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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/david-coon-basic-income-guarantee-1.5400458

David Coon calls for basic income guarantee to replace social assistance

Coon tabled a bill on Tuesday that would amend the Family Income Security Act

Cassidy Chisholm· CBC News· Posted: Dec 18, 2019 12:19 PM AT



New Brunswick's Green Party Leader David Coon said basic income guarantee should replace social assistance. (Logan Perley/CBC)


New Brunswick Green Party Leader David Coon would like to see a basic income guarantee replace the province's social assistance program which has led to "government enforced poverty."

"It's a different kind of social assistance system, that's for sure. It's simpler," Coon said in an interview with Information Morning Moncton.

"It doesn't have the clawbacks. It doesn't have these awful rules that really bind people in poverty and prevent them from getting ahead in any way."

Coon tabled a bill on Tuesday that would amend the Family Income Security Act, which provides funding to people who can't support themselves financially.

Information Morning - Moncton

Private member's bill to amend the Family Income Security Act

David Coon is New Brunswick's Green Party Leader. 9:45

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Coon said he'd like to adjust the act to "promote and provide income security, combat poverty in the province, and ensure that applicants and recipients are treated with dignity and respect."

He'd also like the act to allow the social development minister to form an agreement with the federal government to provide a basic income guarantee for New Brunswickers.

"I think it's something we need to experiment with here and see if it's the way we can really move people out of poverty," he said.

Coon said people who rely on social assistance receive $537 a month — a number that hasn't changed since 2014. He said it's not enough to cover housing, food, transportation and other basic necessities.

Julie Gaudet, the author of 'Disability and Deep Poverty in New Brunswick,' said people can't survive on the current monthly allowance of the social assistance program. (Kate Letterick/CBC News)

"At the very base level, people need enough money to live and they don't have it."

Coon said he doesn't have a set figure of what the basic income guarantee would be, but the amount needs to be raised so people can survive.

The author of "Disability and Deep Poverty in New Brunswick" agrees with Coon. Julie Gaudet said more needs to be done for those living with disabilities who can't work.

In her 2017 report, she suggested implementing an assured income for people with disabilities. Now she's hoping Coon's suggestions will be taken seriously.

Information Morning - Moncton

Assured income for people with disabilities

8:34

Julie Gaudet of Moncton is an advocate for people with disabilities. 8:34

• Study finds disabled people living in 'deep poverty'

She said the provincial government spends less on social programs, something she wants changed so people can live comfortably if they rely on social assistance.

"There's a lot of hoops to jump through, [but] once you're at that level you should get enough to cover your basic needs," Gaudet said.

"We're just talking about the minimum of food, housing, transportation — so to me it's quite unacceptable and it should be done now and there's no reason not to do this."

With files from Information Morning Moncton

 

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Methinks my political foes should certainly understand why the longer I heard the Green Meanie Leader yap this morning the more I considered running against him in the next election N'esy Pas?

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https://www.greenparty.ca/en/convention-2016/voting/resolutions/g16-c009

On calling a leadership race (Bylaw 2.1.7.2)

Code:

G16-C009

Party Unit:

Members of the Party

Proposal Type:

Constitutional

Resolution Status:

Adopted, pending ratification

Resolution Timing:

In Advance

Submission Date:

Sunday, May 15, 2016

Submitter Name:

Bob MacKie

Party Commentary

This resolution was co-sponsored by Bob MacKie and Colin Griffiths.

Preamble

Whereas the Green Party of Canada has grown to approximately 20 000 members; and
Whereas the selection of a Leader of a national political party is a serious matter that requires consideration and planning; and
Whereas a Leadership contest is an opportunity to grow the party and engage in grassroots discussion; and
Whereas 2.1.7.2 is unclear as to whether the leadership contest must be concluded within six months; and
Whereas six months is too short and not consistent with current practice in other national political parties;

Operative

Be it resolved that
Bylaw 2 (Federal Council) be amended to read:
2.1.7.2
A Leadership Contest must be started within six months of the appointment of an interim Leader and concluded within 24 months of said appointment.
Previous wording:
2.1.7
Where the Leader's term ends or the position of Leader otherwise becomes vacant:
2.1.7.1
Federal Council shall forthwith appoint an interim Leader until a Leadership Contest is held and a new Leader is elected.
2.1.7.2
A Leadership Contest must be held within six months of the appointment of an interim Leader.

Sponsors:

Mary Ann Coleman, Simon McMillan, Christine Cantin, Bob MacKie, Kate Storey, Kyle Tate, Becky Smit, Ard van Leeuwen, Burt Folkins, Constantine Kritsonis, Danny Polifroni, Joe Foster, Johan Hamels, Marcus Madsen, Mark MacKenzie, Stacey Leadbetter, Lorraine Rekmans, Erich Jacoby-Hawkins

Background

Six months to start and finish a leadership contest seems like much too short a time to properly engage our growing membership. For comparison, at the recent NDP convention in Edmonton, the floor decided to extend their own leadership timelines from 12 to 24 months.
This motion doesn’t necessarily mean that the process will take 24 months, but it gives more flexibility. Federal Council can set a timeline within that framework that takes into account any external factors such as an upcoming election or byelection and that ensures a proper consultation of members is accomplished.

Related Discussion:

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Code

G16-C009

Proposal Type

Constitutional

Submitter Name

Bob MacKie

Party Commentary

This resolution was co-sponsored by Bob MacKie and Colin Griffiths.

Preamble

Whereas the Green Party of Canada has grown to approximately 20 000 members; and
Whereas the selection of a Leader of a national political party is a serious matter that requires consideration and planning; and
Whereas a Leadership contest is an opportunity to grow the party and engage in grassroots discussion; and
Whereas 2.1.7.2 is unclear as to whether the leadership contest must be concluded within six months; and
Whereas six months is too short and not consistent with current practice in other national political parties;

Operative

Be it resolved that
Bylaw 2 (Federal Council) be amended to read:
2.1.7.2
A Leadership Contest must be started within six months of the appointment of an interim Leader and concluded within 24 months of said appointment.
Previous wording:
2.1.7
Where the Leader's term ends or the position of Leader otherwise becomes vacant:
2.1.7.1
Federal Council shall forthwith appoint an interim Leader until a Leadership Contest is held and a new Leader is elected.
2.1.7.2
A Leadership Contest must be held within six months of the appointment of an interim Leader.

Related Discussion:

https://www.greenparty.ca/en/forum/

Sponsors

Mary Ann Coleman, Simon McMillan, Christine Cantin, Bob MacKie, Kate Storey, Kyle Tate, Becky Smit, Ard van Leeuwen, Burt Folkins, Constantine Kritsonis, Danny Polifroni, Joe Foster, Johan Hamels, Marcus Madsen, Mark MacKenzie, Stacey Leadbetter, Lorraine Rekmans, Erich Jacoby-Hawkins

Background

Six months to start and finish a leadership contest seems like much too short a time to properly engage our growing membership. For comparison, at the recent NDP convention in Edmonton, the floor decided to extend their own leadership timelines from 12 to 24 months.
This motion doesn’t necessarily mean that the process will take 24 months, but it gives more flexibility. Federal Council can set a timeline within that framework that takes into account any external factors such as an upcoming election or byelection and that ensures a proper consultation of members is accomplished.

https://www.nben.ca/en/about-us/nben-awards/19-nben-content/groups-in-action

The Phoenix Award

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For those who have dedicated their efforts to policies and legislation and have been through "the fire".

2019 Award presented to:
Symbiose
For the mobilisation not only of students but of the Greater Moncton community in solidarity with the global climate movement.

2018 Award presented to:

Lois Corbett
For contributing her extensive expertise in communications, advocacy, and policy development to New Brunswick’s environmental movement, enabling us all to amplify our impact on local, provincial, and national environmental issues.


2017 Award presented to:
Red Head Anthony’s Cove Preservation Association

In recognition of their unfaltering and ultimately successful commitment to defending their community and home from the threat of heavy industrial development.



2013 Award presented to:
The Fundy Biosphere Reserve

For their thought-provoking and accessible presentation of climate change through the production of The Whitney Journals.



2012 Award presented to:
Mark D'Arcy

 

In recognition of his bold leadership, creative strategies, and tireless devotion to raising public awareness about and mounting resistance to shale gas exploration.



2011 Award presented to:
Concerned Citizens of Penobsquis

 

In recognition of their unfaltering commitment to defending their community and home from the environmental impacts of industrial expansion in the face of a multitude of obstacles.



2008 Award presented to:
Petitcodiac Riverkeeper

For their triumphant effort to restore the Petitcodiac River through community leadership and relentless, strategic and purposeful work at all levels.




2007 Award presented to:
Friends of Rockwood Park

For mobilizing and empowering the citizens of Saint John to defend their environment and their community in the face of corporate domination.



2006 Award presented to:
Stephanie Coburn

For her steadfast courage, determination and commitment to the environment and the environmental movement in New Brunswick.




2005 Award presented to:
Florian Levesque

In recognition of his resolute work in organizing people and communities and defending the North Shore from becoming a sacrifice zone.




2004 Award presented to:
David Coon & Inka Milewski

For taking a direct hit and standing strong for our environment and our communities in the face of corporate intimidation.














2003 Award presented to:
Brenda Kelley

For her dedication to ensuring a healthy environment in Bathurst and honouring her leadership as a powerful mover and shaker who rallies the community when the environment is in danger.



2002 Award presented to:
David Coon

For his devotion to conservation and sustainable communities and for his thoughtful guidance which has been a source of strength and inspiration for New Brunswick's environmental movement.



2001 Award presented to:
Jerry Cook 

For providing thoughtful and effective community leadership on major environmental issues in Sainte-Marie de Kent.




Denis Belliveau

 

For having provided thoughtful and effective community leadership around the primary environmental concerns in Sainte-Marie de Kent.




2000 Award presented to:
Luc Boucher

For the relentlessness with which these three people defended the interests of the whole province and all citizens of New-Brunswick during multiple meetings and exchanges with representatives of the forestry industry hostile to the project of the creation of new natural protected areas in New-Brusnwick.


Roberta Clowater

For providing thoughtful and effective community leadership on the primary environmental issues in Sainte-Marie de Kent.




Jessie Davies

For the dedication she has shown to the development of a protected areas system, including defending the interests of New Brunswickers through many meetings with representatives of the forest industry.




1999 Award presented to:
J. Denys Bourque

For his dedication and relentless work towards environmental protection and the implementation of environmental policies in the Madawaska region as well as for the forests of our province.



1998 Award presented to:
Heather Lam

For her dedicated efforts to increase public awareness of the inhumane treatment of circus animals and for striving to effect bylaws which would restrict circuses with animal acts from performing in the city of Fredericton.



1998 Award presented to:
Amelia Clarke

For her ability to fuel the flames of activism in everyone she meets and to acknowledge her success in creating the Sierra Youth Coalition, an organization dedicated to policy change and environmental activism.

The Samaqan Award

For those who have dedicated their efforts to the waters and the species that inhabit the waters (formerly called the Orca Award).

2019 Award presented to:
Petitcodiac Watershed Alliance
For their continuing efforts to protect and restore freshwater habitat in the Petitcodiac and Memramcook River watersheds through science, education, and community engagement. 

2018 Award presented to:

Save Wetlands Waters and Tourism
For sounding the alarm about threats to coastal ecosystems and communities along the Northumberland Strait and for advocating for government transparency and accountability in addressing these threats.


2015 Award presented to:
Donald Killorn

 

For his tireless commitment and innovative approaches to the conservation of the freshwater ecosystems.



2013 Award presented to:
Mary delaValette

For her steadfast devotion in providing a daily news lifeline and conduit to the broader world which was essential to the formation and unity of the shale gas movement in New Brunswick


2011 Award presented to:
Sabine Dietz

For her determined and steadfast devotion to building a collaborative movement to protect New Brunswick coasts and coastal communities from the impacts of climate change.



2008 Award presented to:
Friends of Musquash

For ensuring the permanent protection of the Musquash estuary and its surrounding upland habitat, salt-marshes, coastal lands and their wildlife inhabitants.



2008 Award presented to:
Randy Nason

 

For his steadfast devotion to Grand Lake and its watershed, and his community leadership in the face of industrial encroachment.



2006 Award presented to:
Groupe littoral et vie

For inspiring children to learn more about watersheds, assume stewardship and engage their community to address environmental problems.




2005 Award presented to:
Association for the Preservation of the Bouctouche Watershed

For their valiant and unwavering defense of the Bouctouche ecosystem from the harmful environmental effects of a factory hog farm.





2004 Award presented to:
Daniel LeBlanc

For his warrior spirit that led him in a sustained fight to save and restore the ecosystem of the most threatened river in Canada; the Petitcodiac River.



2003 Award presented to:
David Thompson

In recognition of a life selflessly devoted to the ecosystem and the people of the Bay of Fundy.



2002 Award presented to:
Beth McLaughlin

For her tireless efforts in fighting City Hall on the issue of the privatization of the Moncton public water distribution system, and for her capacity to involve people from diverse backgrounds.



2001 Award présented to:
Le Club d’Ornithologie du Madawaska

For consented efforts by members since 1987 in order to create general awareness about the importance of the marshlands of Madawaska and in order to ensure their protection as well as that of the animal species who call them home.


2000 Award presented to:
Inka Milewski

For her outspoken and tireless commitment to the protection and rejuvenation of the Miramichi River and the species that inhabit it.



1999 Award presented to:
Janice Harvey

For her love of and commitment to the Bay of Fundy’s wildlife and people, and her work to protect the integrity of the Fundy ecosystem.




1998 Award presented to:
Rose-Alma Mallet

For her engagement in conservation and the restoration of coastal ecosystems, especially for her role in the opening of the causeway gates on the Petitcodiac River in order for its waters and its tidal bore to once again flow freely.

NBEN Awards

For Immediate Release
November 18, 2019

Community Groups and Individuals Recognized for Environmental Work

 

On Saturday, November 16, 2019, five environmental awards were presented to New Brunswick citizens and groups in honor of exemplary service to their community.

The Petitcodiac Watershed Alliance was honoured with the Samaqan Award for their continuing efforts to protect and restore freshwater habitat in the Petitcodiac and Memramcook River watersheds through science, education, and community engagement. The Samaquan Award is given to a group or individual who has dedicated their efforts to the waters and the species that inhabit the waters.

The Phoenix Award was presented to Symbiose, the student environmental group at Université de Moncton, for the mobilisation not only of students but of the Greater Moncton community in solidarity with the global climate movement. The Phoenix Award is given to a group or individual who has dedicated their efforts to policies and legislation and has been through "the fire".

The Gaia Award was presented to Megan de Graaf, Forest Ecologist with Community Forests International, for her deep understanding of the connection between people and forests, for her dedication to building rural capacity for the conservation and restoration of the Acadian Forest, and for doing so with great care, curiosity, and respect. The Gaia Award is given to a group or individual who has dedicated their efforts to the earth and the species that inhabit the earth.

EOS Eco-Energy was honoured with the Zephyr Award for their community leadership and on-going efforts to empower local solutions to climate change in the Tantramar-Memramcook region. The Zephyr Award is given to a group or individual who has dedicated their efforts to the air and the species that inhabit the air.

The Conservation Council of New Brunswick was presented with a special award in recognition of their 50 years of environmental action and leadership in New Brunswick.

The awards were presented during the New Brunswick Environmental Network’s annual meeting, Eco-Confluence, which was held in Fredericton over the weekend. Each year, significant efforts by citizens and citizen groups toward the protection and restoration of New Brunswick’s environment are recognized at a special awards ceremony.

The New Brunswick Environmental Network is a non-profit communications network of over 110 citizens’ environmental groups from across the province. The goal of the Network is to encourage networking and collaboration among groups and between groups, government, and other sectors.

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Photo credit: NBEN.

Media Contact:
Raissa Marks, 506-855-4144, nben@nben.ca

The Zephyr Award

For those who have dedicated their efforts to the air and the species that inhabit the air.

2019 Award presented to:
EOS Eco-Energy

For their community leadership and on-going efforts to empower local solutions to climate change in the Tantramar-Memramcook region.

 

2013 Award presented to:

Louis-Emile Cormier

In recognition of his passion and commitment to raising awareness about the importance of protecting birds and their habitats.


2009 Award presented to:

Rod MacAleese

For over 20 years of ardent dedication to and hard work on improving air quality on behalf of his family, neighbours, children in the nearby school and the people of New Brunswick.

2008 Award presented to:
Sharon Flatt

For her passionate commitment, ideals and belief that we can build a better and healthier world for our children, and her innovative ideas and willingness to collaborate with others to achieve this goal.

2005 Award presented to:
Géraldine Arsenault

In recognition of her role in the protection of the longest sand dune on the East Coast of North America and helping ensure that this unique natural preserved for its wildlife inhabitants and appreciation by people from all corners of the planet.

2004 Award presented to:
Emily McMillan

In recognition of her resolute commitment to environmental education and the promotion of environmental protection communicated through her seasoned voice of youth.


2003 Award presented to:
Dr. Jim Goltz

For his enduring love and devotion to our environment and all wildlife and in recognition of his lifelong work to protect and promote understanding of birds and their habitat.



2001 Award presented to:

Climate Change Caravan

For committing your hearts, souls, bodies and bikes to developing awareness and encouraging action among Canadians on the issue of climate change.


2000 Award presented to :

Roland Chiasson & Sabine Dietz

For their relentless work with communities, schools and governments as well as in the field in order to ensure the protection and awareness of the fate of the Piping plover.

 

1999 Award presented to:
Gordon Dalzell

For his devotion to ensuring clean air for the people of Saint John and throughout the province, and his passion for encouraging community involvement in environmental issues.


1998 Award presented to :
Marco Morency

For his intense engagement and his “renewable” energy in all that he does and especially for his efforts in order to keep the atmosphere free of nuclear material.

The Gaia Award

For those who have dedicated their efforts to the earth and the species that inhabit the earth.

2019 Award presented to:
Megan de Graaf
For her deep understanding of the connection between people and forests, for her dedication to building rural capacity for the conservation and restoration of the Acadian Forest, and for doing so with great care, curiosity, and respect. 

2018 Award presented to:

Chris Rouse
For his solutions-based environmentalism that has led to improvements in laws and regulations and, most recently, to detailed technical and economic modeling aimed at transitioning New Brunswick to a low-carbon economy.


2012 Award presented to:
Community Forests International

For their determined effort to maintain stewardship of Whaelghinbran Farm and to develop an on-site training centre to inspire youth and future generations to work towards achieving the health and diversity found within the Acadian Forest Eco-region prior to European settlement


2011 Award presented to:
Stephanie Merrill

For her inspirational and stalwart effort to build a province-wide movement dedicated to protecting New Brunswick communities from the perils of shale gas fracking.


2009 Award presented to:
Tracy Glynn

For expeditiously advancing social and environmental justice by engaging people from across the province on environmental issues requiring immediate attention.



2008 Award presented to:
Yvonne Devine

For her inspirational and energetic efforts to successfully alert and engage the people of southern New Brunswick about the perils of uranium mining and exploration.


2007 Award presented to:
George Fullerton

For his ardent leadership in establishing, through the New Brunswick Community Land Trust, the first conservation easements for working woodlots and farmland in the province.


2006 Award presented to:
Andrea Berry

In recognition of her dedication to expanding, promoting and facilitating organic agriculture in New Brunswick.




2005 Award presented to:
Roger Babin

For his unconditional devotion to exposing to the people of New Brunswick the poor land management practices on our Crown lands and bringing to account those responsible and his role in launching Forest Watch.


2004 Award presented to:
Simon Mitchell

In recognition of his steadfast commitment to the protection of our forests and the promotion of community forestry.




2003 Award presented to :
Jean-Guy Comeau

In recognition of his passion for the forest and his affection for the people of Miramichi and for the serious and stimulating work he has undertaken for them.



2001 Award presented to : 
Yves Carrier

For his consented efforts since 1997 for developing socio-economic activities that do not consume natural resources, in order to conserve the natural beauty of the Upper-Madawaska.


2000 Award presented to:
Steve Ginnish

For his outstanding contribution and commitment to the protection of Mother Earth … acknowledging his tireless efforts in his fight to protect the land from toxic waste dumps in the Miramichi.


1999 Award presented to:
Marc Spence

For his tireless commitment to the protection of our forest ecosystems and the development and implementation of forestry practices that are truly sustainable.



1998 Award presented to:
Roberta Clowater

For her tireless work to protect natural areas in New Brunswick through networking, public education, advocacy and scientific analysis, so that humans and all of the other living things that share our province will have a future here.

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The role of the NBEN is to improve communication and co-operation among environmental groups and between these groups, government and other sectors. The NBEN provides educational opportunities for its member and associate groups and encourages the growth of the environmental movement in New Brunswick. The NBEN is not an advocacy group and does not take positions on any issue.

 

--- On Tue, 12/7/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Fw: This was an expensive swamp EH Brucy Baby? Qui Bono?
To: Kyla.Winchester@natureconservancy.ca
Received: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 6:26 PM

Thanks Kyla my number is 902 800 0369

Best Regards

Dave

From: Kyla Winchester
Subject: Email
To: maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca
Received: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 6:04 PM

Dear Mr.Amos,

Please reply to this email and I will forward it on to the appropriate staff in our office.

Thank you,

Kyla

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--- On Tue, 12/7/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: This was an expensive swamp EH Brucy Baby? Qui Bono?
To: atlantic@natureconservancy.ca, bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, nben@nben.ca
Cc: "tracy", "danfour", "oldmaison@yahoo.com", nature@natureconservancy.ca
Received: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 5:56 PM

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Natural Resources

New Brunswick designates first private land protected natural area (08/11/19)

NB 1702
Nov. 19, 2008

FREDERICTON (CNB) - Seven parcels of land at Musquash Harbour, just west of Saint John, have been designated as the first private land protected natural area (PNA) in the province. The designation is the result of an agreement between the Department of Natural Resources and The Nature Conservancy of Canada (NCC).

"These lands will contribute significantly to the overall protection of biodiversity within New Brunswick," said Natural Resources Minister Wally Stiles. "The province has been involved in setting aside lands for ecological purposes for more than four decades, and we are pleased to continue our close collaboration with the NCC to identify lands worthy of protection."

The Musquash Harbour PNA covers 811 hectares (2,003 acres). It is of particular strategic conservation importance since, immediately downstream, is the Musquash marine protected area, a federally protected area, and immediately upstream is the Loch Alva PNA.

"The Nature Conservancy of Canada is pleased to work with the provincial government on the protection of critical habitats, such as the Musquash estuary," said Linda Stephenson, NCC's Atlantic regional vice-president. "The collaboration on the designation of the Musquash estuary under the Private Natural Areas Act will ensure that future generations will be able to enjoy the vast beauty of the area."

The inclusion of private conservation lands into the network of protected Crown land significantly increases the degree to which the province can ensure that as many examples of habitats and ecological communities as possible are preserved.

Musquash Harbour is a Class II PNA, which means the lands may not be used for forest harvesting; mining or aggregate extraction; permanent residential uses; commercial or industrial uses; or the introduction of non-native species. The area may be used for some recreational activities as well as for educational and scientific purposes.

"We are very appreciative that our first foray into PNAs is with our long time conservation partner, the NCC," said Stiles. "The efforts of private organizations such as NCC deserve the recognition and regulatory status afforded under the Protected Natural Areas Act."

The province provided $1.5 million to the NCC in August to increase its conservation programs in New Brunswick. The NCC is a national non-profit conservation organization that works to protect Canada's natural habitats.

08/11/19

MEDIA CONTACTS: Chrystiane Mallaley, communications, Department of Natural Resources, 506-453-2614; Crystal Folkins, communications manager, Atlantic region, The Nature Conservancy of Canada, 506- 450-6010, ext. 234, www.natureconservancy.ca/at.
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--- On Tue, 12/7/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: I called you all and tried to explain Now here is the email as promised My number is 902 800 0369
To: Info.nonprofitsector@gnb.ca, info@cfc-fcc.ca, James.hughes@gnb.ca, Ashfield.K@parl.gc.ca, angela.carr@gnb.ca
Cc: Sue.Stultz@gnb.ca, Greg.Davis@gnb.ca, roger.l.melanson@gnb.ca, bruce.northrup@gnb.ca
Received: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 2:52 PM

http://www.keithashfieldmp.ca/content/238487

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/community_non-profit/advisory_committee.html#1

 http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/community_non-profit/news/news_release.2010.11.1785.html

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Mary Ann Coleman – Southwest Region

Mary Ann Coleman has been a lifelong advocate of environmental awareness and stewardship.  She was instrumental in launching the New Brunswick Environmental Network in 1991.  Under her leadership, the network has developed into the fourth largest provincial environmental network in Canada with a membership of over 80 New Brunswick environmental groups.  In this capacity, she has developed an extensive network of contacts in Atlantic Canada and across the country.

In the past, she served as chair of the Waterford Local Service District Advisory Committee and as their representative on the Kings County Solid Waste Committee. Currently, she is a member of a provincial advisory committee for the Minister of the Department of Natural Resources and is also a member of the board for Recycle NB.

Ms. Coleman has been actively involved in a number of environmental and other non-profit groups, always working to make her community a better place to live. She is actively working towards the development of a New Brunswick strategy to reduce children’s exposure to environmental contaminants that are known to cause health concerns.

Ms. Coleman was the 1999 recipient of the Milton F. Gregg Conservation Award, presented by the Conservation Council of New Brunswick.

--- On Mon, 12/6/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Ms Guerghis and Mr Muir Here ya go as promised Good luck finding a lawyer willing to argue this stuff
To: dmuir@town.riverview.nb.ca, bclive@town.riverview.nb.ca, Sherry.Wilson@gnb.ca, sherry38@nbnet.nb.ca, imacdonald@town.riverview.nb.ca, rhyslop@town.riverview.nb.ca, aseamans@town.riverview.nb.ca, lenehandon@yahoo.ca, csweetland@town.riverview.nb.ca
Cc: Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, wayne.steeves@gnb.ca, bruce.fitch@gnb.ca, info@kellieleitch.ca, matrosovs.campaign@gmail.com, guergh@parl.gc.ca
Received: Monday, December 6, 2010, 9:47 PM

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: I was fair to you and the other nasty bastards in Sylvan Lake CORRECT Sgt Babchuk?
To: Duncan.Babchuk@rcmp-grc.gc, william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "Barry Winters", Dean.Buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Cc: lasselstine@sylvanlake.ca, rgrimson@sylvanlake.ca, szielinski@reddeeradvocate.com, editorial@reddeeradvocate.com, news@ckgy.com, smcintyre@sylvanlake.ca, dplante@sylvanlake.ca, kmacvicar@sylvanlake.ca, gparsons@sylvanlake.ca
Received: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 10:26 PM

http://www.albertalocalnews.com/reddeeradvocate/video/Samson_fends_off_mayors_past_in_Sylvan_Lake_105237083.html

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: I was fair to you and introduced myself before you replace the crook Marc Leger Correct Dale?
To: DPS-MSP.Information@gnb.ca, Dale.WILSON@gnb.ca, Meghan.Cumby@gnb.ca, Jason.Cooling@gnb.ca, Kevin.Dunn@gnb.ca, debbie.richard@gnb.ca, Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca
Cc: JAF@UNB.ca
Received: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 8:08 PM

I see that Debbie Richard still enjoys laughing at the police harrassment EH?
--- On Tue, 11/30/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: RE the Postmedia etc We just talked EH Ms Gelfand? Mr Lamb and the Yankee lawyer Mahoney know my number is 902 800 0369
To: pgelfand@postmedia.com, dlamb@postmedia.com, mfitzpatrick@postmedia.com
Cc: volunteer@JulianFantino.ca, tonygenco@email.liberal.ca, fornat@thestar.ca, pandrews@guelphmercury.com, torstar@torstar.ca, terry.seguin@cbc.ca, danfour@myginch.com, JAF@UNB.ca, william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "toewsv1", gael.mahony@hklaw.com
Received: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 4:52 PM

http://www.postmedia.com/news/

Phillise Gelfand
Director of Communications
pgelfand@postmedia.com
416-442-2936

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Tories+victory+Toronto+area+Liberals+gain+Manitoba+byelection/3904811/story.html

Perhaps the right wing reporter Ms Fitzpatrick should learn to read and scroll down and get a Fitzgerald's view from the left then get going to see what I sent her crooked cop hero Fantino as well

Perhaps the neocon spindoctors pretending to be ethical journalists should check out the pdf files I attached first in order to discover why they may become part of the news someday. After I notified your many media associates of my concerns about public corruption BEFORE I sued any Yankees N'esy Pas?

Whereas Ms Gelfand loves to argue perhaps the Yankee lawyer will explain why I do to and also love to sue crooked lawyers and and cops  as well. After all I sued you twice already CORRECT Mahony? Perhaps the third time will be a charm now that some Canadian students are taking an interest and the governments are getting nervous EH Yankee?

Mahony, Gael Attorney,617-523-2700,Boston,MA,

10 Street James Avenue

11th Floor

Boston, MA 02116.

Tel: 617-523-2700

Fax: 617- 523-6850;

URL: www.hklaw.com.

Email: gael.mahony@hklaw.com

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--- On Sun, 11/28/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Fw: We just talked Kevin My number is 902 800 0369
To: 730ckdmnews@mts.net
Received: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 1:56 AM

--- On Sat, 11/27/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Fw: We just talked Kevin My number is 902 800 0369
To: jeromedondo@mts.net, DeniseHarder@ndp.ca, christopherscottsarna@email.liberal.ca, info@robertsopuck.ca, kstorey@xplornet.ca, kate.storey@greenparty.ca, family@icenter.net
Cc: "David Amos"
Received: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 5:53 AM

--- On Fri, 11/26/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Fw: We just talked Kevin My number is 902 800 0369
To: mikkel@pirateparty.ca, bleskie@pirateparty.ca, media@gokevin.ca, yes@gokevin.ca, cpc-mb@mts.net, info@juliejavier.ca, KevinChief@ndp.ca
Cc: "David Amos"
Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 4:27 PM

--- On Fri, 11/26/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: We just talked Kevin My numbe is 902 800 0369
To: gsoule@ndp.ca, kevin@wasac.ca
Cc: rob.brown@canstarnews.com, "David Amos"
Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 3:06 PM

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/our-communities/times/Dogfight-in-Winnipeg-North-byelection-106551663.html

http://www.wasra.ca/executive.html





--- On Fri, 11/26/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Fw: What Claudia Rodriguez-Larrain said on CPAC about bankers was VERY important
To: volunteer@JulianFantino.ca
Cc: "David Amos"
Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 8:02 AM

--- On Fri, 11/26/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Fw: What Claudia Rodriguez-Larrain said on CPAC about bankers was VERY important
To: tonygenco@email.liberal.ca
Cc: "David Amos"
Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 7:40 AM

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/michael-ignatieff-courted-julian-fantino-but-was-rebuffed/article1814660/

--- On Thu, 11/25/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: What Claudia Rodriguez-Larrain said on CPAC about bankers was VERY important
To: voteclaudia@greenparty.ca
Cc: "David Amos"
Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 9:04 AM

voteclaudia@greenparty.ca

Phone:

905 417 8918

--- On Thu, 11/18/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Mr Gunderson Pursuant to our conversation perhaps you should check these files closely
To: pecman.john@cb-bc.gc.ca, Martin.K@parl.gc.ca, MartiK1@parl.gc.ca, malowj1@parl.gc.ca, jtravers@thestar.ca, fornat@thestar.ca, dkilgour@guelphmercury.com, sullivan.mike@cb-bc.gc.ca, gunderson.alan@cb-bc.gc.ca, rannan@goodmans.ca, tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com, maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca, cfrantz@flagshipsolutions.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com
Cc: dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, micah.wood@blakes.com, william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 12:48 PM

At the very least I proved to you that I am not crazy but very serious about the severe lack of integrity within our purportedly profound democracy. The CBA and legions politicians and bureaucrats have had my evidence of many crimes for years while they laughed at all the corrupt cops  etcattacking my family for years. Enough is enough. This stuff is your job not mine. Do something will ya?

http://www.cba.org/CBA/sections_competition/Leadership/CCandVC.aspx

Economics and Law Committee

Chair/Président Richard Annan - Goodmans LLP Bay Adelaide Centre, Box 3400 3400-333 Bay St Toronto, ON M5H 2R2 Tel (416) 597-4272 Fax (416) 979-1234 rannan@goodmans.ca Vice-Chair-Economics/ Alan Gunderson - Competition Bureau/Bureau de la concurrence Place du Portage, Phase 1 50 rue Victoria Gatineau, QC K1A 0C9 Tel (819) 953-7219 Fax (819) 953-6400 gunderson.alan@cb-bc.gc.ca Vice-Chair, Law/Vice-président, Droit Micah Victor Wood - Blake, Cassels & Graydon LLP 2800-199 Bay St PO Box 25 Stn Commerce Crt Toronto, ON M5L 1A9 Tel (416) 863-4164 Fax (416) 863-2653 micah.wood@blakes.com

--- On Thu, 11/18/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: I CALLED AGAIN CORRECT? YET i AM NOT WORTH TALKING TO BECAUSE LOTS OF PEOPLE CHECK MY WORK AND SOME MAKE FUN OF ME?
To: msnb@cfib.ca, Martin.K@parl.gc.ca, MartiK1@parl.gc.ca, cfib@cfib.ca, bill.corby@gnb.ca, alan_white@cbc.ca, brad.woodside@fredericton.ca, lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca, news@dailygleaner.com, info@gg.ca, bmosher@mosherchedore.ca, chebert@thestar.ca, msns@cfib.ca
Cc: "pm", ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca
Received: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 7:23 PM

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From: David Amos
Subject: Fw: I CALLED CORRECT?
To: info@jigsawprods.com
Cc: q@cbc.ca
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 10:27 AM

 

From: David Amos
Subject: I CALLED CORRECT?
To: Michael.D.Jones@citizensbank.com, jon_goldstein@putnam.com, laura_mcnamara@putnam.com, dkmurphy@fnf.com
Cc: jeanb@parl.gc.ca, Hubbell@hubbellgroup.com
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 10:20 AM

http://www.pr-inside.com/robert-l-reynolds-named-president-and-r639586.htm

http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/06/stunning_mutual_fund_hire_fidelitys_reynolds_to_ailing_putnam.html

http://www.prweb.com/releases/Putnam_Investments/retirement_reform/prweb2396434.htm

http://www.citizensbank.com/about-us/media-contacts.aspx

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/investment-ideas/streetwise/putnam-acquisition-still-dogging-great-west/article1795172/

http://www.investor.fnf.com/releasedetail.cfm?CompID=FNT&ReleaseID=520966

http://www.hubbellgroup.com/

From: David Amos
Subject: I JUST CALLED THE LAWYER BRIAN JEAN CORRECT?
To: jeanb1@parl.gc.ca
Cc: pm@pm.gc.ca
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 3:19 PM

 

From: David Amos
Subject: Thanx Claire Banquerigo but you should pressed print on these pdf files and put them on Harper's desk long ago correct?
To: fornat@thestar.ca, pandrews@guelphmercury.com
Cc: torstar@torstar.ca, terry.seguin@cbc.ca, danfour@myginch.com, jaf@unb.ca
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 2:50 PM

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Clearly I see you people checking my work

On 11/15/10, Foreign/National Desk <fornat@thestar.ca> wrote:
> Dear David Amos,
>
> Thank you for your e-mail. We will review the material and contact you if
> necessary.
>
> Regards,
>
> Claire Banquerigo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:33 PM
> To: Andrews, Phil; Harvey, Campbell; Travers, Jim; Foreign/National Desk;
> Kilgour, David
> Cc: maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca; terry.seguin@cbc.ca
> Subject: RE;: "Sorting out wild sources from real stories I just called
> Toronto Star dudes again (902 800 0369)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: pandrews@guelphmercury.com
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 7:03 PM
> Subject: Fw: Re BHP and its failed takeover bid Thank you David Alward
> and Donald Arsenault for your obvious bullshit
>
> Sorting out wild sources from real stories
>

 

--- On Fri, 11/12/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Fwd: I read the Telegraph Journal today Need I say John Herron, Keith Ashfield, Colleen Swords, many Indians and you should remember me well EH Mr Duncan?
To: thejdman2003@yahoo.co.uk
Received: Friday, November 12, 2010, 8:17 PM

--- On Thu, 11/4/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Fwd: I read the Telegraph Journal today Need I say John Herron, Keith Ashfield, Colleen Swords, many Indians and you should remember me well EH Mr Duncan?
To: support@youtube.com, "DDrummond", "wrozeluk", "robin reid", "Tony Anderson", "toewsv1", trevor.holder@gnb.ca, "danfour", "JAF", "oldmaison@yahoo.com", "john.logan"
Cc: "info", "Barry Winters", "maritime_malaise", "dean Ray", "Dean.Buzza", "Randy.McGinnis"
Received: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 11:19 PM

I will call your corporate HQ in Canada and the USA again tomorrow.
GOOGLE and I have a few forums, blogs and YOUTUBE channels to argue
about as well. Slander is one thing but Death Threats and violations
of privacy are VERY illegal in Canada and the USA EH?

http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/moncton-area-nb/TNI9HUTBDGU5LOGKS

http://charlesotherpersonality.blogspot.com/2008/07/david-amos-picked-up-by-rcmp.html

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html

http://govinjustice.blogspot.com/2008/10/rcmp-david-raymond-amos.html

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/browse_thread/thread/0b77cdc38c400764?hl=ky&pli=1

http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/10/david-amos-and-zorro-cunteven.html

http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidBanhammeredAmos

http://www.youtube.com/user/Ilikenuman

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http://www.youtube.com/user/MrTeslaray

http://www.youtube.com/user/sylvantaxiguy

Trust that I would rather argue corporate lawyers such as the likes of
David Drummond and his many minions in open court than a mindless
noname computer that does not even know how to use a phone let alone
read an email or WATCH MY YOUTUBES.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:00:14 -0300
Subject: Fwd: I read the Telegraph Journal today Need I say John
Herron, Keith Ashfield, Colleen Swords, many Indians and you should
remember me well EH Mr Duncan?
To: nbpirg@gmail.com
Cc: maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:28:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: I read the Telegraph Journal today Need I say John Herron,
Keith Ashfield, Colleen Swords, many Indians and you should remember
me well EH Mr Duncan?
To: pritchett.jennifer@telegraphjournal.com,
John.Herron@atlanticaenergy.org, oldmaison.wcie@gmail.com,
"oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, david.alward@gnb.ca
Cc: wernick@ainc-inac.gc.ca, swords@ainc-inac.gc.ca,
Duncan.J@parl.gc.ca, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
ychoukri@wstephenson.com


http://www1.gnb.ca/legis/bios1/bio-e.asp?IDNo=257&version=e&legisNO=57
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30th, 2010









Conflict: Move comes amid series of stories outlining financial
mismanagement by band. The reserve, remarks a former band councillor,
'is a dictatorship.'


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TOBIQUE FIRST NATION - I've been banned from Tobique First Nation.







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David Smith
Stephen Perley, a member of the security team at Tobique First Nation,
poses for a photo outside the Tobique Youth Centre. Perley says he was
instructed by Chief Stewart Paul not to let reporter Jennifer
Pritchett on the reserve. Pritchett has authored a series of stories
Perley called 'negative.' Tobique, he says, 'doesn't need the
publicity.'



David Smith
A welcome sign near the entrance to the Tobique First Nation next to
some election signs from the recent band council vote.



David Smith
A view of Saint Ann's Parish Church on the Tobique First Nation. The
church was built in 1925 after the original chapel, built in 1853, was
destroyed in a fire on Nov. 10, 1923. photo:



David Smith
A view of the Neqotkuk Health Centre on the Tobique First Nation.
Construction on the health centre was recently completed and it is now
fully operational.



David Smith
Photographer David Smith, at first kicked off the Tobique reserve, was
invited back to take 'positive' pictures. Here, a view of the Tobique
First Nation through a window in the Tobique Youth Centre. The
children who attend activities at the centre decorated the windows
with painting. According to centre director, Tosha Moulton, it is a
favourite activity .



David Smith
A view of the abandoned band council offices on the Tobique First Nation.



Mark Rickard/Canadaeast News Service
Stewart Paul, above, has been chief of the band for 13 of the last 20
years and was recently re-elected leader. A security officer barred
reporter Jennifer Pritchett from Tobique, saying he was acting on
instructions from the chief. At left, in a story last March,
Telegraph-Journal writer Jennifer Pritchett explored efforts to keep
the Maliseet language alive on the Tobique reserve.


Stephen Perley, a member of the security team at Tobique First Nation,
poses for a photo outside the Tobique Youth Centre. Perley says he was
instructed by Chief Stewart Paul not to let reporter Jennifer
Pritchett on the reserve. Pritchett has authored a series of stories
Perley called 'negative.' Tobique, he says, 'doesn't need the
publicity.'





PHOTO-ILLUSTRATION: SONJA SCHRICK/TELEGRAPH-JOURNAL

While on assignment on the reserve near Perth-Andover, a band security
officer, a pleasant-mannered man named Stephen Perley, informed me
that Chief Stewart Paul had decided I was not permitted on the reserve
- under any circumstances.
"I was instructed by my chief," Perley said firmly, "not to let you
into the community."
The security officer explained the chief put the ban into effect
following a series of stories in the Telegraph-Journal this fall about
the finances of Tobique First Nation. Those stories detailed
long-standing and serious financial "deficiencies" in record-keeping
practices and the management of public funds in the aboriginal
community of 1,600 people.
With a crippling $45-million debt - some of which is money the band
can't account for - Tobique faces some long-term challenges.
Unemployment is as high as 80 per cent.
Efforts to rein in the debt load has affected some of the community's
weakest individuals - including 88-year-old Lillian Deveau, who had
her home care cut.
The series of stories detailed:
* that more than $400,000 earmarked for child protection services on
the reserve has gone missing;
* how auditors going through annual financial statements for the band
found "significant deficiencies" - including instances of fraud and
theft of band money dating back to 2007;
* that more than $500,000 earmarked for the construction of a
rehabilitation centre on the reserve is unaccounted for;
* how a forensic audit of Tobique's finances was stalled this summer
because, auditors said, financial documents were missing and native
leaders weren't co-operating.
Both the current chief and the previous chief, Gerald Bear, have told
me that they did cooperate with forensic auditors and that they have
no knowledge of the misuse of funds.
The security man, Stephen Perley, described the series outlining these
issues as "negative" and said that the community "doesn't need the bad
publicity" about its affairs.
He had been called, he said, to ask photographer David Smith and I to
leave the community after we had visited various public offices in
Tobique looking to speak with band officials. He had been told what
type of car we were driving and the licence plate number.
The security man caught up with Smith at about 4 p.m. Thursday while
he was alone taking pictures near the community gas station. I had
left the reserve and was on my way back when Smith called to say he
had been stopped by security.
He was told to inform me that I was barred from entering Tobique First Nation.
The security man threatened to confiscate photographer Smith's gear,
but later relented and invited him to remain in the community, under
band supervision, to take pictures of "positive" local projects,
including a new health centre, a school under construction and a youth
centre.
I called Perley on his cellphone to find out exactly why I was being
banned. He did not waiver.
"We're allowing the photographer," he said. "Don't come here. You only
write negative stories."
The truth is, I've written countless stories about New Brunswick's
native reserves that didn't detail financial "deficiencies" or the
misuse of funds. Last winter, I spent five weeks on the road
travelling to each of the province's 15 First Nations and then wrote a
lengthy profile on each.
The Tobique profile highlighted the fact that fewer than 10 per cent
of the people in the community still speak their native Maliseet
language. It also detailed various local efforts to save their
language from extinction.
Since then, the newspaper had followed up with several other stories
about initiatives designed to bolster the Maliseet language.
Nonetheless, the security man told me this week that people in the
community didn't want a reporter hanging around asking questions.
Former Tobique First Nation band councillor David Perley said that
just isn't true and was surprised to hear that a Telegraph-Journal
reporter had been barred from entering the community because certain
individuals in the community didn't approve of the newspaper coverage.
"I'm shocked that they would go to these extremes of banning you from
the community," he told me after I had reached him by phone.
Perley said he's disappointed that Chief Stewart Paul would block the
freedom of the press.
"That doesn't happen in a democracy," he said. "This is a
dictatorship. I just can't get over it. I just can't believe it, not
this day in age. (The band leadership) is ignoring the drug dealers.
There is such a drug problem in Tobique - and (they are) banning
people who try to get the truth out."
Perley said the band is required to convene a meeting and pass a
resolution in order to ban an individual from the community.
"If they don't have that," he said, "whatever they're doing is illegal."
Perley isn't aware of any meeting that has taken place to pass such a
resolution.
"The chief has no authority to do that on his own," he said.
Stewart Paul, a lawyer, has been chief for 13 of the past 20 years and
was re-elected in band election earlier this month. I tried reaching
him, without success. My messages were left unanswered.
I did reach Daniel Theriault, a Fredericton lawyer who specializes in
aboriginal law and treaty rights. He agreed that the Indian Act does
contain a provision that gives chief and council the right to ban an
individual from a reserve, but that a resolution or bylaw has to be
passed first.
"The bottom line is, yes, in my opinion, they do have the right to ban
people from the reserve," Theriault said. "However, it's generally
used to stop a criminal element from frequenting or residing on the
reserve."
According to the Indian Act, a band council may pass a bylaw for the
"removal or punishment of persons trespassing or frequenting the
reserve for prohibitive reasons."
A ban, Theriault said, would extend to any public roads built on
reserve land - including Route 105 that cuts through Tobique First
Nation on the way north to Grand Falls.
The band is required to notify the department of Indian and Northern
Affairs if it passes a bylaw prohibiting someone from the reserve, he
said. He had never heard of a band barring a member of the media.
I asked Indian and Northern Affairs if a band council and chief had
the right to prohibit an individual from entering a reserve.
Spokeswoman Margot Geduld referred to section 30 of the Indian Act,
which states "a person who trespasses on a reserve is guilty of an
offence."
The issue, she added, is that "trespass" isn't defined in the act.
"A court of law would have to determine that," Geduld said.
Security man Stephen Perley cited the Indian Act to photographer Dave
Smith when he threatened to confiscate his camera equipment. Perley
made no mention of trespassing or of a band council resolution.
The newspaper stories that have apparently caused me to be banned
relied heavily on audit documents that had been sent to the newspaper
by concerned citizens - people who live in Tobique.
After those stories were published, residents posted them on the
bulletin board inside the gaming facility for all to see.
In the days following those reports, band members have continued to
contact the newspaper.
Throughout my reporting for stories about Tobique's social conditions
and financial affairs, I knocked on many doors in the community.
Most residents didn't want to publicly voice their concerns. They said
they didn't want to be quoted in the newspaper because they were
afraid. Some declined to be interviewed out fear of losing their band
jobs; others were afraid of losing their house or any benefit overseen
by the band.
My stories have attempted to give those residents a voice.

Jennifer Pritchett is a provincial reporter for the Telegraph-Journal.
She can be reached at pritchett.jennifer@telegraphjournal.com.

Too funny EH Chucky Leblanc?

BTW my old political opponent the aptly named lawyer Rob Moore and his
liberal lawyer buddies Paul Zed and Davy Baby Lutz should at ;least
affirm that Johnny "Never Been Good" Herron  was NEVER a Conservtive
MP CORRECT Mr  Minister Duncan?

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Phone: (506) 674-9425
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Vice - President – John Herron
Phone: (506) 674-9439
Email: John.Herron@atlanticaenergy.org

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From: David Amos
Subject: Fw: Brucy Northrup is gonna try to explain BHP's game on CBC
tomorrow? Now that is funny
To: freddoucette@hotmail.com
Cc: "David Amos"<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Received: Saturday, October 30, 2010, 3:40 PM








--- On Mon, 10/25/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Brucy Northrup is gonna try to explain BHP's game on CBC
tomorrow? Now that is funny
To: terry.seguin@cbc.ca, Jane.McAloon@bhpbilliton.com,
Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com
Cc: Matt.Jones@gnb.ca, acampbell@ctv.ca, Anne.Bullmonteith@gnb.ca,
bradw@bradwall.com, "pm"<pm@pm.gc.ca>
Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 5:37 PM








--- On Mon, 10/25/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Fw: Have you heard of the political term October Surprise?
Well enjoy Professor and please pass it on
To: chiefape@gmail.com, david.alward@gnb.ca, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca,
"danfour"<danfour@myginch.com>, oldmaison.wcie@gmail.com
Cc: "Mackap"<Mackap@parl.gc.ca>, Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Received: Monday, October 25, 2010, 9:35 PM








--- On Wed, 10/20/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Fw: Have you heard of the political term October Surprise?
Well enjoy Professor and please pass it on
To: info@votejamie.ca, hector.macisaac@macisaacclarke.com,
dbright@boyneclarke.ca, JRaff@burchellmacdougall.com,
pictoucentremla@rosslandry.ca, justmin@gov.ns.ca, lgoffice@gov.ns.ca,
mlaclarke@ns.sympatico.ca, mgorman@herald.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, "Mackap"<Mackap@parl.gc.ca>,
macaul@parl.gc.ca, injusticecoalition@hotmail.com, "Barry Winters"
<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Received: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 7:03 PM







Can anyone tell that I am really pissed off but laughing at the
nonsense of it all at the same time? Looks like Upper canadian lawyers
are lining up for the big score while my old foes such as the nasty
lawyer Ward Elcock is still stuttering before parliamentarians about
all the money he spent on Harper's big weekend EH Petey Baby MacKay?
rember when he tried to send a RCMP SWAT team after my kids and I when
your buddy Gordy O'Conner was his boss as the Minister of Attack in
2006?

http://www.csis-scrs.gc.ca/nwsrm/spchs/spch17102003-eng.asp

https://www.g20classactionlawsuit.ca/contact

For contacts or inquiries unrelated to these purposes, please contact
us at dmm@g20classactionlawsuit.ca.

It is small wonder to mean old me that the very corrupt FEDS want a
publication ban on this corrupt cop BULLSHIT in the Pictou area. Hell
everybody and his dog knows that there has been a publication ban on
my work and even my name since 2002 and I ran for Public Office four
times. REMEMBER WHY Cecil Clarke?  If any of you wish to recall I did
run against Jamie's hero the former Attorney General the ex cop and
now ex MLA Murray Scott Look below to see that was nearly a year after
I sent his buddy the long dead and very corrupt lawyer Mikey Baker and
their old boss the "Not So Good" Dr Hamm hundreds of documents and one
CD byway of REGISTERED US MAIL signature required. Everybody should
ask to see the hard copy just ask the lady the Justic Minister's
walked walk past nearly every day for over five fucking years. She
even knows my voice when I call  CORRECT Mr Landry?

Nedd I say I enjoyed the turncoat Don Tabor's bullshit too?

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=78235025968

http://pcparty.ns.ca/node/263

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jamie-Baillie/105455879506728#!/pages/Jamie-Baillie/105455879506728?v=info

email info@votejamie.ca
Phone: (902) 423 4604

That was long before the very corrupt ex RCMP dude Ross Landry ever
became a blip on my radar screen or even before the nasty FED cop had
a spit and chew with many local cops who were appaulled byt the RCMP
WAY of ignoring the LAW. Can you and the lawyers tell that I read a
lot and even what the Yankees say about you too?

http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1206773.html

http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/halifax_attorneys_09.pdf


I will leave you all to wonder who else got this email before and after you did.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

--- On Wed, 10/20/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Fw: Have you heard of the political term October Surprise?
Well enjoy Professor and please pass it on
To: torts3@aol.com, traficantforcongress@yahoo.com
Received: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 4:31 PM








--- On Tue, 10/19/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Have you heard of the political term October Surprise? Well
enjoy Professor and please pass it on
To: madd_professor@cox.net, theoneswithoutnames@yahoogroups.com,
6thTRUMPETsurvivalists@yahoogroups.com, 8thDAY@yahoogroups.com,
DESTROY_THE_BEAST@yahoogroups.com,
Global_Police_State@yahoogroups.com, LIBERTYISNOTFREE@yahoogroups.com,
TheFinePrint@yahoogroups.com, roberttrevors@nbnet.nb.ca,
rob.lafrance@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, JAF@UNB.ca,
dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, "danfour"<danfour@myginch.com>,
DannyWilliams@gov.nl.ca, "david.rodenhiser"
<david.rodenhiser@nspower.ca>, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Cc: "rick. skinner"<rick.skinner@dhs.gov>, "PATRICK. MURPHY"
<PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov>, negc@tiac.net, david.alward@gnb.ca,
info@atlanticagroup.com, france.dionne@mri.gouv.qc.ca,
webmaster-e@transcanada.com, tkiley@northeastgas.org
Received: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 1:10 PM







Trust that crook Binns thinks that he knows everything but Prime
Minister Harper and his greasy, gassy and oily friends are playing the
dumb Mritimer like a fiddle just like they did to the smiling bastard
Shawny Baby Graham for the past four years

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/boston/highlights-faits/CanaportLNGanniversary-anniversaire-2010.aspx

http://www.northeastgas.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=35

http://www.transcanada.com/contactus.html

http://www.gouv.qc.ca/portail/quebec/international/usa/delegation/boston/conseillers/

http://www.atlanticagroup.com/index.php?sec=7

http://www.northeastgas.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=35

For further information, please contact:
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Executive Director
New England Governors' Conference, Inc.
76 Summer Street, 2nd floor
Boston, MA 02110-1226
tel.: 617-423-6900
fax: 617-423-7327
e-mail: negc@tiac.net

--- On Tue, 10/19/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Fw: Mr Spurr here is the reason that I told you the story
about the RCMP, CTV, CBC, Youtube, BCE and Alliant
To: Submit.jlcr@gmail.com
Received: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 11:43 AM








--- On Mon, 10/18/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Fw: Mr Spurr here is the reason that I told you the story
about the RCMP, CTV, CBC, Youtube, BCE and Alliant
To: LewisAR2@state.gov, thornmj@state.gov, KlopfensteinNR2@state.gov,
william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Received: Monday, October 18, 2010, 4:14 PM








--- On Sun, 10/17/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Mr Spurr here is the reason that I told you the story about
the RCMP, CTV, CBC, Youtube, BCE and Alliant
To: robert.hanf@emera.com, "James.Spurr"<James.Spurr@emera.com>,
"david.rodenhiser"<david.rodenhiser@nspower.ca>
Cc: maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca, shelley.black@enbridge.com,
info@northerngateway.ca, info@pipeupagainstenbridge.ca,
jolan@forestethics.org, info@cupe.bc.ca, info@pacificwild.org,
Jessica.Wilson@greenpeace.org
Received: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 10:34 PM







I did try hard to talk to you last fall. Ask David Rodenhiser. That
said I think you Emera dudes are crazy not to at least try to settle
with me before I decided to raise the stakes in your wicked game.
Please don't think me dumb I saw you checking me out whilst we talked
and I could tell that you believed every word I said.

FYI the reason I was so pissed off was a few days earlier a host of
very corrupt cops in seven cars pounced my son and I at 2:30 in the
morning right after the David Alward and the PCs won their big
mandate. As you can see I have reloaded some of my old videos that
were maliciously deleted just as the writ was dropped. Surf through
and you will see your face Mr Spurr You seemed like an ok guy on the
phone but so did the former Attorney General Mikey Murphy before he
and his pals sent all the corrupt cops to attack me. If nothing you
should deny that we talked on the 6th and that quite some time before
I opted to upload a video about you Ermera dudes again and reintroduce
myself to big talking activists in BC.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MaritimeMalaise





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From: Redden, Zeda
To: David Amos
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:43 AM
Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Yo George Cope I am still very
curious if the lawyers Fred Crooks and Maritine Turcotte have learned
the meaning of the word INTEGRITY yet?


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> Subject:
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> January 30, 2007
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Mr. David Amos
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>
> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> Minister of Health
>
> CM/cb
>
> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,
> John.Foran@gnb.ca, Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,
> "Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have n
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>
> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>
> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada and
> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
> policing in
> Petitcodiac, NB.
>
> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> Traffic Services NCO
> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: <george.cope@bell.ca>; "acampbell"<acampbell@ctv.ca>;
<alyson.queen@bellaliant.ca>; <zeda.redden@bellaliant.ca>;
<karen.sheriff@bellaliant.ca>; <fred.crooks@bellaliant.ca>;
<sasha.irving@emera.com>; <James.Spurr@emera.com>
Cc: <martine.turcotte@bell.ca>; "rick.hancox"
<rick.hancox@nbsc-cvmnb.ca>; <bce@computershare.com>;
<david.rodenhiser@nspower.ca>; "Bernard.LeBlanc"
<Bernard.LeBlanc@gnb.ca>; "kelly. lamrock"<kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca>;
"Bernard. Theriault"<Bernard.Theriault@gnb.ca>;
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>; "securities"<securities@sec.state.ma.us>;
"terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>; "Edith. Cody-Rice"
<Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>; "oig"<oig@sec.gov>; "krisaustin"
<krisaustin@panb.org>; <David.ALWARD@gnb.ca>;
<ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>; "peacocrs"<peacocrs@gov.ns.ca>;
"brigdit.leger"<brigdit.leger@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>; "lapoinjr"
<lapoinjr@gov.ns.ca>; "Wayne.Lang"<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:42 AM
Subject: Yo George Cope I am still very curious if the lawyers Fred
Crooks and Maritine Turcotte have learned the meaning of the word
INTEGRITY yet?


----- Original Message -----
From: martine.turcotte@bell.ca
To: motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
Cc: bcecomms@bce.ca ; W-Five@ctv.ca
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:28 AM
Subject: RE: I am curious

Mr. Amos,

I confirm that I have received your documentation.

There is no need to send us a hard copy. As you have said yourself,
the documentation is very voluminous and after 3 days, we are still in
the process of printing it.

I have asked one of my lawyers to review it in my absence and report
back to me upon my return in the office. We will then provide you with
a reply.


Martine Turcotte
Chief Legal Officer / Chef principal du service juridique
BCE Inc. / Bell Canada
1000 de La Gauchetière ouest, bureau 3700
Montréal (Qc) H3B 4Y7

Tel: (514) 870-4637
Fax: (514) 870-4877
email: martine.turcotte@bell.ca


Executive Assistant / Assistante à la haute direction: Diane Valade

Tel: (514) 870-4638

email: diane.valade@bell.ca



-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos mailto:motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 6:12 AM
To: Turcotte, Martine (EX05453)
Cc: bcecomms@bce.ca; W-Five@ctv.ca
Subject: I am curious

Madam

I did not receive a response from you to the last email so I am not
certain if you received it. I must inform you that I will be closing
my briefcase in Yahoo for public view at the end of the week. I have a
great deal of material to add and I only wish certain parties to view
it. I opened it for you the other day as an act of good faith. Mr.
Pozen can check my work in the dockets of the various courts around
Boston they are a matter of Public Record my files are not. As you can
see by this and some following emails. I am very busy dealing with
criminal matters first before filing civil complaints in the USA. As I
told you when you called a lot has been happening. I have made a lot
of cops mad at me and I don't trust them a bit particularly after the
Police Commission is willing to check their work so i have been busy
watching my back and covering my butt. However that does not mean that
I have not thought about our conversation and was curious about a few
things.

I was glad to receive your call and impressed by the fact that you
were more than willing to receive the material and a copy of the
wiretap tape in particular. Your stated willingness to uphold the law
was a rare statement to me. However I was curious why you only
mentioned my voicemail to Mr. Pozen and not the email to your company
and the news program that it owns. Did they not inform you as well? If
they didn't I am not surprised because I have some other rather
interesting denials from the Media. the most interesting would have to
be from the PBS program called Frontline when I introduced its
producer Michael Sullivan to the US Attorney Michael J. Sullivan. Now
that is a story well worth W5 telling. Too bad they showed me their
ass. As a courtesy to you and a further act of good faith, I will not
forward this email to anyone else until after I return to the USA and
nothing has been resolved between BCE and I and I am compelled to name
it in my complaint. I would find it very hard to believe that Mr,
Pozen does not know everything he needs to know about me right now.

I had also called a lawyer, Steven Skurka who had a week long little
special on CTV . I had tried to inform him that I knew my rights his
assistant hollered at me. You from speaking to me yourself that I am
not a rude character. I found it too funny to be treated that way and
I had resolved to serve him this stuff byway of the local ATV Station
that had presented his smiling talking head to me. That is why I was
telling you that you could get this stuff from the local ATV station.
I found it quite strange that you did not rely on them to send it on
to you. Thus I must make an extra copy to comply with your request.

I know the date stamp on the forwarded email is incorrect but that is
because my old laptop goes to the first year in it when I boot up and
sometimes I am too busy or tired to bother changing it. However MSN
tracks it with the true date. Brad Smith and I have a bone to pick as
well and I have been checking his work rather closely since he ignored
my letter to him last year. His boss Bill Gates is gonna be very angry
and Brad Smith and Steve Balmer in the near future if I have anything
to do with it. If you do act ethically and immediately I will settle
with your company very cheaply in comparsion to the bottom lines of my
first two complaints. In fact I will be so impressed I will
immediatlely offer you a better job than the one you have now. Please
study the material I will provide you closely and ask me any thing you
wish.

I will do as I promised and send the material you requested as soon as
I can put it all together. Right now I am on the move and far away
from my printer. Is the following your correct address? Perhaps you
should consider sending someone to the my meeting with the Police
Commission in Fredericton next week in order to hear me speak of these
matters to law enforcement before I return to the USA. Once I do
return there I will serve the Mr. Pozen the material as promised and
call him to testify in my pending trial. The following emails should
explain some of my concerns to you. My wife will be in Canada next
week as well to pick up our kids. I will allow you to speak to her if
you wish. She has had a nervous breakdown over the legal crap and I do
have her Durable Power of Attorney pursuant to M.G.L. 201 B. Mr. Pozen
can ask Robert S. Creedon Jr. about that document. I argued it with
him before the entire Judicuary Commitee on Sept. 18th 2003.

I will call you in a minute to make certain that you get this and the
following emails.

David R. Amos

Martine Turcotte

1000 de la Gauchetiere Ouest
Floor 41
Montreal, Quebec H3B 58H Canada
Tel: (514) 870-4637
Fax: (514) 870-4877

For the Record I gave the Irving "Rag called the Gleaner" in Fat Fred
City and the CBC dudes in Toronto copies of the following lawsuits in
the USA in 2002 long before I gave some material to Bellglobemedia
byway of their W-Five yo yos. Clearly nobody knows how to read if they
don't think I ain't sued folks before EH?

Ask W-Five or their lawyers if I am a liar or not. Better yet ask
Stevey Boy Murphy or Andy Campbell in Fat Fred City if they dare to
chaleenge the truth. If all else fails and you bloggers seek counsel
you can trust why not ask Chucky Leblanc or your "Blogger General"
T.J. Burke he received the same documents on June 24th, 2004 the day
Danny boy Busierres and the Fat Fred City Finest attempted to banish
me from the LEG but it ain't worked out to well for them yet EH Chucky
Leblanc? However chucky was quick to report that I was banished the
following day and ain't said apeep about it since. Who to you think
told him not to talk about it? Kelly lamrock, T.J. Burke. the Irvings
or all three?

FYI W-Five took an interest in my matters at about the same time
Chretien's underling was calling Bush a moron.(I oftern call myself an
oxymoron Methinks somebody has been studing my words EH?) I supported
Chretein's underling's thinking in two affidavits demanding judgements
by default filed in the following dockets on December 12th, 2002.

The following day Cardinal Law (Methinks that is why chucky hates me
so) quit Beantown and ran off to the Holy See. Years later he helped
pick the latest Pope(a former Hitler Youth who is making his bones
with the croooked little Georgey Boy Bush Jr. right now in the USA.)

Never Forget the Queen is the protector of the Faith of the Church of
England . She would not allow her family's assests to be stolen and
given to the catholic Church. Why should I act any different?

----- Original Message -----
From: W-FIVE Viewer Mail
To: David Amos
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: possble story


Dear Mr. Amos,

I would like to thank you for your email to W-FIVE, sorry for the
delay in responding.

We review every email and story idea that we receive here at W-FIVE
and give it serious consideration. Your email has been forwarded to
our executive and senior producer for review. If we are interested in
pursuing your idea further, you will be contacted by one of our
researchers.

Thanks again for your input. Your interest in our program is much
appreciated.

Sincerely,

Lisa-Marie

Production Coordinator

W-FIVE

-----Original Message-----
From: a friend of David Amos' email account
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:28 PM
To: W-FIVE@ctv.ca
Subject: possble story


I am a Canadian Citizen who thus far, as a plaintiff, has two Lawsuits
in the US District Court of Massachucetts they are numbered 02-11686-
RGS and 02-11687-RGS.

They were removed to that Court from the Norfolk Superior Court by the
US Attorney Michael J. Sullivan very improperly. However they shall
remain there because of my status as a Canandian Citizen. Judge Sterns
has not even held a Conference about the matters because he likely
does not want to hear the matter because I have presented all Members
of the Bar with their worst fear of a catch 22 problem.

Accordinging to law he is late. I have complained of 47 defendants 34
of whom are State Defendants( the Attorney General, The Commission of
Judicial Conduct Board of Bar Overseers etc) and 3 are Federal
Treasury Agents. Some of the defendants are over two months late in
their answer to the Summons.

The smallest suit amounts to 188 million dollars in the form of
relief. There is a lot to these matters and too much to briefly
explain. But in a nutshell my wife's Aunt, who is buried beside Rose
Kennedy, left my wife some money. It was stolen by her relatives in
executing the estate. No news there. But the crooks are very well
connected politically and every part of the old crony network in
Boston covered for them.

The crook and our cousin, Charles J. Kickham Jr of the Kickham Law
Office on Beacon St, has been past President of Bar Associations. He
has sat on the Board of Governors of Harvard Law School etc. I have
given much information to many members of the press who have simply
ignored some interesting facts.

What should be somewhat newsworthy is how far a wild colonial boy has
come in prosecuting Pro Se the most profund Yankee carpetbaggers. My
next two lawsuits Under title 18 are wickedly righteous. I have left
one copy of much information in Saint John New Brunswick at a lawyer's
Office, Mosher and Chedore 33 Charlotte St if some one wishes to view
them. I can be reached at this Cell number 506 434- 1379

David R. Amos

https://service.halifaxchamber.com/directory/1/contact.jsp?CustomerID=112565

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rob-magazine/a-man-called-cope/article1482122/

http://www.straightstocks.com/investing-lessons/an-insider%E2%80%99s-perspective-on-george-cope-ceo-of-bell-canada-bce-with-simon-avery-of-the-globe-and-mail/

http://www.bce.ca/en/aboutbce/executiveteams/bellcanada/cope/

http://www.bce.ca/en/aboutbce/executiveteams/bellcanada/turcotte/


--- On Tue, 10/5/10, David Amos <myson333@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: David Amos <myson333@yahoo.com>
Subject: This email is to support what I said yesterday
To: action@ecologyaction.ca, gretchenf@sierraclub.ca, "tracy"
<tracy@jatam.org>, dgiroux@tlb.sympatico.ca, mjgorman@ns.sympatico.ca
Received: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 3:45 PM








--- On Sat, 10/2/10, David Amos <myson333@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: David Amos <myson333@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Here is some more info for the PC wannabe MLAs to chew on
EH Wally Stiles?
To: Sheldon_Clare@shaw.ca
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 8:07 AM








--- On Mon, 9/27/10, David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: David Amos <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Here is some more info for the PC wannabe MLAs to chew on EH
Wally Stiles?
To: carl@carlkillen.ca, info@craigleonard.ca, sherry38@nbnet.nb.ca,
vote@mcblais.ca, fredalbertpc@hotmail.com, yvonbon@ca.inter.net,
wm@aibn.com, martinecoulombe55@hotmail.com, danfour@myginch.com,
oldmaison@yahoo.com, nbpolitico@gmail.com, spinks08@hotmail.com,
nb.premier@gmail.com, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, info@philipchiasson.com,
janice.brun@rogers.com, dfortunat@yahoo.com, brucehickey1@hotmail.com,
elijos@bellaliant.net, dmaltais@rogers.com, bathurst@nancymckay.ca,
greg.byrne@gnb.ca, shawn.graham@gnb.ca, kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca,
Bernard.LeBlanc@gnb.ca, Brian.kenny@gnb.ca, rick.doucet@gnb.ca,
rick.brewer@gnb.ca, donald.arseneault@gnb.ca, rick.miles@gnb.ca,
wally.stiles@gnb.ca, victor.boudreau@gnb.ca,
rchedore@mosherchedore.ca, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca,
Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 7:47 AM










---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:30:01 -0300
Subject: RE: Email from the BHP Billiton Chairman
To: David.ALWARD@gnb.ca, jacques_poitras@cbc.ca, cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca,
tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com, nmiller@corridor.ca,
bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, atlbf@nb.aibn.com, akapoor@globeandmail.com,
nmacadam@globeandmail.com, vepp@globeandmail.com
Cc: fpletters@nationalpost.com, jlsteve@ucalgary.ca,
"oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, danfour
<danfour@myginch.com>, "shawn. graham"<shawn.graham@gnb.ca>,
"jack.macdougall"<jack.macdougall@greenparty.ca>, "Jack.Keir2"
<Jack.Keir2@gnb.ca>, krisaustin <krisaustin@panb.org>
Here is something for some students out west to ponder ASAP EH David Alward?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash/ottawa-to-train-sharp-eye-on-potash-bids/article1706105/
http://haskayne.ucalgary.ca/about
James Stevenson
Senior Communications Manager
External Relations
403-210-6308
jlsteve@ucalgary.ca
http://haskayne.ucalgary.ca/community/funddev/haskayne
http://www.haskayne.com/bio.html
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/09/13/the-potash-debate-block-the-bid/#more-5062
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Collins, Susan J (COSEC)"<Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:23:12 +1000
Subject: Email to BHP Billiton Chairman's
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

Please find attached a letter from Mr Jac Nasser, Chairman of BHP
Billiton
Susan Collins
Company Secretariat
BHP Billiton | 180 Lonsdale St | Melbourne Vic 3000 |Australia
T: +61 3 9609 2654 | M: +61 427 713 994 | F: +61 3 9609 3290
E: susan.j.collins@bhpbilliton.comjane.mcaloon@bhpbilliton.com

>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:36 AM
> To: pr@potashcorp.com; Podwika@potashcorp.com;
> fosterd@bennettjones.ca; corporate.relations@potashcorp.com;
> lgold.blcanada@b-l.com; shawn. graham; David.ALWARD@gnb.ca;
> krisaustin; jacques_poitras@cbc.ca; cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca;
> tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com; nmiller@corridor.ca;
> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca; atlbf@nb.aibn.com; akapoor@globeandmail.com;
> nmacadam@globeandmail.com; vepp@globeandmail.com;
> potash@mackenziepartners.com; contactus@kingsdaleshareholder.com;
> rick.hancox; Bernard.LeBlanc; Liebenberg, Andre;
> mclellana@bennettjones.com; MooreR; danfour; oldmaison@yahoo.com;
> Harris, Brendan; Dean.Buzza; Gilles. Blinn
> Cc: wcoady; michel.desneiges@sade-els.org; producers@stu.ca;
> WaterWarCrimes; Penny Bright; tony; Nasser, Jacques
> Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
> of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
> you people buy much stock in their stock eh?
>
> With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
> issues again about  theexploitation of our natural resources to a
> bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
> attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
> McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
> did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
> conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
> Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
> now)
>
> Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
> with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
> sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
> simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
> have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
>

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--- On Mon, 9/13/10, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:


From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Subject: How is your conscience and sense of ethical conduct doing now ladies?
To: Jane.McAloon@bhpbilliton.com, Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com
Cc: "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"<william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"Dean.Buzza"<Dean.Buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:57 PM


Jane McAloon (Group Company Secretary) BEc (Hons), LLB, GDipGov, FCIS
Term of office: Jane McAloon was appointed Group Company Secretary in
July 2007 and joined the BHP Billiton Group in September 2006 as
Company Secretary for BHP Billiton Limited.
Skills and experience: Prior to joining BHP Billiton, Jane McAloon
held the position of Company Secretary and Group Manager External and
Regulatory Services in the Australian Gas Light Company. She
previously held various State and Commonwealth government positions,
including Director General of the NSW Ministry of Energy and Utilities
and Deputy Director General for the NSW Cabinet Office, as well as
working in private legal practice. She is a Fellow of the Institute of
Chartered Secretaries.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Collins, Susan J (COSEC)"<Susan.J.Collins@bhpbilliton.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:23:12 +1000
Subject: Email to BHP Billiton Chairman's
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com


Please find attached a letter from Mr Jac Nasser, Chairman of BHP
Billiton

Susan Collins
Company Secretariat
BHP Billiton | 180 Lonsdale St | Melbourne Vic 3000 |Australia
T: +61 3 9609 2654 | M: +61 427 713 994 | F: +61 3 9609 3290
E: susan.j.collins@bhpbilliton.comjane.mcaloon@bhpbilliton.com>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:36 AM
> To: pr@potashcorp.com; Podwika@potashcorp.com;
> fosterd@bennettjones.ca; corporate.relations@potashcorp.com;
> lgold.blcanada@b-l.com; shawn. graham; David.ALWARD@gnb.ca;
> krisaustin; jacques_poitras@cbc.ca; cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca;
> tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com; nmiller@corridor.ca;
> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca; atlbf@nb.aibn.com; akapoor@globeandmail.com;
> nmacadam@globeandmail.com; vepp@globeandmail.com;
> potash@mackenziepartners.com; contactus@kingsdaleshareholder.com;
> rick.hancox; Bernard.LeBlanc; Liebenberg, Andre;
> mclellana@bennettjones.com; MooreR; danfour; oldmaison@yahoo.com;
> Harris, Brendan; Dean.Buzza; Gilles. Blinn
> Cc: wcoady; michel.desneiges@sade-els.org; producers@stu.ca;
> WaterWarCrimes; Penny Bright; tony; Nasser, Jacques
> Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
> of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
> you people buy much stock in their stock eh?
>
> With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
> issues again about  theexploitation of our natural resources to a
> bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
> attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
> McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
> did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
> conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
> Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
> now)
>
> Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
> with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
> sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
> simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
> have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
>


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With ANOTHER election in the near future I see no need to explain my
issues again about  theexploitation of our natural resources to a
bunch of sneaky lawyers.(everyboy shoul checkout the pdf hereto
attache) especially our former Deputy Prime Minister Lanslide Annie
McLelllan an the RCMP thought they knew everything seven years ago and
did nothing let alone call me back just like you an your many
conservative cohorts NEVER did EH Brucy Baby Northrup? (902 800 0369
Notice my new contact number? You an the RCMP can forget Werner Bock's
now)

Clearly there is no need for politicians to try to be confidential
with mean old me when the Globe and Mail loves spiling the beans
sometimes ou woul think those unethical journlists woul know that
simple truths spoken amongst common folk about corrupt politicians
have a good habit of coming to the surface sooner or later anyway EH?

