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New York Times opinion editor resigns over 'Send in the Troops' op-ed

June 7, 2020, 9:19 pm
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New York Times opinion editor resigns over 'Send in the Troops' op-ed

Essay written by Republican senator advocated for using U.S. troops to quell protests


The Associated Press· Posted: Jun 07, 2020 5:31 PM ET



James Bennet, editorial page editor of The New York Times, leaves federal court in New York in August 2017. (Larry Neumeister/The Associated Press)


The New York Times' editorial page editor resigned Sunday after the newspaper disowned an opinion piece by U.S. Sen. Tom Cotton that advocated using federal troops to quell unrest, and it was later revealed he hadn't read the piece prior to publication.

James Bennet resigned and his deputy, James Dao, is being reassigned at the newspaper, the Times said Sunday.

The fallout was swift after the Arkansas Republican's piece was posted online late Wednesday. It caused a revolt among Times journalists, with some saying it endangered black employees and calling in sick on Thursday in protest.

Following a review, the newspaper said Cotton's piece should not have been published, at least not without substantial revisions.

Katie Kingsbury, a Pulitzer Prize winner for editorial writing who joined the Times from the Boston Globe in 2017, will oversee the opinion pages through the November elections, the Times said.


Ida Bae Wells✔@nhannahjones
I’ll probably get in trouble for this, but to not say something would be immoral. As a black woman, as a journalist, as an American, I am deeply ashamed that we ran this. https://nyti.ms/3dyvJ5Z
U.S. Senator Tom Cotton calls for “an overwhelming show of force.”

Tom Cotton: Send In the Troops

The nation must restore order. The military stands ready.

9:11 PM - Jun 3, 2020



Times publisher A.G. Sulzberger said in a statement that he was grateful for changes Bennet had made to the paper's opinion pages, including broadening the range of voices. Bennet, who was editor of The Atlantic before taking over the Times' opinion pages in 2016, had received some heat for adding new voices, including conservative columnist Bret Stephens.

The publisher told a reporter from his own newspaper that he and Bennet both "concluded that James would not be able to lead the team through the next leg of change required."
It was the second high-level journalism job lost because of mistakes made in coverage of the nationwide protests about the treatment of blacks by law enforcement. The top editor at the Philadelphia Inquirer, Stan Wischnowski, resigned Saturday after uproar over a headline that said, Buildings Matter, Too.

Even before Bennet's resignation and the paper rescinding its support for Cotton's piece, Sulzberger had called for beefing up the opinion section's fact-checking and suggesting that it was publishing too many opinion pieces by outsiders.


The Times reported that Cotton's piece was edited by Adam Rubenstein. But Dao, in a tweet on Saturday, revealed that he supervised the acceptance and review of Cotton's piece and that blame should be placed on the department's leadership and not Rubenstein.

Jim Dao@jimdao
I oversaw the acceptance and review of the Cotton Op-Ed. None of this is on @rubensteinadam. The fault here should be directed at the @nytopinion leadership team and not at an intrepid and highly competent junior staffer.
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Cotton on Sunday tweeted an initial copy of a Times article about Bennet's resignation, saying it was "false and offensive." He said he advocated using military force as a backup, only if police are overwhelmed, to stop riots — not against protesters.

Cotton retweeted President Donald Trump, who said that "the State of Arkansas is very proud of Tom. The New York Times is Fake News!"

He had no other comment, a spokesperson said.

Had not read article before posting

Bennet, who had revealed in a meeting on Friday that he had not read Cotton's piece before it was posted online, had defended it following the initial protests, saying it was important to hear from all points of view.

But the Times review criticized several aspects of Cotton's piece, starting with the headline, "Send in the Troops", which the newspaper said in an editor's note Saturday was "incendiary and should not have been used."

Cotton's essay referred to "left-wing radicals like antifa infiltrating protest marches to exploit" Floyd's death when, in fact, there has been little evidence of antifa's involvement in the demonstrations. Cotton's statement that police had borne the brunt of violence stemming from the demonstrations should have been challenged, the newspaper said.


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The newspaper said that "given the life-and-death importance of the topic, the senator's influential position and the gravity of the steps he advocates, the essay should have undergone the highest level of scrutiny."

Bennet, the brother of U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet, a Colorado Democrat, was declining requests for interviews, a Times spokesperson said. Sulzberger was unavailable, she said.

Sulzberger also told the Times the Cotton incident was "a significant breakdown in our editing processes, not the first we've experienced in recent years." The opinion section received criticism in 2019 for publishing an unsubstantiated allegation against U.S. Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.



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George Reid
What’s the point of opinion pieces if you only allow one opinion


Fred Thiolla 
Reply to @George Reid: no questioning the Twitter mob
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @George Reid:
Not every option is valid
 
 
Dan Chanos 
Reply to @George Reid:
have you read the oped in it's entirety and even if you did most newspapers do have standards under which opeds are published.
 
 
Darryl Braun 
Reply to @Dan Chanos: His question is still valid.
 
 
Derek Pagnucci 
Reply to @George Reid: and yet we’re constantly told that the nyt isn’t biased?
 
 
Li Mochi 
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Huh? You don't understand the meaning of the word "opinion"
 
 
Kelly Sullivan 
Reply to @Li Mochi: It's not difficult to think of opinions that should not be published. Someonw may have the opinion that certain people are inherently better than others (I'm workding this as carefully as I can -- read between the lines). Another opinion may advocate violence.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @George Reid: Good question





























John Sollows
Excessive censoring of controversial points of view will play into Trump's hands.


Li Mochi 
Reply to @John Sollows: Hope so
 
 
Michal Scur 
Reply to @John Sollows: using the military to suppress your own people demanding institutional reform shouldnt be "controversial", it should be obsolete and would result in the resignation of said politician in any other civilized society. but this is america, where the republicans aim to emulate autocrats and one party states like china. therefore it is "controversial"
 
 
Simon_Flood 
Reply to @Michal Scur: wow.
 
 
Perry Best 
Reply to @Michal Scur: "using the military to suppress your own people demanding institutional reform"
using the military to suppress your own people vandalizing, looting maiming and killing your own people.
 
 
Elmer Smith 
Reply to @Michal Scur: If politicians and police aren't doing their job against the element who are being violent and committing crimes, then something needs to be done. Or maybe those who read the NYTs think fai ries riding unic orns down Fifth avenue will restore the peace?
 
 
Michal Scur 
Reply to @Perry Best: the majority of the protests were peaceful, but anyways, if the police cant handle crowd control, and have no deescalation tactics, and low hiring standards, and think that coming to a protest kitted like theyre moving into fallujah then they are incapable of doing their job. perhaps a slew of serious reforms by the politicians and police unions would have done more to quell the protests then violent reppression.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @John Sollows: I agree
 
 
Scott McGregor
Reply to @Elmer Smith: Calling the military against your own people is what dictators do. Most of the top military brass are against it.






























Jon Karl
So instead of having opinion pieces, we are going to have one opinion throughout the paper.


Barry Bondar 
Reply to @Jon Karl: ... and sufficiently washed to offend no one & to have no value ... :(
 
 
Li Mochi 
Reply to @Jon Karl: Welcome to the USSR
 
 
Kelly Sullivan 
Reply to @Jon Karl: Where does it say that?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jon Karl: I know for a fact the NYT has always been that way and can easily prove it with Hard Copy
 
 
Scott McGregor 
Reply to @Li Mochi: the USSR would agree that using the military against your own citizens would be a good move.














































https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html


Opinion

Tom Cotton: Send In the Troops

The nation must restore order. The military stands ready.
Mr. Cotton, a Republican, is a United States senator from Arkansas.
Credit...Pool photo by Andrew Harnik

Editors’ Note, June 5, 2020:
After publication, this essay met strong criticism from many readers (and many Times colleagues), prompting editors to review the piece and the editing process. Based on that review, we have concluded that the essay fell short of our standards and should not have been published.
The basic arguments advanced by Senator Cotton — however objectionable people may find them — represent a newsworthy part of the current debate. But given the life-and-death importance of the topic, the senator’s influential position and the gravity of the steps he advocates, the essay should have undergone the highest level of scrutiny. Instead, the editing process was rushed and flawed, and senior editors were not sufficiently involved. While Senator Cotton and his staff cooperated fully in our editing process, the Op-Ed should have been subject to further substantial revisions — as is frequently the case with such essays — or rejected.
For example, the published piece presents as facts assertions about the role of “cadres of left-wing radicals like antifa”; in fact, those allegations have not been substantiated and have been widely questioned. Editors should have sought further corroboration of those assertions, or removed them from the piece. The assertion that police officers “bore the brunt” of the violence is an overstatement that should have been challenged. The essay also includes a reference to a “constitutional duty” that was intended as a paraphrase; it should not have been rendered as a quotation.
Beyond those factual questions, the tone of the essay in places is needlessly harsh and falls short of the thoughtful approach that advances useful debate. Editors should have offered suggestions to address those problems. The headline — which was written by The Times, not Senator Cotton — was incendiary and should not have been used.
Finally, we failed to offer appropriate additional context — either in the text or the presentation — that could have helped readers place Senator Cotton’s views within a larger framework of debate.
This week, rioters have plunged many American cities into anarchy, recalling the widespread violence of the 1960s.

New York City suffered the worst of the riots Monday night, as Mayor Bill de Blasio stood by while Midtown Manhattan descended into lawlessness. Bands of looters roved the streets, smashing and emptying hundreds of businesses. Some even drove exotic cars; the riots were carnivals for the thrill-seeking rich as well as other criminal elements.

Outnumbered police officers, encumbered by feckless politicians, bore the brunt of the violence. In New York State, rioters ran over officers with cars on at least three occasions. In Las Vegas, an officer is in “grave” condition after being shot in the head by a rioter. In St. Louis, four police officers were shot as they attempted to disperse a mob throwing bricks and dumping gasoline; in a separate incident, a 77-year-old retired police captain was shot to death as he tried to stop looters from ransacking a pawnshop. This is “somebody’s granddaddy,” a bystander screamed at the scene.

Some elites have excused this orgy of violence in the spirit of radical chic, calling it an understandable response to the wrongful death of George Floyd. Those excuses are built on a revolting moral equivalence of rioters and looters to peaceful, law-abiding protesters. A majority who seek to protest peacefully shouldn’t be confused with bands of miscreants.

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Trump Was Wrong to Deploy Troops. Will the Military Push Back?
Opinion | Philip V. McHarris and Thenjiwe McHarris
No More Money for the Police
Opinion | Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor
Of Course There Are Protests. The State Is Failing Black People.

But the rioting has nothing to do with George Floyd, whose bereaved relatives have condemned violence. On the contrary, nihilist criminals are simply out for loot and the thrill of destruction, with cadres of left-wing radicals like antifa infiltrating protest marches to exploit Floyd’s death for their own anarchic purposes.

These rioters, if not subdued, not only will destroy the livelihoods of law-abiding citizens but will also take more innocent lives. Many poor communities that still bear scars from past upheavals will be set back still further.

One thing above all else will restore order to our streets: an overwhelming show of force to disperse, detain and ultimately deter lawbreakers. But local law enforcement in some cities desperately needs backup, while delusional politicians in other cities refuse to do what’s necessary to uphold the rule of 
law

Credit...Jonathan Ernst/Reuters
The pace of looting and disorder may fluctuate from night to night, but it’s past time to support local law enforcement with federal authority. Some governors have mobilized the National Guard, yet others refuse, and in some cases the rioters still outnumber the police and Guard combined. In these circumstances, the Insurrection Act authorizes the president to employ the military “or any other means” in “cases of insurrection, or obstruction to the laws.”

This venerable law, nearly as old as our republic itself, doesn’t amount to “martial law” or the end of democracy, as some excitable critics, ignorant of both the law and our history, have comically suggested. In fact, the federal government has a constitutional duty to the states to “protect each of them from domestic violence.” Throughout our history, presidents have exercised this authority on dozens of occasions to protect law-abiding citizens from disorder. Nor does it violate the Posse Comitatus Act, which constrains the military’s role in law enforcement but expressly excepts statutes such as the Insurrection Act.
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For instance, during the 1950s and 1960s, Presidents Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson called out the military to disperse mobs that prevented school desegregation or threatened innocent lives and property. This happened in my own state. Gov. Orval Faubus, a racist Democrat, mobilized our National Guard in 1957 to obstruct desegregation at Little Rock Central High School. President Eisenhower federalized the Guard and called in the 101st Airborne in response. The failure to do so, he said, “would be tantamount to acquiescence in anarchy.”

More recently, President George H.W. Bush ordered the Army’s Seventh Infantry and 1,500 Marines to protect Los Angeles during race riots in 1992. He acknowledged his disgust at Rodney King’s treatment — “what I saw made me sick” — but he knew deadly rioting would only multiply the victims, of all races and from all walks of life.

Not surprisingly, public opinion is on the side of law enforcement and law and order, not insurrectionists. According to a recent poll, 58 percent of registered voters, including nearly half of Democrats and 37 percent of African-Americans, would support cities’ calling in the military to “address protests and demonstrations” that are in “response to the death of George Floyd.” That opinion may not appear often in chic salons, but widespread support for it is fact nonetheless.

The American people aren’t blind to injustices in our society, but they know that the most basic responsibility of government is to maintain public order and safety. In normal times, local law enforcement can uphold public order. But in rare moments, like ours today, more is needed, even if many politicians prefer to wring their hands while the country burns.

Tom Cotton (@sentomcotton) is a Republican senator from Arkansas







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Irving refinery scored 'free' oil from historic price collapse, according to Higgs

June 8, 2020, 11:52 am
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Methinks I struck a nerve again when I posted that Higgy's buddies in Vestcor may be nervous campers today just as as the dudes playing with our CPP funds certainly should be N'esy Pas?



https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/irving-refinery-scored-free-oil-from.html







https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-oil-refinery-price-crash-saint-john-1.5601341



Irving refinery scored 'free' oil from historic price collapse, according to Higgs

Company mum but premier says a tanker with free oil from an April market crash unloaded in Saint John in May


Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Jun 08, 2020 6:00 AM AT



Premier Blaine Higgs spent most of his career with Irving Oil and told a business podcast in May the company cashed in on unprecedented negative crude oil prices in April. (Stephen MacGillivray /Canadian Press)

It was the darkest of days for Canadian oil producers in April when western crude prices freakishly dropped below $0 per barrel, but it was a windfall for buyers and Irving Oil Ltd. jumped on it, according to New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs.

"I worked in the refinery for many years and apparently in the last month there was actually a free load of crude oil that came through the Panama Canal," said Higgs, while speaking remotely to a business audience two weeks ago.

"Now they had to pay transportation, but imagine negative cost for crude."
Irving Oil has not confirmed the story and did not respond to an email inquiry asking for information about it.

But in April a series of market events mostly in the U.S. culminated with holders of futures contracts of West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil, offering product they were obliged to accept delivery of in May for free, or less.
At the market low point on April 20, sellers of contracts that were timed to lock in on April 21 were offering to pay more than $30 per barrel to anyone willing to accept deliveries of crude oil tied to the contracts that were coming in May and had no where to go.

"They have to pay you to take their oil, which was up to $35 per barrel. It was just an interesting point in history," U.S. billionaire Carl Icahn told Bloomberg News about deals he made for his own refinery during the April giveaway.

"It was really fascinating. You'll never see anything like that in history again I don't believe."


An unidentified tanker full of 'free' oil made its way to New Brunswick's Irving Oil refinery sometime last month through the Panama Canal, according Premier Blaine Higgs. (Marcelo del Pozo/Bloomberg)

Traders were caught by a collapse in demand for oil caused by sudden COVID-19 economic shutdowns that began unexpectedly in March.

A worldwide glut of crude had been building for months prior to the pandemic and on-land oil storage facilities around the globe were already near capacity. Across the world's oceans fleets of tankers filled with oil were also being paid to float around and wait for buyers.

It was all a disaster for investors who owned those April futures contracts which required holders to accept the receipt of crude deliveries in May but for which there was no market.


Prices for West Texas crude dropped to a historic low of minus $37.63 per barrel on April 20 as speculators tried to unload futures contracts that required delivery of product in May. (Jeff McIntosh/The Canadian Press)

The result was negative prices that shocked an already battered industry.

Brian Schmidt, president of Calgary oil producer Tamarack Valley Energy told CBC News at the time it was hard to take.

"These are very difficult days and yeah, I looked at that board today and saw that negative number and thought, this is crazy," said Schmidt.

But for those able to accept delivery of oil, it was the opposite — a historic windfall.


Irving Oil's refinery in Canada's largest and can process 320,000 barrels daily. Company traders scour the world for deals on oil but in 60 years had never gotten it for free, according to Premier Blaine Higgs. (Devaan Ingraham/Reuters)

Irving Oil has six million barrels of storage capacity at an onshore tank farm next to its deep water oil tanker offloading facility at Canaport in Saint John.

That's about an 18-day supply for its nearby refinery when operating at full production, although how much of that space could have been freed up to take advantage of negative prices is unknown.

According to Port Saint John records, 11 tankers carrying crude oil with capacities between 500,000 and two million barrels have unloaded at the Canaport terminal since the end of April, although which of those Higgs was referring to, if any, is a mystery.


A pumpjack pulls oil out of the ground in central Alberta. Western Canadian oil usually trades for less than West Texas crude, which sold for less than $0 in April. (Kyle Bakx/CBC)

Higgs said since the refinery was commissioned in 1960, it had never accessed cheaper product.

"That was not something imaginable when the refinery was built 59 years ago — that it would ever be free," he said.


Oil tankers from around the world unload regularly through an underwater piping system at Irving Oil's six-million barrel Canaport tank farm in Saint John. (Irving Oil/Twitter)



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David Amos
Methinks I struck a nerve again N'esy Pas?










David Amos

Content disabled
Methinks Higgy's buddies in Vestcor may be nervous campers today just as as the dudes playing with our CPP funds certainly should be N'esy Pas?






 


David Amos

Content disabled
Methinks we all should enjoy Higgy's circus when it begins again tomorrow N'esy Pas?










David Amos
"Irving Oil has not confirmed the story and did not respond to an email inquiry asking for information about it"

Surprise Surprise Surprise










Fred Brewer
So Irving gets free oil but we won't see a penny of reduced prices at the pump.
All profits end up in Bermuda.


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Ah Fred, surely you see the humour in this?
The Great and Wise Higgs expects us peons to get in line, wear our masks, work for crap wages, pay our taxes, buy New Brunswick goods and services, and vote for him.
Those he idolizes do none of those things.


JoeBrown 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Were you part of the deal, otherwise how do you know the effect?


David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks we all should enjoy Higgy's circus when it begins again tomorrow N'esy Pas?


Fred Brewer  
Reply to @JoeBrown: I don't know the deal but I don't have to; I know how the empire works as do most of us.


Fred Brewer 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I see absolutely nothing funny about taxes that our government should be collecting, going to a tax-free haven in Bermuda. When will someone put a stop this lunacy? We are circling the drain while one of the richest families in Canada pays little or no taxes.


Samual Johnston 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: part of the problem is people thinking it has anything to do with the Irving family. It is way bigger than them it is a global mindset where the richest of the rich are given loop holes by governments as in incentive to keep them investing in their country....city..region, etc. I'd like to see them pay some more as well but I do not condemn them for doing what they can to keep as much as they can. We all do that same and corporations around that world all do the same. When you target just one person or just one company it just comes off as petty hate or jealousy even if you have the greater good in mind.
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Higgs sees no problem with natural resources deputy doing top environment job too

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Methinks MacFarlane will get a golden handshake when he is done with the dirty work but with luck Cardy won't get much of a pension from this nonsense to pay for his butter tarts in his old age N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/tom-macfarlane-deputy-minister-environment-energy-higgs-1.5603367


Higgs sees no problem with natural resources deputy doing top environment job too

Premier says Tom MacFarlane's appointment 'a temporary or an interim position'


Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 08, 2020 4:34 PM AT



Tom MacFarlane, the current deputy minister in the energy department, told MLAs that staff lacked the scientific skills to provide advice about the NB Power-Joi pitch. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Premier Blaine Higgs says the appointment of the same top civil servant to two seemingly distinct roles doesn't create a conflict and shouldn't pit two competing priorities against each other.

The premier was responding Monday of criticism that Tom MacFarlane, the deputy minister at the Department of Natural Resources and Energy Development, is now also the deputy minister at the Department of Environment and Local Government.

"Environment is every department's responsibility," he said. "We feel it will work very well together."
Critics said last week that MacFarlane's two roles would be at odds with each other.
Green Leader David Coon said the Environment Department regulates the use of glyphosate, while Natural Resources support its use. The former decides on buffers around streams and lakes, which can collide with forestry operations overseen by the latter.

But Higgs said Monday that all departments collaborate on environmental issues, so there's no reason MacFarlane can't play both roles.


Premier Blaine Higgs said the appointment is temporary. (CBC)

He also said the new appointment is not a permanent posting.

"This is a temporary or an interim position at this point," he said.

No one from the province responded to questions Friday from CBC News on whether it was a permanent or temporary position, and the May 26 cabinet order making the appointment official doesn't describe it as an interim posting.

Higgs did not rule out keeping MacFarlane in both roles permanently.

He said departments have shown during the COVID-19 pandemic how they can work together and, "we need to find ways to keep that going and improve on it," he said.



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David Amos
Content disabled 
Methinks folks should ask the opposition leaders and their MLAs about this nonsense N'esy Pas?











Johnny Almar
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Tom was deputy at Social Development for awhile too. He gets around.


David Amos 
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Reply to @Johnny Almar: You should know
































Paul Krumm
It's not the appointing of another buddy that should be of concern but why the 200 or so other incompetents are still employed.


David Amos  
Reply to @Paul Krumm: Good point 
 































Fred Brewer
"Higgs sees no problem with natural resources deputy doing top environment job".

Of course not. After all, Higgs sees no problem with himself working for the empire while working as Premier. He could not recognize a conflict if it hit him in the face.



David Amos

Content disabled
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Methinks after you ignoring my replies to you for years I believe I have the right to state that you got the government you deserve N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks I made my point N'esy Pas?
 


























Fred Brewer
This is a page right out of Donald Trump's playbook.


David Amos 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: This is a joke 
 

Ben Haroldson
Incompetence and high pay seem to be the letter of the day, " in this place ".


David Amos 
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: As always
































Murray Brown
He put a guy who didn't have a library card in charge of library's... May as well put a guy who likes to cut wood in charge of the environment?


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @Murray Brown:
When you already have one guy hanging about doing nothing why employ a second guy to do the very same thing?


David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Yea but will he get double the pay?


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
Does it matter?


David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Surely you jest


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
No, I don't "jest". One more hog at the trough, or a hog that gets a double ration, same difference?


David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: The hog may eat twice as much but I get the same amount of bacon so logic tells me that he is the first in the frying pan


Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
Maybe he can take his buddy with him? OH! And take Cardy too.


David Amos 
Content disabled 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks he will get a golden handshake when he is done with the dirty work but with luck Cardy won't get much of a pension from this nonsense to pay for his butter tarts in his old age N'esy Pas?



























Samual Johnston
Won’t really matter as ministers do what they are Told but definitely not good optics


David Amos 
Reply to @Samual Johnston: It matters to me





























James Smythe
Shouldn't the headline read "Higgs sees no problem with a massive conflict of interest". Also, that isn't exactly news.


David Amos 
Reply to @James Smythe: Well put






























Roy Kirk
"Environment is every department's responsibility,"
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Perhaps, but the notion puts one in mind of the tragedy of the commons.


Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Roy Kirk: You wouldn't know it with what happened at the local hatchery this week.


David Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Very good point I hope some folks cared to understand you message





























Brent Harris Blizzard
Who cares, there is no industry here to worry about so might as well let another political hack at the trough.


Samual Johnston
Reply to @Brent Harris Blizzard: no industry? Or no worries?



David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Samual Johnston: Methinks nobody cares because everybody knows the big ones that do exist don't pay taxes but manage to receive lots of corporate welfare sourced from the rest of us N'esy Pas?


David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO



























Justin Time
This is definitely a conflict and should be corrected. Industry already runs the Natural Resources department, we don't need them running the Environment department as well.


David Amos 

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Reply to @Justin Time: Methinks you must be new to this wicked game N'esy Pas?


David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: Hmmm 
 

























David News
The issue here is even if it is a temporary appointment, they in the political spectrum tend to last the term of the current government. So maybe not temporary.
Basic corporate governance and compliance with accounting standards would require a segregation of duties to ensure that standards, environmental and budgetary cutting corners to get a project started does not occur for the wrong reasons.
While this fellow may be good, it puts him and any decisions in question and opens up the potential for lawsuits on decisions that people disagree with.
But maybe not an issue, this is NB and we don't spend money to build infrastructure, rather we cut costs to pay for the deficit.


David Amos
Reply to @David News: Dream on 

























 

Kyle Woodman
I think people are honestly reading too much into this. The individual in question has a good reputation amongst most stakeholders. He will act in good faith. The cynicism is certainly understandable though.


David Amos 
Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Yea Right 
 


























Jos Allaire
La Marion net des Iervings!


Fred Brewer
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Funny how quickly Higgs reacted to this appointment yet the silence from Higgs on the Kevin Cormier appointment is deafening. What does that tell you?



David Amos
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Reply to @Jos Allaire: Mais Oui


David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Too Funny 

























 

Jos Allaire
Higgs, Eva pruned an day bark next election!


Lou Bell
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Next election can't come too soon ! A majority awaits Higgs ! The SANB Liberals blew it with their " UNDISCLOSED Phonie Games giveaway !! Poor Joey !


David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Mais Oui



























June Arnott
Please keep it up opposition parties! Do no let this happen.


Lou Bell
Reply to @June Arnott: Well would you be happier with the 130 million doallar " Phonie Games " giveaway and the FREE barge they Liberals gave away to the Quebec company ???



David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Cry me a river


David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure 
 

























June Arnott
And there goes my respect for Higgs. Typical Irving lackey. No, these two jobs do not go together.


David Amos 
Reply to @June Arnott: You can't be surprised

























Roland Stewart
Of course he doesn't think there is a problem. It was probably just what the boss ordered .


June Arnott
Reply to @Roland Stewart: Irving lackey


Ray Oliver
Reply to @June Arnott: And the other leaders don't cater to our biggest NB Power customer, employer and injector of money into the local economy thru thousands of direct and indirectly related jobs? Of course they do. It's common sense



David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks we just heard from another shill for the "Powers that Be"'in NB N'esy Pas?


David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: "Reply to @Harvey York: His went "poof" as he likes to say. Darn. "

Yea Right



























Bill Vasseur
Doesn't surprise me one bit, this Government doesn't give a hoot about the environment. Let the Irvings have at it.


David Amos 
Reply to @Bill Vasseur: Nothing surprises me anymore 
 

Jack Straw
Why is this not surprising.


David Amos 

Content disabled
Reply to @Jack Straw: Methinks folks should ask the opposition leaders and their MLAs that question N'esy Pas?


David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: WOW


























Graeme Scott
Jeeez Blane....and you were doing so well.


David Amos  
Reply to @Graeme Scott: Dream on 
 

Donald Smith
Just asking, is he doing both Gigs for One Salary only, or getting Double ?


David Amos 

Content disabled
Reply to @Donald Smith: Methinks its likely somewhere in between but when he is done doing their dirty work I bet he will get one heck of a golden handshake Nesy Pas?


David Amos 

Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO


David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks Higgy and he agree that if it worked once it should work twice N'esy Pas?





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Methinks the leader of the Green Meanies just figured out that Higgy doesn't care what he thinks N'esy Pas?



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-double-duty-top-civil-servant-conflict-1.5600148



Double duty for top civil servant a clear conflict of interest, critics say

Tom MacFarlane's new appointment to Department of Environment and Local Government not announced publicly


Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 05, 2020 2:53 PM AT



Tom MacFarlane, deputy minister at the Department of Natural Resources and Energy Development, was recently named to the same top job at the Department of Environment and Local Government, raising concerns of a conflict in interest. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

The top civil servant overseeing provincial forestry and energy policies has been put in charge of the environmental rules that regulate those sectors, raising questions about how he can do both jobs at the same time.

Tom MacFarlane, the deputy minister at the Department of Natural Resources and Energy Development, was recently named to the same top job at the Department of Environment and Local Government.

"It's terrible," said Green Party Leader David Coon. "He will be in a direct conflict of interest."


Lois Corbett, the executive director of the Conservation Council of New Brunswick, said MacFarlane has "a breadth of experience" and "I have a lot of respect for him and his can-do abilities."

Lois Corbett, executive director of the Conservation Council of New Brunswick, said the perception of conflict is sometimes just as dangerous as real conflicts. (CBC)

But "with one hat on as energy and resource development deputy, he has a certain economic agenda to fulfill, but as environment deputy he has to protect water, first of all, and clean air, and natural systems," she said.

"I don't understand, no matter how wide the beam is, how you can walk that beam."

Appointment not made public

MacFarlane's new appointment was approved by the provincial cabinet May 26 and took effect two days later. The cabinet order makes no mention of it being an acting or interim appointment.

Shuffles of deputy ministers are done by Premier Blaine Higgs and are usually announced by the province in press releases, but MacFarlane's was not made public.

It took place when the public's attention was focused on the new COVID-19 outbreak in the Campbellton area.


MacFarlane replaces Kelli Simmonds, who was moved to the position of chairperson of the Workers' Compensation Appeals Tribunal.

Environment and Local Government Minister Jeff Carr did not respond to an interview request Friday.

'Worst decision that could have been made'

Coon said by holding two top bureaucratic jobs at once, MacFarlane is in the difficult position of having to decide in one department whether to restrict or ban activities promoted by his other department.

"Glyphosate is probably the most publicly well-known example," Coon said.

"Environment regulates it, they're responsible for the Pesticides Control Act, and they have the authority to not sign permits that would prevent its use on Crown land. And the Department of Natural Resources is fully behind its continued use."
 
 
Green Party Leader David Coon says Tom MacFarlane will be in a direct conflict of interest in his new position. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

The environment department also regulates buffer zones around streams, brooks and lakes, a role that Coon said "runs right into" forestry operations under Natural Resources.


"This is the worst decision that could have been made," he said. "I don't know what government was thinking when they decided that pairing those two departments under a single deputy made any sense."

Corbett said New Brunswickers "have to respect our civil service and trust that they have the highest level of professionalism at all times. But what I'm concerned about is that the perception of conflict is sometimes just as dangerous as real conflicts."

No meaningful change

Earlier this year at the first hearings by a legislative committee on climate change, MacFarlane acknowledged there was still no strategy to meet emissions targets in the energy sector, three years after the provincial climate plan called for one.

"It's a fairly extensive effort to do such a thing," he said.
Last fall, MacFarlane told the legislature's public accounts committee the department had "very little input" into NB Power's partnership with Joi Scientific because the department lacked the expertise to assess the company's hydrogen technology.

And in 2017, MacFarlane told the same committee his department still hadn't implemented a recommendation by the auditor general to give private woodlot owners a more reliable share of the wood being sold to major forestry mills.


"I think we're continuing to work on that recommendation," MacFarlane said.

A shrinking share of fibre from private woodlots, and a corresponding larger share from publicly-owned Crown land, contributed to the U.S. government ending an exemption for New Brunswick from softwood lumber duties in 2017.
Natural Resources and Energy Development Minister Mike Holland announced last December that woodlots would get to sell more, while wood from Crown land would remain at the same level over the next five years.

But Coon said Friday that without changes to legislation, that didn't amount to much.

"There's just been lots of verbiage from the minister on this but no actual meaningful change," he said.



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David Amos
Methinks the leader of the Green Meanies just figured out that Higgy doesn't care what he thinks N'esy Pas?


Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: No one cares what he thinks

























Justin Gunther
 I bet Rock n Roll Kevin Cormier's cracking a Friday cold one with a big grin on his face over this story.


Corrie Weatherfield 
Reply to @Justin Gunther: why did they not just give the library job to this guy as well ? Save us $100,000 +


David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: I will throw my two bits in your corner


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Bill would give police, government sweeping power over citizens

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Methinks the Crown cannot deny the Federal Court docket in Fat Fred City proves the documents and CD I gave Comeau in 2006 are the same Bryant as Attorney General of Ontario got in August of 2005 N'esy Pas?



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/emergency-powers-blaine-higgs-government-1.5607790



Bill would give police, government sweeping power over citizens

Bill would give police authority to stop and investigate someone without reason



Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 11, 2020 2:05 PM AT



Public Safety Minister Carl Urquhart "signs" the declaration implementing the Emergency Measures Act in March. (Louis Léger's Facebook)

The Higgs government's plan to give itself, and police, sweeping new emergency powers is facing a wave of criticism, leading a senior official to invite opposition MLAs to propose changes to the bill.

The proposal would let the provincial cabinet suspend provincial laws behind closed doors, without an immediate vote in the legislature, and would also give police the authority to stop citizens and demand identification without any reasons.

A legal expert, a leading civil libertarian and a Saint John municipal councillor all quickly denounced the legislation Thursday morning.
"We're in some very unprecedented territory here," said Nicole O'Byrne, a law professor at the University of New Brunswick.

"This is such a dramatic overreach by the executive to infringe or override the powers of the legislative assembly."

Not good timing

Michael Bryant, the executive director of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, said the expansion of police power is particularly ill-timed coming in the wake of widespread protests over police treatment of Blacks, Indigenous people and other people of colour.

"It is a hell of a time for a legislature to be giving to police the racist power to card people," he said. "I'd be shocked if the legislature would pass this provision at this time."
David Hickey, a Saint John city councillor, called the idea "a non-starter. … I'll be doing everything in my power to ensure that [the Saint John Police Department] do not follow this regulation."

Liberal leader Kevin Vickers said he has "huge concerns" with the legislation and his party MLAs will vote against the bill as currently written.

"It allows police to harass and gather information unlawfully by way of carding, a universally denounced practice. What is outrageous about this is the timing of it."
- Michael Bryant, director of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association

Public Safety officials responded quickly to the wave of criticism Thursday morning, telling reporters in a briefing that the amendments merely write into law a variety of measures and powers that the province had been using piecemeal since March.

Public Safety Minister Carl Urquhart declared a state of emergency March 19, giving him the power to make emergency orders to contain the spread of COVID-19.

Under the emergency law, the declaration has to be renewed by the cabinet every two weeks.
Urquhart's bill, introduced Wednesday, will amend the emergency law itself. He said it will allow government to "act in a timely manner [and] enhance compliance with the act, and orders issued under the act."

Deputy Minister Mike Comeau said Urquhart's various emergency orders have already suspended or overridden some provincial laws
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The changes simply give him "some explicit authority" for those orders and "provide greater transparency on the extent of the minister's authority."




Existing law 'already gives extremely broad powers'

Urquhart's orders, which have been updated frequently, were used to restrict travel, require people to self-isolate if ordered by a doctor, order restaurants to close dining rooms and ban landlords from evicting tenants for non-payment of rent.

Comeau cited those restrictions as examples of how the existing law "already gives extremely broad powers" to the minister. "Where that's going to happen, it's better to have legislative oversight."
He noted that under the amendments, any cabinet order suspending a provincial law must be upheld by the legislature within 30 days.

"We're comfortable that all of those [measures] were necessary for public safety and public health .. and we're comfortable they're all valid exercises of the minister's existing authority."


Deputy Minister Mike Comeau said some emergency orders have already suspended or overridden some provincial laws. (CBC)

Another section of the bill would ensure people providing essential services during an emergency can't be held legally liable for any damages resulting from that.

The amendment on suspending legislation says cabinet can "suspend the operation of or amend or supersede" any section of a provincial law or municipal by-law. Fourteen provincial statutes are exempt from its application.


"Now that might be efficient," O'Byrne said. "However it contravenes the last 400 years of parliamentary democracy."

The amendment on police officers and other peace officers, such as provincial enforcement officers, would give them the power to require "a person to stop in order to investigate whether or not there has been a violation" of the emergency order or act.


A Detroit protester holds a photo of George Floyd, who was killed in police custody in Minnesota, in a case that has launched nationwide protests and prompted criminal charges. (Sylvia Jarrus/Reuters)

The officer "may require the person to provide documentation as part of that investigation."

"It allows police to harass and gather information unlawfully by way of carding, a universally denounced practice," Bryant said. "What is outrageous about this is the timing of it."

Comeau said officials drafted the bill while "fully appreciating the potential for concern and people's sensitivity to broad policing powers" in the wake of protests sparked by the police killing of George Floyd.


A protest against police violence in Moncton where more than 350 people gathered to hear organizers speak and chant slogans like 'Black lives matter' and 'No justice, no peace.' (Guy LeBlanc/Radio-Canada)

He said the aim was to clarify the roles of enforcement officers screening people at the New Brunswick border.


He said most of them are conservation officers or vehicle inspection officers who have "stepped into roles that didn't exist to enforce measures that didn't exist" before the pandemic.

Comeau encouraged MLAs who believe the change is too broad to introduce amendments "that might bring this more clarity" during debate on the bill in the legislature.

Legal challenge likely if bill comes to law

The suspension of provincial laws would last until the end of the state emergency, unless the legislature met within 30 days of the cabinet order to set a different expiration date. The police powers would be in place until the end of the emergency.

The amendments to the act would remain in place after COVID-19 and would be available for governments to use in future emergencies, Comeau said.


Nicole O'Byrne, a law professor at the University of New Brunswick, says it's unwise for government to amend emergency powers in an emergency. (CBC)

O'Byrne says it's unwise for a government to amend emergency powers during an emergency.

"That leads to very, very bad decision-making, because you're not thinking about the bigger picture like the rule of law. You're just having knee-jerk reactions, and I think that is what is happening here."

Bryant said his organization will likely launch a legal challenge to the expansion of police powers if the bill becomes law.

Section 8 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms says that Canadians have "the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure."

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Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 


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David Amos
Content disabled 
"Deputy Minister Mike Comeau said Urquhart's various emergency orders have already suspended or overridden some provincial laws."

Of that I have no doubt

Methinks Mikey and I are gonna have quite a hoedown in Federal Court Perhaps Comeau should check the docket and review what I gave him in 2006 and our conversation about it back then Higgy et al cannot deny that was while his current boss Urquhart was still a member of the Fat Fred City Finest and Higgy worked for the Irving Clan More importantly the lawyer Michael Bryant cannot deny that he got exactly the same pile of documents and CD in August of 2005 byway of registered US Mail (signature required) when he was the Attorney General of Ontario N'esy Pas?











David Amos
"Section 8 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms says that Canadians have "the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure."

Methinks Urquhart's Deputy Minister Mike Comeau and the RCMP will finally get to explain to me real slow on the Public Record why the Fat Fred City Finest illegally seized my 1965 Harley in 2007 then lost it N'esy Pas? 


Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: They won't be telling you a thing I hope its parked in Comeaus garage right now 


Leroy Albertson
Reply to @David Amos: if you are in Canada. You have no rights to own your property enshrined in our constitution, or Charter. Even the clothes on your back are only there because the crown has looked benevolently down upon you. It is only a matter of time before they decide to take what is theirs.











David Amos
Methinks there is another hoedown coming to Federal Court in Fat Fred City Its docket already proves the documents and CD I gave Comeau in 2006 are the same Bryant as Attorney General of Ontario got in August of 2005 N'esy Pas? 












David Amos
Methinks some folks must have figured out by now that I was not joking about Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas? 











Sylvio C Boudreau
Content disabled
What do you call 100 conservative politicians up to their necks in cement?
Not enough cement.


James Edward 
Content disabled
Reply to @Sylvio C Boudreau: seems like a threat?


Sylvio C Boudreau
Content disabled
Reply to @James Edward: lol what?? It’s a joke. N’esy pas?!


David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Sylvio C Boudreau: I concur


Sylvio C Boudreau 
Content disabled
Reply to @James Edward: a joke from a joke book you would purchase at the drug store. Relax. Do you feel threatened by that for real??


Sylvio C Boudreau 
Content disabled
Reply to @James Edward: if I could, I would delete it before ya melt.


David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Sylvio C Boudreau: What the difference between a crooked government lawyer in Fat Fred City and a tornado up on the Hanwell???

Nothing sooner or later one of them will get your trailer.

Methinks Cardy and his buddy little Lou will never admit that joke is my creation N'esy Pas?


Sylvio C Boudreau
Content disabled
Reply to @James Edward: this forum is a joke. 



























Roland Stewart
He's been watching to much Trump TV.


David Amos
Reply to @Roland Stewart: We all have 
 



























Graeme Scott
Major over reach and the timing couldn't be any worse. Complete political fumble by the PC's. it's a shame as i thought they were doing fairly well but this is waaaaay over the line.


David Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @Graeme Scott: Methinks higgy aka Humpty Dumpty is about to suffer a great fall N'esy Pas?


June Arnott
Reply to @Graeme Scott: it is a shame, he was doing so well during the pandemic






























Bob Smith
Sounds like high ranking police folks were talking to the gov't about this. I remember years ago, the federal government of the day, at the behest of police chiefs, tried to make legal for police to enter a home without a warrant. It didn't fly then and I doubt this will go forwards either.


David Amos 
Reply to @Bob Smith:
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail — its roof may shake — the wind may blow through it — the storm may enter — the rain may enter — but the King of England cannot enter — all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement!

The Right Honourable William Pitt, 1st Earl of Chatham (
Speech on the Excise Bill, House of Commons (March 1763) 

























 

Kyle Woodman
Just shows how tone deaf Conservatives are. Tell me again about gun rights and government overreach.


David Amos  
Content disabled
Reply to @Kyle Woodman: What would be the point?

Methinks you only hear what you want to hear anyway N'esy Pas?


Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: Coming from you that's quite some well delivered irony isnt it?



























Johnny Almar
Hearing rumblings that the NB government is going to stop releasing new COVID-19 numbers by zone. May even stop reporting all together unless it’s to shut down regions.


David Amos 
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Who cares? 
 

June Arnott
Reply to @Johnny Almar: that would be so wrong, however, the way Zone 5 is being treated is horrid. No reason for us turning on each other, What if it were Moncton?? Would they close us all in?




























Jeff LeBlanc
Alright...even I will admit this is going way too far. Thankfully NB is too poor to fight this in court...if it ever gets there. Hoping cooler heads prevail and it doesn't pass into law. Higgs you were doing good but you are starting to show some major cracks here.


David Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Cry me a river 
 

























John Grail
Seems like NB's government is really trying to portray itself as authoritarian. This bill, closing borders, forcing people to stay home, forcing vaccinations of children, etc.


David Amos 
Reply to @John Grail: Methinks that because it is a Police State they just proved it tis all N'esy Pas?



























SarahRose Werner
By me, the laws *as they currently exist* have been well applied during the current emergency. I don't see the need to pass new laws that give the government and police even more power.


David Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Oh My My Methinks I should ask you why you lost faith in Higgy et al all of a sudden? After all its not like his Police State was unknown to you and your cohorts N'esy Pas?




























Johnny Almar
They are already backing down. CBC late to the party again.

David Amos 
Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks you know as well as I why thats par for the course N'esy Pas?




























Douglas James
It is a non-starter.


David Amos 
Reply to @Douglas James: Don't bet on it





























Tony Mcalbey
My oh my oh my what is Higgy gonna come up with next


David Amos 
Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Slavery perhaps
 

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Already has, they are called TFWs.

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You have a point



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Missing graduation: Essential workers crossing border for work told they can't go to children's graduation

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-graduation-high-school-sackville-1.5606561



Missing graduation: Essential workers crossing border for work told they can't go to children's graduation

Modified grade 12 graduation ceremony won’t allow essential workers who cross the border for work


Tori Weldon· CBC News· Posted: Jun 11, 2020 12:16 PM AT



Jennifer Loucks' daughter is graduating from Tantramar Regional High School later this month. School district rules could keep some parents who are essential workers from attending. (Tori Weldon/CBC)


A heath care worker who lives in New Brunswick and works in Nova Scotia said essential workers are being unfairly targeted after being told by her daughter's school that she won't be allowed to go to the graduation ceremony if she continues to go to work.

Jennifer Loucks' daughter Anna is graduating from Tantramar Regional High School in Sackville later this month.

Loucks  said she found out last week that she can't cross the provincial border for 14 days if she wants to be at the ceremony to see her daughter graduate.



"It's been a real rough year for them anyway, and they're not experiencing things like you and I would have," she said.

"It's important to be there for her."

COVID-19 restrictions mean graduation ceremonies at the high school are happening individually. Each graduate can bring up to four people, and is asked to arrive at a set time. The graduate will cross the stage, receive their diploma and have pictures taken, then leave the school.



Loucks' daughter is graduating from Tantramar Regional High School. (Tori Weldon/CBC)


"I don't feel that I'm at risk or a risk to anyone," said Loucks, who offered to wear a mask and gloves and says there are no known active cases of COVID–19 in Cumberland County, N.S., where she works.

She applauds the school for implementing a safe experience for the graduating students, but feels there is a way to allow for parents who are essential workers.

"Sackville is a border town and there are people that are constantly going back and forth for work because that's what they have to do every day," said Loucks. "If they have a family member that's graduating next week and they really need to consider that."




The school principal sent out a screening questionnaire to parents, with one question jumping out at Loucks: Have you returned from travel outside of New Brunswick within the last 14 days?

The next day, June 5, just 14 days before her daughter's graduation ceremony, Loucks followed up with the school to ask if, as an essential worker, she'd be allowed in the building.
She received an email four days later from the principal, reiterating : 'permission to enter the building cannot be approved should the answer be "yes" to any of the screening questions.'

"Well because my daughter was smart enough to ask a question last Thursday...14 days prior to graduation I made sure I made arrangements with my work to say, 'look I'm going to work from home for the next two weeks'," said Loucks. "But I know there are people that will definitely be impacted by this that are having to go to work every day in Nova Scotia."



It's really important that we recognize that those people are still going to work and they have to go to work.- Jennifer Loucks


Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer of health, said Wednesday at the regular COVID-19 briefing that especially in the case of health care workers, "if they work on one side of the border and they live on the other side of the border they are allowed to go back and forth without self isolating on a daily basis."

  
Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer of health, said essential workers crossing the border don't have to self-isolate on a daily basis. (Ed Hunter/CBC)


Anglophone East School district, director of communications said, "As is the case with every Government building/event in the Province, all those who enter must currently answer this questionnaire honestly and act accordingly based on their answers."

But Loucks said it's putting people who have to go to work and want to see their children graduate in a difficult position.

"It's really important that we recognize that those people are still going to work and they have to go to work," said Loucks.

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Tori Weldon
Reporter
Tori Weldon is a reporter based in Moncton. She's been working for the CBC since 2008.


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David Amos

Content disabled
Methinks Higgy et al knows why I will try to reach out to Jennifer Loucks as well N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Nobody can say that we didn't talk 



























Lou Bell
Sackville , like Sussex , as shown with their E.R.'s , is Special !


David Amos 

Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you are in fine style today Higgy must be awfully proud of his spin doctors N'esy Pas?



























Mack Leigh
Once more an individual is putting their own personal feelings and supposed " needs " ahead of those of the province as a whole.....


SarahRose Werner 
Reply to @Mack Leigh: It's not even the individual's own needs. If you read further down the story, this particular individual made arrangements to work from home 14 days before the graduation ceremony. Yet she's still complaining.

Mack Leigh 
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
It is apparent that for some no matter how many concessions are granted, no matter how many exceptions to the rules are given nothing is ever enough.. The old damned if you do and damned if you don't.

David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Don't you???

Michael John 
Reply to @Mack Leigh: we are assuming that she has covid19....if she is symptom free, she is probably fine 
 

























SarahRose Werner
What I'm seeing is that if you give people an inch, they complain that they're not getting a mile. This high school is working hard to do something more for their grads than just sending diplomas out in the mail. I hate to imagine how many hours school personnel are going to put in doing individual graduation ceremonies instead of the usual mass event. But instead of thanks, they're getting complaints.


David Amos 

Content disabled
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I repeat Who made you a Queen's Counsel???



























Tyson McGee
I'm under the impression all graduations are outside events. Why would she need to be screened if no one enters the building?


SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Tyson McGee: None of the graduations I've been to have been held outside? The weather in June is still pretty variable.

David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: So?
 




David News
Wondering if this person that is crossing the border daily is going home to the same place where the daughter resides in NB. If she is, then why is the daughter able to attend?
Sounds a bit like bureaucratic nonsense.
As a worker in NS she would be exempt from self isolation provided she followed the rules for the exemption on the NB website. It also qualifies the exemption "All such workers and individuals who are exempt from self-isolation must travel directly to and from work and/or their accommodations, self-monitor and avoid contact with vulnerable individuals, and follow the guidance of the Chief Medical Officer of Health." Typically her daughter would not qualify as a vulnerable individual so this just doesn't make sense.




http://web1.nbed.nb.ca/sites/ASD-E/Pages/District-Contacts.aspx


Gr​​egg Ingersoll 
Superintendent of the Anglophone East School District​

Stephanie Patterson
Director of Communications
Anglophone East School District
1077 St. George Blvd.,
Moncton, NB E1E 4C9

Tel: (506) 869-6004
Fax: (506) 856-3224
Email: Stephanie.patterson@nbed.nb.ca


asdeinfo@nbed.nb.ca

https://www2.ageinc.ca/GPA/coach?filters%5Bregion_id%5D=45

Jennifer Loucks
Challenging Behaviour Resource Consultant, Continuing Care
NSHA - Cumberland Regional Health Care Centre
19428 Highway 2,
RR 6 Amherst
B4H 1N6
902 667 6469
902 397  2311
Jennifer.Loucks@nshealth.ca













    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/educational-assistants-anglophone-east-budget-ingersoll-1.5182786


Anglophone East School District short $2M for educational assistants

Officials searching for ways to cover 60 EA positions in the fall, says superintendent


CBC News· Posted: Jun 21, 2019 6:00 AM AT
 


Anglophone East Supt. Gregg Ingersoll said growth in the district over the last couple of years has outpaced the amount of funding. (CBC)











David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise 



It sounds like the education system has become a BOTTOMLESS PIT in which to throw taxpayer cash . The article mentions that some classrooms of 20 students can have up to FOUR EAs , plus they have the teacher . Govt. should be providing essential services , and not be used as a MAKE WORK PROJECT . The student population has dropped heavily province wide over the last 20 years , yet the school system seems to be on a hiring blitz . Is it any wonder that the prov. debt has doubled to over 14 BILLION over the last TEN years when this type of wild out of control spending is going on......something needs to change !« less

    • 11 months ago
    Reply to @Matt Steele: you are forgetting that the raise of special needs students has risen. Eas are hired to help with those needs.

    • 11 months ago
    Reply to @Matt Steele: You obviously don’t understand the system, so let me try to explain in simple terms. You have a train with 2 engines up front, pulling a load of 100 small cars which is the maximum they were designed for. You add an extra 20 BIG, HEAVY cars to the line. The 2 engines rev up, struggle, but are capable of pulling the load with the extra effort. You add another 20 more cars to the line. These 20 are even BIGGER and HEAVIER then the last 20! The 2 engines rev up more, and are still able to pull, but the stress on the motors is obvious and definitely not sustainable; they were not designed for that kind of load and going to blow soon. The 2 options are to remove the extra cars (which isn’t really an option, otherwise the cars don’t go anywhere), or add an extra engine up front to spread the load. Those EAs are the engines.« less

    • 11 months ago
    Reply to @Reggie Sinclair: ......or maybe the EAs sit at the back of the classroom looking at , and texting , on their personal phones ; and do next to NOTHING OTHER THAN TO COLLECT A PAYCHECK . Maybe it is you who does not understand !

    • 11 months ago
    Reply to @Matt Steele: BINGO. Lots of Daycare staff in the school system as EA's that have minimal training in Mental Disabilities (man made or just biological) and in some cases none at all.

    • 11 months ago
    Reply to @Matt Steele: That is the most ignorant and unsubstantiated statement I have seen on here in some time. Most EAs work very hard at their jobs and are greatly appreciated by the teachers in the classrooms. If it wasn't for the EAs a lot of classrooms would be chaos and absolutely no learning would take place. Have you considered that the problem may be the idea of "full inclusion". I am sure a different model could be a lot more effective, both financially and in the terms of every student getting a proper education. P.S. No, I am not directly involved with the school system. just an outsider with a bit of common sense, looking in.« less

    • 11 months ago
    Reply to @al hubble: .....If you are not directly involved in the Education system , then it is doubtful that you have any idea what is going on in the classrooms . If you were aware of what is going on in the classrooms , then you would know that it is the teachers who are responsible for classroom management and teaching ; not EAs . Many classrooms are in chaos regardless of how many EAs are sitting at the back of the class , and streaming caused by FI and inclusion is the problem . The teachers are overwhelmed ; and hiring endless EAs is NOT THE SOLUTION !« less

    • 11 months ago
    Reply to @Matt Steele: I think you’d be happy if education were perhaps be abolished altogether? And what’s up with the “screaming” (caps) in your comments?

    • 11 months ago
    Reply to @Matt Steele: If your snarky comment is indeed true, it would provide an made to fit opportunity for you: spend all day SCREAMING at forums such as this. Go for it.

    • 11 months ago
    Reply to @Matt Steele: "Maybe it is you who does not understand !"

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    Half of N.B. home care workers to be excluded from $500 federal top-up

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    Methinks it was obvious to all that Jeff Sparks would play dumb once CBC began disabling my comments I suggested he reads before calling me back but Elizabeth Thibodeau was impressive N'esy Pas?



    https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/half-of-nb-home-care-workers-to-be.html




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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jeff-sparks-federal-essential-worker-top-up-disabilities-1.5604224



    Half of N.B. home care workers to be excluded from $500 federal top-up

    Advocates for disabled ask government to reconsider decision that ignores work of private home care workers


    Vanessa Blanch· CBC News· Posted: Jun 11, 2020 7:00 AM AT



    Jeff Sparks, seen here with his wife Heidi and their dog Toffi, worries that by not providing the $500 monthly top-up to home support workers who are employed privately, the provincial government is creating a two-tier system that will make it even more difficult to recruit home care workers. (Submitted by Jeff Sparks)

    Jeff Sparks was thrilled when he learned his home support workers would be rewarded with a $500 monthly top-up aimed at essential care givers who have continued to work throughout the pandemic.

    "It's a big deal for me because … they stayed with me during the pandemic," Sparks said of his four, full-time home care workers. "They self isolated. They took all the precautions and they really maintained my ability to be independent."

    Sparks, 45, was born with spinal muscular atrophy, a genetic disorder similar to muscular dystrophy and uses a wheel chair. He depends on his team to be able to continue to work and to live in his Quispamsis home with his wife Heidi and their "fur baby" Toffi.

    But his elation quickly evaporated when he learned this week that the Higgs government does not intend to offer the top-up to private home care workers, only to those who are employed by home care agencies.

    "It's actually quite frustrating," he said of the government decision. "This is about me standing up for the rights of my caregivers who do their best to support me."


    Jeff Sparks, centre, requires around-the-clock care. He receives funding from the Department of Social Development and manages a team of home care workers to provide that care, but none of them will qualify for the federal top-up of $500 per month. (Submitted by Jeff Sparks)

    Independent workers excluded

    In a statement, a spokesperson for the Department of Social Development said only home care workers "employed by an agency contracted or funded by the Department of Social Development" would qualify.

    It goes on to say, "the Department has no way to track independent workers who may or may not have formal training or qualifications, nor would we have any way to confirm their eligibility to the program."
     

    A statement from the office of Social Development Minister Dorothy Shephard, said the $500 top-up will be paid only to home support workers employed by agencies. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

    Sparks, who is a human resources professional, argues the assertion that Social Development has no way to track private home support workers is simply not correct.

    He manages his own care with funding provided by the Department of Social Development. Each month Sparks submits logs to government detailing who has provided care to him during the month.



    "I'm basically like an agency," Sparks said. "I get a monthly cheque deposited in my bank. I do all the payroll and at the end of each month I have each of my caregivers sign a report with how many hours they worked."

    As for questions about "formal training or qualifications," Sparks said the workers he hires are generally better trained than the average home support worker because he trains them to meet his unique medical needs.

    "I'd be more comfortable with them than I would be having someone come to me from an agency that didn't receive specific training by me."

    Private workers only option for many

    In a news release on May 20, the provincial government outlined the program that will provide a monthly top-up of approximately $500 for 16 weeks for essential front-line workers, including home support.

    This is just a major oversight.
    - Haley Flaro, Ability N.B.
    There was no mention of excluding private home support workers. The only caveat was that in order to qualify, people must earn less than $18 per hour. Sparks said all of his workers would qualify.

    He worries the government's decision will impact his ability to recruit staff, which is already "a nightmare," and said it will create "two classes of employees who do the same job."



    Haley Flaro, executive director of Ability New Brunswick, said news that private home care workers are being left out is very disappointing and raises huge concerns about inequity.


    Haley Flaro, executive director of Ability New Brunswick, estimates private home support workers make up more than half of all support workers and deserve the $500 top-up being provided by government just as much as workers employed by agencies. (CBC)

    She estimates 50 per cent of the home care funded by Social Development is performed by private workers, and calls the decision not to provide the $500 monthly top-up to everyone a "disincentive" in a province where there is already a home support worker shortage.

    "If private workers disappeared tomorrow every hospital would be overflowing, every special care home, every long term care home. Our health system would be just annihilated."
    Flaro points out that private workers are the only option for people who live in rural areas that are not served by agencies.

    Sparks said, in his experience, agencies simply don't have enough staff to serve people who require 24-hour attendant care, like him.

    Flaro said approximately 60 per cent of her clients at Ability N.B. depend on private care workers, and she hopes there is still time for the provincial government to change its mind.

    "It's creating and isolating and alienating these private workers," she said. "This is just a major oversight."

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    David Amos
    My hat is off to Jeff Sparks Perhaps he and I should talk ASAP


    Johnny Almar 
    Reply to @David Amos: get a haircut


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @David Amos: Why ? It would be a total waste of his time



    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks lot of folks must have noticed by now that you burst upon the scene immediately after Johnny "Never been Good" Horton went "Poof" N'esy Pas?

    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its obvious to me that he agrees with you because he did not bother to call me back after reading my comments as i suggested to his partner N'esy Pas?



























    Elizabeth Thibodeau
    I have a small ( 3 bed licensed) home for special needs we locked down on March 12 before gov gave the orders and have worked by myself everyday for the past three months could not take residents out in the public and have been spending twenty four hours a day keeping these people safe and healthy and spending so much extra on food & supplies and trying to keep them happy and upbeat with crafts exercise and games! I am told that with the 80 dollars a day that the governement pays for food and shelter and twenty four hour care for these special needs residents that I i also should hire staff at a cost of 15 dollars an hour out of that 80 dollars!!! ) Now am told No I do not qualify for the top up!!


    Johnny Almar 
    Reply to @Elizabeth Thibodeau: No one should be getting ‘top ups’. That being said, your line of work is way underpaid.

    NB is broke and so are the Feds. Universal Health Care is the source of the problem.

    Those that can afford it should have to pay or buy private insurance.

    Employment Insurance should be funded by individuals and employers. You only get paid what you put in.

    Fix those 2 items and there will be money available for you and others like you.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Elizabeth Thibodeau: Not sure whu you'd need to pay for extra food & supplies . And you did have them for 24 hours a day before the lockdown . And is that 80 dollars all you get per day , or is there other monies ? If that's all you get , yes it's a bit low , but if there are other monies coming in , which could be the case through families , pensions , or whatever then that's something completely different . too many times we get half stories and people are leaving out the other half which very well could be the case here !


    Theo Lavigne 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Employment Insurance is only funded by individuals and employers. Government don't put a nickle in the fun...


    David Peters 
    Reply to @Theo Lavigne:
    EI would be run better, faster and cheaper if it were done privately in a free market enviroment, imo.


    Theo Lavigne 
    Reply to @David Peters: Please explain why it would ....


    David Amos
    Reply to @Elizabeth Thibodeau: WOW Trust that you and I should talk


    David Amos
    Reply to @Elizabeth Thibodeau: You can't say that I didn't try to talk to you correct?


    David Amos
    Reply to @Elizabeth Thibodeau: Thanks for calling back to make amends


    Elizabeth Thibodeau
    Reply to @David Amos: Thank you for your words and help much appreciated David!


    Theo Lavigne 
    Reply to @Theo Lavigne: Should be fund







    Elizabeth Thibodeau
    Lou Bell to answer your question Residents went to a day program once a week and also home visits and outing for special needs) so yes i did have a breather a few hours a week! & No other income ! Hope your using more hand soap, paper towel, hand sanitizer! Sat Safe cheers! 



























    Johnny Almar
    And in other news, CBC is ignoring new policing powers that Higgs is going to legislate.

    Power to stop, frisk, card, search anyone, anywhere, anytime while under Emergency Orders.

    Papers. Can I zee your papers?


    Dan Armitage
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: sorry man only have a pipe


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks I recall you wanting to make calls to Higgy's minions in order to rat out your neighbours not long ago N'esy Pas?


    Johnny Almar 
    Reply to @David Amos: Yeah people not from around here travelling here. Nova Scotians and Ontarians to be precise.

    Right in the middle of red lockdown.

    Then there was the neighbour that had a party and they got liqoured and crashed a snowmobile through the ice resulting in a first responders rescue.

    Government did nothing to any of them. The partiers should have been at least forced to pay for the unnecessary rescue and environmental cleanup.


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Ah the effects of social media ! The world is flat too ! Right Johnny ??


    Johnny Almar
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Did you get dropped on your head again?



    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks many would agree that you two deserve each other N'esy Pas?


























    Roland Stewart
    Higgs did not want to give any of this money out from the beginning. I think his plan was to bank it for a rainy day or maybe a day on the golf course with a few friends.


    McKenzie King
    Reply to @Roland Stewart: Maybe you should watch the news occasionally. There is no money to bank. We've been operating at a deficit for years, and with this pandemic, the deficit has gone off the charts. So, pay attention and try to think of something intelligent to say based on real information.


    Roland Stewart 
    Reply to @McKenzie King: Will do Higgs lol


    David Amos
    Reply to @McKenzie King: Whose fault has it been that we have been operating at a deficit for years?


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Roland Stewart: That thought belongs on social media ! Conspiracy theories are the norm there !


    Roland Stewart 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: These are the kind of quotes we read on social media " Unlike the Liberal MLA's who take their orders from Melanson and the " Shediac 5 " ! may be where it came from.





























    Jake Quinlan
    As long as the teachers get full pay during these things....how many millions in total salary went to teachers from March to June to teachers and guidance councilors not doing anything.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Jake Quinlan: Good point



























    David News
    Complete joke. Another bureaucrat trying to save money on the backs of the working class.
    All they need to do is query their databases to see who receives home-care support funding, correlate the expense report filings and presto you have a list of private home care providers.
    Not difficult to do, unless you motivation is not to spend the $


    David Amos 
    Reply to @David News: Welcome back to Higgy's Circus


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: " Methinks SURPRISE ! SURPRISE ! Higgy's Circus , Love Butter Tarts Martha ! "


























    David Peters
    Once again, politicizing healthcare is a very bad idea, imo.
      
    David Amos
    Reply to @David Peters: Of course


























    Graeme Scott
    Why is the Dept of Social Development can't seem to get anything right?


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Graeme Scott: Thinks about the money then go figure























    Dave Corbin
    Social Development gets it wrong...again. It really is rocket science.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: Nope it all about the money and who gets it


























    doug kirby
    What’s wrong with this picture...just this week they put out a plea of help from anyone willing to help at the long term care home in Campbellton...it’s specifically said no training required as you will be shown when you get there.....no training ever shows how to have a heart and compassion and willing to help. How home support workers could even been thought of being excluded I agree they want the money for themselves...ms.sheppard seems only ever concerned in the almighty dollar.. these workers allow people to remain at home with one on one care which is way better than any hospital or facility out there....NB should be ashamed


    Dan Armitage
    Reply to @doug kirby: definitely dropping the ball on this one. It's a very poor excuse why they exclude these home care workers equal work equal pay!


    doug kirby 
    Reply to @Dan Armitage: they purposely did that ...that man I swear is going to ruin everything good about NB


    David Amos
    Reply to @doug kirby: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir 

























     

    Kevin Archibald
    Maybe if that CERB racket wasn't set up so badly, that so much fraud could be committed so easily, there would have been enough money to go around to those who actually needed it. Right from the start that system was ripe for the picking. Even dead people, and inmates were getting this.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Kevin Archibald: Who do we thank for that?


    Repair Guy
    Reply to @Kevin Archibald: And if people receiving money they don't deserve returned it there wouldn't be a problem either. If the federal government had gone through the regular check and balances machinations it would have been September before those needing it would have seen relief and people would be screaming bloody murder about that. 

























     

    Toby Tolly
    Trudeau is giving too much cash away
    cant wait for that exciting tax increase to occur
    after the next election of course


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Toby Tolly: I can wait


    James Smythe
    Reply to @Toby Tolly: It won’t be tax increased, it’ll be paid for with inflation; the silent wage killer but far more popular political policy decision, since people don’t see it as a source deduction on their paychecks.


    James Edward 
    Reply to @Toby Tolly: we are in big trouble 
     


























    Matt Steele
    Yep , FREE MONEY for everyone . Welcome to Trudeau's Canada where free money for everyone rains from the skies ; meanwhile the federal deficit spins wildly out of control as it heads towards the TRILLION dollar mark . Sadly , in another year or so , Canadians will end up being taxed into the stone age as the Canadian economy goes into a full recession.... all thanks to Trudeau for trying to buy people's votes with " supposedly " free money .


    James Edward 
    Reply to @Matt Steele: it's going to be bad.


    David Peters
    Reply to @Matt Steele:
    Another cbc article is saying that central bankers can print and spend as much $ as they want(paraphrasing)...but, the obvious questions just were not asked, imo.


    David Amos
    Reply to @James Edward: It already is


    James Edward 
    Reply to @David Amos: correction, it's going to get worse.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @James Edward: YUP


    Bill Hamilton
    Reply to @Matt Steele:"Taxed into the stone age" will only apply to those who are working, not those living off of social programs . Too bad there are more and more living off of social programs.


    Jeff Leblanc
    Reply to @Matt Steele: so no stimulus for anyone? Should have just left them to fend for themselves? Or did you have a better plan where money is given out but in less quantities? Or last but least was just this you taking a potshot at JT?



























    Theo Lavigne
    Higgs better saves some money. Dr Ngola is coming after him, and we are all going to pay for this one, good for the Dr.


    Jeff Leblanc  
    Reply to @Theo Lavigne: you mean the unprofessional, arrogant, ignorant, unapologetic Doctor who spread Covid by not following simple instructions? Oh for sure he should sue for millions. It's not his fault at all right?



    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Theo Lavigne: Ya gotta love the circus


    Theo Lavigne 
    Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Can you prove he spread the virus? I didn't think so and neither can Higgs 

    ....
    Jeff Leblanc 
    Reply to @Theo Lavigne: and you can't prove he didn't. Therefore no apology will be coming, regardless if he spread it, he violated numerous protocols and ethics. He is owed nothing but a stern talking to by anyone he encounters for the rest of his days.


    Theo Lavigne 
    Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: He said he can prove he didn't spread it, that's good enough for me.


    Jeff Leblanc 
    Reply to @Theo Lavigne: oh well if he said it then it must be true. And to think all this time all he had to do was just deny it. I never thought of that angle. You are onto something Theo. Maybe you should run for office.

































    George Smith
    There is always some one left behind when Government introduces these programs. And usually it's people who need the programs most. That's how Government thinks and works. They're the ones who set up the systems that leave many behind and then flout it as a wonderful advance in government action. Groups have political clout individuals don't.


    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @George Smith: So why make fun of my concerns?

    George Smith
    Reply to @David Amos: I don't know what you mean and more important I really don't care.





























    George Smith
    Talk of suits by those who don't want to observe the rules is premature. I doubt any one will win a court case. The public good argument will supersede all of them. We sometimes think we are American because of the many American media stories and entertainment shows. In fact Canada in not based on individual rights but on the premise of Law and Order.

    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @George Smith: Did you forget why I appealed a decision made in my favour??? 



    https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/news/news_release.2017.04.0422.html

    News Release

    Premier’s Council on Disabilities

    New member named to Premier’s Council on the Status of Disabled Persons

    04 April 2017FREDERICTON (GNB) – Michèle Ouellette of Edmundston will join the Premier’s Council on the Status of Disabled Persons.
    “Michèle will bring significant value to the council,” said council chair Jeff Sparks. “She is a strong voice for those in the northwest, and an advocate for healthy living and community inclusion.”
    Ouellette joins current council members:
    • Jeff Sparks, Quispamsis, chair;
    • Andrew Daley, Green Mountain, vice-president;
    • Linda Ferrier, Fredericton, treasurer;
    • Noëlla Hébert, Saint-Louis-de-Kent, secretary;
    • Sheila Rogers, Bathurst;
    • Christine Evans, Saint John;
    • Michael George, Saint John;
    • Cheryl LeBlanc, Shediac;
    • Dawn Stevens, Fredericton;
    • Amelia Barry, Rothesay;
    • Marc LeBlanc, Beresford;
    • Brent MacPherson, Fredericton; and
    • John Wood, Oromocto.
    The council meets four times a year in addition to other public meetings. It advises on matters relating to the status of persons with a disability; brings before the provincial government and the public matters of interest and concern to persons with a disability; promotes employment opportunities of persons with a disability; and supports access by persons with a disability to all services offered to New Brunswickers.
     


    https://www.nbpihcinetwork.ca/jeff-sparks

    Jeff Sparks is the National Director of Volunteer Engagement and Organizational Development with Muscular Dystrophy Canada. 

    He is a quadriplegic and relies on 24 hour attendant care, which he manages himself, for all physical activities of daily living. Diagnosed at 10 months of age with Spinal Muscular Atrophy Type 2, he was not supposed to live past the age of 2 years old. 40 years later, there is no slowing him down.
    Jeff works full time. In his current Senior Management role, Jeff coordinates corporate and board governance, as well as volunteer engagement and service delivery at a national level, and has managed strategic initiatives related to website, strategic planning and national conferences.

     Furthermore, Jeff raises awareness of what it is like to live with a neuromuscular disorder, raising funds for the Mission and striving daily to engage others in the work of Muscular Dystrophy Canada. Outside of work, Jeff is a role model and advocate for those with disabilities. He is Chairperson of the Premier's Council on the Status of Disabled Persons and Past President of the Saint John Ability Advisory Committee, a municipal advisory committee which has had several accomplishments under his leadership including implementing an accessible sidewalk policy, enhancing the Para-transit system, training city staff on working with people with disabilities, organizing activities for Disability Awareness Week and advocating for change for several people with disabilities.

    Jeff has also advocated on his own behalf for 24 hour attendant care and met with government officials on several occasions for other disability issues. He is also not afraid to speak with the media in order to make his community more inclusive. Jeff has been identified as one of New Brunswick’s 21 Leaders for the 21st Century, attended the Governor General’s Canadian Leadership Conference and has been the recipient of the Terry Fox Humanitarian Award, NB Disability Awareness Week Award and the YM/YWCA Leader to watch.

