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Methinks whereas Gilles Lanteigne is heading out the back door he can say anything he wishes because he won't held accountable just like the last two bosses of NB Power N'esy Pas?


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Vitalité Health Network better prepared for second wave, says CEO

Gilles Lanteigne said hospitals are more prepared to handle the virus while still keeping up activity

Philip Drost· CBC News· Posted: Oct 06, 2020 6:28 PM AT
 
 

Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of Vitalité Health Network, said hospitals will be able to respond more easily to another outbreak. (Michel Corriveau/Radio-Canada)

The Vitalité Health Network is more prepared for COVID-19 than it was six months ago, according to network president and CEO Gilles Lanteigne.

"I would say that it's much more refined in the way that we were able to establish all proper linkages with our partners and work in a more integrated way with Horizon and the ministry," said Gilles Lanteigne.

The Vitalité Health Network had its board of directors meeting Tuesday afternoon, where board members heard a presentation on how the network has been able to handle the pandemic. 

A survey and series of interviews with Vitalité staff found the the network handled the first wave well, said presenter Gisele Beaulieu. 

People surveyed also said internal communication could improve as Vitalité looks ahead at a second wave. There was also a desire for more mental health services. 

Second wave


Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer of health, said New Brunswick's two new cases are in a special care home in Moncton. (Submitted)

Case numbers remain low in New Brunswick. Chief medical officer of health Jennifer Russell confirmed two new cases in the province on Tuesday. Both are in a special care home in Moncton.

But numbers across the country are rising.

On Tuesday, Quebec reported 1,364 new cases of COVID-19, which is the highest single-day total reported in the province. Ontario reported 548 new cases Tuesday and Manitoba announced 56 new cases. 

But Lanteigne is confident hospitals would be able to better handle a second wave.

"The difference I would say this time is that we are prepared but at the same time we are able to increase the level of activities in the hospital," said Lanteigne after the meeting. 

Lanteigne said if there is a second wave, hospitals will be able to respond more quickly. 

"We know that if we have to do a reset we can do it probably more easily than the first time," he said.

 

 
 
 
 
 
30 Comments 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Welcome back to the circus  
 
 
David Amos
Gilles Lanteigne won't call back and he won't write either. Neither will the new Health Minister Methinks they don't love me even though I paid my bills faithfully until the Vitalité minions refused to accept my debit card (They used to) I bet they are following Higgy's orders because no doubt they know i don' have a credit card or even Medicare card N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You've cried wolf to many times nestle crunch
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos: fake news
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Harvey York: trust me when I ran in the 69th parliament of blah blah blah and my wiretap tapes and my missing Harley in fat fred city and my Medicare card and and and... DAVE you are a sch izo!
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: do you need a medicare card to get a haircut dirty santa? Asking for a friend...
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @Ray Oliver: sorry pal, I don't trust anyone who's been in the slammer..
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Harvey York: me, in the slammer?
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @Ray Oliver: nope, the guy who uses the word "trust" ALL the time
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Harvey York: but he calls everyone in these articles to give his worldly advice and switch the narrative to his own achievements (or lack of).. he can clearly be trusted!!
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I just love that I pay massive taxes that funds our public broadcaster to allow guys like "that" a never ending platform of c r a p.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Harvey York: hes not responding most restaurants close around 11ish he needs to get down to the dumpsters early and get the prime pickings
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Peters
Imo, whatever these bureaucrats say, look for the truth in the opposite direction.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @David Peters: Oh So True
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Gilles Lanteigne, you simply inspire awe in me. You seem to have the ability to hang onto your job no matter how badly you do it............ one might *think* you really, really have got the goods on somebody really, really important.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks whereas Gilles Lanteigne is heading out the back door he can say anything he wishes because he won't held accountable just like the last two bosses of NB Power N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael durant
Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of Vitalité Health Network? Is this the same Gilles Lanteigne, president and CEO of Vitalité Health Network who proved himself capable of providing false narratives and cannot be trusted to speak truth?
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Michael durant:
The very same.
And those supposedly in charge wonder why we have started seriously doubting EVERYTHING they say..................
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Michael durant: Go Figure 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ian Scott: 
And ER's overflowing , no beds , and elective surgeries cancelled in Moncton all in last couple weeks are a well prepared system.? Even before the flu season starts on top of it all. The bed blockers are going where?
 
 
Mary Smith
Reply to @Ian Scott: I've been thinking about this a lot. Since those who are stuck in hospital with no where to go but can't be discharged, could they not go to a hotel? Maybe they could send those best fit to a hotel instead of waiting for a bed to free up at a Nursing Home. They're being billed about the same amount as a hotel if they're taking up a hospital bed they don't need, so there's no financial loss.

It's something to possibly think about, any way. If there's a shortage of beds in hospitals and nursing homes, and beds available in hotels since tourism and travel is down, and if it would cost about the same too, it could work.

The question is if they can be left alone in the hotel room or not ... maybe they could set up cameras to ensure they're okay, along with using a Life Line and help from At Home Caretakers or Extra Murals to check in on them to provide care as needed.

Bed blockers are a major issue that needs to be resolved forever ago.

The long term answer is complicated. Wage increases to make people want to work those jobs (I used to be an At Home Caretaker, but the pay wasn't enough to justify the stress of the job and it wasn't a living wage). They are underappreciated, over worked, over looked, and under payed. It causes a domino effect that impacts all of our ability to access healthcare. No beds = slow or no care. It impacts everything from ambulances to surgeries to severe wait times for patients. It's a lose lose for everyone.

Short term, right now answer could be leaning on those free beds at hotels for those who are better off and suitable for that sort of arrangement. They would need to be able to have some independent living to an extent, with some measures to provide care like Extra Mural and life line and possibly cameras.
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to @Ian Scott: Methinks the comical part is that since Higgy's latest election I am not permitted to pay my emergency room bills with my bank card like I used to do N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Simeon Elliott
Why do we have to burden the costs of two health care systems?
 
 
John Fullmer
Reply to @Simeon Elliott: Agreed let's make English optional.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Simeon Elliott: Why don't you go faux q yourself?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Jos Allaire: we will close medavie and jump on Vitalie? Would you even mind that or did you assume it meant your French one would be the one to be absorbed?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Jos Allaire: can we split this province in half and you people can have it all there? Where do I sign?
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks you can't take a joke because you are a Joker who does suffer the words of other fools too well N'esy Pas?
 
 
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @Ray Oliver: "you people". That's telling - you related to Don Cherry?
 
 
David Amos 
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Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Methinks many would agree that that tr oll is far worse that Cherry ever was N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Colin Seeley
Is being better repaired better than just being fully prepared.

Sounds like they are not fully prepared.
 
 
Mary Smith
Reply to @Colin Seeley: Campbellton hospital was a complete disaster. So of course they're "confident hospitals would be able to better handle a second wave" because the bar they set for the first wave was basically so non-existent that they couldn't contain Covid to the Covid ward.

It's easy to improve when you do so poorly the first time. The fact though that the "survey and series of interviews with Vitalité staff found the the network handled the first wave well" makes me worried that they continue to downplay and aren't taking responsibility or acknowledging how badly they dropped the ball for the first wave.

Hopefully they will indeed continue to adapt and improve when glaring problems with protocols are pointed out. If we can't keep Covid contained to the Covid ward, then we don't really stand a chance. They'll be no one left standing to take care of the ill, and that's how you have hospitals that collapse.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Colin Seeley: Methinks you really should as your hero Higgy what the difference is N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 11:51:33 -0400
Subject: YO Mayor Losier ask Norma McGraw or Higgy et al if I am a liar or not
To: info@tracadie-sheila.ca, "benoit.bourque"<benoit.bourque@gnb.ca>,
premier <premier@gnb.ca>, Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca, info@vitalitenb.ca,
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http://www.tracadie-sheila.ca/index.php/en/town-hall/mayor-and-town-council

First row: Denis Poirier (General manager), Denis Losier (Mayor) and
Joey Thibodeau (Municipal clerk)

Second row: Norma McGraw (Councillor -Ward 2), Dianna May Savoie
(Councillor - Ward 8), Réaldine Robichaud (Councillor - Ward 5),
Ginette Brideau Kervin (Councillor - Ward 4), Raymonde Robichaud
(Councillor - Ward 1)

Third row: André Saulnier (Councillor - Ward 7), Jolain Doiron
(Councillor – Ward 3), Geoffrey Saulnier (Councillor - Ward 6), Denis
McLaughlin (Councillor - Ward 7) and Jean-Yves McGraw (Councillor -
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-norma-mcgraw-resigns-vitalite-board-vice-chair-1.5476591

Vice-chair of the Vitalité health network's board resigns over health
reform plan

Norma McGraw left position Monday
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Feb 26, 2020 12:49 PM AT


"McGraw said Wednesday she felt "a moral obligation" to resign because
it wasn't possible to represent New Brunswickers on the board with a
lack of transparency.

Her announcement added more fuel to calls already made by several
mayors in the Acadian Peninsula that Lanteigne resign as CEO.

"All Gilles Lanteigne deserves is to be shown the door," Tracadie
mayor Denis Losier said Wednesday. His council passed a motion Tuesday
night calling for the CEO to resign.

Asked last week about the calls for him to step down, Lanteigne said
he welcomed a debate about ideas on health reform but said it
shouldn't be made personal.

McGraw said Wednesday that New Brunswickers should lobby for the two
health authority CEOs to be chosen by the boards, and not by the
provincial government."


 66 Comments

David Amos    10 hours ago
I have talked to Norma McGraw before. The nice lady remembered me
immediately when I talked to her again this evening She was curious
about what was being said of her in CBC but no longer cared about the
Vitalité health network doings because she had quit. Whereas she did
not care about my concerns with them I let he go to her council
meeting. I will likely never call her again. I did leave messages for
a couple other Town Councilors and the Mayor. One fella did call me
back but I was not impressed and doubt that he believed what I was
trying to tell him because he laughed too much at my plight. So I
decided to mind my own business and not care if Lanteigne keeps his
job and just continue with my plan to sue the government in order to
get my Medicare Card and my money back from Vitalité.

Lets just say i had enough of this Health Care BS after talking the
PANB leader on live Rogers TV and being cut off while the same dudes
allowed Higgy's buddy Chucky Leblanc go on and on for about 5 minutes
about his contempt for Vickers et al. « less

Marc Martin    3 hours ago
Reply to @David Amos: We don't care.

David Amos    1 hour ago
Reply to @Marc Martin: Who is we? You and Higgy?



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On 2/20/20, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA1KzEXJMR8
>
> Kris Austin, People's Alliance - Voice of the Province - February 20, 2020
> 19 watching now
>
> Rogers tv
> 32.1K subscribers
>
>
> David Amos​Too too Funny
> David Amos​Ask Chucky why i was barred from the leg 2 years before he was
> David Amos​Ask Austin what he thought of the email everyone including
> Chucky got on Feb 14th
> David Amos​Asdk Austin what he thinks of my lawsuit against the Crown
> David Amos​Chucky did attend one of the hearings because he and
> Vickers are mentioned in the lawsuit
> David Amos​I take false arrest very personally
>


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Subject: Re: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
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>>> David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> 02/14/20 19:29 >>>

Methinks it must be because of my recent comments in CBC about your
nonsense about emergency Rooms etc N’esy Pas???

Here is just a few that are recorded within my blog etc


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/02/deputy-premier-must-decide-whether-to.html


Wednesday, 12 February 2020

Deputy premier must decide whether to fall in line on health-care
reforms, Higgs says



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-doctor-sackville-hospital-emergency-room-closure-1.5462252


Doctor shortage forces overnight closure at Sackville ER

More er closures are possible before hours are permanently reduced on March 11

CBC News · Posted: Feb 13, 2020 11:32 AM AT



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David Amos
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Go Figure These are obviously not my Tweets but I did run against the lady


Chisholm Pothier
@chisholmp
·
Feb 10
The plan hasn’t even been announced yet and it’s already being
condemned. We know one thing for sure - we cannot keep delivering
Health the way we have. It isn’t sustainable with an aging population
and needs have changed with demographic change anyway. #nbpoli /1

Quote Tweet
Alaina Lockhart
@AlainaLockhart
· Feb 9
Premier @BlaineHiggs you can’t grow NB by reducing services in rural
areas. NB needs strong rural comms to thrive. The @townofsussex is key
to the region. You need to start thinking about the people impacted in
your quest to improve the bottom line.
https://twitter.com/nsteinbach_rc/


David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Chisholm Pothier no longer speaks for the
government Correct?









David Amos
Need I say I got a few calls after supper last night and the people
who called could tell I was pretty cranky about something? Trust that
what I heard on CBC this morning did not help my mood any..






David Amos
Methinks the real problem is that Higgy and Flemming can't get enough
bilingual folks who want to work within our Health Care System N'esy
Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks everybody knows since the time of
Trudeau The Elder New Brunswick has been a great place to grow up and
get an education but to find work most of our young ones must head
west somewhere on the far side of Quebec. If the truth hurts so be it
N'esy Pas?







David Amos
On CBC this morning I heard our mindless Health Minister direct folks
to the emergency room in another province. Methinks we have not heard
that last about that N'esy Pas??







Jim Cyr
The people of New Brunswick are some of the silliest people in the
world. It’s been hilarious to see almost all of them completely turn
off their brains and freak out over Higgs’ emergency rooms plan. The
people will now vote out the PCs, of course......just as their silly
media masters tell them to do. And so the NB medical/fiscal/poverty
situation will just get worse and worse and worse than it already is..
You can’t make this kind of stuff up, folks!! Amazing to see.
Mind-numbingly predictable and monotonous. It’s like kubuki theater at
this point.. BAD kubuki theater.....lol

David Amos
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks you may be cluing in as to why I call this
a circus If you can't find fun in the madness then you will go crazy
like they claim I am. Yea I'm crazy alright. Some say I'm crazy like a
fox others say I am just another narcissistic fool Hard telling not
knowing for sure but one thing is for certain I am having fun laughing
at all the people who laughed at me N'esy Pas?

However I can be as crazy as i want to be Higgy should ask the shinks
in the loonie bin of the DECH what they did with the wiretap tape of
the mob that I gave them in 2008 that the RCMP refuse to investigate.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Jim Cyr:
Silly? It's just plain "goofy". And once the CONServatives are gone,
having been exchanged for the Liberals, the process will repeat
itself, over and over.
Not one among us able to figure out the only end result is our pocket
remain empty.









Michael Durant
We need to begin serious talks with Doctors Without Boarders

David Amos
Reply to @Michael durant: Try again That one went over like a lead balloon

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Michael durant: borders








Yves Savoie
Get your popcorn ready!!! The circus has begun....

David Amos
Reply to @Yves Savoie: Wanna trade some of your popcorn for peanuts?

Methinks Trump and everybody knows I have been enjoying the circuses
on both sides of the 49th for many years from the peanut galley.
Trump's minions know that just before July 4th, 2002 within a
statement of Claim against an incredible number of Yankee lawyers I
promised that I would run in the next Election in Canada. I have
remained true to my word and have run 7 times thus far. I joined the
clowns in the centre ring no only to to add my two bits worth and but
to witness the high diving acts up close and personal. Trust that
Harper and Higgy et al know that i dearly love the splash just my kids
and I did at Sea World a long long time ago N'esy Pas?

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @David Amos: Kudos to that, and if you were in my riding you
would get my vote, fed or prov.

Lou Bell
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: That would give him 14 votes

Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: " Methinks trumps and everybody knows I have
been enjoy.. .... ...... " !!! You really think trump knows who you
are ?? Seriously ???????????

David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you want his lawyers cell number?

David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Better yet do you want me to give them yours so
you can say hey to your Yankee heroes who locked me up in 2004?

David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Thanks for the vote of confidence









Ben Haroldson
The Doctors are just helping to move things along. No sense waffling
if things are that dire.

David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: So you say







Terry Tibbs
What do you *think*? Coincidence, or not?

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks we all know the wicked game by now N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BTW I was born in the Sackville Hospital in 1952
and it saved my butt 3 years later when I went into a coma for a
month. Methinks for that reason alone I should raise hell to defend
it. Methinks it should be rather obvious that I quite simply don't
care what my cousin Megan Mitton and all her Green Party pals say or
do about it N'esy Pas?

Holly Mossing
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Not coincidence: ERs and Labour and Delivery
units have been randomly closing for years due to staffing issues.
That’s part of the problem, and this move will be part of the
solution. Government being responsible by listening to the health
authorities.










SarahRose Werner
How is the pool of doctors who provide nighttime ER coverage supplied?
Are these doctors who also work day jobs? Does staffing the ER
overnight make doctors less accessible to patients who seek service
during the day?

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Overnight Doctors come from the family
practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
night shift starts. After midnight, the ER is emergencies only, so you
will be triaged by a nurse, then depending on the triage, you may or
may not see a doctor.

This Friday, from how it seems, there will be no doctor at all; I'm
not sure if a tirage nurse will assess people however.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Apparently not, because the ER will be
closed entirely. Which makes sense because triage is a sorting
procedure, not a treatment procedure. The word "triage" comes from the
process of sorting battlefield patients into three levels: those will
recover even without treatment, those who will even if treated and
those for whom treatment will make a difference. If there's no one
available to provide treatment, there's no point doing triage.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: "Overnight Doctors come from the family
practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
night shift starts." - I'm not surprised that doctors who've already
worked during the day are averse to taking overnight shifts as well.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Why would they be "adverse"? If the "stories" told to us are true,
after supper the family practice doctor heads out to the ER for 7pm,
taking paperwork, or reading material, to catch up on.
Right around maybe 10, or 11pm they pull up a bed and have a snooze,
because there "might" be only 5 patients overnight, (this is "the
claim") maybe only one needing his/her attention, so the nurse can
wake him/her up as required. 7am the shift ends, doctor leaves fully
rested,12 hours pay richer.
In some cases, if the doctor lives real close, they go home, coming in
only if needed.

Holly Mossing
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yes, it does, which is part of the
problem. These are great shifts for doctors to pick up (quiet and pay
very well), but don’t help the health of local people overall because
the doc may see 5 urgent patients overnight but not be able to work at
see *25* the next day. That’s a big capacity issue.

David Amos
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Its a pity that nobody in Sackville would
listen to me this week

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: However I will disclose that the Office of the
CEO of one of our Health Care systems called me a few days before
Flemming's big announcement in order to reach an understanding as to
why I am going to file a lawsuitin order to get my Medicare Card and
other things. I have heard nothing but crickets since. Methinks they
think I am bluffing Others know I am not N'esy Pas?











Ian Scott
It would help if the management would outline what it takes to have an
ER open 24/7. I do not think a lot of the public has a clue as to what
it means to open an ER to all comers and the staff then needed to
cover all reasonable issues. You cannot confuse the public and
ambulances etc where to go each night if staffing gets short. It makes
it worse. If you staff with general practice then they must have
extended training in ER issues. Otherwise the next thing is the
complaint that things were not done . Then comes the standard
equipment needed for stroke trauma etc, like CT scanners etc. Even
appendectomy becomes an issue without ultrasound or CT. Its really a
standard of practice and it requires a service level that is very
difficult to reach in small centers. Otherwise you just end up
shipping people out again and delaying diagnostics and the right
treatment, some of which are time related. Would you want surgery for
something that is not needed? Or have blood thinners given when you
actually have a brain bleed etc.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: One thing I've been reading in comments on
stories on this issue is that people mention being "stabilized" in a
smaller centre before being shipped out to a larger one. Not being a
medical professional, I don't know what resources and skills are
required to "stabilize" patients. Is this something that could be
achieved in some other way, for example, by expanded and improved
paramedic service?

Ian Scott
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: That is the care in bigger centers, well
trained paramedics to stabilize at site and transport. Still most
stroke issues need CT before treatment. Heart issues may be
"stabilized" with drugs etc but transfer really is key for assessment
. Trauma , (major) , needs a trauma center. I am not sure how many
paramedics can intubate in the field at this point in NB but even an
acute asthma or allergic issue might need it. Its what has been
suggested. The numbers are small in many of these towns.Even having
those staff may prove difficult down the road. Helicopter Air
ambulance is another issue, complex and expensive but out there.
Freddy is a trauma center for a certain level , but even it only has a
snowfield for landing.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Okay, so if someone has a heart attack, acute
allergic attack, stroke, etc. in Sussex in the middle of the night and
that person needs some sort of immediate treatment to tide them over
until they get to the Saint John Regional, how is that provided? To
me, that's the crux of the issue here. I agree that 24/7 ER service in
all locations is not the answer. What are other possible answers?

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: In that situation, the patient will be
sent on to Saint John/Moncton (not sure which hospital in regards to
Sussex) regardless if they are stable or not.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Are there increased to the patient if
they're sent on without stabilization? What are those? What will be
done to ameliorate those risks?

Holly Mossing
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: There is a great study on this that showed
that cardiac patients who were “stabilized” at a small center then
transferred had worse outcomes and a higher death rate than patients
who bypassed their local ER and were brought directly to where they
could receive specialized care, for example. (
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28615177/ ). Advanced care
paramedics need to be normalized in New Brunswick and supported to
make health care as safe as possible. I’ve never voted Conservative
but in this case Higgs’ government is doing absolutely the responsible
thing. We need to make sure they follow through with increased daytime
services.

David Amos
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Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you must have read some of my
comments N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Hmmmm










Donald Smith
There has to be a reason, or reasons why NB Cannot attract them ???????

Mack Leigh
Reply to @Donald Smith: There definitely is however no one is allowed
to talk about the " Elephant " in the room.

Ian Scott
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Major centers are not really having that issue
except for OR constraints for time for some specialists and no beds
because of acute care bed blockers. Bathurst has excellent docs as
does Edmonston and they are better at language issues than the south.
Freddy and SJ and the Moncton centers also attract excellent staff.
Its in between that is the issue , and medicine has changed , as have
expectations and the standard of care. An ER is just that , all
comers, not a clinic. One has to meet rigid standards of care. And
those are hard to meet in 4k population or less towns and villages.
Aging issues are one of the biggest issues and its being met poorly.
Billing numbers are a thing of the past so not in the question. There
could certainly be some concern I suppose of young docs worried about
potential language issues but low.

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @Ian Scott: What people seem to forget is that Sackville,
while a population of 5000 including Mt. Allison students, also
services Dorchester, Memramcook, Port Elgin, Murry Corner as well as
we get patients from the Cape like Cocagne, Cap Pele, Shediac. We've
had people from Moncton and surrounding area come to our hospital in
increasing numbers over the past two years, even as far as Anagance,
AND we get people from NS as well like River Hebert and Amherst. It
isn't just NB, but NS we serve too.

So no, we don't have a 4K or less patient possibility, we have much
more than that.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Then maybe NS would like to contribute
some money to pay for overnight service at the ER.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Don't you believe for a moment they don't.
Show an out of province medicare card at a NB hospital and the eyes
light up like a one armed bandit hitting a jackpot.

David Amos
Reply to @Donald Smith: Everybody knows the reasons

David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: I do








Brian Robertson
This is just the logical next step in the deterioration of healthcare
under the thumb of a government administered monopoly.
When you have no money and no Doctors and costs are still increasing
because all your workers are members of public service unions that can
hold the public hostage; what else can happen?
The viability of single payer healthcare is based on the metering of
services in order to control costs.
Public needs and individual abilities to pay simply do not factor into
the equation.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Brian Robertson:
Hold the phone, Just STOP, and *think* for a moment, you have been
misdirected just like you are supposed to be.
EVERY other province, or territory, has "evil" union belonging health
professionals, this is not a NB only "thing".
We are supposed to be short of 100, maybe 200, health professionals
needed per capita (a different number pops out whenever those in
charge are asked).
We know the pay and benefits in NB are "short" hence the shortage of
health professionals.
Yet the cost of healthcare is higher (per capita) than every other
province, or territory.
So, either EVERYONE in NB is constantly sick, or the extra cost is
somewhere else other than with the health professionals.
I respectfully *think* you should be looking elsewhere.

Brian Robertson
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
All Provincial healthcare systems are following the same pattern
decline; except possibly Quebec who enjoys a lucrative infusion of
Federal transfer payments annually. New Brunswick just seems to be
ahead of the curve in terms of declining services and wait times.
There is more than enough blame to go around for this spiral trip
around the drain. Yes, and that includes your healthcare
professionals.

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks he knows you are correct Quebec is a
UNILINGUAL Province Hence its costs are less N'esy Pas?





John Pokiok
There you have it no Doctor wants to live in rural setting it's a hard
core fact.

Ian Scott
Reply to @John Pokiok: Thats not really true. Being an ER doc is a
different fish from a GP office setting. It requires an extension of
training.If you open an ER then you have every issue from Intubation
to trauma to poisoning, heart attack stroke, delivery etc. ER trained
docs are a separate entity . You are asking a GP to be everything and
have little backup and extended hours and then have a practice in the
community. It takes a serious block of staff to do this around the
clock. And to have surgical backups for obstetrics etc.And to then
live in communities with 4K people is not easy.

David Amos
Reply to @John Pokiok: Many do when they retire

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @John Pokiok: And yet we just had *2* doctors from US
background move to Sackville to practice. It's not a matter of no
doctors wanting to move to rural areas.

David Amos
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Maybe they are willing to cover the midnight shift




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Subject: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
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<Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "geoff.regan"<geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca>,
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http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/05/before-writs-were-dropped-in-bc-and-ns.html


Monday, 22 May 2017

Before writs were dropped in BC and NS The VERY UNETHICAL "Journalist"
David Akin scores a new job as CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT Global
News???
Methinks that by now mindless David Akin would have figured out that
just like one of my favourite artists Gordy Lightfoot I am still alive
and kicking. However if you scroll to the bottom of this blog you will
see byway of his Tweets Davey Boy continues to ignore my emails even
after I talk to his lawyer and send them both a Hell of an email.  Go
figure why I am not surprised. EH Commissioner Bobby Paulson of the
RCMP?

Do tell does the CBC or the CRTC or CTV or Roger TV or even CPAC or
anyone else recall back in 2015 when I stress tested the ethics of
David Boy Akin and his gal pal Kady Baby O'Malley about voting etc
during and after the election of the 42nd Parliament? I did that years
after I talked to Akin the first in in 2004 when he worked for CTV and
about 2 years or so after Kady had blocked me within Twitter when she
and her snobby buddies such as Jesse Brown, Jian Ghomeshi, Greg Weston
and Evan Solomon used to work for CBC too.

https://globalnews.ca/author/rhonda-brown/

Rhonda Brown
Supervising Producer
902 481 4440

Rhonda is a journalist with more than 24 years experience in the
television industry.

As Supervising Producer, she works with news staff in Halifax and New
Brunswick in the gathering the day’s stories and getting them to air
on Global News at 6 pm.

Born in Newfoundland and raised in Ottawa, she’s lived in Halifax for
more than 22 years.

She’s held a variety of roles with both Global News and CBC over her
career, with a brief foray into public relations.

A perennial candidate is a political candidate who frequently runs for
an elected office and rarely, if ever, wins. The term is the opposite
of an incumbent politician who repeatedly defends their seats
successfully.

Perennial candidates can vary widely in nature. Some are independents
who lack the support of the major political parties in an area or are
members of alternative parties (such as third parties in the United
States). Others may be mainstream candidates who can consistently win
a party's nomination, but because their district is gerrymandered or a
natural safe seat for another party, the candidate likewise never gets
elected (thus these types are often paper candidates). Still others
may typically run in primary elections for a party's nomination and
lose repeatedly. Numerous perennial candidates, although not all, run
with the full knowledge of their inability to win elections and
instead use their candidacy for satire, to advance non-mainstream
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Vitalité CEO stands behind postponed emergency room proposals


Proposals 'were very good, were very sound, were evidence based,' said
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David Amos
Methinks Gilles Lanteigne and I should finally have a long talk ASAP N'esy Pas?


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>>> David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> 02/14/20 19:29 >>>

Methinks it must be because of my recent comments in CBC about your
nonsense about emergency Rooms etc N’esy Pas???

Here is just a few that are recorded within my blog etc


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/02/deputy-premier-must-decide-whether-to.html


Wednesday, 12 February 2020

Deputy premier must decide whether to fall in line on health-care
reforms, Higgs says



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-doctor-sackville-hospital-emergency-room-closure-1.5462252


Doctor shortage forces overnight closure at Sackville ER

More er closures are possible before hours are permanently reduced on March 11

CBC News · Posted: Feb 13, 2020 11:32 AM AT



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David Amos
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Go Figure These are obviously not my Tweets but I did run against the lady


Chisholm Pothier
@chisholmp
·
Feb 10
The plan hasn’t even been announced yet and it’s already being
condemned. We know one thing for sure - we cannot keep delivering
Health the way we have. It isn’t sustainable with an aging population
and needs have changed with demographic change anyway. #nbpoli /1

Quote Tweet
Alaina Lockhart
@AlainaLockhart
· Feb 9
Premier @BlaineHiggs you can’t grow NB by reducing services in rural
areas. NB needs strong rural comms to thrive. The @townofsussex is key
to the region. You need to start thinking about the people impacted in
your quest to improve the bottom line.
https://twitter.com/nsteinbach_rc/


David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Chisholm Pothier no longer speaks for the
government Correct?









David Amos
Need I say I got a few calls after supper last night and the people
who called could tell I was pretty cranky about something? Trust that
what I heard on CBC this morning did not help my mood any..






David Amos
Methinks the real problem is that Higgy and Flemming can't get enough
bilingual folks who want to work within our Health Care System N'esy
Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks everybody knows since the time of
Trudeau The Elder New Brunswick has been a great place to grow up and
get an education but to find work most of our young ones must head
west somewhere on the far side of Quebec. If the truth hurts so be it
N'esy Pas?







David Amos
On CBC this morning I heard our mindless Health Minister direct folks
to the emergency room in another province. Methinks we have not heard
that last about that N'esy Pas??







Jim Cyr
The people of New Brunswick are some of the silliest people in the
world. It’s been hilarious to see almost all of them completely turn
off their brains and freak out over Higgs’ emergency rooms plan. The
people will now vote out the PCs, of course......just as their silly
media masters tell them to do. And so the NB medical/fiscal/poverty
situation will just get worse and worse and worse than it already is..
You can’t make this kind of stuff up, folks!! Amazing to see.
Mind-numbingly predictable and monotonous. It’s like kubuki theater at
this point.. BAD kubuki theater.....lol

David Amos
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks you may be cluing in as to why I call this
a circus If you can't find fun in the madness then you will go crazy
like they claim I am. Yea I'm crazy alright. Some say I'm crazy like a
fox others say I am just another narcissistic fool Hard telling not
knowing for sure but one thing is for certain I am having fun laughing
at all the people who laughed at me N'esy Pas?

However I can be as crazy as i want to be Higgy should ask the shinks
in the loonie bin of the DECH what they did with the wiretap tape of
the mob that I gave them in 2008 that the RCMP refuse to investigate.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Jim Cyr:
Silly? It's just plain "goofy". And once the CONServatives are gone,
having been exchanged for the Liberals, the process will repeat
itself, over and over.
Not one among us able to figure out the only end result is our pocket
remain empty.









Michael Durant
We need to begin serious talks with Doctors Without Boarders

David Amos
Reply to @Michael durant: Try again That one went over like a lead balloon

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Michael durant: borders








Yves Savoie
Get your popcorn ready!!! The circus has begun....

David Amos
Reply to @Yves Savoie: Wanna trade some of your popcorn for peanuts?

Methinks Trump and everybody knows I have been enjoying the circuses
on both sides of the 49th for many years from the peanut galley.
Trump's minions know that just before July 4th, 2002 within a
statement of Claim against an incredible number of Yankee lawyers I
promised that I would run in the next Election in Canada. I have
remained true to my word and have run 7 times thus far. I joined the
clowns in the centre ring no only to to add my two bits worth and but
to witness the high diving acts up close and personal. Trust that
Harper and Higgy et al know that i dearly love the splash just my kids
and I did at Sea World a long long time ago N'esy Pas?

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @David Amos: Kudos to that, and if you were in my riding you
would get my vote, fed or prov.

Lou Bell
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: That would give him 14 votes

Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: " Methinks trumps and everybody knows I have
been enjoy.. .... ...... " !!! You really think trump knows who you
are ?? Seriously ???????????

David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you want his lawyers cell number?

David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Better yet do you want me to give them yours so
you can say hey to your Yankee heroes who locked me up in 2004?

David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Thanks for the vote of confidence









Ben Haroldson
The Doctors are just helping to move things along. No sense waffling
if things are that dire.

David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: So you say







Terry Tibbs
What do you *think*? Coincidence, or not?

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks we all know the wicked game by now N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BTW I was born in the Sackville Hospital in 1952
and it saved my butt 3 years later when I went into a coma for a
month. Methinks for that reason alone I should raise hell to defend
it. Methinks it should be rather obvious that I quite simply don't
care what my cousin Megan Mitton and all her Green Party pals say or
do about it N'esy Pas?

Holly Mossing
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Not coincidence: ERs and Labour and Delivery
units have been randomly closing for years due to staffing issues.
That’s part of the problem, and this move will be part of the
solution. Government being responsible by listening to the health
authorities.










SarahRose Werner
How is the pool of doctors who provide nighttime ER coverage supplied?
Are these doctors who also work day jobs? Does staffing the ER
overnight make doctors less accessible to patients who seek service
during the day?

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Overnight Doctors come from the family
practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
night shift starts. After midnight, the ER is emergencies only, so you
will be triaged by a nurse, then depending on the triage, you may or
may not see a doctor.

This Friday, from how it seems, there will be no doctor at all; I'm
not sure if a tirage nurse will assess people however.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Apparently not, because the ER will be
closed entirely. Which makes sense because triage is a sorting
procedure, not a treatment procedure. The word "triage" comes from the
process of sorting battlefield patients into three levels: those will
recover even without treatment, those who will even if treated and
those for whom treatment will make a difference. If there's no one
available to provide treatment, there's no point doing triage.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: "Overnight Doctors come from the family
practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
night shift starts." - I'm not surprised that doctors who've already
worked during the day are averse to taking overnight shifts as well.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Why would they be "adverse"? If the "stories" told to us are true,
after supper the family practice doctor heads out to the ER for 7pm,
taking paperwork, or reading material, to catch up on.
Right around maybe 10, or 11pm they pull up a bed and have a snooze,
because there "might" be only 5 patients overnight, (this is "the
claim") maybe only one needing his/her attention, so the nurse can
wake him/her up as required. 7am the shift ends, doctor leaves fully
rested,12 hours pay richer.
In some cases, if the doctor lives real close, they go home, coming in
only if needed.

Holly Mossing
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yes, it does, which is part of the
problem. These are great shifts for doctors to pick up (quiet and pay
very well), but don’t help the health of local people overall because
the doc may see 5 urgent patients overnight but not be able to work at
see *25* the next day. That’s a big capacity issue.

David Amos
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Its a pity that nobody in Sackville would
listen to me this week

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: However I will disclose that the Office of the
CEO of one of our Health Care systems called me a few days before
Flemming's big announcement in order to reach an understanding as to
why I am going to file a lawsuitin order to get my Medicare Card and
other things. I have heard nothing but crickets since. Methinks they
think I am bluffing Others know I am not N'esy Pas?











Ian Scott
It would help if the management would outline what it takes to have an
ER open 24/7. I do not think a lot of the public has a clue as to what
it means to open an ER to all comers and the staff then needed to
cover all reasonable issues. You cannot confuse the public and
ambulances etc where to go each night if staffing gets short. It makes
it worse. If you staff with general practice then they must have
extended training in ER issues. Otherwise the next thing is the
complaint that things were not done . Then comes the standard
equipment needed for stroke trauma etc, like CT scanners etc. Even
appendectomy becomes an issue without ultrasound or CT. Its really a
standard of practice and it requires a service level that is very
difficult to reach in small centers. Otherwise you just end up
shipping people out again and delaying diagnostics and the right
treatment, some of which are time related. Would you want surgery for
something that is not needed? Or have blood thinners given when you
actually have a brain bleed etc.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: One thing I've been reading in comments on
stories on this issue is that people mention being "stabilized" in a
smaller centre before being shipped out to a larger one. Not being a
medical professional, I don't know what resources and skills are
required to "stabilize" patients. Is this something that could be
achieved in some other way, for example, by expanded and improved
paramedic service?

Ian Scott
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: That is the care in bigger centers, well
trained paramedics to stabilize at site and transport. Still most
stroke issues need CT before treatment. Heart issues may be
"stabilized" with drugs etc but transfer really is key for assessment
. Trauma , (major) , needs a trauma center. I am not sure how many
paramedics can intubate in the field at this point in NB but even an
acute asthma or allergic issue might need it. Its what has been
suggested. The numbers are small in many of these towns.Even having
those staff may prove difficult down the road. Helicopter Air
ambulance is another issue, complex and expensive but out there.
Freddy is a trauma center for a certain level , but even it only has a
snowfield for landing.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Okay, so if someone has a heart attack, acute
allergic attack, stroke, etc. in Sussex in the middle of the night and
that person needs some sort of immediate treatment to tide them over
until they get to the Saint John Regional, how is that provided? To
me, that's the crux of the issue here. I agree that 24/7 ER service in
all locations is not the answer. What are other possible answers?

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: In that situation, the patient will be
sent on to Saint John/Moncton (not sure which hospital in regards to
Sussex) regardless if they are stable or not.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Are there increased to the patient if
they're sent on without stabilization? What are those? What will be
done to ameliorate those risks?

Holly Mossing
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: There is a great study on this that showed
that cardiac patients who were “stabilized” at a small center then
transferred had worse outcomes and a higher death rate than patients
who bypassed their local ER and were brought directly to where they
could receive specialized care, for example. (
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28615177/ ). Advanced care
paramedics need to be normalized in New Brunswick and supported to
make health care as safe as possible. I’ve never voted Conservative
but in this case Higgs’ government is doing absolutely the responsible
thing. We need to make sure they follow through with increased daytime
services.

David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you must have read some of my
comments N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Hmmmm










Donald Smith
There has to be a reason, or reasons why NB Cannot attract them ???????

Mack Leigh
Reply to @Donald Smith: There definitely is however no one is allowed
to talk about the " Elephant " in the room.

Ian Scott
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Major centers are not really having that issue
except for OR constraints for time for some specialists and no beds
because of acute care bed blockers. Bathurst has excellent docs as
does Edmonston and they are better at language issues than the south.
Freddy and SJ and the Moncton centers also attract excellent staff.
Its in between that is the issue , and medicine has changed , as have
expectations and the standard of care. An ER is just that , all
comers, not a clinic. One has to meet rigid standards of care. And
those are hard to meet in 4k population or less towns and villages.
Aging issues are one of the biggest issues and its being met poorly.
Billing numbers are a thing of the past so not in the question. There
could certainly be some concern I suppose of young docs worried about
potential language issues but low.

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @Ian Scott: What people seem to forget is that Sackville,
while a population of 5000 including Mt. Allison students, also
services Dorchester, Memramcook, Port Elgin, Murry Corner as well as
we get patients from the Cape like Cocagne, Cap Pele, Shediac. We've
had people from Moncton and surrounding area come to our hospital in
increasing numbers over the past two years, even as far as Anagance,
AND we get people from NS as well like River Hebert and Amherst. It
isn't just NB, but NS we serve too.

So no, we don't have a 4K or less patient possibility, we have much
more than that.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Then maybe NS would like to contribute
some money to pay for overnight service at the ER.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Don't you believe for a moment they don't.
Show an out of province medicare card at a NB hospital and the eyes
light up like a one armed bandit hitting a jackpot.

David Amos
Reply to @Donald Smith: Everybody knows the reasons

David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: I do








Brian Robertson
This is just the logical next step in the deterioration of healthcare
under the thumb of a government administered monopoly.
When you have no money and no Doctors and costs are still increasing
because all your workers are members of public service unions that can
hold the public hostage; what else can happen?
The viability of single payer healthcare is based on the metering of
services in order to control costs.
Public needs and individual abilities to pay simply do not factor into
the equation.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Brian Robertson:
Hold the phone, Just STOP, and *think* for a moment, you have been
misdirected just like you are supposed to be.
EVERY other province, or territory, has "evil" union belonging health
professionals, this is not a NB only "thing".
We are supposed to be short of 100, maybe 200, health professionals
needed per capita (a different number pops out whenever those in
charge are asked).
We know the pay and benefits in NB are "short" hence the shortage of
health professionals.
Yet the cost of healthcare is higher (per capita) than every other
province, or territory.
So, either EVERYONE in NB is constantly sick, or the extra cost is
somewhere else other than with the health professionals.
I respectfully *think* you should be looking elsewhere.

Brian Robertson
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
All Provincial healthcare systems are following the same pattern
decline; except possibly Quebec who enjoys a lucrative infusion of
Federal transfer payments annually. New Brunswick just seems to be
ahead of the curve in terms of declining services and wait times.
There is more than enough blame to go around for this spiral trip
around the drain. Yes, and that includes your healthcare
professionals.

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks he knows you are correct Quebec is a
UNILINGUAL Province Hence its costs are less N'esy Pas?





John Pokiok
There you have it no Doctor wants to live in rural setting it's a hard
core fact.

Ian Scott
Reply to @John Pokiok: Thats not really true. Being an ER doc is a
different fish from a GP office setting. It requires an extension of
training.If you open an ER then you have every issue from Intubation
to trauma to poisoning, heart attack stroke, delivery etc. ER trained
docs are a separate entity . You are asking a GP to be everything and
have little backup and extended hours and then have a practice in the
community. It takes a serious block of staff to do this around the
clock. And to have surgical backups for obstetrics etc.And to then
live in communities with 4K people is not easy.

David Amos
Reply to @John Pokiok: Many do when they retire

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @John Pokiok: And yet we just had *2* doctors from US
background move to Sackville to practice. It's not a matter of no
doctors wanting to move to rural areas.

David Amos
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Maybe they are willing to cover the midnight shift
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 06:44:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false imprisonment
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

David,

I wish you well.

Sharon

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 5:27 PM David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
 
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 18:27:31 -0300
Subject: Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false imprisonment
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 13:07:15 -0300
Subject: Re: Enjoy the blog and say to Meggy Mitton for me will ya?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Hey I've been thinking about you lol.... what have you been up to?
I'm sure you are staying strong and healthy right...

Cheers
Heather

On Sun., Aug. 30, 2020, 12:24 p.m. David Amos, <
david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
>


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/abortion-clinic-554-closing-fredericton-1.5316000

Abortion clinic in Fredericton for sale, set to close without medicare funding
Medical director hopes New Brunswick government will agree to cover
private procedures
CBC News · Posted: Oct 10, 2019 11:11 AM AT


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Heck David I can't explain the bs that goes on in this backwoods
province. I had to literally jump through hoops to move my drivers
licence here, never mind I had one before a 5 year absence. Gaining a
health card, for me, wasn't as bad as the drivers licence, it was
stupid, but not as stupid as the woman at no service NB telling me she
could see my old licence on the computer, but couldn't give me a new
one, even though I own property, pay property tax, and have vehicles
registered here.


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From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"<fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:10:06 +0000
Subject: RE: YO Mr Higgs you and the Health Care CEOs should not deny
that I just caught Krissy Baby Austin being a LIAR on Rogers TV and
they cut me off TRUE or FALSE???
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
comments.

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:09:55 -0400
Subject: YO Mr Higgs you and the Health Care CEOs should not deny that
I just caught Krissy Baby Austin being a LIAR on Rogers TV and they
cut me off TRUE or FALSE???
To: "blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, dale.morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
"Mark.Blakely"<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Roger.Brown"
<Roger.Brown@fredericton.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
<martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki"
<Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "barbara.massey"
<barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "barb.whitenect"
<barb.whitenect@gnb.ca>
Cc: "Robert. Jones"<Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, David Amos
<motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "Holland, Mike (LEG)"
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)"<Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 00:51:52 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I just caught Krissy Baby being a LIAR on
Rogers TV and they cut me off
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

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From: "Cameron, Melanie Dawn (HorizonNB)"<MelanieDawn.Cameron@horizonnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:02:48 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I just caught Krissy Baby being a LIAR on
Rogers TV and they cut me off
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

I will be away from the office returning on Monday, February 24th

Melanie Cameron
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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 20:51:48 -0400
Subject: I just caught Krissy Baby being a LIAR on Rogers TV and they cut me off
To: "kris.austin"<kris.austin@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Kevin.Vickers"<Kevin.Vickers@gnb.ca>,
"robert.mckee"<robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin"
<robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, "Ross.Wetmore"<Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Nathalie Sturgeon
<sturgeon.nathalie@brunswicknews.com>, Newsroom
<Newsroom@globeandmail.com>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA1KzEXJMR8

Kris Austin, People's Alliance - Voice of the Province - February 20, 2020
19 watching now

Rogers tv
32.1K subscribers


David Amos​ Too too Funny

David Amos​Ask Chucky why i was barred from the leg 2 years before he was

David Amos​ Ask Austin what he thought of the email everyone including
Chucky got on Feb 14th

David Amos​ Asdk Austin what he thinks of my lawsuit against the Crown

David Amos​ Chucky did attend one of the hearings because he and
Vickers are mentioned in the lawsuit

David Amos ​I take false arrest very personally



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 15:59:18 -0400
Subject: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
To: Rhonda.Brown@globalnews.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Gerald.Butts"
<Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "geoff.regan"<geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca>,
"Katie.Telford"<Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Ian.Shugart"
<Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca>, "ian.fahie"<ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"andrew.scheer"<andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, david.akin@globalnews.ca

Need I say that I am tired of being called a perennial candidate on TV?


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/05/before-writs-were-dropped-in-bc-and-ns.html


Monday, 22 May 2017

Before writs were dropped in BC and NS The VERY UNETHICAL "Journalist"
David Akin scores a new job as CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT Global
News???
Methinks that by now mindless David Akin would have figured out that
just like one of my favourite artists Gordy Lightfoot I am still alive
and kicking. However if you scroll to the bottom of this blog you will
see byway of his Tweets Davey Boy continues to ignore my emails even
after I talk to his lawyer and send them both a Hell of an email.  Go
figure why I am not surprised. EH Commissioner Bobby Paulson of the
RCMP?

Do tell does the CBC or the CRTC or CTV or Roger TV or even CPAC or
anyone else recall back in 2015 when I stress tested the ethics of
David Boy Akin and his gal pal Kady Baby O'Malley about voting etc
during and after the election of the 42nd Parliament? I did that years
after I talked to Akin the first in in 2004 when he worked for CTV and
about 2 years or so after Kady had blocked me within Twitter when she
and her snobby buddies such as Jesse Brown, Jian Ghomeshi, Greg Weston
and Evan Solomon used to work for CBC too.

https://globalnews.ca/author/rhonda-brown/

Rhonda Brown
Supervising Producer
902 481 4440

Rhonda is a journalist with more than 24 years experience in the
television industry.

As Supervising Producer, she works with news staff in Halifax and New
Brunswick in the gathering the day’s stories and getting them to air
on Global News at 6 pm.

Born in Newfoundland and raised in Ottawa, she’s lived in Halifax for
more than 22 years.

She’s held a variety of roles with both Global News and CBC over her
career, with a brief foray into public relations.

A perennial candidate is a political candidate who frequently runs for
an elected office and rarely, if ever, wins. The term is the opposite
of an incumbent politician who repeatedly defends their seats
successfully.

Perennial candidates can vary widely in nature. Some are independents
who lack the support of the major political parties in an area or are
members of alternative parties (such as third parties in the United
States). Others may be mainstream candidates who can consistently win
a party's nomination, but because their district is gerrymandered or a
natural safe seat for another party, the candidate likewise never gets
elected (thus these types are often paper candidates). Still others
may typically run in primary elections for a party's nomination and
lose repeatedly. Numerous perennial candidates, although not all, run
with the full knowledge of their inability to win elections and
instead use their candidacy for satire, to advance non-mainstream
political platforms, or to take advantage of benefits afforded
political candidates (such as campaign financing, name recognition,
and television advertising benefits).





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Vitalité CEO stands behind postponed emergency room proposals


Proposals 'were very good, were very sound, were evidence based,' said
Gilles Lanteigne

Jordan Gill · CBC News · Posted: Feb 18, 2020 10:33 AM AT

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David Amos
Methinks Gilles Lanteigne and I should finally have a long talk ASAP N'esy Pas?



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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 15:33:02 -0400
Subject: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
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"bruce.northrup"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, "Macfarlane, Bruce (DH/MS)"
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imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 20:29:13 -0400
Subject: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
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"Mark.Blakely"<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Roger.Brown"
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Methinks it must be because of my recent comments in CBC about your
nonsense about emergency Rooms etc N’esy Pas???

Here is just a few that are recorded within my blog etc


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/02/deputy-premier-must-decide-whether-to.html


Wednesday, 12 February 2020

Deputy premier must decide whether to fall in line on health-care
reforms, Higgs says



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-doctor-sackville-hospital-emergency-room-closure-1.5462252


Doctor shortage forces overnight closure at Sackville ER

More er closures are possible before hours are permanently reduced on March 11

CBC News · Posted: Feb 13, 2020 11:32 AM AT



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Commenting is now closed for this story.


David Amos
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Go Figure These are obviously not my Tweets but I did run against the lady


Chisholm Pothier
@chisholmp
·
Feb 10
The plan hasn’t even been announced yet and it’s already being
condemned. We know one thing for sure - we cannot keep delivering
Health the way we have. It isn’t sustainable with an aging population
and needs have changed with demographic change anyway. #nbpoli /1

Quote Tweet
Alaina Lockhart
@AlainaLockhart
· Feb 9
Premier @BlaineHiggs you can’t grow NB by reducing services in rural
areas. NB needs strong rural comms to thrive. The @townofsussex is key
to the region. You need to start thinking about the people impacted in
your quest to improve the bottom line.
https://twitter.com/nsteinbach_rc/


David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Chisholm Pothier no longer speaks for the
government Correct?









David Amos
Need I say I got a few calls after supper last night and the people
who called could tell I was pretty cranky about something? Trust that
what I heard on CBC this morning did not help my mood any..






David Amos
Methinks the real problem is that Higgy and Flemming can't get enough
bilingual folks who want to work within our Health Care System N'esy
Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks everybody knows since the time of
Trudeau The Elder New Brunswick has been a great place to grow up and
get an education but to find work most of our young ones must head
west somewhere on the far side of Quebec. If the truth hurts so be it
N'esy Pas?







David Amos
On CBC this morning I heard our mindless Health Minister direct folks
to the emergency room in another province. Methinks we have not heard
that last about that N'esy Pas??







Jim Cyr
The people of New Brunswick are some of the silliest people in the
world. It’s been hilarious to see almost all of them completely turn
off their brains and freak out over Higgs’ emergency rooms plan. The
people will now vote out the PCs, of course......just as their silly
media masters tell them to do. And so the NB medical/fiscal/poverty
situation will just get worse and worse and worse than it already is..
You can’t make this kind of stuff up, folks!! Amazing to see.
Mind-numbingly predictable and monotonous. It’s like kubuki theater at
this point.. BAD kubuki theater.....lol

David Amos
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks you may be cluing in as to why I call this
a circus If you can't find fun in the madness then you will go crazy
like they claim I am. Yea I'm crazy alright. Some say I'm crazy like a
fox others say I am just another narcissistic fool Hard telling not
knowing for sure but one thing is for certain I am having fun laughing
at all the people who laughed at me N'esy Pas?

However I can be as crazy as i want to be Higgy should ask the shinks
in the loonie bin of the DECH what they did with the wiretap tape of
the mob that I gave them in 2008 that the RCMP refuse to investigate.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Jim Cyr:
Silly? It's just plain "goofy". And once the CONServatives are gone,
having been exchanged for the Liberals, the process will repeat
itself, over and over.
Not one among us able to figure out the only end result is our pocket
remain empty.









Michael Durant
We need to begin serious talks with Doctors Without Boarders

David Amos
Reply to @Michael durant: Try again That one went over like a lead balloon

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Michael durant: borders








Yves Savoie
Get your popcorn ready!!! The circus has begun....

David Amos
Reply to @Yves Savoie: Wanna trade some of your popcorn for peanuts?

Methinks Trump and everybody knows I have been enjoying the circuses
on both sides of the 49th for many years from the peanut galley.
Trump's minions know that just before July 4th, 2002 within a
statement of Claim against an incredible number of Yankee lawyers I
promised that I would run in the next Election in Canada. I have
remained true to my word and have run 7 times thus far. I joined the
clowns in the centre ring no only to to add my two bits worth and but
to witness the high diving acts up close and personal. Trust that
Harper and Higgy et al know that i dearly love the splash just my kids
and I did at Sea World a long long time ago N'esy Pas?

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @David Amos: Kudos to that, and if you were in my riding you
would get my vote, fed or prov.

Lou Bell
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: That would give him 14 votes

Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: " Methinks trumps and everybody knows I have
been enjoy.. .... ...... " !!! You really think trump knows who you
are ?? Seriously ???????????

David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you want his lawyers cell number?

David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Better yet do you want me to give them yours so
you can say hey to your Yankee heroes who locked me up in 2004?

David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Thanks for the vote of confidence









Ben Haroldson
The Doctors are just helping to move things along. No sense waffling
if things are that dire.

David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: So you say







Terry Tibbs
What do you *think*? Coincidence, or not?

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks we all know the wicked game by now N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BTW I was born in the Sackville Hospital in 1952
and it saved my butt 3 years later when I went into a coma for a
month. Methinks for that reason alone I should raise hell to defend
it. Methinks it should be rather obvious that I quite simply don't
care what my cousin Megan Mitton and all her Green Party pals say or
do about it N'esy Pas?

Holly Mossing
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Not coincidence: ERs and Labour and Delivery
units have been randomly closing for years due to staffing issues.
That’s part of the problem, and this move will be part of the
solution. Government being responsible by listening to the health
authorities.










SarahRose Werner
How is the pool of doctors who provide nighttime ER coverage supplied?
Are these doctors who also work day jobs? Does staffing the ER
overnight make doctors less accessible to patients who seek service
during the day?

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Overnight Doctors come from the family
practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
night shift starts. After midnight, the ER is emergencies only, so you
will be triaged by a nurse, then depending on the triage, you may or
may not see a doctor.

This Friday, from how it seems, there will be no doctor at all; I'm
not sure if a tirage nurse will assess people however.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Apparently not, because the ER will be
closed entirely. Which makes sense because triage is a sorting
procedure, not a treatment procedure. The word "triage" comes from the
process of sorting battlefield patients into three levels: those will
recover even without treatment, those who will even if treated and
those for whom treatment will make a difference. If there's no one
available to provide treatment, there's no point doing triage.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: "Overnight Doctors come from the family
practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
night shift starts." - I'm not surprised that doctors who've already
worked during the day are averse to taking overnight shifts as well.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Why would they be "adverse"? If the "stories" told to us are true,
after supper the family practice doctor heads out to the ER for 7pm,
taking paperwork, or reading material, to catch up on.
Right around maybe 10, or 11pm they pull up a bed and have a snooze,
because there "might" be only 5 patients overnight, (this is "the
claim") maybe only one needing his/her attention, so the nurse can
wake him/her up as required. 7am the shift ends, doctor leaves fully
rested,12 hours pay richer.
In some cases, if the doctor lives real close, they go home, coming in
only if needed.

Holly Mossing
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yes, it does, which is part of the
problem. These are great shifts for doctors to pick up (quiet and pay
very well), but don’t help the health of local people overall because
the doc may see 5 urgent patients overnight but not be able to work at
see *25* the next day. That’s a big capacity issue.

David Amos
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Its a pity that nobody in Sackville would
listen to me this week

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: However I will disclose that the Office of the
CEO of one of our Health Care systems called me a few days before
Flemming's big announcement in order to reach an understanding as to
why I am going to file a lawsuitin order to get my Medicare Card and
other things. I have heard nothing but crickets since. Methinks they
think I am bluffing Others know I am not N'esy Pas?











Ian Scott
It would help if the management would outline what it takes to have an
ER open 24/7. I do not think a lot of the public has a clue as to what
it means to open an ER to all comers and the staff then needed to
cover all reasonable issues. You cannot confuse the public and
ambulances etc where to go each night if staffing gets short. It makes
it worse. If you staff with general practice then they must have
extended training in ER issues. Otherwise the next thing is the
complaint that things were not done . Then comes the standard
equipment needed for stroke trauma etc, like CT scanners etc. Even
appendectomy becomes an issue without ultrasound or CT. Its really a
standard of practice and it requires a service level that is very
difficult to reach in small centers. Otherwise you just end up
shipping people out again and delaying diagnostics and the right
treatment, some of which are time related. Would you want surgery for
something that is not needed? Or have blood thinners given when you
actually have a brain bleed etc.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: One thing I've been reading in comments on
stories on this issue is that people mention being "stabilized" in a
smaller centre before being shipped out to a larger one. Not being a
medical professional, I don't know what resources and skills are
required to "stabilize" patients. Is this something that could be
achieved in some other way, for example, by expanded and improved
paramedic service?

Ian Scott
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: That is the care in bigger centers, well
trained paramedics to stabilize at site and transport. Still most
stroke issues need CT before treatment. Heart issues may be
"stabilized" with drugs etc but transfer really is key for assessment
. Trauma , (major) , needs a trauma center. I am not sure how many
paramedics can intubate in the field at this point in NB but even an
acute asthma or allergic issue might need it. Its what has been
suggested. The numbers are small in many of these towns.Even having
those staff may prove difficult down the road. Helicopter Air
ambulance is another issue, complex and expensive but out there.
Freddy is a trauma center for a certain level , but even it only has a
snowfield for landing.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Okay, so if someone has a heart attack, acute
allergic attack, stroke, etc. in Sussex in the middle of the night and
that person needs some sort of immediate treatment to tide them over
until they get to the Saint John Regional, how is that provided? To
me, that's the crux of the issue here. I agree that 24/7 ER service in
all locations is not the answer. What are other possible answers?

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: In that situation, the patient will be
sent on to Saint John/Moncton (not sure which hospital in regards to
Sussex) regardless if they are stable or not.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Are there increased to the patient if
they're sent on without stabilization? What are those? What will be
done to ameliorate those risks?

Holly Mossing
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: There is a great study on this that showed
that cardiac patients who were “stabilized” at a small center then
transferred had worse outcomes and a higher death rate than patients
who bypassed their local ER and were brought directly to where they
could receive specialized care, for example. (
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28615177/ ). Advanced care
paramedics need to be normalized in New Brunswick and supported to
make health care as safe as possible. I’ve never voted Conservative
but in this case Higgs’ government is doing absolutely the responsible
thing. We need to make sure they follow through with increased daytime
services.

David Amos
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Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you must have read some of my
comments N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Hmmmm










Donald Smith
There has to be a reason, or reasons why NB Cannot attract them ???????

Mack Leigh
Reply to @Donald Smith: There definitely is however no one is allowed
to talk about the " Elephant " in the room.

Ian Scott
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Major centers are not really having that issue
except for OR constraints for time for some specialists and no beds
because of acute care bed blockers. Bathurst has excellent docs as
does Edmonston and they are better at language issues than the south.
Freddy and SJ and the Moncton centers also attract excellent staff.
Its in between that is the issue , and medicine has changed , as have
expectations and the standard of care. An ER is just that , all
comers, not a clinic. One has to meet rigid standards of care. And
those are hard to meet in 4k population or less towns and villages.
Aging issues are one of the biggest issues and its being met poorly.
Billing numbers are a thing of the past so not in the question. There
could certainly be some concern I suppose of young docs worried about
potential language issues but low.

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @Ian Scott: What people seem to forget is that Sackville,
while a population of 5000 including Mt. Allison students, also
services Dorchester, Memramcook, Port Elgin, Murry Corner as well as
we get patients from the Cape like Cocagne, Cap Pele, Shediac. We've
had people from Moncton and surrounding area come to our hospital in
increasing numbers over the past two years, even as far as Anagance,
AND we get people from NS as well like River Hebert and Amherst. It
isn't just NB, but NS we serve too.

So no, we don't have a 4K or less patient possibility, we have much
more than that.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Then maybe NS would like to contribute
some money to pay for overnight service at the ER.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Don't you believe for a moment they don't.
Show an out of province medicare card at a NB hospital and the eyes
light up like a one armed bandit hitting a jackpot.

David Amos
Reply to @Donald Smith: Everybody knows the reasons

David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: I do








Brian Robertson
This is just the logical next step in the deterioration of healthcare
under the thumb of a government administered monopoly.
When you have no money and no Doctors and costs are still increasing
because all your workers are members of public service unions that can
hold the public hostage; what else can happen?
The viability of single payer healthcare is based on the metering of
services in order to control costs.
Public needs and individual abilities to pay simply do not factor into
the equation.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Brian Robertson:
Hold the phone, Just STOP, and *think* for a moment, you have been
misdirected just like you are supposed to be.
EVERY other province, or territory, has "evil" union belonging health
professionals, this is not a NB only "thing".
We are supposed to be short of 100, maybe 200, health professionals
needed per capita (a different number pops out whenever those in
charge are asked).
We know the pay and benefits in NB are "short" hence the shortage of
health professionals.
Yet the cost of healthcare is higher (per capita) than every other
province, or territory.
So, either EVERYONE in NB is constantly sick, or the extra cost is
somewhere else other than with the health professionals.
I respectfully *think* you should be looking elsewhere.

Brian Robertson
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
All Provincial healthcare systems are following the same pattern
decline; except possibly Quebec who enjoys a lucrative infusion of
Federal transfer payments annually. New Brunswick just seems to be
ahead of the curve in terms of declining services and wait times.
There is more than enough blame to go around for this spiral trip
around the drain. Yes, and that includes your healthcare
professionals.

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks he knows you are correct Quebec is a
UNILINGUAL Province Hence its costs are less N'esy Pas?





John Pokiok
There you have it no Doctor wants to live in rural setting it's a hard
core fact.

Ian Scott
Reply to @John Pokiok: Thats not really true. Being an ER doc is a
different fish from a GP office setting. It requires an extension of
training.If you open an ER then you have every issue from Intubation
to trauma to poisoning, heart attack stroke, delivery etc. ER trained
docs are a separate entity . You are asking a GP to be everything and
have little backup and extended hours and then have a practice in the
community. It takes a serious block of staff to do this around the
clock. And to have surgical backups for obstetrics etc.And to then
live in communities with 4K people is not easy.

David Amos
Reply to @John Pokiok: Many do when they retire

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @John Pokiok: And yet we just had *2* doctors from US
background move to Sackville to practice. It's not a matter of no
doctors wanting to move to rural areas.

David Amos
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Maybe they are willing to cover the midnight shift


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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Mr. Amos,
> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
> of Nova Scotia.  Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS.  Please note that we will
> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
>
> Department of Justice
>
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Good Day Sir
>>
>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>
>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>
>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>> suggested that you study closely.
>>
>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>
>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>
>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>
>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>
>> April 3rd, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>
>>
>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>
>>
>> The only hearing thus far
>>
>> May 24th, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>
>>
>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>
>> Date: 20151223
>>
>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>
>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>
>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>>
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>
>> Plaintiff
>>
>> and
>>
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>
>> Defendant
>>
>> ORDER
>>
>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>> December 14, 2015)
>>
>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>> in its entirety.
>>
>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
>> he stated:
>>
>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>
>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>> Police.
>>
>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>
>>
>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
>> is no order as to costs.
>>
>> “B. Richard Bell”
>> Judge
>>
>>
>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>
>>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>
>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>> most
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>> dudes are way past too late
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Merci ,
>>
>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>>
>>
>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>
>> January 13, 2015
>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>
>> December 8, 2014
>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>
>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>
>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>
>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>> campaign of 2006.
>>
>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>
>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>
>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>
>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>
>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>
>> Subject:
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>
>> January 30, 2007
>>
>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>
>> Mr. David Amos
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>
>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>
>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>> Minister of Health
>>
>> CM/cb
>>
>>
>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>
>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>
>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>
>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>
>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>
>>  Sincerely,
>>
>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>> Traffic Services NCO
>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>> fax: 506-444-5224
>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>
>
>
> On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
>> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>>
>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz
>> ilian.html
>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>>
>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>>
>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>> cards?
>>>
>>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly200
>>> 6
>>>
>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>>
>>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>>
>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>> United States Senate
>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>
>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>> raised in the attached letter.
>>>
>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>> tapes.
>>>
>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>
>>> Very truly yours,
>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>
>>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html
>
>
> Sunday, 19 November 2017
> Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
> It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
> The Supreme Court
>
> https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do
>
>
> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>
> Amos v. Canada
> Court (s) Database
>
> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
> Date
>
> 2017-10-30
> Neutral citation
>
> 2017 FCA 213
> File numbers
>
> A-48-16
> Date: 20171030
>
> Docket: A-48-16
> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
> CORAM:
>
> WEBB J.A.
> NEAR J.A.
> GLEASON J.A.
>
>
> BETWEEN:
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> Respondent on the cross-appeal
> (and formally Appellant)
> and
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> Appellant on the cross-appeal
> (and formerly Respondent)
> Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
> Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
>
> THE COURT
>
>
>
> Date: 20171030
>
> Docket: A-48-16
> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
> CORAM:
>
> WEBB J.A.
> NEAR J.A.
> GLEASON J.A.
>
>
> BETWEEN:
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> Respondent on the cross-appeal
> (and formally Appellant)
> and
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> Appellant on the cross-appeal
> (and formerly Respondent)
> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
>
> I.                    Introduction
>
> [1]               On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
> filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
> against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
> in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
> Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
> properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
> that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
> Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
> (Claim at para. 96).
>
> [2]               On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
> motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
> Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
> amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
> disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
> and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
> Prothontary’s Order).
>
>
> [3]               On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
> Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
> Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
> Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
> for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
> 2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
>
>
> [4]               Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
> Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
> Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
> As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
> cross-appeal.
>
>
> II.                 Preliminary Matter
>
> [5]               Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
> relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
> 6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
> the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
> This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
> had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
> Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
> several judges but did not name those judges.
>
> [6]               Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
> identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
> had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
> with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
> Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
> the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
> subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
> c. F-7:
>
>
> 5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
> office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
> Appeal.
> […]
>
> 5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
> d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
> les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
> […]
> 5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
> that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.
>
> 5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
> Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
> juges de la Cour fédérale.
>
>
> [7]               However, these subsections only provide that the
> judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
> versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
> Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
> section.
> [8]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide that:
> 3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
> — Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
> Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
> continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
> for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
> a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>
> 3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
> fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
> français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
> à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
> Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
> continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
> matière civile et pénale.
> 4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
> — Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
> English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
> additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
> the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
> court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>
> 4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
> première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
> Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
> maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
> d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
> canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
> compétence en matière civile et pénale.
>
>
> [9]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
> two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
> (section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
> Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
> need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
> Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
> to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
> file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
> decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
> that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
> appeal book.
>
>
> [10]           Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
> March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
> Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
> conflict in any matter related to him.
>
>
> [11]           On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
> before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
> conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
> Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
> Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
> Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
> Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
> cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
> Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
> will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
> before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
> relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.
>
>
> [12]           During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
> the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
> submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
> conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
> afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
> that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
> view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
> documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
> documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
> judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
> copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
> such judge had a conflict.
>
>
> [13]           The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
> that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
> 2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
> that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
> had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
> therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
> of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
> personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
> Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
> was a member of such firm.
>
>
> [14]           During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
> appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
> focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
> Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
> the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
> particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
> lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
> after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
> Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
>
>
> [15]           The documents that he submitted in relation to the
> alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
> Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
> Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
> practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
> Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
> who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
> affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
> that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
> letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
> Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
> Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
> “John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
> Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
> possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
> [16]           Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
> was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
> Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
> 259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
> judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
> apprehension of bias:
> 60        In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
> criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
> Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
> Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
> reasonable apprehension of bias:
> … the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
> reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
> question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
> of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
> viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
> the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
> than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
> unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
>
> [17]           The issue to be determined is whether an informed
> person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
> thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
> give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
> previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
> administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
> rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
> Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
> also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
> (4th) 193).
>
> [18]           The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
> Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
> Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
> particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
> case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
> involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
> Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
> judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
> lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
> determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
> rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
> 27        Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
> finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
> which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
> as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
>
>
> 28        The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
> asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
> the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
> taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
> defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
> judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
> Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
> Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
> there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
> and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
>
>
> 29        It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
> inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
> different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
> judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
> of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
> conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
> involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
> in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
> for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
> interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
> statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
> information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
> opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
> His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
> had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
> unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.
>
>
> 30        That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
> of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
> disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
> two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
> recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
> that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
> that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
> time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
>             To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
> the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
> involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
> the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
> circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
> or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
> 31        There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
> Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
> trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
> been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
> his former firm for a considerable period of time.
>
>
> 32        In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
> realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
> and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
> of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
> in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
> In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
> trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
> his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
> decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
> either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
> client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
> off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
> client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
> earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
> events from over a decade ago.
> (emphasis added)
>
> [19]           Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
> involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
> Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
> clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
> alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
> Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
> Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
> Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
> had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
> was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
> involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
> with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
> sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
> Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
> also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
> Webb hearing this appeal.
>
> [20]           Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
> (2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
> reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
> the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
> with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
>
> [21]           In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
> F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
> reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
> lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
> was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
> Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
> Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.
>
> [22]           Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
> stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
> of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
> He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
> entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
> and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
> to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
> police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
> enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
> conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
>
> [23]           As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
> apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
> to recuse himself.
>
> [24]           Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
> experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
> the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
> confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
> Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
>
> [25]           Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
> Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
> that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
> a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
> both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
> Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
> begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
> you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
> was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
> Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
> for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
> not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
>
>
> III.               Issue
>
> [26]           The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
> Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
> in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
> Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
> legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
>
> IV.              Analysis
>
> A.                 Standard of Review
>
> [27]           Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
> Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
> be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
> made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
> Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
> 402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
> this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
> articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
> [Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
> Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
> prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
> case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
> the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
> error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
> law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
> a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
> if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
> determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
> (Hospira at paras. 82-83).
>
> [28]           In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
> assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
> must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
> erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
> interfere.
>
>
> B.                 Did the Judge err in interfering with the
> Prothonotary’s Order?
>
> [29]           The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
> paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
> Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
>
> 17.       Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
> addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
> of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
> in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
> the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
> the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
> or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
> does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
> (…)
>
>
> 21.       The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
> provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
> the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
> Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
> determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
> A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
> only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
> best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
> suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
> [footnotes omitted].
>
>
> [30]           The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
> on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
> that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
> liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
> who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
> included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
> the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
> paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
> identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
> Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
> para. 27).
>
>
> [31]           The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
> cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
> identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
> 2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
>
>
> [13]      As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
> 69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
> determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
> element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
>
> a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
> conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
>
> b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
> conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and
>
> c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
> officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
> public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
> Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
> (Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
>
> [32]           The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
> material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
> public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
> Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
> “political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
>
> [33]           This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
> in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
> D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
>
> …When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
> assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
> negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
> “The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
> upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
> conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
> of process…
>
> To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
> requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
> out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
> officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
> office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
> mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
> allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
> a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
> (at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
>
> [34]           Applying the Housen standard of review to the
> Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
> absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
>
> [35]           The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
> disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
> basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
> ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
> the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
> engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
> conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
> faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
> the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
> these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
> non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
> Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
> the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
> barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
> supporting a cause of action.
>
> [36]           In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
> allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
> reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
> Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
> Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
> find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
> The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
> amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
>
> V.                 Conclusion
> [37]           For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
> cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
> dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
> November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
> without leave to amend.
> "Wyman W. Webb"
> J.A.
> "David G. Near"
> J.A.
> "Mary J.L. Gleason"
> J.A.
>
>
>
> FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
> NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
>
> A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
> JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
> DOCKET:
>
> A-48-16
>
>
>
> STYLE OF CAUSE:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
>
>
> PLACE OF HEARING:
>
> Fredericton,
> New Brunswick
>
> DATE OF HEARING:
>
> May 24, 2017
>
> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
>
> WEBB J.A.
> NEAR J.A.
> GLEASON J.A.
>
> DATED:
>
> October 30, 2017
>
> APPEARANCES:
> David Raymond Amos
>
>
> For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
> (on his own behalf)
>
> Jan Jensen
>
>
> For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>
> SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
> Nathalie G. Drouin
> Deputy Attorney General of Canada
>
> For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 16:13:15 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Hey Higgy Methinks there are 2 new Twists of
the Truth for CBC to review in their domain then compare to my records
stored within my blog EH Robert Jones?
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 04:37:00 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks if Don Bowser were truly ethical
then he and I would have had a long talk many moons ago yet his CBC
buddies are still promoting him bigtime to this very day while trying
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Tel./Tel. : (506) 453-2144
Email/Courriel:
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Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others 
Methinks if Don Bowser were truly ethical then he and I would have had a long talk many moons ago yet his CBC buddies are still promoting him bigtime to this very day while trying to play dumb N"esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/historic-bank-becomes-new-workspace-1.5763867

 

A new workspace with an antique twist opens in Petitcodiac

Rented co-working space available for those working remotely

 

Kate Letterick· CBC News· Posted: Oct 16, 2020 8:00 AM AT

 


Varvara Pakhomenko and Don Bowser came up with the idea to bring the old bank back to it's former glory and offer it as workspace for remote workers. (Kate Letterick/CBC News)

Inside a former bank built in 1910, in the heart of the village of Petitcodiac, Teri McMackin is hard at work.

She's a virtual assistant, doing everything from building websites to podcast editing for clients all around the world.  She's been working remotely for years. 

Now she has a new work space, close to home, at the Petitcodiac Community Hub—The Vault.

"I was so excited to hear that it was opening 'cause I used to travel once a week before COVID to go to Moncton to sit in a cafe and work." she said.

"So having a space where I can sit and work and have a little bit of light distraction, I love it."

Teri McMackin says having a workspace in her village means she doesn't have to drive to Moncton and work at a cafe. (Kate Letterick/CBC News )

And "The Vault", as it's known, isn't just any co-working space.

Don Bowser and his wife Varvara Pakhomenko came up with the idea to painstakingly recreate the building's former glory, giving it the feel of a bank in the 1930's or 40's.

"We sourced the tables from the Moncton Cathedral from 1910, stripped them down, remade them. We refurbished all the chairs, our bankers chairs from 1920's to 1960's so we've sourced original furniture as much as possible." Bowser said.

And there's another unique feature, a walk-in vault which can be used as a meeting room, or a place to record a podcast.

 

Teri McMackin describes The Vault as light and airy, and says she loves the many antique touches. (Pierre Fournier/CBC News )

During renovations, there was a surprise discovery under a piece of wood inside the vault - it was a smaller safe.

"So on our opening day we had a safe cracker come from Salisbury and he managed to open it up and unfortunately we didn't find any gold or diamonds as we expected." Bowser said with a smile. 

"But we did find out it's the first time it's been opened since 1977 when the Bank of Nova Scotia moved out."

The space has been open since Tuesday and there has already been a steady stream of people coming through to see the many antiques.

There is also a meeting room, and Bowser hopes the community will use the facility in the evenings.


Don Bowser opens the door to the walk-in vault, which can be used as a meeting room. (Kate Letterick/CBC News )

There are COVID-19 precautions in place, with masks, sanitizer and a limited number of people allowed in the building at one time. But Bowser says the pandemic has actually helped the business.

"We've already been contacted by a number of people who said that they are very tired of working at home so they need a space. So this pandemic actually works in our favour in terms of our business plan." he said.

Petitcodiac Mayor Gerald Gogan calls Bowser "a doer" and likes the building's new "old" look.

Gogan says the building has been a bank, a call centre, and a flower shop. He's happy with its new purpose.

"It's great that they can provide the services for the people." he said.

 

Petitcodiac Mayor Gerald Gogan likes the look of the facility and hopes it brings people to the village. (Pierre Fournier/CBC News )

Bowser says the idea is to bring people into the village, people who may have driven by in the past.

"I think this is the main point about revitalization of some of these smaller communities is to get people in to see it. Then what happens is people get interested in perhaps moving here." he said.

There are different rates to use the workspace. Memberships run from $125 for a common table to $250 a month for a dedicated rolltop desk. Work space can be rented for $10 a day and there are rates for students.

 

 Inside the vault is a meeting room, and a safe that was recently opened for the first time since 1977. (Kate Letterick/CBC News )

McMackin likes the light, airy space and the coffee corner, which also features espresso and lattes.

She says co-working space is becoming more common as the workforce changes.

"There's just a whole new wave of workers and we're working differently and we're everywhere." McMackin said.

"We're in these small towns and we're choosing to live in these small towns. If you've got internet, we're here."

 

 

  

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SarahRose Werner
In larger cities one can rent office space by the hour. Need a professional-looking space for an hour or two to meet with clients, whether in person or virtually? It's easily available in these cities. I'd love to see this available more widely in NB. Co-working space is also great for people who are working remotely but find that their home is too distracting, especially if their partner/spouse is also working from home. It's a bit like when I was a kid, if my younger siblings were too noisy at home, I could go to the town library and do my homework there
 
 
Varvara Pakhomenko
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Meeting rooms are available to rent and pay per hour.

 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Varvara Pakhomenko: I was thinking I might use the legion for such things
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Varvara Pakhomenko: Hmmm
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Varvara Pakhomenko: Another benefit of covid(dot.)whatever .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
dwayne edwards
Come see me next year when this is once again a vacant building and up for sale
 
 
Donald Bowser
Reply to @dwayne edwards: Yeah thats not going to happen! Memberships coming in and events already booked without the usual NB government handouts for the building and its renovations. 
 
 
Tim Trites
Reply to @Donald Bowser:
hope not...good luck
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Donald Bowser: Methinks you know why I am chuckling N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Donald Bowser: Methinks if Don Bowser were truly ethical then he and I would have had a long talk many moons ago yet his CBC buddies are still promoting him bigtime to this very day while trying to play dumb N"esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: And what exactly would he want to waste even a single minute of his time talking to you about? Really?
 
 
Donald Bowser
Reply to @David Amos: I talked to you, listened to your ramblings and then you started harassing me at work and at home. Seems your memory is as bad as the rest of your faculties. If you want anyone to be on your side - maybe stop acting like a complete nutter all the time.
 

 

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 01:36:54 -0300
Subject: Methinks if Don Bowser were truly ethical then he and I would  have
had a long talk many moons ago yet his CBC buddies are still promoting him
bigtime to this very day while trying to play dumb N"esy Pas?
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"David.Coon"<David.Coon@gnb.ca>, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
jbosnitch@gmail.com, kedgwickriver <kedgwickriver@gmail.com>,
Ombudsma@radio-canada.ca, andre@jafaust.com,
advocacycollective@yahoo.com, injusticecoalition@hotmail.com,

COCMoncton@gmail.com, john.logan@gnb.ca, Frank.McKenna@td.com,
Davidc.Coon@gmail.com, "Kate.Letterick"<Kate.Letterick@cbc.ca>,
"hugh.flemming"<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"
< blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, premier@gnb.ca, John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca,
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Friday, 16 October 2020
A new workspace with an antique twist opens in Petitcodiac

https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies


David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks if Don Bowser were truly ethical then he and I would have had
a long talk many moons ago yet his CBC buddies are still promoting him
bigtime to this very day while trying to play dumb N"esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/a-new-workspace-with-antique-twist.html


#cdnpoli #nbpoli

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/historic-bank-becomes-new-workspace-1.5763867

A new workspace with an antique twist opens in Petitcodiac
Rented co-working space available for those working remotely

Kate Letterick · CBC News · Posted: Oct 16, 2020 8:00 AM AT


 7 Comments

SarahRose Werner
In larger cities one can rent office space by the hour. Need a
professional-looking space for an hour or two to meet with clients,
whether in person or virtually? It's easily available in these cities.
I'd love to see this available more widely in NB. Co-working space is
also great for people who are working remotely but find that their
home is too distracting, especially if their partner/spouse is also
working from home. It's a bit like when I was a kid, if my younger
siblings were too noisy at home, I could go to the town library and do
my homework there

Varvara Pakhomenko
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Meeting rooms are available to rent and
pay per hour.

David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Varvara Pakhomenko: I was thinking I might use the legion
for such things

David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Varvara Pakhomenko: Hmmm

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Varvara Pakhomenko: Another benefit of covid(dot.)whatever .





dwayne edwards
Come see me next year when this is once again a vacant building and up for sale

Donald Bowser
Reply to @dwayne edwards: Yeah thats not going to happen! Memberships
coming in and events already booked without the usual NB government
handouts for the building and its renovations.

Tim Trites
Reply to @Donald Bowser:
hope not...good luck

David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Donald Bowser: Methinks you know why I am chuckling N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @Donald Bowser: Methinks if Don Bowser were truly ethical
then he and I would have had a long talk many moons ago yet his CBC
buddies are still promoting him bigtime to this very day while trying
to play dumb N"esy Pas?
 

 

 https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2504397194

 

 

 https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=575394

 

CTV Atlantic: One-on-one with Donald Bowser | CTV News

Video for donald bowser cbc
Amanda Debison speaks with Donald Bowser from Dalhousie's Centre for Foreign Policy Studies.

 

 

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9Z9nI1DKoE

 

Don Bowser asks who is running the province in N.B?

4,971 views
May 15, 2014
679 subscribers
Don Bowser is an international expert on transparency and anti-corruption. Having worked many years in several hotspots of the world, he has decided to return to New-Brunswick only to find a situation which he describes as far worse than many of the countries he has dealt with.

 

 

 

 

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Donald Bowser @don_bowser
Wearily fighting against corruption at home (Canada) and abroad (everywhere not Canada) when not busy being chief butler and LEGO advisor to a 10 year old. mes Canada goodgov.ca 
Joined February 2014
Beautifully shot video from @CBCNB on the @PchVault! Drop in for yourself and visit with
 

 https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1807552579780?fbclid=IwAR02d3U4JnPpIJyJmxMFQBT_LUKISQU2Uh5Yj4vtzeK19LD50RxqoiXvlIc

 

 

Donald Bowser
@don_bowser
This is what happens when Government fail to govern and do their duty protecting public interests instead of looking for PR opportunities and patronage schemes.

 

Donald Bowser
@don_bowser
Well #nspoli is being so much more magnanimous than #nbpoli has been during much of epidemic! If it was reversed the pitchforks and torches would be back out!

 


Donald Bowser
@don_bowser
Well yes - hence the creation of the Higgs Jugend in NB to work in fishplants and farms after they tried to ban TFWs.. #nbpoli is positively Dickensian!

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-seafood-processing-temporary-foreign-workers-local-hiring-1.5570176

 

 

Middle and high school students to process lobster after temporary foreign worker ban

New Brunswick plant owners say processing will move to Nova Scotia and P.E.I.

Connell Smith· CBC News· Posted: May 15, 2020 5:30 AM AT |


 

 

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Donald Bowser
@don_bowser
Replying to@poitrasCBC
Way to go @poitrasCBC! Wonder how the oligarch will react to Bruce Livesey? They like to bully #nbpoli but resistance is growing
8:28 AM · Mar 14, 2017


 https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2504397194


Local expert on escalating tension in Ukraine

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Donald Bowser studies Ukraine for an international coalition against
corruption called Transparency International.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/historic-bank-becomes-new-workspace-1.5763867


A new workspace with an antique twist opens in Petitcodiac


Rented co-working space available for those working remotely
Kate Letterick · CBC News · Posted: Oct 16, 2020 8:00 AM AT | Last
Updated: October 16


Varvara Pakhomenko and Don Bowser came up with the idea to bring the
old bank back to it's former glory and offer it as workspace for
remote workers. (Kate Letterick/CBC News)





---------- Original message ----------
 From: Donald Bowser <Donald.Bowser@smu.ca>
 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 00:13:00 +0000
 Subject: RE: I just called about Don Bower;s contact Info
 To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
 Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

 David
 Sorry why are you contacting my work? What is this about? My Great
 Resource Giveaway activities have nothing to do with SMU.

 Don
 ________________________________________
 From: David Amos [motomaniac333@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:10 PM
 To: Yi Xie; SMU International Activities
 Cc: David Amos; Donald Bowser
 Subject: I just called about Don Bower;s contact Info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TlvA76WJhM

http://www.smu.ca/administration/international/team.html

 Donald Bowser, Program Manager (Part-Time)

 Development of new externally-funded international projects;
 identification of key areas of expertise within SMU for international
 projects; support internationalization process.
 Tel: 902-420-5260

 E-mail: donald.bowser@smu.ca



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 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:14:23 -0600
 Subject: Re John Bosnitch Yo Chucky Leblanc Trust that Byron Prior,
 Birgitta Jonsdottir and I as "Bloggers" crossed paths with him and
 Bobby Fischer's lawyer before you even had a blog
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nmcCalder@thesupportnetwork.com, "don.iveson"
 <don.iveson@edmonton.ca>, birgittaj <birgittaj@althingi.is>,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QdCg3sXA_g&list=UUVftTJcoljDpNQR81drXb4g

  Monday, July 28, 2014
 John Bosnitch is confronted by the Fredericton Blogger!!!!!

 I heard a little of this guy and I will admit that I have indeed met
 my match!!!!

 Take the time and listen to this video -

 Posted by Charles LeBlanc at 9:16:00 AM
 1 comment :

 mikel said...

     Interesting comments, but I don't quite agree that New Brunswick
 is the worst place in the world while others are getting marginally
 better (and you certainly can't tell that from a couple of days
 visiting). Go look at virtually any state of the US, they certainly
 aren't getting 'marginally better'. Ukraine certainly isn't
 'marginally better', or the middle east, or even most of europe.

     While there is no doubt about Irving, I fail to see what the
 intrinsic benefit is of having two or three oligarchs as opposed to
 one. Its not like the oligarchs compete with one another to be nicer
 to the populations. Oligarchs pretty much work together even if they
 are in competing industries, thats pretty much the definition of
 'oligarchy'.

     There are standouts, Charles doesn't like it, but all of the
 political parties at these meetings he covers have all said that the
 abortion legislation has to change (except the PA, don't know about
 them). Thats something that has 'always' been bad in NB, its true that
 its 'worse' right now because of the morgentaler closure, but this is
 an issue still very vibrant and its clear the 'status quo' is going to
 change. Young people are getting organized, and I haven't seen that in
 quite some time.

     Natural resources is essentially the same as its always been. Its
 marginally worse with this government, this forestry deal was
 presented to the liberals who apparantly said no, but again, its an
 issue still being resolved. Twenty years ago they were hacking down
 the christmas mountains and there was little opposition at all.

     So I'm not sure what the benchmarks are, but although on some
 human rights issues New Brunswick looks like a backwater, overall its
 not that different than a lot of places.
     9:20 PM, July 28, 2014

 Thursday, 01.05.2006 at 3:47 pm

 Tuesday, June 12, 2007
  Me.Myself.and.I said...
 Here is another deleted blog. If anybody cares out there Rest assured
 I have more.

 Hell I even saved some the skinhead, Dean Roger Ray's work because he
 cut and paste a lot of mine and falsely claimed I was his friend or
 even worse pretended to be me. He blames me for deleting his website
 like I am some sort of powerful Fed. However I am in fact "Just Dave".

 When I saw that Dean Roger Ray was posting my work on websites that I
 had been banned from for years I just giggled and saved his work. Once
 the truth is known as to why his MSN website was erased, he will
 discover it was because he used my work not his.

 I am in fact the most striken man on the internet and in court as
 well. Ask yourself why. I am going back to the woods for awhile to
 watch the good for nothing Canadian Senators spit and chew and
 bullshit us all. I'll be back to sue Harper and his cohorts when the
 time is just right.

 Depupty Dog Robert F. O'meara is a piece of work ain't he? Need I say
 fuck you to all of the Fat Fred City Finest? I will send some men with
 my Durable Power of of Attorney to pick up my old Harley from the
 crook, Alan MacFee of Capital City Towing. Be careful of the FBI
 wiretap tapes in the saddlebags. Don't touch. They are Yankee
 evidence. N'est Pas?

 What holds true for the Grandmaster years ago still holds true for me
 today. I don't mind being called Crazy as a Loon as long as I am free.
 Besides I like that bird and I can actually call them in to check me
 out.

 Wait until I post my letter to the Ambassador from Iceland and the
 Speaker Petey Baby Millikin. that is a hoot if i do say so myself. As
 the Frenchman with five dumb brains Chucky Leblanc would say "Stay
 tuned" Everybody loves a mystery N'est Pas?

 Veritas Vincit
 David Raymond Amos

 March 24, 2005
 Crazy as a Loon, but Free

 Off to Iceland!

 Well, Bobby Fischer has his Icelandic passport. The U.S. government
 can now stop persecuting him for the crime of playing chess in
 Yugoslavia. Fischer may be out of his mind (tha’ts almost certain, if
 you consider his anti-Semitism and praise for the 9-11 attacks), but
 he’s not out of his mind for choosing Iceland as his country of
 refuge. And the Icelanders, who may later regret having such an
 utterly crazy person wandering around in their country, have done the
 right thing by offering him refuge.

 NOTE: I seem to have attracted a stalker, who keeps posting strange
 messages on this site. Whatever.

 Posted by Tom Palmer at March 24, 2005 07:09 AM | TrackBack

 Comments
 Quite frankly I do not understand this. What does Iceland gain from
 this? Fischer himself stated that he would NEVER return to chess. So,
 it is unlikely that he will play for Iceland... and even though he
 did, it is not like he’d be back at the top.
 Now, he might want to teach his fellow Icelanders
 Fischerrandom...Fischerrandom is to chess what Estonian grammar is to
 linguistic ...And THAT sounds like a threat to me. NV


 Posted by: Nathalie I. Vogel at March 24, 2005 08:36 AM

 I doubt that Iceland has much to gain. (And I suspect that the
 inhabitants of Reykjavik may suffer from having an insufferable
 loudmouth crackpot wandering around.) But they did the right thing.
 The better thing would have been for the U.S. to drop its case against
 Mr. Fischer. I don't think you should lose your passport or suffer
 criminal prosecution for traveling someplace to play chess. I think
 that the position of the U.S. government (and of both Democratic and
 Republican administrations) is the harder one to understand.

 Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 24, 2005 08:47 AM

 TGP: "Fischer may be out of his mind (tha’ts almost certain, if you
 consider his anti-Semitism "

 I don't want to go all Szaszian on someone for what is most likely a
 casual comment, but suggesting someone is "out of his mind" simply
 because he is (labeled as) anti-Semitic seems overmuch. Immoral,
 perhaps...poorly informed, possibly...holding to views developed as a
 result of childhood associations, maybe...a confusion on either the
 part of Fischer or the person making the accusation of anti-Semitism
 with anti-Zionism, quite possible. But "out of his mind"?

 Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 24, 2005 11:17 AM

 Ross, Tom did refer to 'his' anti-Semitism; maybe it's not just that
 Fischer does not like Jews, but that he suffers from a particularly
 radical form of bigotry.

 I wouldn't know myself, but that was the inference I drew from Tom's comment.

 Posted by: Henri Hein at March 25, 2005 02:45 AM

 Then, Henri, he would be immoral, or bigoted, not "out of his mind".
 And he should consult an ethicist, not a travel agent or chiropracter
 to bring him back to his mind or better align it.
 Again, my point was merely that "out of his mind" implies one must be
 crazy or mentally ill to be anti-Semitic; I think that's a category
 error.

 Ross

 Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 25, 2005 06:54 PM

 Ross's points are well taken, but I do think that some term such as
 "crazy" (I'll stay away from "mentally ill") is useful in describing
 Mr. Fischer. (And even Thomas Szasz readily admits that there are
 "lots of crazy people" around; he just says that they're not sick.)

 The anti-Semitism that Mr. Fischer spouts is not of the "they wouldn't
 be welcome in our club" sort (bad as that is), but of the "Organized
 International Jewry is out to get me," sort. The former is an example
 of bad behavior, bad manners, immoral views, or the like. The latter
 sort of anti-Semitism is an obsession that seems in general to be
 immune to either moral appeal (since it's a claim about an alleged
 state of affairs, viz., that the Jews run everything and are out to
 get one) or to factual refutation (how do you argue someone out of
 such a...for want of a better word...crazy view?).

 Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 25, 2005 11:34 PM

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: rjvattuone@aol.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:59 AM
 Subject: This is going to get interesting


 Hey Richard

 Thanks for calling me back the other day. Here is my number in Boston
 617 698-6549. I will be hitting the road shortly and I will be sending
 out to you hard copy of what I am sending to Scott Daruty. However
 there is a great deal more you should know ASAP. I am involved against
 the biggest and baddest of them all and we all know they play for
 keeps. It is important that you know much and have evidence of it in
 order to protect yourself. I know they moniter my phone calls and I
 have know doubt that they listen to the Canadain Cell as well. The
 fact that you spoke to me honestly and openly puts you in jeopardy. If
 you had acted like most lawyers, the bastards would leave you alone.
 If you come to my aid, they will attack you. Trust me it has happened
 before and I will send proof of it in the following emails. Some
 contain the Tiffs I mentioned I am curious to see if they get through
 AOL system. I hack been blocked by them in the past. I have not heard
 from Barry Bachrach since just after he warned me that the FBI was
 about to pounce on me on Oct 1st. It seems they have him running
 scared. I must do my best to protect honest men..

 The following is what I just posted but it seems Bill Gates does not
 allow Tiff files in his sites so I will forward it to you to support
 what I said is true. Answer this email if and when you get it an I
 will send some others if you wish. However I think it would be better
 not to use AOL. As I said just get one in Yahoo or Hotmail they work
 better and are free.

 From: motomaniac in response to Message 1 Sent: 3/27/2005 9:21 AM

 In defense of Bobby Fischer I must say that he is just another man
 like me. He has his strengths and his weaknesses. Just like me. One
 particular forte of his, the amazing ability to play a game very well
 thrust him into the limelight for the whole wide world to study and
 examine his every move. More importantly I believe his fame caused him
 to become a pawn in the big big game. Although he had his right to
 privacy, the whole world dogged at his heels and critized his every
 action as a man. The Masters of War obviously tried use him to their
 advantage during the Cold War. He is not a stateman or a lawyer. He is
 simply a free thinking individual who has every right to speak his
 mind particularly after he has suffered through hell just because he
 plays chess so very well.

 I say judge not lest ye be judged and mind your own mouth about things
 you do not know all the details of. I am far more outspoken than Bobby
 ever was and yet you have never even heard of my name. It is because
 the corporate controlled media is not permited to do so. I am nobody
 with any special talent that had caused me to be thrown into public
 scrutiny before I was compelled to speak out as Bobby has done. I do
 not have to agree or disagree with his every word over the years to
 understand his meaning and his troubles. That said, in all honesty it
 would behoove us both if his lawyer would listen to me and employ
 Bobby's fame to expose the truth of all that we say.

 I am am not a perfect person and neither is Bobby. I do not know him
 nor do I judge him. Yet I do agree with with his standing in defense
 of his freedom. The Chessmaster has every right to spout off against
 the Masters of War because they have offended him greatly. It is for
 his attorney to weed out the truth and evidence of his convictions and
 present it in court in order to seek relief on his client's behalf. A
 jury of his peers will decide the truth of his matters not us bloggers
 without veiwing and hearing all the evidence. Forget what you may
 glean from the media. The information is controlled and slanted
 against him. Listen to what his lawyer says and what is used in
 arguement against him on the public record. Do not hold court in the
 media just gossip about things you know are true in order for the
 courts to act properly in the public interest.

 Bobby has paid the devil his due and done time in his jails. It is
 time for him to seek relief. I have as well. I was summoned to jail in
 the USA while running for Parliament in Canada and held under the
 charges of "other". I will not want allow myself to be judged on just
 one particular act or deed. My criminal trial in the USA is coming
 very soon. I will have lots to say.

 It is the average of all our days and deeds that speaks of us as the
 men we are. Like any game, it is what happens in the end that counts.
 Sometimes sacrifices must be made and sometimes mistakes are made.
 However once the word "checkmate" is declared, it is all over but the
 crying as long as we play by the rules and the fat lady sings in tune.
 I am more than happy to provide to Mr. Vattuone my evidence of much
 public corruption in order to support Bobby's lawsuit against the USA.
 It is high time the the Masters of War paid the fiddler and then be
 compelled to dance to a different tune as we make them fall on their
 own sword. No one is above the law. The public trust must be upheld or
 we are all losers in the the big big game. Forget Bobby and chess for
 a minute and listen to what he is saying through his attorney. I
 applaud is efforts in support of Bobby and his legal matters. I hope
 we get on like a house on fire. Any enemy of my foe should be a friend
 of mine. Bobby lawyer is your neighbor listen to him and then speak
 out to protect your own civil rights. What happened to Bobby and I
 could happen to you next. Get it?

 If anyone wishes to challenge what I have said, respond to this
 message with a email account that can hold of 25 megs of attachments.
 I will send you Tiff files of legal documents etc. that will take you
 down path of of the Garden of Good and Evil that everybody knows is
 true. I simply made it a point to prove it. My particular forte that
 helped accomplish such a necessary task is that I am more stubburn
 than a pig, meaner than a snake and smarter than the average bear.
 Much to my chagrin, I am just an average sort of chess player and have
 much to learn from Bobby in that regard but I maintain that chess is
 just a game. Bobby was compelled to play a far more serious and deadly
 game just because of his love of a game. I do recognize his talent but
 my hat is off to him because of what he did and stood for as a man not
 a chess player. In regards to his legal actions methinks I can teach
 his attorney a trick or two of mine.

 If anyone has any questions here is my phone number. 506 434-1379 Feel
 free to argue me and stress test my ethics to the max. It is your
 freedom as well as my own that I am protecting. I think anyone has the
 right to question my motives. I speak plainly and do not hide my
 identity. Integrity does not need a mask to hide behind. However men
 like John Ashcroft and all his cohorts need jails to cage honest men
 who speak their mind about their masks of virtue.

 Bobby is just one man of many. His is fortunate that he is famous.
 Iceland would not do such things on behalf of the likes of me and many
 others. However Canada or Japan or whatever would do the same against
 me to support President Bush in a New York minute. In fact it already
 happened. The one file I have attached is the reason Clark Kent Ervin
 got fired immediately after the recent election. He long along proved
 to me that he was not interested in Truth Justice and the American Way
 and in fact he is a dumb as a post. I will wager I could beat him at
 chess. I know I played him like a fiddle as a lawyer and that is his
 game of choice. It was really to funny to me the advice he offered to
 others as he entered into the Aspen Crowd of nasty dudes. I feel the
 need to quote him. Many a govenment lawyer will understand why I am
 busting my gut laughing. I hope Bobby's lawyer does too.

 Lauren Robinson POGO Fellow " Any advice for your fellow public servants?"

 Clark Kent Ervin "Well, just do your job and let the political chips
 fall where they may. Unless your're willing to do that, it seems to me
 you shouldn't take the job in the first place."

 My answer to his remark is No Shit Sherlock. The former Inspector
 General can expect a rather profound civil lawsuit. He must argue me
 Pro Se or a at least without government assistance on his behalf
 because he failed to act within the scope of his employment and he is
 now out of the job.

 David Raymond Amos


 Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:12 PM

 December 7th, 2003

 Gene Healy Senior Editor Cato Institute
 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
 Washington D.C. 20001-5403
 Phone (202) 842-0200
 Fax (202) 842-3490
 RE: Corruption
 Sir,
 Please find enclosed an exact copy of a letter with all its enclosures
 recently sent to the Hearst Corporation and many others. Many of your
 directors such as Lewis E. Randall, John C. Malone and Jeffrey S. Yass
 should find the documents an interesting read. I ask that you make
 them available for their review.
 I watched David Boaz speak on C-Span the other day and heard him say
 many things. What I found the most interesting was that he said that
 the Cato Institute was named after some rather prolific letter
 writers. I invite you all to read mine. They can be found at the
 website mentioned in the enclosed documents. I could not send this
 letter to Mr. Boaz because he is not a lawyer and an officer of the
 court as you are. This is because only law enforcement authorities or
 officers of the court have any right to listen to the copy of wiretap
 numbered 139. It is served upon you in confidence as an officer of the
 court in order that you may act ethically and see that it is properly
 investigated. Please share the contents of the Cd with only the proper
 authorities so that I may never be accused of violating anyone’s
 Fourth Amendment Rights.
 As I have said to many other lawyers, at the very least I have now
 made you a witness to my pursuit of justice. I ask you simply the
 following. What will you do with your newfound knowledge of Civil
 Rights Violations and Government Corruption?
 Best Regards
 David R.Amos
 153 Alvin Ave.
 Milton MA. 02186

 Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:22 PM

 Um, as I was saying about some people being, um, a bit....well, "different."

 Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 27, 2005 09:12 PM

 Did I mention that I found snotty Oxford dudes had stuffed shirts and
 were great fun to poke fun at as they bullshit others about how smart
 they are?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: marnie.ferguson@keyporter.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:08 PM
 Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding



 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: deborahlbmc@yahoo.com ; egeetter@bu.edu ;
dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; lawrence_summers@harvard.edu ;
wrogersjr@therogerslawfirm.com ; thomas.hannigan@ropesgray.com ;
jotodd@toddweld.com
 Cc: warren.tolman@hklaw.com ; dan@dankennedy.net ; w.kirtz@neu.edu ;
howiecarr@wrko.com ; bzelnick@bu.edu ; n.daniloff@neu.edu ;
barnicle@969fmtalk.com ; wsj.ltrs@wsj.com ; amy.wolfcale@dowjones.com
 ; joseph.stern@dowjones.com ; letters@washpost.com ; fair@fair.org ;
editor@usatoday.com ; pressreleases@upi.com ; letters@time.com ;
newshour@pbs.org ; ombudsman@npr.org ; morning@npr.org ;
letters@newsweek.com ; nytnews@nytimes.com ;
dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; gillooly@dailyfreepress.com ;
dfpnews@dailyfreepress.com ; 48hours@cbsnews.com ; pr@ap.org ;
nightline@abcnews.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:21 PM
 Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding


 Hey

 It appears that all the Law Schools know nothing of ethical behavior
 if it may affect their coffers. I made it my task to prove it. Lets
 see if I can turn the worm and make the light dawn on Marblehead for
 the benefit of all.

 Whereas Todd Klipp is on Legal Advisory Committee United Educators
 (UE) Insurance Risk Retention Group I called Corporate Counsel, Jan
 Holt and told her something is up and that I would be serving the Hard
 Copy of the evidence that proves what I say is true upon Mr. Klipp. If
 I were you I would go to the US District Court in Beantown, query the
 dockets that bear my name and ask the BU professor Chief Justice Young
 about his integrity and his association with crooks like Charles J.
 Kickham Jr. and all of his cohorts.

 Cardinal Law would be a good witness to ask to start a proper
 investigation that is if you can get whoever becomes the next US
 Ambassador to the Vatican to make him fess up about his sins.
 Otherwise ask his former secretary Robert Kickham he is now O'Malley's
 secretary. I have no doubt that little bastard knows everything but
 trust that the three legal stooges Todd, Rogers and Hannigan have told
 him to shut up and wait for me to quit or die. However I think the
 Kickhams will soon fold their hand and start rattin out others very
 soon. Their is no honour amongst theives and I have the Kickhams
 cornered after three years of hard work. Their big daddy Chucky is
 dead and the rest of them are as dumb as a post. Uncle Franky has been
 dead since last June and I have finally forced the court to admit it.
 None of their accountings have been assented to by anyone and the IRS
 must check their work before my wife will settle. the Feds have a big
 problem and everybody knows its me.

 I am proud to say I won't quit and don't care if I die. I made certain
 that my truths live on and that no Kickham relatives can no longer
 claim to be kin to my little Clan. I refuse to allow my family to
 associate with bible pounding criminals that expound of law nor will I
 settle with them in order that they may escape justice. They must be
 held accountable and so should all their friends.

 I may seem crazy but at least I know my rights and will not allow
 wrongs against my family to go unpunished, particularly when the
 wrongs are practiced by people well paid or licensed by the state to
 insure that matters such as this never happen. If I am not crazy then
 the governments of Canada and the USA must be insanely corrupt. I know
 for a fact that there are a lot of ordinary people that agree with me
 therefore I know I am OK but I have my doubts about you. i am giving
 Mr. Klipp just enough evidence to impeach George Bush and for safe
 measure I am giving the same material to many others as well. Here's
 hoping ethics wins out after all. Otherwise we are all losers and the
 crooks within such organizations as the Aspen Institute will keep on
 advising the bastards on how to screw us all.

 The judges of the First Circuit of the US District Court have a lot to
 be accountable for and Judge Young is well aware of it all. He has no
 right to teach others about trial practice and the law until he proves
 that he understands how to uphold the law. I will be suing the bastard
 in short order you pick whether you wish to stand with him or me.
 There is no middle ground in this legal battle for Boston University
 to stand on. Judge Young is in your employ. However methinks he is no
 longer a feather in your cap. The University has bragged to have such
 a man to teach the students. What say you now?

 Trust that I don't care if anyone reads this email or not. In fact it
 will be more fun if ya didn't.

 "The Honorable William G. Young was appointed judge of the U.S.
 District Court for Massachusetts in 1984, after serving as associate
 justice of the state’s Superior Court. Prior positions include special
 assistant attorney general, chief counsel to the governor, and clerk
 for the Honorable Raymond Wilkins, former chief justice of the
 Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Judge Young has a long list of
 pro bono activities, teaching experience, and several awards,
 including the Award for Judicial Excellence from the Massachusetts
 Academy of Trial Attorneys. Judge Young developed the course Advanced
 Trial Practice and also teaches Evidence."

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: jb95@bu.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:02 PM
 Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding



 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: MauraH@ci.boston.ma.us ; maurah@maurahennigan.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:36 PM
 Subject: I just called I am not kidding



 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: info@pogo.org ; elliot.gerson@aspeninstitute.org ;
pat.zindulka@aspeninstitute.org ; peter. reiling@aspeninstitute.org ;
clark.ervin@aspeninstitute.org
 Cc: brian@questionsquestions.net ; plough@ploughshares.ca ; moto
 maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ; kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; backtalk@motherjones.com
 ; Wes Penre@Illuminati News.com ; tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ;
david@davidakin.com ; McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca ;
Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:30 AM
 Subject: I just left voicemail for Jim Spiegelman


 Hey Fellas
 I have picked you Mr. Gerson to send exactly the same material that I
 sent to two Solicitor Generals last year before I ran for Parliament
 in Canada. I am certain that material caused Theodore Olson to quit
 his job and your brand new fellow, Clark Kent Erwin to get the boot
 from his job right after the last Yankee election.
 Obviously I picked you because of your own bragging. There is no need
 for me to expand upon things that you and I know to be true. It is
 merely my task to prove to the world that you are well aware of my
 concerns and allegations. Then if you and your Association does
 nothing to uphold the public trust, I will make it my best effort to
 embarrass you all in court in front of a jury of my peers. You people
 claim to inspire people to ethical leaders? I say Bullshit. What say
 you?
 Say Hey to Superman for me. Will ya? Yea I know I just did but he
 likes to keep everything in confidence while his cohorts keep me
 falsely imprisoned. However I plan to call him to testify during my
 pending criminal trial as I have the right to do. I should be very
 interesting to see if he takes the fifth.
 David R. Amos


 "Elliot Gerson is responsible for the Aspen Institute's seminars,
 including the Executive Seminar, topical and custom seminars, and
 those offered in the Society of Fellows and Socrates programs. He also
 manages the Institute's public programs and activities, including the
 Aspen Ideas Festival. He is a graduate of Harvard College, Oxford
 University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar, and Yale Law School. As
 American Secretary of the Rhodes Trust, he manages the U.S. Rhodes
 Scholarships and is an advisor to the Mandela Rhodes Foundation in
 Cape Town, which focuses on African higher education and leadership.
 He was a U. S. Supreme Court clerk and has had a career including the
 practice of law, executive positions in state and federal government
 and a presidential campaign, president of leading insurance and
 healthcare companies, and service on many non-profit boards,
 especially in the arts."


 Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:23 PM

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: backtalk@motherjones.com
 Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:01 PM
 Subject: Fw: Cya in court Cato


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ; tcarpent@cato.org ;
dboaz@cato.org ; rpilon@cato.org ; cpreble@cato.org ; tlynch@cato.org
 ; blindsey@cato.org ; rlevy@cato.org ; tfirey@cato.org ;
ecrane@cato.org
 Cc: Wes Penre@Illuminati News ; freedom_of_information@yahoogroups.com
 ; Letters@globeandmail.ca ; webmaster@canadalawcourts.com ; lloyd
 brinson ; J. D. Kuntz ; elois@newdata.ca ; Jack Hook ; John Bjornstrom
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 8:47 PM
 Subject: Cya in court Cato

 Hey Tommy Boy
 You invited me. These are your words correct? I tried to register on
 line but your link does not work. I want to come. we should be in
 agreement in most things but I know we are not and we should really
 talk about it before I file my civil lawsuits. You people have already
 proven to me your malice. this is your last chance to act ethically.
 My criminal trial will begin shortly thereafter and I may call some of
 you to testify at it. One of them could be you. I am one of those
 people that many already turn to for an honest opinion. Right or wrong
 they know my answer comes from sincere ethical consideration because I
 am more a man of my word than legions of lawyers ever were. I am good
 to my friends and sheer hell to my foes. I hate the false fronts of
 integrity of the people you joke about within your following
 invitation. You are joking. I am not.
 Dear Friend,

 Would you like to be the person to whom others turn for an explanation
 of the debate over Social Security and retirement, the economics of
 international trade, or how to control pollution and protect the
 environment through incentives? Would you like to be better able to
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 to your friends, colleagues, and family members?

 If so, you should come to Washington, D.C., for the Cato University
 seminar April 28 to May 1 on Applied Economics: User-Friendly Tools to
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 Our goal is to help attendees become the people to whom their friends
 turn to explain the economy and how political interference in markets
 tends to generate disaster. And there's a reason it's being held in
 Washington, D.C. You see, we want to change fundamentally the culture
 of Washington, D.C. Washington's a very strange city. Most of the
 people here spend their working days taking from Peter to give to Paul
 (minus a substantial cut, of course). Or writing minute and
 incomprehensible "regulations" on the optimal size of broccoli, or
 warning people to wear sensible shoes, or just figuring out new ways
 to strip American citizens of their rights and dignity.

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 You'll learn how to make the arguments that will convince your
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 three. Each is a stand alone seminar, but all three are complementary.
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 Cordially,

 and Signed by you. Tom Palmer

 In order not to be somehow overlooked, I just called you cell phone to
 cell phone so that I would have a record of contact to let you know we
 had a problem to discuss. You were to busy to talk so you missed your
 chance. Methinks you are a fine example of the reason your buddy Gene
 Healy and his ilk ignored me. I read enough of your work to think you
 are a very snotty tall talking whore for the Global Corps. I wanted to
 hear your voice to be certain my feelings were correct. You did not
 dissappoint me. If you don't like my opinion of you, sue me and bring
 all these emails to court. I promise I will not file a motion to
 dismiss. In fact I can't wait to meet your lawyers. I thought what you
 said about Bobby Fischer was far more offensive and as you can see I
 blogged in his defense. Many people call me crazy too. That seem to be
 the label bad actors put on someone when they are cornered. I wanted
 you to hear my voice so that you would understand that I am not nuts
 but very sincere. when you shunned my last words were see you in
 court. Ignore me some more and you certainly will. Check my work
 before you laugh and call me crazy too.
 In order to prove you all I am serious I will send Roger Pilon, Vice
 President for Legal Affairs at 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.,
 Washington D.C. 20001-5403 hard copy of exactly the same material I
 sent to two Solicitor Generals last year just before I ran for
 Parliament. Teddy Olson quit and went into private practice as soon as
 Stephen Harper opened his mouth about the Arar Inquiry but thus far
 Landslide Annie has hung onto hers. Now if you have any questions of
 me before we meet, ask them to New Canadian Ambassador Franky Boy
 McKenna. He knows exactly who I am and what has happened in the year
 since. If you want a Yankee perspective ask John Ashcroft, John
 Edwards. Tom Ridge, Clark Kent Ervin, Theodore Olson or David
 Aufhauser to name a few. They all are now free agents and in the same
 hot water as your buddy and now you.
 I emailed ya, blogged ya, called ya and am now telling some your
 friends plus a few of mine for good measure. Under Title 18 of the
 federal code you are all as guilty as everyone else if you don't get
 honest real fast. Ask Frank Quatronne and Martha Stewart about email
 evidence in federal court
 In light of the reasons I was falsely imprisoned and what I had sent
 you dudes the year before it makes Cato's work in "Go Directly to
 Jail: The Criminalization of Almost Everything." a total bullshit
 piece of work. It is my job to properly shame you bastards so that
 nobody will take you seriously ever again.

 "At one time, the sanction of the criminal law was reserved for
 serious, morally culpable offenders. But during the past 40 years, an
 unholy alliance of tough-on-crime conservatives and anti-big-business
 liberals has utterly transformed the criminal law. Today, while
 violent crime often goes unpunished, Congress continues to add new,
 trivial offenses to the federal criminal code. With more than 4,000
 federal offenses on the statute books, and thousands more buried in
 the Code of Federal Regulations, it is now frighteningly easy for
 American citizens to be hauled off to jail for actions that no
 reasonable person would regard as crimes. At the same time, rampant
 federalization and mandatory minimum sentencing are making America’s
 criminal justice system ever more centralized and punitive. The result
 is a labyrinthine criminal code, a burgeoning prison population, and
 often real injustice. Go Directly to Jail examines those alarming
 trends and proposes reforms that could rein in a criminal justice
 apparatus at war with fairness and common sense."
 If you dudes do not want me to turn up after being invited please let
 me know why in writing and introduce me to the lawyer I will be
 arguing someday in court.
 David R. Amos
 153 Alvin Ave.
 Milton, MA 02186

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: dante17678@hotmail.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:20 AM
 Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: rjvattuone@aol.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:04 AM
 Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: lsewell@canadians.org
 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:27 AM
 Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: jeffryhouse@hotmail.com
 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:03 AM
 Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca ; Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca ; Jack Layton ;
Easter.W@parl.gc.ca ; Cadman.C@parl.gc.ca ; Casey.B@parl.gc.ca ;
Thompson.G@parl.gc.ca
 Cc: McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca ;
macaul1@parl.gc.ca ; Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca ; Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca ;
Anderson.D@parl.gc.ca ; Anderson.Da@parl.gc.ca ;
david.anderson1@sk.sympatico.ca
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:12 PM
 Subject: Hunky-dory EH Petey


 I got a better one for ya Petey Boy. "Thar she blows". I bet Belinda
 is really pissed off at everybody and is letting off some steam. If I
 were you I would start bailing out of your new party like any other
 rat that would desert a sinking ship. That is one boat that could
 never float. The way you back stabbed your way into its creation will
 likely never be forgotten. Some of the new Senators Martin just
 appointed proved that didn't they? Right now you are just hanging on
 and kissing Harper's arse because nobody else will ever trust you in
 their Dory except maybe the diddler, Billy Matthews. He is used to
 turningcoat and needs help bailing out his punky little craft. I think
 the liberals are tired of him by now and Johnny Crosbie is likely
 pretty pissed at him too. I think you two dudes should be good company
 for each other as everybody else tries to distance themselves from a
 couple of cry babies that call themselves Maritimers. You were born
 there alright but a lair lawyer and a nasty old diddler reflect poorly
 upon the rest of us. But bad apples fall from the best of trees. The
 sooner the better so that they don't suck the sap out of the good
 ones.
 Dare to argue me Petey Boy? I am ten times meaner with no temper than
 the man that pitches silly fits kicks chairs. I would kick your arse
 in a good debate. I would laugh if you asked me to step outside, head
 for the door and quit talking immediately in a sincere effort to kick
 your arse in the street. Win or lose, rest assured I would have fun.
 Fighting is a true Maritime tradition. EH MacKay? Feel free to try to
 call me a liar. Everybody knows it would be a case of the pot trying
 to call the kettle black.

 "The Nova Scotia MP described his relations with Conservative Leader
 Stephen Harper as "hunky-dory, everything's great - that's a good
 Maritime phrase."
 Forwarded Message

 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:14:47 -0800 (PST)

 From: David Amos"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

 Subject: Attn Don Amos

 To: MEC.investors@magnaent.com, dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca,
smay@pattersonpalmer.ca

 As I stated within an earlier email, Scott Daruty finally called me
 back and pissed me off. He picked the wrong guy to try and toy with. I
 will take up my concerns with Magna byway of Daruty and Cellucci down
 here in the Yankee courts. I have much proof of what I sent Belinda
 Stronach long before she ever became a Member of Parliament up home. I
 will deal with her in a political fashion first to see if she is
 interested in up holding the public trust while protecting her
 interests in Magna. Good luck with your conscience as a lawyer named
 Amos as you check my work. Here is my phone number 506 434-1379 if you
 have any questions before deciding whether or not to uphold the law
 and protect the investor's interests in Magna from my necessary civil
 actions. I gave my material to Argeo P. Cellucci in Canada in July of
 2002 before I sent the Sheriffs out with my first complaints. I know
 by the fax numbers at the top of my first complaint that it was
 Ashcroft and Cellucci that directed the US Attorney to try to make my
 complaints evaporate. Now that Cellucci speaks for Magna and Belinda
 speaks for Canadians there is a couple of Amos boys that should have
 along talk about many things. But forget trying to label me as your
 brother until I am assured of your integrity. I have a high contempt
 towards lawyers and their sense of ethics for very justifiable
 reasons.

 Note: forwarded message attached.


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca ; moto maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ;
kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; danthebagelman@msn.com ; info@electtomobrien.com ;
lcampenella@ledger.com ; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; newsonline@bbc.co.uk ;
Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ;
MEC.investors@magnaent.com
 Cc: zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ; savoya2@parl.gc.ca ;
thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ;
martib@sen.parl.gc.ca ; dougchristielaw@shaw.ca ;
Mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ; Stephen.Murphy@ci.boston.ma.us ;
Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ; brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca ;
McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:14 PM
 Subject: Shame on you Della


 At least I am a man of my word. I called you personally as I stated I
 would. I have the record of the call that I was directed to do by your
 boss, Stevey Boy May. Too bad you would not speak to me to protect
 your own interests. At least I have your signature because no word
 from you is worthless to me. You can never claim ignorance of my
 concerns after directing me to your lawyer. I stuck my hand out to you
 as a layman but you had picked your friends the lawyers and had
 enlisted them to bite it? Do you really Think I am afraid of dealing
 with the likes of Johnny Crosbie and Stevey Boy May when I am
 preparing a lawsuit against the likes of John Edwards, John Ashcroft
 and Theodore Olson to name a few? Plus there is the irrefutable fact
 that you and the law firm you work for have already admitted that you
 are aware of the crimes practiced against me. You have done nothing to
 uphold the law and have already filed the evidence of that fact in the
 Newfoundland Supreme Court. Lady, either I or my estate will bankrupt
 you and your firm with its own sworn testimony that you witnessed. You
 can take that to the bank. The first question I must ask you Della
 what did your law fir do with its copy of the police surveillance tape
 # 139 and did you listen to it? You should not have because you are
 not an officer of the court nor are you employed by law enforcement.
 The Lieutenant Governor Roberts notified me that he had given his
 copies of the material to Tommy Marshall to be investigated but I have
 received no word from your law firm as to what the hell they did with
 their copies. Have your lawyers explain their integrity to you because
 you and I will never come to an understanding of ethical behavior
 after your treatment of me today. I often sing the praises of Newfys
 because they are amongst the nicest folks on the planet excepting of
 course their lawyers and their cohorts such as you Della. By the way I
 heard about the clerks in Supreme Court having a little wager over who
 buys lunch if I managed to do what I said I would do. I would like to
 meet the lady who felt I was as serious as a heart attack and willing
 to buy lunch if I was not a man of my word. I would love to buy her
 lunch some time because the courts need more folks like her in their
 employment. She clearly did not disregard the word of a common man.
 On the other hand after our exchange of the mere few words today it
 would not be wise for me to trust your word or typing if I had left
 the voicemail you desired. I have much evidence of many edited
 transcripts of things I have said in the past. You and I will argue
 them some day no doubt byway of your lawyer friends because I think
 you don't speak pro se very well in order to protect your personal
 interests. I just got off the phone with one of Frank Stronach's
 Yankee lawyers Scott Daruty. He did me the service of really pissing
 me off today by finally calling me back after I had torn a piece off
 of Magna in Canada about his neglect of duty on their behalf. He
 thought he was funny by joking that the Canadian lawyer, Don Amos was
 my brother. No lawyer is a brother of mine. He thought I was joking
 when I told him I would sue him personally if he did not uphold the
 law and rat out Magna's brand new Vice President his brother, Argeo P.
 Cellucci so I had to repeat myself so he would understand me in no
 uncertain terms. I do make a lot of jokes about very serious business
 however it would not be wise to underestimate my sincerity and attempt
 to toy with me. I enjoy a good fight win or lose as long as I stand on
 the right side of the battle. You just picked a fight with me lady on
 a day when I ain't taking prisoners from lawyers or their cohorts. All
 lawyers are liars and I have proven it. It is only laymen I will
 settle with from now on and only if they tell the truth, the whole
 truth and nothing but the truth.
 I don't care if your god helps you or not. We can all do it again in
 hell for all I care.
 From now on I must rely on hard copy of my own creation. For now I
 will send you and Stevey Boy a bunch of emails that have been
 forwarded to many other people first. I require the record of doing
 so. Whereas I have no doubt Stevey Boy will wan to argue about the
 emails I have already sent I figure why not be hung for a cow as a
 calf? Since everything in heaven and hell is done in threes. I will
 forward to Magna's lawyer, Don Amos, Stevey Boy and three large emails
 that contain Tiff files. There is no need to be redundant with hard
 copy already sent to Scott Daruty and Johnny Crosbie. You can tell the
 folks at Patterson Palmer who directed you to offend me that the
 emails contain exactly the same documents that Greg Byrne and Johnny
 Crosbie received and that you should all prepare to argue every word
 within in them. The first email contains a file called Big Day. It
 contains every document I served upon Two Solicitors Generals Theodore
 Olson and Anne McLellan before I ran for Parliament and Olson quit his
 job on June 24th immediately after Johnny Crosbie told Stevey Harper
 to shut up about the Arar Inquiry. the second file is called Big
 Canada Add and it is a copy of the documents served upon my political
 opponents while running for Parliament. Last but not least are what
 was added to the first to pile of documents and then served upon
 Patterson and Palmer by way of Greg Byrne.
 Scott Daruty is receiving the documents within "Big Day" and other
 interesting material that Magna should find quite interesting to say
 the least. Magna really made my day when they appointed Cellucci and
 their new VP. I is comical that he is going to lobby the government
 about horse racing especially after listening to what is recorded on a
 lot of the tapes and the fact that the top dog of the RCMP had to
 teach that dumb Yankee how to ride a horse last summer so that he
 would not make an ass out himself at the Calgary Stampede. This was
 almost as rich as when Martin sent Franky McKenna to Washington after
 he and I had a spit and chew about dogs and pork. At least I am clever
 enough to realize when I am a lucky man and how to make the best out
 of a golden opportunity to see that justice is served upon some very
 nasty bastards. I am very pissed off but still having more fun than
 ten men. I love cornering lawyers and listening to them stutter and
 try to duck the issues. I will wager that you are having a bad day
 too. EH Della? It looks good on you if you are. Why not get mad? I
 hope you share your anger with the others at Patterson and Palmer and
 start bitchin about me. Never forget all I want is the truth from you.
 It will cost you nothing. Why do you want to stand with crooks and
 liars for a days pay? I bet you have witnessed lots of dirty dealings.
 I truly beleive that there is no honour in your work. To me working
 for lawyers is like a lady being sent to a nunnery in Medieval times.
 I share ol Shake's opinion of such a place. Times changes nothing
 lawyers still work for Jesuits. Look around downtown St John's and
 call me a liar. I dare ya. Even the name of the town says it all.
 Cya'll in Court:)
 David R. Amos

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: David Amos
 To: dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca ; moto maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ;
kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; danthebagelman@msn.com ; info@electtomobrien.com ;
lcampenella@ledger.com ; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; newsonline@bbc.co.uk ;
Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com
 Cc: zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ; savoya2@parl.gc.ca ;
thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ;
martib@sen.parl.gc.ca ; dougchristielaw@shaw.ca ;
Mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ; Stephen.Murphy@ci.boston.ma.us ;
Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ; brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca ;
McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:33 AM
 Subject: RE: Me versus Patterson and Palmer


 Hey Della,
 I see that Stevey Boy is on vacation and told me to contact you. I am
 happy to hear that he is saving all of my emails in a special spot for
 some apparent future litigation. I keep very good records as well and
 look forward to his argument but I will wager that I sue him first.
 I see by the following Affidavit you witnessed and Stevey Boy filed in
 court that every lawyer within Patterson Palmer is a flat out liar. I
 served Greg Byryne in Fredericton myself with witnesses before Byron
 Prior served everyone else in Newfoundland. If Byrne did not share the
 info with his buddy Johnny Crosbie, it is not my fault. Yet I suspect
 that he did so out of the gate because he sent me an email in which it
 appears that he was conferring with many others about me and my
 concerns. It was too funny that Byrne clicked the wrong button and
 forwarded his email to me as well.
 I also sent many of your people the same emails that I sent to Byrne
 and May as soon as I got out off jail last October and Stevey Boy
 first contacted Byron Prior and I had called him. (Thank you for
 making a transcript of my voicemail and filing it in court for me. It
 is quite hard for me to make lawyers even admit that I exist) Some of
 the aforesaid emails were responded to by other members of your law
 firm byway of their computers like Stevey Boy's just did. At least
 computers are far more honest than the lawyers that own them. I am
 compelled to rely on the integrity of their machines and the ability
 of their computers and mine to keep perfect records. (Never forget I
 am being prosecuted for sending an email to a lawyer I have been
 litigating against for years who even went as far to fraudulently
 create a document bearing my signature) Because of the fact I can
 prove contact with many members of the law firm you work for, they can
 never say that they did not know of my concerns and allegations long
 before Stevey complained of Byron Prior's actions on behalf of his
 client Billy Matthews. He only went forward with his malicious threat
 when he thought my goose was cooked down here. There is quite simply
 no way you could have prepared his filing on January 21st and he had
 Judge green sign it in the time between Byron had served it and the
 Judge signed it without the Bastards reading our private emails and
 listening to our phone calls. I sent the last email containing the
 words to Byron's counterclaim just before I went to court that morning
 and he only managed to see it filed by 3 PM Newfy time. You may be a
 fast typists but the courts don't work that fast unless they are
 covering up something big time. No know as well as I that is true
 because the judge and Stevey Boy do not even want other lawyers to
 view the public record. Small wonder he took a vacation. If Stevey Boy
 has any semblance of a conscience he no doubt has trouble dealing with
 himself. I can only wonder if he and Johnny Crosbie are singing for
 more tequila right now.
 As you no doubt know I am preparing to defend myself in a criminal
 trial in the USA and filing some rather profound civil lawsuits in
 Canada and the USA that will make the whining of Billy Matthews in
 Newfoundland Supreme court seem rather comical. I will be filing
 copies of the documents you no doubt helped create for Stevey Boy May
 on behalf of your law firm in many courts.
 If Greg Byrne, the former Minister of Justice and Attorney General of
 New Brunswick had acted ethically last September while I was in Canada
 and under Brad Green's jurisdiction I would not have been falsely
 imprisoned in the USA the following month. I will be suing him, your
 law firm and many others for personal injury and conspiracy to cover
 up the many crimes practiced against my Clan and I. My question to
 you, Della is why don't I sue you too? As you can see if you have read
 my work my battle is with corrupt lawyers not layman. I would settle
 with you in a heartbeat for costs if you would be honest about all
 that you know to be true. If you decide to go against me I suggest
 that you seek legal counsel outside of your law firm or in fact all of
 Newfoundland. I am about to take on every damned lawyer within the
 Newfoundland law Society. You would not be wise to doubt me before you
 have a look at my work in the USA. I will deal with Newfys under the
 heading of fun after I have embarrassed the Yankees.
 I will give you a call as Stevey Boy suggests so that at least you can
 understand that I am not an unreasonable person and not the sort of
 person that lawyers claim that I am. I am just a simple, sincere and
 serious man that refuses to play the wicked games lawyers play. I am
 willing to die in order to expose the truth. No lawyer can say that.
 they love money to much to be willing to miss the chance to spend it.
 Judge me for yourself and your own best interests before you choose
 whom to stand with.
 Whether you believe me or not I am battling for your rights as well as
 my own. I am forwarding this email to many ordinary people like you
 and me. To Hell with the lawyers and politicians. They do what they do
 for personal gain not public service. Their concerns are lucre not
 justice and everybody knows it. All I did was go to great lengths to
 prove it. There is no need for you and I to argue about simple truths.
 As far as I am concerned up until the time you received this email all
 you have done is type things and witness signatures. However you
 cannot say that anymore.
 My pending phone call to you is not harassment. I need the Yankee
 phone bill record of my call to you in order to assist in the defence
 of my freedom in the USA. Stevey Boy told me to call ya. Please be
 nice. After today you can't say that you are not involved in my false
 imprisonment in the USA. I am doing no more or less than Stevey Boy
 and his malicious clients would do if the same thing had happened to
 them. If Billy Matthews had been summoned to the USA while he was
 running for his seat in Parliament to be presecuted by an unsigned
 criminal complaint and then held without bail under the charges of
 "other", he would be more pissed off than I am.
 Cya'll in Court:)
 David R. Amos

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "May, Steve"
 To: "David Amos"
 Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:32 PM
 Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Dan and Tom Remember me


 Mr. May is out of the office till 11 April 2005. He will not be
 checking his e-mail. Please contact Della Hart at 709-570-5527 or
dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca if you require immediate assistance.


