment. I need the Yankee
>> phone bill record of my call to you in order to assist in the defence
>> of my freedom in the USA. Stevey Boy told me to call ya. Please be
>> nice. After today you can't say that you are not involved in my false
>> imprisonment in the USA. I am doing no more or less than Stevey Boy
>> and his malicious clients would do if the same thing had happened to
>> them. If Billy Matthews had been summoned to the USA while he was
>> running for his seat in Parliament to be presecuted by an unsigned
>> criminal complaint and then held without bail under the charges of
>> "other", he would be more pissed off than I am.
>> Cya'll in Court:)
>> David R. Amos
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "May, Steve"
>> To: "David Amos"
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:32 PM
>> Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Dan and Tom Remember me
>>
>>
>> Mr. May is out of the office till 11 April 2005. He will not be
>> checking his e-mail. Please contact Della Hart at 709-570-5527
>> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 709-570-5527
>> end_of_the_skype_highlighting or dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca if you
>> require immediate assistance.
>>
>>
>> 2005 01 T 0010
>> IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR
>> TRIAL DIVISION
>> BETWEEN:
>> WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF
>> AND:
>> BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT
>>
>> AND BETWEEN:
>> BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT/PLAINTIFF
>> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>>
>> AND: WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF/FIRST DEFENDANT
>> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>>
>> AND: T. ALEX HICKMAN SECOND DEFENDANT
>> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>>
>> AND: THOMAS MARSHALL THIRD DEFENDANT
>> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>>
>> AND: DANNY WILLIAMS FOURTH DEFENDANT
>> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>>
>> AND: EDWARD M. ROBERTS FIFTH DEFENDANT
>> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>>
>> AND: JOHN CROSBIE SIXTH DEFENDANT
>> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>>
>> AND: PATTERSON PALMER SEVENTH DEFENDANT
>> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>> SUMMARY OF CURRENT DOCUMENTCourt File Number(s):2005 01 T 0010Date of
>> Filing of Document:25 January 2005Name of Filing Party or
>> Person:Stephen J. MayApplication to which Document being filed
>> relates:Amended Application of the Plaintiff/Defendant by Counterclaim
>> to maintain an Order restricting publication, to strike portions of
>> the Statement of Defence, strike the Counterclaim in it’s entirety,
>> and to refer this proceeding to case management.Statement of purpose
>> in filing:To maintain an Order restricting publication, to strike
>> portions of the Statement of Defence, strike the Counterclaim in its
>> entirety and refer this proceeding to case management.
>> A F F I D A V I T
>>
>> I, Stephen J. May, of the City of St. John’s, in the Province of
>> Newfoundland and Labrador, Barrister and Solicitor, make oath and say
>> as follows:
>>
>> THAT I am a Partner in the St. John’s office of PATTERSON PALMER
>> solicitors for William Matthews, the Member of Parliament for
>> Random-Burin-St. George’s in the Parliament of Canada.
>>
>> THAT Mr. Matthews originally retained Mr. Edward Roberts, Q.C. on or
>> about 30 April 2002 after Mr. Byron Prior, the Defendant/Plaintiff by
>> Counterclaim, had made allegations against Mr. Matthews in a
>> publication called “My Inheritance - The truth - Not Fiction: A Town
>> with a Secret”. In that publication, the allegation was made that Mr.
>> Matthews had had sex with a girl who had been prostituted by her
>> mother. That girl was alleged to have been Mr. Prior’s sister.
>>
>> THAT upon being retained, Mr. Edward Roberts wrote a letter to Mr.
>> Prior. That letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit “1" to my
>> Affidavit.
>>
>> THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts’ letter to Mr. Prior, Mr. Roberts
>> received a 1 May 2002 e-mail from Mr. Prior. That e-mail is attached
>> as Exhibit “2".
>>
>> THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts receipt of the e-mail, Mr. Prior swore
>> an Affidavit acknowledging that what had been said in that publication
>> was false. That Affidavit is attached as Exhibit “3" to my Affidavit.
>> Following Mr. Roberts’ receipt of that Affidavit, Mr. Matthews advised
>> that he was satisfied not to pursue the matter any further and our
>> firm closed our file.
>>
>> THAT on or about 25 October 2004, I was retained by Mr. Matthews
>> following his gaining knowledge that a web site, made a series of
>> allegations against him relating to my having sex with a girl of
>> approximately 12 years old through to an approximate age of 15 years
>> old. It also accused him of being a father of one of her children and
>> accused him of having raped that girl. Upon checking the web site I
>> saw that Byron Prior, the Defendant, had been identified as the author
>> of the material on the site.
>>
>> THAT Mr. Matthews instructed me to write Mr. Prior, to remind him of
>> the fact that the allegations had been admitted to being false through
>> a 16 May 2002 Affidavit to advise him of Mr. Matthews’ intentions to
>> commence legal proceedings if the comments were not removed from the
>> web site. A copy of my letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit “4"
>> to this Affidavit.
>>
>> THAT I attach as Exhibit “5" a transcript from a 5 November 2004
>> voicemail left by David Amos, identified in the voicemail as a friend
>> of Mr. Prior.
>>
>> THAT I attach as Exhibit “6" a portion of a 6 November 2004 e-mail
>> from Mr. Amos.
>>
>> THAT until I received his voicemail and e-mail, I had never heard of Mr.
>> Amos.
>>
>> THAT Mr. Amos has continued to send me e-mail since his 5 November
>> e-mail. Including his 6 November 2004 e-mail, I have received a total
>> of 15 e-mails as of 23 January 2005. All do not address Mr. Matthews’
>> claim or my involvement as Mr. Matthews’ solicitor. I attach as
>> Exhibit “7" a portion of a 12 January 2005 e-mail that Mr. Amos sent
>> to me but originally came to my attention through Ms. Lois Skanes
>> whose firm had received a copy. This e-mail followed the service of
>> the Statement of Claim on 11 January 2005 on Mr. Prior. I also attach
>> as Exhibit “8" a copy of a 19 January 2005 e-mail from Mr. Amos.
>>
>> THAT I attach as Exhibit “9" a copy of a 22 November 2004 letter
>> addressed to me from Edward Roberts, the Lieutenant Governor of
>> Newfoundland and Labrador covering a 2 September 2004 letter from Mr.
>> Amos addressed to John Crosbie, Edward Roberts, in his capacity as
>> Lieutenant Governor, Danny Williams, in his capacity as Premier of
>> Newfoundland and Labrador, and Brian F. Furey, President of the Law
>> Society of Newfoundland and Labrador. I requested a copy of this
>> letter from Government House after asking Mr. Roberts if he had
>> received any correspondence from Mr. Amos during his previous
>> representation of Mr. Matthews. He advised me that he received a
>> letter since becoming Lieutenant Governor, portions of which involved
>> his representation of Mr. Matthews. Mr. Roberts’ letter also covered
>> his reply to Mr. Amos.
>>
>> THAT I attach as Exhibit “10" an e-mail from Mr. Amos received on
>> Sunday, 23 January 2005.
>>
>> THAT I swear this Affidavit in support of the Application to strike
>> Mr. Prior’s counterclaim.
>>
>>
>> SWORN to before me at
>> St. John’s, Province of Newfoundland
>> and Labrador this 24th day of
>> January, 2005.
>>
>>
>> Signed by Della Hart STEPHEN J. MAY Signature
>> STAMP
>> DELLA HART
>> A Commissioner for Oaths in and for
>> the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.
>> My commission expires on December 31, 2009.
>> The Conservatives in Canada have very Punky Dory EH Tommy Boy?
>>
>> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:26 PM
>> The Cato dudes ain't got nothin on me when it comes to letter writing.
>> Here is where I am teasing abunch of dumb Yankees. The whole world
>> calls our Newfys dumb. So what does that say of Danny williams the
>> Premier? He is a Rhodes Scholar that works for free. Is he dumb or
>> evil? I will have to ask the Aspen Dudes have I attend Tommy's little
>> hoe down EH?
>>
>> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:38 PM
>> http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2005/03/former_dhs_insp.html#comments
>> HMMM no link we will try this way ok?
>>
>> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:40 PM
>> I'm very proud to have had such a person as David Amos, help us with
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>> you David.
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>>
>> Posted by: MFH at January 24, 2006 02:05 PM
>> Post a comment
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:35:16 -0300
>> Subject: Fwd: I called the crook from Calgary Jason Kenney to remind
>> him of the documents his office recieved from during the election of
>> the 40th Parliament
>> To: breitg@parl.gc.ca, hollam@parl.gc.ca, Mourani.Ma@parl.gc.ca,
>> wrzesb@parl.gc.ca, Kania.A@parl.gc.ca, McColeman.P@parl.gc.ca,
>> gloves@parl.gc.ca, rick@ricknorlock.ca, macked@parl.gc.ca,
>> Desnoyers.L@parl.gc.ca, rathgb0@parl.gc.ca, SECU@parl.gc.ca
>> Cc: zorroboy2009@hotmail.com, tony@peoplestandup.ca,
>> waterwarcrimes@gmail.com, whistleblower ,
>> "ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca" , vickiconrad
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos
>> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 19:33:09 -0300
>> Subject: Fwd: I called the crook from Calgary Jason Kenney to remind
>> him of the documents his office recieved from during the election of
>> the 40th Parliament
>> To: peter.teasdale@gov.ab.ca, larry.stein@gov.ab.ca
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos
>> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:52:15 -0300
>> Subject: I called the crook from Calgary Jason Kenney to remind him of
>> the documents his office recieved from during the election of the 40th
>> Parliament
>> To: kennej@parl.gc.ca, godiny , toewsv1
>> , Mackap , robin reid
>> , "ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca"
>> , tony ,
>> WaterWarCrimes , "Wayne.Lang"
>> , "John.DeWinter"
>> , billestabrooks
>>
>> Cc: pm , "info@gg.ca" , info
>> , info , IgnatM
>> , LaytoJ
>>
>> His snotty help picked a very bad day to play games with me EH Vic
>> Toews? Although Kenney never cared about my human rights as he laughed
>> while i was falsely imprisoned and my children were sexualy harassed
>> and threatened at least he cannot deny receiving my documents twice
>> thanx to an ethical government computer EH stevey boy Harper?
>>
>> http://www.jasonkenney.ca/EN/contact_jason/
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Minister
>> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:39:27 -0400
>> Subject: RE: Sept 23rd is coming fast for another Yankee War Resister
>> eh Mr Harper?
>> To: David Amos
>>
>>
>>
>> La version française suit.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos
>> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 04:09:14 -0300
>> Subject: Sept 23rd is coming fast for another Yankee War Resister eh Mr
> Harper?
>> To: "Harper.S@parl.gc.ca" , Minister@cic.gc.ca,
>> Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, resisters@sympatico.ca,
>> Layton.J@parl.gc.ca
>> Cc: nelsonresisters@gmail.com, montrealresisters@hotmail.com,
>> vlannon@pacificcoast.net, goresisters@gmail.com,
>> londonresisters@yahoo.ca, vanresisters@yahoo.ca,
>> laverne_mott@ao.uscourts.gov, Angus.C@parl.gc.ca,
>> Atamenenko.A@parl.gc.ca, Bell.C@parl.gc.ca, Bevington.D@parl.gc.ca,
>> Black.D@parl.gc.ca, Blaikie.B@parl.gc.ca, Charlton.C@parl.gc.ca,
>> Chow.O@parl.gc.ca, Christopherson.D@parl.gc.ca, Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca,
>> Crowder.J@parl.gc.ca, Cullen.N@parl.gc.ca, Davies.L@parl.gc.ca,
>> Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca, Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca, Julian.P@parl.gc.ca,
>> Marston.W@parl.gc.ca, Martin.P@parl.gc.ca, Martin.T@parl.gc.ca,
>> Masse.B@parl.gc.ca, Mathyssen.I@parl.gc.ca, McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca,
>> Nash.P@parl.gc.ca, Priddy.P@parl.gc.ca, Savoie.D@parl.gc.ca,
>> Siksay.B@parl.gc.ca, Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca, Wasylycia-Leis.J@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> When do ya think one will ignore his dumb lawyer such as Jeffry House,
>> sprout some balls, print a pdf file and say my name?
>>
>> Before polling day would benefit all Canadains not just the wannabes and
>> the
>> wannabe Prime Ministers eh Jacky boy Layton? .
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>>
>> If your too chicken to print a pdf file perhaps you can watch Youtube
>> then
>> EH Jacky Boy Layton?
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga2phTOe9es
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPkRu0dNPUc
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos
>> Date: Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:16 PM
>> Subject: Maybe Corey Glass should contact me before Harper gives him the
>> boot EH? 506 756 8687
>> To: nelsonresisters@gmail.com, montrealresisters@hotmail.com,
>> vlannon@pacificcoast.net, goresisters@gmail.com,
>> londonresisters@yahoo.ca,
>> vanresisters@yahoo.ca
>> Cc: Minister@cic.gc.ca, Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca,
>> resisters@sympatico.ca
>>
>>
>> http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hyjp9Xz2qeSoFhQcp6NFNoe97D-Q
>>
>> His purported friend Lee Zaslofsky would not give me his contact
>> number for some strange reason i will never understand.
>>
>> I would lay odds that would have be different if I had been elected
>> in the last couple of elections or was player within one of the
>> established politcal parties. It certainly appears to me that fellow
>> concerned Canadian citizens don't count to American war protesters and
>> their outspoken supporters unless they are politcally connected EH
>> Mikey Ignatieff AKA Canada's Prince of Darkness south of the 49th?
>>
>> That said I cannot begin to try to help anyone unless they learn how
>> to help themselves and that starts with picking up the phone retuning
>> calls and answering emails. N'est Pas Stevey Boy Harper?
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos
>> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:17:23 -0300
>> Subject: Your tally of blogs about me to date dictates that maybe you
>> can inspire a war resister such as Corey Glass to contact me before
>> Harper gives him the boot.
>> To: danf@danf.net, pm@pm.gc.ca
>> Cc: irishmike02@yahoo.com, common_ills@yahoo.com, Dion.S@parl.gc.ca,
>> Bevilacqua.M@parl.gc.ca, vancouvercatholicworker@yahoo.ca
>>
>> Like you everybody thinks I am a nut excepting of course Stevey Boy
>> Harper and the dummy Dion. They just flat out hate me. Nest Pas?
>>
>>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/06/david-amos-vs-bcs-liberal-premier.html
>>
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Seasonal power rates lack support and upset 'social compact,' NB Power tells EUB

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Methinks CBC and its fellow Crown Corporation NB Power were not wiae to ignore the concerns of Roger Richard and two other interveners that Mr Jones had never named deliberately N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-eub-season-power-rates-1.5627941


Seasonal power rates lack support and upset 'social compact,' NB Power tells EUB

Low summer, high winter electricity prices viewed as fairer, but NB Power detects no public support

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Jun 26, 2020 7:00 AM AT


NB Power is asking the EUB not to implement winter and summer pricing for electricity, arguing residential customers have not been adequately consulted. (Catherine Harrop/CBC)

Charging NB Power residential customers substantially more for electricity in the winter to better reflect the costs of supplying power in New Brunswick, even if combined with discounts in the summer, is likely to trigger resistance in the public and should be dropped as an idea at least for now, the utility is arguing.

"Current rates inherently reflect a long-standing social compact," NB Power told the Energy and Utilities Board in a submission late last month arguing against a switch to "seasonal" rates in the near future.

"NB Power is not aware of a general preference by customers or policy-makers for such a change from the historical allocation."

NB Power has been in the middle of an on-again off-again hearing over the last three years into how it prices electricity. It was ordered by the EUB with the goal to make what NB Power charges fairer between customers and tied more closely to the costs of supplying power.

 
NB Power's new president, Keith Cronkhite, left, told the EUB last winter that electric heat demand can be expensive to supply on some days but is not as large of a problem for the utility as critics claim. (Robert Jones/CBC)

Because it is more expensive for NB Power to generate electricity in the winter than in the summer, one of the early recommendations was the utility adopt pricing to reflect that difference with distinct winter and non-winter rates.

Call for fairer pricing

Christensen Associates Energy Consulting, hired by NB Power back in 2017 to offer advice on changes, suggested winter electricity prices for residential customers up to 66 per cent higher than summer prices would more fairly distribute costs between residential customers who heat with electricity and those who don't.

"About 63 per cent of NB Power's residential customers have winter space heating loads. Such heating customers are more expensive to serve than non-heating customers because they consume relatively more power during the winter on-peak hours when electricity is most expensive in New Brunswick," wrote the consultants.
Summertime energy demand is low in New Brunswick and supplied mostly by NB Power's lowest marginal cost generators, like the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station which consumes 7/10ths of a cent of nuclear fuel for every kilowatt hour of electricity it produces.

But the Christensen report noted winter cold snaps require turning on more inefficient generators to bolster the supply, like the Coleson Cove oil and petroleum coke generating plant which eats up almost 14 cents in fuel for every kilowatt hour it produces.


NB Power's Coleson Cove oil and petroleum coke generating station is the utility's highest cost supplier and normally runs just 20 days a year during extreme cold snaps when electric heat demand peaks. (Matthew Bingley/CBC)

Current pricing spreads those costs among every residential customer even though it is caused by those using electric heat.

"The simplest way to substantially reduce cross-subsidies between heating and non-heating customers would be to replace the current residential rate with a seasonal rate that would have winter energy prices about 66 per cent higher than summer prices," said the Christensen report.

That idea seemed to gain momentum last year when a second consultant hired by the EUB held a series of workshops about electricity pricing that found a broad consensus among "stakeholders" in favour of seasonal pricing.

"I saw consensus developing around seasonal rates," said Ahmad Faruqui, a San Francisco-based consultant, during an EUB hearing last month about those stakeholder workshops.

Public input needed, says utility

But in a written submission after that hearing, NB Power expressed doubts the public would embrace seasonal rates and said stakeholders who liked the idea do not represent residential customers.

"The stakeholder group's makeup was not representative of the general population," said NB Power in its submission.


"Even though much of the discussion was about residential rates, residential customers did not have a formal representative in attendance at the sessions. Residential customers, as a class, lack direct representation and do not have the applied resources and expertise that some other customers have."



Public intervener Heather Black was one of 11 participants in electricity rate design workshops in 2019. The sessions developed a consensus that "seasonal rates" for residential customers would be worth pursuing. It is an idea NB Power is opposing and Black says needs more study. (CBC)

Participants in the 2019 stakeholder sessions included representatives of NB Power, the EUB, J.D. Irving Ltd., Liberty Utilities, public intervenor Heather Black, municipal governments, municipal electric utilities, the Canadian Federation of Independent Business and individual concerned citizens.

NB Power said major changes to the way the public is charged for electricity needs substantially more public input and recommended the termination of the current three-year-old process in favour of starting over later this year or next.

"Future proceedings would start with a fresh record and a contemporary group of interested parties," it argued.



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Roger Richard
Methinks I am not the only independent intervener left behind, N’esy pas. 






Roger Richard
Someone has to pay for those fancy smart meters: Luxury items that we cannot afford. Analogue meters are safe and dependable for decades more than smart meters! Smart meters are like smart phones. How long are you expecting your smart phone to last? 








David Peters
No wonder they attempt to bury such an important story by releasing it on a sunny, warm Friday, in late June...when the secret meeting was held late last month. There is a lot of things to question here that greatly affect virtually every single person in NB.

Breaking up centralized control of the energy and transportation sectors would benefit a vast majority of New Brunswickers virtually over-night, imo.

To say this is an important file, is a ridiculous understatement. 













Dallas Mcquarrie
Charging NB Power residential customers substantially more for electricity in the winter to better reflect the costs of supplying power in New Brunswick ... is putting the financial boots to pensioners and others on fixed income as well the working poor and those already living in poverty. New Brunswick residents need electricity every month of the year, and it is not an optional consumer item. Charging more in the winter is just a polite way to say "price gouging" because everyone must use more power in the winter, or live in darkness and, for some, give up heat. How about higher rates for heavy industrial users - their consumption does not light or heat homes,or keep food safe in fridges and freezers! No, that wouldn't do! This is New Brunswick where people are hardly the top priority of government and its boards, agencies and corporations. 
 

Mary Smith
Reply to @Dallas Mcquarrie: What NB power should do is follow in NS's and other provinces footsteps and have rent to own mini-splits for NB'ers. Lower bills for everyone, less power consumption too -- it's a win-win. Along with programs so people can insulate their homes better (there is a program already for lower income NB'ers and seniors, but there's a lot of hoops to go through and I'm unsure if that program still exists, and the income cap is really, really low so most do not qualify).


Fred Brewer
Reply to @Mary Smith: NB Power does not want that. They pretend that they do, but in reality they need us to consume as much electricity as possible in an attempt to stay profitable.



























Roger Richard
“ Participants in the 2019 stakeholder sessions included representatives of NB Power, the EUB, J.D. Irving Ltd., Liberty Utilities, public intervenor Heather Black, municipal governments, municipal electric utilities, the Canadian Federation of Independent Business and individual concerned citizens.” I am one of the interveners that are not mention in the article. It is frustrating that we cannot talk about the other side of the story.


Fred Brewer
Reply to @Roger Richard: If you provided a written statement to the EUB, it will be on their website. But in the meantime, you have a forum here. What was the essence of your presentation to the EUB? Nobody is muzzling you.


Roger Richard
Reply to @Fred Brewer: They have already signed the contracts and it will cost lots if we refuse the smart meters. Incidentally, it will cost us more if we accept smart meters both financially and environmentally. My main concern is their effects on our health. 

 
Roger Richard 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: The idea of the process is to implement the smart meters in NB. They say it is to bring NB Power in the twenty-first century. Smart meters will cost us much more in so many ways.


Fred Brewer 
Reply to @Roger Richard: I totally agree, yet I am afraid NB Power will get what it wants.


Roger Richard
Reply to @Fred Brewer: They have already signed the contracts and it will cost lots if we refuse the smart meters. Incidentally, it will cost us more if we accept smart meters both financially and environmentally. My main concern is their effects on our health.

























John Valcourt
NB Power take more than their fair share in rates from residents in New Brunswick. They are just so bad at managing the money that they take from us that no amount will ever be enough. It is like the premier and his gas taxes. So we need to eliminate smart meters and eliminate raising the power rates and eliminate all the upper brass at NB Power and get new people leading OUR corporation and see if they can better manage the money they are taking from us and make wiser investments instead of huge bonuses and snake oil projects.


Roger Richard
Reply to @John Valcourt: Very true. I am afraid that if we continue our government will decide to sell NB Power to the Americans like they did in Nova Scotia. Actually we already have three Americans on our Board of Directors of NB Power. 
























 





















Brian Robertson
If NB Power wishes to lower our cost for electricity in the summertime, they should just do it.
I don't expect there would be any complaints at all.

But, they don't want to LOWER anything.
What they want is to impose a winter time SURCHARGE as a way to backdoor yet another power increase.

Oh those sneaky bureaucrats!


Dan Flanagan 
Reply to @Brian Robertson:
NBP is NOT for the scheme. Read the article.


Brian Robertson 
Reply to @Dan Flanagan:
It was their consultants, paid for by NB Power (us) that recommended it.
NB Power just made the comment that there wasn't public support for it.

It would be like buying a new TV in January and the store charging a surtax because their heating bill was higher.

They are actually worse than the banks for trying to rip us off.


Roger Richard
Reply to @Brian Robertson: Electricity will not be cheaper nether in the summer nor outside the peak time. Someone has to pay for those fancy smart meters. Luxury items that we cannot afford. Analogue meters are safe and dependable for decades more than smart meters! Smart meters are like smart phones. How long your smart phone lasts?




















David News
If there is an annual need to generate electricity at such a high rate, why then is not NB power looking to bring newer more cost effective generation on line and mothballing these older more expensive and not environmentally friendly stations.


Dan Flanagan 
Reply to @David News:
Who will lend money to a corporation that is at least $5 billion in debt & has several billion more in liabilities? Their net revenue in 2019 was $20 million. It would take 350 years to pay their debt, at that rate. This crown corporation is so far in debt, it simple wouldn't exist as a non-government company.


David Peters
Reply to @Dan Flanagan:
We can only imagine what sort of solutions a decentralized energy sector would have come up with. There might have been better, faster and cheaper options, that didn't put the province in a massive debt.


David News 
Reply to @Dan Flanagan: So Dan we continue to use old less effective equipment, charge the ratepayers more than invest in the future. Makes perfect sense if you don't care about the next generation.


Dan Flanagan 
Reply to @David News:
More & more NBP energy is being generated from renewable sources: wind & solar seem to be economic. But there is a big price for large scale electricity production. A few plants are old but they only get used during winter load, a far cheaper alternative to decommissioning them. Just what plant or process do you see as inefficient or not economically efficient? Keep in mind that coal & oil are significantly cheaper than 5 years ago.


Fred Brewer
Reply to @Dan Flanagan: And we had a chance to sell this dinosaur for $5 billion.
Now we probably could not give it away.


Fred Brewer
Reply to @Dan Flanagan: If coal and oil are so much cheaper, why is it that Coleson Cove that runs on oil and pet coke costs 14 cents to produce one kw/hr of electricity? By comparison, NB Power charges homeowners 12 cents for one kw/hr. We are told the 14 cents is just the cost of the fuel so what is the all-in cost when you add manpower, maintenance, taxes, and eventual decommissioning costs? It must be north of 20 cents. Madness. Pure Madness.


Roger Richard
Reply to @Fred Brewer: I am not sure that it when well for the Nova Scotians.



























Lou Bell
Maybe just suggest N.B. Power move into the 21st century in the supplyng of power . The continued use of coal and the antiquated Mactaquac Dam ( along with the damage it causes annually through flooding , which by the way is caused by many UNDISCLOSED reasons which NB Power fails to publicly disclose ) and Patronage management and crew that haven't a clue what they're doing , keep out power sources in the 19th and 20th centuries at best ! 


Dan Flanagan
Reply to @Lou Bell:
I agree with your patronage claim. They seem to be a retirement home for political cronies. I would guess most of NBP rank & file would like the patronage to end.


Roger Richard 
Reply to @Lou Bell: NB Power is planing to refurbish Mactaquac Dam, unfortunately. The 3+ billions $ project will be an unnecessary stress on New Brunswickers. We can buy renewable energy, at a lower cost, from neighbouring juridictions.




















David Peters
Why would these eub meeting timings and locations need to be secret? Why isn't there representation for NB Power residential customers?

Imo, much of NB's economic problems revolve around centralized control of the economy.


Fred Brewer
Reply to @David Peters: EUB hearings are open to the public and if you wish to speak all you have to do is register. If you want to read any submissions, everything is on their website. It is a completely open, transparent process. Heather Black is the Public Intervenor who represents residential customers.


David Peters 
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Why would the timings and locations need to be secret? How would the public know where to go, and when to attend?


David Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
"It is a completely open, transparent process."

When and where was the last eub meeting? When and where will the next eub meeting be?...and dont say late next month, somewhere in Canada.


Fred Brewer 
Reply to @David Peters: They are required to place ads in newspapers well in advance of any hearings. Also it would be posted on their website.


Fred Brewer 
Reply to @David Peters: All the information you seek is on their website, or you can call them if you prefer. Not sure what covid has done though, they may be working from home still. 
 

David Peters
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Nowhere on their site, that I can find, gives timings and locations of meetings. Post a link to a time/location of their last meeting, and or their next meeting, if you can find one.


Roger Richard
Reply to @David Peters: Look for:” http://www.nbeub.ca” It is the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board. This is Matter #357.


David Peters
Reply to @Roger Richard:
There is no time and place for any meeting at the link you sent...


Fred Brewer 
Reply to @David Peters: As stated on their website, covid has shut down any public hearings for now. If a hearing becomes necessary before they re-open the office, it will be held by teleconference. It is up to you to monitor their website or watch the newspaper for upcoming hearings. When a hearing is scheduled you will see it on their website. Currently nothing is scheduled.


Roger Richard
Reply to @David Peters: But, if you dig up a bit you will eventually find Matter #357. Once at that place, go at “other related documents” and you will find the latest arguments (documents). Several are interesting, especially document #66018.


Roger Richard
Reply to @David Peters: NBEUB is very public but one needs to be very patient to be able to research and to find informations.


Roger Richard
Reply to @David Peters: Chief Clerk, Ms. Kathleen Mitchell, will help anyone with questions. She is very helpful.


























Alex L
Are they kidding? The costof hydro in winter is already through the roof. what does a consultant from San Francisco have to do with local realities? Lack of representation by the local consumers is an understatement. NB is doing EVERYTHING to push people out of the province. Then they whine that people don't want to stay here. Who will pay taxes to support the aging population when working professionals finally throw in the towel and get the hell out? This province is moribund as it is and they are doing MORE, not less to keep it this way and even expedite the process.


Dan Flanagan
Reply to @Alex L:
I lived in California in 1986. Electricity for a family averaged $600/month. That would be $1,200 in today's dollars. The $150/month I pay here is about cheap as I can imagine. No wonder they are going in the hole every year.


Roger Richard 
Reply to @Dan Flanagan: NB Power is a Crown Corporation unlike many other jurisdictions. It is important to keep it that way. 
 

Roger Richard
Reply to @Roger Richard: We are at risk of losing NB Power if we do not take care of business...





























Fred Brewer
And why is the focus only on residential customers? If it costs more to produce electricity in the winter, then that cost should be borne equally by ALL consumers and this would include mills and refineries.


Lewis Hamilton
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Because this change would only impact residential customers. Industrial customers negotiate a rate that already takes into consideration the seasonal change in cost to produce electricity. Electricity for heating would be a small fraction of their electricity consumption. Their electricity consumption remains relatively the same all year. For residential customers who heat with electricity, their consumption increases drastically during the winter.

The reason the EUB is proposing this change is to make it fair for customers who do not use electricity to heat. Right now, the cost to produce electricity is averaged throughout the whole year and customers are charged according to that average. Say I heat my house with natural gas, and you heat with electricity. I'm subsidizing your choice to heat with electricity because of the averaging. If the price of electricity was charged seasonally, based on the cost to produce, we would both have reduced bills in the summer because the cost to produce in the summer is lower. However, in the winter, both our bills would go up because the cost to produce is higher. The difference is that your electricity consumption is 4 times mine in the winter because of your use of electricity to to heat. If my bill increases $100 from summer to winter, your bill increases $400. The amount I would save from lower rates in the summer would be offset by the increased winter rates and my net change over the year would be zero. You, however, would end up paying a lot more over the year as the increased amount you pay in the winter would be more than you save in the summer because of the difference in your consumption from season to season.


Fred Brewer 
Reply to @Lewis Hamilton: Thank you for your detailed answer, some of which I accept. However, please show me any proof that seasonal costs are already figured into Industrial rates, and by the way, only a handful of industries are large enough to "negotiate" a rate. You can guess who those industries are. Everyone else is stuck to a pre-determined rate and that includes all retail and small businesses. Why not have them share the true cost also? Many of them heat with electricity.
Furthermore, it is my belief that the negotiated rates for heavy industry do not reflect cost of production at all. The negotiated rates are nothing more than a hidden subsidy and are below the cost of production, which in turn gets subsidized by all other rate payers which is patently unfair.


Mary Smith  
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Also, can someone explain how smart meters and charging different rates by time of day or seasons can mean lowering your bill if you reduce your personal usage during those peak times? If I were to avoid doing laundry and only do it during off peak times, would my bill actually go down, or would smart meters only work to increase a persons bill, not decrease their bill?

I know a couple in town that did an experiment to reduce their water consumption for an entire month in an attempt to lower their bill -- and it had no impact on their bill whatsoever -- so where is the incentive to conserve energy when doing so does not lessen your bill, but if you increase usage you get charged more? Shouldn't it be a two way street? Shouldn't there be incentives there to decrease your usage if you worked to use power during off peak times rather than during peak times?


Fred Brewer 
Reply to @Mary Smith: In theory if you shift your electricity usage to off-peak hours, you should save money. But NB Power has not revealed their rate structure. I would be worried that the off-peak rates will remain at the rate they are currently charging customers, and the on-peak rates would be higher. If they do that, no matter what you do, your electricity bill will be higher.


Mary Smith 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: That's exactly what I'd imagine they'd do. Your bill would only go up, never down.


Roger Richard
Reply to @Mary Smith: Me too.


























Dave Shimla
how about lets stop the ridiculous amount of bonuses paid out to the executives. Hey CBC lets do a story on that, dig into the bonuses, people will be shocked.


Dan Flanagan 
Reply to @Dave Shimla:
I checked it out. The number of $200,000 seat warmers was astounding, in the thousands.


Dave Shimla 
Reply to @Dan Flanagan: yup, now we need to know why We have a nuclear power plant, 50 giant windmills , Mactaquac and irving power ect......for a population of 750K and our power keeps climbing as they sell power to other places for cheaper rates.


Johnny Jakobs 
Reply to @Dave Shimla: cause most of "our" power is sold state side.


Roger Richard 
Reply to @Dave Shimla: In 2018, 57% of the NB Power’s employees made over $100,000... That is 1,496 persons.

Roger Richard
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: We have too many Americans on the Board of Directors of NB Power.


Johnny Jakobs  
That's their brain trust. Ex US military or contract workers for US military.



























Johnny Jakobs
This is another phase of the intended use of smart meters.

Profits and bonuses aren't high enough for the top brass? 


Roger Richard
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Yep, since 2012 when they started talking with Siemens.




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Gaëtan Thomas joint l’équipe du CÉNB

Cette semaine, le Conseil économique du Nouveau-Brunswick a le plaisir d’annoncer que Gaëtan Thomas joindra notre équipe à titre de président-directeur général. La plupart d’entre vous le reconnaitront facilement puisqu’il a dirigé Énergie Nouveau-Brunswick au cours des dix dernières années. La communauté d’affaires francophones pourra dorénavant compter sur sa vaste expérience professionnelle, ce qui s’avèrera particulièrement important pour notre réseau en cette période décisive au niveau économique.

Notre nouveau PDG possède un grand désir de faire une différence pour sa province et cette nouvelle étape de sa carrière lui permettra de contribuer à sa communauté d’une nouvelle façon. Après plus de 38 ans chez Énergie Nouveau-Brunswick dont dix années comme PDG, Gaëtan Thomas est un gestionnaire chevronné qui connaît bien la province. Il est reconnu comme un chef de file positif qui mobilise son équipe.
Ce leadership s’est d’ailleurs révélé au grand jour pendant la crise du verglas qui avait particulièrement touché la Péninsule acadienne. Il s’était alors rendu sur place pour aller à la rencontre des communautés affectées. Sa présence sur le terrain pendant cette situation de crise a mobilisé les différentes parties prenantes pour aider les gens à traverser cette période difficile.
Comme il a vécu dans plusieurs communautés de la province, Gaëtan Thomas connaît bien les particularités et les réalités distinctes des différentes régions du Nouveau-Brunswick. Il comprend et estime la juste valeur de la francophonie économique et saura contribuer à sa valorisation et à sa croissance.
Comme PDG du CÉNB, il devra être à l’écoute de la communauté d’affaires pour non seulement bien comprendre ses préoccupations, mais aussi pour développer des solutions pour appuyer nos entreprises et propulser notre économie à un autre niveau.
La pandémie a apporté toutun lot de défis sans précédent pour nos gens d’affaires, mais la reprise de notre économie est dorénavant amorcée. Nous devons maintenant réfléchir collectivement comment notre province peut effectuer un virage pour tirer son épingle du jeu dans notre nouvelle réalité. Les prochains mois et les prochaines années s’avèreront cruciaux à bien des points de vue pour nos entreprises et le CÉNB et son nouveau PDG seront là pour les appuyer avec des actions concrètes en collaboration avec nos partenaires.

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Précédemment, Marie a accumulé une vaste expérience en administration et en gestion financière, en occupant diverses fonctions au sein d’entreprises néo-brunswickoises et d’UNI Coopération financière.  

Marie étudie pour l’obtention d’une maîtrise en administration des affaires (MBA) de l’Université de Moncton et détient un diplôme en administration des affaires et management du Collège communautaire du Nouveau-Brunswick (CCNB).  Elle est membre du Conseil académique de l’éducation permanente de l’Université de Moncton.  Elle est originaire de Kedgwick / St-Quentin.

https://huddle.today/gaetan-thomas-new-ceo-of-n-b-francophone-business-network/


Gaëtan Thomas New CEO Of N.B. Francophone Business Network

Jun 24, 2020
by Huddle Staff

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MONCTON – The board of Conseil économique du Nouveau-Brunswick (CÉNB) has named Gaëtan Thomas its new CEO, effective July 6.

He succeeds Thomas Raffy, who stepped down as CEO on April 24. CENB President Marie Chamberland was filling in as interim CEO.

“I chose to get involved with the CÉNB because I believe in our province’s possibilities and in our francophone business community. I was always an ally of the CÉNB and I am happy to now closely collaborate on its many projects,” said Thomas in a release.

“I am looking forward to meeting the network’s members when circumstances allow and to help francophone businesses start a new turn in this decisive time. The pandemic brought a lot of new challenges for our province and we need to work together to contribute to the rise of our communities.”

Thomas had been the CEO of NB Power for a decade before deciding to step down by May 2020. The utility named Keith Cronkhite as his successor in March.

Thomas’ career at NB Power started in 1982 after he graduated with an engineering degree from the University of New Brunswick. Before becoming CEO, he held various positions in operations, engineering, project design and commissioning, as well as senior and executive management.

As CEO, he restructured NB Power to become an integrated utility that resulted in a leaner, more efficient organization. Under his leadership, NB Power also launched a partnership with Siemens to develop a made-in-New Brunswick smart grid and refurbished Point Lepreau’s Nuclear Generating Station.

Now at the helm of CÉNB, he’ll lead the provincial network of approximately 800 Francophone businesses and entrepreneurs. The organization serves as their voices, including to promote their role and value in economic development in the province and to celebrate their contributions.

“On behalf of the Board of Directors and CÉNB’s members, I am very happy to rely on Gaëtan Thomas’s vast experience that will be particularly important for our network in this decisive period at the economic level for our province. Our new CEO has a strong desire to make a difference in his province and he will mobilize our members and our partners around concrete initiatives that will propel the economy of our province,” said Chamberland in the release.

“We are very proud of this nomination and we are happy to rely on him for strong leadership to take the helm with conviction and determination.”








https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-seasonal-rates-meters-1.4142118


Seasonal power rates could cause consumer backlash, says consultant

NB Power needs new meter system before charging different seasonal prices, says report


Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Jun 01, 2017 7:13 PM AT



NB Power has been ordered to examine whether it should charge lower prices in the summer and higher in the winter, to better reflect true costs. (CBC)


A consultant hired by NB Power is warning of significant consumer "backlash" if the utility is made to establish seasonal rates for electricity.

The consultant's report even suggests customers might have to read their own power meters at midnight twice a year — on April Fool's and Halloween — to make the system work.

"Virtually all bills will have errors ... billing disputes can be expected to increase, possibly dramatically, and there will be no means of resolving disputes in a satisfactory way," reads a report by Elenchus Research Associates that was commissioned by NB Power and filed with the Energy and Utilities Board on Thursday.



NB Power is in the middle of a year-long "rate design" review ordered by the EUB that is focused in part on whether the utility should charge lower prices for electricity in the summer and higher prices in the winter to better reflect the actual cost of serving customers.

New network of meters needed

Elenchus was asked to study how that might work but the company is arguing against any switch until NB Power upgrades its entire network of power meters.

Elenchus said seasonal rates require an accurate reading of every customer's power meter at midnight on March 31 and again on Oct. 31, the dates when power rates would switch between winter and summer prices.



A consultant's report says NB Power doesn't have the manpower to properly read meters if it brings in seasonal rates. (CBC)

But NB Power does not have the sophisticated infrastructure in place to read meters remotely, or the manpower to visit every customer location on the same day, so Elenchus said the utility would have to guesstimate bills or rely on the technical savvy and honesty of customers themselves.
"Customers could be asked to read their own meters late in the day on March 31 (and October 31)," suggested the report. "Aside from the obvious inconvenience and impracticality of that approach, NB Power would have no means of verifying the customers' meter reads."

Residential customers would see hike

Another looming controversy with seasonal rates is that it would raise costs for residential customers, especially to those who heat with electricity.







Elenchus estimated seasonal rates would add nearly $6 million to the cost of residential bills overall, with the largest increases flowing to those with baseboard heat.

Electric heat customers consume the majority of their power during the five months that would have the highest prices and Elenchus said that is another reason to wait for better power meters before proceeding.


NB Power has an ambitious plan to bring in a new meter system, and the consultant's report recommends waiting for that to happen before switching to seasonal rates. (Google Street View)


NB Power has an ambitious plan to upgrade meters and related infrastructure as part of its transformation to a "smart grid," but it is a multi-year plan.
Once in place the utility would be able to read meters remotely hour to hour, allowing power rates to be adjusted for times of the day and days of the week as well as seasonally.

Consumers will also have in-home pricing and consumption displays to help them manage their bills.
Elenchus said waiting for those meters will give electric heat customers a chance to avoid higher seasonal costs by letting them shift power consumption to lower-priced parts of the day.

"The introduction of seasonal rates would be more acceptable once AMI (advanced metering infrastructure) has been deployed," concludes the report.

A final hearing on NB Power's rate design, where seasonal rates and other changes will be considered, is scheduled for next April.



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https://onbcanada.ca/press-releases/nb-power-siemens-and-unb-launch-network-to-spur-innovation/

NB Power, Siemens and UNB launch network to spur innovation

From left: NB Power president and CEO Gaëtan Thomas; Opportunities NB CEO Stephen Lund; Fredericton MP Matt DeCourcey; Siemens Canada president and CEO Robert Hardt; David Burns, vice-president of research at the university and Energy and Mines Minister Donald Arseneault.

January 28, 2016, FREDERICTON (GNB) – Siemens Canada, NB Power and the University of New Brunswick (UNB) are providing local and global companies with a new testing platform to drive innovation and support business ideas for development and export to world energy markets.

The Smart Grid Innovation Network (SGIN) was officially launched today.

“The federal government is committed to supporting innovation that helps to fight climate change and promote sustainable growth,” said Innovation, Science and Economic Development Minister Navdeep Bains, who is also minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency (ACOA). “We are proud to support the Smart Grid Innovation Network, a world-class energy management partnership with the potential to introduce sustainable energy sources to the power grid, and reduce energy waste. This new initiative represents an important and positive step forward for clean energy and sustainable economic development.”

“We are focused upon creating the right environment for innovation to flourish to help create jobs and grow the economy,” said Energy and Mines Minister Donald Arseneault. “This partnership will support local businesses and entrepreneurs while positioning New Brunswick as a centre of excellence to attract companies that want to develop and test smart grid technology. It is a great example of local and international leadership working together to develop innovative ways to make New Brunswick a world leader in smart grid technology.”

SGIN will offer businesses a venue to design, develop and test smart grid related products and services, offering aspiring start-ups and established companies a testing environment to overcome technology hurdles.

“This Smart Grid Innovation Network is Siemens’ newest investment in New Brunswick, and we are incredibly excited about SGIN as a catalyst for innovation and development in the business community with smart grid ready products and services as the outcome – not only to support smart grid deployment here in New Brunswick but to promote it throughout the Siemens world and beyond,” said Robert Hardt, president and CEO of Siemens Canada.

The SGIN is comprised of three interconnected labs, each with a number of virtual and physical lab elements. These include:
  • Smart Grid Research Lab at the University of New Brunswick;
  • Interoperability Lab at Siemens; and
  • Products and Services Lab at NB Power.
“While our primary goal is to transform the electricity system in New Brunswick to bring customers greater value and services, we also have a tremendous opportunity here to help local businesses get their smart energy products market-ready,” said NB Power president and CEO Gaëtan Thomas. “This new network will provide local and global companies a chance to build on the research and development already happening here and promote greater innovation for the benefit of New Brunswickers.”

Beyond the physical labs, SGIN is intended to offer a single point of contact for local and global companies for smart grid related development and testing, as well as provide research and development testing. To assist this, SGIN will host workshops and conferences to engage and exchange knowledge among users and potential users of the network.

Siemens will invest more than $1 million in funds and in-kind support over the next five years into the SGIN and its testing environment, known as the Interoperability Lab. NB Power will invest about $2 million in funds and in-kind support in its Product and Services Lab; and UNB has committed more than $2 million in cash and in-kind support, including National Science Engineering Research Council project research funding, to the venture.

At the government level, SGIN is receiving a non-repayable contribution of $2 million from the federal government through ACOA’s Business Development Program to UNB for the creation of a Living Lab that will support the smart-grid power management research and development activities.

In addition, Opportunities NB is investing $840,000 on behalf of the provincial government.

“At UNB, we are incredibly proud to be at the forefront of smart grid research and development,” said David Burns, vice-president of research at the university. “Our collaboration with NB Power and Siemens on the Smart Grid Innovation Network is one of the many examples of the rich eco-system of innovation we have in this province. Investments such as the SGIN are incredibly important to the work we do at UNB and enable our researchers to work together with other stakeholders and innovators to the benefit of all. We see immense potential for the SGIN to foster the co-creation of intellectual property at the cutting edge of smart grid technology.”


MEDIA CONTACT(S):

Marie-Andrée Bolduc, communications, NB Power, 506-458-3212.
Tyler Campbell, communications, Department of Energy and Mines, 506-453-4090.
Laura Heidbuechel, communications, Siemens Canada, 289-952-1600.
Hannah Classen, communications, UNB, 506-443-3917.
Ann Kenney, communications, ACOA, 506-452-3687.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-grid-1.3424022



Province still waiting to get on the smart grid

Smart Grid Innovation Network launches, energy-saving tools promised in 2012 still aren't widely available

CBC News· Posted: Jan 28, 2016 4:42 PM AT |


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NB Power and the New Brunswick government are deepening their relationship with the global engineering firm Siemens, handing over more taxpayer dollars while consumers wait to see the benefits of smart–grid technology.
Political leaders and company officials hosted a splashy media event Thursday to launch a new initiative called the Smart Grid Innovation Network, which will help companies develop new energy–efficiency products.
We're now at the point where we're ready to go public and connect customers.
- Brad Wasson, NB Power
They touted the program as New Brunswick's arrival on the world stage, while facing questions about why energy-saving tools already promised in 2012 still aren't widely available to NB Power customers.


Siemens Canada signed a $35 million contract with NB Power in July 2012 to help the utility develop a so-called smart grid to shift energy generation and consumption away from peak demand periods.

Siemens also received $537,000 in payroll rebates from Invest New Brunswick, at the time, to create jobs at its Fredericton lab. On Thursday, Opportunities New Brunswick, the province's new economic development agency, said it was handing over another $840,000.

The federal government's Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency is kicking in another $2 million for the new innovation network.

One of the key products in the Smart Grid plan, "smart thermostats" that let customers and NB Power reduce electricity consumption, are only now being installed in 150 homes as part of a pilot project.

Brad Wasson, who heads the program for NB Power, says the various functions of the thermostats — which will communicate with the utility via the Internet — have to be checked carefully.

"All of that stuff has to be co–ordinated, and we're trying to make sure that it's fool–proof and all the checks and balances are put in place before we go public," he said.







The entire Smart Grid will be run by what's called integrated load management software, and "it took us a while to put that software together, to get it into a lab to test it and make sure it works," Wasson said. "We're now at the point where we're ready to go public and connect customers to these types of tools."

But NB Power's own filings with the Energy and Utilities Board say the smart thermostat program "could be" running by winter 2017–18, still two years away.

Keelen Gagnon, the chief operating officer of SimpTek, a Fredericton company that is developing the software for the Smart Grid, says sometimes large organizations such as NB Power and Siemens can't move as quickly as small start-–ups like his.

"They have certain mandates and things to meet," he says. "We can move much quicker on certain aspects, because we're focused on only one objective while larger organizations have many divisions and many things to concentrate on."

Brick heaters

Another product NB Power is piloting is a heater that heats bricks during low–demand times, then lets customers draw on that heat during high–demand times.

By shifting demand, the utility can reduce the amount of electricity it needs to generate, which also helps reduce carbon dioxide emissions.







But, Wasson says it isn't quick to turn a century–old power electricity-selling utility into an organization that deters people from consuming energy.

"A hundred years of an infrastructure behaving and thinking one way, then actually pivoting and going in a new direction — it's taken a while for us to pull it all together, to get a common vision of where we're going, and put in place the bits and pieces to make it work."

No performance targets provided

Robert Hardt, chief executive officer of Siemans Canada, says the first three years of the company's contract with NB Power involved "a lot of testing" but now, "it's coming, and it's coming faster and faster ... But it has to be done very thoroughly, so that it really works and it's safe and it shows the benefits."

NB Power officials didn't provide any performance targets for the smart grid by which its success could be measured.

But Wasson says one measure will be the cost savings of reaching the ultimate goal: reducing electricity consumption by 609 megawatts, roughly the equivalent of what one power plant generates.

"As we implement these programs, we're avoiding investment in a power plant we'd otherwise have to build if we didn't find a way to reduce or shift energy," he said. The payback is there in the avoidance of ultimately spending billions of dollars on building power plants."

Despite such long–term goals and slow progress so far, there was no shortage of lofty rhetoric at Thursday's event.

Gaetan Thomas, chief executive officer of Nb Power, said the new innovation network will make the utility and the province "the smart–grid capital of the world," while Hardt said the program will be "a reference project not only for Siemens Canada, but for Siemens globally, and also for the entire energy space worldwide."

Donald Arseneault, minister of energy, joined in, saying people "around the world" were watching the initiative. And David Burns, the vice–president of research at the University of New Brunswick, which is a partner in the project, added that it is "really going to change the world."



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HopeCaper
 Every time NB arrives on the world stage I get nervous. Because I know we just got taken and the question becomes how much?
Smart grid as has been noted by Strictly Facts is a source of not only the energy we use but has the ability to monitor in formation on devices such as computers. I have read that Smart grid can listen to conversations as well.
Should a private company be able to do this? Should a government be allowed to do this? Why was there never a conversation or invited feedback as to whether we the customers that are paying for this want this?

















tilapia girl
maybe the legal department could take a moment and google premier Kathleen wynne and smart meter failure as well perhaps a google of the bc hydro removal of smart meters...if human beings are to be used for data mining they should be told and get free free free power to knowingly participate in experiments.what about the fire hazards where is the minister of public safety?where do the fire chiefs stand on the fire hazards and what is in place to make whole the families who experience loss of any kind resulting from these SMART FOR WHOM METER













Mad Ape
People need to read up on the health hazards, the big brotherly love, and the insecure transmission of data by smart meters. There is nothing good about these unless you are the manufacturer or installer making money. There'll never be one put on my abode. 















The Carnival King
A pile of overpriced foolishness for a utility and a province that can't even afford basic ambulance and hospital services, ;let alone education and roads.

A utility the size of a gum wrapper compared to most with Billions in debt and this is what they come up with?

So to follow their "logic", if you use your devices and 50+ year old technology (brick heaters), washers & dryers on "off peak" hrs then it will be cheaper.

(1) We don't have "off peak" power rates or levels,

(2) When everyone starts doing all their chores that use power on "off peak" times, then the so called "off peak" times will now become peak times.

So who benefits? Look into it............. 






Ian McShane@The Carnival King With smart meters they can turn off your power remotely like they do in Quebec and meter internal program and calibration settings can be changed from remote at any time so that your bill goes up and you will never know because they are not like the mechanical meters where you can see through the glass that there are no tricks going on...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/consumer-group-blames-hydro-qu%C3%A9bec-smart-meters-for-rise-in-power-cutoffs-1.2834439











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NB Power plans smart grid research project

Technology could lead to lower rates, more usage of renewable power

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The federal government is investing $15.9 million in a research project led by NB Power into smart grid technology that could lead to more renewable energy being used in the Maritimes.

The four-year research project will see a total investment of $32 million, of which $15.9 million with come from the federal Clean Energy Fund and $2 million will paid for by the New Brunswick government.

The project will study the changing patterns of power consumption and help electricity companies alter energy production to reduce their share of greenhouse gas emissions.







With the push to put more wind power onto transmission grids, utilities are studying how to balance their power loads when the wind isn't blowing.

Gaetan Thomas, the president and chief executive officer of NB Power, said that is one issue that will be studied in the research project.

"We will be able to minimize the impact on heavy fuel oil that needs to replace when the wind is down," Thomas said.

"And the customers will benefit from cleaner energy and also we'll be able to do it without interrupting the benefits of their electricity."

Smart grids track all electricity in a given system and they increase efficiency by shifting energy use from peak times to reduce demand. This could mean using a dishwasher or dryer when demand for electricity is lower.

NB Power will be joined by Nova Scotia Power and the University of New Brunswick in the research project.






Economically viable

Liuchen Chang, a professor at the University of New Brunswick and the project's lead researcher, said the intent of the initiative is to make renewable energy resources, such as wind, which are unpredictable, more economically viable.

"This project is all about shifting the residential and commercial loads, to facilitate the variation of generation," Chang said.

If the project is successful, NB Power's president said that could pay off for customers.
"If we can reduce our dependence on heavy fuel oil, it has the potential impact to reduce rate increases," Thomas said.

The project is being led by a consortium of companies known as PowerShift Atlantic.
Alan Richardson, the vice-president of integrated customer service at Nova Scotia Power, will be the chairman of PowerShift Atlantic.

National Revenue Minister Keith Ashfield, the minister of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, said the investment in the smart grid will create job opportunities in the region.

"Our government is investing in this smart grid project to encourage clean energy innovation and to help create high-quality jobs for Atlantic Canadians," Ashfield said in a statement.
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Public Safety is reviewing the RCMP's role in regional and municipal policing

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As calls to 'defund' police grow, some say it's time for the RCMP to do less

Public Safety is reviewing the RCMP's role in regional and municipal policing


Catharine Tunney· CBC News· Posted: Jun 27, 2020 4:00 AM ET



Anti-racism protestors block Cordova Street in Vancouver on June 15, 2020. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

The federal government is taking a closer look at the RCMP's contract policing obligations — a review taking on new relevance as calls mount to reallocate police budgets across North America.

During testimony in front of a House of Commons meeting earlier this week — and against a backdrop of recent allegations of racism and excessive force levelled against RCMP officers — Commissioner Brenda Lucki was questioned about calls to rid the force of its contract policing duties.

"I think under our modernization efforts, like I said, no stone will be left unturned and one of them is a review of contract policing," said the head Mountie, referring to a review being undertaken by the Department of Public Safety.

A spokesperson for Public Safety said that while provinces set their own policing priorities, the review is looking at a number of areas of "mutual interest" with the federal government, including accountability and transparency, systemic racism, modernization, frontline policing priorities (including body cameras), the new RCMP union, cost-containment, recruitment and the transition in Surrey B.C. from the RCMP to a municipal police department.

The CBC's questions about when the review will be finished, and whether it will be made public, went unanswered.
Mounties are assigned to contract policing in roughly 150 municipalities, all three territories and in every province except Ontario and Quebec. The force also has federal policing obligations ranging from protecting the prime minister to thwarting terrorist attacks and investigating organized crime.
Provinces and territories pay 70 per cent of the cost of the RCMP's operations in their jurisdictions, with the federal government contributing the remaining 30 per cent.

Funding the RCMP's presence in municipalities is more complicated: those cost-sharing formulas depend in part on population size and when a municipality first signed its policing agreement with the RCMP.

The RCMP's current policing agreements — municipal, provincial and territorial — expire in 2032.



While most provinces do use the RCMP as provincial police, larger municipalities have their own police forces.

Funding is 'chaotic:' professor

Robert Gordon, a former police officer now a professor of criminology at Simon Fraser University, described Canada's policing setup as "chaotic and ... ineffective."

"But it has the weight of tradition behind it, a reluctance on the part of politicians in particular, but also policy makers in Ottawa, to ease this situation, to take a good, hard look at it and realize that it's not good policing," he said.


Mounties are assigned to contract policing in 153 municipalities, the three territories and all provinces but Ontario and Quebec. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)

"It's a balkanized system and it makes for inefficient and I think costly policing."

An internal government memo obtained by the Canadian Press shows those costly contract policing obligationsare draining resources from the force's federal duties,including investigations of organized crime and national security operations.

"Public Safety Canada and the RCMP have confirmed there are systemic sustainability challenges impacting the whole of the RCMP," says the Public Safety department memo.



"Federal policing responsibilities have been and are being eroded to meet contract demands."
Out of the RCMP's roughly $3.5 billion budget, $1.5 billion goes to contract and Indigenous policing and more than 70 per cent of the force's officers are tasked to contract policing.
Any kind of policing reform is like bending granite.
- Robert Gordon, SFU professor
The force's funding problems could swell if the Mounties' nascent union, the National Police Federation, succeeds with its demand for a salary increase.

Gordon said he'd like to see the provinces take on funding their own police forces, perhaps with the help of startup money from the federal government to ease the transition.

"There should be one police service for the whole of the province of Ontario, or the whole of the province of Alberta, or the whole of the province of British Columbia. It's been a free ride for too long on the backs of the federal taxpayer," Gordon said, adding he's not optimistic change is coming anytime soon.

"Shaking organizations ... when they don't want to be shaken is a very difficult task. Any kind of policing reform is like bending granite."



Time for a change?

Lucki defended the RCMP's budget at committee Tuesday and pushed for more.

"Our model, as much as sometimes it's criticized, is the envy of most police agencies because of its flexibility and nimbleness in times of crisis," she said, citing the hunt for two homicide suspects in Manitoba last year and the investigation of an alleged terrorist plot in Kingston, Ont., as examples.

"It takes a lot of specialized resources which you can't afford to have in each area ... so it is a great model, but it needs to be resourced accordingly and we have to make sure that it's in the proper footprint with the proper resources."

While the nation takes stock of police budgets, Kanika Samuels-Wortley, an assistant professor at Carleton University at the Institute of Criminology and Criminal Justice, said it's time to rethink the RCMP's role as first responders.

"I think this is an opportunity for there to be a more concerted effort to try to minimize the scope that the RCMP has," she said.

"There has been a demonstration that there are issues with policing and particularly within racialized Indigenous and Black communities, and this is an opportunity really for the RCMP not to be involved in these communities where there tends to be a great tension."



Instead, said Samuels-Wortley, the RCMP should focus on its federal policing priorities, freeing up government funding for social services.

"I would say that this is an opportunity, yes, for the police to just deal federally because I understand that they do contribute to national security," she said.

"This is a positive way to change who they are and what they represent. But I don't think being within smaller communities provincially, or within municipalities, is the way to go."

The idea of moving the RCMP away from contract policing seems to have momentum now. Surrey, B.C. — the largest RCMP contract municipality – is looking at creating its own police force. Alberta Premier Jason Kenneyhas talked about establishing a provincial police force.

Watch:  RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki under pressure from MPs on systemic racism



RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki is facing new questions from MPs as the public safety committee reviews systemic racism within the RCMP. The force has been under pressure recently to explain why an officer shot and killed Rodney Levi in New Brunswick.  4:51

Samuels-Wortley said individual communities should rethink the mix of services they fund and strike their own balance between policing, education, mental health services, affordable housing, living wage initiatives and other measures that can affect public safety.




"Every community is not the same," she said.

"I think this is an opportunity for us to look at other ways as opposed to policing and control. Instead of being reactive, be more proactive about what it is that we can do to build a healthier community."

Public Safety supports 'culturally-competent policing'

That conversation is going to play out differently in Indigenous communities, said Christa Big Canoe, legal advocacy director for Aboriginal Legal Services. She argues that distrust of the RCMP runs deep in those communities, reflecting the police service's history of pushing Indigenous people off the land and onto reserves and sending Indigenous children to residential schools.

She said she's not certain reform of the RCMP's funding model could mend that relationship.
"They've been used as the government's tool of oppression," she told CBC Radio's The House. "There needs to be a lot done to actually see the reform and build trust with the Indigenous community."
A spokesperson for Public Safety Minster Bill Blair said Canadians "deserve investments in essential services, such as mental health programming, alongside culturally-competent policing."




"We know that Canadians want to see action," said Mary-Liz Power in an email. "We are focused on ensuring that Canadians have access to the critical mental health care they need, and are also funding community-based projects to develop culturally focused programming, capacity and knowledge to improve mental health supports for Black Canadians."

Liberal MP Pam Damoff,  parliamentary secretary to the minister of Indigenous Services and a member of the parliamentary committee studying systemic racism in policing, suggested involving Indigenous leaders in the contract policing review.

"To defund completely without looking at how we're going to deliver services, I don't think is the right approach. I think we need to work with Indigenous people to see how we do this best," she said.
Big Canoe said there's a lot of work to do yet — but a lot of that work has been done already, through various reports and inquiries.

"As it relates specifically to Indigenous People, there's more than enough evidence to start having a serious conversation about defunding," she said.



With files from Chris Hall and the Canadian Press


CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
 



---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 08:46:38 -0300
Subject: Re: Attn Sgt. Mario Maillet I just called and introduced
myself Correct? Now how about an honest answer in writing as to the
whereabouts of my Harley and the Yankee wiretap tapes?
To: Mario.Maillet@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca,
"Brenda.Lucki"<Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Bill.Blair"
<Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, mcu@justice.gc.ca,
Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca, Rob.Moore@parl.gc.ca,
Barbara.Massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Barbara Massey <Barbara.Massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 07:35:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Attn Sgt. Mario Maillet I just called and introduced
myself Correct? Now how about an honest answer in writing as to the
whereabouts of my Harley and the Yankee wiretap tapes? (Out of Office
)
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

I am unavailable Tuesday, June 23 and watching emails intermittently.
  For any urgencies, please contact Jolene Harvey, General Counsel or
my assistant, Sandra Lofaro.

----------------------------------------------------------------------



>>> David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> 06/23/20 07:34 >>>

Sgt. Mario Maillet
Tactical Traffic Enforcement Unit
New Brunswick RCMP
506-389-5028

From: "MacKenzie, Lloyd (SNB)"lloyd.mackenzie@snb.ca
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:01:27 -0400
Subject: Telephone Conversation re: 1965 Harley-Davidson Motorcycle
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Cc: "Bastarache, Donald J.(SNB)"Donald.Bastarache@snb.ca,
"Morrison, Bill (SNB)"bill.morrison@snb.ca,
"Levesque-Finn, Sylvie(SNB)"Sylvie.Levesque-Finn@snb.ca, "Pleadwell, Derek
(SNB)"Derek.Pleadwell@snb.ca

Mr. Amos:
Upon your request I will inform Mr. Derek Pleadwell[(506)
444-2897], Chairperson SNB Board of Directors, of our extended
conversation regarding the issues surrounding the 1965 Harley-Davidson
motorcycle when he visits my office at approximately 3:30 P.M. today.

Also, as requested, I've copied in Ms. Sylvie Levesque-Finn[ (506)
453-3879 ],SNB President.

Lloyd D. MacKenzie, AACI, P. App, CAE
Regional Manager of Assessment - Beauséjour Region/Responsable
régional de l'évaluation - region Beauséjour
Assessment/ de l'évaluation
Service New Brunswick/ Service Nouveau-Brunswick
633 rue Main St.
4th floor/4ième étage
Moncton, NB E1C 8R3
Tel/Tél: (506) 856-3910
Fax/Téléc: (506) 856-2519


https://www.linkedin.com/in/mario-maillet-1029aa95/?originalSubdomain=ca

Sgt. Mario Maillet

Police officer with RCMP since 2001.  Currently Unit commander for
Tactical Traffic Enforcement Unit in New-Brunswick. Specialized in
commercial crime. I worked as team leader / supervisor / investigator
in contract detachments.

Leadership, bringing"fun" into work, thinking outside the box and
caring for my people is what I stand for!

Any questions concerns or need an opinion feel free to send me a
message. I will give you an honest answer!

**Without prejudice

Unit Commander (Sgt) Tactical Traffic Enforcement Unit
Dates Employed Aug 2018 – Present
Employment Duration 1 yr 11 mos
Location Irishtown, New Brunswick, Canada

Responsible for 4 detachments across the province with objectives to
make our roads safer and intercept illegal drugs / cigarettes from our
highways
Traffic Services
Traffic Services


Title Team Leader / Supervisor
Dates Employed Mar 2008 – Jul 2018
Employment Duration 10 yrs 5 mos
Location Shediac, New Brunswick, Canada

Title Fraud Investigator
Dates Employed Mar 2006 – Aug 2008
Employment Duration 2 yrs 6 mos
Location Sudbury, Ontario


Title Investigator
Dates Employed Jan 2001 – Mar 2006
Employment Duration 5 yrs 3 mos
Location Okotoks, Alberta

>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
>> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> Mr. Amos,
>> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
>> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
>> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
>> of Nova Scotia.  Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
>> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
>> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS.  Please note that we will
>> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
>>
>> Department of Justice
>>
>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Good Day Sir
>>>
>>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>>
>>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>>
>>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>>> suggested that you study closely.
>>>
>>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>>
>>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>>
>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>>
>>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>>
>>> April 3rd, 2017
>>>
>>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>>
>>>
>>> The only hearing thus far
>>>
>>> May 24th, 2017
>>>
>>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>>
>>>
>>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>>
>>> Date: 20151223
>>>
>>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>>
>>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>>
>>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>>
>>> BETWEEN:
>>>
>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>>
>>> Plaintiff
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>>
>>> Defendant
>>>
>>> ORDER
>>>
>>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>>> December 14, 2015)
>>>
>>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>>> in its entirety.
>>>
>>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
>>> he stated:
>>>
>>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>>
>>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>>> Police.
>>>
>>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>>
>>>
>>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
>>> is no order as to costs.
>>>
>>> “B. Richard Bell”
>>> Judge
>>>
>>>
>>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>>
>>>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
>>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
>>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
>>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>>
>>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>>> most
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>>> dudes are way past too late
>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>>
>>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>>
>>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>>
>>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Merci ,
>>>
>>>
>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>
>>> January 13, 2015
>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>
>>> December 8, 2014
>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>
>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>>
>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>>
>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>>> campaign of 2006.
>>>
>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>>
>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>>
>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>>
>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>>
>>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>>
>>> Subject:
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>
>>> January 30, 2007
>>>
>>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>>
>>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>>
>>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>>> Minister of Health
>>>
>>> CM/cb
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>>> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>>
>>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>>
>>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>>
>>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>>
>>>  Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>>> Traffic Services NCO
>>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>>> fax: 506-444-5224
>>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
>>> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>>>
>>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz
>>> ilian.html
>>>
>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>>>
>>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>>>
>>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>>> cards?
>>>>
>>>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly200
>>>> 6
>>>>
>>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>>>
>>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>>>
>>>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>>>
>>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>>> United States Senate
>>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>>
>>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>>> raised in the attached letter.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>>> tapes.
>>>>
>>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>>
>>>> Very truly yours,
>>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html
>>
>>
>> Sunday, 19 November 2017
>> Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
>> It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
>> The Supreme Court
>>
>> https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do
>>
>>
>> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>>
>> Amos v. Canada
>> Court (s) Database
>>
>> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>> Date
>>
>> 2017-10-30
>> Neutral citation
>>
>> 2017 FCA 213
>> File numbers
>>
>> A-48-16
>> Date: 20171030
>>
>> Docket: A-48-16
>> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
>> CORAM:
>>
>> WEBB J.A.
>> NEAR J.A.
>> GLEASON J.A.
>>
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>> Respondent on the cross-appeal
>> (and formally Appellant)
>> and
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>> Appellant on the cross-appeal
>> (and formerly Respondent)
>> Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
>> Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
>>
>> THE COURT
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: 20171030
>>
>> Docket: A-48-16
>> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
>> CORAM:
>>
>> WEBB J.A.
>> NEAR J.A.
>> GLEASON J.A.
>>
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>> Respondent on the cross-appeal
>> (and formally Appellant)
>> and
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>> Appellant on the cross-appeal
>> (and formerly Respondent)
>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
>>
>> I.                    Introduction
>>
>> [1]               On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
>> filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
>> against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
>> in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
>> Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
>> properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
>> that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
>> Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
>> (Claim at para. 96).
>>
>> [2]               On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
>> motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
>> Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
>> amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
>> disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
>> and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
>> Prothontary’s Order).
>>
>>
>> [3]               On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
>> Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
>> Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
>> Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
>> for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
>> 2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
>>
>>
>> [4]               Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
>> Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
>> Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
>> As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
>> cross-appeal.
>>
>>
>> II.                 Preliminary Matter
>>
>> [5]               Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
>> relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
>> 6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
>> the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
>> This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
>> had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
>> Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
>> several judges but did not name those judges.
>>
>> [6]               Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
>> identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
>> had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
>> with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
>> Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
>> the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
>> subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
>> c. F-7:
>>
>>
>> 5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
>> office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
>> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
>> Appeal.
>> […]
>>
>> 5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
>> d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
>> les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
>> […]
>> 5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
>> that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
>> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.
>>
>> 5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
>> Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
>> juges de la Cour fédérale.
>>
>>
>> [7]               However, these subsections only provide that the
>> judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
>> versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
>> Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
>> section.
>> [8]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide
>> that:
>> 3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
>> — Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
>> Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
>> continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
>> for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
>> a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>>
>> 3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
>> fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
>> français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
>> à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
>> Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
>> continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
>> matière civile et pénale.
>> 4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
>> — Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
>> English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
>> additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
>> the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
>> court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>>
>> 4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
>> première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
>> Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
>> maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
>> d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
>> canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
>> compétence en matière civile et pénale.
>>
>>
>> [9]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
>> two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
>> (section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
>> Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
>> need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
>> Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
>> to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
>> file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
>> decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
>> that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
>> appeal book.
>>
>>
>> [10]           Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
>> March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
>> Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
>> conflict in any matter related to him.
>>
>>
>> [11]           On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
>> before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
>> conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
>> Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
>> Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
>> Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
>> Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
>> cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
>> Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
>> will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
>> before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
>> relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.
>>
>>
>> [12]           During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
>> the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
>> submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
>> conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
>> afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
>> that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
>> view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
>> documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
>> documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
>> judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
>> copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
>> such judge had a conflict.
>>
>>
>> [13]           The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
>> that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
>> 2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
>> that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
>> had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
>> therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
>> of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
>> personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
>> Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
>> was a member of such firm.
>>
>>
>> [14]           During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
>> appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
>> focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
>> Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
>> the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
>> particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
>> lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
>> after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
>> Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
>>
>>
>> [15]           The documents that he submitted in relation to the
>> alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
>> Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
>> Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
>> practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
>> Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
>> who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
>> affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
>> that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
>> letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
>> Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
>> Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
>> “John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
>> Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
>> possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
>> [16]           Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
>> was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
>> Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
>> 259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
>> judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
>> apprehension of bias:
>> 60        In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
>> criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
>> Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
>> Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
>> reasonable apprehension of bias:
>> … the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
>> reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
>> question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
>> of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
>> viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
>> the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
>> than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
>> unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
>>
>> [17]           The issue to be determined is whether an informed
>> person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
>> thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
>> give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
>> previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
>> administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
>> rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
>> Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
>> also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
>> (4th) 193).
>>
>> [18]           The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
>> Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
>> Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
>> particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
>> case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
>> involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
>> Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
>> judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
>> lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
>> determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
>> rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
>> 27        Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
>> finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
>> which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
>> as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
>>
>>
>> 28        The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
>> asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
>> the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
>> taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
>> defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
>> judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
>> Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
>> Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
>> there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
>> and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
>>
>>
>> 29        It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
>> inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
>> different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
>> judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
>> of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
>> conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
>> involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
>> in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
>> for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
>> interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
>> statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
>> information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
>> opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
>> His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
>> had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
>> unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.
>>
>>
>> 30        That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
>> of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
>> disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
>> two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
>> recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
>> that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
>> that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
>> time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
>>             To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
>> the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
>> involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
>> the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
>> circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
>> or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
>> 31        There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
>> Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
>> trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
>> been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
>> his former firm for a considerable period of time.
>>
>>
>> 32        In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
>> realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
>> and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
>> of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
>> in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
>> In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
>> trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
>> his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
>> decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
>> either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
>> client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
>> off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
>> client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
>> earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
>> events from over a decade ago.
>> (emphasis added)
>>
>> [19]           Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
>> involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
>> Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
>> clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
>> alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
>> Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
>> Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
>> Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
>> had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
>> was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
>> involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
>> with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
>> sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
>> Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
>> also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
>> Webb hearing this appeal.
>>
>> [20]           Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
>> (2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
>> reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
>> the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
>> with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
>>
>> [21]           In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
>> F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
>> reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
>> lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
>> was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
>> Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
>> Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.
>>
>> [22]           Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
>> stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
>> of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
>> He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
>> entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
>> and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
>> to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
>> police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
>> enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
>> conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
>>
>> [23]           As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
>> apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
>> to recuse himself.
>>
>> [24]           Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
>> experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
>> the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
>> confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
>> Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
>>
>> [25]           Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
>> Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
>> that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
>> a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
>> both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
>> Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
>> begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
>> you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
>> was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
>> Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
>> for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
>> not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
>>
>>
>> III.               Issue
>>
>> [26]           The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
>> Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
>> in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
>> Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
>> legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
>>
>> IV.              Analysis
>>
>> A.                 Standard of Review
>>
>> [27]           Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
>> Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
>> be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
>> made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
>> Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
>> 402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
>> this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
>> articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
>> [Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
>> Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
>> prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
>> case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
>> the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
>> error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
>> law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
>> a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
>> if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
>> determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
>> (Hospira at paras. 82-83).
>>
>> [28]           In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
>> assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
>> must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
>> erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
>> interfere.
>>
>>
>> B.                 Did the Judge err in interfering with the
>> Prothonotary’s Order?
>>
>> [29]           The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
>> paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
>> Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
>>
>> 17.       Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
>> addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
>> of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
>> in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
>> the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
>> the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
>> or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
>> does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
>> (…)
>>
>>
>> 21.       The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
>> provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
>> the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
>> Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
>> determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
>> A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
>> only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
>> best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
>> suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
>> [footnotes omitted].
>>
>>
>> [30]           The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
>> on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
>> that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
>> liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
>> who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
>> included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
>> the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
>> paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
>> identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
>> Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
>> para. 27).
>>
>>
>> [31]           The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
>> cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
>> identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
>> 2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
>>
>>
>> [13]      As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
>> 69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
>> determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
>> element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
>>
>> a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
>> conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
>>
>> b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
>> conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and
>>
>> c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
>> officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
>> public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
>> Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
>> (Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
>>
>> [32]           The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
>> material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
>> public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
>> Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
>> “political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
>>
>> [33]           This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
>> in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
>> D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
>>
>> …When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
>> assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
>> negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
>> “The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
>> upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
>> conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
>> of process…
>>
>> To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
>> requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
>> out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
>> officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
>> office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
>> mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
>> allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
>> a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
>> (at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
>>
>> [34]           Applying the Housen standard of review to the
>> Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
>> absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
>>
>> [35]           The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
>> disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
>> basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
>> ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
>> the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
>> engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
>> conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
>> faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
>> the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
>> these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
>> non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
>> Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
>> the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
>> barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
>> supporting a cause of action.
>>
>> [36]           In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
>> allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
>> reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
>> Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
>> Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
>> find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
>> The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
>> amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
>>
>> V.                 Conclusion
>> [37]           For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
>> cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
>> dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
>> November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
>> without leave to amend.
>> "Wyman W. Webb"
>> J.A.
>> "David G. Near"
>> J.A.
>> "Mary J.L. Gleason"
>> J.A.
>>
>>
>>
>> FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
>> NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
>>
>> A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
>> JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
>> DOCKET:
>>
>> A-48-16
>>
>>
>>
>> STYLE OF CAUSE:
>>
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>
>>
>>
>> PLACE OF HEARING:
>>
>> Fredericton,
>> New Brunswick
>>
>> DATE OF HEARING:
>>
>> May 24, 2017
>>
>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
>>
>> WEBB J.A.
>> NEAR J.A.
>> GLEASON J.A.
>>
>> DATED:
>>
>> October 30, 2017
>>
>> APPEARANCES:
>> David Raymond Amos
>>
>>
>> For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
>> (on his own behalf)
>>
>> Jan Jensen
>>
>>
>> For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>>
>> SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
>> Nathalie G. Drouin
>> Deputy Attorney General of Canada
>>
>> For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:33:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: Notice of Harassment I am certain that Rob Moore and the
> RCMP can explain my concerns with questionable lawyers and their
> actions CORRECT?
> To: Pantea Jafari <jafari@jafarilaw.ca>
> Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Tugrul Pinar
> <admin@jafarilaw.ca>, "mgreene@sgimm.ca"<mgreene@sgimm.ca>,
> "media@blaineimmigration.com"<media@blaineimmigration.com>,
> "Sophia.Harris"<Sophia.Harris@cbc.ca>, "Bill.Blair"
> <Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau"<Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>,
> "Mark.Blakely"<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
> <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "mark.vespucci"
> <mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov>, "jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca"
> <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "carl.urquhart"
> <carl.urquhart@gnb.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Gerald.Butts"
> <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Katie.Telford"
> <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "rob.moore"<rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>,
> washington field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "Brenda.Lucki"
> <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Boston.Mail"<Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>,
> "barbara.massey"<barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Barbara Massey <Barbara.Massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:28:58 -0500
> Subject: Re: Notice of Harassment (Out of Office )
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
>
> I am out of the office until Wednesday, January 22, 2020, and will not
> be accessing my Emails.  For any urgencies, you may contact Jolene
> Harvey, General Counsel @ 613 843 4892., or my admin assistant, Sandra
> Lofaro 613 843 3540..
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Je suis absent du bureau jusqu'au 22  janvier 2020, et je n'accéderai à
> mes courriéls. Pour toute urgence,.vous pouvez communiquer avec Jolene
> Harvey, Avocate générale, au 613 843 4892 ou avec mon adjointe admin.
> Sandra Lofaro 613 843 3540.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Moore, Rob - M.P."<Rob.Moore@parl.gc.ca>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:28:33 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Notice of Harassment
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
>
> On behalf of the Honourable Rob Moore, P.C., M.P. thank you for your
> email. Our office appreciates the time you took to get in touch with
> our office. Due to the high volume of email correspondence our office
> receives, below is a guide on how your email will be responded to:
>
> Constituent of Fundy Royal:
>
> The constituents of Fundy Royal are our office’s priority. Please
> ensure to include your full contact details on your email and the
> appropriate staff will be able to action your request. We strive to
> ensure all constituent correspondence is responded to in a timely
> manner.
>
> If your query is case related (i.e. immigration, CPP, EI, CRA, etc.),
> consent forms will need to be filled out before your file can be
> activated. If you have not yet filled out our office’s consent form, a
> staff member will be in contact with you.
>
> If your question or concern is time sensitive, please call our office:
> 506-832-4200.
>
> Event Invitations and Meeting Requests:
>
> If you have sent meeting request or an event invitation, we sincerely
> appreciate the kind request and we will check his availability to see
> if his schedule can accommodate.
>
> Invitations for Fundy Royal are managed in the riding office and
> Ottawa based events and meetings are managed from the Parliamentary
> office. The appropriate staff will follow up on your request.
>
> Non-Constituent Enquiries:
>
> If you are not a Fundy Royal resident, given the high volume of emails
> we receive, your email will be reviewed and filed as INFORMATION.
>
>  If the email is Critic portfolio in nature, it will be responded to
> as necessary.
>
> Again, we sincerely appreciate you taking the time to contact the
> office of the Honourable Rob Moore.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
> <fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:28:22 +0000
> Subject: RE: Notice of Harassment
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
>
> The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
> correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
> comments.
>
> Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
> électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
> commentaires.
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:55:46 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Here is the latest malicious trick pulled by
> CBC for the benefit of the LIEbranos just before the confidence vote
> on Brian Gallant
> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> Thank you for writing to the Honourable Jody Wilson-Raybould, Member
> of Parliament for Vancouver Granville.
>
> This message is to acknowledge that we are in receipt of your email.
> Due to the significant increase in the volume of correspondence, there
> may be a delay in processing your email. Rest assured that your
> message will be carefully reviewed.
>
> To help us address your concerns more quickly, please include within
> the body of your email your full name, address, and postal code.
>
> Please note that your message will be forwarded to the Department of
> Justice if it concerns topics pertaining to the member's role as the
> Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada. For all future
> correspondence addressed to the Minister of Justice, please write
> directly to the Department of Justice at
> mcu@justice.gc.camcu@justice.gc.ca
> or call 613-957-4222.
>
> Thank you
>
> -------------------
>
> Merci d'?crire ? l'honorable Jody Wilson-Raybould, d?put?e de
> Vancouver Granville.
>
> Le pr?sent message vise ? vous informer que nous avons re?u votre
> courriel. En raison d'une augmentation importante du volume de
> correspondance, il pourrait y avoir un retard dans le traitement de
> votre courriel. Sachez que votre message sera examin? attentivement.
>
> Pour nous aider ? r?pondre ? vos pr?occupations plus rapidement,
> veuillez inclure dans le corps de votre courriel votre nom complet,
> votre adresse et votre code postal.
>
> Veuillez prendre note que votre message sera transmis au minist?re de
> la Justice s'il porte sur des sujets qui rel?vent du r?le de la
> d?put?e en tant que ministre de la Justice et procureure g?n?rale du
> Canada. Pour toute correspondance future adress?e ? la ministre de la
> Justice, veuillez ?crire directement au minist?re de la Justice ?
> mcu@justice.gc.ca ou appelez au 613-957-4222.
>
> Merci
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Jensen, Jan"<jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:55:11 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Here is the latest malicious trick pulled by
> CBC for the benefit of the LIEbranos just before the confidence vote
> on Brian Gallant
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> I will be away from the office and not returning until Monday,
> November 5th, 2018.   If you require immediate assistance, please
> contact my assistant at (902) 407 7461.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: Newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:55:43 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Here is the latest malicious trick pulled by
> CBC for the benefit of the LIEbranos just before the confidence vote
> on Brian Gallant
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for contacting The Globe and Mail.
>
> If your matter pertains to newspaper delivery or you require technical
> support, please contact our Customer Service department at
> 1-800-387-5400 or send an email to customerservice@globeandmail.com
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>
> Letters to the Editor can be sent to letters@globeandmail.com
>
> This is the correct email address for requests for news coverage and
> press releases.
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 06:55:07 -0400
> Subject: Here is the latest malicious trick pulled by CBC for the
> benefit of the LIEbranos just before the confidence vote on Brian
> Gallant
> To: "terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, "Alex.Johnston"
> <Alex.Johnston@cbc.ca>, "darrow.macintyre"<darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>,
> Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, "Pierre.Paul-Hus.a1"
> <Pierre.Paul-Hus.a1@parl.gc.ca>, "pierre.poilievre.a1"
> <pierre.poilievre.a1@parl.gc.ca>, pierre.paul-hus@parl.gc.ca,
> ps.publicsafetymcu-securitepubliqueucm.sp@canada.ca, "ralph.goodale"
> <ralph.goodale@parl.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
> "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"<Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>,
> "clare.barry"<clare.barry@justice.gc.ca>, "david.hansen"
> <david.hansen@justice.gc.ca>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>,
> "Dale.Morgan"<Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "david.eidt"
> <david.eidt@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle"<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
> "brian.gallant"<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon"
> <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
> lorri.warner@justice.gc.ca, "jan.jensen"<jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>,
> "Nathalie.Drouin"<Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>, "bill.pentney"
> <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "andrew.baumberg"
> <andrew.baumberg@fct-cf.gc.ca>, "Norman.Sabourin"
> <Norman.Sabourin@cjc-ccm.gc.ca>, "Gib.vanErt"<Gib.vanErt@scc-csc.ca>,
> "marc.giroux"<marc.giroux@fja-cmf.gc.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki"
> <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Liliana.Longo"
> <Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, washington field
> <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "Boston.Mail"<Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>,
> english@rcinet.ca, "kennedy.stewart"<kennedy.stewart@parl.gc.ca>,
> pvanloan@airdberlis.com, nicola.diiorio@bcf.ca, "Nicola.DiIorio"
> <Nicola.DiIorio@parl.gc.ca>, "Catherine.Tait"<Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca>,
> "sylvie.gadoury"<sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca>, "Sophia.Harris"
> <Sophia.Harris@cbc.ca>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>, "macpherson.don"
> <macpherson.don@dailygleaner.com>, "David.Akin"
> <David.Akin@globalnews.ca>, "steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
> news919 <news919@rogers.com>, sfine <sfine@globeandmail.com>, news
> <news@hilltimes.com>, news <news@kingscorecord.com>, newstips
> <newstips@cnn.com>
>
> ethinks after all my phone calls emails, tweets, blogs and lawsuit CBC
> and Brian Galllant can never claim that they didn't know the score
> N'esy Pas?
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"<Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:11:27 +0000
> Subject: RE: Not long after CBC closed a comment section and erased
> one of my comments I hear Terry Seguin talking to Sophia Harris about
> money and shook my head
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.  Please be
> assured  that your email will be reviewed.
>
> If this is a media request, please forward your email to
> media-medias@gnb.camedia-medias@gnb.ca>.  Thank you!
>
> *************************************
>
> Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
> Nouveau-Brunswick.  Soyez assuré(e) que votre  courriel sera examiné.
>
> Si ceci est une demande médiatique, prière de la transmettre à
> media-medias@gnb.camedia-medias@gnb.ca>.  Merci!
>
















---------- Original message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"<fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:24:41 +0000
Subject: RE: RE My calls AGAIN today about WAR, MURDER, MONEY,
TAXATION and George Soros and Iggy versus Sebastian Kurz and Viktor
Orbán etc (Away on Leave - En congé)
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
comments.

Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
commentaires.


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:24:23 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE My calls AGAIN today about WAR, MURDER, MONEY,
TAXATION and George Soros and Iggy versus Sebastian Kurz and Viktor
Orbán etc (Away on Leave - En congé)
To: Roxanne.Rozon@canada.ca, Paul.Rochon@canada.ca, brenda.lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Bill.Morneau"
< Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brenda Lucki <brenda.lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:06:51 -0400
Subject: Re: RE My calls AGAIN today about WAR, MURDER, MONEY,
TAXATION and George Soros and Iggy versus Sebastian Kurz and Viktor
Orbán etc (Away on Leave - En congé)
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Bonjour - Hello

I am currently away on holidays, and will return Tuesday, March 27th. If
you require assistance during my absence, please contact Cpl. Roshan
Pinto at 639-625-3577 or Nicole Yandon at 639-625-3066.  I will be
checking my e-mails periodically.

Je suis présentement en congé de retour au bureau mardi, le 27  mars.
Pour toute demande urgente, veuillez communiquer avec Cap. Roshan Pinto
au 639-625-3577 ou Nicole Yandon au 639-625-3066.  Je vais vérifier mon
courrier électronique périodiquement.

Brenda

>>> David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> 03/12/18 11:06 >>>

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/abt-apd/org.html

Paul Rochon Deputy Minister:
Finance Canada
90 Elgin St.
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0G5
Phone: 613-369-4434

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
< fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 18:55:47 +0000
Subject: RE: RE My calls today about George Soros versus Sebastian
Kurz and Viktor Orbán
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
comments.

Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
commentaires.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 18:56:26 +0000
Subject: Re: RE My calls today about George Soros versus Sebastian
Kurz and Viktor Orbán
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:11:34 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE My calls today about George Soros versus Sebastian
Kurz and Viktor Orbán
To: informacio.was@mfa.gov.hu
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to Was.missions@kum.hu because the
address couldn't be found, or is unable to receive mail.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:05:51 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE My calls today about George Soros versus Sebastian
Kurz and Viktor Orbán
To: Was.missions@kum.hu, washington field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, djtjr
< djtjr@trumporg.com>, lionel <lionel@lionelmedia.com>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 14:54:06 -0400
Subject: RE My calls today about George Soros versus Sebastian Kurz
and Viktor Orbán
To: "mission.ott"<mission.ott@mfa.gov.hu>, ottawa-ob@bmeia.gv.at,
austrianconsulatehfx@breakhouse.ca, miniszterelnok@mk.gov.hu,
mk@mk.gov.hu
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "George.Soros"
< George.Soros@opensocietyfoundations.org>, mdcohen212@gmail.com,
postur <postur@for.is>, "Bill.Morneau"<Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>,
"bill.pentney"<bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, rmellish
< rmellish@cbcl.ca>

https://twitter.com/sebastiankurz/with_replies

Sebastian Kurz
‏Verified account @sebastiankurz
6 hours ago

Konnte mich heute erstmals mit der  Personalvertretung im
Bundeskanzleramt treffen. Danke für den guten Austausch - freue mich
sehr auf die Zusammenarbeit!
Translated from German by Bing

Could meet today for the first time with the staff in the Chancellor's
Office. Thank you for sharing good - look forward to cooperation!
2 replies 2 retweets 15 likes


https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies


David Raymond Amos
‏ @DavidRayAmos 5 hours ago
Replying to @sebastiankurz

Did anyone mention my name yet?