    Related to research, Jeff has acted as the National Director, Research, Programs and Services at Muscular Dystrophy Canada where he supported the National Medical and Scientific Advisory Committee and Granting Programs. Both Jeff and Muscular Dystrophy Canada are interested in research related to finding a cure as well as improving quality of life. Jeff is particularly interested in Research related to Community Health Needs, Interprofessional Collaboration and improving the Patient’s experience.

    Jeff enjoys life to the fullest, including Caribbean cruises and spending time with his wife Heidi.
    Jeff Sparks
    National Director, Volunteer Engagement and Organizational Development




    https://www.jenniferpowerscott.com/jeff-sparks-story



    SPARKS OF INSPIRATION

    By Jennifer Power Scott

                When Heidi Sparks looks at her husband, there’s one thing she doesn’t see: his disability.
                “From the first time I met Jeff, I never saw him in his wheelchair,” says Heidi, who emigrated from Germany to Canada in 2014 to start married life in southern New Brunswick.  “We had conversation, we started talking to each other and built up a friendship.”
                The couple’s love story plays out like a 21st-century episode of The Love Boat.  Jeff Sparks and Heidi Schenk met aboard the Explorer of the Seas cruise ship in 2013 and became friends. When the cruise ended, they spent months getting to know each other via Facebook and Skype. And then, exactly a year after they met, they were married in Heidi’s hometown of Koblenz, Germany. They now live in Quispamsis, a suburb of Saint John.
                “I get a lot of questions,” Heidi says. “People asking me the stupidest questions, like, ‘Can you have a normal life?’ And I say, ‘Why?  Why is there a question?’ After they have known him, they see what is possible. We do almost everything other couples do. … Of course, sometimes we are limited, but we find a way to take off that limit.”
                Jeff has been breaking limits for most of his 42 years. He graduated near the top of his Bachelor of Business Administration class at the University of New Brunswick in Saint John in 1996 and went on to earn a master’s degree in industrial relations from the University of Toronto. He’s a senior executive with Muscular Dystrophy Canada and a former chair of the Premier’s Council on Disabilities.  He volunteers with several organizations, including PRUDE Inc., the Human Resources Association of New Brunswick and the Saint John Ability Advisory Committee.
                All of that from someone the doctors said wouldn’t live past the age of two.
                “When I was ten months old, my parents noticed I wasn’t turning or moving like a normal baby would,” he says. “They took me to the doctor. They ran a bunch of tests, including two muscle biopsies.” 
                After Jeff had been in the hospital for two weeks, his mother, Sharon Sparks, couldn’t wait for answers any longer.  She phoned a doctor – and was told Jeff had spinal muscular atrophy (SMA), a rare genetic disorder that affects muscle control.
                “The doctor said he would be lucky to see his second birthday,” says Sharon, her voice breaking with emotion at the memory of that life-changing phone call. “It was pretty devastating. … So many nights, I thought of him dying and planned funerals.  Never did I dream I would have Jeffrey to be 43 this year.”
                The doctors were right about the SMA.  But they thought he had Type 1, the most severe form.  In fact, he had SMA Type 2.
                “I turned two,” Jeff says, “and guess what?”
                Jeff never walked, but he could feed himself and write as a little kid, and he had his first motorized wheelchair by the age of five. When it was time to enrol in school, his parents were told he would be placed in a special needs class.  In those days, he says, it was known as the ‘C.P. program’ – short for cerebral palsy. 
                “It was basically a place where kids with disabilities could go and sit all day and colour and not learn,” he says. “My parents knew that I had no intellectual challenges, so they, with their friends and family, fought and fought and fought the school board.”
                That determination paid off. In grade one, Jeff was in the regular classroom at M. Gerald Teed School in Saint John. With the help of a full-time educational assistant, he learned, played and reached his academic potential.     
                “There would have been no future for him in that (special needs) program,” Sharon says. “Jeff was very bright … and very willing to learn.”
                Later, at Saint John High School, Jeff was a grad class rep and a member of the yearbook committee, and he performed in a production of Grease. His assistant – the same woman who had been with him since grade one – did his notetaking in class, while his mother helped with homework.  Among more than 300 graduates in the Class of ’92, Jeff was in the top ten. 
                Still, it wasn’t always easy being a teenaged boy who couldn’t drive a car or swagger up the sidewalks.  
                  “When I was a teenager and a young man, some of the guy feelings starting to kick in, and I was a little jealous of the other guys,” he says.  “That was a little frustrating.  But I’m very good at focussing on what I have and not what I don’t have.”
                For Jeff, a turning point was landing his first job.  At 16, he was hired as a counsellor at Camp Rotary, which offers programs for kids with physical, developmental and learning disabilities amid the stunning scenery of Sunnyside Beach.  He worked there for six summers. 
                “To me, the paycheque wasn’t the big thing,” he says. “It was the independence.  I got away. I didn’t have my parents there to care for me, so I needed to learn how to manage my own life, direct my own care.  And I got to live the life of a teenager. So, on my days off, I was sneaking into the bars in Fredericton and doing the things that a so-called ‘normal’ teenager would be doing.” 
                Jeff started his degree at UNB Saint John the year he finished high school.  On campus, he was known as a high-energy person who served on student council and an ability advisory committee.  But although he graduated near the top of his class, he couldn’t find a job.
                “I spent a year looking for work,” he says. “No luck, despite the fact that I had an amazing resume. Back in the early 90s, businesses just couldn’t see past my disability. They saw the wheelchair.”
                Finally, in 1997, Jeff was offered a job with Andersen Consulting, the multi-billion-dollar international company now known as Accenture. 
                There was just one catch: The job was in Toronto.
                 “It was a little scary being halfway across the country from my family and my friends,” he says. “But luckily, one of my attendants at the time was looking to make a change in his life. So, he packed and moved with me.”
                When it came to employment equity and open-mindedness toward people with disabilities, Jeff found Toronto was far ahead of the rest of the country.  He says Andersen Consulting even covered the $100,000-a-year cost of his 24-hour care.
                “At the end of the day, (Andersen) saw my potential, which is the most important thing,” Jeff says. “They also recognized that it was their responsibility to have a diverse workforce.”
                But not everyone in the company was welcoming. One day, Jeff’s caregiver said something during a meeting.  An employee looked at the caregiver and said, “I thought you were just the paid hands and feet.”
                Offended, Jeff had to set her straight.
                “What you’re saying is inappropriate,” he told her. “I need this person. And they’re a person too.  I don’t think of my caregivers as being hands and feet for me. They’re a part of my life.”
                Jeff stayed with the company for four-and-a-half years, completing his master’s degree at U of T in his off hours. 
                “Achievement is very important to me,” he says. “I want people to see that I have the potential to go above and beyond expectations. I also knew it was important to my career – that if I wanted to advance, I had to have the highest level of education possible.”
                In 2001, Jeff’s near-idyllic big city life fell apart. The company downsized, and he was laid off. After six fruitless months of searching for work in the Big Smoke, he says he had no choice but to go home to Saint John.
                “I moved from being totally independent in a fully-accessible apartment … to having to move back in with my parents,” he says. “So that was difficult for all of us.  Big shift. I spent about three or four years after that looking for work.” 
                Jeff found temporary contracts with UNB Saint John, the New Brunswick Community College and a human resources management company, and he started a couple of small businesses along the way. Then, in 2005, he heard about a job opening with Muscular Dystrophy Canada, which works to enhance the lives of people with neuromuscular disorders. At the time, he was a volunteer member of the organization’s national board of directors. 
                “I resigned from the board, applied for the job, and was successful,” he says.  “And I’ve been there ever since. … I live with the disease, so I know personally the benefits of what the organization does. But seeing the impact that it has on other families, systems, governments and professionals really is what makes me proud of my work.”
                Jeff works at an office in his modern, sprawling bungalow on Minstrel Drive.  As Muscular Dystrophy Canada’s National Director of Volunteer Engagement and Organizational Development, he has full-time hours and a flexible schedule.  He manages his own 24-hour care, and employees do his keyboarding and some other tasks.
                But while Jeff enjoys the convenience of working from home, his job requires him to travel several times a year.  Flying with a custom-built motorized wheelchair that cost $55,000 can be an ordeal.
                “I am very conscious about it getting broken,” he says. “I have had significant damage flying in the past. So when we travel, I take two caregivers with me. We take everything off my wheelchair that can break, pack it up in a big Tupperware container, put it in baggage with my chair.”
                On top of that, Jeff has to endure uncomfortable airport wheelchairs as he goes through security and boards airplanes.   Still, giving up travelling is not an option. 
                “Number one – I know it’s important for my job,” he says. “And it gets me out. I love seeing the world.”
                 Jeff travels not just for work, but for fun too.  He has been on five cruises, his “vacation of choice” because of the superb wheelchair accessibility on ships. When he boarded the Explorer of the Seas in New York City with his mother, brother, two caregivers and his brother’s girlfriend four years ago, he couldn’t have guessed he was about to meet his future wife.  
                 Heidi, who was aboard that ship to celebrate her fortieth birthday, calls her husband a fighter.
                “I think that’s his personality,” she says. “If he has an idea, he makes it happen. That’s how he was raised, with all the attention in his family, especially his mother and dad. That’s what he’s fighting for. Everybody has a chance to live a normal, independent life.”
                Jeff says he likes the way Heidi doesn’t see his wheelchair – and he wants others to be more like her.        
                “It’s not the disability, he says, “It’s the person. I’m not a disabled person. I’m a person with a disability. And the disability is only part of who I am. And I have the same needs, wants, desires, feelings as somebody who’s not in a wheelchair.”
                As for his future, Jeff is continuing to build his career as a senior executive – and he’s considering running for provincial or federal office one day.  For him, the key to success is being optimistic and persistent.
                 “A lot of people give up when they face great challenges, and they think it’s not worth the energy,” he says. “But if my parents didn’t put the effort into me being the engaged citizen that I am today, I wouldn’t be where I am.”



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    Patients travelling for N.B. medical care don't have to self isolate, including N.S. top doctor

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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/robert-strang-self-isolation-medical-care-new-brunswick-border-1.5608489

    Patients travelling for N.B. medical care don't have to self isolate, including N.S. top doctor

    Patients don't face 14-day self-isolation, but there are still rules to follow



    Hadeel Ibrahim· CBC News· Posted: Jun 11, 2020 6:16 PM AT



    During a news briefing Wednesday, Dr. Robert Strang said he would be travelling to New Brunswick for a minor surgical procedure Thursday and that he would be self-isolating for 14 days upon his return to Nova Scotia. (CBC)


    Nova Scotia's chief medical officer of health is travelling to New Brunswick for a medical procedure not available in his province, but he won't have to self-isolate when he arrives.

    New Brunswick's borders have been closed to unnecessary travel for months, but they've never been closed to people coming in to receive medical care. All medical travellers are also exempt from the mandatory 14-day self-isolation period, but it doesn't mean they're set free once they cross the border.

    Provincial spokesperson Bruce McFarlane said patients coming in from another province must travel directly to and from the hospital or to their accommodations.


    They are required to self-monitor and avoid contact with vulnerable individuals, he said in an email.
    Geri Geldart, vice-president clinical of Horizon Health Network, said the hospitals also communicate with each travelling patient.

    "Patients are also provided with instructions specific to the service they'll be receiving in advance of their scheduled appointments," she said.

    Dr. Robert Strang said he was travelling to New Brunswick on Thursday for a surgery to check on the margins of skin cancer he'd previously had removed.

    "That type of surgery is not yet available in Nova Scotia," he said.

    This means he'll be self-isolating for 14 days when he returns to Nova Scotia, he said, and working from home.

    Elective surgery backlog

    When the COVID-19 outbreak began in New Brunswick, Horizon put a hold on all elective surgeries. Once the province moved to the orange phase of recovery, services were slowly reinstated.

    The network restarted elective surgeries, with a focus on people whose surgeries were cancelled because of COVID-19. In mid-May, when recovery began, the backlog was about approximately 15,000 patients.

    On Thursday, Geldart said there are 14,575 people on the surgical wait list. Vitalité Health Network couldn't provide this information by publication time.

    She said over the last week, hospitals completed 98 per cent of their regular surgical volume.
    Horizon is still resuming priority elective surgeries, and it's also reopened outpatient clinics, diagnostic imaging and laboratory services for high-urgency cases, "by appointment only," Geldart said.

    "The vast majority of services are functioning in some capacity, with added precautions in place," she said.

    People coming from out-of-province — and people from health zones that are deemed to have an outbreak — are treated differently in hospital, Geldart said. The patient is kept in isolation in a private room and staff follow enhanced personal protective equipment precautions.



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    David Amos
    Methinks CBC made another major faux pas today N'esy Pas?










    David Amos
    Reply to @David Sampson: "Care to retract your comment?"

    NOPE  










    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Methinks Geri Geldart, vice-president clinical of Horizon Health Network should pull my file then ask her boss and the lawyer Ted Flemming why I am preparing to sue Horizon N'esy Pas? 

















    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Methinks special people always get special treatment N'esy Pas?
     
     
    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: BTW Methinks somebody should tell Higgy et all that i just got another bill from the emergency room for services that should be FREE N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Alex Matheson
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Whats with the N'esy Pas bit David?
     
     
    David Sampson
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Dr. Strang has confirmed that although he is not obligated to self isolation upon his return he intends to do so.

    Care to retract your comment?
     
     
    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Sampson: NOPE























    SarahRose Werner
    Anyone besides me surprised and tickled to learn that there are medical procedures we do here in New Brunswick that aren't available in other provinces? I'm more used to hearing about people from NB going *to* other provinces to get procedures done.


    David Webb NB
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: My first thought was why is he coming from Halifax to Moncton for something. Surprises are still to be had. :)
     
     
    Ben Hague
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: NB definitely has it's positives besides Magnetic Hill.
     
     
    Michael Smith
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: It's available in NS until normal conditions, however those types of procedures are not yet available , under current public health guidelines in NS.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: NOPE


























    Bill Vasseur
    Another one who says " do as I say not as I do"


    Alex Matheson 
    Reply to @Bill Vasseur:
    That simply isn't true. Strang is following all of the rules and guidelines.
     
     
    Mike Williams
    Reply to @Bill Vasseur: What???
     
     
    Michael Smith
    Reply to @Bill Vasseur: Hard time with comprehension? NB doesn't require isolation for people getting medical treatments. HOWEVER , he goes into 14 days isolation once he returns to NS.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Bill Vasseur: YUP
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Alex Matheson: Whats with the N'esy Pas bit David?

    Methinks it should be Mr Amos to you because we are not friends and you clearly don't like my use of Chiac N'esy Pas?


























    Glen Roberts
    Why not?


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Glen Roberts: Because they'd have to rent a hotel room or something for a 14-day period before they could have their medical procedure. For a lot of people, this would be a significant barrier to having the procedure done at all. We're trying to protect people's health, not make it worse.
     
     
    David Amos 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks your hero Higgy enjoys watching his minions sending bills for my Health Care N'esy Pas?



     





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    Shale gas protesters react in disbelief to watchdog findings

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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/rcmp-commission-rexton-shale-gas-protesters-1.5608902

    Shale gas protesters react in disbelief to watchdog findings

    RCMP commission finds no bias against Indigenous protesters, no excessive force used in 2013 Rexton raids


    Rachel Cave· CBC News· Posted: Jun 12, 2020 6:00 AM AT







    Jimmy Pictou Jr. is gripped by a police officer during the shale gas protests in Rexton in 2013. An RCMP oversight commission found police officers did not use excessive force or exhibit bias against Indigenous protesters. (Submitted/Miles Howe)


    Lorraine Clair, who reported being "brutalized" by the RCMP in 2013 while protesting against shale gas development on unceded Miꞌkmaq territory in Kent County, says she's appalled an investigation into public complaints against the police has concluded the Mounties did not use excessive force or demonstrate bias against Indigenous protesters. 

    "I just wanted to vomit," said Clair, who had told her story to investigators.

    "It's like they're saying that we're lying and that none of this actually happened — that we didn't get thrown to the ground, we didn't get beaten, we didn't get racial slurs thrown at us."

















    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 10:12:16 -0300
    Subject: Fwd: Re Anti Frackers etc Interesting lawsuits EH Teddy
    Fleming??? Should I intervene or just run for public office AGAIN
    To: marc_bernard@live.com, marcelwhite1987@gmail.com,
    dallasmcquarrie@gmail.com, grammawilli@gmail.com,
    lorrainetootoo4life@gmail.com, pmoist <pmoist@cupe.ca>, COCMoncton
    < COCMoncton@gmail.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
    inrexton2013@yahoo.ca, jimemberger@yahoo.com, "peter.dauphinee"
    < peter.dauphinee@gmail.com>
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "bruce.northrup"
    < bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, "roger.l.brown"
    < roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "john.warr"<john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

    http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/06/your-buddy-elvis-of-swn-and-you-should.html

    http://www.ernstversusencana.ca/22-community-groups-and-three-citizens-sue-new-brunswick-government-over-future-of-fracing-statement-of-claim-alleges-charter-of-rights-and-freedoms-violations

    For more information, contact NBASGA Spokespersons:
    Jim Emberger – (English)
    Tel: (506) 440-4255
    Email: jimemberger@yahoo.com

    Denise Melanson (French)
    Tel: 506-523-9467
    Email: inrexton2013@yahoo.ca

    https://nbharbinger.wordpress.com/2014/06/24/moncton-fracking-suit/

    Lorraine Clair (506) 523-8291 <lorrainetootoo4life@gmail.com>
    Marcel White (506) 785-4660 <marcelwhite1987@gmail.com>
    Marc Bernard (Français) (506) 875-6364 <marc_bernard@live.com>
    Dallas McQuarrie 506-876-4431<dallasmcquarrie@gmail.com>
    Willi Nolan  (506) 785-4660 <grammawilli@gmail.com>

    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 10:20:33 -0300
    Subject: Fwd: Re Anti Frackers etc Interesting lawsuits EH Teddy
    Fleming??? Should I intervene or just run for public office AGAIN
    To: larc@sasktel.net
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

    http://www.noshalegasnb.ca/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Statement-of-Claim-website-version.pdf

    Kowalchuk Law Office
    Business Address: 101 – 2222 Albert Street
    Regina, Saskatchewan S4P 2V2
    Telephone: (306) 522-2606
    Fax: (306) 522-2608
    Email: larc@sasktel.net


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:32:37 -0300
    Subject: Re Anti Frackers etc Interesting lawsuits EH Teddy Fleming???
    Should I intervene or just run for public office AGAIN
    To: larrykowalchuk@kowalchuklaw.ca, dan.murphy@nbliberal.ca,
    "mckeen.randy"<mckeen.randy@gmail.com>, "mclaughlin.heather"
    < mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>,
    "david.alward"<david.alward@gnb.ca>, swnnb@swn.com, upriverwatch
    < upriverwatch@gmail.com>, mboling <mboling@swn.com>, "Davidc.Coon"
    < Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>, info <info@coalitionavenirquebec.org>, pknoll
    < pknoll@corridor.ca>, "Frank.McKenna"<Frank.McKenna@td.com>,
    oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, almabrooks26
    < almabrooks26@hotmail.com>, sallybrooks25 <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>,
    info <info@gg.ca>, COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>, markandcaroline
    < markandcaroline@gmail.com>, willi <willi@iicph.org>,
    "Bernard.Valcourt.c1"<Bernard.Valcourt.c1@parl.gc.ca>,
    "roger.l.brown"<roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "John.Williamson"
    < John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, "john.logan"<john.logan@gnb.ca>,
    sunrayzulu <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, premier
    < premier@gnb.ca>, Brian Gallant <briangallant@nbliberal.ca>
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca,
    pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, ddesserud <ddesserud@upei.ca>, ddarrow
    < ddarrow@gov.ns.ca>

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/peoples-lawsuit-launched-over-shale-gas-1.2688739

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/anti-shale-gas-group-suing-new-brunswick-government-1.2684758

    http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/06/your-buddy-elvis-of-swn-and-you-should.html

    http://kowalchuklaw.ca/staff.html

    Larry Kowalchuk
    Lawyer

    LLB, BA

    (306) 522-2606
    larrykowalchuk@kowalchuklaw.ca


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 05:09:05 -0300
    Subject: Whilst Matty Baby Hayes enjoys his summer days with Tracy and
    Chucky Dr Anthony R Ingraffea's sabbatic leave should be over and
    maybe he will read my emails now EH Ms Linke?
    To: linkejul@gmail.com, ari1@cornell.edu, news@kingscorecord.com,
    concernedcitizensofpenobsquis@yahoo.ca, ralph.carr@sussex.ca,
    mhayes@stu.ca, andre@jafaust.com, markandcaroline@gmail.com
    Cc: t.wishart@banfrackingnb.ca, jlpdev@nbnet.nb.ca,
    kirk.macdonald@gnb.ca, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
    bruce.northrup@gnb.ca

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWPd9ihOfdU&feature=player_embedded#!

    http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/2012/05/fredericton-mayoral-candidate-matthew_21.html

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:27:57 -0300
    Subject: I tried to call Mayor "Sonny" about Fracking, Money,
    Municipal elections and Public Corruption
    To: marilyn.price@nb.aibn.com

    He never called me back Perhaps his unnamed laywer should answer me in
    writing now?

    http://www.doaktown.com/village-office/village-staff

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:20:05 -0300
    Subject: I just called about Fracking, Money, Municipal elections and
    Public Corruption
    To: acimediagroup@nb.aibn.com
    Cc: mhayes <mhayes@stu.ca>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, markandcaroline
    < markandcaroline@gmail.com>

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2012/04/26/nb-shale-gas-doaktown-debate-632.html

    Thursday April 26, 2012
    Doaktown elections
    Posted by Kevin Shaw

    Stan Donovan was certain candidates for office in Doaktown would be
    eager to share their views on all issues at a public forum, then he
    ran into fracking.

    STANLEY M DONOVAN
    (506) 365-7860

    Doaktown,  NB

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2012/04/26/nb-bathurst-mayoral-race.html

    James Risdon.
    1050 Smith Street.
    Bathurst, New Brunswick.
    E2A 3V2.
    (506) 545-7192
    acimediagroup@nb.aibn.com



    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:01:21 -0300
    Subject: RE Windsor Energy Didn't I say i smelled something and that I
    am big on family names especially big family names
    To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Cc: maritme_malaise <maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca>

    Just so ya know here two Robert Jones' one as you know works for CBC
    and the other is a VP of Transcana in charge of the Keystone Pipeline
    Project. One thinks he is a Gas Guru merely because he copied how a
    Newfy Taxi driver calculated the price of gas by watching the prices
    of oil in the Big Apple. One thinks he knows everthing but still
    checks my work for scoops and the other does know who I am if only
    because of my conversations with.

    http://gasandoil.blogspot.com/2007/06/go-light-on-golden-stuff-gasoline-to.html

    This is too sick and sad and funny at the same time. Pissed off folks
    have lots to say but not one of them will listen to me.

    Just wait until Windsor or SWN or Petroworth or who cause something
    like this to happen in "The Place to BE". Your name will be Mudd then
    N'esy Pas? Wereas you retend to be mad at your buddies in Windsor
    lately for the benefit of Ralphy Carr and the nasty little liberal
    bastard Mark Wright please enjoy not reading this email. However rest
    assured other folks here there and everywhere will sooner or later. It
    appears that some people ithin the Occupy whatever crowd are begining
    to check my work.

    http://www.earthworksaction.org/clarkwyoming.cfm

    http://ruffinprevost.posterous.com/blowout-prompting-closer-look-at-windsor-ener

    http://www.earthworksaction.org/PR_ClarkWindsor.cfm

    http://www.facebook.com/BanFrackingNB/posts/212676968797881



    There is more to Windsor than just Water and Gas. These folks are
    pissed about the SAND they take from them.

    http://www.everythingredwing.com/nosand/

    Another funny part is the Yankees discovered the folks in Norton that
    Windsor pissed off last year. Yet I bet one group does not have the
    first clue about the other even though they have a common foe and that
    foe's lawyers know everything about all of them except who the hell we
    are.

    http://www.everythingredwing.com/nosand/blog/?p=97

    This research by ordinary Yankee folk is interesting and informative
    but they get stuck on Steven E. West

    http://www.everythingredwing.com/nosand/Who_Is_Windsor_Permian.htm

    Their findings about Windsor Energy LLC being by controlled by Wexford
    is correct and supported by a SEC filing. However the big daddies
    Shell and Windsor Energy Group are mentioned as well.

    http://www.faqs.org/sec-filings/110314/GULFPORT-ENERGY-CORP_10-K/

    The Permian Basin area covers a significant portion of western Texas
    and eastern New Mexico and is considered one of the major producing
    basins in the United States. The terrain in the Permian Basin is
    semi-arid mesquite-mixed grassland steppe. Windsor Energy LLC, an
    entity controlled by Wexford, is the operator of this field.


    The availability of a ready market for any oil and/or natural gas we
    produce depends on numerous factors beyond the control of our
    management, including but not limited to the demand for oil and
    natural gas and the level of domestic production and imports of oil,
    the proximity and capacity of gas pipelines, the availability of
    skilled labor, materials and equipment, the effect of state and
    federal regulation of oil and natural gas production and federal
    regulation of gas sold in interstate commerce. The oil and natural gas
    we produce in Louisiana is sold to purchasers who service the areas
    where our wells are located. We sell the majority of our oil to Shell
    Trading Company, or Shell. Shell takes custody of the oil at the
    outlet from our oil storage barge. Our production from WCBB, other
    than the production sold under forward sales contracts, is being sold
    in accordance with the Shell posted price for West Texas/New Mexico
    Intermediate crude plus or minus Platt’s trade month average P+ value,
    plus or minus the Platt’s HLS/WTI trade month average differential
    less $2.70 per barrel for transportation. During 2010, we sold 75% and
    19% of our oil production to Shell and Windsor Energy Group, the
    operator of our Permian wells, respectively, and 50%, 32%, and 10% of
    our natural gas production to Windsor Energy Group, Chevron and
    Hilcorp Energy Company, respectively. During 2009, we sold 92% and 7%
    of our oil production to Shell and Windsor Energy Group, the operator
    of our Permian wells, respectively, and 45%, 38%, and 16% of our
    natural gas production to Windsor Energy Group, Chevron and Hilcorp
    Energy Company, respectively. During 2008, we sold 87% of our oil
    production to Shell and 11% to Windsor Energy Group, 100% of our
    natural gas liquids production to Windsor Energy Group, and 60%, 22%,
    and 16% of our natural gas production to Chevron, Windsor Energy
    Group, and Hilcorp Energy Company, respectively. We may not continue
    to have ready access to suitable markets for our future oil and
    natural gas production.

    Oil and natural gas prices can be extremely volatile and are subject
    to substantial seasonal, political and other fluctuations. The price
    at which the oil and natural gas we produce may be sold is uncertain
    and it is possible that under some market conditions the production
    and sale of oil and natural gas from some or all of our properties may
    not be economical. Because of all of the factors influencing the price
    of oil and natural gas, it is impossible to accurately predict future
    prices.

    To mitigate the effects of commodity price fluctuations, we were party
    to forward sales contracts for the sale of 3,000 barrels of WCBB
    production per day at a weighted average daily price of $54.81 per
    barrel, before transportation costs and differentials, for the period
    January 2010 through February 2010. For the period March 2010 through
    December 2010, we were party to forward sales contracts for the sale
    of 2,300 barrels of WCBB production per day at a weighted average
    daily price of $58.24 per barrel before transportation costs and
    differentials. We delivered approximately 45% of our 2010 production
    under these agreements.

    In November 2010, we entered into fixed price swaps for 2,000 barrels
    of oil per day at a weighted average price of $86.96 per barrel,
    before transportation costs and differentials, for the period January
    2011 through December 2011. Under the 2011 contracts, we have
    committed to deliver approximately 30% to 33% of our estimated 2011
    production. Such arrangements may expose us to risk of financial loss
    in certain circumstances, including instances where production is less
    than expected or oil prices increase. These forward sales contacts and
    fixed price swaps are accounted for as cash flow hedges and recorded
    at fair value pursuant to FASB ASC 815, “Derivatives and Hedging,” and
    related pronouncements.

    Wexford Capital LP
    Wexford Plaza
    411 West Putnam Avenue
    Greenwich, CT 06830

    So how about this House of Windsor?

    http://www.iapscience.com/etess_en.php

    Interesting bunch

    http://www.iapscience.com/directors_en.php

    Check the Board of Directors of these dudes too

    http://www.meconsult.co.uk/



    Small wonder the Kalid Amin the local Chief Cook and bottlewasher for
    Windsor with the Saudi sounding name talks so snobish about how well
    heeled the big money dudes are behind him. Perhaps there is a reason
    why the ROYAL cops are guarding  and his cohorts' assets. It looks to
    mean old me they are guarding the Queen's arse too.

    http://www.cbc.ca/informationmorningfredericton/2011/10/20/windsor-energys-ceo/

    However this dude is the most interesting of all. Who said dead men
    don't tell tales?

    Sir David Gore Booth, (deceased 2004) Chairman of the Windsor Energy
    Group was a Foreign Office high-flier who was a colourful Ambassador
    to Saudi Arabia and High Commissioner in India. His time in Saudi
    Arabia had introduced him to the Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking
    Corporation (HSBC), which managed the Saudi British Bank. They invited
    him to join the group as special adviser to the chairman. He took to
    his new career with zeal and aptitude and was soon on the board of
    several of the group's affiliates, travelling widely and often to
    various meetings.

    http://www.faqs.org/sec-filings/110314/GULFPORT-ENERGY-CORP_10-K/

    The Permian Basin area covers a significant portion of western Texas
    and eastern New Mexico and is considered one of the major producing
    basins in the United States. The terrain in the Permian Basin is
    semi-arid mesquite-mixed grassland steppe. Windsor Energy LLC, an
    entity controlled by Wexford, is the operator of this field.


    The availability of a ready market for any oil and/or natural gas we
    produce depends on numerous factors beyond the control of our
    management, including but not limited to the demand for oil and
    natural gas and the level of domestic production and imports of oil,
    the proximity and capacity of gas pipelines, the availability of
    skilled labor, materials and equipment, the effect of state and
    federal regulation of oil and natural gas production and federal
    regulation of gas sold in interstate commerce. The oil and natural gas
    we produce in Louisiana is sold to purchasers who service the areas
    where our wells are located. We sell the majority of our oil to Shell
    Trading Company, or Shell. Shell takes custody of the oil at the
    outlet from our oil storage barge. Our production from WCBB, other
    than the production sold under forward sales contracts, is being sold
    in accordance with the Shell posted price for West Texas/New Mexico
    Intermediate crude plus or minus Platt’s trade month average P+ value,
    plus or minus the Platt’s HLS/WTI trade month average differential
    less $2.70 per barrel for transportation. During 2010, we sold 75% and
    19% of our oil production to Shell and Windsor Energy Group, the
    operator of our Permian wells, respectively, and 50%, 32%, and 10% of
    our natural gas production to Windsor Energy Group, Chevron and
    Hilcorp Energy Company, respectively. During 2009, we sold 92% and 7%
    of our oil production to Shell and Windsor Energy Group, the operator
    of our Permian wells, respectively, and 45%, 38%, and 16% of our
    natural gas production to Windsor Energy Group, Chevron and Hilcorp
    Energy Company, respectively. During 2008, we sold 87% of our oil
    production to Shell and 11% to Windsor Energy Group, 100% of our
    natural gas liquids production to Windsor Energy Group, and 60%, 22%,
    and 16% of our natural gas production to Chevron, Windsor Energy
    Group, and Hilcorp Energy Company, respectively. We may not continue
    to have ready access to suitable markets for our future oil and
    natural gas production.

    Oil and natural gas prices can be extremely volatile and are subject
    to substantial seasonal, political and other fluctuations. The price
    at which the oil and natural gas we produce may be sold is uncertain
    and it is possible that under some market conditions the production
    and sale of oil and natural gas from some or all of our properties may
    not be economical. Because of all of the factors influencing the price
    of oil and natural gas, it is impossible to accurately predict future
    prices.

    To mitigate the effects of commodity price fluctuations, we were party
    to forward sales contracts for the sale of 3,000 barrels of WCBB
    production per day at a weighted average daily price of $54.81 per
    barrel, before transportation costs and differentials, for the period
    January 2010 through February 2010. For the period March 2010 through
    December 2010, we were party to forward sales contracts for the sale
    of 2,300 barrels of WCBB production per day at a weighted average
    daily price of $58.24 per barrel before transportation costs and
    differentials. We delivered approximately 45% of our 2010 production
    under these agreements.

    In November 2010, we entered into fixed price swaps for 2,000 barrels
    of oil per day at a weighted average price of $86.96 per barrel,
    before transportation costs and differentials, for the period January
    2011 through December 2011. Under the 2011 contracts, we have
    committed to deliver approximately 30% to 33% of our estimated 2011
    production. Such arrangements may expose us to risk of financial loss
    in certain circumstances, including instances where production is less
    than expected or oil prices increase. These forward sales contacts and
    fixed price swaps are accounted for as cash flow hedges and recorded
    at fair value pursuant to FASB ASC 815, “Derivatives and Hedging,” and
    related pronouncements.



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    To: <t.wishart@banfrackingnb.ca>; <crwolpin@xplornet.com>;
    < appsolca@yahoo.ca>; <jlpdev@nbnet.nb.ca>
    Cc: "kirk. macdonald"<kirk.macdonald@gnb.ca>; <oldmaison@yahoo.com>;
    "acampbell"<acampbell@ctv.ca>; "Jacques.Poitras"
    < Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>; <jonesr@cbc.ca>; "mclaughlin.heather"
    < mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>; "news"
    < news@kingscorecord.com>; "tips"<tips@nytimes.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:21 PM
    Subject: Fwd: Dr. Ingraffea I enjoyed your presentations about
    fracking in New Brunswick Its too bad that your friends did not
    introduce us


    http://www.nben.ca/en/collaborative-action/news-from-groups/itemlist/user/169-terrywishart

    Media Contacts:

    Our Environment, Our Choice, Denise Melanson: 523-9467

    Quality of Life Initiative, Otty Forgrave: 839-2326

    CCNB Action, Stephanie Merrill: 261-8317

    Ban Fracking NB, Terri Telasco: 866-7658

    New Brunswickers Against Fracking, Mary de La Valette: 369-1995

    Council of Canadians, St. John Chapter, Carol Ring: 847-0953

    Grand Lake Watershed Guardians, Amy Sullivan: 339-1980 or 339-5324

    Sierra Club Atlantic, Hazel Richardson: 452-8915

    Jean Louis Deveau 506 442 1413

    Julia Linke 506 367 0987

    Terry Wishart 506 238 4001

    Carl Wolpin: 506 832-7827

    Chris Rendell:  506 832-4660


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 20:02:57 -0400
    Subject: Ralph Carr, Bruce Northrup and David Coon know why I won't
    hold my breath waiting for a response from Dr Ingraffea
    To: ARI1@cornell.edu, thepurplevioletpress
    < thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com>, concernedcitizensofpenobsquis
    < concernedcitizensofpenobsquis@yahoo.ca>, "ralph.carr"
    < ralph.carr@sussex.ca>, "bruce.northrup@gnb.ca"
    < bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, linkejul <linkejul@gmail.com>, webo
    < webo@xplornet.com>
    Cc: maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>, "davidc.coon"
    < davidc.coon@gmail.com>, water <water@ccnbaction.ca>

    From: Anthony R Ingraffea <ari1@cornell.edu>
    Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 23:52:38 +0000
    Subject: Automatic reply: Dr. Ingraffea I enjoyed your presentations
    about fracking in New Brunswick Its too bad that your friends did not
    introduce us
    To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

    Hi,
    Please note that I am on sabbatic leave until July 1, 2012.  I might
    not be able to access email all the time, and I certainly will be
    slower to respond in most cases.  I hope you understand.

    Best regards,
    Tony

    On 12/7/11, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:
    > http://www.cee.cornell.edu/people/profile.cfm?netid=ari1
    >
    > I especialy liked your comment about Corridor Resources and Potash
    > Corp's work in Penosquis being stupid.
    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdxg-Jen4K4
    >
    > FYI I have the same problem with trying to talk to this lady this week.
    >
    > Here is why I called her
    >
    > http://www.nben.ca/en/my-nb-eco-community/events/viewevent/283-Shale+Gas+Speaker+Series%3A+Jessica+Ernst
    >
    > http://www.bctwa.org/FrkBC-Ernst-PrRel-Apr%2026-2011.pdf
    >
    > Look my words quoted by the newspaper years ago and campare them to
    > the words in Nasser's letter that is atttached.
    >
    > "What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood,
    > the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to
    > name a few.
    >
    >
    > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:46:04 -0400
    > Subject: RE Harper, the CBC, Daniel Tobok, BHP Billiton and China
    > versus me old me
    > To: dtobok@digitalwyzdom.com, "greg.weston"<greg.weston@cbc.ca>, pm
    > < pm@pm.gc.ca>, Clemet1 <Clemet1@parl.gc.ca>, fosterd@bennettjones.ca,
    > corporate.relations@potashcorp.com
    > Cc: Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com, jane.mcaloon@bhpbilliton.com,
    > "jacques.nasser"<jacques.nasser@bhpbilliton.com>, water
    > < water@ccnbaction.ca>, "jonesr@cbc.ca"<jonesr@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
    > < terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, premier
    > < premier@gov.sk.ca>, "bruce.northrup@gnb.ca"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>
    >
    > Too too funny EH Jac?
    >
    > http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2010/09/15/china-potashcorp.html
    >
    > http://www.cbc.ca/m/rich/politics/story/2011/11/29/pol-weston-hacking-firms.html
    >
    > http://www.digitalwyzdom.com/corporate_management.html
    >
    > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    > From: "Collins, Susan J (COSEC)"<Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com>
    > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:23:12 +1000
    > Subject: Email to BHP Billiton Chairman's
    > To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
    >
    >
    > Please find attached a letter from Mr Jac Nasser, Chairman of BHP
    > Billiton
    >
    > Susan Collins
    > Company Secretariat
    > BHP Billiton | 180 Lonsdale St | Melbourne Vic 3000 |Australia
    > T: +61 3 9609 2654 | M: +61 427 713 994 | F: +61 3 9609 3290
    > E: susan.j.collins@bhpbilliton.comjane.mcaloon@bhpbilliton.com
    >
    >
    >   <>
    >
    >
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
    >> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:36 AM
    >> To: pr@potashcorp.com; Podwika@potashcorp.com;
    >> fosterd@bennettjones.ca; corporate.relations@potashcorp.com;
    >> lgold.blcanada@b-l.com; shawn. graham; David.ALWARD@gnb.ca;
    >> krisaustin; jacques_poitras@cbc.ca; cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca;
    >> tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com; nmiller@corridor.ca;
    >> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca; atlbf@nb.aibn.com; akapoor@globeandmail.com;
    >> nmacadam@globeandmail.com; vepp@globeandmail.com;
    >> potash@mackenziepartners.com; contactus@kingsdaleshareholder.com;
    >> rick.hancox; Bernard.LeBlanc; Liebenberg, Andre;
    >> mclellana@bennettjones.com; MooreR; danfour; oldmaison@yahoo.com;
    >> Harris, Brendan; Dean.Buzza; Gilles. Blinn
    >> Cc: wcoady; michel.desneiges@sade-els.org; producers@stu.ca;
    >> WaterWarCrimes; Penny Bright; tony; Nasser, Jacques
    >> Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
    >> of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
    >> you people buy much stock in their stock eh?
    >>
    >> With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
    >> issues again about  theexploitation of our natural resources to a
    >> bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
    >> attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
    >> McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
    >> did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
    >> conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
    >> Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
    >> now)
    >>
    >> Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
    >> with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
    >> sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
    >> simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
    >> have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?
    >>
    >> Veritas Vincit
    >> David Raymond Amos
    >>
    >>
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    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
    >>>>>> From: "McKnight, Gisele"
    >>>>>> To:
    >>>>>> Cc:
    >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:53 PM
    >>>>>> Subject: David Amos
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Hello Lisa,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> David Amos asked me to contact you. I met him last June after he
    >>>>>> became an independent (not representing any political party)
    >>>>>> candidate
    >>>>>> in our federal election that was held June 28. He was a candidate in
    >>>>>> our constituency of Fundy (now called Fundy-Royal).
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I wrote a profile story about him, as I did all other candidates.
    >>>>>> That
    >>>>>> story appeared in the Kings County Record June 22. A second story,
    >>>>>> written by one of my reporters, appeared on the same date, which was
    >>>>>> a
    >>>>>> report on the candidates' debate held June 18.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> As I recall David Amos came last of four candidates in the election.
    >>>>>> The winner got 14,997 votes, while Amos got 358. I have attached the
    >>>>>> two stories that appeared, as well as a photo taken by reporter Erin
    >>>>>> Hatfield during the debate. I couldn't find the photo that ran, but
    >>>>>> this one is very similar.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Gisele McKnight editor
    >>>>>> Kings County Record
    >>>>>> Sussex, New Brunswick
    >>>>>> Canada
    >>>>>> 506-433-1070
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
    >>>>>> By Erin Hatfield
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your
    >>>>>> world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at
    >>>>>> the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to
    >>>>>> watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if
    >>>>>> unofficial, theme song for the debate.
    >>>>>> The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but
    >>>>>> as
    >>>>>> they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn.
    >>>>>> Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the
    >>>>>> blue
    >>>>>> chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's
    >>>>>> Liberalswent
    >>>>>> left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty,
    >>>>>> mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row
    >>>>>> towards
    >>>>>> the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.
    >>>>>> The debate was moderated by Leo Melanson of CJCW Radio and was
    >>>>>> organized by the Sussex Valley Jaycees. Candidates wereasked a
    >>>>>> barrage
    >>>>>> of questions bypanelists Gisele McKnight of the Kings County Record
    >>>>>> and Lisa Spencer of CJCW.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates
    >>>>>> responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the
    >>>>>> exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices.
    >>>>>> Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each
    >>>>>> other on their answers and criticizing eachothers’ party leaders.
    >>>>>> Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the
    >>>>>> questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of
    >>>>>> comic
    >>>>>> relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in
    >>>>>> response to the question of the national gun registry. "Nobody's
    >>>>>> getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Herron, a Progressive Conservative MP turned Liberal, veered from his
    >>>>>> party'splatform with regard to gun control. "It was ill advised but
    >>>>>> well intentioned," Herron said. "No matter what side of the house I
    >>>>>> am
    >>>>>> on, I'm voting against it." Pat Hanratty agreed there were better
    >>>>>> places for the gun registry dollars to be spent.Recreational hunters
    >>>>>> shouldn't have been penalized by this gun registry," he said.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The gun registry issues provoked the tempers of Herron and Moore. At
    >>>>>> one point Herron got out of his seat and threw a piece of paper in
    >>>>>> front of Moore. "Read that," Herron said to Moore, referring to the
    >>>>>> voting record of Conservative Party leader Steven Harper. According
    >>>>>> to
    >>>>>> Herron, Harper voted in favour of the registry on the first and
    >>>>>> second
    >>>>>> readings of the bill in 1995. "He voted against it when it counted,
    >>>>>> at
    >>>>>> final count," Moore said. "We needa government with courage to
    >>>>>> register sex offenders rather than register the property of law
    >>>>>> abiding citizens."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The crowd was vocal throughout the evening, with white haired men and
    >>>>>> women heckling from the Conservative side. "Shut up John," one woman
    >>>>>> yelled. "How can you talk about selling out?" a man yelled whenHerron
    >>>>>> spoke about his fear that the Conservatives are selling farmers out.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Although the Liberal side was less vocal, Kings East MLA Leroy
    >>>>>> Armstrong weighed in at one point. "You’re out of touch," Armstrong
    >>>>>> yelled to Moore from the crowd when the debate turned to the cost of
    >>>>>> post-secondary education. Later in the evening Amos challenged
    >>>>>> Armstrong to a public debate of their own. "Talk is cheap. Any time,
    >>>>>> anyplace," Armstrong responded.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> As the crowd made its way out of the building following the debate,
    >>>>>> candidates worked the room. They shook hands with well-wishers and
    >>>>>> fielded questions from spectators-all part of the decision-making
    >>>>>> process for the June 28 vote.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Cutline – David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of
    >>>>>> his
    >>>>>> favourite possessions—motorcycles.
    >>>>>> McKnight/KCR
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The Unconventional Candidate
    >>>>>> David Amos Isn’t Campaigning For Your Vote, But….
    >>>>>> By Gisele McKnight
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his
    >>>>>> wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone
    >>>>>> that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his
    >>>>>> wife
    >>>>>> and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from
    >>>>>> running for office in Canada.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail
    >>>>>> to meet Elections Canada requirements.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his
    >>>>>> favourite place to do so—Fundy.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his
    >>>>>> dissatisfaction with politicians.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "I’ve become aware of much corruption involving our two countries,"
    >>>>>> he
    >>>>>> said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in
    >>>>>> 1987. He woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he
    >>>>>> needed to change his life.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that
    >>>>>> sometimes in midlife."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> So Amos, who’d lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners
    >>>>>> motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952
    >>>>>> Panhead motorcycle.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Annie and I rode around for awhile (three years, to be exact)
    >>>>>> experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said. "This is how you
    >>>>>> renew your faith in mankind – you help anyone you can, you never ask
    >>>>>> for anything, but you take what they offer."
    >>>>>> For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs
    >>>>>> and conversation all over North America.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Since he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son
    >>>>>> and a daughter and become a house-husband – Mr. Mom, as he calls
    >>>>>> himself.
    >>>>>> He also describes himself in far more colourful terms—a motorcyclist
    >>>>>> rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed
    >>>>>> individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a
    >>>>>> proud
    >>>>>> Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."
    >>>>>> Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his
    >>>>>> life.
    >>>>>> "But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said.
    >>>>>> "It’s alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
    >>>>>> "I didn’t appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door
    >>>>>> interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can
    >>>>>> call me. I’m not going to drive my opinions down their throats."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.
    >>>>>> "I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some.
    >>>>>> It’s
    >>>>>> not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood,
    >>>>>> the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to
    >>>>>> name a few.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs –
    >>>>>> fishing,
    >>>>>> farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m
    >>>>>> death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it
    >>>>>> (NAFTA) out the window.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an
    >>>>>> easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me,
    >>>>>> especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right.
    >>>>>> Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Although…if you’re going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have
    >>>>>> your X by his name.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and
    >>>>>> say, ‘what the hell.’"
    >>>>>
    >

    New Brunswickers from all over the province denounce the development
    of an unconventional shale gas industry. The process used to extract
    unconventional shale gas is less than 20 years old. It is the
    undisputed cause of ecological damage and long-term economic net debt,
    earthquakes, air and noise pollution, infrastructure degradation and
    the profligate use and irreversible poisoning of trillions of litres
    of fresh water. It leaves deleterious impacts on the lives and health
    of humans and other animals in its wake.

    “The civic duty of New Brunswick residents does not require that they
    be guinea pigs in anyone’s science experiments”, states Jim Emberger,
    spokesperson for the Taymouth Community Association.

    The promise of large-scale job creation appears over-exaggerated. In a
    recent presentation at the University of New Brunswick on October 22,
    2011, Mr. Calvin Tillman, former mayor of Dish, Texas mentioned that
    since this industry requires highly skilled workers, most will be
    imported from outside the province to enable the industry to be more
    competitive at a time when stock market prices for natural gas are
    low.

    Events on Saturday, November 19th will begin at 7:00 am with a Sunrise
    Ceremony at the Old Burial Grounds at 51 Woodstock Road. At 10:00 am
    there will be a benefit concert at the Old Burial Grounds for the
    people of Penobsquis. A march to the Provincial Legislature will begin
    after the concert, starting at 11:00 am.

    Sixty residents in Penobsquis have lost their well water and have
    experienced ground subsidence allegedly from the industrialization of
    their rural community. Some who want to move away have been unable to
    sell their homes. We ask, where is justice for the people of
    Penobsquis? Will regulations serve anyone when more things go wrong? A
    point made clear in the recent documentary by Rob Turgeon, ‘Be…
    Without Water’. (www.youtube.com/user/robfturgeon#p/a/u/1/aK0NMTMXHSw)

    Events on Wednesday, November 23rd are scheduled to begin at the
    Provincial Legislature at 12:00 noon. A program with music and
    speakers will begin at 1:00 pm.

    Media Contacts:

    Jean Louis Deveau 506 442 1413 jlpdev@nbnet.nb.ca
    Julia Linke 506 367 0987 linkejul@gmail.com
    Terry Wishart 506 238 4001 t.wishart@banfrackingnb.ca


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    To: <linkejulia@gmail.com>; "thepurplevioletpress"
    < thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com>; <oldmaison@yahoo.com>; "khalid"
    < khalid@windsorenergy.ca>
    Cc: <ron.shaw@gnb.ca>; "maritime_malaise"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>;
    < steve.benteau@gnb.ca>
    Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 5:20 PM
    Subject: Fwd: Re Fracking etc Looks I should to clue in some folks
    before next week about Windsor Energy and the RCMP EH?


    15th and FINAL Shale Gas Sidewalk Protest

    For Immediate Release
    November 16, 2011
    Contact: Julia Linke: linkejulia@gmail.com Telephone: 367-0987

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:20:37 -0400
    Subject: Re Fracking etc Looks I should to clue in some folks before
    next week about Windsor Energy and the RCMP EH?
    To: heathbob1983@gmail.com, Sam.McEwan@gnb.ca, "davidc.coon"
    < davidc.coon@gmail.com>, bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, water@ccnbaction.ca,
    thepurplevioletpress <thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com>, danfour
    < danfour@myginch.com>, chiefape <chiefape@gmail.com>, "terry.seguin"
    < terry.seguin@cbc.ca>
    Cc: maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>,
    khalid@windsorenergy.ca, "Wayne.Lang"<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
    "Gilles. Blinn"<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2011/11/10/nb-conservation-council-windsor-energy-rcmp.html

    http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=269310853105299

    http://dailygleaner.canadaeast.com/rss/article/1446369

    http://dailygleaner.canadaeast.com/rss/article/1450115

    http://thepurplevioletpressnb.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-11-09T20%3A27%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=7

    Correction
    Natural Resources spokesman, Steve Benteau, informed us this afternoon
    that Windsor Energy Inc. is indeed the name of the company operating
    here in New Brunswick, not Windsor Energy Corp as we had researched on
    the internet. It seems Windsor Energy Corp no longer exists, but that
    Windsor Energy Inc from the United States is it's own entity, separate
    from Calgary-based Windsor Energy Inc in Canada, of which Khalid Amin
    is President. We have withdrawn our inquiries with Oklahoma-based
    Windsor Energy Inc for information.

    We are glad to finally have the questions surrounding these companies
    cleared up. It is hoped Benteau and his staff will work with us in the
    future to avoid such misunderstandings about DNR clients operating in
    New Brunswick, rather than having to rely on the internet for
    information.

    This publication regrets the error and apologizes for any
    inconvenience to readers, DNR or Windsor Energy Inc. - ED.
    Posted by The Purple Violet Press at 15:10

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:15:44 -0400
    Subject: Re Windsor Energy etc Attn Mike Dawson I am the guy who
    called just you on your cell phone (403 669 3402)
    To: info@csug.ca, naturalgas@gnb.ca, "terry.seguin"
    < terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, "bruce.northrup@gnb.ca"
    < bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, water@conservationcouncil.ca,
    ptz@barryspalding.com, michelle.brun-coughlan@gnb.ca,
    Sam.McEwan@gnb.ca, "davidc.coon"<davidc.coon@gmail.com>,
    Sylvie.Levesque-Finn@gnb.ca, ralph.carr@sussex.ca,
    mark.wright@sussex.ca, acampbell@ctv.ca, news@kingscorecord.com,
    mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com, pcambs@yourlawyer.com,
    dbecnel@becnellaw.com, jbuckingham@osler.com, armandpaul@xplornet.ca,
    tom_alexander@swn.com, irelatio@swn.com, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
    "David.ALWARD@gnb.ca"<David.ALWARD@gnb.ca>
    Cc: khalid@windsorenergy.ca, maritime_malaise
    < maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>, concernedcitizensofpenobsquis@yahoo.ca,
    thepurplevioletpress <thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com>,
    thenewbrunswicker <thenewbrunswicker@gmail.com>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
    < oldmaison@yahoo.com>, chiefape <chiefape@gmail.com>

    After i heard Bruce northrup and CBC yapping about Winsor Energy I saw
    red and checked your "Society" out immediately When I saw the sneaky
    southern Yankee Tom Alexander amongst your frends introduced myself to
    you ASAP.

    http://www.csur.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10&Itemid=172

    http://www.scottdutton.ca/images/csug_unconventionalgas.pdf

    Trust that now you know only a little of what the "Powers that BE" in
    the "Place to BE know about mean old me

    The Windsor Energy dude was not joking when he said New Brunswick is
    the laughing stock of Ablerta Stephen Harper called us defeatists long
    ago. That was one of the reasond I first ran aganst your malevolent
    party in 2004. Remember Stevey Boy?

    Veritas Vincit
    David Raymond Amos
    902 800 0369

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Stephanie Merrill"<water@ccnbaction.ca>
    To: <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:53 PM
    Subject: Thank you for your message Re: On and on it goes for the
    people in Penobsquis and their battle with Potash Corp over water EH
    Mr Zed?

    Hi,

    I have received your email, however due to an overwhelming number of
    email inquiries, I may be unable to respond quickly.  Please know that
    I received your message and will attempt to get back to you when I
    can.

    If your inquiry is extremely time sensitive, please call our main
    office at 506.458.8747.

    Thank you for your patience and understanding.

    Stephanie


    Stephanie Merrill
    Freshwater Protection Program Coordinator
    Shale Gas Alert Campaign Coordinator
    CCNB Action
    506.458.8747
    www.ccnbaction.ca

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:40:44 -0300
    Subject: On and on it goes for the people in Penobsquis and their
    battle with Potash Corp over water EH Mr Zed?
    To: concernedcitizensofpenobsquis
    < concernedcitizensofpenobsquis@yahoo.ca>, water
    < water@conservationcouncil.ca>, water <water@ccnbaction.ca>,
    naturalgas@gnb.ca, ramsey@miningwatch.ca, avbruce@rogers.com, chiefape
    < chiefape@gmail.com>, WaterWarCrimes <waterwarcrimes@gmail.com>
    Cc: ptz@barryspalding.com, michelle.brun-coughlan@gnb.ca,
    "michel.desneiges"<michel.desneiges@sade-els.org>

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2011/10/14/nb-penobsquis-mining-hearing-931.html

    Well it ain't over till the Fat Lady sings. The folks still have quite
    a while to embarass the hell out of you with my actions and evidence
    before Rod Duguay brings the hammer down for the benefit of the CROWN
    and its buddies instead of the people it serves.

    Cover ups involving the CROWN is a VRY serious allegation. Obviously I
    mean it. Wanna sue me first?

    Furthermore I have yet to sue the CROWN or your law firm or Potash
    Corp or their buddies in UBS or Corridor Resources to name but a few.
    What will the you and the CROWN do if the icecap over my name melt
    before I do? At the very least you cannot deny that I have been lining
    up my ducks for years and the cover up of certain crimes such as
    murder is not limited by any amount of time to litigate about.

    Rest assured that I certainly did not appreciate your clients within
    Potash Corp posting my picture at their gate like I was some kind of
    criminal while the same photo was posted inside the Legislative
    Building in NB as I ran for a seat in parliament in 2006. You may  try
    to say that I am a little late until your review the attachment EH Mr
    Zed?

    You and your fellow lawyers In Barry Spalding were certainly not very
    wise officers of the court to ignore all the material I gave you and
    the RCMP over the years particularly AFTER the Attorney General, the
    Governor General and the RCMP ANSWERED me with a challenge then tried
    to have me falsely imprisoned in two countries when the CROWN realized
    its mistake. Don't you lawyers even know how to protect your own fat
    dumb arses from being sued?

    Perhaps people in Penobsquis should ignore their spokespersons such as
    Beth Nixon and Beth Norrad and simply think for themselves. If they
    just print the one document hereto attached and littered Sussex with
    it ASAP the shit may hit the fan overnight in light of the fact that
    the potash in Millstream is now in play.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2011/10/21/nb-millstream-potash-exploration.html

     If they print the text of this email as well whether they understand
    it or not just put it in the PUBLIC Record before the Mining
    Commissioner Roderick Duguay and his Justice Dept lawyer this week it
    would be interesting to hear his judgemnt as to why it does not apply.
    After he does the folks should up the ante bigtime and demand that
    their MLA Bruce Northrup and MP Rob Moore and the CEO of Windsor
    Energy to explain this entire email to them in writing.

    Wheras it costs nothing at all to send an email Why not follow my lead
    and forward this email to Bruce Northrup's gasy people
    (naturalgas@gnb.ca) before his big webcast on Thursday?

    press release

    FREDERICTON -  Natural Resources Minister Bruce Northrup will hold a
    live webcast on Thursday, October 27, to answer questions from New
    Brunswickers about natural gas exploration and development.

    The webcast will take place from 2 pm to 3 pm on the Natural Gas From
    Shale website. Residents wishing to submit questions may do so by
    e-mail at naturalgas@gnb.ca until 5 pm on Tuesday, October 25

    Both Beths and David Coon's people all know as well as I that I talked
    to them and a lot other folks in Penobsquis and elsewhere over the
    years about their concerns about water etc. Need I say their silence
    has been deafening in response to me? In my humble opinion the folks
    should have ignored all the lawyers and their self serving sneaky
    treehugger friends and simply invited me to explain many things about
    Potash Corp and Corridor Resources etc ever since I first ran for a
    seat in Parliament in Fundy Royal in 2004. Several of the so called
    "Concerned Citizens" and Chris Bell in particular witnessed the circus
    between Mr Shaw of Natural Resources, the treehuggers and I during
    this meeting about Uranium mining in 2008 Those were MY documents that
    Mr Shaw was waving in his hand Correct?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Lm7S4JEpA&feature=channel_video_title

    When I read this I just shook my head. Earthquakes??? Jeez Werner.

    http://thepurplevioletpressnb.blogspot.com/2011/10/worried-reader-calls-in.html

    Chris Bell must remember Werner was with me when their treehugger
    friends denied that they recieved public funds? Well I wonder how
    David Coon's and his cohorts explain this very recent lament

    http://www.conservationcouncil.ca/News/news10141101.aspx

    When I read the following I really shook my head. Trust that the
    lawyer Petey Baby Zed would not had dared to ask me the same question
    he asked Chris Bell.

    Testimony before mining commissioner continues
    By Jeanne Whitehead – Kings County Record June 28, 2011

    "Peter Zed, PotashCorp’s lawyer, cross-examined Chris Bell."

    "He also asked her, “You mentioned a cover-up? You seemed to indicate
    the government was implicit with (PotashCorp) in not disclosing the
    real reason for the water loss.”
    “I don’t remember using that word ‘cover-up’,” she replied.
    Zed told her the allegation was a very serious one. “Are you making
    any allegations against (PotashCorp)?” he asked.
    After several moments of contemplation, Chris Bell responded, “No.”
    “Thank you,” said Zed."

    In closing I must say your anonymous friend the Mad Ape and his very
    nasty friends in Fat fred City such as Chucky Leblanc  pissed me off
    long ago. The "ConcernedCitizens" in Penobsquis were not wise to side
    with them and against me.

    http://www.penobsquis.ca/2011/03/penobsquis-battle-versus-potashcorp-begins/

    Veritas Vincit
    David Raymond Amos
    902 800 0369

    Enjoy the rest of this email


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:09:47 -0300
    Subject: Re Windsor Energy versus Bruce Northrup and the Boyz Not
    everybody ignores mean old me EH David Coon?
    To: Sam.McEwan@gnb.ca, "davidc.coon"<davidc.coon@gmail.com>,
    bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, Sylvie.Levesque-Finn@gnb.ca,
    ralph.carr@sussex.ca, mark.wright@sussex.ca, acampbell@ctv.ca,
    news@kingscorecord.com, mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com,
    dnrweb@gnb.ca, jake.stewart@gnb.ca
    Cc: naturalgas@gnb.ca, thepurplevioletpress
    < thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com>, doug.holt@gnb.ca,
    Perry.Haines@gnb.ca, dallas.mccready@gnb.ca, Byron.James@gnb.ca,
    mike.ferguson@gnb.ca, Charles.O'Donnell@gnb.ca, Phil.Lepage@gnb.ca

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:23:21 -0300
    Subject: Perhaps you and I should talk ASAP Trust that I studied your
    company too
    To: khalid@windsorenergy.ca

    Thanks for the tip about BHP. You and I should talk very soon because
    I am about to pass around some info about Windsor Energy because of
    some local meeting this weekend.

    To be fair to you and your company. You can save these words to keep
    me honest. I am not against fracking or mining as long as corporations
    and governments hold to the rule of law that are already in place to
    protect the environment and our interests as best as humanly possible.
    I understand that accidents can happen and I understand my fellow
    Maritimers far better than you obviously do. It is the royalties paid
    to the the stakeholders (the citizens the governments represent) that
    concern me the most.

    Trust that I am likely better known and better liked by the common
    folk in the Sussex area than Ralph Carr or Bruce Northrup or Rob
    Moore. It does not reflect in the polls merely because if you but a
    blue coat on the dog in Fundy it will get elected. On the other hand
    another awful truth is that if a Maritimer thinks his property or kids
    are threatened he will bury the bastard in the yard so to speak and
    all his neighbors will bring shovels to help him dig. It is because no
    one trusts let alone respect the politicians and most hate the corrupt
    RCMP as well.

    Your words in the media raised the ire of ordinary folks and McLeod,
    Alward and their puppetmasters (Derek Burney and Harper and Mulroney
    for example) know it. Your company may become a scapegoat in order to
    make him appear ethical.

    Here are two good recent examples to support what I say is true.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2007/03/23/nb-masonverdict.html

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2006/08/02/nb-rcmp.html

    Surf through this old file of mine from 2003 to make certain that I am
    no bullshitter like Bruce Northrup most certainly is

    http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf

    I know for a fact I can help you make the govenment keep its contract
    with you but your task will be to convince me as to why should I wish
    to

    Veritas Vincit
    David Ramond Amos
    902 800 0369

    On 10/22/11, khalid@windsorenergy.ca<khalid@windsorenergy.ca> wrote:
    > BHP is coming to Sussex very soon. Old Millstream deposit.
    >
    > Some dirt:
    > http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/city/article/1449883
    >
    >
    > Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:30:40
    > To: <khalid@windsorenergy.ca>
    > Subject: Re: Fwd: Attn Peter J. Cambs RE SWN I have been invited to take
    > all
    >   the greasy gassy oily people to Federal Court in Canada
    >
    > In a nutshell its called public corruption
    >
    > Did you read this email and study the attachments?
    >
    > I know who you are if you had read the email you would have noticed
    > that i have been studying Potash and Corridor since I first ran for a
    > seat in Parliament in he Sussex area in 2004. One of the attachments
    > proved that I am the guy who threw a wrench in the BHP hostile
    > takeover bid for Potash one year ago
    >
    > FYI I am this David Amos
    >
    > http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html
    >
    >
    >
    > On 10/21/11, khalid@windsorenergy.ca<khalid@windsorenergy.ca> wrote:
    >> Yes we are partners on some land. What is this all about ?
    >> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    >> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:20:37
    >> To: <khalid@windsorenergy.ca>
    >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Attn Peter J. Cambs RE SWN I have been invited to take
    >> all
    >>   the greasy gassy oily people to Federal Court in Canada
    >>
    >> You are hooked at the hip with Corridor Resources
    >>
    >> On 10/21/11, khalid@windsorenergy.ca<khalid@windsorenergy.ca> wrote:
    >>> I don't understand why I was emailed.
    >>> I am Windsor Energy
    >>>
    >>> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network
    >>>
    >>> -----Original Message-----
    >>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    >>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:20:47
    >>> To: <khalid@windsorenergy.ca>
    >>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Attn Peter J. Cambs RE SWN I have been invited to take
    >>> all
    >>>   the greasy gassy oily people to Federal Court in Canada
    >>>
    >>> I am preparing a lawsuit and suggesting that my old friends settle with
    >>> me
    >>> first
    >>>
    >>> On 10/21/11, khalid@windsorenergy.ca<khalid@windsorenergy.ca> wrote:
    >>>> What's this about?
    >>>>
    >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network
    >>>>
    >>>> -----Original Message-----
    >>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:26:53
    >>>> To: <khalid@windsorenergy.ca>;
    >>>> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>;
    >>>> davidc.coon<davidc.coon@gmail.com>;
    >>>> maritime_malaise<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>; <pcambs@yourlawyer.com>;
    >>>> < dbecnel@becnellaw.com>; <jbuckingham@osler.com>;
    >>>> acampbell<acampbell@ctv.ca>; news<news@kingscorecord.com>;
    >>>> mclaughlin.heather<mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>;
    >>>> Barry.MacKnight<Barry.MacKnight@fredericton.ca>;
    >>>> danny.copp@fredericton.ca<danny.copp@fredericton.ca>;
    >>>> Charles.O'Donnell<Charles.O'Donnell@gnb.ca>
    >>>> Cc: <ralph.carr@sussex.ca>; <mark.wright@sussex.ca>;
    >>>> Wayne.Lang<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>;
    >>>> David.ALWARD@gnb.ca<David.ALWARD@gnb.ca>; <tom_alexander@swn.com>;
    >>>> < irelatio@swn.com>
    >>>> Subject: Fwd: Attn Peter J. Cambs RE SWN I have been invited to take
    >>>> all
    >>>> the
    >>>>   greasy gassy oily people to Federal Court in Canada
    >>>>
    >>>> Mayor: Ralph Carr - Email
    >>>> CAO: Scott Hatcher - Email
    >>>> Town Clerk/Treasurer: Paul Maguire - Email
    >>>>
    >>>> 524 Main St.
    >>>> Sussex, N. B.
    >>>> Canada, E4E 3E4
    >>>> Phone: (506) 432-4540
    >>>> Fax: (506) 432-4566
    >>>>
    >>>> Hey Ralph
    >>>>
    >>>> Trust that did not appreciate YOUR pal Mark Wright making false
    >>>> allegations against me and sending the RCMP to harass my friends and I
    >>>> right after the last time you and talked while that nasty little
    >>>> bastard was working with David Lutz as he was running for parliament
    >>>> in 2008.
    >>>>
    >>>> Furthermore since then not once have you answered an email or returned
    >>>> a phone call. HOWCOME RALPH?? Are you too buddy buddy with Bruce
    >>>> Northrup and Rob Moore to ignore the truth?
    >>>>
    >>>> http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/city/article/1449260
    >>>>
    >>>> You talk of trust but you failed me 3 years ago. I know you liked and
    >>>> respected my father like MacKenzie did and I thought we were friends
    >>>> as well but I guess not EH Ralph?
    >>>>
    >>>> Well just so ya know your corrupt cops buddies are trying to say I
    >>>> stole my old Harley when in fact they stole it from me and the
    >>>> Registar deliberately lost its file. Well YOU were the one who first
    >>>> registered it for me when you worked under my father after I bought it
    >>>> from a very good friend of mine who bought it brand new in 1965. His
    >>>> family will testify to that FACT. Cya'll in Court Ralph.
    >>>>
    >>>> Veritas Vincit
    >>>> David Raymond Amos
    >>>> 1 800 902 0369
    >>>>
    >>>> From: "MacKenzie, Lloyd (SNB)"<lloyd.mackenzie@snb.ca>
    >>>> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:01:27 -0400
    >>>> Subject: Telephone Conversation re: 1965 Harley-Davidson Motorcycle
    >>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
    >>>> Cc: "Bastarache, Donald  J.(SNB)"<Donald.Bastarache@snb.ca>,
    >>>> "Morrison, Bill (SNB)"<bill.morrison@snb.ca>, "Levesque-Finn, Sylvie
    >>>> (SNB)"<Sylvie.Levesque-Finn@snb.ca>, "Pleadwell, Derek (SNB)"
    >>>> < Derek.Pleadwell@snb.ca>
    >>>>
    >>>> Mr. Amos:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>              Upon your request I will inform Mr. Derek Pleadwell[(506)
    >>>> 444-2897], Chairperson SNB Board of Directors, of our extended
    >>>> conversation regarding the issues surrounding the 1965 Harley-Davidson
    >>>> motorcycle when he visits my office at approximately 3:30 P.M. today.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>              Also, as requested, I've copied in Ms. Sylvie
    >>>> Levesque-Finn[(506) 453-3879], SNB President.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Lloyd D. MacKenzie, AACI, P. App, CAE
    >>>>
    >>>> Regional Manager of Assessment - Beauséjour Region/Responsable
    >>>> régional de l'évaluation - region Beauséjour
    >>>>
    >>>> Assessment/ de l'évaluation
    >>>>
    >>>> Service New Brunswick/ Service Nouveau-Brunswick
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> 633 rue Main St. 4th floor/4ième étage
    >>>>
    >>>> Moncton, NB
    >>>>
    >>>> E1C 8R3
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Tel/Tél: (506) 856-3910
    >>>>
    >>>> Fax/Téléc: (506) 856-2519
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>   From: "Lessard, Daniel  (DPS/MSP)"<Daniel.Lessard@gnb.ca>
    >>>> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:14:12 -0300
    >>>> Subject: Out of Office: Telephone Conversation re: 1965
    >>>> Harley-Davidson Motorcycle
    >>>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>> Bonjour.
    >>>>
    >>>> Je suis assigné à Communications Nouveau-Brunswick pour une période
    >>>> indéterminée.
    >>>>
    >>>> Pour toutes questions relatives au ministère de la SÉCURITÉ PUBLIQUE,
    >>>> veuillez communiquer avec Lisa Harrity à l'adresse lisa.harrity@gnb.ca
    >>>> ou par téléphone au numéro 506-453-4433. Merci.
    >>>>
    >>>> Daniel Lessard
    >>>> Agent de communications
    >>>> Ministère de la Sécurité publique
    >>>> 506-444-5267
    >>>> daniel.lessard@gnb.ca
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> **************************************************
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Hi.
    >>>>
    >>>> I will be working with Communications New Brunswick until further
    >>>> notice.
    >>>>
    >>>> Any issues/questions related to the Department of PUBLIC SAFETY should
    >>>> be sent to Lisa Harrity at lisa.harrity@gnb.ca. You can also reach her
    >>>> at 506-453-4433. Thank you.
    >>>>
    >>>> Daniel Lessard
    >>>> Communications Officer
    >>>> Department of Public Safety
    >>>> 506-444-5267
    >>>> daniel.lessard@gnb.ca
    >>>>
    >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    >>>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    >>>> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 06:57:27 -0300
    >>>> Subject: Attn Peter J. Cambs RE SWN I have been invited to take all
    >>>> the greasy gassy oily people to Federal Court in Canada
    >>>> To: pcambs@yourlawyer.com, dbecnel@becnellaw.com,
    >>>> jbuckingham@osler.com, armandpaul@xplornet.ca, tom_alexander@swn.com,
    >>>> irelatio@swn.com, mike.wilson@fredericton.ca,
    >>>> alfonso.leon@apachecorp.com, rob.rayphole@apachecorp.com,
    >>>> energy@conservationcouncil.ca, todd@forestethics.com,
    >>>> Can_Steward.Shared@apachecorp.com
    >>>> Cc: maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
    >>>> philippe.gauthier@shell.com, mwood@talisman-energy.com,
    >>>> deborah_provias@nexeninc.com, marc.jackson@encana.com,
    >>>> dana@cumberlandltd.com
    >>>>
    >>>> Peter J. Cambs
    >>>> Parker Waichman Alonso LLP
    >>>> 6 Harbor Park Drive
    >>>> Port Washington, NY 11050
    >>>> Telephone: (516) 466-6500
    >>>> pcambs@yourlawyer.com
    >>>>
    >>>> The Halliburton Loophole embedded within the 2005 US Energy Bill may
    >>>> give you some trouble protecting your client's rights and interests
    >>>> but i do not believe that Canada has followed suit with such malicious
    >>>> nonsense yet. However now that that the PM Harper as a his big mandate
    >>>> things could change in a heart beat for the benefit of his
    >>>> benefactors.
    >>>>
    >>>> At least Harper cannot deny that it was Corridor Resources and their
    >>>> partner Potash Corp that invited many greedy Yankees to my old
    >>>> stomping grounds to drill in New Brunswick. Nor can he deny the fact
    >>>> that I had something to do with the FAILED BHP takeover bid during the
    >>>> last provincial election in new Brunswick. One attachment and one
    >>>> email below easily prove that fact.
    >>>>
    >>>> The attachments also prove that the Feds cannot deny that I
    >>>> encountered Corridor Resources and a lot of their friends in 2006
    >>>> during a National Energy Board Hearing while running for public office
    >>>> for the last time.
    >>>>
    >>>> Now that you are involved in a lawsuit that SWN makes light of in
    >>>> Canada perhaps you should read some Canadian news then check some of
    >>>> my work to see if we can be of some assistance to each other.
    >>>>
    >>>> This was an interesting comment
    >>>>
    >>>> http://timestranscript.canadaeast.com/front/article/1423873



    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 16:16:45 -0300
    Subject: David Coon of the Green Meanies Roberta Clowater, Graham
    Forbes, Kent Hardy, and all their pals on CBC should ask Chucky
    Leblanc's Indian pals to say Hoka Hey to his buddies the Irvings, SWN,
    Alward and Gallant on behalf of John and Jane Doe N'esy Pas?
    To: rclowater <rclowater@cpaws.org>, media <media@cpaws.org>, premier
    < premier@gnb.ca>, execdirgen <execdirgen@nbliberal.ca>,
    "Brian.gifford"<Brian.gifford@bellaliant.net>, "Davidc.Coon"
    < Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
    infoamfredericton@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
    keith.ashfield.a1@parl.gc.ca, forest <forest@conservationcouncil.ca>,
    "paul.robichaud"<paul.robichaud@gnb.ca>, "marc.chiasson"
    < marc.chiasson@mcinnescooper.com>, gforbes@unb.ca
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, linkejul <linkejul@gmail.com>

    http://www.cbc.ca/informationmorningfredericton/2014/03/13/forestry-report-2/

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/new-brunswick/story/1.2543625

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: <CHenschel@cpaws.org>; <media@cpaws.org>; <cpawsnb@nb.sympatico.ca>;
    < rclowater@cpaws.org>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:21 AM
    Subject: Do you people want my help YET???


    http://www.cbc.ca/informationmorningfredericton/2013/07/15/protected-areas/

    http://cpaws.org/news/chapter/nb

    Media contact:

    Ellen Adelberg
    Director of Communications
    (613)569-7226 ext. 234
    media@cpaws.org

    http://www.nben.ca/en/collaborative-action/news-from-groups/itemlist/user/212-Contact:

    Roberta Clowater, 506-452-9902; cpawsnb@nb.sympatico.ca

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: <mjs837@nyu.edu>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:49 PM
    Subject: Re Fracking wars Mr Slade Trust that there is a lot more to this
    than
    what Chucky or the protesters or the RCMP or the politicians will tell you


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtuNmTH7Qg

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Joshua Skurnik"<joshua.skurnik@sunmedia.ca>
    To: "'David Amos'"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:08 AM
    Subject: Thanks for your help on this

    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2013/12/20131212-214607.html


    JOSHUA SKURNIK | MOBILE JOURNALIST
    t 604.322.2360 | c (604).649.3011 | joshua.skurnik@sunmedia.ca
    24 West 2nd Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 1B3
    www.sunnewsnetwork.ca Sun News Network is Canada's home for Hard News and
    Straight Talk. Sun News Network is a division of Quebecor Media Inc.