 2005 01 T 0010
 IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR
 TRIAL DIVISION
 BETWEEN:
 WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF
 AND:
 BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT

 AND BETWEEN:
 BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT/PLAINTIFF
 BY COUNTERCLAIM

 AND: WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF/FIRST DEFENDANT
 BY COUNTERCLAIM

 AND: T. ALEX HICKMAN SECOND DEFENDANT
 BY COUNTERCLAIM

 AND: THOMAS MARSHALL THIRD DEFENDANT
 BY COUNTERCLAIM

 AND: DANNY WILLIAMS FOURTH DEFENDANT
 BY COUNTERCLAIM

 AND: EDWARD M. ROBERTS FIFTH DEFENDANT
 BY COUNTERCLAIM

 AND: JOHN CROSBIE SIXTH DEFENDANT
 BY COUNTERCLAIM

 AND: PATTERSON PALMER SEVENTH DEFENDANT
 BY COUNTERCLAIM
 SUMMARY OF CURRENT DOCUMENTCourt File Number(s):2005 01 T 0010Date of
 Filing of Document:25 January 2005Name of Filing Party or
 Person:Stephen J. MayApplication to which Document being filed
 relates:Amended Application of the Plaintiff/Defendant by Counterclaim
 to maintain an Order restricting publication, to strike portions of
 the Statement of Defence, strike the Counterclaim in it’s entirety,
 and to refer this proceeding to case management.Statement of purpose
 in filing:To maintain an Order restricting publication, to strike
 portions of the Statement of Defence, strike the Counterclaim in its
 entirety and refer this proceeding to case management.
 A F F I D A V I T

 I, Stephen J. May, of the City of St. John’s, in the Province of
 Newfoundland and Labrador, Barrister and Solicitor, make oath and say
 as follows:

 THAT I am a Partner in the St. John’s office of PATTERSON PALMER
 solicitors for William Matthews, the Member of Parliament for
 Random-Burin-St. George’s in the Parliament of Canada.

 THAT Mr. Matthews originally retained Mr. Edward Roberts, Q.C. on or
 about 30 April 2002 after Mr. Byron Prior, the Defendant/Plaintiff by
 Counterclaim, had made allegations against Mr. Matthews in a
 publication called “My Inheritance - The truth - Not Fiction: A Town
 with a Secret”. In that publication, the allegation was made that Mr.
 Matthews had had sex with a girl who had been prostituted by her
 mother. That girl was alleged to have been Mr. Prior’s sister.

 THAT upon being retained, Mr. Edward Roberts wrote a letter to Mr.
 Prior. That letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit “1" to my
 Affidavit.

 THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts’ letter to Mr. Prior, Mr. Roberts
 received a 1 May 2002 e-mail from Mr. Prior. That e-mail is attached
 as Exhibit “2".

 THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts receipt of the e-mail, Mr. Prior swore
 an Affidavit acknowledging that what had been said in that publication
 was false. That Affidavit is attached as Exhibit “3" to my Affidavit.
 Following Mr. Roberts’ receipt of that Affidavit, Mr. Matthews advised
 that he was satisfied not to pursue the matter any further and our
 firm closed our file.

 THAT on or about 25 October 2004, I was retained by Mr. Matthews
 following his gaining knowledge that a web site, made a series of
 allegations against him relating to my having sex with a girl of
 approximately 12 years old through to an approximate age of 15 years
 old. It also accused him of being a father of one of her children and
 accused him of having raped that girl. Upon checking the web site I
 saw that Byron Prior, the Defendant, had been identified as the author
 of the material on the site.

 THAT Mr. Matthews instructed me to write Mr. Prior, to remind him of
 the fact that the allegations had been admitted to being false through
 a 16 May 2002 Affidavit to advise him of Mr. Matthews’ intentions to
 commence legal proceedings if the comments were not removed from the
 web site. A copy of my letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit “4"
 to this Affidavit.

 THAT I attach as Exhibit “5" a transcript from a 5 November 2004
 voicemail left by David Amos, identified in the voicemail as a friend
 of Mr. Prior.

 THAT I attach as Exhibit “6" a portion of a 6 November 2004 e-mail
 from Mr. Amos.

 THAT until I received his voicemail and e-mail, I had never heard of Mr. Amos.

 THAT Mr. Amos has continued to send me e-mail since his 5 November
 e-mail. Including his 6 November 2004 e-mail, I have received a total
 of 15 e-mails as of 23 January 2005. All do not address Mr. Matthews’
claim or my involvement as Mr. Matthews’ solicitor. I attach as
 Exhibit “7" a portion of a 12 January 2005 e-mail that Mr. Amos sent
 to me but originally came to my attention through Ms. Lois Skanes
 whose firm had received a copy. This e-mail followed the service of
 the Statement of Claim on 11 January 2005 on Mr. Prior. I also attach
 as Exhibit “8" a copy of a 19 January 2005 e-mail from Mr. Amos.

 THAT I attach as Exhibit “9" a copy of a 22 November 2004 letter
 addressed to me from Edward Roberts, the Lieutenant Governor of
 Newfoundland and Labrador covering a 2 September 2004 letter from Mr.
 Amos addressed to John Crosbie, Edward Roberts, in his capacity as
 Lieutenant Governor, Danny Williams, in his capacity as Premier of
 Newfoundland and Labrador, and Brian F. Furey, President of the Law
 Society of Newfoundland and Labrador. I requested a copy of this
 letter from Government House after asking Mr. Roberts if he had
 received any correspondence from Mr. Amos during his previous
 representation of Mr. Matthews. He advised me that he received a
 letter since becoming Lieutenant Governor, portions of which involved
 his representation of Mr. Matthews. Mr. Roberts’ letter also covered
 his reply to Mr. Amos.

 THAT I attach as Exhibit “10" an e-mail from Mr. Amos received on
 Sunday, 23 January 2005.

 THAT I swear this Affidavit in support of the Application to strike
 Mr. Prior’s counterclaim.


 SWORN to before me at
 St. John’s, Province of Newfoundland
 and Labrador this 24th day of
 January, 2005.


 Signed by Della Hart STEPHEN J. MAY Signature
 STAMP
 DELLA HART
 A Commissioner for Oaths in and for
 the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.
 My commission expires on December 31, 2009.
 The Conservatives in Canada have very Punky Dory EH Tommy Boy?

 Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:26 PM
 The Cato dudes ain't got nothin on me when it comes to letter writing.
 Here is where I am teasing abunch of dumb Yankees. The whole world
 calls our Newfys dumb. So what does that say of Danny williams the
 Premier? He is a Rhodes Scholar that works for free. Is he dumb or
 evil? I will have to ask the Aspen Dudes have I attend Tommy's little
 hoe down EH?

 Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:38 PM
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2005/03/former_dhs_insp.html#comments
 HMMM no link we will try this way ok?

 Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:40 PM
 I'm very proud to have had such a person as David Amos, help us with
 our fight and the legal work. I will never be able to repay him.Thank
 you David.
 Byron Prior

 Posted by: Byron Prior at August 21, 2005 10:59 PM
































---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 08:49:13 -0300
Subject: IF Don Bowser is truly ethical perhaps he and I should have a
long talk ASAP EH?
To: donbowser@goodgov.ca, kedgwickriver@gmail.com, "david.allgood"
<david.allgood@rbc.com>, "Frank.McKenna"<Frank.McKenna@td.com>,
"john.logan"<john.logan@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>, COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>, oldmaison
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:42:55 -0300
Subject: Ms Diggins I just called my number is (902 800 0369) the
attachments are for real Now you know some of the Bob Kuhn and
everbody else knows
To: voteforkim2014@gmail.com, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
sbartone22@gmail.com, Craig.leonard@gnb.ca, madeleine
<madeleine@berrevoets2014.ca>, "tony.mitra"<tony.mitra@gmail.com>,
thenutman <thenutman@thenuthut.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
support@carp.ca, "dean.buzza"<dean.buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
aedggns@mta.ca, afrancis@nbndp.ca, "Tom.Mann"<Tom.Mann@gnb.ca>,
"jody.carr"<jody.carr@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming"
<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

Ms. Amanda Diggins
C11-8 Wilmot Ct.
Fredericton, NB
E3B 2M8
aedggns@mta.ca, afrancis@nbndp.ca
506-458-5828, 506-261-6306
no website listed

Woolastook

- Fredericton: Wilmot

Lay Member

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 18:32:37 -0300
Subject: RE Two views on Trinty Law School Clearly Bob Kuhn, Clayton
Ruby and your old budd Don Hutchinson think I am joking EH Mr Harper
an petey Baby MacKay?
To: Bob.Kuhn@twu.ca, ruby <ruby@rubyshiller.com>, president@twu.ca,
eflett@unb.ca, ann.coats@twu.ca, asinha@mccarthy.ca,
bmorrison@morrisonpierce.com, mrichard@coxandpalmer.com,
johnelaw@nb.aibn.com, gerrish@nb.ainb.com, "roger.l.brown"
<roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "steve.graham"
<steve.graham@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "rod.knecht"
<rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>, "Leanne.Fitch"
<Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>, "leanne.murray"
<leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, "david.fraser"
<david.fraser@mcinnescooper.com>, frankffrost
<frankffrost@hotmail.com>, The Disinfector
<thedisinfector@hotmail.com>, "Pete.Berndsen"
<Pete.Berndsen@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Geoffrey.McDonald"
<Geoffrey.McDonald@gov.bc.ca>, "shirley.bond.mla"
<shirley.bond.mla@leg.bc.ca>, MediaRelations@theefc.ca,
Ottawa@efc-canada.com, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca>,
"steven.blaney"<steven.blaney@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, glen
<glen@glencanning.com>, Glen Canning <grcanning@me.com>, sunrayzulu
<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>

http://www.cbc.ca/q/blog/2013/10/09/q-debate-should-a-law-school-have-sway-over-student-sex-lives/

http://www.canadianlawyermag.com/legalfeeds/1898/former-mulroney-chief-of-staff-part-of-legal-contingent-on-harper-s-mideast-trip.html?print=1&tmpl=component

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/04/two-views-on-trinty-law-school-one-by.html

http://lawsociety-barreau.nb.ca/en/public/trinity-western-university/

http://www.lawsociety-barreau.nb.ca/files/TWU/Submissions_FINAL.pdf



http://www.evangelicalfellowship.ca/page.aspx?pid=7442

--- On Tue, 4/15/14, Nicole McCann <NMcCann@lawsociety-barreau.nb.ca> wrote:

Thank you for taking the time to provide a written submission with
respect to the Trinity Western University proposed law school program.

Please note that we will post all written submissions on our Website.
Please let us know by April 22, 2014, if you do not wish to have your
submission posted on our Website.

All submissions will be reviewed by Council of the Law Society of New
Brunswick who will meet on Friday, June 27, in Saint Andrews to
determine whether Trinity Western University’s proposed law school
program should be approved for purposes of meeting the academic
qualification requirement for admission to the New Brunswick Bar.

If you have any further questions or concerns please contact our office.


Nicole McCann
Executive Assistant/Adjointe de direction
Law Society of New Brunswick/Barreau du Nouveau-Brunswick
68, rue Avonlea Court
Fredericton NB  E3C 1N8
(506) 451-1476

From: David Amos
Sent: April-05-14 6:25 AM
To: Bob.Kuhn@twu.ca; David Amos; president@twu.ca; eflett@unb.ca;
ann.coats@twu.ca; asinha@mccarthy.ca; bmorrison@morrisonpierce.com;
mrichard@coxandpalmer.com; Marc Richard; Lise Allain;
johnelaw@nb.aibn.com; gerrish@nb.ainb.com
Subject: Re: Attn Bob Kuhn and Ted FlettWe really should talk before
Trinty Law School's dispute the OUTLaws & the NB Law Society in St
Andrews in June

Hey Marc Richard

Law Society of New Brunswick
68 Avonlea Court
Fredericton, New Brunswick
E3C 1N8
(506) 458-8540

and

John B. Malone, Q.C.
President
260 Church Ave.
Sussex, NB E4E 1Z1

P.O. Box 5062
Sussex, NB E3E 5L2
Tel: (506) 433-1993
Fax: (506) 432-1995
johnelaw@nb.aibn.com


Remember mean old me? You dudes invited my opinion about your latest
Gay nonsense I heard on CBC correct? Never mind the Hard Copy of many
documents I sent 12 years ago that you acknowleged not once but TWICE
(Who sent you the second set?) did you lawyers even bother to read one
of my emails over the years since. DUHHH? My first lawsuit in the USA
applies directly to what you were bitching about today on CBC,

As the Law Society tries to make a rule to exclude students from
Trinity from practicing Law for a fee in New Brunswick perhaps you
dudes should recall your actions against First Canadain Title and your
support of First Canadain Title against my family and I. EH?

These are your words and that of Bob Kuhn

“And we don't feel those graduates would be fully equipped to
represent the interests of New Brunswickers.”

Trinity Western President Bob Kuhn says that in itself is discrimination.

 Earlier this month, he argued before the Nova Scotia Barristers'
Society that freedom of religion should apply to lawyers too.

"It's prejudicial. It's the definition of prejudice.” says Kuhn.
“There's no indication that they’ll do anything other than represent
themselves in the best professional and ethical fashion possible.”

The Law Society of New Brunswick has invited Trinity Western to make
its case at a meeting in St. Andrews in June.

“It’s a question of balance between the freedom of religion and the
freedom of expression,” says Marc Richard, executive director of the
NB Law Society.

The Law Society of New Brunswick is inviting the public to comment on
their website until the end of this month".

Correct?

Now I will address Mr Kuhn

FYI Marc Richard and his cohorts know that one particular lawsuit of
mine in 2002 was all about Freedom of Religion and lawyers. Some
documents pertaining to it can be found around page 100 of this old
pdf file. Trust that the New Brunswick Law Society etc has had hard
copy of this file and a great deal more since 2004.

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf

I have received many answers since then but the ones I got from the
Governor General and New Brunswick's Arroney General 10 years ago were
more than enough. Thos were within the email I sent you before this
one. Here they are again

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf

However Mr Kuhn and I were not born yesterday. We both should know by
now that ethical politicians, cops, lawyers and priests etc are either
myths or very rare birds indeed. In my humble opinion Justice takes
time and in the end it is usually served on cold plates by the ghosts
of laymen. The wheels of Justice do turn slowly through no fault of
its own. The delay tactics of greedy questionable professionals who
practice law for a fee as they try hard to protect the reputation of
fellow members of the Bar are the true problem with the Justice
System. The gang called the Members of the Bar always. try hard to
stop a person from speaking for themselves in the interests of swift
justice and they never practice the spirit of full disclosure never
minf upholding the law. I made it my business to prove it.

Mr Kuhn I must say proffessing about the law and ethics to students is
clean work but I also noticed that you practiced law as well.  Thus
you should understand my doubts about you. Do you even recall my last
email?

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369


BTW I loved it whe First Canadian Title used Barry Morrison beat the
Law Society at their own wicked game. It is way past high time for me
to sue the CROWN, First Canadian, the Law Society and of course all
the lawyers who assisted in the cover up of my concerns about the
unethical actions of First Canadain and the NB Law Society etc against
my family and I.

http://www.lawyersweekly.ca/index.php?section=article&articleid=927

https://www.gnb.ca/cour/03COA1/Decisions/2009/May2009/LawSocietyvFCTInsuranceCompany-160-07-CA-May8.pdf

http://caselaw.canada.globe24h.com/0/0/new-brunswick/court-of-queen-s-bench-of-new-brunswick/2007/10/19/fct-insurance-company-first-canadian-title-company-limited-v-law-society-of-new-brunswick-2007-nbqb-347.shtml

N.B. Law Society questions anti-gay law program
Trinity Western University asks students and faculty to sign
heterosexual covenant.
The Law Society of New Brunswick is asking whether students from
Trinity Western in Langley B.C., a private university, should be
admitted to the New Brunswick Bar.
Trinity Western is moving ahead with a law program where it will ask
its students to uphold biblical values.


Trinity Western will make its case at a meeting in St. Andrews in June. (CBC)

The school calls itself an evangelical Christian community and asks
students and faculty to sign a covenant promising to abstain from sex
outside a heterosexual marriage.
UNB's society of gay law students says Trinity graduates should not be
welcomed in New Brunswick.

“To gain a legal education in a setting where you're learning about
fundamental values of Canadian society as reflected through the legal
system, without appreciating the equality of gay and lesbian people in
Canada, would be a huge shortcoming,” says Ted Flett,chair of OUTLaw
NB.

“And we don't feel those graduates would be fully equipped to
represent the interests of New Brunswickers.”

Trinity Western President Bob Kuhn says that in itself is discrimination.

 Earlier this month, he argued before the Nova Scotia Barristers'
Society that freedom of religion should apply to lawyers too.

"It's prejudicial. It's the definition of prejudice.” says Kuhn.
“There's no indication that they’ll do anything other than represent
themselves in the best professional and ethical fashion possible.”

The Law Society of New Brunswick has invited Trinity Western to make
its case at a meeting in St. Andrews in June.

“It’s a question of balance between the freedom of religion and the
freedom of expression,” says Marc Richard, executive director of the
NB Law Society.

The Law Society of New Brunswick is inviting the public to comment on
their website until the end of this month.

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2014/02/the-great-faggot-and-lesbo-wars.html

Wednesday, February 5, 2014
The Great Faggot and Lesbo Wars
I was a child in the Sixties. I remember the sexual revolution, and
the liberating effect on humanity of the pill. How that freed and
liberated women in so many ways. But above all and I say this sort of
tongue in cheek, it gave us all the God given human right to "fuck our
brains out," with impunity.

Then the AIDS pandemic arrived and the whole of Christendom blamed the
"whirlwind" on the "faggots" fucking and "niggers fucking monkeys" in
Africa, Christendom and the "born agains" blamed the pandemic,  on the
seeds of  depravity sown by  harlots, "secular humanists" and
promiscuity of "patient zero."  just ask Jerry Falwell, Oral Roberts,
Jim and Tammy Faye Baker and the rest of the full of integrity
religious nut crowd.

The "whirlwind" has abated, well sort of. White faggots in the
"developed world are not dying so much. But the "nigger" faggots in
Africa, and South America are, but alas no one gives a shit about
these faggots. Oh yeah, "gimme that ole time religion," every time!
Calvinism at its best!

But the Faggots, Lesbos and assorted varieties of nature's mistakes
are not less hypocritical than the "I love Jesus and the sinner
crowd."  Our so called LGBTQ social activists are very much less
concerned about the death rates of faggots in the Third World , as
they are the political and societal  disgust of LGBTQ "people" in the
vast majority of the world. The laws concerning homosexuality in
Russia, Uganda, China, Nigeria, Iran, Iraq ad infinitum, are not an
affront to the "human rights" views in these countries and societies,
but an accurate reflection of them.

Our faggot "civil society" cares more about politics and image, than
the right of Third World faggots to live. The right to life means
little to the LGBTQ community if it isn't their own lives at risk.


Homosexuality is NOT a "human right." To be "accepted" in society as a
homosexual or deviant in most of the nation-states on the planet, is
NOT any sort of inherent right. Just because it has some legality here
in Canada does NOT make it legal, acceptable or a right in another
sovereign society and or state. "Here endth the lesson," children!

The faggot and deviant crowd are continuing to bully, insult, coerce
decent people who simply don't want anything to with their "sexuality"
or them. In the name of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
 Religious groups, denominations, parishes, individual congregations,
and Christian institutions of education are targeted for abuse, by the
"brown bung hole crowd."

Trinity Western University is  a well respected educational
institution run or administered by a religious denomination. Much Like
Brigham University, Notre Dame, Maryknoll, and hundreds if not
thousands of universities in North America. They have as I understand
already received authorities from the  appropriate groups to  start a
Law School. But alas the faggot special interest groups are incensed
about the idea of Trinity Western University having a law school.
Trinity Western University akin to Brigham Young University. Liberty
Baptist College and many others require their students to adhere to a
"code of Christian conduct" whilst a student. Faggots and their
special interest organizations are furious that they are being asked
to behave themselves, not be faggots, and keep the peckers in their
pants, whilst they are students at Trinity Western College.

The faggots are whining, bitching, complaining that their inherent,
God given "right to fuck" has been removed from them. If the faggots
who seem so desirous of attending Trinity Western, and can't control
themselves whilst there, the solution seems simple enough....attend
another law school.

This appears to be another "engagement" in the faggot's battle upon
decent, normal, humans, and to bully them into accepting faggots for
what they are. Faggots and the LGBTQ "community" have long been at war
with Christians, to make them stop viewing or believing homosexuality
is a sin. Faggots and their lesbian cousins believe in the freedom of
religious faith, just as long as they approve of that faith.

Now faggots are trying to argue that being a Christian adhering to a
Christian code of conduct renders one incapable of  representing or
acting in behalf of faggots or other "different" groups legally.

Someone ought remind the forces of cock sucking and  effeteness of the
old Roman saw...."We have met the enemy and they are, us!
Posted by Seren at 4:28 AM


http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2014/02/liars-cheats-and-faggots-whining-about.html

Monday, February 10, 2014
Liars. Cheats and Faggots Whining About Law School at TWU
If you have a thousand lawyers buried up to their necks in sand, what
do you have? A serious shortage of sand.


Trinity Western University in BC is Christian University that is
opening a law school. Church run Universities such as Notre Dame
University, and Brigham Young University are just two examples of
church affiliated institutions that abhor homosexuality and still
operate with hundreds of others, law schools.

Many Christian or religious post secondary institutions, require
students sign a pledge to adhere to a prescribed code of conduct. A
big item on the list of no no's being, no fucky fucky outside the
bounds of matrimony. This applies to all students heterosexual or
normal, and nature's anomalies. Trinity Western University is one such
school. Much to the chagrin of  fags and dykes everywhere in Canada
Trinity Western University has an undisputed record and tradition of
academic excellence. The fags that have attended there claim to have
acquired a excellent education.

Canada's faggot "community" is up in arms about a code of conduct that
all students are expected to adhere to is "discriminatory of dykes and
faggots" because it interferes with these animals "God given right of
promiscuity," or rather the animals perceive that it does.

So our faggot and dyke "community" is doing to Trinity Western  what
they castigate the Russians for doing to the LGBTQ "community" in
Russia, bullying it, and discriminating against Christians. Now that's
pretty gay. Well I guess that is "one way to win friends, influence
people, and gain acceptance within society....or not.

The LBGTQ "community" prevaricate and propagandize the numbers of
nature's little anomalies in the world. Most faggot animals claim
that 10 % of the planet are gay or Queer. Most reputable scholars put
the number betwixt 4 % or 5%. Universities and post grad programmes
are by definition "discriminatory." The stupid, lazy, weak of mind ,
the analytical, unread, without integrity and or the unaccomplished,
need not apply. That alone excludes more people on the planet, than
there are fags and dykes.

No amount of trickery, propaganda, prevarication or criminal behavior
will make more people or any people to accept these animals as real
Canadians.
Posted by Seren at 11:33 PM

1 comment:
 Patrick Doran said...
Holy fuck. My birthday is this Saturday as well!

February 13, 2014 at 9:37 PM

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2014/04/faggot-bastards-lose-trinity-western.html

Saturday, April 12, 2014
Faggot bastards lose. Trinity Western University wins!
There are literally scores of private religious universities in North
America. Liberty Baptist, Brigham Young University, not to mention the
scores of Jesuit run institutions. And in Canada Trinity Western
University in BC. Trinity Western University has an outstanding
academic standing and tradition or longstanding parade of great
graduates. An education obtained at Trinity Western University is an
excellent, and well regarded one.

Most of, if not all the Evangelical run schools require students to
sign a "covenant of conduct" proscribing sex with dogs, cats, gay sex,
premarital sex, sex with married women, unmarried women, no  fun with
Trannies, it is your basic "keep it in your pants agreement while
you're here covenant. This sort of thing is very common in religious
education institutions throughout North America. There is absolutely
nothing new about them, and these post secondary institutions thrive
not in spite of these practices, but because of them.

The Faggot pedophiles, and the rest of the LGBTQ "community" is and
was outraged. When Trinity Western University applied to open a Law
School some months ago. The Faggots and the rest of nature's anomalies
whine and have whined that the covenant "discriminates on the basis of
sexual orientation and questions how the law school would educate
students about discrimination and equality rights ."

Obviously this was merely another asinine attempt by the LGBTQ
"community" to politically pillory and illegally attack another
religious institution for its moral and religious integrity. Trinity
Western University is not telling Faggots not to fuck each other in
the ass. But everyone to more or less keep it in their pants or
panties.

Now our Christian Brothers at Trinity Western University had already
cleared two major hurdles to open a Faculty of Law  with the approvals
of the Federation of Law Societies of Canada. And the BC Ministry of
Advanced Education. Provincial Law Societies have final say on whether
to recognize a Law School as an approved Faculty of Law.

Now our Faggot and LGBTQ sub-human friends are even more "outraged"
because yesterday the Law Society of BC in a vote of 20 to 6  approved
Trinity Western University's new Faculty of Law.

The other Provincial Law Societies must also approve it, if future TWU
Faculty of Law graduates wish to practice in the rest of Canada. There
is a schedule of upcoming votes most notably the Ontario Law Society
on April 24.

It is more than apparent TWU has won the war with the Faggots. The
decision taken by the British Columbia Law Society referenced a recent
Supreme Court of Canada decision when the Queers and animals in the BC
College of Teachers tried to prevent TWU accreditation over that same
clause. The SCOC opined in favour of Trinity Western University noting
"the proper place to draw the line, is generally between belief and
conduct." It is a fundamental right to assemble, and freely, and
openly practice religious beliefs. This the Law Societies and the SCOC
have recognized here in this instance, and other cases.

Here is another case of Faggot and LGBTQ pigs trying "run their shitty
rag up the pole"  and deny real, and normal Canadians their rights.

So to our little friend, the "gender creative" Tony Luong  another Law
School is a good thing right! Too bad YOU will never have intellectual
capacity to get into a Law School anywhere
Posted by Seren at 2:08 PM

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 18:36:24 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Attn US Attorney B. Todd Jones I am on the phone to a
person in your office who handles criminal matters after hours
To: Bob.Kuhn@twu.ca, ruby <ruby@rubyshiller.com>, president@twu.ca,
eflett@unb.ca, ann.coats@twu.ca, asinha@mccarthy.ca,
bmorrison@morrisonpierce.com, mrichard@coxandpalmer.com,
johnelaw@nb.aibn.com, gerrish@nb.ainb.com, "roger.l.brown"
<roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "steve.graham"
<steve.graham@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "rod.knecht"
<rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>, "Leanne.Fitch"
<Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>, "leanne.murray"
<leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, "david.fraser"
<david.fraser@mcinnescooper.com>, frankffrost
<frankffrost@hotmail.com>, The Disinfector
<thedisinfector@hotmail.com>, "Pete.Berndsen"
<Pete.Berndsen@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Geoffrey.McDonald"
<Geoffrey.McDonald@gov.bc.ca>, "shirley.bond.mla"
<shirley.bond.mla@leg.bc.ca>, MediaRelations@theefc.ca,
Ottawa@efc-canada.com, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca>,
"steven.blaney"<steven.blaney@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:10:55 -0300
Subject: Attn US Attorney B. Todd Jones I am on the phone to a person
in your office who handles criminal matters after hours
To: b.todd.jones@usdoj.gov, lanny.breuer@usdoj.gov,
david.kris@usdoj.gov, "marie-claude.blais"
<marie-claude.blais@gnb.ca>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, andremurraynow
<andremurraynow@gmail.com>, "bernadine.chapman"
<bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "john.warr"
<john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "John.Williamson"
<John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, "brian.t.macdonald"
<brian.t.macdonald@gnb.ca>, "tom.smith"<tom.smith@ci.stpaul.mn.us>,
jcarney <jcarney@carneybassil.com>, "Brian.Kelly"
<Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>,
"jason.kenney.c1"<jason.kenney.c1@parl.gc.ca>, ruby
<ruby@rubyshiller.com>, rosent@math.toronto.edu, creeclayton77
<creeclayton77@gmail.com>, ppalmater <ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca>,
jrebick <jrebick@politics.ryerson.ca>
Cc: David Amos <myson333@yahoo.com>, premier <premier@gov.bc.ca>,
gplant <gplant@heenan.ca>, News10@newswithviews.com

I must ask the obvious question do you snobby Yankee lawyers have any
idea who wrote the Declaration of Human Rights for the UN and where he
hailed from. I will give you a clue the same Riding I ran in in 2004
after your former bosses tried to send me to Cuba after I beat fair
and square un US District Mikey Sullivan another US Attorney who acted
as the boss of the ATF until your lates boss Mr Obama got sworn in

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/07/attn-hey-chief-tom-smith-i-support-mr.html

http://my.firedoglake.com/youmayberight/tag/universal-declaration-of-human-rights/

http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/meetattorney.html

B. Todd Jones
President Barack Obama formally nominated B. Todd Jones for the
position of United States Attorney for the District of Minnesota on
June 4, 2009, and he was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on August 7,
2009. United States Attorneys serve as the nation's principal
litigators under the direction of the Attorney General, and each is
the chief federal law enforcement officer of the United States within
his or her particular jurisdiction. In September of 2011, Attorney
General Eric Holder appointed Jones to serve as the Acting Director
for the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Prior to becoming U.S. Attorney, Jones was a partner with a major
national law firm in Minneapolis, where his practice focused on
complex business litigation. He has represented a number of
organizations and individuals in both criminal and civil regulatory
matters. Jones is a fellow of the American College of Trial Lawyers.
He also has served as special counsel to various boards of directors
of public and privately held companies. In that capacity, he has led
internal investigations and provided guidance on compliance and
governance issues.

This is the second time Jones has served as United States Attorney.
President Clinton appointed him to the position in 1998 and he served
in that capacity until January 2001. Jones also has served as an
Assistant U.S. Attorney in the District of Minnesota. During his
initial tenure as a federal prosecutor, Jones conducted grand jury
investigations and was the lead trial lawyer in a number of federal
prosecutions involving drug trafficking, financial fraud, firearms,
and violent crime.

Jones received his Juris Doctor from the University of Minnesota Law
School in 1983. Following admission to the Minnesota bar, he went on
active duty in the United States Marine Corps, where he served as both
a trial defense counsel and prosecutor in a number of courts martial
proceedings. In 1989, he and his family returned to Minnesota, where
he developed a civil litigation practice encompassing a wide variety
of legal matters, ranging from products liability defense and
insurance coverage disputes to environmental and labor and employment
controversies in both a private and public sector setting.


http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/contact.html

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:26:27 -0300
Subject: I am on the phone to a person in your office who handles
criminal matters after hours
To: jeanne.cooney@usdoj.gov, "bob.paulson"
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Mackay.P"<Mackay.P@forces.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: campaign <campaign@rickperry.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:12:44 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Say hello to the "Gov" Ricky Baby Perry for me Howie You
SOUTHERN Yankee bastards hang to far many innocent people to suit mean
old me
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for your message. This email address is not checked
frequently. If your message is urgent and you need to speak with
someone at the campaign, please call our offices at 512-478-3276.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:12:32 -0300
Subject: Say hello to the "Gov" Ricky Baby Perry for me Howie You
SOUTHERN Yankee bastards hang to far many innocent people to suit mean
old me
To: paul.paulos@ci.stpaul.mn.us, howie.padilla@ci.stpaul.mn.us,
campaign@rickperry.org
Cc: DAvid R Amos <davidr_amos@yahoo.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"
<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, newstips <newstips@cnn.com>

Texans for Rick Perry
815-A Brazos Street, PMB 217
Austin, TX 78701

Phone:

512-478-3276


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http://o.canada.com/2013/07/17/mike-allen-mla-prostitution/

Howie Padilla
Public Information Coordinator

Office: 651-266-5735

 Before joining the Saint Paul Police Department as Public Information
Coordinator for in August of 2011, he spent four years serving in
communications roles at Saint Paul Public Schools. He also spent seven
years reporting on Public Safety and Justice issues at the Star
Tribune following graduation from the University of North Dakota where
he majored in Communications.


Sgt. Paul Paulos
Public Information Officer
Office: 651-266-5639




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:40:29 -0300
Subject: Mr Campbell mett Mr Bauer say hello to Mr Obama lawyer and
our Attorney general Mr Mackay for me will ya?
To: paul.williams@ci.stpaul.mn.us, joe.campbell@ci.stpaul.mn.us,
RBauer <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <myson333@yahoo.com>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>,
highwood <highwood@assembly.ab.ca>, "fortmcmurray.woodbuffalo"
<fortmcmurray.woodbuffalo@assembly.ab.ca>

Just so ya my Scottish ancestors told us to NEVER trust a poltician
named Campbell

Paul Williams
Mayor's Staff
Title: Deputy Mayor
Phone: (651) 266-8569



Joe Campbell
Mayor's Staff
Title: Director of Communications
Phone: (651) 266-8518

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 01:19:16 -0300
Subject: Attn Hey Chief Tom Smith I support Mr Allen merely because he
was open and honest about a mistake CTV, Sun Media and the Wildrose
Wackos nor anyone else has the right to critize you
To: tom.smith@ci.stpaul.mn.us,
fortmcmurray.woodbuffalo@assembly.ab.ca, maxime.bernier.c1@parl.gc.ca,
"ezra.levant@sunmedia.ca"<ezra.levant@sunmedia.ca>, "greg.weston"
<greg.weston@cbc.ca>, mikeduffy <mikeduffy@sen.parl.gc.ca>, pm
<pm@pm.gc.ca>, MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, "justin.trudeau.a1"
<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>,
"bernadine.chapman"<bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Dale.McGowan"
<Dale.McGowan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bob.paulson"
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, airdrie <airdrie@assembly.ab.ca>,
highwood <highwood@assembly.ab.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/ft-mcmurray-wood-buffalo-mla-to-reflect-on-political-future-amid-calls-for-him-to-step-down-1.1370529

http://www.stpaul.gov/directory.aspx

http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/abt/wwa/min-eng.aspx

http://www.assembly.ab.ca/net/index.aspx?p=mla_contact&rnumber=59&leg=28

Hey Mr Allen

Constituency Office
10020 Franklin Avenue, Suite 207
Fort McMurray, AB
Canada T9H 2K6
Phone: (780) 790-6014
Fax: (780) 791-3683
fortmcmurray.woodbuffalo@assembly.ab.ca

Hell many of the smiling bastards whom you thought were your friends have
been willingly assisting in the coverup of Public Corruption, Bank Fraud,
Tax Fraud, Securities Fraud, False Imprisonnment, Sexual Harrassment,
Pedophilia, Death Threats and MURDER for Years. Scroll through this email to
see some of the proof of my allegations. In a nutshell the greedy bastards
care about nothing but their own well being and of course their reputations.
Whearas they are trashing your reputation don't quit fight back and do your
best to remain true to your words as stated today.

In my humble opinion to save your job, stop a criminal record being created
and to make the feeding frenzy of the media and your political enemies stop
do something very simple and ethical. Just Press print on th pdf files
hereto attached and put them awy for safe keeping somewhere then
forward this email in its
entirety to the sneaky Yankee cops in St Paul who entrapped you and what the
Hell this is about and who the hell I am and the faint hearted chickenshits
will drop the charges against you like a hot potato and the Wildrose and
their very corrupt media butt buddies will clam up in a heartbeat.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

P.S. In return asaethical Independent politcian I hope you would do me a
favour and ask the RCMP and Premeier Redford why they supported the constant
attacks on my family and I out of Alberta by these two Wacko Fatsos in
particular since 2007

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ355TBYA10

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:47:59 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Instead of wading through water and stealing people's
possessions why don't the Corrupt Cops in Alberta act ethically and
finally arrest some PERVERTS?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

What would a pedophile like you know about ethics?

On 6/29/13, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/06/28/pol-pmo-guns-alberta.html

> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:32:04 -0300
> Subject: Instead of wading through water and stealing people's
> possessions why don't the Corrupt Cops in Alberta act ethically and
> finalyy arrest some PERVERTS?
> To: oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, sunrayzulu <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>,
> "rod.knecht"<rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>, "Leanne.Fitch"
> <Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>, "leanne.murray"
> <leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, "Dale.McGowan"
> <Dale.McGowan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, deanr0032 <deanr0032@hotmail.com>,
> premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "Ken.Zielke"
> <Ken.Zielke@gov.ab.ca>, "BARRY.SHAW"<BARRY.SHAW@forces.gc.ca>,
> maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>, eps
> <eps@edmontonpolice.ca>, "danny.copp"<danny.copp@fredericton.ca>,
> jwambolt <jwambolt@nbnet.nb.ca>, sallybrooks25
> <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>, evelyngreene <evelyngreene@live.ca>,
> andremurraynow <andremurraynow@gmail.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>,
> markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>, acampbell
> <acampbell@ctv.ca>, xchief <xchief@bell.blackberry.net>,
> "Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, jacques boucher
> <jacques.boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "mckeen.randy"
> <mckeen.randy@gmail.com>, jb <jb@sierraclub.ca>, gretchenf
> <gretchenf@sierraclub.ca>, agiles <agiles@canadians.org>, mhayes
> <mhayes@stu.ca>, airdrie <airdrie@assembly.ab.ca>, highwood
> <highwood@assembly.ab.ca>, "bob.paulson"<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, toewsv1
> <toewsv1@parl.gc.ca>, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>, ppalmater
> <ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca>, jrebick
> <jrebick@politics.ryerson.ca>, Zach Ruiter <zruiter@gmail.com>,
> grenouf <grenouf@genuinewitty.com>, xtofury <xtofury@gmail.com>, josh
> steffler <canuckfanjosh@yahoo.com>, josh <josh@bccla.org>,
> "Kevin.leahy"<Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "kevin.violot"
> <kevin.violot@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "john.warr"<john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> "John.Williamson"<John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/06/attn-chief-hanson-in-calgary-i-see-that.html
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/06/it-has-been-over-four-years-and-still.html
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:07:09 -0300
> Subject: Attn Chief Hanson in Calgary I see that your sick client Eddy
> Acthem and his perverted butt buddies Dean Roger Ray in Sylvan Lake Mr
> Baconfat in Edmonton are still cyber stalking people EH?
> To: pol7163 <pol7163@calgarypolice.ca>, eachtem <eachtem@hotmail.com>,
> police <police@fredericton.ca>, police <police@edmundston.ca>,
> policeadmin <policeadmin@amherst.ca>, police <police@halifax.ca>,
> "police. chief"<police.chief@town.woodstock.nb.ca>,
> PoliceCommission-Commissiondepolice
> <PoliceCommission-Commissiondepolice@gnb.ca>, nbpc <nbpc@gnb.ca>, pm
> <pm@pm.gc.ca>, mayor <mayor@cityofboston.gov>, "stephen.mandel"
> <stephen.mandel@edmonton.ca>, "Dale.McGowan"
> <Dale.McGowan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Randy.McGinnis"
> <Randy.McGinnis@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, deanr0032
> <deanr0032@hotmail.com>, "Gary.Rhodes"<Gary.Rhodes@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> "Michelle.Boutin"<Michelle.Boutin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, ssamson
> <ssamson@sylvanlake.ca>
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/
>
> https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=D_OGo4fsPsw
>
> Give back flood victims' guns, Harper's office tells RCMP
> RCMP took guns out of homes in flooded High River, Alta.
>
> By Meagan Fitzpatrick, CBC News Posted: Jun 28, 2013 12:49 PM ET
>
>
> Harper's office issued a statement Friday morning in quick reaction to
> the news that the RCMP had taken some firearms that they said weren't
> stored properly in empty homes.
>
> "If any firearms were taken, we expect they will be returned to their
> owners as soon as possible," the statement said. "We believe the RCMP
> should focus on more important tasks such as protecting lives and
> private property."
>
> "We are expressing our view," a spokesman for Harper, Carl Vallee,
> said in an email when asked for comment about the statement.
>
> The RCMP would not comment on the PMO's suggestions, and a spokesman
> for the High River detachment said the RCMP were acting in the
> interest of public safety.
>
> "When RCMP officers were going door-to-door searching each residence
> for potential victims, we did come across a couple of residences where
> there were some firearms that were left insecure," Cpl. Darrin
> Turnbull told CBC News in an interview.
>
> "In those situations, when they were out in plain view and they were
> not properly secured and stored, those firearms were taken by the RCMP
> member and safely secured in the High River detachment."
>
> Search was for victims, not guns
> Turnbull said once people are allowed back in their homes, they can
> pick up their guns, which have been tagged with information so they
> will be returned to the proper owner. He didn't know exactly how many
> firearms had been collected and emphasized that officers were not
> specifically searching for guns or going out of their way to find
> them.
>
> "The RCMP were not searching houses looking for firearms. The RCMP
> were going into homes looking for victims. If while we were in that
> home looking for victims there was an unsecured firearm that was out
> in the open, we had to take that firearm to make sure it was safe."
>
> At a press conference Friday in High River held by provincial and
> municipal officials, RCMP Insp. Gerrett Woolsey told reporters several
> hundred guns had been seized as officers inspected every home they
> could enter over a period of several days.
>
> "It's no different than Slave Lake, to seize firearms or to secure
> firearms that are in plain view," Garrett said, referring to the
> Alberta community swept by fire in 2011.
>
> Garrett said it appeared that people in High River took their firearms
> out of storage with the intention of removing them or moving them to
> higher ground, but then left them behind as they fled their homes. He
> added that in "the unlikely event" RCMP found an illegal gun, the
> public prosecutor would be informed, but "in the vast majority of
> cases — I hope in all the cases — we are going to return these
> firearms to their owners as soon as possible."
>
> On Thursday, Alberta's Minister of Justice Jonathan Denis wrote to
> Commissioner Dale McGowan of RCMP K Division In Edmonton, asking for
> confirmation that the firearms had not been confiscated, but merely
> secured, and how firearm owners would be informed about how to
> retrieve their property.
>
> Denis also asked what process would be in place if proof of ownership
> of the firearm had been destroyed in the flooding. He ended the letter
> saying, "I thank you and the RCMP for their exceptional service at
> this time of crisis in southern Alberta."
>
> Premier defends RCMP
> Alberta Premier Alison Redford defended the RCMP and said this
> shouldn't be the focus of attention.
>
> "There is no suggestion that people will not be able to have their
> guns back again, and I really hope that we can focus on more important
> matters at hand, like getting 12,000 people back into High River than
> continue to circulate this story," she said. She wouldn't comment on
> the PMO's statement.
>
> The Canadian Shooting Sports Association doesn't agree with the RCMP's
> position that it was acting in the interest of public safety and said
> the RCMP had "breached and sullied their contract with the public to
> serve and protect."
>
> "This act of aggression is further proof that the RCMP have a
> not-so-hidden agenda to take guns away from responsible gun owners,"
> Tony Bernardo, head of the group, said in a release.
>
> Bernardo said the RCMP overstepped their mandate and he's happy
> Harper's office has got involved in the matter.
>
> "We are advised that the Prime Minister's Office will examine whether
> the rights of Canadians have been ignored by the police. I am
> confident that the federal government will deal swiftly with those who
> have portrayed Canada as a police state in the eyes of the of the
> world."
>
> The RCMP said in a statement issued Friday that officers had no way of
> knowing that firearms left unattended would be secure.
>
> "The last thing any gun owner wants is to have their guns fall into
> the wrong hands. Residents of High River can be assured that firearms
> now in possession of the RCMP are in safe hands, and will be returned
> to them as soon as is practically possible," said assistant
> commissioner Marianne Ryan, criminal operations, K Division RCMP. "Gun
> owners will also be provided the option of having the RCMP keep the
> guns until they are able to store them safely."
>


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: <boston@ic.fbi.gov>; <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>; "Kevin.leahy"
<Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; <Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov>;
<us.marshals@usdoj.gov>; <Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov>; "jcarney"
<jcarney@carneybassil.com>; "bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net "Dale.McGowan""
<Dale.McGowan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; "Gary.Rhodes"<Gary.Rhodes@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>;
"Michelle.Boutin"<Michelle.Boutin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; "rod.knecht"
<rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>; "oldmaison"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>; "andre"
<andre@jafaust.com>; "Leanne.Fitch"<Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>;
"leanne.murray"<leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>; "premier"
<premier@gov.ab.ca>; "premier"<premier@gnb.ca>; "deanr0032"
<deanr0032@hotmail.com>; "sunrayzulu"<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Cc: "birgittaj"<birgittaj@althingi.is>; "justmin"<justmin@gov.ns.ca>;
<glick@google.com>; <wrozeluk@google.com>; <rmordenassoc@rogers.com>;
<DDrummond@google.com>; "oig"<oig@sec.gov>; "OIG"<OIG@ftc.gov>;
<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; "steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>;
"mikeduffy"<mikeduffy@sen.parl.gc.ca>; "bob.paulson"
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; "justin.trudeau.a1"
<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>; "pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:00 AM
Subject: I repeat Tell them yourself Mr Baconfat anyone can see that I
already introduced you to Special Agent Greg Comcowich of the FBI in
Beantown (617) 223-6110 and the bosss of the US Marshalls in DC


http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/07/well-only-people-ol-whitey-bulger-has.html

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:51:50 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Oh My My Methinks I will call the US Marshalls in
Beantown again they shoulf be pleased to hear the latest scoop about
ol Whitey Bulger EH Mr Carney Mr Kelly and Richard DesLauriers,
Special Agent in Charge of the FBI?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Oh my...what shite. You call the fucked up amerkans, and they too will
hang up on you.

You can go back to "hardball politicking" with e mails to David
Cameron, and the "snobby banksters"

LOL LOL LO you pathetic specimen.

That dose of the clap your daughter and  wife have.....I gave it to
them. What a pair of "dirties" they are


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:40:56 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Whitey Bulger Somebody should talk to Sgt Gary Rhodes of
the RCMP about their mindless shills ASAP EH Richard DesLauriers,
Special Agent in Charge of the FBI?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Hey Fuck Face! So it has been years of you whining to the FBI, the
NSA, the  Royal Canadian Army Provost Corps, the RCMP, the Premier of
Alberta, the Deputy Premier of Alberta, the Prime Minister of Canada,
The Edmonton Police Service, yada, yada yada. And guess what? They all
ignored you, and continue to ignore you.

You threatened to call my wife, you have not, can not, and are full of
bovine fecal matter.

You are a strawman, a cunt, your kids are cunts.

I still blog about you and Laura the butt everyday, and YOU haven't
been able to do anything about, or ever will.

Shalom numbnuts!


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:40:56 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Whitey Bulger Somebody should talk to Sgt Gary Rhodes of
the RCMP about their mindless shills ASAP EH Richard DesLauriers,
Special Agent in Charge of the FBI?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Hey Fuck Face! So it has been years of you whining to the FBI, the
NSA, the  Royal Canadian Army Provost Corps, the RCMP, the Premier of
Alberta, the Deputy Premier of Alberta, the Prime Minister of Canada,
The Edmonton Police Service, yada, yada yada. And guess what? They all
ignored you, and continue to ignore you.

You threatened to call my wife, you have not, can not, and are full of
bovine fecal matter.

You are a strawman, a cunt, your kids are cunts.

I still blog about you and Laura the butt everyday, and YOU haven't
been able to do anything about, or ever will.

Shalom numbnuts!

On 7/11/13, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:

Your buddies in the RCMP should not support your Sexual Harassment and
Death threats against Canadian and Yankee citizens particularly when
you publish your obvious crimes in a Yankee Domains owned by the
publicly held corporation known as Google EH David Drummond?

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/33-8523.htm

http://www.google.ca/about/company/facts/management/

The RCMP kills my stuff in order to cover their evil arses its only
fair that they should be sued for supportting your death threats EH PERVERT?


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: "pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>; "premier"<premier@gov.ab.ca>; "premier"
<premier@gnb.ca>; "oldmaison"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>; "sunrayzulu"
<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>; "greg.weston"<greg.weston@cbc.ca>; "greg.Lupson"
<greg.Lupson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; "premier"<premier@gov.sk.ca>; "brad.trost.c1"
<brad.trost.c1@parl.gc.ca>; "RathgB0"<RathgB0@parl.gc.ca>; "Robert.Trevors"
<Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca>; "mclellana"<mclellana@bennettjones.com>;
"mclaughlin.heather"<mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>; "duncaj2"
<duncaj2@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>; "leader"
<leader@greenparty.ca>; "MulcaT"<MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>; "justin.trudeau.a1"
<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 6:53 PM
Subject: You are the pervert not I Mr Baconfat Hell even the fruit of your
loins agrees


As you so often like to declare by their fruits ye shall know them,
Well who could learn more about you from afar than by reading your
words and those of your own son?

Methinks I will call YOUR wife and ask Lori Ink the following

What kind of THING would write this shit and why does she live with it?

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2013_06_01_archive.html


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: "scott.macrae"<scott.macrae@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>;
<alain.g.leblanc@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; "steve.graham"
<steve.graham@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 5:43 PM
Subject: Fwd: ATTN FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers Have you talked to
your buddies Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly about the wiretap tapes YET?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:23:24 -0300
Subject: ATTN FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers Have you talked to
your buddies Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly about the wiretap tapes YET?
To: boston@ic.fbi.gov, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov, "bob.paulson"
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Kevin.leahy"
<Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov,
us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney
<jcarney@carneybassil.com>, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, birgittaj
<birgittaj@althingi.is>, shmurphy@globe.com, Red Ice Creations
<redicecreations@gmail.com>

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through Friday. If you need to speak with a FBI representative at any
time other than during normal business hours, please telephone our
office at (617) 742-5533.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300
Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is
finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap
tapes Sell them on Ebay?
To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov,
Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney <jcarney@carneybassil.com>,
bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, michael wolfheart
<wolfheartlodge@live.com>, jonathan.albano@bingham.com,
shmurphy@globe.com, mvalencia@globe.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, oldmaison
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/05/james-whitey-bulger-jury-selection-process-enters-second-day/KjS80ofyMMM5IkByK74bkK/story.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html

As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask
them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY

What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
cards?

http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006

http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html

http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139

http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143

FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
Senator Arlen Specter
United States Senate
Committee on the Judiciary
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Mr. Specter:

I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
raised in the attached letter.

Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.

I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.

Very truly yours,
Barry A. Bachrach
Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: "Fred.Wyshak"<Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov>; "jcarney"
<jcarney@carneybassil.com>; <Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov>;
<us.marshals@usdoj.gov>
Cc: <edit@thr.com>; "maritime_malaise"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>;
"Wayne.Lang"<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:50 AM
Subject: So Fred Wyshak has Brian Kelly and the rest of the corrupt
Feds practiced the spirit of fill disclosure with Jay Carney??


If so then why didn't Mr Carney return my phone calls last July???

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/01/09/bulger_lawyers_due_in_court_for_update_on_evidence/

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/lawyer_known_as_patron_saint_of_hopeless_cases_is_representing_whitey_bulge/

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0625lawyer_tab_is_in_billys_court_feds_believe_brother_should_shell_out_for_defense

http://articles.boston.com/2011-07-01/news/29726987_1_jay-carney-bulger-brookline-clinics

http://carneybassil.com/team/carney/

Truth is stranger than fiction. Perhaps Ben Affleck and Matt Damon  a
couple of boyz from Beantown who done good will pay attention to mean
old me someday EH?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ben-affleck-matt-damon-whitey-bulger-254994

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

SOMEBODY SHOULD ASK THE CBC AND THE COPS A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.

WHY was Byron Prior and I banned from parliamentry properties while I
running for a seat in parliament in 2004 2 whole YEARS before the
mindless nasty French Bastard Chucky Leblanc was barred in NB and yet
the CBC, the Fat Fred City Finest and  the RCMP still deny anything
ever happened to this very day even though Chucky and his pals have
blogged about it???

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2006/06/20/nb-bloggerbanned20060620.html

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/david-amos-vs-fat-fred-citys-finest.html

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-3.html

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html

Did anybody bother to listen to me explain things to the Police
Commissioners in 2004?

http://archive.org/details/NewBrunswickPoliceCommission

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:56:57 -0300
Subject: Re Yankee Feds Please allow me to be brief with the crooks in
Wikileaks and the Guardian EH Birgitta and Ed Pilkington?
To: "Fred.Wyshak"<Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov>, "john.warr"
<john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, redicecreations@gmail.com, birgittaj
<birgittaj@althingi.is>, Piratar <piratar@pirateparty.is>,
"ed.pilkington"<ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>, janice.smith@cbc.ca,
camilla.inderberg@cbc.ca, "david.akin"<david.akin@sunmedia.ca>,
Alan.Dark@cbc.ca, newsonline <newsonline@bbc.co.uk>, "John.Williamson"
<John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, aih <aih@cbc.ca>,
news-tips <news-tips@nytimes.com>, "bob.paulson"
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Blinn"
<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

"Snowden will go down in history as one of America's most
consequential whistleblowers, alongside Daniel Ellsberg and Bradley
Manning. He is responsible for handing over material from one of the
world's most secretive organisations – the NSA."

----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:04 PM
Subject: Ed Here is your ticket to keep you out of hot water Just send
this to Hugh Grant and he can raise hell for you


Byway of the US FTC the Feds in many countries can never deny that
they did not know the truth long ago

From: Ed Pilkington <ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>
Subject: GUARDIAN
To: myson333@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 11:42 AM


hi

here's my email and my cell number is below

all best

Ed

--
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New York bureau chief
The Guardian
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Cell: 646 704 1264

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THE GUARDIAN MUST REMEMBER ME EH EDDY BABY???

Click on this link

http://50states.ning.com/video/rcmp-sussex-new-brunswick

OR SCROLL DOWN TO ASSURE YOURSELF THAT WIKILEAKS OR THE CROWN CORPS
KNOWN AS THE CBC AND THE RCMP TO NAME ONLY THREE CAN NEVER DENY THAT
THEY DON'T KNOW ALL ABOUT MEAN OLD ME AND MY CONCERNS

HOWCOME FOR 10 YEARS PUBLIC OFFICIALS IN THE USA CANADA ICELAND
ENGLAND AND ALL THE OTHERS WITHIN "COALITION OF THE WILLING"  ETC
IGNORED THE FACT THAT I HAVE HAD MANY YANKEE WIRETAP TAPES THAT COULD
HAVE IMPEACHED GEORGEY BOY BUSH AND HIS COHORTS LONG BEFORE THE
PATRIOT ACT OR THE WAR ON IRAQ BEGAN???



http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html

http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139


FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
Senator Arlen Specter
United States Senate
Committee on the Judiciary
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Mr. Specter:

I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
raised in the attached letter.

Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.

I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.

Very truly yours,
Barry A. Bachrach
Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com

http://joyb.blogspot.ca/2010/11/my-statement-from-nato-parliamentary.html

http://50states.ning.com/video/rcmp-sussex-new-brunswick

http://www.nycga.net/members/davidraymondamos/

> From: David Amos
> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:22:00 -0300
> Subject: i just called from 902 800 0369 (Nova Scotia)
> To: 9.17occupywallstreet@gmail.com
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-...
>
> I am the guy the SEC would not name that is the link to Madoff and
> Putnam Investments
>
> http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hear...
>
> Notice the transcript and webcast of the hearing of the US Senate
> banking Commitee is missing? please notice Eliot Spitzer and the Dates
> around November 20th, 2003 in te following file
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-righ...
>
> From: ”Julian Assange)”
> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:15:46 +0000 (GMT)
> Subject: Al Jazeera on Iceland’s plan for a press safe haven
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> FYI: Al-Jazeera’s take on Iceland’s proposed media safe haven
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbGiPjIE1pE
>
> More info http://immi.is/
>
> Julian Assange
> Editor
> WikiLeaks
> http://wikileaks.org/
>
>
> From: Birgitta Jonsdottir
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 07:14:02 +0000
> Subject: Re: Bon Soir Birgitta according to my records this is the
> first email I ever sent you
> To: David Amos
>
> dear Dave
> i have got your email and will read through the links as soon as i
> find some time
> keep up the good fight in the meantime
>
> thank you for bearing with me
> i am literary drowning in requests to look into all sorts of matters
> and at the same time working 150% work at the parliament and
> the creation of a political movement and being a responsible parent:)
> plus all the matters in relation to immi
>
> with oceans of joy
> birgitta
>
> Better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
>
> Andre Gide
>
> Birgitta Jonsdottir
> Birkimelur 8, 107 Reykjavik, Iceland, tel: 354 692 8884
> http://this.is/birgitta – http://joyb.blogspot.com -
> http://www.facebook.com/birgitta.jonsdottir
>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Henrik Palmgren <redicecreations@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:46:26 +0200
Subject: Re: Oh my my I guess we know the score on you EH?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Oh my. Don't send me your spam. It's not good for anything.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:27:53 -0300
Subject: Re Teddy Baby Olson was on Fox News today yapping about
Presidential enemies list as he represents the crooks in Koch
Industries??? If anyone should know about such things it is Olson
after all he assisted Ashcroft and Bush against me
To: pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, Office@tigta.treas.gov, RBauer@perkinscoie.com,
mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov, "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, ron.klain@revolution.com,
dboies@bsfllp.com, tolson@gibsondunn.com, bginsberg@pattonboggs.com,
"ed.pilkington"<ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>, news
<news@thetelegraph.com.au>, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com, gregory.craig@skadden.com,
Patrick.Fitzgerald@skadden.com

Hey

As Harper sits and bullshits his cohorts in the Council of Foreign
Relations in the Big Apple today I bet he was listening to what was
happening with Obama and the IRS and Holder and his DOJ minions
in Washington.

Notice the Inspector General of the IRS Dudes within this old file?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9092510/Chicago

Everybody and his dog knows Harper knew about my battles with the US
Treasury and Justice Depts way back when he was the boss of the
opposition in Canada's Parliament. Two simple files easily found on
the Internet cannot be argued.

Notice how old the letter and Form 211 are?

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/5-years-waiting-on-bank-fraud-payout.html

Here the Inspector Generals calling me 7 years ago?

http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Office of Chief Counsel, Treasury.
Inspector General for Tax Administration, (202) 622-4068.

When Teddy bitches about polticians using the IRS to attack their
enemies because he knows it true because he helped Bush the IRS
against me when Obama was just a State Senator .

The proof was when I sent him the documents that came along with the letter
found on page 13 of this old file Teddy Baby Olson quit as Solicitor
General.

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf

Harper and every body else knows It was no coincidence that I sent the
lawyers Olson as Solicitior General, Ferguson as the co chair of the
Federal  Reserve Bank, and J Strom Thurmond Jr the youngest US
Attorney the same pile of documents on April Fools Day 2004.

The sad but terrible truth is that legions of cops, lawyers polticians
and bureaucrats in Canada and the USA knew about the US Secret Service
 coming to my home after dark on April Fools Day 2003 bearing false
allegations of a presidential threat and threatening to use their
implied right to use exta ordinary rendition against me as a non
citizen less than two weeks after the needless War in Iraq began and
no WMD were ever found.

You can bet dimes to dollars i called some Yankee Inspector Generals
(starting with 202 622 4068) and reminded them that I am still alive
and kicking and reminding the world of their malicious incompetence

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

PS Below you can review some emails I sent you and your Yankee cohorts
such asTeddy Baby Olson before Obama was reelected EH Harper? In truth
I would rather settle in confidence with Obama then sue the Hell out
of the CROWN and the Holy See Trust that the evil old Judge Bastarache
has known why for a very long time.


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: "Rob Talach"<rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why

The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
a lot to you

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400
Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau What say you NOW
Bernadine Chapman??
To: Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, phil.giles@statcan.ca,
maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca,
bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca,
denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca, webo
<webo@xplornet.com>, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1
<toewsv1@parl.gc.ca>, "Nycole.Turmel"<Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca>,
Clemet1 <Clemet1@parl.gc.ca>, maritime_malaise
<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>, oig <oig@sec.gov>, whistleblower
<whistleblower@finra.org>, whistle <whistle@fsa.gov.uk>, david
<david@fairwhistleblower.ca>
Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "justin.trudeau.a1"
<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, "Juanita.Peddle"
<Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
"Wayne.Lang"<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Robert.Trevors"
<Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca>, "ian.fahie"<ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm

http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf


From: Gilles Moreau <Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy
Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH
Constable Peddle???
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails.

Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC
Director General
HR Transformation
73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2

Tel 613-843-6039
Cel 613-818-6947

Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC
Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines
73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502
Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2

tél 613-843-6039
cel 613-818-6947
gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca


>>> David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> 2012-11-21 00:01 >>>

Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its
because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it
yet

Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is the
link to Madoff and Putnam Investments

Here is why

http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2

Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate
Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice
Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the
following file

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf

NONE of you should have assisted in the cover up of MURDER CORRECT???


http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2011/2011-06-22/html/sor-dors122-eng.html

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>; <Rob.Renaud@cbc.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:45 PM
Subject: Question # 1 who the hell is Rob Renaus and di Robert Jone
and Jaques Poitra and Alan white etc forward you my latest emails


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Edith Cody-Rice <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:53:07 -0500
Subject: Calls and E-mails to CBC
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Cc: Rob Renaud <Rob.Renaud@cbc.ca>

Dear Mr. Amos:

CBC personnel have contacted me concerning your calls and e-mails to
them. As you are threatening legal action, would you kindly direct any
further calls or correspondence to me. Other CBC personnel will not
respond further to your correspondence or calls.


Edith Cody-Rice
Senior Legal Counsel
Premier Conseiller juridique
CBC/Radio-Canada
181 Queen Street, Ottawa, Ontario K1P 1K9
Postal Address: P.O. Box 3220, Station C, Ottawa K1Y 1E4
Tel: (613) 288-6164
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400
Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in
the USDOJ for me will ya?
To: RBauer <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith <msmith@svlaw.com>, bginsberg
<bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>, "gregory.craig"
<gregory.craig@skadden.com>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "bob.paulson"
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bob.rae"
<bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>, MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, leader
<leader@greenparty.ca>
Cc: alevine@cooley.com, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 04:44:54 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: YO Brent Rathgeber, Q.C., M.P.How is your conscience
doing these days? Remember in 2009 when your help in St Albert had
Robin Reid falsely arrested AFTER she visited Harper's office?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Oh dear another one of Amos'"ethical computers!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVY3m_EY5fc

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009/06/robin-reid-david-amos-werner.html


Subject: Office of the Prime Minister / Cabinet du Premier ministre
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:51:54 -0400
From: pm@pm.gc.ca
To: zorroboy2009@hotmail.com
CC: psepcwebmail@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca

Dear ROBIN REID :

On behalf of the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, I would like to
acknowledge receipt of your recent e-mail correspondence, in which you
raised an issue that falls within the portfolio of the Honourable Vic
Toews, Minister of Public Safety.

Please be assured that your comments have been carefully reviewed. I
have taken the liberty of forwarding your e-mail to the Minister, who,
I am certain, will also appreciate being made aware of your views.

Thank you for writing to the Prime Minister. For more information on
the Government's initiatives, you may wish to visit the Prime
Minister's Web site, at www.pm.gc.ca.

L.A. Lavell
Executive Correspondence Officer
for the Prime Minister's Office
Agent de correspondance
de la haute direction
pour le Cabinet du Premier ministre

----- Original Message -----
From: <RathgB0@parl.gc.ca>
To: <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:52 AM
Subject: RE: Re Wikileaks and Pfc Manning etc I just called you Mr
Coombs my number is 902 800 0369 Correct?

Dear Mr. Amos,

On behalf of Mr. Rathgeber, we acknowledge receipt and thank you for your
email.

Please be assured that we will apprise Mr. Rathgeber of your
correspondence at our earliest opportunity.

Thank you for taking the time to contact Mr. Rathgeber.

Regards,

Verena Baxter

Legislative Assistant
Brent Rathgeber, Q.C., M.P.
Edmonton-St. Albert
(613) 996 4722
(613) 863 8477

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 23:53:34 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Does Landslide Annie, Premier Redford, Barry Shaw and
John Errington really admit to knowing and liking this evil bastard
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I have no idea! But I am quite sure they don't think of you at all. In
fact I know for a fact, Premier Redford doesn't even see your e mails.

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2013/06/more-criminal-malice-for-david-amos-and_3.html

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2013/06/david-amos-and-his-little-mans-syndrome.html

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2013/06/introduce-me-to-your-lawyers-says-david.html

Oh by the way I stand by that post you just re posted. And just what
the fuck are the NDP going to do about it?

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/04/fwd-whereas-dix-and-clark-ordered-their.html

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009/06/rachel-notley-should-shut-fuck-up.html

I can and do write anything I want. After several years of your trying
to silence me, you have failed and continue to fail.

I have beaten you! I have abused you and your family and there is
nothing you can do about this. Squeal little Davey squeal!


http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2012/05/kill-david-amos-movie-and-soylent-green.html

Scroll down dummy. I told ya you should learn to read did I not?
Well call Harper or Toews or Rathbeger or the Canadian Human Rights
Commission

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009/06/jennifer-lynchfuck-you.html

http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009/07/welcome-to-inquistion.html

or better yet these useless RCMP pricks and say my name I Double Dog
Dare Ya Pervert.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2013/05/16/nb-internet-child-exploitation-funds-957.html

RCMP Internet Child Exploitation Unit

Insp. Kevin Leahy
Tel: (506) 451-6043.

Sgt. Jacques Boucher
709-772- 8272

Cpl. Jean-Marc Paré
506-470-9816

From: Anthony.Wright@forces.gc.ca
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 21:49:12 -0600
Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: RE Introduce Me To Your Lawyers, Lt
Col John Errington of the PPCLI
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for your email.

I will be out of the office on Exercise MAPLE RESOLVE from15 May to 8
June. My access to email may vary and my response time may be dictated
by exercise events. I will endevour to respond to your email as soon
as possible. You may also try to contact me via my mobile phone at
780-288-5082.

Thank you,
Lt(N) Tony Wright
1 CMBG PAO

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 23:07:48 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: RCMP Thats funny because I talked a lot of this week
about YOU Perhaps you should call your pals and tell you bullshit to
them EH Pervert?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

LOL LOL LOL And a lot of good these imaginary conversations have done you!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 06:42:57 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Is there RCMP pedophile Ring in Sylvan Lake?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

And your daughter Laura the Butt is dosed up again. That cunt has the
clap more often than a ten dollar injin princess hooker!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:03:11 -0300
Subject: FYI Mr Canning I stayed away from your loss until I read your
suggestion to the crook Ross Laundry and his RCMP PALS
To: glen@glencanning.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

You and yours have my deepest sympathy and that of many others

http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/04/11/rehtaeh-parsons-dad-suicide-huffington-post-glen-canning/

You may have heard of me way back when I ran against the former AG the
ex cop Murray Scot Trust that I have had quite a war with the
journalists within CBC Halifax Daily News and  CTV etc since 2002

No matter either way

I agree with you sir So I attacked the RCMP bigtime as only I can

Your words

"You have the opportunity here to do something good and lets face it;
the court system in Nova Scotia was just going to rape her all over
again with indifference to her suffering and the damage this did to
her.

My daughter wasn’t bullied to death, she was disappointed to death.
Disappointed in people she thought she could trust, her school, and
the police.

She was my daughter, but she was your daughter too.
For the love of God do something."

Amend

Here is just some of what I did

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/04/fwd-re-way-past-high-time-to-sue-tell.html

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/04/fwd-here-is-another-video-that-premier.html

In my opinion this is just the lawyer Dexter delaying things until he
is relected

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/n-s-premier-promises-review-of-rehtaeh-parsons-rcmp-investigation-1.1239414

I am very hard to get ahold of but if you call or send an email I will
get back to you ASAP

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369


Trust that I know the game and I won't play it. The Beancounter Jamee
Bailie clearly knows it and is merely hedging his bet responding about
EI instead of your matter

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: JamieBaillie <JamieBaillie@gov.ns.ca>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:44:46 +0000
Subject: RE: It seems that folks up in Kent Co know about me and Jamie
Baillie and his take on (EI) reform EH?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Dear Mr. Amos:

On behalf of the Honourable Jamie Baillie, thank you for your emails
received on April 15, 2013.

Your correspondence has been logged and will be reviewed in a timely manner.

Once again, thank you for your correspondence.

Sincerely,

Laraine Sleigh
Administrative Assistant
PC Caucus Office

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
To: "coquitlam info"<coquitlam_info@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gary.Rhodes"
<Gary.Rhodes@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Dale.McGowan"
<Dale.McGowan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "deanr0032"<deanr0032@hotmail.com>,
"sunrayzulu"<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, "michael.coren"
<michael.coren@sunmedia.ca>, "oldmaison"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
"ssamson"<ssamson@sylvanlake.ca>
Cc: "maryann4peace"<maryann4peace@gmail.com>, "andre"
<andre@jafaust.com>, "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
"premier"<premier@gov.ab.ca>, "premier"<premier@gov.bc.ca>,
"ddexter"<ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 6:48:33 PM
Subject: Re: Is there RCMP pedophile Ring in Sylvan Lake?

Oh My My Your shill Dirty Dicky Dean is off his meds again EH Gary
Rhodes of the RCMP?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irx0V7cdsdE

On 5/10/13, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1SH5lNMHlM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW76Mgj5wQA

Coquitlam RCMP
604-945-1550.
Email: coquitlam_info@rcmp-grc.gc.ca



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 04:20:36 -0300
Subject: Yo Mr Baconfat your pals such as Lt Col John Errington or Rod
Knecht or Kenny Baby Zeikle are not nearly as honest as your son Paul
N McCulloch
To: Anthony.Wright@forces.gc.ca, BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>,
Errington.john@forces.gc.ca, Christine.Salt@forces.gc.ca, rod knecht
<rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>, "Ken.Zielke"<Ken.Zielke@gov.ab.ca>,
"Dale.McGowan"<Dale.McGowan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "David.Veitch"
<David.Veitch@edmontonpolice.ca>
Cc: greg.weston@cbc.ca, president <president@whitehouse.gov>,
"BARRY.SHAW"<BARRY.SHAW@forces.gc.ca>, "Mackay.P"
<Mackay.P@forces.gc.ca>, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
mclellana <mclellana@bennettjones.com>, oldmaison
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andremurraynow <andremurraynow@gmail.com>,
andre <andre@jafaust.com>, evelyngreene <evelyngreene@live.ca>,
sallybrooks25 <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>, law <law@stevenfoulds.ca>,
police <police@fredericton.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"
<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Blinn"
<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, gleblanc <gleblanc@coxandpalmer.com>,
GillesLee <GillesLee@edmundston.ca>

"Everything I see from you proves just one thing: that you are lying,
racist, ignorant, trash."  Paul N McCulloch

His Mother was very wise tto keep her children away from you because
strongly suspect that YOU ARE A PEDOPHILE.

Why else would you write such sick things about women and kids?

More importantly WHY DO THE CORRUPT COPS THINK YOU ARE FUNNY?

With luck I will see you soon.

Veritas Vincit
David Rayymond Amos

From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 22:25:57 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Your son Paul N McCulloch and your other kids agree that
you are one sick perverted little weasel correct Mr Baconfat?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Indeed!

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 00:51:16 -0300
Subject: Your son Paul N McCulloch and your other kids agree that you
are one sick perverted little weasel correct Mr Baconfat?
To: brobinson <brobinson@ecojustice.ca>, fthomson@ecojustice.ca,
env.minister@gov.bc.ca, srussell@ecojustice.ca, Lemphersn@pembina.org,
joe.oliver@parl.gc.ca, peter.kent.c1@parl.gc.ca,
dean.delmastro.c1@parl.gc.ca, MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, "bob.rae"
<bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>, investor.relations@enbridge.com,
Karen.V.Johnston@gov.bc.ca, joe.oliver.c1@parl.gc.ca, premier
<premier@gov.ab.ca>, premier <premier@gov.bc.ca>, premier
<premier@gov.sk.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, cbroten
<cbroten@mla.legassembly.sk.ca>, highwood@assembly.ab.ca,
edmonton.meadowlark@assembly.ab.ca,
edmonton.highlandsnorwood@assembly.ab.ca, "Dale.McGowan"
<Dale.McGowan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, sunrayzulu <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>,
"rod.knecht"<rod.knecht@edmontonpolice.ca>, "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, jon.gerrard@leg.gov.mb.ca, xtofury
<xtofury@gmail.com>, dpaille@bloc.org, jnilson@mla.legassembly.sk.ca
Cc: mclellana <mclellana@bennettjones.com>, "rick.s \"Mackay.P\""
<Mackay.P@forces.gc.ca>, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, "BARRY.SHAW"
<BARRY.SHAW@forces.gc.ca>, ombreg <ombreg@ombudsman.sk.ca>,
alandry@ombudsman.sk.ca, caucus@ndpcaucus.sk.ca

http://snipernco.blogspot.ca/2007/01/its-all-about-me.html

Saturday, January 27, 2007


"Its all about me"

Mr. Paul N McCulloch once wrote this about Remembrance Day:


Posted by snipernco at 11:50 AM

1 comment:

 P. McCulloch said...
Ah Mr. Winters, you are a total fool.

I still hate Remembrance Day, go on and hate me for that. But your
remarks are nothing but rhetorical flourish, straw man, and ad hominem
"arguments."

One thing IS certain though, I certainly don't have any idea as to the
stories of my grandfather and great-uncle. That is because YOU sir,
refuse to tell them to me. You refuse to speak to your own children
solely because they took until their mid 20s to start trying to look
you up.

Everything I see from you proves just one thing: that you are lying,
racist, ignorant, trash.

My comments refer to the useless and tired ceremonial of a bad
holiday. This does not mean, as you seem to think, that I do not
support Canadian military personnel.

Lets not forget that you do not even know a thing about me beyond the
text of my blog entry. Yet you dismiss my comments as nothing but
ignorant stoner speak.

November 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ken Zielke <Ken.Zielke@gov.ab.ca>
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 03:38:23 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Tell it to your fictional butt buddy
Landslide Annie or the very real former soldier Sheriff Turner
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of the office  from May 24 - Jun 11, 2013 with minimal
access to email/BB. General inquiries to ASSIST can be directed to
780-427-5089 or  assist@gov.ab.ca   Or for direct inquiries, please
call Rick Saunders @ 780-644-8294

For Urgent matters, please call  780-422-3787  and ask for the ASSIST
On-Call Duty Officer.  Thank you.  Regards, Ken

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
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addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.

On 6/3/13, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 16:39:51 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: Re: "Pathetic lickspittle" EH? Need I say once again Shame on
> Landslide Annie and her former minions in the RCMP for supporting the
> likes of Mr Baconfat???
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Yo Amos! Its not " Its "PPCI". It's PPCLI numbnuts! Princess
> Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry.
>
> You "pathetic lickspittle."
>
> Love and bodily fluids to Laura!
>
> On 6/3/13, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Remember Redford's body guard Sheriff Tim Turner formerly of the  PPCl
>> ???
>>
>> Well I just called him and left a wicked message Then I called his
>> buddy "Bruce" on his cell and I discussed YOU PERVERT (780 422 4891)
>> (780 422 9397)
>>
>> https://www.diversitycan.com/tops.aspx?id=Queen-Medal-for-outstanding-citizen-Edmonton-community-leaders-701
>>
>> http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2009/05/thoughts-of-broken-man.html
>>
>> Sunday, May 31, 2009
>> The thoughts of a broken "man"
>> Or: Who the fuck is Sherriff Tim Turner and who cares? David Raymond
>> Amosuis a convicted pedophile that is holed up in New Brunswick
>> because he has outstanding arrest warrants in the US.
>>
>> Mr. Amos infects web sites, blogs and posts people's private personal
>> data to create mischief. He is an American animal and a conspiracy
>> theory nutter.
>>
>> He e mailed this to me...and to the chielf of the RCM Police, variousd
>> political leaders and his few fucked up friends. He is....beaten
>>
>> Until we meet in person I no longer care what you say or do.
>> AskSheriff Tim Turner why if you have the balls to do so.Veritas
>> VincitDavid Raymond Amos
>> Posted by Seren at 5:48 AM
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 16:10:01 -0600 (MDT)
>> Subject: Re: Here is the really important email that I sent out today
>> Ms Laundry ask Brad Wall and the RCMP if I am a liar or not
>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> Of course David, you are a liar and a retard. Your daughter has a warm
>> and nice twat thought!
>>
>> From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 16:09:05 -0600 (MDT)
>> Subject: Re: I just talked to many of your offices and only the
>> chickenshit named Robinson of Eco Justice refused to talk to me
>> Everybody else played dumb CORRECT?
>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> Yo, numbnuts! OOOps I did it again, more "criminal malice" for you on the
>> blog!
>>
>> My love and cum to Laura as always. David your imaginary guns are not
>> so impressive. I own
>> a beautiful 70's vintage Weatherby 270 Magnum and Zeiss scope. Shalom
>> little David!
>>
>> Monday, June 3, 2013
>> More "Criminal Malice" For David Amos and his "Family"
>>
>> David Amos, or in your vernacular, "yo Amos!" Were your ears burning
>> this week-end? They should have been. At the Oliver Community
>> festival, I ran into our mutual "friend", you call her "Landslide
>> Annie, she seems to prefer I just call her Anne.
>>
>> I should her on my phone your post about you knowing her and the
>> letter from her office. She says she has absolutely no recollection of
>> you and such matters would have been "staffed" with no input from her
>> save the signature, and perhaps not even that. After a perusal of many
>> of your e mail  and "blog posts" she reiterated, she has never heard
>> of you, and is very glad that she hadn't. The words she used to refer
>> to you was " a pathetic lickspittle."
>>




----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: <highwood@assembly.ab.ca>; <highwood@wildrose.ca>; "jeff.kasbrick"
<jeff.kasbrick@gov.ab.ca>; "PREM Premier"<premier@gov.ab.ca>; "tflanaga"
<tflanaga@ucalgary.ca>; "gthomson"<gthomson@edmontonjournal.com>;
"ezra.levant"<ezra.levant@sunmedia.ca>; "bob.rae"
<bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>; "vacman"<vacman@telus.net>; "nmoore"
<nmoore@bellmedia.ca>; "Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>;
"steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>
Cc: "MulcaT"<MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>; <Heralddbraid@calgaryherald.com>;
<RathgB0@parl.gc.ca>; "pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>; "Ken.Zielke"
<Ken.Zielke@gov.ab.ca>; <oldmaison@yahoo.com>; "robin reid"
<zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>; "terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>;
"acampbell"<acampbell@ctv.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:13 PM
Subject: BTW Premiers Redford, Alward, your nasty buddy Dominic Cardy,NUPGE,
CTV and CBC all know who the "other guy" is N'esy Pas Mr Mulcair?


Just Google a simple expression "Nobody Will Say My Name" and you will
find the blog that the RCMP's, Tommy Boy Lukazuk's and Chucky Lebanc's
evil blogging butt buddy Mr Baconfat loves to steal my words from so
that he can twist and spin them for the benefit of the nasty neocons.

Enjoy the latest three ring circus in Fat Fred City as nobody dares to
mention mean old me. N'esy pas Mr Murphy, Mr Moore (CTV) and Mr
Poitras (CBC)?

http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/2012/05/ctv-nick-moore-covers-blogger-charles.html

Does Stevey Boy Murphy seem familiar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ERN3OrEBWU&feature=plcp

http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/2012/05/cbc-television-covers-views-of-blogger.html

http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/2012/05/fredericton-police-chief-barry.html

http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/2012/05/national-union-of-public-and-general.html

Anonymous said...
There is still one more case out there. McKnight answered the CCLA
stating there were two cases under investigation. We still don't know
who the other person is.

They can't consider an inquiry until this second case is exposed and
dropped!

5:43 PM, May 08, 2012

On 5/9/12, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2012/05/thomas-mulcair-another-eastern-bastard.html
>
> Ms Daneille Smith should understand why I need to say that I am
> honoured that the perverted neocon shill who brags that he is one of
> Lukaszuk's best friends hates mean old me CORRECT?
>
> http://www.wildrose.ca/media/2012/05/May-7-2012-Letter-to-Premier-on-Cooperation-in-the-Legislature.pdf
>
> http://www.calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/Braid+Lukaszuk+orders+help+drive+Redford+reform+agenda/6588662/story.html
>
> From: robin reid
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:21 PM
> Subject: hoka hey
>
>
> called Glen and smith - i said your name - HOKA HEY
>
> Robin
>
> From: zorroboy2009@hotmail.com
> To: worbro@telus.net; david.raymond.amos@gmail.com; info@gg.ca;
> pm@pm.gc.ca; premier@gov.ab.ca; highwood@wildrose.ca
> Subject: YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 05:48:18 -0700
>
>
> Mr. Glen Springsteel,
>
> I have called Ms. Smith's office and she has not returned my call.
> Why is that??????
> Do you agree with abuse for profit Mr. Springsteel ???????
>
> Or how about the continued genocide ??????  The theft of life lands
> water and air upon the indian people and then
> all other races ??????? through the corrupt immigration program??????
>
> I would like to meet with you in High River and speak of many abuses
> Ms. Smith has ignored when I have contacted her.  Is this standard
> practise to use the abused and lie of the Wildrose Party???????
>
> I do have your number so I will be calling you later today also.
>
> As your leader Ms. Smith is being very deceitful and this is wrong.
>
> Thank you
> Robin Reid
> Red Nations
> PPOF
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
> Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 14:01:38 -0600
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Robin make note that the RCMP, Kenny Baby Zeikle PM
> Harper and Premier Redford cannot deny receiving Mr Baconfat's emails
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Cc: "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>
>
> Hey David! How are you, you ole child fucker? Hey so how's this for
> the kid fucker that claims to to have "lived hostory?" Thomas Lukaszuk
> was sworn in yesterday as Deputy Premier and head of operations for
> the government and Cabinet. I was there. Cabinet swearings are always
> neat.... there's always an open bar after. As I always say : "If the
> bar is free always order doubles"
>
> What is well and truly ironic is that you your diseased cunt friend
> Robin Reid will probably be chased out of Alberta now..,.just like she
> was out of Thomas Lukaszuk's constituency office
>
> Hey does your son Little Maxie boy still have male ejaculate oozing
> out of his ass?
>
> You remember that dose of the clap your "aged Mother" had some years
> ago? I gave it to her!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Saturday, May 5, 2012 9:10 pm
> Subject: Fwd: Robin make note that the RCMP, Kenny Baby Zeikle PM
> Harper and Premier Redford cannot deny receiving Mr Baconfat's emails
> To: Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
> Cc: "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 00:05:44 -0300
>> Subject: Robin make note that the RCMP, Kenny Baby Zeikle PM Harper
>> and Premier Redford cannot deny receiving Mr Baconfat's emails
>> To: robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>,
>>
>> The devil is always in the details Mr Baconfat admited to reading the
>> email about the big moon  that I did not send to his "Barry
>> Winters"email account. That was a very telling thing to me so
>> why bother sending that address anymore emails?
>>
>> More imporatantly the drunken pervert likely did not notice what he
>> was bouncing back to everyone tonigt.
>>
>> The emails from Hape and the lawyer Rathgeber were inserted the middle
>> of the the Big Moon email. Methinks Mr Baconfat just helped Harper
>> Ratheburger and to show everyone itheir fat nasty arses.
>>
>> Subject: Office of the Prime Minister / Cabinet du Premier ministre
>> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:51:54 -0400
>> From: pm@pm.gc.ca
>> To: zorroboy2009@hotmail.com
>> CC: psepcwebmail@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca
>>
>> Dear ROBIN REID :
>>
>> On behalf of the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, I would like to
>> acknowledge receipt of your recent e-mail correspondence, in
>> which you raised an issue that falls within the portfolio of the
>> Honourable Vic Toews, Minister of Public Safety.
>>
>> Please be assured that your comments have been carefully
>> reviewed. I have taken the liberty of forwarding your e-mail to the
>> Minister, who,
>> I am certain, will also appreciate being made aware of your views.
>>
>> Thank you for writing to the Prime Minister. For more information on
>> the Government's initiatives, you may wish to visit the Prime
>> Minister's Web site, at www.pm.gc.ca.
>>
>>
>> L.A. Lavell
>> Executive Correspondence Officer
>> for the Prime Minister's Office
>> Agent de correspondance
>> de la haute direction
>> pour le Cabinet du Premier ministre
>>
>>
>> From: RathgB0@parl.gc.ca
>> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:52:39 -0500
>> Subject: RE: Re Wikileaks and Pfc Manning etc I just called you Mr
>> Coombs my number is 902 800 0369 Correct?
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>> On behalf of Mr. Rathgeber, we acknowledge receipt and thank you
>> for your email.
>> Please be assured that we will apprise Mr. Rathgeber of your
>> correspondence at our earliest opportunity.
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to contact Mr. Rathgeber.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Verena Baxter
>> Legislative Assistant
>> Brent Rathgeber, Q.C., M.P.
>> Edmonton-St. Albert
>> (613) 996 4722
>>
>>
>> On 5/5/12, BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey Little "Rob" still trying to sue the Pope, Queen? And still turning
>> > tricks for dope?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Saturday, May 5, 2012 8:36 pm
>> > Subject: Fwd: FW: YOU and Kenny Baby Zeikle are PAID by
>> Redford to read EVERY word of mine Too bad so sad you evil bastards did
>> not
>> know how to write though
>> > To: sunrayzulu@shaw.ca, Ken.Zielke@gov.ab.ca,
>> jeff.kasbrick@gov.ab.ca, robin
>> > reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>
>> > Cc: "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre
>> <andre@jafaust.com>,> evelyngreene <evelyngreene@live.ca>,
>> "sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca"> <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>,
>> thepurplevioletpress> <thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com>
>> >
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> From: robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>
>> >> Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 19:31:08 -0700
>> >> Subject: FW: YOU and Kenny Baby Zeikle are PAID by Redford to read
>> >> EVERY word of mine Too bad so sad you evil bastards did not know how
>> >> to write though
>> >> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, askdoj@usdoj.gov,
>> premier@gov.ab.ca,>> pm@pm.gc.ca, maggie491@hotmail.com, people stand up
>> >> <tonyanderson40@eastlink.ca>, contact@treaty7.org, dominic
>> >> <dmc_gangstar@hotmail.com>, edmonton.glenora@assembly.ab.ca,
>> >> edmonton.meadowlark@assembly.ab.ca,
>> edmonton.riverview@assembly.ab.ca,>> aimggc@worldnet.att.net,
>> andrer@sen.parl.gc.ca,>> barry.shaw@forces.gc.ca,
>> calgary.cross@assembly.ab.ca,>> calgary.elbow@assembly.ab.ca,
>> calgary.varsity@assembly.ab.ca,>>
>> calgary.lougheed@assembly.ab.ca, bishopfh@rcdiocese-calgary.ab.ca,
>> >> cardston.taberwarner@assembly.ab.ca, chiefcouncil@pikwakanagan.ca,
>> >> chrisjjmotorcars@gmail.com, cliff.atleo@nuuchahnulth.org,
>> >> contact@whoisleonardpeltier.info, creeyellowlegs@knet.ca,
>> David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>,
>> david.patton@albertahealthservices.ca,>> david johnston GOV
>> GENERAL <info@gg.ca>, dbrazeau@justice.gc.ca,
>> >> events@greyeaglecasino.ca, health <jay.ramotar@gov.ab.ca>,
>> >> health.minister@gov.ab.ca, health.ahinform@gov.ab.ca,
>> >> ida.chong.mla@leg.bc.ca, ieagray@hotmail.com, info@greenparty.ca,
>> >> info@josipa.ca, info@justin.ca, info@liberal.ca,
>> >> info@lethbridgelawyers.com, jimsisson@inac.gc.ca,
>> >> jspottedbear@yahoo.com, justice <ray.bodnarek@gov.ab.ca>,
>> >> ken.zielke@gov.ab.ca, Marilyn <mj_baptiste@yahoo.ca>, michael
>> >> wolfheart <wolfheartlodge@live.com>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Premier RedfordEdmonton, Alberta. Ms. Redford, What kind of
>> >> women and mother would condone assaults, Barry Winters, Ken Zeikle,
>> defamation, murder, lies and use the abused like you have done?????
>> >> Please answer this as you being a human rights lawyer I believe you
>> >> have
>> done many wrongs here, been very deceitful and lie. You and the likes
>> of your people will hang your heads in shame  when the truth prevails, do
>> you
>> >> think your children will be proud of what youhave done with all your
>> >> education???????? Now concerning suing the oil companies over
>> >> royalties, is this for the people that you have so abused all these
>> >> years or is this just foryour own pockets as godly corrupt
>> >> government?????  REMEMBER IT'S ALL INDIAN LANDS THAT GODLY
>> >> GOVERNMENTKILLED, THIEVED AND LIED FOR, NOW IS THAT SOMETHING
>> >> YOU ARE PROUD OF??????? Shame, Shame Thank you Robin ReidRed
>> >> NationsPPOF
>> >>  > Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 22:36:33 -0300
>> >> > Subject: YOU and Kenny Baby Zeikle are PAID by Redford to read
>> >> EVERY word of mine Too bad so sad you evil bastards did not know
>> >> how to write though
>> >> > From: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> >> > To: sunrayzulu@shaw.ca; premier@gov.ab.ca; pm@pm.gc.ca
>> >> > CC: Ken.Zielke@gov.ab.ca; jeff.kasbrick@gov.ab.ca
>> >> >
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: <jwood@calgaryherald.com>; "greg.weston"<greg.weston@cbc.ca>;
"news-tips"<news-tips@nytimes.com>; "newsroom"
<newsroom@theguardian.pe.ca>; "newsonline"<newsonline@bbc.co.uk>;
"occupymontreal"<occupymontreal@groups.facebook.com>
Cc: <premier.ministre@gouv.qc.ca>; <premier@gov.ns.ca>; "premier"
<premier@gov.nl.ca>; "premier"<premier@gov.sk.ca>; "premier"
<premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:51 PM
Subject: Notice the Wildrose, the NDP and the Liberals are playing dumb
while one of Harper's spindoctors attacks me?


http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Wildrose+party+stirs+suggestions+firewall+around+Alberta/6457727/story.html

From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:42:49 -0600
Subject: Re: Mr Harper, Mr Alward and Ms Redford consider these to be
ethical responses to VERY legit questions???
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Cc: pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, PREM Premier
<premier@gov.ab.ca>, thomas <thomas@thomasmla.com>,
leader@greenparty.ca, "bob.rae"<bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>,
MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, ChangeAlbertaEdmonton
<ChangeAlbertaEdmonton@yahoo.ca>, ChangeAlbertaCalgary
<ChangeAlbertaCalgary@yahoo.ca>, danielle
<danielle@wildrosealliance.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>,
"andy.campbell"<andy.campbell@bellmedia.ca>, nmoore
<nmoore@bellmedia.ca>, "terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>,
"Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "Wayne.Lang"
<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, woodsideb <woodsideb@fredericton.ca>,
mhayes <mhayes@stu.ca>, dsimon <dsimon@stu.ca>, occupyfredericton
<occupyfredericton@gmail.com>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, thepurplevioletpress
<thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com>, "daniel.towsey"
<daniel.towsey@yahoo.com>, robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>

LOL LOL LOL David!

So the Premier of New Brunswick will "confirm that you were educated
in New Brunswick!" Well you have him just do that for us! The Premier
of Alberta and I won't hold our breath! You did adress this shite of
yours to her right?

Well son, here is another blog enty about Alberta's election and New
Brunswicks most notorious pedophile...enjoy!

----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:26 am
Subject: Mr Harper, Mr Alward and Ms Redford consider these to be
ethical responses to VERY legit questions???
To: pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, PREM Premier
<premier@gov.ab.ca>, thomas <thomas@thomasmla.com>,
leader@greenparty.ca, "bob.rae"<bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>,
MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, ChangeAlbertaEdmonton
<ChangeAlbertaEdmonton@yahoo.ca>, ChangeAlbertaCalgary
<ChangeAlbertaCalgary@yahoo.ca>, danielle
<danielle@wildrosealliance.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>,
"andy.campbell"<andy.campbell@bellmedia.ca>, nmoore
<nmoore@bellmedia.ca>, "terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>,
"Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "Wayne.Lang"
<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, woodsideb <woodsideb@fredericton.ca>,
mhayes <mhayes@stu.ca>, dsimon <dsimon@stu.ca>, occupyfredericton
<occupyfredericton@gmail.com>
Cc: "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, thepurplevioletpress
<thepurplevioletpress@gmail.com>, Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>,
"daniel.towsey"<daniel.towsey@yahoo.com>, robin reid
<zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>

Premier Alward should at least affirm that I was educated in New
Brunswick and that unlike his blogging buddy Chucky Leblanc I have my
pride intact and have never collected a penny of welfare.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

For the Public Record every one of the words below are PUBLISHED by
the neocon spin doctor Mr Baconfat after the writ was dropped for the
currnt election in Alberta

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BARRY WINTERS <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:52:42 -0600
Subject: Re: Mr Baconfat are you again drunk too?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>


Two new blog enties...just for "mean ole you"! You will need some one
to read them to you.

Must be that Amerkan "education" huh!

"Hoka Hey""I double dawg dare ya" and "C'yall in court"...yeah right!
lol lol lol

Monday, April 16, 2012
Charle LeBlanc, David Amos and Robin Reid, parasites and dumb animals

Charles LeBlanc, David Amos, his "family", and Little Zorroboy are
parasites, leetches and less human and much more animal like. I mean,
get a haircut and a job already!

Perhaps when Amos and LeBlanc are returned to jail they can attend the
prison's grade school and receive an education they sorely require.

Charles LeBlanc is a retard with ADHD, but alas if retards with Down's
Syndrome etc, can work at MacDonalds, Goodwill and WalMart, so can
Charles. Then he can stop being a parasite on Canadian society and
using his "mental disorder" as an excuse, to misbehave on the street
and in court.

With our amerkan "friend" David Amos in back in jail or returned to US
custody, the little boys of Fredericton won't be fucked in the ass and
safe from this monster.

Both these "people" in New Brunswick need to be removed from the
"public dole", and public sight. Perhaps when Charles LeBlanc and
David Amos are  returned to jail, they will die.

We can only hope and pray and I am sure their families and New
Brunswick taxpayers hope and pray too!
Posted by Seren at 7:48 AM 0 comments
Enbridge, Kinder Morgan,The "Harper Doctrine" and Injuns

Last week mostly un-noticed was the announcement by Kinder Morgan
Partners Inc the operators of the existing Trans Mountain Pipeline
from Calgary to Burnaby BC, to spend roughly 5 billion dollars and
twin it.

Capacity will will be more than doubled. Now, one oil tanker every
four days is loaded for Asian markets from the terminal in Burnaby.
When the project is completed, a tanker each day will ply English Bay
in Vancouver, to Asian markets.

It is essential for Canada's economic security to diversify its export
of crude and bitumen to markets other than "amerka". The refusal of
the currant amerkan administration to authorize the Keystone XL
pipeline is an example of this.

It has been further suggested in some quarters that another pipeline
for the shipment to Eastern Canadian markets for bitumen be built. I
have no idea if such an endeavour is economic or profitable, but the
appropriate feasibility studies should be initiated.

During the first five years Harper was in office, Canada's economic
eggs were in amerka's basket. But the Prime Minister and his
government has taken the view that amerka is in "relative decline" as
an economic and geo-political "superpower. No longer is that Canada's
policy. The Harper Government has embarked on a remarkably ambitious
economic diversification agenda. Hence trade talks with India, China,
Japan the opening up of the Alberta oil sands to Chinese
investment...and so on.


The currant "public hearings" regarding the environmental economic
impact of the proposed Northern Gateway Project are time consuming,
mostly irrelevant, and an opportunity for Indian "nations" to claim
"fifteen minutes fame".

Canada's 633 "first nations reserves" are with few exceptions
economically sterile, socially backward, and socially, culturally and
governmentally un-evolved cesspools. Whereas the MacKenzie Valley
Pipeline Hearings and decision making process were of epic Biblical
length...the final result is that skyrocketing construction costs and
sagging gas prices have put the project on the shelf. Alas now "first
nations" towns like Inuvik's gas wells are on their last legs and
"there is nothing left in the tank". Inuvik and other "first nations
communities" are in peril of having NO natural gas that they depend
upon.

The Harper Government is determined to streamline the process of
environmental hearings and decision making process regarding the
Northern Gateway Pipeline. Indeed an efficent and relatively quick
decision will increase the economic status and improve the quality of
"first nations" members lives exponitially. (no more injun drunks in
the streets of Kitimat?)

The problem is is many "first nations", and environmental
organizations in Canada are getting significant funding for their
efforts in the hearing process from amerkan NGOs, EU governments,
foreign environmental groups, etc. This is because these foreign
interests are against the development of Alberta Oil Sands and
Canadian economic prosperity.

The Alberta Oil Sands contribute less that 5 % of the world's
Greenhouse Gases and less than 3.5 % of Canada's Greenhouse Gas
emissions. So it is clear that these foreign interests are more
interested in stopping Canada's economic development rather than
curbing Greenhouse Gases ...when China, India and amerka emit over 50
% of the world's Greenhouse Gases.

The amerkan government whilst not wanting to approve the Keystone
Pipeline until after the election cycle...does NOT want Canada
diversifying its energy exports to China and or Asia....more energy
for Eastern Canadian and Asian markets means less for amerka and
amerkan industry.

The "Canadian" groups and people that are against or concerned about
the Northern Gateway project are NOT raising their own money to
finance their legal campaign. In short Canadians are NOT paying for
this legal challenge....EU governments, amerkan special interest
groups and amerkan NGOs are. That indeed begs the question: How much
Canadian support do these injun and environmental "activists" have
here in Canada....The answer is probably very little. Clearly the
hearings regarding Northern Gateway have less to do with the
"environmental impact" in Canada and much more to do with foreign
oppositon of the continued development of the Alberta Oil Sands for
whatever motives.

The Harper Government is not only to expedite the currant hearing
process but also create legislation and regulation to streamline the
approval and decision making process for future projects That is
probably a very much needed reform, as today's National Post reports
that the Canadian Arctic "is primed to attract 100 billion in
investments in the next decade...."

The economic and political centre of gravity of Canada continues to
shift from Eastern Canada to Western Canada. Alberta, Saskatchewan and
BC are the only provinces that do NOT receive equalization. In short
Western Canada pays the "bills of Confederation" and the government
and social programmes of the rest of Canadian provinces.

It seems the Harper Government understands this reality!  .


Posted by Seren at 7:28 AM 0 comments
Sunday, April 15, 2012
food for the worms!

The Edmonton Journal sponsored an awareness campaign for the
"homeless"....There was an artist's rendering of a homeless "man"
pushing his shopping cart with the caption...."I am human" NOPE!

Folks like David Amos and Charles LeBlanc in Fredericton New Brunswick
criminals and parasites on the public dole are NOT human. But
parasites sucking sustenance from the hard work and others. These
animals take food from the mouths of children of hard working normal
working parents.

Both of these uneducated animals need to consider euthenisia....time
to pull the plug!
Posted by Seren at 9:44 PM 0 comments
"Hoka Hey.. was that kid I molested ever good!"...David Raymond Amos.
You "love them all", right, David!

Have you seen him? Have you seen pictures of David Amos on the web? He
is a dead ringer for Charles Manson. You can smell his disease through
cyber-space, and that of his "family".

"C yall in court" Davey Baby
Posted by Seren at 2:01 PM 0 comments
"Hoka Hey!" Its an amerkan pedophile!

Have you seen him? Have you seen his picture on the web?David Raymond
Amos is a dead ringer for Charlie Manson! You can almost smell his
disease through cyber-space and that of his "family!" David Raymond
Amos is only in Canada, because he is fugitive in the US, a coward and
pedophile.

Bang Bang...
Posted by Seren at 12:47 PM 0 comments
Charles Leblanc, David Amos and the New Brunswick welfare province

Those on welfare, or AISH are less than human. If a man can't take
care of himself and his family financially...he is not a man. It IS
that simple.

David Amos is a convicted pedophile and Charles Leblanc is a
retard.....bang!
Posted by Seren at 12:45 PM 0 comments
The pedophile. Charles leblanc and Freddy Mwenenegabo

Sections 92 to 24 of the BNA Act 1867 (consolidated) delineate Federal
jurisdictions and Provincial jurisdictions in Canada. It not just the
law that enacted Canada , it is the "owners manual". Health care,
social programmes in the BNA Act are matters of provincial
jurisdiction....as is the concept of "equalization payments" to the
provinces.

Alberta's citizens pay roughly 5,700.00 a year, every man woman and
child in kanadian federal tax. The highest per capita rate in all of
kanada. While the BNA Act and other kanadian law declares ownership of
all natural resources to Alberta and its citizens...the federal
government has the right to tax them and enact safety, environmental
standards, and the like.

While "equalization" so that provinces can provide "equal" government
services to citizens is "constitutionally mandated" ... federal
transfer payments and the "federal spending authority" in provincial
jurisdictions is NOT. These are federal / provincial agreements or
federal kanadian law initiated by a succession of liberal federal
governments.

So every man, woman and child in Alberta pays 5,700.00 that is used to
pay for the kanada social transfer, kanada health care transfer for
example: That goes towards provinces paying for health care and social
welfare in the rest of kanada .

Stephen Harper, Tom Flanagan et al asked all those years ago when they
penned the treatise about "firewalling Alberta"...why? The Wild Rose
Alliance and Albertans now are asking that same question....why?

A retarded blogger (has ADHD) Charles Leblanc in Fredericton New
Brunswick blogs daily and his computers, servers, camera, Charles
LeBlanc 's very life is subsidized by "every man. woman and child in
Alberta".

Today the mentally retarded Charles Leblanc blogs about Freddy
Mwenengabo, a black refugee from Congo to New Brunswick. This black
"man" is on a "hunger strike" because he is upset about what is
happening in his home in Congo.

The mentally retarded Charles Leblanc is on camera pleading for people
to call Stephen Harper and ....save poor Freddy Mwenengabo. These two
retards are lying to us. Pore ole Freddy and Charles wants kanada to
boycott the La Franophinie "African Summit" next October. But kanada
is NOT the only kanadian members of La Francophonie. New Brunswick and
Quebec are members of La Francophonie. Indeed, every man, woman and
child in Alberta contributes to the 200 million dollars in dues and
fees per year, kanada pays to La Francophonie for kanada's, New
Brunswick and Quebec's "membership".

Why should every man, woman and child in Alberta pay roughly 5,700.00
dollars a year towards La Francophonie, or the social assistance of
Charles Leblanc, his blog or the beer he drinks? Why shouldn't Charles
Leblanc, David Amos and their ilk get jobs, and pore ole Freddy
Mwenengabo go back to Congo rather than ..."every man. woman. and
child in Alberta" pay towards the sustenance of these animals.

The bills of  kanada, its social programmes, health care, AISH and
government are paid for by the three provinces that do NOT pay
equalization. (Alberta, BC, Sask.) The "fathers of Confederation" in
the BNA Act gave most jurisdictions to the provinces...it was never
envisioned the federal government would pay for the cost of the
provinces providing their citizens with "services".

Albertans are questioning the expenditure of over 200 million per year
for La Francophonie, or the costs of New Brunswick's or Quebec's
social programmes.

Alberta, the retard, pedophile and Freddy! .

Posted by Seren at 10:25 AM 0 comments
Saturday, April 14, 2012
David Amos, the ugly amerkan, scums amd bums and Ralph Klein

When Ralph Klein first won election as Alberta's Premier all those
years ago, he promised voters in the campaign to cut government
spending, the size of the civil service, and to put Alberta's fiscal
house in order. And he did just that. Government privatized many
services, cut the civil service, and decimated the welfare rolls. What
a "politically novel idea" a politician made specific campaign
promises...and he kept them! Ralph Klein did that.

Ralph Klein bemoaned the influx of eastern kanadian scums and bum, or
ugly amerkans like David Amos and Robin Reid...

Tom Flanagan, Stephen Harper and the University of Calgary Poly Sci
department wanted to "firewall Alberta from the Federal Government du
kanada, in their treatise some years ago.And now the Wild Rose
Alliance has made campaign promises out of many of their ideas.
Albertans now appear to want theses ideas: Withdrawal from CPP, an
Alberta Provincial Police Service, reduction of welfare rolls,
withdrawal from the Canada Health Care Transfer...and other methods of
"firewalling" Alberta from the ravages of the federal government.

The Federal Government du kanada takes a little over 5,700.00 for
every man, woman and child in Alberta in federal taxes. The highest
per capita rate in Canada. This money goes to pay for the social
programmes in Quebec, New Brunswick and the rest of kanada. The Wild
rose Alliance is determined to reduce the "tax points" sent to Ottawa.

A major plank of the Wild Rose Alliance fiscal platform is a "balanced
budgets" act, reduction of spending on social programmes and NO
increase to the tax rate of Alberta's personal income flat tax.The
"oil patch" appears to be solidly behind the Wild Rose Alliance.

Are the "political winds changing in Alberta?" Well, it will NOT be
the "progressive political change" that Change Alberta is trumpeting.
But that is NOT what Albertans want!

So while our pedophile "friend" David Amos claims to be able to inform
Albertans about electing "ethical politicians" to the "People's House"
from his dumpster in New Brunswick.....it seems Albertans are doing
just fine.



Posted by Seren at 5:13 PM 0 comments
Robin Reid, David Amos, Thomas Lukaszuk and Ralph Klein

Robin Reid AKA "zorroboy" is not human. She is NOT a human, but a
walking, talking decrepit female sex organ!

The Edmonton Journal has a campaign for the "homeless". It features a
rendering of a homeless pig pushing "its" shopping cart with the
caption...."I am human".....No they're not. Humans make a
contribution, try to make a difference, are self reliant, are honest,
and decent. The "homeless", David Amos, Robin Reid et al...are none,
absolutely none of these things. They have NONE of what they call
"mental and physical human rights"...they are parasites.

Both of these con artists are well known by the police services in New
Brunswick and Alberta.

Robin Reid has been removed kicking, and screaming high on drugs from
MLA Thomas Lukaszuk's office, Stephen Harper's Calgary office and
other politicians offices several times.  The RCMP have incarcerated
both these animals in mental institutions in their respective
provinces.

Neither of these animals have jobs, or ever had a job, neither are
educated....Both are parasites, sucking from others their sustenance

The prostitute Robin Reid claims that Ralph Klein sent "thugs" to
"break her arm".....

That begs the question: Why would Ralph Klein or anyone want to "break
the arm" of one that isn't even really human?

Posted by Seren at 9:21 AM 0 comments
Diseased pedophile David Amos, Premier Redford and "poltical change in
Alberta"

David Amos a pedophile in New Brunswick who has never been to Alberta
says! "The RCMP and their political master Allison Redford is
corrupt!"  That seems "rich" a sexual monster unlawfully at large and
with outstanding arrest warrants in the US calling the Premier of
Alberta... corrupt! Our "friend" and "political observer" David Amos
also claims former Cabinet Minster Ann McCelland was also "corrupt. It
appears our pedophile "friend" does not like women much. But that is
NOT surprising, because when you look at his pictures on the web, he
is a dead ringer for Charlie Manson....right down to the tattoos!

Now, "friend" David Amos has "jumped on the bandwagon" trumpeting the
need for "political change in Alberta" from his bus shelter abode in
Fredericton New Brunswick. David also claims that he can "assist"
Change Alberta, an organization seeking "progressive change" in
Alberta's politics and government.

That begs the question: What can a homeless pedophile in New Brunswick
that has sticky keys on his laptop from masturbating while downloading
kiddie porn, possibly do to "assist" in affecting"progressive
political change" in Alberta?

David Amos claims he can use "social media" to inform voters to elect
what he calls "ethical politicians" to what he calls "the People's
House" (an amerkan term)

So are the "winds of political change blowing" in Alberta? Well,
notwithstanding David Amos'"assistance" to Change Alberta and its
mission of "progressive political change in Alberta", maybe!

With nine days to go in the campaign polls suggest the   Wild Rose
Alliance and the Progressive Conservative Party of Alberta are neck in
neck in final days....Albertans are choosing betwixt a "right of
centre" conservative party and a MORE  "right wing" conservative party
Wild Rose Alliance.The "left of centre" NDP and Liberals are non
players in this electoral cycle.

Albertans appear to or may favour a party that wants to adhere to the
principles of "firewalling Alberta" from the political machinations of
the Federal Government du Kanada. Albertans may well favour a party
that wants to reduce "social programmes" and keep Alberta's personal
fat tax low.

Albertans may well favour a party that wants to consider "having a
conversation" about the privatization of health care in Alberta.

Neither the Wild Rose or the Tories want to revisit or increase oil
and gas royalties or corporate taxes...both parties want to cut
government jobs and social programmes ...a policy that Ralph Klein
proposed and implemented many years ago....A policy that most
Albertans approve of now.

This is NOT the "progressive political change" Change Alberta is
looking for .....but alas Albertans do NOT want the ...."progressive
political change", Change Alberta is looking for.I, personally have NO
problem with a Wild Rose Alliance government. Everything they stand
for....I stand for!

That brings us back to our uneducated, homeless pedophile "friend"
David Amos. And how this "political observer" can educate or inform
Albertans from the streets of New Brunswick?

What can a pedophile who doesn't like women or women politicians tell
Albertans so they can vote in "ethical politicians" to what amerkans
call...."The People's House?"

It seems to this Albertan and contributing member of society that
"people" like David Amos,Robin Reid Evelyn Greene et al... is exactly
why Alberta needs to "firewall" itself from  rest of  Kanada.

Indeed! The "winds of political change are blowing!"
Posted by Seren at 8:11 AM 0 comments
Monday, April 9, 2012
The sexual offender and the prostitute junkie

Allow me to introduce or re-introduce you to two under-evolved animals
of Canadian society, Robin Reid and David Amos. These two "e mail
buddies" are both losers and parasites in Canadian society. Neither of
these animals have worked a day in their lives, and both are "on the
dole".

David Raymond Amos cruises the parks, playgrounds, and schoolyards of
Fredericton New Brunswick looking for children to screw.

Robin Reid "lives" in Alberta and off  Alberta taxpayers. Robin Reid
is prostitutes herself to support her heroin habit, and collects
welfare. She calls herself "zorroboy" on the web and when she gets
high she talks about "suing the Pope or Queen." When she isn't high,
she practises bestiality to support her drug habit.

Robin Reid has been arrested by Alberta RCMP on numerous occasions,
and been thrown out of MPs, the PM's and Alberta Cabinet Minister
Thomas Lukaszik's offices because she was high and creating a
disturbance.

David Raymond Amos has, "been homeless for five fucking years," he
says! Yet he has the time to comment on Alberta politics and offer
"assistance" to Change Alberta.

Perhaps David should consider ....getting a haircut and a job.

Robin Reid is a diseased, half brain dead, junkie and parasite, well
known to police and garbage men looking for a quick yet dirty blow
job.

See what Canadian tax dollars go for?
Posted by Seren at 10:59 AM 0 comments
Dasvid Amos'"hate filled filth" and political and social discourse

If David Amos does not like what you write or  your informed point of
view of Alberta political life he calls it..."hate filled filth". But
alas what would one expect from an uneducated, homeless sex offender
in New Brunswick?

It seems that Al Michalchuk had to return to police headquarters and
police investigators yesterday and charges appear to be pending. It
seems that Al Michalchuck a Wild Rose Party supporter assaulted
Alberta Cabinet Minister Thomas Lukaszuk.

It appears the "dew has left" the Wild Rose Party in this campaign.
Alberta's neo-conservative equivalent of "amerkas" GOP with their
ideology of a "bible in one hand and a gun in the other" appears to
have stumbled in this campaign.

Danielle Smith has urged Wild Rose Party supporters to "curb their
enthusiasm" and political zeal and refrain from violence before
someone gets killed.

Poly Scientists state studies show people make their minds up
regarding political candidates about ten to fourteen days before an
election. So this is a seminal point in the campaign. This Thursday is
the leaders debate.

I personally think, my view is: Alberta's political demographics or
discourse is moving "left of centre" and NOT further to the "right"
where lies Wild Rose political ideology. Notwithstanding recent polls:
I do NOT see women in Alberta voting for a political party that wants
to de-list or de-insure abortion. Nor do I see Albertan's endorsing a
party that wants to "privatize" or "reform" health care.

Unlike our "political observer and sexual offender friend" in New
Brunswick....I live here in Alberta, know what I am talking about and
am invested as all Albertans are in our political discourse..... The
Liberals and NDP are NOT players or relevant in this election. So the
question is: Is Albertan's appetite for change so great to move the
electorate to a "right of centre" or neo-conservative party?Rather
than re-electing a party more to the "centre" at this point in time.

Do women want to protect women's access to health services, or "right
of centre" political change?

And...there is nothing a sex offender homeless uneducated David Amos,
in New Brunswick can do to "assist" with that political dialogue here
in Alberta.
Posted by Seren at 8:31 AM 0 comments
The New Brunswick sex offender and "change" in Alberta

In New Brunswick, there is a drooling, feverish, agitated registered
sex offender named David Raymond Amos, pounding away on his computer.
David Amos says he has been "homeless for five fucking years" and he
now  claims to be able to "assist" Change Alberta in the ongoing
Alberta general election.

David has said that he has some "truths" he just has to proclaim about
"Danielle Smith and Allison Redford".

That begs the question: What "assistance" can a homeless, registered
sex offender in Fredericton New Brunswick provide to any political
organization in Alberta? Obviously this is a clear case of social
media run amok.

What political "truths" or insight into Alberta political discourse
can an uneducated, homeless sex offender in New Brunswick provide? It
is a very long way from Chalmers Mental Hospital to Edmonton Alberta.

It is roughly half way through the current election campaign and this
coming Thursday is the televised leaders debate. This is clearly a
watershed political moment for Allison Redford and the Alberta Tories.

David Amos can't even watch the debate (he has no TV service) not that
it would be televised in New Brunswick! But he has"truths" to share
and children to molest.

In the last week of the Alberta election campaign it appears the Wild
Rose Alliance has "jumped the shark" whereas many of its policies now
appear to lack credibility. The possibilityy of private health care,
the de-listing or de-insuring of abortion, and "issues of conscience",
that is marriage commissions refusing to marry gays and lesbians.

Now that is my view, hopefully an accurate observation, rather than
fact. Certainly not the "truth" from a homeless sex offender in New
Brunswick who has never lived in Alberta.
Posted by Seren at 7:22 AM 0 comments
Full Contact politics ....Alberta Style

It finally happened! I oft wonder why it doesn't more often. In Canada
"door-knocking" is the preferred way for political candidates to
campaign for public office. It seems there is video evidence that
homeowner Al Michalchuk assaulted Tory Cabinet Minster Thomas
Luksazuk. Also the fact Mr. Michalchuk lied to police....telling them
the incident lasted two minutes ...yet video evidence shows the
incident lasted ten minutes and Lukasuk limping off.

This morning's Edmonoton Journal quotes Mr. Michalchuk saying that
police investigators "strongly indicated to him that he will be
charged."

There has NOT been very many, if any incidents of people being
"overcome with political zeal"and assaulting those running for
political office in Alberta. This seems to be a"Wild Rose Alliance"
sort of thing.

With the Alberta election campaign about halfway to the finish line,
Danielle Smith is asking the Wild Rose base to "curb their enthusiasm"
and behave.

Given the fact that the Wild Rose is Alberta's version of the
GOP..."folks with a bible in one hand and a gun in the other...."
diluting their "political zeal" before they kill someone might be a
very good idea.
Posted by Seren at 6:25 AM 0 comments
Sunday, April 8, 2012
Anything you post on the world-wide-web is forever. Anything written
on about you, or information about you is forever. It is always
available for someone to look you up, revisit comments about you,
examine and or reexamine you record or history.

With that in mind, allow me to introduce you to David Raymond Amos,
his daughter Laura the Hutt and homosexual prostitute son Max. Both
these "children" hate and disown their father David, who is a
convicted criminal and registered sex offender.

David Amos has for many years mis-represented himself as an "ethical
whistle blower", a participant in the investigations and prosecutions
of Whitey Bulger, and Bernie Madoff. He has claimed he was a "bounty
hunter" in the US, that amerkan authorities attempted to "render" him
to Guantanamo Bay, so he fled to Canada. David claims he gets phone
calls from the US "White House".

David claims to have "sued Cardinal Law" and most everyone else. In
fact our little "friend" David  claims the former Premier Ralph Klein
paid money to have the "arm broken" of a prostitute and junkie named
Robin Reid.

David has been arrested and incarcerated in jail but also the
Chalmers Mental Institution in New Brunswick on a Lt. Governor's
Warrant.

So now our "friend" David claims an ability to "assist" Change Alberta
and other political organizations in Alberta during the ongoing
General Election Campaign in Alberta. He phones Change Alberta, on
Easter Sunday. He has called the Military Police at Edmonton Garrison,
the Military Police Complaints Commission, the Edmonton Police
Service, Alberta Cabinet Ministers, the Mayor of Sylvan Lake, the
Mayor of Edmonton...the list is almost endless...and everyone he has
called has told him to screw off.

Does this sound like a "man" who can "assist" anyone? NO ONE has ever
listened to him, and NO ONE does now. David Amos has a infamous
reputation amongst New Brunswick law enforcement and radio phone in
talk show hosts throughout Maritime Kanada.

David Amos is an uneducated little man living in New Brunswick with
outstanding arrest warrants, but alas he wants to "help effect change
in Alberta"! How cute! How is he going to do that?

I speak as a contributing member of Canadian society, a employed
member of society, a taxpayer....David, shave, get a haircut and a
job....stop being a parasite, actually insure your motorcycle so
police won't seize it from you.

If that fails,take "yer imaginary Dan Wesson" and blow yer imaginary
brains out
Posted by Seren at 2:44 PM 0 comments
The Wild Rose Alliance has some very good ideas. After all it is a
"right of centre" political party. I applaud the Wild Rose Alliance
policy and plan to eliminate the Alberta Human Rights Commission. It
is bureaucracy gone mad, and anything they can do or accomplish can be
done in the courts ...with far more effectiveness.

I am a man so I do NOT care if the Alberta Government de-lists or
de-insures abortion in Alberta. If it saves me tax dollars, why not?

The Wild Rose Alliance wants to allow Alberta's marriage commissioners
to refuse to "marry" gays and lesbian or anyone else if it is contrary
to these commissioners "conscience". Again, what a good idea! I am not
a faggot so what do I care?

I am well employed,with Blue Cross and Sun Life health insurance in
addition to Alberta Health Care ...if the privatization of health care
means shorter wait times for me to see specialists, surgery, or
advanced diagnostic proceedures, etc....what a good idea!

The Progressive Conservative Party of Alberta and Government promotes
social programmes such as social assistance and AISH, in fact they
have recently increased the benefits thereof. The Wild Rose Alliance
is promising to review these increase with the view to reform and
reduce them....Tough luck Robin Reid!

The Wild Rose Alliance is committed to the "firewalling of Alberta"
from those Eastern Bastards in the rest of Kanada. Alberta does NOT
need an incompetant police service such as the RCMP to police Alberta
when we can have an Alberta Provincial Police Service.

The Wild Rose Alliance is committed to Alberta's withdrawal from the
Kanada Pension Plan and the creation of a SUSTAINABLE Alberta Pension
Plan. Why shouls I as an Albertan contribute to the pensions of
"people" from New Brunswick?

Danielle Smith, the Wild Rose Alliance are akin to Rick Santorum and
the "merkan" GOP..." Bible in one hand and a Bible in the other.....