David Raymond Amos
‏ @DavidRayAmos 8 hours ago
Replying to @sebastiankurz

I just called your Foreign Minister's Office +43 50 11 50 0 to offer
my assistance & his staff refused to listen Perhaps sor Viktor Orban
should call back 902 800 0369 so I can explain
@realDonaldTrump #FBI & missing hearing records ASAP

https://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/hearings?ID=90F8E691-9065-4F8C-A465-72722B47E7F2


https://www.bmeia.gv.at/en/contact-us/

Federal Ministry for Europe, Integration and Foreign Affairs

Minoritenplatz 8, 1010 Vienna

Tel. +43 (0) 50 11 50 - 0


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Ügyfélszolgálat (BM)"<ugyfelszolgalat@bm.gov.hu>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:06:36 +0000
Subject: Valasz
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:24:08 -0400
Subject: Fwd: ATTN Péter Szijjártó RE Trump and George Soros et al I
have
been trying to talk to people working for Hungarian Prime Minister for
years
To: sajto@keh.hu, sonja.wintersberger@unvienna.org,
anne.thomas@unvienna.org
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

http://www.unis.unvienna.org/unis/en/pressrels/2011/unisinf410.html


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
< fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:09:13 +0000
Subject: RE: ATTN Péter Szijjártó RE Trump and George Soros et al I have
been trying to talk to people working for Hungarian Prime Minister for
years
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
comments.

Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
commentaires.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:10:40 +0000
Subject: Re: ATTN Péter Szijjártó RE Trump and George Soros et al I have
been trying to talk to people working for Hungarian Prime Minister for
years
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office


---------- Original  message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:07:54 -0400
Subject: ATTN Péter Szijjártó RE Trump and George Soros et al I have
been
trying to talk to people working for Hungarian Prime Minister for years
To: intcomm@mk.gov.hu, "George.Soros"
< George.Soros@opensocietyfoundations.org>, "Bill.Morneau"
< Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, mcohen <mcohen@trumporg.com>,
"Diane.Lebouthillier"<Diane.Lebouthillier@cra-arc.gc.ca>,
"Diane.Lebouthillier"<Diane.Lebouthillier@parl.gc.ca>, RT-US
< RT-US@rttv.ru>, gopublic <gopublic@cbc.ca>, birgittaj
< birgittaj@althingi.is>, postur <postur@for.is>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
president <president@whitehouse.gov>, "boris.johnson.mp"
< boris.johnson.mp@parliament.uk>, "Andrew.Bailey"
< Andrew.Bailey@fca.org.uk>, oig <oig@sec.gov>, newsroom
< newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, news-tips <news-tips@nytimes.com>, news
< news@kingscorecord.com>, jacques_poitras <jacques_poitras@cbc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

Whereas you were appointed to State Secretary for Foreign Affairs and
External Economic Relations of the Prime Minister’s Office.you above
all should understand why I have  an issue with Banksters since well
before George W Bush was first elected while Trump judged Beauty
Queens and managed marry one from your neck of the woods

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/08/hungary-sheds-bankers-shackles-by.html

Tuesday, 27 August 2013
Hungary Sheds Bankers' Shackles | By Ronald L. Ray

You are  also saying some very important things lately about politcs
and George Soros and Donald Trump

BREAKING : George Soros ARREST On The Table ? Hungarian Foreign Minister
TNTV Total News T.V
Published on Jan 30, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kin3r_H8w8

HOWEVER SO AM I AND I DID CALL YOUR OFFICE TODAY FROM A POOR
CONNECTION AND WAS TOLD TO CALL THESE NUMBERS

36 1 458 1240
36 1 458 1844

PLEASE SCROLL DOWN OR CHECK YOUR TWITTER ACCOUNT AND MINE ASAP

Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade
Head office: 1027 Budapest, Bem rakpart 47.
Postal address: 1027 Budapest, Bem rakpart 47.
Phone: +36-1-458-1000
Fax: +36-1-212-5918
Péter Szijjártó, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade

Postal address: 1027 Budapest, Bem rakpart 47.
Phone: +36-1-458-1178, +36-1-458-1253
Fax: +36-1-375-3766

International Communications Office

E-mail: intcomm@mk.gov.hu
Phone:
+36 1 896 1905


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
< fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:45:26 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo Billy Morneau RE FATCA and NAFTA Perhaps you and your
friend Mikey Cohen or even big talking Sherry Peel Jackson should talk
to me before Trump and Trudeau upset the Mexicans even more EH?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

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correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
comments.

Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
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---------- Original message ----------
From: Michael Cohen <mcohen@trumporg.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:15:14 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE FATCA ATTN Pierre-Luc.Dusseault I just
called and lefTo: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

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>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
> < fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 00:14:35 +000
> Subject: RE: Here ya go folks please enjoy the hearing today in
> Federal Court and the notes I read from as I argued the Queen's sneaky
> little minions who think they are above the law and the rest of us as
well
> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
> correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
> comments.
>
> Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
> électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
> commentaires.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: Póstur FOR postur@for.is
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 00:15:21 +0000
> Subject: Re: Here ya go folks please enjoy the hearing today in
> Federal Court and the notes I read from as I argued the Queen's sneaky
> little minions who think they are above the law and the rest of us as
> well
> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received
>
> Kveðja / Best regards
> Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> To: coi@gnb.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Good Day Sir
>
> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>
> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>
> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
> suggested that you study closely.
>
> This is the docket in Federal Court
>
>
http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>
> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>
> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>
> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>
> April 3rd, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>
>
> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>
>
http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>
>
> The> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>
>
> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>
> Date: 20151223
>
> Docket: T-1557-15
>
> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>
> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>
> BETWEEN:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>
> Plaintiff
>
> and
>
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
> Defendant
>
> ORDER
>
> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
> December 14, 2015)
>
> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
> in its entirety.
>
> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
> he stated:
>
> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
> You are your brother’s keeper.
>
> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
> Police.
>
> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>
>
> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
> is no order as to costs.
>
> “B. Richard Bell”
> Judge
>
>
> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>
>   I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>
> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
most
>
>
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>
> 83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> D> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau?
>
>
> Vertias Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Kulik, John"<john.kulik@mcinnescooper.com>
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 17:37:49 +0000
> Subject: McInnes Cooper
> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
> "david.raymond.amos@gmail.com"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> I am General Counsel for McInnes Cooper. If you need to communicate
> with our firm, please do so through me.
>
> Thank you.
>
> John Kulik
> [McInnes Cooper]<http://www.mcinnescooper.com/>
>
> John Kulik Q.C.
> Partner & General Counsel
> McInnes Cooper
>
> tel +1 (902) 444 8571 | fax +1 (902) 425 6350
>
> 1969 Upper Water Street
> Suite 1300
> Purdy's Wharf Tower II Halifax, NS, B3J 2V1
>
> asst Cathy Ohlhausen | +1 (902) 455 8215
>
>
>
> Notice This communication, including any attachments, is confidential
> and may be protected by solicitor/client privilege. It is intended
> only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. If you have
> received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by e-mail or
> telephone at McInnes Cooper's expense. Avis Les informations contenues
> dans ce courriel, y compris toute(s) pièce(s) jointe(s), sont
> confidentielles et peuvent faire l'objet d'un privilège avocat-client.
> Les informations sont dirigées au(x) destinataire(s) seulement. Si
> vous avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, veuillez en aviser l'expéditeur
> par courriel ou par téléphone, aux frais de McInnes Cooper.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM
> Subject: RE My complaint against the CROWN in Federal Court Attn David
> Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to submit a motion for a
> publication ban on my complaint trust that you dudes are way past too
late
> To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca
> peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.com,
mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com,
> david.akin@sunmedia.ca, robert.frater@justice.gc.ca,
paul.riley@ppsc-sppc.gc.ca,
> greg@gregdelbigio.com, joyce.dewitt-vanoosten@gov.bc.ca,
> joan.barrett@ontario.ca, jean-vincent.lacroix@gouv.qc.ca,
> peter.rogers@mcinnescooper.com, mfeder@mccarthy.ca, mjamal@osler.com
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, gopublic@cbc.ca,
> Whistleblower@ctv.ca
>
> https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/14439/index.do
>
>
http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/WebDocuments-DocumentsWeb/35072/FM030_Respondent_Attorney-General-of-Canada-on-Behalf-of-the-United-States-of-America.pdf
>
>
http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html
>
> I repeat what the Hell do I do with the Yankee wiretapes taps sell
> them on Ebay or listen to them and argue them with you dudes in
> Feferal Court?
>
> Petey Baby loses all parliamentary privelges in less than a month but
> he still supposed to be an ethical officer of the Court CORRECT?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400
> Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in
> the USDOJ for me will ya?
> To: RBauer@perkinscoie.com, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith@svlaw.com, bginsberg@pattonboggs.com,
> gregory.craig@skadden.com, pm@pm.gc.ca, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca,
leader@greenparty.ca
> Cc: alevine@cooley.com, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
> michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com
>
> QSLS Politics
> By Location Visit Detail
> Visit 29,419
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> IP Address 149.101.1.# (US Dept of Justice)
> ISP US Dept of Justice
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> Country : United States (Facts)
> State : District of Columbia
> City : W> Operating System Microsoft WinXP
> Browser Internet Explorer 8.0
> Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET
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> Visit Number 29,419
>
>
http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html
>
>
> Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its
> because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it
yet
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:36:04 -0400
> Subject: This is a brief as I can make my concerns Randy
> To:  randyedmunds@gov.nl.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> In a nutshell my concerns about the actions of the Investment Industry
> affect the interests of every person in every district of every
> country not just the USA and Canada. I was offering to help you with
> Emera because my work with them and Danny Williams is well known and
> some of it is over eight years old and in the PUBLIC Record.
>
> All you have to do is stand in the Legislature and ask the MInister of
> Justice why I have been invited to sue Newfoundland by the
> Conservatives
>
>
> Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is the
> link to Madoff and Putnam Investments
>
> Here is why
>
>
http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
>
> Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate
> Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice
> Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the
> following file
>
>
http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf
>
> http://occupywallst.org/users/DavidRaymondAmos/
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Hansen, David"David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:28:44 +0000
> Subject: RE: I just called again Mr Hansen
> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> Hello Mr. Amos,
>
> I manage the Justice Canada civil litigation section in the Atlantic
> region.  We are only responsible for litigating existing civil
> litigation files in which the Attorney General of Canada is a named
> defendant or plaintiff.  If you are a plaintiff or defendant in an
> existing civil litigation matter in the Atlantic region in which
> Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant or plaintiff please
> provide the court file number, the names of the parties in the action
> and your question.  I am not the appropriate contact for other
> matters.
>
> Thanks
>
> David A. Hansen
> Regional Director | Directeur régional
> General Counsel |Avocat général
> Civil Litigation and Advisory | Contentieux des affaires civiles et
> services de consultation
> Department of Justice | Ministère de la Justice
> Suite 1400 – Duke Tower | Pièce 1400 – Tour Duke
> 5251 Duke Street | 5251 rue Duke
> Halifax, Nova Scotia | Halifax, Nouvelle- Écosse
> B3J 1P3
> david.hansen@justice.gc.ca
> Telephone | Téléphone (902) 426-3261 / Facsimile | Télécopieur (902)
> 426-2329
> This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by solicitor-client
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> you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us and delete
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> Before printing think about the Environment
> Thinking Green, please do not print this e-mail >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:23:24 -0300
>> Subject: ATTN FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers Have you talked
to
>> your buddies Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly about the wiretap tapes YET?
>> To: boston@ic.fbi.gov, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
>> bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov,
>> jcarney@carneybassil.com, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, birgittaj@althingi.is,
>> shmurphy@globe.com, redicecreations@gmail.com
>>
>> FBI Boston
>> One Center Plaza
>> Suite 600
>> Boston, MA 02108
>> Phone: (617) 742-5533
>> Fax: (617) 223-6327
>> E-mail: Boston@ic.fbi.gov
>>
>> Hours
>> Although we operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, our normal
>> "walk-in" business hours are from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday
>> through Friday. If you need to speak with a FBI representative at any
>> time other than during normal business hours, please telephone our
>> office at (617) 742-5533.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300
>> Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is
>> finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap
>> tapes Sell them on Ebay?
>> To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov,
>> Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney@carneybassil.com,
>> bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, wolfheartlodge@live.com,
shmurphy@globe.com, >> jonathan.albano@bingham.com,  mvalencia@globe.com
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>> PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com
>>
>>
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/05/james-whitey-bulger-jury-selection-process-enters-second-day/KjS80ofyMMM5IkByK74bkK/story.html
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>
>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
ask
>> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>
>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>> cards?
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>>
>>
http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
tapes.
>>
>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this
previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Amos"david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> To: "Rob Talach"rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
>> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
>>
>> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
>> a lot to you
>>
>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400
>> Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau Wh>> maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca,
>> bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca,
>> denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca,
>> webo@xplornet.com, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
>> rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1@parl.gc.ca,
>> Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca,Clemet1@parl.gc.ca,
maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca, >> oig@sec.gov, whistleblower@finra.org,
whistle@fsa.gov.uk,
>> david@fairwhistleblower.ca
>> Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
>> bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,  justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca,
>> Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>> Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca,
>> ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>
>> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm
>>
>> http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf
>>
>> From: Gilles Moreau Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500
>> Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy
>> Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH
>> Constable Peddle???
>> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>> Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails.
>>
>> Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC
>> Director General
>> HR Transformation
>> 73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502
>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2
>>
>> Tel 613-843-6039
>> Cel 613-818-6947
>>
>> Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC
>> Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines
>> 73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502
>> Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2
>>
>> tél 613-843-6039
>> cel 613-818-6947
>> gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>
>
> First things first have a Look at the 3 documents hereto attached (Not
> a big read)
>
> Listen to these old voicemails from interesting FEDS at about  the
> same point in time (Won't take long)
>
> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>
> then ask youselves or the lawyers Senator Shelby or Spizter or Cutler
> or Bernie madoff's old buddy Robert Glauber where the webcast and
> transcript went for a very important hearing held in late 2003 by the
> United States Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs.
>
>
http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/hearings?ID=90F8E691-9065-4F8C-A465-72722B47E7F2
>
> Review of Current Investigations and Regulatory Actions Regarding the
> Mutual Fund Industry
>
> November 20, 2003 02:00 PM
> The Committee will meet in OPEN SESSION to conduct the second in a
> series of hearings on the “Review of Current Investigations and
> Regulatory Actions Regarding the Mutual Fund Industry.”
>
>      Archived Webcast
>
> Witness Panel 1
>
> Mr. Stephen M. Cutler
>      Director - Division of Enforcement
>      Securities and Exchange Commission
>      cutler.pdf (175.5 KBs)
>
> Mr. Robert Glauber
>      Chairman and CEO
>      National Association of Securities Dealers
>      glauber.pdf (171.1 KBs)
>
> Eliot Spitzer
>      Attorney General
>      State of New York
>      spitzer.pdf (68.2 KBs)
>
> Permalink:
>
http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2003/11/review-of-current-investigations-and-regulatory-actions-regarding-the-mutual-fund-industry
>
>
> Trust that the evil women and men that  PM Trudeau "The Younger"
> appointed to to his cabinet will continue to play dumb because of
> their oath to The Privy Council. However it does not follow that
> everybody who works for them are dumb and they have no such oath to
> uphold N'esy Pas?.
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lisa Porteous <lporteous@kleinlyons.com>
> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:46:22 +0000
> Subject: RCMP
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> David,
>
> Thank you for your email inquiring about our class action against the
> RCMP. As you may know, the Notice of Claim was filed in the Brit> brought by former RCMP constable Janet Merlo on behalf of female RCMP
> members. Unfortunately, we cannot assist you with your claim.
>
> We recommend that you contact Mr. Barry Carter of Mair Jensen Blair
> LLP to discuss any claim you may have against the RCMP for harassment.
> His contact information is as follows:
>
> Mr. Barry Carter
> Mair Jensen Blair LLP
> 1380-885 W. Georgia Street
> Vancouver, BC V6C 3E8
> Phone: 604-682-6299
> Fax 1-604-374-6992
>
> This is not intended to be an opinion concerning the merits of your
> case. In declining to represent you, we are not expressing an opinion
> as to whether you should take further action in this matter.
>
> You should be aware that there may be strict time limitations within
> which you must act in order to protect your rights. Failure to begin
> your lawsuit by filing an action within the required time may mean
> that you could be barred forever from pursuing a claim. Therefore, you
> should immediately contact another lawyer ( as indicated above) to
> obtain legal advice/representation.
>
> Thank you again for considering our firm.
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Lisa Porteous
> Case Manager/Paralegal
>
> lporteous@kleinlyons.com
> www.kleinlyons.com
>
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> Vancouver BC V6H 3V9 Canada
> Office 604.874.7171
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> addressed. Any distribution, copying or other use by anyone else is
> strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
> telephone us immediately and destroy this e-mail.
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> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> 



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brenda Lucki <brenda.lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:20:25 -0400
Subject: Re: David Coon and his buddy Chucky Leblanc know Attorney
General Serge Rousselle told the CBC political panel the topic should
not be discussed.because I am about to put my matter before the
Supreme Court (Transferred - Mutation à Ottawa)
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Bonjour - Hello

I am currently in the midst of transferring to Ottawa, and will be
checking my e-mails periodically.  If you require assistance in regards
to Depot, please contact Cpl. Roshan Pinto at 639-625-3577 or Nicole
Yandon at 639-625-3066. If you require anything in regards to the
Commissioner' office, please contact Angie Boucher at 613-8436183 or
Brigitte Voitel 613-843-4590.

Je suis actuellement en train de préparer ma mutation à Ottawa; je
vérifierai mes courriels à l'occasion. Pour toute demande urgente
concernant la Division Dépôt, veuillez communiquer avec le cap. Roshan
Pinto au 639-625-3577 ou avec Nicole Yandon au 639-625-3066. Pour toute
demande en lien au bureau du commissaire, veuillez communiquer avec
Angie Boucher au 613-8436183 ou avec Brigitte Voitel au 613-843-4590.

Brenda

>>> David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> 04/13/18 15:20 >>>

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/collins-allegations-harassment-policy-legislature-1.4617208

New harassment policy in works after allegations against Speaker
Legislative administration committee is setting up sub-group to write
policy, says David Coon
CBC News · Posted: Apr 12, 2018 7:53 PM AT |

The CBC Political Panel discussed the harassment allegations against
Speaker Chris Collins. Details about the allegations have not been
made public. (CBC News)

Listen to the full CBC New Brunswick Political Panel podcast by
downloading from the CBC Podcast page or subscribing to the podcast in
iTunes.

Members of the legislative administration committee want a more robust
harassment policy specifically for the legislature, according to Green
Party Leader David Coon.

A sub-group of the committee is drafting a new policy, which "will go
above and beyond the workplace harassment policy for general
government," Coon, a member of the committee, said during the CBC New
Brunswick Political Panel podcast this week.

    Speaker Collins to fight 'politically driven' harassment allegation

    Mystery swirls around who will run for Liberals in Moncton Centre

The decision follows harassment allegations revealed last week by
Premier Brian Gallant against Speaker Chris Collins.

Gallant suspended the Moncton Centre MLA from caucus over a complaint
he harassed a former employee of the legislative assembly.

Collins, who was planning to run in the September provincial election,
will fight the allegations, according to his lawyer, T.J. Burke.
Political Panel: April 12 Edition
00:00 34:42
This weeks political panel with Terry Seguin discusses the allegations
of harassment against Chris Collins. 34:42
Filling policy gaps

The legislative administration committee has agreed the clerk of the
legislature will select an independent investigator to examine the
complaint. It has also begun work to clarify issues with the
harassment policy with respect to the allegations against the Speaker.

"The decision to do that reflects that there was a gap at the
legislative assembly," Coon said.

The Liberals were criticized by opposition panel members for their
response to the complaint. Four of the five panellists said the
government failed to follow the existing harassment policy in not
taking action when it learned there might be a complaint.

Green Party Leader David Coon says the legislative administration
committee is going to draft a new harassment policy. (CBC News)

Gallant learned of a possible complaint in February but has said his
office couldn't act until the official complaint was filed April 5.

But the Progressive Conservatives were quick to point to the policy
that says senior officials must take action about harassment "whether
or not a complaint is filed."

PC member Ted Flemming said on the panel that he was pleased to see an
independent investigation because he doesn't trust the executive
branch to get to the bottom of it.

There is a pattern of shrouding the truth, said the MLA, pointing to
scandals such as Atcon and inflated property taxes.

"We're not able to get thNDP Leader Jennifer McKenzie took exception
to Flemming's comparisons,
saying the process should be followed and communicated clearly to the
public and shouldn't be politicized.

McKenzie said the rights of both Collins and the complainant should be
respected and due process given.
Speaker Chris Collins says he'll fight the harassment allegations. (CBC)

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said time is of a factor with the
investigation since it's an election year and Collins was committed to
running. Austin pitched a 60-day deadline for the investigation.

Gallant has said Collins could not run as a Liberal candidate while
suspended from caucus.
Rousselle responds

Attorney General Serge Rousselle told the panel the topic should not
be discussed. He said the harassment policy is being followed and it
would be "inappropriate" to comment on the matter during the
investigation.

Attorney General Serge Rousselle says the Collins case shouldn't be
discussed while an investigation is underway. (CBC News)

Rousselle also dismissed calls for a full inquiry.

"It could jeopardize the confidentiality of this process and
discourage other people from coming forward with their own complaints
for the fear of publicity that would follow," he said.

He said it's the government's understanding the complainant does not
want a full inquiry either.

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 12:24:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Attn Sergeant-at-Arms Gilles Cote (506) 453-2527 I just
called AGAIN
To: Gilles.Cote@gnb.ca, "dan. bussieres"<dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>,
"Michael.Duheme"<Michael.Duheme@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>, "brian.gallant"
< brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon"<David.Coon@gnb.ca>,
"blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Armitage, Blair"
< blair.armitage@sen.parl.gc.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, premier
< premier@gov.pe.ca>, PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, premier
< premier@ontario.ca>, "premier.ministre"
< premier.ministre@cex.gouv.qc.ca>, premier <premier@gov.bc.ca>,
premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, premier <premier@gov.sk.ca>, premier
< premier@gov.nl.ca>, premier <premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
< Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
< martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "Jonathan.Vance"
< Jonathan.Vance@forces.gc.ca>, "Tim.RICHARDSON"
< Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca>, info <info@gg.ca>, "serge.rousselle"
< serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "denis.landry2"<denis.landry2@gnb.ca>,
"Stephen.Horsman"<Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
< hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "jan.jensen"
< jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>, "Nathalie.Drouin"
< Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:59:24 -0400
Subject: Fwd: So what does Premier Gallant and Minister Doucet et al
think of my lawsuit? How about David Coon and his blogging buddy
Chucky joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
To: Ernie.Steeves@gnb.ca, Sherry.Wilson@gnb.ca,
Keirstead.Brian@gnb.ca, "Ross.Wetmore"<Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>,
Gary.Crossman@gnb.ca, Glen.Savoie@gnb.ca, Trevor.Holder@gnb.ca,
Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca, Ed.Doherty@gnb.ca, Bill.Oliver@gnb.ca,
John.Ames@gnb.ca, "michael.bray"<michael.bray@fosterandcompany.com>,
Jody.Carr@gnb.ca, Pam.Lynch@gnb.ca, Jeff.Carr@gnb.ca,
Carl.Urquhart@gnb.ca, Stewart.Fairgrieve@gnb.ca, Andrew.Harvey@gnb.ca,
Chuck.Chiasson@gnb.ca, Madeleine.Dube@gnb.ca, Francine.Landry@gnb.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "dan. bussieres"
< dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, "brian.gallant"<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
"Dominic.Cardy"<Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, oldmaison
< oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, tj <tj@burkelaw.ca>,
"chris.collins"<chris.collins@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon"
< David.Coon@gnb.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"<Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:05:07 +0000
Subject: RE: So what does Premier Gallant anthink of my lawsuit? How
about David Coon and his blogging buddy
Chucky joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.
Please be assured that your email has been received, will be reviewed,
and a response will be forthcoming.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to write.

Merci d'avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.
Soyez assuré que votre courriel a bien été reçu, qu'il sera examiné
et qu'une réponse vous sera acheminée.
Merci encore d'avoir pris de temps de nous écrire.

Sincerely, / Sincèrement,
Mallory Fowler
Correspondence Manager / Gestionnaire de la correspondance
Office of the Premier / Cabinet du premier ministre


On 1/19/18, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Good Day Sir
>>
>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>
>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>
>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>> suggested that you study closely.
>>
>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>
>>
http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>
>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>
>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>
>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>
>> April 3rd, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>
>>
>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>
>>
http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>
>>
>> The only hearing thus far
>>
>> May 24th, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>
>>
>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>
>> Date: 20151223
>>
>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>
>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>
>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>>
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>
>> Plaintiff
>>
>> and
>>
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>
>> Defendant
>>
>> ORDER
>>
>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>> December 14, 2015)
>>
>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>> in its entirety.
>>
>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the
Canadian
>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen
Quigg,
>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
>> he stated:
>>
>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check
the
>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including
you.
>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>
>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number
of
>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be
witnesses
>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>> Minister of Canada, The Right Hon>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>> Police.
>>
>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et
al,
>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>
>>
>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator
of
>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
>> is no order as to costs.
>>
>> “B. Richard Bell”
>> Judge
>>
↧
↧

Born with malformed limbs 52 years ago, thalidomide victim still fights for compensation

June 28, 2020, 7:40 am
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Methinks its obvious to Justice Justice Michael Phelan and the lawyers working with Crawford and Company that PM Trudeau the Younger can make things right for all the victims with a stroke of a pen N'esy Pas?



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/thalidomide-noella-hebert-saint-louis-new-brunswick-compensation-1.5608046


Born with malformed limbs 52 years ago, thalidomide victim still fights for compensation

Noëlla Hébert hopes government will show compassion to aging thalidomide survivors denied assistance


Vanessa Blanch· CBC News· Posted: Jun 28, 2020 8:00 AM AT



Noëlla Hébert of Saint-Louis-de-Kent is one of three New Brunswickers who have been excluded from federal government compensation for thalidomide victims. (Vanessa Blanch/CBC)

Noëlla Hébert isn't scared of anything.

The 52-year-old from Saint-Louis-de-Kent, who was born missing an arm and with malformations in her other limbs, says after a lifetime of fighting for acceptance and compensation, there isn't anything left for her to be afraid of.

"I fought all my life to be to be looked at as a normal person," she said. "This has been a battle from the beginning."

Hébert is one of three New Brunswickers who are still in court, after decades of arguing that they deserve to be recognized and compensated as thalidomide victims and given assistance for their far-reaching physical disabilities.

'I took a drug, Noëlla'

Hébert grew up in rural Kent County knowing she was different and knowing her mother carried an enormous burden of guilt.

"I can remember my mom always said, 'I took a drug, I took a drug, Noëlla, I took a drug.' But me, I didn't understand that … you always have in the back of your mind, 'Why did she take that pill?'"


Hébert, at six, along with her mother, father and two older brothers in a family photo from 1974. Hébert says everyone in her family supported her, no matter what she wanted to do. (Submitted by Noëlla Hébert)

Thalidomide, promoted as a treatment for morning sickness, was approved and arrived in Canada as samples in 1959.

Canada was one of the last countries to pull it from the shelves in 1962, but Hébert and others believe it was still in circulation in rural New Brunswick for years after.

Her mother, Marie, said that's what the local doctor gave her in 1967.


"She took sick," said Hébert. "She had a very sore stomach. She had insomnia. She couldn't sleep. And my grandma had just died. So that was the creation of all that."

She explained that in the 1960s, when the village doctor gave you a bottle of pills, you didn't ask questions.

"People were ignorant. They thought that medication were miracle cures," said Hébert. "Back then, when you had an ailment if you could have the help of a doctor — that was God."


Hébert was born without a left arm and with severe malformations in her other limbs. Her right leg is very short and attaches directly to her torso with muscles. She has no hips. A surgery was performed to turn her foot to allow her to use her heel as a make shift knee in her prosthetic leg. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)

There is no record that proves that the bottle of pills given to Hébert's mother in 1967 contained thalidomide. There were few pharmacies in rural New Brunswick, and it was common for doctors to give medication directly to their patients. The lack of a prescription kept Hébert and 166 others from being part of a federal compensation program for victims in 2015.

"It was just a bottle of pills that was given from one hand to the other," she said. "And so I did not have the documents that the government wanted but I still was a thalidomide victim."

'We got to push'

A 30-minute drive from Saint-Louis-de-Kent, Paul Richard was born in Rogersville in 1969 with malformed arms.


He believes his shorter-than-normal right arm, twisted hand and malformed left arm are the result of his mother also taking thalidomide.


Paul Richard, seen here after having several surgeries on his right arm, told his parents at the age of seven that he didn't want to undergo any more operations. He says he 'made do' with his deformed right arm and went on to be a heavy equipment operator. (Submitted by Paul Richard)

"She was given a pill to alleviate nausea during her pregnancy and back then, well, they just took whatever doctors gave them and didn't question anything," he said.

Richard had three major surgeries on his right arm as a young child and remembers telling his parents when he was seven years old that he wasn't going to have any more.

"I made do with what I had," he said. "I played hockey all my life — I wasn't Wayne Gretzky but I had fun."

As far as he knows, his legs are fine. Richard jokes he's always been able to "run from trouble."
The husband and father of two worked as a heavy equipment operator at his father's business when he finished school. When he could no longer cope with the physical demands, he changed careers and became a highway maintenance supervisor and now works in an office.


Richard worked for years as a heavy equipment operator until the pain in his good arm sent him to a doctor, and he found out his good arm was also malformed. He considers himself lucky to have been able to change careers twice in his life. (Submitted by Paul Richard)

Richard said he probably would have given up his battle for compensation, but Hébert is his mentor and if she keeps fighting, he will too.

"Thank God for Noëlla. I would give up but she keeps on telling me, 'We got to push.'"

'My body is my record'

Hébert, Richard and another New Brunswick man, from Val-Comeau, near Tracadie-Sheila, were among the 167 people who were rejected from the 2015 Thalidomide Survivors Contribution Program, which included a lump sum payment of $125,000, ongoing support payments and access to a medical assistance fund.
We're not fraudsters, we are victims.
-Noëlla Hébert
Even though their mothers have both signed affidavits saying they took thalidomide while they were pregnant, and even though genetics reports and doctors all point to thalidomide as the cause of their disabilities, neither Richard nor Hébert qualified.

"They put us all in the same basket that we would all try to fraud the system," Hébert said of the third-party the government hired to determine who would qualify for the government program.

"But we're not fraudsters, we are victims. It's really really clear to see my body is my record — When you see me you can't unsee me."


Hébert has a prosthetic leg and has undergone several surgeries on both legs to allow her to walk. She has no hips and explains her legs are held in place with muscles. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)

Gesturing to her missing left arm, she points out the tip of a finger that pokes out of her shoulder. Her right arm looks normal, but has four skeletal malformations, including a thumb that is more like a fifth finger.

Her "good leg" does not have a hip and she has required reconstructive surgeries to allow her to walk.

 On the other side, she has a very short leg that is attached to her torso, again with no hip. She has undergone a surgery to turn her small foot backwards so she can use her heel as a makeshift knee in her prosthetic leg.

Forgotten victims

After 52 years, Hébert explained, her continued fight isn't about the money.

She wants Canadians to recognize that she and others have lived their entire lives with severe disabilities and discrimination.

Hébert considers herself one of the "lucky" survivors, because she was born with a "firecracker personality" and a family who saw her as normal.

"My mom says that … when she looks at me, yes, I'm deformed. But when she looks aside she pictures me as a normal child. That's the picture she had to create in her mind to be able to cope with this."


Hébert uses a scooter to get around her home. She does not have a ramp to get into the house and bought the scooter at a bargain price from a seller on Kijiji. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)

Hébert laughs as she remembers her big brother's reaction when, as a child, she told him she wanted to learn to swim.

"He said, 'OK, let's go.' There was no, 'How are we going to do that?' or 'You can't do it.'"

Hébert went on to attend university and to become a lawyer. It was one of the most difficult times of her life not because of the academics, but because it was nearly impossible for her to walk from her dorm at the University of Moncton to her classes.

"When you only have one leg and you have to walk in three inches of snow and the leg's not going — that was my biggest, biggest challenge," she said. "How many times I fell on the snow, in the snow with my 50 pounds of books on my back and came to my dorm crying and called my dad, my mom."


Hébert graduated from the University of Moncton law school and has been a practising lawyer for more than 20 years. (Submitted by Noella Hebert)

Again, Hébert's family encouraged her not to give up when she was ready to quit.

"My dad would say, 'Well go to bed, pray, put some A535 [medicated cream] and the first thing I want you to do when you open your eyes, call me and tell me how is it going.' And just on cue the next day it was always going a little bit better."


Hopes rise and fall

In January 2019, Hébert and Richard were hopeful once again when then minister of health Ginette Petipas-Taylor announced a new compensation program for those turned down in 2015.
We didn't ask for that pill to be introduced in Canada, but we had to deal with the consequence.
- Paul Richard
The Canadian Thalidomide Survivors Support Program promised a one-time payment of $250,000, annual payments based on the person's level of disability and access to a medical assistance fund.

But their hopes were quickly extinguished. This time the hurdle wasn't missing documents, it was birth dates.

The first step of the preliminary screening for the new program is that you were born within five years of March 2, 1962, when thalidomide was pulled from shelves in Canada.

"They said, 'Well if the drug was still on the shelves after five years that we pulled it off the market, it should have been expired.' And then they added nine months for the birth of the child," Hébert said.
Anyone born after Dec. 21, 1967, will not be considered for compensation in this latest program. Hébert was born five weeks too late, on Jan. 31, 1968.


"It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen but I'm not surprised," she said. "We supposedly die about 10 years to 15 years younger of what we are supposed to. They're just playing with time."

Quest for closure, compensation

"We always miss the boat," said Richard.

For him, the compensation would "help immensely," but more important would be to finally be recognized as a victim.

"I know everyone wants something from the government," he said. "We didn't ask for that pill to be introduced in Canada, but we had to deal with the consequence."

Richard understands the fact that his birthday also falls outside of the eligible dates is a hurdle, but he hopes it won't be insurmountable.


Richard, seen here with his wife and two daughters, says being recognized as a victim of thalidomide would give him some closure. He says victims have suffered their entire lives because Canada allowed the drug to be sold. (Submitted by Paul Richard)

He is calling on the Canadian government to consider what life was like back in the 1960s in rural New Brunswick. It was a time when doctors handed out medication, and no one threw anything away.


"All those medications could have stayed in a medicine cabinet for a few years and when they needed it, they would take it."

Like Hébert, he worries his body will continue to deteriorate, and he will need more support as he gets older.

Judge urges government to reconsider

The legal battle for Hébert and Richard continues. This month they appealed a ruling by Federal Court Justice Michael Phelan that would effectively close the door to them ever receiving any compensation.

Lawyer Alyssa Tomkins, a partner with Caza Saikaley, is representing Hébert and Richard, along with another New Brunswicker, pro bono.

She explained the 167 people who were refused government compensation in 2015 had launched a class-action lawsuit, which was settled in May.


Lawyer Alyssa Tomkins is appealing a court ruling that settles a class action lawsuit by thalidomide survivors. The settlement order, which is tied to a 2019 compensation program, would leave Hébert and Richard out. (http://www.plaideurs.ca)

The settlement order applies to all members of the suit, including Hébert and Richard, and means they have to accept the new 2019 program, even though it excludes them and 40 others based on their birth dates.


Tomkins is arguing that based on the negative or "deleterious" effects of the settlement on so many class members, the order should be set aside.

"Effectively, the settlement provides little benefit, we've alleged, to class members within the birth date framework. And yet it's devastating to those outside it," she said.
Let's work with integrity and let's show our hearts. We may have done mistakes in the past but it's never too late to show compassion.
- Noëlla Hébert
Tomkins worries that if the settlement holds up, it will make it "extremely difficult" for victims to ever get the government aid they are entitled to.

In his ruling, Phelan also raised concern about the birth date parameters set by the 2019 compensation program and said there was a "less than clear" explanation from government as to why it was necessary.

"Canada's explanation for its rigid approach, while coldly scientific, lacked the compassion for the individual which the government espoused," he wrote.


In his May decision, Justice Michael Phelan encourages the government of Canada to reconsider birth date requirements that exclude at least 42 people from a new compensation program for thalidomide survivors. (Federal Court of Canada)

"Some of the individuals failed to qualify by a matter of a few weeks — their stories were tragic and compelling. Class counsel recognized the problem but on this issue Canada was intractable."


Phelan said if it was within the power of the court, he would have struck out the date parameters.


"Regrettably, the court is powerless to do anything about this issue, other than to encourage a compassionate reconsideration."

Phelan goes on to acknowledge that class members are advancing in age and have increasing requirements because of their disabilities.

"Time is not their friend, if not yet their enemy."

Despite this setback, Hébert is undeterred and ever hopeful that the many politicians she has met with over the years will reconsider and put an end to this "nonsense."

"It's never too late. We can say, 'The past was the past. Let's talk with integrity now. Let's work with integrity and let's show our hearts.' We may have done mistakes in the past but it's never too late to show compassion."


'I am a hero of history'

Hébert's sense of humour is still in tact as she talks about some of the accommodations she needs to continue to live in her own home.

"I don't have a ramp to bring my scooter with me in my truck. I don't have a ramp outside my door. I don't have the [modified] steering wheel because my steering wheel is too heavy for me to turn on my SUV."

"It costs an arm and a leg — which I don't have," she jokes.


Compensation would allow Hébert to afford accommodations such as a ramp for her home, a ramp to be able to transport her scooter in her truck and an adaptive device to allow her to continue to drive. (Vanessa Blanch/CBC)

She knows the body she was born with will never allow her to do what her spirit would like, but she still looks forward to a day with simple accommodations — raised garden beds, for instance, so she can grow plants on her deck.

"It's about the recognition of being who I am," she said.

"I am a hero of history. I've conquered the world with a not normal body and instead of looking at us with eyes of pity, they should say to us, 'Oh my God — you're champions. You should have a medal.'"

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Nicholas Thomas
Probably cost the government (and hence us) far more wasting time finding reasons to not pay compensation than it would have cost to pay it :( 






larry beggs
I'm sure being crippled is not fun, whether born or in an accident, l can understand compensation in a case of accidents, but being born with any birth defects, is not our governing problems. From the looks in these photos, she is not in the slums, looks more like a case of needing money to keep up with huge house payments. You have a nice wheelchair and office. Sorry, but I'm not for sympathy in what I see or hear in this case. 







Beverley Kernan
This scenario is so very sad, but also very ironic.
Today, when life-changing or game-changing events occur (thinking accidents, children born with mental and/or physical challenges, victims of crime etc), there are amazing support systems out there to help guide new parents, their children ... almost anyone whose life has experienced a major 'event'.
The life-changing event for thalidomide victims and their parents happened just several weeks
into their gestation. Not to be revealed until birth.
There was little knowledge,then, as to effects of cigarettes, alcohol, even emotions on unborn children, let alone drugs ... compared to the information available now. And think of the diagnostic equipment now used on unborn children in the event of problems and how
corrective surgeries for physical defects are now corrected in utero. None of that was available then ... These persons are living proof of: "What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger".

They do deserve medals for their bravery, persistence and accomplishments!!!
As do their parents and families!! BRAVO!!

And they do deserve the compensation and financial support that may be required as they age. Especially when it has been scientifically proven that their deformities were caused
by thalidomide. And especially when those deformities happened in the early stages of
their mother's pregnancies, not at their births. The time parameters need to be dropped.




https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/canadian-thalidomide-survivors-support-program.html


Canadian Thalidomide Survivors Support Program

From Health Canada
The Administrator is now accepting applications.
This program is intended to help meet the lifetime needs of Canadian thalidomide survivors.
It is being delivered by Epiq Class Action Services Canada* (also known as Epiq), an independent third-party service provider.

Epiq is responsible for:
  • delivering ongoing support payments
  • managing the Extraordinary Medical Assistance Fund (EMAF)
    • this fund will pay for specialized surgery, home and vehicle adjustments to accommodate survivor disabilities
  • assessing and re-assessing the health status of thalidomide survivors
  • determining the eligibility of people who identify themselves as survivors of thalidomide
*as of July 1, 2019, Crawford Class Action Services (a division of Crawford & Company Canada responsible for delivering the CTSSP) became Epiq Class Action Services Canada further to a business acquisition.

Program information

Ongoing lifetime support through the program includes:
  • tax-free payments based on level of disability
    • these will increase by 2% a year
    • payments will continue for the survivor’s lifetime without the need to reapply
  • timely and easy access to the EMAF
    • the EMAF will increase by 2% a year

Program eligibility

You are eligible for support under the program if you:
  • are a Canadian thalidomide survivor who was compensated as per the 1991 Extraordinary Assistance Plan (EAP) or under the Thalidomide Survivors Contribution Program (TSCP)
    • there is no need to reapply if you are a thalidomide survivor who already received payment through the EAP or the TSCP. You will be transferred automatically to the program and will continue to receive your benefits
  • are listed on an existing government registry of thalidomide victims
  • are determined by the third-party administrator to be eligible
If your application to the 2015 Thalidomide Survivors Contribution Program was denied, you may be affected by a Class Proceeding. Please visit the Thalidomide Survivors Contribution Program for more information.

Information for potential thalidomide survivors

Contact Epiq if you think you are a survivor of thalidomide who has yet to be recognized by the federal government.

As established by an Order in Council, the Canadian Thalidomide Survivors Support Program (CTSSP) uses a three-step probability-based medical assessment process summarized below. Applicants must meet the requirements established at each step in order to move onto the next.
  1. Preliminary Screening:
    1. The date of birth of the person in Canada falls within the period beginning on December 3, 1957 and ending on December 21, 1967;
    2. The person's date of birth or any other information available is consistent with maternal ingestion of thalidomide in the first trimester of pregnancy and;
    3. The nature of the person's congenital malformations is consistent with known characteristics of congenital malformations linked to thalidomide.
  2. Application of a diagnostic algorithm for thalidomide embryopathy:
    The algorithm will harness the best available international science in understanding the patterns of thalidomide embryopathy, and will yield a probability based result. It is not a definitive medical test.
  3. Recommendation by medical-legal committee:
    A medical-legal committee, established by Epiq, will consider the totality of the information related to the application and any other evidence that it considers to be relevant. This could include genetic test results and medical exams it may requisition, to inform its recommendation to the third party administrator that an individual is eligible for support under the Program.

Application Period

The CTSSP application period is from June 3, 2019 to June 3, 2024.

Contact information

For information on support for Canadian thalidomide survivors, please contact Epiq.
By phone: 1-877-507-7706
TTY 1-877-627-7027
By e-mail: info@tsspcanada.ca
Website: Canadian Thalidomide Survivors Support Program



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GCG Announces Integration with Canada’s Leading Claims Administrator, Crawford Class Action Services, Debuts International Brand Identity

GCG unites two recognized leaders with proven success executing historic settlement administrations across North America

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NEW YORK, June 15, 2017 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Garden City Group, LLC (GCG), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Crawford & Company® and a leading global provider of settlement administration solutions, is pleased to announce it has added Canada’s oldest and most trusted class action claims administrator – Crawford Class Action Services – to its portfolio. The integration brings together two reputable leaders with a combined half-century of expertise in government, legal, technology and operations and strengthens GCG’s capacity to provide premier administration services to clients across North America.


Crawford Class Action Services has been administering class action settlement and voluntary redress programs since class action law came into existence in Canada in 1992. Canadian courts have turned to Crawford Class Action Services to administer cases involving product recalls, water system contamination, tainted blood transfusion, Indian residential schools, institutional duty of care and pharmaceutical and medical device defects. Crawford’s Canadian Class Action services team has handled some of Canada’s most historic settlement programs, including the Hepatitis C class action settlements, Residential Schools Class Action Litigation, KPMG Overtime Redress Plan and the Walkerton Class Action Settlement.

“This integration is an important step toward expanding the GCG brand globally,” said Kenneth Cutshaw, president and CEO of GCG. “Crawford Class Action Services has demonstrated its value to the Canadian courts, the legal community and consumers for more than two decades. We look forward to continuing that tradition and to delivering a more comprehensive suite of services to our clients in North America and around the world.”

Michael Mooney, vice president and general manager of Crawford Class Action Services, will remain at the helm of GCG’s Canadian operations. During his 10-year tenure, Mooney has earned the confidence of the courts, serving as both a court-appointed monitor and an independent auditor in the pre-settlement stage, where he ensures cases are administered fairly and in accordance with the terms of the settlements and the court’s directives.

“This alignment with GCG affords our clients the perspective of a company that has operated longer and across a broader range of litigation, both of which are critical and competitive advantages in Canada’s emergent class action environment,” said Mooney. “In return, our intimate knowledge of the landscape combined with our access to the Crawford Canada network will have an immediate and positive impact on GCG’s clients across North America.”

New International Brand Identity
 
In conjunction with its expansion into the Canadian market, GCG today debuted a new logo and brand identity, which reflects both the company’s international growth and its long-standing and on-going commitment to delivering more: more expertise, more value, more technology, more service lines in more countries, and more resources dedicated to providing clients the quality and service they expect. The new branding centers upon the sole use of the GCG acronym.

“We recognize and appreciate how far we’ve come as ‘Garden City Group,’” said Christi Cannon, senior vice president and chief client officer. “But we’re equally excited about the future as GCG, where our brand identity is driven by our industry-leading team and their commitment to solving our clients’ complex challenges in smart, innovative ways. As we continue to expand, our vision and values will inform everything we do, and we think our new branding captures that perfectly.”
To learn more about GCG’s new logo and brand identity, please visit us at choosegcg.ca. Stay up to date with the latest news about GCG by following us on Facebook (facebook.com/gcgnews), Twitter (@GCGnews) and LinkedIn (GCG).

About GCG
 
For more than three decades, GCG (www.choosegcg.com) has been the premier global provider for class action settlement administrations, restructuring and bankruptcy matters, mass tort settlement programs, regulatory settlements, and data breach response programs. GCG is the partner of choice for leading law firms, corporate legal departments, and government agencies, handling a wide range of matters, including notably the General Motors Ignition Switch Defect Litigation, the CAD$4.6 billion Indian Residential Schools Settlement, the $2.3 billion Bank of America Securities Litigation, the more than CAD$2.1 billion Hepatitis C class action settlements, the more than $1.425 billion Stryker Hip settlements, the $500 million Countrywide MBS Settlement and the Walkerton Class Action Settlement. GCG is a subsidiary of Crawford & Company.

About Crawford®
Based in Atlanta, Crawford & Company® (NYSE:CRD‐A) (NYSE:CRD‐B) is the world's largest publicly listed independent provider of claims management solutions to insurance companies and self-insured entities with an expansive global network serving clients in more than 70 countries. The Crawford Solution™ offers comprehensive, integrated claims services, business process outsourcing and consulting services for major product lines including property and casualty claims management, workers compensation claims and medical management, and legal settlement administration. More information is available at www.crawfordandcompany.com.


For more information, please contact:
Christi Cannon
631-470-6845
Christi.Cannon@choosegcg.com 
 
 
 
http://www.pre86post90settlement.ca/english/eng_home.htm


Welcome to the official website for the Pre 1986/Post 1990 Hepatitis C class action settlement. The purpose of this website is to provide visitors with information relating to the settlement and the settlement benefit claims process.
The final claims deadline for applications under the settlement was June 30, 2016.  The Administrator is not in a position to process claims filed after this date.
The Settlement

The Pre-1986/Post-1990 Hepatitis C Settlement Agreement is for the benefit of people infected with Hepatitis C through the blood system in Canada prior to January 1, 1986 or between July 2, 1990, and September 28, 1998, and certain members of their families.

Please review the information on this Web site very carefully. This will help you to determine whether you are eligible or not for compensation. Please note that the first claim deadline under this Agreement has passed. Please refer to the Claim Deadlines section under General information on this Web site for further information about exceptions. Once you have reviewed the information contained in this Web site, you may contact the Administrator if you have any questions or comments.

How to Contact the Administrator

Telephone: 1-866-334-3361
e-mail:preposthepc@crawco.ca          
Fax: 1-888-842-1332
Completed Claim Application must be submitted to the Administrator at the following address:

Pre-1986/Post-1990 Hepatitis C
Administrator
Suite 3 – 505, 133 Weber Street North
Waterloo, ON,  N2J 3G9






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Alyssa Tomkins

Alyssa Tomkins has a broad-ranging litigation practice in both official languages, including corporate and commercial litigation, bankruptcy and insolvency, administrative/constitutional law and construction, including procurement and the law of tender.  Alyssa has appeared before all levels of court, in various commercial arbitrations and before administrative tribunals, including the Canadian International Trade Tribunal and various agricultural marketing boards. 

Prior to joining Caza Saikaley at the time of its inception, Alyssa clerked for the Honourable Michel Bastarache at the Supreme Court of Canada and worked for several years at a national firm.

 Alyssa is the co-chair of the County of Carleton Law Association Technology Committee and co-chaired a conference on the use of technology in litigation.  She is a regular volunteer at Pro Bono Law Help Ontario and has acted on numerous pro bono matters in the area of human rights.  She is also the volunteer coach of the University of Ottawa’s Laskin Moot team (constitutional and administrative law).

 When Alyssa is away from the office, she is an avid soccer and hockey player, skis and is attempting to learn to snowboard.  She also loves music of all kinds and can be convinced to play the trumpet.
Direct Line: 613-564-8269
atomkins@plaideurs.ca

CALL TO THE BAR

Ontario (2007)

EDUCATION

B.Sc. (Engineering Chemistry), B.A. (Political Studies), Queen’s University, 2002 (Distinction)
LL.B., University of Ottawa, 2006 (Summa cum laude, Gold Medalist)

PROFESSIONAL AFFILIATIONS

The Advocates’ Society
Association des juristes d’expression française de l’Ontario
County of Carleton Law Association


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Michel Bastarache, C.C., Q.C.

For more than a decade, Mr. Bastarache served as a Justice of the Supreme Court of Canada, participating in 680 cases and rendering 143 rulings spanning a spectrum of matters, including those involving questions of commercial law, labour and employment, public law, administrative law, and the application of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Mr Bastarache was a member of the Interim Constitutional Court of Kenya responsible for the supervision of constitutional reform in 2010. He was also Commissioner, Commission d’enquête sur la nomination des juges au Québec, 2013. He was the Independent conciliator for the indemnification of victims of sexual abuse for the dioceses of Bathurst (2010-2012) and Moncton (2012-2014). In 2016, Mr. Bastarache was appointed as the independent assessor to manage the settlement of the Merlo/Davidson case, a class action against the Royal Canadian Mounted Police involving allegations of harassment, intimidation and discrimination based on sex or sexual orientation. Since 2015, he is vice president of the Administrative Tribunal of the Association of American States in Washington, a part time position, and is now serving as the president.

From 2008 to 2014, Mr. Bastarache was Counsel to the national law firm of Heenan Blaikie, where he headed a public law and appellate advocacy practice group. He was also a law professor and Dean at the University of Moncton Faculty of Law, and a law professor and Vice Dean the University of Ottawa Faculty of Law, Common Law Section.

Mr. Bastarache has been very active in the business community, notably as President and Chief Executive Officer of a life insurance company (from 1989-1994). Furthermore, he has sat on countless boards and committees focused on legal education and the practice of law.

Mr. Bastarache has received numerous honorary doctorates, as well as prestigious decorations and awards in recognition of his outstanding leadership in private practice, legal education, and the public service. Mr. Bastarache was named jurist of the year, Association des juristes francophones du Nouveau-Brunswick, 1993. Ordre des francophones d’Amérique, government of Quebec, 1981. Awarded Canadian 125th anniversary medal, 1993. Prix Boréal, Fédération des communautés francophones et acadiennes du Canada, 1995. Kavanagh Award, University of Ottawa, 1998. Received the Médaille de Commandeur de l’Ordre de la Pléiade, 1999, Goodman Fellow, University of Toronto, 1999. Fellow, American College of Trial Lawyers, 2001. Received the medal marking the 125th anniversary of the University of Montréal’s Faculty of Law, 2003. Officier de la Légion d’honneur (France), 2003. Member, Common Law Honour Society, University of Ottawa,  2003. Mr. Justice Bastarache has been nominated as Companion, The Order of Canada, 2009. Recipient of Queen’s Jubilee Medal 2012. In 2013, Mr. Bastarache received l’Ordre du mérite from l’Ajefo and was appointed Queen’s Counsel for New Brunswick.

Mr. Bastarache is the editor and principal author of three books: Language Rights in Canada (Yvon Blais, 1987 and 2004 (2nd ed.)), Les droits linguistiques au Canada, (Yvon Blais 1986, 2006 and 2013). Précis du droit des biens réels (Yvon Blais, 1993 and 2001 (2nd ed.)) and The Law of Bilingual Interpretation (Butterworths, 2008). Numerous publications in collective works and periodicals.

Member of the Board of Directors of Air Nova, Fundy Cable, Corporate Communications and Paturel Seafood, 1993-95. Member of the Editorial Boards of the Revue générale de droit international, the Revue québécoise de droit international, the Revue générale de droit, the review C’est ton droit and the Revue du Nouvel Ontario, 1985-88. Editor-in-Chief of the Canadian Bar Review, since 1998-2005.

Vice-Chair, National Judicial Institute, 2004-08; Member of the Canadian National Group to the Permanent Court of Arbitration, since 2005; Member of numerous committees on legal education and the practice of law. Member of the Atlantic Provinces Economic Council, 1992-94, Literacy New Brunswick, 1993-94, the Izaak Walton Killam Hospital for Children Foundation (Halifax), 1994-95, the Trudeau Foundation 2008-2014, and the Advisory Committees of the administration faculties at the University of Moncton and the University of New Brunswick at Saint John, 1994-95.
Mr. Bastarache works in English and French. 
Direct Line: 613-565-2292
mbastarache@plaideurs.ca

CALL TO THE BAR

New Brunswick (1980)
Alberta (1985)
Ontario (1986)
Quebec (2008)
British Columbia (2015)

EDUCATION

LL.B. (University of Ottawa – 1978)
D.E.S Public Law (University of Nice – 1972)
LL.L. (Université de Montréal – 1970)
B.A. (Université de Moncton – 1967)













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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pedophile-priests-56-civil-lawsuits-1.4401729

56 lawsuits against Catholic Church that allege sexual abuse are
before N.B. courts

Every month, new legal action is taken against the church in Moncton,
Bathurst and Edmundston
Gabrielle Fahmy · CBC News · Posted: Nov 15, 2017 6:00 AM AT


Number shocks former judge

The 56 new lawsuits were all filed after an extensive conciliation process.

Between 2012 and 2014, retired judge Michel Bastarache, who was
brought in by the church, spoke to hundreds of victims and worked out
a compensation formula for the church to pay them all.

In the end, the Archdiocese of Moncton had to come up with $10.6
million for victims, and the Diocese of Bathurst $5.5 million.

Victims received between $15,000 and $300,000, depending on the
severity of the abuse, how old they were when it started, and how many
years it lasted.

Bastarache said the conciliation process had to be delayed three times
to accommodate new victims, which is why he's taken aback by so many
lawsuits still before the courts.

"I'm just surprised that the numbers are so high," he said.

He also wonders why these alleged victims didn't take advantage of the
process and are choosing to go to court instead.

"I heard about a hundred victims in Bathurst, another hundred in
Moncton, and those people — 90 per cent of them, wanted absolute
confidentiality," said Bastarache.

"A lot of them never told their story to anyone, not even in their family."



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/catholic-church-sexual-abuse-moncton-camille-leger-1.5283414

Lawyer says sexual abuse victims still waiting for money from Catholic Church

'There's a lot of frustration, and a lot of anger, and definitely distress'
Alex Cooke · CBC News · Posted: Sep 13, 2019 7:32 PM AT

"There's a lot of frustration, and a lot of anger, and definitely
distress," said Talach, who leads the sexual abuse department for the
London, Ont.-based Beckett Personal Injury Lawyers.

"There's distress by these victims who were victimized as children and
continue to remain somewhat vulnerable."

Talach said he and another lawyer are representing about 50 victims
between the two of them.

A dozen of Talach's clients have reached settlements with the
archdiocese, said Talach. The other dozen still haven't reached an
agreement with the church.

But Talach said the battle isn't over even for those who have reached
settlements. They still haven't received their money — and most of
these settlements were agreed to more than three years ago.

Talach said the money offered is, for the victims, "taking pennies on
the dollar."


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bathurst-diocese-aviva-insurance-compensation-1.5383627

Bathurst church gets cheque from insurers for sexual abuse victims

Company, diocese involved in a drawn-out court battle over who should
pay victims of Catholic priests
CBC News · Posted: Dec 04, 2019 5:41 PM AT


Need I say I got a quite a giggle out of watching my political enemies
argue each other in the comment section today?


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bathurst-diocese-aviva-insurance-compensation-1.5383627

Bathurst church gets cheque from insurers for sexual abuse victims


Company, diocese involved in a drawn-out court battle over who should
pay victims of Catholic priests
CBC News · Posted: Dec 04, 2019 5:41 PM AT


47 Comments


Marguerite Deschamps
This CBC article says it best:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/grand-jury-report-1.4798291
I don't know it I could say it here.






Drake Ramore
The Diocese got away with one here. Failing to disclose that the
Church has turned a blind idea to active known pedophiles in their
ranks should have disentitled to them to coverage.

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Drake Ramore: quite an entitled bunch!

James Risdon
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Who?


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 04:59:25 -0400
Subject: Re: A little Deja Vu from the Maritimes for the lawyers Michel Bastarache and Rob Talach
To: Snap

Not of the type you are referring to

On 12/5/19, Snap wrote:
> Thanks for pointing this out, David. Are you a survivor?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
On 12/5/19, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.snapnetwork.org/canada
>
>
> Canada
> Coquitlam British Columbia
>
> Contact: Leona Huggins
> Phone: 604-240-3741
> Email: SNAPVancouver@SNAPnetwork.org
> Windsor Ontario
>
> Contact: Brenda Brunelle
> Email: SWontario@snapnetwork.org
> Toronto Ontario
> Contact: Marion Kelly
> Phone:  416-274-5954
> Email: marion.kelly12@hotmail.ca
>
>
> SNAP SW Ontario Releases List of Credibly Accused Priests of the Roman
> Catholic Diocese of London (Ont).
> December 04, 2019
>
> The following individuals were Roman Catholic priests who were either
> incardinated priests of the Roman Catholic Diocese of London (Ontario)
> or committed the offences noted while serving within the geographical
> and ecclesiastical jurisdiction of the Diocese of London.
>
> If the individual belonged to another Religious Order of Diocese at
> the time, it is noted in parentheses. These 36 individuals were
> criminally convicted, and/or criminally charged by more than one
> complainant and/or sued in a civil lawsuit which resolved for more
> than $50,000. These categories are the basis of their “credibly
> accused” status. The time period of offences contained within this
> list is 1952 to 2005, being a period of 54 years inclusive. The events
> take place in numerous communities throughout the Diocese of London
> and in some cases also elsewhere. The individuals in this List are
> limited to those who offended with young people, being minor males or
> females, under the age of 18. Members on this list are both deceased
> and living, with a  ꝉ  symbol noting those who are now deceased.
>
> A copy of this list with citations and links to supporting information
> can be found here.
>
> This list is a work in progress and any additional information,
> corrections or comments are welcome. Accuracy, accountability and
> transparency is the ultimate goal. If you wish to make comment or
> correction please contact:
>
> Brenda Brunelle – Southwestern Ontario SNAP Leader  at –
> SWOntario@SNAPNetwork.org  1 519 903-7503
>
> Jerry Boyle SNAP Member at -
>  jeboyle@rogers.com  1 519 241-8165
>
>
>
> https://davidraymondamos.blogspot.com/2019/12/survivors-create-public-list-of.html
>
> https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
>
> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and  49 others
> Methinks CBC and the folks within SNAP should Google two names Robert
> Talach and David Raymond Amos Then ask the lawyer to explain page 134
> of this file real slow N'esy Pas?
>
>  http://checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>
>  #cdnpoli #nbpoli
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/catholic-sexual-abuse-london-diocese-1.5384217
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/06/
>
>
>
>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "David Amos"david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>> To: "Rob Talach"rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
>>>>> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
>>>>>
>>>>> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
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>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>>>>>
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>>> File numbers
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>>> Respondent on the cross-appeal
>>> (and formally Appellant)
>>> and
>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>> Appellant on the cross-appeal
>>> (and formerly Respondent)
>>> Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
>>> Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
>>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
>>>
>>> THE COURT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: 20171030
>>>
>>> Docket: A-48-16
>>> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
>>> CORAM:
>>>
>>> WEBB J.A.
>>> NEAR J.A.
>>> GLEASON J.A.
>>>
>>>
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>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>> Respondent on the cross-appeal
>>> (and formally Appellant)
>>> and
>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>> Appellant on the cross-appeal
>>> (and formerly Respondent)
>>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
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Search for Boston mobster victims heads to Nova Scotia

By The Associated Press
Posted Jan 15, 2001 at 12:01 AM

YARMOUTH, Nova Scotia -- Massachusetts state police will travel to
southwestern Nova Scotia Wednesday to examine a site where Boston
mobsters may have buried their victims. Elizabeth Conrad Parent, 43,
whose father Kenneth “Bobby” Conrad has been missing since 1979,
believes he was killed by an associate of South Boston gangster James
“Whitey” Bulger and buried in Canada -- alongside other victims of
Bulger’s group.

Last month, Parent recounted to the Boston Herald that former FBI
agent John J. Connolly Jr. told her almost 20 years ago that her
father was stabbed by Bulger associate Louis R. Litif, and buried in
Nova Scotia. Parent believes her father disappeared after witnessing a
Mafia killing in the basement of a Boston bar.

The Halifax Daily News reported yesterday that four officers will fly
to Yarmouth to discuss with local Royal Canadian Mounted Police a
small parcel of land in rural Deerfield, Nova Scotia. According to
land registry reports, Litif -- who was murdered in Boston in April
1980 -- purchased a house and land in Deerfield in 1971. His widow is
still an absentee landlord of the property.

Sgt. Brian Oldford, a spokesman for the RCMP, said any potential
murder investigation would be handled locally. “We would rely heavily
on (Massachusetts police) for intelligence, but the actual homicide,
as I understand it from reading the newspaper, took place on Canadian
soil and the body’s on Canadian soil,” he said.

Oldford expects the Massachusetts investigators will be in Nova Scotia
for only one day. “It’ll just be a matter of them telling us what they
know and then getting them back on the plane,” he said.

Parent said Connolly told her in a 1983 telephone conversation “a lot
of bodies” were buried at the site.

Bulger, who is on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list, was recently
indicted on new charges alleging he was involved in 18 murders.

https://www.thevanguard.ca/news/regional/could-mobster-arrest-shed-light-on-rumour-138739/


Could mobster arrest shed light on rumour?
The Vanguard
Published: Jun 23, 2011 at midnight
Updated: Sep 30, 2017 at 7:20 a.m.

The RCMP conduct of a dig of a rumoured mob graveyard in Yarmouth
County in October 2001. No human remains were found. TINA COMEAU PHOTO

By Tina Comeau

THE VANGUARD

NovaNewsNow.com


The arrest of notorious mobster James “Whitey” Bulger in Santa Monica,
California, on Wednesday, June 22, has piqued the interest of the RCMP
in Yarmouth who wonder if Bulger’s arrest may eventually shed new
light on a rumoured mob graveyard here.

After being on the FBI’s 10 Most Wanted List and on the lam for around
16 years, the 81-year-old mob king-pin was arrested without incident
after the FBI launched some daytime television ads two days before
seeking the whereabouts of Bulger's girlfriend, Catherine Greig, with
a $100,000 reward offered. There was a $2 million reward for Bulger's
capture.

Corporal Dana Parsons, of the RCMP’s Southwest Major Crime Unit based
in Yarmouth, had not yet heard about Bulger’s arrest when contacted
Thursday morning by the Vanguard. He admitted the arrest is intriguing
in terms of the information it could yield when Bulger is questioned
by American authorities.

Bulger was wanted on charges of racketeering, 19 counts of murder,
conspiracy to commit murder, money laundering, extortion and drug
distribution.

But in these parts his name is of interest given rumours of a mob
graveyard in Yarmouth County.

In 2001, an extensive dig was held at a property located at the corner
of the Saunders Road and Mood Road. For 20 days the RCMP had the
permission to dig a 1.2-acre site where a bartender from Boston was
rumoured to be buried.

The property was turned upside-down and inside-out, and there was even
digging done in the basement of a residence on the scene, but no human
remains were found.

Cpl. Parsons notes that this was not a missing persons file in Nova
Scotia, rather it was a missing persons file originating in the United
States. Therefore it is still up to American authorities to lead any
investigation or inquiries. But this isn’t to say, he says, that if
new substantiated information comes forward that the police here
wouldn’t get involved again.

“It should be their follow-up as far as the interview of Bulger and if
he discloses that a murder occurred up here, than we would become
involved again,” Parsons says.

The man whose remains the RCMP were searching for when they carried
out the dig in October 2001 was South Boston bartender Kenneth Bobby
Conrad, who disappeared in 1979 after allegedly witnessing a mob hit.
The man’s daughter claimed that two years after her father vanished,
an FBI agent by the name of John Connelly had told her that her father
had been lured to Yarmouth County by a mob associate and murdered.

At the time of Conrad’s disappearance, the property was owned by Louis
R. Litif, who was an associate of Bulger. Conrad’s daughter said she
had been told that Litif had killed her father and buried his body at
the property. She said she was told other bodies were buried there as
well.

Getting information from Litif years later was a dead end. In 1980 he
was killed in a gangland slaying in Boston.  In 2001 his widow had
given police the permission to dig up the property. She had taken over
part ownership of the property a month before Litif was killed.

(An interesting footnote in this story is Whitey Bulger used to be an
informant for the FBI. But when it was decided in 1994 he had to be
arrested for his crimes, it was FBI agent John Connelly who had tipped
Bulger off, allowing him to escape and remain on the lam for 16 years.
Connelly is serving time for obstruction of justice.)

When the news surfaced in 2000 about a possible mob graveyard in
Yarmouth County – which led to the dig a year later – local residents
of the area said they had heard rumours about alleged mob connections
to the property in the past. So while the news was shocking, it wasn’t
necessarily surprising.

The RCMP dig was not a simple matter of the police going onto the
property with shovels. An infrared device was used to detect
variations or disturbances in the ground. A gas-powered machine with a
spike drum was used to unlock scents beneath the ground for police
dogs. An excavator was brought onto the scene. Even the Yarmouth
County Ground Search and Rescue Team conducted a hands-and-knees
search through wooded areas of the property that had not been dug up
by the excavator.

But in the end, the RCMP could only dig and search the area for which
they had permission. After a week they concluded the dig.

“It’s never been laid to rest because there has never been a resolve
to the disappearance of that body,” says Cpl. Parsons.

On the one hand, there was no body found on the property, so was it
just a rumour and therefore a waste of money and effort? Or on the
other hand, did the dig not go far enough?

Cpl. Parsons says while the RCMP here won’t be looking to lead any new
investigation into the matter, because the file originates in the
United States, he said he may contact U.S. authorities just to touch
base with them and remind them of the assistance the police here
provided in the past.

“We don’t have an open file on a missing persons, our file was an
assistance file to them to see if there was a body up here on that
property in Deerfield,” he says. “Ultimately it’s their lead and what
we would do is follow-up on anything they gave us.”

Yet while Cpl. Parsons stresses the onus would be on the American
authorities, he says ultimately in investigations of missing persons
everyone is seeking the same goal – to bring these investigations to a
successful conclusion and hopefully bring about closure for a family.

And perhaps, in this case, to also put rumours to the test, or put them to rest.


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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:35:43 -0500
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"Morris.Dees@splcenter.org"<Morris.Dees@splcenter.org>,
"jsaikaley@plaideurs.ca"<jsaikaley@plaideurs.ca>, "michael.coren"
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Cc: "Robert. Jones"<Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, David Amos
<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "bernadine.chapman"
<bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "john.warr"
<john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "roger.l.brown"
<roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Ian.Shardlow"
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<andre@jafaust.com>, "danny.copp"<danny.copp@fredericton.ca>,
"Leanne.Fitch"<Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>

Ditto - please remove me immediately

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Subject: Re: A Neo-Nazi estate dispute being overseen by two Jewish
groups Perhaps Shimon Fogel should talk to his lawyer or the Attorney
General Blais or his Number # fan Mr Baconfat???
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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:20:39 -0500
Subject: Re: CBC says A Neo-Nazi estate dispute will be overseen by
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To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I have no idea who you are or why you have decided to add me to your
list of individuals receiving you messages. Please remove my name from
your list-serve.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS ZIONIST'S MANY EVIL WORDS MR FOGEL???

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/

Monday, May 27, 2013
Zionism,The David Amos Rant, and the Pederast!
David Amos is a garden variety coward and anti-Semite. He hates
Zionists. He proudly trumpets his hatred, vitriol, venom, and insane
animus against Jews and Zionists. He proclaims his insane ideas that
"Jewish bankers are trying to blow up the world's economy," on
"conspiracy theory computer web sites."

Yes David Amos, I am a Zionist! I served in IDF as an exchange
officer. I am in good company. Arik Sharon was a Zionist. Theodor
Hertzl was a Zionist. David Ben Gurion was a Zionist. British Foreign
Secretary Harold Balfour was a Zionist. Sir Winston Churchill was a
Zionist. Canadian Prime Minister Lester Pearson was a Zionist. United
States President Harry Truman, was a Zionist.

Diaspora Jews may, or may not be Zionists, but true Jews are Zionists.

Ilikenewman, or young Owen from the UK, had David Amos pegged as a
little man, a bigot, and called him out as the anti-Semite he is. He
was "outted" on You Tube as an insane little man, for the entire
planet to see, and disdain. David then tried to call young Owen's
school in the UK. Just like he called the Dean of my daughter's law
school.

Those people of Fredericton who see David Amos in their community now
see him as the evil, pederast, anti-Semite hater, that he really is.
The people of New Brunswick when the see his children or his daughter
Laura, will see the racist pigs that David Amos raised them to be.

Zionists risk their lives for a greater good. Zionists fight and die
for a home for the world's Jewry, a bolt hole if you will, from evil
anti-Semites of the planet like David Amos.

Yes David I am a Zionist! You are a pedophile and your children racist
animals like yourself. David who claim a past with Alberta, but the
reality is that you couldn't find Alberta on a map of Canada, on the
best day you ever had.

David, my lad, how is that for some "criminal malice?"

Posted by Seren at 8:50 PM

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:28:56 -0300
Subject: Out of Office: CBC says A Neo-Nazi estate dispute will be
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To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of the office on vacation from August 5 to 21, 2013,
inclusive, and will have limited access to email during this time
period.

For immediate assistance from August 5 to 9, 2013, please contact Lynn
Davidson at 453-0929 or by email at lynn.davidson@mcinnescooper.com.
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:28:42 -0300
Subject: CBC says A Neo-Nazi estate dispute will be overseen by two
Jewish groups and a very corrupt Attorney General???
To: cdmacausland@stewartmckelvey.com, "Marc.Leger"
<Marc.Leger@gnb.ca>, "Marc.Litt"<Marc.Litt@bakermckenzie.com>,
"marc.chiasson"<marc.chiasson@mcinnescooper.com>, "marco.morency"
<marco.morency@petitcodiac.org>, abromberg <abromberg@bnaibrith.ca>,
rmarceau <rmarceau@cija.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, oldmaison
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, woodsideb
<woodsideb@fredericton.ca>, "Leanne.Fitch"
<Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>, "leanne.murray"
<leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>

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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:21:07 -0300
Subject: CBC says A Neo-Nazi estate dispute will be overseen by two
Jewish groups and a very corrupt Attorney General???
To: tlsoontiens@stewartmckelvey.com, bdysart
<bdysart@stewartmckelvey.com>, bdysart <bdysart@smss.com>, nrubin
<nrubin@stewartmckelvey.com>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "marie-claude.blais"
<marie-claude.blais@gnb.ca>, "richard.cohen"
<richard.cohen@splcenter.org>, "Richard.Williams"
<Richard.Williams@gnb.ca>

http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/info/sum-som-eng.aspx?cas=31693

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I am out of the office in meetings much of today, and will not have
regular access to my email or voicemail during this time. Please
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On 8/21/13, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well who gets to oversee the malicious actions of the Attorney General?
>
> Methinks it must be mean old me. Its a dirty job but soembody has to
> do it. What say you? Please check the pdf file hereto attached and
> argue me in writing if ya dare.
>
> The Chaisson lawyer is a partner in McInnes and Cooper thus he and his
> partners have had Hard Copy of some of my concerns about illegal
> probate actions practiced against the courts by lawyers for many
> years. According to the CROWN Corp known as the CBC(They would not
> conceal awful truths would they?) Chaisson dismissed Hughes'
> suggestion that the Southern Poverty Law Centre is pulling strings as
> "a conspiracy theory.""Where is the evidence? You can't just come to
> court and throw wild accusations like that without any shred of
> evidence," said Chiasson.
>
> Well trust that I have LOTS of evidence of conspiriacies practiced by
> the Southern Poverty Law Center and legions of others that Chaisson
> and his fellow lawyers should have disclosed to John Hughes by now.
> Perhaps John Hughes should ignore his golfing buddies and finally call
> me back. He and I should bury the hachet and he should simply quit
> bullshitting me and ask me nicely for an affidavit and invite me to
> court on September 10th. The amount being argued within the McCorkell
> estate is chump change to me. However the Free Speech issues and the
> right to privacy without state intervening on behalf of unethicial
> "civil rights" groups certainly is not.
>
> The awful truth is the Attorney General is an elected public official.
> The Blais lawyer from Moncton  was appointed by her mindless party
> leader David Alward to uphold the law not to break it for the benefit
> of greedy Yankees. The self appointed Jewish Groups who claim to be
> the gusrfians of our civil rights are no such thing that task belongs
> to our Justice officials. The Jewish groups should have had no
> standing in the mcCorkell matter whatsoever.Hell even Canadian Jewish
> lawyers such as Ezzy Baby Levant and Karen Selick agreed with me very
> publicly. To watch a corrupt Attorney General and her mindless minions
> side with a couple of sneaky Yankee lawyers was truly comical indeed
> but to see the Court of the Queen's Bench allow the nonsense of it all
> was way beyond ridiculous.
>
> How will the ordinary folk of New Brunswick have any idea what joke
> the province may become over this frivolous action if the CBC and
> their media buddies do not duly inform them of all sides of the matter
> instead of merely slandering people. How many taxpayers dollars have
> been spent already on secretive ex RCMP private investigators and the
> less that useles litigation team? It had not escaped my notice that
> many bloggers etc are not so easily fooled by the Corporate Media. Try
> Googling mccorkell new brunswick sometime to see how much of a joke
> Maritimers have already become no thanks to Attorney General Blais and
> her minions.
>
> Moncton's former city solicitor John Hughes should not have ignored me
> years ago so I am not surprised that he ignored once again recently.
>
> The amount of money he wants to argue before the Supreme Court is the
> smallest that I have ever seen.
>
> http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/info/sum-som-eng.aspx?cas=31693
>
> Trust that the pdf file hereto attached proves that I could make
> Hughes a very wealthy man if he were even remotely ethical and his
> friend Attorney General Blais and her boss Stephen Harper know it.
>
> Its just like I hinted in an email to the Yankee lawyer/preacher
> Scotty Baby Lively who is also battling the same SPLC dudes that I
> published early this morning before I heard the news today. In my
> humble opinion Mr Streed should use his rights in the US of A and sue
> everyone of the nastyCanadian bastards ASAP in a US District Court
> pursuant to US Title 42 Section 1982. If they wish to attack him he
> should at least get to pick the turf.
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/08/the-snobby-lawyerpreacher-
> scotty-lively.html
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2013/07/31/nb-neo-na

- Hide quoted text -
> zi-mccorkell-estate.html
>
> Hughes contends the Southern Poverty Law Centre is behind the whole
> matter and recruited her.
>
> This is "a skillful operation by people who have done this many times,
> not only to bankrupt their opponents, but to enrich their own
> organization," he said.
>
> But her lawyer dismissed Hughes's suggestion that the Southern Poverty
> Law Centre is pulling strings as "a conspiracy theory."
>
> "Where is the evidence? You can't just come to court and throw wild
> accusations like that without any shred of evidence," said Chiasson.
>
> How his client pays her legal bills is a matter of client-attorney
> privilege, he said.
>
> Judge ruled against cross-examination
> Justice Peter Glennie ruled against allowing the cross-examination.
>
> "Cross examination under these circumstances should not become an
> application for discovery," he said.
>
> The judge also ruled the temporary injunction should continue until
> the hearing on Sept. 10.
>
> "I can't see any good coming out of this," said Chiasson, referring to
> the estate going to the National Alliance. "Only evil would come from
> that."
>
> Just in case folks think I don't understand the scene laid out above
> pehaps they should checkout a letter an evil Special Agent of the US
> Treasury Dept wrote me long ago.
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ne8Q7TeybUc/SFNyAJCln9I/AAAAAAAABE8/seWnLXU8
> YMU/s1600-h/IRS.jpg
>
> Or find some fun in reading illegal ex parte documents filed by the US
> Attorney in Beantown in order to try to protect his beloved Cardinal
> Bernard Francis Law's evil arse.
> They begin around page 100 of this file.
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>
> (Wanna see more? Trust that I have lots more All ya gotta do is surf
> the
> web)
>
> How about how I used US Title 42 to defend my dumb arse agains the
> Janet Reno's pal the VERY VERY EVIL Yankee lesbian Judge Sidney Hanlon
> in 2004? Everything Hanlon did against me was ex parte and VERY
> ILLEGAL.
>
> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1982
>
> 42 USC § 1982 - Property rights of citizens
>
> US CodeNotesUpdatesAuthorities (CFR)Current through Pub. L. 113-21.
> (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
>
> All citizens of the United States shall have the same right, in every
> State and Territory, as is enjoyed by white citizens thereof to
> inherit, purchase, lease, sell, hold, and convey real and personal
> property.
>
> Source
>
> (R.S. § 1978.)
> Codification
>
>
> R.S. § 1978 derived from act Apr. 9, 1866, ch. 31, § 1,14 Stat. 27.
> Section was formerly classified to section 42 of Title 8, Aliens and
> Nationality.
>
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/02/november-05-2004-legal-tal
> k-text-of.html
>
> THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS
> THE TRIAL COURT
> DORCHESTER, SS.
> DISTRICT COURT DEPARTMENT
> THE COMMONWEALTH OF )
> MASSACHUSETTS )
> CRIMINAL ACTION
> )
> DOCKET NO. 0407CR004623
> v . )
> )
> DAVID R. AMOS )
> )
> AFFIDAVIT OF DAVID R. AMOS
> Now comes, David R. Amos, a Citizen of Canada and a Legal Permanent
> Resident of the USA and asserts his Constitutional Rights pursuant to
> Title 42 Sections 1981, 1982, 1985 and 1986 of the Federal Code and
> freely swears under the penalties of perjury that the following
> statements are true and to the best of his knowledge.
>
> http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Attorney+General+Janet+Reno+Opens+New+Do
> rchester+Domestic+Violence...-a065078979
>
> United States Attorney General Janet Reno came to Boston today to
> announce the opening of the new Dorchester District Court Domestic
> Violence Session, under a Department of Justice grant given to Boston.
> The Judicial Oversight Demonstration Initiative (JOD) grant is for $7
> million over five years, contingent on continued Congressional
> appropriations.
>
> Judge Sydney Hanlon, presiding judge of the Dorchester District Court,
> will run the new domestic violence session. The domestic violence
> court session will conduct arraignments, bail hearings, probation
> surrenders, and probation reviews. It will also hear all ex parte and
> contested civil restraining orders.
>
> http://www.mass.gov/courts/appealscourt/justices/hanlon.html
>
> http://wikiworldbook.com/global-address-book/Sidney-Hanlon
>
>
> BTW lots of people hate lots of other people it is not illegal in most
> places that are blessed with common sense. However with the right to
> Free Speech come responsibility. Freedom has its limits in a
> purportedly "Just" Society. Free Speech does not give one the licence
> to injure others with your mouth or pen.
>
> R. v. Lucas, [1998] 1 S.C.R. 439 is the leading Supreme Court of
> Canada decision on defamatory libel. The Court held that the freedom
> of expression under Section 2(b) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and
> Freedoms is subject to the "reasonable limits prescribed by law" set
> out in Section 1 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
>
>
> Hell some offences come with quite a price tag in the British
> Commonwealth. For instance libel and hate speech are illegal under the
> Canadian Criminal Code Check Sections 300 and 319 if you don't believe
> mean old me.
>
> http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-150.html#docCont
>
> http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/page-155.html#h-92
>
> For instance the Jewish lawyer Ezzy Baby Levant can have fun preaching
> hate on Corporate TV against fools as Arty Topham and legions of
> mindless anarchists but just like all of you Ezzy dares not to even
> breathe my name over the public airwaves if he wishes to keep his job.
> This is a comical video.
>
> http://canadianhumanrightscommission.blogspot.ca/2012/11/muslim-hate-s
> peech-and-authur-topham.html
>
> http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=1411
>
> The wacko Arthur Topham that Ezzy Bay speaks of quite simply does not
> know when to shut up. Even while he is being prosecuted under Section
> 319 and after his strange lawyer Dougy Christie has shit the bed Arty
> baby continues to hang himself with his own words. Look what the evil
> bastard publishes about a Jewish lady lawyer just because he did not
> like her opinion of Southern Poverty Law Center's nasty actions
> against the McCorkell estate.
>
> http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=3081
>
> However if you think Arty Topham and his Hitler worshipers are bad,
> trust that you ain't seen nothing yet. Check out Ezzy Levant's # 1 fan
> and fellow zionist. Ask yourself howcome Mr Baconfat can get away with
> publishing such evil things about the Canadian Human Rights
> Commissioners and many others for years?
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009/06/welcome-to-alberta-human-rights.
> html
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009/06/jennifer-lynchfuck-you.html
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009/06/people-to-steal-your-rights-want
> -to.html
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009_06_01_archive.html
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009/07/welcome-to-inquistion.html
>
> Better yet howcome Arty Topham is too afraid to defend himself from Mr
> Baconfat?
>
> Howcome Byron Prior is not allowed to?
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009/10/byronprioreuthenasia-lobotomy.ht
> ml
>
> Friday, October 9, 2009
> ByronPrior...euthenasia, lobotomy?
> As I research the Byron Prior story it seems like a tragedy that could
> only happen in Newfoundland . Byron Prior's siblings has been abused
> by generations of his own parents. Such abuse tolerated and enabled by
> Bryron Prior's father, and by the entire community from which he is
> from. That is the crime here. It would surprise me to find out that
> either Byron or one of his siblings is or was the product of incest.
>
> Arthur Topham has writen this about the Byron Prior case with the
> assistance and consent of Audrey Prior, Byron Prior's wife.
>
> On March 28th of this year (2009) I received a short email from Byron
> Prior, an associate out in Newfoundland, who I have been in email
> contact with for a number of years. His case, as explained in the
> websites listed in his email below, is most likely one of the best
> examples of the power of the provincial and federal courts, aided and
> abetted by a complicit media, to shield themselves and their political
> cohorts from the scrutiny of public investigation. Byron's case is a
> classic, albeit a relatively unknown one, that epitomizes the level of
> corruption which exists within Canada's politically biased judicial
> system and how that system becomes criminal itself in its overt and
> covert methodologies used to shield the perpetrators of sexual abuse.
>
> When people of power are accused of wrongdoing and there is good
> reason for inquiries to be held then those in such positions exploit
> their influence for their own self-serving benefit and to the
> detriment of our justice system as a whole.
>
> Byron Prior's case, like my own fight with B'nai Brith Canada and the
> Canadian Human Rights Commission, is purposely kept hidden in the
> twilight and shadows constructed by the Zionist-controlled mainstream
> media. Our situations are quite different in terms of the underlying
> reasons for the persecutions we face but the fact that the system
> itself is abusing us both is beyond question. In my case the "crime"
> is speaking the truth as I see it about the Rothschild Zionist global
> conspiracy.
>
> In Byron's case the circumstances are far beyond anything so
> threatening as the intellectual attack that I am being subjected to by
> the state and its Zionist manipulators. His story is a macabre horror
> story compared to my own, the details of which would provide ample
> subject matter for a full length documentary. The reaction, by
> Canada's legal system, to his noble and sincere efforts to gain both
> recognition and justice are frightening and ominous.
>
> We have heard Dean Roger Ray tell everyone that freemasons raped Byron
> Prior's sister. He has told us the "cover-up"has been perpertrated, by
> freemasons, Jesuits, and the illuminati. Now conspiracy retard Arthur
> Topham claims kinship with Byron Prior and the involvment of the
> "State" and the "Zionists" in his "case" and the Byron Prior tragedy.
>
> Last evening over drinks at "a faculty club" at the U of A, I asked
> two members to the Faculty of Law if they knew anything of Mr. Priors
> case. Both relied NOTHING other than two "Charter issues" that have
> recently dealt with by the Newfoundland Supreme Court . Indeed he was
> exculpated and acquitted. None ofus are sure exactly why
>
> Mr.Prior's sexual assault allegations were fully investigated and that
> there was NOT enough evidence to lay charges...especially considering
> the time that has elapsed. As I understand it ...there is NO legal
> means given the lack of evidence to compel Mr. Hickman to provide a
> DNA sample. In fact his CharterRights preclude that. That begs the
> question are Mr. Priors Charter Rights more important or relevant than
> Mr. Hickman's?
>
> So what is justice here? Mr. Hickman ought not be compelled to provide
> body samples merely because Byron prior accuses his of something
> without evidece, reseasonable or probable cause.There appears to be NO
> FACTS in this matter, no evidence to compel further proceedings.
>
> So now with Byron Priors ecouragement the conspiracy constitency has
> embraced his cause. The Zionists are to blame, the freemasons raped
> his sister ad nauseum...whereas the only conspiracy I see.....is in
> Byron Prior's community and his family...they have alll covered up
> this disgusting, inhuman incestuous abuse for generations .
>
> Byron Prior is obviously insane ..after all this who wouldn't be...he
> should provide the evidence of his allegations to compel a DNA sample
> ...simply accept the fact there are no legal grounds to forciably
> obtain one.
>
> Byron Prior has made a bargain with the devil embracing conspiracy
> retards.....he should just put in a deep dark hole.
>
>
> Posted by Seren at 5:02 AM
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/05/nfld-whistleblower-dodges-libe
> l-charge.html
>
> Truth matters
> Defamation law that ignores truth ruled unconstitutional Peter Walsh -
> The Telegram (St. John's, NFLD) Tuesday, May 6
>
> The Supreme Court of Newfoundland has ruled a law that could send
> someone to prison for defamation is unconstitutional.
>
> Justice Lois Hoegg made the decision Friday. Her ruling also struck
> down a criminal case by Crown prosecutors against Byron Prior of Grand
> Bank.
>
> Prior claims that in 1966, a justice official in the province raped
> and impregnated one of his relatives. Crown attorneys say Prior wore
> placards and distributed flyers which published the allegations.
>
> The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary interviewed Prior's relative in
> 2004 and in 2007, but the alleged victim denied she had been sexually
> assaulted or that she even knew the person Prior said had attacked
> her.
>
> Crown prosecutors tried to convict Prior of defamation under Section
> 301 of the Criminal Code, which says "everyone who publishes a
> defamatory libel is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to
> imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years."
>
> The problem is, Hoegg said, the Crown couldn't prove that Prior was
> knowingly spreading lies.
>
> "I find that it is not justified, in our free and democratic society,
> for the Crown to use the heavy hammer of the criminal law against a
> subject for publishing defamatory libel when the Crown is not able to
> show that the subject knows that his statements are false.
>
> "The expression of truthful, unpopular or even false statements
> deserve protection unless expressed in a violent manner," wrote Hoegg.
>
> Hoegg said if the Crown could prove Prior knowingly published
> defamatory libel, it would have charged him under a different section
> of the criminal code that says "everyone who publishes a defamatory
> libel that he knows is false is guilty of an indictable offence and
> liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years."
>
> That law has withheld court challenges. Section 301 - the law which
> does not mention the matter of truth - has been struck down as
> unconstitutional by three other superior courts in Canada.
>
> "The sections catch different types of offender. To me, it naturally
> follows that their purpose or objectives must be different," wrote
> Hoegg. "I then determined that the objective (of Section 301) was not
> so pressing and important as to override freedom of expression. The
> section is offensive to modern day notions of justice."
>
> The decision only applies to criminal applications of defamation law.
> Hoegg said Prior could possibly be sued in civil court over his
> allegations.
>
> Three years ago, a federal politician filed a statement of claim in
> the Supreme Court of Newfoundland and Labrador to have a website that
> contained allegations about him by Prior removed. In the statement,
> the politician said a website posted by Prior accuses him and other
> prominent Newfoundlanders of wrongdoing.
>
> A website containing the allegations is still active ( see 1). Prior
> claims to be a victim of physical and sexual abuse.
>
> pwalsh@thetelegram.com 709-364-2323
>
>
>     2005 01 T 0010
>
>     IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR
>     TRIAL DIVISION
>     BETWEEN:
>
>     WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF
>     AND:
>     BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT
>
>     AND BETWEEN:
>     BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT/PLAINTIFF
>     BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
>     AND: WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF/FIRST DEFENDANT
>     BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
>     AND: T. ALEX HICKMAN SECOND DEFENDANT
>     BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
>     AND: THOMAS MARSHALL THIRD DEFENDANT
>     BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
>     AND: DANNY WILLIAMS FOURTH DEFENDANT
>     BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
>     AND: EDWARD M. ROBERTS FIFTH DEFENDANT
>     BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
>     AND: JOHN CROSBIE SIXTH DEFENDANT
>     BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
>     AND: PATTERSON PALMER SEVENTH DEFENDANT
>     BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
>     SUMMARY OF CURRENT DOCUMENT
>
>     Court File Number(s):2005 01 T 0010
>
>     Date of Filing of Document: 25 January 2005
>
>     Name of Filing Party or Person: Stephen J. May
>
>     Application to which Document being filed relates: Amended
> Application of the Plaintiff/Defendant by Counterclaim to maintain an
> Order
>     restricting publication, to strike portions of the Statement of
> Defence, strike the Counterclaim in it's entirety, and to refer this
>     proceeding to case management.
>
>     Statement of purpose in filing: To maintain an Order restricting
>     publication, to strike portions of the Statement of Defence, strike
>     the Counterclaim in its entirety and refer this proceeding to case
>     management.
>
>     A F F I D A V I T
>
>     I, Stephen J. May, of the City of St. John's, in the Province of
>     Newfoundland and Labrador, Barrister and Solicitor, make oath and
> say as follows:
>
>     THAT I am a Partner in the St. John's office of PATTERSON PALMER
>     solicitors for William Matthews, the Member of Parliament for
>     Random-Burin-St. George's in the Parliament of Canada.
>
>     THAT Mr. Matthews originally retained Mr. Edward Roberts, Q.C. on
> or about 30 April 2002 after Mr. Byron Prior, the Defendant/Plaintiff
> by
>     Counterclaim, had made allegations against Mr. Matthews in a
> publication called "My Inheritance - The truth - Not Fiction: A Town
> with a Secret". In that publication, the allegation was made that Mr.
> Matthews had had sex with a girl who had been prostituted by her
> mother. That girl was alleged to have been Mr. Prior's sister.
>
>     THAT upon being retained, Mr. Edward Roberts wrote a letter to Mr.
> Prior. That letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit "1" to my
> Affidavit.
>
>     THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts' letter to Mr. Prior, Mr. Roberts
>     received a 1 May 2002 e-mail from Mr. Prior. That e-mail is attached
>     as Exhibit "2".
>
>     THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts receipt of the e-mail, Mr. Prior
> swore an Affidavit acknowledging that what had been said in that
> publication was false. That Affidavit is attached as Exhibit "3" to my
> Affidavit.
>     Following Mr. Roberts' receipt of that Affidavit, Mr. Matthews
> advised that he was satisfied not to pursue the matter any further and
> our firm closed our file.
>
>     THAT on or about 25 October 2004, I was retained by Mr. Matthews
>     following his gaining knowledge that a web site, made a series of
>     allegations against him relating to my having sex with a girl of
>     approximately 12 years old through to an approximate age of 15 years
>     old. It also accused him of being a father of one of her children and
>     accused him of having raped that girl. Upon checking the web site I
>     saw that Byron Prior, the Defendant, had been identified as the
> author of the material on the site.
>
>     THAT Mr. Matthews instructed me to write Mr. Prior, to remind him of
>     the fact that the allegations had been admitted to being false
> through a 16 May 2002 Affidavit to advise him of Mr. Matthews'
> intentions to commence legal proceedings if the comments were not
> removed from the web site. A copy of my letter to Mr. Prior is
> attached as Exhibit "4" to this Affidavit.
>
>     THAT I attach as Exhibit "5" a transcript from a 5 November 2004
>     voicemail left by David Amos, identified in the voicemail as a
> friend of Mr. Prior.
>
>     THAT I attach as Exhibit "6" a portion of a 6 November 2004 e-mail
>     from Mr. Amos.
>
>     THAT until I received his voicemail and e-mail, I had never heard
> of Mr. Amos.
>
>     THAT Mr. Amos has continued to send me e-mail since his 5 November
>     e-mail. Including his 6 November 2004 e-mail, I have received a
> total of 15 e-mails as of 23 January 2005. All do not address Mr.
> Matthews' claim or my involvement as Mr. Matthews' solicitor. I attach
> as Exhibit "7" a portion of a 12 January 2005 e-mail that Mr. Amos
> sent to me but originally came to my attention through Ms. Lois Skanes
> whose firm had received a copy. This e-mail followed the service of
> the Statement of Claim on 11 January 2005 on Mr. Prior. I also attach
> as Exhibit "8" a copy of a 19 January 2005 e-mail from Mr. Amos.
>
>     THAT I attach as Exhibit "9" a copy of a 22 November 2004 letter
>     addressed to me from Edward Roberts, the Lieutenant Governor of
>     Newfoundland and Labrador covering a 2 September 2004 letter from Mr.
>     Amos addressed to John Crosbie, Edward Roberts, in his capacity as
>     Lieutenant Governor, Danny Williams, in his capacity as Premier of
> Newfoundland and Labrador, and Brian F. Furey, President of the Law
> Society of Newfoundland and Labrador. I requested a copy of this
> letter from Government House after asking Mr. Roberts if he had
> received any correspondence from Mr. Amos during his previous
> representation of Mr. Matthews. He advised me that he received a
> letter since becoming Lieutenant Governor, portions of which involved
> his representation of Mr. Matthews. Mr. Roberts' letter also covered
>     his reply to Mr. Amos.
>
>     THAT I attach as Exhibit "10" an e-mail from Mr. Amos received on
>     Sunday, 23 January 2005.
>
>     THAT I swear this Affidavit in support of the Application to strike
>     Mr. Prior's counterclaim.
>
>     SWORN to before me at
>     St. John's, Province of Newfoundland and Labrador this 24th day of
> January, 2005.
>
>     Signed by Della Hart
>     STEPHEN J. MAY
>     Signature STAMP
>     DELLA HART
>     A Commissioner for Oaths in and for
>     the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador. My commission expires
> on December 31, 2009
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Green MLAs hit with 'social media storm' following vaccination bill abstentions

Controversial Bill 11 defeated 22-20 after 3 Green MLAs abstain from vote


Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 24, 2020 6:00 AM AT



From left, Green Party MLA Kevin Arseneau, party leader David Coon and MLA Megan Mitton, pictured at the New Brunswick legislature, all abstained from voting on the controversial mandatory vaccination bill. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Two Green Party MLAs who chose not to vote on a contentious vaccination bill last week are defending the decision to abstain in the face of what one calls "a social media storm."