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

http://www.bennettjones.com/people_item.aspx?person=821

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/

http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf

http://www.potashcorp.com/media/POT_2010_Letter_from_BHP_Billiton's_Chairman.pdf

http://www.bhpbilliton.com/bb/aboutUs/companyOverview/ourBoard.jsp

http://www.potashcorp.com/about/management_board/senior_management/podwika/

http://www.corridor.ca/media/2010-press-releases/20100510.html

http://www.bennettjones.com/people_item.aspx?person=712&name=foster&pg=&office=

http://www.robmooremp.com/081908.htm

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/05/07/nb-penobsquis-water-lawyer-1056.html?ref=rss

http://www.newbrunswickbeacon.ca/2010/03/risk-and-reward-when-rural-life-meets-economic-development/5666

http://www.vancouverislandwaterwatchcoalition.ca/go456a/FRACKING

http://www.elements.nb.ca/theme/ecojustice/JeanPaul/JeanPaul.htm

http://www.nbmediacoop.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1133:penobsquis-residents-seek-compensation-for-damages&catid=82:environment&Itemid=197

From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Subject: Attn Rob Moir I have read some of your work perhaps you
should read something from years ago
To: fundyroyalndp@gmail.com, Moore.R@parl.gc.ca,
jacques_poitras@cbc.ca, cjcw@nbnet.nb.ca,
tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca,
Layton.J@parl.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, bbixby@burnslev.com,
david@lutz.nb.ca, drosenblatt@burnslev.com,
markwright4mp@politician.com
Cc: fosterd@bennettjones.ca, corporate.relations@potashcorp.com,
lgold.blcanada@b-l.com, fbinhct@leo.gov
Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 9:46 PM


First things first meet Lenny Gold, Dougy Foster and Joey Podwika. You
can be certain that these wicked bastards know exactly who I am and
are no doubt quite nervous that the Feds have not figured out a way to
shut me up yet.

Everybody knows that far away corporate lawyers such as these three
stooges have been making the big score off us dumb Maritimers forever
and a day and have been laughing their nasty arses off at us all the
way to their buddies' bank. They appear to fear only one Maritimer and
that is yours truly. Ask them if I am liar or not as I speak of the
Bank Fraud Tax Fraud, Securities Fraud and Murders that you are afraid
to talk about. Shawn Graham should know everthing he partied hardy
with my G.A.L. Brian Bixby's Law firm in Beantown one year ago and I
effected an introduction with the lawyer Leonard Gold because that
very dumb Maritimer came to Beantown to talk to many evil Yankees ten
times more worldly wise than Shawny Baby ever could be.

Your laments Bobby Baby about lost water really rot my socks. You
should know I covered that base years ago and everybody just ran away
scared. Ask the Minister Larry Cannon why I laughed when he gave out a
little federal gold just before Bernie Lord had the writ dropped in
2006 in the provincial election. It was very telling thing just like
all the money being passed out right now.

I noticed that you and all you NDP pals ignored the fact that I ran in
that election as well as the Fed one and the one in Nova Scotia
earlier that year. Yea I saw you and Pat Hannratty ducking  out the
back just as I walked in that night in January of 2006. Why you didn't
answer my friend Jack's letter either spoke to your personal integrity
EH? If Rob Moore or none of the Conservatives on the Hill faraway
won't talk to you just ask the lawyer Smith in Saint John the boss of
the NB Securities Commission if I didn't raise a little Hell while he
filled the other lawyer Nicholson's boots in PUB just long enough to
cram the pipeline through to the trunk while the election was on and I
was intervening in the pipeline matter in Saint John at the same time
and Norm Miller and his lawyer ignored my arguments but read my words
about it all on the web all the same.

Better yet why not have some fun and ask the very strange PCS dudes in
Sussex why they had my photo posted at the gate and the RCMP were to
be called if I made an appearance there while I was running against
your pal John Carty in Fat Fred City. Your clue to their malice is UBS
and another lawyer named Dave Aufhauser whom I have been battling with
for six long years. Do you even know who he is? Rest assured Lenny,
Dougy and Joey do.

Whereas you trust the words of the very malicious CBC or the Irvings
and not mine read what the CBC were saying one year ago. Then read
what the local Irving rag wrote about me four god damned years ago.

For the record Bobby Baby I still remember you commenting on the
trouble I was having with the Feds so that my minor son could return
to the USA to comfort his mother and how little milk of human kindness
you have had in your greedy little PHD soul ever since. Can ya tell I
don't like you not even a little bit?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2007/03/27/nb-mccullyfield.html

Read on Teacher pay particular attention to my words about oil and
gas.and crossborder public corruption. For the record I have always
considered the water in Penobsquis a federal matter concerning the NEB
and if they ignore me then maybe i would take it up in the Federal
Court. It won't go anywhere though if Maritimers don't finally wise up
start listening to me.


FYI I have started to upload some of my ducument for the public to
view. They can be found here and there will be a great deal more to
follow as my time allows.

http://www.scribd.com/people/view/554842-david-raymond-amos

This Maritimer Danny Boy Fitzgeral who is studying for his PHD in
Holland made several interesting blogs about me as he attacked my
integrity. In the end methinks I may have turned him my way and in
return I left his school out of my battles.

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/3rd-part-political-runs-in-maritimes.html

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-1b.html

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-2.html

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-3.html

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/canadian-action-party-cap-qsls.html

Perhaps you should study them sometime EH Teacher? You should take
careful notice that college degrees mean less than nothing to me. Just
like any true Maritimer it is fighters, foresters, farmers and
fishermen I admire not rich snots that do not understand the meaning
of hard work. That said it does appear that Danny Boy does work very
hard on his blog. I do know how long such things take and his blog is
a fine and as fancy as anyones and constantly updated. I particularly
apprciate the fact he leaves his comments open without moderation.

Also for the record I signed your Fake Left friends' petition.

Penobsquis Deserves Safe Water

98  Fran Oliver There is no excuse for this situation. A responsible
provincial government and a responsible corporation would never allow
local families to bear the financial and social burden, likely
resulting from a provincial mining operation, while government and
corporation choke on huge profits.

99  David Raymond Amos Ask Garth Moore why my picture is posted at the
gate while I ran for Parliament will ya?

My friends tell me tha the Photo the PCS dudes had posted as some sort
of criminal the RCMP were watching out for was clipped from the pages
of the Kings County Record that contained the following articles.

The following email and two deleted blogs can be found within one
pigheaded Maritimer's blog about government injustice. After the
Irvings had his pal's Chucky Leblanc' former blog wiped out I had to
tease and torture him into doing the right thing and allowing just one
of my comments to stand. Some much for Freedom on Speech on the
Internet when even Maritime bloggers are unethical  EH teacher?

For the record only the Gypsy and Danny Boy fitzgerald have allowed
all of my comments to stand the test of time and ethics. Thus far so I
must give credit where credit is due. Your chosen profession such as
it is should at least understand that EH Mr. Moir?

Here is my last post in the blogs tonight. Obviously I do not pretend
to be somebody I am not. N'est Pas?

http://gypsy-blog.blogspot.com/2008/04/from-student-to-city-councillor.html

Veritas Vincit

David Raymond Amos

The following email can be found here
http://govinjustice.blogspot.com/2008/04/tjburke-letter-to-me.html

---- Original Message -----
From: "McKnight, Gisele"McKnight.Gisele@kingscorecord.com
To: lcampenella@ledger.com
Cc:motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:53 PM
Subject: David Amos

Hello Lisa,

David Amos asked me to contact you. I met him last June after he became
an independent (not representing any political party) candidate in our federal
election that was held June 28. He was a candidate in our constituency of
Fundy (now called  Fundy-Royal).

I wrote a profile story about him, as I did all other candidates. That
story appeared in the Kings County Record June 22. A second story, written
by one of my reporters, appeared on the same date, which was a report on
the candidates' debate held June 18.

As I recall David Amos came last of four candidates in the election.
The winner got 14,997 votes, while Amos got 358.

I have attached the two stories that appeared, as well as a photo
taken by reporter Erin Hatfield during the debate. I couldn't find the photo
that ran, but this one is very similar.


A1-debate A1-amos,David for MP 24.doc debate 2.JPG

Gisele McKnight editor
Kings County Record
Sussex, New Brunswick
Canada
506-433-1070


Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd

By Erin Hatfield

"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your
world is all screwed up, rearrange it."

The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at
the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to
watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if
unofficial, theme song for the debate.

The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as
they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn.
Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue
chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent
left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty,
mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards
the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.

The debate was moderated by Leo Melanson of CJCW Radio and was
organized by the Sussex Valley Jaycees. Candidates wereasked a barrage
of questions bypanelists Gisele McKnight of the Kings County Record
and Lisa Spencer of CJCW.

Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates
responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the
exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices.
Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each
other on their answers and criticizing eachothers' party leaders.
Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the
questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of comic
relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in
response to the question of thenational gun registry. "Nobody's
getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."

Herron, a Progressive Conservative MP turned Liberal, veered from his
party'splatform with regard to gun control. "It was ill advised but
well intentioned," Herron said. "No matter what side of the house I am
on, I'm voting against it." Pat Hanratty agreed there were better
places for the gun registry dollars to be spent.Recreational hunters
shouldn't have been penalized by this gun registry," he said.

The gun registry issues provoked the tempers of Herron and Moore. At
one point Herron got out of his seat and threw a piece of paper in
front of Moore. "Read that," Herron said to Moore, referring to the
voting record of Conservative Party leader Steven Harper. According to
Herron, Harper voted in favour of the registry on the first and second
readings of the bill in 1995. "He voted against it when it counted, at
final count," Moore said. "We needa government with courage to
register sex offenders rather than register the property of law
abiding citizens."

The crowd was vocal throughout the evening, with white haired men and
women heckling from the Conservative side. "Shut up John," one woman
yelled. "How can you talk about selling out?" a man yelled whenHerron
spoke about his fear that the Conservatives are selling farmers out.

Although the Liberal side was less vocal, Kings East MLA Leroy
Armstrong weighed in at one point. "You're out of touch," Armstrong
yelled to Moore from the crowd when the debate turned to the cost of
post-secondary education. Later in the evening Amos challenged
Armstrong to a public debate of their own. "Talk is cheap. Any time,
anyplace," Armstrong responded.

As the crowd made its way out of the building following the debate,
candidates worked the room. They shook hands with well-wishers and
fielded questions from spectators-all part of the decision-making
process for the June 28 vote.

Cutline – David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his
favourite possessions—motorcycles.

McKnight/KCR

The Unconventional Candidate

David Amos Isn't Campaigning For Your Vote, But….

By Gisele McKnight

FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his
wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone
that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."

Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.

The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife
and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from
running for office in Canada.

One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail
to meet Elections Canada requirements.

When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his
favourite place to do so—Fundy.

Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his
dissatisfaction with politicians.

"I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he
said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."

The journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in
1987. He woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he
needed to change his life.

"I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that
sometimes in midlife."

So Amos, who'd lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners
motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952
Panhead motorcycle.

"Annie and I rode around for awhile (three years, to be exact)
experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said. "This is how you
renew your faith in mankind – you help anyone you can, you never ask
for anything, but you take what they offer."

For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs
and conversation all over North America.

Since he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son
and a daughter and become a house-husband – Mr. Mom, as he calls
himself.

He also describes himself in far more colourful terms—a motorcyclist
rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed
individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a proud
Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."

Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.

"But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said.
"It's alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"

Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.

"I didn't appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door
interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can
call me. I'm not going to drive my opinions down their throats."

And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.

"I won't take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It's
not about money. It goes against what I'm fighting about."

What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood,
the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to
name a few.

"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing,
farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm
death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it
(NAFTA) out the window.

NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an
easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.

Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.

"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me,
especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right.
Don't necessarily vote for me, but vote."

Although…if you're going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have
your X by his name.

"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and
say, 'what the hell.'"

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:38:35 -0300
Subject: Fwd: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack
of ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before
you people buy much stock in their stock eh?
To: henrybanta <henrybanta@aol.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:47:02 -0300
Subject: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack of
ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before you
people buy much stock in their stock eh?
To: Scott.Espenshade@bhpbilliton.com, ir <ir@potashcorp.com>

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/

http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:47:02 -0300
Subject: PotashCorp should mention my concerns about their lack of
ethical conduct and actions against me to your shareholers before you
people buy much stock in their stock eh?
To: Scott.Espenshade@bhpbilliton.com, ir <ir@potashcorp.com>

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/potash-corp-soars-bhp-bid-rejected/article1675353/

http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00828/BHPrelease_828561a.pdf

> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "STAINTON-JAMES, Angela"<STAINTONJAMESA@parliament.uk>
> > To: "'David Amos'"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:50 AM
> > Subject: RE: So what is the Conservative MP Hugh Robertson gonna do
> > about people in his riding torturing people on the Internet? In Canada
> > such slander is a crime EH Vic Toews?
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear David
> >
> > Thank you for your e-mail addressed to Hugh Robertson. Your e-mail
> > has come through to Hugh's constituency office when, clearly, you need
> > his Department. Sadly, I do not have an e-mail address for him but
> > the telephone number of the Department of Media Culture and Sport is
> > 020 7211 6200 and they should be able to provide you with the
> > necessary information.
> >
> > Thank you for writing to Hugh and if you have any problem at all
> > please do not hesitate to come back to me.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Angela Stainton-James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 29 May 2010 23:24
> > To: STAINTON-JAMES, Angela; toewsv1
> > Cc: RHar100@aol.com; Gilles. Blinn; gilles.moreau; roger. gillies;
> > rogerduguay21
> > Subject: So what is the Conservative MP Hugh Robertson gonna do about
> > people in his riding torturing people on the Internet? In Canada such
> > slander is a crime EH Vic Toews?
> >
> > Need I say that "Satan's Crack Dealer" and his many evil little fans
> > atacked the wrong pissed of Maritimer in Youtube? Scroll down read
> > real slow and then call your lawyer or the cops Mr Roberson
> >
> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6074892060
> > Richard Coughlan
> > Faversham, United Kingdom
> > email RHar100@aol.com
> > Website:http://youtube.com/user/coughlan666
> > Phone 07935333407
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:46:20 -0300
> > Subject: Mr. Finkelstein I just discovered you and your concerns today
> > perhaps we should have a long talk ASAP? i an be reached at 506 485
> > 2578 for a couple of days
> > To: normfinkelstein@gmail.com
> >
> > Need I say that I am hounoured that this evil person hates me/
> >
> > http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/05/americans-have-never-guarantteed.html
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:23:46 -0300
> > Subject: Lets see if the Russians will understand Fwd: We just talked
> > this what I was trying to relate to the President of Mexico while he
> > was in Canada
> > To: info@rusembassy.ca
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:19:51 -0300
> > Subject: We just talked this what I was trying to relate to the
> > President of Mexico while he was in Canada
> > To: atperez_lee <atperez_lee@yahoo.com.mx>
> >
> > The easiest way to check something about my concerns quickly is to go
> > to the US Senate Banking Committee hearing on November 18th and 20th
> > 2003 and notice the webcasts and transcripts of a very important
> > hearing about the financial industry are missing. Please notice the
> > crook Eliot Spitzer testified on the 20th
> >
> > http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.List&Month=0&Year=2003
> >
> >
> > http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=102e41a1-f540-4ce5-a701-b6d09b7606b1
> >
> > http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
> >
> > Now look for Spitzer's answer to me on page 13 of this pdf file
> >
> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
> >
> > The easy answer to your next question is YES I am the the guy nobody
> > will talk about. so perhaps you should for the benefit of your
> > concerns and pocketbook. (Google David Amos and Wendy Olsen to see how
> > far down the rabbbit hole I can take anyone)
> >
> > I explained some of it a year ago on many talk shows and nobody cared.
> > Listen here if you wish then go figure whom you should trust.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJGDSlnyKro
> >
> > If nothing else have laugh at my espense and Google this expression
> > "Nobody will say my name"
> >
> >
> > Here is just one of the many reasons why
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:21 AM
> > To: David Amos; USANYS-MADOFF; Litt, Marc (USANYS)
> > Cc: webo; vasilescua@sec.gov; friedmani@sec.gov; krishnamurthyp@sec.gov
> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> >
> > Thank you for your response.
> >
> > Wendy Olsen
> > Victim Witness Coordinator
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:48 AM
> > To: USANYS-MADOFF; Olsen, Wendy (USANYS); Litt, Marc (USANYS)
> > Cc: webo; vasilescua@sec.gov; friedmani@sec.gov; krishnamurthyp@sec.gov
> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> >
> > Ms Olsen
> >
> > Thank you for keeping me informed.
> >
> > Yes unseal all my emails with all their attachments immediately and
> > make certain that the US Attorny's office finally practices full
> > disclosurement as to who I am and what my concerns are as per the Rule
> > of Law within a purported democracy.
> >
> > As you folks all well know I am not a shy man and I have done nothing
> > wrong. It appears to me that bureacratic people only use the right to
> > privacy of others when it suits their malicious ends in order to
> > protect their butts from impreacment, litigation and prosecution.
> >
> > The people in the US Attorney's Office and the SEC etc are very well
> > aware that I protested immediately to everyone I could think of when
> > the instant I knew that my correspondences went under seal and Madoff
> > pled guilty so quickly and yet another cover up involing my actions
> > was under full steam. Everybody knows that.the US Government has been
> > trying to keep my concerns about the rampant public corruption a
> > secret for well over seven long years. However now that a lot of
> > poeple and their countries in general are losing a lot of money people
> > are beginning to remember just exactly who I am and what i did
> > beginning over seven years ago..
> >
> > Veritas Vincit
> > David Raymond Amos
> > 506 756 8687
> >
> > P.S. For the record Obviously I pounced on these Yankee bastards as
> > soon as the newsrag in Boston published this article on the web last
> > night.
> >
> > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1162354&f
> > ormat=&page=2&listingType=biz#articleFull
> >
> > Notice that Nester just like everyone else would not say my name? It
> > is because my issues surrounding both Madoff and are NOT marketing
> > timing They are as you all well know money laundering, fraud,
> > forgery, perjury, securites fraud, tax fraud, Bank fraud, illegal
> > wiretappping and Murder amongst other very serious crimes.
> >
> > "SEC spokesman John Nester dismissed similarities between Markopolos
> > and Scannell's cases as "not a valid comparison."
> >
> > He said the SEC determined the market-timing by Putnam clients that
> > Scannell reported didn't violate federal law. Nester said the SEC only
> > acted after another tipster alleged undisclosed market-timing by some
> > Putnam insiders.
> >
> > Scannell, now a crusader for SEC reforms, isn't surprised the agency
> > is in hot water again.
> >
> > Noting that several top SEC officials have gone on to high-paying
> > private-sector jobs, he believes hopes for future employment impact
> > investigations. "It's a distinct disadvantage to make waves before you
> > enter the private sector," Scannell said."
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/30/09, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
> > SDNY
> > To: NesterJ@sec.gov, letterstoeditor@bostonherald.com, "oig"
> > <oig@sec.gov>, Thunter@tribune.com, david@davidmyles.com,
> > ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca, "Dan Fitzgerald"<danf@danf.net>
> > Cc: dsheehan@bakerlaw.com, dspelfogel@bakerlaw.com,
> > mc@whistleblowers.org, gkachroo@mccarter.com,
> > david.straube@accenture.com, gurdip.s.sahota@accenture.com,
> > benjamin_mcmurray@ao.uscourts.gov, bob_burke@ao.uscourts.gov
> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 10:00 PM
> >
> > Need I say BULLSHIT?
> >
> > http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1162354&f
> > ormat=&page=2&listingType=biz#articleFull
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:03:13 -0300
> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
> > SDNY
> > To: Russ.Stanton@latimes.com, meredith.goodman@latimes.com,
> > ninkster@navigantconsulting.com, dgolub@sgtlaw.com
> > Cc: firstselectmanffld@town.fairfield.ct.us,
> > editor@whatsupfairfield.com, info@csiworld.org, jacques_poitras
> > <jacques_poitras@cbc.ca>
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:40:55 -0300
> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> > To: gmacnamara@town.fairfield.ct.us, MartiK1 <MartiK1@parl.gc.ca>,
> > "Paul. Harpelle"<Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>, Jason Keenan
> > <jason.keenan@icann.org>, Kandalaw <Kandalaw@mindspring.com>
> > Cc: info@grahamdefense.org, fbinhct@leo.gov
> >
> > From: "Peck,Dave"<DPeck@town.fairfield.ct.us>
> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:32:32 -0400
> > Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT
> > INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> >
> > I will be unavailable until 4/1/09.
> >
> > Deputy Chief MacNamara will be in charge while I am away.
> >
> > He can be reached at 254-4831 or email him at
> > gmacnamara@town.fairfield.ct.us
> >
> > I will not be checking emails or cell phone messages.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Chief Dave Peck
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:32:18 -0300
> > Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> > To: dpeck@town.fairfield.ct.us, edit@ctpost.com, bresee@courant.com
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:19:35 -0300
> > Subject: RE: USANYS-MADOFF FW: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
> > ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> > To: dtnews@telegraph.co.uk
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: USANYS-MADOFF
> > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:06 PM
> > To: DAVID.RAYMOND.AMOS@GMAIL.COM
> > Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
> >
> > In United States v. Bernard L. Madoff, 09 Cr. 213 (DC), the Court
> > received a request from NBC and ABC to unseal all correspondence from
> > victims that has been submitted in connection with the case.
> >
> > This includes your email to the Government.
> >
> > If the correspondence from victims is unsealed, the victim's personal
> > identifying information including name, address, telephone number and
> > email address (to the extent it was included on the correspondence)
> > will become public. The Government must submit a response to the
> > request by NBC and ABC by Tuesday, March 31, 2009. Please let us know
> > whether you consent to the full disclosure of your correspondence, or
> > whether you wish to have your correspondence remain sealed for privacy
> > or other reasons.
> > If you wish to have your correspondence remain sealed, please let us
> > know the reason. We will defend your privacy to the extent that we
> > can. Thank you.
> >
> > I looks like the US attorney in New York finally has to unseal my
> > emails that you dudes have been sitting on for quite some time for no
> > reason I will ever understand other than you are just a bunch of
> > chickenshits.
> >
> > I know NBC, ABC, your blogger buddies or any other media wacko will
> > never say my name but the pissed off folks that lost a lot of money
> > with Bernie Baby just may ask how the hell I am EH?
> >
> > Veritas Vincit
> > David Raymond Amos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:48:50 -0300
> > Subject: Fwd: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
> > To: Marc.Litt@usdoj.gov
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:29:42 -0300
> > Subject: Fwd: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
> > To: PChavkin@mintz.com
> > Cc: webo <webo@xplornet.com>
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)"<Wendy.Olsen@usdoj.gov>
> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:08:04 -0400
> > Subject: RE: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
> > To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> >
> > On March 10, 2009, the Honorable Denny Chin provided the following
> > guidance for victims who wish to be heard at the plea proceeding on
> > March 12, 2009 at 10:00 a.m.:
> >
> > Judge Chin stated that there are two issues that the Court will
> > consider at the hearing: (1) whether to accept a guilty plea from the
> > defendant to the eleven-count Criminal Information filed by the
> > Government, which provides for a maximum sentence of 150 years'
> > imprisonment; and (2) whether the defendant should be remanded or
> > released on conditions of bail, if the Court accepts a guilty plea.
> > Judge Chin also stated that, at the hearing on March 12, 2009, he will
> > conduct a plea allocution of the defendant and then will announce
> > whether the Court intends to accept the plea. At that time, the Court
> > will solicit speakers who disagree with the Court's intended ruling.
> >
> > Assuming the defendant pleads guilty and his plea is accepted by
> > the Court, the Court intends to allow the Government and defense
> > counsel to speak on the issue of bail. The Court will then announce
> > its intended ruling on that issue. The Court will then invite
> > individuals who disagree with the proposed ruling on bail to be heard.
> >
> > The Court noted that there will be opportunity for victims to be
> > heard in the future on the subjects of sentencing, forfeiture and
> > restitution in advance of any sentencing of the defendant. The Court
> > also noted that it is not appropriate for victims who wish to speak
> > concerning sentencing issues to be heard at the March 12, 2009
> > proceeding.
> >
> > A link to the a transcript of the March 10, 2009 Court hearing can
> > be found on the website of the United States Attorney's Office for the
> > Southern District of New York:
> >
> > http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nys
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:56 AM
> > To: usanys.madoff@usdoj.gov
> > Subject: FW: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and
> > KPMG etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 12:58 PM
> > To: horwitzd@dicksteinshapiro.com; Nardoza, Robert (USANYE);
> > USAMA-Media (USAMA); Olsen, Wendy (USANYS)
> > Cc: oig
> > Subject: Trust that whatever covert deal that Bernie Madoff and KPMG
> > etc may make with the Feds they are not fooling mean old me
> >
> > horwitzd@dicksteinshapiro.com
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Sartory, Thomas J."<TSartory@goulstonstorrs.com>
> > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:41:20 -0500
> > Subject: RE: I did talk the lawyers Golub and Flumenbaum tried to
> > discuss Bernie Madoff and KPMG etc before sending these emails
> > To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Amos,
> >
> > I am General Counsel at Goulston & Storrs. Your email below to
> > Messers. Rosensweig and Reisch has been forwarded to me for response.
> > While it's not clear what type of assistance, if any, you seek from
> > Goulston % Storrs, please be advised that we are not in a position to
> > help you. Please do not send further communications to any of our
> > attorneys. We will not be able to respond, and your communications
> > will not be protected by the attorney-client privilege.
> >
> > We wish you well in the pursuit of your concerns.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Thomas J. Sartory
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:18 PM
> > To: Rosensweig, Richard J.; info@LAtaxlawyers.com; Reisch, Alan M.;
> > reed@hbsslaw.com
> > Subject: Fwd: I did talk the lawyers Golub and Flumenbaum tried to
> > discuss Bernie Madoff and KPMG etc before sending these emails
> >
> > Perhaps somebody should call me back now. EH?
> >
> > UK Parliament Disclaimer:
> > This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have
> > received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your
> > system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted.
> > This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted
> > for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "R Hide (MIN)"<R.Hide@ministers.govt.nz>
> > To: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: BENJAMIN'S EASTON'S PROTEST NOTICE ABOUT INJUSTICES I
> > have an idea for you Ben
> >
> >
> > On behalf of the Hon Rodney Hide, Minister of Local Government, I wish
> > to acknowledge receipt of your email.
> >
> > Your correspondence has been placed in front of the Minister.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Sandy Grove
> > Ministerial Private Secretary (Advisory)
> > Office of Hon Rodney Hide
> > WELLINGTON
> > Ph 04 817 6630
> > Email: sandy.grove@parliament.govt.nz
> >
> > The content of this email, including any attachment, is intended for
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> > liability is accepted for any loss or damage arising from the use of
> > this email or its attachments.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 29 September 2009 3:05 pm
> > To: T Ryall (MIN); Amy Adams; Jim Anderton;
> > anderton.wigram@xtra.co.nz; Jacinda Ardern; Shane Ardern; Chris
> > Auchinvole; Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi; Rick Barker; Carol Beaumont; David
> > Bennett; Loren Bolton (MIN); Jackie Blue; Chester Borrows;
> > chester.wanganui@xtra.co.nz; chester.hawera@xtra.co.nz; John Boscawen;
> > Sue Bradford; socialjustice@greens.org.nz; Simon Bridges; Natalie
> > Roberts (MIN); Brendon Burns; bb@brendonburns.co.nz; Chris Carter;
> > labourwest@xtra.co.nz; D Carter (MIN); cartermp@xtra.co.nz; J Carter
> > (MIN); northlandelectorate@xtra.co.nz; Steve Chadwick; Charles
> > Chauvel; Ashraf Choudhary; J Coleman (MIN); J Collins (MIN);
> > office@judithcollins.co.nz; Clayton Cosgrove;
> > claytoncosgrovekaiapoi@xtra.co.nz; David Cunliffe;
> > dcunliffe@xtra.co.nz; Clare Curran; lianne.dalziel@parliament.govt.nz;
> > Kelvin Davis; Jacqui Dean; Catherine Delahunty; Roger Douglas; P Dunne
> > (MIN); electjville@xtra.co.nz; Ruth Dyson; ruth.dyson@xtra.co.nz; B
> > English (MIN); elecgor@esi.co.nz; Darien Fenton;
> > office@labournorth.org.nz; C Finlayson (MIN); Jeanette Fitzsimons; Te
> > Ururoa Flavell; Craig Foss; craigfoss@backingthebay.co.nz; David
> > Garrett; Aaron Gilmore; p.goff@parliament.govt.nz; phil@goff.org.nz;
> > Jo Goodhew; sandra.goudie@national.org.nz; Kennedy Graham; Hon. Tim
> > Groser (MIN); nathan.guy@national.org.nz;
> > national.horowhenua@xtra.co.nz; national.kapiti@xtra.co.nz; Kevin
> > Hague; Hone Harawira; Terry Ututaonga; George Hawkins; John Hayes; P
> > Heatley (MIN); Tau Henare; tau.henaremp@xtra.co.nz; R Hide (MIN);
> > rodney@epsom.org.nz; Paul Hutchison; hunua.electorate@xtra.co.nz;
> > Shane Jones; shanejonesmp@xtra.co.nz; S Joyce (MIN); Rahui Katene;
> > Nikki Kaye; Sue Kedgley; J Key (MIN); genelle@johnkey.mp.net.nz;
> > A.King@parliament.govt.nz; kilbirnieeo@xtra.co.nz;
> > colin.kingmp@xtra.co.nz; winnie.laban@parliament.govt.nz;
> > mana.electorate@xtra.co.nz; Melissa Lee;
> > Iain.leesgalloway@parliament.govt.nz; Keith Locke;
> > greenmps.auckland@greens.org.nz;
> > peseta.sam.lotuiiga@parliament.govt.nz; Tim Macindoe;
> > moana.mackey@labour.org.nz; Nanaia Mahuta;
> > tainuielectorate@xtra.co.nz; Trevor Mallard; WOAoffice@xtra.co.nz;
> > petone.eo@clear.net.nz; W Mapp (MIN); Todd McClay; M McCully (MIN);
> > murray.mccully@xtra.co.nz; Sue Moroney; waikatohub.mps@xtra.co.nz;
> > Stuart Nash; Russel Norman; Hekia Parata; David Parker; Allan Peachey;
> > Ritchie Wards; lynne.pillaymp@xtra.co.nz; S Power (MIN);
> > simonpower.feilding@xtra.co.nz; simonpower.marton@xtra.co.nz; Rajen
> > Prasad; Paul Quinn; angela.bray@parliament.govt.nz;
> > jen.toogood@parliament.govt.nz; Chris Hipkins;
> > marlene.ditchfield@xtra.co.nz; janette.granville@xtra.co.nz; Pete
> > Hodgson; pete@petehodgson.co.nz; Parekura Horomia;
> > ikaroa.gis@xtra.co.nz; ikaroa.hstgs@xtra.co.nz; Darren Hughes; Raymond
> > Huo; office@grantrobertson.co.nz; Ross Robertson;
> > rae.waterhouse@xtra.co.nz; michael.clatworthy@xtra.co.nz; Eric Roy; H
> > Roy (MIN); Heather Henderson; Pita Sharples (MIN); Sua William Sio;
> > Trish Wanden; mp.rodney.warkworth@xtra.co.nz; N Smith (MIN);
> > nick@nick4nelson.co.nz; Maryan Street; Lindsay Tisch;
> > tolleywhk@xtra.co.nz; tolleygis@xtra.co.nz;
> > chris.tremain@national.org.nz; napier.electorate@airnet.net.nz;
> > Metiria Turei; greenmps.dunedin@greens.org.nz; T Turia (MIN);
> > Tari.Turia@xtra.co.nz; Philip Twyford; Louise Upston; Nicky Wagner; K
> > Wilkinson (MIN); waimakariri@xtra.co.nz; M Williamson (MIN); Michael
> > Woodhouse; blueandgold@parliament.govt.nz; P Wong (MIN);
> > pansy.wong@xtra.co.nz; ahan.young@parliament.govt.nz;
> > rosslynn@hrc.co.nz; sylviab@hrc.co.nz; michaelW@hrc.co.nz;
> > phillippa.smith@oag.govt.nz; Mark.Holman@ssc.govt.nz;
> > mark.thornton@justice.govt.nz; boris.vanbeusekom@justice.govt.nz;
> > tinz@paradise.net.nz; >; emma.miles@police.govt.nz;
> > John.Rivers@police.govt.nz; Mike.Webb@police.govt.nz;
> > nurses@nzno.org.nz; gay@pha.org.nz; qsolutionsrising@gmail.com;
> > easy@island.net; jardim.stratton@gmail.com;
> > christinejhansen@gmail.com; no_to_nwo@yahoo.co.uk;
> > johan.niklasson@evolution-production.com; lunalas@cox.net;
> > saxon1hero@yahoo.co.uk; journalist@bellsouth.net;
> > irenew.politico@gmail.com; daniel.solis@seznam.cz;
> > vickytoxotis@hotmail.com; wef339@mail.com; katcre22@yahoo.com;
> > scott@tkgtech.com; amandablake@blueyonder.co.uk;
> > who.flu.2009@gmail.com; jazon@ymail.com; sineadcasper@live.ie;
> > acpscotland@hotmail.co.uk; p.duffy93@ntlworld.com;
> > tua46054@temple.edu; ciaranmcloone@ooglemail.com;
> > marek_p2000@yahoo.com; black2000at@hotmail.com;
> > madame_karnak@yahoo.com; sracine@gmail.com;
> > annikatornlind@hotmail.com; manonf6@yahoo.com; matt@mattengelman.com;
> > grantlear@hotmail.com; helix7@hotmail.com; editor@uncensored.co.nz;
> > melocacau@gmail.com; steve.gosschalk@gmail.com;
> > tidalelectric@gmail.com; vapi.kupenga@xtra.co.nz;
> > eastwood.vincent@gmail.com; sichel@nsw.chariot.net.au;
> > mlm@archaeoskymatrix.com
> > Cc: laos_newzealand@yahoo.co.nz; jane burgermeister
> > Subject: RE: BENJAMIN'S EASTON'S PROTEST NOTICE ABOUT INJUSTICES I
> > have an idea for you Ben
> >
> > From: National Kapiti Electorate Office <national.kapiti@xtra.co.nz>
> > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:14:19 +1300
> > Subject: RE: NZ HEALTH MINISTER TONY RYALL - MS PENNY DO YOU READ
> > EMAILS AS WELL AS WRITE THEM?
> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> >
> > Dear Mr Amos
> > Thank you for copying Nathan in with your email to NZ Health Minister Tony
> > Ryall. This has been passed on to Nathan for his information.
> >
> > Regards
> > Heather
> >
> > Heather Shaw| Electorate Agent for Hon Nathan Guy MP for Otaki
> > P: +64 4 298 2906| F: +64 4 298 4845| Shop 3, 23 Amohia Street,
> > Paraparaumu,
> > Kapiti Coast 5032
> > www.nathanguy.co.nz
> >
> > Regards
> > Heather
> >
> > Jan 3rd, 2004
> >
> > Mr. David R. Amos
> > 153 Alvin Avenue
> > Milton, MA U.S.A. 02186
> >
> > Dear Mr. Amos
> >
> > Thank you for your letter of November 19th, 2003, addressed to
> > my predecessor,
> > the Honourble Wayne Easter, regarding your safety. I apologize for the
> > delay in responding.
> >
> > If you have any concerns about your personal safety, I can only
> > suggest that you contact
> > the police of local jurisdiction. In addition, any evidence of
> > criminal activity should be brought
> > to their attention since the police are in the best position to
> > evaluate the information and take
> > action as deemed appropriate.
> >
> > I trust that this information is satisfactory.
> >
> > Yours sincerely
> > A. Anne McLellan”
> >
> > September 11th, 2004
> >
> > Dear Mr. Amos,
> >
> > On behalf of Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne
> > Clarkson, I acknowledge receipt of two sets of documents and
> > CD regarding corruption, one received from you directly, and the
> > other forwarded to us by the Office of the Lieutenant Governor of
> > New Brunswick.
> >
> > I regret to inform you that the Governor General cannot
> > intervene in matters that are the responsibility of elected officials
> > and courts of
> > Justice of Canada. You already contacted the various provincial authorities
> > regarding your concerns, and these were the appropriate steps to take.
> >
> > Yours sincerely.
> >
> > Renee Blanchet
> > Office of the Secretary to the Governor General
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:12:44 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: We just talked
> To: scott.white@thecanadianpress.com, pagek@parl.gc.ca,
> editor@policeprofessional.com
> Cc: IgnatM <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>, LaytoJ <LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>,
> jemma@policeprofessional.com, hiddenfromhistory
> <hiddenfromhistory@yahoo.ca>
>
> Need i say i was not surprised when Askari and his boss Kevin Page
> formerly of the PCO office did not respond to my phone calls or email
> yesterday?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:39:54 -0300
> Subject: We just talked
> To: askarm@parl.gc.ca
>
> Mostafa Askari
> Director General
> Library of Parliament
> Economic and Fiscal Analysis
> Parliament Buildings
> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A9
> Canada
>
> Telephone : 613-992-8045
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:07:59 -0300
> Subject: You Cato dudes played dumb again about your missing blog and
> the documents I sent ya but lets see if one of your Directors is a
> dumb as you and the Feds pretend to be
> To: barnold@cato.org, kcouchman@cato.org, ckennedy@cato.org, amast@cato.org
> Cc: "rick. skinner"<rick.skinner@dhs.gov>, "Dean.Buzza"
> <Dean.Buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>
> The text of the blog of Tom Palmer's that Cato denies existed can be
> found within my blog and many other places as well as this email
>
> http://davidamos.blogspot.com/2005/03/ides-of-march.html
>
> March 24, 2005
> Crazy as a Loon, but Free
>
> Off to Iceland!
>
> Well, Bobby Fischer has his Icelandic passport. The U.S. government
> can now stop persecuting him for the crime of playing chess in
> Yugoslavia. Fischer may be out of his mind (tha’ts almost certain, if
> you consider his anti-Semitism and praise for the 9-11 attacks), but
> he’s not out of his mind for choosing Iceland as his country of
> refuge. And the Icelanders, who may later regret having such an
> utterly crazy person wandering around in their country, have done the
> right thing by offering him refuge.
>
> NOTE: I seem to have attracted a stalker, who keeps posting strange
> messages on this site. Whatever.
>
> Posted by Tom Palmer at March 24, 2005 07:09 AM | TrackBack
>
> Comments
> Quite frankly I do not understand this. What does Iceland gain from
> this? Fischer himself stated that he would NEVER return to chess. So,
> it is unlikely that he will play for Iceland... and even though he
> did, it is not like he’d be back at the top.
> Now, he might want to teach his fellow Icelanders
> Fischerrandom...Fischerrandom is to chess what Estonian grammar is to
> linguistic ...And THAT sounds like a threat to me. NV
>
>
> Posted by: Nathalie I. Vogel at March 24, 2005 08:36 AM
> I doubt that Iceland has much to gain. (And I suspect that the
> inhabitants of Reykjavik may suffer from having an insufferable
> loudmouth crackpot wandering around.) But they did the right thing.
> The better thing would have been for the U.S. to drop its case against
> Mr. Fischer. I don't think you should lose your passport or suffer
> criminal prosecution for traveling someplace to play chess. I think
> that the position of the U.S. government (and of both Democratic and
> Republican administrations) is the harder one to understand.
>
> Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 24, 2005 08:47 AM
> TGP: "Fischer may be out of his mind (tha’ts almost certain, if you
> consider his anti-Semitism "
>
> I don't want to go all Szaszian on someone for what is most likely a
> casual comment, but suggesting someone is "out of his mind" simply
> because he is (labeled as) anti-Semitic seems overmuch. Immoral,
> perhaps...poorly informed, possibly...holding to views developed as a
> result of childhood associations, maybe...a confusion on either the
> part of Fischer or the person making the accusation of anti-Semitism
> with anti-Zionism, quite possible. But "out of his mind"?
>
> Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 24, 2005 11:17 AM
> Ross, Tom did refer to 'his' anti-Semitism; maybe it's not just that
> Fischer does not like Jews, but that he suffers from a particularly
> radical form of bigotry.
>
> I wouldn't know myself, but that was the inference I drew from Tom's comment.
>
> Posted by: Henri Hein at March 25, 2005 02:45 AM
> Then, Henri, he would be immoral, or bigoted, not "out of his mind".
> And he should consult an ethicist, not a travel agent or chiropracter
> to bring him back to his mind or better align it.
> Again, my point was merely that "out of his mind" implies one must be
> crazy or mentally ill to be anti-Semitic; I think that's a category
> error.
>
> Ross
>
> Posted by: Ross Levatter at March 25, 2005 06:54 PM
> Ross's points are well taken, but I do think that some term such as
> "crazy" (I'll stay away from "mentally ill") is useful in describing
> Mr. Fischer. (And even Thomas Szasz readily admits that there are
> "lots of crazy people" around; he just says that they're not sick.)
>
> The anti-Semitism that Mr. Fischer spouts is not of the "they wouldn't
> be welcome in our club" sort (bad as that is), but of the "Organized
> International Jewry is out to get me," sort. The former is an example
> of bad behavior, bad manners, immoral views, or the like. The latter
> sort of anti-Semitism is an obsession that seems in general to be
> immune to either moral appeal (since it's a claim about an alleged
> state of affairs, viz., that the Jews run everything and are out to
> get one) or to factual refutation (how do you argue someone out of
> such a...for want of a better word...crazy view?).
>
> Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 25, 2005 11:34 PM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: rjvattuone@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:59 AM
> Subject: This is going to get interesting
>
>
> Hey Richard
>
> Thanks for calling me back the other day. Here is my number in Boston
> 617 698-6549 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 617 698-6549
> end_of_the_skype_highlighting. I will be hitting the road shortly
> and I will be sending out to you hard copy of what I am sending to
> Scott Daruty. However there is a great deal more you should know ASAP.
> I am involved against the biggest and baddest of them all and we all
> know they play for keeps. It is important that you know much and have
> evidence of it in order to protect yourself. I know they moniter my
> phone calls and I have know doubt that they listen to the Canadain
> Cell as well. The fact that you spoke to me honestly and openly puts
> you in jeopardy. If you had acted like most lawyers, the bastards
> would leave you alone. If you come to my aid, they will attack you.
> Trust me it has happened before and I will send proof of it in the
> following emails. Some contain the Tiffs I mentioned I am curious to
> see if they get through AOL system. I hack been blocked by them in the
> past. I have not heard from Barry Bachrach since just after he warned
> me that the FBI was about to pounce on me on Oct 1st. It seems they
> have him running scared. I must do my best to protect honest men..
>
> The following is what I just posted but it seems Bill Gates does not
> allow Tiff files in his sites so I will forward it to you to support
> what I said is true. Answer this email if and when you get it an I
> will send some others if you wish. However I think it would be better
> not to use AOL. As I said just get one in Yahoo or Hotmail they work
> better and are free.
>
> From: motomaniac in response to Message 1 Sent: 3/27/2005 9:21 AM
>
> In defense of Bobby Fischer I must say that he is just another man
> like me. He has his strengths and his weaknesses. Just like me. One
> particular forte of his, the amazing ability to play a game very well
> thrust him into the limelight for the whole wide world to study and
> examine his every move. More importantly I believe his fame caused him
> to become a pawn in the big big game. Although he had his right to
> privacy, the whole world dogged at his heels and critized his every
> action as a man. The Masters of War obviously tried use him to their
> advantage during the Cold War. He is not a stateman or a lawyer. He is
> simply a free thinking individual who has every right to speak his
> mind particularly after he has suffered through hell just because he
> plays chess so very well.
>
> I say judge not lest ye be judged and mind your own mouth about things
> you do not know all the details of. I am far more outspoken than Bobby
> ever was and yet you have never even heard of my name. It is because
> the corporate controlled media is not permited to do so. I am nobody
> with any special talent that had caused me to be thrown into public
> scrutiny before I was compelled to speak out as Bobby has done. I do
> not have to agree or disagree with his every word over the years to
> understand his meaning and his troubles. That said, in all honesty it
> would behoove us both if his lawyer would listen to me and employ
> Bobby's fame to expose the truth of all that we say.
>
> I am am not a perfect person and neither is Bobby. I do not know him
> nor do I judge him. Yet I do agree with with his standing in defense
> of his freedom. The Chessmaster has every right to spout off against
> the Masters of War because they have offended him greatly. It is for
> his attorney to weed out the truth and evidence of his convictions and
> present it in court in order to seek relief on his client's behalf. A
> jury of his peers will decide the truth of his matters not us bloggers
> without veiwing and hearing all the evidence. Forget what you may
> glean from the media. The information is controlled and slanted
> against him. Listen to what his lawyer says and what is used in
> arguement against him on the public record. Do not hold court in the
> media just gossip about things you know are true in order for the
> courts to act properly in the public interest.
>
> Bobby has paid the devil his due and done time in his jails. It is
> time for him to seek relief. I have as well. I was summoned to jail in
> the USA while running for Parliament in Canada and held under the
> charges of "other". I will not want allow myself to be judged on just
> one particular act or deed. My criminal trial in the USA is coming
> very soon. I will have lots to say.
>
> It is the average of all our days and deeds that speaks of us as the
> men we are. Like any game, it is what happens in the end that counts.
> Sometimes sacrifices must be made and sometimes mistakes are made.
> However once the word "checkmate" is declared, it is all over but the
> crying as long as we play by the rules and the fat lady sings in tune.
> I am more than happy to provide to Mr. Vattuone my evidence of much
> public corruption in order to support Bobby's lawsuit against the USA.
> It is high time the the Masters of War paid the fiddler and then be
> compelled to dance to a different tune as we make them fall on their
> own sword. No one is above the law. The public trust must be upheld or
> we are all losers in the the big big game. Forget Bobby and chess for
> a minute and listen to what he is saying through his attorney. I
> applaud is efforts in support of Bobby and his legal matters. I hope
> we get on like a house on fire. Any enemy of my foe should be a friend
> of mine. Bobby lawyer is your neighbor listen to him and then speak
> out to protect your own civil rights. What happened to Bobby and I
> could happen to you next. Get it?
>
> If anyone wishes to challenge what I have said, respond to this
> message with a email account that can hold of 25 megs of attachments.
> I will send you Tiff files of legal documents etc. that will take you
> down path of of the Garden of Good and Evil that everybody knows is
> true. I simply made it a point to prove it. My particular forte that
> helped accomplish such a necessary task is that I am more stubburn
> than a pig, meaner than a snake and smarter than the average bear.
> Much to my chagrin, I am just an average sort of chess player and have
> much to learn from Bobby in that regard but I maintain that chess is
> just a game. Bobby was compelled to play a far more serious and deadly
> game just because of his love of a game. I do recognize his talent but
> my hat is off to him because of what he did and stood for as a man not
> a chess player. In regards to his legal actions methinks I can teach
> his attorney a trick or two of mine.
>
> If anyone has any questions here is my phone number. 506 434-1379
> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 506 434-1379
> end_of_the_skype_highlighting Feel free to argue me and stress test my
> ethics to the max. It is your freedom as well as my own that I am
> protecting. I think anyone has the right to question my motives. I
> speak plainly and do not hide my identity. Integrity does not need a
> mask to hide behind. However men like John Ashcroft and all his
> cohorts need jails to cage honest men who speak their mind about their
> masks of virtue.
>
> Bobby is just one man of many. His is fortunate that he is famous.
> Iceland would not do such things on behalf of the likes of me and many
> others. However Canada or Japan or whatever would do the same against
> me to support President Bush in a New York minute. In fact it already
> happened. The one file I have attached is the reason Clark Kent Ervin
> got fired immediately after the recent election. He long along proved
> to me that he was not interested in Truth Justice and the American Way
> and in fact he is a dumb as a post. I will wager I could beat him at
> chess. I know I played him like a fiddle as a lawyer and that is his
> game of choice. It was really to funny to me the advice he offered to
> others as he entered into the Aspen Crowd of nasty dudes. I feel the
> need to quote him. Many a govenment lawyer will understand why I am
> busting my gut laughing. I hope Bobby's lawyer does too.
>
> Lauren Robinson POGO Fellow " Any advice for your fellow public servants?"
>
> Clark Kent Ervin "Well, just do your job and let the political chips
> fall where they may. Unless your're willing to do that, it seems to me
> you shouldn't take the job in the first place."
>
> My answer to his remark is No Shit Sherlock. The former Inspector
> General can expect a rather profound civil lawsuit. He must argue me
> Pro Se or a at least without government assistance on his behalf
> because he failed to act within the scope of his employment and he is
> now out of the job.
>
> David Raymond Amos
>
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:12 PM
> December 7th, 2003
>
> Gene Healy Senior Editor Cato Institute
> 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
> Washington D.C. 20001-5403
> Phone (202) 842-0200 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting
> (202) 842-0200 end_of_the_skype_highlighting
> Fax (202) 842-3490
> RE: Corruption
> Sir,
> Please find enclosed an exact copy of a letter with all its enclosures
> recently sent to the Hearst Corporation and many others. Many of your
> directors such as Lewis E. Randall, John C. Malone and Jeffrey S. Yass
> should find the documents an interesting read. I ask that you make
> them available for their review.
> I watched David Boaz speak on C-Span the other day and heard him say
> many things. What I found the most interesting was that he said that
> the Cato Institute was named after some rather prolific letter
> writers. I invite you all to read mine. They can be found at the
> website mentioned in the enclosed documents. I could not send this
> letter to Mr. Boaz because he is not a lawyer and an officer of the
> court as you are. This is because only law enforcement authorities or
> officers of the court have any right to listen to the copy of wiretap
> numbered 139. It is served upon you in confidence as an officer of the
> court in order that you may act ethically and see that it is properly
> investigated. Please share the contents of the Cd with only the proper
> authorities so that I may never be accused of violating anyone’s
> Fourth Amendment Rights.
> As I have said to many other lawyers, at the very least I have now
> made you a witness to my pursuit of justice. I ask you simply the
> following. What will you do with your newfound knowledge of Civil
> Rights Violations and Government Corruption?
> Best Regards
> David R.Amos
> 153 Alvin Ave.
> Milton MA. 02186
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 27, 2005 06:22 PM
> Um, as I was saying about some people being, um, a bit....well, "different."
>
> Posted by: Tom G. Palmer at March 27, 2005 09:12 PM
> Did I mention that I found snotty Oxford dudes had stuffed shirts and
> were great fun to poke fun at as they bullshit others about how smart
> they are?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: marnie.ferguson@keyporter.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:08 PM
> Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: deborahlbmc@yahoo.com ; egeetter@bu.edu ;
> dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; lawrence_summers@harvard.edu ;
> wrogersjr@therogerslawfirm.com ; thomas.hannigan@ropesgray.com ;
> jotodd@toddweld.com
> Cc: warren.tolman@hklaw.com ; dan@dankennedy.net ; w.kirtz@neu.edu ;
> howiecarr@wrko.com ; bzelnick@bu.edu ; n.daniloff@neu.edu ;
> barnicle@969fmtalk.com ; wsj.ltrs@wsj.com ; amy.wolfcale@dowjones.com
> ; joseph.stern@dowjones.com ; letters@washpost.com ; fair@fair.org ;
> editor@usatoday.com ; pressreleases@upi.com ; letters@time.com ;
> newshour@pbs.org ; ombudsman@npr.org ; morning@npr.org ;
> letters@newsweek.com ; nytnews@nytimes.com ;
> dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ; gillooly@dailyfreepress.com ;
> dfpnews@dailyfreepress.com ; 48hours@cbsnews.com ; pr@ap.org ;
> nightline@abcnews.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:21 PM
> Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>
>
> Hey
>
> It appears that all the Law Schools know nothing of ethical behavior
> if it may affect their coffers. I made it my task to prove it. Lets
> see if I can turn the worm and make the light dawn on Marblehead for
> the benefit of all.
>
> Whereas Todd Klipp is on Legal Advisory Committee United Educators
> (UE) Insurance Risk Retention Group I called Corporate Counsel, Jan
> Holt and told her something is up and that I would be serving the Hard
> Copy of the evidence that proves what I say is true upon Mr. Klipp. If
> I were you I would go to the US District Court in Beantown, query the
> dockets that bear my name and ask the BU professor Chief Justice Young
> about his integrity and his association with crooks like Charles J.
> Kickham Jr. and all of his cohorts.
>
> Cardinal Law would be a good witness to ask to start a proper
> investigation that is if you can get whoever becomes the next US
> Ambassador to the Vatican to make him fess up about his sins.
> Otherwise ask his former secretary Robert Kickham he is now O'Malley's
> secretary. I have no doubt that little bastard knows everything but
> trust that the three legal stooges Todd, Rogers and Hannigan have told
> him to shut up and wait for me to quit or die. However I think the
> Kickhams will soon fold their hand and start rattin out others very
> soon. Their is no honour amongst theives and I have the Kickhams
> cornered after three years of hard work. Their big daddy Chucky is
> dead and the rest of them are as dumb as a post. Uncle Franky has been
> dead since last June and I have finally forced the court to admit it.
> None of their accountings have been assented to by anyone and the IRS
> must check their work before my wife will settle. the Feds have a big
> problem and everybody knows its me.
>
> I am proud to say I won't quit and don't care if I die. I made certain
> that my truths live on and that no Kickham relatives can no longer
> claim to be kin to my little Clan. I refuse to allow my family to
> associate with bible pounding criminals that expound of law nor will I
> settle with them in order that they may escape justice. They must be
> held accountable and so should all their friends.
>
> I may seem crazy but at least I know my rights and will not allow
> wrongs against my family to go unpunished, particularly when the
> wrongs are practiced by people well paid or licensed by the state to
> insure that matters such as this never happen. If I am not crazy then
> the governments of Canada and the USA must be insanely corrupt. I know
> for a fact that there are a lot of ordinary people that agree with me
> therefore I know I am OK but I have my doubts about you. i am giving
> Mr. Klipp just enough evidence to impeach George Bush and for safe
> measure I am giving the same material to many others as well. Here's
> hoping ethics wins out after all. Otherwise we are all losers and the
> crooks within such organizations as the Aspen Institute will keep on
> advising the bastards on how to screw us all.
>
> The judges of the First Circuit of the US District Court have a lot to
> be accountable for and Judge Young is well aware of it all. He has no
> right to teach others about trial practice and the law until he proves
> that he understands how to uphold the law. I will be suing the bastard
> in short order you pick whether you wish to stand with him or me.
> There is no middle ground in this legal battle for Boston University
> to stand on. Judge Young is in your employ. However methinks he is no
> longer a feather in your cap. The University has bragged to have such
> a man to teach the students. What say you now?
>
> Trust that I don't care if anyone reads this email or not. In fact it
> will be more fun if ya didn't.
>
> "The Honorable William G. Young was appointed judge of the U.S.
> District Court for Massachusetts in 1984, after serving as associate
> justice of the state’s Superior Court. Prior positions include special
> assistant attorney general, chief counsel to the governor, and clerk
> for the Honorable Raymond Wilkins, former chief justice of the
> Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Judge Young has a long list of
> pro bono activities, teaching experience, and several awards,
> including the Award for Judicial Excellence from the Massachusetts
> Academy of Trial Attorneys. Judge Young developed the course Advanced
> Trial Practice and also teaches Evidence."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: jb95@bu.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:02 PM
> Subject: Fw: I just called I am not kidding
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: MauraH@ci.boston.ma.us ; maurah@maurahennigan.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:36 PM
> Subject: I just called I am not kidding
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: info@pogo.org ; elliot.gerson@aspeninstitute.org ;
> pat.zindulka@aspeninstitute.org ; peter. reiling@aspeninstitute.org ;
> clark.ervin@aspeninstitute.org
> Cc: brian@questionsquestions.net ; plough@ploughshares.ca ; moto
> maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ; kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; backtalk@motherjones.com
> ; Wes Penre@Illuminati News.com ; tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ;
> david@davidakin.com ; McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
> INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca ;
> Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
> Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
> Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:30 AM
> Subject: I just left voicemail for Jim Spiegelman
>
>
> Hey Fellas
> I have picked you Mr. Gerson to send exactly the same material that I
> sent to two Solicitor Generals last year before I ran for Parliament
> in Canada. I am certain that material caused Theodore Olson to quit
> his job and your brand new fellow, Clark Kent Erwin to get the boot
> from his job right after the last Yankee election.
> Obviously I picked you because of your own bragging. There is no need
> for me to expand upon things that you and I know to be true. It is
> merely my task to prove to the world that you are well aware of my
> concerns and allegations. Then if you and your Association does
> nothing to uphold the public trust, I will make it my best effort to
> embarrass you all in court in front of a jury of my peers. You people
> claim to inspire people to ethical leaders? I say Bullshit. What say
> you?
> Say Hey to Superman for me. Will ya? Yea I know I just did but he
> likes to keep everything in confidence while his cohorts keep me
> falsely imprisoned. However I plan to call him to testify during my
> pending criminal trial as I have the right to do. I should be very
> interesting to see if he takes the fifth.
> David R. Amos
>
>
> "Elliot Gerson is responsible for the Aspen Institute's seminars,
> including the Executive Seminar, topical and custom seminars, and
> those offered in the Society of Fellows and Socrates programs. He also
> manages the Institute's public programs and activities, including the
> Aspen Ideas Festival. He is a graduate of Harvard College, Oxford
> University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar, and Yale Law School. As
> American Secretary of the Rhodes Trust, he manages the U.S. Rhodes
> Scholarships and is an advisor to the Mandela Rhodes Foundation in
> Cape Town, which focuses on African higher education and leadership.
> He was a U. S. Supreme Court clerk and has had a career including the
> practice of law, executive positions in state and federal government
> and a presidential campaign, president of leading insurance and
> healthcare companies, and service on many non-profit boards,
> especially in the arts."
>
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:23 PM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: backtalk@motherjones.com
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:01 PM
> Subject: Fw: Cya in court Cato
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: tpalmer@cato.org ; ghealy@cato.org ; tcarpent@cato.org ;
> dboaz@cato.org ; rpilon@cato.org ; cpreble@cato.org ; tlynch@cato.org
> ; blindsey@cato.org ; rlevy@cato.org ; tfirey@cato.org ;
> ecrane@cato.org
> Cc: Wes Penre@Illuminati News ; freedom_of_information@yahoogroups.com
> ; Letters@globeandmail.ca ; webmaster@canadalawcourts.com ; lloyd
> brinson ; J. D. Kuntz ; elois@newdata.ca ; Jack Hook ; John Bjornstrom
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 8:47 PM
> Subject: Cya in court Cato
>
>
>
> Hey Tommy Boy
> You invited me. These are your words correct? I tried to register on
> line but your link does not work. I want to come. we should be in
> agreement in most things but I know we are not and we should really
> talk about it before I file my civil lawsuits. You people have already
> proven to me your malice. this is your last chance to act ethically.
> My criminal trial will begin shortly thereafter and I may call some of
> you to testify at it. One of them could be you. I am one of those
> people that many already turn to for an honest opinion. Right or wrong
> they know my answer comes from sincere ethical consideration because I
> am more a man of my word than legions of lawyers ever were. I am good
> to my friends and sheer hell to my foes. I hate the false fronts of
> integrity of the people you joke about within your following
> invitation. You are joking. I am not.
> Dear Friend,
>
> Would you like to be the person to whom others turn for an explanation
> of the debate over Social Security and retirement, the economics of
> international trade, or how to control pollution and protect the
> environment through incentives? Would you like to be better able to
> explain the benefits of free markets, private property, and free trade
> to your friends, colleagues, and family members?
>
> If so, you should come to Washington, D.C., for the Cato University
> seminar April 28 to May 1 on Applied Economics: User-Friendly Tools to
> Understand Politics, Business Enterprise, and Life. The faculty
> includes top-level economists and policy experts from universities and
> the Cato Institute.
>
> The seminar will be held in the F. A. Hayek Auditorium of the Cato
> Institute, with dinner and a tour at Mount Vernon, the historic home
> of George Washington.
>
> Our goal is to help attendees become the people to whom their friends
> turn to explain the economy and how political interference in markets
> tends to generate disaster. And there's a reason it's being held in
> Washington, D.C. You see, we want to change fundamentally the culture
> of Washington, D.C. Washington's a very strange city. Most of the
> people here spend their working days taking from Peter to give to Paul
> (minus a substantial cut, of course). Or writing minute and
> incomprehensible "regulations" on the optimal size of broccoli, or
> warning people to wear sensible shoes, or just figuring out new ways
> to strip American citizens of their rights and dignity.
>
> You can come to D.C. for a long weekend and learn how to change that.
> You'll learn how to make the arguments that will convince your
> friends, coworkers, and neighbors that they don't need or benefit from
> all those rules, redistributions, regulations, and rip-offs.
>
> You're invited to attend one Cato University seminar, or two, or
> three. Each is a stand alone seminar, but all three are complementary.
> (The other two are on history and on the art and technique of
> persuasion.)
>
> Please check out the faculty and schedule, and register using our
> secure registration form. Online registration is safe, easy, and fast.
>
> Come to Washington, D.C. ... and learn how to change it.
>
> I look forward to welcoming you to Cato University this year.
>
> Cordially,
>
> and Signed by you. Tom Palmer
>
> In order not to be somehow overlooked, I just called you cell phone to
> cell phone so that I would have a record of contact to let you know we
> had a problem to discuss. You were to busy to talk so you missed your
> chance. Methinks you are a fine example of the reason your buddy Gene
> Healy and his ilk ignored me. I read enough of your work to think you
> are a very snotty tall talking whore for the Global Corps. I wanted to
> hear your voice to be certain my feelings were correct. You did not
> dissappoint me. If you don't like my opinion of you, sue me and bring
> all these emails to court. I promise I will not file a motion to
> dismiss. In fact I can't wait to meet your lawyers. I thought what you
> said about Bobby Fischer was far more offensive and as you can see I
> blogged in his defense. Many people call me crazy too. That seem to be
> the label bad actors put on someone when they are cornered. I wanted
> you to hear my voice so that you would understand that I am not nuts
> but very sincere. when you shunned my last words were see you in
> court. Ignore me some more and you certainly will. Check my work
> before you laugh and call me crazy too.
> In order to prove you all I am serious I will send Roger Pilon, Vice
> President for Legal Affairs at 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.,
> Washington D.C. 20001-5403 hard copy of exactly the same material I
> sent to two Solicitor Generals last year just before I ran for
> Parliament. Teddy Olson quit and went into private practice as soon as
> Stephen Harper opened his mouth about the Arar Inquiry but thus far
> Landslide Annie has hung onto hers. Now if you have any questions of
> me before we meet, ask them to New Canadian Ambassador Franky Boy
> McKenna. He knows exactly who I am and what has happened in the year
> since. If you want a Yankee perspective ask John Ashcroft, John
> Edwards. Tom Ridge, Clark Kent Ervin, Theodore Olson or David
> Aufhauser to name a few. They all are now free agents and in the same
> hot water as your buddy and now you.
> I emailed ya, blogged ya, called ya and am now telling some your
> friends plus a few of mine for good measure. Under Title 18 of the
> federal code you are all as guilty as everyone else if you don't get
> honest real fast. Ask Frank Quatronne and Martha Stewart about email
> evidence in federal court
> In light of the reasons I was falsely imprisoned and what I had sent
> you dudes the year before it makes Cato's work in "Go Directly to
> Jail: The Criminalization of Almost Everything." a total bullshit
> piece of work. It is my job to properly shame you bastards so that
> nobody will take you seriously ever again.
>
> "At one time, the sanction of the criminal law was reserved for
> serious, morally culpable offenders. But during the past 40 years, an
> unholy alliance of tough-on-crime conservatives and anti-big-business
> liberals has utterly transformed the criminal law. Today, while
> violent crime often goes unpunished, Congress continues to add new,
> trivial offenses to the federal criminal code. With more than 4,000
> federal offenses on the statute books, and thousands more buried in
> the Code of Federal Regulations, it is now frighteningly easy for
> American citizens to be hauled off to jail for actions that no
> reasonable person would regard as crimes. At the same time, rampant
> federalization and mandatory minimum sentencing are making America’s
> criminal justice system ever more centralized and punitive. The result
> is a labyrinthine criminal code, a burgeoning prison population, and
> often real injustice. Go Directly to Jail examines those alarming
> trends and proposes reforms that could rein in a criminal justice
> apparatus at war with fairness and common sense."
> If you dudes do not want me to turn up after being invited please let
> me know why in writing and introduce me to the lawyer I will be
> arguing someday in court.
> David R. Amos
> 153 Alvin Ave.
> Milton, MA 02186
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: dante17678@hotmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:20 AM
> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: rjvattuone@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:04 AM
> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: lsewell@canadians.org
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:27 AM
> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: jeffryhouse@hotmail.com
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:03 AM
> Subject: Fw: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca ; Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca ; Jack Layton ;
> Easter.W@parl.gc.ca ; Cadman.C@parl.gc.ca ; Casey.B@parl.gc.ca ;
> Thompson.G@parl.gc.ca
> Cc: McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca ;
> macaul1@parl.gc.ca ; Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca ; Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca ;
> Anderson.D@parl.gc.ca ; Anderson.Da@parl.gc.ca ;
> david.anderson1@sk.sympatico.ca
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:12 PM
> Subject: Hunky-dory EH Petey
>
>
> I got a better one for ya Petey Boy. "Thar she blows". I bet Belinda
> is really pissed off at everybody and is letting off some steam. If I
> were you I would start bailing out of your new party like any other
> rat that would desert a sinking ship. That is one boat that could
> never float. The way you back stabbed your way into its creation will
> likely never be forgotten. Some of the new Senators Martin just
> appointed proved that didn't they? Right now you are just hanging on
> and kissing Harper's arse because nobody else will ever trust you in
> their Dory except maybe the diddler, Billy Matthews. He is used to
> turningcoat and needs help bailing out his punky little craft. I think
> the liberals are tired of him by now and Johnny Crosbie is likely
> pretty pissed at him too. I think you two dudes should be good company
> for each other as everybody else tries to distance themselves from a
> couple of cry babies that call themselves Maritimers. You were born
> there alright but a lair lawyer and a nasty old diddler reflect poorly
> upon the rest of us. But bad apples fall from the best of trees. The
> sooner the better so that they don't suck the sap out of the good
> ones.
> Dare to argue me Petey Boy? I am ten times meaner with no temper than
> the man that pitches silly fits kicks chairs. I would kick your arse
> in a good debate. I would laugh if you asked me to step outside, head
> for the door and quit talking immediately in a sincere effort to kick
> your arse in the street. Win or lose, rest assured I would have fun.
> Fighting is a true Maritime tradition. EH MacKay? Feel free to try to
> call me a liar. Everybody knows it would be a case of the pot trying
> to call the kettle black.
>
> "The Nova Scotia MP described his relations with Conservative Leader
> Stephen Harper as "hunky-dory, everything's great - that's a good
> Maritime phrase."
> Forwarded Message
>
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:14:47 -0800 (PST)
>
> From: David Amos"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> Subject: Attn Don Amos
>
> To: MEC.investors@magnaent.com, dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca,
> smay@pattersonpalmer.ca
>
> As I stated within an earlier email, Scott Daruty finally called me
> back and pissed me off. He picked the wrong guy to try and toy with. I
> will take up my concerns with Magna byway of Daruty and Cellucci down
> here in the Yankee courts. I have much proof of what I sent Belinda
> Stronach long before she ever became a Member of Parliament up home. I
> will deal with her in a political fashion first to see if she is
> interested in up holding the public trust while protecting her
> interests in Magna. Good luck with your conscience as a lawyer named
> Amos as you check my work. Here is my phone number 506 434-1379
> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 506 434-1379
> end_of_the_skype_highlighting if you have any questions before
> deciding whether or not to uphold the law and protect the investor's
> interests in Magna from my necessary civil actions. I gave my material
> to Argeo P. Cellucci in Canada in July of 2002 before I sent the
> Sheriffs out with my first complaints. I know by the fax numbers at
> the top of my first complaint that it was Ashcroft and Cellucci that
> directed the US Attorney to try to make my complaints evaporate. Now
> that Cellucci speaks for Magna and Belinda speaks for Canadians there
> is a couple of Amos boys that should have along talk about many
> things. But forget trying to label me as your brother until I am
> assured of your integrity. I have a high contempt towards lawyers and
> their sense of ethics for very justifiable reasons.
>
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca ; moto maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ;
> kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; danthebagelman@msn.com ; info@electtomobrien.com ;
> lcampenella@ledger.com ; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; newsonline@bbc.co.uk ;
> Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
> Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
> Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com ;
> MEC.investors@magnaent.com
> Cc: zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ; savoya2@parl.gc.ca ;
> thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ;
> martib@sen.parl.gc.ca ; dougchristielaw@shaw.ca ;
> Mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ; Stephen.Murphy@ci.boston.ma.us ;
> Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
> johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ; brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca ;
> McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
> INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:14 PM
> Subject: Shame on you Della
>
>
> At least I am a man of my word. I called you personally as I stated I
> would. I have the record of the call that I was directed to do by your
> boss, Stevey Boy May. Too bad you would not speak to me to protect
> your own interests. At least I have your signature because no word
> from you is worthless to me. You can never claim ignorance of my
> concerns after directing me to your lawyer. I stuck my hand out to you
> as a layman but you had picked your friends the lawyers and had
> enlisted them to bite it? Do you really Think I am afraid of dealing
> with the likes of Johnny Crosbie and Stevey Boy May when I am
> preparing a lawsuit against the likes of John Edwards, John Ashcroft
> and Theodore Olson to name a few? Plus there is the irrefutable fact
> that you and the law firm you work for have already admitted that you
> are aware of the crimes practiced against me. You have done nothing to
> uphold the law and have already filed the evidence of that fact in the
> Newfoundland Supreme Court. Lady, either I or my estate will bankrupt
> you and your firm with its own sworn testimony that you witnessed. You
> can take that to the bank. The first question I must ask you Della
> what did your law fir do with its copy of the police surveillance tape
> # 139 and did you listen to it? You should not have because you are
> not an officer of the court nor are you employed by law enforcement.
> The Lieutenant Governor Roberts notified me that he had given his
> copies of the material to Tommy Marshall to be investigated but I have
> received no word from your law firm as to what the hell they did with
> their copies. Have your lawyers explain their integrity to you because
> you and I will never come to an understanding of ethical behavior
> after your treatment of me today. I often sing the praises of Newfys
> because they are amongst the nicest folks on the planet excepting of
> course their lawyers and their cohorts such as you Della. By the way I
> heard about the clerks in Supreme Court having a little wager over who
> buys lunch if I managed to do what I said I would do. I would like to
> meet the lady who felt I was as serious as a heart attack and willing
> to buy lunch if I was not a man of my word. I would love to buy her
> lunch some time because the courts need more folks like her in their
> employment. She clearly did not disregard the word of a common man.
> On the other hand after our exchange of the mere few words today it
> would not be wise for me to trust your word or typing if I had left
> the voicemail you desired. I have much evidence of many edited
> transcripts of things I have said in the past. You and I will argue
> them some day no doubt byway of your lawyer friends because I think
> you don't speak pro se very well in order to protect your personal
> interests. I just got off the phone with one of Frank Stronach's
> Yankee lawyers Scott Daruty. He did me the service of really pissing
> me off today by finally calling me back after I had torn a piece off
> of Magna in Canada about his neglect of duty on their behalf. He
> thought he was funny by joking that the Canadian lawyer, Don Amos was
> my brother. No lawyer is a brother of mine. He thought I was joking
> when I told him I would sue him personally if he did not uphold the
> law and rat out Magna's brand new Vice President his brother, Argeo P.
> Cellucci so I had to repeat myself so he would understand me in no
> uncertain terms. I do make a lot of jokes about very serious business
> however it would not be wise to underestimate my sincerity and attempt
> to toy with me. I enjoy a good fight win or lose as long as I stand on
> the right side of the battle. You just picked a fight with me lady on
> a day when I ain't taking prisoners from lawyers or their cohorts. All
> lawyers are liars and I have proven it. It is only laymen I will
> settle with from now on and only if they tell the truth, the whole
> truth and nothing but the truth.
> I don't care if your god helps you or not. We can all do it again in
> hell for all I care.
> From now on I must rely on hard copy of my own creation. For now I
> will send you and Stevey Boy a bunch of emails that have been
> forwarded to many other people first. I require the record of doing
> so. Whereas I have no doubt Stevey Boy will wan to argue about the
> emails I have already sent I figure why not be hung for a cow as a
> calf? Since everything in heaven and hell is done in threes. I will
> forward to Magna's lawyer, Don Amos, Stevey Boy and three large emails
> that contain Tiff files. There is no need to be redundant with hard
> copy already sent to Scott Daruty and Johnny Crosbie. You can tell the
> folks at Patterson Palmer who directed you to offend me that the
> emails contain exactly the same documents that Greg Byrne and Johnny
> Crosbie received and that you should all prepare to argue every word
> within in them. The first email contains a file called Big Day. It
> contains every document I served upon Two Solicitors Generals Theodore
> Olson and Anne McLellan before I ran for Parliament and Olson quit his
> job on June 24th immediately after Johnny Crosbie told Stevey Harper
> to shut up about the Arar Inquiry. the second file is called Big
> Canada Add and it is a copy of the documents served upon my political
> opponents while running for Parliament. Last but not least are what
> was added to the first to pile of documents and then served upon
> Patterson and Palmer by way of Greg Byrne.
> Scott Daruty is receiving the documents within "Big Day" and other
> interesting material that Magna should find quite interesting to say
> the least. Magna really made my day when they appointed Cellucci and
> their new VP. I is comical that he is going to lobby the government
> about horse racing especially after listening to what is recorded on a
> lot of the tapes and the fact that the top dog of the RCMP had to
> teach that dumb Yankee how to ride a horse last summer so that he
> would not make an ass out himself at the Calgary Stampede. This was
> almost as rich as when Martin sent Franky McKenna to Washington after
> he and I had a spit and chew about dogs and pork. At least I am clever
> enough to realize when I am a lucky man and how to make the best out
> of a golden opportunity to see that justice is served upon some very
> nasty bastards. I am very pissed off but still having more fun than
> ten men. I love cornering lawyers and listening to them stutter and
> try to duck the issues. I will wager that you are having a bad day
> too. EH Della? It looks good on you if you are. Why not get mad? I
> hope you share your anger with the others at Patterson and Palmer and
> start bitchin about me. Never forget all I want is the truth from you.
> It will cost you nothing. Why do you want to stand with crooks and
> liars for a days pay? I bet you have witnessed lots of dirty dealings.
> I truly beleive that there is no honour in your work. To me working
> for lawyers is like a lady being sent to a nunnery in Medieval times.
> I share ol Shake's opinion of such a place. Times changes nothing
> lawyers still work for Jesuits. Look around downtown St John's and
> call me a liar. I dare ya. Even the name of the town says it all.
> Cya'll in Court:)
> David R. Amos
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca ; moto maniac ; cei@nbnet.nb.ca ;
> kbar@nbnet.nb.ca ; danthebagelman@msn.com ; info@electtomobrien.com ;
> lcampenella@ledger.com ; jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; newsonline@bbc.co.uk ;
> Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ;
> Jack.Hart@state.ma.us ; Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us ;
> Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us ; dfpletters@dailyfreepress.com
> Cc: zedp@parl.gc.ca ; rmooremp@nb.sympatico.ca ; savoya2@parl.gc.ca ;
> thompg@nb.sympatico.ca ; john_kerry@kerry.senate.gov ;
> martib@sen.parl.gc.ca ; dougchristielaw@shaw.ca ;
> Mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ; Stephen.Murphy@ci.boston.ma.us ;
> Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ;
> johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ; brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca ;
> McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca ; david@lutz.nb.ca ;
> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; ethics@harvard.edu ;
> INFO7@elections.ca ; inquiry.admin@bellnet.ca ; cotlei@parl.gc.ca
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:33 AM
> Subject: RE: Me versus Patterson and Palmer
>
>
> Hey Della,
> I see that Stevey Boy is on vacation and told me to contact you. I am
> happy to hear that he is saving all of my emails in a special spot for
> some apparent future litigation. I keep very good records as well and
> look forward to his argument but I will wager that I sue him first.
> I see by the following Affidavit you witnessed and Stevey Boy filed in
> court that every lawyer within Patterson Palmer is a flat out liar. I
> served Greg Byryne in Fredericton myself with witnesses before Byron
> Prior served everyone else in Newfoundland. If Byrne did not share the
> info with his buddy Johnny Crosbie, it is not my fault. Yet I suspect
> that he did so out of the gate because he sent me an email in which it
> appears that he was conferring with many others about me and my
> concerns. It was too funny that Byrne clicked the wrong button and
> forwarded his email to me as well.
> I also sent many of your people the same emails that I sent to Byrne
> and May as soon as I got out off jail last October and Stevey Boy
> first contacted Byron Prior and I had called him. (Thank you for
> making a transcript of my voicemail and filing it in court for me. It
> is quite hard for me to make lawyers even admit that I exist) Some of
> the aforesaid emails were responded to by other members of your law
> firm byway of their computers like Stevey Boy's just did. At least
> computers are far more honest than the lawyers that own them. I am
> compelled to rely on the integrity of their machines and the ability
> of their computers and mine to keep perfect records. (Never forget I
> am being prosecuted for sending an email to a lawyer I have been
> litigating against for years who even went as far to fraudulently
> create a document bearing my signature) Because of the fact I can
> prove contact with many members of the law firm you work for, they can
> never say that they did not know of my concerns and allegations long
> before Stevey complained of Byron Prior's actions on behalf of his
> client Billy Matthews. He only went forward with his malicious threat
> when he thought my goose was cooked down here. There is quite simply
> no way you could have prepared his filing on January 21st and he had
> Judge green sign it in the time between Byron had served it and the
> Judge signed it without the Bastards reading our private emails and
> listening to our phone calls. I sent the last email containing the
> words to Byron's counterclaim just before I went to court that morning
> and he only managed to see it filed by 3 PM Newfy time. You may be a
> fast typists but the courts don't work that fast unless they are
> covering up something big time. No know as well as I that is true
> because the judge and Stevey Boy do not even want other lawyers to
> view the public record. Small wonder he took a vacation. If Stevey Boy
> has any semblance of a conscience he no doubt has trouble dealing with
> himself. I can only wonder if he and Johnny Crosbie are singing for
> more tequila right now.
> As you no doubt know I am preparing to defend myself in a criminal
> trial in the USA and filing some rather profound civil lawsuits in
> Canada and the USA that will make the whining of Billy Matthews in
> Newfoundland Supreme court seem rather comical. I will be filing
> copies of the documents you no doubt helped create for Stevey Boy May
> on behalf of your law firm in many courts.
> If Greg Byrne, the former Minister of Justice and Attorney General of
> New Brunswick had acted ethically last September while I was in Canada
> and under Brad Green's jurisdiction I would not have been falsely
> imprisoned in the USA the following month. I will be suing him, your
> law firm and many others for personal injury and conspiracy to cover
> up the many crimes practiced against my Clan and I. My question to
> you, Della is why don't I sue you too? As you can see if you have read
> my work my battle is with corrupt lawyers not layman. I would settle
> with you in a heartbeat for costs if you would be honest about all
> that you know to be true. If you decide to go against me I suggest
> that you seek legal counsel outside of your law firm or in fact all of
> Newfoundland. I am about to take on every damned lawyer within the
> Newfoundland law Society. You would not be wise to doubt me before you
> have a look at my work in the USA. I will deal with Newfys under the
> heading of fun after I have embarrassed the Yankees.
> I will give you a call as Stevey Boy suggests so that at least you can
> understand that I am not an unreasonable person and not the sort of
> person that lawyers claim that I am. I am just a simple, sincere and
> serious man that refuses to play the wicked games lawyers play. I am
> willing to die in order to expose the truth. No lawyer can say that.
> they love money to much to be willing to miss the chance to spend it.
> Judge me for yourself and your own best interests before you choose
> whom to stand with.
> Whether you believe me or not I am battling for your rights as well as
> my own. I am forwarding this email to many ordinary people like you
> and me. To Hell with the lawyers and politicians. They do what they do
> for personal gain not public service. Their concerns are lucre not
> justice and everybody knows it. All I did was go to great lengths to
> prove it. There is no need for you and I to argue about simple truths.
> As far as I am concerned up until the time you received this email all
> you have done is type things and witness signatures. However you
> cannot say that anymore.
> My pending phone call to you is not harassment. I need the Yankee
> phone bill record of my call to you in order to assist in the defence
> of my freedom in the USA. Stevey Boy told me to call ya. Please be
> nice. After today you can't say that you are not involved in my false
> imprisonment in the USA. I am doing no more or less than Stevey Boy
> and his malicious clients would do if the same thing had happened to
> them. If Billy Matthews had been summoned to the USA while he was
> running for his seat in Parliament to be presecuted by an unsigned
> criminal complaint and then held without bail under the charges of
> "other", he would be more pissed off than I am.
> Cya'll in Court:)
> David R. Amos
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "May, Steve"
> To: "David Amos"
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:32 PM
> Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Dan and Tom Remember me
>
>
> Mr. May is out of the office till 11 April 2005. He will not be
> checking his e-mail. Please contact Della Hart at 709-570-5527
> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 709-570-5527
> end_of_the_skype_highlighting or dhart@pattersonpalmer.ca if you
> require immediate assistance.
>
>
> 2005 01 T 0010
> IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR
> TRIAL DIVISION
> BETWEEN:
> WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF
> AND:
> BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT
>
> AND BETWEEN:
> BYRON PRIOR DEFENDANT/PLAINTIFF
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: WILLIAM MATTHEWS PLAINTIFF/FIRST DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: T. ALEX HICKMAN SECOND DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: THOMAS MARSHALL THIRD DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: DANNY WILLIAMS FOURTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: EDWARD M. ROBERTS FIFTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: JOHN CROSBIE SIXTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
>
> AND: PATTERSON PALMER SEVENTH DEFENDANT
> BY COUNTERCLAIM
> SUMMARY OF CURRENT DOCUMENTCourt File Number(s):2005 01 T 0010Date of
> Filing of Document:25 January 2005Name of Filing Party or
> Person:Stephen J. MayApplication to which Document being filed
> relates:Amended Application of the Plaintiff/Defendant by Counterclaim
> to maintain an Order restricting publication, to strike portions of
> the Statement of Defence, strike the Counterclaim in it’s entirety,
> and to refer this proceeding to case management.Statement of purpose
> in filing:To maintain an Order restricting publication, to strike
> portions of the Statement of Defence, strike the Counterclaim in its
> entirety and refer this proceeding to case management.
> A F F I D A V I T
>
> I, Stephen J. May, of the City of St. John’s, in the Province of
> Newfoundland and Labrador, Barrister and Solicitor, make oath and say
> as follows:
>
> THAT I am a Partner in the St. John’s office of PATTERSON PALMER
> solicitors for William Matthews, the Member of Parliament for
> Random-Burin-St. George’s in the Parliament of Canada.
>
> THAT Mr. Matthews originally retained Mr. Edward Roberts, Q.C. on or
> about 30 April 2002 after Mr. Byron Prior, the Defendant/Plaintiff by
> Counterclaim, had made allegations against Mr. Matthews in a
> publication called “My Inheritance - The truth - Not Fiction: A Town
> with a Secret”. In that publication, the allegation was made that Mr.
> Matthews had had sex with a girl who had been prostituted by her
> mother. That girl was alleged to have been Mr. Prior’s sister.
>
> THAT upon being retained, Mr. Edward Roberts wrote a letter to Mr.
> Prior. That letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit “1" to my
> Affidavit.
>
> THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts’ letter to Mr. Prior, Mr. Roberts
> received a 1 May 2002 e-mail from Mr. Prior. That e-mail is attached
> as Exhibit “2".
>
> THAT subsequent to Mr. Roberts receipt of the e-mail, Mr. Prior swore
> an Affidavit acknowledging that what had been said in that publication
> was false. That Affidavit is attached as Exhibit “3" to my Affidavit.
> Following Mr. Roberts’ receipt of that Affidavit, Mr. Matthews advised
> that he was satisfied not to pursue the matter any further and our
> firm closed our file.
>
> THAT on or about 25 October 2004, I was retained by Mr. Matthews
> following his gaining knowledge that a web site, made a series of
> allegations against him relating to my having sex with a girl of
> approximately 12 years old through to an approximate age of 15 years
> old. It also accused him of being a father of one of her children and
> accused him of having raped that girl. Upon checking the web site I
> saw that Byron Prior, the Defendant, had been identified as the author
> of the material on the site.
>
> THAT Mr. Matthews instructed me to write Mr. Prior, to remind him of
> the fact that the allegations had been admitted to being false through
> a 16 May 2002 Affidavit to advise him of Mr. Matthews’ intentions to
> commence legal proceedings if the comments were not removed from the
> web site. A copy of my letter to Mr. Prior is attached as Exhibit “4"
> to this Affidavit.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit “5" a transcript from a 5 November 2004
> voicemail left by David Amos, identified in the voicemail as a friend
> of Mr. Prior.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit “6" a portion of a 6 November 2004 e-mail
> from Mr. Amos.
>
> THAT until I received his voicemail and e-mail, I had never heard of Mr. Amos.
>
> THAT Mr. Amos has continued to send me e-mail since his 5 November
> e-mail. Including his 6 November 2004 e-mail, I have received a total
> of 15 e-mails as of 23 January 2005. All do not address Mr. Matthews’
> claim or my involvement as Mr. Matthews’ solicitor. I attach as
> Exhibit “7" a portion of a 12 January 2005 e-mail that Mr. Amos sent
> to me but originally came to my attention through Ms. Lois Skanes
> whose firm had received a copy. This e-mail followed the service of
> the Statement of Claim on 11 January 2005 on Mr. Prior. I also attach
> as Exhibit “8" a copy of a 19 January 2005 e-mail from Mr. Amos.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit “9" a copy of a 22 November 2004 letter
> addressed to me from Edward Roberts, the Lieutenant Governor of
> Newfoundland and Labrador covering a 2 September 2004 letter from Mr.
> Amos addressed to John Crosbie, Edward Roberts, in his capacity as
> Lieutenant Governor, Danny Williams, in his capacity as Premier of
> Newfoundland and Labrador, and Brian F. Furey, President of the Law
> Society of Newfoundland and Labrador. I requested a copy of this
> letter from Government House after asking Mr. Roberts if he had
> received any correspondence from Mr. Amos during his previous
> representation of Mr. Matthews. He advised me that he received a
> letter since becoming Lieutenant Governor, portions of which involved
> his representation of Mr. Matthews. Mr. Roberts’ letter also covered
> his reply to Mr. Amos.
>
> THAT I attach as Exhibit “10" an e-mail from Mr. Amos received on
> Sunday, 23 January 2005.
>
> THAT I swear this Affidavit in support of the Application to strike
> Mr. Prior’s counterclaim.
>
>
> SWORN to before me at
> St. John’s, Province of Newfoundland
> and Labrador this 24th day of
> January, 2005.
>
>
> Signed by Della Hart STEPHEN J. MAY Signature
> STAMP
> DELLA HART
> A Commissioner for Oaths in and for
> the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.
> My commission expires on December 31, 2009.
> The Conservatives in Canada have very Punky Dory EH Tommy Boy?
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:26 PM
> The Cato dudes ain't got nothin on me when it comes to letter writing.
> Here is where I am teasing abunch of dumb Yankees. The whole world
> calls our Newfys dumb. So what does that say of Danny williams the
> Premier? He is a Rhodes Scholar that works for free. Is he dumb or
> evil? I will have to ask the Aspen Dudes have I attend Tommy's little
> hoe down EH?
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:38 PM
> http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2005/03/former_dhs_insp.html#comments
> HMMM no link we will try this way ok?
>
> Posted by: David R. Amos at March 30, 2005 05:40 PM
> I'm very proud to have had such a person as David Amos, help us with
> our fight and the legal work. I will never be able to repay him.Thank
> you David.
> Byron Prior
>
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>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:35:16 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: I called the crook from Calgary Jason Kenney to remind
> him of the documents his office recieved from during the election of
> the 40th Parliament
> To: breitg@parl.gc.ca, hollam@parl.gc.ca, Mourani.Ma@parl.gc.ca,
> wrzesb@parl.gc.ca, Kania.A@parl.gc.ca, McColeman.P@parl.gc.ca,
> gloves@parl.gc.ca, rick@ricknorlock.ca, macked@parl.gc.ca,
> Desnoyers.L@parl.gc.ca, rathgb0@parl.gc.ca, SECU@parl.gc.ca
> Cc: zorroboy2009@hotmail.com, tony@peoplestandup.ca,
> waterwarcrimes@gmail.com, whistleblower <whistleblower@ctv.ca>,
> "ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca"<ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>, vickiconrad
> <vickiconrad@nsndp.ca>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 19:33:09 -0300
> Subject: Fwd: I called the crook from Calgary Jason Kenney to remind
> him of the documents his office recieved from during the election of
> the 40th Parliament
> To: peter.teasdale@gov.ab.ca, larry.stein@gov.ab.ca
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:52:15 -0300
> Subject: I called the crook from Calgary Jason Kenney to remind him of
> the documents his office recieved from during the election of the 40th
> Parliament
> To: kennej@parl.gc.ca, godiny <godiny@parl.gc.ca>, toewsv1
> <toewsv1@mts.net>, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca>, robin reid
> <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, "ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca"
> <ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca>, tony <tony@peoplestandup.ca>,
> WaterWarCrimes <waterwarcrimes@gmail.com>, "Wayne.Lang"
> <Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "John.DeWinter"
> <John.DeWinter@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, billestabrooks
> <billestabrooks@navnet.net>
> Cc: pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "info@gg.ca"<info@gg.ca>, info
> <info@wildrosealliance.ca>, info <info@greenparty.ca>, IgnatM
> <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>, LaytoJ <LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>
>
> His snotty help picked a very bad day to play games with me EH Vic
> Toews? Although Kenney never cared about my human rights as he laughed
> while i was falsely imprisoned and my children were sexualy harassed
> and threatened at least he cannot deny receiving my documents twice
> thanx to an ethical government computer EH stevey boy Harper?
>
> http://www.jasonkenney.ca/EN/contact_jason/
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Minister <Minister@cic.gc.ca>
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:39:27 -0400
> Subject: RE: Sept 23rd is coming fast for another Yankee War Resister
> eh Mr Harper?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> La version française suit.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 04:09:14 -0300
> Subject: Sept 23rd is coming fast for another Yankee War Resister eh Mr Harper?
> To: "Harper.S@parl.gc.ca"<Harper.S@parl.gc.ca>, Minister@cic.gc.ca,
> Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca, resisters@sympatico.ca,
> Layton.J@parl.gc.ca
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> Chow.O@parl.gc.ca, Christopherson.D@parl.gc.ca, Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca,
> Crowder.J@parl.gc.ca, Cullen.N@parl.gc.ca, Davies.L@parl.gc.ca,
> Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca, Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca, Julian.P@parl.gc.ca,
> Marston.W@parl.gc.ca, Martin.P@parl.gc.ca, Martin.T@parl.gc.ca,
> Masse.B@parl.gc.ca, Mathyssen.I@parl.gc.ca, McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca,
> Nash.P@parl.gc.ca, Priddy.P@parl.gc.ca, Savoie.D@parl.gc.ca,
> Siksay.B@parl.gc.ca, Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca, Wasylycia-Leis.J@parl.gc.ca
>
> When do ya think one will ignore his dumb lawyer such as Jeffry House,
> sprout some balls, print a pdf file and say my name?
>
> Before polling day would benefit all Canadains not just the wannabes and the
> wannabe Prime Ministers eh Jacky boy Layton? .
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> If your too chicken to print a pdf file perhaps you can watch Youtube then
> EH Jacky Boy Layton?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga2phTOe9es
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPkRu0dNPUc
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:16 PM
> Subject: Maybe Corey Glass should contact me before Harper gives him the
> boot EH? 506 756 8687
> To: nelsonresisters@gmail.com, montrealresisters@hotmail.com,
> vlannon@pacificcoast.net, goresisters@gmail.com, londonresisters@yahoo.ca,
> vanresisters@yahoo.ca
> Cc: Minister@cic.gc.ca, Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca,
> resisters@sympatico.ca
>
>
> http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hyjp9Xz2qeSoFhQcp6NFNoe97D-Q
>
> His purported friend Lee Zaslofsky would not give me his contact
> number for some strange reason i will never understand.
>
> I would lay odds that would have be different if I had been elected
> in the last couple of elections or was player within one of the
> established politcal parties. It certainly appears to me that fellow
> concerned Canadian citizens don't count to American war protesters and
> their outspoken supporters unless they are politcally connected EH
> Mikey Ignatieff AKA Canada's Prince of Darkness south of the 49th?
>
> That said I cannot begin to try to help anyone unless they learn how
> to help themselves and that starts with picking up the phone retuning
> calls and answering emails. N'est Pas Stevey Boy Harper?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:17:23 -0300
> Subject: Your tally of blogs about me to date dictates that maybe you
> can inspire a war resister such as Corey Glass to contact me before
> Harper gives him the boot.
> To: danf@danf.net, pm@pm.gc.ca
> Cc: irishmike02@yahoo.com, common_ills@yahoo.com, Dion.S@parl.gc.ca,
> Bevilacqua.M@parl.gc.ca, vancouvercatholicworker@yahoo.ca
>
> Like you everybody thinks I am a nut excepting of course Stevey Boy
> Harper and the dummy Dion. They just flat out hate me. Nest Pas?
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/06/david-amos-vs-bcs-liberal-premier.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/05/david-amos-high-noon-email-to-ottawa.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/05/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-4.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-3.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-2.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-1b.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/03/3rd-part-political-runs-in-maritimes.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/05/nfld-whistleblower-dodges-libel-charge.html
>
> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/05/cow-mutilation-new-brunswick-landgrab.html