The "right" is right! Ya gotta love it! Just be careful what you ask
for, you may get it!
Posted by Seren at 7:47 AM 0 comments
Be careful of what you ask for...you may get it

It is roughly a week into the Alberta election campaign and the "fat
is in the fire." It appears some people including the Wild Rose
Alliance have forgotten some of that Party's policy platforms. Now it
is campaign time and the Wild Rose Alliance and voters are being
reminded of what some of them indeed are.

It has long been a Wild Rose Alliance policy that abortions be
"de-listed" or "de-insured" under Alberta Health Services. Now that
the campaign is in full swing the Wild Rose Alliance appears to have
revised its policy: That it would NOT de-list abortions in Alberta
unless a future "citizen's vote" advises the government to do so.

Now the Wild Rose Alliance has had to "clarify" it's policy regarding
what they call "issues of conscience." Alberta has marriage
commissioners that perform what some would call civil ceremonies. It
again has been a Wild Rose policy of longstanding to permit Alberta
civil servants that are marriage councilors to ignore the Canadian
Charter of Rights and Canadian Law and refuse from marrying some
couples. (Gays, Lesbians atheists, left handed folks etc...)
It is an "issue" that the Wild Rose Alliance does NOT to be reminded
of during an election campaign.

Many years ago the Reform movement, the Reform Party of Canada and
even the Saskatchewan Party in Saskatchewan were born due to the
Conservative Parties NOT being conservative enough to suit many. Are
we seeing the same here in Alberta?

A Wild Rose Alliance government would represent a massive shift to the
right of political consensus in Alberta. I wonder if the demographics
of  Alberta support such a move or Wild Rose Alliance electoral
victory? I personally see the political demographics of Alberta moving
more to the centre, rather than to an "merkan republican" rightist
sort of ideology.

Are Albertans prepared for a Provincial Government that will not obey
the "law of the land" re civil marriage ceremonies? Does Alberta's
women realize that a Wild Rose Alliance government will result in
women NOT having access to abortion.

The Wild Rose Alliance policy regarding health care has always been
nebulous or obscure, deliberately so. Danielle Smith has orderd her
Wild Rose candidates NOT to comment on health care issues this
campaign because the Wild Rose Party is committed to what they call,
the "reform" of health care or privatization of a portion thereof .
Again, the political demographics and consensus in Alberta does NOT
support such a "reform" of health care

The campaign is just a little over a week old and Albertans are being
reminded of Wild Rose Alliance's more "right of centre's" policies. It
appears that the Wild Rose Party is trying to disavow some of them, in
the name of political expediency and electability.

No political party anywhere, should form government for some 40 years
like here in Alberta. Governments require new ideas and perspectives,
not a sense of entitlement and "noblis oblige". But is a more radical
shift to the right an accurate representation of political consensus
in Alberta?

Polls are clear in Alberta, there is no political appetite for private
health care or even "the conversation" as some refer to the debate for
it as.

Have Albertans moved more to the right than the Progressive
Conservative Party of Alberta? I don't think so. But there is a
movement or desire for change in Alberta......

But be careful for what you ask for, you may just get it.


Posted by Seren at 6:17 AM 0 comments
Saturday, April 7, 2012
It seems that Canada and Tory Government has "annoyed" our "merkan
cousins"...again. Less than a week ago Prime Minster Stephen Harper
visited his "two amigos" President Obama and Mexican President Felix
Calderon in Washington.

Now the meetings were the same "photo ops" with nothing of note being
said other than the same tri-lateral platitudes about co-operation and
free markets. But what was interesting, was Prime Minister Harper's
remarks at Harvard's Wilkens Institute of Canada and US Studies.

He told a "packed house" of "merkan" academics and conservative "heavy
hitters", that Canada was NOT interested in the US policy of  North
American Energy Security...but interested in a Canadian Energy and
Economic Security policy. So the Northern Gateway Pipeline and future
bitumin or crude sales to China...were every bit as important to
Canada, Canadians, the Canadian economy and our security as sales to
the US. That US energy security was of little interest to
us....."Nations don't have friends, nations have interests.

President Barak Hussine Obama's re-election was or is more important
than the fast approval of the  Keystone Pipeline....So why would
"merkan" energy security be more important to Canada than the
diversification of Canada's commodities trade?

There are many people that say Canada's trade future lies with Asia
and the Pacific Rim rather than with "merka". Amerkan society and
their economy is fast declining. China owns most of "merka's" debt.
What is clear is: Canada's economic security depends on the wholesale
diversification and expansion of its trade with Asia and Latin America
and less dependence with trade with "merka".

But alas our "merkan friends" view Canada as a political and economic
satrap...and we were such. But that is no longer the case...the
world's centre of economic and political gravity is changing....pax
amerka is no longer dominant...amerka's economy is in decline and
despite Canada's and the US economies relative sizes...our economy or
economic power is increasing rather than declining....Do we realy want
to continue to hitch Canada's economy to amerka's Ass?

"Nations do't have friends...nations have interests"
Posted by Seren at 8:45 AM 0 comments
David Amos and religion

So, are we all "God's Children"? Gays, Lesbians, trangendered and
David Amos et al... are we3 all "God's Children"! So... does or did
Jesus suck cock? Is God or Jesus a fag, or a top or bottom, or an old
Black woman?

Is Jesus or was Jesus a pedophile like David Amos? What mankind does
know about Jesus is: He was and "is"  a Jew....maybe that is why
"kristians" have been killing Jews for centuries?

Now given that gays are born and not made as are pedophiles, lesbians,
blacks asians  etc....Why would we think Jesus or Big Daddy is a
white, hetrosexual old guy with a stringy beard.

Is Jeus or God an "merkan" walking around preaching with a "bible in
one hand and a gun in the other"....Now that's fucked!

Oh Dear now the merkan DHS, CIA, FBI and the dog catchers are out to "git
me".

Can you say SOUCOM David?
Posted by Seren at 8:01 AM 0 comments
Poof, David

Daniel Smith and her Wild Rose Alliance may have "jumped the shark" in
this week of Alberta's General Election campaign. They may well have
stretched their crediblity with the electorate. It is always vital
that one never misrepresents his opinion as a fact. But this week of
the campaign, seems to have brought "sea change" to public opinion in
Alberta.

The Wild Rose Alliance has had to visit or re visit issues it would
rather not. Or "explain" policies it would rather not dwell on. The
Alliance has proposed the idea or re visited Ralph Klein's "Ralph
Bucks" or  oil royalty dividends to citizens. Even in the days of
Ralph Klein's government the idea of "Ralph Bucks" was universally
panned. There are many that say even now that the only people or
sector of the economy they profited from that entitlement were the
province's  weed dealers. So this week essentially what happened, is
the Wild Rose Alliance promised "dividends" when times are "good, and
the Tories promised 2.4 billion more for education.

The spectre of "two tiered" or the "privatization" of health care has
always been a "tip of the iceberg" sort of issue here in Alberta, and
it has once again"reared its ugly head" in this election campaign.
Alberta's Tories have long since recognized the absolute fact that
Alberta's electorate does NOT want any sort of "privatization" or
"hybridization" of universal healthcare. This issue has long been
recognized as a "cmpaign killer" by Alberta's  Tories . But the Wild
Rose Alliance has always said it maintains an "open mind" about the
possiblities of "reforming healthcare". Its policy re healthcare has
always been somewhat nebulous.

As expected in the first week of of the campaign healthcare has become
an issue, and even now the Wild Rose Aliance is "playing defense.

The Wild Rose Alliance now has to "explain" to the Alberta electorate
that it has NO plans to de list or de insure abortions. The Wild Rose
Alliance base is very desirous of such a"reform", but the Alberta
Electorate generally and women specifically are NOT interested in such
a "reform". The fact that the Wild Rose Alliance has to re vist this
issue illustrates the dis-connect betwixt the Wild Rose Party, its
base and the demographics of Alberta.

The demographics of Alberta or its political consensus is moving more
to the" left or centre.". Alberta's population is less homogenized and
more urban than rual. The Wild Rose Alliance is a party which
political ideology is to the "right" of the Progressive Conservative
Party of Alberta.

The Tories, under the leadership of Alisson Redford are moving more to
the political "centre"and attempting to ditch "social issues" or what
the Wild Rose are calling issues of conscience.  This week again the
issue of "consicience" has been raised. Should "marriage commisioners"
be obligated or forced to perform "gay and lesbian " marriages in
Alberta even if it is contrary to these commisioners religious
beliefs. The prevelent consensus in Alberta is ....if you accept the
"King's shilling" you must perform the marriages that are the law of
the land

Whereas Alberta's Tories are attempting to change with or be somewhat
illustrative of the political demographics of the province, the
WildRose Alliance are trying to be more illustrative of attitudes that
seemed acceptable twenty years ago. To this point....I think we have
reached a seminal point in the campaign even though it is only a week
into the thrity day campaign. Or as our Amerikan cousins like to say:
the Wild Rose Alliance has defined itself or more accurately, has been
defined by the Tories.

The Wild Rose Alliance in a move reminincent of the Klein years want
to re-visit the social welfare issue and AISH with a view to
"reforming" them or more accurately reducing costs. Whilst us true
Blue Tories applaud any attempt to do away with social welfare, and
make everyone work each to his or her capacity...that is policy that
won't get you elected in this day. The thought of each and every AISH
and welfare parasite being forced to move to BC is wonderful....but
politically unrealistic nowadays.

I as someone who lives here and has participated in Alberta political
life see: a change in the campaign, or the dialogue with the Alberta
Electorate. I predict a Tory majority government as the Wild Rose
Party becomes more defined as the campaign progresses. Up to now
Allison Reford while showing herself adroit in the use of social media
and electronic politics has also shown herself to be a piss poor
traditional politician....lets hope Albertans see beyond that, come
election day.
.


Posted by Seren at 7:19 AM 1 comments
Wednesday, February 1, 2012
David Amos and the nazi anti-Semites.

David Amos of Fredrickton New Brunswick hates Jews. He loves little
children. He frequents playgrounds and schoolyards looking for
"targets of opportunity" to feed his perverse sexual needs.

There are roughly seven million Jews in Israel and David Amos hates
them all as they are Zionists, to David Amos a "dirty word". David
calls diaspora Jews that have no desire to make aliya or go home,
"True Jews".

David Amos claims that there is a conspiracy of "Jewish Bankers that
are attempting to blow up the world's economy". These are the
"thoughts of he and his friends of Stowm Watch. Vanguard, Republic and
Liberty Radio.

David Amos claims that American Justice authorities attempted to
"render" him to Guantanmo Bay and he had to flee to Canada.

David Amos claims that he is an "ethical whistleblower", but David
Amos has never been employed by government, government agencies, Crown
Coporations, nor even been gainfully employed. So how can he be an
"ethical whistleblower?" But alas David's only information is what he
can google.

David Amos claims to be a part of the investigation and prosecution of
both Bernie Madoff who he claims to be a "zionist" and Whitey Bulger
the mobster.

David Amos has been incarcerated in prison and the Chamlers mental
institution. Whilst David whines about what he claims misuse of tax
dollars...David has never paid taxes in his life...he is a parasite.

New Brunswick police took his Vespa motorscooter away because it was
unregistered, and uninsured.....He is also a registered and convicted
sex offender

Just so you know with whom you are dealing with.
Posted by Seren at 12:11 PM 0 comments


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: <samantha@vueweekly.com>; <ari04@shaw.ca>; <jfunnell@telus.net>;
<law@stevenfoulds.ca>; "danielle"<danielle@wildrosealliance.ca>; "robin
reid"<zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>; "vacman"<vacman@telus.net>
Cc: "ChangeAlbertaEdmonton"<ChangeAlbertaEdmonton@yahoo.ca>;
"ChangeAlbertaCalgary"<ChangeAlbertaCalgary@yahoo.ca>; "Barry Winters"
<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>; "thomas"<thomas@thomasmla.com>; "PREM Premier"
<premier@gov.ab.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:41 PM
Subject: Mr Baconfat and the necons in Alberta were very dumb to try to
spook me with Biker Bullshit by having the lawyer Mikey Baby Suess


This smiling bastard just called me from 778 549 1060 in order piss me
off CORRECT Premier Redford???

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100928/edm_suess_profile_100920/20100928/?hub=EdmontonHome

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:53:41 -0300
Subject: I just talked Brent @ (617) 779-3400 In Beantown about Howie
Carr and Tommy Boy Finneran what they know about Whitey Bulger etc
To: howiecarr@wrko.com, tomfinneran@wrko.com, NewsTips
<NewsTips@turner.com>, minister.industry@ic.gc.ca, stephen
<stephen@downes.ca>
Cc: "Fred.Wyshak"<Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov>, newshour
<newshour@pbs.org>, news-tips <news-tips@nytimes.com>,
"oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "Wayne.Lang"
<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>

Entercom Communications
20 Guest Street
Brighton MA 02135
(617)779-3400

Need I say that this Yankee Bullshit really pissed me off?

http://www.wrko.com/howie

http://www.wrko.com/whitey

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:44:12 -0700
Subject: FW: Clark Kent Ervin should remember me Heres hoping he reads
the pdf file hereto attached and gives me a call ASAP EH POGO? (902
800 0369)
To: askdoj@usdoj.gov, atheists-owner@mailman.srv.ualberta.ca,
bishopfh@rcdiocese-calgary.ab.ca, brian.grocock@nottinghamcity.gov.uk,
brookes.merritt@assembly.ab.ca, calgary.elbow@assembly.ab.ca,
calgary.varsity@assembly.ab.ca, canadian mental health <info@cmha.ca>,
cardston.taberwarner@assembly.ab.ca, chancery@archregina.sk.ca,
chancery@rcdvictoria.org, chca@live.ca, danielle@wildrosealliance.ca,
darla@littlewarriors.ca, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
dbrazeau@justice.gc.ca, deepak@deepakobhrai.com, deputy premier
<brian.manning@gov.ab.ca>, dorothy.brazeau@justice.gc.ca,
editorial@thecanadianpress.com, edmonton.castledowns@assembly.ab.ca,
emaytowin@greenparty.ca, enquirybc@gov.bc.ca, feedback@bmo.com,
feedback@humanrightsfirst.org, finance min <ted.morton@gov.ab.ca>,
fortsaskatchewan.vegreville@assembly.ab.ca, foundation@forzani.com,
generalinfo@ethicscommissioner.ab.ca, ghinfo@gov.bc.ca,
gmagazzeni@ohchr.org, gordon.campbell.mla@leg.bc.ca,
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ida.chong.mla@leg.bc.ca, info@cjc-ccm.gc.ca, info@greenparty.ca,
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info@trc.ca, info@wildrosealliance.ca, infopubs@ainc-inac.gc.ca,
jennifer@jenniferpollock.ca, justice <ray.bodnarek@gov.ab.ca>,
jtrottier@cficanada.ca, kasey@kainaigovernment.org,
letters@economist.com, lew.skjonsby@albertahealthservices.ca,
ltgov@gov.ab.ca, melhurtig@gmail.com, MICHAELLE JEAN GOV GENERAL
<info@gg.ca>, minister_ministre@hc-sc.gc.ca,
minister.industry@ic.gc.ca, mslett@bellabella.net, nichor@parl.gc.ca,
nolan@kainaigovernment.org, obhrad@parl.gc.ca,
office@albertaliberals.com, people stand up
<tonyanderson40@eastlink.ca>, pm@pm.gc.ca, president@po.gov.za,
rblackburn@judicom.ca, privacy.matters@bmo.com, rklein@blgcanada.com,
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sheriff-civil.enforcement@gov.ab.ca,
skinner@democraticunderground.com, stephen.mandel@edmonton.ca,
steve.marissink@gov.ab.ca, stry8993@live.com, supreme court
<reception@scc-csc.gc.ca>, thirdmarch@live.co.kr, toews.v@parl.gc.ca,
toewsv1@parl.gc.ca, trina@calgarydefence.com, waterwarcrimes@gmail.com




> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:20:24 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: Clark Kent Ervin should remember me Heres hoping he reads
> the pdf file hereto attached and gives me a call ASAP EH POGO? (902 800
> 0369)
> From: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> To: dhunter@wcl.american.edu; bob@quitam.com; ryan@taxpayer.net;
> Lobel@LNLlaw.com; henrybanta@aol.com; bsussman@niemanwatchdog.org
> CC: zorroboy2009@hotmail.com; tony@peoplestandup.ca; oig@sec.gov;
> OIG@ftc.gov
>
> The asistants to a couple Yankee FED Inspector Generals swear that
> their bosses have not been recieving my emails Interesting EH? Rest
> assured I just called David Kotz and John Seeba and tried to speak to
> their cousels and neither one would come to the phone However I did
> speak with Cynthia Hogue, Chief Investigator & Counsel to the
> Inspector General whie i was runing in the election of the 39th
> Parliament nearly 5 years ago and introduced her the questionable
> lawyer Barry Bachrach so I was not surprised at her sudden fit of
> shyness now.
>
> http://www.sec-oig.gov/Administration/IG.html
>
> http://www.ftc.gov/oig/contactus.shtm
>
> http://www.wcl.american.edu/faculty/hunter/
>
> http://www.taxpayer.net/about.php?action=staff#ryan
>
> http://www.lnllaw.com/partner-banta.php
>
> http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=ask_this.view&askthisid=402
> Sussman 301 983 1287
> Lobel 202 365 7070
>
> http://www.quitam.com/id19.html
>
> P.S. I loved the Qoute
>
> Qui Tam ("He who sues on behalf of the king as well as for himself")
> is a provision of the Federal Civil False Claims Act that allows a
> private citizen to file a suit in the name of the U.S. Government
> charging fraud by government contractors and other entities who
> receive or use government funds, and share in any money recovered.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:33:50 -0300
> Subject: Clark Kent Ervin should remember me Heres hoping he reads the
> pdf file attached gives me a call ASAP EH POGO? (902 800 0369)
> To: clark.ervin@aspeninstitute.org
> Cc: press@crp.org, pogo@pogo.org, "rick. skinner"<rick.skinner@dhs.gov>
>
> POGO did some interesting editing years ago for the benefit of Norfolk
> count Deputy sherifff Robert F. O'Meara while i was running in the
> election of the 39th Parliament. It is high time to hold them
> accountable for their malicious spin while i run for public office
> again.
>
> http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2005/03/former_dhs_insp.html
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:23:08 -0300
> Subject: Heres hoping Sign of the time reads this and gives me a call
> ASAP (902 800 0369)
> To: SOTT@sott.net
> Cc: foreign <foreign@stockmarket.gov.ua>, foreigneditor
> <foreigneditor@independent.co.uk>, foreign <foreign@nytimes.com>
>
> Need i say I am impressed by this young lady words? You published them
> as well correct?
>
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/pr/valedictorian-against-schooling.html
>
> http://www.sott.net/page/1-About-Sott-net
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:22:14 -0300
> Subject: Attention Carrie Dwyer I just called and left a voicemail for
> you and then had a long talk with one of Schwab's advocates (902 800
> 0369)
> To: carrie.dwyer@schwab.com, "Dean.Buzza"<Dean.Buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> oig <oig@sec.gov>, OIG <OIG@cap-police.senate.gov>, OIG <OIG@ftc.gov>
> Cc: "Bernard.LeBlanc"<Bernard.LeBlanc@gnb.ca>, "rick.hancox"
> <rick.hancox@nbsc-cvmnb.ca>, "Fred. Pretorius"
> <Fred.Pretorius@gov.yk.ca>, tucker <tucker@mises.com>
>
> That should prove to Charles Schwab that I know how to use the phone
> and read and put two and two together after being well awhere of who i
> called and why. heres hoping that you know how to do the same.
>
> http://www.aboutschwab.com/governance/management/dwyer.html
>
> www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/s71004/dwyer63004.pdf
>
> Just Dave
> By Location Visit Detail
> Visit 11,613
> Domain Name schwab.com ? (Commercial)
> IP Address 162.93.249.# (Charles Schwab & Co.)
> ISP Charles Schwab & Co.
> Location Continent : North America
> Country : United States (Facts)
> State : California
> City : San Francisco
> Lat/Long : 37.7909, -122.4017 (Map)
> Language English (U.S.) en-us
> Operating System Microsoft WinXP
> Browser Internet Explorer 7.0
> Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727;
> .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.1)
> Javascript version 1.3
> Monitor Resolution : 1280 x 1024
> Color Depth : 32 bits
> Time of Visit Aug 11 2010 4:56:13 pm
> Last Page View Aug 11 2010 4:56:13 pm
> Visit Length 0 seconds
> Page Views 1
> Referring URL http://www.google.co...x_jgCg&start=30&sa=N
> Search Engine google.com
> Search Words keker "market timing"
> Visit Entry Page http://davidamos.blo...ankee-arseholes.html
> Visit Exit Page http://davidamos.blo...ankee-arseholes.html
> Out Click
> Time Zone UTC-8:00
> Visitor's Time Aug 11 2010 12:56:13 pm
> Visit Number 11,613
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:17:32 -0300
> Subject: Hey Robin trust that Rotten Ralphy and many lawyers with BLG
> knew of my concerns about high finance long before the mindless Yanke
> Nancy Pelosi ever did (902 800 0369)
> To: rklein@blgcanada.com, BCarr-Harris@blgcanada.com,
> dscott@blgcanada.com, garth@garthturner.com, pthompson@blgcanada.com,
> sweir@blgcanada.com, plamom@sen.parl.gc.ca, olived@sen.parl.gc.ca,
> iwhitehall@heenan.ca, neil.finkelstein@blakes.com,
> jchretien@heenan.ca, rheenan@heenan.ca, bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com,
> broy@ogilvyrenault.com, clementgroleau@videotron.ca,
> ghunter@blgcanada.com, krisaustin <krisaustin@panb.org>, fundytides
> <fundytides@gmail.com>, jackblood <jackblood@hotmail.com>, "byron.
> james"<byron.james@gnb.ca>, "Robert. Jones"<Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>,
> Daniel.Conley@state.ma.us, "lgold.blcanada"<lgold.blcanada@b-l.com>,
> lgold <lgold@burnslev.com>, "shawn. graham"<shawn.graham@gnb.ca>,
> bbixby <bbixby@burnslev.com>
> Cc: jake.harms@justice.gc.ca, "Stephane. vaillancourt"
> <Stephane.vaillancourt@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, robin reid
> <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, pelosi@mail.house.gov
>
> A simple search of my email account can harvest many emails to various
> lawyers within BLG in order to prove my simple statement to be true in
> spades
>
> FYI Because of your email I jcalled both Rotten Raphy's and Pelosi's
> offices again to remind them that i was still alive and kicking like
> hell. As per standard operating proceduce the Yankees were rude and
> the Canadians were nice. However they both played as dumb as posts.
> Surprise surprise eh?
>
> "Rep. Nancy Pelosi"<pelosi@mail.house.gov> wrote:
> From: "Rep. Nancy Pelosi"<pelosi@mail.house.gov>
> To: <motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Reply from Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi
> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 20:04:37 -0500
>
> Thank you for contacting my office.
>
> Congressional courtesy prevents me from replying to emails if I cannot
> determine that you are a constituent of mine.
>
> If you are a resident of the 8th District of California, please contact my
> office in Washington, DC at (202) 225-4965 to be added to our database.
>
> If you are not a resident of Califoria's 8th Congressional District and
> are contacting me in regard to my role as Democratic Leader, please visit
> http://www.housedemocrats.gov.
>
> The very nasty Irish Catholic Democrat in Beantown should recall this
> email exchange I don't think he liked me suing the long Cardinal Law
> and his buddy the Attorney General Tommy Baby Reilly EH Danny Boy
> Conley?
>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:44:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Fuck you Danny Boy Conley You are the very Yankee bastard
> that
> falsely imprisoned me
> To: "Conley, Daniel (SUF)" Daniel.Conley@state.ma.us
>
> You illegally summoned me across an international border while I was
> running for a seat in Parlaiment and imprisoned me without Bail, or
> arresting me or even reading me my rights. You held me under the
> charges of "other" asshole.
>
> *"Conley, Daniel (SUF)" Daniel.Conley@state.ma.us* wrote:
>
> Are you sure you have the right Dan Conley? I'm the DA in Boston, MA
> and I don't recognize your name at all. If our office did have a case
> against you, when was it, what court was it prosecuted in, and what
> was the charge?
>
> Dan Conley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos
> To: Conley, Daniel (SUF) ; BBACHRACH@bowditch.com ; gatzunis, Tom (red) ;
> lcampenella@ledger.com ; lynchstowing@attglobal.net ;
> Kandalaw@mindspring.com ; wcummings@ibc.ca ; wickedwanda3@adelphia.net ;
> Conley, Daniel (DAA) ; bbixby@burnslev.com ; drosenblatt@burnslev.com ;
> smacdonald@elite.bm ; jmurray@ibc.ca
> CC: kmdickson@comcast.net ; ruby@ruby-edwardh.com ; Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca ;
> McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca ; smurphy@ctv.ca ;
> martine.turcotte@bell.ca ; premier@gov.ns.ca ; jdewolfe@ns.sympatico.ca ;
> morse.mla@ns.sympatico.ca ; parentma@gov.ns.ca ; rodneym@ns.sympatico.ca ;
> rrussellmla@ns.sympatico.ca ; barnetbe@gov.ns.ca ;
> ronchisholmmla@auracom.com ; bill.langille@ns.sympatico.ca ;
> mlaclarke@ns.sympatico.ca ; Peter.Christie@ns.sympatico.ca ;
> dentreca@gov.ns.ca ; a.macisaac@ns.sympatico.ca ; rhurlburt@auracom.com ;
> hinesgb@gov.ns.ca ; educmin@gov.ns.ca ; codonnellmla@ns.sympatico.ca ;
> kgmorashmla@ns.aliantzinc.ca ; Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca ; lrikleen@Bowditch.com
> ;
> lliss@rubinrudman.com ; John.Conyers@mail.house.gov ;
> smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ; dan@djflynn.com ; david.saffran@ipsos-reid.com ;
> adams_sammon@msn.com ; Darrell.Bricker@ipsos-na.com ;
> Kathryn.PrudHomme@uOttawa.ca ; duffy@ctv.ca ; nwnews@cknw.com ;
> sarah.mann@rci.rogers.com ; tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com ;
> dwatch@web.net ; info@afterdowningstreet.org ; trvl@hotmail.com ;
> Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; fbinhct@leo.gov ; dc@thepen.us ;
> patrick.fitzgerald@usdoj.gov ; Russell_Feingold@feingold.senate.gov ;
> stephen.cutler@wilmerhale.com ; robert.bagnall@wilmerhale.com ;
> governorlynch@nh.gov ; mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ;
> publicrelations@cubanmission.com ; rusun@un.int ; france-presse@un.int ;
> uk@un.int ; contact@germany-un.org ; belanger.jean-daniel@psio-bifp.gc.ca
> ;
> kmearn@mpdmilton.org ; letter@globe.com ; ombud@globe.com ;
> Press@devalpatrick.com ; plamom@sen.parl.gc.ca ; olived@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
> iwhitehall@heenan.ca ; neil.finkelstein@blakes.com ; jchretien@heenan.ca ;
> rheenan@heenan.ca ; bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com ; broy@ogilvyrenault.com ;
> clementgroleau@videotron.ca ; ghunter@blgcanada.com ; kinsella@stu.ca ;
> mcomeau@stu.ca ; shawn.graham@gnb.ca ; alltrue@nl.rogers.com ;
> Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca ; bmosher@mosherchedore.ca
> Sent: Sun Jun 11 17:20:09 2006
> Subject: Fuck you Danny Boy Conley You are the very Yankee bastard
> that falsely imprisoned me
>
> "Conley, Daniel (SUF)" wrote:
>
> Mr. Amos,
>
> Would you be so kind as to remove me from your distribution list.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Dan Conley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos
> To: asmith@herald.ca ; murrayj@mobility.blackberry.net ;
> BBACHRACH@bowditch.com ; gatzunis, Tom (red) ; lcampenella@ledger.com ;
> lynchstowing@attglobal.net ; Kandalaw@mindspring.com ; wcummings@ibc.ca ;
> wickedwanda3@adelphia.net ; Conley, Daniel (DAA) ; bbixby@burnslev.com ;
> drosenblatt@burnslev.com ; smacdonald@elite.bm ; jmurray@ibc.ca
> CC: kmdickson@comcast.net ; ruby@ruby-edwardh.com ; Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca ;
> McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca ; smurphy@ctv.ca ;
> martine.turcotte@bell.ca ; premier@gov.ns.ca ; jdewolfe@ns.sympatico.ca ;
> morse.mla@ns.sympatico.ca ; parentma@gov.ns.ca ; rodneym@ns.sympatico.ca ;
> rrussellmla@ns.sympatico.ca ; barnetbe@gov.ns.ca ;
> ronchisholmmla@auracom.com ; bill.langille@ns.sympatico.ca ;
> mlaclarke@ns.sympatico.ca ; Peter.Christie@ns.sympatico.ca ;
> dentreca@gov.ns.ca ; a.macisaac@ns.sympatico.ca ; rhurlburt@auracom.com ;
> hinesgb@gov.ns.ca ; educmin@gov.ns.ca ; codonnellmla@ns.sympatico.ca ;
> kgmorashmla@ns.aliantzinc.ca ; Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca ; lrikleen@Bowditch.com
> ;
> lliss@rubinrudman.com ; John.Conyers@mail.house.gov ;
> smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ; dan@djflynn.com ; david.saffran@ipsos-reid.com ;
> adams_sammon@msn.com ; Darrell.Bricker@ipsos-na.com ;
> Kathryn.PrudHomme@uOttawa.ca ; duffy@ctv.ca ; nwnews@cknw.com ;
> sarah.mann@rci.rogers.com ; tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com ;
> dwatch@web.net ; info@afterdowningstreet.org ; trvl@hotmail.com ;
> Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; fbinhct@leo.gov ; dc@thepen.us ;
> patrick.fitzgerald@usdoj.gov ; Russell_Feingold@feingold.senate.gov ;
> stephen.cutler@wilmerhale.com ; robert.bagnall@wilmerhale.com ;
> governorlynch@nh.gov ; mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ;
> publicrelations@cubanmission.com ; rusun@un.int ; france-presse@un.int ;
> uk@un.int ; contact@germany-un.org ; belanger.jean-daniel@psio-bifp.gc.ca
> ;
> kmearn@mpdmilton.org ; letter@globe.com ; ombud@globe.com ;
> Press@devalpatrick.com ; plamom@sen.parl.gc.ca ; olived@sen.parl.gc.ca ;
> iwhitehall@heenan.ca ; neil.finkelstein@blakes.com ; jchretien@heenan.ca ;
> rheenan@heenan.ca ; bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com ; broy@ogilvyrenault.com ;
> clementgroleau@videotron.ca ; ghunter@blgcanada.com ; kinsella@stu.ca ;
> mcomeau@stu.ca ; shawn.graham@gnb.ca ; alltrue@nl.rogers.com ;
> Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca ; bmosher@mosherchedore.ca
> Sent: Sun Jun 11 17:09:22 2006
> Subject: Deja Vu anyone?
>
> "Bachrach, Barry A." wrote:
>
> From: "Bachrach, Barry A."
> To: 'David Amos'
> Subject: RE: Fwd: Fw: Re:Mr Scott's second.
> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:47:40 -0500
>
> i see you are on the attack. good.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:36:40 -0300
> Subject: Mr Devlin I just called a lot Profs who are concerned about
> the nonsense that happened in Toronto during te G 20 meeting correct?
> (902 800 0369)
> To: robert.armstrong@csps-epfc.gc.ca, dbell@unb.ca, nobyrne@unb.ca,
> laforest@unb.ca, stephen.coughlan@dal.ca, richard.devlin@dal.ca,
> jstribopoulos@osgoode.yorku.ca
> Cc: rmcairns@uottawa.ca, Marie-Eve.Sylvestre@uottawa.ca,
> Blair.Crew@uottawa.ca, ftanguay-renaud@osgoode.yorku.ca
>
> From: Annie Therriault <Annie.Therriault@csps-efpc.gc.ca>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:22:37 -0400
> Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Re Ethical government blogging etc
> If Stockwell Day or any of his underlings wish to dispute the fact
> that that does not exist my number is (902 800 0369)
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> Hello, I will be away from the office until Aug 23. For immediate
> assistance, please contact Robert Armstrong at 902-426-7243 or
> robert.armstrong@csps-epfc.gc.ca.
> Thank you!
>
> Bonjour, Je serai absente du bureau jusqu'au 23 août 2010. Pour une
> aide immédiate, vous pouvez contacter Robert Armstrong au 902-426-7243
> ou robert.armstrong@csps-efpc.gc.ca. Merci!
>
> Just Dave
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>
> Law professors call for G20 inquiry
> By admin on Jul 20, 2010 in World News
> Following is an open letter, signed by 40 law professors, calling upon
> the government to call a pubic inquiry into police tactics used during
> the G20 summit in Toronto…
>
> Minister Toews, We are writing you to express our dismay regarding the
> accounts of the conduct of the G8- G20 Integrated Security Unit
> (“ISU”) during the G20 summit recently held in Toronto, and to enjoin
> you to take positive steps to ensure that civil liberties in Canada
> are not eroded in the context of political demonstrations.
>
> In our capacities as law professors and attorneys, but especially as
> citizens, we are extremely concerned about the reports of widespread
> infringements of civil liberties allegedly perpetrated by members of
> the ISU and urge you to initiate an independent inquiry into the
> searches, seizures, and arrests effected in the context of the G20
> demonstrations, as well as the conditions of detention of those
> arrested.
>
> Unfortunately, the mass arrests effected during the G20 appear to be
> part of a trend towards the criminalization of dissent in Canada.
>
> Canadian police forces resort increasingly to mass arrests during
> political demonstrations, only to release the protestors – many of
> them without charge – after the protested event. Though the police
> have the responsibility of arresting individuals directly engaged in
> property damage (whether during a protest or not), this in no way
> justifies recourse to mass arrests.
>
> This tactic is not only a clear infringement of the freedoms of
> opinion, expression, association and assembly, but also a form of
> arbitrary detention that violates the presumption of innocence.
>
> In 2005, having noted that Canadian police engage in such large-scale
> arrests, and that they are arbitrary within the meaning of the
> International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the Human Rights
> Committee of the United Nations exhorted Canada to “…ensure that the
> right of persons to peacefully participate in social protests is
> respected, and ensure that only those committing criminal offences
> during demonstrations are arrested.”
>
> There were over 900 arrests made during the G20 summit and we
> understand that the overwhelming majority of those arrested were later
> released without charge. These facts support the view that Canada has
> disregarded the UN Committee’s exhortation.
>
> In addition to the mass arrests, reports from independent observers
> such as those of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, indicate
> that ISU members routinely detained and searched citizens without
> reasonable grounds to do so.
>
> Certainly, if the available video evidence and the many first hand
> accounts reported in both the traditional and alternative media are
> representative of ISU tactics, these rights violations number in the
> thousands. In at least some reported cases, ISU members purported to
> have been specifically granted the power by a regulation adopted under
> Ontario’s Public Works Protection Act to detain and search citizens
> without reasonable grounds.
>
> As you know, Toronto police chief Bill Blair later admitted that ISU
> members were mistaken as to the powers conferred to them under that
> regulation.
>
> Furthermore, the reports of the conditions in the makeshift detention
> centre set up on Eastern Avenue are extremely troubling. Credible
> accounts of overcrowding, inadequate supplies of food and fresh water
> and threats of abuse by ISU members, including sexual assault of
> female detainees, lead us to believe that the right to security of the
> person of detainees was violated.
>
> Detainees were also apparently denied their rights to counsel and to
> be informed of the reason for their detention.
>
> The rights set out in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms are
> not optional. In a free and democratic society, it is paramount that
> civil liberties be respected by police, even when it would be
> inconvenient for them to do so.
>
> Minister Toews, we cannot reconcile the numerous eyewitness and media
> accounts of the G20 protests with your statement on June 28, 2010,
> that the ISU acted with “professionalism” and thanking ISU members for
> their “exceptional work”. We therefore call upon you to initiate a
> full and independent inquiry into the actions of the ISU during the
> G20.
>
> Signed,
>
> Finn Makela, Assitant Professor, Faculty of Law, Université de Sherbrooke
> Sharryn J. Aiken, Associate Dean (Graduate Studies and Research) and
> Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, Queen’s University
> Sibel Ataogul, Attorney, Melançon, Marceau, Grenier et Sciortino
> (Montreal)
> D. G. Bell, Professor, Faculty of Law, UNB–Fredericton
> Pierre Bosset, Professor, Faculty of Political Science and Law,
> Université du Québec à Montréal
> Bruce Broomhall, Professor, Faculty of Political Science and Law,
> Université du Québec à Montréal
> Pierre Brun, Attorney, Melançon, Marceau, Grenier et Sciortino (Montreal)
> Marie–France Bureau, Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, Université
> de Sherbrooke
> Catherine Choquette, Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, Université
> de Sherbrooke
> Michael Cohen, Attorney, Melançon, Marceau, Grenier et Sciortino
> (Montreal)
> Steve Coughlan, Professor, Schulich School of Law, Dalhousie University
> Blair Crew, Review Counsel, Criminal Division, University of Ottawa
> Community Legal Clinic, Faculty of Law (Common Law Section)
> Hugo Cyr, Professor, Faculty of Political Science and Law, Université
> du Québec à Montréal
> Maneesha Deckha, Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, University of
> Victoria
> Annick Desjardins, Attorney, Human Rights Service, Canadian Union of
> Public Employees
> Julie Desrosiers, Professor, Faculty of Law, Université Laval
> Mathieu Devinat, Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, Université de
> Sherbrooke
> Richard Devlin, Associate Dean (Graduate Studies and Research) and
> Professor, Schulich School of Law, University Research Professor,
> Dalhousie University
> Brenda Gunn, Assistant Professor, Robson Hall Law School, University
> of Manitoba.
> Freya Kodar, Assistant Professor, Faculty of Law, University of Victoria
> Jasminka Kalajdzic, Assistant Professor, Faculty of Law, University of
> Windsor
> Fannie Lafontaine, Assistant Professor, Faculty of Law, Université Laval
> J. Chris Levy, Professor, Faculty of Law, University of Calgary
> Alexandra Law, Attorney (Montreal)
> Jean-Frédérick Ménard, Assistant Director, Quebec Research Centre of
> Private and Comparative Law
> Nicole O’Byrne, Assistant Professor, Faculty of Law, University of New
> Brunswick
> Jacques Papy, Attorney (Montreal)
> Steven Penney, Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, University of Alberta
> Patricia Peppin, Professor, Faculty of Law. Queen’s University
> Melanie Randall, Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, The University
> of Western Ontario
> Denise Réaume, Professor, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto
> Annie Rochette, Professor, Faculty of Political Science and Law,
> Université du Québec à Montréal
> Simon Roy, Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, Université de Sherbrooke
> Giuseppe Sciortino, Attorney, Melançon, Marceau, Grenier et Sciortino
> (Montreal)
> Elizabeth Sheehy, Professor, Faculty of Law, University of Ottawa
> James Stribopoulos, Associate Professor, Osgoode Hall Law School
> Don Stuart, Professor, Faculty of Law, Queen’s University
> Marie-Eve Sylvestre, Associate Professor, Faculty of Law (Civil Law
> Section), University of Ottawa
> François Tanguay-Renaud, Professor and Acting Director, Nathanson
> Centre on Transnational Human Rights, Crime, and Security, Osgoode
> Hall Law School
> Robert Tétrault, Professor, Faculty of Law, Université de Sherbrooke
> Édith Vézina, Notary, Assistant Professor, Faculty of Law, Université
> de Sherbrooke
> Rosemary Cairns Way, Professor, Faculty of Law (Common Law Section),
> University of Ottawa
> Larry C. Wilson, Professor, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:22:00 -0300
> Subject: Re Ethical government blogging etc If Stockwell Day or any of
> his underlings wish to dispute the fact that that does not exist my
> number is (902 800 0369)
> To: annie.therriault@csps-efpc.gc.ca, info@csps-efpc.gc.ca,
> "Stockwell.Day"<Stockwell.Day@international.gc.ca>,
> guy.mckenzie@csps-efpc.gc.ca, lecompte.sylvie@psic-ispc.gc.ca
> Cc: robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, tony
> <tony@peoplestandup.ca>, Byron Prior <alltrue@nl.rogers.com>,
> advocacycollective <advocacycollective@yahoo.com>,
> "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, Richard Harris
> <injusticecoalition@hotmail.com>
>
> http://www.psic-ispc.gc.ca/quicklinks_liensrapides/newsreleases_communiques-eng.aspx?id=17
>
> The Public Sector Integrity Commissioner releases second Annual Report
> The Public Sector Integrity Commissioner releases second Annual Report
>
> OTTAWA, April 29, 2009 – Public Sector Integrity Commissioner
> Christiane Ouimet today released her second annual report to
> Parliament, covering the 2008-09 fiscal year. The report is built
> around the theme of "Building Trust Together: A Shared
> Responsibility".
>
> "Success in implementing the Act will come from the efforts of a large
> number of people working together. It is only if everyone – my Office,
> the Minister responsible, Parliamentarians, the central agencies,
> leaders of organizations, unions, senior and middle managers, and
> indeed all public servants – play their parts that we will succeed,"
> said Commissioner Ouimet.
>
> The Public Servants Disclosure Protection Act has been in force since
> April 2007. It provides a mechanism for disclosing information about
> wrongdoings committed in the public sector and for protecting the
> persons who make disclosures. The Office of the Public Sector
> Integrity Commissioner is responsible for implementing the Act.
>
> The second Annual Report of the Office of the Public Sector Integrity
> Commissioner looks at the integrity challenges faced by small
> agencies, boards and commissions, as well as those faced by Crown
> corporations. It briefly describes the operational environment of
> these organizations and their specific vulnerability. It suggests
> avenues and possible tools for solution.
>
> The report also provides an overview of four serious cases that were
> brought to the attention of the Office of the Public Sector Integrity
> Commissioner over the past year, as well as some guiding principles
> that emerged from these cases. The Office's approach reflects its
> commitment to conduct investigations fairly and informally, and to
> work with the public sector to help prevent wrongdoing and to ensure
> it is properly addressed when it occurs.
>
> In addition, the report includes a section on the fears of public
> servants to come forward, an overview of the Office's prevention
> initiatives and liaison activities, as well as a report on a symposium
> held in September 2008 which brought together key players in the
> integrity field. The Office of the Public Sector Integrity
> Commissioner is also starting to benchmark Canada's disclosure regime
> against countries with similar systems.
>
> "Strong public institutions are always important to the well-being of
> Canadians but never more so than in times of economic uncertainty",
> said Commissioner Ouimet. The Office of the Public Sector Integrity
> Commissioner is committed to pursuing its work with the goal of
> contributing to strong public institutions and of enhancing the
> confidence of citizens in those institutions and in the integrity of
> public servants.
>
> For more information about the Office and the Annual Report, please
> see the attached backgrounder or visit the Office of the Public Sector
> Integrity Commissioner website: www.psic-ispc.gc.ca.
>
>
> http://www.csps-efpc.gc.ca/eve/air/arc/arc09-eng.asp
>
> Guy Mc Kenzie
> Deputy Minister/President
> 373 Sussex Drive, Block A
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> K1N 6Z2
> Telephone: 613-992-8165
> Fax: 613-943-1038
> guy.mckenzie@csps-efpc.gc.ca
>
>
> January 15, 2009 | 8:30 a.m. to 9:45 a.m. (ET)
>
> Government Blogging - Best Practices and Tips for Success
>
> Language: English
>
> How we communicate as a society is rapidly changing. There are
> currently over 200 million blogs on the Internet: 1.6 million new
> posts each day, 18 each second. It was only a matter of time before
> someone realized the tremendous potential for citizen engagement that
> effective blogging can bring.
>
> The revolution of social networks and blogging is coming to
> government. Join Mike Kujawski as he present the latest examples of
> effective government blogs in Canada and around the world. He will
> also provide you with10 tips for blogging success as learned through
> his own experience and numerous interviews with well-known bloggers.
>
> Speaker: Mike Kujawski is an enthusiastic marketing professional,
> business strategist and entrepreneur with a passion for leveraging new
> digital marketing technologies and trends. In 2005, Mike helped launch
> the Centre of Excellence for Public Sector Marketing (CEPSM), where he
> is now the lead Project Manager and Strategist. His most recent tasks
> at CEPSM have involved the development of comprehensive marketing
> strategies for the Department of National Defence, the Public Service
> Commission and the City of Burlington.
>
>
> Canada School of Public Service
> 777 Main Street, 1st Floor
> Moncton, Nouveau-Brunswick E1C 1E9
> Phone: 506-851-6775
> Facsimile: 506-851-3881
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:58:07 -0300
> Subject: I swear the law profs in Canada' University are the dumbest
> and the funniest lawyers in Canada Call and argue me if you dare I
> have been waiting 5 years EH Alan Rock? (902 800 0369)
> To: Michael.Geist@uottawa.ca, Stephane.Emard-Chabot@uottawa.ca,
> pierre.mercier@uottawa.ca, president@uottawa.ca
> Cc: pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "bruce.alec"<bruce.alec@gmail.com>, "nb.
> premier"<nb.premier@gmail.com>, nbpolitico <nbpolitico@gmail.com>,
> "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "spinks08@hotmail.com"
> <spinks08@hotmail.com>, Byron Prior <alltrue@nl.rogers.com>, tony
> <tony@peoplestandup.ca>, IgnatM <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>
>
> We can all trust that Michael Geist knows about as much about the
> Internet and ethical conduct as IGGY does EH Stevey Boy Harper?
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/search?q=amos
>
> http://davidamos.blogspot.com/
>
> Just Dave
> By Location Visit Detail
> Visit 11,605
> Domain Name rogers.com ? (Commercial)
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> Country : Canada (Facts)
> State/Region : Ontario
> City : Orillia
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> Visit Number 11,605
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:46:30 -0300
> Subject: I havve called and talked many of your people Correct? (902 800
> 0369)
> To: eastew1@parl.gc.ca, riding@chuckstrahl.com,
> Myles.Kirvan@justice.gc.ca, alan.kessel@dfait-maeci.gc.ca,
> alan.kessel@international.gc.ca, yves_cote@justice.gc.ca
> Cc: admin@ajc-ajj.com, mmendicino@ajc-ajj.ca, sguttmann@ajc-ajj.ca,
> aprcwa@interbaun.com
>
> Wayne Easter needs to learn to pay attention EH Mr Kessel and Mr Kirvan?
>
> Whereas none of you would talk to mean old me perhaps you should
> Google a simple expression "Nobody will say my name" to find an
> interesting old blog or checkout the following link and the rest of
> this email with its attachment then ask yourself who called me back
> and why
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/15904734/CFIA-Threat-2
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 12:03:17 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: I am on the phone to some of you people right now (902 800
> 0369)
> To: wshdchomcorrespond@international.gc.ca
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 12:01:19 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: I am on the phone to some of you people right now (902 800
> 0369)
> To: wshdchomcorrespond@internatioal.gc.ca
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:32:28 -0300
> Subject: I am on the phone to some of you people right now (902 800 0369)
> To: OIPRD@ontario.ca, org@erc-cee.gc.ca, org@cpc-cpp.gc.ca
> Cc: imacdonald@irpp.org, "Paul. Harpelle"<Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>,
> "Harper.S@parl.gc.ca"<Harper.S@parl.gc.ca>, bairdj
> <bairdj@parl.gc.ca>, toewsv1 <toewsv1@parl.gc.ca>
>
> Interesting Mr Macdonald but trust that you don't know everything
>
> http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Parliament+fate+rests+hands+John+Baird/3376020/story.html
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:24:00 -0300
> Subject: RE: I called most of your offices today I did many times then
> sued many people in 2002. Now who should I take it up with the dumb
> corrupt cop LaFrance or the QUEEN? The Economy is bad all over
> To: jcouto@oacp.ca, privateoffice@attorneygeneral.gsi.gov.uk,
> norman@inksterincorporated.com, rmordenassoc@rogers.com,
> jane.todd@nottinghamcity.gov.uk, lilian.greenwood.mp@parliament.uk,
> allengw@parliament.uk, imulgrew@vancouversun.com,
> BillRobinsonCanada@yahoo.ca, john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca,
> chris.leslie@parliament.uk, louise.thompson@nottinghamcity.gov.uk,
> tim.killam@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, sandra.conlin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> Raf.Souccar@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Pat.McDonell@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> Mike.Cabana@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Francois.Bidal@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Cc: rob.lafrance@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "Wayne.Lang"
> <Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "steve.graham"
> <steve.graham@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Rod.Knecht"
> <Rod.Knecht@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Ken.Zielke"<Ken.Zielke@gov.ab.ca>,
> "mike.mcdonell"<mike.mcdonell@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
> IgnatM <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>, LaytoJ <LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joe Couto <jcouto@oacp.ca>
> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 09:38:17 -0400
> Subject: RE: I called most of your offices today
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> Sir, thank you for forwarding this info to me. I did review it as
> promised. The OACP is a professional association for police leaders in
> Ontario. We do not address operational matters. Your issues need to be
> taken up with local law enforcement organizations.
>
> Regards.
>
> J.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:39:12 -0300
> Subject: I just called about the Toronto Star (902 800 0369)
> To: cam.harvey@duke.edu
> Cc: jtravers <jtravers@thestar.ca>, fornat@thestar.ca
>
> http://www.torstar.com/corp_directors.php
>
> http://www.duke.edu/~charvey/
>
> http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/840474
>
> http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/afghanmission/article/840415
>
> National Editor: Tim Harper
> Phone: 416-869-4911
> Fax: 416-869-4324
> Email: fornat@thestar.ca
>
> If anyone should understand my concerns it is you Mr Harvey
>
> Short biography of Campbell R. Harvey
> Campbell R. Harvey is the J. Paul Sticht Professor of International
> Business at the Fuqua School of Business, Duke University and a
> Research Associate of the National Bureau of Economic Research in
> Cambridge, Massachusetts. He is also Editor of The Journal of Finance.
>
> Professor Harvey obtained his doctorate at the University of Chicago
> in business finance. He has served on the faculties of the Stockholm
> School of Economics, the Helsinki School of Economics, and the
> Graduate School of Business at the University of Chicago. He has also
> been a visiting scholar at the Board of Governors of the Federal
> Reserve System. He was awarded an honorary doctorate from Svenska
> Handelsh�gskolan in Helsinki.
>
> Harvey received the 2007 Graham and Dodd Award for the best paper
> published in the Financial Analysts Journal. He has also received five
> Graham and Dodd Scrolls for excellence in financial writing from the
> CFA Institute and three Roger F. Murray Prizes from the Institute for
> Research in Quantitative Finance (Q-Group). He has published over 100
> scholarly articles on the implications of changing risk and the
> dynamics of risk premiums for tactical asset allocation in
> international settings.
>
> Harvey is an internationally recognized expert in portfolio
> management, asset allocation, the cost of capital, and global risk
> management. He has served or still serves as a consultant or principal
> to some of the world�s leading asset management and consulting firms.
>
> Harvey is the Editor of The Journal of Finance � the leading
> scientific journal in his field and one of the premier journals in the
> economic profession through 2012. He is the past-President of the
> Western Finance Association and serves on both the Board of Directors
> and the Executive Committee of the American Finance Association.
>
> Harvey is a content pioneer on the Internet. In 2001, he successfully
> conducted the first live Webcast of his Global Asset Allocation and
> Stock Selection course. His website was recently named one of the
> �Best of The Web� in Forbes Magazine. His hypertextual financial
> glossary is used by The New York Times, Forbes, Bloomberg, The
> Washington Post, CNNMoney and Yahoo to name a few of the sites. The
> glossary, which is the most comprehensive in the world, contains over
> 8,000 terms and over 18,000 internal links. The book version of the
> glossary, The New York Times Dictionary of Money and Investing
> (coauthored with Pulitzer Prize winner, Gretchen Morgenson) was
> published in 2002.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 02:31:01 -0300
> Subject: I called most of your offices today
> To: privateoffice@attorneygeneral.gsi.gov.uk,
> norman@inksterincorporated.com, rmordenassoc@rogers.com,
> "mike.mcdonell"<mike.mcdonell@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> jane.todd@nottinghamcity.gov.uk, lilian.greenwood.mp@parliament.uk,
> allengw@parliament.uk, imulgrew@vancouversun.com, "Ken.Zielke"
> <Ken.Zielke@gov.ab.ca>, BillRobinsonCanada@yahoo.ca,
> john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca, jcouto@oacp.ca, chris.leslie@parliament.uk,
> louise.thompson@nottinghamcity.gov.uk
> Cc: rob.lafrance@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "Wayne.Lang"
> <Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Rod.Knecht"<Rod.Knecht@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> tim.killam@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "sandra.conlin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"
> <Sandra.Conlin@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Raf.Souccar@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> Pat.McDonell@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Mike.Cabana@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> Francois.Bidal@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "steve.graham"
> <steve.graham@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>
> This is just one of the emails I promised to your assistants that I
> would send. I tried to explain my concerns but your people didn't care
> and implied that their bosses know everything so if you have any
> questions now before I sue the CROWN perhaps you should call me back
> on your time and dime if you can't figure out this simple collection
> of emails EH? 902 800 0369
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 22:22:57 -0300
> Subject: Rabbi Dovid Weiss and I just talked again. He and his Iranian
> friends can deal with the zionists on their own without me EH Mr Zabel?
> To: info@nkusa.org, Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>,
> executive@salamiran.org
> Cc: "william.zabel"<william.zabel@srz.com>,
> "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"<william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> "rick. skinner"<rick.skinner@dhs.gov>, RadicalPress
> <radical@radicalpress.com>, WaterWarCrimes <waterwarcrimes@gmail.com>,
> tracy <tracy@jatam.org>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
> "Duane.Rousselle"<Duane.Rousselle@unb.ca>, advocacycollective
> <advocacycollective@yahoo.com>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=R-r04SQ97_Q&feature=related
>
> http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=oUaxH2SicCY&feature=related
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqBJTBIUtM8
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=YBNMDjj5LKc&feature=related
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=v37n0LBtseo&feature=related
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/07/kill-them-all-and-let-god-sortem-out.html
>
> http://www.salamiran.org/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=125&Itemid=194
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/06/doomsday-clock-and-iran-and-israel.html
>
> As the RCMP is well aware I have had enough of the cyberstalkers
> working with the JDL
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/Ilikenuman
>
> DavidRaymondAmos (16 minutes ago) Austin Baby why not just pick up
> the phone and call Sgt Moe JUST like I do ? AFTER ALL he does receive
> the same PMs you do DUMMY. (FYI he is NBGRCRCMP) Perhaps  your
> zionist hero Mr Baconfat and his many evil teenage minions in
> cyberspace shouLd be more concerned about the opinions of the
> Anti-Zionist Orthodox Rabbis within NETUREI KARTA AROUND THE WORLD i
> just got off the phone (914-262-8342) with Rabbi Dovid Weiss in New
> York http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm
>
> Ilikenuman has sent you a message: Re: The Commissioner of the RCMP
> and Mr Baconfat reallly should pay attention now EH Sgt Moe?
>
> yawn.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 00:16:21 -0300
> Subject: Re Gordon Duff, WIKI-LEAKS, ISRAEL, Banksters and the myth
> called Democracy PERHAPS YOU SHOULD CHECK OUT JOHN ADAMS AND FRANK
> MACKENNA
> To: gpduf@aol.com, danfour@myginch.com, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "PATRICK. MURPHY"<PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov>, "Frank. McKenna"
> <Frank.McKenna@td.com>, "rick. skinner"<rick.skinner@dhs.gov>,
> "john.adams"<john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca>
>
> FYI I SAW YOUR WORK HERE
>
> http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/29/gordon-duff-wiki-leaks-is-isreal-like-we-all-didnt-know/#respond
>
> http://www.tatumba.com/blog/
>
> YOU CAN CHECK SOME OF MINE HERE
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidRaymondAmos
>
> CHECKOUT WIKILEAKS AND ZIONISTS ETC
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r879_ZTqaY8
>
> http://davidamos.blogspot.com/
>
> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/exec-cadre/index-eng.htm
>
> http://sage-geds.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/cgi-bin/direct500/eng/SEo%3dGC%2cc%3dCA?SV=Deputy+Minister&SF=Title&ST=exact&FT=1
>
> http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Ian+MacLeod+Joins+Qatalyst+Group+as+Partner+and+Head+of+Global...-a0200927451
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:17:33 -0300
> Subject: Howcome you did not respond to the latest email For the
> public Record I said that because that is what your lawyers directed
> ALL CBC employees to say to me N'esy Pas Louise?
> To: Louise.Imbeault@radio-canada.ca, alan_white <alan_white@cbc.ca>,
> "Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "jacques.boucher"
> <jacques.boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "jonesr@cbc.ca"<jonesr@cbc.ca>,
> "Robert. Jones"<Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
> <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
> Richard Harris <injusticecoalition@hotmail.com>, "nb. premier"
> <nb.premier@gmail.com>, nbpolitico <nbpolitico@gmail.com>,
> "spinks08@hotmail.com"<spinks08@hotmail.com>, acampbell
> <acampbell@ctv.ca>, Ombudsma@radio-canada.ca
> Cc: contact@securitasinc.com, "jack.macdougall"
> <jack.macdougall@greenparty.ca>, krisaustin <krisaustin@panb.org>,
> fundytides <fundytides@gmail.com>, "David.ALWARD@gnb.ca"
> <David.ALWARD@gnb.ca>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ombudsman de Radio-Canada <Ombudsma@radio-canada.ca>
> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:24:41 -0400
> Subject: Faire suivre : Fwd: I tried to call you all The pdf files
> hereto attached prove that I am no liar and the mp3 and te wav files
> in the next two emails speak volumes
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Dear David Amos:
>
>
> I acknowledge receipt of you three e-mails attached.
> The Radio-Canada Ombudsman has a mandate to determine whether
> information programs of Radio-Canada has broadcast fully respect
> CBC/Radio-Canada*s journalism policy. Radio-Canada's Office of the
> Ombudsman is completely independent of Radio-Canada program management
> and thus does not intervene in the editorial process prior to the
> broadcast of information programs. You can read the mandate of the
> Ombudsmans web sites: http://www.radio-canada.ca/apropos/ombudsman/
> and http://www.cbc.ca/ombudsman/
>
> Best regards,
>
> Julie Miville-Dechêne
> Ombudsman, Services français
> Société Radio-Canada
> www.radio-canada.ca/Ombudsman
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Louise Imbeault <Louise.Imbeault@radio-canada.ca>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:18:20 -0400
> Subject: Rép. : Fwd: We just talked
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> Bonjour M. Amos,
>
> I've just returned your call as you had requested. You expressed
> surprise that I had
> in fact returned your call (at # (902) 800-0369. I then asked what I
> could do for you.
> You asked "did you review the documents I have send you?" I replied that I
> read
> through all of it and that there was nothing I could do. Your next comment
> was:
> "I'll see you in court" and you hung up without further statement.
> In consequence, there will be no further communication.
>
> Louise
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:03:20 -0300
> Subject: We just talked Trevor my number is 902 800 0369 As you can
> see Jack Layton and the CBC etc know everything
> To: tzinck <tzinck@ns.aliantzinc.ca>, salvor@gmail.com, Kristján
> Sigurður Jónsson <stjani79@hotmail.com>, birgitta <birgitta@this.is>
> Cc: tony <tony@peoplestandup.ca>, Tony Anderson
> <tonyanderson40@eastlink.ca>, robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>,
> "Julian Assange)"<editor@wikileaks.org>, "Edith. Cody-Rice"
> <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "louise.imbeault"
> <louise.imbeault@radio-canada.ca>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>
>
> From: Edith Cody-Rice <Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:53:07 -0500
> Subject: Calls and E-mails to CBC
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> Cc: Rob Renaud <Rob.Renaud@cbc.ca>
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> CBC personnel have contacted me concerning your calls and e-mails to
> them. As you are threatening legal action, would you kindly direct any
> further calls or correspondence to me. Other CBC personnel will not
> respond further to your correspondence or calls.
>
>
> Edith Cody-Rice
> Senior Legal Counsel
> Premier Conseiller juridique
> CBC/Radio-Canada
> 181 Queen Street, Ottawa, Ontario K1P 1K9
> Postal Address: P.O. Box 3220, Station C, Ottawa K1Y 1E4
> Tel: (613) 288-6164
> Cell: (613) 720-5185
> Fax/ Télécopieur (613) 288-6279
>
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> have received this message in error, please notify us immediately and
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Layton.J@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:12:58 -0400
> Subject: Thank you for writing / Merci pour votre courriel
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> We would like to acknowledge receipt and thank you for your
> correspondence. Please be assured your comments and views are valued
> as all emails receive proper attention. If required, we will be
> providing a specific reply to your concern.
>
> If you would like information concerning the work of our team of New
> Democrat MPs and our latest policies, please visit our website at:
> http://www.ndp.ca.
>
> Again, thank you for writing.
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Office of Jack Layton, MP (Toronto-Danforth)
> Leader, Canada's New Democrats
>
>
> Nous avons bien reçu votre correspondance et tenons à vous remercier.
> Sachez que nous tiendrons compte de vos commentaires, car tous les
> courriels reçoivent l'attention voulue. Nous répondons aussi
> directement à certaines préoccupations, le cas échéant.
>
> Si vous voulez plus de renseignements sur nos actions et le travail de
> notre équipe de députés, veuillez consulter notre site Web :
> http://www.npd.ca/.
>
> Nous vous remercions encore une fois de nous avoir écrit.
>
> Sincères salutations,
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:31:04 -0300
> Subject: Last week Gaëtan Thomas and Ed Barrett met with Kris Austin,
> Arty Baby MacKay and Steven Hawkes but won't return a cal or answer
> emails or letters from eme for 4 years?
> To: johnm@barrettxplore.com, ">"<edb@barrettcorp.com>,
> jmclaughlin@nbpower.com, gathomas@nbpower.com,
> "ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca"<ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>, "shawn. graham"
> <shawn.graham@gnb.ca>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
> "David.ALWARD@gnb.ca"<David.ALWARD@gnb.ca>
> Cc: commissionerofoaths@live.ca, justinwright@bell.blackberry.net,
> krisaustin <krisaustin@panb.org>, fundytides <fundytides@gmail.com>,
> sphawkes@nbnet.nb.ca
>
> However I did manage to speak to all three PANB fellas recently EH Arty
> Baby?
>
> http://www.panb.org/
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:31:40 -0300
> Subject: Robin I just callled the Feds again and a few more Provincial
> Freedom of Information Commissioners or whatever
> To: anne-marie.hayden@priv.gc.ca, .foipopro@gov.ns.ca,
> "ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca"<ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>,
> mlsmith@gov.pe.ca, "Bernard.Richard"<Bernard.Richard@gnb.ca>,
> freund.gm@gmail.com, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
> "Bernard. Theriault"<Bernard.Theriault@gnb.ca>, tony
> <tony@peoplestandup.ca>
> Cc: commissioner@oipc.nl.ca, DannyWilliams <DannyWilliams@gov.nl.ca>,
> fmaclaren@gov.pe.ca, ombudsma@ombudsman.mb.ca, ipcab@planet.eon.net,
> robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, foiphelpdesk@gov.ab.ca
>
> I tried to explain my concerns again but I quickly gave up on the
> mindless and sometimes very nasty bureaucratic minions trying hard
> playing dumb. My patience ran out after Kevin's funeral yesterday. All
> I can seem to say to the government employees now is Cya'll in
> Federal Court They can claim that they have no files on me but lets
> see how they argue my files about them.
>
> http://www.priv.gc.ca/resource/prov/index_e.cfm
>
> Lets see how the minions, their lawyers and couple of nasty French men
> in New Brunswick muddle their way through this email
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:37:58 -0300
> Subject: I just callled and tried to explain this email about the G20
> people etc but the was nobody to talk much less care
> To: contactus@thatchannel.com, freund.gm@gmail.com
> Cc: apollospear@yahoo.com
>
> From: Timothy Watson <apollospear@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: Tell me Willy Baby Holst are your many crooked little
> Yankee lawyer buddies Leo McGinity Jr still laughing at a mean old
> Maritimer?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
>
> Dear David,
> I appreciate your call and your trust. I have forwarded
> your documentation to George Freund at freund.gm@gmail.com. He is a
> keen investigator at www.thatchannel.com.
> I will give you a call this evening and we can chat some
> more. I have to go out on business in the early evening. I will review
> some of your work and have a chinwag with you upon my return.
> Much obliged for the information and the collegiate spirit.
> Talk to you in a while.
>
> Sincerely,
> Tim
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 11:49:50 -0300
> Subject: Perhaps the lawyer Don Davies MP should read this blog into
> the parliamentry record. It supports your standing in the matter
> CORRECT EH Mr Harper?
> To: jtaber@globeandmail.com, Davies.D@parl.gc.ca,
> Richard.Fadden@csis-scrs.gc.ca, webmaster@scics.gc.ca,
> commission@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, anne.mccaskill@nafta-alena.gc.ca,
> org@cpc-cpp.gc.ca, ellardm@smtp.gc.ca, info@neb-one.gc.ca,
> e.villegas@nfb.ca, info@fja-cmf.gc.ca, info@ocsec-bccst.gc.ca,
> info@ppsc.gc.ca, information@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
> tribunal@psdpt-tpfd.gc.ca, labbeb@sirc-csars.gc.ca,
> general@oic-ci.gc.ca, "anne-marie.hayden"
> <anne-marie.hayden@priv.gc.ca>, toewsv1 <toewsv1@mts.net>, toewsv1
> <toewsv1@parl.gc.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, IgnatM <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>,
> "John. Foran"<John.Foran@gnb.ca>, "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"
> <william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "john.adams"
> <john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca>, "john.logan"<john.logan@gnb.ca>, tracy
> <tracy@jatam.org>
> Cc: marc.belliveau@gnb.ca, "kelly. lamrock"<kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca>,
> robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, tony <tony@peoplestandup.ca>,
> "ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca"<ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>,
> "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, advocacycollective
> <advocacycollective@yahoo.com>
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/07/socialist-animals-fifth-columists-and.html
>
> Wednesday, July 7, 2010
> Socialist animals, "fifth columists" and what Canadian society thinks
>
> Canada's uneducated "unionists", socialists, "social activists", and
> "protest tourists" are entirely responsible for the terrorist acts and
> violence perpetrated in Toronto at the G-8, G-20 summits. And more to
> the point, that is how the vast majority of Canadians feel about it.
>
> Angus - Reid - Ipsos (June 28) conducted a poll of 1,859 Canadians
> including 689 residents of the GTA ( Greater Toronto Area) which
> showed: 74% of Canadians and 75% of GTA residents agreed that Black
> Bloc members and or any "protester" ought NOT be with any offence of
> the CC of C (Criminal of Code Canada) but under the provisions of
> Canada's counter-terrorism legislation.
>
> Angus-Reid conducted a June 28-28 poll of 1003 Canadians in all
> provinces and a diverse sample showed: That 66% of Canadians not only
> felt police tactics and actions were justified, but also approved of
> police behavior. The same polls show 80 % of Canadians and 82% of GTA
> residents think legislation ought be enacted that makes it illegal to
> cover or obscure one's face during and "peaceful" demonstration.
>
> Most Canadians thought or think that any "message" any of these
> "peaceful and law-abiding" protester had was NOT heard nor listened
> to. (51% of Canadian and 61% of GTA residents) .
>
> So called you tube "intellectuals" will pontificate and opine about
> the "evils of statism" or that socialism is NOT about creating vast
> government bureaucracies but "tearing down walls".... real Canadians,
> the very vast majority of Canadians know that there is no such thing
> as a "peaceful protest march". But merely a group of low grade
> terrorists....enabling and encouraging violent terrorists.
>
> Some years ago "peaceful protesters" in Toronto of all places rioted
> violently regarding the police beating of Black California resident
> Rodney Scott. These "peaceful protesters'," mantra was "trash it,
> don't steal it". That of course begs the question : Why "protest" and
> destroy individuals' private property in Toronto...to "protest" racism
> in suburban Los Angeles?
>
> To make it clear to our uneducated, uninformed friends like that
> dope..."thestraightdope" or our "stuck in time" socialist fool
> "redfistofeurope" or pedophile David Anus let us once again state the
> obvious ....socialism has NO ONLY... been "cast upon to the dung heap
> of history" but tried to disseminate a "message" so disparate and
> stupid...from "nuke the whales", saving the seals, "world unger"and
> the "incineration of Africa"...that in the end ...there was NO
> MESSAGE...NO POINT the exercise other than to create a stage or
> tactical opportunity for terrorists to engage authorities ....(the
> Integrated Security Unit).
>
> Notwithstanding "thestraightdope's" well edited and made propaganda
> video, and prevarications that only foreign corporations were targeted
> for violence by "peaceful protesters...these "peaceful protesters" are
> indeed terrorists. They aided and abetted terrorists and refused to
> denounce their stated goals and plans.
>
> Your garden variety trade union protester or "social activist " is not
> educated nor particularly interested in curing any of the "world's
> ills". The appearance of a large and obese Quebecois woman being
> arrested by the ISU because as she said..." all I was doing was
> protesting world unger'. Then by all means then, volunteer your time
> and money to to Oxfam. UN food agencies, the Unitarian Service
> Committee of Canada....and FEED PEOPLE rather than..... "protest".
>
> There were a significant number of ignorant and uneducated
> "protesters"complaining about the number of prisons in Canada. Yet a
> number of people really interested in the plight of those incarcerated
> yet innocent (project innocence) are constantly looking for financial
> assistance for the hiring of legal and investigatory duties.
>
> Let us be very clear ....these "protests and protesters have NOTHING
> to do with societies ills...but merely are a challenge to authority
> that must be only tolerated until criminal laws are violated.
>
> Protest is merely the act of those not willing nor intellectually
> equipped to facilitate change within society, and jail is indeed the
> best place for those of that ilk.
>
>
> Posted by Seren at 12:43 PM
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 03:04:55 -0300
> Subject: Now what do the questionable lawyers Richard Fadden and Don
> Davies have to say EH Mr Harper?
> To: jtaber@globeandmail.com, Davies.D@parl.gc.ca,
> Richard.Fadden@csis-scrs.gc.ca, webmaster@scics.gc.ca,
> commission@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, anne.mccaskill@nafta-alena.gc.ca,
> org@cpc-cpp.gc.ca, ellardm@smtp.gc.ca, info@neb-one.gc.ca,
> e.villegas@nfb.ca, info@fja-cmf.gc.ca, info@ocsec-bccst.gc.ca,
> info@ppsc.gc.ca, information@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
> tribunal@psdpt-tpfd.gc.ca, labbeb@sirc-csars.gc.ca,
> general@oic-ci.gc.ca, anne-marie.hayden@priv.gc.ca
> Cc: toewsv1 <toewsv1@mts.net>, toewsv1 <toewsv1@parl.gc.ca>, pm
> <pm@pm.gc.ca>, IgnatM <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>
>
> From: ORG <ORG@cpc-cpp.gc.ca>
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 01:45:54 -0400
> Subject: CPC AutoResponse / Réponse préenregistrée de la CPP
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for contacting the Commission for Public Complaints Against
> the RCMP. Your message has been received and if necessary, we shall
> respond as soon as possible.
>
> Thank you for your interest and comments.
>
>
> Nous vous remercions d'avoir communiqué avec la Commission des
> plaintes du public contre la GRC. Nous avons reçu votre message et y
> donnerons suite, si nécessaire, dans les plus brefs délais.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:44:18 -0300
> Subject: I just called called from Canada and tried to speak to Lynn
> Harsh of Evergreen
> To: effwa@effwa.org, LHarsh@effwa.org
>
> http://www.effwa.org/main/page.php?number=24
>
> FYI it was because of her words in this YOUTUBE
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ymovwadnzc&NR=1
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 18:39:35 -0300
> Subject: Re: I called twice from Canada and got voicemail and then a
> hangup as I was being directed to a media person Perhaps Sam Kazman
> will sit up and pay attention and call me back?
> To: Sam Kazman <SKazman@cei.org>
> Cc: pr <pr@cei.org>
>
> I will away tomorrow but may be back by Friday
>
> On 7/7/10, Sam Kazman <SKazman@cei.org> wrote:
> > I'm out of town till tomorrow, will try to respnd then
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > To: Sam Kazman; P R
> > Sent: Wed Jul 07 17:15:11 2010
> > Subject: I called twice from Canada and got voicemail and then a hangup
> > as I
> > was being directed to a media person Perhaps Sam Kazman will sit up and
> > pay
> > attention and call me back?
> >
> > http://cei.org/people/sam-kazman
> >
> > I can be reached at
> >
> > 506 485 2578
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:37:18 -0300
> > Subject: Vince Siemer hope you are not in jail yet You have an MBA So
> > you and the Parliamentarians in New Zealand should understand this
> > info and why I must sue the CROWN
> > To: news@radionz.co.nz, news@newstalkzb.co.nz, news@radiolive.co.nz,
> > news@tvnz.co.nz, cosdesk@tv3.co.nz, campbelllive@tv3.co.nz,
> > closeup@tvnz.co.nz, Ian Wishart <ian@investigatemagazine.com>, ian
> > sinclair <ian.sinclair@tvnz.co.nz>, hunter.wells@tvnz.co.nz,
> > audrey.young@nzherald.co.nz, Fran O'Sullivan
> > <fran.osullivan@xtra.co.nz>, john.armstrong@nzherald.co.nz, Steven
> > Price <steven.price@vuw.ac.nz>, editor@uncensored.co.nz,
> > tipoff@whaleoil.co.nz, ti@transparency.org, waterpressure@gmail.com,
> > mlm@archaeoskymatrix.com, national.kapiti@xtra.co.nz,
> > R.Hide@ministers.govt.nz, sandy.grove@parliament.govt.nz
> > Cc: laos_newzealand@yahoo.co.nz, vsiemer@hotmail.com,
> > lockwood.smith@national.org.nz
> >
> > You really pissed me off last night EH Benjamin but not a peep from
> > Penny EH? Heres hoping that you shared what I did on his behalf with
> > Vince Siemer before he gets locked up.
> >
> > As I said last night we all have the same Queen CORRECT Benjamin? I
> > read a lot of words sent to me from New Zealand since last summer and
> > responded when I felt I could help. Do you recall some of the
> > responses I got from your friends last year as I supported their
> > concerns? Soem of them were quite nasty EH? Imagine if you people had
> > actually read some of my stuff and relayed my info to Siemer last
> > year?
> >
> > Please allow me to make just two of the things I did in 2003 and 2009
> > real simple for any parliamentarian or MBA or lawyer with an ethical
> > mind to understand by merely forwarding one email response I got from
> > a parliamentarian in England last month. After all everybody loves
> > their money correct? Read what I sent to the Cabinet Minister in
> > England would should be concerned about the media that Siemer laments
> > about. Imagine if the Yankees had not covered up my concerns about the
> > fraudulant actions of the financial industry and the US Treasury Dept
> > in 2002?.A lot of people would have a lot more money to love these
> > days if anyone knew how to read EH?
> >
> > Well in 2002 I did my best to warn the world ab out Banksters and Bush
> > and got locked up and lost everything including my family. Since 2009
> > I have been warning it again about Zionists and Obama and nobody gives
> > a damn but watch out for a war with Iran and another even bigger dip
> > in the economy. Fo the benefit of all our children I truly hope I am
> > wrong.
> >
> > I must as the obvious question If the justice sytem New Zealand found
> > Mr Siemer's webpages so offensive then howcome it did nothing about
> > this blog? Scroll back to through it to last fall and see what this
> > zionist says about you people in New Zealand. This Barry Winters
> > character sent you people many emails trying to impeach my character
> > correct?
> >
> > http://baconfat53.blogspot.com
> >
> > That said you do know how many responses I got from your
> > parliamentarians last year about your and Penny's concerns don't ya
> > Ben? If not then scroll to the bottom to review a couple that were not
> > computer generated.Minister Rodney Hide should get back to me sometime
> > soon if he bothers to read this email. wheras your names were
> > mentioned in the subject line you and Penny should have sat up and
> > paid attention then instead of just sending more emails and playing
> > dumb like you did last night. Anyway you kept on sending me notice
> > your concerns way downunder and I read them to see if anything
> > coincided with mine north of the 49th. When I read Mr Siemer's stuff I
> > saw that we ran into the same sort of crooks I did and I knew for a
> > fact I could help him if we could get IMMMI and Wikileaks to say his
> > name and mine in the same sentence all over the world. Their declared
> > mandate caused me to send Siemer's stuff to them to stress test their
> > ethics again with another whistleblower's concerns. However I suspect
> > he will go to jail I will have to go it alone as usual EH? At least I
> > am still free and have every right and the savvy to know how to sue
> > the Queen..
> >
> > Veritas Vincit
> > David Raymond Amos .
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "STAINTON-JAMES, Angela"<STAINTONJAMESA@parliament.uk>
> > To: "'David Amos'"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:50 AM
> > Subject: RE: So what is the Conservative MP Hugh Robertson gonna do
> > about people in his riding torturing people on the Internet? In Canada
> > such slander is a crime EH Vic Toews?
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear David
> >
> > Thank you for your e-mail addressed to Hugh Robertson. Your e-mail
> > has come through to Hugh's constituency office when, clearly, you need
> > his Department. Sadly, I do not have an e-mail address for him but
> > the telephone number of the Department of Media Culture and Sport is
> > 020 7211 6200 and they should be able to provide you with the
> > necessary information.
> >
> > Thank you for writing to Hugh and if you have any problem at all
> > please do not hesitate to come back to me.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Angela Stainton-James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 29 May 2010 23:24
> > To: STAINTON-JAMES, Angela; toewsv1
> > Cc: RHar100@aol.com; Gilles. Blinn; gilles.moreau; roger. gillies;
> > rogerduguay21
> > Subject: So what is the Conservative MP Hugh Robertson gonna do about
> > people in his riding torturing people on the Internet? In Canada such
> > slander is a crime EH Vic Toews?
> >
> > Need I say that "Satan's Crack Dealer" and his many evil little fans
> > atacked the wrong pissed of Maritimer in Youtube? Scroll down read
> > real slow and then call your lawyer or the cops Mr Roberson
> >
> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6074892060
> > Richard Coughlan
> > Faversham, United Kingdom
> > email RHar100@aol.com
> > Website:http://youtube.com/user/coughlan666
> > Phone 07935333407
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:46:20 -0300
> > Subject: Mr. Finkelstein I just discovered you and your concerns today
> > perhaps we should have a long talk ASAP? i an be reached at 506 485
> > 2578 for a couple of days
> > To: normfinkelstein@gmail.com
> >
> > Need I say that I am hounoured that this evil person hates me/
> >
> > http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/05/americans-have-never-guarantteed.html
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:23:46 -0300
> > Subject: Lets see if the Russians will understand Fwd: We just talked
> > this what I was trying to relate to the President of Mexico while he
> > was in Canada
> > To: info@rusembassy.ca
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:19:51 -0300
> > Subject: We just talked this what I was trying to relate to the
> > President of Mexico while he was in Canada
> > To: atperez_lee <atperez_lee@yahoo.com.mx>
> >
> > The easiest way to check something about my concerns quickly is to go
> > to the US Senate Banking Committee hearing on November 18th and 20th
> > 2003 and notice the webcasts and transcripts of a very important
> > hearing about the financial industry are missing. Please notice the
> > crook Eliot Spitzer testified on the 20th
> >
> > http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.List&Month=0&Year=2003
> >
> >
> > http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=102e41a1-f540-4ce5-a701-b6d09b7606b1
> >
> > http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
> >
> > Now look for Spitzer's answer to me on page 13 of this pdf file
> >
> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
> >
> > The easy answer to your next question is YES I am the the guy nobody
> > will talk about. so perhaps you should for the benefit of your
> > concerns and pocketbook. (Google David Amos and Wendy Olsen to see how
> > far down the rabbbit hole I can take anyone)
> >
> > I explained some of it a year ago on many talk shows and nobody cared.
> > Listen here if you wish then go figure whom you should trust.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJGDSlnyKro
> >
> > If nothing else have laugh at my espense and Google this expression
> > "Nobody will say my name"
> >
> >
> > Here is just one of the many reasons why
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:21 AM
> > To: David Amos; USANYS-MADOFF; Litt, Marc (USANYS)
> > Cc: webo; vasilescua@sec.gov; friedmani@sec.gov; krishnamurthyp@sec.gov
> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> >
> > Thank you for your response.
> >
> > Wendy Olsen
> > Victim Witness Coordinator
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:48 AM
> > To: USANYS-MADOFF; Olsen, Wendy (USANYS); Litt, Marc (USANYS)
> > Cc: webo; vasilescua@sec.gov; friedmani@sec.gov; krishnamurthyp@sec.gov
> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> >
> > Ms Olsen
> >
> > Thank you for keeping me informed.
> >
> > Yes unseal all my emails with all their attachments immediately and
> > make certain that the US Attorny's office finally practices full
> > disclosurement as to who I am and what my concerns are as per the Rule
> > of Law within a purported democracy.
> >
> > As you folks all well know I am not a shy man and I have done nothing
> > wrong. It appears to me that bureacratic people only use the right to
> > privacy of others when it suits their malicious ends in order to
> > protect their butts from impreacment, litigation and prosecution.
> >
> > The people in the US Attorney's Office and the SEC etc are very well
> > aware that I protested immediately to everyone I could think of when
> > the instant I knew that my correspondences went under seal and Madoff
> > pled guilty so quickly and yet another cover up involing my actions
> > was under full steam. Everybody knows that.the US Government has been
> > trying to keep my concerns about the rampant public corruption a
> > secret for well over seven long years. However now that a lot of
> > poeple and their countries in general are losing a lot of money people
> > are beginning to remember just exactly who I am and what i did
> > beginning over seven years ago..
> >
> > Veritas Vincit
> > David Raymond Amos
> > 506 756 8687
> >
> > P.S. For the record Obviously I pounced on these Yankee bastards as
> > soon as the newsrag in Boston published this article on the web last
> > night.
> >
> > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1162354&f
> > ormat=&page=2&listingType=biz#articleFull
> >
> > Notice that Nester just like everyone else would not say my name? It
> > is because my issues surrounding both Madoff and are NOT marketing
> > timing They are as you all well know money laundering, fraud,
> > forgery, perjury, securites fraud, tax fraud, Bank fraud, illegal
> > wiretappping and Murder amongst other very serious crimes.
> >
> > "SEC spokesman John Nester dismissed similarities between Markopolos
> > and Scannell's cases as "not a valid comparison."
> >
> > He said the SEC determined the market-timing by Putnam clients that
> > Scannell reported didn't violate federal law. Nester said the SEC only
> > acted after another tipster alleged undisclosed market-timing by some
> > Putnam insiders.
> >
> > Scannell, now a crusader for SEC reforms, isn't surprised the agency
> > is in hot water again.
> >
> > Noting that several top SEC officials have gone on to high-paying
> > private-sector jobs, he believes hopes for future employment impact
> > investigations. "It's a distinct disadvantage to make waves before you
> > enter the private sector," Scannell said."
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/30/09, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S
> > OFFICE
> > SDNY
> > To: NesterJ@sec.gov, letterstoeditor@bostonherald.com, "oig"
> > <oig@sec.gov>, Thunter@tribune.com, david@davidmyles.com,
> > ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca, "Dan Fitzgerald"<danf@danf.net>
> > Cc: dsheehan@bakerlaw.com, dspelfogel@bakerlaw.com,
> > mc@whistleblowers.org, gkachroo@mccarter.com,
> > david.straube@accenture.com, gurdip.s.sahota@accenture.com,
> > benjamin_mcmurray@ao.uscourts.gov, bob_burke@ao.uscourts.gov
> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 10:00 PM
> >
> > Need I say BULLSHIT?
> >
> > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1162354&f
> > ormat=&page=2&listingType=biz#articleFull
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:03:13 -0300
> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S
> > OFFICE
> > SDNY
> > To: Russ.Stanton@latimes.com, meredith.goodman@latimes.com,
> > ninkster@navigantconsulting.com, dgolub@sgtlaw.com
> > Cc: firstselectmanffld@town.fairfield.ct.us,
> > editor@whatsupfairfield.com, info@csiworld.org, jacques_poitras
> > <jacques_poitras@cbc.ca>
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:40:55 -0300
> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> > To: gmacnamara@town.fairfield.ct.us, MartiK1 <MartiK1@parl.gc.ca>,
> > "Paul. Harpelle"<Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>, Jason Keenan
> > <jason.keenan@icann.org>, Kandalaw <Kandalaw@mindspring.com>
> > Cc: info@grahamdefense.org, fbinhct@leo.gov
> >
> > From: "Peck,Dave"<DPeck@town.fairfield.ct.us>
> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:32:32 -0400
> > Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT
> > INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> >
> > I will be unavailable until 4/1/09.
> >
> > Deputy Chief MacNamara will be in charge while I am away.
> >
> > He can be reached at 254-4831 or email him at
> > gmacnamara@town.fairfield.ct.us
> >
> > I will not be checking emails or cell phone messages.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Chief Dave Peck
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:32:18 -0300
> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> > To: dpeck@town.fairfield.ct.us, edit@ctpost.com, bresee@courant.com
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:19:35 -0300
> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> > To: dtnews@telegraph.co.uk
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: USANYS-MADOFF
> > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:06 PM
> > To: DAVID.RAYMOND.AMOS@GMAIL.COM
> > Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> >
> > In United States v. Bernard L. Madoff, 09 Cr. 213 (DC), the Court
> > received a request from NBC and ABC to unseal all correspondence from
> > victims that has been submitted in connection with the case.
> >
> > This includes your email to the Government.
> >
> > If the correspondence from victims is unsealed, the victim's personal
> > identifying information including name, address, telephone number and
> > email address (to the extent it was included on the correspondence)
> > will become public. The Government must submit a response to the
> > request by NBC and ABC by Tuesday, March 31, 2009. Please let us know
> > whether you consent to the full disclosure of your correspondence, or
> > whether you wish to have your correspondence remain sealed for privacy
> > or other reasons.
> > If you wish to have your correspondence remain sealed, please let us
> > know the reason. We will defend your privacy to the extent that we
> > can. Thank you.
> >
> > I looks like the US attorney in New York finally has to unseal my
> > emails that you dudes have been sitting on for quite some time for no
> > reason I will ever understand other than you are just a bunch of
> > chickenshits.
> >
> > I know NBC, ABC, your blogger buddies or any other media wacko will
> > never say my name but the pissed off folks that lost a lot of money
> > with Bernie Baby just may ask how the hell I am EH?
> >
> > Veritas Vincit
> > David Raymond Amos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:48:50 -0300
> > Subject: Fwd: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
> > To: Marc.Litt@usdoj.gov
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:29:42 -0300
> > Subject: Fwd: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
> > To: PChavkin@mintz.com
> > Cc: webo <webo@xplornet.com>
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)"<Wendy.Olsen@usdoj.gov>
> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:08:04 -0400
> > Subject: RE: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
> > To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> >
> > On March 10, 2009, the Honorable Denny Chin provided the following
> > guidance for victims who wish to be heard at the plea proceeding on
> > March 12, 2009 at 10:00 a.m.:
> >
> > Judge Chin stated that there are two issues that the Court will
> > consider at the hearing: (1) whether to accept a guilty plea from the
> > defendant to the eleven-count Criminal Information filed by the
> > Government, which provides for a maximum sentence of 150 years'
> > imprisonment; and (2) whether the defendant should be remanded or
> > released on conditions of bail, if the Court accepts a guilty plea.
> > Judge Chin also stated that, at the hearing on March 12, 2009, he will
> > conduct a plea allocution of the defendant and then will announce
> > whether the Court intends to accept the plea. At that time, the Court
> > will solicit speakers who disagree with the Court's intended ruling.
> >
> > Assuming the defendant pleads guilty and his plea is accepted by
> > the Court, the Court intends to allow the Government and defense
> > counsel to speak on the issue of bail. The Court will then announce
> > its intended ruling on that issue. The Court will then invite
> > individuals who disagree with the proposed ruling on bail to be heard.
> >
> > The Court noted that there will be opportunity for victims to be
> > heard in the future on the subjects of sentencing, forfeiture and
> > restitution in advance of any sentencing of the defendant. The Court
> > also noted that it is not appropriate for victims who wish to speak
> > concerning sentencing issues to be heard at the March 12, 2009
> > proceeding.
> >
> > A link to the a transcript of the March 10, 2009 Court hearing can
> > be found on the website of the United States Attorney's Office for the
> > Southern District of New York:
> >
> > http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nys
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:56 AM
> > To: usanys.madoff@usdoj.gov
> > Subject: FW: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 12:58 PM
> > To: horwitzd@dicksteinshapiro.com; Nardoza, Robert (USANYE);
> > USAMA-Media (USAMA); Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
> > Cc: oig
> > Subject: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and KPMG
> > etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
> >
> > horwitzd@dicksteinshapiro.com
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Sartory, Thomas J."<TSartory@goulstonstorrs.com>
> > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:41:20 -0500
> > Subject: RE: I did talk the lawyers Golub and Flumenbaum tried to
> > discuss Bernie Madoff and KPMG etc before sending these emails
> > To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Amos,
> >
> > I am General Counsel at Goulston & Storrs. Your email below to
> > Messers. Rosensweig and Reisch has been forwarded to me for response.
> > While it's not clear what type of assistance, if any, you seek from
> > Goulston % Storrs, please be advised that we are not in a position to
> > help you. Please do not send further communications to any of our
> > attorneys. We will not be able to respond, and your communications
> > will not be protected by the attorney-client privilege.
> >
> > We wish you well in the pursuit of your concerns.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Thomas J. Sartory
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:18 PM
> > To: Rosensweig, Richard J.; info@LAtaxlawyers.com; Reisch, Alan M.;
> > reed@hbsslaw.com
> > Subject: Fwd: I did talk the lawyers Golub and Flumenbaum tried to
> > discuss Bernie Madoff and KPMG etc before sending these emails
> >
> > Perhaps somebody should call me back now. EH?
> >
> > UK Parliament Disclaimer:
> > This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have
> > received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your
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> > This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted
> > for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "R Hide (MIN)"<R.Hide@ministers.govt.nz>
> > To: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: BENJAMIN'S EASTON'S PROTEST NOTICE ABOUT INJUSTICES I
> > have an idea for you Ben
> >
> >
> > On behalf of the Hon Rodney Hide, Minister of Local Government, I wish
> > to acknowledge receipt of your email.
> >
> > Your correspondence has been placed in front of the Minister.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Sandy Grove
> > Ministerial Private Secretary (Advisory)
> > Office of Hon Rodney Hide
> > WELLINGTON
> > Ph 04 817 6630
> > Email: sandy.grove@parliament.govt.nz
> >
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 29 September 2009 3:05 pm
> > To: T Ryall (MIN); Amy Adams; Jim Anderton;
> > anderton.wigram@xtra.co.nz; Jacinda Ardern; Shane Ardern; Chris
> > Auchinvole; Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi; Rick Barker; Carol Beaumont; David
> > Bennett; Loren Bolton (MIN); Jackie Blue; Chester Borrows;
> > chester.wanganui@xtra.co.nz; chester.hawera@xtra.co.nz; John Boscawen;
> > Sue Bradford; socialjustice@greens.org.nz; Simon Bridges; Natalie
> > Roberts (MIN); Brendon Burns; bb@brendonburns.co.nz; Chris Carter;
> > labourwest@xtra.co.nz; D Carter (MIN); cartermp@xtra.co.nz; J Carter
> > (MIN); northlandelectorate@xtra.co.nz; Steve Chadwick; Charles
> > Chauvel; Ashraf Choudhary; J Coleman (MIN); J Collins (MIN);
> > office@judithcollins.co.nz; Clayton Cosgrove;
> > claytoncosgrovekaiapoi@xtra.co.nz; David Cunliffe;
> > dcunliffe@xtra.co.nz; Clare Curran; lianne.dalziel@parliament.govt.nz;
> > Kelvin Davis; Jacqui Dean; Catherine Delahunty; Roger Douglas; P Dunne
> > (MIN); electjville@xtra.co.nz; Ruth Dyson; ruth.dyson@xtra.co.nz; B
> > English (MIN); elecgor@esi.co.nz; Darien Fenton;
> > office@labournorth.org.nz; C Finlayson (MIN); Jeanette Fitzsimons; Te
> > Ururoa Flavell; Craig Foss; craigfoss@backingthebay.co.nz; David
> > Garrett; Aaron Gilmore; p.goff@parliament.govt.nz; phil@goff.org.nz;
> > Jo Goodhew; sandra.goudie@national.org.nz; Kennedy Graham; Hon. Tim
> > Groser (MIN); nathan.guy@national.org.nz;
> > national.horowhenua@xtra.co.nz; national.kapiti@xtra.co.nz; Kevin
> > Hague; Hone Harawira; Terry Ututaonga; George Hawkins; John Hayes; P
> > Heatley (MIN); Tau Henare; tau.henaremp@xtra.co.nz; R Hide (MIN);
> > rodney@epsom.org.nz; Paul Hutchison; hunua.electorate@xtra.co.nz;
> > Shane Jones; shanejonesmp@xtra.co.nz; S Joyce (MIN); Rahui Katene;
> > Nikki Kaye; Sue Kedgley; J Key (MIN); genelle@johnkey.mp.net.nz;
> > A.King@parliament.govt.nz; kilbirnieeo@xtra.co.nz;
> > colin.kingmp@xtra.co.nz; winnie.laban@parliament.govt.nz;
> > mana.electorate@xtra.co.nz; Melissa Lee;
> > Iain.leesgalloway@parliament.govt.nz; Keith Locke;
> > greenmps.auckland@greens.org.nz;
> > peseta.sam.lotuiiga@parliament.govt.nz; Tim Macindoe;
> > moana.mackey@labour.org.nz; Nanaia Mahuta;
> > tainuielectorate@xtra.co.nz; Trevor Mallard; WOAoffice@xtra.co.nz;
> > petone.eo@clear.net.nz; W Mapp (MIN); Todd McClay; M McCully (MIN);
> > murray.mccully@xtra.co.nz; Sue Moroney; waikatohub.mps@xtra.co.nz;
> > Stuart Nash; Russel Norman; Hekia Parata; David Parker; Allan Peachey;
> > Ritchie Wards; lynne.pillaymp@xtra.co.nz; S Power (MIN);
> > simonpower.feilding@xtra.co.nz; simonpower.marton@xtra.co.nz; Rajen
> > Prasad; Paul Quinn; angela.bray@parliament.govt.nz;
> > jen.toogood@parliament.govt.nz; Chris Hipkins;
> > marlene.ditchfield@xtra.co.nz; janette.granville@xtra.co.nz; Pete
> > Hodgson; pete@petehodgson.co.nz; Parekura Horomia;
> > ikaroa.gis@xtra.co.nz; ikaroa.hstgs@xtra.co.nz; Darren Hughes; Raymond
> > Huo; office@grantrobertson.co.nz; Ross Robertson;
> > rae.waterhouse@xtra.co.nz; michael.clatworthy@xtra.co.nz; Eric Roy; H
> > Roy (MIN); Heather Henderson; Pita Sharples (MIN); Sua William Sio;
> > Trish Wanden; mp.rodney.warkworth@xtra.co.nz; N Smith (MIN);
> > nick@nick4nelson.co.nz; Maryan Street; Lindsay Tisch;
> > tolleywhk@xtra.co.nz; tolleygis@xtra.co.nz;
> > chris.tremain@national.org.nz; napier.electorate@airnet.net.nz;
> > Metiria Turei; greenmps.dunedin@greens.org.nz; T Turia (MIN);
> > Tari.Turia@xtra.co.nz; Philip Twyford; Louise Upston; Nicky Wagner; K
> > Wilkinson (MIN); waimakariri@xtra.co.nz; M Williamson (MIN); Michael
> > Woodhouse; blueandgold@parliament.govt.nz; P Wong (MIN);
> > pansy.wong@xtra.co.nz; ahan.young@parliament.govt.nz;
> > rosslynn@hrc.co.nz; sylviab@hrc.co.nz; michaelW@hrc.co.nz;
> > phillippa.smith@oag.govt.nz; Mark.Holman@ssc.govt.nz;
> > mark.thornton@justice.govt.nz; boris.vanbeusekom@justice.govt.nz;
> > tinz@paradise.net.nz; >; emma.miles@police.govt.nz;
> > John.Rivers@police.govt.nz; Mike.Webb@police.govt.nz;
> > nurses@nzno.org.nz; gay@pha.org.nz; qsolutionsrising@gmail.com;
> > easy@island.net; jardim.stratton@gmail.com;
> > christinejhansen@gmail.com; no_to_nwo@yahoo.co.uk;
> > johan.niklasson@evolution-production.com; lunalas@cox.net;
> > saxon1hero@yahoo.co.uk; journalist@bellsouth.net;
> > irenew.politico@gmail.com; daniel.solis@seznam.cz;
> > vickytoxotis@hotmail.com; wef339@mail.com; katcre22@yahoo.com;
> > scott@tkgtech.com; amandablake@blueyonder.co.uk;
> > who.flu.2009@gmail.com; jazon@ymail.com; sineadcasper@live.ie;
> > acpscotland@hotmail.co.uk; p.duffy93@ntlworld.com;
> > tua46054@temple.edu; ciaranmcloone@ooglemail.com;
> > marek_p2000@yahoo.com; black2000at@hotmail.com;
> > madame_karnak@yahoo.com; sracine@gmail.com;
> > annikatornlind@hotmail.com; manonf6@yahoo.com; matt@mattengelman.com;
> > grantlear@hotmail.com; helix7@hotmail.com; editor@uncensored.co.nz;
> > melocacau@gmail.com; steve.gosschalk@gmail.com;
> > tidalelectric@gmail.com; vapi.kupenga@xtra.co.nz;
> > eastwood.vincent@gmail.com; sichel@nsw.chariot.net.au;
> > mlm@archaeoskymatrix.com
> > Cc: laos_newzealand@yahoo.co.nz; jane burgermeister
> > Subject: RE: BENJAMIN'S EASTON'S PROTEST NOTICE ABOUT INJUSTICES I
> > have an idea for you Ben
> >
> > From: National Kapiti Electorate Office <national.kapiti@xtra.co.nz>
> > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:14:19 +1300
> > Subject: RE: NZ HEALTH MINISTER TONY RYALL - MS PENNY DO YOU READ
> > EMAILS AS WELL AS WRITE THEM?
> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> >
> > Dear Mr Amos
> > Thank you for copying Nathan in with your email to NZ Health Minister
> > Tony
> > Ryall. This has been passed on to Nathan for his information.
> >
> > Regards
> > Heather
> >
> > Heather Shaw| Electorate Agent for Hon Nathan Guy MP for Otaki
> > P: +64 4 298 2906| F: +64 4 298 4845| Shop 3, 23 Amohia Street,
> > Paraparaumu,
> > Kapiti Coast 5032
> > www.nathanguy.co.nz
> >
> > Regards
> > Heather
> >
> > Jan 3rd, 2004
> >
> > Mr. David R. Amos
> > 153 Alvin Avenue
> > Milton, MA U.S.A. 02186
> >
> > Dear Mr. Amos
> >
> > Thank you for your letter of November 19th, 2003, addressed to
> > my predecessor,
> > the Honourble Wayne Easter, regarding your safety. I apologize for the
> > delay in responding.
> >
> > If you have any concerns about your personal safety, I can only
> > suggest that you contact
> > the police of local jurisdiction. In addition, any evidence of
> > criminal activity should be brought
> > to their attention since the police are in the best position to
> > evaluate the information and take
> > action as deemed appropriate.
> >
> > I trust that this information is satisfactory.
> >
> > Yours sincerely
> > A. Anne McLellan”
> >
> > September 11th, 2004
> >
> > Dear Mr. Amos,
> >
> > On behalf of Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne
> > Clarkson, I acknowledge receipt of two sets of documents and
> > CD regarding corruption, one received from you directly, and the
> > other forwarded to us by the Office of the Lieutenant Governor of
> > New Brunswick.
> >
> > I regret to inform you that the Governor General cannot
> > intervene in matters that are the responsibility of elected officials
> > and courts of
> > Justice of Canada. You already contacted the various provincial
> > authorities
> > regarding your concerns, and these were the appropriate steps to take.
> >
> > Yours sincerely.
> >
> > Renee Blanchet
> > Office of the Secretary to the Governor General
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:12:44 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: We just talked
> To: scott.white@thecanadianpress.com, pagek@parl.gc.ca,
> editor@policeprofessional.com
> Cc: IgnatM <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>, LaytoJ <LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>,
> jemma@policeprofessional.com, hiddenfromhistory
> <hiddenfromhistory@yahoo.ca>
>
> Need i say i was not surprised when Askari and his boss Kevin Page
> formerly of the PCO office did not respond to my phone calls or email
> yesterday?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:39:54 -0300
> Subject: We just talked
> To: askarm@parl.gc.ca
>
> Mostafa Askari
> Director General
> Library of Parliament
> Economic and Fiscal Analysis
> Parliament Buildings
> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A9
> Canada
>
> Telephone : 613-992-8045
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:07:59 -0300
> Subject: You Cato dudes played dumb again about your missing blog and
> the documents I sent ya but lets see if one of your Directors is a
> dumb as you and the Feds pretend to be
> To: barnold@cato.org, kcouchman@cato.org, ckennedy@cato.org,
> amast@cato.org
> Cc: "rick. skinner"<rick.skinner@dhs.gov>, "Dean.Buzza"
> <Dean.Buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>
> The text of the blog of Tom Palmer's that Cato denies existed can be
> found within my blog and many other places as well as this email
>
> http://davidamos.blogspot.com/2005/03/ides-of-march.html
>
> March 24, 2005
> Crazy as a Loon, but Free
>
> Off to Iceland!
>
> Well, Bobby Fischer has his Icelandic passport. The U.S. government
> can now stop persecuting him for the crime of playing chess in
> Yugoslavia. Fischer may be out of his mind (tha’ts almost certain, if
> you consider his anti-Semitism and praise for the 9-11 attacks), but
> he’s not out of his mind for choosing Iceland as his country of
> refuge. And the Icelanders, who may later regret having such an
> utterly crazy person wandering around in their country, have done the
> right thing by offering him refuge.
>
> NOTE: I seem to have attracted a stalker, who keeps posting strange
> messages on this site. Whatever.
>
> Posted by Tom Palmer at March 24, 2005 07:09 AM | TrackBack
>
> Comments
> Quite frankly I do not understand this. What does Iceland gain from
> this? Fischer himself stated that he would NEVER return to chess. So,
> it is unlikely that he will play for Iceland... and even though he
> did, it is not like he’d be back at the top.
> Now, he might want to teach his fellow Icelanders
> Fischerrandom...Fischerrandom is to chess what Estonian grammar is to
> linguistic ...And THAT sounds like a threat to me. NV
>
>
> Posted by: Nathalie I. Vogel at March 24, 2005 08:36 AM
> I doubt that Iceland has much to gain. (And I suspect that the
> inhabitants of Reykjavik may suffer from having an insufferable
> loudmouth crackpot wandering around.) But they did the right thing.
> The better thing would have been for the U.S. to drop its case against
> Mr. Fischer. I don't think you should lose your passport or suffer
> criminal prosecution for traveling someplace to play chess. I think
> that the position of the U.S. government (and of both Democratic and
> Republican administrations) is the harder one to understand.
>
> Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 24, 2005 08:47 AM
> TGP: "Fischer may be out of his mind (tha’ts almost certain, if you
> consider his anti-Semitism "
>
> I don't want to go all Szaszian on someone for what is most likely a
> casual comment, but suggesting someone is "out of his mind" simply
> because he is (labeled as) anti-Semitic seems overmuch. Immoral,
> perhaps...poorly informed, possibly...holding to views developed as a
> result of childhood associations, maybe...a confusion on either the
> part of Fischer or the person making the accusation of anti-Semitism
> with anti-Zionism, quite possible. But "out of his mind"?
>
> Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 24, 2005 11:17 AM
> Ross, Tom did refer to 'his' anti-Semitism; maybe it's not just that
> Fischer does not like Jews, but that he suffers from a particularly
> radical form of bigotry.
>
> I wouldn't know myself, but that was the inference I drew from Tom's
> comment.
>
> Posted by: Henri Hein at March 25, 2005 02:45 AM
> Then, Henri, he would be immoral, or bigoted, not "out of his mind".
> And he should consult an ethicist, not a travel agent or chiropracter
> to bring him back to his mind or better align it.
> Again, my point was merely that "out of his mind" implies one must be
> crazy or mentally ill to be anti-Semitic; I think that's a category
> error.
>
> Ross
>
> Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 25, 2005 06:54 PM
> Ross's points are well taken, but I do think that some term such as
> "crazy" (I'll stay away from "mentally ill") is useful in describing
> Mr. Fischer. (And even Thomas Szasz readily admits that there are
> "lots of crazy people" around; he just says that they're not sick.)
>
> The anti-Semitism that Mr. Fischer spouts is not of the "they wouldn't
> be welcome in our club" sort (bad as that is), but of the "Organized
> International Jewry is out to get me," sort. The former is an example
> of bad behavior, bad manners, immoral views, or the like. The latter
> sort of anti-Semitism is an obsession that seems in general to be
> immune to either moral appeal (since it's a claim about an alleged
> state of affairs, viz., that the Jews run everything and are out to
> get one) or to factual refutation (how do you argue someone out of
> such a...for want of a better word...crazy view?).
>
> Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 25, 2005 11:34 PM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: rjvattuone@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:59 AM
> Subject: This is going to get interesting
>
>
> Hey Richard
>
> Thanks for calling me back the other day. Here is my number in Boston
> 617 698-6549 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 617 698-6549
> end_of_the_skype_highlighting. I will be hitting the road shortly
> and I will be sending out to you hard copy of what I am sending to
> Scott Daruty. However there is a great deal more you should know ASAP.
> I am involved against the biggest and baddest of them all and we all
> know they play for keeps. It is important that you know much and have
> evidence of it in order to protect yourself. I know they moniter my
> phone calls and I have know doubt that they listen to the Canadain
> Cell as well. The fact that you spoke to me honestly and openly puts
> you in jeopardy. If you had acted like most lawyers, the bastards
> would leave you alone. If you come to my aid, they will attack you.
> Trust me it has happened before and I will send proof of it in the
> following emails. Some contain the Tiffs I mentioned I am curious to
> see if they get through AOL system. I hack been blocked by them in the
> past. I have not heard from Barry Bachrach since just after he warned
> me that the FBI was about to pounce on me on Oct 1st. It seems they
> have him running scared. I must do my best to protect honest men..
>
> The following is what I just posted but it seems Bill Gates does not
> allow Tiff files in his sites so I will forward it to you to support
> what I said is true. Answer this email if and when you get it an I
> will send some others if you wish. However I think it would be better
> not to use AOL. As I said just get one in Yahoo or Hotmail they work
> better and are free.
>
> From: motomaniac in response to Message 1 Sent: 3/27/2005 9:21 AM
>
> In defense of Bobby Fischer I must say that he is just another man
> like me. He has his strengths and his weaknesses. Just like me. One
> particular forte of his, the amazing ability to play a game very well
> thrust him into the limelight for the whole wide world to study and
> examine his every move. More importantly I believe his fame caused him
> to become a pawn in the big big game. Although he had his right to
> privacy, the whole world dogged at his heels and critized his every
> action as a man. The Masters of War obviously tried use him to their
> advantage during the Cold War. He is not a stateman or a lawyer. He is
> simply a free thinking individual who has every right to speak his
> mind particularly after he has suffered through hell just because he
> plays chess so very well.
>
> I say judge not lest ye be judged and mind your own mouth about things
> you do not know all the details of. I am far more outspoken than Bobby
> ever was and yet you have never even heard of my name. It is because
> the corporate controlled media is not permited to do so. I am nobody
> with any special talent that had caused me to be thrown into public
> scrutiny before I was compelled to speak out as Bobby has done. I do
> not have to agree or disagree with his every word over the years to
> understand his meaning and his troubles. That said, in all honesty it
> would behoove us both if his lawyer would listen to me and employ
> Bobby's fame to expose the truth of all that we say.
>
> I am am not a perfect person and neither is Bobby. I do not know him
> nor do I judge him. Yet I do agree with with his standing in defense
> of his freedom. The Chessmaster has every right to spout off against
> the Masters of War because they have offended him greatly. It is for
> his attorney to weed out the truth and evidence of his convictions and
> present it in court in order to seek relief on his client's behalf. A
> jury of his peers will decide the truth of his matters not us bloggers
> without veiwing and hearing all the evidence. Forget what you may
> glean from the media. The information is controlled and slanted
> against him. Listen to what his lawyer says and what is used in
> arguement against him on the public record. Do not hold court in the
> media just gossip about things you know are true in order for the
> courts to act properly in the public interest.
>
> Bobby has paid the devil his due and done time in his jails. It is
> time for him to seek relief. I have as well. I was summoned to jail in
> the USA while running for Parliament in Canada and held under the
> charges of "other". I will not want allow myself to be judged on just
> one particular act or deed. My criminal trial in the USA is coming
> very soon. I will have lots to say.
>
> It is the average of all our days and deeds that speaks of us as the
> men we are. Like any game, it is what happens in the end that counts.
> Sometimes sacrifices must be made and sometimes mistakes are made.
> However once the word "checkmate" is declared, it is all over but the
> crying as long as we play by the rules and the fat lady sings in tune.
> I am more than happy to provide to Mr. Vattuone my evidence of much
> public corruption in order to support Bobby's lawsuit against the USA.
> It is high time the the Masters of War paid the fiddler and then be
> compelled to dance to a different tune as we make them fall on their
> own sword. No one is above the law. The public trust must be upheld or
> we are all losers in the the big big game. Forget Bobby and chess for
> a minute and listen to what he is saying through his attorney. I
> applaud is efforts in support of Bobby and his legal matters. I hope
> we get on like a house on fire. Any enemy of my foe should be a friend
> of mine. Bobby lawyer is your neighbor listen to him and then speak
> out to protect your own civil rights. What happened to Bobby and I
> could happen to you next. Get it?
>
> If anyone wishes to challenge what I have said, respond to this
> message with a email account that can hold of 25 megs of attachments.
> I will send you Tiff files of legal documents etc. that will take you
> down path of of the Garden of Good and Evil that everybody knows is
> true. I simply made it a point to prove it. My particular forte that
> helped accomplish such a necessary task is that I am more stubburn
> than a pig, meaner than a snake and smarter than the average bear.
> Much to my chagrin, I am just an average sort of chess player and have
> much to learn from Bobby in that regard but I maintain that chess is
> just a game. Bobby was compelled to play a far more serious and deadly
> game just because of his love of a game. I do recognize his talent but
> my hat is off to him because of what he did and stood for as a man not
> a chess player. In regards to his legal actions methinks I can teach
> his attorney a trick or two of mine.
>
> If anyone has any questions here is my phone number. 506 434-1379
> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 506 434-1379
> end_of_the_skype_highlighting Feel free to argue me and stress test my
> ethics to the max. It is your freedom as well as my own that I am
> protecting. I think anyone has the right to question my motives. I
> speak plainly and do not hide my identity. Integrity does not need a
> mask to hide behind. However men like John Ashcroft and all his
> cohorts need jails to cage honest men who speak their mind about their
> masks of virtue.
>
> Bobby is just one man of many. His is fortunate that he is famous.
> Iceland would not do such things on behalf of the likes of me and many
> others. However Canada or Japan or whatever would do the same against
> me to support President Bush in a New York minute. In fact it already
> happened. The one file I have attached is the reason Clark Kent Ervin
> got fired immediately after the recent election. He long along proved
> to me that he was not interested in Truth Justice and the American Way
> and in fact he is a dumb as a post. I will wager I could beat him at
> chess. I know I played him like a fiddle as a lawyer and that is his
> game of choice. It was really to funny to me the advice he offered to
> others as he entered into the Aspen Crowd of nasty dudes. I feel the
> need to quote him. Many a govenment lawyer will understand why I am
> busting my gut laughing. I hope Bobby's lawyer does too.
>
> Lauren Robinson POGO Fellow " Any advice for your fellow public servants?"
>
> Clark Kent Ervin "Well, just do your job and let the political chips
> fall where they may. Unless your're willing to do that, it seems to me
> you shouldn't take the job in the first place."
>
> My answer to his remark is No Shit Sherlock. The former Inspector
> General can expect a rather profound civil lawsuit. He must argue me
> Pro Se or a at least without government assistance on his behalf
> because he failed to act within the scope of his employment and he is
> now out of the job.
>
> David Raymond Amos
>
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:12 PM
> December 7th, 2003
>
> Gene Healy Senior Editor Cato Institute
> 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
> Washington D.C. 20001-5403
> Phone (202) 842-0200 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting
> (202) 842-0200 end_of_the_skype_highlighting
> Fax (202) 842-3490
> RE: Corruption
> Sir,
> Please find enclosed an exact copy of a letter with all its enclosures
> recently sent to the Hearst Corporation and many others. Many of your
> directors such as Lewis E. Randall, John C. Malone and Jeffrey S. Yass
> should find the documents an interesting read. I ask that you make
> them available for their review.
> I watched David Boaz speak on C-Span the other day and heard him say
> many things. What I found the most interesting was that he said that
> the Cato Institute was named after some rather prolific letter
> writers. I invite you all to read mine. They can be found at the
> website mentioned in the enclosed documents. I could not send this
> letter to Mr. Boaz because he is not a lawyer and an officer of the
> court as you are. This is because only law enforcement authorities or
> officers of the court have any right to listen to the copy of wiretap
> numbered 139. It is served upon you in confidence as an officer of the
> court in order that you may act ethically and see that it is properly
> investigated. Please share the contents of the Cd with only the proper
> authorities so that I may never be accused of violating anyone’s
> Fourth Amendment Rights.
> As I have said to many other lawyers, at the very least I have now
> made you a witness to my pursuit of justice. I ask you simply the
> following. What will you do with your newfound knowledge of Civil
> Rights Violations and Government Corruption?
> Best Regards
> David R.Amos
> 153 Alvin Ave.
> Milton MA. 02186
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:22 PM
> Um, as I was saying about some people being, um, a bit....well,
> "different."
>
> Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 27, 2005 09:12 PM
> Did I mention that I found snotty Oxford dudes had stuffed shirts and
> were great fun to poke fun at as they bullshit others about how smart
> they are?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: marnie.ferguson@keyporter.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:08 PM
> Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: deborahlbmc@yahoo.com ; egeetter@bu.edu ;
> dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; lawrence_summers@harvard.edu ;
> wrogersjr@therogerslawfirm.com ; thomas.hannigan@ropesgray.com ;
> jotodd@toddweld.com
> Cc: warren.tolman@hklaw.com ; dan@dankennedy.net ; w.kirtz@neu.edu ;
> howiecarr@wrko.com ; bzelnick@bu.edu ; n.daniloff@neu.edu ;
> barnicle@969fmtalk.com ; wsj.ltrs@wsj.com ; amy.wolfcale@dowjones.com
> ; joseph.stern@dowjones.com ; letters@washpost.com ; fair@fair.org ;
> editor@usatoday.com ; pressreleases@upi.com ; letters@time.com ;
> newshour@pbs.org ; ombudsman@npr.org ; morning@npr.org ;
> letters@newsweek.com ; nytnews@nytimes.com ;
> dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; gillooly@dailyfreepress.com ;
> dfpnews@dailyfreepress.com ; 48hours@cbsnews.com ; pr@ap.org ;
> nightline@abcnews.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:21 PM
> Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>
>
> Hey
>
> It appears that all the Law Schools know nothing of ethical behavior
> if it may affect their coffers. I made it my task to prove it. Lets
> see if I can turn the worm and make the light dawn on Marblehead for
> the benefit of all.
>
> Whereas Todd Klipp is on Legal Advisory Committee United Educators
> (UE) Insurance Risk Retention Group I called Corporate Counsel, Jan
> Holt and told her something is up and that I would be serving the Hard
> Copy of the evidence that proves what I say is true upon Mr. Klipp. If
> I were you I would go to the US District Court in Beantown, query the
> dockets that bear my name and ask the BU professor Chief Justice Young
> about his integrity and his association with crooks like Charles J.
> Kickham Jr. and all of his cohorts.
>
> Cardinal Law would be a good witness to ask to start a proper
> investigation that is if you can get whoever becomes the next US
> Ambassador to the Vatican to make him fess up about his sins.
> Otherwise ask his former secretary Robert Kickham he is now O'Malley's
> secretary. I have no doubt that little bastard knows everything but
> trust that the three legal stooges Todd, Rogers and Hannigan have told
> him to shut up and wait for me to quit or die. However I think the
> Kickhams will soon fold their hand and start rattin out others very
> soon. Their is no honour amongst theives and I have the Kickhams
> cornered after three years of hard work. Their big daddy Chucky is
> dead and the rest of them are as dumb as a post. Uncle Franky has been
> dead since last June and I have finally forced the court to admit it.
> None of their accountings have been assented to by anyone and the IRS
> must check their work before my wife will settle. the Feds have a big
> problem and everybody knows its me.
>
> I am proud to say I won't quit and don't care if I die. I made certain
> that my truths live on and that no Kickham relatives can no longer
> claim to be kin to my little Clan. I refuse to allow my family to
> associate with bible pounding criminals that expound of law nor will I
> settle with them in order that they may escape justice. They must be
> held accountable and so should all their friends.
>
> I may seem crazy but at least I know my rights and will not allow
> wrongs against my family to go unpunished, particularly when the
> wrongs are practiced by people well paid or licensed by the state to
> insure that matters such as this never happen. If I am not crazy then
> the governments of Canada and the USA must be insanely corrupt. I know
> for a fact that there are a lot of ordinary people that agree with me
> therefore I know I am OK but I have my doubts about you. i am giving
> Mr. Klipp just enough evidence to impeach George Bush and for safe
> measure I am giving the same material to many others as well. Here's
> hoping ethics wins out after all. Otherwise we are all losers and the
> crooks within such organizations as the Aspen Institute will keep on
> advising the bastards on how to screw us all.
>
> The judges of the First Circuit of the US District Court have a lot to
> be accountable for and Judge Young is well aware of it all. He has no
> right to teach others about trial practice and the law until he proves
> that he understands how to uphold the law. I will be suing the bastard
> in short order you pick whether you wish to stand with him or me.
> There is no middle ground in this legal battle for Boston University
> to stand on. Judge Young is in your employ. However methinks he is no
> longer a feather in your cap. The University has bragged to have such
> a man to teach the students. What say you now?
>
> Trust that I don't care if anyone reads this email or not. In fact it
> will be more fun if ya didn't.
>
> "The Honorable William G. Young was appointed judge of the U.S.
> District Court for Massachusetts in 1984, after serving as associate
> justice of the state’s Superior Court. Prior positions include special
> assistant attorney general, chief counsel to the governor, and clerk
> for the Honorable Raymond Wilkins, former chief justice of the
> Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Judge Young has a long list of
> pro bono activities, teaching experience, and several awards,
> including the Award for Judicial Excellence from the Massachusetts
> Academy of Trial Attorneys. Judge Young developed the course Advanced
> Trial Practice and also teaches Evidence."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: jb95@bu.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:02 PM
> Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: MauraH@ci.boston.ma.us ; maurah@maurahennigan.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:36 PM
> Subject: I just called I am not kidding
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: info@pogo.org ; elliot.gerson@aspeninstitute.org ;
> pat.zindulka@aspeninstitute.org ; peter. reiling@aspeninstitute.org ;
> clark.ervin@aspeninstitute.org
> Cc: brian@questionsquestions.net ; plough@ploughshares.ca ; moto
> maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ; kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; backtalk@motherjones.com
> ; Wes Penre@Illuminati News.com ; tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ;
> david@davidakin.com ; McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
> INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca ;
> Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
> Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
> Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:30 AM
> Subject: I just left voicemail for Jim Spiegelman
>
>
> Hey Fellas
> I have picked you Mr. Gerson to send exactly the same material that I
> sent to two Solicitor Generals last year before I ran for Parliament
> in Canada. I am certain that material caused Theodore Olson to quit
> his job and your brand new fellow, Clark Kent Erwin to get the boot
> from his job right after the last Yankee election.
> Obviously I picked you because of your own bragging. There is no need
> for me to expand upon things that you and I know to be true. It is
> merely my task to prove to the world that you are well aware of my
> concerns and allegations. Then if you and your Association does
> nothing to uphold the public trust, I will make it my best effort to
> embarrass you all in court in front of a jury of my peers. You people
> claim to inspire people to ethical leaders? I say Bullshit. What say
> you?
> Say Hey to Superman for me. Will ya? Yea I know I just did but he
> likes to keep everything in confidence while his cohorts keep me
> falsely imprisoned. However I plan to call him to testify during my
> pending criminal trial as I have the right to do. I should be very
> interesting to see if he takes the fifth.
> David R. Amos
>
>
> "Elliot Gerson is responsible for the Aspen Institute's seminars,
> including the Executive Seminar, topical and custom seminars, and
> those offered in the Society of Fellows and Socrates programs. He also
> manages the Institute's public programs and activities, including the
> Aspen Ideas Festival. He is a graduate of Harvard College, Oxford
> University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar, and Yale Law School. As
> American Secretary of the Rhodes Trust, he manages the U.S. Rhodes
> Scholarships and is an advisor to the Mandela Rhodes Foundation in
> Cape Town, which focuses on African higher education and leadership.
> He was a U. S. Supreme Court clerk and has had a career including the
> practice of law, executive positions in state and federal government
> and a presidential campaign, president of leading insurance and
> healthcare companies, and service on many non-profit boards,
> especially in the arts."
>
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:23 PM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: backtalk@motherjones.com
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:01 PM
> Subject: Fw: Cya in court Cato
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ; tcarpent@cato.org ;
> dboaz@cato.org ; rpilon@cato.org ; cpreble@cato.org ; tlynch@cato.org
> ; blindsey@cato.org ; rlevy@cato.org ; tfirey@cato.org ;
> ecrane@cato.org
> Cc: Wes Penre@Illuminati News ; freedom_of_information@yahoogroups.com
> ; Letters@globeandmail.ca ; webmaster@canadalawcourts.com ; lloyd
> brinson ; J. D. Kuntz ; elois@newdata.ca ; Jack Hook ; John Bjornstrom
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 8:47 PM
> Subject: Cya in court Cato
>
>
>
> Hey Tommy Boy
> You invited me. These are your words correct? I tried to register on
> line but your link does not work. I want to come. we should be in
> agreement in most things but I know we are not and we should really
> talk about it before I file my civil lawsuits. You people have already
> proven to me your malice. this is your last chance to act ethically.
> My criminal trial will begin shortly thereafter and I may call some of
> you to testify at it. One of them could be you. I am one of those
> people that many already turn to for an honest opinion. Right or wrong
> they know my answer comes from sincere ethical consideration because I
> am more a man of my word than legions of lawyers ever were. I am good
> to my friends and sheer hell to my foes. I hate the false fronts of
> integrity of the people you joke about within your following
> invitation. You are joking. I am not.
> Dear Friend,
>
> Would you like to be the person to whom others turn for an explanation
> of the debate over Social Security and retirement, the economics of
> international trade, or how to control pollution and protect the
> environment through incentives? Would you like to be better able to
> explain the benefits of free markets, private property, and free trade
> to your friends, colleagues, and family members?
>
> If so, you should come to Washington, D.C., for the Cato University
> seminar April 28 to May 1 on Applied Economics: User-Friendly Tools to
> Understand Politics, Business Enterprise, and Life. The faculty
> includes top-level economists and policy experts from universities and
> the Cato Institute.
>
> The seminar will be held in the F. A. Hayek Auditorium of the Cato
> Institute, with dinner and a tour at Mount Vernon, the historic home
> of George Washington.
>
> Our goal is to help attendees become the people to whom their friends
> turn to explain the economy and how political interference in markets
> tends to generate disaster. And there's a reason it's being held in
> Washington, D.C. You see, we want to change fundamentally the culture
> of Washington, D.C. Washington's a very strange city. Most of the
> people here spend their working days taking from Peter to give to Paul
> (minus a substantial cut, of course). Or writing minute and
> incomprehensible "regulations" on the optimal size of broccoli, or
> warning people to wear sensible shoes, or just figuring out new ways
> to strip American citizens of their rights and dignity.
>
> You can come to D.C. for a long weekend and learn how to change that.
> You'll learn how to make the arguments that will convince your
> friends, coworkers, and neighbors that they don't need or benefit from
> all those rules, redistributions, regulations, and rip-offs.
>
> You're invited to attend one Cato University seminar, or two, or
> three. Each is a stand alone seminar, but all three are complementary.
> (The other two are on history and on the art and technique of
> persuasion.)
>
> Please check out the faculty and schedule, and register using our
> secure registration form. Online registration is safe, easy, and fast.
>
> Come to Washington, D.C. ... and learn how to change it.
>
> I look forward to welcoming you to Cato University this year.
>
> Cordially,
>
> and Signed by you. Tom Palmer
>
> In order not to be somehow overlooked, I just called you cell phone to
> cell phone so that I would have a record of contact to let you know we
> had a problem to discuss. You were to busy to talk so you missed your
> chance. Methinks you are a fine example of the reason your buddy Gene
> Healy and his ilk ignored me. I read enough of your work to think you
> are a very snotty tall talking whore for the Global Corps. I wanted to
> hear your voice to be certain my feelings were correct. You did not
> dissappoint me. If you don't like my opinion of you, sue me and bring
> all these emails to court. I promise I will not file a motion to
> dismiss. In fact I can't wait to meet your lawyers. I thought what you
> said about Bobby Fischer was far more offensive and as you can see I
> blogged in his defense. Many people call me crazy too. That seem to be
> the label bad actors put on someone when they are cornered. I wanted
> you to hear my voice so that you would understand that I am not nuts
> but very sincere. when you shunned my last words were see you in
> court. Ignore me some more and you certainly will. Check my work
> before you laugh and call me crazy too.
> In order to prove you all I am serious I will send Roger Pilon, Vice
> President for Legal Affairs at 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.,
> Washington D.C. 20001-5403 hard copy of exactly the same material I
> sent to two Solicitor Generals last year just before I ran for
> Parliament. Teddy Olson quit and went into private practice as soon as
> Stephen Harper opened his mouth about the Arar Inquiry but thus far
> Landslide Annie has hung onto hers. Now if you have any questions of
> me before we meet, ask them to New Canadian Ambassador Franky Boy
> McKenna. He knows exactly who I am and what has happened in the year
> since. If you want a Yankee perspective ask John Ashcroft, John
> Edwards. Tom Ridge, Clark Kent Ervin, Theodore Olson or David
> Aufhauser to name a few. They all are now free agents and in the same
> hot water as your buddy and now you.
> I emailed ya, blogged ya, called ya and am now telling some your
> friends plus a few of mine for good measure. Under Title 18 of the
> federal code you are all as guilty as everyone else if you don't get
> honest real fast. Ask Frank Quatronne and Martha Stewart about email
> evidence in federal court
> In light of the reasons I was falsely imprisoned and what I had sent
> you dudes the year before it makes Cato's work in "Go Directly to
> Jail: The Criminalization of Almost Everything." a total bullshit
> piece of work. It is my job to properly shame you bastards so that
> nobody will take you seriously ever again.
>
> "At one time, the sanction of the criminal law was reserved for
> serious, morally culpable offenders. But during the past 40 years, an
> unholy alliance of tough-on-crime conservatives and anti-big-business
> liberals has utterly transformed the criminal law. Today, while
> violent crime often goes unpunished, Congress continues to add new,
> trivial offenses to the federal criminal code. With more than 4,000
> federal offenses on the statute books, and thousands more buried in
> the Code of Federal Regulations, it is now frighteningly easy for
> American citizens to be hauled off to jail for actions that no
> reasonable person would regard as crimes. At the same time, rampant
> federalization and mandatory minimum sentencing are making America’s
> criminal justice system ever more centralized and punitive. The result
> is a labyrinthine criminal code, a burgeoning prison population, and
> often real injustice. Go Directly to Jail examines those alarming
> trends and proposes reforms that could rein in a criminal justice
> apparatus at war with fairness and common sense."
> If you dudes do not want me to turn up after being invited please let
> me know why in writing and introduce me to the lawyer I will be
> arguing someday in court.
> David R. Amos
> 153 Alvin Ave.
> Milton, MA 02186
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: dante17678@hotmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:20 AM
> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: rjvattuone@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:04 AM
> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: lsewell@canadians.org
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:27 AM
> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: jeffryhouse@hotmail.com
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:03 AM
> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca ; Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca ; Jack Layton ;
> Easter.W@parl.gc.ca ; Cadman.C@parl.gc.ca ; Casey.B@parl.gc.ca ;
> Thompson.G@parl.gc.ca
> Cc: McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca ;
> macaul1@parl.gc.ca ; Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca ; Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca ;
> Anderson.D@parl.gc.ca ; Anderson.Da@parl.gc.ca ;
> david.anderson1@sk.sympatico.ca
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:12 PM
> Subject: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>
>
> I got a better one for ya Petey Boy. "Thar she blows". I bet Belinda
> is really pissed off at everybody and is letting off some steam. If I
> were you I would start bailing out of your new party like any other
> rat that would desert a sinking ship. That is one boat that could
> never float. The way you back stabbed your way into its creation will
> likely never be forgotten. Some of the new Senators Martin just
> appointed proved that didn't they? Right now you are just hanging on
> and kissing Harper's arse because nobody else will ever trust you in
> their Dory except maybe the diddler, Billy Matthews. He is used to
> turningcoat and needs help bailing out his punky little craft. I think
> the liberals are tired of him by now and Johnny Crosbie is likely
> pretty pissed at him too. I think you two dudes should be good company
> for each other as everybody else tries to distance themselves from a
> couple of cry babies that call themselves Maritimers. You were born
> there alright but a lair lawyer and a nasty old diddler reflect poorly
> upon the rest of us. But bad apples fall from the best of trees. The
> sooner the better so that they don't suck the sap out of the good
> ones.
> Dare to argue me Petey Boy? I am ten times meaner with no temper than
> the man that pitches silly fits kicks chairs. I would kick your arse
> in a good debate. I would laugh if you asked me to step outside, head
> for the door and quit talking immediately in a sincere effort to kick
> your arse in the street. Win or lose, rest assured I would have fun.
> Fighting is a true Maritime tradition. EH MacKay? Feel free to try to
> call me a liar. Everybody knows it would be a case of the pot trying
> to call the kettle black.
>
> "The Nova Scotia MP described his relations with Conservative Leader
> Stephen Harper as "hunky-dory, everything's great - that's a good
> Maritime phrase."
> Forwarded Message
>
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:14:47 -0800 (PST)
>
> From: David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> Subject: Attn Don Amos
>
> To: MEC.investors@magnaent.com, dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca,
> smay@pattersonpalmer.ca
>
> As I stated within an earlier email, Scott Daruty finally called me
> back and pissed me off. He picked the wrong guy to try and toy with. I
> will take up my concerns with Magna byway of Daruty and Cellucci down
> here in the Yankee courts. I have much proof of what I sent Belinda
> Stronach long before she ever became a Member of Parliament up home. I
> will deal with her in a political fashion first to see if she is
> interested in up holding the public trust while protecting her
> interests in Magna. Good luck with your conscience as a lawyer named
> Amos as you check my work. Here is my phone number 506 434-1379
> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 506 434-1379
> end_of_the_skype_highlighting if you have any questions before
> deciding whether or not to uphold the law and protect the investor's
> interests in Magna from my necessary civil actions. I gave my material
> to Argeo P. Cellucci in Canada in July of 2002 before I sent the
> Sheriffs out with my first complaints. I know by the fax numbers at
> the top of my first complaint that it was Ashcroft and Cellucci that
> directed the US Attorney to try to make my complaints evaporate. Now
> that Cellucci speaks for Magna and Belinda speaks for Canadians there
> is a couple of Amos boys that should have along talk about many
> things. But forget trying to label me as your brother until I am
> assured of your integrity. I have a high contempt towards lawyers and
> their sense of ethics for very justifiable reasons.
>
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca ; moto maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ;
> kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; danthebagelman@msn.com ; info@electtomobrien.com ;
> lcampenella@ledger.com ; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; newsonline@bbc.co.uk ;
> Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
> Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
> Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ;
> MEC.investors@magnaent.com
> Cc: zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ; savoya2@parl.gc.ca ;
> thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ;
> martib@sen.parl.gc.ca ; dougchristielaw@shaw.ca ;
> Mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ; Stephen.Murphy@ci.boston.ma.us ;
> Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
> johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ; brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca ;
> McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
> INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:14 PM
> Subject: Shame on you Della
>
>
> At least I am a man of my word. I called you personally as I stated I
> would. I have the record of the call that I was directed to do by your
> boss, Stevey Boy May. Too bad you would not speak to me to protect
> your own interests. At least I have your signature because no word
> from you is worthless to me. You can never claim ignorance of my
> concerns after directing me to your lawyer. I stuck my hand out to you
> as a layman but you had picked your friends the lawyers and had
> enlisted them to bite it? Do you really Think I am afraid of dealing
> with the likes of Johnny Crosbie and Stevey Boy May when I am
> preparing a lawsuit against the likes of John Edwards, John Ashcroft
> and Theodore Olson to name a few? Plus there is the irrefutable fact
> that you and the law firm you work for have already admitted that you
> are aware of the crimes practiced against me. You have done nothing to
> uphold the law and have already filed the evidence of that fact in the
> Newfoundland Supreme Court. Lady, either I or my estate will bankrupt
> you and your firm with its own sworn testimony that you witnessed. You
> can take that to the bank. The first question I must ask you Della
> what did your law fir do with its copy of the police surveillance tape
> # 139 and did you listen to it? You should not have because you are
> not an officer of the court nor are you employed by law enforcement.
> The Lieutenant Governor Roberts notified me that he had given his
> copies of the material to Tommy Marshall to be investigated but I have
> received no word from your law firm as to what the hell they did with
> their copies. Have your lawyers explain their integrity to you because
> you and I will never come to an understanding of ethical behavior
> after your treatment of me today. I often sing the praises of Newfys
> because they are amongst the nicest folks on the planet excepting of
> course their lawyers and their cohorts such as you Della. By the way I
> heard about the clerks in Supreme Court having a little wager over who
> buys lunch if I managed to do what I said I would do. I would like to
> meet the lady who felt I was as serious as a heart attack and willing
> to buy lunch if I was not a man of my word. I would love to buy her
> lunch some time because the courts need more folks like her in their
> employment. She clearly did not disregard the word of a common man.
> On the other hand after our exchange of the mere few words today it
> would not be wise for me to trust your word or typing if I had left
> the voicemail you desired. I have much evidence of many edited
> transcripts of things I have said in the past. You and I will argue
> them some day no doubt byway of your lawyer friends because I think
> you don't speak pro se very well in order to protect your personal
> interests. I just got off the phone with one of Frank Stronach's
> Yankee lawyers Scott Daruty. He did me the service of really pissing
> me off today by finally calling me back after I had torn a piece off
> of Magna in Canada about his neglect of duty on their behalf. He
> thought he was funny by joking that the Canadian lawyer, Don Amos was
> my brother. No lawyer is a brother of mine. He thought I was joking
> when I told him I would sue him personally if he did not uphold the
> law and rat out Magna's brand new Vice President his brother, Argeo P.
> Cellucci so I had to repeat myself so he would understand me in no
> uncertain terms. I do make a lot of jokes about very serious business
> however it would not be wise to underestimate my sincerity and attempt
> to toy with me. I enjoy a good fight win or lose as long as I stand on
> the right side of the battle. You just picked a fight with me lady on
> a day when I ain't taking prisoners from lawyers or their cohorts. All
> lawyers are liars and I have proven it. It is only laymen I will
> settle with from now on and only if they tell the truth, the whole
> truth and nothing but the truth.
> I don't care if your god helps you or not. We can all do it again in
> hell for all I care.
> From now on I must rely on hard copy of my own creation. For now I
> will send you and Stevey Boy a bunch of emails that have been
> forwarded to many other people first. I require the record of doing
> so. Whereas I have no doubt Stevey Boy will wan to argue about the
> emails I have already sent I figure why not be hung for a cow as a
> calf? Since everything in heaven and hell is done in threes. I will
> forward to Magna's lawyer, Don Amos, Stevey Boy and three large emails
> that contain Tiff files. There is no need to be redundant with hard
> copy already sent to Scott Daruty and Johnny Crosbie. You can tell the
> folks at Patterson Palmer who directed you to offend me that the
> emails contain exactly the same documents that Greg Byrne and Johnny
> Crosbie received and that you should all prepare to argue every word
> within in them. The first email contains a file called Big Day. It
> contains every document I served upon Two Solicitors Generals Theodore
> Olson and Anne McLellan before I ran for Parliament and Olson quit his
> job on June 24th immediately after Johnny Crosbie told Stevey Harper
> to shut up about the Arar Inquiry. the second file is called Big
> Canada Add and it is a copy of the documents served upon my political
> opponents while running for Parliament. Last but not least are what
> was added to the first to pile of documents and then served upon
> Patterson and Palmer by way of Greg Byrne.
> Scott Daruty is receiving the documents within "Big Day" and other
> interesting material that Magna should find quite interesting to say
> the least. Magna really made my day when they appointed Cellucci and
> their new VP. I is comical that he is going to lobby the government
> about horse racing especially after listening to what is recorded on a
> lot of the tapes and the fact that the top dog of the RCMP had to
> teach that dumb Yankee how to ride a horse last summer so that he
> would not make an ass out himself at the Calgary Stampede. This was
> almost as rich as when Martin sent Franky McKenna to Washington after
> he and I had a spit and chew about dogs and pork. At least I am clever
> enough to realize when I am a lucky man and how to make the best out
> of a golden opportunity to see that justice is served upon some very
> nasty bastards. I am very pissed off but still having more fun than
> ten men. I love cornering lawyers and listening to them stutter and
> try to duck the issues. I will wager that you are having a bad day
> too. EH Della? It looks good on you if you are. Why not get mad? I
> hope you share your anger with the others at Patterson and Palmer and
> start bitchin about me. Never forget all I want is the truth from you.
> It will cost you nothing. Why do you want to stand with crooks and
> liars for a days pay? I bet you have witnessed lots of dirty dealings.
> I truly beleive that there is no honour in your work. To me working
> for lawyers is like a lady being sent to a nunnery in Medieval times.
> I share ol Shake's opinion of such a place. Times changes nothing
> lawyers still work for Jesuits. Look around downtown St John's and
> call me a liar. I dare ya. Even the name of the town says it all.
> Cya'll in Court:)
> David R. Amos
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca ; moto maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ;
> kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; danthebagelman@msn.com ; info@electtomobrien.com ;
> lcampenella@ledger.com ; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; newsonline@bbc.co.uk ;
> Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
> Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
> Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com
> Cc: zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ; savoya2@parl.gc.ca ;
> thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ;
> martib@sen.parl.gc.ca ; dougchristielaw@shaw.ca ;
> Mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ; Stephen.Murphy@ci.boston.ma.us ;
> Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
> johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ; brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca ;
> McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
> INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:33 AM
> Subject: RE: Me versus Patterson and Palmer
>
>
> Hey Della,
> I see that Stevey Boy is on vacation and told me to contact you. I am
> happy to hear that he is saving all of my emails in a special spot for
> some apparent future litigation. I keep very good records as well and
> look forward to his argument but I will wager that I sue him first.
> I see by the following Affidavit you witnessed and Stevey Boy filed in
> court that every lawyer within Patterson Palmer is a flat out liar. I
> served Greg Byryne in Fredericton myself with witnesses before Byron
> Prior served everyone else in Newfoundland. If Byrne did not share the
> info with his buddy Johnny Crosbie, it is not my fault. Yet I suspect
> that he did so out of the gate because he sent me an email in which it
> appears that he was conferring with many others about me and my
> concerns. It was too funny that Byrne clicked the wrong button and
> forwarded his email to me as well.
> I also sent many of your people the same emails that I sent to Byrne
> and May as soon as I got out off jail last October and Stevey Boy
> first contacted Byron Prior and I had called him. (Thank you for
> making a transcript of my voicemail and filing it in court for me. It
> is quite hard for me to make lawyers even admit that I exist) Some of
> the aforesaid emails were responded to by other members of your law
> firm byway of their computers like Stevey Boy's just did. At least
> computers are far more honest than the lawyers that own them. I am
> compelled to rely on the integrity of their machines and the ability
> of their computers and mine to keep perfect records. (Never forget I
> am being prosecuted for sending an email to a lawyer I have been
> litigating against for years who even went as far to fraudulently
> create a document bearing my signature) Because of the fact I can
> prove contact with many members of the law firm you work for, they can
> never say that they did not know of my concerns and allegations long
> before Stevey complained of Byron Prior's actions on behalf of his
> client Billy Matthews. He only went forward with his malicious threat
> when he thought my goose was cooked down here. There is quite simply
> no way you could have prepared his filing on January 21st and he had
> Judge green sign it in the time between Byron had served it and the
> Judge signed it without the Bastards reading our private emails and
> listening to our phone calls. I sent the last email containing the
> words to Byron's counterclaim just before I went to court that morning
> and he only managed to see it filed by 3 PM Newfy time. You may be a
> fast typists but the courts don't work that fast unless they are
> covering up something big time. No know as well as I that is true
> because the judge and Stevey Boy do not even want other lawyers to
> view the public record. Small wonder he took a vacation. If Stevey Boy
> has any semblance of a conscience he no doubt has trouble dealing with
> himself. I can only wonder if he and Johnny Crosbie are singing for
> more tequila right now.
> As you no doubt know I am preparing to defend myself in a criminal
> trial in the USA and filing some rather profound civil lawsuits in
> Canada and the USA that will make the whining of Billy Matthews in
> Newfoundland Supreme court seem rather comical. I will be filing
> copies of the documents you no doubt helped create for Stevey Boy May
> on behalf of your law firm in many courts.
> If Greg Byrne, the former Minister of Justice and Attorney General of
> New Brunswick had acted ethically last September while I was in Canada
> and under Brad Green's jurisdiction I would not have been falsely
> imprisoned in the USA the following month. I will be suing him, your
> law firm and many others for personal injury and conspiracy to cover
> up the many crimes practiced against my Clan and I. My question to
> you, Della is why don't I sue you too? As you can see if you have read
> my work my battle is with corrupt lawyers not layman. I would settle
> with you in a heartbeat for costs if you would be honest about all
> that you know to be true. If you decide to go against me I suggest
> that you seek legal counsel outside of your law firm or in fact all of
> Newfoundland. I am about to take on every damned lawyer within the
> Newfoundland law Society. You would not be wise to doubt me before you
> have a look at my work in the USA. I will deal with Newfys under the
> heading of fun after I have embarrassed the Yankees.
> I will give you a call as Stevey Boy suggests so that at least you can
> understand that I am not an unreasonable person and not the sort of
> person that lawyers claim that I am. I am just a simple, sincere and
> serious man that refuses to play the wicked games lawyers play. I am
> willing to die in order to expose the truth. No lawyer can say that.
> they love money to much to be willing to miss the chance to spend it.
> Judge me for yourself and your own best interests before you choose
> whom to stand with.
> Whether you believe me or not I am battling for your rights as well as
> my own. I am forwarding this email to many ordinary people like you
> and me. To Hell with the lawyers and politicians. They do what they do
> for personal gain not public service. Their concerns are lucre not
> justice and everybody knows it. All I did was go to great lengths to
> prove it. There is no need for you and I to argue about simple truths.
> As far as I am concerned up until the time you received this email all
> you have done is type things and witness signatures. However you
> cannot say that anymore.
> My pending phone call to you is not harassment. I need the Yankee
> phone bill record of my call to you in order to assist in the defence
> of my freedom in the USA. Stevey Boy told me to call ya. Please be
> nice. After today you can't say that you are not involved in my false
> imprisonment in the USA. I am doing no more or less than Stevey Boy
> and his malicious clients would do if the same thing had happened to
> them. If Billy Matthews had been summoned to the USA while he was
> running for his seat in Parliament to be presecuted by an unsigned
> criminal complaint and then held without bail under the charges of
> "other", he would be more pissed off than I am.
> Cya'll in Court:)
> David R. Amos
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "May, Steve"
> To: "David Amos"
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:32 PM
> Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Dan and Tom Remember me
>
>
> Mr. May is out of the office till 11 April 2005. He will not be
> checking his e-mail. Please contact Della Hart at 709-570-5527
> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 709-570-5527
> end_of_the_skype_highlighting or dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca if you
> require immediate assistance.
>
>
> 2005 01 T 0010
> IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR
> TRIAL DIVISION
> BETWEEN:
> WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF
> AND:
> BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT
>
> AND BETWEEN:
> BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT/PLAINTIFF
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF/FIRST DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: T. ALEX HICKMAN SECOND DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: THOMAS MARSHALL THIRD DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: DANNY WILLIAMS FOURTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: EDWARD M. ROBERTS FIFTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: JOHN CROSBIE SIXTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: PATTERSON PALMER SEVENTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
> SUMMARY OF CURRENT DOCUMENTCourt File Number(s):2005 01 T 0010Date of
> Filing of Document:25 January 2005Name of Filing Party or
> Person:Stephen J. MayApplication to which Document being filed
> relates:Amended Application of the Plaintiff/Defendant by Counterclaim
> to maintain an Order restricting publication, to strike portions of
> the Statement of Defence, strike the Counterclaim in it’s entirety,
> and to refer this proceeding to case management.Statement of purpose
> in filing:To maintain an Order restricting publication, to strike
> portions of the Statement of Defence, strike the Counterclaim in its
> entirety and refer this proceeding to case management.
> A F F I D A V I T
>
> I, Stephen J. May, of the City of St. John’s, in the Province of
> Newfoundland and Labrador, Barrister and Solicitor, make oath and say
> as follows:
>
> THAT I am a Partner in the St. John’s office of PATTERSON PALMER
> solicitors for William Matthews, the Member of Parliament for
> Random-Burin-St. George’s in the Parliament of Canada.
>
> THAT Mr. Matthews originally retained Mr. Edward Roberts, Q.C. on or
> about 30 April 2002 after Mr. Byron Prior, the Defendant/Plaintiff by
> Counterclaim, had made allegations against Mr. Matthews in a
> publication called “My Inheritance - The truth - Not Fiction: A Town
> with a Secret”. In that publication, the allegation was made that Mr.
> Matthews had had sex with a girl who had been prostituted by her
> mother. That girl was alleged to have been Mr. Prior’s sister.
>
> THAT upon being retained, Mr. Edward Roberts wrote a letter to Mr.
> Prior. That letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit “1" to my
> Affidavit.
>
> THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts’ letter to Mr. Prior, Mr. Roberts
> received a 1 May 2002 e-mail from Mr. Prior. That e-mail is attached
> as Exhibit “2".
>
> THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts receipt of the e-mail, Mr. Prior swore
> an Affidavit acknowledging that what had been said in that publication
> was false. That Affidavit is attached as Exhibit “3" to my Affidavit.
> Following Mr. Roberts’ receipt of that Affidavit, Mr. Matthews advised
> that he was satisfied not to pursue the matter any further and our
> firm closed our file.
>
> THAT on or about 25 October 2004, I was retained by Mr. Matthews
> following his gaining knowledge that a web site, made a series of
> allegations against him relating to my having sex with a girl of
> approximately 12 years old through to an approximate age of 15 years
> old. It also accused him of being a father of one of her children and
> accused him of having raped that girl. Upon checking the web site I
> saw that Byron Prior, the Defendant, had been identified as the author
> of the material on the site.
>
> THAT Mr. Matthews instructed me to write Mr. Prior, to remind him of
> the fact that the allegations had been admitted to being false through
> a 16 May 2002 Affidavit to advise him of Mr. Matthews’ intentions to
> commence legal proceedings if the comments were not removed from the
> web site. A copy of my letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit “4"
> to this Affidavit.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit “5" a transcript from a 5 November 2004
> voicemail left by David Amos, identified in the voicemail as a friend
> of Mr. Prior.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit “6" a portion of a 6 November 2004 e-mail
> from Mr. Amos.
>
> THAT until I received his voicemail and e-mail, I had never heard of Mr.
> Amos.
>
> THAT Mr. Amos has continued to send me e-mail since his 5 November
> e-mail. Including his 6 November 2004 e-mail, I have received a total
> of 15 e-mails as of 23 January 2005. All do not address Mr. Matthews’
> claim or my involvement as Mr. Matthews’ solicitor. I attach as
> Exhibit “7" a portion of a 12 January 2005 e-mail that Mr. Amos sent
> to me but originally came to my attention through Ms. Lois Skanes
> whose firm had received a copy. This e-mail followed the service of
> the Statement of Claim on 11 January 2005 on Mr. Prior. I also attach
> as Exhibit “8" a copy of a 19 January 2005 e-mail from Mr. Amos.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit “9" a copy of a 22 November 2004 letter
> addressed to me from Edward Roberts, the Lieutenant Governor of
> Newfoundland and Labrador covering a 2 September 2004 letter from Mr.
> Amos addressed to John Crosbie, Edward Roberts, in his capacity as
> Lieutenant Governor, Danny Williams, in his capacity as Premier of
> Newfoundland and Labrador, and Brian F. Furey, President of the Law
> Society of Newfoundland and Labrador. I requested a copy of this
> letter from Government House after asking Mr. Roberts if he had
> received any correspondence from Mr. Amos during his previous
> representation of Mr. Matthews. He advised me that he received a
> letter since becoming Lieutenant Governor, portions of which involved
> his representation of Mr. Matthews. Mr. Roberts’ letter also covered
> his reply to Mr. Amos.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit “10" an e-mail from Mr. Amos received on
> Sunday, 23 January 2005.
>
> THAT I swear this Affidavit in support of the Application to strike
> Mr. Prior’s counterclaim.
>
>
> SWORN to before me at
> St. John’s, Province of Newfoundland
> and Labrador this 24th day of
> January, 2005.
>
>
> Signed by Della Hart STEPHEN J. MAY Signature
> STAMP
> DELLA HART
> A Commissioner for Oaths in and for
> the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.
> My commission expires on December 31, 2009.
> The Conservatives in Canada have very Punky Dory EH Tommy Boy?
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:26 PM
> The Cato dudes ain't got nothin on me when it comes to letter writing.
> Here is where I am teasing abunch of dumb Yankees. The whole world
> calls our Newfys dumb. So what does that say of Danny williams the
> Premier? He is a Rhodes Scholar that works for free. Is he dumb or
> evil? I will have to ask the Aspen Dudes have I attend Tommy's little
> hoe down EH?
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:38 PM
> http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2005/03/former_dhs_insp.html#comments
> HMMM no link we will try this way ok?
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:40 PM
> I'm very proud to have had such a person as David Amos, help us with
> our fight and the legal work. I will never be able to repay him.Thank
> you David.
> Byron Prior
>
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>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:35:16 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: I called the crook from Calgary Jason Kenney to remind
> him of the documents his office recieved from during the election of
> the 40th Parliament
> To: breitg@parl.gc.ca, hollam@parl.gc.ca, Mourani.Ma@parl.gc.ca,
> wrzesb@parl.gc.ca, Kania.A@parl.gc.ca, McColeman.P@parl.gc.ca,
> gloves@parl.gc.ca, rick@ricknorlock.ca, macked@parl.gc.ca,
> Desnoyers.L@parl.gc.ca, rathgb0@parl.gc.ca, SECU@parl.gc.ca
> Cc: zorroboy2009@hotmail.com, tony@peoplestandup.ca,
> waterwarcrimes@gmail.com, whistleblower <whistleblower@ctv.ca>,
> "ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca"<ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>, vickiconrad
> <vickiconrad@nsndp.ca>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 19:33:09 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: I called the crook from Calgary Jason Kenney to remind
> him of the documents his office recieved from during the election of
> the 40th Parliament
> To: peter.teasdale@gov.ab.ca, larry.stein@gov.ab.ca
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:52:15 -0300
> Subject: I called the crook from Calgary Jason Kenney to remind him of
> the documents his office recieved from during the election of the 40th
> Parliament
> To: kennej@parl.gc.ca, godiny <godiny@parl.gc.ca>, toewsv1
> <toewsv1@mts.net>, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca>, robin reid
> <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, "ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca"
> <ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>, tony <tony@peoplestandup.ca>,
> WaterWarCrimes <waterwarcrimes@gmail.com>, "Wayne.Lang"
> <Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "John.DeWinter"
> <John.DeWinter@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, billestabrooks
> <billestabrooks@navnet.net>
> Cc: pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "info@gg.ca"<info@gg.ca>, info
> <info@wildrosealliance.ca>, info <info@greenparty.ca>, IgnatM
> <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>, LaytoJ <LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>
>
> His snotty help picked a very bad day to play games with me EH Vic
> Toews? Although Kenney never cared about my human rights as he laughed
> while i was falsely imprisoned and my children were sexualy harassed
> and threatened at least he cannot deny receiving my documents twice
> thanx to an ethical government computer EH stevey boy Harper?
>
> http://www.jasonkenney.ca/EN/contact_jason/
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Minister <Minister@cic.gc.ca>
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:39:27 -0400
> Subject: RE: Sept 23rd is coming fast for another Yankee War Resister
> eh Mr Harper?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> La version française suit.
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 04:09:14 -0300
> Subject: Sept 23rd is coming fast for another Yankee War Resister eh Mr
> Harper?
> To: "Harper.S@parl.gc.ca"<Harper.S@parl.gc.ca>, Minister@cic.gc.ca,
> Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, resisters@sympatico.ca,
> Layton.J@parl.gc.ca
> Cc: nelsonresisters@gmail.com, montrealresisters@hotmail.com,
> vlannon@pacificcoast.net, goresisters@gmail.com,
> londonresisters@yahoo.ca, vanresisters@yahoo.ca,
> laverne_mott@ao.uscourts.gov, Angus.C@parl.gc.ca,
> Atamenenko.A@parl.gc.ca, Bell.C@parl.gc.ca, Bevington.D@parl.gc.ca,
> Black.D@parl.gc.ca, Blaikie.B@parl.gc.ca, Charlton.C@parl.gc.ca,
> Chow.O@parl.gc.ca, Christopherson.D@parl.gc.ca, Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca,
> Crowder.J@parl.gc.ca, Cullen.N@parl.gc.ca, Davies.L@parl.gc.ca,
> Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca, Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca, Julian.P@parl.gc.ca,
> Marston.W@parl.gc.ca, Martin.P@parl.gc.ca, Martin.T@parl.gc.ca,
> Masse.B@parl.gc.ca, Mathyssen.I@parl.gc.ca, McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca,
> Nash.P@parl.gc.ca, Priddy.P@parl.gc.ca, Savoie.D@parl.gc.ca,
> Siksay.B@parl.gc.ca, Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca, Wasylycia-Leis.J@parl.gc.ca
>
> When do ya think one will ignore his dumb lawyer such as Jeffry House,
> sprout some balls, print a pdf file and say my name?
>
> Before polling day would benefit all Canadains not just the wannabes and
> the
> wannabe Prime Ministers eh Jacky boy Layton? .
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> If your too chicken to print a pdf file perhaps you can watch Youtube then
> EH Jacky Boy Layton?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga2phTOe9es
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPkRu0dNPUc
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:16 PM
> Subject: Maybe Corey Glass should contact me before Harper gives him the
> boot EH? 506 756 8687
> To: nelsonresisters@gmail.com, montrealresisters@hotmail.com,
> vlannon@pacificcoast.net, goresisters@gmail.com, londonresisters@yahoo.ca,
> vanresisters@yahoo.ca
> Cc: Minister@cic.gc.ca, Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca,
> resisters@sympatico.ca
>
>
> http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hyjp9Xz2qeSoFhQcp6NFNoe97D-Q
>
> His purported friend Lee Zaslofsky would not give me his contact
> number for some strange reason i will never understand.
>
> I would lay odds that would have be different if I had been elected
> in the last couple of elections or was player within one of the
> established politcal parties. It certainly appears to me that fellow
> concerned Canadian citizens don't count to American war protesters and
> their outspoken supporters unless they are politcally connected EH
> Mikey Ignatieff AKA Canada's Prince of Darkness south of the 49th?
>
> That said I cannot begin to try to help anyone unless they learn how
> to help themselves and that starts with picking up the phone retuning
> calls and answering emails. N'est Pas Stevey Boy Harper?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:17:23 -0300
> Subject: Your tally of blogs about me to date dictates that maybe you
> can inspire a war resister such as Corey Glass to contact me before
> Harper gives him the boot.
> To: danf@danf.net, pm@pm.gc.ca
> Cc: irishmike02@yahoo.com, common_ills@yahoo.com, Dion.S@parl.gc.ca,
> Bevilacqua.M@parl.gc.ca, vancouvercatholicworker@yahoo.ca
>
> Like you everybody thinks I am a nut excepting of course Stevey Boy
> Harper and the dummy Dion. They just flat out hate me. Nest Pas?
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/06/david-amos-vs-bcs-liberal-premier.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/05/david-amos-high-noon-email-to-ottawa.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/05/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-4.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-3.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-2.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-1b.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/3rd-part-political-runs-in-maritimes.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/05/nfld-whistleblower-dodges-libel-charge.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/05/cow-mutilation-new-brunswick-landgrab.html



