Kevin Arseneau and Megan Mitton say they've heard the condemnation from across the political spectrum that they should not have sat out the vote.

But they both say they would do it again.

"I've been thinking a lot over the last few days about if there was a better path to take, but I didn't want to align with anti-vaxxers and I still didn't think this was good policy," says Mitton, the MLA for Memramcook-Tantramar.

"So it was 'hold my nose and vote yes for legislation that I didn't think was good?' I don't think we should do that type of thing either. We should go back and make better policy."

Arseneau, the MLA for Kent North, said he hasn't been swayed by the criticism either. "Even with all the reaction and everything … I'd do it again tomorrow in the House," he said.


Both Kevin Arseneau, pictured, and Megan Mitton said they would still abstain if the vote was held again. (Radio-Canada)

The bill was defeated 22-20. If all three Green MLAs had voted yes, it would have passed.

Green Leader David Coon explained his decision last Thursday, but his two colleagues had not spoken publicly about why they didn't vote either way.

'You hid'

Progressive Conservative Education Minister Dominic Cardy slammed the abstentions last week, saying the Green MLAs were afraid of "extremists in your base. … Legislators are elected to legislate. You hid."






Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers called it "a complete abdication of duty by the Green party."

 
Education Minister Dominic Cardy said the goal of the bill was to immunize enough children to create herd immunity so that the small number of children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons would still be protected from an outbreak. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Even retired NDP leader Elizabeth Weir, who rarely comments on current provincial issues, said on Twitter she was "so disappointed" with the Greens. She never abstained during 14 years as an MLA, she added. "I took my lumps."

There was also scathing criticism from the public on social media and in comments on news coverage.

Mitton and Arseneau reject Cardy's accusation they were responding to anti-vaccination sentiment among Green supporters.

"If I wanted to please them, I would not have come out and said we need to be working on a new, better, improved bill," Arseneau said.

The only other MLA who abstained on the vote was PC Agriculture, Aquaculture and Fisheries Minister Ross Wetmore. He refused to discuss his abstention.






"Where the bill has already been decided upon, I have no further comment," he said in an email to CBC News.
The bill would have eliminated religious and philosophical exemptions to the mandatory vaccination policy requirement for school children. Unvaccinated kids without valid medical reasons would not have been allowed to go to school starting in September 2021.

Mitton and Arseneau, both elected for the first time in 2018, say while they supported the idea of the bill, Cardy didn't have complete data on vaccination rates and couldn't demonstrate such a strict measure was needed now.

"There's a bunch of steps that public health experts say should be taken before you get to an extreme measure like excluding children from accessing education," Mitton said.

"I do think that this is a tool that could be in the toolbox to be used in the event that it is needed. The evidence was not provided that it is needed right now."

Herd-immunity threshold

Cardy's numbers showed about one per cent of the school population is not vaccinated. But he said with a three per cent vaccination failure rate, the numbers were getting close to falling below the 95 per cent coverage rate needed for herd immunity.






That refers to enough vaccinations to allow a population to avoid infections and protect those who can't be immunized for legitimate medical reasons.


If the bill had passed, children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not have been allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021. (Paul Vernon/The Associated Press)

Cardy predicted that with anti-vaccination sentiment and misinformation spreading, a tougher policy was needed.

Arseneau said if the rate falls under the herd-immunity threshold, "then absolutely that is what should set off mandatory vaccination."

But he said it should be a last resort, because children barred from attending public schools won't benefit from learning about how to understand data and how to use the scientific method.

The Greens tried to amend the bill last week to give the chief medical officer of health the power to declare the bill in effect when the rate fell below the threshold. But the amendment was defeated.

Arseneau said while he had planned to vote for the bill originally, "my abstention was an invitation to continue working on getting our vaccination numbers up [and] making good vaccination policy."






It's not anti-vaxx vs. pro-science, says Mitton

Mitton, who said she and her children are all vaccinated, said many public health officials, including British Columbia's chief medical officer Dr. Bonnie Henry, have suggested stricter mandatory vaccination policies are not the way to go.

"This shouldn't have been anti-science, anti-vaxx versus pro-science, pro-vaccine, but that's the way it's been framed," Mitton said. "So I couldn't support the bill as it stood, but I also didn't want to align myself with anti-vaxxers."


Green MLA Megan Mitton pointed to public health experts who say stricter mandatory vaccination may not be the best policy option for immunizing school children. (CBC)

Both MLAs say they've been criticized by supporters of the bill but also by anti-vaccination activists who wanted them to vote against it.

"It has been a bit of a social media storm," Mitton said.

"Some people said [abstaining] was the easy choice," Arseneau said. "Politically this was the worse position we could have ever took, because it's right in the middle of a polarized debate. You have people who feel so strongly about it and so strongly against it."

Mitton and Arseneau both say once they explain the complexity of the issue to their constituents, they understand better why they abstained.



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Norman Young
Never trust a politician who has a pierced nose.


Jos Allaire
... even less one with a religious symbol!

John Oliver
Reply to @Norman Young: I think the first 4 words are plenty.











Jos Allaire
I strongly do believe in science, objective science, that is! But it is hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. And the chaff is the money. It was claimed that there was no problem with agent orange, DDT and glyphosate, to name a few. Oh wait... Now they want to force us to have some stuff injected into our system. Therefore, don't blame some to be overly apprehensive.










Randy McNally
The fact that it was a free vote and they all abstained does not bode well for Coon in my opinion. At least one of them should have voted. Or two of them vote to cancel each others vote would have been the best way to go with exaatly the same result as 3 abstentions.








john smith
 apparently pointing out herd imunity is between 60-80 % not 95 is taboo on this site


Randy McNally
Reply to @john smith: Very Interesting...Anything that goes against "The ministry of truth" usually, as David Amos says...."Goes poof"

Fred Estey 
Reply to @Randy McNally: Methinks you're referencing your alter ego. N'esy Pas? 
 















Lou Bell
These 3 and Wetmore , as well as Northrup should be ashamed of themselves ! They REALLY , REALLY let those down who could not be vaccinated due to compromised immune systems !! ALL should resign immediately !!!!!!!!!!! 


























Joey Joncas
3 /45.
Kevin Arseneau, party leader
David Coon and
MLA Megan Mitton

You guy did good.. you didnt have to vote. An you dont need an explanation...
Making the vaccination obligatory is against the chart of right and. Liberty...

Everyone who Vote against and these 3.
They fight for our rights... thanks


Lou Bell 
Reply to @Joey Joncas: They FAILED the people of NB greatly ! Especially those who ARE UNABLE to be vaccinated and whose immune system is compromised ! They chose the anti vaxxers over those who had no choice ! Very shameful decision ! And Arseneau ? It could have been served on a silver platter and approved by all other MLA's and he would have voted no. His SANB roots are there to the core 

Randy McNally
Reply to @Lou Bell: I know of people who are immune compromised and were very much against bill 11

Agata Haueisen 
Reply to @Lou Bell: do you know how many children in NB are immune compromised and can't be vaccinated or do you like Cardy don't care about data before trying to take people's personal rights away?

Lou Bell 
Reply to @Agata Haueisen: I believe I saw a figure of around 1300 children ! And the children of anti vaxxers ? Their rights would be taken away BY THEIR PARENTS , who choose not to follow the rules !

Fred Brewer 
Reply to @Randy McNally: Really? And why is that?

Lou Bell
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Randy has no backup ! Social media !

Debbie Vissers 
Reply to @Joey Joncas: No they did not fight for our rights. They were cowards.

Fred Brewer  
Reply to @Lou Bell: I should have said to Randy, cue the crickets as I don't think he knows a single immune compromised person and if he did, that person was not against bill 11.

Jos Allaire
Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you have a job as you are always harping on here against Francophones. Too much time on your hand.

















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Mandatory vaccination bill defeated 22-20

Bill sought to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for schoolchildren


Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 18, 2020 1:47 PM AT


Education Minister Dominic Cardy said the goal of the bill was to immunize enough children to create herd immunity so that the small number of children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons would still be protected from an outbreak. (CBC)

Proposed legislation to strengthen mandatory-vaccination rules for schoolchildren in New Brunswick has been defeated in the provincial legislature.

Education Minister Dominic Cardy's bill, to eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions from the requirement for vaccinations, was defeated 22-20 in a free vote among all four parties in the legislature.

The two largest parties split on the issue, with six Progressive Conservative MLAs and 12 Liberals voting against it.


The three People's Alliance MLAs all voted no, while the three Green MLAs abstained.
"There are people who make decisions based on evidence on both sides of the House," Cardy tweeted after the vote. "And those that don't."

Cardy said he was disappointed a majority of MLAs "couldn't stand up against the bullying, the harassment, the threats" from anti-vaccination activists.

I understand how they could succumb to that pressure, but that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed in it.
- Dominic Cardy, education minister
"I understand how they could succumb to that pressure, but that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed in it."

But Attorney-General Andrea Anderson-Mason, who voted against the bill, said her decision was based not on emotion but on a lack of evidence.

She said Cardy had failed to produce data showing an urgent need to restrict parental rights.



"There was no evidence to show there had been an impact on the number of immunizations in our province as a result of the anti-vaxx movement," she said.

"We were not provided with any information to show that people were even using the exemptions, and I think those are critical bits of data."


People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said the vote demonstrated how democracy should work. (Ed Hunter/CBC)


Alliance Leader Kris Austin made the same argument. He said Cardy failed to win over a majority of MLAs because "he brought us incomplete information … to fix a system that nobody says is broken."

He was referring to the fact that data on vaccinations and exemptions from two out of the province's seven school districts still wasn't available as recently as this week, when a committee of MLAs examined the bill.

"Whether you like the outcome or don't like the outcome, it is a representation of how true democracy should work," Austin said of the vote.
Premier Blaine Higgs was among the PC MLAs who voted for the bill.





"Whether the bill was completely flawless or not, it provided that assurance to families that we were going to do our part to protect the health of students in classrooms," he said.

But given the emotion surrounding the issue, Higgs said a free vote was warranted. He said with the bill defeated, government will need to monitor vaccination rates and promote immunization to ensure rates don't go down.

Close to slipping below herd immunity

Cardy argued that 95 per cent of children need to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity, in which there's enough resistance to a disease that it's unlikely to spread in a school.

About one per cent of school children are now exempt, but Cardy argued this week that with three per cent of vaccinations not working, the province was already perilously close to slipping below the herd immunity threshold.

Green Party Leader David Coon said he and his two caucus colleagues abstained because, while they support mandatory vaccinations, they think it should be the chief medical officer of health who has the power to eliminate exemptions "based on public health requirements."

Coon tried to amend the bill to that effect Wednesday but his amendment was defeated.



If the bill had passed, children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not have been allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021. Critics called it an assault on parental rights. (Paul Vernon/The Associated Press)


Asked if an eventual COVID-19 vaccine should be mandatory, Coon said, "I'll have to think about that."

Cardy scorned Coon and his two colleagues for not taking a stand one way or the other.

"I expected a lot better from the members of the Green Party," he said.

The minister said he would "carry on the conversation" with members of the two parties that had some MLAs support his bill, the PCs and the Liberals, to find other ways to improve vaccination rates.

Cardy aggressively pushed for the legislation, sometimes accusing his own PC colleagues of not paying attention to science and facts.

Anderson said it was the lack of clear numbers on vaccinations and exemptions, not Cardy's personal style, that led to the bill's defeat.





"He has fought very hard for what he believes in and he's to be commended for that," she said. "I don't know that would have necessarily made a difference, the approach that he took, because at the end of the day I was hung up on the missing data."

The vote was originally reported by the clerk of the legislature as 22-19 against the bill, but it was later revised to 22-20 against.

How members of the legislature voted

Voted for the bill
Progressive Conservatives: 13
Glen Savoie, Blaine Higgs, Trevor Holder, Ted Flemming, Sherry Wilson, Dorothy Shephard, Carl Urquhart, Mary Wilson, Ernie Steeves, Bill Oliver, Dominic Cardy, Bruce Fitch, Stewart Fairgrieve.
Liberals: 7




Lisa Harris, Jean-Claude d'Amours, Keith Chiasson, Rob McKee, Jacques LeBlanc, Isabelle Theriault, Gerry Lowe.

Voted against the bill
Progressive Conservatives: 6
Jake Stewart, Gary Crossman, Bruce Northrup, Mike Holland, Jeff Carr, Andrea Anderson-Mason.
Liberals: 12
Guy Arseneault, Denis Landry, Cathy Rogers, Brian Kenny, Roger Melanson, Andrew Harvey, Francine Landry, Stephen Horsman, Gilles LePage, Chuck Chiasson, Monique LeBlanc, Benoît Bourque.




People's Alliance: 3
Kris Austin, Rick DeSaulniers, Michelle Conroy.
Independent: 1
Robert Gauvin.

Abstained
Progressive Conservatives: 1
Ross Wetmore.
Greens: 3
David Coon, Kevin Arseneau, Megan Mitton.


About the Author






Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 



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David Amos
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Methinks Cardy cannot deny that my relentless reminding of everyone about his fondness for butter tarts caused a few of his buddies to bail out of his punky boat before it sunk N'esy Pas?


Guy Richard
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Who cares they will get sick, c'est la vie.


David Amos
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Reply to @Guy Richard: So you say











David Amos

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Methinks Cardy did not have enough butters tarts to keep the Green Meanies and a liberal or two on his side N'esy Pas?


michael levesque
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Reply to @David Amos: hey you should run for the Liberals cause you talk like a Liberal you make no sense at all!!!!


David Amos
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Reply to @michael levesque: Clearly you have no clue as to who I am













David Amos
"Cardy said he was disappointed a majority of MLAs "couldn't stand up against the bullying, the harassment, the threats" from anti-vaccination activists."

Yea Right Methinks after he has some more butter tarts I bet that Cardy will dream up some reasons why his buddies did not support his nonsense N'esy Pas?


Jecht Almasy 
Reply to @David Amos: Our charter of Rights protect us against governmental bullying.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Jecht Almasy: that’s why Cardy tried to ram it through with the notwithstanding clause, a sure sign of tyranny


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
I *think* it "telling" that 6 Conservatives voted against Mt Cardy's pet project. I'm guessing they can't stand him either?


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: When Higgy hired him as his Chief of Staff I swear I giggled for weeks and made Cardy crazy with emails about our past encounters. When they decided to send me Butter Tarts with a signed note I almost died laughing and named the stray cat who ate their treats Mr Higgs It was all incredibly funny as Northrup tried to pretend it never happened when I ran against him later that year.


Terry Tibbs  
Reply to @David Amos:
Will you be blogging this?


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Already doing so but its private for now because I am far from done


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: The truly incredible part is the fact that the anti vaxxers knew everything last year and did nothing with it Go Figure


Terry Tibbs  
Reply to @David Amos:
Maybe they were trusting anti-Cardy to take over? They appear to be right, the ONLY reason this failed was Mr Cardy, anyone else would have gotten this passed.



David Amos

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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks the anti vaxxers thought had Cardy beat last year so they made fun of me as well but when the narcissistic clown upped the ante with notwithstanding nonsense the worm turned. However once it was removed I truly thought Cardy was gonna pull it off until the leader of the Green Meanies decided have a hissy fit. There was no way to predict that N'esy Pas?


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Trust that I can tell Cardy stories all night long but they would go "Poof"


David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: CBC introduced us

NDP gets help from democracy expert
CBC News · Posted: Jan 09, 2006 4:23 PM AT

An international expert on democracy has flown all the way from Egypt to help NDP candidate John Carty campaign in Fredericton.

Dominic Cardy is with a group called The National Democratic Institute. Its members include such people as former U.S. President Jimmy Carter. The group's mission is to teach democratic values and spread democracy around the world.

Cardy has taught about democracy in Algeria, Bangladesh, and Cambodia during the past few years. When he heard his friend John Carty was running for office back in his home town of Fredericton, he hopped on a plane.

"It was a strange experience," Cardy said. "One evening I was watching the sun go down over the pyramids, and the next evening watched it go down over Fredericton airport as I came into land."

Cardy is no relation to the NDP candidate. But he loves elections and loves getting people pumped up about democracy.

Carty the candidate is running against federal Indian Affairs Minister Andy Scott, Conservative Pat Lynch, Green candidate Philip Duchastel and independent David Amos. The riding has sent Scott to Ottawa for the last four elections, despite the best efforts of the other parties.

Cardy says he doesn't care how tough the race his – he just wants people to participate in the process. "People have forgotten how incredibly precious these gifts that our ancestors fought for are and were just giving them away. It makes me furious when I talk to people and people just say 'ah there's no point in voting.'"

After election day, Dominic Cardy is flying back home to his wife in Kathmandu, Nepal. He hopes to leave behind a new Member of Parliament for Fredericton, his friend John Carty for the NDP.


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val harris
The problem was the education minister put this bill forward not the health minister. What’s sad is that Cardy thinks he’s above everyone and really he will be a one term pc MLA.


Lou Bell 
Reply to @val harris: Oh , the Liberals are so shallow that they'd sacrifice the health of school kids because of who put the bill forward ! Not for the good it would cause ! Gotcha !!!


David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you wish to forget how many Conservative voted against your precious bill N'esy Pas?


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
And poor Lou is blind to that fact. I'm *thinking* those 6 Conservatives can't stand him either?




























Guy Richard
Who cares they will get sick, c'est la vie.


David Amos
Reply to @Guy Richard: So you say


























Murray Brown
A sad day for science and for the children. For those not vaccinating... Never ever travel with your children to a foreign country where diseases like polio still exist. One swim in the water and they'll be crippled for life.


Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Murray Brown: no the majority will get vaccines


David Amos
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Reply to @Murray Brown: Methinks is time to take a nap and try to get over your bitterness N'esy Pas?


Fudder 18
Reply to @Murray Brown: Look up why they no longer give the polio vaccine.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Murray Brown: actually before polio vaccine arrived 99.999% of people were unharmed by polio, CDC vital statistics are online for every year in the 1950s and prior


David Amos
Reply to @Murray Brown: Methinks you and your hero Cardy are not having a good day N'esy Pas?

























Lou Bell
Leader of the Greens puts himself ahead of the kids.


David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks the boss of the Green Meanies whose name we can't say certainly puts himself ahead of your heroes Cardy and Higgy N'esy Pas?




























Lou Bell
Two of the Greens voted against tne Bill because their leader didn't get his amendment added and he had a lip on ! The other just doesn't understand what common sense really means 


Terry Tibbs
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Just can't get it right can you Lou.
Give the thing another read, and if there are any words you don't understand you should look them up, and learn something.

 
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Lou doesn't read anything


Buddy Best
Reply to @Lou Bell: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt.


David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you?


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Try looking up the word "Abstain", and add it to your internal dictionary, then you will have 2 words there and they won't be lonely.



























Naomi Forbes
What I still fail to understand is if you are vaccinated then how can you get the disease from an unvaccinated person? It might be a dumb question but does anyone know the answer?


Murray Brown
Reply to @Naomi Forbes: You can't... If you're vaccinated then you don't get the disease that you were vaccinated for... Ever!


Naomi Forbes
Reply to @Murray Brown: .... so why so much animosity shown towards people who aren't vaccinated then if the vaccinated ones are safe forever?


Jeff Leblanc
Reply to @Naomi Forbes: my take is people dont like when a vocal minority thinks they know more than the majority. It comes off as arrogance on their part and they are usually preachy and try and push their beliefs on others. That's why I dont like them. I'm sure others feel the same


Fudder 18
Reply to @Murray Brown: You kind of do, many cases of measles are vaccine derived, and mumps vaccine..fully vaccinated populations, as on ships or university campus, are having outbreaks. Polio, yup, from the vaccine.


James Smythe 
Reply to @Naomi Forbes: This is the burning question. If vaccines are such guaranteed protection, why be scared of those who don't have it? By extension, if masks are such great protection, why are they also scared of people who don't wear them? It's the ultimate hypocrisy.


Fred Brewer
Reply to @James Smythe: Your burning question has been answered at least a hundred times on this site. For you to not know the answer by now is what I call "willful blindness". I won't waste my time explaining it to you once again because tomorrow you will just ask the same question again. When I see this tactic, I realize the reason anti-vaxxers us this tactic so often is because that's all they have. Sad. Truly sad.


James Smythe
Reply to @Fred Brewer: I'm not an "anti-vaxxer", I have all mine. Whether or not someone else gets one is therefore of no concern to me since I'm protected.


Brian Cohen
Reply to @Naomi Forbes:
the problem is for people who for medical reasons CANNOT be vaccinated.
it is for these people that "herd immunity" is required.
that there are also a large number of people including children who're not vaccinated only complicates things and is reason for upsurges in preventable illnesses like measles


Pat McGregor
Reply to @Naomi Forbes:
Newborns and infants who have not yet been fully vaccinated are typically at greatest risk should an outbreak of disease occur. Prevention of outbreaks reduces infant hospitalizations, complications, and deaths.
Vaccines are highly effective in most people, but in a small percentage of people, the vaccine is less effective at eliciting a response that provides good immunity. Those people could potentially be infected and spread disease to a vulnerable person, as can unvaccinated people spread disease.
Thus a robust vaccination program provides a better shield for infants, immunocompromised people, and for those who cannot be vaccinated.


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David Amos  
Reply to @James Smythe: Methinks mean old people such as Fred don't even understand the term cognitive dissonance They usually just block you if they can' argue you thereby sticking their fat nasty arses in the air while their heads are buried in the bullshit they support N'esy Pas?

























James Edward
On a positive political note, this is the first time I can recall such a varied stance on a topic. Look at the politician who voted for what they thought was right. They didn't tow the party line. Real democracy at work. Rare these days.


Randy McNally
Reply to @James Edward: Such is the beauty of a minority government. The people actually have a voice.


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: Kinda sorta


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @James Edward:
I'm *thinking* the result would have been different if this was brought forward by somebody actually likeable?



























James Edward
Don't worry bill gates will get us all eventually. New world order here we come!


Naomi Forbes
Reply to @James Edward: ...all I can say about Bill Gates besides his love of money is his very creepy smile.


James Edward
Reply to @Naomi Forbes: Windows is always full of viruses...what make him think he can keep them out of people...


David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: BINGO


Randy McNally
Reply to @James Edward: Windows and viruses go hand in hand and it's no mistake. And anti-virus to the rescue!
























James Smythe
Let me go make some popcorn quickly while I watch the hypochondriac class absolutely LOSE their minds :D


Lou Bell
Reply to @James Smythe: Says the " Me Party " member ! Leadership Convention for the party Saturday at Timmies . Tony and Dave are on the ticket !


James Smythe
Reply to @Lou Bell: Looney bin Lou Bell strikes again!


David Amos
Reply to @James Smythe: Pass the popcorn


James Smythe
Reply to @David Amos: David, you take a lot of flak around here I noticed, but I think you have a great sense of humour, and we'd probably get along well.


David Amos 
Reply to @James Smythe: Methinks many of our Forefathers who fought for our rights and freedoms said when the flak was the greatest they knew they were right over the target N'esy Pas?



























Joseph Vacher
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Up Next: NB decides to stop teaching evolution in favor of creationism


David Amos
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Reply to @Joseph Vacher: Bitter?




























Michel Pelletier
now if we only had a law to sue somebody because the refuse to be vaccinated, opinion would cetainly change


James Edward
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: no then you'd have civil war


Jesus Murphy
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: ... because more laws will make the world a better place ... and more cops, too, right? Maybe Bill Gates eugenics agenda is not such a bad thing if it only takes out the dummies who willingly line up for his vaccines.


David Amos
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Methinks even Cardy knows that I would sue the dude that would dare to make such a law N'esy Pas?





























Esteban Burke
Ding Dong the wicked Bill is dead!


David Amos
Reply to @Esteban Burke: lol


David Amos
Reply to @Esteban Burke: However Cardy almost got you and your little dog too 





























Rob Franklin
It's a real shame. Look at what only ONE virus has done to the world today.


David Amos
Reply to @Rob Franklin: Look again


Rob Franklin
Reply to @David Amos: touche


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Rob Franklin: even worse, look at what the absurd over reaction to one virus has done to the world. All the death stats you see are people dying with cOVID as a co morbidity, that doesn’t mean it caused their death. Median age of death “with” cOVID in BC? 86. 86!!!! An iCFR of 0.26% all ages and we wrecked the economy and saw massive spikes in suicides and domestic violence. Wow, shameful.


Lou Bell
Reply to @Esteban Burke: Where are your sources for " massive spikes in suicides and domestic violnce " ?? I saw an article that indicated domestic violence IS DOWN !!!


Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Rob Franklin: still no vaccine for it either


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Lou Bell: weird you ask someone for sources while not providing your own. From MSN: “ “We’ve never seen numbers like this, in such a short period of time,” Dr. Mike deBoisblanc, head of trauma at John Muir Medical Center, told local station ABC7. “I mean, we’ve seen a year’s worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks.” He added that he thinks “it’s time” to end the state shutdown.”

Article headline so you can search for it as urls likely get blocked here “ ‘A Year’s Worth of Suicide Attempts in the Last Four Weeks’: California Doctor Calls for End to Lockdown”


Joseph Vacher 
Reply to @Esteban Burke: thats one guys opinion


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: it’s not an opinion, it’s statistics; sorry you can’t recognize the difference.

Opinion: “I think it’s hotter today than it was yesterday”

Fact: “yesterday was 27C and today is 29C therefore it is hotter today”


Joseph Vacher
Reply to @Esteban Burke: Fact: 1 of 2 of us has a mathematics degree, the other doesn't.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: that’s weird, it auto-corrected “fallacious arguments” to “mathematics” in your post.


James Edward
Reply to @Esteban Burke: burn


Randy McNally
Reply to @Rob Franklin: If you've noticed the virus cannot nor should not take all of the credit for the mess the world is in. It's a scapegoat. The US economy was in deep dodo last fall before this all started.


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: YUP Methinks everybody knew why all the big corporate dudes were quitting and cashing out long before this virus had a name N'esy Pas?


Fudder 18
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Only about 2% away from natural herd immunity now, but with over 99% recovery rate no vaccine needed. Fauci was worried about reaching herd immunity before the vaccine, he lost. Baylor worked for yrs. on a coronavirus vaccine, animals were getting so ill and dying. No worries, these guys are skipping the animal trials. Twilight Zone. 




























Michel Pelletier
this is a sad day. If there was a vaccin against cancer heart disease ect so on , everybody would jump at the vaccin.


David Amos
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Don't bet on it


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: nope  

 
Joseph Vacher
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: the smart people would. the rest we can do without


James Edward 
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: There already a vaccine for those it's called eating healthy, exercise, laughter, and a loving family. For most people it's lifestyle choices that lead to deceases. And of course there still would be some that would get heart decease and cancer, but not to the level we currently see. Also no money to be made on healthy people.


fred cooper
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: How are you SO SURE that the ingredients in vaccines don't cause cancer? If you look at a the vaccine excipient list you may be surprised...


Buddy Best
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Wrong!!! There will always be those who do not trust government and for good reason. They are not to be trusted!!!! remember 911 and B d S 




























Jane Sherrard
The unvaccinated children do not deserve to have society believe they are infectious beasts. Most adults aren’t vaccinated and where are all those scary diseases? Ask your government how many of the recent whooping cough and measles cases in NB were vaccinated. If main stream media could get an honest answer, they may begin to see a bigger picture - but it would mean using critical thinking skills. What are the odds of that?


David Amos
Reply to @Jane Sherrard: Well put


Michel Pelletier
Reply to @Jane Sherrard: you are ill inform, children who get sick from whooping get it because the vaccin has lost it's potency


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: that is wholly incorrect, the vaccine doesn’t prevent infection or transmission, it lessens the severity of the spasms. Whooping cough outbreaks occur regardless of vaccine coverage rates and are cyclical, most cases occur from vaccinated asymptomatic individuals coughing.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: no that’s actually how science says the vaccine works.


Joseph Vacher
Reply to @Joseph Vacher: https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/publications/healthy-living/2016-vaccine-uptake-canadian-adults-survey.html


Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Jane Sherrard: most adults ARE vaccinated. 91 percent in fact as per HealthCanada.ca. Go look it up if you don't believe me.


fred cooper 
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Actually it says only 10% of adults over 18 received a pertussis booster. So no... most adults are not vaccinated.


Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @fred cooper: keep reading


Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @fred cooper: the fact I need to point out a booster and vaccination are not one in the same tells me there's no point in trying to explain anything further to you. Good day.


Buddy Best
Reply to @Jane Sherrard: Agent orange will not harm you.....right away.


Esteban Burke 
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: if you’re immune you don’t need a booster therefore with only 6% of adults up to date on their vaccinations, how about going after that ahe group instead of the one with only 1% filing NMEs and that doesn’t even mean it’s against all vaccines. The lack of logic in the Minister’s Bill is astounding.

Randy McNally
Reply to @Jane Sherrard: Yes but you probably should have said "fully vaccinated" And yes many say the measles outbreak in KV last year was from vaccine "shedding" but the ptb will not comment. So only those effected can tell us.

Randy McNally
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Why should she look it up when it's obvious that you did not or you would no that it's not true. It's probably true that the majority of adults probably believe they are fully vaccinated but that's about it.



























Dianne MacPherson
SHAME on the Green Party for sitting on the fence !!!

 
David Amos
Reply to @Dianne MacPherson: Welcome back to the circus


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Dianne MacPherson:
I *think* democracy was served. They recommended a change, they were refused, they voted accordingly.


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I disagree Methinks I had a lot do with my teasing Cardy and his buddies about them sending me butter tarts before the last election that caused me to run in a provincial election for the first time since 2006. Then the is all the people I was talking to on the phone about butter tarts etc for the past couple of years. Trust that Cardy knows that yesterday his pal Chucky Leblanc and his pals figured out I was a serious as a heart attack about it and even he got upset His videos and their Facebook proved it yesterday but I suspect that everything will soon go "Poof" as usual N'esy Pas?



























Justin Gunther
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Can we have the most recent information please? I understand this is a representative democracy and we trust our representatives to make our decisions for us.

But can we have it anyway?

Can we also get some other opinion's on Senior Health Professional Dr. Dominic Cardy's assessment that 95% is required for herd immunity?


David Amos
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks many would agree that you are flogging a dead horse N'esy Pas?


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @David Amos: So let it burn, just because?


David Amos
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks its because even the boss of the Green Meanies would agree that we get the governments we deserve N'esy Pas?


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @David Amos: What we have is a government that only works properly when its citizens hold it accountable. That's what I've been taught, at least.

But I think I understand where you're coming from.


Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: How's the " Me Party " of 5 doing ? Leadership Convention planned ? Table for 5 at Timmies !!!


David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: I am no party of any politcal party and I don't go to Timmies because the RCMP enjoy harassing folks there


Lou Bell
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Reply to @Lou Bell: The Trump / Pence wannabes ticket - Dave and Tony !


David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: You and the RCMP know that I don' know your buddy "Tony"




























Ed Smith
So the MLAs who voted against this would rather support the parents who want to be able send their unvaccinated kids to school and endanger kids who can't get vaccinated?

Sad day for science. I really thought our MLAs were a bit more intelligent than this. Why are we bothering to waste all this money on universities. Let's just go back to how they did things in the Middle Ages and base policy on the noisy crowd. They'll be after witches next.


David Amos
Reply to @Ed Smith: I am kinda fond of certain witches so trust that i would come to their defence

 
Esteban Burke
Reply to @Ed Smith: science includes mathematics, you have no idea what reasons those 1% of people have for filing NMEs and it could be for a single vaccine. I hope you welcome being judged someday yourself, more and more it’s sadly becoming the Canadian way.

 
Esteban Burke
Reply to @Ed Smith: Middle Ages? Let’s look at CDC data shall we? CDC is Health Canada’s chief research partner by the way and most of the science on our vaccine schedule comes from them.

Deaths per 100,000; measles

1904 - 11.0
1920 - 8.8
1962 - 0.2

A 99%+ reduction in deaths in just 58 years. Vaccine for measles first arrived in? 1963! All that reduction without vaccines. Instead of going back to the Middle Ages, how about we take each VPD and examine whether it follows the pattern seen with measles or not in the 50 years prior to each disease’s vaccine arriving. Or are you scared to see what the science actually says?


Michel Pelletier
Reply to @Esteban Burke: you nailed it


Ed Smith
Reply to @Esteban Burke: Sure. I'll ignore the fact that the World Health Organization, every major medical organization, the health departments of practically every country, province, and state in the world all support immunization of children. And I'll assume that you know better.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Ed Smith: they don’t support compulsory vaccination without informed consent but if straw man fallacies are all you’ve got...


fred cooper
Reply to @Ed Smith: There has never been a documented case of an unvaccinated child giving a disease (that they don't have) to an immuno-compromised child. There is however, cases of vaccinated children giving other vaccinated children the disease that they are immunized against. There is also a phenomena called vaccine shedding, you should look that up, before you blame the unvaxxed child.


John Grail
Reply to @Ed Smith: Saying "science" over and over again proves nothing


Randy McNally 
Reply to @Ed Smith: It's a sad day for science when DC is a spokesman for it. And where did you ever get the idea that politicians are intelligent? Ambitious - yes. Attention seekers -check. but intelligent - no more than any other segment of society and in some cases far less.




























Dan Boulin
The very last sentence in this article:
“Asked if an eventual COVID-19 vaccine should be mandatory, Coon said, "I'll have to think about that."
- And what exactly do you need to think about, I ask?


David Amos
Reply to @Dan Boulin: the next election


Dan Boulin
Reply to @David Amos: Precisely


































ANNE MILLAR
Where are the rights and freedoms of those people who are unable for medical reasons to be vaccinated? Who will protect them from communicable diseases which are very dangerous for them. And in response to another comment, for those who cannot for medical reasons be vaccinated, yes one person with the disease is scary. Whatever happened to the belief in the greater good for our community.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @ANNE MILLAR: Perspective is everything sometimes.


Jan Toffe
Reply to @ANNE MILLAR: Anne You are falling for Minister Cardy's nonsense. Whether a few more kids are vaccinated or not is not going to help those the immuno-compromised.
The fact is we will always have flu's, and colds around, that they must avoid. We will always have whooping cough outbreaks because that is a failing vaccine, we will always get small measles outbreaks, these vaccines are not perfect so the immuno-compromised have to be careful anyways or stay home.
Raising the vaccination level 2 points will not help them. Anyways most parents against this Bill 11 are not against all vaccines, they just do not want to get them all, there are so many now. Sure get you measles vaccine, but do I really need all these new ones, some of dubious benefit and risk?


David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks your buddy Cardy just learned that the hard way N'esy Pas?






























Justin Gunther
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The vaxxers don't even know why they're mad.


David Amos
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks you should think again N'esy Pas?


 

























Michael Henheffer
So one of the big arguments I have seen for the side against this is that it was the government overstepping its bounds in telling people what to do and taking away freedoms. Can any of them explain to me how this is different than having to have a license to drive or having to have a seatbelt on? To use government funded roads, I have to follow their rules on seatbelts, cars, traffic laws, insurance, etc. How is that not overstepping bounds if this bill was?


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Michael Henheffer: It's because enough people are already getting the vaccines to reach herd immunity. Therefore, it's an UNnecessary power grab based on all available information.


Bob Smith
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Reply to @Michael Henheffer: You can't figure it out? Really? Injection is not learning to drive.


Bob Smith
Reply to @Justin Gunther: If herd immunity already existed, this would have never been brought up. I find your argument about "power grab" lacks any merit and evidence.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Bob Smith: I don't know what to tell you other than research the issue at hand. There are other news stories out there with relevant data. Have a nice day Bob.


Bob Smith
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Other news stories...like links to anti vaccine sites? I know what vaccines protect people against and the horrors the diseases can produce. I don't base my knowledge on invalid claims and histrionics.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Bob Smith: Oh I think there's some on the global platform, definitely others here at the CBC. Probably CTV as well. I don't think I have ever visited an "anti-vaccine" site per se.


Jan Toffe
Reply to @Michael Henheffer: Seat belts and traffic laws are a terrible example. They dont have serious risk like V.


David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: I repeat our children are not cattle


Michel Pelletier
Reply to @David Amos: and yet we immunize cattle


David Amos
Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Cattle are property People are not


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Michael Henheffer: seat belts cannot cause encephalitis just by virtue of being correctly buckled, vaccines can even when being correctly administered. I’m glad you asked and I hope this clears it up for you.


Esteban Burke
Reply to @Bob Smith: erm, they already admitted herd immunity existed in the hearings, were you not watching? Cardy said this was a preventative measure.


Jesus Murphy
Reply to @Michael Henheffer: ... it isn't different. I am against all that BS ... and so are more and more people everyday. #Voluntaryism


David Amos
Reply to @Esteban Burke: Trust that I know far more about encephalitis than you and your hero Cardy do




























Matt Smith
Put it to a referendum.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Matt Smith: Why? So the UNinformed public can make the wrong decision? Do you understand the significance of the vote going this way even with the full push of the state broadcaster behind it?

Do you understand how the bill is completely UNnecessary?


David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Do you understand what happened?


Randy McNally
Reply to @Matt Smith: We have a representative parliamentary democracy so why do we need a referendum




























Justin Gunther
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Let's make a deal with the Minister:

You actually teach the kids how to read, and we'll reconsider your bill based on available information the next time this finds its way into the news cycle.

Thank you for doing the minimum.


Bob Smith
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: I'll make you a deal. When the Covid vaccine comes out for society, I expect you to get your shot as a responsible member of society. If not, stay home and out of society. Thank you for that choice you should make.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Bob Smith: Have a nice day Bob.


David Amos
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Reply to @Bob Smith: Good luck trying to make me take a shot





























Justin Gunther
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Regardless of your opinion on vaccines, this bill was an unjustified overreach based on available information.


David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Justin Gunther: You seem confused


Michel Pelletier
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Reply to @David Amos: no you are


David Amos
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Reply to @Michel Pelletier: Dream on





























Phoenix Muranetz
Until there are proper studies done on the safety and effectiveness without interference from said pharmaceutical companies themselves - this Victory is an example of when people continue to stand by the rights of freedom.


Bob Smith
Reply to @Phoenix Muranetz: Remember this when the Covid vaccine comes out. You're free to stay home, out of society...


David Amos
Reply to @Bob Smith: Who are are you to suggest such things?


Randy McNally
Reply to @Bob Smith: Do we really have any reason to believe that there will be a COVID vaccine.





























George Smith
CBC you need to read your own News. This story has been decided. When that happens the out of date story shouldn't appear on the same page as the current up to date one that clarifies the situation. Simple to do. Why isn't it done?


David Amos
Reply to @George Smith: Go Figure


Rob Mason
Reply to @David Amos: Dennis is that you?


David Amos
Reply to @Rob Mason: I am exactly who i say i am More importantly do I know you?
































Chris Merriam
The voting public will remember what happened today.....laughing stock of the country.


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Chris Merriam: I don't think you actually understand the facts at hand.


David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Do you?































Bonnie Cox
I hope for the sake of the NAY sayers... they are not in my riding... TERRIBLE decision... let US vote on it...


David Amos
Reply to @Bonnie Cox: Why?




























Justin Gunther
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I don't understand. Based on prior reporting by our state broadcaster it sounded like a foregone conclusion the vote would go strongly the other way? But thank YOU Minister Cardy for having YOUR voice once again heard on the state broadcaster, acting like everyone who voted nay is your intellectual inferior.

We all appreciate everything YOU'RE doing, since this is apparently YOUR show.


Bonnie Cox
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: on this topic they ARE his intellectual inferior... damn petri dishes going to school with the children of responsible parents..


Justin Gunther
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Reply to @Bonnie Cox: I don't think you actually understand the relevant facts. I think you know what Dominic Card has told you. Have a nice day.


David Amos
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Reply to @Bonnie Cox: Wow are you related to Cardy?


Terry Tibbs
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: He's not acting...he proceeds as if he believes most people are his inferior. And that is why He never wins. And That is what he doesn't get. He never says for example; "I think" or "I believe' or "in my opinion" - He just spouts off as if he knows


Terry Tibbs
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Reply to @David Amos: Mother/ girlfriend? shrink?




























Jeff LeBlanc
Well that's democracy for you.


David Amos
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Kinda Sorta


Randy McNally
Reply to @David Amos: Like our silver tongued former pseudo - potus, GW Bush once proclaimed " This sure would be a lot easier if it was a dictatorship" Or something like that


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: A far wiser old Yankee PT Barnum used to proclaim "People want to see a circus so you give them a circus"

Methinks Higgy et al trust that I am enjoying playing my part in the ongoing circuses in Fat Fred City and Ottawa since I first ran for a seat in the 38th Parliament N'esy Pas?































David News
Sad day for the health and welfare of the kids. Remember this next time there is a breakout of measles and schools close and the government has to spend $ on health care that would not have been required.


Randy McNally
Reply to @David News: I thought pseudonyms were not allowed here.


Kat Burd
Reply to @Randy McNally: There is an impassible gulf between the rules and the reality here.


Justin Gunther
Content disabled
Reply to @Kat Burd: Careful Randy you can get banned for that.


Justin Gunther
Content disabled
Reply to @David News: Yes we're all terrified of the one person Measles outbreaks we've seen recently. Absolutely horrifying.


David News
Reply to @Justin Gunther: ah hmmmm


Jan Toffe
Reply to @David News: This is a fantastic day, parents can now decide for themselves how many vaccines their kids need instead of lobbyist controlled governments. There are to many Vacc now. Note that over 40% of our kids now have at least one chronic health condition, how much does dozens of injections have to do with this??


David Amos
Reply to @Kat Burd: and that is really your name


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: Thats a myth


Brahbra Concord
Reply to @David Amos: Stop trying to find peoples facebook account. It's getting creepy


David Amos
Reply to @Brahbra Concord: Methinks I already I told ya that I don't do Facebook However i do recall you suggesting that I find yours because you don't do Twitter like Higgy and I do N'esy Pas?


David News
Reply to @Jan Toffe: Jan, are these the same parents that decided it was not worth the money to get internet installed in their homes so that the kids could participate in the E Learning that was happening through out covid19?


Brahbra Concord
Reply to @David Amos: I never suggested you try to find me online. I have never even said the word twitter on this forum before. I find it unsettling that you think I did. Please stop being so creepy towards me


David Amos
Reply to @Brahbra Concord: Methinks everybody knows where to go to verify what you did state N'esy Pas?


Rob Mason
Reply to @Randy McNally: Reply to @David News: I thought pseudonyms were not allowed here. Says the guy using the name of a book of maps!


Jan Toffe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Horrifying? Why? No one died. But we have 1000's of fentylal overdoses, 2500 car crash deaths a year in Canada. many deaths from snow mobiling, boating, drowning etc. We dont ban cars.
Any ways I am not against the measles vaccine, I think we should all get it, but I am very much against Bill 11. It is just the first step to forced vaccination for all including you. They they just keep adding more and more vaccines to the list, there is another 100 in the pipe line right now. When is there too many?


Randy McNally
Reply to @Rob Mason: Alas... I was much too young and to weak to argue thus, it's been my handle since the beginning. Just call me map guy.





























Mack Leigh
Wow, looks like David Coon and his MLA's have sitting on the fence down to a science......... Absolutely pathetic.


David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Naw they were just playing politics for their benefit



Sue Powell
Reply to @Mack Leigh:


Sue Powell
Reply to @Sue Powell: what you call science is big pharma sponsored studies to continue making big profits. Do your own research. Independent anti-vaccines studies are never in mainstream media. Ever wondered why? Censorship.

John Grail
Reply to @Mack Leigh: They tried to propose alternative amendments and options. Why vote on a bill that means nothing and would get challenged (and likely lose) as a charter violation





























Randy McNally
They may not know it but this is a victory for the people, the constitution, and the charter of rights and freedoms. And this is why minority govt's are good for the people


Bob Smith
Reply to @Randy McNally: ...and if science and common sense had won the vote, you would have argued against minority gov't bills. I know how folks spin things...


Randy McNally
Reply to @Bob Smith: This bill had nothing to do with science


Randy McNally
Reply to @Randy McNally: Where's the double blind studies? Where's the control groups, the placebo groups , the trials? When it comes to Vaccines the public are the guinea pigs


G Rex
Reply to @Randy McNally: I tend to agree with you. Minority rights are a very important part of a "democracy". That being said, I also suspect (hope?) that there will be such a small number who exercise their right to opt out that it will have minimal effect on those who have to opt out for medical reasons. Of course it will have no effect on those who opt for the vaccine.


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir





























Bob Smith
The anti science crowd wins the day :(


Jos Allaire
Reply to @Bob Smith: And the money loses for once.


David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Mais Oui


Buddy Best
Reply to @Bob Smith: Even in a communist country you have choices. No so much here. Mandatory? Tax on red book value not purchase price!!!!!


Jan Toffe
Reply to @Bob Smith: In your opinion. Now start looking at the science yourself, the truth is somewhere in the middle, as usual.


John Grail
Reply to @Bob Smith: The pro-Charter freedoms on the Day.


John Grail
Reply to @John Grail: *won


 
























John Smith
Another win for anti-science. So much for my thoughts that the Greens might be better.


Dan Armitage
Reply to @John Smith: rights and anti science don't play together. Your more than welcomed to go get a shot but you sure as ???? aren't entitled to tell me what I have to do


David Amos
Reply to @Dan Armitage: I agree


Buddy Best
Reply to @John Smith: What next? Mandatory chip inserts? democratic and free? Not here if these laws keep forcing compliance on personal choice. It died this time but what does the future bring?


John Grail
Reply to @John Smith: All to authoritarian vaxxers have is ad hominem attacks and poisoning the well.


























Corrie Weatherfield aka BruceJack Speculator
not impressed with anyone's action


Randy McNally
Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Or lack thereof?


David Amos
Reply to @Randy McNally: Good question 






https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mandatory-vaccination-bill-11-notwithstanding-clause-1.5614659


MLAs vote to drop notwithstanding clause from mandatory vaccination bill

Contentious legislation seeks to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for school children


Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 16, 2020 5:58 PM AT



A committee of MLAs have voted to remove the notwithstanding clause from Education Minister Dominic Cardy's mandatory vaccination bill. (Gilbert Rowan/CBC)

A committee of MLAs has voted to remove the controversial notwithstanding clause from a bill on mandatory vaccinations.

Members of all parties, including the governing Progressive Conservatives, voted unanimously to strike the clause, which would have protected the proposed law from future constitutional challenges in court.

That could improve the odds that the bill will eventually pass, since some Liberal MLAs have said they could only vote yes to the legislation if the clause was removed.

The bill would eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions from the requirement that children be vaccinated if they attend public schools. It will take effect for the 2021-22 school year.

Victoria-La Vallée Liberal MLA Chuck Chiasson introduced the amendment to remove the clause after accusing Education Minister Dominic Cardy of moving too fast to take away people's rights without looking at other options such as education campaigns.


Liberal MLA Chuck Chiasson says use of the notwithstanding clause creates 'a slippery slope' and other alternatives should be pursued.

"Once the freedom is gone it's good for good, and if we're going to take away rights and freedoms, we better have tried every other alternative and we better have a darned good reason," Chiasson said.

"I fear that we're headed down a slippery slope that we don't need to head down at this time, because there are alternatives. I for one just won't be part of it."

Chiasson emphasized that he was speaking for himself and not for his party.

All Liberal MLAs are allowed a free vote on the legislation, and Premier Blaine Higgs has said all PC members, including cabinet ministers, can also vote their consciences.


PC MLA Bruce Northrup has already said he will vote against the legislation, while other Tories have said they will wait to see the final amended version of the bill before deciding.

The legislation would allow Public Heath officials to establish a list of required vaccinations. Children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not be allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021.

The goal is to immunize enough children to create herd immunity so that the small number of children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons will still be protected from an outbreak.

Controversial clause

Last fall, Premier Blaine Higgs said government lawyers had concluded the bill would not be constitutional unless it invoked the notwithstanding clause, which would exempt it from sections of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including those on freedom of religion.

But after Liberal objections, Cardy said he'd be willing to take it out to win more votes for the legislation. No one from the government spoke against Chiasson's amendment Tuesday.


Education Minister Dominic Cardy says the current exemptions are 'often abused.' (CBC)

Chiasson, the party's education critic, pointed out that last year, Dr. Noni MacDonald, a well-known Nova Scotia pediatrician, called mandatory vaccine laws "a simple solution to a complex problem."


She called for better education campaigns to persuade parents, something Chiasson said Cardy should try before he passes a bill infringing on rights.
"Why would we not try that before we went down the road of mandatory vaccinations?" he asked.
Cardy responded that the existing system already violates the rights of children who can't go to school because they have weakened immune systems and the risk of an infection is too great.

More vaccinations would create herd immunity that would make it safe for them, he said.
 
 
People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin says he's struggling on which way to vote. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin inched closer to a clear statement Tuesday on how he'll vote, saying he'll be "hard-pressed" to support something that in his view violates parental rights.

But he concluded his questions to Cardy without declaring what he'll do, saying he was "really struggling" with how to vote.


'This is a balancing of rights'

Cardy acknowledged Tuesday that it's still not possible to provide a clear picture of vaccination rates in schools. There is no breakdown of how many exemptions are religious, how many are philosophical and how many are for valid medical reasons.

But he said the existing exemptions are "often abused," with people claiming medical reasons when there are none or citing supposed religious prohibitions to vaccinations that don't exist.

He also admitted that parental rights would be limited by the bill but he said the education system already limits other rights when it prevents students from bringing weapons, or even peanut butter, to school.

"This is a balancing of rights," he said.

Tuesday's committee session adjourned without a final vote on the bill. Debate is expected to resume Wednesday afternoon.



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David Amos
Go Figure

"Last fall, Premier Blaine Higgs said government lawyers had concluded the bill would not be constitutional unless it invoked the notwithstanding clause, which would exempt it from sections of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including those on freedom of religion.

But after Liberal objections, Cardy said he'd be willing to take it out to win more votes for the legislation. No one from the government spoke against Chiasson's amendment Tuesday." 


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Not another case of the Higgs shuffle, or maybe a Higgs shuffle with a twist, the twist of ignoring the government lawyers (what would they know anyway?) setting the whole thing up for failure............
I do know 1 thing though, when politicians say things like "it's a balancing of rights" it most surely isn't by any stretch of anyone's imagination.











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Speaking out against Bill 11 at the New Brunswick Legislature!!!!

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/vaccination-bill-11-cardy-new-brunswick-1.5605162


Much-anticipated mandatory vaccination debate begins in N.B. legislature

Review of contentious Bill 11 extended into Wednesday

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 09, 2020 6:12 PM AT


The controversial Bill 11 seeks to eliminate philosophical and religious exemptions from the requirement for schoolchildren to be vaccinated. (Gilbert Rowan/CBC)


Education Minister Dominic Cardy has warned his fellow MLAs that the issue of mandatory vaccinations won't be going away.

Cardy made the comments as a committee of the legislature began a long-awaited consideration of Bill 11, his legislation to eliminate philosophical and religious exemptions from the requirement for schoolchildren.

"When faith in science and institutions is coming under more threat and pressure than at probably any other point in our lifetimes, this bill is a firewall to protect our schoolchildren," Cardy said.


"Because this won't be the end of the discussion. Vote yes or no on this bill, if there's a vaccine for COVID-19, how will we have that conversation? These are the problems we're all going to face as legislators. The question now is what we do about it."


Education Minister Dominic Cardy said Tuesday his bill is a 'firewall to protect our schoolchildren.' (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)


The committee's review of the bill is expected to continue Wednesday.

Bill 11 would eliminate all non-medical exemptions to the requirement for vaccinations, including those on religious and philosophical grounds.

An earlier version of Cardy's bill was introduced long before the COVID-19 pandemic, and the bill has no specific reference to the coronavirus, for which no vaccine is expected to exist until next year.

The legislation would apply to a list of vaccines established by Health Canada. Children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not be allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021.
The goal is to immunize enough children to create herd immunity so that the small number of children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons will still be protected from an outbreak.

The first version of the bill was harshly criticized by anti-vaccination activists who testified during three days of committee hearings last summer.

In the wake of those hearings, some MLAs from all four parties in the legislature said they were undecided whether to support the bill.

Fairness questioned

On Tuesday afternoon, Liberal MLA and education critic Chuck Chiasson questioned the logic behind some aspects of the bill, such as the fact it applies to children but not to adults working in schools.

"If you're a child and you're not vaccinated, you cannot attend school," he said. "If you're an adult and you're not vaccinated, you can attend school.

"To me it just doesn't sound like something that is — I could say — fair. It's not affording exactly the outcome that the minister is looking for."


Liberal education critic Chuck Chiasson said he was frustrated with the lack of information coming from the education minister.


He also said it was hard to decide on how to support the bill when Cardy, citing privacy rules, wouldn't provide a breakdown of how many exemptions are medical, how many are philosophical and how many are religious.


At one point Chiasson said he was frustrated with how long Cardy was taking to answer his questions.

"I don't need all this pomp and ceremony around each question that I ask," he said. "I find it kind of disturbing that I have to keep digging and digging just to get that straight answer."

Cardy explained that because of physical distancing requirements, he was relying on staff to help him answer questions via a digital device and that's why his replies were taking so long.

Notwithstanding clause

In his questions, Chiasson did not broach a key issue for the Liberal opposition: the bill's invocation of the notwithstanding clause from the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which would shield the bill from a constitutional challenge.

Both the Liberals and the Greens have said they will try to remove the clause.

At last summer's hearings on the first version of the bill, one national anti-vaccination organization threatened to challenge the constitutionality of the legislation if it passed.

Cardy responded with a new version of the bill last November citing the notwithstanding clause of the charter. That would exempt the bill from a charter challenge on a number of grounds, including sections that guarantee freedom of religion.

Premier Blaine Higgs is giving all his MLAs, including his cabinet ministers, a free vote on the bill. The Liberals are expected to vote in unison against the bill if the notwithstanding clause stays in but will be able to vote freely if it comes out.

The Greens and the People's Alliance have also raised concerns about the use of the notwithstanding clause.



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David Amos
I repeat Methinks Cardy's all knowing attitude is becoming more of burden for Higgy et al with each passing day N'esy Pas?



David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Lobbying by big pharma might make it more palatable though. $$$ talks






























john smith
if it wasnt for this bill i would almost back cardy but he has shown his plumage as a tyrant



Terry Tibbs
Reply to @john smith:
I *think* you are giving far too much credit to Mr Cardy's actions.







https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/vaccination-bill-11-new-brunswick-cardy-anderson-mason-1.5586973



PC ministers spar over vaccination bill, but debate unexpectedly delayed

Attorney General Andrea Anderson-Mason voiced discomfort with Education Minister Dominic Cardy's bill


Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: May 27, 2020 4:38 PM AT



Education Minister Dominic Cardy wants to use the notwithstanding clause to fend off court challenges to his mandatory vaccination bill. (CBC)

The long-awaited and potential decisive phase in New Brunswick's debate over mandatory vaccinations was abruptly put on hold Wednesday.

MLAs were poised to begin studying Education Minister Dominic Cardy's Bill 11, which would eliminate all non-medical exemptions to the requirement for vaccinations, including those on religious and philosophical grounds.

But the sitting of the legislative committee that was going to examine the bill was abruptly called off when Cardy had to attend a special meeting of the government's all-party committee on COVID-19 happening at the same time.


"It would be impossible to have proper debate on this bill without his presence, so committee was delayed until next Tuesday," said Caraquet Liberal MLA Isabelle Thériault.
Opposition MLAs on the committee hope to amend the bill in a way that could make or break its chances of passing.

Both the Liberals and the Greens will try to remove the bill's use of the notwithstanding clause from the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. By invoking the clause, the legislation is shielded from a constitutional challenge.

Attorney general voices concern

At the same time, two Progressive Conservative cabinet ministers continue to spar over the need for the legislation.

Attorney-General Andrea Anderson-Mason has repeatedly signalled she's not comfortable with the bill, and in a recent Facebook post implicitly rejected Cardy's description of its opponents.

"I was originally told that the only people who would oppose this bill would be people on the fringe," she said in a May 24 post. "That was incorrect."

Andrea Anderson-Mason MLA Fundy The Isles Saint John West
on Sunday
Thank you!! I asked a question and wow, you responded and you (for the most part) were respectful.
What I learned: I learned that the topic of mandatory vaccinations can be an emotional issue. People who support Bill 11 can be as assertive as those who oppose it.
The vast majority of people fall somewhere in the middle.
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She said that "being told by government what you can or cannot do with your body does not settle well."

Cardy said Tuesday he was not concerned with his PC cabinet colleague's comments.

"I think Andrea Anderson-Mason's comments have been pretty clear, and I think mine are as well, and I'm happy mine are backed by science and reason, and I'm happy to go forward on that basis," he said.


Andrea Anderson-Mason, minister of justice and attorney general, has signalled concern about the government telling people what they can or cannot do with their bodies. (Radio-Canada)

Cardy also repeated his criticisms of opponents of the bill, including protestors on the lawn of the legislature Tuesday who didn't practice physical distancing from each other.

He described them as people "who subscribe to a vague, weird Trumpian ideal of how the world works."

The unusual public spectacle of two ministers sparring over a piece of legislation would normally be untenable in the Westminster system of cabinet government.


But Higgs is allowing all his MLAs, including his ministers, a free vote on the bill.


"I don't relish the idea of two ministers duking it out in the public, but it is what it is," he said Tuesday. "They can each vote their own way."

Anderson-Mason did not respond to an interview request Wednesday.

Bill would come into effect fall 2021

Cardy's bill was introduced long before the COVID-19 pandemic and has no specific reference to the coronavirus, for which no vaccine is expected to exist until next year.

The bill would eliminate philosophical, religious and other non-medical exemptions from an existing requirement that all school children be vaccinated.

Children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not be allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021.


An earlier version of the bill was harshly criticized by anti-vaccination activists who testified during three days of committee hearings last summer.
In the wake of those hearings, some MLAs from all four parties in the legislature said they were undecided whether to support the bill.

One national anti-vaccination organization threatened to challenge the constitutionality of the legislation if it passed.

Cardy responded with a new version of the bill last November that includes the use of the notwithstanding clause of the Charter.

That would exempt the bill from a Charter challenge on a number of grounds, including sections that guarantee freedom of religion.


People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said he's concerned for government overreach with the current makeup of the bill. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers said this week his party remains "concerned" about the preemptive suspension of Charter rights and will try to amend the bill to take out the clause. That will make it more likely that some Liberal MLAs can vote for it.


Cardy said again this week he is willing to remove the notwithstanding clause."For me, it wouldn't be a compromise," he said. "I have no issues with the notwithstanding clause not being included. I felt the bill would stand without it and I'm very happy to support it without it."

Vickers said the debate is really about "the best way to get the most number of people vaccinated" and said Liberal MLAs would also be able to vote freely on the bill.

Green Party Leader David Coon said his party will also introduce amendments, including one to remove the notwithstanding clause. Another would give chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell the power to decide when the bill takes effect.
 

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers said his party will try amend the bill to remove the notwithstanding clause. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Meanwhile, People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin sounded a sceptical note about the legislation.
He said whether the notwithstanding clause stays in the bill or comes out, it's use is an acknowledgement the legislation is not constitutional.

"For me the real question is more about people's right to choose for themselves," he said, questioning whether school staff, health-care workers and eventually other government employees will also be subjected to similar laws.

"Where do we stop?" he said. "It's about government overreach to me."

Cardy said he's optimistic that there will be enough MLAs from all parties who see the merits of the bill, especially with COVID-19 highlighting the importance of vaccinations.

About the Author


Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 


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David Amos
Methinks whereas the Minister of Health is a lawyer I bet some folks would like to know where Teddy Baby stands on the need for Cardy's vaccination legislation and his latest scheme about the notwithstanding clause N'esy Pas? 












Lou Bell
Guess some politicians have less of a concern for the health of their constituents than others ! Not really surprising . Money trumps doing the right thing . Move on Ms. Anderson- Mason , you've had your 15 minutes of infamy .


David Amos 
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you are losing your faith in Higgy et al N'esy Pas?


Mary MacKenzie 
Reply to @David Amos: If you're going to use French, perhaps type it correctly.













David Amos

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Surprise Surprise Surprise The legislature just adjourned til June 9th 














john smith
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treating healthy people as lepars is really quite rich


Aibreann Carey 
Content disabled
Reply to @john smith:
Putting children at risk of serious consequences from preventable disease is unconscionable.


David Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @john smith: I agree


Aibreann Carey 
Content disabled
Reply to @john smith:
No it isn’t a “false argument”.
Vaccination eradicated polio in India, where the population was “healthy” until they weren’t.


john smith 
Content disabled
Reply to @Aibreann Carey: bill gates is banned from india for the injuries he caused


Aibreann Carey 
Content disabled
Reply to @john smith:
No he is not.
No he did not.

Fact checked. Correct.


john smith 
Content disabled
Reply to @Aibreann Carey: 496 000+ that are paralysed between 2000 and 2017 would say different likelwise the folks in ukraine and many parts of africa would join the chorus


Aibreann Carey 
Content disabled
Reply to @john smith:
That is a proven inaccuracy, favoured and promoted by antivaxxers who oppose eradication of polio for some reason that remains known only to them.


john smith 
Content disabled
Reply to @Aibreann Carey: hey it syour soul man i would never stop you from injecting what you want in your body but to force it into mine well thats a special kinda mindset their


john smith
Content disabled
Reply to @john smith: you might want to find a more reputable place then snopes to get your facts bud


Aibreann Carey 
Content disabled
Reply to @john smith:
Do what you like.
Choosing to become a public health menace has consequences. Not punishment: consequences. Up to you.


Aibreann Carey 
Content disabled
Reply to @john smith:
You’re talking to yourself.

You might want to fact check for yourself, accurate and reliable sources not found on YouRube or antivax rubbish.

Bud.


Aibreann Carey 
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No it could not. There is no parallel whatsoever.


john smith 
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Reply to @Aibreann Carey: source materials not accurate enough lol ok roger


Aibreann Carey 
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Say what?


Tom Simmons 
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John Grail
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Reply to @Aibreann Carey: Nice retort. No actual evidence, just shouting "not true"


Aibreann Carey 
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“Not true” is an accurate description of what is false.


David Amos 
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Reply to @john smith: Methinks it should not matter what Kevin Vickers says about actions within the legislature until he gets elected and is sworn in. However folks certainly should ask him why i sued the Queen in 2015 because of his actions against me since 2004 N'esy Pas?



https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/covid-19-vaccine-public-health-1.5627376



Potential COVID-19 vaccine has re-energized anti-vaccination groups, health experts warn

Misinformation out in full force, and health officials must catch up, scientists say

 
Nicole Ireland· CBC News· Posted: Jun 29, 2020 4:00 AM ET


A scientist works in a laboratory in Oxford, U.K., where a potential vaccine against COVID-19 is going through early phases of clinical trials. (Steve Parsons/Pool via Reuters)


As Canadians yearn for an end to the COVID-19 pandemic and a time they can once again hug their elderly loved ones or gather in large groups without fear of infection, many are pinning their hopes on unprecedented global efforts to develop a vaccine against the virus.

But even though most infectious disease experts say the earliest possible timeframe would be at least a year or two away, anti-vaccination groups are already well into online and social media campaigns stoking doubts about the safety — and even questioning the necessity — of a coronavirus vaccine.

"I just am astonished at how early the anti-vaccine narrative has started," Dr. Natasha Crowcroft, a vaccine expert at the University of Toronto's Dalla Lana School of Public Health, said in an interview with CBC's The Dose health podcast.


"We are really facing a major, major challenge," Crowcroft told podcast host Dr. Brian Goldman.

"And unless our public health leaders can generate a lot of trust, it's going to be very, very difficult."

That's because anti-vaccination groups have become extremely savvy communicators and "seem to be much better" than public health experts at reaching out to a variety of people with different ideologies — from those who distrust pharmaceutical companies to those protesting public health lockdowns aimed at curbing the spread of coronavirus, Crowcroft said.


The global focus on developing a coronavirus vaccine is unlike anything ever seen before, says Dr. Natasha Crowcroft, a vaccine expert at the University of Toronto's Dalla Lana School of Public Health and a senior technical adviser with the World Health Organization. (Claude Martel)


Anti-vaccination groups in both Canada and the U.S. are positioning themselves as advocates for what they call "personal freedoms" and "medical choice" in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic — posting content online and on social media that not only targets vaccination, but also protests the closure of businesses, physical distancing requirements and the wearing of masks. 

Vaccine Choice Canada — one of the most high-profile anti-vaccination organizations in this country, announced in a letter posted to its website on May 13 that it was "launching legal action against the Government of Canada and others for violating our rights and freedoms during the COVID-19 outbreak."

In a June 18 episode of Digi-Debates posted on YouTube, the president of Vaccine Choice Canada, Ted Kuntz, claimed that COVID-19 was no more deadly than influenza — and argued that a vaccine was unnecessary.


WATCH | Need to address questions and doubts about vaccines, epidemiologist says
 

Epidemiologist Dr. Christopher Labos says the vast majority of a population needs to be vaccinated in order to develop herd immunity. 1:58

But infectious disease and public health experts widely agree that COVID-19 is far more lethal than the flu. According to the Public Health Agency of Canada, more than 8,500 deaths in Canada have been related to COVID-19. Based on the agency's most recent available data, deaths from influenza were far fewer. The 2018-19 flu season claimed the lives of 224 people, while just over 300 people died of influenza in the 2017-18 season.

CBC reached out to Vaccine Choice Canada via its media relations email address and also sent a Facebook message to Kuntz inviting him to comment further but did not receive a response before deadline. 

LISTEN | How close are we to an effective vaccine for COVID-19?


The Dose
I want life to get back to normal. How close are we to an effective vaccine against COVID-19?
As we continue to grapple with the COVID-19 pandemic, most of us are anxious to return to normal life, when we can hug our elderly parents or grandparents and once again gather in large groups. Many experts say that can't happen safely until a coronavirus vaccine is developed. In this unprecedented time, researchers around the world are working toward that goal, but it has to be done safely and follow a careful scientific process. Dr. Natasha Crowcroft, a vaccine expert at the the Dalla Lana School of Public Health at the University of Toronto, joins host Dr. Brian Goldman to help explain how close we are to an effective vaccine against COVID-19, the barriers we must overcome to get there, and what we need to do in the meantime. 20:40


Part of the strategy used by anti-vaccination groups has been to take legitimate cautions by some well-recognized physicians in the U.S. that the quest to find a coronavirus vaccine must not be rushed and that it must go through all of the necessary steps to ensure it is safe and effective — and then misrepresent those comments as arguments against a vaccine, said Jonathan Jarry, a science communicator in the Office for Science and Society at McGill University in Montreal, which has a mandate to debunk misinformation for the public.

"We have the beginnings of a perfect storm on our hands [to fuel vaccine misinformation]," Jarry said.

In the midst of a worldwide pandemic and an unprecedented effort to develop a vaccine as quickly as possible, many people have questions and anxiety about the process, he said.

At the same time, Jarry said, the anti-vaccination movement is "seemingly re-energized and ... pushing a lot of misinformation and disinformation and lies and fuelling that anxiety."



Seniors have been particularly hard hit by the coronavirus, with many deaths occurring in long-term care homes. Physical distancing measures, like this see-through barrier at a B.C. retirement home, is an effort to keep seniors safe during the pandemic. Some infectious disease experts say it may not be fully safe to hug elderly loved ones until an effective vaccine or treatment is developed. (Maggie MacPherson/CBC)


To combat that, both Crowcroft and Jarry agree, it's essential that public health officials, physicians and community leaders talk openly and transparently with Canadians about the vaccine development process and directly answer their questions and concerns — and they need to start now.

"There's a small sliver of the population that is ferociously anti-vaccination. And it's very difficult to reason with these people," Jarry said.

"But there's a larger segment of the population that is vaccine-hesitant. And that is where our efforts need to be invested."

'The current situation is so different'

One of the key concerns that needs to be directly addressed is how a coronavirus vaccine can be developed more quickly than any vaccine before it and still be safe, Jarry said.

The answer, Crowcroft said, is that "the current situation is so different that it is possible to get through the development steps faster without cutting any corners that might compromise safety."
It normally takes "years and years and years" to develop a vaccine, she said. "I mean 10 years would not be unusual."

A big part of the reason for that, Crowcroft said, is that scientists often come up with a vaccine candidate but have a difficult time getting funding to move it to the next phase of clinical trials, because every trial stage is expensive and pharmaceutical companies are hesitant to risk spending enormous amounts of money on a product that could fail at the next stage. Plus, there's often no guarantee there will be a market for the vaccine even if it does work.
But in the midst of a pandemic, the pharmaceutical industry is confident that the demand for a vaccine exists, she said. In addition, governments around the world are providing funding for vaccine development, which removes the potential for a huge financial loss if a company invests in a vaccine candidate that doesn't succeed in the end.

"Governments are helping to speed things up by funding the trials so they can go on in parallel and/or the gaps between each step are shorter, without the long delays for decision-making about whether the company wants to take the [financial] risk of moving forward," said Crowcroft, who was recently appointed a senior technical adviser for the World Health Organization's measles, mumps and rubella program.

Because of that, there are more than 100 different vaccine candidates in various phases of research at the same time around the world, increasing the odds that at least one, possibly more, will prove to be safe and effective, she said.

WATCH | States brace for impact of COVID-19 surge in U.S.:



Some parts of the U.S. are bracing for the impact on hospitals as cases of COVID-19 surge amid a lack of political will to respond. 2:01


Because of advances in genetic sequencing, scientists' ability to learn about a new virus is also more advanced than it has ever been in the past, giving researchers a head start in figuring out what part of it to target with a vaccine.

"Nothing in the history of humankind has ever been seen like this before," Crowcroft said.

Finally, she said, amid all the hype as companies put out news releases boasting about their progress in vaccine development,  it's "important to remember that the press release does not determine whether a vaccine will eventually be used."

It's up to each country's regulatory agency, such as Health Canada, to determine whether a vaccine can be used and be independent of any industry influence.

"Safety cannot be compromised," Crowcroft said. "Health Canada will see to that. It is their statutory responsibility."

In an emailed statement to CBC, Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada's chief public health officer, said that before any vaccine is approved for use in this country, "Health Canada conducts rigorous scientific reviews and testing of the vaccine to assess the quality, safety and effectiveness."

"Once a vaccine is in use, health authorities continue to monitor the vaccine to ensure ongoing highest standards of safety."

'Empathy' and 'building trust'

But if these kinds of questions about safety, as well as other concerns, aren't dealt with directly by public health officials — or if the public doesn't trust them —  anti-vaccination voices will fill that void with misinformation, Jarry warns.

The most effective way to talk to people who are vaccine-hesitant, he said, "all boils down to empathy and to listening and to building trust."

It's important not to criticize people for expressing concerns, even if they are based on misinformation that has long ago been debunked, he said.

"If we ignore them because we don't have time or if we ignore them because we think they're silly, the anti-vaccination movement will end up polarizing the vaccine-hesitant segment of the population against vaccination," Jarry said. "And then vaccine uptake is going to keep going down."
We've already seen the toll that vaccine refusal can take with the re-emergence of measles, he said.
Crowcroft estimates that for a coronavirus vaccine to be effective at protecting the population, between 60 and 70 per cent of people need to be immunized.

"I'm not sure we're doing everything we can yet to prepare," she said. "We really do need to start, you know, having those discussions with communities and building relationships so that they do trust in their [public health] leaders."



An ad from the Ontario Medical Association aimed at combating overall vaccine hesitancy is pictured in a bus shelter. (Paul Smith/CBC)


In her statement to CBC, Tam said she recognized that "vaccine hesitancy is still very much an ongoing issue within Canada and worldwide."

"In collaboration with my provincial and territorial colleagues and other stakeholders, foundational work has already begun to prepare for the possible release of a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine in Canada, if and when it becomes available," Tam said.
That work, she said, would include "developing strategies and resources to inform and educate to build vaccine confidence as well as combat stigma, misinformation and fear around the release of a new vaccine."

The Public Health Agency of Canada, which Tam heads, said in a separate statement to CBC that "efforts to inform and educate to build vaccine confidence are part of the agency's regular business" and that it would use similar information and social media campaigns "when a new COVID-19 vaccine is released to ensure that Canadians have the proper information to inform their choice to receive the vaccine when available."

About the Author

Nicole Ireland
Nicole Ireland is a CBC News journalist with a special interest in health and social justice stories. Based in Toronto, she has lived and worked in Thunder Bay, Ont.; Iqaluit, Nunavut; and Beirut, Lebanon.



3109 Comments 







Michael G. L. Geraldson
I'd trust my healthcare professional's opinion a lot more than some anonymous quack on the internet, but hey that's just me. 








 
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John Grail 
Reply to @Sandy Gillis: If you truly cared about weighing risks, you would be urging everyone to end animal exploitation.
 
 
Tina Falco 
Reply to @Sandy Gillis:
Here's the information on HPV

Human Papillomavirus (HPV) Vaccines as an Option for Preventing Cervical Malignancies: (How) Effective and Safe?

Lucija Tomljenovic 1, Jean Pierre Spinosa, Christopher A Shaw

John is doing a much better job than I ever could, no need to have me contribute.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Neil Gregory 
These anti-vaccination groups present a clear and present danger to the health and lives of Canadians. In spite of what the Charter of rights and freedoms says about free speech, it should be a crime to people at risk be spreading false and misleading information.
 
 
 
 
 
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John Grail 
Reply to @Brian Cohen: You know, animal flesh. The stuff you deny having health consequences despite centuries of observational evidence proving the contrary.
 
 
John Grail  
Reply to @Brian Cohen: A chemical with harmful consequences is toxic even in low doses. Especially over prolonged periods of time. Not sure what part of basic biology you fail to grasp.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Victor Neale 
I am baffled by the attitudes of anti-vaxxers. They seem to have zero sense of history. If they grew up in the middle of the 20th century, as I did, they might have some clue of the damage done and fear caused by diseases like polio and even measles.

If they had grown up in the 1920's and 1930's they'd have a grasp of the havoc wreaked on families by diphtheria and whooping cough and other deadly child-killing diseases people barely remember today.

Before you anti-vaxxers start preaching about the "evils" of medical science, you would do well to spend a little time in a library and learn something about the topic. Especially the history of vaccine development in the 20th century. Because you sure don't seem very well informed now.
 
 
 
 
 
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John Grail
Reply to @Anne Lacourt: We could save WAY more lives if we cut out animal exploitation. The animals' lives themselves, the animals' lives used to create and develop vaccines, and the lives saved by not contributing to the main cause of pandemic illnesses. Plus all the lifestyle ailments resultant from unnecessary flesh consumption.
 