--- On Wed, 12/15/10, info wrote:

From: info
Subject: RE: I just called from 902 800 0369
To: "'David Amos'", "jennifer.wall@ncc-ccn.ca", "info"
Cc: "jjussup@bankofcanada.ca", "Stuart.MacPherson@cbsa-asfc.gc.ca", "maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca"
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:44 AM

Dear Mr. Amos,

Thank you for both your email and voice mail messages of December 14, 2010  to the National Capital Commission Ombudsman Office.  Please find attached an acknowledgement letter signed by Ms. Laura Bruneau, Ombudsman, in regards to your email.

 

Have a good day.

 

Suzanne Godin

Executive Assistant

National Capital Commission Ombudsman

  

 

---

From: David Amos [mailto:myson333@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:14 PM
To: jennifer.wall@ncc-ccn.ca; info
Cc: jjussup@bankofcanada.ca; Stuart.MacPherson@cbsa-asfc.gc.ca; maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca
Subject: I just called from 902 800 0369

 

 

From: David Amos
Subject: Birgitta its me Dave I just called from 902 800 0369
To: birgitta@this.is
Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 8:10 PM

Thanks again

Anyway there is a lot of text in this email that I doubt you will have time to read but you should at least save it for your records and/or forward it to anyone with my blessings and thanks. Please check out the pdf files attached and compare the dates in November 2003 to the missing info in the links to the US Senate Banking Commitee records found immediately below to understand that I am a real and very sincere whistleblower.

 http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=102e41a1-f540-4ce5-a701-b6d09b7606b1

 http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2

Warmest Regards and Veritas Vincit

David Raymond Amos

PS the lawyer Mellish speaks for Iceland in the Maritimes Both he and your Ambassador in Ottawa hav been laughing at me for years

--- On Tue, 12/7/10, Mellish, Robert wrote:

From: Mellish, Robert
Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Howcome Julian Assange did not turn to IMMMI for help and himself in to the cops in Iceland
To: "David Amos"
Received: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 7:07 PM

Thank you for your message. I will be away from my office for the day, with no access to e-mail. For urgent issues, please contact my assistant, Carly MacDonald, at cmacdonald@pattersonlaw or (902) 405-8103 .
- Bob Mellish


--- On Tue, 12/7/10, Fjármálaeftirlitið - Fyrirspurn wrote:

From: Fjármálaeftirlitið - Fyrirspurn
Subject: Staðfesting á móttöku
To: "David Amos"
Received: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 7:07 PM

Fjármálaeftirlitið hefur móttekið erindi yðar. Erindinu verður svarað við fyrsta tækifæri. Vakin er athygli á heimasíðu Fjármálaeftirlitsins, http://www.fme.is. Þar má finna ýmsar upplýsingar ásamt svörum við algengum spurningum:  http://www.fme.is/?PageID=863.

 

The Financial Supervisory Authority (FME) of Iceland confirms the receipt of your e-mail. Your e-mail will be answered as soon as possible. We would like to point out our website, http://www.fme.is. There you can find information and answeres to frequently asked questions: http://www.fme.is/?PageID=864.

 

 

Kveðja / Best Regards

Fjármálaeftirlitið / Financial Supervisory Authority, Iceland

Sími / Tel.: (+354) 525 2700

E-mail: fme@fme.is

Http://www.fme.is

 

 

Fjármálaeftirlitið gerir fyrirvara við tölvupóst: http://www.fme.is/?PageID=383

FME‘s e-mail disclaimer: http://www.fme.is/?PageID=384

--- On Tue, 12/7/10, David Amos wrote:

From: David Amos
Subject: Howcome Julian Assange did not turn to IMMMI for help and himself in to the cops in Iceland
To: postur@fjr.stjr.is, johanna.sigurdardottir@fel.stjr.is, postur@for.stjr.is, sjs@althingi.is, emb.ottawa@mfa.is, rmellish@pattersonlaw.ca, irisbirgisdottir@yahoo.ca, marie@mariemorneau.com, dfranklin@franklinlegal.com, egilla@althingi.is, william.turner@exsultate.ca, klm@althingi.is, mail@fjr.stjr.is, jonina.s.larusdottir@ivr.stjr.is, fyrirspurn@fme.is, audur@audur.is, fme@fme.is, info@landsbanki.is, sedlabanki@sedlabanki.is, tif@tif.is, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Cc: smari@immi.is, friends@sunshinepress.org, "danfour", terry.seguin@cbc.ca, "oldmaison@yahoo.com", william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, cdhowe@cdhowe.org, desparois.sylviane@fcac.gc.ca, plee@stu.ca, Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca, wendy.williams@landsbanki.is, aih@cbc.ca, Milliken.P@parl.gc.ca
Received: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 7:06 PM

I thought you dudes with you IMMI bragged that you were gonna protect whistleblowers.

This nasty bastard working within IMMI writes a lot too. Too bad so sad for all that he did not learn how to read before he opted to insult decent people who are actuallly on your side.EH?

http://www.smarimccarthy.com/

From: David Amos
Subject: Fwd: WikiLeaks may be under attack
To: infoam@fredericton.cbc.ca, news@fredfm.ca
Cc: editor@wikileaks.org, wl-office@sunshinepress.org, oldmaison@yahoo.com, acampbell@ctv.ca, maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca
Received: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 10:31 AM

From: Smári McCarthy <smari@immi.is>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 03:02:17 +0000
Subject: Re: ATTN Julian Assange tough question for ya Wikileaks and Iceland knew about this happening after I contacted you correct?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

You have proven your ability to bother a lot of busy people with a wall
of text that entirely lacks context. Can you now prove your ability to
stop doing that and leave everybody alone?

If you *do* have context, feel free to explain what the hell it is
you're on about, but to one person at a time, in clear, sensible
sentences, whilst remembering that the person in question is most likely
receiving hundreds of such mails a day and would appreciate brevity and
too-the-pointness.

 - S

On 08/24/2010 11:24 PM, David Amos wrote:
> On 3/10/10, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hoka Hey to all and to Julian Assange in particular,
>>
>> This is my response to your tip. I truly do thank you for it but I
>> have some obvious questions. I think it fair in the spirit of full
>> disclosure as a proper whistleblower to make my concerns well known to
>> all.  I watched your videos. I can tell that you and your Wilileaks
>> must agree with mypoint of view or the existence of your website and
>> your motives will remain suspect to me. The obvious question I have
>> out of the gate is whereas you and WikiLeaks have been ignoring me for
>> so long what caused you to decide that I was worth sending this timely
>> info to now? Rest assured I have some more questions.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Julian Assange)"<editor@wikileaks.org>
>> To: <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 2:15 PM
>> Subject: Al Jazeera on Iceland's plan for a press safe haven
>>
>> FYI: Al-Jazeera's take on Iceland's proposed media safe haven
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbGiPjIE1pE
>>
>> More info http://immi.is/
>>
>> Julian Assange
>> Editor WikiLeaks
>> http://wikileaks.org/
>>

Clearly I ran with it eh?



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: WikiLeaks <wl-office@sunshinepress.org>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:09:22 +0100 (BST)
Subject: WikiLeaks may be under attack
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

WikiLeaks may be under attack.

You were generous enough to write to us, but we have not had the labor
resources to respond.

Your support is important to us. Please read all of this email to
understand what is going on. We apologize for not getting back to you
before. It is not through any lack of interest on our part, but an
enforced lack of resources.

One of our alleged sources, a young US intelligence analyst, Bradley
Manning, has been detained and shipped to a US military prison in
Kuwait, where he is being held without trail. Mr. Manning is alleged
to have acted according to his conscious and leaked to us the
Collateral Murder video and the video of a massacre that took place in
Afghanistan last year at Garani.

The Garani massacre, which we are still working on, killed over 100
people, mostly children.

Mr. Manning allegedly also sent us 260,000 classified US Department
cables, reporting on the actions of US Embassy's engaging in abusive
actions all over the world. We have denied the allegation, but the US
government is acting as if the allegation is true and we do have a lot
of other material that exposes human rights abuses by the United
States government.

Mr. Manning was allegedly exposed after talking to an unrelated
"journalist" who then worked with the US government to detain him.

Some background on the Manning case:

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/06/11/transcript-daniel-ellsberg-says-he-fears-us-might-assasinate-wikileaks-founder/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/leak/
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/wikileaks-chat/
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/state-department-anxious/
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2010/06/143011.htm

[ note that there are some questions about the Wired reportage, see:
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/13/video-wikileaks-foun.html#comment-809677
]

WikiLeaks a small organization going through enormous growth and
operating in an adverserial, high-security environment which can make
communication time consuming and the acquisition of new staff and
volunteers, also difficult since they require high levels of trust.

To try and deal with our growth and the current difficult situation,
we want to get you to work together with our other supporters to set
up a "Friends of WikiLeaks" group in your area. We have multiple
supporters in most countries and would like to see them be a strong
and independent force.

Please write to friends@sunshinepress.org if you are interested in
helping with Friends of WikiLeaks in your area. You will receive
further instructions.

We also have significant unexpected legal costs (for example flying a
legal team to Kuwait, video production. Collateral Murder production
costs were $50,000 all up).

Any financial contributions will be of IMMEDIATE assistance.

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Special:Support

Please donate and tell the world that you have done so. Encourage all
your friends to follow the example you set, after all, courage is
contagious.

Julian Assange
Editor in Chief
WIKILEAKS

>>>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> > From: postur@fjr.stjr.is
>>>>>> > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:06:39 +0000
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: RE: Iceland and Bankers etc I must ask the obvious
>>>>>> > question. Why have you people ignored me for three years?
>>>>>> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Dear David Amos
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Unfortunately there has been a considerable delay in responding to
>>>>>> > incoming letters due to heavy workload and many inquiries to our
>>>>>> > office.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We appreciate the issue raised in your letter. We have set up a web
>>>>>> > site
>>>>>> > www.iceland.org where we have gathered various practical
>>>>>> > information
>>>>>> > regarding the economic crisis in Iceland.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Greetings from the Ministry of Finance.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Tilvísun í mál: FJR08100024
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >   Frá: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >   Dags: 29.01.2009 19:17:43
>>>>>> >   Til: johanna.sigurdardottir@fel. stjr.is, postur@for.stjr.is,
>>>>>> > aih@cbc.ca,
>>>>>> > Milliken.P@parl.gc.ca, sjs@althingi.is, emb.ottawa@mfa.is,
>>>>>> > rmellish@pattersonlaw.ca, irisbirgisdottir@yahoo.ca,
>>>>>> > marie@mariemorneau.com, dfranklin@franklinlegal.com,
>>>>>> > egilla@althingi.is,
>>>>>> > william.turner@exsultate.ca, klm@althingi.is, mail@fjr.stjr.is,
>>>>>> > Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca, wendy.williams@landsbanki.is,
>>>>>> > cdhowe@cdhowe.org,
>>>>>> > desparois.sylviane@fcac.gc.ca, plee@stu.ca, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
>>>>>> > <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "t.j.burke@gnb.ca"<t.j.burke@gnb.ca>, Dan
>>>>>> > Fitzgerald <danf@danf.net>, jonina.s.larusdottir@ivr.stjr. is
>>>>>> >   Afrit: fyrirspurn@fme.is, audur@audur.is, fme@fme.is,
>>>>>> > info@landsbanki.is, sedlabanki@sedlabanki.is, tif@tif.is
>>>>>> >   Efni: RE: Iceland and Bankers etc I must ask the obvious
>>>>>> > question.
>>>>>> > Why
>>>>>> > have    you people ignored me for three years?
>>>>>> > ------------------------------ ---------------------------
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > FYI Some folks in Canada are watching your actions or lack thereof
>>>>>> > more closely than others. As you well know I am one.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://www.topix.com/forum/ world/canada/ TJHJ5HP501LN7C4MV#lastPost
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/ 4304560/Speaker-Iceland-etc
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://davidamos.blogspot.com/ 2006/05/harper-and-bankers. html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You folks should not deny certain responses that I have received
>>>>>> > over
>>>>>> > the course of the last few months from your country CORRECT?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 13:57:55 -0300
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: Regarding your enquiry to the Prime Ministry of
>>>>>> > Iceland
>>>>>> > To: postur@for.stjr.is
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanx
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 10/8/08, postur@for.stjr.is<postur@for.stjr.is> wrote:
>>>>>> > David Raymond Amos
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Your enquiry has been received by the Prime Ministry of Iceland and
>>>>>> > waits
>>>>>> > attendance.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thank you.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: Fjármálaeftirlitið - Fyrirspurn <fyrirspurn@fme.is>
>>>>>> > Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:23:41 -0000
>>>>>> > Subject: Staðfesting á móttöku
>>>>>> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Fjármálaeftirlitið hefur móttekið erindi yðar. Erindinu verður
>>>>>> > svarað
>>>>>> > við fyrsta tækifæri. Vakin er athygli á heimasíðu
>>>>>> > Fjármálaeftirlitsins, http://www.fme.is. Þar má finna ýmsar
>>>>>> > upplýsingar ásamt svörum við algengum spurningum:
>>>>>> > http://www.fme.is/?PageID=863.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The Financial Supervisory Authority (FME) of Iceland confirms the
>>>>>> > receipt of your e-mail. Your e-mail will be answered as soon as
>>>>>> > possible. We would like to point out our website,
>>>>>> > http://www.fme.is.
>>>>>> > There you can find information and answeres to frequently asked
>>>>>> > questions: http://www.fme.is/?PageID=864.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Kveðja / Best Regards
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Fjármálaeftirlitið / Financial Supervisory Authority, Iceland
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sími / Tel.: (+354) 525 2700
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:53:47 -0300
>>>>>> > Subject: I just called to remind the Speaker, the Bankers and the
>>>>>> > Icelanders that I still exist EH Mrs Mrechant, Bob Rae and Iggy?
>>>>>> > To: Milliken.P@parl.gc.ca, sjs@althingi.is, emb.ottawa@mfa.is,
>>>>>> > rmellish@pattersonlaw.ca, irisbirgisdottir@yahoo.ca,
>>>>>> > marie@mariemorneau.com, dfranklin@franklinlegal.com,
>>>>>> > egilla@althingi.is, william.turner@exsultate.ca
>>>>>> > Cc: Rae.B@parl.gc.ca, Ignatieff.M@parl.gc.ca,
>>>>>> > lebrem@sen.parl.gc.ca,
>>>>>> > merchp@sen.parl.gc.ca, coolsa@sen.parl.gc.ca, olived@sen.parl.gc.ca
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > All of you should review the documents and CD that came with this
>>>>>> > letter ASAP EH?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/ 2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/ 4304560/Speaker-Iceland-etc
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/ 5352095/Tony-Merchant-and- Yankees
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Perhaps Geir Haarde and Steingrimur Sigfusson should call me at 506
>>>>>> > 756
>>>>>> > 8687
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Veritas Vincit
>>>>>> > David Raymond Amos
>>>>>>

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-poorest-province-equalization-payments-1.5400170

'Tough to take': New Brunswick grabs unwanted title as Canada's poorest province

Province will begin receiving most equalization funding per capita

 

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Dec 18, 2019 5:30 AM AT



New Brunswick Finance Minister Ernie Steeves welcomes the $187 million in extra equalization funding he will get from Ottawa for his budget next year, but is unhappy his province needs more assistance than any other province. (CBC)


New Brunswick has officially assumed the title of Canada's poorest province and will begin receiving the most funding per capita from the federal government's equalization support program, starting in April.

The bottom ranking and the poor economic numbers that caused it are unlocking significant new federal financial support for New Brunswick, but that is cold comfort for ending the longtime reign of Prince Edward Island as Canada's neediest province, according to New Brunswick Finance Minister Ernie Steeves.

"Wow. That's tough to take," said Steeves in an interview Tuesday.

"When your transfer payments go up, it's a sign your economy is weak. I'm not crazy about that. We want New Brunswick to be a have province, not a have-not province."


Federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau met with provincial ministers and finance officials this week. His department released figures showing New Brunswick would receive the highest per-capita amount of equalization payments next year, replacing P.E.I. as Canada's most have-not province. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)


The federal Finance Department released figures late Monday of what equalization-receiving provinces will qualify for in funding next year.

New Brunswick's share is jumping 9.2 per cent to $2.21 billion, the largest increase among receiving provinces.

A sign of the times

The new amount is calculated by Ottawa to be worth $2,826 per person in New Brunswick, the most ever paid to a province, and a razor-thin $1 per person more than P.E.I. will receive.

It's a remarkable turnaround for both provinces. 

• Bringing clarity to the sometimes murky world of equalization payments

• 5 things to know about Jason Kenney's fight over equalization

Last year, P.E.I. received $65 per person more in equalization than New Brunswick and, as recently as three years ago, was receiving $301 per person more — a sign of how quickly P.E.I.'s economy has closed in and, for its size, surpassed New Brunswick's.

Equalization is a $20.6-billion federal program designed to help poorer provinces provide comparable levels of service to citizens at similar levels of taxation to richer provinces.

Payments are determined by a complex mathematical formula that measures the revenue-generating ability of each province against a national standard. Those with a below average ability to raise money for themselves qualify for funding.


New Brunswick will receive a record $2.21 billion in equalization funding from Ottawa next year to pay for basic government services, like heath care and education, that it cannot afford to pay for on its own. Pictured is the Saint John Regional Hospital. (Wikipedia)


Quebec receives the most money from the program — $13.25 billion next year — but at $1,547 per person in Quebec, it's 45 per cent less than what New Brunswick will get.
Equalization amounts per person:

• New Brunswick: $2,826
• Prince Edward Island: $2,825
• Nova Scotia. $2,184
• Manitoba: $1,815
• Quebec: $1,547

The three territories do not receive equalization, but have a separate financing formula with the federal government.

New Brunswick hike 'stood out,' says prof

Trevor Tombe, an economics professor at the University of Calgary and one of Canada's leading experts on equalization, said the $187-million jump in New Brunswick's equalization allotment next year is remarkable, but the causes will take some time to analyze.

"The increase in New Brunswick is actually something that stood out," said Tombe. "lt'll be interesting to dig deeper to see what's driving that specific change."

The equalization formula uses three years of data and, according to Tombe, next year's payments are based on provincial economic performance recorded between April 2016 and March 2019.

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New Brunswick's GDP growth over those three years was an estimated 3.7 per cent. That's the weakest among equalization-receiving provinces, less than the national average and well below the 10 per cent growth recorded in P.E.I..

New Brunswick has long vowed to get itself off equalization. In 2006, former premier Shawn Graham set a "self-sufficiency" goal to be free of equalization payments by 2026. Instead amounts owing to New Brunswick have grown by $900 million, including by $550 million in just the last three years.

Steeves said being a "have" province is still New Brunswick's goal even though, as Canada's poorest provincial jurisdiction now, the need for equalization is undeniable.

"We want to be the ones that help everybody else, but right now we do need the help," said Steeves.
"We're trying to get our debt back in place where it should be and get it lowered so that we won't need as much help. But right now we are reliant on Canada and Canadians."

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David Raymons Amos 
Surprise Surprise Surprise

David Raymons Amos  

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: "The increase in New Brunswick is actually something that stood out," said Tombe. "lt'll be interesting to dig deeper to see what's driving that specific change."

Yea Right

 

 

David Raymons Amos  

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks Tombe should compare the performance of two Cash Cows NB Power and Hydro-Québec, then ask himself why the Crown Corp in NB is NOT audited by our Auditor General and two auditing firms like they do in Quebec and why Higgy and his minions want to spend 100 million loonies we don't have on "Not So Smart" Meters N'esy Pas?

 

 

Brett Blaikie

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: and why Quebec's electricity exports are not considered "income" for the purposes of calculating equalization payments...

 

 

David Raymons Amos  

Reply to @Brett Blaikie: We export electricity too

Terry Tibbs
Absolutely outstanding job you are doing for (on?) us Mr Higgs.
Make your moms proud.

Graeme Scott

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Read the article. This increase is the result of economic performance from April 2016-March 2019.....the Gallant government was in charge for 33 of those 36 months.

 

 

David Raymons Amos 

Reply to @Graeme Scott: True

 

 

David Raymons Amos

Reply to @Graeme Scott: Did ya listen to what the local Green Meanie Leader was saying this morning on our airwaves?

Justin Time
The size of Government and it's reckless spending habits need to be brought under control. We have a province with a population less than a lot of larger cities in the country yet we have a government bureaucracy so blotted and reckless with tax dollars that we will never climb out of debt if we continue on the current path. Doesn't matter which party is in power. There should be solid guarantees of return on investment for every dollar the province spends instead of throwing money at the wall and hoping some of it sticks.Giveaways to friends of the government and to companies that can well afford to spend their own money have to stop. Taxpayers are fed up with government waste and will continue to show dissatisfaction at the polls.The days of large majority governments are over until they start showing responsible fiscal management. Cynicism with government is at an all time high and with good reason.

Wally E. Bamberger

Reply to @Justin Time: The only spending the government should be involved is on infrastructure and essential services. Let industry and business fend for themselves.

 

 

Henry Thoreau

Reply to @Wally E. Bamberger: I expect then, Wally, that you'd agree that we should stop government subsidies from going to Irving and the natural gas sector?

 

 

David Raymons Amos

Reply to @Justin Time: I agree

 

 

David Raymons Amos

Reply to @Wally E. Bamberger: Ditto

 

 

David Raymons Amos

Reply to @Henry Thoreau: When did you crawl out of your Yankee grave and concern yourself with Maritime politicking?

Mike Bookman
You can start by getting Irving to pay back the $40billion in taxes they stole from the province since 1972. That would be a good start.

Anthony Wright

Reply to @Mike Bookman: The Liberals, if they had the cahoonas, would close offshoring immediately. The problem is there are too many wealthy Canadians financing political parties, preventing the needed tax changes

 

 

Stephen Robertson

Reply to @Anthony Wright: and of course in today's global economy those companies would just pay up. No thought of moving or anything I'm sure.

 

 

Luke Armstrong

Reply to @Mike Bookman:
Good one Mike. I see the city of SJ in dire straights..

 

 

David Allan

Reply to @Anthony Wright:
"The Liberals, if they had the cahoonas, would close offshoring immediately."

Explain what you mean by offshoring and how the federal government can stop it.

Considering that no government has ever done as you expect, why do you single out the Liberals?

 

 

David Raymons Amos

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Reply to @David Allan: Methinks you should check my work dealing with KPMG and their Taxman cohorts since 2002 N'esy Pas?

 

 

David Raymons Amos

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: BINGO

Lewis Taylor
I guess the Higgs "Do nothing" strategy is actually contributing to economic prosperity in a negative way. It proves that saying "NO" to everything does not improve the situation and actually worsens it because others keep moving past you. At least we are first in something...federal welfare handouts... which is probably why he was actually civil with the PM.


Steve Gordon 

Reply to @Lewis Taylor: The calculations for the equalization payment are based on economic performance between Apr '16-Mar '19, so the blame for this falls squarely on former premier gallant, and the two finance ministers of his failed government.

 

 

Stephen Robertson

Reply to @Lewis Taylor: careful there Lewis, you are spinning so hard you might topple over

 

 

Lewis Taylor 

Reply to @Steve Gordon:
Rule 1: always blame predecessor
Rule 2: read rule 1

 

 

Lewis Taylor 

Reply to @Stephen Robertson:
Do you also get confused in a traffic circle?

 

 

Stephen Robertson

Reply to @Lewis Taylor: no, but your jumping at a chance to throw a dig that doesn't work based on not having read the story does. It was not this government who set the parameters of the study. It all involved the time Mr. Gallant was premier. Sometimes it is better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

 

 

David Raymons Amos

Reply to @Stephen Robertson: Methinks he would have no idea what to do if he stopped spinning N'esy Pas?

Greg Miller
So now the poorest province in Canada and we pay the second highest income taxes in Canada. Doesn't seem like the perfect "mix" to attract newcomers--for that matter why are WE here?

David Raymons Amos

Reply to @Greg Miller: Methinks it s only fair if we pay so much taxes then we should get a lot back N'esy Pas?

Wally E. Bamberger
""The increase in New Brunswick is actually something that stood out," said Tombe. "lt'll be interesting to dig deeper to see what's driving that specific change."
... Should be very interesting ...
Pack up everybody in the Province and relocate us to the golden triangle somewhere between Toronto and Windsor might do the trick.
More realistic ... CP Rail's recent announcement of its intention to reclaim much of it's trackage between Montréal and Maine would look good on the Province's resumé.


David Raymons Amos 

Reply to @Wally E. Bamberger: I disagree

Ben Haroldson
Lets annex the U.S.


David Raymons Amos 

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Methinks thats not a wise thing to state when hero Mr Trump is having a bad day EH?

Johnny Jakobs
When you need two of everything, this is the result.


Lewis Taylor

Reply to @Johnny Jakobs:
it is what happens when the focus is hate and bigotry rather than synergy and focus

 

 

David Allan 

Reply to @Johnny Jakobs:
That need is determined by the residents of the province. Over a third of New Brunswickers are French. Since you're complaining, you should learn French and demonstrate the courage of your conviction.

 

 

David Raymons Amos

Reply to @David Allan: Methinks every spin doctor in New Brunswick can speak Chiac at the very least N'esy Pas?

Edmund Bourque
What's the game plan here, folks? The only viable option looks like natural resource extraction...

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Edmund Bourque:
We've been doing that for years, trouble is the proceeds seem to go directly to Bermuda.

 

 

David Raymons Amos 

Reply to @Edmund Bourque: I know my game plan Go Figure

It is not what a lawyer tells me I may do; but what humanity, reason, and justice tell me I ought to do.

Edmund Burke

Sharon Caswell
Irving.


David Raymons Amos  

Reply to @Sharon Caswell: Well put

Omer Samson
I know! NB could make everything it possibly can to bypass and alienate neighbouring Quebec! Has that strategy ever been tried before?


David Raymons Amos 

Reply to @Omer Samson: Methinks you must be a big fan of a cartoon show that been on TV for 30 years N'esy Pas?

Shawn McShane
The poorest province in the country yet we need to squeeze $100 Million more for pilfer meters.




Jeff Leblanc
And we have a former morning radio guy running our finances. Does CBC have a facepalm emoji?






Jeff Leblanc
Costs $85 million a year to provide bilingualism in NB. Might be time to scrap it and the rest of you learn the language. Marc Martin and Anne Berube you can post your rebuttal anytime now, can't 

wait! 

 

 

David Allan

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:

Why shouldn't any province serve the needs of their residents?

Are you going to learn Mi'kmaq?

 

 

Jeff LeBlan

Reply to @David Allan: not all that bright are ya?

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @David Allan: nobody "needs" to speak French they choose to. Last time I checked French is also the minority. Yet nb spends 85 million a year on said minority.

 

 

Art Rowe 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:
Bilingualism has contributed zero gain to either Canada or NB. Nothing but a huge cost to garner votes and placate a minority.
Normally countries try to take the path of the most of the world but not us.

 

 

Neil McPhearson 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: No other province exports more per capita to Quebec than New-Brunswick, and what language do they speak there? The fact that services are offered in French in much of the province also attracts a bunch of Francophone tourists. Do you really think eliminating all French services in NB will result in a net gain of $85M per year?

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc  

Reply to @Neil McPhearson: French government services and road signs do not attract tourists to NB. They come for the beaches and hospitality. Those beaches dont speak French. Yet they still come. Hmmm.

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @Neil McPhearson: wont be necessarily 85 million of net gain but there will be net gain. Any net gain is good.

 

 

Tim Biddiscombe 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: NB has been officially bilingual since the '70's because close to half the population is French. Should all English speakers be forced to learn French?

 

 

Don Cheer

Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe:
Conservatives and anti french people want to frame the issue around a single issue yet have no thoughts why Manitoba, NS & PEI are also receiving massive amounts per individual with no bilingualism.
The bilingual discussion is based on bigotry and nothing else

 

 

Tim Biddiscombe  

Reply to @Don Cheer: Agreed ;) but the Irvings are worth more than the McCains ;)

 

 

David Allan 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:
"nobody "needs" to speak French they choose to."

The same could be said of any language.

Clearly you're unable to actually address my question.

 

 

David Allan  

Reply to @Art Rowe:
"Bilingualism has contributed zero gain to either Canada or NB. Nothing but a huge cost to garner votes and placate a minority. "

It recognizes a factual reality.

If you want to disenfranchise a third of the population, disenfranchise yourself.

 

 

Tim Biddiscombe   

Reply to @David Allan: Good post, David.

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: 35 percent are French not half the population. And I'm probably stretching it. Do some homework before posting. Also this is North America...which runs on English. Learn it get left in the dust.

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @David Allan: Oh I answered and it went right over your head. French are the MINORITY. Sooner you grasp that the better off you will be.

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @Don Cheer: never said OB is the sole reason for NB going down the toilet. 85 million dollars however is nothing to sneeze at. The only folks who benefit from OB are francophones. That is a fact.

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: English is the majority so we shouldn't be forced to learn anything. Because we are the MAJORITY. The French can chose to get in line with us or they can live in a bubble, which they dont...because most can speak English anyway. Surprized?

 

 

Mick Fontana

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Says the guy with a French last name.

 

 

Margeurite Deschampes

Reply to @Jeff TheWhite, we hear ya!

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @Mick Fontana: yep I'm a self loathing Acadian.

 

 

David Allan

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc:
"Oh I answered and it went right over your head. French are the MINORITY."

Tyranny of the majority is not democracy.
Just because a group is 1/3 of the province doesn't mean they should get ignored or treated harshly or otherwise marginalized.

They're real people.

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc  

Reply to @David Allan: hahaha "ignored" hahahaha I spit out my water reading that. Thanks for the laugh that made my day :)

 

 

David Allan 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: It is not bilingualism that is the problem it is Irving running all competition out of the Province then not paying their fair share.

Acadian group launches legal challenge over unilingual lieutenant-governor

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/sanb-legal-unilingual-lieutenant-governor-1.5406601

Acadian group launches legal challenge over unilingual lieutenant-governor

Lt.-Gov. Brenda Murphy says she's determined to improve her French-language skills

 

Cassidy Chisholm· CBC News· Posted: Dec 23, 2019 5:28 PM AT




The office of Lt.-Gov. Brenda Murphy confirmed days after her appointment that she is learning to speak French. (Government of New Brunswick)

The New Brunswick Acadian Society has filed an application with the Court of Queen's Bench to challenge the recent appointment of Lt.-Gov. Brenda Murphy, who speaks only English.

"We want the federal government to ensure that on its list of federal appointments that require proficiency in both official languages, that' lieutenant-governor of New Brunswick' be on that list," said Ali Chiasson, the executive director of the New Brunswick Acadian Society.

New Brunswick is the only province that has two official languages, French and English.


Ali Chiasson, the executive director of the New Brunswick Acadian Society, said the organization wants the position of lieutenant-governor to have a bilingual representative. (Radio-Canada)

Only 11 positions within the federal government must have a bilingual representative, according to the Language Skills Act. Chiasson said the application is calling for the position of lieutenant-governor of New Brunswick be the 12th.

The application also calls for the cancellation of Murphy's appointment, but in an interview with CBC News, Chiasson said that isn't the goal.

"Obviously, our objective here is to get the regulation changed, to get the profile changed on the federal side. This is not about Ms. Murphy.

"This is about a process and the fact that when you appoint a lieutenant-governor for New Brunswick that there's no language profile."

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Gov. Gen. Julie Payette are listed as the respondents in the application, but they have not filed responses with the court.

The application says Trudeau didn't respect his obligations under the linguistic responsibilities section of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms when he recommended Murphy as the lieutenant-governor and later appointed her.
 

Murphy was sworn in as lieutenant-governor on Sept. 8. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

Murphy was sworn in Sept. 8. A few days later, her office confirmed she wasn't ready to do any French interviews but added that she was learning French.

In a news release, Murphy's office said she is aware of the Acadian organization's decision to take action, and she acknowledges the importance of communicating in both official languages.

"I remain committed to improving my French-language skills over the course of my mandate so that I can serve both the French and English communities well," Murphy said in the release.

• Brenda Murphy 'humbled' to be appointed New Brunswick's new lieutenant-governor

• Brenda Murphy installed as New Brunswick's 32nd lieutenant-governor

According to the New Brunswick Acadian Society, the charter requires that the person appointed lieutenant-governor speak and understand both official languages to grant royal assent to both versions of laws.

The application also cited the Official Languages Act of Canada, which obliges the New Brunswick government to provide services in both English and French.

"New Brunswick has a unique linguistic regime," Chiasson said.

"We think it's time the federal government take into consideration the unique regime that exists in New Brunswick and that the federal government … takes proper steps and actions to ensure a linguistic element is an intrinsic part that encompasses the profile of which they base a nomination."

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130 Comments 







David Raymond Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise 










Guy Laplante
I thought NB was the only officially bilingual province of the country. I guess I am wrong.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Guy Laplante: It is

Marilyn Carr
Reply to @Guy Laplante: we arnt bilingual...we have 75% english only population.


Mack Leigh 

Reply to @Guy Laplante: Correction NB is the only forced official bilingual province.. The people never had a say in this failed social engineering experiment... Billions wasted all in the quest of appeasing the Francophone Elite who are only interested in complete power and control of this province with language being their weapon of choice.

David Raymond Amos
Methinks Ali Chiasson, the executive director of the New Brunswick Acadian Society should ask Brenda Murphy if she is ever going to answer the letter and documents I delivered in hand to his cousin Herménégilde Chiasson's minions in 2004 when Kevin Vickers of the RCMP was his aide de campe while I was illegally barred from the parliamentary property during the time I was running in the election of the 38th Parliament N'esy Pas?


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos:

September 11th, 2004
Dear Mr. Amos,

On behalf of Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson,
I acknowledge receipt of two sets of documents and CD regarding corruption,
one received from you directly, and the other forwarded to us by the Office of
the Lieutenant Governor of New Brunswick.

I regret to inform you that the Governor General cannot intervene in
matters that are the responsibility of elected officials and courts of Justice of
Canada. You already contacted the various provincial authorities regarding
your concerns, and these were the appropriate steps to take.

Yours sincerely.
Renee Blanchet
Office of the Secretary
to the Governor General”

Marc Bourque
give her a chance and see from there ...


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marc Bourque: Methinks that SANB has had lots of time to check my work while the lady has not been clued in at all N'esy Pas?

 David Raymond Amos
"The application also cited the Official Languages Act of Canada, which obliges the New Brunswick government to provide services in both English and French."

Methinks Ali Chiasson should send the lawyers acting on behalf of the New Brunswick Acadian Society to Federal Court in Fat Fred City and pull my files in order to verify that the illegal barring document is in one language only N'esy Pas? 




















Peter C. Shearer
Gov't lawyers should be able to drag this out for oh say 5 or 6 years and bankrupt this society in the deal.

David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Peter C. Shearer: Dream on

Theo Lavigne 

Reply to @Peter C. Shearer: Or sink the N.B. gov. further in the hole than we are now lol.

Cam Randal 

Reply to @Theo Lavigne: The quicker the province as well as the society are bankrupt, the better. Then we can all start over again with a clean slate. lol

David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Cam Randal: Dream on

Mack Leigh 

Reply to @Peter C. Shearer: Shut down all of their preferential perks including all funding both provincially and federally... Nothing more than a big feeling lobby group that enjoys wasting taxpayers money and bullying ..'

David Raymond Amos 
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: BINGO


Theo Lavigne
Reply to @Cam Randal: Dream on


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Theo Lavigne: Howcome you can say it but I cannot? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kyle Woodman
Oh boy. Here we go.

Theo Lavigne

Reply to @Kyle Woodman:Would you say Oh boy.Here we go if she only spoke French? I don't think so.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Welcome to the Circus

Kyle Woodman 

Reply to @Theo Lavigne: I was referring to this being another wedge issue further inflaming both sides. I'm a bilingual anglophone. French immersion worked for me. It's not rocket science. Yet here we go again with a litany of useless arguing.

Theo Lavigne

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: I agree with you I took your comment the wrong way sorry . I'm also bilingual and this foolishness has got to stop.

 

 

Kyle Woodman 

Reply to @Theo Lavigne: most of my Acadian friends in my generation, born in the 80's, are appreciative of the fight their parents and grandparents made for linguistic rights. It's not something to take lightly. They will stand up and protect their rights if under threat. This petty language politics played out by out of touch boomers is a huge waste of energy though. It's equally bad on both extremes of the spectrum.

Cam Randal
Actions like this only turns some members of the majority against this group that pretends to act on behalf of the largest minority in the province.

Most likely, there is someone in the LG office who is fluent in "Acadian French". This is a waste of time and resources!


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Cam Randal: Methinks the SANB lawyers and the Feds they hope to argue overlooked Federal Court File No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas?

Mack Leigh
When will government obtain the gonads to shut these self-serving elite down ?? All about their " rights " over and above those of everyone else... Time for the failed social experiment called forced frenchification to be shut down... We, as a province and as a country cannot afford the continued pandering to one minority.


David Raymond Amos 

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Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks many agree with you and the PANB N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: BINGO


















JJ Carrier
I was under the impression she was...So, a unilingual premier who used to be the youth star of CoR who panders to a anti-French party in the PANB to stay in government approved an English L-G who has never learned French in four decades of having a chance? You can't make this up...

Mack Leigh

Reply to @JJ Carrier: The office is full of fully bilingual employees so anyone is able to receive the service in french... This time someone was actually hired for their credentials and not solely on the fact that they are a francophone and speak french... Time to stop the pandering to one minority who have only 3 to 5 % of their community that are unilingual french speaking. The uniting language of the people of this province is English irregardless their mother tongue.. Time for common sense. We cannot afford this failed experiment called forced official bilingualism 

 

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @JJ Carrier: Methinks that you overlooked the obvious fact that Trudeau The Younger our French Prime Minister from Quebec whose daddy dreamed up the "Charter" appointed the lady to speak and act on behalf of a British Queen N'esy Pas?

JJ Carrier

Reply to @Mack Leigh: You have no resonance in 2019...Time to go back to the death of CoR to see how your ideas worked so well...

JJ Carrier

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Both are you are living in your own past...In David's case, 0.2 per cent of it...

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @JJ Carrier: Methinks everybody knows why you chickened out on your challenge to debate me in public during the last election N'esy Pas? 
 

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: he is smart enough to know not to get into a issing contest with a kunk.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you forgot that he picked the fight not I N'esy Pas?

Brian Robertson
Every time these Acadian activists launch a legal challenge, the government should withdraw a percent of their funding.
Ingratitude for all that has been done to accommodate them should come with a price,


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Brian Robertson: I concur

Mack Leigh 

Reply to @Brian Robertson: Shut down all of their funding both federally and provincially... Taxpayers money being used to fund their contentious and divisive lawsuits all in the name of forced social engineering and the marginalization of the majority who speak a multitude of languages.. The common language in this province and country is English and it is past time that government shut groups like this down.

Chantal LeBouthi: 
Reply to @Brian Robertson:
What a load of crap  


Lou Bell
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Well put that between your teeth and chew it !

















JJ Carrier
Before the cliche racists here have the last say, let us remember that the hopes of the Anglo radical minority are the same as the Franco radical minority...Both are right wing parties of complainers, but one side speaks two languages will the other speaks in circa 1987 anti-McKenna rhetoric, hoping the re-birth of CoR via the PANB will fly in like a saviour...May you dance together in your own stubborn foolishness...And the L-G of a bilingual province should speak both of our unforked tongues, not one..


David Raymond Amos

Reply to @JJ Carrier: Methinks you old Irving Media media dudes wish to forget why I ran as an Independent 7 times thus far. However anyone can Google the following words in order to review what Higgy's new buddy and an anti Cor dude published in 2005 and what your associates wrote about me in 2004 N'esy Pas?

Charles Leblanc gold found in Sussex 

 

Mack Leigh
Reply to @JJ Carrier: The " Anglos " are comprised of people of all cultures and languages. German, Italian, Arabic, Hebrew, Korean, Chinese, Indigenous, Indian, Russian, Scottish, Irish, Welsh and on and on yet there is only a small vocal group of one minority who demands the lion's share of everything. Self-serving bullies who think of no one other than themselves.. The cost to Canadians is massive and as Canada's poorest province we cannot afford to pander to one group only. We are all Canadians and as such no minority deserves any more or any less than another. Time for the pandering to come to a full stop. 





















Mack Leigh
Poorest province in Canada is nothing...nothing to be proud of.. Forced Officially Bilingual is the driving force behind our trip to the bottom of the pile . Millions yet even billions wasted all in an effort to appease a bigoted, selfish, self-serving group of Elites who have not one ounce of interest in what it is costing the people of this province and country... Time to shut it down.


David Raymond Amos 

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Reply to @Mack Leigh: You seem bitter

David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: BINGO













David Guitard
Eliminate this useless position; not needed or wanted.


Mack Leigh 

Reply to @David Guitard: It certainly is needed and wanted... It connects us with who we are as Canadians.. What our ancestors stood for, fought for and died for... Our history matters and should not be erased on a whim by liberals who stand for everything, fight for nothing and are fly by night.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @David Guitard: Methinks everybody knows that would be impossible without a revolution N'esy Pas?

Greg Miller
This bilingual thing is really starting to p ss me off. It's not the everyday association with fellow citizens whether they be Anglophone or Francophone everything is fine at that level. It's just the non-stop bickering and waste of energy and pettiness that a small number of New Brunswickers and various institutions spend their time on.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Greg Miller: Methinks many would agree that most Anglos got upset in 1982 and the SANB won't quit rubbing salt in an old wound for no reason that I will ever understand N'esy Pas?

Mack Leigh

Reply to @Greg Miller: This is all about power and control . Groups such as SANB and the Elite will not stop until government shuts them down, stops all funding and relegates them to the self-serving lobbying group that they really are... Language is just their weapon of choice. 

 

Jake Newman
hopefully this lawsuit will be thrown out with cost.
however it's time to get rid of these positions--governor general & Lt.-Gov waste of tax payer money


David Raymond Amos   

Reply to @Jake Newman: Methinks you seem confused Trust that many Maritimers would never quit laughing if the Crown defended the Lt.-Gov then chucked her out of her fancy mansion N'esy Pas? 

David Raymond Amos

Methinks the SANB made a major Faux Pas I have no doubt whatsoever that many Anglos and Acadians will be discussing this ridiculous lawsuit over the Yuletide season and that not many will be impressed by the actions of the lawyers who dreamed it up N'esy Pas?  


Mack Leigh
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Me thinks good ole Mikey has his fingers in this pie..


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks its interesting that some of my replies to you just went "Poof" N'esy Pas? 

 

Mack Leigh
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: The liberals are out in full force at the CBC tonight.. Have to control the dialogue and suppress facts and opinions at every turn...  


David Raymond Amos 

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Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks we agree on that obvious fact but you must think it strange that they pressed delete when I teased you about being bitter and the comment was already "liked" a couple of times N'esy Pas?

Albert Wade
When the civil service and positions like LG no longer reflect the population there will be a heavy price to pay. Petty language politics is destroying NB.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Albert Wade: FYI

Corrections
An earlier version of this story stated the Official Languages Act of Canada obliges the New Brunswick government to provide services in both English and French. In fact, the act applies to the federal government and not the provincial government.
Dec 23, 2019 7:51 PM AT

Kevin Perley
She's learning french, the court should tell these fools to give the woman a chance.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Kevin Perley: Methinks that would make for an interesting Circus N'esy Pas?

Mack Leigh
Reply to @Kevin Perley: Learning french should be a matter of choice not force.. Perhaps she is Scottish and would prefer to learn Gaelic ? Perhaps she is Italian and would prefer to learn that language... With translation devices and the global language being English part of her " rights " should be the right to choose.  


Kevin Perley
Reply to @Mack Leigh: My point is they've launched a lawsuit while she is attempting to comply with their "requirement", whether it is a legitimate requirement or not.




















Terry Tibbs
And just when you *thought* it couldn't get any more stupid around here......... 


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Of course Just wait until Cardy puts down his butter tarts and assumes some strange name like you do 


Mack Leigh
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Never underestimate the extent to which bigoted groups such as the SANB are willing to go to , to obtain the power and control that they demand.. Language is just their weapon of choice..






















Ed Mcneil
New Brunswick's Lieutenant Governor should be bilingual. That should have been considered before making the appointment. With Ms. Murphy's appointment already made, she will fill out her mandated time in this position. This however, should be the last time a unilingual person is put in this ceremonial office.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @ed mcneil: Cry me a river Is the Queen she speaks for bilingual? 


Robin Ellison
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Actually the queen IS bilingual.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Robin Ellison: What is the other lingo Chiac?

Josef Blow

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Amazing how broken records manage to keep spinning; even records with nary any information on them. If only dra would provide a silent night for all ... 

 

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: queenie speaks very good French. You are showing your ignore, Rance.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: How would I know that? Methinks you wish to pretend to be ignorant and have no idea as to why I sued the Queen N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: "as to why I sued the Queen N'esy Pas? as to why I sued the Queen N'esy Pas? as to why I sued the Queen N'esy Pas? - The broken record Josef Blow was referring to.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you are not very witty ce soir Perhaps you should scroll down N'esy Pas? 
 

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: is it not your case, tous les soirs?


Mack Leigh

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Ah, but would the Queen be able to pass the unrealistic testing that is required here in NB ? Would many Francophones even pass the french test , I think not.

 

 

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks Higgy's lawyer know why the Fat lady ain't sung yet about that matter yet but you and your SANB buddies ain't got the first clue as what is going on because they didn't bother to read my emails or return my phone calls Nesy Pas?

Robin Ellison
The position of Lieutenant Governor is already alternated between an Acadian and an anglophone New Brunswicker. If the requirement is made that all holders of the office be fluently bilingual, would this rotation between Acadian and anglophone holders of the office be dispensed with? I would think so. After all, under the new regime, 90% of Acadians would be eligible to serve as Lieutenant Governor, and only about 15% of anglophones. I'm sure we would end up with Acadian LG's 90% of the time.  


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Robin Ellison: Methinks you overlooked the Anglos around the Bay of Fundy enjoy conferring in Chiac N'esy Pas?

Pierre LaRoches
The SANB is always so full of hate and discord. This will backfire, they will lose the case and lose whatever little respect people in the province had for them for sowing this discontent, they literally have no other skill.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Pierre LaRoches: Obviously I must agree

BruceJack Speculato
1755 . . . why come back here from nice warm Louisiana anyway?


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @BruceJack Speculator: Oh My MY

Mac Isaac
I am actually torn between agreeing with the premise that the position of Lt. Governor should be, IN FUTURE, enacted in legislation as a bilingual position and whether or not such legislation should be applied retroactively. I'm leaning, though, to agreeing that the position should be bilingual in future but that, shown the willingness of Her Excellency Lt. Gov. Brenda Murphy to learn to speak French, she should be allowed to do so. Retroactively applying such legislation seems to me to be rather arbitrary, not to mention totally unnecessary...translation services and her willingness to learn should be taken into account. If the shoe was on the other foot I hope that same consideration would be...well, considered!


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Mac Isaac: Surely you jest

Johnny Horton

Reply to @Mac Isaac:
She was hired under conditions the position didn’t require bilingual. She’d have in doozy of a wrongful dismal case if it was made retroactive.

 

Greg Smith
Google translate is a free app. I use it all the time in Quebec. Get over it.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Greg Smith: True but it spoils the fun

Josef Blow

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: why don’t you go ... away in a manger ... hohoho

Lou Bell
SANB is becoming less significant every day. Aren't they still workin' on their " genocide " claim ? America has Trump , we have the SANB.

Josef Blow

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Reply to @Lou Bell: incoherent r u

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Josef Blow: NOPE u r 

Lou Bell
Who dug this one up , D'Entremont ????? AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: She ain't a lawyer 
 

Mack Leigh
Reply to @Lou Bell: Would strongly suggest that little Mikey has a finger in this pot as usual...




















Johnny Horton
So who at SANB got passed over for the job? 



Mack Leigh
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Did good ole Mikey Doucet apply for this position as well as the numerous others.. Since he was recognized as " special " by NB politicians perhaps he felt entitled to the position ?


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks it is interesting that we are not informed as to who are the lawyers that filed this nonsense N'esy Pas?

Tom Simmons
We should split the difference and get a mandarin or Arabic speaking one


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Tom Simmons: Methinks for a proper circus the Crown should force the poor soul to speak both of the tongues you suggest but what about Maliseet and Mi'kmaq folks? They have a say in this nonsense N'esy Pas?

Johnny Horton
It is important to remember when SANB refers to bilingual they mean French with impossible to understand English skills. 
















William Edwards
I hope Ali gets his lump of coal in his stocking this Christmas! 

 

 

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @William Edwards: Me Too

Blaine Higgs believes better relationship with Justin Trudeau will benefit N.B.

December 25, 2019, 8:01 am

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/higgs-year-end-interview-1.5406596

Blaine Higgs believes better relationship with Justin Trudeau will benefit N.B.

Premier tackles abortion, federal-provincial relations and health-care funding in year-end interview

Harry Forestell· CBC News· Posted: Dec 23, 2019 6:00 PM AT



 
Premier Blaine Higgs shakes the hand of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in December. Higgs said in a year-end interview that he has a good relationship with the federal government. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)


Premier Blaine Higgs shows no signs of wearing down under the strain of managing a minority government.

In a pre-Christmas interview with CBC New Brunswick following the day's question period, Higgs appeared relaxed as he talked about a variety of topics.

The New Brunswick premier spoke about his new working relationship with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, his view on abortion availability in New Brunswick, how he'll use the federal windfall from an increase in equalization payments and the fallout from the dispute with nursing home workers.

Despite leading a minority government, Higgs projects a level of confidence and calm determination that suggests a "damn the torpedos, full speed ahead" attitude.

Here are the highlights of an wide-ranging interview with Higgs on Dec. 18 with CBC New Brunswick.

An improved relationship with Ottawa

Premier Blaine Higgs shows no signs of wearing down under the strain of managing a minority government. In a year-end interview with CBC News, he talked about federal-provincial relations, abortion and health-care spending. (CBC)


Higgs saw a federal election in October that left the Trudeau government reduced to a minority and the New Brunswick premier said he reached an inescapable conclusion.

Voters in the province elected Liberals in six out of 10 federal seats and Higgs reasoned support for the federal carbon tax policy was a key factor.

If that is how most New Brunswickers feel, then it's time for his government to start rowing in the same direction.

A better relationship with Ottawa will also benefit efforts to lift softwood lumber tariffs the United States has imposed on New Brunswick. That's something Trudeau and his deputy prime minister Chrystia Freeland assured Higgs would be dealt with in the new year.

 

Watch Higgs talk about his relationship with Trudeau
 

Premier Blaine Higgs says he has a positive relationship with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and he believes a better relationship will pay dividends for New Brunswick. 2:13

Higgs warns Trudeau on abortion debate

One sticking point for the new Higgs-Trudeau relationship may emerge in the area of abortion.

During the federal campaign, Trudeau made a point of coming to New Brunswick to visit a private abortion clinic in Fredericton and promise to force the province to fund the procedure in private clinics.

Higgs warned against such an effort for two reasons — he said there is no provision in the Canada Health Act for Trudeau to take such a step and, in any case, it isn't necessary.

As Higgs sees it, the availability of the abortion drug Mifegymiso has changed the debate on abortion services by making it easier for women to end a pregnancy without having to go to a public or private clinic.

Watch Higgs on the abortion debate
 

Premier Blaine Higgs has warned Prime Minister Justin Trudeau not to interfere with how the provincial government deals with the issue of abortion. 3:39

 

Higgs health solution

One of the most significant challenges to Higgs's fiscal conservatism has come from nursing home workers demanding higher wages.

The long running dispute has become a political battlefield that Higgs says he will not retreat from.

He refers to talks with the Canadian Union of Public Employees as "game-changing negotiations," and the premier is adamant that his "mark in the sand" will apply to other union negotiations in the future.

On the broader subject of health care, Higgs calls an increase in federal equalization payments "good news" that will help the province shoulder the burden of a rapidly aging population.