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Joshua Skurnik <joshua.skurnik@hotmail.com>
    Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 22:21:28 -0800
    Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

    This is good stuff. Thank you very much. Just email me at my hotmail
    account, I'll get it just the same.

    Josh

    On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:08 PM, David Amos wrote:


    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 02:07:37 -0400
    Subject: Re: What can you tell me about these two?
    To: Joshua Skurnik <joshua.skurnik@sunmedia.ca>, "joshua.skurnik"
    < joshua.skurnik@hotmail.com>
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

    I believe Willi (A bit of a nut) and Maxime and his wife (they mean
    what they say) are harmless two bit players who genuinely care about
    the environment. The proof of the pudding is they stand in line and
    are willing to be arrested

    The local masters of disaster orchestring things behind the scenes are
    the very greedy little Indian lawyers TJ Burke and Pam Palmater,  the
    Green meanies funded by Tides etc David Coon, local leader of Green
    Party the Council of Canadians Council of Canadians Maude Barlow and
    the strange anarchists of the Occupy crowd funded by George Soros

    You already met one of the biggest shit disturbers that runs with
    David Coon Maude Barlow and Dizzy Lizzy May Her name is Pamela Ross
    she got her friends to block you twice thus far.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5xADesJNeU

    Notice Pammy Baby and Chucky Leblanc are all buddy buddy with the other
    media?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVOpy-nU8xg

    Myles Howe is the Occupy dude running spin

    http://halifax.mediacoop.ca/video/occupy-halifax-police-brutality-miles-howe-describes-his-arrest/9024

    BTW Sunmedia is blocking me

    http://willinolanspeaks.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/who-is-willi-nolan-biography/

    http://willilittlefire.wordpress.com/2009/01/26/about-gramma-willi/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAVc1nvymPs

    http://willinolanspeaks.wordpress.com/council-of-elders-session-transcripts/

    http://www.hereonearth.ca/Here_On_Earth/Krow/Krow.html

    http://www.nben.ca/fr/ma-eco-communaute-du-nb/197-maxime-daigle/profile

    http://ohiocitizen.org/new-brunswick-ex-oil-worker-blasts-shale-gas-industry/

    http://www.gnb.ca/Commission/pdf/Shale_gas_exploration.pdf

    On 11/15/13, Joshua Skurnik <joshua.skurnik@sunmedia.ca> wrote:

    Rachel and Maxime Daigle, some are telling me that they are the real reason
    behind the Native uprising in Rexton. Thoughts?

    Josh

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Joshua Skurnik"<joshua.skurnik@sunmedia.ca>
    To: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:08 PM
    Subject: What do you have on Willi Nolan?

    Hi David,

    I'm doing an in-depth report on fracking in BC and the Maritimes, and
    one of the focuses is on the actual protestors involved in Rexton.

    For Willi Nolan, I have her Facebook page, the civil suit documents
    against her, and the Forbes article about her Tampon scam.

    Here are the links:

    http://www.forbes.com/global/1999/0517/0210033a.html

    https://www.facebook.com/willi.nolan

    Do you know if she is originally from California? Where is she based now?

    Any other information is greatly appreciated, thank you very much for your
    help.

    Josh


    JOSHUA SKURNIK | MOBILE JOURNALIST

    t 604.322.2360 | c (604).649.3011 | joshua.skurnik@sunmedia.ca

    24 West 2nd Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 1B3
    www.sunnewsnetwork.ca Sun News Network is Canada's home for Hard News
    and Straight Talk. Sun News Network is a division of Quebecor Media Inc.


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 23:56:53 -0300
    Subject: Re: Do you recognize these names?
    To: Joshua Skurnik <joshua.skurnik@sunmedia.ca>

    Cook

    On 10/28/13, Joshua Skurnik <joshua.skurnik@sunmedia.ca> wrote:
    > Thank you very much. Do you know which ones are administrators of Shale
    > Gas
    > Alerts NB, the Facebook group?
    >
    > Sent from my iPhone
    >
    >> On Oct 28, 2013, at 11:48 PM, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 10/28/13, Joshua Skurnik <joshua.skurnik@sunmedia.ca> wrote:
    >>> Loraine Clair Don't know her
    >>>
    >>> Jim Pictou Warrior General
    >>>
    >>> Seven Bernard Warrior
    >>>
    >>> Jason Okay Warrior
    >>>
    >>> Greg Cook Bullshitting writer from Saint John
    >>>
    >>> Wilhelmina ('Will') Nolan Nice skinny black/indina lady they call granny
    >>>
    >>> Melanie Elward Don't know her
    >>>
    >>> Ann Pohl Old woman loves to argue
    >>>
    >>> Rachel Dalgle Don't know her but she maybe that little french girl that
    >>> was arrested in June
    >>>
    >>> Suzanne Patles Young warrior with big mouth from Cape Breton
    >>>
    >>> I know that Pictou and Okay are part of the six who had bail hearings.
    >>> What about the others?
    >>>
    >>> Josh
    >>> P.S I died laughing watching you talk to Amy Sock
    >>>
    >>> JOSHUA SKURNIK | MOBILE JOURNALIST
    >>>
    >>> t 604.322.2360 | c (604).649.3011 | joshua.skurnik@sunmedia.ca
    >>>
    >>> 24 West 2nd Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 1B3
    >>> www.sunnewsnetwork.ca Sun News Network is Canada's home for Hard News
    >>> and
    >>> Straight Talk. Sun News Network is a division of Quebecor Media Inc.
    >>>
    >>>
    >


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: <hmc@mediacoop.ca>; "oldmaison"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>;
    "wendallnicholas"<wendallnicholas@gmail.com>; "john.warr"
    < john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; "premier"<premier@gov.ab.ca>;
    "Robert.Trevors"<Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca>; "marie-claude.blais"
    < marie-claude.blais@gnb.ca>; "markandcaroline"<markandcaroline@gmail.com>;
    "andre"<andre@jafaust.com>; "terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>;
    "acampbell"<acampbell@ctv.ca>; "steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>;
    < Andy.Campbell@bellmedia.ca>; <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:38 AM
    Subject: Re: I see that Miles Howe finally got around to calling me back
    Kinda late though EH Insp Warr?
    From: Andy Campbell <Andy.Campbell@bellmedia.ca>
    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:37:03 +0000
    Subject: Automatic reply: I see that Miles Howe finally got around to
    calling me back Kinda late though EH Insp Warr?
    To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

    I will be out of the Fredericton bureau until Monday, July 29, 2013.
    Should your matter require immediate attention, please contact Nick
    Moore at nmoore@bellmedia.ca or call our main newsroom at
    1-888-565-6397.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: <hmc@mediacoop.ca>; "oldmaison"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>;
    "wendallnicholas"<wendallnicholas@gmail.com>; "john.warr"
    < john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; "premier"<premier@gov.ab.ca>;
    "Robert.Trevors"<Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca>; "marie-claude.blais"
    < marie-claude.blais@gnb.ca>; "markandcaroline"<markandcaroline@gmail.com>;
    "andre"<andre@jafaust.com>; "terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>;
    "acampbell"<acampbell@ctv.ca>; "steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:37 AM
    Subject: I see that Miles Howe finally got around to calling me back
    Kinda late though EH Insp Warr?


    Organizer:Miles Howe (902-422-0097), Natascia Lypny (902-266-3678),
    hmc@mediacoop.ca

    http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2013/07/is-miles-howe-rcmp-rat.html

    Saturday, July 6, 2013
    Is Miles Howe a RCMP Rat?

    Is Halifax "media co-op""reporter a real journalist or a
    propagandist, or perhaps a RCMP rat? Injin "war chief" John Levi is in
    jail tonight, no doubt some inmate's "fuck buddy." Yet ersatz
    journalist Miles Howe who claims to be with "big chief" John Levi was
    not charged.

    No one actually reads or takes seriously the Halifax media co-op
    because it is not "media," but merely the shill for "activist causes",
    NGO's, and social agencies, in short a propaganda organ, akin to
    Isvestia or Pravda. Here in Alberta the "media co-op," doesn't exist,
    I wonder why?

    "By their fruits ye shall know them." Elsipogtog "war chief," and the
    minute number of Indian "activists"  have assaulted innocent work
    crews, burned  seismic vehicles, sawed  old growth trees to block
    roads, blockaded public thoroughfares, and have committee other
    violent, criminal, and legally defined terrorist acts. And these
    Indian animals try to pass all this off as "peaceful protest," or
    "cultural rituals."

    Preston Manning said many years ago, "if you turn on porch light, you
    will no doubt attract some bugs. Very few if any decent, or white
    people are attending these "native protests."

    But there is always an exception. Social welfare parasite, emotionally
    disturbed convicted criminal and self described "journalist" Charles
    Leblanc will, as he says; "will be there." Charles Leblanc "will be
    there" at the "protests in Kent County this Saturday morning. He will
    be there not because of any great "journalist" type motives, but
    merely because there will be a free "pot luck lunch" served. Whenever
    there is a "free lunch," involved you can count on our "citizen
    journalist," and self described "activist" Charles Leblanc elbowing
    everyone to get at the free food. "Potlucks" are where everyone
    contributes to dinner of lunch. You can count on Charles Leblanc to
    contribute absolutely nothing, as he is wont to do his entire misspent
    life. Even his parents had to ban him from the family home, because
    Charles was still mooching off them in his twenties.

    Again, "by their fruits ye shall know them."  Many of our so called
    "peaceful protesters have extensive criminal records, are addicts
    indulging their addictions around the "sacred fire" in the "sacred
    camp," and drinking "sacred firewater."

    None of these "native warriors," or "peacekeepers' or concerned about
    Mother Earth are educated, employed, or are in manner successful
    individuals. Their goal is to prevent jobs, employment, success,
    enhance education of children and an escape from that New Brunswick
    "cultural" traditions....pogey and equalization.

    These animals and folks like Charles Leblanc do NOT care about "Mother
    Earth," as much as they care about being fat, idle, ignorant and on
    the dole.

    So today, whilst Miles Howe, Charles Leblanc and the rest of the
    little Indian  boys, and squaws dine heartily on food purchase by
    social welfare...consider this? Who are the rats amongst you? So
    Wendall Nicholas, how does the new "peacekeeper T shirt fit? Be
    careful not to slop firewater on it!

    Pocohontas Amy Sock, baby! How about a nice half and half for thirty
    bucks? That would make "mother Earth" really happy, if not clapped and
    dosed up
    Posted by Seren at 9:47 AM

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: "hmc"<hmc@mediacoop.ca>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:46 AM
    Subject: Fwd Perhaps the wise old Indian Billy Lewis will ask me someday
    why I was laughing at the fact that two Newfys John Warr and his
    buddy/boss Roger Brown of J Division in RCMP are the ones in charge of
    the fracking battles with the "War Chief" John Levi

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:56:20 -0300
    Subject: Perhaps the wise old Indian Billy Lewis will ask me someday
    why I was laughing at the fact that two Newfys John Warr and his
    buddy/boss Roger Brown of J Division in RCMP are the ones in charge of
    the fracking battles with the "War Chief" John Levi
    To: oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, sbartone22r@gmail.com,
    kquinn@kairoscanada.org, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, "Jacques.Poitras"
    < Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "mckeen.randy"<mckeen.randy@gmail.com>,
    "mclaughlin.heather"<mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, minister
    < minister@aadnc-aandc.gc.ca>, "john.warr"<john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

    After watching the circus unfold for a couple of weeks and reading
    what the lawyer Amy Sock had to say I figured that it was High Time to
    give the Warrior Chief John Levi a ring to see if anyone had even
    mentioned my concerns and my ofers of assistance against the RCMP to
    him.

    Need I say that I was not surprised that John Levi like old Billy
    Lewis did not have the faintest notion as to who I was? To be fair I
    never heard of either of them until this month. However a simple search
    on the Internet will easily prove that most of their purported enemies and
    many of their supposed pals have known exactly who I am for many years.
    More importantlyy he has had many people around him lately who have
    been recieving the same emails as the RCMP. Top of the list would be the
    NDP, David Coon's Green Meanies, the Council of Canadians, the Sierra
    Club and of course Chucky Leblanc and his media pals in the the CBC CTV
    and the IRVING crowd.

    While waiting for a call back from John Levi I pasted together a
    couple of important emails I sent to John Warr beginning late last
    year hen I learned he in charge of the jurisdiction where I was born
    and raised and ran for a seat in Parliament while I was a friend and
    supporter of the nasty Newfy Byron Prior. Just like Chucky Leblanc,
    Barry Bachrach, Werner Bock, Mary Ann Hennen, Alex Hunter and
    several other the Newfy Byron Prior stabbed me in the back after he
    thought he made a deal to his advantage with some corrupt politicians.
    Seems that people never learn that cops, lawyers, politicians, bankers,
    bureaucrats and priests talk of ethical conduct but they are in fact
    the last people to be trusted.

    It has been a couple of hours since I called John Levi. He told me he
    was in a meeting with a bunch of his supporters and that he would call
    me back. I suggested that he mention my name to his friends and see
    if any of them admitted to knowing of me. Almost instantly I noticed two
    hits to the most relevant blog about John Levi's doings. Methinks there
    are no coincidences. I will not bother him anymore and merely give him
    the benefit of my doubts. I truly hope that Levi calls me back. However
    I am not betting on it. People so seldom do.

    http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/06/fwd-oh-dear-alward-and-cohorts-should.html

    A visitor from Canada left "The David Amos Rant: Fwd: Oh Dear Alward
    and cohorts should be nervous now that the Indians, Greg Renouf, John
    Bennett, Michel DesNeiges and Maude Barlow have "Issues" with your
    buddy N'esy Pas Chucky Leblanc?" via justicedonedirtch eap.blogspot.ca
    1 hour 51 mins ago

    A visitor from Canada arrived from google.com and viewed "The David
    Amos Rant: Fwd: Oh Dear Alward and cohorts should be nervous now that
    the Indians, Greg Renouf, John Bennett, Michel DesNeiges and Maude
    Barlow have "Issues" with your buddy N'esy Pas Chucky Leblanc?" 2
    hours 4 mins ago


    Whether John Levi ever calls me back or not at least like old Billy
    Lewis and the nasty Roger Augustine  he now knows that I exist and
    that amongst our common foes today are two cops from the "Rock"
    John Warr and his boss Roger Brown. A funny part of our converstion
    to me was that John Levi said he knew who Leonard Peltier was but
    did not know Billy Lewis. Levi's answer was he was new to this stuff?
    Yet Billy Lewis claimed he was at the sacred fire in New Brunswick very
    recently. Perhaps Levi did not understand me I don't know. I do know for
    sure Billy Lewis never called me back and Angela Giles suddenly took a
    vacation. Go Figure. These are just some of their many words that I have
    read. I bet these people must have read a few of mine sent directly to
    them after calling them as well.

    http://canadians.org/media/water/2013/14-Jun-13.html

    "Where is the media?" asks Angela Giles, Atlantic regional organizer
    with the Council of Canadians. "And how is this democracy? The New
    Brunswick government has not been given the mandate to move ahead with
    shale gas development. The RCMP are paid with public money and then
    are assigned to protect private interests over the interests of the
    people... This is not right."

    Billy Lewis, Mi'kmaq elder, also visited and prayed at the Sacred Fire
    in Elsipogtog yesterday. "This is Indigenous land and there is a duty
    to consult Mi'kmaq and Maliseet, and they weren't consulted. These
    actions affect the land, the treaties and all of us."

    http://rabble.ca/rabbletv/program-guide/2013/06/best-net/video-john-levi-and-amy-sock-call-solidarity-against-frackin

    http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/council-canadians/2013/06/peaceful-resistance-to-shale-gas-nb-may-soon-come-to-head

    http://kairoshalifax.wordpress.com/2013/06/13/urgent-call-for-support-of-a-treaty-assertion-action-initiated-by-the-mikmaq-in-elsipogtog-big-cove-new-brunswick/

    http://www.cfne.org/modules/news/index.php?start=60

    http://nbharbinger.wordpress.com/category/new-brunswick/

    http://halifax.mediacoop.ca/video/plea-immediate-assistance-elsipogtog-war-chief-joh/18028

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2013/06/23/nb-fracking-protesters.html

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2013/06/22/ns-shale-gas-protestors-charged.html

    http://www.gnb.ca/hrc-cdp/e/d/43.0%20E%20HR-003-07%20Sock%20v%20Legal%20Aid%20New%20Brunswick%20Board%20of%20Inquiry.pdf

    http://lefteyex.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/new-shale-gas-rules-put-the-cart-before-the-horse/

    Perhaps the RCMP and anyone else who understands that politicians and
    lawyers are monumental liars and is truly interested in justice should
    scrolll down

    Clearly on May 31st of this year I reminded the two Newfy RCMP bosses that I
    knew they were they were in my old stomping grounds and I was paying
    attention as I remindded them about my dongs with their old buddy Byron
    Prior.

    You can bet I made many calls and sent many emails before and after thirty
    some people have needlessly gotten themselves arrested..I suspected that
    John
    Warr is the unamed boss in the Irish Town Community Hall. At least no
    corrupt
    cop has denied it yet. Trust that the RCMP and legions of others in many
    countries know my  issues with public corruption, the RCMP, banksters and
    the Greasey Gassy Oily guys go way back in time. The RCMP attacked me
    LONG before John Levi and his little band of fellow "native warriors"
    decided to
    seize a Stantec truck that is used in SWN Resources' shale gas work . At
    first I
    thought it comical that John Levi wold pick a fight like that then allow the
    local RCMP to take the truck and park it at their local cop shop so they
    could surround it there. However who am I to judge? Nobody has the balls to
    even say my name. Levi's actions did make the National News byway of a
    little Pow Wow with the other questionable CROWN Corp known as the CBC
    and the very next day they had quite a sizable fan club..On the otherhand I
    have
    no fans at all who are willing admit in public that I even exist. Yet there
    are lots of evil trolls on the Internet who are more that willing to
    harrass slander and threaten my family and I for the benefit of the RCMP and
    their political puppetmasters and their corporate sponsors etc. Of that I
    have
    no doubt.

    If the RCMP would harass litterly hundreds of their own members and even
    kill citizens that they puportedly serve and protect why it is unbelievable
    to
    think they would attack a whistleblower trying hard to expose their many
    wrongs?

    If you doubt me ask John Warr and Roger Brown about Byron Prior and I and
    laugh as watch the play dumb or run away from you.  FYI What I was trying
    to telll John Levi on the phone is that all any anti fracking protester has
    to do
    to make the CROWN stay the charges against them is to simply serve some of
    my documents on the RCMP. I was telling many others to watch Werner Bock
    and his UFO arguments with the CROWN this week. I suspect that pigheaded
    old farmer and newborn Nazi supporter would rather lose his farm than admit
    I
    was correct about Byron Prior and their many political friends. Where will
    his
    pals be if Bock gets his nasty arse locked up as nut just like it has
    happened
    twice before?

    Trust that I will never come to his defense again but I may sue the CROWN
    about
    my cattle. Section 444 is stilll on the books CORRECT?

    Anyway all of this political bullsit about natural resources reminds me of
    the actions of  AIM and the FBI in Pine Ridge back in the 1970s. Many people
    wound up MURDERED including a AN ETHICAL Mic Mac lady and now at least one
    of her daughters is a member of the RCMP. Go figure why I wonder what Anna
    Mae's daughter thinks as her fellow cops attack her Mother's people in our
    Native Land instead of the US of A EH?

    Politically speaking Harper and everybody else want to forget what I said
    about NaTural Gas, Natural Resources and NAFTA etc when I ran for Parliament
    in the the area in 2004.

    Perhaps the RCMP should study a LOTof documents and perpare to argue me
    while ordinary folks review an IRVING News Rag trying to make fun of my
    concerns in 2004 N'esy Pas?

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 02:13:34 -0300
    Subject: Re Potash and the boss of BHP Billiton, Mr Harper and a host
    of Green Meanies versus Mean Old me
    To: nomadicgatherings@gmail.com, markbonokoski@gmail.com,
    thecos@teksavvy.com, thecos@the-wire.com
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
    leader <leader@greenparty.ca>

    ---- Original Message -----
    From: "McKnight, Gisele"McKnight.Gisele@kingscorecord.com
    To: lcampenella@ledger.com
    Cc:motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
    Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:53 PM
    Subject: David Amos

    Hello Lisa,

    David Amos asked me to contact you. I met him last June after he became
    an independent (not representing any political party) candidate in our
    federal
    election that was held June 28. He was a candidate in our constituency of
    Fundy (now called  Fundy-Royal).

    I wrote a profile story about him, as I did all other candidates. That
    story appeared in the Kings County Record June 22. A second story, written
    by one of my reporters, appeared on the same date, which was a report on
    the candidates' debate held June 18.

    As I recall David Amos came last of four candidates in the election.
    The winner got 14,997 votes, while Amos got 358.

    I have attached the two stories that appeared, as well as a photo
    taken by reporter Erin Hatfield during the debate. I couldn't find the photo
    that ran, but this one is very similar.


    A1-debate A1-amos,David for MP 24.doc debate 2.JPG

    Gisele McKnight editor
    Kings County Record
    Sussex, New Brunswick
    Canada
    506-433-1070


    Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd

    By Erin Hatfield

    "If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your
    world is all screwed up, rearrange it."

    The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at
    the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to
    watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if
    unofficial, theme song for the debate.

    The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as
    they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn.
    Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue
    chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent
    left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty,
    mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards
    the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat."


    Cutline - David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his
    favourite possessions--motorcycles.

    McKnight/KCR

    The Unconventional Candidate

    David Amos Isn't Campaigning For Your Vote, But....

    By Gisele McKnight

    FUNDY--He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his
    wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone
    that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."


    "Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.

    "I didn't appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door
    interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can
    call me. I'm not going to drive my opinions down their throats."

    And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.

    "I won't take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It's
    not about money. It goes against what I'm fighting about."

    What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues - tainted blood,
    the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to
    name a few.

    "The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs - fishing,
    farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm
    death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it
    (NAFTA) out the window.

    NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an
    easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.

    Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.

    "There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me,
    especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right.
    Don't necessarily vote for me, but vote."


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: <wuestl@nbnet.nb.ca>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:39 PM
    Subject: Mr Wuest i just called from 902 800 0369 Lots of your friends know
    exactly who I am


    http://www.cbc.ca/informationmorningfredericton/2013/07/17/mining-interests-blamed/

    http://www.nashwaakwatershed.ca/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Communique-classification-des-eaux.pdf

    Lawrence Wuest 367 2280

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: <hraper@mlpi.ca>; <news@959sunfm.com>; <umoe@umoe.no>; "bruce.northrup"
    < bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>; "briangallant10"<briangallant10@gmail.com>;
    "Bill.Fraser"<Bill.Fraser@gnb.ca>; "oldmaison"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>;
    "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>; <dblenkhorn@mlb.ca>; "premier"
    < premier@gnb.ca>; "john.green"<john.green@gnb.ca>; "Jacques.Poitras"
    < Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>; "acampbell"<acampbell@ctv.ca>; "jb"
    < jb@sierraclub.ca>; "leader"<leader@greenparty.ca>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:33 PM
    Subject: Mr Raper Say Hey to Harry Steele's new local news men or Chucky
    Leblanc and hs pals Coon, Fraser, Trevors, Alward, Northrup and Sequin for
    me


    I find it interesting that because CBC has ignored their mandate since
    2002 people don't think I am for real

    http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mr-raper-i-know-for-fact-i-can-help.html

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2012/03/30/nb-forestry-plan-northrup-924.html

    From: Elizabeth May <leader@greenparty.ca>
    Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:45:47 -0700
    Subject: Thank you for your message / Merci pour votre courriel Re: Oh
    My My A Wealthy family in Norway UMO/Fornebu have helped the Irvings
    pick a fight in my old stomping grounds EH Mr Gallant?
    To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

    Thank you for your email. We will work to ensure that a response is
    sent to you as soon as possible.

    For invitations or meeting requests, please email ea@greenparty.ca.
    For media inquiries, please email media@greenparty.ca.

    Nous vous remercions d'avoir pris le temps de nous écrire. Nous ne
    ménagerons aucun effort pour vous transmettre notre réponse dans les
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    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:18:43 -0300
    Subject: Fwd: Mr Raper I know for a fact I can help with your trouble
    with Irving's greed and Northrups inaction in support of it
    To: hraper@mlpi.ca, "umoe@umoe.no \"news\""<news@959sunfm.com>,
    "terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>,
    oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "bruce.northrup"
    < bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, "Bill.Fraser"<Bill.Fraser@gnb.ca>


    My number is 902 800 0369

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2013/07/23/nb-irving-investment-miramichi-619.html

    http://www.cbc.ca/informationmorningfredericton/2013/07/23/miramichi-mill/

    http://www.workingforest.com/fornebu-mill-nb-receives-25-m-provincial-loan/

    http://www.mlb.ca/members_producers.html

    Miramichi Timber - Boiestown

    OFFICE
    25 Jane St.
    Miramichi, NB, E1V 2S6
    Telephone: 506-627-9971
    Fax: 506-622-6308
    Email: hraper@mlpi.ca
    Contact: Hal Raper



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: <umoe@umoe.no>; "bruce.northrup"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>;
    "briangallant10"<briangallant10@gmail.com>; "Bill.Fraser"
    < Bill.Fraser@gnb.ca>; "oldmaison"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>; "Davidc.Coon"
    < Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>; <hraper@mlpi.ca>; <dblenkhorn@mlb.ca>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; "premier"<premier@gnb.ca>;
    "john.green"<john.green@gnb.ca>; "Jacques.Poitras"
    < Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>; "acampbell"<acampbell@ctv.ca>; "jb"
    < jb@sierraclub.ca>; "leader"<leader@greenparty.ca>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:45 PM
    Subject: Oh My My A Wealthy family in Norway UMO/Fornebu have helped the
    Irvings pick a fight in my old stomping grounds EH Mr Gallant?


    Too too funny Big bad Billy Fraser has to send his news release to
    Chucky Leblanc because the Irvings won't print it?

    http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/2013/07/leader-of-green-party-david-coon.html

    Your pals David Coon and Chucky Leblanc will talk off Umoe all day but
    they will never explain these videos N'esy Pas Brucy baby Northrup?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7c4VjtY3-M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Ir55k6kMY

    http://www.umoe.com/the-company/management/

    http://www.mlb.ca/members_producers.html

    http://www.miramichionline.com/miramichi-news-fornebu-lumber-company-allowcated-40000m3-of-hardwood-pulp-wood-for-export-to-overseas-markets/

    http://www.workingforest.com/fornebu-mill-nb-receives-25-m-provincial-loan/

    http://eng.itfornebu.no/executive-management/

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:12:32 -0300
    Subject: Say hello to the "Gov" Ricky Baby Perry for me Howie You
    SOUTHERN Yankee bastards hang to far many innocent people to suit mean
    old me
    To: paul.paulos@ci.stpaul.mn.us, howie.padilla@ci.stpaul.mn.us,
    campaign@rickperry.org
    Cc: DAvid R Amos <davidr_amos@yahoo.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"
    < Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, newstips <newstips@cnn.com>

    Texans for Rick Perry
    815-A Brazos Street, PMB 217
    Austin, TX 78701

    Phone:

    512-478-3276


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    http://o.canada.com/2013/07/17/mike-allen-mla-prostitution/

    Howie Padilla
    Public Information Coordinator

    Office: 651-266-5735

     Before joining the Saint Paul Police Department as Public Information
    Coordinator for in August of 2011, he spent four years serving in
    communications roles at Saint Paul Public Schools. He also spent seven
    years reporting on Public Safety and Justice issues at the Star
    Tribune following graduation from the University of North Dakota where
    he majored in Communications.

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    Public Information Officer
    Office: 651-266-5639

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:40:29 -0300
    Subject: Mr Campbell mett Mr Bauer say hello to Mr Obama lawyer and
    our Attorney general Mr Mackay for me will ya?
    To: paul.williams@ci.stpaul.mn.us, joe.campbell@ci.stpaul.mn.us,
    RBauer <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca>
    Cc: David Amos <myson333@yahoo.com>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>,
    highwood <highwood@assembly.ab.ca>, "fortmcmurray.woodbuffalo"
    < fortmcmurray.woodbuffalo@assembly.ab.ca>

    Just so ya my Scottish ancestors told us to NEVER trust a poltician
    named Campbell

    Paul Williams
    Mayor's Staff
    Title: Deputy Mayor
    Phone: (651) 266-8569

    Joe Campbell
    Mayor's Staff
    Title: Director of Communications
    Phone: (651) 266-8518

    Bruce Northrup unveils new forestry plan
    Annual allowable cut for softwood lumber remains the same
    CBC News
    Posted: Mar 30, 2012 9:44 AM AT

    Natural Resources Minister Bruce Northrup is holding the line on the
    annual allowable cut for softwood lumber in the provincial
    government's new forestry policy.

    Northrup made the long-awaited announcement today in Fredericton.

    The annual allowable cut for softwood, such as spruce, fir and jack
    pine, is 3.27 million cubic metres, which is the same annual allowable
    cut as in the 2007-2012 management plan.

    Northrup said the department's projections show the annual allowable
    cut for softwood lumber can be maintained at the existing level.

    "All our information indicates there will be a rapidly growing wood
    supply beginning around 2030 as these managed stands mature,''
    Northrup said.

    "Until then, we are confident there will be enough wood to at least
    maintain the softwood AAC at the present level and that is our
    objective.''

    Meanwhile, the Department of Natural Resources is cutting the annual
    allowable cut for hardwood to 1.41 million cubic metres from 1.77
    million cubic metres in the 2007-2012 plan. The 21 per cent reduction
    will ensure a sustainable hardwood supply in the future, according to
    the department.

    "It would be in no one's interest to harvest hardwood species at a
    level that would require an even larger AAC reduction in the future,
    the natural resources minister said.

    "This reduction is necessary and, at the same time, it represents an
    opportunity for the province's private woodlot sector to sell more
    wood into the marketplace, which is a top priority for our
    government.''

    Northrup said his forest management plan is "balanced." He said it
    would help support the environment and maintain jobs in the industry.

    "It strikes the best balance possible while preserving jobs in rural
    and northern New Brunswick, where forestry remains a major employer
    and a $2.7-billion industry," he said.

    The forest management plan also outlined how:

    the amount of forested Crown land designated as protected natural
    areas is increased to eight per cent.
    28 per cent of Crown forest is designated as "conservation forest."
    "non-clearcut harvesting measures" would be implemented.
    The management plan starts in April 2012 and continues until March 31,
    2022. The 10-year plan is double the normal length of the previous
    forest management plans.

    Northrup said the recommendation for a longer management plan came
    from a government-appointed management plan.

    "The Crown Land Task Force on timber objectives recommended we move to
    a 10-year planning cycle in order to provide greater certainty on
    allocation levels as well as commitments to conservation measures,''
    Northrup said.

    The natural resources minister said the longer plan will give more
    predictability for the forest industry.

    The Alward government hired two task forces to study Crown land and
    private land task force.

    Environmental support
    David Coon, left, said Natural Resources Minister Bruce Northrup's
    forest management strategy is an improvement. (CBC)
    Northrup's plan received some cautious praise from the province's
    largest environmental group.

    David Coon, the executive director of the Conservation Council of New
    Brunswick, said he has concerns with the forest management strategy,
    but said it is a vast improvement.

    "The plan they released today is far better than what the industry was
    lobbying for and it is far better than what the Liberals had proposed
    when they were they government, he said.

    "But it is moving in the wrong direction for most New Brunswickers who
    say their number one priority areas are to protect water and to
    protect wildlife."

    Coon said he's concerned about a reduction of deer wintering areas and
    the size of buffer zones around water courses.

    The forest, which is set aside for habitat zones and watercourse
    buffers, will be reduced to 28 per cent from 30.5 per cent, Coon said.

    Industry concerns
    Robert Fawcett, the director of forestry relations for J.D. Irving
    Ltd., said the forest management plan will mean two mills will remain
    closed. (CBC)
    Several forest operations in the province have closed in recent months
    because in the uncertainty of the industry.

    Robert Fawcett, the director of forestry relations for J.D. Irving
    Ltd., said its Clair and Deersdale mills will remain closed. He blamed
    the extended closure on cost uncertainty in the government's plan.

    He said the company is "really concerned" about the impact on its
    employees and the communities where its mills operate.

    "For us at the moment, our mill capital expansions are put on hold,
    Fawcett said.

    "We are not going to be able to invest in our facilities today until
    we hear a more certain number in terms of the wood that is going to be
    available for those facilities."

    The closure of the Deersdale mill near Juniper put more than 70 people
    out of work in October.

    Another 73 people were put out of work in September when J.D. Irving
    closed its mill in Clair.

    The forest industry had been lobbying to make sure the annual
    allowable cut was not reduced.

    Last June, J.D. Irving Ltd. organized a petition campaign aimed at
    provincial politicians that said hundreds of jobs were at stake if the
    provincial government reduces allowable cuts of some types of trees by
    25 per cent.

    Fawcett said J.D. Irving Ltd. is very concerned about the new
    standards that are being put in place, which will make it more
    expensive to cut trees in the province.

    "We need to be very concerned about the implementation about these new
    standards that DNR is putting in place by April 1. These new standards
    will increase the cost of harvesting wood significantly," he said.

    The new standards will mean younger and smaller trees will be cut,
    Fawcett said, which will increase the cost to log, transport and then
    process the trees.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2013/07/23/nb-irving-investment-miramichi-619.html

    Miramichi mill has plenty of wood, Irving says
    J.Dr. Irving Ltd. spokeswoman says company is not to blame for mill shutdown
    By Jacques Poitras, CBC News
    Posted: Jul 23, 2013 6:50 AM AT

    J.D. Irving Ltd. is forcefully rejecting suggestions that a shift of
    some Crown wood to their Chipman mill is to blame for the looming
    shutdown of a Miramichi sawmill.

    Irving spokesperson Mary Keith says Miramichi Lumber Products has
    plenty of its own allocation on Crown lands that it hasn't used.

    Miramichi Lumber CFO Hal Raper previously told CBC News that the
    licensee operating the public forests in the Miramichi area, Fornebu,
    was allowing saw logs to go to JDI, depriving the local mill of that
    wood.

    The Miramichi Lumber Products mill announced on Friday it was closing
    because of a shortage of Crown wood. (CBC)
    That prompted a strongly-worded statement from Keith, who called the
    suggestion "absolutely false."

    "Our company has in fact been working with Miramichi Lumber Products
    to buy their wood chips and send saw logs to their mill," said Keith.
    "The allocations are a matter of public record and we are fully
    compliant."

    She said Miramichi Lumber "have never harvested the full amount
    allocated to them" in any of the last four years.

    The company has not operated year-round in any of the last four years,
    which may explain why it hasn't used all of its allocation.

    Forestry firms eye $1B in spending, J.D. Irving Ltd. says
    Miramichi Lumber Products mill shuts down again
    Miramichi Lumber said last week it would shut down this Friday, laying
    off 110 people, because it's only been able to secure 40 per cent of
    its allocation of wood from publicly-owned forest land.

    "Everybody wants more wood," Raper said on Monday. "I think the
    government has to decide what their priority is and who they're going
    to support."

    Raper said Fornebu was able to send logs to Irving because the
    province wasn't enforcing usage standards, which set out how much of
    the tree can be used for saw logs and how much for stud logs.

    'All the allocated users are getting their allocation today as the
    government dictates.'--Fornebu CEO Kevin Jewett
    For the second straight day, the Department of Natural Resources has
    not made anyone available to respond to Raper's comments or to clarify
    the complex rules surrounding the use of Crown land.

    Fornebu CEO Kevin Jewett also rejected Raper's allegations, saying
    Miramichi Lumber is free to cut the wood it needs.

    "All the allocated users are getting their allocation today as the
    government dictates," he said. "So J.D. Irving is getting the wood
    they have the right to take, and MLPI, Hal Raper's mill, has been
    given access to the wood that they have the right to take."

    Miramichi Mayor Gerry Cormier told CBC News that cabinet minister
    Robert Trevors, a Miramichi-area MLA, has promised a fix that will
    keep Miramichi Lumber running for four to five weeks.

    But Cormier could not say where the wood supply will come from. "You'd
    have to ask the minister."

    Irving demand for wood supply
    Mary Keith, a J.D. Irving Ltd. vice-president, said the company is not
    receiving more wood than it should be from Crown licence. (CBC)
    Raper's comments came as J.D. Irving Ltd. continued its ongoing push
    to get the province to commit to increasing the Crown wood supply for
    industry over a longer term.

    Last year, Natural Resources Minister Bruce Northrup announced he was
    keeping the annual allowable softwood cut at the same level. He also
    doubled the normal management plan from five years to 10, to give
    companies more predictability.

    Irving says that's an improvement, but it doesn't go far enough. Keith
    said it doesn't provide "the long-term certainty of wood supply to
    warrant hundreds of millions of dollars of investment.

    "We need to know the government is interested and is working to grow
    the wood supply."

    Keith says JDI is one of several forestry companies prepared to invest
    a total of almost $1 billion in its facilities, but only if the wood
    supply is secure. She said that would include a major upgrade to the
    company's Saint John pulp mill.

    "We need a longer-term view and a longer-term determination of what
    the timber objectives, what the timber supply is going to be, so we
    can go forward with investments," Keith said.

    Green Party Leader David Coon criticized Irving's "unrelenting demand"
    for more wood, pointing to the looming closure of Miramichi Lumber as
    a casualty of the company's constant push for growth.

    "It's not a question of wood supply," Coon said. "It's a question of
    competition for the wood between the big guys and the independents."

    http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/

    Tuesday, July 23, 2013

    Leader of the Green Party David Coon explains to Blogger of the Crisis
    in the Miramichi lumber Market!!!!

    Here's the News Release from Liberal MLA Bill Fraser!!


    July 22, 2013

    Hon. David Alward
    Premier - Province of  New Brunswick
    PO Box 6000
    Fredericton, NB  E3B 5H1

    RE:  Miramichi Lumber Crown Allocation

    Dear Mr. Premier,

    After meeting with officials and employees from Miramichi Lumber on
    Thursday and Friday of last week, I feel it necessary to ask for your
    immediate intervention into the dire situation they are facing
    regarding their crown wood allocation.  It is my understanding that
    the licensee, Fornebu, is not following DNR's utilization standard for
    saw log allocation.

    The employees were notified on Wednesday that the mill would be
    closing effective this Friday July 26th, until the saw log allocation
    is enforced to the level that will allow the mill to operate. Mr.
    Premier, that is more than 110 employees facing unemployment in an
    area that has already been hit hard by job loss.

    Mr. Premier, in 2010 after you were elected Premier of New Brunswick,
    you came to Miramichi and said "we have been saying for a long time
    that the Miramichi wood basket must remain in Miramichi for economic
    development and job creation. And from day 1 of forming a government
    we will be completely focused on this with and for the residents of
    the Miramichi and for the private wood lot owners as well, who must
    play a part in the future of the region" (as reported in Miramichi
    Leader).

    The Miramichi region once had several mills operating, each with
    adequate access to crown wood and thus, thousands of jobs were
    sustained. Today we have two mills operating in Miramichi; Arbec and
    Miramichi Lumber, with one facing a closure.

    I am at a loss to understand how you can justify the comments you made
    in 2010 when now, the actions of your government completely contradict
    your previous position and will in turn force the mill to shut down.
    It is your government that cannot find enough crown wood in the
    Miramichi wood basket to sustain these operations.

    From discussions I have had with stakeholders in the industry, I
    understand that there is more than enough wood in the Miramichi wood
    basket to supply the needs of Arbec, Miramichi Lumber and the former
    plywood mill in Nelson who I have been told are also experiencing
    difficulty in obtaining enough crown wood to allow them to re-open
    (under new ownership).

    The Miramichi region has been hit extremely hard and, Mr. Premier, we
    simply cannot afford to lose one more job. I am urging you to
    immediately intervene in this very serious situation to prevent these
    110 + employees from unemployment, and leaving our Province in order
    to provide for their families.

    If there is anything I can do to assist you in this effort, please, do
    not hesitate to ask. I am more than willing to work together on this
    matter to see a resolution that will save jobs and sustain the
    operations of the Miramichi Lumber Mill.

    Sincerely,

    Bill Fraser, MLA - Miramichi Bay Du Vin
    Official Opposition House Leader
    Critic - Department of Transportation & Infrastructure / Government Services

    http://www.workingforest.com/fornebu-mill-nb-receives-25-m-provincial-loan/

    Fornebu mill in N.B. receives $2.5 M provincial loan
    July 04, 2011
    By: Telegraph-Journal

    A $2.5 million loan for Fornebu Lumber was approved on June 16, not
    long before the province announced it would buy Fornebu parent Umoe
    Solar's Miramichi assets.

    The loan is listed on the same order-in-council (OIC) document that
    authorized the government to buy Umoe Solar's assets, although the two
    do not otherwise appear linked.

    Business New Brunswick spokeswoman Marie-Josee Groulx said the loan
    was not linked to negotiations that eventually saw the Umoe purchase
    price reduced from $17 million to $10.8 million.

    "It's just on the same OIC," said Groulx, who stated she'd been told
    by Economic Development Minister Paul Robichaud. "We treat them as two
    separate entities. Fornebu is its own operating thing, and Umoe was
    its own case file."

    The loan will go toward the Bathurst sawmill owned by Fornebu since
    taking over all of UPM-Kymmene's former New Brunswick properties,
    including the Miramichi site. It is for a period of six years, and
    Groulx said the money would be used for a new biomass boiler for the
    plant, which currently uses more expensive propane for heat.

    The OIC also authorizes the government to buy up the assets at the
    site of Umoe Solar's formerly planned polysilicon plant, for a price
    of up to $17 million.

    That deal was made in 2009 by the former Liberal government, to come
    into effect if Umoe Solar had not gone ahead with its planned plant by
    January 2011.

    Groulx said at the time of the OIC, June 16, the final deal to knock
    the price down to $10.8 million hadn't been finalized.

    "At that point, we were still on the hook for up to $17 million, as
    part of the original agreement, but they were able to negotiate
    downwards," she said.

    Although Umoe Solar is no more, Fornebu continues to manage the
    enormous Crown License 3 formerly managed by UPM.

    Miramichi - Bay du Vin MLA Bill Fraser, who was part of the Liberal
    government that made the $17 million purchase deal, said Fornebu's
    control of the license was linked to creating jobs in Miramichi.

    Now that the planned polysilicon plant is no longer a go, he said,
    Fornebu's management of the license should be revoked. He said the
    Natural Resources Department should take over managing the license,
    with Fornebu remaining as a sublicensee.

    "If Fornebu is creating jobs, and I believe they are, and
    opportunities in the Miramichi region, and I believe they are, I think
    that they should continue to use that wood at that site," he said.
    "But ... they shouldn't be running the entire allocation. That should
    be immediately taken away."

    Fraser said he was not made aware of the $17 million purchase deal at
    the time it was made in 2009, saying that would have been a cabinet
    decision.

    He argued the polysilicon plant project failed due to global factors
    beyond anyone's control, though he said the failure of the NB Power
    deal made matters worse.

    He criticized Robichaud for slamming the $17 million purchase
    agreement as a "bad deal" for taxpayers.

    "I'm very disappointed in Paul Robichaud, you know, criticizing
    everything we've done to help the Miramichi."

    Department of Natural Resources (DNR) spokeswoman Anne Bull Monteith
    said Fornebu has been the manager of the license since 2009. It is
    next up for review in March 2012 and does not expire until 2022.

    When asked about whether Fornebu could have its license revoked,
    Monteith would only say that was not being considered.

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:47:13 -0300
    Subject: EMERA is in constant contact with the regulator the National
    Energy Board???? Gee who the hell has the Green Meanie Horst Sauerteig
    talked to that I did not?
    To: oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "mckeen.randy"
    < mckeen.randy@gmail.com>, news@959sunfm.com, xchief
    < xchief@bell.blackberry.net>, minister <minister@aadnc-aandc.gc.ca>,
    premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, "marie-claude.blais"
    < marie-claude.blais@gnb.ca>, "john.warr"<john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
    "bernadine.chapman"<bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
    mjs837@nyu.edu, hmc <hmc@mediacoop.ca>, wendallnicholas
    < wendallnicholas@gmail.com>, ppalmater
    < ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca>, jrebick <jrebick@politics.ryerson.ca>
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Gary.Rhodes"
    < Gary.Rhodes@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "gary.forward"
    < gary.forward@fredericton.ca>, "Michelle.Boutin"
    < Michelle.Boutin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, highwood <highwood@assembly.ab.ca>,
    "fortmcmurray.woodbuffalo"<fortmcmurray.woodbuffalo@assembly.ab.ca>,
    deanr0032 <deanr0032@hotmail.com>, eachtem <eachtem@hotmail.com>,
    gplant <gplant@heenan.ca>

    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 20:29:46 -0300
    Subject: Re: EMERA is in constant contact with the regulator the
    National Energy Board???? Gee who the hell has the Green Meanies Horst
    Sauerteig talked to that I did not?
    To: Horst Sauerteig <sauertwo@nb.sympatico.ca>
    Cc: sheila.leggett@neb-one.gc.ca, "chris.huskilson"
    < chris.huskilson@emera.com>, "dave.eby@gmail.com \"joe.oliver.c1\""
    < joe.oliver.c1@parl.gc.ca>, "Dina.Bartolacci"
    < Dina.Bartolacci@emera.com>, "Robert.Trevors"<Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca>,
    "bruce.northrup"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, musoviczl@repsol.com,
    pribbeck@repsol.com, vcmorrissettem@repsol.com, ottawa@mofa.gov.qa,
    premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
    elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca, gplant <gplant@heenan.ca>,
    ngodbout@lawsoncreamer.com, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>,
    david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, stephen.aftanas@emera.com,
    Scott.Balfour@emera.com, "rob.bennett"<rob.bennett@emera.com>,
    mel.norton@saintjohn.ca, Kevin.Clifford@saintjohn.ca

    FUCK YOU Sauerteig  I don't need your consent

    ---------- Original message ----------
    From: Horst Sauerteig <sauertwo@nb.sympatico.ca>
    Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:49:45 -0400
    Subject: Re: EMERA is in constant contact with the regulator the
    National Energy Board???? Gee who the hell has the Green Meanies Horst
    Sauerteig talked to that I did not?
    To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
    sheila.leggett@neb-one.gc.ca, "chris.huskilson"
    < chris.huskilson@emera.com>, "dave.eby@gmail.com \"joe.oliver.c1\""
    < joe.oliver.c1@parl.gc.ca>, "Dina.Bartolacci"
    < Dina.Bartolacci@emera.com>, "Robert.Trevors"<Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca>,
    "bruce.northrup"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, musoviczl@repsol.com,
    pribbeck@repsol.com, vcmorrissettem@repsol.com, ottawa@mofa.gov.qa,
    premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
    elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca, gplant <gplant@heenan.ca>,
    ngodbout@lawsoncreamer.com, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>
    Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, stephen.aftanas@emera.com,
    Scott.Balfour@emera.com, "rob.bennett"<rob.bennett@emera.com>,
    mel.norton@saintjohn.ca, Kevin.Clifford@saintjohn.ca

    Please note that Mr. Amos sent this e-mail without my knowledge and/or
    consent.

    Horst Sauerteig, Wednesday, July 17, 2013

    http://www.cbc.ca/informationmorningfredericton/2013/07/17/mining-interests-blamed/

    http://www.nashwaakwatershed.ca/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Communique-classification-des-eaux.pdf

    Lawrence Wuest 367 2280

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:21:38 -0300
    Subject: Do you people want my help YET???
    To: CHenschel@cpaws.org, media@cpaws.org, cpawsnb@nb.sympatico.ca,
    rclowater@cpaws.org
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

    http://www.cbc.ca/informationmorningfredericton/2013/07/15/protected-areas/

    http://cpaws.org/news/chapter/nb

    Media contact:

    Ellen Adelberg
    Director of Communications
    (613)569-7226 ext. 234
    media@cpaws.org

    http://www.nben.ca/en/collaborative-action/news-from-groups/itemlist/user/212-Contact:

    Roberta Clowater, 506-452-9902;
    cpawsnb@nb.sympatico.ca



    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 04:45:05 -0300
    Subject: EMERA is in constant contact with the regulator the National
    Energy Board???? Gee who the hell has the Green Meanies Horst
    Sauerteig talked to that I did not?
    To: sheila.leggett@neb-one.gc.ca, sauertwo@nb.sympatico.ca,
    "chris.huskilson"<chris.huskilson@emera.com>, "dave.eby@gmail.com
    \"joe.oliver.c1\""<joe.oliver.c1@parl.gc.ca>, "Dina.Bartolacci"
    < Dina.Bartolacci@emera.com>, "Robert.Trevors"<Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca>,
    "bruce.northrup"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, musoviczl@repsol.com,
    pribbeck@repsol.com, vcmorrissettem@repsol.com, ottawa@mofa.gov.qa,
    premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
    elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca, gplant <gplant@heenan.ca>,
    ngodbout@lawsoncreamer.com, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>
    Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, stephen.aftanas@emera.com,
    Scott.Balfour@emera.com, "rob.bennett"<rob.bennett@emera.com>,
    mel.norton@saintjohn.ca, Kevin.Clifford@saintjohn.ca

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op2bmd-XXHc

    http://www.cbc.ca/informationmorningsaintjohn/2013/07/15/city-not-prepared-for-oil-disaster-possibilites/

    Horst Sauerteig
    88 Bedell Avenue
    Saint John, NB E2K 2C4
    Telephone .(506) 658-1326

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2013/07/15/nb-emera-brunswick-pipeline-safety-717.html

    http://brunswickpipeline.com/en/home/ourbusiness/boardofdirectors.aspx

    http://lawsoncreamer.com/lawyers/nathalie-godbout/

    http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/person?personId=1413397560&targetid=profile

    http://www.conservationcouncil.ca/about-us/eco-heroes/

    http://brunswickpipeline.com/en/home/community/saintjohncommunityliaisoncommittee/2008/agendawednesdayfebruary272008.aspx

    http://www.canaportlng.com/pdfs/ccelc_minutes_june92008.pdf

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 04:24:21 -0300
    Subject: Imagine if David Eby beats Christy Clark this time around I
    suspect he will become BC's next Attorney General then Cummins decides
    to finally to act ethically and embarasses the hell out the NDP, the
    Liberals, Harper, and you EH Mr Plant?
    To: "gplant@heenan.ca"<gplant@heenan.ca>, "dave.eby@gmail.com"
    < dave.eby@gmail.com>, "elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca"
    < elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca>, "jchretien@heenan.ca"
    < jchretien@heenan.ca>, "rheenan@heenan.ca"<rheenan@heenan.ca>,
    "bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com"<bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com>,
    "broy@ogilvyrenault.com"<broy@ogilvyrenault.com>,
    "media@cumminsforbc.ca"<media@cumminsforbc.ca>, "weststar@telus.net"
    < weststar@telus.net>, "t.wilson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"
    < t.wilson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "premier@gov.bc.ca"<premier@gov.bc.ca>,
    "francoise.raunet@greenparty.bc.ca"
    < francoise.raunet@greenparty.bc.ca>, duane <duane@nickull.net>,
    "premier@gov.ab.ca"<premier@gov.ab.ca>
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
    "derek.burney@nortonrose.com"<derek.burney@nortonrose.com>,
    "vhuntington@dccnet.com"<vhuntington@dccnet.com>, RBauer
    < RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, rtalach@beckettinjurylawyers.com,
    mbastarache@heenan.ca, ddexter <ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>, premier
    < premier@gnb.ca>

    Hey Mr Plant

    Please notice that I added two more pdf files to this email  that all our
    surving past and present Prime Ministers and Governor Generals are
    well aware of but you may not have seen them.

    Remember our conversation and the four emails I sent you one month before
    the writ was dropped? It was at about the same time a couple of my enemies
    in BC Splitting the Sky and Dougy Baby Christie dropped dead. They were
    followed up not long afterwards by none other than Rotten Ralphy Klein?
    Does it make me an evil person to be happy that I out lived some of my foes?
    You should not deny that Rotten Ralphy's Attorney General got the same
    letter and the same a pile of documents and a CD that all the Canadian
    Attorney General's received except the Quebecers who turned the Registered
    US Mail back 10 times but it was NEVER returned to the USA. Methinks the
    RCMP or their pals in CSIS stole my mail just like they have done before and
    since. Its rough being a whistleblower. N'esy Pas Mr. Chretien and Mr.
    Cutler?

    http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/david-amos-vs-bcs-liberal-premier.html

    http://www.integritybc.ca/?page_id=276

    http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2013/04/23/the-candidate-chronicles-a-friendly-election/

    Now to be fair here is one all the lawyers working for the Yankees Al Gore,
    Prez Obama and George Soros should review before Birgitta Jonsdotter and her
    Wikileaks buddies finally read it..

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/5051668/Al-Gore-and-the-boys

    Yea I know I am pipe dreaming. I doubt things will change in my lifetime but
    what is life with fine dreams? History has proven the Sheeple always get the
    governments they deserve when apathy rules the day. However once they start
    losing their shirts and have no cake to eat there is always hell to pay and
    do roll on occasion. Anyone paying attention can see that the stock
    market is at an artificial high created by the greedy Banksters NOT the
    economy. Obviously it has nowhere to go but down. Look out when it does.
    Even old folks who support Harper and Cummins get pissed when they lose
    another big chunk of their precious pensions. But to hell with us old folks
    our days
    taking advantage of this wonderful old old are winding down anyway. What is
    far worse to me is that methinks the "Powers that Be" may let loose the Dogs
    of War once again at about the same time the economy crashes. I am not the
    only soul predicting this but I have been rather outspoken about this since
    2002 when the greedy Yankees attacked my little Clan. Te public record
    of my affairs speaks for itself. If my reasoning is correct all of our
    children's future will become truly dire indeed. Shame on all you greedy
    smiling
    bastards if what I believe comes true. Trust that I will hate being correct
    but to deny the obvious would make me as foolish as you people.

    Pipedream or not the rest of this email is a nightmare for any unethical
    lawyer or cop to read or ignore.

    Unlike a lawyer or a poltiician I have always trusted my conscience, my
    logic and my strange gut feelings.just like the honest cops in the movies
    do.
    Thus far the senses I was born with have not failed me. So I must confess
    the
    I have not lost my faith in my fellow common man yet even though I hold much
    contempt towarss many low men in high places. My doubts are justifiable but
    I
    still have hope especially after watching the black guy named Charles talk
    about
    taking a break from munching on his MacDonald's and playing  his part help
    to
    save three long lost girls in the USA  It is guys like him that assure me
    that we
    common folk are not all evil people like the wealthy ones amongst us usually
    are.
    Charles should run for Congress I suspect he would win by a landslide if a
    self
    serving Independent can beat BC's Attorney General in the last election/ If
    the
    sneaky lawyer David Eby beats Christy Clark in her own riding it will only
    serve to further prove my point. Need I say I love how the political parties
    in BC are creating their own Independent opponents? Too too funny. Seems
    that they are bringing about "change" byway of their malicious incompetence.

    History as I said earlier has proven the worm always turns on the smiling
    bastards. With any luck at all it may happen soon in BC. I know I have done
    my part to try to bring about change in BC since 2004.  I still have so many
    irons in the fire in so many places to singe some fancy political arses with
    that it is quite simply unbelievable. For instance with regards to this
    email pipelines in your neck of the woods I know everyone of you checked out
    the letters hereto attached but did nothing . Curipusity is a hell of a
    thing but you are all afraid of Harper Correct? I doubt many of you greedy
    people know about Lenny Hoyt, Emera and Enbridge or Mr. Jones, his Director
    Derek Burney within TransCanada versus Mean Old Me. Trust
    that it would take me only minutes to explain it to anyone with two clues
    between their ears. In fact I have done so to quite few and still they say
    and do nothing. Hell the dumb Green Meanies in Canada have understood me
    since 2004 and still don't care about the shit that went down between Danny
    Boy Williams and I even after he sues some of them. Go figure?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2013/05/07/nb-enbridge-appeal-rates-leonard.html

    http://www.transcanada.com/612.html

    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/193845.pdf

    Methinks folks should stop listening to greedy lawyers EH? What say you Mr.
    Plant? If you recall our conversation on March 15th you demanded I wrap
    things up in a couple of minutes and I promptly did so within 30 seconds or
    so then I called your friend Elisabeth Graff and her bosses as well. After
    all your Law Firm has had Hard Copy of my material for nearly a year before
    you quit politicking as an Attorney General Then Wall Eyed Wally Opal gladly
    took your job and in turn got his arse kicked out of office by an incredibly
    stupid Independent whom I talked to as well CORRECT Ms Huntington a former
    RCMP
    Security person and Acting-Chief of Staff to the Solicitor General of
    Canada?
    What I did not bother telling you Mr. Plant was the the reason I called on
    lots
    of people the Ides of March. Scroll down and you will see I caught Harper's
    minions checking my work that day. Plus I know for a fact the CSE and the
    RCMP listen to all my calls so why not give them an earful then prove to
    many
    others I am paying attention too?

    Believe it or not not everybody is a afraid of Mr. Harper and many are
    tired of his antics. I heard through the grapevine that I have
    gotten some fans amongst the Feds and that maybe someone may use my
    documents to blow the whistle. Heres hoping that is true. The sooner I get
    my old Harley back and return to being "Just Dave" I am sure many
    politicians
    and lawyers will breath a sigh of relief. Methinks the CROWN and I should
    write an MOU ASAP and then assist me in asking the the Yankees to settle
    with as well. What say Mr. Plant? Do you know an old liberal lawyer in YOUR
    law firm capable of writing a letter to the Prime Minister and making a deal
    with fellow devil on behalf of a Canadian citizen that they purportedly
    serve? I do they got this email too and my letter hereto attached. Four of
    the
    documents are from the Canadian government one is from a very big cheese
    and only one is mine Correct?

    If no no lawyer takes my side rest assured the Green Meanies South of the
    49th heavily financed by George Soros/Swartz are about to be enlightened
    much to the chagrin of Harper and Prez Obama and of course my wife's evil
    Catholic cousins and their old Yankee buddy John Kerry the current Secretary
    of the Sad State of Affairs in the US of A.

    http://www.theinquiry.ca/wordpress/settlements/bastarache-conciliation-deals/moncton-dioceses-money-woes-will-worsen-lawyer-says/

    http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf

     Such is the way of the world and the life and times of a fierce but ethical
    political animal. As long as I maintain my Integrity I and tell the truth
    all day long
    to anyone I choose to then sit back and watch the "Powers That Be" squirm.
    Sooner or later somebody will grow some balls and simply say my name in a
    Parliament or a Congress or in the corporate media. The love of money
    dictates it.
    Of that I have no doubt.

    Veritas Vincit
    David Raymond Amos
    902 800 0369



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: <kristyf@bcconservative2013.ca>; <media@cumminsforbc.ca>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:24 PM
    Subject: Fwd: RE Potash Corp, The NEB, Nexen, Pipelines and political spats


    Media contact:
    Andrea Smith
    604.897.8478
    media@cumminsforbc.ca

    http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/david-amos-vs-bcs-liberal-premier.html

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/09/16/bc-cummins-attack-ads.html

    http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1107310278688-34/Campaign+Briefing+Notes-+Volume+1+Issue+2.pdf

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: "Dix.MLA, Adrian"<Adrian.Dix.MLA@leg.bc.ca>
    Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:03:21 +0000
    Subject: Thank you for your email
    To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

    Thank you for your email.  This response is to assure you that your
    message has been received.

    All of my e-mail messages are reviewed on a regular basis. However,
    due to the high volume of e-mails received, I may not be able to
    respond personally to each one.  To help me serve you better, please
    ensure that your e-mail includes your full name, phone number and
    street address with your postal code.

    To ensure your email is sent to the most appropriate office, a
    database of all MLAs, searchable by postal code, is available at the
    BC Legislature website:  http://www.leg.bc.ca/mla/3-1-1.htm

    Thank you again for taking the time to share your ideas, concerns, and
    insight with me. If you require an immediate response or your email is
    urgent, please call our office directly at 604-660-0314

    Adrian Dix

    MLA, Vancouver-Kingsway

    Leader, New Democrat Official Opposition

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: "elisabeth.graff"<elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca>; "weststar"
    < weststar@telus.net>; "premier"<premier@gov.bc.ca>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; "t.wilson"
    < t.wilson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; "radical"<radical@radicalpress.com>
    Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 9:35 PM
    Subject: Fwd: RE The Media the VERY Corrupt Justice Depts in the USA and
    Canada, the EX PCO Prez Peter Penashue, greedy little politicians lawyers
    Indians and Metis such as John Boncore, Pam Palmater, Todd Russell and
    Claude Aubin versus Mean old me


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:03:04 -0300
    Subject: Fwd: RE The Media the VERY Corrupt Justice Depts in the USA
    and Canada, the EX PCO Prez Peter Penashue, greedy little politicians
    lawyers Indians and Metis such as John Boncore, Pam Palmater, Todd
    Russell and Claude Aubin versus Mean old me
    To: premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, gplant <gplant@heenan.ca>,
    lmcgrady@mbwlaw.ca
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "adrian.dix.mla"
    < adrian.dix.mla@leg.bc.ca>

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:08:49 -0300
    Subject: RE The Media the VERY Corrupt Justice Depts in the USA and
    Canada, the EX PCO Prez Peter Penashue, greedy little politicians
    lawyers Indians and Metis such as John Boncore, Pam Palmater, Todd
    Russell and Claude Aubin versus Mean old me
    To: yvonnejones@gov.nl.ca, "MulcaT@parl.gc.ca"<MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>,
    "aubinc@cactuscom.com"<aubinc@cactuscom.com>,
    "justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca"<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>,
    "policy.karenforcanada@gmail.com"<policy.karenforcanada@gmail.com>,
    "media.karenforcanada@gmail.com"<media.karenforcanada@gmail.com>,
    "Marjory.LeBreton@pco-bcp.gc.ca"<Marjory.LeBreton@pco-bcp.gc.ca>,
    brycefequet@metisnationofcanada.com
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, trussell
    < trussell@nunatukavut.ca>, ppalmater <ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca>,
    Darcey@metisonline.ca, merv <merv@northwebpress.com>, radical
    < radical@radicalpress.com>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>,
    "Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, jacques boucher
    < jacques.boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, andre
    < andre@jafaust.com>

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2013/03/15/nl-peter-penashue-political-reaction-315.html

    http://nlliberals.ca/caucus/cartwright-lanse-au-clair-yvonne-jones-mha/

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: "Claude Aubin"<aubinc@cactuscom.com>; "pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>;
    "marc.garneau.a1"<marc.garneau.a1@parl.gc.ca>; "justin.trudeau.a1"
    < justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>; "MulcaT"<MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>;
    < presse@philippecouillard.com>; <montreal@philippecouillard.com>;
    < meerang.rb@gmail.com>; <media@georgetakach.ca>; <info@georgetakach.ca>;
    < info@martincauchon.ca>; <media@martincauchon.ca>;
    < policy.karenforcanada@gmail.com>; <media.karenforcanada@gmail.com>;
    < media@davidbertschi.ca>; <info@pierremoreau.ca>
    Cc: <peter.penashue@parl.gc.ca>; <Darcey@metisonline.ca>; <jriche@innu.ca>;
    < trussell@nunatukavut.ca>; <minister@aadnc-aandc.gc.ca>;
    < ministre@ec.gc.ca>; <Marjory.LeBreton@pco-bcp.gc.ca>;
    < DuaneM@metisnation.ca>; <info@pco-bcp.gc.ca>;
    < peter.penashue@pco-bcp.gc.ca>; <info@metisnation.ca>;
    < brycefequet@metisnationofcanada.com>; <info@claudeaubinmetis.com>; "David
    Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; "ppalmater"
    < ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca>; <news@northwebpress.com>;
    < appa@sen.parl.gc.ca>; <bcm@international.gc.ca>; "RBauer"
    < RBauer@perkinscoie.com>; "bginsberg"<bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:57 PM
    Subject: Yo Harper Just exactly how dumb is your French buddy Claude
    Aubin????


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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: "elisabeth.graff"<elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca>; "weststar"
    < weststar@telus.net>; "premier"<premier@gov.bc.ca>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; "david.akin"
    < david.akin@sunmedia.ca>
    Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 9:33 PM
    Subject: Fwd: DOD Auditor General and alan.white@cbc.ca


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos
    Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:29:35 -0700 (PDT)
    Subject: DOD Auditor General and   alan.white@cbc.ca
    To: "alan.white@cbc.ca"<alan.white@cbc.ca>, oldmaison
    < oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>

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    Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:08:42 -0800 (PST)
    From: David Amos <motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com>
    Subject: So do ya think Harper ordered CBC to ignore me or Heenan? (: Or
    could it be Dick Cheney :)
    To: Ombudsman@cbc.ca, ombudsman@radio-canada.ca,
    newsroom@allheadlinenews.com, jromanelli@hfxnews.ca, cfleming@hfxnews.ca,
    pramsay@amherstdaily.com, Dion.S@parl.gc.ca, Martin.Paul@parl.gc.ca,
    Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca, Volpe.J@parl.gc.ca, Brison.S@parl.gc.ca,
    Dryden.K@parl.gc.ca, egarris2@antiwar.com, btaylor@nbnet.nb.ca,
    Duane.Rousselle@unb.ca, oldmaison.wcie@gmail.com,
    martine.turcotte@bell.ca, premier@gov.ns.ca, McCallum.J@parl.gc.ca
    CC: tjconnel@gannett.com, jchretien@heenan.ca, rheenan@heenan.ca,
    bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com, broy@ogilvyrenault.com,
    kmearn@mpdmilton.org, governorlynch@nh.gov, mayor@ci.boston.ma.us,
    kinsella@stu.ca, mcomeau@stu.ca, ruby@ruby-edwardh.com,
    Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca, McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca, Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca,
    atlantic@ctv.ca, smurphy@ctv.ca, Eyking.M@parl.gc.ca, Keddy.G@parl.gc.ca,
    Regan.G@parl.gc.ca, Savage.M@parl.gc.ca, Thibault.R@parl.gc.ca,
    news-tips@nytimes.com, foreign@nytimes.com, dinoratt@telus.net,
    editor@thetyee.ca

    It has been a couple of days since the one honest lady and from CBC emailed
    me and
    nobody calls while the Feds kill my email account?

    Don't that just piss me off  when I see you checking my work to beat the the
    band?

    What are you doing in Upper Canada?

    Are ya waiting for me to blog your nonsense or just sue ya?