 
John Grail 
Reply to @Alan Douglas: Speaking of illogical ploys, you do realize there are biological foreign agents and toxins in those package inserts, right?




 https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/exemptions/new-brunswick-mandates-take-action/





New Brunswick Mandates – Take Action

By Vaccine Choice Canada

Bill 11 An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization – defeated June 18, 2020

Update June 27, 2020
Update June 26, 2020
Bill forcing parents to vaccinate their kids to attend school fails to pass in Canadian province– The bill would have removed religious and philosophical exemptions as reasons a parent could opt their children out of vaccination programs. – LifeSiteNews.com
Update June 24, 2020
Green MLAs hit with ‘social media storm’ following vaccination bill abstentions– Controversial Bill 11 defeated 22-20 after 3 Green MLAs abstain from vote
Chris Harrigan’s YouTube Channel has videos from the Bill 11 protests in Fredericton, NB.
Update June 23, 2020
‘Their views are unacceptable in 2020,’ N.B. education minister says of anti-vaxxers– CTV News – “He says there won’t be a second bill, saying his colleagues have spoken, but it won’t stop him from confronting the issue, on social media or otherwise.”
Dominic Cardy’s behaviour is reprehensible– Kevin Vickers, Leader of the New Brunswick Liberal Party
Green party abdicates responsibility on Bill 11 vote– New Brunswick Liberal Party
Update June 18, 2020
Bill 11 was defeated.
Mandatory vaccination bill defeated 22-20– Bill sought to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for schoolchildren – CBC
New Brunswick’s mandatory vaccination bill voted down– Global News – “On Thursday, the motion was defeated by a close margin of 22-19.”
Greens abstain from Bill-11 vote– Green Party of New Brunswick
Update June 17, 2020
Mandatory vaccination bill ready for final legislature vote– Bill seeks to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for school children
**UPDATE**  Bill 11 has been passed by the Committee – vote in the full house *possible* tomorrow June 18, 2020.
STATUS OF BILL HERE (including link to amendment).
View CBC Twitter thread of the Committee here.
MLAs vote to drop notwithstanding clause from mandatory vaccination bill– Contentious legislation seeks to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for school children – CBC – “A committee of MLAs has voted to remove the controversial notwithstanding clause from a bill on mandatory vaccinations.”
Update June 13, 2020
Fredericton Protest 2 against Bill 11 June 9th 2020– 44:25 video
More videos see Chris Harrigan’s YouTube Page.
Update June 9, 2020
Much-anticipated mandatory vaccination debate begins in N.B. legislature– Review of contentious Bill 11 extended into Wednesday – CBC
The Third Session of the 59th Legislative Assembly stands adjourned until Tuesday, June 9, 2020.
NB Legislative Assembly – WITHDRAW BILL 11 with or without the “notwithstanding” clause– for New Brunswick citizens – Change.org
Say No To Bill 11– New Brunswick Residents have their say!  3:26 video
Update May 27, 2020
PC ministers spar over vaccination bill, but debate unexpectedly delayed– Attorney General Andrea Anderson-Mason voiced discomfort with Education Minister Dominic Cardy’s bill – “‘It would be impossible to have proper debate on this bill without his presence, so committee was delayed until next Tuesday [June 2],’ said Caraquet Liberal MLA Isabelle Thériault.”
Update May 26, 2020
Bill 11  was referred to the Standing Committee on Economic Policy which sat May 26 and will also sit on May 27.  Third reading for could potentially be held on May 28.  For Legislative Calendar Click Here.  Bill 11 status here   Watch the legislature online here https://www.gnb.ca/legis/index-e.asp  Click Webcasts.**
Mandatory vaccinations among issues for debate in N.B. legislature– Global News
Update May 23, 2020
Ted Kuntz’s Appeal to New Brunswick MLAs re: Bill 11 Vote– Sent via Courier – delivered to the NB Legislature May 22, 2020
Update May 13, 2020
Cardy hopes to pass contentious vaccination bill by summer– Education minister optimistic COVID-19 pandemic raised awareness of importance of vaccines – CBC
Update May 12, 2020
New Brunswick Bill 11 Letter – Denial of Equal Access to Public Education– Copy and personalize for your MLA
Update May 6, 2020
On May 5, 2020 – this was to be the day that the NB legislature would return to sit for one day – New Brunswick residents held a protest in front of the legislature. 
The next day scheduled for the legislature to sit is May 26, 2020
Update April 2020
To Members of the New Brunswick Legislature re: Bill 11 From Ted Kuntz– Package was sent via Canada Post on April 14, 2020
Update March 11, 2020
Bill 11 passed 2nd reading in the New Brunswick Legislature on March 11, 2020.  You can view the video here– start at 4:00:00.   The Bill was referred to the Standing Committee on Economic Policy.   For Legislative Calendar Click Here.  Bill 11 status here   Watch the legislature online here https://www.gnb.ca/legis/index-e.asp  Click Webcasts.**
New Brunswick Mandatory Vaccine Bill 39 Legal Opinion– A Threat to Liberty and Bodily Autonomy: Compelling Individuals to Choose Between Vaccinations and Public Education Submissions on Bill 39: An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization Brief to the Standing Committee on Law Amendments
Consent or Coercion? – Prepared for Members of NB Legislature (pdf)
Update December 19, 2019
Vaccination is Not Immunization – Why Bill 11 Should Be Defeated– letter to David Coon, MLA and Leader of the New Brunswick Green Party from Ted Kuntz
Update December 11, 2019
A Parent’s Appeal to New Brunswick MLAs on Bill 11– e-mail was sent to individual New Brunswick MLAs by VCC on December 10, 2019.
Update December 9, 2019
Dear NB School Superintendents, Trustees, Principals and Teachers re: Bill 11– includes MS Word document to personalize
Update November 28, 2019
Update and Call to Action to members on New Brunswick Bill 11An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization and the NS & PEI Call for Mandates
Update November 27, 2019
Mandatory-vaccination bill could be in trouble over suspension of charter rights– Bill would eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions from current public school vaccine policy – “A bill to toughen mandatory-vaccination rules for schoolchildren looked to be in trouble on Wednesday as more MLAs spoke out against its use of the Constitution’s notwithstanding clause to forestall legal challenges. Three People’s Alliance MLAs said they may not support the bill because of the inclusion of the clause, which leader Kris Austin called a “nuclear button” that should be used only rarely. The bill introduced last week by Education Minister Dominic Cardy would eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions to the policy of forcing children attending public schools to be vaccinated. Including the notwithstanding clause would allow the law to override 10 sections of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including those that guarantee freedom of religion. ‘I think the inclusion of that is an admission that they’re violating somebody’s rights,’ Alliance MLA Rick DeSaulniers told reporters. ‘It’s really quite simple. It’s obvious.’ … Premier Blaine Higgs confirmed DeSaulniers’s analysis when he told reporters that government lawyers concluded the bill would violate charter rights and would be struck down if it didn’t include the notwithstanding clause. ‘It’s something I would have preferred not to utilize,’ Higgs said, but the legal advice was ‘that we’d be challenged and ultimately lose’ in court without the clause.”
Update November 25, 2019
2nd reading is possible any time (Bill 11 is on the order paper, but it is up to the government when second reading is).   You can watch online here https://www.gnb.ca/legis/index-e.asp   Click Webcasts.
Update November 22, 2019
Bill 11 First Reading – An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization
Text of BILL 11 – An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization
New Brunswick uses notwithstanding clause in 2nd bid to pass vaccination bill– Move would ward off court challenges to controversial mandatory immunization legislation – “New Brunswick’s education minister is making rare use of the Canadian Constitution’s notwithstanding clause to ensure his new legislation on mandatory vaccinations won’t be overturned by court challenges. Dominic Cardy introduced the bill, his second attempt to eliminate non-medical exemptions to vaccination rules, in the legislature on Friday morning. Section 4 of the bill says the legislation is “declared to operate notwithstanding” 10 provisions of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. That means the bill can’t be struck down by the courts even if it contravenes those sections of the charter. Among those sections are provisions that protect freedom of religion and equal rights regardless of religion.”
Update November 20, 2019
First Report of the Standing Committee on Law Amendments Third Session 59th Legislative Assembly of the Province of New Brunswick November 20, 2019 (pdf) – “The report is the result of your Committee’s deliberations on Bill 39, An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization.”
Next vaccination bill won’t back down from dropping non-medical exemptions, Cardy says– Premier Blaine Higgs hinted Tuesday non-medical exemptions could be considered – “Education Minister Dominic Cardy says a revised bill on mandatory vaccinations for schoolchildren won’t be a retreat from his goal of eliminating non-medical exemptions. Cardy said Wednesday the legislation should be introduced by the end of next week and will still put an end to the ability of parents to exempt their children from vaccinations on religious and philosophical grounds.”
Update October 25, 2019
New Brunswick throne speech will delay mandatory vaccination bill– A new session of the legislature opens in November, which means the bill will die on the order paper
Update October 1, 2019
Transcripts of the New Brunswick Standing Committee on Law Amendments meetings.
August 27, 2019 (pdf)
August 28, 2019 (pdf)
August 29, 2019 (pdf)
Update September 8, 2019
New Brunswick Mandatory Vaccine Bill 39 Legal Opinion– A Threat to Liberty and Bodily Autonomy: Compelling Individuals to Choose Between Vaccinations and Public Education Submissions on Bill 39: An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization Brief to the Standing Committee on Law Amendments
The Standing Committee on Law Amendments met in the Legislative Council Chamber August 27-29, 2019
Audio Archive – Standing Committee on Law Amendments – Tuesday August 27, 2019  Length 6:36:17
https://www1.gnb.ca/legis/webcasts/archive/view-e.asp?event=130&lang=en
  • Hon. Dominic Cardy
  • Dr. Serge Melanson
  • Dr. Bob Sears
  • Dr. Meryl Nass
  • Dr. Dena Churchill
  • Dr. James Lyons-Weiler
  • James Kitchen
  • Dr. Jennifer Russell, Chief Medical Officer of Health, New Brunswick
Audio Archive – Standing Committee on Law Amendments – August 28, 2019  Length 6:41:51
https://www1.gnb.ca/legis/webcasts/archive/view-e.asp?event=131&lang=en
  • Monica St-Amand
  • Vaccine Choice Canada – Ted Kuntz, Vice-President
  • Andrew Mader and Ethan Mader
  • International Advocates Against Mandates – Terra-Lynn Coggan, Founder and ambassador
  • Office of the Child, Youth and Seniors’ Advocate – Norman Bossé, Q.C. Child, Youth and Seniors’ Advocate
  • Nicole Ouellette
  • Diane Doucet
  • Andy Clark
  • Dr. Michelle Greason, Ph.D, RSW / Ph.D., TSI
  • Stephanie Mallet
  • Shannon Mosher
  • Kenneth Neilson
Audio Archive – Standing Committee on Law Amendments – August 29, 2019 Length 5:43:58
https://www1.gnb.ca/legis/webcasts/archive/view-e.asp?event=132&lang=en
  • Lily Smallwood
  • Meagan Eskritt
  • Brett Jackson, B.Sc., Pharm and Paul Blanchard, Executive Director, New Brunswick Pharmacists’ Association
  • Melissa Richard
  • Elizabeth Kramer
  • Alex Dingwall
  • John Hansen
  • Kelli Urquhart
  • Jean-Sebastien Theriault
  • Alicia Szezendor
Update September 2, 2019
VCC Advocates for Medical Freedom in New Brunswick– Includes audio and text of Ted Kuntz’s presentation to the Committee.
Bill 39 Dialogue presented by Concerned Citizens of New Brunswick August 27th 2019– 2 hour video including Dr. Robert Sears, Dr. Meryl Nass, James Lyons-Weiler, PhD., James Kitchen and Dr. Dena Churchill DC
Nova Scotia Alternative Autism Awareness created YouTube audio recordings from the New Brunswick Bill 39 Mandatory Vaccine Committee Hearing speakers
Why are legislatures imposing vaccine mandates now? My testimony to the New Brunswick, Canada legislature on August 27, 2019– Meryl Nass MD
Update August 12, 2019– VCC’s July 25 letter and package to Norman Bossé, Q.C., New Brunswick Child and Youth Advocate
July 29, 2019 – VCC’s June/July 2019 V-Bulletin– includes segment on New Brunswick Education Minister justifies plan to ban children from school
Update July 22, 2019 – New Resources are available below, including an MLA package – Click here.
New Brunswick Bill 39– An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization
Information on how to make a submission or appear before the Standing Committee August 27-29:
Standing Committee on Law Amendments
Notice of Public Hearings and Call for Briefs
An Act Respecting
Proof of Immunization (Bill 39)
The Standing Committee on Law Amendments, an all-party committee of the Legislative Assembly, is seeking public input on Bill 39, An Act Respecting Proof of Immunization.
The purpose of Bill 39 is to remove non-medical exemptions from the mandatory immunization requirements for public school and licensed early learning and child care admissions. The Bill requires students attending public schools and children in licensed early learning and child care facilities to provide either proof of immunization or a medical exemption on a form signed by a medical professional.
The Committee seeks your input through public hearings with respect to the issues raised by Bill 39. The public hearings will be held in the Legislative Council Chamber of the Legislative Assembly building in Fredericton, New Brunswick.
Individuals or organizations from the legal or medical profession are invited to appear on August 27. Individuals or organizations representing parent groups or the teaching profession are invited to appear on August 28. All others are invited to appear on August 29.
If you wish to appear on Bill 39, please notify the Office of the Clerk of the Legislative Assembly  by phone [(506) 453-2506] or email by August 7, 2019. Those not wishing to appear are invited to submit a written brief by email by September 6, 2019.
July 11, 2019 – New Brunswickers invited to comment on two legislative proposals – News Release– Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick
On June 7, 2019 the New Brunswick Legislature passed the First Reading of Act Respecting Proof of Immunization, which “would remove non-medical exemptions from the mandatory immunization requirements for public school and licensed early learning and child care admissions. The amendments are to the Education Act and the Public Health Act.”
Press Release from the New Brunswick government.
CBC – New Brunswick moves toward mandatory immunization for students– Legislative amendments introduced Friday would remove all non-medical exemptions
June 11, 2019– Second Reading did not pass – bill was debated and referred to Standing Committee on Law Amendments – view archived webcast here (see 1:03:30 to 1:07:00 and again at 1:15:00)
Resources, letter ideas, MLA contact information below.
Dear New Brunswick Parents and Residents,
Thank you for standing strong and being warriors in the battle to protect our rights and freedoms. As all of you are aware, our right to parental decision-making, therapeutic choice, informed consent, and bodily sovereignty are all being threatened by the intention of the current New Brunswick government to “remove non-medical exemptions from the mandatory immunization requirements for public school and licensed early learning and child care admissions. The amendments are to the Education Act and the Public Health Act.”
This is Not A Medical Issue
This is a critical time in the evolution of our society. The for-profit medical industry and corporate controlled media would have you believe that we face a dire threat of deadly infectious diseases unless each and every one of our children are fully vaccinated. This is not true. This fear mongering is a distortion of the risk. There is no medical justification for imposing vaccine mandates. And the risk of vaccine injury is completely ignored by our medical industry and governments.
Whether you are a parent who has confidence in the vaccine paradigm, or one who is questioning the claims of ‘safety and effectiveness’, what we all can agree on is that, as citizens of a free country and as parents, we ought to have the right to choose. Vaccines have known risks, including death. Where there is risk, there must be choice.
These efforts to impose medical decisions upon individuals and families is not isolated to New Brunswick. In fact, there is a global movement that is well-funded and well organized by the medical industry to deprive citizens around the world of their right to choose. Right now, there are protests in many countries – Italy, Poland, Australia, United States and India demanding protection of our right to choose and bodily sovereignty.
This is a Civil Rights Issue
This is not a medical issue. This is a civil rights issue. This is the largest and most important civil rights issue since the civil rights movement in the United States in the 1960’s, and the movement to give women the right to vote. The impact of this civil rights movement affects every human on the planet. The medical industry is actively committed to removing our right to say ‘no’ to unwanted medical interventions that carry risk. This, by an industry that carries no legal liability for the harm, injuries and deaths caused by their products.
Unfortunately, our politicians are acting in ways that are eroding our rights rather than protecting them from greedy and morally corrupt corporations. And our mainstream and social media have been fully captured by the corporate agenda and financing and can no longer be trusted to tell us the truth. This is why a movement of parents is so critical.
Educate and Insist
With this letter are a number of documents to assist you to take a stand. Some of documents we encourage you to print and deliver personally to your MLA. We will start with an education strategy. We will demand that our MLAs support our right to informed consent, therapeutic choice, parental rights and bodily sovereignty. We will let them know, in very clear language, that if he or she does not stand behind our right to choose, that we will do all we can to have them removed from office.
Civil Disobedience May be Needed
We also need to be prepared to exercise non-violent civil disobedience. Whenever we go along with a law or requirement that is legally and morally wrong, we give validity to that law or requirement. Our greatest power is in not going along with what is wrong.
Civil disobedience becomes a sacred duty
when the state becomes lawless or corrupt.
– Mahatma Gandhi
We appreciate that in the short-term this may create discomfort and chaos. However, we need to refuse to go along with dictates and demands that are illegal and immoral. Ontario parents have figured out after two years of ‘education sessions’, forced affidavits, and school suspensions that they must not go along. Parents are now refusing to attend education sessions, sign affidavits, and are continuing to send their children to school even when they have received a notice of suspension.
This is a time to stand up, be brave and claim our power as parents. We need to ensure the bullying tactics of the for-profit medical industry do not succeed. Don’t count on our politicians or media to fight this battle for us. Each of us must be willing to step up and say – ‘I do not consent’. You are the one you’ve been waiting for.
Thank you for your courage and your leadership.
Sincerely,
Vaccine Choice Canada
Vaccine Action Ideas
  1. Arrange to meet with your MLA in person. Bring a friend to support you.
  2. Write a letter to the Premier, Health Minister and MLAs. Give the letter to your MLA. Have a copy for yourself and refer to the letter as you speak to your MLA.   For letter ideas see this page and additional resources below.
  3. Invite your MLA into a discussion about your shared goal to have healthy children.
  4. Ask your MLA some of the questions listed below.
  5. Before leaving, ask your MLA if you can count on them to support your right to informed consent, parental rights, and therapeutic choice.
  6. Get a copy of a vaccine insert and ask your MLA if he/she has read it.
  7. Leave copies of the other documents with him/her.
  8. Say you will follow up in a week after they have had a chance to read the materials to see if they have any questions.
Questions to Ask Your MLA?
  1. What do you hope vaccine mandates will accomplish?
  2. What is the medical emergency that necessitates the loss of individual and parental rights?
  3. How is a dozen cases of measles a medical emergency?
  4. How many measles related deaths have there been in Canada in the last 10 years?   Answer: 3 deaths, 1 adolescent (age 15-19 years) and 2 adults, 2007-2016. Significantly, NO child less than 15 years old, nor infants or young children have died from measles.
  5. How many children have been killed or injured by measles containing vaccines in Canada? Answer: As reported in the Canada Vigilance database, there were 9 deaths following measles containing vaccines, 1965-2015, and 237 severe adverse events following measles containing vaccines, 1970-2011. Canada Vigilance records can be found here: https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/wp-content/uploads/vcc-mmr-deaths-9-1965-2015.pdf and here: https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/wp-content/uploads/vcc-mmr-237-sae-age-1-7.pdf Furthermore a large Canadian study found that 1 in 168 children end up in ER following their 12 month shots which includes MMR and other vaccines: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3236196/
  6. Have you ever read a vaccine insert?
  7. If the justification is measles contagion, why are other vaccines being tracked or forced on families?
  8. Why is autism not considered an epidemic when it affects 1 in 79 children in New Brunswick?
  9. Is NB intending to implement a vaccine injury compensation plan?
  10. What screening is being planned to identify those with mitochondrial disorders who would be harmed by vaccines?
  11. Who will be held accountable for vaccine injuries and deaths?
  12. Will you support our right to informed consent and parental rights?
Key Messages
  1. No childhood vaccines tested for safety using an inert placebo.
  2. No evidence vaccines produce better overall health.
  3. No medically justified reason to impose vaccine mandates.
  4. No evidence eradication can be achieved with vaccines.
  5. Most vaccines are not designed to prevent transmission.
  6. Live viral vaccines shed up to six weeks post vaccination (why are recently vaccinated children not suspended from school until they stop shedding?).
  7. No evidence that injecting pregnant women is safe.
  8. Vaccines are liability free products. No incentive for vaccine manufacturers to make better or safer vaccines.
  9. Claims of vaccine industry are exaggerated.
  10. Vaccine-autism link has not been debunked. It’s been suppressed.
  11. Systems to provide oversight and safeguards have been captured or eliminated.
  12. No independent oversight. No legal oversight. No media oversight.
  13. Financial conflicts of interest is the norm.
  14. The International Bill of Human Rights protects the right of informed consent.
  15. Less than 1% of vaccine injuries are reported.
  16. Canada is the only G7 Nation without a national vaccine injury compensation
  17. The safety of injected mercury and aluminum has never been established. Both were grandfathered in.
  18. All vaccines should be carefully evaluated, both individually and in long-term studies, and then, synergistically, for toxicity with other vaccine
Strategy
  1. Defining the terms of a debate is halfway to winning it – use the language of ‘pro-vaccine choice’, parental choice, freedom of choice, freedom of speech
  2. Be precise, passionate, and assertive.
  3. Demand that our rights and freedoms be respected.
  4. Do not accept compromises. There is no compromise to freedom.
  5. Awareness brings responsibility. We have a responsibility to warn others of vaccine injury.
Potential Allies:
  1. NB nurses
  2. NB daycare workers (daycare workers will be next)
  3. NB teachers (teachers will be next)
  4. Any adult. Adult mandates will be next

Additional Resources:
Documents for New Brunswick residents to present to their MLA:
Consent or Coercion? – Prepared for Members of NB Legislature (pdf)
**NEW** New Brunswick Vaccine Schedule 1983 vs. 2020 (pdf)
Covering letter for you to personalize to your MLA. (MS Word doc format)
Questions for Canada’s Chief Medical Officer (pdf) for you to include in your MLA package.
Form letter to New Brunswick Legislators on Mandatory Vaccination– includes .docx file for you to personalize and includes e-mail addresses for all 49 MLAs in New Brunswick
VCC’s letter to Dominic Cardy and to all New Brunswick MLAs
New Brunswick Resident’s Appeal to MLAs on Mandatory Vaccination Vote
**NEW** Vaccines Given to New Brunswick Children Prenatal-18 Years– can be printed as postcard, poster, etc.
Measles in Canada – March 2019 (pdf)
An Open Letter to Legislators Currently Considering Vaccine Legislation from Tetyana Obukhanych PhD (pdf)
How to Reduce Vaccine Hesitancy (pdf)
Open Letter from International Organisations to the WHO on the Issue of Vaccine Safety (pdf)
18 Facts About Vaccine Risk (pdf)
Dear NB School Superintendents, Trustees, Principals and Teachers re: Bill 11– includes MS Word document to personalize
Find your MLA here.
E-mail addresses for New Brunswick MLA’s (June 2019)
gilles.lepage@gnb.ca
guy.arseneault@gnb.ca
daniel.guitard@gnb.ca
brian.kenny@gnb.ca
denis.landry2@gnb.ca
isabelle.theriault@gnb.ca
robert.gauvin@gnb.ca
keith.chiasson@gnb.ca
lisa.harris@gnb.ca
michelle.conroy@gnb.ca
jake.stewart@gnb.ca
kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca
benoit.bourque@gnb.ca
jacques.j.leblanc@gnb.ca
megan.mitton@gnb.ca
roger.l.melanson@gnb.ca
monique.a.leblanc@gnb.ca
robert.mckee@gnb.ca
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ernie.steeves@gnb.ca
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---------- Original  message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 14:47:34 -0300
Subject: Methinks I should remind Mr Cardy and his cohorts about what
went down between the NB vaccination expert Dr. Paul Van Buynderand
and I 10 years ago N'esy Pas?
To: "Dorothy.Shephard"<Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca>, "Matt.DeCourcey"
< Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca>, "Ginette.PetitpasTaylor"
< Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca>, "hugh.flemming"
< hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, PREMIER
< PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, Office of the
Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>, premier <premier@ontario.ca>, premier
< premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>, "sherry.wilson"<sherry.wilson@gnb.ca>,
"carl.urquhart"<carl.urquhart@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"
< blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Kevin.Vickers"<Kevin.Vickers@gnb.ca>,
"brian.gallant"<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"
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https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/multimedia/mmrenderer.2009.07.2009jul30_4.jpg.html

Health,  July 29, 2009 - Miramichi
H1N1 pandemic update
Dr. Paul Van Buynder, deputy chief medical officer of health, provided
an update on the H1N1 pandemic on Thursday, July 30, in Miramichi.
From left: Dr. Denis Allard, regional medical officer of health, East
Region; Van Buynder; and Ginette Pellerin, director of Public Health
for Regional Health Authority B - Miramichi zone 7 and Moncton zone 1.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mandatory-vaccination-students-new-brunswick-hearing-1.5263933


MLAs struggle with how to vote on mandatory vaccination for students bill

Law amendments committee hears from New Brunswick Pharmacists'
Association on final day of hearings

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Aug 29, 2019 3:23 PM AT


397 comments

David Amos
Methinks i should remind Mr Cardy and his cohorts about what went down
10 years ago between New Brunswick's vaccination expert Dr. Paul Van
Buynder the deputy chief medical officer of health and I N'esy Pas?



So Dr Van Buynder are you and the politicians still attempting to call
me crazy today? Also do you have apersonal lawyer?

Sep 28, 2009 at 10:40 PM
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David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: Van Buynder, Dr. Paul (DH/MS) <Paul.VanBuynder@gnb.ca>,
ken.ross@gnb.ca, Penny Bright <waterpressure@gmail.com>
Cc: drcarley <drcarley@drcarley.com>, jane burgermeister
< janeburgermeister@gmx.at>, Alexander S Jones
< jones.alexander39@gmail.com>, hazelbitsnaturals
< hazelbitsnaturals@hotmail.com
>, Alex Hunter
< ahunter100@shaw.ca>more...

I must ask Minister Mike Murphy how many Death Threats should I
recieve and and how many times should my children be sexually
harrassed before it is proper from me to sue the Crown and you as
well? Call me crazy but I take such things kinda personal.

You and T.J. Burke got your knickers in quite a knot years ago over a
mere weathergirl statement correct? What would you do Mikey if you got
locked up in a hospital that you were master of disater of and
assaulted and injected with drugs based on false allegations while
bloggers where having a hay day violating your privacy. Then wait for
over a year for an old friend to have it investigated. When i make
inquiries as to the the results of an investigation everybody plays
dumb orI am  told by such people as Megan Cumby not to call back or I
will be arrested AGAIN?? When I finally get talk to Doctor Banic he
PRETENDS that he does not even remember meeting meinside the hospital
that you oversaw as Minister. One thing I do know about myself is that
I am very hard to forget once you have met even briefly. I am certain
that the infamous blogger Chucky Leblanc and his old buddies the
politcal lawyers Bernie Lord and Bruce Noble would have to agree with
that simple statement.

On the topic of what I call the WHO FLU whats gonna happen if a lot of
folks you serve and protect get sick and jam up the hospital just
because they took Van Buynder's advice and people become aware of this
email before the news broke about the flu shot today EH? Well Mikey
Baby now that you are the Attorney General do ya wanna settle on
behalf of the CROWN or wait until I sue ya personally too?

Scroll down you can never deny that you didn't ask the RCMP to
investigate my concerns long before the stock market took a dive. Now
that all the taxpayers have top up your pension plan losses to the
tune of what was 300 million a year, I must ask the obvious question.
Do you think that you and all the overpaid bureaucrat have even earned
your wages let alone deserve a pension when legions of taxpayers are
losing their jobs and their life savings as well because people such
as yourself refused to act within the scope of your employments since
I first began making the CROWN aware of my concerns in early 2002???

In closing in must say the Dr may wish to call me crazy again because
I don't show resopect to power or position. In my book respect is
earned not demanded and I feel compeeld to remind him of an Oath TO DO
NO HARM if he has no conscience at all. I am not crazy because I
disagree with his decions and offer evidence to support that thinkinf.
It is still supposed to be a democracy CORRECT? As far as that
outspoken French dude on welfare Chucky Leblanc methinks he bites the
hand that feeds way too much to suit mean old me. His constant
bitching in his blog about shady six million daollar deal during the
flood is chump change. If you wish to make abig splash locally look to
the budgets then apply the same problem globally.

This email is about the heath of all people and the world economy. Get
it stupid?

I guess i should forward this email to New Zealand because I thinking
about moving there. I hear they like bike mechanics down there and i
can't get a job to keep me out of the cold up here. It appears nobody
wants me around because the politicans and the cops have put the word
out. Thus before I go I really should keep my word file some some
rather imporatant in Federal Court N'esy pas? Methinks for the benfit
of my conscience and the well being of others I should file something
about the FLU first. However I really think I should file about my
rights under Section 2 of the Charter. everybody and hiis dog knows I
was very illegally banished fot the Legislative properties in 2004
while I was running in the election of the 38th Parliament of Canada
and are to chicken to talk about it because my lawsuit would be a slam
dunk then CORRECT?

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/science/study-prompts-provinces-to-rethink-flu-plan/article1303330/

Study prompts provinces to rethink flu plan

•Working to keep the flu out of the pews
•Ontario delays fall flu shots over H1N1 threat
•Kids will require two H1N1 shots
. Article Comments (63) Patrick White

Winnipeg — From Monday's Globe and Mail
Last updated on Monday, Sep. 28, 2009 08:27AM EDT

.A “perplexing” Canadian study linking H1N1 to seasonal flu shots is
throwing national influenza plans into disarray and testing public
faith in the government agencies responsible for protecting the
nation's health.

Distributed for peer review last week, the study confounded
infectious-disease experts in suggesting that people vaccinated
against seasonal flu are twice as likely to catch swine flu.

The paper is under peer review, and lead researchers Danuta Skowronski
of the British Columbia Centre for Disease Control and Gaston De
Serres of Laval University must stay mum until it's published.

Met with intense early skepticism both in Canada and abroad, the paper
has since convinced several provincial health agencies to announce
hasty suspensions of seasonal flu vaccinations, long-held fixtures of
public-health planning.

“It has confused things very badly,” said Dr. Ethan Rubinstein, head
of adult infectious diseases at the University of Manitoba. “And it
has certainly cost us credibility from the public because of
conflicting recommendations. Until last week, there had always been
much encouragement to get the seasonal flu vaccine.”

On Sunday Quebec joined Alberta, Saskatchewan, Ontario and Nova Scotia
in suspending seasonal flu shots for anyone under 65 years of age.
Quebec's Health Ministry announced it would postpone vaccinations
until January, clearing the autumn months for health professionals to
focus on vaccinating against H1N1, which is expected to the more
severe influenza strain this season.

“By the time the H1N1 wave is over, there will be ample time to
vaccinate for seasonal flu,” Dr. Rubinstein said.

B.C. is expected to announce a similar suspension during a press
conference Monday morning.

Other provinces, including Manitoba, are still pondering a response to
the research.

New Brunswick is a lone hold-out, announcing last week it would forge
ahead with seasonal flu shots for all residents in October, as
originally planned.

So far, the study's impact is confined to Canada. Researchers in the
U.S., Britain and Australia have not reported the same phenomenon.
Marie-Paule Kieny, the World Health Organization's director of vaccine
research, said last week the Canadian findings were an international
anomaly and could constitute a “study bias.”

An international panel is currently scrutinizing the research data.
“The review process has been expedited, so we're hoping for a response
within days,” said Roy Wadia, spokesman for the B.C. Centre for
Disease Control.

Dr. Rubinstein, who has read the study, said it appears sound.

“There are a large number of authors, all of them excellent and
credible researchers,” he said. “And the sample size is very large –
12 or 13 million people taken from the central reporting systems in
three provinces. The research is solid.”

The vaccine suspensions do not apply for people over 65. Seniors are
considered more susceptible to severe seasonal flu symptoms. At the
same time, they carry antibodies from a 1957 pandemic that seem to
neutralize the current version of H1N1.

Even if the statistical link is proven, the medical link between
seasonal flu shots and H1N1 remains mysterious. One hypothesis
suggests seasonal flu vaccine preoccupies the cells that would
otherwise produce antibodies against H1N1.

But, according to Dr. Rubinstein, the research shows that people who
received the seasonal shot during the 2007-08 flu season remained
vulnerable to swine flu well into 2009 – an interval that should
provide most immune systems ample restoration time.

“We don't understand the mechanism,” Dr. Rubinstein said. “At the
present time it is quite perplexing.”

From: "Van Buynder, Dr. Paul (DH/MS)"<Paul.VanBuynder@gnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:02:56 -0300
Subject: RE: RE the WHO FLU and another instance in which an evil
Zionist's wish is my command?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, drcarley
< drcarley@drcarley.com>, jane burgermeister
< janeburgermeister@gmx.at>, Alexander S Jones
< jones.alexander39@gmail.com>, hazelbitsnaturals
< hazelbitsnaturals@hotmail.com>, Alex Hunter <ahunter100@shaw.ca>,
Penny Bright <waterpressure@gmail.com>, jacques_poitras
< jacques_poitras@cbc.ca>, chiefape@gmail.com, danddbroadcasting
< danddbroadcasting@gmail.com>, "Murphy, Michael B.  (Hon.) (JUS)"
< MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca>, "Schryer, Hon. Mary (DH/MS)"
< Mary.Schryer@gnb.ca>, "Ross, Ken (DH/MS)"<ken.ross@gnb.ca>, "Graham,
Shawn"<Shawn.Graham@gnb.ca>, Dan Fitzgerald <danf@danf.net>,
oldmaison@yahoo.com, Richard Harris <injusticecoalition@hotmail.com>,
"Foster, Ken (DH/MS)"<ken.foster@gnb.ca>, "DH-MS (DH/MS)"
< DhMs@gnb.ca>, "Richard, Jerry (DH/MS)"<jerry.richard@gnb.ca>, "Van
Buynder, Jan (DH/MS)"<Jan.VanBuynder@gnb.ca>, "(DH/MS)OCMOH - Office
of the Chief Medical Officer of Health"<PHCentralOfficeStaff@gnb.ca>
Cc: Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, rebeccaphb@yahoo.com, hubert
< hubert@uinr.ca>, splitting_the_sky <splitting_the_sky@yahoo.com>,
Mohawk Nation News <kahentinetha2@yahoo.com>, "Ignatieff. M"
< Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca>, "Jack - M.P. Layton"<Layton.J@parl.gc.ca>,
"Duceppe. G"<Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca>,
catharine.johannson@greenparty.ca, maureen.murphy@greenparty.ca,
michael.bernard@greenparty.ca, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, andrew
< andrew@andrewhouse.ca>, Byron Prior <alltrue@nl.rogers.com>,
DannyWilliams <DannyWilliams@gov.nl.ca>, "William J. Wagener"
< producer@onsecondthought.tv>

Dear Mr Amos,

I have received today numerous emails from you.  My staff have also
received a number of phone calls.  They have been instructed not to
respond and not to tolerate any abuse.

I would consider further calls and emails harassment and would need to
involve the police.  Please stop.

I am concerned from the tone of your emails that you may not be well
at present.  Can I strongly urge you to consult with your physician
for a review as soon as possible.

Dr Paul Van Buynder
Deputy Chief Medical Officer / Médecin-hygiéniste en chef adjoint
New Brunswick Department of Health / Ministère de la Santé Nouveau-Brunswick
Tel: (506) 444-2719
Fax: (506) 453-8702
Cell: (506) 470-1612
paul.vanbuynder@gnb.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:32 PM
To: drcarley; jane burgermeister; Alexander S Jones;
hazelbitsnaturals; Alex Hunter; Penny Bright; jacques_poitras;
chiefape@gmail.com; danddbroadcasting; Van Buynder, Dr. Paul (DH/MS);
Murphy, Michael B. (Hon.) (JUS); Schryer, Hon. Mary (DH/MS); Ross, Ken
(DH/MS); Graham, Shawn; Dan Fitzgerald; oldmaison@yahoo.com; Richard
Harris; Foster, Ken (DH/MS); DH-MS (DH/MS); Richard, Jerry (DH/MS);
Van Buynder, Jan (DH/MS)
Cc: Barry Winters; rebeccaphb@yahoo.com; hubert; splitting_the_sky;
Mohawk Nation News; Ignatieff. M; Jack - M.P. Layton; Duceppe. G;
catharine.johannson@greenparty.ca; maureen.murphy@greenparty.ca;
michael.bernard@greenparty.ca; Harper.S@parl.gc.ca; andrew; Byron
Prior; DannyWilliams; William J. Wagener
Subject: RE the WHO FLU and another instance in which an evil
Zionist's wish is my command?

Barry Baby

Scroll down Thanks to you this email is most excellent fodder for a
lawsuit and a book or two as well.

Also THANX bigtime for publishing many malicious comments in and about
my Youtube about you, sending me the proof that many others received
the same emails as you have in recent days and then topping it all off
by publishing a portion of my communictions with many people about the
WHO FLU within your malicious blog.

BTW You did  it all while I was talking to the Media dude for the
Green Party about your blog. Not that was truly wickedly funny. talk
about information overload.

In return for your malicious nonsense I will post this email in my
blog. You know were to look already N'esy Pas Mr tough talking noname
evil Zionist? Try to deny that you use UK font again will ya? It fun
sometimes to expose your obvious BULLSHIT.

Just Dave
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For the record (that ain't a Yankee expression) in my humble opinion
if the Green Party of Canada clues in, seizes the moment and climbs up
the right side of this WHO FLU issue ASAP just as the Canadian Action
Party already has done long ago Harper may have the election he seeks
but without the results he longs for. Despite all their huffing and
puffing we all know that Iggy and Layton fear an election greatly.
However if honest Canadians have any luck at all it may turn out to be
Stevey Boy Harper's Waterloo. Hell maybe even a few Greens, some CAP
folks and a few more Independents may get elected to properly take a
seat in the House of Commons and a chance to act ethically for the on
behalf of the public's interests. If after the next can of worms is
kicked over public corruption is discussed in a far more serious
fashion during all the talks from the various soap boxes outside of
the corrupt corporate media's domain a lot of professional politicians
could be greatly embarassed. Do ya think CBC or CTV or Gobal will say
two words about it all? However many bloggers and Youtubes may step up
to the plate. It would be wonderful to turn the worm on all the
political cromies and their corporate buddies. Wouldn't it be neat for
Common Canadians Citizens to debate the Green Party and the Action
Party etc without Harper or Iggy or Layton being allowed to muck
things up with their Bullshit? Hell of a pipe dream EH Mr Duceppe?

Mr Baconfat perhaps while you are trying hard to impeach my character
in your next round od evil posts you should consider publishing some
of Becky's words too. Even though she hates mean old me nearly as much
as you do at least she is on the right side of this issue. Thus you
must hate her too correct? Maybe you should pick a fight with her? I
know for a fact that she loves a good scrap.

Veritas Vncit
David Raymond Amos

P.S. Say Hoka Hey to your pals in the PCO office for me will ya Mr Baconfat?

From: Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:05:06 -0600
Subject: Charlie!
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

September 25, 2009
Charles Manson...reborn
David Raymond Amos "amerkan" pedophile, anti-Semite.... and Charlie Manson
doppleganger?

David lift your hair up ...is there a swastika "tat" on your forhead? It
would explain a lot of your behaviour (note the spelling lol)

Tell Werner not to cum in yer mouth...lol
Posted by Seren at 9:59 AM 0 comments
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To: "Barry Winters"<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>; "dean Ray"
< deanr0032@hotmail.com>; "Dean.Buzza"<Dean.Buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; "dan.
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< ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>; "shawn. graham"<shawn.graham@gnb.ca>
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M.P. Layton"<Layton.J@parl.gc.ca>; "Duceppe. G"<Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca>;
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Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:48 AM
Subject: Fwd: [Just Dave] New comment on Me and Bush.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Raymond Amos <noreply-comment@blogger.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:43:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Just Dave] New comment on Me and Bush.
To: David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com

David Raymond Amos has left a new comment on the post "Me and Bush":

BINGO EH MR Baconfat? I bet the diddler Dana Durnford and your buddy
Dirty Dicky Dean ain't even got the first clue what this is about. In
fact neither do you EH pussy?

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From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:49:29 -0300
Subject: RE the Russian President and dissidents to Obama Howcome his
people NEVER answered my letters or emails or returned my calls
To: info@rusembassy.ca, Dan Fitzgerald
danf@danf.net, "t.j.burke@gnb.ca"t.j.burke@gnb.ca, Barry Winters
sunrayzulu@shaw.ca, drbilldeagle drbilldeagle@hotmail.com
Cc: VanLoan.P@parl.gc.ca, vanlop1@parl.gc.ca, "MichaelB. Murphy"
MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca, "PATRICK. MURPHY"PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jzUtXehTJd_j3Mfd1oHKVna2eodwD9ANTO9G4

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:25:19 -0300
Subject: FYI THE DOINGS BETWEEN RUMSFELD, OBAMA'S MONEY DUDES AND ME
SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF DR BILL
To: jane burgermeister jmburgermeister@gmail.com
Cc: Campbell Rebecca rebeccaphb@yahoo.com

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7625601/Rumdfeld-PhRMA



On 9/25/09, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: "Ross, Ken (DH/MS)"<ken.ross@gnb.ca>
> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:43:31 -0300
> Subject: Re: Hey Ken Who is Mental Health's and the Hospital in
> Fredericton's lawyers?
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Got your messages Dave. I am in Toronto for meetings and will be back
> in the office Friday. I will ask Barb Whitenect to follow up with you
> in the interim. Yes Herby picked up ypur bike a while back.
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> To: Ross, Ken (DH/MS); Whitenect, Barbara (DH/MS); Murphy, Michael B.
> (DH/MS)
> Cc: Santerre, Rosaire (DH/MS); Pitre, Marc (DH/MS); Eidt, David
> (OAG/CPG); oldmaison@yahoo.com<oldmaison@yahoo.com>; Cyr, Judy
> (DH/MS); Burke, T.J. (Hon.) (JUS); police@fredericton.ca
> < police@fredericton.ca>; Levesque, Carrie (DH/MS); Elgee, Anne
> (DH/MS); danny.copp@fredericton.ca<danny.copp@fredericton.ca>;
> jacques.boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca<jacques.boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
> Sent: Wed Jul 09 07:03:13 2008
> Subject: Hey Ken Who is Mental Health's and the Hospital in
> Fredericton's lawyers?
>
> KENNETH ROSS, Assistant Deputy Minister
> Addictions and Mental Health Services / Health
>   Contact Information
> Phone: (506) 457-4800
> Fax: (506) 453-5243
>
> BARBARA WHITENECT, Director
> Addictions and Mental Health Services / Health
> Contact Information
> Phone: (506) 444-4442
> Fax: (506) 453-8711
> EMail Address: Barbara.Whitenect@gnb.ca
>
>
> Sorry to involve you but lets just say that I am really really pissed
> off for very justifiable reasons.
>
> This should prove to some folks that at least I know how to read.
>
> http://www.ahsc.health.nb.ca/Programs/MentalHealth/rights.shtml
>
>   I have no doubt whatsoever that you would more pissed than I am if
> the malicious bullshit that happened to me last weekend had happened
> to you.
>
> I will try to call you in business hours but I suspect in the end I
> will wind up arguing this dude in court in short order. (On a lighter
> note did Herby pick up my bike?)
>
> David Eidt
> Legal Services
> Office of the Attorney General
> Tel: (506) 453-3964
> Fax: (506) 453-3275
> david.eidt@gnb.ca
>
> Best Regards
> Dave
>
>
> These emails and the bullshit from the news last year should to all
> that I am as serious as a heart attack and far from mentally unstabe
> but the cops have proven themselves to be monumental liars many times
>
> Subject:
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
>
> January 30, 2007
>
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Mr. David Amos
>
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>
> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> Graham of the RCMP "J" Division in Fredericton.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> Minister of Health
>
> CM/cb
>
> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,
> John.Foran@gnb.ca, Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,
> "Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have n
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off over
> the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I was not
> ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>
> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>
> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear that
> Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada and the
> US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment policing in
> Petitcodiac, NB.
>
> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> Traffic Services NCO
> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>
> charles leblanc oldmaison@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Where are ya living now???? Since the media seem to ignore ya? I'll
> sit down for a debate with a recorder for the blog...Now? Don't get
> all exicted and send this all over the world.....lol
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> To: brad.woodside@fredericton.ca; whalen@fredericton.ca;
> david.kelly@fredericton.ca; cathy.maclaggan@fredericton.ca;
> stephen.kelly@fredericton.ca; tom.jellinek@fredericton.ca;
> scott.mcconaghy@fredericton.ca; marilyn.kerton@fredericton.ca;
> walter.brown@fredericton.ca; norah.davidson@fredericton.ca;
> mike.obrien@fredericton.ca; bruce.grandy@fredericton.ca;
> dan.keenan@fredericton.ca; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca;
> mrichard@lawsociety-barreau.nb.ca; cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca;
> jlmockler@mpor.ca; scotta@parl.gc.ca; michael.bray@gnb.ca;
> jack.e.mackay@gnb.ca
> Cc: news@dailygleaner.com; kcarmichael@bloomberg.net;
> oldmaison@yahoo.com; advocacycollective@yahoo.com;
> Easter.W@parl.gc.ca; Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca; cityadmin@fredericton.ca;
> info@gg.ca; bmosher@mosherchedore.ca; rchedore@mosherchedore.ca;
> police@fredericton.ca; chebert@thestar.ca; Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca;
> Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca; Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca; alltrue@nl.rogers.com;
> Harper.S@parl.gc.ca; Layton.J@parl.gc.ca; Dryden.K@parl.gc.ca;
> Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:37:04 PM
> Subject: I promised one of the Fat Fred City cop Randy Reilly that I
> would try to make him famous
>
> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=davidraymondamos&search=Search
>
> A man is only as good as his word EH? To bad priests, bankers,
> politicians, lawyers and cops can't claim the same N'est Pas
>
> http://actionlyme.org/FBI_WIRETAPE_TAPES.htm
>
> FEDERAL EXPRESS February 7, 2006
>
> Senator Arlen Specter
> United States Senate
> Committee on the Judiciary
> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
> Washington, DC 20510
>
> Dear Mr. Specter:
>
> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
> raised in the attached letter. Mr. Amos has represented to me that
> these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes. I believe Mr. Amos has been in
> contact with you about this previously.
>
> Very truly yours,
> Barry A. Bachrach
> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>
>
>
> http://davidamos.blogspot.com/.
>
> Paulette Delaney-Smith Paulette.Delaney-Smith@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
> David,
>
> I received your voice mail, I have been transferred to another unit
> and I am unaware of who is dealing with your complaints at this time.
>
> Paulette Delaney-Smith, Cpl.
> RCMPolice "J" DIvision HQ
>
>
>
> http://gypsy-blog.blogspot.com/2008/03/media-restrains-itself-inexplicably.html
>
> Threat against Burke taken seriously
>
> By STEPHEN LLEWELLYN
> dgleg@nb.aibn.com
> Published Thursday May 24th, 2007
> Appeared on page A1
> An RCMP security detail has been guarding Justice Minister and
> Attorney General T.J. Burke because of threats made against him
> recently.
>
> Burke, the Liberal MLA for Fredericton-Fort Nashwaaksis, wouldn't
> explain the nature of the threats.
>
> "I have had a particular individual or individuals who have made
> specific overtures about causing harm towards me," he told reporters
> Wednesday.
>
> "The RCMP has provided security to me recently by accompanying me to a
> couple of public functions where the individual is known to reside or
> have family members in the area," said Burke. "It is nice to have some
> added protection and that added comfort."
>
> The RCMP provides protection to the premier and MLAs with its VIP security
> unit.
>
> Burke didn't say when the threat was made but it's believed to have
> been in recent weeks.
>
> "When a threat is posed to you and it is a credible threat, you have
> to be cautious about where you go and who you are around," he said.
> "But again, I am more concerned about my family as opposed to my own
> personal safety."
>
> Burke said he doesn't feel any differently and he has not changed his
> pattern of activity.
>
> "It doesn't bother me one bit," he said. "It makes my wife feel awful
> nervous."
>
> Burke served in an elite American military unit before becoming a
> lawyer and going into politics in New Brunswick.
>
> "(I) have taken my own precautions and what I have to do to ensure my
> family's safety," he said. "I am a very cautious person in general due
> to my background and training.
>
> "I am comfortable with defending myself or my family if it ever had to
> happen."
>
> Burke said it is not uncommon for politicians to have security concerns.
>
> "We do live unfortunately in an age and in a society now where threats
> have to be taken pretty seriously," he said.
>
> Since the terrorism attacks in the United States on Sept. 11, 2001,
> security in New Brunswick has been
> beefed up.
>
> Metal detectors were recently installed in the legislature and all
> visitors are screened.
>
> The position of attorney general is often referred to as the
> province's "top cop."
>
> Burke said sometimes people do not differentiate between his role as
> the manager of the justice system and the individual who actually
> prosecutes them.
>
> "With the job sometimes comes threats," he said. "I have had numerous
> threats since Day 1 in office."
>
> Burke said he hopes his First Nations heritage has nothing to do with it.
>
> "I think it is more of an issue where people get fixated on a matter
> and they believe you are personally responsible for assigning them
> their punishment or their sanction," he said.
>
> Is the threat from someone who was recently incarcerated?
>
> "I probably shouldn't answer that," he replied.
>
> Reporters asked when the threat would be over.
>
> "I don't think a threat ever passes once it has been made," said
> Burke. "You have to consider the credibility of the source."
>
> Bruce Fitch, former justice minister in the Conservative government,
> said "every now and again there would be e-mails that were not
> complimentary."
>
> "I did have a meeting with the RCMP who are in charge of the security
> of the MLAs and ministers," said Fitch.
>
> "They look at each and every situation."
>
> Fitch said he never had bodyguards assigned to him although former
> premier Bernard Lord and former health minister Elvy Robichaud did
> have extra security staff assigned on occasion.
>
> He said if any MLA felt threatened, he or she would discuss it with the
> RCMP.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 23:43:58 -0300
> Subject: (: Yo Woodsman Werner and Danny Boy :) Your defence of me is
> greatly appreciated THANX
> To: webo@xplornet.com, danf@danf.net, Wayne.STEEVES@gnb.ca,
> frederic.loiseau@fredericton.ca, tony.whalen@gnb.ca
> Cc: injusticecoalition@hotmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
> abel.leblanc@gnb.ca, T.J.Burke@gnb.ca, jack.keir@gnb.ca, nbpc@gnb.ca,
> arnold.hadley@gnb.ca, john.foran@gnb.ca, premier@gnb.ca,
> Jeannot.VOLPE@gnb.ca
>
> At first I though you spelled Soviet wrong Werner but then I realized
> it is how Germans' spell it. Now that is funny but it proved you
> sincerity to Danny Boy Fitzgerald as well because he supplied the link
> to it.
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html
>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sowjet
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/07/off-duty-ns-cops-taunt-taser-digby-man.html
>
> http://govinjustice.blogspot.com/
>
> http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.com/2008/07/david-amos-picked-up-by-rcmp.html
>
> http://gypsy-blog.blogspot.com/2008/06/pc-headquarters.html
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> JUDY CYR, Coordinator
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>   Phone: (506) 856-2924
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> MARC PITRE, Patient Advocate
> Psychiatric Patient Advocate Services / Health
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> On 9/25/09, Van Buynder, Dr. Paul (DH/MS) <Paul.VanBuynder@gnb.ca> wrote:
>> Dear Mr Amos,
>>
>> I have received today numerous emails from you.  My staff have also
>> received
>> a number of phone calls.  They have been instructed not to respond and
>> not
>> to tolerate any abuse.
>>
>> I would consider further calls and emails harassment and would need to
>> involve the police.  Please stop.
>>
>> I am concerned from the tone of your emails that you may not be well at
>> present.  Can I strongly urge you to consult with your physician for a
>> review as soon as possible.
>>
>> Dr Paul Van Buynder
>> Deputy Chief Medical Officer / Médecin-hygiéniste en chef adjoint
>> New Brunswick Department of Health / Ministère de la Santé
>> Nouveau-Brunswick
>> Tel: (506) 444-2719
>> Fax: (506) 453-8702
>> Cell: (506) 470-1612
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> 
Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 20:25:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Re The Bank of Canada COMER and the lawyer Rocco Galati
No Thanks for not listening to me years ago Mr Priestman
To: rdpriestman@gmail.com, rocco@idirect.com, herb.wiseman@gmail.com,
comerpub@comer.org, CTAmerica@yandex.com, CTGlobalDocs@yahoo.com,
"ht.lacroix"<ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"
< Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "joe.oliver.a1"<joe.oliver.a1@parl.gc.ca>,
acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, RGalati@idirect.com, pm
< pm@pm.gc.ca>, "peter.mackay"<peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca>http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/harper-and-bankers.html


http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/rocco-galati-challenges-role-of-bank-of-canada-in-latest-case-1.3065650

Rocco Galati challenges role of Bank of Canada in latest case
Maverick lawyer argues central bank should provide interest-free money
for infrastructureCBC News Posted: May 08, 2015 3:32 PM ET Last Updated: May 08, 2015 4:12 PM ET

The case against Bank of Canada 18:40

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The lawyer best known for stopping the Supreme Court appointment of
Judge Marc Nadon has turned his sights on the Bank of Canada.

Rocco Galati has taken on a case for a group called the Committee for
Monetary and Economic Reform, or COMER, which wants the central bank
to return to the practice of lending federal and provincial
governments interest-free money for infrastructure.

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"They felt it was important in the face of the financial sector
meltdown in 2008, the banking meltdown, and the drastic reduction and
elimination of human capital infrastructure such as health care,
universities and basically the stuff that the Bank of Canada from 1938
to 1974 funded," Galati said in an interview with CBC's The Exchange
with Amanda Lange.

His clients have been dismissed as conspiracy theorists, but Galati
argues the law is there to support their case.

The Bank of Canada was set up in 1935 in the wake of the Great
Depression to provide a means for settling international accounts and
to provide interest-free loans to government to finance infrastructure
investments.
History of infrastructure funding

Projects like the St. Lawrence Seaway and the Trans-Canada highway
were funded in this way, and the central bank also underwrote Canada's
Second World War effort as well as the building of hospitals and
universities.

But in 1974, the central bank stopped providing interest-free loans to
government so it could join the Bank for International Settlements, a
kind of central bank of central banks.

Galati argues that from then on private banks became government's
lender, contravening the act that established the central bank.

He has launched legal action, beginning in 2011, to rule on the
constitutionality of the central bank's current role. His argument is
that private banks are dictating the terms of Canadian debt, usurping
the role of the Bank of Canada.
Is government bound by original act?

"My hope is that the court declare that the government is bound by the
legislation and cannot simply hand over that decision-making to
foreign private bankers," Galati said.

"What the government then does is up to the government, but they can't
simply arbitrarily say 'no never again' when the law is there and the
history of the reason for creating the Bank of Canada is there."

The Committee for Monetary and Economic Reform takes the view that
having the Bank of Canada provide funding would eliminate interest
payments on the national debt — a huge burden for the Canadian
taxpayer.

Galati agrees the case is a strange and quixotic one, but he's built a
career on holding the government to the law.

"It wasn't arcane for me, it's in the law," he said.

And he acknowledged it will probably earn him few friends. He'll never
be made a judge or even sit on a law faculty. And it will be a long
fight.

"Well, most struggles to enforce the law are. I mean, often, I've had
cases that have gone 12 years, successfully at the end of the day,
because the government simply wants to ignore the law," he said.

"That's the system we have, and when they do, the only people that can
force them to abide by the law are the courts."
Marc Nadon case

Last year when Prime Minister Stephen Harper nominated Nadon to the
Supreme Court, Galati stepped in, saying the move broke the rules. Few
expected him to win. But in a surprise decision, he did.

"I saw an attempt to pervert and subvert our independent judiciary,
which is the last bastion of balancing the rights of the citizens
against the rights of the government and making sure that the
government doesn't turn into a dictatorship," he said. "If you can
stack the court and corrupt the judiciary, well, that's it."

Galati said he believes Parliament has become ineffective in checking
the power of government and the courts are the only recourse.


 
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PM rejects calls from 19 prominent Canadians to set Meng free to secure the release of 2 Canadians

June 25, 2020, 2:10 pm
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Replying to @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks now that NAFTA 2.0 is finally a deal the mindless lawyer David Lametti will be ordered to set Madame Meng free as Trudeau et al attempt to turn the worm on Trump and makeamends with China N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/pm-rejects-calls-from-19-prominent.html







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB4hewDLiSI


John Bolton on Canada-China tensions and the Trump presidency

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CBC News: The National
A foreign policy hawk with a year-long stint as U.S President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, John Bolton, sat down with The National's Adrienne Arsenault to talk about his White House memoir and his views on Trump’s presidency.
 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/bolton-trump-trudeau-1.5619484

 CBC News· Posted: Jun 19, 2020 2:22 PM ET |

Bolton's dig at Chretien over Huawei

Bolton's book also takes a quick dig at former prime minister Jean Chrétien. It involves Chrétien's suggestion that Canada should free Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou, in Canadian custody pending extradition to the U.S.

"Never a friend of the U.S., [Chrétien] was arguing that Canada should simply not abide by our extradition treaty," he writes.





---------- Original message ----------
From: Scott Fenton <sfenton@fentonlaw.ca>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 21:24:43 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO David Lametti RE Federal Court Rule 55
easily proves that the "Rule of Law" is a myth in Canada Methinks
lawyers working for Huawei's CFO Meng Wanzhou will talk to mow
N'esy Pas Nathalie.Drouin?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Frater, Robert"<Robert.Frater@justice.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 21:24:36 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO David Lametti RE Federal Court Rule 55
easily proves that the "Rule of Law" is a myth in Canada Methinks
lawyers working for Huawei's CFO Meng Wanzhou will talk to mow
N'esy Pas Nathalie.Drouin?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

I will be in court the week of January 20. I will respond to emails
when I am able to do so.



---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 17:24:32 -0400
Subject: YO David Lametti RE Federal Court Rule 55 easily proves that
the "Rule of Law" is a myth in Canada Methinks lawyers working for
Huawei's CFO Meng Wanzhou will talk to mow N'esy Pas Nathalie.Drouin?
To: David.Lametti@parl.gc.ca, Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca,
mcu@justice.gc.ca, Renee.Theriault@scc.csc.ca,
Norman.Sabourin@cjc-ccm.gc.ca, marc.giroux@fja-cmf.gc.ca, Rachel.rappaport@justice.gc.ca,
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Please enjoy my blog about Meng Wanzhou and YOU people

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/huawei-canada-statement-regarding-meng.html

Wednesday, 22 January 2020

Huawei Canada Statement Regarding Meng Wanzhou Case


---------- Original message ----------
From: "Drouin, Nathalie (BRQ)"<Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 22:41:54 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : Methinks Minister David Lametti should
explain Federal Court Rule 55 and the document hereto attached real
slow to your former politcal boss Justin trudeau N'esy Pas Jane
Philpott?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Veuillez noter que je suis absente le 16 août 2019, sans accès à mes
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nafta-pandemic-covid-coronavirus-trade-1.5633548


In a world economy reshaped by a virus, the new North American trade deal takes effect

The new NAFTA tried not to change too much — and then the pandemic changed everything

Janyce McGregor· CBC News· Posted: Jul 01, 2020 4:00 AM ET


Workers on the production line at Chrysler's assembly plant in Windsor, Ont., work on one of their new minivans on January 18, 2011. (Geoff Robins/Canadian Press)

As negotiators shook hands on the revised North American free trade agreement, they couldn't have foreseen the fundamental upheaval their countries would soon be facing thanks to the COVID-19 pandemic.

If the Trudeau government is looking to celebrate something this Canada Day, it may be the relative security of the status quo that was more or less preserved in the talks.

"Bullet dodged"— that's how Brett House, Scotiabank's deputy chief economist, summed things up for CBC News last weekend.

"Sometimes," he said, "the biggest victories are the bad things prevented, rather than new things built."

Unlike Canada's original trade deals with the U.S. and the other major trade deals the Trudeau government has implemented with European and Pacific Rim partners, the new NAFTA doesn't substantially liberalize more trade. Most North American tariffs had been eliminated already.

The new automotive chapter, in contrast, adds more protectionism by requiring manufacturers to use more local components and higher labour standards to avoid tariffs.

When Global Affairs released its economic impact study for the new agreement last winter, it was criticized for basing its comparisons not on the terms of the original NAFTA but a hypothetically devastating scenario in which President Donald Trump completely pulled the plug on preferential trade with Canada.

How likely was that? Opinions still vary as to whether the Trudeau government had any real alternative to going along with the renegotiation.

As last week's threat to reimpose aluminum tariffs suggests, this White House remains unpredictable and, sometimes, unthinkable, even in the face of strong economic arguments about the value of free trade with one's neighbours.



'Negative on balance'

In attempting to modernize NAFTA for the 21st century, did negotiators meet the standard of "first, do no harm"?

In a paper released Tuesday by the C.D. Howe Institute, consultant trade economist Dan Ciuriak revisited the economic modelling done by the International Monetary Fund, the U.S. International Trade Commission and Global Affairs Canada, as well as his own figures, and tried to make sense of how things look now — amid the chaos of a pandemic that's disrupted international supply chains, shut down all but essential cross-border travel and introduced a new public health rationale for constricting trade on national security grounds.

"There are many sources of uncertainty that at present do not lend themselves to a robust quantification," his summary concludes. "The known knowns promise to be negative on balance; as for the known unknowns, time will tell."

"Just as companies were starting to prepare and think about [NAFTA implementation], COVID came," said Brian Kingston, outgoing vice-president responsible for trade issues at the Business Council of Canada.

"Their focus is turned 100 per cent to survival and making sure that they can get through this pandemic intact."


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and U.S. President Donald Trump arrive to take part in a plenary session at the NATO Summit in Watford, Hertfordshire, England, on Dec. 4, 2019. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

Despite the pandemic (or perhaps to distract from it), Trump demanded a June 1 implementation date. When he couldn't get that, he insisted on a July 1 implementation, to make sure a done deal was ready to campaign on this fall.



Rather than risk more punishment and political grief by stalling, Canada and Mexico agreed, paving the way for the Canada Day starting line.

For Canada, starting in July instead of August is very expensive for its dairy sector — and perhaps for the taxpayers who ultimately will compensate farmers for it. The dairy fiscal year begins in August, and since NAFTA concessions ramp up at the start of each new dairy year, that ramp is steeper with this timing.

One innovation in the original NAFTA now begins to vanish from the corporate toolkit: the investor-state dispute system (ISDS), which let companies bypass regular courts and challenge the regulatory decisions of Canadian governments directly through NAFTA arbitration (ISDS is also referred to by its location in the original text: "Chapter 11").

The ability of multinationals to seek millions in damages in such lawsuits "was always something that critics of the original NAFTA deal hated," said cross-border trade lawyer Mark Warner. "So that's a pretty big change."

Other changes businesses need to adapt to, like the copyright changes in the intellectual property chapter, are "largely a wash," Warner said.

Bumpy road for carmakers

The new NAFTA's uniform regulations for automotive manufacturing have only been out for a couple of weeks — during a time when carmakers have been preoccupied with reviving their supply chains and factories from the relative coma of this spring's lockdown.



"Without COVID, this would have been the most important issue facing that most important industry, and now this is probably a distant second," said Warner.

"I don't think anyone in auto … has really had time to concentrate the mind on [the new NAFTA] coming into effect. I think we're going to see a delayed reaction that plays out over time."

Will the revised agreement eventually fulfil Trump's pledge of returning more automotive jobs and investment to the U.S. (and Canada)? Or will manufacturers opt to comply by paying Mexican workers more, as some Japanese facilities are already signalling? Could some skip NAFTA compliance altogether?
Trade law professor Elizabeth Trujillo from the University of Houston said that while the new labour provisions are consistent with the populist values of Mexico's current president, complete compliance with new labour standards on the Mexican side is "unlikely."

"Will that be enforced? If it is, what does that mean? More tariffs?" she said.

It's now possible for claims of labour violations to be pursued against Mexico under NAFTA's now-revised state-to-state dispute resolution process.



"The more likely scenario is that a lot of these manufacturers will just not use the new NAFTA … they'll work outside of it," Trujillo said. "Just pay what they have to pay [in tariffs] and not have to adjust their way of doing things to the new rules."

As it reworks its supply chain strategy, Mexico may collaborate with other countries — especially other Latin American countries that also have free trade agreements with the U.S., like Colombia, she said.

Trade professor Meredith Lilly of Carleton University, a former adviser to Stephen Harper's government, predicts "real bumps" ahead as this sector transitions to the new rules while trying to remain globally competitive.

"Over the long term, eventually the price of cars is going to go up," she said, pointing out that North American components and labour will be more expensive.

De minimis, dairy changes kick in

Not every sector faces as many new rules as the automotive industry. For regular consumers, changes attributable to NAFTA may be almost undetectable.

"The biggest win is that Canadians won't see a lot of change," Kingston said. "The less that we see is actually a sign that the agreement is working as planned."



There are a few small consumer gains.

With online shopping and shipping more popular than ever, goods shipped from by U.S. by courier services no longer face customs duties if they're valued under $150, and won't incur sales taxes if they're worth less than $40. If purchases are shipped by mail, however, the previous threshold of $20 will still apply.


Dairy cows walk in a pasture at Nicomekl Farms, in Surrey, B.C., on Thursday August 30, 2018. (Darryl Dyck/THE CANADIAN PRESS)

While the market access conceded to the U.S. for supply-managed agricultural products like dairy, eggs and poultry should, in theory, spur more competitive pricing and add more choice to store shelves, it's not a given that will happen.

The pandemic has dramatically disrupted food supplies and prices, which might make any concurrent NAFTA changes hard to spot.

The new licences to import American products will also be given mostly to Canadian processors, not retailers — something the Americans have threatened to fight because they don't trust Canada's domestic industry to deliver the market share promised to U.S. farmers.

Sour relations

While the implementation of the new NAFTA could have been an opportunity to relaunch Canada-U.S. trade relations with a more positive attitude, Lilly said she fears this opportunity has been lost. Instead, the pandemic has left Canadians with a bad taste in their mouths about their neighbours.



The Trump administration's attempt to prevent 3M from shipping N95 masks to Canada is an example of how there's "no loyalty and no love lost" between the partners in the North American trading bloc right now, she said.

"It's caused Canadians to reflect a great deal," she said, adding she worries the Trudeau government's ambitions for diversified trade aren't shared by the general public.

Hassan Yussuff, the president of the Canadian Labour Council who also served on Canada's NAFTA advisory council during the negotiations, said he hopes the deal brings positive changes to the lives of working people in Mexico. He said he also hopes the new NAFTA regulations, in turn, will make employers think twice about leaving Canada in the first place — easing the resentment workers felt about the original NAFTA deal.

COVID-19 is prompting countries to re-examine how far they have pushed the envelope on international trade, and to revisit the idea of making certain things at home, he said.

"We cannot be this vulnerable," Yussuff said. And even if there is a new president in the White House after November, he added, domestic political pressures will remain.

"Americans always act in their own self-interest. We should not think we're special. We have to be vigilant, and get used to this."

About the Author



Janyce McGregor
Parliamentary Bureau
Janyce McGregor has covered Canadian politics for CBC News since 2001. Send news tips to: Janyce.McGregor@cbc.ca
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/john-bolton-the-national-interview-1.5633221


John Bolton on Trudeau, Canada's tensions with China and not voting for Trump

Canada-U.S. relations 'transcend the vagaries' of Trump, says ex-presidential adviser


CBC News· Posted: Jun 30, 2020 7:30 PM ET |



John Bolton says possible threat by Russia on U.S. troops in Afghanistan needs to be investigated. 3:02

John Bolton may no longer be part of the Trump administration — or even a supporter of the president — but the former U.S. national security adviser still believes in the country's clout on the world stage, which he says is being used to back up Canada amid tensions with China.

"The negative consequences caused by the Trump presidency can be overcome," he said in an interview with The National's Adrienne Arsenault, noting however that the "position of the United States in the world has not fundamentally changed."

"Those who are anti-American will pick on Trump as an example of America in decline, and they would be wrong."

Bolton was fired by Donald Trump in September and has since authored a book about his time in the White House

He said the U.S. is still a force to be reckoned with, and that the country will be invaluable in efforts to secure the release of Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig, two Canadians detained in China as what Bolton called retaliation for Canada arresting Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou at the request of the U.S.
"Obviously, they were picking on Canada rather than arresting American citizens. That tells you a lot about the character of that regime," Bolton said.

"This is why we're concerned about Huawei and [Chinese telecommunications company] ZTE to begin with. They are arms of the state of China, they're not commercial telecommunications firms in the sense that we in the West understand it and they have a much larger mission than good telephone connections.

"So when they put pressure on a small country like Canada, it's important for all of us to stand together and present a united front."

WATCH | U.S. standing behind Canada on China arrests, says Bolton:


John Bolton says the U.S. is standing behind Canada after two Canadians were detained in China. 1:28

Bolton said he thought of advice from within the administration to Trudeau to stand firm on Meng's extradition not as pressure, but as the U.S. reassuring Canada "we weren't going to let the Chinese get away with this."

He also noted Canada's relationship with the U.S. has been strained under Trump but will remain strong, and he commended Justin Trudeau for the prime minister's "responsible" interactions with the president.

"It's not easy for any foreign leader, especially from American allies, to deal with this anomalous president," he said. "The fundamental relations between two countries really do transcend the vagaries, even of an election of a national leader."

WATCH | Bolton commends Trudeau's 'responsible' behaviour with Trump:


John Bolton says it's not easy for foreign leaders to work with Trump and commended Justin Trudeau's 'responsible' interactions with the president. 1:27

When it comes time to cast a ballot in the upcoming presidential election, Bolton said he's not going to vote for Trump — nor for his Democratic rival, Joe Biden.

"I'm going to write in a conservative Republican. I think that's the philosophically right thing to do," he said, acknowledging that some people who voted for Trump in 2016 or didn't vote at all will vote for Biden.

"I respect that choice but that's not mine.

"For a conservative Republican — and I've been one since I was 15 and handing out leaflets for Barry Goldwater — this is not a happy time."


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6SQhFzzmOs


Hannity on Joe Biden's big day out

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•Jun 30, 2020

For the first time in 89 days, the weak and ever-confused Joe Biden emerged from his basement bunker and answered a few questions from the media. #FoxNews#Hannity



https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/bolton-interview-trump-current-1.5628262


Trump had superficial, transactional view of Meng extradition case, Bolton tells CBC Radio

U.S. president compared Meng Wanzhou to Ivanka Trump, offered to reverse Huawei prosecution, Bolton claims

CBC Radio· Posted: Jun 26, 2020 12:55 PM ET


White House national security adviser John Bolton, shown listening to U.S. President Donald Trump, has espoused hawkish views on Iran for years. Bolton was also a chief architect of the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq. (Carlos Barria/Reuters)


John Bolton believes Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou's extradition case is solid and that he himself would be willing to testify in a Canadian court against suggestions it is politically motivated, the former White House national security adviser said in his first Canadian media interview, with CBC Radio's The Current, since releasing his new book.

"The facts are what the facts are," said Bolton. "It's very clear what the purpose of the arrest was — it was not politically motivated at all and I'd be happy to testify under oath to that effect in a Canadian court."

Trump had little interest in the fine-grained details of charges Meng faces for allegedly skirting U.S. sanctions and viewed the case with far-ranging international implications in transactional terms, he said.



He writes in his book, The Room Where It Happened: A White House Memoir, that Trump even offered to reverse the Huawei prosecution last year.

Bolton, who became Trump's third national security adviser in April 2018 after an extensive career in Washington serving in Republican administrations since the 1980s, has depicted his former boss in the book as generally more consumed with how foreign policy objectives advanced his own cause for re-election than America's interests.

The U.S. wants to extradite Meng, the Huawei chief financial officer detained in B.C. on Dec. 1, 2018, to face allegations of fraud. She is accused of lying to banks about Huawei's relationship with a company that prosecutors claim was violating U.S. economic sanctions against Iran.

"It took a lot of effort to explain [to Trump] that Huawei and people involved in Huawei had committed financial fraud and very serious respects regarding violations of U.S. sanctions against Iran," Bolton told The Current in an interview that aired on Friday.

As it so happened, the very day Meng was taken into custody at Vancouver International Airport, Trump was enjoying face time with Chinese President Xi Jinping, at the G20 summit in Buenos Aires. Bolton writes in the book that the administration was tipped off about the possibility of an arrest the day before it happened.



Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou arrives at B.C. Supreme Court in Vancouver on Jan. 17, 2020. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

About a week later at a White House dinner, Bolton writes, Trump made what the national security adviser saw as a facile comparison between Meng and his own daughter Ivanka (Meng is the scion of Huawei's founder).


"He said to me at one point during the dinner, 'Do you realize you arrested the Ivanka Trump of China?' And I thought to myself, 'Gee, I never knew Ivanka was a spy,'" Bolton recalled.

It is among a number of anecdotes in the book where Bolton describes Trump as being unduly fascinated by trivial matters, including an incident where the president wondered extensively why Venezuelan politician Juan Guaido's wife wasn't wearing a wedding ring during a White House visit.

The specific details of the Huawei case didn't consume Trump, Bolton writes, and instead fell into what the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations describes as "the black-hole-of-trade phenomenon ... twisting all other issues around Trump's fascination with a big trade deal."
It was discouraging to allies, Bolton writes.

Willing to testify in extradition case

Not long after taking office, Trump embarked on a strategic goal of striking a wide-ranging trade deal with China, seeking to level the playing field after complaining of an asymmetry in the economic relationship. The wide-ranging effort has included punitive sanctions, though for the most part, the president has spoken warmly of his relationship with Xi.

"It was my view and I think the uniform view of the president's other advisers that this kind of criminal prosecution should not be used as a bargaining chip in trade negotiations," Bolton told The Current.


Trump had a "tendency to get involved in criminal prosecutions to give, effectively, personal favours to dictators he was trying to improve his relationship with," he said. Elsewhere in his book, Bolton depicts Trump telling Recep Tayyip Erdogan he would "take care of things" with respect to an ongoing U.S. probe of Turkey's Halkbank.

LISTEN: Bolton speaks with The Current's Matt Galloway about his new book


The Current
John Bolton on Trump & Trudeau, Huawei and the president's bid for re-election
U.S. President Donald Trump tried to block its release, but former National Security Advisor John Bolton's memoir, The Room Where It Happened: A White House Memoir, was published Tuesday. He spoke with The Current's Matt Galloway in his first Canadian interview. 21:37 


Despite an alleged Oval Office interference, Bolton maintains the case for Meng's extradition is strong and was unconcerned about a Politico report earlier this week claiming that her legal team will now cite his book in arguing that the charges she faces are part of a politically motivated pressure campaign on the Chinese.

Meng, who remains under house arrest in Vancouver, lost the first battle in her bid to avoid extradition but the process is expected to continue into 2021.

Canadian detentions arbitrary: Bolton

Within days of Meng being apprehended, Canadians Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor were picked up separately in China. After over a year of detention without charge, they have been formally accused of various spying charges that their families and legal teams strenuously deny.

Bolton said "all the evidence" points in the direction of politically motivated prosecution at the behest of the Communist Party.


"The Chinese have responded in an authoritarian fashion, they have arbitrarily arrested Canadian citizens," he said.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has ruled out the prospect of a swap that would see Meng go free and Kovrig and Spavor return home from China, arguing it would undermine respect for Canadian rule of law. A group of former government officials and politicians this week wrote an open letter calling on Justice Minister David Lametti to intervene in the case to affect such an outcome.

Bolton said in Friday's interview that while the relationship between Trump and Trudeau may be "frosty," at other levels of government, the bilateral relationship continues in a productive and respectful manner.



Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor have been in jail in China since December 2018, detained just days after Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Vancouver on behalf of American justice officials. Former U.S. national security adviser John Bolton says the Canadian government upheld its obligation to arrest Meng under its longstanding extradition treaty with the United States. 1:34


It has been assumed that were Joe Biden to emerge victorious in the election over Trump, there would be a reset at the top leading to more cordiality, given an overlap of over a year in which Trudeau appeared to enjoy a solid working relationship with the Democratic president Biden served under, Barack Obama.

As he has said previously this week in promoting his book, Bolton told The Current he will fill in the ballot on Nov. 3 with the name of someone he sees as a principled conservative, opting not to vote for either Trump or Biden.

Bolton left the White House on Sept. 10, 2019. The relationship with Trump soured due to fundamental disputes with the handling of major foreign policy issues with Iran, North Korea and Afghanistan.


Bolton not yet in the clear

The Trump administration sought to stop publication of The Room Where It Happened, arguing the book hadn't fully cleared a White House review process of potentially classified material.

Trump has called the book a "compilation of lies and made-up stories," while Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has been among those who served alongside Bolton who've also had harsh words for his decision to publish his book. Democrats continue to be aggrieved that Bolton chose to reveal details of Trump's dealings with Ukraine in print instead of testifying at a Senate impeachment trial in January, which ultimately saw the president acquitted.
While a federal judge last week cleared the way for the book to reach the general public — it had already made its way into the hands of reporters — he did have harsh words for Bolton's decision to push ahead with his publisher Simon & Schuster, arguing he potentially "stands to lose his profits from the book deal, exposes himself to criminal liability, and imperils national security."

Trump, in characteristically blunt language on Twitter evoking Bolton's reputation of a foreign policy hawk, seemed to promise legal ramifications after that ruling: "[Bolton] likes dropping bombs on people, and killing them. Now he will have bombs dropped on him!"


With files from Howard Goldenthal
 





https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-meng-wanzhou-prisoner-1.5626744


Trudeau rejects calls to release Meng Wanzhou

PM rejects calls from 19 prominent Canadians to set Meng free to secure the release of 2 Canadians


John Paul Tasker· CBC News· Posted: Jun 25, 2020 11:58 AM ET



Prime Minister Justin Trudeau listens to a question during a news conference outside Rideau Cottage in Ottawa. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dismissed out of hand calls from former parliamentarians and diplomats to release Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou and unilaterally end her extradition process — saying such a move would embolden China to detain other Canadians to further its political goals.

A group of 19 high-profile Canadians, including former foreign affairs ministers Lloyd Axworthy and Lawrence Cannon, penned a letter to Trudeau this week saying Justice Minister David Lametti should intervene to free Meng.

They said Meng's release would give Canada the chance to "redefine its strategic approach to China."

"There is no question that the U.S. extradition request has put Canada in a difficult position. As prime minister, you face a difficult decision. Complying with the U.S. request has greatly antagonized China," the letter says. CBC News obtained the letter Wednesday.
The letter writers said Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig are likely to languish in Chinese prison until Meng's extradition case is settled. The two Canadians were detained in China shortly after Meng​​​​ was detained in Vancouver in 2018.

Trudeau was definitive that Canada would not bow to Beijing to secure the freedom of these two men.

"I respect these distinguished Canadians who put forward that letter but I deeply disagree with them," Trudeau told reporters Thursday. "They're wrong in their approach."

Trudeau said he is sympathetic to the plight of Spavor and Kovrig — he called it a "terrible and trying situation"— but he said Canada can't let China get away with this sort of hostage diplomacy.


Watch: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau rejects calls to release Meng Wanzhou



Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke to reporters outside Rideau Cottage on Thursday. 2:57

He said countries shouldn't be allowed to snatch Canadians to get what they want from Ottawa.

"The reality is releasing Meng Wanzhou to resolve a short-term problem would endanger thousands of Canadians who travel to China and around the world by letting countries know that a government can have political influence over Canada by randomly arresting Canadians," Trudeau said.

Trudeau said his government is firmly committed to the rule of law and Meng's case will be handled by our justice system.

"We need to continue to be absolutely crystal clear that Canada has an independent judiciary and those processes will unfold independently of any political pressure, including by foreign governments," Trudeau said. "We deplore what China did."
When asked if he would consider levying sanctions on top Communist party officials — a dozen senators sent a letter yesterday urging such action— Trudeau said his government is open to any action against China that does not "endanger other Canadians in the future."

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said Trudeau's "weak leadership" and "policy appeasement" has made it difficult for Canada to get the two Michaels back.



Scheer said Trudeau should take a hard line against China by pulling Canadian money from the Chinese-controlled Asian Infrastructure Bank and ramping up inspections of Chinese exports.

"He's tried precisely nothing to improve Canada's position, to give us more leverage and to show the government of China that there are consequences to mistreating Canadians," Scheer said.

Scheer also said he agrees with the prime minister that Canada shouldn't hand over Meng as part of some sort of hostage swap.

"I don't believe that setting aside the rule of law is an appropriate response to two Canadians being detained illegally," Scheer told reporters.



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Freeing the two Michaels

Several Canadian legal experts say more can be done to free the two Michaels — Michael Spavor and Kovrig — who are detained in China. We speak with former Justice Minister Allan Rock who recently presented the government with a legal opinion that says the government can stop the extradition proceedings of Meng Wanzhou, and Charles Burton, senior fellow with the Macdonald Laurier Institute.
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Charles Burton is Associate Professor at Brock University specializing in Comparative Politics, Government and Politics of China, Canada-China Relations and Human Rights. He served as Counsellor at the Canadian Embassy to China between 1991-1993 and 1998-2000. Prior to coming to Brock, Charles worked at the Communications Security Establishment of the Canadian Department of National Defence.

He received a PhD in 1987 from the University of Toronto after studies at Cambridge University (Oriental Studies) and Fudan University (History of Ancient Chinese Thought Program, Department of Philosophy, class of '77). He was an Izaak Walton Killam Memorial Post-Doctoral Scholar in Political Science at University of Alberta, 1986-88.

He has published extensively on Chinese and North Korean affairs and Canada-China relations and has been commissioned to write reports on matters relating to Canada's relations with China for agencies of the Government of Canada. Charles is a frequent commentator on Chinese affairs in newspapers, radio and TV.


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Canada’s frosty relationship with China makes prof’s expertise hot commodity

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Associate Professor of Political Science Charles Burton is in high demand as an expert on Canada-China relations.

With Canada-China relations at an all-time low, demand for the expertise of Charles Burton, Brock University Associate Professor of Political Science, is sky high.

For months, Burton has been fielding calls and crossing oceans to consult with security and foreign policy agencies in Canada, Europe and elsewhere on “the threat of the foreign policies of the Government of the People’s Republic of China to sustaining a rules-based international order,” he says.

On March 25, Burton spoke to an audience of government and non-government security specialists at a counter-proliferation roundtable in Toronto about potential lessons Canada could learn from Australia’s new legislation on espionage and foreign interference.

In April, he flew to London at the invitation of the Government of the United Kingdom Cabinet Office Assessments Staff and the Canadian High Commission to participate in the Five Eyes Think Tank Dialogue. He spoke to an audience of security specialists from several countries on the China-Russia nexus.

The following week, the Canadian Embassy funded his participation in the Stratcom Summit in Prague, an invitation-only meeting of 150 security specialists from Europe and North America.

While in the Czech Republic, accompanied by the Ambassador of Canada to the Czech Republic and other Embassy officials, Burton briefed senior members of the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs on current Chinese economic relations with the West. He also met with political officers of several other embassies to the Czech Republic.

In addition to numerous consultations with international foreign policy officials, Burton’s calendar is packed with media requests, including interviews with Canadian outlets such at the CBC, CTV and TVO, along with The Financial Times, New York Times, and regular spots on American syndicated radio.

“His reputation for really insightful assessments of global developments has resulted in spiralling demands from national and international news media for his commentary,” said Kevin Cavanagh, Executive Director of University Marketing and Communications. “Charles understands why it is important to interpret issues on Canada-China relations in ways that are relevant to everyone from your next-door neighbour to the Prime Minister.”

On his most recent European trip, Burton was surprised by the number of people who knew him.
“I had no idea there were readers in diverse countries across the world, not to speak of course of Taiwan and Hong Kong, where you’d expect that kind of interest,” he says.

His fame is a function not only of syndication and social media, but also of the seriousness of his subject.

Governments throughout the world, including in Ottawa, are increasingly concerned about the “enormous impact” of China’s global influence, Burton says.

“I think my body of work over the years is becoming more recognized now because it had a sort of predictive value which is now coming to the fore,” he says. “People who previously might have dismissed some of my research are now interested in having me involved in advising them.”

Burton, who maintains homes in both China and Canada, has never shied away from critiquing the Chinese government. But, he says, the strained China-Canada relationship means that he “certainly won’t be going back this summer.”

Burton says former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig was arrested in China and “is being interrogated on matters to which he became privy to during the course of his diplomatic service.”
Burton, who has also worked as a diplomat, was “given a recommendation that it wouldn’t be a good idea to go back.” He worries about other Canadians living in the country.

“The Chinese government’s behaviour is becoming so arbitrary, it’s hard to predict,” he says.
“The idea of someone like me being arrested by state security, this I can understand, I’m sort of involved in it,” he says. “But Canadians who are there just for doing good, getting caught up in it, really makes me feel much more morally outraged than people like me who have chosen to become involved in the struggle.”

Burton counts himself among a small number of China specialists who are prepared to criticize the regime.

“The other option is to hold back and not enter into the public debate on China,” he says. “If people understand things that are causing trouble in our relationship with China and don’t dare speak up, I think that would be more damaging to Canada’s interests.”

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43rd Parliament, 1st Session
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Monday, February 24, 2020, 10:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.

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• Phil Calvert, Senior Fellow, China Institute, University of Alberta (by videoconference: Toronto, Ontario)
• Paul Evans, Professor, School of Public Policy and Global Affairs, University of British Columbia (by videoconference: Singapore, Singapore)

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• Jeremy Paltiel, Professor, Department of Political Science, Carleton University
• Yves Tiberghien, Professor, Department of Political Science, and Faculty Associate, School of Public Policy and Global Affairs, University of British Columbia (by videoconference: Vancouver, British Columbia)
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• Sharon Zhengyang Sun, Trade Policy Economist, Trade and Investment Centre
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Canada’s continuing to do nothing in response to China’s violations of the accepted norms of international diplomacy and trade will not sustain the status quo in our deteriorating relations with China and will certainly not allow us to see movement in achieving the release of Celil, Spavor and Kovrig, explains Charles Burton. 

By Charles Burton, February 25, 2020
The following remarks were prepared by MLI Senior Fellow Charles Burton as evidence to present before the House of Commons Special Committee on Canada-China Relations meeting which convened on February 24, 2020. The full video of those proceedings, including Burton's remarks, is available here. 
***
Good morning. It is such an honour for me to be invited to give evidence to the House of Commons Special Committee on Canada-China Relations.

I have read all the evidence from the Committee’s meetings numbers 3, 4 and 5 that were sent to me by your Clerk of the Committee. All of this evidence was given by senior Canadian Government civil servants explaining to the Committee how they implement Canadian government policy.

This morning I would like to highlight important factors in the Canada-China relationship that I was disappointed to see omitted in the earlier evidence, assertions made that I interpret differently, and, finally, some recommendations that I have for the Government of Canada on how to much more effectively further Canada’s interests in our relations with China.

Let me say, first of all, that as is the case for many Canadian families, Chinese, not English or French, is the language of my home. In my youth, I read a lot of classical Chinese texts in their original Chinese. More than 40 years ago, I had the extraordinary privilege of being admitted into the History of Ancient Chinese Thought Program in the Department of Philosophy at Fudan University in Shanghai.

Because of this, I was taken aback by something I read in the evidence that the Committee was given by a senior Canadian Government official who said, and I quote, the Chinese “place an importance on the values of collectivism and harmony, owing to a Confucian heritage. Understanding the extent to which China values unity and the needs of society at large, rather than freedom of individual choice...we just have to understand that. That's where they're coming from” and elaborated later as “some elements of collectivism and harmony are at odds with individual rights. They're different.”
Let me point out, this assertion by our Ambassador is consistent with the official propaganda of the Chinese Communist Party under General-Secretary Xi Jinping. The CCP upholds its political legitimacy by claiming that China’s traditional culture demands non-democratic single Party autocratic rule in this modern age.

I could not disagree more with this interpretation, and certainly it is utterly refuted by the vibrant democracies based on respect for human rights and rule of law existing today in Taiwan and South Korea.

But the troubling question for me is this: does Canada’s acceptance that “China values unity and the needs of society at large, rather than freedom of individual choice,” mean that Canada will stand idly by in the face of the horrendous and massive program of cultural genocide against the Uyghurs and other Turkic Muslims in China who are confined to so-called “re-education camps” where they are not permitted to practice their religion at any time over their years of incarceration?”

The fact is that Canada has put the names of officials from Sudan, Russia, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia on our Justice for Victims of Corrupt Foreign Officials Act (or, Magnitsky Sanction) list. But in sharp contrast, no Chinese officials complicit in the persecution of Tibetans, Uyghurs, Falun Gong and Chinese Christians have been designated. This sends out a strong signal to the PRC regime. That signal is that hostage diplomacy and arbitrary imposition of trade sanctions against Canada is a policy that works. Our lack of any substantive response to this emboldens them to do more of it in future.

The evidence given by our civil servants in the previous meetings of this Committee repeats over and over the formula that Canada’s priority in China relations is “the immediate release of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor, as well as clemency for Robert Schellenberg.” But in response to questioning, one of the officials indicated “there are two Canadians—Mr. Schellenberg and Mr. Fan Wei—whose charges on the death penalty are public and available.”

So why is the focus on Kovrig, Spavor and Schellenberg, three Canadians of non-Chinese origin, to the exclusion of our Canadians Huseyin Celil and Fan Wei? I judge that is certainly deeply troubling to all Canadians formerly resident in the PRC prior to becoming Canadian citizens and joining our national family.

Do we also thereby tacitly accept the Chinese Government’s claim that persons of Chinese origin in Canada have an obligation of residual loyalty to the Chinese state regardless of their Canadian citizenship? Is that why the serious problem of Chinese state harassment of persons of mainland-Chinese origin in Canada, in gross violation of the protections of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, is essentially unaddressed by our Government?

Let me conclude my remarks by way of providing recommendations that I have for the Government of Canada on how to much more effectively further Canada’s interests in our relations with China
The PRC regime’s flouting of the standards of international diplomacy is, without question, becoming more and more blatant as the years go on. Just last week the Czech Government President’s office acknowledged the leak of a communication received by that office from the PRC Embassy in Prague. In it, the Government of the PRC threatens that if the Speaker of the Czech Parliament travels to Taiwan as planned, then three Czech companies with extensive business in China would be punished, including the famous Petrov piano factory.

So unlike the PRC sanctions against our canola, which is falsely accused of having severe impurities in its dockage, there is no longer any pretense in this Czech case that there is any legitimate basis for the PRC’s threat of trade retaliation if a nation does not comply with the PRC’s political agenda. The companies menaced were chosen simply because they have ties to politically influential people in Prague.

Taiwan has a national Government utterly in control of its territory fully legitimated by a liberal democratic election process. Why shouldn’t the Czech speaker go there?

The fact is, Canada has lost the respect of the Chinese regime by our non-action in response to their outrages against us. It is high time for us to kick back by retaliating especially on China’s persistent illegal imports into Canada of the noxious drug, fentanyl.

Canada’s external trade with China is about 4.7% of our exports at present and is mostly primary commodities which can be sold easily elsewhere in the global market. In the unlikely event China decided to block us from access to their market further in response, the consequences would be highly disruptive to certain sectors. Those sectors would need compensation, but not as severe as some people who speak in support of China would make out.

But Canada’s continuing to do nothing in response to China’s violations of the accepted norms of international diplomacy and trade will not sustain the status quo in our deteriorating relations with China and will certainly not allow us to see movement in achieving the release of Celil, Spavor and Kovrig.

Finally let me conclude by mentioning that a report by my friend Anne-Marie Brady to New Zealand’s Parliamentary Inquiry on Foreign Interference details the Chinese Communist Party’s massive scheme of enticing foreign politicians, academics and business people to promote China’s agenda through political lobbying, the media and academia. Besides offering business opportunities or free trips to China, using bribery or honey traps and so on, there are also “consultancies” in which prominent advisers pocket up to $150,000 per annum just for being affiliated with PRC entities. So long as the foreign adviser promotes relations with China on PRC terms, the money keeps coming.
Australia’s 2018 Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme Act should be examined carefully by this Committee. Canada needs to come to terms with Chinese money benefiting Canadian political campaigns and rewarding Canadian politicians and public servants who are seen as “friends of China.”

Mr. Chair, I welcome vigorous and challenging questioning from members of the Committee about what I have said above and anything else I can speak to on Canada-China relations.

There are many very important topics that I have been unable to address in this short statement. I do regret that.

Thank you.

Charles Burton is associate professor of political science at Brock University, senior fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute’s Centre for Advancing Canada’s Interests Abroad, and former counsellor at the Canadian embassy in Beijing.






https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/letter-release-meng-1.5625669


Former parliamentarians, diplomats pen letter calling on Canada to release Meng

Citing a legal opinion, signatories say Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou should be released


John Paul Tasker, Brennan MacDonald· CBC News· Posted: Jun 24, 2020 5:00 PM ET




The federal government is facing increased pressure to intervene in the extradition case of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou, including a letter signed by 19 former politicians and diplomats, in hopes action will prompt China to free Canadians Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor.  2:39

A group of high-profile Canadians, including former parliamentarians and senior diplomats, say Justice Minister David Lametti should end extradition proceedings for Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou to give Canada a chance to "re-define its strategic approach to China."

In a letter to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dated June 23, the signatories say Canada has the legal right to intervene to free Meng and end the extradition trial that could send her to the U.S. They cite a legal opinion published earlier this week by Toronto-based lawyer Brian Greenspan.

"There is no question that the U.S. extradition request has put Canada in a difficult position. As prime minister, you face a difficult decision. Complying with the U.S. request has greatly antagonized China," the letter says.

The 19 signatories say that releasing Meng could also free Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor, the two Canadians who were detained in China shortly after Meng's arrest.

"Removing the pressures of the extradition proceeding and the related imprisonment of the two Michaels will clear the way for Canada to freely decide and declare its position on all aspects of the Canada-China relationship."

CBC's Power & Politics obtained a copy of the letter Wednesday.
The signatories say Kovrig and Spavor are being held in conditions "tantamount to torture" and Meng's years-long extradition process could spell trouble for the Canadians as delays will "add immeasurably to the stress that they are under."