Watch Higgs on health funding




Premier Blaine Higgs says he's prepared to dig in when it comes to contract negotiations with unions. He is adamant that his 'mark in the sand' he gave CUPE will apply to other unions as well. 4:11

A new style of politics

One thing is certain, after his first year as premier, leading a minority government in a province assailed by economic headwinds, Higgs has learned a new style of governing.

It has forced a pragmatic man to be even more so.

He and other members of his Progressive Conservative government and his People's Alliance allies have had to be satisfied with, in his words, "a little more water in your soup."

Compromise and give-and-take have become key political ingredients.

The result?

Higgs isn't getting everything he wants or hoped for, but even he has to agree that minority government has given New Brunswick voters better results.


Watch Higgs describe handling a minority government
 

Premier Blaine Higgs has spent the last year learning how to manage a minority government. He says his government has given New Brunswick voters quality politics. 2:41

About the Author

Harry Forestell

Host CBC News New Brunswick at 6

Harry Forestell is the host of CBC News New Brunswick at 6. He worked in London as journalist from 1995 to 2000 and from 2005 to 2008 as CBC's European correspondent for Newsworld.

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Paul Bourgoin
Can Higgs truly lead New Brunswick to prosperity with a three tier Party???


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Nope

 

 

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Methinks Higgy can recall my responses to you before I ran against his buddy Bruce Northrup over a year ago N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pension-reform-lawsuits-costs-1.4732109

 

 

Shawala Gouk

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Did you gat any votes at all nesypas ? 

 

 GO FIGURE
 

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/07/province-spends-more-than-2m-fighting.html

Friday, 6 July 2018

Province spends more than $2M fighting civil servants in court

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pension-reform-lawsuits-costs-1.4732109

Bathurst officers involved in Michel Vienneau's death can keep jobs, arbitrator rules

December 25, 2019, 3:26 pm

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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 09:53:07 -0400
Subject: Attn Nicolas Vienneau CBC often deletes my words but they
cannot deny that my blog exists
To: michelvienneau@protonmail.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/12/bathurst-officers-involved-in-michel.html

However I just checked and my comments are still there

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bathurst-police-arbitration-hearing-decision-vienneau-death-1.5392483



For the record I talked to Annick Basque personally and she was not interested in talking 
to me and hung up. So be it. I will just sit back and continue to watch the circus


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:04:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Attn Nicolas Vienneau Proof of what?
To: michelvienneau <michelvienneau@protonmail.com>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Proof of what?

On 12/26/19, michelvienneau <michelvienneau@protonmail.com> wrote:
> Mr Amos,
>
> Your comments were found directely on the CBC wedsite.  Thank you but we are
> looking for proof.
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> Thank you
>
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> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> Le jeudi 26 décembre 2019 09:29, michelvienneau
> <michelvienneau@protonmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Mr Amos,
>>
>> No comments were found. Could you please copy and resend back to us.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> Le mercredi 25 décembre 2019 17:00, David Amos
>> david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com a écrit :
>>
>> > https://www.facebook.com/nicolas.vienneau?fref=search&tn=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARCmPli4v8Qq9CR5XjRs3U2AVA5M0dX32DjOMpdibiCUn__WkURB8jQi71gyj_qNeCZsvzwZ5wBD4g-h
>> > Nicolas Vienneau
>> > Yesterday at 2:23 PM ·
>> > Malice, a gift for Christmas! / more bullshit for Christmas!
>> > https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bathurst-police-arbitration-hearing-decision-vienneau-death-1.5392483
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 As usual Chucky Leblanc has lots to say about this topic

Tuesday, 24 December 2019 

Blogger's reaction of Bathurst Police Constables Mathieu Boudreau and Patrick Bulger keeping their Jobs!!! 

https://youtu.be/lPM-QLoLz9A

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Bathurst Police Constables Mathieu Boudreau and Patrick Bulger will lose their jobs predicted by Blogger!!!! 

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Bathurst officers involved in Michel Vienneau's death can keep jobs, arbitrator rules

Vienneau was shot by Bathurst officer investigating Crime Stoppers tips almost five years ago

Shane Magee· CBC News· Posted: Dec 24, 2019 2:00 PM AT



 
Bathurst Police Force constables Mathieu Boudreau, left, and Patrick Bulger, centre, were suspended with pay pending the arbitrator's decision. (Shane Magee/CBC )

An arbitrator has ruled two Bathurst police officers will keep their jobs after a hearing over their roles in the shooting death of Michel Vienneau almost five years ago.

Constables Mathieu Boudreau and Patrick Bulger each faced five counts of code of conduct violations under the Police Act. Arbitrator Joël Michaud's 58-page written decision issued Tuesday says he did not find the officers violated the code of conduct.

He found the officers properly identified themselves, Vienneau's car was still in motion when Boudreau fired at Vienneau, Bulger acted "with restraint and good judgment" when he fired at Vienneau's rear tire to try to stop the car, and Boudreau did not act out of panic and fear.

As a result, he found the officers not guilty of the alleged breaches of the code of conduct and dismissed the matter.

The two officers were suspended from the Bathurst Police Force with pay pending the outcome of the hearing.


Arbitrator Joël Michaud heard testimony from 13 witnesses during the hearing that began in mid-October. (Shane Magee/CBC)

T.J. Burke, a lawyer representing Boudreau, said no one was celebrating the decision.

"It is a timely gift for the officers because they have been found without any wrongdoing both criminally, and now, civilly under the Police Act," Burke said in an interview.

"But at the end of the day, the officers were just doing their job. They want to put this behind them and they want to move forward with their careers now."


T.J. Burke, a lawyer representing Const. Mathieu Boudreau, says the officers want to move on and get on with their careers. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC)

The decision followed testimony from 13 witnesses during the hearing that began in mid-October and lasted 11 days. Closing arguments were offered Dec. 9 after which Michaud had 15 days to issue a decision. The decision is binding, though it can be subject to judicial review within 90 days.

Vienneau, a 51-year-old Tracadie businessman, was killed Jan. 12, 2015, at the Bathurst train station.
Bulger and Boudreau were among six undercover officers who rushed to the station based on anonymous Crime Stoppers tips that Vienneau was trafficking drugs on the train. The tips turned out to be false.

When Vienneau began to drive away from the station, Boudreau and Bulger moved to stop him. They exited an unmarked police car in plainclothes and drew their pistols.
  

Michel Vienneau, 51, of Tracadie had come off a Via Rail train from Montreal and was in his car when he was shot and killed by police. (Submitted by Nicolas Vienneau)

Michaud heard that Vienneau drove his Chevrolet Cruze into the police car and kept driving toward Bulger. Bulger testified he was hit by Vienneau's car and pinned against a snowbank.

Boudreau, who testified he feared for his partner's life, then fired four times at Vienneau.
Vienneau died of a gunshot wound to his left chest.

• RCMP considered probe into false Crime Stoppers tips that led to fatal shooting

• CBC Investigates
  How anonymous tips and a rush to make an arrest led to Michel Vienneau's death

Michaud's job was to determine, based on sometimes conflicting testimony, what happened that day. Among his key findings were:

• Basque and Vienneau "sincerely believed" they were not facing police officers.
  
• Vienneau didn't try to avoid Bulger and did purposely drive his car to hit him.
  
• Police lights on the unmarked cars were activated.
  
• Clothing and equipment used by officers were what was provided to them by the police force, so it would be "inappropriate" to hold that against them.
  
• There was cause for "grave concerns" about the reliability of Basque's testimony.
  
• Vienneau's car was still moving when Boudreau fired his gun.
  

Criminal charges against the officers were dropped after a preliminary inquiry.

A separate investigation under the New Brunswick Police Act alleged the officers: didn't properly use and carry a firearm, abused their authority by using unnecessary force, failed to follow police policies and procedures and acted in a discreditable manner.

Basile Chiasson, a lawyer for the police chief, argued the officers had "tunnel vision" after hearing about the Crime Stoppers tips from a supervisor and rushed to the train station hoping to make an arrest and "show their mettle."
 

A rough recreation of what may have taken place at the train station on Jan. 12, 2015, based on testimony from witnesses at a police discipline hearing. 0:30

Chiasson declined to comment on the decision. A statement issued Tuesday by the City of Bathurst said the municipality will "take the necessary time to carefully analyze the decision."

Lawyers for the two officers said they were blamed for an operation that went according to plan until Vienneau hit Bulger.

It's unclear if Vienneau knew Bulger and Boudreau were officers. Vienneau's fiancée, Annick Basque, who was with him that day, testified she didn't know they were police officers when she saw Bulger with a gun in his hand. She thought they were being attacked by "druggies" or terrorists.

"I think Vienneau acted quickly based on what he expected to see and experience, not what was actually taking place," Michaud wrote of the fear of terrorists.

Michaud said he had "grave concerns" about the reliability of Basque's testimony because of inconsistencies with her own evidence and that of others, including misidentifying whether it was Boudreau or Bulger who was driving the unmarked car and shot Vienneau.

Boudreau has been a police officer since 2009 and Bulger since 2007. Both officers were described at the hearing by a former supervisor as promising with no previous use-of-force issues.

 
A photo of the shooting scene at the Bathurst train station on Jan. 12, 2015. (RCMP)

Michaud did offer some criticism of Bulger's testimony regarding a policy relating to how to conduct a traffic stop.

"I was unimpressed with the evidence of Bulger, to the effect that he would have been a sitting duck had he remained in the car with only the lower part of his body protected by the engine block,"

Michaud wrote. "To be blunt, it didn't make sense. I find that Bulger's 'interest in the outcome' and 'motive to deceive' affected his testimony on this point."

While the discipline hearing is over, there are still other proceedings related to the shooting underway. A civil case filed by Vienneau's family against the city and the officers is continuing through court.

Two years ago, the province ordered a coroner's inquest into Vienneau's death.

Inquest planned

The province has said the inquest will take place following the conclusion of the discipline hearing, though dates have not been set.

Coreen Enos, a spokesperson with the Department of Public Safety, told CBC News the inquest would only be held once "all legal proceedings" related to the hearing, such as any judicial review, are exhausted.

An inquest is a formal court proceeding that allows for public presentation of evidence relating to a death to help clarify the facts and circumstances.

The coroner does not assign responsibility or blame, but there may be recommendations on how to prevent similar deaths in the future.

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David Raymond Amos
Go figure why I am not surprised 






David Raymond Amos
Methinks my brother must be rolling in his grave in light of the fact that he was one of the fellas who helped to introduce Crime Stoppers to the New Brunswick jurisdiction long ago N'esy Pas?  

















Mike Kennedy
Eastern Canada police forces need help enforcing the law breakers of "their own". I never cease to be amazed at the legal decisions coming out of PEI, NFL and NS since forever  


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @mike kennedy: YUP Methinks folks should go to a library and review the news in the summer of 1982 after the RCMP hired me to testify at a Coroner's Inquiry in New Brunswick and then the RCMP were sued for a wrongful death N'esy Pas?


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks the Province put the cart before the horse as usual N'esy Pas?

"The province has said the inquest will take place following the conclusion of the discipline hearing, though dates have not been set.

Coreen Enos, a spokesperson with the Department of Public Safety, told CBC News the inquest would only be held once "all legal proceedings" related to the hearing, such as any judicial review, are exhausted.

An inquest is a formal court proceeding that allows for public presentation of evidence relating to a death to help clarify the facts and circumstances.

The coroner does not assign responsibility or blame, but there may be recommendations on how to prevent similar deaths in the future."

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks many lawyers will make certain that the fat lady does not sing to soon for their benefit N'esy Pas?

"While the discipline hearing is over, there are still other proceedings related to the shooting underway. A civil case filed by Vienneau's family against the city and the officers is continuing through court. "

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @mike kennedy: "Michaud said he had "grave concerns" about the reliability of Basque's testimony because of inconsistencies with her own evidence and that of others, including misidentifying whether it was Boudreau or Bulger who was driving the unmarked car and shot Vienneau."

Furthermore methinks the lawyer Joël Michaud has not heard the last word from the lawyers working Annick Basque N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/annick-basque-second-lawsuit-1.3339685

Charles van Duren
So the code of conduct does not require investigation of anonymous tips before using deadly force.

Whitewash: blink (at), brush (aside or off), condone, discount, disregard, excuse, forgive, gloss (over), gloze (over), ignore, overlook, overpass, paper over, pardon, pass over, remit, shrug off, wink (at)

This is sure to increase respect for police and the law.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Charles van Duren: Surely you jest about a very serious matter

Mark Tax
Oops!Wrong kindergarten class! I'm outta here! 





Johnny Horton
Almost 350k for sitting st home for four years, seeet deal. 





















Ivan Nozinski
I guess going on a shooting rampage, based on an anonymous tip, not checking the backgrounds of the alleged "drug dealers" is a professional and common action. These thugs in uniform murdered an innocent man and nothing happens... It seems that we are all equal, but some are more equal than others.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ivan Nozinski: GO Figure

‘Hush money’: RCMP starts to settle with Mounties who Tasered Robert Dziekanski
By Jane Gerster Global News Posted June 8, 2019

"The coroner's jury looking into the suicide of former RCMP spokesman Pierre Lemaitre has handed down five recommendations. 

Patrick Smyth
Bottom line. If the police officers didn't act like Starsky and Hutch, that man would be alive today.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Patrick Smyth: BINGO

Brian Hughes
Justice has not been done in the death of an innocent man.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Brian Hughes:
But if it was "justice" you were looking for might I suggest you are looking in the wrong place?

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you have been checking my work N'esy Pas?

William Walker
There was so much wrong in the way these cops handled this situation, they all should go to jail or at minimum, each one, top down should lose their jobs.

John Plank

Reply to @William Walker:
But received a 5 year paid Holiday..

.

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @John Plank: Imagine that Plus its interesting news for Christmas Eve. Methinks the lawyers hope folks will forget this once the Yuletide season is over N'esy Pas?

Joseph Reid
I dont know these men can go back to their jobs and go out in the community and think that the people will look at them as anything other than murderers worthy of contempt!


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Joseph Reid: Methinks if the Chief is wise he will give them desk jobs just like T.J. Burke's client Louie Lefleur in Fat Fred City got N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/lou-lafleur-impaired-driving-1.3408411

Joe Campbell
To pay police officers a 100 grand they should have a university degree first and then go to a police academy. Another problem is Canada is run by lawyers who drag these cases out for five years all will officers get suspended with pay. No wonder the country is broke and the taxpayers are the joke.

Norman Albert

Reply to @Joe campbell: One lawyer in a small town would starve to death while two would make each other risk. It is all a profitable game to them. Lawyers are scum and the law is a joke.

Norman Albert 

Reply to @Norman Albert: ".........two would make each other rich".

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Norman Albert: Oh So True

Peter Johnson

Reply to @Joe campbell: wiggum - becoming a cop is not something that happens overnight. It takes one solid weekend of training to get that badge. forget about the badge when do we get the freaking guns? hey i told you, you're not getting a gun until you tell me your name

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Joe campbell: Welcome to the circus run by the Crown who employs all the greedy politicians, bureaucrats, beancounters, media, lawyers and cops who support the rampant public corruption within our so-called "Just Democracy".

Methinks all the unions and at least one former Attorney General knows that these people act for their own benefit not the taxpayers they purportedly serve. Hence a Police Chief can hire cops but he can't fire them N'esy Pas?

W J:
Tips were false, came in like Rambo, triggered an innocent person's fight or flight, start shooting, then oops sorry wrong people. These clowns need to be meter maids. They wanted a piece of the action, and saw things for what they wanted to see, and not what they actually were.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @W J: Welcome to the Circus

Ramzi Aladin
Based on some bs tip a citizen is murdered by the police and everyone gets off scoot free! What’s difference with China in this situation?


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Ramzi Aladin: The lingo

Mike Connors
I would have to disagree strongly Mr. Michaud, the Police in Bathurst have lost all respect in the community and beyond.

Theo Lavigne

Reply to @Mike Connors: Take a survey in Bathurst to see if they lost all respect.

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Theo Lavigne: Methinks whereas it is your idea perhaps you should N'esy Pas?

Cleve Gallant
Think i will stay away from Bathurst,


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Cleve Gallant: Methinks many agree that would be wise N'esy Pas?

Claude DeRoche
For the safety of our citizens, we need to be advised when these murderers are on duty.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Claude DeRoche: Good point

Norman Albert
Maybe give them a medal as well for killing an unarmed man? Really sick Justice system!!!!

Johnny Horton

Reply to @Norman Albert:
The coroners inquest is gonna be brutal on the police force for how it handled the whole thing,
Unfortunately, as always, any changes, come for too late.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Norman Albert: Methinks many agree that may be an understatement N'esy Pas?

Graham McCormack
Good to hear. They were were found not guilty by the court, they should have there jobs back.

I'm sure all the police haters will be along to tell me why the police are not to be trusted.


Norman Albert 

Reply to @Graham McCormack: Loose cannons locked and loaded. Maybe you'll be next or one of yours.

Claude DeRoche

Chief Ernie Boudreau should resign in protest,
and give his job to one of these Bimbos.

Norman Albert

Reply to @Graham McCormack: I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR ALL FIRST RESPONDERS UNTIL THEY CROSS THAT LINE. They deserve no better than anyone else who kill or fire at an unarmed civilian.

Johnny Horton 

Reply to @Norman Albert:
I’m not s police hater - but - I’m also not s fan of the whole boys/girls in blue club. It disgusts me thst shen an officer is killed it’s sll hands on deck and police come from everywhere to help solve the murder. Yet when a civilian is killed, it’s just another day st the office for whatever police get assigned the case,

In an ethical world, it would be closer to the opposite. Thst the failure oF the state and it’s police agents to prevent someone from getting murdered, inspired them to come from across the country to solve the murder.

It we live in a society where it’s police job to react after the fact, rather than prevent the act.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Graham McCormack: Are you a cop trying to pick a fight? 

 

Albert Wade
 It takes longer to graduate from Clown School or Barber College than the 6 month course at Holiday College to become a cop.


The Holy Holy Mackerel

Reply to @Albert Wade: Police academy is a glorified remedial gym class.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Albert Wade: Methinks Pt Barnum would agree that if you are gonna have a profitable Circus you must hire well trained professionals. On the other hand if the Circus is run by public officials and paid for by the taxpayer the same rules do not apply N'esy Pas?

Lieschen Mueller
You are a police officer, you are above the law, sigh.


Robert Buck 

Reply to @Lieschen Mueller: They are not above the law. They went through the system and this is the decision of the Courts and arbitrator. Just because you believe the Courts and Arbitrator are wrong does not make you right.

Norman Albert 

Reply to @Robert Buck: "They are not above the law."??? Prove it!!! Of you killed an unarmed man would the courts be so forgiving?

Theo Lavigne 

Reply to @Norman Albert: Did you know a car is a weapon

Robert Buck  

Reply to @Norman Albert: Proof is in the decisions of the court and arbitrator. The proof is the Crown could not even get past the preliminary inquiry. To me that says a lot.

W J: 

Reply to @Robert Buck: you must really know how to spit shine a cops boots...professional boot licker.

Robert Buck 

Reply to @W J: Well I know you have nothing intelligent to add if you have to lower yourself to name calling.

Norman Albert

Reply to @Robert Buck: I no longer trust the courts any more than the lawyers and judges who pretend to be public servants. They are far from it. Recent court rulings have only confirmed this.

Norman Albert

Reply to @Robert Buck: It says the crown and police force work together. Make it look good!!!

Charles Van Duren

Reply to @Robert Buck: Police perjury is a "corrosive" problem that fosters disrespect for the law and threatens innocent people."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/police-testimony-court-cases-investigation-1.5352086

Lieschen Mueller 

Reply to @Robert Buck: Considering how often unarmed persons are shot by the police and that even in cases where a police officer is found guilty, he or she often receives a discharge or a suspended sentence, sorry, but the truth of the matter is that far too often police officers are coddled and given preferences and yes, often are seemingly above the law.

Norman Albert 

Reply to @Theo Lavigne: A safety pin is a weapon. Your point is? Was it used as defence or offence?

Theo Lavigne 

Reply to @Norman Albert: Did you know one of the officer was pinned between the car and a snow bank? Not between a snow bank and a safety pin. lol

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Lieschen Mueller: Methinks that goes without saying Trust that a famous Yankee lawyer with the same last name as you and the Crown know that many cops and lawyers understand that I learned the truth about the "Justice System" the hard way firsthand beginning way back in 1982. Anyone can Google my name and Federal Court File No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas?

Steve Dueck
After following this story..I still say something is fishy....


Robert Buck 

Reply to @Steve Dueck: Like you said "followed" the story. So unless you went to every court appearance and sat through ALL the evidence then how can you say something is fishy.

Norman Albert: 

Reply to @Robert Buck: Unarmed man shot and killer by plain clothes law enforcement officers who suspected a drug mule? What exactly is missing here? They shot and killed an unarmed man in the presence of a female companion. No regard for either!!!!! shoot first ask questions Later???

James Vander

Reply to @Norman Albert: This case has bothered me from the very start. And let there be no doubt; the law courts and police force are one big happy family who never reprimand each other, no matter what degree of negligence is apparent to us mere peasants who pay their wages. Rest assured, these two clown cops induced the situation to a murder by mishandling the whole situation from the get-go. Outside of issuing speeding tickets, they were in way over their heads. Mr. Vienneau was innocent and unarmed- and now he is dead because of it. Nice going. And they still get to keep their jobs?! Really?! Please, issue them cap guns so I can feel safe again....

Robert Buck

Reply to @Norman Albert: the car was the weapon.

Robert Buck 

Reply to @Norman Albert: and again did you sit through all the testimony? If you Had you would have known the car was the weapon.

Ramzi Aladin

Reply to @Steve Dueck: probably the whole thing was a set up including the bs tip

Norman Albert 

Reply to @Robert Buck: weapon or only means of escape from a very dangerous situation. What would you have done under fire. Fight or flight???

Steve Dueck 

Reply to @Robert Buck: I trust the news reporting if everything was unbiased...just as the courts are...so I will believe what I read...and something just doesn’t seem right...that’s all.

Robert Buck

Reply to @Steve Dueck: You trust the news reporting? Wow they would not be biased at all. And again you did not hear all the testimony so you my be biased also.

Robert Buck 

Reply to @Norman Albert: I was not there so I can not answer that question. And you of course have read all the case law on lethal force.

Charles Van Duren

Reply to @Robert Buck:
"Reply to @Norman Albert: the car was the weapon."

No. The uninvestigated "tip" was the weapon.

Norman Albert

Reply to @Robert Buck: A badge should never be a licence to kill. The charge should be 2nd degree murder.

Theo Lavigne 

Reply to @Norman Albert: I see you never followed the story.the tip was only received just before the train arrived.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Steve Dueck: Obviously you are not alone

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/review-of-michel-vienneau-fatal-shooting-by-bathurst-police-complete-1.3154950 

Review of Michel Vienneau fatal shooting by Bathurst police complete

New Brunswick public prosecutions will review RCMP report, decide whether any charges will be laid

CBC News· Posted: Jul 16, 2015 2:39 PM AT




Michel Vienneau, pictured here with his wife, Annick Basque, was fatally shot by Bathurst police on Jan. 12. (Facebook)

Nova Scotia RCMP have concluded their investigation into a fatal Bathurst police shooting last winter, but are not releasing the results yet.

The report has been handed over to New Brunswick public prosecutions services to determine whether any charges are appropriate, Sgt. Alain LeBlanc said in a statement on Thursday.

Michel Vienneau, 51, of Tracadie-Sheila, was shot and killed by Bathurst police outside the Bathurst Via Rail station on Jan. 12, "as part of an ongoing investigaton."

In New Brunswick, police normally only forward a file to public prosecutions if they believe charges are warranted.

• Nova Scotia RCMP ask for public's help in New Brunswick shooting
  
• Fatal Bathurst police shooting confounds local residents
  
• Man shot and killed by Bathurst police after 'incident,' RCMP say
  

"On completion of the investigation, if the police are satisfied that there is sufficient evidence to lay an information, they will formulate a charge, or charges, based on their assessment of the case and then forward a full report or court brief to the appropriate Crown Prosecutor's office for pre-charge review," the attorney general's policy for public prosecutions states.

But in this case, Nova Scotia RCMP did not make any recommendations as part of their investigation, said LeBlanc.

"The RCMP will not be commenting on the details of the investigation at this time," he said.


The shooting occurred outside the Bathurst Via Rail station. Police have said it was part of an ongoing investigation. (Bridget Yard/CBC)

Charles LeBlanc, the lawyer representing Vienneau's common law partner, Annick Basque, declined to comment on Thursday, saying he hasn't had an opportunity to review the report yet.

He says he hopes he will be provided with a copy — and he hopes it will be soon.

Parents 'victimized' by waiting

Meanwhile, lawyer Raymond Wade, who is in charge of Vienneau's estate and is in touch with Vienneau's elderly parents, is frustrated.

"Normally, if it would have been an RCMP officer that was killed, we would have known … who the perpetrator was, and where he is and so forth," said Wade.

"We have that kind of frustration with the whole system that we're facing now — especially from the perspective of the parents. They're continually being victimized by the waiting," he said.- Raymond Wade, estate lawyer

"And as persons living in New Brunswick, and in Canada at large, we are also victims of the fact that there are somewhere facts that indicate a police officer killed a man and we don't know anything about it yet. This is completely abnormal."

The Bathurst Police Force asked Nova Scotia RCMP to handle the investigation the day after the shooting.

A team of major crime investigators was assigned to the case.

Basque previously told CBC News she and Vienneau had just returned from watching a hockey game in Montreal when they saw people running toward them with guns.

She said the plainclothes officers did not identify themselves. Vienneau tried to drive away and was shot, Basque said.

Vienneau, who owned an electronics store in Tracadie-Sheila, was later pronounced dead at Chaleur Regional Hospital.

Court documents indicate Bathurst police were investigating drug trafficking. An affidavit from Bathurst City Police Chief Eugene Poitras also suggests the possible involvement of organized crime.

In April, Vienneau's widow won the right to learn the names of the officers involved. She had filed a motion with the Court of Queen's Bench so she could pursue legal action against the officers.

Justice Larry Landry decided to release the identities and addresses of the officers to Basque and her lawyer, but ruled the information would not be made public.

Basque's lawyer appealed the decision to keep the officers' names private. The Court of Appeal has not yet reviewed the matter.

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Legions
unfortunate for the families of the victims....when it is persons of authority and/or position who hold a societal stature who have done the killing its takes time, lots of time for families and the public at large to receive justice.
The Robert Dziekanski killing is a recent example of how police gathered, brass along in order to protect reputations of individuals, the police force itself and therefore by extension the officers directly involved.
The Dziekanski case also reveals the lengths and faulty rationalizations a Crown prosecutor's office would undertake in refusing to lay charges despite evidence submitted to warrant charges
The service of Justice then can be reduced to having resort to public inquiries not court proceedings, even this can take a great deal of effort and time to realize.
That some form of public justice...even if it comes only in the form of public knowledge of crimes committed by police be achieved is important if we are to claim we are free for none can truly claim to be free in societies where justice can be delayed, thwarted or even denied.
it is not comforting being reminded justice can depend on who you are, what authority or position society grants you, nor is it admirable to the purpose of law being distorted with a legal system bent upon saving face at the expense of justice. 


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/annick-basque-second-lawsuit-1.3339685

Annick Basque files second lawsuit against City of Bathurst

Michel Vienneau's widow seeks damages for her arrest when Vienneau was shot and killed by police

Bridget Yard· CBC News· Posted: Nov 27, 2015 11:56 AM AT




Michel Vienneau and common law partner, Annick Basque, were coming off a Via Rail train from Montreal. (Facebook)


The Via Rail train station in Bathurst was cordoned off for a week following the January 2015 shooting death of Michel Vienneau. (Bridget Yard/CBC)

Annick Basque asserts she was arrested using excessive force and without cause in January when her common-law husband, Michael Vienneau, was shot and killed by Bathurst police.

 

Basque makes the statements in a statement of claim filed Nov. 19 in a second lawsuit she has initiated against the City of Bathurst. She is also suing the city, which is responsible for the police force, for damages and loss of income resulting from Vienneau's death, which say says is a direct result of police negligence.
 

In Basque's second lawsuit, she is seeking financial compensation for damages.

Vienneau, 51, was shot by Bathurst police outside the Bathurst Via Rail station in January. Two officers, Const. Mathieu Boudreau, 26, and Const.Patrick Bulger,38, have been charged with manslaughter in relation to Vienneau's death.

Basque says in her statement of claim in the second lawsuit that she was arrested forcibly and without reason on the day of  Vienneau's death.



Csts Boudreau and Bulger will appear in provincial court in Bathurst on Jan. 4, 2016. Both officers are suspended from the Bathurst police force with pay. (Bridget Yard/CBC News)

She recounts her version of the events outside Via Rail on Jan. 12 in more detail than in previous court documents.

 

She says in the statement of claim that she and Vienneau were returning from a short vacation, and recent terrorist attacks were heavy on their minds. In light of the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris five days earlier, and the deaths of two soldiers in Quebec and on Parliament Hill in October, the couple was on edge.

Meanwhile, unbeknownst to the couple, Bathurst police had received an anonymous Crime Stoppers tip saying Vienneau was in possession of illegal drugs.

Basque's statement of claim describes the couple's arrival in Bathurst around 11:15 a.m. on Jan. 12.

She says they got off the train and walked to their car before placing their luggage in Vienneau's vehicle. Vienneau cleared snow off the car, got into the vehicle, and put it in reverse.

Basque claims plainclothes police observed the couple during this time, and made no move to approach them.

After the vehicle was in motion, Basque says a car occupied by Boudreau and Bulger blocked Vienneau's car. Two policemen got out of the vehicle, brandishing their revolvers.

Basque says in the court documents that she believed she was the victim of a terrorist attack, and thought the plainclothes officers were going to kill her.

Vienneau told Basque to get down, and pressed the gas, moving the vehicle. Then shots were fired, killing him.

 

Basque describes being forcibly removed from the vehicle and handcuffed shortly after Vienneau was killed.

Her cell phone was seized and she was told that she was under arrest for possession of illegal drugs with intent to traffic, then she was brought to the Bathurst detachment.

Basque says in her statement of claim that there is no evidence to support her arrest. She says no drugs were found in her or Vienneau's possession, or in their vehicle, and they had not committed any criminal acts.

Basque's claims are made in court documents and have not been proven in court.

At a news conference announcing the manslaughter charges against two police officers, an RCMP officer told reporters the review of the Bathurst police investigation by Nova Scotia RCMP did not find that Michel Vienneau had committed any criminal acts.

The City of Bathurst has yet to file a statement of defence.

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https://www.iheartradio.ca/max-104-9/news/lawyer-says-annick-basque-was-not-michel-vienneau-s-wife-or-common-law-partner-1.2041629

Lawyer says Annick Basque was not Michel Vienneau's wife or common law partner

Wednesday, October 19th 2016 - 6:29 am

The lawyer for the family of a Tracadie man shot and killed by Bathurst police says Annick Basque wasn't the man's wife or common law partner.

This as a judge decides if Basque is entitled to Michel Vienneau's financial statements as part of her lawsuit against the city of Bathurst.

Basque's lawyer argues she and Vienneau began living together in 2011.

He says Vienneau did mary a Cuban back in 2010 but that the marriage was one of convenience so she could enter the country.

The judge will only rule on if Basque will be granted access to the paper work, not if she and her children were Vienneau's dependants.

A date has not been set for the decision.

(with files from the Acadie-Nouvelle)

Bathurst police officers will not stand trial for shooting death of Tracadie businessman

Friday, February 24th 2017 - 2:29 pm

Cheers erupted from a packed courtroom Friday afternoon as the judge gave her decision in the case of two Bathurst police officers charged in the shooting death of Tracadie business Michel Vienneau nearly two years ago.

Judge Anne Dugas-Horseman ruled the Crown failed to meet the threshold of evidence required to order Constables Patrick Bulger and Mathieu Boudreau to stand trial on charges of manslaughter, assault with a weapon, and unlawfully pointing a firearm.

The two constables wept as Judge Dugas-Horseman gave her decision, while Crown prosecutor Stephen Holt said Vienneau's family is devastated.

Though pleased with the decision, attorney Brian Munro who represented Constable Bulger, said it's not a day for celebration.

He said the events that unfolded near the Bathurst train station in Jan. 2015 led to a man tragically losing his life, and that there's no joy in such a situation.

But Munro said Bulger is relieved and the hopes he, along with Boudreau, are able to move forward.
Munro says he was not surprised by Judge Dugas-Horseman's decision and said it was one that was well thought out.

A publication ban on evidence remains in place.

It's not yet known if the officers will return to active duty any time soon.

The City of Bathurst says it is a police matter and will not be offering comment. We've reached out to the Bathurst Police Force comment.





https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/family-michel-vienneau-end-criminal-proceedings-1.4412012

'It's not over': Michel Vienneau's family reeling after end of case against officers

Crown chose not to appeal latest defeat in legal battle against 2 officers accused in Vienneau’s 2015 death

Gabrielle Fahmy· CBC News· Posted: Nov 21, 2017 4:34 PM AT 

Nicolas Vienneau has questioned why the person who made the anonymous false tip that led to the death of his brother, Michel, suffers no consequences. (François Vigneault/Radio-Canada)

The family of Michel Vienneau, the 51-year-old Tracadie businessman who was killed by police in a Via Rail train station, said they are discouraged by the Crown's decision not to appeal its latest defeat in the legal proceedings against the two officers accused in Vienneau's death.

But brother Nicolas said the family will continue to try to find answers, despite this marking the end of the criminal proceedings against the two officers, Mathieu Boudreau, 28, and Patrick Bulger, 38, of the Bathurst police force.

"It's not over," brother Nicolas Vienneau said to CBC News.

• No appeal sought in decision not to try 2 officers in Bathurst shooting death 
• Why did a judge drop charges against 2 Bathurst officers who killed an innocent man?

Almost three years after Michel Vienneau was shot inside his vehicle as he was trying to leave the Bathurst train station, the family is still trying to make sense of what happened.

A provincial court judge ruled earlier this year that she didn't think the police did anything wrong when Vienneau was shot. An appeal court upheld her decision not to send the case to trial, and prosecutors decided this week not to challenge the ruling.

Police were acting on a Crime Stoppers tip that turned out to be false when they attempted to stop him the morning of Jan.12, 2015.

Vienneau said the family has been living a nightmare for the past three years.

"They didn't just kill my brother," Vienneau said. "They killed my entire family."

"We were just two in the family, me and my brother."

Nicolas Vienneau says he and his parents have been living a nightmare for the past three years, trying to understand what happened. (François Vigneault/Radio-Canada)

Vienneau believed whoever called in the false tip that his brother was carrying a "load of drugs" on a train from Montreal wanted to do harm to his brother.
For the family, there remain shady details surrounding the death, and Vienneau said he was disappointed the court protected the identity of the tipster.

Informer privilege is absolute and a tipster's identity cannot be disclosed even during court proceedings.

In extremely rare cases, a court has lifted that privilege for a person who contacted Crime Stoppers with the intention of furthering their own criminal activity or interfering with the administration of justice.

Vienneau also feels the investigation didn't go far enough.

"Did the court ask the right questions? It didn't ask for any members of the public to testify," he said, also criticizing the lack of testimony from crime scene witnesses at the preliminary inquiry.


About 75 people marched in the memory of Vienneau in Tracadie a year after his death. (Bridget Yard/CBC)

Besides Annick Basque, who was with Vienneau when he was shot, all the witnesses who testified were police officers.

Basque's version of events differed from that of the police officers. She testified the officers had not identified themselves, and she thought she and Vienneau were being attacked.

Basque has filed civil action against the City of Bathurst and the police force, and those proceedings are ongoing.

Vienneau family members have written to Justice Minister Denis Landry, asking for a coroner's inquiry into the death, following the Crown's decision not to appeal the latest turn in the criminal proceedings.

Nicolas Vienneau said he is also looking into bringing a petition to the House of Commons to have the identity of the tipster revealed.

"We're still looking for answers," he said.

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 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/michel-vienneau-family-reward-crime-stoppers-tips-1.5378238

Reward offered for information on false tip that led to Michel Vienneau's 2015 death

$10,000 reward put up for information leading to arrest and prosecution of tipster

CBC News· Posted: Nov 29, 2019 4:13 PM AT


Michel Vienneau, 51, of Tracadie, had come off a Via Rail train from Montreal and was in his car when he was shot and killed by police. (Submitted by Nicolas Vienneau)


The family of Michel Vienneau is offering a $10,000 reward to people who have information regarding what led to his death almost five years ago.

This includes information on the "bogus Crime Stoppers tip" that came in before Vienneau was fatally shot by Bathurst police at the Via Rail station on Jan. 12, 2015.

Two tips alleged the 51-year-old Tracadie man was trafficking drugs on the train back from Montreal, where he had gone to watch a hockey game with his fiancée Annick Basque. A subsequent RCMP investigation found no evidence he was involved in criminal activity.

Nicolas Vienneau, Michel Vienneau's brother, ​​​​wrote a public post about the reward on Facebook on Thursday. The post said Vienneau's family is suffering and attempting to cope with their grief over his death. The family did not respond to interview requests.

The post seeks information that leads to the "arrest and prosecution" of anyone involved in Vienneau's death, such as the names of people who led to the police operation.



The Via Rail train station in Bathurst following the January 2015 shooting death of Michel Vienneau. (Bridget Yard/CBC)

It says information provided to the family through an email in the post would be passed along to police for investigation.

Little is known about the source of the tips as Crime Stoppers promises to keep tipsters anonymous.
Yvon Comeau, elected president of Crime Stoppers New Brunswick's board of directors this year, said the program will continue to keep tipsters anonymous.

"If the public want to make and put an ad in the newspaper to find out who the tipster may be, that's their own prerogative," Comeau said.

Alain Tremblay, a retired RCMP officer, told Radio-Canada the family has been through a tragedy.


Alain Tremblay, a retired RCMP officer, says the offer is the first case, as far as he knows, of someone willing to give an award to identify a possible tipster. (Radio-Canada)

"I think it's the first time I'm aware that somebody is willing to give an award to identify a possible tipster," Tremblay said.

The Crime Stoppers program receives calls, texts and online submissions of tips that it then sends along to the relevant police force.

Any identifying information about the tipster is removed before the tip is provided to police. The program, which is run through a charity, doesn't record phone numbers, IP addresses or other data that could lead back to the tipster, according to its website.

"The tipster remains, in terms of identity, only a number and the tip remains anonymous," its website states.

• Michel Vienneau fiancée says she wondered if Bathurst shooting was terror attack

• Operation that led to Michel Vienneau's death in Bathurst 'hasty,' officer says

A Supreme Court of Canada ruling from 2017 says that people who call Crime Stoppers in good faith to provide information to law enforcement have their identities protected by the privilege the law gives to informers. However, that protection has limits.

"And in the context of an anonymous tip to Crime Stoppers, the privilege will not avail in circumstances in which a caller provides a tip with the intention of misleading the police — thus effectively obstructing justice — nor where a person engages in criminal activity solely in his or her personal interest," the decision states.

Crime Stopper's national website includes a section about the case that says that when a question is raised about whether the informer privilege has been applied properly, a private hearing must be held before a judge makes a ruling.

Comeau said he was not aware of the Supreme Court case and couldn't comment on its implications.
  

Bathurst Police Force Const. Mathieu Boudreau, left, and Const. Patrick Bulger are facing a discipline hearing related to the shooting. (Shane Magee/CBC )

The two tips about Michel Vienneau were sent to the Northeast Integrated Intelligence Unit on the morning of Jan. 12, 2015. The now shuttered unit carried out intelligence and surveillance on organized crime and drug trafficking in northeastern New Brunswick. The tips specifically named Vienneau and included information about the make and model of his car at the Bathurst train station.

Plainclothes officers in unmarked cars were waiting for Vienneau when he stepped off the train.

When he started to drive away, police tried to stop him. Annick Basque said she didn't know constables Patrick Bulger and Mathieu Boudreau were police when they appeared in front of Vienneau's car with guns drawn.

• Michel Vienneau 'purposely' hit officer before shooting, RCMP report concluded

• Officer says Michel Vienneau was driving toward another officer when shots fired

When he began to drive, officers believed he was attempting to flee. One officer testified at a police discipline hearing that he was hit by Vienneau's car, prompting the officer's partner to then shoot Vienneau.

Criminal charges against the officers involved in the shooting were dropped after a preliminary inquiry after a judge found there wasn't enough evidence of a crime. Boudreau and Bulger are facing an ongoing police discipline hearing related to their conduct the day of the shooting.

With files from Radio-Canada

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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:00:08 -0400
Subject: Attn Nicolas Vienneau No doubt you have read my comments
within CBC by now Perhaps its time we talked?
To: michelvienneau@protonmail.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

https://www.facebook.com/nicolas.vienneau?fref=search&__tn__=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARCmPli4v8Qq9CR5XjRs3U2AVA5M0dX32DjOMpdibiCUn__WkURB8jQi71gyj_qNeCZsvzwZ5wBD4g-h

Nicolas Vienneau
Yesterday at 2:23 PM ·

Malice, a gift for Christmas! / more bullshit for Christmas!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bathurst-police-arbitration-hearing-decision-vienneau-death-1.5392483


http://charlesotherpersonalitie.blogspot.com/2018/01/nicolas-vienneau-and-blogger-chat-about.html

Friday, 12 January 2018

Nicolas Vienneau and Blogger chat about Michel Vienneau who got killed by the Bathurst Police!!!!

https://youtu.be/4DebYo_iRu0


Posted by Charles Leblanc at 9:51 pm



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bathurst-day-5-police-shooting-hearing-1.5330174

Michel Vienneau 'purposely' hit officer before shooting, RCMP report concluded

Constables Mathieu Boudreau and Patrick Bulger face disciplinary hearing over 2015 fatal shooting

Shane Magee· CBC News· Posted: Oct 22, 2019 10:34 AM AT

Larry Wilson, right, testified Tuesday about leading the RCMP investigation of the Bathurst shooting. (Shane Magee/CBC)

An RCMP investigation into the fatal shooting of Michel Vienneau in 2015 concluded a Bathurst police officer was justified in shooting the man to save the life of the officer's partner.

Bathurst Police Force's chief has recommended constables Mathieu Boudreau and Patrick Bulger be fired over their conduct around the shooting.

Boudreau and Bulger were among several officers waiting at the Via Rail train station for Vienneau based on two false Crime Stoppers tips that he was trafficking drugs back from Montreal. Boudreau and Bulger attempted to intercept Vienneau as he started to drive away from the station.

Larry Wilson led the Nova Scotia RCMP's investigation of the Jan. 12, 2015, shooting and prepared a report with its findings. Key findings were read by a lawyer for one of the officers during a discipline hearing in Bathurst on Tuesday as the author of the report testified.


Bathurst Police Force constables Patrick Bulger, left, and Mathieu Boudreau, centre, leave the hearing Monday with lawyer T.J. Burke. (Shane Magee/CBC)
 
The 21 key findings include that Bulger fired once at the car's rear tire to try to stop it, that Vienneau "purposely" struck Bulger with his car, and Boudreau shot four times to stop an imminent and ongoing threat to his partner's life.

"Pretty big finding, I would say," lawyer T.J. Burke said while cross-examining Wilson about his findings.

"Yes," Wilson said.

Another finding says Vienneau "may" not have known Bulger and Boudreau were police officers.

They dressed in plain clothes with only badges hanging from their necks. Several witnesses have testified this is not unusual for undercover officers. Wilson also said that flashing blue and red lights in the car driven by the officers weren't working.

Wilson said the report used "may" because the investigators can't know for certain.

Annick Basque, Vienneau's fiancée who was with the 51-year-old Tracadie man when the shooting occurred, testified last week she saw two men appearing to argue in a car next to theirs in the parking lot.


Annick Basque, Michel Vienneau's fiancée when he was shot and killed by police in January 2015. ( Francois Vigneault/Radio-Canada)

When Vienneau started to drive, the other car moved to block them. She testified the passenger got out, fell and then stood up and was holding a gun. She said Vienneau tried to move around them and then shots were fired.

There was also paint transfer between Vienneau's white Chevrolet Cruze and the unmarked police car driven by the two officers. The report also concluded that police, after thorough investigation, found no evidence that Vienneau had criminal history or ties.

An appendix to the report examining the use of force concludes that Mathieu Boudreau shot Michel Vienneau to save Patrick Bulger's life and that his actions were justified under the circumstances.

The Via Rail train station in Bathurst was cordoned off for a week following the January 2015 shooting death of Michel Vienneau. (Bridget Yard/CBC)
 
CBC News requested a copy of the report, which has not been publicly released before. Lawyers for the officers opposed disclosure, saying it could influence future witnesses. The arbitrator agreed but said it may be released once evidence is completed.

The now-retired officer testified up to 28 officers were involved in the investigation. His report was prepared to examine whether the shooting was justified and if there were grounds for criminal code charges against the officers.

Manslaughter charges were laid against Boudreau and Bulger based on the RCMP investigation, however a judge ruled there wasn't enough evidence of criminal intent to proceed to trial following a preliminary hearing.


Michel Vienneau and his partner Annick Basque were coming off a Via Rail train from Montreal when police acted on anonymous tips that Vienneau was trafficking drugs. (Facebook)
 
Lawyers for the officers have suggested at multiple times through the hearing that Vienneau hit and ran over Bulger.

Several witnesses have described seeing Bulger fall near the front of Vienneau's car, looking like he was trying to get away from it, and after the shooting limping around the scene.

Miramichi Police Force Const. Larry Matchett, the second witness to testify Tuesday, was also among the Northeast Integrated Intelligence Unit officers at the train station to investigate the Crime Stoppers tips.

He heard Bulger on a police radio give the order to "block" the car. He saw their unmarked police vehicle car stop "face to face" with Vienneau's car. Bulger and Boudreau then got out.

Matchett said Bulger was about 15 feet, or about 4½ metres, in front of the car when it accelerated.


Const. Larry Matchett of the Miramichi Police Force, one of the officers at the train station when Vienneau arrived, testified Tuesday afternoon. (Shane Magee/CBC)
 
"I saw Const. Bulger backing up, trying to get out of the way," Matchett said. Midway across the roadway, Bulger slipped and fell before getting up and continuing to back up. The car then hit a snowbank.

"As it did, Const. Bulger was pushing himself off the front passenger side of the car," Matchett said.

On Monday, two officers who were part of the surveillance operation testified that it was hastily organized after the members of the Northeast Integrated Intelligence Unit were alerted to the tips. The unit, before it was disbanded, brought together six officers from several area police forces.

The tips came in after the Via Rail train Vienneau was on was scheduled to arrive in Bathurst, but the train was late and officers rapidly set up around the station parking lot.

• Operation that led to Michel Vienneau's death in Bathurst 'hasty,' officer says

• 'Fair' to say use of force in Bathurst shooting was appropriate, supervisor says

• Michel Vienneau fiancée says she wondered if Bathurst shooting was terror attack

Last week, the unit's supervisor testified that usually the team gathered intelligence that was used to build a file that partner-police agencies would act upon.

The appointed arbitrator, Joël Michaud, will decide what discipline the officers may face based on the evidence presented at the hearing.

Up to 17 witnesses were expected to testify during the arbitration hearing which began Oct. 16 and was scheduled to wrap up Oct. 25.

However, testimony is taking longer than expected and the possibility of continuing the hearing into next week has been raised.

About the Author

Shane Magee

Reporter

Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC.

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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 15:17:05 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of
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---------- Original message ----------
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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 07:16:57 -0800
Subject: Office Closed - Loyalist Law Office Re: Attn Mr Vienneau here
is a little proof of what I say is true
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com

Effective 1 April, 2018, Loyalist Law Office will be closed for
business (retirement).

All current clients, and clients whose documents are being held at the
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This email will be monitored until June, 2018.

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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Auto-reply from ychoukri@wstephenson.com"<ychoukri@wstephenson.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 10:16:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of what I say is true
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com

Please note that due to illness in the family, I will be away from the
office until next week and will have very limited access to my email.
I apologize for any inconvenience.

Veuillez noter qu'en raison de maladie dans la famille je serai absent
du bureau jusqu'à la semaine prochaine.  J'aurai un accès très limité
à mes couriels.  Je m'excuse de tout inconvénients.


---------- Original message ----------
From: "Harpelle, Paul  (ENB)"<Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 15:17:07 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of
what I say is true
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

I am away from my office until January 6, 2020. I will be checking my
e-mails on occasion.

Je suis absent de mon bureau jusqu'au le 6 janvier 2020. Je vérifierai
mon courriel occasionnellement.


---------- Original message ----------
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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 10:17:49 -0500
Subject: Undeliverable: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of
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To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com

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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Côté, Yves"<Yves.Cote@cef-cce.ca>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 15:17:03 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of
what I say is true
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Je serai de retour le 6 janvier prochain.

En cas d'urgence, communiquez avec Me Marc Chénier au 819 939-2062.

--
I will be back on January 6, 2020.

In case of emergency, contact Marc Chénier at 819 939-2062.


For the record I talked to Annick Basque personally and she was not
interested in talking to me and hung up. So be it. I will just sit
back and continue to watch the circus


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:04:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Attn Nicolas Vienneau Proof of what?
To: michelvienneau <michelvienneau@protonmail.com>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Proof of what?

On 12/26/19, michelvienneau <michelvienneau@protonmail.com> wrote:
> Mr Amos,
>
> Your comments were found directely on the CBC wedsite.  Thank you but we are
> looking for proof.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> Le jeudi 26 décembre 2019 09:29, michelvienneau
> <michelvienneau@protonmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Mr Amos,
>>
>> No comments were found. Could you please copy and resend back to us.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> Le mercredi 25 décembre 2019 17:00, David Amos
>> david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com a écrit :
>>
>> > https://www.facebook.com/nicolas.vienneau?fref=search&tn=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARCmPli4v8Qq9CR5XjRs3U2AVA5M0dX32DjOMpdibiCUn__WkURB8jQi71gyj_qNeCZsvzwZ5wBD4g-h
>> > Nicolas Vienneau
>> > Yesterday at 2:23 PM ·
>> > Malice, a gift for Christmas! / more bullshit for Christmas!
>> > https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bathurst-police-arbitration-hearing-decision-vienneau-death-1.5392483
>
>
>


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 09:53:07 -0400
Subject: Attn Nicolas Vienneau CBC often deletes my words but they
cannot deny that my blog exists
To: michelvienneau@protonmail.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/12/bathurst-officers-involved-in-michel.html

However I just checked and my comments are still there

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bathurst-police-arbitration-hearing-decision-vienneau-death-1.5392483



 81 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.



David Raymond Amos
Go figure why I am not surprised





David Raymond Amos
Methinks my brother must be rolling in his grave in light of the fact
that he was one of the fellas who helped to introduce Crime Stoppers
to the New Brunswick jurisdiction long ago N'esy Pas?












Mike Kennedy
Eastern Canada police forces need help enforcing the law breakers of
"their own". I never cease to be amazed at the legal decisions coming
out of PEI, NFL and NS since forever


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @mike kennedy: YUP Methinks folks should go to a library and
review the news in the summer of 1982 after the RCMP hired me to
testify at a Coroner's Inquiry in New Brunswick and then the RCMP were
sued for a wrongful death N'esy Pas?


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks the Province put the cart
before the horse as usual N'esy Pas?

"The province has said the inquest will take place following the
conclusion of the discipline hearing, though dates have not been set.

Coreen Enos, a spokesperson with the Department of Public Safety, told
CBC News the inquest would only be held once "all legal proceedings"
related to the hearing, such as any judicial review, are exhausted.

An inquest is a formal court proceeding that allows for public
presentation of evidence relating to a death to help clarify the facts
and circumstances.

The coroner does not assign responsibility or blame, but there may be
recommendations on how to prevent similar deaths in the future."

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks many lawyers will make certain
that the fat lady does not sing to soon for their benefit N'esy Pas?

"While the discipline hearing is over, there are still other
proceedings related to the shooting underway. A civil case filed by
Vienneau's family against the city and the officers is continuing
through court. "

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @mike kennedy: "Michaud said he had "grave concerns" about
the reliability of Basque's testimony because of inconsistencies with
her own evidence and that of others, including misidentifying whether
it was Boudreau or Bulger who was driving the unmarked car and shot
Vienneau."

Furthermore methinks the lawyer Joël Michaud has not heard the last
word from the lawyers working Annick Basque N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/annick-basque-second-lawsuit-1.3339685

etc etc etc


‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
From: michelvienneau <michelvienneau@protonmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 13:29:04 +0000
Subject: Re: Attn Nicolas Vienneau No doubt you have read my comments
within CBC by now Perhaps its time we talked?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Mr Amos,

No comments were found. Could you please copy and resend back to us.

Thank you!



Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
Le mercredi 25 décembre 2019 17:00, David Amos
<david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> a écrit :

> https://www.facebook.com/nicolas.vienneau?fref=search&tn=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARCmPli4v8Qq9CR5XjRs3U2AVA5M0dX32DjOMpdibiCUn__WkURB8jQi71gyj_qNeCZsvzwZ5wBD4g-h
>
> Nicolas Vienneau
> Yesterday at 2:23 PM ·
>
> Malice, a gift for Christmas! / more bullshit for Christmas!
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bathurst-police-arbitration-hearing-decision-vienneau-death-1.5392483






---------- Orginal message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:16:48 -0400
Subject: Attn Mr Vienneau here is a little proof of what I say is true
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com,michelvienneau@protonmail.com
Cc: carl.urquhart@gnb.ca, loyalistlaw@gmail.com, john.green@gnb.ca,
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Yves.Cote@elections.ca, Marc.Mayrand@elections.ca,
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david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

On 1/7/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: A little Deja Vu for the Police Commission N'esy Pas Stevey Boy Roberge?