    David Raymond Amos <davidramos@xplornet.com> wrote:

    From: "David Raymond Amos"<davidramos@xplornet.com>
    To: <nouvelle@acadienouvelle.com>, <newsroom@nbpub.com>,
    < carl.davies@gnb.ca>,
    < janet.trail@gnb.ca>, <Akoschany@ctv.ca>, <jtravers@thestar.ca>,
    < warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, <cumby.meghan@dailygleaner.com>,
    < Stephane.vaillancourt@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
    "Spinks Spinks"<spinks08@hotmail.com>, <seanoshaughnessy@rogers.com>,
    < jonesr@cbc.ca>, <mleger@stu.ca>, <jwalker@stu.ca>, <plee@stu.ca>,
    < dwatch@web.net>, <Duane.Rousselle@unb.ca>, <oldmaison.wcie@gmail.com>,
    < btaylor@nbnet.nb.ca>, <trenchcoatblog@yahoo.ca>, <Jack.Keir2@gnb.ca>,
    < advocacycollective@yahoo.com>, <MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca>,
    < collins.moncton-east@hotmail.com>, <wally.stiles@gnb.ca>,
    < bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, <kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca>, <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>,
    < Grant.GARNEAU@gnb.ca>, <Bernard.Richard@gnb.ca>,
    < abel.leblanc@gnb.ca>, <eugene.mcginley2@gnb.ca>, <Scott.A@parl.gc.ca>,
    < John.Foran@gnb.ca>, <premier@gnb.ca>, <Hermenegilde.Chiasson@gnb.ca>,
    < dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, <Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
    < chris.goodwin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, <info@cisnb-srcnb.ca>,
    < bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
    CC: <bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, <Oda.B@parl.gc.ca>,
    < paul.dube@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Henry McCandless"<hemccand@shaw.ca>,
    < dwatch@web.net>, <president@utoronto.ca>, <rbrant@mccarthy.ca>,
    < bsullivan@wc.com>, <jimwilson@telus.net>, <info@lymedisease.org>,
    < lbj1@pacbell.net>, <ottawa@chuckstrahl.com>, <riding@chuckstrahl.com>,
    < chris.cunningham@utoronto>, <bpel@mccarthy.ca>, <Catboat15@aol.com>,
    < motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com>, <Dykstra.R@parl.gc.ca>,
    < solberg.m@parl.gc.ca>, <thompson.g@parl.gc.ca>, <toews.v@parl.gc.ca>,
    < Daniel.Conley@state.ma.us>, <ruby@ruby-edwardh.com>,
    < fbinhct@leo.gov>, <patrick.fitzgerald@usdoj.gov>,
    < Russell_Feingold@feingold.senate.gov>,
    < stephen.cutler@wilmerhale.com>, <olived@sen.parl.gc.ca>,
    < bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com>, <broy@ogilvyrenault.com>,
    < cumby.meghan@dailygleaner.com>, <stronach.b@parl.gc.ca>,
    < day.s@parl.gc.ca>, <duffy@ctv.ca>,
    < tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com>, <mikemurphymla@hotmail.com>,
    < dykstrafarms@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Fw: Gotcha now watch me embarass the Crown Corp known as CBC
    Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:22:27 -0400

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: David Raymond Amos
    To: office@AJAs.ca
    Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:38 AM
    Subject: Fw: Gotcha now watch me embarass the Crown Corp known as CBC



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ombudsman de Radio-Canada"<ombudsman@radio-canada.ca>
    To: "David Raymond Amos"<davidramos@xplornet.com>
    Cc: "CBC Ombudsman"<Ombudsman@cbc.ca>
    Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:00 PM
    Subject: {Spam?} Rép. : Fw: Gotcha now watch me embarass the Crown Corp
    known as CBC


    Dear Sir:

     I write to acknowledge receipt of your e-mail and your voice mail, which I
    have shared with the office of the Ombudsman of the English network. It will
    follow up with your request.
    For more information, you can consult CBC Ombudsman's web site:
    http://www.cbc.ca/ombudsman/

    Best regards,

    Laure Simonet
    Assistant of the Ombudsman, French Services
    Société Radio-Canada

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:47:29 -0400
    Subject: RE Potash Corp, The NEB, Nexen, Pipelines and political spats
    To: andrew.weaver@greenparty.bc.ca, leader@greenparty.bc.ca,
    weaver@ocean.seos.uvic.ca, ida.chong.mla@leg.bc.ca,
    michael.byers@ubc.ca, colivier@theprovince.com, leader
    < leader@greenparty.ca>, leader <leader@actionparty.ca>
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, editor@desmogblog.com,
    judy@yesbc.ca, mhager@postmedia.com

    http://www.theprovince.com/news/Green+Party+candidate+pressured+election/7691565/story.html#axzz2Eyjd6DI9

    http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Star+Green+party+candidate+Andrew+Weaver+says+Democrat+asked/7691247/story.html

    http://www.theprovince.com/news/Green+Party+candidate+pressured+election/7691565/story.html#axzz2Eyjd6DI9

    http://www.desmogblog.com/weaver-sues-tim-ball-libel

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: <josh@bccla.org>; <Carmen@bccla.org>; <sheila.leggett@neb-one.gc.ca>;
    < gaetan.caron@neb-one.gc.ca>; <ted@tedhsu.ca>; <Ted.Hsu@parl.gc.ca>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; <gplant@heenan.ca>;
    < elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca>; "joe.oliver.c1"<joe.oliver.c1@parl.gc.ca>
    Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:56 PM
    Subject: Perhap somebody should ask Joe Oliver some serious questions ASAP
    EH Ted Hsu?


    http://bccla.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/20130114-NEB-Letter.pdf

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    To: <gplant@heenan.ca>; <james@jameskeller.ca>; <dbennett@cp.org>
    Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>;
    < sheila.leggett@neb-one.gc.ca>; <elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca>
    Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 4:35 PM
    Subject: The lawyer Leggett and her legal cohorts are too too funny
    sometimes EH Mr Plant?


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/09/06/bc-geoff-plant-enbridge-hearings.html?cmp=rss

    http://www.heenanblaikie.com/en/ourTeam/bio?id=5119

    Geoff Plant, Q.C.bPartner
    Vancouver 604 891.1186
    Victoria 250 381.9321
    gplant@heenan.ca


    http://www.canadianlawlist.com/listingdetail/contact/elisabeth-graff-654409/

    Elisabeth Graff
    Solicitor
    Called to the bar: 2008 (BC)
    Justice (BC), Min. of
    Abor. Law - Environ., Resource & Abor. Law Group
    PO Box 9220, Stn. Prov. Govt
    Victoria, British Columbia V8W 9J1
    Phone: 250-356-1155 Ext:
    Fax: 250-356-8939
    Email: elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca

    http://www.ipe.ualberta.ca/en/EventsandSeminars/ChinaandIndiaGlobalPowerShiftO/SpeakerProfiles/JohnCarruthers.aspx

    http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Former+Attorney+General+Geoff+Plant+represent+Northern+Gateway+hearings/7199978/story.html

    http://www.thecanadianpress.com/english/marketing/contacts/CPContactsEnglish.pdf

    http://www.jameskeller.ca/contact/

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/bc-lawyer-grills-northern-gateway-president-on-enbridges-liability/article4526907/

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:07:18 -0300
    Subject: BTW Heather Remember when Harper stopped the BHP Potash deal?
    To: martinhea39@gmail.com
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:44:45 -0300
    Subject: I just called from 902 800 0369 Perhaps the Qatari Embassy
    should study the attachments closely EH Mr Alward?
    To: musoviczl@repsol.com, pribbeck@repsol.com, vcmorrissettem@repsol.com
    Cc: ottawa@mofa.gov.qa, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, David Amos
    < david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
    leader <leader@greenparty.ca>

    Qatari Embassy in Ottawa, Canada
    800-150 Metcalfe Street
    Ottawa Ontario K2P 1P1
    Telephone (+1) 613 241 4917
     E-mail ottawa@mofa.gov.qa
    http://www.repsolenergy.com/rena_team/rena_team.html

    http://www.repsolenergy.com/press_room/press_room.html

    http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/kuwait-koweit/bilateral_relations_bilaterales/fs-qatar-fd.aspx?lang=eng&view=d

    http://www.nccar.ca/statements/news-releases/establishment-of-the-embassy-of-qatar-in-canadaune-ambassade-du-qatar-a-ottawa/

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 01:07:11 -0400
    Subject: YO Nathan Cullen WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REPORTING,
    JOURNALISM AND PROPAGANDA???
    To: cullen1 <cullen1@parl.gc.ca>, gsmith@classicrockcfnr.ca,
    dquan@postmedia.com, merv@northwebpress.com, charlie@straight.com, pm
    < pm@pm.gc.ca>, president@ubcic.bc.ca,
    palmater@indigenousnationhood.com, ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca,
    radical <radical@radicalpress.com>, hjk <hjk@quesnelbc.com>,
    "macpherson.don"<macpherson.don@dailygleaner.com>,
    "mclaughlin.heather"<mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>, acampbell
    < acampbell@ctv.ca>, "terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, Jessica Hume
    < jessica.hume@sunmedia.ca>
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, vivian.krause@mac.com,
    Joe.oliver.c1@parl.gc.ca, ross.mcmillan@tidescanada.org

    I believe that only propaganda exists these days. The other two terms
    are merely myths that bullshitters use to jusify greedy wordsmiths who
    try to wax poetic for whomever will pay them the most. If all else
    fails the corporations hire the cheapest help they can get for local
    events and just cut and paste and print and pay some other dude for
    the fancy words to elp sell their newsrag. Original thought and common
    sense evaporated with veritical intigration or whatever the evil
    corporate bastards wish to call these days.

    http://www.ubcic.bc.ca/about/executive.htm#axzz2Gn4tlS9t

    Perhaps some clever Indian in BC will ask me why I ran against Andy
    Scott when he was the Minister of Indian Affairs EH John Duncan? I see
    folks in your neck of the woods checking my work alot lately. No doubt
    some of it is because of the upcoming election and the doings between
    me and the Wally Opal and the RCMP back in 2005. However there is the
    doings between the NEB and I in 2006 but that bullshit only involves
    mere matters of money and the environment. YOU cannot deny that the
    Minister of Indian Affairs has had Hard Copy of my concerns since 2004
    and THAT involves the Captial Crime known and MURDER. YOUR head office
    is in Amherst Nova Scotia which well within MY stomping gounds. Thus
    that is where I will serve you the summons in order to bring the RCMP
    and your lawyers to Federal Court CORRECT Minister Duncan? Perhaps you
    should call the RCMP in Amherst Nova Scotia and ask them about the
    documents and CD I served on them with a witness who has my Durable
    Power of Attorney in August of 2012 in order to bring everything up to
    date.

    FYI its mostly the same materail that Wally Opal and the lawyer
    Shirley Heafey as the Commissioer of Public Complaints Against the
    RCMP received byway of registered US Mail (signature required) in 2005

    http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/david-amos-vs-bcs-liberal-premier.html

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/7625653/Indian-Affairs

    http://www.straight.com/news/grand-chief-stewart-phillip-stephen-harper-attacked-first-nations-rights-2012

    http://www.terracedaily.ca/show10549a0x300y1z/THE_DIFFERENCE_BETWEEN_REPORTING_JOURNALISM_AND_PROPAGANDA_

    http://www.classicrockcfnr.ca/index.php/on-air/nationview-journeys-archives/

    Air Date: December 14, 2012
    The Union of BC Indian Chiefs has announced they are ready and willing
    to take legal action against the Federal Government over concerns of
    the potential Canada-China Foreign Investment Promotion & Protection
    Agreement (FIPPA). President of the UBCIC Grand Chief Stewart Phillip
    explains what a potential international free-trade agreement would
    mean for the environment and country. Meanwhile Reporter Jon Brown
    speaks with BC Conservative Leader John Cummins who's making a
    northern tour.

    Interview Segment: Grand Chief Stewart Phillip & Conservative Leader
    John Cummins

    http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/ccc/srch/nvgt.do?lang=eng&prtl=1&sbPrtl=&estblmntNo=123456126441&profile=cmpltPrfl&profileId=501&app=sold

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    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:00:26 -0400
    Subject: RE Potash Corp, The NEB, Nexen, Pipelines and MP Nathan Cullen
    To: vivian.krause@mac.com, joel@renewalpartners.com, "ross.mcmillan"
    < ross.mcmillan@tidescanada.org>, charlie@straight.com,
    "gregor.robertson"<gregor.robertson@vancouver.ca>,
    info@forestethics.org, Joe.oliver.c1@parl.gc.ca,
    harvey@harveylocke.com, donn.lovett@gmail.com,
    enquiries@josipapetrunic.ca
    Cc: cullen1@parl.gc.ca, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, oig
    < oig@sec.gov>, oig <oig@ftc.gov>, todd@forestethics.org

    http://forestethics.org/todd-paglia-executive-director-responds-lastest-news-canada

    Cullen to question Enbridge, government at JRP in February
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    DECEMBER 12, 2012

    Prince Rupert - MP Nathan Cullen will next appear before the National
    Energy Board's Enbridge Joint Review Panel (JRP) in February.

    Cullen will question witnesses from Enbridge on emergency preparedness
    and response mechanisms that would be established to deal with oil
    spills.

    Later in the spring, Cullen will also cross-examine Department of
    Fisheries and Oceans officials about federal assessments of the
    project's environmental impacts.

    JRP hearings continue in Prince Rupert this week and are set to resume
    there on February 4.  The panel will sit for two-week rotations until
    early spring and must issue its recommendation by the end of 2013.


    - 30 -

    Contact: Shelley Browne, cullen1@parl.gc.ca 250-877-4140


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:31:34 -0300
    Subject: RE The NEB, Nexen, Pipelines, the by elections of the left
    versus Harper & cohorts Anyone remember me?
    To: kcryderman@calgaryherald.com, tips@660news.com,
    david.cournoyer@gmail.com, Lee.Richardson@gov.ab.ca,
    jason.kenney.c1@parl.gc.ca, Elizabeth.May.C1@parl.gc.ca,
    Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, Joe.oliver.c1@parl.gc.ca, leader
    < leader@actionparty.ca>, donn@petroxcapital.ca,
    albertadiary@gmail.com, support@erinotoole.ca, editor@oakbaynews.com,
    info@joancrockatt.ca
    Cc: vin@vincentstpierre.com, rahim@tedxcalgary.ca,
    harvey@harveylocke.com, donn.lovett@gmail.com,
    datkins@oceancapitalpartners.com, galloway@uvic.ca,
    paulsummerville@shaw.ca, mrankin@murrayrankin.ca,
    murray@murrayrankinndp.ca, elizabeth@elizabethcull.ca,
    charleyberesford@gmail.com, loriacreative@yahoo.com,
    info@innermusica.com, rscollis@gmail.com

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By-elections_to_the_41st_Canadian_Parliament#cite_note-Kady-20

    http://victoriavision.blogspot.ca/

    http://alberta.ca/albertafiles/includes/directorysearch/goaBrowse.cfm?txtSearch=Executive%20Branch&Ministry=EXC&LevelID=17734&userid=106619

    http://www.calgaryliberal.com/2012/09/14/liberal-nomination-12-the-race-for-calgary-centre/

    http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/politics/Liberals+choose+candidate+Calgary+Centre/7277510/story.html

    http://beaconnews.ca/calgary/2012/09/strikebreaker-condemns-joan-crockatt-for-role-in-calgary-herald-strike/

    http://daveberta.ca/2012/08/calgary-centre-nomination-update/


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:31:34 -0300
    Subject: RE The NEB, Nexen, Pipelines, the by elections of the left
    versus Harper & cohorts Anyone remember me?
    To: kcryderman@calgaryherald.com, tips@660news.com,
    david.cournoyer@gmail.com, Lee.Richardson@gov.ab.ca,
    jason.kenney.c1@parl.gc.ca, Elizabeth.May.C1@parl.gc.ca,
    Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, Joe.oliver.c1@parl.gc.ca, leader
    < leader@actionparty.ca>, donn@petroxcapital.ca,
    albertadiary@gmail.com, support@erinotoole.ca, editor@oakbaynews.com,
    info@joancrockatt.ca
    Cc: vin@vincentstpierre.com, rahim@tedxcalgary.ca,
    harvey@harveylocke.com, donn.lovett@gmail.com,
    datkins@oceancapitalpartners.com, galloway@uvic.ca,
    paulsummerville@shaw.ca, mrankin@murrayrankin.ca,
    murray@murrayrankinndp.ca, elizabeth@elizabethcull.ca,
    charleyberesford@gmail.com, loriacreative@yahoo.com,
    info@innermusica.com, rscollis@gmail.com

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By-elections_to_the_41st_Canadian_Parliament#cite_note-Kady-20

    http://victoriavision.blogspot.ca/

    http://alberta.ca/albertafiles/includes/directorysearch/goaBrowse.cfm?txtSearch=Executive%20Branch&Ministry=EXC&LevelID=17734&userid=106619

    http://www.calgaryliberal.com/2012/09/14/liberal-nomination-12-the-race-for-calgary-centre/

    http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/politics/Liberals+choose+candidate+Calgary+Centre/7277510/story.html

    http://beaconnews.ca/calgary/2012/09/strikebreaker-condemns-joan-crockatt-for-role-in-calgary-herald-strike/

    http://daveberta.ca/2012/08/calgary-centre-nomination-update/

    From: Josipa Petrunic <enquiries@josipapetrunic.ca>
    Subject: Follow up
    To: "David Amos"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
    Received: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 8:45 PM

    Dear David,

    Apologies for the delay in my response. This week was jammed with
    board meetings for our riding and a massive volunteer appreciation BBQ
    that we held yesterday. I'm just catching up on messages now.

    Apropos the information you sent to me, I found it very interesting.
    In fact, here in Calgary East, I'm planning a series of
    workshops/public lectures that look at "Corruption in Canada". My
    policy team and I are meeting this week to discuss the items you sent
    to me and your case in particular to see what we can do in terms of,
    at least, bringing some public awareness to this case and other cases
    of corruption and questionable practices in Canadian governance and
    government relations with businesses.

    Do make sure to send us a follow up on what you decide to do, apropos
    your proposed law suit. I will share the information with my team.

    As my own follow up question, though, why have you sent me this
    material as opposed to approaching your local MP and/or Liberal
    candidate? Surely others would be interested too.

    I know Ted. He's a great person and he'll be a wonderful MP. Do let me
    know what transpires on that front.

    Best of luck in your efforts. We'll chat soon,

    Josipa
    --
    Josipa Petrunic
    Liberal Party Candidate
    Federal constituency of Calgary East
    www.josipapetrunic.ca
    www.facebook.com/votejosipa
    Phone: 403-719-6253

    From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Josipa I will try calling you again (902 800 0369) BTW I am
    not a local nor am I a liberal
    To: enquiries@josipapetrunic.ca
    Cc: ted@tedhsu.ca, David Amos
    Received: Monday, May 23, 2011, 10:38 PM

    Say hey to Ted Hsu

    I explained myself to your sister Ana ( who was quite nice) She
    obviously told you I had called after you responded to my first emaiI.
    She told me you were heading out to debate that night so I sent you
    the email with the attachemnt about BHP and Potash Corp so you could
    embarass some Conservatives as to why Harper stopped the hostile
    takeover last year but clearly you did not read it in time for the
    election but there is still a bit of time to stir the pot before the
    Speech from the Throne in June

    Anyway to answer your question I am the whistleblower that inspired
    this hearing in Washington DC before I came home and ran for public
    office 4 times in Canada between 2004 and 2006 then got stuck here
    without my wife and kids

    http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=102e41a1-f540-4ce5-a701-b6d09b7606b1

    http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2

    The first email I sent you had this pdf file attached and Ted got it too.

    www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.pdf

    Veritas Vincit
    David Raymond Amos

    P.S. The rest of this email and its attachment contains just one of
    the reasons Stockwell Day quit.

    From: Josipa Petrunic <enquiries@josipapetrunic.ca>
    Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:26:34 -0400
    Subject: Reading your message
    To: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
    Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

    Hi David -

    I just heard your message (sort of) on the telephone.
    Unfortunately the line is garbled and all I could hear was your name and
    a mention of a Senate website site. The rest is mostly garbled for some
    reason and I can't make out your phone number or the website you were
    trying to direct me towards. Were you on a cell phone, by chance? It
    sounds like digital interference on the phone.

    That said, I have indeed scanned through the emails you sent to me,
    but I have a number of questions, as the order of the emails is all
    over the place and it's
    hard for me to track what happened when and who you were responding to
    at certain times.

    I thought that it might be easier for you to come to
    one of our meetings (i.e. our board meeting on June 1st). We always
    leave a slot of time for people from the community, like yourself, to
    talk about issues thought to be important and which we, as Liberals, can
    talk about.

    Indeed, as I'm developing a lecture series for Calgary
    East right now, it might be worthwhile having you succinctly explain the
    situation and your role in whistleblowing, so that I can grasp the
    issues at hand.

    In the meantime, could you email me your number and a
    link to the website you mentioned. I can start by looking at the site.

    Cheers, Josipa
    ---
    Josipa Petrunic
    Liberal Party Candidate
    Federal
    constituency of Calgary East
    www.josipapetrunic.ca [1]
    www.facebook.com/votejosipa [2]
    Phone: 403-719-6253


    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Subject: Fwd: Ted perhaps you should mention this email to the lawyers
    Sean Casey, Dominic Leblanc, Bob Rae and Ralph Goodale ASAP
    To: ted@tedhsu.ca
    Cc: maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca
    Received: Friday, May 20, 2011, 2:33 PM

    When you responded once again to the earlier email I figured it was
    not you who blocked the email I was calling about. Ask yourself who
    blocked this email to you and why. BTW after I called you and left a
    message about this I did as I promised and called Bob Rae's office as
    well. He did ot call me back but i saw his help checking my work on
    the web while we talked.

    Best Regards
    Dave

    --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Ted Hsu <ted@tedhsu.ca> wrote:


    From: Ted Hsu <ted@tedhsu.ca>
    Subject: Re: Ted I figured out it was you who called me back (613 544 8450)
    To: "David Amos"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
    Received: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 8:18 PM


    Hello David,


    I'm going to go over the contents of your email.


    Regards,


    Ted Hsu


    On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:30 PM, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
    wrote:

    Congrats on two fronts.

    One for getting elected

    Two and more importantly to me is the fact that you are the only
    elected politician to returm a call to me this year. No joke.

    That fact alone proves to me that you are the only person who should
    be the liberal leader and our next Prime Minister No joking again.

    because you acted ethiclly with me I will keep this email in
    confidence until we get a chance to talk.

    Best Regards
    Dave

    Please study the text of the email when you get the time but checkout
    the pdf files attached ASAP before the 41st Parliament sits would be
    wise

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:34:44 -0300
    Subject: never-mind-northern-gateway-keystone-xl
    To: albertadiary <albertadiary@gmail.com>
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

    http://albertadiary.ca/2012/01/never-mind-northern-gateway-keystone-xl_17.html

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:35:46 -0300
    Subject: The lawyer Leggett and her legal cohorts are too too funny
    sometimes EH Mr Plant?
    To: gplant@heenan.ca, james@jameskeller.ca, dbennett@cp.org
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
    sheila.leggett@neb-one.gc.ca, elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/09/06/bc-geoff-plant-enbridge-hearings.html?cmp=rss

    http://www.heenanblaikie.com/en/ourTeam/bio?id=5119

    Geoff Plant, Q.C.bPartner
    Vancouver 604 891.1186
    Victoria 250 381.9321
    gplant@heenan.ca


    http://www.canadianlawlist.com/listingdetail/contact/elisabeth-graff-654409/

    Elisabeth Graff
    Solicitor
    Called to the bar: 2008 (BC)
    Justice (BC), Min. of
    Abor. Law - Environ., Resource & Abor. Law Group
    PO Box 9220, Stn. Prov. Govt
    Victoria, British Columbia V8W 9J1
    Phone: 250-356-1155 Ext:
    Fax: 250-356-8939
    Email: elisabeth.graff@gov.bc.ca

    http://www.ipe.ualberta.ca/en/EventsandSeminars/ChinaandIndiaGlobalPowerShiftO/SpeakerProfiles/JohnCarruthers.aspx

    http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Former+Attorney+General+Geoff+Plant+represent+Northern+Gateway+hearings/7199978/story.html

    http://www.thecanadianpress.com/english/marketing/contacts/CPContactsEnglish.pdf

    http://www.jameskeller.ca/contact/

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/bc-lawyer-grills-northern-gateway-president-on-enbridges-liability/article4526907/

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    To: <sheila.leggett@neb-one.gc.ca>; <gaetan.caron@neb-one.gc.ca>;
    < rowland.harrison@neb-one.gc.ca>; <john.bulger@neb-one.gc.ca>;
    < kenneth.bateman@neb-one.gc.ca>; <roland.george@neb-one.gc.ca>;
    < georgette.habib@neb-one.gc.ca>; <david.hamilton@neb-one.gc.ca>;
    < kenneth.vollman@neb-one.gc.ca>
    Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:02 PM
    Subject: We just talked Ms. Legget I must say you picked a bad day to
    play dumb EH?

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:07:18 -0300
    Subject: BTW Heather Remember when Harper stopped the BHP Potash deal?
    To: martinhea39@gmail.com
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:44:45 -0300
    Subject: I just called from 902 800 0369 Perhaps the Qatari Embassy
    should study the attachments closely EH Mr Alward?
    To: musoviczl@repsol.com, pribbeck@repsol.com, vcmorrissettem@repsol.com
    Cc: ottawa@mofa.gov.qa, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, David Amos
    < david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
    leader <leader@greenparty.ca>

    Qatari Embassy in Ottawa, Canada
    800-150 Metcalfe Street
    Ottawa Ontario K2P 1P1
    Telephone (+1) 613 241 4917
     E-mail ottawa@mofa.gov.qa
    http://www.repsolenergy.com/rena_team/rena_team.html

    http://www.repsolenergy.com/press_room/press_room.html

    http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/kuwait-koweit/bilateral_relations_bilaterales/fs-qatar-fd.aspx?lang=eng&view=d

    http://www.nccar.ca/statements/news-releases/establishment-of-the-embassy-of-qatar-in-canadaune-ambassade-du-qatar-a-ottawa/

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Alan Dark <Alan.Dark@cbc.ca>
    Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:57:14 -0400
    Subject: Re: I just called from 902 800 0369 and tried to talk to you
    Mr Tomick (Out of office)
    To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

    Thank you for your email.  Please be advised that I am currently out of
    the office; returning Monday Agust 27th.

    If your matter is urgent, please contact Camilla Inderberg at
    416-205-5545 or by email camilla.inderberg@cbc.ca or Janice Smith
    416-205-2940 or janice.smith@cbc.ca

    Best regards,
    Al



    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:03:50 -0300
    Subject: Ask yourself why CBC would report none of this
    To: kim_woima@nexeninc.com, "greg.weston"<greg.weston@cbc.ca>,
    jack.tomik@cbc.ca, alan.dark@cbc.ca
    Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, jacques_poitras
    < jacques_poitras@cbc.ca>

    You do know Landslide Annie is on the Board of Directors of Nexen I hope

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2012/08/20/f-scott-peterson-cnooc-nexen.html


    http://www.nexeninc.com/en/Governance/BoardofDirectors/BoardBios.aspx
    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:17:20 -0300
    Subject: Re Danny Williams Vs the Sierra Club Very Interesting lawsuit
    and counterclaim EH Mr Bennnett
    To: jb@sierraclub.ca, lgue@davidsuzuki.org, grenouf
    < grenouf@genuinewitty.com>, editor@theindependent.ca
    Cc: jbaker@ottenheimerbaker.com, info@alderonironore.com,
    ktsakumis@alderonironore.com, "pgleeson@alderonironore.com \"David
    Amos\""<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, jvettese@casselsbrock.com

    http://thechronicleherald.ca/canada/125139-muskrat-falls-critic-countersues-williams

    http://atlantic.sierraclub.ca/node/4542

    FYI I just call Bruno Marcocchio @ 902-567-1132 and he had no clue as
    to what I was talking about However trust that just like Gretchen
    Fitzgerald, Danny Williams and his corporate pals know EXACTLY who I
    am and why I was calling.

    http://www.tmx.com/en/news_events/exchange_bulletins/bulletins/10-7-2011_TSX-NewListingADV.html

    http://alderonironore.com/corporate/board_directors/

    http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/05/nfld-whistleblower-dodges-libel-charge.html

    2005 01 T 0010

    IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR
    TRIAL DIVISION
    BETWEEN:

    WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF
    AND:
    BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT

    AND BETWEEN:
    BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT/PLAINTIFF
    BY COUNTERCLAIM

    AND: WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF/FIRST DEFENDANT
    BY COUNTERCLAIM

    AND: T. ALEX HICKMAN SECOND DEFENDANT
    BY COUNTERCLAIM

    AND: THOMAS MARSHALL THIRD DEFENDANT
    BY COUNTERCLAIM

    AND: DANNY WILLIAMS FOURTH DEFENDANT
    BY COUNTERCLAIM

    AND: EDWARD M. ROBERTS FIFTH DEFENDANT
    BY COUNTERCLAIM

    AND: JOHN CROSBIE SIXTH DEFENDANT
    BY COUNTERCLAIM

    AND: PATTERSON PALMER SEVENTH DEFENDANT
    BY COUNTERCLAIM

    SUMMARY OF CURRENT DOCUMENT

    Court File Number(s):2005 01 T 0010

    Date of Filing of Document: 25 January 2005

    Name of Filing Party or Person: Stephen J. May

    Application to which Document being filed relates: Amended Application
    of the Plaintiff/Defendant by Counterclaim to maintain an Order
    restricting publication, to strike portions of the Statement of
    Defence, strike the Counterclaim in it's entirety, and to refer this
    proceeding to case management.

    Statement of purpose in filing: To maintain an Order restricting
    publication, to strike portions of the Statement of Defence, strike
    the Counterclaim in its entirety and refer this proceeding to case
    management.

    A F F I D A V I T

    I, Stephen J. May, of the City of St. John's, in the Province of
    Newfoundland and Labrador, Barrister and Solicitor, make oath and say
    as follows:

    THAT I am a Partner in the St. John's office of PATTERSON PALMER
    solicitors for William Matthews, the Member of Parliament for
    Random-Burin-St. George's in the Parliament of Canada.

    THAT Mr. Matthews originally retained Mr. Edward Roberts, Q.C. on or
    about 30 April 2002 after Mr. Byron Prior, the Defendant/Plaintiff by
    Counterclaim, had made allegations against Mr. Matthews in a
    publication called "My Inheritance - The truth - Not Fiction: A Town
    with a Secret". In that publication, the allegation was made that Mr.
    Matthews had had sex with a girl who had been prostituted by her
    mother. That girl was alleged to have been Mr. Prior's sister.

    THAT upon being retained, Mr. Edward Roberts wrote a letter to Mr.
    Prior. That letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit "1" to my
    Affidavit.

    THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts' letter to Mr. Prior, Mr. Roberts
    received a 1 May 2002 e-mail from Mr. Prior. That e-mail is attached
    as Exhibit "2".

    THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts receipt of the e-mail, Mr. Prior swore
    an Affidavit acknowledging that what had been said in that publication
    was false. That Affidavit is attached as Exhibit "3" to my Affidavit.
    Following Mr. Roberts' receipt of that Affidavit, Mr. Matthews advised
    that he was satisfied not to pursue the matter any further and our
    firm closed our file.

    THAT on or about 25 October 2004, I was retained by Mr. Matthews
    following his gaining knowledge that a web site, made a series of
    allegations against him relating to my having sex with a girl of
    approximately 12 years old through to an approximate age of 15 years
    old. It also accused him of being a father of one of her children and
    accused him of having raped that girl. Upon checking the web site I
    saw that Byron Prior, the Defendant, had been identified as the author
    of the material on the site.

    THAT Mr. Matthews instructed me to write Mr. Prior, to remind him of
    the fact that the allegations had been admitted to being false through
    a 16 May 2002 Affidavit to advise him of Mr. Matthews' intentions to
    commence legal proceedings if the comments were not removed from the
    web site. A copy of my letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit "4"
    to this Affidavit.

    THAT I attach as Exhibit "5" a transcript from a 5 November 2004
    voicemail left by David Amos, identified in the voicemail as a friend
    of Mr. Prior.

    THAT I attach as Exhibit "6" a portion of a 6 November 2004 e-mail
    from Mr. Amos.

    THAT until I received his voicemail and e-mail, I had never heard of Mr.
    Amos.

    THAT Mr. Amos has continued to send me e-mail since his 5 November
    e-mail. Including his 6 November 2004 e-mail, I have received a total
    of 15 e-mails as of 23 January 2005. All do not address Mr. Matthews'
    claim or my involvement as Mr. Matthews' solicitor. I attach as
    Exhibit "7" a portion of a 12 January 2005 e-mail that Mr. Amos sent
    to me but originally came to my attention through Ms. Lois Skanes
    whose firm had received a copy. This e-mail followed the service of
    the Statement of Claim on 11 January 2005 on Mr. Prior. I also attach
    as Exhibit "8" a copy of a 19 January 2005 e-mail from Mr. Amos.

    THAT I attach as Exhibit "9" a copy of a 22 November 2004 letter
    addressed to me from Edward Roberts, the Lieutenant Governor of
    Newfoundland and Labrador covering a 2 September 2004 letter from Mr.
    Amos addressed to John Crosbie, Edward Roberts, in his capacity as
    Lieutenant Governor, Danny Williams, in his capacity as Premier of
    Newfoundland and Labrador, and Brian F. Furey, President of the Law
    Society of Newfoundland and Labrador. I requested a copy of this
    letter from Government House after asking Mr. Roberts if he had
    received any correspondence from Mr. Amos during his previous
    representation of Mr. Matthews. He advised me that he received a
    letter since becoming Lieutenant Governor, portions of which involved
    his representation of Mr. Matthews. Mr. Roberts' letter also covered
    his reply to Mr. Amos.

    THAT I attach as Exhibit "10" an e-mail from Mr. Amos received on
    Sunday, 23 January 2005.

    THAT I swear this Affidavit in support of the Application to strike
    Mr. Prior's counterclaim.

    SWORN to before me at
    St. John's, Province of Newfoundland and Labrador this 24th day of
    January, 2005.

    Signed by Della Hart
    STEPHEN J. MAY
    Signature STAMP
    DELLA HART
    A Commissioner for Oaths in and for
    the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador. My commission expires on
    December 31, 2009



    ---- Original Message -----
    From: "McKnight, Gisele"McKnight.Gisele@kingscorecord.com
    To: lcampenella@ledger.com
    Cc:motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
    Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:53 PM
    Subject: David Amos

    Hello Lisa,

    David Amos asked me to contact you. I met him last June after he became
    an independent (not representing any political party) candidate in our
    federal
    election that was held June 28. He was a candidate in our constituency of
    Fundy (now called  Fundy-Royal).

    I wrote a profile story about him, as I did all other candidates. That
    story appeared in the Kings County Record June 22. A second story, written
    by one of my reporters, appeared on the same date, which was a report on
    the candidates' debate held June 18.

    As I recall David Amos came last of four candidates in the election.
    The winner got 14,997 votes, while Amos got 358.

    I have attached the two stories that appeared, as well as a photo
    taken by reporter Erin Hatfield during the debate. I couldn't find the photo
    that ran, but this one is very similar.


    A1-debate A1-amos,David for MP 24.doc debate 2.JPG

    Gisele McKnight editor
    Kings County Record
    Sussex, New Brunswick
    Canada
    506-433-1070


    Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd

    By Erin Hatfield

    "If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your
    world is all screwed up, rearrange it."

    The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at
    the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to
    watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if
    unofficial, theme song for the debate.

    The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as
    they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn.
    Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue
    chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent
    left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty,
    mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards
    the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.

    The debate was moderated by Leo Melanson of CJCW Radio and was
    organized by the Sussex Valley Jaycees. Candidates wereasked a barrage
    of questions bypanelists Gisele McKnight of the Kings County Record
    and Lisa Spencer of CJCW.

    Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates
    responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the
    exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices.
    Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each
    other on their answers and criticizing eachothers' party leaders.
    Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the
    questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of comic
    relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in
    response to the question of thenational gun registry. "Nobody's
    getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."

    Herron, a Progressive Conservative MP turned Liberal, veered from his
    party'splatform with regard to gun control. "It was ill advised but
    well intentioned," Herron said. "No matter what side of the house I am
    on, I'm voting against it." Pat Hanratty agreed there were better
    places for the gun registry dollars to be spent.Recreational hunters
    shouldn't have been penalized by this gun registry," he said.

    The gun registry issues provoked the tempers of Herron and Moore. At
    one point Herron got out of his seat and threw a piece of paper in
    front of Moore. "Read that," Herron said to Moore, referring to the
    voting record of Conservative Party leader Steven Harper. According to
    Herron, Harper voted in favour of the registry on the first and second
    readings of the bill in 1995. "He voted against it when it counted, at
    final count," Moore said. "We needa government with courage to
    register sex offenders rather than register the property of law
    abiding citizens."

    The crowd was vocal throughout the evening, with white haired men and
    women heckling from the Conservative side. "Shut up John," one woman
    yelled. "How can you talk about selling out?" a man yelled whenHerron
    spoke about his fear that the Conservatives are selling farmers out.

    Although the Liberal side was less vocal, Kings East MLA Leroy
    Armstrong weighed in at one point. "You're out of touch," Armstrong
    yelled to Moore from the crowd when the debate turned to the cost of
    post-secondary education. Later in the evening Amos challenged
    Armstrong to a public debate of their own. "Talk is cheap. Any time,
    anyplace," Armstrong responded.

    As the crowd made its way out of the building following the debate,
    candidates worked the room. They shook hands with well-wishers and
    fielded questions from spectators-all part of the decision-making
    process for the June 28 vote.

    Cutline - David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his
    favourite possessions--motorcycles.

    McKnight/KCR

    The Unconventional Candidate

    David Amos Isn't Campaigning For Your Vote, But....

    By Gisele McKnight

    FUNDY--He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his
    wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone
    that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."

    Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot--David Amos.

    The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife
    and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from
    running for office in Canada.

    One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail
    to meet Elections Canada requirements.

    When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his
    favourite place to do so--Fundy.

    Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his
    dissatisfaction with politicians.

    "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he
    said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."

    The journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in
    1987. He woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he
    needed to change his life.

    "I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that
    sometimes in midlife."

    So Amos, who'd lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners
    motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952
    Panhead motorcycle.

    "Annie and I rode around for awhile (three years, to be exact)
    experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said. "This is how you
    renew your faith in mankind - you help anyone you can, you never ask
    for anything, but you take what they offer."

    For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs
    and conversation all over North America.

    Since he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son
    and a daughter and become a house-husband - Mr. Mom, as he calls
    himself.

    He also describes himself in far more colourful terms--a motorcyclist
    rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed
    individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a proud
    Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."

    Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.

    "But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said.
    "It's alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"

    Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.

    "I didn't appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door
    interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can
    call me. I'm not going to drive my opinions down their throats."

    And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.

    "I won't take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It's
    not about money. It goes against what I'm fighting about."

    What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues - tainted blood,
    the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to
    name a few.

    "The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs - fishing,
    farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm
    death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it
    (NAFTA) out the window.

    NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an
    easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.

    Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.

    "There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me,
    especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right.
    Don't necessarily vote for me, but vote."

    Although...if you're going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have
    your X by his name.

    "I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and
    say, 'what the hell.'"


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:01:00 -0300
    Subject: RE John Conway of the University of Regina and his published
    opinion of the demise of the NDP In SK
    To: John.Conway@uregina.ca, voices@operationmaple.com, bwall
    < bwall@mla.legassembly.sk.ca>, premier <premier@gov.sk.ca>,
    bboyd@mla.legassembly.sk.ca, pr@potashcorp.com,
    Podwika@potashcorp.com, fosterd@bennettjones.ca,
    corporate.relations@potashcorp.com
    Cc: dwain@saskndp.ca, maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>,
    Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com, jane.mcaloon@bhpbilliton.com,
    "jacques.nasser"<jacques.nasser@bhpbilliton.com>, occupyfredericton
    < occupyfredericton@gmail.com>, "9.17occupywallstreet"
    < 9.17occupywallstreet@gmail.com>, occupyottawa
    < occupyottawa@gmail.com>

    http://www.operationmaple.com/home/173-saskatchewan-ndp-faces-electoral-disaster

    http://www.arts.uregina.ca/john-conway

    I don't believe John Conway knows as much as he thinks he does so he
    deserved to be somewhat more enlightened EH Brad Wall? Rest assured
    that I called him and told him as much as he wanted to know while
    Lingenfelter's campain manager played as dumb as a post about my
    concerns.

    However as dumb as Lingenfelter and his cohorts may pretend to be if
    the NDP boss in SK truly practiced old style, right wing "take no
    prisoners" politicking he who have embarassed the hell out of Brad
    Wall last year with the letter from Jac Nasser to mean old me that is
    hereto attached.

    Anyone with two clues between their ears or even a dumb NDP dude would
    know that BHP Billiton's Marius Kloppers visiting Brad Wall during an
    election campaign is just no coincidence at all. Something smells
    truly rotten indeed. However the only way to resolve my concerns is
    byway of litigation CORRECT MR WALL?

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/breakingnews/bhp-billiton-ceo-meets-with-saskatchewan-premier-during-election-campaign-131894618.html

    Have your lawyers review the emials below and tell your Attorney
    General to find the documents I sent his office byway REGISTERED US
    MAIL in 2005 and tell them to give me a call if they have more BALLS
    than you EH MR WALL?

    Veritas Vincit
    David Raymond Amos
    902 800 0369


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
    Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:16:55 -0700 (PDT)
    Subject: Fw: RE BHP's game I just called Bill Boyd and the NDP In SK
    they played dumb as usual
    To: bwall@mla.legassembly.sk.ca, dlingenfelter@mla.legassembly.sk.ca,
    bboyd@mla.legassembly.sk.ca, pr@potashcorp.com,
    Podwika@potashcorp.com, fosterd@bennettjones.ca,
    corporate.relations@potashcorp.com
    Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com


    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Subject: Yo Shawny Baby interestng trick your pal Carl Urquhart and
    his buddies in the RCMP and Fat Fred City's Finest tried to pull on my
    son and I last night EH?
    To: "MLA"<MLA@carlurquhart.com>, "kelly. lamrock"
    < kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca>, "jack. keir"<jack.keir@gnb.ca>,
    "jack.macdougall"<jack.macdougall@greenparty.ca>, "Ed. Doherty"
    < Ed.Doherty@gnb.ca>, "wally.stiles@gnb.ca"<wally.stiles@gnb.ca>,
    "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "danfour"
    < danfour@myginch.com>, "Richard Harris"
    < injusticecoalition@hotmail.com>, "tracy"<tracy@jatam.org>, "nb.
    premier"<nb.premier@gmail.com>, "nbpolitico"<nbpolitico@gmail.com>,
    "terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>
    Cc: "Wayne.Lang"<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "rob.lafrance"
    < rob.lafrance@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "shawn. graham"<shawn.graham@gnb.ca>,
    "John. Foran"<John.Foran@gnb.ca>, "john"
    < john@johncampbellsaintjohnharbour.ca>, "krisaustin"
    < krisaustin@panb.org>, "robin reid"<zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, "tony"
    < tony@peoplestandup.ca>, fortsaskatchewan.vegreville@assembly.ab.ca,
    "Barry.MacKnight"<Barry.MacKnight@fredericton.ca>, "Barry Winters"
    < sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
    Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 6:25 PM

    How dumb was that? I must ask did he expect the cops to arrest both of
    us and then call us both crazy? Hell Urquhart even bragged in front of
    the cops that he did the same shit on July 4th, 2008 That malicious
    nonsense didn't work out too well for the long gone lawyer and former
    Minister of Health Mikey Murphy partcularly after the nasty French
    bastard Chucky Lebanc and hs pals violated my privacy and blogged
    about N'esy Pas? I told the cops last nght to simply Google my name and
    the dumb bastards laughed.

    FYI type in Davd Amos to see that I wa not jokng with the smiling dumb
    bastards last nght Google will offer Chucky Leblanc's bullshit about
    mean old me at the top of the hit  list DUHHH?

    Davd Amos plus Google equals

    http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html

    Do tell does Carl Baby really think I won't sue his nasty arse
    someday? Ya think the corrupt ex cop of Fat Fred City's Finest would
    at least wait until he and his cohorts got sworn in to take over your
    jobs EH?

    --- On Mon, 9/13/10, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:


    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Subject: How is your conscience and sense of ethical conduct doing now
    ladies?
    To: Jane.McAloon@bhpbilliton.com, Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com
    Cc: "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"<william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
    "Dean.Buzza"<Dean.Buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
    Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:57 PM


    Jane McAloon (Group Company Secretary) BEc (Hons), LLB, GDipGov, FCIS
    Term of office: Jane McAloon was appointed Group Company Secretary in
    July 2007 and joined the BHP Billiton Group in September 2006 as
    Company Secretary for BHP Billiton Limited.
    Skills and experience: Prior to joining BHP Billiton, Jane McAloon
    held the position of Company Secretary and Group Manager External and
    Regulatory Services in the Australian Gas Light Company. She
    previously held various State and Commonwealth government positions,
    including Director General of the NSW Ministry of Energy and Utilities
    and Deputy Director General for the NSW Cabinet Office, as well as
    working in private legal practice. She is a Fellow of the Institute of
    Chartered Secretaries.

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: "Collins, Susan J (COSEC)"<Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com>
    Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:23:12 +1000
    Subject: Email to BHP Billiton Chairman's
    To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com


    Please find attached a letter from Mr Jac Nasser, Chairman of BHP
    Billiton

    Susan Collins
    Company Secretariat
    BHP Billiton | 180 Lonsdale St | Melbourne Vic 3000 |Australia
    T: +61 3 9609 2654 | M: +61 427 713 994 | F: +61 3 9609 3290
    E: susan.j.collins@bhpbilliton.comjane.mcaloon@bhpbilliton.com    >

    << Amos D 2010 09 14.pdf>>


    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
    Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:36 AM
    To: pr@potashcorp.com; Podwika@potashcorp.com;
    fosterd@bennettjones.ca; corporate.relations@potashcorp.com;
    lgold.blcanada@b-l.com; shawn. graham; David.ALWARD@gnb.ca;
    krisaustin; jacques_poitras@cbc.ca; cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca;
    tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com; nmiller@corridor.ca;
    bruce.northrup@gnb.ca; atlbf@nb.aibn.com; akapoor@globeandmail.com;
    nmacadam@globeandmail.com; vepp@globeandmail.com;
    potash@mackenziepartners.com; contactus@kingsdaleshareholder.com;
    rick.hancox; Bernard.LeBlanc; Liebenberg, Andre;
    mclellana@bennettjones.com; MooreR; danfour; oldmaison@yahoo.com;
    Harris, Brendan; Dean.Buzza; Gilles. Blinn
    Cc: wcoady; michel.desneiges@sade-els.org; producers@stu.ca;
    WaterWarCrimes; Penny Bright; tony; Nasser, Jacques
    Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
    of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
    you people buy much stock in their stock eh?

    With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
    issues again about  theexploitation of our natural resources to a
    bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
    attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
    McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
    did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
    conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
    Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
    now)

    Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
    with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
    sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
    simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
    have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?

    Veritas Vincit
    David Raymond Amos


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    http://www.bennettjones.com/people_item.aspx?person=821

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf

    http://www.potashcorp.com/media/POT_2010_Letter_from_BHP_Billiton's_Chairman.pdf

    http://www.bhpbilliton.com/bb/aboutUs/companyOverview/ourBoard.jsp

    http://www.potashcorp.com/about/management_board/senior_management/podwika/

    http://www.corridor.ca/media/2010-press-releases/20100510.html

    http://www.bennettjones.com/people_item.aspx?person=712&name=foster&pg=&office=

    http://www.robmooremp.com/081908.htm

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/05/07/nb-penobsquis-water-lawyer-1056.html?ref=rss

    http://www.newbrunswickbeacon.ca/2010/03/risk-and-reward-when-rural-life-meets-economic-development/5666

    http://www.vancouverislandwaterwatchcoalition.ca/go456a/FRACKING

    http://www.elements.nb.ca/theme/ecojustice/JeanPaul/JeanPaul.htm

    http://www.nbmediacoop.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1133:penobsquis-residents-seek-compensation-for-damages&catid=82:environment&Itemid=197



    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Subject: Yo Mr Harper What part of this email did the many Green
    Meanies fail to understand last year?
    To: "pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>, "davidc.coon"<davidc.coon@gmail.com>,
    leader@greenparty.ca, "campaign"<campaign@briantopp.ca>,
    "Nycole.Turmel"<Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca>, "bob.rae"
    < bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>, "briangallant10"
    < briangallant10@gmail.com>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
    < oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "gregory.graham"
    < gregory.graham@tidescanada.org>, "ross"<ross@tidescanada.org>,
    "ross.mcmillan"<ross.mcmillan@tidescanada.org>,
    info@blackriver.ns.ca, "maritime_malaise"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>,
    darce@nsrighttoknow.ca, timb@thecoast.ca, "counsel"
    < counsel@barackobama.com>, "newt"<newt@newt.org>, "info"
    < info@mittromney.com>
    Cc: jb@sierraclub.ca, "premier@gov.ns.ca"<premier@gov.ns.ca>,
    "premier.ministre"<premier.ministre@cex.gouv.qc.ca>,
    "OfficeofthePremier, Office PREM:EX"<premier@gov.bc.ca>, "premier"
    < premier@gnb.ca>
    Date: Friday, January 27, 2012, 8:46 AM


    You and lawyers such as Joey Oliver, Gary Lunn and Dizzy Lizzy May are
    well aware of why I have "Issues" with the Greasy Gassy Oily Guys, the
    National Energy Board and all the Green Meanies EH?

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:26:17 -0300
    Subject: I just called
    To: timb@thecoast.ca
    Cc: info@greenbelt.ca, taxworthy@gordonfn.org, tim@gordonfn.org,
    tbrodhead@mcconnellfoundation.ca

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Lisa Gue <lgue@davidsuzuki.org>
    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:37:02 -0400
    Subject: RE: i just called some of you again. Instead of calling me
    back Suzuki's people just surf the net and play dumb Correct?
    To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Cc: Jean-Patrick Toussaint <jptoussaint@davidsuzuki.org>, Sutton Eaves
    < seaves@davidsuzuki.org>, Ian Bruce <ibruce@davidsuzuki.org>

    Mr. Amos,

    When you called my cell phone earlier, as I was on my way into a
    meeting, you offered to send me an e-mail outline the information you
    are looking for from the David Suzuki Foundation. Is this it??

    Lisa Gue

    From: Sutton Eaves <seaves@davidsuzuki.org>
    Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: The greedy pople on the Fake Left
    say nasty things about mean old me as well EH Stevey Boy Harper?
    To: "David Amos"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
    Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 2:55 PM


    Thanks for your message. I am out of the office until Tuesday, April 19.

    If this is a media request, please contact Ian Hanington at
    ihanington@davidsuzuki.org, or Leanne Clare at lclare@davidsuzuki.org.

    Otherwise, I'll return your message when I return.

    Have a great day!


    From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: The greedy pople on the Fake Left say nasty things about mean
    old me as well EH Stevey Boy Harper?
    To: action@ecologyaction.ca, gretchenf@sierraclub.ca, tracy@jatam.org,
    dgiroux@tlb.sympatico.ca, mjgorman@ns.sympatico.ca,
    nmiller@corridor.ca, coalitionstlaurent@me.com,
    jeanpatrick.toussaint@adelaide.edu.au, info@climateprojectcanada.org,
    lgue@davidsuzuki.org, ibruce@davidsuzuki.org, seaves@davidsuzuki.org,
    "pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>, "IgnatM"<IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>, "danfour"
    < danfour@myginch.com>, "bruce.northrup@gnb.ca"
    < bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, "charlieparkermla"
    < charlieparkermla@ns.aliantzinc.ca>, "ducepg"<ducepg@parl.gc.ca>,
    "LaytoJ"<LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>, leader@greenparty.ca
    Cc: "pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>, ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca
    Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 2:54 PM


    From: John Bennett <jb@sierraclub.ca>
    Subject: Re: i just called some of you again. Instead of calling me
    back Suzuki's people just surf the net and play dumb Correct?
    To: "Paula Boutis"<pboutis@ilercampbell.com>,
    "JeanPaulBourque@gmail.com"<JeanPaulBourque@gmail.com>, "Wayne
    Gallant"<Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "webo@xplornet.com"
    < webo@xplornet.com>, "Gretchen Fitzgerald"<gretchenf@sierraclub.ca>,
    "maritime_malaise"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
    Cc: "pfalvo@yellowknife.ca"<pfalvo@yellowknife.ca>
    Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 2:26 PM


    He is known to Gretchen as not quiet rational.

    John Bennett Executive Director Sierra Club Canada 613 291 6888

    -----Original Message-----
    From: "Paula  Boutis"<pboutis@ilercampbell.com>
    Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:18:46
    To: JeanPaulBourque@gmail.com<JeanPaulBourque@gmail.com>; Wayne
    Gallant<Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>;
    webo@xplornet.com<webo@xplornet.com>;
    jb@sierraclub.ca<jb@sierraclub.ca>;
    gretchenf@sierraclub.ca<gretchenf@sierraclub.ca>;
    maritime_malaise<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
    Cc: pfalvo@yellowknife.ca<pfalvo@yellowknife.ca>
    Subject: RE: i just called some of you again. Instead of calling me back
    Suzuki's people just surf the net and play dumb Correct?

    I am not responding to Dave Amos' emails, but I believe I have heard
    he has some "issues".  I have no sense of what his involvement is with
    the organization or why he is threatening law suits (my receptionist
    just intercepted a call and he told her he didn't want to leave a
    message and to just tell her that he would "see me in court").

    Does anyone have any idea what to do about this guy?   Should we just
    ignore him?

    Paula

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0300
    Subject: i just called some of you again. Instead of calling me back
    Suzuki's people just surf the net and play dumb Correct?
    To: action@ecologyaction.ca, gretchenf@sierraclub.ca, tracy@jatam.org,
    dgiroux@tlb.sympatico.ca, mjgorman@ns.sympatico.ca,
    nmiller@corridor.ca, coalitionstlaurent@me.com,
    jeanpatrick.toussaint@adelaide.edu.au, info@climateprojectcanada.org,
    lgue@davidsuzuki.org, ibruce@davidsuzuki.org, seaves@davidsuzuki.org,
    pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, IgnatM <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>
    Cc: maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>,
    "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, danfour
    < danfour@myginch.com>, "bruce.northrup@gnb.ca"
    < bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, charlieparkermla
    < charlieparkermla@ns.aliantzinc.ca>, ducepg <ducepg@parl.gc.ca>,
    LaytoJ <LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>, leader@greenparty.ca

    http://www.coalitionsaintlaurent.ca/en/contact

    Jean-Patrick Toussaint
    Spokesperson (english), St-Lawrence Coalition
    (David Suzuki Foundation)
    514-316-4646

    http://www.davidsuzuki.org/fr/

    http://www.climateprojectcanada.org/.profile/jtoussaint3

    http://www.adelaide.edu.au/directory/jeanpatrick.toussaint

    http://www.climateprojectcanada.org/about/board

    Did that lots of people have an opinion of bugets not just David
    Suzuki and the greasy gassy oily guys such as Emera, Corridor
    Resources and irving Oil

    http://www.davidsuzuki.org/media/

    Just Dave
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    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 16:04:12 -0300
    Subject: FYI here is a litte Deju Vu from Saint John Harbour for Dr Ed
    to review EH Shawny Baby?
    To: john <john@johncampbellsaintjohnharbour.ca>,
    "carlkillen@gmail.com"<carlkillen@gmail.com>, "Ed. Doherty"
    < Ed.Doherty@gnb.ca>, sharon_christian@transcanada.com, Aaron Kennedy
    < sjmpabk@nb.sympatico.ca>, alison.gayton@unb.ca,
    Allison_denning@hc-sc.gc.ca, amcallis@nrcan.gc.ca,
    mcnan@reg2.health.nb.ca, info@irishhouseoftara.com,
    ohallowe@gov.ns.ca, caring@rogers.com, cstpierre@nbpower.com, "Charles
    L. Debly"<charlesdebly56@yahoo.com>, dannyrobichaud@nb.aibn.com,
    deg@nb.aibn.com, darrell@unbi.org, dawnc@nbnet.nb.ca,
    ddavies@mccarthy.ca, "Dorothy C. Dawson"<lawbrodc@hotmail.com>,
    erik.denis@gnb.ca, FollowFran@yahoo.ca, fjames@gmail.com,
    wattadil@nbnet.nb.ca, gnemecr@repsolypf.com, macgriff@nbnet.nb.ca,
    saurtwo@nb.sympatico.ca, ileadley@duke-energy.com,
    horse97@nb.sympatico.ca, Jake.Harms@justice.gc.ca, jsmellie@osler.com,
    pearcer@nbnet.nb.ca, joel_forrest@transcanada.com,
    pappas.john@jdirving.com, smithl@bennettjones.ca,
    len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com, lratelle@gazmetro.com,
    Brunswick.Pipeline@ec.gc.ca, mbrown@heritagegas.com,
    mosher.mark@jdirving.com, matthew_wharton@transcanada.com,
    burgess@nbnet.nb.ca, christiemike@rogers.com,
    Muratte.Graves@irvingoil.com, murray99@nbnet.nb.ca,
    gretenern@bennettjones.ca, nmiller@corridor.ns.ca,
    longsure@nbnet.nb.ca, peggyjames@rogers.com, Paul.Vanderlaan@gnb.ca,
    zedpl@parl.gc.ca, pthompson@blgcanada.com, Pcblaney@rogers.com,
    rjpelletier@duke-energy.com, rene.gallant@nspower.ca,
    richard.neufeld@fmc-law.com, Rinde.Powell@encana.com,
    fairbairn@capp.ca, Robert.Gall@shell.com, robmoirndp@gmail.com,
    ronald.moore@esso.ca, ron@unitedway.aibn.nb.com,
    shelley.black@enbridge.com, mcgratst@gov.ns.ca,
    sweilcox@nb.sympatico.ca, curriet@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca,
    ted_semadeni@anadarko.com, tdalgleish@mccarthy.ca,
    edterry@nbnet.nb.ca, tinkpen@gmail.com, William.Gould@gnb.ca
    Cc: "kelly. lamrock"<kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca>, "shawn. graham"
    < shawn.graham@gnb.ca>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
    danfour <danfour@myginch.com>, robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>,
    "tomp. young"<tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com>, tony
    < tony@peoplestandup.ca>

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:59:59 -0300
    Subject: I called you all and tried to explain how I can help with
    your concerns I repeat just say my name
    To: action@ecologyaction.ca, gretchenf@sierraclub.ca, tracy
    < tracy@jatam.org>, dgiroux@tlb.sympatico.ca, mjgorman@ns.sympatico.ca
    Cc: nmiller <nmiller@corridor.ca>, "wally.stiles@gnb.ca"
    < wally.stiles@gnb.ca>

    If nothing else listen to this and get pissed off lIke mean old me. At
    least that emotion is honest.

    http://www.archive.org/details/Corridor1

    Veritas Vincit
    David Raymond Amos



    http://www.sierraclub.ca/en/in-the-news

    http://atlantic.sierraclub.ca/en/media/release/coalition-calls-leaders-act-immediately-stop-oil-and-gas-exploration-gulf-st-lawrence

    COALITION CALLS ON LEADERS TO ACT IMMEDIATELY TO STOP OIL AND GAS
    EXPLORATION IN GULF OF ST. LAWRENCE
    For Immediate Release - October 4, 2010
    PICTOU, NS - Today's decision by the Canada Newfoundland and Labrador
    Offshore Petroleum Board (CNLOPB) to allow seismic blasting in the
    Gulf of St. Lawrence was met with shock and concern by a coalition
    calling for a moratorium on oil and gas development in the Gulf of St.
    Lawrence. The coalition - made of aboriginal, fishing, and
    environmental organizations - is calling on municipal, provincial,
    federal, and aboriginal leaders to act swiftly to halt the testing.

    "With this decision, the CNLOPB has approved an activity that could
    damage this entire precious ecosystem," according to Mary Gorman of
    the Save Our Seas and Shores, "We want this decision reversed
    immediately, and action taken to allow jurisdictions bordering on the
    Gulf to have a say in its future."

    "Seismic testing could start in the next 48 hours, potentially
    damaging marine mammals like blue whales, and disrupting fish and
    fisheries. This approval has given oil and gas as a toehold in the
    Gulf that could lead to full scale drilling," according to Danielle
    Giroux of the. "Fishermen I work for need more say over protecting the
    Gulf. We want the CNLOPB's decision reversed immediately."

    "An oil spill in the Gulf of St. Lawrence would impact fish stocks and
    coastal communities in Quebec, PEI, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and
    Newfoundland. Moreover, the national importance of this ecosystem must
    be upheld."  says Gretchen Fitzgerald, of the Sierra Club Canada. "
    Federal laws to protect endangered species and fish habitat recognize
    the importance of protecting our shared biodiversity and resources.
    This decision is not reflecting this shared responsibility or concerns
    expressed by groups around the Gulf."

    -30-



    For more information, please contact:

    Mary Gorman, Save our Seas and Shores, 902-926-2128/mjgorman@ns.sympatico.ca

    Danielle Giroux (Francais), Attention Fragile (Magdalen Islands)
    418-969-9440/dgiroux@tlb.sympatico.ca

    Gretchen Fitzgerald, Director, Sierra Club Atlantic, 902-444-3113/
    gretchenf@sierraclub.ca

    Mark Butler, Policy Director, Ecology Action Centre,
    902-429-5287/action@ecologyaction.ca

    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
    Subject: Say Hoka Hey to the very sneaky lawyer Dizzy Lizzy May for me will
    ya?
    To: JeanPaulBourque@gmail.com, "Wayne.Gallant"
    < Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, webo@xplornet.com,
    board@sierraclub.ca, jb@sierraclub.ca, gretchenf@sierraclub.ca,
    maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca
    Cc: pfalvo@yellowknife.ca, pboutis@ilercampbell.com, leader@greenparty.ca
    Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 2:28 PM


    http://www.sierraclub.ca/en/john-bennet-bio

    Bennett was assisting Cape Bretoners opposing a coal-fired power plant
    at Point Aconi in Nova Scotia when he first caught the attention
    Elizabeth May, then Sierra Club Canada's executive-director. May liked
    his approach - among other things, he'd brought his wife and two
    daughters to a potluck supper meeting and assured the group he was
    there to hear from them, not issue orders. Several years - and, after
    an interview on a train ride from Toronto to Ottawa -- later, she
    hired him as the Club's director of atmosphere and energy.

    He managed environmental education campaigns; was the Club's main
    spokesperson on air, energy, automotive and climate change issues;
    prepared fundraising proposals; and wrote position papers and research
    articles.

    During this period, Bennett also headed the Climate Action Network, an
    association of up to 100 environmental, health, labour and faith
    organizations from 10 provinces and two territories. There, he was
    also the chief spokesperson, wrote releases and papers, and acted as
    liaison with government officials, ministers, MPs, their staffs and
    industry leaders. He did similar work with a successor organization,
    ClimateforChange.ca.

    It was then that he was involved in preparing reporters for the
    federal Conservative government's climate plan. "I figured we had to
    talk to the media. We had to meet the government head-on, and say what
    they were doing was going backward. We were very effective."

    The work "succeeded to the extent that when Stéphane Dion became
    Liberal leader, the party thought the climate and environment were
    where they should campaign. They were right; they just did it very
    badly."

    A spirit of collaboration

    Most recently, Bennett was communications director for the Green Party
    of Canada, including the 2008 campaign in which the Greens, led by
    May, won nearly a million votes and was the only party to increase its
    total.

    "It's a well-rounded background, ranging from activist events to
    negotiating in the halls of power," Bennett says. "My knowledge covers
    the spectrum of issues across the country."

    Bennett's experience has demonstrated the importance of collaborating
    with other groups and including as many people as possible, and their
    ideas, in whatever work must be done. That was especially obvious in
    the creation of the Green Budget Coalition, which analyzed federal
    budgets in terms of their impact on environmental concerns.


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: David Amos
    To: Fry.H@parl.gc.ca ; Emerson.D@parl.gc.ca ; Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca ;
    letters@proislam.com ; Cummins.J@parl.gc.ca ; Canada@cair-net.org ;
    dcr618@msn.com ; madd_professor@cox.net ; Iolmisha@cs.com ;
    derrickcrobinson@gmail.com ; khr909@hotmail.com ; erniemusic2@yahoo.com ;
    kevin_annett@hotmail.com ; radical@radicalpress.com ; thespur@hotmail.com ;
    lisah@whooshnet.com ; dougchristie@shaw.ca ; lawald@web.net ;
    wickedwanda3@adelphia.net ; fbinhct@leo.gov ; info@afi-international.com ;
    wgoss@smss.com ; landrews@smss.com ; jcrosbie@coxandpalmer.com ;
    rgfaloon@coxandpalmer.com ; dhashey@coxandpalmer.com ; smay@coxandpalmer.com
    ; kmccullogh@smss.com ; gpetrie@smss.com ; orakwa@paulcomm.ca ;
    Kahentinetha2@yahoo.com ; katenies20@yahoo.com ; media@cupw-sttp.org
    Cc: ceri@shaw.ca ; deanr0032@hotmail.com ; info@politicswatch.com ;
    Flaherty.J@parl.gc.ca ; Baird.J@parl.gc.ca ; Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca ;
    McGuinty.D@parl.gc.ca ; Dhalla.R@parl.gc.ca ; Casey.B@parl.gc.ca ;
    Leblanc.D@parl.gc.ca ; Holland.M@parl.gc.ca ; Hubbard.C@parl.gc.ca ;
    Martin.Pat@parl.gc.ca ; Guergis.H@parl.gc.ca ; Mark.I@parl.gc.ca ;
    Turner.G@parl.gc.ca ; Chong.M@parl.gc.ca ; Comuzzi.J@parl.gc.ca ;
    warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; John.Foran@gnb.ca
    Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:15 PM
    Subject: RE;Budget votes and more War its the same old same old If you
    forgot scroll down


    I just talked to Paul Dewar's office for the last time.and spoke to Jamesey
    Baby once again. He to me to go for it and sue the Crown I told him I willl
    also sue him and his chickenshit boss too or my name ain't "Just Dave".
    reveiw his Bullshit and start lining up lawyers.

    "Katter, Robert (MP)"<Bob.Katter.MP@aph.gov.au> wrote:

    Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Portions of wiretap tapes to impeach
    George W. Bush and put a stop Harper's motion tommorrow
    Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 02:18:35 +1000
    From: "Katter, Robert \(MP\)"<Bob.Katter.MP@aph.gov.au>
    To: "David Amos"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

    Thank you for your e-mail which will be forwarded to the appropriate staff
    member to deal with as soon as possible.
    The Kennedy electorate is a large electorate (about 2.5 times the size of
    the entire State of Victoria) with almost 150,000 residents, over 120
    schools and over 140 localities all with various service and sporting clubs.
    For this reason we receive quite a large volume of faxes, letters, e-mails
    and phone calls each day and while our staff aim for a 7-day turnaround in
    correspondence - unfortunately this is not always possible.  However, if you
    have not heard back from anyone at the office within 7-14 days, please
    telephone the office on the numbers listed below.
    If the matter is urgent please phone 1800 810 519, or if you are not in the
    electorate, 07 4061 6066.
    To save disappointment we should advise that correspondence from outside the
    electorate is not given the priority that correspondence within the
    electorate is given.
    That said, many thanks for your message, and we will endeavour to get back
    to you as soon as possible.
    Hon Bob Katter MP
    Member for Kennedy
    Innisfail Office:  Cnr Edith & Owen Sts PO Box 1638 Innisfail FNQ 4860 Ph 07
    4061 6066 Fx 07 4061 6566
    Mt Isa Office:  52 Miles St Mt Isa NWQ 4825 PO Box 2130 Mt Isa NWQ 4825 Ph
    07 4743 3534 Fx 07 4743 0189
    Parliament House (Sitting weeks only) Ph 02 6277 4978  Fx 02 6277 8558
    Toll Free Number: 1800 810 519

    "Roy, Bruno (Patterson Palmer NB)"<broy@pattersonpalmer.ca> wrote:

    Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Stevey Boy Harper and Malicious Mikey
    Ignatieff ain't fishing on Brokeback Mountian EH? Here is why
    Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 10:52:58 -0300
    From: "Roy, Bruno \(Patterson Palmer NB\)"<broy@pattersonpalmer.ca>
    To: "David Amos"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

    I will be out of the office until May 23rd. Should you need any assistance,
    please call my assistant Doris at 856-9800.

    Je serai hors du bureau jusqu'au 23 mai. Si vous avez des questions, vous
    pouvez rejoindre mon adjointe Doris au 856-9800.



    "Dewar, Paul - M.P."<Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca> wrote:
      Subject: RE: Portions of wiretap tapes to impeach George W. Bush and put a
    stop Harper's motion tommorrow
      Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:49:47 -0400
      From: "Dewar, Paul - M.P."<Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca>
      To: "David Amos"<motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com>


      Hi David. My name is James and I have been asked to send this message onto
    you from Paul...

      Dear Mr. Amos,

      Thank you for informing me of your concerns regarding Canada's role in
    Afghanistan after February 2007.

      The NDP voted against this motion because we believe it is the wrong
    mission for Canada. It does not reflect the peace-making values that
    Canadians want to see our forces undertake on the world stage. This forced
    motion essentially ties our aid and development funds to war-making, and we
    cannot support that.

      It is quite clear that Harper's Conservatives aren't interested in due
    diligence. They're interested in dragging us further into a US-style combat
    role and away from our traditional peace keeping role. Much like the
    Liberals before them, the Conservatives have failed to tell Canadians:

      - What the chain of command and control will be for this mission.
      - What the definition of success will be for our troops.
      - What our exit strategy will be.

      Many Canadians have written me wanting answers and it is our duty as
    representatives of our constituents, to get answers before committing to any
    new missions overseas. As any soldier knows, time spent on reconnaissance is
    never wasted.

      New Democrats recognize that Canada does have a role in assisting Afghanis
    in rebuilding their country. Afghanistan is the largest recipient of
    Canadian overseas development aid and we fully support the continuation of
    that funding - outside of this mission.

      Thank you again for the time and effort you have taken to share your
    thoughts with me, and for bringing your opinion on this matter to my
    attention.