"The two Michaels were taken in direct retaliation for the arrest in Canada of Meng Wanzhou. We believe that the two Michaels will remain in their Chinese prison cells until Meng is free to return to China," the letter says.


A woman holds an anti-CCP sign outside of Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou’s hearing at the BC Supreme Court in Vancouver, British Columbia on Monday, May 27, 2020. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

The letter has been signed by former Supreme Court justice Louise Arbour, former Liberal foreign affairs minister Lloyd Axworthy, former Conservative foreign affairs minister Lawrence Cannon, former Conservative senator Hugh Segal and former NDP leader Ed Broadbent, among others.


The signatories say Lametti should set aside concerns about the rule of law — specifically Canada's obligations under its extradition agreement with the U.S. — and politically intervene to end the B.C. court proceedings that involve Meng.

"We contend that the time is past due for the minister to do just that: to end the Meng extradition proceeding and to bring the two Michaels home."

In 1999, the Extradition Act was amended to include a specific provision that gives the federal minister of justice the power to intervene in an extradition at any point during the judicial phase.

"The minister has the right to withdraw the authority to proceed and to end the extradition proceeding, and it's totally at the discretion of the minister of justice," Greenspan said in an interview with CBC News Tuesday.

"The question isn't whether the [Canadian government] can, the question is whether they should."
Robert Fowler, a former diplomat who was held hostage by al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb in 2008-09, also signed the letter.


In an interview with CBC News, Fowler said he signed the letter because he wants to do everything he possibly can to bring the Michaels home.

He said the world is "nastier and meaner" and rules-based systems aren't as effective as they once were in controlling the kind of behaviour China exhibits.

"I think we've got to bend every effort to bring these guys home," he said. "Make concessions. It's an imperfect world ... it's not a good idea to pay ransom, that said, you do what you've got to do to look after your people," he said.

Critics maintain such an intervention would be a "dangerous game to play" as it would send the wrong message to the Americans — namely that Canada is willing to succumb to Chinese political pressure and hostage diplomacy.

"I think the first responsibility of a government is to look after the health and safety of its citizens and foreign policy is not simply about making nice to Donald Trump," Fowler said.

The call to free Meng also comes on a day when a dozen Canadian senators are calling on Ottawa to take a harder line with China and impose sanctions on top Communist Party officials in response to what they call "tyrannical behaviour" by the regime.



But the letter writers say freeing Meng and securing the release of Kovrig and Spavor "would untie Canada's hands" as the extradition hearings are "hobbling Canada's foreign policy at a time when it is crucial to define it with clarity and boldness."

With Kovrig and Spavor in Chinese custody, Trudeau has been reluctant to criticize the Communist regime in Beijing even as it has been accused of human rights violations through the detention of Uighur Muslims and the crackdown on democratic rights in Hong Kong.

A B.C. court judged ruled late last month that the U.S. allegation against Meng — that she engaged in fraud by misrepresenting Huawei's relationship with an Iranian telecommunications company when seeking a loan from the HSBC bank — could also be considered a crime in Canada, and so extradition proceedings against the Huawei executive should proceed.

Under Canadian extradition law, an individual may only be extradited to face trial on foreign charges if the underlying conduct would amount to a criminal offence in Canada if it had happened here.
Meng's case now moves to another phase, where a separate judge will decide whether Meng should be extradited. The final decision to surrender the Chinese executive to the U.S. will fall to Lametti.
Greenspan has suggested Lametti could intervene now before a judge has a chance to rule.

The signatories say Canada inevitably would face blowback from the U.S., the country's largest trading partner and closest ally, if it decides to end the extradition process — but they suggest the relationship can endure that sort of diplomatic fracas.

"It would not be the first time that Canada has parted ways with the U.S., including on much more momentous issues, such as refusing to join in their invasion of Iraq. Our strong bilateral relationship survived all of those controversies," the letter says.

The letter was signed by Arbour, Axworthy, Cannon, Broadbent, Segal, former ambassador to the U.S. Derek Burney, former associate deputy minister of Finance Wendy Dobson, former ambassador to Japan and Korea Leonard J. Edwards, former permanent representative to the UN and UN Security Council Yves Fortier, former foreign policy adviser Robert Fowler, former UN deputy secretary general Louise Frechette, Executive Director, World Refugee & Migration Council Fen Hampson, former ambassador to Germany and permanent representative to the UN and UN Security Council Paul Heinbecker, former ambassador to the U.S. Michael Kergin, former PMO foreign policy adviser Claude Laverdure, former journalist and broadcaster Don Newman, former president of the International Development Research Centre Maureen O'Neil, former foreign affairs and international development minister Andre Ouellet and former minister of justice and attorney general Allan Rock.


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Senators call for Magnitsky Act sanctions on Chinese officials to punish 'tyrannical behaviour'

Trudeau has been reluctant to criticize China — but some of his Senate picks are calling for sanctions


John Paul Tasker· CBC News· Posted: Jun 24, 2020 3:03 PM ET



This photo taken on June 4, 2019 shows the Chinese flag behind razor wire at a housing compound in Yangisar, south of Kashgar, in China's western Xinjiang region. A group of Canadian senators is calling for sanctions against top Chinese officials in response to human rights violations by the regime in Beijing. (Greg Baker/AFP via Getty Images)

More than a dozen senators — including several appointed by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau — are calling on the federal government to impose sanctions on Chinese officials for "gross violations of human rights and fundamental freedoms."

In a June 23 letter addressed to Trudeau jointly written by Conservative Sens. Thanh Hai Ngo and Leo Housakos and co-signed by 11 others, the parliamentarians say Canada should take a stand against China.

Citing China's detention of Uighur Muslims, its crackdown on democratic rights in Hong Kong, its decades-long repression of Tibet and its imprisonment of Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig, the senators describe the regime in Beijing as the "biggest threat to mankind and a danger to international security."

The senators say the best way for Canada to respond to China's "tyrannical behaviour" is to levy sanctions on top Communist Party officials using the Sergei Magnitsky Law. The law allows the government to impose financial and other restrictions on foreign nationals responsible for, or complicit in, violating internationally recognized human rights.

The law also allows the government to freeze assets owned by foreign nationals and prohibit financial transactions by known human rights abusers. The law is named after Russian tax adviser Sergei Magnitsky, who was tortured and died in a Moscow prison after documenting fraud in Russia.
Canada has used the legislation to sanction human rights abusers from Russia and Venezuela, preventing them from using the Canadian banking system.

In November 2018, Canada sanctioned 17 Saudi nationals who were responsible for, or complicit in, the torture and death of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

"Unfortunately, the PRC's tyrannical behaviour towards Hong Kongers, Uighurs and other Muslim Minorities is just the latest in a continued pattern that has become an extremely dangerous habit as it is constantly and mercilessly perpetrating horrendous and utterly inhuman acts towards other groups," the senators say in their letter.
"Now, more for than ever, the time has come for the government to firmly stand up for these values and take concrete action by imposing Magnitsky sanctions."


Last fall, a leak of internal Chinese government documents to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) painted a stark picture of Uighur concentration camps, which have been built across the Xinjiang region over the past three years.

The Muslim minority is routinely subjected to intrusive government surveillance, intimidating phone calls and even death threats, according to Amnesty International.

A recent report by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute found that thousands of Muslims have been used as forced labour in factories that supply companies like BMW, Nike and Huawei, among others.

China's ambassador to Canada has called these camps — where as many as one million ethnic Muslims are subjected to compulsory ideological lessons under the watchful eye of party officials — "vocational training centres."


Chinese Ambassador to Canada Cong Peiwu speaks as part of a panel at the Ottawa Conference on Security and Defence in Ottawa, March 4, 2020. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)

The National People's Congress, China's rubber-stamp Communist-controlled parliament, also has said it will introduce a national security and anti-sedition law in Hong Kong. The law would do away with the city's independent legal system and allow Beijing to override local laws.

The senators say China's Hong Kong policy is a clear violation of its international obligations under the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration, which guaranteed a "one country, two systems" framework following the handover of Hong Kong from Britain to China.


"Canada, as a member state of the UN, along with the international community, has an interest and a responsibility to defend the international rules-based order," the senators write.
The letter adds that Canadian citizens also have been targeted by the regime's "overreach and despotism," both abroad — with the "illegal detainment of our brave Canadians" — and at home, where Chinese Canadians opposed to the Communist dictatorship face "harassment and intimidation" from organizations like the United Front.

Independent Sen. Marilou McPhedran is one of four Trudeau appointees who signed the letter.

In a speech Tuesday, she said China proved itself to be a bad actor through the establishment of the Uighur concentration camps, its violent crackdown on protests in Hong Kong, its arrests of human rights observers and allegations of forced organ transplantation.

"Can we just pause for a moment and hear what I'm about to say? We are talking about organs inside people's bodies forcibly and surgically removed from live prisoners of conscience," she said, citing research from the China Tribunal, an independent judicial investigation based in the United Kingdom.

Trudeau has been reluctant to publicly criticize China with Kovrig and Spavor still imprisoned there and facing espionage charges.


Trudeau said last week he was "disappointed" by China's move to formally charge the two men with spying. He said Canada would continue to work "behind the scenes in very direct and firm ways" to secure their release.

Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said she was "heartbroken and really angry" over the development.

Asked Tuesday at a Commons committee if Canada would impose sanctions, Foreign Affairs Minister François-Philippe Champagne dodged the question, saying, "Canada is on the forefront of human rights around the world."

Progressive Sen. Jim Munson, a former journalist who covered the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests, said he has respect for Trudeau and the challenges he faces during this diplomatic fracas, "but I think somewhere along the line there has to be more than just saying we're disappointed."

"We have to stand up to the bully," Munson said in a speech to the Senate Tuesday. "If we don't stand up, who will stand up for what takes place in China?

"I know the government has raised the human rights issue at every opportunity, but it doesn't seem to be working. China has shown that it will not listen to reason or to allies. It is playing games with people's freedoms and precious lives. Beijing needs to be held accountable for the abuses."

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The Canadian government can intervene to end Meng's extradition trial. Should it?

Extradition Act allows justice minister to intervene at any point during judicial phase



Mark Gollom, Olivia Stefanovich· CBC News· Posted: Jun 23, 2020 8:25 PM ET



Any decision on the fate of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou, currently awaiting a decision on extradition from Canada, is going to have political fallout. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

While seasoned jurists say the Canadian government has every legal right to intervene to free Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou from her extradition trial to the U.S., some experts warn such an action could have significant political ramifications.

"The question isn't whether the [Canadian government] can, the question is whether they should," said Toronto-based lawyer Brian Greenspan.

In 1999, the Extradition Act was amended to include a specific provision that provides the federal minister of justice the power to intervene in an extradition at any point during the judicial phase.

"The minister has the right to withdraw the authority to proceed and to end the extradition proceeding, and it's totally at the discretion of the minister of justice," Greenspan said.


WATCH | Chinese Foreign Ministry comments on CBC interview with Michael Kovrig's wife



Zhao Lijian said China supports a move that would stop the extradition of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou  3:06
Extradition proceedings continue in the case against Meng, who was arrested in 2018 in Vancouver on behalf of American justice officials. The United States wants to prosecute Meng for fraud, alleging she lied to banks about her company's connections with Iran, which could possibly violate U.S. sanctions.

The issue of the Canadian government intervening in the case of Meng, the daughter of the Chinese technology giant's founder, was raised recently by the wife of Michael Kovrig, one of two Canadians being held in China on charges of spying.


Michael Spavor, left, and former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig are in Chinese custody. Both have been charged with spying. (The Associated Press/International Crisis Group/The Canadian Press)
 
The Trudeau government has accused China of detaining Kovrig and Michael Spavor in retaliation for the arrest of Meng. Some have suggested Canada could secure their freedom if it put an end to the extradition proceedings against Meng and allowed her to return to China.

Trudeau has said his government continues to work behind the scenes to secure the release of the two Canadians but has ruled out a prisoner exchange.



Still in custody

The Office of the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, David Lametti, said in a statement Tuesday they are "well aware of the laws and processes governing" the extradition proceedings.

"As Ms. Meng's case remains before the courts, and the Minister of Justice has a direct role in the extradition process, it would not be appropriate to comment further on this matter," the statement said.

WATCH | Canada can stop Meng Wanzhou's extradition, legal experts say. Should it?


Canadian legal experts Louise Arbour and Brian Greenspan say the federal government has the authority to intervene in Meng Wanzhou’s extradition process, but what’s less clear is whether it should and what intervening could mean for the detention of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor. 4:38

Former Supreme Court of Canada justice John Major said while Lametti can intervene at any time in the extradition process, it would be unusual — especially if after a prolonged court hearing, it concluded in favour of extradition.

But Major noted there may be reasons to do it, especially as Kovrig and Spavor languish in Chinese detention.

"I would hope before the attorney general intervenes, [he] would have reasons that convince Canadians he should," Major told CBC News.


"The attorney general has to be very cautious in overruling a trial judge who has conducted a full hearing … You just want [Lametti] to act judiciously, not politically."

'Be very cautious'

Major said Canada is stuck in a difficult position, because if the attorney general quashes the judge's decision in Meng's case, the U.S. could react. Likewise, if the judge approves extradition, China could retaliate.

Legal experts say Attorney General David Lametti could intervene at any time in Meng's extradition case. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

"It's a delicate situation where you have the U.S. at odds with China and Canada being caught in the middle," Major said.

Donald Abelson, director of St. Francis Xavier University's Brian Mulroney Institute of Government, said he believes it would be "a very dangerous game for Canada to play in terms of succumbing to pressure" to intervene politically in the case.

"I don't think that's a game that we want to play," said Abelson, who was also a founding director of the Canada-U.S. Institute. "It puts us in a very, very precarious position because we don't want to be seen by the Americans as succumbing to Chinese political pressure."

Abelson said Canada would be "tempting fate" with the U.S, particularly in the current political climate, where the Chinese government has become the focus of Donald Trump's ire in terms of the COVID-19 pandemic and the countries' trade war.


Abelson said Canada doesn't want to become a "punching bag" for Washington.

WATCH | Wife of Michael Kovrig says Canada can choose to end the extradition process:

 
Michael Kovrig’s wife (though separated) Vina Nadjibulla speaks for the first time in an exclusive interview with Adrienne Arsenault about his detention, Canada’s diplomacy and her fears for the future. Nadjibulla also shares letters Kovrig has sent during his 560 days in a Chinese prison. 13:23

Diplomatic gloves come off

David Carment, a a professor at Carleton University's Norman Paterson School of International Affairs, said he believes Canada's intervention would prompt the Trump administration to use it as a rallying cry to undermine Trudeau's leadership and his pursuit for a majority government when he calls an election.

"I think all sort of diplomatic gloves would come off in this case. The United States would come out fighting and work to undermine this current government's mandate," he said.

Christopher Sands, director of the Centre for Canadian Studies at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, said that the state department officials who brought the case forward against Meng would be unhappy with Canada's decision to intervene.

Trump would likely be angry, send off a dismissive tweet or give Trudeau the cold shoulder at the next G7 meeting. But Sands doesn't believe it would result in major policy ramifications against Canada.

"Would it be 'Canadians are no longer allowed to cross the border?' No. The relationship between us and Canada is too big and complex for that," he said. "I can't see any lasting damage."

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Ottawa could do more to free 2 Canadians jailed in China, Michael Kovrig's wife says

Kovrig and Michael Spavor have been detained in China for 560 days


CBC News· Posted: Jun 22, 2020 5:00 PM ET



Michael Kovrig’s wife (though separated) Vina Nadjibulla speaks for the first time in an exclusive interview with Adrienne Arsenault about his detention, Canada’s diplomacy and her fears for the future. Nadjibulla also shares letters Kovrig has sent during his 560 days in a Chinese prison. 13:23

Watch Adrienne Arsenault's exclusive interview with Vina Nadjibulla on The National tonight at 9 p.m. ET on CBC News Network, 10 p.m. ET on CBC Television, and on cbcnews.ca.

The government could be doing more to get Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig out of jail in China, according to the latter's wife.

Vina Nadjibulla told The National's Adrienne Arsenault on Monday that the year-and-a-half long ordeal has reached a point where "words are no longer enough."

"We as Canadians, as a Canadian government, have to take action to bring him home," Nadjibulla said.

Kovrig and Spavor have been in jail in China since December 2018, detained just days after Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Vancouver on behalf of American justice officials, who alleged the daughter of the Chinese technology giant's founder had broken U.S. sanctions on doing business with Iran.

WATCH | Nadjibulla tells CBC News she gets angry and frustrated at times:



Vina Nadjibulla tells The National's Adrienne Arsenault that the safety and well-being of her husband, Michael Kovrig, who has been detained in China for a year and a half, is foremost in her mind. 0:41

Meng remains in B.C. under house arrest, after losing a ruling last month in her ongoing fight against the U.S. extradition order.

Nadjibulla, who is separated from her husband, said that she has obtained a legal opinion in Canada which confirmed Ottawa can end the extradition process within the rule of law and without any judicial interference.

"The minister [of justice] can act. Whether the minister should act is a second question. And that is a conversation we should be having instead of hiding behind," she said.



Last week, Chinese authorities charged Kovrig with suspicion of spying for state secrets and intelligence, and formally accused Spavor of spying for a foreign entity and illegally providing state secrets.

"In the absence of letting them go they had to take this [legal] step, and they have. The situation remains the same — they are innocent," said Nadjibulla.


WATCH | Nadjibulla says Canada can choose to end the extradition process:



Vina Nadjibulla, wife of Canadian Michael Kovrig, who is detained in China, says there is more Canada could do to get both him and fellow detainee Michal Spavor, released. 1:46

But, she said, it was "still heartbreaking," given that Kovrig is been languishing in a single cell in what he has described in letters to her and the rest of his family as a "concrete desert." Earlier, he had been subjected to solitary confinement.

"Basically he has been confined to a single cell this entire time. He has not gone outside. He has not seen a tree or had fresh air to breathe for 560 days," said Nadjibulla.
This is about Canada and Canadian lives that are in harm's way.
- Vina Nadjibulla
Nadjibulla, who grew up in Afghanistan and was once kidnapped, said that particular experience has given her "a unique window, a tiny window" to be able to understand his plight in the letters they've exchanged.


While Nadjibulla praised the Liberal government and Canadian officials in China for working "tirelessly" on Kovrig's behalf within days of apprehension, she believes there's more that could be done.

"This is about Canada and Canadian lives that are in harm's way. I am interested in Canada and Canadians standing up for Canadians and Canadian values."

She says this is not about being tough and standing up to China.

"I'm interested in us being strong, but not antagonistic.  We cannot win a race to the bottom with China, we cannot become aggressive and confrontational because confrontation is not a strategy."

Beijing denies connection

Kovrig had been serving as a senior adviser for North East Asia for the International Crisis Group since February 2017, having previously worked for the Canadian mission at the United Nations.

The think-tank decried the charges last week as "groundless, indefensible, and sadly unsurprising."


"Today's charges change nothing to our resolve to secure Michael's release and to our hope and expectation that he will soon be reunited with loved ones," Crisis Group chief executive officer Robert Malley said.

Nadjibulla, who says she once worked in China, said that after the initial shock wore off in December 2018 "it wasn't hard to put two and two together" that his detention could be connected to Meng's arrest.

WATCH | Chinese officials deny charges are linked to Meng arrest:


Freelance reporter Patrick Fok pressed China's Foreign Ministry spokesperson over perceived connections between Meng Wanzhou's extradition case and espionage charges against jailed Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig.  2:45

Beijing has denied the charges against the two men are related, earning derision from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during a Monday news conference.

"Within the very first few days of the detention of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor, Chinese officials were highlighting a link between the detention a week before of Meng and the arrest of the two Michaels."

WATCH | Trudeau says China has always linked the two cases:



Prime Minister Justin Trudeau explains the plight of Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig and how China linked their arrest to the detention of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou. 1:10

U.S. 'stands with Canada': Pompeo

Trudeau reaffirmed when asked by a reporter that the government would not consider some kind of swap to free either man for Meng, characterizing such a move as representing a "weakening" of Canadian values and the Canadian justice system.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Monday that the U.S. "stands with Canada," in the wake of the charges against Kovrig and Spavor.

"These charges are politically motivated and completely groundless," Pompeo said in a statement.

The European Union also issued a new statement on Monday, calling for the end of their "arbitrary detention" and that of a Swedish citizen also jailed in China.

WATCH | China scolds Canada for 'double standard' over judicial independence



Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson complains Canada and the U.S. are trying to interfere in China's judicial system in the cases of Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig. 2:51

"There really is a coalition of support and solidarity" for Kovrig and Spavor, Nadjibulla said.

Until Nadjibulla gets word Kovrig and Spavor are on a plane leaving China, she says she will keep fighting for their release.

"I don't spend a ton of time blaming or getting angry," she said. "A time for that may come, but this is not that time."

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Pompeo calls on China to release two Michaels, says U.S. stands with Canada

The two men were arrested in December 2018, nine days after Canada detained Meng Wanzhou

 
 
In this June 11, 2020, file photo, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo speaks at the State Department in Washington. Pompeo is calling on China to release two Canadian men that he says face “groundless” charges of spying. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Yuri Gripas/Pool via AP
 
U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is calling on China to release two Canadian men that he says face “groundless” charges of spying.

Chinese authorities announced the charges against Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor on Friday, after they had spent more than 550 days in prison without access to lawyers or family.

Since January, China has prevented Canadian diplomats from visiting Kovrig and Spavor, citing COVID-19 restrictions.

The two men were arrested in December 2018, nine days after Canada detained Chinese high-tech scion Meng Wanzhou on an American extradition warrant.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Friday Chinese authorities “directly linked” Meng’s case with Kovrig’s and Spavor’s, and reiterated the government’s long held position that China has “arbitrarily detained” them.

Pompeo says the U.S. is deeply concerned by China’s decision to formally charge Kovrig and Spavor.
“These charges are politically motivated and completely groundless. The United States stands with Canada in calling on Beijing for the immediate release of the two men and rejects the use of these unjustified detentions to coerce Canada,” Pompeo said in a statement on Monday.

“Additionally, we echo Canada’s call for immediate consular access to its two citizens, in accordance with the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, as China has prohibited such access for almost six months, and the world has no knowledge of the two Canadians’ condition.”

READ MORE: China charges ‘two Michaels’ with spying in Huawei-linked case

Meng, the chief financial officer of Huawei Technologies, is living in luxury Vancouver home while her extradition hearing wends its way through a British Columbia court.

The United States wants to prosecute Meng for fraud, alleging she lied to banks in Hong Kong about her company’s connections with Iran, which could possibly violate U.S. sanctions.

A spokesman for China’s foreign ministry said Monday that his country does not arbitrarily detain people, and that Trudeau’s Friday remarks were “irresponsible.”

Last month, the B.C. Supreme Court judge ruled the allegations against Meng could constitute a crime in Canada. That meant Meng’s case remains before the court, unresolved.

Last week, Meng’s lawyers accused the Americans of misleading the B.C. court and said they are seeking a stay in the proceedings.

Mike Blanchfield, The Associated Press



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Trump dislikes Trudeau and once ordered staff to attack him on TV, Bolton book alleges

Bolton describes tense G7 meeting in Canada


Alexander Panetta· CBC News· Posted: Jun 19, 2020 2:22 PM ET



Left: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Right: U.S. President Donald Trump. (Patrick Doyle/Reuters, Patrick Semansky/The Associated Press)


U.S. President Donald Trump does not like Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and once personally instructed his staff to attack him in television interviews, former White House official John Bolton alleges in his new book.

In his soon-to-be-released memoir, The Room Where It Happened, Bolton recounts the leaders' notorious dustup at the G7 conference in Quebec in 2018.

The tension at the meeting was widely known at the time, given Trump's move to impose broad tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, including products from allied countries like Canada.


Bolton, the former White House national security adviser, said the president had negative feelings about the leaders of Canada and France. In his book, he describes the unusual interpersonal dynamics of their meetings.


Then-U.S. national security adviser John Bolton watches as Trump gives a news briefing at the G7 summit in Charlevoix, Que., in 2018. (Leah Millis/Reuters)


"Trump didn't really like either Macron or Trudeau," Bolton writes. "But he tolerated them, mockingly crossing swords with them in meetings, kidding on the straight.

"I assume they understood what he was doing, and they responded in kind, playing along because it suited their interests not to be in a permanent tiff with the U.S. president."

Inside that infamous G7 meeting

Bolton offers an insider account of one well-known flareup at the end of that G7 meeting.
The leaders were struggling to hammer out a closing communiqué at the conference.

At one point, Bolton writes, Trump's then-chief of staff John Kelly called for Bolton to join the prolonged haggling session — where the problems in the meeting were quickly made clear.


Bolton writes the chief of staff walked out as he was walking in, saying, "This is a disaster."

Bolton quickly concurred — he says Trump seemed tired, yet Macron and Trudeau were aggressively pushing the president to accept policy provisions he disagreed with.
 

G7 leaders huddle at the opening of the conference in Charlevoix in 2018. (PMO via REUTERS)


He says he couldn't tell if Trump was playing hardball with them. But he did conclude the president had not prepared for the G7 meeting and didn't understand the issues.

Both the White House and Trudeau's office declined to comment on Bolton's book.

Another official present at that G7 meeting told CBC News today that Bolton's account is accurate, although the leaders' meeting itself was quite cordial.

He did agree with Bolton that the U.S. president appeared to have arrived at the summit unaware of the issues.


Iran and climate change

And he said Bolton was correct in his description of deep policy disagreements at the summit — especially on the Iran nuclear deal and climate change. After some compromises, both of those issues made it into the communiqué in a watered-down form.

The official also said Bolton himself pushed back against the idea of referring to the importance of preserving the rules-based international order in the communique.

Bolton writes that once the communiqué was drafted, "we were done with the G7, I thought."
That assumption proved to be premature.

The attack order on Trudeau

On a subsequent flight to Asia to meet with the leader of North Korea, Trump erupted in rage when he learned that Trudeau had once again complained about the U.S. tariffs at the closing news conference.

Trump then fired off tweets withdrawing support for the G7 communiqué — an action Bolton describes as unprecedented.


He said the president woke up Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to "throw a fit" about Trudeau's closing press conference.


 

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
PM Justin Trudeau of Canada acted so meek and mild during our @G7 meetings only to give a news conference after I left saying that, “US Tariffs were kind of insulting” and he “will not be pushed around.” Very dishonest & weak. Our Tariffs are in response to his of 270% on dairy!
8:04 PM · Jun 9, 2018


Bolton said he then spoke with White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow, who was scheduled to appear on Sunday TV talk shows.

"Trump's direction [to Kudlow] was clear: Just go after Trudeau. Don't knock the others. Trudeau's a 'behind your back guy,'" Bolton writes.

He says there was no doubt that Trump wanted Kudlow and fellow White House aide Peter Navarro to attack Trudeau.

Navarro also went on TV and said there was a "special place in hell" for Trudeau because of the way he treated Trump.

Tensions between the Canadian and American leaders have ebbed and flowed in the two years since that notorious meeting.



G7 leaders wait for Trump to join them for a family photo in Charlevoix, Que., on June 8, 2018. (Leah Millis/Reuters)


Eventually, U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs were removed on Canada and Mexico. Kudlow, meanwhile, has since told reporters that he and Trudeau shared a friendly moment later in 2018 and patched things up at that year's G20 meeting in Argentina.

Bolton's dig at Chretien over Huawei

Bolton's book also takes a quick dig at former prime minister Jean Chrétien. It involves Chrétien's suggestion that Canada should free Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou, in Canadian custody pending extradition to the U.S.

"Never a friend of the U.S., [Chrétien] was arguing that Canada should simply not abide by our extradition treaty," he writes.

"[Vice President Mike] Pence, Pompeo and I all urged Canada to stand firm, stressing we would support them every way we could, including directly raising with China the mistreatment of Canadian citizens."

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Meng Wanzhou's lawyers accuse U.S. of misleading court in extradition case

Misstatements of fact, omissions in case record should result in stay of proceedings, defence says

Jason Proctor· CBC News· Posted: Jun 15, 2020 2:16 PM PT

 
Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou is fighting extradition to the United States on fraud charges. Her lawyers claim the U.S. record of the case is flawed. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

Lawyers for Meng Wanzhou claim U.S. authorities are trying to mislead the B.C. judge overseeing the Huawei executive's extradition hearing by providing an outline of the case against her that is riddled with holes and distortions.

Meng's defence team says the allegations of "deliberate and/or reckless misstatements of fact and material omissions" in the official record of the case are so serious that the extradition proceedings should be tossed for an alleged violation of the 48-year-old's charter rights.

The new allegations were raised at a B.C. Supreme Court hearing held Monday to chart the course of the high-profile case over the coming year.

In a 10-page case management memo, Meng's lawyers claim the records — filed to justify the U.S. request to extradite the Huawei chief financial officer on charges of fraud — are "so replete with intentional or reckless error" that the only way to deal with them is a stay of proceedings.

Accused of fraud

Meng is accused of lying to an HSBC executive in Hong Kong in August 2013 about Huawei's relationship with Skycom, a company prosecutors claim was violating U.S. economic sanctions against Iran.

The U.S. claims Skycom was actually a subsidiary of Huawei and that HSBC and other banks placed themselves at risk of prosecution and financial loss by continuing to provide financing to Huawei based on Meng's reassurances.

Meng, the daughter of Huawei's billionaire founder, has denied the allegations.


Meng is the daughter of Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei, seen here at the company headquarters in Shenzhen, China. (Aly Song/Reuters)

She was arrested at Vancouver's international airport on Dec. 1, 2018, on an extradition warrant after arriving from Hong Kong on her way to Argentina.

Meng was released on $10 million bail and has been living for the past year and a half under a form of house arrest in one of two multi-million homes she owns on Vancouver's west side.


Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes dealt the defence a significant blow last month by ruling that the proceedings should continue as the case met the bar for so-called "double criminality" and that Meng's alleged offence would be considered a crime had it happened in Canada.

Abuse of process

The new accusations are the latest part of a defence strategy to argue that Meng is the victim of an abuse of the legal process which violated her rights.

Her defence plans to claim that she was a victim of political interference by U.S. President Donald Trump, who indicated shortly after Meng's arrest that he would intervene in the case if it might result in a better trade deal with China.

And it also plans to claim that the Canada Border Services Agency, the RCMP and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service conspired with the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation to mount a covert investigation against Meng when she got off the plane.


Meng is accused of lying to an executive with HSBC in Hong Kong in August 2013. But her lawyers say the record of the case doesn't tell the whole story. (Bobby Yip/Reuters)

They have accused authorities of using the extraordinary powers of border agents to detain Meng before she was officially arrested, seizing her electronic goods, compelling her to give over the passwords and questioning her without a lawyer about Huawei's activities in Iran.

The Crown has filed both an original record of the case and a supplementary record of the case as a means to explain the grounds for Meng's extradition.


According to Justice Canada, those records allow the requesting state to summarize the evidence that would be available to prosecute someone if they were extradited.

Misstatements and omissions

Meng's lawyers claim the record provided before Holmes is incomplete on several fronts, starting with the summary of the PowerPoint presentation Meng is alleged to have given to the HSBC executive.

They say prosecutors failed to mention that Meng told HSBC that Skycom worked with Huawei in sales and service in Iran and that Huawei conducted "normal business activities" in Iran and provided civilian telecommunications activities.

The defence team says the omissions show Meng gave the bank the facts it needed to assess the risk of doing business with Huawei.


Meng poses for pictures with friends on the steps of the B.C. Supreme Court ahead of a crucial court loss in May. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

They also claim that the record of the case says only "junior" HSBC employees knew about the relationship between Huawei and Skycom when in fact "it is inconceivable that any decision to modify or terminate HSBC's relationship with Skycom or Huawei would not have been reviewed by the most senior management at HSBC."

They also point to the fact that HSBC had its own deferred prosecution agreement at the time with the U.S. Department of Justice which saw the bank pay a $1.9 billion fine for misconduct that included other violations of U.S. sanctions against Iran.


As part of that deal, HSBC promised to adopt American anti-money laundering standards.
The defence lawyers say that any potential violation of that agreement by a client would have been addressed by the most senior people at HSBC, not junior employees.

The defence team also accuses the U.S. of claiming HSBC extended $900 million to Huawei following Meng's alleged lies, when the bank's portion of that amount was actually $80 million.
They also say prosecutors failed to mention that Huawei never used the cash.

And finally, Meng's lawyers claim that the record of the case is "highly misleading" because it doesn't say that HSBC had the ability to process some of the transactions in question without touching the U.S. banking system — which is the grounds through which the U.S. claims jurisdiction.

'Blistering' pace

The claims around abuse of process were originally supposed to be heard in advance of a hearing into the sufficiency of the evidence needed for Meng to be extradited.


But Holmes suggested that the new allegations about the record of the case meant that she might need to hear arguments on the evidence itself before she could make up her mind about any alleged abuse of process connected to it.

The defence team said it preferred to stick to the old plan, which one lawyer said it has been preparing for at a "blistering" pace.
The defence also said that if the allegations didn't lead to a stay, it might lead to certain redactions from the record of the case, which could alter the judge's understanding of the facts.

The current schedules under consideration include significant hearings to be held both this fall and next spring.

The lawyers will meet with the judge again next Tuesday to discuss the plans further.

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CSIS predicted Meng Wanzhou's arrest would cause 'shock waves' and trouble for Canada: court documents

Lawyers for Huawei executive claim security documents are proof authorities conspired against Meng

Jason Proctor· CBC News· Posted: Jun 12, 2020 12:13 PM PT


Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou poses for pictures ahead of a loss in court in May. Newly released documents show the Canadian Security Intelligence Service predicted 'shock waves' at her arrest on Canadian soil. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service predicted Meng Wanzhou's arrest in December 2018 would send "shock waves" around the world and have significant consequences for Canada, according to newly released federal court documents.

The heavily redacted report is included in documents related to a federal court battle between Canada's attorney general and Meng's defence team over the disclosure of details which the government claims are privileged because of national security concerns.
They will form part of her claim that her arrest was an abuse of the legal process, as she continues to await a hearing on her possible extradition to the U.S.

The CSIS report, disclosed as part of Meng's extradition proceedings, also shows CSIS got a heads-up from the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation about her arrest on Dec. 1, 2018, at Vancouver International Airport, saying "advanced communication to CSIS came from the FBI."  Lawyers for the Huawei executive claim those details suggest authorities conspired against her.

"The arrest is likely to send shock waves around the world and is certain to be a significant bilateral (Canada/China; U.S./China) issue," the CSIS report says.

Offence considered crime in Canada

The 48-year-old chief financial officer was arrested on an extradition warrant after arriving in Canada on a flight from Hong Kong. She was supposed to be on a stopover to Mexico City, with an ultimate destination of Argentina.

Meng, the daughter of Huawei's billionaire founder Ren Zhengfei, is charged with fraud in the U.S. in relation to allegations that she lied to an HSBC banker in Hong Kong in 2013 about the telecommunication giant's control of a company that was in violation of U.S. economic sanctions against Iran.


Michael Spavor, left, and former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig, right, have been in Chinese custody since the days after Meng's arrest. CSIS documents appear to warn of consequences for Canada if it made the arrest requested by the U.S. (The Associated Press/International Crisis Group/The Canadian Press)


Prosecutors claim that by relying on Meng's alleged lies, banks put themselves at risk of prosecution and loss by handling Huawei's finances in further violation of the U.S. sanctions.

Meng has denied any wrongdoing.


Last month, she lost a key battle in the extradition process when a B.C. Supreme Court judge ruled that the offence she is accused of would be considered a crime in Canada. The decision on so-called double criminality clears the way for Meng's extradition hearing to continue.

Violation of rights alleged

The new federal court documents relate to the next stage of Meng's fight, in which she intends to claim that her Charter rights were violated at the time of her arrest.

Dates for hearings on an abuse of the legal process are likely to be set next week.

In those hearings, Meng's lawyers say they will attempt to prove that American and Canadian authorities conspired against their client to conduct a "covert criminal investigation."
 

A still from a video of Meng taken during her first few hours in CBSA custody. Defence lawyers claim her rights were violated during this time. (Court proceedings)


The CSIS documents were released in response to an earlier set of hearings in which Meng's lawyers were able to prove that there was an "air of reality" to her claims.

The defence team claims that although there was a warrant for Meng's "immediate" arrest, Canada Border Services Agency officers held her for three hours before RCMP took her into custody. During that time, they seized Meng's phones and electronic devices, later giving the passcodes to RCMP in error.


Meng's lawyers claim police took note of the electronic identification numbers associated with Meng's phones and tablets. They say that passing that information on to the FBI would be a violation of the Extradition Act.

The CSIS report says "FBI will not be present" at Meng's arrest "in order to avoid the perception of influence." Her lawyers claim that statement and others are proof CSIS was "conscious of obscuring the involvement of the FBI."

Prediction of trouble for Canadians in China

Another CSIS document written after Meng's arrest specifically notes the arrest of Canadians Kevin and Julia Garratt in China following the 2014 arrest in Canada of Su Bin, a Chinese citizen and B.C. resident who was accused of stealing U.S. military secrets through hacking.

Su was extradited to the U.S. in 2016 and jailed for nearly four years. The Garratts had lived in China for 30 years prior to their arrest on unproven allegations of espionage. Julia Garratt spent five months in jail before being released on bail. Kevin Garratt was detained for more than two years.

In the days after Meng's arrest, Chinese authorities detained two Canadians, former diplomat Michael Kovrig and entrepreneur Michael Spavor.



Kevin Garratt embraces his wife Julia at the Vancouver International Airport in 2016 after the couple spent more than two years in Chinese custody, accused of spying. CSIS documents refer to their case in relation to possible consequences for Meng Wanzhou's arrest. (James Zimmerman/CP/HO)


The two men have been in Chinese custody ever since, and have been accused by the Chinese of spying.


Canada has called their detention arbitrary, and many experts see the move as retribution for Meng's arrest on Canadian soil. Canada's foreign affairs minister has said that securing the release of the two men is Canada's top priority.

China has repeatedly called on Canada to release Meng and expressed anger about the case.
China has also taken steps to cut off Canadian exports of canola and meat in the wake of the extradition proceedings.

This week, a federal court judge appointed Toronto lawyer Anil Kapoor as an amicus curiae, or "friend of the court," who will be able to attend court hearings related to arguments held out of public view over the release of documents that could have national security implications.

Meng's lawyers had argued for Kapoor's appointment, as the defence team will not be allowed to attend the in-camera portions of the hearings. They claim that having a third party whose job is to advise the court will ensure that Meng's interests are met at the proceedings.

Meng has been living under a form of house arrest since she was released on $10 million bail in Vancouver. She owns two multimillion-dollar homes on the city's west side and is trailed around the clock by security guards.

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Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou loses key court battle as B.C. judge rules extradition bid should proceed

Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes released her decision Wednesday morning

Jason Proctor· CBC News· Posted: May 27, 2020 4:00 AM PT


Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou leaves her home for B.C. Supreme Court in Vancouver on Wednesday morning. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

A B.C. Supreme Court judge has delivered a major blow to Meng Wanzhou, ruling that extradition proceedings against the Huawei executive should proceed.

In a widely anticipated decision on so-called double criminality, Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes said the offence Meng is accused of by American prosecutors would be considered a crime if it occurred in Canada.

The 48-year-old chief financial officer of the telecommunications giant is charged with fraud in the United States for allegedly deceiving banks into a possible violation of U.S. economic sanctions against Iran.

In a 23-page ruling released Wednesday, Holmes said that the essence of Meng's alleged crime is fraud.

And the fact that Canada doesn't have the same economic sanctions against Iran as the U.S. wouldn't stop someone being prosecuted in Canada for the same offence.

"Canada's law of fraud looks beyond international boundaries," Holmes wrote in her decision.



The Huawei chief financial officer has been living in one of her Vancouver homes for the majority of the 18 months since her arrest. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

"Ms. Meng's approach to the double criminality analysis would seriously limit Canada's ability to fulfil its international obligations in the extradition context for fraud and other economic crimes."

Meng appeared in court shortly after the public release of the decision, showing no visible reaction to the loss. She wore a mask as she took her place beside her defence lawyers in the courtroom.

WATCH | Meng Wanzhou leaves B.C. Supreme Court after the legal defeat on Wednesday
 

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Extradition hearings to proceed

The executive was arrested at Vancouver's airport in December 2018 on an extradition warrant. She is accused of lying to an HSBC executive in Hong Kong about Huawei's control of a company that was said to be violating U.S. economic sanctions against Iran.

Prosecutors claim that Meng's alleged lies put banks at risk of prosecution and loss because they would be violating U.S. sanctions themselves in handling Huawei's finances.
Meng has denied the allegations against her. A statement from Huawei on Wednesday said the company was "disappointed" in Holmes's ruling and that her lawyers will continue to push for her freedom.

"Our view is that this is an early step in what's likely to be a much longer process for Meng Wanzhou here in Canada," said Alykhan Velshi, vice president of corporate affairs of Huawei Canada.

"We're confident that Meng Wanzhou will be vindicated," Velshi told CBC News outside the courthouse.
 

Meng Wanzhou leaves B.C. Supreme Court after the court loss in Vancouver on Monday. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

The ruling does not necessarily mean that Meng will be extradited to the U.S.






The judge still has to hold hearings to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to warrant extradition, and Meng has also claimed that her rights were violated at the time of her arrest.

Holmes pointed out that Canada's minister of justice will also have a chance to weigh in on whether a decision to commit Meng for extradition would be contrary to Canadian values.

The ministry confirmed in a statement that extradition proceedings will go ahead "as expeditiously as possible."

'Beyond international boundaries'

The decision Wednesday comes as a major setback to Meng, who is the daughter of Huawei's billionaire founder Ren Zhengfei. On Saturday night, she staged a photo shoot on the steps of the B.C. Supreme Court building in apparent anticipation of a victory.

Meng's lawyers argued that the fact Canada does not have economic sanctions against Iran meant her alleged actions would not have been considered a crime in Canada because no bank would have suffered a loss in an identical set of circumstances.
 

A group of supporters and media gathered at the foot of Meng Wanzhou's driveway as she left her home for B.C. Supreme Court on Monday morning. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

The Crown argued that Meng's alleged offence was fraud, pure and simple, which is a crime in both countries.





In the ruling, Holmes wrestled with the question of whether a judge can consider the effect of U.S. sanctions in coming to a decision, given that she was supposed to be imagining a hypothetical version of the events set in Canada.
But the judge said Meng's lawyers were trying to make the scope of her analysis too narrow.

"Canada's law of fraud looks beyond international boundaries to encompass all the relevant details that make up the factual matrix, including foreign laws that may give meaning to some of the facts," Holmes said.

"The offence of fraud has a vast potential scope. It may encompass a very wide range of conduct, a large expanse of time, and acts, people and consequences in multiple jurisdictions. Experience shows that many fraudsters benefit in particular from international dealings through which they can obscure their identity and the location of their fraudulent gains."

Holmes also addressed Meng's lawyers' concern that the offence would see Canada enforcing sanctions Canadians have explicitly rejected.
She pointed out that economic sanctions are not as "fundamentally contrary" to Canadian values as something like slavery.








And she said it would ultimately be the job of Justice Minister David Lametti to decide whether surrendering Meng to the U.S. authorities would be "unjust or oppressive."


'Continuous harm'

China has repeatedly expressed anger at Canada for arresting Meng.

The Chinese government has targeted Canadian canola and meat imports.

And within days of Meng's arrest, authorities detained two Canadians who were living and working in China, former diplomat Michael Kovrig and entrepreneur Michael Spavor.
 

Meng poses with friends and family on the steps of the B.C. Supreme Court building in downtown Vancouver days before a judge ruled on her extradition case. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

Both men have been accused of spying and have been held in custody ever since.

Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister François-Philippe Champagne said Wednesday that Canada's "top priority" is securing the release of Kovrig and Spavor as well as clemency for Canadians facing the death penalty in China, including Robert Schellenberg.





"We will continue to advocate for their immediate release," Champagne tweeted.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian called for Meng's release once more on Tuesday, insisting the dispute was political, not legal.

"The Canadian side should immediately correct its mistake, release Ms. Meng and ensure her safe return to China at an early date so as to avoid any continuous harm to China-Canada relations," Zhao said in a news conference.

The U.S. Department of Justice released a statement thanking the Canadian government for its "continued assistance" in the case against Meng. Champagne's statement reiterated that Canada's judiciary operates independently.
 

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'Right needs to be done': Meng Wanzhou's lawyers make final pitch to judge

B.C. Supreme Court judge reserves decision on Huawei executive's extradition

Jason Proctor· CBC News· Posted: Jan 23, 2020 1:29 PM PT


Meng Wanzhou walks in the rain en route to the final day of her extradition hearing, in Vancouver on Thursday. The U.S. wants the Huawei chief financial officer extradited on fraud charges. (Jonathan Hayward/The Canadian Press)


A lawyer for Meng Wanzhou made a final pitch against extradition Thursday to the B.C. Supreme Court judge tasked with weighing the Huawei executive's fate.

But Richard Peck told Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes that Meng's defence team was asking for more than just a legal victory.

"This is the kind of case that tests our system," Peck said as he wrapped up his arguments.



"It's not so much for us a matter of standing here and saying we want to see justice done. We say right needs to be done."

Holmes concluded the four-day hearing by thanking both defence and Crown lawyers for their work and reserving her decision for a later date.

She gave no indication as to how long it might take.

Accused of lying to bank

Meng was arrested at Vancouver's airport on Dec. 1, 2018, on a stopover from Hong Kong to a conference in Argentina.

The United States wants Meng extradited for allegedly lying to HSBC about Huawei's control of a company accused of attempting to sell computer equipment to an Iranian telecommunications company.

American prosecutors argue the bank put itself at risk of fines, prosecution and the loss of reputation by relying on Meng's alleged lie to continue providing finance to the Chinese telecommunications giant.





Meng is living under house arrest in one of two multi-million dollar homes she owns in Vancouver.
As part of a $10 million bail agreement, she wears a GPS monitoring bracelet on her left ankle and is trailed everywhere by a team of security guards.

This week's hearing — which marked the first formal stage of the extradition process — was held to determine if Meng's alleged conduct would amount to a crime if it had happened in Canada at the time the U.S. gave Canada the authority to proceed with the extradition: the principle of so-called "double criminality."



Meng listens as her lawyer, Richard Peck, makes a final pitch for her freedom to Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes in B.C. Supreme Court. (Jane Wolsak/The Canadian Press)


'This is an oxymoron'

Meng's lawyers spent the first two days arguing that the whole case comes down to economic sanctions the U.S. reimposed against Iran in 2018 when it left an international deal meant to stall the Islamic republic's nuclear ambitions.

Canada doesn't have those same sanctions and so, the defence claims, Meng's alleged lies would be harmless north of the border because a bank in Canada wouldn't risk anything by dealing with a company that did business in Iran.

The Crown then spent half a day arguing the case was one of fraud, plain and simple, and that the issue of sanctions was essentially a red herring.





Crown lawyer Robert Frater said the central elements of fraud are a misrepresentation resulting in risk of loss.



Meng displays her GPS ankle monitoring bracelet as she arrives at court. (Ben Nelms/CBC)


And if the existence of foreign sanctions came into Holmes' decision, he said it should be as a means to understand the context of the risks that HSBC would be taking by providing finance to a company on the wrong side of U.S. law.

Peck and co-counsel Scott Fenton provided a brief reply to the Crown's arguments Thursday, taking issue with Frater's contention that fraud and risk of deprivation could still occur "where there is no possibility of loss."

"This is an oxymoron," Fenton told the judge. "No possibility of risk means no loss at all."

They also told Holmes that she could consider the value of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in making her decision — a response to the Crown's contention that weighing concerns about values associated with sanctions law was a concern for the minister of justice, not a B.C. Supreme Court judge.

'It's unique .. it's a pose'

Both the Crown and the defence say the case is unique. But as to why, they disagree.





"It's unique because in our submission, it's a pose," Peck told Holmes.

"It is a pose or posture where fraud is being tendered as the essence [of the alleged conduct] and, in fact, sanctions busting or sanctions violations is the essence ... It's unique because our standards have changed with respect to this very issue. It's extraordinary in that sense."
Holmes allowed Meng to move out of the prisoner's dock in the high-security courtroom where the hearing was held so that she could sit alongside her counsel and follow the arguments through a translator.

If Holmes decides the bar of double-criminality is not met, then the extradition proceedings will come to an end and Meng would be free to return to China, barring an appeal.

But if the Crown is successful, further court dates have been set in June for Meng to argue that she is being used as a political pawn and that her rights were violated at the time of her detention and arrest.

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Pompeo backs Canada on 'coercive detentions' of Canadians in China

U.S. secretary of state expresses support for Canada after phone call with foreign minister

 The Canadian Press· Posted: Dec 24, 2019 1:54 PM ET





Secretary of State Mike Pompeo departs an event at the State Department in Washington on December 19, 2019. (Matt Rourke/The Associated Press)


U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says his country is sticking with Canada in fighting what he calls China's "coercive detentions of Canadian citizens."

Pompeo and Foreign Affairs Minister François-Philippe Champagne spoke Monday about a range of global concerns, including China, the ongoing crisis in Venezuela and the United States' upcoming presidency of the G7 group of countries with large economies.

Champagne said it was "a very productive call."


Relations strained

Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig and entrepreneur Michael Spavor were picked up days after Canada arrested Chinese tech executive Meng Wanzhou on a U.S. extradition warrant related to charges of bank fraud.

Canada has had no luck so far in pressing for their release.

"The United States stands with Canada in calling on Beijing for the immediate release of the two men and rejects the use of these unjustified detentions to coerce Canada," said a statement from Morgan Ortagus, a spokesperson for the U.S. State Department.

Under President Donald Trump, the United States and China have been in a deepening spiral of tariffs and counter-tariffs on each other's goods, which Trump has said he hopes will end with a major new trade deal that will see China import more American products.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said he's asked the U.S. not to sign a new trade agreement with Beijing until the Canadians are freed.

War of words

China's attitude toward the United States has grown increasingly belligerent. In a regular news conference at China's foreign ministry this week, spokesman Geng Shuang took aim at the U.S. over several issues, including the weaponization of space and humanitarian aid in Syria.

For instance, Pompeo had criticized Russia and China for voting against a UN Security Council resolution on Syria — a move Champagne called disappointing in a statement on Sunday.
Geng said the crisis in Syria is ultimately the Americans' fault.

"The world sees clearly who keeps lying with hearts full of hypocrisy and blood on their hands," Geng said, according to a transcript posted in English on the foreign-ministry website. "It is they who should repent."


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Trudeau's plea to U.S. to secure detained Canadians' release 'doomed to fail,' China says

Chinese foreign ministry says Canada's move amounts to 'ganging up on China'

Raisa Patel· CBC News· Posted: Dec 20, 2019 11:54 AM ET





Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang criticized Canada's appeal to the U.S in a Dec. 20 media briefing. (The Associated Press)


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's appeal to the U.S. to help secure the freedom of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor is "a waste of time" and "doomed to fail," China's foreign ministry said Friday.

Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang delivered the remarks at a media briefing one day after Trudeau urged Washington to delay finalizing a trade deal with China until the detained Canadians have been released.

"If you pull chestnuts out of the fire for others, you will end up being the one getting burned," Geng said. He wouldn't clarify whether the comment was a direct threat aimed at Canada.


Trudeau told TVA's Salut Bonjour program Thursday that his government asked the Trump administration to hit pause on signing a final trade agreement.

The U.S. and China agreed on the first phase of a trade deal on Dec. 13 which includes a reduction in U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods.

Geng was critical of Canada's move, warning that it was tantamount to "ganging up on China by forming cliques."

'Nothing to add': PMO

When asked whether the U.S. had made any appeals for Kovrig and Spavor's release, Geng evaded the question.

"We have said many times before, reaching Phase One serves the interests of China, U.S. and the world," he said.

 



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The Prime Minister's Office said in a statement Friday that it had "nothing to add" regarding whether Trudeau had received any kind of commitment from the Trump administration.






"You will recall that the U.S., along with other allies, raised the cases of our detainees both publicly and privately," the statement says.

Foreign Affairs Minister François-Philippe Champagne said that Canada takes instruction from no other country when it comes to foreign policy.

"The only one who [is] going to dictate the foreign policy of Canada is the Government of Canada," he said in an interview with CBC Radio's The House, airing Saturday.

'I hope that Mr. Trump would think twice': Guy Saint-Jacques

According to former Canadian ambassador to China Guy Saint-Jacques, it would be in the Trump administration's best interest to intervene on Canada's behalf.

"I think they would run the risk of being alone themselves, because countries would say, 'Why would we help you after what we have seen what you did to the Canadians?'" Saint-Jacques said. "I hope that Mr. Trump would think twice."
The former ambassador said Trudeau's request of the U.S. government is in line with Canada's actions since relations with China began to fray late last year.

"The campaign that Canada has followed since the start of this crisis to seek support from allies ... has had success," he said.

As for China's comments, Saint-Jacques said that they "reflect the new Chinese diplomatic style, which is more in your face than trying to save face. It shows that the relationship is not very good."

Kovrig, Spavor now facing trial

Earlier this month, China transferred Spavor and Kovrig's cases to prosecutorial authorities for investigation and prosecution. The two will now go to trial on charges connected to national security.

Kovrig's case is related to allegations of "covertly gathering state secrets and intelligence for foreign sources," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying said Dec. 10.

Spavor's case involves allegations of "stealing and illegally providing state secrets to foreign forces."



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Kovrig and Spavor have been detained for more than a year. They were taken by Chinese authorities days after Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Canada at the request of the U.S.

The federal government said the men only have limited access to consular assistance and have not had contact with lawyers or family members.

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RCMP gave FBI serial numbers, other details about Meng Wanzhou’s phones: Defence

Laura Kane •  The Canadian Press
Oct 03, 2019 

Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou, centre, who is out on bail and remains under partial house arrest after she was detained last year at the behest of American authorities, arrives at B.C. Supreme Court to attend a hearing, in Vancouver, on Thursday October 3, 2019. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Darryl Dyck
Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou, centre.DARRYL DYCK / THE CANADIAN PRESS
A lawyer for Huawei Technologies executive Meng Wanzhou says the RCMP illegally passed on serial numbers and other crucial details of her electronic devices to the FBI, but the Crown denies the allegation.

Scott Fenton said Mounties provided information that enables U.S. authorities to find out calls made and received, phone numbers, time and duration of calls and the physical location of cell towers where calls were connected.

“This is a very serious matter,” Fenton told a B.C. Supreme Court judge Thursday. “The provision of this technical information is a gateway to U.S. law enforcement taking other investigative steps … to get other information to use against Ms. Meng.”

Meng’s lawyers are in court seeking documents that they believe would prove allegations that American and Canadian officials conspired to conduct a “covert criminal investigation” at Vancouver’s airport. The U.S. is seeking her extradition on fraud charges linked to alleged violations of sanctions against Iran, which Meng and Huawei deny. She was arrested during a stopover at the airport on Dec. 1, 2018.

A lawyer for the Canadian government told the judge it’s simply not true that the RCMP forwarded details about Meng’s phones, laptop, tablet or any other devices to the FBI.

“My friend says it’s a very serious allegation and we believe it’s not a fact,” said Robert Frater.

Fenton replied that his assertion was based on an RCMP officer’s notes, which say a staff sergeant emailed an FBI liaison the devices’ serial numbers, SIM card numbers and international mobile-equipment identity numbers. The identity numbers allow U.S. authorities to learn significant information about call history, the defence said.

After a break, Frater produced two emails from the staff sergeant in which he said he did not provide the information to the FBI. He also proposed that the judge direct the Crown to produce documents from five RCMP officers on the topic.

However, the defence insisted that the new evidence from the staff sergeant was merely “hearsay.”

“We have grave concerns that this information is not correct,” Fenton said.

Justice Heather Holmes directed the Crown to obtain affidavits from the five officers by next Wednesday. The defence will then have until Oct. 16 to respond and decide whether it wants to apply to cross-examine the officers.

The judge reserved her decision on the defence’s overall application for disclosure.

While the devices were ultimately not passed on to the FBI, Fenton told the court that the original plan was for the U.S. agency to acquire them.

After a morning meeting of RCMP and CBSA officers on Dec. 1, a Mountie wrote in her notes that the border guards would obtain Meng’s phones “as per FBI request.”

The Crown has said a forensic examination showed that neither the CBSA nor the RCMP searched the devices. But Fenton said the exam did show that on Dec. 4 several devices were turned on and at least one was connected to the internet.

That was the same day that the RCMP officer’s notes said the device details were passed on to the FBI, and another officer wrote that he had photographed the devices and removed the SIM cards, Fenton said.

The RCMP violated the Extradition Act when it provided this information to the FBI, he argued.

The FBI has since dropped its request for the devices, but Fenton described that decision as “an effort at damage control” and added the agency may have already gleaned significant information from the items.

“A reasonable inference may be made that they don’t want the devices anymore because they don’t need them,” he said.

Fenton also criticized the Crown for its recent admission that border guards “mistakenly” provided Meng’s passcodes to the RCMP.

The defence argues that a plan was hatched during the morning meeting on Dec. 1 to have border guards interrogate Meng before the RCMP executed the provisional arrest warrant, robbing her of her right to a lawyer or silence.

The court heard CBSA seized her devices and wrote down the passcodes on a piece of paper, both of which they passed to the RCMP at the time of her arrest.

Fenton questioned why handing over the passcodes was being described as a mistake, but not providing the devices. He argued that none of what unfolded was an accident.

“To describe this as an error is to mischaracterize the seriousness of all of the conduct,” he said. “All of the conduct was purposeful and taken in furtherance of the plan that was set that morning.”

He also argued that a border guard’s interview of Meng was inappropriate and crossed into the realm of evidence-gathering. The officer didn’t tell Meng she was facing an arrest warrant but asked her about Huawei’s business in Iran.

In addition to seeking document disclosure, the defence has also suggested a stay-of-proceedings. The Crown has said there’s no evidence that would justify such a draconian measure, but Fenton disagreed.

“You have powerful evidence pointing to an air of reality that the remedy for these cumulative abuses of law, that also involve multiple serious violations of Ms. Meng’s constitutional rights, would justify a stay of proceedings,” he said.

The arrest of Meng, who is Huawei’s chief financial officer and the daughter of its founder Ren Zhengfei, sparked a diplomatic crisis between Canada and China. Her extradition trial is scheduled to begin in January.




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'Inferences' and 'absence of evidence' dog Meng Wanzhou hearing as Crown fights conspiracy theory

Crown draws on case of 'Bambi' Bembenek as example of immigration officials doing their duty

Jason Proctor· CBC News· Posted: Oct 02, 2019 5:39 PM PT |


Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou holds her phone as she heads into B.C. Supreme Court. Passcodes to Meng's phones are now at the centre of arguments that authorities conspired against her. (Darryl Dyck/The Canadian Press)


It's one error. But does it point to a greater pattern?

A B.C. Supreme Court judge pondered the importance of a Canada Border Services Agency mistake Wednesday as she tried to decide how the misstep might fit into a conspiracy theory alleged by Meng Wanzhou's lawyers.

Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes repeatedly interrupted a lawyer for the Crown as he tried to minimize the significance of border officers giving the Huawei executive's phone passcodes to RCMP in error.



The mistake first emerged as an issue on Tuesday.

Meng's lawyers claim the CBSA and RCMP conspired with the FBI to "trick" Meng into volunteering information during a customs examination before she was officially arrested after landing at Vancouver's airport in December 2018.

Crown attorney John Gibb-Carsley said the passcode mistake needed to be viewed in the context of a larger set of events during which Canadian authorities acted entirely appropriately.

"I'm reminded of the old adage: 'Never let the truth get in the way of a good story,'" Gibb-Carsley told Holmes as he wrapped up the Crown's case.

The problem with the defence's theory of the case, he said: "The truth gets in the way of their story."

Alleged U.S. sanctions violation

Meng's lawyers want Holmes to order the disclosure of a wide variety of documents and records they believe will bolster an argument that Meng's rights were violated in the hours prior to her arrest.


The 47-year-old is facing possible extradition to the United States for allegedly violating U.S. sanctions against Iran.



This phone is one of two seized from Meng when she landed at Vancouver's airport in December 2018. CBSA officers asked her for the passcodes and later passed the codes on to RCMP. (B.C. Supreme Court)


She's accused of lying to banks about the nature of Huawei's relationship with a company in Tehran that was attempting to sell U.S. telecommunications equipment in violation of American sanctions.

Huawei claimed the company, Skycom, was a "local partner." But U.S. prosecutors claim the firm was actually a hidden subsidiary.

Sitting alongside her counsel, Meng has listened intently to arguments put forward by both defence and lawyers for Canada's attorney general.

But the issue of the phone passcodes has proven thorny.

'Inferences from absences'

Border officers seized the phones along with Meng's laptop and tablet when she emerged onto the jetway after flying into YVR from Hong Kong.


The FBI had suggested to RCMP the previous day that the devices be placed in Mylar bags to prevent them from being remotely wiped.

The Crown has argued that the border officers were just doing their job in determining if Meng was admissible to Canada. They say no one has ever actually searched the phones, which the FBI no longer even want.



CBSA officers asked Meng for the passcodes for her phones when they seized her electronic devices. They later passed those codes in error to the RCMP. (B.C. Supreme Court)


But as she considered the facts, Holmes kept returning to the phones.

If the FBI didn't ask the CBSA to seize them, and the CBSA officers were supposedly acting independently, why were the Mylar bags used?

And if the border agents claim that they got the passcodes as part of the process of examining Meng's goods for evidence of criminality, why didn't they search them?

"We're in a situation where we're being asked to draw inferences from absences," Holmes told Gibb-Carsley.


 "Since we're in the land of inferences because of the absence of evidence ... we have the fact that the passcodes were given along with the devices that CBSA took on the jetway and put in Mylar bags, and we have the fact that the U.S. request was for exactly that."

From Meng to Bambi

In making their case, the Crown lawyers also drew on precedent set by one of Canada's most colourful fugitives — Lawrencia 'Bambi' Bembenek, a former Playboy Bunny and police officer who fled north in 1990 after escaping the U.S. prison where she was serving time for killing her husband's ex-wife.

In that case, Canadian immigration officials were accused of using deportation proceedings as a disguised form of extradition.



Lawrencia 'Bambi' Bembenek was a famous fugitive who returned to the U.S. after capture in Canada. While she was here, she set a legal precedent cited by Crown attorneys who are fighting Meng Wanzhou. (The Canadian Press)


Likewise, Meng's lawyers claim that the CBSA search and questioning of Meng was just a pretence for a "covert criminal investigation."

In the Bembenek case, a judge found that immigration officials were acting in good faith in their efforts to deport a convicted killer.

Gibb-Carsley said the officers who dealt with Meng also had a legitimate purpose in guarding the border.


Like Meng, Bembenek's arrest in Canada drew media from around the world, resulting in a cottage industry of Run Bambi Run T-shirts and at least one TV movie, starring Tatum O'Neal.

But the similarities end there.

After fighting extradition, Bembenek returned to Wisconsin willingly in 1992.
Her original conviction was set aside when mistakes were found in the investigation. She pleaded no contest to second degree murder and was released on probation.

Bembenek moved to Washington state in the late 1990s to be with her parents.

She died of liver failure in 2010.

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Border officers mistakenly gave RCMP passcodes to Meng Wanzhou's phone

Crown lawyers say mistake should not render arrest of Huawei CFO 'a sham'

Jason Proctor· CBC News· Posted: Oct 01, 2019 7:18 PM PT


Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou leaves her Vancouver home en route to court Tuesday. She wore a Chinese flag pin as China marked the 70th anniversary of Communist rule. (Darryl Dyck/The Canadian Press)


Canada Border Services Agency officers who seized Meng Wanzhou's phones, laptop and tablet when she arrived at Vancouver's airport in December 2018 later mistakenly gave the phone passcodes to the RCMP.

Lawyers for Canada's attorney general admitted the error in B.C. Supreme Court on Tuesday as they tried to shoot down a theory that the CBSA and RCMP had conspired to violate the Huawei chief financial officer's rights at the time of her arrest.

Meng's lawyers claim the agencies acted at the behest of the RCMP to conduct a "covert criminal investigation" against their client.



But Crown lawyer Diba Majzub told B.C. Supreme Court Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes that one error doesn't prove a larger conspiracy.

"When we consider this part of the process, and the fact that there was an error — that has to be looked at in the entire context," said Majzub.

"The fact of an error in the process is not an air of reality that the process was a sham."

Accused of violating U.S. sanctions

The Crown has spent the past two days refuting the defence allegation that Meng was the victim of an abuse of process when she was screened and questioned by CBSA officers before being officially arrested on an extradition warrant.

American prosecutors want the 47-year-old sent to the U.S. to stand trial for allegedly violating U.S. sanctions against Iran by lying to banks about Huawei's control of a hidden subsidiary.



CBSA officers asked Meng for the passcodes for her phones when they seized her electronic devices. They later passed those codes in error to the RCMP. (B.C. Supreme Court)

he company — which Huawei claimed was a "local partner" in Tehran — was accused of attempting to sell American telecommunications equipment in violation of the U.S. regulations.


Prosecutors claim Meng's alleged misrepresentations placed financial institutions at risk of breaking the law.

Meng is living under house arrest in a multimillion dollar home on Vancouver's West Side; she has denied the allegations.

Law allows CBSA to seize and search phones

Meng's extradition hearing is set to begin in January 2020, but this week her lawyers are trying to convince Holmes to issue an order for records to bolster their abuse of process claim.

The Crown has said the CBSA and RCMP acted appropriately, making sure that Meng was screened for admissibility before she was arrested.


CBSA officers seized Meng Wanzhou's laptop along with her phones and other electronic devices. Crown lawyers claim they were within their rights to do so. (B.C. Supreme Court)


Majzub argued that the law allows border officers to take phones from travellers, ask them for the passcodes and even to search them — all in the name of deciding if someone should be allowed into the country.

He said CBSA officers had legitimate reason to question Meng and to take her electronic devices because of the existence of fraud allegations which suggested she might be ineligible because of serious criminality.


Majzub said the law allows CBSA officers to search all "goods" crossing the border with travellers — and that the definition of "goods" includes cellphones.

'They did not access the devices'

Meng was carrying an iPhone 7 Plus, an IPad Pro, a Macbook Air and a Huawei Mate 20 phone when CBSA officers met her on the jetway after she landed in Vancouver on arrival from Hong Kong.

According to the defence, the FBI had asked that the devices be immediately seized and placed in special bags designed to ensure that their contents could not be remotely wiped.



Meng Wanzhou is flanked by security guards as she heads to B.C. Supreme Court in Vancouver. The terms of her bail require 24/7 monitoring. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)


The CBSA officers who took the phones also compelled Meng to give them the passcodes.
The Crown lawyers claim the devices have never been searched, but were passed to police by mistake.

In an email included in an affidavit filed with the court, Vancouver airport CBSA chief of passenger operations Nicole Goodman said she wrote to the RCMP after learning of the error.


"I advised the RCMP the passcodes should not have been provided by CBSA as the passcodes were CBSA information obtained during the CBSA examination, and that the passcodes could not be used to access the devices nor shared with a third party (ie. other law enforcement agency)," Goodman wrote.

"The RCMP confirmed they did not access the devices, and do not intend to access the devices at any time as it was not their investigation."

'Not a deliberate action'

In order to reach a decision, Holmes has to decide whether there is an "air of reality" to the theory the defence has put forward — not whether a conspiracy actually exists.

Holmes asked Majzub what he had to say about the fact the passcodes were passed between the agencies.

He asked her to consider the extraordinary powers of the CBSA and their duties to screen passengers thoroughly, suggesting that any mistake considered out of context can be misleading.

"When Your Ladyship does that, the result should be the conclusion that that was not a deliberate action but an error," Mazjub said.


Meng has attended the proceedings in person, walking past a phalanx of cameras daily as she leaves her home to head to the downtown courthouse each morning.
According to the court documents, Meng owns homes in both Hong Kong, where protestors have been marching against authoritarian rule, and in Shenzhen in Mainland China, where Huawei has its headquarters.

As China marked the 70th anniversary of Communist rule with a show of force, Meng wore a Chinese flag pin on a long red dress which hung just above the ankle monitor she wears as part of her release.

The court proceedings are expected to last all week.

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'Astonishing stuff': Crown lawyer mocks Meng Wanzhou conspiracy theory

No evidence agencies colluded against Huawei executive, lawyer for attorney general says

Jason Proctor· CBC News· Posted: Sep 30, 2019 5:16 PM PT


Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou attends a court hearing in downtown Vancouver, aimed at bolstering her legal team's assertion that Canadian and U.S. authorities violated her rights. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)


A Crown lawyer delivered a withering attack Monday on attempts by what he called Meng Wanzhou's "legal dream team" to prove she was the victim of a conspiracy between Canadian and U.S. authorities.

Robert Frater promised B.C. Supreme Court Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes a "reality check" on a defence theory that the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) and RCMP officers conspired to violate the Huawei executive's rights.

Meng's lawyers claim the agencies plotted with the FBI to conduct a covert investigation using the CBSA's "extraordinary powers" to detain and question her for three hours before she was actually arrested last December.



But Frater said the behaviour is "not at all sinister" if viewed in the proper context.

He then went on to refute — one by one — the 16-point argument Meng's lawyers made the week before.

"With respect, 16 nothings do not make an anything," Frater said at one point. "Much less a something."

'That's what they have — a nothing'

The U.S. wants to extradite Meng for allegedly lying to banks about Huawei's relationship with a hidden subsidiary that attempted to sell U.S. telecommunications equipment in Tehran.

Prosecutors claim Meng's alleged misrepresentations put financial institutions at risk of violating U.S. sanctions meant to isolate Iran from the global community.

Meng has denied the allegations and plans to fight extradition at a hearing that starts in January.

This week's proceedings relate to a separate but related process in which Meng's lawyers will attempt to argue that the way she was treated at the airport amounts to an abuse of process.

They want Holmes to order the Crown to disclose documents they believe will help them make their case.

The legal bar for success in the hearing is for the defence to establish "an air of reality" to their claims.

Frater argued that they have failed to do that.

"If it were an investigation, it produced paltry results," Frater said. "You can't get to an air of reality from a nothing. And that's what they have — a nothing."



Meng, who is out on bail and remains under partial house arrest, wears an electronic monitoring bracelet. (Darryl Dyck/The Canadian Press)

'Resplendent in their ordinariness'

Frater pointed to the fact that RCMP officers kept notes of their attendance at a meeting with their CBSA counterparts before Meng's arrival at Vancouver International Airport on Dec. 1.


"As a coverup, it's a complete failure when four of the participants in the coverup are noting their presence at the meeting," he said.

Frater repeatedly mocked the dramatic overtones of the defence's accusations, calling their revelations "astonishing stuff," "nefarious stuff" and "pedestrian stuff."



A still from a video of Meng filed as part of a defence application for access to documents. The video was taken during her first few hours in custody. (Court proceedings)


If anything, he said, videos of Meng going through secondary inspection revealed just how "mundane" her treatment actually was: "They were resplendent in their ordinariness."

But the judge repeatedly interrupted Frater, asking him why Meng was questioned and searched by CBSA officers before the RCMP took her into custody, despite a warrant that called for her "immediate" arrest.

Frater said "immediate" didn't mean border officers didn't have to execute their duties.

"They did it immediately," he said. "As soon as the CBSA had asked their questions about a person presenting themselves at the border."


'Routine customs questions'?

A CBSA officer asked Meng questions about Huawei's business with the U.S. and the company's activities in Iran; Holmes asked Frater what she should make of that.

"These don't appear to be routine customs questions," the judge said.



Meng leaves the B.C. Supreme Court on Monday. (Ben Nelms/CBC)


Holmes also asked Frater what would have happened if Meng had admitted to violating U.S. sanctions against Iran and lying to banks. Would customs officials have turned her away?

"It's actually quite a complex question," Frater replied, promising to come back to the issue later in the week.

The Crown lawyers also insisted that they have gone above and beyond the call of duty in providing Meng's legal team with records surrounding her arrest and that anything more is simply a "fishing" expedition.

'Maybe even the pebbles'

Frater said they even filed new documents with the court after last week's proceedings, in a bid to be forthcoming.


The latest set of records include the notes of a former RCMP staff sergeant, written on Dec. 4 — three days after Meng's arrest, but before her bail hearing — contemplating what might happen if she was released.

"What could RCMP/CBSA do if she went to Chinese consulate, then to private airport?" the note reads.

"If no grounds, she is hidden, we could not act. Do you have electronic monitoring for people on bail?"

Meng has been in court every day for the two week hearing, sitting at a table alongside her counsel.
She sported a white designer dress suit Monday, Jimmy Choo pumps and the GPS ankle monitoring bracelet she has to wear as part of a $10 million bail agreement that sees her movement limited to exclude access to the airport.
Frater wrapped up his arguments with a rhetorical flourish.

"Ms. Meng has received an extraordinary level of disclosure," he said.

"She has been assisted by a legal dream team of five lawyers who have left no stone unturned. Maybe even the pebbles under the stones they've looked into as well ..."

But Holmes cut him off. She said she wanted to hear more about the law.

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Meng Wanzhou's lawyers say Canada should end extradition for 'national interests'

Lawyers say minister of justice needs to assert independence from U.S. in case of Huawei CFO


Jason Proctor· CBC News· Posted: Jun 24, 2019 11:34 AM PT



Lawyers for Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou say it would be in Canada's national interests to end extradition proceedings against their client. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

Lawyers for Meng Wanzhou say it would be in "Canada's national interests" to drop extradition proceedings against the Huawei chief financial officer.

Meng's legal team is asking Ottawa to assert Canadian independence from the United States by ending a legal proceeding that could render the executive to the U.S. for allegedly violating sanctions against Iran.

The normally tight-lipped lawyers say they submitted an argument to Justice Minister David Lametti following reports former prime minister Jean Chrétien floated the idea of Ottawa cancelling Meng's extradition as a way to thaw out hostile relations with China.

"Canada is at a crossroads respecting the United States' request that Canada extradite Ms. Meng, for conduct that could not be an offence in Canada," the lawyers argue.

"Over our history, the Canadian government has stood up for Canadian values, including the rule of law, even in circumstances where this has meant a departure from American foreign policy initiatives."

The statement is signed by the four legal heavyweights preparing Meng's defence in the lead-up to her B.C. Supreme Court extradition hearing, which is expected to begin next January.

The 47-year-old was arrested at Vancouver International Airport last December on a stop over from Hong Kong to Buenos Aires.
According to an indictment unsealed in January, Meng and Huawei face 13 criminal counts of conspiracy, fraud and obstruction in the U.S. The charges relate to an alleged scheme to circumvent sanctions against Iran through a shadow company in Tehran that prosecutors say was actually controlled by Huawei.

Meng is accused of lying about the relationship — putting U.S. banks at risk of violating sanctions.



The case has thrown Chinese-Canadian economic relations into a tailspin and seen China arrest two Canadians accused of spying and sentence two more to death for alleged drug offences.

The arguments echo submissions Meng's lawyers have already made in court, but they come after news both of Chretien's interference and a CBC report that Beijing ignored a personal attempt by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to meet with China's premier.


Former Prime Minister Jean Chretien has suggested that Canada should cancel extradition proceedings against Meng Wanzhou as a way to thaw out hostile relations with China. (Fred Chartrand/Canadian Press)

The statement comes at a time of heightened tensions between the United States and Iran.
Last week, Iran shot down a U.S. military drone — an action followed by U.S. President Donald Trump's last minute decision not to carry out a retaliatory strike because it would have killed 150 people.

Meng's legal team notes that Trump withdrew from an international agreement aimed at limiting Iran's nuclear capabilities and has since sought to introduce increased sanctions on the Islamic republic.

Canada has not followed suit.


Meng Wanzhou is facing an extradition hearing which is set to begin in January. China has called for her release as have her lawyers. (David Ryder/Reuters)

They say that Meng would never face a similar prosecution in Canada because "only the U.S. has sanctions laws prohibiting foreign banks entering into U.S. dollar transactions for doing business with foreign companies that sell commercial goods into Iran."

The argument speaks to the principle of "double criminality" at the heart of extradition law: that a crime in the country seeking extradition should also be considered a crime in Canada.

'Nothing to do with Canada'

Besides — Meng's legal team says the lies she is accused of making allegedly took place in Hong Kong in the presence of non-Canadian bankers.

"Canada does not police the conduct of foreign persons in foreign lands that have nothing to do with Canada," the statement from the lawyers says.

Meng's lawyers refer back to Canada's 2002 decision — under then-Prime Minister Chrétien's leadership — not to join the U.S.-led coalition which invaded Iraq; they say Canada must occasionally depart from American foreign policy.

"Canadian governments have had to make difficult decisions, sometimes at odds with the foreign policy initiatives of its allies, including the United States, in order to assert essential Canadian values of human decency, fairness, tolerance and respect for human rights and the rule of law," the lawyers say.


Flanked by security and photographers, Meng Wanzhou leaves for B.C. Supreme Court on Wednesday, May 8, 2019. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

Beyond the press release from Meng's lawyers, the submissions to Lametti have not been made public.

The Department of Justice would not confirm receipt of the letter from Meng's legal team, but said "Canada is a country that respects the rule of law" in an emailed statement to CBC News.

The statement also cited the provisions of the Extradition Act in dealing with the case.

According to extradition procedure, the minister of justice has an opportunity to weigh in on a case once a decision has been made to commit a person for removal to another country.
Documents obtained by the CBC under Freedom of Information say Trudeau has also been told that there "are no examples of the Minister (of Justice) discharging a case for political or diplomatic reasons."

Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland's has rejected the notion of simply cancelling Meng's extradition at this point.

Meng is currently living under a form of house-arrest in one of two multi-million dollar homes she owns in Vancouver, after being released on $10 million bail.

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Philip Nicholson
We don't break the law for national interests (Justin take note). We uphold the rule of law because it is the right and ethical thing to do. 


David Amos
Reply to @Philip Nicholson: Whereas Trump i pounding on the drums of war again methinks its High Time I call all the lawyers again and send some more emails N'esy Pas? 


Abid Salman
Reply to @Philip Nicholson: Upholding the rule of law is a basic tenet of civilized society.
However, this basic tenet should be applied impartially and without a selective partisan touch.
What rule of law did Canada use to support the overthrow of the Venezuelan government, wage war on Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan ?
Civilized society requires the use of diplomacy to settle differences, where "genuine" national interests are concerned. Blindly following the bellicose rhetoric coming from the hawks in the US, is not being civilized.


David Amos
Reply to @Abid Salman: Well Put 

Roosevelt Smith
Love the threats China, we actually have something called rule of law here....  

David Amos
Reply to @Roosevelt Smith: "Love the threats China, we actually have something called rule of law here.."

Methinks lawyers should not bet the farm on your opinion until you have studied Federal Court File NO T-1557-15 and asked Justice Minister David Lametti why he has not responded to me yet N'esy Pas?  



























Joyce Hope Shortell
Bend to China's demands & we'll be a puppet on a string. 


David Amos
Reply to @Joyce Hope Shortell: Methinks you must prefer Trump as our puppet master N'esy Pas?




























Michael Jay
"Jean Chrétien floated the idea of Ottawa cancelling Meng's extradition as a way to thaw out hostile relations with China."

The extradition should be cancelled if it is unlawful or unwarranted and for no other reason!!!


David Amos
Reply to @Michael Jay: Methinks a lot of lawyers agree that it being unlawful and unwarranted are pretty good reasons to cancel the extradition nonsense N'esy Pas? 


























Oliver Watler
If Meng Wanzhou is confident of her innocence, then she should head to the USA tomorrow for trial and get this all over with. Why is she hanging out here for as long as possible?


David Amos
Reply to @Oliver Watler: Methinks you would do that same if you were her N'esy Pas? 

Thomas Carter
If she is innocent as all her supporters suggest then she has nothing to fear. Just let it work through the courts. A story last week stated that if she really wants to get this out of the way as fast as possible she should surrender to the US authorities which would eliminate the months of extradition hearings in Canada and go straight to trial in the US.

David Amos
Reply to @Thomas Carter: Yea Right
 


























Charles Brody
NO. Canada is a country governed by the rule of law and that is sacrosanct.


David Amos
Reply to @Charles Brody: Dream on




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Beijing suggests its snub of Canada will continue until Meng Wanzhou is released

Freeland dismisses idea of dropping extradition, says it would set a 'very dangerous precedent'

Philip Ling· CBC News· Posted: Jun 13, 2019 12:00 PM ET


Chinese President Xi Jinping shakes hands with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during the G20 Summit in Hangzhou, Zhejiang province, China, Sept. 4, 2016. (Damir Sagolj/Reuters)

The spiraling diplomatic row between Ottawa and Beijing "lies entirely with Canada," the Chinese foreign ministry said Thursday — suggesting for the first time that its leadership won't speak with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau until Canada drops extradition proceedings against a Chinese telecom executive.

CBC News reported Wednesday that Beijing ignored a personal attempt by Trudeau earlier this year to arrange a conversation with China's premier in order to intervene on behalf of Canadians detained in China. Trudeau's office confirms that the prime minister requested the meeting, but China ignored and ultimately rejected his request.

Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland told CBC Radio last month she also sought a meeting with her Chinese counterpart, Wang Yi, but was unsuccessful.

"What I can tell you is that the current setback China-Canada relations face are entirely caused by the Canadian side itself, and the responsibility lies entirely with Canada, too," said Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang, when asked whether the two rejections signal a diplomatic freeze between the two countries.

"We hope that Canada will take seriously our severe concerns and immediately release Ms. Meng Wanzhou, and actively take substantial measures to push China-Canada relations back on track as soon as possible."



Meng Wanzhou arrives at her home after attending court in Vancouver, British Columbia on Wednesday, May 8, 2019. (Ben Nelms/CBC)


This is the first overt link China has drawn between the diplomatic cold shoulder it's giving Canada and its demand that Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou be released from Canadian custody.

The RCMP apprehended Meng on Dec. 1 while she was changing planes in Vancouver, in response to a request from the United States for her extradition to face charges of fraud and violating international sanctions against Iran. She has been released on bail and is living in a multimillion-dollar Vancouver home in advance of her extradition hearing.

That same month, two Canadians — businessman Michael Spavor and former diplomat Michael Kovrig — were detained in China, a move widely seen as retaliation for Meng's arrest.
Former Canadian ambassador to China David Mulroney predicts there "won't be a resolution" to the current chill unless Meng is released.



"The Chinese have been very successful in creating the impression ... that a call or a meeting with one of their leaders is something that's good in itself, it's something that you should pay for in diplomatic terms, just to have the conversation," Mulroney told CBC News Network's Power & Politics on Wednesday.

"I think what they're doing is raising the pressure on the prime minister and communicating very subtly that until he has something to offer — namely, Madame Meng Wanzhou — he's not going to have a conversation. They're just going to let the pressure build."

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The Liberal government has been under increasing pressure, particularly from the opposition Conservatives, to reach out to the Chinese leadership.

Freeland has made it no secret that she repeatedly tried and failed to get a meeting with her counterpart, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi.

"If Chinese officials are listening to us today, let me repeat that I would be very, very keen to meet with Minister Wang Yi or to speak with him over the phone at the earliest opportunity,"she said on CBC Radio last month.

The prime minister has said he was considering "engaging directly" with Chinese President Xi Jinping as tensions between Canada and China continue.


"The opportunity to engage with the Chinese president directly is certainly something that we are looking at," Trudeau said June 6, citing the G20 Summit in Osaka, Japan later this month.



PM Justin Trudeau says he hopes that there will be an opportunity to engage with Chinese President Xi at the upcoming G20 meetings to discuss the ongoing dispute with that country. 0:55


Former prime minister Jean Chrétien has floated the idea of Ottawa cancelling Meng's extradition as way to thaw out hostile relations with China, the Globe and Mail reported Thursday.

Doing so would be an unprecedented act for a Canadian justice minister, according to a secret memo written to the prime minister shortly after Meng's arrest, obtained under access to information law by CBC News.
"There are no examples of the Minister (of Justice) discharging a case for political or diplomatic reasons," wrote Greta Bossenmaier, Trudeau's national security and intelligence adviser, on Dec. 17.

Speaking to reporters at the Canadian embassy in Washington today, Freeland carefully dismissed the idea of dropping Meng's extradition case, saying it would set a "very dangerous precedent" for Canada to "alter its behaviour when it comes to honouring an extradition treaty in response to external pressure."

"We could easily find ourselves in a situation where, by acting in a single specific case, we could actually make all Canadians around the world less safe," she said. "And that is a responsibility I take very seriously.

"When it comes to Ms. Meng, there has been no political interference. This has been entirely about officials taking decisions according to Canada's commitments, and that is the right way for extradition requests to proceed."

Last week, Chrétien said he is willing to go to China to negotiate an end to Canada's diplomatic impasse with Beijing if Trudeau asks him.



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Chrétien willing to visit China to talk trade and negotiate for the release of detainees: spokesperson

Former PM Mulroney floated the idea that Chrétien would be the best go-between

CBC News· Posted: Jun 07, 2019 5:58 PM ET


Former Prime Minister Jean Chretien leaves the stage after addressing well wishers at a reception celebrating 25 years since he was elected to his first term as prime minister in Ottawa, Thursday, October 25, 2018. (Fred Chartrand/Canadian Press)


Jean Chrétien is willing to go to China to negotiate an end to Canada's diplomatic impasse with Beijing if Prime Minister Justin Trudeau asks him, according to the former prime minister's spokesperson.

"If the prime minister asks Mr. Chrétien, he would be prepared to go to China to serve Canada at this difficult time to help our farmers and bring our two Canadians home," Bruce Hartley told CBC News.

Canada has been without an ambassador in China since John McCallum was fired in January after he made public comments concerning the ongoing court case against Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou.

The statement follows former Progressive Conservative prime minister Brian Mulroney's suggestion this week that the Trudeau government consider enlisting a former prime minister to lead a high-powered delegation to China to fight for the release of detained Canadians Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor.

"What they might want to do is take a look at sending over someone like Jean Chrétien, who has a lot of respect of the Chinese," Mulroney told The Canadian Press.
Chrétien's son-in-law André Desmarais, deputy chairman and co-CEO of Montreal's Power Corporation, is also the honorary chairman of the Canada-China Business Council.

Desmarais "is held in extremely high regard by the Chinese and probably knows more about China than any other living Canadian that's not in public life," said Mulroney.

"You could put a delegation together led by former prime minister Chrétien and a few others, but mostly Chrétien and Andy Desmarais, and go over there and sit down with people Jean has grown up with in politics who hold senior positions, leadership positions, in the government of China and say, 'Hey, let's get this done.'"

Chrétien's China ties

Kovrig, a diplomat on leave to work for a non-governmental organization, and Spavor, an entrepreneur, are under arrest in China facing allegations of espionage and endangering national security. Canada has called their imprisonment arbitrary and has whipped up international condemnation over their cases.



Michael Spavor, left, and former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig, right, have been formally arrested in China, following months of detention. (The Associated Press/International Crisis Group/The Canadian Press)


Many former diplomats and China-watchers see their plight as retribution for Canada's decision to arrest Meng on an extradition request from the U.S.

China also has blocked some Canadian canola shipments and is cracking down on other Canadian agricultural exports.

Ottawa won't comment about the prospect of sending Canadian envoys to China.
"This is not the first time we've been asked the question, but we don't have any announcements planned or decisions planned in the near future," Trudeau's spokesperson, Cameron Ahmad, told The Canadian Press.

In his post-political life, Chrétien has remained engaged in China-related issues in his work with the law firm Dentons. In April 2016, he made headlines when he met with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang.

"Premier Li noted that China-Canada relations developed into a 'golden decade' during Mr. Chrétien's administration, and that China appreciates Mr. Chrétien's contributions to promote the development of China-Canada relations," said a statement accompanying a photo of the two men warmly shaking hands, on the website of the Chinese government's State Council.


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Mulroney urges government to send Chrétien to China to win release of detainees

Canada should use former prime ministers as the U.S. uses its former presidents, Mulroney says

Mike Blanchfield· The Canadian Press· Posted: Jun 06, 2019 6:28 PM ET


Then-prime minister Jean Chrétien, right, applauds former prime minister Brian Mulroney during an unveiling of the latter's official portrait on Parliament Hill in 2002. Mulroney says Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should use Chrétien to help broker diplomatic peace with China. (Tom Hanson/Canadian Press)

Former prime minister Brian Mulroney says the government should enlist a former prime minister to lead a high-powered delegation to China to win the release of two imprisoned Canadians — but not him.