> https://www.nbpolicecommission.ca/en/about-us
>
> Commission Members:
>
> Lynn Chaplin, Acting Chair - Biography
> Marc Léger, member - Biography
> Robert (Bob) Eckstein, member, Biography
> John W. Foran, member
> Jill Whalen, Acting Executive Director / CEO
>
>
>
> https://www.nbpolicecommission.ca/images/2018-09-10_Bob_Eckstein_english.pdf
>
>
> ROBERT ECKSTEIN
> New Brunswick Police Commission
> Phone : (506) 453-2069
> Fax : (506) 457-3542
> Email : nbpc@gnb.ca
>
>
>
> https://www.stu.ca/socialwork/contact-us/
>
> Bob Eckstein
> Field Education Coordinator
> Brian Mulroney Hall 304
> Phone: 506-452-7702
> Fax: 506-452-0611
> Email: beckstein@stu.ca
>
> https://www.nbpolicecommission.ca/images/2018-09-11_Marc_Leger_english.pdf
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 01:21:47 -0400
> Subject: Re: Hey TJ Burke and Louie Lafleur January 11th is coming
> fast Ya can't say that your buddies and the Police Commission ain't
> mentioned bigtime in my complaint N'esy Pas Stevey Boy Roberge?
> To: loyalistlaw@gmail.com, "john.green"<john.green@gnb.ca>,
> tj@burkelaw.ca, "lou.lafleur"<lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca>,
> jeddy@coxandpalmer.com, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre
> <andre@jafaust.com>, sunrayzulu <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, "greg.byrne"
> <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, paulzed@zed.ca, smay@coxandpalmer.com, nbpc
> <nbpc@gnb.ca>, ychoukri@wstephenson.com, "Paul.Harpelle"
> <Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca>, "Michael.Quinn"
> <Michael.Quinn@electionsnb.ca>, "Yves.Cote"<Yves.Cote@elections.ca>,
> "Marc.Mayrand"<Marc.Mayrand@elections.ca>, "steve.roberge"
> <steve.roberge@gnb.ca>, Randy.Reilly@fredericton.ca, "Leanne.Fitch"
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> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 00:05:07 -0500
> Subject: Re: Hey TJ Burke and Louie lafleur January 11th is coming
> fast Ya can't say that your buddies and the Police Commission ain't
> mentioned bigtime in my complaint N'esy Pas Stevey Boy Roberge?
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> On 1/5/16, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Like Hell the NBPC do not get my emails EH?
>>
>> On 12/30/15, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Happy New Year and Please Enjoy :)
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/stephen-horsman-says-police-act-to-be-modernized-1.2974589
>>
>>
>> Stephen Horsman says Police Act to be modernized
>> New Brunswick Police Commission is calling for 13 changes to the law
>>
>> By Jacques Poitras, CBC News Posted: Feb 27, 2015 6:42 AM AT
>>
>>
>>
>> Public Safety Minister Stephen Horsman says his department is working
>> on changes to the Police Act that will modernize the oversight of
>> municipal police officers and departments.
>>
>> Horsman says it’s too early to talk about specific changes, but he
>> says officials will "look at the whole act, what needs to be updated,
>> what needs to be modernized, to meet the needs of 2015, not the 1960s
>> or 1970s."
>>
>> His comments come after the 2013-14 annual report by the New Brunswick
>> Police Commission called for updates to the law.
>>
>> "We are of the opinion that the time has come to re-open the Police
>> Act and to make changes that are necessary to ensure that police
>> oversight is in step with current practices across the country," the
>> report states.
>>
>> Horsman, a retired Fredericton city police officer, says the public’s
>> expectations of transparency in law enforcement are higher than they
>> were when the legislation was written.
>>
>> "Today, people are more inclined to question or to ask questions about
>> their rights, especially dealing with police officers or police
>> departments and I applaud them for that. They should be," he says.
>> Police commission seeking 13 changes
>>
>> Steve Roberge, the police commission’s executive director, says the
>> organization is looking for 13 changes.
>>
>> One would allow the commission to extend the time it has to
>> investigate a complaint. The law says if it doesn’t complete an
>> investigation within six months and send it to arbitration or a
>> settlement conference, it loses jurisdiction.
>>
>> "The problem with that is that some investigations, for example for
>> harassment, involve a lot of interviews and many employees and
>> witnesses and they take a very long time," Roberge said.
>>
>> He’d like to see the law changed so that — like the legislation in
>> British Columbia — it gives the commission the power to extend the
>> time limit in certain cases.
>>
>> "It’s an issue of fairness, not only to the complainants to make sure
>> we do a thorough investigation and not be pressed by time limits, but
>> also to the … police officer who’s the subject of the complaint, to
>> give them a thorough investigation and ensure we get all the facts
>> properly," he says.
>>
>> Woodstock police
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Commission received 64 complaints last year.
>> (CBC)
>>
>> Another change would let the commission assign multiple investigators
>> to complex complaints. At the moment, it can only assign one
>> investigator per case.
>>
>> But some investigations require more people, Roberge says, and "we
>> can’t do that under the act."
>>
>> The commission investigates complaints from the public about the
>> conduct of municipal police officers.
>>
>> The RCMP has its own complaints process that covers its officers, who
>> handle policing in areas of New Brunswick without municipal forces.
>>
>> The commission also has a role in ensuring adequate policing
>> throughout the province and must be consulted if a municipality wants
>> to cut the number of officers.
>>
>> The commission’s report also raises a concern that more police
>> officers, who are the subject of complaints, are opting out of the
>> settlement conference process.
>>
>> That process allows the complainant, the officer, and the officer’s
>> chief of police to deal with the complaint informally, which takes
>> less time and costs less money than a full arbitration hearing.
>>
>> "It’s an efficiency issue. A settlement conference is done locally and
>> doesn’t require a lot of expenditures," Roberge said.
>>
>> It also means the process isn’t public, but Roberge says the
>> complainant, the officer, and the officer’s manager are all in the
>> settlement conference and know what happens.
>>
>> It’s the officer’s right to opt out of the settlement conference and
>> Roberge says he doesn’t know why they’re doing that.
>>
>> Roberge says the commission handled a total of 56 files in 2013-14
>> containing a total of 64 allegations. Half dealt with alleged abuse of
>> authority, fewer than a quarter alleged discreditable conduct, and the
>> rest made other allegations such as neglect of duty.
>>
>> Of the 64 allegations, 13 per cent were dismissed and four per cent
>> were withdrawn, while 50 per cent were investigated and didn’t require
>> further action.
>>
>> Sixteen per cent of the complaints were still unresolved at the end of
>> 2013-2014 and 17 per cent went to arbitration.
>>
>> Of the cases that went to arbitration, one led to sanctions against a
>> police officer, Roberge said.
>>
>> In that case, a Woodstock town police officer, Const. John Morrison,
>> was suspended for a week without pay after an arbitrator found he had
>> abused his authority while off duty.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:10 +0000
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>> Deja Vu for the CBC, CTV, the Irving newsrags, the Fat Fred City
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>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 07:39:07 -0800
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>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:08 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: Sometimes less is more So heres a little
>> Deja Vu for the CBC, CTV, the Irving newsrags, the Fat Fred City
>> Finest & their lawyers, Chucky Leblanc and his fan club and his unamed
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:08 +0000
>> Subject: Automatic reply: Sometimes less is more So heres a little
>> Deja Vu for the CBC, CTV, the Irving newsrags, the Fat Fred City
>> Finest & their lawyers, Chucky Leblanc and his fan club and his unamed
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>> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
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>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 07:39:07 -0800
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>> http://www.nbpolicecommission.ca/site/images/ArbiDecisionEnglish/LIST%20OF%20ARBITRATORS%20English%20Updated%20May%2022%202015%20FOR%20WEBSITE.pdf
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/police-commission-finances-arbitrations-1.3330608
>>
>>
>> New Brunswick Police Commission funding running out
>> Arbitrations involving police officers threatening to drive
>> commission's finances into the red
>>
>> By Catherine Harrop, CBC News Posted: Nov 23, 2015 7:55 AM AT
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Commission is running out of cash to cover
>> the cost of arbitration hearings even as more cases are being put on
>> its agenda, according to its executive director.
>>
>> Steve Roberge, the commission's executive director, said arbitration
>> hearings and settlement conferences are quickly eating through the
>> commission's budget.
>>
>> He said the average settlement conference would cost the chief of
>> police, or the civic authority or the commission, approximately
>> $20,000. But he said the average cost for an arbitration hearing is
>> about $56,000.
>>
>> "Our biggest challenge right now is that we have 50 per cent of our
>> year completed and we have expended almost three-quarters of our
>> funding," he said.
>>
>>     'Our biggest challenge right now is that we have 50 per cent of
>> our year completed, and we have expended almost three-quarters of our
>> funding.'
>>     - Serge Roberge, executive director New Brunswick Police Commission
>>
>> The commission has completed three arbitration hearings this year
>> involving officers from Saint John, Fredericton and Beresford-Nigadoo.
>>
>> Roberge said the single biggest cost for the commission, after
>> salaries, is legal fees.
>>
>> Three hearing in the past two years have run up tabs totaling $152,077.
>>
>> The estimated cost of the investigation and hearing for Fredericton's
>> Const. Jeffrey Smiley is expected to be another $60,000, with the
>> other half of the $120,000 cost being paid by the city.
>>
>> When a dispute can't be resolved in a settlement conference, it  moves
>> to arbitration.
>>
>> The commission does not hear all arbitration hearings and only deals
>> with ones where the chief of police is, or appears to be, in a
>> conflict of interest, or is new to the Police Act.
>>
>> Roberge said in the past two years, the number of arbitration hearings
>> reaching the commission has steadily increased.
>>
>> "Whether it's a tactic that they're employing, hoping that the
>> commission and the chiefs and civic authorities will back down, or
>> whether it's simply that they're feeling more threatened, I'm not sure
>> what it is, to be candid with you, other than we've noted a trend in
>> the last two years," Roberge said.
>> Union costs rising too
>>
>> The costs are also rising for unions as more cases move to arbitration
>> hearings.
>> hi-shane-duffy
>>
>> Cpl. Shane Duffy, the president of the Fredericton police force union,
>> UBC Local 911, said the rising number of arbitration hearings is also
>> increasing costs for unions.
>>
>> Cpl. Shane Duffy, the president of Fredericton's police union UBC
>> Local 911, laughs at the suggestion that it's a tactic to move to full
>> hearings.
>>
>> Duffy said arbitration hearings cost the union a lot too.
>>
>> According to Duffy, settlement conferences are always better, if both
>> sides come in willing to negotiate.
>>
>> "It would save us all money and save us all time, and save us all
>> angst about going through that subsequent arbitration process," he
>> said.
>>
>> As for why so many more police officers seem to be in conflict with
>> the laws they have sworn to uphold, Cpl. Duffy said stress could be a
>> factor.
>>
>> "Work that used to be shared between 12 officers, now shared between
>> eight officers," he said.
>>
>> "It's just, I believe, a huge contributing factor. Stress related to
>> the every day of the job continues to build and continues to built,
>> and people under stress or duress don't always make the right
>> decisions or the best decisions."
>>
>> An arbitration hearing involving the Fredericton force and Const.
>> Cherie Campbell is scheduled for Dec. 7 and another arbitration
>> involving Smily is scheduled for May 24.
>>
>> The commission must also deal with accusations against Saint John's
>> deputy police chief and the suspension of two Bathurst police officers
>> charged with manslaughter in the shooting death of Michel Vienneau.
>>
>> Roberge said he has been in contact with the Department of Public
>> Safety about the commission's expected shortfall, but the response has
>> been the commission has to work within its budget.
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-officer-accused-of-misappropriation-of-funds-won-t-face-criminal-probe-1.3132476
>>
>>
>> Fredericton officer accused of misappropriation of funds won't face
>> criminal probe
>> N.B. Police Association decides not to file criminal complaint, but
>> conduct investigation ongoing
>>
>> By Redmond Shannon, CBC News Posted: Jun 29, 2015 9:26 PM AT
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Association says it will not be filing a
>> criminal complaint about a Fredericton Police Force officer, accused
>> of misappropriating funds from the association while a member of its
>> executive committee.
>> Fredericton Police
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Association decided not to file a criminal
>> complaint against the Fredericton police officer after he paid an
>> undisclosed amount of money to the association. (Daniel McHardie/CBC)
>>
>> "We had a meeting and we dealt with it internally, with the opinion of
>> our lawyer," said Const. Dean Secord, president of the New Brunswick
>> Police Association (NBPA).
>>
>> Secord says the decision to not file a criminal complaint against the
>> officer was taken after he paid an amount of money to the NBPA, which
>> is a lobby group representing municipal and regional police unions.
>>
>> The paid amount is not necessarily the amount allegedly
>> misappropriated, he said.
>>
>> "What I can tell you is that we have come to agreement on the amount,
>> and from that agreement, and the opinion of the lawyer, that is the
>> amount that was agreed upon," said Secord.
>>
>> "From that, we are going to co-operate with the Police Act
>> investigation, which has started, and we are going to move forward
>> from that," he said.
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Commission (NBPC), a provincial oversight
>> body, is currently investigating a conduct complaint filed by
>> Fredericton Police Chief Leanne Fitch.
>>
>> The accused officer is suspended with pay, pending the outcome of the
>> investigation.
>>
>> ​The NBPC says possible sanctions against an officer it finds guilty
>> of wrongdoing can range from a verbal reprimand to dismissal.
>>
>> "Criminal charges require a criminal investigation from the police
>> force of jurisdiction," said executive director Steve Roberge.
>>
>> The RCMP "are not prepared to investigate without a formal complaint," he
>> said.
>>
>> Secord says the jurisdiction for any criminal investigation would rest
>> with the RCMP because the officer lives outside the city of
>> Fredericton.
>>
>> Last year, Fredericton's former Transit Manager, Tony Hay, resigned
>> after an internal review uncovered "small financial irregularities."
>>
>> The City of Fredericton decided to withdraw criminal charges against
>> the former employee, but Fredericton Police subsequently re-opened the
>> case.
>>
>> In early June, Fredericton Police charged Hay with stealing and
>> defrauding the city of an amount under $5,000.
>>
>> Hay is scheduled to appear in provincial court on July 3.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/police-association-being-bullied-in-misappropriation-probe-says-president-1.3135944
>>
>>
>> Police Association being 'bullied' in misappropriation probe, says
>> president
>> Dean Secord has called lawyer about concerns with Police Commission
>> investigator in Fredericton officer case
>>
>> By Redmond Shannon, CBC News Posted: Jul 02, 2015 7:12 PM AT Last
>> Updated: Jul 02, 2015 7:12 PM AT
>>
>> The president of the New Brunswick Police Association alleges his
>> members are being "bullied" by an investigator, who is looking into
>> allegations that a Fredericton police officer misappropriated funds
>> from the association while a member of its executive.
>> Fredericton Police
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Association decided not to file a criminal
>> complaint against the Fredericton police officer after he paid an
>> undisclosed amount of money to the association. (Daniel McHardie/CBC)
>>
>> Dean Secord says he has contacted a lawyer about his concerns
>> regarding the investigator, who is working on behalf of the New
>> Brunswick Police Commission (NBPC) — a police oversight body.
>>
>> "We are more than willing to co-operate and we want to co-operate to
>> put this matter behind us, but we are not going to be intimidated or
>> bullied to give statements," said Secord, speaking on behalf of the
>> NBPA, a lobby group representing police officers at the provincial
>> level.
>>
>> "[This investigator is] demanding certain items and we have a concern
>> with his demeanour in the way he's demanding this," he said.
>> Law enforcement obligated to co-operate
>>
>> The NBPC has been contacted by a lawyer, confirmed executive director
>> Steve Roberge. But he contends it was pertaining to evidence connected
>> to the investigation.
>>
>> Roberge expects the investigation, which was sparked by a conduct
>> complaint about the unnamed officer by Fredericton Police Chief Leanne
>> Fitch, should be complete in less than six months.
>>
>> "Our investigator will interview all members of the NBPA executive,
>> and if they are law enforcement personnel, then they are obligated,
>> under the Police Act, to co-operate," he said.
>>
>> Secord says he still hasn't been contacted by the investigator. "And
>> I'm the president."
>>
>> Last month, Secord said the NBPA would not be filing a criminal
>> complaint against the accused member, who is currently suspended from
>> the Fredericton Police Force with pay.
>>
>> Secord said the decision was taken after the officer paid an amount of
>> money to the NBPA. The paid amount is not necessarily the amount
>> allegedly misappropriated, he said.
>>
>> The jurisdiction for any criminal investigation would rest with the
>> RCMP, because the officer lives outside the city of Fredericton,
>> Secord said. The RCMP have refused to comment on the matter.
>>
>> ​The NBPC says possible sanctions against an officer it finds guilty
>> of wrongdoing can range from a verbal reprimand to dismissal.
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/2-complaints-about-fredericton-officer-hitting-pedestrian-filed-1.3125773
>>
>>
>> 2 complaints about Fredericton officer hitting pedestrian filed
>> Chief and citizen submitted complaints after witness raised questions
>> about officer leaving scene
>>
>> CBC News Posted: Jun 24, 2015 1:32 PM AT
>>
>> Fredericton Police Chief Leanne Fitch has filed a complaint with the
>> New Brunswick Police Commission regarding the conduct of an officer
>> whose cruiser struck a pedestrian at a downtown crosswalk last
>> weekend.
>>
>> A citizen has also filed a complaint with the commission, which is an
>> independent civilian body that investigates complaints about the
>> conduct of any police officer in New Brunswick.
>>
>> Both complaints were received on Wednesday morning, said executive
>> director Steve Roberge.
>> Fredericton crosswalk where pedestrian hit by police cruiser
>>
>> Greg Collette says he was on the patio at Mexicali Rosa's when he
>> heard the 'loud thud' of a pedestrian being struck by a police cruiser
>> at the adjacent crosswalk. (CBC)
>>
>> They come on the heels of a CBC News report that included witnesses
>> questioning whether the officer involved followed proper procedure.
>>
>> Greg Collette said he saw the officer put the injured man in the back
>> of his cruiser and drive away instead of remaining at the scene and
>> calling for help.
>>
>> "The police officer cannot make judgement on himself and state that
>> what he did was right, or wrong. It has to go through a full
>> investigation," said Collette, a Canadian Forces veteran.
>>
>> The incident occurred on Saturday at about 10 p.m. at a marked
>> crosswalk at the intersection of King and Westmorland streets.
>>
>> A Fredericton Police Force spokesperson has said the pedestrian was
>> treated in hospital for "very minor injuries" and released and that
>> speed was not a factor.
>>
>>     'I told them I was not going to the station, that they should be
>> coming up to the accident where all the witnesses were, that we could
>> all give statements.'
>>     - Greg Collette, witness
>>
>> The investigation is ongoing.
>>
>> Fredericton police have refused to divulge their protocol for officers
>> involved in a traffic accident.
>>
>> RCMP have also refused to disclose their protocol, citing the ongoing
>> Fredericton investigation.
>>
>> Collette says he was on a restaurant patio at the intersection in
>> question when the pedestrian was struck.
>>
>> "We heard a loud thud, I immediately turned and seen a police cruiser
>> across the crosswalk and a man laying in the street," he said.
>>
>> "The pedestrian's shoe had came off and it had flew, I'm guessing
>> somewhere in the vicinity of 20 feet, to the front of the cruiser … He
>> was dazed, you could tell. When he stood up he couldn't stand
>> straight, he was crouched over," said Collette.
>>
>> "We witnessed the police officer exit the vehicle, move around front
>> and apologize and saying that he was sorry, he didn't see him."
>>
>> Collette says he called police, who told him to go to the station.
>>
>> "I told them I was not going to the station, that they should be
>> coming up to the accident where all the witnesses were, that we could
>> all give statements," he said.
>>
>> "We sat at the Mexicali Rosa's from just after 10 o'clock until
>> closing, at midnight, and they had ample opportunity to come up and
>> speak with any witness that was there, and no one did so."
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/police-chief-fitch-cleared-smiley-1.3289049
>>
>>
>> Fredericton police chief Leanne Fitch cleared by commission
>> Police commission investigation stemmed from complaint laid by Const.
>> Jeff Smiley of Fredericton force
>>
>> CBC News Posted: Oct 26, 2015 4:55 PM AT
>>
>> Fredericton police chief Leanne Fitch, and seven of her officers, have
>> been cleared of wrongdoing by the New Brunswick Police Commission in
>> the Jeff Smiley case.
>>
>> Const.Jeff Smiley, of the Fredericton Police Force, laid a complaint
>> with the commission, alleging various contraventions of the New
>> Brunswick Police Act.
>>
>>     Two suspended officers get arbitration dates
>>     Assault charge against Const. Jeffrey Smiley dismissed
>>     Fredericton officer accused of domestic assault
>>
>> Steve Roberge, the executive director of the New Brunswick Police
>> Commission, says, "We've exonerated the police officers involved."
>>
>> He would not release the details of the complaints other than to say
>> they were related to the Police Act code of conduct, "especially given
>> that all members have been exhonerated."
>>
>> Roberge says the police commission's investigator "came to the
>> conclusion that none of the allegations could be sustained."
>>
>> Smiley made the complaint in January. He has said he believes Fitch is
>> attempting to end his career.
>>
>> In October 2014, a domestic assault charge against Smiley was
>> dismissed over a jurisdictional issue.
>>
>> He was accused of assaulting his live-in girlfriend on Feb. 17, 2014.
>> hi-jeff-smiley
>>
>> Const. Jeff Smiley brought a complaint against Fredericton Police
>> Chief Leanne Fitch and seven other members of the force. (Rachel
>> Cave/CBC)
>>
>> However, as the assault is alleged to have occurred at Smiley's
>> parents's house in Nova Scotia, Fredericton police did not have the
>> authority to lay the charge.
>>
>> Smiley now has an arbitration hearing before the New Brunswick Police
>> Commission scheduled for November and another for May 2016.
>>
>> CBC News contacted Police Chief Fitch and was told she is away and
>> unavailable for an interview. But the police chief issued an email
>> statement.
>>
>> "On behalf of the Fredericton Police Force, myself and the affected
>> members named in these complaints, we are pleased that due process has
>> concluded, and that those involved in this unfortunate and complicated
>> matter were acting in good faith and have been exonerated of any wrong
>> doing in the course of our duty," the statement said.
>>
>> Smiley, a decorated officer, has been suspended with pay since he was
>> charged, pending the outcome of the criminal court proceedings.
>>
>> He received the Star of Courage from the Governor General in December
>> 2013 for pulling a 73-year-old woman from her car after it plunged
>> into the St. John River on Jan. 8, 2012.
>>
>> Smiley jumped into the frigid water to break the window and rescue
>> Shirley Foster.
>>
>> He also received a Commanding Officer Commendation in April 2012 for
>> the rescue.
>>
>> The New Brunswick Police Commission's decisions are final. According
>> to Roberge they are only subject to judicial review.
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/barry-macknight-glen-mccloskey-commission-1.3279683
>>
>> Saint John police chief complaint about Glen McCloskey probed
>> Barry MacKnight appointed by New Brunswick Police Commission to
>> examine conduct of deputy chief
>>
>> CBC News Posted: Oct 20, 2015 9:51 AM AT
>>
>> Former Fredericton police chief Barry MacKnight has been appointed by
>> the New Brunswick Police Commission to investigate a complaint made
>> against Saint John Deputy Police Chief Glen McCloskey by the chief of
>> the Saint John Police Department.
>> John Bates, Saint John's police chief
>>
>> John Bates, Saint John's police chief (Twitter)
>>
>> Saint John Police Chief John Bates asked for the investigation on Oct.
>> 14 following testimony that arose during Dennis Oland's second-degree
>> murder trial.
>>
>> During the trial, retired staff sergeant Mike King testified McCloskey
>> suggested he lie under oath about the Richard Oland murder case.
>>
>> McCloskey also testified and denied King's allegations that he
>> suggested the investigator alter his testimony about McCloskey's
>> presence at the bloody crime scene.
>> Deputy Chief Glen McCloskey, Saint John Police Force
>>
>> Deputy Chief Glen McCloskey, Saint John Police Force (CBC)
>>
>> McCloskey served as Saint John's acting police chief between Bill
>> Reid's retirement in April and a few weeks ago when Bates took over
>> the role. McCloskey remains on active duty.
>>
>> Bates directed the Saint John force's professional standards unit to
>> look into the issue and also advised the Saint John Board of Police
>> Commissioners and the New Brunswick Police Commission of the matter.
>>
>> The investigation under the Police Act by MacKnight will not begin
>> until the conclusion of the Oland trial.
>>
>> The trial is expected to run until mid-December.
>> Workshop to discuss Police Act changes
>>
>> The police commission announced the MacKnight appointment as they were
>> set to begin a three-day workshop Tuesday to discuss possible changes
>> to the Police Act.
>>
>> The topics under discussion include everything from the ability to
>> suspend officers without pay, to coming up with a new name for the
>> commission.
>>
>> Police chiefs and municipal representatives from across the province
>> and RCMP officials are honing their pitch to government.
>>
>> Commission executive director Steve Roberge was disappointed police
>> unions and the minister of Public Safety declined to take part.
>>
>> "We are a little concerned that the ministry isn't participating. We
>> would have preferred to see that leadership present today, denoting
>> their support for the revisions to the act," said Roberge.
>>
>> Roberge says he hopes the fact that Public Safety Minister Steve
>> Horsman is a former police officer would make him more aware of why
>> the revisions are needed, and not less inclined to favour them.
>>
>> Roberge says one issue keeps coming up.
>>
>> "The chiefs of police are very adamant about the suspension, without
>> pay, of police officers."
>>
>> Fredericton Police Chief Leanne Fitch said amendments to the Police
>> Act in 2008 have "resulted in some unintended consequences that have
>> been problematic, both in terms of administering the act, as well as
>> discipline and code of conduct proceedings."
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jeff-smiley-arbitration-decision-1.3346714
>>
>>
>> Const. Jeff Smiley dismissed from Fredericton Police Force
>> Smiley's career in law enforcement in New Brunswick 'is definitely
>> done,' said police commission
>>
>> CBC News Posted: Dec 02, 2015 9:39 AM AT
>>
>> "A very clear message'
>>
>> Roberge said Haines's ruling "sends a very clear message" about
>> domestic violence.
>>
>> "Police are required to be trustworthy and are now double held to
>> account," said Roberge, citing a legal case that now requires police
>> to hand over records of the discipline and misconduct of its officers
>> as part of its disclosure obligation to the defence in criminal
>> proceedings.
>> Media placeholder
>>
>> RAW: Steve Roberge on Jeff Smiley2:40
>>
>> "This case law will significantly challenge the day-to-day operations
>> of any police officer whose credibility has been brought into question
>> by a Police Act disciplinary process."
>>
>> A criminal assault charge against Smiley was dismissed earlier over a
>> jurisdictional issue as the assault in question in the case was
>> alleged to have happened in Nova Scotia, so Fredericton police didn't
>> have authority to investigate it and recommend charges.
>>
>> Smiley has been suspended with pay since his arrest on the criminal
>> domestic assault charge in February 2014.
>>
>> The ruling can not be appealed. However, Smiley could seek a judicial
>> review of the arbitrator's decision.
>>
>> Roberge said Smiley's career in law enforcement in New Brunswick "is
>> definitely done."
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-police-cherie-campbell-1.3368027
>>
>> Fredericton police Const. Cherie Campbell arbitration wraps up
>> Closing arguments presented today at N.B. Police Commission arbitration
>> hearing
>>
>> By Philip Drost, CBC News Posted: Dec 16, 2015 3:34 PM AT
>>
>> Lawyers in the arbitration hearing for Const. Cherie Campbell gave
>> their closing arguments Wednesday. Campbell was expected to testify in
>> her own defence, but when her lawyer, T.J. Burke, was asked if he had
>> anyone to call forward, he said no.
>>
>> "That was always an option as to whether she should testify, but she
>> has already testified at a criminal court, at a jury trial in the
>> state of Maine," said Burke.
>>
>> "We didn't feel it was appropriate for her to give her testimony a second
>> time."
>>
>> Campbell is charged with violating the police code of conduct by
>> shoplifting, by attempting to obtain favourable treatment from another
>> police officer, and by asking another police officer to try to keep
>> news about her shoplifting arrest from Chief Leanne Fitch.
>>
>> The arbitration hearing will determine what, if any, discipline
>> Campbell might face stemming from her arrest after pocketing $20 of
>> cosmetics from Marden's discount store in Houlton, Me., in December
>> 2014.
>> Chief Leanne Fitch
>>
>> Fredericton Police Chief Leanne Fitch filed a complaint with the New
>> Brunswick Police Commission about Const. Cherie Campbell. (CBC)
>>
>> Campbell's trial for shoplifting in Maine resulted in a hung jury. The
>> matter ended up being settled out of court without a finding of guilt
>> or innocence.
>>
>> When no further witnesses were called to testify Wednesday, closing
>> arguments began.
>>
>> The lawyer representing Chief Leanne Fitch, who made the charges,
>> Jamie Eddy, told the arbitrator that shop lifting wouldn't have been a
>> big deal, if that was all that happened. He said on a scale from one
>> to 10, the shoplifting was probably only a five.
>>
>> What he said made it a 10 was that Campbell wouldn't take
>> responsibility for her actions. He also said that three different
>> times she tried to use her position as a police officer to get someone
>> to show her leniency.
>>
>> Eddy said that because of this, Campbell should be dismissed from the
>> force.
>>
>> While going over some evidence, Burke argued before arbitrator Cedric
>> Haines this hearing shouldn't be happening. He said that because the
>> case had already gone through the judicial process in Maine, it
>> doesn't make sense to go through the process again.
>>
>> The complaint against Campbell was laid with the New Brunswick Police
>> Commission by Fitch.
>> Lawyer outlines precedents
>>
>> Burke presented some precedents to the arbitrator. He said a case in
>> Toronto had a man who was charged with sexual assault and found
>> guilty, so he lost his job. The man's union appealed this, but it was
>> found that since he was already found guilty, there was no need to go
>> through the process again.
>>
>> Burke argued Campbell's situation was the same, just the other way
>> around. Campbell hadn't been convicted so there wasn't a reason to go
>> through the process again.
>>
>> Lawyer Jamie Eddy, acting on behalf of Fredericton Police Chief Leanne
>> Fitch, said he didn't know of the cases Burke presented, and needed
>> time to respond. Haines told Eddy he could give him a written response
>> to which Burke could also respond.
>>
>> Campbell's lawyer has described the incident as an "honest mistake,"
>> saying Campbell put some lipstick and eyeliners in her pocket after
>> they kept falling out of her cart in Marden's discount store in Maine
>> and then forgot to pay for them when she paid for other items.
>>
>> Burke concluded by saying that if the arbitrator did feel discipline
>> was required, dismissal from the force wasn't the only option. He said
>> that a 20-to-30 day suspension without pay would be appropriate.
>>
>> "The starting point is not dismissal," said Burke during the proceedings.
>>
>> Eddy said that would be fair, if it wasn't for the things Campbell did
>> after she had been caught shoplifting.
>>
>> Both lawyers agreed that Campbell did commit the act of shoplifting.
>> The question comes down to whether the intent was there or not.
>> Arbitrator Haines will look at the evidence and cases he has been
>> given, and hopes to have a decision by Jan. 7.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-police-new-charges-1.3388459
>>
>> 2 more Fredericton police officers face criminal charges
>> Lou Lafleur charged Monday with impaired driving while Tim Sowers
>> faces charge of uttering threats
>>
>> CBC News Posted: Jan 04, 2016 11:58 AM AT
>>
>> Two more members of the Fredericton Police Force are now facing
>> criminal charges.
>>
>> Cpl. Lou Lafleur was charged Monday with impaired driving in relation
>> to an incident in 2015 that was investigated by the Miramichi Police
>> Force.
>>
>> Lafleur remains on active desk duty until the conclusion of the
>> criminal proceedings.
>>
>> He will appear in court on Jan. 18 at 9:30 a.m.
>>
>> On Dec. 22, Sgt. Tim Sowers was charged with uttering threats by the
>> Kennebecasis Regional Force following an incident in June. Further
>> charges are expected.
>>
>> Sowers will appear in Fredericton court on Jan. 27 at 9:30 a.m.
>>
>> Police Act investigations will take place in both cases once the
>> criminal proceedings have concluded.
>>
>> In November, Fredericton officer Darrell Ian Brewer pleaded not guilty
>> to a charge of impaired driving following a single vehicle accident on
>> Aug. 23.
>>
>> The Fredericton force saw two of its members face disciplinary
>> hearings before an arbitrator in New Brunswick Police Commission
>> hearings in 2015.
>>
>> Const. Jeff Smiley was ordered dismissed by the arbitrator for charges
>> originating with a domestic assault.
>>
>> Const. Cherie Campbell was before an arbitrator on a case involving
>> shoplifting and attempting to obtain favourable treatment from another
>> police officer. The arbitrator's ruling in that case is expected this
>> week.
>>
>>
>> Thomas J. Burke
>> Theriault Burke Law
>> 1st Flr. 150 Cliffe St., Suite R6
>> Fredericton, New Brunswick E3A 0A1
>> Phone: (506) 449-1200
>> Fax: (506) 449-1225
>> E: tj@burkelaw.ca
>> www.tblaw.net
>>
>> Jamie Eddy Partner
>> Fredericton
>> Phone: (506) 462-4751
>> Fax: (506) 453-9600
>> Cell: (506) 476-0600
>> jeddy@coxandpalmer.com
>>
>> Zed, L. Paul, Professional Corporation
>> 3189 Rothesay Rd.
>> Rothesay, New Brunswick E2E 5V5
>> Phone: 506-849-4444
>> Email: paulzed@zed.ca
>>
>>
>> http://www1.gnb.ca/legis/calendar/detail-e.asp?ID=112
>>
>> March 23, 2006   1:00PM
>> Legislative Assembly
>> Standing Committee on Public Accounts
>> NOTICE OF MEETING - AGENDA
>> 1 p.m. Department of Justice
>>
>> Appearing: Yassin Choukri, Deputy Minister
>> Suzanne Bonnell-Burley, Assistant Deputy Minister - Justice
>> Michael Comeau, Assistant Deputy Minister - Court Services
>> Neil Foreman, Director, Financial Services
>> Judith Keating, Director, Legislative Services
>> Cedric Haines / Clyde Spinney, Director, Legal Services
>> Glen Abbot, Director, Public Prosecutions
>>
>> Year under review: 2004-2005
>>
>> 2:30 p.m. New Brunswick Advisory Council on Seniors
>>
>> Appearing : Sister Anne Robichaud, Chairperson
>>
>> http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/news/news_release.2011.10.1054.html
>>
>> Office of the Attorney General
>> 2011 Queen's counsel appointments named
>> 07 October 2011
>>
>> Media Contact(s)
>>
>> Paul Harpelle, communications, Office of the Attorney General,
>> 506-453-6543.
>>
>> FREDERICTON (CNB) – Eleven New Brunswick lawyers have been appointed
>> Queen's counsel. Lt.-Gov. Graydon Nicholas made the announcement
>> today.
>>
>> The recipients are:
>>
>> ●    Susan E. Burns, Fredericton;
>> ●    Barbara Hughes Campbell, Fredericton;
>> ●    David R. Colwell, Saint John;
>> ●    François T. Doucet, Campbellton;
>> ●    J. Charles Foster, Fredericton;
>> ●    Bernard Lord, Moncton;
>> ●    James R. McAvity, Saint John;
>> ●    James K. O'Connell, Saint John;
>> ●    Bernard Richard, Cap-Pelé;
>> ●    Marc L. Richard, Fredericton; and
>> ●    D. Ann Whiteway Brown, Woodstock.
>>
>> The chief justice of New Brunswick, J. Ernest Drapeau, chairs the
>> committee that makes recommendations to the lieutenant-governor.
>>
>>
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>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 21:01:30 EST, David Amos
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>>>
>>> http://www.thetyee.ca/Opinion/2016/01/04/New-Dems-Outsmart-Liberals/
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> How New Dems Can Outsmart Liberals in 2016
>>>
>>> Not by moving further left, but by moving ahead (where they've
>>> usually been).
>>>
>>> By Crawford Kilian, Today, TheTyee.ca
>>>
>>> Crawford Kilian
>>>
>>> Crawford Kilian was born in New York City in 1941. He was raised in
>>> Los Angeles and Mexico City, and was educated at Columbia University
>>> (BA '62) and Simon Fraser University (MA '72). He served in the US
>>> Army from 1963 to 1965, and moved to Vancouver in 1967. He became a
>>> naturalized Canadian in 1973.
>>>
>>> Crawford has published 21 books -- both fiction and non-fiction, and
>>> has written hundreds of articles. He taught at Vancouver City College
>>> in the late 1960s and was a professor at Capilano College from 1968
>>> to
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>>> issues in British Columbia, but he is also interested in books,
>>> online
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>>> of Crawford's favourite places is Sointula, a small town off the
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>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:42:25 -0400
>>> Subject: Fwd: A little Deja Vu for you before I am back in Federal
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>>> To: atlanticnews <atlanticnews@ctv.ca>
>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
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>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:32:52 -0400
>>> Subject: A little Deja Vu for you before I am back in Federal Court
>>> Court on Jan 11th
>>> To: brian.barnett@gnb.ca [2], Richard.Williams@gnb.ca [3],
>>> Krista.COLFORD@gnb.ca [4], serge.rousselle@gnb.ca [5],
>>> mcu@justice.gc.ca [6],
>>> jean-francois.dupuis@gnb.ca [7], justice.comments@gnb.ca [8],
>>> johanne.bray@gnb.ca [9], "macpherson.don"
>>> <macpherson.don@dailygleaner.com>, nmoore
>>> <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>
>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
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>>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 01:47:09 -0400
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>>> maya.hamou@gnb.ca [17],
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>>> jean-francois.dupuis@gnb.ca [20],
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>>> <Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, leader
>>> <leader@greenparty.ca>,
>>> complaints@officiallanguages.nb.ca [24],
>>> commissioner@officiallanguages.nb.ca [25], "andrew.scheer"
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>>> http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/contacts/dept_renderer.201794.1433.16683.html#employees
>>> [26]
>>>
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>>> [27]
>>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:42:25 -0400
>> Subject: Fwd: A little Deja Vu for you before I am back in Federal
>> Court Court on Jan 11th
>> To: atlanticnews <atlanticnews@ctv.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:32:52 -0400
>> Subject: A little Deja Vu for you before I am back in Federal Court
>> Court on Jan 11th
>> To: brian.barnett@gnb.ca, Richard.Williams@gnb.ca,
>> Krista.COLFORD@gnb.ca, serge.rousselle@gnb.ca, mcu@justice.gc.ca,
>> jean-francois.dupuis@gnb.ca, justice.comments@gnb.ca,
>> johanne.bray@gnb.ca, "macpherson.don"
>> <macpherson.don@dailygleaner.com>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "brian.t.macdonald"
>> <brian.t.macdonald@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon"<David.Coon@gnb.ca>
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/portal/page/portal/fc_cf_en/East_List
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 01:47:09 -0400
>> Subject: Yo Danny Boy Bussierres Who do ya think Serge Rouselle will
>> send to argue me about your actions in Federal Court???
>> To: "dan. bussieres"<dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, Richard.Williams@gnb.ca,
>> "marc.chiasson"<marc.chiasson@mcinnescooper.com>,
>> Denis.Theriault@gnb.ca, "serge.rousselle"<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
>> "sebastien.michaud"<sebastien.michaud@gnb.ca>,
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>> nancy.forbes@gnb.ca, david.eidt@gnb.ca, jean-francois.dupuis@gnb.ca,
>> "claude.poirier"<claude.poirier@snb.ca>, heather.doyle.landry@gnb.ca,
>> Krista.COLFORD@gnb.ca, brian.barnett@gnb.ca, sallybrooks25
>> <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "martin.gaudet"
>> <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "Wayne.Gallant"
>> <Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>,
>> complaints@officiallanguages.nb.ca,
>> commissioner@officiallanguages.nb.ca, "andrew.scheer"
>> <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>
>>
>> http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/contacts/dept_renderer.201794.1433.16683.html#employees
>>
>> http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/contacts/dept_renderer.173.11143.1768.html#employees
>>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:23:18 -0300
>> From: "David Amos"david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> To: "Eidt, David (OAG/CPG)"David.Eidt@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>> t.j.burke@gnb.ca, police@fredericton.ca, danny.copp@fredericton.ca,
>> jacques.boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, jeff.mockler@gnb.ca,
>> samperrier@hotmail.com
>> Subject: Re: Hey Mr Eidt is it you or the RCMP I argue in order to get
>> my Harley and the wiretap tapes back?
>>
>> Go cry a river to your boss T.J. Burke or his buddy Jeff Mockler I
>> know what I sent you and I understand your obligations as a lawyer and
>> a public servant . It is not harrassment tio expect a bureaucrat in
>> the justice dept to uphold the law. You are a liar sir please allow me
>> to tell your boss and the cops for you what I think of you. Please all
>> the cops I already have your false allegations in writing and you have
>> only some of my files. Can you think of any reason why I shouldn't sue
>> you personally someday after we argue professionally?
>>
>> Veritas Vincit
>> Davidraymond Amos
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Eidt, David (OAG/CPG) David.Eidt@gnb.ca
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mr. Amos,
>>
>> You sent me two pieces of email on March 24, 2008. They have nothing
>> to do with me either personally or professionally. Please note that
>> your correspondence is unwanted. Any further such communications will
>> be considered harassing in nature. Please do not send me any more of
>> your communications.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Eidt
>> Legal Services
>> Office of the Attorney General
>> Tel: (506) 453-3964
>> Fax: (506) 453-3275
>> david.eidt@gnb.ca
>>
>> Notice : CONFIDENTIAL and PRIVILEGED. This document contains
>> privileged and confidential information and should not be distributed
>> or copied to anyone without prior consultation with the author. Thank
>> you.
>>
>> Avis : CONFIDENTIEL et PRIVILÉGIÉ. Ce document contient des
>> renseignements privilégiés et confidentiels et ne devrait être copié
>> ou circulé sans consultation préalable avec l'auteur. Merci.
>>
>> From: Advocacy Collective advocacycollective@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Charles LeBlanc Website Post - NB Justice Minister Burke
>> Defending False Conviction
>> To:
>> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:05 PM
>>
>> I am personally aware of another very similar case involving the same
>> prosecutor-turned-judge, and so I have little reason to doubt that
>> this man helped to have Mr. Walsh wrongly convicted. Maybe instead of
>> looking into Walsh's track record, T.J. Burke should look into the
>> track records of his own prosecutors and appointed judges. We could
>> also look into Mr. Burke's own criminal past, since I understand that
>> he has been convicted of at least one offence. He is also arguably
>> guilty of obstruction of justice, not just in the Walsh case, but in
>> my own case, where he has refused to do anything about his own
>> department effectively banning me from court in order to maintain my
>> wrongful conviction for contempt of court. This is an issue of
>> corruption and hypocrisy that is much larger than Mr. Walsh's almost
>> certain wrongful conviction.
>> - Vaughn Barnett
>>
>> First the Irving's Rags write this about the doings between T.J. Burke
>> and I last year. have my blog and emails killed then sing your praises
>> about your legal Bullshit next year? Have alook for yourself lady
>>
>> Threat against Burke taken seriously
>>
>> By STEPHEN LLEWELLYN
>> dgleg@nb.aibn.com
>> Published Thursday May 24th, 2007
>> Appeared on page A1
>> An RCMP security detail has been guarding Justice Minister and
>> Attorney General T.J. Burke because of threats made against him
>> recently.
>>
>> Burke, the Liberal MLA for Fredericton-Fort Nashwaaksis, wouldn't
>> explain the nature of the threats.
>>
>> "I have had a particular individual or individuals who have made
>> specific overtures about causing harm towards me," he told reporters
>> Wednesday.
>>
>> "The RCMP has provided security to me recently by accompanying me to a
>> couple of public functions where the individual is known to reside or
>> have family members in the area," said Burke. "It is nice to have some
>> added protection and that added comfort."
>>
>> The RCMP provides protection to the premier and MLAs with its VIP
>> security
>> unit.
>>
>> Burke didn't say when the threat was made but it's believed to have
>> been in recent weeks.
>>
>> "When a threat is posed to you and it is a credible threat, you have
>> to be cautious about where you go and who you are around," he said.
>> "But again, I am more concerned about my family as opposed to my own
>> personal safety."
>>
>> Burke said he doesn't feel any differently and he has not changed his
>> pattern of activity.
>>
>> "It doesn't bother me one bit," he said. "It makes my wife feel awful
>> nervous."
>>
>> Burke served in an elite American military unit before becoming a
>> lawyer and going into politics in New Brunswick.
>>
>> "(I) have taken my own precautions and what I have to do to ensure my
>> family's safety," he said. "I am a very cautious person in general due
>> to my background and training.
>>
>> "I am comfortable with defending myself or my family if it ever had to
>> happen."
>>
>> Burke said it is not uncommon for politicians to have security concerns.
>>
>> "We do live unfortunately in an age and in a society now where threats
>> have to be taken pretty seriously," he said.
>>
>> Since the terrorism attacks in the United States on Sept. 11, 2001,
>> security in New Brunswick has been
>> beefed up.
>>
>> Metal detectors were recently installed in the legislature and all
>> visitors are screened.
>>
>> The position of attorney general is often referred to as the
>> province's "top cop."
>>
>> Burke said sometimes people do not differentiate between his role as
>> the manager of the justice system and the individual who actually
>> prosecutes them.
>>
>> "With the job sometimes comes threats," he said. "I have had numerous
>> threats since Day 1 in office."
>>
>> Burke said he hopes his First Nations heritage has nothing to do with it.
>>
>> "I think it is more of an issue where people get fixated on a matter
>> and they believe you are personally responsible for assigning them
>> their punishment or their sanction," he said.
>>
>> Is the threat from someone who was recently incarcerated?
>>
>> "I probably shouldn't answer that," he replied.
>>
>> Reporters asked when the threat would be over.
>>
>> "I don't think a threat ever passes once it has been made," said
>> Burke. "You have to consider the credibility of the source."
>>
>> Bruce Fitch, former justice minister in the Conservative government,
>> said "every now and again there would be e-mails that were not
>> complimentary."
>>
>> "I did have a meeting with the RCMP who are in charge of the security
>> of the MLAs and ministers," said Fitch.
>>
>> "They look at each and every situation."
>>
>> Fitch said he never had bodyguards assigned to him although former
>> premier Bernard Lord and former health minister Elvy Robichaud did
>> have extra security staff assigned on occasion.
>>
>> He said if any MLA felt threatened, he or she would discuss it with the
>> RCMP.
>>
>> Group studies its legal options
>> Early immersion | Reversal of decision wanted ASAP
>> By JENNIFER DUNVILLE
>> dunville.jennifer@dailygleaner.com
>> Published Tuesday April 8th, 2008
>> Appeared on page A1
>>
>>
>> "Lafleur, Lou"lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca wrote:
>>
>> From: "Lafleur, Lou"lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca
>> To: "'motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com'"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com,
>> "Lafleur, Lou"lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca
>> Subject: Fredericton Police Force
>> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:21:13 -0300
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos
>>
>> My Name is Lou LaFleur and I am a Detective with the Fredericton
>> Police Major Crime Unit. I would like to talk to you regarding files
>> that I am investigating and that you are alleged to have involvement
>> in.
>>
>> Please call me at your earliest convenience and leave a message and a
>> phone number on my secure and confidential line if I am not in my
>> office.
>>
>> yours truly,
>>
>> Cpl. Lou LaFleur
>> Fredericton Police Force
>> 311 Queen St.
>> Fredericton, NB
>> 506-460-2332
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> This electronic mail, including any attachments, is confidential and
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>> Any unauthorized distribution, copying, disclosure or review is
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>> anyone other than the intended recipient constitutes waiver of
>> privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately
>> notify the sender and then delete this communication and any
>> attachments from your computer system and records without saving or
>> forwarding it. Thank you.
>>
>> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 07:56:09 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: "David Amos"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Who says they are ignoring me Chucky? Ask Barry McKnight why
>> the Yankees are researching him
>> To: news@dailygleaner.com, kcarmichael@bloomberg.net,
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>> dan.keenan@fredericton.ca, jeff.mockler@gnb.ca,
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>> jlmockler@mpor.ca, scotta@parl.gc.ca, michael.bray@gnb.ca,
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>> all exicted and send this all over the world.....lol
>>
>

Methinks its only proper Higgy and his cohorts go into the New Year still battling greedy people within the Health Care system N'esy Pas?

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-doctors-billing-top-medical-earners-1.5409391

Busy family doctor tops list of N.B. medical earners for first time

Forced out of Fredericton because of her large practice, Dr. Sunita MacMullin continues to practise in Sussex

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Dec 30, 2019 7:00 AM AT 

Dr. Sunita MacMullin, who has an office in Sussex, billed the province nearly $1.7 million for medical services last year, more than any other physician. (Facebook)

A record 37 New Brunswick doctors were paid more than $1 million by the province for medical services last year and for the first time a general practitioner — not a radiologist — led the list of top billers.

Dr. Sunita MacMullin, a family doctor from Fredericton who relocated to Sussex after the size of her practice became a problem to manage, billed just under $1.7 million during the fiscal year ended March 31, 2019. She's also the first woman to lead the list of top billers.

MacMullin is away until the new year, according to her office and could not be reached for comment.

It's just the fourth year the province has released amounts it pays medical practitioners following a recommendation made in 2012 by Auditor General Kim MacPherson.

Last year Dr. Martin Finnegan, a diagnostic radiologist at the Dr. Georges-L.-Dumont hospital in Moncton led the list, displacing Dr. Stewart MacMillan, a radiologist in Miramichi who topped all earners in the first two years

This year, Finnegan tied for third on the list and MacMillan tied for fifth, costing the province just over and just under $1.5 million respectively.

Although controversial in other provinces, including Ontario, where doctors have fought to keep their billings secret, the public disclosure of doctor pay in New Brunswick has the official endorsement of the local medical community.
 
The province spent $666.6 million on medicare last year and New Brunswick medical society president Dr. Chris Goodyear said the public has a right to see where that money goes.


Dr. Chris Goodyear, president of the New Brunswick Medical Society, says taxpayers have a right to know how much doctors are paid by the province. (New Brunswick Medical Society)

"The New Brunswick Medical Society supports the publication of payments to physicians," said Goodyear in a statement released by the society. "It provides transparency and accountability to taxpayers on how their provincial health-care budget is spent."

Goodyear is a general surgeon at the Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional Hospital in Fredericton and is himself part of the disclosure. He was paid just under $750,000 by the province last year, in a group tied for 91st on the province's list of medical earners.

New Brunswick has nearly 1,900 practising physicians. The majority earned less than $350,000 from the province last year but the number who make more than $1 million continued to grow.

Former Fredericton doctor happy in Sussex

MacMullin's billings have increased steadily over the four years from just under $1 million in the 2016 fiscal year, when she was tied for 25th on the list, to her current spot at the top.

MacMullin made news in 2017 when she sent a letter to her Fredericton patients informing them she was leaving the city for Sussex because other family doctors in the area complained her practice had grown too large with too many patients in hospital for them to cover for her during off-hours or vacations.

• Fredericton doctor with 'too many patients' forced to leave city

"Every proposal I had was met with a simple, 'No, we're not going to give you any backup,'" MacMullin wrote, in explaining her decision to relocate.

"This in itself is risky for me to be on 24 [hours], seven days a week and never having any vacation. 
"Luckily, my colleagues in Sussex … have welcomed my practice of medicine to the area and have created a healthy system of "on-call" support for one another."

MacMullin is one of several family doctors among the province's top billing physicians. Dr. Luan Le of Saint John billed the province just under $1.4 million last year and appears seventh on the list, and Dr. Gerard Losier of Miramichi tied for eighth for billings of just under $1.3 million.


Dr. Gerard Losier, left, of Miramichi billed the province $1.3 million for the year ended March 31, 2019. Losier has also given millions of dollars over the last decade to the Miramichi Regional Hospital Foundation. (Facebook/Miramichi Regional Hospital Foundation 2014 Gala)

Losier has long operated one of the largest medical practices in New Brunswick but is better known for donating much of what he earns back to the community. 

According to the Canada Revenue Agency, Losier gave more than $625,000 to Miramichi medical charities in 2018 from his and his wife's foundation — most of that to the local hospital and hospice.

The top-earning specialist in the province last year — and second on the list to MacMullin — was Fredericton ophthalmologist Dr. Kenneth Roberts. He was paid just under $1.6 million.

Roberts has been second on the list of top medical earners in New Brunswick all four years it has been published.

In total, 37 doctors were paid more than $1 million by the province last year, up from 31 two years ago.


New Brunswick Auditor General Kim MacPherson called for public disclosure of doctor billings and salaries in 2012 and for the last four years the province has complied. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

In 2012, MacPherson found doctor billings in New Brunswick operate mostly on the honour system, and she recommended more attention be paid to the issue, including the public disclosure of what doctors charge the province for their services.

"In order for the department to demonstrate proper accountability for over half of a billion dollars in annual spending, we believe the distribution of this spending should be publicly reported and subject to public scrutiny," MacPherson wrote.

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158 Comments






David Raymond Amos
"In order for the department to demonstrate proper accountability for over half of a billion dollars in annual spending, we believe the distribution of this spending should be publicly reported and subject to public scrutiny," MacPherson wrote.

Amen

















David Raymond Amos  

Methinks I should be fair and disclose that whereas Higgy and his cohorts will not issue me a Medicare Card I have had to pay for my health care and I have found the doctor fees to be reasonable and their service is excellent. Obviously I cannot say the same of the government denying me my right to free health care N'esy Pas?

Chris McNee 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Hi David, by the number if posts you make online, surely you could use your time better to find employment that offers benefits like medical coverage?

 

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Chris McNee: Methinks your lawyer should check my work N'esy Pas?

Chris McNee  

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I don’t know your situation, but witness similar with knowing others who don’t have full medical coverage. Free medical is the coverage of hospital care only (in a basic definition) I feel all prescriptions should be covered, regardless of income. To simply complain about the government and to throw around the word lawyer seems like an idle threat and the government retains its own lawyers. I hope you win your case, I really do. I did my full career in the army as my parents drilled into me the importance of a pension (albeit a small one, and lastly medical benefits)

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Chris McNee: Methinks you should have read my lawsuit against the Queen (Statement 83 in particular) before the ex army dude in you jerked my chain N'esy Pas?

Chris McNee  

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I have know idea what your referring to about a suit against the crown? Reply with a link? I very much enjoy learning about wrongs being righted!

Theo Lavigne

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Cry me a river.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Chris McNee: Ask the lawyers at NB Power to show you my file BTW I was accepted to RMC in 1970 but opted not to go

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Theo Lavigne: What would you do without a Medicare Card?


Chris McNee
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: you should have gone to RMC, it was free education, a touch of B.S. from time to time mind you :) 


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Chris McNee: Thats what I smelled coming from the dudes trying to recruit me Hence I did not go. However clearly you learned that portion of your studies well. Why else would you try to recruit others?















Greg Miller
I presume comments will be limited on this subject for fear of reprisal --such is the environment we find ourselves in with a doctor "shortage". I find it difficult to believe we can't recruit doctors when some are billing well over a million.


Zapata Rigoreto 

Reply to @Greg Miller: They're billing over a million because they work 80+ hours a week. Doctors are private contractors paid by the job. Billing rates are set by the province. The reason they can bill so much is that there is a doctor shortage so plenty of work available.

Greg Miller

Reply to @Zapata Rigoreto: In the case cited that's $442.71 assuming 80 hours a week and some holidays.

Greg Miller

Reply to @Greg Miller: Figure above is per hour.

David Webb

Reply to @Greg Miller: Minus expenses don't forget. Hired a good lawyer lately?

David Raymond Amos

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Reply to @David Webb: Methinks many would agree that there is no such thing as a "good" lawyer Some just charge more than others because they are better connected within a corrupt justice system N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Greg Miller: My doctor does not charge me that rate

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: BINGO

Graham McCormack 

Reply to @Greg Miller: That's not what they made, it's what they billed. 

Donald Gallant

 “ The average Physician - Family Practice salary in Maine is $196,599 as of November 25, 2019, but the range typically falls between $173,162 and $225,622.” (sic)

Billing’s of this kind especially for Family Doctors are suspect and need to be investigated. 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Donald Gallant: Good point

Lou Bell

Much more time spent in Med school these days on how to get top dollar from their patients . One thing that they should be paid well for what they do , but methinks some of these doctors REALLY , REALLY need to be audited !!!!

Steve Kravcik

Reply to @Lou Bell: This is not true.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you think it funny to mimic me N'esy Pas?

Bill Hamilton

Reply to @Lou Bell: Absolutely incorrect. Med students receive nothing about how to set up a practice.

James Risdon

I wonder how how feminist groups are going to spin this to perpetuate their fake narrative of women being paid less than men and to argue that there is systemic discrimination in our society.

Aaron Morris

Reply to @James Risdon:
You are just as obsessed it seems.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Aaron Morris: I concur

Chris McNee  

Reply to @James Risdon: oh ohh, now you’ve done it :)

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Chris McNee: What is it you find so funny?

Chris McNee 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: what I find funny is how this person will point out a valid view and fact based claim only to potentially be word womped :) (womp isn’t really a word I think)

Chris McNee  

Reply to @James Risdon: To say nothing of the fact that well over half of all university degrees go to females. But that's okay!! lol

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Chris McNee: Methinks this is an interesting quote N'esy Pas?

"Thank you for taking the time to review the most flexible and well rounded person you might ever meet.I bring specialized skills that have been developed and proven domestically" 

 

Chris McNee

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: finally someone has read my resume :) 

Chris McNee

 In life you get what you pay for. I’m great full to have such a great family Dr. Our dr is amazing, she makes in the $300 -$350 range and after you subtract taxes, office fees and other things she is paying out, it goes down quickly. Healthcare is so expensive on the province but it’s a necessity for a fit community. If people could also keep in mind to not miss appointments without real cause, as that’s also hurting our bottom line. I’m so lucky and grateful to have our family dr. 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Chris McNee: Methinks you should be grateful to have a doctor who is well paid by my tax dollars because you are lucky enough to have a Medicare Card her services are free to you. I trust that your lawyer understands why I will sue the government you adore to insure my right to the same health care you enjoyN'esy Pas/

Matthew Locke

I'm familiar with Sussex NB. A fantastic community! 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Matthew Locke: Me Too

Mike Connors

It sounds to me like Dr. MacMullin should be thanked instead of vilified. How many people would not have a doctor if she did not take them as patients. If she made that kind of money, there is a problem with our health care system. Surprised?? Nope.

Colin Seeley 

Reply to @Mike Connors:
Seriously.

If there is a problem it lies with the regulators.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Mike Connors: I agree

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nursing-crisis-new-brunswick-university-seats-1.5409022

Why N.B. universities are graduating fewer nurses — despite demand and incentives

Emails show schools pleading for help with rising costs, and province saying nothing until it picked up an axe

Gabrielle Fahmy· CBC News· Posted: Dec 30, 2019 6:00 AM AT 

 

New Brunswick Nurses Union president Paula Doucet has been trying to find out why universities haven't been graduating more nurses. (CBC)

Internal documents, obtained by the New Brunswick Nurses Union and shared with CBC News, show universities weren't trying to enrol more nursing students all these years — they were trying to afford the ones they already had.

New Brunswick hospitals are currently running 400 nurses short, and 40 per cent of those who are working are eligible to retire in the next five years.

The shortage has already forced many hospital services to shut down over the past year, and health authorities estimate they will need to hire as many as 520 new nurses each year just to maintain services.

Despite millions poured into the province's two main universities to address just that, they only graduated 224 nursing students last year.

Twenty per cent of those grads left to go practise in other provinces, making it all a frustrating situation for the nursing union, who has been pushing for more aggressive action for years.
"We're in the midst of the crisis," said Paula Doucet, president of the nurses union.

"Had they listened to us many years ago and put precautionary measures in place, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation today."

It was something that we needed to uncover."

- Paula Doucet, New Brunswick Nurses Union

With a critical shortage already looming back in 2005, the province entered an agreement with the University of New Brunswick and the University of Moncton to graduate more nurses.

The province would give them about $15,000 annually for each new nursing seat created. The universities were to add 100 seats to their year one classes.

But the number of students didn't rise. It fell — a puzzling outcome that finally pushed the union to take the "extreme" step of making a right to information request to get answers.

"We kind of questioned over the years, because of the number of graduates that were coming out of the program … the numbers weren't there," said Doucet.

The nurses union received hundreds of pages of documents related to the 2005 agreement through a right to information request. (CBC)

The union obtained several documents related to the 2005 agreement. They include emails between the universities and the Department of Post-Secondary Education, starting in 2018.

In the correspondence, the schools cite financial challenges related to the nursing program and question their ability to increase enrolment. They also express frustration at the lack of communication with government.

The documents also include the text of the 2005 agreement, which was never released publicly.
In addition to the funding for new seats, the agreement recognizes the high costs of training nursing students and says the province will give universities $3,300 annually for each nursing student they already have.

But in the emails, the universities tell government the costs to nursing faculties have exploded in the past 15 years, and the funding hasn't been sufficient.

"There is no way we could contemplate increasing enrolment," reads one message from UNB.

Why is teaching nursing so expensive?

Nursing is one of the most expensive programs to run at any university, because the costs increase rather than drop for each student taken on.

For example, it costs $24,000 to offer nursing to one student for one year at UNB, about three times the cost of a student in the arts and science program. 

The University of New Brunswick and University of Moncton received provincial money for years to address the nurse shortage and create more seats for nursing students. But instead of creating seats, the universities dropped some. What happened? 3:00

Even with tuition being slightly higher than for other degrees— currently at $8,411 — the universities say they absorb an annual deficit of about $12,000 per nursing student and have always had to take money from other parts of their budgets.

What makes nursing so pricey is the hands-on training, which makes up more than a third of class hours.

It's done in small groups of seven, which means rather than paying one professor to lecture to an auditorium full of students, dozens of additional experts have to be hired each semester.

Rising costs

The current nursing shortage has only compounded the problem, by driving up costs to hire those clinical experts.

Hospital nurses don't have time to train students the way they used to, so universities have to recruit more professors instead.

Over the past 15 years, the costs to the faculty of nursing have risen twice as fast as those of other programs, according to an email from U of M to the province written in January 2019.

Equipment inside nursing labs, which mimics the hospital setting, is one of the reasons the program is so expensive. (CBC)

The emails show the universities expressing concern to the previous Liberal government.

Over the years, as part of the 2005 agreement, both UNB and U of M had to return money to the government when they missed targets for increased enrolment. U of M had to repay all of it, UNB half.

In 2018, the schools tell the province the agreement isn't working and ask that it be revisited. They are told to wait until after the October election.

Then in January 2019, after the Progressive Conservatives have come to power, UNB submits a proposal to the province to address the nursing shortage.

It would see the province cover the entire shortfall, about $12,000 per nursing student, and UNB increase enrolment to full capacity — 800 students in its four years of the bachelor program, up from about 500 currently.

More than a third of class hours in the nursing program are done in groups of seven students. (CBC)

The university explains its costs rose from $16,800 per nursing student in 2011-2012, to $24,000 in 2017-2018.

That's a 43 per cent increase over six years — or six per cent annually.

"The current provincial nursing shortage has magnified these costs since floor nurses are unavailable to be released from regular duties to supervise clinical training," UNB writes.

Poor communication 

Around the same time, UNB's nursing faculty was asking school administration to scrap its licensed practical nurse bridging program because of money struggles. The program had been created in 2013 as an effort to address the nursing shortage.

But the school's emails to the Department of Post-Secondary Education, and its request for a meeting to discuss the proposal, go unanswered.

"I think this makes three requests for a reply, with none," George MacLean, UNB's vice-president of academic, writes in March 2019.   

The University of Moncton has several nursing labs. (CBC)

Then suddenly, the school learns of the cuts coming its way.

In April, the Blaine Higgs government put an end to the 2005 agreement, saying it failed to create new nursing seats. The decision essentially resulted in an $8.7 million funding cut for the current school year.

While focusing on enrolment to defend the cut, Health Minister Ted Flemming said nothing of the other consequence of ending the agreement: the universities lost the $3,300 for each existing student to help with clinical training.

They need to invest, but there needs to be some accountability.

- Paula Doucet, New Brunswick Nurses Union

"The minister said funding was cut because we never met the seat target," wrote Karen Cunningham, UNB's vice-president of administration and finance in an email.

"Absolutely no acknowledgement that clinical has a high cost and that is also cut in this decision."
The cut, coupled with a PC-imposed tuition freeze, plunged UNB into a $2.5 million structural deficit, the emails reveal, with the university contemplating its options.

"I fear that we will be unable to continue to protect our people to the same extent now, however, with the result that many essential services to students and administrative support will suffer," Eddy Campbell, UNB president at the time, says in an email.

Hundreds of future nurses turned down

All this was happening as UNB continued to have long wait lists for its nursing program, with hundreds of students being turned away each year.

Upon learning the 2005 agreement was being done away with, Campbell warns that nursing seats will decline in the fall. 

Enrolment fell again this fall at the University of New Brunswick in the bachelor of nursing program, despite hundreds of people applying. (CBC)

Enrolment of first year nursing students fell to 136 in September 2019, the lowest number in more than a decade, and some 20 students fewer than last year.

"Funding has never been sufficient and this is part of the reason it became unsustainable and enrolment caps became necessary," UNB wrote to the province when it was pleading for more money.

"With reasonable funding, there is growth possible within UNB's structure."

Disheartening

For Paula Doucet, it's been a frustrating process learning why more nurses haven't been graduating from New Brunswick's universities.

"It was very disheartening, but it was something that we needed to uncover because the math didn't add up," she said.

In July, the Higgs government announced its 10-year nursing strategy, with $2.3 million this year focusing on bringing nurses from other countries and provinces, and $500,000 for the bridging program for licensed practical nurses to become registered nurses.

To Doucet, those are Band-Aid solutions. 

In July, Trevor Holder, minister of post-secondary education, training and labour, and Health Minister Ted Flemming announced a 10-year nursing strategy. (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)

"I really don't think they understand the complexity as to why we have the nursing shortage that we do."

Doucet said nursing programs are underfunded, but she believes there needs to be some accountability as well to make sure more nurses come through.

"The universities are not producing enough," she said. "For supply and demand, we are nowhere in the ballpark of doing that.

"They need to invest, but there needs to be some accountability that the money that the government is giving universities is earmarked specifically for the faculty of nursing."

No plan for new seats

The government doesn't have any plans to increase funding for nursing faculties.

A spokesperson for the Department of Post-Secondary Education said it has asked the universities to fund their nursing programs within the regular operating grants they receive each year.

UNB gets $115 million from the province and U of M gets $66 million.

• Report slams province for failing to get more nursing grads, despite $100M investment
• Cuts to nursing programs 'a step backward' during nurse shortage, universities say

When asked why its nursing strategy didn't specifically target the issue of nursing seats, the province said it was a question of efficiency.

"To address the current and future nursing shortage in our province, government is taking action to quickly train more registered nurses to work in the health care system now, versus only relying on new graduates in four years," said Leigh Watson, communications officer for the department.

The bridging program that allows licensed practical nurses to jump to year three of the bachelor of nursing program now has 26 registered students.

While the health authorities say they need to hire 520 new nurses annually, the province disagrees with that number, and has estimated an additional 130 a year will do. 

The universities failed to create more nursing seats, despite an agreement that began in 2005 and provided some financial help. (CBC)

There are currently about 8,000 registered nurses in New Brunswick.

Earlier this month, the province's auditor general came down on the 2005 agreement, questioning why $96 millions in incentives had been handed out to universities, without the promised increase in the number of nursing students.

CBC News reached out to both UNB and U of M for an interview, but they did not make anyone available.

The Nurses Association of New Brunswick, a regulating body for nurses, also declined to be interviewed, saying that without details about funding and the needs of the universities, it could not offer much to the story.

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56 Comments   

Toby Tolly
and they cant pass the nursing test cause theyre taught in chiac.... 

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Toby Tolly: Methinks its only proper Higgy and his cohorts go into the New Year still battling greedy people within the Health Care system N'esy Pas? 

 

Shawn Tabor
This is Business or is it Political, too funny. Little NB, the place to be. Happy New year 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Shawn Tabor: Both

Political
"All this was happening as UNB continued to have long wait lists for its nursing program, with hundreds of students being turned away each year.

Upon learning the 2005 agreement was being done away with, Campbell warns that nursing seats will decline in the fall.
Enrolment fell again this fall at the University of New Brunswick in the bachelor of nursing program, despite hundreds of people applying. (CBC)

Enrolment of first year nursing students fell to 136 in September 2019, the lowest number in more than a decade, and some 20 students fewer than last year."

Business
"Earlier this month, the province's auditor general came down on the 2005 agreement, questioning why $96 millions in incentives had been handed out to universities, without the promised increase in the number of nursing students.

CBC News reached out to both UNB and U of M for an interview, but they did not make anyone available."

Lou Bell

Patheticism at it's finest ! Reeks of ACOA ! Give lots of money to a business who DOES NOTHING to meet the goals set, and a Government Department that is TOO LAZY to follow through with checks and balances to assure the parameters are being followed !!!!!!!!!! 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you got the government you deserve N'esy Pas?

John Montgomery

Give nurses a deal on school for a guarantee that they will stay in the province.

Fred Brewer

Reply to @John Montgomery: They are already getting a deal but this general idea is what makes the most sense. The NB taxpayer is heavily subsidizing nurses training and then after graduation most of the nurses leave NB. Nurses who benefit from a taxpayer subsidy should be required to practice in NB for a minimum of 5 years.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Methinks they paid their tuition and got their degree In a free world they should practice their profession anywhere they wish just like all the foreign students who get their degrees here N'esy Pas?

Kyle Woodman 

Maybe Higgs should just ask his nurse daughters why they abandoned ship after graduation. Could have something to do with wages. He probably told them to leave because they would never make a go of it here.

Lou Bell

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Your point ?? Or just " vacant musings" with no substance. Methinks the latter !!\

Kyle Woodman 

Reply to @Lou Bell: these are facts I'm relaying.\

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you are just a bitter spin doctor who works within the health care system N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Well put

Paul Bourgoin

Well Government can find subsidies money for New Brunswick Industries who also are the first in line receiving tax breaks and grants. These same employers eliminate jobs working short handed or replace the workers with subsidized mechanization thus eliminating jobs then they bank their profits in off shore banks not leaving much cash for New Brunswickers who pay their taxes and we wonder why our hospitals are qualified labor short handed !.\

Sergio LandZ 

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Friggen right paul that's so true!

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: At least you have a Medicare Card

 

Year of managing clashing ministers teaches Higgs what a headache he used to be

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Methinks Higgy knows that the Irving Clan hates it when they are mentioned in a media they do not control N'esy Pas? 

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Too Too Funny Indeed Methinks folks should Google the following to understand why I am laughing N'esy Pas?

Mr Higgs and Dominic Cardy are trying to learn how to herd cats 


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Year of managing clashing ministers teaches Higgs what a headache he used to be

Nothing wrong with passion, says premier

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Dec 31, 2019 6:00 AM AT



New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs says he was 'a bit of a difficult case' for former premier David Alward. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

Premier Blaine Higgs says being forced to juggle the "passions" of a diverse group of ministers in 2019 helped him realize how much of a headache he once must have been to his former boss, former premier David Alward.

Though he wouldn't elaborate, Higgs acknowledged during a year-end interview that two key ministers did not see eye-to-eye on mandatory vaccinations for schoolchildren, one of the most contentious government initiatives of the year.

"We do have a diverse group," he said. "We have a passionate bunch, and there's nothing wrong with passion, whether it be the vaccines, or other particular interests or ideas."

In August, Justice Minister Andrea Anderson-Mason said she wasn't sure how she'd vote on a bill to eliminate religious and philosophical exemptions for vaccinations.

Education Minister Dominic Cardy said any minister who couldn't support a government bill should quit, though Higgs later said he'd allow a free vote.

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The premier said the apparent split was an example of two ministers forcefully pushing their views — just as he did when he complained publicly about runaway government spending when he was finance minister under Alward from 2010 to 2014.

"I now have more of an appreciation for David Alward and what he went through, because I was like them," he said. "I was a bit of a difficult case."

As minister of finance, Higgs frequently sounded off about his fellow Progressive Conservatives pressuring him to let them spend more taxpayer dollars.

In 2012 he pointedly refused to publicly support Alward's appointment of PC MLA Margaret-Ann Blaney as CEO of a Crown corporation.

His candid comments rankled Alward and his advisers "on more than one occasion," Higgs now says.
"But it wasn't from lack of passion, it was from excessive passion. It was from a drive to get the job done and a drive to make a difference."


Now that he can see as premier how nettlesome he could be back then, he has more patience with his own ministers when they stir the pot.

I know that they're pushing to do what they believe is right. At the end of the day we have to balance that with the greater good and the greater consensus, and that's my job.

- Blaine Higgs, premier

"I was always pushing the envelope and always trying to change behaviour, and so when I have folks do that, and they threaten to do this or that or the other thing, I kind of take it with a grain of salt," he said.

"I know that they're passionate. I know that they're pushing to do what they believe is right. At the end of the day we have to balance that with the greater good and the greater consensus, and that's my job."

To be debated in new year

The dynamic between Cardy and Anderson-Mason continued into the fall, when Cardy introduced a new version of the vaccination bill that includes the notwithstanding clause from the Charter of Rights.

That allows the bill to withstand a court challenge on grounds of religious discrimination.

Higgs said at the time that the notwithstanding clause was included at the urging of lawyers in Anderson-Mason's department who said the bill would be unconstitutional without it.

But Cardy told reporters that if opposition parties teamed up to remove the clause, he'd still be willing to vote for the bill, which will be debated in the new year.

$1M bridge repair to 'bridge the gap'

Opposition Liberals argued earlier this month that Robert Gauvin, the deputy premier, was another source of internal dissent. They said Higgs allowed Gauvin to announce $1 million to repair a key bridge in his riding as a way of healing a rift.

"It's more like a million dollars to bridge the gap between the premier and the deputy premier," Liberal MLA Benoît Bourque said on Dec. 13.

The 60-year-old bridge between Shippagan and Lameque, which includes a drawbridge, is the only link between the mainland Acadian Peninsula and two islands where more than 2,000 people live.


Asked why the only specific project announced in the capital budget on Dec. 10 was $1 million to begin upgrading the bridge between Shippagan and Lameque in his riding, Deputy Premier Robert Gauvin told reporters, 'Maybe I'm special.' (Ed Hunter/CBC)

It has experienced mechanical problems that Gauvin called a safety hazard when he announced the funding Dec. 10, the same day as the capital budget and one day before other projects in the budget were revealed.

In late 2018, Gauvin threatened to quit cabinet over the handling of language requirements for ambulance paramedics. But Higgs brushed off suggestions Gauvin had to be soothed again this year.

Higgs said he was firm with ministers that no individual projects would be identified in the capital budget speech itself, but "Robert was keen to have that following the budget speech. … He wanted the opportunity to be first to the plate."

So he decided "it's fine, there's no problem, there's nothing to hide, it was all coming out [the next day]," Higgs said.

Improved rapport with Alliance

Besides managing his own cabinet and caucus, Higgs also had to negotiate with three other political party leaders in the legislature to keep his minority government alive and get legislation passed.

Usually it's the People's Alliance that backs PC budgets and bills, and Higgs said his rapport with Alliance Leader Kris Austin is even better than a year ago.

"The ability for us to work together and the recognition or respect for each other has grown over the year," he said, calling Austin "very thoughtful and rational."

"If I had a choice I would rather be in a majority for sure. But if you don't have a choice and you dance with the partner that put you there. There's an obligation on both parts to make it work. I feel we've been trying to do that and they have too."



Higgs said he believes People’s Alliance Leader Kris Austin has been making an effort too. (CBC)

A year ago Higgs said he hoped to co-operate more with the Liberals and the Greens in 2019, but he said that hasn't been possible.

He blames the Liberals for avoiding co-operation because their goal is to get back in power, and in the Greens' case, "the difficulty at that end is the elements of the agenda are all or nothing."

Higgs said he hopes three recent moves would allow for more co-operation with Green Leader David Coon: the creation of a standing committee on climate change, the setting aside of more public forest for conservation, and the freezing of how much wood can be cut by major industrial companies on Crown land.

"I would think that he'd see all that as moving in a direction that brings us closer together in our alignment," he said. "But I try to bridge across a big spectrum, and I feel like the discussion I generally have with Mr. Coon can be quite narrowly focused."

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David Raymond Amos
"A year ago Higgs said he hoped to co-operate more with the Liberals and the Greens in 2019, but he said that hasn't been possible."

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David Raymond Amos"In late 2018, Gauvin threatened to quit cabinet over the handling of language requirements for ambulance paramedics. But Higgs brushed off suggestions Gauvin had to be soothed again this year."

Yea Right 
















David Raymond Amos
Too Too Funny Indeed Methinks folks should Google the following to understand why I am laughing N'esy Pas?

Mr Higgs and Dominic Cardy are trying to learn how to herd cats

"Though he wouldn't elaborate, Higgs acknowledged during a year-end interview that two key ministers did not see eye-to-eye on mandatory vaccinations for schoolchildren, one of the most contentious government initiatives of the year.

"We do have a diverse group," he said. "We have a passionate bunch, and there's nothing wrong with passion, whether it be the vaccines, or other particular interests or ideas."

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Surely you are used to the CBC putting lipstick on a pig by now David?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you must understand what I am doing at the circus by now N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos
"Usually it's the People's Alliance that backs PC budgets and bills, and Higgs said his rapport with Alliance Leader Kris Austin is even better than a year ago."

Methinks much to the chagrin of the SANB the rapportt will continue as long as Higgy can keep the 3 PANB stooges fat, dumb and Happy Happy Happy N'esy Pas?


Lou Bell 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: How many total votes have you accumulated again in ALL the elections you have participated in again ? Would it be at 300 yet ?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Survey says???

Matt Steele
Politics is a rough game for sure , but Higgs certainly appears to be doing the right things for the right reasons . It wouldn't be surprising if N.B.ers will be heading to the polls in the spring as former Liberal Premier Brian Gallant's out of control spending left N.B. in a desperate and unstable state ; and Higgs may need a majority govt. in order to make the hard decisions , and get the province back on track


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Matt Steele: Dream on

David Peters
"Education Minister Dominic Cardy said any minister who couldn't support a government bill should quit, though Higgs later said he'd allow a free vote."

Cardy could be asked to resign just for saying that, imo.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @David Peters: Cry me a river

Joe Rootliek
Higgs never fixed the hospital or seniors care home problems- Shortages on the floors, not enough nursing seats, when is this guy going to if not fix at least make the health care nursing shortage go away even a little bit.

And the Liberals did not do any better. Hospitals need nurses, and the ones out on LTD, should be replaced by a larger labor pool, if needed- The Nurses Union should get together with the government and try to find common ground on getting better patient care, which New Brunswickers demand. A larger labor pool, more flexible, better trained, casuals, to replace LTD workers full time if necessary or part time, on a dime ( to save overtime costs as well, and nurse burn out)


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Joe Rootliek: I know I am being rather redundant but methinks its only proper Higgy and his cohorts go into the New Year still battling greedy people within the Health Care system N'esy Pas?

Joe Rootliek

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Greedy? Every single health care worker pays enough tax to pay for nearly 2 people on welfare.

This is not necessarily a money issue, for the less informed, it means "putting more workers on the floor"- More workers. Did not even mention the money issue for wages above. I am talking about Nurse burn out and Patient care issues.

I do agree, there is too much Administration (highly paid) in the Hospital, which should be cut. Put more people on the floor, and cut the Administration.

Paul Bourgoin

Reply to @Joe Rootliek: You hit the nail directly on the head! Excellent Call but no one is listening from the Hospital Administration or government : - (

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Without your so called "greedy" NB wouldn't have a tax base.
Here is a *thought*: try comparing NB "greedy" wages to federal wages for the same jobs.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Joe Rootliek:
But Joe, you read "the news", it's all the fault of those "greedy doctors" making all that money, or that is what you are supposed to believe.
It certainly has nothing to do with Mr Higgs, or the Minister of Health, get with "the program"

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you need to read my words far more closely N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Joe Rootliek: How much do you pay for your Health Care?

Chantal LeBouthi
David Alward was the worst premier ever in the history of NB

Destroying the NB Forests and wildlife and clean water for is personal interests

Lou Bell

Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Naw SANB backed pah pet Gallant was much worse . Spent like a drunken sailor and cowtowed to one group of people only.

John Smith

Reply to @Lou Bell: mackenna was pretty bad took the capitol monies nb power had saved to cover mactaquac and point lepreau refurbishments

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @john smith: and much more

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Lou Bell: Can you clarify what you mean by naw and pah?

Chantal LeBouthi
And premier Higgs is not far behind David Alward on being worst premier in NB


Lou Bell

Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Gallant / McKenna already have that wrapped up !

Gabriel Boucher

Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi:
The real question is which premier made the cut for best premier in NB. I just can't think of one that would fill up that list.

John Smith

Reply to @Gabriel Boucher: it would be pre tilley he used false flags with finnians to get us to vote for him and landed us in confederation and soon after he turned over the atlantic manufacturing hub and trade with boston and new york to just be exported to upper canada since then it has just been downhill for NB

John Smith

Reply to @john smith: oue lifespans are just unde 100 yrs so that was only 2-3 people ago it hasnt been that long surely we could reverse this travesty

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should be amazed that I agree with your opinion of McKenna but Hatfield and Lord are very close seconds in taking the cake No doubt many would agree that Gallant was just a puppet N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Alward was just a puppet

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @john smith: Well put

Terry Tibbs
How about, for the new year, "we" focus on things that really need doing around here?
We get NB Power under control.
We stop paying bonuses at NB Alcohol.
We figure out where NB Cannabis is leaking money and plug the leaks.
We turn education back into education.
We fix healthcare.
And if there is any time left over we try to focus on value added industry, rather than simply exporting our natural resources.

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I would edit your list as follows:
1) Let's privatize NB Power
2) Let's privatize NB Alcohol.
3) Let's privatize Cannabis NB.
4) The rest of your list I would agree with. Government has no business being in business and they have amply demonstrated through NB Power and Cannabis NB that they do not have the business smarts required.

Gabriel Boucher

Reply to @Fred Brewer:
I'm not so sure about NB Power being privatized. Doing so could inflate our power bills through the roof. Just look at Ontario when they privatized a large portion of their shares a few years back. People saw a major increase in their power bills soon after.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Gabriel Boucher: True However methinks "The Powers That Be" know that NB Power needs to be audited ASAP N'esy Pas?

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Gabriel Boucher: What do you think NB Power's growing debt of $5 billion will do to your power bills? NB Power was given an order to pay it down by a paltry $1 billion over 10 years and they did not even come close. Sooner or later our rates will have to be increased so that $5 billion can be paid off. Hydro Quebec was willing to pay off the entire debt and lock in power rates with any future increases subject to our very own Energy and Utilities Board. We missed a great opportunity but there are still potential buyers out there. Let's hang a FOR SALE sign on NB Power and see what kind of offers we get. No harm in trying.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Methinks its time for your nap N'esy Pas?

Lou Bell
Of course SANB backed Gauvin thinks he's special !


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks everybody but you knows that the SANB is not fond of Gauvin and that not all Acadians are fond of the SANB and their liberal buddies. In fact I believe you are the perfect example N'esy Pas?

John Smith

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: most people in nb think the lang popo is a sham francaphones are turned away just as much the ola is just a means for ministers and dep ministers to handpick their appointed employees

Kyle Woodman
Bunch of jokers.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Welcome back to the Circus

Colin Seeley

Reply to @Kyle Woodman:
Higgs would be an exception to that comment.

Bob Smith
Ahhh, Blaney. Perhaps the biggest symbol of cronyism in NB political history. As for Gauvin, he sounds like a politician who would jump to the Liberals in a heartbeat unless he gets preferential treatment. Like father, like son...he's in it to be fawned over...


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Bob Smith: YUP

Gabriel Boucher
While Mr. Higgs is sharing his feelings on social media, our healthcare system is deteriorating at a rapid pace and our economy is still doing very poorly.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Gabriel Boucher: YUP

John Smith
cardy should be a back bencher anyone that wants to claim so much jurisdiction as a education minister should have his wings clipped


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @john smith: FYI I you wish to do the clipping Google
Dominic Cardy Butter Tarts

John Smith

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: he didnt bill that did he not like its orange juice

Greg Smith
Higgs is nothing more of an Irving shill typical of these neoconservatives types. All they do is cut essential services under the guise of “fiscal conservatism”, and only champion smaller government because there are fewer mouths to feed from everything they’re skimming off the top line. I’m willing to bet his favourite “ability to pay” excuse won’t come into play next time they meet between midnight and 6am to award themselves raises.


David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Greg Smith: Methinks Higgy knows that the Irving Clan hates it when they are mentioned in a media they do not control N'esy Pas?

Chantal LeBouthi
Something every NB poeples knows

In NB the real boss is Irving and our governance obey what ever Irving will say


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Methinks another fact is that I made certain that the Irving media are well aware of these articles about Higgy byway of Twitter, email and my blog N'esy Pas?

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Methinks Higgy and Holland should agree that if these folks are remotely sincere then they would have permitted me to debate their buddy Bruce Northrup during the last election N'esy Pas?


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Private woodlot owners want 'actual proof' their market share will increase

Market share of private woodlot owners has decreased since 1980s as mills have made use of Crown forest

Cassidy Chisholm· CBC News· Posted: Jan 02, 2020 2:52 PM AT




The New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot Owners believes an increased market share would boost the provincial economy. (Canadian Press)

Private woodlot owners are calling for legislative changes that spell out the larger market share they've been promised by the Progressive Conservative government.

The government announced last month it was freezing the amount of wood the big mills can take from publicly owned Crown land and giving woodlot owners a larger share of the market supplying the mills. The freeze would last five years.

The promise was welcomed by woodlot owners and conservationists, but both say the government needs to back it up with a change in the law.

"The proof will be in the legislative change," said Lois Corbett, the executive director of the Conservation Council of New Brunswick.

"So it is either going to be an empty gesture, lots of great talk, or it will be something that will be able to hold up in the legislative minutes and see actual proof."

Natural Resources Minister Mike Holland made the announcement on Dec. 19, saying the change would spur more economic growth.


Rick Doucett, the president of the association, said he'd like to see the woodlot owners' market share increase to 30 per cent. (CBC)

Holland wasn't explicit about the percentage of wood that private woodlots would provide to mills.
In 2015, Auditor General Kim MacPherson wrote in a report that the provincial government was not complying with a section of the Crown Lands and Forests Act.

That law says the minister of natural resources "shall ensure that private woodlots are a source of wood supply consistent with the principles of proportional supply and sustained yield."

Holland didn't say whether the changes are designed to comply with MacPherson's recommendations, but did say the government was responding to what private woodlot owners have been saying.

• Private woodlots to get larger market share to supply mills in new plan

• Regulator takes control of Sussex woodlot owners group

The president of the New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot Owners said the announcement is a step in the right direction but he wants to see it put to legislation.

"I mean our objective is obviously for private landowners to be able to sell every stick of wood that they have available into the marketplace and not be competing with public resources and that's the ultimate goal," said Rick Doucett.

Half of the province's wood is on publicly owned Crown land, which is licensed to four big companies: J.D. Irving Ltd., Fornebu Lumber, Twin Rivers Paper Company and AV Group, which is made up of AV Nackawic and AV Cell.

Doucett said private owners only have between 15 and 20 per cent of the market share right now, but he'd like to see that increased to at least 30 per cent.


Lois Corbett, the executive director of the Conservation Council of New Brunswick, said the announcement is an acknowledgement that climate change is a reality in the province. (Jon Collicott/CBC)

The market share for private owners reached 28 per cent between the 1960s and 1980s but has decreased over the decades.

"It's been an unfortunate unravelling of the original intention of the Crown Lands and Forest Act," Doucett said.

"[It] was to make sure that private wood found its way to market first, unfettered by public resource supply and over the years, that act has been eroded by amendments made, through relentless lobbying pressure by certain entities and we're trying to get this reversed."

Corbett said she supports private woodlot owners having more of a market share because it could decrease clear cutting.
 

Mike Holland, the natural resources and energy development minister, didn't specify a percentage of wood that private woodlots would provide to mills. (CBC)

"If it goes according to the minister's wishes and some of his stakeholders and public interest groups like the conservation council's wishes, it should be a good step for nature," she said.

"Because what it does is it breaks that corporate hold on one of our most valuable natural treasures — our own Crown forest."

Corbett said she'd like to see changes to the law by mid-March.

"In a weird way, I am seeing an acknowledgement that climate change is happening, that maybe we need to change the way we look at our forests — not just as a supply of North America's toilet paper but as a supply of protection of our streams and rivers and of ourselves — ultimately for our small towns and communities next to the Crown forests."

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David Raymond Amos
Methinks Lois Corbett should ask Rick Doucett what he does at his day job working for NB Power N'esy Pas?









David Raymond Amos
Methinks folks should read what the Irving media said about the private woodlot owner's concerns during the last provincial election. Anyone can Google the following words and review what was published if they are allowed behind their paywall N'esy Pas?

Sep 7, 2018 - Woodlot owners in southern New Brunswick got a chance to gril








David Raymond Amos
Methinks Rick Doucett should have a long talk with his former boss the Liberal Cabinet Minister Rick Doucett Perhaps he may run in the upcoming election in St Criox N'esy Pas?












David Raymond Amos

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Go Figure
http://16573.mc.tritondigital.com/CBC_INFORMATION_MORNING_FREDERICTON_FROM_CBC_RADIO_NEW_BRUNSWICK_HIGHLIGHTS_P/media-session/5a3bf99d-5543-4446-a38d-3e610bf10976/infomornfred-Pt6m6Kfv-20200102.mp3

https://nbwoodlotowners.ca/political-party-policy-survey-2018

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https://nbwoodlotowners.ca/political-party-policy-survey-2018

These are the same people who barred me from debating Bruce Northrup during the last election while my brother in law's law firm partner was busy doing them in.

Methinks folks should see if the Irving media will allow them to read what they published about the aforementioned debate that CBC ignored Anyone can Google the following words N'esy Pas?

Sep 7, 2018 - Woodlot owners in southern New Brunswick got a chance to grill provincial election candidates this week in a debate tailored to issues





















David Peters
Economically, there is no way private woodlot owners can profit. To select cut your property then remove/transport to the mill, monopoly controlled marketing board will only pay you half of what it cost to get it to the mill...and there is no other option, but to sell it to the monopoly at the price they set.

What's worst, however, is the resulting damage from clear-cutting and spraying.

Johnny Horton  

Reply to @David Peters:
Nobody has any inherent right to be able to sell anything, just because they want to cut wood, doesn’t mean they will.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @David Peters: Tell it to Higgy and Holland the next time you vote 
 

David Peters
Reply to @Johnny Horton:
Is that a defense of commodity price control?

The negatives to price controls are numerous, but one of the worst on this file is the effect it's having on the overall management of the forests. Ppl who are real experts, within the system, expressed concern about current practices, and, shortly afterwards, got lawyers letters from the monopoly...some simply got fired from their positions.

There are many aspects to this file, but, maybe the most important is, who is policing this kind of a tilted playing field? The ones who are actually profiting the most from it?

David Peters

Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
It appears, by the numbers of the last election, voters have done just that. Could be, too, that status quo just isn't sustainable.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @David Peters: Imagine if some Independents found a few seats within the old maison after the next provincial election. Methinks just one getting elected in St Croix would make a serious change in the status quo in a heartbeat N'esy Pas?

Travis Micheal Davis
Community-based management of crown forests should be the norm. As it is now, the mill owners manage the public resource for fibre. Communities could manage for whatever value they desire. Fibre being but I’ve value.

The fox guarding the henhouse is so 1980’s.

Johnny Horton 

Reply to @Travis Micheal Davis:
Or maybe there shouldn’t be any harvesting on crown lands.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Travis Micheal Davis: It worked in the 80s and it still works today much to the chagrin of many hens

Paul Bourgoin
Private woodlot owners want 'actual proof' their market share will increase, the facts have and are pointing only if Private industry in New Brunswick tolerates it!

Johnny Horton

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin:
No business or group in a free market should ever demand a certain percent of market,

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: This is just more political spin that will go no where as usual

John Smith
alright yall welcome in im the crown gonna show ya a show

John Smith

Reply to @john smith: see the bounci ball bounce along while i tell ya you will get compensated for every sprig come in dont gleem to hard i got a show for u take good care of them trees ya love i promise ill be fair

John Smith

Reply to @john smith: well keep em groomed and dont assume i will get ya a deal

John Smith

Reply to @john smith: all the while ya could saw it yourself as long as you can get a stamp

John Smith

Reply to @john smith: but rest assured my friend ill let ya pay the rent just keep them taxes rollin and we will grow this nation in cement

John Smith

Reply to @john smith: dont worry friend its all for you im just a middle man ill get ya a good deal just dont squeal we trying to take a state

John Smith

Reply to @john smith: before they realised it we had the woods birds and the border moved a klick

John Smith

Reply to @john smith: almost time to take er out of the hands of the trustees eh

David Raymond Amos

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Reply to @john smith: In a nutshell they are all crooks Correct?