      Sincerely,



      Paul Dewar, MP Ottawa Centre



    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com]
      Sent: May 16, 2006 8:13 PM
      To: Allen, Mike - M.P.; rcastrocalvo@yahoo.com; irislana@hotmail.com;
    Angus, Charlie - M.P.; Atamanenko, Alex - M.P.; Bell, Catherine - M.P.;
    Bevington, Dennis - M.P.; Black, Dawn - M.P.; Blaikie, Bill - M.P.;
    Charlton, Chris - M.P.; Chow, Olivia - M.P.; Christopherson, David - M.P.;
    Comartin, Joe - M.P.; Crowder, Jean - M.P.; Cullen, Nathan - M.P.; Davies,
    Libby - M.P.; Dewar, Paul - M.P.; Julian, Peter - M.P.; Marston, Wayne -
    M.P.; Martin, Pat D. - M.P.; Martin, Tony - M.P.; Masse, Brian - M.P.;
    Mathyssen, Irene - M.P.; Nash, Peggy - M.P.; Priddy, Penny - M.P.; Savoie,
    Denise - M.P.; Siksay, Bill - M.P.; Wasylycia-Leis, Judy - M.P.; Emerson,
    David - M.P.
      Cc: Simms, Scott - M.P.; Russell, Todd - M.P.; Manning, Fabian - M.P.;
    Hearn, Loyola - M.P.; Doyle, Norman - M.P.; Byrne, Gerry - M.P.; McGuire,
    Joe - M.P.; MacAulay, Lawrence - M.P.; D'Amours, Jean-Claude - M.P.;
    Hubbard, Charles - M.P.; Murphy, Brian - M.P.; Thibault, Robert - M.P.;
    Savage, Michael - M.P.; Regan, Geoff - M.P.; Keddy, Gerald - M.P.; Eyking,
    Mark - M.P.; Cuzner, Rodger - M.P.; Brison, Scott - M.P.
      Subject: Portions of wiretap tapes to impeach George W. Bush and put a
    stop Harper's motion tommorrow


      Hey
              Before all the Parliamentarians argue and then vote to support
    further Canadian deaths in one of George W. Bush's Wars for Global Control
    for the benefit of his corporate cohorts perhaps, you should at least listen
    to the attachments if you do not wish to bother to read what Billy Casey and
    the Bankers got on May 12th. If I can assist in preventing the demise of
    just one more Canadian warrior in a malicious foreign war, all of my work
    will have been worth it EH?
               If everyone ignores me as usual, I will not be surprised. At
    least I will sleep well with my conscience tonight because I know I have
    done my very best to stop the nonsense since early 2002 long before the War
    in Iraq began. None of you deserve to sleep well at all because you all
    supported Harper's orders to send our people to war even before the 39th
    Parliament sat this year. As far as I am concerned the blood of four very
    honourable soldiers can be found on your hands. Shame on all of you for not
    even bothering to honour our dead by lowering the flag on the Peacetower. As
    long as I have been aware and could consider myself a Proad Canadian, I
    thought we were peacekeepers rather than poorly paid hired guns for crooked
    corporations, corrupt politicians and their wicked Yankee bible pounding
    buddies.
                                                                Veritas Vincit
                                                                       David
    Raymond Amos


      FEDERAL EXPRESS February 7, 2006

      Senator Arlen Specter
      United States Senate
      Committee on the Judiciary
      224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
      Washington, DC 20510

      Dear Mr. Specter:

      I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man named,
    David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters raised in the
    attached letter. Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI
    wire tap tapes. I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this
    previously.

      Very truly yours,
      Barry A. Bachrach
      Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
      Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
      Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com


            Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 00:00:53 -0700 (PDT)
            From: "David Amos"<motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com>
            Subject: Jumping Jimmy Flaherty's jump boots versus Crosbie's old
    mukluks in a liberal Senate
            To: Grant.GARNEAU@gnb.ca, Russell_Feingold@feingold.senate.gov,
    duffy@ctv.ca, tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com,
    Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us, Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us,
    Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us, Kandalaw@mindspring.com, kmdickson@comcast.net,
    trvl@hotmail.com, patrick.fitzgerald@usdoj.gov, fbinhct@leo.gov,
    oldmaison@yahoo.com, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, michael.malley@gnb.ca,
    EGreenspan@144king.com, josie.maguire@dfait-maeci.gc.ca,
    alicia.mcdonnell@state.ma.us, info@pco-bcp.gc.ca, ted.tax@justice.gc.ca,
    Cotler.I@parl.gc.ca, racing.commission@state.ma.us, dwatch@web.net,
    freeman.c@parl.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, graham.b@parl.gc.ca,
    arthur.a@parl.gc.ca
            CC: nwnews@cknw.com, davidamos@bsn1.net, BBACHRACH@bowditch.com,
    david.allgood@rbc.com, mackay.p@parl.gc.ca, stronach.b@parl.gc.ca,
    moore.r@parl.gc.ca, thompson.g@parl.gc.ca, toews.v@parl.gc.ca,
    day.s@parl.gc.ca, casey.b@parl.gc.ca, mlevine@goodmans.ca, brae@goodmans.ca,
    steve.moate@utoronto.ca, sarah.mann@rci.rogers.com, rep@karenyarbrough.com,
    dc@thepen.us, paul.neuman@asm.ca.gov, info@afterdowningstreet.org,
    gearpigs@hotmail.com, alltrue@nl.rogers.com, Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca

       Deja Vu Anyone? Anyone?
      That's what John Crosbie wore in 1979, the last time a budget brought down
    a Canadian government in a minority-Parliament situation. It proved to be a
    bad omen, given that the Conservative government of the day foundered on
    Crosbie's document.
      The mukluks proved to be















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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-nb-death-long-term-care-1.5611120



    Resident at long-term care facility dies from COVID-19, province announces 3 new cases

    Death is the second in New Brunswick related to virus


    Sarah Morin· CBC News· Posted: Jun 13, 2020 2:21 PM AT



    Another resident at Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville has has died from complications related to COVID-19. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)

    Another resident at a long-term care facility near Campbellton, N.B., has died from complications related to COVID-19, Public Health announced Saturday.

    The individual, a resident of the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville, was in their 80s. The person is the second in New Brunswick to die from the virus.

    "I was deeply saddened to learn of a death related to COVID-19 in our province," Premier Blaine Higgs said in a news release.

    The news release does not confirm the identity of the person who died, but said the individual had been admitted to hospital.

    Public Health also reported three new cases of the disease in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, on Saturday.

    The three new cases include two health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and an employee at Manoir de la Vallée.

    Their ages of the three new cases are as follows:
    • An individual in their 20s
    • An individual in their 30s 
    • An individual in their 50s
    A cluster of cases in the Campbellton region surfaced in mid-May, after a doctor travelled to Quebec and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.

    There are 29 active cases in the province. Four people are hospitalized and one person is in intensive care.


    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, offered condolences to the family and friends of the second person to die from COVID-19 in the province. (Government of New Brunswick)

    Many of the cases are linked to Manoir de la Vallée.

    To date, 36,605 tests have been conducted. Of the 157 confirmed cases, 126 people have recovered from the virus.

    Campbellton Regional Hospital closes ER

    The Vitalité Health Network announced its emergency room is closing effective 8 p.m. until further notice.

    Visits to the Campbellton Regional Hospital are also now prohibited, and all non-emergency services offered by the facility are cancelled until further notice.

    "The Network has no choice but to take these measures immediately given the evolution of the spread of COVID-19 in Region 5," Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of the network, said in a press release sent out on Saturday.

    Emergency services at the hospital are still open, but people with "mild symptoms" are being asked to contact their family physician, nurse practitioner or Tele-Care 811 before going to the emergency department.

    What to do if you have symptoms

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.

    Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

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    132 Comments




    David Amos
    Methinks the RCMP members who do receive my emails should agree that the desperate spin doctors who tap on their keyboards night and day supporting Higgy's Police State post too much N'esy Pas? 


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: Awww the big bad bully from Fundy Royal cant take a little of his own medicine... methinks


    David Amos 
    Reply to @David Amos: here are some of the wannabe constable's words tonight:

    "How's Byron making out buddy he see any justice at the hands of Just Dave?"

    Methinks this dude is one of the tr o lls who has been cyberstalking my family and I since I ran in Fundy Royal in 2004 and then wrote Bryon Prior's defense and counterclaim for the Supreme Court of Newfoundland in January of 2005 N'esy pas?


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: Not even close.


    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the boss of the RCMP in the Fundy Royal Area since 2015 who took a promotion and a transfer back out west in lieu of retiring is well are that most Maritimers are in bed or finishing their last Saturday night beers on a nice evening in June rather than wasting their precious time posting mindless vitriol on the web about Byron Prior and I. However Inspector Morgan must admit its still early in Alberta and BC for the RCMP shills Ray and Durnford and everybody knows they live on the Internet 24/7 Anyone can Goggle their names and mine N'esy Pas?


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: Tha " Dave whiner line " . Home of the Tony's and James and Joe's and Paul's ! the conspiracy theorists and their unfounded , uninformed , and ignorant rants from social media experts with no education no honest facts , just anything they can grab off the other uneducated experts .


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @David Amos: Just tap Dave and " Fiction " or " UFO " !
    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: All your emails are blocked or go to the spam bin. Why do you need to give the history lessons when attaching hotshot lawyers or cops names as if you're on a personal level with them? Is that part of your condition?
     

    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: I'd say Dave'll be here till the " cows come home " but apparently the cows are " on a planet , far , far away ," and not sure when Scotty's gonna beam them back down to planet earth !


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if folks truly wish to giggle they should tap in Lou Bell Higgy Cardy butter tarts N'esy Pas? 
     

    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks when the cows do come perhaps you should ask them to tap Tim Hortons Hampton RCMP so they can get a good laugh at your malicious nonsense last night N'esy Pas? 


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Huh ? 


    Ray Oliver
    Hes trying to intimidate you as he saves all these back and forths on his blog for his future cases hes busy building in some guy near Frederictons tool shed. Booooo 


    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its fairly obvious that your desperate buddy "Ray' ain't got the first clue where I am but your hero Higgy's buddies in the RCMP in Hampton and Sussex certainly do N'esy Pas?
    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: You sniff an election coming up so must be hunting for some new digs in the Fundy Royal riding for a magical run to the Legislature. Will they let you in the building if you win ya think?
    Lou Bell  
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: not sure what he's talking about with Hampton . I did read in the Newspaper the other day where Minister Cardy indicated there were unsigned messages of advice left for him in an aquaintenances mailbox though ! Kinda lacks intestinal fortitude I'd think , not only to not sign them , but also to not just deliver them to who they're intended for .
    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: However trust I will return to Fat Fred City to file 3 more lawsuits when the time is just right. Methinks any old mechanic would agree there is magic in good timing N'esy Pas?
    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Its the Famous Amos butter tart recipe his clan has had tucked away for centuries..
    Lou Bell  
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: A win would be getting at least 15 votes ! Let's see , there's Tony and James , and Paul , and Joe. Might be one or two more , but that's it 
    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: Move over Colonel Sanders , Private Butter Tarts is a comin' !
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its clear that you don't have the first clue as who I am do ya but I trust that your lawyer does N'esy Pas?
    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Well give him a touch of credit he placed better than the candidate who ran on a knot sea platform last showdown.. movin on up! Rob Moore watch ya back!!
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: "Private Butter Tarts is a comin"

    Methinks you have it backwards on purpose it was Cardy and his buddies who sent me the butter tarts in the Canada Post before the election in 2018 and I posted the signed note and his emails about it on the Internet before i ran in Sussex against Northrup. The RCMP and everybody else knows that N'esy Pas?
    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: And now you're sending along your own recipe cause their tarts just weren't satisfactory. That's mighty neighborly of ya!
    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP must have noticed that I am not feeding their tr o ll this evening N'esy Pas?
    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @David Amos So that's the " Butter tarts " story ! : I never got Butter tarts ! Ray , did you get Butter Tarts ? Ray and I should be the ones complaining if that's the case ! Of course I wouldn't have seen it on social media . I don't believe in that false crap ! People need to stay away from that stuff. Conspiracy theorists abound on those websites ! Tweety uses them in America and we all know about him .
    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks thats your problem not mine N'esy Pas? 
     

    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: If the Liberals had gotten in I would have gotten a 130 Million Dollar bill for some " Phonie Games " ! And NO Butter Tarts to boot !


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if you had bothered to check my Twitter account long ago you would have discovered that I have making you rather infamous simply byway of republishing you words within the blog your buddy "Ray" (likely Dean Roger Ray or his buddy Dan Durnford ) is harping about tonight N'esy Pas? 
     

    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: I live in your beloved Fundy Royal riding. You aren't doing much to win my vote next time around methinks


























    David Amos
    Methinks all the usual suspects who argue every issue within the Crown's forum 24/7 should consider investigating matters for themselves instead of attacking folks trying to inform them of what they know about Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: You dig to the heart of what's really going on. You've got the inside track. More importance and respect in your pinky toe that the rest of us EH??


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: You're a heckling spammer who's been told to cease and desist on a daily basis 
     

    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: David is a great contributor in a democracy. Refreshing to read his logical views.


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Check his blog where hes gonna do some light bounty hunting for Whitey Bulger. Or his cows being killed by laser beams. Or his wire tap tapes he found in an FBI dumpster that could take down a sitting president. LOGICAL. LOL.

    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: methinks you have had a few to many cold ones this evening

    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Its all there for anyone to read. I wish I was joking. 
     

    David Amos
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks rather obvious that if your buddy "Ray" truly thought I was you he would not have spent all day arguing you about a virus N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: No when someone makes a ridiculous point I feel I can chime in. Again.. this isnt all about you big shooter


    David Amos
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: How much do you know about what your buddy "Ray" is referring to?

    "Check his blog where hes gonna do some light bounty hunting for Whitey Bulger. Or his cows being killed by laser beams. Or his wire tap tapes he found in an FBI dumpster that could take down a sitting president. LOGICAL. LOL."


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Do you even know who Byron Prior is??? 
     

    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: Didnt an officer say he spotted Bulger in Nfld? Yet he had been living in California in the same condo for 16 years. Can you get any further from Nfld in North America than that? Alaska maybe? LOL. Bounty Hunter what a good laugh. You know it's illegal in Canada right? 


    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP in Alberta should do a wellness check on their shill Dean Roger Ray N'esy Pas? 


    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP in BC should also pay a visit on Bryon Prior's other buddy Dana Durnford as well N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks that anyone can read your blog pull out the goodies then fire it out here. Anyone can do this the way you refer people to it.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Can't stop laughing ! You and Dave !!!


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks i have the right to say the same about you and your buddy "Ray" N'esy Pas? 
     

    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: CRY ME A RIVER. Sound familiar famous amos the bounty Hunter extraordinaire??


    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its interesting that you claim to not follow "social media" but claimed something else to another dude yesterday N'esy Pas?

    Reply to @Matt Steele: Dave has a social media fan I see ! A couple , you and Terry .




















    A G
    Content disabled
    Has the doctor who started this cluster been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter yet?


    David Amos 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @A G: WOW

























    James Smythe
    Here are your CDC statistics from the US (population 330 million), where I'm sure we can all agree handled Covid much worse than we did in Canada, breaking down mortality per age group, current as of June 6, 2020: (2.11 million cases to date)

    mortality as % of positive case #
    Under 1 year old: 5 0.000237
    1 - 4: 3 0.000142
    5-14: 13 0.000616
    15-24: 116 0.005498
    25-34: 640 0.0303
    35-44: 1649 0.782
    45-54: 4588 0.217
    55-64: 11,439 0.542
    65-74: 19,857 0.941
    75-84: 25,520 1.21
    85+: 31,778 1.51

    What you may notice from the data set, is that older people are more likely to pass away. And this holds true for natural causes, and all other infectious diseases. You can all calm down now. We've handled it better in Canada, your risk is likely lower than the chart presented. Can't wait for all the confirmation bias displays below this comment.


    Bob Smith
    Reply to @James Smythe: Uh huh...how's that data for vaccinations for the Covid virus? Oh, right, none. I know that anyone treating this as serious is a waste of time when talking to folks like you so I'll ignore you from now on.

    Richard Cyr
    Reply to @James Smythe:
    +10 likes for crushing their illusions.

    David Amos
    Reply to @James Smythe: Well done 
     

    Lou Bell
    Reply to @James Smythe: Your uninformed figures say nothing about those who will suffer from the long term affects of having COVID. All you have is the deaths , not including what is speculated to be thousands more who died and are now suspected to have had COVID ! You're the expert , tell us how many who had the virus and are now being revealed as having damage done to multiple organs ! C'mon Jimmy tell us !!!





























    Paul Milner
    This headline is so misleading. 80 and 90 year old are not dying of CV. They are dying of old age/ complications. CV is the straw that broke the camel's back, that's all. All these ridiculous headlines do is stoke irrational fear. Comorbidity should be reported as its own statistic. Meanwhile in NB over 3000 people have died of other causes this year.




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    Justin Time
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Any of the websites reporting Covid statistics will show you the 8.1% death rate for known cases. The other numbers on age expectancy come from another news article on CBC. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid19-elderly-deaths-1.5542967


    David Amos
    Reply to @Justin Time: Do you believe everything CBC tells you?


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: Why comment and play on their news page if you don't read it for current pertinent Provincial information? Methinks you just here to pump your own tires as a great politician and legal beagle!!! 

     
    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: methinks you’re jealous


    Fay Briggs 
    Reply to @Jackie Barret Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell have nothing to apologize for they did not release the persons name. They just said it was a health care worker at the hospital. Social media and CBC decided it was Ngola. They are the ones who need to apologize to this man.

    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Hes a couch surfing user who plays helping the downtrodden for a place to stay and mooch off of. How's Byron making out buddy he see any justice at the hands of Just Dave?

    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Far from jealous if you see the spamming and CCs on emails he fires around annoying people who could care less about the nonsense. I feel hes jealous of them as he will soon be totally forgotten 
     

    Tom Campbell
    Reply to @Paul Milner: Without the restrictive measures, the numbers would have been much higher. Everyone should knot this by now.


    Tom Campbell 
    Reply to @Denis LeBlanc: Couldn't agree more. These posters have been hammering these repetitive posts out for over 3 months even though there is evidence to the contrary in numerous countries. 
     

    Tom Campbell
    Reply to @Fred Brewer: That's the case in Hamilton.





























    Bob Smith
    A few days ago, there were several comments saying, among other things, that Covid was only contracted by the elderly or already sick. Sad to see an article like this which shows otherwise. I hope this pandemic doesn't lead to more deaths in NB.


    JoeBrown 
    Reply to @Bob Smith: Whoever you reference was likely just playing with you. Irrelevant.


    Bob Smith
    Reply to @JoeBrown: No, they were quite serious in a "know it all" way.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Bob Smith: Methinks that is an understatement N'esy Pas?


























    Lou Bell
    Very disturbing are the continuing cases with the Healthcare workers at the Hospital . May need to be addressed by Vitalite' . Their " different strokes for different folks " re Locums appears to be not working .


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Proof that the continuing cases at the hospital are due to in-coming locums vs infections already existing in Zone 5 = ?


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Could be . the big concern is that so far it's only been hospital staff . What happens when it gets to the patients . Also , how is the virus spreading amongst the patients in the long term care homes ? Person to person or is there any possibility it can be spread through the ventilation system ? Not sure if the home would have one or not .


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: home , not homes .


    JoeBrown 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Dementia patients are hard to keep safe because they don`t remember or understand anything. Lots of people in there have dementia and an earlier death had it so that might be why it is spreading. Most n homes in Canada that got an outbreak ended up with more and even lots of cases, fwiw.


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @JoeBrown: and why are we shutting down the economy for these people is not logical


    JoeBrown  
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: More cerb per capita in NB. Higgs has highest popularity so most people must like being broke or do not understand.


    JoeBrown  
    Reply to @Lou Bell: NS first case in 4 days at Norwood again. Half of them must be immune now but it is a big place and covid never stops.


    JoeBrown  
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Yeah, NS got another case in Norwood today, so those places are inevitable covid magnets but it is a different world outside and the shut down should end.


    Paul Milner
    Reply to @JoeBrown: You're spot on. How did we fall this far?


    doug kirby 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: have no idea why other than to force nb broke obviously...now the man is allowing Quebec in to travel which by the way is the correct thing to do ....however what is interesting to many people now is could the list be posted as to who higgs thinks is more important than the next and where is it written he has a say....there is more wrong than right happening now with this virus...unfortunately it got into a long term home and so sorry to hear but it will be contained and you will learn to live with this but my god people wake up....you seriously don’t have to be dictated to especially by a man who believes he is the prime minister or something.


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: You and I have the luxury of being able to feed ourselves, dress ourselves, bath ourselves and relieve ourselves without close contact from care workers. People in long-term care homes, not so much. I'm sure that staff are masking, gloving, sanitizing and doing as much as they can do to avoid the spread of infection. But nothing works 100%. The fact remains that every time a staff member tests positive, all the residents who were cared for by that worker are at risk. Every time a resident tests positive, all the workers who cared for that resident are at risk.


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @doug kirby: "especially by a man who believes he is the prime minister or something" - I've never seen Higgs attempting to exercise control over the federal government, as the prime minister does. As premier - the prime minister's provincial counterpart - he has both the right and the responsibility to exercise control over the province, acting within the guidelines of provincial and federal law.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should take a break and come on down sip coffee with Higgy's buddies at Timmies in Fundy Royal the RCMP won't bother you N'esy Pas?


    David Amos
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you should never forget that your hero Higgy asked his buddies the RCMP to put down their donuts and investigate what when down up north N'esy Pas?


    doug kirby 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: exactly guidelines....he should follow them 
     

    JoeBrown
    Reply to @Paul Milner: Easy to spread in homes, because virus is invisible and dementia patients are hard to take care of. They don't understand anything but need to be fed, get sick, make messes, won't stay still, some yell all the time, and need to be washed etc.























    Lou Bell
    So sad and so avoidable .


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: how avoidable? This virus been around for months. Government isn’t protecting taxpayers


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: If you understood the rules and how they work , someone broke the rules and this all happened ! Has been in the news for a month ! Pay attention .


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Lou Bell: no way 1 person infected that many, impossible


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Nfld? A couple months back? Where you been?


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: And 1 person can give it to 8.. those 8 take it home to their family and friends.. it becomes exponential. It all starts with 1 to cause a flurry of cases again in any area


    Bob Smith
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Newfoundland funeral...Nova Scotia and the Northwood home. Quebec's disastrous decision to reopen schools during the pandemic. Want more examples?


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: can’t blame 1 for infecting all


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: If the virus is known to have been under control and someone who breaks the known rules is the reason it revives again.. then yeah. I sure can. Be in the bridge protest or one whiny doctor


    Fred Brewer
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Have you not heard of the term "super spreader"?
    In essence when the doctor saw 150 patients and interacted with hospital staff, shopped for groceries and did his errands while he was infected, he became NB's first super spreader.


    Justin Time 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Wrong. Catch up on the news. There are super spreaders and just remember one infected person started this whole thing.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks you must understand the wannabe constable's wicked little game by now N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: A game you'll never win Methinks. Sorry. Me knows!


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: Why you responding to yourself on here? Can't you have that "wicked" little chat with Tony right in your own head? Or is it a packed house up there tonight? 
     

    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: you should know by now you’re wrong


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Hiii Dave. Dont make it so obvious. Rub those 2 clues together try to run some different lingo. Not a soul would defend the guy.


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: You haven't been on as long as I've been calling out the "fierce political animal" as he calls himself. Yet you know so much. Hmmmm. Not hard to figure that out Dave Amos 2.0


    David Amos
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: "you should know by now you’re wrong"

    Methinks you should finally explain to me why you have allowed my political foes to falsely claim that I am you for so long N'esy Pas?




    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-virus-pandemic-roundup-1.5609379



    N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province confirms new case at Campbellton hospital

    The new case involves a health-care worker in their 40s who works at the hospital


    Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jun 12, 2020 12:45 PM AT



    Public Health has confirmed one new case of COVID-19, a health-care worker at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

    Public Health has confirmed one new case of COVID-19 at the Campbellton Regional Hospital after announcing two health-care workers tested positive for the virus on Thursday.

    The new case is an individual in their 40s, who is also a health-care worker at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. Vitatlié Health Network confirmed a health-care worker at the hospital was diagnosed with the virus on Wednesday.

    "When outbreaks occur, it reminds us that we need to continue our efforts to prevent the spread of COVID-19," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health in a news release.

    "We need to maintain physical distancing and practise good hygiene everywhere we go to avoid new outbreaks. We can be kind and continue to support each other through this pandemic."

    28 active cases of COVID-19

    There are 28 active cases in the province.

    The first in a cluster of cases was reported May 21 in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, after a doctor travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area. Many of the cases have been found at Manoir de la Vallée, a long-term care facility in Atholville.


    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, is reminding residents to wash their hands and continue physically distancing themselves from others. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)

    One resident of the Manoir has died. Five people from the region are in hospital, one of them in intensive care.

    There have been 154 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, with 125 who have recovered from the respiratory illness.

    As of Friday, 36,125 tests have been conducted.


    There could be more unknown cases lurking, epidemiologist says

    An epidemiologist is warning New Brunswickers that there might be more cases of COVID-19 across the province.

    The province has seen a cluster of new cases of the respiratory illness over the past two weeks in the Campbellton region, but Dr. Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto, said some people could be asymptomatic or only have a minor case of the virus.

    "It would surprise me if we tested everyone in New Brunswick right now if we got zero positive cases," said Furness.

    "Even if somehow there's zero circulating COVID we have to remember it's only a car ride or a plane ride away from a new case landing in the community and that's the new normal for a little while."


    Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto, says there are likely more cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. We just don't know about them. (University of Toronto)

    Furness is warning New Brunswickers not to be cavalier about the COVID-19 virus, even if it looks like the outbreak is waning.

    "COVID isn't gone, it's in the background," he said.



    "And if we let it, it will come back. And it will come roaring back. And that's something that we're going to be coping with for some time."
    Furness recommends maintaining physical distancing and wearing masks while out in public, even advocating for making them mandatory for stores.


    This Fredericton entrepreneur from Dubai knew she’d have to shift her hijab business’s plan in order to survive the pandemic, so she started selling face masks. 2:26

    "My gut tells me that masks will prove to be important," he said, "And just by way of reminder, they're important because they help you keep your droplets to yourself so that you protect others and that others wearing masks protects you."

    Last week the province announced that masks would be mandatory in all indoor public environments, before backtracking on the decision within 24 hours.

    Furness said early studies have indicated that the virus is acting similar to other coronaviruses, meaning that there will likely be a lull of cases during the summer months.

    But that could also mean the potential of a second wave, which New Brunswickers will have to guard against.


    Furness says masks help people keep droplets to themselves during the COVID-19 era. (Elizabeth Fraser/CBC)

    "The good news is that even if we're not being disciplined we will have, I believe, pretty substantial protection this summer," said Furness.

    "The downside is that if we convince ourselves over the next three months that we've won and that we don't need to be vigilant we will set the conditions for a very vicious second wave in mid to late autumn."

    Furness said there are promising signs that a vaccine could be developed within two years, but cautions that you still need to manufacture about seven billion doses.
    In the meantime, governments will have to balance between implementing too many restrictions, which could lead to people not following any, and implementing too few, which could open us up for even more cases.

    Furness is also hopeful Ottawa will keep the Canada-U.S. border closed in coming months.

    "I think come the fall it's going to get awful," he said. "And I think this is going to be easily the largest loss of life in American history."

    What to do if you have symptoms

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.

    Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

    About the Author



    Elizabeth Fraser
    Reporter/Editor
    Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca
    With files from Jordan Gill

    CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices





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    Lou Bell
    Conspiracy theorists in full swing tonight ! RCMP goin' after Timmie coffee drinkers ! Aliens , cows , UFO's ! Must be a full moon tonight !!!


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should say Hey to Higgy and the RCMP in Fundy Royal for me sometime soon N'esy Pas?



























    Dave Corbin
    Will the RCMP allow us to have our Tim Horton coffee sitting in our own truck in the parking lot now or is it just the Tim Horton's in Hampton that we are not allowed?


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: when and why is this happening?


    David Amos
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: RCMP dudes working for Higgy's Police State have threatened people at the Tim's Sussex too
      
    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @David Amos: what on earth laws are Tim’s coffee drinkers in own vehicles breaking ?


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ask Higgy and the RCMP


    Michel Forgeron
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: As I understand it, If it's a family member it's ok, ,but a non family member would have to be in the back seat, if you have a back seat. Re other Tim's stuff, in some places you're allowed inside, now can sit at a table etc., as long as you keep 6' distance.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Michel Forgeron: FYI They both were sitting alone in their vehicles


    JJ Carrier
    Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Some Tim's are requesting you stay six feet away from David Amos...Something about hot air with no substance or coherent presentation besides his own 'egobubble' that causes your TimBits to explode...


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @JJ Carrier: Just the smell of him alone will give ya that 6 feet. Can't manage a haircut in 20 years or soo showering is most likely a biweekly event at best!


    Justin Gunther 
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: Not surprising that the CBC is allowing egregious personal attacks against certain individuals. If I suggest that somebody might have an IQ below 150 I get instabanned for being mean.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Sure they have ! The same people needing ER service nightly at the Sussex ER !!! It's so busy ! Busier than at Tims !!!


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @David Amos: You're the guy spreading the GOSSIP ! You tell us


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: Most likely Timmies doen't like nefarious looking characters hangin' around their businesses and called the Police !


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Tell us what they threatened them with Dave ! Tell us who and exactly what was said . Or , most likely , another social media conspiracy theorist .


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Lou Bell: "Trust that I called them and they can't deny we spoke" will be his response. Oh the worldly advice he must yield. I should give him my #. You hang up first. No you hang up Davey!


    David Amos
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks anyone call Google Tim Hortons Hampton RCMP N'esy Pas? 
     

    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XoJJF7ImcM

    "I have an incredible update to the story of Walter Matheson. He's the Hampton, New Brunswick resident who was ticketed almost $300 by police for failure to comply with emergency measures in a Tim Hortons parking lot while he ate his muffin and finished his coffee, completely alone in his car."


    David Amos
    Reply to @JJ Carrier: Methinks its not surprising that a lot of your nasty friends use fake names but at least I know that you don't N'esy Pas?


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: "Tell us who and exactly what was said"

    Methinks even your nasty no-name buddy Ray or his MLA Mr Oliver can pick up their smart phones and say "Hey Google" then ask about the RCMP in Hampton and Mr Matheson N'esy Pas?














    James Smythe
    What about the Great Wave of Kanagawa? Why is nobody talking about that?!


    Evelyn Gaudreau
    Reply to @James Smythe: humour is a very subtle art... not all attempts succeed.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Evelyn Gaudreau: Methinks its hard to love a critic N'esy Pas?


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Some , not mentioning any names , have no clue about what they're criticizing , just wanna hear themselves complain .




























    JoeBrown
    "My gut tells me that masks will prove to be important," he said, "And just by way of reminder, they're important because they help you keep your droplets to yourself so that you protect others and that others wearing masks protects you."
    This is why the virus will never go away despite the fact this simple solution exists to cut spread. Most people don't care about others so won't mask up.


    June Arnott
    Reply to @JoeBrown: yup, selfish Canadians abound.


    David Amos
    Reply to @June Arnott: So you say


    Tristin Time 
    Reply to @June Arnott: So you think masks are the cure for this virus?


    JoeBrown
    Reply to @Tristin Time: If she did believe that, she would have said that.


























    Michael Guravich
    Hey, CBC, you need to separate yourselves from that lynch mob that wanted to crucify the doctor “that travelled to Quebec”. If you don’t know by now, there’s credible information that he may have had nothing to do with the recent Region 5 cluster. Get yourselves caught up and stop peddling that Higgs hysteria. There were lots of others going back and forth across that bridge, every day.


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: well said


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: There's a huge difference between participating in a "lynch mob" that wants to "crucify" someone - anyone - and holding people accountable for their actions. Whether or not the doctor was patient 0 is under investigation. It *is* known that he lied to border officials. And obviously he *did* have something to do with the Zone 5 cluster: he was one of the earliest cases involved in it. The use of inflammatory language, whether pro or con, does nothing to clarify the situation.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: His P.I. came up with a few " scenarios " that " could possibly have happened " ! It very may have been his child ! I believe he/ she was the 1st person announced ! And who was responsible for bringing her in from Quebec ? He lied to border officials and who knows all else that he did ! I'll trust those responsible for the contact tracing than some spin doctoring paid P.I. brought in to claim otherwise !


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Lou Bell: "I believe he/ she was the 1st person announced !" - We know that the first person announced was a child, both of whose parents were healthcare workers. I've never read a credible source stating that these parents were in fact the doctor and his wife. I'd respectfully suggest that this is the kind of speculation we need to put on hold while the investigation proceeds.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: As I said , I have faith in the contact tracing that was done by the Dept. of Health and they haven't said or done anything that would indicate there's anything different ! The only thing we've heard is his HIRED P.I. said there could be other scenarios. If it wasn't him I'd bet my money it was his child . Funny the P.I. made no mention of that !


    Filip Krynick 
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: "Ngola said he drove straight there and back with no stops and had no contact with anyone" now he's saying that people he came contact with in quebec are tested negative... so was it no contact or with contact.


    Chris Jones
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Why would you have faith / trust for people responsible for contact tracing, when it's clear they don' t have (or haven't released) any hard evidence. It's complete speculation at this point. There's been no charges laid to this point, which indicates they don't have the firm evidence to say it was the Dr in question.

    There's a reason why the justice system is "Innocent until proven guilty". There's certainly flaws within the court systems, but it's still a hell of a lot better than vigilantism rules and accusations.

    Monsieur Rioux
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: Could somebody clarify please. Was it not reported that after the second long period with no new cases, a child (with a connection to do different day cares) was a new live case and that the child's parents didn't understand how because they had taken all precautions.
    Were we not then told that a doctor had travelled outside the province, had misled the border officials and then failed to self isolate, followed by the revelation that the doctor was the child's father?
    While people have been unable to visit ill and dying relatives and even attend funerals LOCALLY, the child's mother saw fit to fly to another continent for a funeral with the doctor facilitating this action, potentially coming back into NB two people with the virus (he and child), with neither isolating.
    Am I remembering this incorrectly or was it reported this way but then retracted?
      
    Monsieur Rioux 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I believe it was eventually reported, a few days after the news about the doc surfaced, on these very pages that it was father and child.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: YUP


    Carlson MacKenzie  
    Reply to @Lou Bell: " I'll trust those responsible for the contact tracing than some spin doctoring paid P.I. brought in to claim otherwise !"

    You didn't include the keyboard cowboys who no doubt get their impressive knowledge from the flatulate wind that blows when they raise a leg slightly from their chair.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Oh My My


    Carlson MacKenzie 
    Reply to @David Amos: Look! There's one now!


    Graham MacNab 
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: What credible information? The info from the Private Investigator that he hired?


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Monsieur Rioux: According to Dr Ngola, as reported by the CBC June 2, he was contacted on May 25 and told that one of his patients had tested positive. He then had himself and his daughter tested. They too both tested positive. However, the first case of COVID in the outbreak, the case of a child who'd attended two different daycares, was reported May 21. Therefore this child was not the doctor's daughter, because she wasn't tested until the 25th or 26th (assuming that the doctor is telling the truth re: her testing date, but he'd be foolish to lie about something so easily verifiable). It *might* be that the child in the first case was another child of the doctor's, but I've never read this in any reliable source.


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Graham MacNab: If you read Dr Ngola's statements to the CBC closely, *all* that the PI found was that there are other possibilities to Dr Ngola being patient 0. Until these possibilities are investigated further, we simply don't know whether or not the doctor was patient 0. 
     

    Monsieur Rioux
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: When the child's positive test was announced, it came with "both parents are health care workers at the hospital" and then when it was announced that a health care worker at the hospital had previously been out of NB and back without isolating and had returned with his daughter, one didn't need to be too cynical to assume that the child was his.

    However, a key factor is that with each announced subsequent positive test and contact tracing in the early cases, before it took hold in the care home, it was stated that each person testing positive had contact with the person reported previously who had failed to isolate upon returning to the province.

    My newspaper and CTV have reported one child only in this batch of positive results.


    John Oliver
    Reply to @Monsieur Rioux: If you travel to Longueuil and then stop to discuss job opportunities in Trois-Rivieres. I am going to be skeptical that you are not the source of the infection. It would be best if his ex-wife could be tested, as well. The child is potentially patient zero, not the doctor. He travelled as late as May 16.

    The Campbellton COVID-19 cluster started when a child in the Campbellton region was diagnosed on May 21. Five days later, an individual in their 90s tested positive in the same zone. The next day, the province announced a person in their 50s had tested positive.

    During the week of May 10, he drove to the Montreal suburb of Longueuil to pick up his daughter after her mother had to leave the country for a family emergency. There, he said he limited his contacts to the 4-year-old and his brother, who had been caring for her.
    On his way back, he stopped in the city of Trois-Rivières to meet with two fellow physicians for a discussion about the pandemic and possible future work in Quebec. A private investigator hired by Mr. Ngola’s lawyer said the meeting took place in a local clinic for about 20 minutes.


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Monsieur Rioux: Serious accusations - let alone legal charges - should never be based on assumptions.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Graham MacNab: Methinks your heroes in the RCMP cannot deny that over a year ago I made Higgy et al well aware that the Private Eye and i have old business from way back when he was the boss of IMET Obviously that was long before he took this latest gig on behalf of a traveling doctor N'esy Pas?





    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-cases-campbellton-region-1.5608069


    N.B. COVID-19 roundup: 2 employees at Campbellton hospital test positive

    There are 29 active cases of the respiratory illness in New Brunswick


    Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jun 11, 2020 4:28 PM AT |



    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, has said there will be more cases of COVID-19 in the future and residents need to remain vigilant. (Government of New Brunswick)

    The province will extend its state of emergency for another two weeks after Public Health announced two new cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region Thursday.

    The new cases are two employees at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. One person is in their 30s and the other is in their 40s.

    "All of the stakeholders at the Campbellton Regional Hospital are mobilized to ensure that everything is in place to provide quality care and ensure the safety of patients and staff," said Gilles Lanteigne, chief executive officer of Vitalité Health Network.

    "Our processes are in place, our staff are trained and have the personal protective equipment they need to do their jobs. I am confident that we will get through these difficult times."
    Three people have recovered from COVID-19 in the Campbellton region, keeping the total number of active cases in New Brunswick at 29.

    Since March, there has been 153 cases of COVID-19 in the province, including one death.


    Two staff members at the Campbellton Regional Hospital have been diagnosed with COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

    "This is an evolving situation at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and everyone must watch for symptoms since COVID-19 is going to be with us for a long time," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health.

    As of Thursday, 35,753 tests have been conducted for the respiratory virus.

    Red Cross tries to help seniors feel less isolated

    The Red Cross is starting a program to help seniors feel less isolated during the COVID-19 outbreak.



    The Friendly Calls program will see isolated seniors matched with volunteers from the Red Cross.
    Volunteers will regularly call seniors to check in and talk. The goal is to reduce feelings of isolation in a group that is particularly at risk of COVID-19 and who might already have felt isolated.

    "It's just someone to talk to for those folks who have no one to talk to," said Bill Lawlor, provincial director of the Red Cross.
    "They don't have family around, at least in the Atlantic provinces. Or they don't have family at all. No one to provide that type of support."

    Seniors or their families can call the Red Cross and go through a short introductory interview to make sure they're a good fit for the program.

    After that, seniors are matched with a volunteer.



    "We find a volunteer who can meet the schedule, try to see if we can meet some similar personality traits as much as possible, and then we'll give it a trial run," said Lawlor.
    "If it continues to work well then they'll just carry on … if not, that's ok. We can switch out."


    Provincial Red Cross director Bill Lawlor said the new Red Cross program will help seniors feel less isolated during the COVID-19 pandemic. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

    While the goal of the program is to ease feelings of isolation, Lawlor said similar programs in the past have helped in other ways, such as detecting early stages of memory loss.

    "In the course of a conversation, you can start to pick up things that might suggest that someone is not feeling well, but they haven't made an appointment with their physician," said Lawlor.

    Lawlor doesn't have concrete numbers for how many volunteers are needed but is urging anyone interested to call the Red Cross.

    He also urges family and friends to talk to seniors about joining the program, particularly those who are shy



    "There's those folks who could really benefit from this interaction who you know they won't call," said Lawlor.
    "They don't feel they will benefit from it even though clearly they could."

    New Brunswickers encouraged to renew licences

    The province is urging people to renew licences, registrations, certificates and permits that had their expiration dates extended until the end of June due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Waiting until the end of June could cause delays, particularly for driver's licences, which take two weeks to process and be mailed out.

    The province said Service New Brunswick has been increasing the number of services it offers online and through Teleservices, especially for some of its most requested renewals, such as driver's licences.

    "Online and Teleservices are the most accessible, safe and convenient service methods," said Service New Brunswick Minister Sherry Wilson in a news release



    "Based upon the significant increase in these methods, we believe New Brunswickers are embracing them."
    Twelve centres offer in-person services, by appointment only, for things that cannot be completed online or through Teleservices.

    What to do if you have symptoms

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.

    Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

    About the Author



    Elizabeth Fraser
    Reporter/Editor
    Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca
    With files from Jordan Gill

    CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices




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    David Amos
    Methinks as the stock market go down again all the MLAs, bureaucrats, unions and teachers etc regret allowig Higgy to put their money into a shared risk pension plan but at least my fellow taxpayers should be grateful that we no longer have to make for their losses like Victor Boudreau did with his budget in 2009 N'esy Pas? 



    David Peters
    Reply to @David Amos:
    What's with NB Power sending so many ppl home at Pt Lepreau and Coleson Cove? Warehousing patronage appointments all of a sudden has become unsafe?









    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks the RCMP and their Fed bosses are beginning to figure out that Higgy cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone except Bruce Northrup N'esy Pas? 


    Terry Tibbs
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos:
    We shut our entire economy down, lost all of our jobs and put ourselves in astronomical amounts of debt for a “disease” that kills less people than daily life does.
    It's past time to get back to normal and let the cards fall as they might.










    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks the RCMP and Higgy et al will enjoy their email tomorrow N'esy Pas? 


    Ray Oliver
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks they've been blocked from you for many many years. No one cares.











    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Methinks a critic who does not obey the rules of this forum and have the sand to use a real name is even more annoying N'esy Pas?  


    Tony Mcalbey
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: big time annoying








    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?








    Joe Doe
    Cleaning up the trash

















    Roy Kirk
    How do his private investigators know that they identified all of his contacts in Quebec? What incentive did he have to identify every contact. Could he even remember every contact? And even if this is accurate, how does it excuse his failure to isolate after his trip?


    David Amos 
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    Reply to @Roy Kirk: Methinks as we watch the stock market nosedive again you can bet thin Canadian dimes to fat Yankee Petrodollars that today I called the former RCMP BOSS OF IMET who is the special investigator in this matter and the doctor's lawyer and asked them some tough questions before I sent them and Higgy et al another email N'esy Pas?




























    June Arnott
    Hang in there CAmpbelton , New Brunswickers Do care.


    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks if you had read another article or two about what going on up north you would understand that it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?





























    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?


    Joe Doe
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: N’est-ce pas offensive to NB citizen. So annoying.


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Joe Doe: Methinks a critic who does not obey the rules of this forum and have the sand to use a real name is eve more annoying N'esy Pas?





























    Albert Wade
    Flew to Florida earlier in the week. Just back in NB, what's this about a border closure.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Albert Wade: Exactly 
     

    Joe Doe
    Reply to @David Amos: yes. Great point. It begins.































    Peter Smith
    Decreasing, n'est pas? Erasing is fun.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Peter Smith: So you say 
     

    Joe Doe
    Reply to @David Amos: so I do.


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Joe Doe: You changed names again I see but you smell the same 


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: Nope I'm still here but your fan club is growing. You are such a mo r on.
























    Glen Roberts
    Guess the border being closed is not really working ...even with your new authoritarian government...


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
    Really? The truth is offensive now?


    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Truth hurts


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Glen Roberts:
    Well you see Glen, you close the border, then you invent reasons to let a select few in, than your buddy down the street needs TFWs, so you let them in too, so finally you end up with a border that is closed to only the law abiding taxpayers, but no one else.
























    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Higgy can’t deny that


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: My My Methinks its too bad so sad that so many nasty words go "Poof" before I can read them N'esy Pas?
     
    Peter Smith 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Your constant N'esy Pas is offensive.


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Peter Smith: Methinks you forgot to ask me if i cared what you think of me N'esy Pas?


    Peter Smith 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: I didn't care what you think. Just wanted you to know that you are offensive.


    Ray Oliver  
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you've got a real good idea on what I think of you by now EH. You are irrelevant in all areas of life. My guess is it's always been that way


    Peter Smith 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos:And I truly don't care if you care. Most people with Axis 2 disorders don't.


    Ray Oliver 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: I'm so glad you have spell check using your phone. Your grammar on your blog is barely literate. Shows your actual level of intelligence.


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Peter Smith: Methinks its not nice to make fun of Axis 2 disorders Hence you must be a Higgy supporter just like your buddy Oliver N'esy Pas? 


    Ray Oliver
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Nice? Your behavior on here to pester people has gotten you your own taste of it. It's not nice of me at all. Trust that it's fun though LOL!! 


























    Johnny Almar
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    But the good doctor wants an apology. He’s a victim. : /


    Ian Scott 
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    Reply to @Johnny Almar: He could well be. I doubt the 2 current workers got it from him. So the timelines, patient, and family exposure are key. No one knows what Momma's status is as she is out of country. Cross border traffic is perilous given know one seems to know what the close by Quebec communities that are supplying Campbeltown workers are doing.


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks its high time that your buddy Higgy suggests that you went "Poof: again N'esy Pas?


    SarahRose Werner 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Ian Scott: If the good doctor had nothing to hide, why didn't he come clean and tell the border officials that he'd been in Quebec for personal reasons? If they'd said he had to self-isolate and he didn't think he had to, he could have continued on home, called public health for clarification and then *done what public health told him to do.* If he'd done that, he would have been covered no matter whether new cases appeared or not. He's in a bad position right now because he got caught lying. He's a victim, all right - of his own poor judgement and dishonesty.
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    Methinks Higgy et al should not be surprised because I have been complaining about the actions of SNB in writing for 15 years or so N'esy Pas?


    https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/477-million-assessment-difference-in.html



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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/saint-john-assessment-francophone-community-centre-1.5611766


    $47.7 million assessment difference in francophone community centres irks Saint John leaders

    Differences in the valuation of the two institutions needs to be explained, says Saint John mayor


    Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Jun 15, 2020 7:00 AM AT



    Centre scolaire Samuel-de-Champlain in Saint John opened in 1985. Service New Brunswick values it for taxes at $22.8 million, less than one-third of the Fredericton centre it was modeled on. (Robert Jones/CBC)

    Suspicion in Saint John that Service New Brunswick undervalues properties in the city and causes the municipality to be shortchanged on tax revenue has civic leaders asking for more information about the assessment of the local francophone community centre.

    Centre scolaire-communautaire Samuel-de-Champlain on Saint John's north side is the heart of the city's francophone community. The 35-year old building is 58 per cent the size of  Fredericton's Centre communautaire Sainte-Anne, but the $47.7 million difference in how Service New Brunswick values the two for taxes has Saint John municipal leaders wanting more information on the assessments.

    "That stopped me dead in my tracks," said Coun. Donna Reardon about differences in the valuation of the two institutions.

    "I don't get it."


    Fredericton's Centre communautaire Sainte-Anne opened in 1978. It generates $1 million a year in property tax revenue for the city, based on its $70.5 million assessed value. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

    Saint John Mayor Don Darling said it would have to be explained to him how an institution in Fredericton less than double the size of a similar one in Saint John could be valued for taxes as being worth triple.

    "Shock is what I would say," Darling said in an interview last week.

    "I don't think you can hear numbers like that and not have a whole series of followup questions. We need to understand. There needs to be a clear explanation of how these numbers are arrived at."

    Samuel-de-Champlain opened in Saint John in 1985, seven years after Sainte-Anne. The two each sit on slightly more than 10 hectares of land in their respective communities and offer education in French to students from kindergarten to Grade 12.

    Last year, 727 students were enrolled at the school in Saint John and 1,200 in Fredericton. 


    Saint John City Coun. Donna Reardon said doesn't understand why the Saint John and Fredericton centres would be assessed so differently. (Robert Jones/CBC)

    Both centres have been renovated and expanded over the years.

    In addition to schools, both have daycares, live performance theatres, libraries, community banquet facilities and medical and dental office spaces.

    But while Samuel-de-Champlain is assessed for taxes by Service New Brunswick to be worth $22.8 million (including its non-taxable library), Sainte-Anne is valued at $70.5 million, more than three times as much.

    The difference was made worse this year when Service New Brunswick boosted Sainte-Anne's assessed value by $1.7 million, nearly 50 times the $35,000 increase the agency assigned to Samuel-de-Champlain.

    The province is paying $1.4 million in property tax on the two centres this year, $1 million of that to Fredericton and $400,000 to Saint John because of the uneven valuations.
    "It's incredibly significant," Darling said about the lower tax revenue Samuel-de-Champlain generates for Saint John from its cheaper assessment.



    "If you're following our budget deliberations, we're talking about do we open up a sports field or not. Can we afford to open up an aquatic centre or not. Do we mow the grass or not. Every $50,000 every $100,000 — that's a lot of programming, that's a lot of community support. So it matters."

    Although some of the $47.7 million difference in the assessments between the two centres is related to the fact Sainte-Anne is larger, about $18 million of the gap is caused by Service New Brunswick's judgment that Sainte-Anne, per square foot, is a significantly more valuable building and property

    Spread over its entire 296,775-square-foot floor space, Sainte-Anne's assessed value equates to $238 per square foot, well above the $132 per square foot Service New Brunswick applies to Samuel-de-Champlain.


    Saint John Mayor Don Darling said he wants to know more about the valuation of Centre scolaire Samuel-de-Champlain because of past experiences with Service New Brunswick assessments. (CBC)

    Reardon has a difficult time accepting those numbers .

    "That's a head banger for me," she said. "I don't understand that $100 differential a square foot.
    "There's a cost to building per square foot. It won't make any difference whether you build it in Fredericton or Saint John or wherever."


    In an email, Service New Brunswick said it uses a "cost approach" to evaluate each property that takes into account "a number of factors," including the quality and type of construction, the age and condition and design of the buildings, their location, the size of the land they occupy and any additional improvements.
    "The assessment value of École Sainte-Anne is higher than the assessment value per square foot of Samuel-de-Champlain because of a combination of the factors listed above," said the agency in its email.

    "The use of the property would also weigh into the overall assessment. For example, if the Samuel-de-Champlain school is not being fully utilized, then we would allow for functional depreciation."

    Saint John politicians have had an uneasy relationship with Service New Brunswick over the way it values property in the city since at least 2013, when the agency cut the assessed values of Saint John's two large pulp and paper mills by 40 per cent, citing poor economic conditions for the industry.

    The decision cost the city $1.5 million per year in tax revenue.


    Service NB cut its valuation of the Canaport LNG plant from $300 million to $98 million just before it became fully taxable by Saint John. The decision cost the city, and saved Irving Oil Ltd., more than $5 million a year. (Canaport LNG)

    In 2017, Service New Brunswick used the economic hardship argument again and lowered its valuation of the Canaport LNG property by $202 million on the eve of it becoming fully taxable by the city. That cost Saint John — and saved Irving Oil Ltd. — $5 million per year in property tax


    Last year, city politicians questioned why Saint John's new courthouse was assessed to be worth $6 million less than Moncton's new courthouse. The complaint led to Service New Brunswick raising the Saint John building's assessment by $6 million this year but without acknowledging a mistake had been made.

    Darling said that is all part of the reason he's interested to know more about the valuation of Centre scolaire-Samuel-de-Champlain. The city's experience has taught it not to automatically trust the numbers are reasonable.

    "If we don't have confidence today, how can we get ourselves to a place where we have we have more confidence in the taxation system and assessments?"  said Darling

    "It matters. Having fairness in the tax system and having people have confidence in the tax system."




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    David Amos
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    Methinks Higgy et al should not be surprised because I have been complaining about the actions of SNB in writing for 15 years or so N'esy Pas?









    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Methinks the Saint John Mayor Don Darling must recall our encounter in Fat Fred City on the day Higgy et al tabled their budget this year. Even though the budget had a positive spin Darling announced the very next day that he had changed his mind about seeking another term as Mayor However Darling has been stuck with the job because Higgy et al cancelled the municipal elections that were to be held in May. Hence this makes for interesting circus for me to watch N'esy Pas?














    Corrie Weatherfield
    tax the churches and their properties not the govt built places


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: I believe they do pay property tax .


    Corrie Weatherfield 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: For example, try looking at the assessment for this church in Freddy . . . "https://paol.snb.ca/paol.html?lang=en&pan=00898746"


    Dave Shimla
    Reply to @Lou Bell: No they don't Lou, why do you think Irving build Chapels on their properties. tax evasion at its finest ! https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/tax-exemptions-new-brunswick-foregone-revenue-1.5350250#:~:text=In%20the%20case%20of%20churches,in%20uncollected%20taxes%20per%20year.&text=Amounts%20municipalities%20lose%20from%20the%20tax%20exemption%20on%20churches%
     

    Dave Shimla
    Reply to @Dave Shimla: Service NB PDF
    https://www.welcomenb.ca/content/dam/agnb-vgnb/pdf/Reports-Rapports/2005v1/Chap3e.pdf didnt irving build an arena too lol wonder why?


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: I agree Google the following to see why

    David Amos Cardinal Bernard Law and IRS


    Jos Allaire 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Encore, to say pas de quase two parle, moody fall! 
     

























    Brian Robertson
    Saint John needs to be dragged kicking and screaming into the reality that their fiscal problems are rooted in the labor agreements struck decades ago that created a pension liability that they simply could not afford.
    You can only kick the can down the street for so long.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Brian Robertson: True but methinks you have overlooked the irving Clan skirting a lot of taxation etc N'esy Pas?


    Brian Robertson
    Reply to @David Amos:
    But haven't most clans done so as well.
    Only those envious of others seem to complain of them.



    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Brian Robertson: What is it you think you know of my Clan and its concerns about public corruption?
    David Peters
    Reply to @Brian Robertson:
    Being envious or looking to be treated equally/fairly?





























    Lou Bell
    Stii looking for the easy , low bearing fruit and it appears to be unwilling to follow the recommedations for getting their Finances in order . Time to take back their City from the Union bosses and realize who you're representing !! The people who put the monies in your coffers , or the people who TAKE the monies from your coffers !!!!



    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Say Hey to Higgy for me will ya?

    Jos Allaire
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Higgs aie ton Amy come Lamey they Irving!


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Jos Allaire: Mais Oui 
     

























    Johnny Almar
    I’m not saying it’s the Irving factor.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: I have been 
     

























    Donald Smith
    Saint John is done, Saint John doesn't exit in the big picture. Other Cities and Communities like Moncton do, WHY ? Mr. Doug James does bring up a good point, c`mon people explain and Justify the 3 pay raises of this council and yet us the tax payers should expect cut backs. Move to the South End where you get garbage pickup every week, snow removal first and foremost.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Donald Smith: Methinks Saint John is somewhat unique because it is overseen by Higgy et al N'esy Pas?
























    Murray Brown
    Somebody in Saint John needs to make up for the Irving's 'not' paying their fair share of taxes...


    Corrie Weatherfield 
    Reply to @Murray Brown: but it seems the issue here was that the assessment and therefore the taxes are also too low on this property.


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Murray Brown: Doesnt take long. Cue the Irving Bash that somehow gets angled into any fiscal article involving SJ, and occasionally the entire province regardless of how far of a grasp!!!


    David Peters
    Reply to @Ray Oliver:
    That's why monopolies aren't supposed to be allowed to form.


    David Amos
    Reply to @David Peters: BINGO


























    David Peters
    Property taxes on gov't owned buildings?


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Peters:
    A ponzi scheme........... out of one pocket and into another.



    David Amos

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    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: YUP




























    Terry Tibbs
    Might I suggest the hiring of an independent real estate appraiser to add some sort of reality into everyone's BS?


    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Why bother? The shred-it truck is always right around the corner. They'll pretend it never happened and then shred the evidence.


    Terry Tibbs 
    Reply to @Justin Gunther:
    If I owned real estate in Saint John, I too would expect to be compensated on my tax bill, for having to listen to the never ending whining.


    David Peters 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
    That would make for some fascinating reading, but, would no doubt reveal a problem that is so widespread as to be impossible to fix. Instead of looking at the past and pointing fingers, it would be better to right the ship.

    Righting the ship, imo, includes getting rid of corporate welfare and special tax breaks, while drastically shrinking the size of gov't at the same time. Many huge sectors that are now monopolized would see free market solutions introduced. This would mean real competition in the marketplace.

    Things would look different, but the old way of big gov't tax and spendism with most all sectors monopolized, may have finally become totally unsustainable.


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Peters:
    (No) Service NB bumped my property taxes here this year out of the blue. I appealed every case. I initially won 2, and lost 2. Then it took an independent appraisal to bring the other two in line.
    "Righting the ship", in every case I have been involved in, requires that the wholesale whining stop, and the bringing in of experts to fix things.
    CLEARLY a difficult thing for Saint John, because they tried that, and promptly ignored the experts.


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Peters:
    I can't help but *think* that Saint John NB is the most tiresome place I know of due to their seemingly non-stop whining.


    David Peters  
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
    That's a great outcome for you personally, but what about the overall problem that governments are now facing? An oversized gov't came after not only you for more $, they're coming after everyone, imo. Don't forget that inflation is a tax.


    David Peters  
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
    Maybe one person's whine is another person's justified complaint.


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Peters:
    Any trouble governments are now facing is the result of their own actions.
    Inflation is not a tax, it indicates a healthy economy, what is going to "catch us" is devaluation of our currency, which might look like inflation, but is caused by ALL levels of government spending more than they take in, especially the federal government, where "budgets balance themselves".
    I used my example to outline a point. If you have a valid complaint, don't complain, or whine, about it, DO SOMETHING.  


    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur

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    Methinks Humpty Dumpty aka Higgy must have figured out by now that folks living under the questionable rules of his Police State are very tired of all his flip flops N'esy Pas? 


    https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/higgs-scraps-legislation-to-increase.html


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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/blaine-higgs-bill-police-power-emergency-1.5612774



    Higgs scraps legislation to increase emergency powers of government and police

    Bill 49 will not proceed when the legislature resumes Tuesday



    Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 15, 2020 3:39 PM AT



    Premier Blaine Higgs said Monday a second shooting of a First Nations person by police in eight days convinced him it was the wrong time to give police more power. (Joe McDonald/CBC)

    The Higgs government is scrapping a plan to increase the emergency powers of the provincial cabinet and the police.

    Premier Blaine Higgs told reporters Monday afternoon the controversial legislation, Bill 49, would not proceed when the legislature resumes Tuesday.

    He said a second shooting of an Indigenous person by police in New Brunswick in an eight-day period had convinced him it was the wrong time to give police more power to stop people.

    "Friday night changed things for a lot of people, including myself," he said, referring to the death of Rodney Levi of Metepenagiag First Nation.

    The legislation introduced last week would have given police powers to stop people during a state of emergency and demand documentation to ensure they're complying with an emergency order.


    Chantel Moore, 26, and Rodney Levi, 48, were each shot and killed by police in New Brunswick this month. (CBC)

    Higgs reiterated that the bill was intended to clarify powers of enforcement officers working at the border to screen people entering the province for COVID-19.

    But he said in light of the two recent shootings and what he called "systemic racism … I think it's important now to focus on the healing process."

    Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers said Higgs was "very wise" to withdraw the bill, which he said was an anachronism that would likely not have survived a constitutional challenge.

    University of New Brunswick law professor Nicole O'Byrne, who slammed the bill after it was introduced last week, said the premier did the right thing.


    She said the bill "did more than it needed to do to tackle the problems that they articulated as the rationale for the bill in the first place."


    Nicole O'Byrne, a law professor at the University of New Brunswick, previously said it's unwise for government to amend emergency powers in an emergency. (CBC)

    Michael Bryant, the executive director of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, called it "a good democratic moment for New Brunswick."

    Higgs said he will join four of his ministers at a meeting with Indigenous chiefs on Wednesday to discuss the issue and said he was open to a public inquiry on police treatment of Indigenous people.

    "I can see that moving forward," he said.  "I could see it moving forward in a public inquiry that's well-defined so that we're sure to capture all of the issues that are currently of a concern."

    A shift in tone

    Higgs was hesitant about an inquiry last week, saying he wanted to get the facts on the death of Chantel Moore first before looking at broader issues.

    But Levi's shooting death last Friday, just eight days after Moore was fatally shot by an Edmundston city police officer during a wellness check, prompted the premier to shift his tone Monday.


    "We are still waiting to learn all of the facts but the process of beginning to heal and implement real changes cannot wait," he said.

    "We certainly have to recognize the challenge we're having here in our province, the systematic racism that seems to be part of our society, that has been for generations."
    Moore was a member of the Tla-o-qui-aht First Nation who had moved to the province.

    Both shootings are now under investigation by Quebec's independent police investigation agency, the Bureau des enquêtes indépendantes.

    Another part of Bill 49 that was also widely criticized would have let the cabinet suspend provincial laws or municipal bylaws during a state of emergency without a vote in the legislature for 30 days.

    This must be a time for us as a government to listen.- Blaine Higgs, premier

    The government argued last week that it would simply clarify in law the powers that the cabinet has already been using under the Emergency Measures Act.


    But the scrapping of the entire bill means that proposed change is dead as well.

    Public Safety Minister Carl Urquhart, Aboriginal Affairs Minister Jake Stewart, Justice Minister Andrea Anderson-Mason and Social Development Minister Dorothy Shephard will all join Higgs at the meeting with chiefs on Wednesday.

    "This must be a time for us as a government to listen," the premier said.

    "I've heard the calls for dialogue and the concerns of our First Nation chiefs. That is what I want our government to focus on right now."

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    Jacques Poitras
    Provincial Affairs reporter
    Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 


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    Buddy Best
    Higgs promised to roll back taxes on vehicles that the Liberals implemented. I just paid $893 on a $1500 purchase. Blood suckers. Times are tough enough for seniors. Don't call a cop for help!!!


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Buddy Best: A simple truth is that if the cops were not called last week two people would likely still be alive 
     


    David Amos

    Content disabled 
    Methinks Humpty Dumpty aka Higgy must have figured out by now that folks living under the questionable rules of his Police State are very tired of all his flip flops N'esy Pas?

    Terry Tibbs
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos:
    He isn't smart enough.


    Lou Bell
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! And you 2 are ? Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

























    val harris
    Content disabled
    Flip flop higgy is at er again


    Brian Robertson
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @val harris:
    That's not juvenile at all.

    Dan Stewart
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Brian Robertson: Just right it would seem..

    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @val harris: YUP

    Lou Bell 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @val harris: I see you've been reading the Amos blog . Another follower of the " Me Party " I see.

    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you read my latest blog because I am referring to you in the title of it N'esy Pas?

    val harris
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: no just saying what people are saying lou, you should listen to others at times

    Lou Bell 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: As I said before , don't follow the social media fake news never have , never will .

    Lou Bell 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Blogs are for those who can never get the attention of anyone and where they can open their rants up to anyone who has nothing better to do than to read fake news 

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    Lou Bell
    Content disabled
    Reply to @val harris: Exactly what Dave just said ! Surprise ! Surprise ! Surprise !

    Lou Bell
    Content disabled
    Reply to @val harris: And the leaders of the other parties WANTED INPUT into the changes ! You know that ! They said that when they were interviewed !















    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Methinks Humpty Dumpty aka Higgy must have figured out by now that many folks living under the questionable rules of his Police State are very tired of his nonsense N'esy Pas?










    Buford Wilson 
    Good call, Blaine.


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Buford Wilson:
    2 steps ahead, and 3 back, the "Higgs shuffle" in action.

    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks thats Mr Wilson's favourite dance N'esy Pas?



























    Bruce Ellingwood
    An excellent re-think of the situation Mr. Premier. Very refreshing from what how the liberals do things. Now, we just need you to drop the mandatory injection of children from Bill 11.


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Bruce Ellingwood:
    For a "re-think" to happen there has to be an initial "think".
    I see no evidence of that.
    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nor I


























    Claude DeRoche
    Another good reason to NEVER give the Irving Boy a majority government.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Claude DeRoche: I concur

    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Claude DeRoche: I'll take Higgs anytime over the SANB Liberals and their UNDISCLOSED 130 million dollar " PHONIE GAMES " giveaway ! Imagine ! 130 million ! TWICE what they gave Atcon ! Can you imagine 130 million on top of what COVID has cost ?? And if you have any idea at all , this would have had to have been passed in the Legislature ! And other party leaders in interviews indicated THEY WANTED INPUT into this legislation ! So it wasn't a " one party plan " !!!


    Justin Gunther
    Premiere Higgs, I formally request a US style "townhall" meeting. Or likely more than one, for the good of all of New Brunswick. The people would like to see you personally, shake your hand, and ask you some questions very politely.


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Justin Gunther:
    You are kidding me?
    I have met Mr Higgs twice, both times were followed by a strange compulsion to wash, thoroughly wash.


    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I'd like to have the opportunity to experience that myself, unpleasant as it may be.

    I also had a momentary lapse in judgement. I forget we're living in the age of no handshakes but protests are no big deal. So we'll scrap the handshake, Premiere Higgs, and perhaps just get close enough to tolerate each other.

    How does that sound?
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Justin Gunther:
    You forget, but you are not alone in forgetting, that with a Conservative majority these laws would have been a "done deal" last week, and we would be living them this week.
    How many times is this? Attempts at good governance, that were bad, with a complete reversal a couple of days later.
    We deserve better.
    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: YUP

    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Trust that many people will never forget my one and only encounter with Higgy



























    Mackenna Wilson
    Who thought expanding police powers as a good idea in the first place? Honestly, I am done with conservatives.


    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Mackenna Wilson: Methinks you are not alone N'esy Pas? 
     

    Edward Andrews
    Ah Higgs, it ain't the police that worry me is the politicians telling the police to take on more powers and adding more laws that they [politicians] then expect police to enforce. So if anyone is going to take a reality pill it's you. Crossing into NB and having someone demanding my ID, recording my information is a bit...well lets say we all thought that was over with in Sept of 1945. Add to this the person who took my ID wore no gloves, no mask and handled everyone's ID and could be a vector point for contaminating people. All a farcical show.


    David Amos  
    Reply to @Edward Andrews: Welcome to the circus




























    Matt Steele
    It sounds like Premier Higgs meant well as he thought that Law Enforcement needed the extra powers to keep the N.B. borders contained ; but he was wise to drop the idea as there has already been to much militarization of the police in Canada . It may be time to start reducing the powers , and militarization , of the police , rather than increasing them . We certainly do not need N.B. , or Canada in general for that matter , to become an example for George Orwell's " 1984 " .


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Matt Steele:
    If this doesn't prove once and for all that a Higgs majority government would be a BIG mistake I don't know what would.

    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks the path leads to madness if you try convincing the folks who swill the blue kool aid of what should be obvious to all N'esy Pas?
    Frank Dee
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: because of his ability to change his mind based on new information..?




























    Tim Smitty
    I wish he was running Alberta .


    Jos Allaire 
    Reply to @Tim Smitty: You can have him. He will fit right in!
    Tim Smitty 
    Reply to @Jos Allaire: better than the ucp
    Buddy Best
    Reply to @Tim Smitty: I wish he would too. Good reddens!!!!
    Joseph Carrier
    Reply to @Jos Allaire: Kenney is more Peter Lougheed with a tinge of Stock Day...
    Randy McNally 
    Reply to @Tim Smitty: I wish he was in Alberta


    David Amos
    Reply to @Tim Smitty: Me Too But for much different reasons than yours Of that I have no doubt



























    Lou Bell
    Didn't the SANB Liberals under Louis and McKenna underhandedly redo our Constitution without the consent of N.B.'s citizens , no votes , nothing ? Much like they did with their " Phonie Games " giveaway ? Perhaps this law would have given ALL citizens a choice, instead of just a chosen few !


    Buddy Best
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Yeah like the PC are saints!!!! They are all cut from the same cloth.
    Jos Allaire 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Reply to @Lou Bell: Tu fit plus avec ley COR. Say poor sa ke tame Higgs. Sayin COR.
    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: I bet if you go back even farther in time you can find something else to go on about... Do you really feel Higgs and his Conservatives are doing such a terrible job you have to compare them to perceived Liberal indiscretions at every opportunity?
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Dan Stewart:
    Lou is almost like a broken clock. A broken clock is right twice a day, giving something for Lou to aspire to.
    Randy McNally
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You did say "almost"...maybe twice a month?

    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its time for your nap N'esy Pas?

    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Randy McNally: Methinks even you are being too generous in your estimation N'esy Pas?


























    Terry Tibbs
    Another example of the , soon to be patented, Higgs shuffle.
    2 steps ahead, 3 back.


    Brian Robertson 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
    Of course you would prefer he make a complete political blunder.
    But, your fall back position serves for the moment.
    Why not come straight out and declare your undying loyalty to the left.


    Jos Allaire 
    Reply to @Brian Robertson: And you the right!


    Brian Robertson 
    Reply to @Jos Allaire:
    I am both; the right, and right.
    Terry is no doubt the left, and wrong.


    Terry Tibbs 
    Reply to @Brian Robertson:
    I'm beginning to believe that if not yet, but soon, if you google "political blunder", it will give you a picture of Mr Higgs.


    Jos Allaire 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Major blunder!!!!


    Brian Robertson 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
    Really.
    That hardly explains his continued high popularity amongst New Brunswickers.


    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @Brian Robertson: The thing about popularity is that it never lasts.


    Brian Robertson 
    Reply to @Dan Stewart:
    Absolutely.
    Just ask the Liberals about that.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: YUP



    David Amos 

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    Reply to @Brian Robertson: I just got done laughing Please tell me another one


    Terry Tibbs 
    Reply to @Brian Robertson:
    Sooner, or later, the voters in this province will wake up to the simple fact that Mr Higgs puts his mouth in gear before his brain realizes it's time to think.
    He, like the Liberals, have stacked the top spots in government with patronage appointments, so that when good advice is needed there is none to be had, resulting in actions of this sort.
    The political well is well poisoned in NB.



    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks you can trust in the fact that you and your brudda JJ ain't too popular in my blog today for rather obvious reasons N'esy Pas?



    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Jos Allaire: "Major blunder!!!!"

    Methinks its merely one of many faux pas' N'esy Pas?



    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Oh so true Methinks Higgy et al know as well as I that is why ran against them all 7 times thus far and even sued the Queen in 2015 N'esy pas?


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Jos Allaire: 83 % approval on how he's handling COVID !! 83 % !!! WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Terry Tibbs  
    Reply to @Lou Bell:
    Don't worry, he'll mess that up good and proper.
    Do you remember having to recite The Lord's Prayer in school and we all knew it by heart?
    But for some, like Mr Higgs, they had to write it down.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: 7 FAILING times with nary even 25 votes in any of them ! Now if that doesn'y qualify for a " Badge of Futility ' I don't know what does ! And howd you make out with " the Queen suit " ??


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: So you can't read . I knew that .


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: 83 % say you're wrong . 83 % !!!!!!!!! WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!


    Jos Allaire 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Form thaw djeule. Two fay an foll the toi.


    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks many would agree that it is you who can't even read the writing on the wall that Higgy's Police State has put around us N'esy Pas?


    Buddy Best
    Reply to @Brian Robertson: You are full of it Righty!!