"What they might want to do is take a look at sending over someone like Jean Chrétien, who has a lot of respect of the Chinese," Mulroney told The Canadian Press.

Mulroney said the former Liberal prime minister should be accompanied by another well-placed Canadian: Chrétien's son-in-law André Desmarais, the deputy chairman and co-CEO of Montreal's Power Corporation. Desmarais is also the honorary chairman of the Canada-China Business Council.
Desmarais "is held in extremely high regard by the Chinese and probably knows more about China than any other living Canadian that's not in public life," said Mulroney.

"You could put a delegation together led by former prime minister Chrétien and a few others, but mostly Chrétien and Andy Desmarais, and go over there and sit down with people Jean has grown up with in politics, who hold senior positions, leadership positions, in the government of China and say, 'Hey, let's get this done,'" said Mulroney.

Ex-diplomat Michael Kovrig and entrepreneur Michael Spavor are under arrest in China facing allegations of espionage and endangering national security. Their imprisonment has sparked international condemnation that their detention is arbitrary, but China has rebuffed the government's many attempts to engage on the matter.
Many see their imprisonment as retribution for Canada's decision to arrest Chinese high-tech scion Meng Wangzhou on an extradition request from the U.S. China has also barred some Canadian canola shipments and is cracking down on other agricultural exports.

Rumours of such a delegation of special Canadian envoys to China have been circulating in Ottawa, but it hasn't happened so far.

"This is not the first time we've been asked the question, but we don't have any announcements planned or decisions planned in the near future," said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's spokesman, Cameron Ahmad.


A Power Corp. spokesman said Desmarais declined to comment, while a spokesman for Chrétien did not reply to a request for comment.

Revisiting Team Canada

Mulroney has also advised the current Liberal government on the renegotiation of the North American Free Trade Agreement. The former Progressive Conservative leader was granted unprecedented access to a Liberal cabinet meeting to advise on how to deal with U.S. President Donald Trump — a neighbour Mulroney befriended in their Florida vacation communities.

But regarding who has the ear of China, Mulroney deferred to his one-time political opponent, who clashed with him as the leader of the official Opposition in the early 1990s.

During his 10 years as prime minister, Chrétien made half a dozen trips to China. He rebooted Canadian relations with the People's Republic after a long pause following the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, in which the Chinese military killed hundreds, perhaps thousands, of unarmed student protesters.

Chrétien also created the Team Canada concept, leading delegations of provincial premiers and business leaders to China to grease the wheels of new business deals.

Following the U.S. example

In his post-political life, Chrétien has remained actively engaged in China-related issues in his work with the law firm Dentons. His frequents visits to China occasionally garner headlines, including an April 2016 visit when he met with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang.


"Premier Li noted that China-Canada relations developed into a 'golden decade' during Mr. Chrétien's administration, and that China appreciates Mr. Chrétien's contributions to promote the development of China-Canada relations," said a statement accompanying a photo of the two men warmly shaking hands, on the website of the Chinese government's State Council.

Desmarais's August 2016 visit to Beijing was also noted on the Canada-China Business Council's website with a photo supplied by China's state-controlled Xinhua news agency, which depicts his smiling handshake with Chinese Vice-Premier Wang Yang.

Power Corp. has had ties with China's largest business conglomerate dating back to the mid-1980s, when Mulroney was in power in Canada.
In 2017, the company further entrenched that relationship by buying an additional 3.9-per-cent equity interest in China Asset Management Co. Ltd., also known as China AMC. The deal brought Power Corp.'s equity interest in China AMC to 13.9 per cent.

China AMC is an affiliate of CITIC Group Corporation Ltd., which is "China's largest conglomerate, with which Power Corporation has had an association since 1986," said a company statement.

Mackenzie Investments, an indirect subsidiary of Power, also completed a 13.9-per-cent acquisition in China AMC in separate transactions in late 2016 and early 2017.

"Power Corp. and Mackenzie Investments therefore hold a combined 27.8-per-cent interest in China AMC," said a Power Corp. statement.

Mulroney acknowledged that his suggestion has echoes of the 2009 visit that former U.S. president Bill Clinton made to North Korea, where he was able to secure the release of two imprisoned journalists. He suggested there might be a lesson for Canada in how the U.S. sometimes taps its ex-presidents for delicate diplomacy.

"They know how to use their former leaders."



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John McCallum fired as ambassador to China amid diplomatic crisis

McCallum forced to walk back remarks he made regarding Meng Wanzhou's extradition

Catharine Tunney· CBC News· Posted: Jan 26, 2019 2:45 PM ET


Canadian Ambassador to China John McCallum is shown at the Liberal cabinet meeting in Sherbrooke, Que., on Jan. 16. He has since been fired. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)


John McCallum has been fired as Canada's ambassador to China.

"Last night I asked for and accepted John McCallum's resignation as Canada's Ambassador to China," Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in a statement Saturday.

A spokesperson for the prime minister confirmed Trudeau delivered the news to McCallum himself.

The statement didn't offer a reason for the removal, which comes in the middle of a diplomatic crisis with China. It caps off an especially tough week for McCallum after he controversially waded into the extradition request against Meng Wanzhou, an executive with Chinese telecom company Huawei.
On Tuesday McCallum, a longtime Liberal, was quoted telling a gathering of Chinese-language journalists in Toronto that he thought she had a strong case to fight extradition to the U.S. and listed several arguments he thought could help her with her case.

On Thursday, he said he misspoke with those statements.

Then, just the next day, he told a StarMetro Vancouver reporter it would be "great for Canada" if the United States dropped their extradition request against the Huawei executive.

He also repeated a comment that if the U.S. and China make a deal on Meng's case, it should include the release of the two Canadian men detained in China.

"We have to make sure that if the U.S. does such a deal, it also includes the release of our two people. And the U.S. is highly aware of that," McCallum told the Star Friday.



Andrew Scheer✔@AndrewScheer
It should never have come to this. Justin Trudeau should have fired his ambassador the moment he interfered in this case. Instead, he did nothing and allowed more damage to be done. More weakness and more indecision from Trudeau on China. 
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Former ambassador to China Guy Saint-Jacques said he believes it was the latest round of comments that prompted his firing.

"Unfortunately I think the prime minister had no choice but to ask for the resignation of Mr. McCallum," he said.

"He should have shown a bit more restraint, in my view."

The firing appears to put the government's China policy in disarray just days before the U.S. makes a final decision on extraditing Meng and comes at a time that Canada faces difficulties in its relationships with Russia, India, Saudi Arabia and China. These days its historical ally in the White House is often at odds with Canadian foreign policy.

Weakness on this file: Scheer

The decision came too late for Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer who had called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to fire McCallum earlier in the week, following his first set of comments.

At the time Trudeau brushed off the call, saying his government's focus is on getting detained Canadians Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor released from China and recalling McCallum wouldn't achieve that.

"This decision should have been made days ago. Instead [Trudeau has] shown weakness on this file and damaged Canada's reputation and our ability to handle this very important issue where Canadians' treatment in China is being affected by this," Scheer told reporters Saturday.



The NDP's foreign affairs critic, Hélène Laverdière, said McCallum's inappropriate statements could complicate the file.

"This chaos has not helped Canadians abroad and has caused confusion everywhere," she said in a statement.

"In addition, we remain concerned about President Trump's statements that he would use this extradition as a bargaining chip in his trade negotiations. We believe that the legal process must follow its course without interference from anyone."
 
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For now, Jim Nickel, deputy head of mission at the Embassy of Canada in Beijing, will represent Canada in China as chargé d'affaires.

Saint-Jacques said the search for a new ambassador in Beijing could take months, straining an already fractured relationship.

"It really complicates things. In my view, this crisis is the worst we have seen with China since we established diplomatic relations back in 1970," he said.


"There is a risk of more turbulence in the months ahead."

'Play it very delicately'

Lynette Ong, a professor of political science at the University of Toronto's Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy, said McCallum was liked in China, making explaining his removal difficult.

When McCallum took over the Beijing posting following a 2017 cabinet shuffle, he eagerly pointed out his strong personal connection to China. His wife is ethnically Chinese and he had a large Chinese-Canadian constituency in his former federal riding in Markham, Ont.

"I think we need to play it very delicately with the Chinese," Ong said.

"Firing someone that they could actually trust, I think we need to do some explanation to the Chinese authorities. We also need to be tough but at the same time assertive to the United States that they really need to jump in here to help us get out of the situation to secure the release of the two Canadians."

Watch: China demands release of Huawei CFO



A Chinese official is accusing Canada and the U.S. of abusing the extradition system after the U.S. Department of Justice says it will formally ask Canada to extradite the chief financial officer of Chinese tech giant, Huawei. That announcement ensures a drawn-out, bitter dispute between the three countries. 2:48

In his statement, Trudeau thanked McCallum for his years of service, including his time as immigration and refugees minister.

"For almost two decades, John McCallum has served Canadians honourably and with distinction," he wrote.

"His work as minister of immigration, refugees and citizenship in bringing in over 39,500 Syrian refugees remains an inspiration to Canadians and an example to the world. I thank him and his family for his service over the past many years."

The Liberal party's Quebec MPs were meeting today in Quebec City, but offered no more details.

"I wanted to just thank John McCallum for all his work for Canada. [I] had the chance to sit with him for many years in Ottawa," said Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez.


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4552 Comments
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Robert Bransfield
So we had many people on the Right outraged that he was still an ambassador and that the Prime minister hadn't asked for him to step down. Now that he was requested to step down, will they acknowledge this or will they simply move on and attack from another front?
 

Edward (E) Merij
McCallum is an old hack from the Chretien days. And Chretien was, of course, connected to JT's Dad. So McCallum is in a way, connected to P.E.T. There's a bunch of these old Liberal dinosaurs still hanging around. Maybe the only reason McCallum got the China file in the first place was to repay political favours. Who knows. It's all backroom politics which we, the rabble, will never be privy to.


David Amos
@Edward (E) Merij Methinks folks really should read statement 83 of my lawsuit that I filed in Federal Court while running in the election of the 42nd Parliament when Harper was the Prime Minister and Trudeau was just another dude who became the leader of the third party N'esy Pas?























Edward Waye
Andrew Scheer is a joke!


David Amos 
@Edward Waye "Andrew Scheer is a joke!"

YUP but methinks he is just one clown in a rather silly circus N'esy Pas?
 

John Good
Must be a nice cold Canadian day Lots of conservatives. stuck inside with nothing to do or say


David Amos
@John Good Methinks folks must have noticed a pack of upset liberals too N'esy Pas?






















Rob Frost
Nice to see Trudeau acting on Scheers recommendation. 


David Amos
@Rob Frost "Nice to see Trudeau acting on Scheers recommendation."

Methinks nobody should be surprised to know what really happened if they had bothered to read my other comments and this old news N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/weston-canada-offered-to-aid-iraq-invasion-wikileaks-1.1062501


Carson Brook
@David R. Amos
interesting - others have suggested readers google David R. Amos ....
and I add the voice "yes, do that" where would there be any justification in 'disabling' a good useful suggestion which gets posted by others 
 

David Amos
@Carson Brook "interesting - others have suggested readers google David R. Amos "

Methinks you would never have voted for me either particularly when I don't exist to most readers N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

 
Stephen George
@David R. Amos
PLease go away.





















Rob Frost
I hope Canadians fire Trudeau in October. There can't be enough liberal firings. By the way, thanks for all the debt Trudeau.  


Doug Allan
@Wayne Underhill
Of course not. Their economic stimulus program kept Canada having the strongest economy of the G8. And the Liberals and NDP both complained loudly (at the time) that Harper wasn’t spending enough. But Liberals and NDPers want you to forget that.


David Amos
@Doug Allan "But Liberals and NDPers want you to forget that"

.Methinks what the former Speaker of of the House aka Harper 2.0 should be worried about is that I have a very long memory and the Federal Court keeps pretty good records in its docket N'esy Pas?























Reid Fleming
In 2019, Canadian voters will ask for, and accept, Trudeau's resignation...  


David Amos
@Reid Fleming Methinks you seem bitter about something N'esy Pas? 





















Barry Marshall
Should have done it right after he put his foot in his mouth and not after backtracking. 


David Amos
@Barry Marshall YUP  




















Scott Wilson
Just as I suspected John McCallum didn't even consult with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau before he made a statement on a very sensitive issue and made the situation even more political than it already was. 


David Amos
@Chris Harris "Trudeau's a checker player at a world class chess tournament."

Methinks you hold him in higher regard than a lot of other commenters including yours truly N'esy Pas?  




















Rory Cain
What a bumbling mess leadership is in this country. It is hard to believe this is the best we have.


David Amos
@Rory Cain Methinks the lawyers Maxime Bernier and Jagmeet Singh and many other political pundits would agree that Harper 2.0 is no better than Trudeau the Younger N'esy Pas?






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McCallum says dropping Meng extradition would be 'great' for Canada: report

Arrest of Huawei CFO in Vancouver on Dec. 1 has damaged relations between Canada and China

The Canadian Press· Posted: Jan 26, 2019 12:43 AM ET




Canadian Ambassador to China John McCallum said it would be "great" if the U.S. dropped its extradition request. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)


A media report is quoting Canada's ambassador to China as saying it would be "great for Canada" if the United States drops an extradition request against a Huawei executive, the day after he apologized for a politically explosive slip of the tongue when discussing the case.

StarMetro Vancouver says John McCallum made the comment today to one of its reporters during a charity luncheon in downtown Vancouver.
The comment follows an apology McCallum issued Thursday, saying he misspoke earlier in the week when he told a group of Chinese-language journalists in Toronto about Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou, listing several arguments he thought could help her with her case.

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer had called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to fire McCallum, saying the remarks raised concerns about the politicization of the Meng case but Trudeau came to McCallum's defence.
Trudeau said his government's focus is on getting detained Canadians Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor home safely from China and ensuring their rights are respected and recalling McCallum wouldn't achieve that.

Global Affairs Canada did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Canada's ambassador to China says Meng has strong defence to fight extradition

Conservatives condemn John McCallum's comment that Huawei executive has 'quite good arguments on her side'

John Paul Tasker· CBC News· Posted: Jan 23, 2019 8:53 AM ET



Canadian Ambassador to China John McCallum says Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou has good arguments to fight extradition to the United States. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)

Canada's top diplomat in China says the Huawei executive arrested in Vancouver at the request of the United States has a strong case to fight extradition, a position that has prompted backlash from the Conservative opposition in Ottawa who say this sort of interference by an ambassador should not be tolerated by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Meng Wanzhou, the 46-year-old chief financial officer of the telecom giant, has "quite good arguments on her side," John McCallum said at a news conference with Canadian and state-owned Chinese-language media in Markham, Ont., on Tuesday.

"One, political involvement by comments from Donald Trump in her case. Two, there's an extraterritorial aspect to her case, and three, there's the issue of Iran sanctions which are involved in her case, and Canada does not sign on to these Iran sanctions. So I think she has some strong arguments that she can make before a judge," he said in his opening remarks.

McCallum said a judge will ultimately make the decision on whether she should be extradited, and stressed there has been "zero involvement" by the federal government.

"It's purely a judicial process. There may come a time when the justice minister is required to give a view, but that will not be for some months to come," he said.
"I know this has angered China, but we have a system of extradition treaty, a system of rules of law, which are above the government. The government cannot change these things, and as I said, I think Ms. Meng has quite a strong case."

Despite those assurances, the Liberal government to this point has not weighed in on the merits of the case or offered an opinion on the possible legal avenues her counsel could pursue in court.
In fact, before McCallum's remarks Tuesday, the government had studiously avoided discussing the facts of the case in public.
If I were prime minister I would fire John McCallum.
- Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dodged a question Wednesday when asked whether he agrees with his ambassador's assessment that Meng is well-positioned to argue against extradition to the U.S.


"Canada is a country of the rule of law, and we will make sure the rule of law is properly and fully followed. That includes the opportunity for her to mount a strong defence. That is part of our justice system," he said during a press conference in La Loche, Sask.

Meng is accused of violating U.S. sanctions against Iran through a Huawei subsidiary.
 
Watch as Trudeau is asked about McCallum's comments:


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke to the CBC's Bridget Yard in La Loche Saskatchewan on Wednesday 1:06

Meng's case has drawn international attention, and sparked diplomatic tensions between Canada and China.

McCallum, who spoke only to Chinese-language journalists Tuesday without providing advanced knowledge to mainstream media outlets, said the Meng case has angered Chinese President Xi Jinping personally.

"I do know that President Xi Jinping was very angry about this and so others in the Chinese government have taken the lead from him, and I don't know exactly why," McCallum said of the Communist party leader.


"Maybe it's because Huawei is a national flagship company of China. It's not just any company; it's a special Chinese company. So, maybe that is why he is so angry."

After McCallum's comments surfaced in the mainstream media, a spokesperson for Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland said Canada is committed to pursuing a fair and transparent legal proceeding.

"There has been no political involvement in this process. Canada respects its international legal commitments, including by honouring its extradition treaty with the United States," Adam Austen said.

Scheer calls McCallum's comments 'unacceptable'

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said it was "completely unacceptable" for McCallum — a former minister in Trudeau's government before he was appointed Canadian envoy in Beijing — to insert himself into a legal process that is playing out in a B.C. court.

"John McCallum, as ambassador, has a very special place in this whole dynamic. He's not someone with an opinion, or a professor opining. He's the spokesperson for the government of Canada in the very country where we have this situation. This is an independent process and something that could very well be seen as inference," Scheer said in an interview with CBC News Network's Power & Politics Wednesday.

"If I were prime minister I would fire John McCallum," Scheer added, saying such a move would bolster Canada's claim that it takes the independence of its judicial system seriously.



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"If I were Prime Minister, I would fire John McCallum," says 
@AndrewScheer after @HonJohnMcCallum's comments that 
Huawei executive has 'quite good arguments on her side'
 
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Erin O'Toole, the Conservative foreign affairs critic, said McCallum's comments, which were made after a meeting with the prime minister and his cabinet on the matter, inevitably raises questions about political interference in sensitive legal proceedings.

"Did Trudeau instruct the ambassador to make these statements? Did the Liberals exclude Canadian media from the press conference to limit scrutiny? Why did the ambassador not raise these issues when he met with MPs?" O'Toole tweeted.



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For Ambassador McCallum to comment in detail on the legal merits 
of an extradition case after closed door meetings with the Liberal cabinet 
on the subject raises questions of political interference. 1/3 
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"The Conservatives have urged more strategic outreach to Chinese media, but with a focus on the fair process and friendly treatment of Meng Wanzhou without assessing the legal merits of her case," he said.

David Mulroney, a former Canadian ambassador in China, said McCallum's comments to Chinese-language media were "almost impossible to understand."

The comments come a day after Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying said Canada and the U.S. have abused the extradition agreement in Meng's case.

David MacNaughton, Canada's ambassador to the U.S., confirmed to CBC News that U.S. officials have indicated to him they will soon file the formal request needed in the extradition case.


There is a Jan. 30 deadline to complete this work.

Canadians detained in China

Canadians Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor have been detained in China in what Trudeau has described as "arbitrary" detentions in retaliation for Meng's arrest. Chinese officials has said only that the two men are accused of "engaging in activities endangering national security."

Another Canadian, Robert Schellenberg, recently had his 15-year sentence for drug smuggling changed to a death sentence by a Chinese court after a retrial.

McCallum said there had been great progress in strengthening Canada-China relations before Meng's case erupted.

He said while it is a "difficult time" in bilateral relations, officials and business leaders should continue to move forward.
 
Canada has issued a travel advisory for China that warns of arbitrary detention, and China has reciprocated with its own warning about Canada. Citing the "arbitrary detention" of a Chinese national at the request of a "third-party country," China asked citizens to "fully evaluate risks" and exercise caution when travelling to Canada.


McCallum said the government is not saying don't go to China, but rather that each person must make a personal decision after evaluating the situation. If someone has a history of running afoul of Chinese laws, it's probably not a good idea to go, but ordinary tourists or business people should have no reason not to travel there, he said.


With files from the CBC's Kathleen Harris and Philip Ling

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Jay Bertsch
 I really don't think an Ambassador should be publicly weighing in an a judicial matter. These words could backfire. 


David Amos
@Jay Bertsch Methinks John McCallum's words about the War on Iraq backfired long ago and I proved it in my lawsuit in 2015 Thats why Trudeau shipped him off to China after the last election N'esy Pas?
 

Al Kennedy
@David R. Amos
You have piqued my interest. What was that lawsuit about?  


David Amos
@Al Kennedy I just noticed that my reply to you was blocked. Try googling David Amos Federal Court






















Richard Prior
What is McCallum doing even discussing the case let alone giving her a leg up? I had always thought diplomats were suppose to be neutral 


David Allan
@Steve Prior
" I had always thought diplomats were suppose to be neutral"

Where did you get that idea?
It's patently false.

Do you really think our ambassadors aren't supposed to have our national interest at heart?

What do you think an ambassador is? 


David Amos 
@David Allan Methinks many politicians can recall that this is not the first time your hero has been in diplomatic hot water N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/weston-canada-offered-to-aid-iraq-invasion-wikileaks-1.1062501

"From the outset, the Chrétien government said a "few" Canadian soldiers embedded with the U.S. and British militaries as exchange officers would be allowed to remain in their positions, even if they wound up in Iraq.

While the revelation caused a ruckus in Parliament, it all sounded relatively innocuous at the time.

But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command, including a Canadian general.

That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff, who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000 U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait.

The Department of National Defence refused to comment on Natynczyk's role, if any, in the invasion of Iraq."




















Leslie Green
MacCallum is Canada's ambassador to China. He should be working on securing the release of Canadians held in China. Instead of that he seems to be acting as China's ambassador to Canada 


David Amos
@Leslie Green YUP 



















Carol Becker
I hope she does get off. The more I read the more I feel the Canadian government was used by the US as scapegoats. 


David Amos
@Carol Becker Me Too 




















betty einweiss
hey people..America is our largest trading partner NOT china...some of you may not like Trump but that doesn't change the fact that we need the US more than china 


David Amos
@betty einweiss True However methinks that Mr Trump and his minions do not understand the rule of law N'esy Pas? 






















Daryl McBride
This government is terrible at diplomacy.


David Amos 
@Daryl McBride True 



















betty einweiss
regarding his appearance at a news conference with"Canadian Chinese-language media in Markham"
two sets of messages here? 1) we will uphold the law (for everyone else) or
2) she has a strong defense - so don't worry ( for people of chinese descent who happen to live in Canada)
get some balls McCallum, or are you afraid the chinese will grab you next?  


David Amos
@betty einweiss Methinks Mr McCallum and his many cohorts wish to forget that the Department of Foreign Affairs did nothing for me when the Yankees threatened to take in to Gitmo in April of 2003 after I won some judgements in Yankee courts and then laughed at me in October of 2004 in a Yankee jail where I was being held in solitary confinement under the charges of "Other" after I ran for a seat in the 38th Parliament N'esy Pas?  
























Rick Nielsen
Attaboy McCallum, undercut your own citizens who are being brutalized by China.

Now, if Meng is in fact extradited to the US, the Chinese will use McCallum's comments to justify continued vicious treatment of the Canadian hostages by their Chinese kidnappers.

What is it with Liberal politicians that they just cannot grasp the concept of whose interests they are supposed to be working for?

McCallum's ONLY concern should be in obtaining the release of the Canadian hostages.


David Amos 
@Ross Beatty I wholeheartedly agree Sir 
 

Marc Desbiens
McCallum is way out of line. This is a judicial matter, not a political one. The Liberals berated Trump for over stepping the same line. Liberals are caving to Chinese pressure. I would rather a government that represents Canadians!


David Amos
@Marc Desbiens "I would rather a government that represents Canadians!"

Me Too




https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/china-us-abusing-extradition-system-huawei-1.4987603




China accuses U.S., Canada of abusing extradition system in Huawei case

U.S. Department of Justice says it will 'meet all deadlines' in Meng extradition case

CBC News· Posted: Jan 22, 2019 5:54 AM ET






Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou was released on bail after she was detained in B.C. by Canadian officials at the request of the U.S. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)


A Chinese official is accusing Canada and the U.S. of abusing the extradition system after the Globe and Mail published a report saying officials in the U.S. soon will proceed with a formal extradition request for Meng Wanzhou.

The 46-year-old CFO of telecom giant Huawei was arrested in B.C. in December at the request of U.S. officials, who accuse her of violating sanctions against Iran through a Huawei subsidiary.

David MacNaughton, Canada's ambassador to the U.S., confirmed to CBC News early Tuesday that U.S. officials have indicated to him they will soon file the formal request needed in the extradition case. There is a Jan. 30 deadline to complete this work.


Meng's case has drawn international attention and sparked diplomatic tensions between Canada and China.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying on Tuesday said that both countries had abused the extradition agreement in Meng's case.

Anyone with fair judgment would determine that Canada made a "serious mistake" in this matter, she told a regular news briefing.

She also had strong words for the U.S., saying that China strongly urges the U.S. to correct its "mistake," cancel the arrest order for Meng and abandon a formal extradition request.

Asked if China would retaliate against the United States if Meng is extradited, Hua said, "China will, of course, respond to U.S. actions." She did not elaborate.

No backing down

The United States, however, showed no signs of backing away from its desire to have Meng extradited.












"We will continue to pursue the extradition of defendant Ms. Meng Wanzhou, and will meet all deadlines set by the US/Canada Extradition Treaty," Department of Justice spokesman Marc Raimondi told CBC in an email.

"We greatly appreciate Canada's continuing support in our mutual efforts to enforce the rule of law.




Power & Politics✔@PnPCBC
The U.S. says it will meet the Jan. 30 deadline to pursue the extradition 
of CFO Meng Wanzhou. Former senior  state department
 official @mikehfuchs says the move shows that Canada and the U.S. 
"are not going to be bullied" by China's retaliatory actions.
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7:20 PM - Jan 22, 2019


Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, speaking Tuesday on the sidelines of the Davos economic summit in Switzerland, said that Meng is facing these legal troubles not because she is offside with Canadian law but rather because the U.S. is hoping to press criminal charges of its own.

"The Canadian legal system is fair and impartial to everyone ... the detention of Ms. Meng is not about a Canadian case against her. She is neither charged or convicted of anything in Canada. We have an extradition treaty with the U.S., we share with the U.S. the largest demilitarized border and Canada is a rule-of-law country and we act and honour our international treaty commitments," Freeland said in an interview with Bloomberg TV.

Canada gathering international support

"It's a decision for the United States whether to seek extradition of someone from Canada, whether it is a Canadian or a visitor. That's up to them. Then they have to make the case for extradition in our legal system."

Freeland said she would not pass judgment on the U.S. criminal case against Meng to this point — something that will have to be presented by month's end — saying it is a matter for the Canadian courts to review before authorizing a possible extradition.







Freeland said a meeting with Chinese officials while in Davos is still a possibility. "We'll see," she said.

Not long after Meng's arrest, Canadians Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor were detained in China. Officials there have offered few specifics about what they are accused of, saying only that the men are accused of "engaging in activities endangering national security."
Spavor is a businessman who founded a company that arranged tours of North Korea. Kovrig is a former diplomat who was working as an adviser with the non-profit International Crisis Group. Canada's ambassador to China, John McCallum, recently said the men face up to four hours a day of interrogation and have no access to legal counsel.

The federal government has been trying to rally support for its efforts to assist the Canadian detainees, making nearly 20 calls to major international leaders about the issue.

Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig are still being held in China, where authorities say they are accused of offences that would endanger national security. (The Associated Press/International Crisis Group/The Canadian Press)
The government also has expressed concern about the case of Robert Schellenberg, who appealed a 15-year sentence he was given by a Chinese court after being convicted in a drug smuggling case.  After a retrial, a Chinese court announced he now faces a death sentence.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau took issue with the new sentence. "It is of extreme concern to us as a government, as it should be to all our international friends and allies, that China has chosen to begin to arbitrarily apply [the] death penalty ... as in this case facing a Canadian," he said.






Meng, the daughter of Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei, was released on $10 million bail in December after three days of hearings. Her bail conditions include a requirement that she live at a house owned by her husband, and must be in that home between 11 p.m. and 6 a.m.

Her bail also required her to surrender her passport and submit to 24/7 monitoring, which she is paying for herself.


With files from the CBC's Katie Simpson, John Paul Tasker, Reuters, The Associated Press

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https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/28/huawei-us-meng-wanzhou-doj/










US announces criminal charges against Huawei, seeks to extradite its CFO

Taylor Hatmaker@tayhatmaker /
Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker Holds News Conference To Announce A Law Enforcement Against China


In a press event today, the U.S. Department of Justice revealed that it is pursuing criminal charges against Chinese mobile giant Huawei. Following a story from The Wall Street Journal earlier this month, TechCrunch previously reported that the indictments were set to be unsealed soon.

A grand jury in Seattle has charged Huawei with conspiracy to steal trade secrets, attempted theft of trade secrets, seven counts of wire fraud and one count of obstruction of justice for the company’s alleged attempts to move potential witnesses back to China. The indictments grew out of a civil suit dating all the way back to 2014 in which T-Mobile sued Huawei for stealing trade secrets related to a robotic phone-testing device known as “Tappy.”

“As I told Chinese officials in August, China must hold its citizens and Chinese companies accountable for complying with the law,” Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker said.
In addition to the company itself, Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou and Huawei affiliates Skycom Huawei Device USA also face charges in a 13-count indictment from a grand jury in New York. Meng, the daughter of the company’s founder, faces charges of bank fraud, wire fraud and conspiracy to commit bank and wire fraud.

In December, Canada arrested the Huawei executive on charges related to deceptive practices designed to skirt U.S. sanctions against Iran. She remained free on bail in Vancouver as Canada waited for the U.S. to make a formal request for her extradition before a January 30 deadline.

Tensions between the U.S. and China have escalated considerably over the last year, with U.S. agencies and lawmakers increasingly cautioning that Huawei poses a major security threat. Still, the U.S. has yet to furnish proof of its claims. The conspicuous absence points to the fact that the U.S. is likely wary of allowing China to participate in building out the infrastructure for 5G mobile networks to prevent future spying — even if it lacks proof that China is leveraging its hardware for spying against domestic interests now. Pursuing aggressive criminal charges against the company is another way to make the point that Huawei’s hardware is off limits for the U.S. and its allies.

“To the detriment of American ingenuity, Huawei continually disregarded the laws of the United States in the hopes of gaining an unfair economic advantage,” FBI Director Christopher Wray said in the announcement. “As the volume of these charges prove, the FBI will not tolerate corrupt businesses that violate the laws that allow American companies and the United States to thrive.”






























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Fundy Royal flips for just second time in a century

Alaina Lockhart defeats Rob Moore to take Conservative stronghold of Fundy Royal

CBC News Posted: Oct 20, 2015 6:40 AM AT


Alaina Lockhart locks hands with her husband Rick before he hoisted it into the air.
Alaina Lockhart locks hands with her husband Rick before he hoisted it into the air. (Redmond Shannon/CBC)

Liberal Alaina Lockhart beat Conservative Rob Moore on Monday in the riding of Fundy Royal and seized what has been a Conservative stronghold riding since 1917.

The only other Liberal win there was with Paul Zed in 1993 when Kim Campbell's Progressive Conservatives were reduced to only two seats across Canada.

In a wrap-around riding that touches the outskirts of the more urban-based ridings of Fredericton, Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe and Saint John Rothesay, the rural New Brunswick voters of Fundy Royal have reliably cast their ballots for the Tories time after time.

Defeated incumbent Rob Moore, the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency minister in Stephen Harper's government, stopped by Lockhart's campaign party to wish her well.

Rob-Moore-Alaina-LockhartDefeated Conservative incumbent Rob Moore wishes Alaina Lockhart well in her new role as MP. (Redmond Shannon/CBC)
"Certainly [we see] strong Liberal results in Atlantic Canada and that's why I was here tonight, to congratulate Alaina on her new role as a member of Parliament," said Moore.

Lockhart, standing in a loud, crowded Smitty's Restaurant on Main Street in Sussex, could not stop smiling while speaking with CBC News.

"There's lots of work to be done here and we have lots of potential here and I'm excited to represent the area in Ottawa," said Lockhart.

Lockhart has sold wedding gowns in the town of Sussex since 2004 in her shop — also on Main Street — Lockhart's Wedding & Special Occasions.

Lockhart said taking the riding was something she and her team believed in — with caution.
"I think everybody was very realistic about what the history of this riding was and it took a tremendous amount of hard work and hope," she said.

"There were a lot of people behind me that really did feel that we had an opportunity here and believed and worked really hard over the last several months."

Those believers included Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau, who made a stop in the riding Oct. 7, showing the party thought there was a real chance voters were looking for a change.

In an interview with CBC News during the campaign, Lockhart said she was appealing to the middle class.

"That's the majority of Fundy Royal," said Lockhart. "People working everyday to make ends meet."

"The fact that we have a national campaign focused on strengthening the middle class to put more money in their pockets to then stimulate the economy, I'm encouraged by that," she said.

Standing in Smitty's but poised to take her seat in Ottawa, Lockhart reiterated her enthusiasm.

"I'm tremendously excited. This is an opportunity for our area for Atlantic Canada and for Fundy Royal," she said.



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David Amos 
HMMM Howcome nobody bothered to thank Mean Old Me for helping to take the wind out Rob Moore's sails???.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

Oh Yea that right for the FIFTH time the CROWN CORP known as CBC refused to admit I existed on the ballot until the Election was history. However I did explain things on CJCW the local radio station Friday Correct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgTsmzbasCA

You can bet that Trudeau "The Younger" knows why I saved this webpage N'esy Pas?


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Nivrek
@David Amos
Hey grandstander, nobody likes anyone who is always pointing out the obvious. Go blow your horn where only you can hear it.













Bookman
Bookman 
Dear 'churchies': please remove the blue signs from your lawns. We don't want to be reminded of the bigotry and ignorance of our fellow citizens any longer.

Sanford&Son
Sanford&Son
@Bookman You probably have no idea how ironic that statement is.


dominofalling
dominofalling 
@Sanford&Son I grew up in the riding I know exactly what @Bookman is talking about. The ignorance and bigotry runs deep. There are tons of 'folks' who are nice to your face, but hate on gays and people of color in their talk. Almost all of them are heavy church goers..so where is this irony you are talking about?


CBC, Goebbels - No Difference
CBC, Goebbels - No Difference 
@dominofalling The irony is that Bookman is intolerant of intolerance.


Mollydog
Mollydog 
@CBC, Goebbels - No Difference
Go away buddy. You lost, go lick your wounds.


Mollydog
Mollydog 
@Sanford&Son
So where does it end ? Should we all just shut our mouths to bigotry because people like you don't want to face it?


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CBC, Goebbels - No Difference 
@Mollydog Where did I say I have anything but utter contempt for Harper? Real "small c" conservatives who don't see the value in lies, deceit and the treasonous selling out of our economy to the corporate/banking sector want nothing to do with him. Stephen Harper is a neocon - please don't confuse him or his maniacal, ideological supporters with real conservatism.















w8n4it 
w8n4it 
For Fundy Royal to turn on the conservatives is extremely telling. Rob Moore didn't do anything wrong, though. He just didn't do anything at all. He never had to. Kind of like the Toronto Maple Leafs. Unproductive and blah!


Ostie d'tabarnac
Ostie d'tabarnac 
@w8n4it; did some of them vote with their "Leaf cap", in spite of harper?













Patrick T
Patrick T 
Congratulations Alaina, and best wishes as you work into your new role as our member of parliament.












Think It Over
Think It Over 
Rob did very little for the Riding / Province / Canada.

Time for him to go out into the workplace and find a Real Job.















tomkatt
tomkatt
good luck finding a real job rob. now you ll see what your govt policies have done to this country while your out looking. glad to see you gone.


petey324 
petey324 
@tomkatt He doesn't have to work another day ever with so much government pension , probably 6 figures annually and living in low tax St Martins.














dadio13
dadio13 
Rob Moore contributed little to Fundy Royal. Fundy Royal has had a plethora of photo ops, hand shaking and cake cutting but little else.

The people of Fundy Royal have spoken against the bigoted establishment in Ottawa in a big way. They went to the poles to tip the scales in a more realistic display of the numbers.

Weather this is the right government or not is not the issue here. The issue is that the Harper government embarrassed the people of Fundy Royal and they responded. Congrats Fundy Royal. Never thought I would see this day.















irock2012
irock2012 
Alaine: Liberals are in because we wanted trudeau in, your just part of the package. dont stay up on your high horse too long, you ve got alot of impressing to do, in very little time to do it.













ohyeahwhosays
ohyeahwhosays 
Of all the ridings in NB this is undoubtedly THE single most conservative! It will be extraordinarily difficult to hold on the seat in 2019. The very "rural-ness" of the riding makes it difficult for progressives to stand a chance of election. It will only happen when the electorate have had enough of CONservative corruption that they notice and realize the corruption goes against even their conservative grain; then they toss the CONservative bum out. In 4 or 5 years time though, there won't be that corruption (hopefully!) to get them riled up so they'll be back voting "blue"


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Fundy Royal campaign targets middle class with focus on jobs

Fundy Royal voters have elected Conservatives all but 1 time in 28 elections over 101 years


CBC News· Posted: Oct 17, 2015 6:00 AM AT


Four candidats are running in the federal riding of Fundy-Royal. Green candidate Stephanie Coburn, NDP candidate Jennifer McKenzie, Liberal candidate Alaina Lockhart and Conservative candidate Rob Moore. (Courtesy of Stephanie Coburn, Jennifer McKenzie/Facebook, Alaina Lockhart/Facebook, CBC) 

Candidates running in Fundy Royal are appealing to the middle class in the typically Tory-dominant riding, with a focus on jobs and the economy.

The Conservatives have strong roots in the southern New Brunswick riding — this area has given its support to the Conservatives in every election for the past century, save for 1993, when Liberal Paul Zed won office.

In 2011, Conservative incumbent Rob Moore captured nearly 60 per cent of the vote.

Moore said he hopes the party's record, with its focus on the economy and direct benefits to people, will earn him another term in office.
The Tory incumbent pointed to programs, such as the Universal Childcare Benefit, as well as family income splitting and pension income splitting, that has left more money in the pockets of Canadians.
But, he said, he has also delivered on bringing federal cash to his ridinng.

Moore says the biggest question he's heard at the door is how the next government will move the regions's economy forward.

He says the answer lies in TransCanada Corp.'s proposed Energy East pipeline.

"The [Irving Oil] refinery is employing many people in our region, there's a lot of spinoff benefits, and if we can bring that resource from Alberta to New Brunswick to be refined and sold from our port, that is a great economic opportunity," said Moore.



Liberals focus on seniors, middle class


Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau campaigned in Sussex earlier in the campaign. The Liberals are hoping to knock off the Tories for only the second time in a century. (Courtesy Alaina Lockhart/Facebook)

The Liberals are trying hard to knock off the Tories. Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau has already appeared in Sussex, the largest community in the riding.
Liberal candidate Alaina Lockhart said she is trying to appeal her campaign to the middle class.

"That's the majority of Fundy Royal," said Lockhart, who has owned Lockhart's Weddings and Special Occasions Inc. since 2004.

"People working everyday to make ends meet and the fact that we have a national campaign focused on strengthening the middle class to put more money in their pockets to then stimulate the economy, I'm encouraged by that," she said.

Lockhart says her party's focus on seniors through initiatives like affordable housing, strengthening the Canada Pension Plan and guaranteed income supplement would benefit the region.

"They worked hard their whole lives and we need to make sure they have secure retirements," she said.

Hopeful for change

NDP candidate Jennifer McKenzie says she's sensing an eagerness for change in the large riding.



McKenzie, an electrical engineer living in St. Martins, threw her name in after becoming "discouraged and disillusioned by the current government.

"People want our youth back, we want to have reasons to stay here.
- NDP candidate Jennifer McKenzie
The region has lost a lot of its youth because of the Harper government's lack of focus on the economy, she said.

" be part of the economy and have jobs," she asid.

"The current government's focus on the prairie provinces in the oil and gas industry left New Brunswick and the Atlantic provinces neglected, and we actually had a three year recession here."

McKenzie says the NDP's focus on small business would better serve the area's economy.

"Our agricultural industry should be flourishing, we have to make sure we protect the family farm, there's fishing, forestry, I'm proud of our tourism initiatives, so much is a good fit to the NDP," she said.



Lost youth

The proposed Energy East pipeline could add new jobs to the communities inside Fundy Royal, according to Conservative MP Rob Moore. (Dan Riedlhuber/Reuters)
The proposed Energy East pipeline is popular in many parts of the southern New Brunswick riding, but the Green candidate said it is the wrong way to attract investment.
Stephanie Coburn, the Green Party candidate for Fundy Royal, says the promise of 14,000 direct and indirect full-time jobs across Canada is "hugely exaggerated."

"The pipeline is a bad idea for people locally and we heard about the pipeline spills in northern Alberta and Michigan, and that ... oil they hope to bring in through the pipeline is impossible to cleanup," Coburn said.
 
"It's a bad idea nationally because it's all going to be exported … And it's going to contribute so much to the greenhouse gases we're trying to avoid to the globe, and exacerbate global warming terribly."

Coburn says she has heard encouragement for her party at the door, a big turnaround from when she first stepped into the political arena in 2010.

"Now I feel I'm finally not talking into the wind as I have been a long time about environmental issues," said Coburn.

"People are aware of the environmental problems we experience, and we're going to experience if we don't make some changes. That's a positive change from when I first ran."

Fundy Royal contains parts of the counties of Albert, Kings, Queens, Saint John and Westmorland and includes St. Martins, Salisbury, Sussex and Petitcodiac, as well as part of Quispamsis.



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David Amos
It appears that the CROWN Corp known as CBC has failed its MANDATE once again and acted in a very partisan fashion in ignoring my name on the ballot. Correct? The real question is will the CROWN even allow this comment to be posted?


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@David Amos FYI

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/factscan-plans-to-test-political-claims-during-election-1.2951761

Tall tale-telling politicos, take heed: You could soon find your claims put through the truth grinder by the folks at FactsCan, a newly launched website that aims to provide an independent, non-partisan fact-checking service during the upcoming federal election.
■FactsCan website

According to co-founder Dana Wagner, who also works as a researcher at Ryerson University in Toronto, the team behind the site wants to help voters "separate out the truth from spin, distortion, omission, error and lies."

"Our goal is to enable Canadians to critically engage in political-speak, and to encourage politicians to be honest and accurate with their words," she told CBC News via email.

Unlike many countries, she noted, Canada does not have a major fact-checking outlet — and FactsCan is hoping to change that before the next election.


irock2012 
RURAL GUY
@David Amos was going to hold my nose and vote con until I seen your name right at the top of the ballot. I instantly checked yours without even looking any further. I've never seen such a poor choice for prime minister for our three main parties, ever. when harper polls as good as he is, kinda tells you something about the other two, yuk


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@David Amos FACTS

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David Amos 
@RURAL GUY Thank You for the vote of confidence Kind Sir























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 David Amos
Clearly there are FIVE candidates not merely four.

http://www.elections.ca/Scripts/vis/candidates?L=e&ED=13004&EV=41&QID=-1&PAGEID=17

and everybody knows it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE


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CT
@David Amos I'm sorry they ignored you,you have great points but you should really pick a demographic that is smarter.Here people vote for cons without ever using their brains.Sad really when all they represent are Irving ,the potash corp and their minions.They are owned by them and they don't even know it. 























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David Amos
Go figure

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pirate-party-s-james-wilson-aims-to-lead-party-nationally-1.2511054?cmp=rss

CBC writes lots about people who BS a lot then don't bother to put their name on a ballot. Yet I have done so FIVE times and they have never said a peep other than bar me from the airwaves and try to have their pals in the other CROWN Corp known as the RCMP arrest me. Page 14 of this old pdf file of mine is the reason why.

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf 





























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David Amos
I must Say I am rather impressed at CBC's sudden fit of Integrity to allow my posts to stand the test of time for a few hours at least. (: Rest assured that I have been saving digital snapshots just in case they delete and block me as usual :)

In return here is an old scoop about CTV that CBC and everybody else and his dog has been ignoring for 11 very long years after I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament against the aptly named lawyer Rob Moore.

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/08/re-bce-and-jean-pierre-blais-of-crtc.html

----- Original Message -----
From: martine.turcotte@bell.ca
To: motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
Cc: bcecomms@bce.ca ; W-Five@ctv.ca
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: I am curious

Mr. Amos, I confirm that I have received your documentation. There is
no need to send us a hard copy. As you have said yourself, the
documentation is very voluminous and after 3 days, we are still in the
process of printing it. I have asked one of my lawyers to review it
in my absence and report back to me upon my return in the office. We
will then provide you with a reply.

Martine Turcotte
Chief Legal Officer / Chef principal du service juridique
BCE Inc. / Bell Canada
1000 de La Gauchetière ouest, bureau 3700
Montréal (Qc) H3B 4Y7

Tel: (514) 870-4637
Fax: (514) 870-4877
email: martine.turcotte@bell.ca

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Tel: (514) 870-4638
email: diane.valade@bell.ca 























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David Amos
Anybody bother to notice I am the only person posting here with a real name and it is the same name that is on the ballot in Fundy Royal?

Do ya think the lawyer Rob Moore "The True Conservative" or any of the others would dare to debate me in writing with their true name within a website funded by the taxpayer and controlled by questionable public servants? How about outside the CROWN"s domain within the Yankee website called Twitter? That is where I play very serious Political Hard Ball. See for yourself or ask Rob Moore's hero Stevey Boy Harper if I am a liar or not.

https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies 















irock2012
tony forward
I may be a little confused here, Is there not 5 candidates in this Riding.. Humm. Seems you forgot the Independent candidate, David Amos is running, heard him on the radio and has a u tube following, Funny how u tube has become become more accurate than the CBC. Shame on you, CBC. Lets just see if you will post this comment,,, 


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David Amos
@tony forward For the record CBC is well aware that I am the fifth candidate. Hance Colburne of CBC moderated the debate in Hampton on Oct 7th one before CBC posted on their website on Oct 14th his interview with Rob Moore on CBC airwaves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyNx6QEHqRA


























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David Amos
BTW Rob Moore and I know the truth about Randy Quaid's questionable arrests in Canada and the USA. More importantly so does Randy I know that for a fact.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/randy-quaid-release-jail-vermont-1.3274216

"I never worried about being found guilty or any of that for any of these charges because I know the truth, and I know the facts are going to come out at some point, and today was a good sign of that," Randy Quaid said

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/randy-quaid-court-appearance-1.3262238

"Quaid and his wife Evi, a Canadian citizen, have been living in Montreal since February 2013."

"Robert Gervais, an official with the Immigration and Refugee Board, confirmed in an email to CBC News that a detention review hearing for Quaid is scheduled for Thursday afternoon.

But the reason for the actor's arrest is unclear.

Quaid, 64, was detained Tuesday morning after attending a regular check-in with CBSA officials in downtown Montreal.

Quaid's lawyer, Mark Gruszczynski, declined to shed light on the affair or to reveal the reason for Quaid's arrest."





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Health care is another important topic for middle class. Together Natalie and Linda represents more than 700,000 public health care workers and their message to all Canadians is to vote Anything But Conservative party (ABC). Watch their video at https://youtu.be/o8I71SHP3MQ

Both Natalie and Linda have a very clear position. Their message to all Canadians is to vote ABC (Anything But Conservative party).

They both express serious concerns about the Harper/Conservative Party having the WORST record with facilitating the Canadian public health care; The serious negative effects of the secret TPP deal; The high cost of prescription drugs.

Linda Silas is President of the Canadians Federation of Nurses Unions. Which represents more than half a million people in its network.

Natalie Mehra is the Director of the Ontario Health Coalition. Which represents nearly 200,000 nurses in the country.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE


Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local Campaign, Rogers TV

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Federal debate in Fundy Royal, New Brunswick riding featuring candidates Rob Moore, Stephanie Coburn, Alaina Lockhart, Jennifer McKenzie and David Amos. Rob Moore - Conservative Stephanie Coburn - Green Party Alaina Lockhart - Liberal Jennifer McKenzie - New Democratic Party David Amos - Independent Like this program? Be the first to see it on Rogers Cable. Subscribe to Rogers by visiting www.Rogers.com. For more information, visit www.RogersTV.com

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Anthony
David Amos the man, who wouldn't vote for this guy?


David Amos
+C62893480 Thanks

Free Bethlehem
we need people like him real Canadians not these fake fuck owned by banks and corporations politicians

Donovan
That's great how someone started to cough when David Amos mentioned Canadian involvement in Iraq and Jim Traficant. It wasn't conspicuous at all.
 

GroundHogs Movement
Dave Amos I glad to see you are okay and still standing!
 

David Amos
Yep and my lawsuit against the CROWN is still ongoing in Federal Court as well BTW I just teased Harper with your video within my Twitter account just now.Please Enjoyhttps://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
 

Shawn Tabor
Good job Famous,are they ready for the truth,only time will tell.Believe me I love my country and my little province.Just tired of the bull .... .Take care and I know you to never give up.

David Amos
+Shawn Tabor Thanks Mr Tabor
 

Missy Chambers
YOU SHALL NOT PASS ... up the opportunity to vote for Gandalf. #GandalfforPM
 

FarmersAreCool
Our wood, our oil, our potash are all owned by big companies. Local farmers can't afford to buy fertilizer and we have a Potash mine right outside of town.

peoplestandup.ca
I cannot find you on twister here email Beaver@peoplestandup.ca force to move to NB It nice see you still alive get contact with and if don't understand.I myself don't trust anyone. You did great job on video good stuff hope all well with you and family!
David Amos
It is called Twitter. Furthermore this is the YouTube Channel of Rogers TV not mine. Therefore I would have no idea when comments were made here or by whom unless I revisit this video. I did so today in order to make a comment to tease a Yankee lawyer and happen to read the other comments. 
Now you have my response to a five month old comment of yours.Why do you care about communicating with me now Tony? My phone is is still the anyway so why publish your email in here? You never had the balls to say my name when it could have made a difference years ago when Harper was in power and or your former NDP buddies ruled Nova Scotia. At least Robin a lady we both know in Alberta did say my name a lot but she also supporte the wack Kevin Annett and picked him over me to believe. Correct? Both you and Robin told me you were quitting the political games over six years ago when Google killed my original YouTube account after they bought them out. So I left you both out of the fray and went on doing what I promised to my children what I would do. It is my humble opinion that because People Do Not Stand Up we get the governments we deserve. 
Apathy rules the day. Now that Trudeau "The Younger" has held office for over a year and is still popular and the Trumpster is about to assume power, I will follow through with the rest of my plan. I will file more lawsuits and settle for Gold because I am getting old. There is nothing more I can do politically but I must try to recover the Interests my Clan has lost before I am pushing up daisies. On my next birthday my FTW attitude will be back. I will ride away with a clear conscience knowing I did the best I could just like I did 30 years ago. It truly is just that simple Tony.
 

Twon8472
Isnt it just Fundy now?
Canadian Strategist
It used to be called Fundy back it the day, but it's still Fundy-Royal
S P
The PCs created ISIL. They created a war that otherwise would not've happened, and which taxpayers are being forced to fund, even though the majority of Canadians do not want to keep kicking the hornet nest.
 

whynotbig
omg I didn't know Gandalf was running in fundy





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Taking the Pulse on Canadian Health Before the Vote on Monday

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Natalie Mehra, Executive Director of the Ontario Health Coalition, and Linda Silas, President of the Canadians Federation of Nurses Unions, say the Harper cuts to health care lead to one of the most expensive drug plans in the developed world


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David Amos
Perhaps the nurses will finally listen to me after all these years


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Anxious, depressed, suicidal: new study reveals shocking pre-pandemic levels of mental illness among Canada’s nurses

June 16, 2020 (OTTAWA, ON) – A first-of-its-kind study on mental disorders among Canada’s nurses has been released today, revealing widespread and severe symptoms of PTSD, anxiety, depression, burnout and other conditions. The study, Mental Disorder Symptoms Among Nurses in Canada, is based on pan-Canadian data from 7,358 regulated nurses (RNs, LPNs, RPNs, NPs), collected in 2019 by the Canadian Federation of Nurses Unions and researchers Nicholas Carleton, PhD, and Andrea Stelnicki, PhD, of the University of Regina.
“The disturbing rates of mental illness revealed by this study were recorded among thousands of nurses before the pandemic hit – we can only imagine how much more severe they would be now as nurses shoulder the stress of fighting COVID-19,” said Linda Silas, President of the CFNU.
The study found nurses reported symptoms that screen positive for mental disorders at high rates:
  • One in three (36.4%) screened positive for Major Depressive Disorder.
  • More than one in four screened positive for Generalized Anxiety Disorder (26.1%) and clinical burnout (29.3%).
  • Many screened positive for PTSD (23.0%) and Panic Disorder (20.3%).
  • One in three nurses reported having suicidal thoughts (ideation) (33%), 17% reported planning suicide, and 8% reported attempting suicide during their lifetime.
“Experts tell us that these numbers are higher than those for the general population and, in many cases, higher than the rates reported from a parallel survey of public safety personnel such as correctional workers, firefighters and paramedics,” noted Silas.
The top source of extreme stress nurses reported was short staffing with 83.4%, indicating that the regular core health staff is insufficient to meet the needs of patients. Physical assault was the most frequently reported type of traumatic event (92.7%), and nearly half of nurses (46.4%) reported exposure to physical assault 11 or more times.
“Our nurses are facing mental health challenges. The study results suggest cumulative exposures to potentially psychologically traumatic events and other work stressors are problematic for nurses. The results highlight a significant need to direct more attention to the well-being of Canadian nurses, including their mental health,” said Dr. Carleton, Professor of Clinical Psychology and Scientific Director of the Canadian Institute for Public Safety Research and Treatment.
Silas concluded, “The disturbing rates of mental illness in this study must be a call to action, not only to better support our frontline nurses, but to fix the chronic issues that have made health care workplaces unsafe for workers and our patients.”
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For more information, please contact:
Lauren Snowball, lsnowball@nursesunions.ca, 613-868-5702
Ben René, brene@nursesunions.ca, 613-406-5962
A Questions and Answers document has also been available for download. This document provides a plain-language summary of the report’s key findings.

 

Canada’s nurses are saving a seat for the federal government

Niagara-on-the-Lake, July 26, 2013 — As the premiers wrap up their summer Council of the Federation meeting in Niagara, the Canadian Nurses Association (CNA) and the Canadian Federation of Nurses Unions (CFNU) are reminding the federal government that they still have an important role to play in uniting Canada’s health-care system across the regions to ultimately improve the health of Canadians. The premiers were previously together in Niagara in 2004 alongside the federal government to sign the health accord, where both levels agreed on “collaboration between all governments, working together in common purpose to meet the evolving health-care needs of Canadians.” CNA and CFNU note the progress that premiers have made on health-care transformation, but are calling on the federal government to bring consistency and unity across the provinces and territories.
“To guarantee every Canadian the same access to the same quality health care — regardless of who they are or where they live — the federal government must assume a leadership role,” said CNA president Barb Mildon. “Health providers and the premiers have made progress in identifying local innovations that can be scaled up into national solutions, but real progress depends on actually implementing these solutions consistently across our country.  We’re eager to work with the new health minister, Rona Ambrose, to present priority outcomes — such as a reduction in diabetes, availability of electronic health records, 24/7 access to primary care — that require focused collaboration to achieve better system performance and better health.”
The health accord, established in 2004 between the federal and provincial/territorial governments, is set to expire in 2014 and a replacement has not been established. When the Health Council of Canada reported in 2011 that only about half of the targets in the accord were being met, a spokesperson for then-health minister Leona Aglukkaq confirmed there would be a renewal at some point and that the federal government “will work collaboratively with the provinces and territories to renew the health accord.” An unexpected development came later in 2011 when finance minister Jim Flaherty announced health transfers will continue to increase at six per cent a year until 2016-2017, after which they would be based on growth in Canada’s GDP and inflation.
“Demonstrating a commitment to Canadians cannot be done through signing a cheque alone,” said CFNU president Linda Silas. “The federal government signed up for a collaborative relationship with the provinces and territories in 2004. Almost ten years later, there are still major gaps in the health-care system that must be addressed in order to guarantee quality, safe care for all Canadians. We urge the federal government to re-commit to an investment of effort and resources to help us build a better universal, public health system that will lead to better health outcomes for all Canadians.”
To sustain and improve Canada’s publicly funded, not-for-profit health-care system, CNA and CFNU recommend three priorities where the federal government can contribute to health-care transformation:
  • strengthen accountability by establishing health and system improvement goals based on a series of priority quality indicators with targets across the health-care system
  • ensure the capacity to meet the needs of Canadians by stabilizing and securing Canada’s health workforce today and for the long term
  • improve health equity and reduce health disparity by investing in services and programs such as greater access to community-based health services (e.g., primary care, outpatient care and home care) and a universal pharmacare program
CNA is the national professional voice of registered nurses in Canada. A federation of 11 provincial and territorial nursing associations and colleges representing nearly 150,000 registered nurses, CNA advances the practice and profession of nursing to improve health outcomes and strengthen Canada’s publicly funded not-for-profit health system.
CFNU represents close to 200,000 nurses and student nurses. Our members work in hospitals, long-term care facilities, community health care, and our homes. The CFNU speaks to all levels of government, other health care stakeholders and the public about evidence-based policy options to improve patient care, working conditions and our public health care system.
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For more information or interview requests, please contact:
Kate Headley, External Communications Coordinator
Canadian Nurses Association
Telephone: 613-237-2159, ext. 561 | 1-800-361-8404
Cell: 613-697-7507
E-mail: kheadley@cna-aiic.ca
Linda Silas, President
Canadian Federation of Nurses Unions
Telephone: 613-526-4661 | 1-800-321-9821
Cell: 613-859-4314
E-mail: lsilas@nursesunions.ca
- See more at: https://www.cna-aiic.ca/en/news-room/news-releases/2013/canadas-nurses-are-saving-a-seat-for-the-federal-government#sthash.rfyaIOC0.dpuf

Canada’s nurses are saving a seat for the federal government

Niagara-on-the-Lake, July 26, 2013 — As the premiers wrap up their summer Council of the Federation meeting in Niagara, the Canadian Nurses Association (CNA) and the Canadian Federation of Nurses Unions (CFNU) are reminding the federal government that they still have an important role to play in uniting Canada’s health-care system across the regions to ultimately improve the health of Canadians. The premiers were previously together in Niagara in 2004 alongside the federal government to sign the health accord, where both levels agreed on “collaboration between all governments, working together in common purpose to meet the evolving health-care needs of Canadians.” CNA and CFNU note the progress that premiers have made on health-care transformation, but are calling on the federal government to bring consistency and unity across the provinces and territories.
“To guarantee every Canadian the same access to the same quality health care — regardless of who they are or where they live — the federal government must assume a leadership role,” said CNA president Barb Mildon. “Health providers and the premiers have made progress in identifying local innovations that can be scaled up into national solutions, but real progress depends on actually implementing these solutions consistently across our country.  We’re eager to work with the new health minister, Rona Ambrose, to present priority outcomes — such as a reduction in diabetes, availability of electronic health records, 24/7 access to primary care — that require focused collaboration to achieve better system performance and better health.”
The health accord, established in 2004 between the federal and provincial/territorial governments, is set to expire in 2014 and a replacement has not been established. When the Health Council of Canada reported in 2011 that only about half of the targets in the accord were being met, a spokesperson for then-health minister Leona Aglukkaq confirmed there would be a renewal at some point and that the federal government “will work collaboratively with the provinces and territories to renew the health accord.” An unexpected development came later in 2011 when finance minister Jim Flaherty announced health transfers will continue to increase at six per cent a year until 2016-2017, after which they would be based on growth in Canada’s GDP and inflation.
“Demonstrating a commitment to Canadians cannot be done through signing a cheque alone,” said CFNU president Linda Silas. “The federal government signed up for a collaborative relationship with the provinces and territories in 2004. Almost ten years later, there are still major gaps in the health-care system that must be addressed in order to guarantee quality, safe care for all Canadians. We urge the federal government to re-commit to an investment of effort and resources to help us build a better universal, public health system that will lead to better health outcomes for all Canadians.”
To sustain and improve Canada’s publicly funded, not-for-profit health-care system, CNA and CFNU recommend three priorities where the federal government can contribute to health-care transformation:
  • strengthen accountability by establishing health and system improvement goals based on a series of priority quality indicators with targets across the health-care system
  • ensure the capacity to meet the needs of Canadians by stabilizing and securing Canada’s health workforce today and for the long term
  • improve health equity and reduce health disparity by investing in services and programs such as greater access to community-based health services (e.g., primary care, outpatient care and home care) and a universal pharmacare program
CNA is the national professional voice of registered nurses in Canada. A federation of 11 provincial and territorial nursing associations and colleges representing nearly 150,000 registered nurses, CNA advances the practice and profession of nursing to improve health outcomes and strengthen Canada’s publicly funded not-for-profit health system.
CFNU represents close to 200,000 nurses and student nurses. Our members work in hospitals, long-term care facilities, community health care, and our homes. The CFNU speaks to all levels of government, other health care stakeholders and the public about evidence-based policy options to improve patient care, working conditions and our public health care system.
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For more information or interview requests, please contact:
Kate Headley, External Communications Coordinator
Canadian Nurses Association
Telephone: 613-237-2159, ext. 561 | 1-800-361-8404
Cell: 613-697-7507
E-mail: kheadley@cna-aiic.ca
Linda Silas, President
Canadian Federation of Nurses Unions
Telephone: 613-526-4661 | 1-800-321-9821
Cell: 613-859-4314
E-mail: lsilas@nursesunions.ca
- See more at: https://www.cna-aiic.ca/en/news-room/news-releases/2013/canadas-nurses-are-saving-a-seat-for-the-federal-government#sthash.rfyaIOC0.dpuf


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Board of Directors

Chairs

Ross Sutherland R.N., MA

Secretary

Shirley Roebuck
Chair, Chatham-Kent, Sarnia, Wallaceburg and Walpole Island First Nations Health Coalitions

Treasurer

Sara Labelle
OPSEU

Executive Director

Natalie Mehra
Ontario Health Coalition

Board Members

Doug Allan
Health Care Researcher, CUPE
Hugh Armstrong
Professor Emeritus, Carleton University
Charlene Avon
Member, Peterborough Health Coalition
Mark Calzavara
Regional Organizer, Ontario-Quebec-Nunavut, Council of Canadians
Patty Coates
President, Ontario Federation of Labour
Tim Deelstra
Member, UFCW Local 175
Meg Gingrich
Researcher, United Steelworkers
Dr. Amit Arya
Palliative Care Physician
Dr. Gordon Guyatt
Member, Canadian Doctors for Medicare
Dr. Ted Haines
Member, Hamilton Health Coalition
Maureen O’Halloran
Staff Representative COPE Ontario
Sue Hotte
Chair, Niagara Health Coalition
Mehdi Kouhestaninejad
Ontario Region Representative, Canadian Labour Congress
Tracey Germa
Communications/Political Action Staff Member, OSSTF
Andy Savela
Health Care Director, Unifor
Jules Tupker
Chair, Thunder Bay Health Coalition
Lawrence Walter
Government Relations Officer, ONA
Anna Zachariah
Member, Ontario Society of Citizens’ Organizations (OCSCO)

Staff

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Executive Director
Megan Lee
Campaign & Project Coordinator
Salah Shadir
Administration & Operations Manager

Riley Sanders
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Canada needs universal, public pharmacare now more than ever

May 22, 2020


Ottawa, Ontario: Today, over 185 organizations from across Canada released a joint statement calling on the federal government to immediately implement universal, public pharmacare as part of its response to the Covid-19 pandemic. The statement is supported by a diverse coalition representing health care providers, non-profit organizations, unions, workers, seniors, patients, and the business community from coast to coast to coast.

“The need for universal, public pharmacare has never been more urgent,” said Melanie Benard, the National Director of Policy and Advocacy at the Canadian Health Coalition. “Millions of Canadians have lost their jobs and their work-based drug plans during this pandemic. That means millions more people are now struggling to afford their medication. The government must take action now.”

Before the Covid-19 crisis, nearly one in four households were struggling to afford their medications. One million Canadians were having to choose between putting food on the table and buying the medication they needed. These numbers have increased exponentially due to the mass layoffs triggered by the pandemic.

“So many Canadians are now struggling to make ends meet,” said Benard. “If they skip their medication because they can’t afford it, they may end up getting sicker and needing to go to the hospital. Our health care system can’t afford that additional strain during the pandemic. We need to keep people as healthy as possible, and to do that we need universal, public pharmacare.”
In a new poll conducted by Abacus Data for the Broadbent Institute, 72% of Canadians said that universal, public pharmacare is a very important part of the government’s response to the COVID crisis.

Canada is the only country in the world with a universal health care system that doesn’t cover prescription medication. Last summer, the Advisory Council on the Implementation of National Pharmacare led by Dr. Eric Hoskins recommended that Canada adopt a universal, public pharmcare program.

Given the current crisis, the new joint statement is calling on the government to speed up the implementation of the Council’s recommendations. Benard explained: “We can’t afford to wait any longer for pharmacare. Canadians need this program now to help them get through the COVID crisis. We’re counting on the government to make it happen.”
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For more information:
Melanie Benard
National Director, Policy and Advocacy
Canadian Health Coalition
policy@healthcoalition.ca
(343) 777-6238




Provincial and Territorial Health Coalitions

While the Canadian Health Coalition works at the national level, our affiliates are the defenders of public health care in the provinces and one territory. We would like to invite you to stay informed on what is happening in your community by signing up to stay up to date on their work.

Alberta
Friends of Medicare
www.friendsofmedicare.org
(780)423-4581│fominfo@telus.net
Twitter: @FriendsMedicare
Facebook: FriendsofMedicare
Instagram: FriendsofMedicare

Manitoba
Manitoba Health Coalition
www.mbhealthcoalition.ca
431-337-2527│manitobahealthcoalition@gmail.com
Twitter: @MBHealth2018
Facebook: MBHealthCoalition
Instagram: MBHealthCoalition

Nova Scotia
Nova Scotia Health Coalition
www.nshealthcoalition.ca
(902) 406-9422 │coordinator@nshealthcoalition.ca
Twitter: @_NSHC
Facebook: NSHealthCoalition

P.E.I.
P.E.I. Health Coalition
(902) 892-9074 │maryboyd@live.ca
 
Saskatchewan
Saskatchewan Health Coalition
Information coming soon
British Columbia
B.C. Health Coalition
www.bchealthcoalition.ca
(604) 681-7945│campaigner@bchealthcoalition.ca
Twitter: @BCHC
Facebook: BCHealthCoalition
Instagram: BCHealthCoalition

Newfoundland & Labrador
Health Coalition of Newfoundland & Labrador
(709) 687-1960 │ maryc_hcnl@hotmail.com
Twitter: @HealthCoNL

Northwest Territories
Alternatives North
www.alternativesnorth.ca
(867) 873-5422 │ info@alternativesnorth.ca
Twitter: @AltNorth1
Facebook: AlternativesNorth

Ontario
Ontario Health Coalition
www.ontariohealthcoalition.ca
(416) 441-2502 │ohc@sympatico.ca
Twitter: @OntarioHealthC
Facebook: OntarioHealth
Instagram: OntarioHealthCoalition

Quebec
Coalition solidarité santé
www.cssante.com
514-442-0577│cssante@gmail.com
Twitter: @cssante
Facebook: CoalitionSolidariteSante
























 


















https://www.canadiandoctorsformedicare.ca/about


Canadian Doctors for Medicare

Welcome to the new CDM website! We are a nationwide, evidence-based nonpartisan member organization dedicated to strengthening and preserving Canada's publicly-funded health care system.

Our Vision
A high-quality, equitable, sustainable health system built on the best available evidence is the highest expression of Canadians caring for one another.

Our Mission
To provide a voice for Canadian doctors who want to strengthen and improve Canada's universal publicly-funded health care system. We advocate for innovations in treatment and prevention services that are evidence-based and improve access, quality, equity and sustainability.

Our Goals
  • To continuously improve publicly-funded health care in Canada
  • To assist in the education of doctors, policy makers, other health practitioners and the general public on the value, efficiency, quality and equity of publicly-funded health care and the reality of alternative systems
  • To effectively collaborate with other organizations that share similar objectives
Our Board of Directors
CDM's Board of Directors is composed of a diverse range of physicians, residents and students from across Canada. Review our board list to learn more and meet our board members.

Our Staff
CDM's operations are supported by the staff at our national office in Toronto. Review our staff list for details and contact information.

Board Documentation
Download the minutes of our 2019 Annual General Meeting, as well as our financial statements for 2018, available in PDF format.

Contact Us
Canadian Doctors for Medicare
@ CSI Annex
304-720 Bathurst Street
Toronto, Ontario M5S 2R4
info@canadiandoctorsformedicare.ca

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Katie Arnup
Executive Director
katie@canadiandoctorsformedicare.ca


https://rnao.ca/fr/news/media-releases/2014/10/27/coalition-health-organizations-urges-ban-medical-tourism

Coalition of health organizations urges ban on medical tourism

2014-10-27
TORONTO, Oct. 27, 2014 – A coalition of provincial health organizations will hold a media conference on Wednesday to speak out against medical tourism.

Representatives from the Registered Nurses' Association of Ontario, Canadian Doctors for Medicare, the Association of Ontario Midwives, and the Association of Ontario Health Centres say the government needs to demonstrate leadership to prevent medical tourism from delaying Ontarians' access to health care.

Medical tourism refers to a practice where hospitals create for-profit programs to attract patients from across international borders to receive health care on a pay-for-treatment basis.

The health groups say that hospitals should not be allowed to create two-tier, for-profit programs, and want the government to ban the practice.

WHO:
  • Representatives of the Registered Nurses’ Association of Ontario, Canadian Doctors for Medicare, the Association of Ontario Midwives and the Association of Ontario Health Centres
WHAT:
  • Urging a ban on medical tourism
WHERE:
  • Queen’s Park media studio, Legislative Building, Room 149, Queen's Park, Toronto, Ont.
WHEN:
  • Wednesday, Oct. 29 at 9:45 a.m.
The Registered Nurses' Association of Ontario (RNAO) is the professional association representing registered nurses, nurse practitioners, and nursing students in Ontario. Since 1925, RNAO has advocated for healthy public policy, promoted excellence in nursing practice, increased nurses’ contribution to shaping the health-care system, and influenced decisions that affect nurses and the public they serve. For more information about RNAO, visit our website at www.RNAO.ca or follow us on Facebook and Twitter.

Canadian Doctors for Medicare is a physician-led organization committed to evidence-based advocacy and innovation that will protect and improve Canada's single-payer universal health care system. For more information about CDM, visit www.canadiandoctorsformedicare.ca

The Association of Ontario Midwives is the professional organization representing midwives and the profession of midwifery in Ontario. For more information about Ontario Midwives, visit www.OntarioMidwives.ca and follow us on Facebook and Twitter.

The Association of Ontario Health Centres (AOHC) is Ontario’s voice for community-governed primary health care. The association represents 111 community-governed primary health-care organizations. Membership includes Ontario’s Community Health Centres, Aboriginal Health Access Centres, Community Family Health Teams and Nurse Practitioner-Led Clinics. For more information, visit us on www.aohc.org and follow up at Facebook and Twitter.

For more information, or to arrange an interview, please contact:

Marion Zych,
Director of Communications, RNAO
Office: 416-408-5605
Cellular: 647-406-5605
mzych@RNAO.ca

Katie Raso
Communication and Outreach Officer, CDM
647-705-2192
Katie@canadiandoctorsformedicare.ca

Juana Berinstein
Director of Policy and Communications, AOM
Office: 416-425-9974 extension: 2229
Juana.berinstein@aom.on.ca

Adrianna Tetley
Chief Executive Officer, AOHC
Office: 416-689-9352
adrianna@aohc.org




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Subject: Automatic reply: Oh My Deja Vu or what? It appears the Cabinet
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attentivement, un par un. Sachez, cependant, qu’en raison du volume
important de correspondance que je reçois et parce qu’il se peut que
j’aie à consulter l’un de mes collègues du Conseil des ministres ou un
fonctionnaire compétent en la matière, il pourrait s’écouler plusieurs
jours avant que je puisse donner suite à votre courriel.

Meilleures salutations,

Kathleen Wynne
Première ministre de l’Ontario

Veuillez ne pas répondre directement à ce courriel, car aucun courriel
ne peut être reçu à cette adresse.

* * *

Pour de plus amples renseignements, veuillez faire parvenir votre
message en ligne à l'adresse
https://correspondence.premier.gov.on.ca/fr/feedback/default.aspx.

Avis sur la confidentialité : Ce courriel contient des renseignements
qui s’adressent uniquement à la personne nommée ci-dessus. Si vous
avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, nous vous saurions gré de nous en
informer en utilisant le site Web de la première ministre à l’adresse
suivante https://correspondence.premier.gov.on.ca/fr/feedback/default.aspx
et de détruire toutes les copies de ce message. Nous vous remercions.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bernard.Valcourt.A1@parl.gc.ca
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 17:43:02 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Yo Milton Chan Please enjoy our little debate in 
Fundy Royal of Harper's many minions the aptly named lawyer Rob Moore
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com


Notez que je suis ? l'ext?rieur du bureau du 11 ao?t au 20 octobre
sans acc?s ? mes courriels. Veuillez communiquer avec mes coll?gues
Lynn Trecartin ou Genevi?ve Diotte aux adresses suivantes:
bernard.valcourt.c1@parl.gc.ca ou bernard.valcourt.a2@parl.gc.ca
Merci.

****
Please note that I will be away from the office starting August 11th
until October 20th with no access to my emails. Please contact my
colleagues  Lynn Trecartin or Genevi?ve Diotte by email at
bernard.valcourt.c1@parl.gc.ca or bernard.valcourt.a2@parl.gc.ca
Thank you.

Benoit Violette


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 13:42:55 -0400
Subject: Yo Milton Chan Please enjoy our little debate in Fundy Royal
of Harper's many minions the aptly named lawyer Rob Moore
To: milton@justicequest.com, david.zimmer@ontario.ca, premier
< premier@gnb.ca>, premier <premier@ontario.ca>, premier
< premier@gov.bc.ca>, "Bernard.Valcourt.a1"
< Bernard.Valcourt.a1@parl.gc.ca>, gopublic <gopublic@cbc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, milton.chan@ontario.ca,
"Paul.Collister"<Paul.Collister@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, sunrayzulu
< sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, radical <radical@radicalpress.com>

http://youtu.be/-cFOKT6TlSE

Need I say Hoka Hey and explain to your bosses that I know why you
won't allow my posts on your Fake Left Website called

"http://www.electionprediction.org" ?

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/03/fwd-yo-bobby-boy-paulson-whereas-many.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlQlBq5RtdA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ua8jz-GFt0

http://davidraymondamos.blogspot.ca/

Sunday, 21 December 2014
Fwd: Re Murdered and missing women Please view the pdf file hereto
attached to view a copy of Lonnie Landrud's Nov 16th, 2014 letter


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 01:29:03 -0700
Subject: Fwd: Re Murdered and missing women Please view the pdf file 
hereto attached to view a copy of Lonnie Landrud's Nov 16th, 2014 letter
To: dale.drummond@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "Marianne.Ryan"
< Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Jonathan.Denis"
< Jonathan.Denis@gov.ab.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

https://www.scribd.com/doc/249092479/Landrud-Letter-Nov-16-2014

ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS MINISTER'S OFFICE  [Offices Directory]

Zimmer, Hon. David
Phone: 416-327-4464   Fax: 416-314-2701
Email: david.zimmer@ontario.ca
URL: www.aboriginalaffairs.gov.on.ca
Address:
Hon. David Zimmer
Minister - MINISTER'S OFFICE
Suite 400
160 Bloor St E
Toronto ON M7A2E6

            General Inquiry: 416-325-5110
            Fax: 416-314-2701
            Web Site: www.aboriginalaffairs.gov.on.ca
            Address:
            Suite 400
            160 Bloor St E
            Toronto ON M7A2E6


    [Zimmer, Hon. David] [ Minister ] [416-327-4464]
    [Chan, Milton] [ Chief of Staff ] [416-314-6292]
    [Welch, Sarah B] [ Senior Policy Advisor ] [416-314-2529]
    [Israelson, Jacob] [ Policy Advisor ] [416-314-6232]
    [Cavan, Scott] [ Senior Communications Advisor ] [416-314-6212]
    [Hussain, Alia] [ Legislative Assistant / Issues Manager ] [416-314-6750
]
    [Bok, Jesse] [ Scheduler/Office Manager/MPP Liaison ] [416-314-2560]
    [McKenna, John] [ Advisor, Communications and Policy ] [416-314-2536]
    [Ismail, Tasha] [ Policy Advisor ] [416-314-2523]

http://www.justicequest.com/

http://justicequest.com.cutestat.com/

https://ca.linkedin.com/pub/milton-chan/18/713/7b9

Milton Chan

Chief of Staff, Office of the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs,
Government of Ontario

    Toronto, Canada Area
    Law Practice

Current
 Government of Ontario, Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario), City of Toronto

Previous
Government of Ontario, Investment Industry Regulatory Organization of
Canada, Kathleen Wynne Leadership Campaign 2013

Education       York University

Experience
Chief of Staff, Office of the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs
Government of Ontario
February 2014 – Present (1 year 9 months)
Chair, Constitution & Legal Affairs
Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario)
May 2012 – Present (3 years 6 months)
Chair - Scarborough Panel, Property Standards Committee
City of Toronto
January 2012 – Present (3 years 10 months)Toronto, Canada Area
Director of Strategy and Operations, Office of the Premier
Government of Ontario
March 2013 – February 2014 (1 year)Toronto, Canada Area
Enforcement Counsel
Investment Industry Regulatory Organization of Canada
July 2007 – March 2013 (5 years 9 months)

(As student-at-law, July 2007 to June 2008)
Deputy Campaign Manager, Organization and Legal
Kathleen Wynne Leadership Campaign 2013
October 2012 – January 2013 (4 months)
Counsel and National Agent
Michael Ignatieff Leadership Campaign
November 2008 – April 2009 (6 months)
Special Assistant
Parliament of Canada
2003 – 2007 (4 years)
Co-Director of Organization
Michael Ignatieff Leadership Campaign
January 2006 – December 2006 (1 year)

Oversee the following elements of the campaign:
- Provincial Campaign of British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Manitoba
- National Youth Campaign
- Delegate Selection Meetings Operation (Training and Legal)
- Convention Delegate Tracking
- Rules and Appeal Management

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/eppp-archive/100/205/300/liberal-ef/06-01-06/www.ylc-jlc.ca/bio_e.aspx@id=15308

Milton Chan

Vice-President Policy
milton@justicequest.com

Contrary to popular beliefs, I am NOT the quintessential policy wonk.

I wasn’t quite old enough when I first got involved in the '93
election in Vancouver, and being active in the party has been a fairly
major part of my life since.  I managed campaigns, worked for
ministers, was president of campus clubs, and played many other odd
and end roles.  I also found the http://www.electionprediction.org,
which I trust some of you find highly addictive.

I am quite involved with progressive causes, and many considered me a
“poster-child hell-raiser† both inside and outside the party.  I
was referred to as “left-wing Young Liberals ring leader† by
newspapers, and CBC once made
http://www.cbc.ca/national/news/challengechurch/†>a, small
documentary about my involvement with Challenge the Church when the
Pope was in Toronto.

CBC National once noted, "Milton Chan's stomping ground is Toronto's
gay village", and that was more than just assessment on my partying
routine.  I take a particular interest in topics related to sexuality,
gender, and systemic oppression, and I have been volunteering for
queer organizations since I came out at the age of 17.

Outside of politics, I take part in various social justice
initiatives, volunteer at my local Community Centre, and do shifts at
not-for-profit legal clinics.  I performed for various chorus and
amateur musical companies, and if you think choreography comes
naturally to all gays, note “amateur†.

I live in downtown Toronto, but I’ve never been up the CN Tower.  I
study law at Osgoode Hall, but spend more time art gallery than the
law library.  My mom thinks I go out too much as she never gets me
when she calls at 11pm.  I've already suggested email.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 17:51:03 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Yo Mr Baconfat Please enjoy our little debate in Fundy Royal
with one of your hero Harper's many minions the aptly named lawyer Rob Moore
To: submission@electionprediction.org
Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

http://www.electionprediction.org/2015_fed/riding/13004.php

The following email message was sent.

------------------------------

From: David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com
To: submission@electionprediction.org
Subject: FED 2015 - 13004-Fundy Royal

SUB-Date 15 10 04
=+= 99.252.98.207
=+= David Raymond Amos
=+= 13004-Fundy Royal
=+= no_OPINION
=+= Full Name
=+= David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com
=+= Obviously I am the candidate you people are over looking again EH?

No matter what the strange spin doctor Craig Hubley submits, much to
my chagrin I am predicting that the aptly named lawyer Rob Moore will
win again because most folks voter for the colour of the coat and the
old folks in the riding are long lived and the young folks don't
bother to vote at all.

However nobody can claim that I have been trying hard to get the folks
to pay attention for 11 years Correct?

Please enjoy
http://youtu.be/-cFOKT6TlSE
https://www.scribd.com/doc/281544801/Federal-Court-Seal
https://www.scribd.com/doc/281442628/Me-Versus-the-Crown

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos


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to return to the submission page. *

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Election Prediction Project
Projet D'Élection Prévision
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Nouveau-Brunswick
Federal Election - 2015 - élection générale

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How would you like your name be displayed?
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Electoral Division/Circonscription:
13-Electoral Division/Circonscription 13001-Acadie-Bathurst 13002-Beauséjour
13003-Fredericton 13004-Fundy Royal 13005-Madawaska-Restigouche
13006-Miramichi-Grand
Lake 13007-Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe 13008-New Brunswick Southwest
13009-Saint
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 5:26 PM
Subject: Fwd: Yo Mr Baconfat Please enjoy our little debate in Fundy Royal
with one of your hero Harper's many minions the aptly named lawyer Rob Moore
To: Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, "Loiseau, Frederic"<
frederic.loiseau@fredericton.ca>, Peter Juk <Peter.Juk@gov.bc.ca>, radical <
radical@radicalpress.com>, paul <paul@paulfromm.com>, "Paul.Collister"<
Paul.Collister@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "roger.l.brown"<
roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "serge.rousselle"<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
"angela.leatherland"<angela.leatherland@edmonton.ca>, "Paul.Lynch"<
Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, premier <
premier@gnb.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "peter.mackay"<
peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca>, "marylou.babineau"<
marylou.babineau@greenparty.ca>, maryann4peace <maryann4peace@gmail.com>,
oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, sallybrooks25 <
sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>, patrick_doran1 <patrick_doran1@hotmail.com>, lois <
lois@loisjoysheplawy.com>, "rod.knecht"<rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>,
"don.iveson"<don.iveson@edmonton.ca>, "don.marshall"<
don.marshall@edmonton.ca>, "geoff.crowe"<geoff.crowe@edmontonpolice.ca>,
"Marianne.Ryan"<Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Charmaine.Bulger"<
Charmaine.Bulger@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Whistleblower <Whistleblower@ctv.ca>,
whistleblower <whistleblower@finra.org>, whistle <whistle@fsa.gov.uk>, oig <
oig@sec.gov>
Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

http://youtu.be/-cFOKT6TlSE

I REPEAT TRUST THAT Dean Roger Ray’s Mother Lois Sheplawy

https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/2015/10/04/dean-roger-rays-mother-lois-sheplawy/

AND NOBODY ELSE ENJOYS YOUR MINDLESS EVIL OPINIONS ON ANYTHING

https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/

https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/2015/10/03/harper-is-gonna-win-muslims-kicked-out-and-no-one-listens-to-a-bimbo/


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 14:25:06 -0400
Subject: Well at least the Conservative turncoats Big Bad Billy Casey
and Scotty Baby Brison can never say that they didn't know N'esy Pas
Mr Mulcair and Stevey Boy Harper?
To: darrell.cole@tc.tc, kennethjackson@engaged-democracy.com,
wendy.robinson@ndp.ca, jason.blanch@greenparty.ca, info@billcasey.ca,
info@c4st.org, "scott.armstrong.c1"<scott.armstrong.c1@parl.gc.ca>,
jennifer@jennifermckenzie.ca, no4promotions@eastlink.ca,
edd@eddtwohig.ca, enfield@davidmorse.ca, hugh.curry@ndp.ca,
will.cooper@greenparty.ca, comm@eatgoogle.com, Office@brison.ca,
Karine Fortin <info@ndp.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "peter.mackay"
<peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "The Campaign Office of Bill Casey, Cumberland-Colchester
Liberal Candidate"<info@billcasey.ca>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 13:28:07 -0400
Subject: Thank you for your email re "Fwd: Here is my latest complaint
about the SEC, Banksters and Taxmen"
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you very much for taking the time to email the campaign office
for Bill Casey, the Liberal candidate for Cumberland-Colchester.

With the election campaign well under way, our office has gotten very
busy.  Your input is, as always, very important to us.  If your email
contains a question, we will make sure that you get a response as soon
as we can, and we thank you for your patience with our process.

If you have any questions about Bill's campaign or would like to
contribute to the campaign by volunteering, ordering a lawn sign, or
making a donation, please see Bill's campaign website at
(billcasey.liberal.ca).

Once again, thank you for your time, and we wish you a wonderful day.

Sincerely,

The Cumberland-Colchester Liberal Team
_____________________________________________________________________________________

Merci d'avoir communiqué avec le bureau de campagne électorale de Bill
Casey, candidat du Parti libéral pour la circonscription de
Cumberland-Colchester.

Puisque la campagne électorale est bien entamée, notre bureau est en
plein activité. Votre apport nous tient toujours à coeur. Si votre
message nous posait une question, nous ferions de notre mieux à vous
répondre aussitôt que possible, et nous vous remercions pour votre
patience.

Si vous avez des questions par rapport à la campagne électorale de
Bill, ou si vous désirez appuyer la campagne comme bénévole, monter un
placard ou offrir votre soutien financière, veuillez visiter notre
site web, (billcasey.liberal.ca).

Nous vous remercions encore pour votre intérêt et vous souhaitons une
bonne journée.

Cordialement,

L'équipe du Parti libéral Cumberland-Colchester


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <evan@brison.ca>
Date: Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:39 AM
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC,
Banksters and Taxmen
To: scott.brison.c1@parl.gc.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 08:28:42 -0400
Subject: RE the NB by election in Carleton Here is my latest complaint
about the SEC, Banksters and Taxmen
To: gwinton <gwinton@opencanada.org>, ntnb1@bellaliant.net,
catherine.doucet@gmail.com, mary.ann.coleman@greenpartynb.ca,
dwsabine@nb.sympatico.ca, wayne.dryer@greenpartynb.ca,
kins@nbnet.nb.ca, andrew.clark@greenpartynb.ca,
wesgullison@peoplesalliancenb.com, Randall@peoplesalliance.ca,
kedgwickriver <kedgwickriver@gmail.com>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
http://www1.gnb.ca/elections/en/prov15oct05/provcandidatelist-e.asp?ELECTIONID=58

http://www.greenpartynb.ca/en/party/provincial-council

http://greenpartynb.ca/en/carleton-by-election

To contact Andrew email andrew.clark@greenpartynb.ca or call (506) 323-1698

http://www.peoplesalliance.ca/#!Peoples-Alliance-Announces-Carleton-Byelection-Candidate/c17jj/55f19ea00cf23d0ff00061c3

https://www.facebook.com/WilkinsFredNorth

 Randall Leavitt 506 800 1292

Media Contact:

Wes Gullison
Communications
506-999-0200

wesgullison@peoplesalliancenb.com

http://www.nbndp.ca/new-brunswick-ndp-nominates-greg-crouse-as-candidate-for-carleton-by-election/


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 16:34:07 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and Taxmen
To: jmwilson@mta.ca, alaina@alainalockhart.ca, stephanie.coburn@greenparty.ca
Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

http://james4fundyroyal.weebly.com/

https://alainalockhart.liberal.ca/


http://www.greenparty.ca/en/content/federal-council-new-brunswick-stephanie-coburn


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:16 PM
Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and Taxmen
To: Saint Croix Courier <editor@stcroixcourier.ca>, Duncan Matheson <
duncan@bissettmatheson.com>, infoacadie@radio-canada.ca
Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


*https://player.fm/series/shift-nb/nursing-home-policy-change-and-federal-election
< https://player.fm/series/shift-nb/nursing-home-policy-change-and-federal-election>*

Michelle LeBlanc, Vern Faulkner and Duncan Matheson look at the big
political stories of the week. - See more at:
https://player.fm/series/shift-nb/nursing-home-policy-change-and-federal-election#sthash.RYRFiC5P.dpuf

https://twitter.com/mleblanc_RC
Keep up with Duncan

506-457-1627


*Editor:* Vern Faulkner
Phone: (506) 466-3220 ext. 1307; CELL (506) 467-5203
Email: editor@stcroixcourier.ca


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 10:18:04 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and Taxmen
To: nicolas@allvotes.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,  brendan@brendanmiles.ca
Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Tim.Moen@libertarian.ca,
info@democraticadvancementparty.ca

ENJOY

https://www.scribd.com/doc/281544801/Federal-Court-Seal

https://www.scribd.com/doc/281442628/Me-Versus-the-Crown




---------- Original message ----------
From: Ministre de la Justice Ministre de la Justice <ministre@justice.gouv.qc.ca>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 06:18:30 -0400
Subject: Rép. : Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and Taxmen (Accusé de réception)
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Bonjour,


Nous accusons réception de votre courriel et vous remercions d'avoir communiqué avec la ministre de la Justice. 