---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 08:45:50 -0300
Subject: Fwd: I am now of the opinion that Charles Thériault is just
another bullshitter like your buddies Franky Boy McKenna, Davey Baby
Coon and Chucky Leblanc EH Davey Baby Alward?
To: donbowser@goodgov.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

http://www.isourforestreallyours.com/Isourforestreallyours/Ep_21.html

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 08:12:48 -0300
Subject: I am now of the opinion that Charles Thériault is just
another bullshitter like your buddies Franky Boy McKenna, Davey Baby
Coon and Chucky Leblanc EH Davey Baby Alward?
To: kedgwickriver@gmail.com, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, oldmaison
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
"bruce.northrup"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, execdirgen
<execdirgen@nbliberal.ca>, "macpherson.don"
<macpherson.don@dailygleaner.com>, "mclaughlin.heather"
<mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>, "Jacques.Poitras"
<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, COCMoncton
<COCMoncton@gmail.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, ppalmater
<ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca>, sunrayzulu <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>,
PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, jamiebaillie <jamiebaillie@gov.ns.ca>,
hmc <hmc@mediacoop.ca>, "Leanne.Fitch"<Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca>,
"leanne.murray"<leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, "roger.l.brown"
<roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Roger.L.Melanson"
<Roger.L.Melanson@gnb.ca>, "carl.urquhart"<carl.urquhart@gnb.ca>,
"Paul.Harpelle"<Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>, radical
<radical@radicalpress.com>, merv <merv@northwebpress.com>,
"John.Williamson"<John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, "john.warr"
<john.warr@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Wayne.Gallant"
<Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "troy.lifford"<troy.lifford@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "david.alward"
<david.alward@gnb.ca>, Brian Gallant <briangallant@nbliberal.ca>,
"brian.t.macdonald"<brian.t.macdonald@gnb.ca>, madeleine
<madeleine@berrevoets2014.ca>

http://www.isourforestreallyours.com/Isourforestreallyours/Ep_7.html

http://nbharbinger.wordpress.com/2014/04/16/nb-green-party-candidates-step-up-in-carleton-and-restigouche/

http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/film-maker-charles-theriault-on-talk.html

http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.ca/2014/05/charles-theriault-views-on-new-forest.html

Theriault's work truly is important but he is just another Pied Piper
like his many Fake Left and Green Meany buddies such as David Coon and
Dominic Cardy. As the controlled opposition they just talk the talk
but definitely don't walk the walk

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/12/methinks-that-charles-theriault-should.html

Saturday, 28 December 2013

Methinks that Charles Thériault should run for public office What say
you Chucky Leblanc and Davey Baby Alward?

http://www.isourforestreallyours.com/Isourforestreallyours/Ep_6.html

Charles Thériault exposes hypocrisy at its finest. This year, 2012,
the government of New Brunswick will create more protected zones to
conserve the environment. Protected zones are Crown Forest areas where
no logging is allowed. A large area of Crown Forest surrounding the
Irving family fishing camp on the Restigouche river has been proposed
as a protected zone, while only a few kilometres away, clear-cutting
is happening on the back-steps of cottages sitting on lots of leased
lands near lakes and rivers.

I guess only the wealthy and affluent will get to appreciate nature at
its finest in New Brunswick

http://www.isourforestreallyours.com/Isourforestreallyours/Ep_11.html

Don McCrea explains how the 1982 N.B. Crown Forest Act really came
about and why he later refused to accept the post of deputy minister
of Natural Resources.

http://www.isourforestreallyours.com/Isourforestreallyours/Ep_9.html

Charles Thériault explains how two former New Brunswick politicians,
were key players in creating and modifying the Crown Forest of 1982 in
such a way that it allows them today to exploit it to the tune of
millions

From: Andy Campbell <Andy.Campbell@bellmedia.ca>
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:42:45 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re Your concerns about the Irving Clan
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of the Fredericton bureau until Monday, Jan. 6, 2014.
Should your matter require immediate attention, please contact Nick
Moore at nick.moore@bellmedia.ca or call our main newsroom at
1-888-565-6397.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 12:42:42 -0400
Subject: Re Your concerns about the Irving Clan
To: kedgwickriver@gmail.com, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, oldmaison
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
"bruce.northrup"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, execdirgen
<execdirgen@nbliberal.ca>, "macpherson.don"
<macpherson.don@dailygleaner.com>, "mclaughlin.heather"
<mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>, "Jacques.Poitras"
<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

http://www.isourforestreallyours.com/Isourforestreallyours/Letter_to_James_Irving.html

http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/01/perhaps-rcmp-fat-fred-city-finest-andre.html

http://oldmaison.blogspot.ca/2006/04/roomers-truly-have-no-rights.html

Bonjour

Mr. David Raymond Amos,

We respectfully invite you to consider a Letter to the Editor, i.e..,
How Free Trade undermines Maritime Economic Development. We had heard
you make some representation about a U.S. company which truck out
Maritime 'wealth', as a result of not having similar .provincial
resources rights as Alberta, Many Maritimes would be potentially
interested in such an editorial.

Merci.

Office of John Stokes

The Canadian National Newspaper
internet site: http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com

Hey Mr. Stokes

Thanks for the suggestion. As you should know the most glaring example
of a company that has been raping the Maritimes with abandon for many
years is obviously the Irving Empire. However lately there are some
very nasty new players on the scene such a PCS and Corridor Resourses
etc etc. I am very busy these days and I am not a journalist. You
people are though yet it seems you would rather me say the awlful
truth than yourselves because of some possible lawsuit EH?

So be it. I will because it is not slander if one's words are true.
Perhaps you should consider checking my work and then come to court
sometime in order to listen to me argue all the smiling bastards. You
can have much of my work in a click of the button of my mouse. But
first please allow me to introduce you to the New Brunswick Securities
Commission. I got a rather interesting response from them today whilst
I was in Fredericton. They have ignored my concerns for almost a year
but now that Bernie Lord's government is getting tipsy, it appears all
the bad actors want to show me their arse just in time for me to boot it.

It is Securities Commissions such as this that allow many publicly
held companies such as Corridor Resources or Magna Entertainment etc
to get away with many things rather than remind them of the law and on
how they should conduct business in an ethical fashion. That said,
these Commisssions have no say whatsoever over the Irving Empire and
that is truly bad. It is a privately held corporation that knows very
well the power of money and on how to pay off greedy politicians in
order to get anything they want. In the nutshell of the Maritimes that
is quite simply everything. It seems that I am the only Maritimer who
is not afraid of the ghost of mean old KC Irving and his monoply game.
It has always been hard times in the Maritimes. We lament about it all
the time but our apathy and fear of the Irvings etc gives us the
govenments we deserve.

Print this if you wish. You are off the hook that Irving's lawyers
threaten ordinary folks with. I am fearless yet never reckless with
the truth. I stand by my own words and invite anyone to sue me if they
think I am a liar and wish to argue me. I hate it when the
chickenshits send crooked cops against me bearing false allegations in
a faint hearted effort to shut me up. It does the smiling bastards no
good and only serves to make matters worse.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

http://www.isourforestreallyours.com/Isourforestreallyours/Letter_to_James_Irving.html

May 7th, 2012

Mr James Irving
J.D. Irving
Saint John.

Sir,

It has come to our attention in the past week, that since the year
2009, 83,000 cubic/meters of softwood per year, transferred from
license #3 and designated for the Kedgwick lumber mill, has never, nor
has it's equivalency, seen the light of day to be processed here in
our community,

Although you may not have known of this serious transgression at the
time, I am sure that since early March, when all this came to light
you must be giving this unfortunate situation your undivided
attention.

By our quick calculation, the total conservative amount of fibre
diverted elsewhere over three years, represents 9 months of mill
operations here in Kedgwick. In other words in a period of three
years, over 2,000,000.00$ (two million dollars) of employee revenue
has been withheld from our economy. It is irrefutable.

We ask ourselves, has our community suffered because of a mistake on
your part ? Or have we suffered because of your company's lack of
moral decency by willfully diverting the wood fibre where it deemed
more profitable for you, resulting from a total disregard of legal and
binding contracts and documents.

For over a hundred years, we have been a community of workers. By the
sweat of our brows, we have been providing the labour and the
resources that are the essential elements that permit the lumber mill
to function, that permits you to make profits and we to earn a living
wage. It is a fine balance achieved by agreements and hopefully a
sense of human decency.

Of course you can understand why, as the information of this
inappropriate situation is spreading from household to household, each
time being distorted to add to the drama, the outrage amongst our
citizens is building. We are feeling violated by the unfortunate
breach of this balance. We do not wish to escalate any conflict that
may derive from this situation. All that we ask is that it be quickly
resolved and that honourable amends be presented to those who have
suffered. Namely the workers and the community.

It is in both our best interest that any negative fallout be
contained as much as possible before it becomes a matter of trial by
the public court. However to my knowledge, the media has recently been
informed of the circumstances surrounding this matter and should soon
be arriving at our doorstep.

We have been dealing with your family for many years now, your
presence amongst our community has been one of respect and we do wish
that it continues that way for we value your presence and the
symbiotic relationship that has been achieved.

Several weeks ago we have formed the Kedgwick citizens committee to
deal with all matters that affect our community. Of course this
matter, among others, has become priority for us. We ask
ourselves....... Is this truly possible? Has this really happened?
Where did the wood go? Questions that should be answered. And how do
we achieve reparation, and how do we return to a sense of mutual
respect

With respect and hoping to hear positive reactions to this matter.


Charles Thériault 506-284-2237

Member of the Kedgwick citizen's committee

Giles Girard

President of the Kedgwick citizen's committee


 Posted by  Contributing Advocate     at  09:00

























----------Original Message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 09:17:05 -0300
Subject: Re: BTW Trust that All the Green Meanies know why this stuff
by Ann Pohl and pals really pisses me off
To: annpohl@xplornet.ca, donbowser@goodgov.ca,
kedgwickriver@gmail.com, upriverwatch <upriverwatch@gmail.com>,
oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>,
"Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>, madeleine
<madeleine@berrevoets2014.ca>, "mckeen.randy"
<mckeen.randy@gmail.com>, Sheila.Goucher@gnb.ca, Craig.Leonard@gnb.ca,
"david.alward"<david.alward@gnb.ca>, Brian Gallant
<briangallant@nbliberal.ca>, execdirgen <execdirgen@nbliberal.ca>,
pmoist <pmoist@cupe.ca>, "Tom.Mann"<Tom.Mann@gnb.ca>,
Jennifer.Murray@gnb.ca, Stephan.Hamel@gnb.ca, Eilish.Cleary@gnb.ca,
David.Maguire@gnb.ca, Ombudsman@gnb.ca, dmurphy@corridor.ca, pknoll
<pknoll@corridor.ca>, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
"justin.trudeau.a1"<justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, MulcaT
<MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, td ombudsman <td.ombudsman@td.com>,
cnewcombe@corridor.ca, dgraves@corridor.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, Whistleblower
<Whistleblower@ctv.ca>, danny.soucy@gnb.ca, acampbell
<acampbell@ctv.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,
"jack.carr"<jack.carr@gnb.ca>, "paul.robichaud"
<paul.robichaud@gnb.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dena Murphy <dmurphy@corridor.ca>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 09:10:26 -0300
Subject: Out of Office: BTW Trust that All the Green Meanies know why
this stuff by Ann Pohl and pals really pisses me off
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be on maternity leave until October 1, 2014. I will only be
checking emails once or twice a week.

Dave Graves will be filling in for me while I am away.  Please contact
him by email at dgraves@corridor.ca or phone at 902-406-8023.

If you are sending an email, please also copy Carla Newcombe at
cnewcombe@corridor.ca.  If need be, she can be reached by phone at
902-406-8019.

Thanks,
Dena

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:01:00 -0300
Subject: RE John Conway of the University of Regina and his published
opinion of the demise of the NDP In SK
To: John.Conway@uregina.ca, voices@operationmaple.com, bwall
<bwall@mla.legassembly.sk.ca>, premier <premier@gov.sk.ca>,
bboyd@mla.legassembly.sk.ca, pr@potashcorp.com,
Podwika@potashcorp.com, fosterd@bennettjones.ca,
corporate.relations@potashcorp.com
Cc: dwain@saskndp.ca, maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>,
Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com, jane.mcaloon@bhpbilliton.com,
"jacques.nasser"<jacques.nasser@bhpbilliton.com>, occupyfredericton
<occupyfredericton@gmail.com>, "9.17occupywallstreet"
<9.17occupywallstreet@gmail.com>, occupyottawa
<occupyottawa@gmail.com>

http://www.operationmaple.com/home/173-saskatchewan-ndp-faces-electoral-disaster

http://www.arts.uregina.ca/john-conway

I don't believe John Conway knows as much as he thinks he does so he
deserved to be somewhat more enlightened EH Brad Wall? Rest assured
that I called him and told him as much as he wanted to know while
Lingenfelter's campain manager played as dumb as a post about my
concerns.

However as dumb as Lingenfelter and his cohorts may pretend to be if
the NDP boss in SK truly practiced old style, right wing "take no
prisoners" politicking he who have embarassed the hell out of Brad
Wall last year with the letter from Jac Nasser to mean old me that is
hereto attached.

Anyone with two clues between their ears or even a dumb NDP dude would
know that BHP Billiton's Marius Kloppers visiting Brad Wall during an
election campaign is just no coincidence at all. Something smells
truly rotten indeed. However the only way to resolve my concerns is
byway of litigation CORRECT MR WALL?

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/breakingnews/bhp-billiton-ceo-meets-with-saskatchewan-premier-during-election-campaign-131894618.html

Have your lawyers review the emials below and tell your Attorney
General to find the documents I sent his office byway REGISTERED US
MAIL in 2005 and tell them to give me a call if they have more BALLS
than you EH MR WALL?

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:16:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fw: RE BHP's game I just called Bill Boyd and the NDP In SK
they played dumb as usual
To: bwall@mla.legassembly.sk.ca, dlingenfelter@mla.legassembly.sk.ca,
bboyd@mla.legassembly.sk.ca, pr@potashcorp.com,
Podwika@potashcorp.com, fosterd@bennettjones.ca,
corporate.relations@potashcorp.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com


From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Subject: Yo Shawny Baby interestng trick your pal Carl Urquhart and
his buddies in the RCMP and Fat Fred City's Finest tried to pull on my
son and I last night EH?
To: "MLA"<MLA@carlurquhart.com>, "kelly. lamrock"
<kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca>, "jack. keir"<jack.keir@gnb.ca>,
"jack.macdougall"<jack.macdougall@greenparty.ca>, "Ed. Doherty"
<Ed.Doherty@gnb.ca>, "wally.stiles@gnb.ca"<wally.stiles@gnb.ca>,
"oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "danfour"
<danfour@myginch.com>, "Richard Harris"
<injusticecoalition@hotmail.com>, "tracy"<tracy@jatam.org>, "nb.
premier"<nb.premier@gmail.com>, "nbpolitico"<nbpolitico@gmail.com>,
"terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>
Cc: "Wayne.Lang"<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "rob.lafrance"
<rob.lafrance@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "shawn. graham"<shawn.graham@gnb.ca>,
"John. Foran"<John.Foran@gnb.ca>, "john"
<john@johncampbellsaintjohnharbour.ca>, "krisaustin"
<krisaustin@panb.org>, "robin reid"<zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, "tony"
<tony@peoplestandup.ca>, fortsaskatchewan.vegreville@assembly.ab.ca,
"Barry.MacKnight"<Barry.MacKnight@fredericton.ca>, "Barry Winters"
<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 6:25 PM

How dumb was that? I must ask did he expect the cops to arrest both of
us and then call us both crazy? Hell Urquhart even bragged in front of
the cops that he did the same shit on July 4th, 2008 That malicious
nonsense didn't work out too well for the long gone lawyer and former
Minister of Health Mikey Murphy partcularly after the nasty French
bastard Chucky Lebanc and hs pals violated my privacy and blogged
about N'esy Pas? I told the cops last nght to simply Google my name and
the dumb bastards laughed.

FYI type in Davd Amos to see that I wa not jokng with the smiling dumb
bastards last nght Google will offer Chucky Leblanc's bullshit about
mean old me at the top of the hit list DUHHH?

Davd Amos plus Google equals

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html

Do tell does Carl Baby really think I won't sue his nasty arse
someday? Ya think the corrupt ex cop of Fat Fred City's Finest would
at least wait until he and his cohorts got sworn in to take over your
jobs EH?

--- On Mon, 9/13/10, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:


From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Subject: How is your conscience and sense of ethical conduct doing now
ladies?
To: Jane.McAloon@bhpbilliton.com, Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com
Cc: "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"<william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"Dean.Buzza"<Dean.Buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:57 PM


Jane McAloon (Group Company Secretary) BEc (Hons), LLB, GDipGov, FCIS
Term of office: Jane McAloon was appointed Group Company Secretary in
July 2007 and joined the BHP Billiton Group in September 2006 as
Company Secretary for BHP Billiton Limited.
Skills and experience: Prior to joining BHP Billiton, Jane McAloon
held the position of Company Secretary and Group Manager External and
Regulatory Services in the Australian Gas Light Company. She
previously held various State and Commonwealth government positions,
including Director General of the NSW Ministry of Energy and Utilities
and Deputy Director General for the NSW Cabinet Office, as well as
working in private legal practice. She is a Fellow of the Institute of
Chartered Secretaries.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Collins, Susan J (COSEC)"<Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:23:12 +1000
Subject: Email to BHP Billiton Chairman's
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com


Please find attached a letter from Mr Jac Nasser, Chairman of BHP
Billiton

Susan Collins
Company Secretariat
BHP Billiton | 180 Lonsdale St | Melbourne Vic 3000 |Australia
T: +61 3 9609 2654 | M: +61 427 713 994 | F: +61 3 9609 3290
E: susan.j.collins@bhpbilliton.com <mailto:jane.mcaloon@bhpbilliton.com>

<<Amos D 2010 09 14.pdf>>


-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:36 AM
To: pr@potashcorp.com; Podwika@potashcorp.com;
fosterd@bennettjones.ca; corporate.relations@potashcorp.com;
lgold.blcanada@b-l.com; shawn. graham; David.ALWARD@gnb.ca;
krisaustin; jacques_poitras@cbc.ca; cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca;
tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com; nmiller@corridor.ca;
bruce.northrup@gnb.ca; atlbf@nb.aibn.com; akapoor@globeandmail.com;
nmacadam@globeandmail.com; vepp@globeandmail.com;
potash@mackenziepartners.com; contactus@kingsdaleshareholder.com;
rick.hancox; Bernard.LeBlanc; Liebenberg, Andre;
mclellana@bennettjones.com; MooreR; danfour; oldmaison@yahoo.com;
Harris, Brendan; Dean.Buzza; Gilles. Blinn
Cc: wcoady; michel.desneiges@sade-els.org; producers@stu.ca;
WaterWarCrimes; Penny Bright; tony; Nasser, Jacques
Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
you people buy much stock in their stock eh?

With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
issues again about theexploitation of our natural resources to a
bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
now)

Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos


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confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use
by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or
the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended
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http://www.bennettjones.com/people_item.aspx?person=821

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/

http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf

http://www.potashcorp.com/media/POT_2010_Letter_from_BHP_Billiton's_Chairman.pdf

http://www.bhpbilliton.com/bb/aboutUs/companyOverview/ourBoard.jsp

http://www.potashcorp.com/about/management_board/senior_management/podwika/

http://www.corridor.ca/media/2010-press-releases/20100510.html

http://www.bennettjones.com/people_item.aspx?person=712&name=foster&pg=&office=

http://www.robmooremp.com/081908.htm

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/05/07/nb-penobsquis-water-lawyer-1056.html?ref=rss

http://www.newbrunswickbeacon.ca/2010/03/risk-and-reward-when-rural-life-meets-economic-development/5666

http://www.vancouverislandwaterwatchcoalition.ca/go456a/FRACKING

http://www.elements.nb.ca/theme/ecojustice/JeanPaul/JeanPaul.htm

http://www.nbmediacoop.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1133:penobsquis-residents-seek-compensation-for-damages&catid=82:environment&Itemid=197



From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Subject: Yo Mr Harper What part of this email did the many Green
Meanies fail to understand last year?
To: "pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>, "davidc.coon"<davidc.coon@gmail.com>,
leader@greenparty.ca, "campaign"<campaign@briantopp.ca>,
"Nycole.Turmel"<Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca>, "bob.rae"
<bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>, "briangallant10"
<briangallant10@gmail.com>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "gregory.graham"
<gregory.graham@tidescanada.org>, "ross"<ross@tidescanada.org>,
"ross.mcmillan"<ross.mcmillan@tidescanada.org>,
info@blackriver.ns.ca, "maritime_malaise"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>,
darce@nsrighttoknow.ca, timb@thecoast.ca, "counsel"
<counsel@barackobama.com>, "newt"<newt@newt.org>, "info"
<info@mittromney.com>
Cc: jb@sierraclub.ca, "premier@gov.ns.ca"<premier@gov.ns.ca>,
"premier.ministre"<premier.ministre@cex.gouv.qc.ca>,
"OfficeofthePremier, Office PREM:EX"<premier@gov.bc.ca>, "premier"
<premier@gnb.ca>
Date: Friday, January 27, 2012, 8:46 AM


You and lawyers such as Joey Oliver, Gary Lunn and Dizzy Lizzy May are
well aware of why I have "Issues" with the Greasy Gassy Oily Guys, the
National Energy Board and all the Green Meanies EH?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:26:17 -0300
Subject: I just called
To: timb@thecoast.ca
Cc: info@greenbelt.ca, taxworthy@gordonfn.org, tim@gordonfn.org,
tbrodhead@mcconnellfoundation.ca

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lisa Gue <lgue@davidsuzuki.org>
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:37:02 -0400
Subject: RE: i just called some of you again. Instead of calling me
back Suzuki's people just surf the net and play dumb Correct?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Cc: Jean-Patrick Toussaint <jptoussaint@davidsuzuki.org>, Sutton Eaves
<seaves@davidsuzuki.org>, Ian Bruce <ibruce@davidsuzuki.org>

Mr. Amos,

When you called my cell phone earlier, as I was on my way into a
meeting, you offered to send me an e-mail outline the information you
are looking for from the David Suzuki Foundation. Is this it??

Lisa Gue

From: Sutton Eaves <seaves@davidsuzuki.org>
Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: The greedy pople on the Fake Left
say nasty things about mean old me as well EH Stevey Boy Harper?
To: "David Amos"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 2:55 PM


Thanks for your message. I am out of the office until Tuesday, April 19.

If this is a media request, please contact Ian Hanington at
ihanington@davidsuzuki.org, or Leanne Clare at lclare@davidsuzuki.org.

Otherwise, I'll return your message when I return.

Have a great day!


From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Subject: The greedy pople on the Fake Left say nasty things about mean
old me as well EH Stevey Boy Harper?
To: action@ecologyaction.ca, gretchenf@sierraclub.ca, tracy@jatam.org,
dgiroux@tlb.sympatico.ca, mjgorman@ns.sympatico.ca,
nmiller@corridor.ca, coalitionstlaurent@me.com,
jeanpatrick.toussaint@adelaide.edu.au, info@climateprojectcanada.org,
lgue@davidsuzuki.org, ibruce@davidsuzuki.org, seaves@davidsuzuki.org,
"pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>, "IgnatM"<IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>, "danfour"
<danfour@myginch.com>, "bruce.northrup@gnb.ca"
<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, "charlieparkermla"
<charlieparkermla@ns.aliantzinc.ca>, "ducepg"<ducepg@parl.gc.ca>,
"LaytoJ"<LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>, leader@greenparty.ca
Cc: "pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>, ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca
Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 2:54 PM


From: John Bennett <jb@sierraclub.ca>
Subject: Re: i just called some of you again. Instead of calling me
back Suzuki's people just surf the net and play dumb Correct?
To: "Paula Boutis"<pboutis@ilercampbell.com>,
"JeanPaulBourque@gmail.com"<JeanPaulBourque@gmail.com>, "Wayne
Gallant"<Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "webo@xplornet.com"
<webo@xplornet.com>, "Gretchen Fitzgerald"<gretchenf@sierraclub.ca>,
"maritime_malaise"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Cc: "pfalvo@yellowknife.ca"<pfalvo@yellowknife.ca>
Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 2:26 PM


He is known to Gretchen as not quiet rational.

John Bennett Executive Director Sierra Club Canada 613 291 6888

-----Original Message-----
From: "Paula Boutis"<pboutis@ilercampbell.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:18:46
To: JeanPaulBourque@gmail.com<JeanPaulBourque@gmail.com>; Wayne
Gallant<Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>;
webo@xplornet.com<webo@xplornet.com>;
jb@sierraclub.ca<jb@sierraclub.ca>;
gretchenf@sierraclub.ca<gretchenf@sierraclub.ca>;
maritime_malaise<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Cc: pfalvo@yellowknife.ca<pfalvo@yellowknife.ca>
Subject: RE: i just called some of you again. Instead of calling me back
Suzuki's people just surf the net and play dumb Correct?

I am not responding to Dave Amos' emails, but I believe I have heard
he has some "issues". I have no sense of what his involvement is with
the organization or why he is threatening law suits (my receptionist
just intercepted a call and he told her he didn't want to leave a
message and to just tell her that he would "see me in court").

Does anyone have any idea what to do about this guy? Should we just
ignore him?

Paula

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0300
Subject: i just called some of you again. Instead of calling me back
Suzuki's people just surf the net and play dumb Correct?
To: action@ecologyaction.ca, gretchenf@sierraclub.ca, tracy@jatam.org,
dgiroux@tlb.sympatico.ca, mjgorman@ns.sympatico.ca,
nmiller@corridor.ca, coalitionstlaurent@me.com,
jeanpatrick.toussaint@adelaide.edu.au, info@climateprojectcanada.org,
lgue@davidsuzuki.org, ibruce@davidsuzuki.org, seaves@davidsuzuki.org,
pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, IgnatM <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>,
"oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, danfour
<danfour@myginch.com>, "bruce.northrup@gnb.ca"
<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, charlieparkermla
<charlieparkermla@ns.aliantzinc.ca>, ducepg <ducepg@parl.gc.ca>,
LaytoJ <LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>, leader@greenparty.ca

http://www.coalitionsaintlaurent.ca/en/contact

Jean-Patrick Toussaint
Spokesperson (english), St-Lawrence Coalition
(David Suzuki Foundation)
514-316-4646

http://www.davidsuzuki.org/fr/

http://www.climateprojectcanada.org/.profile/jtoussaint3

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/directory/jeanpatrick.toussaint

http://www.climateprojectcanada.org/about/board

Did that lots of people have an opinion of bugets not just David
Suzuki and the greasy gassy oily guys such as Emera, Corridor
Resources and irving Oil

http://www.davidsuzuki.org/media/

Just Dave
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 16:04:12 -0300
Subject: FYI here is a litte Deju Vu from Saint John Harbour for Dr Ed
to review EH Shawny Baby?
To: john <john@johncampbellsaintjohnharbour.ca>,
"carlkillen@gmail.com"<carlkillen@gmail.com>, "Ed. Doherty"
<Ed.Doherty@gnb.ca>, sharon_christian@transcanada.com, Aaron Kennedy
<sjmpabk@nb.sympatico.ca>, alison.gayton@unb.ca,
Allison_denning@hc-sc.gc.ca, amcallis@nrcan.gc.ca,
mcnan@reg2.health.nb.ca, info@irishhouseoftara.com,
ohallowe@gov.ns.ca, caring@rogers.com, cstpierre@nbpower.com, "Charles
L. Debly"<charlesdebly56@yahoo.com>, dannyrobichaud@nb.aibn.com,
deg@nb.aibn.com, darrell@unbi.org, dawnc@nbnet.nb.ca,
ddavies@mccarthy.ca, "Dorothy C. Dawson"<lawbrodc@hotmail.com>,
erik.denis@gnb.ca, FollowFran@yahoo.ca, fjames@gmail.com,
wattadil@nbnet.nb.ca, gnemecr@repsolypf.com, macgriff@nbnet.nb.ca,
saurtwo@nb.sympatico.ca, ileadley@duke-energy.com,
horse97@nb.sympatico.ca, Jake.Harms@justice.gc.ca, jsmellie@osler.com,
pearcer@nbnet.nb.ca, joel_forrest@transcanada.com,
pappas.john@jdirving.com, smithl@bennettjones.ca,
len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com, lratelle@gazmetro.com,
Brunswick.Pipeline@ec.gc.ca, mbrown@heritagegas.com,
mosher.mark@jdirving.com, matthew_wharton@transcanada.com,
burgess@nbnet.nb.ca, christiemike@rogers.com,
Muratte.Graves@irvingoil.com, murray99@nbnet.nb.ca,
gretenern@bennettjones.ca, nmiller@corridor.ns.ca,
longsure@nbnet.nb.ca, peggyjames@rogers.com, Paul.Vanderlaan@gnb.ca,
zedpl@parl.gc.ca, pthompson@blgcanada.com, Pcblaney@rogers.com,
rjpelletier@duke-energy.com, rene.gallant@nspower.ca,
richard.neufeld@fmc-law.com, Rinde.Powell@encana.com,
fairbairn@capp.ca, Robert.Gall@shell.com, robmoirndp@gmail.com,
ronald.moore@esso.ca, ron@unitedway.aibn.nb.com,
shelley.black@enbridge.com, mcgratst@gov.ns.ca,
sweilcox@nb.sympatico.ca, curriet@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca,
ted_semadeni@anadarko.com, tdalgleish@mccarthy.ca,
edterry@nbnet.nb.ca, tinkpen@gmail.com, William.Gould@gnb.ca
Cc: "kelly. lamrock"<kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca>, "shawn. graham"
<shawn.graham@gnb.ca>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
danfour <danfour@myginch.com>, robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>,
"tomp. young"<tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com>, tony
<tony@peoplestandup.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:59:59 -0300
Subject: I called you all and tried to explain how I can help with
your concerns I repeat just say my name
To: action@ecologyaction.ca, gretchenf@sierraclub.ca, tracy
<tracy@jatam.org>, dgiroux@tlb.sympatico.ca, mjgorman@ns.sympatico.ca
Cc: nmiller <nmiller@corridor.ca>, "wally.stiles@gnb.ca"
<wally.stiles@gnb.ca>

If nothing else listen to this and get pissed off lIke mean old me. At
least that emotion is honest.

http://www.archive.org/details/Corridor1

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos



http://www.sierraclub.ca/en/in-the-news

http://atlantic.sierraclub.ca/en/media/release/coalition-calls-leaders-act-immediately-stop-oil-and-gas-exploration-gulf-st-lawrence

COALITION CALLS ON LEADERS TO ACT IMMEDIATELY TO STOP OIL AND GAS
EXPLORATION IN GULF OF ST. LAWRENCE
For Immediate Release - October 4, 2010
PICTOU, NS - Today's decision by the Canada Newfoundland and Labrador
Offshore Petroleum Board (CNLOPB) to allow seismic blasting in the
Gulf of St. Lawrence was met with shock and concern by a coalition
calling for a moratorium on oil and gas development in the Gulf of St.
Lawrence. The coalition - made of aboriginal, fishing, and
environmental organizations - is calling on municipal, provincial,
federal, and aboriginal leaders to act swiftly to halt the testing.

"With this decision, the CNLOPB has approved an activity that could
damage this entire precious ecosystem," according to Mary Gorman of
the Save Our Seas and Shores, "We want this decision reversed
immediately, and action taken to allow jurisdictions bordering on the
Gulf to have a say in its future."

"Seismic testing could start in the next 48 hours, potentially
damaging marine mammals like blue whales, and disrupting fish and
fisheries. This approval has given oil and gas as a toehold in the
Gulf that could lead to full scale drilling," according to Danielle
Giroux of the. "Fishermen I work for need more say over protecting the
Gulf. We want the CNLOPB's decision reversed immediately."

"An oil spill in the Gulf of St. Lawrence would impact fish stocks and
coastal communities in Quebec, PEI, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and
Newfoundland. Moreover, the national importance of this ecosystem must
be upheld." says Gretchen Fitzgerald, of the Sierra Club Canada. "
Federal laws to protect endangered species and fish habitat recognize
the importance of protecting our shared biodiversity and resources.
This decision is not reflecting this shared responsibility or concerns
expressed by groups around the Gulf."

-30-



For more information, please contact:

Mary Gorman, Save our Seas and Shores, 902-926-2128/mjgorman@ns.sympatico.ca

Danielle Giroux (Francais), Attention Fragile (Magdalen Islands)
418-969-9440/dgiroux@tlb.sympatico.ca

Gretchen Fitzgerald, Director, Sierra Club Atlantic, 902-444-3113/
gretchenf@sierraclub.ca

Mark Butler, Policy Director, Ecology Action Centre,
902-429-5287/action@ecologyaction.ca

From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Subject: Say Hoka Hey to the very sneaky lawyer Dizzy Lizzy May for me will
ya?
To: JeanPaulBourque@gmail.com, "Wayne.Gallant"
<Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, webo@xplornet.com,
board@sierraclub.ca, jb@sierraclub.ca, gretchenf@sierraclub.ca,
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Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 2:28 PM


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On 5/19/14, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
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> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/03/david-coon-of-green-meanies-roberta.html
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> http://upriverenvironmentwatch.com/2014/03/12/how-do-we-make-nbs-environmental-impact-assessment-process-effective/
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> March 5, 2014
>
> Marysville Place, P O Box 6000
>  Fredericton, NB E3B 5H1
>  danny.soucy@gnb.ca
>
> Dear Hon. Danny Soucy, Minister of Environment and Local Government:
>
> I am writing to request a Comprehensive Environmental Impact Review on
> both current phases of Corridor Resources’ McCully Field shale gas
> industrial development proposals for Penobsquis NB. Initial
> assessments commissioned by Corridor (the proponent) from AMEC (its
> own consultant) have been submitted to your Ministry staff:
>
> • McCully Phased Environment Impact Assessment Phases I and II:
> Natural Gas Exploration and Development at Well Pad F-67 Submitted to:
> Corridor Resources Inc., Halifax Nova Scotia Submitted by: AMEC
> Environment & Infrastructure, A Division of AMEC Americas Ltd.,
> Fredericton, New Brunswick, October 2013, TE131040
>
> • McCully Phased Environment Impact Assessment Phase III: Natural Gas
> Exploration and Development in the McCully Field Submitted to:
> Corridor Resources Inc., Halifax Nova Scotia Submitted by: AMEC
> Environment & Infrastructure, A Division of AMEC Americas Ltd.,
> Fredericton, New Brunswick, February 2014, TE131040
>
> I am very concerned about the incomplete and misleading assessments
> prepared AMEC. In my following comments, I address both proposals
> together. They really are conjoined, so must be considered together,
> and I can see on the Government of New Brunswick (GNB) website that,
> as of today’s date, the “Determination Review is in progress” for both
> proposals. (1)
>
> 1   Fracking with Propane
>
> The industry, their investors, and their advocates in the GNB seem
> willing to take risks using a technology that has not been subjected
> to any scientific analysis on its safety record or environmental
> impact. I am not an engineer, however I am trained and certified as a
> Propane Pump Attendant. Therefore, I have some idea of propane’s
> safety risks. It is HIGHLY flammable and even small 20 lb tanks must
> be very carefully transported. The LPG (Liquid Propane Gas) beginning
> to be used in shale gas fracking is perhaps even more of a fire
> hazard: it includes butane and other flammable additives.
>
> One reason GNB seems willing to do this on the quietly, without
> discussion is that both the GNB and the shale gas and oil industry can
> access the current research. They know that most environmental issues
> raised over the past few years are being proven in credible research.
> Unconventional hydraulic refracturing (obtaining methane from the deep
> shale layers of the planet with gargantuan quantities of deeply
> pressurized water laced with chemicals) is very risky because it all
> too often emits poisonous matter into adjacent water, air, and land.
> (2)
>
> Another BIG problem with hydraulic fracking is the waste of water
> (millions of litres per frack), which then becomes “waste water.” This
> waste water is contaminated by the stuff added to facilitate the
> “frack,” and further contaminated by other ingredients, often
> radioactive, which occurs naturally in the deep shale and comes up to
> the surface with the frack water “blow-back.” In many jurisdictions
> there are HUGE problems with managing storage and treatment for
> disposal of this blow-back water, and in New Brunswick there is way to
> deal with it.
>
> The only reason anyone would even think of using LPG for fracking
> shale gas wells (i.e. to get methane out of the earth’s deep shale
> layers) is because, unlike the water method, the public does not have
> the information about the risks. The people who promote fracking with
> LPG are those involved in making money from that activity, or who want
> to be. There are no empirical studies, only corporate promotion of its
> virtues – which can always be followed by lawyering up and the silence
> that protects corporate privilege when something goes wrong. Using
> common sense to think about (LPG) as a fracking agent, a number of
> serious concerns arise: (3)
>
> • Many truckloads of liquid propane are needed for each frack. Use of
> LPG for fracking means HUGE quantities of a truly hazardous substance
> is being hauled, loaded and unloaded, to and from well sites, across
> New Brunswick roads, risking accidents in residential, agricultural,
> tourism, outdoor recreation, and other land use region. Propane is
> also stored on site for periods during the active frack process, and
> the proponent’s site is very close to local residences and operations.
>
> • LPG, like the propane we know in our barbecues, is highly
> combustible and presents dangers to on site workers as well as those
> who live in and around the Penobsquis area. GasFrac is the Canadian
> company that has pioneered this technology. They are partnered with
> Chevron and are the propane fracking contractor Corridor intends to
> use. At least two significant accidents have occurred at GasFrac
> sites. (4) Propane was also a major factor in the huge fire at a
> Chevron site in mid-February in southwestern Pennsylvania (5, 6)
>
> • The LPG converts to gas during the fracking process. In its gaseous
> state, propane is heavier than air. As a surface fugitive gas, it will
> pool in low spots on the industrial site, at which point the fugitive
> methane becomes a really significant explosion hazard. Taking a guess,
> this may have contributed to the aforementioned fire in Pennsylvania.
> • Fracking by LPG still requires unacceptable quantifies of hazardous
> chemicals. The proponent says the projects will only use three
> additives but these additives have several components, as discussed
> further below. As with hydraulic fracking, when these chemicals are on
> site, being transferred to and fro and present in blow-back gas or
> water, accidents, spills, and fugitive gasses enable migration of
> these chemicals into the surrounding air as well as the soil and
> groundwater.
>
> • Recovery of the propane, after it returns to the surface as a gas,
> requires heavy-duty industrial compression on the site to convert the
> gas back into LPG form. This is an hazardous operation that will
> contribute to air pollution either on the site or wherever this
> recovery facility is located.
>
> • LPG is expensive: the price of propane is climbing daily and the
> technology is so “cutting edge” that third party contractors are hired
> to do propane fracking while the industry’s own in-house experts and
> equipment (designed for water-based fracking) stand idle. Because of
> the costs, it is entirely possible these wells are initially being
> fracked with propane to make them more acceptable to an unwitting
> public, and after the proposed development is in place the same wells
> could be fracked with the old pressurized water method. This brings on
> all the issues of unconventional fracking with water as the fluid.
>
> The above points constitute my first reason for calling on your
> government to go beyond the hollow EIA’s submitted by the proponent in
> these applications. You must forthwith undertake a transparent, open,
> full and comprehensive environmental impact study on these new
> development proposals.
>
> 2  Flood Plain, Watercourse, Wetlands
>
> A basic aerial map of the region shows the Penobsquis area is dotted
> with ponds and other small water bodies and streams. The Kennebacasis
> River headwaters are in the foothills of Albert County, near the
> community of Goshen. The major tributary for this river flows through
> Penobsquis, with all tributaries merging a few kilometres south. On
> pages 5 and 16 of the February submission, Corridor admits:
>
> • there is only about 20′ or 7m. between this tributary and Well Pads
> 67 and/or 57;
>
> • the sites covered by these three phases of development are all in a
> floodplain.
>
> On December 1, 2011, internationally respected Dr. Anthony Ingraffea
> (PhD, Civil Engineering) said point blank to an audience in Hampton,
> NB, “I am an engineer and it is just plain foolish to build gas wells
> over floodplains.” (7, 8) Over-flooding water from storage pits, well
> heads and the surrounding industrial area would carry with it toxic
> chemicals, contaminated blow-back, and other industrial waste
> contamination to adjacent properties and throughout nearby
> watercourses. This issue is even more worrisome in view of the
> increasingly severe and often freakish weather associated with climate
> change. Throughout New Brunswick, there is also reason to be concerned
> that there could be radon or other radioactive waste in the post-frack
> gas, dust, and fluids from the site.
>
> Surely you do not intend to allow the proponent to expand the existing
> non-conforming development when it means encroaching further into
> wetlands? Seven years ago (2007), GNB was extremely concerned about
> development on this environmentally sensitive site. A stop work order
> was issued on Corridor’s gas plant in the McCully Field in Penobsquis
> precisely because of its proximity to recognized wetlands in this
> flood plain. In order to proceed with that 2007 stage and scope of its
> shale gas industrial activities, Corridor was required to compensate
> this loss to the public. (9) Only a transparent, open, full and
> comprehensive environmental impact study will provide full opportunity
> for consideration of these issues.
>
> 3    Subsidence, Seismicity, Fault Lines
>
> Subsidence has already occurred in the Penobsquis area and it is
> recognized as an active subsidence area. On December 1, 2011, again in
> Hampton, Dr. Anthony Ingraffea said, “It is asking for trouble to
> build wells and pipelines in areas where there has been subsidence,
> and where subsidence is still active. You have seen how important
> casing and cementing is to wellbore integrity… and if you’re moving
> rock mass centimetres, or metres” around these casings “you can’t
> expect that protection system to last.” Given the proponent’s plans to
> experiment with the use of LPG (propane) as the frac fluid, well bore
> integrity is especially essential to provide some hope for workplace
> and rural neighbourhood safety.
>
> This subsidence became an issue for area residents with the
> development of the PotashCorp mine and the initial development of the
> McCully Field by the proponent. These two industries and their
> activities are inextricably linked in the corporate world and on the
> ground in the Penobsquis area (or should I say, below the ground). The
> dramatic amount of subsidence in the past decade appears to be due to
> three factors: the deep fault lines shown on Lawrence Wuest’s map in
> Appendix A (having some trouble uploading, please email
> upriverwatch@gmail.com to see this), the potash mine hollowing out the
> underground and mine infrastructure impacts, and seismicity associated
> with the shale gas fracking process. However, the Concerned Citizens
> of Penobsquis only had the resources to challenge one of the
> industries. At a lengthy public hearing in 2013, PotashCorp agreed
> that the subsidence was at least partially due to its mine, although
> the company acknowledged no responsibility for damage to local
> properties. Corridor Resources was not a party to this hearing.
>
> August 2012 research from the BC Oil and Gas Commission shows there is
> a clear link between fracking and seismic activity along fault
> lines.(10) With these proposals, the proponent is signalling intent to
> ramp up seismicity in the region with new fracks and increasing
> development that aims towards commercial levels of production. We know
> that deep shale gas extraction needs ever more frequent fracks to keep
> producing.
>
> Steps must be developed and implemented to avoid any further
> subsidence in this area. Now is the time to stop, take a breath, and
> at a minimum establish a baseline as well as a monitoring program that
> will protect owners of adjacent properties from continuing to be
> collateral damage in this resource rush. This baseline and monitoring
> system would enable compensation if their worst fears are realized.
> This matter can only be fully investigated and addressed through a
> transparent, open, full and comprehensive environmental impact study
> in which the public is given any support needed to participate. Let’s
> get the full story out there and deal with the issues. To fail to do
> so would be foolhardy for a government that wishes to avoid litigation
> for damages down the road.
>
> 4   Chemicals Used
>
> On page 14 (2.2.4.1) of the proponent’s October 2013 document, it is
> stated that only three chemical additives will be used in the
> LBG-based fracturing fluid: a gellant, an activator, and a breaker,
> and that these will be used in “small dosages” of 4 to 10 litres per
> 1000 litres. 4 to 10 litres per 1000 litres is from four parts per
> thousand to one part per hundred. Many chemicals can cause serious
> harm in only a few parts per million and some in as little as a few
> parts per billion, so the proponent’s claims that these do not pose a
> threat to human and/or environmental health need to be much further
> investigated.
>
> In Appendix A of the same proposal document, more than a dozen
> chemicals and compounds are identified as part of the three additives
> identified as fracking co-agents: Gellant GELLP-10; Activator
> XL-46D/XL-105; and Breaker BRKLP-10. Further, on page 9 of the same
> (October) proposal document, there is mention of something called
> “Synthetic Oil Based Drilling Fluid” that is not described in any more
> detail. Elsewhere in these proposals it is mentioned that propane is
> only 95% of LPG and other substances are added to it. This information
> provided in these proposals is totally inadequate for residents or
> those who work and recreate in the area, and by proximity may become
> contaminated via any manner (contact, inhale, ingest).
>
> The population of this region, and of New Brunswick in general, has
> the right to know what industrial chemicals, gasses and fluids the
> company plans to use BEFORE it is put into our land, air, water, and
> bodies. The precise known and suspected effects of each additive and
> compound should be public knowledge prior to approval, as well as the
> concentration of each chemical in parts per million or parts per
> billion in the fracking cocktail. These comments apply to all wells to
> be fractured as per any fracking operations covered in all current and
> future phases of the proponent’s development at this site. Further,
> use of any chemicals not on the disclosed list should not be permitted
> until the same steps are taken. Information like this should be part
> of the environmental review process and its absence in the AMEC
> documents is one more reason why a transparent, open, full and
> comprehensive environmental impact study is needed for these
> proposals.
>
> 5   Health Impacts
>
> Many of the above referenced and other potential chemicals used to
> facilitate the fracking process are hazardous to human health, even in
> the smallest quantities. Multiply this threat by the acknowledged fact
> that this development is taking place on a flood plain and the wild
> weather accompanying increasing climate change is bringing unexpected
> floods to all sorts of streams and low lying areas. Multiply again by
> the fact that NB regulators and the proponent have no experience with
> the use of LPG (itself a hazard) as a fracking fluid. Add on the risks
> of subsidence. Already the potential for psychological, financial,
> social, health, and emotional misery (even devastation) is HUGE! The
> homes, farms, woods, camp, watercourses, and wildlife (etc.) were
> there before these industries moved in. Sadly, this list is
> incomplete. There are many more risks and hazards.
>
> New Brunswick’s Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Eilish Cleary is
> the ultimate GNB expert on public health and human environmental
> issues related to this form of development. In October 2012, Dr.
> Cleary reported on public health issues related to shale gas
> industrial development in our province. (11) Her research report Chief
> Medical Officer of Health’s Recommendations Concerning Shale Gas
> Development in New Brunswick won national and international accolades,
> including the prestigious Environmental Health Review Award for 2013
> from the Canadian Institute of Public Health Inspectors for its
> comprehensive “state-of-the-science” overview/examination of public
> health issues related to the shale gas industrial development. This
> award is presented annually to an individual, organization, or agency
> who has made an outstanding contribution to the field of environmental
> health and/or the betterment of public health during the previous
> year. In a clear snub of Dr. Cleary’s peer-acclaimed scientific
> research and advocacy, GNB sent no representative to this award
> ceremony.
>
> However, Dr, Cleary perseveres. She ignored the snub and, in fact, she
> ignores being ignored. Still driving home her message of “do no harm”
> through prevention and protection, on February 18, 2014 (two weeks
> ago), Dr. Cleary said, “the Alward government needs to take ‘targeted
> and strategic actions’ to prevent and mitigate any negative health
> impacts associated with the development of the shale gas industry.”
> She recommended requiring a health impact assessment and monitoring
> the health of the population on an ongoing basis to detect adverse
> impacts, including from:
>
> • chemicals used in the fracking process; air quality; noise; and
> vibration (12)
>
> • the impact of this development vis-a-vis First Nations Peoples,
> climate change considerations, social and psychosocial impacts of the
> industry, and the overwhelming evidence that industrial mining of deep
> shale layers causes significant and hazardous air pollution. (13)
>
> In the CBC Information Morning interview cited above, Dr. Cleary
> further commented, “I think the shale gas conversation has opened up a
> whole range of big-picture policy questions that our department needs
> to be involved in,” and this means looking at the full picture of
> risks, costs and benefits of this industrial development here in New
> Brunswick. Dr. Cleary continued, “In health, we have already come
> forward with recommendations and now what we have to do is focus on
> translating those recommendations into operational plans, for example
> air quality” monitoring, and “the same applies for doing health impact
> and environmental impact studies.” To date, your government seems to
> be totally ignoring Dr. Cleary’s words of wisdom. It is not
> inconceivable that this could expose GNB to the risk of a class action
> law suit if some of the troubles she identifies occur. To protect all
> New Brunswickers, your government must not fail to heed her warnings
> and advice.
>
> A week ago, the Conservation Council of New Brunswick (CCNB) called on
> the Government of New Brunswick to provide Dr. Cleary with a clear
> mandate and adequate resources to do her job of protecting public
> health. (14) This mandate would start with an invitation from the
> Department of the Environment and Local Government to the Office of
> the Medical Officer of Health to become a sitting member of its
> standard Technical Review Committee for Environmental Impact (EI)
> reviews on shale gas development proposals.
>
> New Brunswick would truly have a world-class regulatory system if the
> CMOH’s staff is fully integrated into all application and approval
> processes. This means spending some of the revenue that New Brunswick
> projects from this industry on provisioning her department with
> resources to:
>
> • participate fully in all EIA processes;
>
> • undertake baseline Health Impact studies for those regions with
> approved projects;
>
> • monitor all shale gas development re: identified public and
> environmental health considerations; and,
>
> • establish professional, 24/7/365 inspection capacity to protect
> residents and workers.
>
> 6    GNB is Dropping the Ball on Environmental Impact Assessment
>
> GNB has been arguing for two years that it can protect the health and
> natural environment of New Brunswickers with its: “world-class”
> regulatory framework, capable enforcement and inspection civil service
> workforce, and a bona fide environmental impact review process. To
> date, these seem to be glamourous words with no substance. I see no
> evidence of this commitment being honoured.
>
> In my opinion both of the subject proposals are misnamed; they are not
> true “Environmental Impact Assessments.” To try to understand why they
> are named this, and what GNB actually thinks an Environmental Impact
> Assessment is, on February 26, 2014 I had a 40-minute telephone
> conversation with David Maguire, Manager of the Environmental
> Assessment Section, in the Sustainable Development and Impact
> Evaluation Branch of the Department of Environment and Local
> Government. (15)
>
>  In Mr. Maguire’s view, the work outlined in the subject proposals is
> preliminary, “small,” and can be approved without much intervention in
> order to get things moving. He said that the “nature of this
> particular industry is that there is continued collection of data as
> the projects get underway” which could also be expressed as: they
> don’t have much of an idea what they will encounter once they get
> started. He said that “this government has clearly stated that it
> plans to encourage companies to proceed with shale gas development.”
> If a company wants to “do this or that or frack here or there,” GNB
> will see this as in compliance with its policy. “Only when the company
> says, we want to go into commercial production” will the Minister get
> involved to say yea, nay, or approve with conditions to the proposal.
> In view of Mr. Maguire’s comments, I became even more concerned about
> the vacuous and superficial nature of the proponent’s purported EIA
> studies.
>
> The phasing of the proposals seems designed to avoid restrictions
> found in the most current GNB rules and policies. Under Section 9.8 in
> GNB’s Rules for Industry (see Appendix B), on Protecting Flood Prone
> Areas, Wetlands and Watercourses, much of the development proposed in
> these submissions is not allowed. (16) The proponent seems to argue
> that all the work currently proposed is simply a sprucing up of
> existing infrastructure so approvals could follow without
> complications from Sec. 9.8, e.g. the new proposals will be
> “grandfathered in.” As I see it, the vast majority of the proposed
> work is new construction or using new techniques, with new challenges
> and potentials. It needs to be carefully examined and considered
> before approvals are granted. We are not talking about building a new
> barn or a swimming pool. This is serious stuff.
>
> If the proponent obtains these and upcoming small-scale, incremental,
> project approvals without a full and thorough review of the
> environmental risks and impacts, the precedent is set for approval of
> all subsequent small, incremental “phases” of development on this site
> without serious study. This system of “grandfathering in” will
> continue – if what Mr. Maguire said is correct – up to the point where
> the proponent is ready to operationalize full scale commercial
> production. At this future point, the proponent could reasonably argue
> everything is already in place, so all remaining plans do not require
> any serious, transparent, comprehensive EIA process.
>
> It appears GNB’s attitude could be summarized as damn the torpedoes,
> full speed ahead – because GNB fully supports the proponent to move
> towards much larger, commercial production. Sketchy oversight based on
> a simulated or sham EIA process is fine because GNB does not want to
> put barriers in the way of industry. Let them do what they want and
> hope they don’t make too much of a mess, despite the legitimate
> concerns that are already very apparent. This cheer-leading attitude,
> while at the same time undertaking no meaningful human health or
> environmental protection or prevention planning, did not serve the
> people of Penobsquis well in the previous round of shale gas
> industrial development. There is little likelihood it will serve the
> people as the industry ramps up.
>
> Let’s shift gears for one moment, to get another view on all this.
>
> Don Bowser is the President of IMPACT, an international
> non-governmental organization headquartered in Halifax that works “to
> establish good governance and curb corruption around the globe. IMPACT
> provides targeted assistance to governmental, non-governmental and
> international organizations seeking to enhance systems of oversight,
> manage integrity, and increase transparency and accountability.” (17)
> Mr. Bowser is a New Brunswicker born and bred, with ancestors in this
> region going back to 1772. He is also an international expert on
> transparency and anti-corruption in governments and extractive
> industries.
>
> Mr. Bowser was recently interviewed by independent video-journalist
> Charles Theriault from Kedgewick NB, in the 21st segment of Charles’
> online video project Is Our Forest Really Ours?, Charles explores with
> Don the relationship between transparency, accountability and
> corruption:
>
> “The extractive industries – mining, shale gas, natural gas, and the
> forestry – all that goes on here with very little public consultation.
> Having worked around the world, this is pretty surprising. …All over
> the world citizens are demanding to know, ‘What is going on with
> extractive industries?’ But here everyone seems to accept this lack of
> transparency as business as normal. Almost zero information about
> royalties except from the companies own statements.
>
> “In New Brunswick, natural resources are being extracted, public
> resources are being used for private gain. Where public resources are
> involved you have no right to keep the dealings between government and
> the company secret. I am surprised that civil society in New Brunswick
> has not established any corporate responsibility. They use the fear of
> losing jobs, so people do not rise up, even though the world is
> resource hungry and many other corporations would come in that would
> not expect this lack of transparency.” (18)
>
>  Mr. Bowser’s comments are relevant because your government is taking
> the reports submitted by AMEC for the proponent as professional,
> competent, and valid enough to stand in lieu of a genuine EIA process.
> In no way can AMEC be considered an unbiased or independent consultant
> in regards to these two misnomered documents. AMEC, the consultant
> hired by Corridor Resources to prepare the subject proposal documents,
> has been in partnership with PotashCorp since at least 2007. They
> advertise this on their website. (19) As well, the two companies are
> acting together in a legal matter that goes back to 2010, involving a
> former contractor with PotashCorp on a job where AMEC was the project
> manager. (20) Further, PotashCorp and Corridor have been working
> together since 2003. (21) These linkages make it patently obvious that
> the interests all three companies are deeply integrated.
>
> The hollow pro forma documents submitted by the “insider” project
> partner AMEC do not even come close to a valid environmental impact
> assessment analysis, let alone the transparent, open, full and
> comprehensive environmental impact study that these new development
> proposals require.
>
> Based on these incomplete and misleading documents, prepared by a
> company that is a corporate partner with a corporate partner of the
> proponent, GNB apparently intends to approve this work.
>
> I am deeply concerned about your Government’s apparent lack of honesty
> and transparency, and also your lack of diligence in safeguarding the
> long-term public interest of New Brunswickers. These concerns arise
> from what I now understand to be the approval processes for resource
> industry development in New Brunswick. More on how Mr. Maguire
> illuminated my understanding of the GNB EIA process is found in
> Appendix C.
>
> 7   Call for CMOH to help with a Comprehensive Review of these
> Proposals, and for CMOH and IMPACT to assist GNB to Create a Valid and
> Productive EIA Process
>
> Let me be perfectly clear, I am deeply committed to seeing an
> unconditional, legislated 10 year moratorium placed on all shale gas
> and oil development in this region. However, if shale gas development
> is proceeding, it only seems right that your government ensures
> everything is done totally on the up-and-up, COMPLETELY safely,
> ethically and appropriately, including a thorough prior review. In
> fact, Minister Soucy your department is directly mandated to be
> hands-on in ensuring this.
>
> Our Premier, David Alward, has repeatedly assured First Nations and
> all New Brunswickers that the shale gas and oil industry will not
> place New Brunswickers and our environment at risk. He claims the
> “world-class” GNB Rules for Industry policy document ensures this, but
> the real safeguard is, he says, through public involvement in the
> Environmental Impact review process. I heard him say these things
> personally in a meeting that occurred at Hotel Delta Beausejour on
> October 6, 2013. This was prior to the registration of the first of
> these subject applications. About two weeks later, the Premier
> reiterated this publicly: “there would have to be very significant
> consultations and environmental impact assessments before anything
> else would be able to move forward.” (22) In an article in the Saint
> John Telegraph-Journal on February 26, 2014, Minister of Environment
> and Local Government is quoted saying, “drilling does not go ahead
> without an environmental impact assessment.” Drilling is exactly what
> is planned in the proponent’s October proposal. (23) It is time to
> pony up and show us how well these rules can serve to protect us
> through the EIA process.
>
> Unfortunately, I have no faith that your government will take my
> comments seriously. Successive Governments of New Brunswick have
> failed to take seriously the need to ensure public safety and
> environmental protection in regards to the substantial damage
> associated with this industry. Section 6 and Appendix C describe why I
> agree Dominic Cardy, leader of the New Brunswick NDP, who said, “I
> have no faith in the province’s ability to regulate” the shale gas
> industry. In general, “New Brunswick has a serious problem with
> enforcing the rules.” (24)
>
> Because I am sadly convinced that you will shunt aside all public
> concerns about these proposals, I am forwarding this letter to the
> Office of the Ombudsman for New Brunswick. It is his mandate to ensure
> our provincial government operates with integrity in regards to
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Minister calls foul over nurses' report on long-term care homes

Bruce Fitch says this isn't the time for inquiry or for shifting homes to Health Department

 

CBC News· Posted: Oct 17, 2020 7:00 AM AT

 


Social Development Minister Bruce Fitch said that report is concerning, but he has some issues with how it was arrived at. (CBC)

New Brunswick's minister of social development is calling foul over a report released by the New Brunswick Nurses Union laying out 38 recommendations to improve the province's long-term care sector.

The report, The Forgotten Generation: An Urgent Call for Reform, says the system is "in desperate need of reform" and almost half of nursing homes didn't meet their staffing ratios last year.

Bruce Fitch, who was just named minister after the recent provincial election, said the allegation is concerning, but he has some issues with how it was arrived at.

"I want to find out how they drew that conclusion when sometimes the information I have is different than what the report said."

Fitch said staff from the department were only given an embargoed copy of the report two days before its release. He got the report five minutes before.

"They were shocked that, in fact, a report of this magnitude would go out without them having an opportunity to comment on it, or without the author having interviews within the department to maybe, again, look at some of the conclusions that were drawn or some of the data and opinions that were stated within the report and have a chance to rebut them," said Fitch

The union called for an independent inquiry to examine the state of long-term care in New Brunswick.

Fitch said now is not the time for that because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

A report released by the New Brunswick Nurses Union cites major problems with quality of care and oversight of nursing and special care homes. The union makes 38 recommendations. 3:15

"To bring resources from our department, from the different unions and from various stakeholders to study this even further, to me might not be goal-achieving," said Fitch. 

"What we need to do is take action and make sure that the residents are getting the care that they need today."

There are recommendations that could be looked at, he said, but a recommendation to move nursing homes under the purview of the Department of Health from Social Development isn't one of them.

"It may be a discussion for another day, but today, based on what's happening with COVID-19, with the need to, again, make sure that the seniors are getting appropriate care, having a major shift in governance like that wouldn't be a good use of resources," said Fitch.

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David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise
 
 
 
 
 
Shawn Tabor
40 years,,, in all departments of Government. Folks want it fixed now. Most people can’t remember what happened a month ago. It’s all about me, and I want it now. LOL. Who will we make wealthy this year on the backs of taxpayers. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
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Well Brucie the "time" was not really appropriate for an election either, but, but, but........
Don't these politicians make you sick?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Yup but most of the time i just laugh at their BS and cotinue to pole holes in their stuffed shits.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dallas Mcquarrie
It is a simple fact that there are serious problems in nursing homes in New Brunswick, and other provinces. Chronic understaffing is a major issue, but hardly the only one. Who better than front line health providers to talk about what is needed to reform a system that is failing senior citizens? Fitch needs to quit trying to bury a problem that grows ever more serious, and dealing with the so very obvious problems plaguing nursing homes. Someday he'll likely have to live in one...
 
 
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Reply to @Dallas Mcquarrie: Trust that Higgy et al know that I have been saying such things since 2004. Methinks its strange now that we are the old folks one of the green meanies who laughed at me or ignored me or or slandered me or did all three for years follows my comment today and speaks up and echos me N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
George Smith
This is what many expected from a Higgs government. How is it not the appropriate time to investigate nursing homes? People are getting sick at those homes at a rate that far exceeds the general population. But Fitch suggests we wait until it's over and more seniors get sick and die, then he'll do a study. No wonder the Nurses did their own study and didn't let Fitch butcher it before it was released.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @George Smith: This is an issue that has been building for 40 yrs. Yes we need to deal with it. I am not a Higgs fan. But this isn't anymore his fault than each of his predecessors over the past 40 yrs. Resolution will come with assistance of the Fed through National Standards and Funding.
 
 
Terry Tibbs:
Reply to @JOhn D Bond:
Today it is not the fault of Mr Higgs, though technically it is, he has been playing at government for 2 years now and................ nothing.
It will certainly be his fault tomorrow, or next week, when he graces us with more............ nothing.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I don't think I can agree, while Higgy can certain take some steps. It is going to take a ton of $ to fix the 40 years of cumulative neglect. We need $ from the feds. That should be his 2nd priority.
His first priority should be to get staffing up to standard, not open requisitions, actual qualified people. don't really care where he gets them or what it costs. They are available and he will have to spend to do it, but we don't /can't wait.
 
 
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Yesterday I asked you that question and you responded. Methinks everybody now know why I am not surprised today N'esy Pas?
 
 
 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-nurses-union-long-term-care-inquiry-1.5761788

 

Nurses union calls for independent inquiry into long-term care sector

Union releases report, entitled The Forgotten Generation: An Urgent Call for Reform, makes 38 recommendations

 

Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon· CBC News· Posted: Oct 15, 2020 11:00 AM AT

 


Many nursing homes are 'suffering from an erosion of regulated care professionals, inadequate funding, and a lack of oversight by government, which has led to a continued decline in care,' says Paula Doucet, president of the New Brunswick Nurses Union. (Lighthunter/Shutterstock)

The New Brunswick Nurses Union is calling on the Higgs government to order an independent inquiry into the long-term care sector, citing the "growing severity" of several issues, including low staffing ratios, residents sometimes going without care, such as toilet use and bathing, and an increase in violence.

In a report released on Thursday, the union describes the system as being "in desperate need of reform."

Nearly half of the province's nursing homes failed to meet their minimum safe staffing ratios in 2019, according to the report, entitled The Forgotten Generation: An Urgent Call for Reform in New Brunswick's Long-Term Care Sector.

In some cases, one registered nurse (RN) took care of as many as 200 residents. In other cases, not even one RN was on duty for more than a month.

"Overwhelming evidence supports that safe staffing ratios lead to reductions in resident mortality, fewer medication errors and improved resident outcomes," the report states.

Many crucial care tasks are being left undone, according to a survey of the 505 unionized RNs who work in the province's 68 non-profit and private nursing homes.

Sixty-three per cent of roughly 130 respondents said the job of toileting residents, for example, is being left undone sometimes (32 per cent), often (22 per cent) or always (nine per cent), while 58 per cent reported that bathing residents is being left undone sometimes (31 per cent), often (18 per cent) or always (eight per cent).

"Unacceptable delays in care tasks like toileting or bathing could be seen as neglect serious enough to constitute abuse," the report written by Jeff Hull, the union's education research officer, states.

 

The province has seen 16 reports on seniors and long-term care since 2004, but nurses union president Paula Doucet said this report 'must not — will not — become yet another volume on the government's shelf.' (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Meanwhile, accepted workplace violence claims by nursing home employees more than doubled between 2013 and 2018 to nearly 80. That's more than double those from employees of prisons, according to the union.

"Sadly, what our report makes clear is that — when it comes to long-term care — Government has floundered to find solutions," president Paula Doucet said in a statement.

The nearly 200-page report, which took almost two years to complete, involving access-to-information requests, interviews and surveys, also "raises serious questions about transparency, accountability and Government's duty of care," said Doucet.

It should serve as a "wake-up call," she said. "Our most vulnerable seniors are at risk."

The report makes a total of 38 recommendations to both the provincial and federal governments, covering everything from long-term care governance to nursing shortages and finances, to transparency and accountability, and violence in the workplace.

No cost estimates are provided, but many of the recommendations would cost taxpayers "little or nothing at all," according to the union, because they're policy changes.

"We must reform our system now or face an even more daunting picture in years to come," the report states. "To paraphrase former U.S. President Barack Obama; if you think making smart, evidence­-driven investments is expensive, wait until you see how much ignorance costs."

Premier Blaine Higgs, who has rejected repeated calls for a public inquiry into the justice system, did not respond to a request for comment.

Transfer oversight, end privatization

The union argues the province should transfer oversight responsibility for nursing homes from the Department of Social Development back to the Department of Health, where it was prior to 2000.

"Resident acuity, governance capacity, effective oversight, medical expertise, efficiency and national standards are just some of the many reasons such a change should be made immediately," the report states.

New Brunswick is the only province in Canada where the care of seniors in nursing homes remains overseen by anything other than a health department, it adds.

The introduction of for-profit nursing homes in New Brunswick has not solved the problems it was meant to address.
- Report by the New Brunswick Nurses Union

The report also calls for the government to "immediately and permanently halt efforts to privatize" the nursing home sector.

"The introduction of for-profit nursing homes in New Brunswick has not solved the problems it was meant to address," the report alleges.

And a survey of 500 New Brunswickers found 55 per cent of respondents are either moderately or extremely concerned about "the introduction of a profit motive" into long-term care, it states.

In addition, the union claims for-profit long-term care homes provide "significantly less care to residents and produce substantially worse outcomes."

Consider COVID, says minister

Social Development Minister Bruce Fitch, who only took over as minister a couple of weeks ago, said "a number" of reports on senior care have been done over the years — 16 since 2004, according to the union.

"I think it's time for some action on some of these things and I've asked the department to do a significant drill down on these recommendations," Fitch told CBC News.

He said he needs more time to review the report to better understand where the data came from, and how it was interpreted, before he can comment on any specifics, suggesting "some of these items could be already looked after."

But Fitch did say he thinks keeping long-term care under Social Development is best, at least for now, during the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

Jeff Hull, education research officer for the nurses union, and author of the report, said Thursday during a news conference in Fredericton that the long-term care system is 'operating in a fog. Government is out of data and out of ideas.' (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Two special care homes — the Manoir Notre-Dame in Moncton, and Manoir de la Sagesse in Campbellton — are currently dealing with COVID-19 outbreaks. Earlier this year, several residents and staff at the Manoir de la Vallée long-term care facility in Atholville tested positive for the coronavirus during an outbreak in the Campbellton region, including the province's two fatal cases.

"If we start taking staff and resources away from dealing with COVID, that outcome may not be as positive as what we're experiencing right now," Fitch said.

The budget for long-term care, including home support and senior care support, totals about $550 million, he said.

 

Cecile Cassista, executive director of the Coalition for Seniors and Nursing Home Residents' Rights, said the system is 'failing rapidly' and the report presents an opportunity for the government to take action. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Earlier this week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he thinks it's time to develop national standards on long-term care, as the number of COVID-19 cases continues to rise in Canada.

Under the Canadian constitution, health care is a provincial jurisdiction and the federal government plays only a limited role.

"I think no Canadian wants to see their parents, their grandparents, their loved ones not well cared for in facilities across the country," Trudeau said, adding that there should be no regional disparities in the level of care.

New Brunswick Health Minister Dorothy Shephard did not respond to a request for comment. When she was previously the minister of Social Development, she opposed the idea of transferring the file to Health.

Increase care hours, focus on 'lax' standards

The union recommends the provincial government should incrementally increase the number of care hours provided to nursing homes residents from 2.89 to 4.1, including 45 minutes per day with an RN.

Research indicates that 4.1 hours of care per resident per day is a threshold beneath which "negative outcomes can be expected," the report states.

Gerentologist and St. Thomas University Prof. Deborah van den Hoonaard, who wrote the report's foreword, said the government has been lowering hours of care for years.


Gerentologist and St. Thomas University Prof. Deborah van den Hoonaard, who wrote the report's foreword, called the findings shocking but not surprising. She urges people in reviewing the report to consider how they would want to live if they were in long-term care. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Such cost-cutting decisions reflect a "custodial attitude, as if the people who live in nursing homes just need to be fed and watered and kept clean," she said during a news conference in Fredericton Thursday. "It does not see them as full human beings.

"Residents who live in nursing homes are not chairs to be dusted. They're full of human beings."

The government should also add contracted nursing home inspectors, overseen by an experienced compliance specialist, for at least three years, to "restore acceptable levels of accountability" in New Brunswick nursing homes.

Standards and compliance have become "lax, and must be strengthened," according to the report.

As of spring 2020, for example, seven of the province's 68 nursing homes still didn't have their 2019 inspection reports posted online.

Mandate RN-resident ratios

Similarly, the report recommends the government check compliance with minimum registered nurse staffing standards in every nursing home and establish penalties for violations, rather than just issue non-compliance notices.

"It is clear from the evidence presented in this report that New Brunswick nursing homes are either unwilling or unable to meet their current RN staffing ratios and — in some cases — the requirement for maintaining even one RN on duty," it states.

Nearly one-third of all RNs in New Brunswick's long-term care sector left their positions in 2017.

 

Eighty-nine per cent of the 134 Registered Nurses surveyed said that providing nursing home residents with exercise is being left undone sometimes (18 per cent), often (50 per cent) or always (21 per cent). (Roger Cosman/CBC)

In 2019, 31 nursing homes received non-compliance notices for violations of staffing ratios, including every home in the Restigouche region and the Acadian Peninsula, "yet these trends continue unabated."

New Brunswick should follow the lead of Australia, California and Quebec by implementing RN-to-resident care ratios to "ensure resident safety is never compromised by economic pressures."

Mandated RN-resident ratios in other jurisdictions are between 1:20 and 1:44, depending on the time of day, according to the report.

Track violent incidents

The province's annual nursing home inspections should include a review of violence, tracking totals found in major incident reports and elsewhere, and require that every nursing home in New Brunswick complete its annual workplace violence assessment, the union recommends.

As it stands, nearly one-quarter of all WorkSafeNB claims for workplace violence come from employees of nursing homes, but evidence suggests that much of the violence goes unreported.

In 2018, three-quarters of nursing home RNs surveyed said they had experienced a violent incident.


Nursing home employers should adopt key-performance indicators, reviewed quarterly by their boards, that measure improvement in the total number of violent incidents reported by employees, including verbal abuse and harassment, the union recommends. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Sixty-five per cent reported that the violence originated with residents, while the rest involved family members of residents, co-workers or employers, according to the union.

"Perhaps most worryingly, 45 per cent of RNs surveyed said they made no attempt to report the violence against them," the report states.

"Government, employers and public sector unions should convene a roundtable on aggression, violence and sexual aggression in the long-term care sector, to review best practices, and to develop and adopt common policies and/or collective agreement language that provides a comprehensive response to these trends."

Seeks studies by auditor general and seniors' advocate

The union wants the Higgs government to create an independent and non-partisan commission to examine the status of long-term care in New Brunswick.

The commission should be named no later than the first 2021 sitting of the legislature, and must have the authority to send for persons, papers and records and to examine witnesses under oath, the union said.

In the interim, it recommends cabinet ask the auditor general to conduct an investigation into the issues raised in the report, and make sufficient funds available.

The Office of the New Brunswick Seniors' Advocate should also undertake a funding review of the long-term care sector, based on a recent similar review by its counterpart in British Columbia, the report recommends.

These two investigations should inform the work of the independent commission, the union said.

The commission's recommendations should then inform a revised long-term care strategy for New Brunswick and a revision of the Nursing Homes Act.


The Department of Social Development maintains no database for compiling most of the information it collects from the 68 nursing homes it oversees, according to the union. It has no way to identify trends, no way to flag emerging threats. (Shutterstock / vuqarali)

The act should be revised to include evidence-based staffing standards, violence-prevention mechanisms, and "demonstrable commitments to public reporting, accountability and transparency," according to the report.

These two revised documents should then form the foundation of future long-term care in New Brunswick, it recommends.

"These recommendations are not presented as a menu from which Government may pick or choose. The serious challenges facing New Brunswick's long-term care sector are multi-faceted, and only a comprehensive multi-faceted approach can make inroads into dealing with them," the report states.

The government has "routinely ignored" many of the suggestions made by previous reports about long-term care, including those of its own auditor general, according to the union.

As a result, the union plans to publish a report card on the recommendations in its report by fall 2023.

Act now to address nursing shortage

Among some of the other recommendations, nursing homes should make immediate arrangements, in co-operation with the government, to increase the amount of full-time permanent positions being offered to nursing home RNs, targeting a ratio of no more than two casual job offers for each permanent offer.

The reliance on casual staffing in many nursing homes has risen to "unacceptably high levels," according to the union.

"Absent financial incentives, offers of full-time permanent employment — with their accompanying pension and benefits — are one of the few tools available to nursing home employers when navigating a highly competitive job market, especially in rural areas," the report states.


The union plans to publish a report card on the 38 recommendations in its report by the fall of 2023. (CBC)

In 2019, the Horizon Health Network and Vitalité Health Network reported a need for an additional 520 registered nurses a year for the next five years.

The government should "immediately move" to address the nursing shortage by taking the University of New Brunswick up on its offer to expand its four-year bachelor of nursing program by over 300 seats, according to the union.

It should also ensure that the University of Moncton's ability to recruit into its bachelor of nursing programs is strengthened, the union said.

New Brunswick's nursing strategy, published last year, called for increased promotion of the RN profession among K-12 students.

The government should also require that a percentage of nursing student work placements take place within the long-term care sector to help expose students to possible careers within the system, the union said.

In addition, the government should make a "determined and adequately funded effort" to recruit more internationally educated nurses, with a goal of registering 50 per year in the long-term care sector, the report recommends.

Transparency and accountability

To increase transparency and accountability, the government should undertake a review of the Right to Information and Protection of Privacy Act and the systems that support it, with an eye to making information on government partnerships more accessible to New Brunswickers, the union said.

The public should have "easy access" to information regarding how much the government spends on the province's vulnerable seniors, the staff who care for them and the buildings that house them, it contends.

  

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Terry Tibbs
This is so unfair.
These nurses are trying to take advantage of those who can't walk and chew gum at the same time (our government) and the only possible outcome is mass confusion within our government.

 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Can you imagine Mr Fitch actually doing anything?

Methinks its a classic case of Dumb versus Dumber N'esy Pas?
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
At the very least.............
Maybe Ernie the radio guy, our financial whiz, can get wound into it too?
And don't forget the X-Irving song and dance man, maybe he can suggest all the seniors seek better accommodations out in Alberta. Seniors- nurses, same difference, right? 
 
 
 
 

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RCMP pension plan discriminates against women, says Supreme Court

Three of the top court's nine justices dissented

 

Catharine Tunney· CBC News· Posted: Oct 16, 2020 12:36 PM ET

 

 

Retired RCMP Sgt. Joanne Fraser, right, is one of three women who took the national police force to court, arguing its pension plan discriminates against women who work part-time to care for young children. (Joanne Fraser)

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police pension plan discriminates against women and violates the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Supreme Court ruled in a divided decision released today.

The case was brought forward by three retired female Mounties who argued that elements of the RCMP's pension plan are outdated and sexist.

Joanne Fraser, Allison Pilgrim and Colleen Fox all had children in the 1990s, when the RCMP wasn't allowing members to work part-time.

Fraser said she was "overwhelmed" by the effort to balance work and family, Pilgrim described it as a "treadmill" and Fox called the experience "hell on earth," said Friday's decision.

The RCMP introduced a program in 1997 that allowed job-sharing as an alternative to unpaid leave, permitting two or three people to split the duties of one full-time position. All three women signed up for that program, as did 137 other members between 1997 and 2011.

The court's decision noted that most people who joined the program at the time were women and most of them cited child care as their reason for joining.

When Fraser, Pilgrim and Fox returned to their full-time jobs, they learned their part-time work was not considered pensionable service and they would not be permitted to make doubled-up contributions to buy back the time.

But other members with gaps in full-time service, such as leave without pay, were allowed to buy back the service they missed by making the contributions.

The plaintiffs argued that the force's pension plan treated job-sharers worse than it did other members and breached the section of the Charter of Rights that says the "law should treat everyone equally, without discrimination on certain characteristics."

SCC decision notes 'historical disadvantage'

A Federal Court judge disagreed, but the Supreme Court of Canada agreed to hear their arguments. 

Today, most of the Supreme Court justices ruled the pension plan discriminated against the job-sharers because they were women.

Justice Rosalie Abella, writing for the majority, called it a clear violation of the charter.

"Full-time RCMP members who job-share must sacrifice pension benefits because of a temporary reduction in working hours. This arrangement has a disproportionate impact on women and perpetuates their historical disadvantage," says the decision. 

"I agree with Ms. Fraser that the negative pension consequences of job-sharing perpetuate a long-standing source of disadvantage to women: gender biases within pension plans, which have historically been designed 'for middle and upper-income full-time employees with long service, typically male.'"

Paul Champ, who defended the three women, called today's decision a win for equality.

"The federal government has tinkered with the RCMP pension plan over the years to make it fairer for women who have interruptions in their service for childbirth and care for small children. But it continued to penalize women who wanted to balance their job duties and childcare responsibilities for young children," he said.

"My clients fought for over 20 years to bring this fundamental equality issue to the attention of the RCMP and, eventually, the courts. They understood it was wrong and unfair to women and they fought all these years to make it right."

Three justices dissented.

Justices Russell Brown and Malcolm Rowe wrote that the job-sharing program was an attempt by the RCMP to accommodate employees with child care responsibilities and argued that the initiative's failure to remove disadvantages didn't make it discriminatory.

Justice Suzanne Côté, meanwhile, argued that the pension plan didn't single women out for discrimination.

Abella said it will be up to government officials to come up with a plan to allow full-time members who reduced their hours under the job-sharing program to buy back their full pension credit.

A spokesperson for the RCMP said the force is still reviewing Friday's decision.

"We are currently in the process of reviewing the decision and its implications to determine what steps must be taken. This being said, we are committed to reviewing the job-sharing arrangement," said Cpl. Caroline Duval.

"The RCMP remains committed to building an inclusive and barrier-free workplace for all of its employees."

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"Justice Catherine Kane decided the women did not lose pension benefits because they were women or parents, but because they chose to work part-time.

"They worked part-time in a job-sharing arrangement to meet the competing demands of their child-care responsibilities and their career," Kane wrote.

The judge agreed that while the majority of Mounties who work part-time are women with young children, she said they also benefited from spending more time with their children and less stress in trying to find child care.

As for the overall impact on their pensions, Kane found it would be reduced, on average, by five per cent but that "it is difficult to conclude that the impact is necessarily adverse."
 
 
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Reply to @David Amos: The women's lawyer, Paul Champ, said today's judgment is a big disappointment for his clients, who fought the issue inside the RCMP for 10 years before turning to the courts.

"The court recognized that care for children disproportionately falls to women in Canada, including women in dual-earner families, Champ wrote in an email to CBC News.

He said his clients are reviewing the judgment and considering an appeal.

"Hopefully the federal government will take a close look at this decision and recognize that pension plans for RCMP and public service workers need to be reformed to be more equitable for parents who choose to temporarily work part-time to care for their children. This would be the right policy choice for a feminist prime minister," Champ said, in reference to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's own oft-stated description.

It is likely that Thursday's ruling, however, will be a relief to the federal government. If the Federal Court had changed the RCMP pension plan to allow people to accrue pensionable service while job sharing or working part-time, the government would likely have had to do it for all other public servants.

 

 

 

 

 

 http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/06/federal-court-dismisses-claims-that.html

 

 

Friday, 9 June 2017

Federal Court dismisses claims that RCMP pension plan discriminatory 

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-pension-young-mothers-federal-court-1.4151519


Federal Court dismisses claims that RCMP pension plan discriminatory

Lawyer says claimants are disappointed and considering appeal to the Federal Court of Appeal

By Alison Crawford, CBC NewsPosted: Jun 08, 2017 12:14 PM ET


Retired RCMP Sgt. Joanne Fraser, right, is one of three women who took the national police force to Federal Court to argue the RCMP pension plan discriminates against women who work part-time to care for young children.
Retired RCMP Sgt. Joanne Fraser, right, is one of three women who took the national police force to Federal Court to argue the RCMP pension plan discriminates against women who work part-time to care for young children. (Joanne Fraser) 

The Federal Court has dismissed claims from three retired female Mounties who argued that elements of the RCMP's pension plan are outdated and sexist.

Joanne Fraser, Allison Pilgrim and Colleen Fox decided to work part-time temporarily for the national police force after having children, in order to accommodate child-care arrangements while doing shift work.

When they returned to their full-time jobs they learned their part-time work was not considered pensionable service and they would not be permitted to make doubled-up contributions to buy back the time they had not worked.

On Thursday, Justice Catherine Kane decided the women did not lose pension benefits because they were women or parents, but because they chose to work part-time.

"They worked part-time in a job-sharing arrangement to meet the competing demands of their child-care responsibilities and their career," Kane wrote.

The judge agreed that while the majority of Mounties who work part-time are women with young children, she said they also benefited from spending more time with their children and less stress in trying to find child care.

As for the overall impact on their pensions, Kane found it would be reduced, on average, by five per cent but that "it is difficult to conclude that the impact is necessarily adverse."

The women's lawyer, Paul Champ, said today's judgment is a big disappointment for his clients, who fought the issue inside the RCMP for 10 years before turning to the courts.

"The court recognized that care for children disproportionately falls to women in Canada, including women in dual-earner families, Champ wrote in an email to CBC News.

He said his clients are reviewing the judgment and considering an appeal.

"Hopefully the federal government will take a close look at this decision and recognize that pension plans for RCMP and public service workers need to be reformed to be more equitable for parents who choose to temporarily work part-time to care for their children. This would be the right policy choice for a feminist prime minister," Champ said, in reference to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's own oft-stated description.

It is likely that Thursday's ruling, however, will be a relief to the federal government. If the Federal Court had changed the RCMP pension plan to allow people to accrue pensionable service while job sharing or working part-time, the government would likely have had to do it for all other public servants.
 
 
 
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 Darren MacDonald 
Darren MacDonald
"they chose to work part-time"
That makes sense with the key word being "chose".


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Darren MacDonald Its rather simple to me a deal is a deal is a deal. The ladies knew the scoop before they opted to work part time. However their lawyer is getting well paid full time all the time. You bet he wants to appeal.


Anthony Laface 
Anthony Laface
".....to buy back the time they had not worked." Huh? They expected to get a pension for time that they had not worked? Really? Only spoiled civil servants would even broach this sort of ludicrous entitlement.


linda romero
linda romero
@Anthony Laface ..and they are entitled to full pension I believe at 55,and the pension plan is really "GOLDEN"..


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@linda romero I checked out their pension years ago and it truly is "Golden"


Jim Redmond
Jim Redmond
I don't even understand what that basis was for the claim of discrimination. If someone willingly decides to work part-time, obviously their pension benefits do not accumulate during the period in which they end up working part-time. Why is that such a difficult concept for some people to grasp? 
 
David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Jim Redmond How can hundreds of lady cops be sexually assaulted etc for years then suddenly be offended after they retire?
Jim Redmond
Jim Redmond
@David Raymond Amos It's called taking a shot at winning the lottery.


Nick O'Reilly 
Nick O'Reilly
Of course, it is not discrimination, but way to take it up in court, ladies! Could you imagine being in their chain-of-command and having to listen to them for 10 years?


Jack O Hill
Jack O Hill
@Natalie Jameson

Change is done on a going-forward basis, through negotiations.

It is NOT done retroactively through the courts.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Jack O Hill I would like to think that were so


Daquano Sullivan Brown 
Daquano Sullivan Brown
I suppose they are entitled to their entitlements.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Daquano Sullivan Brown Only sneaky political lawyers such David Dingwall can say such nonsense and get away with making us pay for his bubble gum etc.

Awistoyus Nahasthay
Awistoyus Nahasthay
@Daquano Sullivan Brown

Um, if they are "entitlements" then they are, by definition, "entitled" to them. If they weren't, then they wouldn't be "entitlements".

Awistoyus Nahasthay
Awistoyus Nahasthay
@David Raymond Amos

It is NOT nonsense David, it is plain, simple, logic.
It is people speaking against the concept - that someone is entitled to their entitlements - that is pure nonsense!

David Cradden
David Cradden
@Awistoyus Nahasthay
I think the point is they aren't entitled just because they have a sense of entitlement!

Steve Sullivan
Steve Sullivan
@Awistoyus Nahasthay Its a famous quote from a politician.

 




Pension plan discriminatory, female Mounties tell court

If judge agrees, it could affect all federal public service pensions, lawyer says

By Alison Crawford, CBC NewsPosted: Dec 19, 2016 5:00 AM ET
 
Retired RCMP Sgt. Joanne Fraser on duty in 2010. She belongs to a group of female Mounties who are fighting for lost pension benefits.
Retired RCMP Sgt. Joanne Fraser on duty in 2010. She belongs to a group of female Mounties who are fighting for lost pension benefits. (Joanne Fraser) 

Three retired female Mounties head to Federal Court today to argue that elements of the RCMP's pension plan are outdated and sexist. If they're successful, it could mean big changes for other public service pensions, their lawyer says.

Joanne Fraser, Allison Pilgrim and Colleen Fox decided to work part time temporarily for the national police force after having children, in order to accommodate child-care arrangements while doing shift work.

Yet when they returned to work full time they learned their part-time stints were not considered pensionable service for which they could "buy back" the time they didn't work by making doubled-up contributions on behalf of themselves and the RCMP.

What really annoyed the women, though, was that RCMP employees who were suspended with or without pay, or who chose to take as much as five years off work without pay, were allowed to buy back their pension contributions.

RCMP Harassment 20161006
Any decision to permit RCMP members to buy back pension benefits should be left to Parliament, lawyers for Canada's attorney general argue. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

"It doesn't make sense that someone can be off for a total of five years without contributing to the RCMP at all, yet buy back that full five years of pension," said Fraser, who retired a sergeant in 2015 after 27 years of service.

Documents filed on the women's behalf by Ottawa labour lawyer Paul Champ say the RCMP pension plan discriminates on the grounds of sex and family status.

"The plan perpetuates the stereotype that it is acceptable for women to fill one of two roles in society — that of caregiver or member of the labour force, but not both at the same time."

The RCMP first allowed people to work in job-share agreements in 1997. According to the RCMP's 2012 gender-based assessment, the aim was to accommodate women and others who need "maternity/parental leave."

The same year, a draft employment equity plan said the force would promote part-time work "to support women and others achieve a better balance in coping with work and family responsibilities."
 
'I felt as though I was excelling as a mother and as a member of the RCMP.'— Colleen Fox

Fraser was one of the first people to try out the new scheme. Like many women in Canada in the 1990s, she returned to work six months after having her first child. It was tough.

"I'm married to a member as well. We were working shift work. We had no family in Alberta, all of our family is in Quebec and Ontario," she told CBC News.

When Fraser had her second child, she decided to take a leave without pay. After three years, Fraser said, she was encouraged to try job-sharing. She worked part time for three years before resuming her full-time job.

Child-care challenges


It was then she learned that while her three years of unpaid leave were fully deemed pensionable service, she could not buy back the hours she didn't work while part-time.

Fox also described in court documents the challenge of balancing police work and life with an infant.

She had to meet her husband, who is also a Mountie, "at coffee shops and on lunch breaks while she was on patrol so she could breastfeed her son."

After having her second child in a rural community with limited child-care options before part-time work was introduced in 1997, Fox felt she had no option but to retire.

In 2000 she re-enrolled because she could job-share. "I felt as though I was excelling as a mother and as a member of the RCMP."

'The federal Public Service Superannuation Act also has this discriminating element to it.'— Lawyer Paul Champ

"The applicants all face lower pension benefits on retirement because they chose to job-share and balance their police duties with their family obligations while their children were young," Champ argues, citing statistics that show everyone who shared jobs between 2010 and 2014 was a woman.

The women hope the Federal Court will find the pension plan discriminatory and grant all Mounties who've worked reduced, job-share hours the right to buy back pensionable service.

Big changes possible


In their documents, lawyers for Canada's attorney general dispute that most of the RCMP's part-time employees are women with young children. They say any decision to permit members to buy back pension benefits "would be making a significant policy choice that is best left to Parliament."

"The aim of the RCMP pension plan is to provide retirement income and benefits for members. It is not to offset the costs associated with child care, to provide 'universal welfare benefits,' or to meet all of the needs of its beneficiaries."

What the government is likely more concerned with though, is a ripple effect, Champ said.

"If they change the RCMP pension plan to allow people to get pensionable service while working part time, they would have to do it for other public service workers because the federal Public Service Superannuation Act also has this discriminating element to it, and I think they might be concerned about costs," said Champ.

 
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 Ene' Baziuk 
Ene' Baziuk
How is this discriminatory when fathers who take time off get treated the exact same way? Do feminists want equality or do they want special treatment?


Jay Leno
Jay Leno
@Ene' Baziuk
The Pension plan for Mounties is not "outdated", on the contrary, and if anything, it's too much Gold-Plated.

Jay Mann
Jay Mann
@Chelle Baldwin
I would most certainly complain if employees on leave were allowed to continue to make full-time level contributions but part time employees were not.
 