    Buddy Best 
    Reply to @Brian Robertson: Thank COVID 19. This too will pass. Then Higgs is toast.

    Buddy Best 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Have you tried to get into SNB lately!!!!? Talk about overkill!!!! 
     

    Jos Allaire
    A politician's popularity is like in sports. You're as good as your last game!


    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @Brian Robertson: My point exactly... And I see no reason why we couldn't ask the Conservatives.


    Randy McNally
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Who are they asking? There is really not much good to be said about anybody who actually stays on the line long enough to do a survey, and if it's done online it's done on a page or a website supportive of whoever is paying for the pole. So in reality the results probably should be viewed with a plus/minus of well over 40%.


    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Randy McNally: Trust that I stay on line in order to save many words for my personal survey before they go "Poof"





























    Murray Brown
    Conservative philosophy typically argues against more government control. Socialist and Liberals typically calling for more control by government, then again Higgs is kind of like the Donald... He's not a conservative or a liberal... He's an Irving man.


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Murray Brown:
    Making him a little bit of both, depending on the direction the wind is blowing.



    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Higgy don't think that deep He just follows orders tis all and his handlers are mindless greedy fools N'esy Pas? 
     

    Randy McNally
    Reply to @Murray Brown: At least that is the perception they(whoever "they" are) want us to have for what ever reason. The fact remains that people are individuals and each one capable (in most cases) of formulating and entertaining an original thought. Problem is, the media go to great lengths to frame everything within a red/blue paradigm - 2 teams. There are two teams but they are not red and blue. They are the government and the people and we'd be well advised keep that in mind


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Randy McNally: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
























    Bob Smith
    The recent deaths didn't stop the bill alone. I think it was sober second thought as well away from those who wanted this in the first place.


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Bob Smith:
    You are assuming a lot. Was there even a first thought?



    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Bob Smith: Dream on 

    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nope






















     

    Amajor Hall
    Dictatorship averted!


    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Amajor Hall: Not really

    Methinks many would agree that the Police State already here Higgy et al just wanted to make appear legal but their mindless Bill put the spotlight on their wrongs N'esy Pas?

























    Greg Bragdon
    What many critical of this government fail to acknowledge is that it does adopt constructive criticism, which in part is good governance.


    Jos Allaire 
    Reply to @Greg Bragdon: Although in this case, we was not only way out in left field, but not even in the ballpark. A totally unconstitutional decision and a blatant violation of fundamental rights. CONservatives are well-known for that.


    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @Greg Bragdon: Or what Cons like to say when its a Liberal government... Wishy-washy...


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Greg Bragdon:
    It shouldn't have to adopt anything. As tax payers we are paying top dollar for department heads who know their stuff and can advise government wisely on policy. Instead, those top spots have become patronage appointments, making them homes for do nothing/know nothings.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Greg Bragdon: Yea Right


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Jos Allaire: And the other parties when asked about it last week , indicated THEY WANTED INPUT into the bill . Even the SANB Liberals !


    Matt Steele

    Reply to @Greg Bragdon: ....Very true ; the Higgs Govt. does seem to react to the concerns of N.B.ers ; quite a change from Brian Gallant's total control at all costs management style .


    Jos Allaire 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: It was the COR Higgs idea!


    Jos Allaire 
    Reply to @Matt Steele: An note foo red! 
     

    Buddy Best
    Reply to @Matt Steele: No grey matter required!!. Throw out an outrageous idea and then crush to look like a hero.
    You can fool some of the people some time!! 


    David Amos
    Reply to @Buddy Best: But not all the folks all the time 
    James Smythe
    Really? It took the second shooting of a person by the RCMP for him to arrive at this conclusion? As in the first shooting, along with everything going on in the US at the moment wasn’t already an overwhelming abundance of evidence for him to realize how insensitive it was to table a bill like this now? Good grief. 
    David Amos
    Reply to @James Smythe: Welcome back to the circus
    Dan Stewart
    Surely no one is surprised that such a ill considered bill has been tossed. I suspect the day after it was proposed the writing was on the wall... Higgs just needed the right time to say so.
    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: I suspect he would have found "the right time" even if there hadn't been a second death.
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Dan Stewart:
    Here is "the scary bit", with a majority Conservative government this would have been passed last week and we would be living it this week.
    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Oh So True 
     
    Kim Life-Coach
    Mr Higgs, please be transparent. The fact remains you had an on-slot of negativity in this regards as you did with your wish to close hospitals prior. Frankly, it would have been best to just say, I made an error in judgement. I commend you for your position on handling Covid19, but certainly not with losing health care facilities and a do what you want policy for enforcement. We the people are the voters!

    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Kim Life-Coach: I agree with most of what you wrote, but myself, I would have suggested that Higgs find another phrase than "error in judgement." That one's been overused recently.
    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: ...let's try 'Judgemental error!', better??

    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Kim Life-Coach: Methinks according to the rules your opinion should not count because you cannot vote with the name you use in here N'esy Pas?
    Jeff LeBlanc
    Good. Now maybe cooler heads will prevail instead of "let's toss Higgs and vote in Vickers". Somewhere in Canada Curtiss Barrett is smiling. #neverforget
    Jos Allaire 
    Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Higgs Eva pruned an day bark next election!
    Jos Allaire 
    Higgs sayin grow truth Tchu!
    David Barker 
    Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: I don't think so. Vickers has a good head on his shoulders. He hasn't yet been given a chance to shine as Higgs hasn't allowed a by-election. He wouldn't have made these recent blunders that Higgs made.
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:
    I *think* you are missing the most important point. BOTH parties have had opportunity to prove their worth, and deserve to be left in minority government limbo, where we can keep a close eye on them and they have to openly cooperate to get anything done.
    This is yet another complete reversal for Mr Higgs. With a majority this would have been passed last week and we would have been living it this week.
    Jeff LeBlanc
    Reply to @David Barker: You don't even know who Curtiss Barrett is do you?

    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Methinks there are lots of things that you should never forget as well N'esy Pas?
     

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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mandatory-vaccination-bill-11-notwithstanding-clause-1.5614659


    MLAs vote to drop notwithstanding clause from mandatory vaccination bill

    Contentious legislation seeks to remove religious, philosophical exemptions for school children


    Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 16, 2020 5:58 PM AT



    A committee of MLAs have voted to remove the notwithstanding clause from Education Minister Dominic Cardy's mandatory vaccination bill. (Gilbert Rowan/CBC)

    A committee of MLAs has voted to remove the controversial notwithstanding clause from a bill on mandatory vaccinations.

    Members of all parties, including the governing Progressive Conservatives, voted unanimously to strike the clause, which would have protected the proposed law from future constitutional challenges in court.

    That could improve the odds that the bill will eventually pass, since some Liberal MLAs have said they could only vote yes to the legislation if the clause was removed.

    The bill would eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions from the requirement that children be vaccinated if they attend public schools. It will take effect for the 2021-22 school year.

    Victoria-La Vallée Liberal MLA Chuck Chiasson introduced the amendment to remove the clause after accusing Education Minister Dominic Cardy of moving too fast to take away people's rights without looking at other options such as education campaigns.


    Liberal MLA Chuck Chiasson says use of the notwithstanding clause creates 'a slippery slope' and other alternatives should be pursued.

    "Once the freedom is gone it's good for good, and if we're going to take away rights and freedoms, we better have tried every other alternative and we better have a darned good reason," Chiasson said.

    "I fear that we're headed down a slippery slope that we don't need to head down at this time, because there are alternatives. I for one just won't be part of it."

    Chiasson emphasized that he was speaking for himself and not for his party.

    All Liberal MLAs are allowed a free vote on the legislation, and Premier Blaine Higgs has said all PC members, including cabinet ministers, can also vote their consciences.





    PC MLA Bruce Northrup has already said he will vote against the legislation, while other Tories have said they will wait to see the final amended version of the bill before deciding.

    The legislation would allow Public Heath officials to establish a list of required vaccinations. Children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not be allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021.

    The goal is to immunize enough children to create herd immunity so that the small number of children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons will still be protected from an outbreak.

    Controversial clause

    Last fall, Premier Blaine Higgs said government lawyers had concluded the bill would not be constitutional unless it invoked the notwithstanding clause, which would exempt it from sections of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including those on freedom of religion.

    But after Liberal objections, Cardy said he'd be willing to take it out to win more votes for the legislation. No one from the government spoke against Chiasson's amendment Tuesday.


    Education Minister Dominic Cardy says the current exemptions are 'often abused.' (CBC)

    Chiasson, the party's education critic, pointed out that last year, Dr. Noni MacDonald, a well-known Nova Scotia pediatrician, called mandatory vaccine laws "a simple solution to a complex problem."





    She called for better education campaigns to persuade parents, something Chiasson said Cardy should try before he passes a bill infringing on rights.

    "Why would we not try that before we went down the road of mandatory vaccinations?" he asked.
    Cardy responded that the existing system already violates the rights of children who can't go to school because they have weakened immune systems and the risk of an infection is too great.

    More vaccinations would create herd immunity that would make it safe for them, he said.
     
     
    People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin says he's struggling on which way to vote. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

    People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin inched closer to a clear statement Tuesday on how he'll vote, saying he'll be "hard-pressed" to support something that in his view violates parental rights.

    But he concluded his questions to Cardy without declaring what he'll do, saying he was "really struggling" with how to vote.





    'This is a balancing of rights'

    Cardy acknowledged Tuesday that it's still not possible to provide a clear picture of vaccination rates in schools. There is no breakdown of how many exemptions are religious, how many are philosophical and how many are for valid medical reasons.

    But he said the existing exemptions are "often abused," with people claiming medical reasons when there are none or citing supposed religious prohibitions to vaccinations that don't exist.

    He also admitted that parental rights would be limited by the bill but he said the education system already limits other rights when it prevents students from bringing weapons, or even peanut butter, to school.

    "This is a balancing of rights," he said.

    Tuesday's committee session adjourned without a final vote on the bill. Debate is expected to resume Wednesday afternoon.



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    David Amos
    Go Figure

    "Last fall, Premier Blaine Higgs said government lawyers had concluded the bill would not be constitutional unless it invoked the notwithstanding clause, which would exempt it from sections of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including those on freedom of religion.

    But after Liberal objections, Cardy said he'd be willing to take it out to win more votes for the legislation. No one from the government spoke against Chiasson's amendment Tuesday." 


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Not another case of the Higgs shuffle, or maybe a Higgs shuffle with a twist, the twist of ignoring the government lawyers (what would they know anyway?) setting the whole thing up for failure............
    I do know 1 thing though, when politicians say things like "it's a balancing of rights" it most surely isn't by any stretch of anyone's imagination.

























    Jos Allaire
    "He also admitted that parental rights would be limited by the bill but he said the education system already limits other rights when it prevents students from bringing weapons, or even peanut butter, to school. "
    Peanut butter and butter tarts!


    David Amos 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks Cardy partakes of way too many butter tarts so the fear of peanut butter easily overcomes him N'esy Pas?

























    James Smythe
    Higgs now proposes mandatory injections of Irving oil into all New Brunswickers and their children in order to bolster demand for fossil fuels.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @James Smythe: Please don't give Higgy any ideas































    Bruce Ellingwood
    Keep a record of those MLA's that vote in favor of Bill 11 and regardless of party affiliation, work on their riding association to replace them, or if that fails, follow them to all public events and remind them of choice.


    Bob Smith
    Reply to @Bruce Ellingwood: Why would you suggest that? MLA's are supposed to vote according to what they believe is best for everyone, not just science deniers.


    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @Bob Smith: Really makes little difference, regardless of what anti-vaxers think they are such a small minority it really matters not.


    James Smythe
    Reply to @Bob Smith: I think you’re confusing “freedom lovers” with “science deniers”. I’m an avid proponent of science, but also of small government that doesn’t tell me how to live my life. Besides, if vaccines are such excellent protection, and you opt to receive one, what difference does it make if somebody else doesn’t? I’ll just wait here for your mental gymnastics routine that will surely follow.


    David Amos
    Reply to @James Smythe: Well Put Sir 
     

    Mary Smith
    Reply to @James Smythe: It's like if you don't wear a seat belt in the car, and the other passengers do. You say "I don't need to wear one, you have yours" and then there's crash. What do you think will happen to the person without a seat belt on? They'll become a projectile, hitting and crashing into those wearing their seat belts, causing bodily harm.

    We're all in the same car. What you do matters, and has ripple effects beyond your decision.

    You don't vaccinate yourself or your kids, not because of medical exemption, but because you opt out for personal belief reasons. You could give it to someone who gives it to their sibling who is still to young to have received all of their shots. To an infant. To a pregnant mother, complicating her pregnancy and potentially causing life threatening and damaging consequences to the fetus. To someone who is immuno-compromised. To someone who can't be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons.

    Or even to someone who did everything right, got their vaccines, but didn't create enough antibodies and doesn't have enough to be considered immune - it's rare, but it can happen - as it did to this doctor in NS: "We still have one doctor who tested negative [for measles immunity], despite the fact that he has been vaccinated and had all of his vaccinations. And so he can't work for two weeks on account of this person." This happened because the hospital was exposed to a Measles patient and they had to test everyone to see if they had enough of the Measles antibodies to be considered immune, and this one doctor fell below that threshold and had to go into isolation, potentially could have contracted Measles even though he did everything right.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/doctor-impact-measles-scare-1.5117284 


    Mary Smith 
    Reply to @James Smythe: "I’m an avid proponent of science, but also of small government that doesn’t tell me how to live my life."

    No one is telling you that you even have to have vaccines. Just that you need them to attend public school, except if you can't get one for legitimate medical reasons. If you opt out of vaccines, you opt out of public school and must either send your child to private school, home school them, or do online learning.

    You're not allowed to bring peanut butter to most schools. You shouldn't be allowed to attend if you don't have all of your vaccines. You should not be allowed to opt out of vaccines for personal reasons. This bill isn't for mandating vaccines, you can still opt out, but if you opt out, you opt out of your child physically attending public school too. You have the freedom of choice, but you aren't free of the consequences from that choice.


    Mary Smith
    Reply to @Mary Smith: But also, with that said, I think "better education campaigns to persuade parents" should be implemented if this bill can't pass in the form originally proposed. Have a campaign so that those who opt out, must at least be informed of what it is they're opting out of, and thus making an informed decision. Education is key, and if we can have people make well informed decisions based on science and not out of ignorance, we all win. If we go down that path, and people are still opting out of vaccines for personal reasons, then we should revisit this bill in it's original form - if you opt out of vaccines, you'd still be free to do that, but you wouldn't be free from the consequences of those actions, which would be either homeschool, private school, or online learning.

    Mandatory vaccines for children attending public school - and remember, this does NOT include the Covid-19 vaccine, for which that doesn't exist yet, and this bill was made before this pandemic. This bill is for the mandatory vaccines all children in NB are supposed to receive: https://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/h-s/pdf/en/CDC/Immunization/RoutineImmunizationSchedule.pdf


    Terry Tibbs
    Content disabled  
    Reply to @Mary Smith:
    >NO< (and I'm not wasting my time arguing with you) (so that is 2X no)
    David Amos 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks lady doth protest too much N'esy Pas?
    Terry Tibbs
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Methinks somebody is somebody elses paid shill.
    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Me Too 
     

    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    POOF! (guess I was right)


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Already blogged it


    James Smythe
    Reply to @Mary Smith: Your misplaced analogy makes for mildly entertaining sensationalism bordering on ridiculous hyperbole, but a more accurate representation would be that we are all driving our own car. My wearing or not wearing a seatbelt in the event of an accident between us has no bearing on your survival if you are wearing one.

    What you do has ripple effects in your car as well if you’d like to continue this analogy. Let’s say for example you’re changing your radio station as the light is turning green, and you’re 2 seconds late in advancing on said green. The person behind you takes an on-ramp to a highway, where they are then sideswiped by a truck and pass away in the accident. Had you not been playing with your radio that extra 2 seconds, this wouldn’t have happened. So you’d be comfortable being charged as an accessory to their untimely death in this case? We can’t hold everybody infinitely and retroactively culpable for the infinite amount of possibilities that may arise from our actions.




















    Bruce Ellingwood
    Parents /guardians who agree with forced vaccinations sure put an enormous amount of faith in for profit chemical corporations.


    David Amos 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Bruce Ellingwood: Yup


    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @Bruce Ellingwood: Hmm, What do Parents /guardians who disagree with vaccinations based nothing more than pseudoscience and the odd celebrity put their faith in?


    Bruce Ellingwood
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: The facts are out there, stay willfully blind.


    Dan Stewart  
    Reply to @Bruce Ellingwood: LOL... Yep, thats it Bruce... you know all the facts.. You are so SMRT!


    Bruce Ellingwood
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Ditto Danny !


    Dan Stewart  
    Reply to @Bruce Ellingwood: Just keep believing Bruce! The truth Is Out There (cue X-Files theme)


    John Grail
    Reply to @Bruce Ellingwood: Let's hope NB's MLAs still vote against this bill. It seems to be trying to cure problems that just don't exist. 


    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @John Grail: Certain commenters on this story are likely not even in New Brunswick, and possibly have never been in New Brunswick based on simple Google searching. It's hard not to have an online presence these days. Go-go vaccine apologists.

    Have you been to New Brunswick?


    John Grail 
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: It doesn't matter what province a story is in. I am very alarmed at any government overreach.
    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Trust that I googled you weeks ago
    Harvey York 
    Reply to @David Amos: my, how very creepy of you 
     

    David Amos
    Reply to @Harvey York: Obviously there is no need to do so with you 


    Harvey York
    Reply to @David Amos: those of us who have managed to lead fairly normal lives and keep our noses clean normally don't appear in google searches. Feel free to look me up on Facebook, however


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Harvey York: Methinks anonymous tr o lls are more than merely creepy n'esy Pas? 
     

    Harvey York
    Reply to @David Amos: got nothing on you, actually you have my sympathies.




























    Justin Gunther
    Are there so many religious/philosophical objections that it's impossible to reach herd immunity without making vaccines mandatory? If we're only talking about a few fringe people who have no idea what they're talking about, and clearly no valid reason to hesitate, shouldn't herd immunity be reached without making it illegal to go to school without it?

    What is it, 70% required for herd immunity? So does this mean you are literally attempting to force at least 30% of parents to vaccine their kids? That's a large fringe.

    Somebody help me understand this. I am admittedly not a subject matter expert on vaccines.


    David Amos  
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: In a nutshell our children are not Cardy's cattle

     
    Dan Stewart
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: That probably is the case. Frankly had governments and school boards enforced the laws we have on the books about vaccinations most of this new law would have probably been moot.


    David Amos   
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Are you a lawyer?



    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Or is your first name Jake?


    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @David Amos: LOL... looking for some free legal advice Dave?



    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Ask your hero Higgy or his buddies in the RCMP whether I need legal advice or not


    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @David Amos: Wouldn't it be better to ask someone who actually knew who you were? I mean other that just... Oh, that Guy...



    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Call Erin O'Toole I was talking to him earlier today about when we butted heads in Nova Scotia back in 2004/05 or Roger Brown the current Chief of the Fat Fred City Finest He knows me.


    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: So Jake why don't you answer your emails or return my phone calls?


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: "Nobody in this thread has a verifiable NB presence based on googling their name and "New Brunswick." That's all I'm saying."

    Try it again
























    Greg Miller
    So will the law have "teeth" or are we wimping out?


    Bob Smith 
    Reply to @Greg Miller: I doubt the bill will be passed. The anti vaccine crowd will shout huzzah and return to their out of province residences to fight a vaccine for Covid whenever it comes forth, using the same arguments.
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Greg Miller: I hope you are whimping out
    Bruce Ellingwood 
    Reply to @Bob Smith: Covid does not need a vaccine. The cure is already out there in hCq.
    Bob Smith 
    Reply to @Bruce Ellingwood: You're not suggesting hydroxychloroquine, are you? I mean, seriously?

    Dan Stewart
    Reply to @Bruce Ellingwood: Kind of funny to see someone complain about drug companies in one post then promote them and their use in an other...

    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks its incredibly comical to see your hero Higgy oversee the selling of dope N'esy Pas?

    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @David Amos: Nothing any more comical around here Dave than you... You should charge admission!

    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Its Higgy's circus not mine and I presume that you must be one of his minions named Jake because you did not deny it

    Dan Stewart
    Reply to @David Amos: Boys you sure do presume a lot of things... I see now why you need so many alter egos...
    David Amos 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: I do not pretend to be anyone else like you do
    David Amos 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: POOF


    John Grail
    Reply to @Greg Miller: Let's hope this violation of rights gets shut down entirely.





    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/vaccination-bill-11-cardy-new-brunswick-1.5605162


    Much-anticipated mandatory vaccination debate begins in N.B. legislature

    Review of contentious Bill 11 extended into Wednesday



    Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 09, 2020 6:12 PM AT



    The controversial Bill 11 seeks to eliminate philosophical and religious exemptions from the requirement for schoolchildren to be vaccinated. (Gilbert Rowan/CBC)


    Education Minister Dominic Cardy has warned his fellow MLAs that the issue of mandatory vaccinations won't be going away.

    Cardy made the comments as a committee of the legislature began a long-awaited consideration of Bill 11, his legislation to eliminate philosophical and religious exemptions from the requirement for schoolchildren.

    "When faith in science and institutions is coming under more threat and pressure than at probably any other point in our lifetimes, this bill is a firewall to protect our schoolchildren," Cardy said.


    "Because this won't be the end of the discussion. Vote yes or no on this bill, if there's a vaccine for COVID-19, how will we have that conversation? These are the problems we're all going to face as legislators. The question now is what we do about it."


    Education Minister Dominic Cardy said Tuesday his bill is a 'firewall to protect our schoolchildren.' (Submitted by the Government of New Brunswick)


    The committee's review of the bill is expected to continue Wednesday.

    Bill 11 would eliminate all non-medical exemptions to the requirement for vaccinations, including those on religious and philosophical grounds.

    An earlier version of Cardy's bill was introduced long before the COVID-19 pandemic, and the bill has no specific reference to the coronavirus, for which no vaccine is expected to exist until next year.

    The legislation would apply to a list of vaccines established by Health Canada. Children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not be allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021.
    The goal is to immunize enough children to create herd immunity so that the small number of children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons will still be protected from an outbreak.



    The first version of the bill was harshly criticized by anti-vaccination activists who testified during three days of committee hearings last summer.

    In the wake of those hearings, some MLAs from all four parties in the legislature said they were undecided whether to support the bill.

    Fairness questioned

    On Tuesday afternoon, Liberal MLA and education critic Chuck Chiasson questioned the logic behind some aspects of the bill, such as the fact it applies to children but not to adults working in schools.

    "If you're a child and you're not vaccinated, you cannot attend school," he said. "If you're an adult and you're not vaccinated, you can attend school.

    "To me it just doesn't sound like something that is — I could say — fair. It's not affording exactly the outcome that the minister is looking for."



    Liberal education critic Chuck Chiasson said he was frustrated with the lack of information coming from the education minister.


    He also said it was hard to decide on how to support the bill when Cardy, citing privacy rules, wouldn't provide a breakdown of how many exemptions are medical, how many are philosophical and how many are religious.



    At one point Chiasson said he was frustrated with how long Cardy was taking to answer his questions.

    "I don't need all this pomp and ceremony around each question that I ask," he said. "I find it kind of disturbing that I have to keep digging and digging just to get that straight answer."

    Cardy explained that because of physical distancing requirements, he was relying on staff to help him answer questions via a digital device and that's why his replies were taking so long.

    Notwithstanding clause

    In his questions, Chiasson did not broach a key issue for the Liberal opposition: the bill's invocation of the notwithstanding clause from the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which would shield the bill from a constitutional challenge.

    Both the Liberals and the Greens have said they will try to remove the clause.

    At last summer's hearings on the first version of the bill, one national anti-vaccination organization threatened to challenge the constitutionality of the legislation if it passed.

    Cardy responded with a new version of the bill last November citing the notwithstanding clause of the charter. That would exempt the bill from a charter challenge on a number of grounds, including sections that guarantee freedom of religion.

    Premier Blaine Higgs is giving all his MLAs, including his cabinet ministers, a free vote on the bill. The Liberals are expected to vote in unison against the bill if the notwithstanding clause stays in but will be able to vote freely if it comes out.
     
    The Greens and the People's Alliance have also raised concerns about the use of the notwithstanding clause.



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    David Amos
    I repeat Methinks Cardy's all knowing attitude is becoming more of burden for Higgy et al with each passing day N'esy Pas?

     
    David Peters
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Lobbying by big pharma might make it more palatable though. $$$ talks








    john smith
    if it wasnt for this bill i would almost back cardy but he has shown his plumage as a tyrant



    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @john smith:
    I *think* you are giving far too much credit to Mr Cardy's actions.







    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/vaccination-bill-11-new-brunswick-cardy-anderson-mason-1.5586973



    PC ministers spar over vaccination bill, but debate unexpectedly delayed

    Attorney General Andrea Anderson-Mason voiced discomfort with Education Minister Dominic Cardy's bill


    Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: May 27, 2020 4:38 PM AT



    Education Minister Dominic Cardy wants to use the notwithstanding clause to fend off court challenges to his mandatory vaccination bill. (CBC)

    The long-awaited and potential decisive phase in New Brunswick's debate over mandatory vaccinations was abruptly put on hold Wednesday.

    MLAs were poised to begin studying Education Minister Dominic Cardy's Bill 11, which would eliminate all non-medical exemptions to the requirement for vaccinations, including those on religious and philosophical grounds.

    But the sitting of the legislative committee that was going to examine the bill was abruptly called off when Cardy had to attend a special meeting of the government's all-party committee on COVID-19 happening at the same time.



    "It would be impossible to have proper debate on this bill without his presence, so committee was delayed until next Tuesday," said Caraquet Liberal MLA Isabelle Thériault.
    Opposition MLAs on the committee hope to amend the bill in a way that could make or break its chances of passing.

    Both the Liberals and the Greens will try to remove the bill's use of the notwithstanding clause from the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. By invoking the clause, the legislation is shielded from a constitutional challenge.

    Attorney general voices concern

    At the same time, two Progressive Conservative cabinet ministers continue to spar over the need for the legislation.

    Attorney-General Andrea Anderson-Mason has repeatedly signalled she's not comfortable with the bill, and in a recent Facebook post implicitly rejected Cardy's description of its opponents.

    "I was originally told that the only people who would oppose this bill would be people on the fringe," she said in a May 24 post. "That was incorrect."

    Andrea Anderson-Mason MLA Fundy The Isles Saint John West
    on Sunday
    Thank you!! I asked a question and wow, you responded and you (for the most part) were respectful.
    What I learned: I learned that the topic of mandatory vaccinations can be an emotional issue. People who support Bill 11 can be as assertive as those who oppose it.
    The vast majority of people fall somewhere in the middle.
    ...See More

    She said that "being told by government what you can or cannot do with your body does not settle well."

    Cardy said Tuesday he was not concerned with his PC cabinet colleague's comments.

    "I think Andrea Anderson-Mason's comments have been pretty clear, and I think mine are as well, and I'm happy mine are backed by science and reason, and I'm happy to go forward on that basis," he said.


    Andrea Anderson-Mason, minister of justice and attorney general, has signalled concern about the government telling people what they can or cannot do with their bodies. (Radio-Canada)

    Cardy also repeated his criticisms of opponents of the bill, including protestors on the lawn of the legislature Tuesday who didn't practice physical distancing from each other.

    He described them as people "who subscribe to a vague, weird Trumpian ideal of how the world works."

    The unusual public spectacle of two ministers sparring over a piece of legislation would normally be untenable in the Westminster system of cabinet government.



    But Higgs is allowing all his MLAs, including his ministers, a free vote on the bill.
    "I don't relish the idea of two ministers duking it out in the public, but it is what it is," he said Tuesday. "They can each vote their own way."

    Anderson-Mason did not respond to an interview request Wednesday.

    Bill would come into effect fall 2021

    Cardy's bill was introduced long before the COVID-19 pandemic and has no specific reference to the coronavirus, for which no vaccine is expected to exist until next year.

    The bill would eliminate philosophical, religious and other non-medical exemptions from an existing requirement that all school children be vaccinated.

    Children not vaccinated for any reason other than health concerns would not be allowed to go to public schools starting in the fall of 2021.



    An earlier version of the bill was harshly criticized by anti-vaccination activists who testified during three days of committee hearings last summer.
    In the wake of those hearings, some MLAs from all four parties in the legislature said they were undecided whether to support the bill.

    One national anti-vaccination organization threatened to challenge the constitutionality of the legislation if it passed.

    Cardy responded with a new version of the bill last November that includes the use of the notwithstanding clause of the Charter.

    That would exempt the bill from a Charter challenge on a number of grounds, including sections that guarantee freedom of religion.


    People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said he's concerned for government overreach with the current makeup of the bill. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

    Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers said this week his party remains "concerned" about the preemptive suspension of Charter rights and will try to amend the bill to take out the clause. That will make it more likely that some Liberal MLAs can vote for it.



    Cardy said again this week he is willing to remove the notwithstanding clause.
    "For me, it wouldn't be a compromise," he said. "I have no issues with the notwithstanding clause not being included. I felt the bill would stand without it and I'm very happy to support it without it."

    Vickers said the debate is really about "the best way to get the most number of people vaccinated" and said Liberal MLAs would also be able to vote freely on the bill.

    Green Party Leader David Coon said his party will also introduce amendments, including one to remove the notwithstanding clause. Another would give chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell the power to decide when the bill takes effect.
     

    Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers said his party will try amend the bill to remove the notwithstanding clause. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

    Meanwhile, People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin sounded a sceptical note about the legislation.
    He said whether the notwithstanding clause stays in the bill or comes out, it's use is an acknowledgement the legislation is not constitutional.

    "For me the real question is more about people's right to choose for themselves," he said, questioning whether school staff, health-care workers and eventually other government employees will also be subjected to similar laws.

    "Where do we stop?" he said. "It's about government overreach to me."

    Cardy said he's optimistic that there will be enough MLAs from all parties who see the merits of the bill, especially with COVID-19 highlighting the importance of vaccinations.

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    Jacques Poitras
    Provincial Affairs reporter
    Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 


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    David Amos
    Methinks whereas the Minister of Health is a lawyer I bet some folks would like to know where Teddy Baby stands on the need for Cardy's vaccination legislation and his latest scheme about the notwithstanding clause N'esy Pas? 












    Lou Bell
    Guess some politicians have less of a concern for the health of their constituents than others ! Not really surprising . Money trumps doing the right thing . Move on Ms. Anderson- Mason , you've had your 15 minutes of infamy .


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you are losing your faith in Higgy et al N'esy Pas?


    Mary MacKenzie 
    Reply to @David Amos: If you're going to use French, perhaps type it correctly.













    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Surprise Surprise Surprise The legislature just adjourned til June 9th 














    john smith
    Content disabled
    treating healthy people as lepars is really quite rich


    Aibreann Carey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @john smith:
    Putting children at risk of serious consequences from preventable disease is unconscionable.


    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @john smith: I agree


    Aibreann Carey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @john smith:
    No it isn’t a “false argument”.
    Vaccination eradicated polio in India, where the population was “healthy” until they weren’t.


    john smith 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Aibreann Carey: bill gates is banned from india for the injuries he caused


    Aibreann Carey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @john smith:
    No he is not.
    No he did not.

    Fact checked. Correct.


    john smith 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Aibreann Carey: 496 000+ that are paralysed between 2000 and 2017 would say different likelwise the folks in ukraine and many parts of africa would join the chorus


    Aibreann Carey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @john smith:
    That is a proven inaccuracy, favoured and promoted by antivaxxers who oppose eradication of polio for some reason that remains known only to them.


    john smith 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Aibreann Carey: hey it syour soul man i would never stop you from injecting what you want in your body but to force it into mine well thats a special kinda mindset their


    john smith
    Content disabled
    Reply to @john smith: you might want to find a more reputable place then snopes to get your facts bud


    Aibreann Carey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @john smith:
    Do what you like.
    Choosing to become a public health menace has consequences. Not punishment: consequences. Up to you.


    Aibreann Carey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @john smith:
    You’re talking to yourself.

    You might want to fact check for yourself, accurate and reliable sources not found on YouRube or antivax rubbish.

    Bud.


    Aibreann Carey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @john smith:
    No it could not. There is no parallel whatsoever.


    john smith 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Aibreann Carey: source materials not accurate enough lol ok roger


    Aibreann Carey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @john smith:
    Say what?


    Tom Simmons 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Aibreann Carey: LOL
     
    John Grail
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Aibreann Carey: Nice retort. No actual evidence, just shouting "not true"


    Aibreann Carey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @John Grail:
    “Not true” is an accurate description of what is false.


    David Amos 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @john smith: Methinks it should not matter what Kevin Vickers says about actions within the legislature until he gets elected and is sworn in. However folks certainly should ask him why i sued the Queen in 2015 because of his actions against me since 2004 N'esy Pas?





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    Methinks Conservative spin doctors need to be quick on the draw if they want to read what the ghost of comments past posts about matters before CBC ignores free speech and makes his words evaporate N'esy Pas?



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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-electoral-riding-boundaries-1.5614026




    Province has until fall to appoint commission that would redraw electoral boundaries

    At time of COVID restrictions, commission would have to hold public hearings, report by next spring


    Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 17, 2020 7:00 AM AT



    The Blaine Higgs government must appoint an independent commission to redraw electoral riding boundaries that would keep with population shifts. (Government of New Brunswick)

    Pandemic or no pandemic, the Higgs government is facing a looming deadline to start the redrawing of the province's 49 electoral riding boundaries.

    A provincial law requires the appointment of an independent commission by October, followed by public hearings and a preliminary report by next March.

    Those hearings would have to take place while COVID-19 measures are still in effect in the province, including restrictions on indoor gatherings of more than 10 people.

    Taking guidance from Public Health 

    Premier Blaine Higgs said in a statement that the commission will be appointed on schedule "so it can undertake its vital work."

    He said the province "will take guidance from Public Health and other officials on how the commission can undertake its important outreach with New Brunswickers, in relation to the risks posed by COVID 19."

    The law requires a redrawing of electoral boundaries every 10 years to reflect population increases and decreases.

    That's to ensure that each riding has roughly the same number of voters so that political representation is roughly equal.

    "In order for the population to be effectively represented, it's important that the boundaries be looked at [and] that they do reflect changes in population shifts, demographics, and whatnot," said chief electoral officer Kim Poffenroth.


    For the population to be effectively represented, chief electoral officer Kim Poffenroth said boundaries need to reflect changes in population shifts across the province. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

    Poffenroth's office organizes and regulates elections but plays no direct role in the creation of the commission.


    But earlier this year she did remind staff in Higgs's office that the process would have to start soon.
    "I just wanted to make sure they were aware there was a time limit there that was coming up," she said.

    Commission must be in place by fall 

    Under New Brunswick's fixed-date election law, the next scheduled provincial vote will take place on Oct. 17, 2022. The commission must be in place no later than 24 months before that, meaning this fall.

    It's an automatic requirement that must go ahead given the government has not introduced any legislation to delay the timeline.

    The law that dictates the creation of the commission is also exempt from proposed new emergency powers now before the house that would let the cabinet suspend existing provincial laws.

    The timeline requires a preliminary report within 150 days of the commission being appointed, which means around mid-March 2021.


    After a 14-day public comment period, the commission must issue a final report within 30 days, which means new ridings would probably take effect in May.

    That introduces a new variable into speculation about election timing.

    If the Higgs government were defeated next spring in a budget vote and an election were triggered, parties would be contesting existing ridings while knowing that a new map with new ridings was on the verge of being finalized.

    If a campaign were triggered just a few weeks later, the new map would be in effect, and newly formed party associations would have to scramble to organize membership lists based on the new boundaries and to nominate candidates.

    Adding rural constituencies 

    In the last redrawing in 2013, rural and northern areas lost seats to reflect their shrinking population, while the Moncton area, with its booming population, gained a riding.

    The law at the time required ridings to have populations within five percent of a provincial average.


    That forced the commission to create huge rural constituencies to stay within the legal range. The village of McAdam was added to the same riding as St. Stephen and St. Andrews.
    The constituency of Southwest Miramichi-Bay du Vin runs from Boiestown to Escuminac, a drive of more than two hours.

    Francophone groups threatened legal action over the 2013 map, arguing placing the village of Memramcook in the new majority anglophone riding of Memramcook-Tantramar would reduce the voting clout of francophones.

    They dropped the legal action after the Liberal government of Brian Gallant updated the law to let riding population sizes deviate from the average by as much as 15 per cent.

    Deviations of 25 per cent are allowed in "extraordinary circumstances" to ensure effective representation of anglophone and francophone communities, making it possible to accommodate Memramcook during the next redrawing.

    The commission is to be made up of anglophone and francophone co-chairs and three to five members.


    They're chosen based on recommendations by the legislative administration committee, which, for the first time since the boundaries law was created, has no government majority and is made up of MLAs from four parties.

    Cutting MLAs to reduce political pressure 

    Earlier this year Higgs mused about how cutting the number of MLAs might reduce the political pressure on governments to spend more money on projects in ridings.

    He said at a news conference that he would leave it to the commission to consider how many there should be.

    In fact, the existing law establishes the number of ridings, not the commission, and the government hasn't introduced legislation to reduce the number from 49.

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    Jacques Poitras
    Provincial Affairs reporter
    Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 



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    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Methinks I heard another Higgy flip flop N'esy Pas?

    "Earlier this year Higgs mused about how cutting the number of MLAs might reduce the political pressure on governments to spend more money on projects in ridings."











    Lou Bell
    I expect we'll be hearing from Methinks , leader of the 4 member " Me Party " shortly . Joe and Tony and James .


    James Smythe
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Nobody knows what you’re talking about Lou, yourself included.

    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @James Smythe:
    Or cares too much either.
      
    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks little Lou needs to be quicker on the draw if she wants to read what the ghost of comments past posted about this matter N'esy Pas?




























    Joseph Vacher
    Not a good day to be a liberal in NB............ caraquet is going to lose some seats


    David Amos 

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    Reply to @Joseph Vacher: Mais Oui 
     

    Bruce Sanders
    First step is, how many MLA do we really need? NB has the third highest per capita in Canada. Not saying we need 11 (Ontario's per capita equivalent). 20 MLS is more than enough.

    Decide this first, then set up the commission . All you MLAs who do not want the number to be smaller, shame on you for wasting taxpayer money.


    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Methinks they don't know what that emotion is N'esy Pas?

























    michael levesque
    whats the point? the french vote liberal and the English vote conservative,


    Johnny Almar 
    Reply to @michael levesque: can we move the Quebec border south?


    Rob Sense
    Reply to @Johnny Almar:
    How about the western border to the east?


    Joseph Vacher 
    Reply to @michael levesque: one gets more seats then it deserves for the number of people living there



    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @michael levesque: Nay not so


    June Arnott 
    Reply to @michael levesque: not true . Stop trying to generalize everyone based on language. There is enough hatred in the world based on skin colour as it is.


    Jason Inness 
    Reply to @michael levesque: Actually, if you look at it closer, it is broken down by religious lines. Catholics generally have traditionally voted Liberal (the Catholic church used to endorse the Liberals), the Protestants and Anglicans traditionally voted PC. That is why you will notice a lot of Irish Catholics voting and running in the Liberal party. Of course, religious institutions don't endorse parties anymore, and as the population changes, the younger voters don't care about these old traditional ways of voting, which is why we are finally seeing parties like the People's Alliance and Green Party gaining support based on policies (other provinces have long had third parties, and have benefited from the variety of perspectives/policies).


    Dan Stewart
    Reply to @michael levesque: If you think that's the case you are missing some facts.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Better still ,move north Johnny !


    Jeff LeBlanc 
    Reply to @michael levesque: I voted Purple and I suspect you'll see more and more as time goes on.




























    David News
    If the purpose of redrawing the electoral map is about making sure that voting is equal across the province. Why are we wasting our time with the old and tired, first past the post style of election.
    That allows someone with 1 vote more that the other candidates to win the election. Never mind that means the could have 25% of the riding's votes +1 and win. That is a joke, there should be a requirement to have at least 50%+1 to win a seat.
    Maybe it is time to bring in 1st vote, 2nd vote... Where if no one gets sufficient, the ballots are re tabulated based on the voters second choice.
    As it stands now we do not have a democracy. we have a contrived popularity contest.


    David Amos
    Reply to @David News: Methinks you voted for Trudeau the Younger in 2015 because of his promise of electoral reform N'esy Pas?


    David News
    Reply to @David Amos: I will admit that was something that I thought was over due in being done. But did not impact the way I voted




























    James Smythe
    Sweeping police powers to card innocent citizens, mandatory vaccinations with notwithstanding clause protection, and we’re gerrymandering now too? Since when did NB vote in the Republicans?


    Johnny Almar 
    Reply to @James Smythe: Quit projecting. Democrats do that. Not Republicans.


    James Smythe 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Except that our own conservative government is batting 3/3 on all of the above this month alone, or have you been too busy hiding under the covers from the virus to notice?



    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Reply to @James Smythe: When the PANB decided to support Higgy
    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Lol.. That's a joke right Johnny?


    Samual Johnston 
    Reply to @James Smythe:s so you don't think election boundaries should ever be touched?


























    Gerry Ferguson
    Sure. Appoint a commission and pay big money that we don't have. Just leave the boundaries where they are. Most of the population centers haven't moved.


    David Peters
    Reply to @Gerry Ferguson:
    ...but then, where are they going to find patronage appointments for friends of the gov't?


    Rob Sense 
    Reply to @Gerry Ferguson:
    The Population has moved....just look at the last census. It is undemocratic comment the changing demographics. One person's vote must have the same weight either in Moncton or Mount Carleton.


    Bruce Sanders 
    Reply to @Rob Sense: There is a census next year, correct? We can wait one year. I propose (and will write to my MLA) that the number of MLAs be reduced to 20.


    Joseph Vacher 
    Reply to @Gerry Ferguson: yes they have, people have been leaving rural areas and moving into urban cities. small rural communities have a strangle on this province and are misrepresented


    David Amos
    Reply to @David Peters: BINGO


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Gerry Ferguson: Unfortunately, provincial law doesn't agree with you. It requires a commission and an overhaul every ten years - as stated in the article.


    Samual Johnston 
    Reply to @Gerry Ferguson: well why not just point us to the data showing this and we will get on board with it? and if you are right the commission would no double come to the same conclusion. Some things need to be done as they are written into law and do have a place in making our system work.





























    Johnny Almar
    Dearly beloved, we have gathered here today
    To get through this thing called life
    Electric word life it means forever and that's a mighty long time
    But I'm here to tell you there's something else (go crazy)
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    Take a look around you at least you got friends
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    Look for the purple banana
    'Til they put us in the truck, let's go
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    Make everything go wrong
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    Ben Haroldson 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: You need to be taken away


    Rob Sense 
    Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Yup


    Johnny Almar 
    Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Where do you want to go to?



    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: So says a snitch


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Talk about a can of nuts !!!!










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    Welcome to the circus  
    Methinks it would be a huge faux pas if Higgy et al were to try to settle this matter in secret N'esy Pas?


    https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/former-speaker-chris-collins-claims-he.html


    #nbpoli#cdnpoli



    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/harassment-victim-new-brunswick-legislature-former-speaker-1.5615517



    Former Speaker Chris Collins claims he was victim of retaliation by Brian Gallant

    Last year, Collins apologized in legislature for comments 'perceived as inappropriate'



    Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 17, 2020 1:32 PM AT




    Harassment allegations against Moncton MLA Chris Collins were deemed 'founded in part' by a third-party investigator. (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)

    A former Speaker of the New Brunswick legislature says he was the victim of harassment charges spurred on by former Premier Brian Gallant's desire to punish him for being too independent.

    Chris Collins, the former Liberal MLA for Moncton Centre, says in a statement of claim filed in Court of Queen's Bench that the allegations by a staffer he calls Jane Doe were originally dismissed as unfounded by Gallant in 2016.

    But he alleges that after he refused to do Gallant's bidding by letting a Liberal motion be debated in the legislature in February or March 2018, the accusation was revived and publicized to force him out. 

    "Mr. Collins was repeatedly told the premier was very mad about not being able to have this debated," says the 15-page statement of claim.

    "During the last meeting with Mr. Collins, [staffer] Carl Davies threatened Mr. Collins by saying, 'the Premier's Office can make life very difficult for you.'"


    Premier Brian Gallant declined through a spokesperson to comment on Collins's statement of claim. (CBC)

    Collins says Gallant knew "it was unlawful to collude with a complainant" about her complaint and to then publicize it.

    In a statement Wednesday, Gallant said, "I look forward to the opportunity that the legal process will afford me to dispel false claims being made and to make public the relevant factors which impacted the decisions made in response to the actions of certain parties."

    Davies said he would not comment on the allegations in the lawsuit.
    The suit also names the government and the legislature as defendants, alleging that legislature clerk Don Forestell should not have "acquiesced" to Gallant's actions. Forestell refused to comment Wednesday.


    T.J. Burke, Collins's lawyer at the time, said in the days following the revelation that the harassment 'did not occur.'  (Maria Jose Burgos/CBC)

    On April 5, 2018, Gallant told reporters in an evening conference call that Collins had been suspended from the Liberal caucus over harassment allegations.


    The complainant has never been identified publicly, though Collins's statement of claim says she had "a close, personal friendship with Premier Gallant."

    Collins filed his notice of intent to sue Gallant and the province April 3, two days short of the legal deadline for him to take the case to court.


    The speaker of the New Brunswick legislature has issued a public apology for comments that an investigation deemed as harassing. 1:39

    None of the allegations have been proven in court.

    Gallant and the province have yet to file statements of defence in the lawsuit. The province will represent Gallant in the case because he was premier at the time.

    Office of the Attorney-General spokesperson Paul Bradley said a statement of defence "is being finalized" and will be filed soon.

    Collins is not suing for defamation but for breach of employment contract, breach of privacy and abuse of authority.


    The night Gallant announced Collins's suspension, the then-premier said there had been "personality conflicts" between Collins and an employee of the legislature.

    Collins gave up his functions as Speaker but kept the title.

    His lawyer at the time, T.J. Burke, said in the days following the revelation that the harassment "did not occur."


    Chris Collins ran as an independent candidate in Moncton Centre during the 2018 provincial election and lost. (Kate Letterick/CBC News )

    But the following month the legislative administration committee, made up of MLAs from all parties, said an investigation by Leslie H. MacLeod, an adjunct professor at Osgoode  Law School, concluded the allegations were "founded in part."

    In the wake of that, Burke said Collins "accepts full responsibility for the findings that the investigator made in her report."

    In July 2018, Collins apologized publicly with his wife Lisette Richard at his side. He called it a "complete and unreserved apology," though he said the "overwhelming majority" of the allegations against him had been deemed unfounded.



    He said he had made comments to the employee that he considered "humorous and inoffensive" but that were "perceived as inappropriate."

    77 of 80 allegations were deemed unfounded

    In the new statement of claim, Collins elaborates that 77 of 80 allegations were deemed unfounded, while two instances of abuse of authority and one of harassment were deemed to have violated the harassment policy.

    The investigation concluded the harassment allegation was founded "on the balance of probabilities," it says.

    Collins's suspension from the Liberal caucus meant he was not allowed to run as a candidate for the party in his riding of Moncton Centre in that fall's provincial election. He ran as an independent against Rob McKee, who won by a wide margin.


    Chris Collins delivered his apology at the foot of the legislature with his wife, Lisette Richard, standing behind him. (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)

    According to the statement of claim, "Jane Doe" was working for Collins in August 2015 when she told a staffer for deputy premier Stephen Horsman about the alleged harassment.

    Gallant's office looked into the allegation and "Premier Gallant advised Ms. Doe that her allegations against Mr. Collins had been looked into, were unfounded and without merit and that no further action would be taken."


    Horsman and Gallant's acting chief of staff Greg Byrne both declined through a spokesperson to comment on the statement of claim Wednesday morning, as did McKee.

    Jane Doe left her job at the legislature in January 2016, the claim says.

    Two years later, it continues, Gallant's then-chief of staff, Jordan O'Brien, "aggressively pursued" getting Collins to let a motion to be introduced in the legislature that Collins says "was a breach of the rules of the House" and "constituted a personal attack" on a sitting MLA.
    O'Brien refused to comment Wednesday on the narrative Collins lays out for 2018.

    After Collins refused to allow the motion to go forward, the statement of claim says, Gallant's office brought the government's workplace harassment policy to the legislative administration committee to have it adopted as applying to members of the legislature.

    According to the filing, Gallant then "encouraged" Jane Doe to file a complaint against Collins despite knowing it had been deemed unfounded two years earlier. It says the premier's office also persuaded her to let Gallant publicize the complaint despite confidentiality rules.



    Complaint would 'go away'

    Collins also claims he only learned of the complaint after Gallant's conference call with reporters on April 5 when he met three senior Liberals, including cabinet ministers Victor Boudreau and Serge Rousselle.

    He says they told him the complaint would "go away" if he quit.

    Boudreau and Rousselle refused to comment on that allegation Wednesday.

    Collins also says Gallant persuaded him to allow the new harassment policy apply to the case, even though it did not apply retroactively to MLAs and even though the clerk of the legislature has the discretion to not investigate complaints more than a year old.

    The statement of claim quotes a letter from deputy clerk Shayne Davies saying the investigation was in the public interest "given the public disclosure of a complaint" and a subsequent decision by the legislative administration committee to have it investigated.

    The filing says a lawyer hired by the committee told its members that the seriousness of Collins's behaviour rated a one, on a scale of one to 10.

    About the Author


    Jacques Poitras
    Provincial Affairs reporter
    Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit.


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    15 Comments






    David Amos
    Methinks it would be a huge faux pas if Higgy et al were to try to settle this matter in secret N'esy Pas?











    David Amos 
    Welcome to the circus

    "Gallant and the province have yet to file statements of defence in the lawsuit. The province will represent Gallant in the case because he was premier at the time.

    Office of the Attorney-General spokesperson Paul Bradley said a statement of defence "is being finalized" and will be filed soon."







    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks everybody knows what I am up to by now N'esy Pas?






























    val harris
    Poor chris I feel bad


    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @val harris: Trust that I don't





























    Chantal LeBouthi
    When you are independent you can’t be part of a political party


    Donald Gallant
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi:  POOF The instant he referred to JWR




    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Donald Gallant: Does she ever


























    David News
    We really don't need articles like this to make up news. If the court case had been decided and the ruling was released. That would be news. This sadly is not, just accusations that have to be proven.


    Samual Johnston 
    Reply to @David News: so no reporting of crimes or the accused - just court rulings? that would be interesting now wouldn't it?



    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David News: Methinks you don't know about my lawsuit N'esy Pas?





















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    Its not safe

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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-campbellton-hospital-staff-unsafe-protocols-1.5616562





    'It's not safe': Campbellton hospital staff troubled by working conditions amid COVID-19 outbreak

    3 employees say protocols not strong enough, staff denied extra PPE


    Colin McPhail· CBC News· Posted: Jun 18, 2020 6:00 AM AT









    jacques laviolette
    Yes , where is the minister of health, when missing after is fiasco with closing ER at some hospital, people in region 5 are treated like we all have the virus when traveling outside region 5, more than 98% of residents in region 5 DON'T HAVE VIRUS, but
    Mr Premier and Dr Rusell keep saying don't leave region 5


    David Amos
    Reply to @jacques laviolette: Methinks the reason Teddy don't call and don't write me since before he was first elected years ago is because that lawyer never loved me N'esy Pas?

    Reply to @jacques laviolette: this is why borders need to be opened, this is why grandma in Amherst should be allowed seeing grandchild in sackville, no virus anywhere near that area


    • 1 hour ago
    Methinks Higgy et al must agree that the plot thickens on a daily basis N'esy Pas?



    • 40 minutes ago
    Reply to @David Amos:

    He certainly seems to be staggering from one disaster to the next disaster?
    Though, I'm *thinking* it is an Irving management style?
    I worked with another X-Irving manager and that was his management style too.

    • 40 minutes ago
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Yup



    • 34 minutes ago
    Reply to @David Amos: well said



    • 1 hour ago
    Gilles Lanteigne's office should be relocated to the centre of the area in the Campbellton hospital where the Covid-19 cases are treated. All of the staff's concerns about improved working conditions would be met and exceeded THE VERY NEXT DAY. Clearly, the problem right now is that there are no "important" people involved in the situation there, so why should they bother fixing all these issues just to save a few people from Northern NB?



    • 1 hour ago
    Reply to @Jody Guidry:

    You are making a pretty big assumption there.
    Who's to say Gilles Lanteigne is "important"?
    (Those patronage positions were only created as a cut off between politicians and operations, a highly paid scapegoat)


    • 1 hour ago
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Furthermore Gilles Lanteigne is quitting his fancy job



    • 1 hour ago
    Reply to @David Amos:

    Happy Trails...............



    • 1 hour ago
    Supplies required for safety and policies should be Public knowledge and adherence to the rules need to be mandatory and evidence of same provided online.

    The secrecy is disgusting these days.



    • 1 hour ago
    Reply to @Donald Gallant: Secrecy is a strategic tool which benefits a small number. Used in conjunction with compartmentalization of information flow to keep the right hand from understanding the movements of the left. The best countermeasure is to shine a bright light and forced accountability.


    • 1 hour ago
    Reply to @Donald Gallant: Surprise Surprise Surprise


    • 1 hour ago
    Reply to @Chris .: Chris who?



    • 2 hours ago
    Terry Tibbs
    Our ENTIRE health system is built on trust. As patients we trust that any hospital we go to will make their best effort to heal us. The healers employed by that hospital trust their employer will provide a safe place with the right tools and supplies to get their job of healing done.
    When the system breaks, through lack of trust, we are ALL in trouble.
    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: True. Leadership starts at the top. High time for ms Russell to resign. Her words for past months have been just that, just words. Higgy needs to step up too
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey:
    Wait a minute, you are mistaken, please stop and think.
    A hospital employee has 3 avenues to redress unsafe working conditions:
    1) Through their boss, who would go to the hospital administrator, to the head of Vitality, ultimately to the Minister of Health (anybody heard from, or seen, him lately?)
    2) WorkSafe NB
    3) Their Union
    When a wildcard situation exists, and they are ignored by those 3 avenues, then they go to the media, which should result in what you see here.
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks its interesting that you are asking this "Tony" dude to think N'esy Pas?
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    This kind of stuff was taught in school, or at least it was where I went to school, though in NB who knows? You couldn't ask the Minister of Education, because I pretty sure he doesn't know what is going on.
    It's all very Pythonesque.
    We also don't know how poisonous the workplace is, either way the Union, or the floor supervisor, should have made the trip to the Hospital Administrator's office with employee concerns.
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Trust that you would be amazed at the fun I am having today with Big Pharma
    Terry Tibbs 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey:
    This is not on Russell however this is on Langeigne and the Vitalite Health Care.... Want to be answerable to no one and not adhere to the protocol in place and this is what you end up with..
    Lou Bell
    Appears ignorance is the number one policy Vitalite' has in place at this Hospital ! Where's their MLA on this ? He should be questioning Vitalite" policy as this appears to be a problem in this one Hospital . Maybe they're " just too far away from Moncton " to really be bothering with !
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Lou Bell:
    Please try a little harder Lou.
    It is the Minister of Health that is DIRECTLY responsible. (You know that guy, as of late, has been missing in action since the big Higgs shuffle on hospital closings).
    All ant MLA can do is inquire at the Minister's office, which is more than likely result in nothing, the MLA being a Liberal, and the Minister, well, who knows what the missing in action Minister is about?
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: BINGO
    Christopher J Cusack
    Dear Mr Vitalité CEO Gilles Lanteigne, your frontline workers are much more apprised to how procedures play out, you should listen to them.
    David Amos
    Reply to @Christopher J Cusack: Oh So True
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Both you guys are mistaken. Gilles Lanteigne's patronage position is that of sacrificial lamb. He is the disconnect between operations and politicians. If operations go south he wears it keeping the Minister of Health's hands clean.
    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nope Methinks the buck stops with Higgy the dude who oversees Teddy Lanteigne is just a clever dude who is getting gone while the getting is good N'esy Pas?
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Do you know what happened to our Minister of Health? I trust he wasn't in a fatal car accident, or something? Maybe he doesn't love us any more?
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks that lawyer never loved me for obvious reasons N'esy Pas?
    James Smythe
    Are we sure we can’t cut their PPE supplies at least a little bit more, so that we can afford to give Irving an even bigger tax break? Apparently air conditioning in Bermuda isn’t cheap during the hot summer months. Have some compassion you guys, multibillionaires are too warm.
    David Amos 
    Reply to @James Smythe: Well put
    Dave Corbin
    Why are hospital administrators more interested in silencing workers concerns than addressing those concerns as a outbreak occurs in this hospital?
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: And why did Lanteigne tell CBC yesterday that the new cases had to do with healthcare workers, "Not being much on their guards as they should be"? He further said that because healthcare workers are tired and stressed, they "just go back to their normal habits and put down their guard." He blamed everything on the workers. Now we're hearing that the workers weren't given the resources they needed.
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: Lanteigne, yesterday: "He believes a number of factors contributed to this, including health-care workers taking breaks together throughout their shifts." Workers, today: "COVID-19 unit staff were told to have take breaks inside a small office, where a two-metre distance could not be met — a break room that was used by at least one staff member who has tested positive, one employee says."
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: money
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks everything political is always about the money everybody knows that N'esy Pas?
     
    SarahRose Werner
    The state of emergency was declared three months ago. Hospitals were supposed to have gotten ready to deal with the first wave of COVID-19. Now we're finding out that they apparently aren't ready at all. It's pure luck that the first wave wasn't worse than it was! I suspect that the problems we're seeing at the Campbellton Regional aren't limited to that one hospital and rather reflect the state of preparedness - or lack thereof - in hospitals across the province.
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Ms. Russell and Higgy said the province health system is prepared. This is results of their preparedness.
    Let’s open borders and everything up, the nonsense has gone on long enough.
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: How does opening the borders improve the preparedness of the hospitals?
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: it doesn’t
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Sorry Tony , ignorance is not an option ! Any other , more sensible suggestions ?
    Bruce Normand
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: I would not waste anytime replying to SarahRose….it must be sad to look forward to these stories to be posted so that she can jump in.....if she ever went into hiding, one sure way to get her to come out would be by posting a NB Covid story! LOL
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Bruce Normand: Methinks the lady doesn't care what many of think N'esy Pas?
    Bruce Normand
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks that if you are going to have a catch phrase, that you at least use the proper spelling, n'est ce pas?
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Bruce Normand: Methinks you do not understand Chiac or how the Internet works N'esy Pas?

    Bruce Normand
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks I know enough about chiac to say that your butchering of a perfectly useful french phrase is not part of that dialect, so that is the first portion answered. In terms of the second, you appear to have much more practice than I, based on your recent activity, so perhaps you could enlighten me? Or, no, scotch that. No need. 









    is staff still working shifts then travelling home to all corners of the province?
    Reply to @Toby Tolly:
    And probably not just this province.
    Reply to @Toby Tolly: yes as per the case in Fredericton. But a grandma in Amherst can’t visit her grandchild over in sackville NB for an afternoon.
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Healthcare workers being available to provide healthcare benefits everyone in that health zone. Grandma's visit benefits two people, grandma and grandchild.
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: your point ?
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: She just made it . too bad you can't understand it .
    Reply to @Lou Bell: lightweight
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks Higgy et al knows I am a Grandpa who can't visit his daughter and grandchildren in Amherst on Fathers Day and he don't care N'esy Pas?
    if the CEO of the health unit says things are good and the employees provide evidence to show they are not it is a good thing he has resigned but why not make his departure immediate?
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: BINGO
    Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield:
    And who would you suggest take over the position ? Perhaps Brian Gallant would like to return to the province ? No wait.... Victor Boudreau would fit right in and fix the mess no problem..
    I was in Fredericton on the weekend at the Blue Canoe and there were cars from Ontario and I was behind them when they went into the restaurant no mask no questions asked and when I went back outside the men where talking about how easy it was to get across the N.B. border so if we allow people in the virus will spread.I think that people that cross our borders should have to sign a paper with address ,where they are going and how long they are staying because N.B. will be in trouble ..
    Reply to @Belinda Anderson: So why didn't you take their plate numbers and report them if you were so concerned ? And how were you close enough to get in on their conversation ? Or was this just a fabrication to make some kind of point ?
     
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks some folks say snitches get stitches I say they should just get sued N'esy Pas?
    WorksafeNB needs to close that Campbellton hospital if Vitalité can't operate it safely.
    Reply to @Rob Belyea: Which would then require shipping COVID-19 patients from Zone 5 to hospitals in other zones.
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Rob Belyea: Oh My methinks that taking things a little too far N'esy Pas?
    This is what happens when journalists give terrified staff the floor without understanding the science: fogging glasses aren’t a sign that you can “breathe in droplets”... it means water vapor is escaping from your mask as it should, for example. The PPE protocols are sound, when followed. But they’re also exhausting to follow for months on end, and “shortcuts” become commonplace by staff just to help us get through. This is a good reminder to stay vigilant.
    Reply to @Holly Mossing: Maybe the staff need some refreshers on PPE from staff educators.
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Jake Quinlan: Good point
    These are unionized employees, society needs to remember this when people start attacking unions again.
    Reply to @Winston Gray: Not rhetorical, but can you explain the relevance of unionized employees vs. non-unionized in this situation ?
     
    Reply to @Jake Quinlan: I just want people to remember this moment that unions can try to protect workers, but they often can't.

    There are a lot of anti-unionists who think that unions are more powerful than they are, are more rich than they are, and are the cause of all our problems.

    In the reality Unions help workers and restore the balance.
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Winston Gray: Dream on
    There seems to be a systemic issue with Vitalité and it's operation of the Campbellton Regional Hospital and adjacent psychiatric hospital (Restigouche hospital centre) In the last 12 -18 month we have heard through media about proposed half a BILLION dollar Class Action law suit against RHC, the Campbellton ER, obstetrics and other standard services closing for various reasons since the Fall, the apparent internal operational disagreements and resignations within the Board of Directors for Vitalite apparently related to Campbellton operations, the Ombudsmen report detailing concerning issues within the RHC regarding care of patients, deaths of patients within the psychiatric hospital and now COVID related concerns (infections, locums.)

    Soothing eloquent sounding words are cheap and superficial statistics are easily tweaked and massaged so as to present a positive narrative for the sender of the message.

    How exactly does Vitalité explain the apparent large number of staff infected from a relatively small number of known COVID cases in hospital (many other hospitals in Canada to compare to on this?). You can't simply say 'we are confident in our approach' while at the same time taking severe steps like CLOSING the emergency services and large chunks of the hospital and shipping emergency cases to an adjacent Region. It doesn't add up.

    At some point, this organization requires external objective review. As a taxpayer I am appalled that this has been permitted to continue as long as It has.

    If the powers that be are unwilling to initiate such a review - then I would ask: what critical event(s) must happen before you will consider this?

    To zone 5 front line staff with the courage to speak out, thank you.
    Reply to @Luna Of Of the Stars: Where there's signs of smoke there is usually fire.
    Looking at it in a general sense there certainly seems to be a problem or multiple problems. Regional? Local? Management? Clinical? Staffing? Infrastructure?

    The question is what are they and how confident are we that any potentially problematic system is able to adequately and objectively assess and fix itself. In general, those systems which help create and perpetuate a problem are usually poor candidates for fixing said problem!!

    What is clear is that taxpayers continue to fund this situation. Lets hope it is money well spent.
    Reply to @Chris .: I wonder if those "in charge" of the other hospitals around NB say a little thank you to their deity of choice each night that their building has been spared.....lol. I would :-)
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Luna Of Of the Stars: Do you register to vote with that name???
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Jake Quinlan: What if they have no deity to thank?
    Terry Tibbs 
    Aren't we forgetting somebody?
    If a place of work is unsafe, isn't that determination up to WorkSafe NB?
    Might as well get ALL concerned/should be concerned involved?
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Surely you jest
    Terry Tibbs 
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Might just as well throw some more confused sorta government employees at it?
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur
    There are too many inferior grades of "surgical masks". They are a very deregulated product and even the top-of-the-line surgical mask does not come close to filtering airborne particulate as per a 3M respiratory protector. I would not work in a Covid-19 infected workplace without a daily supply of N-95 masks at my side.
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Derek Grant: Exactly
    doug kirby
    Seems someone hasn’t stayed in the loop with the mask requirement. It’s been stated since the beginning which masks must be used. So public health obviously make their own rules up. Here is another example of staff stating their concern but those in charge decide they aren’t exactly telling the truth..this is the exact same atmosphere that’s happened in all long term care homes...someone on the outside are basically telling staff it’s good enough what safety precautions your allowed to take...N.S. did the same with Northwood...their public health called the employees fear mongers...so good luck workers...your on your own however you can do it...be the voice for those affected
    David Amos
    Reply to @doug kirby: Well put
    Someone in charge of the Campbellton hospital should loose their high paying job.
    Campbellton lives matter.
    Terry Tibbs  
    Reply to @Bill Hamilton:
    An interesting thought.
    Just who is in "charge" at ANY hospital you visit? The "healers", or the politically appointed desk operating do nothings? Maybe a combination of both? If it is a combination how is it weighted? There is a major problem here (and I think in most hospitals), there also seems to be many secrets.
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Well put.
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Teddy and his boss Higgy are the dudes in charge lately N'esy Pas?
    Terry Tibbs 
    Reply to @David Amos:
    And neither one fit to be put in charge of a push-bike.
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Where did Jake go?
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: BTW I just got another interesting call this time it was from a former MLA about something I was dealing with a couple of days ago








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    Longtime PC MLA stepping down this fall

    Byelection to fill Bruce Northrup's soon-to-be vacated seat set for October, MLA says


    Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jun 18, 2020 8:27 PM AT



    PC MLA Bruce Northrup says he will retire from politics in October. (Graham Thompson/CBC)



    One of the longest-serving Progressive Conservative MLAs in the New Brunswick legislature says he'll bow out of provincial politics this fall.

    Bruce Northrup, who was first elected in 2006 and was minister of natural resources and later of public safety in the David Alward government, plans to resign as MLA for Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins before this fall.

    Northrup spoke out publicly in February against a plan by the Higgs government, later cancelled, to close the emergency departments at night in six small hospitals, including the one in Sussex.


    But Northrup told CBC News his decision was entirely about wanting more family time, including with two grandchildren — one born three weeks ago — he has not been able to see because of COVID-19 restrictions.

    "The time just feels right. It's hard to explain anything beyond that," he said.

    "What I've done the last 14 years is put politics first and family second. I want to change that around and put family first and politics down at the bottom of the agenda."



    PC MLA Bruce Northrup says byelections will be held in October to fill his seat and the other two vacancies. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)


    He said not being able to see his grandchildren "kind of added to things."

    On Thursday, Northrup voted against proposed legislation to eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions from the policy on mandatory vaccinations for school children. Last summer, he called the issue "probably the biggest struggle I've had, personally" as an MLA.

    Northrup's departure would make it even harder for the Higgs government to pass legislation in the house.

    Byelections

    The Progressive Conservatives have 20 MLAs, the Liberals have 19 and the People's Alliance and Greens each have three. There is one independent MLA and two vacancies.

    But Northrup said he will try to time his departure so that a byelection can be held in Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins at the same time two other byelections are expected this fall.

    He plans to sit on legislative committees this summer.
    A bill passed in March postponed two required byelections in the Saint Croix and Shediac Bay-Dieppe ridings. The bill said they must be held at the latest 30 days before the start of a new session of the legislature this fall.

    Northrup said the plan now within the government is to hold them in mid-October, and he hopes his replacement can be elected then too, but planning for that is "at the early stages."

    Northrup was first elected in 2006 and was re-elected in 2010, 2014 and 2018.

    He became natural resources minister in the Alward government in 2010
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    While he supported shale gas development, in 2011 he alleged Windsor Energy broke the law by conducting seismic testing in Sussex without the town's consent, an allegation that prompted the company to sue him for defamation.

    The New Brunswick Court of Appeal eventually ruled that Northrup's comments were factual, so he could not be sued for what he said.

    Northrup was later shuffled out of the natural resources portfolio. In 2018, he told CBC News he was moved after J.D. Irving Ltd. pressured then-premier Alward over Northrup's reluctance to increase the amount of Crown wood logged by industry, something Alward's advisers said was not the case.




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    David Amos
    Surprise Surprise Surprise 
     
     
     
     
     
    David Amos
    Methinks Higgy et al know that this announcement has a lot to do with the Bructer and Cardy sending me butter tarts in the mail before the last election which caused me to run against him N'esy Pas?
     


    David Amos
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    Methinks everyone is waiting with bated breath the hear little Lou's spin on this revelation N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
    Lou Bell
    A loner who went to the beat of his own drum !
     
     
     



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    'It's not safe': Campbellton hospital staff troubled by working conditions amid COVID-19 outbreak

    3 employees say protocols not strong enough, staff denied extra PPE


    Colin McPhail· CBC News· Posted: Jun 18, 2020 6:00 AM AT



    Some employees at the Campbellton Regional Hospital are calling for better personal protective equipment after at least 10 co-workers test positive for COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)


    Some staff who have worked on the COVID-19 unit of the Campbellton Regional Hospital say they do not feel safe under the existing safety protocols.

    "It's not safe. I don't feel safe," one employee said of the working conditions inside the hospital at the centre of the outbreak of coronavirus in the Zone 5 health region.

    Three health-care workers are speaking out as the number of infected staff and those forced into isolation grows. CBC News has agreed not to identify the workers, who say they have been warned by Vitalité not to talk to the news media.



    As of Wednesday, 10 employees had tested positive for the virus and 31 others are self-isolating. Vitalité Health Network announced Saturday that the hospital is effectively on lockdown in closing its emergency room, cancelling non-urgent services and prohibiting visits.

    The presence of COVID-19 in the hospital has led staff to question the effectiveness of key protocols to reduce the risks of transmission and call on Vitalité for change. The employees say staff have been refused extra protection when treating COVID-19 patients, and lax protocols create a risk of spread throughout the hospital.

    The employees say they're fearful of bringing the virus home to vulnerable family members.

    "Do I want to bring that home to them?" said one employee. "Adults are having a hard time breaking the fever from it. I don't want to see my kids fighting this virus."
    They say their concerns are shared by the majority of staff.

    Vitalité CEO Gilles Lanteigne said during a virtual media scrum Wednesday the health authority is "very, very confident" in the current controls and continues to follow best practices.

    "I think what you're hearing by some of the staff is that they're worried, they're concerned," he said. "That's why our role is to reassure them that the techniques and their training are good."

    Employees describe risks

    In late May, after two weeks of no reported active cases in the province, Public Health announced a new cluster of the virus in the Campbellton region. It was linked to a medical professional who travelled to Quebec and didn't self-isolate upon his return, but he is challenging the assertion and seeking an apology from the premier.

    The outbreak has resulted in more than 40 new cases, a handful of new hospitalizations — there are four currently — and New Brunswick's first two COVID-related deaths.