Nous vous assurons que votre demande sera traitée avec toute l'attention qu'elle mérite.



---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 06:11:44 -0400
Subject: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and
Taxmen I made certain that the RCMP, the EPS, Glen Canning, Kris
Wells, Barry Winters, and Chucky Leblanc were not forgotten
To: "Jeff.McBeth@rcmp-grc.gc.ca sunrayzulu"<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>,
patrick_doran1 <patrick_doran1@hotmail.com>, austin
< austin@blacktoppaving.ca>, eachtem <eachtem@hotmail.com>,
"Marianne.Ryan"<Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "rod.knecht"
< rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>, maryann4peace
< maryann4peace@gmail.com>, "Ric.McIver"<Ric.McIver@assembly.ab.ca>,
"brian.hodgson"<brian.hodgson@assembly.ab.ca>, "brian.jean"
< brian.jean@assembly.ab.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, mikeduffy
< mikeduffy@sen.parl.gc.ca>, "mike.wilson"
< mike.wilson@fredericton.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre
< andre@jafaust.com>, sallybrooks25 <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>,
"David.Coon"<David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Michelle.Boutin"
< Michelle.Boutin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Kris Wells <kwells@ualberta.ca>,
"kris.wells"<kris.wells@ualberta.ca>, Glen Canning
< grcanning@gmail.com>, lois@loisjoysheplawy.com, deanr0032
< deanr0032@hotmail.com>, bluelightning 03
< bluelightning_03@hotmail.com>, smcintyre <smcintyre@sylvanlake.ca>,
"Gary.Rhodes"<Gary.Rhodes@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Peter.Edge"
< Peter.Edge@dhs.gov>, "peter.dauphinee"<peter.dauphinee@gmail.com>,
"Peter.Edge"<Peter.Edge@ice.dhs.gov>, washington field
< washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>,
PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>,
"Stephen.Horsman"<Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>, "stephen.toope"
< stephen.toope@utoronto.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Leanne.Fitch"
< Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>, "leanne.murray"
< leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, Todd Learning
< Todd.Learning@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, radical <radical@radicalpress.com>,
"Paul.Lynch"<Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>, paul <paul@paulfromm.com>

ENJOY

https://www.scribd.com/doc/281544801/Federal-Court-Seal

https://www.scribd.com/doc/281442628/Me-Versus-the-Crown

P.S.
Perhaps Chucky Leblanc's wannabe lawyers should check out the Criminal Code?


Canadian Criminal Code: Defense of Person Self-Defence Against
Unprovoked Assault ... /

Extent of justification.

34. (1) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted without having provoked
the assault is justified in repelling force by force if the force he
uses is not intended to cause death or grievous bodily harm and is no
more than is necessary to enable him to defend himself.

(2) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted and who causes death or
grievous bodily harm in repelling the assault is justified if

(a) he causes it under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous
bodily harm from the violence with which the assault was originally
made or with which the assailant pursues his purposes; and

(b) he believes, on reasonable grounds, that he cannot otherwise
preserve himself from death or grievous bodily harm.

[R.S. c.C-34, s.34.] Self-Defence In Case Of Aggression.

35. Every one who has without justification assaulted another but did
not commence the assault with intent to cause death or grievous bodily
harm, or has without justification provoked an assault on himself by
another, may justify the use of force subsequent to the assault if

(a) he uses the force

(i) under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm
from the violence of the person whom he has assaulted or provoked, and

(ii) in the belief, on reasonable grounds, that it is necessary in
order to preserve himself from death or grievous bodily harm;

(b) he did not, at any time before the necessity of preserving himself
from death or grievous bodily harm arose, endeavour to cause death or
grievous bodily harm; and

(c) he declined further conflict and quitted or retreated from it as
far as it was feasible to do so before the necessity of preserving
himself from death or grievous bodily harm arose.

[R.S. c.C-34, s.35.] Provocation.

36. Provocation includes, for the purposes of sections 34 and 35,
provocation by blows, words or gestures.

Preventing Assault ... / Extent of justification.

37. (1) Every one is justified in using force to defend himself or any
one under his protection from assault, if he uses no more force than
is necessary to prevent the assault or the repetition of it.

(2) Nothing in this section shall be deemed to justify the wilful
infliction of any hurt or mischief that is excessive, having regard to
the nature of the assault that the force used was intended to prevent.
[R.S. c.C-34, s.37.]


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Chucky Leblanc yapping about Sgt Stephane Vaillancourt's wife and kid again

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Methinks the Fat Fred City Finest, the RCMP and Higgy et al must have noticed their evil blogger buddy Chucky Leblanc yapping about Sgt  Stephane Vaillancourt's wife and kid again N'esy Pas? 


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/chucky-leblanc-yapping-about-sgt.html


#nbpoli#cdnpoli



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjkU1V6i0GA



Here is a little Deja Vu for all the sneaky dudes to enjoy







http://davidamos.blogspot.com/




Tuesday, October 31, 2006

For the record 

Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:11:03 -0800 (PST)
From: "David Amos"
Subject:Fwd: Sgt Vaillancourt just talked byway of 506 452 3431 now I will take a guess 
at his email address
To:mleger@stu.ca, jwalker@stu.ca, plee@stu.ca, carleton@stu.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca

http://www.charlesinthehouse.com/

 
Everybody knows that Chucky Leblanc wasn't the only dude covertly banished from the Legislative Buildling. How come he get all the press I must ask? Perhaps you should ask his old pal and your cohort Kelly Lamrock what gives with this shit sometime N'est Pas?

Hell everyone in your University knows that I was illegally evicted from the polling station at the Student Union Building on January 23rd. Tell me what would Stevey Boy Harper do if that had happened to him? Sue? Am I any less of a man than the Prime Minister.or the French man you and your students support? Now Computer WCIE should search the Blogs Chucky. Live by the sword. Die by the sword so to speak EH? 

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

http://www1.gnb.ca/legis/bios1/bio-e.asp?idNo=102&versionfiltered=e


David Amos wrote:
 
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:23:59 -0800 (PST)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Fwd: Sgt Vaillancourt just talked byway of 506 452 3431 now I will take a guess at his email address
To: write4u@consultant.com

David Amos wrote:

Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:57:07 -0800 (PST)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Sgt Vaillancourt just talked byway of 506 452 3431 now I will take a guess at his email address
To: Stephane.vaillancourt@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, imc-maritimes@riseup.net,oldmaison@yahoo.com, Bill.Fraser@gnb.ca, mary.schryer@gnb.ca,rick.miles@gnb.ca, jack.keir@gnb.ca, Bernard.LeBlanc@gnb.ca,Cheryl.Lavoie@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, john.foran@gnb.ca, giuliano.zaccardelli@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
CC: ted.tax@justice.gc.ca, belord@gnb.ca, DannyWilliams@gov.nl.ca,davies.carl@nbpub.com, bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, carl.urquhart@gnb.ca, claude.landry@gnb.ca,mike.olscamp@gnb.ca, MacKay.P@parl.gc.ca, Day.S@parl.gc.ca, Moore.R@parl.gc.ca,Allen.M@parl.gc.ca, Thompson.G@parl.gc.ca,info@pco-bcp.gc.ca

I warned him that I was a very fierce political animal. I also made it clear to Sgt. Vaillancourt that I have many very justifiable reasons not to trust any cop anymore. I will do as I said and sue the Crown Corp known as the RCMP in the Court of the Queen's Bench in Fredericton unless somebody doesn't act with the scope of their employment ASAP. However I must do as I promised and file my first complaint against the Crown in Federal Court first. 

In the "mean" time perhaps some local cop in New Brunswick should simply do his job and investigate all the material I have given to them over the years. They really stop their bullshit about jusridiction and mandate in order to protect their personal interests. Do they not understand that I can sue them as individuals? There is nothing wrong with exposing the truth about my allegations of criminal conduct in support of public corruption for the benefit of all Canadians. Just act non paritsan and let the politcal card fall where they may. Lawyers and politicains are infinitely replacable and all falsly claim to be ethical as they pick our pockets. I would love to hear my name mentioned in a very public forum even if it was slandered. Before the Yankee elections on November 7th would be nice EH? Politicians cops and lawyers should look to their own personal interests and then uphold the law and the public trust placed in their positions. After all that is their job not mine N'est Pas?

I do not have to do anything any cop or lawyer may wish to suggest anymore. Not all Maritimers are dumb defeatists as Stevey Boy Harper has suggested in the past. At least I am one dumb pigheaded Maritimer who knows the differnce between my rights under the Charter and the government's wrongs practiced against them. I also know when somebody has falied their oath to uphold the law and protect the public interests and I certainly know how to hold them accountable in a legal and ethical fashion. To say you will sue someone is not a threat. It is merely a promise. Most lawyers employ such words everyday and they practice law for a fee.
I have taken no oath to obey other then one to my wife and an unspoken one to my seed.. Thus I obey only my own consience and I stress test my own integrity every day in the best interests of my Clan. It is them whom I serve and protect without a fee because it is my duty to do so just as cops and other public servants etc are gainfully employed to protect us all under oath and rule of law. My family has suffered enough over the past five years. Tis high time I sought monetary relief from our bad acting governemnts in order to bring them home to Canada to live in peace and escape further Yankee malice.
Anyone can check my work. Much of it still remains on file in the public record of many Yankee courts and one Canadian one. I am certain that anyone would agree that my Clan has had amazing patience thus far. I say nay never no more. I have been a student of enough Canadian law to get a good grip on the scene. It is time to put what I learned to good use for the benefit of my Clan. EH?
I am sending three emails to Sgt Vaillancourt and his bosses to protect my own dumb arse from more false allegations I will also use hard copy as evidence against the RCMP in court. Clearly I have introduced him to a few local witnesses EH? Sending these emails to most of them is truly redundant but it is to serve my own ends in the blogs. Charles Leblanc should know by now where to find this particular email posted within a blog. It is easy for anyone call me a liar or crazy as a loon or even to make the false claim that I am some kind of a criminal threat to them. But putting the claim in writing and signng one's name to the document is another kettle of fish. N'est Pas? Try it sometime soon. In fact I Double Dog Dare Ya to.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos


Stéphane Vaillancourt
506-452-3431
506-470-2300 (cell)
506- 558-1270 (pager)

I know for a fact it was my calls to Parliament etc in response to the following words that made the RCMP start to do their job and call me back.

OTTAWA - Wayne Easter, the former solicitor-general who presided during the Arar ordeal, appeared to contradict earlier testimony from RCMP head Giuliano Zacardelli today when he answered questions at a commons committee.
Responding to Justice Dennis O’Connor’s report on the Arar case at the public safety and national security committee, Easter said he was never told the RCMP had passed on false information to the United States and was never told the RCMP tried to correct it, as claimed by Zacardelli.
“I was not informed that the RCMP had provided inaccurate information to the U.S.,” Easter told the MPs.
When Zacardelli met with the committee in September he was asked when he informed his minister about the RCMP’s error, and he replied that he could not recall specifically but that “briefings and timelines started to be prepared for him as the matter came up, and we started providing that information.”
But Easter emphatically told the committee that that information never reached him. In preparation for today’s appearance Easter said he reviewed documents, briefing notes and material he had received during his tenure on the Arar case and met with his staff in order to have a clear timeline of what he knew and when.
In two briefing notes from October and November of 2002, Easter said, “There was no reference to errors in information, no reference to false information, nor was there any reference to any corrective efforts having been made by the RCMP with respect to any of the information which may have been shared.”
The same was true in briefings given in June and July of the following year, Easter testified.
Giving further evidence he was in the dark abut the erroneous information passed on to the U.S., Easter said the issue was never raised with him by his American counterpart Attorney General John Ashcroft. Presumably when American investigators learned they had false information on Arar, Ashcroft would have been briefed on that information, Easter said, and he believes Ashcroft would have shared that with him.
“Attorney General Ashcroft…would have undoubtedly raised that point with me,” Easter said.Asked whether he would have acted differently had he known earlier that Arar had no terrorist links, Easter said he didn’t want to answer hypothetical questions.
Maher Arar, a Canadian citizen, was arrested in the United States in 2002, and sent to his native Syria where he was imprisoned for a year and endured torture before being released without charge.
The committee is planning to recall Zacardelli to clarify his initial testimony and he will likely be asked about the contradictions provided today by his former political boss.
© CanWest News Service 2006

Here is a little proof of how much I study my political opponents. Cya'll in Court :(.

http://cmte.parl.gc.ca/cmte/CommitteePublication.aspx?SourceId=96766


David Amos wrote:

Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:12:58 -0800 (PST)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Say hey to Wayne Easter and the equally dumb Newfy lawyers Rob Moore and Andrew House for me will ya?
To: Guimond.M@parl.gc.ca

David Amos wrote:

Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:27:30 -0800 (PST)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Fwd: Maybe old Zack will explain to the kids the Federal Criminal Code I quoted within this email
To: mccmar@nbnet.nb.ca

David Amos wrote:

Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:13:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Maybe old Zack will explain to the kids the Federal Criminal Code I quoted within this email
To: handsofnothing@yahoo.ca, gcox@citizenspress.org, oldmaison@yahoo.com,ottawaresisters@yahoo.ca, giuliano.zaccardelli@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

David Amos wrote:

Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:55:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Fwd: Keep reading Ms. Roche
To: baldwij@psac.com

David Amos wrote:

Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:03:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Keep reading Ms. Roche
To: lorraineroche@gov.nl.ca, samperrier@hotmail.com, oldehippiebc@hotmail.com,Mayor@ci.milford.ct.us, stevengerickson@yahoo.com, CityClerk@ci.milford.ct.us,jim.amann@cga.ct.gov, judicialreform@cga.ct.gov, kevin.kane@po.state.ct.us,letters@courant.com, carmen.espinosa@jud.state.ct.us,john.driscoll@jud.state.ct.us,mlevenson@globe.com
CC: info@nedlamont.com, Kathleen Dickson , info@joe2006.com,Knibbs4senate@juno.com, haroldford@fordfortennessee.com,staff@destefanoforct.com, info@votethornton.com, ralphferrucci@sbcglobal.net,comments@joecourtney.com, campaign@murphyforcongress.org, greens@ctgreens.org,melinda@bobfarr.com

Just so the Newfys and the Yankees all know, it was Jim Case of the Newfoundland Constabulary (Rarespade) who told me that he saw Whitey Bulger hanging around his town of St. John's when I was preparing to come home to run for a seat in Parliament in 2004 and do a little bounty hunting on the side. No shit ask Byron Prior or Premier Danny Williams etc..

Sam Perrier wrote:

From: "Sam Perrier"samperrier@hotmail.com
To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.comSubject:
RE: Fwd: What say you now Jacky Boy Layton? Cat still got your tongue? Shame onyou. You likely walked past Byron Prior again today
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:36:35 -0230

HOLY SHIT DAVID, THE SCUMBAGS MUST BE CHEWING ON THEIR BOOT STRAPS.
I SENT YOU ANOTHER FAX, ITS VERY INTERESTING, I KNOW YOU WILL GET A CHUCKEL OUT OF IT.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, MAYBE SOMEDAY SOMEONE WITH A BIT OF DECENCY WILL INVESTIGATE BYRON'S SITUATION AND TAKE ACTION, ITWILL ONLY TAKE ONE RAT TO LEAVE THE BURNING BARN SQUEALING AND THE OTHERS WILL FOLLOW TO SAVE THEIR ASSES.
SAM.

From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
To: Hearn.L@parl.gc.ca, Byrne.G@parl.gc.ca, kquigg@nb.aibn.com,rjbasque@forbesrothbasque.nb.ca, dlw@barryspalding.com, cbanb@cbanb.com,albertmf@umoncton.ca, dean@law.ualberta.ca, bobinski@law.ubc.ca,lawdean@ucalgary.ca, comments@michaelignatieff.ca, info@bobrae.ca,lawdean@osgoode.yorku.ca, lawdean@dal.ca, daniel.gervais@uottawa.ca
CC: pswan@ccs.carleton.ca, andre.lareau@fd.ulaval.ca, harvey_secter@umanitoba.ca,dean.law@mcgill.ca, anne-marie.boisvert@umontreal.ca, mockle.daniel@uqam.ca,w.flanagan@queensu.ca, brent.cotter@usask.ca, daniel.b.proulx@usherbrooke.ca,mayo.moran@utoronto.ca, dean@law.uvic.ca, cbrown3@uwo.ca,belman@uwindsor.ca
Subject: Fwd: What say you now Jacky Boy Layton? Cat still got your tongue? Shame on you. You likely walked past Byron Prior again today
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:41:18 -0700 (PDT)

David Amos wrote:

Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:49:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Fwd: What say you now Jacky Boy Layton? Cat still got your tongue? Shame on you. You likely walked past Byron Prior again today
To: greg@currentmag.ca, locke@straylight.ca, ed_hollett@hotmail.com, mgeist@uottawa.ca, DannyWilliams@gov.nl.ca, tommarshall@gov.nl.ca, Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca, Simms.S@parl.gc.ca, Russell.T@parl.gc.ca, Manning.F@parl.gc.ca, Moore.R@parl.gc.ca
CC: oldmaison@yahoo.com, jacques_poitras@cbc.ca, Deb_Nobes@cbc.ca, spinks08@hotmail.com, Duane.Rousselle@unb.ca, ndpnpd@nbnet.nb.ca, mackay01@canada.com, PoliticsNB@hotmail.com, oldmaison.wcie@gmail.com, advocacycollective@yahoo.com, dchafe@atlanticbusinessmagazine.com, cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca, news@kingscorecord.com, news@dailygleaner.com, kcarmichael@bloomberg.net, davies.carl@nbpub.com, urquhart.mia@telegraphjournal.com

Hey Greg 

As you scroll down to the both of the email you see that Stevey Boy Harper byway of the Privy Council’s reply to me can never deny that he don’t know all about Byron Prior and I now. As if he ever could EH? As I told you on the phone this morning, methinks if anyone truly wishes to know the truth of all that you ask you should Google the name of Byron Prior and that of mine as well it is as I said David Raymond Amos. Better yet pick up the phone and call my cell # anytime after 8 pm in the Maritimes and I will take you down the path through the Garden of Good and Evil that will leave you staggering under the weight of the awful truth. As you could tell I am not a shy man. What you may not know is that I am never reckless with the awful truth. My number is 506 434 1379. 

I must say I found it rather hard to believe that a journalist in St John’s Newfoundland has not heard of the name Byron Prior by now. I will allow you the license to claim that you have never heard of me and that federal politics is not your forte. However no Newfy who claims to be a journalist is that dumb or out of touch of the local political scene to not know of the lawsuit between the MP Billy Matthews and Byron Prior on file in the Supreme Court of Newfoundland. You write books. Perhaps you should find Martha Jette’s book about Byron and write one of your own. Rest assured I will mention both of you in mine. 

I ain’t shy about naming names and calling a spade a spade pursuant to the following federal code. One sort of spade I will name is Constable Jim Case of the Newfy Constabulary. He used the name rarespade for his email address as he tortured Byron Prior for years. Hell he even told me saw Whitey Bulger in downtown St. John’s back in 2004. You should know how to read as well as write EH? Check the law. Byron and his friend Paul Perrier have done nothing wrong. But the people acting against them certainly have. EH?

Criminal Code PART VIII: OFFENCES AGAINST THE PERSON AND REPUTATION Defamatory Libel
315. No person shall be deemed to publish a defamatory libel by reason only that he publishes defamatory matter in good faith for the purpose of seeking remedy or redress for a private or public wrong or grievance from a person who has, or who on reasonable grounds he believes has, the right or is under an obligation to remedy or redress the wrong or grievance, if
(a) he believes that the defamatory matter is true;
(b) the defamatory matter is relevant to the remedy or redress that is sought; and
(c) the defamatory matter does not in any respect exceed what is reasonably sufficient in the circumstances.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 279.

You should also know as well as I that people often fail ethical stress tests when it concerns their own interests. It seemed to strange me that you claim on your own website that you know and write of many things but on the phone to you try hard to play dumb. As you could no doubt tell, I gave up on you rather promptly. I see no need to argue on my dime. I am accustomed to that kind of double talk from lawyers and journalists alike when they do not want to know anymore. Obviously the lawyer Michael Geist is both because of the fact he loves to blog about all that he knows. His silence speaks volumes to me.. I contacted him and the Newfy Constabulary etc as soon as I read his post and the words of Paul Perrier recorded by CBC..

So much or for the ethics of professors who expound of the law EH? Clearly the cat or Stevey Boy Harper has got that Upper Canadian lawyer’s tongue. If Geist is so adept with the internet, he should know everything there is to know about Byron Prior and I by now. Clearly I have been studying him. Methinks the Dean of his Law School will have a shit fit in short order after I approach the kids they teach about ethical conduct etc. I think Byron Prior who is in Ottawa once again should go ask that lawyer/professor of Canada’s so called University some questions about publishing the truth on the internet face to face in front of his students. What say you?

. http://www.michaelgeist.ca/component/option,com_tags/task,view/tag,email+spoof/

Geist says this of himself. And I inserted both of your Bios in this email in order to stress test your ethics as well 

I am a law professor at the University of Ottawa where I hold the Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-commerce Law. My current contact information is included below:

University of Ottawa
Faculty of LawCommon Law Section
57 Louis Pasteur
Box 450, Stn. A
Ottawa, ON K1N 6N5
Canada
(613) 562-5800 extension 3319
mgeist@uottawa.ca

It appears by way of CBC reporting of Paul Perrier and the following comment by the Current and others has caused Byron Prior to finally break the ice of his matters in the corporate controlled media. Hooray for Paul Perrier. He did what needed to be done. I wish I had thought of it first. As you shall see he clearly told the truth of what he was doing and why. The fact that I understood his game and supported his efforts out of the gate must have Danny williams panties in quite a knot EH?. Ask yourself why nobody mentions me. Paul Perrier is one man with sand and lots of integrity whom I will stand behind until hell freezes over. Look for these words in my own blog Greg. 

I hope that Paul Perrier does not trust lawyers and the corrupt the Justice System in Newfoundland to protect his rights and interests. Clearly Danny Williams and his cohorts ignore the law all day long. Here is a couple Danny Boy should review before he supports the false imprisonment of another man from the Maritimes. I am going to sue Danny Boy anyway ask his attorney General Tommy Boy Marshall why if you don’t already know.

Criminal Code PART IV: OFFENCES AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATION OF LAW AND JUSTICE Corruption and Disobedience
126. (1) Every one who, without lawful excuse, contravenes an Act of Parliament by wilfully doing anything that it forbids or by wilfully omitting to do anything that it requires to be done is, unless a punishment is expressly provided by law, guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
2) Any proceedings in respect of a contravention of or conspiracy to contravene an Act mentioned in subsection (1), other than this Act, may be instituted at the instance of the Government of Canada and conducted by or on behalf of that Government.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 126; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 185(F).
Criminal Code PART VIII: OFFENCES AGAINST THE PERSON AND REPUTATION Duties Tending to Preservation of Life
217.1 Every one who undertakes, or has the authority, to direct how another person does work or performs a task is under a legal duty to take reasonable steps to prevent bodily harm to that person, or any other person, arising from that work or task.
2003, c. 21, s. 3

Methinks it is the spoken word of honest common men not VOCM in Newfoundland as they gossip about Danny Williams and his cohorts that will save Paul Perrier from malicious prosecution. I say that Paul Perrier did the right thing and that his only offence is to be a minor nuisance to some very major crooks. Canada needs more men like the man the Current has labeled a hero. 

Greg this comment on your post within the Current is emailed to you not posted because I am not a member of your blog nor do I wish to be, You have explained to me that the posting was written by someone else but you are the only contact person.. I find that the post is an interesting stress test of the Ethics of the CBC and the Justice System in Newfoundland as a whole by what appears to be an Independent News organization.. I truly did think by your outfit’s name that your were associated with CBC. Please feel free to post my comment to your post and ask me anything you wish in the hope that I can force CBC to obey its mandate. but computers never do. It seems that only machines are capable of acting within the scope of their employment eh? I will forward the two emails that were spoofed about Danny Williams and the NTV as well. 

Obviously I forwarded this email and the two offending emails to Byron Prior Danny Boy and the NTV and that have made you a witness not only to malicious prosecution but to my own pending complaints as well. It is who that is in the Bcc box and those I forward this email to afterwards that only the Feds and me will know that should cause you the most concern as I stress test your ethics to the max.. Trust that some will respond to this email and bounce it back to me for my records because I am up to something most folks will not believe. Truth is stranger than fiction and I am about to prove it once more.

Many people consider me crazy or worse yet a criminal. However they can never deny that I ran for a Seat in Parliament twice and in two provincial elections thus far. The false allegations and the simple facts do not fit together very well. I must have been slandered EH? 

Many people know the reason that a man who has never voted in his life decided to become a very fierce political animal but nobody will say my name not even Byron Prior because it seems my affairs are very scary indeed. To date not one person other than my brother in law, Norfolk County Deputy Sheriff Robert F. O’Meara has been willing to call me a liar and put it in writing. 

Many people joke and liken me to the Mel Gibson or some other character in a Hollywood movie and suggest I write a book. Well my life ain’t no movie and methinks I should continue living in order to finish the god damned book. Methinks a lot of lawyers and cops will regret that they did not pay better attention to the laws they swore to uphold once the truth of my matters become public knowledge. EH? 

Everybody knows that there is no honour amongst thieves. Soon or later I will break the ice as well Won’t I Mr. Geist?

Criminal Code PART XIII: ATTEMPTS — CONSPIRACIES — ACCESSORIES
465. (1) Except where otherwise expressly provided by law, the following provisions apply in respect of conspiracy:
(a) every one who conspires with any one to commit murder or to cause another person to be murdered, whether in Canada or not, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to a maximum term of imprisonment for life;
(b) every one who conspires with any one to prosecute a person for an alleged offence, knowing that he did not commit that offence, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable
(i) to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years, if the alleged offence is one for which, on conviction, that person would be liable to be sentenced to imprisonment for life or for a term not exceeding fourteen years, or
(ii) to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years, if the alleged offence is one for which, on conviction, that person would be liable to imprisonment for less than fourteen years;
(c) every one who conspires with any one to commit an indictable offence not provided for in paragraph (a) or (b) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to the same punishment as that to which an accused who is guilty of that offence would, on conviction, be liable; and
(d) every one who conspires with any one to commit an offence punishable on summary conviction is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
(2) [Repealed, 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 61]
(3) Every one who, while in Canada, conspires with any one to do anything referred to in subsection (1) in a place outside Canada that is an offence under the laws of that place shall be deemed to have conspired to do that thing in Canada.
(4) Every one who, while in a place outside Canada, conspires with any one to do anything referred to in subsection (1) in Canada shall be deemed to have conspired in Canada to do that thing.
(5) Where a person is alleged to have conspired to do anything that is an offence by virtue of subsection (3) or (4), proceedings in respect of that offence may, whether or not that person is in Canada, be commenced in any territorial division in Canada, and the accused may be tried and punished in respect of that offence in the same manner as if the offence had been committed in that territorial division.
(6) For greater certainty, the provisions of this Act relating to
(a) requirements that an accused appear at and be present during proceedings, and
(b) the exceptions to those requirements,
apply to proceedings commenced in any territorial division pursuant to subsection (5).
(7) Where a person is alleged to have conspired to do anything that is an offence by virtue of subsection (3) or (4) and that person has been tried and dealt with outside Canada in respect of the offence in such a manner that, if the person had been tried and dealt with in Canada, he would be able to plead autrefois acquit, autrefois convict or pardon, the person shall be deemed to have been so tried and dealt with in Canada.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 465; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 61; 1998, c. 35, s. 121.

Criminal Code PART XIII: ATTEMPTS — CONSPIRACIES — ACCESSORIES

463. Except where otherwise expressly provided by law, the following provisions apply in respect of persons who attempt to commit or are accessories after the fact to the commission of offences:
(a) every one who attempts to commit or is an accessory after the fact to the commission of an indictable offence for which, on conviction, an accused is liable to be sentenced to imprisonment for life is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years;
(b) every one who attempts to commit or is an accessory after the fact to the commission of an indictable offence for which, on conviction, an accused is liable to imprisonment for fourteen years or less is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term that is one-half of the longest term to which a person who is guilty of that offence is liable;
(c) every one who attempts to commit or is an accessory after the fact to the commission of an offence punishable on summary conviction is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction; and
(d) every one who attempts to commit or is an accessory after the fact to the commission of an offence for which the offender may be prosecuted by indictment or for which he is punishable on summary conviction
(i) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding a term that is one-half of the longest term to which a person who is guilty of that offence is liable, or
(ii) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 463; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 59; 1998, c. 35, s. 120.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

P.S. If the people at the Current were truly wise they would investigate a really big scoop that no other media has reported on. That said it would not behoove the Current to delete their comment within their own Blog. I already saved a digital copy of the webpage in my reliable little old computer. If they do so it is just another piece of evidence I will employ against the Crown and use to question the Current about why they questioned something one day then ignored the obvious answer a few days later.




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Methinks Higgy et al must understand why I giggle every time my sneaky Green Meanie cousin Megan Mitton and the evil ex-cop Carl Urquhart are quoted by CBC N'esy Pas?


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MLAs in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia say Atlantic bubble needs some work

With the long wait times at border, it can't even be considered a bubble, says New Brunswick Green Party MLA


CBC News· Posted: Jul 07, 2020 11:56 AM AT



There were long lineups waiting to cross into New Brunswick on the first day of the Atlantic bubble Friday. (Submitted by Trevor Wilson)

After the launch of the Atlantic bubble on Friday MLAs from both sides of the Nova Scotia and New Brunswick border agree the system needs work.

Elizabeth Smith-McCrossin, Nova Scotia MLA for Cumberland North, said Friday was a "colossal disaster."

McCrossin is a registered nurse and was shocked by how unsafe the slow-moving traffic was on the first day the Atlantic provinces opened their borders to each other.

"One woman sent me a message saying that she could see 20 different people in ditches defecating and urinating, for example," she told Information Morning Moncton. "It's terrible, but this is what was going on," she told Information Morning Moncton.

Because of the need to provide certain information at border checkpoints, lineups formed quickly, especially at Aulac. By late afternoon cars in both directions were being waved across the border without being stopped.

The plan had been to ask for proof of Atlantic residency, and for certain health and contact information.


Green MLA Megan Mitton said there wasn't enough planning for the launch of the Atlantic bubble. (CBC)

McCrossin, a Progressive Conservative, said the long wait in traffic was dangerous for animals too.
"We had transfer trucks with live animals on them that potentially were in danger. We had to make special circumstances to get them through."

Megan Mitton, the New Brunswick MLA for Memramcook-Tantramar, said she inquired in advance about how essential workers were going to get through the border efficiently.


"There wasn't enough planning in advance," she said. "It still seems that the systems have not been worked out."

Mitton wants attention refocused on airports and the Quebec border, which generally is not open to people who don't fall under certain exceptions, such as essential workers or cottagers with property in the region.

Information Morning - Moncton
MLAs on both sides of the New Brunswick-Nova Scotia border raise concerns about crossing

Megan Mitton is the New Brunswick MLA for Memramcook-Tantramar. Elizabeth Smith-McCrossin is the Nova Scotia MLA Cumberland North. 12:26
Mitton is concerned the bubble provinces aren't all following the same regulations.

"[The four provinces] have not agreed even to similar regulations around airports and how they're going to deal with protecting this bubble because the idea is that people within the bubble don't have community spread right now."

McCrossin said that in Nova Scotia they need to do better with contact tracing and monitoring people who are arriving from outside of the bubble.

However, it's not all bad. Both MLAs agree bubble is a good thing. McCrossin said the chaos just shows how important both border communities are to one another.
"It really shows the value and just how significant our border is to both provinces, and I think it's been underestimated, certainly, by my premier in Nova Scotia."

Mitton said it's been a positive experience for a lot of people being able to reunite with family but challenges remain.

"This isn't really a bubble at this point. It certainly doesn't feel like it to the people who waited for hours and hours," she said.

With files from Information Morning Moncton


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David Amos
Methinks the spindoctors employed by the 4 Maritime premiers and all their political foes must enjoy the circus as much as I do N'esy Pas?









David Amos
Methinks Higgy et al must understand why I giggle every time my cousin is quoted in the news N'esy Pas?


David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks my MLA Wetmore and his leader Higgy must know that their fellow Progressive Conservative Party member Elizabeth Smith-McCrossin is my Clan's MLA in Nova Scotia No doubt Madame Mitton does N'esy Pas?

Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Why ? Do they have a ME Party in Nova Scotia ? Are they huge nuisances and nothing more ? Or are they 180 dgrees the opposite of Dave ? Only reason I can think they'd know or even care !


Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks I'd put $100 on the table she wouldn't even admit to knowing who you are. Heck make it $1000


Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: Missed ya buddy, phone turned off? Bottle picking by the highway isn't as lucrative during COVID is it?























Terry Tibbs
Too bad the provincial planning department were all out of office attending a course outlining the fundamentals of creative shoelace tying? (and next week I hear the varnishing of paper cups course is very popular amongst the patronage appointed)


David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks a lot of them were down in my neck of the woods yesterday listening to Higgy and Franky Boy brag about the Fundy Trail which I and a lot of friends of mine opposed many moons ago N'esy Pas?






https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/atlantic-bubble-aulac-border-traffic-technology-public-safety-1.5638816



Vehicles will get waved through border checks if lines too long, says Public Safety minister

Carl Urquhart has instructed staff to keep traffic backups 'manageable'



Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon· CBC News· Posted: Jul 07, 2020 6:56 AM AT



Public Safety Minister Carl Urquhart said the province wants to make the border experience as easy as possible for travellers. (CBC)

Public Safety Minister Carl Urquhart says he's looking for ways to improve the Atlantic bubble border screening process, but if traffic gets backed up at checkpoints again this weekend, he has instructed staff to wave vehicles through again until the lineups become manageable.

"It's not something that you want to do, but it's something that you've got two options," he said. "Do you leave … the lineups, or do you move them through?"

If a COVID-19 outbreak occurred, the government would try to notify everyone who didn't get registered by using social media and other outlets, Urquhart said.

Last Friday, the first day of the Atlantic bubble, vehicles from Nova Scotia were waved through at Aulac without any of the planned COVID-19 screening or collection of traveller details that could be used for contact tracing in the event of an outbreak.

In fact, about 10 per cent of all vehicles that entered the province between Friday and Monday entered at Aulac without processing — 5,665, according to the premier's office.
Public Safety officials said at the time that traffic congestion represented a safety concern.
On Tuesday, Urquhart said it wasn't a "dangerous situation."

But the lineup was "outweighing what we felt at the time we should do to the people."

He underestimated both the volume of traffic and the tolerance of motorists, he said.


It was his decision to forego screening until the lineups became "manageable again," after discussing the matter with Public Health.

"They understood it had to be done," he said. "And they felt that was quite doable."


Last Friday afternoon, the government decided to forego screening at the Aulac border crossing because traffic congestion represented a safety concern, according to the Department of Public Safety. (Kate Letterick/CBC)

The four Atlantic provinces have opened up their borders to each other, allowing people to travel within the region for non-essential reasons without having to self-isolate for 14 days after crossing a provincial boundary.

New Brunswick has had checkpoints at its Nova Scotia, P.E.I. and Quebec borders since March 25. The Atlantic bubble was portrayed as a big step in recovery after much of the economy was shut down because of the coronavirus.

For the bubble, New Brunswick's plan was to ask for proof of Atlantic residency, a filled-out health questionnaire from each vehicle, and traveller contact information.

Urquhart acknowledged Tuesday the importance of screening people coming into the province.


"We don't want to lose sight of the big picture. We are still in a pandemic and New Brunswick has done very good on controlling the situation when there is a breakout," he said.

Need to balance objectives

But "you get to a point you've got to balance your objective and the objective was to keep people safe. And at the same time, we are in the Atlantic bubble."

"If I had said, 'Look it's a health issue … we're leaving [the Aulac checkpoint] the way it is and the lineup will work its way through,' the risk is about the same," said Urquhart. "It's just a decision that we felt that we can, by opening it up, the risk is not as bad and we wanted to get the people moving."

Urquhart said plans to talk to Public Health about possibly cutting back on the number of questions officers need to ask when it's busy.

"We just want to make the experience as easy as we can."

Risk is 'very low'

The province's chief medical officer of health did not respond to questions about what Public Health is doing now that border protocol has been broken.


"We understand that over the weekend with the implementation of the Atlantic Bubble there was an influx of vehicles and some exceptions were made to ensure traffic safety," Dr. Jennifer Russell said in an emailed statement.

"While the risk in this region is very low, Atlantic Canadians should be self-monitoring at all times, including on vacation, and should call 811 or their primary health-care provider should symptoms occur."

'Not a good thing'

An epidemiologist says failing to gather that information for the vehicles waved through at Aulac was "not a good thing."

"The price of having a bubble of multiple provinces is diligence," said Raywat Deonandan, an associate professor with the faculty of health sciences at the University of Ottawa.

"We're in a strange new time in history where we don't really know how things will really unfold and what exactly to do, so it behooves us to do things carefully and to collect information," he said.
 

Raywat Deonandan, an Ottawa-based epidemiologist, said having online pre-registration and dedicated lanes for trucks and essential workers should help alleviate congestion at the border checkpoints. (Supplied by Raywat Deonandan)

"Anything that compromises our ability to have clean information about who is present, when they came out, what the situation was, potentially compromises our Public Health response."


Another possible "danger" of simply waving people through, said Deonandan, is that someone from outside of the four Atlantic provinces could get "smuggled in."

"You don't want a traveller from the U.S., for example, having free access to your clean bubble because it represents a potential infection threat," he said.

Long waits may become the norm

The decision to wave vehicles through "probably won't result in anything bad," according to Deonandan.

But if an outbreak occurs, officials need to know why and how and where and who and when. "That's what it comes down to."

"It's a tough thing for a lot of people to understand — 'Why am I stuck at the border? I don't have this disease and you know it's so rare in this province anyway, why must I wait?'"

He said he understands people have a psychological need to keep moving and that means border officials may be faced with tempers, but multiple-hour waits are not unusual at international borders.


"So that will probably become the norm here for a while as well. And that's just the way it has to be."

Technology solution coming soon

The Department of Public Safety will launch in the coming days days a "technology-enabled solution" to the traffic problems, said a spokesperson.

It will "help speed up traffic flow," said Coreen Enos.

She did not provide any other details but did reveal a clue.

"Until the new technology is fully implemented," she said, "travellers entering New Brunswick can help speed up the process by printing and filling out the roadside questionnaire and having it ready when they arrive at the border."
 

It takes a few minutes to process each car but people have the option of printing out the questionnaire and filling it out before arrival to save some time during screening. (Kate Letterick )

Prince Edward Island has an online self-declaration form visitors from the other three Atlantic provinces must submit at least a day before their scheduled arrival in order to enter. They must also print a copy of their completed form and bring it with them.


Last Tuesday, the minister told CBC News the province would be moving away from a manual system for gathering info about travellers and details would be available soon.

"Currently, all of this information is recorded manually. We are working towards the implementation of a new system that will assist travellers coming into New Brunswick and will expedite things at the border," Urquhart had said.

Higgs says waits were 'excessive'

Before the bubble opened, Premier Blaine Higgs said his government was prepared for the additional traffic and promised that checkpoints at the P.E.I. and Nova Scotia borders would be adequately staffed.

On Tuesday, at a Fundy Trail Parkway announcement in Sussex, Higgs told reporters the traffic on the first day was "a little more than we expected."

"There were periods of time when the wait times became excessive, like two hours plus, and in a lot of cases commercial traffic was tied up in the middle of it."

Public Safety officials had to "relieve the pressure" because people were waiting too long, he said.
 

Premier Blaine Higgs was unavailable Monday for an interview about the border problems. (CBC)

The Department of Public Safety confirmed Friday night that for safety reasons, officers began at 3:45 p.m. to let vehicles into New Brunswick without checking on anything.

"This continued until congestion no longer represented a safety concern," department spokesperson Shawn Berry had said, without providing a time.

More than 17,000 vehicles entered the province that day, including 9,100 at Aulac, according to the government's dashboard of COVID-19-related statistics. It's unclear if the vehicles that were waved through were included in the statistics.
Overall this weekend, travel proceeded smoothly.
-  Coreen Enos, Department of Public Safety
Enos would not estimate how many vehicles were let through without stopping, explain why things didn't work at the border that day, or what safety concern the long lineup posed.

"Overall this weekend, travel proceeded smoothly," she said in an emailed statement.

"Very heavy traffic on the Trans-Canada Highway at the New Brunswick-Nova Scotia border meant some delays at times in both directions.


"When the lineup got long enough to pose a safety concern, vehicles from Atlantic Canada were allowed to enter without being checked. The normal process resumed when it was safe to do so."

Earlier, another spokesperson for the department said Nova Scotia took similar action when lineups got too long.

New Brunswick and Nova Scotia have different rules for what happens at the border.

Improvements underway

Some improvements have since been made, said Enos.

New Brunswick vehicles, commercial traffic and daily commuters with work passes, as well as those with a Prince Edward Island travel permit, are being "expedited" as they enter New Brunswick from Nova Scotia, she said without elaborating.

Public Safety has also been working with the Department of Transportation and Infrastructure to change the physical layout of screening points to "improve traffic flow.


"We made some changes over the weekend and we expect to make more this week," Enos said. She did not describe the changes.

The minister said he's looking into staffing and signage changes that will speed things up this weekend.

He also wants to look at telling people when the peak times are in hopes of staggering travel times.
"If there is an extensive lineup, I've instructed [staff] to open it up and get it manageable again so that people aren't stuck in their cars for two or three hours."

It's been almost two weeks since New Brunswick Public Health recorded any new cases of COVID-19 in the province.

As of Monday, there is still one active case in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, but no one in hospital with the respiratory disease, according to the government website.

The last time New Brunswick recorded a new case of COVID-19 was on June 23.

As of Monday, there are four active cases in Nova Scotia, five in Prince Edward Island and none in Newfoundland.
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David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise


Ben Haroldson
Reply to @David Amos: I can't wait till the next election. Hopefully you put your hat in again.


David Amos 
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I am considering it 

























 

Johnny Almar
This is beyond dumb.


David Amos  

Content disabled
Reply to @Johnny Almar: What else would you expect from your heroes???


Johnny Almar
Content disabled 
Reply to @David Amos: Arrest you

 
David Amos  

Content disabled
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Snitches get stitches 

























James Edward
what a nanny state, it's a bad flu


Johnny Almar
Reply to @James Edward: to some it’s not even that. To others it’s life threatening.

But so is seasonal flu.

Now we’ve got bunny Ebola.

We can’t live in a bubble forever but there should be no barriers to travel within says bubble. Especially when they wave them through if it’s too busy. Defeats the purpose unless the real purpose is control.


David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Not long ago you were bragging that you were dropping dimes on our neighbours for not obeying Higgy's orders Correct? 


























 
 
Jos Allaire
Higgs and his government are totally useless.


David Amos 
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks their circus is entertaining N'esy Pas?

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @David Amos: It is neverending.


DJ Redfern 
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Well Joe, the "useless" Higgs Govt. has kept you and most New Brunswickers safe from the Corona Virus......Perhaps you could suggest a better plan......A number of enquiring minds are waiting to hear it.....


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
It certainly is an amusing management style. We can all sit at our computers and watch Higgs and company stagger from one disaster to the next.


JJ Carrier 
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Told you that about Higgs in my write-ups about CoR 30 years ago in the Dalhousie News...Check the archive in Campbellton at The Tribune...





























Terry Tibbs
So, I'm guessing the Public Safety Minister is telling us that due to poor planning they were overwhelmed last weekend, and the exact same thing is going to happen this coming weekend, because?
Should we all take a guess?
Shall we all pretend they were too busy to develop a system?
Does this guy have any qualifications?


Ben Haroldson 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: And they will get you to pay there internet bill for them.


Justin Gunther
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: This is actually a colossal disaster when you weigh what happened over the weekend against the rhetoric concerning the dangers of COVID-19 leading up to what happened over the weekend.

It's almost like they think this news article exists in a vacuum all by itself, and for that reason they can just put it out there and tell the world they flew by the seat of their pants, came up with a solution because public safety, and it's not a big deal.

It is actually a colossal disaster when weighed against the COVID-19 rhetoric and also considering the hoops that citizens have been and continue to jump through daily in the name of "flattening the curve."


SarahRose Werner 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: "the exact same thing is going to happen this coming weekend" - If I had a crystal ball that told me what was going to happen this coming weekend, I wouldn't waste it on traffic line-ups. I would use it to get the winning lottery numbers!


Greg Miller 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Sure he has qualifications--he can breath!


Carroll Cameron
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
Stopping cars at the border and questioning people coming in is what they've been doing for 3-4 months now. The only difference is they never got 17,000+ people in a short period of time. The NS border was doing the exact same thing as NB was. During the day there was a lineup 8 km long waiting to get into NS. So why dont you criticize them also? Like NB, they were following the same plan they had had since the border was closed also.


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Makes you wonder where they find these guys who are supposed to lead us through the darkness?


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Carroll Cameron:
Certainly these guys can come up with "better"? They are running around in circles, waving their arms in the air, and talking gibberish, without accomplishing one single thing. They are supposed to be "in charge" and their talents are certainly being wasted here, they would do well instructing other civil servants at paper cup varnishing.


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Such is the nature of a decent circus

























Gina Pietrogiacomo
They were still waving people through as of Monday.


Tim Biddiscombe 
Reply to @Gina Pietrogiacomo: Because of line ups or were they doing it all day?


Charles GALL 
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: I came thru monday had filled form out on line was there including in line wait 15 mins


Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Gina Pietrogiacomo: They were waving them through by Friday afternoon!


David Amos 
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Methinks I touched a nerve or two with you and your buddies in Fat Fred City yesterday N'esy Pas?


























Justin Gunther
Is this a system that could be easily subverted by, for example, stealing a cell phone that has the app already installed on it? Or perhaps through more high-tech trickery? Could vulnerable people be persuaded to put their "Pandemic ID," or whatever it is that this technology is going to leverage, on the market for the highest bidder?

Aren't there people out there hacking key FOBs and stealing late-model high priced vehicles? Are we going to be deploying a solution that is likely to be at least as vulnerable as key FOBs for late-model, high priced vehicles?


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Do all that just to get through a CV19 check point? Quite unlikely..


Justin Gunther
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: I don't share your optimism about the overall state of Canadian national security, I guess. But it clearly wouldn't be done "just to get through a checkpoint," if that actually needs to be explained.


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: There are easier ways to get a fake ID than trying to steal a phone that MAY POSSIBLY have that app on it. How many phones would? You dont submit your SIN number or anything sensitive anyway.. just your name, address and years of residency.


Justin Gunther
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: I'm raising questions about a situation that we don't really know anything about yet, other than that there's a technological solution is in the works and will be deployed shortly.

I wouldn't know what information would be required by the app, if that's what it is, or how it would be leveraged by criminals. I just know we have a country that has plenty of people with the capability and morals to do just that for the right price.

And just in case this reality needs to be explained to whoever is in charge of the project, that is what I'm doing right here right now.

Have a nice day.


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Its not really an app at this point. Its just a govt secured website that has a form on it you fill out and submit to them.


Justin Gunther
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: I know it's not an app at this point. I read the article. I'm not talking about P.E.I's current form solution, or any other province's current solution. I'm talking about the upcoming solution that will leverage technology in a way that we currently aren't being told about, as described in the article.

I read the article.


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Do you file your taxes online? Do you trust that?


Justin Gunther
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: I trust it more than people clearly looking to get in a row online before 9:00am.


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: You?


Justin Gunther
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: :-|.


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: I think you should be more concerned about the millions of ID's that were hacked from private companies that DO include sensitive information. But just my opinion..
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Why wouldn't we be concerned about both, when presumably both the private sector and government are leveraging the exact same technologies for their solutions?

If there is a situation where luxury vehicle manufacturers are putting out key FOBs that can be hacked, and there is, then why wouldn't we be concerned about governments deploying technological solutions in spaces where security should be amongst the highest priorities?


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: I think you are being a little paranoid here. The form that is submitted contains no sensitive information whatsoever and the app would presumably be the same. Millions file their taxes online (or using their phones) that contain very sensitive info ..this form does not.
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: You're talking in circles without addressing what I'm writing. This is no longer a conversation so I respectfully bow out. Maybe somebody else wants to talk about "the form." Have a nice day.


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Run away if you wish..but dont let paranoia ruin things for you. Just friendly advice ;)


Tim Biddiscombe
Reply to @Justin Gunther: What are you concerned about with this form? There is nothing sensitive in it at all. If you dont trust technology, dont use it.


David Amos 
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Check my work in Federal Court in Fat Fred City 



























Ben Haroldson
It's all a crock.


Tim Biddiscombe 
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: How so?


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
I'm *thinking* it's a Higgs make work program............ pre-election make work program.


David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Me Too


 





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Doctor accused in Campbellton COVID-19 outbreak won't face criminal charges, says lawyer

Dr. Jean Robert Ngola still seeks apology from Premier Blaine Higgs



CBC News· Posted: Jul 08, 2020 11:47 AM AT



Dr. Jean Robert Ngola practised at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and in the community since 2013, but is suspended. (Shane Fowler/CBC)


The doctor accused of being patient zero in the Campbellton COVID-19 outbreak has been notified he won't face criminal charges, according to his lawyer.

Dr. Jean Robert Ngola is still seeking an apology from Premier Blaine Higgs and his lawyer, Joël Étienne, has now threatened legal action to get one.

Ngola travelled to Quebec the week of May 10 to retrieve his four-year-old daughter and didn't self-isolate upon his return.


Higgs never publicly named Ngola, but blamed a cluster of cases in the Campbellton region on an "irresponsible" medical professional who travelled to Quebec for personal reasons, "was not forthcoming about their reasons for travel upon returning to New Brunswick" and didn't self-isolate.

Étienne says his client was questioned by the RCMP to determine whether charges for negligence causing death or bodily harm should be laid.
But Étienne says he received confirmation a few days ago that no criminal charges will be laid.

This does not preclude the possibility of a charge being laid under the Emergency Measures Act. On this point, the RCMP maintains the investigation continues.

Last month, Étienne wrote a letter to the premier, saying he had proof his client was not patient zero and seeking a public apology.



Joël Étienne, lawyer to Dr. Jean Robert Ngola, says he received confirmation a few days ago that no criminal charges will be laid. (EME Professional Corp.)


"For us, it is a truth that he has always been innocent and that is why we ask the premier of the province once again to apologize," said Étienne.

If Higgs refuses to apologize, Ngola's lawyer has called the option of going to court to move the case forward "very serious."


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Too early to predict economic toll from COVID-19

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Too early to predict economic toll from COVID-19

15 per cent of survey respondents contemplating bankruptcy


Mia Urquhart· CBC News· Posted: Jul 09, 2020 5:00 AM



Some businesses that closed temporarily during the lockdown have remain closed. Business groups say it's too soon to predict how many will never reopen. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)


While the economic death toll from COVID-19 isn't yet clear, recent layoff announcements likely foreshadow bad news in the coming months, say some business leaders.

Figuring out how many businesses won't survive the pandemic is "a really elusive target that we do need to get a handle on," said John Wishart, the chief executive officer of the Chamber of Commerce for Greater Moncton.

Wishart said it's important to track the casualties in order to "respond accordingly."


He said his chamber is part of a larger regional group trying to track the numbers and, so far, a clear picture isn't emerging.

"I think it's just a complete shot in the dark in terms of the number of business closures," said Wishart.

He suspects it'll take another six to 12 months to really see what kind of toll COVID-19 has taken on New Brunswick businesses.


A survey by the Canadian Federation of Independent Business shows New Brunswick at the top for percentage of workers back on the job. (Canadian Federation of Independent Business)


The first real test will come after government funding comes to an end in the coming weeks, said Wishart.

"Can you survive without that wage support? Or will it mean having to re-lay off some people — perhaps permanently this time around."

He suspects recent layoffs may offer a hint of financial trouble ahead. Irving Oil just announced 250 job cuts, while Organigram previously announced 220, WestJet nearly 280, and Atlantic Lotto, 60.

"I'd love to say that's the end of it, but we know it's not," Wishart said. "We can probably expect to see other announcements — maybe not the same size — for the next six months or so."
If businesses survive at the cost of huge job losses, Wishart wonders if the economy is any better off.
At one point, he said, 50,000 New Brunswickers were out of work — "some of them temporarily, but that's still a huge percentage of the overall workforce.

"There is a domino effect through all this. If good-paying jobs disappear, then that's tough on retail shops, on restaurants and grocery stores. So it still has a net cumulative negative impact on the economy."

And if companies can't get back on fiscal track after laying off employees, the outcome usually isn't good, said Wishart.

"I think what we're seeing is a retrenchment in terms of the size of operations and the number of people that are employed as a first step or first wave of impact.

"And if that doesn't work … the next step will be probably permanent closure."
 

In the most recently published survey by the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, New Brunswick tops the list for percentage of businesses open. (Canadian Federation of Independent Business)


The Canadian Federation of Independent Business's director of provincial affairs for New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island said "it's way too early" to know how many businesses will fall victim to COVID-19.

But Louis-Philippe Gauthier said business owners are definitely worried about it.

In a recent survey, 15 per cent of respondents in New Brunswick said they were "actively considering bankruptcy/winding down my business as a result of COVID-19."
While 68 per cent of businesses are open, 70 per cent of these say they are operating below normal revenue.

"How much of that is going to translate over the next six to 12 months into business failures is something that we're actively looking at," said Gauthier.

"When you look at 14 to 15 percent of our members in New Brunswick saying they're potentially considering closing down their businesses or declaring bankruptcy, those are numbers that, even if they're small, they're very important and something that we have to be mindful of."

Looking for help

The CEO of the Saint John Region Chamber of Commerce said it's likely too early to gauge the economic fallout because businesses are still exploring the funding available to them.

"I don't think we know what that number will look like, but I estimate that it's going to be high in our region," said David Duplisea.

"People are looking for information and advice and they're looking for ways to reinvent themselves," he said.

While he's not sure it's a positive sign at this stage, he hasn't heard of any businesses that have already decided to call it quits.
 

In the most recently published survey by the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, 46 per cent of respondents reported making half or less of normal sales this time of year. (Canadian Federation of Independent Business)


He said certain industries will be particularly hard hit, including those based on hospitality and tourism. Restaurants, for example, have been faced with a "multi-dimensional dilemma," he said.

They already operate on slim margins and are forced to reduce capacity to enable physical distancing. Add to that, consumer reluctance to dine out, and reduced tourism numbers, and the future looks pretty bleak, said Duplisea.

Any business that found itself struggling before COVID-19, will likely not survive, he said.



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David Amos
This is not a problem for rocket scientists to resolve I trust that any Maritimer with two clues between their ears has already figured it out


Tim Biddiscombe 
Reply to @David Amos: So whats your answer for businesses in trouble, genius?
 
 
James Smythe 
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: A complete reopening, while all the freshly minted hypochondriacs can stay home for as long as they want is the only solution. I’d prefer a virus with 0.2% mortality rate than a 15% chance or higher of complete long lasting economic suicide.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Trust that your buddies know I answered that question during a televised debate on Rogers TV during the last Federal election Ask Wishart He was one of the dudes who oversaw that circus while I was arguing Gauthier in secret meetings about NB Power at the same point time
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: I owned and ran a successful business in NB while you hustled blue jeans in Ontario for Yankees Correct? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Terry Tibb
I find it amusing that this information, generated by folks who have an obvious self interest, is being presented to us as "news".
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Trust that I have already crossed paths with both those dudes in Moncton in a bigtime fashion
 
 
Tim Biddiscombe 
Reply to @David Amos: How can anyone trust anything you say, N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Ask me in court

















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Documentary warns of 'catastrophic' changes happening in Gulf of Maine

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Documentary warns of 'catastrophic' changes happening in Gulf of Maine

Scientist says people who live and work along Bay of Fundy should be 'very concerned'



Steven Webb· CBC News· Posted: Jul 09, 2020 6:00 AM AT



A still image from the documentary Reckoning With Climate Change In The Gulf Of Maine. Produced by the University of New England, it airs on PBS in Maine this week. (University of New England/YouTube)


When Charles Tilburg was approached by the University of New England's communications team about making a documentary on climate change in the Gulf of Maine, he was immediately excited by the idea.

The professor of oceanography and director of the school of marine programs at the Maine university saw it as an opportunity to show people just how serious the situation is becoming in the gulf.

"I want them to be alarmed," Tilburg said, "I want them to realize that there has to be change to the status quo for us to address what's going on in the Gulf of Maine and, in fact, in the world's oceans."



Tilburg said the Gulf of Maine, which sits at the mouth of the Bay of Fundy, is warming faster than 99 per cent of the world's oceans, and the effects are already being seen, especially with the arrival of species not normally found in those waters..

"The lobstermen are finding seahorses in their lobster traps," Tilburg said. "They're bringing up blue crab, you know, crab that normally are in Virginia."



Oceanography professor Charles Tilburg is one of the University of New England scientists involved in the project. He says the Gulf of Maine is warming faster than 99 per cent of the world's oceans. (University of New England/une.edu)


"Fishermen aren't able to get as many cod or haddock or any of the groundfish, so they're going out there and they're spending more time and more effort catching less fish.

"And this is happening now. I mean, lots of times when you talk about climate change, you talk about what's going to happen in the future, but our fishermen are seeing it now."

Tilburg said there are also more algal blooms, known as red tide, and more beach closures because of it.

A big, shallow bathtub

Scientists believe the Gulf of Maine is warming faster because it essentially acts as a shallow bathtub, where warm water from the Gulf Stream and nearby rivers are balanced out by cold water from the Labrador Current.

Think of it as a warm and cold water faucet, Tilburg said. But now the cold water faucet, the Labrador Current, is being turned down.

The gulf is now warming seven to eight times faster than it was 15 years ago.

Tilburg said people who live along the Bay of Fundy should be very concerned about what's happening in the Gulf of Maine.

He said that in the short term, say five or six years, the bay may actually see an increase in some fish species as they move north in search of colder waters.

But that's not likely to last.
 

Charles Tilburg, seen here while filming, says the health of the gulf should be a concern for anyone living in the region. (University of New England/une.edu)


"They can't go much farther north up into the Bay of Fundy, so these different populations are going to start migrating up north and more into the Arctic Ocean," said Tilburg.

"Long term, it's going to be catastrophic to the fish species that people in the Bay of Fundy normally fish for."

The documentary, titled Reckoning With Climate Change in the Gulf of Maine, features scientists and policy experts from the University of New England and other researchers in the state, local fishermen and policy makers in government.

Tilburg said it tries to stay away from statistics and numbers and instead tells the story of the Gulf of Maine.

'Be alarmed'

"They tried to get a whole swath of different people and perspectives on it, so that there's a piece that everyone's going to be interested in," Tilburg said.

The film also focuses on what people can do to help.

"I want them to think 'What can I, as a citizen of the United States or a citizen of Canada, actually do about it?' and be alarmed enough that they want to take action," Tilburg said.

"Like, I don't want them at the end to just be demoralized. I want them to realize we can make changes and we can mitigate the change."
 

The documentary by staff at the University of New England airs on PBS in Maine this week. (University of New England/YouTube)


"Where they can be the most effective is in two things: on the pressure that individuals put on companies so that they become more globally aware, and on their governments.

He said if the Gulf of Maine keeps warming, it will lose its lobster and groundfish.

"We're going to be invaded by blue crabs, all the populations in the Gulf of Maine are gonna change, and that's going to affect everyone in the Northeast," Tilsburg warned.

And it won't take long,

"This isn't going to happen over 50 to a 100 years. This is going to happen over 10 years."

The documentary will air on PBS in Maine on Thursday at 10 p.m. Atlantic time and again on Saturday at 3 p.m.

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David Amos 
Good luck getting enough folks to care until its too late


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
Pssst: it is too late. (don't tell anyone, there is no money to be made, or funding to be sourced, to prevent something that has already happened)
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks the fat lady ain't sung yet but old lady Lou will likely drop in to add her nasty two bits worth N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Why didn't you call me or was somebody pretending to be you who sent me the email about Lou?
 
 
Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
Maybe the fat lady hasn't sung yet, but the song is on tape, and will be played in about 25 years no matter the gyrations we choose to go through.
 
 
Johnny Jakobs 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: ACOA Grants to the St Andrew's Biological Station every year. Millions of dollars with very little output. Lots of fancy cameras, ROVS, big SmartTVs, drones and all the add ons.
 
 
Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs:
Just another government make work project.
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
I didn't realize you sent me a number, my bad, or maybe a brain fart?
I'll get back to you.
 
 
Johnny Jakobs 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: lolol... exactly
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I thought I smelled something strange last week

















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New Brunswick's economy adds 22,000 jobs in June

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Methinks I have shown that I have a strong personal antipathy towards Higgy et al. I like butters tarts too but it does not follow that I would accept any from these mindless evil clowns N'esy Pas? 



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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Cardy, Dominic (LEG)"Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 19:59:00 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo Dominic Cardy If so then you neo cons best start
feeding your Butter Tarts to your pussy cat named Puffin because they
are clearly rotting your brains N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Cc: "Wright, Hamish (LEG)"Hamish.Wright@gnb.ca

Dear David,

Did you get your package? I hope it went to the right address and that
you felt, on eating your tasty Tim Horton snacks, that we are all part
of one loving human family.

Merry Christmas and more buttery goodness to you and yours,

Dominic

PS. Puffin says "meow"!






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From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"<Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:00:25 +0000
Subject: RE: YO Dominic Cardy how can you Conservatives brag of buying Butter Tarts
when CBC tells me you dudes have to sell your HQ? Yet you wackos want control of
our provincial economy"
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.  Please be
assured  that your email will be reviewed.

If this is a media request, please forward your email to
media-medias@gnb.camedia-medias@gnb.ca>.  Thank you!

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Si ceci est une demande médiatique, prière de la transmettre à
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New Brunswick's economy adds 22,000 jobs in June

The province gained 13, 500 full-time jobs and 8,700 part-time jobs


Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jul 10, 2020 11:38 AM AT



Canada's economy added almost a million jobs last month, as businesses reopened after COVID-19 shutdowns. (Matt York/Associated Press)

As the first province to begin easing COVID-19 restrictions, New Brunswick saw employment increase by 22,000 jobs last month, bringing levels back to 97.1 per cent of what they were in February, before COVID-19.

New Brunswick's recovery performance in June was the best of the 10 provinces, which have been reopening at different rates after the shutdown forced by the pandemic.

The province gained 13, 500 full-time jobs and 8,700 part-time jobs, Statistics Canada reported Friday in its monthly labour force survey.
The New Brunswick unemployment rate is at 9.9 per cent.

The unemployment rate was  8.5 per cent in February after the loss of 900 full-time jobs


DePratto expects to see continued improvement in the province, but not necessarily at such a fast pace. He used the example of the travelling tourism sector and indoor sporting events.

"It's a very impressive performance," he said.

Jobs added across Canada

Canada's economy added almost a million jobs last month, as businesses reopened.

Statistics Canada revealed the economy added 953,000 jobs during the month, adding to the 290,000 it added the previous month. But despite that two-month stretch, there are still 1.8 million fewer jobs in Canada today than there were in February.

The jobless rate fell to 12.3 per cent, down from the record high of 13.7 it hit in May.

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Elizabeth Fraser
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Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca


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David Amos
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YO Mr Cyr Methinks I have shown that I have a strong personal antipathy towards Higgy et al. I like butters tarts too but it does not follow that I would accept any from them N'esy Pas? 


David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos:
"Cash-strapped PCs selling party headquarters in Fredericton
The Regent Street building could be all yours for just $479,000"

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jan 12, 2018 6:30 AM AT

Methinks everybody knows that while his 'Chief of Staff" Cardy was sending me butter tarts Higgy was trying to sell his HQ Yet two years later these clowns bragged that they saved our economy N'esy Pas?













David Amos
"New Brunswick's recovery performance in June was the best of the 10 provinces"

Hmmmm

Methinks the numbers tell me that Nova Scotia's stats are better N"esy Pas?


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
You aren't supposed to notice that bit.


David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: At least Lou the tr o lls don't dispute it yet


























James Smythe
Here’s the only part of the story that matters:

“ After learning about the job cuts at Irving Oil, Premier Blaine Higgs said, he was disappointed”.

No surprise where his allegiances lie.


Ray Oliver 
Reply to @James Smythe: And he was expected to say???


David Amos 
Reply to @James Smythe: Par for the course


Dan Lee 
Reply to @Ray Oliver
He should have said .........no more money..................you have received enough


Ray Oliver 
Reply to @Dan Lee: Oh come on that's not nearly nasty enough for all the Irving haters on here. Gotta have something better than that!


Jos Allaire
Reply to @James Smythe: Nothing needed to happen in order to figure that out!

























Norman Albert Snr
New jobs or just people going back to pay check to pay check existence. "Not counting recent job cuts"!!!! CBC shilling for another Irving government?


David Amos 
Reply to @Norman Albert Snr: Yup

























Robert Langue
And it's all thanks to Trudeau and Vickers!


Dan Armitage 
Reply to @Robert Langue: love the sarcasm haha


Jos Allaire
So, you guys think it's Higgs?


David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks you should relax and enjoy the circus N'esy Pas? 
 

Ian Scott
A nuance perhaps, but these are not jobs "added" , these are jobs recovered.


David Amos 
Reply to @Ian Scott: Oh so true




























Jim Cyr
Outstanding leadership in NB


Jos Allaire 
Reply to @Jim Cyr: It's the doing of private enterprise. The government has little to do with it.


Jim Cyr 
Reply to @Jos Allaire: You always show that you have a strong personal antipathy towards Higgs and his team. If they hadn’t handled the Wuhan Virus so well, the recovery would not have started. Facts.


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Jim Cyr:
The "fact" is they were following the federal lead.
Who was attempting to close hospitals a very short few weeks before the virus hit?
Short memory much?


David Amos 
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Yea Right



























Les Cooper
Does this include temp. Foreign w9rkers?


David Amos 
Reply to @Les Cooper: Good question



























Justin Gunther
When will the government jobs be lost in departments that are clearly now overstaffed? If the Fredericton public library is only open half the time and only offers half the services then we clearly don't need a full staff, right?

Very encouraging job numbers though. Once we get rid of the useless positions perhaps we could reinvest the money in rebuilding the economy.

Alternatively, resume normal services so that I and others like me can access printing services because I ACTUALLY REALLY NEED TO PRINT SOME THINGS.

Thanks and have a nice day.


David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Staples is open for business

Justin Gunther 
Reply to @David Amos: Thank you sir. If these are the lengths that we must go through then of course something needs to be restructured at the library. We aren't seriously going to tolerate a situation of INDEFINITE half the staff comes in, the other half sits on the couch watching Netflix "For our safety," are we? Apologies if that's not exactly, 100% the scenario. I wouldn't know the true scenario because people have jobs to protect.

Are we waiting for a new colored phase thing to come into play or something? I wouldn't know because I don't have an hour to find the right news story or parse the conflicting nonsense it contains.
Justin Gunther 
Reply to @Justin Gunther: I'm also quite sure you can't print from a webpage in Staples. But maybe I'm wrong about that.
Justin Gunther 
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Maybe somebody at the library can release an update over TikTok to let us all know.
Justin Gunther 
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Is it at all possible that these positions are being maintained for political reasons, like bolstering jobs report numbers?
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Buy a cheap printer and print away at home
Justin Gunther 
Reply to @David Amos: I bought refills for my inkjet, but becaus Canon loves the planet they made the software so refills don't work in these specific cartridges.

I called the library and was advised that even though the lab is still down and printing services still technically not available that they would help me print the forms I need.
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: FYI I just bought 2 used HP Laserjets for 50 bucks each to use for my next round of litigation in Fat Fred City
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure

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Elizabeth May ponders future after Green Party's support for Israeli boycott policy

May calls Boycott Divestment and Sanctions movement 'polarizing' and says she opposes it

 
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lizabeth May says she is questioning whether she can continue in her role as leader of the Green Party, after its members voted in favour of a resolution supporting sanctions against Israel, despite her own opposition to it. 2:59

Elizabeth May says she is questioning whether she can continue in her role as leader of the Green Party, after its members voted in favour of a resolution supporting sanctions against Israel, despite her own opposition to it.

The Greens became Canada's first federal party to endorse the Boycott Divestment and Sanctions movement during the party's biennial convention in Ottawa over the weekend. Some Canadian Jewish groups denounced the Green Party for supporting a boycott policy against Israel. The House of Commons condemned the movement in February.
We had a very abbreviated debate and a very quick vote that left me breathless.
- Elizabeth May, MP Saanich-Gulf Islands
"I'm struggling with the question of whether I should continue as leader or not, quite honestly," May told Rosemary Barton in an interview with The National.

"I'm quite certain most of our members don't support this policy, but weren't fully engaged in the consensus building process we normally would have had," she said.

"So if I can't find a way to bring that back and have the members review it with a consensus decision-making process, then I have to profoundly question whether I can continue as leader and that's obviously heart-breaking."

May added that a review could be possible if she stepped down as leader.

"One way to bring it forward is under our constitution if I step down, then we have to have a leadership convention sooner and they could deal with this issue," she said. "I mean there are other options that we are looking at that I'm trying to figure out if there's a way that… we can review this through some other mechanism."

"I don't have great answers for you now because I'm struggling with this," she said.
May had earlier said Tuesday morning in an interview with CBC Radio's On the Island she would take the next week off and "doing a lot of reflecting."

"It's only been since the convention that I've been wondering what's the best way to get this position reversed so that in the next election Green Party candidates across Canada are not facing a complete distraction of an issue," she told CBC's Khalil Akhtar.
May said she didn't get a chance to explain why she is opposed to the BDS movement, which she sees as "a polarizing campaign." 

"We had a very abbreviated debate and a very quick vote that left me breathless, because we actually never really properly debated this motion. I oppose it entirely, but it carried on the floor, although not overwhelmingly."

The Green leader said while she doesn't "condemn" the members who put forward the motion — some of whom are "friends" — but she added "the process was inadequate for a resolution this controversial."

BDS 'a polarizing movement'

May told Barton she was disappointed in the minimal debate over supporting the boycott movement and that the party didn't "use our normal decision-making process in seeking consensus."

"It doesn't mean that I don't want to be free to criticize what's happening in the Middle East and to support Palestinian rights, I just think it's a large-scale error for a party as credible as the Green Party to attach itself to a movement that is outside of us and attracts all kinds of people, some wonderful worthy people like the United Church and the Mennonites, and other people over whom we'll have no control but we'll be lumped in with them," said May.

May, who is the MP for Saanich-Gulf Islands, said she would continue to represent her constituents until the next federal election in 2019.

"If there's ever a place where I decide that being leader of the Green Party doesn't help me do the best job I can do for the constituents of Saanich-Gulf Islands then I know where my allegiance lies — and it's with Saanich-Gulf Islands."

May, who is a member of a special parliamentary committee tasked with proposing changes to Canada's electoral system, said she couldn't allow this issue to distract her from "promoting fair voting" or any other of her party's priorities.

"To what extent is this motion, so distracting and the fact that I oppose it, inconsistent with my role as leader? Those are the things I have to consider," she said.

May received 93.6 per cent support from party members during a leadership review in April.


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Elizabeth May Misleads Canadian Jewish News, Smears BDS Supporters

On May 6, 2019, Paul Manly of the Green Party of Canada won a historic byelection in the B.C. riding of Nanaimo-Ladysmith. For the first time in over 35 years of existence, the Green Party will now have two MPs who both won their seats under the Green Party banner.
The other Green MP is, of course, Green Party leader Elizabeth May.
Paul is the son of former NDP MP Jim Manly. In 2015, before joining the Green Party, Paul sought the NDP nomination in the same riding, but the NDP, then led by Tom Mulcair, shamefully blocked Paul’s nomination.
At the time, Paul revealed that the rejection of his candidacy was related to Israel/Palestine:
I was told verbally on the phone, that the reason was in relation to what I said and did when my father was in Israel. There was also concern that I was running to make Israel and Palestine an election issue.
In 2012, Paul’s father Jim was arrested by Israeli authorities for trying to break peacefully through Israel’s inhumane blockade of Gaza. Jim was released a few days later.

The Zionist Lobby’s Attacks On Paul Manly Have Already Begun

In light of Paul’s history, it is all-too-predictable that the Zionist lobby began attacking Paul within days of his victory.
On May 10, 2019, Canadian Jewish News (CJN) published an article entitled “Concerns Raised Over New Green MP’s Views On BDS.” The concerns, of course, were those of the usual pro-Israel suspects:  the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA), B’nai Brith Canada and the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Centre (FSWC).
Leading the charge was CIJA CEO Simon Fogel, who thundered that “The Green party has been co-opted by extreme activists who – in their obsessive campaign of prejudice against Israelis – threaten the party’s own credibility and relevance in Canadian politics.”
The CJN article is rife with hyperbole, falsehoods and distortions, but my purpose in writing this post is not to address the invective from the usual suspects. Rather, my purpose is to expose the misinformation emanating from Elizabeth May.
The CJN article reported that Elizabeth May gave a telephone interview to CJN staff reporter Paul Lungen. After that interview, Lungen attributed to Elizabeth May various statements that are false or, at a minimum, highly misleading.
May’s false and misleading statements are contained in the following passages from CJN‘s article.
In a telephone interview from Ottawa, Green Party Leader Elizabeth May said the party repealed the August 2016 pro-BDS resolution in December of that year. It spent $100,000 and went to great lengths to reconvene a larger gathering of the party, in order to do so.
“We have nothing to do with BDS,” May said. “We repealed it. We are not a party that condones BDS. We would never tolerate anybody in our party who violates our core values, who are anti-Semitic.”
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Asked about Lascaris, May said he was no longer in the party. “I expelled Dimitri Lascaris,” she said.
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May pointed to Vision Green, the Green party’s platform on a number of issues, including the Israeli-Palestinian dispute.
In it, the party endorses Israel’s right to exist, calls for an end to violence and says the Green party will “Accurately label products so that consumers can differentiate between products of Israel and those of disputed areas,” and “Amend the Canada-Israel Free Trade pact to allow for product differentiation.”
It also calls for “an end to the collective siege of Gaza so that medical and humanitarian aid can be provided,” and urges “Israel to stop expansion and the building of illegal settlements beyond the 1967 borders.”
Before I unpack these falsehoods and misleading statements, it is important to recall the history of this matter.

The Green Party’s BDS Resolution

I had the privilege of working with Paul Manly in 2016, when I served briefly as Justice Critic in the Green Party shadow cabinet.
(In the interests of full disclosure, I donated $400 to Paul’s recent electoral campaign.)
My seven months in the Green Party of Canada’s shadow cabinet were tumultuous, to put it mildly.
Shortly after Elizabeth May invited me to join shadow cabinet, I travelled to Israel and the West Bank for the fourth time in my life.  There, I witnessed the daily oppression under which Palestinians are forced to live. Their current plight seemed to me to be worse than ever.
That experience left an indelible impression upon me, and moved me to bring forward a Green Party resolution calling for the party to support the use of boycotts, divestment and sanctions to bring an end to Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank and to induce Israel to negotiate a just and sustainable two-state solution with the Palestinian people.
This was the full text of my proposed resolution:
Original BDS ResolutionContrary to claims that were made at the time, my proposed resolution was not an endorsement of the BDS Movement. In fact, the resolution made no reference to the BDS Movement. More importantly, and as I explain more fully below, the BDS Movement has three fundamental goals. My resolution addressed only one of those goals: ending Israel’s occupation of and settlements in the Palestinian territories of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza.
After deciding to bring forward the BDS resolution, I soon learned that Elizabeth May was opposed to BDS. In good conscience, however, I could not withdraw the resolution after what I had seen in Palestine. I decided to persevere despite May’s opposition, expecting fully that I would lose in the end, but that I would at least draw attention to the immense suffering of Palestinians.
To my considerable surprise, at the party’s biannual convention in August 2016, a large majority of the members in attendance voted in favour of the resolution over the objections of Elizabeth May.
Within days of that unexpected victory for human rights, Elizabeth May threatened to resign as Green Party leader.
Under intense pressure, the party’s Federal Council hastily organized a special meeting of the party’s members, the primary purpose of which was, without doubt, to engineer a repeal of the BDS resolution.
I and the dozens of other Green Party members who had worked tirelessly to secure the resolution’s adoption decided to resist.
At that stage, the party was threatened by a divisive battle.

The New Green Party Resolution on Israel / Palestine

In order to avoid lasting damage to party unity, Paul Manly and another shadow cabinet member, Jo-Ann Roberts, were appointed to lead negotiations between those who wished to preserve the resolution and those who wished to secure its repeal. The objective was to find a compromise that everyone could live with. I was one of three shadow cabinet members who led the negotiations on behalf of those who wished to preserve the BDS resolution.
Thanks in no small part to the admirable efforts of Paul and Jo-Ann, a compromise resolution was agreed to by the main negotiators in November 2016, a few weeks prior to the special meeting Federal Council had hastily called after Elizabeth May’s threat of resignation.
At the time that an agreement was reached, Paul and Jo-Ann issued this statement to Green Party members announcing the successful conclusion of the negotiations:
Screen Shot 2019-05-14 at 12.14.12 PMThat statement to party members was unambiguous in declaring that the new resolution had Elizabeth May’s “full support.”
The new resolution was presented to the members at a special meeting held in Calgary in December 2016. It was adopted with the support of 84% of the members present at the special meeting. A month later, it was ratified by 91% of Green Party members who voted in an online vote.

Does the Green Party of Canada Now Support BDS?

It is true that the new resolution (the full text of which can be examined at the end of this article) omitted the dreaded acronym “BDS”, but it is equally true that the new resolution went much further than the original BDS resolution.
First, the new resolution explicitly endorsed not one but all three of the goals of BDS Movement. Those goals are stated clearly on the website of the BDS Movement. They are stated to be as follows:
  1. Ending Israel’s occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantling the Wall;
  2. Recognizing the fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality; and
  3. Respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN Resolution 194.
Now let’s compare these stated goals to the following passages from the Green Party’s new resolution on Israel / Palestine.
Screen Shot 2019-05-14 at 12.53.19 PMResolution 194 was adopted by the U.N. General Assembly in the 1940s. It provides that:
refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible.
It is thus clear that the Green Party’s new resolution on Israel / Palestine endorsed all three goals of the BDS Movement: the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homeland; full equality for Palestinians living in Israel; and an end to the settlements and the occupation of Palestinian Territories.
The same is true of the tactics of the BDS Movement: the Green Party’s new resolution on Israel / Palestine endorsed the BDS Movement’s tactics of boycotts, divestment and sanctions, as is clear from this passage (among others):
Screen Shot 2019-05-14 at 12.58.07 PMNot only did the new resolution endorse in broad terms the three core tactics of the BDS Movement, but it also did something else that the original resolution did not do: it explicitly called for specific types of sanctions to be imposed upon Israel, namely, an arms embargo and a ban on the importation into Canada of products from Israel’s illegal settlements.
One other respect in which the new resolution surpassed the original is that the new resolution called on the Government of Canada to ask the International Criminal Court (ICC) to prioritize its investigation into charges of potential war crimes by members of the Israeli forces. The original resolution made no reference to the ICC or to the commission of war crimes by Israeli forces.

What Is A Movement?

At the end of the day, a movement is defined essentially by its goals and tactics.
The Green Party’s new resolution on Israel / Palestine unequivocally embraced goals and tactics that are indistinguishable from those of the BDS Movement.
Elizabeth May is reported to have told the CJN that “We have nothing to do with BDS. We repealed it. We are not a party that condones BDS.”
Those claims are false, and undeniably so.
This is not the first time that the Green Party leadership has misled the public about the new resolution. From the moment that the new resolution was adopted in Calgary, the Green Party apparatus has issued statements that have deceived the media and the public about the true nature of the party’s support for BDS.
For example, within hours of the completion of the Calgary meeting, the party issued a press release – without my consent or foreknowledge – declaring that we had “rejected the goals of the BDS movement.” This was a gross falsehood about which I and others complained vigorously at the time. Those complaints led to a modification of the GPC’s statement about the new resolution, but not before the party’s original statement caused the media to issue false reports about the resolution, such as this one:
Screen Shot 2019-05-14 at 1.14.37 PMFinally, in her comments to the CJN, Elizabeth May reportedly talked about statements made within Vision Green about Israel and Palestine. It is important to understand that Vision Green is not a comprehensive compilation of the member-approved policies of the party, although it is certainly influenced by member-approved policies.  The leader of the party exercises vast control over the content of Vision Green. In important respects – and this is certainly true with regard to Israel and Palestine – Vision Green is akin to a marketing document; it represents the leader’s preferred messaging rather than the policies adopted by the members to whom the leader is purportedly answerable.

Are The Thousands of Greens Who Support BDS Anti-Semites?

The CJN article attributes to Elizabeth May the following comments:
We are not a party that condones BDS. We would never tolerate anybody in our party who violates our core values, who are anti-Semitic.
Assuming she spoke these words, Elizabeth May appears to have implied to the CJN that supporters of BDS – a movement endorsed by progressive Jewish groups around the world, including Independent Jewish Voices Canada and Jewish Voice for Peace – are anti-Semites.
Not even the Canadian Parliament’s anti-BDS resolution, adopted in February 2016, went so far as to accuse BDS supporters of being anti-Semites.
Notably, Elizabeth May was absent from Parliament when the vote on Parliament’s anti-BDS resolution was held.
By contrast, current NDP leader Jagmeet Singh (whose unwillingness to endorse sanctions on Israel I have previously discussed) spoke vigorously against a similar resolution brought forward in Ontario’s legislature when he was an Ontario MPP.

Did Elizabeth May Expel Me From The Green Party Of Canada?

The CJN reported that Elizabeth May expelled me from the Green Party.
Screen Shot 2019-05-14 at 1.49.43 PMThat too is false.
In September 2016, Elizabeth May did expel me from the Green Party shadow cabinet after I refused her demand that I apologize to B.C. Green Party leader Andrew Weaver for responding critically to his attacks on BDS supporters.
May did not, however, expel me from the party, nor has she the authority to do so. Under the party’s by-laws, only the Federal Council or the membership can expel a member.
I remained a member of the Green Party until May 2017, at which time I voluntarily terminated my membership.
I did so because I could no longer support a party led by Elizabeth May.

What Did Elizabeth May Actually Say To The CJN?

As a visible supporter of the Palestinian cause, I have learned that pro-Israel media organizations like CJN have a distinct tendency to treat Palestinian solidarity activists unfairly, even viciously.
That is why I refrained from commenting publicly on the CJN article before affording to Elizabeth May an opportunity to correct any misreporting of her comments by staff reporter Paul Lungen.
On May 11 (the day after the CJN article first appeared), I sent an email to Elizabeth May in which I forcefully complained of the falsehoods appearing in the CJN article.

Following my complaint to May, the Green Party sent this corrective letter to CJN:

Screen Shot 2019-05-14 at 2.24.23 PMIn response to the Green Party’s letter, CJN has modified its statement about my status within the party. The modified May 10 article now tersely states:
Screen Shot 2019-05-14 at 2.25.58 PMAs far as I can tell, there has been no other significant modification to the CJN article, and why would there be? The letter from the Green Party to CJN points to no other errors in reporting.
And this raises a critical question: if Elizabeth May did not make the other comments that Paul Lungen has attributed to her, then why has she not attempted to correct those statements?

It’s Time To Stop Appeasing The Zionist Lobby

Quite apart from questions of principle and integrity, we Palestinian solidarity activists ought to be deeply concerned about Elizabeth May’s strategy.
In a word, her strategy for dealing with the Zionist lobby is, and always has been, one of appeasement.
If the relentless attacks on Jeremy Corbyn have taught us anything, it is that the lobby is implacable. It will not tolerate even a hint of sympathy for Palestinians in our elected officials. And if an elected official or candidate for political office dares to broach the forbidden subject of sanctions on Israel, nothing will placate the lobby other than the utter destruction of that person’s reputation and credibility.
In the end, there is one and only one strategy that can succeed in defeating the Zionist lobby. That strategy is principled, peaceful and relentless resistance.
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The complete resolution on Israel / Palestine that was adopted by Green Party Members in December 2016 can be viewed here:
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Dan Palmer
Attaché de presse | Press Secretary
Parti vert du Canada
cellulaire : (613) 614 4916
dan.palmer@greenparty.ca


March 21, 2016

(OTTAWA) – The Green Party of Canada is pleased to announce the
appointment of Dimitri Lascaris to Justice Critic in the Party’s
Shadow Cabinet.

"It's a privilege to work with Elizabeth May and the other members of
the Green Party's shadow cabinet,” said Mr. Lascaris. “As a practising
lawyer, I have come to understand that Canada's justice system is
inaccessible to most Canadians, and fails to meet the needs of all but
the wealthiest. As Justice Critic, I will strive to ensure that the
government improves access to justice for all Canadians. I will also
work for the repeal of Canada's widely condemned anti-terror law (Bill
C-51). As the Green Party has recognized from the outset, Bill C-51
has placed at grave risk our most fundamental civil liberties, and it
must not be permitted to stand."

Elizabeth May, Leader of the Green Party of Canada, said: “It’s an
honour to welcome a seasoned lawyer like Dimitri to our Shadow
Cabinet. He brings a keen understanding of the Canadian justice system
and a conviction to ensure the legal system works for everyone,
regardless of societal barriers. In the short-term, I look forward to
working with Dimitri on repealing the many privacy violations
permitted in Bill C-51. Welcome, Dimitri!”

Mr. Lascaris assumes the role effective immediately.