 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @john smith: Methinks thats an interesting sideshow for the circus N'esy Pas?

Johnny Horton
Or ya know get the government out of it (determining market shares, market boards), and let the free market determine share and who buys who’s wood.


Matt Steele 

Reply to @Johnny Horton: ......There is no free market for wood in N.B. when the big Mills and Forestry companies are practically getting their wood for free off of the Crown land leases . Why buy wood at fair market value from private woodlot owners when you can get the wood practically for free from the govt. controlled Crown lands . It started with the Frank McKenna Liberals , and has been going on ever since .

Johnny Horton

Reply to @Matt Steele:
There’s other places to sell than the big mills.

Johnny Horton

Reply to @Johnny Horton:
But it takes some work ingenuity and effort. While instead it is much easier to complain,
Here’s a little secret, in a free market a business isn’t required to buy someone’s product st because they want to sell it to them. Those ills have zero obligation to ever buy wood from any specific person or group. No matter how much any group screams otherwise,

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks the wicked forestry games began before McKenna got his big mandate but he certainly made things a lot worse Then Lord promised to reverse McKenna's evil work if elected and of course that lawyer never did N'esy Pas?

Roy Kirk
The simple market based approach would be to increase the stumpage rate on crown land so as to induce buyers to seek their wood elsewhere.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Roy Kirk: Its not rocket science

Justin Time
You can make the market share for private woodlot owners as big as you want,the price is still controlled by the big companies who get crown wood for a paltry sum.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Justin Time: YUP

You can make the market share for private woodlot owners as big as you want,the price is still controlled by the big companies who get crown wood for a paltry sum.

 

Paul Bourgoin
Forest harvesting practices in New Brunswick has exceeded the forest's capability to grow trees to support, and supply the wood needed for industry to meet the demands requested by industry based on profit levels and not demands not sound forest management. Because of this assault on available cheap Crown land wood, it is affecting our forest habitat our rivers, lakes, and streams reducing our fish and wildlife populations. There is also the use in New Brunswick of Glyphosate a banned herbicide in the United States but not in Canada!!


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Methinks you should have listened to me when I called N'esy Pas? 
 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: FYI These are the same people who barred me from debating Bruce Northrup during the last election while my brother in law's law firm partner was busy doing SNB in.



















Bill Hamilton
1)Capping the harvest level from Crown Land does not guarantee increased harvest levels from Private Freehold. (I thought the Government has guaranteed a supply of wood to the Licensees)
2) Any private wood sold to the mills will still have to be price competitive with the low cost Crown wood. (Why not make the Licensees negotiate a price for private woodlot wood before the Crown wood is made available?)
3) listening to the interview with Mr. Doucett this AM on CBC I was amazed how the only NB companies mentioned were those that have already gone out of business. No one dared mention the "I" word.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Bill Hamilton: Why didn't you mention the Irving Clan?

Johnny Horton

Reply to @Bill Hamilton:
4 Private woodlot owners should find their own markets. They have no entitlement, like any business, to have their product purchased where they wish,

David Raymond Amos
Methinks Higgy and Holland should agree that if these folks are remotely sincere then they would have permitted me to debate their buddy Bruce Northrup during the last election N'esy Pas?


Tim Biddiscombe 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: No one wants to hear from you..havent you figured that out yet N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Tim Biddiscombe: So you say EH?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks Mr VanDuzee should agree that folks should Google "Veritas Vincit" as well as "ad hominem" N'esy Pas oh ye who graduated from Fat Fred City High with his pals such as Andy Scott 2 years after me?

David Peters
Imo, it's more likely clear-cutting huge tracts of land is responsible for recent flooding events than climate change.

...but, what's not being talked about is the effect that spraying is having on wildlife, including birds, deer, moose and earthworms.

On the economic side, there is no way to defend setting prices for a commodity. The marketplace needs to sort that out.

Monopoly control needs to be broken up so that better, safer, healthier, forest practices can take place. Would also spread the wealth around more evenly.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @David Peters: Cry me a river

 


Matt Steele
Private woodlot owners should certainly be cautious . Reminds me of when Frank McKenna's Liberals took most all govt. woodlot leases away from the little guys , and gave them to the big Mill and Forestry companies .Frank McKenna was all for the big corporations when he thought he would get some personal gain out of it ; and he still returns to the govt. trough every time a Liberal govt. comes to power . It has been almost impossible for the small woodlot owner to sell their wood for fair market value when the Mills and big Forestry companies get the wood practically free from the govt. Crown lands 

Paul Bourgoin

Reply to @Matt Steele: Could it be influenced by Political Party funding and Party support?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Methinks everybody knows that the politicians are just following orders from the Irving Clan and their cohorts N'esy Pas?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/attn-david-duncan-young-i-just-met-your.html

Wednesday, 5 September 2018

ATTN David Duncan Young I just met your nasty little buddy Chris Spencer of SNB tonight

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Methinks folks should read Minister of Finance Paul Martin's report for the Corporation known as Canada to the Yankee SEC in December of 2002 N'esy Pas? 

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/moncton-hospital-overcrowded-asks.html

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Moncton Hospital overcrowded, asks people to seek alternatives

Horizon recommends calling Tele-Care, visiting a pharmacist or family doctor, or going to clinic

CBC News· Posted: Jan 04, 2020 5:42 PM AT



Horizon Health Network said the public should rethink their options for care before going to Moncton Hospital's emergency room. (CBC)

Horizon Health Network is urging people in Moncton and surrounding areas to rethink their options for care because the Moncton Hospital is overcrowded.

On Saturday, Horizon tweeted that patients looking for care should visit sowhywait.ca to determine if their symptoms are severe before going to the emergency room.

"If you're in the ER and you need to be admitted, right now they're going to have problems finding beds," said Lynn Meahan, a spokesperson for Horizon Health Network.

Options for care include calling Tele-Care by dialling 811, visiting a pharmacist or family doctor and going to an after-hours clinic.

Meahan said people could be looking at a 12-hour wait if they go to the hospital for something like a sore throat.

Beds all in use

There are 24 acute care and trauma beds in the emergency unit — all of which are occupied, said Dr. Ken Gillespie, chief of staff at the Moncton Hospital.

Gillespie said it's hard to pinpoint why the Moncton Hospital has experienced an increase in patients.
"People have been on holidays, maybe they've been putting things off a little bit," Gillespie said.

"A lot of the family doctors' offices are closed over the holidays so they don't have access to that and now they're having a deterioration in their symptoms and they want to get things looked at."

The Moncton Hospital also faced overcrowding last year when patients were taking up beds while awaiting another level of care.

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John Pokiok
Reason for this is little known issue how doctors in NB hospitals are payed for. They are paid the same weather they see 1 or 10 Patients. They need to be paid per patient and than you will see the difference. Right now they sit around nurses are flicking their phones because doctors dictate how many people they admit per hour, and people are waiting in waiting area for hours you don't believe me ask someone that works there.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @John Pokiok: They are paid per patient

David Raymond Amos
Methinks it is fairly obvious that this is not news to Higgy and his cohorts N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/georges-dumont-hospital-capacity-1.5060707




















Greg Miller
About four years ago my son had a sore throat and because of his medical history and the fact the he didn't have a doctor in Vancouver he visited a hospital emergency room. A doctor saw him about 15 minutes later -- AND APOLOGIZED FOR THE WAIT! P.S. My son moved to Vancouver recently and had no difficulty getting a family doctor.


Troy Murray

Reply to @Greg Miller: Great news

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Greg Miller: I am very grateful to have a family doctor in NB and pay for his services out of pocket even though I am entitled to Medicare just like your son is in BC. Less than a month ago I reported to emergency room of the Dr. Georges-L.-Dumont hospital in Moncton in order to have some scheduled tests of my old ticker ordered by another doctor. However the lady registering me gave me a hard time keeping my appointments because I did not have a Medicare Card and demanded that I apply for one through SNB ASAP.I told here I had been there and done that long ago. She had no answer for me when I asked what concern was it of hers as long as I paid the Vitalité Health Network bills. For the record last fall in order to run again in Fundy Royal I had to register with Elections Canada with the address printed on my meds because of SNB's deliberately incompetent behaviour. Go figure why I am angry with the malicious actions of my political foes against me.

Bob Smith
Doesn't help when the hospital has two floors of beds dedicated to seniors awaiting placement in long term care facilities. It's a situation that has existed since before the eighties and got worse over the decades since. The politicians and hospital executives will use the familiar platitudes of "looking into the situation/evaluating the matter.." and so on but no one will try and make a dent in it. Why? No money or backbone to change the status quo...


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Bob Smith: At least all the politicians and bureaucrats who have no backbones have a Medicare Card. Ask yourself why Higgy and his cohorts won't give me mine so that I have to pay when I visit the emergency room to have my old ticker tested.

Bart JW 

Reply to @Bob Smith: So what is the solution in your opinion? More money has not worked.

Pierre Cyr 

Reply to @Bart JW: There hasnt been more money there has been cuts per capita on average per patient over age 65 who are the biggest consumers of health as the population has aged. The system is constantly being asked to do more and treat more patients with less.

Bob Smith 

Reply to @Bart JW: More money where? Building more senior homes has been way behind demand for just as long. Add that to the problem they don't have nurses hired to staff the hospitals and there's two flaws. A solution? Maybe start by financially helping families to care for their elderly loved ones at home rather than in hospitals where possible. Status quo is not working and kicking this can down the road is only making it worse.

Greg Miller 

Reply to @Bart JW: Solution? Move to another province and chose which one you go to carefully.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Greg Miller: How about mentioning my name to Higgy before I sue the Crown again?

Jim Cyr

Reply to @This is absolutely neanderthal. And it keeps happening over and over, throughout the province. (Or similar problems). Canadians always brag about their socialized medicine.....then crap like this happens.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Jim Cyr: Who do you blame for this nonsense?

 

Allan J Whitney
Quite a few things have disappeared down the old memory hole.
Like that document "The IMF's Structural Adjustment Programme for Canada 1994- 1995", received by the Paul Martin government, which outlines the necessity of offloading government expenditures to the private sector (privatization). They actually recommend cutting the funding to certain programs in order to CREATE THE OUTCRY for privatization.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Allan J Whitney: Methinks folks who seek the truth should read the report of Paul Martin as Minister of finance to the the Yankee SEC in December of 2002 for the Corporation known as Canada N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos

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For Foreign Governments and Political Subdivisions Thereof

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION

Washington, D.C. 20549

ANNUAL REPORT

of

CANADA

(Name of Registrant)

Date of end of last fiscal year: March 31, 2002

SECURITIES REGISTERED*

(As of the close of the fiscal year)

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and communications from the Securities and Exchange Commission:

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The information set forth below is to be furnished:

1.	In respect of each issue of securities of the registrant registered, a brief statement as to:

	(a)	The general effect of any material modifications, not previously reported, of the rights of the holders of such securities.

      No such modifications.

	(b)	The title and the material provisions of any law, decree or administrative action, not previously reported, by reason of which the security is not being serviced in accordance with the terms hereof.

      No such provisions.

	(c)	The circumstances of any other failure, not previously reported, to pay principal, interest, or any sinking fund or amortization installment.

      No such failure.

2.	A statement as of the close of the last fiscal year of the registrant giving the total outstanding of:

	(a)	Internal funded debt of the registrant. (Total to be stated in the currency of the registrant. If any internal funded debt is payable in a foreign currency, it should not be included under this paragraph (a) but under paragraph (b) of this item).

      Reference is made to pages 25-27 of Exhibit D.

	(b)	External funded debt of the registrant. (Totals to be stated in the respective currencies in which payable). No statement need be furnished as to inter-governmental debt.

      Reference is made to pages 25-27 of Exhibit D.

3.	A statement giving the title, date of issue, date of maturity, interest rate and amount outstanding, together with the currency or currencies in which payable, of each issue of funded debt of the registrant outstanding as of the close of the last fiscal year of the registrant.

      Reference is made to pages 34-47 of Exhibit D.

4.  (a)	As to each issue of securities of the registrant which is registered, there should be furnished a breakdown of the total amount outstanding, as shown in Item 3, into the following:

	(1)	Total amount held by or for the account of the registrant.

      As at December 1, 2002, the registrant held a de minimis amount.

	(2)	Total estimated amount held by nationals of the registrant (or if registrant is other than a national government, by the nationals of its national government); this estimate need be furnished only if it is practicable to do so.

      Not practicable to furnish.

	(3)	Total amount otherwise outstanding.

      Not applicable.

	(b)	If a substantial amount is set forth in answer to paragraph (a)(1) above, describe briefly the method employed by the registrant to reacquire such securities.

      Not applicable.

5.	A statement as of the close of the last fiscal year of the registrant giving the estimated total of:

	(a)	Internal floating indebtedness of the registrant. (Total to be stated in the currency of the registrant).

      Reference is made to pages 25-27 of Exhibit D.

	(b)	External floating indebtedness of the registrant. (Total to be stated in the respective currencies in which payable).

      Reference is made to pages 25-27 of Exhibit D.

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Statements of the receipts, classified by source, and of the expenditures, classified by purpose, of the registrant for each fiscal year of the registrant ended since the close of the latest fiscal year for which such information was previously reported. These statements should be so itemized as to be reasonably informative and should cover both ordinary and extraordinary receipts and expenditures; there should be indicated separately, if practicable, the amount of receipts pledged or otherwise specifically allocated to any issue registered, indicating the issue.

      Reference is made to pages 18-24 of Exhibit D.

7.  (a)	If any foreign exchange control, not previously reported, has been established by the registrant (or if the registrant is other than a national government, by its national government), briefly describe such foreign exchange control.

      No foreign exchange controls have been established by the registrant.

	(b)	If any foreign exchange control previously reported has been discontinued or materially modified, briefly describe the effect of any such action, not previously reported.

      Not applicable.

8.	Brief statements as of a date reasonably close to the date of the filing of this report (indicating such date) in respect of the note issue and gold reserves of the central bank of issue of the registrant, and of any further gold stocks held by the registrant.

      Reference is made to page 17 of Exhibit D.

9.

Statements of imports and exports of merchandise for each year ended since the close of the latest year for which such information was previously reported. Such statements should be reasonably itemized so far as practicable as to commodities and as to countries. They should be set forth in terms of value and of weight or quantity; if statistics have been established only in terms of value, such will suffice.

      Reference is made to pages 12-14 of Exhibit D.

10.

The balances of international payments of the registrant for each year ended since the close of the latest year for which such information was previously reported. The statements of such balances should conform, if possible, to the nomenclature and form used in the “Statistical Handbook of the League of Nations.” (These statements need be furnished only if the registrant has published balances of International payments.)

      Reference is made to pages 15-16 of Exhibit D.

On March 12, 1996, Canada established a program for the offering, from time to time, of its Canada Notes due nine months or more from date of issue (“Canada Notes”). During the period from December 1, 2001 through November 30, 2002, Canada did not file with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission any pricing supplements relating to the sale of Canada Notes. Consequently, the portion of Canada Notes sold or to be sold during that period in the United States or in circumstances where registration of the Canada Notes is required through November 30, 2002 was U.S.$0.

Cautionary statement for purposes of the “safe harbor” provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

This annual report, including the exhibits hereto, contains various forward-looking statements and information that are based on Canada’s belief as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to Canada. When used in this document, the words “anticipate”, “estimate”, “project”, “expect”, “should” and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Such statements are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize, or should underlying assumptions prove incorrect, actual results may vary materially from those anticipated, estimated or projected. Among the key factors that have or will have a direct bearing on Canada are the world-wide economy in general and the actual economic, social and political conditions in or affecting Canada.

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This annual report comprises:

	(a)	Pages numbered 1 to 5 consecutively.
	(b)	The following exhibits:

Exhibit A:		None
Exhibit B:		None
Exhibit C-1:		Copy of the 2001 Budget of Canada (incorporated by reference from Exhibit C-4 to Canada’s Amendment No. 3 to Form 18-K for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000)
Exhibit C-2:		Copy of the Economic and Fiscal Update October 30, 2002, Department of Finance, Canada (incorporated by reference from Exhibit C-2 to Canada’s Amendment No. 1 to Form 18-K for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001 on Form 18-K/A dated November 1, 2002)
Exhibit D:		Current Canada Description
Exhibit E:		Consent of Deputy Minister of Finance

This annual report is filed subject to the instructions for Form 18-K for Foreign Governments and Political Subdivisions Thereof.

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SIGNATURE

Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused this annual report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned, thereunto duly authorized, at Ottawa, Canada, on the 20th day of December, 2002.

		CANADA
		By:		/s/ Rob Stewart
				Rob Stewart
				Senior Chief
				Financial Markets Division
				Financial Sector Policy Branch
				Department of Finance, Canada

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EXHIBIT INDEX

Exhibit No.
Exhibit A:		None
Exhibit B:		None
Exhibit C-1:		Copy of the 2001 Budget of Canada (incorporated by reference from Exhibit C-4 to Canada’s Amendment No. 3 to Form 18-K for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000)
Exhibit C-2:		Copy of the Economic and Fiscal Update October 30, 2002, Department of Finance, Canada (incorporated by reference from Exhibit C-2 to Canada’s Amendment No. 1 to Form 18-K for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001 on Form 18-K/A dated November 1, 2002)
Exhibit D:		Current Canada Description
Exhibit E:		Consent of Deputy Minister of Finance

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Exhibit D

DESCRIPTION OF CANADA

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General Information		3
The Canadian Economy		6
External Trade		12
Balance of Payments		15
Foreign Exchange and International Reserves		17
Government Finances		18
Debt Record		28
Monetary and Banking System		29
Tables and Supplementary Information		34

Unless otherwise indicated, dollar amounts hereafter in this document are expressed in Canadian dollars. On December 16, 2002 the noon buying rate in New York City payable in Canadian dollars (“$”), as reported by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, was $1.00 = $0.6399 United States dollars (“U.S.$”). See “Foreign Exchange and International Reserves”.

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The information contained herein has been reviewed by Kevin G. Lynch, Deputy Minister of Finance, Canada and is included herein on his authority. Certain information contained in this Exhibit has been extracted or compiled from public official documents of Canada, which include statistical data subject to revision. Canada is sometimes referred to as the “Government of Canada” or the “Government” in this Exhibit.

CANADA

GENERAL INFORMATION

Area and Population

Canada is the second largest country in the world, with an area of 9,984,670 square kilometers of which about 891,163 square kilometers are covered by fresh water. The occupied farm land is about 7% and the productive forest land is about 24% of the total area. The population on July 1, 2002 was estimated to be 31.4 million. Approximately 64% of Canada’s population lives in metropolitan areas of which Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are the largest. Most of Canada’s population lives within 325 kilometers of the United States border.

Form of Government

Canada is a federal state composed of ten provinces and three territories. In 1867, the United Kingdom Parliament adopted the British North America Act, which established the Canadian federation comprised of, at that time, the Provinces of Ontario, Québec, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. Since then, six additional provinces (Manitoba, British Columbia, Prince Edward Island, Saskatchewan, Alberta and Newfoundland and Labrador), along with the Yukon Territory, the Northwest Territories and the new territory of Nunavut (which was carved out of the Northwest Territories on April 1, 1999), have become parts of Canada.

The British North America Act (which has been renamed the Constitution Act, 1867) gave the Parliament of Canada legislative power in relation to a number of matters including all matters not assigned exclusively to the legislatures of the provinces. These powers now include matters such as defense, the raising of money by any mode or system of taxation, the regulation of trade and commerce, the public debt, money and banking, interest, bills of exchange and promissory notes, navigation and shipping, extra-provincial transportation, aerial navigation and, with some exceptions, telecommunications. The provincial legislatures have exclusive jurisdiction in such areas as education, municipal institutions, property and civil rights, administration of justice, direct taxation for provincial purposes and other matters of purely provincial or local concern.

The executive power of the federal Government is vested in the Queen, represented by the Governor General, whose powers are exercised on the advice of the federal Cabinet, which is responsible to the House of Commons. The legislative branch at the federal level, Parliament, consists of the Crown, the Senate and the House of Commons. The Senate has 105 seats. There are 24 seats each for the Maritime Provinces, Québec, Ontario and Western Canada, 6 for Newfoundland and 1 each for the three territories. Senators are appointed by the Governor General on the advice of the federal Cabinet and hold office until age 75. The House of Commons has 301 members, elected by voters in single-member constituencies. The leader of the political party that gains the most seats in each general election is usually invited by the Governor General to be Prime Minister and to form the Government. The Prime Minister selects the members of the federal Cabinet from among the members of the House of Commons and the Senate (in practice almost entirely from the former). The House of Commons is elected for a period of five years, subject to earlier dissolution upon the recommendation of the Prime Minister or because of the Government’s defeat in the House of Commons on a vote of no confidence.

The most recent general election was held on November 27, 2000. As a result of that election the Liberal Party forms the Government. The distribution of seats in the House of Commons is as follows: the Liberal Party has 169 seats, the Canadian Alliance Party has 63 seats, the Bloc Québécois has 35 seats, the New Democratic Party has 14 seats and the Progressive Conservative Party has 14 seats. There are 3 independent members and 3 vacant seats.

The executive power in each province is vested in the Lieutenant Governor, appointed by the Governor General on the advice of the federal Cabinet. The Lieutenant Governor’s powers are exercised on the advice of the provincial cabinet, which is responsible to the legislative assembly. Each provincial legislature is composed of a Lieutenant Governor and a legislative assembly made up of members elected for a period of five years. The practice of selecting the provincial premier and the provincial cabinet in each province follows that described for the federal level, as does dissolution of a legislature.

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The judicial branch of government in Canada is composed of an integrated set of courts created by federal and provincial law. At the federal level there are two principal courts, the Supreme Court of Canada which is the highest appeal court in Canada and the Federal Court of Canada which, among other things, deals with federal revenue laws and claims involving the Government. Judges of the two federally constituted courts and those of the provincial superior and county courts are appointed by the Governor General on the advice of the federal Cabinet and hold office during good behavior until age 70 or 75. Judges of the magistrates courts (commonly now known as provincial courts) are appointed by the provincial government and usually hold office until age 65 or 70.

Constitutional Reform

In April 1982, Her Majesty the Queen proclaimed the Constitution Act, 1982, terminating British legislative jurisdiction over Canada’s Constitution. The Constitution Act, 1982 provides that Canada’s Constitution may be amended pursuant to an amending formula contained therein and contains the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including the linguistic rights of Canada’s two major language groups.

The government of Québec did not sign the constitutional agreement which led to the repatriation of the Canadian Constitution and the proclamation of the Constitution Act, 1982. Although Québec is legally bound by the Constitution Act, 1982, the government of Québec set out five conditions for accepting the legal legitimacy of the Act. Discussions on those principles led on April 30, 1987 at Meech Lake to a unanimous agreement by First Ministers on principles respecting each of Québec’s conditions.

A constitutional resolution to give effect to the Meech Lake Accord was adopted by Parliament and eight provinces before the deadline for ratification on June 23, 1990. In the absence of ratification by Newfoundland and Manitoba, the amendment was not adopted. In the wake of this event, the most extensive series of public consultations on constitutional matters ever to occur in Canada began through the work of both provincial and federal commissions and committees, among other things. Recommendations produced by this process were then assessed by a series of multilateral negotiations involving the federal, provincial and territorial governments and four national Aboriginal organizations, held from April to July 1992. Agreement was reached on a wide range of constitutional issues through the multilateral process which led to a First Ministers’ Conference held in Charlottetown in August 1992.

The Charlottetown Accord was an extensive package of reforms agreed upon by the federal, provincial and territorial governments and the four Aboriginal organizations. On October 26, 1992 Canadians were asked in a referendum if they agreed that the Constitution of Canada should be renewed on the basis of the Charlottetown agreement. A majority of Canadians in a majority of the provinces, including a majority in Québec and a majority of Status Indians living on reserves, declined to provide such a mandate. Consequently, governments set aside the constitutional issue and announced their intention to concentrate on social and economic initiatives that do not require constitutional change.

Québec

Since September 1994, Québec has been governed by the Parti Québécois, whose platform calls for Québec’s accession to independence. On October 30, 1995, the government of Québec held a consultative referendum under provincial law, seeking a mandate to secede from Canada and proclaim Québec’s independence, after having made a formal offer of a new economic and political partnership between Québec and the rest of Canada. The government’s proposal was rejected by a vote of 50.6% against and 49.4% in favour, with a participation rate of 93%. While all sides accepted the 1995 referendum results, the Parti Québécois has not abandoned the goal of achieving independence for Québec.

The Government of Canada and the governments of a number of provinces outside Québec have taken a series of initiatives since the 1995 referendum aimed at reinforcing Canadian unity, including non-constitutional measures (notably on provincial responsibility for labour market programs), demonstrating openness to Québecers’ aspirations, as well as making efforts to clarify the rules governing any future referendum and the possible consequences of a Québec secession.

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In September 1996, the Government of Canada referred a series of legal questions to the Supreme Court of Canada with a view to clarifying, at both domestic and international law, whether the government of Québec has the right to secede from Canada unilaterally. On August 20, 1998, the Supreme Court rendered judgment, ruling that the government of Québec cannot, under either the Constitution of Canada or international law, legally effect the unilateral secession of Québec from Canada. The Supreme Court also stated that, if a clear majority of Québecers were to clearly and unambiguously express their will to secede, all governments in Canada would then have a constitutional obligation to enter into negotiations to address the potential act of secession as well as its possible terms should, in fact, secession proceed.

On June 29, 2000, the Government of Canada enacted a law to give effect to the requirement for clarity set out in the opinion of the Supreme Court. That law requires the House of Commons to assess, prior to any future referendum on the secession of a province, whether the referendum question made clear that the province would cease to be part of Canada and become an independent country. The law further requires that, after the vote itself, the House of Commons also assess whether there appeared to be a clear majority in support of the question. Only if both these conditions were met would the Government of Canada be authorized to enter into negotiations which might lead to the constitutional amendments required to effect secession.

In September 1997, the Premiers of the nine provinces other than Québec met in Calgary to launch public consultations on a set of declaratory principles, including a recognition of the unique character of Québec society within Canada, which seek to frame the fundamental values underlying the Canadian federation. Over the winter and spring of 1998, the legislatures of all nine provinces participating in the Calgary process passed resolutions of support for the principles set out in the Calgary declaration.

On November 30, 1998, the Parti Québecois government was re-elected with a majority of seats (75 out of 125) in Québec’s National Assembly, though with a vote count of 42% of the votes cast, slightly below that received by the main opposition party, the federalist Liberal Party of Québec, which won 48 seats. A third party, the Action Démocratique du Québec, which advocates a moratorium on further referenda on secession, took 12% of the votes cast and won 1 seat.

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THE CANADIAN ECONOMY*

General

The following chart shows the distribution of real gross domestic product (“GDP”) at basic prices (1997 constant dollars) in 2001, which is indicative of the structure of the economy.

DISTRIBUTION OF REAL GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT AT BASIC PRICES(1)

Percentage Distribution in 2001(2)

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Source: Statistics Canada, Gross Domestic Product by Industry.

(1)  GDP is a measure of production originating within the geographic boundaries of Canada, regardless of whether factors of production are Canadian or non-resident owned, whereas gross national product (“GNP”) measures the value of Canada’s total production of goods and services — that is, the earnings of all Canadian owned factors of production. Quantitatively, GDP is obtained from GNP by adding investment income paid to non-residents and deducting investment income received from non-residents. GDP at basic prices represents the value added by each of the factors of production and is equivalent to GDP at market prices less indirect taxes (net), plus other production taxes (net). Moreover, these differences in GDP measures explain any perceived discrepancies in GDP growth rates in this document.

(2) May not add to 100.0% due to rounding.

(3) The agriculture, forestry, fishing, hunting, mining and oil and gas extraction sectors include a service component.

The volume of industry and sector output in the following discussion provides “constant dollar” measures of the contribution of each industry to GDP at basic prices. The share of service-producing industries in real GDP was 68.7% in 2001 while the remaining 31.3% was attributed to goods-producing industries.

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The following table shows the composition of Canada’s real GDP at basic prices (1997 constant dollars) by sector in 1987 and over the 1997-2001 period.

REAL GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT AT BASIC PRICES BY INDUSTRY

			For the years ended December 31,
			2001				2000				1999				1998				1997				1987(2)				2001				1997				1987(2)
			(millions of 1997 dollars)																								(percentage distribution)
Agriculture			$	14,617			$	15,975			$	16,437			$	15,230			$	14,016			$	12,090				1.5	%			1.7	%			1.8	%
Forestry, fishing and hunting				6,593				6,905				6,675				6,466				6,411				8,149				0.7				0.8				1.2
Mining and oil and gas extraction				37,062				36,461				33,901				34,461				33,935				25,971				3.9				4.2				3.9
Manufacturing				160,935				168,825				160,150				149,390				142,282				112,727				17.0				17.4				17.1
Construction				50,346				48,498				46,529				44,348				42,995				44,241				5.3				5.3				6.7
Utilities				27,288				27,960				26,705				26,140				26,685				23,010				2.9				3.3				3.5
Transportation and warehousing				44,531				45,265				43,306				41,036				40,337				31,112				4.7				4.9				4.7
Wholesale and retail trade				107,243				104,256				98,508				92,644				85,946				69,290				11.3				10.5				10.5
Finance, insurance, real estate and leasing				186,989				180,834				174,227				166,070				161,097				116,387				19.7				19.7				17.7
Public administration and defence				53,826				52,057				51,082				50,249				49,482				44,137				5.7				6.1				6.7
Community, business and personal services				258,678				248,390				236,044				222,929				213,622				172,959				27.3				26.2				26.3
	TOTAL (1)		$	948,108			$	935,426			$	893,564			$	848,963			$	816,808			$	658,425				100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%

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Source: Statistics Canada, Input Output Division.

(1) May not add to total due to rounding.

(2) Data does not add to total due to rebasing.

The share of service-producing industries in real GDP at basic prices increased from 65.7% in 1987 to 68.7% in 2001. The fastest growing groups in this sector have been wholesale and retail trade and finance, insurance, real estate and leasing which both grew at average annual rates of 3.3% and 3.5%, between 1987 and 2001, compared to an average annual growth rate of 2.7% for total real GDP (1997 constant dollars). The goods-producing sector constituted 31.3% of real GDP at basic prices in 2001, down from 34.2% in 1987. The decline was most evident in construction with its share declining from 6.7% to 5.3%, and in utilities, where the share fell from 3.5% to 2.9%.

Real GDP growth was 3.9% in 1998, 5.2% in 1999 and 4.6% in 2000, while manufacturing output growth exceeded total output growth over this period, increasing by 4.9% in 1998, 7.2% in 1999 and by 4.7% in 2000. Total year-over-year GDP growth slowed in 2001, increasing by 1.4%, but has rebounded in 2002 to date, increasing by 1.9%, 2.5% and 3.6% in the first, second and third quarter respectively. On a year-over-year basis, manufacturing output contracted by 4.6% in 2001, and by 1.3% in the first quarter of 2002, before rising by 1.2% and 5.0% in the second and third quarter respectively.

The construction sector was the second largest goods-producing sector in Canada in 2001. Construction activity rose by 3.3% in 1998, 4.7% in 1999, 4.2% in 2000 and 3.9% in 2001. Construction output grew 4.4% year-over-year in the first quarter of 2002, 4.7% in the second quarter and 5.5% in the third quarter.

Output from mining and oil and gas extractions increased at a rate of 1.5% in 1998. Output fell by 0.7% in 1999, rebounded by 7.8% in 2000 and moderated to 1.7% in 2001. In 2002, year-over-year growth fell by 1.1% in the first quarter, 2.9% in the second quarter and 0.6% in the third quarter.

Although the share of agricultural output in total real GDP in 2001 was 1.5%, agriculture is an important part of Canada’s economy and a significant contributor to foreign exchange earnings. Wheat is Canada’s principal agricultural crop and one of its largest export products by value. The wheat crop was 24.3 million tonnes in the 1997-98 crop year, 24.1 million tonnes in the 1998-1999 crop year, 26.9 million tonnes in the 1999-2000 crop year and 26.5 million tonnes in the 2000-2001 crop year. Total wheat production fell to 20.6 million tonnes in the 2001-2002 crop year. Statistics Canada estimates that the 2002-2003 crop year will be one of the worst growing seasons in recent history in Western Canada with wheat production estimated at only 15.5 million tonnes due to exceptionally dry conditions.

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Unless otherwise specified, all growth rates are calculated using real GDP at basic prices, 1997 chained dollars. All percentage changes are compounded at annual rates. For percentage changes over more than one year the method of computation utilizes observations for the first and final years indicated. For percentage changes over less than one year the method of calculation utilizes observations for the period stated and the previous period of the same length.

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Gross Domestic Income and Expenditure

Real GDP continued to trend upward from 1997 to 2000, growing by 4.2% in 1997, 4.1% in 1998, 5.4% in 1999, and 4.5% in 2000, while nominal GDP grew by 5.5% in 1997, 3.7% in 1998, 7.2% in 1999 and 8.6% in 2000. Real and nominal GDP growth tapered off in 2001 increasing by 1.5% and 2.6% respectively. In the first three quarters of 2002, real GDP rebounded by 2.1%, 3.1% and 4.0% respectively (year-over-year); nominal GDP growth was 0.5%, 3.4% and 6.1% respectively.

GROSS DOMESTIC INCOME AND EXPENDITURE

						First 3 quarters (10)								For the years ending December 31,
						2002				2001				2001				2000				1999				1998				1997
						(in millions of dollars)
INCOME
	Labor income (1)					$	590,485			$	567,163			$	568,864			$	545,110			$	502,726			$	475,335			$	453,073
	Corporate profits (2)						121,197				123,876				118,227				129,821				108,745				86,132				87,932
	Non-farm unincorporated business income						71,745				66,104				66,551				63,962				61,351				57,936				54,663
	Farm income						1,977				2,976				2,972				1,758				1,935				1,724				1,663
	Other net domestic income (3)						58,155				65,171				63,386				62,334				53,887				53,461				54,911
		Net domestic income					896,588				877,841				872,577				854,701				779,285				723,487				700,063
	Indirect taxes, capital consumption
		allowances and residual error					235,445				217,973				219,669				210,294				201,239				191,486				182,670
GROSS DOMESTIC INCOME						$	1,132,033			$	1,095,814			$	1,092,246			$	1,064,995			$	980,524			$	914,973			$	882,733
EXPENDITURE
	Consumer expenditure					$	645,739			$	618,723			$	620,777			$	594,089			$	560,954			$	531,169			$	510,695
	Government expenditure
		(goods & services):
	Federal (4)						45,864				42,599				43,168				41,599				38,160				35,250				34,011
	Provincial-municipal (5)						196,149				186,615				187,898				178,217				169,741				164,086				157,854
			Total government (6)				242,013				229,213				231,066				219,816				207,901				199,336				191,865
				of which current			212,763				203,111				204,492				196,004				185,317				179,317				171,756
				of which capital (7)			29,251				26,103				26,574				23,812				22,584				20,019				20,109
	Residential construction						61,508				51,080				52,154				48,566				45,917				42,497				43,519
	Business fixed investment:
		Non-residential construction					51,044				52,427				52,268				50,890				46,816				45,177				43,872
		Machinery and equipment					84,405				87,277				85,504				86,693				79,977				74,116				67,346
			Total				135,449				139,704				137,772				137,583				126,793				119,293				111,218
	Inventory accumulation:
		Business non-farm					2,151				-1,996				-4,740				8,189				4,932				5,409				9,174
		Farm					-1,311				-1,275				-1,300				-161				55				-676				-1,000
			Total				840				-3,271				-6,040				8,028				4,987				4,733				8,174
	Exports (goods & services) (8)						467,080				482,611				473,000				484,331				421,796				379,203				348,604
	Imports (goods & services) (9)						-419,417				-422,591				-416,498				-428,934				-388,157				-360,871				-331,271
	Residual error of estimate						-1,179				345				15				1,516				333				-387				-71
GROSS DOMESTIC EXPENDITURE						$	1,132,033			$	1,095,815			$	1,092,246			$	1,064,995			$	980,524			$	914,973			$	882,733
GROSS DOMESTIC EXPENDITURE IN 1997 CHAIN-FISHER DOLLARS (11)						$	1,057,402			$	1,025,802			$	1,027,523			$	1,012,335			$	968,451			$	918,910			$	882,733

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(1) Includes military pay and allowances.

(2)  Includes net interest and dividends paid to non-residents.

(3)  Includes interest, miscellaneous investment income and government business enterprise profits before taxes.

(4) Net spending (outlays minus sales) including gross capital formation and Canada Pension Plan.

(5) Net spending (outlays minus sales) including gross capital formation and Québec Pension Plan.

(6) Includes government inventories.

(7)  Includes inventory accumulations at all levels of government.

(8)   Excludes investment income received from non-residents.

(9) Excludes investment income paid to non-residents.

(10) Seasonally adjusted, annual rates.

(11)	A new formula (Chain-Fisher) is now used to estimate the level of real GDP. This new formula replaces the previous Laspeyres formula.

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Economic Developments*

Nominal GDP at market prices was about $1.1 trillion in 2001. Real output growth experienced gains of 4.2% in 1997, 4.1% in 1998, 5.4% in 1999 and 4.5% in 2000, before slowing to 1.5% in 2001. Year-over-year real GDP growth rebounded in 2002 to date, registering 2.1% in the first quarter, 3.1% in the second quarter and 4.0% in the third quarter.

Real consumer spending rose by 4.6% in 1997, 2.8% in 1998, 3.9% in 1999, 3.7% in 2000 and 2.6% in 2001. Year-over-year growth in consumer spending remained robust at 2.1% in the first quarter, 2.7% in the second quarter and 2.9% in the third quarter of 2002. The personal savings rate declined steadily between 1991 and 1997, after reaching a peak of 13.8% in 1991. In 2001, the personal savings rate was 4.6%, increasing to 5.3% in the first quarter of 2002 and 4.7% in both the second and third quarter of 2002.

Real non-residential business investment grew at its highest rate on record in 1997, rising 22.6% before slowing to 5.3% in 1998. Year-over-year growth in non-residential business investment was 7.8% in 1999, 8.2% in 2000 and fell by 1.1% in 2001. The strength in non-residential business investment over this period was largely due to strong increases in machinery and equipment investment. Year-over-year growth decreased by 5.2% in the first quarter of 2002, fell by 3.4% in the second quarter and 4.9% in the third quarter.

Housing starts have generally increased in recent years. However, the recent levels have tended to be below those reached in the 1980s. Housing starts rose to 148 thousand units in 1997, before dropping to 138 thousand units in 1998. Housing starts rebounded in 1999, registering 149 thousand units, and continued rising to 153 thousand units and 163 thousand units in 2000 and 2001 respectively. In the first three quarters of 2002, the level of housing starts expanded strongly to 204 thousand, 196 thousand and 206 units respectively.

Government spending on current goods and services contracted between 1994 and 1997 by an average of 0.9% annually. Growth was 3.2% in 1998, 1.9% in 1999, 2.3% in 2000 and 3.3% in 2001. Year-over-year growth in government spending on goods and services for 2002 was 2.5% in the first quarter, 2.0% in the second quarter and 2.2% in the third quarter.

In current dollar terms, the trade balance was $16.8 billion in 1997 and $17.4 billion in 1998 before rising rapidly to $33.1 billion in 1999, $54.7 billion in 2000 and 55.6 billion in 2001. For 2002 the surplus at annual rates on the foreign trade balance was $48.4 billion in the first quarter, $45.0 billion in the second quarter and $47.4 billion in the third quarter. (See also “Balance of Payments”.)

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Prices and Costs

The year-over-year increase in the GDP implicit price deflator declined from 1.2% in 1997, to -0.5% in 1998, rebounding to 1.7% in 1999, 3.9% in 2000 and 1.0% in 2001. Year-over-year growth in the implicit price deflator fell by 1.6% for the first quarter of 2002, rose to 0.2% in the second quarter and increased further to 2.0% in the third quarter.

The year-over-year increase in the consumer price index (“CPI”) has been moderate since 1996, with increases of 1.6% in 1997, 0.9% in 1998 and 1.7% in 1999. After remaining below 2.0% during most of the 1990’s, the year-over-year increase in the CPI registered 2.7% in 2000 and 2.6% in 2001. The increase in 2000 is largely attributable to a surge in energy prices, while the increase observed in 2001 was more broadly-based. CPI inflation was lower in the first two quarters of 2002, at 1.5% and 1.3%, respectively, and edged up to 2.3% in the third quarter.

PRICE DEVELOPMENTS

		G.D.P.				Consumer Price Index
		Implicit																												Industrial
		Chain												Total								Total Excluding								Product
For the years		Price Index												Excluding								Food &				Shelter				Price
ended December 31,		(1)				Total				Food				Food				Energy				Energy				Services				Index
		(annual percentage changes)
1997			1.2				1.6				1.6				1.6				2.4				1.6				-0.2				0.7
1998			-0.5				0.9				1.6				0.9				-4.0				1.3				0.5				0.4
1999			1.7				1.7				1.3				1.7				5.7				1.5				1.1				1.8
2000			3.9				2.7				1.4				3.1				16.2				1.5				2.1				4.3
2001			1.0				2.6				4.5				2.1				3.3				2.0				2.5				1.0
2001 Q4			-1.2				1.1				3,9				0.5				-8.9				1.7				2.1				-1.9
2002 Q1			-1.6				1.5				4.1				1.0				-5.4				1.9				1.7				-1.1
2002 Q2			0.2				1.3				2.6				1.1				-8.7				2.4				1.8				-1.5
2002 Q3			2.0				2.3				2.0				2.4				-1.6				3.0				1.8				0.3

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Source: Statistics Canada, National Income and Expenditure Accounts; Consumer Prices and Price Indexes; Industry Price Indexes.

(1) This implicit price index is based on seasonally adjusted data.

The average annual increase in new collective agreements (without cost of living clauses) involving 500 or more employees for all industries was 3.1% in 2001. Average wage gains (over the life of the contract) have increased steadily since 1996. The average settlement was 1.5% in 1997, 1.7% in 1998, 2.2% in 1999 and 2.5% in 2000 and 3.1% in 2001. Year-over-year, wage gains were 2.9% in the first quarter of 2002, 2.6% in the second quarter and 2.8% in the third quarter.

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Labor Market

The following table shows labor market characteristics for the periods indicated.

LABOR MARKET CHARACTERISTICS(1)

(thousands of persons)

		Canada												Atlantic Provinces												Québec
For the years		Labor				Employ-				Unemploy-				Labor				Employ-				Unemploy-				Labor				Employ-				Unemploy-
ended December 31,		Force				ment				ment Rate				Force				ment				ment Rate				Force				ment				ment Rate
1997			15,153				13,774				9.1				1,096				944				13.9				3,606				3,195				11.4
1998			15,418				14,140				8.3				1,115				971				12.9				3,660				3,282				10.3
1999			15,721				14,531				7.6				1,136				1,003				11.7				3,702				3,357				9.3
2000			15,999				14,910				6.8				1,152				1,023				11.2				3,753				3,438				8.4
2001			16,246				15,077				7.2				1,172				1,035				11.7				3,807				3,475				8.7
2001 Q4			16,347				15,094				7.7				1,183				1,044				11.7				3,844				3,493				9.1
2002 Q1			16,490				15,199				7.8				1,190				1,047				12.1				3,884				3,530				9.1
2002 Q2			16,605				15,339				7.6				1,193				1,059				11.2				3,930				3,602				8.3
2002 Q3			16,743				15,470				7.6				1,193				1,056				11.5				3,934				3,599				8.5

		Ontario												Prairie Provinces												British Columbia
For the years		Labor				Employ-				Unemploy-				Labor				Employ-				Unemploy-				Labor				Employ-				Unemploy-
ended December 31,		Force				ment				ment Rate				Force				ment				ment Rate				Force				ment				ment Rate
1997			5,801				5,313				8.4				2,609				2,454				6.0				2,040				1,869				8.4
1998			5,914				5,490				7.2				2,677				2,527				5.6				2,051				1,870				8.8
1999			6,071				5,688				6.3				2,734				2,576				5.8				2,079				1,906				8.3
2000			6,228				5,872				5.7				2,766				2,628				5.0				2,100				1,949				7.2
2001			6,364				5,963				6.3				2,799				2,662				4.9				2,104				1,942				7.7
2001 Q4			6,399				5,965				6.8				2,814				2,674				5.0				2,107				1,918				9.0
2002 Q1			6,454				5,996				7.1				2,837				2,691				5.2				2,125				1,936				8.9
2002 Q2			6,479				6,025				7.0				2,857				2,699				5.5				2,147				1,954				9.0
2002 Q3			6,558				6,083				7.2				2,888				2,736				5.3				2,171				1,996				8.1

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Source: Statistics Canada, The Labour Force.

(1) Unemployment levels are calculated using the difference between Labour Force and Employment for the quarters.

On a year-over-year basis, employment has increased steadily since 1993, although more so since 1997. The labor force has also grown steadily since 1993 (on a year-over-year basis). Employment rose by 0.8% in 1996, while the labor force increased by 1.0% over the same period. Employment then averaged more than two percent growth, growing by 2.3%, 2.7%, 2.8% and 2.6% respectively in 1997 to 2000, before slowing to 1.1% in 2001. Growth in the labor force was not as strong, registering growth of 1.7%, 1.8%, 2.0%, 1.8%, 1.5% in 1997 through 2001 respectively. Year-over-year employment growth in 2002 to date was 1.0% in the first quarter, 1.7% in the second quarter and 2.6% in the third quarter. Growth in the labor force was 1.9%, 2.3% and 3.1% respectively over the same period.

After its most recent peak of 11.4% in 1993, the unemployment rate has generally trended downward through 2000. The unemployment rate bottomed out at 6.8% in 2000 and rose to 7.2% in 2001. The unemployment rate reached a peak of 7.8% in the first quarter of 2002, fell to 7.6% in the second quarter and remained at this level in the third quarter.

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EXTERNAL TRADE

Canada has been successful in implementing its trade goals of freer and more open markets based on internationally-agreed rules and practices at multilateral, regional and bilateral levels.

At the multilateral level, Canada continues to be an active member of the World Trade Organization (“WTO”) and is fully participating in multilateral trade negotiations launched in Doha, Qatar in November 2001. Since the conclusion of the last round of multilateral trade negotiations in 1995, Canada has taken a number of actions to liberalize its trade regimes. Canada has reduced tariffs on a wide range of products and also expanded product coverage for duty-free access for products of least-developed countries. The WTO has served as a forum for trade negotiations, including the accession of new members, the pursuit of sectoral liberalization (such as the post-Uruguay Round WTO Ministerial Declaration on Trade in Information Technology Products — Information Technology Agreement and the Fifth Protocol to the General Agreement on Trade in Services — Financial Services Agreement), and the current Doha mandated negotiations, including non-agricultural market access negotiations. Also, Canada continues to participate fully in the ongoing agriculture and services negotiations.

At the regional level, Canada is a member of the North American Free Trade Agreement (“NAFTA”) with both the United States and Mexico, and has been active in reducing with a view to eliminating tariffs and non-tariff barriers, as well as creating disciplines on the regulation of investment, services, intellectual property, competition and the temporary entry of business persons. All originating goods between Canada and the US trade are duty free and virtually all tariffs on trade in originating goods between Canada and Mexico are to be eliminated by January 1, 2003. Canada is also one of the 34 democratic countries in the hemisphere currently engaged in negotiating the Free Trade Area of the Americas Agreement. The negotiations, launched in April 1998, hold the potential to create the world’s largest free trade area, with 800 million people and a combined gross domestic product of nearly $17 trillion. Canada is also an active participant in the broader hemispheric Summit of the Americas initiative that addresses social development, including the promotion of democracy, sustainable development, protection of the environment, human rights and poverty reduction.

At the bilateral level, since 1997, Canada has had a free trade agreement with Israel covering trade in goods. On originating goods between Canada and Chile, tariffs continue to be eliminated under the 1997 Canada-Chile Free Trade Agreement such that virtually all tariffs will be eliminated by 2003. Canada signed a free trade agreement with Costa Rica in April 2001 which was implemented in November 2002, and is engaged in free trade negotiations with the Central American Four (Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala and El Salvador) and with Singapore. Canada is also engaged in trade negotiations with the European Free Trade Association (“EFTA”) countries (Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein). As well, Canada is exploring the possibility of free trade negotiations with the Dominican Republic and five Andean nations (Columbia, Bolivia, Ecuador, Venezuela and Peru).

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Merchandise Trade

The following table sets forth the composition of Canadian trade for the periods indicated.

THE COMPOSITION OF CANADIAN MERCHANDISE TRADE

(Balance of Payments Basis)

			First 3 quarters (2)								For the years ended December 31,
			2002				2001				2001				2000				1999				1998				1997
			(in millions)
Value of Exports
	Wheat		$	2,459			$	2,703			$	3,807			$	3,609			$	3,356			$	3,642				5,052
	Other agricultural products			18,720				18,084				24,310				21,303				19,484				18,148				17,234
	Crude petroleum			12,992				12,276				15,370				19,166				11,017				7,830				10,366
	Natural gas			13,389				22,199				25,595				20,537				10,951				8,967				8,626
	Ores and metals			21,051				19,334				25,763				26,471				23,434				25,308				26,062
	Lumber			8,198				8,670				11,392				12,045				13,154				11,529				12,876
	Pulp and paper			9,539				11,417				14,645				16,504				13,440				12,898				13,254
	Other materials			51,363				54,686				70,850				70,435				59,713				55,140				50,220
	Motor vehicles			52,108				49,713				65,862				69,676				70,459				55,859				50,127
	Motor vehicle parts			21,998				20,153				26,999				28,436				26,833				22,603				19,343
	Machinery			14,665				14,388				19,231				18,790				17,059				17,491				15,371
	Other end products			69,285				73,384				96,474				103,907				84,553				75,778				64,289
	Special transactions			10,857				10,915				14,339				14,708				13,718				11,969				10,558
	TOTAL EXPORTS (1)		$	306,624			$	317,922			$	414,638			$	425,587			$	367,171			$	327,162			$	303,378
Value of Imports
	Edible products		$	15,351			$	14,193			$	19,072			$	17,390			$	16,552			$	16,093			$	14,547
	Crude petroleum			8,366				10,478				12,815				13,437				7,160				5,227				7,189
	Other crude materials			6,481				6,129				8,125				8,041				7,156				7,249				6,982
	Fabricated materials			51,800				52,966				69,444				71,091				62,412				60,113				54,508
	Motor vehicles			27,331				23,517				31,810				32,475				30,242				27,283				26,287
	Motor vehicle parts			33,304				30,783				40,735				44,956				45,692				39,506				34,539
	Machinery and equipment			78,961				86,653				112,422				122,787				108,248				101,124				91,339
	Other end products			34,423				32,141				42,927				40,109				36,999				34,576				29,766
	Special transactions			9,232				10,005				13,274				13,147				12,501				12,226				12,569
	TOTAL IMPORTS (1)		$	265,248			$	266,864			$	350,623			$	363,432			$	326,961			$	303,399			$	277,727

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Source: Statistics Canada, Canadian International Merchandise Trade.

(1) May not add to total due to rounding.

(2) Seasonally adjusted.

Canada is one of the leading trading nations of the world. Canada’s exports have always reflected the country’s high endowment in natural resources. However, Canada has been diversifying its exports over time, relying less on commodities and more on finished goods. The value of commodity exports as a share of total exports dropped from 69% in 1980 to 45.0% in the first three quarters of 2002. Over this period the increase in exports of finished goods was led by automotive and miscellaneous end products. Canada’s imports consist mostly of manufactured goods; the two main components are machinery and equipment and automotive products.

Canada and the United States are each other’s largest trading partners, reflecting the physical proximity of the two countries and their close economic and financial relationship. In 2001, trade with the United States accounted for 84.6% of the value of Canada’s merchandise exports and 72.7% of the value of Canada’s merchandise imports. According to the United States Department of Commerce, trade with Canada accounted for 22.7% of the United States’ exports and 19.1% of its imports in 2001.

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GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRIBUTION OF CANADIAN MERCHANDISE TRADE

(Balance of Payments Basis)

			First 3 quarters								For the years ending December 31,
			2002				2001				2001				2000				1999				1998				1997
Exports (1)
	United States			84.9	%			84.8	%			84.6	%			84.5	%			84.2	%			82.3	%			79.9	%
	Japan			2.3				2.3				2.3				2.5				2.7				3.0				3.9
	United Kingdom			1.5				1.6				1.6				1.6				1.6				1.6				1.5
	European Union (2)			3.7				3.8				3.8				3.8				3.8				4.3				4.4
	Other			7.6				7.5				7.7				7.6				7.7				8.8				10.2
				100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%
Imports (1)
	United States			71.9	%			72.8	%			72.7	%			73.7	%			76.3	%			77.1	%			76.1	%
	Japan			3.3				3.0				3.0				3.2				3.2				3.2				3.1
	United Kingdom			2.9				3.4				3.4				3.4				2.4				2.0				2.2
	European Union (2)			7.2				6.5				6.6				5.8				6.4				6.3				6.5
	Other			14.8				14.4				14.2				13.9				11.8				11.4				12.0
				100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%			100.0	%

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Source: Statistics Canada, Canadian International Merchandise Trade.

(1)	May not add to total due to rounding.
(2)	Excludes the United Kingdom. Includes Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Sweden.

The following table presents volume and price indices of Canada’s merchandise trade for the periods indicated.

MERCHANDISE TRADE INDICES

(Balance of Payments Basis)

			First 3 quarters								For the years ending December 31,
			2002				2001				2001				2000				1999				1998				1997
			(1997 = 100)
Indices of physical volume
	Exports			127.0				126.2				125.6				130.9				120.6				108.5				100.0
	Imports			118.9				119.6				117.9				125.4				115.1				106.1				100.0
Indices of prices
	Exports			106.1				110.6				108.8				107.1				100.3				99.4				100.0
	Imports			107.1				107.2				107.1				104.4				102.3				103.0				100.0
	Terms of trade (1)			99.1				103.2				101.6				102.6				98.0				96.5				100.0

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Source: Statistics Canada, National Income and Expenditure Accounts.

(1) Index of price of exports divided by index of price of imports multiplied by 100.

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BALANCE OF PAYMENTS

The following table presents the balance of international payments for the periods indicated.

BALANCE OF INTERNATIONAL PAYMENTS

						First 3 quarters (1)								For the years ending December 31,
						2002				2001				2001				2000				1999				1998				1997
						(in millions of dollars)
CURRENT ACCOUNT
	RECEIPTS
		Goods and services				$	349,137			$	360,657			$	471,250			$	482,731			$	420,210			$	377,385			$	347,133
			Goods				306,624				317,924				414,638				425,587				367,171				327,162				303,378
			Services				42,513				42,733				56,612				57,144				53,039				50,223				43,755
		Investment income					21,657				27,848				34,990				39,815				32,913				32,338				33,252
		Current transfers					4,968				5,167				7,024				6,097				5,644				5,054				5,029
			Current account receipts				375,762				393,672				513,264				528,643				458,767				414,777				385,415
	PAYMENTS
		Goods and services					313,921				316,284				415,617				427,997				387,152				359,948				330,346
			Goods				265,248				266,864				350,623				363,432				326,961				303,399				277,727
			Services				48,673				49,420				64,994				64,565				60,191				56,549				52,619
		Investment income					42,893				47,998				62,524				68,241				64,983				61,965				62,133
		Current transfers					3,797				3,770				5,074				4,624				4,636				4,228				4,333
			Current account payments				360,611				368,050				483,216				500,862				456,771				426,140				396,812
	BALANCE
		Goods and services					35,217				44,374				55,633				54,735				33,058				17,438				16,788
			Goods				41,377				51,060				64,016				62,155				40,210				23,763				25,652
			Services				-6,160				-6,686				-8,382				-7,421				-7,152				-6,325				-8,864
		Investment income					-21,237				-20,150				-27,534				-28,427				-32,070				-29,627				-28,882
		Current transfers					1,171				1,398				1,949				1,473				1,008				826				697
			Current account balance				15,151				25,622				30,049				27,781				1,996				-11,363				-11,397
CAPITAL AND FINANCIAL ACCOUNT
	CAPITAL ACCOUNT						4,112				4,661				5,678				5,270				5,049				4,934				7,508
	FINANCIAL ACCOUNT						-8,800				-19,864				-26,596				-26,788				-18,241				-405				8,256
	CANADIAN ASSETS, NET FLOWS
		Canadian direct investment abroad					-28,486				-47,270				-54,924				-70,545				-23,182				-50,957				-31,937
		Portfolio investment					-19,766				-32,674				-37,718				-62,274				-23,067				-22,497				-11,849
			Foreign bonds				-6,251				-2,195				-1,882				-3,958				-2,477				-7,064				-6,642
			Foreign stocks				-13,514				-30,479				-35,836				-58,316				-20,590				-15,433				-5,207
		Other investment					-2,449				6,917				-17,743				-9,610				5,540				6,292				-18,760
			Loans				-1,217				-1,201				-7,873				-5,125				2,680				12,637				-18,923
			Deposits				3,671				12,585				-1,365				3,977				10,594				-6,225				-2,898
			Official international reserves				-261				-2,225				-3,353				-5,480				-8,818				-7,452				3,389
			Other assets				-4,642				-2,240				-5,152				-2,981				1,084				7,332				-328
			Total Canadian assets, net flows				-50,702				-73,027				-110,385				-142,429				-40,710				-67,161				-62,546
	CANADIAN LIABILITIES, NET FLOWS
		Foreign direct investment in Canada					26,062				30,755				42,527				98,940				36,306				33,828				15,958
		Portfolio investment					5,357				9,660				30,868				14,025				3,255				24,779				16,181
			Canadian bonds				9,282				15,116				33,609				-22,655				2,310				10,337				6,166
			Canadian stocks				-3,783				3,718				4,608				34,973				14,063				14,311				7,645
			Canadian money market				-142				-9,175				-7,349				1,707				-13,118				130				2,369
		Other investment					10,484				12,748				10,394				2,677				-17,092				8,149				38,664
			Loans				407				154				-7,730				2,781				6,470				3,181				1,873
			Deposits				13,828				16,171				23,469				-1,069				-23,995				3,375				34,106
			Other liabilities				-3,751				-3,577				-5,345				965				433				1,593				2,685
			Total Canadian liabilities, net flows				41,903				53,162				83,789				115,641				22,468				66,757				70,803
				Total capital and financial account, net flow			-4,689				-15,204				-20,918				-21,518				-13,192				4,530				15,764
	Statistical discrepancy						-9,823				-10,695				-9,130				-6,264				11,196				6,833				-4,367

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(1) Year-to-date. Current account data are seasonally adjusted. Capital account data are not seasonally adjusted.

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Canada’s current account balance improved from a deficit of $11.4 billion in 1997 to a surplus of $30.0 billion in 2001. The current account maintained an average surplus of $20.2 billion (seasonally adjusted, annualized level) in the first three quarters of 2002. Over the period since 1997, the three main components of the current account have evolved as follows:

	(1)  The merchandise trade surplus increased from $25.7 billion in 1997 to $64.0 billion in 2001. In the first three quarters of 2002, the merchandise trade surplus averaged $55.2 billion (annualized level).
	(2)   The service account deficit improved from $8.9 billion in 1997 to $8.4 billion in 2001. The services deficit averaged $8.2 billion (annualized level) in the first three quarters of 2002.
	(3)   The deficit on net investment income payments narrowed from $28.9 billion in 1997 to $27.5 billion in 2001. The investment income deficit averaged at $28.3 billion in the first three quarters of 2002 (annualized level).

Low inflation, a depreciation of the Canadian dollar and good economic growth in the United States contributed to the increase in the merchandise trade surplus through 2001. The recent economic slowdown in the United States has hindered further increases in the first three quarters of 2002.

In 1997 and 1998, the net inflow in the capital and financial account stood at $15.8 billion and $4.5 billion respectively. Following that, Canada registered net outflows of $13.2 billion, $21.5 billion and $20.9 billion in 1999, 2000 and 2001. The net inflow in the first three quarters of 2002 averaged $6.3 billion (annualized level).

Various Canadian financial instruments were acquired by non-residents during the 1990s and early 2000s. Non-resident net purchases of Canadian bonds, stocks, and money market instruments amounted to $16.2 billion and $24.8 billion in 1997 and 1998. After dipping to $3.3 billion in 1999, purchases of Canadian financial instruments increased again to $14.0 billion in 2000 and $30.9 billion in 2001. The first three quarters of 2002 saw net purchases of Canadian bonds, stocks and money market instruments average $7.1 billion (annualized level).

Foreign direct investment in Canada rose from $16.0 billion in 1997 to $98.9 billion in 2000 before sliding to $42.5 billion in 2001. Foreign direct investment in the first three quarters of 2002 averaged at $34.7 billion (annualized level).

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FOREIGN EXCHANGE AND INTERNATIONAL RESERVES

Since May 31, 1970 the Canadian dollar has been allowed to float so that the rate of exchange is determined by conditions of supply and demand in the market. During this period, the Canadian dollar has floated between a high of 104.43 U.S. cents that occurred in April 1974 and a low of 61.79 U.S. cents in January 2002. The dollar closed 2001 at 62.78 U.S. cents. In 2002 through November 30, trading has been in a range of 61.79 to 66.54 U.S. cents; the dollar closed at 63.90 U.S. cents on November 30, 2002.

EXCHANGE RATE FOR THE CANADIAN DOLLAR

						For the years ended December 31,
		2002 through
		November 30				2001		2000		1999		1998		1997		1996		1995		1994		1993		1992
		(in U.S. cents)
High			66.54			67.11		69.84		69.35		71.23		74.93		75.26		75.33		76.42		80.65		87.71
Low			61.79			62.30		63.97		64.62		63.11		69.45		72.12		70.09		70.97		74.16		77.29

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Canada does not have foreign exchange controls. Foreign exchange operations conducted by the Bank of Canada on behalf of the Minister of Finance are directed toward the maintenance of orderly conditions in the foreign exchange market in Canada through the purchase or sale of United States dollars for Canadian dollars. The following table shows Canada’s official international reserves on the dates indicated.

CANADA’S OFFICIAL INTERNATIONAL RESERVES

						At December 31,
		At November 30,
		2002				2001				2000				1999				1998				1997				1996				1995				1994				1993				1992
		(in millions of U.S. dollars)
Total			36,501				34,248				32,424				28,646				23,427				17,969				20,578				15,227				12,475				12,776				11,909

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Canada’s official reserves at November 30, 2002 consisted of United States dollars in the amount of U.S.$18,419 million, U.S.$218 million in gold (valued at U.S.$319.05 per fine ounce), U.S.$3,265 million in the form of the reserve position in the International Monetary Fund (“IMF”), U.S.$697 million in Special Drawing Rights (“SDRs”) and U.S.$13,902 million in other convertible currencies.

Beginning in 1978 transactions relating to foreign currency debt undertaken for reserve management purposes have had an important effect on the level of official reserves. The Government maintains a U.S.$6,000 million standby credit facility with a group of foreign banks. Since August 31, 1986 no drawings have been outstanding on the standby credit facility. The ”Canada Bills” program was launched in October 1986. Under this program U.S. dollar-denominated short-term notes are issued in the United States money market. There were U.S.$1,856 million of Canada Bills outstanding on September 30, 2002. The “Canada Notes” program was launched in March 1996. Canada Notes are interest-bearing marketable notes that mature not less than nine months from their date of issue. As of September 30, 2002, there was a total of U.S.$859 million equivalent of Canada Notes outstanding. A Euro Medium Term Note program was launched in March 1997. As of September 30, 2002, there was a total of U.S.$2,062 million equivalent of Euro Medium Term Notes outstanding. As of September 30, 2002, there was a total of U.S.$11,567 million equivalent of other marketable bonds, comprised of 8 global bond issues and 5 Petro Canada bond issues assumed by the Government of Canada on February 5, 2001, on the dissolution of Petro Canada Limited.

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GOVERNMENT FINANCES

Introduction

The financial structure of the Government of Canada rests on a constitutional and statutory framework dating back to the British North America Act, 1867. That Act, which has been renamed the Constitution Act, 1867, gave constitutional foundation to the principles of financing that are basic to responsible government, while other necessary financial administrative machinery and procedures were established by subsequent legislation, most notably the Financial Administration Act. The proclamation in 1982 of the Constitution Act, 1982 terminated British legislative jurisdiction over Canada’s Constitution in accordance with an amending formula that permits amendment of the Constitution without resorting to the Parliament of the United Kingdom.

Within the confines of the Constitution, the authority of Parliament is supreme. Ultimate control of the public purse and the financial structure of the Government rests with Parliament. This is reflected in the fundamental principles that no tax shall be imposed and no money shall be spent without the authority of Parliament, and that expenditures shall be made only for the purposes authorized by Parliament.

Public money received by the Government is deposited in the Consolidated Revenue Fund of Canada. Withdrawals of public money out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund may not be made without the authority of Parliament.

The Government has two major sources of money: tax and non-tax revenues and borrowing. The main sources of revenue are personal and corporate income taxes, employment insurance premiums, and excise taxes and duties. These revenues are authorized by specific acts passed by Parliament. The other major source of money to finance Government operations is borrowing. Borrowing limits are established by acts of Parliament. The main sources of borrowing are marketable bonds, treasury bills and Retail Debt.

Parliament authorizes the disbursement of moneys out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund by means of Appropriation Acts passed on an annual basis by Parliament and based on the Main Estimates submitted by the various departments. In addition to the Appropriation Acts, authority for payments may also be found in certain statutes which authorize certain payments out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund. Expenditures for public debt charges, social security payments and transfers to other levels of government are authorized in this way. Appropriations may also be made by the Governor in Council for urgent payments. Such appropriations may be made only when Parliament is not in session, and must be laid before Parliament during the subsequent session.

Information on the Government’s planned revenues and expenditures is presented to Parliament primarily in two documents: the Budget and the Main Estimates, which are both presented in the House of Commons. The Budget, which may be delivered at any time during the fiscal year, provides the occasion on which the Minister of Finance generally brings under review the whole financial position of the Government, present and prospective, and announces the Government’s plans and proposals. The Main Estimates are tabled (i.e., introduced) once each year and outline the Parliamentary authority, either existing or required, for disbursements. Supplementary Estimates may also be tabled during the year to provide authority for spending as the need arises.

The considerations for overall resource availability and demands for new policies and programs are reconciled through the establishment of a two year Fiscal Plan reflecting Government priorities. This Fiscal Plan, which is presented with the Budget, establishes an expenditure framework, in which the Cabinet establishes priorities. This ensures that expenditure decisions are made within the context of Government priorities and do not exceed the provision for such expenditures set out in the expenditure framework. The Government also releases an Economic and Fiscal Update in the fall for pre-budget consultation purposes.

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financial activities of all departments, agencies, corporations and funds are consolidated in the Government’s financial statements, except for enterprise Crown corporations and other government business enterprises which are not dependent on the Government for financing their activities. For these corporations, the Government reports in its financial statements only the cost of its investment and an allowance for valuation which includes their annual net profits and losses. In addition, any amounts receivable from or payable to these corporations are reported.

The primary source of information on all actual financial transactions of the Government is the Public Accounts of Canada, which are required by the Financial Administration Act to be tabled in Parliament each year. The other chief accountability reports are the statements of budgetary and non-budgetary financial transactions and of the Government’s cash and debt position published monthly in The Fiscal Monitor and in the Annual Financial Report.

Fiscal Policy

The era of chronic deficits and rising debt began in 1974 when productivity and economic growth declined from the buoyant trend of prior decades. One effect of this fundamental shift that had taken place in the economy was to reduce the underlying rate of growth of tax revenues, while expenditure growth remained strong. Consequently, the divergence between expenditure and revenue trends produced an uninterrupted string of deficits until fiscal 1997-98.

The severity of the 1982 recession resulted in a sharp increase in the deficit in fiscal 1982-83, eventually peaking at $38.4 billion or 8.5% of GDP in fiscal 1984-85. During the middle to late 1980s, the Government instituted a number of measures to increase revenues and constrain the growth in expenditures. These measures, in conjunction with the sustained recovery from the 1982 recession, helped to lower the deficit by about half relative to GDP by fiscal 1990-91. Further progress was arrested by the onset of the recession in 1990, which proved to be much longer and more severe than expected. While the measures to control spending succeeded in preventing government expenditures from increasing substantially in response to the recession, the sluggish recovery and the lagged impact of the recession resulted in substantial declines in budgetary revenues. This caused the deficit to increase to $42.0 billion, or 5.8% of GDP, in fiscal 1993-94.

Since 1993, the Government’s fiscal objective has been to balance the budget. Implicit in this objective was the need to halt the rise in the debt-to-GDP ratio and to put it on a permanent downward track. The actions taken in the 1994, 1995, and 1996 budgets resulted in the elimination of that deficit in just four years. In fiscal 1997-98, a budgetary surplus of $3.8 billion was recorded for the first time in 28 years. This was followed by a surplus of $3.1 billion in fiscal 1998-99, a surplus of $12.7 billion in fiscal 1999-2000, a record surplus of $18.1 billion in fiscal 2000-01 and a surplus of $8.9 billion in fiscal 2001-02. Coupled with economic growth, the fiscal turnaround has also led to a fall in the net public debt as a share of GDP of 21.8 percentage points to 49.1% in fiscal 2001-02, from the peak of 70.9% in fiscal 1995-96. This is the sixth consecutive year in which the debt-to-GDP ratio has declined.

This turnaround in federal finances underlined the soundness of the Government’s Debt Repayment Plan — basing budget plans on two-year rolling fiscal targets, economic planning projections based on the average of the private sector economic forecasts backed by fiscal prudence and fiscal forecasts backed by a Contingency Reserve and adopting policies which have engendered economic growth and job creation. Prudence is of two types — the Contingency Reserve and economic prudence. Prudence in budget planning has meant that budgetary balance targets have been consistently bettered in each and every year. The Contingency Reserve of $3.0 billion per year provides an extra measure of back-up against adverse errors in the economic forecast. Under the Debt Repayment Plan, the Contingency Reserve, if not needed, will be used to pay down the public debt. It is not a source of funds for new policy initiatives. Economic prudence provides an extra measure of back-up to ensure that the fiscal target is met. The economic prudence grows over time.

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The budgetary deficit/surplus — the budgetary balance — is the most comprehensive measure of the Government’s financial situation as it includes liabilities incurred by the Government regardless of when the actual cash payment is made. It is largely presented on an accrual basis of accounting. However, it is only one measure of the Government’s financial position.

Another important measure is financial requirements/surplus. This measures the difference between cash coming into the Government and cash payments made for programs and public debt charges during the year. Thus financial requirements do not include any liabilities incurred by the Government during the year for which no cash payment has been made during the year. Financial surpluses have now been recorded in each of the past six fiscal years. This is in contrast to the large financial requirements observed from the mid-1970s through to the mid-1990s. As a result of the financial surpluses, the Government has retired $34.6 billion of market debt since fiscal 1996-97.

Summary Statement of Transactions

The financial transactions of the Government are classified into four main categories: budgetary, non-budgetary, foreign exchange and unmatured debt transactions. In general terms, budgetary transactions are those which enter into the calculation of the annual surplus or deficit while other transactions lead to the acquisition or disposal of financial claims or to the creation or discharge of financial obligations.

The Summary Statement of Transactions table below sets out the source and use of financial resources for the years shown.

SUMMARY STATEMENT OF TRANSACTIONS

				For the years ended March 31,
				2002				2001				2000				1999				1998
				(in millions)
BUDGETARY TRANSACTIONS
	Revenues			$	173,315			$	179,590			$	166,123			$	155,899			$	153,501
	Program expenditures				–126,673				–119,348				–111,763				–111,393				–108,753
		Operating surplus or deficit ( – )			46,642				60,242				54,360				44,506				44,748
	Public debt charges				-37,735				–42,094				–41,647				–41,394				–40,931
		Surplus or deficit ( – )			8,907				18,148				12,713				3,112				3,817
NON-BUDGETARY TRANSACTIONS
	Loans, investments and advances				–96				–2,698				–617				330				1,605
	Pensions and other accounts				–1,669				1,303				6,968				7,024				3,829
	Other transactions				–2,445				2,238				–4,498				1,025				3,478
		Net source			4,210				843				1,853				8,379				8,912
		Financial requirements ( – ) or source
		(excluding foreign exchange transactions)			4,697				18,991				14,566				11,491				12,729
FOREIGN EXCHANGE TRANSACTIONS					–1,776				–8,776				–6,826				–5,700				–2,155
TOTAL FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS ( – ) OR SOURCE					2,921				10,215				7,740				5,791				10,574
UNMATURED DEBT TRANSACTIONS					–4,132				–10,003				–4,021				–6,864				–9,561
CHANGE IN CASH BALANCE					–1,211				212				3,719				–1,073				1,013
CASH BALANCE AT END OF PERIOD (1)				$	12,026			$	13,237			$	13,025			$	9,306			$	10,379

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(1) Numbers do not add up due to rounding.

Budgetary Revenue

The Government reports revenue in the year in which it is received. Refunds are allocated to the year in which they are actually paid. Personal income taxes accounted for about 51% and corporate income taxes accounted for about 15% of tax revenue in fiscal 2001-02.

The Government announced important changes in personal and corporate income tax rates in the budget of February 28, 2000 and the Economic Statement and Budget Update of October 18, 2000.