 
 
 
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Trudeau government's decision to abandon mediation talks"

On 10/9/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> If not at least a former intelligence officer should know who these dudes
> are and why Petey Mackay is very nervous about what I am up to these days.
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> In my humble opinion the better question for you to ask after you quit
> interupting with the same dumb question would how can I help you My number
> is 902 800 0369 perhaps your lawyer should check the pdf hereto attached and
> try to talk to a very serious whisteblower EH?
>
> http://www.seanbruyea.com/seans-work/complete-list-of-articles-authored-by-sean/government-accountability-and-whistleblowers/
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> FYI check this lawyer's work about your Fed buddies
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> http://www.waterwarcrimes.com/department-of-justice-and-the-waterwarcrimes.html
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> New Deputy Minister of Justice - Myles Kirvan
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> Deputy Minister of Justice in a nation that is covering up a major
> international crime is a dangerous job.  Astute observers are asking: How
> long will Canada's newest Deputy Minister of Justice and Deputy Attorney
> General, Mr. Myles Kirvan last in his new job?
>
> Formerly Associate Deputy Minister of Public Safety, Mr. Kirvan becomes
> Deputy Minister of Justice and Deputy Attorney General of Canada, effective
> April 6.
>
> Mr. Kirvan replaces outgoing Deputy Minister, John Sims, Q.C., who was
> caught making fraudulent submissions in the WaterWarCrimes lawsuit in
> Canada's Federal Court, who refused to retract the submission and who
> suddenly resigned, effective April 1, 2010, a few short weeks after his
> misconduct was broadcast internationally via several whistle blowing sites
> on the internet, such as Paul Drockton, Jeff Rense and David Icke.  Canada's
> mainstream media ignored the story.
>
> As Associate Deputy Minister of Public Safety, (RCMP) from October 1, 2007
> to date, Mr. Kirvan would probably have been privy to the secret police
> files containing the identity of the Water War Criminals - a group that
> Canadian legal authorities have consistently refused to investigate and
> prosecute.
>
> We at the WaterWarCrimes crimes web site and blog welcome the appointment of
> Mr. Myles Kirvan to the position of Deputy Minister of Justice and Attorney
> General for Canada.   It is always refreshing to see a new face and our
> expectation of common human decency,  justice and fair and equitable
> treatment from our fellow human beings is ever present nothwithstanding the
> sinister, devilish, and corrupt record of Canadian and British Columbia
> Government employees to date.
>
> In 1991, Myles Kirvan began his Public Service career in the Department of
> Justice as General Counsel, Federal-Provincial Relations Office. He went on
> to serve in the Department of Justice in various capacities including Senior
> Advisor to the Associate Deputy Minister, Public Law;  General Counsel,
> Dispute Resolution Services;  Senior General Counsel, Legal Services, Health
> Canada;  and from 2003-2007, Assistant Deputy Minister, Business and
> Regulatory Law.
>
> Prior to joining the Public Service of Canada, Myles Kirvan served as an
> advisor to Ministers. He has served as Legislative Assistant to the
> Solicitor General of Canada; Senior Policy Advisor to the Minister of
> National Revenue; Judicial Affairs Advisor and then Chief of Staff for the
> Minister of Justice and Attorney General. In 1993 Myles Kirvan served as
> Deputy Chief of Staff to the Prime Minister.
>
> Myles Kirvan is a member of the Law Society of Upper Canada a.k.a. the
> Province of Ontario.  He holds a B.A. from Carleton University and an LL.B.
> from the University of Ottawa.
>
> We will be watching Mr. Kirvan VERY closely and keep out readers posted on
> the conduct of Canada's Ministry of Justice under Deputy Attorney
> General, Myles Kirvan.
>
>
> Did Deputy Minister of Justice John Sims Commit Fraud?
> Was He Fired??
>
> John Sims, Q.C.
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> John Sims is Canada's Deputy Minister of Justice.  He and his subordinates
> are supposed to tell the truth in Court proceedings but they do not.
>
> Mr. Sims has falsely, recklessly, argued in the Federal Court, that
> the lawsuit filed in the Federal Court under Action T-95-09, by Ms. Gibbs
> and Mr. Carten, as joint plaintiffs, is a re-litigation of
> an application, filed by Mr. Carten, acting alone, in Octrober, 2007, in the
> Supreme Court of British Columbia, Kelowna Registry, Action No. 77000.
>
> This argument by Mr. John Sims is nonsense and we think it is a deliberate
> fraud.
>
> The two claims are entirely different.
>
> The claim filed in Kelowna was an application for an injunction to restrain
> the Provincial Court judges in British Columbia from the dealing with the
> matter of the enforcement of the accumulated arrears of child support that
> now total close to $400,000 that Mr. Carten supposedly owes to his ex-wife
> as a result of the deliberately excessive child support payment order made
> against him by former BC Deupty Attorney General Robert Edwards.  The
> Provincial Court Judges will not permit Mr. Carten to call necessary or
> useful witnesses and have been trying to railroad him.
>
> By contrast, the claim in the Federal Court is a claim seeking compensatory
> damages against the Government of Canada and the Government of British
> Colubmia and several others for conspiriing to cause harm to Mr. Carten and
> Ms. Gibbs because they were connected to Sun Belt Water Inc. and deemed to
> be assisting Sun Belt Water Inc. on a path that would reveal who the
> criminals behind the WaterWarCrimes were.
>
> We have accused John Sims, Q.C., the Deputy Attorney General for Canada of
> intentionally misleading the Court and he has not responded to our
> allegation.
>
> Silence is agreement.
>
> We sent our allegation to every member of the House of Commons and Senate of
> Canada, by e-mail on December 25, 2009, and on December 30, 2009, before the
> members returned to their offices, Prime Minister Harper suspended
> (prorogued) Parliament.  Is this just another one of those strange
> co-incidences like the nine dead judges?
>
>
> John Sims Deputy Minister of Justice - Professional Background
>
> John Sims
>
> In 2009 the Government of Canada awarded Mr. Sims The Outstanding
> Achievement Award.  The award is considered to be the most prestigious award
> in the Public Service, this award is presented to senior public service
> employees who have distinguished themselves by a sustained commitment to
> excellence.
>
> The Government of Canada made the following comments about Mr. Sims at the
> time of his receiving the award.
>
> "Mr. Sims received a Bachelor of Arts (Honours) in History and Economics and
> a Bachelor of Laws from Queen's University. He was called to the Ontario Bar
> in 1973 and joined the Public Service of Canada in 1977 as legal counsel to
> Transport Canada.
>
> As a lawyer, Mr. Sims has provided high-quality legal advice to ministers
> and the Government of Canada on some of the most complex and sensitive
> policy and operational priorities of the government, such as aviation
> safety, war crimes, labour relations and national security (including as the
> first head of legal services at the Canadian Security Intelligence
> Service).  His advice has always reflected the highest standards of
> integrity and ethical behaviour and has been informed by the broader context
> and potential implications".
>
> For the full text of the remarks about Mr. Sims go to
> http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/arp/prbr09-eng.asp
>
> We ask the reader:
>
> If Mr. Sims has a high reputation for integrity why did he mislead the
> Federal Court?
>
>
> It Sure Looks Like John Sims Was Fired?
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>
> Referring to whether a high level Ottawa minister will resign or be
> fired, CTV Ottawa bureau chief Robert Fife recently stated:
>
> “In this town nobody voluntarily resigns,” Mr. Fife said. “They’ve got a
> limo, and a staff, and they love this sort of stuff. She’s not going to give
> it up.”
>
> Link to the Fife quote:
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/a-maternal-health-answer-and-more-helena-guergis-questions/article1522963/
>
> Based on Robert Fife's reputation for logical thinking and other factors
> outlined above, we think that John Sims was fired.
>
> This web site and our Chronology of events at
> http://waterwarcrimes.blogspot.com began posting the complaints about John
> Sims and how he misled Prothonotary Lafreniere of Canada's Federal Court in
> February 2010.  Then, in the last week of February and the first week of
> March 2010, the story of the corruption by John Sims begain circulating
> around the planet courtesy of some prominent internationally recognized
> whistle blowers, such as Jeff Rense, Paul Drockton, David Icke and many
> others who helped get the truth out along with John Sims.
>
> On March 15, 2010, John Sims, Q.C., Canada's Deputy Minister of Justice and
> Deputy Attorney General tendered his resigntion effective April 1, 2010.
>
>
> Sean Bruyea
> Sean lives in the Ottawa area and can be reached at the following telephone
> number and email address:
> Telephone Number:  (613) 825-8002
> Email: seankis@rogers.com
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> http://www.seanbruyea.com/wp-content/uploads/BruyeaClaim.pdf
>
> http://champlaw.ca/8801/19601.html
>
> Champ & Associates
> 43 Florence Street
> Ottawa, ON  K2P 0W6
> Phone: (613) 237-4740
> Fax: (613) 232-2680
> info@champlaw.ca
> --- On Mon, 9/27/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
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> From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Here is some more info for the PC wannabe MLAs to chew on EH Wally
> Stiles?
> To: carl@carlkillen.ca, info@craigleonard.ca, sherry38@nbnet.nb.ca,
> vote@mcblais.ca, fredalbertpc@hotmail.com, yvonbon@ca.inter.net,
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> oldmaison@yahoo.com, nbpolitico@gmail.com, spinks08@hotmail.com,
> nb.premier@gmail.com, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, info@philipchiasson.com,
> janice.brun@rogers.com, dfortunat@yahoo.com, brucehickey1@hotmail.com,
> elijos@bellaliant.net, dmaltais@rogers.com, bathurst@nancymckay.ca,
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> wally.stiles@gnb.ca, victor.boudreau@gnb.ca, rchedore@mosherchedore.ca,
> dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> Received: Monday, September 27, 2010, 2:47 PM
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:30:01 -0300
> Subject: RE: Email from the BHP Billiton Chairman
> To: David.ALWARD@gnb.ca, jacques_poitras@cbc.ca, cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca,
> tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com, nmiller@corridor.ca,
> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, atlbf@nb.aibn.com, akapoor@globeandmail.com,
> nmacadam@globeandmail.com, vepp@globeandmail.com
> Cc: fpletters@nationalpost.com, jlsteve@ucalgary.ca, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, danfour <danfour@myginch.com>, "shawn. graham"
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> Here is something for some students out west to ponder ASAP EH David
> Alward?
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash/ottawa-to-train-sharp-eye-on-potash-bids/article1706105/
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> http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/09/13/the-potash-debate-block-the-bid/#more-5062
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Collins, Susan J (COSEC)"<Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com>
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:23:12 +1000
> Subject: Email to BHP Billiton Chairman's
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Please find attached a letter from Mr Jac Nasser, Chairman of BHP
> Billiton
> Susan Collins
> Company Secretariat
> BHP Billiton | 180 Lonsdale St | Melbourne Vic 3000 |Australia
> T: +61 3 9609 2654 | M: +61 427 713 994 | F: +61 3 9609 3290
> E: susan.j.collins@bhpbilliton.com<mailto:jane.mcaloon@bhpbilliton.com>
>  <<Amos D 2010 09 14.pdf>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:36 AM
>> To: pr@potashcorp.com; Podwika@potashcorp.com;
>> fosterd@bennettjones.ca; corporate.relations@potashcorp.com;
>> lgold.blcanada@b-l.com; shawn. graham; David.ALWARD@gnb.ca;
>> krisaustin; jacques_poitras@cbc.ca; cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca;
>> tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com; nmiller@corridor.ca;
>> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca; atlbf@nb.aibn.com; akapoor@globeandmail.com;
>> nmacadam@globeandmail.com; vepp@globeandmail.com;
>> potash@mackenziepartners.com; contactus@kingsdaleshareholder.com;
>> rick.hancox; Bernard.LeBlanc; Liebenberg, Andre;
>> mclellana@bennettjones.com; MooreR; danfour; oldmaison@yahoo.com;
>> Harris, Brendan; Dean.Buzza; Gilles. Blinn
>> Cc: wcoady; michel.desneiges@sade-els.org; producers@stu.ca;
>> WaterWarCrimes; Penny Bright; tony; Nasser, Jacques
>> Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
>> of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
>> you people buy much stock in their stock eh?
>>
>> With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
>> issues again about  theexploitation of our natural resources to a
>> bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
>> attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
>> McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
>> did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
>> conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
>> Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
>> now)
>>
>> Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
>> with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
>> sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
>> simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
>> have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>>
>>
>
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>
> --- On Mon, 9/13/10, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Subject: How is your conscience and sense of ethical conduct doing now
> ladies?
> To: Jane.McAloon@bhpbilliton.com, Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com
> Cc: "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"<william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> "Dean.Buzza"<Dean.Buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
> Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:57 PM
>
>
> Jane McAloon (Group Company Secretary) BEc (Hons), LLB, GDipGov, FCIS
> Term of office: Jane McAloon was appointed Group Company Secretary in
> July 2007 and joined the BHP Billiton Group in September 2006 as
> Company Secretary for BHP Billiton Limited.
> Skills and experience: Prior to joining BHP Billiton, Jane McAloon
> held the position of Company Secretary and Group Manager External and
> Regulatory Services in the Australian Gas Light Company. She
> previously held various State and Commonwealth government positions,
> including Director General of the NSW Ministry of Energy and Utilities
> and Deputy Director General for the NSW Cabinet Office, as well as
> working in private legal practice. She is a Fellow of the Institute of
> Chartered Secretaries.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Collins, Susan J (COSEC)"<Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com>
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:23:12 +1000
> Subject: Email to BHP Billiton Chairman's
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
>
> Please find attached a letter from Mr Jac Nasser, Chairman of BHP
> Billiton
>
> Susan Collins
> Company Secretariat
> BHP Billiton | 180 Lonsdale St | Melbourne Vic 3000 |Australia
> T: +61 3 9609 2654 | M: +61 427 713 994 | F: +61 3 9609 3290
> E: susan.j.collins@bhpbilliton.com<mailto:jane.mcaloon@bhpbilliton.com>
>
> <<Amos D 2010 09 14.pdf>>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:36 AM
>> To: pr@potashcorp.com; Podwika@potashcorp.com;
>> fosterd@bennettjones.ca; corporate.relations@potashcorp.com;
>> lgold.blcanada@b-l.com; shawn. graham; David.ALWARD@gnb.ca;
>> krisaustin; jacques_poitras@cbc.ca; cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca;
>> tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com; nmiller@corridor.ca;
>> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca; atlbf@nb.aibn.com; akapoor@globeandmail.com;
>> nmacadam@globeandmail.com; vepp@globeandmail.com;
>> potash@mackenziepartners.com; contactus@kingsdaleshareholder.com;
>> rick.hancox; Bernard.LeBlanc; Liebenberg, Andre;
>> mclellana@bennettjones.com; MooreR; danfour; oldmaison@yahoo.com;
>> Harris, Brendan; Dean.Buzza; Gilles. Blinn
>> Cc: wcoady; michel.desneiges@sade-els.org; producers@stu.ca;
>> WaterWarCrimes; Penny Bright; tony; Nasser, Jacques
>> Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
>> of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
>> you people buy much stock in their stock eh?
>>
>> With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
>> issues again about  theexploitation of our natural resources to a
>> bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
>> attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
>> McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
>> did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
>> conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
>> Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
>> now)
>>
>> Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
>> with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
>> sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
>> simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
>> have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>>
>>
>
>
> This message and any attached files may contain information that is
> confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use
> by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or
> the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended
> recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and
> that any dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment
> is strictly forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information
> therein. If you have received this message in error please notify the
> sender immediately and delete the message.
>
> With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
> issues again about  theexploitation of our natural resources to a
> bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
> attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
> McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
> did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
> conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
> Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
> now)
>
> Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
> with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
> sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
> simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
> have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> http://www.bennettjones.com/people_item.aspx?person=821
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/
>
> http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf
>
> http://www.potashcorp.com/media/POT_2010_Letter_from_BHP_Billiton's_Chairman.pdf
>
> http://www.bhpbilliton.com/bb/aboutUs/companyOverview/ourBoard.jsp
>
> http://www.potashcorp.com/about/management_board/senior_management/podwika/
>
> http://www.corridor.ca/media/2010-press-releases/20100510.html
>
> http://www.bennettjones.com/people_item.aspx?person=712&name=foster&pg=&office=
>
> http://www.robmooremp.com/081908.htm
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/05/07/nb-penobsquis-water-lawyer-1056.html?ref=rss
>
> http://www.newbrunswickbeacon.ca/2010/03/risk-and-reward-when-rural-life-meets-economic-development/5666
>
> http://www.vancouverislandwaterwatchcoalition.ca/go456a/FRACKING
>
> http://www.elements.nb.ca/theme/ecojustice/JeanPaul/JeanPaul.htm
>
> http://www.nbmediacoop.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1133:penobsquis-residents-seek-compensation-for-damages&catid=82:environment&Itemid=197
>
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Subject: Attn Rob Moir I have read some of your work perhaps you
> should read something from years ago
> To: fundyroyalndp@gmail.com, Moore.R@parl.gc.ca,
> jacques_poitras@cbc.ca, cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca,
> tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca,
> Layton.J@parl.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, bbixby@burnslev.com,
> david@lutz.nb.ca, drosenblatt@burnslev.com,
> markwright4mp@politician.com
> Cc: fosterd@bennettjones.ca, corporate.relations@potashcorp.com,
> lgold.blcanada@b-l.com, fbinhct@leo.gov
> Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 9:46 PM
>
>
> First things first meet Lenny Gold, Dougy Foster and Joey Podwika. You
> can be certain that these wicked bastards know exactly who I am and
> are no doubt quite nervous that the Feds have not figured out a way to
> shut me up yet.
>
> Everybody knows that far away corporate lawyers such as these three
> stooges have been making the big score off us dumb Maritimers forever
> and a day and have been laughing their nasty arses off at us all the
> way to their buddies' bank. They appear to fear only one Maritimer and
> that is yours truly. Ask them if I am liar or not as I speak of the
> Bank Fraud Tax Fraud, Securities Fraud and Murders that you are afraid
> to talk about. Shawn Graham should know everthing he partied hardy
> with my G.A.L. Brian Bixby's Law firm in Beantown one year ago and I
> effected an introduction with the lawyer Leonard Gold because that
> very dumb Maritimer came to Beantown to talk to many evil Yankees ten
> times more worldly wise than Shawny Baby ever could be.
>
> Your laments Bobby Baby about lost water really rot my socks. You
> should know I covered that base years ago and everybody just ran away
> scared. Ask the Minister Larry Cannon why I laughed when he gave out a
> little federal gold just before Bernie Lord had the writ dropped in
> 2006 in the provincial election. It was very telling thing just like
> all the money being passed out right now.
>
> I noticed that you and all you NDP pals ignored the fact that I ran in
> that election as well as the Fed one and the one in Nova Scotia
> earlier that year. Yea I saw you and Pat Hannratty ducking  out the
> back just as I walked in that night in January of 2006. Why you didn't
> answer my friend Jack's letter either spoke to your personal integrity
> EH? If Rob Moore or none of the Conservatives on the Hill faraway
> won't talk to you just ask the lawyer Smith in Saint John the boss of
> the NB Securities Commission if I didn't raise a little Hell while he
> filled the other lawyer Nicholson's boots in PUB just long enough to
> cram the pipeline through to the trunk while the election was on and I
> was intervening in the pipeline matter in Saint John at the same time
> and Norm Miller and his lawyer ignored my arguments but read my words
> about it all on the web all the same.
>
> Better yet why not have some fun and ask the very strange PCS dudes in
> Sussex why they had my photo posted at the gate and the RCMP were to
> be called if I made an appearance there while I was running against
> your pal John Carty in Fat Fred City. Your clue to their malice is UBS
> and another lawyer named Dave Aufhauser whom I have been battling with
> for six long years. Do you even know who he is? Rest assured Lenny,
> Dougy and Joey do.
>
> Whereas you trust the words of the very malicious CBC or the Irvings
> and not mine read what the CBC were saying one year ago. Then read
> what the local Irving rag wrote about me four god damned years ago.
>
> For the record Bobby Baby I still remember you commenting on the
> trouble I was having with the Feds so that my minor son could return
> to the USA to comfort his mother and how little milk of human kindness
> you have had in your greedy little PHD soul ever since. Can ya tell I
> don't like you not even a little bit?
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2007/03/27/nb-mccullyfield.html
>
> Read on Teacher pay particular attention to my words about oil and
> gas.and crossborder public corruption. For the record I have always
> considered the water in Penobsquis a federal matter concerning the NEB
> and if they ignore me then maybe i would take it up in the Federal
> Court. It won't go anywhere though if Maritimers don't finally wise up
> start listening to me.
>
>
> FYI I have started to upload some of my ducument for the public to
> view. They can be found here and there will be a great deal more to
> follow as my time allows.
>
> http://www.scribd.com/people/view/554842-david-raymond-amos
>
> This Maritimer Danny Boy Fitzgeral who is studying for his PHD in
> Holland made several interesting blogs about me as he attacked my
> integrity. In the end methinks I may have turned him my way and in
> return I left his school out of my battles.
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/3rd-part-political-runs-in-maritimes.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-1b.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-2.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-3.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/canadian-action-party-cap-qsls.html
>
> Perhaps you should study them sometime EH Teacher? You should take
> careful notice that college degrees mean less than nothing to me. Just
> like any true Maritimer it is fighters, foresters, farmers and
> fishermen I admire not rich snots that do not understand the meaning
> of hard work. That said it does appear that Danny Boy does work very
> hard on his blog. I do know how long such things take and his blog is
> a fine and as fancy as anyones and constantly updated. I particularly
> apprciate the fact he leaves his comments open without moderation.
>
> Also for the record I signed your Fake Left friends' petition.
>
> Penobsquis Deserves Safe Water
>
> 98  Fran Oliver There is no excuse for this situation. A responsible
> provincial government and a responsible corporation would never allow
> local families to bear the financial and social burden, likely
> resulting from a provincial mining operation, while government and
> corporation choke on huge profits.
>
> 99  David Raymond Amos Ask Garth Moore why my picture is posted at the
> gate while I ran for Parliament will ya?
>
> My friends tell me tha the Photo the PCS dudes had posted as some sort
> of criminal the RCMP were watching out for was clipped from the pages
> of the Kings County Record that contained the following articles.
>
> The following email and two deleted blogs can be found within one
> pigheaded Maritimer's blog about government injustice. After the
> Irvings had his pal's Chucky Leblanc' former blog wiped out I had to
> tease and torture him into doing the right thing and allowing just one
> of my comments to stand. Some much for Freedom on Speech on the
> Internet when even Maritime bloggers are unethical  EH teacher?
>
> For the record only the Gypsy and Danny Boy fitzgerald have allowed
> all of my comments to stand the test of time and ethics. Thus far so I
> must give credit where credit is due. Your chosen profession such as
> it is should at least understand that EH Mr. Moir?
>
> Here is my last post in the blogs tonight. Obviously I do not pretend
> to be somebody I am not. N'est Pas?
>
> http://gypsy-blog.blogspot.com/2008/04/from-student-to-city-councillor.html
>
> Veritas Vincit
>
> David Raymond Amos
>
> The following email can be found here
> http://govinjustice.blogspot.com/2008/04/tjburke-letter-to-me.html
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "McKnight, Gisele"McKnight.Gisele@kingscorecord.com
> To: lcampenella@ledger.com
> Cc:motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:53 PM
> Subject: David Amos
>
> Hello Lisa,
>
> David Amos asked me to contact you. I met him last June after he became
> an independent (not representing any political party) candidate in our
> federal
> election that was held June 28. He was a candidate in our constituency of
> Fundy (now called  Fundy-Royal).
>
> I wrote a profile story about him, as I did all other candidates. That
> story appeared in the Kings County Record June 22. A second story, written
> by one of my reporters, appeared on the same date, which was a report on
> the candidates' debate held June 18.
>
> As I recall David Amos came last of four candidates in the election.
> The winner got 14,997 votes, while Amos got 358.
>
> I have attached the two stories that appeared, as well as a photo
> taken by reporter Erin Hatfield during the debate. I couldn't find the
> photo
> that ran, but this one is very similar.
>
>
> A1-debate A1-amos,David for MP 24.doc debate 2.JPG
>
> Gisele McKnight editor
> Kings County Record
> Sussex, New Brunswick
> Canada
> 506-433-1070
>
>
> Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
>
> By Erin Hatfield
>
> "If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your
> world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
>
> The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at
> the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to
> watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if
> unofficial, theme song for the debate.
>
> The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as
> they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn.
> Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue
> chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent
> left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty,
> mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards
> the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.
>
> The debate was moderated by Leo Melanson of CJCW Radio and was
> organized by the Sussex Valley Jaycees. Candidates wereasked a barrage
> of questions bypanelists Gisele McKnight of the Kings County Record
> and Lisa Spencer of CJCW.
>
> Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates
> responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the
> exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices.
> Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each
> other on their answers and criticizing eachothers' party leaders.
> Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the
> questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of comic
> relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in
> response to the question of thenational gun registry. "Nobody's
> getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."
>
> Herron, a Progressive Conservative MP turned Liberal, veered from his
> party'splatform with regard to gun control. "It was ill advised but
> well intentioned," Herron said. "No matter what side of the house I am
> on, I'm voting against it." Pat Hanratty agreed there were better
> places for the gun registry dollars to be spent.Recreational hunters
> shouldn't have been penalized by this gun registry," he said.
>
> The gun registry issues provoked the tempers of Herron and Moore. At
> one point Herron got out of his seat and threw a piece of paper in
> front of Moore. "Read that," Herron said to Moore, referring to the
> voting record of Conservative Party leader Steven Harper. According to
> Herron, Harper voted in favour of the registry on the first and second
> readings of the bill in 1995. "He voted against it when it counted, at
> final count," Moore said. "We needa government with courage to
> register sex offenders rather than register the property of law
> abiding citizens."
>
> The crowd was vocal throughout the evening, with white haired men and
> women heckling from the Conservative side. "Shut up John," one woman
> yelled. "How can you talk about selling out?" a man yelled whenHerron
> spoke about his fear that the Conservatives are selling farmers out.
>
> Although the Liberal side was less vocal, Kings East MLA Leroy
> Armstrong weighed in at one point. "You're out of touch," Armstrong
> yelled to Moore from the crowd when the debate turned to the cost of
> post-secondary education. Later in the evening Amos challenged
> Armstrong to a public debate of their own. "Talk is cheap. Any time,
> anyplace," Armstrong responded.
>
> As the crowd made its way out of the building following the debate,
> candidates worked the room. They shook hands with well-wishers and
> fielded questions from spectators-all part of the decision-making
> process for the June 28 vote.
>
> Cutline – David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his
> favourite possessions—motorcycles.
>
> McKnight/KCR
>
> The Unconventional Candidate
>
> David Amos Isn't Campaigning For Your Vote, But….
>
> By Gisele McKnight
>
> FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his
> wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone
> that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
>
> Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.
>
> The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife
> and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from
> running for office in Canada.
>
> One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail
> to meet Elections Canada requirements.
>
> When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his
> favourite place to do so—Fundy.
>
> Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his
> dissatisfaction with politicians.
>
> "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he
> said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
>
> The journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in
> 1987. He woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he
> needed to change his life.
>
> "I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that
> sometimes in midlife."
>
> So Amos, who'd lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners
> motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952
> Panhead motorcycle.
>
> "Annie and I rode around for awhile (three years, to be exact)
> experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said. "This is how you
> renew your faith in mankind – you help anyone you can, you never ask
> for anything, but you take what they offer."
>
> For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs
> and conversation all over North America.
>
> Since he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son
> and a daughter and become a house-husband – Mr. Mom, as he calls
> himself.
>
> He also describes himself in far more colourful terms—a motorcyclist
> rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed
> individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a proud
> Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."
>
> Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.
>
> "But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said.
> "It's alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"
>
> Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
>
> "I didn't appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door
> interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can
> call me. I'm not going to drive my opinions down their throats."
>
> And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.
>
> "I won't take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It's
> not about money. It goes against what I'm fighting about."
>
> What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood,
> the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to
> name a few.
>
> "The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing,
> farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm
> death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it
> (NAFTA) out the window.
>
> NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an
> easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
>
> Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
>
> "There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me,
> especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right.
> Don't necessarily vote for me, but vote."
>
> Although…if you're going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have
> your X by his name.
>
> "I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and
> say, 'what the hell.'"
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:38:35 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
> of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
> you people buy much stock in their stock eh?
> To: henrybanta <henrybanta@aol.com>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:47:02 -0300
> Subject: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack of
> ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before you
> people buy much stock in their stock eh?
> To: Scott.Espenshade@bhpbilliton.com, ir <ir@potashcorp.com>
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/
>
> http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:47:02 -0300
> Subject: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack of
> ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before you
> people buy much stock in their stock eh?
> To: Scott.Espenshade@bhpbilliton.com, ir <ir@potashcorp.com>
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/
>
> http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf
>
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "STAINTON-JAMES, Angela"<STAINTONJAMESA@parliament.uk>
>> > To: "'David Amos'"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:50 AM
>> > Subject: RE: So what is the Conservative MP Hugh Robertson gonna do
>> > about people in his riding torturing people on the Internet? In Canada
>> > such slander is a crime EH Vic Toews?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear David
>> >
>> > Thank you for your e-mail addressed to Hugh Robertson. Your e-mail
>> > has come through to Hugh's constituency office when, clearly, you need
>> > his Department. Sadly, I do not have an e-mail address for him but
>> > the telephone number of the Department of Media Culture and Sport is
>> > 020 7211 6200 and they should be able to provide you with the
>> > necessary information.
>> >
>> > Thank you for writing to Hugh and if you have any problem at all
>> > please do not hesitate to come back to me.
>> >
>> > Best wishes
>> > Angela Stainton-James
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: 29 May 2010 23:24
>> > To: STAINTON-JAMES, Angela; toewsv1
>> > Cc: RHar100@aol.com; Gilles. Blinn; gilles.moreau; roger. gillies;
>> > rogerduguay21
>> > Subject: So what is the Conservative MP Hugh Robertson gonna do about
>> > people in his riding torturing people on the Internet? In Canada such
>> > slander is a crime EH Vic Toews?
>> >
>> > Need I say that "Satan's Crack Dealer" and his many evil little fans
>> > atacked the wrong pissed of Maritimer in Youtube? Scroll down read
>> > real slow and then call your lawyer or the cops Mr Roberson
>> >
>> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6074892060
>> > Richard Coughlan
>> > Faversham, United Kingdom
>> > email RHar100@aol.com
>> > Website:http://youtube.com/user/coughlan666
>> > Phone 07935333407
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:46:20 -0300
>> > Subject: Mr. Finkelstein I just discovered you and your concerns today
>> > perhaps we should have a long talk ASAP? i an be reached at 506 485
>> > 2578 for a couple of days
>> > To: normfinkelstein@gmail.com
>> >
>> > Need I say that I am hounoured that this evil person hates me/
>> >
>> > http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/05/americans-have-never-guarantteed.html
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:23:46 -0300
>> > Subject: Lets see if the Russians will understand Fwd: We just talked
>> > this what I was trying to relate to the President of Mexico while he
>> > was in Canada
>> > To: info@rusembassy.ca
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:19:51 -0300
>> > Subject: We just talked this what I was trying to relate to the
>> > President of Mexico while he was in Canada
>> > To: atperez_lee <atperez_lee@yahoo.com.mx>
>> >
>> > The easiest way to check something about my concerns quickly is to go
>> > to the US Senate Banking Committee hearing on November 18th and 20th
>> > 2003 and notice the webcasts and transcripts of a very important
>> > hearing about the financial industry are missing. Please notice the
>> > crook Eliot Spitzer testified on the 20th
>> >
>> > http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.List&Month=0&Year=2003
>> >
>> >
>> > http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=102e41a1-f540-4ce5-a701-b6d09b7606b1
>> >
>> > http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
>> >
>> > Now look for Spitzer's answer to me on page 13 of this pdf file
>> >
>> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
>> >
>> > The easy answer to your next question is YES I am the the guy nobody
>> > will talk about. so perhaps you should for the benefit of your
>> > concerns and pocketbook. (Google David Amos and Wendy Olsen to see how
>> > far down the rabbbit hole I can take anyone)
>> >
>> > I explained some of it a year ago on many talk shows and nobody cared.
>> > Listen here if you wish then go figure whom you should trust.
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJGDSlnyKro
>> >
>> > If nothing else have laugh at my espense and Google this expression
>> > "Nobody will say my name"
>> >
>> >
>> > Here is just one of the many reasons why
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:21 AM
>> > To: David Amos; USANYS-MADOFF; Litt, Marc (USANYS)
>> > Cc: webo; vasilescua@sec.gov; friedmani@sec.gov; krishnamurthyp@sec.gov
>> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
>> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> >
>> > Thank you for your response.
>> >
>> > Wendy Olsen
>> > Victim Witness Coordinator
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:48 AM
>> > To: USANYS-MADOFF; Olsen, Wendy (USANYS); Litt, Marc (USANYS)
>> > Cc: webo; vasilescua@sec.gov; friedmani@sec.gov; krishnamurthyp@sec.gov
>> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
>> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> >
>> > Ms Olsen
>> >
>> > Thank you for keeping me informed.
>> >
>> > Yes unseal all my emails with all their attachments immediately and
>> > make certain that the US Attorny's office finally practices full
>> > disclosurement as to who I am and what my concerns are as per the Rule
>> > of Law within a purported democracy.
>> >
>> > As you folks all well know I am not a shy man and I have done nothing
>> > wrong. It appears to me that bureacratic people only use the right to
>> > privacy of others when it suits their malicious ends in order to
>> > protect their butts from impreacment, litigation and prosecution.
>> >
>> > The people in the US Attorney's Office and the SEC etc are very well
>> > aware that I protested immediately to everyone I could think of when
>> > the instant I knew that my correspondences went under seal and Madoff
>> > pled guilty so quickly and yet another cover up involing my actions
>> > was under full steam. Everybody knows that.the US Government has been
>> > trying to keep my concerns about the rampant public corruption a
>> > secret for well over seven long years. However now that a lot of
>> > poeple and their countries in general are losing a lot of money people
>> > are beginning to remember just exactly who I am and what i did
>> > beginning over seven years ago..
>> >
>> > Veritas Vincit
>> > David Raymond Amos
>> > 506 756 8687
>> >
>> > P.S. For the record Obviously I pounced on these Yankee bastards as
>> > soon as the newsrag in Boston published this article on the web last
>> > night.
>> >
>> > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1162354&f
>> > ormat=&page=2&listingType=biz#articleFull
>> >
>> > Notice that Nester just like everyone else would not say my name? It
>> > is because my issues surrounding both Madoff and are NOT marketing
>> > timing They are as you all well know money laundering, fraud,
>> > forgery, perjury, securites fraud, tax fraud, Bank fraud, illegal
>> > wiretappping and Murder amongst other very serious crimes.
>> >
>> > "SEC spokesman John Nester dismissed similarities between Markopolos
>> > and Scannell's cases as "not a valid comparison."
>> >
>> > He said the SEC determined the market-timing by Putnam clients that
>> > Scannell reported didn't violate federal law. Nester said the SEC only
>> > acted after another tipster alleged undisclosed market-timing by some
>> > Putnam insiders.
>> >
>> > Scannell, now a crusader for SEC reforms, isn't surprised the agency
>> > is in hot water again.
>> >
>> > Noting that several top SEC officials have gone on to high-paying
>> > private-sector jobs, he believes hopes for future employment impact
>> > investigations. "It's a distinct disadvantage to make waves before you
>> > enter the private sector," Scannell said."
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 3/30/09, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S
>> > OFFICE
>> > SDNY
>> > To: NesterJ@sec.gov, letterstoeditor@bostonherald.com, "oig"
>> > <oig@sec.gov>, Thunter@tribune.com, david@davidmyles.com,
>> > ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca, "Dan Fitzgerald"<danf@danf.net>
>> > Cc: dsheehan@bakerlaw.com, dspelfogel@bakerlaw.com,
>> > mc@whistleblowers.org, gkachroo@mccarter.com,
>> > david.straube@accenture.com, gurdip.s.sahota@accenture.com,
>> > benjamin_mcmurray@ao.uscourts.gov, bob_burke@ao.uscourts.gov
>> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 10:00 PM
>> >
>> > Need I say BULLSHIT?
>> >
>> > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1162354&f
>> > ormat=&page=2&listingType=biz#articleFull
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:03:13 -0300
>> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S
>> > OFFICE
>> > SDNY
>> > To: Russ.Stanton@latimes.com, meredith.goodman@latimes.com,
>> > ninkster@navigantconsulting.com, dgolub@sgtlaw.com
>> > Cc: firstselectmanffld@town.fairfield.ct.us,
>> > editor@whatsupfairfield.com, info@csiworld.org, jacques_poitras
>> > <jacques_poitras@cbc.ca>
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:40:55 -0300
>> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
>> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> > To: gmacnamara@town.fairfield.ct.us, MartiK1 <MartiK1@parl.gc.ca>,
>> > "Paul. Harpelle"<Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>, Jason Keenan
>> > <jason.keenan@icann.org>, Kandalaw <Kandalaw@mindspring.com>
>> > Cc: info@grahamdefense.org, fbinhct@leo.gov
>> >
>> > From: "Peck,Dave"<DPeck@town.fairfield.ct.us>
>> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:32:32 -0400
>> > Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT
>> > INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > I will be unavailable until 4/1/09.
>> >
>> > Deputy Chief MacNamara will be in charge while I am away.
>> >
>> > He can be reached at 254-4831 or email him at
>> > gmacnamara@town.fairfield.ct.us
>> >
>> > I will not be checking emails or cell phone messages.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> > Chief Dave Peck
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:32:18 -0300
>> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
>> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> > To: dpeck@town.fairfield.ct.us, edit@ctpost.com, bresee@courant.com
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:19:35 -0300
>> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
>> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> > To: dtnews@telegraph.co.uk
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: USANYS-MADOFF
>> > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:06 PM
>> > To: DAVID.RAYMOND.AMOS@GMAIL.COM
>> > Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
>> >
>> > In United States v. Bernard L. Madoff, 09 Cr. 213 (DC), the Court
>> > received a request from NBC and ABC to unseal all correspondence from
>> > victims that has been submitted in connection with the case.
>> >
>> > This includes your email to the Government.
>> >
>> > If the correspondence from victims is unsealed, the victim's personal
>> > identifying information including name, address, telephone number and
>> > email address (to the extent it was included on the correspondence)
>> > will become public. The Government must submit a response to the
>> > request by NBC and ABC by Tuesday, March 31, 2009. Please let us know
>> > whether you consent to the full disclosure of your correspondence, or
>> > whether you wish to have your correspondence remain sealed for privacy
>> > or other reasons.
>> > If you wish to have your correspondence remain sealed, please let us
>> > know the reason. We will defend your privacy to the extent that we
>> > can. Thank you.
>> >
>> > I looks like the US attorney in New York finally has to unseal my
>> > emails that you dudes have been sitting on for quite some time for no
>> > reason I will ever understand other than you are just a bunch of
>> > chickenshits.
>> >
>> > I know NBC, ABC, your blogger buddies or any other media wacko will
>> > never say my name but the pissed off folks that lost a lot of money
>> > with Bernie Baby just may ask how the hell I am EH?
>> >
>> > Veritas Vincit
>> > David Raymond Amos
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:48:50 -0300
>> > Subject: Fwd: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
>> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
>> > To: Marc.Litt@usdoj.gov
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:29:42 -0300
>> > Subject: Fwd: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
>> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
>> > To: PChavkin@mintz.com
>> > Cc: webo <webo@xplornet.com>
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: "Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)"<Wendy.Olsen@usdoj.gov>
>> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:08:04 -0400
>> > Subject: RE: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
>> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
>> > To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> >
>> > On March 10, 2009, the Honorable Denny Chin provided the following
>> > guidance for victims who wish to be heard at the plea proceeding on
>> > March 12, 2009 at 10:00 a.m.:
>> >
>> > Judge Chin stated that there are two issues that the Court will
>> > consider at the hearing: (1) whether to accept a guilty plea from the
>> > defendant to the eleven-count Criminal Information filed by the
>> > Government, which provides for a maximum sentence of 150 years'
>> > imprisonment; and (2) whether the defendant should be remanded or
>> > released on conditions of bail, if the Court accepts a guilty plea.
>> > Judge Chin also stated that, at the hearing on March 12, 2009, he will
>> > conduct a plea allocution of the defendant and then will announce
>> > whether the Court intends to accept the plea. At that time, the Court
>> > will solicit speakers who disagree with the Court's intended ruling.
>> >
>> > Assuming the defendant pleads guilty and his plea is accepted by
>> > the Court, the Court intends to allow the Government and defense
>> > counsel to speak on the issue of bail. The Court will then announce
>> > its intended ruling on that issue. The Court will then invite
>> > individuals who disagree with the proposed ruling on bail to be heard.
>> >
>> > The Court noted that there will be opportunity for victims to be
>> > heard in the future on the subjects of sentencing, forfeiture and
>> > restitution in advance of any sentencing of the defendant. The Court
>> > also noted that it is not appropriate for victims who wish to speak
>> > concerning sentencing issues to be heard at the March 12, 2009
>> > proceeding.
>> >
>> > A link to the a transcript of the March 10, 2009 Court hearing can
>> > be found on the website of the United States Attorney's Office for the
>> > Southern District of New York:
>> >
>> > http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nys
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
>> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:56 AM
>> > To: usanys.madoff@usdoj.gov
>> > Subject: FW: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
>> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 12:58 PM
>> > To: horwitzd@dicksteinshapiro.com; Nardoza, Robert (USANYE);
>> > USAMA-Media (USAMA); Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
>> > Cc: oig
>> > Subject: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and KPMG
>> > etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
>> >
>> > horwitzd@dicksteinshapiro.com
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: "Sartory, Thomas J."<TSartory@goulstonstorrs.com>
>> > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:41:20 -0500
>> > Subject: RE: I did talk the lawyers Golub and Flumenbaum tried to
>> > discuss Bernie Madoff and KPMG etc before sending these emails
>> > To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Mr. Amos,
>> >
>> > I am General Counsel at Goulston & Storrs. Your email below to
>> > Messers. Rosensweig and Reisch has been forwarded to me for response.
>> > While it's not clear what type of assistance, if any, you seek from
>> > Goulston % Storrs, please be advised that we are not in a position to
>> > help you. Please do not send further communications to any of our
>> > attorneys. We will not be able to respond, and your communications
>> > will not be protected by the attorney-client privilege.
>> >
>> > We wish you well in the pursuit of your concerns.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > Thomas J. Sartory
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Amos [mailto:
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:18 PM
>> > To: Rosensweig, Richard J.; info@LAtaxlawyers.com; Reisch, Alan M.;
>> > reed@hbsslaw.com
>> > Subject: Fwd: I did talk the lawyers Golub and Flumenbaum tried to
>> > discuss Bernie Madoff and KPMG etc before sending these emails
>> >
>> > Perhaps somebody should call me back now. EH?
>> >
>> > UK Parliament Disclaimer:
>> > This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have
>> > received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your
>> > system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted.
>> > This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted
>> > for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "R Hide (MIN)"<R.Hide@ministers.govt.nz>
>> > To: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:33 PM
>> > Subject: RE: BENJAMIN'S EASTON'S PROTEST NOTICE ABOUT INJUSTICES I
>> > have an idea for you Ben
>> >
>> >
>> > On behalf of the Hon Rodney Hide, Minister of Local Government, I wish
>> > to acknowledge receipt of your email.
>> >
>> > Your correspondence has been placed in front of the Minister.
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > Sandy Grove
>> > Ministerial Private Secretary (Advisory)
>> > Office of Hon Rodney Hide
>> > WELLINGTON
>> > Ph 04 817 6630
>> > Email: sandy.grove@parliament.govt.nz
>> >
>> > The content of this email, including any attachment, is intended for
>> > the named recipient only and is not necessarily the official view or
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>> > liability is accepted for any loss or damage arising from the use of
>> > this email or its attachments.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 29 September 2009 3:05 pm
>> > To: T Ryall (MIN); Amy Adams; Jim Anderton;
>> > anderton.wigram@xtra.co.nz; Jacinda Ardern; Shane Ardern; Chris
>> > Auchinvole; Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi; Rick Barker; Carol Beaumont; David
>> > Bennett; Loren Bolton (MIN); Jackie Blue; Chester Borrows;
>> > chester.wanganui@xtra.co.nz; chester.hawera@xtra.co.nz; John Boscawen;
>> > Sue Bradford; socialjustice@greens.org.nz; Simon Bridges; Natalie
>> > Roberts (MIN); Brendon Burns; bb@brendonburns.co.nz; Chris Carter;
>> > labourwest@xtra.co.nz; D Carter (MIN); cartermp@xtra.co.nz; J Carter
>> > (MIN); northlandelectorate@xtra.co.nz; Steve Chadwick; Charles
>> > Chauvel; Ashraf Choudhary; J Coleman (MIN); J Collins (MIN);
>> > office@judithcollins.co.nz; Clayton Cosgrove;
>> > claytoncosgrovekaiapoi@xtra.co.nz; David Cunliffe;
>> > dcunliffe@xtra.co.nz; Clare Curran; lianne.dalziel@parliament.govt.nz;
>> > Kelvin Davis; Jacqui Dean; Catherine Delahunty; Roger Douglas; P Dunne
>> > (MIN); electjville@xtra.co.nz; Ruth Dyson; ruth.dyson@xtra.co.nz; B
>> > English (MIN); elecgor@esi.co.nz; Darien Fenton;
>> > office@labournorth.org.nz; C Finlayson (MIN); Jeanette Fitzsimons; Te
>> > Ururoa Flavell; Craig Foss; craigfoss@backingthebay.co.nz; David
>> > Garrett; Aaron Gilmore; p.goff@parliament.govt.nz; phil@goff.org.nz;
>> > Jo Goodhew; sandra.goudie@national.org.nz; Kennedy Graham; Hon. Tim
>> > Groser (MIN); nathan.guy@national.org.nz;
>> > national.horowhenua@xtra.co.nz; national.kapiti@xtra.co.nz; Kevin
>> > Hague; Hone Harawira; Terry Ututaonga; George Hawkins; John Hayes; P
>> > Heatley (MIN); Tau Henare; tau.henaremp@xtra.co.nz; R Hide (MIN);
>> > rodney@epsom.org.nz; Paul Hutchison; hunua.electorate@xtra.co.nz;
>> > Shane Jones; shanejonesmp@xtra.co.nz; S Joyce (MIN); Rahui Katene;
>> > Nikki Kaye; Sue Kedgley; J Key (MIN); genelle@johnkey.mp.net.nz;
>> > A.King@parliament.govt.nz; kilbirnieeo@xtra.co.nz;
>> > colin.kingmp@xtra.co.nz; winnie.laban@parliament.govt.nz;
>> > mana.electorate@xtra.co.nz; Melissa Lee;
>> > Iain.leesgalloway@parliament.govt.nz; Keith Locke;
>> > greenmps.auckland@greens.org.nz;
>> > peseta.sam.lotuiiga@parliament.govt.nz; Tim Macindoe;
>> > moana.mackey@labour.org.nz; Nanaia Mahuta;
>> > tainuielectorate@xtra.co.nz; Trevor Mallard; WOAoffice@xtra.co.nz;
>> > petone.eo@clear.net.nz; W Mapp (MIN); Todd McClay; M McCully (MIN);
>> > murray.mccully@xtra.co.nz; Sue Moroney; waikatohub.mps@xtra.co.nz;
>> > Stuart Nash; Russel Norman; Hekia Parata; David Parker; Allan Peachey;
>> > Ritchie Wards; lynne.pillaymp@xtra.co.nz; S Power (MIN);
>> > simonpower.feilding@xtra.co.nz; simonpower.marton@xtra.co.nz; Rajen
>> > Prasad; Paul Quinn; angela.bray@parliament.govt.nz;
>> > jen.toogood@parliament.govt.nz; Chris Hipkins;
>> > marlene.ditchfield@xtra.co.nz; janette.granville@xtra.co.nz; Pete
>> > Hodgson; pete@petehodgson.co.nz; Parekura Horomia;
>> > ikaroa.gis@xtra.co.nz; ikaroa.hstgs@xtra.co.nz; Darren Hughes; Raymond
>> > Huo; office@grantrobertson.co.nz; Ross Robertson;
>> > rae.waterhouse@xtra.co.nz; michael.clatworthy@xtra.co.nz; Eric Roy; H
>> > Roy (MIN); Heather Henderson; Pita Sharples (MIN); Sua William Sio;
>> > Trish Wanden; mp.rodney.warkworth@xtra.co.nz; N Smith (MIN);
>> > nick@nick4nelson.co.nz; Maryan Street; Lindsay Tisch;
>> > tolleywhk@xtra.co.nz; tolleygis@xtra.co.nz;
>> > chris.tremain@national.org.nz; napier.electorate@airnet.net.nz;
>> > Metiria Turei; greenmps.dunedin@greens.org.nz; T Turia (MIN);
>> > Tari.Turia@xtra.co.nz; Philip Twyford; Louise Upston; Nicky Wagner; K
>> > Wilkinson (MIN); waimakariri@xtra.co.nz; M Williamson (MIN); Michael
>> > Woodhouse; blueandgold@parliament.govt.nz; P Wong (MIN);
>> > pansy.wong@xtra.co.nz; ahan.young@parliament.govt.nz;
>> > rosslynn@hrc.co.nz; sylviab@hrc.co.nz; michaelW@hrc.co.nz;
>> > phillippa.smith@oag.govt.nz; Mark.Holman@ssc.govt.nz;
>> > mark.thornton@justice.govt.nz; boris.vanbeusekom@justice.govt.nz;
>> > tinz@paradise.net.nz; >; emma.miles@police.govt.nz;
>> > John.Rivers@police.govt.nz; Mike.Webb@police.govt.nz;
>> > nurses@nzno.org.nz; gay@pha.org.nz; qsolutionsrising@gmail.com;
>> > easy@island.net; jardim.stratton@gmail.com;
>> > christinejhansen@gmail.com; no_to_nwo@yahoo.co.uk;
>> > johan.niklasson@evolution-production.com; lunalas@cox.net;
>> > saxon1hero@yahoo.co.uk; journalist@bellsouth.net;
>> > irenew.politico@gmail.com; daniel.solis@seznam.cz;
>> > vickytoxotis@hotmail.com; wef339@mail.com; katcre22@yahoo.com;
>> > scott@tkgtech.com; amandablake@blueyonder.co.uk;
>> > who.flu.2009@gmail.com; jazon@ymail.com; sineadcasper@live.ie;
>> > acpscotland@hotmail.co.uk; p.duffy93@ntlworld.com;
>> > tua46054@temple.edu; ciaranmcloone@ooglemail.com;
>> > marek_p2000@yahoo.com; black2000at@hotmail.com;
>> > madame_karnak@yahoo.com; sracine@gmail.com;
>> > annikatornlind@hotmail.com; manonf6@yahoo.com; matt@mattengelman.com;
>> > grantlear@hotmail.com; helix7@hotmail.com; editor@uncensored.co.nz;
>> > melocacau@gmail.com; steve.gosschalk@gmail.com;
>> > tidalelectric@gmail.com; vapi.kupenga@xtra.co.nz;
>> > eastwood.vincent@gmail.com; sichel@nsw.chariot.net.au;
>> > mlm@archaeoskymatrix.com
>> > Cc: laos_newzealand@yahoo.co.nz; jane burgermeister
>> > Subject: RE: BENJAMIN'S EASTON'S PROTEST NOTICE ABOUT INJUSTICES I
>> > have an idea for you Ben
>> >
>> > From: National Kapiti Electorate Office <national.kapiti@xtra.co.nz>
>> > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:14:19 +1300
>> > Subject: RE: NZ HEALTH MINISTER TONY RYALL - MS PENNY DO YOU READ
>> > EMAILS AS WELL AS WRITE THEM?
>> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > Dear Mr Amos
>> > Thank you for copying Nathan in with your email to NZ Health Minister
>> > Tony
>> > Ryall. This has been passed on to Nathan for his information.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Heather
>> >
>> > Heather Shaw| Electorate Agent for Hon Nathan Guy MP for Otaki
>> > P: +64 4 298 2906| F: +64 4 298 4845| Shop 3, 23 Amohia Street,
>> > Paraparaumu,
>> > Kapiti Coast 5032
>> > www.nathanguy.co.nz
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Heather
>> >
>> > Jan 3rd, 2004
>> >
>> > Mr. David R. Amos
>> > 153 Alvin Avenue
>> > Milton, MA U.S.A. 02186
>> >
>> > Dear Mr. Amos
>> >
>> > Thank you for your letter of November 19th, 2003, addressed to
>> > my predecessor,
>> > the Honourble Wayne Easter, regarding your safety. I apologize for the
>> > delay in responding.
>> >
>> > If you have any concerns about your personal safety, I can only
>> > suggest that you contact
>> > the police of local jurisdiction. In addition, any evidence of
>> > criminal activity should be brought
>> > to their attention since the police are in the best position to
>> > evaluate the information and take
>> > action as deemed appropriate.
>> >
>> > I trust that this information is satisfactory.
>> >
>> > Yours sincerely
>> > A. Anne McLellan”
>> >
>> > September 11th, 2004
>> >
>> > Dear Mr. Amos,
>> >
>> > On behalf of Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne
>> > Clarkson, I acknowledge receipt of two sets of documents and
>> > CD regarding corruption, one received from you directly, and the
>> > other forwarded to us by the Office of the Lieutenant Governor of
>> > New Brunswick.
>> >
>> > I regret to inform you that the Governor General cannot
>> > intervene in matters that are the responsibility of elected officials
>> > and courts of
>> > Justice of Canada. You already contacted the various provincial
>> > authorities
>> > regarding your concerns, and these were the appropriate steps to take.
>> >
>> > Yours sincerely.
>> >
>> > Renee Blanchet
>> > Office of the Secretary to the Governor General
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:12:44 -0300
>> Subject: Fwd: We just talked
>> To: scott.white@thecanadianpress.com, pagek@parl.gc.ca,
>> editor@policeprofessional.com
>> Cc: IgnatM <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>, LaytoJ <LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>,
>> jemma@policeprofessional.com, hiddenfromhistory
>> <hiddenfromhistory@yahoo.ca>
>>
>> Need i say i was not surprised when Askari and his boss Kevin Page
>> formerly of the PCO office did not respond to my phone calls or email
>> yesterday?
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:39:54 -0300
>> Subject: We just talked
>> To: askarm@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Mostafa Askari
>> Director General
>> Library of Parliament
>> Economic and Fiscal Analysis
>> Parliament Buildings
>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A9
>> Canada
>>
>> Telephone : 613-992-8045
>>
>>
http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2014/05/from-little-spark-may-burst-mighty-flame.html

>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:07:59 -0300
>> > Subject: You Cato dudes played dumb again about your missing blog and
>> > the documents I sent ya but lets see if one of your Directors is a
>> > dumb as you and the Feds pretend to be
>> > To: barnold@cato.org, kcouchman@cato.org, ckennedy@cato.org,
>> > amast@cato.org
>> > Cc: "rick. skinner"<rick.skinner@dhs.gov>, "Dean.Buzza"
>> > < Dean.Buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>> >
>> > The text of the blog of Tom Palmer's that Cato denies existed can be
>> > found within my blog and many other places as well as this email
>> >
>> > http://davidamos.blogspot.com/2005/03/ides-of-march.html
>> >
>> > March 24, 2005
>> > Crazy as a Loon, but Free
>> >
>> > Off to Iceland!
>> >
>> > Well, Bobby Fischer has his Icelandic passport. The U.S. government
>> > can now stop persecuting him for the crime of playing chess in
>> > Yugoslavia. Fischer may be out of his mind (tha'ts almost certain, if
>> > you consider his anti-Semitism and praise for the 9-11 attacks), but
>> > he's not out of his mind for choosing Iceland as his country of
>> > refuge. And the Icelanders, who may later regret having such an
>> > utterly crazy person wandering around in their country, have done the
>> > right thing by offering him refuge.
>> >
>> > NOTE: I seem to have attracted a stalker, who keeps posting strange
>> > messages on this site. Whatever.
>> >
>> > Posted by Tom Palmer at March 24, 2005 07:09 AM | TrackBack
>> >
>> > Comments
>> > Quite frankly I do not understand this. What does Iceland gain from
>> > this? Fischer himself stated that he would NEVER return to chess. So,
>> > it is unlikely that he will play for Iceland... and even though he
>> > did, it is not like he'd be back at the top.
>> > Now, he might want to teach his fellow Icelanders
>> > Fischerrandom...Fischerrandom is to chess what Estonian grammar is to
>> > linguistic ...And THAT sounds like a threat to me. NV
>> >
>> >
>> > Posted by: Nathalie I. Vogel at March 24, 2005 08:36 AM
>> > I doubt that Iceland has much to gain. (And I suspect that the
>> > inhabitants of Reykjavik may suffer from having an insufferable
>> > loudmouth crackpot wandering around.) But they did the right thing.
>> > The better thing would have been for the U.S. to drop its case against
>> > Mr. Fischer. I don't think you should lose your passport or suffer
>> > criminal prosecution for traveling someplace to play chess. I think
>> > that the position of the U.S. government (and of both Democratic and
>> > Republican administrations) is the harder one to understand.
>> >
>> > Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 24, 2005 08:47 AM
>> > TGP: "Fischer may be out of his mind (tha'ts almost certain, if you
>> > consider his anti-Semitism "
>> >
>> > I don't want to go all Szaszian on someone for what is most likely a
>> > casual comment, but suggesting someone is "out of his mind" simply
>> > because he is (labeled as) anti-Semitic seems overmuch. Immoral,
>> > perhaps...poorly informed, possibly...holding to views developed as a
>> > result of childhood associations, maybe...a confusion on either the
>> > part of Fischer or the person making the accusation of anti-Semitism
>> > with anti-Zionism, quite possible. But "out of his mind"?
>> >
>> > Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 24, 2005 11:17 AM
>> > Ross, Tom did refer to 'his' anti-Semitism; maybe it's not just that
>> > Fischer does not like Jews, but that he suffers from a particularly
>> > radical form of bigotry.
>> >
>> > I wouldn't know myself, but that was the inference I drew from Tom's
>> > comment.
>> >
>> > Posted by: Henri Hein at March 25, 2005 02:45 AM
>> > Then, Henri, he would be immoral, or bigoted, not "out of his mind".
>> > And he should consult an ethicist, not a travel agent or chiropracter
>> > to bring him back to his mind or better align it.
>> > Again, my point was merely that "out of his mind" implies one must be
>> > crazy or mentally ill to be anti-Semitic; I think that's a category
>> > error.
>> >
>> > Ross
>> >
>> > Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 25, 2005 06:54 PM
>> > Ross's points are well taken, but I do think that some term such as
>> > "crazy" (I'll stay away from "mentally ill") is useful in describing
>> > Mr. Fischer. (And even Thomas Szasz readily admits that there are
>> > "lots of crazy people" around; he just says that they're not sick.)
>> >
>> > The anti-Semitism that Mr. Fischer spouts is not of the "they wouldn't
>> > be welcome in our club" sort (bad as that is), but of the "Organized
>> > International Jewry is out to get me," sort. The former is an example
>> > of bad behavior, bad manners, immoral views, or the like. The latter
>> > sort of anti-Semitism is an obsession that seems in general to be
>> > immune to either moral appeal (since it's a claim about an alleged
>> > state of affairs, viz., that the Jews run everything and are out to
>> > get one) or to factual refutation (how do you argue someone out of
>> > such a...for want of a better word...crazy view?).
>> >
>> > Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 25, 2005 11:34 PM
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David Amos
>> > To: rjvattuone@aol.com
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:59 AM
>> > Subject: This is going to get interesting
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey Richard
>> >
>> > Thanks for calling me back the other day. Here is my number in Boston
>> > 617 698-6549 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 617 698-6549
>> > end_of_the_skype_highlighting. I will be hitting the road shortly
>> > and I will be sending out to you hard copy of what I am sending to
>> > Scott Daruty. However there is a great deal more you should know ASAP.
>> > I am involved against the biggest and baddest of them all and we all
>> > know they play for keeps. It is important that you know much and have
>> > evidence of it in order to protect yourself. I know they moniter my
>> > phone calls and I have know doubt that they listen to the Canadain
>> > Cell as well. The fact that you spoke to me honestly and openly puts
>> > you in jeopardy. If you had acted like most lawyers, the bastards
>> > would leave you alone. If you come to my aid, they will attack you.
>> > Trust me it has happened before and I will send proof of it in the
>> > following emails. Some contain the Tiffs I mentioned I am curious to
>> > see if they get through AOL system. I hack been blocked by them in the
>> > past. I have not heard from Barry Bachrach since just after he warned
>> > me that the FBI was about to pounce on me on Oct 1st. It seems they
>> > have him running scared. I must do my best to protect honest men..
>> >
>> > The following is what I just posted but it seems Bill Gates does not
>> > allow Tiff files in his sites so I will forward it to you to support
>> > what I said is true. Answer this email if and when you get it an I
>> > will send some others if you wish. However I think it would be better
>> > not to use AOL. As I said just get one in Yahoo or Hotmail they work
>> > better and are free.
>> >
>> > From: motomaniac in response to Message 1 Sent: 3/27/2005 9:21 AM
>> >
>> > In defense of Bobby Fischer I must say that he is just another man
>> > like me. He has his strengths and his weaknesses. Just like me. One
>> > particular forte of his, the amazing ability to play a game very well
>> > thrust him into the limelight for the whole wide world to study and
>> > examine his every move. More importantly I believe his fame caused him
>> > to become a pawn in the big big game. Although he had his right to
>> > privacy, the whole world dogged at his heels and critized his every
>> > action as a man. The Masters of War obviously tried use him to their
>> > advantage during the Cold War. He is not a stateman or a lawyer. He is
>> > simply a free thinking individual who has every right to speak his
>> > mind particularly after he has suffered through hell just because he
>> > plays chess so very well.
>> >
>> > I say judge not lest ye be judged and mind your own mouth about things
>> > you do not know all the details of. I am far more outspoken than Bobby
>> > ever was and yet you have never even heard of my name. It is because
>> > the corporate controlled media is not permited to do so. I am nobody
>> > with any special talent that had caused me to be thrown into public
>> > scrutiny before I was compelled to speak out as Bobby has done. I do
>> > not have to agree or disagree with his every word over the years to
>> > understand his meaning and his troubles. That said, in all honesty it
>> > would behoove us both if his lawyer would listen to me and employ
>> > Bobby's fame to expose the truth of all that we say.
>> >
>> > I am am not a perfect person and neither is Bobby. I do not know him
>> > nor do I judge him. Yet I do agree with with his standing in defense
>> > of his freedom. The Chessmaster has every right to spout off against
>> > the Masters of War because they have offended him greatly. It is for
>> > his attorney to weed out the truth and evidence of his convictions and
>> > present it in court in order to seek relief on his client's behalf. A
>> > jury of his peers will decide the truth of his matters not us bloggers
>> > without veiwing and hearing all the evidence. Forget what you may
>> > glean from the media. The information is controlled and slanted
>> > against him. Listen to what his lawyer says and what is used in
>> > arguement against him on the public record. Do not hold court in the
>> > media just gossip about things you know are true in order for the
>> > courts to act properly in the public interest.
>> >
>> > Bobby has paid the devil his due and done time in his jails. It is
>> > time for him to seek relief. I have as well. I was summoned to jail in
>> > the USA while running for Parliament in Canada and held under the
>> > charges of "other". I will not want allow myself to be judged on just
>> > one particular act or deed. My criminal trial in the USA is coming
>> > very soon. I will have lots to say.
>> >
>> > It is the average of all our days and deeds that speaks of us as the
>> > men we are. Like any game, it is what happens in the end that counts.
>> > Sometimes sacrifices must be made and sometimes mistakes are made.
>> > However once the word "checkmate" is declared, it is all over but the
>> > crying as long as we play by the rules and the fat lady sings in tune.
>> > I am more than happy to provide to Mr. Vattuone my evidence of much
>> > public corruption in order to support Bobby's lawsuit against the USA.
>> > It is high time the the Masters of War paid the fiddler and then be
>> > compelled to dance to a different tune as we make them fall on their
>> > own sword. No one is above the law. The public trust must be upheld or
>> > we are all losers in the the big big game. Forget Bobby and chess for
>> > a minute and listen to what he is saying through his attorney. I
>> > applaud is efforts in support of Bobby and his legal matters. I hope
>> > we get on like a house on fire. Any enemy of my foe should be a friend
>> > of mine. Bobby lawyer is your neighbor listen to him and then speak
>> > out to protect your own civil rights. What happened to Bobby and I
>> > could happen to you next. Get it?
>> >
>> > If anyone wishes to challenge what I have said, respond to this
>> > message with a email account that can hold of 25 megs of attachments.
>> > I will send you Tiff files of legal documents etc. that will take you
>> > down path of of the Garden of Good and Evil that everybody knows is
>> > true. I simply made it a point to prove it. My particular forte that
>> > helped accomplish such a necessary task is that I am more stubburn
>> > than a pig, meaner than a snake and smarter than the average bear.
>> > Much to my chagrin, I am just an average sort of chess player and have
>> > much to learn from Bobby in that regard but I maintain that chess is
>> > just a game. Bobby was compelled to play a far more serious and deadly
>> > game just because of his love of a game. I do recognize his talent but
>> > my hat is off to him because of what he did and stood for as a man not
>> > a chess player. In regards to his legal actions methinks I can teach
>> > his attorney a trick or two of mine.
>> >
>> > If anyone has any questions here is my phone number. 506 434-1379
>> > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 506 434-1379
>> > end_of_the_skype_highlighting Feel free to argue me and stress test my
>> > ethics to the max. It is your freedom as well as my own that I am
>> > protecting. I think anyone has the right to question my motives. I
>> > speak plainly and do not hide my identity. Integrity does not need a
>> > mask to hide behind. However men like John Ashcroft and all his
>> > cohorts need jails to cage honest men who speak their mind about their
>> > masks of virtue.
>> >
>> > Bobby is just one man of many. His is fortunate that he is famous.
>> > Iceland would not do such things on behalf of the likes of me and many
>> > others. However Canada or Japan or whatever would do the same against
>> > me to support President Bush in a New York minute. In fact it already
>> > happened. The one file I have attached is the reason Clark Kent Ervin
>> > got fired immediately after the recent election. He long along proved
>> > to me that he was not interested in Truth Justice and the American Way
>> > and in fact he is a dumb as a post. I will wager I could beat him at
>> > chess. I know I played him like a fiddle as a lawyer and that is his
>> > game of choice. It was really to funny to me the advice he offered to
>> > others as he entered into the Aspen Crowd of nasty dudes. I feel the
>> > need to quote him. Many a govenment lawyer will understand why I am
>> > busting my gut laughing. I hope Bobby's lawyer does too.
>> >
>> > Lauren Robinson POGO Fellow " Any advice for your fellow public
>> > servants?"
>> >
>> > Clark Kent Ervin "Well, just do your job and let the political chips
>> > fall where they may. Unless your're willing to do that, it seems to me
>> > you shouldn't take the job in the first place."
>> >
>> > My answer to his remark is No Shit Sherlock. The former Inspector
>> > General can expect a rather profound civil lawsuit. He must argue me
>> > Pro Se or a at least without government assistance on his behalf
>> > because he failed to act within the scope of his employment and he is
>> > now out of the job.
>> >
>> > David Raymond Amos
>> >
>> >
>> > Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:12 PM
>> > December 7th, 2003
>> >
>> > Gene Healy Senior Editor Cato Institute
>> > 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
>> > Washington D.C. 20001-5403
>> > Phone (202) 842-0200 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting
>> > (202) 842-0200 end_of_the_skype_highlighting
>> > Fax (202) 842-3490
>> > RE: Corruption
>> > Sir,
>> > Please find enclosed an exact copy of a letter with all its enclosures
>> > recently sent to the Hearst Corporation and many others. Many of your
>> > directors such as Lewis E. Randall, John C. Malone and Jeffrey S. Yass
>> > should find the documents an interesting read. I ask that you make
>> > them available for their review.
>> > I watched David Boaz speak on C-Span the other day and heard him say
>> > many things. What I found the most interesting was that he said that
>> > the Cato Institute was named after some rather prolific letter
>> > writers. I invite you all to read mine. They can be found at the
>> > website mentioned in the enclosed documents. I could not send this
>> > letter to Mr. Boaz because he is not a lawyer and an officer of the
>> > court as you are. This is because only law enforcement authorities or
>> > officers of the court have any right to listen to the copy of wiretap
>> > numbered 139. It is served upon you in confidence as an officer of the
>> > court in order that you may act ethically and see that it is properly
>> > investigated. Please share the contents of the Cd with only the proper
>> > authorities so that I may never be accused of violating anyone's
>> > Fourth Amendment Rights.
>> > As I have said to many other lawyers, at the very least I have now
>> > made you a witness to my pursuit of justice. I ask you simply the
>> > following. What will you do with your newfound knowledge of Civil
>> > Rights Violations and Government Corruption?
>> > Best Regards
>> > David R.Amos
>> > 153 Alvin Ave.
>> > Milton MA. 02186
>> >
>> > Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:22 PM
>> > Um, as I was saying about some people being, um, a bit....well,
>> > "different."
>> >
>> > Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 27, 2005 09:12 PM
>> > Did I mention that I found snotty Oxford dudes had stuffed shirts and
>> > were great fun to poke fun at as they bullshit others about how smart
>> > they are?
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David Amos
>> > To: marnie.ferguson@keyporter.com
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:08 PM
>> > Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David Amos
>> > To: deborahlbmc@yahoo.com ; egeetter@bu.edu ;
>> > dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; lawrence_summers@harvard.edu ;
>> > wrogersjr@therogerslawfirm.com ; thomas.hannigan@ropesgray.com ;
>> > jotodd@toddweld.com
>> > Cc: warren.tolman@hklaw.com ; dan@dankennedy.net ; w.kirtz@neu.edu ;
>> > howiecarr@wrko.com ; bzelnick@bu.edu ; n.daniloff@neu.edu ;
>> > barnicle@969fmtalk.com ; wsj.ltrs@wsj.com ; amy.wolfcale@dowjones.com
>> > ; joseph.stern@dowjones.com ; letters@washpost.com ; fair@fair.org ;
>> > editor@usatoday.com ; pressreleases@upi.com ; letters@time.com ;
>> > newshour@pbs.org ; ombudsman@npr.org ; morning@npr.org ;
>> > letters@newsweek.com ; nytnews@nytimes.com ;
>> > dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; gillooly@dailyfreepress.com ;
>> > dfpnews@dailyfreepress.com ; 48hours@cbsnews.com ; pr@ap.org ;
>> > nightline@abcnews.com
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:21 PM
>> > Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey
>> >
>> > It appears that all the Law Schools know nothing of ethical behavior
>> > if it may affect their coffers. I made it my task to prove it. Lets
>> > see if I can turn the worm and make the light dawn on Marblehead for
>> > the benefit of all.
>> >
>> > Whereas Todd Klipp is on Legal Advisory Committee United Educators
>> > (UE) Insurance Risk Retention Group I called Corporate Counsel, Jan
>> > Holt and told her something is up and that I would be serving the Hard
>> > Copy of the evidence that proves what I say is true upon Mr. Klipp. If
>> > I were you I would go to the US District Court in Beantown, query the
>> > dockets that bear my name and ask the BU professor Chief Justice Young
>> > about his integrity and his association with crooks like Charles J.
>> > Kickham Jr. and all of his cohorts.
>> >
>> > Cardinal Law would be a good witness to ask to start a proper
>> > investigation that is if you can get whoever becomes the next US
>> > Ambassador to the Vatican to make him fess up about his sins.
>> > Otherwise ask his former secretary Robert Kickham he is now O'Malley's
>> > secretary. I have no doubt that little bastard knows everything but
>> > trust that the three legal stooges Todd, Rogers and Hannigan have told
>> > him to shut up and wait for me to quit or die. However I think the
>> > Kickhams will soon fold their hand and start rattin out others very
>> > soon. Their is no honour amongst theives and I have the Kickhams
>> > cornered after three years of hard work. Their big daddy Chucky is
>> > dead and the rest of them are as dumb as a post. Uncle Franky has been
>> > dead since last June and I have finally forced the court to admit it.
>> > None of their accountings have been assented to by anyone and the IRS
>> > must check their work before my wife will settle. the Feds have a big
>> > problem and everybody knows its me.
>> >
>> > I am proud to say I won't quit and don't care if I die. I made certain
>> > that my truths live on and that no Kickham relatives can no longer
>> > claim to be kin to my little Clan. I refuse to allow my family to
>> > associate with bible pounding criminals that expound of law nor will I
>> > settle with them in order that they may escape justice. They must be
>> > held accountable and so should all their friends.
>> >
>> > I may seem crazy but at least I know my rights and will not allow
>> > wrongs against my family to go unpunished, particularly when the
>> > wrongs are practiced by people well paid or licensed by the state to
>> > insure that matters such as this never happen. If I am not crazy then
>> > the governments of Canada and the USA must be insanely corrupt. I know
>> > for a fact that there are a lot of ordinary people that agree with me
>> > therefore I know I am OK but I have my doubts about you. i am giving
>> > Mr. Klipp just enough evidence to impeach George Bush and for safe
>> > measure I am giving the same material to many others as well. Here's
>> > hoping ethics wins out after all. Otherwise we are all losers and the
>> > crooks within such organizations as the Aspen Institute will keep on
>> > advising the bastards on how to screw us all.
>> >
>> > The judges of the First Circuit of the US District Court have a lot to
>> > be accountable for and Judge Young is well aware of it all. He has no
>> > right to teach others about trial practice and the law until he proves
>> > that he understands how to uphold the law. I will be suing the bastard
>> > in short order you pick whether you wish to stand with him or me.
>> > There is no middle ground in this legal battle for Boston University
>> > to stand on. Judge Young is in your employ. However methinks he is no
>> > longer a feather in your cap. The University has bragged to have such
>> > a man to teach the students. What say you now?
>> >
>> > Trust that I don't care if anyone reads this email or not. In fact it
>> > will be more fun if ya didn't.
>> >
>> > "The Honorable William G. Young was appointed judge of the U.S.
>> > District Court for Massachusetts in 1984, after serving as associate
>> > justice of the state's Superior Court. Prior positions include special
>> > assistant attorney general, chief counsel to the governor, and clerk
>> > for the Honorable Raymond Wilkins, former chief justice of the
>> > Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Judge Young has a long list of
>> > pro bono activities, teaching experience, and several awards,
>> > including the Award for Judicial Excellence from the Massachusetts
>> > Academy of Trial Attorneys. Judge Young developed the course Advanced
>> > Trial Practice and also teaches Evidence."
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David Amos
>> > To: jb95@bu.edu
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:02 PM
>> > Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David Amos
>> > To: MauraH@ci.boston.ma.us ; maurah@maurahennigan.com
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:36 PM
>> > Subject: I just called I am not kidding
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David Amos
>> > To: info@pogo.org ; elliot.gerson@aspeninstitute.org ;
>> > pat.zindulka@aspeninstitute.org ; peter. reiling@aspeninstitute.org ;
>> > clark.ervin@aspeninstitute.org
>> > Cc: brian@questionsquestions.net ; plough@ploughshares.ca ; moto
>> > maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ; kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; backtalk@motherjones.com
>> > ; Wes Penre@Illuminati News.com ; tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ;
>> > david@davidakin.com ; McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
>> > cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
>> > INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca ;
>> > Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
>> > Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
>> > Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:30 AM
>> > Subject: I just left voicemail for Jim Spiegelman
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey Fellas
>> > I have picked you Mr. Gerson to send exactly the same material that I
>> > sent to two Solicitor Generals last year before I ran for Parliament
>> > in Canada. I am certain that material caused Theodore Olson to quit
>> > his job and your brand new fellow, Clark Kent Erwin to get the boot
>> > from his job right after the last Yankee election.
>> > Obviously I picked you because of your own bragging. There is no need
>> > for me to expand upon things that you and I know to be true. It is
>> > merely my task to prove to the world that you are well aware of my
>> > concerns and allegations. Then if you and your Association does
>> > nothing to uphold the public trust, I will make it my best effort to
>> > embarrass you all in court in front of a jury of my peers. You people
>> > claim to inspire people to ethical leaders? I say Bullshit. What say
>> > you?
>> > Say Hey to Superman for me. Will ya? Yea I know I just did but he
>> > likes to keep everything in confidence while his cohorts keep me
>> > falsely imprisoned. However I plan to call him to testify during my
>> > pending criminal trial as I have the right to do. I should be very
>> > interesting to see if he takes the fifth.
>> > David R. Amos
>> >
>> >
>> > "Elliot Gerson is responsible for the Aspen Institute's seminars,
>> > including the Executive Seminar, topical and custom seminars, and
>> > those offered in the Society of Fellows and Socrates programs. He also
>> > manages the Institute's public programs and activities, including the
>> > Aspen Ideas Festival. He is a graduate of Harvard College, Oxford
>> > University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar, and Yale Law School. As
>> > American Secretary of the Rhodes Trust, he manages the U.S. Rhodes
>> > Scholarships and is an advisor to the Mandela Rhodes Foundation in
>> > Cape Town, which focuses on African higher education and leadership.
>> > He was a U. S. Supreme Court clerk and has had a career including the
>> > practice of law, executive positions in state and federal government
>> > and a presidential campaign, president of leading insurance and
>> > healthcare companies, and service on many non-profit boards,
>> > especially in the arts."
>> >
>> >
>> > Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:23 PM
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David Amos
>> > To: backtalk@motherjones.com
>> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:01 PM
>> > Subject: Fw: Cya in court Cato
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: David Amos
>> > To: tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ; tcarpent@cato.org ;
>> > dboaz@cato.org ; rpilon@cato.org ; cpreble@cato.org ; tlynch@cato.org
>> > ; blindsey@cato.org ; rlevy@cato.org ; tfirey@cato.org ;
>> > ecrane@cato.org
>> > Cc: Wes Penre@Illuminati News ; freedom_of_information@yahoogroups.com
>> > ; Letters@globeandmail.ca ; webmaster@canadalawcourts.com ; lloyd
>> > brinson ; J. D. Kuntz ; elois@newdata.ca ; Jack Hook ; John Bjornstrom
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 8:47 PM
>> > Subject: Cya in court Cato
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey Tommy Boy
>> > You invited me. These are your words correct? I tried to register on
>> > line but your link does not work. I want to come. we should be in
>> > agreement in most things but I know we are not and we should really
>> > talk about it before I file my civil lawsuits. You people have already
>> > proven to me your malice. this is your last chance to act ethically.
>> > My criminal trial will begin shortly thereafter and I may call some of
>> > you to testify at it. One of them could be you. I am one of those
>> > people that many already turn to for an honest opinion. Right or wrong
>> > they know my answer comes from sincere ethical consideration because I
>> > am more a man of my word than legions of lawyers ever were. I am good
>> > to my friends and sheer hell to my foes. I hate the false fronts of
>> > integrity of the people you joke about within your following
>> > invitation. You are joking. I am not.
>> > Dear Friend,
>> >
>> > Would you like to be the person to whom others turn for an explanation
>> > of the debate over Social Security and retirement, the economics of
>> > international trade, or how to control pollution and protect the
>> > environment through incentives? Would you like to be better able to
>> > explain the benefits of free markets, private property, and free trade
>> > to your friends, colleagues, and family members?
>> >
>> > If so, you should come to Washington, D.C., for the Cato University
>> > seminar April 28 to May 1 on Applied Economics: User-Friendly Tools to
>> > Understand Politics, Business Enterprise, and Life. The faculty
>> > includes top-level economists and policy experts from universities and
>> > the Cato Institute.
>> >
>> > The seminar will be held in the F. A. Hayek Auditorium of the Cato
>> > Institute, with dinner and a tour at Mount Vernon, the historic home
>> > of George Washington.
>> >
>> > Our goal is to help attendees become the people to whom their friends
>> > turn to explain the economy and how political interference in markets
>> > tends to generate disaster. And there's a reason it's being held in
>> > Washington, D.C. You see, we want to change fundamentally the culture
>> > of Washington, D.C. Washington's a very strange city. Most of the
>> > people here spend their working days taking from Peter to give to Paul
>> > (minus a substantial cut, of course). Or writing minute and
>> > incomprehensible "regulations" on the optimal size of broccoli, or
>> > warning people to wear sensible shoes, or just figuring out new ways
>> > to strip American citizens of their rights and dignity.
>> >
>> > You can come to D.C. for a long weekend and learn how to change that.
>> > You'll learn how to make the arguments that will convince your
>> > friends, coworkers, and neighbors that they don't need or benefit from
>> > all those rules, redistributions, regulations, and rip-offs.
>> >
>> > You're invited to attend one Cato University seminar, or two, or
>> > three. Each is a stand alone seminar, but all three are complementary.
>> > (The other two are on history and on the art and technique of
>> > persuasion.)
>> >
>> > Please check out the faculty and schedule, and register using our
>> > secure registration form. Online registration is safe, easy, and fast.
>> >
>> > Come to Washington, D.C. ... and learn how to change it.
>> >
>> > I look forward to welcoming you to Cato University this year.
>> >
>> > Cordially,
>> >
>> > and Signed by you. Tom Palmer
>> >


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 09:26:46 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE Attached document ATTN Kristina Persson, Hans
Dahlgren and Erik Nises I just called Prime Minister Stefan Löfven's
office again from 902 800 0369
To: talmannen@riksdagen.se, "speakers.office"
< speakers.office@parliament.govt.nz>, johanna.blomqvist@riksdagen.se,
socialdemokraterna@riksdagen.se, info@moderaterna.se, info@mp.se,
info@centerpartiet.se, info@vansterpartiet.se, info@liberalerna.se,
info@kristdemokraterna.se, geoff@geoffregan.ca, dayja@sen.parl.gc.ca,
"heather.bradley"<heather.bradley@parl.gc.ca>, SpkrOff@parl.gc.ca,
geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca, geoff.regan.a1@parl.gc.ca,
cmunroe@glgmlaw.com, john.wallace@sen.parl.gc.ca,
rona.ambrose.A1@parl.gc.ca, david.mcguinty@parl.gc.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, gopublic
< gopublic@cbc.ca>, investigations <investigations@cbc.ca>,
Whistleblower <Whistleblower@ctv.ca>, "Gilles.Moreau"
< Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Erin.Weir"<Erin.Weir@parl.gc.ca>,
MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>

The Riksdag Administration
Johanna Blomqvist, Press Secretary
Telephone: +46 8-786 47 34, +46 72-728 37 33
E-mail: johanna.blomqvist@riksdagen.se

March 24, 2005
Crazy as a Loon, but Free

Off to Iceland!

Well, Bobby Fischer has his Icelandic passport. The U.S. government
can now stop persecuting him for the crime of playing chess in
Yugoslavia. Fischer may be out of his mind (tha’ts almost certain, if
you consider his anti-Semitism and praise for the 9-11 attacks), but
he’s not out of his mind for choosing Iceland as his country of
refuge. And the Icelanders, who may later regret having such an
utterly crazy person wandering around in their country, have done the
right thing by offering him refuge.

NOTE: I seem to have attracted a stalker, who keeps posting strange
messages on this site. Whatever.

Posted by Tom Palmer at March 24, 2005 07:09 AM | TrackBack

Comments
Quite frankly I do not understand this. What does Iceland gain from
this? Fischer himself stated that he would NEVER return to chess. So,
it is unlikely that he will play for Iceland... and even though he
did, it is not like he’d be back at the top.
Now, he might want to teach his fellow Icelanders
Fischerrandom...Fischerrandom is to chess what Estonian grammar is to
linguistic ...And THAT sounds like a threat to me. NV


Posted by: Nathalie I. Vogel at March 24, 2005 08:36 AM

I doubt that Iceland has much to gain. (And I suspect that the
inhabitants of Reykjavik may suffer from having an insufferable
loudmouth crackpot wandering around.) But they did the right thing.
The better thing would have been for the U.S. to drop its case against
Mr. Fischer. I don't think you should lose your passport or suffer
criminal prosecution for traveling someplace to play chess. I think
that the position of the U.S. government (and of both Democratic and
Republican administrations) is the harder one to understand.

Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 24, 2005 08:47 AM

TGP: "Fischer may be out of his mind (tha’ts almost certain, if you
consider his anti-Semitism "

I don't want to go all Szaszian on someone for what is most likely a
casual comment, but suggesting someone is "out of his mind" simply
because he is (labeled as) anti-Semitic seems overmuch. Immoral,
perhaps...poorly informed, possibly...holding to views developed as a
result of childhood associations, maybe...a confusion on either the
part of Fischer or the person making the accusation of anti-Semitism
with anti-Zionism, quite possible. But "out of his mind"?

Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 24, 2005 11:17 AM

Ross, Tom did refer to 'his' anti-Semitism; maybe it's not just that
Fischer does not like Jews, but that he suffers from a particularly
radical form of bigotry.

I wouldn't know myself, but that was the inference I drew from Tom's comment.

Posted by: Henri Hein at March 25, 2005 02:45 AM

Then, Henri, he would be immoral, or bigoted, not "out of his mind".
And he should consult an ethicist, not a travel agent or chiropracter
to bring him back to his mind or better align it.
Again, my point was merely that "out of his mind" implies one must be
crazy or mentally ill to be anti-Semitic; I think that's a category
error.

Ross

Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 25, 2005 06:54 PM

Ross's points are well taken, but I do think that some term such as
"crazy" (I'll stay away from "mentally ill") is useful in describing
Mr. Fischer. (And even Thomas Szasz readily admits that there are
"lots of crazy people" around; he just says that they're not sick.)

The anti-Semitism that Mr. Fischer spouts is not of the "they wouldn't
be welcome in our club" sort (bad as that is), but of the "Organized
International Jewry is out to get me," sort. The former is an example
of bad behavior, bad manners, immoral views, or the like. The latter
sort of anti-Semitism is an obsession that seems in general to be
immune to either moral appeal (since it's a claim about an alleged
state of affairs, viz., that the Jews run everything and are out to
get one) or to factual refutation (how do you argue someone out of
such a...for want of a better word...crazy view?).

Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 25, 2005 11:34 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: rjvattuone@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:59 AM
Subject: This is going to get interesting


Hey Richard

Thanks for calling me back the other day. Here is my number in Boston
617 698-6549. I will be hitting the road shortly and I will be sending
out to you hard copy of what I am sending to Scott Daruty. However
there is a great deal more you should know ASAP. I am involved against
the biggest and baddest of them all and we all know they play for
keeps. It is important that you know much and have evidence of it in
order to protect yourself. I know they moniter my phone calls and I
have know doubt that they listen to the Canadain Cell as well. The
fact that you spoke to me honestly and openly puts you in jeopardy. If
you had acted like most lawyers, the bastards would leave you alone.
If you come to my aid, they will attack you. Trust me it has happened
before and I will send proof of it in the following emails. Some
contain the Tiffs I mentioned I am curious to see if they get through
AOL system. I hack been blocked by them in the past. I have not heard
from Barry Bachrach since just after he warned me that the FBI was
about to pounce on me on Oct 1st. It seems they have him running
scared. I must do my best to protect honest men..

The following is what I just posted but it seems Bill Gates does not
allow Tiff files in his sites so I will forward it to you to support
what I said is true. Answer this email if and when you get it an I
will send some others if you wish. However I think it would be better
not to use AOL. As I said just get one in Yahoo or Hotmail they work
better and are free.

From: motomaniac in response to Message 1 Sent: 3/27/2005 9:21 AM

In defense of Bobby Fischer I must say that he is just another man
like me. He has his strengths and his weaknesses. Just like me. One
particular forte of his, the amazing ability to play a game very well
thrust him into the limelight for the whole wide world to study and
examine his every move. More importantly I believe his fame caused him
to become a pawn in the big big game. Although he had his right to
privacy, the whole world dogged at his heels and critized his every
action as a man. The Masters of War obviously tried use him to their
advantage during the Cold War. He is not a stateman or a lawyer. He is
simply a free thinking individual who has every right to speak his
mind particularly after he has suffered through hell just because he
plays chess so very well.

I say judge not lest ye be judged and mind your own mouth about things
you do not know all the details of. I am far more outspoken than Bobby
ever was and yet you have never even heard of my name. It is because
the corporate controlled media is not permited to do so. I am nobody
with any special talent that had caused me to be thrown into public
scrutiny before I was compelled to speak out as Bobby has done. I do
not have to agree or disagree with his every word over the years to
understand his meaning and his troubles. That said, in all honesty it
would behoove us both if his lawyer would listen to me and employ
Bobby's fame to expose the truth of all that we say.

I am am not a perfect person and neither is Bobby. I do not know him
nor do I judge him. Yet I do agree with with his standing in defense
of his freedom. The Chessmaster has every right to spout off against
the Masters of War because they have offended him greatly. It is for
his attorney to weed out the truth and evidence of his convictions and
present it in court in order to seek relief on his client's behalf. A
jury of his peers will decide the truth of his matters not us bloggers
without veiwing and hearing all the evidence. Forget what you may
glean from the media. The information is controlled and slanted
against him. Listen to what his lawyer says and what is used in
arguement against him on the public record. Do not hold court in the
media just gossip about things you know are true in order for the
courts to act properly in the public interest.

Bobby has paid the devil his due and done time in his jails. It is
time for him to seek relief. I have as well. I was summoned to jail in
the USA while running for Parliament in Canada and held under the
charges of "other". I will not want allow myself to be judged on just
one particular act or deed. My criminal trial in the USA is coming
very soon. I will have lots to say.

It is the average of all our days and deeds that speaks of us as the
men we are. Like any game, it is what happens in the end that counts.
Sometimes sacrifices must be made and sometimes mistakes are made.
However once the word "checkmate" is declared, it is all over but the
crying as long as we play by the rules and the fat lady sings in tune.
I am more than happy to provide to Mr. Vattuone my evidence of much
public corruption in order to support Bobby's lawsuit against the USA.
It is high time the the Masters of War paid the fiddler and then be
compelled to dance to a different tune as we make them fall on their
own sword. No one is above the law. The public trust must be upheld or
we are all losers in the the big big game. Forget Bobby and chess for
a minute and listen to what he is saying through his attorney. I
applaud is efforts in support of Bobby and his legal matters. I hope
we get on like a house on fire. Any enemy of my foe should be a friend
of mine. Bobby lawyer is your neighbor listen to him and then speak
out to protect your own civil rights. What happened to Bobby and I
could happen to you next. Get it?

If anyone wishes to challenge what I have said, respond to this
message with a email account that can hold of 25 megs of attachments.
I will send you Tiff files of legal documents etc. that will take you
down path of of the Garden of Good and Evil that everybody knows is
true. I simply made it a point to prove it. My particular forte that
helped accomplish such a necessary task is that I am more stubburn
than a pig, meaner than a snake and smarter than the average bear.
Much to my chagrin, I am just an average sort of chess player and have
much to learn from Bobby in that regard but I maintain that chess is
just a game. Bobby was compelled to play a far more serious and deadly
game just because of his love of a game. I do recognize his talent but
my hat is off to him because of what he did and stood for as a man not
a chess player. In regards to his legal actions methinks I can teach
his attorney a trick or two of mine.

If anyone has any questions here is my phone number. 506 434-1379 Feel
free to argue me and stress test my ethics to the max. It is your
freedom as well as my own that I am protecting. I think anyone has the
right to question my motives. I speak plainly and do not hide my
identity. Integrity does not need a mask to hide behind. However men
like John Ashcroft and all his cohorts need jails to cage honest men
who speak their mind about their masks of virtue.

Bobby is just one man of many. His is fortunate that he is famous.
Iceland would not do such things on behalf of the likes of me and many
others. However Canada or Japan or whatever would do the same against
me to support President Bush in a New York minute. In fact it already
happened. The one file I have attached is the reason Clark Kent Ervin
got fired immediately after the recent election. He long along proved
to me that he was not interested in Truth Justice and the American Way
and in fact he is a dumb as a post. I will wager I could beat him at
chess. I know I played him like a fiddle as a lawyer and that is his
game of choice. It was really to funny to me the advice he offered to
others as he entered into the Aspen Crowd of nasty dudes. I feel the
need to quote him. Many a govenment lawyer will understand why I am
busting my gut laughing. I hope Bobby's lawyer does too.

Lauren Robinson POGO Fellow " Any advice for your fellow public servants?"

Clark Kent Ervin "Well, just do your job and let the political chips
fall where they may. Unless your're willing to do that, it seems to me
you shouldn't take the job in the first place."

My answer to his remark is No Shit Sherlock. The former Inspector
General can expect a rather profound civil lawsuit. He must argue me
Pro Se or a at least without government assistance on his behalf
because he failed to act within the scope of his employment and he is
now out of the job.

David Raymond Amos


Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:12 PM

December 7th, 2003

Gene Healy Senior Editor Cato Institute
1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
Washington D.C. 20001-5403
Phone (202) 842-0200
Fax (202) 842-3490
RE: Corruption
Sir,
Please find enclosed an exact copy of a letter with all its enclosures
recently sent to the Hearst Corporation and many others. Many of your
directors such as Lewis E. Randall, John C. Malone and Jeffrey S. Yass
should find the documents an interesting read. I ask that you make
them available for their review.
I watched David Boaz speak on C-Span the other day and heard him say
many things. What I found the most interesting was that he said that
the Cato Institute was named after some rather prolific letter
writers. I invite you all to read mine. They can be found at the
website mentioned in the enclosed documents. I could not send this
letter to Mr. Boaz because he is not a lawyer and an officer of the
court as you are. This is because only law enforcement authorities or
officers of the court have any right to listen to the copy of wiretap
numbered 139. It is served upon you in confidence as an officer of the
court in order that you may act ethically and see that it is properly
investigated. Please share the contents of the Cd with only the proper
authorities so that I may never be accused of violating anyone’s
Fourth Amendment Rights.
As I have said to many other lawyers, at the very least I have now
made you a witness to my pursuit of justice. I ask you simply the
following. What will you do with your newfound knowledge of Civil
Rights Violations and Government Corruption?
Best Regards
David R.Amos
153 Alvin Ave.
Milton MA. 02186

Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:22 PM

Um, as I was saying about some people being, um, a bit....well, "different."

Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 27, 2005 09:12 PM

Did I mention that I found snotty Oxford dudes had stuffed shirts and
were great fun to poke fun at as they bullshit others about how smart
they are?

----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: marnie.ferguson@keyporter.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:08 PM
Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: deborahlbmc@yahoo.com ; egeetter@bu.edu ;
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dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; gillooly@dailyfreepress.com ;
dfpnews@dailyfreepress.com ; 48hours@cbsnews.com ; pr@ap.org ;
nightline@abcnews.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:21 PM
Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding


Hey

It appears that all the Law Schools know nothing of ethical behavior
if it may affect their coffers. I made it my task to prove it. Lets
see if I can turn the worm and make the light dawn on Marblehead for
the benefit of all.

Whereas Todd Klipp is on Legal Advisory Committee United Educators
(UE) Insurance Risk Retention Group I called Corporate Counsel, Jan
Holt and told her something is up and that I would be serving the Hard
Copy of the evidence that proves what I say is true upon Mr. Klipp. If
I were you I would go to the US District Court in Beantown, query the
dockets that bear my name and ask the BU professor Chief Justice Young
about his integrity and his association with crooks like Charles J.
Kickham Jr. and all of his cohorts.

Cardinal Law would be a good witness to ask to start a proper
investigation that is if you can get whoever becomes the next US
Ambassador to the Vatican to make him fess up about his sins.
Otherwise ask his former secretary Robert Kickham he is now O'Malley's
secretary. I have no doubt that little bastard knows everything but
trust that the three legal stooges Todd, Rogers and Hannigan have told
him to shut up and wait for me to quit or die. However I think the
Kickhams will soon fold their hand and start rattin out others very
soon. Their is no honour amongst theives and I have the Kickhams
cornered after three years of hard work. Their big daddy Chucky is
dead and the rest of them are as dumb as a post. Uncle Franky has been
dead since last June and I have finally forced the court to admit it.
None of their accountings have been assented to by anyone and the IRS
must check their work before my wife will settle. the Feds have a big
problem and everybody knows its me.

I am proud to say I won't quit and don't care if I die. I made certain
that my truths live on and that no Kickham relatives can no longer
claim to be kin to my little Clan. I refuse to allow my family to
associate with bible pounding criminals that expound of law nor will I
settle with them in order that they may escape justice. They must be
held accountable and so should all their friends.

I may seem crazy but at least I know my rights and will not allow
wrongs against my family to go unpunished, particularly when the
wrongs are practiced by people well paid or licensed by the state to
insure that matters such as this never happen. If I am not crazy then
the governments of Canada and the USA must be insanely corrupt. I know
for a fact that there are a lot of ordinary people that agree with me
therefore I know I am OK but I have my doubts about you. i am giving
Mr. Klipp just enough evidence to impeach George Bush and for safe
measure I am giving the same material to many others as well. Here's
hoping ethics wins out after all. Otherwise we are all losers and the
crooks within such organizations as the Aspen Institute will keep on
advising the bastards on how to screw us all.

The judges of the First Circuit of the US District Court have a lot to
be accountable for and Judge Young is well aware of it all. He has no
right to teach others about trial practice and the law until he proves
that he understands how to uphold the law. I will be suing the bastard
in short order you pick whether you wish to stand with him or me.
There is no middle ground in this legal battle for Boston University
to stand on. Judge Young is in your employ. However methinks he is no
longer a feather in your cap. The University has bragged to have such
a man to teach the students. What say you now?

Trust that I don't care if anyone reads this email or not. In fact it
will be more fun if ya didn't.

"The Honorable William G. Young was appointed judge of the U.S.
District Court for Massachusetts in 1984, after serving as associate
justice of the state’s Superior Court. Prior positions include special
assistant attorney general, chief counsel to the governor, and clerk
for the Honorable Raymond Wilkins, former chief justice of the
Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Judge Young has a long list of
pro bono activities, teaching experience, and several awards,
including the Award for Judicial Excellence from the Massachusetts
Academy of Trial Attorneys. Judge Young developed the course Advanced
Trial Practice and also teaches Evidence."

----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: jb95@bu.edu
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:02 PM
Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: MauraH@ci.boston.ma.us ; maurah@maurahennigan.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: I just called I am not kidding



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: info@pogo.org ; elliot.gerson@aspeninstitute.org ;
pat.zindulka@aspeninstitute.org ; peter. reiling@aspeninstitute.org ;
clark.ervin@aspeninstitute.org
Cc: brian@questionsquestions.net ; plough@ploughshares.ca ; moto
maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ; kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; backtalk@motherjones.com
; Wes Penre@Illuminati News.com ; tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ;
david@davidakin.com ; McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca ;
Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:30 AM
Subject: I just left voicemail for Jim Spiegelman


Hey Fellas
I have picked you Mr. Gerson to send exactly the same material that I
sent to two Solicitor Generals last year before I ran for Parliament
in Canada. I am certain that material caused Theodore Olson to quit
his job and your brand new fellow, Clark Kent Erwin to get the boot
from his job right after the last Yankee election.
Obviously I picked you because of your own bragging. There is no need
for me to expand upon things that you and I know to be true. It is
merely my task to prove to the world that you are well aware of my
concerns and allegations. Then if you and your Association does
nothing to uphold the public trust, I will make it my best effort to
embarrass you all in court in front of a jury of my peers. You people
claim to inspire people to ethical leaders? I say Bullshit. What say
you?
Say Hey to Superman for me. Will ya? Yea I know I just did but he
likes to keep everything in confidence while his cohorts keep me
falsely imprisoned. However I plan to call him to testify during my
pending criminal trial as I have the right to do. I should be very
interesting to see if he takes the fifth.
David R. Amos


"Elliot Gerson is responsible for the Aspen Institute's seminars,
including the Executive Seminar, topical and custom seminars, and
those offered in the Society of Fellows and Socrates programs. He also
manages the Institute's public programs and activities, including the
Aspen Ideas Festival. He is a graduate of Harvard College, Oxford
University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar, and Yale Law School. As
American Secretary of the Rhodes Trust, he manages the U.S. Rhodes
Scholarships and is an advisor to the Mandela Rhodes Foundation in
Cape Town, which focuses on African higher education and leadership.
He was a U. S. Supreme Court clerk and has had a career including the
practice of law, executive positions in state and federal government
and a presidential campaign, president of leading insurance and
healthcare companies, and service on many non-profit boards,
especially in the arts."


Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:23 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: backtalk@motherjones.com
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:01 PM
Subject: Fw: Cya in court Cato


----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ; tcarpent@cato.org ;
dboaz@cato.org ; rpilon@cato.org ; cpreble@cato.org ; tlynch@cato.org
; blindsey@cato.org ; rlevy@cato.org ; tfirey@cato.org ;
ecrane@cato.org
Cc: Wes Penre@Illuminati News ; freedom_of_information@yahoogroups.com
; Letters@globeandmail.ca ; webmaster@canadalawcourts.com ; lloyd
brinson ; J. D. Kuntz ; elois@newdata.ca ; Jack Hook ; John Bjornstrom
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 8:47 PM
Subject: Cya in court Cato



Hey Tommy Boy
You invited me. These are your words correct? I tried to register on
line but your link does not work. I want to come. we should be in
agreement in most things but I know we are not and we should really
talk about it before I file my civil lawsuits. You people have already
proven to me your malice. this is your last chance to act ethically.
My criminal trial will begin shortly thereafter and I may call some of
you to testify at it. One of them could be you. I am one of those
people that many already turn to for an honest opinion. Right or wrong
they know my answer comes from sincere ethical consideration because I
am more a man of my word than legions of lawyers ever were. I am good
to my friends and sheer hell to my foes. I hate the false fronts of
integrity of the people you joke about within your following
invitation. You are joking. I am not.
Dear Friend,

Would you like to be the person to whom others turn for an explanation
of the debate over Social Security and retirement, the economics of
international trade, or how to control pollution and protect the
environment through incentives? Would you like to be better able to
explain the benefits of free markets, private property, and free trade
to your friends, colleagues, and family members?

If so, you should come to Washington, D.C., for the Cato University
seminar April 28 to May 1 on Applied Economics: User-Friendly Tools to
Understand Politics, Business Enterprise, and Life. The faculty
includes top-level economists and policy experts from universities and
the Cato Institute.

The seminar will be held in the F. A. Hayek Auditorium of the Cato
Institute, with dinner and a tour at Mount Vernon, the historic home
of George Washington.

Our goal is to help attendees become the people to whom their friends
turn to explain the economy and how political interference in markets
tends to generate disaster. And there's a reason it's being held in
Washington, D.C. You see, we want to change fundamentally the culture
of Washington, D.C. Washington's a very strange city. Most of the
people here spend their working days taking from Peter to give to Paul
(minus a substantial cut, of course). Or writing minute and
incomprehensible "regulations" on the optimal size of broccoli, or
warning people to wear sensible shoes, or just figuring out new ways
to strip American citizens of their rights and dignity.

You can come to D.C. for a long weekend and learn how to change that.
You'll learn how to make the arguments that will convince your
friends, coworkers, and neighbors that they don't need or benefit from
all those rules, redistributions, regulations, and rip-offs.

You're invited to attend one Cato University seminar, or two, or
three. Each is a stand alone seminar, but all three are complementary.
(The other two are on history and on the art and technique of
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Please check out the faculty and schedule, and register using our
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Come to Washington, D.C. ... and learn how to change it.

I look forward to welcoming you to Cato University this year.

Cordially,

and Signed by you. Tom Palmer

In order not to be somehow overlooked, I just called you cell phone to
cell phone so that I would have a record of contact to let you know we
had a problem to discuss. You were to busy to talk so you missed your
chance. Methinks you are a fine example of the reason your buddy Gene
Healy and his ilk ignored me. I read enough of your work to think you
are a very snotty tall talking whore for the Global Corps. I wanted to
hear your voice to be certain my feelings were correct. You did not
dissappoint me. If you don't like my opinion of you, sue me and bring
all these emails to court. I promise I will not file a motion to
dismiss. In fact I can't wait to meet your lawyers. I thought what you
said about Bobby Fischer was far more offensive and as you can see I
blogged in his defense. Many people call me crazy too. That seem to be
the label bad actors put on someone when they are cornered. I wanted
you to hear my voice so that you would understand that I am not nuts
but very sincere. when you shunned my last words were see you in
court. Ignore me some more and you certainly will. Check my work
before you laugh and call me crazy too.
In order to prove you all I am serious I will send Roger Pilon, Vice
President for Legal Affairs at 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.,
Washington D.C. 20001-5403 hard copy of exactly the same material I
sent to two Solicitor Generals last year just before I ran for
Parliament. Teddy Olson quit and went into private practice as soon as
Stephen Harper opened his mouth about the Arar Inquiry but thus far
Landslide Annie has hung onto hers. Now if you have any questions of
me before we meet, ask them to New Canadian Ambassador Franky Boy
McKenna. He knows exactly who I am and what has happened in the year
since. If you want a Yankee perspective ask John Ashcroft, John
Edwards. Tom Ridge, Clark Kent Ervin, Theodore Olson or David
Aufhauser to name a few. They all are now free agents and in the same
hot water as your buddy and now you.
I emailed ya, blogged ya, called ya and am now telling some your
friends plus a few of mine for good measure. Under Title 18 of the
federal code you are all as guilty as everyone else if you don't get
honest real fast. Ask Frank Quatronne and Martha Stewart about email
evidence in federal court
In light of the reasons I was falsely imprisoned and what I had sent
you dudes the year before it makes Cato's work in "Go Directly to
Jail: The Criminalization of Almost Everything." a total bullshit
piece of work. It is my job to properly shame you bastards so that
nobody will take you seriously ever again.

"At one time, the sanction of the criminal law was reserved for
serious, morally culpable offenders. But during the past 40 years, an
unholy alliance of tough-on-crime conservatives and anti-big-business
liberals has utterly transformed the criminal law. Today, while
violent crime often goes unpunished, Congress continues to add new,
trivial offenses to the federal criminal code. With more than 4,000
federal offenses on the statute books, and thousands more buried in
the Code of Federal Regulations, it is now frighteningly easy for
American citizens to be hauled off to jail for actions that no
reasonable person would regard as crimes. At the same time, rampant
federalization and mandatory minimum sentencing are making America’s
criminal justice system ever more centralized and punitive. The result
is a labyrinthine criminal code, a burgeoning prison population, and
often real injustice. Go Directly to Jail examines those alarming
trends and proposes reforms that could rein in a criminal justice
apparatus at war with fairness and common sense."
If you dudes do not want me to turn up after being invited please let
me know why in writing and introduce me to the lawyer I will be
arguing someday in court.
David R. Amos
153 Alvin Ave.
Milton, MA 02186

----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: dante17678@hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey


----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: rjvattuone@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey


----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: lsewell@canadians.org
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:27 AM
Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey


----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: jeffryhouse@hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:03 AM
Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey


----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca ; Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca ; Jack Layton ;
Easter.W@parl.gc.ca ; Cadman.C@parl.gc.ca ; Casey.B@parl.gc.ca ;
Thompson.G@parl.gc.ca
Cc: McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca ;
macaul1@parl.gc.ca ; Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca ; Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca ;
Anderson.D@parl.gc.ca ; Anderson.Da@parl.gc.ca ;
david.anderson1@sk.sympatico.ca
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:12 PM
Subject: Hunky-dory EH Petey


I got a better one for ya Petey Boy. "Thar she blows". I bet Belinda
is really pissed off at everybody and is letting off some steam. If I
were you I would start bailing out of your new party like any other
rat that would desert a sinking ship. That is one boat that could
never float. The way you back stabbed your way into its creation will
likely never be forgotten. Some of the new Senators Martin just
appointed proved that didn't they? Right now you are just hanging on
and kissing Harper's arse because nobody else will ever trust you in
their Dory except maybe the diddler, Billy Matthews. He is used to
turningcoat and needs help bailing out his punky little craft. I think
the liberals are tired of him by now and Johnny Crosbie is likely
pretty pissed at him too. I think you two dudes should be good company
for each other as everybody else tries to distance themselves from a
couple of cry babies that call themselves Maritimers. You were born
there alright but a lair lawyer and a nasty old diddler reflect poorly
upon the rest of us. But bad apples fall from the best of trees. The
sooner the better so that they don't suck the sap out of the good
ones.
Dare to argue me Petey Boy? I am ten times meaner with no temper than
the man that pitches silly fits kicks chairs. I would kick your arse
in a good debate. I would laugh if you asked me to step outside, head
for the door and quit talking immediately in a sincere effort to kick
your arse in the street. Win or lose, rest assured I would have fun.
Fighting is a true Maritime tradition. EH MacKay? Feel free to try to
call me a liar. Everybody knows it would be a case of the pot trying
to call the kettle black.

"The Nova Scotia MP described his relations with Conservative Leader
Stephen Harper as "hunky-dory, everything's great - that's a good
Maritime phrase."
Forwarded Message

Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:14:47 -0800 (PST)

From: David Amos"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

Subject: Attn Don Amos

To: MEC.investors@magnaent.com, dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca,
smay@pattersonpalmer.ca

As I stated within an earlier email, Scott Daruty finally called me
back and pissed me off. He picked the wrong guy to try and toy with. I
will take up my concerns with Magna byway of Daruty and Cellucci down
here in the Yankee courts. I have much proof of what I sent Belinda
Stronach long before she ever became a Member of Parliament up home. I
will deal with her in a political fashion first to see if she is
interested in up holding the public trust while protecting her
interests in Magna. Good luck with your conscience as a lawyer named
Amos as you check my work. Here is my phone number 506 434-1379 if you
have any questions before deciding whether or not to uphold the law
and protect the investor's interests in Magna from my necessary civil
actions. I gave my material to Argeo P. Cellucci in Canada in July of
2002 before I sent the Sheriffs out with my first complaints. I know
by the fax numbers at the top of my first complaint that it was
Ashcroft and Cellucci that directed the US Attorney to try to make my
complaints evaporate. Now that Cellucci speaks for Magna and Belinda
speaks for Canadians there is a couple of Amos boys that should have
along talk about many things. But forget trying to label me as your
brother until I am assured of your integrity. I have a high contempt
towards lawyers and their sense of ethics for very justifiable
reasons.

Note: forwarded message attached.


----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca ; moto maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ;
kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; danthebagelman@msn.com ; info@electtomobrien.com ;
lcampenella@ledger.com ; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; newsonline@bbc.co.uk ;
Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ;
MEC.investors@magnaent.com
Cc: zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ; savoya2@parl.gc.ca ;
thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ;
martib@sen.parl.gc.ca ; dougchristielaw@shaw.ca ;
Mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ; Stephen.Murphy@ci.boston.ma.us ;
Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ; brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca ;
McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:14 PM
Subject: Shame on you Della


At least I am a man of my word. I called you personally as I stated I
would. I have the record of the call that I was directed to do by your
boss, Stevey Boy May. Too bad you would not speak to me to protect
your own interests. At least I have your signature because no word
from you is worthless to me. You can never claim ignorance of my
concerns after directing me to your lawyer. I stuck my hand out to you
as a layman but you had picked your friends the lawyers and had
enlisted them to bite it? Do you really Think I am afraid of dealing
with the likes of Johnny Crosbie and Stevey Boy May when I am
preparing a lawsuit against the likes of John Edwards, John Ashcroft
and Theodore Olson to name a few? Plus there is the irrefutable fact
that you and the law firm you work for have already admitted that you
are aware of the crimes practiced against me. You have done nothing to
uphold the law and have already filed the evidence of that fact in the
Newfoundland Supreme Court. Lady, either I or my estate will bankrupt
you and your firm with its own sworn testimony that you witnessed. You
can take that to the bank. The first question I must ask you Della
what did your law fir do with its copy of the police surveillance tape
# 139 and did you listen to it? You should not have because you are
not an officer of the court nor are you employed by law enforcement.
The Lieutenant Governor Roberts notified me that he had given his
copies of the material to Tommy Marshall to be investigated but I have
received no word from your law firm as to what the hell they did with
their copies. Have your lawyers explain their integrity to you because
you and I will never come to an understanding of ethical behavior
after your treatment of me today. I often sing the praises of Newfys
because they are amongst the nicest folks on the planet excepting of
course their lawyers and their cohorts such as you Della. By the way I
heard about the clerks in Supreme Court having a little wager over who
buys lunch if I managed to do what I said I would do. I would like to
meet the lady who felt I was as serious as a heart attack and willing
to buy lunch if I was not a man of my word. I would love to buy her
lunch some time because the courts need more folks like her in their
employment. She clearly did not disregard the word of a common man.
On the other hand after our exchange of the mere few words today it
would not be wise for me to trust your word or typing if I had left
the voicemail you desired. I have much evidence of many edited
transcripts of things I have said in the past. You and I will argue
them some day no doubt byway of your lawyer friends because I think
you don't speak pro se very well in order to protect your personal
interests. I just got off the phone with one of Frank Stronach's
Yankee lawyers Scott Daruty. He did me the service of really pissing
me off today by finally calling me back after I had torn a piece off
of Magna in Canada about his neglect of duty on their behalf. He
thought he was funny by joking that the Canadian lawyer, Don Amos was
my brother. No lawyer is a brother of mine. He thought I was joking
when I told him I would sue him personally if he did not uphold the
law and rat out Magna's brand new Vice President his brother, Argeo P.
Cellucci so I had to repeat myself so he would understand me in no
uncertain terms. I do make a lot of jokes about very serious business
however it would not be wise to underestimate my sincerity and attempt
to toy with me. I enjoy a good fight win or lose as long as I stand on
the right side of the battle. You just picked a fight with me lady on
a day when I ain't taking prisoners from lawyers or their cohorts. All
lawyers are liars and I have proven it. It is only laymen I will
settle with from now on and only if they tell the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth.
I don't care if your god helps you or not. We can all do it again in
hell for all I care.
From now on I must rely on hard copy of my own creation. For now I
will send you and Stevey Boy a bunch of emails that have been
forwarded to many other people first. I require the record of doing
so. Whereas I have no doubt Stevey Boy will wan to argue about the
emails I have already sent I figure why not be hung for a cow as a
calf? Since everything in heaven and hell is done in threes. I will
forward to Magna's lawyer, Don Amos, Stevey Boy and three large emails
that contain Tiff files. There is no need to be redundant with hard
copy already sent to Scott Daruty and Johnny Crosbie. You can tell the
folks at Patterson Palmer who directed you to offend me that the
emails contain exactly the same documents that Greg Byrne and Johnny
Crosbie received and that you should all prepare to argue every word
within in them. The first email contains a file called Big Day. It
contains every document I served upon Two Solicitors Generals Theodore
Olson and Anne McLellan before I ran for Parliament and Olson quit his
job on June 24th immediately after Johnny Crosbie told Stevey Harper
to shut up about the Arar Inquiry. the second file is called Big
Canada Add and it is a copy of the documents served upon my political
opponents while running for Parliament. Last but not least are what
was added to the first to pile of documents and then served upon
Patterson and Palmer by way of Greg Byrne.
Scott Daruty is receiving the documents within "Big Day" and other
interesting material that Magna should find quite interesting to say
the least. Magna really made my day when they appointed Cellucci and
their new VP. I is comical that he is going to lobby the government
about horse racing especially after listening to what is recorded on a
lot of the tapes and the fact that the top dog of the RCMP had to
teach that dumb Yankee how to ride a horse last summer so that he
would not make an ass out himself at the Calgary Stampede. This was
almost as rich as when Martin sent Franky McKenna to Washington after
he and I had a spit and chew about dogs and pork. At least I am clever
enough to realize when I am a lucky man and how to make the best out
of a golden opportunity to see that justice is served upon some very
nasty bastards. I am very pissed off but still having more fun than
ten men. I love cornering lawyers and listening to them stutter and
try to duck the issues. I will wager that you are having a bad day
too. EH Della? It looks good on you if you are. Why not get mad? I
hope you share your anger with the others at Patterson and Palmer and
start bitchin about me. Never forget all I want is the truth from you.
It will cost you nothing. Why do you want to stand with crooks and
liars for a days pay? I bet you have witnessed lots of dirty dealings.
I truly beleive that there is no honour in your work. To me working
for lawyers is like a lady being sent to a nunnery in Medieval times.
I share ol Shake's opinion of such a place. Times changes nothing
lawyers still work for Jesuits. Look around downtown St John's and
call me a liar. I dare ya. Even the name of the town says it all.
Cya'll in Court:)
David R. Amos

----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca ; moto maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ;
kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; danthebagelman@msn.com ; info@electtomobrien.com ;
lcampenella@ledger.com ; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; newsonline@bbc.co.uk ;
Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com
Cc: zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ; savoya2@parl.gc.ca ;
thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ;
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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:33 AM
Subject: RE: Me versus Patterson and Palmer


Hey Della,
I see that Stevey Boy is on vacation and told me to contact you. I am
happy to hear that he is saving all of my emails in a special spot for
some apparent future litigation. I keep very good records as well and
look forward to his argument but I will wager that I sue him first.
I see by the following Affidavit you witnessed and Stevey Boy filed in
court that every lawyer within Patterson Palmer is a flat out liar. I
served Greg Byryne in Fredericton myself with witnesses before Byron
Prior served everyone else in Newfoundland. If Byrne did not share the
info with his buddy Johnny Crosbie, it is not my fault. Yet I suspect
that he did so out of the gate because he sent me an email in which it
appears that he was conferring with many others about me and my
concerns. It was too funny that Byrne clicked the wrong button and
forwarded his email to me as well.
I also sent many of your people the same emails that I sent to Byrne
and May as soon as I got out off jail last October and Stevey Boy
first contacted Byron Prior and I had called him. (Thank you for
making a transcript of my voicemail and filing it in court for me. It
is quite hard for me to make lawyers even admit that I exist) Some of
the aforesaid emails were responded to by other members of your law
firm byway of their computers like Stevey Boy's just did. At least
computers are far more honest than the lawyers that own them. I am
compelled to rely on the integrity of their machines and the ability
of their computers and mine to keep perfect records. (Never forget I
am being prosecuted for sending an email to a lawyer I have been
litigating against for years who even went as far to fraudulently
create a document bearing my signature) Because of the fact I can
prove contact with many members of the law firm you work for, they can
never say that they did not know of my concerns and allegations long
before Stevey complained of Byron Prior's actions on behalf of his
client Billy Matthews. He only went forward with his malicious threat
when he thought my goose was cooked down here. There is quite simply
no way you could have prepared his filing on January 21st and he had
Judge green sign it in the time between Byron had served it and the
Judge signed it without the Bastards reading our private emails and
listening to our phone calls. I sent the last email containing the
words to Byron's counterclaim just before I went to court that morning
and he only managed to see it filed by 3 PM Newfy time. You may be a
fast typists but the courts don't work that fast unless they are
covering up something big time. No know as well as I that is true
because the judge and Stevey Boy do not even want other lawyers to
view the public record. Small wonder he took a vacation. If Stevey Boy
has any semblance of a conscience he no doubt has trouble dealing with
himself. I can only wonder if he and Johnny Crosbie are singing for
more tequila right now.
As you no doubt know I am preparing to defend myself in a criminal
trial in the USA and filing some rather profound civil lawsuits in
Canada and the USA that will make the whining of Billy Matthews in
Newfoundland Supreme court seem rather comical. I will be filing
copies of the documents you no doubt helped create for Stevey Boy May
on behalf of your law firm in many courts.
If Greg Byrne, the former Minister of Justice and Attorney General of
New Brunswick had acted ethically last September while I was in Canada
and under Brad Green's jurisdiction I would not have been falsely
imprisoned in the USA the following month. I will be suing him, your
law firm and many others for personal injury and conspiracy to cover
up the many crimes practiced against my Clan and I. My question to
you, Della is why don't I sue you too? As you can see if you have read
my work my battle is with corrupt lawyers not layman. I would settle
with you in a heartbeat for costs if you would be honest about all
that you know to be true. If you decide to go against me I suggest
that you seek legal counsel outside of your law firm or in fact all of
Newfoundland. I am about to take on every damned lawyer within the
Newfoundland law Society. You would not be wise to doubt me before you
have a look at my work in the USA. I will deal with Newfys under the
heading of fun after I have embarrassed the Yankees.
I will give you a call as Stevey Boy suggests so that at least you can
understand that I am not an unreasonable person and not the sort of
person that lawyers claim that I am. I am just a simple, sincere and
serious man that refuses to play the wicked games lawyers play. I am
willing to die in order to expose the truth. No lawyer can say that.
they love money to much to be willing to miss the chance to spend it.
Judge me for yourself and your own best interests before you choose
whom to stand with.
Whether you believe me or not I am battling for your rights as well as
my own. I am forwarding this email to many ordinary people like you
and me. To Hell with the lawyers and politicians. They do what they do
for personal gain not public service. Their concerns are lucre not
justice and everybody knows it. All I did was go to great lengths to
prove it. There is no need for you and I to argue about simple truths.
As far as I am concerned up until the time you received this email all
you have done is type things and witness signatures. However you
cannot say that anymore.
My pending phone call to you is not harassment. I need the Yankee
phone bill record of my call to you in order to assist in the defence
of my freedom in the USA. Stevey Boy told me to call ya. Please be
nice. After today you can't say that you are not involved in my false
imprisonment in the USA. I am doing no more or less than Stevey Boy
and his malicious clients would do if the same thing had happened to
them. If Billy Matthews had been summoned to the USA while he was
running for his seat in Parliament to be presecuted by an unsigned
criminal complaint and then held without bail under the charges of
"other", he would be more pissed off than I am.
Cya'll in Court:)
David R. Amos

----- Original Message -----
From: "May, Steve"
To: "David Amos"
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:32 PM
Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Dan and Tom Remember me


Mr. May is out of the office till 11 April 2005. He will not be
checking his e-mail. Please contact Della Hart at 709-570-5527 or
dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca if you require immediate assistance.


2005 01 T 0010
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR
TRIAL DIVISION
BETWEEN:
WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF
AND:
BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT

AND BETWEEN:
BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT/PLAINTIFF
BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF/FIRST DEFENDANT
BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: T. ALEX HICKMAN SECOND DEFENDANT
BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: THOMAS MARSHALL THIRD DEFENDANT
BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: DANNY WILLIAMS FOURTH DEFENDANT
BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: EDWARD M. ROBERTS FIFTH DEFENDANT
BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: JOHN CROSBIE SIXTH DEFENDANT
BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: PATTERSON PALMER SEVENTH DEFENDANT
BY COUNTERCLAIM
SUMMARY OF CURRENT DOCUMENTCourt File Number(s):2005 01 T 0010Date of
Filing of Document:25 January 2005Name of Filing Party or
Person:Stephen J. MayApplication to which Document being filed
relates:Amended Application of the Plaintiff/Defendant by Counterclaim
to maintain an Order restricting publication, to strike portions of
the Statement of Defence, strike the Counterclaim in it’s entirety,
and to refer this proceeding to case management.Statement of purpose
in filing:To maintain an Order restricting publication, to strike
portions of the Statement of Defence, strike the Counterclaim in its
entirety and refer this proceeding to case management.
A F F I D A V I T

I, Stephen J. May, of the City of St. John’s, in the Province of
Newfoundland and Labrador, Barrister and Solicitor, make oath and say
as follows:

THAT I am a Partner in the St. John’s office of PATTERSON PALMER
solicitors for William Matthews, the Member of Parliament for
Random-Burin-St. George’s in the Parliament of Canada.

THAT Mr. Matthews originally retained Mr. Edward Roberts, Q.C. on or
about 30 April 2002 after Mr. Byron Prior, the Defendant/Plaintiff by
Counterclaim, had made allegations against Mr. Matthews in a
publication called “My Inheritance - The truth - Not Fiction: A Town
with a Secret”. In that publication, the allegation was made that Mr.
Matthews had had sex with a girl who had been prostituted by her
mother. That girl was alleged to have been Mr. Prior’s sister.

THAT upon being retained, Mr. Edward Roberts wrote a letter to Mr.
Prior. That letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit “1" to my
Affidavit.

THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts’ letter to Mr. Prior, Mr. Roberts
received a 1 May 2002 e-mail from Mr. Prior. That e-mail is attached
as Exhibit “2".

THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts receipt of the e-mail, Mr. Prior swore
an Affidavit acknowledging that what had been said in that publication
was false. That Affidavit is attached as Exhibit “3" to my Affidavit.
Following Mr. Roberts’ receipt of that Affidavit, Mr. Matthews advised
that he was satisfied not to pursue the matter any further and our
firm closed our file.

THAT on or about 25 October 2004, I was retained by Mr. Matthews
following his gaining knowledge that a web site, made a series of
allegations against him relating to my having sex with a girl of
approximately 12 years old through to an approximate age of 15 years
old. It also accused him of being a father of one of her children and
accused him of having raped that girl. Upon checking the web site I
saw that Byron Prior, the Defendant, had been identified as the author
of the material on the site.

THAT Mr. Matthews instructed me to write Mr. Prior, to remind him of
the fact that the allegations had been admitted to being false through
a 16 May 2002 Affidavit to advise him of Mr. Matthews’ intentions to
commence legal proceedings if the comments were not removed from the
web site. A copy of my letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit “4"
to this Affidavit.

THAT I attach as Exhibit “5" a transcript from a 5 November 2004
voicemail left by David Amos, identified in the voicemail as a friend
of Mr. Prior.

THAT I attach as Exhibit “6" a portion of a 6 November 2004 e-mail
from Mr. Amos.

THAT until I received his voicemail and e-mail, I had never heard of Mr. Amos.