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For more information or to arrange an interview, contact:

Dan Palmer
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Dimitri In the News


Dimitri has been quoted extensively in the media, including in the Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg News, the Toronto Star, The Globe & Mail, La Presse, CBC News and CTV News. Below is a selection of media reports in which he has been quoted.
Cannabis companies face a slew of lawsuits amid investor ire
Ottawa Citizen, February 18, 2020
Trudeau wraps trip, desperate to quell protests
RT America, February 17, 2020
Greens looking to grow as first leadership race in 14 years kicks off
The Hill Times, February 5, 2020
Race to replace Elizabeth May sees three candidates sidelined by $50,000 entry fee
National Post, February 3, 2020
Green Party’s leadership race rules, entry fee have some candidates balking
CTV News, February 3, 2020
Court rules on CannTrust class action conflict
Investment Executive, January 21, 2020
Israel s’invite chez les verts
Le Devoir, January 21, 2020
Les verts à la recherche d’un chef… et d’un renouveau
La Presse, December 22, 2019
A Quebec businesswoman and disenchanted ex-Liberal enter the race to replace Elizabeth May
Toronto Star, December 2, 2019
Justin Trudeau’s Blackface is Far from the Worst of his Offences
Truthdig, September 24, 2019
Dimitri Lascaris, porte-parole en justice, Parti vert du Québec
Parti vert du Québec, March 2019
Roger Waters: Militarism is Exacerbating the Climate Crisis
Real News Network, September 24, 2019
Sanctions on Iran ‘have nothing to do with human rights‘
RT America, November 6, 2018
Ruling on West Bank Settlement Wines Stirs Debate
Aljazeera, July 24, 2017
Sparks Fly at London City Hall as Protesters Clash During Anti-Islam Rally
Global News, July 22, 2017
Federal Court orders removal of ‘Product of Israel’ labels from West Bank wines
The Globe and Mail, July 21, 2019
Battle of the Battle: Palestinian Activists Uncork Fight Against Israeli Settlement Wines in Canada
The New Arab, July 18, 2017
Flip-Flop on West Bank Wine Decision Betrays Canadian Consumers
Huffington Post, July 14, 2017
Most Canadians Think Its “Reasonable” To Boycott Israel: Survey
Canada Talks Israel/Palestine, March 5, 2017
Majority of Canadians Support Israel Boycott, Sanctions
The New Arab, March 3, 2017
80% of Canadians Back Israel Boycott – Poll
Electronic Intifada, March 2, 2017
Poll: Canadians supportive of boycott and sanctions against Israel
Ricochet Media, March 2, 2017
Canadians at odds with their government on Israel
Rabble, February 17, 2017
Interview with Dimitri Lascaris from the Green Party of Canada
CKUT Radio, December 15, 2016
Greens confirm support of BDS goals in most significant pro-Palestinian victory in Canadian political history
Rabble, December 7, 2016
Dimitri Lascaris speaks to the Green Party’s Consensus Resolution on Palestine and Israel in Calgary
December 3, 2016
Canada’s Indigenous Peoples Weigh In on Global Warming at COP22
Truthdig, November 22, 2016
Vancouver Town Hall on the Green Party of Canada’s BDS Policy – Video 1
October 21, 2016
Vancouver Town Hall on the Green Party of Canada’s BDS Policy – Video 2
October 21, 2016
University of Ottawa Debate between Dimitri Lascaris and Jean-Luc Cooke on the Green Party of Canada’s BDS Policy – Part 1
October 13, 2016
University of Ottawa Debate between Dimitri Lascaris and Jean-Luc Cooke on the Green Party of Canada’s BDS Policy – Part 2
October 13, 2016
Why I Was Fired by Elizabeth May
Ricochet Media, September 14, 2016
Palestinian Lives Matter
Aljazeera, August 25, 2016
Canadian Green Party Votes to Support Boycott of Israel
Haaretz, August 8, 2016
Vote to Support Israel Boycott Campaign Divides Green Party
Globe and Mail, August 7, 2016
Class Action Lawyer Gives Up The Law To Fight Climate Change With Green Party
Globe and Mail, March 21, 2016
Green Party of Canada Welcomes Dimitri Lascaris as Justice Critic
March 21, 2016
High-Flying Litigator Powering Down
London Free Press, January 18, 2016
Siskinds Partner Dimitri Lascaris Named Green Party Candidate in London West
AM980 News, September 1, 2016
Local Praise, Federal Criticism
London Free Press, March 28, 2016
Shareholders protest new forum bylaws in Canada
Globe and Mail, December 28, 2015
Dimitri Lascaris Reduces Class-Action Workload
National Post, December 21, 2015
University of Toronto Advised to Sell Coal, Oil Assets in its Funds
Toronto Star, December 16, 2015
Court approves $32.5 million settlement with Sino-Forest underwriters
Investment Executive, November 12, 2015
Londoners to Protest Harper’s TPP
Blackburn News, October 15, 2015
Should Canadians Vote Strategically to Defeat Harper?
The Real News Network, October 8, 2015
As Conservative MP skips debates, London West becomes Liberal swing riding
National Observer, October 6, 2015
Interview with Political Analyst Dimitri Lascaris
Dialogos Media, October 1, 2015
London West Riding debate
September 29, 2015
London West Candidates Square Off In Second Of Four AM980 Debates
AM980 News, September 29, 2015
Ed Holder, Tory Candidate, Called Out For Skipping Election Debates
Huffington Post, September 28, 2015
London West Riding Full Debate at Oakridge Church
September 23, 2015
The View from Up North: Which are Ontario’s Best Regional Law Firms
Above the Law, September 9, 2015
London West Debate – Canadian Federal Elections 2015 – The Local Campaign
Rogers Television, September 1, 2015
Dimitri Lascaris: The Greek Crisis
AcTVism Munich, July 15, 2015
Ontario proposal to pay corporate whistleblowers up to $1.5M inadequate: Lawyer
Toronto Star, June 9, 2015
OSC’s proposed whistleblower policy is flawed because of limits on cash rewards, lawyer warns
National Post, June 9, 2015
Carriage decision fails to provide expected guidance
Law Times, June 1, 2015
Will Ontario’s whistleblower program blow holes in internal compliance systems?
Canadian Lawyer Magazine, April 27, 2015
Top Court tosses suit against Montreal drag firm Thera
The Globe and Mail, April 17, 2015
Ontario Securities Commission is testing mediation process to settle difficult cases
National Post, April 13, 2015
ASC files new charges against failed Poseidon Concepts
Calgary Herald, February 6, 2015
Banks Reach Settlement After Sino Stock Sale
Wall Street Journal, January 27, 2015
What happens when a foreign investor holds Chinese Bonds that default
Bloomberg News, January 20, 2015
London law firm Siskinds has history of scoring big wins for little guy in high-stakes battles
London Free Press, January 4, 2015
Nevsun Denies Accusations of Human Rights Abuses at Eritrea Mine
Bloomberg News, November 21, 2014
Eritreans file lawsuit against Canadian mining company for slave labour and crimes against humanity
Canadian Centre for International Justice, November 20, 2014
Canadian Bar Association undergoing major ‘rethink’
Law Times, November 17, 2014
Canadian Beekeepers Sue Neonicotinoid Makers Bayer, Syngenta for C$450 million
Bloomberg News, September 8, 2014
On CBC’s Exchange with Amanda Lang, Dimitri Lascaris discusses the beekeeper class action
CBC News, September 5, 2014
Beekeeper frustration led to class action on neonicotinoids
CBC News, September 5, 2014
Canada’s Nevsun defends Eritrea mining after damning report
CTV News, September 4, 2014
Bee Deaths at Centre of Lawsuit by Honey Producers
Toronto Star, September 3, 2014
Penn West Board faces allegations of stock option manipulation
The Globe and Mail, June 3, 2014
Livent decision could pave way for new suits against auditors
The Globe and Mail, April 7, 2014
U of T Must Divest From Fossil Fuels, Student Groups Say
The Varsity, March 2014
University of Toronto Divestment Lecture by Dimitri Lascaris
March 24, 2014
OSC to allow no-contest settlements in some cases
The Globe and Mail, March 11, 2014
U of T group wants university to divest from fossil fuel industry
Toronto MetroNews, January 31, 2014
London alarms raised over Quebec rail disaster
London Free Press, December 18, 2013
Bankruptcy protection can be silver lining for some securities class actions
National Post, November 20, 2013
Sorting out counsel fees in class action settlements
National Post, October 30, 2013
Canadian Business Magazine names Dimitri Lascaris As One of the “Power 50” of Canadian business
London Free Press, September 23, 2013
Supreme Court to rule on ‘market timing’ lawsuit
The Globe and Mail, September 11, 2013
Quebec Train Crash Taints Railroad CEO’s Legend Status 
Bloomberg News, July 12, 2013
Class action lawsuit against Canadian retailer for Bangladesh victims difficult, but not impossible
The Globe and Mail, April 29, 2013
Ontario Court approves $117 million settlement with Sino-Forest auditors
The Globe and Mail, March 20, 2013
Class Actions: Their Day in Court
National Magazine, March 2013
Gamblin’ Man: At the Tables, In the Court
London Free Press, March 1, 2013
OSC allegations against E&Y in Sino-Forest case could sharpen focus on gatekeepers
Canadian Lawyer Magazine, December 4, 2012
E&Y Settlement Sets Record for Auditors
The Globe and Mail, December 3, 2012
OSC accuses Ernst & Young as firm settles Sino-Forest class action suit 
National Post, December 3, 2012
High Class Action Awards Discourage Lawyers From Taking On Cases
National Post, November 29, 2012
Sino-Forest’s restructuring deal leaves shareholders cut out
National Post, October 2, 2012
Un recours collectif d’un milliard est autorisé contre SNC-Lavalin
Le Devoir, September 20, 2012
Judge Certifies $1 Billion Class Action Against SNC-Lavalin
CBC News, September 20, 2012
The Top 25 Most Influential
Canadian Lawyer, August 6, 2012
Outcome of Look legal bills case could have wider ramifications: Lascaris
National Post, August 2, 2012
Libor to JP Morgan, Enron to Bernie Madoff: Counting the costs of a world of scandal
The Toronto Star, July 13, 2012
Fallout from LIBOR scandal likely to hit Canada’s financial industry
National Post, July 5, 2012
Dimitri Lascaris on the ‘travesty’ of dismissing the CIBC class action lawsuit
National Post, July 5, 2012
The risky business of investing in lawsuits
The Globe and Mail, June 26, 2012
SNC: le rôle du chef des finances remis en question
La Presse, April 12, 2012
SNC-Lavalin risque d’autres ennuis judiciaires
La Presse, March 17, 2012
Lawyers Are Looking To Canada For Shareholder Litigation
Wall Street Journal, February 27, 2012
Class Actions: Taking up the low take-up rate for settlements
National Post, December 8, 2011
Siskinds and Sutts Storsberg square off in Armtec carriage motion
National Post, November 21, 2011
Pension funds sue Sino-Forest for $6.5 billion
Toronto Star, August 31, 2011
Baffinland ex-shareholders launch suit
CBC News, April 20, 2011
Investor Justice to the Max
Canadian Business, April 11, 2011
Whistleblower Debate: Speak Truth to Power
Financial Post, March 4, 2011
BMO faces sanctions over FMF debacle
National Post, November 9, 2010
Ex-Card Shark Dimitri Lascaris Bets on Canadian Class Actions
American Lawyer, May 5, 2010
Former Card Shark Now Fights For Shareholders
The Globe and Mail, May 4, 2010
Investors may pay stiff price for Manulife’s pride
Toronto Star, June 23, 2009
Ontario Law Firm Shoots for $550 Million Class Action Against AIG
American Lawyer, November 19, 2008
The U.S. Election: Barack’s Canucks, the sequel
Ottawa Citizen, November 9, 2008
Dimitri Lascaris and Siskinds Leading the Way in Canada
Securities Docket, September 14, 2008
The buck stops where?
Canadian Lawyer, January 11, 2008
Manipulation ‘serious problem’ – Canada rife with options backdating, lawyers conclude
National Post, September 19, 2007
RIM trips on offering options to employees
The Globe and Mail, March 6, 2007
Investor confronts RIM on options probe
The Globe and Mail, December 6, 2006
RIM’s Review Causes Unrest
The Street, December 5, 2006
FMF’s Shareholders Garner C$28 Million Settlement
Law 360, November 29, 2006
FMF Saga Moves to Next Chapter
National Post, May 29, 2006

 

Supreme court to rule on mutual fund ‘market timing’ lawsuit


The future of a class-action lawsuit targeting mutual fund managers for a "market timing" scheme that allegedly cost ordinary investors hundreds of millions of dollars will be decided by the Supreme Court of Canada on Thursday.

At issue is whether the aggrieved investors had the right to launch a class action against the mutual fund companies, even though the defendants had already settled allegations over the issue with the Ontario Securities Commission and agreed to pay back $205.6-million.

In 2010, Ontario Superior Court Justice Paul Perell initially refused to give the class-action lawsuit a green light, siding with arguments from the defendants who argued that the OSC proceedings were a "preferable procedure" to a class action. But two subsequent appeal rulings sided with the investors, who claim the compensation falls far short of their real losses.

Some lawyers watching for the decision say it could have major ramifications for the growing area of securities class actions, since most such lawsuits by investors seeking their money back are launched parallel to action by securities regulators.

The market timing case dates back to a 2003 OSC probe of five large mutual fund managers. Market timing, which is legal, allows sophisticated investors to take advantage of the way mutual funds are priced. Unlike stocks, the value of a mutual fund is set just once a day, at 4 p.m. Eastern Time. 

Traders can use this fact to move in and out of funds based on, for example, overseas market activity that has rendered the current pegged value of a fund out of date.

In settlements with the OSC in 2004 and 2005, AIC Ltd., CI Mutual Funds Inc., Franklin Templeton Investments Ltd., AGF Investments Inc., and IG Investment Management Ltd., acknowledged, without admitting civil liability, that they had allowed certain investors to engage in market timing in a way that harmed long-term investors, and agreed to pay $205.6-million in compensation. In 2009, class actions on behalf of the funds' unit-holders were launched against the fund managers, with plaintiffs arguing that their losses from market-timing could be as high as $800-million.

The current appeal before the Supreme Court involves just two of the defendants, AIC and CI Mutual Funds Inc., as the others have settled.

Lawyer Brian Radnoff of Lerners LLP said that securities cases weren't the only type of class actions that could be affected by the ruling. In other class-action cases, he said, defence lawyers often argue that regulators, not class-action plaintiffs, should be holding companies to account for faulty or dangerous products, false advertising or price-fixing schemes.

Mr. Radnoff, who is not involved in the case, said he believed restoring the initial decision barring the investors' class action would "significantly reduce" the growing number of securities class actions filed in Ontario.

"It would be a significant problem, for investors and for these type of class actions," said Mr. Radnoff in an interview.
\
But Dimitri Lascaris, a litigator who files many securities class actions against companies on behalf of investors, but is not involved in this case, disagrees.

Mr. Lascaris, a partner with Siskinds LLP in London, Ont., says Canadian securities regulators rarely seek to force defendants to actually pay back investors. A ruling barring class actions in cases when the regulator did so would have little effect, short of a "sea change" in enforcement practices, he said.

"Historically, rightly or wrongly, securities regulators have in very few instances sought to recover compensation for investors," Mr. Lascaris explained. "The market timing case is very unusual for that reason."

Lawyer Andrew Gray of Torys LLP, who does defence work on class actions and OSC cases but is not involved in this case, said he hoped the Supreme Court would restore the initial ruling blocking the class action.

That would encourage companies to settle allegations with securities regulators more quickly and pay back investors, he said, rather than worrying about their double exposure in a class-action: "If there was a way to wrap up all of your issues with the regulator quickly, in some cases that's probably net-net the best outcome for everyone."









-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 4:58 PM
To: dimitri.lascaris@siskinds.com
Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Subject: Attn Dimitri Lascaris Perhaps we should talk ASAP? My # is 902 800 0369

http://www.votedimitri.ca/

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:53:25 -0400
Subject: Attn Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson Re My contacts with Iceland
and my lawsuit in the Federal Court of Canada
To: sdg@althingi.is, einarg@althingi.is, adalheidura@althingi.is,
reykjavik@piratar.is, klm@althingi.is, thorunne@althingi.is,
valgerdurg@althingi.is, sjs@althingi.is, thorsteinns@althingi.is,
bjorto@althingi.is, karlg@althingi.is, netfrett@mbl.is,
news@icenews.is
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, astah@althingi.is,
helgihrafn@althingi.is, birgittaj@althingi.is

You Pirates must remember me now Birgitta Jónsdóttir? .

http://www.icenews.is/2016/02/18/the-pirates-in-iceland-land-a-hoy/#ixzz42EiXNs3s

"PM and chairman of the Progressive Party Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlausson
and Birgitta Jónsdóttir of the Pirate Party have engaged in fierce
disputes this passing week, brewing grey silver as the Icelandic
saying goes. Mr. Gunnlaugson mocking the Pirates in his speeches,
accusing them of having no clear objective or vision and Mrs
Jónsdóttir in turn stating that she feels ashamed having him in the
PM´s office and is counting the days until he is out of office."

IceNews
Faxafen 5
108 Reykjavik
Iceland
IS (+354) 540 9500
UK (+44) (0)20 3239 2464
USA (+1) (347) 767-6595

#Icenews http://www.icenews.is/about/#ixzz42Ekj6oEs


http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/05/yo-birgitta-who-is-more-of-crook-julian.html

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html

http://www.icenews.is/2016/02/18/the-pirates-in-iceland-land-a-hoy/#axzz42Ei9RUl8


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:34:40 -0300
Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
To: frank.pingue@thomsonreuters.com,
johanna.sigurdardottir@fel.stjr.is, postur@for.stjr.is, aih@cbc.ca,
Milliken.P@parl.gc.ca, sjs@althingi.is, emb.ottawa@mfa.is,
rmellish@pattersonlaw.ca, irisbirgisdottir@yahoo.ca,
grant.mccool@thomsonreuters.com, juan.lagorio@thomsonreuters.com,
"Robert. Jones"Robert.Jones@cbc.ca, marie@mariemorneau.com,
dfranklin@franklinlegal.com, egilla@althingi.is,
william.turner@exsultate.ca, klm@althingi.is, mail@fjr.stjr.is,
Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca, wendy.williams@landsbanki.is,
cdhowe@cdhowe.org, desparois.sylviane@fcac.gc.ca, plee@stu.ca,
jonina.s.larusdottir@ivr.stjr.is, fyrirspurn@fme.is, audur@audur.is,
fme@fme.is, info@landsbanki.is, sedlabanki@sedlabanki.is, tif@tif.is
Cc: rfowlo@comcast.net, jmullen@townofmilton.org, webo@xplornet.com,
t.j.burke@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, Dan Fitzgerald danf@danf.net,
"spinks08@hotmail.com"spinks08@hotmail.com, gypsy-blog
gypsy-blog@hotmail.com, "nb. premier"nb.premier@gmail.com, nbpolitico
nbpolitico@gmail.com>, "bruce.fitch"bruce.fitch@gnb.ca, "bruce.alec"
bruce.alec@gmail.com

I know that the Yankee law enforcement people are either as dumb as
posts or pure evil. There appears to be few exceptions. The ethical
Ms. Olson is my favourite klady today. Does anyone speaking or acting
in the best interests of the decent folks in Iceland understand my
sincerity and her Integrity YET?

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

http://www.althingi.is/altext/cv/en/?ksfaerslunr=144

Parliamentary career

    Member of Althingi for the Reykjavík North Constituency 2009-2013
and for the Northeast Contstituency since 2013.

Earlier committees

    Member of the Foreign Affairs Committee 2009-2013.
    Member of the Foreign Affairs Committee's Working Group on
European Affairs 2010-2013.
    Member of the Icelandic delegation to the EFTA and EEA
Parliamentary Committees 2009-2013.
    Member of the EU-Iceland joint Parliamentary Committee 2010-2013.

Ministerial Career

    Minister of Justice 2014.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:16:28 +0000
Subject: Re: Re My contacts with Iceland and my lawsuit in the Federal
Court of Canada
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:14:52 -0400
Subject: Re My contacts with Iceland and my lawsuit in the Federal
Court of Canada
To: oddur.thorri.vidarsson@for.is, sigurdur.o.gudleifsson@for.is,
una.bjork.omarsdottir@for.is, sif.gudjonsdottir@for.is,
gudmundur.orn.gudjonsson@for.is
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, postur@for.is

https://eng.forsaetisraduneyti.is/ministry/e-mail-adresses/

Prime Minister's Office
Stjornarradshusinu vid Laekjartorg
101 Reykjavik - Iceland
Tel (+354) 545 8400
Fax (+354) 562 4014
E-Mail postur@for.is


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 09:49:29 -0400
Subject: Attn Michael Petrou Re War in the Middle East and my lawsuit
in Federal Court etc I just sent you a Tweet and I tried to your cell
(613 291-8505) with no voicemail service Now you have an email
To: michael.petrou@hotmail.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

Good Day Sir

I am as seious as a heartattack and this link should at least prove to
the docket in Federal Court exists.

http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T

Below this note to you is a forward of an emial I sent on Friday night
with some attachments as well

I may call your home number later this morning. I believe this may be
your home phone number but I am reluctant to use it because I don't
wish to involve your family in my concerns.

Michael Petrou
3 Wigston Pvt
Ottawa, ON, K1Y 1K9
613-729-4529

I know it is Sunday morning and that you are a young man with a young
family so I will not try to take up too much of your precious family
time but your work and your recent job loss are speaking volumes to me
in that you just may be the writer I have been looking for for many
years.

I am rather busy researching and writing an important motion for the
Federal Court of Appeal that I must file ASAP and two other lawsuits
at the same time. However I would gladly pause and explain things to
you in grest detail. Rest assued that the PDF files hereto attached
are just the tip of a very malevolent Iceberg. Please notice the
General Counsel of BCE had her legal dept print my legal documents in
2004 and it took them 4 days or so to print them and five years later
CBC's legal dept want them as well. Trust that I have a lot more now.

----- Original Message -----
From: martine.turcotte@bell.ca
To: motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
Cc: bcecomms@bce.ca ; W-Five@ctv.ca
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: I am curious

Mr. Amos, I confirm that I have received your documentation. There is
no need to send us a hard copy. As you have said yourself, the
documentation is very voluminous and after 3 days, we are still in the
process of printing it. I have asked one of my lawyers to review it
in my absence and report back to me upon my return in the office. We
will then provide you with a reply.

Martine Turcotte
Chief Legal Officer / Chef principal du service juridique
BCE Inc. / Bell Canada
1000 de La Gauchetière ouest, bureau 3700
Montréal (Qc) H3B 4Y7

Tel: (514) 870-4637
Fax: (514) 870-4877
email: martine.turcotte@bell.ca

Executive Assistant / Assistante à la haute direction: Diane Valade
Tel: (514) 870-4638
email: diane.valade@bell.ca




----- Original Message -----
From: Edith Cody-Rice <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:53:07 -0500
Subject: Calls and E-mails to CBC
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Cc: Rob Renaud <Rob.Renaud@cbc.ca>

Dear Mr. Amos:

CBC personnel have contacted me concerning your calls and e-mails to
them. As you are threatening legal action, would you kindly direct any
further calls or correspondence to me. Other CBC personnel will not
respond further to your correspondence or calls.


Edith Cody-Rice
Senior Legal Counsel
Premier Conseiller juridique
CBC/Radio-Canada
181 Queen Street, Ottawa, Ontario K1P 1K9
Postal Address: P.O. Box 3220, Station C, Ottawa K1Y 1E4
Tel: (613) 288-6164
Cell: (613) 720-5185
Fax/ Télécopieur (613) 288-6279

IMPORTANT NOTICE
This communication is subject to solicitor/client privilege and
contains confidential information intended only for the person(s) to
whom it is addressed. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, other
distribution of this communication
or taking any action on its contents is strictly prohibited. If you
have received this message in error, please notify us immediately and
delete this message without reading, copying or forwarding it to
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intéressant uniquement leur destinataire. Il est interdit de
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avertir immédiatement et le supprimer en évitant de le lire, de le
copier ou de le transmettre à qui que ce soit.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 22:08:49 -0400
Subject: Fwd: I call the Boyz and Girlz from Brazil and Iceland camped
in Ottawa, Washington and the Big Apple and the very strange EFF
people in San Francisco AGAIN These people tease me and deny the
obvious We both know WHY EH Birgitta?
To: securedrop@freedom.press, gopublic <gopublic@cbc.ca>,
Whistleblower <Whistleblower@ctv.ca>, whistle <whistle@fsa.gov.uk>,
whistleblower <whistleblower@finra.org>, WhistleblowerProtection
< WhistleblowerProtection@tigta.treas.gov>, birgittaj
< birgittaj@althingi.is>, "Biage.Carrese"
< Biage.Carrese@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: trevor@freedom.press
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 18:00:08 -0800
Subject: Autoreply: Out of office until Monday March 7th
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

I am currently traveling with little or no access to email until
Monday, March 7th.

If you have any time-sensitive SecureDrop questions, please email
securedrop@freedom.press.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 02:02:26 +0000
Subject: Re: I call the Boyz and Girlz from Brazil and Iceland camped
in Ottawa, Washington and the Big Apple and the very strange EFF
people in San Francisco AGAIN These people tease me and deny the
obvious We both know WHY EH Birgitta?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið  / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið  / Prime Minister's Office



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Póstur IRR <postur@irr.is>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 02:02:27 +0000
Subject: Re: I call the Boyz and Girlz from Brazil and Iceland camped
in Ottawa, Washington and the Big Apple and the very strange EFF
people in San Francisco AGAIN These people tease me and deny the
obvious We both know WHY EH Birgitta?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið. / Your request has been received.

Kveðja / Best regards
Innanríkisráðuneytið / Ministry of the Interior


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 21:59:33 -0400
Subject: I call the Boyz and Girlz from Brazil and Iceland camped in
Ottawa, Washington and the Big Apple and the very strange EFF people
in San Francisco AGAIN These people tease me and deny the obvious We
both know WHY EH Birgitta?
To: presidencia@inpi.gov.br, inpipres@inpi.gov.br,
coutinho@inpi.gov.br, brasemb.ottawa@itamaraty.gov.br,
bethpp@inpi.gov.br, cindy <cindy@eff.org>, icemb.ottawa@utn.stjr.is,
"icecon.ny"<icecon.ny@utn.stjr.is>, cg.novayork@itamaraty.gov.br,
"Greta.Bossenmaier"<Greta.Bossenmaier@cse-cst.gc.ca>, "bob.paulson"
< bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Jonathan.Vance"
< Jonathan.Vance@forces.gc.ca>, icemb.wash@utn.stjr.is,
info@samaracanada.com, Michael.MacMillan@blueantmedia.ca,
raok@bennettjones.com, michael.roberts@asiapacific.ca,
Lon.Povich@state.ma.us, petere.scott@bmo.com, kevin.lynch@bmo.com,
george.cooper@ukings.ca, postur@for.is, postur@irr.is,
grapevine@grapevine.is, postur@fjr.stjr.is, info@farris.com,
randerson@farris.com, danny@eff.org, pde@eff.org, dm@eff.org,
trevor@freedom.press, birgittaj <birgittaj@althingi.is>, birgittajoy
< birgittajoy@gmail.com>, company@semalt.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

http://www.iceland.is/iceland-abroad/ca/about-the-embassy

Embassy of Iceland Ottawa
360 Albert Street, Suite 710
Ottawa, ON K1R 7X7
Tel: +1 (613) 482 1944
Fax: +1 (613) 482 1945
icemb.ottawa@utn.stjr.is

Embassy of Iceland
Washington D.C.
House of Sweden, 2900 K Street N.W. #509
Washington DC 20007-1704
Tel.: +1 (202) 265 6653
Fax: +1 (202) 265 6656
icemb.wash@utn.stjr.is

Trade Section:
Icelandic Office
800 Third Avenue, 36th floor
New York, NY 10022
Tel: 1-212-593-2700
Fax: 1-212-593-6269
E-mail: icecon.ny@utn.stjr.is

Its been years since I called the Embassy of Iceland in Ottawa or the
wackos within EFF in San Franisco but I did email the profound liar
Cindy Cohen weeks before I talked to the Boyz from Brazil and her own
email response found way down below proves it for me EH Trevor? (Do
you dudes and Laura Poitrasr emember me now?)

https://www.eff.org/about/staff

https://freedom.press/about/board


https://freedom.press/about/board-staff/trevor-timm

Phone:
(415)-767-5566 ext. 10


I thought the Icelanders may have replaced the snotty people i talked
to years ago and perhaps somebody ethical may take and interest in my
lawsuit now before the Federal Court in Canada. No such luck they
still have the same bunch of nasty liars from six years ago and the
worst ones of all are Birgitta's Yankee lady lawyer pal Cindy Baby and
the women who work as diplomats for Iceland.

Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson should go figure why that is and what I
am up to now after he reads the emails below REAL SLOW. If I have no
problem suing the Queen of England his people are very dumb to invite
me to sue his little country as well N'esy Mr Prime Minister Trudeau
"The Younger"

Sunday, 18 May 2014
Yo Birgitta Who is more of a crook Julian Assange, the gay lawyer Glen
Greenwald, the equally sneaky NDP lawyer David Eby in BC or your
mindless Prime Ministers of Iceland

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/05/yo-birgitta-who-is-more-of-crook-julian.html

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: postur@for.is
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 12:42:06 +0000
Subject: Re: Re Snowdon Assangethe DHS the RCM Pthe CBC, Brazil
Iceland, the Guardian Pierre Omidyar, Glen Greenwald and all the other
bigtime bullshitters
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: postur@for.is
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 02:03:05 +0000
Subject: Re: [Mogulegur Ruslpostur] Yo Birgitta Who is more of a crook
Julian Assange, the gay lawyer Glen Greenwald, the equally sneaky NDP
lawyer David Eby in BC or your mindless Prime Ministers of Iceland
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received

Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: postur@irr.is
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 02:03:06 +0000
Subject: Re: [Mogulegur Ruslpostur] Yo Birgitta Who is more of a crook
Julian Assange, the gay lawyer Glen Greenwald, the equally sneaky NDP
lawyer David Eby in BC or your mindless Prime Ministers of Iceland
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið. / Your request has been received.

Kveðja / Best regards
Innanríkisráðuneytið / Ministry of the Interior


From: Birgitta Jonsdottir
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 07:14:02 +0000
Subject: Re: Bon Soir Birgitta according to my records this is the
first email I ever sent you
To: David Amos

dear Dave
i have got your email and will read through the links as soon as i
find some time keep up the good fight in the meantime

thank you for bearing with me
i am literary drowning in requests to look into all sorts of matters
and at the same time working 150% work at the parliament and
the creation of a political movement and being a responsible parent:)
plus all the matters in relation to immi

with oceans of joy
birgitta

Better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are
not.

Andre Gide

Birgitta Jonsdottir
Birkimelur 8, 107 Reykjavik, Iceland, tel: 354 692 8884
http://this.is/birgitta– http://joyb.blogspot.com -
http://www.facebook.com/birgitta.jonsdottir

>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 01:58:58 -0300
>>> Subject: RE: The Reykjavík Grapevine Al Jazeera Iceland WikiLeaks
>>> and
>>> British Banksters etc
>>> To: grapevine@grapevine.is,
>>> Cc: editor@wikileaks.org,
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r879_ZTqaY8
>>>
>>> From: "Julian Assange)"editor@wikileaks.org
>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:15 PM
>>> Subject: Al Jazeera on Iceland's plan for a press safe haven
>>>
>>> FYI: Al-Jazeera's take on Iceland's proposed media safe haven
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbGiPjIE1pE
>>>
>>> More info http://immi.is/
>>>
>>> Julian Assange Editor WikiLeaks http://wikileaks.org/
>>>
>>> From: "David Amos"david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>> To: "Julian Assange)"editor@wikileaks.org
>>> Cc: "Dan Fitzgerald"danf@danf.net; "Byrne. G"Byrne.G@parl.gc.ca
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 8:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Al Jazeera on Iceland's new plan Thanx Here is
>>> something
>>> about Iceland and Banksters Al Jazeera would enjoy
>>>
>>> Checkout this old pdf file from 2005 at about page two or three
>>>
>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/4304560/Speaker-Iceland-etc
>>>
>>> Then read on and chuckle
>>>
>>> From: postur@fjr.stjr.is
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009
>>> Subject: Re: RE: Iceland and Bankers etc I must ask the obvious
>>> question. Why have you people ignored me for three years?
>>> To: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Dear David Amos
>>>
>>> Unfortunately there has been a considerable delay in responding to
>>> incoming letters due to heavy workload and many inquiries to our
>>> office.
>>>
>>> We appreciate the issue raised in your letter. We have set up a web
>>> site www.iceland.org where we have gathered various practical
>>> information regarding the economic crisis in Iceland.
>>>
>>> Greetings from the Ministry of Finance.
>>>
>>> Tilvísun í mál: FJR08100024
>>>
>>> From: postur@for.stjr.is
>>> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008
>>> Subject: Regarding your enquiry to the Prime Ministry of Iceland
>>> To: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>
>>> Your enquiry has been received by the Prime Ministry of Iceland and
>>> waits attendance.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008
>>> Subject: I just called to remind the Speaker, the Bankers and the
>>> Icelanders that I still exist EH Mrs Mrechant, Bob Rae and Iggy?
>>> To: Milliken.P@parl.gc.ca, sjs@althingi.is, emb.ottawa@mfa.is,
>>> rmellish@pattersonlaw.ca, irisbirgisdottir@yahoo.ca,
>>> marie@mariemorneau.com, dfranklin@franklinlegal.com,
>>> egilla@althingi.is, william.turner@exsultate.ca
>>> Cc: Rae.B@parl.gc.ca, Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca, lebrem@sen.parl.gc.ca,
>>> merchp@sen.parl.gc.ca, coolsa@sen.parl.gc.ca, olived@sen.parl.gc.ca
>>>
>>> All of you should review the documents and CD that came with this
>>> letter ASAP EH?
>>>
>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
>>>
>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/4304560/Speaker-Iceland-etc
>>>
>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/5352095/Tony-Merchant-and-Yankees
>>>
>>> Perhaps Geir Haarde and Steingrimur Sigfusson should call me back
>>>
>>> Veritas Vincit
>>> David Raymond Amos

Clearly even Time Warner knows where to read about Mean Old Me versus
Iceland and Madoff etc

So does the far from Honourable local boy Kevin Lynch and all his pals

The Honorable Kevin G. Lynch, P.C., O.C., Vice-Chair, BMO Financial
Group - D3 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRU5Evv07VI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plQtVNCW9Tk

Proud Canadians should read his words to Yankees in 2002

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/230098/000113031902001603/m08476e18vk.htm

FYI Kevin Lynch works for the Chinese too

http://www.cnoocltd.com/col/col7331/index.html

https://www.bmo.com/home/about/banking/corporate-information/executive-bios/kevin-lynch

http://www.asiapacific.ca/about-us/board-directors-new

http://www.ukings.ca/chancellor

http://www.mapleleaffoods.com/investors-information/governance/board-mandate/

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html

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Embassy of Brazil Ottawa
450, Wilbrod Street
Ottawa, Ontario
K1N 6M8 - Canada
Phone: (613) 237.1090
            (613) 755.5160
Fax: (613) 237.6144
brasemb.ottawa@itamaraty.gov.br

Consulate General of Brazil in New York.
225 East 41st Street
New York, NY 10017-6927
Phone +1(917)777-7777
Fax +1(212)827-0225
cg.novayork@itamaraty.gov.br,

I see the Boyz from Brazil surfing here there and everywhere since I
called them again in January so I call their Embassies in Ottawa again
and they laugh at me???

The Boyz from Brazil hanging their hats Washington should recall this
voicemail EH?

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html

Tuesday, 8 October 2013
Re Glen Greenwald and the Brazilian President Rousseff's indignant
tweets So Stevey Boy Harper your CSEC dudes and their NSA pals no
doubt know all about my conversation with the dudes from Brazil last
month Wheras the CBC and the Guardian etc want to know it all we
should share EH?

I can read the New YorkTimes just like everyone else. It ain't hard
telling that President, Dilma Rousseff could use a friend. Why she has
ignored me for years seems to tell me only one thing particilarly
after I had long talks with her Embassy in Washington in 2013 and in
Ottawa recently and had we discussed what I sent her government's
office within the UN byway of registered US Mail in August of 2005
(The documents hereto attached should prove that Icleand got the same
stuff Brazil did the year before byway of YOUR Embassy in Ottawa in
2006 EH Olaf or whatever your name truly is???)

Brazil’s President Rousseff, Facing Impeachment Effort, Is Deluged by
More Bad News By SIMON ROMEROMARCH 3, 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/04/world/americas/brazils-president-rousseff-facing-impeachment-effort-is-deluged-by-more-bad-news.html?_r=0

RIO DE JANEIRO — Just when it seems things cannot get any worse for
Brazil’s president, Dilma Rousseff, they do.

"An economic slowdown has become a brutal rout, with gross domestic
product shrinking 3.8 percent in 2015, the deepest plunge in 25 years,
according to government figures released Thursday."

I would have to say that if one ignores all the other issues about
political corruption the folks in Brazil at the very least could use
the services ao a whistleblower about the financial industry that is
the true cause of the economic hardshipt around the world. I offered
my help to Brazil first because they were the only ones in the UN to
ask for more info from me in 2005. After talking to the snobby dumb
bastard in Ottawa today who spoke for the people of Brazil I feel pity
for the ordinary folks in that country that pays his wages so that he
can live high off the hog in Canada with diplomatic immunity. I can't
help but wonder if Dilma Baby will even read this email but i know for
a fact I am seeing more folks from Bazil that any other country in the
world checking my work in the past month (excepting the USA and
Canada). Scroll down to see some proof of what I say is true


BTW Surfing in (Portuguese Brazil) is a bigtime tell and don't think
that you can hide your surfing byway of the punks in the Ukraine I
crossed paths with those not so clever geeks years ago. Many
governments us them. Notice soembody in Mexico whos surfs in
Portuguese used them today as well? DUHHH????

http://semalt.org/

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:27:22 -0400
Subject: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 I must say it rather hard
to talk to folks from Brazil as well EH
To: presidencia@inpi.gov.br, inpipres@inpi.gov.br,
coutinho@inpi.gov.br, brasemb.ottawa@itamaraty.gov.br,
bethpp@inpi.gov.br
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

http://www.wipo.int/members/en/contact.jsp?country_id=23

Ministry of Development, Industry and Foreign Trade (INPI)
Web site address http://www.inpi.gov.br

Rua São Bento 1
CEP 20090-010
Rio de Janeiro, RJ
Brazil
Telephone (55 21) 3037-4000

450, Wilbrod Street
Ottawa, Ontario
K1N 6M8 - Canada

Phone: (613) 237.1090
            (613) 755.5160

Fax: (613) 237.6144

brasemb.ottawa@itamaraty.gov.br

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Chisholm, Jill"<Jill.Chisholm@justice.gc.ca>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 19:43:52 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 For the
Public Record I just called the lawyers Duff Conacher and David Baker
and they paled dumb as usual
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for your message. I will be away from the office until
Monday, January 25, 2016 and will not be accessing email frequently
during this time.  Should you require assistance please contact
Jacqueline Fenton at (902) 426-6996.  Otherwise I will be pleased to
respond to your message upon my return.


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:43:48 -0400
Subject: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 For the Public Record I
just called the lawyers Duff Conacher and David Baker and they paled
dumb as usual
To: duff@goodorg.ca, dbaker@bakerlaw.ca, "bill.pentney"
< bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "jill.chisholm"
< jill.chisholm@justice.gc.ca>, "david.hansen"
< david.hansen@justice.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Moreau"
< Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "dean.buzza"
< dean.buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Michael.Wernick"
< Michael.Wernick@pco-bcp.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

Lets see if the Upper Canadian lawyers can understand an old voicemail
from Brazil and a Published email exchange EH Michael.Wernick???

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html

Duff Conacher, LL.B.
Director, GoodOrg.ca Consulting
416-546-3443
duff@goodorg.ca

David Baker B.A., LL.B., LL.M., L.S.M.
email: dbaker@bakerlaw.ca
phone: 416 533-0040, ext. 222


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:57:07 -0400
Subject: Well Greta.Bossenmaier the latest boss of the CSE can never
deny that all of the "Five Eyes" are well aware of me now N'esy Pas
Elizabeth May?
To: WhistleblowerProtection@tigta.treas.gov,
Paul.Samyn@freepress.mb.ca, "george.osborne.mp"
< george.osborne.mp@parliament.uk>, J.Key@ministers.govt.nz,
SpeakersOffice3@parliament.govt.nz, Andrew.Robb.MP@aph.gov.au,
"George.Soros"<George.Soros@opensocietyfoundations.org>,
"stephen.harper.a1"<stephen.harper.a1@parl.gc.ca>, "elizabeth.may"
< elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca>, "David.Coon"<David.Coon@gnb.ca>, gopublic
< gopublic@cbc.ca>, whistle <whistle@fsa.gov.uk>, washington field
< washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, whistleblower
< whistleblower@finra.org>, Whistleblower <Whistleblower@ctv.ca>,
crof@shaw.ca, "justin.ling"<justin.ling@vice.com>, editor@thetyee.ca,
Karine Fortin <info@ndp.ca>, "carolyn.bennett"
< carolyn.bennett@parl.gc.ca>, Doug@dougeyolfson.ca,
doug.eyolfson@parl.gc.ca, fpcity@freepress.mb.ca,
w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca, "Paul.Lynch"<Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>,
"Marianne.Ryan"<Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, sunrayzulu
< sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, "john.green"
< john.green@gnb.ca>, chiefape <chiefape@gmail.com>,
Catherine.Harrop@cbc.ca, "redmond.shannon"<redmond.shannon@cbc.ca>,
Joe Friday <Friday.Joe@psic-ispc.gc.ca>, loyalistlaw@gmail.com,
"steve.roberge"<steve.roberge@gnb.ca>, "robert.stoney"
< robert.stoney@gnb.ca>, "Leanne.Fitch"<Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>,
tj@burkelaw.ca, "lou.lafleur"<lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca>,
jeddy@coxandpalmer.com, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre
< andre@jafaust.com>, "greg.byrne"<greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, paulzed@zed.ca,
smay@coxandpalmer.com, nbpc <nbpc@gnb.ca>, "Greta.Bossenmaier"
< Greta.Bossenmaier@cse-cst.gc.ca>, "Jonathan.Vance"
< Jonathan.Vance@forces.gc.ca>, "jon.gerrard"
< jon.gerrard@leg.gov.mb.ca>, Karen.Kraushaar@tigta.treas.gov,
"roger.l.brown"<roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Wayne.Gallant"
< Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: halifaxmedia@state.gov, ACS@state.gov, consularh@state.gov, David
Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, j.russell.george@tigta.treas.gov,
Complaints@tigta.treas.gov, TIGTAcommunications
< TIGTAcommunications@tigta.treas.gov>, David.barnes@tigta.treas.gov

Afte all US Ambassador Bruce Heyman and  US Consul General Steven
Giegerich cannot deny that the CBC and a former US Ambassador got
exactly the same pile of document from Mean Old Me just in time for my
birthday in July of 2002 CORRECT? Berfore Anyone tries to deny it
perhaps you should review page 14 of the pdf hereto attached then read
all the rest rather closely N'esy Pas?

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

http://halifax.usconsulate.gov/news_events/2015/halifax-welcomes-new-consul-general.html

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Please note questions will not receive a response if the answer is on
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Robb, Andrew (MP)"<Andrew.Robb.MP@aph.gov.au>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:34:24 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re J. Russell George the US Treasury
Inspector General for Tax Administration and his response to Federal
Court File No: T-1557-15
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for taking the time to contact me.

This is an automatically generated reply so that you know that your
email has arrived.

As you will appreciate given the large number of emails received each
day, a reply cannot be sent immediately, nor can a reply be sent to
every email received.

I will however read your correspondence.

I prioritise emails from my constituents and those relating to my
trade, investment and tourism portfolio.

If your email relates to my responsibilities as Minister for Trade and
Investment, I will consider your correspondence and respond if
appropriate.

If your email is part of an automatically generated campaign, I will
note your views.

For those interested, there is a significant amount of useful facts
regarding the China FTA and Trans Pacific Partnership on my
Department’s website:

http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/chafta/Pages/australia-china-fta.aspx

and

http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/tpp/Pages/trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-tpp.aspx


In the meantime, you may be interested in completing my community
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Yours sincerely,
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "J Key (MIN)"<J.Key@ministers.govt.nz>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:35:08 +0000
Subject: Thank you for your email
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

On behalf of the Prime Minister, Rt Hon John Key, thank you for your email.

Please note that although email increases the speed of delivery, it
may not be possible to provide you with the rapid response users of
email may anticipate.

The fact that you have taken the time to write is appreciated.  You
can be assured that your views will be noted.


Yours sincerely
The Office of the Prime Minister

________________________________



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "OSBORNE, George"<george.osborne.mp@parliament.uk>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:34:35 +0000
Subject: Thank you for your e-mail
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>



Rt Hon George Osborne MP

Thank you for your email. This is an automated response.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Elizabeth.May@parl.gc.ca
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:34:22 +0000
Subject: Thank you for contacting the Office of Elizabeth May, O.C., M.P
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for contacting me. This response is to assure you that your
message has been received. I welcome and appreciate receiving comments
and questions from constituents.

I receive a much larger volume of correspondence (postal and email)
than the average MP. My office replied to over 400,000 pieces of
correspondence 2014. All emails are reviewed on a regular basis,
however due to the high volume of emails my office receives, I may not
be able to respond personally to each one.

My constituents in Saanich-Gulf Islands are my highest priority. If
you are a constituent, please email
elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca<mailto:elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca>. To
help me serve you better, please ensure that your email includes your
full name and street address with your postal code.

For meeting requests and invitations, please email
requests@greenparty.carequests@greenparty.ca>.

Thank you once again for contacting me.

Elizabeth May, O.C., M.P.
Member of Parliament for Saanich-Gulf Islands
Leader of the Green Party of Canada

--

Je vous remercie d'avoir communiqué avec moi. La présente réponse vous
confirme que votre message a été reçu. Les questions et les
commentaires des électeurs sont toujours les bienvenus.

Je reçois une correspondance (postale et électronique) beaucoup plus
abondante que le député type. Mon bureau a répondu à plus de 400 000
lettres en 2014. Tous les messages électroniques sont lus
régulièrement, mais, en raison de l'abondance des courriels reçus à
mon bureau, il se peut que je ne sois pas en mesure de répondre
personnellement à chacun d'entre eux.

Mes électeurs de Saanich-Gulf Islands passent en premier. Si vous êtes
un électeur, veuillez écrire à
elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca<mailto:elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca>.
Pour m'aider à mieux vous servir, veillez à ce que votre courriel
comporte votre nom complet, votre adresse municipale et votre code
postal.

Pour les demandes de rencontre et les invitations, veuillez écrire à
requests@greenparty.carequests@greenparty.ca>.

Je vous remercie encore d'avoir communiqué avec moi.

Elizabeth May, O.C.
Députée de Saanich-Gulf Islands
Chef du Parti vert du Canada


On 1/21/16, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> Methinks I will give the latest US Consul General, Steven Giegerich,
> lin my neck of the woods a call this morning to see who has a bigger
> file on each other and ask him the obvious question about J. Russell
> George..
>
> Obviously I heard Giegerich say he was talking to the RCMP in Fat Fred
> City just before I appeared in Federal Court. I bet when he said that
> that both the CBC and the US State Dept was wondering if my name came
> up EH Ast Com Roger Brown?
>
> https://player.fm/series/information-morning-fredericton-from-cbc-radio-new-brunswick-highlights/consul-general
>
> Whereas J. Russell George has afmitted knowledge of my concerns in
> writing several times perhaps he should blow the whistle himself
> before I sue him personally.
>
> Hereto attached are some of documents that are now before Federal
> Court right now.
>
> The text of my filings can be found here.
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>
> Your lawyers will have to query the docket to see the CROWN's filing
> as they contain an amazing amount of desperate bullshit that I could
> not possibly scan.
>
> This was what was said in the past month before the court during oral
> arguments pertaining to Federal Court File no T-1557-15
>
> Dec 14th
> https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>
> Jan 11th
> https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>
>
> Meet the IG:  J. Russell George this is what brags about himself
>
> https://www.treasury.gov/tigta/about_ig.shtml
>
> this is some of what I wrote about J. Russell George as his
> Conserative cohorts three years ago
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/06/j-russell-george-of-irs-versus-prez.html
>
> Monday, 3 June 2013
> J. Russell George of the IRS versus Prez Obama
>
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/9092510/Chicago
>
> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/5-years-waiting-on-bank-fraud-payout.html
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:27:53 -0300
> Subject: Re Teddy Baby Olson was on Fox News today yapping about
> Presidential enemies list as he represents the crooks in Koch
> Industries??? If anyone should know about such things it is Olson
> after all he assisted Ashcroft and Bush against me
> To: pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, Office@tigta.treas.gov, RBauer@perkinscoie.com,
> mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov, "Gilles.Moreau"
> < Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, ron.klain@revolution.com,
> dboies@bsfllp.com, tolson@gibsondunn.com, bginsberg@pattonboggs.com,
> "ed.pilkington"<ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>, news
> < news@thetelegraph.com.au>, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
> rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com, gregory.craig@skadden.com,
> Patrick.Fitzgerald@skadden.com
>
> Hey
>
> As Harper sits and bullshits his cohorts in the Council of Foreign
> Relations in the Big Apple today I bet he was listening to what was
> happening with Obama and the IRS and Holder and his DOJ minions
> in Washington.
>
> Hevery body and his dog knows Harper knew about my battles with the
> US Treasury and Justice Depts way back when he was the boss of the
> opposition in Canada's Parliament. Two simple files easily found on
> the Internet cannot be argued.
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/5-years-waiting-on-bank-fraud-payout.html
>
> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>
> FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Office of Chief Counsel, Treasury.
> Inspector General for Tax Administration, (202) 622-4068.
>
> When Teddy bitches about polticians using the IRS to attack their
> enemies because he knows it true because he helped Bush the IRS
> against me when Obama was just a State Senator . The proof was when I sent
> him
> the documents that came along with the letter found on page 13 of this
> old file Teddy Baby Olson quit as Solicitor General.
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>
> Harper and every body else knows It was no coincidence that I sent the
> lawyers Olson as Solicitior General, Ferguson as the co chair of the
> Federal Reserve Bank, and J Strom Thurmond Jr the youngest US
> Attorney the same pile of documents on April Fools Day 2004.
>
> The sad but terrible truth is that legions of cops, lawyers polticians
> and bureaucrats in Canada and the USA knew about the US Secret Service
> coming to my home after dark on April Fools Day 2003 bearing false
> allegations of a presidential threat and threatening to use their
> implied right to use exta ordinary rendition against me as a non
> citizen less than two weeks after the needless War in Iraq began and
> no WMD were ever found.
>
> You can bet dimes to dollars i called some Yankee Inspector Generals
> (starting with 202 622 4068) and reminded them that I am still alive
> and kicking and reminding the world of their malicious incompetence
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
> PS Below you can review some emails I sent you and your Yankee cohorts
> such asTeddy Baby Olson before Obama was reelected EH Harper? In truth
> I would rather settle in confidence with Obama then sue the Hell out
> of the CROWN and the Holy See Trust that the evil old Judge Bastarache
> has known why for a very long time.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> To: "Rob Talach"<rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
>
> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
> a lot to you
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> To:
> Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 7:43 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Re the IRS Tom 330-592-1848
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 19:25:43 -0300
> Subject: Re the IRS
> To: tom.zawistowski@ohiolibertycouncil.org
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> To: <stephen.m.cutler@jpmorgan.com>; <andrew.r.kosloff@jpmorgan.com>;
> < newsonline@bbc.co.uk>; <ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>;
> < Rupert.Murdoch@fox.com>
> Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>;
> < Charles.O'Donnell@gnb.ca>;
> < john.barthelmes@dos.nh.gov>; <sbloch@bcounsel.com>; "oig"<oig@sec.gov>
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:42 AM
> Subject: Fwd: I just called about the IRS etc I bet the former Yankee
> Attorney Generals Mukasey, Gonzales and Ashcroft remember me EH Mr Bauer
> and
> Mr Harper?
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:47:12 -0400
> Subject: You people can't say that I did not call and try to tell you
> stuff about Bernard Madoff and his pals
> To: dsheehan@bakerlaw.com, dspelfogel@bakerlaw.com,
> rbernard@bakerlaw.com, roxanne.taylor@accenture.com,
> daniel.prince@accenture.com, gary.a.morgenstern@accenture.com,
> david.straube@accenture.com, gurdip.s.sahota@accenture.com,
> mc@whistleblowers.org, gkachroo@mccarter.com
> Cc: oig oig@sec.gov
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/10975148/Providian
>
> FYI I called Andrew Kosloff of JP Morgan Chase (212-552-4672) and told
> him to remind his boss Stephen Cutler that i am still above ground and
> still Rasing Hell
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> Just Dave
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 21:00:02 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: I just called about the IRS etc I bet the former Yankee
> Attorney Generals Mukasey, Gonzales and Ashcroft remember me EH Mr
> Bauer and Mr Harper?
> To: cmitchell@foley.com, media@truethevote.org,
> mbmukase@debevoise.com, argonzales@wallerlaw.com,
> info@ashcroftgroupllc.com, ap@theprestongroup.org,
> info@mikesullivanforsenate.com
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, RBauer
> < RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>
>
> Now this was beyond ridiculous
>
> https://www.mikesullivanforsenate.com/
>
> http://www.truethevote.org/news/true-the-vote-files-suit-against-the-irs
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> To: <info@gomezforma.com>
> Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:24 PM
> Subject: I just called 617 249 4113 about Mr Gomez running for the Senate
>
>
> http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/04/supporters_of_republican_senat.html
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 21:00:02 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: I just called about the IRS etc I bet the former Yankee
> Attorney Generals Mukasey, Gonzales and Ashcroft remember me EH Mr
> Bauer and Mr Harper?
> To: cmitchell@foley.com, media@truethevote.org,
> mbmukase@debevoise.com, argonzales@wallerlaw.com,
> info@ashcroftgroupllc.com, ap@theprestongroup.org,
> info@mikesullivanforsenate.com
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, RBauer
> < RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>
>
> Now this was beyond ridiculous
>
> https://www.mikesullivanforsenate.com/
>
> http://www.truethevote.org/news/true-the-vote-files-suit-against-the-irs
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> To: <georgiateapartypatriots@gmail.com>; <dlightman@mcclatchydc.com>;
> < debbie0040@yahoo.com>; <KHall@mcclatchydc.com>;
> Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; <Ottawa@efc-canada.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:22 PM
> Subject: I just called about the IRS etc
>
>
> http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/16/3401235/irs-scandal-puts-the-caffeine.html
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/14/tea-party-irs_n_3272237.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012
>
> http://www.newsmax.com/US/tea-party-irs-apology/2013/05/13/id/504227
>
> Atlanta Tea Party Patriots
> This is the group for all of Atlanta Tea Party Patriots. While all the
> metro Tea Party Patriots group fall under the Atlanta Tea Party, we
> encourage each respective county to have their own group so you can
> get to know your fellow Tea Party Patriots in your area.
>
> Local Coordinators:
> Julianne Thompson ~ georgiateapartypatriots@gmail.com 404-798-4663
> Debbie Dooley ~ debbie0040@yahoo.com
> Jenny Beth Martin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> To: <v.tubin@uwinnipeg.ca>
> Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:53 PM
> Subject: Fwd: I just called AGAIN
>
>
> From: Dean Peachey <d.peachey@uwinnipeg.ca>
> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 16:51:45 -0500
> Subject: Re: I just called AGAIN (Out of office)
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> I will be working out of the country untiil Friday, May 24, with
> intermittent access to email, and may be delayed in responding to
> correspondence. If the matter is urgent, please contact Vanja Tubin
> at v.tubin@uwinnipeg.ca or 204-988-7105.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> To: <duff@goodorg.ca>; <dbaker@bakerlaw.ca>; "Tom.Mann"<Tom.Mann@gnb.ca>;
> ; "david"<david@fairwhistleblower.ca>;
> "allan.cutler"
> < allan.cutler@canadians4accountability.org>; <d.peachey@uwinnipeg.ca>;
> "Dion.Mario"<Dion.Mario@psic-ispc.gc.ca>; "toewsv1"<toewsv1@parl.gc.ca>
> Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; "Gilles.Blinn"
> < Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; <info@lift.to>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:50 PM
> Subject: I just called AGAIN
>
>
> http://democracywatch.ca/biographies/
>
> Duff Conacher, LL.B.
> Director, GoodOrg.ca Consulting
> 416-546-3443
> duff@goodorg.ca
>
> David Baker B.A., LL.B., LL.M., L.S.M.
> email: dbaker@bakerlaw.ca
> phone: 416 533-0040, ext. 222
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> To: <WMalley@perkinscoie.com>
> Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; "Fred.Wyshak"
> < Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov>; "bob.paulson"<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:43 PM
> Subject: I just called Mr Malley
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> To: "justicedonedirtcheap.7777newdposts"
> < justicedonedirtcheap.7777newdposts@blogger.com>
> Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:34 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Re Teddy Baby Olson was on Fox News today yapping about
> Presidential enemies list as he represents the crooks in Koch
> Industries???
> If anyone should know about such things it is Olson after all he assisted
> Ashcroft and Bush against me
>
>
> From: Elizabeth May <leader@greenparty.ca>
> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 13:28:01 -0700
> Subject: Thank you for your message / Merci pour votre courriel Re: Re
> Teddy Baby Olson was on Fox News today yapping about Presidential
> enemies list as he represents the crooks in Koch Industries??? If
> anyone should know about such things it is Olson after all he assisted
> Ashcroft and Bush against me
> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> Thank you for your email. We will work to ensure that a response is
> sent to you as soon as possible.
>
> For invitations or meeting requests, please email ea@greenparty.ca.
> For media inquiries, please email media@greenparty.ca.
>
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> ménagerons aucun effort pour vous transmettre notre réponse dans les
> meilleurs délais.
>
> Leader's Office Correspondence Team
> Équipe de correspondance du Bureau de la chef
>
> --
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *TIGTA Whistleblower Protection Ombudsman
> < WhistleblowerProtection@tigta.treas.gov>
> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:37:08 +0000
> Subject: RE: Hey Paul Samyn Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15 I
> wonder after January 11th if the fancy dudes over in the UK or way> down under will continue to ignore me as well??? After we share the
> same Queen N'esy Pas Stevey Boy harper?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Good morning,
>
> We have received your e-mail to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax
> Administration (TIGTA) Whistleblower Protection Ombudsman.  This
> e-mail account and TIGTA’s Ombudsmen are available to Internal Revenue
> Service (IRS) employees and applicants as well as contractors who have
> been subjected to retaliation as a result of engaging in
> whistleblowing activities (i.e., efforts on your part to report fraud,
> waste, and abuse).  Based upon the information in your e-mail, it does
> not appear that your inquiry falls within these parameters.
>
> Thank you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 6:23 PM
> To: Paul.Samyn@freepress.mb.ca; george.osborne.mp;
> J.Key@ministers.govt.nz; SpeakersOffice3@parliament.govt.nz;
> Andrew.Robb.MP@aph.gov.au; George.Soros; stephen.harper.a1;
> elizabeth.may; David.Coon; gopublic; whistle; washington field; *TIGTA
> Whistleblower Protection Ombudsman; whistleblower; Whistleblower;
> crof@shaw.ca; justin.ling; editor@thetyee.ca; Karine Fortin;
> carolyn.bennett; Doug@dougeyolfson.ca; doug.eyolfson@parl.gc.ca;
> fpcity@freepress.mb.ca; w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca; Paul.Lynch;
> Marianne.Ryan; sunrayzulu; dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca; john.green; chiefape;
> Catherine.Harrop@cbc.ca; redmond.shannon; Joe Friday;
> loyalistlaw@gmail.com; steve.roberge; robert.stoney; Leanne.Fitch;
> tj@burkelaw.ca; lou.lafleur; jeddy@coxandpalmer.com; oldmaison; andre;
> greg.byrne; paulzed@zed.ca; smay@coxandpalmer.com; nbpc
> Cc: David Amos; Greta.Bossenmaier; Jonathan.Vance; jon.gerrard
> Subject: Hey Paul Samyn Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15 I wonder
> after January 11th if the fancy dudes over in the UK or way down under> will continue to ignore me as well??? After we share the same Queen
> N'esy Pas Stevey Boy harper?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:44:28 -0400
> Subject: Well at least Paul Samyn of the Free Press has finally
> admitted what the Free Press in Louis Riel's old stomping gronds has
> been ignoring for 11 years EH Justin Trudeau
> To: pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "justin.trudeau.a1"
> < justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, Paul.Samyn@freepress.mb.ca,
> "carolyn.bennett"<carolyn.bennett@parl.gc.ca>, Doug@dougeyolfson.ca,
> doug.eyolfson@parl.gc.ca, fpcity@freepress.mb.ca,
> w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca, "Paul.Lynch"<Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>,
> "Marianne.Ryan"<Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, sunrayzulu> <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca,
> "john.green"<john.green@gnb.ca>, chiefape <chiefape@gmail.com>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, gopublic
> < gopublic@cbc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, radical
> < radical@radicalpress.com>, newsonline <newsonline@bbc.co.uk>,
> newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>,
> andre <andre@jafaust.com>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Samyn,Paul"<Paul.Samyn@freepress.mb.ca>
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 23:40:17 +0000
> Subject: RE: Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15 the CBC, the RCMP,
> their new boss Justin Trudeau and his Ministers of Justice and Defence
> etc cannot deny their knowledge of Paragraphs 81, 82, 83, 84, and 85
> now CORRECT G$?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> David;
>
> We are in receipt of your emails as well as your voice mail messages.
> At this point, we will not be following up on this story.
> Paul
>
> Paul Samyn  | Editor
>
> 204.697.7234  | 1355 Mountain Ave.  |  R2X 3B6
> winnipegfreepress.com  |  @paulsamyn
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Robert Stoney <loyalistlawoffice@yahoo.ca>
> Date: Tue, 05 01 2016 05:05:12
> Subject: Auto Response: Hey TJ Burke and Louie lafleur January 11th is
> coming fast Ya can't say that your buddies and the Police Commission
> ain't mentioned bigtime in my complaint N'esy Pas Stevey Boy Roberge?
> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
> > I am currently experiencing difficulties with the following email
> accounts:
>
> robertstoney@yahoo.ca
>
> loyalistlawoffice@yahoo.ca
>
> If you have sent a message to either of these accounts, please re-send
> that message to:
>
> loyalistlaw@gmail.com
>
> Also, please update my contact information to reflect
> loyalistlaw@gmail.com as my primary email address, effective
> immediately.
>
> Thank you for your patience.
>
> //RMS//
>
> Robert Stoney
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Robb, Andrew (MP)"<Andrew.Robb.MP@aph.gov.au>
> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 12:27:35 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: RE Nasty Trolls on the Internet & TPP So
> Prime Minister John Key and Minister Andrew Robb Should the FIVE EYES
> do their jobs for the benefit of the common man instead of messing
> with for yours N'esy Pas Justin Trudeau???
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for taking the time to contact me.
>
> This is an automatically generated reply so that you know that your
> email has arrived.
>
> As you will appreciate given the large number of emails received each
> day, a reply cannot be sent immediately, nor can a reply be sent to
> every email received.
>
> I will however read your correspondence.
>
> I prioritise emails from my constituents and those relating to my
> trade, investment and tourism portfolio.
>
> If your email relates to my responsibilities as Minister for Trade and
> Investment, I will consider your correspondence and respond if
> appropriate.
>
> If your email is part of an automatically generated campaign, I will
> note your views.
>
> For those interested, there is a significant amount of useful facts
> regarding the China FTA and Trans Pacific Partnership on my
> Department’s website:
>
> http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/chafta/Pages/australia-china-fta.aspx
>
> and
>
> http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/tpp/Pages/trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-tpp.aspx
>
>
> In the meantime, you may be interested in completing my community
> survey by clicking
> here<http://www.andrewrobb.com.au/Goldstein/OnlineSurvey.aspx>. You
> may also be interested in visiting my
> website<http://www.andrewrobb.com.au/>,
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> Twitter<https://twitter.com/andrewrobbmp>, or
> YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/user/AndrewRobbMP> pages.
>
> Yours sincerely,
> ANDREW ROBB
> Minister for Trade & Investment
> Federal Member for Goldstein
>
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>
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Speakers Office <SpeakersOffice3@parliament.govt.nz>
> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 22:18:52 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Trust that I don't mind being wrong about
> the choice of Speaker after listening to the Senate reform plans I say
> WOW just like Geoff Regan did when he commented that he was the first
> Speaker from the Maritimes in nearly 100 years
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> > On behalf of Rt Hon David Carter, Speaker of the House of
> Representatives, thank you for your email.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to write and please be assured that your
> comments will be read by Mr Speaker. However, there may be no further
> response to you.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Office of the Speaker
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "J Key (MIN)"<J.Key@ministers.govt.nz>
> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 12:28:12 +0000
> Subject: Thank you for your email
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> On behalf of the Prime Minister, Rt Hon John Key, thank you for your
> email.
>
> Please note that although email increases the speed of delivery, it
> may not be possible to provide you with the rapid response users of
> email may anticipate.
>
> The fact that you have taken the time to write is appreciated.  You
> can be assured that your views will be noted.
>
>
> Yours sincerely
> The Office of the Prime Minister
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Francis - WordPress.com"<court-orders@wordpress.com>
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 17:57:43 -0800
> Subject: [#2468707]: Your recent message to WordPress.com
> To: David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com
>
>> Feel free to scroll down until your conscience bothers you.
>>
>> https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/
>> [...]
>
> Hi David,
>
> The site in question has been removed from WordPress.com for violating
> our Terms of Service.
>
> Francis
> Community Guardian
> WordPress.com | Automattic
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:51:51 -0700
> Subject: Re: [#2468707]: Phone message from +19028000369 and your
> client Barry Winters' malevolent WordPress blog
> To: court-orders@wordpress.com, "washington.field"
> < washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "gilles.moreau"
> < gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Paul.Lynch"
> < Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
> < martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "justin.trudeau.a1"
> < justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
> "serge.rousselle"<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "justmin@gov.ns.ca"
> < justmin@gov.ns.ca>, "rod.knecht"<rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>,
> pol7163 <pol7163@calgarypolice.ca>, Glen Canning
> < grcanning@gmail.com>, patrick_doran1 <patrick_doran1@hotmail.com>
> Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Barry Winters
> < sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
>
> Thanks for responding to my calls
>
> Here ya go. Feel free to scroll down until your conscience bothers you.
>
> https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/
>
> You client is Barry Winters of Edmonton Alberta and his email address
> can be found in the Cc line of this email
>
> Perhaps you should confer with your lawyers. Obviously I sent the
> emails l directly to them one year apart and received no response.
> Scroll past your message to me and you will see my latest email to you
> people in its entirety.
>
> Trust that my family and I will sue your company in the USA someday.
> However i have every right to sue WordPress in Canada first
>
> FYI My family still lives in the Boston area and you people have been
> publishing libel, sexual harassment and death threats against them for
> way past too long. Trust that I saved every word.of this evil website
> of yours.
>
> Clearly both the FBI and the RCMP got the same email as well. I am not
> joking about this.
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
> > On 12/28/15, Sal P. - WordPress.com <court-orders@wordpress.com> wrote:
>> Hi there David,
>>
>> Thanks for getting in touch.
>>
>> I'm not seeng any previous emails from the address you're currently
>> writing
>> from, but perhaps you used a different address in the message you
>> mentioned
>> sending last year?
>>
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>> Best,
>>
>> Sal P. | Community Guardian | WordPress.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 18:22:05 -0400
> Subject: Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15 Did you order Harper and
> the NDP to ignore me as well???
> To: Liberal / Assistance <nbd_cna@liberal.ca>, cmunroe@glgmlaw.com, pm
> < pm@pm.gc.ca>, "justin.trudeau.a1"<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, mcu
> < mcu@justice.gc.ca>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> How about Dizzy Lizzy May and the Bloc?
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 16:57:43 -0400
> Subject: Re: WELL A COUPLE ETHICAL COMPUTERS AFFIRMED YOUR RECEIPT OF
> BARRY WINTERS LATEST PUBLISHED DEATH THREAT AGAINST ME WITHIN WORDRESS
> AS THE MINDLESS ZIONIST CELEBRATES THE BIRTH OF A MAN HE LOVES TO HATE
> To: press@eff.org, sunrayzulu <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, "Paul.Lynch"
> < Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>, Glen Canning <grcanning@gmail.com>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, justmin
> < justmin@gov.ns.ca>, "david.fraser"<david.fraser@mcinnescooper.com>,
> andrew <andrew@frankmagazine.ca>, andrewjdouglas
> < andrewjdouglas@gmail.com>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: EFF Press <press@eff.org>
> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 12:56:10 -0800
> Subject: Out of Office
> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>
> Hello. EFF offices are closed through January 4. We may be able to
> answer some urgent requests, but please note: we may not be able to
> get back to you as much of the staff is traveling. Thank you and see
> you on January 4.
>
> On 12/25/15, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------->> From: Cindy Cohn <cindy@eff.org>
>> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 12:52:55 -0800
>> Subject: EFF is closed until January 4, 2016
>> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>> EFF is closed until January 4, 2016.
>>
>> I will be periodically checking my email over the holiday, however. If
>> this is an emergency, please resend with URGENT in the subject line.
>>
>> For media requests, please email press@eff.org.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>>> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 16:52:44 -0400
>> Subject: WELL A COUPLE ETHICAL COMPUTERS AFFIRMED YOUR RECEIPT OF
>> BARRY WINTERS LATEST PUBLISHED DEATH THREAT AGAINST ME WITHIN WORDRESS
>> AS THE MINDLESS ZIONIST CELEBRATES THE BIRTH OF A MAN HE LOVES TO HATE
>> To: sunrayzulu <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, "Paul.Lynch"
>> < Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>, "don.iveson"<don.iveson@edmonton.ca>,
>> premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, "scott.mckeen"
>> < scott.mckeen@edmonton.ca>, "don.marshall"<don.marshall@edmonton.ca>,
>> Cindy Bruneau <Cindy.Bruneau@edmonton.ca>, teddyspalace@gmail.com,
>> customercare.other@hudsonsbay.com,
>> marks.customer.service@canadiantire.ca, jacob.glick@rci.rogers.com,
>> DDrummond <DDrummond@google.com>, abusecomplaints@markmonitor.com,
>> levi.heath@btlaw.com, jonathan.boustani@btlaw.com, mcu
>> < mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "justin.trudeau.a1"
>> < justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, cindy
>> < cindy@eff.org>, grosloff@durietangri.com, jeff@lakeshorelaw.org,
>> jgratz@durietangri.com, sagnolucci@kvn.com, axr@kvn.com,
>> dmcgowan@durietangri.com, ddurie@durietangri.com, patrick_doran1
>> < patrick_doran1@hotmail.com>, pol7163 <pol7163@calgarypolice.ca>,
>> "rodney.wadden"<rodney.wadden@fredericton.ca>, "rod.knecht"
>> < rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
>> < martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "Gilles.Moreau"
>> < Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Blinn"
>> < Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Paul.Collister"
>> < Paul.Collister@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "mark.vespucci"
>> < mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov>, "trudeau.j"<trudeau.j@parl.gc.ca>, john
>> graham <john.graham@safeway.com>, bruce bowman
>> < bruce.bowman@sobeys.com>, karin mccaskill
>> < karin.mccaskill@sobeys.com>, press@automattic.com, gopublic
>> < gopublic@cbc.ca>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, oldmaison
>> < oldmaison@yahoo.com>, newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, newsonline
>> < newsonline@bbc.co.uk>, news-tips <news-tips@nytimes.com>, news
>> < news@dailygleaner.com>, news <news@hilltimes.com>, news
>> < news@kingscorecord.com>, "mclaughlin.heather"
>> < mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>, radical
>> < radical@radicalpress.com>, paul <paul@paulfromm.com>,
>> business.ethics@safeway.com, tpandos@bentallkennedy.com,
>> customerservice@bestbuycanada.ca, echun@bestbuycanada.ca,
>> "ed.pilkington"<ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>, "Jacques.Poitras"
>> < Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, lois
>> < lois@loisjoysheplawy.com>, bluelightning 03
>> < bluelightning_03@hotmail.com>
>>
>> I DOUBLE DOG DARE ANYONE WITH EVEN AN INKLING OF ETHICS OR EMPATHY TO
>> SCROLL THROUGH BARRY WINTERS EVIL BLOG AND TRY NOT TO BE OFFENDED
>>
>> HERE IS ANOTHER DEATH THREAT JUST TO RUB IT IN
>>
>> https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/2015/12/06/david-amos-and-the-kiddies-get-what-they-deserve/
>>
>> https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/2015/12/20/naked-barry-the-beautiful-edmonton-police-detective-and-fucked-up-david-amos-2/
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Cindy Bruneau <cindy.bruneau@edmonton.ca>
>> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 12:39:22 -0800
>> Subject: Out of Office Re: Fwd: Perhaps you and the RCMP should review
>> these voicemails the documents and emails within the old pdf files
>> hereto attached before you quit N'esy Pas Mario Dion?
>> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>> I am away from the office and will return on Tuesday December 29
>> 2015. If your matter is time sensitive please contact Corporate
>> Security Monitoring and dispatch centre at 780-496-8888, and ask to
>> speak to the Advisor on call.
>>
>> I will respond to your email when I return.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>> --
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Cindy Bruneau, CPP
>> Corporate Security Advisor
>> Law Branch
>> Corporate Services
>> 780-496-5156
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> “Corporate Security’s mission is to mitigate risks to
>>
>> corporate assets and to contribute to the improved
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>>
>> To report a security incident:
>>
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>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Genevieve Rosloff <GRosloff@durietangri.com>
>> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 12:39:29 -0800
>> Subject: Out of Office: Perhaps you and the RCMP should review these
>> voicemails the documents and emails within the old pdf files hereto
>> attached before you quit N'esy Pas Mario Dion?
>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> Genevieve Rosloff is no longer with Durie Tangri LLP. Please call
>> 415-362-6666 if you need assistance.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/25/15, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Merry Xmass Mr Baconfat
>>>
>>> Here is one Hell of an email even if I do say so myself
>>>
>>> Please enjoy like you did the last one after you teased me about my
>>> Twitter account
>>>
>>> https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/2015/12/07/little-david-amos-crying-and-whining-on-twitter/
>>>
>>> https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/2015/12/08/little-david-amos-is-crying-again-3/
>>>
>>> You mentioned a lot of people and businesses in your Xmass blog so I
>>> took the liberty of informing them I read your comments about them as
>>> you sanction my demise again. I also included some old emails to many
>>> other people who know very well by now.
>>>
>>> Trust that I will sue someday soon just as you have begged me to do
>>> for many years. In the "Mean" time say Hoka Hey for me the RCMP, the
>>> EPS and to your racist family such as your evil Mother, Lori and
>>> Austin Ink and their  "Outlaws". as well. Need I say shame on you all?
>>> You know that I ain't one bit religious but but at least I am not wo
>>> faced. Why in Hell do you Zionist oxymorons celebrate Christmas while
>>> puting down Christ all the god damned time?
>>>
>>> I must also ask why does your daughter Keltie Winters and her cohorts
>>> in the Today Centre abide with what you publish about many people and
>>> her family in particular?
>>>
>>> Veritas Vincit
>>> David Raymond Amos
>>> 902 800 0369
>>> >>> P.S. Glen Canning and the lawyers who represent WordPress and Sobeys
>>> etc really should study this entire email rather closely this time.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/2015/12/22/its-christmas-in-the-city-pure-hell-with-the-outlaws-and-death-to-david-amos/
>>>
>>> “Its Christmas in the City,” Pure Hell with the Outlaws, and Death to
>>> David Amos!
>>> by baconfatreport on December 22, 2015
>>>
>>> Dead Rehtaeh Parsons…She wasn’t raped but she really liked to fuck her
>>> best friend’s boyfriends. Happy Christmas Glen and Leah.
>>>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 12/13/15, YouTube <noreply@youtube.com> wrote:
>
>> From: YouTube <noreply@youtube.com>
>> Subject: New activity on your video: Trudeau The Younger and CBCs mandate
>> To: David Amos
>> Date: Sunday, December 13, 2015, 10:09 PM
>> New
>> comment on your video
>> Trudeau
>> The Younger and CBCs
>> mandate+Tanker Malley As amusing as
>> that is that has nothing to do with it. I can't remember
>> if that guy threatened Amos like he did the school. I think
>> he just made references to risque posts his
>> daughterReplyView
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>
> On 1/6/16, Cmunroe (Liberal / Assistance) <nbd_cna@liberal.ca> wrote:
>> RealChange.ca | DuVraiChangement.ca
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>> Cmunroe, Jan 6, 14:28
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I would ask that you please do not respond to this e-mail (in the event
>> that
>> you were inclined to do so.)
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Craig Munroe
>> (Party Legal and Constitutional Advisor)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:09 AM
>> To: Craig Munroe <cmunroe@glgmlaw.com>; nbd_cna@liberal.ca; pm
>> < pm@pm.gc.ca>; ljulien@liberal.ca; pmilliken <pmilliken@cswan.com>;
>> bdysart
>> < bdysart@smss.com>; bdysart <bdysart@stewartmckelvey.com>;
>> Braeden.Caley@vancouver.ca; robert.m.schuett@schuettlaw.com;
>> jda@nf.aibn.com; eclark@coxandpalmer.com; office@liberal.ns.ca;
>> president@lpco.ca; david@lpcm.ca; emerchant@merchantlaw.com
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; assistance@liberal.ca;
>> Karine
>> Fortin <info@ndp.ca>; stephen.harper <stephen.harper.a1@parl.gc.ca>
>> Subject: Re: Attn Dr. John Gillis Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15
>> Trust
>> that I called and tried to reason with a lot of Liberals begore I am
>> before
>> the court again on Monday Jan 11th
>>
>> On 1/6/16, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> BTW the nice guys who talked to me and didn't dismiss me I put in the
>>> BCC line
>>>
>>> Dr. John Gillis
>>> P.O. Box 723
>>> 5151 George Street, Suite 1400
>>> Halifax, Nova Scotia
>>> Canada B3J 2T3
>>> Tel: (902) 429-1993
>>> Email: office@liberal.ns.ca
>>>
>>> John Allan, President
>>> Liberal Party of Newfoundland & Labrador
>>> T: (709) 685-1230
>>> jda@nf.aibn.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Braeden Caley
>>> Office of the Mayor, City of Vancouver
>>>   604-809-9951
>>> Braeden.Caley@vancouver.ca,
>>>
>>>
>>> Britt Dysart QC
>>> Suite 600, Frederick Square
>>> 77 Westmorland Street
>>> P.O. Box 730
>>> Fredericton, NB, Canada
>>> E3B 5B4
>>>
>>> P 506.443.0153
>>> F 506.443.9948
>>>
>>>
>>> Evatt F. A. Merchant
>>> Merchant Law Group LLP
>>> First Nations Bank Bldg.
>>> 501-224 4th Ave. S.
>>> Saskatoon, Saskatchewan S7K 5M5
>>> Phone: 306-653-7777
>>> Email: emerchant@merchantlaw.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Ewan W. Clark
>>> Montague
>>> Phone: (902) 838-5275
>>> Fax: (902) 838-3440
>>> eclark@coxandpalmer.com
>>>
>>> Robert M. Schuett
>>> #200, 602 11th Avenue SW
>>> Calgary Alberta T2R 1J8
>>> Phone: (403) 705-1261
>>> Fax: (403) 705-1265
>>> robert.m.schuett@schuettlaw.com
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.liberal.ca/national-board-of-directors/
>>>
>>> Who are we?
>>>
>>> We are volunteers from across the country who care passionately about
>>> Canada’s future and promoting Liberal values. We are community
>>> leaders, parents, and professionals who volunteer our time in this
>>> role. The board works together to provide oversight and guidance to
>>> the Party in matters both fiduciary, and strategic. We meet regularly
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>>> such a distinct and talented group of individuals. Please don’t
>>> hesitate to reach out to us at nbd_cna@liberal.ca.
>>> Anna Gainey
>>>
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada
>>>
>>> T @annamgainey
>>> Leader        Justin Trudeau
>>> National President    Anna Gainey
>>> Acting National Director      Christina Topp
>>> National Vice-President (English)     Chris MacInnes
>>> National Vice-President (French)      Marie Tremblay
>>> National Policy Chair         Maryanne Kampouris
>>> National Membership Secretary         Leanne Bourassa
>>> Past National President       Mike Crawley
>>> President, Liberal Party of Newfoundland & Labrador   John Allan
>>> President, Liberal Party of Prince Edward Island      Ewan Clark
>>> President, Nova Scotia Liberal Party  John Gillis
>>> President, New Brunswick Liberal Association  Britt Dysart
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Québec)   Linda Julien
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario)  Tyler Banham
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Manitoba)         Sachit Mehra
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Saskatchewan)     Evatt Merchant
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Alberta)  Robbie Schuett
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (British Columbia)         Braeden
>>> Caley
>>> President, Federal Liberal Association of Yukon       Blake Rogers
>>> President, Liberal Party of Canada (Northwest Territories)    Rosanna
>>> Nicol
>>> President, Federal Liberal Association of Nunavut     Michel Potvin
>>> Caucus Representative         Francis Scarpaleggia
>>> Co-Chair, Aboriginal Peoples’ Commission (Female)     Caitlin Tolley
>>> Co-Chair, Aboriginal Peoples’ Commission (Male)       Kevin Seesequasis
>>> President, National Women’s Liberal Commission        Carlene Variyan
>>> President, Young Liberals of Canada   Justin Kaiser
>>> Co-Chair, Senior Liberals’ Commission (French)        Anne Adams
>>> Co-Chair, Senior Liberals’ Commission (English)       Kenneth D.
>>> Halliday
>>> Chair, Council of Presidents  Veena Bhullar
>>> Chief Financial Officer       Chuck Rifici
>>> Chief Revenue Officer         Stephen Bronfman
>>> CEO, Federal Liberal Agency of Canada         Mike Eizenga
>>> National Campaign Co-Chair    Katie Telford
>>> Constitutional and Legal Adviser (English)    Craig Munroe
>>> Constitutional and Legal Adviser (French)     Elise Bartlett
>>>
>>> Craig T. Munroe, Partner
>>> Email: cmunroe@glgmlaw.com
>>> Phone: (604) 891-1176
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:32:00 -0400
>>> Subject: Re Federal Court File No: T-1557-15 the CBC, the RCMP, their
>>> new boss Justin Trudeau and his Ministers of Justice and Defence etc
>>> cannot deny their knowledge of Paragraphs 81, 82, 83, 84, and 85 now
>>> CORRECT G$?
>>> To: Paul.Samyn@freepress.mb.ca, "carolyn.bennett"
>>> < carolyn.bennett@parl.gc.ca>, Doug@dougeyolfson.ca,
>>> doug.eyolfson@parl.gc.ca, fpcity@freepress.mb.ca,
>>> w.kinew@uwinnipeg.ca, "Paul.Lynch"<Paul.Lynch@edmontonpolice.ca>,
>>> "Marianne.Ryan"<Marianne.Ryan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, sunrayzulu>>> <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca,
>>> "john.green"<john.green@gnb.ca>, chiefape <chiefape@gmail.com>>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, gopublic
>>> < gopublic@cbc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, radical
>>> < radical@radicalpress.com>, newsonline <newsonline@bbc.co.uk>,
>>> newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>,
>>> andre <andre@jafaust.com>
>>>
>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.
>>> html
>>>
>>> David Raymond Amos Versus The Crown T-1557-15
>>>
>>> 81.  The Plaintiff states that matters of harassment that the police
>>> refuse to investigate would have entered the realm of ridiculous in
>>> 2012 if the reasons behind the suicides of teenagers did not become
>>> well known by the corporate media. In the summer of 2012 a new member
>>> of the FPS who as a former member of the EPS had inspired a lawsuit
>>> for beating a client in Edmonton called the Plaintiff and accused him
>>> of something he could not do even if he wanted to while he was arguing
>>> many lawyers byway of emails about a matter concerning cyber stalking
>>> that was before the SCC.  The member of the FPF accused the Plaintiff
>>> of calling the boss of Bullying Canada thirty times. At that time his
>>> MagicJack account had been hacked and although he could receive
>>> incoming calls, the Plaintiff could not call out to anyone. The
>>> Plaintiff freely sent the FPF his telephone logs sourced from
>>> MagicJack after his account restored without the Crown having to issue
>>> a warrant to see his telephone records. He asked the FPF and the RCMP
>>> where did the records of his phone calls to and from the FPF and the
>>> RCMP go if his account had not been hacked. The police never
>>> responded. Years later a Troll sent Dean Roger Ray a message through
>>> YouTube providing info about the Plaintiff’s MagicJack account with
>>> the correct password. Dean Roger Ray promptly posted two videos in
>>> YouTube clearly displaying the blatant violation of privacy likely to
>>> protect himself from the crime. The Plaintiff quickly pointed out the
>>> videos to the RCMP and they refused to investigate as usual. At about
>>> the same point in time the Plaintiff noticed that the CBC had
>>> published a record of a access to information requests. On the list of
>>> requests he saw his name along with several employees of CBC and the
>>> boss of Bullying Canada. The Plaintiff called the CBC to make
>>> inquiries about what he saw published on the Internet. CBC told him it
>>> was none of his business and advised him if he thought his rights had
>>> been offended to file a complaint. It appears the Plaintiff that
>>> employees of CBC like other questionable Crown Corporations such as
>>> the RCMP rely on their attorneys far too much to defend them from
>>> litigation they invite from citizens they purportedly serve. The
>>> employees of CBC named within the aforementioned and the CBC Legal
>>> Dept. are very familiar with the Plaintiff and of the Crown barring
>>> him from legislative properties while he running for public office.
>>>
>>> 82.  The Plaintiff states that any politician or police officer should
>>> have seen enough of Barry Winter’s WordPress blog by June 22, 2015
>>> particularly after the very unnecessary demise of two men in Alberta
>>> because of the incompetence of the EPS. Barry Winters was blogging
>>> about the EPS using battering ram in order to execute a warrant for a
>>> 250 dollar bylaw offence at the same time Professor Kris Wells
>>> revealed in a televised interview that the EPS member who was killed
>>> was the one investigating the cyber harassment of him. It was obvious
>>> why the police and politicians ignored all the death threats, sexual
>>> harassment, cyberbullying and hate speech of a proud Zionist who
>>> claimed to be a former CF officer who now working for the Department
>>> of National Defence (DND). It is well known that no politician in
>>> Canada is allowed to sit in Parliament as a member of the major
>>> parties unless they support Israel. Since 2002 the Plaintiff made it
>>> well known that he does not support Israeli actions and was against
>>> the American plan to make war on Iraq. On Aril 1, 2003 within two
>>> weeks of the beginning of the War on Iraq, the US Secret Service
>>> threatened to practice extraordinary rendition because false
>>> allegations of a Presidential threat were made against him by an
>>> American court. However, the Americans and the Crown cannot deny that
>>> what he said in two courts on April 1, 2003 because he published the
>>> recordings of what was truly said as soon as he got the court tapes.
>>> The RCMP knows those words can still be heard on the Internet today.
>>> In 2009, the Plaintiff began to complain of Barry Winters about
>>> something far more important to Canada as nation because of Winters’
>>> bragging of being one of 24 CF officers who assisted the Americans in
>>> the planning the War on Iraq in 2002. In the Plaintiff’s humble
>>> opinion the mandate of the DND is Defence not Attack. He is not so
>>> naive to think that such plans of war do not occur but if Barry
>>> Winters was in fact one of the CF officers who did so then he broke
>>> his oath to the Crown the instant he bragged of it in his blog. If
>>> Winters was never an officer in the CF then he broke the law by
>>> impersonating an officer. The Plaintiff downloaded the emails of the
>>> Privy Council about Wikileaks. The bragging of Barry Winters should
>>> have been investigated in 2009 before CBC reported that documents
>>> released by WikiLeaks supported his information about Canadian
>>> involvement in the War on Iraq.
>>>
>>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>
>>> January 13, 2015
>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>
>>> December 8, 2014
>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>
>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>>
>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>>
>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>>> campaign of 2006.
>>>
>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>>
>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>>
>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>>
>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>> essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
>>> ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
>>> and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
>>> or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
>>> terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
>>> “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
>>> Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
>>> ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
>>> Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
>>>
>>> One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
>>> was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
>>> amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
>>> denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
>>> self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
>>> “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
>>> G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
>>> behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
>>> Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
>>> cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
>>> are not.
>>>
>>> Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
>>> mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
>>> world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
>>> David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
>>> and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
>>> and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
>>> “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
>>> criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
>>> tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
>>>
>>> In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
>>> “the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
>>> successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
>>> marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
>>> military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
>>> equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
>>> antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
>>> years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
>>> won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
>>>
>>> My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
>>> Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
>>> Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
>>> served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
>>> democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
>>> other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
>>> these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
>>> other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
>>>
>>> Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
>>> and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
>>> shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
>>>
>>> Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
>>>
>>> From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
>>> Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
>>> the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
>>> alive
>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
>>> your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
>>> to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
>>> Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
>>> War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
>>> To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
>>> Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca,
>>> william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>,
>>> dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
>>> milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
>>> sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
>>> < smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
>>> susan@blueskystrategygroup.com, Don@blueskystrategygroup.com,
>>> eugene@blueskystrategygroup.com, americas@aljazeera.net
>>> Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice"<Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
>>> < terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower
>>> < whistleblower@ctv.ca>
>>>
>>> I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
>>> Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
>>> Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
>>> CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
>>> be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
>>> that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
>>> if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
>>> about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact  that  your
>>> old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
>>> never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
>>> interesting though
>>>
>>> http://www.blueskystrategygroup.com/index.php/team/don-ne...

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