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beginning of 1986, only for the percentage change in the CPI exceeding 3%. The February 2000 budget restored full indexation of the federal personal income tax system effective January 1, 2000. As a result, for 2002 the basic personal exemption is $7,634. Regardless of inflation, the basic personal exemption will be no less than $8,000 by 2004.

The October 2000 budget update added changes that took effect in 2001. The rates for the existing three brackets were reduced to 16%, 22% and 26%. A new fourth bracket at the 29% rate applied to taxable income in excess of $100,000, which is to rise to no less than $113,804 by 2004. For 2002 the tax thresholds, accounting for indexing, are 16% for income up to $31,676, 22% for income between $31,677 and $63,353, 26% for income between $63,354 and $102,999 and 29% for income $103,000 and higher. The 5% high-income surtax was eliminated. The education tax credit, the disability tax credit, the supplement to the disability tax credit and the caregiver and infirm dependent tax credits were all increased. By 2004, the credit for a dependent spouse or common-law partner credit will be no less than $6,800.

The 2001 budget included additions such as an apprentice vehicle mechanics tools tax deduction, a tax deduction for tuition assistance for adult basic education, the extension of the education tax credit, improved tax incentives for renewable energy and energy efficiency, promotion of sustainable woodlot management and changes to deductibility of meal costs at construction work camps.

The general federal corporate income tax rate in Canada in 1999 was 28%. The federal corporate tax rate is 21% for manufacturing and processing income and 12% for the first $200,000 of active business income earned by a Canadian-controlled private corporation. Most corporations are also subject to a federal surtax equal to 4% of their federal income tax liability (computed without reference to the small business deduction and most tax credits). The large corporations tax is 0.225% of taxable capital employed in Canada in excess of $10 million. The 4% surtax may be credited against the large corporations tax liability. An additional capital tax (effectively a minimum tax since it is creditable against basic income tax) is levied on large financial institutions.

The February 2000 budget reduced the general corporate tax rate to 27% beginning in 2001. The October 2000 budget update further reduced the rate to 25% for 2002, 23% for 2003 and 21% after 2003. The budget also reduced the rate on small business income between $200,000 and $300,000 to 21% beginning in 2001.

The 2001 budget allowed small businesses to defer for 6 months payments of corporate tax instalments for January, February and March 2002 without interest or penalties. All corporations with taxable capital that did not exceed $15 million qualified for this deferral.

Prior to the February 2000 budget, capital gains were taxed to individuals and corporations at three-quarters of the rate applicable to other income. The February 2000 budget reduced this inclusion rate to two-thirds, effective February 28, 2000. The October 2000 budget update reduced the rate further to one-half, effective October 18, 2000.

The Government imposes a broad based value-added tax, the Goods and Services Tax (“GST”), at a rate of 7%, to most goods and services. Food for home consumption, prescription drugs, residential rents, sales of existing houses, educational services and health care services are generally not subject to the GST. Excise taxes and duties are imposed on selected goods, such as tobacco, alcoholic beverages and gasoline. The Government also imposes customs duties on a wide range of goods.

In addition, the Government obtains non-tax revenues in the form of returns on investment from a number of its Crown corporations. Receipts from sales of goods and services, fees and permits are other sources of revenue.

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The following table sets forth budgetary revenue for the years shown.

DETAILED STATEMENT OF TRANSACTIONS — BUDGETARY REVENUES

			For the years ended March 31,
			2002				2001				2000				1999				1998
			(in millions)
TAX REVENUES
	Personal income tax		$	83,790			$	83,305			$	79,793			$	72,716			$	71,126
	Corporate income tax			24,013				28,212				23,170				21,575				22,496
	Employment insurance premium revenues			17,980				18,731				18,512				19,363				18,802
	Other income tax revenues			3,035				4,312				3,499				2,901				2,974
	Goods and services tax			24,909				24,990				22,790				20,684				19,461
	Customs import duties			3,018				2,807				2,105				2,359				2,766
	Other			8,711				8,319				7,991				8,356				8,633
	Total tax revenues			165,456				170,676				157,860				147,954				146,258
NON-TAX REVENUES				7,859				8,914				8,263				7,945				7,243
TOTAL BUDGETARY REVENUES			$	173,315			$	179,590			$	166,123			$	155,899			$	153,501

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Budgetary Expenditures

Budgetary expenditures encompass the cost of servicing the public debt, the operating and capital expenditures of Government departments and agencies, grants and contributions to other levels of government, organizations and individuals, and subsidies.

Transfer payments includes a range of federal social spending programs designed to enhance the quality of life of Canadians, particularly those who have modest incomes or who are disadvantaged. It includes income support — most notably for the elderly and unemployed; transfers to the provinces for health, education and social assistance; and programs for aboriginal Canadians.

The following table sets forth budgetary expenditures, including federal social spending, for the years shown.

DETAILED STATEMENT OF TRANSACTIONS — BUDGETARY EXPENDITURES

					For the years ended March 31,
					2002				2001				2000				1999				1998
					(in millions)
PROGRAM EXPENDITURES
	Transfer payments
		Old age security benefits, guaranteed income supplements and spouses’ allowances			$	25,365			$	24,256			$	23,410			$	22,781			$	22,225
		Employment insurance benefits				13,748				11,444				11,301				11,884				11,842
		Canada health and social transfer				17,300				13,500				14,891				16,018				12,421
		Fiscal arrangements				11,603				12,467				10,721				11,645				10,000
		Other transfers to governments				375				217				—				2				162
		Canada Assistance Plan				—				—				56				8				24
		Education support				—				—				—				—				5
		Alternative payments for standing programs				-2,662				–2,460				–2,425				–2,150				–2,108
		Other transfer payments				19,854				23,503				18,535				18,735				22,476
			Total transfer payments			85,583				82,927				76,489				78,923				77,047
	Crown corporations expenditures					4,082				2,903				2,953				3,497				2,548
	Other program expenditures
		Defence				10,571				9,696				10,201				8,781				8,879
		All other departments and agencies				26,437				23,822				22,120				20,192				20,279
			Total other program expenditures			37,008				33,518				32,321				28,973				29,158
	Total program expenditures					126,673				119,348				111,763				111,393				108,753
PUBLIC DEBT CHARGES						37,735				42,094				41,647				41,394				40,931
TOTAL BUDGETARY EXPENDITURES					$	164,408			$	161,442			$	153,410			$	152,787			$	149,684

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Loans, Investments and Advances

Loans, investments and advances by the Government resulted in a net requirement of funds of $96 million in fiscal 2001-02.

Pension and Other Accounts

The Government acts as an insurer and/or administrator of a number of pension funds and annuities and deposit and trust accounts. The excess of receipts over disbursements in these accounts has provided the Government with an important source of financing. The balance outstanding of these accounts amounted to $141.2 billion at March 31, 2002. The public sector pensions comprised 90% of the outstanding balance at March 31, 2002.

Canada Pension Plan.The Canada Pension Plan (the “Plan”) is a federal-provincial program for compulsory and contributory social insurance. It operates in all parts of Canada, except for Quebec which has a comparable program. The Government administers the Plan under joint control with the participating provinces. Until 1997, the Plan was financed on an essentially pay-as-you-go basis, which means that pensions and benefits were paid out of current contributions (with some interest earned by the Canada Pension Plan Investment Fund). In December 1997, the Government passed legislation to ensure that the Plan remains sustainable over the long term and to allow fuller funding. Changes included a more rapid increase in contribution rates, a new investment policy, as well as changes to calculations of, and eligibility criteria to, some benefits. Under the new investment policy which came into effect April 1, 1998, the Plan’s funds are prudently invested by an independent investment board in a diversified portfolio of securities, including equities, under generally the same rules that apply to other private and public pension funds.

Contributions are paid equally by employers and employees and self-employed workers pay the full amount. In 2002 the combined contribution rate is 9.4%. As a result of changes legislated in 1997, it will rise to 9.9% in 2003 and then remain constant at that level. As administrator, the Government’s authority to spend is limited to the Plan’s net assets of $51.9 billion at March 31, 2002 ($45.7 billion at March 31, 2001). Of these assets, $28.3 billion was invested in securities issued or guaranteed by the provinces and Canada, $14.4 billion was transferred to the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board and $6.8 billion was a direct liability of the Government.

Public Sector Pensions. The Government is responsible for defined benefit pension plans covering substantially all of its full-time employees (including the Public Service, Canadian Forces, Royal Canadian Mounted Police and certain Crown corporations) as well as federally appointed judges and Members of Parliament. Pension benefits are generally calculated by reference to highest earnings for a specific period of time. They are related to years of service and are indexed to inflation. Until March 31, 2000, separate market invested funds were not set aside to provide for payment of these pension benefits. Beginning on April 1, 2000, new employer and employee contributions to the pension plans are transferred to the Public Sector Pension Investment Board. Its goal is to achieve maximum rates of return on investments without undue risk, while respecting the requirements and financial obligations of each of the public sector pension plans. At March 31, 2002 the net liability in respect of these accounts totalled $126.9 billion. This net liability is comprised of the accrued benefit obligation determined as of March 31, 2001, which amounted to $125.9 billion, less pension plan assets of $3.2 billion and unamortized pension adjustments of $8.3 billion. In fiscal 2001-02 the net liability to the public sector pensions decreased by $2.3 billion, mainly due to the transfer of assets to the new Crown pension plans.

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Other Transactions

This category includes accounts payable, interest accrued on federal debt, cheques issued but outstanding and other miscellaneous accounts. These transactions, due to their nature, are subject to wide fluctuations. They were a requirement of $4.2 billion in fiscal 2001-02.

DETAILED STATEMENT OF TRANSACTIONS — NON-BUDGETARY TRANSACTIONS

					For the years ended March 31,
					2002				2000				1999				1998				1997
					(in millions)
	LOANS, INVESTMENTS AND ADVANCES
	Crown corporations —
		Lending institutions —
			Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation		$	—			$	—			$	—			$	395			$	460
			Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation			226				224				223				410				230
			Farm Credit Corporation			578				226				236				836				580
			Business Development Bank of Canada			—				–65				–108				–50				—
						804				385				351				1,591				1,270
		All other Crown corporations —
			Other			89				92				139				–43				–29
						89				92				139				–43				–29
	Total Crown corporations					893				477				490				1,548				1,241
	Other loans, investments and advances —
		Provincial and territorial governments				386				-963				-553				-60				-255
		National governments including developing countries				234				2				198				–476				215
		International organizations				-35				–228				41				–209				1,607
		Portfolio investments				—				—				—				—				59
		Other				-1,466				–1,239				343				–754				–118
	Total other loans, investments and advances					-881				–2,248				29				–1,499				1,508
		Allowance for valuation of assets				-108				–747				–1,136				281				–1,144
	Total loans, investments and advances					-96				–2,698				–617				330				1,605
PENSION AND OTHER ACCOUNTS
		Canada Pension Plan Account (net)				379				174				791				1,222				487
		Public sector pensions (net)				-2,264				839				5,938				4,950				3,252
		Other				216				290				239				852				90
	Total pension and other accounts					-1,669				1,303				6,968				7,024				3,829
OTHER TRANSACTIONS
		Accounts receivable				-396				213				162				–516				381
		Outstanding cheques and warrants				1,240				699				–144				827				–35
		Cash in transit				-324				–1,570				46				–902				–468
		Provincial tax collection agreements account				-1,139				–824				–1,402				1,267				–551
		Other liabilities				-1,826				3,720				–3,167				349				4,151
	Total other transactions					-2,445				2,238				–4,505				1,045				3,388
NET NON-BUDGETARY TRANSACTIONS					$	-4,210			$	843			$	1,853			$	8,379			$	8,912

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Source: Public Accounts of Canada 2002.

Foreign Exchange Transactions

Foreign exchange transactions represent all transactions in international reserves held in the Exchange Fund Account (EFA). The objectives of the EFA are to provide general foreign currency liquidity for the Government and promote orderly conditions in the foreign exchange market. The EFA contains foreign currency investments, gold holdings and assets related to Canada’s commitment to the International Monetary Fund.

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Unmatured Debt

The Government’s unmatured debt represents financial obligations resulting from the sale of marketable bonds, treasury bills, Canada Savings Bonds, Canada Premium Bonds, Canada Bills, and Canada Notes, as well as from non-marketable obligations issued to the Canada Pension Plan Investment Fund.

Borrowing is one of the two major sources of money available to the Government to finance its operations. The increase in unmatured debt payable in Canadian currency has been broadly consistent with changes in financial requirements. The changes in unmatured debt payable in foreign currency have been associated with developments in foreign exchange markets and related requirements to supplement foreign exchange reserves through foreign borrowing.

UNMATURED DEBT

(Principal Amount Outstanding)

								At March 31,
				At
				Sept. 30,
				2002				2002				2001				2000				1999				1998
				(in millions)
CANADIAN CURRENCY
	Marketable bonds				284,981				292,910				293,879			$	293,250			$	294,914			$	293,987
	Treasury bills				102,200				94,200				88,700				99,850				96,950				112,300
	Canada Savings Bonds				18,354				18,928				21,410				23,876				25,791				30,144
	Canada Premium Bonds				5,129				5,092				4,204				3,023				2,427				61
	Obligations issued to Canada Pension Plan Investment Fund				3,374				3,386				3,403				3,427				4,063				3,456
		Total Canadian currency			414,038				414,516				411,596				423,426				424,145				439,948
FOREIGN CURRENCY (1)
	Canada Bills				2,947				3,355				7,228				6,008				10,171				9,354
	Canada Notes				1,300				1,202				1,580				1,053				1,253				1,665
	Euro Medium Term Note Program				3,273				2,933				3,417				4,038				4,884				1,502
	Other marketable bonds (2)				18,358				19,629				20,488				21,317				19,581				14,590
	Standby credit facilities				—				—				—				—				—				—
		Total foreign currency			25,878				27,119				32,713				32,416				35,889				27,111
TOTAL UNMATURED DEBT				$	439,916			$	$441,635			$	444,309			$	455,842			$	460,034			$	467,059

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(1) Foreign currency debt is converted to Canadian dollars using the following closing exchange rate levels:

		At				At March 31,
		Sept. 30,
		2002				2002				2001				2000				1999				1998
		(in millions)
United States Dollar			1.5872				1.5942				1.5763				1.4494				1.5087				1.4195
British Pound			2.4894				2.2716				2.2315				2.3089				2.4366				2.3752
Danish Krone			0.2111				0.1868				0.1852				0.1861				0.2193				0.2016
Japanese Yen			0.01300				0.01202				0.01249				0.0141				0.01275				0.01066
New Zealand Dollar			0.7450				0.7026				0.6370				0.7211				0.8073				0.7837
Euro			1.5675				1.3879				1.3837				1.3263				1.6313				—
Greek Drachma			—				—				0.004070				0.004160				0.004991				—
Hong Kong Dollar			—				—				0.202254				0.186669				0.1947				—
Norwegian Krone			0.2146				0.1801				0.1718				0.1713				0.1954				—

(2)	Excludes Canada Notes and Euro Medium Term Notes. Other foreign currency marketable bonds are comprised of the following amounts (before conversion to Canadian dollars):

		At				At March 31,
		Sept. 30,
		2002				2002				2001				2000				1999				1998
		(in millions)
United States Dollars			9.312				10,312				11,000				12,500				10,500				10,000
New Zealand Dollars			500				500				500				500				500				500
Euro			2,045				2,045				2,045				2,045				2,045				—

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Marketable bonds are interest-bearing obligations available to all investors generally. In the period April 1, 2002 to September 30, 2002 the Government issued an aggregate of $20,300 million of marketable bonds in Canadian currency and redeemed $28,928 million (including $10,486 million in repurchased and cancelled bonds), for a net decrease of $8,628 million. Treasury bills are obligations issued at a discount with maturities generally of three months, six months and one year. In the period April 1, 2002 to September 30, 2002 the amount of treasury bills outstanding increased by $8,000 million. Canada Savings Bonds are offered to individual Canadian residents and differ from other bonds in that they can be redeemed prior to maturity at the option of the holder for the full face value, plus accrued interest. In the period April 1, 2002 to September 30, 2002 the amount of unmatured Canada Savings Bonds outstanding decreased by $574 million. The Canada Premium Bond is a new retail investment and savings product introduced in 1998 and replaces the Canada Registered Retirement Savings Plan Bond (“Canada RRSP Bond”). It offers a higher interest rate compared to Canada Savings Bonds and is redeemable once a year, on the anniversary of the issue date and during the 30 days thereafter without penalty. In the period April 1, 2002 to September 30, 2002 the amount of unmatured Canada Premium Bonds outstanding increased by $37 million. Obligations issued to Canada Pension Plan Investment Fund are non-marketable. Canada Bills are short-term U.S. dollar-denominated unsecured obligations issued in the U.S. money market with a term to maturity of not more than 270 days. Canada Notes are usually U.S. dollar-denominated interest-bearing marketable notes that mature not less than nine months from their date of issue. The Euro Medium-Term Notes are medium-term notes issued outside the United States and Canada. Notes issued under this program can be denominated in a range of currencies and structured to meet investor demand. The other marketable bonds are comprised of 8 global bond issues and 5 Petro Canada bond issues assumed by the Government of Canada on February 5, 2001, on the dissolution of Petro Canada Limited in U.S. dollars and other foreign currencies.

As part of the Government’s domestic interest rate swap program, outstanding fixed-rate Canadian dollar marketable bonds were converted into floating-rate Canadian dollar liabilities and as of September 30, 2002 $50 million remained outstanding. In the mid 1990’s, Canada implemented an Exchange Fund Account foreign currency swap program. Under these foreign exchange swaps, Canadian dollar liabilities are swapped into liabilities in foreign currencies, allowing Canada to raise foreign exchange reserves cost effectively. As of September 30, 2002, $13,681 million of Canadian dollars have been swapped for U.S.$9,205 million, $13,033 million of Canadian dollars have been swapped for Euro 9,206 million and $111 million Canadian dollars have been swapped for ¥8 billion.

The average rates of interest paid on the unmatured debt outstanding by instrument are set out below.

AVERAGE RATES OF INTEREST

		At March 31,
		2002				2001				2000				1999				1998
Marketable bonds (1)			6.61	%			6.98	%			7.21	%			7.51	%			7.75	%
Treasury bills			2.64				5.31				5.31				4.94				4.41
Canada Savings Bonds			3.23				5.42				5.13				4.28				3.61
Non-marketable bonds and notes (2)			10.16				10.10				10.04				9.39				10.22
Canada Bills			1.75				5.10				5.87				4.81				5.49
Foreign currency notes			2.46				4.15				4.95				4.70				5.87
Total Unmatured Debt			5.56				6.11				6.15				6.70				6.64

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(1) Excludes Canada Notes and Euro Medium-Term Notes, but includes other foreign currency marketable bonds.

(2) Includes the bonds for the Canada Pension Plan and the notes for the Canada Health and Social Transfer Supplement.

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The following table shows the scheduled repayments in respect of principal and interest on the marketable bonds and notes outstanding at September 30, 2002.

SCHEDULE OF MARKETABLE DEBT REPAYMENTS

(in millions)

		Total Principal and Interest
						Foreign
		Canadian				Currency
For years ended		Currency				Debt
December 31,		Debt(1)				(1)(2)(3)(4)
2002			12,072				210
2003			57,601				4,194
2004			57,111				2,332
2005			33,259				3,120
2006			30,874				2,022
2007-2011			114,334				10,878
2012-2016			39,789				—
2017-2021			33,458				—
2022-2026			39,173				—
2027-2031			33,957				—
2032-2036			13,082				—

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Source: Bank of Canada.

(1) Excludes the effect of interest rate swaps and cross currency swaps.

(2) Includes Canada Notes and other foreign currency marketable bonds and notes.

(3) Converted at U.S. $1.00 = $1.5872, Japanese Yen 1.00 = $0.01300, British Pound 1.00 = $2.4894, Danish Krone 1.00 = $0.2111, New Zealand $1.00 = $0.7450, Norwegian Krone 1.00 = $0.2146 and Euro 1.00 = $1.5675, the closing rates on September 30, 2002.

(4) Excludes principal and interest payments on U.S. $312,114,000 of Petro Canada bond issues assumed by the Government of Canada on February 5, 2001, on the dissolution of Petro Canada Limited.

Crown Corporations

Except for enterprise Crown corporations, which are accounted for by the cost method, all Government organizations are accounted for in the financial statements by consolidation. Only certain financial transactions between the Government and enterprise Crown corporations are recorded. All assets and liabilities of agent Crown corporations are, however, assets and liabilities of the Government.

The payment of all money borrowed by agent Crown corporations is a charge on and payable out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund. Such borrowings constitute unconditional obligations of the Government and are recorded as such in the accounts of Canada, net of borrowings expected to be repaid directly by these corporations. Borrowings to be repaid by agent enterprise Crown corporations amounted to $44,361 million as at March 31, 2002. The following table summarizes the unaudited financial information of consolidated and enterprise Crown corporations as at March 31, 2002.

FINANCIAL INFORMATION REGARDING CROWN CORPORATIONS

(in millions)

					Consolidated				Enterprise				Total
Assets
	Total assets				$	4,929			$	120,981			$	125,910
Liabilities
	Liabilities to other than Government
		Borrowings				—				53,103				53,103
		Other				1,799				50,424				52,223
						1,799				103,527				105,326
			Net assets		$	3,130			$	17,454			$	20,584
Financial interest of the Government
		Obligations to the Government			$	1,809			$	9,386			$	11,195
		Net equity of the Government				1,322				8,068				9,390
			Total financial interest		$	3,131			$	17,454			$	20,585
Contingent liabilities					$	56			$	2,651			$	2,707

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Contingent Liabilities (with Respect to Guarantees by the Government)

The contingent liabilities of the Government, with respect to guarantees by the Government as at March 31, 2002 are summarized as follows.

CONTINGENT LIABILITIES (WITH RESPECT TO NET EXPOSURE UNDER GUARANTEES)

(in millions)

Guarantees by the Government of
	Borrowings by enterprise Crown corporations which are agents of Her Majesty			$	45,175
	Borrowings by other than Crown corporations
		From agents			370
		From other than agents			3,660
		Other explicit loan guarantees			465
	Insurance programs of the Government				2,757
	Other explicit guarantees				557
		Total gross guarantees			60,914
		Less: allowance for losses			-4,076
Net exposure under guarantees				$	56,838

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Source: Public Accounts of Canada 2002.

Insurance Programs

Certain agent Crown corporations operate insurance programs. In the event that such corporations have insufficient funds to meet their obligations, the Government would provide the required financing through appropriations, either budgetary or non-budgetary.

The following table summarizes the unaudited information regarding such insurance programs as at March 31, 2002.

AGENT CROWN CORPORATIONS INSURANCE PROGRAMS

											5 year				Closing
											average				balance
			Insurance				Net				of net				of
			in force				claims (1)				claims				fund
			(in millions)
Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation			$	346,809			$	18			$	—			$	486
Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation
	Mortgage Insurance Fund			218,900				229				291				1,229
	Mortgage-Backed Securities Guarantee Fund			37,452				—				—				80
Export Development Canada
	Export insurance contracts entered into on its own behalf			12,292				21				70				457

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(1) Refers to the difference between claims and amounts received from sales of related assets and other recoveries.

DEBT RECORD

Canada has always paid the full face amount of the principal and interest on every direct obligation issued by it and every indirect obligation on which it has been required to implement its guarantee, promptly when due. During war, where such payment would have violated laws or regulations forbidding trading with the enemy, payment was made to a custodian of enemy property.

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MONETARY AND BANKING SYSTEM

Bank of Canada

The Bank of Canada (the “Bank”) was incorporated in 1934 under the Bank of Canada Act (in this sec-tion referred to as the ”Act”) as Canada’s central bank. All of the capital stock of the Bank is owned by the Government. The Act gives the Bank the responsibility for the conduct of monetary policy and confers specific powers for discharging that responsibility.

The Bank has the sole right to issue paper money for circulation in Canada. The Bank acts as the fiscal agent for the Government. As fiscal agent, the Bank is responsible for handling new borrowings, administering the outstanding debt, and making payments on behalf of the Government for interest and debt redemption. As well, the Bank advises the Government on matters relating to managing the public debt. The Bank may buy or sell various types of securities, including securities issued or guaranteed by Canada or any province, short-term securities issued by the United Kingdom, and treasury bills or other obligations of the United States. The Bank may buy and sell foreign currencies, SDRs issued by the IMF, coin, and gold and silver bullion. The Bank may open accounts with other central banks and at the Bank for International Settlements (“BIS”) as well as maintain accounts in commercial banks to facilitate the buying and selling of foreign currencies. The Bank may accept deposits from the Government or any of its corporations or agencies, any province, any chartered bank or any member of the Canadian Payments Association. The Bank may pay interest to the Government on any deposits made to the Bank and may pay interest to member institutions of the Canadian Payments Association on deposits accepted for certain specified purposes. It may also accept deposits from other central banks and official international financial organizations and may pay interest on such deposits. The Bank does not accept deposits from individuals nor does it compete with the chartered banks in the commercial banking field. The Bank is not required to maintain gold or foreign exchange reserves against its liabilities.

The Bank may, on the pledge of certain classes of securities or property, make loans or advances for periods not exceeding six months to chartered banks, and to any other members of the Canadian Payments Association that maintain deposits with the Bank. The Bank Rate is the minimum rate at which the Bank is prepared to make loans or advances. Although the Bank has the power to make loans or advances under certain conditions and for limited periods to the Government or any province, such loans are extremely rare and no such loans have been made in over 35 years.

The framework for the implementation of monetary policy by the Bank was changed considerably on two occasions during the past ten years, first as a result of the phased elimination of reserve requirements between June 1992 and July 1994, and second, with the introduction of a real-time large-value settlement system (the “Large Value Transfer System” or “LVTS”) in February 1999.

The central mechanisms through which the Bank currently implements monetary policy are the LVTS and a 50-basis-point operating band for the overnight interest rate adopted by the Bank in mid 1994. Currently, the Bank sets the level of excess settlement balances in the LVTS at a minimum of $50 million. Any participant in the LVTS with a deficit funds position should therefore be aware that there will be one or more participants with offsetting surplus positions that are potential counterparties for transactions at market rates. The Bank encourages these transactions by paying an interest rate on positive balances held overnight by LVTS participants at the lower limit of its operating band and charging an interest rate on overdraft loans to LVTS participants at the upper limit of the band (which is also the Bank Rate). Thus the overnight rate will typically stay within the operating band since participants are aware that they can earn at least the lower limit of the band on positive balances and need not pay more than the upper limit to cover shortfalls. Moreover, the Bank is prepared to enter into overnight buyback transactions at the midpoint of the operating band to reinforce its target rate. Through its influence on the interest rate for overnight funds, the Bank is able to influence other short-term interest rates, the exchange rate, aggregate demand and, ultimately, inflation.

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introduction of LVTS, this adjustment was done by means of a daily transfer of Government demand deposits between the Government’s accounts at the Bank and at the financial institutions. Since LVTS, this adjustment has been accomplished through twice-daily auctions of Government term deposits.

The Act provides for regular consultation between the Governor of the Bank and the Minister of Finance as well as for a formal procedure whereby, in the event of a disagreement between the Government and the Bank which cannot be resolved, the Government may issue a directive to the Bank as to the monetary policy that it is to follow. The directive must be in writing, in specific terms, applicable for a specified period and published forthwith. This provision in the Act makes it clear that the Government must take the ultimate responsibility for monetary policy, but the Bank is in no way relieved of its responsibility for monetary policy and its execution so long as a directive is not in effect. No directive has ever been issued.

The Payment Clearing and Settlement Act, 1996 gives the Bank formal responsibility for the regulatory oversight of major clearing and settlement systems. Specifically, the Bank will review all eligible systems and identify their potential to cause systemic risk. Systems with this potential are subject to designation under the Payment Clearing and Settlement Act, 1996. Designated systems will have to satisfy the Bank that they have appropriate risk-control mechanisms in place. The Bank may carry out examinations and, in situations where it is judged that systemic risk is being inadequately controlled, the Governor of the Bank may issue directives to a designated system.

The Payment Clearing and Settlement Act, 1996 also gives the Bank new powers to provide certain services. In particular, the Bank can provide a guarantee of settlement to the participants of designated systems.

Other Government Financial Institutions

Export Development Canada (“EDC”) was established on October 1, 1969 for the purpose of facilitating and developing trade between Canada and other countries. EDC is the successor to the Export Credits Insurance Corporation which commenced operations in 1944. Activities were originally limited to insuring Canadian exporters against nonpayments of credits extended to foreign buyers. To further enhance Canada’s growing export trade, EDC has introduced an export loans program, a foreign investment guarantees program and a surety risk protection insurance program. The Federal Business Development Bank was established in 1975 as the successor to the Industrial Development Bank which was established in 1944 as a subsidiary of the Bank of Canada. In 1995, the Federal Business Development Bank was continued as the Business Development Bank of Canada (“BDC”). The purpose of the BDC is to provide financial and management services to small and medium-sized businesses in Canada. The Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation, established in 1967, insures deposits payable in Canada and in Canadian currency at banks and other financial institutions up to $60,000 per depositor. Farm Credit Canada was established in 1959 to provide for the extension of long-term mortgage credit to farmers. The Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (formerly the Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation) was incorporated in 1945 to insure mortgage loans made by approved lenders and to make direct mortgage loans.

Chartered Banks

Canada’s banks are all federally incorporated and are regulated under the Bank Act. The Bank Act sets out the rules for the structure and operation of these institutions. It is the current practice in Canada to revise the Bank Act after intervals of approximately five years with the most recent revision taking place in 2001 (see Financial Sector Restructuring below). The Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions is the federal agency responsible for supervising banks.

Under the Bank Act, foreign banks are permitted to incorporate subsidiaries by letters patent. In June 1999, legislation was passed to allow foreign banks to establish specialized, commercially focused branches in Canada. Foreign banks can operate full service branches and lending branches. In November

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2002, the banking system consisted of 15 domestic banks, 33 foreign bank subsidiaries, 17 full-service foreign bank branches and 3 foreign bank lending branches.

Financial Sector Restructuring

On June 14, 2001, Royal Assent was given to Bill C-8, An Act to establish the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada and to amend certain Acts in relation to financial institutions. Bill C-8, which amended various federal financial sector statutes, reformed Canada’s financial services sector, which includes domestic and foreign banks, trust companies, insurance companies, credit unions and other financial institutions.

Some of the key elements contained in Bill C-8, as well as the measures being implemented by non-legislative means such as guidelines and statements of government policy that compliment the legislation, include: a new definition of widely held ownership for federal financial institutions that allows for strategic alliances and joint ventures with significant share exchanges; a new holding company regime which offers financial institutions the potential for greater structural flexibility; a bank merger review process with a formal mechanism for public input; broader access to the payments system to accommodate the entry of life insurance companies, securities dealers and money market mutual funds that meet certain criteria, including regulatory oversight and liquidity; and the creation of the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada to enforce the consumer-related provisions of the federal financial institution statutes.

Monetary Policy and Interest Rate Developments

The ultimate objective of Canadian monetary policy is to promote good overall economic performance through price stability.

In February 1991, the Government and the Bank of Canada (the “Bank”) jointly announced a series of targets for reducing total CPI inflation to the mid-point of a range of 1% to 3% by the end of 1995. This inflation-control target range has been extended a number of times. In May 2001 the 1% to 3% target range was extended to the end of 2006. Monetary policy will continue to aim at keeping future inflation at the 2% target mid-point of this range, both to maximize the likelihood that inflation stays within the target range and to increase the predictability of inflation over the longer term.

The policy instrument the Bank uses to influence monetary conditions is the overnight rate target, which is the mid-point of the Bank’s operating band for overnight financing. The Bank constantly reassesses the level of the overnight rate target necessary to achieve the inflation-control targets.

Since the Fall of 2000, the Bank has moved to fixed announcement dates for the overnight rate target to make monetary policy more effective. Fixed dates have reduced the uncertainty in financial markets associated with not knowing exactly when changes in the overnight rate target may be announced, and contributed to the improved functioning of financial markets. Fixed dates have provided a regular opportunity to emphasize the medium-term perspective of monetary policy and increased the Bank’s transparency, accountability and dialogue with the public.

On January 15 of 2002, the Bank of Canada lowered its target for the overnight interest rate by 25 basis points to 2.00%. This was the last in a series of 10 cuts the Bank made since January 2001. These reductions were aimed at keeping inflation close to the mid-point of the inflation-control target range over the medium term, and were implemented in the context of a slowdown in both external and domestic aggregate demand.

Up until August 2002, the Bank had increased its target interest rate by 25 basis points on 3 consecutive occasions, bringing the rate to 2.75%. These increases were in response to the strength of Canada’s economic recovery which began in the last quarter of 2001 and has continued in the first half of 2002.

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The Bank announced no change in the target rate at its September 4 and October 16 fixed announcement dates, citing the weakening near-term prospects for growth in the United States, increased uncertainty associated with volatility in the global financial markets and the unsettled geopolitical situation as reasons for the pause in rate hikes.

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Membership in International Economic Organizations

As of December 31, 2001, Canada’s paid-up quota in the IMF is currently SDR 6,369.2 million. On December 31, 2001 one SDR equalled Cdn $2.00147.

Canada also participates in the General Arrangements to Borrow (the ”GAB”) and the New Arrangements to Borrow (the “NAB”) which provide special financial resources to the IMF. Canada’s total commitment under the GAB and the NAB amount to SDR 1,396.0 million. As of December 31, 2001 there were no loans outstanding to the IMF under the GAB and the NAB.

Canada is also a member of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a party to the World Trade Organization and a shareholder (through the Bank of Canada) of the BIS. Canada’s participation in other international development institutions is summarized in the table below.

PARTICIPATION IN OTHER INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT INSTITUTIONS

		At December 31, 2001
		Subscription								Cumulative Contributions
										to Special
		Total				Paid-in(1)				Development Funds(2)
										(in millions of
		(in millions of								U.S. dollars
		U.S. dollars)								unless otherwise
										indicated)
International Bank for Reconstruction and Development		$	5,403.8			$	334.9				—
International Development Association (“IDA”)			—				—				C$5,761.8
International Finance Corporation			81.3				81.3				—
Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency			56.5				10.7				—
Asian Development Bank			2,324.0				162.7				1,042.5
Inter-American Development Bank			4,039.8				173.7				289.6
Caribbean Development Bank			62.7				13.7				101.8
African Development Bank			1,011.4				88.0				1,167.6
European Bank for Reconstruction and Development			828.6				149.0				—

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(1) Balance of subscription payable only in the unlikely event that there is a call on the institution’s capital.

(2) Special Development Funds provide loans to the poorest countries on highly concessional terms. Cumulative contributions reflect encashments of existing notes. Canada also has additional future obligations for notes that have been issued and not yet encashed. Payments to concessional funds have been converted from Canadian into U.S. dollars and therefore reflect end-of-year exchange rates.

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Exhibit E

CONSENT

I hereby consent to the use of my name in the Canada description attached as Exhibit D to the Form 18-K of Canada. I acknowledge that such description may from time to time be incorporated by reference into one or more Registration Statements, and in the related prospectuses, of Canada and/or one or more Crown Corporations of Canada. I consent to the use of my name in any such Registration Statements and related prospectuses in connection with the information so incorporated.

		/s/ Kevin G. Lynch
		Kevin G. Lynch
		Deputy Minister of Finance

Ottawa, Canada

December 20, 2002

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October 16, 2019

My Friend Brian Ruhe

The purest idealism is unconsciously equivalent to the deepest knowledge. —Adolf Hitler

It is better to make a mistake than to do nothing. —Adolf Hitler

     No doubt some of you have noticed that I’ve begun doing weekly Skype interviews with the notorious Brian Ruhe, the “Nazi Buddhist,” president of the Thule Society (an organization that endorses the worship of a deified Adolf Hitler), and lord and master of the Brian Ruhe show, recently censored and banned from YouTube but still available on Bitchute. In fact some of you have started reading this blog because of seeing me on Brian’s show—after all, Herr Ruhe evidently has a larger following than I do, though that’s not saying very much. So I suppose I should explain why I am associating with such a notorious fellow, what I have learned from this association, and why I now consider him to be my friend.

     Our first contact was back in 2011 or 12, and was brief and uneventful. I think in those days neither of us was fully red-pilled, so to speak, and we were more or less “normie” western Buddhists, though still rather unorthodox and weird by mainstream standards. Anyway, upon returning to the USA after many years in Asia I sent out emails to many of the teachers and Dhamma organizations in the general area (mainly the state of Washington and southern British Columbia in Canada), and in those days Brian Ruhe was a reputable, more or less mainstream Dhamma teacher. Anyway, after offering my services to any Dhamma society that was interested, Herr Ruhe wrote back saying that he was pretty much a subsistence Dhamma instructor and lacked the resources to support outside teachers, and that was that.

     Several years later, after both of us had been “radicalized” by the Information Age and the Internet, a supporter of both of us suggested to Herr Ruhe that he should interview me for his show (the Brian Ruhe show, then still on YouTube), and so he contacted me. Not only did he ask me to be on his show but he further asked me to be the spiritual director of the Thule Society, which latter honor I declined for reasons laid out in a previous post. But we did the show, and it went rather well, and so we have continued with it.

     No doubt there are some people out there who think that a Buddhist monk associating with a devout Nazi—or National Socialist, as Herr Ruhe prefers to call himself—is somehow necessarily inherently wrong and reprehensible. On the contrary, I don’t think so at all.

     Some of Brian’s views are very different from mine, with regard to politics, the heroism of Adolf Hitler, the origin, ancient history, and current state of the human race, and also with regard to Theravada Buddhism—though ironically he is more of a scriptural fundamentalist than I am, at least with regard to cosmology and his belief in the texts’ authenticity and authority in general. So although I know the texts rather better than he does, I am also more skeptical, while Brian, bless his heart, is endowed with more of the Will to Believe. (In other words, going with the terms of Buddhist philosophy, he is more faith-oriented and I am more reason-oriented.) Regarding politics, I am not a Nazi or a fascist by any sane, non-hysterical reckoning. I see myself as more or less of a classical liberal, and consider the libertarian system set up by the founding fathers of the USA to be about the best so far devised and put to the test. The farthest I would concede to the fascists would be to say that, at this stage in the game, if I were required to choose between Marxism/socialism and some form of not-particularly-violent fascism, I’d almost certainly go with the fascists. Socialism sucks, and Marxism is historically, objectively worse than Nazism or small-f fascism in general, going with such objective criteria as numbers of corpses generated by each system.

     So, although I’ve been called a Nazi sympathizer, my Nazi sympathies are very limited and conditional. I do have sympathy for Brian Ruhe though, mainly because he’s a nice guy, and a sincere one. For that matter I am willing to hold a discussion in good faith with anyone capable of a sincere and more or less courteous exchange of views. Hell, I’m even willing to have a discussion or reasoned debate with a neo-Marxist, though most of them seem too hysterical or ignorant to discuss their views rationally, especially if there is feedback from someone who disagrees with them. (Objective rationality is, after all, a tool of white patriarchal oppression.) I have been hoping to have a discussion with some advocate of politically correct Social Justice on this blog, but again, most of them are adverse to having their views challenged. But I am willing, just as Herr Ruhe also is willing.

     So, a primary reason why I do weekly Skype sessions with Brian is that he is willing to converse and exchange views in good faith, even though we don’t agree on all points. We’re not overly concerned with changing each other’s views, either. And I must say that the conversations can be interesting, for us at least. Also of course the videos have increased the readership of this blog.

     I mentioned that Brian is more orthodox than I am in his Buddhism, at least sometimes. He’s literally a devout Buddhist Nazi, or rather a devout Buddhist National Socialist—“Nazi” was originally a derogatory slur, and Herr Ruhe tends to avoid the term. (I persist in using the term “Nazi” simply because it’s shorter and easier, and National Socialists ought to be tough enough to hear words they don’t like very much. Besides, it’s used so much that it’s hardly any more of a slur than “National Socialist.” It’s sort of like the term “Pagan,” which also began as a slur but was later reclaimed, and even accepted with pride by faithful Pagans.) Anyway, with regard to Brian’s devout Buddhism, it is interesting that he was actually ordained as a Theravada Buddhist monk for several months back in the 90’s, in Thailand, I’m pretty sure. Later he was a more or less mainstream teacher of Buddhism and meditation in the general area of Vancouver BC, until he was red-pilled and then ostracized by intolerant or fearful leftists. So Brian is a Buddhist first and a Nazi second. He takes Buddhist ethics very seriously, including the stuff about compassion and nonviolence. He understands Dhamma better than do most western Buddhists, and probably practices it better as well.

     Some people might assume, and reasonably too, that a Nazi would necessarily endorse militarism and even genocide. Nope! Brian simply denies all of it. Not only does he not endorse genocide, he firmly disbelieves the very idea that Hitler’s Nazis favored or perpetrated it; all that stuff is just propagandist lies promulgated to vilify the Führer. The Nazis were the good guys, even by Buddhist standards, according to him—there was no genocide of “subhuman” races, and Hitler was a peace-loving man, an inspired visionary who preferred designing buildings to bombing them, and who was forced into WW2 against his will by establishment warmongers spurred on by globalist Jews. Thus, among other things, Brian Ruhe is a sincere Holocaust denier. (Personally, I feel that although many of the stories against Hitler are probably exaggerated to some extent—just consider the stories against Trump lately—Hitler’s notion of Lebensraum pretty much implied an eastward invasion sooner or later, and I very much doubt that the Slavs were simply going to donate their territory to him. Also, preemptively dividing up Poland with Stalin’s USSR was certainly not persuasive evidence of his peaceful intentions, and his annexation of Czechoslovakia was an arguably predatory and shitty thing to do. But I suppose the “Hitler did nothing wrong” folks have their own explanations for all of this.)

     Ironically and maybe counterintuitively, as anyone who watches his videos can see, Herr Ruhe in his actual conduct is morally superior to the hysterical leftists freaking out at him on the streets of Vancouver. Most people who walk past Brian as he peacefully holds up a sign bearing a pro-Hitler slogan (or something equally politically incorrect) just ignore him, or glance at him and continue on their way; but some people curse him to his face repeatedly, bellow at him in a state of outraged anger, hatred, and self-righteousness, and sometimes even physically assault him. No doubt they feel perfectly justified and virtuous while doing so. Brian is almost saintly in his potentially self-destructive desire to peacefully wave Nazi signs in the midst of crowds of leftist activists. It is peculiar that the lefties going hysterical at Brian are literally more intolerant and more hateful than a Nazi. Let that sink in for a moment. But not only that: I would go even farther and assert that many Social Justice leftists, possibly even most of them, are more intolerant and more hateful than a Nazi, at least this Nazi. In a recent video of Brian’s one guy actually observes that Brian Ruhe isn’t a “real” Nazi simply because he isn’t hateful enough.

     Again, I assert that I am not a Nazi or a National Socialist, or even a run of the mill fascist, and I do not agree with a lot of what Brian promulgates, even though he is a nice guy and we have some interesting conversations. A good example of ideological disagreement would be our respective attitudes towards Jewish influence on western civilization. Adolf Hitler once said,

The art of leadership…consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention….The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belong to one category.

It seems plausible to me that the Führer walked his talk in this case by using Jews as the unifying adversary. No doubt he really loathed them, but still it does seem plausible that they were also a convenient political tool for unifying the militant righteous indignation of the German people. Nevertheless, Jewish influence on western civilization is much more profound than most people realize; and anyone who reads Kevin MacDonald’s The Culture of Critique is bound to become at least a little antisemitic (which is why it’s the only academic work banned by Amazon.com). Some Jews really are behind much if not most of the pernicious social phenomena running rampant throughout the postmodern west, including multiculturalism and the various forms of Marxism. The Holocaust may very well have been exaggerated (for propaganda purposes) for all I know; and with regard to Herr Ruhe’s theories about reptilian space aliens collaborating with powerful Jews, I suppose the less said the better. It seems to me that the greatest Jewish influence on western civilization was the advent of Christianity, originally a Jewish reform movement, although relatively few Goy Rights Activists place much emphasis on that particular point.

     So, Brian and I disagree on some things and agree, more or less, on others. Considering that we are both Theravada Buddhists, there is naturally quite a lot of agreement on basic doctrines of Buddhism and Buddhist ethics, and I even happen to share some of his weird ideas derived from ancient Indian Buddhist cosmology.

     Regardless of the objective truth or falsehood of his beliefs, Brian Ruhe’s conduct is morally superior to most of the people publicly bashing Nazism, including the outrageous hypocrites virtue signaling on cable news outlets. News announcers and commentators on pretty much all of the mainstream media pose as moral guides to the masses, yet they, unlike Brian Ruhe, are certainly not operating in good faith. These people are calmly, self-righteously, and cynically attempting to destroy anyone who threatens the narrative that they are paid to disseminate (and yes, they are paid by globalist Jews), regardless of actual guilt or innocence. For me, the mainstream leftist/globalist media’s ruthless, cynical attacks on Brett Kavanaugh were the absolute last straw; the guy is a totally vanilla, nerdy Christian white rich guy who obviously has never been a sexual predator, yet almost the entire political left in the USA were declaring him a serial rapist based on nothing but unsubstantiated accusations made by leftist activists. When he became upset and indignant at such sleazy attacks these same people cynically attacked him for being emotionally unstable. Their conduct towards the Covington High School kids, or for that matter towards President Trump, have been no better. Such “moral guides” are vastly morally inferior to the likes of Brian Ruhe the “Nazi Buddhist.” If I were ever to be interviewed by someone like Morning Joe, or Cathy Newman in the UK, they would certainly not be conducting the interview in good faith as Brian does, intent upon an actual exchange of views, and I would feel contaminated by the process. Not that they’d ever want to interview me.

     As it turns out, I am one of the only monastics of Brian’s own professed religion who is willing to associate with him in public since he publicly began endorsing National Socialism. A few others are willing to communicate with him privately, but otherwise keep their distance. This is understandable, but whether this avoidance of Brian is based on missionary diplomacy, cowardice, or something else would depend on their own mental states, which I surely don’t know. Anyway, I’m no Jesus of course, but even the Christian Messiah was criticized during his lifetime for hanging out with prostitutes, tax collectors, and other unsavory riffraff.

     And so, to sum it all up, Herr Brian Ruhe has got some very weird ideas (some of which may be true for all I know), but he’s a genuinely good guy, as far as I can tell. I suppose his girlfriend could describe a side of him that I haven’t seen, but then again she’s his willing consort and presumably loves him—but of course that’s none of our business.

     Thus far I have enjoyed our Skype interviews, and I don’t give a damn about political correctness hysteria, so I’ll keep going with them for the foreseeable future. Brian’s Bitchute channel is here. The website for the Thule Society is here.

(insert 30s-era German military music here)

P.S. At Brian's request I am including here a short video of Brian characteristically offering up a Nazi salute in the midst of a crowd of protesting lefties, while fortunately being protected by a few police officers: 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Fg7mLXklitO8/?list=jAwYD9IBVY8E&randomize=false

 
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Comments

1. Zacharia October 17, 2019 at 8:27 AM

   Very very nice and thoughtful post, Bhante 🙏🏻
   
   
2. Inmanus December 10, 2019 at 9:24 AM

   I found you on BitChute on Brian Ruhe's channel but I was searching Buddhist oriented videos. Brian and you were the first to come up. Glad I found you too! I also think Brian seems to be a pretty cool dude. I am a Buddhist first but believe on the mundane level Hitler and his Nazism was a product of Nature which was both dependent and conditioned by the circumstances of that time. And I'm no psychic but judging by how things are going now I believe they are setting the stage (or increasing the potential) for something very similar... because what more is nature than cause and effect. People seem to think nature us just birds, bees, mountains, and trees... Those are the shadows of States driven by forces and on the mental plane there are similar cause and effect happenings. Then there are collectives (tribes) and their social interactions which are similarly seen when you observe a school of fish or flock of birds as they move in unison. Similar movements are seen in people who observe properly... It isnt an exact science as all happenings and States have are multifactored. Right now there are worlds colliding and it seems chaotic because there is a great turbulence on the mental planes and many are confused. This is a result of our hyperconnectivity in this age of information and networking. No one knows what this climax might look like or if there will even be one. But the racial tension and rabid sectarian tribal animosity of people with separate views and culture is what happens when they are forced to blend which increases the rate of change and thus threatens their ways. Just as Hitler was acting out of love for his race and culture because they felt threatened, it would not surprise me if others acted similarly...
3. MotorcycleManiacLtdJanuary 3, 2020 at 6:21 PM

   Perhaps you should check my work Simply Google my name (David Raymond Amos) and start surfing
   
   BTW I can save you a little time in your research of David Irving (I studied him before a lot od stuff went "Poof"

   
   
   
   

   
   
   
   MotorcycleManiacLtd January 3, 2020 at 7:07 PM
   I noticed that you did not publish my second comment Why?
   Paññobhāsa January 5, 2020 at 12:55 PM
   I didn't publish your 2nd comment mainly because lawsuits against the Queen of Britain are not relevant. Also I didn't even see your 2nd comment until after I saw your 3rd comment asking why I didn't post the 2nd one.
   
   
   MotorcycleManiacLtd January 5, 2020 at 2:27 PM
   Just because I did not name your neo nazi friend Mr Ruhe in my lawsuit against the Queen it does not follow that I was not referring to him as one of the people not worth mentioning However trust that I will mention him and your blog about your friend in my next lawsuit

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 23:16:21 -0400
Subject: Fwd: ATTN Paññobhāsa Mahathera RE Truth before friendship If
so then please feel free to ask your friend Brian Ruhe whether I am
liar or not
To: dianechase1977@gmail.com, paul <paul@paulfromm.com>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 23:09:12 -0400
Subject: ATTN Paññobhāsa Mahathera RE Truth before friendship If so
then please feel free to ask your friend Brian Ruhe whether I am liar
or not
To: nippapanca@gmail.com, Brian Ruhe <brian@brianruhe.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

https://www.bitchute.com/video/twFUQIGNCbNT/

Multiplied Speech in the Internet Age

The Brian Ruhe Show
After making the video about arguing over Adolf Hitler, Brian Ruhe and
Ven. Paññobhāsa Mahathera made this video. Hitler is not a
relationship issue...lol!


I noticed that you did not publish my second comment Why?


http://politicallyincorrectdharma.blogspot.com/2019/10/my-friend-brian-ruhe.html

October 16, 2019

My Friend Brian Ruhe

    The purest idealism is unconsciously equivalent to the deepest
knowledge. —Adolf Hitler

    It is better to make a mistake than to do nothing. —Adolf Hitler

     No doubt some of you have noticed that I’ve begun doing weekly
Skype interviews with the notorious Brian Ruhe, the “Nazi Buddhist,”
president of the Thule Society (an organization that endorses the
worship of a deified Adolf Hitler), and lord and master of the Brian
Ruhe show, recently censored and banned from YouTube but still
available on Bitchute. In fact some of you have started reading this
blog because of seeing me on Brian’s show—after all, Herr Ruhe
evidently has a larger following than I do, though that’s not saying
very much. So I suppose I should explain why I am associating with
such a notorious fellow, what I have learned from this association,
and why I now consider him to be my friend.

Comments

MotorcycleManiacLtdJanuary 3, 2020 at 6:21 PM

Perhaps you should check my work Simply Google my name (David Raymond
Amos) and start surfing

BTW I can save you a little time in your research of David Irving (I
studied him before a lot od stuff went "Poof"




http://www.nippapanca.org/
 
Born John David Reynolds in Seward, AK, he was ordained in the Burmese
Taungpulu Forest tradition of Theravada Buddhism in 1991 and spent 18
years in Burma, most of that time in forest caves. He returned to the
US in May 2011, and is experimenting with the possibility of living as
an independent monk in the West. He has specialized in meditation,
monastic discipline, and the subtleties of Buddhist philosophy, and is
willing to teach those who are interested.

He may be contacted by email at
nippapanca@gmail.com

 
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Hence you and the RCMP must know why I sued the Queen Correct?
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Mr. Amos,
We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 00:33:21 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Yo Mr Lutz howcome your buddy the clerk
would not file this motion and properly witnessed affidavit and why
did she take all four copies?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of the office until Monday, March 13, 2017. I will have
little to no access to email. Please dial 453-2222 for assistance.


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From: Marc Richard <MRichard@lawsociety-barreau.nb.ca>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:16:46 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE: The New Brunswick Real Estate
Association and their deliberate ignorance for the bankster's benefit
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of the office until  August 15, 2016. Je serai absent du
bureau jusqu'au 15 août 2016.





> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> To: coi@gnb.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Good Day Sir
>
> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>
> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>
> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
> suggested that you study closely.
>
> This is the docket in Federal Court
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>
> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>
> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>
> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>
> April 3rd, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>
>
> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>
>
> The only hearing thus far
>
> May 24th, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>
>
> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>
> Date: 20151223
>
> Docket: T-1557-15
>
> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>
> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>
> BETWEEN:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>
> Plaintiff
>
> and
>
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
> Defendant
>
> ORDER
>
> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
> December 14, 2015)
>
> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
> in its entirety.
>
> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
> he stated:
>
> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
> You are your brother’s keeper.
>
> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
> Police.
>
> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>
>
> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
> is no order as to costs.
>
> “B. Richard Bell”
> Judge
>
>
> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>
>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>
> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
> dudes are way past too late
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merci ,
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>
>
> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> December 8, 2014
> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>
> Friday, October 3, 2014
> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>
> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>
> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> campaign of 2006.
>
> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>
> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>
> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>
> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>
> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>
> Subject:
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> January 30, 2007
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Mr. David Amos
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>
> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> Minister of Health
>
> CM/cb
>
>
> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>
> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>
> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>
> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>
>  Sincerely,
>
> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> Traffic Services NCO
> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>
>
>
> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
> tel.: 506-457-7890
> fax: 506-444-5224
> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>


On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:

> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz
> ilian.html
>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>
>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>
>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>> cards?
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly200
>> 6
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.
>>
>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html


Sunday, 19 November 2017
Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
The Supreme Court

https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do


Federal Court of Appeal Decisions

Amos v. Canada
Court (s) Database

Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
Date

2017-10-30
Neutral citation

2017 FCA 213
File numbers

A-48-16
Date: 20171030

Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.


BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:

THE COURT



Date: 20171030

Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.


BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT

I.                    Introduction

[1]               On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
(Claim at para. 96).

[2]               On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
Prothontary’s Order).


[3]               On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).


[4]               Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
cross-appeal.


II.                 Preliminary Matter

[5]               Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
several judges but did not name those judges.

[6]               Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
c. F-7:


5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
Appeal.
[…]

5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
[…]
5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.

5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
juges de la Cour fédérale.


[7]               However, these subsections only provide that the
judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
section.
[8]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide that:
3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.

3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
matière civile et pénale.
4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.

4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
compétence en matière civile et pénale.


[9]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
(section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
appeal book.


[10]           Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
conflict in any matter related to him.


[11]           On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.


[12]           During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
such judge had a conflict.


[13]           The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
was a member of such firm.


[14]           During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
Court of Canada over 10 years ago.


[15]           The documents that he submitted in relation to the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
“John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
[16]           Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
apprehension of bias:
60        In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
reasonable apprehension of bias:
… the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
unconsciously, would not decide fairly."

[17]           The issue to be determined is whether an informed
person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
(4th) 193).

[18]           The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
27        Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.


28        The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."


29        It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.


30        That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
            To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
31        There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
his former firm for a considerable period of time.


32        In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
events from over a decade ago.
(emphasis added)

[19]           Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
Webb hearing this appeal.

[20]           Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
(2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.

[21]           In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.

[22]           Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.

[23]           As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
to recuse himself.

[24]           Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.

[25]           Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.


III.               Issue

[26]           The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?

IV.              Analysis

A.                 Standard of Review

[27]           Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
[Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
(Hospira at paras. 82-83).

[28]           In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
interfere.


B.                 Did the Judge err in interfering with the
Prothonotary’s Order?

[29]           The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:

17.       Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
(…)


21.       The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
[footnotes omitted].


[30]           The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
para. 27).


[31]           The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:


[13]      As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:

a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;

b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and

c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
(Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).

[32]           The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
“political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).

[33]           This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:

…When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
“The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
of process…

To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
(at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).

[34]           Applying the Housen standard of review to the
Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.

[35]           The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
supporting a cause of action.

[36]           In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).

V.                 Conclusion
[37]           For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
without leave to amend.
"Wyman W. Webb"
J.A.
"David G. Near"
J.A.
"Mary J.L. Gleason"
J.A.



FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD

A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
DOCKET:

A-48-16



STYLE OF CAUSE:

DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN



PLACE OF HEARING:

Fredericton,
New Brunswick

DATE OF HEARING:

May 24, 2017

REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.

DATED:

October 30, 2017

APPEARANCES:
David Raymond Amos


For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
(on his own behalf)

Jan Jensen


For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL

SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
Nathalie G. Drouin
Deputy Attorney General of Canada

For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL

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Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others 

Methinks folks are ignoring the obvious The USA is not at war with Iran yet N'esy Pas? Imagine if something like this happened on the soil of Russia or any country within NATO against one of their generals What would happen next?


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U.S. military killed top Iranian general on Trump's order, Pentagon says | CBC News

The U.S. Pentagon has confirmed the U.S. military killed Gen. Qassem Soleimani, head of Iran's elite Quds Force and architect of its regional security apparatus, at Baghdad's international airport...

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others 
Methinks folks concerned about the Afghanistan papers and NATO etc should Google my name and Federal Court File No T-1557-15 then scroll down to Statement # 83 ASAP N'esy Pas?

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/trump-already-told-us-he-sees-war-with.html 

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Trump already told us he sees war with Iran as a distraction from a faltering presidency: Keith Boag

Before drone strike, forcing a stricter nuclear deal was U.S. president's goal for Iran

Keith Boag· CBC· Posted: Jan 06, 2020 4:00 AM ET




In media appearances prior to the 2012 U.S. presidential election, Donald Trump speculated that Barack Obama would start 'some kind of a war-skirmish or conflict with Iran' in order to win re-election. (Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

Take note of some of the things we can be sure were sloshing around in U.S. President Donald Trump's head last week while he was also making his momentous decisions about Iran: his impeachment, his Senate trial, the November election.

If you think it's possible none of that was on his mind, check his Twitter account. It's all there. He's an open book.

Trump admitted years ago that he saw war with Iran as a clever ploy to distract attention from a faltering presidency in an election year. At the time he was speculating that's what Barack Obama would have to do to win in 2012. His analysis is preserved for us on video

Trump was, of course, wrong. Obama won re-election handily without making war on Iran. Now it's Trump's turn: his re-election prospects are uncertain; Iran is in the crosshairs. Is he, as he's boasted before, "cocked and loaded"?

• Updated
  Mourners pack Tehran's streets, supreme leader of Iran prays over slain general

Of course, we can't ever be sure about his motives or anyone else's. We will likely never know everything that led the president to decide to escalate the Iran situation. But as the world waits nervously to see whether the U.S. stumbles into another Middle East war, it's possible to understand how we got to this point even if we aren't exactly sure why we're here now.

The Iran strategy until now

The Trump administration's Iran strategy was straightforward — ignore the advice of most of America's allies and unilaterally:

• Break the 2015 nuclear deal agreed between Iran and the leaders of the world's great powers, most notably Obama (even though Iran has been in compliance with the deal's terms);
• Apply "maximum pressure" on Iran, mainly by restoring the economic sanctions that had been lifted under the Iran deal, so as to;
• Force the Iranian regime into a corner of "increasingly difficult choices" and thereby;
• Compel the regime to return to the negotiating table and accept a new and stricter nuclear agreement dictated by Trump.

Occasionally, Trump has behaved as though provoking the overthrow of the Iranian regime was his real intent. But officially, the goal remained to get a deal curbing Iran's nuclear program that Trump could tout as a better deal than the one Obama got.

U.S. troops wait before they head out for a deployment to the Middle East on Saturday, in Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Soldiers from the Immediate Response Force of the 82nd are part of the approximately 3,000 troops being deployed as tensions increase with Iran in the region after a U.S. airstrike killed Soleimani. (Andrew Craft/Getty Images)


So far, it has not worked. Rather than capitulate to the Trump strategy, Iran applied its own form of "maximum pressure," including repeatedly attacking oil tankers near the Strait of Hormuz and shooting down a U.S. drone.

Soon after that drone went down last June, Trump ordered a retaliatory airstrike. Then, 10 minutes before launch, he abruptly cancelled it. He said he'd just found out the strike could kill as many as 150 people. He wasn't soft-hearted; he just felt the response was disproportionate to the offence. Or so he said

A dark corner for Trump

But to Iranian leaders it might have looked as though Trump had simply lost his nerve. Maybe they felt emboldened. In any event, they continued with provocations leading up to the events in Iraq that roused Trump to respond last week with the order to kill Maj.-Gen. Qassem Soleimani — a move many analysts have criticized as massively disproportionate.

• U.S. military killed top Iranian general on Trump's order, Pentagon says

• Who was Qassem Soleimani, the Iranian general killed by a U.S. airstrike?

For decades, Soleimani had been Iran's pre-eminent mastermind behind plots that killed enemy combatants and innocents alike. His exalted stature in the Iranian regime means that the avenging of his death could result in a lot of spilled blood — maybe American blood. How Trump will react to that raises the possibility that the president has now recklessly backed himself into a dark corner of "increasingly difficult choices."

It was a given that after Trump had him blown up, even Trump's harshest critics would grant that the Iranian general had it coming. But the issue is not whether the strike was warranted, but whether it was wise. Was there suddenly a compelling new reason to take out Soleimani that hadn't already existed for years, decades even? After all, both Obama and President George W. Bush reportedly passed up opportunities to kill Soleimani, believing it could provoke a destabilizing reaction that the U.S. would not be able to control. What changed?
 

Gen. Qassem Soleimani, head of Iran's elite Quds military force, was killed early last Friday morning, along with officials with Iran-backed militias, in a drone strike on their two-car convoy that was leaving Baghdad International Airport. Trump said the general 'was plotting imminent and sinister attacks on American diplomats and military personnel.' (Mehdi Ghasemi/ISNA/AFP/Getty Images)

Initially last week there were a few sensational reports that Soleimani was planning an imminent coup against Iraq. Something like that could explain the U.S. response.

But then the Trump administration made unspecified claims that Soleimani was making plans for imminent attacks on Americans. In that case, why take out the planner and not deal with the attackers?

The overriding message from Trump and his team was that Soleimani was a bad guy and the world's now better off. Virtually everything else they brushed off with some version of "trust us, we know what we're doing" reassurance.

• U.S. to hit 52 Iranian sites if Tehran retaliates on Soleimani, Trump tweets

• Analysis
  Iran vs. U.S.: War in progress, shaped by Soleimani, goes on without him

But it's important to note not even Iraq is buying that message. Yesterday the Iraqi parliament voted to expel all foreign troops from its soil at some unspecified time. A clear rejection of Trump's tactics at a critical time, and a decision that would be welcomed in Tehran.

And that gets to the heart of the problem.

On the first full day of Trump's presidency, when Sean Spicer used his television debut as press secretary to lie about the size of Trump's inauguration crowd, wiser heads warned of a day when the handling of something important like national security — or even war — might depend on the trust and credibility of the president and his team.

If things head sideways with Iran, as it appears they might, and there's American blood involved, that time will have come.

About the Author

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Washington Correspondent

One of the CBC's premier political reporters, Keith Boag is currently based in Washington, D.C., following stints in Los Angeles and on Parliament Hill in Ottawa.

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 4966 Comments







John Sollows
The sweetest revenge for Iran would be a much better-educated American public.


Rob Bondar
Reply to @John Sollows:
Im hoping that the lies of 2003 and the Afghanistan papers have had an effect making them more critical. We'll see... 


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @John Sollows: YUP

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Rob Bondar: Methinks folks concerned about the Afghanistan papers and NATO etc should Google my name and Federal Court File NO T-1557-15 then scroll down to Statement # 83 ASAP N'esy Pas?

John Sollows
Canada needs to distance itself from the lunatorcracy to our south. Hope we are having some long talks with various folks across the pond.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @John Sollows: Methinks many agree that we should have pulled out of NATO before the first Gulf War N'esy Pas?

Gina Davis 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: And its obvious with todays statement from NATO they are playing both sides. they are not innocent in the ME.

They need to go.

Alvin Merlot
"Stumbling into a war......"

That is what Americans get when they elect Republican governments, except there is nothing "stumbling" about it. Republicans are very deliberate in getting the USA into war after war.

Gina Davis

Reply to @Alvin Merlot: Its not a partisan issue. Its a US issue of constant conflict and war.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Gina Davis: I agree

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NB Power could energize electric car sales for $20M

Consultant’s report says long-term revenue much higher than upfront infrastructure costs

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Jan 07, 2020 5:00 AM AT



Milda Titford and her husband, Aidan, own one of about 320 electric cars in New Brunswick after buying a Tesla the week before Christmas. Forecasters predict thousands of New Brunswick drivers will join them in the next few years. (Milda Titford/Submitted)

NB Power could significantly accelerate the sputtering adoption of electric vehicles in New Brunswick — and unlock significant new revenues for itself — by spending $20 million to install more fast-charging stations around the province, according to a new report commissioned by the utility and filed with the Energy and Utilities Board.

"Further investments by NB Power in public charging infrastructure will significantly increase EV [electric vehicle] uptake, load growth and associated revenues to NB Power," concludes the report by Montreal-based Dunsky Energy Consulting.

Electric vehicles are still a rarity in New Brunswick, with fewer than 350 registered in the province. But widespread public adoption of the vehicles is coming, according to Dunsky — a lucrative development for NB Power, it says, could be made faster and larger with the right nudge from the utility.

Electric vehicles are seen as an important future source of revenue for NB Power not just because of the power they will consume but because of when they will consume it. Electric cars are often charged by owners at home overnight during times when NB Power has a surplus of  low-cost energy to sell.

• Electric vehicle sales in New Brunswick well below predicted surge

• Electric charging stations coming to provincial parks this summer

"Direct investments in infrastructure deployment by NB Power can drive significant additional value to the utility and to rate payers." Dunsky concludes.

Milda Titford and her husband, Aidan, took possession of a new Tesla Model 3 in Fredericton just before Christmas, part of the trickle of consumers who have made the switch so far in New Brunswick.

"There was an ecological aspect and, yes, of course you're saving on gas," said Titford.

"We really love it."


Tesla has installed some charging stations in New Brunswick, but an NB Power consultant says the utility will have to spend $20 million of its own money to build the full charging infrastructure needed to maximize electric car sales over the next 15 years. (Don Campbell/The Herald-Palladium/Canadian Press/AP)

According to Dunsky, thousands of New Brunswick consumers will soon be joining Titford.

It projects 10,000 electric vehicles in New Brunswick within five years, 20,000 within seven years and up to 80,000 by 2034, if the market is left to grow on its own and various assumptions about that growth holds true over time.

But it says NB Power could trigger a near doubling of that 2034 number to 156,000 electric vehicles if it installed more fast-charging stations in both populated and underserviced areas around New Brunswick.

"Our modelling shows that ongoing growth in the EV population within NB will drive an ongoing need for expansion of this infrastructure to avoid congestion and to ensure full geographical coverage across the province."

Fast-charging ports are 10 times more expensive to install than more common Level 2 car chargers but can provide enough power for an electric vehicle to travel 100 kilometres in just 10 minutes.
 

The Titfords generally charge their new electric car overnight in the driveway from their house. Overnight charging — when low-cost electricity from NB Power is most plentiful — is what makes electric vehicles potentially so lucrative for the utility. (Milda Titford/Submitted)

New Brunswick currently has 141 electric car charging stations with 184 outlets installed by a variety of public and private sector interests around the province. But only 33 of those stations are fast-charging.

Dunsky says adding 80 new fast charging locations with 200 more outlets to plug into would cost $20 million but pay major dividends for the utility.

It argues the stations would fill enough gaps in infrastructure to encourage New Brunswick consumers to buy up to an extra 76,000 electric vehicles than currently expected by 2034 and that would generate up to $108 million in extra income for NB Power after expenses over the next two decades.

"The increase in revenue due to beneficial load growth more than offsets the increased costs associated with these investments and the cost of servicing the EV (electric vehicle) load," says the report.

• NB Power's costly electric charging stations generating little revenue

NB Power has clashed with the Energy and Utilities Board over the appropriateness of using public money to install charging stations in the past and in 2018 was ordered to stop spending money on the infrastructure.

"Developing these stations requires considerable up-front investment," said the EUB in disallowing a plan by NB Power to spend $1.3 million on expanding its network at the time.
 

NB Power has installed a number of electric vehicle charging stations around New Brunswick, like this one at Magnetic Hill opened by former Finance Minister Cathy Rogers in 2017. The EUB found the stations to be outside of NB Power's core business and told it not to spend ratepayers money on them. (CBC)

"EV [electric vehicle] charging stations are not within the core business of NB Power and are already provided by the private sector, without any ratepayer investment. Without a convincing business case, NB Power should not be expanding this program."

The Dunsky report does provide a business case and contends privately funded charging stations in New Brunswick will be insufficient in future years to trigger significant new growth in electric vehicle sales NB Power investments could.

The utility did not immediately respond to a request for comment about whether it plans to use the report to revisit the issue with the EUB.

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Steve Cohen
Every piece of PR drivel that will come out of NB Power for the next 4 months - until Gaetan Thomas retires - will be meant to put a positive spin on the negative JOI story, in an attempt to save Thomas' legacy. As someone already mentioned, it's like Thomas and the Board have ADD. Why would they continue to push an idea the EUB has already determined is outside their mandate? And that's obvious if you read The Electric Power Act. Dunsky states, "Our modelling shows that ongoing growth in the EV population . . .", but they can't model that with any degree of accuracy! And yes, Dunsky is in NB Power's back pocket. Lastly, if EVs do become significant, when are the Federal and Provincial governments going to figure out and impose a method to recoup the lost gas taxes that are used for highway maintenance. EVs cannot not contribute.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Steve Cohen: Lest we forget the Round 2 EUB Hearing for the "Not So Smart" Meters begins next week

David Raymond Amos
Methinks NB Power tried to pull another fast one and filed the Dunsky report within the "Not So Smart" Meter matter not long before the hearing was slated to begin.My friend Roger Richard noticed it and ask about it yesterday during the hearing of his motion. Then Mr Jones ran this story today N'esy Pas?

Here is the relevant portion of the transcript from yesterday

NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY and UTILITIES BOARD

Matter 452

IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation for approval of Advanced Metering Infrastructure capital project

Held at the Board Premises, Saint John, N.B. on January 9 6th 2020.

Page 66

VICE-CHAIRMAN: Si vous avez des questions relativement à cette
semaine, je vous incite d’avoir une discussion avec Maître Black ou
Maître Desmond relativement à la procédure pour vous aider à
présenter votre cas.
DR. RICHARD: Oui. Parfait. Merci.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Est-ce que vous avez d’autres questions relativement
à votre motion?
DR. RICHARD: J’en avais une, mais je n’ai pas mentionné dans ma
motion. It is about the two documents, 10.01 and 11.01.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Vous avez dit 10.01 et puis…
DR. RICHARD: 11.01.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Et votre question est?
DR. RICHARD: Est-ce qu’on peut questionner ses documents là à une
moment donner?
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Ce sont des documents Dr Richard qui ont été
déposées en preuve, donc c’est dans votre droit de questionnée
aucun document qui a été déposée en preuve.
Si vous avez des questions a posé relativement au panel qui va être
présenté par Énergie Nouveau-Brunswick relativement à cet rapport,
oui vous avez le droit de la 3 questionner le rapport.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: "The utility did not immediately respond to a request for comment about whether it plans to use the report to revisit the issue with the EUB."

YEA RIGHT 

 

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VICE-CHAIRMAN: So, Mr. Furey, 10.01 and 11.01, are these both documents that have been filed by Mr. Dunsky? And I don’t have the list of exhibits before me so --
MR. FUREY: Yes. 10.01, I think just from seeing it flash on the screen, is the solar study. And 11.01 is the electric vehicle forecast study.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: So the question that Dr. Richard had is, is he able to ask any questions. And I told him depending on which panel that you will be presenting, which I think it will be Mr. Dunsky, that he has a right to question Mr. Dunsky based on the two reports that is before the Board.
MR. FUREY: Yes. And I just want to say, Mr. Vice-Chair, that we sort of debated internally. We felt we had an obligation to file these because when we looked at the interrogatories, some of the responses were that these were still in process. And in one case I think we had expressly indicated we would file it when ready. And the other I think we were silent. I think on the electric vehicles we were silent on that point. So, you know, some people could see this as new evidence and -- but we felt that we had at least an obligation to file it and if people want to raise those issues. But certainly if the Board wants to provide us for direction for the future, we would appreciate that. We felt we had an obligation to file it in this case but I can see 9 where people might suggest that there is new evidence and -- but clearly --
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Well there was one suggestion that it was new evidence and I think that Dr. Richard essentially had a concern regarding that. But I think right now based on your comment -- and I will ask him the question afterwards if he is satisfied with the answer that he has received. 













Terry Tibbs
No, simply no.
If "Consultant’s report says long-term revenue much higher than upfront infrastructure costs" is to be believed, then the perfect case has been made for private investment, rather than public investment.
Because we all know, when public funds are involved, most things go horribly wrong.


David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks the EUB already told them that but NB Power wants what it wants and the Dunsky Energy Consultant dudes.will say anything to keep their clients Happy Happy Happy N'esy Pas?

Steve Gordon
If there were 156000 EVs as NBPower predicts and they all charge at night, then night time will no longer be a "low demand" period.