THAT Mr. Amos has continued to send me e-mail since his 5 November
e-mail. Including his 6 November 2004 e-mail, I have received a total
of 15 e-mails as of 23 January 2005. All do not address Mr. Matthews’
claim or my involvement as Mr. Matthews’ solicitor. I attach as
Exhibit “7" a portion of a 12 January 2005 e-mail that Mr. Amos sent
to me but originally came to my attention through Ms. Lois Skanes
whose firm had received a copy. This e-mail followed the service of
the Statement of Claim on 11 January 2005 on Mr. Prior. I also attach
as Exhibit “8" a copy of a 19 January 2005 e-mail from Mr. Amos.

THAT I attach as Exhibit “9" a copy of a 22 November 2004 letter
addressed to me from Edward Roberts, the Lieutenant Governor of
Newfoundland and Labrador covering a 2 September 2004 letter from Mr.
Amos addressed to John Crosbie, Edward Roberts, in his capacity as
Lieutenant Governor, Danny Williams, in his capacity as Premier of
Newfoundland and Labrador, and Brian F. Furey, President of the Law
Society of Newfoundland and Labrador. I requested a copy of this
letter from Government House after asking Mr. Roberts if he had
received any correspondence from Mr. Amos during his previous
representation of Mr. Matthews. He advised me that he received a
letter since becoming Lieutenant Governor, portions of which involved
his representation of Mr. Matthews. Mr. Roberts’ letter also covered
his reply to Mr. Amos.

THAT I attach as Exhibit “10" an e-mail from Mr. Amos received on
Sunday, 23 January 2005.

THAT I swear this Affidavit in support of the Application to strike
Mr. Prior’s counterclaim.


SWORN to before me at
St. John’s, Province of Newfoundland
and Labrador this 24th day of
January, 2005.


Signed by Della Hart STEPHEN J. MAY Signature
STAMP
DELLA HART
A Commissioner for Oaths in and for
the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.
My commission expires on December 31, 2009.
The Conservatives in Canada have very Punky Dory EH Tommy Boy?

Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:26 PM
The Cato dudes ain't got nothin on me when it comes to letter writing.
Here is where I am teasing abunch of dumb Yankees. The whole world
calls our Newfys dumb. So what does that say of Danny williams the
Premier? He is a Rhodes Scholar that works for free. Is he dumb or
evil? I will have to ask the Aspen Dudes have I attend Tommy's little
hoe down EH?

Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:38 PM
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2005/03/former_dhs_insp.html#comments
HMMM no link we will try this way ok?

Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:40 PM
I'm very proud to have had such a person as David Amos, help us with
our fight and the legal work. I will never be able to repay him.Thank
you David.
Byron Prior

Posted by: Byron Prior at August 21, 2005 10:59 PM
 

Americans living in Atlantic Canada expect higher voter turnout

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Methinks the FBI, IRS, CRA and RCMP already know that I called and Mark Feigenbaum's CEO talked with Solomon Yue Scottsdale AZ and talked of Form 211 and FATCA etc N'esy Pas?
 

 
 
 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/americans-living-in-atlantic-canada-expect-higher-voter-turnout-1.5766870

 

Americans living in Atlantic Canada expect higher voter turnout

'We have heard from people who haven’t voted in years,' says party organizer

 

Alexandre Silberman· CBC News· Posted: Oct 18, 2020 11:12 AM AT

 


Some U.S. citizens abroad can vote online, while others must send their ballots by mail. (Logan Cyrus/AFP/Getty Images)

When U.S. election results tick in, Atlantic Canada could have an impact.

Both Democrats and Republicans are pushing Americans and dual U.S. citizens living abroad to cast ballots in the presidential contest on Nov. 3.

Organizers in the Maritimes expect a high concentration of residents with citizenship to vote by mail and online for the first time, which they say could make a difference in highly contested battleground states.

Democrats Abroad has been making calls and mailing postcards to potential U.S. voters in Atlantic Canada. It has an estimated 1,100 registered members in the region.

Riley Nielson started the Atlantic chapter after moving to Halifax about a year and a half ago from Florida — a battleground state this year.

"There is such interest in this election, I think we're definitely going to see a huge influx of voters in Canada alone," they said.

Nielson is a dual citizen born in Halifax who uses the pronouns they and them. They said a large concentration of American citizens in the Maritimes are casting ballots in swing states that could make a difference.

"We have heard from people who haven't voted in years and one person who never voted before in his life and registered to vote for the first time," Nielsen said.

'This election is absolutely critical'

Rebecca Burns is originally from Charlotte, N.C., and moved to British Columbia with her Canadian husband seven years ago.

Burns voted from Fredericton, where she now lives and works as a nurse. She said she's met many Canadians who obtained dual citizenship through a parent and are less inclined to vote.

"I think that people recognize that this election is absolutely critical and I'm hoping that number will really increase this year," she said.


Rebecca Burns, a U.S. citizen, voted abroad for Democratic candidate Joe Biden. She currently lives in Fredericton where she works as a nurse. (Submitted by Rebecca Burns)

Michelle Sinville is a landed immigrant originally from New Hampshire, but now lives in Dartmouth, N.S. 

Sinville, who works as a pharmaceutical industry consultant, voted by email in Rhode Island, her last state of residence. She has helped other U.S. citizens who decided to vote from abroad for the first time after feeling "it was important to engage."

"I think that sentiment is going to be really common throughout other overseas voters," she said.

Michelle Sinville voted in Rhode Island by email from Dartmouth, N.S. (Submitted by Michelle Sinville)

Republican presence smaller

Mark Feigenbaum, a dual citizen who grew up in California, has been the chair of Republicans Overseas Canada since 2000.

"I would expect that it'll be a high turnout as it is across the entire United States," he said.

The organization does not have a local presence in the Atlantic provinces, but it has been working to inform people about their right to vote and help them navigate the process.

Feigenbaum, a Toronto cross-border tax lawyer, thinks the Maritimes might have a large concentration of U.S. citizens.

 

Mark Feigenbaum is a Toronto lawyer and the chair of the Canadian chapter of ‘Republicans Overseas.’ He votes in California. (Nick Purdon/CBC)

But he said it's impossible to know just how many people vote from Canada since ballots are cast in individual states.

"There's a whole bunch of different requirements in different counties and different states, and I think some of that has to relate to why the number might be lower than you think," he said.

Low turnout abroad

There's about 620,000 Americans living in Canada that are eligible to vote in the presidential election.

But it's difficult to pinpoint just how many are located in the Atlantic Provinces. While Statistics Canada found more than 17,700 residents in the region were born in the U.S., that figure leaves out many Canadian-born dual citizens.

New Brunswick is home to the most American-born residents in the region, with about 7,600 reported in the most recent census.

Turnout for voters abroad in Canada is traditionally low. A survey by the U.S. Federal Voting Assistance Program found only about five per cent of eligible voters cast ballots in 2016.

 

Members of the Atlantic Provinces chapter of Democrats Abroad watch the results of the party's global presidential primary. (Submitted by Riley Nielson)

Democrats Abroad attributes that to lack of awareness among dual citizens, especially those who moved across the border at a young age. Voters abroad might also be worried about taxes, said Nielson.

"A lot of people are concerned because they haven't paid their taxes, though there's no case of the IRS ever going after an expat for voting," they said.

In most states, citizens who were born abroad and never lived in the U.S. are still eligible to vote by absentee at the address where a parent lived. 

U.S. expats remain eligible to vote in elections regardless of how long they have lived in Canada or elsewhere abroad.

About the Author

Alexandre Silberman is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. He can be reached at alexandre.silberman@cbc.ca

 

 

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David Amos 
Content disabled
Welcome to the circus that plays out on both sides of the medicine line every day all day long 







David Amos  
Methinks the FBI, IRS, CRA and RCMP already know that I called and Mark Feigenbaum's CEO talked with Solomon Yue Scottsdale AZ and talked of Form 211 and FATCA etc N'esy Pas? 
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: HUh ???
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Lou Bell: Or as most Canadians would say " Yue who !! ???? "
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks it was comical that just like YOU MR YUE had NO CLUE where New Brunswick is let alone WHO YOU are However trust that he and his lawyer buddiea on both sides of the 39th and worldwide as well will have a hard time forgetting me because FATCA litigation that you have teased me about in the past. I must also say that even though everybody knows YOU live to spread the DOO DOO in NB for Higgy et al just like the loyal little CoRservative MAGGY aka JOS constantly says YOU are, Believe YOU me not many Martimers now how many Yankee politicians, lawyers and cops etc I have sent your words to but I trust that after your nap anda few butter tarts you at least come to an understanding as why the RCMP, Higgy and his old boss David Alward no doubt do N"esy Pas LOU?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
amy kramer
Why would an American want to live in Canada?
 
 
Nova Mann
Reply to @amy kramer: Why wouldn't they? Right now if I were a US citizen, living in the US, I'd be begging to live in Canada.
 
 
amy kramer
Reply to @Nova Mann: Interesting perspective. I have exactly the opposite view. Canada is a broken federation. And Canadians are just frightened people.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @amy kramer: My Canadian girlfriend didn't want to live in the States. I'd traveled in Canada, I could easily see myself living here *plus* I'd have far better access to healthcare. 22 years later, I can say that I made an excellent choice. The GF is long gone, but my relationship with Canada has proven long-lasting and rewarding in many ways.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @amy kramer: Given what's going on in the States right now, I wouldn't say that the American federation is doing all that well either.
 
 
amy kramer
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Good for you. But Canada is a broken federation. And Canada's healthcare system is a disaster, extremely inefficient and the most costly in the world. LOLMU
 
 
Raymond Lee
Reply to @amy kramer: Why does anyone want to live in Canada? It's very obvious for those of us who have tasted the "milk and honey". Americans? All they know about Canada is "igloos". So don't advertise it too much because they like to have an escape from themselves.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @amy kramer: Try living in the States without employer-provided health insurance and then get back to me on that. I've done that. I've also lived in Canada for 22 years, during which I've had a cataract in one eye, cancer and a cancer recurrence. Canada's healthcare system has come through for me every time.
 
 
amy kramer
Reply to @Raymond Lee: I find Canadians far more ignorant of the rest of the world.
 
 
amy kramer
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: We'll just have agree to strongly disagree on this matter. Canada is a disaster.
 
 
Lana MacLeod
Reply to @amy kramer: You can't fathom that anyone might have a different viewpoint than your own. That is ignorance.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @amy kramer: Agreed re: strong disagreement. Certainly, however, I've answered your initial question, why would an American want to live in Canada? The answer is that not everyone - and not all Americans - agree with your assessment that Canada is a disaster.
 
 
John Montgomery
Reply to @amy kramer: Search on "Adopted home: The journey to Canada". Many CFL stars from America decide to stay here, they give their reasons.
 
 
John Montgomery
Reply to @amy kramer: Canadians have a much longer life span.
 
 
John Montgomery
Reply to @John Montgomery: Canadians don't have to worry about their kids getting shot in school.
 
 
amy kramer
Reply to @Lana MacLeod: I can tell you're a Liberal due to your intolerance of any views different than yours. LOLMU
 
 
amy kramer
Reply to @John Montgomery: Not my concern. I'm healthy.
 
 
John Montgomery
Reply to @amy kramer: You have a crystal ball too?
 

Lana MacLeod
Reply to @amy kramer: Not at all. Also, look up the definition of intolerance. You're using it wrong.
 
 
ralph jacobs
Reply to @amy kramer:
We do have a leader who is trying to destroy the country just like they have.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @amy kramer: Your health doesn't matter if someone pulls out a gun and starts shooting at random.
 
 
John Montgomery
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Or a car accident, or a unfortunate selfie dive off a cliff.. No one is invulnerable.
 
 
Neil Bryan 
Reply to @amy kramer: Your responses to those answering your question are full of fa lse information.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @John Montgomery: True, but I'm not sure that unfortunate selfie dives off cliffs happen at a higher rate per capita in the States vs in Canada. We have a lot of cliffs where I live.
 
 
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @amy kramer: Where do you live?
 
 
amy kramer
Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Canada for parts of the year and the US for parts of the year.
 
 
Larry Falk 
Reply to @amy kramer: - Why pray tell do you live in Canada..................
 
 
Larry Falk 
Reply to @amy kramer: - Spreading the "Honey" again aren't cha..............
 
 
Bob Roberts
Reply to @amy kramer: You should probably stay in 'Murica. You clearly belong there.
 

Larry Falk
Reply to @Bob Roberts: - She is a disturber..does it all the time...............
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @amy kramer: Probably to rid themselves of all the car az ee H8 ers , especially the trumpers . Have you npt listened to trump for the last 4 years ??? Canada , as well as the rest of the world aren't blinded by the negative , " R " words coming out of Trump . America is 5 % of the worlds population and the other 95 % can't all be wrong wouldn't you say ?? Americans ( those condoning and endorsing Trump and his H8 speeches ) self entitled ignorance of others on the planet is so transparent !
 
 
Michel Forgeron 
Reply to @amy kramer: We certainly are frightened of our neighbour to the south. Not the country nor the people, just one of them.
 
 
Michel Forgeron 
Reply to @amy kramer: That's a stretch. Ignorance is in the way the US is turning its back on longtime friends like Canada and European countries. Now Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Russia are Trump's best buddies. It just frustrates him to no end that he can't have absolute power like them.
 
 
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @amy kramer: You've just nailed the typical American reply. Translates as "What, you can't afford medical treatment? Too bad, die"
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @John Montgomery: The École Polytechnique massacre happened while was living in the US of A EH? 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell:  Methinks many would agree that  "self entitled ignorance" is an interesting  expression for you to employ N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Will Leeson
My fellow Canadians are largely clueless when it comes to politics... just look at the state of our own.
 
 
John Montgomery
Reply to @Will Leeson: I'm happy that I voted for the party that saved the lives of thousands of Canadians. Obviously it could have gone the other way.
 
 
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @Will Leeson: It's not only politics. The evidence is in plain view daily in the comments on any story here.
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Will Leeson: Well at least your friends !
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Will Leeson: You mean the anti maskers ! You're right , they are c..eless.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should look in the mirror many have in fact have said the same of you N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @John Montgomery: Now if that doesn't sound like trump....I saved millions with my very late action....lol. True lpc hardcore.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
mike mcrobie
America is probably the most backward country on earth.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @mike mcrobie: Dunno about "most". Compare, for example, Saudi Arabia and the way women are treated there.
 
 
Donald Smith 
Reply to @mike mcrobie: That must be why so many from Saint John go down there to buy stuff Mike.
 
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Look at how trump treats women ! Billy Bush could confirm he's no better !
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: The Republican mantra is " the place for a woman is in the kitchen and in the bedroom " . That is well known and quite obvious
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Cry me a river
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Kashoggi wasn't treated well either, and he " was " a male.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Donald Gordon Mann
Really, who cares?
 
 
Robert Furlong
Reply to @Donald Gordon Mann: You.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Robert Furlong: Me Too
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Robert Furlong
Just another reach around puff piece about how much better Canada is than the U.S.
Per capita we are a world leader in amount of taxes sheltered off shore.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Furlong: BINGO
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
Reply to @Robert Furlong: Yes, and no racism here either, just ask the ns lobsterfishers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Executive Order Tax Regulatory Relief for Overseas Americans


Dear Mark:
 

At the 2016 Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio, representatives of Republicans Overseas discussed with you the plight of more than 9 million Americans living overseas who are being harmed by the consequences of the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA) implemented during the Obama-Biden Administration. This statute has caused immeasurable harm to loyal American citizens residing abroad, as you learned during the landmark hearings that you organized as Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Government Operations in April 2017. Today, overseas Americans are not only seeing their lives embittered by FATCA, but as an unintended result of the President’s Tax Cut and Jobs Act of 2017, they find themselves subject to new taxes and an even more onerous set of compliance obligations.


President Trump recently signed a series of Executive Orders designed to alleviate the burdens imposed by the payroll tax and other federal regulations administered by the Treasury Department and the IRS. Republicans Overseas applauds the President’s initiatives given the Democrats’ intransigence and political opportunism.


We propose that the President sign Executive Orders to relieve the suffering of overseas Americans in a manner that is fully in line with your America First agenda and with the RNC 2016 Platform. The implementation in 2010 of FATCA has made it impossible for many overseas Americans to live a normal life. This has resulted in a 2400% increase in citizenship renunciations in the first half of 2020 as compared to 2008. One of the President’s second-term agenda items is to “End Bureaucratic Government Bullying of U.S. Citizens and Small Businesses”. This executive order would indeed end the regulatory tyranny currently being imposed on overseas Americans.

The President could issue Executive Orders in 2020 to investigate and end punitive regulations levied on overseas American citizens and businesses. Specifically, these Orders would:


a. Exempt overseas American small businesses from having to comply with the Transition Tax and GILTI tax. While these taxes were aimed at incentivizing large corporations to repatriate profits accumulated overseas, the TCJA 2017 inadvertently applied these new taxes and regulations to small privately owned businesses causing them to incur huge compliance costs. Exempting small businesses meeting specific criteria (outlined in a draft executive order in Appendix A) would remove a harmful burden from overseas American entrepreneurs.


b. Create a Commission on Americans Overseas to investigate the burdens caused by citizenship-based taxation and onerous regulation. America is one of only two nations that taxes its citizens based on citizenship (the other being Eritrea). This double taxation makes overseas Americans and overseas American businesses much less competitive than their foreign counterparts. Overseas American entrepreneurs face double business taxation due to their citizenship from which corporations are exempt. In 2018, Representative George Holding (R – NC) introduced bill H.R. 7358 – Tax Fairness For Americans Abroad Act. This bill utilized existing tax law but re-classified tax-compliant overseas Americans as non-resident foreigners for the duration of their overseas stay. Income earned overseas was exempt from US taxation, while income earned in the US was taxed at the usual rates.
FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act) has cost businesses hundreds of billions of dollars in compliance fees while also costing everyday overseas Americans access to basic financial services and retirement plans. Enforcing FATCA requires the implementation of intergovernmental agreements with countries to collect financial data from overseas American citizens and transfer it to the IRS. The legislation essentially makes foreign governments extensions of the IRS, even when they are hostile nations such as China or Venezuela. Moreover, as Senator Rand Paul has testified at your 2017 hearings, FATCA is a blatant infringement of the privacy rights of millions of Americans abroad and at home. The IRS has spent more than $380 million from 2010 through 2018 in preparing to enforce FATCA but has not recovered any money. Traditional IRS methods for locating tax cheats are more efficient and effective and do not infringe on American citizens’ rights to privacy and due process.

 Overseas Americans yearn to be freed from the burdens of double taxation and excessive regulation. Suspending FATCA and exempting small businesses from the Transition and GILTI regulations would definitely be putting Americans First.


We can provide further documentation and evidence as required, and we have included specific proposals with regards to the regulations in appendices.


We greatly appreciate your consideration of these issues and hope that you will be able to lift the burden off the shoulders of nine million overseas Americans.


Sincerely.
Solomon Yue
CEO & VP Republicans Overseas

 

John Richardson Republicans Overseas Chair – Canada


Marc Zell Republicans Overseas VP and General Counsel
Republicans Overseas Chair - Israel


Randy Yaloz Republicans Overseas Chair – France
 

Sarah Elliott Republicans Overseas Chair – United Kingdom
 

Kevin Crowley Republicans Overseas Chair - Switzerland
 

Alan Seigrist Republicans Overseas Chair – Hong Kong
 

Mark Crawford Republicans Overseas Chair - Albania
 

Roger Johnson Republicans Overseas Chair – Czech Republic
 

Kerry Reddington Republicans Overseas Chair - Germany
 

Jonathan Constantine Republicans Overseas Chair – Greece


Ed Flaherty Former Republicans Overseas Legal Counsel- Switzerland


Nancy Galan Republicans Overseas Chair - Italy


Lance Gatlin Republicans Overseas Chair – Japan


Larry Rubin Republicans Overseas Chair – Mexico


David Meredith Republicans Overseas Chair - Qatar


Tina Datta Republicans Overseas Chair – Singapore


Katie Hagstrom Republicans Overseas Chair - Sweden


Tony Rodriguez Republicans Overseas Chair – Thailand


Joe Beydoun Republicans Overseas Chair – United Arab Emirates


Vincent Kobler Republicans Overseas Chair - Vietnam


APPENDIX A – DRAFT EXECUTIVE ORDER 

DRAFT EXECUTIVE ORDER ON PROMOTING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY ABROAD AND GRANTING RELIEF TO OVERSEAS AMERICANS. 

SUBJECT: Promoting the American Economy Overseas 

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows: 

Section 1. Policy. An estimated 9,000,000 patriotic Americans residing overseas are invaluable cultural and economic ambassadors for the United States. For too long, the value of Americans overseas has not been duly recognized or utilized. Indeed, for decades, Americans overseas have suffered from wave after wave of federal laws and regulations that have disrupted their basic financial and banking lives, creating endless and needless obstacles for their daily existence. Our goal must be to leverage this great asset for the benefit of our country. To that end, today I direct the Secretary of the Treasury and the Small Business Administration to carry out the following actions. Section 2. Transition Tax and GILTI. The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby directed to use his authority pursuant to 26 U.S.C. §965(o), 26 U.S.C. §7805(a) and 5 U.S.C. §604 to exempt small businesses, as defined in the Small Business Act, from the Transition Tax (IRC 965) and GILTI (IRC 951A), effective retroactively December 22, 2017. Section 3. Commission on Americans Overseas (“Commission”). The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby directed to establish a bipartisan Commission to examine the difficulties faced by Americans overseas with regard to the Internal Revenue Code and Foreign Accounting Tax Compliance Act (FATCA). The Commission consist of nine (9) members and shall include no less than two (2) members selected from the community of Americans overseas. The Commission shall carefully balance the legitimate goals of the U.S. Government, on the one hand, with unnecessary harm that many Americans overseas may be suffering as a result of these laws and regulations. The Commission shall publicly report its findings, together with concrete recommendations as to how laws, rules and regulations can be enforced to achieve their legitimate goals without causing undue harm to Americans overseas. Sec. 4. Export of American Goods and Services. The export of American goods and services abroad is of vital importance to the U.S. economy. American small business owners abroad can and should be utilized to promote US-based experts. Accordingly, both the Secretary of the Treasury and Small Business Administration shall convene an advisory working group together with select American business representatives in the U.S. and abroad to consider and implement cost-effective streamlined tools that can increase American exports.

 This Executive Order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers or employees.

APPENDIX B – ENDING CITIZENSHIP-BASED TAXATION THROUGH TREASURY REGULATIONS
Treasury has the authority to exempt Americans abroad from taxation on their non-U.S. income.
The basis for taxation of US expats is Section 1 of the 1913 Internal Revenue Code (“IRC”) which imposes taxation on every “individual”.
Treasury can through regulation under Section 1 of the IRC “exclude” certain classes of people from the definition of “individual”.
The word “individual” is extremely broad.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/1
Treasury in its regulations for Section 1 restricts the definition of “individual” to “citizen or resident”. Specifically, the regulation reads in part:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.1-1 (1) Section 1 of the Code imposes an income tax on the income of every individual who is a citizen or resident of the United States
Notably U.S. “nationals” are excluded from this definition. By excluding “nationals”, Treasury has demonstrated a willingness to define “individual” in a way that excludes certain kinds of “individuals” from U.S. worldwide taxation. It is submitted that Treasury has the power to exclude Americans abroad, who meet the residence requirements for the Section 911 Foreign Earned Income exclusion, from worldwide taxation.


Our suspicion is that at the time this regulation was enacted that, for all practical purposes:
1. Citizen was equivalent to resident; and
2. The word “resident” was included to ensure that noncitizens who had a sufficient connection to the United States were treated for tax purposes as citizen/residents. To put it another way: The original intent of the regulation may have envisioned “residence-based taxation”.


Therefore, to end citizenship-based taxation, "individual" in Section 1 of the 1913 Internal Revenue Code shall be defined by the IRS as a legal resident of the United States, and therefore, only individuals who are legally resident in the US shall be subject to taxation under the IRC. This potential change would not impact on taxation of income generated in the US by non-resident citizens or aliens.

 

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Methinks the RCMP shill aka "Ray Oliver' who may be a relative to the Speaker who lives in my neck of the woods should explain why I would not put my name on a ballot and play a part in Higgy's circus N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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With 3 students, a New Brunswick island school faces an uncertain future

Isolated White Head Elementary is the province's smallest school

 

Alexandre Silberman· CBC News· Posted: Oct 18, 2020 8:00 AM AT

 


Barry Russell stands outside White Head Elementary, the smallest school in New Brunswick. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

When Barry Russell attended White Head Elementary School in the 1950s, he had about 20 classmates to play with on  the field.

"At recess you'd go outside and play when the weather was good," he said. "We played ball alongside the school."  

But today, with an enrolment of just three, the tiny island school has more swings than students. The playground is quiet, a sign of the times on White Head Island.

The remote fishing community in the Bay of Fundy is only about six square kilometres in size, and one of the hardest places to reach in the province. Located off the southeastern tip of Grand Manan, it takes two ferry rides to reach the island from mainland New Brunswick. 

A little more than 100 people call White Head home and its dwindling school is the smallest in the province. With enrolment dropping into the single digits, it faces an uncertain future. 

Once-thriving fishery

Some residents can recall a time when nearly 500 people lived on the island.

Duane Banks is a third-generation White Head Islander. His grandparents relocated from Nova Scotia in the early 1900s to be close to prosperous fishing grounds.

The waters at the time were teeming with scallops, lobster, pollock, cod, herring and halibut. 

"The fishing grounds were so rich here," he said. "Back then the fish used to school right out of water — it was unbelievable."

Duane Banks is a third-generation resident of White Head Island. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

The shores of White Head were surrounded by fish plants, lobster pounds and seafood operations. Fishing is still the main way to earn a living, but the industry is mostly reduced to lobster.

Banks, now 50, said it was a special place to grow up, with plenty of work, many kids around and "no shortage" of things to do.

"It was nice. It was a close-knit community, almost like a big family."

'So cold we'd go home'

Russell, 73, is a retired lobster fisherman and also a third-generation islander. His grandmother moved from the Fredericton area for a teaching job, married and never left.

When Russell attended the elementary school, it was a wooden, two-storey building, kept warm — or as best as possible — with an oil space heater. 

In those early years, there was no insulation and no indoor plumbing. 

"We sat at our desk with our jackets on, our ski pants, our boots, our mittens," he said. "And then when you get just so cold, we'd go home."


The remote fishing community of White Head Island a ferry ride away from the southeastern tip of Grand Manan. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

After completing Grade 6, Russell and his classmates moved on to high school on Grand Manan. There was no car ferry in those years, so a lobster boat — captained by his grandfather — brought the kids across on their way to class.

"We went to school in all kinds of weather," Russell said. "Woke up in the morning, listened, hoped it was blowing hard so you didn't have to go."

Each time a storm would start to roll in, the high school announced early dismissals for White Head students, giving them time to reach home before the sea became too rough. 

White Head Island is connected to Grand Manan by a 25-minute ferry ride. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

All grades in one room

The current White Head Elementary School is a small building with blue metal siding, set back on a hill overlooking the ocean.

It's similar to a modern version of the one-room schoolhouse, with two classroom areas divided by a library space in the middle. 

The teacher and three students now at the school could not be interviewed.

Wesley Silliker is the principal of both the Grand Manan Community School and White Head Elementary. He said the small school offers a special experience that is hard to find these days.

"You grow up with your classmates, I think that's something that you would miss out on in a bigger school," Silliker said. "There's a certain beauty to it that you wouldn't get in other places."

The school began to offer kindergarten in the early 1990s, further expanding the age range in the room.


With just three children enrolled this fall, White Head Elementary School has more swings than students. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)
 

When Banks was a student, he said, it was "kind of intimidating" at first to be in the same room as classmates from Grades 1 to 6.

"You got to experience a little bit of everything, not just people your own age — you were also right there with people six years older than you," he said.

Banks's two children also attended the school. His daughter moved away to Saint John, where she works as a nurse, and his 19-year-old son still lives on the island and fishes with him.

Unique teaching challenge

Melanie Colwell was Banks's teacher. Starting out in 1973, she taught every grade and later worked as a supply teacher and education assistant. 

"Eventually when numbers got small enough, all the grades were in one classroom and you just circled around the room as if you were teaching groups of children," she said.

During Colwell's time working at the school, enrolment reached as high as 21 students. But in her final year, there were just seven students and there was no one in Grade 1.

Colwell, 67, said the combined grades allowed students to excel and learn quickly. When younger students finished assignments, they would listen to lessons for the older grades.


Faced with declining enrolment, the Anglophone South School District moved older grades from White Head Elementary to Grand Manan in recent years. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

When Stephanie Fitzsimmons was at the school between 2003 and 2010, she was one of two teachers in the building along with an education assistant for 8 to 10 students.

Fitzsimmons lived on Grand Manan and would take the ferry to work each day. When it stopped running because of a mechanical problem, residents found a ride home for her in a fishing boat.

"The community was really supportive," she said. "If there was anything we ever needed they would kick in and fundraise for it."

Having the same students for many years led to strong connections. 

"You kind of got to be family with them."

'I don't see any future'

White Head Island has lost services in recent years.

The J.F. Morse and Son General Store was the meeting place of the community and sold everything from gas and groceries, to fresh meat and hardware supplies. It closed a few years ago. 

With the general store gone, the elementary school is the centre of the community, hosting Christmas concerts and annual picnics.

 
It was a big loss for White Head Island residents when the only general store and gas station closed a few years ago. It was located in the green building on the left. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

It's not the most convenient life. Buying groceries, seeing a doctor, or getting gas all require a ferry ride to Grand Manan. But to islanders — it is home. 

"It's peaceful, it's beautiful here," Colwell said. "You can hike, you can swim, you can do a lot of different things, kayak boat, go whale watching -- things that you don't normally get to do on the mainland."

Our way of life may disappear.
- Resident Duane Banks

White Head still has a small post office, but there are concerns it could be turned into mailboxes. Some fear the school could be next — a devastating blow to the island's future.

"I don't see any future for it really because there's no new kids coming, no new families coming," Banks said. "It's sad really, it's a part of the culture here."

Protected by geography

Faced with declining enrolment, the Anglophone South School District moved older grades to Grand Manan in recent years after receiving permission from parents. 

Now the school only offers kindergarten to Grade 4.But the island's geography might protect it in the short term.

Rob Fowler, the chair of the District Education Council, said it's challenging to speculate what might happen if enrolment drops lower or there are no more kids coming up. 

With municipal elections postponed, the council is in a transition phase, and there are no immediate plans that could impact the school. 

"If they were just down the street from another school it'd be a no brainer," Fowler said. "But you take that ferry ride into consideration and the age of the children — that's not anything anybody wants to get into."


Barry Russell said he is keeping his fingers crossed the island's school stays open. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

Russell, a lifelong resident, agreed.

"We're keeping our fingers crossed, I think everybody on the island," he said. "I would hate to see it close."

At his kitchen table, Banks looks out at the ferry landing and shuttered general store. The way of life he once knew may never be the same. 

"To me, it feels like it's going to be like it was on Wood Island, eventually the government stepped in and moved everybody off," he said.

"When you think about it, there's only a hundred people here. It costs the government a lot of money to maintain roads and stuff like that. Our way of life may disappear."

About the Author

Alexandre Silberman is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. He can be reached at alexandre.silberman@cbc.ca

 

 

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David Amos
"Melanie Colwell was Banks's teacher. Starting out in 1973, she taught every grade and later worked as a supply teacher and education assistant.

"Colwell, 67, said the combined grades allowed students to excel and learn quickly. When younger students finished assignments, they would listen to lessons for the older grades."

I truly believe this school should stay open until there is no students thirsty for an education. Cardy can find lots of money to build brand new schools in his neighbourhood and Moncton. Hence he can also find a little money to keep the lights and heat on in the Island's school .

FYI My Father attended just such a school in the 1920s. His teacher diligently taught him everything she could in jig time. Apparently she made quite an impression because he wished to become a teacher too. in return she made arraignments and had him sent to the Normal School in Fat Fred City which granted him a teaching certificate Back the 1960s when my Father was New Brunswick's Tax Supervisor need i say that he got a kick out off my brother and I attending grade 10 in what is now the Justice Building which is the very same spot that Higgy won't replace in order to save our tax funds? Many years later my Father's first teacher attended his funeral. Need i say i was very impressed with the Lady too?

Perhaps with Lady Luck on their side the young ones on White Head are receiving right now the same sort of education Melanie Colwell gave in her youth and that my Father got nearly a 100 years ago. Methinks Higgy's opposition should at least agree that tradition still has its place in their notion of the 'Place To Be" even though they hate our river ferries for some strange reason i will never understand N'esy Pas?
 
 
Joseph Godin
Reply to @David Amos: Who cares?
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: 3 students ! With ideas like " I truly believe the school should stay open " it's no wonder you didn't even get the 25 people who signed your nomination papers to vote for you . Time to get outta rthe 1800's and living off other people's dime !
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Obviously the school was no longer the " normal school " when you attended .
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks they should up the ante to move there, they already heavily subsidize the place to thin the gene pool hahahah
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Joseph Godin: Methinks you are from Quebec N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Joseph Godin: I do. 
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks the RCMP shill who claims to be related to the Speaker and lives in our neck of the woods can explain why I would not put my name on a ballot and play a part in Higgy's circus N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
"Our way of life may disappear"

Too late.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: The fat lady ain't sung yet methinks if the economy collapses bigtime some of us my recall what our forefathers taught us N"esy Pas?
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
If you haven't noticed the economy is collapsing. Once the antiques are gone, (those who recall what our forefathers taught us) we are leaving a whole crop of consumers, with the wealth concentrated in the hands of the very few.
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
An economy is the large set of inter-related production and consumption activities that aid in determining how scarce resources are allocated. In an economy, the production and consumption of goods and services are used to fulfill the needs of those living and operating within it.

"The Economy" has stopped serving the majority of us for quite some time now, so, for most, it either does not exist, or has collapsed. That leaves only rich folks, or a minority, being served by "the economy"
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: My seed should be grateful to have the right to live in the Maritimes. long after I am pushing up daises. I have enough faith in the future to know that my kids and grand-babies can always can have a horse and a cow or two and have gardens, cold cellars, outhouses and wells with hand pumps just like my parents and many of our relatives did out the back roads of Dorchester and Bayfield NB. They still play in what is left of the woods as they learn to have fun doing a little hunting. fishing, snaring rabbits and falling a few trees for heat. They can learn to raise chickens, pigs, goats, beef, and pick blueberries strawberries, raspberries and apples etc while learning to make bread jams and jellies do some bottling. Then they can always look forward to enjoying the fruits of their labours through long winter nights by reading poems and books aloud and singing and dancing to a fiddle or guitar or piano or all three .Methinks none of this is rocket science to learn. Even if I am not around to help out I can leave them with my pigheaded Maritimer genes, the right attitude and some dirt with our roots to start planting seeds in again N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: "POOF"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Got to visit a fair bit, as it was part of my " territory " when I worked for the telco. Nice little island, and what a view out over the Atlantic from the back side. One thing I remember vividly, was the number of jets in the air heading up the U.S coast, before making the turn across the pond. Literally one after the other. As fate had it I was over there the morning of 911 training a newbie, and I commented to him, " that's odd, normally the air is filled with jetliners ". It wasn't long before an islander pulled up to where we were working and said, " you guys got the radio on ". "Nope, why ? ""New York is under attack! ". Never forget it.
 
 
David Peters
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
There's a lot less jets flying now, since this virus scare, as well. Might be a good thing, as with over 3 Billion traveling/yr by plane, that was definitely a dangerous thing to do, in regards to spreading infectious disease.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: FYI Back then I was camped just south of Beantown under the flight path into Logon from the ocean and less than a mile from the constant hum of the expressway out of Dodge. Every day all day long one could look up see one plane after anothe.r Need i say it got kinda spooky for 3 days or so when one could hear the birds tweeting until a low flying a helicopter or fighter would disturb their singing?
 
 
Joseph Godin
Reply to @David Amos: Why should people care what you think?
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to @David Amos: Ah , now I see . Too many beans can have a longlasting effect on ones thinking .
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: A story today about the Blue Herons and their migration habits and how they seemed to be disappearing along the coast of Maine only to appear in NB and along the eastern coast . So that explains how you came to be back here . Feeling blue ?
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Joseph Godin: Most of us do.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Thanks
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks I should not be surprised that you would take a interest in a blue bird that has the same name as your favourite Prime Minister N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Joseph Godin: Why should I worry about nasty comments and dumb questions from the French sheople such a you and little Lou? Do teel did you two deem it wise to tease me in this thread after so many of my other words had evaporated? Its hard telling not knowing for sure how many folks in southern NB would care about why I would find a little fun responding to a nasty French dude whom I suspect came down from Quebec to take advantage of the bilingual rules in our neck of the words. However I do know why I don't care what you think and I suspect that Higgy et al, their pals the PANB and all their old CoR Party buddies feel the same. I bet that some folks are no doubt chuckling as they read these words about you in my blog. I do know that the clown Cardy who tries to appear to be oh so proper after he has partaken of too many butter tarts with little Lou must admit that he enjoys poking holes in the stuffed shirts of SANB Sheople.

Methinks even your little blue coated buddy Lou who is French as well would agree that bursting the RED SANB balloons is a very comical part of Higgy's circus N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lavern Hamm
It sounds like utopia for the residents and students. If We weren't so old, we could live there, if they would have us.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Lavern Hamm: I second that emotion 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Matt Steele
Interesting that an Island with a 100 people has a ferry service ; and yet the folks of Campobello have to travel into the U.S. in order to get off of the Island during the winter months .
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Matt Steele: Go Figure
 
 
Johnny Jakobs 
Reply to @Matt Steele: Your not suppose to draw that connection. "Keep your head down and go back to work" says the govern ment.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
John Grail
I hope fishing as a whole is on its way out...
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @John Grail:
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It's hard to tell what you mean. We've got it pretty well fished out as far as commercial fishery. For the most part, the collection of sea bugs is all that remains, maybe some scallops, maybe a bit of bait fishery. That is why this community is slowly disappearing.
 
 
Jim Dandy
Reply to @John Grail: My dad was a commercial fisherman along the north shore of Lake Superior. It is a unique way of life and if managed properly is sustainable.
 
 
Dan Lee
Reply to @Jim Dandy:
i have fished lobster...salmon....oysters......cod......loopholes by fishermen are whats killing fisheries.....2 or 3 licenses by same fisherman........differant traps.......differant sizes between N-B and p.e.i......dissapearance of small ones......yea you know what i mean
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @John Grail: Hmmm
 
 
Lieschen Mueller
Reply to @John Grail: So will you support ex fishermen financially?? Probably not ...
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
Reply to @John Grail: Spoken like a true vegan.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
SarahRose Werner
"When you think about it, there's only a hundred people here. It costs the government a lot of money to maintain roads and stuff like that. Our way of life may disappear." - I applaud this gentleman's acceptance of realities.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Go Home Yankee
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOhn D Bond
While very quaint and traditional, given the hue and cry we hear from all the experts, one would think that socializing with only 3 other children falls a tad short of all the hullabaloo we are being told about. The importance of opening up schools for children not only for the education but for the socializing and interpersonal skills development.
My guess is that this little school will soon disappear, forget the cost, the EXPERTS will tell them it is harmful for the kids. lol
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Methinks not all of us are laughing with you N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Joseph Godin
At least alcohol is still available. I say that no sober individual would lay a strip on pavement with their "pick 'em up truck" as you can see from one of the photos. Gee I wonder who it could be?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Joseph Godin: Who cares?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell
3 kids ? Time to cut the one teacher from the payroll and home school 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Cry me a river
 
 
Joseph Godin
Reply to @: Time to change your diaper. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Methinks Mikey Bryant and his buddy Cara Zwibel would have been wise to inform their lawyer Rosellen Sullivan that I would be touching base with him N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


N.L.'s COVID-19 travel ban decision to be appealed, Canadian Civil Liberties Association says

The organization doesn't agree with a ruling that provinces or territories have a right to exclude Canadians

 

CBC News· Posted: Oct 19, 2020 1:21 PM NT


The Canadian Civil Liberties Association says it is filing an appeal of the Supreme Court of Newfoundland and Labrador's decision to uphold the province's COVID-19 travel ban. (Gary Locke/CBC)

The Canadian Civil Liberties Association is appealing a decision by the Supreme Court of Newfoundland and Labrador to uphold the province's controversial travel ban, which was introduced this spring to restrict the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19. 

Michael Bryant, executive director of the CCLA, said the organization decided to file the appeal with the Supreme Court of Newfoundland and Labrador by Monday's deadline because it doesn't agree with a ruling that provinces or territories have the right to exclude a Canadian from entry.

Bryant said Canadians have a constitutional right to move freely within their country, and it's not up to a province or territory to exclude a Canadian citizen.

This summer, Justice Donald Burrage ruled the province's COVID-19 travel ban does, in fact, violate Section 6 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms that allows Canadians to move freely through the country, but he said the ban is protected by Section 1, which allows reasonable exemptions to the charter.

"We are appealing because we cannot agree that provinces and territories have the power to erect borders to exclude Canadians, absent evidence that other measures like quarantines aren't working," said Bryant.

"It's during a pandemic that we need constitutional rights to be upheld by the courts because governments are driven so often by fear."

Cara Zwibel, a director at CCLA, said there was not enough evidence from the provincial government to deny entry to some people seeking to travel to the province.

"In Atlantic Canada and elsewhere in the country we have become increasingly concerned that provincial governments are putting up barriers to movement that are not reasonable or justified," she said.

There was fear, but there wasn't evidence.
- Cara Zwibel

According to Zwibel, the evidence put forward by the province stated there were "concerns" and "rumours" that travellers were not self-isolating upon arrival.

"The issue really comes down to the Section 1 justification under the charter, the question of whether the government had the evidence that it needed to decide to put in place restrictions when the rule it had before those restrictions were in place was that people had to self isolate," she said. "There's really no evidence that anything more was needed."

"There was fear, but there wasn't evidence."

During hearings this summer, Newfoundland and Labrador Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Janice Fitzgerald said she had not asked for precise models before ordering limits on travel into the province because the group doing that work was too new at the time.

Larger questions around travel rights

Lawyers for the CCLA and Halifax resident Kim Taylor filed the court challenge in May, after Taylor was denied a travel exemption to attend her mother's funeral in Newfoundland and Labrador. 

"In our view, the government's evidence didn't explain why the decision was made to completely prohibit travel for some when an isolation requirement would likely have been enough to achieve the province's public health objectives," said Zwibel on Monday.

"And at a more general level, this case is important because it asks whether governments are adequately protecting fundamental rights notwithstanding the significant challenges caused by the pandemic."

While travel restrictions have changed since the pandemic began, there is no current timeline for further alterations. Residents of Atlantic Canada are allowed to travel within the Atlantic bubble without being required to self-isolate.


Since the Atlantic travel bubble opened on July 3, mask wearing is mandatory at the St. John's International Airport. Residents of Atlantic Canada are allowed to travel within the bubble without being required to self-isolate. (Gary Locke/CBC)

The day before Taylor applied to come to St. John's, Fitzgerald issued a special order prohibiting anyone who lived outside the province from entering without an exemption issued by public health officials. 

Taylor's initial application was denied, she then appealed the decision and was granted entry to the province eight days after her initial application.

She launched legal action against the province, and the CCLA joined her case as a third party.

While there has been no date set for when the appeal will be heard, Zwibel said the timing of the case is "a little bit irrelevant," since it is of wider legal interest.

"This has become about more than the particular order — this is really about what kind of evidence courts need and what kind of evidence governments need to make restrictions on fundamental rights that are protected by the constitution," she said.

"Even if these restrictions are not in place by the time that this appeal is heard, this would be an important issue for the court to provide an opinion on."

Without a vaccine, it is likely COVID-19 will be around for some time — and so, too, would restrictions, in some form or another, Zwibel said.

"The question of whether provincial governments can put up borders and restrictions to the movement of Canadians" is a new and novel legal issue, she said. 

St. John's lawyer Rosellen Sullivan will be representing the civil liberties group as the case is heard in the Newfoundland and Labrador Court of Appeal.

Newfoundland and Labrador Health Minister John Haggie said he is not surprised the CCLA is filing an appeal of the ruling, but the restrictions will stay in place until either a different court ruling is handed down or the province receives different advice from public health officials.

Health Minister John Haggie speaks to reporters outside the Newfoundland and Labrador House of Assembly Monday. (CBC)

"I think there's a drive from public health to keep some kind of restrictions in place, and at the moment my advice from public health is that we're where we need to be," Haggie said.

"If you look at the evidence from the experts … that was where we felt we needed to go, and I think our results since then have justified the decision, quite frankly."

Haggie said he's been watching the rising number of cases in other parts of Canada, pointing to Ontario, Quebec, B.C. and Alberta in particular.

The travel restrictions are a "key piece" of the province's multi-pronged containment plans, Haggie said, and seem to be doing what they're meant to do —  mainly, keeping the number of cases of COVID-19 low.

"For the moment it certainly makes public health jobs a little bit easier. They've got a lot on their plate at the moment and recrafting a travel order is just additional workload they quite frankly don't need at the moment," he said.

"If we are told that that is no longer constitutional and has to be lifted, we will look at what our options are at that stage, but I think it would be premature to speculate on what those might be."

As of Aug. 31, people who live outside the Atlantic region but who own a home in N.L. were allowed to start entering the province, but had to apply for a travel exemption before arrival.

The province's COVID-19 information portal has a specific section on travel restrictions and requirements for rotational workers, as well.

As of Monday, there are 11 active cases of COVID-19 in Newfoundland and Labrador, all of them travel-related. There have been a total of 287 cases in the province, with 272 recoveries and four deaths.

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484 Comments 
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David Amos
Third time was a charm at closing time
Methinks Mikey Bryant and his buddy Cara Zwibel would have been wise to inform their lawyer Rosellen Sullivan that I would be touching base with him N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks in the spirit of full disclosure I called Madame Sullivan's office and talked to her assistant at 11 AM my time I liked that lady a lot after all most Marimers love our Newfies N'esy Pas? 
 


Rosellen Sullivan

Called to the bar: 1999 (NL)
300-233 Duckworth St.
St. John's, Newfoundland and LabradorA1C 1G8
Phone: 709-739-4141
Fax: 709-739-4145
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Pauley Norman
First line says it all to 'exclude Canadians' welcome to the Republic of Newfoundland.
 
 
Malcolm Freake
Reply to @Pauley Norman: We don't want you anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers/ deniers here.
 
 
Don Maurice
Reply to @Malcolm Freake: You already have enough of your own?
 
 
Denny O'Brien
Reply to @Pauley Norman: you have no right to make other sick.. if tlwe can keep beer from coming across the border then we can keep a deadly virus
 
 
Enzo WC
Reply to @Denny O'Brien:
Newsflash.
Healthy people don't make others sick.
The Charter is clear and the current practise has overreached.
 
 
Don Wienauer
Reply to Enzo WC: "The Charter is clear"

Yes, but perhaps not in the way you think. The Charter makes it clear that there can be reasonable limits imposed on our rights, including the s.6 mobility rights. This litigation is intended to clarify what those limits are.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Don Wienauer: I hope you know that I concur
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Enzo WC: i also agree with you 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Methinks Mikey Bryant and his buddy Cara Zwibel would have been wise to inform their lawyer Rosellen Sullivan that I would be touching base with him N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Steve Hyde
Just throwing this out there just in case any CCLA lackeys are watching:

There is a situation in Southwestern NS where a certain group of fishers are being targeted by another group of fishers and having their rights and freedoms trampled on, perhaps the CCLA could step in there instead of wasting everyone's time trying to burst the Atlantic bubble?
 
 
Steve Maclean
Reply to @Steve Hyde: but who’s tights are being trampled....that’s the question

 
Steve Hyde
Reply to @Steve Maclean : if you have to ask, then you better go get yourself educated on the subject
 
 
Steve Maclean
Reply to @Steve Hyde: both sides have a point.
 
 
Jonas Prince 
Reply to @Steve Maclean :
"Good people on both sides"...Where have I heard that before?
 
 
Don Wienauer
Reply to Steve Hyde: What could the CCLA do that hasn't already been done? The treaty rights in question have already been affirmed by the SCC.
 
 
Steve Hyde
Reply to @Don Wienauer: They can sue the Government of Canada, on behalf or with the Native fishers, for the Inaction on the Opinion the SCC already released 21 years ago, that's what they can do, thats if they truly care about rights and freedoms that is.

Trying to baby step their way to bursting the Atlantic bubble just proves one thing, they could care less about health and safety, and more about ensuring the virus spread around completely.
 
 
Steve Maclean
Reply to @Don Wienauer: one set of rules for everyone ....that fixed it
 
 
Alfred PIne
Reply to @Steve Maclean : The one set of rules were made by Supreme Court over 20 years ago in favour of the Mi'kmaq having a fishery within their treaty rights.
 
 
Carl Bainbridge
Reply to @Alfred PIne: actually, that is not entirely true. The set of rules for the natives was set in a treaty from the 1750's (or 1780's), the court case 21 years ago only confirmed that once again Canada was denying the natives treaty rights that had been granted centuries ago.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Don Wienauer: True
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Carl Bainbridge: So you say
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Guitard
Lawyers want to put us at risk to make some money. Greed.
 
 
Don Wienauer
Reply to David Guitard: I believe they're doing this one for free.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Don Wienauer: I don't think so
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Methinks Mikey Bryant and his buddy Cara Zwibel would have been wise to inform their lawyer Rosellen Sullivan that I would be touching base with him N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jack Dowhy:
I know Newfoundlanders and it seems they are endowed with a lot more common sense than the rest of this country seems to have.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Jack Dowhy: Dream on
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Surprise Surprise surprise
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOhn D Bond
To what point is this appeal going forward. Mobility, so they are fighting that the rights of the individual supersede those to society at large. What a load of .....
Wonder what odds the bookies in Vegas would give on that. Might be better than easy money.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: I know that you won't read this just as you no doubt know that I quite simply don't care whether you do or not. Perhaps some bookies would agree with me in the opinion that if an individual has no rights then the odds are we live in an UNJUST Society. Whether you believe me or not I already know for a fact that we do and have proved many times in court. Just because Plato claimed that the possibly fictional Socrates saw things differently than I does not make it so. As the old bard once wrote "There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy"

FYI I have always maintained that the philosopher was not motivated to drink the hemlock by the love of of his democratic society. I read somewhere long ago when I took an interest in such things that if Socrates opted to get out of Dodge to escape the death sentence he would have to take his well known to be nasty wedded partner to Troy with him. Hence I figured it was just a way he could make himself appear to be a Greek hero who met an honourable and tragic end but to me he was just attempting to justify finally getting clear of a quarrelsome wife once and for all Other religions agree with my reasoning Proverbs 25:24

Methinks many bookies would agree that many men have taken the coward's way out of this wonderful old world i truly beleive the word is more powerful than the sword and that individual rights are well worth fighting for in either fashion. Sometimes the little guy wins just like the dude whose name was given to me N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dallas Mcquarrie
I can only hope the Civil Liberties Association loses its appeal in a unanimous decision. The notion that my right to flit about the country trumps efforts to protect public health and safety in the midst of a pandemic is insane! What madness is it that proclaims that my right to risk the lives of thousands of people I've never met is more important than protecting the lives of those people?. This is the same principle, writ large, as bans on smoking in public places. Is the Civil Liberties Association going to go to court on behalf of a smoker's 'right' to expose people in public places to the risk of lung cancer?
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Dallas Mcquarrie: Cry me a river
 
 
Tyler Durden 
Reply to @Dallas Mcquarrie: If you think people who are disagreeing with this are doing so because it prevents them from having a "flit about the country" it just demonstrates how completely out of touch you are with this issue. 
 
 
Don Wienauer 
Reply to Dallas Mcquarrie: Slight problem with your analogy: "a smoker's 'right' to expose people in public places to the risk of lung cancer" doesn't appear anywhere in the Charter.
 
 
David Amos  
Rely to @Tyler Durden: Methinks you don't know this dude like I do N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Don Wienauer: Its not his only problem
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos: so how do you k how him Dave? Please enlighten us
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos: what are his other problems Dave? Please enlighten us 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Steve Thomas
This needs to be heard in the Supreme Court of Canada, where the issue can be laid to rest.
 
 
Don Wienauer
Reply to Steve Thomas: And it may well end up there. We'll see.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Don Wienauer: Heres hoping
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Section 6 ensures the right "to move to and take up residence in any province; and
to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province." It does not ensure the right to go on vacation in any province or visit family members in any province.
 
 
Don Wienauer
Reply to SarahRose Werner: Justice Burrage in this very case disagreed with you. He found that the Charter's mobility rights are NOT limited to traveling for work or to set up a new residence: Referring to s.6 of the Charter, he said that "...the right to remain in Canada as embodied in this provision includes the right of Canadian citizens to travel in Canada for lawful purposes across provincial and territorial boundaries.

You can read the decision here:

https://www.canlii.org/en/nl/nlsc/doc/2020/2020nlsc125/2020nlsc125.html

To save time, I'd suggest starting at about paragraph 339.

Of course, the Charter says there can be limits on that mobility right in certain circumstances, but the court affirmed that it's not restricted to working or setting up residence.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Don Wienauer: Well put and thanks for the tip
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Don Wienauer: FYI I am concerned that the Supreme Court of Canada will use the same reasoning they used with beer crossing border into New Brunswick. 

''The ruling was authored by “The Court” − a signature used in major cases to lend a ruling more weight.

The court said the provinces cannot set out to impose trade barriers on the flow of goods. But as long as the provinces are regulating goods for a different purpose − as in Nunavut and the Northwest Territories, which control the flow of liquor from elsewhere for public-health reasons − the side-effects on trade must be allowed."  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chris Van Ihinger
hasn't the CCLA got better things to do than mess around with Newfoundland/Labrador's programme to mitigate the spread of Covid in their province?

We generally support CCLA's efforts to ensure our legislative, judicial and enforcement bodies adhere to and support our Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but in this particular case we fear CCLA is losing touch, under the circumstances.

We're all in this together.
 
 
Don Wienauer
Reply to Chris Van Ihinger: If what you say is true, then the CCLA will lose. So what's the problem?
 
 
Tyler Durden
Reply to @Chris Van Ihinger: "We're all in this together."

What a crock. You don't give a rats behind about the difficulties this ban creates for anyone else as long as you are safe and sound. Me and you buddy, we're in nothing together. You are going to find that out the next time Newfoundland is looking for a financial bailout from the rest of Canada.
 
 
Tyler Durden
Reply to @Chris Van Ihinger: Newfoundlands travel ban says you are happy to be in this alone. It won't be forgotten.
 
 
Chris Van Ihinger
Reply to @Don Wienauer: If the CCLA wins this challenge, the courts' finding will make it more difficult for our gummermints to respond, promptly, to emergencies such as the current pandemic.
If they lose, their fine reputation for challenging situations that offend our Charter of Rights and Freedom will be forever marred. And who' is going to pay for this waste of our courts' time?
Much more better if the CCLA focus their powers on the question of whether people refusing to wear masks during major epidemics such as we are currently struggling against are, in fact, violating the rest of our rights to life, freedom and good health?
 
 
mellor byfield
Reply to @Chris Van Ihinger: How do you know they aren't already doing that? The CCLA has the ability to work on many cases at a time. Maybe it's hard for Newfoundlanders to comprehend multi-tasking.
 
 
Don Wienauer
Reply to Chris Van Ihinger: Wow. There's so much wrong with everything you said that I'm not even going to try to respond.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Don Wienauer: I concur why waste your precious time arguing with sheople with a closed mind?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Don Wienauer: For Instance notice Ed's public address to the CCLA appears to have gone 'Poof' ??? 
 
 
 
 

I must stand corrected ED's words still exist but many of mine still don't

 
 
 
 
Edward Bach 
Dear CCLA,
Thank you for standing up for our constitutional rights.

But governments are allowed to take extraordinary measures in extraordinary circumstances. We are in the midst of an extraordinary public health emergency and emergency measures are called for.

This time, you are wrong. Please shut up and sit down.
Your friend,
ED
 
 
Don Wienauer 
Reply to Edward Bach: "Shut up and sit down"? Really?

Wouldn't it be more useful for all of us for the courts to make clear for future reference just what the limits are?
 
 
Tyler Durden 
Reply to @Edward Bach: Dear Ed. You need to read The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms again if you are going to pretend to be Canadian. The word "extraordinary" does not appear in it anywhere.

The word the charter uses is "reasonable" when it talks about limitations, something the entire province brushed right over.

Your friend,
Grade 8 Social Studies
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to @Tyler Durden: Well put
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to @Don Wienauer: I concur
 
 
 
 
 
 

Supreme Court upholds interprovincial trade law in cross-border alcohol case

Canada has no constitutional guarantee of free trade between provinces, the Supreme Court has ruled in upholding a fine against a New Brunswicker who brought alcoholic beverages from Quebec into his home province.

Gérard Comeau was fined $292 after the RCMP caught him six years ago with 14 cases of beer and three bottles of spirits from Quebec. (Mounties on the Quebec side followed him back to the Restigouche River and radioed ahead to their colleagues on the other side as he crossed a bridge.) The province has a limit of 12 pints of beer or one bottle of liquor purchased outside its borders.

When he successfully fought the fine in New Brunswick Provincial Court, the case became about much more than beer. It had potential consequences for the flow of all manner of goods, from eggs to chicken and soon, to marijuana.

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But the Supreme Court of Canada ruled unanimously on Thursday that New Brunswick was within its rights to fine Mr. Comeau. The case turned on Section 121 of the 1867 Constitution, which says goods must be “admitted free” as they move from one province to another. The court said the term, although ambiguous, should be interpreted in light of the principle of federalism, which allows regional diversity and local concerns to be reflected within a single nation.

“The federalism principle supports the view that provinces within a federal state should be allowed leeway to manage the passage of goods while legislating to address particular conditions and priorities within their borders.”

The ruling was authored by “The Court” − a signature used in major cases to lend a ruling more weight.

The court said the provinces cannot set out to impose trade barriers on the flow of goods. But as long as the provinces are regulating goods for a different purpose − as in Nunavut and the Northwest Territories, which control the flow of liquor from elsewhere for public-health reasons − the side-effects on trade must be allowed.

Cost of 12 bottle pack of Molson Canadian across Canada

as of April 19, 2018
  

B.C.
2149

Alta.24.45
Sask.30.24
Man.22.99
Ont.22.95
Que.21.88
N.B.25.49
PEI25.99
N.S.25.99
Nfld.26.52
Yukon26.25

New Brunswick said its purpose is to manage the supply of liquor in the province, not to set up trade barriers.

The ruling was quickly seized on in the dispute between Alberta and British Columbia over a pipeline expansion, with B.C. saying a proposed Alberta law that would restrict the flow of oil out of the province would be struck down by the Supreme Court as a barrier to the flow of goods.

In Ottawa, the Conservative Party called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to do more to reduce interprovincial trade barriers, citing a Senate study that put their cost at more than $50-billion a year. The Prime Minister said in London that the government will look at the decision, but that it has made progress with an internal free-trade agreement last year.

Ian Blue, a lawyer representing Mr. Comeau, said the judges shrank from doing their constitutional duty. “I thought the Supreme Court would have a little more courage than they showed,” he said in an interview. “We consider it a political decision to favour the status quo.” By that, he meant that the court “bought into the broader provincial rights paradigm that we live in nowadays.”

Price index of 12 bottle pack of Molson Canadian across Canada

Index Quebec = 100, as of April 19, 2018
RegionIndex
B.C.98.22
Que.100.00
Ont.104.89
Man.105.07
Alta.111.75
N.B.116.50
PEI118.78
N.S.118.78
Yukon119.97
Nfld.121.21
Sask.138.21

Others cheered. Rob Cunningham, senior policy analyst with the Canadian Cancer Society, which intervened in the case, said a decision in favour of Mr. Comeau could have affected public health by allowing people to get cigarettes from provinces such as Quebec that have lower tobacco taxes. “Had the decision gone the other way, it would have opened the floodgates for interprovincial cigarette smuggling,” he said.

Provincial regulations on the sales of cannabis, once possession is legalized this summer, would be easy to evade if the provinces could not set the rules within their borders, he said. “It would have been a race to the bottom for health, safety and environmental standards.”

A New Brunswick judge who heard expert evidence from a single historian ruled that Canada’s founding fathers intended to allow internal trade to be completely free. But the Supreme Court said the judge substituted an expert’s opinion for nearly a century of appellate court rulings.

Paul Bates, a lawyer who represented the Consumers Council of Canada, which intervened in the case, called the decision a “classic Canadian compromise.”

“We don’t live in a land of constitutional absolutes. We live in a land of compromises and reconciliation.”

He said the decision is good for consumers, who will be able to benefit from the protections of provincial laws, such as those that prohibit hazardous products that may be found in other jurisdictions.

But Alexandre Moreau, a public policy analyst with the Montreal Economic Institute, was disappointed. “It’s a big win for government monopolies, but it’s a guaranteed loss for 37 million Canadians.”

He cited the trucking industry: Provincial regulations on such things as tire size and the number of hours a driver may be at the wheel cause some firms to send their vehicles through the United States on trips between Canadian destinations. Or just to trade with U.S. states.

New Brunswick Provincial Court Justice Ronald LeBlanc had upended a 1921 ruling by the Supreme Court of Canada establishing that while customs duties are not allowed, other trade barriers are. Usually, lower-court judges have to follow Supreme Court precedents. But Justice LeBlanc cited the Supreme Court’s 2013 ruling on prostitution laws, which established that when the facts and circumstances of a case change, lower-court judges can overturn rulings of higher courts.

In the Comeau case, however, the Supreme Court said all that had changed was that an expert had testified with a different view of Canadian history. If lower-court judges were allowed to overturn precedents for that reason, Canadian law would become chaotic, it said.

The Comeau case was the last to be heard by Beverley McLachlin before she retired as chief justice in December. She participated in the ruling.

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Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others 
Methinks whereas Trudeau The Younger is in Humpty Dumpty's seat yet polls tell his puppet masters that he won't fall, why not drop the writ before the news gets worse and the tale applies to him N'esy Pas?


 

 
 
 
 
 

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Methinks we all know how the confidence vote will go but I bet Trudeau The Younger will drop the writ anyway just like Higgy and Horgan did N'esy Pas?


 
 
 
 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/confidence-vote-commons-corruption-committee-1.5770807

 

NDP won't give Trudeau 'excuse' for election, Singh says ahead of confidence vote in Commons

MPs to vote on Conservative motion to create special committee to probe Liberal ethics, spending

 

Kathleen Harris· CBC News· Posted: Oct 21, 2020 11:45 AM ET

 


NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said today he won't give the Liberal government an 'excuse' to call an election. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said today that his party will not give Prime Minister Justin Trudeau an "excuse" to send Canadians to the polls in the middle of a global pandemic — an apparent signal that Trudeau's government will survive today's confidence vote.

In a news conference just two hours before a crucial confidence vote, Singh declined to say exactly how his MPs would vote or whether they might abstain.

"We are voting for Canadians. We are voting against an election," he said.

Singh said the NDP will still work to get answers on the WE Charity scandal through the Commons ethics committee, and that his party will push the government for more pandemic support for Canadians.

"People need help right now. They need confidence in the future. They're not looking for an election," he said.

"So New Democrats will not give Prime Minister Trudeau the election he's looking for. We're not going to be used as an excuse or a cover. We're going to continue to do the work that we need to do."

The Bloc Québécois had already confirmed it will support the Conservative motion, possibly leaving the outcome in the hands of the NDP.

The Green Party has confirmed that its three MPs will vote against the motion.

The vote is expected to happen around 3:15 p.m. ET and CBCNews.ca will carry it live.

The opposition day motion would create a special committee to probe the Trudeau government's ethics and spending in response to the pandemic — including the controversial WE Charity contract to administer a student volunteer grant program.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau did not recuse himself from talks on the agreement, even though several of his family members had been paid for speaking engagements by the organization.

The Liberal government has declared the vote on the Conservative motion a matter of confidence that could trigger an election — a high-stakes move that NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh has called a "farce."

In a news conference before the vote, Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole said if the motion does not pass, he will continue to work with other parties to hold the government to account. He criticized the government and Trudeau for framing the vote as a confidence matter.

"His designation of this vote as a confidence vote shows that he's willing to put the electoral fortunes of the Liberal Party ahead of the health, safety and well-being of Canadians," he said.

"Most Canadians would think that's unacceptable."

WATCH / Erin O'Toole on confidence vote:

Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole spoke with reporters just after NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh stated that the NDP would not bring down the government in the confidence vote. 0:56

Speaking to reporters after the Liberal caucus meeting, Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said the government needs the confidence of the House to do its job.

"I really believe at the end of the day common sense will prevail and we're going to get through this," she said.

Freeland also said that legislation for several new pandemic supports for Canadians and businesses needs to be passed and an election could jeopardize that.

WATCH / Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland on possible election:

 

Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland says she's focused on passing legislation to support Canadians during the pandemic as a confidence vote looms in Parliament today.  1:39

Heading into their weekly caucus meeting this morning, NDP MPs said they had not yet decided on a path forward and would talk about how to proceed behind closed doors.

"At the end of the day we have a lot of moving parts and we're still in a pandemic and we're still committed to fighting for Canadians and we're going to continue to do that," said Ontario NDP MP Matthew Green.

"We have to look at what all the variables are going in to this discussion and do what's best for the country."

Asked by reporters if the NDP had an obligation to support the Conservative motion, NDP ethics critic Charlie Angus said, "There's many ways to skin a cat, my friends."

WATCH / NDP MPs on today's confidence vote:


NDP MPs arrived for their weekly caucus meeting in Ottawa on Wednesday. 1:26

onservative House leader Gérard Deltell said the ethical questions surrounding the government require a special committee with a clear mandate. He said it's the "duty" of opposition parties to hold the government to account.

"This is what the issue is all about with this motion, and what we see right now is a prime minister who will do whatever it takes to call an election," he said.

"The only Canadian who would like to have an election today is the prime minister. The only Canadian who would like to freeze the government for a few months is the prime minister by calling an election."

The Conservatives amended the original motion to state that voting to launch the committee should not be considered grounds to order an election.

It also dropped the "anti-corruption committee" label it initially proposed.

Bloc Québécois House leader Alain Therrien said the WE Charity issue is so complex that it requires a special committee to get answers.

He said the Liberals'"scorched-earth" approach to politics is the product of a "club of cronyism" and renders compromise impossible.

He also criticized the NDP, suggesting the party's MPs have obediently followed Liberal demands.

"The NDP have acted in the last little while a little like the Liberals' lap dog," he said.

'Unwelcome drama': Paul

Green Party Leader Annamie Paul issued a statement urging the parties to cool their jets, calling the brinkmanship "unwelcome drama." 

"The Liberal and Conservative parties' high-stakes, high-tech game of chicken can have no winner," she said. 

"They should leave such games outside of Parliament, and focus on the urgent needs of people in Canada. I ask members of Parliament to dial down the rhetoric, which is not in keeping with the seriousness of this unprecedented moment, so that we can get back to working on the critical matters at hand."

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David Amos
Content disabled
Methinks even though Trudeau The Younger has been in Humpty Dumpty's seat for very long 5 years and made many a faux pas, the polls tell his puppet masters that he won't fall. Hence why not drop the writ before the news gets any worse.

Nobody can deny that when Harper was found in contempt of Parliament the electorate sent him back with a majority mandate for reasons i will never understand. i know Iggy was a rather appalling dude but Harper took the cake in the regard. So to sooth my own soul and after not running for public office for nearly 10 years I stress tested them all as best I could 3 more times but to no avail. I learned the hard way that sheople always get the governments they deserve and i have decided to just fun poking holes in stuffed shirts and continue to seek a myth call justice while standing before politically appointed crooks if only to secure a public record for my children to review someday and check my work. In the "mean' time have no doubt Trudeau The Younger is about to make the sheople happy voting for him again but there will be no more sunny ways in short order once the worldwide economy take a nosedive N'esy Pas? 

 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Methinks even though Trudeau The Younger has been in Humpty Dumpty's seat for 5 years but the polls right now tell his puppet masters that he won't fall. Hence why not drop the writ before the news gets worse N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Larry Porter
The liberals are scrambling now to patch holes in the Trudeau life boat!! As long as they mix some of their giveaways to real need they figure they can cover off the waste and pork barrelling no problem!! After all who is going miss a few billion dollars!!!!
 
 
Rob Munson
Reply to @Larry Porter:
As soon as new carbon taxes and other taxes start to come to pay off the existing interest on the trillion dollar debt, everybody will start to miss those few billions of dollars, you are correct.
 
 
Laurie Tainio
Reply to @Rob Munson: To get ahead you have to pay off the principle not just the interest. The way the Libbers are doing things right now they might pay billions in interest and noting the original debt. Where does that leave us tax payers?
 
 
Rob Munson
Reply to @Laurie Tainio:
My point being is that before long the interest alone may become impossible for Canada to pay, let alone any principle. I've read opinions from economists saying Canada will soon get to a point where it has to borrow money to make interest payments. If there is any truth to that, we are in deep kaka. I believe we are in that deep.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Larry Porter: Methinks even though Trudeau The Younger has been in Humpty Dumpty's seat for very long 5 years and made many a faux pas, the polls tell his puppet masters that he won't fall. Hence why not drop the writ before the news gets any worse.

Nobody can deny that when Harper was found in contempt of Parliament the electorate sent him back with a majority mandate for reasons i will never understand. i know Iggy was a rather appalling dude but Harper took the cake in the regard. So to sooth my own soul and after not running for public office for nearly 10 years I stress tested them all as best I could 3 more times but to no avail. I learned the hard way that sheople always get the governments they deserve and i have decided to just fun poking holes in stuffed shirts and continue to seek a myth call justice while standing before politically appointed crooks if only to secure a public record for my children to review someday and check my work. In the "mean' time have no doubt Trudeau The Younger is about to make the sheople happy voting for him again but there will be no more sunny ways in short order once the worldwide economy take a nosedive N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Methinks after 3 days we all know how the confidence vote went but I bet Trudeau The Younger will drop the writ anyway just like Higgy and Horgan did N'esy Pas?
 
 
Guy Trembley
Reply to @David Amos:
Why? The Teacher has the class under control. Tool and the gang sat down as expected.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Guy Trembley: Dream on


Rob Munson
Reply to @David Amos: With our election laws stating there will be a four year election cycle, I'm not sure the Libs can just call an election at their own timing? I could be wrong though, as BC did it and I thought we were on a four year election cycle by law. I believed the only time an election would be held before four years would be in the case of a minority gov't getting defeated on a confidence motion. I might be out to lunch. Perhaps, our governments can just do whatever the hell they want to do, damn the public interest.
 
 
Larry Porter
Reply to @Rob Munson: That is the liberal policy!!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Rob Munson: You are on to it in the end
 

 

 

 

 

 
David Amos 
Surprise Surprise Surprise

 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks we all know how the confidence vote will go but I bet Trudeau The Younger will drop the writ anyway just like Higgy and Horgan did N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Yea Right

"Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said the government needs the confidence of the House to do its job.

"I really believe at the end of the day common sense will prevail and we're going to get through this," she said.

Freeland also said that legislation for several new pandemic supports for Canadians and businesses needs to be passed and an election could jeopardize that."

Go Figure

"The Government of Canada (GoC) is considering engaging a Third Party Service Provider for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites that will be used to house and care for people for public health and other related federal requirements associated with the COVID-19 pandemic response. The Government is seeking feedback from current service providers about potential options for standing up, operating and managing all of the services associated with these sites. The purpose of this Request for Information (RFI) is to seek feedback from potential service providers in order to develop a strategy for the potential future management of these sites going forward.

Should the Government of Canada determine that a third-party managed solution going forward is a viable strategy, Public Services and Procurement Canada (PSPC) may issue a Request for Proposal (RFP) to provide suppliers the opportunity to bid on the services required as per the schedule contained in this document.'
 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure

Posted by canadian report on October 14, 2020 02:17

Fw: LPC Strategic Committee LeakInboxLPC leaker <LPC_leaker@protonmail.com>1:47 PM (7 hours ago)

Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, REMOVED <REMOVED> wrote:

Dear REMOVED,

I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).

I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:

– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.
Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: 
This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .

Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: 
And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.

So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.

All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.
Vancouver, Canada·Posted Today, October 14
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Mick Murcatto
Trudeau is holding Canadians hostage over what should be full disclosure of his actions as PM. What is wrong with him? Open the books.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
Edward Andrews
Reply to @Mick Murcatto: I have no confidence in this government. Jagmeet had the opportunity to have a legacy, remove the worst PM we've ever had the misfortune of hiring, and he took what amounts to tax payer funded pay offs (previous concession given to the NDP), the same tax payer funded payoffs Trudeau uses to buy votes (billions in unwarranted spending) and favours.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Edward Andrews: Methinks we all knew how the confidence vote would go but I bet Trudeau The Younger will drop the writ anyway just like Higgy and Horgan did N'esy Pas?
 
 
Troy Mann
Reply to @David Amos:
The conservatives will make another motion basically identical to this one and Trudeau will just call an election or Liberals will abstain from the vote. We vote before Christmas...

Conservatives & NDP will complain but Conservative Moe called an election just like NDP Horgan and Conservative Higgs.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Troy Mann: Nope Methinks my shy bold buddy Moe got lucky N'esy Pas?

"The 2020 Saskatchewan general election will be held on October 26, 2020 to elect members of the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan. This date is set by Saskatchewan's fixed election date law. The writ was dropped on September 29 just in time to hold the election on October 26."

Do tell hows things going for you out west? Do ya miss Higgy et al and your old buddies in Vestcor even a little bit?
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Mick Murcatto: Methinks even though Trudeau The Younger has been in Humpty Dumpty's seat for very long 5 years and made many a faux pas, the polls tell his puppet masters that he won't fall. Hence why not drop the writ before the news gets any worse.

Nobody can deny that when Harper was found in contempt of Parliament the electorate sent him back with a majority mandate for reasons i will never understand. i know Iggy was a rather appalling dude but Harper took the cake in the regard. So to sooth my own soul and after not running for public office for nearly 10 years I stress tested them all as best I could 3 more times but to no avail. I learned the hard way that sheople always get the governments they deserve and i have decided to just fun poking holes in stuffed shirts and continue to seek a myth call justice while standing before politically appointed crooks if only to secure a public record for my children to review someday and check my work. In the "mean' time have no doubt Trudeau The Younger is about to make the sheople happy voting for him again but there will be no more sunny ways in short order once the worldwide economy take a nosedive N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
George Reid
Hard to believe that JT is going to call an election to block a committee from accessing information from the “most transparent Government in Canadian history”, it must be really bad 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hubert McTavish
Reply to @Aaaron Morrris:
NDP voted against such a committee though...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Hubert McTavish: Methinks the one good thing about this ongoing circus is that all the clowns are busy proving to us that we get the governments we deserve which is exactly what I said during my last debate in Fundy Royal one very long year ago N'esy Pas?
 
 
Hubert McTavish
Reply to @David Amos:
I went to an open bar at me in-laws in Arisaig the other night. Drank me self to sleep while the party raged on. Love me Arisaig. Messy paw?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Hubert McTavish: Whereas clearly you know who I am methinks the plot thickened bigtime N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lance Campeau
Honest Canadians are ready. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Brian Stewart
Reply to @Scotty Davidson: the RCMP are in the tank for the liberals
 
 
Trevor James
Reply to @Milena Chavez: very true. liberals have learned how to buy votes to stay in power.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Brian Stewart: I concur

Methinks something is in the wind that smells very bad indeed N'esy Pas/

"Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said the government needs the confidence of the House to do its job.

"I really believe at the end of the day common sense will prevail and we're going to get through this," she said.

Freeland also said that legislation for several new pandemic supports for Canadians and businesses needs to be passed and an election could jeopardize that."

Go Figure

"The Government of Canada (GoC) is considering engaging a Third Party Service Provider for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites that will be used to house and care for people for public health and other related federal requirements associated with the COVID-19 pandemic response. The Government is seeking feedback from current service providers about potential options for standing up, operating and managing all of the services associated with these sites. The purpose of this Request for Information (RFI) is to seek feedback from potential service providers in order to develop a strategy for the potential future management of these sites going forward.

Should the Government of Canada determine that a third-party managed solution going forward is a viable strategy, Public Services and Procurement Canada (PSPC) may issue a Request for Proposal (RFP) to provide suppliers the opportunity to bid on the services required as per the schedule contained in this document.'
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
James White
Calling an election over parliament's right to hold committees would be the highest form of cynicism we've seen from this government yet. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hubert McTavish
Reply to @Aaaron Morrris:
Huh. Same page? NDP propped them up - again.
 
 
Hubert McTavish
Reply to @Van Collins:
While ‘working’ with the Bloc.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Hubert McTavish: Methinks the circus folks witnessed today may have reminded some old Maritimers of the jokes Franky Boy McKenna made of the NDP et al when he had a dog's breakfast in June of 2004 with Rotten Raphy our latest High Commissioner to "Not So Merry" Ol England N'esy Pas?

POLITICAL DOGMA

Harper's a lapdog for Bush, Martin's a German shepherd,
says former N.B. premier

Canadian Press

To hear former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna tell it, political debate is going to the dogs.

In Regina, Sask., to help Finance Minister Ralph Goodale win re-election, Mr. McKenna suggested at a rally that opposition leaders offered up a dog's breakfast to voters during the televised leaders debates.

Mr. McKenna described NDP Leader Jack Layton as "an annoying yappy little terrier," Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe as a "French poodle," and Conservative Leader Stephen Harper as "a lapdog for George Bush."

Showing his true dogma, Mr. McKenna had nothing but praise Tuesday for his pet choice. The prime minister, Mr. McKenna said, was "a noble German shepherd standing up for the interests of Canada."

"What does Jack Layton have to lose? He can yap away. No one expects him to win Very much .. . No one attacks aim because he's irrelevant."
 
 
Hubert McTavish
Reply to @David Amos:
I’m a mutt, the science-tiffix term being ‘Heinz 57’.

Wuff. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Elon Tanner
Worst PM ever. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Nartha Shannon
Reply to @Elon Tanner:
The worst PM was one before him; he is much better than him and other cons that we had.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Nartha Shannon: Go Figure

Posted by canadian report on October 14, 2020 02:17

Fw: LPC Strategic Committee LeakInboxLPC leaker <LPC_leaker@protonmail.com>1:47 PM (7 hours ago)

Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, REMOVED <REMOVED> wrote:

Dear REMOVED,

I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).

I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled   
Reply to @David Amos: Continued
The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:

– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021. 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Continued
– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.
Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Continued
This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .

Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: continued
And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.

So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.

All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.
Vancouver, Canada·Posted Today, October 14
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to @Nartha Shannon: BINGO 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Gina Davis 
We will have the most transparent government he told us.

Redacted.
 
 
Hubert McTavish
Reply to @Gina Davis:
We should be busy buying made in China goods. Support the new world order.

‘Politricks are for those that not.’
~Wizard of Oz
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Hubert McTavish: WE AIN'T IN kANSAS

Posted by canadian report on October 14, 2020 02:17

Fw: LPC Strategic Committee LeakInboxLPC leaker 1:47 PM (7 hours ago)

Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, REMOVED wrote:

Dear REMOVED,

I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).

I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Hubert McTavish: Continued

The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:
– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Hubert McTavish: Continued

– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.
Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Hubert McTavish: Continued

This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .

Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Hubert McTavish: continued

And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.

So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.

All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.
Vancouver, Canada·Posted Today, October 14
 
 
Hubert McTavish:
Reply to @David Amos:
May I take a convalescence vacation to your place? We can visit Livingstones Cove circa ‘73. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Greg Gesner
Just shows what a joke the NDP have become
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Gesner: Methinks follks wish to forget the jokes Franky Boy McKenna made of the NdP et al when he had a dog's breakfast in June of 2004 with Rotten Raphy our latest High Commissioner to "Not So Merry" Ol England N'esy Pas?

POLITICAL DOGMA

Harper's a lapdog for Bush, Martin's a German shepherd,
says former N.B. premier

Canadian Press

To hear former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna tell it, political debate is going to the dogs.

In Regina, Sask., to help Finance Minister Ralph Goodale win re-election, Mr. McKenna suggested at a rally that opposition leaders offered up a dog's breakfast to voters during the televised leaders debates.

Mr. McKenna described NDP Leader Jack Layton as "an annoying yappy little terrier," Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe as a "French poodle," and Conservative Leader Stephen Harper as "a lapdog for George Bush."

Showing his true dogma, Mr. McKenna had nothing but praise Tuesday for his pet choice. The prime minister, Mr. McKenna said, was "a noble German shepherd standing up for the interests of Canada."

"What does Jack Layton have to lose? He can yap away. No one expects him to win Very much .. . No one attacks aim because he's irrelevant."
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
curtis anderson
If Canada has Watergate we would never know as Canadian journalist are so week knee'd and lazy !
 
 
Rory Cain
Reply to @curtis anderson: We only get fed what they want us to hear. Single biggest problem in the West today is our media.
 
 
Dave Macmurchie
Reply to @Rory Cain:
Single biggest problem in the West today is our social media.
 
 
Dave Miller
Reply to @Rory Cain: Another CLOWN
 
 
Juergen Hesse
Reply to @Dave Macmurchie:
Agree, you find exacty the opinion, you want to find. Scary. Social media is the curse now.
 
 
Juergen Hesse
Reply to @Dave Miller:
Says the super clown.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Juergen Hesse: Welcome to the circus
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @curtis anderson: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Rory Cain: Obviously I concur
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Macmurchie: Need i say that i strongly disagree?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Miller: Have you looked in the mirror lately?

Methinks many would say the same of you N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Matt Smith
A PM with no conscience or scruples.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Matt Smith: Methinks many old Maritimers would agree with me in that the only one Canada ever had who had both a conscience or scruples and most importantly INTEGRITY was The Right Honourable Richard Bedford Bennett Prime Minister 1930-1935

The irrefutable proof is the simple fact that since 2015 Harper and now Trudeau will not put his statue on the grounds of the Capital District so that his ghost can remind them of their failings and many wrongs N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 


 
 
 
Michael Hunt
Deputy Prime Minister Singh doesn't want to risk losing his influence on the Trudeau government....
 
 
Anna Rumley
Reply to @Michael Hunt:
Why would he?

When the NDP was official opposition and the Cons had a majority, the NDP got nothing done at all, and watched their agenda decimated and shredded. At least the Liberals listen to the NDP.
 
 
Dave Macmurchie
Reply to @Michael Hunt:  
And why would he? To gain influence with the Cons?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Michael Hunt: Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?
 
 
 

Snap election averted as Liberal government survives confidence vote in Commons

MPs defeat Conservative motion to create special committee to probe Liberal ethics, spending

 
 

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his Liberal government had declared a Conservative motion to create a special committee to scrutinize the government's response to the pandemic a confidence matter. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)

Canadians will not be heading to the polls for a snap fall election now that the Liberal government has survived a confidence vote on a Conservative motion to create a special committee to probe the government's ethics and pandemic spending.

MPs voted 180-146 to defeat the opposition motion, with the NDP, Greens and Independent MPs voting with the Liberals.

Despite the vote, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh would not say today that he has confidence in the government.

"I am confident that we can keep on fighting for people and we've shown that we've won for people," he told Vassy Kapelos, host of CBC News Network's Power & Politics. 

"In this case, what it was really about, what became really clear, was that Prime Minister Trudeau was looking for an excuse to go to an election and we did not want to give Justin Trudeau an excuse to go to an election."

In a news conference just two hours before the confidence vote, Singh said the NDP will still work to get answers on the WE Charity scandal through the Commons ethics committee, and that his party will push the government for more pandemic support for Canadians.

The Bloc Québécois had already confirmed it will support the Conservative motion, while the Green Party indicated that its three MPs would vote against the motion.

The opposition day motion would have created a special committee to probe the Trudeau government's ethics and spending in response to the pandemic — including the controversial WE Charity contract to administer a student volunteer grant program.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau did not recuse himself from talks on the agreement, even though several of his family members had been paid for speaking engagements by the organization.

The Liberal government has declared the vote on the Conservative motion a matter of confidence that could trigger an election — a high-stakes move that NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh called a "farce."

WATCH: Singh explains why NDP MPs voted to support the Liberal government:


NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh spoke to CBC's Power and Politics after NDP MPs helped the Liberal government survive a confidence vote. 0:44

In a news conference before the vote, Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole said if the motion doesn't pass, he would continue to work with other parties to hold the government to account. He criticized the government and Trudeau for framing the vote as a confidence matter.

"His designation of this vote as a confidence vote shows that he's willing to put the electoral fortunes of the Liberal Party ahead of the health, safety and well-being of Canadians," he said.

"Most Canadians would think that's unacceptable."

Singh told Kapelos that its "pretty rich for the Conservatives" to suggest that the special committee is the only way to get answers when other facts and details about WE Charity came to light at regular committees.

"The Conservatives would have you believe this is the only way to get to the bottom of the spending scandal with the Liberal government. That's not the case," he said. "So far, ministers have testified, documents have been produced, the Kielburger brothers testified, all at regular committees. The ethics and the finance committee."

Speaking after the vote, Conservative House Leader Candice Bergen said her party does not regret putting forward the motion and argued the prime minister put his own political self-interest ahead of the health and safety of Canadians.

"We don't regret doing our job. Our job is to hold the government to account. Our job is to ask tough questions. We didn't expect them to like it but we certainly didn't think the prime minister was going to be that arrogant and say that he was going to make it a confidence motion to cover himself and protect his own interests," she told Kapelos.

WATCH: Conservative House leader Candice Bergen reacts as government survives confidence vote:


Candice Bergen spoke with Power and Politics host Vassy Kapelos about today's confidence vote in Parliament. 1:29

Speaking to reporters after the vote, Government House leader Pablo Rodriguez brushed away suggestions that his government would make every vote in the House a matter of confidence as a tactic going forward. 

"That's absolutely ridiculous," Rodriguez said. "This is a serious matter. What they proposed here is extremely serious. They go over the limits. It's irresponsible. It was about paralyzing the government in the middle of pandemic when we need to be there working for Canadians, working for our seniors, working for our families, helping those who have lost their jobs."

WATCH : Rodriguez says the Liberal government didn't give concessions:

Government House Leader Pablo Rodriguez spoke with reporters after the Liberal government survived a confidence vote on Monday. 1:53

Asked by reporters if the NDP had an obligation to support the Conservative motion, NDP ethics critic Charlie Angus said, "There's many ways to skin a cat, my friends."

Conservative House leader Gérard Deltell said the ethical questions surrounding the government require a special committee with a clear mandate. He said it's the "duty" of opposition parties to hold the government to account.

"This is what the issue is all about with this motion, and what we see right now is a prime minister who will do whatever it takes to call an election," he said.

"The only Canadian who would like to have an election today is the prime minister. The only Canadian who would like to freeze the government for a few months is the prime minister by calling an election."

The Conservatives amended the original motion to state that voting to launch the committee should not be considered grounds to order an election.

It also dropped the "anti-corruption committee" label it initially proposed.

WATCH: Green Party leader urges politicians to work together after confidence vote:


Green Party Leader Annamie Paul spoke to reporters after today's confidence vote in Parliament. She urged all political parties to work together in the days ahead. 1:13

Bloc Québécois House leader Alain Therrien said the WE Charity issue is so complex that it requires a special committee to get answers.

He said the Liberals'"scorched-earth" approach to politics is the product of a "club of cronyism" and renders compromise impossible.

He also criticized the NDP, suggesting the party's MPs have obediently followed Liberal demands.

"The NDP have acted in the last little while a little like the Liberals' lap dog," he said.

'Unwelcome drama': Paul

Green Party Leader Annamie Paul issued a statement urging the parties to cool their jets, calling the brinkmanship "unwelcome drama." 

"The Liberal and Conservative parties' high-stakes, high-tech game of chicken can have no winner," she said. 

"They should leave such games outside of Parliament, and focus on the urgent needs of people in Canada. I ask members of Parliament to dial down the rhetoric, which is not in keeping with the seriousness of this unprecedented moment, so that we can get back to working on the critical matters at hand."

With files from The Canadian Press and the CBCs' Peter Zimonjic

 

 
 
 
 
 
 

This brawl in the Commons may end in a draw — but there will be others

It may look chaotic, but this is how a minority Parliament is supposed to work

 
Aaron Wherry· CBC News· Posted: Oct 20, 2020 5:42 PM ET 
 
 

Leaders of the four main parties, clockwise from top left: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Conservative Leader and Leader of the Official Opposition Erin O'Toole, Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh. (The Canadian Press/CBC)
 

That sound you hear emanating from Ottawa — a dull rumble of umbrage and purported principles — is the sound of your democracy at work.

Maybe it's not the sound of your democracy working beautifully — NDP leader Jagmeet Singh used the word "farce"— but your democracy is still basically working.

Minority parliaments such as the one we have now — where no one party has a majority of seats in the House of Commons — always seem very good in theory. In a minority situation (in theory), the government of the day can't run roughshod over the opposition, parties have to work together to find compromises and Parliament is in a much stronger position to hold the government to account. The end result is (hopefully) a better form of governance and democracy.

And sometimes a minority Parliament can live up to that promise. But it can also be a series of conflicts — a House of Commons held together less by the necessity and righteousness of compromise and more by loud threats of an election.

"The Liberals are threatening an election in the middle of a pandemic to avoid any further scrutiny," Conservative leader Erin O'Toole said this morning.

"The opposition is going to have to decide whether they want to make this minority Parliament work, or whether they have lost confidence in the government," Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said a couple hours later at his own news conference.

Proposals, counter-proposals

The current dispute goes back to the summer and the opposition's desire to pursue the WE affair.

When Parliament resumed in September, the opposition parties attempted to revive their demands for disclosure. The Liberals balked. With two committees tied up by Liberal filibusters, the Conservatives moved the fight to the House with a request that MPs create a special "anti-corruption committee" that would be empowered to pursue the government on several fronts. The Liberals renewed their objections — and countered with a proposal for a special committee to study all of the government's pandemic-related spending.

There are at least three points of dispute here.

The Trudeau government argues that the opposition parties have gone too far in demanding that the Speaker's Spotlight, a private agency, turn over information about public engagements for which the prime minister's mother and brother have been paid over the past 12 years. The NDP offered to drop that demand but it remains part of the Conservatives' proposal.


 
Co-founders Craig (left) and Marc Kielburger introduce Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his wife Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau as they appear at the WE Day celebrations in Ottawa on November 10, 2015. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)
 

The opposition parties say government officials went too far in redacting information from the documents that were provided to the finance committee. The Liberals would like the committee to hear from the officials who did the redaction before MPs on the committee decide whether their parliamentary privilege has been breached. The Conservatives argue the officials can be heard from later.

But the most hotly contested aspect of this is the meaning of what the Conservatives are proposing.

The Liberals seem to believe that the implication of the Conservative motion is that the government is corrupt. They insist that passing the motion would be an expression of non-confidence by the House that must trigger an election.

A non-confidence game

The Conservatives responded by amending their motion to rename the committee: instead of calling for an "anti-corruption committee," they now propose to create a "special committee on allegations of misuse of public funds by the government." The Conservatives also added a clause to their motion to insist that "the establishment of the committee shall not, in the opinion of the House, constitute legitimate grounds for calling a general election."

That proviso has no statutory power. It would not stop the government from declaring the vote a matter of confidence, or prevent the prime minister from asking the governor general to call a new election (and, a year after the last election, the governor general would be expected to grant such a request). But the point is moot: the Liberals were not persuaded that the amendments changed the implication.

The more cynical view would be that the Liberals have something to hide and are going to great lengths to conceal it. The slightly less cynical view would be that the Liberals would rather not face an open-ended inquiry into whatever can be alleged about them — the sort of thing that would, regardless of anyone's innocence or guilt, produce any number of news reports about the mere possibility of corruption.

Canadian democracy depends, in part, on the opposition holding the government to account — and the will of Parliament is ultimately paramount. But it doesn't necessarily follow that the government has to happily agree to whatever the opposition proposes. The Conservatives are pursuing the government with a certain zeal and the Liberals are pushing back with the leverage available to them.

Which way will the NDP jump?

The NDP could step into the breach — they might not want to go to an election right now and they might also see a chance to split the difference between the Conservative and Liberal proposals, allowing them to walk away looking both reasonable and relevant.

All of this might be regarded as the normal push-and-pull of a minority Parliament. At worst, it might be further evidence that Canada's major political parties are fundamentally incapable of working together except in the most pitched and acrimonious of circumstances.

But you also don't need to look very far right now to realize that a functioning democracy is a rather precious thing — and that the long-term threats posed by dysfunction and cynicism are not purely hypothetical. That is something that might lurk in the minds of participants and observers alike.

The most likely scenario remains a compromise that avoids an election. If that happens, of course, another flashpoint will emerge in the Commons a week or a month from now, another occasion for more manoeuvring. The example of our last era of minority Parliament (2004 to 2011) suggests that there will be (at least) another half-dozen opportunities to worry about the possibility of an election before the next election actually occurs.

A certain amount of brinkmanship is inevitable — even healthy. As long as everyone understands that this is not just fun and games.

About the Author

Aaron Wherry

Parliament Hill Bureau

Aaron Wherry has covered Parliament Hill since 2007 and has written for Maclean's, the National Post and the Globe and Mail. He is the author of Promise & Peril, a book about Justin Trudeau's years in power.

 
 
 
 
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Rick McCann
No draw. Canadians lose and we will continue to lose as long as the liberals avoid accountability. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Robert Kerr 
Reply to @Bobby Stevens: thank you for sharing that with us..
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Rick McCann: Methinks everybody knows their opposition is no better and nobody cares Whereas apathy rules the day the sheople always get the government they deserve. Furthermore no matter what political party wins oversight of the circus the same sneaky bureaucrats run the show behind the scenes N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hamish lawrence
How not to report the news. By Aaron Wherry 
 
 
John Michael
Reply to @Hamish lawrence: Today there are more news items on US politics and Trump in this Canadian tax payer funded Canadian media site than there are about this critical Canadian political crisis unfolding in the Canadian parliament. As usual Aaron from the PMO spins everything as positive for Trudeau and blames the conservatives for the long history of Trudeau’s troubling behavior 

 
Carl Roaden 
Reply to @John Michael: I agree. Oh, but Trudeau and CBC apologists will say look in the Canada section if you want Canadian news. Well the only "world" Canadians and the CBC should be caring about is the potential of a forced election.
Give it a rest with your anti-Trump agenda, it's extremely old hat now.
Let the real news about your golden boy be front and centre.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Hamish lawrence: Methinks its just another on of those things Wherry does that the puppet master who oversees his boss greatly appreciates much to chagrin of the conservatives N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
Hamish lawrence
Wherry is not only writing to support his idol, he is writing to save his job. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Don Cheer 
Reply to @Bobby Stevens:
O'Toole says a lot of things to different people
Case in point - Energy East
In Quebec O'Toole says it is off the table
In Alberta O'Toole says it is a given and a go

Which O'Toole do we believe?
 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Hamish lawrence: I concur
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies

 

Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others 
Methinks all the clowns in this circus are busy proving that we get the governments we deserve which is exactly what I said during my last debate in Fundy Royal one very long year ago N'esy Pas? 


 
 
 
 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-we-opposition-day-1.5768993

 

Parliamentary showdown looms as Conservatives, Liberals dig in heels over anti-corruption committee

O'Toole says special probe should not trigger election as government declares it a confidence motion

 

Kathleen Harris· CBC News· Posted: Oct 20, 2020 8:09 AM ET

 


Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole is pressing for the creation of a new special committee to scrutinize the government's potential misuse of tax dollars and ethical lapses in its response to COVID-19. (Tijana Martin/Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)

The prospect of a snap election hangs in the balance as the Liberal government and the opposition Conservatives spar over a proposal to create a parliamentary committee to probe the Liberal government's pandemic response spending and possible ethical lapses.

Today, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said that Canadians will go to the polls if his government loses a confidence vote on the Conservative motion.

"We have rolled out unprecedented measures to support Canadians, to support small businesses, to support families, to support communities right across the country, and we feel that parliamentarians should in this exceptional time have an ability to look very carefully at all that spending. And that's why we're proposing this special committee," Trudeau told a news conference in Ottawa.

"But it will be up to parliamentarians and the opposition to decide whether they want to make this minority Parliament work, or whether they've lost confidence in this government's ability to manage this pandemic and continue to govern this country during this crisis."

The government had proposed striking a special committee with a narrower mandate to review federal COVID-19 program spending.

Earlier today, Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole argued that creating a special committee to probe possible misuse of tax dollars during the coronavirus pandemic would not constitute legitimate grounds for triggering a general election.

During a news conference in Ottawa, O'Toole said his party's push to strike a so-called "anti-corruption" committee to scrutinize government spending, lobbying and the delivery of federal aid programs is simply about holding the government to account on possible misspending and ethical lapses.

The Liberal government says the motion to create the parliamentary committee will be considered a confidence vote — meaning it could lead to a snap federal election.

O'Toole said the Conservative motion being debated today has been amended to include language specifying that creating the committee should not be deemed grounds to order an election.

He said he's also open to changing the name of the committee if that would bring other opposition parties on board.

"Canadians expect the truth. They deserve accountability. That's what this committee will do," he said, adding that the Liberals have dodged accountability by withholding documents, proroguing Parliament and shedding a key minister embroiled in the WE Charity controversy.

Trudeau says election not in Canadians' best interest

In an interview with Toronto radio station RED FM Tuesday, Trudeau accused the Conservatives of playing political games as the government tries to focus on supporting Canadians through the coronavirus pandemic.

"We've said if they think we're so corrupt, then maybe they don't have confidence in the government, and I think that's something very important. If they want to make criticisms, they have to be willing to back it up in the House," he said.

Trudeau said he does not want an election and that holding one now would not be in the best interests of Canadians.

"But if the Conservatives are saying that this government is completely corrupt, then I think they have to face the consequences of that," he said.

Liberal House leader Pablo Rodriguez called the Conservative motion "totally irresponsible" and confirmed the government will deem it a confidence motion.

He said the committee will detract from the government's efforts to help Canadians through the health and financial crises.

"Their motion is nothing more than a dangerous political plan to paralyze the government, and they're doing this at a time when we should all be focusing on keeping Canadians safe and healthy during the pandemic," he said.

The Conservative motion would give the new committee a mandate to examine the Canada student service grant and the ties between WE Charity — which had been selected to administer the program — and members of the Liberal government and their family members.

It also would be tasked to examine other issues related to the government's COVID-19 response.

The Conservatives say the committee would have the power to call Trudeau as a witness, as well as Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland and other cabinet ministers.

Conservative House leader Gerard Deltell called the Liberals' effort to present the Tory motion as a matter of confidence "ridiculous."

"That you are even entertaining such speculation demonstrates to me — as it would to all Canadians — the desperate ends to which the Liberal government will go to further its coverup of a very troubling scandal which reeks of corruption," Deltell wrote in a letter to Rodriguez yesterday. A copy of the letter was obtained by The Canadian Press.

NDP to Liberals: 'Calm down'

Weeks ago, the NDP pitched a special committee that would focus exclusively on pandemic-related spending — an idea the Tories' anti-corruption probe would amplify.

The Liberals countered with their own proposal for a COVID-19 committee, detailing their pitch Monday in a letter to the House leaders of the other parties.

They're proposing one that focuses on pandemic-related spending, with six Liberal MPs and six members of the opposition parties. The Tories' version would have 15 MPs, with the opposition holding the majority.

The Liberals' approach is too broad, Deltell said.

"All Mr. O'Toole's motion would do is to establish a committee with a focused mandate to review the most troubling reports related to your government's pandemic response measures," he wrote in his reply to Rodriguez.

"This would allow the 24 standing committees of the House to focus on their usual mandates, and how they intersect with the COVID-19 pandemic, while ensuring Parliament discharges its primary purpose: to hold the government to account."

NDP ethics critic Charlie Angus said he was concerned the Liberals would stymie the work of a new committee much as they have done with existing ones. (CBC)

NDP ethics critic Charlie Angus said earlier Monday he feared the Liberals would stymie the work of a new committee, much as they have done with existing ones by filibustering proceedings to avert votes.

He suggested, however, that to toss the country into an election over it would be folly.

In any confidence vote, the votes of NDP and Bloc Québécois MPs would be critical in deciding whether the minority Liberal government fell.

"Our message to the Liberals is, calm down, we have work to do," Angus said. "Work with us."

Documents dropped Monday

More light was shed Monday on the interactions between WE Charity and the government with the release of dozens of pages of documents previously demanded by the finance committee. The documents include details of fees paid to, and expenses covered for, members of the Trudeau family who participated in WE events.

The charity said previously that Sophie Gregoire Trudeau, the prime minister's wife, had been paid a $1,500 speaking fee for one appearance. The documents released Monday also disclosed that the charity covered $23,940.76 in expenses for eight appearances between 2012 and 2020.

The Commons' ethics committee also has demanded to know how much money Trudeau and his family received in speakers' fees over the last several years. Trudeau released details of his own fees Monday — amounting to about $1.3 million — which he disclosed when he ran for leadership of the party in 2013.

But the Liberals said his family's records were off limits.

With files from Stephanie Levitz of The Canadian Press

 

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David Amos 
Methinks even though Trudeau The Younger has been in Humpty Dumpty's seat for 5 years but the polls right now tell his puppet masters that he won't fall. Hence why not drop the writ before the news gets worse N'esy Pas?  
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos 
Methinks after 3 days we all know how the confidence vote went but i bet Trudeau The Younger will drop the writ anyway just like Higgy and Horgan did N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kasper Kane  
Go ahead Justin .Do it. Be the first PM in history to call an unnecessary election in the middle of a pandemic just to save your own hide. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Edward Andrews
Reply to @Costa Ricardo: Its funny how successful current political parties have been in turning Canada into a left v. right US style system and we the masses just rant about out team v. the other team without ever looking at facts and turning a blind eye to every sin. 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Edward Andrews: Methinks they well understand the wicked game the Yankee's play so well. It goes under the heading of entertaining the sheople whole blindly follow one party or another like its their favourite sports team.

Clinton's pal Franky Boy and Bush's buddy Harper proved it to everyone while I was running against all the political parties in the election of the 38th Parliament, haper lost that round and the lawyer who grew up just down the road from me was appointed to be our US ambassador after the election just like I predicted he would be. Now that his fellow political lawyer whom I have always called Rotten Ralphy has lost his seat on the Hill he has been appointed to be our High Commissioner to "Not So Merry' ol England and nobody cares because apathy rules the day N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Edward Andrews: Methinks some old Maritimers witnessing the circus lately may have been reminded of Franky Boy's jokes when he had a dog's breakfast in June of 2004 with his fellow political lawyer Rotten Raphy N'esy Pas?

POLITICAL DOGMA

Harper's a lapdog for Bush, Martin's a German shepherd,
says former N.B. premier

Canadian Press

To hear former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna tell it, political debate is going to the dogs.

In Regina, Sask., to help Finance Minister Ralph Goodale win re-election, Mr. McKenna suggested at a rally that opposition leaders offered up a dog's breakfast to voters during the televised leaders debates.

Mr. McKenna described NDP Leader Jack Layton as "an annoying yappy little terrier," Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe as a "French poodle," and Conservative Leader Stephen Harper as "a lapdog for George Bush."

Showing his true dogma, Mr. McKenna had nothing but praise Tuesday for his pet choice. The prime minister, Mr. McKenna said, was "a noble German shepherd standing up for the interests of Canada."

"What does Jack Layton have to lose? He can yap away. No one expects him to win Very much .. . No one attacks aim because he's irrelevant."
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Anne Lee
So what’s the big deal Trudeau? You keep saying you and your party have done nothing wrong. Let’s clear the air. And you sir do not have the right to threaten the Canadian people. You work for us remember  
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Anne Lee: Go figure whether this is fake news or not

On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM,

Dear REMOVED,

I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).

I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes. 

 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Anne Lee: Continued
The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:

– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Anne Lee: Continued
This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .

Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely.
 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Anne Lee: continued
And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.

So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.

All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.
Vancouver, Canada·Posted Today, October 14 

 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Anne Lee: continued 
 – Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.
Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Janet Miller
Why would Trudeau threaten to trigger an election, During a global pandemic, in order to stop an anti corruption committee from being formed? There must be a lot of dirt under the proverbial carpet. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Bob Rialy
Reply to @Karen King: Come on Karen. How can you be so daft as to not read the news. It's Trudeau who has called a confidence vote twice now in as many weeks.
No other leader of any of the parties has mentioned election half as many times as Trudeau in speeches. Sheesh. 

 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Janet Miller: Methinks Its not rocket science anyone can read the news and check the polls N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Bob Rialy: Methinks you did not read this in the news yet the opposition won't mention what is published on the government's website N'esy Pas?

Trade Agreement: CETA / CFTA
Request for Information regarding Service Provider(s) for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites for The Government of Canada

The Government of Canada (GoC) is considering engaging a Third Party Service Provider for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites that will be used to house and care for people for public health and other related federal requirements associated with the COVID-19 pandemic response. The Government is seeking feedback from current service providers about potential options for standing up, operating and managing all of the services associated with these sites. The purpose of this Request for Information (RFI) is to seek feedback from potential service providers in order to develop a strategy for the potential future management of these sites going forward.

Should the Government of Canada determine that a third-party managed solution going forward is a viable strategy, Public Services and Procurement Canada (PSPC) may issue a Request for Proposal (RFP) to provide suppliers the opportunity to bid on the services required as per the schedule contained in this document.

This RFI seeks industry’s feedback to:
i. Obtain supplier feedback, with advice and guidance on the operation of these sites;
ii. Assess industry’s interest in bidding on a potential the contemplated RFP;
iii. Identify and minimize any potential competitive barriers where possible; and
iv. Ensure that potential suppliers can deliver the type of services being requested in a possible upcoming RFP.
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
3 days ago 

David Amos 
Methinks we all know how the confidence vote will go but i bet Trudeau The Younger will drop the writ anyway just like Higgy and Horgan did N'esy Pas? 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: Surprise Surprise Surprise

NDP won't give Trudeau 'excuse' for election, Singh says ahead of confidence vote in Commons
MPs to vote on Conservative motion to create special committee to probe Liberal ethics, spending
Kathleen Harris · CBC News · Posted: Oct 21, 2020 11:45 AM ET 

 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Methinks some ethical parliamentarian should question the Prime Minister what is with this ASAP N'esy Pas?

https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-ZL-105-38463?fbclid=IwAR27CbomiBgiFTyup9siLPM7HnH671hwVSMhdrQLuVZFBr1U6SH-Wjhotkk
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos  
Content disabled
Methinks many Canadians are demanding to know right now whether or not this is Fake News
N'esy Pas?

https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos  
Welcome to the circus 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos  
Methinks the one good thing about this ongoing circus is that all the clowns are busy proving to us that we get the governments we deserve which is exactly what I said during my last debate in Fundy Royal one very long year ago N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Pam Turner
Let's not stall it any longer...BRING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT! Reason=We can NOT have DISHONEST people in charge. If you had a Business would you keep a dishonest employee? No you would FIRE THEM unless you want to lose a lot of money!
 
 
Don Jackson
Reply to @Pam Turner: ..and put who in?...so far, this government has been less kor rupt than the previous Cons government...
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Don Jackson: Justin is still the best choice..
 
 
Sally Casswell
Reply to @Marc Martin:
Maybe time to rethink your standards.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Sally Casswell: He has none
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Mark McGavin
The Liberals know that the Bloc do not want an election and the NDP are terrified at the thought of having one because they are down in the polls and deeply in debt. So they made this a confidence vote in hopes of scaring them off. Probably won't work with the Bloc but it may with the NDP. It puts Singh in a very tough spot. If he gives in it will make him look like he is now under Trudeau's control and if he doesn't there may be an election.
 
 
Mark McGavin 
Reply to @Mark McGavin: The most troubling thing here is that the message this govt is now sending by using this tactic to hide their misdeeds is that whenever the opposition tries to hold them to account they will threaten an election to protect themselves from public scrutiny. Something that should concern anyone who cares about protecting our democracy.
 
 
Mike Wilson Wilson Bergen
Reply to @Mark McGavin:
Cooperating with another person

does not mean

you are *under their control.*

What kind of world do blue fans live in?

The NDP has zero chance of forming gov't in the next ten years. This is the closest they have come to being able to get some of their agenda actually done.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Mark McGavin: the Bloc are down in polls and not popular in Quebec since COVID19 , Liberals are polling 7 points over the Cons even better then they did in 2019, they can only gain with an election.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks everybody knows what your hero is up to. It ain't rocket science. Your local buddy Higgy had the writ dropped even though nobody wanted an election and the NDP in BC pulled a fast one too for the same reason that Trudeau The Younger wants one ASAP. Premier Moe just got lucky tis all N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Marc Martin
What's Angry Erin's plan for Canada ? I mean Harper and Andrew must have told him what it was already no ? Let me guess more service cuts, more health cuts, more cuts to the rich and big business ohhhhh and money to support American oil industry in Canada..
 
 
Jamie Gillis
Reply to @Marc Martin:
Maybe you should actually take the time to find out, because your guesses are woefully off the mark.
 
 
Paul William Smith
Reply to @Marc Martin:
what's take-it-all-Trudeau's plan for Canada? Fire a few more strong women? Apply a little more visage noir? Promise a few more times to not prorogue Parliament? Maybe a few dozen more scandals?
 
 
Howard Higgs
Reply to @Marc Martin: At this point, "Keep bailing" would be good direction. The good ship is listing and taking on water.
 
 
Leonard Smythe
Reply to @Marc Martin: Go read his platform.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Jamie Gillis: No they are not, FACT O'Tool was the Vet minister under Harper and shares the same values. Can you please name 1 Con government who has not done any of the thing i said above ? Cricket....
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Paul William Smith: Be thankful he was in charge when Canada was in a pandemic, you Cons would have had money for only the rich.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Howard Higgs: Libs are up in polls and Cons are down...you where saying ?
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Leonard Smythe: I will never vote for a government that shows more suport to the rich then the average and poor people.
 
 
John Thompson
Reply to @Marc Martin: But you'll support one that leaves the elderly and disabled out to dry or small business in limbo.
 
 
Aaaron Morrris:
Reply to @Marc Martin:
I bet he will have a budget! and he probably won't promise that it will balance itself.
 
 
Jamie Gillis
Reply to @Marc Martin:
The only fact in there was that yes, at one point he was the Min. of Veteran's Affairs. But the CPC is a large tent party with a broad range of views and ideas. I've seen enough of both him and Harper to say they are very different people. And the rest of your argument is fundamentally flawed - making references to previous government's under different leaders doesn't mean anything. It would be as ridiculous as if I said Trudeau's platform was exactly the same as Paul Martins.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @John Thompson: *leaves the elderly and disabled out to dry* First of all all the money out of parliament since the pandemic has been approved by ALL parties why are you accusing all the other parties ? Second what cost more to the ederly and the disabled since the pandemic started ?
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Jamie Gillis: Martin was in power for how long again ? 3 and Harper ? 10...your argument is flawed and alot of problems we are currently experiencing is due to the Harper reign.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Aaaron Morrris: Weak reply...yawnnn
 
 
Jamie Gillis
Reply to @Marc Martin:
What does the length of time previous government were in power have to do with it? And Trudeau has been in power for already 50% of the time Harper was in. Name a "Harper problem" we have today that Trudeau can be excused for not "solving." And then tell me how any of this has anything to do with informing you of what kind of leader Erin O'Toole would be, because you're been going off your original topic for some reason.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you should scroll down N'esy Pas?
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Jamie Gillis: Ill name 3 major one: Phoenix pay centre and the public servant understaffing ( they lost a lot of qualified staff ) SNC Lavalin was signed and given money when Harper was in power.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: Davis my long lost friend !! How have you been ?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks everybody knows we are far from being friends N'esy Pas?
 
 
Shelley King Smith
Reply to @Marc Martin: If we are looking behind instead of forward then by all means lets discuss the Chretien era, I seem to remember something called the sponsorship scandal, there was an official inquiry with a retired judge, envelopes of cash, etc. If there is no problem with Covid relief money and sole source contracts to LIb insiders, perhaps Trudeau would prefer an inquiry? 
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Shelley King Smith: I didn't vote for Chretien, in fact I didn't vote that election. Conservative supporters assume a lot of things right Shelly?
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Amos: We are the best of friends !!! Quick question are we gonna have a Christmas this year ?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Who is WE?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you should have read my comments that were immediately below the your response and mine to your friend Mr Fletcher Nesy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Fletcher
The conservatives were called on their partisan garbage and now have to back it or slink away. An election is coming and Canadians will know that it was the endless conservative hyperbole that forced it.

ABC. More than ever now. ABC.
 
 
Howard Higgs
Reply to @David Fletcher: ABC? Anything but Competence?
 
 
Harry Musket
Reply to @David Fletcher: No, just remember it’s JT who wants it because he’s trying to hide from corruption but keep dreaming.
 
 
Rob Wilkes
Reply to @David Fletcher: Interesting, everyone outside of Lib supporters believe the Libs are trying their best to hide something. Let the committee review and then let Canadians decide.
 
 
John Thompson
Reply to @Howard Higgs: Anything but corruption. Greens, Bloc, NDP, Conservatives, any of those parties.

There is one way the liberals can guarantee themselves a majority, drop Trudeau. He's the only reason they lost a million votes and were dropped to minority status. Unfortunately, too many of the hardcore supporters drank too much of the kool-aid to realize that.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @David Fletcher: I agree.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Fletcher: Methinks many would agree that its high time for another Conservative minority with the Bloc controlling the circus N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks your friend Mr Fletcher should agree that if you snooze you lose sometimes bigtime. Perhaps you should have him in your bubble at come Xmasstime. Aftter you gorge yourself on turkey and butter tarts and have a nap and perchance to dream of Higgy et al versus Maggy and all your other SANB buddies.With Lady Luck on your side Mr Fletcher may awake you from your mid winter's nightmare and calm you down before you have a stroke N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @John Thompson: BINGO  
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Methinks some ethical parliamentarian should question the Prime Minister what is with this ASAP N'esy Pas?

https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-ZL-105-38463?fbclid=IwAR27CbomiBgiFTyup9siLPM7HnH671hwVSMhdrQLuVZFBr1U6SH-Wjhotkk
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos  
Content disabled
Methinks many Canadians are demanding to know right now whether or not this is Fake News N'esy


https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael Harris
Cons willing to change the name of their committee (Anti Corruption committee) have dropped their hand and showed their cards. the Liberals will win on this one as the Cons just signaled they do not want to go to an election. Trudeau has every right as Prime Minister to put a Confidence vote on anything being voted on, a confidence vote is only necessary for any vote on money matters but a Prime minister can call one for anything should he so desire, Lets hope the Cons are not near smart enough to avoid it, as Trudeau and the Liberals would seal a sure 4 more year Majority Government, and that is a good thing.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Michael Harris: Methinks everybody wants to forget the lawsuit I filed in Federal Court in 2015 N'esy Pas?
 
 
Thomas Sowell:
Reply to @Michael Harris: You would lose, like you did the last one
 
 
Chris Shaw
Reply to @Michael Harris: Canadians want accountability of there politicians which includes cor ruption. Who cares what the name is
 
 
Louise D'Amour:
Reply to @Michael Harris: Another day of main lining the kool-aid it seems for you
 
 
Michael Harris
Reply to @Thomas Sowell: who's the Prime Minister? give your head a shake and take a politic course
 
 
Lana Johnson
Reply to @Chris Shaw: The name of the committee is important - right out of the gate the Cons have overreached, again, by suggesting to Cdns that there has been some sort of corruption or misuse of funds - they have no proof of this, but they just like to smear the Gov't at every turn. Enough with the games - let's go to an election.
 
 
Peter Hill
Reply to @Michael Harris: Funny how all the replies you got ignore the reality of the situation.
 
 
Chris Shaw
Reply to @Lana Johnson: o don’t want an election. I want this all investigated and looked at. My taxes pay these people and it deserves accountability. Maybe you don’t pay taxes but some people work hard for there’s. What’s the harm in looking at all this properly?
 
 
Michael Harris
Reply to @Chris Shaw: the cons do, why did they name it that? because it looks bad, it's all they have. they have nothing else but smear, smear, smear and a bunch of angry western reformers and seperatists to spout Trumpian like rhetoric.
 
 
Chris Shaw
Reply to @Michael Harris: hold them all to the same accountability under an anti cor ruption committee. Call it what it is then. The names meaningless. It’s the purpose I want as a taxpayer. Let’s see what all these politicians are doing. I won’t sit here and defend any of them.
 
 
greg getz
Reply to @Chris Shaw: if there was nothing to hide, why the worry? Everyone voted to pass the money that was spent for the pandemic. The Blue can't push this bill through on their own, so it's just not a one sided shear campaign.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Peter Hill: I didn't 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ken Herman:
So....Justin is willing to bring down his own government just to stop an investigation into the WE scandal.......think about that...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ken Herman: Everybody is
 
 
Ken Herman
Reply to @David Amos: I was hoping that the liberal she eep would think about it
 
 
Dylan Haines
Reply to @Ken Herman: Nothing to think about. Nothingburger. Move along.
 
 
Fritz Mahngoy
Reply to @Dylan Haines: from Kielburger to Nothingburger - wow.
 
 
Ken Herman
Reply to @Dylan Haines: If nothing to think about then why try so hard to stop the investigation???? prorogue now possible election? You really support koruption? 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ken Herman: Too bad they can't read my comments Trust that there is something far more important to consider the nobody wants to talk about.
 
 
Bradley Clinton
Even the Lib back benchers are squirming today. Embarrassed and humiliated by the prince.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bradley Clinton: As well they should be
 
 
Louise D'Amour
Reply to @Bradley Clinton: They dont want an election, they want their 6 years and the pension so they can fade away..
 
 
Fritz Mahngoy
Reply to @Louise D'Amour: amazing, all about money - how did we get there ?
 
 
 
 
 
 

Service Provider(s) for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites (6D112-202772/A)

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2020/09/17
Amendment date
2020/10/19
Date closing
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The Government of Canada (GoC) is considering engaging a Third Party Service Provider for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites that will be used to house and care for people for public health and other related federal requirements associated with the COVID-19 pandemic response. The Government is seeking feedback from current service providers about potential options for standing up, operating and managing all of the services associated with these sites. The purpose of this Request for Information (RFI) is to seek feedback from potential service providers in order to develop a strategy for the potential future management of these sites going forward.

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Is this leaked info really Trudeau’s crazy COVID plan for 2021? You decide …

Posted by canadian report on October 14, 2020 02:17
Tags: COVID-19 restrictions, LPC Strategic Committee Leak
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Fw: LPC Strategic Committee LeakInboxLPC leaker <LPC_leaker@protonmail.com>1:47 PM (7 hours ago)

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On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, REMOVED <REMOVED> wrote:

Dear REMOVED,

I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).

I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.

The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:

– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.

Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief. This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided
to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .

Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely. And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.

So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.

All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.

Vancouver, Canada·Posted Today, October 14

 
 
 
 
 

Why Parliament could be on the brink of a snap election — again

Are the Liberals playing a game of chicken with the opposition?

 
Aaron Wherry· CBC News· Posted: Oct 17, 2020 4:00 AM ET 
 
 

(L-R) Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet and Green Party Leader Annamie Paul. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press, Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press, Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)

"This is pure partisan politics," Liberal House leader Pablo Rodriguez said on Friday, referring to a Conservative motion that would have the House of Commons establish an "anti-corruption committee."

It shouldn't surprise Rodriguez — an MP with more than a decade of experience in Ottawa — to find partisan politics going on around him. As gambling is to a casino, partisanship is to Parliament — it's the reason people are there.

And as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau recently observed (speaking of his inclination to continue with byelections in Toronto), Canadians need to know that their democratic institutions are durable and flexible enough to continue functioning even through a public health emergency.


Leader of the Government in the House of Commons Pablo Rodriguez has accused opposition parties of engaging in "pure partisan politics"— as if there were any other kind in the House of Commons. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)

So the operative question isn't who is doing politics here. It's who will end up doing the politics better — or at least less badly. And in this case, the politics comes with the tantalizing possibility of a snap election.

Right now, Liberal MPs are filibustering two House committees over disputes about how to proceed with inquiries into the government's affairs. As a result, the Conservatives now might ask the House on Tuesday to establish the aforementioned "anti-corruption committee."

This committee would pursue several questions the Conservatives have about the government's handling of pandemic-related programs, including the WE Charity affair and allegations that the husband of Trudeau's chief of staff lobbied the government about one program. It also would demand disclosure of any internal government correspondence about the government's decision to prorogue Parliament.

One of the other demands for documents in the Conservative motion — covering 12 years of records from the private agency that handled public speaking appearances by Trudeau, his wife, mother and brother — mirrors an order that was passed by a House committee this summer.

But that previous order expired when Trudeau had Parliament prorogued. There's also an active dispute over whether government officials went too far in redacting information from some documents that have been turned over already.

If the Liberals had a majority in the House, the new Conservative motion would be doomed. They don't, of course — and if the Conservatives are joined by the Bloc Quebecois and NDP in voting in favour, the motion will pass and the creatively named committee will be established.

Prorogation payback

Previous hearings on the ill-fated Canada Student Service Grant did not find any actual corruption before things came to a sudden halt with prorogation in August. The Liberals could claim now that the opposition parties are merely trying to embark on a grand fishing expedition. Even if no outright corruption is ever uncovered, the anti-corruption committee could sustain questions and news stories about the possibility of corruption for weeks.

Conservatives could reasonably reply to the Liberals' claim by pointing out that turnabout is fair play. There was no particular need for Trudeau to prorogue Parliament for a month. He could have allowed House committees to continue meeting while his government prepared a throne speech.

If the prime minister was within his rights to clear the public agenda ahead of that reset, the opposition is within its rights to be even louder in jamming things up again now.

The Liberals are countering the Conservative motion with their own proposal to establish a special committee that would look at all pandemic-related spending by the government — which is similar to an idea already floated by the NDP.

Such a committee could end up looking into some of the same things the Conservatives want to examine (though it's not clear how the Liberals would deal with outstanding demands for document disclosure) but it would take a broader view. Presumably, it also wouldn't be called the "anti-corruption committee."

A confidence game

Rodriguez notably declined to answer directly when he was asked Friday whether the Liberals would treat the Conservative motion as a matter of confidence — that is, whether the prime minister would ask the governor general to call an election if the motion passes.

That leaves open the possibility the government will try to use the possibility of an election as leverage in negotiations between now and Tuesday. (The government also could rearrange the House schedule to push the Conservative motion to a later date.)

"We are entirely focused on the second wave of COVID-19," Trudeau said last Monday when he was asked about the disputes at the House ethics and finance committees. "The Conservatives continue to want to focus on WE Charity. So be it."

It should be possible for politicians to focus on more than one thing at a time, of course. But the Liberals might also believe history shows that voters are willing to look past controversies, purported scandals and parliamentary battles if it seems like the government is properly focused on the major economic and social concerns of the day.


Stephen Harper paid a political price for proroguing Parliament in 2008. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

For five years, the Liberals (and NDP) used the advantages afforded by minority parliaments to pursue their concerns about Stephen Harper's government. But it wasn't until 2015 — after the Liberals had found a popular leader and assembled a deep and ambitious platform — that voters were ready to change governments.

On the other hand, Harper's approach to Parliament and governing probably contributed ultimately to the Conservatives ending up back in opposition. The Liberal decision to prorogue Parliament in August was not unlike the Harper approach.

Erin O'Toole's Conservatives eventually will have to explain what they would do if they were in government. Depending on how things go on Tuesday, they might have to provide a full explanation very soon.

But unless someone really wants an election this fall, there probably won't be one.

Instead, there could be some kind of parliamentary inquiry into the government's economic and fiscal response to the pandemic. And if the Liberals agree to that, it will be because the opposition compelled them. That, at least, is the sort of thing that a minority parliament is supposed to accomplish.