    The Campbellton Regional Hospital has been at the centre of the cluster of COVID-19 cases in Zone 5. (Shane Fowler/CBC)


    The three employees all described the same series of protocols they viewed as problematic as the cluster grew and made its way into the hospital. The most concerning include:
    • COVID-19 unit staff shared the same locker room with the rest of hospital staff.
    • COVID-19 unit staff were refused hair and shoe coverings — protection, they say, would reduce the risk of spread beyond the ward.
    • COVID-19 unit staff were told to have take breaks inside a small office, where a two-metre distance could not be met — a break room that was used by at least one staff member who has tested positive, one employee says.
    • COVID-19 unit staff have moved to other units after treating patients.
    • as of last week, there was no screening of employees, such as taking temperatures or symptom questions, when entering the building.
    • Staff have been refused wider use of N95 masks after making an official request to their employer.
    Two of the issues have recently changed: staff can take their breaks in a larger room, and Vitalité said it has stopped, as of last week, rotating COVID-19 unit staff to other wards.

    One employee said COVID-19 unit staff would change gloves between patients but not gowns, which, they say, does not follow standard PPE procedure. Surgical or procedure masks are changed every break, they said, and replacement masks aren't on the unit.

    "I had a positive COVID patient cough in my direct line of fire, right in my face, and it was not the patient's fault," one employee said. "[The supervisor] said, 'You should've put a mask on their face, and I said, 'How am I supposed to do that when there aren't replacement masks on the unit?"

    Lanteigne confirmed Wednesday at least one of the infected employees had not set foot in the COVID-19 unit.



    Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of Vitalité Health Network, says he's 'very, very confident' in the current prevention measures at the hospital. (Radio-Canada)


    He said a "number of factors" have contributed to the spread in the hospital, but staff have not been "on their guards as much as they should be" in the break room, describing their attitude as "pre-pandemic." He did not elaborate on the other possible factors.

    N95 mask use

    The employees say the N95 mask issue, in particular, is important to concerned staff. Staff are only permitted the masks during certain procedures that produce airborne droplets.

    The masks filter out 95 per cent of airborne particles and are considered critical personal protective equipment for front-line health-care workers.

    "I don't understand why we aren't wearing them," said an employee involved in more routine patient care, saying their options are a mask with a face shield or a surgical mask with goggles.

    "I, personally, wear glasses, and my glasses fog up very easily wearing masks, the face shield especially, because all the air just goes up into the face shield and fogs my glasses. If the air is escaping the regular mask, that means we can breathe in [droplets]."



    Hospital staff are calling on their employer and Public Health for wider use of the N95 mask. (Justin Fraser/CBC)


    Vitalité has told staff surgical and procedure masks suffice when treating patients, and N95 masks should be limited to "specific cases, for example, if an aerosol generating medical procedure (AGMP) is performed on a patient of if a patient is undergoing a diagnostic bronchoscopy."

    That was the response staff received from Vitalité and subsequently leaked to CBC News.

    "In most cases, the full PPE including gloves, gown, surgery or procedure mask and eye protection is appropriate when providing care to a COVID-19 patient or a suspected COVID-19 patient," said the statement attributed to Gisèle Beaulieu, vice-president of performance and quality and vice-chair of the infection prevention and control committee.

    The health authority maintained Wednesday it has followed the prevention and control protocols set by the provincial Public Health and the Public Health Agency of Canada.

    'That's been the advice during the entire pandemic'

    Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer of health, said during Monday's COVID-19 briefing the use of N95 masks for specific procedures is in line with Public Health guidance and the word of the federal health agency.

    "That's been the advice during the entire pandemic."



    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer, says the supply of PPE in New Brunswick health-care centres is well-maintained. (Government of New Brunswick)


    Russell said an aerosol-generating procedure produces droplets that become airborne, creating a risk of transmission, and staff have access to the masks in those instances.

    Both Russell and Lanteigne said the supply of PPE is well maintained and that Vitalité is reviewing its prevention procedures.

    PPE directive

    A March 31 memo, which was signed off on by 23 health officials, offered direction to all New Brunswick health-care facilities on the use of PPE and cautioned against the liberal use of masks.

    The memo said the guidelines at the two regional health authorities for managing COVID-19 patients complied with federal guidelines.

    "Liberalizing use of PPE beyond our current guidelines will only serve to provide a false sense of security and rapidly exhaust a finite supply," it said.

    On N95 masks, the memo stated they "do not provide superior protection" against COVID-19 except during medical procedures that trigger aerosol spray from patients.




    Pictured is the March 31 memo about personal protective equipment protocol. (Submitted)


    A revised memo, issued in early April, clarified that N95 masks "must be used" in any room where aerosol-generating procedures "are being performed, are frequent or probable, or with any intubated patients."

    It was agreed to by the province, the two health authorities, Medavie Health Services NB, as well as the New Brunswick Nurses Union, the Canadian Union of Public Employees and the New Brunswick Union.

    The memos came as the number of COVID-19 cases in New Brunswick was growing and after the province had difficulty securing N95 masks from a U.S. manufacturer.
    Asked if the protocols should be changed at this point in the pandemic, considering the province's active cases are almost entirely in the Campbellton region, Public Health maintained the directives in the memo remain best practice.

    Bruce Macfarlane, communications director for the Department of Health, said in an emailed statement on June 12 that a joint statement between employers and unions "set the bar high" for appropriate and safe PPE use — requirements also reviewed by WorkSafeNB.

    "We understand the anxiety that this outbreak is causing amongst staff and have been assured that Vitalité is having discussions with our workers in Campbellton to better understand how transmission occurred in the facility in order to address any gaps that may exist," Macfarlane said.

    Testing blitz

    Vitalité engaged in a testing blitz over the weekend and into Monday, testing 930 of the more than 1,200 employees between the Campbellton Regional Hospital and the adjacent Restigouche Hospital Centre.

    Lanteigne said Wednesday about half of the 41 employees now off work will return by next Friday. He said the majority of affected hospital staff are nurses.

    The nurses union told Radio-Canada on Friday that it's had many discussions regarding PPE with the province's COVID-19 task force, and president Paula Doucet said the current use of N95 "has been the advice during the entire pandemic."

    The union has not responded to a CBC News question on whether the policy would be revisited in light of its members' concerns.




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    David Amos
    Methinks Higgy et al must agree that the plot thickens on a daily basis N'esy Pas?


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    He certainly seems to be staggering from one disaster to the next disaster?
    Though, I'm *thinking* it is an Irving management style?
    I worked with another X-Irving manager and that was his management style too.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Yup


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @David Amos: well said






















    jacques laviolette
    Yes , where is the minister of health, when missing after is fiasco with closing ER at some hospital, people in region 5 are treated like we all have the virus when traveling outside region 5, more than 98% of residents in region 5 DON'T HAVE VIRUS, but
    Mr Premier and Dr Rusell keep saying don't leave region 5


    David Amos
    Reply to @jacques laviolette: Methinks the reason Teddy don't call and don't write me since before he was first elected years ago is because that lawyer never loved me N'esy Pas?


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @jacques laviolette: this is why borders need to be opened, this is why grandma in Amherst should be allowed seeing grandchild in sackville, no virus anywhere near that area



























    Jody Guidry
    Gilles Lanteigne's office should be relocated to the centre of the area in the Campbellton hospital where the Covid-19 cases are treated. All of the staff's concerns about improved working conditions would be met and exceeded THE VERY NEXT DAY. Clearly, the problem right now is that there are no "important" people involved in the situation there, so why should they bother fixing all these issues just to save a few people from Northern NB?


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Jody Guidry:
    You are making a pretty big assumption there.
    Who's to say Gilles Lanteigne is "important"?
    (Those patronage positions were only created as a cut off between politicians and operations, a highly paid scapegoat)


    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Furthermore Gilles Lanteigne is quitting his fancy job


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Happy Trails...............



























    Donald Gallant
    Supplies required for safety and policies should be Public knowledge and adherence to the rules need to be mandatory and evidence of same provided online.

    The secrecy is disgusting these days.


    Chris
    Reply to @Donald Gallant: Secrecy is a strategic tool which benefits a small number. Used in conjunction with compartmentalization of information flow to keep the right hand from understanding the movements of the left. The best countermeasure is to shine a bright light and forced accountability.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Donald Gallant: Surprise Surprise Surprise


    David Amos
    Reply to @Chris .: Chris who?



























    Terry Tibbs
    Our ENTIRE health system is built on trust. As patients we trust that any hospital we go to will make their best effort to heal us. The healers employed by that hospital trust their employer will provide a safe place with the right tools and supplies to get their job of healing done.
    When the system breaks, through lack of trust, we are ALL in trouble.


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: True. Leadership starts at the top. High time for ms Russell to resign. Her words for past months have been just that, just words. Higgy needs to step up too

    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey:
    Wait a minute, you are mistaken, please stop and think.
    A hospital employee has 3 avenues to redress unsafe working conditions:
    1) Through their boss, who would go to the hospital administrator, to the head of Vitality, ultimately to the Minister of Health (anybody heard from, or seen, him lately?)
    2) WorkSafe NB
    3) Their Union
    When a wildcard situation exists, and they are ignored by those 3 avenues, then they go to the media, which should result in what you see here.

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks its interesting that you are asking this "Tony" dude to think N'esy Pas?

    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    This kind of stuff was taught in school, or at least it was where I went to school, though in NB who knows? You couldn't ask the Minister of Education, because I pretty sure he doesn't know what is going on.
    It's all very Pythonesque.
    We also don't know how poisonous the workplace is, either way the Union, or the floor supervisor, should have made the trip to the Hospital Administrator's office with employee concerns.

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Trust that you would be amazed at the fun I am having today with Big Pharma

    Terry Tibbs    
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    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey:
    This is not on Russell however this is on Langeigne and the Vitalite Health Care.... Want to be answerable to no one and not adhere to the protocol in place and this is what you end up with..


    Mack Leigh
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey:
    This is not on Russell however this is on Langeigne and the Vitalite Health Care.... Want to be answerable to no one and not adhere to the protocol in place and this is what you end up with.. 


























    Lou Bell
    Appears ignorance is the number one policy Vitalite' has in place at this Hospital ! Where's their MLA on this ? He should be questioning Vitalite" policy as this appears to be a problem in this one Hospital . Maybe they're " just too far away from Moncton " to really be bothering with !

    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Lou Bell:
    Please try a little harder Lou.
    It is the Minister of Health that is DIRECTLY responsible. (You know that guy, as of late, has been missing in action since the big Higgs shuffle on hospital closings).
    All ant MLA can do is inquire at the Minister's office, which is more than likely result in nothing, the MLA being a Liberal, and the Minister, well, who knows what the missing in action Minister is about?

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: BINGO




























    Christopher J Cusack
    Dear Mr Vitalité CEO Gilles Lanteigne, your frontline workers are much more apprised to how procedures play out, you should listen to them.

    David Amos
    Reply to @Christopher J Cusack: Oh So True


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Both you guys are mistaken. Gilles Lanteigne's patronage position is that of sacrificial lamb. He is the disconnect between operations and politicians. If operations go south he wears it keeping the Minister of Health's hands clean.

    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nope Methinks the buck stops with Higgy the dude who oversees Teddy Lanteigne is just a clever dude who is getting gone while the getting is good N'esy Pas?


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Do you know what happened to our Minister of Health? I trust he wasn't in a fatal car accident, or something? Maybe he doesn't love us any more?

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks that lawyer never loved me for obvious reasons N'esy Pas?



























    James Smythe
    Are we sure we can’t cut their PPE supplies at least a little bit more, so that we can afford to give Irving an even bigger tax break? Apparently air conditioning in Bermuda isn’t cheap during the hot summer months. Have some compassion you guys, multibillionaires are too warm.

    David Amos 
    Reply to @James Smythe: Well put




























    Dave Corbin
    Why are hospital administrators more interested in silencing workers concerns than addressing those concerns as a outbreak occurs in this hospital?
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: And why did Lanteigne tell CBC yesterday that the new cases had to do with healthcare workers, "Not being much on their guards as they should be"? He further said that because healthcare workers are tired and stressed, they "just go back to their normal habits and put down their guard." He blamed everything on the workers. Now we're hearing that the workers weren't given the resources they needed.


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: Lanteigne, yesterday: "He believes a number of factors contributed to this, including health-care workers taking breaks together throughout their shifts." Workers, today: "COVID-19 unit staff were told to have take breaks inside a small office, where a two-metre distance could not be met — a break room that was used by at least one staff member who has tested positive, one employee says."


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: money

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks everything political is always about the money everybody knows that N'esy Pas?
     

























    SarahRose Werner
    The state of emergency was declared three months ago. Hospitals were supposed to have gotten ready to deal with the first wave of COVID-19. Now we're finding out that they apparently aren't ready at all. It's pure luck that the first wave wasn't worse than it was! I suspect that the problems we're seeing at the Campbellton Regional aren't limited to that one hospital and rather reflect the state of preparedness - or lack thereof - in hospitals across the province.


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Ms. Russell and Higgy said the province health system is prepared. This is results of their preparedness.
    Let’s open borders and everything up, the nonsense has gone on long enough.


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: How does opening the borders improve the preparedness of the hospitals?



    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: it doesn’t


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Sorry Tony , ignorance is not an option ! Any other , more sensible suggestions ?

    Bruce Normand
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: I would not waste anytime replying to SarahRose….it must be sad to look forward to these stories to be posted so that she can jump in.....if she ever went into hiding, one sure way to get her to come out would be by posting a NB Covid story! LOL

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Bruce Normand: Methinks the lady doesn't care what many of think N'esy Pas?

    Bruce Normand
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks that if you are going to have a catch phrase, that you at least use the proper spelling, n'est ce pas?

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Bruce Normand: Methinks you do not understand Chiac or how the Internet works N'esy Pas?

    Bruce Normand
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks I know enough about chiac to say that your butchering of a perfectly useful french phrase is not part of that dialect, so that is the first portion answered. In terms of the second, you appear to have much more practice than I, based on your recent activity, so perhaps you could enlighten me? Or, no, scotch that. No need. 




























    Toby Tolly
    is staff still working shifts then travelling home to all corners of the province?


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Toby Tolly:
    And probably not just this province.


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Toby Tolly: yes as per the case in Fredericton. But a grandma in Amherst can’t visit her grandchild over in sackville NB for an afternoon.


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Healthcare workers being available to provide healthcare benefits everyone in that health zone. Grandma's visit benefits two people, grandma and grandchild.


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: your point ?


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: She just made it . too bad you can't understand it .


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Lou Bell: lightweight

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks Higgy et al knows I am a Grandpa who can't visit his daughter and grandchildren in Amherst on Fathers Day and he don't care N'esy Pas?

























    Corrie Weatherfield
    if the CEO of the health unit says things are good and the employees provide evidence to show they are not it is a good thing he has resigned but why not make his departure immediate?

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: BINGO


    Mack Leigh
    Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield:
    And who would you suggest take over the position ? Perhaps Brian Gallant would like to return to the province ? No wait.... Victor Boudreau would fit right in and fix the mess no problem..

























    Belinda Anderson
    I was in Fredericton on the weekend at the Blue Canoe and there were cars from Ontario and I was behind them when they went into the restaurant no mask no questions asked and when I went back outside the men where talking about how easy it was to get across the N.B. border so if we allow people in the virus will spread.I think that people that cross our borders should have to sign a paper with address ,where they are going and how long they are staying because N.B. will be in trouble ..


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Belinda Anderson: So why didn't you take their plate numbers and report them if you were so concerned ? And how were you close enough to get in on their conversation ? Or was this just a fabrication to make some kind of point ?

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks some folks say snitches get stitches I say they should just get sued N'esy Pas?


























    Rob Belyea
    WorksafeNB needs to close that Campbellton hospital if Vitalité can't operate it safely.


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Rob Belyea: Which would then require shipping COVID-19 patients from Zone 5 to hospitals in other zones.

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Rob Belyea: Oh My methinks that taking things a little too far N'esy Pas?
















    Holly Mossing
    This is what happens when journalists give terrified staff the floor without understanding the science: fogging glasses aren’t a sign that you can “breathe in droplets”... it means water vapor is escaping from your mask as it should, for example. The PPE protocols are sound, when followed. But they’re also exhausting to follow for months on end, and “shortcuts” become commonplace by staff just to help us get through. This is a good reminder to stay vigilant.


    Jake Quinlan
    Reply to @Holly Mossing: Maybe the staff need some refreshers on PPE from staff educators.

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Jake Quinlan: Good point


























    Winston Gray
    These are unionized employees, society needs to remember this when people start attacking unions again.


    Jake Quinlan
    Reply to @Winston Gray: Not rhetorical, but can you explain the relevance of unionized employees vs. non-unionized in this situation ?

    Winston Gray 
    Reply to @Jake Quinlan: I just want people to remember this moment that unions can try to protect workers, but they often can't.

    There are a lot of anti-unionists who think that unions are more powerful than they are, are more rich than they are, and are the cause of all our problems.

    In the reality Unions help workers and restore the balance.

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Winston Gray: Dream on

























    Luna Of Of the Stars
    There seems to be a systemic issue with Vitalité and it's operation of the Campbellton Regional Hospital and adjacent psychiatric hospital (Restigouche hospital centre) In the last 12 -18 month we have heard through media about proposed half a BILLION dollar Class Action law suit against RHC, the Campbellton ER, obstetrics and other standard services closing for various reasons since the Fall, the apparent internal operational disagreements and resignations within the Board of Directors for Vitalite apparently related to Campbellton operations, the Ombudsmen report detailing concerning issues within the RHC regarding care of patients, deaths of patients within the psychiatric hospital and now COVID related concerns (infections, locums.)

    Soothing eloquent sounding words are cheap and superficial statistics are easily tweaked and massaged so as to present a positive narrative for the sender of the message.

    How exactly does Vitalité explain the apparent large number of staff infected from a relatively small number of known COVID cases in hospital (many other hospitals in Canada to compare to on this?). You can't simply say 'we are confident in our approach' while at the same time taking severe steps like CLOSING the emergency services and large chunks of the hospital and shipping emergency cases to an adjacent Region. It doesn't add up.

    At some point, this organization requires external objective review. As a taxpayer I am appalled that this has been permitted to continue as long as It has.

    If the powers that be are unwilling to initiate such a review - then I would ask: what critical event(s) must happen before you will consider this?

    To zone 5 front line staff with the courage to speak out, thank you.


    Chris 
    Reply to @Luna Of Of the Stars: Where there's signs of smoke there is usually fire.
    Looking at it in a general sense there certainly seems to be a problem or multiple problems. Regional? Local? Management? Clinical? Staffing? Infrastructure?

    The question is what are they and how confident are we that any potentially problematic system is able to adequately and objectively assess and fix itself. In general, those systems which help create and perpetuate a problem are usually poor candidates for fixing said problem!!

    What is clear is that taxpayers continue to fund this situation. Lets hope it is money well spent.


    Jake Quinlan
    Reply to @Chris .: I wonder if those "in charge" of the other hospitals around NB say a little thank you to their deity of choice each night that their building has been spared.....lol. I would :-)

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Luna Of Of the Stars: Do you register to vote with that name???

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Jake Quinlan: What if they have no deity to thank?

























    Terry Tibbs 
    Aren't we forgetting somebody?
    If a place of work is unsafe, isn't that determination up to WorkSafe NB?
    Might as well get ALL concerned/should be concerned involved?

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Surely you jest

    Terry Tibbs 
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Might just as well throw some more confused sorta government employees at it?

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur



























    Derek Grant
    There are too many inferior grades of "surgical masks". They are a very deregulated product and even the top-of-the-line surgical mask does not come close to filtering airborne particulate as per a 3M respiratory protector. I would not work in a Covid-19 infected workplace without a daily supply of N-95 masks at my side.

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Derek Grant: Exactly


























    doug kirby
    Seems someone hasn’t stayed in the loop with the mask requirement. It’s been stated since the beginning which masks must be used. So public health obviously make their own rules up. Here is another example of staff stating their concern but those in charge decide they aren’t exactly telling the truth..this is the exact same atmosphere that’s happened in all long term care homes...someone on the outside are basically telling staff it’s good enough what safety precautions your allowed to take...N.S. did the same with Northwood...their public health called the employees fear mongers...so good luck workers...your on your own however you can do it...be the voice for those affected

    David Amos
    Reply to @doug kirby: Well put

























    Bill Hamilton
    Someone in charge of the Campbellton hospital should loose their high paying job.
    Campbellton lives matter.

    Terry Tibbs  
    Reply to @Bill Hamilton:
    An interesting thought.
    Just who is in "charge" at ANY hospital you visit? The "healers", or the politically appointed desk operating do nothings? Maybe a combination of both? If it is a combination how is it weighted? There is a major problem here (and I think in most hospitals), there also seems to be many secrets.


    Jake Quinlan
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Well put.

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Teddy and his boss Higgy are the dudes in charge lately N'esy Pas?

    Terry Tibbs 
    Reply to @David Amos:
    And neither one fit to be put in charge of a push-bike.

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Where did Jake go?

    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: BTW I just got another interesting call this time it was from a former MLA about something I was dealing with a couple of days ago





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    Content disabled
    Reply to @Ray Bungay: Methinks your neighbours Gordon Dalzell and the Irving Clan should remember me quite well Perhaps you should say Hey to them for me sometime N'esy Pas?



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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/air-pollution-climate-change-regulator-oil-refinery-explosion-greenhouse-gas-1.5617816


    Request for public input on refinery pollution levels gets one response

    Gordon Dalzell asked for, and received, lower sulphur and nitrogen oxide levels


    Connell Smith· CBC News· Posted: Jun 19, 2020 6:00 AM AT



    Irving Oil Refinery neighbour Gordon Dalzell was the only one who responded to a request for comment on the company's application for a new five-year air quality operating permit. (Connell Smith, CBC)

    When New Brunswick environment officials asked for public submissions on air pollution from the largest oil refinery in Canada, just one person stepped forward.

    But that one hand–written response from refinery neighbour Gordon Dalzell's to Irving Oil's application for a new five-year air quality operating permit was 200 pages long.

    He asked that sulphur dioxide and nitrogen oxide emission limits be stricter. And, he got it.
    The new limits, 4,500 tonnes annually in the case of each, are down 13 and 18 per cent respectively.
    The past five years have seen some serious problems at the refinery. They include a massive, October 2018 explosion and a butane leak earlier the same year that saw city streets blocked for days and 84 residents forced from their homes.

    Dalzell asked environment officials why there had been no warning letters, orders or penalties issued by the department in connection with those failures.

    The response: No enforcement actions or investigations were required. The refinery was meeting the requirements of its approval conditions at the time of the incidents and regulators are "satisfied with the manner in which occurrences were managed."


    The Irving Oil Refinery in Saint John is the largest in Canada. Sulphur and nitrogen oxide limits will be lowered under the terms of the company's new air quality operating permit. (Roger Cosman, CBC)

    In all, the department responded to 33 separate issues raised by Dalzell, a longtime clean air advocate, whose home is less than a block from the refinery fence.

    They include the lack of access to the refinery's annual report, and to minutes of the local Community Liaison Committee.

    He's disappointed to learn he was the only one to respond to the call for comment, which opened December 20 and carried through May 15.

    "Just think if they'd had 50 submissions," said Dalzell. "We might actually see more stringent rules, more tougher conditions. We might actually have seen the place cleaned up even more than it has been over the years. Because they have made improvements.  We have to make sure that's on the record."

    While there have been improvements the refinery is the province's biggest single contributor of greenhouse gases at approximately three million tonnes annually

    Dalzell said by not responding, New Brunswickers signal provincial regulators there's little interest in pushing the company for tighter air quality rules.

    A spokesperson for the Department of Environment and Local Government said public comments and questions about air quality operating approvals are welcome anytime, and can be submitted through the department's website.

    Irving Oil did not respond to a request for an interview on the new air quality regulations.
    The new air quality operating permit goes into effect July 16.

    It expires in 2025.

    About the Author


    Connell Smith
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    Connell Smith is a reporter with CBC in Saint John. He can be reached at 632-7726 Connell.smith@cbc.ca


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    David Amos 
    Surprise Surprise Surprise


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: ?? Which means WHAT ???? Such a simple statement that says nothing !!


    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Do tell Have you ever posted anything that truly mattered? 

























     
    Ray Bungay 
    I live very close to this refinery and compared to 10 years ago I am not concerned with levels from that place. I grew up in Sydney, CB, where levels from both the steel plant in the 50's and 60's were 1000 times higher than any levels from the refinery. Irving has clean its act up very well as it reuses a lot of the Former pollution or safely burns it off . Moving on.



    David Amos

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Ray Bungay: Methinks your neighbours Gordon Dalzell and the Irving Clan should remember me quite well Perhaps you should say Hey to them for me sometime N'esy Pas?


























    Brian Robertson
    Dalzell and his campaign against the refinery are a long time favorite of the CBC.
    The notoriety that have awarded him assures that he will never be satifisfied and the CBC will always have fodder for the activist base.


    Mac Isaac
    Reply to @Brian Robertson: While it's true that Mr. Dalzell has been a thorn in the side of environmental issues, it's important to remember not to be too rabid in either supporting or denigrating Mr. Dalzell or people like him who have legitimate concerns for our (as in ALL OF OUR!) environment. It's also important for Mr. Dalzell to temper his criticisms of companies such as the Irving and its subsidiaries lest he be seen as a "one trick pony" who is on a one man vendetta against that company. He does make some good points and I think this fact is demonstrated by the results his comments have generated in the Environment Dept.


    Brian Robertson
    Reply to @Mac Isaac:
    Which is what he is.
    When has he ever addressed an issue that did not involve the refinery?
    I have never witnessed one.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Brian Robertson: Oh So True



























    Tom Linton 
    I follow the news quite regularly. This is the first time I have heard of a request for input regarding the environmental licence for Irving Oil. Important matters as this need more than one little blurb in the news cycle to ensure the news gets out there.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Tom Linton: Sounds like you don't know if it was a blurb or what it was ! You just need to be moew aware of what's goin' on around you !


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Tom Linton: I agree

























    Douglas James 
    There are a variety of ways of looking at this lack of public submissions. For one thing, it is highly unlikely that the government did much of anything to alert the public to the request for submissions. Every citizen of Saint John should have received a letter at the very least. Like all governments, this one knows how to communicate when it wants something and how to bury something when it feels compelled to do so.

    Another way of looking at it might be to say the people of Saint John know the cards are stacked against them and there is, therefore, no point in responding to such requests even if they are well publicized.

    The Environment department has been so deeply politicized as to be useless in any kind of 'watchdog' role. One only has to look at the west Saint John water fiasco to know this. It demanded no proper environmental assessment review of the South Bay well field project and, as a result, the wells are now threatened by briny drinking water and half the residents have had to be switched back to the Loch Lomand system. Of course the City of Saint John doesn't mention the reason on its website but, instead, in Orwellian language, describes the switch as a 'water servicing adjustment'.

    When it comes to the refinery, if you live in Saint John or want to move here, about all one can do is accept the fact that industrial pollution is likely to shorten your life just as you are more likely to die early if you drank west side water, when cancer causing chlorination byproducts or TMH was significantly higher on the west side of the city without people ever being warned of the danger until it was too late to think about moving.


    Douglas James 
    Reply to @Douglas James: To clarify 'if you drank west side water... for decades" as a recent study has shown that long term exposure to TMHs represents an increased risk of bladder and possibly colon cancer.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Douglas James: " As a recent study has shown " ?? So it wasn't known BEFORE THE STUDY ?? Either it was or it wasn't ! We're learning new things everyday , some good , some bad ! So don't try to spin new news as old news !!


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Douglas James: I see you have picked up a fan of your work


    Douglas James
    Reply to @David Amos: Another person who cannot read unfortunately.  


    David Amos
    Reply to @Douglas James: Can You???

























     
    ray fredette 
    Lol...
    Wonder who benefits from poor comms.
    Too funny.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @ray fredette: I concur





























    Justin Gunther 
    I wasn't aware of any such request. It's probably because our provincial government doesn't know how to communicate properly. I hope this article isn't supposed to serve as a placeholder for why we don't ask "the people" things.

    You don't know how to communicate, government. It's sad.


    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Why does the official "Office of the Premiere" GNB website have no email address to contact the office of the premiere? Is it because these websites were designed deliberately to facilitate one-way communication only?

    When I hit ctrl-f on that page and type in "email" I should immediately find the email address to the office of the Premiere. Stop acting like you're actually trying to listen to us. You're a joke.


    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Oh there's a contact us button, excellent. I will cal today to see what the IVR is like and report back.


    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: I will admit, once you get past the office of the premiere homepage, which is a confusing barrage of scrolling images and dozens of poorly organized links, the contact us page is pretty easy to navigate.


    Michel Forgeron 
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: On the "Office of the Premier" site click "Contact", you'll get the Premier's email, phone # etc.


    Michel Forgeron
    Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Sorry, I should have read your other posts!


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: So simple , yet so far away for some ! Try harder .


    David Amos
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: BINGO

























    Ben Haroldson
    Like Donald Sutherland said on the dirty dozen while acting as a general," never heard of it "


    David Amos
    Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Donald Sutherland was raised in Saint John so he should know


    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos:

    Donald Sutherland honoured in his hometown of Saint John
    CTV Atlantic Published Wednesday, November 22, 2017 3:45PM AST
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    Methinks it should be a small wonder to many folks in BC that CBC did not offer a comment section to oppose this monumental Bullshitter who landed a job in the Maritimes N'esy Pas?



    http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2016/09/re-rcmp-lonnie-landrud-his-knowledge-of.html



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    Saint John police chief says he's never witnessed racism in long career

    Policing agencies need to do things differently and involve people, says Stephan Drolet


    CBC News· Posted: Jun 19, 2020 3:01 PM AT



    Stephan Drolet began his new role as chief of the Saint John Police Force on Feb. 24. (City of Saint John/Twitter)


    Saint John police Chief Stephan Drolet says he's never witnessed racism as a police officer, but he promises he's ready to deal with it in his new job.

    Public trust is just one of the biggest issues the police force has to deal, he added.

    "Regaining the community's trust and having a dialogue on how we move forward from what's happening and make sure we do engage with our community and that people have a say in how we police their city — to me, that's the biggest challenge."


    With calls to defund the police from the Black Lives Matter movement and the deaths of two Indigenous New Brunswickers, policing agencies in New Brunswick are under increasing scrutiny.

    Drolet said the message is loud and clear that policing agencies need to do things differently and involve people.

    "What I'm going to do moving forward is I'm going to reach out, so I want to create a diversity advisory committee. For me, I want to have key people in the community come and meet me every three months."

    Drolet said he can see the advisory committee's terms of reference being to consider how the Saint John Police Force can  do better and how can it serve the community better.

    "Basically, it's for them to give me their opinion on how we can do better and work together to forge those bridges and make sure we get our relationship going."

    Strategic plan

    The chief said he is also going to work to develop a five-year strategic plan that will include input from internal and external stakeholders on how they see the police force operating for the next five years.

    "I come from outside the province, as you know, so I've got no preconceived ideas, but I need to go and talk to the people who are involved in delivering the service and receiving the service and how to do we go from there delivering in the next five years."


    Information Morning - Saint John
    Chief Stephan Drolet; busy first months on the job in Saint John


    Chief Stephan Drolet started his new role back in late February. Since then there has been an ongoing pandemic, cuts greater than $1 million to the force's budget, and policing agencies in New Brunswick are under more scrutiny than ever before. 16:14
     
    When asked how diverse the Saint John Police Force is, meaning how many members were Black or Indigenous, Drolet said he didn't have that information.

    Asked if he thought there was systemic racism in Canadian policing, Drolet responded by saying there was racism in the the community.

    "Every community has some racism issues and policing is no different," said Drolet, who was with the RCMP for 27 years, most of that time in British Columbia.

    " I'm a Caucasian male. I don't know, I never seen it, but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I don't know."
    Despite this, Drolet said he is committed to dealing with racism.

    "As the leader of this department, I need to deal with it to make sure our diverse community is engaged and they see themselves in their police force."

    Asked if he had ever directly witnessed racism in his time as a police officer, Drolet said, "I've never been witness to it."

    But Drolet said that was his experience.

    "Am I saying it doesn't exist? I'm sure it does and I need to make sure we have a process in place to listen to our community that if it does exist, we do better at serving them."
    In other issues, Drolet said an upcoming partnership with the mental health crisis team at Horizon Health to work with the force is positive.

    He said he's also not opposed to having officers wear body cameras when out on calls.
    Both initiatives will be in place by late summer. 


    With files from Information Morning Saint John


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    City of Saint John appoints new City Manager

    03-Dec-2018
    Saint John Common Council has appointed Major-General (Retired) John Collin as the new City Manager of the City of Saint John. Mr. Collin will assume his new responsibilities January 7, 2019.

    “This is an important leadership role within the municipality and we are delighted to have attracted broad interest from top candidates across the country,” says Mayor Don Darling. “John was selected for his leadership track record, his commitment to creating an exceptional customer service culture, his broader public sector experience and for his drive, clear focus, high-level collaboration and strategic communication skills. We look forward to him leading our organization.”

    Mr. Collin faithfully served his country as part of the Canadian Army for 35 years, retiring as a “two-star” general. He then worked as a senior executive with Bruce Power, the world’s largest nuclear power generator. He is also a successful small-business owner; having designed and operated a fine-dining restaurant. 

    “I am very excited to be joining the City of Saint John and I look forward to working with my new colleagues to deliver on the priorities and achieve the vision that the Mayor and Council have set for our community,” said City Manager John Collin.

    Mayor Darling and the members of Common Council participated in the search process with support from Organization Consulting Limited and received over 70 applications from candidates across Canada.


    Mr. Collin

    Chief Drolet Takes On His New Role With SJPF

    Wed February 26, 2020
    Following an extensive interview process, the Saint John Police Force is pleased to welcome Stephan Drolet into his new role as Chief on Monday, February-24-2020.

    “It has been a busy few months moving across the country and getting settled into my new role here in Saint John,” says Drolet. Chief Drolet has served with the RCMP for the past 27 years, spending most of his career in British Columbia.

    Drolet just stepped down as the deputy criminal operations officer for the province of B.C. and previously served as the officer in charge of the detachment in Burnaby.

    “Over the next few months, I will be meeting with my new colleagues, Police Commission members and staff at City Hall to familiarize myself with my new surroundings,” adds Drolet.

    “I want to thank Chief Connell for his time and dedication to the SJPF and the Saint John community during his tenure as Chief,” says Drolet.

    A Change of Command ceremony to formally welcome Chief Drolet in his new role will take place in the coming months.

    Chief Drolet will be available to the media on Wednesday, March-11-2020 at 10am in the Community Room of the Saint John Police Force Building, 1 Peel Plaza.


    Jim Hennessy
    Manager of Communications/Public Information
    Saint John Police Force

    1-506-632-6138



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    Methinks the lawyers working with Lou Bell the top spin doctor for Higgy's Police State will read this blog someday N'esy Pas?

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    Methinks Higgy is regretting the fact that he did not call a General Election last month before the circus in Fat Fred City began again and the news about Campbellton burst his bubble N'esy Pas?



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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-nb-update-june-20-1.5620744



    No new cases of COVID-19 reported Sunday

    There have been 164 confirmed cases of COVID-19 since the pandemic arrived in N.B.


    Sarah Morin· CBC News· Posted: Jun 21, 2020 1:13 PM AT



    New Brunswick reported no new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday. (Narongpon Chaibot/Shutterstock)


    The province reported no new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday.

    The number of active cases in the province remains at 27, according to a release from Public Health.

    Two patients are in hospital with one in intensive care.

    There have been 164 confirmed cases of the virus since the pandemic began in March. Of those, 135 have recovered and two residents at the Manoir de la Vallée long-term care home in Atholville have died.


    To date, 40,490 tests have been conducted.

    All areas of New Brunswick are in the yellow phase of recovery except for the Campbellton region, which is still in the orange phase because of a cluster of cases.

    Under the yellow phase of recovery:
    • Visits at long-term care homes are allowed. Only one visitor will be allowed at a time. The name of the visitor must be distributed before hand and visitors are required to wear a mask
    • Overnight camps are allowed to reopen
    • Residents who work outside the province don't need to self-isolate upon return, but should monitor for symptoms
    • Canadian residents can visit family in New Brunswick if they self-isolate for 14 days
    • Canadian residents who own property in New Brunswick are allowed in, so long as they self-isolate for 14 days
    • Organized sports are allowed to resume
    • There is no cap on the number of people gathering in controlled venues, but people must be able to physically distance themselves from others
    A person now only needs one symptom to be tested for COVID-19.

    Symptoms of COVID-19 include: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    What to do if you have a symptom

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 symptom can take a self-assessment test on the government website at gnb.ca.

    People with one of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

     
     
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    David Amos
    "Canadian residents can visit family in New Brunswick if they self-isolate for 14 days"

    I wonder how many cousins I have throughout Canada




    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-nb-update-june-20-1.5620744


    1 new case of COVID-19 in Campbellton region

    2 people in hospital, 1 in ICU

    Sarah Morin· CBC News· Posted: Jun 20, 2020 1:05 PM AT


    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, announces the province is loosening restrictions at Friday's news conference. All regions except Campbellton have moved into the next phase of recovery. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)

    Public Health is reporting a new case of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, one day after the province announced it was moving into its next stage of recovery.

    The new case is an individual in their 50s in the Campbellton region. The case is linked to the outbreak at Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville.

    There are 27 active cases in New Brunswick.

    Two people are in hospital and one person is in intensive care.

    New Brunswick has seen 164 confirmed cases across the province since the pandemic began in March. A false positive test was detected in a previously confirmed case, Public Health said in its news release Saturday.

    Of the confirmed cases, 135 have recovered from the respiratory illness, including 14 from the Campbellton region.

    Two residents at the Manoir de la Vallée long-term care home in Atholville, a community just outside Campbellton, have died.


    Premier Blaine Higgs announced New Brunswick’s next steps in the COVID-19 recovery plan. 3:20

    As of Saturday, 40,255 tests have been conducted.

    A person now only needs one symptom to be tested for COVID-19, Public Health said.


    Symptoms of COVID-19 include: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    Loosened restrictions

    The province loosened restrictions Friday. All regions except Campbellton have moved to the next stage of recovery.
    Under the new phase:
    • Visits at long-term care homes are allowed. Only one visitor will be allowed at a time. The name of the visitor must be distributed before hand and visitors are required to wear a mask
    • Overnight camps are allowed to reopen
    • Residents who work outside the province don't need to self-isolate upon return, but should monitor for symptoms
    • Canadian residents can visit family in New Brunswick if they self-isolate for 14 days
    • Canadian residents who own property in New Brunswick are allowed in, so long as they self-isolate for 14 days
    • Organized sports are allowed to resume
    • There is no cap on the number of people gathering in controlled venues, but people must be able to physically distance themselves from others

    What to do if you have a symptom

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 symptom can take a self-assessment test on the government website at gnb.ca.

    People with one of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

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    David Amos
    Methinks Higgy is regretting the fact that he did not call a General Election last month before the circus in Fat Fred City began again and the news about Campbellton burst his bubble N'esy Pas?


    Mary MacKenzie
    Reply to @David Amos: N'esy isn't even a word.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Mary MacKenzie: Methinks my Acadian friends laugh as hard as I do a the fact that my Chiac gets lots of indignant remarks from Anglos Perhaps you should Google the following sometime N'esy Pas?


    mabel short
    Reply to @David Amos: Chiac is real new brunswick french...we keep hiring high paying quebecers for public service jobs...but why not make Chiac mandatory...not quebec dialect french????...


    David Amos 
    Reply to @mabel short: Ask Higgy the buck stops with him these days

    Methinks he knows as well as I why the Quebeckers have had such a grip on the SANB long before he wanted to leader of the CoR Party N'esy Pas? 
     

    Bruce Normand
    Reply to @Mary MacKenzie: Amos is nearly as ignorant in his use of French as English. If he can't even be right about something so simple, why he wades into more complex matters is anyone's guess. Google indeed. If we expected to find proof of his gibberish, we might do that, but no need! Those who understand both languages can see his understanding needs a lot of work, n'est ce pas?
























    Bruce Sanders
    And yet, we still continue to force people to isolate when they could simply be tested.


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Your faith in the infallibility of tests is touching.


    David Amos
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Your faith in Higgy et al is not 
     

    Fred Brewer
    Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Tests are only about 70% accurate.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Fred Brewer: And Naysayers are about 3 % accurate ! Bruce as an example .


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: and Higgy's #1 spin doctor is always right or should I say Far Right?

























    Dan Stewart
    I do find it hard to understand what has changed (other than the passing of time) that allows governments to decide some these rule changes. For instance it was almost a month to the day when the first case arrived in Campbellton. Followed shortly by outrage when discovered that a doctor not following the rules may have been the cause. Since then we have had a steady (all be it small) stream of infections detected. Yet as of yesterday the new rule says if resident worked outside of the province you can now come back and NOT self-isolate upon return. Aside from a slight lessening of cases country wide what has changed in a month? Still odder is that while a resident who has worked outside the province need not self isolate on returning "other" Canadians here to visit family or those that own a cottage still must for 14 days. Are New Brunswickers that worked outside the province somehow more immune to this virus than just plain old Canadians in general? Some of these rules just seem at best arbitrary. Its makes no more sense that saying, lets let every third person who asks in and turn the rest away.


    Belinda Downing 
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: I totally agree that it makes no sense whatever that residents outside NB visiting family have to self isolate and returning workers don’t. Test and/or monitor for symptoms makes sense.


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: I find that it makes more sense to me if I look at it in terms of risks vs benefits. Think back to the early days of the lockdown, when only stores selling essential goods were allowed to remain open. Obviously there's a risk to allowing people to enter any kind of store, but there's more of a benefit to allowing them to buy essential goods (food, medication, etc) than non-essential ones. In one case the benefit outweighs the risk, in the other it doesn't.

    Working to earn a living is essential to most people. The benefits of allowing them to do so freely outweighs the risk of infection. Visiting family and accessing summer cottages are less essential (*not* less important, but less essential). The benefits don't outweigh the risks.

    I would also note that in the case in Campbellton you mentioned, the doctor had been outside the province for personal reasons, not to work. If he had been truthful with the border guards on this point, he would have been told to self-isolate.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks you are very selective in what you wish to understand N'esy Pas?


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Dan Stewart:
    It might seem that the "rules" are inconsistent, but that is simply because they are, the only thing out of our government that you can count on is no sense.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Speaking of inconsistent rules this is my favourite one that the government pulled on me thus far. Notice the date it was amended?

    Rules for Regulating the Practice and Procedure in the Federal Court of Appeal and the Federal Court
    P.C. 1998-125 1998-02-05

    55 In special circumstances, in a proceeding, the Court may vary a rule or dispense with compliance with a rule.
    SOR/2004-283, s. 11


    David Amos 
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks even Danny Boy the wannabe lawyer must wonder why my litigation is so special that the Court can ignore its own rules N'esy Pas?

    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: ALL governments exist solely to disrupt Dave and for no other reason , he's that important !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Dan Stewart
    Reply to @David Amos: Well Dave at least I try... Maybe you should concider something like that yourself.


    Dan Stewart
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Lol... Dave, A man that believes others think so much about him probably just thinks too much about himself.... And that's pretty much all I need to know about you my friend.


    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: At this point in time the risks are the same and they should be treated the same.


    Richard Cyr
    Reply to @Dan Stewart:
    Simple.
    Logic died of COVID about three months ago.


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: You and and your buddy Lou attack me then dare to make a joke of it and call me your friend???


    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Richard Cyr: Methinks many would agree that politics, money, bureaucracy and logic never mixed N'esy Pas?


























    David Chiasson
    HaHa Psych! People almost believed it! Never mind Covid,Mental Health and Substance abuse is going to kill and destroy more lives than the disease !


    Theo Lavigne
    Reply to @David Chiasson: Yes but they are not contagious, you know that I hope....


    Wayne Wright 
    Reply to @David Chiasson: brilliant


    Bonnie Cox
    Reply to @Theo Lavigne: Exactly - Never once have I gone grocery shopping and came out with addiction... although I have lost my mind... so maybe 50/50


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Bonnie Cox: Methinks the politicians who dreamed up this lock down do not have a mind to lose N'esy Pas?


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Chiasson: Welcome to the circus






    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-new-brunswick-recovery-yellow-atlantic-bubble-1.5618092


    N.B COVID-19 roundup: Atlantic travel bubble will have to wait until early July, Higgs says

    New Brunswick moves into next phase of its COVID-19 recovery plan


    Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jun 19, 2020 7:00 AM AT



    New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs expects to see a travel bubble between Atlantic provinces by early July. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)

    Residents in Atlantic Canada will have to wait a bit longer before they can travel between provinces in the region, Premier Blaine Higgs announced Friday.

    At a news briefing on COVID-19, Higgs said he expects a travel bubble to open between New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland in early July.

    "We are monitoring activities across the country," said Higgs, who has been in discussions with all three other Atlantic premiers.

    "We feel the first phase for us is obviously Atlantic Canada."

    Higgs said there will also be advanced notice before the borders open up, to give businesses, such as hotels and restaurants, a chance to accommodate the changes. But businesses should start planning now for the Atlantic travel bubble.



    The province, with the exception of Zone 5, entered into a new phase of recovery on Friday. (CBC News)

    The Atlantic premiers have said they want to provide safe and efficient travel in the region without the need to self-isolate for 14 days, which would allow for tourism and family visits.

    Higgs said last week that the Atlantic premiers were looking at having "at least a three-way bubble," with the goal of allowing access between provinces "sometime this summer."

    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said the Atlantic provinces are fine tuning the details, including what reopening will look like and what measures will be put back in place if there is an outbreak in one province.


    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, announced no new cases of COVID-19 in the province on Friday. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)

    Prince Edward Island Premier Dennis King and Nova Scotia Premier Stephen McNeil are interested in a July start for a regional bubble. Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Dwight Ball had been less enthusiastic, but on Friday was more supportive, saying officials are just working out the details.




    "We've come a long way in Newfoundland and Labrador," Ball told reporters. "I think people seemingly now are ready to move about more."

    Province could open to rest of Canada by mid-July

    Premier Blaine Higgs said the province could open to the rest of Canada by mid-July, as long as New Brunswick can continue to manage the spread of COVID-19.

    He said this step is important to help New Brunswick's economy and get airports back up and running.

    "At the end of the day we want to get back to being a nation," Higgs said. "We want to get back to our friends, our relatives.


    Premier Blaine Higgs announced New Brunswick’s next steps in the COVID-19 recovery plan. 3:20

    Dr. Jennifer Russsell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said she and the other chief medical officers from across Canada have been monitoring data related to COVID-19 cases across the country.

    She said this will help determine the reopening of the province to the rest of Canada.




    N.B. loosens restrictions in new phase of recovery

    After two days without any new cases of COVID-19, New Brunswick will move into the next phase of its recovery plan starting today, with the exception of the Campbellton region.
    Under the new phase:
    • Visits at long-term care homes are allowed. Premier Blaine Higgs said not every home will be in a position to allow visits immediately. Only one visitor will be allowed at one time. And the name of the visitor must be distributed in advance. Visitors are also required to wear masks.
    • Overnight camps are allowed to reopen.
    • Residents who work outside the province will no longer need to self-isolate when coming from outside New Brunswick, but are encouraged to self-monitor. 
    • Canadian residents can visit family members in New Brunswick if they self-isolate for 14 days, or for the duration of their visit if it is shorter than 14 days.
    • Canadian residents owning property in New Brunswick are allowed into the province if they self-isolate for 14 days.
    • All organized sports are allowed with appropriate distancing and sanitizing.
    • There is no longer a cap on the number of people gathering in controlled venues, which previously had a limit of 50 people. Participants must be able to physically distance themselves from others. (This does not include close family or friends.) This applies to churches, swimming pools, saunas, waterparks, rinks, indoor recreational facilities and organized sports.
    This next phase also includes the gradual reopening of more businesses and activities. Businesses that choose to reopen during this phase must prepare an operational plan respecting Public Health guidelines that can be provided to officials, if requested.

    Higgs said venues with indoor events with controlled entry or controlled seating are required to maintain records of users' contact information to allow Public Health to conduct targeted followup should there be a COVID-19 exposure at the facility.

    Campbellton region remains in orange phase

    The Campbellton region, the site of an outbreak provincial officials have linked to a medical professional who travelled to Quebec and didn't self-isolate, remains at the stricter orange level.
    Only two-household bubbles are permitted under the orange level.




    In addition, non-regulated health professionals and businesses, such as acupuncturists and naturopaths, and personal services businesses, such as hair stylists and spas, can't operate.



    Since March 25, travellers to this province have had to stop at checkpoints like this one on Route 120 between New Brunswick and Quebec. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

    As long as there isn't an increase in COVID-19, the Campbellton region will be allowed to move into the yellow phase by next Friday.

    This means all remaining businesses can open with appropriate distancing and sanitizing, and operational plans respecting Public Health guidelines. This includes casinos, amusement parks.
    Earlier this week, Public Health said it would no longer advise against non-essential travel to and from the Campbellton region.

    "No one should be discriminated against for living in a community where COVID-19 is active," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health.

    On Friday, Russell also reminded businesses in other regions that they don't need to ask whether a customer has been in the Campbellton region.




    Some businesses have barred entry to people who have been near Campbellton, and Russell said this is wrong.

    A COVID-19 outbreak could happen in anyone's community, she said.

    "Sometimes customers are turned away because of where they live and that's not OK," she said.
    However, hospitals will screen patients arriving from an outbreak area and isolate them from other patients.

    27 active cases 

    There are currently 27 active cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick.

    New Brunswick has seen a total of 164 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the province. Of those, 135 people have recovered from the respiratory illness, including 14 from the Campbellton region.




    Two patients are hospitalized with one in an intensive care unit. Two residents at the Manoir de la Vallée long-term care home in Atholville have died.

    As of Friday, 39,806 tests have been conducted.

    1 symptom for testing instead of 2

    Public Health now says a person needs only one symptom to qualify for testing for COVID-19. Lately, two symptoms have been required.

    "In order to really be confident in our results we are lowering the number of required symptoms to one, to make sure we're not missing anybody," said Dr. Jennifer Russell. "We want to confirm there is an absence of community spread."

    New Brunswick Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    What to do if you have a symptom

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 symptom can take a self-assessment test on the government website at gnb.ca.

    People with one of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

    About the Author




    Elizabeth Fraser
    Reporter/Editor
    Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca
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    David Amos
    Methinks Higgy is regretting the fact that he did not call a General Election last month before the circus in Fat Fred City began again and the news about Campbellton burst his bubble N'esy Pas? 



    https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies




    Replying to @alllibertynews and 49 others



    Methinks the lawyers working with Lou Bell the top spin doctor for Higgy's Police State will read this blog someday N'esy Pas?


    https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/06/methinks-lawyers-working-with-lou-bell.html



    #nbpoli#cdnpoli



    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-nb-death-long-term-care-1.5611120



    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/public-health-no-new-cases-1.5617502




    Province no longer advises against travelling to and from Campbellton region

    The province will hold a news briefing at 10 a.m. Friday


    Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jun 18, 2020 2:44 PM AT





    Last week, Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said residents living in the Campbellton area shouldn't travel to other parts of the province unless it's essential. (Government of New Brunswick)


    Public Health is no longer advising against non-essential travel to and from the Campbellton region, after no new cases of COVID-19 were reported Thursday.

    Although government hasn't been restricting people's movements within the province,  Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said last week people in the Campbellton region should only travel to other parts of the province for essential services.

    "It is not ideal for people travelling for non-essential reasons," she said.

    27 active cases of COVID-19

    To date, the number of active cases of COVID-19 is hovering around 27.

    The number of confirmed cases in New Brunswick is 164. There have been 135 who have recovered from the virus, including 14 of those related to the outbreak in the Campbellton region.

    The Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, has seen a cluster of COVID-19 cases over the past few weeks, after a doctor travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.

    Two patients are hospitalized with one in an intensive care unit.

    As of Thursday,39,300 tests have been conducted.

    Province to hold Friday news briefing

    The province will hold a news briefing at 10 a.m. Friday about the next phase of the COVID-19 recovery plan.




    With the exception of the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, the province is in the yellow phase of the COVID-19 recovery plan, which is aimed at the gradual reopening of businesses and activities while working to prevent a resurgence of transmissions.

    Zone 5 remains at the orange level of New Brunswick's COVID-19 recovery plan. This means, only a two-household bubble is permitted.



    The Campbellton region, Zone 5, remains in the orange phase of the COVID-19 recovery plan, but the rest of the province is in the yellow phase. (Government of New Brunswick)

    As well, non-regulated health professionals and businesses such as acupuncturists and naturopaths cannot operate at this time in Zone 5.

    Personal services businesses such as barbers, hair stylists, spas, estheticians, manicurists, pedicurists, and tattoo artists also cannot operate at this time.

    About the Author





    Elizabeth Fraser
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    Don Smith
    Your kidding right? Thats the dumbest thing the Government has to date!


    David Amos
    Reply to @Don Smith: Keep watching Methinks the Green Meanies and the PANB should agree that the circus is gonna get better as we go into a long hot summer N'esy Pas?

























    Fred Brewer

    Um, aren't we being a bit too hasty there folks? Didn't we just have new cases yesterday or the day before? Incubation is up to two weeks right? This is crazy. Ignore the pressure Mr. Higgs. Do what is best for our health and don't listen to pressure from the north.


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Fred Brewer: To me it looks as if the government is trying to throw Zone 5 a bone as an apology for keeping them in phase orange. It's a doomed effort. They're unlikely to be happy with their "bone," given that it would be hard to justify moving them to phase yellow until they've gone 14 days with no new cases (like the rest of the province had to).


    Christopher J Cusack 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: they are willing to risk the health of ALL new brunswickers so that nobody's feelings get hurt.


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Christopher J Cusack: I just hope the government doesn't let itself get pressured into letting Zone 5 move ahead to phase yellow ahead of schedule. If it sets that precedent now, it's going to make things even harder the next time one particular zone has an outbreak - and count on it, there *will* be other zones that have outbreaks.


    Justin Gunther 
    Reply to @Fred Brewer: I agree they shouldn't be listening to pressure to the exclusion of adhering to a logical framework in their attempts, futile or otherwise, to contain the spread. In other words, they shouldn't let the public micro-manage them into non-stop flipfloppery.

    The real problem is there does not appear to be a logical framework. We had an opportunity to have a closed environment but we blew that with the new border protocols, so if we have another severe outbreak we won't have a clue whether it was community spread or coming from Quebec, the US, the sky or wherever.

    How could we know?


    Justin Gunther 
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Oh that's right contact tracing. Word out of the US recently, according to one poll at least, is that 71% of people aren't going to do it. They're not downloading the app.

    If the numbers are similar here then seeSIS will have to do it the old fashioned way and call Google.


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: hard to carry my desktop computer around !!!


    Fred Brewer 
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: I believe you are confusing the general term "contact tracing" with the specific smart phone app that would make contact tracing faster and easier.
    NB has been doing contact tracing since the very beginning and they continue to do it the old fashioned way so this has nothing to do with how many people download and use the app.

    David Amos
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Have laptop will travel 
     

    SarahRose Werner
    I'm still wondering if out-of-province property owners will be able to access summer residences in Zone 5 while it's still in phase orange, or if they'll be asked to hold off for their own protection as well as the protection of community residents there.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Why not ask your hero Higgy?










    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-cases-fredericton-campbellton-1.5615832



    N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Public Health confirms new case at long-term care facility

    The case is a health-care worker in their 20s, who is self-isolating in the Fredericton region


    Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jun 17, 2020 3:20 PM AT



    Public Health confirms one new case of COVID-19 in New Brunswick on Wednesday. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)

    A health-care worker at a long-term care facility in the Campbellton region has been diagnosed with COVID-19 after coming into contact with the virus.

    Public Health said the individual is in their 20s and is an employee at the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville.

    The individual is self-isolating in the Fredericton region, also known as Zone 3, where they live. The individual is also being monitored by Public Health.

    27 active cases in Campbellton region

    There are currently 27 active cases of COVD-19 in the Campbellton region, according to Public Health. And two other cases outside Zone 5.

    Out of the 164 confirmed cases, 133  individuals have recovered. Twelve people have recovered since the first case in the Campbellton cluster was reported May 21.

    There have been two deaths at the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville this month. Four patients are hospitalized with one in an intensive care unit.

    The cluster began after a doctor travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.

    As of Wednesday, 38,714 tests have been conducted.

    "It is important to understand that COVID-19, just like many other chronic illnesses and diseases, has not impacted all people in the same way," Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said in a news release.





    "Due to societal factors, some populations are significantly more susceptible and affected by this disease and by the public health measures put in place to try to prevent the spread of the virus. When it comes to COVID-19, we are all only as safe as those members of our community who are most at risk; we are all in this together."

    Closure of Campbellton ER 'a difficult decision'

    Ten health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital  have been diagnosed with COVID-19.

    The Campbellton Regional Hospital's emergency room has been closed until further notice because of the spread of illness in the region, the Vitalité Health Network says.


    Ten health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital have been diagnosed with COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

    Visits to the hospital are also prohibited, and all non-emergency services are cancelled until further notice as well.

    At a news briefing Wednesday, Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of Vitalité Health Network, said it was a difficult decision to close the emergency room, but necessary to protect the people living in Restigouche County.

    "We are in a cluster situation and we needed to do something," Lanteigne said in French.





    In the event of an emergency, residents in the area are asked to call 911 or contact their family doctor.

    Virus spread to employees not working on COVID unit 

    Lanteigne said the virus spread to health-care employees who did not work on the COVID-19 unit.

    He believes a number of factors contributed to this, including health-care workers taking breaks together throughout their shifts.

    "Not being much on their guards as they should be," he said.

    He said the hospital has health-care measures in place to protect the safety of employees against the virus.  


    Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of Vitalité Health Network, said retired health-care workers have been asked to work at the Campbellton Regional Hospital while many staff are self-isolating at home. (Michel Corriveau/Radio-Canada)

    "Obviously it's an area of risk and an area of concern."





    There was also a possibility the virus could've been in the area before workers were even aware it was there.

    "Health-care workers are under great stress," he said. "They're tired. At time they just go back to their normal habits and put down their guard. It happens and we have seen that in the Campbellton area."

    Call out for retired employees to help at hospital

    In a status report, Vitalité Health Network, the governing body that oversees the Campbellton hospital, said 711 hospital employees have been screened for the respiratory illness since Saturday.

    Forty-one employees at the Campbellton hospital are currently self-isolating at home and 31 others are self-isolating as a precaution while they await their test results.

    Although it's not mandatory, Vitalité has asked retired employees across the province to return to work at this time to help with the number of people off work.

    What to do if you have symptoms

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.

    Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

    About the Author





    Elizabeth Fraser
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    Tony Mcalbey
    Methinks zone 5 should be open for all business like rest of us N’esy Pas?


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: No Dave , wrong again .


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you’re wrong, Tony here N’esy Pas?


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Nope , as I said ! Or is it just the " Me Party " speaking as a " team " ???


    Sebastien Landry
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: i agree both with your comment and the initial response to the cluster outbreak but I feel the province is setting a precedence that will be difficult to digest for the residents. The population will be perpetually restricted until a vaccine is distributed. I hope that the protocols in zone 5 are not carried to other zones once cases will airse in the next couple of years. I hope that we are able to figure out


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Sebastien Landry: Once Zone 5 has shown no new cases for a couple of weeks, it should be able to rejoin the rest of us in phase yellow. That was the condition that allowed the entire province to move from phase orange into phase yellow in the first, so why would it be different now? I would expect that any other zone that has a *community* outbreak (vs cases found in people who are already in quarantine) would be handled the same way as Zone 5 is currently being handled. And yes, none of us are moving to phase green - all restrictions lifted - until either a vaccine or a safe and effective treatment is found.


    Sebastien Landry 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I am no expert but I feel that the province is more prepared when compared to the initial outbreak in March. I am concerned that the protocols will be active until a vaccine is distributed and that unnecessary social restrictions are being enforced. That is how I feel, it does not mean I am correct


    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: You know the truth


    JoeBrown
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: BC and AB have 3 each clusters in n homes pop up this week. It never ends so lock down and collecting cerb is unsustainable. Taxes will need to double to cover all the paranoid shuttering of industry over a virus that is 2 hc setting in?


    JoeBrown 
    Reply to @JoeBrown: virus that is restricted to 2 hc settings in NB.


    Winston Gray 
    Reply to @JoeBrown: People smarter than you beg to differ. Listen to science, not "feelings". Go to the church if you want simple solutions. 
     

    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Has the " party of 4 Me Party " got a leadership convention planned in the offing ? Tony may want your job !


    David Amos 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should ask Higgy's lawyers or the four lawyers I was conferring with before they debated tonight what I think of political parties As for your buddy "Tony" you know as well as I that I do not know him at all N'esy Pas?


    Jake Quinlan
    Reply to @JoeBrown: One is a regional hospital..,.an indoor facility .. hundreds and hundreds of rotating staff...open 24\7--365. End users of the service number in the hundreds..most sick already...caring for them is not by Skype or using droids from Star Wars....it's direct human contact. You can appreciate the concern some may have.


    Joseph Vacher
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: no........ why would you think that

    Joseph Vacher
    Reply to @JoeBrown: believe it or not, shutting down campbelton does not have a real effect on the GDP of NB. half the population in northern NB doesn't work as it is

























    Mary Smith
    I do have some questions: are the health care workers that have gotten sick, are they caring directly for those sick in hospital and the ICU? Or are these workers dealing with a cluster among themselves, with no direct contact to those Covid-19 patients who are in hospital currently? I'm not sure what hospital those ill with Covid-19 are in, but I would assume it's the Campbellton hospital, but I don't know.

    If these workers are caring for those who are ill, and they are falling ill themselves, it suggests that we may not be up to par with PPE and such for front line workers, and it may forecast a bad situation should we get hit with a second wave, suggesting that those caring for those in hospital will likely fall ill themselves.

    How are they getting sick? From patients, or from each other due to the outbreak? What line of work are these healthcare workers working in? Directly with sick patients, or other roles in the hospital?


    Chantal LeBouthi

    Reply to @Mary Smith: I dont think they will answers your questions and will say something like

    We can’t give that information because of privacy concerns


    Mary Smith 
    Reply to @Mary Smith: "There are 10 health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital who have been diagnosed with the virus."


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Mary Smith: That's all the information the public is going to get. Our curiosity might desire more, but we're not owed more.


    Mary Smith 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: And they've updated it with answers to most of my questions.


    Mary Smith 
    Reply to @Mary Smith: "Virus spread to employees not working on COVID unit
    Lanteigne said the virus spread to health-care employees who did not work on the COVID-19 unit.
    He believes a number of factors contributed to this, including health-care workers taking breaks together throughout their shifts.
    "Not being much on their guards as they should be," he said.
    He said the hospital has health-care measures in place to protect the safety of employees against the virus.
    "Obviously it's an area of risk and an area of concern."
    There was also a possibility the virus could've been in the area before workers were even aware it was there.
    "Health-care workers are under great stress," he said. "They're tired. At time they just go back to their normal habits and put down their guard. It happens and we have seen that in the Campbellton area. [...] Forty-one employees at the Campbellton hospital are currently self-isolating at home and 31 others are self-isolating as a precaution while they await their test results."


    Mary Smith
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: "Our curiosity might desire more, but we're not owed more."

    Those questions are not about curiosity, it's about concern for those caring for Covid-19 patients. I was wondering if those caring for patients were falling ill - because if they are, it mean's we aren't protecting those who need it most, and when or if a second wave hits, our hospitals will likely collapse with no healthy people to take care of those who are hospitalized with Covid-19.

    If those healthcare workers who are falling ill, got it from each other because they let their guard down (I'm not blaming them at all, I understand and am thankful for all they're doing), then protocols need to be upped to prevent spread within the hospital staff. Are they wearing masks and keeping distant while working, or are they sharing the same meals at the same tables, so that if an case popped up within one healthcare worker it would spread through them all. We can't afford to have hospitals collapse, or have all the staff go into isolation like what's happening now, and we need to not become complaisant with these outbreaks and clusters. Marathon not a sprint.


    JoeBrown 
    Reply to @Mary Smith: Leave it to the hc authorities since they are trained to figure how to deal with the manor and its employees. Your concerns are just that, and are not needed to help them close off the infections.
      
    Mary Smith
    Reply to @JoeBrown: If the hospitals can't keep Covid-19 from spreading wildly among their staff, then it's everyone's concern. It is a forecast to what could happen in every hospital in NB, if protocols aren't stepped up - which I'm sure public health and hospitals are now doing. If not, that's how you get hospitals collapsing.

    My biggest concern was if those falling ill were dealing directly with patients or not, because if that's the case, then it's really bad, and questions on if they're being provided with enough or proper PPE or protocols should be raised. If it's spreading among the staff, it points to workers letting their guards down potentially, and protocols should be improved, or else we can expect similar outbreaks among hospital staff when other Zones have outbreaks, and that's very troubling.

    I'm confident in public health, and if they learn from the mistakes of this outbreak in Zone 5 hopefully we won't have other hospitals follow a similar path later on or during a second wave. Isolating those potentially exposed is the proper way to handle this cluster, as public health has been doing all along, and hopefully this outbreak is isolated, contact traced, and contained. It's an example of what not to do, pointing out potential weak spots in the hospital system, and hopefully it will be lessons learned.


    JoeBrown
    Reply to @Mary Smith: wow, paranoid scenario. The clusters are contained to 2 spots and will stop spreading when the employees quoted in the article being careless at the wrong time stop spreading it amongst themselves.
    Look for direction at the 4 provinces with international airports, none with locked borders. They aren't hiding in caves like NB is.


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @JoeBrown: nicely said and logical


    Mary Smith 
    Reply to @JoeBrown: "Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after a pandemic will seem inadequate. This is the dilemma we face"


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Huh !


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks it should be blatantly obvious to even little Lou that I am not you N'esy Pas?


    JoeBrown 
    Reply to @Mary Smith: There is no pandemic in NB. 2 clusters in hc ommunity mainly under control. The other 750k people do not need caves.


























    Chantal LeBouthi
    How are they going to deal with a second wave?

    Vitality need a major overhaul


    Johnny Almar
    Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: got about one month to figure it out.


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: your fake news again


    John Oliver 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: A second wave, when it comes, will not hit NB in the next month. Maybe October. A lot depends on the decisions made to open up the rest of the economy. But, for NB to get a second wave it will require more infected people to enter the province which doesn't look likely for the foresseable future.


    JoeBrown 
    Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: The province has no money to destroy old bldgs and rebuild to current codes. Unless you want your taxes to double for a couple of years, nothing can be done so they will just make minor improvements while the citizens point a finger at private homes and pretend the money will appear to rebuild.


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @John Oliver:
    You are forgetting the free range tourists that are due any time from Quebec.


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I never do I find their ladies very attractive but the dudes can be rude


    Rob Sense
    Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi:
    everything in NB needs a major overhaul


    Rob Sense 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
    hate those tourists....we should spray DDT to eradicate them.


    Jos Allaire 
    It's always fair game against Francophones while topics involving other groups are closed for comments.






    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-campbellton-region-zone-five-1.5614077



    Public Health confirms 3 new cases of COVID-19 in Campbellton region

    2 health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital have been diagnosed


    Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jun 16, 2020 2:15 PM AT



    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said residents need to remain vigilant until a vaccine is found for COVID-19. (Government of New Brunswick)

    Public Health has announced three new cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region Tuesday, bringing the total number of active cases in New Brunswick to 30.

    Two of the cases are health-care employees at the Campbellton Regional Hospital, and the other case is linked to a close contact of a case, the province said in a news release Tuesday.

    Since the Restigouche County outbreak, 10 health-care workers at the hospital have been diagnosed with the respiratory illness.

    "As we navigate through the pandemic, we will need to continue to learn from our experience, adapt, and prepare as best we can for what is next," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health in a statement.


    The Campbellton Regional Hospital's emergency room has been shut down to prevent the spread of COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

    "With each challenge we overcome, we are building resilience as individuals, as communities, and as a province."

    The new cases are an individual in their 20s and two individuals in their 50s.

    Over the weekend, Vitalité Health Network announced the closure of emergency room at the Campbellton Regional Hospital, to prevent the spread of the virus.

    1 patient still in intensive care unit 

    There have been a total of 163 cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick since March, 131 of those cases have recovered. This includes 11 cases related to the outbreak in the Campbellton region.

    There have been two deaths related to COVID-19 since the virus broke out more than three months ago. Both individuals were residents of the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville, where the virus broke out.


    Two residents living at the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville have died after being diagnosed with COVID-19. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)

    There are also three temporary foreign workers in the Moncton area who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 and are in self-isolation.

    Four patients are hospitalized with one in an intensive care unit.

    As of Tuesday, 37,843 tests have been conducted.

    Campbellton remains in orange phase

    Most of the province has been in the yellow phase since the end of May. The Campbellton region remains in the orange phase of the province's COVID-19 recovery plan.

    This means a two-household bubble is permitted. Non-regulated health professionals and businesses such as acupuncturists and naturopaths cannot operate at this time. Personal services businesses such as barbers, hair stylists, spas, estheticians, manicurists, pedicurists, and tattoo artists cannot operate.

    Summer camps must have operational plans in place 

    As summer approaches, the province is reminding operators of day and overnight camps that they're required to prepare an operational plan respecting Public Health guidance.





    In a news release, the province said day and overnight camps do not need to be inspected before opening, but they must have an operational plan that can be provided to officials.

    "The goal is to create a safe and healthy environment for staff and children by making the necessary adjustments to help limit the risk of exposure to COVID-19," the news release said.

    What to do if you have symptoms

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.

    Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

    About the Author





    Elizabeth Fraser
    Reporter/Editor
    Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca


    CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices



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    Murray Brown
    "As we navigate through the pandemic, we will need to continue to learn from our experience, adapt..." Adaptations they have apparently failed at... Testing, tracking and isolating those who have become infected, otherwise there would be no new infections. There appears to be serious problems with the 'stay at home and isolate' orders given to those who have been infected in the Campbellton area. Maybe this is why Higgs wanted to start arresting people without reason. The 'please stay at home' orders are obviously being ignored up there.




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    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Normally NPs and doctor's assistants have patients of their own and aren't available to "cover" for doctors who need to take time off.


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: "And how's that turning out with the cross border Docs ?"


    Methinks I should be grateful that you mentioned my documents on file in Federal Court in Fat Fred City, the Provincial Court and the EUB in Saint John, the Supreme court of Newfoundland, the US District Courts in New York, Massachusetts and New Hampshire, the Norfolk Superior Court in Dedham MA and the Dorchester District Court in Boston MA to name but a few N'esy Pas? 


























     

    Alison Jackson

    In speaking with my 96 year old step dad about discomfort, he tells me when he had to spend a month in a ditch in WW2 in Belgium as the worst situation he's ever seen. They would wear gas masks not knowing what was going to come at them for days on end. And not today's gas masks, those heavy metal ones. He can't understand why the people in NB can't handle a cloth mask while shopping for like an hour a day.
    A momentary slice in time where there is slight discomfort and modern day citizens nearly lose it. It's actually kinda humorous to see these 'real men' (and their wives) with their giant pick up trucks that can't handle a little cloth mask,lol. "Oh the humanity! My freedoms are compromised!" Hey, my stepdad fought for your freedom to carelessly spread this virus around..so I guess you need to thank him/them each time you don't wear one huh?