Listen: CBC Radio's The House on Parliament and the WE Charity scandal 

Opposition parties continued to push for further investigation into the WE Charity controversy in two lengthy committee meetings this week. Conservative MP Michael Barrett, Liberal MP Greg Fergus, and the NDP's Charlie Angus join The House to discuss the impasse and the potential to strike a special committee on the matter. 9:45
 
 

About the Author

Aaron Wherry

Parliament Hill Bureau

Aaron Wherry has covered Parliament Hill since 2007 and has written for Maclean's, the National Post and the Globe and Mail. He is the author of Promise & Peril, a book about Justin Trudeau's years in power.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Elon Musk's satellite internet plan gets green light from Canadian regulator

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Methinks Higgy et al should well understand why I gave the Space X office a call today and left a message for their tax lawyer Michael Sylvester N'esy Pas?


 
 
 
 

 

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Elon Musk's satellite internet plan gets green light from Canadian regulator

Tesla co-founder's space company plans to launch 12,000 low-orbit internet satellites

 

Connell Smith· CBC News· Posted: Oct 20, 2020 8:00 AM AT

 


A SpaceX craft launches a cluster of 60 Starlink satellites. More than 800 Starlink satellites are in low Earth orbit, with thousands more to come. (SpaceX, Twitter)

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission has approved an Elon Musk-owned company's application to provide low Earth orbit satellite internet to rural Canadians.

Space Exploration Technologies Corp (SpaceX) is Musk's rocket and spacecraft company.

One of the company's projects is to bring high-speed internet service to hard-to-reach rural areas around the globe by launching thousands of small satellites that will orbit just 550 kilometres above the Earth, vastly speeding interaction with residential computers on the ground.

Traditional telecommunications satellites orbit at more that 20,000 km above the Earth.

The CRTC approval letter is dated last Thursday and addressed to SpaceX's chief financial officer, Bret Johnson.

"The Commission received 2,585 interventions regarding Space Exploration Technologies Corp.'s BITs application," reads the notice.

"After consideration of the comments received, the Commission has approved the application and a BITS licence is enclosed."

The vast majority of the interveners were individual Canadians living in rural areas of the country who support the application.

Aiming for network of 12K satellites

SpaceX has been launching trains of 60 satellites roughly twice a month since May 2019.

The most recent launch took place at Cape Canaveral on Sunday aboard the company's Falcon 9 reusable rocket.

That brings the total number of orbiting Starlink satellites to 835. Eventually, there will be 12,000 satellites in the network.

It is not clear how soon Canadians will be able to access Starlink's service.

SpaceX has said it will begin beta tests on the service with volunteer households in Canada and northern areas of the United States this fall.

Musk, who is also the force behind electric car manufacturer Tesla, has been cautious about predicting how well the service will work, telling attendees at the Satellite 2020 Conference in Washington, D.C., in March that it is aimed at the three to four per cent of rural customers "who simply have no connectivity right now, or the connectivity is really bad."

SpaceX did not respond to a CBC request for comment Monday.

About the Author

Connell Smith is a reporter with CBC in Saint John. He can be reached at 632-7726 Connell.smith@cbc.ca

 

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David Amos
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Methinks this news should make some rural folks such as I Happy Happy Happy N'esy Pas?
   

 


 
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: "The Commission received 2,585 interventions regarding Space Exploration Technologies Corp.'s BITs application," reads the notice.

"After consideration of the comments received, the Commission has approved the application and a BITS licence is enclosed."

The vast majority of the interveners were individual Canadians living in rural areas of the country who support the application."
 
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks Higgy et al should well understand why I just gave the Space X office a call and left a message for their lawyer Michael Sylvester N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
gerard leclerc
Well, I'm paying $100.00 per month, and Xplornet is not working with me at all to help me get 25 mbps here in RURAL New Brunswick! Their speed sukks big time, and every call I make to them , I get the runaround! I will be getting on the bandwagon if this becomes a reality, that's for sure! Waiting for the feds to do something, well I might just be dead by then!
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @gerard leclerc:
Look into a company named Tek Savvy. Not sure if they do NB but say they are national. I've used them for 4 years, rate has never changed, $56 a month. They use Bell and Rogers lines. They have worked great, can have several TVs on the go at same time for Netflix and Crave.
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @Bill Ryerson:
Oh I'm in a small village in Northern Ontario which is remote like you.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Ryerson: Tek Savvy ain't here but my brother in Ontario bragged of it many years ago
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos:
Too bad. Yes they have been great in every regard.
 
 
Rory Weiner:
Reply to @gerard leclerc: I'm like you , other side of the country , but can't wait to tell this overpriced under delivering company to get their equipment off the roof
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Ryerson: too bad you cannot read all my comment but
Sometimes the little guy wins

TekSavvy demands immediate refund from Bell, Rogers after FCA rejects ‘dubious’ appeals of CRTC wholesale rate decision

ISP says it will cease payments until CRTC-ordered rate correction and refund received in full

Sept 11, 2020

TekSavvy Solutions Inc. (TekSavvy) praised today’s unanimous decision from the Federal Court of Appeal (FCA) rejecting appeals filed by Canada’s largest telecom and cable companies (such as Bell Canada and Rogers), who sought to overturn a key CRTC decision concerning the wholesale rates the large carriers charge TekSavvy and the other independent Internet service providers.

In dismissing the appeals with costs, the FCA noted the large carriers’ arguments were of “dubious merit”. The FCA also lifted the Stay on the implementation of the CRTC’s August 2019 rate decision, which confirmed that the large carriers overstated their costs of providing wholesale access to their networks for years, corrected their rates based on evidence of their costs and ordered the large carriers to repay amounts they overcharged competitors over the 3 year process. The CRTC previously condemned the large carriers’ rate-fixing conduct as “very disturbing” because it would drive smaller competitors out of business and deny Canadians choice for Internet services.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: TekSavvy previously filed a formal Complaint with the Competition Bureau, detailing how Bell and Rogers deviated from CRTC-costing rules to inflate wholesale rates they charge competitors, while offering competing retail prices below the wholesale costs they had inflated. TekSavvy submitted that the Government of Canada should order the Competition Bureau to investigate Bell and Rogers’ wholesale rate-fixing activities because it harms competition and keeps Internet prices artificially high at the expense of millions of Canadian consumers.

“The FCA decision is a major step forward in the fight for fair Internet pricing for Canadians. The arguments of Bell and the other carriers have been revealed to be just more baseless tactics designed to stifle competition and keep prices high”, says Andy Kaplan-Myrth, VP of Regulatory and Carrier Affairs for TekSavvy.

Based on the CRTC's August 2019 rate decision and today’s Federal Court of Appeal decision, TekSavvy is owed tens of millions of dollars by the large carriers. Every month, Bell and Rogers continue to game the system and their inflated wholesale rates continue to stifle competition and gouge consumers. TekSavvy expects that the CRTC will once again direct the large carriers to file updated tariffs with the corrected final rates and to refund monies owed, consistent with the CRTC’s prior direction before the Stay. Until that outstanding balance is paid, in full, TekSavvy will be applying the amounts owed, with interest, as a monthly credit on the wholesale fees charged by Bell and Rogers.
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos:
Last year Tek Savvy dropped my price $5.00 without me even knowing what was going on. They sent me a link to my local MP to complain about pricing. I did and even got a reply. But Bell, Rogers, etc did appeal it so the price went back up. They seem to be on our side unlike the Big guys.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Ryerson: Do you now who i am?
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos:
No should I? If so give me a hint.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Ryerson: if I say too much it goes "poof"
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos:
You are in NB?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Ryerson: Yes My middle name is?
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos:
Give me at least a hint.
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos: federal court file No T-1557-15
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Ryerson: I have sued more lawyers than anyone else in history
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos:
Ok I googled it. I thought we might know each other personally.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Ryerson: The Deputy Commissioner overseeing the Competition Act called me today because the feds know I am preparing to file 3 more very important lawsuits One in in defense of the internet etc used by ordinary folks such as you and I
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos:
Keep going. Best I've done is contact my MP and Freeland regarding other issues but they always fall on deaf ears. More power to you. We need more like you.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Ryerson: google assange david amos
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Ryerson: i debate MPs on TV while running against them
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos:
OK. I am very Pro-Assange.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Bill Ryerson: assange is a crook
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos: i am a real whistleblower he just talks about them He approached me in 2009 and i figured out his game before he conned jonsdottier and her IMMI pals and got famous
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos: The Ides of March 2010 for Al Jazeera Iceland WikiLeaks ...
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos:
I'll check it out in the morning. My bed is calling me. Thanks for all the info. Have a great rest of the evening.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Bill Ryerson: My comment are beginning to go poof anyway 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kevin Chelsea
As a rural Canadian who is sick of being fleeced by xplornet and having ZERO other options. I can't wait for Starlink. Canadian companies sat on their hands and did nothing long enough, we want rural internet.
 
 
Lynn Mathews
Reply to @Kevin Chelsea: hope you keep us posted how it works for you when you get it.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Kevin Chelsea: I use a cell to get data
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Elon Tanner
This is great news. It will provide broadband to rural Canadians and it won't cost taxpayers a penny.
Rural broadband - DONE!
 
 
Teddy Clifton
Reply to @Elon Tanner: Can you give us the name of whatever elixir you are on so we can all feel the rapture?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Teddy Clifton: 'SpaceX has said it will begin beta tests on the service with volunteer households in Canada and northern areas of the United States this fall.'
 
 
Teddy Clifton
Reply to @David Amos: "and it won't cost taxpayers a penny.
Rural broadband - DONE!" is my reference to rapture.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Teddy Clifton: Methinks you are conferring with my ghost N'esy Pas?
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Teddy Clifton: Please explain how it will cost Canadian Taxpayers??
 
 
Teddy Clifton
Reply to @John Raymond: I already have--although i don't say taxpayers i say ultimate users of the service. Read my comments on this thread please.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tony Masters
Musk needs to create this network in order to be able to sell autonomous driving vehicles across Canada in the next 10 years. Transportation as a Service
 
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @Tony Masters:
Autonomous passenger vehicles are several decades away.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Are you sure about that?

Speeding Tesla driver caught napping behind the wheel on Alberta highway
Driver and passenger were reclined in their seats while car in autopilot, RCMP say
Wallis Snowdon · CBC News · Posted: Sep 17, 2020 1:55 PM
 
 
Bill Ryerson
Reply to @David Amos:
That's crazy lol.
 
 
Marcel Stanford
Reply to @Tony Masters: Even now people can't afford to buy a car which is why leasing is so popular. One step away from pay as you play, as you suggest.
 
 
Chris McNee
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: they exist in the currant Tesla models however the caution goes something like “use at own risk” Autonomous vehicles have been tested for the last 10 years give or take. The only pushback is from the big 3 Gm, Ford and Chrysler as they are still behind the right ball in technology. Autonomous technology first became proven in the late 70’s through general dynamics and through the skunkworks folks who develop middle systems. The first proven autonomous system was the Patriot system that launches rockets to counter attack a strike. The technology for cars isn’t as advanced but it’s the same principles.
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @Chris McNee:
Autopilot is no more advanced than a half dozen other systems out there. They are not self driving, they are aided cruise control. Autopilot is level 2 autonomy, full self driving is level 5. We're decades away.
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @Chris McNee:
Also, Cadillac has supercruise that's actually more advanced than the Tesla system.
 
 
Rory Weiner
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: lol I think you will be surprised how far off your assumption is
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @Rory Weiner:
How's that?
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @David Amos: Yes. I am. All we have now is advanced cruise control and people who abuse it.
 
 
Tony Masters
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: We are not decades away. Even the auto plants are retooling for this change in their recent contracts. Within 7 years there will be autonomous transportation as a service vehicles. They will be necessary to deal with agin boomers who can no longer maintain a drivers licence. It also solves the whole Uber/Lyft problem too.
 
 
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: And Bill Gates said the internet was just a fad and that nobody would ever need more than 640k of computer memory. You are so wrong on your prediction of autonomous driving it reminded me of Gate's famous words.
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @Tony Masters:
Why would autoplants have to retool for these systems? They'd just be integrated when they switch models.

We're decades away, like it or not.
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
How do you know I'm wrong when I'm making a prediction? Have a crystal ball?
 
 
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: I have watched all the prototypes and I have ridden in a Tesla. The technology is actually here now, but they are still tweaking it to make it even safer. Tweaks don't take decades Joe. Get informed please.
 
 
Tony Masters
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Within the next decade. Check the Linux Hyperledger Network that most manufacturers are already implementing. Automotive Grade Linux
 
 
David Amos 
Content disabled 
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: FYI cruise control on my 1965 Cadillac near killed me years ago but I excused it as being ust a bug in the early design. However even though that was bad enough many moons later a brand new rented Mercury Marquis put my Clan in the ditch in the middle of a snowstorm because it did not offer any indication that I had engaged the cruise control by accidentally touching the button on the steering wheel. I read its manual afterwards and it said not all models have an indicator light. Can you imagine how many souls spun into oncoming traffic instead of landing in a ditch? Methinks they must have fixed it by know Nesy Pas?
 
 
Chris McNee
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: hmmm so the feature that allows you to stand by a mall entrance and summons you passengerless (made up word) car that will drive to you is far more advanced than simple cruise control. The technology of self driving cars exists but not released for public use. I give it about 10 years before it’s an accepted feature.
 
 
David Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Methinks everybody knows the Internet as it benefits the common man is fast going the way of the Dodo Bird just like Free Speech' has N'esy Pas?
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @Fred Brewer:
Autopilot is level 2 autonomy. Level 5 is self driving. Look into before you spout this fanboy nonsense.
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @Chris McNee:
Flying cars, next big breakthrough in batteries, self driving cars and jetpacks are perpetually just a few years away.
 
 
John Dunn
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Some people think that cruise control is for autonomous driving. Results proved not to be helpful.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Oh My My
 
 
John Raymond 
Reply to @Marcel Stanford: Buy a used car, they last just as long. I buy old cars no problems. Bought a 2003 Sunfire with 100'000 km's on it been driving it for 3 years so far and now have 200,000 km's on it. Cost about 2800.00 I have only replaced fuel pump. I have a 2005 4x4 Ram and a 2011 AWD Kia. Why by new?
 
 
Evan Hildreth
Reply to @Tony Masters: "_____ as a Service" is just another way of saying "pay-per-use". So every time I take my kids to daycare I will have to pay Musk. Every time I go to a store I will have to pay Musk, and Musk will know what store I went to. No thanks.
 
 
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: LOL you do realize that very definition of level 2 autonomy is self driving, but a human should (note I said should) be on standby to intervene. This unfortunately has not stopped some idiots from falling asleep while their EV drives them to their destination at 90 miles (yes miles) per hour!!! 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Methinks its rather obvious that your newfound buddy Fred read the article I pointed out to you because you failed to respond to his last poke at you for several hours what wou two dudes don't know is that my son owns a brand new Tesla and I called Musk's tax lawyer in LA today after some of my other remarks went "Poof" Although I am just chopped liver to you two as you went on with your silly spit and chew I do reserve the right to laugh as i read it and save a record of it in my blog which many already know that i did and tweeted about it as well N'esy Pas? 
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos: your blog is fake news, chopped liver 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell
Great , as long as those Canadains who for whatever reasons won't use it don't need to subsidize for it . And if they don't , all the power to them ! Time for Rogers / Bell / Telus to either sharpen their pencils or suffer the consequences .
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Cry me a river
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Lou Bell: The Canadian Government is not subsidizing it. You don't actually know much about starlink do you?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Charles Belair
This sounds like a wonderful way to clog the skies with Musk's equipment and create problems we do not yet fully comprehend.
 
 
Elon Tanner
Reply to @Charles Belair:
Lol.
Clog the skies.
SMH.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Charles Belair: Nope, When no longer needed they are programmed to re-enter earth atmosphere and will burn up. They are already working so well the US military is planning to use them as well.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @John Raymond: True
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Bill Ryerson
The more competition the better.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Ryerson: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
loyd bold
Lots of Rogers and Bell employees on here.
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @loyd bold:
Do you check for Liberals under your bed before you go to sleep?
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Methinks everybody knows that they hide under rocks in my neck of the woods N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Frank Albanese
Well let's hope it's better than the current satellite provider we have available. Would be hard to be worse mind you.......
 
 
Ray Fox
Reply to @Frank Albanese: fibre optics is better
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @Ray Fox:
Fiber op isn't available in most rural locations, no matter how much you say it.
 
 
Rory Cain
Reply to @Ray Fox: Running cable, even fiber, everywhere is old school.
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @loyd bold:
That's a bit paranoid.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Ray Fox: Not available in many places
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Frank Albanese: Oh So True
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Buford Wilson
I can hardly wait.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Buford Wilson: Me Too 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Donald Tupin
The Canadian government should have developed this years ago instead of bowing down to the telcoms. Communication is an essential service that should be nationalized.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Donald Tupin: No the government should not have been paying for this if they did it would be hundreds of billions over budget and would never work.
 
 
Donald Tupin
Reply to @John Raymond: Read that nonsense on your QAnon feed? Should the Canadian military be privatized since the government cant do anything right?
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Donald Tupin: Well Telesat has said they can build one but it will cost billions and will not work as good as starlink.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Donald Tupin: Funny SpaceX has developed rockets faster then NASA ever thought was possible. Starship is already advancing past anything any other country could develop.
 
 
Donald Tupin
Reply to @John Raymond: What is your point? Are you aware Starlink cost over US$10 billion? You want Canada to do it for CAD$10 million?
 
 
Donald Tupin
Reply to @John Raymond: SpaceX has been build on the technology that has been developed by governments over the last 70 years. Musk did not come up with some no magic.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Donald Tupin: Well SpaceX has come up with some of the magic and improved it. No other company or government own as many satellites, no other government can build a rocket as fast as SpaceX. No other company or government can land their booster, no other company or country is building a fully reusable rocket.
 
 
Donald Tupin
Reply to @John Raymond: More and faster does not mean better.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Donald Tupin: Turns out his are better.
 
 
Donald Tupin
Reply to @John Raymond: So you compared his specs to the others? BTW the first ion propulsion rocket was developed by NASA back in the early 1960s not by Musk.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Donald Tupin: Did I say it was developed by Musk?? How many countries have self landing rockets? How many have reusable rockets that can be refurbished in 30 days? By the way did the other rocket company who are they Lockheed have they launched yet.
 
 
Donald Tupin
Reply to @John Raymond: NASA been using ion propulsion for many years. Self landing and reusable does not mean safer. Do you use re-usable condoms?
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Donald Tupin: Not quite the something, let's see Musk has chopped the cost of launches that almost nobody can compete with him. Every country acknowledges that reusable is good.
 
 
Bill Farley
Reply to @Donald Tupin: A quick wash and they're good to go!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Donald Tupin: Dream on
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
James Holden
That's excellent news.
Now High speed internet will be available to rural Canada
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @James Holden:
It's still in beta, but it's a step in the right direction.
 
 
Peter Hill
Reply to @James Holden: yes but just for the 3 or 4% who don’t have any now.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @James Holden: Canadian government holding it up as long as possible. Liberals don't want rural places to have internet.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @John Raymond: Methinks thats because too many rural folks vote for their opposition However the conservatives are no better N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Raymond Berry
This has been years in development, and is long overdue. Why can't Canadians have more competition like this? Musk's pitch is a good one. Why do we pay over 80 dollars a month for decent internet access, which INCLUDES a promise of NETWORK NEUTRALITY? Now on the converse side of things, Musk knows his primary market income is NOT from rural areas, but large cities where people are tired of the needs of shareholders are becoming too high a burden for the average consumer. Rural access was just the foot in the door around the lobbying of the big 4 to keep real competition out. Our relatively small market of 38 million people isn't anything his constellation cannot handle, once it's built out. Advanced testing is already underway, with public beta testing to follow in the new year. Competition works for consumerss, and I have proof. Here in Lloydminster, the open secret to cheaper cell rates is to get a 306 telephone number, because the other carriers have to compete against SaskTel. Teksavvy has been in a long, drawn out court fight with it's wholesale providers of internet services (the same big 4) for discounts that were court ordered and mandated by law, but never received. Now tat a new pipe that is not under their control has been allowed into the marketplace, we'll see if Musk is right and perhaps Canada will finally have fair and reasonable prices for internet services that are not controlled by content creators and/or beholden to old business models that have no place in the 21st century.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Raymond Berry: Actually this is for the rural markets around the world.
 
 
Francis Lee
Reply to @Raymond Berry: If Musk's satellite Internet service is as "cheap" as his cars, his service will be very pricey.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Francis Lee: It will be around 120 Canadian, considering I pay 100 for a system that barely works, I would easily pay Musk 150 - 200 for something that actually works. Musk is often late but he does deliver and sadly for the Liberals it doesn't cost tax payers
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @John Raymond:
SpaceX has used millions in government money.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Really show how much money the Canadian Government has paid towards it.
 
 
Francis Lee
Reply to @John Raymond: There is no guarantee that Musk's network will work any better than presently available alternatives. They haven't even done beta testing yet.
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @John Raymond:
My point still stands.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: To bad your point is wrong, please tell me how much Canadian Money Musk has received for starlink.
 
 
Raymond Berry
Reply to @Francis Lee: Unlike his other venture (Tesla), the aim of Starlink (a subset of his money making venture, SpaceX) is fair and reasonable pricing in markets that do not have fair competition. Canada as an entire country doesn't have much of that since the Harper government allowed the consolidation of content creators, telcos, and legacy cable providers to merge with the intent of restricting competition, not boosting it. I agree that, on technical stuff, network lag will be more than it is on hard wired networks, but that's only important to the online gamer crowd, not for general internet usage or TV/phone services, which most Canadians use. Musk has been called many things, but he's not been called a dumb businessman. He sees that he can deliver a service for less than half what most people pay, and I'm very interested in anything that promotes fair pricing for the consumer.
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @John Raymond:
You said:

"Musk is often late but he does deliver and sadly for the Liberals it doesn't cost tax payers"

He has cost taxpayers money, just not Canadian ones. My point stands.
 
 
Raymond Berry
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Quite true. US government money. He's the low cost provider for NASA, their military, and other private companies with US government contracts. He dared to innovate, where his competitors got stuck wallowing in the 'cost-plus' contractor model, and he's beating them soundly.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Your point is still wrong and as of yet he has not received any money from the US. He will as he beat the requirements but up until now no. So yes you are wrong. Again
 
 
Raymond Berry
Reply to @John Raymond: Explain how allowing mega-mergers boosted competition. There was no such bargain for Canadians in that action. I live in an oil town (Lloydminster) that is hard core Tory territory, and the Harper legacy is just a faded dream here. You can't have it both ways, and the patch is living proof of that. Either you boost competition and allow the marketplace to decide who wins or loses, or you allow M&A's (Mergers and acquisitions) to fatten your campaign wallets, in spite of a crash everyone knew was coming, but was ignored until it was too late. That is why Starlink is an important step forward for hope that real competition from outside the country can do what politicians promised and failed to deliver.
 
 
Francis Lee 
Reply to @Raymond Berry: There is no evidence that SpaceX is currently profitable, and everyone knows that Tesla loses money on every car sold. Most Canadians have fast reliable Internet service. I have Bell MTS Fibe up to 50 mbps in my home in a small rural town over an hour from Winnipeg and would have no use for Musk's network.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Francis Lee: I live 45 km's from Ottawa and you say I have fast reliable internet? Where do I get this? Please tell because nobody knows about this secret. I can show you many areas only 30 minutes from Ottawa some with no internet. But you have stated this is not true. So please tell me where I can get at least 30 mb/s.
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @John Raymond:
"Elon Musk’s growing empire is fueled by $4.9 billion in government subsidies"

LA Times
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: How much of that is Canadian? To the best of my knowledge it is zero, prove me wrong.
 
 
Raymond Berry
Reply to @Francis Lee: I have no complaints against the quality of services in general from the big 4, except that they are very overpriced when compared to service from other providers. I have issues with control over these networks, because if there were no fear of competition, then why is Teksavvy fighting for it's mandated and court backed discounts that were never received? Network neutrality is an issue, because content creators have won the right to censor anything on their systems that threatens their monopolies, in spite of the fact that old business models are not going to be protected in the 21st century. The only way they can maintain control is to own, but the tipping point over what is fair, reasonable, and tolerable to a majority of Canadian households (particularly the costs) has long been passed. This is what is fresh and exciting about Starlink. As for valuation, SpaceX is valued at 46 BILLION dollars. That's a lot of positive cash flow backing this effort. I like what I see coming, and perhaps Bell will lower your rates too once that competition begins to bite them.
Reply to @Raymond Berry: Bell would have to increase my speed by at least 10 times and guarantee that it will not drop for 1 year (It drops everyday right now) as well I want it free for 5 years for all their BS
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @John Raymond:
You never said Canadian taxpayer. You said taxpayer. Are you dense?
 
 
Joanne Cartie
Reply to @Francis Lee: Many Canadians that live outside of cities have no internet or very slow unreliable internet.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Are you?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Joanne Cartier: Everybody in this tread knows that and not hard to figure out who two of them are spinning for Methinks its not rocket science N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Glen Parrott
So the article reads ""The Commission received 2,585 interventions regarding Space Exploration Technologies Corp.'s BITs application," reads the notice.

"After consideration of the comments received, the Commission has approved the application and a BITS licence is enclosed.""

What the heck is BITs??
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Glen Parrott:
Basic International Telecommunications Services (BITS) Licensees
Transmitting Traffic Internationally

BITS licensees are entities that the CRTC has authorized to carry telecommunications traffic between Canada and any other country. Only telecommunications providers that have a BITS licence may carry traffic internationally.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Joe Attard
With any satellite based system the latency will be horrible. It's only a viable alternative if there is no cell service at all. Hardly competition for the big three telcos.
 
 
McCrank Res
Reply to @Joe Attard: Not true. At all. Read up about it.
The difference in Starlink is they are in low orbits so latency is also low, similar to existing broadband.
Compared to what people spend on cell data Starlink is far cheaper.
Forget Bell and Rogers.
Simply search Starlink if you are interested in facts at all.
 
 
Derek Gudmundson
Reply to @Joe Attard: What do you think Bell and Shaw have been using for years to provide cable, even 4k programming?
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Joe Attard: The latency is less then 30 and it is expected to drop below 20 beating rural DSL, in fact it will exceed the latency need to play video games.
 
 
James Holden 
Reply to @Joe Attard:
Low latency from low earth orbit.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Joe Attard: Latency is less then 30
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @McCrank Res: i concur
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lucian Patterson
Finally Bell and Rogers monopoly will end and prices will go down.
 
 
Derek Gudmundson
Reply to @Lucian Patterson: I regret getting a cell phone 6 years ago, now strapped with a $140 bill per month.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Derek Gudmundson: This is not for cell phones.
 
 
Derek Gudmundson
Reply to @John Raymond: ohh I know, just stating.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Lucian Patterson: Methinks rural folks would not be wise to bet the farm on prices going down N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Derek Gudmundson: Me too but I had to in order get the Internet at my abode and my bill is just over 162 loonies for 100 gigs
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Derek Gudmundso
Our government doesn't have a say in it in the first place. Elon Musk is not Canadian, secondly his company SpaceX is not a Canadian company. All our telecommunications regulator's said is "Yes, we'ld be happy to use your product"

These are extremely small satellites that will burn up into dust upon re-entry. So enough about JT, cause I'm sick of you that suffer from PTES putting our Prime Minister's name into the discussion like he decides everything.
 
 
James Holden
Reply to @Derek Gudmundson:
Elon Musk does have Canadian citizenship.
His Mother is Canadian
 
 
Joe MacLeod
Reply to @Derek Gudmundson:
Actually, Elon Musk does hold Canadian citizenship.
 
 
Francis Lee:
Reply to @Derek Gudmundson: Actually Elon Musk, although is a South African living in the US, his first university was Queen's in Kingston.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Joe MacLeod: Surprise Surprise Surprise
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
McCrank Res
Governments in Canada needs to stop spending on providing rural internet.
"We've been talking about it for the last 15 years and we're still no further ahead for the rural communities. So this will be a game-changer, economically."

"bringing Starlink to Canada would be of zero cost to the federal government, with the company apparently asking for no financial support. He said that makes this an easy decision."
Search "Northern towns push to approve Elon Musk's Starlink satellite internet project".
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @McCrank Res: Most likely that is the problem many Liberals want to find a way to waste billions of dollars of tax payer money. Trudeau is giving 2 Billion for Telesat to build a system which they admit will not be as good as Starlink and will take 3-5 years before being operational and they have not even started. Nothing a Liberal likes better then to waste Billions.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @McCrank Res: Amen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Murray Gelatino
"The vast majority of the interveners were individual Canadians living in rural areas of the country who support the application."

Dat a fact, Jack.
 
 
Murray Gelatino
Without evidence?
 
 
Murray Gelatino
SpaceX did not respond to a CBC request for comment Monday.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Murray Gelatino: Well the CRTC said it was. So yeah probably a fact. I guess they could be lying. Yes I am on that list as well. I get 5 mb/s average 3 and pay bell 120 bucks a month and I only live 40 km's from Ottawa.
 
 
Murray Gelatino
 Seems more like you'll have it and like it.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Murray Gelatino: I highly doubt SpaceX will respond the CBC at all.
 
 
 
Troy Bodi 
Reply to @John Raymond: I am on that list as well, as opposed. Musk is reckless and the money should stay in Canada. All the government hast to do is make it a requirement of everyone's license that they must serve the entire region, or not at all. No more cherry picking the dense urban areas and leaving the rest of us out.

I'm jealous of your internet plan though. I pay the same for <1 mbps.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Troy Bodi: So your are in agreement with the Liberals that we should build a poor system and funnel billions for a system that will not work very well and will take upwards of 10 years. No thanks. Musk is better then any group in Canada and cost the Canadian Government zero. If we want to keep the money in Canada then we need to guarantee to have one up and running before Spring of 2021 at a cost of zero dollars to tax payers running as well or better then Musk Starlink.
 
 
James Holden
Reply to @Murray Gelatino:
They were launching another 60 satellites
 
 
Troy Bodi 
Reply to @John Raymond: I don't think WE should build anything. I think Bell or Telus or whomever should build it. Someone (the government) just needs to force their hand. They're not going to invest in low density areas unless they are forced to.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Troy Bodi: Why build something when it is already or about to be working, I guess Liberals do like watching money get wasted
 
 
Troy Bodi 
Reply to @John Raymond: First off, with Musk, Everything is 'already or about to be working' and he has a pretty stellar record of releasing designs into the world in a beta stage to let his fanboys, sorry 'customers' work out the bugs for him.
Second: You're OK with giving up our internet data to an american company? Will SpaceX be paying taxes in Canada on this enterprise?
Third: Bell et al have a pretty well established foundation in Canadian telecommunications. No reason not to continue with that relationship.
Fourth: If you turn everything into a partisan issue, then you look foolish. There is nothing productive about that approach.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Murray Gelatino: YUP
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Troy Bodi: Methinks you should say hey to Martine Turcotte and her many cohorts for me N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Murray Brown
The pious government of Justin Trudeau which preaches global warming is evil that must be fought with taxes on middle income Canadians, is giving approval and permission to Musk to pollute earths atmosphere with 12,000 low earth satellites? Hypocritical.
 
 
June Arnott
Reply to @Murray Brown: The Tool can cancel that, if he wins
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Murray Brown: Trudeau is not giving starlink approval to launch satellites, he has zero say in it at all.

For the thousands of people who either have no internet or have poor internet such as myself this will bring real speed and costs the Canadian government nothing.
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Murray Brown: Fight illiteracy; vote ABC,
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Murray Brown: Wow certainly over the top, unnecessary and factually incorrect. It is not often you see posts with absolutely no semblance of truth to them
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Al Clark: fight corruption toss the liberals
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @John Raymond: fake lake, airbus, karlheinz schreiber...
 
 
Murray Brown
Reply to @John Raymond: .... And result in 12,000 pieces of space junk floating around in our atmosphere.... Space junk that will likely be actual junk by the time Musk's 'vision of the internet' is accomplished... By that time, newer tech will replace his outdated tech and these satellites will be nothing more than a nuisance.
 
 
Derek Gudmundson
Reply to @Murray Brown: Ohhh my, you'll go to no length to stuff JT's name into a subject edge wise.

I think you suffer from PTES. Post Traumatic Election Syndrome, probably should get some meds for that.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Al Clark: SNC, WE, enough said right there
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Murray Brown: You are aware these satellites are programmed at end of life to move into the earth and burn up into nothing.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Murray Brown: Also Trudeau has zero say in the launching of the satellites. 100% Zero say. The little clown is just that a clown
 
 
Derek Gudmundson
Reply to @John Raymond: No he's not. He's too concerned about putting our Prime Minister into the discussion.

That was my first thought when reading the first two sentences in the article. Knowing that it's extremely small, it would simply burn up on re-entry.
 
 
Derek Gudmundson
Reply to @John Raymond: Elon Musk is not Canadian nor is Space X a Canadian company which gives our government even less than zero say.

All our telecommunications regulator said is "Yes, we'ld be happy to use your product"
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks you told Mr Raymond to be nice N''esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @John Raymond: "The little clown is just that a clown"

Methinks you love the circus as much as I N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
June Arnott
so when they start to fall, which all satellites do, who do we get the sue for injuries and damages?
More space junk is not the answer, this is NOT a good plan. But it will make money so who cares right
 
Steven Mallaley
Reply to @June Arnott: It will do like all the other space junk. Burn up and disintegrate upon entry.
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @June Arnott: these satellites are built to burn up upon reentry and everyone is aware of that
 
 
Derek Gudmundson
Reply to @June Arnott: They are small and will burn up into dust upon re-entry.

It's not even close to the size of an actual satellite.
 
 
June Arnott
Reply to @John Raymond: John, be nice, DuPont be condescending
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @June Arnott: You brought it up
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sidney Hamilton
I wonder if I'd be able to get it in my apartment so I'd no longer have to deal with the building's exclusive contract with bell -_-
 
 
John Raymond
Reply to @Sidney Hamilton: as long as you have a place outside to mount the dish., yes.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @John Raymond: I doubt you will need a dish
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Johnny Jakobs
Any competition for BELL is welcomed by me. I'm sick of the monopoly they have and the lack of infrastructure invested in rural communities.
 
 
June Arnott
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Bell doesn't care about its own employees let alone their customers, All about the money!
 
 
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @June Arnott: I agree 100%
 
 
Shawn D. Brenner
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: if you think this service will be sold directly to the public you're dreaming. It will be licensed through Bell and Rogers the typical monopoly game. Maximum profit.
 
 
Guillermo Bright
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Star light Star bright .The first StarLink I see tonight!
 
 
Ahzed Tahad
Reply to @Shawn D. Brenner: There is no indication whatsoever that this is how spacex intends to operate in Canada. In fact these approvals suggest that they will be operating independent of current canadian telcos
 
 
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @Shawn D. Brenner: maybe but I like to dream. Its a definite step in the right direction. As for how it rolls out... no idea. Who sells Tesla vehicles? Ford? Dodge? Toyota?
Maybe they will sell their own product for maximum profit? Like alot of successful companies.
 
 
Joanne Cartier
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Telus is just as bad.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks Higgy et al know that if you were to mention the name of the lawyer Martine Turcotte and me in the same sentence you would get quite chuckle as you watched people's eyes when they used their Bell smart phones to say our names into the Internet N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Me Too
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOhn D Bond 
This will be really good news for remote communities. The governments instead of continuing down the path of subsidizing multiple ISP's in local communities should be allowing free market principals to address the issue now that a player is on the scene with an apparent solution.
Starlink has the potential ability to change the landscape.Companies like Bell/Rogers/Telus/Shaw /Cogeco will be forced to compete on a different basis which will be good for the consumer.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: You don't say
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Darren Croft
Skynet you say
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Darren Croft: Not yet
 


 

 

https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2020/lt200706.htm 

 

Telecom - Procedural letter addressed to Michael Sylvester (Space Exploration Technologies Corp.)

Ottawa, 6 July 2020

Our reference: 8190-S206-202002799

BY EMAIL

Mr.  Michael Sylvester
Space Exploration Technologies Corp.
1 Rocket Road,
Hawthorne, CA 90250
michael.sylvester@spacex.com

RE: Basic International Telecommunications Services (BITS) Licence for Space Exploration Technologies Corp.

Dear Mr. Sylvester:

On 1 May 2020, Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX) filed a registration letter which included a request to obtain a Basic International Telecommunications Services (BITS) licence.

On 20 May 2020 the Commission published SpaceX’s BITS request on the Commission’s website and provided an opportunity for any interested parties to file interventions by 26 June 2020, commenting on SpaceX’s request. 

The Commission received a number of interventions, both in support of and in opposition to this request, which have been added to the public record of this proceeding available on the Commission’s website under the link ”Closed BITS licences”. 

After further analysis Commission staff consider it necessary to provide SpaceX with an opportunity to reply to the interventions submitted to the Commission.

Therefore, SpaceX may, by 17 July2020, file a reply with respect to the interventions submitted to the Commission.

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Original Philippe Tousignant

Philippe Tousignant
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TekSavvy demands immediate refund from Bell, Rogers after FCA rejects ‘dubious’ appeals of CRTC wholesale rate decision

ISP says it will cease payments until CRTC-ordered rate correction and refund received in full

Sept 11, 2020

TekSavvy Solutions Inc. (TekSavvy)  praised today’s unanimous decision from the Federal Court of Appeal (FCA) rejecting appeals filed by Canada’s largest telecom and cable companies (such as Bell Canada and Rogers), who sought to overturn a key CRTC decision concerning the wholesale rates the large carriers charge TekSavvy and the other independent Internet service providers.

In dismissing the appeals with costs, the FCA noted the large carriers’ arguments were of “dubious merit”. The FCA also lifted the Stay on the implementation of the CRTC’s August 2019 rate decision, which confirmed that the large carriers overstated their costs of providing wholesale access to their networks for years, corrected their rates based on evidence of their costs and ordered the large carriers to repay amounts they overcharged competitors over the 3 year process. The CRTC previously condemned the large carriers’ rate-fixing conduct as “very disturbing” because it would drive smaller competitors out of business and deny Canadians choice for Internet services.  

TekSavvy previously filed a formal Complaint with the Competition Bureau, detailing how Bell and Rogers deviated from CRTC-costing rules to inflate wholesale rates they charge competitors, while offering competing retail prices below the wholesale costs they had inflated. TekSavvy submitted that the Government of Canada should order the Competition Bureau to investigate Bell and Rogers’ wholesale rate-fixing activities because it harms competition and keeps Internet prices artificially high at the expense of millions of Canadian consumers.

“The FCA decision is a major step forward in the fight for fair Internet pricing for Canadians. The arguments of Bell and the other carriers have been revealed to be just more baseless tactics designed to stifle competition and keep prices high”, says Andy Kaplan-Myrth, VP of Regulatory and Carrier Affairs for TekSavvy.

Based on the CRTC's August 2019 rate decision and today’s Federal Court of Appeal decision, TekSavvy is owed tens of millions of dollars by the large carriers. Every month, Bell and Rogers continue to game the system and their inflated wholesale rates continue to stifle competition and gouge consumers. TekSavvy expects that the CRTC will once again direct the large carriers to file updated tariffs with the corrected final rates and to refund monies owed, consistent with the CRTC’s prior direction before the Stay. Until that outstanding balance is paid, in full, TekSavvy will be applying the amounts owed, with interest, as a monthly credit on the wholesale fees charged by Bell and Rogers. 

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Methinks Madame Shephard must know by now that the Medavie officials should be regretting their minions threatening litigation against me today N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Mayors blast 'terrible' rural ambulance response times

Auditor general report shows poor rural response times masked by urban data

 

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Oct 21, 2020 4:00 PM AT

 


In many rural and remote communities, Ambulance New Brunswick fails to respond to 90 per cent of calls within its target of 22 minutes. (Catherine Allard/Radio-Canada)

Mayors and community leaders in small–town New Brunswick say they weren't surprised at all by this week's scathing report by the auditor general about ambulance response times.

The audit shows that in many rural and remote communities, Ambulance New Brunswick fails to respond to 90 per cent of calls within its target of 22 minutes.

"It's terrible," said Belledune Mayor Joe Noel. "It shouldn't be allowed and there's no need for it."

But those shortfalls are obscured, and don't count against ANB's performance payments, because they're combined with better response times in urban centres for measuring performance--which is allowed under the company's contract.

Blackville Mayor Chris Hennessy said the report is a vindication for him.

"They basically bury the rural stats in the urban numbers so they never show the bad with the good," he said.

"I know people thought I was crazy when I was preaching about this for the last five years … so I'm glad somebody uncovered that." 

Rural vs. urban response

The aggregation of the numbers allows Medavie Health Services New Brunswick, which operates the ambulance service, to collect $650,000 a year for hitting the broader 90-percent target in four large zones that include cities and towns. 

"They're meeting them on the backs of the rural areas," Noel said.

"That's exactly what happens here. When an ambulance goes out in Campbellton or Bathurst, they take the ambulance from Belledune and send it to Bathurst or Campbellton to sit there, whether it gets a call or not...


"It's terrible," says Belledune Mayor Joe Noel. "It shouldn't be allowed and there's no need for it." (Ian Bonnell/CBC)

"That's where the calls are and that's why they're doing it: because it makes their numbers look good." 

Harvey Mayor Winston Gamblin said response times in the village are good when the ambulance happens to be at its local station. 

But when it's been shifting elsewhere, paramedics have a hard time reaching some locations within 22 minutes.

"We feel that if you live in a rural area, you have to take second best, and that's the way it came out in the report yesterday -- that we're second class citizens and [they say] 'we'll get there when we can,'" he said.

Ambulance targets

Under Medavie's contract with the province, ambulances must hit response targets 90 per cent of the time for the organization to receive performance payments.

The targets are to reach the scene of a call within nine minutes in 16 urban areas and within 22 minutes everywhere else in New Brunswick.

The audit found that in 19 out of 67 communities, ANB fell short of the 90 per cent goal. 

But because response times are blended together within four large zones, it "masked" the poor numbers in those rural, remote communities, Auditor General Kim Adair-MacPherson said Tuesday.


Auditor General Kim Adair-MacPherson's audit said the system "has introduced a bias toward achieving high performance in areas of greater population density, to the detriment of rural or remote communities where 911 calls occur less frequently." (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Her audit said the system "has introduced a bias toward achieving high performance in areas of greater population density, to the detriment of rural or remote communities where 911 calls occur less frequently."

Rural areas were at a disadvantage because the system is "reducing the emphasis on improving performance in those areas," allowing Medavie "to focus resources on urban areas while having decreased performance in outlying communities."

In a statement released Tuesday, Medavie Health Services New Brunswick president Richard Losier agreed the average response time "varies from community to community."

But he pointed out what Adair-MacPherson's audit acknowledged: that the contract doesn't rate performance community by community but in four large zones.

"MHSNB is always open and willing to work with our government partners to improve the services to the people of New Brunswick," he said.

Medavie mum

Medavie did not respond to a request Wednesday for an interview with Losier.

On Tuesday Health Minister Dorothy Shephard said she was talking to Medavie officials about renegotiating the contract, which was renewed in 2017 for another 10 years.

Noel said rural response times should carry more weight in measuring ambulance performance.

"When you're 25 minutes away from a hospital to start with, that's where you need the response times," he said.

Belledune had the lowest number of any community measured by the auditor general: ambulances reached their destination within 22 minutes in only 69 per cent of calls.


On Tuesday, Health Minister Dorothy Shephard said she was talking to Medavie officials about renegotiating the contract, which was renewed in 2017 for another 10 years. (Government of New Brunswick)

Marc Henrie, the former chair of the Saint-Paul local service district north of Moncton, said he was not surprised to see the Fords Mills ambulance station with the second-worst rate in the report.

Ambulances based there reach calls within 22 minutes in only 70 per cent of cases.

"The auditor general just released proof that rural citizens are sadly taken as citizens of a second-class," he said.

Henrie chaired the LSD when Ambulance New Brunswick decided to put its bay in Fords Mills rather than in another location closer to Saint-Paul and Route 126, where he says most people in the area live.

"The numbers are not surprising at all," he said.

Sometimes ambulances responding to calls in the Saint-Paul area are sent from Salisbury, even though Moncton is closer. Henrie believes it's so ambulances based in Moncton can stay there and respond to calls in and around the city. 

"It's clear that it's not strategic and it's not what's for the well-being in an emergency situation," he says.

Gamblin says he's glad to see the auditor general put the spotlight on the problem but worries it will discourage people from moving to smaller communities. "It's not an advertisement for rural areas," he says. 

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Jacques Poitras

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Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit.

 

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David Amos
"Health Minister Dorothy Shephard said she was talking to Medavie officials about renegotiating the contract, which was renewed in 2017 for another 10 years"

Methinks Madame Shephard must know by now that the Medavie officials should be regretting their minions threatening litigation against me today N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: threatened litigation? Take em down, you don't lose when it comes to the court room nesy pas!!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
MethinksHiggy et al know why Mayor Joe Noel and I should have a long talks ASAP N'esy Pas?
  
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Mayor Joe Noel should not deny that I tried to talk to him
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks Higgy et al are gonna regret that I enjoyed talking to Mayor Joe Noel and that I liked the fact he was honest with me N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks to be fair to all I should contact Mayors Winston Gamblin and Chris Hennessy too N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Well I called them but ain't heard back from them yet 
 
 
David Amos
Methinks it High Time N'esy Pas?
 
 
Al Clark 
Reply to @David Amos: methink it always high time in your trailer naysay paws?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Al Clark: trailer. You mean dumpster
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chantal LeBouthi 
This isn’t about caring about poeples who need help but about getting bonus

Pathetic Bernard lord pathetic
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Welcome back to the circus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOhn D Bond
So first the auditor general, now the mayors, soon to be followed by a litany of experts on both sides of the fence.
In the meantime, the important individual in this discussion, the patient in need of an ambulance is left holding the proverbial bag. Not necessarily because of a bad contract with Medavie, but more because of the chronic under funding of the entire health care system by successive NB government. Shortage of Nurses, Shortage of Doctors, Shortage of Specialists, Shortage of ambulances, Shortage of LTC facilities. the only thing we seem to have a surplus is under performing politicians. Example, NB,1 MLA per 17,700 residents, Que, 1 MLA per 67,400 residents, Ont, 1 MLA per 117,500 residents. Have to wonder are we getting 10 times the value from our elected representatives? Doesn't seem to be the case.
 
 
Charlie Papa
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Good observation. if you read through the report she clearly states that the number of resources has not changed but the volume has had a significant increase. you write a contract knowing that you don't have enough resources get to all the calls 100% so you allow a certainly level of error... 10% in this case. if you want things to improve someone has to pay for it... Rural NBrs may have to see their taxes go up.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Charlie Papa: Absolutely goes back to the funding shortfall by the provincial government. Stealing from Peter to pay Paul is what they do. It needs to stop.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Charlie Papa: Methinks Higgy et al will never admit what the fancy beancounter in Fat Fred City ain't telling us is far more interesting N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sammy Kofax
I agree this smells bad, but besides the shady practices, hummm you live in a REMOTE area. You want faster times, move closer to the city. We can't have an ambulance waiting on every side road waiting for calls....
 
 
Chantal LeBouthi 
Reply to @Sammy Kofax:

Never ever
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Sammy Kofax: Methinks everybody finally knows this stinks to the high heavens N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Paul Estey
My question is why is there in some cases a second Ambulance NB vehicle(usually an SUV Dodge Durango rushing to most calls as well. They are apparently Advanced EMT´s. Why not just put an advanced EMT in every ambulance, the savings would be astronomical considering costs for for operating these second vehicles(cost for the vehicle, gas, insurance)..use these savings to advance ANB...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Paul Estey: I repeat are you the former member of the Fat Fred City Finest who worked at the court house when your buddies stole my Harley in 2007 then lost your job for interesting reasons to say the least?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jake Quinlan
Follow the money. Someone is signing off on this . Performance bonuses for healthcare delivery in this province??. Who are all the players complicit? This is so gd irritating.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jake Quinlan: Methinks the Auditor General ain't telling us everything just like she never does with NB Power N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell
Someone needs to check who the key shareholders are for ANB and Medavie . I think we'd find the SANB backed Assumption Life maybe ?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou DumBell: CRY ME A RIVER

Methinks your buddies Cardy and Higgy and even your SANB cohorts Maggy and Marc know that ain't rocket science N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Al Clark
Interesting, isn't it, how easy it is for someone WITH an education can get one over on someone Higgy picked because of how his genius grand-daddy voted!!
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks you and your lawyer should say Hey to your heroes Higgy et al and the RCMP for me ASAP N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Johnny Jakobs
Thievery at its finest. Government knew they have been altering their numbers.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Who is a grouch?
 
 
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @David Amos: its Ray's avatar...
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: its Dave popping his head out for butter tarts
 
 
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @Ray Oliver: who was Sergeant Slaughter? Your grandmothers favorite wrestling character or an off duty cop?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Gammy was a hacksaw Jim Duggan fan
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: I hope you know who this dude is
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Joseph Carrier
Joey used to be an ambulance driver, which Jacques failed to identify..
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Joseph Carrier: Surprise Surprise Surprise
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks everybody knows your buddies whom you and Risdon used to write spin for own Ambulance NB N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Gerry Ferguson
I've never had to call an ambulance before and hope I never do, because I live out in the sticks!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Gerry Ferguson: Me Too
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Gary MacKay
I am looking forward to an apology from the Mayor of Saint John for not only receiving a multi million dollar support payment from every taxpayer in NB, now an added subsidy from the rural folks. His constant wining that they don't pay their way has absolutely no merit IMO.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Gary MacKay: Good Luck getting one
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ian Miller
Good to know that emergency services are set up to get bonuses on peoples lives...all people involved should be charged for this system..no wonder its a news story...they fix their own times anf ignore the long ones...wow im disgusted by this
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ian Miller: Methinks you are not alone N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Matt Steele
The Ambulance provider certainly shouldn't be fudging the books to fill their pockets ; but the response time for any emergency service in the rural areas is very slow to non existent . Call the RCMP at 4 am some time , and see how slow their response time is ; or the volunteer fire service . People keep demanding that rural areas pay more taxes , yet rural folks get next to zero services . Rural folks are lucky if the govt. even sands their roads in the winter .
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks many would agree with me that you are very wrong the volunteer fire service folks but you would never admit it N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
John Smith
Plus the ambulances aren't allow to go more than 10 kilometres OVER the speed limits so lets hope they don't hit many 50 or 60 km speed limits on the way to your house.
 
 
Matt Steele
Reply to @John Smith: ....The speed restrictions on Ambulances were put into place after some serious accidents involving Ambulances that were traveling to fast and recklessly . It is far better for the Ambulance to follow the speed limit , and get there safely ; rather than have them driving at high speeds , and becoming involved in serious accidents in which the Ambulance crews , patients , and others could be killed .
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks you would change your tune if you were one of their clients n'esy Pas/
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you would change YOUR tune if plowed into at the corner of Crown and Union......
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks your RCMP buddies if they were remotely ethical would agree that is an implied threat hinting about the location involved in trial going on in Saint John right now. i have no doubt whatsoever if you had posted such a thing directed at a politician such as Teddy Flemming in a public forum the Keystone Kops would be knocking on you door and asking to expalin your comment real slow N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: no, because its a chat forum on a website and means absolutely nothing. Get a clue
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks Higgy et al should have had your RCMP buddies say hey to their favourite shill many moons ago N"esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: yet I still run free! I'm as shocked as you are. Guess those emails you send go exactly where we all know they do
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: There's a guy on trial in freddy right now that's shares your paranoia and delusions.........
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks you and you lawyer should say Hey to your fellow Keystone Kops in Fat Fred City who stole my Harley registered in the the US of A in 2007. Whereas you know so much about me I trust YOU know that Higgy et al, the RCMP and the FBI all know about the SNB deliberately losing the record of my motorcycle being stored at Capital City Towing illegally after the Yankee cops and the Insurance Bureau Of Canada failed in their false allegations against me being a thief and a Hells Angel etc N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chuck Gendron
Well now we know that ANB has very little ethics, they are no better then thieves.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Chuck Gendron: This is not news to me and many others.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Paul Bourgoin
Have a look at your roads and you hospital parking!! Then you will understand!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Yea Right
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Andrew Taylor
Imagine allocating resources to a population but instead of using logic and reasoning you try to give everyone the same ambulance response rates. Am I stupid for thinking this way? honest question.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Andrew Taylor: Do you really want an answer?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lorelei Stott
why did it take 5 years to get an audit done? seems like a big fish that should have had eyeballs on it from the get go? oui? non?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Lorelei Stott: Go Figure
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Brian Robertson
Any expectation that an ambulance can be dispatched to a remote rural location, and then arrive at a time comparable to urban services is ludicrous.
How does police service compare?
Or how about fire services?
Next some of these dreamers will be complaining about the lack of sidewalks and street lights.
 
 
Michael Collins
Reply to @Brian Robertson: If you read the article you would see that the contract states expected response times of 9 minutes for urban areas and 22 minutes for rural areas. No one is expecting them to be similar, but fudging the numbers to make it appear they are meeting the response times in all areas, in order to collect bonuses close to a million dollars a year, is border line criminal.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Michael Collins: I concur
 


 

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"Lizotte said appointments aren't necessary, but each person needs to have a New Brunswick Medicare card" Methinks Mayor Joe Noel of Belledune should have called me back by now N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Campbellton region 'on verge' of return to red phase after new cases

Restrictions tightened as Public Health sees strong signs of community spread of disease

 

Gail Harding, Jordan Gill· CBC News· Posted: Oct 22, 2020 7:27 AM AT

 


Higgs said he was concerned with the increasing number of cases in Zone 5 and while the zone technically remains in the orange stage, that may not be the case for long. (Serge Bouchard/Radio-Canada)

More restrictions have been announced for the Campbellton region, which recorded three new cases of COVID-19 Thursday, almost two weeks after it was pushed back to the orange phase of recovery.  

The new cases consist of one person in their 40s and two in their 50s. 

While Zone 5 will remain in the orange stage, people will be limited to interacting with a single household bubble, Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Jennifer Russell said.

Meanwhile, Belledune, which is not in Zone 5, will have to follow the new restrictions, and Kedgwick, which is in Zone 5, will be exempt.

Russell said there are four separate chains of infection in the region that cannot be linked.

"This is a strong indication that community spread is happening," she said. 

Premier Blaine Higgs said he'd hoped that by moving the region back earlier this month from yellow to orange in the recovery process that the spread of the virus would be contained. That hasn't happened, he said, and about 300 people are now self-isolating in the region because they're at risk of developing COVID-19.



(CBC)

And while the zone technically remains at orange, that may not be the case for long.

"When I think about [the] Campbellton region and Zone 5, I think … we're on the verge of going back," Higgs said, referring to the red phase that the whole province was placed under early in the pandemic.

"We do not want to ... turn it into a red. We are on the verge of making a decision, though, that would significantly impact the economy and the livelihoods."

Higgs said travel into and out of the zone is "highly discouraged" but stopped short of saying it was forbidden.


'When I think about [the] Campbellton region and Zone 5, I think … we're on the verge of going back,' Higgs said, referring to the red phase that the whole province was placed under early in the pandemic. (Government of New Brunswick)

Under the red stage, which is still a possibility for the region, all elective and non-urgent medical procedures would be postponed.

K-12 schools would become virtual only but daycares would remain open. Restaurants would only be able to offer drive-thru, delivery or takeout. and only drive-in church services would be allowed

Gyms, cinemas and barbers world remain closed but most retail businesses could remain open as long as they had an operational plan.

Provincial guidelines give four criteria for when a red stage could be introduced: three unlinked chains of community transmission in six days, the health-care system being overwhelmed, outbreaks not being controlled through testing and public health measures not being effective.

There are now 81 active cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. There were 714 tests for the virus in the province on Wednesday, bringing the total number of tests to 95,036.

The province has had 322 total cases since the pandemic began with 237 recoveries and four deaths.

Five people are now hospitalized because of the virus, including one in intensive care.

Higgs doesn't rule fines for violators

The province released some sobering statistics about the outbreak in the Campbellton region.

Over 16 days in October, the provincial positive test average was less than one per cent, but in Zone 5 it was 4.24 per cent.

While the province has an average of 14.39 cases per 100,000 "in Zone 5 the ratio is 245 cases per 100,000 people," and "COVID-19 is more prevalent in Zone 5 than anywhere else in Atlantic Canada."

Russell said she understands some residents may feel shamed and she's not looking to blame anyone for the outbreak, but she suggested people living in the area were not limiting their social contacts as much as they should be.

"Expanding the household bubbles too widely, obviously in the situation that is happening right now in the Campbellton-Restigouche area, we cannot maintain,"

Higgs said he had hoped that returning Zone 5 to the orange level would be enough to lower rates of transmission, but it has not been, which necessitated the increased restrictions.

"We will assess these activities through testing, through adherence, through additional staffing of compliance officers and, yes, fines if necessary, because we must get back under control," said Higgs. 

Moncton moves forward to yellow again

While restrictions are increasing in Zone 5, the government is loosening restrictions in Zone 1, the Moncton region, although both have had outbreaks in recent weeks.

Moncton's active cases now stand at 25, and Dr. Jennifer Russell, the chief medical health officer, said its outbreak has been brought under control. The first cases in the Moncton outbreak were reported the first week of October, and the outbreak went on to include residents, staff and family at the Manoir Notre-Dame special care home.

"We are seeing fewer cases related to that outbreak and have identified links among all the reported cases," Russell said Thursday.

With no new cases in Zone 1, the region will move Friday from orange to the less restrictive yellow stage of COVID-19 recovery. All other health zones, with the exception of the Campbellton region, have been under some stage of the yellow phase since May 22.


Dr. Jennifer Russel, the chief medical officer of health, said Moncton's outbreak has now been brought under control. (Government of New Brunswick)

Under yellow, Zone 1 residents will be able to meet with people beyond a two-family bubble although, as in the rest of the province, they should limit groups.

Uncontrolled indoor or outdoor gatherings with physical distancing can be held with crowds of 50 or fewer.

Gyms, cinemas and hair-styling businesses can also reopen in yellow

Zones 5 will be the only health region of the province in the orange stage of recovery as of midnight Thursday night. Everywhere else will be in the yellow stage.

Case at NB Power plant

As Belledune has moved back into the orange stage of recovery CBC News has learned that an employee of NB Power's Belledune Generating Station in the village has tested positive for COVID-19.

Joe Noel, the mayor of Belledune, said NB Power informed him of the positive test on Sunday.

"They said they had someone who had tested positive and that some other employees were being tested," said Noel.

Noel said he didn't know if the worker was from Belledune or from another community.

During her briefing on Thursday, Russell would not confirm there was a case at the Belledune plant or if the case was the reason for the area being moved into the orange stage. She cited privacy reasons.

"The decision around … Belledune in terms of how they're included or not included in Zone 5 is based on our risk assessment," Russell said.

NB Power also declined to comment on the case at the plant.

"Any questions related to COVID should be directed to Public Health," said NB Power spokesperson Marc Belliveau.

Mass testing for Zone 5 this weekend

Public Health and Vitalité Health Network will hold two days of mass testing for COVID-19 in the Campbellton region, or Zone 5, on Saturday and Sunday.

"The objective is to get an accurate picture of the prevalence of the virus in the community given the current outbreak in that region," Vitalité spokesperson Thomas Lizotte said in a release Thursday. 

As of Wednesday, there were 57 actives COVID cases in Zone 5, and it remains in the orange phase of recovery, behind almost all other health zones in the province. Moncton is also in orange but could move to the less restrictive yellow phase on Friday.

This week, the province also recorded the fourth death related to COVID-19, Dalhousie resident, Rheal Vautour, 71.

Saturday's testing will be held at the Memorial Regional Civic Centre in Campbellton and Sunday's will be in Dalhousie at Inch Arran Arena. Testing will be done from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m. each day. 


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Lizotte said appointments aren't necessary, but each person needs to have a New Brunswick Medicare card.

"Screening tests will be done on a first come, first served basis." 

Those attending are advised to dress warmly since people will be waiting outside at times. 

"All testing done during these two days is only intended for people who do not have any symptoms of COVID-19," Lizotte said in the release.Those with symptoms are asked to request a test online or call Tele-Care 811 to get an appointment at the nearest screening centre. 

"The network would like to remind people about the importance of following health advice to protect themselves and their loved ones, which is to wear a mask, maintain two metres of physical distancing and wash their hands often."

Mass testing was conducted in Restigouche County during Zone 5's first outbreak in June. 

Dalhousie high school remains closed after 2nd case reported

Dalhousie Regional High School remained closed Thursday and Friday after a second case of COVID-19 was confirmed at the northern New Brunswick school. 

Public Health said the second case has no connection with the previously identified case at the school in Dalhousie.


Mass testing will be held Saturday from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m. at the Memorial Regional Civic Centre in Campbellton. (Serge Bouchard/Radio Canada)

A decision on when the school will reopen will be made Friday, Anglophone School District North superintendent Mark Donovan advised parents and guardians in a letter posted on the school's website and Facebook page.

Students from Grade 6 to 12 will continue virtual learning until then. 

Students expected to show up when schools open

Six schools in Zone 5, the Campbellton region, have had confirmed cases of COVID-19, including all four schools in Dalhousie, one in Campbellton and one in Balmoral.

And Anglophone School District North says all students are expected to attend school unless they have a doctor's note.

"If parents choose to keep students home when schools are open, there is no expectation for teachers to provide work for those students," superintendent Mark Donovan told parents and guardians in a letter published online.

Donovan said schools or classrooms would be closed for one of two reasons: by direction of Public Health or because of operational problem. One operational issue would be an inability to find replacement staff or supply teachers. 

"A classroom or school may need to close, simply because there are not enough staff to operate the class/building." 

No student-to-student transmission has been recorded in any school to date, said Public Health.

What to do if you have a symptom

People concerned they might have COVID-19 symptoms can take a self-assessment test on the government website at gnb.ca. 

Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included: a fever above 38 C, a new cough or worsening chronic cough, sore throat, runny nose, headache, new onset of fatigue, new onset of muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell, and difficulty breathing.

In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

People with one of those symptoms should:

  • Stay at home.

  • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.

  • Describe symptoms and travel history.

  • Follow instructions.

 

 

 

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Tamara MacMillan 
We are told to limit to a one household family but our local school is still open. I am considered Zone 5 but we border Belledune. One minute Belledune is excluded than now included. I wish someone would set the Zones finally for all to understand.
 
 
Joseph Carrier
Reply to @Tamara MacMillan: Tide Head to Dalhousie-Charlo basin to the Chaleur and Lorne LSDs to Belledune/JR is a big region, as we interact countless of times a week for everything...Our 20,000+ people are always at high risk of transfer because we tend to share numerous services and are connected by family and culture...The number of cases is no surprise...You're taking 125 communities here, both past, merged, and present...  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell
Hard to convince self entitled people they can save the lives of others . Social media and greed will do that to you .
 
 
Amajor Hall 
Reply to @Lou Bell: you obviously went to the region and saw all the entitled and selfish people to make this hyperbolic and disproportionate conclusion! Covid doesn't care!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Carlson MacKenzie
Wear your masks. They might save you anti-maskers from drowning if you go out in the rain.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: A bit of rain never hurt anyone. People would be well advised to spend more time going for walks in the rain and less time inside public spaces in close contact with other people.
 
 
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Apparently you didn't get it. I was referring to the myth that turkeys stare up at the sky with open mouths in the rain which leads to their death from drowning hence equating anti-maskers, etc. with turkeys who have the reputation of being dumb. You follow?

Your statement is true.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Here's the question: did *anyone* get it besides you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

Pregnant woman fends off coyotes in Woolastook Park

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Methinks Higgy and Mikey Holland should ask their Irving buddies or the all knowing liberal Robert Kitchen and the spindoctor/RCMP shill"Ray Oliver" why the wild life are coming to town N'esy Pas?

 
 
 
 
 
 

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Pregnant woman fends off coyotes in Woolastook Park

One dog bitten during incident in park southwest of Fredericton, fire official says

 

Gail Harding· CBC News· Posted: Oct 21, 2020 11:27 AM AT

 


A pregnant woman had to be checked out at hospital after she and her dogs encountered coyotes in Woolastook Park, a 30-minute drive southwest of Fredericton. (City of Calgary)

A woman who is nine months pregnant was able to fend off three or four coyotes that surrounded her and her two dogs while she was out walking in Woolastook Park on Tuesday morning, says Chief Murray Crouse of the Upper Kingsclear Fire Department. 

"They were surrounded by three or four coyotes that surrounded and tried to get the dogs," Crouse said Wednesday.

The woman was able to call 911 for help and kept scaring away the coyotes from her and the dogs, he said. 

"She got off the trail trying to protect the dogs, and she didn't know for a few minutes where she was. Of course, in all the excitement I could see that happening."

Crouse said the coyotes were gone when his department arrived at the park southwest of Fredericton, but firefighters found one of the dogs had been bitten. 

"We took it in to the vet and dropped it off there, and she went to get checked out at the hospital as well because she was nine months pregnant."

Crouse said there are coyotes in the area that can be heard howling at night. Some cats in the area have disappeared. 

"But as far as attacking when there's people there no, I never … it's the first time I come across that." 

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David Amos 
Methinks Higgy should ask Mikey Holland and their Irving buddies why the wild life are coming to town N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: Woolastook Park is not town. You should find the # for the Coyote give him a call and some advice! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson 
 !2 gauge shotgun works good in that situation.
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: 12...or 10
 
 
Miso Honey
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Have you asked the park owners if they are okay with you walking around with a shotgun at their campground ?
 
 
John Grail
Reply to @Miso Honey: Gun owners typically don't care what other people think...
 
 
John Grail
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: So would dog spray. Coyotes are generally opportunists.
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Miso Honey: I am in our own park, it's called rural, and it changes every time you set foot in it.
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @John Grail: Yup, dogs, curs, masters of the multiverse .
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @John Grail: Not when they are getting mouthed at..
 
 
Robert Kitchen
Reply to @John Grail: Really I'm a gun owner could you expand on your comment and explain to me how you came to this conclusion ? Is it because I own guns I don't have to worry about what people think ? Wow !
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Kitchen: Methinks as a liberal politician you should be concerned about what I thought of your libel N'esy Pas?
 
 
Robert Kitchen
Reply to @David Amos: Again your making comments that are misinformed. Wrong Robert Kitchen. So try another angle big shooter. By the way I'm as conservative as it gets. Good Luck ! Methinks you are very transparent, N'esy Pas?
 
 
Dave Shimla 
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: around my neighborhood we snare them to keep the numbers low. We have alot of cats/dogs chickens , calves, and sheep go missing every year. Hammering them with a 243 works well too ;)
 
 
Dave Shimla
Reply to @Robert Kitchen: John grail is a religious vegan, those people don't care what other people think
 
 

 

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Bear, 2 cubs destroyed in Fredericton park after being deemed a public safety risk

Bears were in Odell Park for two days, and rangers couldn't get close enough to tranquilize them

 

Gail Harding· CBC News· Posted: Sep 18, 2020 1:28 PM AT

 


Department of Natural Resources and Energy staff euthanized a sow and two cubs in Fredericton's Odell Park on Sunday after they were deemed a risk to public safety. (CBC file photo)

Three bears — a sow and her two cubs — were destroyed Sunday night by forest rangers with the Department of Natural Resources after spending the weekend near houses in a Fredericton neighbourhood and then in a city park.

The bears were deemed a risk to public safety, Kristian Moore, the executive director of the department's natural resources division, said Friday. 

"It's regrettable that the bears had to be euthanized and that is always a last resort. You know, staff don't like having to euthanize an animal." 

Moore told CBC's Information Morning Fredericton the bears were first seen Saturday morning in a tree along Golf Club Road.

City police closed the road to traffic while Natural Resources staff monitored the situation.

And here’s Mama

https://twitter.com/i/status/1304805159248240640 


12:32 PM · Sep 12, 2020

He said the three bears couldn't be tranquilized that day because the bears were beyond the maximum 50 metres range of the equipment. Staff safety also had to be considered.

"We couldn't get close enough to use the tranquilizer dart."

On Sunday, forest rangers were called to Odell Park, and found the same bears about 30 metres up a tree. 

Moore said the rangers stayed on site and monitored the situation all day.

"Again, the consideration was to, if an opportunity provided itself, to use the tranquilizer dart."

But with the bears in the tree and the limits of the tranquilizer gun, a live trap was set up in the hopes the bears would enter it. But by dark they hadn't, and Moore said the decision was made to destroy the bears instead. 

"These bears are obviously acclimatized to public areas and, you know, they weren't looking to find their way to the woods, and most likely would travel to an adjacent home or owners' properties or further into the city the following day."

Moore said that although Odell Park is forested, it is frequented by joggers, hikers and cyclists, and overall is a busy place for recreational use.


Department of Natural Resources and Energy staff had set up a live trap but the bears did not go in it. ((CBC))

 

"Public safety is always paramount and in this case, as I said, there was a concern for public given the proximity of homes and businesses." 

While it depends on the circumstance, Moore said Natural Resources tries to relocate bears that get too close to homes and businesses after they've identified a food source. 

"If a food source is removed then then the bears move on."

"If that's not the case and we can get into a situation where we can tranquilize, in this case, a bear, we will do that. And then the last, obviously the last resort is to euthanize a bear." 

Moore said all actions taken by department staff are done against the backdrop of public safety, but he understands why the public gets upset when they hear rangers have had to put down animals.

"People have that feeling of wildlife and and that's understandable."

Moore said the province has a healthy population of bears estimated at 18,000 to 20,000. Because of the high yield for berries and nuts in 2019, bears were very healthy when they went into hibernation. 

"The result was this year, in 2020, we see a lot of female bears with two and a lot of cases, three cubs. So the bear population is doing very well in New Brunswick." 

About the Author

Gail Harding

Web Writer

Gail Harding began her career as a journalist in the newspaper industry before joining CBC as a web writer.

With files from Information Morning Fredericton

 

 

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Daniel Lyons 
Shame... no forests, no shelter, no food. Bears are amongst us because there are no forests to provide food and shelter and they know where there are people, there will also be food. These scenarios will be more and more common. 
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Daniel Lyons: This is NB not southern Ontario. We have vast undeveloped land. Unfortunate yes, but not a regular occurrence..
 
 
Daniel Lyons 
Reply to @Ray Oliver: So since it is "undeveloped land" then lets go cut it all down, leave a big mess that provides no benefit to any creature and everything will be fine? Is that land now developed? Typical NB thinking.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Daniel Lyons: They should've shot all 3 ASAP and not wasted 2 days hows that for NB thinking
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Daniel Lyons: if you think that our entire province is a barren clear cut wasteland then ive got a bridge to sell you
 
 
Daniel Lyons 
Reply to @Ray Oliver: It is becoming a vast clear cut. Even the hillbillies will have nowhere to hide. Hahaha
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Daniel Lyons: It's the citybillies we need to worry about.
 
 
Daniel Lyons
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Everything that walks on two legs upright and believes itself to be the end-all-be-all needs to be worried about. Ignorance and superstition are no longer excuses in the 21st century. 
 
 
 
 

Rangers kill bear near Fredericton walking trail

Large black bear reported in tree behind Devon Lumber

 
CBC News· Posted: Aug 24, 2020 6:06 PM AT
 
 

Forest rangers responded to a report of a large black bear in a tree on Fredericton's north side on Sunday morning. (Walther Bernal/CBC)
 

Forest rangers killed a large black bear near a busy walking trail on Fredericton's north side on Sunday afternoon.

Rangers responded around 5 a.m. to a report of the bear in a tree near the walking trail behind Devon Lumber, by the Nashwaak River, said Mélanie Sivret, a spokesperson for the Department of Natural Resources.

The bear stayed in place into the afternoon.

"As the trail was becoming quite busy in the afternoon, at around 2 p.m. a decision was made to immobilize the bear by using tranquilizer darts," Sivret wrote in an email.

Staff tranquilized the bear at about 2:30 p.m.

Sivret said the bear did not appear to be recovering after the tranquilizer wore off.

The bear was then killed. 

 

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Bill Vasseur 
Another trophy for Natural Resources Minister Mike Holland, he's probably very proud of his Rangers!!!  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Janice small
We invade their territory then we shoot them...
 
 
Randy McNally 
Reply to @Janice small: Invasion of their territory is secondary - First a certain company devastates their natural habitat with wood harvesting equipment, a forest which in lot of cases belongs to the crown/to the people. Then, that certain wood company sells it abroad for an enormous profit.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson
As if entitled hikers couldn't forgo their trail for a day or so till the bear vacated the premises. Could've hired a game warden to watch it till it did, instead of wasting them surveilling the provincial borders. Do you suppose it's death had anything to do with falling from a tree while unconscious?
 
 
Jeff LeBlanc
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: For someone who claims to love hunting so much you think you'd know that a Ranger is not going to sit and monitor a bear all day on the taxpayer dime.
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Yup , they'll just keep watching the NS/PEI/QUE border, instaed of doing their real job.PS. I don't hunt bears.
 
 
 
 
 
 
John Grail
Top notch team you have there. Torment the bear with drugs then kill it...Lovely.
 
 
Reply to @John Grail: The 25 or so foot fall probably didn't do any good either. In the U.S they set up a net first.
 
 
 
 
 
 

'Big moose' spotted in downtown Fredericton

Second moose on the loose in city since June

 
Jordan Gill· CBC News· Posted: Oct 19, 2019 4:59 PM AT 
 
 

A moose drew onlookers in downtown Fredericton on Saturday. (Submitted by Danny Carson)

A moose running around downtown Fredericton drew onlookers Saturday afternoon.

The moose was first seen around Liverpool Street, up the hill in Fredericton, but was later spotted walking down Smythe Street.

It was finally cornered in the parking lot of the NBCC corporate offices at the corner of Smythe and Saunders streets.

It wasn't something Danny Carson expected to see on his walk with his dog.

"[I] just kind of looked over and saw a big moose," he said.

A Fredericton police spokesperson said the department was aware of the issue but would not confirm if they were on scene. The spokesperson said it was a provincial matter.

CBC News has reached out to the province but has yet to receive a reply.


Carson said he couldn't be sure who was there, but there appeared to be people keeping the animal cornered. He said he didn't see anybody with a rifle.

"I'm not quite sure what they were doing, but they were making sure it didn't go back to the road," said Carson.

This isn't the first time a moose has been sighted in residential areas in Fredericton this year.

In June, a moose was spotted in Wilmot Park. It was tranquilized and moved to another area.

 

 
 
 
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Diana Austin 
"A Fredericton police spokesperson said the department was aware of the issue but would not confirm if they were on scene. The spokesperson said it was a provincial matter."
Am I the only one who finds this an extremely odd reaction by the Fredericton Police Department?
 
 
 
 
 
Omer Samson 
Higgs still complaining about Quebec's pipeline, while avoiding French and cheap Quebec Hydro like the plague. Moose looking for a job in the circus.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Anne Bérubé
Was Trudeau visiting?
 
 
Marguerite Deschamps 
Reply to @Anne Bérubé: He was heading for the Legislative building wanting to have a talk with th elusive Higgs Bozon about the CONservatives and his boss wrecking his habitat.
 
 
Troy Murray 
Reply to @Anne Bérubé: weasels don’t get that big
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Sad thing that at the end of tomorrow, 70% of Canadians ore not going to be happy, that is the best case scenario.
 
 
 

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I bet his buddy @ryanmeili Doctor, dad & notorious punster. Leader of the @Sask_NDP will remember this email and @PremierScottMoe Leader of the @SaskParty thanking me for it now EH???

  
 
 
 
 
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G2donSng8Q
 

 

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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 20:38:44 -0300
Subject: I bet his NDP buddy Ryan Meili will remember this email and
Premier Moe thanking me for it now EH???
To: Office of the Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>, ryan@saskndp.ca,
premier@gnb.ca, rob.moore@parl.gc.ca, Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca,
"Mark.Blakely"<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
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Email: ryan@saskndp.ca
Phone: (306) 244-1550
Address: 417 24 St E, Saskatoon, SK, S7K 2P3

My debate in 2015 while the potash mines were still open and I was
suing the Queen was viewed more times eh?

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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 19:47:02 -0300
Subject: YO Premier Moe do you and Ryan Meili remember thanking me this email???
To: Office of the Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>, ryan@saskndp.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, Nicole.Genier@tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca, "Katie.Telford"<Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, premier <premier@ontario.ca>, Jfraser.mpp.co@liberal.ola.org, lauralynnlive <lauralynnlive@gmail.com>, info@randyhillier.com, premier <premier@gov.bc.ca>, "david.eby.mla"<david.eby.mla@leg.bc.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, premier <premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>, premier <premier@gov.pe.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, Premier <PREMIER@novascotia.ca>, premier <premier@gov.nl.ca>, premier <premier@gov.nt.ca>, premier <premier@gov.yk.ca>, perry.brad@radioabl.ca, freedomreport.ca@gmail.com, themayor <themayor@calgary.ca>, bbachrach <bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net>, "robert.mckee"<robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "Ross.Wetmore"<Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, "rob.moore"<rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>, "Mark.Blakely"<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "martin.gaudet"<martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "Roger.Brown"<Roger.Brown@fredericton.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, "andrea.anderson-mason"<andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming"<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"<Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "Dorothy.Shephard"<Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca>, "John.Williamson"<John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"<Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>, lauralynn@chpbc.ca, ezra <ezra@rebelnews.com>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, "Nathalie.Drouin"<Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>, Nathalie Sturgeon <sturgeon.nathalie@brunswicknews.com>, news <news@dailygleaner.com>, editor <editor@canadalandshow.com>, "PETER.MACKAY"<PETER.MACKAY@bakermckenzie.com>, "erin.otoole"<erin.otoole@parl.gc.ca>, "jagmeet.singh"<jagmeet.singh@parl.gc.ca>, "Kevin.leahy"<Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Bill.Blair"<Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca>, "David.Lametti"<David.Lametti@parl.gc.ca>, "Ian.Shugart"<Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G2donSng8Q

Saskatchewan Leaders' Debate, Oct. 14, 2020
4,616 views
Oct 15, 2020

Saskatoon StarPhoenix
7.2K subscribers
Provincial NDP leader Ryan Meili and Saskatchewan Party leader Scott
Moe debate ahead of the Saskatchewan fall election in 2020.


Email: ryan@saskndp.ca
Phone: (306) 244-1550
Address: 417 24 St E, Saskatoon, SK, S7K 2P3

My debate in 2015 while the potash mines were still open and I was
suing the Queen was viewed more times eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
Campaign, Rogers TV
8,616 views
Oct 2, 2015
Rogers tv
40.6K subscribers
Federal debate in Fundy Royal, New Brunswick riding featuring
candidates Rob Moore, Stephanie Coburn, Alaina Lockhart, Jennifer
McKenzie and David Amos.

Rob Moore - Conservative
Stephanie Coburn - Green Party
Alaina Lockhart - Liberal
Jennifer McKenzie - New Democratic Party
David Amos - Independent

---------- Original message ----------
From: Office of the Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 23:15:41 +0000
Subject: FW: I just called the offices of Premier Moe and Ryan Meili
The attachment is suitable for framing
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

David Amos,

This is to acknowledge receipt of your email.  Thank you for copying
the Premier of Saskatchewan on your email.
Have a nice evening.

Bonnie

Bonnie Krajewski-Riel
Director
Premier's Correspondence Unit

NOTICE:  This e-mail was intended for a specific person.  If it has
reached you by mistake, please delete it and advise me by return
e-mail.  Any privilege associated with this information is not waived.
Thank you for your cooperation and assistance.

Avis: Ce message est confidentiel, peut être protégé par le secret
professionnel et est à l'usage exclusif de son destinataire. Il est
strictement interdit à toute autre personne de le diffuser, le
distribuer ou le reproduire. Si le destinataire ne peut être joint ou
vous est inconnu, veuillez informer l'expéditeur par courrier
électronique immédiatement et effacer ce message et en détruire toute
copie. Merci de votre cooperation.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 4:27 PM
To: Office of the Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>; Meili, Ryan MLA
<saskatoonmeewasin@ndpcaucus.sk.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Subject: I just called the offices of Premier Moe and Ryan Meili The
attachment is suitable for framing

Ryan Meili (NDP)Title MLA
Organization Saskatoon Meewasin
 Legislative Assembly
Phone (306) 244-2280
Fax (306) 244-2284
Email saskatoonmeewasin@ndpcaucus.sk.ca


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 12:24:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Attn Sergeant-at-Arms Gilles Cote (506) 453-2527 I just
called AGAIN
To: Gilles.Cote@gnb.ca, "dan. bussieres"<dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>,
"Michael.Duheme"<Michael.Duheme@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "brian.gallant"
<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon"<David.Coon@gnb.ca>,
"blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Armitage, Blair"
<blair.armitage@sen.parl.gc.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, premier
<premier@gov.pe.ca>, PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, premier
<premier@ontario.ca>, "premier.ministre"
<premier.ministre@cex.gouv.qc.ca>, premier <premier@gov.bc.ca>,
premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, premier <premier@gov.sk.ca>, premier
<premier@gov.nl.ca>, premier <premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
<Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
<martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "Jonathan.Vance"
<Jonathan.Vance@forces.gc.ca>, "Tim.RICHARDSON"
<Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca>, info <info@gg.ca>, "serge.rousselle"
<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "denis.landry2"<denis.landry2@gnb.ca>,
"Stephen.Horsman"<Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "jan.jensen"
<jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>, "Nathalie.Drouin"
<Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"<Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:05:07 +0000
Subject: RE: So what does Premier Gallant and Minister Doucet et al
think of my lawsuit? How about David Coon and his blogging buddy
Chucky joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.
Please be assured that your email has been received, will be reviewed,
and a response will be forthcoming.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to write.

Merci d'avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.
Soyez assuré que votre courriel a bien été reçu, qu'il sera examiné et
qu'une réponse vous sera acheminée.
Merci encore d'avoir pris de temps de nous écrire.

Sincerely, / Sincèrement,
Mallory Fowler
Correspondence Manager / Gestionnaire de la correspondance Office of
the Premier / Cabinet du premier ministre


On 1/19/18, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Good Day Sir
>>
>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>
>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>
>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>> suggested that you study closely.
>>
>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.ph
>> p?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>
>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>
>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>
>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>
>> April 3rd, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>
>>
>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.ph
>> p?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>
>>
>> The only hearing thus far
>>
>> May 24th, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>
>>
>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>
>> Date: 20151223
>>
>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>
>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>
>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>>
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>
>> Plaintiff
>>
>> and
>>
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>
>> Defendant
>>
>> ORDER
>>
>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>> December 14, 2015)
>>
>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>> in its entirety.
>>
>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the
>> Canadian Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch,
>> Kathleen Quigg, (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).
>> In that letter he stated:
>>
>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check
>> the work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>
>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number
>> of people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be
>> witnesses or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are
>> known to me personally, include, but are not limited to the former
>> Prime Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>> Police.
>>
>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et
>> al, [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>
>>
>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator
>> of the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.
>> There is no order as to costs.
>>
>> “B. Richard Bell”
>> Judge
>>
>>
>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>
>>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>
>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>> most
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>> dudes are way past too late
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre
>> à lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Merci ,
>>
>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo
>> .html
>>
>>
>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more
>> war in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation
>> to allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times
>> over five years after he began his bragging:
>>
>> January 13, 2015
>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>
>> December 8, 2014
>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>
>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>
>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>
>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary
>> to the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the
>> dearth of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>> campaign of 2006.
>>
>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>
>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and
>> babbling chattering classes are too addled to understand is the
>> deployment of less than 75 special operations troops, and what is
>> known by planners as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the
>> same as a deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>
>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>
>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and
>> control, and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the
>> world. The initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan
>> was vital and
>>
>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>
>> Subject:
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>
>> January 30, 2007
>>
>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>
>> Mr. David Amos
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>
>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December
>> 29,
>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>
>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner
>> Steve Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>> Minister of Health
>>
>> CM/cb
>>
>>
>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "Paul Dube"
>> PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>
>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>
>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our
>> position is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not
>> process testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred
>> to the Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide
>> these services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in
>> this instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>
>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment and
>> policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>
>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>
>>  Sincerely,
>>
>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>> Traffic Services NCO
>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>> fax: 506-444-5224
>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM
>> Subject: RE My complaint against the CROWN in Federal Court Attn
>> David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to submit a motion for
>> a publication ban on my complaint trust that you dudes are way past
>> too late
>> To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca
>> peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.com,
>> mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com,
>> david.akin@sunmedia.ca, robert.frater@justice.gc.ca,
>> paul.riley@ppsc-sppc.gc.ca, greg@gregdelbigio.com,
>> joyce.dewitt-vanoosten@gov.bc.ca, joan.barrett@ontario.ca,
>> jean-vincent.lacroix@gouv.qc.ca, peter.rogers@mcinnescooper.com,
>> mfeder@mccarthy.ca, mjamal@osler.com
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, gopublic@cbc.ca,
>> Whistleblower@ctv.ca
>>
>> https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/14439/index.do
>>
>> http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/WebDocuments-DocumentsWeb/35072/FM030_Respon
>> dent_Attorney-General-of-Canada-on-Behalf-of-the-United-States-of-Ame
>> rica.pdf
>>
>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-bra
>> zilian.html
>>
>> I repeat what the Hell do I do with the Yankee wiretapes taps sell
>> them on Ebay or listen to them and argue them with you dudes in
>> Feferal Court?
>>
>> Petey Baby loses all parliamentary privelges in less than a month but
>> he still supposed to be an ethical officer of the Court CORRECT?
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>> 902 800 0369
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400
>> Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in
>> the USDOJ for me will ya?
>> To: RBauer@perkinscoie.com, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
>> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith@svlaw.com, bginsberg@pattonboggs.com,
>> gregory.craig@skadden.com, pm@pm.gc.ca, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca,
>> leader@greenparty.ca
>> Cc: alevine@cooley.com, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
>> michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com
>>
>> QSLS Politics
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>>
>> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on
>> .html
>>
>>
>> Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its
>> because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it
>> yet
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:36:04 -0400
>> Subject: This is a brief as I can make my concerns Randy
>> To:  randyedmunds@gov.nl.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> In a nutshell my concerns about the actions of the Investment
>> Industry affect the interests of every person in every district of
>> every country not just the USA and Canada. I was offering to help you
>> with Emera because my work with them and Danny Williams is well known
>> and some of it is over eight years old and in the PUBLIC Record.
>>
>> All you have to do is stand in the Legislature and ask the MInister
>> of Justice why I have been invited to sue Newfoundland by the
>> Conservatives
>>
>>
>> Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is
>> the link to Madoff and Putnam Investments
>>
>> Here is why
>>
>> http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearin
>> g&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
>>
>> Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate
>> Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice
>> Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the
>> following file
>>
>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.
>> -txt.pdf
>>
>> http://occupywallst.org/users/DavidRaymondAmos/
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Hansen, David" David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca
>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:28:44 +0000
>> Subject: RE: I just called again Mr Hansen
>> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>> Hello Mr. Amos,
>>
>> I manage the Justice Canada civil litigation section in the Atlantic
>> region.  We are only responsible for litigating existing civil
>> litigation files in which the Attorney General of Canada is a named
>> defendant or plaintiff.  If you are a plaintiff or defendant in an
>> existing civil litigation matter in the Atlantic region in which
>> Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant or plaintiff please
>> provide the court file number, the names of the parties in the action
>> and your question.  I am not the appropriate contact for other
>> matters.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> David A. Hansen
>> Regional Director | Directeur régional General Counsel |Avocat
>> général Civil Litigation and Advisory | Contentieux des affaires
>> civiles et services de consultation Department of Justice | Ministère
>> de la Justice Suite 1400 – Duke Tower | Pièce 1400 – Tour Duke
>> 5251 Duke Street | 5251 rue Duke
>> Halifax, Nova Scotia | Halifax, Nouvelle- Écosse B3J 1P3
>> david.hansen@justice.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone (902) 426-3261 /
>> Facsimile | Télécopieur (902)
>> 426-2329
>> This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by solicitor-client
>> privilege. Unauthorized distribution or disclosure is prohibited. If
>> you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us and delete
>> this entire e-mail.
>> Before printing think about the Environment Thinking Green, please
>> do not print this e-mail unless necessary.
>> Pensez vert, svp imprimez que si nécessaire.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:23:24 -0300
>>> Subject: ATTN FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers Have you talked
>>> to your buddies Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly about the wiretap tapes YET?
>>> To: boston@ic.fbi.gov, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
>>> bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov,
>>> jcarney@carneybassil.com, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, birgittaj@althingi.is,
>>> shmurphy@globe.com, redicecreations@gmail.com
>>>
>>> FBI Boston
>>> One Center Plaza
>>> Suite 600
>>> Boston, MA 02108
>>> Phone: (617) 742-5533
>>> Fax: (617) 223-6327
>>> E-mail: Boston@ic.fbi.gov
>>>
>>> Hours
>>> Although we operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, our normal
>>> "walk-in" business hours are from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday
>>> through Friday. If you need to speak with a FBI representative at
>>> any time other than during normal business hours, please telephone
>>> our office at (617) 742-5533.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300
>>> Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is
>>> finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap
>>> tapes Sell them on Ebay?
>>> To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov,
>>> Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney@carneybassil.com,
>>> bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, wolfheartlodge@live.com,
>>> shmurphy@globe.com,
>>> >> jonathan.albano@bingham.com,  mvalencia@globe.com
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>>> PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com
>>>
>>> http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/05/james-whitey-bulger-jury
>>> -selection-process-enters-second-day/KjS80ofyMMM5IkByK74bkK/story.ht
>>> ml
>>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>>
>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>>
>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>> cards?
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>>>
>>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly20
>>> 06
>>>
>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>>
>>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>>
>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>> United States Senate
>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>
>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the
>>> matters raised in the attached letter.
>>>
>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>> tapes.
>>>
>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>
>>> Very truly yours,
>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Amos" david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>> To: "Rob Talach" rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my
>>> suing the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
>>>
>>> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should
>>> mean a lot to you
>>>
>>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400
>>> Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau What say you NOW
>>> Bernadine Chapman??
>>> To: Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, phil.giles@statcan.ca,
>>> maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca,
>>> bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca,
>>> denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca,
>>> webo@xplornet.com, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
>>> rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca,
>>> toewsv1@parl.gc.ca, Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca,Clemet1@parl.gc.ca,
>>> maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca,
>>> >> oig@sec.gov, whistleblower@finra.org, whistle@fsa.gov.uk,
>>> david@fairwhistleblower.ca
>>> Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
>>> bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,  justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca,
>>> Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>>> Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca,
>>> ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>>
>>> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm
>>>
>>> http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf
>>>
>>> From: Gilles Moreau Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy
>>> Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH
>>> Constable Peddle???
>>> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails.
>>>
>>> Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC Director General
>>> HR Transformation
>>> 73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502
>>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2
>>>
>>> Tel 613-843-6039
>>> Cel 613-818-6947
>>>
>>> Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC Directeur général
>>> de la Transformation des ressources humaines
>>> 73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502
>>> Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2
>>>
>>> tél 613-843-6039
>>> cel 613-818-6947
>>> gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>
>



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 18:27:10 -0400
Subject: I just called the offices of Premier Moe and Ryan Meili The
attachment is suitable for framing
To: premier@gov.sk.ca, saskatoonmeewasin@ndpcaucus.sk.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

Ryan Meili (NDP)Title MLA
Organization Saskatoon Meewasin
 Legislative Assembly
Phone (306) 244-2280
Fax (306) 244-2284
Email saskatoonmeewasin@ndpcaucus.sk.ca


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 12:24:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Attn Sergeant-at-Arms Gilles Cote (506) 453-2527 I just
called AGAIN
To: Gilles.Cote@gnb.ca, "dan. bussieres"<dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>,
"Michael.Duheme"<Michael.Duheme@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "brian.gallant"
<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon"<David.Coon@gnb.ca>,
"blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Armitage, Blair"
<blair.armitage@sen.parl.gc.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, premier
<premier@gov.pe.ca>, PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, premier
<premier@ontario.ca>, "premier.ministre"
<premier.ministre@cex.gouv.qc.ca>, premier <premier@gov.bc.ca>,
premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, premier <premier@gov.sk.ca>, premier
<premier@gov.nl.ca>, premier <premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
<Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
<martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "Jonathan.Vance"
<Jonathan.Vance@forces.gc.ca>, "Tim.RICHARDSON"
<Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca>, info <info@gg.ca>, "serge.rousselle"
<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "denis.landry2"<denis.landry2@gnb.ca>,
"Stephen.Horsman"<Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "jan.jensen"
<jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>, "Nathalie.Drouin"
<Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"<Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:05:07 +0000
Subject: RE: So what does Premier Gallant and Minister Doucet et al
think of my lawsuit? How about David Coon and his blogging buddy
Chucky joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.
Please be assured that your email has been received, will be reviewed,
and a response will be forthcoming.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to write.

Merci d'avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.
Soyez assuré que votre courriel a bien été reçu, qu'il sera examiné
et qu'une réponse vous sera acheminée.
Merci encore d'avoir pris de temps de nous écrire.

Sincerely, / Sincèrement,
Mallory Fowler
Correspondence Manager / Gestionnaire de la correspondance
Office of the Premier / Cabinet du premier ministre


On 1/19/18, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Good Day Sir
>>
>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>
>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>
>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>> suggested that you study closely.
>>
>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>
>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>
>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>
>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>
>> April 3rd, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>
>>
>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>
>>
>> The only hearing thus far
>>
>> May 24th, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>
>>
>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>
>> Date: 20151223
>>
>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>
>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>
>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>>
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>
>> Plaintiff
>>
>> and
>>
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>
>> Defendant
>>
>> ORDER
>>
>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>> December 14, 2015)
>>
>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>> in its entirety.
>>
>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
>> he stated:
>>
>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>
>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>> Police.
>>
>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>
>>
>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
>> is no order as to costs.
>>
>> “B. Richard Bell”
>> Judge
>>
>>
>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>
>>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>
>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>> most
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>> dudes are way past too late
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Merci ,
>>
>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>>
>>
>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>
>> January 13, 2015
>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>
>> December 8, 2014
>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>
>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>
>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>
>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>> campaign of 2006.
>>
>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>
>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>
>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>
>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>
>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>
>> Subject:
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>
>> January 30, 2007
>>
>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>
>> Mr. David Amos
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>
>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>
>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>> Minister of Health
>>
>> CM/cb
>>
>>
>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>
>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>
>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>
>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>
>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>
>>  Sincerely,
>>
>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>> Traffic Services NCO
>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>> fax: 506-444-5224
>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM
>> Subject: RE My complaint against the CROWN in Federal Court Attn David
>> Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to submit a motion for a
>> publication ban on my complaint trust that you dudes are way past too
>> late
>> To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca
>> peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.com, mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com,
>> david.akin@sunmedia.ca, robert.frater@justice.gc.ca,
>> paul.riley@ppsc-sppc.gc.ca,
>> greg@gregdelbigio.com, joyce.dewitt-vanoosten@gov.bc.ca,
>> joan.barrett@ontario.ca, jean-vincent.lacroix@gouv.qc.ca,
>> peter.rogers@mcinnescooper.com, mfeder@mccarthy.ca, mjamal@osler.com
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, gopublic@cbc.ca,
>> Whistleblower@ctv.ca
>>
>> https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/14439/index.do
>>
>> http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/WebDocuments-DocumentsWeb/35072/FM030_Respondent_Attorney-General-of-Canada-on-Behalf-of-the-United-States-of-America.pdf
>>
>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html
>>
>> I repeat what the Hell do I do with the Yankee wiretapes taps sell
>> them on Ebay or listen to them and argue them with you dudes in
>> Feferal Court?
>>
>> Petey Baby loses all parliamentary privelges in less than a month but
>> he still supposed to be an ethical officer of the Court CORRECT?
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> David Raymond Amos
>> 902 800 0369
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400
>> Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in
>> the USDOJ for me will ya?
>> To: RBauer@perkinscoie.com, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
>> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith@svlaw.com, bginsberg@pattonboggs.com,
>> gregory.craig@skadden.com, pm@pm.gc.ca, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca,  leader@greenparty.ca
>> Cc: alevine@cooley.com, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
>> michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com
>>
>> QSLS Politics
>> By Location Visit Detail
>> Visit 29,419
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>> IP Address 149.101.1.# (US Dept of Justice)
>> ISP US Dept of Justice
>> Location Continent : North America
>> Country : United States (Facts)
>> State : District of Columbia
>> City : Washington
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>> Visit Number 29,419
>>
>> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html
>>
>>
>> Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its
>> because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it yet
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:36:04 -0400
>> Subject: This is a brief as I can make my concerns Randy
>> To:  randyedmunds@gov.nl.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> In a nutshell my concerns about the actions of the Investment Industry
>> affect the interests of every person in every district of every
>> country not just the USA and Canada. I was offering to help you with
>> Emera because my work with them and Danny Williams is well known and
>> some of it is over eight years old and in the PUBLIC Record.
>>
>> All you have to do is stand in the Legislature and ask the MInister of
>> Justice why I have been invited to sue Newfoundland by the
>> Conservatives
>>
>>
>> Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is the
>> link to Madoff and Putnam Investments
>>
>> Here is why
>>
>> http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
>>
>> Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate
>> Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice
>> Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the
>> following file
>>
>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf
>>
>> http://occupywallst.org/users/DavidRaymondAmos/
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Hansen, David" David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca
>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:28:44 +0000
>> Subject: RE: I just called again Mr Hansen
>> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>> Hello Mr. Amos,
>>
>> I manage the Justice Canada civil litigation section in the Atlantic
>> region.  We are only responsible for litigating existing civil
>> litigation files in which the Attorney General of Canada is a named
>> defendant or plaintiff.  If you are a plaintiff or defendant in an
>> existing civil litigation matter in the Atlantic region in which
>> Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant or plaintiff please
>> provide the court file number, the names of the parties in the action
>> and your question.  I am not the appropriate contact for other
>> matters.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> David A. Hansen
>> Regional Director | Directeur régional
>> General Counsel |Avocat général
>> Civil Litigation and Advisory | Contentieux des affaires civiles et
>> services de consultation
>> Department of Justice | Ministère de la Justice
>> Suite 1400 – Duke Tower | Pièce 1400 – Tour Duke
>> 5251 Duke Street | 5251 rue Duke
>> Halifax, Nova Scotia | Halifax, Nouvelle- Écosse
>> B3J 1P3
>> david.hansen@justice.gc.ca
>> Telephone | Téléphone (902) 426-3261 / Facsimile | Télécopieur (902)
>> 426-2329
>> This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by solicitor-client
>> privilege. Unauthorized distribution or disclosure is prohibited. If
>> you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us and delete
>> this entire e-mail.
>> Before printing think about the Environment
>> Thinking Green, please do not print this e-mail unless necessary.
>> Pensez vert, svp imprimez que si nécessaire.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:23:24 -0300
>>> Subject: ATTN FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers Have you talked to
>>> your buddies Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly about the wiretap tapes YET?
>>> To: boston@ic.fbi.gov, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
>>> bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov,
>>> jcarney@carneybassil.com, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, birgittaj@althingi.is,
>>> shmurphy@globe.com, redicecreations@gmail.com
>>>
>>> FBI Boston
>>> One Center Plaza
>>> Suite 600
>>> Boston, MA 02108
>>> Phone: (617) 742-5533
>>> Fax: (617) 223-6327
>>> E-mail: Boston@ic.fbi.gov
>>>
>>> Hours
>>> Although we operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, our normal
>>> "walk-in" business hours are from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday
>>> through Friday. If you need to speak with a FBI representative at any
>>> time other than during normal business hours, please telephone our
>>> office at (617) 742-5533.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300
>>> Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is
>>> finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap
>>> tapes Sell them on Ebay?
>>> To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov,
>>> Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney@carneybassil.com,
>>> bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, wolfheartlodge@live.com, shmurphy@globe.com,
>>> >> jonathan.albano@bingham.com,  mvalencia@globe.com
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>>> PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com
>>>
>>> http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/05/james-whitey-bulger-jury-selection-process-enters-second-day/KjS80ofyMMM5IkByK74bkK/story.html
>>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>>
>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask
>>> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>>
>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>> cards?
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>>>
>>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006
>>>
>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>>
>>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>>
>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>> United States Senate
>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>
>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>> raised in the attached letter.
>>>
>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>> tapes.
>>>
>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>
>>> Very truly yours,
>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Amos" david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>> To: "Rob Talach" rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
>>> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
>>>
>>> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
>>> a lot to you
>>>
>>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400
>>> Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau What say you NOW
>>> Bernadine Chapman??
>>> To: Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, phil.giles@statcan.ca,
>>> maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca,
>>> bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca,
>>> denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca,
>>> webo@xplornet.com, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
>>> rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1@parl.gc.ca,
>>> Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca,Clemet1@parl.gc.ca, maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca,
>>> >> oig@sec.gov, whistleblower@finra.org, whistle@fsa.gov.uk,
>>> david@fairwhistleblower.ca
>>> Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
>>> bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,  justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca,
>>> Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>>> Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca,
>>> ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>>
>>> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm
>>>
>>> http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf
>>>
>>> From: Gilles Moreau Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy
>>> Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH
>>> Constable Peddle???
>>> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails.
>>>
>>> Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC
>>> Director General
>>> HR Transformation
>>> 73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502
>>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2
>>>
>>> Tel 613-843-6039
>>> Cel 613-818-6947
>>>
>>> Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC
>>> Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines
>>> 73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502
>>> Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2
>>>
>>> tél 613-843-6039
>>> cel 613-818-6947
>>> gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>
>

 

What's next for Fredericton's Lemont House? Heritage advocates want to know

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Methinks John Cushnie should give up trying to reason with the mindless Mayor of Stinktown and checkout an interesting property in Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

What's next for Fredericton's Lemont House? Heritage advocates want to know

The historically significant house has been boarded up for months

Lemont House, built in the 1880s, has been boarded up for months. Signs of decline have started to show -- a hole in the roof, a few in the eaves, one is a home to pigeons. 

"If you look at it from the outside, you can see that it's starting to be badly in need of repair," said Richard Bird, president of the Fredericton Heritage Trust. 


Lemont House in 1905. (NB Provincial Archives P210-724)

Of course the building wasn't always in such a state. 

"It's certainly up there with the buildings that helped define what Fredericton was," said Bird.

It sits across from Officers' Square, adjacent to the Lighthouse. 

Local architectural historian John Leroux points to a time when the riverfront was a hub, when, instead of a highway, a residential street ran between Officer's Square and the river.

"There were wharves and there was all kind of activity here with the riverboats and unloading of goods, manufacturing and so on."


Architectural historian John Leroux says Lemont House is one of the most historically important buildings in the city. (Joe McDonald)

Lemont House was lived in by the Lemont family, who were furniture dealers and owned a store on Queen Street. 

Leroux called it one of the most historically important buildings in the city.

"In a social and urban aspect, it's really significant. It's the last remnants of what was here."

The building is owned by Aquilini Properties, which also owns the Crowne Plaza. For many years the hotel used the building for longer term residences.


Lemont House is "badly in need of repair," said Richard Bird, president of Fredericton Heritage Trust. (Joe McDonald)

Bird said the Heritage Trust has made several attempts to contact the owner over the past months to find out what it plans to do with the building. 

But Bird said, there has never been a reply.

"No communication at all." 

The City of Fredericton said it has not received any permit requests regarding the building in the past year. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Last-ditch pitch may not save century-old former factory in Saint John

John Cushnie hopes to buy time to build case for restoration

Where passing motorists on City Road see ugly, pale blue, wood siding, Cushnie sees the 100-year-old red-brick factory that was hidden behind that siding decades ago.

Earlier owners covered over many of the windows entirely, perhaps as a way to contain the loss of heat.

"It's deceptive because of the siding on the outside, but on the inside we're looking at the brickwork and everything," said Cushnie. 

His dream is to remove the siding entirely, expose the windows and return the building to its original factory look, with the glass clerestory on the roof restored to let in even more light.


The condemned building's red brick facade and most of its windows were covered over with siding decades ago. (Connell Smith, CBC)

Cushnie has access to the necessary money, $80,000 to $150,000, to remove the siding, fix roof leaks and make it suitable for use as a workshop.

But he's in a race against time. The building could be demolished within weeks. To save it, he'll need to reverse a unanimous vote of city council ordering its removal.
  
"The councillors that I have spoken to have been relatively enthusiastic about the project," said Cushnie, who lives in Saint John and has renovated apartment houses, which he rents out.

"I think the mayor had some sort of reservations and suggested some criteria he'd like to see before moving forward. We've met that criteria." 

The City Road building has been declared dangerous and dilapidated, and several councillors surveyed by CBC News had no interest in stopping the planned demolition.

"There should be no more delays ... I voted to tear it down ASAP," said Blake Armstrong.

"This situation has happened several times in the past when someone makes a last-minute decision, and when they find out how much money it will cost to renovate the property they back out," said Deputy Mayor Shirley McAlary.

I am not in favour of a deferral of the demolition, without a solid plan from someone with experience, an immediate start date for redevelopment and proof of bank financing
- Don Darling, Saint John mayor

Cushnie would also have to gain ownership of the property, which has $65,000 in unpaid property taxes, something that puts it on course to be seized by the provincial government, which would then put it up for sale by auction.

Coun. Donna Reardon estimated that process would not be completed until April 2022, a period of time she's not willing to wait.

Coun. David Hickey said Cushnie should be given a chance if he and city enforcement staff can come up with a "clear, measured plan on this property." 

He noted, however, that on several occasions in the past, such extensions have not worked out, costing the city even more money in the end.

Mayor Don Darling tweeted a response Aug. 14  to Cushnie's original pitch for the property.

"I am not in favour of a deferral of the demolition, without a solid plan from someone with experience, an immediate start date for redevelopment and proof of bank financing," said Darling.

About the Author

Connell Smith is a reporter with CBC in Saint John. He can be reached at 632-7726 Connell.smith@cbc.ca

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Alberta MLA lends credence to COVID-19 'concentration camps' misinformation

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From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)"<Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 21:35:52 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Timothy Caulfield RE ARequest for
Information regarding Service Provider(s) for Federal Quarantine /
Isolation sites for The Government of Canada
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for taking the time to write to us.

Due to the high volume of emails that we receive daily, please note
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Cabinet du premier ministre au 506-453-2144.

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:35:53 -0700
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To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com

Thank you for your message.

I am currently out of the office and not responding to emails at this time.

All the best,
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 18:35:49 -0300
Subject: YO Timothy Caulfield RE ARequest for Information regarding
Service Provider(s) for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites for The
Government of Canada
To: caulfield@ualberta.ca, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, premier
<premier@gnb.ca>, "premier.ministre"<premier.ministre@gnb.ca>, Office
of the Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>, premier <premier@gov.bc.ca>,
premier <premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>, "Mark.Blakely"
<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Mike.Comeau"<Mike.Comeau@gnb.ca>,
"kris.austin"<kris.austin@gnb.ca>
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Would you dare to call me a liar???

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Timothy Caulfield,
Canada Research Chair in Health Law and Policy, Professor & Research
Director, Faculty of Law - Health Law Institute
461 Law Centre
8820 - 111 St NW
Edmonton AB T6G 2H5
Email
    caulfield@ualberta.ca
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    (780) 492-8358


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/alberta-mla-lends-credence-to-covid-19.html

 

 

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Folks need to Go Figure who is liar and who is not

This is a Federal Government website

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ucp-mla-covid-concentration-camps-disinformation-1.5773291

 

Alberta MLA lends credence to COVID-19 'concentration camps' misinformation

Health expert says those with high profiles can rapidly escalate spread of conspiracy theories

 

Joel Dryden· CBC News· Posted: Oct 22, 2020 6:27 PM MT 

 


Miranda Rosin, the MLA for Banff-Kananaskis, appeared to lend credence to a disinformation campaign circulating on social media in recent weeks. The UCP member wrote on Facebook that the provincial government would never create COVID-19 'concentration camps.' (Legislative Assembly of Alberta)

Banff-Kananaskis MLA Miranda Rosin on Tuesday reassured a constituent that the provincial government would never create COVID-19 "concentration camps"— but added that if the "rumours" were true, it would involve the federal government.

In doing so, Rosin helped to spread a misinformation campaign that has been been circulating on social media for weeks, says a health policy expert.

"It's a pretty hardcore conspiracy theory," said Timothy Caulfield, a Canada Research Chair in health law and policy at the University of Alberta. "It's extremely disappointing to have government officials, elected officials, helping spread this disinformation."

In a comment posted to Rosin's Facebook page, a constituent requested that government "STOP the COVID concentration camps."

In response, Rosin commented that, "If the rumours are true, those are being set up by the federal government, not us."

"Rest assured we would never create such a thing," she wrote.

While responding to a constituent on Tuesday, MLA Miranda Rosin said the provincial government would never create so-called COVID-19 concentration camps, referring to a disinformation campaign circulating on social media. (Facebook)

Earlier this week, health officials pushed back against the spread of the misinformation, the crux of which claims that the federal government is preparing to forcibly send Canadians to quarantine sites.

Funding has been announced for voluntary quarantine sites for homeless Canadians, and the federal government has plans to expand the number of sites available for international travellers who need to self-isolate but do not have space to do so. 

But a spokesperson for Health Minister Patty Hajdu told CBC News earlier this week that no one will be forced to leave their homes to go into a "COVID camp."

Speaking Tuesday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he had to tell a young woman that the government would not remove Canadians from their homes to put them in facilities.

"There is a tremendous amount of noise and harmful misinformation about [the pandemic] on the internet.…  We need to hold together and resist people who would sow chaos within our communities and our democracy," he said.

MLA says she received hateful correspondence

In an update posted on Facebook , Rosin said Thursday that she should have denounced the constituent's use of the term "concentration camp."

"Yet in the moment, I quickly responded to him that the leak was but a rumour at this point, and that if such facilities were being set up, they were not being done so by our provincial government," Rosin wrote.

"We have worked hard to reopen Alberta's economy, and we aren't moving backwards."

Sharing an email purportedly received after the post, Rosin wrote that she had been insulted and called names typically used to denigrate women.

"As a society, we can and we should behave better. I believe in a world where we can all treat each other humanely no matter how much we may disagree on things. Politics don't need to divide us like this," she wrote.

Rosin was not immediately available to provide additional comment on Thursday.

 

Speaking to Alberta talk radio host Danielle Smith on Monday, Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said no government was engaging in the mandatory quarantine of Canadians, as purported by a recent disinformation campaign. (The Canadian Press)

In response to a request for comment, a spokesperson for Premier Jason Kenney's office referred CBC News to a recent interview with the premier by Alberta talk radio host Danielle Smith.

"I think a certain conspiracy theory has developed around this," Kenney said on the radio show. "My understanding was that it was basically for hotel rooms for arriving international travellers."

Kenney said Alberta has taken similar steps, such as when the province saw large outbreaks in meat-packing plants earlier this year.

"We offered to put a number of those people up in hotels during the quarantine period," Kenney said. "I think that some of this is turning into, unfortunately, a conspiracy theory. No government is going to engage in mandatory quarantine of people."

Expert says misinformation can erode trust in health policy

Caulfield said that when high-profile individuals in society like politicians, sports stars or celebrities spread misinformation, it can help conspiracy theories take flight.

"There's a good body of research emerging on exactly that," he said. "Even if you don't necessarily align yourself with that individual, just their ability to get that misinformation out there causes it to spread. There's been research that has backed up exactly that."

University of Alberta professor Timothy Caulfield says misinformation in a public health crisis can lead to hospitalization, financial loss and adverse impacts on health and science policy. (Sam Martin/CBC)

Caulfield said that those who align themselves with misinformation and conspiracy theories are less likely to adopt appropriate precautions, such as wearing masks or following physical distancing rules.

"So when we have politicians making irresponsible statements, you're really contributing to a public health crisis," he said. "The other thing that is fascinating about this story, is this is a pretty hardcore conspiracy theory. This is not something that is even rational.

"It demonstrates the incredible traction that misinformation can have."

Speaking Tuesday, Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada's chief public health officer, said it was up to every Canadian to fight the spread of fake news and fight back against false information.

"That is a dual challenge, for sure. Misinformation, disinformation, does not help public health officials," she said.

WATCH: Dr. Theresa Tam is asked about bogus COVID-19 claims:


Dr. Theresa Tam answered questions today about the rise of fake news online during the pandemic. 3:12

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David Amos  
Methinks you did not read this in the news yet the opposition won't mention what is published on the government's website N'esy Pas?  

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Reply to @David Amos: Each Province and Territory has established isolation centres, usually hotels. The federal government is doing the same thing to assist the Province and Territories for people requiring isolation. Covid 19 is going to get worse and in order to assist us and those who have to self isolate outside of our normal home environment we as Canadians will have in place contracts with hotels to assist those people, those in remote/rural areas and the homeless. Full stop...

 
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The claim that the federal government is preparing to forcibly intern Canadians is patently false, said a spokesperson for Health Minister Patty Hajdu. A disinformation campaign claiming such has been circulating on social media for weeks.
Richard Marr
CBC couldn't tell the truth if they tried. This whole video is false. He says no one's going to break into your house and make you take a mumps vaccination. We're not talking about mumps.
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Giselia Pereira
CBC instead of reporting on the rumours that are flying around on the internet, why don’t you do some investigative reporting and prove there are no isolation facilities being built.
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Joe Madden
You mean "actual' reporting?😎
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SN011GlobeTrot
Lol they can't, because it wouldn't be true.
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Wood Duck
I can prove it. What type of proof are you looking for? Do you trust Municipal Surveying? How about Google Maps? How about Waze Maps? How about an FOI (freedom of information) how about other news sources?Also, I'm curious about your proof than these facilities are being built? I would love to see the plans, the payments to companies, or to even know which companies are involved. Pictures would be great, or anything really. If you aren't just trolling, I'm honestly curious...
Jaco Bytes
@Wood Duck I don't think you're sitting on the fence on this anymore..I think you're trolling us...if you know how to use the methods you suggest to find proof of anything why don't you use them, I think your methods are highly unrealistic, FOIA takes forever and is a hassle to jump through all the loops and then just to get a refusal with some boondoggle reason given and then which municipalities would you begin with regarding surveying, another endless process, google map only covers established areas i.e. I can find my house and the neighbors houses on a country road, but beyond that there are lakes in the wilderness that don't show up, and I can't scrutinize the mountains out back to see if there are any deer on that particular day, in fact the G. Map of my house still shows my old Pontiac Parisenne parked in the driveway, I've had four different cars since then. So I think you just make this B.s*it up to baffle brains. So, if you think those are plausible methods, then why don't you give us the proof, since Trou d'eau will not, eh?Besides @Geselia Pereira is not saying they exist, but is asking why Hillier's mike was cut off when asking the question in session? He had a government document in his hand saying they do exist along with vague reasons for their existence. That's all we have at the moment along with crickets sound bytes from the powers that bee on the subject. It would appear that this is classified info, and is the opposite of the transparency Trou d'eau campaigned on. His transparency is the same as Harper's...opaque.

 

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Miranda Rosin is the MLA for Banff-Kananaskis. She sits on the standing committees of Public Accounts and Alberta's Economic Future. She was a former member of Alberta's Fair Deal Panel and the Deputy Chair of the Public Health Act Review Committee.
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  • This is the absolute epitome of pathetic journalism.
    I made a heartfelt post about cyber bullying and the level of discourse in our society, with honest intentions of encouraging society to behave better.
    CBC chose to report that the email I shared was only purported, as if it may have somehow been fabricated, and as if politicians seemingly deserve to be denigated and sworn at. That right there justifies the post that I made.
    Let me be clear: The Federal Government is not creating literal concentration camps. I come from Jewish lineage. I had family members who spent time at the Kananaskis PoW camp. I would never make a mockery of concentration camps, and my comment reaffirming that our Provincial government was not establishing quarantine facilities was not intended to peddle conspiracy theories about legitimate concentration camps. It was meant to clear the air with a concerned constituent.
    I did not once even say the words "concentration camp".
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  • CBC is trash propaganda. Keep your head up. As one of your constituents I think you’re doing a great job. You don’t deserve any of this. 🖤
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    Are you (still) suggesting that concentration camps might be set up by the Trudeau government? Because that's the issue to me.
    Denigration, threats, swears have no place in politics - truly despicable.
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  • It’s funny when “concentration camps” is a major disinformation issue for many. But a Prime Minister that violates ethics with the self entitled approach of “going to get ice cream” multiple times over. A Prime Minster that broke the law attempting to override the rule of law. A Prime Minster that wore blackface like a baseball cap. A PM the groped a woman and blamed her for “experiencing it differently. A leader who has time and again purposely obfuscated and blocked access to information for his WE scandal among other multiple investigations seems rather trite in comparison.
    But this is 2020....
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  • Tony Clark
    there's things going around about the federal government setting up "isolation facilities". I believe her comments were along the lines of if it's true it's the federal government. Well it is true, but it's not "concentration camps" but facilities for people who can't self isolate like homeless or people in large families etc
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    correct. I did not denounce the use of the term "concentration camp" in the individual's original comment on my previous post, which I suppose I should have.
    But I never once gave credence to such a thing. I merely acknowledged it was but a rumor, and that our Provincial government had nothing to do with it.
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  • Thanks for the response, MLA Rosin.
    You can help to dispel this by saying (or posting) unequivocally that the 'concentration camp' notion is disinformation.
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    you “suppose” you should have ? Seriously? You do not deserve any hate mail ever but as a public figure, you should definitely consider your words and what impact they may have - on those who support the UCP and those who do not. Bashing the CBC for reporting your words is a red herring.
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  • It’s funny how you Trudeau cucks come to a Conservative page to try and spread your religion. Nice try is right.
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  • Willis Geczi Nice try but mostly bullshit.
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  • Tony Clark
    denigration, threats, swears are, sadly, today’s politics.

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  • Willis Geczi
    there are no concentration camps in Canada. Can admin pls follow this?
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  • Lin Heidt
    no. But there are an abundance of Liberal politicians on the federal level that are not being held to account over far more serious allegations than a third party mention of the words concentration camps. Seems “ethics” is a thing of the past like common sense.
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  • Miranda Rosin Own up and quit trying to worm your way out of what you said.

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  • Willis Geczi
    As an MLA, you're suppose to represent ALL the people in the constituency and not just the conservatives...
    ** Warning: graphic language below, although I have blacked it out for you.
    I share this post not to whine, nor receive pity, nor sympathetic flattery. I don't need any of that. I chose to run for politics, and I knew what I was signing up for. I share this post because it's time a larger societal conversation was had around the state of our civil discourse.
    Partisan politics have divided us, and society has become toxic. People have entirely normalized the bullying, harassment, and intimidation of their elected officials, justifying their actions by pretending it is part of their civic duty as a participating member in democracy. Trash like this is posted by individuals across the entire span of the political spectrum. It is not a left vs. right nor a male vs. female issue.
    I wish I could say that emails such as these were an anomaly, but unfortunately they've become the norm. Us politicians get literally tens to hundreds of these emails every day. In this particular instance, there are even individuals who went so far as to say publicly that I "deserve every bit" of this.
    Behavior like this is unacceptable, unbecoming of adults, and it is entirely degrading our democracy, not enhancing it.
    - - -
    Yesterday an individual commented on a post of mine saying "stop the covid concentration camps". I knew instantly what he was referencing: the proposed quarantine facilities supposedly leaked by a Liberal committee member. The individual who commented was one of many constituents who have reached out to me about this potential leak, sharing concerns about the diminishment of our civil libraries in Canada.
    Perhaps I should have responded to him denouncing his use of the term "concentration camp" and clarifying the facilities he was referring to. Yes, I absolutely should have done that. Yet in the moment I quickly responded to him that the leak was but a rumor at this point, and that if such facilities were being set up they were not being done so by our provincial Government. We have worked hard to reopen Alberta's economy, and we aren't moving backwards.
    Then came the wrath of social media, and the rest was history.
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    Look, civil discourse is important. What makes democracy strong is the ability for citizens to use their voices to enact change. I love when constituents reach out to me or my office to talk policy. Unfortunately, behavior such as this, which has become so commonplace in our world, is not having that intended effect. Behaviour like this is, by no means, productive whatsoever.
    Society demands the highest level of respect, integrity, and conduct from their elected officials - as they should. Yet we cannot expect to attract high caliber candidates for office while we simultaneously bully, harass, and threaten them and their families on a daily basis.
    If we want to encourage our upcoming generations to step into the public arena and serve the people, we need to be role models for them. Most parents wouldn't let their children speak to other kids on the playground this way, and the same expectation should be extended to adults. We haven't strived so hard as a society to end bullying, just for it to be considered "ok" once people turn 18 and leave school and sit down at their computers.
    As a society we can, and we should behave better. I believe in a world where we can all treat each other humanely no matter how much we may disagree on things. Politics don't need to divide us like this.
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    I don't care which party or side people represent, the way people are talking to politicians these days is ridiculous.
    And adults wonder why their kids are suffering from cyber bullying.
    I wonder where they learn.
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    the way people are talking to ANY other people these days is ridiculous. Very few people can carry on a respectful conversation. Most people these days don't even take the time to hear someone's position before they launch an attac…
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    the way politicians talk to us is ridiculous all they do is lie 🙄
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    its not just how they talk to politicians its how they talk to everyone online .
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  • Try being a boomer, the only thing I ask stay off my grass

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    the way politicians are lying and bullying is what has made this acceptable. Last election I remember the conservatives running there, but he has nice hair ads. People are mad now because they are starting to see the lies and be personally hurt by the cuts.

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This is the absolute epitome of pathetic journalism.
I made a heartfelt post about cyber bullying and the level of discourse in our society, with honest intentions of encouraging society to behave better.
CBC chose to report that the email I shared was only purported, as if it may have somehow been fabricated, and as if politicians seemingly deserve to be denigated and sworn at. That right there justifies the post that I made.
Let me be clear: The Federal Government is not creating literal concentration camps. I come from Jewish lineage. I had family members who spent time at the Kananaskis PoW camp. I would never make a mockery of concentration camps, and my comment reaffirming that our Provincial government was not establishing quarantine facilities was not intended to peddle conspiracy theories about legitimate concentration camps. It was meant to clear the air with a concerned constituent.
I did not once even say the words "concentration camp".
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Do tell did you enjoy my email and my comments in CBC last evening??? Methinks your fan should fell behind on her 'fact checking" before jerking the chain of a very fierce political animal N'esy Pas? https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
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Trust that i will be making comments in CBC about this in fact I have been for quite some time https://cairnsnews.org/.../canadian-politician-leaks.../...
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reading propaganda rags gives you propaganda.
Clearly you don't know who I am
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nonsense. Where would our homeless shelter if not for safe sites. Or those dependant on federal housing or living in generational homes?? These are already in existence. But they are NOT CONCENTRATION CAMPS...that's propaganda and bs.
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CBC is trash propaganda. Keep your head up. As one of your constituents I think you’re doing a great job. You don’t deserve any of this. 🖤
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Nicole H.
of course she deserves it, the federal government would set up concentration camps? They really need to make some educational minimums for people who run in government. How does not understand how the constitution works.
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Selvin Mathew
obviously she assumed the loon was referring to the quarinteen facilities Trudeau wants to build.
Sure a lot of perfect people on this thread, or do they just enjoy being as mean as they can be to their neighbors?
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Melanie Delorme
What quarantine facility does Trudeau want to build? Would you mind pointing me to that source?
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Selvin Mathew
sure, i'll go find the link for you. ..
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Trash is rumour mongering.
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The media are very quick to twist words to create “issues” that do not exist and thereby boost their circulation. This is dirty journalism
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Are you (still) suggesting that concentration camps might be set up by the Trudeau government? Because that's the issue to me.
Denigration, threats, swears have no place in politics - truly despicable.
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Stay strong Miranda. Opponents attack good people when they are threatened by them.
Keep up the good work
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You wrote the post that implies that if camps were set up, it would be the federal government doing it. Be an adult and own your words.
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This is mixing up two stories: one is that you commented on a rumour and helped spread misinformation about concentration camps, which you should not have done as an elected official.
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Shame on the CBC. I no longer have respect for them. They are not journalists. Shame on them.
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You of course realize that saying “if the rumours are true” signals that, at the very least, you’re open to the idea that rumours about the “camps” *could* be true. No one would say “if the earth is flat” unless they weren’t entirely sure about the sha…
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The fact remains that you mentioned that it would have been the federal government, which you did not substantiate or clarify. You deserve the heat for that
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This is on you and your useless band of thieves and charlatans. You got busted in a ridiculous, shameful attempt to push Alberta back to the Dark Ages, no pun intended. Absolutely, lost in a netherworld. If you think Albertans are going to fall for your trump like rhetoric, you are sadly mistaken. Oh, and it’s because Albertans are well educated and not the idiots bred from the American system of (non) education. Try coming into 21st Century Alberta!
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You stated that the Federal Government was considering COVID concentration camps. You are lying about that. Your government is actively avoiding any leadership on COVID and the result will be more dead Albertans. But you hold your head up about that nasty reporter! Embarrassing.
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Stephen Carter not a single NDP talking point missed! You must love the attention Notley gives you when you show up for her. You're a clown and should stay in your lane.
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Not a NDP supporter. “You’re” embarrassing.
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Robert Ede
Big fan of partisan lies are you? Miranda fucked up. She will be getting a call from the CoS. You know how I know that? I used to be the one making the call.
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Robert Ede Born in Alberta where my grandparents on both sides homesteaded around 1898. Lived my life here as most of my rather substantial family has. Farmers, welders , teachers, accountants, cowboys, professors, artists etc. We love Alberta and we want the best for our children, grandchildren , nieces , nephews etc. That who I am. Nothing unreal about it.Miranda tried to spin a lie. An irresponsible even dangerous lie. You can not bullshit your way out of that nor can she.
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Stephen Carter
oooh he got me on a spelling error on my phone, whatever will I do!!!!! Typical old man response. Take a nap and come back when YOU'RE less cranky.
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Stephen Carter
🤣🤣🤣🤣 in my day we used to walk uphill both ways. Alright grandpa enough with the stories.
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Robert Ede Calling people a clown does not pass for intelligent conversation.
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Garrell Clark albertans against Jason kenney 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 my god where do you clowns come from. Its unreal
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Garrell Clark
ok, and? I thought you stood on the doctrine no matter where you are born, or where you are from, you can be accepted here. So why are you now using the opposite to argue against me? Using your families lineage as a superiority over someone in a debate. I just exposed you, have a good night.
Stephen Carter
go back to your socialist whole, and take all the fear mongering socialist libtards with you, and stop trying to turn our Country into a laughing stock welfare state.
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“Hole” - are you really that dumb?
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Stephen Carter
Perhaps I should have said "collective" read between the lines. I guess I was expecting too much from an "Educated" person.
Perhaps you enjoyed watching how the NDP tried to systematically destroy your provinces economy, and now the Trudeau agenda to finish the job? There can be a lot said about all politicians working in their own best interests rather than for the people, always been my opinion that the fewer politicians and public servants you have, the better off we all are.
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Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.
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This is just journalism. They report on the facts as they are presented to them. I don’t know if it actually is you who posts on social media or a staff member but once something in the public domain it must be dealt with one way or another. An immediate retraction and apology comes to mind.
You receiving abuse is a separate matter. It is not okay.
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Well said my friend and the CBC would be answering on Trudeau direction. So no true Canadians believes a word that cancer propaganda ration has to say
You joked that the federal government might be creating concentration camps. That was hardly responsible, and as you're aware, concentration camps are no joke.
I'm sorry you get offensive and derogatory emails; I don't support that happening to anyone.
Please, however, take responsibility for what you said.
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The CBC might as well be the National Enquirer the way they spin things. Only NDP supporters led by their habitually lying Queen Rachel would believe this bullshit. And make no mistake. There is no lie Rachel won't say to inflame her people. It's pathetic.
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You don't "clear the air" by saying if there were such camps they would be the federal government's. Not irresponsible journalism. Your remark was irresponsible. It shows a lack of maturity and understanding of how to stop spreading conspiracy theories. A responsible person would have said no such things exists nor will it ever. A responsible person would have told the individual that they are confusing the need to find safe spaces for homeless people with something more nefarious. Major cities are asking provincial and federal governments to help house the homeless just as governments are asked to help house evacuees from fires. This is what an intelligent person would explain. Own it and stop blaming the media for your blunder. Taking responsibility for what one says and the harm it does is called maturity.
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The government has actually said these camps are for people who dont believe in the virus.
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At least politics are keeping people entertained in a morbid kind of way..its like a bad soap opera.
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Marjorie Sawinski it is like a bad soap opera, or even a horrible accident we can't help but look at, but it really can lead to terrible things.
We are Canada. We have health care and CERB. Our mortality rate from COVID is a little more than one third…
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People are already scared and making a remark of "Concentration Camp" was unnecessary especially that you come from Jewish descendants and family that spent time in Kananaskis PoW camp. You have to watch you write because it will backfire.
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Isn't there any journalistic ethics anymore ?
A publicly funded organization like the CBC should have higher standards.
Someone should sue.
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Tod Magnusson
someone should sue all the ill-informed that get to come here and slander people, institutions and governments without thought or responsible research.
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Stand tall, Miranda. Consider the source.
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Marguerite Denis
which has a much higher standard of journalism is comparison to the propaganda that American owned Postmedia rags "report".
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But I don't understand why you would say it would be the federal government that would do it ....why would you imply something like that and to a concentration camp?!! I found that really immature and childish of you... "So when we have politicians making irresponsible statements, you're really contributing to a public health crisis," he said. "The other thing that is fascinating about this story, is this is a pretty hardcore conspiracy theory. This is not something that is even rational. "It demonstrates the incredible traction that misinformation can have."
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Hmmm. Quite honestly and sincerely I say, Sorry that you were misinterpreted and your family had to endure what they did.
I do wonder if Indigenous and First Nation people feel as you do when their history is removed from Alberta school curriculum.
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funny enough, that was also a CBC story. Trash. Absolute trash. CBC should go
the way of the dinosaur.
Thankfully this was a draft (of absolute junk from those advisers)...not a draft from “government” as CBC headlines suggest. Even those of
us on the right (including me) see that proposal for the junk it was.
It was not and is not a government thing - it was headline sensationalism by CBC.
Note from their
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“He said the proposals will go before hundreds of teachers and experts who serve on curriculum working groups for feedback later this fall before the minister signs off on the curriculum.”
Nice tangent though. Now back to the original post..
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Blaine Gb Not trash. the CBC reported accurately. That was the recommendation of the UCP's hand picked racist advisory committee.
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The CBC used well worded headlines to suggest the govt was pushing this through, and you and your NDP colleagues jumped on it as if it was a done deal. You are part of the problem today Garrell - propagating myth before fact and sowing division amongst Albertans.
How about “shutup and see what happens”, because the no political party is stupid enough to proceed with the curriculum as suggested.
I am willing to wait and see what’s done.
...Because despite leaning slightly right of centre, I too would be disgusted with this curriculum. But guess what? It is NOT a curriculum. It was some stuff on paper collated from a variety of sources. But that’s enough for folks like you to go off yelling and screaming. Grow up.
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Correction - it wasn’t even a working copy of a draft. It was hundreds (if not more than 1000) people’s ideas added to a spreadsheet. Cue the leftist-media-propaganda hate machine.
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Jacquelyn Tobin
what was removed? I heard the education minister say it's not negotiable it will be taught.
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Jacquelyn Tobin
, don't just run with the NDP talking points and lies.
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'That is non-negotiable,” said LaGrange. However, she would not say at what age she thought it would be appropriate to begin teaching about residential schools.'
Alberta has not made final decisions on curriculum recommendations that include delaying lessons on residential schools, LaGrange says
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Alberta has not made final decisions on curriculum recommendations that include delaying lessons on residential schools, LaGrange says
Alberta has not made final decisions on curriculum recommendations that include delaying lessons on residential schools, LaGrange says
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Hey, I posted a non-CBC story where Minister would not commit to which grades would be taught.
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Jacquelyn
I know right... they’re so busy screaming about “facts” that you can’t even catch their attention by smacking them with a legitimate one
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They won’t commit because they don’t know yet. How dense are you?? Lindsae says you’re hitting with facts? Ha! Nope.
Here is a fact: They cannot commit to a grade because they do NOT have a curriculum yet. As stated above, they won’t until they eng…
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Direct quotes from the Minister were posted. There is no spin. But given the amount of times Albertans were told one thing but UCP did another, there definitely is no trust.
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Blaine Gb
you grow up and quit playing bully pulpit.
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Blaine Gb
you were there in the meeting so you can assure us none of this will appear in the curriculum. Ok. However we DO KNOW WHAT IS BEING ELIMINATED and that IS a travesty.
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Marilee, you nasty name caller, you...oh my goodness.
Oh, wait, sorry, what name did I use?
And no, you do NOT know what is being eliminated because it is NOT fact, it is NOT decided, and there is NO curriculum.
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Marilee Barry
still waiting for you to prove my facts wrong, and show me some name calling here...
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Still waiting Marilee...it’s been 20 minutes now. Are you feeling like a gaslighting hypocrite perhaps?
1) where was I factually incorrect? This was a draft, not of the government’s design, not a meeting, and there is no curriculum. There is no deci…
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Blaine Gb
as if I'm going to bother with your bait ND switch. No thanks. You are welcome to your opinions. I've just stated mine. She was wrong to say it, wrong to try and turn it into a pity party for being called out and you are heading off on another tangent of your own. Russia or just simple conspiracy theorist, I don't have the energy to engage with someone hell bent on propagating radical right nonsense. Have fun Blaine.
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Blaine seems pretty centre to me. He states clearly that he does not like the draft himself. But he is also
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Teagan Deogi
exactly! and yet she is again here chirping about “bait and switch”(???) and STILL has not shown me where my facts are incorrect or where I name called. And yet she did both (name called and incorrect facts). Seems a lot more radical to one side than I am. that’s for sure.
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Oooh goodness, Blaine. She better get right on board with your demand.
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Jacquelyn, I could care less if she is on board with my “demand”...I assume you mean my request that she substantiate any of the claims she made in her attack on me (vs. attacking what I said as would occur in an intelligent debate).
It’s clear she isn’t capable of defending her inaccurate statements. They can’t be defended because she was wrong - Whereas nothing I said was incorrect.
So much of the division in this province exists because folks like you two spew inaccuracies as fact. At one point, left and right could have an intelligent conversation. As Teagan states above, I am very centrist. That’s the funny part. We likely want the same thing in the curriculum. But only one of us is willing to recognize reality from fairy tales. Folks like you two are arguing that “something that doesn’t even exist yet is somehow fact”. 🤦‍♂️
How can you not see how asinine this is?
I can’t continue to converse at this level today - I’ve already helped the kids with grade school homework and literacy this morning. Good day.
Which curriculum are you teaching?
Blaine Gb
nasty, name calling gaslighting folks like you enjoy pretending you are fact checking when you entire reason of existence is to throw shade... Russian much there Vlad?
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I've seen some really ugly stuff from the conservatives as well. Even uglier.
The remarks made toward Catherine McKenna the previous environment minister, were exceptionally vile....and there were personal threats.
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Paul Goutiere
oh I agree. The issue of low public discourse spans all political stripes.
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Especially toward women, which is particularly troublesome.
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Paul Goutiere truthfully, my male colleagues have received hate mail just as severe as I have. It spans all genders and partisan stripes. It is a societal issue.
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Its called misogyny and it seems to be the cornerstone of the UCP party.
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Miranda Rosin
It's a negative aspect of your job, and unrelated to the divisive disinformation you are lending credence to.
Woman up and own your opinions.
Do you, or do you not believe that my country is secretly building COVID camps?
If so, investigate. Do your job. Expose it. Or stop supporting disinformation in a pandemic.
This is really dangerous stuff you are dabbling in. Do you want the kind of divisiveness we see in the states?
If you made a mistake, then own it.
If you believe Canadians will be imprisoned in COVID camps, then speak out.
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🙄 you keep being you. Most of us know how awesome you are!
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It sucks that you have to deal with abusive emails.
It is a much more serious issue, however if Canadians have to deal with elected officials who lend credence to disinformation during a pandemic.
Did you or did you not write "If the rumours (of COVID camps) are true, those are being set up by the federal government, not us."?
If so, you owe Canada and Canadians a public apology.
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The CBC article refers to your Facebook answer not to a letter. It says :"While responding to a constituent on Tuesday, MLA Miranda Rosin said the provincial government would never create so-called COVID-19 concentration camps, referring to a disinformation campaign circulating on social media. (Facebook)"
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Did you write the post suggesting that the UCP would never do it, but if "camps" existed it would be the Federal Government who would? It looks like a message with your name on it. I'm afraid that is a very misleading, divisive message to spread. If you did say it then you need to pay the piper. Its irresponsible to throw shade like this at your opposition. This type of mischaracterization is what is creating the ugliness in politics. It isn't something you want to be known for. Apologize, explain how wrong the comment is and move on. I would respect that.
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Don't give airtime to conspiracy, and don't complain about it when you get called out for doing so. Be a professional, we don't pay you to create more division or seed more lies.
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Adam Daniel
Look, I acknowledged that I should have denounced the use of the word "concentration camp" in the individual's comment.
But I genuinely do not believe that acknowledging such quarantine facilities were only but a rumor, while confirming that our provincial government is not setting them up, is giving airtime to a conspiracy.
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Miranda Rosin
You are still not taking responsibility for your ignorant remarks. I'm not a Liberal but these conspiracy theories are a danger to the world. Please be very very clear and do not waver when you denounce the concentration camp bullshit.
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Miranda Rosin
you are correct, those things are not "giving airtime to a conspiracy."
Saying "if the rumours are true, then it's the federal government doing it" IS giving airtime to a conspiracy.
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I agree with Julian Power it's the "if the rumours are true" comment that is the problem. You could not resist the urge to put the integrity of the Federal Government in question. As a member of the public service you SHOULD at least be informed enough to say without question that the "concentration camps" are nothing but a conspiracy theory to discredit the federal government. I get your on the opposite side and are more for Corporate Welfare then the Social Welfare programs that benefit the taxpayers in Canada, but you shouldn't have to rely on half truths and lies to get your message across. If you truly believe in your message it should stand on it's own without giving any credence to crazy theories.
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Miranda Rosin
look why are you so defensive?! You did not really denounce anything “I suppose” is not denouncing! And you were making insinuations about the federal govt that could be part of it! “If the rumours are true...” Again Your responses are childish, immature and the fact that you don’t understand why what you said is part of spreading misinformation is also disappointing.
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Actually it seems pretty factual and a Timothy Caulfield is an expert in his field. How cavalier of you, off the cuff, to say the Feds are likely responsible. Do your homework before making a comment. You are in the public eye and everything you say and do is under scrutiny.
Why because it’s true! Good onher a honest MLA that spoke out
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WHAT?!?!?! And now you have to deal with CBC! That's what they chose to twist out of the email. Unreal. Hold your head high, stay humble, stay focussed - you're doing a great job!
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Miranda you are doing an awesome job. I work the front lines with covid 19 and on some local chatter pages they talk about the shelter we work at etc. And how bad the homeless are etc and I have to scroll by it because of this very reason. You are very brave. Keep looking up.
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Colleen Douglas
where do you work and how does what she said exonerate you and what you are doing?? I don't see the connection unless you ARE saying you work in something equivalent to a "concentration camp".
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Feds have a bid out for isolation camps to be built in every province.
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"If the rumours are true ... " ???
You knew what you were doing when you chose those words.
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I don’t think it’s pathetic journalism. I think it’s a pretty black and white picture of the series of events that took place. I saw all the posts.
A few things to note:
1) you should’ve ignored if not deleted the highly emotionally loaded comment on the first post.
2) your response epitomizes the exact partisan politics you later went on to disagree with
3) your mistake is forgivable
4) no one ever deserves the amount of disrespect you were shown in that email
5) I think you have good intentions.
My politics don’t align with yours, and we disagree on almost everything but to your further point discourse is important.
Accept this as a learning experience.
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Kimber Ly
nonsense. You spout nonsense, Karen.
Bahahaha another misogynistic insult. Filed under “no fucks given”
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David Little
that’s not how you use that as an insult... try harder next time 😘
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Methinks CBC had that attitude with me since 2002 check page 14 then ask Sophia Harris if she dares to call mea liar but i already know where you will put this old file of mine but somebody else may wish to have a look N'esy Pas? https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
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All this while a sitting prime minister threatens fo shut down government again to escape being questioned under oath by the ethics committee.
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Robert Ede
oh yes. Amid a HUGE hot air balloon called a "scandal". Oh please.
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Marilee Barry
living in denial must be hard for you.
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Guess there was no Liberal corruption to report on for once so they had to try to create something out of nothing.
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Lending credence? Seriously? This is a stretch even for CBC.
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Craig Boone
as if Postmedia doesn't spread the damnedest propaganda I've ever read...and they aren't even a Canadian owned company. They write pablum. I'd trust CBC any day. And she said it. It's in black and white, literally.
Marilee Barry
This was shoddy journalism and it is most certainly not 'literal'. Any real journalist would have sought clarification before publishing such nonsense.
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No surprise. The CBC is a taxpayer funded propaganda machine for the left.
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prove it
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Well said Miranda! Good to see you speaking out
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Alex Macklam
yay and the earth is really flat!!!!!
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Don’t mind the CBC, they’re a bought & paid for federal liberal propaganda machine! Keep up the good fight Miranda!!
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Guss McKinney The CBC is still governed by a Harper appointed board of directors.
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This is ridiculous and a shining example of what’s wrong with journalism today.
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There is nothing wrong with journalism today. The problem is social media.
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Once again, blame it on the liberals! That's like what, number two out of the three CON responses!!
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‘Not creating literal concentration camps’ ... strange you add ‘literal’ in there. Can’t you just say ‘The federal government is not creating any concentration camps’. That’s much clearer.
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Leave it to the left to split hairs over this. They always try to isolate and criticize their ideological opponent for no reason. Classic Marxist move. No place for that in Alberta. I’m with you Miranda.
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You have done a terrible thing spreading misinformation, especially during a pandemic. Shame on You.
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Lori Cameron
You must work for theCBC
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Shame in you for perpetuating conspiracy theories. Get real.
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Now you know how we all feel about the lying CBC....take it with the same grain of salt we all do....we ALL know CBC is done.
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Tina Fox
you've got to be kidding. It's the only reliable Canadian source out there with trained journalists. Postmedia is owned by the AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE RIGHT with some extremely questionable writers..I've fact checked their articles numerous times...and more often than not they are misleading or poorly research/bias.
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You have an absolute phenomenal ability to try to turn everything into a "look at me...... feel sorry for me moment"...
SMH 🙄
The point of the article is TO highlight how absolutely
insane you are. And lacking in intelligence......
But you score really high on deception...... knavery, trickery.
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No more tax dollars for CBC.
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If you are Jewish, why were you handing out hams at Easter?
Shame on you for your remarks. They were no accident.
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Your response was screen shotted. The "Issues Manager" advising you to pivot the issue and frame it as a failure to correct the terminology "concentration camp" is not going to work.
You said: "If the rumours are true, those are being set up by the Federal Government, and not us."
THAT is perpetuating a harmful conspiracy theory, in a pandemic, with potentially deadly consequences.
It is of THAT remark that you should be ashamed.
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CBC has been going to trash this year and this adds to the mess they continually make. Its American style journalism. We have to be on this and thank you for calling them out. If you are saying Federal gov is creating concentration camps you need to leave the public arena. Now.
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no, Postmedia is OWNED by American Conservatives and if you read their rags are very poor at journalism. CBC may be considered more "liberal" but they aren't as bias to the right as these other publications cropping up out of the states or online.
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Sounds like concentration camps
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No. What is PATHETIC is the denial and the BUT if true! Then it "isn't us! It is the Fed Libs!"""
WHAT UTTER ROT!!!!
The CBC is a joke, and they only distort to promote their agenda for Trudeau. The concern about the internment camps is very legit. Very sketchy and needs to be looked into deeply. Justin has close ties to George Soros who is not favorable to Jews or Christians so definitely what you need to keep your eye on!
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Stop your witch hunt. Miranda has done nothing wrong. By the way, I wonder why Randy Hillier was kicked out of Toronto Parliament for asking about the RFP the very ethical Trudeau sent out to build these “facilities”. It’s difficult to understand how people could be suspicious of what their governments might be doing when they are being locked down repeatedly and have no freedom and their businesses are not being allowed to operate, huge fines levied, children wearing masks (I thought children rarely caught this), police brutality happening, censoring of dissenting opinions on Facebook (very democratic) and the MSM reporting only one side of the story. I guess they’re all just Conspiracy Theorists.
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WE know the liberals have something to hide and Randy was making them uncomfortable in one of their plans.
Jonny David
I don’t support that. That’s not what my comment was about.
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You can't trust the CBC for balanced reporting. They are lazy and biased.
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Devin Hauswirth
She said it. It was irresponsible. The CBC reported what she said. They did their job perfectly.
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We need to wake up people. They are building concentration camps(re education facilities) for people who do not believe in the virus. We arein germnay 1945 right now. This is insanity. For a virus that is less deadly then the lockdowns themselves.
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This is and was a part of agenda 21.
"This is insanity" Yep...believing unfounded, divisive, crap IS insanity.
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Lost is the art of one to one communication, did a reporter even attempt to chat to you about your post? Probably not, because then they couldn't sleep at night writing the garbage that they do.
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i guess you didnt read the article. It states that they did reach out but received no reply from Miranda or anyone else in her office.
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Jay Michael
I did read, but yeah must have missed that part, theory still applies though.
So it said she wasn't immediately available. So they tried once? Maybe she was immediately busy?
Chandra Nick
the theory that they didnt bother to reach out?
They arent the rebel. They actually do try to get the story from all perspectives.
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Jay Michael
at least the Rebel, usually shows up on someone's doorstep for comments trying to get one as media shuns them. Not a fan, but at least they do show up in front of people)
Chris Schnurr sounds like an out, they called and expected her to just cancel what she was doing to come to the phone immediately? And then dropped the story? Or did they drop the story and then they to call?
Chandra Nick
did you even attempt to read the article?
Shannan Frey
did you even read my other comments on this thread? If you are going to troll, try comprehension as well.
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The government should stay out of Covid. They have no right to legislate personal choice or behavior. There are no over run hospital or Healthcare crisis, and people die every single day from non legislated preventable causes. Let us get back to life and get the libtards out of power before our country becomes even more of a pathetic welfare case.
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Pretty funny to see your comment in the context of your profile picture showing a sea of mindless stormtroopers who historically miss their shot!
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Jordan Furness
that is a reach for sure, but at least I can proudly say that I EARNED every dollar I spent to build that suit. And you have to admit, it looks freaking cool! And as a side note, if you watch much of the expanded universe of Star Wars, you would know that Storm troopers are actually quite accurate in their aim. On the death star they were not meaning to kill Luke and Leia, they were hearding them, as Vader sensed Luke's Power and wanted to confront him in order to determine his origins as a way to prevent another Jedi Uprising against the Empire. Yes, I am a nerd!
Jonny David if OUR taxes were properly appropriated towards services and rather than inflated beurocracy, creating corporate red tape and campaigns of public misinformation, then we wouldn't have to be concerned with our taxes going up. Alberta already has one of the largest public health expenditures of all of the Canadian provinces per capita, we just spend way too much of it on special interests and unnecessary services. Which is why the UCP reviews of our Healthcare system, and the idea of shifting certain services such as janitorial to the private sector. Large government and civil servant bodies intentionally create bloated expenditures in order to justify larger funding year over year. Its paramount to printing money for themselves, and we all pay for it. Rather than focus on creating efficiencies in providing service, they add more money to their budgets and expect us to foot the bill.
Again, large government just creates large problem.
Jonny David and again, hospitals are not in any danger of being overwhelmed, they have had almost a year to prepare for it. The only burden being placed due to this covid scare is on the people who either can't go to work, or can't be provided proper service. My son couldn't even go see a doctor about an infection because they told him he needed a Covid test before he could even get in the door, now he has to wait 3-5 days, with a possible strep infection pending the results of a test before he can get treatment. So while 600 ICU beds sit open and waiting to treat these horribly inflicted Covid victims, my son suffers with a real medical issue? That is the reality of this covid nightmare. Not the virus itself, but everyone's media and government fed paranoia.
Paul Townsend
I'm sorry, I did not know and would not criticize such a cool homemade suit! I was actually meaning to reference the background photo you have showing the fleet of stormtroopers. I am also a Star Wars novice and may be remembering Family Guy's various commentaries on Star Wars more than the stormtroopers true record of achievement!
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Jordan Furness
oh, the Background photo! If you look closely you can see the one stormtroopers who is holding what looks to be a bag of popcorn. That is me. Lol
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Extremely disappointed to read the suggestion of concentration camps might be set up by the Federal government. An elected official should use better judgment when making random off-handed comments that aren't based on reality.
We need a law that forces politicians complete a minimum of an MBA to be able to hold office.
Miranda were talking about a taxpayer funded, complete opposite of credible reporting, there not worth your time, or obviously anyone else’s either. They have a 12% viewership. My granddaughters home plays have a bigger audience
What the hell is wrong with you? Stop feeding in to misinformation and nonsense. Every day that goes by where the people of Fort McMurray are unemployed and struggling is a fail for your government. We elected you do to BETTER. Stop fucking failing us and blaming others. That's NOT leadership. It's pure bullshit.
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Liberal degree journalism. Thank god the generation watching this happen will grow up and get rid of these fake journalists swiftly.
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Robert Ede
Thank god young people are abandoning the conservative party.
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Garrell Clark
that's why the UCP win a landslide majority, with a historic turnout of young voter???????????
Better check the polls now.
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Garrell Clark
I did, and always do. Thank god I'm right.
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Alright now this is getting fking funny!!
Why not solve this by hitting some golf balls at a cardboard cut out of Trudope or Notley?!! That outta show everyone how fking mature you lot are, and how much you oppose cyber bullying?
Maybe a meet and greet with the Soldiers of Odin?
A fundraiser to break Don McIntyre out of jail after getting caught for fking around with a ten year old girl and telling her it was god’s wish???! UCP’s founding father.
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    Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others
    Methinks the RCMP & "Peace Officers" hired by Higgy et al must have noticed that the politically appointed lawyer Chucky Murray ignored Higgy's orders and removed his mask as he discussed CPP with Higgy's favourite welfare bum N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

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    Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others
    Methinks everybody knows why nobody listens to the sneaky politically appointed lawyer Chucky Murray N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Ombud says Health Department should reveal sites tested during Moncton legionnaires outbreak

    Province claimed information couldn’t be released as it would financially harm third party

     
    Shane Magee· CBC News· Posted: Oct 23, 2020 6:00 AM AT 
     
     

    Cooling towers on Organigram's marijuana production plant in the Moncton industrial park. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)

    New Brunswick's ombud says the provincial Health Department incorrectly withheld information about locations tested during a legionnaires disease outbreak in Moncton last year.

    The department blacked out a list of locations tested in a document released to CBC News last October in response to a right to information request citing potential financial harm to the locations tested. CBC argued the province incorrectly applied the law to withhold the information. 

    Ombud Charles Murray agreed in an 11-page decision released Friday and recommended it be released. Murray's ruling says the province's concerns about a financial impact was "speculative at best."

    "The Department's primary concern was about revealing the identified source of the outbreak," Murray wrote, noting his review only looked at the list of locations tested.

    The specific sites are not mentioned in Murray's report. 

    An Aug. 13 email to Organigram employees says testing found 'elevated bacteria counts' in its new cooling tower system and that they were cleaned. (Shane Magee/CBC)

    The outbreak was declared in August 2019 and officially ended a month later after 16 people became ill with the severe form of pneumonia, with 15 spending time in hospital.

    The province traced the outbreak to cooling towers on the roof of a section of Organigram's cannabis production facility under construction in the Moncton industrial park, CBC has previously reported.

    Organigram neither confirmed or denied it was the source, and told employees last year its product wasn't affected.

    Some of those who became ill expressed frustration they were kept in the dark about what sent them to hospital.

    Since the province wouldn't say where the outbreak began, CBC filed right to information requests about the outbreak.

    The right to information law allows people to request records held by public bodies like provincial departments.

    They must respond within 30 business days and disclose the information or provide specific reasons why it can't be released based on exemptions in the law. 


    The provincial government blacked out the locations of sites tested for legionella bacteria last summer, citing a section of the Right to Information law that allows it to withhold information that may financially harm third parties. 

    The law allows those unsatisfied with a public body's response to file a complaint that's investigated by the ombud's office.

    In the department's response analyzed by the ombud, the department had used a section of the law that requires it not to release a third party's financial, technical or scientific information.

    The province argued disclosure could result in financial harm to the unnamed third parties.

    CBC filed a complaint arguing the information couldn't possibly contain technical, financial or scientific information. 

    Murray agreed in the ruling delayed months by the COVID-19 pandemic.

    He wrote that the main concern raised by the health department was that the information could "lead the public to have a negative impression that would impact commercial operations, resulting in significant financial loss." 

    However, he said "little evidence" was presented on whether the information blacked was commercial, financial, scientific, or technical information. 

    Murray also rejected an argument by the department that disclosing locations tested could reduce cooperation in future public health investigations. He pointed out it is illegal to hinder or obstruct a health inspector.

    The right to information law doesn't grant Murray power to order release of the information, so the province can ignore the ruling and keep the information secret. The province has 20 business days to decide what to do.

    Bruce Macfarlane, a spokesperson for the health department, said Thursday the department is "looking into" the ombud's ruling and will make a decision in the coming days. 


    Ombud Charles Murray ruled in his report released last Friday that the province incorrectly used a section of the Right to Information Act to withhold information about sites tested during the outbreak. (Nicolas Steinbach/Radio-Canada)

    The outbreak led to the department preparing a report examining what happened and its response. That report had not been completed as of August. 

    Macfarlane said in August that the report will include a recommendation the province implement a cooling tower registry. A registry would help public health officials know where cooling towers are located when trying to find the source of an outbreak. 

    Mist from the cooling towers that contains the bacteria can be carried into the surrounding environment, where people breathe it in. The illness is contracted by breathing in the mist.

    Read Ombud Charles Murray's decision:

     
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    Shane Magee

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    Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC. 

     

     
     
     
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    David Amos
    Methinks everybody knows why nobody listens to that politically appointed lawyer N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Fred Brewer
    Profits before health? Mr. Higgs you should be ashamed.
     
     
    Terry Tibbs
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    Reply to @Fred Brewer:
    Right. Piggs will grow wings and fly before shame could be felt by that person you name.
     
     
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
     
     
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: The same holds true for his Ombud buddy Chucky 
     
     
     
     
     
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    From: "Murray, Charles (OIC/BCI)"<Charles.Murray@gnb.ca>
    Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 20:41:39 +0000
    Subject: Re: Methinks Mr Jones of CBC should report that Mikey Holland
    got what he wanted about "Not So Smart" Meters from the EUB N'esy Pas?
    To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

    Mr. Amos,

    I noticed today that you are still including Tim Richardson in your
    distribution list.

    You may be unaware of Mr. Richardson's recent passing:

    http://obituaries.telegraphjournal.com/book-of-memories/4319346/Richardson-Timothy/obituary.php



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    Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 06:05:33 -0300
    Subject: YO Higgy Methinks Mr Jones of CBC should report that Mikey
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    "Mark.Blakely"<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Roger.Brown"
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    Thursday, 3 September 2020
    NB Power rate-hike holiday not an election gimmick, PCs insist

    https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies


    David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
    Replying to @alllibertynews and 49 others
    Content disabled
    Methinks Mr Jones should report that Mikey Holland expects the
    decision he wants from the EUB about NB Power going forward with their
    "Not So Smart" Meter plans by Friday N'esy Pas?


     #nbpoli #cdnpoli


    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-increase-election-1.5708540



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    From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 10:50:48 -0300
    Subject: YO NORMAN J. BOSSÉ Q.C. At least your lawyer can't play dumb
    To: Norman.Bosse@gnb.ca, Charles.Murray@gnb.ca, "hugh.flemming"
    <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "Ginette.PetitpasTaylor"
    <Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca>, ray.adlington@mcinnescooper.com,
    "Frank.McKenna"<Frank.McKenna@td.com>, "blaine.higgs"
    <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"<Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>,
    David.Lametti@parl.gc.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca, "andrea.anderson-mason"
    <andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca>, "Nathalie.Drouin"
    <Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>
    Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
    kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Jolene.harvey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
    Sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "hon.ralph.goodale"
    <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>





    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: "Anderson-Mason, Andrea Hon. (JAG/JPG)"<Andrea.AndersonMason@gnb.ca>
    Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 13:49:21 +0000
    Subject: Automatic reply: YO NORMAN J. BOSSÉ Q.C. Re my right to
    Health Care Methinks you should have been decent enough to return my
    calls or answer my emails instead of having your minion piss me off
    N'esy Pas?
    To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>


    Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are
    greatly valued.  You can be assured that all emails and letters are
    carefully read, reviewed and taken into consideration.
    If your issue is Constituency related, please contact Lisa Bourque at
    my constituency office at
    Lisa.Bourque@gnb.ca<mailto:Lisa.Bourque@gnb.ca>  or  (506) 755-2810.
    Thank you.


    Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
    nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations. Nous
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    Lisa Bourque  à  Lisa.Bourque@gnb.ca<mailto:Lisa.Bourque@gnb.ca>  ou
    (506)755-2810.
    Merci.

    Andrea Anderson-Mason, Q.C. / c.r.

    ​​​​​






    On 9/24/19, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On 9/10/19, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> NORMAN J. BOSSÉ Q.C.
    >> Phone : (506) 453-2789
    >> Fax : (506) 453-5599
    >> Email : Norman.Bosse@gnb.ca
    >>
    >>
    >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    >> From: Barbara Massey <Barbara.Massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
    >> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 12:38:14 -0400
    >> Subject: Re: Yo Mr Butts Are your ears burning? If not then you are
    >> not reading the spin and the comments within CBC N'esy Pas? (Out of
    >> Office )
    >> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
    >>
    >> I will be away on duty until Sept. 13, 2019.  In my absence, you may
    >> contact:
    >> Jolene Harvey (Acting Sr. Gen. Counsel)  613 843 4892;
    >> Jolene.harvey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca or my Exec. Asst. – Sandra Lofaro 613 843
    >> 3540; Sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca.
    >>
    >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >> Je serai absente en mission jusqu'au 13 sept.,  2019.  Pendant mon
    >> absence, vous pouvez communiquer avec Jolene Harvey (Avocate gén.
    >> princ.) au  613 843 4892; Jolene.harvey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ou avec mon adj.
    >> exéc. - Sandra Lofaro 613 843 3540; Sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> ---------- Original message ----------
    >> From: Kevin Leahy <kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
    >> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:38:43 -0400
    >> Subject: Re: RE The call from the Boston cop Robert Ridge (857 259
    >> 9083) on behalf of the VERY corrupt Yankee DA Rachael Rollins
    >> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    >>
    >> French will follow
    >>
    >> Thank you for your email.
    >>
    >> For inquiries regarding EMRO’s Office, please address your email to
    >> acting EMRO Sebastien Brillon at sebastien.brillon@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
    >>
    >> For inquiries regarding CO NHQ Office, please address your email to
    >> acting CO Farquharson, David at David.Farquharson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
    >>
    >> All PPS related correspondence should be sent to my PPS account at
    >> kevin.leahy@pps-spp@parl.gc.ca
    >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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    >>
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    >>
    >> ---------- Original message ----------
    >> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    >> Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 11:55:57 -0400
    >> Subject: Re the CBA, the RCMP, Federal Court File # T-1557-15 and the
    >> Hearing before the Federal Court of Appeal on May 24th 2017
    >> To: ray.adlington@mcinnescooper.com, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
    >> "bob.paulson"<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
    >> <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"
    >> <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>, "bill.pentney"
    >> <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "jan.jensen"<jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>
    >> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, Mordaith
    >> <Mordaith@gmail.com>, "leanne.murray"
    >> <leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.com>, gopublic <gopublic@cbc.ca>,
    >> "Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "nick.moore"
    >> <nick.moore@bellmedia.ca>, "jeremy.keefe"
    >> <jeremy.keefe@globalnews.ca>, "steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
    >> "Gilles.Blinn"<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Moreau"
    >> <Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca>, sallybrooks25 <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>,
    >> oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch
    >> <jbosnitch@gmail.com>, "serge.rousselle"<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
    >> premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "brian.gallant"<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
    >> "Larry.Tremblay"<Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "luc.labonte"
    >> <luc.labonte@gnb.ca>
    >>
    >> As I told the RCMP who called me last month the proper time and place
    >> to discuss the CBA and your former partner Judge Richard Bell is the
    >> Federal Court of Canada
    >>
    >> Raymond G. Adlington Partner
    >> McInnes Cooper
    >> 1300-1969 Upper Water St., Purdy's Wharf Tower II PO Box 730, Stn.
    >> Central
    >> Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2V1
    >> Phone: (902) 444-8470
    >> Fax: (902) 425-6350
    >> E: ray.adlington@mcinnescooper.com
    >>
    >> http://www.mcinnescooper.com/news/ray-adlington-named-to-cba-board-of-directors/
    >>
    >> Ray Adlington named to CBA Board of Directors
    >>
    >>     May 2, 2017
    >>
    >> Halifax partner Ray Adlington was recently named to the CBA Board of
    >> Directors.
    >>
    >> In their announcement yesterday the CBA advised that the board would
    >> come into effect September 1st, 2017.
    >>
    >>     After collecting extensive input over the past two years, we know
    >> that CBA members believe it’s important for the organization to have a
    >> Board of Directors that reflects the diversity of the legal
    >> profession, including a mix of practice types, experience, skills,
    >> geography and more.
    >>     Our new Board of Directors exemplifies this principle.
    >>
    >> The board is composed from one member from each province as well as
    >> the CBA President.
    >>
    >> Congratulations Ray on this well deserved appointment.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> ---------- Original message ----------
    >>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    >>> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 16:15:59 -0400
    >>> Subject: Hey Ralph Goodale perhaps you and the RCMP should call the
    >>> Yankees Governor Charlie Baker, his lawyer Bob Ross, Rachael Rollins
    >>> and this cop Robert Ridge (857 259 9083) ASAP EH Mr Prime Minister
    >>> Trudeau the Younger and Donald Trump Jr?
    >>> To: pm@pm.gc.ca, Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
    >>> Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca, djtjr@trumporg.com,
    >>> Donald.J.Trump@donaldtrump.com, JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca,
    >>> Frank.McKenna@td.com, barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
    >>> Douglas.Johnson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
    >>> washington.field@ic.fbi.gov, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
    >>> gov.press@state.ma.us, bob.ross@state.ma.us, jfurey@nbpower.com,
    >>> jfetzer@d.umn.edu, Newsroom@globeandmail.com, sfine@globeandmail.com,
    >>> .Poitras@cbc.ca, steve.murphy@ctv.ca, David.Akin@globalnews.ca,
    >>> Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, news@kingscorecord.com,
    >>> news@dailygleaner.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com, jbosnitch@gmail.com,
    >>> andre@jafaust.com>
    >>> Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com, DJT@trumporg.com
    >>> wharrison@nbpower.com, David.Lametti@parl.gc.camcu@justice.gc.ca,
    >>> Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    >>>> From: "Murray, Charles (Ombud)"<Charles.Murray@gnb.ca>
    >>>> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:16:15 +0000
    >>>> Subject: You wished to speak with me
    >>>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>> I have the advantage, sir, of having read many of your emails over the
    >>>> years.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> As such, I do not think a phone conversation between us, and
    >>>> specifically one which you might mistakenly assume was in response to
    >>>> your threat of legal action against me, is likely to prove a
    >>>> productive use of either of our time.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> If there is some specific matter about which you wish to communicate
    >>>> with me, feel free to email me with the full details and it will be
    >>>> given due consideration.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Sincerely,
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Charles Murray
    >>>>
    >>>> Ombud NB
    >>>>
    >>>> Acting Integrity Commissioner
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
    >>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
    >>>>> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
    >>>>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Mr. Amos,
    >>>>> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
    >>>>> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
    >>>>> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
    >>>>> of Nova Scotia.  Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
    >>>>> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
    >>>>> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS.  Please note that we will
    >>>>> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Department of Justice
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well
    >>>>>> Please
    >>>>>> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz
    >>>>>> ilian.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
    >>>>>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
    >>>>>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
    >>>>>>> cards?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly200
    >>>>>>> 6
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
    >>>>>>> Senator Arlen Specter
    >>>>>>> United States Senate
    >>>>>>> Committee on the Judiciary
    >>>>>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
    >>>>>>> Washington, DC 20510
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
    >>>>>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the
    >>>>>>> matters
    >>>>>>> raised in the attached letter.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
    >>>>>>> tapes.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this
    >>>>>>> previously.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Very truly yours,
    >>>>>>> Barry A. Bachrach
    >>>>>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
    >>>>>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
    >>>>>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    >>>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
    >>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
    >>>>>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
    >>>>>> To: coi@gnb.ca
    >>>>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Good Day Sir
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
    >>>>>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
    >>>>>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
    >>>>>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
    >>>>>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
    >>>>>> suggested that you study closely.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> This is the docket in Federal Court
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> April 3rd, 2017
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The only hearing thus far
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> May 24th, 2017
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Date: 20151223
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Docket: T-1557-15
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> BETWEEN:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Plaintiff
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> and
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Defendant
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> ORDER
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
    >>>>>> December 14, 2015)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
    >>>>>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
    >>>>>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
    >>>>>> in its entirety.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
    >>>>>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
    >>>>>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the
    >>>>>> Canadian
    >>>>>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen
    >>>>>> Quigg,
    >>>>>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
    >>>>>> he stated:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including
    >>>>>> you.
    >>>>>> You are your brother’s keeper.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
    >>>>>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
    >>>>>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number
    >>>>>> of
    >>>>>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be
    >>>>>> witnesses
    >>>>>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
    >>>>>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
    >>>>>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
    >>>>>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
    >>>>>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
    >>>>>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
    >>>>>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
    >>>>>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
    >>>>>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
    >>>>>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
    >>>>>> Police.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
    >>>>>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
    >>>>>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
    >>>>>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
    >>>>>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
    >>>>>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et
    >>>>>> al,
    >>>>>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
    >>>>>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
    >>>>>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator
    >>>>>> of
    >>>>>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
    >>>>>> is no order as to costs.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> “B. Richard Bell”
    >>>>>> Judge
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
    >>>>>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
    >>>>>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
    >>>>>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
    >>>>>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
    >>>>>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
    >>>>>> most
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
    >>>>>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
    >>>>>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
    >>>>>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
    >>>>>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
    >>>>>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
    >>>>>> dudes are way past too late
    >>>>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre
    >>>>>> à
    >>>>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
    >>>>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
    >>>>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
    >>>>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thank you,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Merci ,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more
    >>>>>> war
    >>>>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
    >>>>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
    >>>>>> five years after he began his bragging:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> January 13, 2015
    >>>>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> December 8, 2014
    >>>>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
    >>>>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
    >>>>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
    >>>>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
    >>>>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
    >>>>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary
    >>>>>> to
    >>>>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
    >>>>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
    >>>>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the
    >>>>>> dearth
    >>>>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
    >>>>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
    >>>>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
    >>>>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
    >>>>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
    >>>>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
    >>>>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
    >>>>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
    >>>>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
    >>>>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
    >>>>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
    >>>>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
    >>>>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
    >>>>>> campaign of 2006.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
    >>>>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
    >>>>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
    >>>>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and
    >>>>>> babbling
    >>>>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
    >>>>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
    >>>>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
    >>>>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
    >>>>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
    >>>>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
    >>>>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
    >>>>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
    >>>>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
    >>>>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
    >>>>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
    >>>>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
    >>>>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
    >>>>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and
    >>>>>> control,
    >>>>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
    >>>>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
    >>>>>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
    >>>>>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
    >>>>>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Subject:
    >>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
    >>>>>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
    >>>>>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> January 30, 2007
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Mr. David Amos
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Dear Mr. Amos:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December
    >>>>>> 29,
    >>>>>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
    >>>>>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner
    >>>>>> Steve
    >>>>>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Sincerely,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
    >>>>>> Minister of Health
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> CM/cb
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
    >>>>>> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
    >>>>>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
    >>>>>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
    >>>>>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
    >>>>>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
    >>>>>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
    >>>>>> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
    >>>>>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
    >>>>>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Dear Mr. Amos,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
    >>>>>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
    >>>>>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our
    >>>>>> position
    >>>>>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
    >>>>>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
    >>>>>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
    >>>>>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
    >>>>>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
    >>>>>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
    >>>>>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
    >>>>>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
    >>>>>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
    >>>>>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>  Sincerely,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
    >>>>>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
    >>>>>> Traffic Services NCO
    >>>>>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
    >>>>>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
    >>>>>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
    >>>>>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
    >>>>>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
    >>>>>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
    >>>>>> tel.: 506-457-7890
    >>>>>> fax: 506-444-5224
    >>>>>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>
    >
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

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    The polls say Trudeau The Younger perched in Humpty Dumpty's seat won't fall while making many a faux pas so why not drop the writ to try for a majority again?

    Harper's gamble paid off in 2011 N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

    Trudeau announces plan to purchase 76 million doses of Canadian-made COVID-19 vaccine

    PM says rapid tests are being deployed to the provinces today

     

    John Paul Tasker· CBC News· Posted: Oct 23, 2020 12:04 PM ET

     


    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau leaves after a press conference on the COVID-19 pandemic in Ottawa. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau today announced another contract to buy a promising COVID-19 vaccine now in development — part of a plan to secure millions of vaccine doses to inoculate Canadians from the novel coronavirus.

    Trudeau said the government has signed a contract to procure 76 million doses from the Quebec City-biotech company Medicago.

    Medicago is developing the vaccine in partnership with the British drug company GlaxoSmithKline. The two companies have said its pre-clinical results show the vaccine demonstrated a "high level of neutralizing antibodies following a single dose."

    If the vaccine also performs well in a clinical setting, the companies are on track to make it available in the first half of 2021. Medicago has said it has the manufacturing capacity to produce as many as 100 million doses in 2021.

    The federal government is spending $173 million to help Medicago develop the vaccine and build a large plant in Quebec to produce it. Trudeau also announced an $18.2 million investment in Vancouver-based Precision NanoSystems, which offers technology to produce vaccines and therapeutic drugs.

    Canada already has signed six other contracts for tens of millions more vaccine doses with other pharmaceutical giants, such as AstraZeneca, Moderna and Pfizer. All told, the federal government has secured 358 million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine — an insurance policy if some of the vaccines in development prove to be ineffective in clinical trials.

    "We are coming at this from every angle," Trudeau said.

     

    Item Quantities ordered Quantities received %
    Hand sanitizer (litres)20,646,00020,646,000
    100
    Cloth masks9,000,0007,928,071
    88
    Face shields60,313,00050,132,310
    83
    Surgical masks395,991,150309,902,900
    78
    Gowns132,591,440102,490,773
    77
    N95 respirators153,170,22065,695,116
    43
    Gloves (pairs)1,178,700,578505,036,295
    43
    Face coverings72,345,78420,690,600
    29
    Ventilators40,5473,600
    9


    This massive procurement effort is aimed at ensuring there will be enough vaccine doses on hand for all Canadians who want them, although a timeline for delivery is not yet certain. No COVID-19 vaccine has been approved for use in the western world.

    When asked for a more precise timeline on when the vaccines will be available in Canada, Trudeau said there's still much more work to do to ensure a vaccine candidate is safe to use.

    Trudeau said he's hopeful that vaccines can be deployed in the early part of 2021. He said that, to start, front line health care workers and vulnerable populations, such as seniors living in long-term care homes, will have priority access.

    "Nothing will be distributed in Canada until Health Canada is absolutely certain that the safety of Canadians is being properly covered and taken care of," Trudeau said.

    "We were hoping that the vaccines would arrive yesterday, but they won't. There's still more months of work to do. We all want to get this crisis behind us as quickly as possible. We're working on a vaccine safely, responsibly and quickly."

    The U.S. is positioned to receive some of the American-made vaccines first, because taxpayers there helped to fund most of the front-end costs of developing those drugs through the Trump administration's Operation Warp Speed.

    WATCH: Trudeau is asked about vaccine availability

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke with reporters during the bi-weekly pandemic briefing in Ottawa on Friday. 2:42

    The announcement of the Medicago purchase comes on the same day the government detailed its planned spending for the remainder of the 2020-21 fiscal year through the supplementary estimates tabled in Parliament.

    The Public Health Agency of Canada is to receive an additional $5.4 billion to fund further medical research and to help develop and purchase more vaccines and COVID-19-related treatments for the Canadian market as the global scramble for such drugs continues apace.

    Trudeau also detailed the government's plan to deploy rapid tests throughout the country — devices that health experts say could lessen the burden on lab-based testing in this country as cases continue to climb.

    Trudeau said trucks full of Abbott Laboratories' Panbio COVID-19 Rapid Test devices are out today distributing tens of thousands of tests to the provinces and territories. Another Abbott product, the ID NOW, arrived in Ontario yesterday, Trudeau said.

    Trudeau said it will now be up to provinces to determine how to use these tests as part of a larger testing strategy.

    "Access to rapid tests will vary across the country depending on the province in question. Rapid tests have advantages but also disadvantages, and need to be part of a whole strategy of testing and tracing," Trudeau said, adding that the federal government's function is to simply buy and distribute them to the jurisdictions charged with administering health care.

    Health experts and the opposition Conservatives have said Health Canada's regulatory process has been too slow to this point. Other Western nations have had such tests in the field for months.

    The vast majority of tests to date have been done at public health clinics, with samples being sent to laboratories for analysis — a process that can take days.

    The Panbio, which can produce results in less than 30 minutes, is designed to give "preliminary test results." According to Abbott, a negative result "doesn't preclude SARS-CoV-2 infection." 

    The company warns that such a test "cannot be used as the sole basis for treatment or other management decisions."

    While much faster, these tests are considered to be less accurate than the "gold standard"— the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing process currently in use in much of Canada.

    If administered properly, PCR tests are highly accurate, identifying positive cases nearly 100 per cent of the time.

    Antigen tests are also considered highly accurate but they are not as sensitive as molecular PCR tests run through a lab.

    Ontario Premier Doug Ford and other provincial leaders have encouraged Health Canada regulators to quickly approve such devices so tests can be deployed to airports, high-risk workplaces, long-term care homes and schools, among other settings.

    Health Canada has so far approved four point-of-care molecular testing devices and two antigen tests, which detect the presence of viral proteins in biological samples. These tests are destined for health care settings such as doctors' offices, pharmacies and walk-in clinics.

    Preliminary results from a clinical study conducted by Abbott on 241 samples found that the Panbio test has a sensitivity rate of 93.3 per cent in people suspected of having been exposed to COVID-19 and those who have experienced symptoms over the previous seven days.

    (A test with 93.3 per cent sensitivity will correctly return a positive result for 93.3 per cent of people who have the disease but will return a negative result — a false-negative — for 6.7 per cent of the people who have the disease and should test positive.)

    About the Author

    John Paul Tasker

    Parliamentary Bureau

    John Paul (J.P.) Tasker is a reporter in the CBC's Parliamentary bureau in Ottawa. He can be reached at john.tasker@cbc.ca.

     
     
     
      
     
     
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    David Amos
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    Methinks the writ will be dropped soon N'esy Pas? 


     
     

     
     
    David Amos
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    Methinks a old Maritimer from Fundy Royal who has ran as an INDEPENDENT in 7 elections thus far does not need many little gray cells to understand why spin doctors of all stripes would try to inspire doubt about simple truths which are easily verified with a few clicks of a mouse N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Paul Butler
    Another Liberal government giving a contract to a Quebec firm!What did Gomer Pyle say?.....SURPRISE,SURPRISE,SURPRISE.
     
     
    David Amos
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    Reply to @Paul Butler: Methinks you have been reading my words N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Paul Butler
    Reply to @David Amos: I some how doubt that
     
     
    Paul Butler
    Reply to @David Amos: I should have said somehow,not some how.Either way.....no.
     
     
    David Amos
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    Reply to @Paul Butler: I definitely don't doubt it. Earlier today you stated as follows:

    "Reply to @David Amos: You don't know me.....but I know you".
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Methinks the writ will be dropped soon N'esy Pas?
     
     
    John McTaggart
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos:
    N'esy Pas
    What does that mean?
    It is not French or English or any other language as far as I know!
     
     
    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @John McTaggart: Chiac
     
     
    John McTaggart
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Methinks that is faible.
     
     
    David Amos
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    Reply to @John McTaggart: Why would a spin doctor doubt the simple truth which is easily verified? Methinks it could it be because everybody knows that I ran against his beloved political party as an INDEPENDENT 7 times thus far in a place where many people speak Chiac N'esy Pas? 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    John Howard
    After reading lots of the comments I figure 80% of you are nuts and the rest are just talking for no reason, and little knowledge to boot.

    I just want to have fun...

     
    David Amos
    Reply to @John Howard: Me too since nobody is permitted to read why I post

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    David Amos
    Methinks even though Trudeau The Younger has been in Humpty Dumpty's seat for 1 very long year and made many a faux pas, the polls tell his puppet masters that he won't fall. Hence why not drop the writ before the news gets any worse? However he is clearly very busy promising more money to be spent on the COVID-19 nonsense while ignoring his government's inquiry about creating detention centres for folks who wont follow his orders in the future.

    its blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention that our dubious PM who does not wish to account for his doings with "WE" wants the opposition to be blamed for causing an election that they don't want. Nobody can deny that in tumultuous 40th Parliament Harper's minority government defied demands for documents pertaining Afghanistan and his opposition played into his hand and found him in contempt of Parliament. However harper's gamble paid off in spades when the electorate sent him back to the Hill with a majority mandate for reasons I will never understand. I know Iggy was a rather appalling dude to be the leader of what he claimed was "Canada's Natural Governing Party" . however in my humble opinion Harper and his party took the cake in that regard. Clearly many Canadians had enough of Harper et al in 2015. To sooth my own soul after not running for public office for nearly 10 years I stress tested them all as best I could 3 more times while litigating against the Queen in Federal Court but to no avail. I learned the hard way that the sheople whom Trudeau The Younger calls "peoplekind" always get the governments they deserve.
     
     
    David Amos
    I have decided to just continue to try to find some fun poking holes in stuffed shirts and to seek a myth called justice by standing before politically appointed crooks hopefully 3 more times. If only to secure a public record should any of my seed wish to review someday and check my work. In the "mean' time I have no doubt Trudeau The Younger is about to drop the writ and make his loyal sheople happy voting for him into a majority mandate again. However everybody knows there will be no more sunny ways coming from the PMO in short order once the Yankee election is history and the worldwide economy takes the very predictable nosedive because of the damage already done by WHO and its cohorts with the malicious COVID 19 nonsense N'esy Pas?

    Veritas Vincit
    David Raymond Amos
     
     
    Gerald Celente
    Reply to @David Amos: So to make an interesting and articulate how ever lengthy story short - We the people always get the government we deserve and truth prevails. Agreed.
     
     
    Dan Brammer
    Reply to @David Amos: covid 19 nonsense? Clearly you are a trump supporter or completely ignorant of the actual science.
     
     
    David Amos
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    Reply to @Dan Brammer: Methinks you should check my work before you embarrass yourself further N'esy Pas?
     
     
    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Gerald Celente: Methinks it would not be wise for me to agree within a self professed anarchist N'esy Pas?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Dan Brammer: Methinks you did not read this in the news yet the opposition won't mention what is published on the government's website N'esy Pas?

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    John McTaggart
    Reply to @David Amos:
    why the insult? 

     
     
    Jim Peterson
    Reply to @Dan Brammer: Actually you are. How about 2 people in the 0-19 age bracket dying in Canada from Covid whereas last year at this time 20+ died from the flu 0-19. That science? How about most cases now are asymptomatic and the people still typically dying are those who would be dying from a cold and/or flu because they are terminal? You like that science? I know parrots like to cite the one or two outliers, never realizing that these outliers in the < 50 age group with seemingly good health are also present in flu deaths yearly too. 
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Jim Peterson: Well put
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    John Thompson
    Vaccine, not even complete stage 1 trial so hasn't even been shown to generate an immune response in people. McGill University experts say a rollout before fall 2021 is unlikely

    https://www.rcinet.ca/en/2020/10/01/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-unlikely-before-fall-2021-experts-say/

    Yet we can claim this is promising despite not even having been shown to produce antibodies in humans yet and we are hopeful for early 2021. Glad to see that JT knows more than the McGill researchers. Where is the science behind those statements I wonder?
     
     
    Jim Peterson
    Reply to @John Thompson: Another expected twist to the plot to keep the provaxxers nervous and praying for salvation so that when it's finally introduced they're the quickest out of the gates.
     
     
    Jim Peterson
    Reply to @John Thompson: He doesn't need science when he has script writers. They just tell him what to say, then the other paid experts and the faux tug of war keeps you all busy wondering who is sleeping with who.
     
     
    Eddie Tamara
    Reply to @John Thompson:" a person who volunteered for the medical experimentation on humans with the COVID-19 vaccine has died during clinical trials, reports The Epoch Times. The death was confirmed by government officials in Brazil, where the trial was taking place, and the company whose vaccine is being tested in the medical experiments — AstraZeneca — says it will continue its experiments on the remaining human survivors"
     
     
    Dan Brammer
    Reply to @Eddie Tamara: please read before you spew nonsense like this. Those stories are fake. Just google it to see for yourself and please research just a little before believing garbage like that.
     
     
    Jim Peterson
    Reply to @Dan Brammer: You believe in fake news Dan. Confirmation bias in full effect. If it's not from CBC, CNN or can't be found on Google because it was scrubbed, then it's not real, correct?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Jim Peterson
    So is anyone asking why a "Vaccine" has to be paid for twice? Has everyone forgotten the t $800 million JT gave to the WHO to hand over to it's boss who gave it to 8 pharmaceutical companies that he owns shares in to develop a "vaccine". Now we're giving them money again? Really? Will we do it a third time? and to GSK/Google to boot, while a Quebec company is fronting it (middle man) just so the masses can be con'd, again, into believing Canada dun something good?

    WOW

    Astonishing. 

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Jim MacInnis
    Time is the Liberal enemy. Trudeau's armour is starting to crack. With time, we'll see the full truth behind his party's fiscal ineptitude, the WE Scandal and lack of leadership. There will be a new government by summer 2021. Whether it's a Liberal government is up to them. If they push Trudeau out, they might make good during an election.
     
     
    jay lett
    Reply to @Jim MacInnis: lets not forget, trudeau accomplished what canada asked him to do, day one in office. Now that "anyone but harper" is in power, its time to choose a real leader... if we can find one...
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @jay lett: Good luck with that
     
     
    Doug Lake
    Reply to @Jim MacInnis: Trudeau gotta go. Canada needs to wake up.
     
     
    jimmy vee 
    Reply to @Jim MacInnis: I'd love to go the election, true in my riding he will lose but its been that way for 20 years. Thing is too many Conservative are set in their ways and it would seem engagement is no longer possible they just do and say the same thing over and over and over again.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Art Mack
    How much of that money is going into the pockets of Trudeau supporters and friends?
     
     
    John McTaggart
    Reply to @Art Mack:
    NONE!
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @John McTaggart: Surely you jest
     
     
    John McTaggart
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Seems to me that cons lack little gray cells!
     
     
    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @John McTaggart: Who is insulting who?
     
     
    Doug Lake
    Reply to @Art Mack: Media got their cut already I can tell.
     
     
    John McTaggart
    Reply to @Doug Lake:
    You couldn't possibly!
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Anne Bérubé
    Read carefully what our pretty boy is saying 'he is planning' to buy that many doses!!! Is it another political gimmick? Only God knows, or does he.
     
     
    Dan Brammer
    Reply to @Anne Bérubé: so he should not "plan to buy" he should just buy whether it works or not? He is securing our place in line AND protecting us in case the vaccine doesn't work. Seems smart to me.
     
     
    John McTaggart
    Reply to @Anne Bérubé:
    \/
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Anne Bérubé: Survey Says?
     
     
    Doug Lake
    Reply to @Anne Bérubé: Can’t trust Trudeau ever.
     
     
    jimmy vee
    Reply to @Doug Lake: anti-vaxxer?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Douglas Fowler
    Baloney! Canada has now signed 4 contracts for vaccines supposedly to give us priority on a billion doses!!!!???? 130 other countries have done the same with 3 of those companies! Liberals are virtue signaling, again.
     
     
    Dan Brammer
    Reply to @Douglas Fowler: it is about when we get the vaccines. Countries who have a working vaccine available, can open everything back up.
     
     
    John McTaggart
    Reply to @Douglas Fowler:
    In reality, the PM is attempting to ensure that all Canadians will get vaccine as soon as a viable one is available.
    It is a solid move on his part.
    Since there is so little knowledge available on the virus the first vaccine may not be as good as subsequent ones
    Budgeting enough vaccine to provide at least 2 shots to Canadians is sound as well, as there is as yet no information, that I am aware of, on how many doses may be required.
    As unlikely as you might think, the government will not be purchasing a billion doses!
    The multiple comments exaggerating how much will be spent on excessive amounts of vaccine truly serve no useful purpose at all.
     
     
    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Douglas Fowler: Methinks many folks would agree that the term "baloney" is a polite but necessary understatement Nesy Pas?
     
     
    Jim Peterson 
    Reply to @Dan Brammer: Hook, line and sinker.
     
     
    Jim Peterson 
    Reply to @Douglas Fowler: I see we're all still playing the when will it be available game? Available long ago, waiting for everyone to beg for it. Looks like it's working too.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Johnny Mookergee
    What wonderful news ,Thank God for the CBC and for this wonderful news , so what’s the big deal the Canadian Taxpayers spend $2 Billion a year on the Money Bleeding CBC and give people Like Wendy Wesley $1 Million a year To read their Socialist version of the news
     
     
    Dan Brammer
    Reply to @Johnny Mookergee: 2 billion a year to protect the Canadian media. I would look for cost savings, but it is a worthwhile investment.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Dan Brammer: Yea Right
     
     
    Doug Lake
    Reply to @Johnny Mookergee: I Agree!
     
     
    Jim Peterson 
    Reply to @Dan Brammer: LOL. Media? Should be independent of government. I bet you want to know why?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    David Amos 
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    Methinks even though Trudeau The Younger has been in Humpty Dumpty's seat for 1 very long year and made many a faux pas, the polls tell his puppet masters that he won't fall. Hence why not drop the writ before the news gets any worse? However he is clearly very busy promising more money to be spent on the COVID-19 nonsense while ignoring his government's inquiry about creating detention centres for folks who wont follow his orders in the future.

    its blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention that our dubious PM who does not wish to account for his doings with "WE" wants the opposition to be blamed for causing an election that they don't want. Nobody can deny that in tumultuous 40th Parliament Harper's minority government defied demands for documents pertaining Afghanistan and his opposition played into his hand and found him in contempt of Parliament. However harper's gamble paid off in spades when the electorate sent him back to the Hill with a majority mandate for reasons I will never understand. I know Iggy was a rather appalling dude to be the leader of what he claimed was "Canada's Natural Governing Party" . however in my humble opinion Harper and his party took the cake in that regard. Clearly many Canadians had enough of Harper et al in 2015. To sooth my own soul after not running for public office for nearly 10 years I stress tested them all as best I could 3 more times while litigating against the Queen in Federal Court but to no avail. I learned the hard way that the sheople whom Trudeau The Younger calls "peoplekind" always get the governments they deserve.
     
     
    David Amos
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    Reply to @David Amos:
    I have decided to just continue to try to find some fun poking holes in stuffed shirts and to seek a myth called justice by standing before politically appointed crooks hopefully 3 more times. If only to secure a public record should any of my seed wish to review someday and check my work. In the "mean' time I have no doubt Trudeau The Younger is about to drop the writ and make his loyal sheople happy voting for him into a majority mandate again. However everybody knows there will be no more sunny ways coming from the PMO in short order once the Yankee election is history and the worldwide economy takes the very predictable nosedive because of the damage already done by WHO and its cohorts with the malicious COVID 19 nonsense N'esy Pas?

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    David Raymond Amos
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    David Amos
    Methinks you did not read this in the news yet the opposition won't mention what is published on the government's website N'esy Pas?

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    Lou Bell
    Well I guess at least we didn't msee the name Bombardier or SNC or Pomerleau so at least there's a minimal chance this is on the up and up . Slight , but there is a chance !
     
     
    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you missed the fact that even though Trudeau The Younger has been in Humpty Dumpty's seat for very long 5 years and made many a faux pas, the polls tell his puppet masters that he won't fall. Hence why not drop the writ before the news gets any worse? However he is clearly very busy promising more money to be spent on the COVID-19 nonsense while ignoring his government's inquiry about creating detention centres for folks who wont follow his orders in the future.

    its blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention that our dubious PM who does not wish to account for his doings with "WE" wants the opposition to be blamed for causing an election that they don't want. Nobody can deny that in tumultuous 40th Parliament Harper's minority government defied demands for documents pertaining Afghanistan and his opposition played into his hand and found him in contempt of Parliament. However harper's gamble paid off in spades when the electorate sent him back to the Hill with a majority mandate for reasons I will never understand. I know Iggy was a rather appalling dude to be the leader of what he claimed was "Canada's Natural Governing Party" . however in my humble opinion Harper and his party took the cake in that regard. Clearly many Canadians had enough of Harper et al in 2015. To sooth my own soul after not running for public office for nearly 10 years I stress tested them all as best I could 3 more times while litigating against the Queen in Federal Court but to no avail. I learned the hard way that the sheople whom Trudeau The Younger calls "peoplekind" always get the governments they deserve.
     
     
    David Amos
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    As you well know little Lou I had decided to just continue to try to find some fun poking holes in stuffed shirts and to seek a myth called justice by standing before politically appointed crooks hopefully 3 more times. If only to secure a public record should any of my seed wish to review someday and check my work. In the "mean' time I have no doubt Trudeau The Younger is about to drop the writ and make his loyal sheople happy voting for him into a majority mandate again. However everybody knows there will be no more sunny ways coming from the PMO in short order once the Yankee election is history and the worldwide economy takes the very predictable nosedive because of the damage already done by WHO and its cohorts with the malicious COVID 19 nonsense

    However your constant attacks on my reputation and teasing me about running for public office I am considering running in the next election in your neighborhood again. Methinks hat should rot your fancy blue socks and put quite a knot in your nasty knickers as well Better start baking a lot more butter tarts for your buddies N'esy Pas?

    Veritas Vincit
    David Raymond Amos
     
     
    David Amos
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: Too Too Funny
     
     
    Tim Dobranski:
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Wait for it......
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Tim Dobranski: Been here and gone 
     
     
    Gerald Celente 
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Wow, look at you making anti government slurs. Now that takes some getting used to.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Methinks my old Harley and the Yankee cop tapes in its saddlebag that the Fat Fred City Finest stole from me years ago is gonna cost the taxpayers of Fat Fred City bigtime soemday N''esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

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    Fredericton facing $3.1M shortfall in next year's budget

    City councillors don't want to see a tax increase

     

    Lauren Bird· CBC News· Posted: Oct 27, 2020 8:00 AM AT

     


    Some Fredericton city councillors are hoping to avoid a tax increase to meet the $3.1 million in shortfall in the city's budget. (City of Fredericton)

    The city of Fredericton is grappling with how to make up an expected $3.1 million shortfall in next year's budget.

    City staff attributed $2 million to revenue losses during the pandemic and $1.1 million to rising costs. 

    "It's a very large shortfall," said Coun. Greg Ericson, the chair of the city's finance and administration committee. "It's going to require some extraordinary budget decisions that we don't normally face in a budget."

    Council heard loose options from staff at Monday night's budget meeting, which could include raising the tax rate, cutting capital projects or services, or a combination of all three. 

    A tax rate increase of four cents would make up the shortfall but most councillors said they were against a rise that high. 

    "I cannot support, in good conscience, a tax increase," said Coun. Kate Rogers. 

    "I'm not comfortable going to the public, because they too are struggling."

    Coun. Dan Keenan also said he was against raising the tax rate. He said the cuts should come from elsewhere.

    "We could reduce services temporarily or we could reduce our capital program temporarily." 

    Staff will come back to council with ideas on how to make up the shortfall at next week's budget meeting.

    "We're going to look deeply into our capital budgets and our capital project priorities in order to determine ways to minimize and reduce this potential deficit down to zero without actually having to raise the burden on the community in undue ways," Ericson said.

     

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    92 Comments

     
     
     
     
    David Amos
    Surprise Surprise Surprise
     
     
    David Amos
    Methinks my old Harley and the Yankee cop tapes in its saddlebag that the Fat Fred City Finest stole from me years ago is gonna cost the taxpayers of Fat Fred City an interesting chunk of change too or my name ain't "Just Dave" N''esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Murray Brown
    That $2 million skateboard park and eyesore behind the Carleton Street Armory isn't looking so good now, since it's likely part of this $3 million dollar 'shortfall'. There must be like two hundred skateboarders in the city dude, so that works out to $10,000 per skateboarder... Maybe O'Brien can charge skateboarders licensing fees for their park... Like $10,000 per license dude.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Murray Brown: Methinks the folks in Fat Fred City know you are joking because everybody knows whose kids they built that park for N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Unfortunately many Government workers at all 3 levels in the province view sick leave and disablilty as paid vacation days that they're entitled to ! The private sector has much tighter reins on this " self entitled phenomenon " !
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Lou DumBell: Bitterness will get you no-where. I know a lot of government worker who never take all of their 15 sick leaves a year.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Yea Right
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @David Amos: Don't start something you cant finish Davis.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: I don't know a dude named Davis but certainly know who you are
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @David Amos: Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin this time ?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Would you like me to name your family members just as mine are often named???
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Really surprised none of these councillors have suggested look to outside communities for money . That's the new template they all like to follow . " If at 1st you don't succeed , go after others for your shortcomings " !
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if the folks up on the Hanwell bake enough butter tarts they will have no worries about the greedy snobs in Fat Fred City taxing them N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Billy Buckner
    I would be interested to know what revenue was lost. Do municipalities not receive their biggest chunk of change from property taxes? It would be nice to see a project in the city actually get completed on time, does every city have most projects run weeks over most of the time? And rising costs, what costs were those? Were those salaries? Don't we pay city workers better than most anyone in Atlantic Canada, maybe I am wrong. This city has been poorly run for years, why should things stop now.
     
     
    Winston Gray
    Reply to @Billy Buckner: so you went from assuming Fredericton has a unique construction problem that no other city has (honestly how do you not realize that’s how all construction projects go?), to assuming they raised their own salaries...

    Not helpful, at all. Just trying to find a simple answer that you can understand, rather than listening to what the council ACTUALLY had to say.
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Billy Buckner: Actually I believe wages for Frederictons employees are less than both Saint John and Moncton . They're still too high but not the highest . Moncton pays their garbage collectore just short of 80,000 dollars ! And they have a disability problem with many of them !
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Lou DumBell: Garbage collectors don't make $80 000 a year lol.
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Winston Gray: I did not say anyone raised their own salaries, I wondered if part of our cost problem is bloated salaries, but I was not sure where we are compared to other cities, which is why I said I might be wrong on that. As for construction projects, again, I can't comment on other cities, and unless you are in the industry, you can't either. But if they always go over you would think someone by now would realize that and clue up when estimating finish times. I certainly know the big cities do not tolerate this, they actually have them working weekends and evenings when things fall behind, imagine that. 
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: I know some Yankee ones who make a great deal more than that
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @David Amos: You know a garbage collector that makes more then $ 80 000 ? Maybe in your dreams ?
     
     
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Marc Martin: I know of more than just one Methinks anyone can check the wages in Ontario or ask the strange dude whole bought the jail in my old hometown N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Davis Amos: We are not talking about Ontario here...Pay attention.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Who is WE? I know I am
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Les Cooper
    Get rid of the union and hire from private sector. You will get more work out of them and less sick time. And you can get rid of the dead weight!
     
     
    Winston Gray
    Reply to @Les Cooper: just what workers need, less rights and less pay and less benefits! Who is your employer so I can call them and ask them to do the same to you?
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Les Cooper: Yeah hire from the private sector who will charge more and pay less the employees, makes sense....
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: So you say
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @David Santa Amos: So says facts.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: bs
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @David Santa Amos: Your on BS ? Surprise surprise !!
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks I should sue you N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Davis Amos: I am scared...
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you should be scared of irrefutable facts after all the libel you have willingly published in the past N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Duncan Lombard
    Very recently Greg Ericson was saying how well the city was doing financially.
    How did the wheels fall off overnight....!!!!!!!!
     
     
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Duncan Lombard:
    Hold the phone Duncan.
    The 2020 budget was for $124.4 million.
    Cost of living increases, what, 2.5% yearly?
    $124.4 million X 2.5% = $3.11 million
    Not exactly "the wheels falling off" is it?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks it ain't rocket science N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    How do you manufacture a news story out of nothing?
     
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I don't everybody knows that I ran in Fat Fred City in the Election of the 39th Parliament in 2005 many years after I went to High School and UNB there in the sixties and early seventies
     
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @David Amos: Who cares.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks its blatantly obvious that YOU and Little Lou do N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Davis Amos: Not really..cry me a river..
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks fairly obvious to anyone it is you who has been crying bigtime today N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Emery Hyslop-Margison
    How about a percentage reduction across the board to all municipal employees including supervisors, mayor and council? I’ve been preaching for years the current municipal structure in NB is unsustainable. Just one more example. You can’t keep going to the public well when the public well is dry.
     
     
    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: You can't give someone a reverse raise. They'd have to do something like what their doing in Alberta - terminate the positions and look to the private sector to recreate them at whatever actual market value is.

    I'm not saying this should be done necessarily and I'm not looking to eliminate all government jobs but the union people especially need to understand where the non-union people are coming. We LITERALLY CAN'T AFFORD to care about your stupid mandatory index raises. 
     
     
    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Images of nurses doing tiktok dance routines in empty hospitals all over the world are immediately coming to mind for some reason.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks many are having the same thought these days N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Andrew Clarkson
    And again...… As the house of cards continues to collapse!
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Andrew Clarkson: Welcome back to the on going circus in Fat Fred City
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Larry Dickinson
    Perhaps stop wasting money on dumb projects like a skateboard park near the river which will flood in the spring making swimming pools. Or Officers Square where a skating "oval" sure isn't historic in any stretch of the imagination. How about fixing the potholes or curbs, then painting the lines on the street, not the other way around. Public works can't seem to schedule work very well. And why not downsize the big city busses which run empty most of the time. Get smaller ones, more of them, and run a bus service where it doesn't take two hours and a tour of the city to get from north to south.
     
     
    Steve Gordon
    Reply to @Larry Dickinson: You hit the nail squarely on the head. How many thousands are being waster to prepare, buy and install the piece of art they are putting in the middle of the new victoria circle?
     
     
    Steve Gordon
    Reply to @Steve Gordon: *wasted*
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Larry Dickinson: Although i agree with you on the spending the skate park will not be flooded, it has been built really high.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Larry Dickinson: Well put but trust that Mayor Mikey and his cohorts don't care
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Alex Butt
    If the city of Fredericton ever learns that it is not a real city like Toronto, Edmonton or Vancouver and realises this that would be a huge start. They waste so much money on frivolous and unnecessary things like the convention centre that sits empty almost all the time, play house, art gallery upgrades, building traffic circles like they are going out of style and the list goes on and on. There is not a huge population here, and not many jobs other than government etc. and thus not the tax base that they continue to tax until people can not afford to exists. It is a vicious circle that is just getting worse and worse every year! 
     
     
    David Amos
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    Reply to @Alex Butt: Methinks many rural folks would agree that the snobs who inhabit Fat Fred City get the governments they deserve N'esy Pas?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @David Amos: BINGO
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Simple answer, if cities are starving for cash that is a result of people residing outside of the boundary of the city and this results in many people commuting to the city to take advantage of the amenities or services offered in the city. Then put up toll roads on the entrance of the city. All non city residents pay a toll of a few dollars per person per trip to the city.
    That would more than address the shortfall and the potential free ride the non city dwellers get by residing outside the city but using the city services or amenities. 
     
     
    Ronald Parker
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: No.
     
     
    Addie lingley
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: I would boycott the city then, and open my own store, the people coming into the city KEEP the city going by shopping ect, we pay enough now for EVERYTHING, and look at the mess we are in.
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Reply to @Addie lingley: So you believe it is ok to live outside the city, but yet use the facilities on a regular basis that the city has to pay for that are paid by property taxes and pay nothing for the access and use of the services?
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Reply to @Ronald Parker: Yes
     
     
    Ronald Parker
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Do you know that a portion of gas tax goes to the cities to help pay for rinks , ball fields ect and rural people buy lots of gas? Where do you think people are coming from to fill jobs in the city?
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Reply to @Ronald Parker: That is not the point the gas tax is nominal. There are costs supporting the infrastructure that is used that is paid by the city. It is only fair that people pay. Not a full property tax but some nominal amount that addresses the usage. The problem with the current arrangement is that the cities will not be able to maintain the services, they essentially wither and die and then the services, the jobs, the amenities are no longer there. Consumption taxes are the fairest way to address this.
     
     
    Emery Hyslop-Margison
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: This is the truth that no one in this province wants to face. It’s time to merge outlying communities with urban areas.
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: I would agree something needs to be done that provides the urban areas with sufficient and predictable revenue to support these services. Right now the current system has more holes that Swiss cheese.The province needs to address this sooner rather than later
     
     
    Ronald Parker
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Then instead of talking about here, write your letter to the people that can change it.
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Reply to @Ronald Parker: It is being discussed as per the article here last week. So changes are coming, what and when is unknown. The reality is this is just a board for opinions. Nothing more nothing less.
     
     
    Ronald Parker
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: You know what they say about opinions.
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Reply to @Ronald Parker: Why then are you bothering?
     
     
    Ronald Parker
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Because I can, you?
     
     
    Ronald Parker
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: I think there are lots of ways to address this problem instead putting a toll for rural areas, some have been mentioned here already.
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Reply to @Ronald Parker: Toll roads are simply an example of one of many ways that it could be accomplished. Not stuck on toll roads as the only option.
     
     
    Ronald Parker
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Good, have a great day.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Ronald Parker: Methinks a lot of rural folks would like your style if they bothered to read these forums N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Matt Steele
    Pretty much standard operating procedure for politicians at all levels of govt. . Instead of managing with what they have , and adjusting their spending , they always want more taxes . Apparently politicians think that taxpayers are bottomless pits of easy money . Wait until Trudeau starts piling on the taxes to pay for all his mismanagement , and you will really see taxes soar .
     
     
    Toby Tolly
    Reply to @Matt Steele: do you....Talk Music & Mental Health on CBC
     
     
    David Peters
    Reply to @Matt Steele:
    Don't forget, inflation is also a tax.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Toby Tolly: Trust that he won't answer that question
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Toby Tolly
    and no one paying their water bills
    guess its the first step to defunding the tax wasters
    buy more art for the roundabouts plz
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Toby Tolly: Well put
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    David Peters
    The fox guarding the hen-house analogy seems to be applicable here. The foxes are saying they need more hens, because they have no idea what happened to all the ones who have disappeared.

    How long are Canadians going to put up with this madness?
     
     
    Emery Hyslop-Margison
    Reply to @David Peters: I think we’re bled dry?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @David Peters: Methinks on or about the 12th of Never the fat dumb and happy sheople may sit up and pay attention N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Terry Tibbs
    Why are you writing articles like this? There is not enough information contained here to form an opinion. To a city with a total budget of $10 million $3.1 million is a BIG deal. To Fat Fred City, with a total 2020 budget of $124.4 million, $3.1 million is pretty small potatoes.
    $124.4 million is $10.3 million a month. With 2 months remaining in 2020 you could likely stop supplying toilet paper to executive bathrooms and make up the shortfall. I'm just kidding there, but you catch my thinking.
     
     
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
    Interestingly enough, I just did the math, a $3.1 million increase on a budget of $124.4 million is approximately 2.5%, so how is it mighty strange that a city has to deal with yearly inflation we all have to deal with?
    This isn't even a story.
     
     
    Duncan Lombard
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Excellent calculation Terry.....by your logic, every year the annual budget should only be short 2.5 %....!!!!!
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: The real story is that the city lost most of that money because of parking fees.
     
     
    David Amos 
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks I had the ball long before you chucked it today N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Duncan Lombard:
    If you don't build in inflation it certainly will be short. Governments of all three stripes (municipal/provincial, and federal)budgets all have to grow to match inflation, or someone will be shortchanged, or a deficit will result.
    This is why, contrary to popular belief, none of these governments can afford to stand still, inflation will eat away at their budgets until they can no longer function.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Gerry Ferguson
    should extend the city limits. Everyone wants to live on the Hanwell or Lincoln Rd just outside town to avoid paying taxes to the city they basically live in.
     
     
    Gerald Celente
    Reply to @Gerry Ferguson: I agree eliminate overlap, duplication and redundancy of municipalities. But it won't happen as it is political suicide.
     
    Les Cooper
    Reply to @Gerry Ferguson: maybe cut taxes in Fredericton. I pay more taxes in Fredericton than I did in Edmonton!!! For less 
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Gerald Celente: Methinks "political suicide" is a private mental health issue that is illegal to discuss N'esy Pas?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others
    "The mental health of teachers is in danger."

    Methinks they need to learn to relax and enjoy the that circus we are all paying for very dearly N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

    New Brunswick teachers dealing with stress, higher workload during pandemic

    Minister says teachers should be able to speak on policy, after only 29 teachers answered CBC questionnaire

     

    Karissa Donkin· CBC News· Posted: Oct 28, 2020 5:00 AM AT

     


    CBC Investigates sent out a questionnaire to nearly 1,400 school staff across the province, specifically looking to hear from teachers about their experience teaching during a pandemic. Some teachers said they feel stressed and are dealing with a higher workload. (Photo Illustration/CBC News)

    TEACHERS UNDER STRAIN

    CBC News journalists in Atlantic Canada and Eastern Ontario teamed up to send out questionnaires to thousands of teachers to ask how they're feeling two months into an extraordinary school year.  More than 2,000 teachers replied.  


    Stressful. Scary. An unreasonable workload.

    These are a few of the words that a handful of teachers used to describe their back-to-school experience during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    They paint a picture of some teachers who are struggling with more demands than ever, all while trying to keep students healthy and engaged.

    "The workload is greater than ever and there's not enough time," one teacher wrote in French.

    "The mental health of teachers is in danger."

    The glimpse inside New Brunswick's classrooms comes from a bilingual, anonymous questionnaire sent by CBC's Investigative Unit.

    The invitation to fill out the questionnaire was sent on Oct. 8 to 1,382 publicly-available email addresses that were listed on New Brunswick public school websites. Only 29 teachers completed the questionnaire.

    The goal was to get feedback from teachers who are on the front lines inside classrooms, in order to better understand the experience of educating children during a global pandemic. The questionnaire was sent to a variety of school staff throughout the province, but only teachers were able to complete the questionnaire.

    Opinions contained in the CBC Investigates questionnaire should be treated differently from the results of a public opinion poll or survey. The sample of respondents is not necessarily representative of either the voting public or of all the elementary, middle and high-school teachers in the province.

    Themes from the few who did answer — that teachers are feeling stressed and dealing with a higher workload — mirror what Education Minister Dominic Cardy has been hearing.


    Education Minister Dominic Cardy has heard from teachers who are feeling the effects of stress and a higher workload. Cardy says part of that can be attributed to living, and working, through a pandemic. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

    "Some of the things that you just listed I've heard absolutely from dozens of other teachers in different forms," Cardy said.

    "Part of those are just a function of the fact that we're dealing with a pandemic. This sucks. All of this."

    Teachers' associations, union sent warning about questionnaire

    It's not clear why so few teachers answered the CBC Investigates questionnaire.

    "I could only speculate, but it would certainly speak to the fact that the teacher workload that we've heard about and the sheer massive amount of emails that teachers are receiving," said Rick Cuming, president of the New Brunswick Teachers' Association.

    "They really have been echoing with us that they're feeling swamped and they're feeling overwhelmed and they're feeling anxious."

    The other question is whether teachers felt comfortable answering the questionnaire.

    Shortly after CBC Investigates sent out the questionnaire, the teachers' associations and union sent out an email to educators, saying the questionnaire wasn't sanctioned.


    The teachers' professional associations and the New Brunswick Teachers' Federation sent an email to educators about the CBC Investigates questionnaire, saying it wasn't sanctioned. (CBC)

    "You should always be cautious about requests from the media," the email, which was obtained by CBC News through access to information, says.

    "We would also like to remind you that the official spokespersons for the teachers are the [New Brunswick Teachers' Federation] Co-Presidents."

    Cuming said the note wasn't intended to tell people not to fill out the CBC Investigates questionnaire, but to remind them to respect students' confidentiality and to "be cautious in terms of information they're giving that might paint their employer in a negative light in case it had pushed back on them."

    "I think teachers in this province understand that in New Brunswick, they have lots of structures in place for them to express themselves within the professional organization and directly with their employer," Cuming said.


    If you're a teacher and want to let us know about your experiences teaching in class or from home during COVID, please email us at this address: NBInvestigates@cbc.ca


    Emails from within the Francophone South School District, obtained through access to information, show that one member of the teaching staff emailed others to thank them for not answering the CBC Investigates questionnaire, only a couple hours after the questionnaire invitations were sent. This part of the email was bolded, underlined and written in larger font. The exact recipients of that email were redacted.

    The staff member, whose name is also redacted, is a member of the Association of Francophone Teachers of New Brunswick's executive and was "voicing the union's guideline," Ghislaine Arsenault, a spokesperson for the district, said.

    She said the district didn't send any kind of directive to its staff on whether to answer the questionnaire.

    "We had no reason to interfere in this matter or any intention to do so," Arsenault wrote in an email.

    "We simply indicated that the teachers' union had expressed its position and that the district would not be giving any instructions whether to respond or not to this survey."

    'A duty of loyalty'

    The province's education minister believes teachers should be able to speak out on issues of policy, such as concerns with the province's back-to-school plan.

    Hearing from teachers on the front lines could result in better-informed decisions from policymakers, Cardy said.

    "I think there has been, again, a tradition of trying to discourage teachers from speaking out," the minister said.

    "Which is why since I became minister, I have explicitly gone totally the opposite direction and said you need to speak out."

    When asked if teachers actually can be disciplined for speaking out on issues that concern them, Cuming said teachers "have a duty of loyalty to their employer."


    Rick Cuming, president of the New Brunswick Teachers' Association, says teachers have a 'duty of loyalty' to their employer. (CBC)

    "And just like in any job, if you're saying things that are really negative in terms of people and decisions that they've made, there can be repercussions," Cuming said.

    Cardy was not aware of any teachers who've been disciplined for speaking out against their employer.

    He said he has heard of a couple of cases where teachers "spoke out on broader social issues," sometimes in ways that he "personally found bizarre and objectionable."

    "But I hopped in to offer a defence because we have free speech rights in this country," the minister said.

    Concerns from teachers

    Of the 29 teachers who completed the CBC Investigates questionnaire, 13 teachers answered a question that asked if they had something they wanted to share about teaching during a pandemic.

    One teacher said they felt like teachers don't have a voice, while another said they felt they were being "muzzled."

    "The employer has already notified us by email that some teachers PLANNED to participate in protests or write letters and that by our agreements we cannot criticize or give our opinion about our employer (the ministry of education)," one teacher wrote in French.

    "So even as New Brunswick citizens, we cannot exercise our freedom of opinion."

    Others talked about juggling their teaching responsibilities with enforcing new rules and dealing with technology.


    Some New Brunswick teachers say they are juggling the regular demands of teaching with enforcing new rules and dealing with technology. (Photo illustration/CBC News)

    "The level of demands on teachers right now are unreasonable between sanitization, COVID plans, preparing for online learning, expectations to teach students at home who have compromised immune systems, and no extra time to plan!" one teacher wrote.

    Another said that smaller class sizes was a positive change they hoped would stick around.

    More mental health support for teachers

    The school system has more mental health support available for teachers this year, recognizing that they're dealing with a lot, the minister said.

    Before the pandemic, Cardy heard from teachers who were already feeling exhausted.

    Dumping COVID-19 on top of that has only made it worse, he said, and the school system will have to deal with "long-term consequences" once the pandemic ends.

    "I can't say or do anything to make that better, except say that we are trying our best to make sure that within the framework of properly protecting our school system from COVID-19, that we are very, very cognizant of the weight and the load this is imposing on teachers."

    The teachers' associations have also presented some solutions to reduce the burden on teachers' time, from relaxing deadlines to reducing assessments.

    Cuming said Cardy, along with teachers and department officials, would be meeting this week to talk more about the proposal.

    "It's so important that we try and give teachers the time that they need to adapt their instruction," Cuming said.

    "Really, the biggest resource you can give teachers is time." 

    About the Author

    Karissa Donkin is a journalist in CBC's Atlantic investigative unit. Do you have a story you want us to investigate? Send your tips to NBInvestigates@CBC.ca.

    With files from Roberto Rocha and Joseph Loiero

     

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    253 Comments
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    David Amos
    Content disabled
    Go figure whose side this dude is on

    "Rick Cuming, president of the New Brunswick Teachers' Association, says teachers have a 'duty of loyalty' to their employer
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    David Amos
    "The mental health of teachers is in danger."

    Methinks they need to learn to relax and enjoy the that circus we are all paying for very dearly N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: Sue them !
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Naw but trust that I will take you up on your offer to sue you
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: A boy named " Sue " !
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @David Amos: I'll bring the butter tarts and doughnuts ! Wahoo !!
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Perfect Methinks Cardy your pal Tiny Tim and everybody else in Fat Fred City knows the Keystone Kops who stole my Harley prefer your homemade doughnuts to what Tims offers them for free N"esy Pas?
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @David Amos: **Would you like me to name your family members just as mine are often named???** This is from another thread, but please do name them..Make sure you have the right Marc Martin .....
     
     
    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @David Amos: I was noticing that the onslaught of sl@nder from one Mr. Oliver was approaching sue-worthy status as well, and I was going to do as you just did but I see you stole my line.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks if I were bring your family into this circus then I would be no better that your many sick friends. However i do wonder if they are proud of what you say like your Mayor buddy up north no doubt is N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Davis Amos: My mayor buddy ? LOL ...come one name my family !!
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you son's name starts with the last letter in the alphabet that Cardy knows all too well but I am not certain your buddy little Lou will even get the clue N'esy Pas?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Methinks everybody knows i go out of my way not to plagiarize anyone and if I use their words i give them credit for them furthermore you need to learn to quit texting an old man and simply pick up the phone when I call N'esy Pas?  
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Davis Amos: *you son's name starts with the last letter in the alphabet* Your not even close...
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Want me to call you sometime?
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @David Amos: Why don't you call me right now ?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: "Thursday nights are wing night when you dine in 5PM - 9PM.
    Come join in the great atmosphere, where friends meet. Hope to see you tomorrow night!!!!"
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Davis Amos: What does that even mean ? I have not received your call yet. 
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @David Amos: Where is my phone call ?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Ask you friend Davis or your RCMP buddies that is
     
     
    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: So how many accounts do you think are planted here to strictly come after you? I'm gonna guess ZERO. Nesy Pas? 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    David Amos
    Methinks Cardy should share some of little Lou's special butter tarts with the teachers ASAP N'esy Pas? 
     
     
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @David Amos:
    Somebody should do something. I'm not even sure what is the intended story here. Teachers aren't talking, their union ain't talking, and Cardy is trowelling it on as fast as he can and as thick as he can. It's almost a story like the whopping 2.5% budget increase story, a non-story, carefully crafted to appear like a story.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Trust that I have been talking to a lot retired teachers whose pensions are in jeopardy

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Addie lingley
    No matter what side of fence your on, either working or not working I have heard everything, anyhow the thing is we are all going through tough times, whether you are working, disabled, elderly or not working, maybe you lost your job , maybe you didn't, anyhow I think we need to take some deep breaths and try to be a bit better on being empathetic for those who are finding it hard during this god awful situation.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Addie lingley: Dream on
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Reply to @Addie lingley: I sort of agree, but have difficulty when reading these types of stories when the spokesperson typically is some union rep or association president that has a vested interest in laying a foundation for demands for more money, more staff, better pensions ...... If this was individuals talking about the personal impact it would easily be more successful. But given the spokespeople for the various articles on these issues over the past 6 months it is easy to be cynical.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Lou Bell
    29 responses out of 1300 ! And they decide to quote A TEACHER who obiously thinks the NBTA is " the government " It's their union ! ! Better look at the contract THEIR UNION signed ! Granted it is a stressful time for all people back working and teachers certainly are no exception . I'm sure there are issues but it's not CBC's business to be the conspiracy theorists here . And 29 responses out of 1300 is not worth writing any story about , and yet here's CBC attempting to make something ...
     
     
    David Amos
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    Reply to @Lou Bell: "Rick Cuming, president of the New Brunswick Teachers' Association, says teachers have a 'duty of loyalty' to their employer"
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Steve Ryan
    Teachers aren't happy but at least they are working and getting paid
     
     
    Steve Ryan
    Reply to @Steve Ryan:
    My daughter lost her job and her husband's pay was cut by almost 50%. They would love to trade places with the teachers. I'll bet there's no takers
     
     
    Jos Allaire
    Reply to @Steve Ryan: Are they qualified to teach?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Steve Ryan: Exactly 
      
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Jos Allaire: Are you?
     
     
    Gerald Celente
    Reply to @David Amos: Apparently we are all qualified to teach are own. So what does that say about ...anything/everything?
     
     
    David Amos
    Content disabled 
    Reply to @Gerald Celente: I don't think an anarchist would be satisfied with whatever anyone stated about anything in support of a flawed system so why bother playing into the hand of a man who prefer to see it all go to hell in a hand basket? I have no doubt Maggy/jJos would affirm that I like to argue in a public forum so why would i shy away from you? The hard part is seeing if one's words make into the light of day and remain in the system we are all funding. You are entitled to your opinion and I mine hopefully backed by some ethical consideration. In my humble opinion because of your earlier comment on how to reform the system I would disqualify you to be even a school janitor. However sometimes I react out of principle without being concerned about what corrupt public officials may think about my actions. For instance I am Pro Life so it follows I would be concerned about any child's continued well being after they begin breathing. Hence my reply to your buddy Dan Lee who disagrees with ol Pink.
     
     
    David Amos  
    Reply to @David Amos: Most folks who bother to read my words may not recall your first question to me and my reply so enjoy a little Deja Vu

    Gerald Celente
    Reply to @David Amos: So to make an interesting and articulate how ever lengthy story short - We the people always get the government we deserve and truth prevails. Agreed.

    David Amos
    Reply to @Gerald Celente: Methinks it would not be wise for me to agree within a self professed anarchist N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Rick Randall
    Anybody else notice that the more funding goes down the more teachers have been sending home letters saying that your kid should be tested for autism even though they get cleared by numerous doctors they will still maintain that its the kids fault for having a hard time learning in an over stacked classroom with 1 burnt out teacher. NB School System is trash.
     
     
    Cheryl MacLeod
    Reply to @Rick Randall: The public system is aimed to work for 80% of children. The outliers do not have to be autistic to have trouble in a public system. Parents of the other 20% are often supporting their kids differently, whether they realize it or not. Parents have the ultimate role of finding solutions for their children. That's the job. It isn't always easy.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Rick Randall: I feel sorry for the kids
     
     
    Gerald Celente
    Reply to @David Amos: Tremendously - in so many ways
     
     
    David Amos
    Content disabled  
    Reply to @Gerald Celente: So why would you wish to beat them?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Cheryl MacLeod: i concur 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Jos Allaire
    Those of you who think that it's such a great and easy job, why did you not become teachers? I know I could have, but declined. I'd rather be doing what I'm doing.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Jos Allaire: What is it you taught me by doing what you do?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Joe Campbell
    Teachers should make more on their salary if they are working from home. If kids are to get the best education they need; they need to be able to reach the teachers at any time during the day especially if they are only going two or three days a week. Issue a computer to all teacher for home (they get that now I think). Foot the bill for internet connection. Shift differential after 4pm. I dont think I missed anything?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Joe Campbell: Where is all the money coming from to finance your plan?
     
     
    Joe Campbell
    Reply to @David Amos: I would say your pocket! Where else?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Joe Campbell: At least you are honest Perhaps you should run for public office?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Lou Bell
    I suspect " the letter " that the Francophone teacher is from the NBTA and NOT the government . Especially when it appears this teacher is the only one making note of it ! Comprehension isn't really that difficult 
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Lou DumBell: You had to make it about the French again eh...
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Marc Martin: The story stated where it came from . Don't blame me , blame them Maggie !
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Marc Martin: It's obvious from the story this teacher's attempt was to politicize it ! Try harder Maggie .
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Are you talking to me or someone else ?
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Protests and personal attacks are NOT allowed in those cases by individuals with their own personal vendettas. Better read up on that .
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Are you talking to me or someone else ? Appears someone else !!!
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou DumBell: *Are you talking to me or someone else ? Appears someone else !!!* This doesn't make any sense...Medication time ?
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Marc Martin: That election sure appears to have been verrrryy painful for some . I'm not the one who's on meds !
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: You forgot to tell your story about the SANB Liberals today...My grandfather used to tell these stories over and over because he had dementia..
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Hey , they just might be getting the message that NB is a multi cultural society and not just one group of people ! If not , Que Sera , Sera ! What will be will be ! The polls gave them the answers they weren't looking for , it's up to them to change , not the other way around
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Lou Bell: What you just wrote doesn't make any sense...what are you even talking about ?
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: The false narratives that started with McKenna have been proven as just that . Like Trump in America , the minority base learning the hard way !
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Pretty simple . Their self serving agenda has hit a brick wall . They don't represent ALL NBers , they represent one minority and it's become quite obvious who are their backers and advisers
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Lou DumBell: Your making no sense....What are you even talking about ?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks Franky Boy is not your # 1 fan but Higgy et al know that he does receive your words byway of my email N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Randy McNally
    Reply to @Lou Bell: It seems to depend upon who is the suject and who is the object of said attacks 
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Randy McNally: Methinks these two deserve the attacks from the other N'esy Pas? 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    James Edward
    And what about the private sector? no stress? haha...they weak and institutionalized.
     
     
    Graham McCormack
    Reply to @James Edward: Maybe you should do a story about the private sector.
     
     
    James Edward
    Reply to @Graham McCormack: I pay CBC for that.
     
     
    Tim Biddiscombe
    Reply to @James Edward: Tell them you want more stories about the private sector then. You pay them, they should listen to you lol
     
     
    Graham McCormack
    Reply to @James Edward: You may want to scroll a bit; pretty easy to find stories that talk about the private sector.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: Yea Right
     
     
    Lou Bell
    Reply to @James Edward: Get Dave to write their story . We need a good laugh
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Lou Bell: I think both you and Davis would fit in the same public space environment...
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Who is your buddy Davis?
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Content disabled
    Reply to @Davis Amos: Be nice Davis.. 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Gerald Celente
    If we want to solve instructional and infrastructural problems in the public schools 3 things need to happen 1.- Get rid of unions. 2.- Get rid of university requirement for teachers. 3. - Bring back corporal punishment.
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Gerald Celente: So basically you want to live in a third world country ?
     
     
    Dan Lee
    Reply to @Gerald Celente:
    I like number 3.....
     
     
    Gerald Celente
    Reply to @Marc Martin: Actually it's just Canada in the 1960's. This structural arrangement produced the people who were still running the western world in the open decades of this century. My tongue was firmly planted in my cheek when I wrote this but, I must admit, I was looking forward to reading the responses.
     
     
    Gerald Celente
    Reply to @Gerald Celente: Unions are not required in order for teachers to instruct this country's children. University degrees do no not turn people into teachers. Corporal punishment: cause and effect.
     
     
    Tim Biddiscombe
    Reply to @Gerald Celente: All completely backward steps. Not going to happen.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Gerald Celente: I agree except for your rule 3

    I never laid a hand on my children and I would show no pity any person that would try to even to this very day and they are all adults now.
     
     
    Marc Martin
    Reply to @Gerald Celente: Yeah in 1960 and we are in 2020 that's 60 years later, we have evolved.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Dan Lee: Why does that not surprise me? 
     
     
    Dan Lee
    Reply to @David Amos:
    See thats the problem....your worried about their feelings......imagine 50 years ago......would you have told your teacher to shaddup..........not in your life........now they do......you dont want to be punish.....show respect.........you dint dare bring a note that you were bad in school........now they do and teachers face the parents wrath........
     
     
    David Amos
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    Reply to @Dan Lee: Try laying your hand on any kid even one of your own in front of me I double dog dare ya.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Shawn Tabor
    Those poor teachers, this is just white collar B/S, suck it up, or just Quit. Then they will use the kids as Leverage.
     
     
    Winston Gray
    Reply to @Shawn Tabor: why do you not value women and the work of child care?
     
     
    Lorelei Stott
    Reply to @Winston Gray: wow how did you get anything about women in that post, playing the woman card, you don't get to play it, sit down
     
     
    Winston Gray
    Reply to @Lorelei Stott: the education system is predominately women, the unfounded attacks on teachers and their work ethic is seeded in misogyny and devaluing women and the work they do.
     
     
    Lorelei Stott
    Reply to @Winston Gray: sit down, stop trying to inject your agenda in someone else's post
     
     
    Shawn Tabor
    Reply to @Winston Gray: I do, just have a lot of educational persons in my family. Have seen this tough, tough job up close and personal LOL.. Have seen and experienced child care and the government workers, mostly women. Have seen the power of the union. Married to a teacher once, experienced how the court takes her word just on words, plus throw in a great David Lutz, and a Reed Cheedore. Make money on kids. Please do not tell me any different, I lived it. Just more B/S
     
     
    Shawn Tabor
    Reply to @Lorelei Stott: Thank you
     
     
    Shawn Tabor:
    Reply to @Winston Gray: you should sit down with a bunch of them and take it all in. Them students are not stupid, they are now saying how they are so stressed, because of this covid, have to hand it to them students, they are learning from the best. LOL
     
     
    Winston Gray
    Reply to @Shawn Tabor: my wife works 10-12 hour days as a teacher. Kindergarten. She spends $2000+ of our own money every year on supplies that the district won’t replenish.

    She buys stuff for kids because the parents won’t replace it after the kids lose it.

    She goes in on weekends. And most of her colleagues do also.

    Most teachers are going above and beyond for children that are not their own. And then are attacked by the public unfairly.
     
     
    Johnny Jakobs
    Reply to @Winston Gray: you both have true and valid points. Its ok to get along..
     
     
    Shawn Tabor
    Reply to @Lorelei Stott: “stop trying to inject your agenda in someone else’s post”

    Isn’t that what all you teacher haters are doing on this article talking about the stresses teachers face?
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Shawn Tabor: Too Too Funny
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Shawn Tabor: Too bad so sad that you would not listen to as i explained teachers pensions years ago 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Johnny Jakobs
    The elephant in the room is "inclusion"
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Thats not my name
     
     
    Johnny Jakobs
    Reply to @David Amos: its not about you
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Wanna bet?
     
     
    Johnny Jakobs
    Reply to @David Amos: No, I don't want to bet.
    I said it's about "inclusion" in the Education system not "delusion"
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Methinks whether you wish to bet or not it is not wise to insult me like your buddy Oliver does. This is no game to me .I am the elephant in room who is far from deluded trust that you don't know a little bit about what you think you know as you tease people but you should be clever enough to understand that Cardy and many others know who I have been talking to about this very article as soon as I read it N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Johnny Jakobs
    Reply to @David Amos: Inform me than. What exactly have you been telling Cardy about Education? Just because you think "inclusion" is wrong or right, doesn't mean its all about you.
     
     
    Steve Ryan
    Reply to @Johnny Jakobs:
    I would describe it more as "entitlement"
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Why should care what you think after your insults?
     
     
    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @David Amos: pretty thin skinned when you hurl quite a few of your own.. poor baby Davey
     
     
    Johnny Jakobs
    Reply to @David Amos: My insults? You were the one who tried to hi jack my thread and direct it towards yourself.
     
     
    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: He's the most influential and sought after mind in the province on all topics. Just ask him he will tell you nesy pas
     
     
    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: Sorry. MINDS not mind. Plural. Got a party going on up there for decades id say
     
     
    Johnny Jakobs
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: I googled him and my computer froze... the binary computations couldn't keep up to the query. Reboot
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Ben Haroldson
    Why would a teacher want to answer a questionaire when bee see bee has the questionable practice of using tr ackers and data minors like the 14 that are on here now?
     
     
    Kevin Archibald
    Reply to @Ben Haroldson: nice way to mention you know who. smart.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Good point
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Kevin Archibald
    Shut er down. Can't have stress at work.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Kevin Archibald: Methinks Cardy believes nobody needs to learn reading, writing and arithmetic from real people these days when he gives the kids laptops so they can connect to Google which tell them everything they need to know N'esy Pas?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Your home insurance policy may soon carry a COVID-19 exclusion

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    Your home insurance policy may soon carry a COVID-19 exclusion

    Wording being added to policies that underscores inability to make COVID-related claim

     
    CBC News· Posted: Oct 28, 2020 12:59 PM AT
     
     

    Homeowners are advised to ask their insurance representatives about the communicable disease exclusion in their home insurance renewals. (CBC News Graphics)

    Homeowners may see something new when they renew their home insurance policies over the next few months: a communicable disease exclusion.

    This will protect insurance companies from any claims related to the COVID-19 pandemic, Amanda Dean, vice-president Atlantic for the Insurance Bureau of Canada, said Wednesday. 

    "Generally, pandemic risk is not an insurable thing, as the insurance industry is unable to provide protection for losses of this nature because there's no way to diversify the risk due to it affecting the entire world at the same time," Dean said. 

    The exclusion reflects the changes being made by international reinsurance companies, which  primary insurers buy insurance from. 

    "So what we're seeing is insurance companies starting to make the decision to add that to those home insurance policies," 

    Dean said the exclusion endorsement prevents anyone who contracts COVID-19 at someone's house from making a claim against a home insurance policy.

    "We know we're all doing our our best to protect ourselves, our neighbours, our friends and family. But you never know where this is going to creep up. If someone were to contract COVID-19 and pursue litigation, it could get quite, quite costly." 

    Dean said pandemic insurance is not normally available because the risk can't be diversified when it exists around the globe at the same time and can pop up in any community at any time. 

    And while typically no claim related to a pandemic can be made anyway, insurance companies have decided to add the exclusion wording that reinsurance companies have added it their agreements. 

    "What we're seeing is insurance companies making the decision to reflect that same wording within their homeowners  policies that they're offering to their customers." 


    Amanda Dean, vice-president Atlantic with Insurance Bureau of Canada, said the putting the exclusion on homeowners' policies will be a company-by-company decision. (Insurance Bureau of Canada )

    Dean said this is very new and she suggested homeowners speak to their insurance representative about it. 

    "Like any change at this point in time, it can be a bit unnerving because we've all gone through an awful lot in the past number of months."

    While only one insurance company has added the communicable disease exclusion to the home insurance renewal policy, Dean said there is potential for more companies to do so. 

    "Where this is something that's happening with reinsurance companies, it will come down to business decisions with insurers that are selling home policies here in Canada." 

    With files from Information Morning Fredericton and Information Morning Moncton

     

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    Commenting is now closed for this story.
     
     
     
     
    David Amos
    Surprise Surprise Surprise
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Anne Bérubé
    Then, please someone argue with me that insurance companies are no thieves?
     
     
    Jos Allaire
    Reply to @Anne Bérubé: It makes sense to me. I never thought my insurance company would cover for claims of this nature.
     
     
    Randy McNally
    Reply to @Anne Bérubé: You'll get no argument from me.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Randy McNally: Nor I
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Jos Allaire: Why would you?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Justin Gunther
    Watcha gon do with all that house, all that house inside yo yard,
    I'm gonna heat and insure that house, all that house $12K a year, check it out:

    My backyard's got a heated pool
    My invite list is climate cool
    My hashtags are all proper too
    #climatechangeisreal it's true

    Oh no we're weezing

    Friends are coughing, snotting on me
    and throwing up on me

    Oh no they're scheming

    Friends are plotting for my money,
    CERB money

    Watcha gon do when I serve you, I serve you with hefty suits
    I'm gonna call my brokerage house, brokerage house on call in cue, check it out:

    My friends are playing dirty
    The COVID got them crazy
    They say I owe them money
    So kindly reimburse me

    Oh no we're sorry

    COVID carveout in effect
    nobody's got your back

    Re read that policy

    By the way your payment's due
    last week!
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: If you should go chasing rabbits like the fancy French lawyer Michaud did after eating some kind of mushrooms then ever forget what the Doormouse said
     
     
    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @David Amos: I am mushroom free good sir. My daily regimen of medication is as consistently the same as its ever been. And my rabbit chasing days are over. I'm not sure I could say the same for much of NB but that's mostly because of all the elephants in all the rooms.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Justin Gunther:
    One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small
    And the ones that mother gives you, don't do anything at all
    Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall
    And if you go chasing rabbits, and you know you're going to fall
    Tell 'em a hookah-smoking caterpillar has given you the call
    He called Alice, when she was just small
    When the men on the chessboard get up and tell you where to go
    And you've just had some kind of mushroom, and your mind is moving low
    Go ask Alice, I think she'll know
    When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
    And the White Knight is talking backwards
    And the Red Queen's off with her head
    Remember what the Dormouse said
    Feed your head, feed your head 
     
     
    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Should I write a song about angry duty counself showing up to work half drunk or do I need to do that? I assure you I'm focusing a lot of my time on my own utility and its conversion into cash money.
     
     
    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: counsels
     
     
    Ray Oliver
    Reply to @Justin Gunther: Cool rap battle guys. Maybe you'll get to have one in person in Restigouche soon..
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Ray Oliver:Methinks everybody but you and your buddy little Lou know that I wasn't joking N'esy Pas?

    "A lawyer who represented the provincial government on several high-profile cases and served as president of the province's law society is facing criminal charges after consuming mushrooms"
     
     
    Justin Gunther
    Reply to @Ray Oliver: Well if isn't my good friend Mr. McRay, with an acoustic guitar and a BAND that can play. :-) 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    This actually makes sense. When you purchase home insurance, you are protecting the property, buildings and providing yourself some liability insurance if someone slips and falls or somehow injures themselves on your property.
    If someone visited your home and contracted some disease/virus, be that pneumonia, the measles, or some other ailment. The current insurance policies would not cover that nor were they intended to. So by excluding covid-19 ( pandemic ) insurance they are simply trying to mitigate future unnecessary lawsuits. The reality is none of us could afford to pay the premiums something like would cost even if it was available.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: I know you don't care but many lawyers know that Madame Dean and I have a huge bone to pick about my old Harley
     
     
    Anne Bérubé
    Reply to @JOhn D Bond: It only makes sense if you are selling insurance, right? 
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Reply to @Anne Bérubé: Not really, makes more sense for the individual buying insurance. Why pay for something that would never be paid out. The force majeure or act of god clause would mitigate any payment. This way it is excluded and premium is paid so good news for homeowners. 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Lou Bell: 
    Soon to come ? A long list of exclusions to be added that possibly would be covered . A good example of hidden agendas of the self serving insurance industry is their UNREGULATED decision of forcing people to replace the roofing on their houses . One can now get shingles rated and warrantied for 40 years . Your insurance company can direct you to replace that roof any time they wish and if one doesn't they can refuse to renew your insurance. My roof was in good shape , 25 year prorated warranty , and my Allstate agent told me I had to put on a new roof or they wouldn't renew my insurance. I called to question this and was told there was no negotiating . I did change companies and upon asking if my roof needed replace I was told by my new insurer it didn't . By the way , Allstate called and said they hadn't received my renewal confirmation . When I told them I changed companies they asked why I hadn't called to negotiate !!! REally ???
     
     
    Tom Campbell
    Reply to @Lou Bell: Yes, that sounds like insurance companies. They should have to send someone around to appraise the roof, and show you where you need to have it replaced.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Tom Campbell: methinks everybody knows your little buddy Lou has not clue but trust that many clops and lawyers know that I know more about the insurance business than most insurance people do The folks of New Brunswick have no idea just how bad the IBC has been putting it to them for years but Higgy et al and their buddy Brad Woodside in particular certainly do N'esy Pas?
     
     
    Jos Allaire
    Reply to @Lou DumBell: Allstate' s rates are lower for a reason. They are good until you have a claim. Then they will have nothing to do with you. You get what you pay for. 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Rekindle Warron 
    Time for a complete overhaul of home owner insurance. The current industry in Canada is an utter farce. Hey politicians - if you want to get elected take some notes.
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Rekindle Warron: I Wholeheartedly Agree
     
     
    Terry Tibbs
    Reply to @Rekindle Warron:
    If you wish to learn about insurance do a bit of research on Bob Rae, specifically Bob Rae's Ontario, where he promised government car insurance. 

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Rob Franklin
    I can see the concern about liability risk, but what if this thing gets so bad that my home gets broken into and raided and/or destroyed from people desperate for food/shelter and clothing? Where does the "covid-19" risk start and stop?
     
     
    SarahRose Werner
    Reply to @Rob Franklin: If society deteriorates to that point, I expect that all the insurance companies will have closed down.
     
     
    Tom Campbell
    Reply to @SarahRose Werner: they'll be among the first to go. In other words, take the money and run.
     
     
    JOhn D Bond
    Reply to @Rob Franklin: Most insurance policies have an exclusion for war/ terrorism, civil unrest would not be a large step. If it was on a massive scale. Otherwise the break in would be just that a break in and covered. 
     
     
    David Amos
    Reply to @Tom Campbell: Methinks thats a forgone conclusion a N'esy Pas"
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Charges may be dropped against Moncton lawyer

    Case against Christian Michaud being dealt with under alternative measures program

    Christian Michaud, 48, of Ammon, was charged last February after an incident where Michaud said he accidently ingested hallucinogenic mushrooms. (Shane Magee/CBC)

    Charges against a prominent Moncton lawyer of public nudity and causing a disturbance will be dropped if he successfully completes alternative measures.

    Christian Michaud, 48, of Ammon was charged last February after behaviour allegedly caused by ingesting hallucinogenic mushrooms. At the time, Michaud said he regularly forages for mushrooms and mistakenly consumed those particular mushrooms.

    The case was recommended for the alternative measures program. The province says the program is designed to "hold eligible adults accountable for their actions at the community level" and to make better use of resources by providing alternatives to the criminal justice system.

    Michaud told Radio-Canada last month that as part of the alternative measures, he admitted his fault in the incident and paid $85 the for cleanup of a police vehicle.

    He is to return to court Dec. 11. If he is considered to have successfully completed the alternative measures, the charges against him will be dropped.

    Michaud served as the president of the Law Society of New Brunswick in 2018-2019.

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    Prominent lawyer who represented New Brunswick government faces nudity charge

    Christian Michaud says he consumed the wrong type of mushrooms

    Christian Michaud, 48, of Ammon, north of Moncton, is to appear in provincial court later this month. (Shane Magee/CBC)

    A lawyer who represented the provincial government on several high-profile cases and served as president of the province's law society is facing criminal charges after consuming mushrooms.

    Christian Michaud, 48, of Ammon was charged Feb. 21 and is set to appear in Moncton provincial court later this month. 

    The charges include public nudity in Ammon, causing a disturbance on the same day, and committing mischief by making an RCMP Ford Explorer "inoperative."

    The charges allege the events occurred Sept. 22. 

    Michaud said he regularly forages for mushrooms and mistakenly consumed the wrong kind that resulted in a bad reaction while he was at his home north of Moncton. 

    "So possibly I completely lost my mind because it was a very strong hallucinogen," he told Radio-Canada.

    Michaud said his wife called 911 asking for an ambulance, but police also answered the call. After he was placed in the back seat, he said he urinated in the police vehicle. 

    He's upset police have opted to pursue charges. 

    Past law society president

    Michaud was president of the Law Society of New Brunswick from 2018 to 2019. 

    He was a partner with Cox & Palmer for more than two decades. He recently began his own practice. He told CBC News the change was not directly related to the criminal charges. 

    News releases about Michaud no longer appear on the Cox & Palmer website, including one marking his appointment in 2015 as Queen's Counsel, a designation awarded to select lawyers for outstanding service, dedication and commitment to the legal profession in the province. The news releases still appear in cached versions of the Cox & Palmer website. 

    He represented the provincial government in a case involving the rights of thousands of nursing home workers last year. He also previously represented Ambulance New Brunswick in a lawsuit related to bilingual service

    Michaud is scheduled to appear in court March 20. He said he intends to plead not guilty and will fight the charges.

    He's retained lawyer Nathan Gorham to represent him.

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    Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC.

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    Province plans to review Police Act, including disciplinary hearings

    Kennebecasis Insp. Jeff Porter, scheduled to face arbitration hearing, now plans to retire

    It comes on the heels of news that a senior officer with the Kennebecasis Regional Police Force, who has been suspended with pay for more than four years pending the outcome of a conduct complaint, now plans to retire.

    Insp. Jeff Porter was scheduled to face an arbitration hearing before the New Brunswick Police Commission in Fredericton on Oct. 26 over alleged sexual harassment and other Police Act offences involving a female civilian employee he supervised.

    But his arbitration hearing was adjourned until Dec. 31, the same day his retirement takes effect.

    Once an officer retires or resigns, they are no longer considered a police officer and the provincial policing oversight body has no authority to discipline them.

    Porter is at least the third officer in recent years to retire before facing possible disciplinary action.

    Former Saint John Police Force deputy chief Glen McCloskey retired in April 2018, six months before he was scheduled to face an arbitration hearing related to Dennis Oland's first murder trial in 2015 in the bludgeoning death of his father, multimillionaire Richard Oland. Another officer alleged McCloskey had urged him not to reveal he had walked through the bloody crime scene. (Oland was found not guilty in 2019 after being retried by judge alone.)

    And former Kennebecasis Regional Police Force chief Stephen McIntyre retired in 2016 after an independent investigator found he committed 23 breaches of various sections of the code of conduct by, among other things, failing "to ensure that the improper or unlawful conduct of Insp. Porter was not concealed."

    None of the allegations have been proven.

    Review of act an 'interesting question'

    Asked whether the Department of Public Safety is considering amending the Police Act to ensure officers can't avoid possible disciplinary action by resigning or retiring, spokesperson Coreen Enos did not answer the question directly.

    "The department intends to resume engagement with stakeholders in the very near future on modernizing the Police Act, which will include review of issues such as disciplinary proceedings," she said in an emailed statement, without elaborating.

    Jennifer Smith, executive director and CEO of the commission, described the idea as an "interesting question."

    "However, the NBPC is not prepared to comment at this time on potential changes to the Police Act," she said.

    The commission has offered the department "whatever assistance they need with respect to opening up the Police Act for review," she added.

    Suspension with pay 'vital'

    Bob Davidson, executive director of the New Brunswick Police Association, said a stakeholders' committee came up with several "major changes" two years ago, such as taking certain powers away from the commission and giving them back to the minister and having mutually agreed upon arbitrators, but they've been "sitting on a shelf."

    One change the association that represents the nine municipal force unions doesn't want to see is for officers to lose their pay while suspended, said Davidson.

    "Suspension with pay is vital to the front-line police officers," who may face false allegations by criminals, which can take years to "expose and defeat," he said.


    Bob Davidson, executive director of the New Brunswick Police Association, said Porter's case is 'very unusual.' (Ed Hunter/CBC)

    "Without it, there would be a major chilling effect," said Davidson. "Your livelihood would be gone. You could not afford to defend yourself under the criminal proceedings and the Police Act proceedings. So your whole life, your whole career will be gone."

    Davidson pointed to the case of Saint John Police Force Const. Chris Messer, who faced more than three years of criminal and Police Act matters, including six days in jail, before being cleared.

    Officers seek prompt hearings

    Officers want prompt hearings, he said. They "don't want a big cloud hanging over their head because they are accused of something."

    That's why the association took the position in the stakeholders' committee two years ago that conduct hearings should not be delayed by criminal proceedings, he said.

    "If you have proper professional independent investigators and the facts are known, we should have the hearing under the Police Act immediately, not wait around for all the legal manoeuvres and court proceedings that we witnessed with the Messer case, the Porter case [and] the McCloskey case.

    "We should be going right away to a hearing under the Police Act to clear these officers or determine if they did something wrong right away."

    Porter case a 'one-off'

    Davidson described Porter's lengthy case as a "one-off." Unique circumstances delayed proceedings and saw Porter collect his estimated annual salary of between $104,000 and $115,000 for four years, he said.

    Porter, a 31-year veteran of the force, which covers Rothesay and Quispamsis, has been suspended with pay since June 2016, shortly after the female employee filed a written conduct complaint against him.

    Porter is a manager and not a member of the union.

    An independent investigator hired by the commission found Porter committed 81 breaches of various sections of the provincial Police Act, including sexual harassment, abuse of authority, corrupt practice and discreditable conduct.

    Porter was subsequently accused of three more offences related to alleged retaliation against the original complainant.

    An independent investigator hired by the commission found he violated three sections of the professional code of conduct, including abuse of authority by harassment/intimidation, discreditable conduct while off duty, and insubordination.

    Porter has maintained the allegations are false.

     

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    Kennebecasis officer suspended with pay for 4 years now plans to retire

    Insp. Jeff Porter, accused of 81 breaches of Police Act, scheduled to face arbitration hearing Dec. 31

    Insp. Jeff Porter of the Kennebecasis Regional Police Force, who has been suspended with pay since June 2016, plans to retire, effective Dec. 31. (Facebook)

    A senior officer with the Kennebecasis Regional Police Force, who has been suspended with pay for more than four years pending the outcome of a conduct complaint over alleged sexual harassment and other Police Act offences involving a female civilian employee he supervised, now plans to retire.

    Insp. Jeff Porter was scheduled to face an arbitration hearing before the New Brunswick Police Commission in Fredericton on Monday.

    But last Friday, Porter "formally indicated he will retire at the end of 2020," Chief Wayne Gallant confirmed in an email to CBC News.

    "The arbitration process has been adjourned until December 31st."

    The New Brunswick Police Commission only has the authority to discipline active police officers. Once an officer leaves the force, the provincial policing oversight body has no jurisdiction to investigate or impose sanctions, which can range from a verbal reprimand to dismissal.

    Gallant did not provide an explanation for the adjournment.

    "I will not be offering any further comment on the matter," he said.

    Jennifer Smith, the commission's executive director and CEO, could not immediately be reached for comment.

    Porter, a 31-year veteran of the force, which covers Rothesay and Quispamsis, has been suspended with pay since June 2016, shortly after the female employee filed a written conduct complaint against him.

    An inspector's annual salary ranges from about $104,000 to $115,000.

    Municipal and regional forces in New Brunswick cannot suspend an officer without pay, unless the officer has been convicted of an offence under provincial or federal legislation.

    An independent investigator hired by the commission found Porter committed 81 breaches of various sections of the provincial Police Act, including sexual harassment, abuse of authority, corrupt practice and discreditable conduct.

    Porter also committed five violations of internal policies, including workplace harassment, according to the investigator's report obtained by CBC News.

    Porter was subsequently accused of three more offences related to alleged retaliation against the original complainant.

    An independent investigator hired by the commission found he violated three sections of the professional code of conduct, including abuse of authority by harassment/intimidation, discreditable conduct while off duty, and insubordination.

    None of the allegations have been proven and Porter has maintained they are false.

    Earlier this year, Porter lost his bid for a judicial review of his case. He "failed to establish any exceptional circumstances that would justify judicial intervention before the administrative process has been completed," Court of Queen's Bench Justice Terrence Morrison ruled.

    "One could be forgiven for suspecting that this motion is a veiled attempt at delay," Morrison remarked.

    He ordered Porter to pay $5,500 to the New Brunswick Police Commission for the "significant expense and delay" his application caused.

    Porter was previously investigated by the New Brunswick RCMP for alleged intimidation, sexual harassment, obstruction and mischief involving the complainant. No criminal charges were laid.

    Case dates back to February 2016

    The Porter case dates back to February 2016, when the alleged victim confided in Const. Kelley McIntyre that she felt threatened and intimidated by Porter and wanted to quit.

    McIntyre told another female officer, who told Steve Palmer, the deputy chief at the time, who took the information to then-chief Stephen McIntyre, of no relation to Kelley, and requested the allegations be investigated.

    Four days later, the chief ordered an investigation — not into Porter but into McIntyre, accusing her of "workplace harassment" for allegedly "poisoning the work environment" of Porter.

    Kelley McIntyre subsequently filed a Police Act complaint against the chief.

    An independent investigator found the chief committed 23 breaches of various sections of the police code of conduct by, among other things, failing "to ensure that the improper or unlawful conduct of Insp. Porter was not concealed."

    None of the allegations were proven.

    McIntyre, the chief, retired in the wake of the scathing report.

     

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