    Carlson MacKenzie
    Reply to @Alison Jackson: Well said!


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Alison Jackson: Higgy took away freedom, borders are closed


    Joe Rootliek
    Reply to @Alison Jackson: Actually Big Brother does not want us to wear masks, for the cameras in all of the stores and cities, taken everywhere, goes against tracking us.

    Wearing a mask, the governments do not like, but they even realize, that we have to in this case where a 6 ft distance cannot be maintained.

    I agree to wear a mask, but true, there are those with respiratory problems that cannot wear one... I am certainly against any penalty for not wearing one, but if the government would say we recommend more often, then more people would wear them just on that advice.


    Corrie Weatherfield
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: "Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me " is a song , , , not a sensible way to live. It is not always about me, me, me. Some of the conditions "imposed" on poor, poor pitiful you are designed to give you the opportunity to be a responsible person in society and work together with other people to protect all people. All people in society benefit from the positive efforts of the others. If not there would be no way to live except hunter/gatherer. You would only be able to hunt, for example, with tools you made yourself. Walk on rough ground with your bare feet unless you made shoes.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Tony is a member of Dave's " Me Party " .


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: " Responsible person in society " . You do realize you're lecturing Tony don't you ? Never gonna happen .


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: And you wanna shop at Walmart Calais . Not essential , if you can understand what that means .


    Corrie Weatherfield 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Thank you, yes I realize but sometimes I can't help myself ! ! !







    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-outbreak-roundup-1.5612408



    N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Public health to share virus update after 2nd death

    Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell will be speaking at 2:30 p.m. in Fredericton

     
    Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jun 15, 2020 12:51 PM AT



    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, will be speaking with reporters Monday afternoon in Fredericton. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)

    Public Health is holding a news conference Monday following the second death of a resident at a long-term care facility near Campbellton from COVID-19.

    The individual, a resident of the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville, was in their 80s. The person is the second in New Brunswick to die from the virus.

    Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, will be speaking with reporters in Fredericton at 2:30 p.m.


    The Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville has seen a cluster of COVID-19 cases over the past few weeks. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)

    A news release sent out by public health over the weekend did not confirm the identity of the person who died, but said the individual had been admitted to hospital.
    An 84-year-old long-term care home resident was the first person in New Brunswick to die of COVID-19.

    Daniel Ouellette was a resident at the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville. He died earlier this month. 

    26 active cases of COVID-19

    A cluster of cases in the Campbellton region surfaced in mid-May, after a doctor travelled to Quebec and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.

    There are 26 active cases in New Brunswick, most of which are in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5.

    Four people are in hospital and one person is in ICU.


    Daniel Ouellette, 84, died from COVID-19 at the beginning of June. (Submitted by Michel Ouellette)

    Many of the cases are linked to Manoir de la Vallée.

    To date, 37,072 tests have been conducted, 157 cases have been confirmed and 129 people have recovered.

    Campbellton's emergency room closed until further notice

    The Campbellton Regional Hospital's emergency room is closed until further notice because of the spread of COVID-19 in the region, the Vitalité Health Network announced via a news release Saturday.

    Visits to the hospital are also prohibited, and all non-emergency services are cancelled until further notice as well.


    Last week, Vitalité Health Network announced that the Campbellton Regional Hospital will open its emergency department, but it was closed again over the weekend. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

    The closure comes after the New Brunswick hospital announced it was reopening last week.

    The hospital's emergency department has been closed since the end of May, and all non-urgent or elective health-care services were cancelled due to the high risk of transmission of COVID-19.

    What to do if you have symptoms

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.

    Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

    About the Author





    Elizabeth Fraser
    Reporter/Editor
    Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca


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    95 Comments
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    David Amos
    Oh My My 


    Dutch Diefenbaker 
    Reply to @David Amos: Oh You You. N'est ce pas?


    Mary MacKenzie 
    Reply to @David Amos: Are you sick? Were you hacked?

























     

    Rob Sense
    discrimination is alive and well here.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Rob Sense: In more ways than one


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Rob Sense:
    Against who? Our government proves daily that inclusion is not just limited to our schools.


























    Buddy Best
    How many others were affected getting here with these workers? Pay a decent wage and these FW would not be required. Billionaires paying scab labour nothing!!!


    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @Buddy Best: How many others were affected... by what?


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Buddy Best: There are farmers in New Brunswick who are billionaires?


    David Amos
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yes


    Terry  Tibbs
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
    Come on up to Heartland/Florenceville/Centerville/Grand Falls.


    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Buddy Best: If we believe and trust our farmers, it's not so much an issue of pay as it is an issue of tight deadlines and the TFWs genuinely being that much better at the job than anybody we can train on the spot here in NB.


    Dan Stewart 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: There are no "Billionaire farmers" in New Brunswick. I know some might be alluding to the McCains or even the Irving's but they hardly farmers by any stretch of the imagination.























    Rick Firth
    Well, with 3 cases now I guess Higgs will taking Moncton back under orange for the time being. Of course not, it's part of the golden triangle.


    Evan Day 
    Reply to @Rick Firth: Those people were already self-isolating. Provided they followed the rules, there should be no issue of community spread.


    Dan Stewart
    Reply to @Rick Firth: No reason to take Moncton back to orange. Those infected there have been in isolation since arriving... The way it should be.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: How is your sense of fair play doing?


    Dan Stewart
    Reply to @David Amos: Mine is fine Dave... hows your sense.. of anything doing?


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: You all are jealous of David Amos senses.


    Dan Stewart
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Yep that must be it... and wondrous imaginative senses he no doubt has...


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks words such as yours help to prove my point about how bad things truly are. I suspect that you know why I feel honoured by the fact that you hate me N'esy Pas?





















    Bob Smith
    Sad to see the cases originate with the TFW's. That said, the farmers and fish processors wanted Higgs to let them all in from the beginning rather than a delay. That could have meant a huge spike in the numbers of infections.


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @JoeBrown: And where were the 3 cases announced today ? Did you even read the story ?


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Comprehension isn't that hard Joe . Try it .


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @JoeBrown: They were all NATIONAL programs ! You do realize that don't you ? Appears not !
      
    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: "Comprehension isn't that hard Joe . Try it "

    Methinks you should take your own advice N'esy Pas?.
     

    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks Yethinks Methinks I care ! Methinks iI don't ! Surprise ! Surprise !!! Y'es eh pas !!!


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Lou Bell: lightweight


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Ah the leader of the 4 member " Me Party ". Joe and Terry and Tony !


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Surprised you got the spelling right ! Such a BIGLY word for you to use .


    Dutch Diefenbaker
    Reply to @Bob Smith: No different then NB travellers coming back from another area. Little or no risk if everybody complies with common sense rules.



























    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Welcome back to Higgy's circus 


    Paul Estey
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: Higgy´s got us through very nicely up until the problem from the maker of this last cluster....maybe you should read a book or two on the art of being positive.... 


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Paul Estey: I repeat are you the dude who was dismissed from Fat fred City's Finest not long after they stole my Harley?


    Mike Bookman
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: Why is this Higgy's problem? The doctor did this all on his own. Also why are you using this forum for some kind of personal agenda?


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @William Stackhouse: more of the same police state
     

    JoeBrown 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Mike Bookman: lol, do you expect to rehab DA?


    David Amos 

    Content disabled
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks its interesting that you respond to comments I can't read Small wonder that Higgy's fan club thinks I am you N'esy Pas?


    William Stackhouse 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @JoeBrown: His name is IgnorAmos from now on lol


    JoeBrown 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @William Stackhouse: I ran out of mutes 2 years ago. cbc told me then that they were looking at expanding the list.


    Marco Bernardo
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: David, I am still convinced that you and Tony Mcalbey are the same person, just different accounts. Also, of all the regions in North America, Premier Higgs has done the best to contain and control the pandemic. Perhaps if you were in Montreal, you would feel more at home with the infected there?


    Tony Mcalbey
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Marco Bernardo: methinks not N’esy Pas? 


    Marco Bernardo
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ok, then you are identical twins. N'esy Pas?




















    Johnny Almar
    Prepare for a scolding about how we have to be compassionate towards the guy who caused this.

    Meanwhile in China, second wave has started in another wet market and it’s larger in scope than Wave Wuhan.

    Over 100,000 infections that walked around unchecked. This one is going to lock us all down within 60 days or so unless all transportation from China is banned and from any country that allow China to transport people to them.


    Tony Mcalbey
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Fake news


    David Amos
    Content disabled  
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Nope

    Methinks just like you they don't bother to tell all that they know to be true N'esy Pas? 
     

    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: For the record I have been falsely accused of posting comments in the two names found above by spin doctors who support Higgy et al and their actions against me.

    Methinks it should prove interesting to see how anyone replies to this simple statement N'esy Pas?


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks I know the score for sure now N'esy Pas?


    Dan Stewart 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: Actually yes... Not that the facts would mean that much to you right? 
     

    JJ Carrier
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Just ignore him brudda... Blocked him months ago...Problem is he has multiple accounts on the boards...Let him fester in his self-made egobubble...


    JoeBrown  
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Link please. CNN reports 36 cases, slightly less than 100k. THey ended wuhan after neglecting it for a month, so maybe you are overreacting?


    Dan Stewart  
    Reply to @JJ Carrier: I did kind of think that was the case.... alter egos or multiple personalities.. take you pick... Everyone is free to post here and say what they want within reason of course even if no one agrees with them but Darn at least make sense... Aside from not particularly liking Higgs I rarely know what the man is even going on about.... and maybe he doesn't either... 
     

    Mathieu Laperriere
    Reply to @David Amos: it's n'est-ce pas, not n'esy pas. thanks :) 


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks many would agree that you and your brudda JJ deserve each other N'esy Pas? 


    Dan Stewart
    Reply to @David Amos: Hmm, again Dave, have no idea what your talking about... Do you? 


    Buddy Best
    Reply to @JoeBrown: CNN? LOL 


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Dan Stewart: Yes and I republished everything that went "Poof"





    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-cases-campbellton-recoveries-1.5611635



    No new cases of COVID-19, Public Health announces

    Most of the province's active cases are concentrated in the Campbellton region


    Sarah Morin· CBC News· Posted: Jun 14, 2020 12:23 PM AT



    Four people are in hospital because of COVID-19 and one person is in ICU. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

    Public Health announced and no new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday, a day after the province's second death from the virus.

    To date, 37,072 tests have been conducted, 157 cases have been confirmed and 129 people have recovered.

    There are 26 active cases in New Brunswick, most of which are in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5.  

    Four people are in hospital and one person is in ICU.

    Many of the active cases are connected to Manoir de la Vallée, a long-term care facility in Atholville.

    Two residents at the facility have died from COVID-19.
    Public Health announced three new cases of the virus on Saturday, including two health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and an employee at Manoir de la Vallée.

    A cluster of cases in the Campbellton region surfaced in mid-May, after a doctor travelled to Quebec and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.

    Nine people connected to the outbreak in the Campbellton region have recovered.





    Campbellton ER closed

    Campbellton Regional Hospital's emergency room is closed until further notice because of the spread of COVID-19 in the region, the Vitalité Health Network announced via a news release Saturday.

    Visits to the hospital are also prohibited, and all non-emergency services are cancelled until further notice as well.

    What to do if you have symptoms

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.

    Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

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    32 Comments
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    David Amos
    Methinks Higgy et al and the police in Fundy Royal should read all the comments and their emails ASAP N'esy Pas? 








    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Methinks Higgy et al know why they will be hearing mostly crickets in this forum today N'esy Pas?













    Lou Bell
    @ TerryTibbs To your question asking when Funerals can be held again . If you've been paying attention , they can ! Limit on the number of persons allowed to attend , but they have been allowed . You and dave haven't been paying wery close attention as you both seem unaware of this. So go ahead and with your plans .


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Oh My My




























    Michael Guravich
    Ah geez, CBC. You’re still singling out “the doctor who travelled” even though he, as everyone should know by now, may or may not have been the start of anything. New information has come out, not yet settled as to reliability, but no less credible than anything else at this point. And it has been credibly suggested that there are ways the virus could have been spread by other people. Nevertheless, you still include this line in your reportage: “A cluster of cases in the Campbellton region surfaced in mid-May, after a doctor travelled to Quebec and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.” You’ve run this line for days now. It should be removed. It strongly infers a direct connection between the doctor and the outbreak. (Actually, it screams: “He’s Patient Zero!”) There is also no mention anywhere else in the article of any other possibility, further suggesting he, and only he, is the one we should all still be looking at. Given that it is no longer certain the doctor is Patient Zero, which means it’s possible that he is not, to continue to publicly point him out in this manner is unwarranted and unconscionable.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: I am having a minor bout of Deja Vu 
     

    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: The " credible " info you refer to is a " private Eye " hired by the Doctor came up with a bunch of scenarios where it inferred other POSSIBLE scenarios where it could have started . Misrepresented and false responses from the Doctor when reentering the province suggest where and how and by whom the latest set of cases started are most likely correct. Any questions otherwise would most likely result in a change in the provinces narrative ! I suspect upon the 1st death happening the P. I. was hired and any and all scenarios developed , solely in looking ahead to possible Lawsuits ! Like hiring someone to declare the world is still flat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


























    Bruce Sanders
    Why is the Emergency closed? If there is a multiple vehicle car crash just outside the hospital, with life-threatening injuries, where do these people go?


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Bruce Sanders: Good question 
     

    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Bruce Sanders: I suspect the ER is closed to the 90 % of patients who appear daily with a case of the sniffles . Most accident victims arriving by ambulance don't come through the front doors of the ER !























    Terry Tibbs
    This old man is left scratching his head here. There was a smell of burning wood, but that is done now.................
    We have a crop of sick folks up Campbellton way and the "official" response is to close the hospital?
    Does anyone else see the irony in that?


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I do


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    The ONLY thing I can *think* of (that burning smell again) is the hospital is staffed with temporary/part time Quebec workers to make the books look good. Different line item from "salaries".


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Naw they were having trouble staying open last Xmass 
     

    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Campbellton hospital takes 'extreme' steps after running out of beds
    Hospital closes three services, stops admissions, and diverts ambulances to other centres
    Elizabeth Fraser · CBC News · Posted: Nov 21, 2019 11:00 AM AT

    "Staff will be implementing "extreme emergency measures" over the next seven days, and the situation will be reassessed daily.

    The letter described several steps the hospital is taking to deal with the problem, including:

    Diverting ambulances to other centres.
    Accepting no new admissions until further notice.
    Not allowing physicians in the community to do any direct admissions. This also applies to pending admissions.
    Transferring admissions to Bathurst when no other alternatives are present.
    Transferring orthopedic on-call coverage to Bathurst.

    "With New Brunswick's aging population and people living longer, Flemming said there is greater demand on the health-care system, calling it a "grey tsunami."

    "At the same time our population is not growing at a particular rate where we can recruit the amount of people that we need."

    The president of the New Brunswick Medical Society issued a statement Thursday calling on the government to address the health-care needs of seniors outside of hospital. Dr. Chris Goodyear said otherwise these situations will continue to occur, especially with flu season approaching.

    "Government must make special care and nursing home beds more readily available and streamline the patient assessment and approval process to move a senior out of hospital," Goodyear said.

    Vitalité CEO Gilles Lanteigne said overcrowding reached a breaking point late Tuesday night. "We had 42 people on stretchers," he told reporters"
     

    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Here is just one of several replies i made to you about Health Care 6 months ago

    Minister directs health authorities to solve service interruptions at hospitals

    New Brunswick's health minister says ‘everything is on the table’ in terms of solving health care ‘crisis’
    Political Panel · Posted: Nov 28, 2019 9:33 PM AT

    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Graeme Scott:
    The political will does not exist to fix this.
    We have seen how fast, and to what length, our government is willing to go to mandate vaccinations, but this is a non-starter for them.

    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: BINGO































    Terry Tibbs
    So Mr Higgs, still no word when the tax paying, law abiding, residents can hold a funeral for their deceased loved ones, but we can host tourists from Quebec?


    David Amos
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    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Please let me know if and when you manage to hold a funeral for your loved one in order that I may turn up to pay my respect to another man who is not fond of Higgy's nonsense


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I think Higgy is upset at us for not taking the jobs


    Terry Tibbs 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey:
    Not to worry, people are waking up, that little love affair is in it's death throes.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur 

     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Please let me know when and where you hold the funeral for your lady


    Lou Bell
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    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Actually Funerals can be held ! Just liimits to how many can attend ! For the past couple of months reasonable people have been delaying " celebrations of life " till the virus subsides ! Then there are those naysayers who want to hold " end your life ' celebrations 


    David Amos
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks my old client the "The Beast" (RIP) and many others would agree you could have embarrassed "No Class" Bobby Bass if you attended one of their wrestling shows many years ago N'esy Pas? 
     

    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: POOF


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Lou Bell:
    When the kids are grown and gone, when those of our generation have left for greener pastures, when siblings have scattered across Canada, tell me wise Lou how practical is a funeral under the police state measures of The Great And Wise Higgs?
    Not to worry, the wait will soon be over, shortly we will be flooded with folks who don't give a tinkers toss fur Mr Higgs' rules.


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Hail Vickers!


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Ray Oliver:
    What would a tired old security guard have to offer that is much, if ANY, different?
    The well is poisoned.


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: It was a failed attempt at sarcasm. My bad


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Well put




























    Lou Bell
    Keep the out of province Locums just that ! Outside ! No more cross border Docs ! I don't care which way they're going , in or out ! The Seniors Home is proof as to what can happen ! Once it gets into the Hospital we're in deep trouble !


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: avoid hospitals if you are concerned with catching a virus


    JoeBrown
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: I have begun back 40 excavations that will be turned into living quarters for those who feel Higgs has not gone far enough.


    James Smythe
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Really? When sick people go to the hospital we're in deep trouble? I'm pretty sure that's where sick people go to get better, Lou.



    David Amos

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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks Higgy et al and the RCMP already know why I made a brand new blog in your honour N'esy Pas?



    David Amos

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    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: I have to got there when my doctor wants to do another test on my bum ticker


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Lou Bell: So when someone's medical appointment is delayed even longer because their regular doctor isn't available, you're going to personally explain to them why there wasn't a locum available to fill in for the doc and see them instead?  


    David Amos
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    Reply to @JoeBrown: Please explain your comment real slow


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: They're supposed to be there to help prevent the disease and the spread , NOT promote it !!! 




    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid19-nb-death-long-term-care-1.5611120



    Resident at long-term care facility dies from COVID-19, province announces 3 new cases

    Death is the second in New Brunswick related to virus


    Sarah Morin· CBC News· Posted: Jun 13, 2020 2:21 PM AT



    Another resident at Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville has has died from complications related to COVID-19. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)

    Another resident at a long-term care facility near Campbellton, N.B., has died from complications related to COVID-19, Public Health announced Saturday.

    The individual, a resident of the Manoir de la Vallée in Atholville, was in their 80s. The person is the second in New Brunswick to die from the virus.

    "I was deeply saddened to learn of a death related to COVID-19 in our province," Premier Blaine Higgs said in a news release.

    The news release does not confirm the identity of the person who died, but said the individual had been admitted to hospital.

    Public Health also reported three new cases of the disease in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, on Saturday.

    The three new cases include two health-care workers at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and an employee at Manoir de la Vallée.

    Their ages of the three new cases are as follows:
    • An individual in their 20s
    • An individual in their 30s 
    • An individual in their 50s
    A cluster of cases in the Campbellton region surfaced in mid-May, after a doctor travelled to Quebec and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area.

    There are 29 active cases in the province. Four people are hospitalized and one person is in intensive care.


    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, offered condolences to the family and friends of the second person to die from COVID-19 in the province. (Government of New Brunswick)

    Many of the cases are linked to Manoir de la Vallée.

    To date, 36,605 tests have been conducted. Of the 157 confirmed cases, 126 people have recovered from the virus.

    Campbellton Regional Hospital closes ER

    The Vitalité Health Network announced its emergency room is closing effective 8 p.m. until further notice.

    Visits to the Campbellton Regional Hospital are also now prohibited, and all non-emergency services offered by the facility are cancelled until further notice.

    "The Network has no choice but to take these measures immediately given the evolution of the spread of COVID-19 in Region 5," Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of the network, said in a press release sent out on Saturday.

    Emergency services at the hospital are still open, but people with "mild symptoms" are being asked to contact their family physician, nurse practitioner or Tele-Care 811 before going to the emergency department.

    What to do if you have symptoms

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.

    Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

    CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices





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    David Amos

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    Methinks little Lou and her buddy Ray should find it interesting that the tally of comments has climbed back up to where it was last night N'esy Pas? 








     


    David Amos
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    Methinks the RCMP members who do receive my emails should agree that the desperate spin doctors who tap on their keyboards night and day supporting Higgy's Police State post too much N'esy Pas? 


    Ray Oliver
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    Reply to @David Amos: Awww the big bad bully from Fundy Royal cant take a little of his own medicine... methinks


    David Amos 
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    Reply to @David Amos: here are some of the wannabe constable's words tonight:

    "How's Byron making out buddy he see any justice at the hands of Just Dave?"

    Methinks this dude is one of the tr o lls who has been cyberstalking my family and I since I ran in Fundy Royal in 2004 and then wrote Bryon Prior's defense and counterclaim for the Supreme Court of Newfoundland in January of 2005 N'esy pas?


    Ray Oliver
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    Reply to @David Amos: Not even close.


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the boss of the RCMP in the Fundy Royal Area since 2015 who took a promotion and a transfer back out west in lieu of retiring is well are that most Maritimers are in bed or finishing their last Saturday night beers on a nice evening in June rather than wasting their precious time posting mindless vitriol on the web about Byron Prior and I. However Inspector Morgan must admit its still early in Alberta and BC for the RCMP shills Ray and Durnford and everybody knows they live on the Internet 24/7 Anyone can Goggle their names and mine N'esy Pas?


    Lou Bell
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    Reply to @Ray Oliver: Tha " Dave whiner line " . Home of the Tony's and James and Joe's and Paul's ! the conspiracy theorists and their unfounded , uninformed , and ignorant rants from social media experts with no education no honest facts , just anything they can grab off the other uneducated experts .


    Lou Bell 
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    Reply to @David Amos: Just tap Dave and " Fiction " or " UFO " !


    Ray Oliver 
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    Reply to @David Amos: All your emails are blocked or go to the spam bin. Why do you need to give the history lessons when attaching hotshot lawyers or cops names as if you're on a personal level with them? Is that part of your condition?
     

    Lou Bell
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    Reply to @Ray Oliver: I'd say Dave'll be here till the " cows come home " but apparently the cows are " on a planet , far , far away ," and not sure when Scotty's gonna beam them back down to planet earth !


    David Amos 
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if folks truly wish to giggle they should tap in Lou Bell Higgy Cardy butter tarts N'esy Pas? 
     

    David Amos
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks when the cows do come perhaps you should ask them to tap Tim Hortons Hampton RCMP so they can get a good laugh at your malicious nonsense last night N'esy Pas? 


    Lou Bell
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    Reply to @David Amos: Huh ? 


    Ray Oliver
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    Hes trying to intimidate you as he saves all these back and forths on his blog for his future cases hes busy building in some guy near Frederictons tool shed. Booooo 


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its fairly obvious that your desperate buddy "Ray' ain't got the first clue where I am but your hero Higgy's buddies in the RCMP in Hampton and Sussex certainly do N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver 
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    Reply to @David Amos: You sniff an election coming up so must be hunting for some new digs in the Fundy Royal riding for a magical run to the Legislature. Will they let you in the building if you win ya think?


    Lou Bell  
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    Reply to @Ray Oliver: not sure what he's talking about with Hampton . I did read in the Newspaper the other day where Minister Cardy indicated there were unsigned messages of advice left for him in an aquaintenances mailbox though ! Kinda lacks intestinal fortitude I'd think , not only to not sign them , but also to not just deliver them to who they're intended for .


    David Amos
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: However trust I will return to Fat Fred City to file 3 more lawsuits when the time is just right. Methinks any old mechanic would agree there is magic in good timing N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver 
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Its the Famous Amos butter tart recipe his clan has had tucked away for centuries..


    Lou Bell  
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    Reply to @Ray Oliver: A win would be getting at least 15 votes ! Let's see , there's Tony and James , and Paul , and Joe. Might be one or two more , but that's it 


    Lou Bell 
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    Reply to @Ray Oliver: Move over Colonel Sanders , Private Butter Tarts is a comin' !


    David Amos 
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its clear that you don't have the first clue as who I am do ya but I trust that your lawyer does N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver 
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Well give him a touch of credit he placed better than the candidate who ran on a knot sea platform last showdown.. movin on up! Rob Moore watch ya back!!


    David Amos 
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: "Private Butter Tarts is a comin"

    Methinks you have it backwards on purpose it was Cardy and his buddies who sent me the butter tarts in the Canada Post before the election in 2018 and I posted the signed note and his emails about it on the Internet before i ran in Sussex against Northrup. The RCMP and everybody else knows that N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver 
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    Reply to @David Amos: And now you're sending along your own recipe cause their tarts just weren't satisfactory. That's mighty neighborly of ya!


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP must have noticed that I am not feeding their tr o ll this evening N'esy Pas?


    Lou Bell 
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    Reply to @David Amos So that's the " Butter tarts " story ! : I never got Butter tarts ! Ray , did you get Butter Tarts ? Ray and I should be the ones complaining if that's the case ! Of course I wouldn't have seen it on social media . I don't believe in that false crap ! People need to stay away from that stuff. Conspiracy theorists abound on those websites ! Tweety uses them in America and we all know about him .


    David Amos
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks thats your problem not mine N'esy Pas? 
     

    Lou Bell
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    Reply to @David Amos: If the Liberals had gotten in I would have gotten a 130 Million Dollar bill for some " Phonie Games " ! And NO Butter Tarts to boot !


    David Amos 
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if you had bothered to check my Twitter account long ago you would have discovered that I have making you rather infamous simply byway of republishing you words within the blog your buddy "Ray" (likely Dean Roger Ray or his buddy Dan Durnford ) is harping about tonight N'esy Pas? 
     

    Ray Oliver
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    Reply to @David Amos: I live in your beloved Fundy Royal riding. You aren't doing much to win my vote next time around methinks




















    A G
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    Has the doctor who started this cluster been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter yet?


    David Amos 
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    Reply to @A G: WOW

























    David Amos
    Methinks all the usual suspects who argue every issue within the Crown's forum 24/7 should consider investigating matters for themselves instead of attacking folks trying to inform them of what they know about Higgy's Police State N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: You dig to the heart of what's really going on. You've got the inside track. More importance and respect in your pinky toe that the rest of us EH??


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: You're a heckling spammer who's been told to cease and desist on a daily basis 
     

    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: David is a great contributor in a democracy. Refreshing to read his logical views.


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Check his blog where hes gonna do some light bounty hunting for Whitey Bulger. Or his cows being killed by laser beams. Or his wire tap tapes he found in an FBI dumpster that could take down a sitting president. LOGICAL. LOL.


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: methinks you have had a few to many cold ones this evening


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Its all there for anyone to read. I wish I was joking. 
     

    David Amos
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks rather obvious that if your buddy "Ray" truly thought I was you he would not have spent all day arguing you about a virus N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: No when someone makes a ridiculous point I feel I can chime in. Again.. this isnt all about you big shooter


    David Amos
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: How much do you know about what your buddy "Ray" is referring to?

    "Check his blog where hes gonna do some light bounty hunting for Whitey Bulger. Or his cows being killed by laser beams. Or his wire tap tapes he found in an FBI dumpster that could take down a sitting president. LOGICAL. LOL."


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Do you even know who Byron Prior is??? 
     

    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: Didnt an officer say he spotted Bulger in Nfld? Yet he had been living in California in the same condo for 16 years. Can you get any further from Nfld in North America than that? Alaska maybe? LOL. Bounty Hunter what a good laugh. You know it's illegal in Canada right? 


    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP in Alberta should do a wellness check on their shill Dean Roger Ray N'esy Pas? 


    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP in BC should also pay a visit on Bryon Prior's other buddy Dana Durnford as well N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks that anyone can read your blog pull out the goodies then fire it out here. Anyone can do this the way you refer people to it.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Can't stop laughing ! You and Dave !!!


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks i have the right to say the same about you and your buddy "Ray" N'esy Pas? 
     

    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: CRY ME A RIVER. Sound familiar famous amos the bounty Hunter extraordinaire??


    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its interesting that you claim to not follow "social media" but claimed something else to another dude yesterday N'esy Pas?

    Reply to @Matt Steele: Dave has a social media fan I see ! A couple , you and Terry .


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @David Amos: Ray is not my buddy



    David Amos

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    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: and you are not me CORRECT???


























    Tony Mcalbey
    Covid19 is right up there as the hoax the WMD’s in Iraq was. I know no one who knows anyone with or had covid19.


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Not surprised . Few friends is a symptom of knowing no one with the virus .


    Lou Bell  
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ah Dave's got a new recruit for the " Me Party " to follow his blog . That makes ONE believer follower of his social media false narrative social media rants .



    David Amos
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Yo oh ye whose many words often go "POOF" If your buddy Ray truly lived in Fundy Royal methinks he would have informed you that the RCMP harassing people at Timmies was a true story



    David Amos
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Last night you claimed to know nothing about my Twitter and blogger accounts CORRECT? Methinks you must have found them today N'esy Pas?


    Lou Bell  
    Reply to @David Amos: Never read a word from either and never will ! Same with FAUX News and all the other false narrative media sites . Although my intimating that you now have one follower in Tony appears to confirm I was right ! Congrats on that one ! Joe and Jane and James and Paul are potential false narrative " social media experts " who you should reach out to ! The types of ringers Trump goes after .


    Justin Time 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Tell that to the 7,915,941 people worldwide that have been infected and don't forget the 433,182 that have died.


    Lou Bell  
    Reply to @Justin Time: Those numbers are way too big for Tony 



    David Amos
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should have your lawyer review all your published words At least your hero Higgy and his buddies in the RCMP have my emails and knows where to find a true record of your malice Nesy Pas?


    Fred Brewer
    Reply to @Justin Time: And it is widely believed that those number are on the low side due to countries that just don't want to admit the real numbers and because many have passed away probably from covid but were never tested.



























    Terry Tibbs
    So Mr Higgs, still no word when the tax paying, law abiding, residents can hold a funeral for their deceased loved ones, but we can host tourists from Quebec?


    James Smythe 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Family is non-essential Terry, didn't you hear? Unless you're all protesting together of course. Protip: rename your funeral a "protest", then proceed as normal.


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @James Smythe:
    Or maybe a healing walk and the government will cover the air fare and expenses?


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Higgy must be upset at us nbers. I think a lot more people will be leaving the province. Then govt wonders why young people leave, few good paying jobs and now govt be over controlling.



    David Amos 

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    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks your buddy Ray who claimed to live in Fundy Royal last night is no doubt packing his bags today and booking the next flight to Alberta or BC before Higgy orders the minions in his Police Sate to do a wellness check on him just like the RCMP pulled on me 12 very long years ago N'esy Pas?

    "Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: I live in your beloved Fundy Royal riding. You aren't doing much to win my vote next time around methinks"



    David Amos 

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    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you would have enjoyed the circus with Lou and her buddy Ray late last night before it went "Poof" N'esy Pas?


    Lou Bell  
    Reply to @David Amos: No one cares about the leader of the " Me Party " ! There over 749,999 other people to look after ! The " Me Party " is a self centered one person party that has no interest in helping the other 749 ,999 N.B.ers !!!


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: 83 % of N.B. ers approve of Higgs and the job he's doing ! BEST in Canada ! Other than the Liberal backed Zone 5 COVID has pretty wll been a no show here in N.B. ! People will be coming to the Province ! Safe and secure and as long as we keep the SANB Liberals and their underhanded exploits away from the provincial coffers we'll be doing great ! Being one of the 17 % dissenters isn't much of a confirmation for anyone to accept any ignorant and uninformed ramblings from one of those dissenters !



    David Amos 

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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks folks will believe that you must be arguing with a ghost N'esy Pas?


    Terry Tibbs 
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Don't worry about Lou. A broken clock is right twice a day, and holds a record that Lou aspires to.



    David Amos 

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    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Oh so true Check my blog with the following title if you wish to chuckle all day

    "Methinks Higgy's Circus must go on and on and on N'esy Pas?"


    Lou Bell  
    Reply to @David Amos: What a joke ! The blog everyone's laughing at !


    David Amos 

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    Reply to @Lou Bell: True but you are one of the clowns they are laughing at


    Fred Brewer 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: You are free to leave anytime Tony. I hear Montreal and Toronto are nice, especially if you think covid is a hoax.




























    James Smythe
    Here are your CDC statistics from the US (population 330 million), where I'm sure we can all agree handled Covid much worse than we did in Canada, breaking down mortality per age group, current as of June 6, 2020: (2.11 million cases to date)

    mortality as % of positive case #
    Under 1 year old: 5 0.000237
    1 - 4: 3 0.000142
    5-14: 13 0.000616
    15-24: 116 0.005498
    25-34: 640 0.0303
    35-44: 1649 0.782
    45-54: 4588 0.217
    55-64: 11,439 0.542
    65-74: 19,857 0.941
    75-84: 25,520 1.21
    85+: 31,778 1.51

    What you may notice from the data set, is that older people are more likely to pass away. And this holds true for natural causes, and all other infectious diseases. You can all calm down now. We've handled it better in Canada, your risk is likely lower than the chart presented. Can't wait for all the confirmation bias displays below this comment.


    Bob Smith
    Reply to @James Smythe: Uh huh...how's that data for vaccinations for the Covid virus? Oh, right, none. I know that anyone treating this as serious is a waste of time when talking to folks like you so I'll ignore you from now on.


    Richard Cyr
    Reply to @James Smythe:
    +10 likes for crushing their illusions.


    David Amos
    Reply to @James Smythe: Well done 
     

    Lou Bell
    Reply to @James Smythe: Your uninformed figures say nothing about those who will suffer from the long term affects of having COVID. All you have is the deaths , not including what is speculated to be thousands more who died and are now suspected to have had COVID ! You're the expert , tell us how many who had the virus and are now being revealed as having damage done to multiple organs ! C'mon Jimmy tell us !!!


    Fred Brewer
    Reply to @James Smythe: Too many people are way too focused on only mortality of the elderly, and are ignoring the possibility of permanent organ damage to covid survivors of all ages. The doctors are becoming increasing worried about things like lung damage and a shortened life span as a result of contracting covid 19. Covid is also believed to be responsible for severe health issues that are cropping up in small children.


    James Smythe 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: They’re not uninformed Lou. It’s 3 months of aggregate data directly from the CDC, accurate as of less than a week ago, and compiled in a country who has done a worse job than Canada. You are displaying confirmation bias and preferring to remain in fear. If you are 54 and younger like I am, you have a 99.8% chance of survival, and the healthier you are, the greater the chance you’ll live. Period.


    James Smythe  
    Reply to @Fred Brewer: I think people like yourself are far too focused on the rare complications. That’s all the media reports, the exception. You never hear about the many people who had mild symptoms only and survived without long term effects. We were lied to, and I know that’s hard for you to process, but politicians lie, so does the news sensationalize, and numbers don’t lie.


    Fred Brewer 
    Reply to @James Smythe: Ever try Dr. Google for information about the long term effects of covid on survivors? Please, do us a favour and only rely on credible sites when you do your research on permanent effects of covid on survivors.


    Justin Time
    Reply to @James Smythe: Using the CDC numbers you refer to when the total US deaths were 95,608, and using the age group 45-64, which represents the largest portion of New Brunswickers (30%) there were 16027 deaths in the US in that age group. Thats out of a total of 95,608 deaths at that time. Thats 16.8%. The 85 + age group showed 31,778 deaths or 33.2%. So it's not just the elderly that are dying.



    David Amos
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    Reply to @James Smythe: Methinks the supporters of Higgy's Police State suffer from deliberate cognitive dissonance after partaking of Cardy's butter tarts supplied by Big Pharma and served by little Lou a neigbour of his near Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?



























    Paul Milner
    This headline is so misleading. 80 and 90 year old are not dying of CV. They are dying of old age/ complications. CV is the straw that broke the camel's back, that's all. All these ridiculous headlines do is stoke irrational fear. Comorbidity should be reported as its own statistic. Meanwhile in NB over 3000 people have died of other causes this year.




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    Justin Time
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Any of the websites reporting Covid statistics will show you the 8.1% death rate for known cases. The other numbers on age expectancy come from another news article on CBC. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid19-elderly-deaths-1.5542967


    David Amos
    Reply to @Justin Time: Do you believe everything CBC tells you?


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: Why comment and play on their news page if you don't read it for current pertinent Provincial information? Methinks you just here to pump your own tires as a great politician and legal beagle!!! 

     
    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: methinks you’re jealous


    Fay Briggs 
    Reply to @Jackie Barret Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell have nothing to apologize for they did not release the persons name. They just said it was a health care worker at the hospital. Social media and CBC decided it was Ngola. They are the ones who need to apologize to this man.


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Hes a couch surfing user who plays helping the downtrodden for a place to stay and mooch off of. How's Byron making out buddy he see any justice at the hands of Just Dave?


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Far from jealous if you see the spamming and CCs on emails he fires around annoying people who could care less about the nonsense. I feel hes jealous of them as he will soon be totally forgotten 
     

    Tom Campbell
    Reply to @Paul Milner: Without the restrictive measures, the numbers would have been much higher. Everyone should knot this by now.


    Tom Campbell 
    Reply to @Denis LeBlanc: Couldn't agree more. These posters have been hammering these repetitive posts out for over 3 months even though there is evidence to the contrary in numerous countries. 
     

    Tom Campbell
    Reply to @Fred Brewer: That's the case in Hamilton.


    Lorne Allen
    Reply to @Justin Time: The 8 years figure is an average, some will live 1 more day, some will live 12 more years or longer. It is most likely that those who die with covid were on the short side of that statistic. it is a good argument though if not looked at critically.   
     .

    Johnny Almar
    Reply to @Jackie Barrett: He is 100% responsible. The only thing he has told the truth about was not being patient zero. His daughter was.


    Justin Time 
    Reply to @David Amos: If you do enough looking you can distinguish fact from fiction , unfortunate for some. N'esy Pas? butter tarts, lawsuits, medicare card, harley davidson, police state, mafia, massachusetts, nova scotia, alberta, rcmp, etc.


    Fred Brewer 
    Reply to @Paul Milner: " most of us already had it and are fine?"
    And where did you come up with that fact? Most of us have NOT had it and those that have had it, could have lifelong health issues and some doctors suspect a shorter life span.


    Fred Brewer 
    Reply to @Jackie Barrett: "Dr. Ngola revealed based on investigative evidence that he was not responsible for New Brunswick's second COVID-19 wave."

    So that's it? Just because he says he was not responsible we have to believe him? Since we know he was untruthful to border officials about the purpose of his trip and was evasive when questioned, his credibility is shot. If he was not responsible, then there will be a lawsuit and in court the truth will come out. Until then, when I look at all the evidence, I see his actions as the cause of the current outbreak of covid in zone 5. Patient Zero was his daughter.


    Mary Smith
    Reply to @Fred Brewer: Also, Patient Zero or not, he was irresponsible and not forthcoming and broke the emergency rules and should have isolated upon re-entry to NB. No one claimed he was patient zero, he started saying that as a way to deflect from everything else. He's evaded questions still regarding what he told the border guards, and what they told him.

    I do hope they'll be a lawsuit, and all the facts will come out in court. Whether he was patient zero or not, does not change the fact that he violated the emergency public health rules, putting all of NB at risk.

    He got caught, and is now trying everything he can to save face, but he did what he did, and that is fact and he admits that he did not isolate upon returning from a personal trip, and that alone is enough for the backlash against him - regardless of if he was sick or not, or patient zero or not, or if his child was patient zero or not.


    James Smythe
    Reply to @Fred Brewer: I mean, you believe the news that there's a serious pandemic going around, so that statement should be all you need to hear since you're so willing to believe what you've been told.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Justin Time: And your point is???


    Justin Time
    Reply to @David Amos: My point is that I follow the old school rule of "Believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see." Learn to filter information and fact check.


    Paul Milner 
    Reply to @Tom Campbell: so what if it's way higher? A lot more people would need to die before this was an actual "crisis." Certainly nothing close to the scope of what we've done to suffocate this rural province. The situation in NB could never be as bad as Italy, NYC, Montreal even if we tried. We are simply set up so differently. It's a broad brush to paint all of us the same way and it's simply not warranted.



    David Amos

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    Reply to @Justin Time: That is why I never believed anything you posted because you broke the rules in this forum out of the gate by posting in a name nobody could believe At least you admitted that folks can Google me and sort out the truth from fiction for themselves Furthermore anyone can go to the Federal Court in Fat Fred City and pull my file Correct?


    Fred Brewer 
    Reply to @James Smythe: Your logic is faulty. The doctor is in a conflict of interest whereas the media is not.


    Tom Campbell 
    Reply to @Paul Milner: You keep right on beileving that. With half the population sick at once there wouldn't be any economy.


























    Bob Smith
    A few days ago, there were several comments saying, among other things, that Covid was only contracted by the elderly or already sick. Sad to see an article like this which shows otherwise. I hope this pandemic doesn't lead to more deaths in NB.


    JoeBrown 
    Reply to @Bob Smith: Whoever you reference was likely just playing with you. Irrelevant.


    Bob Smith
    Reply to @JoeBrown: No, they were quite serious in a "know it all" way.


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Bob Smith: Methinks that is an understatement N'esy Pas?


























    Lou Bell
    Very disturbing are the continuing cases with the Healthcare workers at the Hospital . May need to be addressed by Vitalite' . Their " different strokes for different folks " re Locums appears to be not working .


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Proof that the continuing cases at the hospital are due to in-coming locums vs infections already existing in Zone 5 = ?


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Could be . the big concern is that so far it's only been hospital staff . What happens when it gets to the patients . Also , how is the virus spreading amongst the patients in the long term care homes ? Person to person or is there any possibility it can be spread through the ventilation system ? Not sure if the home would have one or not .


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: home , not homes .


    JoeBrown 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Dementia patients are hard to keep safe because they don`t remember or understand anything. Lots of people in there have dementia and an earlier death had it so that might be why it is spreading. Most n homes in Canada that got an outbreak ended up with more and even lots of cases, fwiw.


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @JoeBrown: and why are we shutting down the economy for these people is not logical


    JoeBrown  
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: More cerb per capita in NB. Higgs has highest popularity so most people must like being broke or do not understand.


    JoeBrown  
    Reply to @Lou Bell: NS first case in 4 days at Norwood again. Half of them must be immune now but it is a big place and covid never stops.


    JoeBrown  
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Yeah, NS got another case in Norwood today, so those places are inevitable covid magnets but it is a different world outside and the shut down should end.


    Paul Milner
    Reply to @JoeBrown: You're spot on. How did we fall this far?


    doug kirby 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: have no idea why other than to force nb broke obviously...now the man is allowing Quebec in to travel which by the way is the correct thing to do ....however what is interesting to many people now is could the list be posted as to who higgs thinks is more important than the next and where is it written he has a say....there is more wrong than right happening now with this virus...unfortunately it got into a long term home and so sorry to hear but it will be contained and you will learn to live with this but my god people wake up....you seriously don’t have to be dictated to especially by a man who believes he is the prime minister or something.


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: You and I have the luxury of being able to feed ourselves, dress ourselves, bath ourselves and relieve ourselves without close contact from care workers. People in long-term care homes, not so much. I'm sure that staff are masking, gloving, sanitizing and doing as much as they can do to avoid the spread of infection. But nothing works 100%. The fact remains that every time a staff member tests positive, all the residents who were cared for by that worker are at risk. Every time a resident tests positive, all the workers who cared for that resident are at risk.


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @doug kirby: "especially by a man who believes he is the prime minister or something" - I've never seen Higgs attempting to exercise control over the federal government, as the prime minister does. As premier - the prime minister's provincial counterpart - he has both the right and the responsibility to exercise control over the province, acting within the guidelines of provincial and federal law.


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should take a break and come on down sip coffee with Higgy's buddies at Timmies in Fundy Royal the RCMP won't bother you N'esy Pas?


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you should never forget that your hero Higgy asked his buddies the RCMP to put down their donuts and investigate what when down up north N'esy Pas?


    doug kirby 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: exactly guidelines....he should follow them 
     

    JoeBrown
    Reply to @Paul Milner: Easy to spread in homes, because virus is invisible and dementia patients are hard to take care of. They don't understand anything but need to be fed, get sick, make messes, won't stay still, some yell all the time, and need to be washed etc.


    Johnny Almar
    Reply to @Paul Milner: Trudeau and the WHO. Both are lost.



    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if you wish to review all that you posted last night your buddy "Ray" can teach you where to find it N'esy Pas?


























    Lou Bell
    So sad and so avoidable .


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: how avoidable? This virus been around for months. Government isn’t protecting taxpayers


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: If you understood the rules and how they work , someone broke the rules and this all happened ! Has been in the news for a month ! Pay attention .


    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Lou Bell: no way 1 person infected that many, impossible


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Nfld? A couple months back? Where you been?


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: And 1 person can give it to 8.. those 8 take it home to their family and friends.. it becomes exponential. It all starts with 1 to cause a flurry of cases again in any area


    Bob Smith
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Newfoundland funeral...Nova Scotia and the Northwood home. Quebec's disastrous decision to reopen schools during the pandemic. Want more examples?


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: can’t blame 1 for infecting all


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: If the virus is known to have been under control and someone who breaks the known rules is the reason it revives again.. then yeah. I sure can. Be in the bridge protest or one whiny doctor


    Fred Brewer
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Have you not heard of the term "super spreader"?
    In essence when the doctor saw 150 patients and interacted with hospital staff, shopped for groceries and did his errands while he was infected, he became NB's first super spreader.


    Justin Time 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Wrong. Catch up on the news. There are super spreaders and just remember one infected person started this whole thing.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks you must understand the wannabe constable's wicked little game by now N'esy Pas?


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: A game you'll never win Methinks. Sorry. Me knows!


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @David Amos: Why you responding to yourself on here? Can't you have that "wicked" little chat with Tony right in your own head? Or is it a packed house up there tonight? 
     

    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: you should know by now you’re wrong


    Ray Oliver 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Hiii Dave. Dont make it so obvious. Rub those 2 clues together try to run some different lingo. Not a soul would defend the guy.


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: You haven't been on as long as I've been calling out the "fierce political animal" as he calls himself. Yet you know so much. Hmmmm. Not hard to figure that out Dave Amos 2.0


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: "you should know by now you’re wrong"

    Methinks you should finally explain to me why you have allowed my political foes to falsely claim that I am you for so long N'esy Pas?


    Johnny Almar
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Lol. South Korea super spreader post lockdown. Google it.


    Johnny Almar 
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: Click on their profiles and then mute them. I just did.



    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks everybody should understand why I don't feel bad about the Johnny "Never Been Good" Almar muting me I bet the RCMP muted that snitch out of the gate N'esy Pas?



    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Methinks it very comical that Almar argues you then tells your buddy Ray that he muted you and I so he can't see our replies Talk about sticking one's head in the sand and leaving one's hind end high in the air N'esy Pas?






    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-virus-pandemic-roundup-1.5609379



    N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province confirms new case at Campbellton hospital

    The new case involves a health-care worker in their 40s who works at the hospital


    Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jun 12, 2020 12:45 PM AT



    Public Health has confirmed one new case of COVID-19, a health-care worker at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

    Public Health has confirmed one new case of COVID-19 at the Campbellton Regional Hospital after announcing two health-care workers tested positive for the virus on Thursday.

    The new case is an individual in their 40s, who is also a health-care worker at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. Vitatlié Health Network confirmed a health-care worker at the hospital was diagnosed with the virus on Wednesday.

    "When outbreaks occur, it reminds us that we need to continue our efforts to prevent the spread of COVID-19," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health in a news release.

    "We need to maintain physical distancing and practise good hygiene everywhere we go to avoid new outbreaks. We can be kind and continue to support each other through this pandemic."

    28 active cases of COVID-19

    There are 28 active cases in the province.

    The first in a cluster of cases was reported May 21 in the Campbellton region, also known as Zone 5, after a doctor travelled to Quebec for personal reasons and did not self-isolate after returning home to the area. Many of the cases have been found at Manoir de la Vallée, a long-term care facility in Atholville.


    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, is reminding residents to wash their hands and continue physically distancing themselves from others. (Government of New Brunswick/Submitted)

    One resident of the Manoir has died. Five people from the region are in hospital, one of them in intensive care.

    There have been 154 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, with 125 who have recovered from the respiratory illness.

    As of Friday, 36,125 tests have been conducted.





    There could be more unknown cases lurking, epidemiologist says

    An epidemiologist is warning New Brunswickers that there might be more cases of COVID-19 across the province.

    The province has seen a cluster of new cases of the respiratory illness over the past two weeks in the Campbellton region, but Dr. Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto, said some people could be asymptomatic or only have a minor case of the virus.

    "It would surprise me if we tested everyone in New Brunswick right now if we got zero positive cases," said Furness.

    "Even if somehow there's zero circulating COVID we have to remember it's only a car ride or a plane ride away from a new case landing in the community and that's the new normal for a little while."


    Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto, says there are likely more cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. We just don't know about them. (University of Toronto)

    Furness is warning New Brunswickers not to be cavalier about the COVID-19 virus, even if it looks like the outbreak is waning.

    "COVID isn't gone, it's in the background," he said.





    "And if we let it, it will come back. And it will come roaring back. And that's something that we're going to be coping with for some time."

    Furness recommends maintaining physical distancing and wearing masks while out in public, even advocating for making them mandatory for stores.


    This Fredericton entrepreneur from Dubai knew she’d have to shift her hijab business’s plan in order to survive the pandemic, so she started selling face masks. 2:26

    "My gut tells me that masks will prove to be important," he said, "And just by way of reminder, they're important because they help you keep your droplets to yourself so that you protect others and that others wearing masks protects you."

    Last week the province announced that masks would be mandatory in all indoor public environments, before backtracking on the decision within 24 hours.

    Furness said early studies have indicated that the virus is acting similar to other coronaviruses, meaning that there will likely be a lull of cases during the summer months.

    But that could also mean the potential of a second wave, which New Brunswickers will have to guard against.


    Furness says masks help people keep droplets to themselves during the COVID-19 era. (Elizabeth Fraser/CBC)

    "The good news is that even if we're not being disciplined we will have, I believe, pretty substantial protection this summer," said Furness.

    "The downside is that if we convince ourselves over the next three months that we've won and that we don't need to be vigilant we will set the conditions for a very vicious second wave in mid to late autumn."

    Furness said there are promising signs that a vaccine could be developed within two years, but cautions that you still need to manufacture about seven billion doses.
    In the meantime, governments will have to balance between implementing too many restrictions, which could lead to people not following any, and implementing too few, which could open us up for even more cases.

    Furness is also hopeful Ottawa will keep the Canada-U.S. border closed in coming months.

    "I think come the fall it's going to get awful," he said. "And I think this is going to be easily the largest loss of life in American history."

    What to do if you have symptoms

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.

    Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

    About the Author





    Elizabeth Fraser
    Reporter/Editor
    Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca
    With files from Jordan Gill

    CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices





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    Lou Bell
    Conspiracy theorists in full swing tonight ! RCMP goin' after Timmie coffee drinkers ! Aliens , cows , UFO's ! Must be a full moon tonight !!!


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should say Hey to Higgy and the RCMP in Fundy Royal for me sometime soon N'esy Pas?



























    Dave Corbin
    Will the RCMP allow us to have our Tim Horton coffee sitting in our own truck in the parking lot now or is it just the Tim Horton's in Hampton that we are not allowed?


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: when and why is this happening?


    David Amos
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: RCMP dudes working for Higgy's Police State have threatened people at the Tim's Sussex too
      
    Tony Mcalbey
    Reply to @David Amos: what on earth laws are Tim’s coffee drinkers in own vehicles breaking ?


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: Ask Higgy and the RCMP


    Michel Forgeron
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: As I understand it, If it's a family member it's ok, ,but a non family member would have to be in the back seat, if you have a back seat. Re other Tim's stuff, in some places you're allowed inside, now can sit at a table etc., as long as you keep 6' distance.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Michel Forgeron: FYI They both were sitting alone in their vehicles


    JJ Carrier
    Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Some Tim's are requesting you stay six feet away from David Amos...Something about hot air with no substance or coherent presentation besides his own 'egobubble' that causes your TimBits to explode...


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @JJ Carrier: Just the smell of him alone will give ya that 6 feet. Can't manage a haircut in 20 years or soo showering is most likely a biweekly event at best!


    Justin Gunther 
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: Not surprising that the CBC is allowing egregious personal attacks against certain individuals. If I suggest that somebody might have an IQ below 150 I get instabanned for being mean.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Sure they have ! The same people needing ER service nightly at the Sussex ER !!! It's so busy ! Busier than at Tims !!!


    Lou Bell 
    Reply to @David Amos: You're the guy spreading the GOSSIP ! You tell us


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Dave Corbin: Most likely Timmies doen't like nefarious looking characters hangin' around their businesses and called the Police !


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Tell us what they threatened them with Dave ! Tell us who and exactly what was said . Or , most likely , another social media conspiracy theorist .


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Lou Bell: "Trust that I called them and they can't deny we spoke" will be his response. Oh the worldly advice he must yield. I should give him my #. You hang up first. No you hang up Davey!


    David Amos
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks anyone call Google Tim Hortons Hampton RCMP N'esy Pas? 
     

    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XoJJF7ImcM

    "I have an incredible update to the story of Walter Matheson. He's the Hampton, New Brunswick resident who was ticketed almost $300 by police for failure to comply with emergency measures in a Tim Hortons parking lot while he ate his muffin and finished his coffee, completely alone in his car."


    David Amos
    Reply to @JJ Carrier: Methinks its not surprising that a lot of your nasty friends use fake names but at least I know that you don't N'esy Pas?


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: "Tell us who and exactly what was said"

    Methinks even your nasty no-name buddy Ray or his MLA Mr Oliver can pick up their smart phones and say "Hey Google" then ask about the RCMP in Hampton and Mr Matheson N'esy Pas?






























    James Smythe
    What about the Great Wave of Kanagawa? Why is nobody talking about that?!


    Evelyn Gaudreau
    Reply to @James Smythe: humour is a very subtle art... not all attempts succeed.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Evelyn Gaudreau: Methinks its hard to love a critic N'esy Pas?


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Some , not mentioning any names , have no clue about what they're criticizing , just wanna hear themselves complain .




























    JoeBrown
    "My gut tells me that masks will prove to be important," he said, "And just by way of reminder, they're important because they help you keep your droplets to yourself so that you protect others and that others wearing masks protects you."
    This is why the virus will never go away despite the fact this simple solution exists to cut spread. Most people don't care about others so won't mask up.


    June Arnott
    Reply to @JoeBrown: yup, selfish Canadians abound.


    David Amos
    Reply to @June Arnott: So you say


    Tristin Time 
    Reply to @June Arnott: So you think masks are the cure for this virus?


    JoeBrown
    Reply to @Tristin Time: If she did believe that, she would have said that.


























    Michael Guravich
    Hey, CBC, you need to separate yourselves from that lynch mob that wanted to crucify the doctor “that travelled to Quebec”. If you don’t know by now, there’s credible information that he may have had nothing to do with the recent Region 5 cluster. Get yourselves caught up and stop peddling that Higgs hysteria. There were lots of others going back and forth across that bridge, every day.


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: well said


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: There's a huge difference between participating in a "lynch mob" that wants to "crucify" someone - anyone - and holding people accountable for their actions. Whether or not the doctor was patient 0 is under investigation. It *is* known that he lied to border officials. And obviously he *did* have something to do with the Zone 5 cluster: he was one of the earliest cases involved in it. The use of inflammatory language, whether pro or con, does nothing to clarify the situation.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: His P.I. came up with a few " scenarios " that " could possibly have happened " ! It very may have been his child ! I believe he/ she was the 1st person announced ! And who was responsible for bringing her in from Quebec ? He lied to border officials and who knows all else that he did ! I'll trust those responsible for the contact tracing than some spin doctoring paid P.I. brought in to claim otherwise !


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Lou Bell: "I believe he/ she was the 1st person announced !" - We know that the first person announced was a child, both of whose parents were healthcare workers. I've never read a credible source stating that these parents were in fact the doctor and his wife. I'd respectfully suggest that this is the kind of speculation we need to put on hold while the investigation proceeds.


    Lou Bell
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: As I said , I have faith in the contact tracing that was done by the Dept. of Health and they haven't said or done anything that would indicate there's anything different ! The only thing we've heard is his HIRED P.I. said there could be other scenarios. If it wasn't him I'd bet my money it was his child . Funny the P.I. made no mention of that !


    Filip Krynick 
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: "Ngola said he drove straight there and back with no stops and had no contact with anyone" now he's saying that people he came contact with in quebec are tested negative... so was it no contact or with contact.


    Chris Jones
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Why would you have faith / trust for people responsible for contact tracing, when it's clear they don' t have (or haven't released) any hard evidence. It's complete speculation at this point. There's been no charges laid to this point, which indicates they don't have the firm evidence to say it was the Dr in question.

    There's a reason why the justice system is "Innocent until proven guilty". There's certainly flaws within the court systems, but it's still a hell of a lot better than vigilantism rules and accusations.


    Monsieur Rioux
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: Could somebody clarify please. Was it not reported that after the second long period with no new cases, a child (with a connection to do different day cares) was a new live case and that the child's parents didn't understand how because they had taken all precautions.
    Were we not then told that a doctor had travelled outside the province, had misled the border officials and then failed to self isolate, followed by the revelation that the doctor was the child's father?
    While people have been unable to visit ill and dying relatives and even attend funerals LOCALLY, the child's mother saw fit to fly to another continent for a funeral with the doctor facilitating this action, potentially coming back into NB two people with the virus (he and child), with neither isolating.
    Am I remembering this incorrectly or was it reported this way but then retracted?
      
    Monsieur Rioux 
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I believe it was eventually reported, a few days after the news about the doc surfaced, on these very pages that it was father and child.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: YUP


    Carlson MacKenzie  
    Reply to @Lou Bell: " I'll trust those responsible for the contact tracing than some spin doctoring paid P.I. brought in to claim otherwise !"

    You didn't include the keyboard cowboys who no doubt get their impressive knowledge from the flatulate wind that blows when they raise a leg slightly from their chair.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Oh My My


    Carlson MacKenzie 
    Reply to @David Amos: Look! There's one now!


    Graham MacNab 
    Reply to @Michael Guravich: What credible information? The info from the Private Investigator that he hired?


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Monsieur Rioux: According to Dr Ngola, as reported by the CBC June 2, he was contacted on May 25 and told that one of his patients had tested positive. He then had himself and his daughter tested. They too both tested positive. However, the first case of COVID in the outbreak, the case of a child who'd attended two different daycares, was reported May 21. Therefore this child was not the doctor's daughter, because she wasn't tested until the 25th or 26th (assuming that the doctor is telling the truth re: her testing date, but he'd be foolish to lie about something so easily verifiable). It *might* be that the child in the first case was another child of the doctor's, but I've never read this in any reliable source.


    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Graham MacNab: If you read Dr Ngola's statements to the CBC closely, *all* that the PI found was that there are other possibilities to Dr Ngola being patient 0. Until these possibilities are investigated further, we simply don't know whether or not the doctor was patient 0. 
     

    Monsieur Rioux
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: When the child's positive test was announced, it came with "both parents are health care workers at the hospital" and then when it was announced that a health care worker at the hospital had previously been out of NB and back without isolating and had returned with his daughter, one didn't need to be too cynical to assume that the child was his.

    However, a key factor is that with each announced subsequent positive test and contact tracing in the early cases, before it took hold in the care home, it was stated that each person testing positive had contact with the person reported previously who had failed to isolate upon returning to the province.

    My newspaper and CTV have reported one child only in this batch of positive results.


    John Oliver
    Reply to @Monsieur Rioux: If you travel to Longueuil and then stop to discuss job opportunities in Trois-Rivieres. I am going to be skeptical that you are not the source of the infection. It would be best if his ex-wife could be tested, as well. The child is potentially patient zero, not the doctor. He travelled as late as May 16.

    The Campbellton COVID-19 cluster started when a child in the Campbellton region was diagnosed on May 21. Five days later, an individual in their 90s tested positive in the same zone. The next day, the province announced a person in their 50s had tested positive.

    During the week of May 10, he drove to the Montreal suburb of Longueuil to pick up his daughter after her mother had to leave the country for a family emergency. There, he said he limited his contacts to the 4-year-old and his brother, who had been caring for her.
    On his way back, he stopped in the city of Trois-Rivières to meet with two fellow physicians for a discussion about the pandemic and possible future work in Quebec. A private investigator hired by Mr. Ngola’s lawyer said the meeting took place in a local clinic for about 20 minutes.


    SarahRose Werner 
    Reply to @Monsieur Rioux: Serious accusations - let alone legal charges - should never be based on assumptions.


    David Amos
    Reply to @Graham MacNab: Methinks your heroes in the RCMP cannot deny that over a year ago I made Higgy et al well aware that the Private Eye and i have old business from way back when he was the boss of IMET Obviously that was long before he took this latest gig on behalf of a traveling doctor N'esy Pas?





    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-cases-campbellton-region-1.5608069


    N.B. COVID-19 roundup: 2 employees at Campbellton hospital test positive

    There are 29 active cases of the respiratory illness in New Brunswick


    Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Jun 11, 2020 4:28 PM AT |



    Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, has said there will be more cases of COVID-19 in the future and residents need to remain vigilant. (Government of New Brunswick)

    The province will extend its state of emergency for another two weeks after Public Health announced two new cases of COVID-19 in the Campbellton region Thursday.

    The new cases are two employees at the Campbellton Regional Hospital. One person is in their 30s and the other is in their 40s.

    "All of the stakeholders at the Campbellton Regional Hospital are mobilized to ensure that everything is in place to provide quality care and ensure the safety of patients and staff," said Gilles Lanteigne, chief executive officer of Vitalité Health Network.

    "Our processes are in place, our staff are trained and have the personal protective equipment they need to do their jobs. I am confident that we will get through these difficult times."
    Three people have recovered from COVID-19 in the Campbellton region, keeping the total number of active cases in New Brunswick at 29.

    Since March, there has been 153 cases of COVID-19 in the province, including one death.


    Two staff members at the Campbellton Regional Hospital have been diagnosed with COVID-19. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

    "This is an evolving situation at the Campbellton Regional Hospital and everyone must watch for symptoms since COVID-19 is going to be with us for a long time," said Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health.

    As of Thursday, 35,753 tests have been conducted for the respiratory virus.

    Red Cross tries to help seniors feel less isolated

    The Red Cross is starting a program to help seniors feel less isolated during the COVID-19 outbreak.




    The Friendly Calls program will see isolated seniors matched with volunteers from the Red Cross.
    Volunteers will regularly call seniors to check in and talk. The goal is to reduce feelings of isolation in a group that is particularly at risk of COVID-19 and who might already have felt isolated.

    "It's just someone to talk to for those folks who have no one to talk to," said Bill Lawlor, provincial director of the Red Cross.
    "They don't have family around, at least in the Atlantic provinces. Or they don't have family at all. No one to provide that type of support."

    Seniors or their families can call the Red Cross and go through a short introductory interview to make sure they're a good fit for the program.

    After that, seniors are matched with a volunteer.




    "We find a volunteer who can meet the schedule, try to see if we can meet some similar personality traits as much as possible, and then we'll give it a trial run," said Lawlor.

    "If it continues to work well then they'll just carry on … if not, that's ok. We can switch out."


    Provincial Red Cross director Bill Lawlor said the new Red Cross program will help seniors feel less isolated during the COVID-19 pandemic. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

    While the goal of the program is to ease feelings of isolation, Lawlor said similar programs in the past have helped in other ways, such as detecting early stages of memory loss.

    "In the course of a conversation, you can start to pick up things that might suggest that someone is not feeling well, but they haven't made an appointment with their physician," said Lawlor.

    Lawlor doesn't have concrete numbers for how many volunteers are needed but is urging anyone interested to call the Red Cross.

    He also urges family and friends to talk to seniors about joining the program, particularly those who are shy




    "There's those folks who could really benefit from this interaction who you know they won't call," said Lawlor.

    "They don't feel they will benefit from it even though clearly they could."

    New Brunswickers encouraged to renew licences

    The province is urging people to renew licences, registrations, certificates and permits that had their expiration dates extended until the end of June due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Waiting until the end of June could cause delays, particularly for driver's licences, which take two weeks to process and be mailed out.

    The province said Service New Brunswick has been increasing the number of services it offers online and through Teleservices, especially for some of its most requested renewals, such as driver's licences.

    "Online and Teleservices are the most accessible, safe and convenient service methods," said Service New Brunswick Minister Sherry Wilson in a news release




    "Based upon the significant increase in these methods, we believe New Brunswickers are embracing them."

    Twelve centres offer in-person services, by appointment only, for things that cannot be completed online or through Teleservices.

    What to do if you have symptoms

    People concerned they might have COVID-19 can take a self-assessment on the government website at gnb.ca.

    Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing. In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

    People with two of those symptoms are asked to:
    • Stay at home.
    • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.
    • Describe symptoms and travel history.
    • Follow instructions.

    About the Author





    Elizabeth Fraser
    Reporter/Editor
    Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca
    With files from Jordan Gill


    CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices




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    David Amos
    Methinks as the stock market go down again all the MLAs, bureaucrats, unions and teachers etc regret allowig Higgy to put their money into a shared risk pension plan but at least my fellow taxpayers should be grateful that we no longer have to make for their losses like Victor Boudreau did with his budget in 2009 N'esy Pas? 



    David Peters
    Reply to @David Amos:
    What's with NB Power sending so many ppl home at Pt Lepreau and Coleson Cove? Warehousing patronage appointments all of a sudden has become unsafe?









    David Amos
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    Methinks the RCMP and their Fed bosses are beginning to figure out that Higgy cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone except Bruce Northrup N'esy Pas? 


    Terry Tibbs
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    Reply to @David Amos:
    We shut our entire economy down, lost all of our jobs and put ourselves in astronomical amounts of debt for a “disease” that kills less people than daily life does.
    It's past time to get back to normal and let the cards fall as they might.










    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks the RCMP and Higgy et al will enjoy their email tomorrow N'esy Pas? 


    Ray Oliver
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks they've been blocked from you for many many years. No one cares.











    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Methinks a critic who does not obey the rules of this forum and have the sand to use a real name is even more annoying N'esy Pas?  


    Tony Mcalbey
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: big time annoying








    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?








    Joe Doe
    Cleaning up the trash

















    Roy Kirk
    How do his private investigators know that they identified all of his contacts in Quebec? What incentive did he have to identify every contact. Could he even remember every contact? And even if this is accurate, how does it excuse his failure to isolate after his trip?


    David Amos 
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    Reply to @Roy Kirk: Methinks as we watch the stock market nosedive again you can bet thin Canadian dimes to fat Yankee Petrodollars that today I called the former RCMP BOSS OF IMET who is the special investigator in this matter and the doctor's lawyer and asked them some tough questions before I sent them and Higgy et al another email N'esy Pas?




























    June Arnott
    Hang in there CAmpbelton , New Brunswickers Do care.


    David Amos 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks if you had read another article or two about what going on up north you would understand that it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?





























    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?


    Joe Doe
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos: N’est-ce pas offensive to NB citizen. So annoying.


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Joe Doe: Methinks a critic who does not obey the rules of this forum and have the sand to use a real name is eve more annoying N'esy Pas?





























    Albert Wade
    Flew to Florida earlier in the week. Just back in NB, what's this about a border closure.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Albert Wade: Exactly 
     

    Joe Doe
    Reply to @David Amos: yes. Great point. It begins.































    Peter Smith
    Decreasing, n'est pas? Erasing is fun.


    David Amos 
    Reply to @Peter Smith: So you say 
     

    Joe Doe
    Reply to @David Amos: so I do.


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Joe Doe: You changed names again I see but you smell the same 


    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: Nope I'm still here but your fan club is growing. You are such a mo r on.
























    Glen Roberts
    Guess the border being closed is not really working ...even with your new authoritarian government...


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
    Really? The truth is offensive now?


    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Truth hurts


    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Glen Roberts:
    Well you see Glen, you close the border, then you invent reasons to let a select few in, than your buddy down the street needs TFWs, so you let them in too, so finally you end up with a border that is closed to only the law abiding taxpayers, but no one else.
























    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks Higgy is beginning to figure out that he cannot corner a virus and better than he can herd the cats in the legislature notwithstanding the fact that Cardy is now willing to share his butter tarts with anyone N'esy Pas?


    Tony Mcalbey 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Higgy can’t deny that


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Tony Mcalbey: My My Methinks its too bad so sad that so many nasty words go "Poof" before I can read them N'esy Pas?
      
    Peter Smith 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Your constant N'esy Pas is offensive.


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Peter Smith: Methinks you forgot to ask me if i cared what you think of me N'esy Pas?


    Peter Smith 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: I didn't care what you think. Just wanted you to know that you are offensive.


    Ray Oliver  
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you've got a real good idea on what I think of you by now EH. You are irrelevant in all areas of life. My guess is it's always been that way


    Peter Smith 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos:And I truly don't care if you care. Most people with Axis 2 disorders don't.


    Ray Oliver 
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: I'm so glad you have spell check using your phone. Your grammar on your blog is barely literate. Shows your actual level of intelligence.


    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Peter Smith: Methinks its not nice to make fun of Axis 2 disorders Hence you must be a Higgy supporter just like your buddy Oliver N'esy Pas? 


    Ray Oliver
    Content disabled
    Reply to @David Amos: Nice? Your behavior on here to pester people has gotten you your own taste of it. It's not nice of me at all. Trust that it's fun though LOL!! 


























    Johnny Almar
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    But the good doctor wants an apology. He’s a victim. : /


    Ian Scott 
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    Reply to @Johnny Almar: He could well be. I doubt the 2 current workers got it from him. So the timelines, patient, and family exposure are key. No one knows what Momma's status is as she is out of country. Cross border traffic is perilous given know one seems to know what the close by Quebec communities that are supplying Campbeltown workers are doing.


    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Johnny Almar: Methinks its high time that your buddy Higgy suggests that you went "Poof: again N'esy Pas?


    SarahRose Werner 
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Ian Scott: If the good doctor had nothing to hide, why didn't he come clean and tell the border officials that he'd been in Quebec for personal reasons? If they'd said he had to self-isolate and he didn't think he had to, he could have continued on home, called public health for clarification and then *done what public health told him to do.* If he'd done that, he would have been covered no matter whether new cases appeared or not. He's in a bad position right now because he got caught lying. He's a victim, all right - of his own poor judgement and dishonesty.
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