David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Steve Gordon: Thanks for the idea. Methinks Mr Jones no doubt understands I should point that out during the long delayed hearing of the EUB 357 Matter whenever they settle the "Not So Smart" Meter issue once and for all N'esy Pas?

EUB punts rate hearing as NB Power studies $122M smart meter plan

EUB agrees to suspend hearing so it can deal first with NB Power's proposed $122M purchase of smart meters
Robert Jones · Posted: Sep 26, 2017 6:00 AM AT

Paul Bourgoin
Electric Cars are here stay! So why not start now to replace dirty gasoline energy while generating a cleaner environment for our children. Or are there any outside pressures on government to slow down the clean energy entry? Government can't stop progress for a cleaner environment!


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: My son bought a Tesla late last year and he likes it so far but I don't plan to replace my dirty old truck anytime soon. Its as old as I am

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: How much are we paying for the dirty coal and the old Nuke plant that NB Power charges cars with? BTW Both my son and my truck are in the USA.

 

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Credit expert warns New Brunswickers about new law allowing wage garnishment

Law went into effect in December allowing creditors to garnishee wages with court order

CBC News· Posted: Jan 08, 2020 2:59 PM AT




The law would, for the first time in New Brunswick, allow creditors to take borrowers to court to have their wages garnisheed. (Lyzaville Sale/CBC)


A Saint John credit counsellor is warning New Brunswickers about a new law that could allow creditors to garnishee the wages of people who owe them money.

The Enforcement of Money Judgments Act came into effect in December.

The law would, for the first time in New Brunswick, allow creditors to take borrowers to court to have their wages garnisheed.

"For 40 years we've not had a money enforcement act and creditors have threatened, or collection agencies have threatened, 'We're going to garnish your wages', said John Eisner, the president of Credit Counselling Services of Atlantic Canada.

It was nothing more than a threat.

"But now with the new act, if they have a judgment, they can act immediately."

In a statement late last year, Justice Minister Andrea Anderson-Mason called the new law a "complete overhaul."

"In many cases people who have received a judgment in their favour struggle to receive what they are entitled to," said Anderson-Mason.

"This act is being brought into force to address this problem and modernize the law."






John Eisner, the president of Credit Counselling Services of Atlantic Canada, worries the new law will be used by collection agencies as an intimidation tool. (CBC )

Eisner said the new rules would exempt some earnings, such as pensions and RRSP contributions, but he's concerned about how it will be determined what percentage of earnings can be taken.

"The people that are going to be determining [the percentage] are the sheriffs or the bailiffs," said Eisner.

"Certainly that would not be their expertise."

Eisner is also concerned about the potential stigma on employees who have their wages garnisheed, since the employer would have to be made aware of the garnishee order.

And, he worries that creditors will use the new law as an intimidation tactic.
"I think it'll fall into the wrong hands," said Eisner.

"People [will] be threatening and intimidating people saying 'we're going to garnish your wages' when in true reality they may not be able to. They need to have a judgment placed on them in order for that garnishment to work."

Eisner's advice is to deal with any debt issues now, before they have a chance to work their way through the court system.

"It's a new year. Maybe it's time to take a good hard look and say 'let's get someone to properly look at it,'" said Eisner.

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David Raymond Amos
Methinks Higgy may enjoy reading this spit and chew even more that the one about Cardy and Austin N'esy Pas? 











Ken Dwight
Irving is going after defaulted payments again. This time they can use their puppet in charge to write a law for them.

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Ken Dwight: You got it.

Dianne MacPherson 

Reply to @Ken Dwight:
What an asinine statement !!!!

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks sometimes less is more N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos
Methinks many would agree that the Justice Minister Andrea Anderson-Mason made a major faux pas for the benefit of banksters N'esy Pas?


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: BTW The Minister of Revenue Canada and every Attorney General in Canada knows why I attended this hearing in particular 

Federal court rules against Credit Counselling Services of Atlantic Canada

Now operates as a non-profit and cannot issue tax receipts

Blair Rhodes· CBC News· Posted: Jun 30, 2016 12:05 PM ET

Credit Counselling Services of Atlantic Canada will not regain its charitable status, a federal court has ruled.

The organization has lost its bid to overturn a decision by the Minister of National Revenue.

In a decision released today, the Federal Court of Appeal upheld a ruling by the minister that said the service does not qualify as charitable activity under the definition in the legislation.

'Business as usual'

The president of Credit Counselling Services, John Eisner, says it's "business as usual."

Eisner said the service has been operating without charitable status since the minister's decision was issued in 2013. He said the only difference is they can't issue charitable receipts.

"We felt that we did everything right," Eisner said.

"We felt we had to fight it [the minister's decision]," he said.

The service, which is based in Saint John, offers financial advice and debt management services for its clients through offices across Atlantic Canada. It has operated as a non-profit since losing its charitable status.

On its website, the service says it doesn't receive any government funding, and the majority of its funding comes from voluntary donations from the creditors they deal with.

• CBC Archives: Banks scrap joint donations to credit counselling

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Banks scrap joint donations to credit counselling

The Canadian Press· Posted: Aug 26, 2009 1:56 PM ET

A group representing non-profit credit counselling agencies across Canada says the country's banks are dismantling a single, unified donation program and moving instead to a one-on-one system that could mean more red tape and increased costs for the group.

Credit Counselling Canada, or CCC, said the current program, where banks collectively donate money to help it offer counselling and education programs for consumers, is being scrapped at the end of October.

CCC director Scott Hannah said once the program ends it will have to negotiate separate donation agreements with each of the 19 banks and other financial institutions it currently deals with in Canada.

"It's disappointing," Hannah said of the upcoming change.

"Before, we had a national agreement where all banks agreed to the same conditions and standards. Now, they will have to negotiate with our national association on a one-on-one basis."

The program has been administered by the Canadian Bankers Association, which will step away from that role altogether as of Nov. 1.

Hannah is concerned the new system will mean a lot more administration work for his non-profit organization, take more time and cost more to handle.

What's more, there is a concern that the CCC could receive fewer funds overall.

He said the association is currently talking to the banks about how to go forward with the new system, and how it will work.

"Our hope is that we are going to have a similar type of agreement that will allow our members to continue on with their good work both proactively and from a rehabilitation standpoint," Hannah said.

"Right now, our existing funding agreement allows us to do that."

Bad timing

CCC represents nine non-profit credit counselling agencies, each with offices throughout Canada.
The timing is seen to be particularly bad given the recession, rising unemployment and increased bankruptcy rates among Canadians.

Personal bankruptcies rose 54.3 per cent in June compared with the same month last year, to a total of 13,792, according to the federal Office of the Superintendent of Bankruptcy. The overall rate for personal and business bankruptcies was a 51.1 per cent rise year-over-year, or 14,418 insolvencies.

"Our goal is to be able to maintain a level of support that meets the needs of Canadians, especially in these challenging times," Hannah said.

He said he hopes a new system could potentially mean increased funding to compensate for both the higher costs to run the programs, as well as the greater need to help Canadians who are struggling financially during the current economic downturn.

The Canadian Bankers Association said banks have donated to the CCC for the past 10 years according to its national donation policy.

In 2007, that amounted to $12 million of funding to 28 not-for-profit credit counselling agencies across the country, bankers association  spokeswoman Maura Drew-Lytle said.

She said the program will change from "industry policy to individual bank policies" arranged with the credit counselling industry.

"The CBA will no longer be involved in making these arrangements," she said in an email.

Drew-Lytle said banks will continue to support credit counselling agencies, "but have come to the view that a one-size-fits-all policy through the CBA may not be the best way to provide that support."

She said the new approach will give the banks more flexibility to offer funding based on their individual business priorities.

"While the method of providing funding is changing, the banks' commitment to credit counselling and financial literacy is not," she said.

Individual banks contacted refused to comment on the upcoming change, or were not immediately available.

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Thursday, 9 January 2020

A scrap over scrapping: What you need to know about the latest fight
over French immersion

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Methinks we all missed Dominic Cardy and his buddy Kelly Lamrock Their lust for Butter Tarts alone makes for a jolly circus in Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/french-immersion-new-brunswick-debate-cardy-higgs-austin-1.5419730

A scrap over scrapping: What you need to know about the latest fight over French immersion

Media report, People's Alliance set off firestorm over fate of second-language education program

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jan 08, 2020 5:45 PM AT



Education Minister Dominic Cardy told CBC News the province is not considering scrapping French immersion. Instead, he said they're designing alternatives to the existing program (CBC)

Everything Dominic Cardy said this week he has said before.

That the provincial government is concerned about poor achievement rates among French immersion students. That the province will look at other ways to teach French to anglophone students. And that it will pilot some new approaches in a handful of schools this fall.

But the way those comments were interpreted in one media report, and the way People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin saw them as a plan for "scrapping" immersion, set off a storm.

"I've read what both gentlemen have to say, what Mr. Cardy had to say and what Mr. Austin had to say, and they're not congruent," said Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers. "They're two different stories, so I think it's very important for Premier Higgs to tell us who is correct."

• Cardy denies report suggesting New Brunswick is scrapping French immersion program

It's a vivid reminder of the complexity and emotion at the heart of the immersion debate. Here's what you need to know about that debate.

Higgs is fixated on fixing immersion

Whenever he's asked about bilingualism, Premier Blaine Higgs focuses not on how it affects francophones but on how the immersion program must be fixed so that more anglophones can compete for jobs designated as bilingual.

Higgs has a complicated history with language issues.



Premier Blaine Higgs is bent on making changes to the French immersion system. (CBC)

Liberals paint him as hostile to bilingualism because of his involvement three decades ago with the Confederation of Regions party, but the premier said when he first ran as a PC in 2010 that his views had changed. His four daughters were in French immersion.

Higgs is an engineer; his approach in government is to identify problems and fix them. He wants more immersion grads to be fluent in French, and that's the prism through which he sees the issue.

The numbers aren't great, but they may not be that bad, either

The most-frequently quoted figure about immersion is from a report by Auditor-General Kim MacPherson last year, which said only 10 per cent of the students who started immersion in 2005 graduated with advanced French or better. Cardy mentions it often.

But MacPherson's audit pointed out that 75 per cent of the 2005 cohort transferred out of the program before graduating. It's common for many immersion students to drop it when they reach high school, where fewer courses in French are available.

Of those who followed it all the way through Grade 12, 40 per cent had advanced or higher levels of French, MacPherson reported.
 

Cardy said he's not thrilled with the recent performance scores highlighted in an auditor general's report last year. (Photofusion/Shutterstock)

"Forty per cent is still nothing to be thrilled about," Cardy said Wednesday, though he added his department is working on offering more elective courses to immersion students to keep them in the program through Grade 12.

New Brunswick Teachers' Association president Rick Cuming said any changes "have to be based on the research we have," and should be gradual, as Cardy has promised.

Cardy's deputy minister knows this issue from the other side

Last year George Daley, then the president of the NBTA, warned against another change to French immersion "because it does create more upheaval in the system," which has seen several major changes already in the last decade.

Daley's now in a position to make that argument directly to Cardy: last fall, after leaving the top NBTA position, Higgs hired him as deputy minister of education for the anglophone school system.


 
Provincial affairs reporter Jacques Poitras explains how everything Dominic Cardy said this week about French immersion he has said before and sheds light on how Kris Austin's comments were interpreted as a plan to "scrap" immersion. 2:00

Cuming said he was glad to see Cardy promise this week that any change will be gradual.

Scrapping immersion is not inevitable, Cardy says

Cardy's own cabinet colleague, Finance Minister Ernie Steeves, suggested last year that it would be unthinkable to get rid of immersion.

"New Brunswick is a bilingual province and we will have a French immersion system," he said after Alliance Leader Kris Austin called for it to be eliminated.

Information Morning - Moncton

Minister says French immersion is not going to be cancelled

 
Education Minister Dominic Cardy says media reports that suggested French immersion programs were going to be scrapped were misleading. 8:39


Cardy said again this week that he'll stick with immersion if there's no alternative.

"If we can find a program that will give us better results for second-language training in the province, I can't imagine any New Brunswicker would object to that," he said.

"And if we can't and the programs we have are the best we can possibly get, I would have no problem saying we can keep them."

The Liberals tried this before

The Liberal government of Shawn Graham launched an overhaul of French second-language programs in 2008 under then-Education Minister Kelly Lamrock, who is a friend of Cardy and who has advised the PC government.

Lamrock first tried to create a universal French program starting in Grade 5, with students able to choose immersion the following year.



Former education minister Kelly Lamrock was one of the recent ministers to overhaul the program. (CBC)


But in the face of protests and a court challenge, the Liberals established a Grade 3 entry point for immersion instead.

The PCs opposed the change at the time and launched a public consultation when they took office in 2010. It recommended a move back to Grade 1, but the Tories didn't implement it.

• French immersion entry point remains at Grade 1 — for now

• Frequent school reforms hurt student performance, auditor general finds

Meanwhile, the Liberals also reversed their stance under Brian Gallant's leadership, and restored the Grade 1 entry point in 2017.

At the same time, the PCs abandoned their support for Grade 1 and came out against Gallant's changes, arguing that it was happening too fast and there hadn't been enough time to measure if Grade 3 was working.

Streaming is still an issue

The Liberal rationale for overhauling immersion a decade ago focused on what is known as streaming.

The idea is that immersion creates two tracks of students, those with higher aptitudes who enter and remain in immersion, and those with learning challenges who don't enter the program or who leave it early.

It leads to non-immersion classrooms with higher percentages of students with difficulties, which teachers say can make teaching and learning more difficult.



Critics of the current French immersion system say it creates streaming effects in schools. (iStock)

The Liberal reform of a decade ago was meant to give all students an equal shot at acquiring a solid base of literacy skills before they took on a second language.

Cuming says streaming remains a concern that must be addressed — and must be reconciled with immersion.

"Any re-envisaged model has to also address issues of classroom composition and making sure that the equitable supports are there for students and teachers," he said.

Austin adds to the pressure

Also driving the issue is Austin, who calls French immersion "clearly a failed program," citing the same 10 per cent success rate as Cardy.

The People's Alliance leader says his party supports "some level of second-language proficiency" for all students.

Lowering the proficiency requirement for bilingual government jobs at the same time would then allow all graduates to compete for those positions, he said Wednesday.



People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin has described French immersion as 'clearly a failed program.' (James West/Canadian Press)

The PC minority government relies on Austin's three-member caucus for support on confidence votes, and last month Higgs called the Alliance leader "very thoughtful and rational." Austin has repeatedly touted his influence over PC decisions.

But Cardy was irritated this week when Austin appeared to take credit for a "scrapping" of immersion that isn't happening, at least not yet. He called it divisive and unfortunate.

Austin said he was merely reacting to "media sources" reporting that changes were on the way. "My reaction to that was positive."

Cardy said he's committed to "make sure we can build an actual bilingual province by having a world class education system that at the very least teaches us the two languages that are the official languages of our provinces."

It's just a question of how.

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David Raymond Amos
Methinks we all missed Cardy His lust for Butter Tarts alone makes for a jolly circus N'esy Pas?  












David Raymond Amos 
For the public record Dominic Cardy has not returned my calls or answered my emails since i ran against his political party in the fall of 2018. With any luck at all he will not be a cabinet minister after another election next fall

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I would vote for you before I would vote for him.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: What if Cardy, Gauvin and Higgy were willing to share their Butter Tarts with you and all the other SANB dudes?

Lou Bell

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Desperation for desperate people ! Like for whom you voted last election !

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your wannabe lady friend missed you N'esy Pas? 

 

David Raymond Amos 
Methinks Cardy, Austin, Higgy, Vickers and everybody else knows that the docket of Federal Court in Fat Fred City contains the proof that Brad Green the Conservative Attorney General of New Brunswick answered my concerns about public corruption in 2004 after I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament and in 2015 Serge Rouselle the liberal Attorney General answered my lawsuit in Federal Court after I ran in the election of the 42nd Parliament Furthermore nobody can deny that I ran in two more elections since then while everybody laughed at me N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Laugh they did!

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Now I am

Lou Bell

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: And what were your total votes from all those elections ? Did your total reach one hundred ?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Whereas your political heroes know the tally as well as I methinks you should ask them because you would not believe me anyway N'esy Pas? 
 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Nighty Night I hope to be back by closing time tomorrow evening. In the "Mean" Time please give Cardy and your gal pal Lourdes a little hell for me will ya? Methinks Rob Moore has told his cohort Higgy why I sometimes wear my old buddy Tom Kelley's black watch kilt when I am campaigning for public office. Trust that the ghost of that 48th Highlander and his grandchildren will giggle when I say that the dirty deeds are best done at night but you don't have the first clue N'esy Pas?















Lewis Taylor
I know that many haters will try to make this about francophones but it has nothing to do with them whatsoever. It is about options in the anglophone education system.


David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Cry me a river

Fred Dee
There should be ONE education system where Everyone is taught BOTH languages With this, everyone would be EQUAL WRT employment within PNB!!!

This would remove the linguistic foolishness that is going on in our province WTR jobs!! It would take a generation... but then it would be done!! The ned for DUALITY would be gone!! The costs would DROP!!!!!!


Ben Haroldson 

Reply to @Fred Dee: Excellent, right on.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Fred Dee: Dream on

Matt Steele
Anyone with any knowledge about the N.B. Education system knows that french immersion does not work , and has damaged the N.B. Education system . N.B. rates at almost dead last in Standardized Testing Canada wide ; and now some of the major Canadian Universities are discounting N.B. high school transcripts at around 15% for college admissions because our school academic standards are so low . Welcome to N.B. ; Canada's " ONLY " officially bilingual province , and failed social experiment .....Canada's poorest province


David Raymond Amos   

Reply to @Matt Steele: Try telling us something we don't know

Ben Haroldson
the more languages one knows the better you will get along with everyone else.


Mack Leigh 

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: It should be a matter of " choice " and bilingual where numbers warrant... Otherwise it is nothing more than forced frenchification, forced social engineering and the marginalization of all.....all non-francophones.

Toby Tolly

Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
I know 3, and I think you're wrong

Dan Lee

Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
it doesnt matter some of theses quys have hated for generations.....10 languages woulnt suit them

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Toby Tolly: Sure you do!

Cheryl MacLeod 

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: It's a nice thought, but the politics of language have left many NBers feeling financially disadvantaged. And, when you hit people in their pocketbook, they coming back swinging. This is the part that has to change.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you don't know that many even though you claim 
otherwise N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: It's for me to know and you to find out.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Why is it I don't feel the need to checkout the integrity of some dude who pretends to be a woman?

Marguerite Deschamps

 Reply to @David Raymond Amos: no more than you pretending to be a man.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I am a man who is very clearly proud of the fact that I am a grandfather as well. Why do you conceal your gender?

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Past your bedtime, grandpa!

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Naw I having too much fun emailing your nonsense to Higgy et al then blogging it and Tweeting about it before I hit the sack

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: BTW everybody knows the woman you tease all the time is French

Marguerite Deschamps
What does the Higgs Bozon and the Crisse d'Hostie know about this issue? At least Cardy is bilingual.

Vaughn O'Connor

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Being bilingual is not a requirement for understanding the issue and to imply otherwise is bigotry.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Vaughn O'Connor: I concur but methinks it does not shock anyone to see that the SANB dude is a fan of the ex NDP leader N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Cardy is no fan of mine if that's what you're getting at.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you have only two fans and only one has a real name N'esy Pas?

Toby Tolly
all I know is Jacques was misinformed...... misreported


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Toby Tolly: Methinks Jacques is all about Jacques N'esy Pas?

Mack Leigh
Once again Jacques Poitras is seen to be reporting his own " interpretation " of the facts... More than evident that he has an agenda of his own.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Mack Leigh: YUP

Greg Windsor

Reply to @Mack Leigh: ...yes, he is great at twisting the news into something it is not, along with his partner, Forrestall ( I am sure the spelling is wrong) .Both are anti english and very anti Premier Higgs. I am surprised they get away with being so biased. ...I stopped watching them long ago....

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Greg Windsor: a lot less than you're anti-French!

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: How do you explain their actions against me?

Paul Bourgoin
The more NB changes the more it stays alike!
Poor, Poor, New Brunswick what others can do, New Brunswick Politics Can't!!
I wonder why? United we stand and divided we shall fall.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Methinks Cardy prefers that you say plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose N'esy Pas?

Kyle Woodman
Maybe Kelly Lamrock is the problem.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Methinks many liberals would agree that there is no maybe about it Anyone can Google 3 words to find that lawyer's mark on a note to me N'esy Pas?

Cardy Butter Tarts

Kyle Woodman

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: isnt lamrock on team higgs now. The man is a charlatan.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: He most definitely is That is why he signed the Butter Tart note

Kyle Woodman

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I missed the Butter Tart thing. Too busy working. What was that all about anyways?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Google Cardy Butter Tarts

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Your first hit should be my blog dated Friday, 12 January 2018 Scroll down a bit and look at the signatures on the the note Guess who "K" is.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: BTW I was not joking about your name the other day

My FBI Special Agent who came to Canada with me in 2005 (FBI has a different meaning among my Clan) was a Yankee friend named David Woodman He is now deceased but I still have his truck and camper.

Lou Bell

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Do more people read it than the 25 who sign their names on your nomination papers , and then don't even vote for you ? 

 

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks Cardy don't care much for your opinions either because you won't put Butter Tarts on the menu in the DECH N'esy Pas Lourdes? 

















Mac Isaac
As long as there are still people who are vocally anti-bilingualism/anti-French and have a political party that espouses these same feelings New Brunswick will continue being divided. As well, there remains those who see a vast French conspiracy to make this province unilingual French and/or are vehemently against such places, i.e. the province of Quebec; ignoring the fact that all other provinces are officially unilingual English. Honestly, I don't see any solution because those of us who see great value and merit in being bilingual are countered by another group arguing against all things French or remotely bilingual. Even the argument that we can agree to disagree will never earn any support...lines are too strongly drawn. It's really sad...Premiers Robichaud and Hatfield wouldn't be happy to see what has become of their dream of a province which respected both linguistic groups.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Mac Isaac: If you truly mean what you say then why not use a real name?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Mac Isaac: I must say you and Cardy appear to be cut from the same cloth

Donald Gallant
I don’t think the Immersion programs are doing enough.

NB needs to do more and do them differently.

Summer camps . Exchange programs. Language cafe’s.

We must interact better.

Greg Windsor

Reply to @Donald Gallant: ....dear gawd, quit wasting my money !!!!!

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Greg Windsor: Methinks you should relax and enjoy the circus You already paid your bits to see it just like the rest of us did N'esy Pas?

Errol Willis
I can't believe we are doing this AGAIN!!!

Does any other province put as much time, effort, and money into attaining a second language? We are the poorest province in the country and this is what we choose to spend millions on AGAIN???

This truly is an example of Einstein's definition of insanity


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Errol Willis: Its par for the course in Fat Fred City

Allan J Whitney
Make sure nobody uses their handbrain which translates voice into a number of other languages.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Allan J Whitney: Methinks not all of us are lucky enough to afford such toys Furthermore everybody around the Bay of Fundy and up north understands Chiac N'esy Pas?

Michael Durant
Catherine the Great of Russia was a German who after marrying the Russian leader rose early in the morn to study and become fluent in the Russian language from those commoners who stoked the palace fires. Not a teacher or school room in sight.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Michael durant: In the past I preferred to learn the lingo from the ladies i dated.

http://charlesotherpersonalitie.blogspot.com/2020/01/fake-news.html

Wednesday, 8 January 2020

FAKE NEWS!!!!!

Posted by Charles Leblanc at 12:25 pm




https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/french-immersion-new-brunswick-dominic-cardy-1.5418422

Cardy denies report suggesting New Brunswick is scrapping French immersion program

Education minister also denies secret talks with People’s Alliance

Colin McPhail· CBC News· Posted: Jan 07, 2020 10:24 PM AT

Education Minister Dominic Cardy denied a report Tuesday night the province was considering scrapping the French immersion program. (Edwin Hunter/CBC)

Education Minister Dominic Cardy has denied a report the New Brunswick government is considering abandoning the provincial French immersion program.

A headline published Tuesday evening on the website of the Telegraph-Journal, the provincial newspaper, stated, "Province plans to scrap French immersion program." When asked to clarify, Cardy repudiated the report.

"The headline saying we're scrapping French immersion is simply, straight up inaccurate," Cardy told CBC News.

The minister said, however, the government is developing a pilot project to test alternative approaches to French second language training in the province. The project will be rolled out in a dozen anglophone schools in September 2020.

Cardy said the pilot is in the early design stages but didn't offer further information, saying he would share those details when ready.

• French immersion entry point remains at Grade 1 — for now

• Francophone group considers how to impact French immersion education

Cardy said his government has publicly discussed changes to the French immersion program, among many other reforms, in the green paper on education that was published last fall.

"Nothing beyond that is in the works right now," he said.

Denies secret talks with People's Alliance

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin was quoted in the Telegraph-Journal article as saying he had been speaking with Cardy and Premier Blaine Higgs "for the past year" about a plan to do away with the program, adding he was "thrilled" at the prospect.

Cardy said Austin's comments were "inaccurate" and "irresponsible."

People’s Alliance Leader Kris Austin told the Telegraph-Journal he has been discussing the idea of scrapping the French immersion program with Cardy and Higgs for the past year. Cardy denied the statement. (CBC)
"To say there's some plan which hasn't been shared with the public to get rid of French immersion is simply untrue," Cardy said.

"There are certainly going to be absolutely no secret closed-door decisions or discussions with people in other parties on issues as important as this."

Neither Austin nor an Alliance spokesperson responded to a request for comment Tuesday night.

• Frequent school reforms hurt student performance, auditor general finds

• Education system needs more resources, not reforms, says francophone teachers association

The Progressive Conservative government has been critical of the existing program and its poor performance levels.

Figures in a January 2019 auditor general's report show that of 1,624 students who began French immersion in 2004, only 10 per cent finished Grade 12 with an "advanced" or better level of French.

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Subject: YO Kris Austin I wonder if your buddy Dominic Cardy's ears
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Thursday, 9 January 2020

A scrap over scrapping: What you need to know about the latest fight
over French immersion

https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies


David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks we all missed Dominic Cardy and his buddy Kelly Lamrock Their
lust for Butter Tarts alone makes for a jolly circus in Fat Fred City
N'esy Pas?
 

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/01/yo-dominic-cardy-how-can-you.html

 #nbpoli #cdnpoli


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/french-immersion-new-brunswick-debate-cardy-higgs-austin-1.5419730


A scrap over scrapping: What you need to know about the latest fight
over French immersion

Media report, People's Alliance set off firestorm over fate of
second-language education program

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jan 08, 2020 5:45 PM AT

 69 Comments



David Raymond Amos
Methinks we all missed Cardy His lust for Butter Tarts alone makes for
a jolly circus N'esy Pas?






David Raymond Amos
For the public record Dominic Cardy has not returned my calls or
answered my emails since i ran against his political party in the fall
of 2018. With any luck at all he will not be a cabinet minister after
another election next fall

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I would vote for you before I would vote for him.

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: What if Cardy, Gauvin and Higgy were
willing to share their Butter Tarts with you and all the other SANB
dudes?

Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Desperation for desperate people !
Like for whom you voted last election !

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your wannabe lady friend missed you N'esy Pas?









David Raymond Amos
Methinks Cardy, Austin, Higgy, Vickers and everybody else knows that
the docket of Federal Court in Fat Fred City contains the proof that
Brad Green the Conservative Attorney General of New Brunswick answered
my concerns about public corruption in 2004 after I ran in the
election of the 38th Parliament and in 2015 Serge Rouselle the liberal
Attorney General answered my lawsuit in Federal Court after I ran in
the election of the 42nd Parliament Furthermore nobody can deny that I
ran in two more elections since then while everybody laughed at me
N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Laugh they did!

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Now I am

Lou Bell
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: And what were your total votes from all
those elections ? Did your total reach one hundred ?

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Whereas your political heroes know the tally as
well as I methinks you should ask them because you would not believe
me anyway N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Nighty Night I hope to be back by
closing time tomorrow evening. In the "Mean" Time please give Cardy
and your gal pal Lourdes a little hell for me will ya? Methinks Rob
Moore has told his cohort Higgy why I sometimes wear my old buddy Tom
Kelley's black watch kilt when I am campaigning for public office.
Trust that the ghost of that 48th Highlander and his grandchildren
will giggle when I say that the dirty deeds are best done at night but
you don't have the first clue N'esy Pas?

Green Party broke 27-year-old N.B. fundraising record in 2018

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks the LIEbrano lawyer Greg Byrne should review the documents and CD I gave him and many others in 2004 and his email to me after I got of the Yankee jail N'esy Pas? 


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/political-party-donations-green-record-breaking-1.5420245

Green Party broke 27-year-old N.B. fundraising record in 2018

Green donations far outpaced those of other 3rd parties

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Jan 09, 2020 5:00 AM AT



Leader David Coon helped win three seats for the New Brunswick Green Party in the 2018 provincial election. The campaign was fuelled in part by nearly $303,000 in donations — a record for a New Brunswick third party. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

New Brunswick's Green Party flexed its growing fundraising muscle in the province's 2018 election, pulling in more donations than the NDP and People's Alliance combined and closing some of the money gap with Liberals and Progressive Conservatives, new records show.

In a financial disclosure submitted to Elections New Brunswick last month and recently released by the agency, the Greens reported raising $302,749 from donors in 2018, a record for a New Brunswick third party.

The amount was more than double what either the People's Alliance ($124,570) or New Brunswick NDP ($103,109) were able to coax from their own supporters in 2018.

Political scientist Jamie Gillies said that could make a difference as the three compete among themselves in the next election to emerge as the main alternative to the Liberals and PCs.

• Provincial Liberals' cash advantage erased after 2018 election

"If they can take that money and have it work in over 10 ridings, well they're going to hold the balance of power," said Gillies, who teaches at St. Thomas University.

'A party cannot run without funds'

Eighteen supporters gave the Green Party the maximum $3,000 allowed by New Brunswick donation rules, including retired Moncton pathologist Sarah Colwell, who also stood as a candidate in Moncton Southwest.

"A party cannot run without funds. It certainly can't fund candidates and run a campaign without adequate funding," said Colwell about her donation.

"It's important to vote, but if you can support them financially, that's a really important thing to do."



Former Moncton pathologist Sarah Colwell was one of 18 supporters to donate $3,000, the legal maximum, to the New Brunswick Green Party in 2018. The People's Alliance took in three of that size and the NDP one. (Submitted)

Fredericton resident Margaret Trahms-Coombs also gave the maximum $3,000, a significant increase over the $1,000 she donated in the 2014 election year.

"My familiarity with the party has been growing and ability to donate is growing," she said

"I really believe in their philosophy. I really believe we need to move in that direction."

Closing ground on top 2

New Brunswick Green Party fundraising is still well behind the PCs and Liberals, who raised $1.3 million and $1 million in 2018, respectively, but the Greens are closing ground.

Amounts raised by the big two parties were both down in 2018 by a combined 20 per cent from 2014, while Green Party donations more than doubled over the same period.
 

Political scientist Jaimie Gillies says the Green Party's ability to raise money will be an important advantage in the competition in the next election with the NDP and People's Alliance to emerge as the main alternative to the Liberals and PCs. (CBC)

Gillies said Green supporters tend to view the party as both an environmental and political organization and a high proportion of affluent urban professionals in that group can afford to finance their convictions.

"It's like a charitable contribution and less like a donation to a political party," he said. "So an environmentalist would happily put their money toward the Green Party because it ticks both [environmental and political] boxes.

"You have a demographic that skews middle class to upper middle class among a lot of the core supporters who are willing to contribute."

• Chief electoral officer drops financial hammer on delinquent Liberals, Greens

• It's getting easier being Green and other takeaways from the election polls data

The previous record for minor party fundraising in New Brunswick was held by the former Confederation of Regions Party, which raised $274,000 to fight the 1991 election, and the New Brunswick NDP, which brought in $272,000 in 2014.

The Green Party financial return is the last one to be submitted to Elections New Brunswick from 2018 and arrived six and a half months late.

Political parties were required to file returns by May 31, 2019, but only the PCs met that deadline.

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36 Comments  







David Raymond Amos
"The Green Party financial return is the last one to be submitted to Elections New Brunswick from 2018 and arrived six and a half months late."

Methinks somebody should wonder why N'esy Pas? 





















Mike Morton

The celebration of mediocrity!

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Mike Morton: Methinks you are being nice N'esy Pas?

Fred Brewer
Anyone who says the Greens are a one issue party are either ignorant of the facts or are just parroting the official lines offered by the increasingly nervous Liberals and Conservatives.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Methinks everything political is always about the money just as this article easily proves N'esy Pas?

Tim Astle
"A Fool and His Money Are Soon Parted"


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Tim Astle: True

Lou Bell
Libs will most likely be well below the million dollar mark by the end of 2019. Dropping like flies ! That underhanded 110 million dollar giveaway plan has done them in .

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Lou Bell: Be careful what you wish? The next government might be a coalition of the Liberals and the Greens. Now that would make for a good government!

Dan Lee

Reply to @Lou Bell:
Psssst Lou.......Harper gave 288 millions to Irving for a blueprint of a boat where the boat was going to cost in total..........120 millions....Mkay s answer was....errrr huh....it was worth it............

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Surely you jest 
 

Lou Bell
Reply to @Dan Lee: And which provincial party did Harper run for again ? Err Huh ??

Lou Bell

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Greens are too smart to side with the Liberals , other than the one SANB plant !

 

 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Deja Vu 4 U

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/kim-poffenroth-financial-returns-liberals-greens-1.5339011

Jonas Smith
The first step in being owned, NB's political parties should really be funded by public money based on popular vote received. If donations are to be kept, the threshold should be lowered to 500$ max.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Jonas Smith: Why bother with money at all? I don't

Mack Leigh
Oh , the Watermelon Party, green on the outside and pure, pure red on the inside..SANB loves, loves, loves the Green Party. Could it be that the SANB and the Francophone Elite are now hedging their bets ?

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Mack Leigh: They sure are not in love with the PA!

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Mais Oui

Fred Brewer
The next election will shock those that think the Greens are irrelevant. NEWS FLASH: it is the Liberals and Conservatives who are rapidly becoming irrelevant because they refuse to do anything for the environment and continue to operate in back rooms.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Dream on 

 

McKenzie King
One issue parties are more of a problem than a solution. Modern governments have to be many-faceted, and one issue parties have always struggled with this.


Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @McKenzie King: LIke the COR and the PA.

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @McKenzie King: Sigh. So many people seem to think the Green's are a one issue party. Please take the time to visit their website to review their multi-faceted platform and you will see they are most definitely NOT a one issue party.

Lou Bell 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: More like the failing SANB Libs ! One issue only and it showed until they were given the boot and then we all learned of their planned 110 million dollar giveaway to the minority they represent .

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Lou DumbBell: They had the most popular vote. The former COR is governnig by a hair without a majority of the popular vote.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks it must really rot your SANB socks that Higgy still has a mandate N'esy Pas? 

 

Gerry Ferguson
yuppie party


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Gerry Ferguson: YUP

Matt Steele
The Greens may be raising money , but they seem to have a lot of internal problems and infighting going on within their three MLAs , and can't seem to get anything done . They seem to be pretty much irrelevant and ineffective on the N.B. political scene .


Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Infighting, that's how the COR party imploded before.

Mack Leigh 

Reply to @Matt Steele: I would suspect that Coon is having a hard time controlling his party's loose cannon , good ole SANB boy K. A.....Now that one has an agenda all of his own and it appears to be more red than green.

Lou Bell

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Like the Libs are now. People coming to see they're run by the U de M and the " Shediac six " !

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Lou DumBell: Bilingualism is cast in stone. Way past time to turn the page.

Dan Lee

Reply to @Lou Bell:
Ah lou...and Pa is run by rednecks and clones of their parents....no marbles to run in a French riding.....why?they need to mix with other people.........

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Dan Lee: Methinks you are correct about the PANB but the loose cannons on deck are 2 French dudes the former president of the SANB and the Deputy Premier N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/kim-poffenroth-financial-returns-liberals-greens-1.5339011

Chief electoral officer drops financial hammer on delinquent Liberals, Greens

Liberals, Greens missed deadline to disclose their donation, expense information

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Oct 29, 2019 6:00 AM AT




New Brunswick's Chief Electoral Officer, Kimberly Poffenroth, is withholding quarterly payments to the Liberals and Greens after the parties failed to submit financial returns. (Jon Collicott/CBC)

New Brunswick's chief electoral officer has begun turning financial screws on the provincial Liberal and Green parties for broadly missing the deadline to disclose their donation and expense information to the public from last year's election.

"I have a number of duties that are imposed on me," said Kimberly Poffenroth, who also holds the position of supervisor of political financing .

"It's not possible for me to fill those obligations if political parties don't comply with their obligations to file timely and complete financial returns."

Poffenroth informed both parties in a letter earlier this month they will not be getting their latest quarterly installment of public financing until they submit valid financial returns from 2018, which were legally due months ago.

The NDP also received the letter but has since filed its return.

Allowance withheld

Provincial Liberals were scheduled to receive $60,299 this month in a quarterly public financing payment based on their 2018 election vote total, with the Green party entitled to $20,231.25.  But Poffenroth said she will hold the money at least until the end of the quarter on Dec. 31 unless the parties file their complete financial statements before then.

"I advised the parties whose returns are outstanding that I would not be authorising the payment on their annual allowance until I received their annual return for 2018," said Poffenroth.

Party returns are a key element of political transparency across Canada, offering the public a window into how parties raise and spend money and who their major donors are.

It's a top priority to deal with it.​​​

- Greg Byrne, New Brunswick Liberal Party

But it is so far a mystery who financed the Liberal and Green party campaigns in 2018, how much was spent by each and what kind of financial shape they were left in to fight a future election if New Brunswick's minority government falls apart unexpectedly.

New Brunswick legislation requires all parties to file audited financial statements for each calendar year disclosing all important information, including donations, debts and expenses "no later than May 31 of the following year."

That date was originally April 1 but loosened to May 31 by the Legislature in 2017 to give parties more time to comply with the law.
It didn't help.

This year only Progressive Conservatives and the now defunct Keep It Simple Solutions (KISS) party met the deadline. The People's Alliance did not file its return until mid-September, 15 weeks late, with the NDP return showing up only recently.

Parties blame staffing changes

Greg Byrne, acting executive director of the New Brunswick Liberal Party, said internal changes following the party's defeat in 2018 has caused a delay in disclosing its financial information.

"It's a top priority to deal with it," said Byrne

"We have had some changes here at the party office. The executive director has left and we've had a change in controller here, too, and we're just adjusting to the transfer of responsibilities and we're working through everything. Hopefully everything will be finalized this week."


Greg Byrne, acting executive director of the New Brunswick Liberal Party, said internal changes caused a delay. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

The Liberal party has had a change in personnel, but former executive director Keiller Zed left the position in September, long after the May financials were due.

The Green Party's executive director also blamed staffing problems for missing the deadline and said it could still be "weeks" before its return is ready.

"We went through a staff change since the election," said Marco Morency, who was hired by the party in April.

"This is what slowed us down. The work is almost complete."

Half-year returns also missing

New Brunswick parties are also legally required to file half-year returns which, for 2019, were due Sept. 30.

All parties, with the exception of Progressive Conservatives, have missed that deadline as well.
Poffenroth said she has not yet turned her attention to those violations.

"I haven't determined what my next steps are going to be on the mid-year returns yet," she said
"Two of the parties haven't yet submitted their 2018 return so I want them to focus on getting the full year return in".

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David Raymond Amos
Methinks the lawyer Greg Byrne should review the documents and CD I gave him and many others in 2004 and his email to me after I got of the Yankee jail N'esy Pas? 














Lou Bell
Most likely the Libs had to pay the Phonie Games infrastructure money U de M was counting, and now having to pay for it outta their own pockets !!


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you are missing a certain SANB dude who pretends to be a lady N'esy Pas?

Lou Bell
Following the Trump template I see !!

Roy Cummings

Reply to @Lou Bell: What the Hell does this have to do with America or Trump. It is Canada, the Liberals and the NDP.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Roy Cummings: Methinks former PM Harper and even the ghost of the Yankee lawyer Elijah Cummings would agree that the conservative lady north of the medicine line doth protest too much about Trump and his malicious nonsense. Trust that Trump, his buddy Harper and everybody else knows that I got an answers in writing from Elijah Cummings and many of his congressional cohorts long before I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament N'esy Pas?

Karl Jensen
They would file their returns on time if, instead of just delaying the payments, the total payment is reduced by 25% for each month the returns are late.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Karl Jensen: Trust that that will never happen

Peter Green
"This year only Progressive Conservatives and the now defunct Keep It Simple Solutions (KISS) party met the deadline." Somewhat an indicator of who could be considered fiscally responisble.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @peter green: Yea but its only an indicator Methinks with regards to the conservatives many would agree that its only a flash in the pan because like KISS they had no money going into the election so a month of bookkeeping should be easy to record and report (The Conservatives even had their HQ in Fat Fred City up for sale) On the other hand the liberal bank account was overflowing hence they have lots of money to hide as they wait for the next speech from the throne in 3 weeks to see if the PANB will continue to support Higgy and his cohorts N'esy Pas?

Shaun Flynn
I love how it's okay for the political parties to NOT follow the law in reporting donations and expenses etc, but it's a completely different story when John & Jane Q. Public don't submit tax returns etc. Man, the fines, the assessments, the speed with which they are gone after is incredible! I laud Kimberley Poffenroth on withholding ANY & ALL funding to these political parties until they are completely up to date with their returns! I also want to know what fines, if any, are assessed for late filings!


David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Shaun Flynn: Dream on if you expect an ethical answer

BruceJack Speculator
citizens elect a government and allow them to handle all the tax revenue they take from us. how they handle their "own" finances may give a clue as to how they handle "our" money?


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @BruceJack Speculator: Exactly

Lorne Amos
Instead of hold backs, cancel ! If they want to feed on tax money, earn it, otherwise lose it.


BruceJack Speculator

Reply to @Lorne Amos: EXCELLENT suggestion.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @BruceJack Speculator: Spoken just like the conservatives I have debated many times. Methinks you are every bit as happy as I am that we are not related N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @BruceJack Speculator: OOPS The comment was meant to be directed at the other dude named Amos

Lou Bell 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I've heard of Lorne Amos . Who are you again ??

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks I am still the dude bored conservative widows love to hate N'esy Pas?

Laurie Clark
There is no excuse for the delays! None, nada, zip!


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Laurie Clark: True but methinks there could be many political reasons for the deliberate delay N'esy Pas?

Mack Leigh
Thank you Kimberly Poffenroth for doing your job and holding political parties to account...Every party who file late should be subject to a stiff fine with absolutely no exceptions....


Ray Fredette 

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Withholding funds amounts to same thing.

Fred Dee

Reply to @ray fredette: no withholding just means delayed

David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks you forgot that the lawyer Poffenroth was appointed to her position by her liberal pals N'esy Pas?

Fred Dee
should do much more than withhold $$$$$ should fine a % daily!!!!
If I am late paying money to the gov, they punish me with huge penalties!! even for a DAy!!!


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Fred Dee: True

Jonas Smith
Really these are pathetic excuses for parties wanting to be responsible for the public purse strings.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Jonas Smith: YUP

David Peters
"But it is so far a mystery who financed the Liberal and Green party campaigns in 2018..."

Follow the money.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @David Peters: Methinks that is just one of those things that I do that peoplekind fail to appreciate N'esy Pas?

Hydro-Québec to provide 'expertise' in refurbishing Mactaquac Dam

January 10, 2020, 7:10 pm

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-hydro-quebec-mactaquac-1.5421849

Hydro-Québec to provide 'expertise' in refurbishing Mactaquac Dam

NB Power will also import substantial amount of electricity from Québec

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jan 10, 2020 9:12 AM AT




The agreement will see the Quebec utility provide its long expertise with hydro dams to NB Power. (Alan White/CBC)

NB Power is turning to Hydro-Quebec for help in refurbishing its largest hydroelectric dam at Mactaquac near Fredericton.

NB Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas and Hydro-Québec CEO Éric Martel made the announcement at a Friday morning news conference at the dam.

The agreement will see the Québec utility provide its long expertise with hydro dams to NB Power to allow the dam to continue operating until 2068.

"We are happy to share the expertise of Hydro-Québec acquired over the years," Martel said, pointing out the utility recently did a similar refurbishment on its Beauharnois dam near Montreal.

The deal will also see New Brunswick's utility agree to import a substantial new amount of electricity from Québec between now and 2040.

Already buying Quebec power

NB Power has been buying hydro power from Quebec since 2012.

The 47 terawatt hours per year is about 15 per cent of NB Power's average annual generation.

That power will fill some of the gap created when Mactaquac's turbines shut down for the refurbishment and will be a positive backup plan if no alternative to coal is found for the Belledune generating station by a 2030 deadline.

The two utilities will also discuss building new transmission lines between the two provinces.

The Mactaquac dam opened in 1968 with an expected service life of 100 years. However, an alkali aggregate chemical reaction in the dam's concrete has been causing the dam to expand over the years, resulting in the expected end of life in 2030.

The cost of a complete rebuild of the dam has been estimated at between $2.7 and $3.6 billion, depending on which option was chosen, a major expense for a Crown corporation and a province already deeply in debt.

• Mactaquac refurbishment could be cheaper with federal, not provincial, loan support: expert

• 'The lake stays': NB Power opts to keep Mactaquac dam until 2068

But in 2016 Thomas said it might be possible to extend the life of the existing dam without a major rebuild, a far less expensive route.

'Millions' in savings

He said Friday the contract with Hydro-Québec for the refurbishment will cost around $100 million, but will represent "hundreds of millions" in savings compared to a costlier full replacement of the dam.

And he said NB Power and its customers will also benefit from the inexpensive supply of hydro power from Québec. "It represents significant savings."

While the utility's large debt won't allow rate reductions on power bills, rate increases will be lower than they would be otherwise, he said.

The two agreements make it easier for NB Power to move towards the federal government's goal of net zero carbon emissions by 2050, Thomas added.

"Net zero doesn't happen without all the energy sources available," he said.

But he warned it may not be possible for the federal government to help pay for the refurbishment from its green infrastructure fund, which specifically mentions transmission projects and renewable energy.

Energy exports to the United States are now tax-free and tariff-free, but federal subsidies could jeopardize that and invite American trade retaliation, the CEO said.

Assuming the refurbishment is approved by the Energy and Utilities Board and through an environmental impact assessment, work could start on the dam in 2025 or 2026.

Friday's announcement comes a decade after the Liberal government of Shawn Graham attempted to sell the Crown utility to Hydro-Québec, a widely unpopular proposal that eventually collapsed.

At the time, Graham said the deal fell apart when Hydro-Québec discovered that the looming cost of refurbishing Mactaquac was greater than originally expected, creating a greater financial risk for the Québec utility.

About the Author

Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 

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David Raymond Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise 



There were many deleted comments but the fact that I could not save the exchanges between
Meagaine Trutthough, Marguerite Deschamps and I was too bad because they were kinda special




David Raymond Amos
Methinks folks should not forget that the EUB hearing for NB Power's second attempt to spend 100 million loonies of our money on "Not So Smart" Meters begins Monday morning Perhaps this is just something for folks to talk about in the "Mean" time N'esy Pas? 













Ian Scott
No mention made of pulling coal fired plants offline though? Which is the whole reason I could see for buying power from PQ. That avoids carbon taxing on coal plants in the short run. But PQ gets to block NFLD from similar deals , so whats going on is the question one must constantly ask NBP. ? Buy power instead of making it must mean its a low enough cost to allow resale to you and me at profit after decommissioning coal. Now thats ok if its reasonable and it is fully green.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ian Scott: Lets Mention coal fired plants.

Methinks folks should ask Higgy and the EUB ASAP why NB Power is seeking rate increases again this year N'esy Pas?

Cheap coal stoking NB Power's bottom line — for now
Utility reports it is on track to beat its profit target for the first time in five years
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Nov 27, 2019 7:00 AM AT 

 

Donald Gallant
Why don’t we just wait for power to come forth from NL Muskrat Falls.

Then do away with MD.


John Brown 

Reply to @Donald Gallant: Don't hold your breath or you will turn shades of blue then death. That power is like again going to be stolen by Quebec just as Churchill Falls.

Nick Carver 

Reply to @John Brown: I'm so tired of hearing people complain about the Churchill Falls deal. Nobody held a gun to Newfoundland's head to force them to sign the deal. The made the choice...they live with the consequences.

Anne Bérubé 

Reply to @John Brown: New Brunswick has been buying power from Quebec since 2012 and who was Premier then?

BruceJack Speculator 

Reply to @Anne Bérubé: Long before 2012, but maybe not as part of a particular contract. The Eel River converter station was completed in 1972. The whole purpose of this station was to permit connecting the grids of Quebec and NB. With a normal alternating current grid, you cannot connect them directly because they both have to be in sync on the 60 hertz sine wave so this connector uses direct current to link the two. According to the reference I read this was the first station in the world in 1972 to use a particular technology.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Anne Bérubé: Methinks we were buying power from Quebec back when they were refurbishing Coleson Cove and Point Lepreau N'esy Pas?

John Brown
WHAT! How can NB buy electricity from Quebec, when Quebec steals it from Churchill Falls? In addition, all Quebec's hydroelectric projects have been paid for buy the Canadian tax payer as the money came from the Feds, as did the money for Churchill and now Muskrat Falls, which is a fail, but again the Canadian tax payer will pay but not benefit at all. How does Quebec have the right sell any of that power? It should be divided between provinces for FREE, especially to the largest province Ontario with hydro rates 4 times more than Quebec. WHAT A SHAM! How can businesses across the country compete to stay alive when Quebec businesses get cheap electricity to operate? AGAIN....the rest of the country is ripped off blind with taxes and they just hand them over to Quebec, and NL has one of the highest personal debt in the county and they are only 0.5 million people(500,000). It's no wonder the Maritime's got JT reelected, and they lowered the number day to qualify for EI, which is a bribe.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @John Brown: Do you really think politicians have a conscience?

Eugene Peabody 

Reply to @John Brown: This is a lot of upside down opinion and bad facts .
The feds help all of the provinces with projects like this and at the same level of sharing.
Quebec ,Manitoba B.C.and NB invested their money into hydro power which a Green source of power not affected by the price of fossil fuels.Therefore it makes for cheaper rates.Ontario ,N.S. ,N.B. made the mistake of putting too much of their capacity into coal which costs too much today.Nuke plants have been a bottomless money pit also which raises rates ,which has been a problem for Ontario and N.B.
So it looks like Quebec made a lot of smart moves years ago by taking advantage of their geography which has given them a distinct advantage of having the lowest rates of Green power today.

Jeff LeBlanc
Damn...


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Well put

David Stairs
Another bad decision to fix a bad decision.....our children will regret this ...enough...stop....it's a dead horse....stop the flogging...

Graham McCormack

Reply to @David Stairs: You are an expert on refurnishing dams now? Man you should be running this place.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Graham McCormack: Methinks Mr Stairs knows enough not flog a dead horse which appears to be far more than what you and most politicians know N'esy Pas?

Ralph Green
Rip the dams out and go nuclear then maybe we can restore the Atlantic salmon back to the St. John river.


Claude DeRoche 

Reply to @Ralph Green:
Nuke the salmon?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Ralph Green: Where is the St. John river?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Claude DeRoche: No way

Ralph Green 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: lol St. John:)

Ralph Green 

Reply to @Claude DeRoche: Canada has the safest nuclear power plants in the world, candu reactors.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Ralph Green: Yea Right

Ralph Green 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: ???

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ralph Green: Methinks thats why Harper paid SNC-Lavalin to take our Nuke company N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/aecl-sold-for-15m-to-snc-lavalin-1.985786



Ralph Green 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: doesn’t change the fact on the safety of those reactors. Try again:)

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Ralph Green:There is no need if you are releated to the former AG Brad Green. If not then come to the EUB hearings or Federal Court and debate me in real space and time.

Ralph Green

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: lol no I’m not related to brad green:))) before I engage in any more discussion with you I have a question. Was there ever a government that you liked federally or provincially???

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ralph Green: You are definitely politically related and not all that bright because I made it a point not to mention politics N'esy Pas?

Ralph Green

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: by the way go read your responses to my questions, no politics:)))????

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ralph Green: BTW Like my Forefathers I have a great deal of respect for R.B. Bennett

Ralph Green

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: he’s before my time, you must be up in years:)))

Ralph Green

Reply to @Ralph Green: you older than 55:)?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ralph Green: This is your first comment thread in this forum and you certainly know who I am However I doubt that is your real name

Ralph Green

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: btw I do agree with some of your comments concerning our province.

Ralph Green

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: you must be a liberal.

Michel Forgeron

Reply to @Ralph Green: It's spelled Saint John River, while the city is spelled St. John. Not a big deal.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Which Saint John are you referring to the one at the mouth of our river or the one on The RocK?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ralph Green: "you must be a liberal"

Methinks you should have your friend Mr Forgeron explain Federal Court File No.T-1557-15 to your real slow Better yet perhaps you should come to the EUB hearing on Monday. Trust that I would enjoy introducing you to a few of lawyers who work for you so that they can explain who I am N'esy Pas?

Claude DeRoche
Tear it down, North Eastern America has a huge surplus of electricity
not counting Muskrat Falls coming online sometime in this century!


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Claude DeRoche: Its an earthen dam there is no need to tear it down.

Ralph Green 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: you saying mactaqac is a earthen dam???

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Ralph Green:What's the problem with Mactaquac Generating Station?

Mar 10, 2016 - The earthen dam that retains the Mactaquac headpond is a rock-filled structure sealed with clay and does not have AAR problems. This massive rock structure relies on its weight to resist the force of the river while protecting the clay core that prevents water coming through.

Ralph Green 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: the power generation is concrete. 

 

Claude DeRoche
Name one instance in history where NB Power made the right decision? Only one

Give monetary incentives to municipalities, industry and individuals
and they will invest reducing the burden on the province.

Solar and wind is by far cheaper. Tidal power needs more research.
Mini nuclear reactors when we can't run a full size one?


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Claude DeRoche: Good luck getting an answer

Ray Bungay
Ten years ago the province was fool hearty in not selling NBP to Quebec Hydro. This deal today is a win-win for thevrate payers and for commercial customers like Saint John Energy and gives time to fully implement more wind and solar power so New Brunswick can become energy independent by let’s say 2045 and no to little fossil fuel use. This guy Thomas is leaving this year so he finally has done something right. Higgs did the other right thing in telling NBP no more Joi!

Brian Robertson

Reply to @Ray Bungay:
Pipe dream.
We will be freezing in the dark under that sort of policy.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Brian Robertson: Methinks that what Harper's buddy Rotten Ralphy wished upon we the defeated long ago N'esy Pas?

Mark LeBlanc
We should be talking conservation. We have to redirect the late ‘boomer’ admins to a mentality of conservation. Conservation is a far cry cheaper and environmentally friendly than most, if not all, new energy initiatives.
I renovated and restored an old house in Moncton this past year. We used readily available and average priced products to complete this project. #Enercheck did a before and after assessment of energy requirements. Here is the quote from the report; ‘Your initial report stated that your house rated at 168GJ/year and after implementation of the recommendations your energuide rating improved to 60GJ/year. ...reduce your annual energy consumption by 64.2%.' There is nothing magic about this result. Conservation can bring us a long way before we have to consider upgrading or new energy sources.
Mark E LeBlanc, Sunny Brae.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Mark LeBlanc: Methinks one should balance how old you are and the money spent versus the money to be saved before spending your first dime. For instance at my age in the winter months I would rather use the money to fly to somewhere warm in order to enjoy what time I have left on the planet and return to my shack and enjoy the other 3 seasons where I was born and raised and plan to push up daisies forever afterwards N'esy Pas?

David Peters
"The Mactaquac dam opened in 1968 with an expected service life of 100 years. However, an alkali aggregate chemical reaction in the dam's concrete has been causing the dam to expand over the years, resulting in the expected end of life in 2030. "

...and where did the faulty concrete come from????


Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @David Peters: probably from friends of the party in power.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @David Peters: The cement came down from Quebec but they blame the local aggregate that was mixed with it to make the concrete. However folks should find it interesting that nobody will explain to me all the trouble they are having in Quebec with bridges and overpasses etc that were built in the same time frame. Methinks it could have been bad cement not bad aggregate N'esy Pas?

David Peters 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Not to mention Olympic Stadium in Montreal, which, it has been said, was built from the same concrete...and has since fallen apart.

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Heres a little Deja Vu for the Ghost of the evil lawyer 
Johnny "Never Been Good" Crosbie to enjoy 



2005 01 T 0010

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR

TRAIL DIVISION

BETWEEN: WILLIAM MATTHEWS
PLAINTIFF

AND: BYRON PRIOR
DEFENDANT

AND BETWEEN: BYRON PRIOR
DEFENDANT/PLAINTIFF BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: WILLIAM MATTHEWS
PLAINTIFF/FIRST DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: T. ALEX HICKMAN
SECOND DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: THOMAS MARSHALL
THIRD DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: DANNY WILLIAMS
FOURTH DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: EDWARD M. ROBERTS
FIFTH DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: JOHN CROSBIE
SIXTH DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: PATTERSON PALMER
SEVENTH DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

ORDER

Before the Honourable Chief Justice Green.


Filed January 21, 2005

UPON HEARING Stephen J. May, of Counsel for the Plaintiff, AND UPON
READING the Application and Affidavit filed herein, IT IS HEREBY
ORDERED, until further order of the court, Byron Prior is prohibited
from publishing, causing to have published, distributing or causing
to have distributed the Statement of Defence and Counterclaim pending
the determination of the Applicant's Application to strike the
Statement of Defence and Counterclaim in its entirety, and that the
Court's file in this proceeding is not to be made available for review
by anyone other than the parties or their legal counsel pending the
determination of the Applicant's Application to strike the Statement
of Defence and Counterclaim in its entirety, and that the requirements
relating to the obligations of the Defendants to the Counterclaim to
file Defences are be waived pending the determination of the
Applicant's Application to strike the Statement of Defence and
Counterclaim in its entirety. AND IT IS FURTHER ORDERED THAT the
content of the Statement of Defence and Counterclaim shall not be
published or broadcast in any manner whatsoever until further order of
the court.

AND IT IS HEREBY FURTHER ORDERED that the Application to strike the
Statement of Defence and Counterclaim is scheduled to be heard on
January 26, 2005.

AND IT IS HEREBY FURTHER ORDERED that costs of this Application be
in the cause.

DATED at St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador this 21st day of
January, 2005.

Signed by J. Derek Green, Chief Justice

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/john-crosbie-obituary-1.5413882

John Crosbie dead at 88

Crosbie earned praise — and criticism — for his quick wit, saucy tongue and controversial decisions

John Gushue· CBC News· Posted: Jan 10, 2020 9:15 AM NT

John Crosbie had a remarkable career that took him from St. John's city council to the inner sanctum of Parliament Hill, from fishing wharfs to the negotiating rooms of international trade agreements. He was 88. (CBC)

John Crosbie, a firebrand of a politician who served in several federal cabinet portfolios and who played a dominant role in his beloved Newfoundland and Labrador for decades, has died.

He was 88. He died at 6 a.m., a family member said.

"To Newfoundland and Labrador and to Canada, he was an independent spirit, a passionate nation builder, an orator of biting wit and charm, and always — forever — a tireless fighter for the people," reads a family statement released Friday morning.

"John's is a legacy worth celebrating, a life worth emulating, a name indelibly etched in the history of this place we love."

Crosbie's remains will rest in state the Confederation Building, a rare honour not seen since former premier Joseph R. Smallwood died in 1991. Public visitation will be held at the House of Assembly on Jan. 14-15 from 2 p.m. to 6 p.m. NT.

A televised funeral service will be held at the Anglican Cathedral in St. John's on Jan. 16 at 2 p.m.
Condolences from former prime ministers, colleagues, friends and media personalities alike were plentiful Friday, as news of Crosbie's death spread across the country.

• Condolences pour in following death of N.L. icon John Crosbie

During a remarkable career that took him from St. John's city council to the inner sanctum of Parliament Hill, from fishing wharfs to the negotiating rooms of international trade agreements, Crosbie earned praise — and criticism — for his quick wit, saucy tongue and willingness to make controversial decisions.

Chief among those was a stomach-churning decision to shut down the northern cod fishery off Newfoundland and Labrador in 1992, a decision that instantly put an estimated 30,000 people out of work and triggered what was called the single largest industrial layoff in Canadian history.


John Crosbie tells CBC News in 2017 about his experience in politics, when he says he had to fight for a better compensation package for displaced fisheries workers in 1992. (CBC)

He also oversaw Canada's fateful 1989 free-trade agreement with the United States, championed the Hibernia offshore oil megaproject in the years before its development, and served as a powerful regional minister in an era when cabinet portfolios were allowed that kind of clout. A titan of Tory politics, he was unapologetic about patronage, claiming that appointing qualified supporters to public positions was key to democracy.  

https://youtu.be/4aE-zYUokJE

Crosbie never served as premier of Newfoundland and Labrador nor prime minister, but he was politically ambitious, launching unsuccessful leadership attempts at the provincial and federal levels.

In his later years, he served as Newfoundland and Labrador's lieutenant-governor, a ceremonial role he embraced between 2008 and 2013.

His last major public appearance was in September 2018, when his son Ches Crosbie won a provincial byelection. Ches Crosbie is now the leader of the Opposition Tories in Newfoundland and Labrador's House of Assembly.


Lt.-Gov. John Crosbie in the Newfoundland and Labrador legislature in St. John's March 22, 2010. (The Canadian Press)

Born into privilege 

John Carnell Crosbie was born Jan. 30, 1931, in St. John's to a prominent business family. He overcame the painful shyness of his youth to emerge as a potent political force, with his career in public life stretching from the 1960s through to his final years.

Although known for a caustic wit and a willingness to argue with any political opponent, Crosbie — who trained first as a lawyer — once found public speaking so mortifying that he enrolled in a Dale Carnegie course to muster the courage to speak in public.

His political career accelerated quickly. Crosbie jumped from a seat on St. John's city council to a cabinet seat in the Liberal government of legendary Newfoundland premier Joseph R. Smallwood in 1966.


Lt-Gov. Crosbie, wearing a sealskin coat, and his wife, Jane, greet Prince Charles and Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, at Government House for a tree planting ceremony Nov. 4, 2009, in St. John's. (Ryan Remiorz/The Canadian Press)

But Crosbie resisted becoming a Smallwood protegé, and in 1968 quit cabinet — with future Liberal premier Clyde Wells — over frustrations with a deal Smallwood wanted to make with American industrialist John Shaheen over an oil refinery at Come By Chance.

Crosbie stayed on the sidelines of the provincial Liberals before stepping into a leadership race in 1969 to replace Smallwood. His ambitions were thwarted in bizarre fashion, though, when Smallwood — still the sitting premier — entered the leadership race to replace himself, insisting that Liberals could not trust the young politician he decried as a "merchant princeling."

Crosbie broke ranks with the Liberals and, in a fateful move, jumped to the Progressive Conservatives, helping the once-feeble Newfoundland Tories muster enough strength to topple the 23-year grip on power that Smallwood had enjoyed. With Frank Moores as premier, Crosbie emerged as the de facto powerhouse of the PC government, serving in roles that included finance and government House leader.

By 1976, the lure of federal politics took Crosbie to Ottawa, after he won a byelection in St. John's West — the riding he would represent for most of the next two decades.



Crosbie in the House Of Commons on May 17, 1988. (Chuck Mitchell/The Canadian Press)

In 1979, he was finance minister in Joe Clark's short-lived Tory government, wearing mukluks (rather than the traditional new pair of shoes) to bring in a tough-love budget that included tax increases for what Crosbie called "short-term pain for long-term gain."

Clark's government wound up having a short term, with the NDP putting Crosbie's budget to a non-confidence vote that triggered a new election.

In 1983, Crosbie entered the subsequent PC leadership contest that Clark called to resolve tensions within the party. He wound up placing third, behind Clark and the victor, Brian Mulroney. Crosbie declined to endorse either candidate, and earned attention as the largest defender of free trade in the race. But his campaign came under attack when, defending his inability to speak French, he quipped that he could not speak Mandarin Chinese, either.

Federal front bench 

As a key member of Mulroney's team in the wake of the Tory triumph in the 1984 election, Crosbie held several portfolios in the years to come: justice, transport, international trade and fisheries.

• Far from a temporary move: N.L.'s cod moratorium is 25 years old

• A near miss: Hibernia almost canned before meeting with John Crosbie, former PM Mulroney recalls

A dedicated free trader, Crosbie held the torch for Canada as it negotiated the Free Trade Agreement with the United States. The FTA became the template for NAFTA, the trilateral agreement later reached with Mexico.

His time in Parliament was marked as much by colour and controversy as by his political ambitions.



Federal Fisheries Minister Crosbie confronts fishermen in Bay Bulls on July 1, 1992. (CBC)

"Just quiet down, baby," he told Liberal MP Sheila Copps in an infamous June 1985 exchange in the House of Commons. "I'm not his baby, and I'm nobody's baby," Copps fired back.

Five years later, Crosbie ignited another controversy about Copps when he quoted the lyrics of a Bobby Bare song at a B.C. fundraising dinner. "Pass the tequila, Sheila, and lay down and love me again," he said. Crosbie and Copps, despite the headlines, became friends. She titled her 1986 autobiography Nobody's Baby and he wrote the introduction for her second book, Worth Fighting For, in 2004.

Crosbie frequently earned the ire of feminists — New Democrat Dawn Black, one of what Crosbie called the "four horsewomen of the apocalypse" once called him a "Crosbiesaurus"— but he also held firm to Red Tory beliefs. Pro-choice, Crosbie actually fought in 1990 for the reinstatement of funding that had been cut for women's programs across Canada, and held progressive views on social issues, including protecting LGBT people from discrimination.

Shutting down the fishery

In his final years in cabinet, Crosbie took on the fisheries portfolio — as well as the politically difficult decision to shut down the northern cod fishery on July 2, 1992. The decision came after months of consistently worsening reports of the state of cod stocks, and would be followed by other closures in Atlantic Canadian waters.

The day before, on Canada Day, Crosbie uttered one of his most famous remarks when he was confronted by angry fishermen on the wharf in Bay Bulls.

"Why are you yelling at me? I didn't take the fish from the God damn water," Crosbie yelled back.



Ches Crosbie, right, sits beside his father on Dec. 18, 2014. (The Canadian Press)

It was a sign of Crosbie's clout in cabinet that he was able to deliver a massive compensation package that provided transitional income for about 28,000 people who either fished for a living or worked in fish plants that subsequently closed.

Crosbie retired from federal politics in 1993, the same year the PCs would be not only cleared out of office but reduced to a caucus of just two seats. Crosbie, who thought little of Kim Campbell's leadership, found himself to be the blunt party member who called it the way he saw it after the loss.

"The world knows who's responsible," Crosbie told CBC News. "It's the leader and those immediately around her who advised during the course of the election campaign. They must bear the burden of responsibility."

Semi-public life 

Although Crosbie would toy with the idea of a return to elected office — he briefly entertained the thought of a federal comeback leading into the 2004 election — he found other pursuits after Ottawa.

He wrote a 1997 memoir, No Holds Barred: My Life In Politics, in which he detailed behind-the-scenes exchanges with his former colleagues among the high and mighty. He also acknowledged that his sense of humour could be a liability with some pundits and journalists.



Conservative cabinet minister Crosbie is invested as Officer to the Order of Canada by Gov. Gen. Romeo LeBlanc at a ceremony at Rideau hall in Ottawa in 1999. (Tom Hanson/The Canadian Press)

"I refused to act as though I'd been weaned on a pickle," he wrote, describing how he stood out from other politicians.

"The media, however, wouldn't make the effort to listen to what I was saying or understand what I was doing. Instead, they stereotyped me as a buffoon, an entertainer, a jokester who was incapable of taking serious matters seriously."

Crosbie also found himself bristling at having been often labelled a "loose cannon because I refused to pussyfoot around issues and only say safe, predictable things."

Away from the political limelight, Crosbie returned to a private legal practice, but found new ways to participate in public life.


Prime Minister Jean Chrétien, left, shares a laugh with Crosbie, chancellor of Memorial University, as Chrétien receives an honorary doctor of laws degree in St. John's on May, 24, 2000. (Andrew Vaughan/The Canadian Press)

In 1994, he was named chancellor of Memorial University, a post he held for 14 years.
In 2008, he was appointed lieutenant-governor of Newfoundland and Labrador. His five-year term returned him often to the public eye, albeit in a much more ceremonial fashion.

During his tenure as lieutenant-governor, Crosbie pursued a project of passion: developing a memorial to sealers, particularly those killed in a notorious 1914 disaster. The Home From The Sea centre and memorial was formally unveiled in 2014.

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Bill Brown
Love or hate his politics, there is no denying that he loved NL and played a colourful part in Canadian politics. Rest in peace , sir & my heartfelt condolences to your family and friends.


David Mccaig  

Reply to @Bill Brown:
Never liked the man or his combat politics.

David Mccaig  

Reply to @Bill Brown:
John Crosbie was the first of the new wave of unreasonable perpetually angry conservatives.

Bill Brown 

Reply to @david mccaig: Saorry David, you're missing the Newfoundland sense of humour.

Eugene D Burles

po lit i cal op port u nist

David Mccaig 

Reply to @Bill Brown:
Liberal John Crosbie crossed the floor to be a conservative to keep his pay cheque coming, not out of ideology.

David Mccaig 

Reply to @Bill Brown:
No doubt he was a character and i wish him all the best in his after life, if there is such a thing.

Lorraine Karuse 

Reply to @david mccaig: was he the Sheila taquila remark guy?

April Wong

Reply to @lorraine karuse: Pass the Tequila Sheila, Crosby has left the house ... may his family enjoy rejoicing his life...

Lorraine Karuse 

Reply to @david mccaig: This is OT but didn't see your comment on the story so I am writing it here, if you like to read: Report: Trump Cited GOP Senate Impeachment Pressure As Reason to Kill Soleimani..By Jonathan Chait..nymag.com
Deep inside a long, detailed Wall Street Journal report about President Trump’s foreign policy advisers is an explosive nugget: “Mr. Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate, associates said.” This is a slightly stronger iteration of a fact the New York Times reported three days ago, to wit, “pointed out to one person who spoke to him on the phone last week that he had been pressured to take a harder line on Iran by some Republican senators whose support he needs now more than ever amid an impeachment battle.”

This would not mean Trump ordered the strike entirely, or even primarily, in order to placate Senate Republicans. But it does constitute an admission that domestic political considerations influenced his decision. That would, of course, constitute a grave dereliction of duty. 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @david mccaig: Methinks if folks wish to know some awful truths just Google his name and mine sometime N'esy Pas?

Jack Thompson
We don't have anyone like that anymore. A legend at Dal law school for his brilliance and one of the most entertaining politicians in Canadian history. A sublime wit and intellect we could so badly use on this day.


David Mccaig 

Reply to @Jack Thompson:
In a portion of the country with perpetual high unemployment, John Crosbie solved his problem by becoming a career politician.

David Mccaig 

Reply to @Jack Thompson:
Like ALL career politicians John Crosbie placed his political survival first.

Wayne Gerber

Reply to @david mccaig: A lot of them are. Particularly on the left, at all levels of government.

Patrick Smyth 

Reply to @Wayne Gerber:
"Particularly on the left"

Lost me... Just as making similar generalizations about the "right" would.

Partisan political posturing is for losers.

Wayne Gerber 

Reply to @Patrick Smyth: Not when my statement is blatantly obvious and true.

Wayne Gerber 

Reply to @Patrick Smyth: Yet it triggered your response of 'outrage'

Patrick Smyth 

Reply to @Wayne Gerber:
"Not when my statement is blatantly obvious and true."

Then prove that it is more prevalent among the "left" than anywhere else. You are passing your opinion off as fact. You are dumping a whole bunch of DIFFERENT people with different motivations and life experiences into one group called "the left"

That says everything I need to know about you. I don't and NEVER have generalized about left OR right, yet you excuse and justify generalizing and stereotyping vast numbers of people as if there is some giant conspiracy of "the left"

Only one of us is out of touch with reality and it isn't me.

Wayne Gerber 

Reply to @Patrick Smyth: Yet you attempt to pass yourself off as neutral, but in your attempt to berate me you do nothing else but defend leftist politicians. Call a spade a spade. Most politicians on the left, (unofficial when it comes to municipal politicians) never risked everything to start a business, employed people, innovated etc, but are quick to depict business people as arch capitalist bogeyman. Don't tell me I'm out of touch with reality. Have a great afternoon.

Wayne Gerber 

Reply to @Patrick Smyth: Also if you read what I stated, I was talking about leftist politicians, not peoples personal political beliefs.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Jack Thompson: Trust that not everyone agrees with you

Jeffrey Wayne
A true Canadian and yes one of the real Conservatives.

Karen King

Reply to @Jeffrey Wayne:
he crossed the floor did he not??

David Mccaig 

Reply to @Karen King:
haha! Karen,BAM, KAPOW, WHAMM!

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Jeffrey Wayne: Yea Right

Kate LeBlanc
A mouthy sometimes irreverent Progressive Conservative who actually was able to make me smile,laugh out loud and sometimes agree with.
His ilk have all but disappeared.Thanks for the memories John.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Kate LeBlanc: I have different memories and none of them make me laugh

Kate LeBlanc

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: I didn't mean laugh as in funny

Len Evans
Rest in peace Mr. Crosbie. Your contribution to NL will be remembered.


David Raymond Amos 
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Reply to @Len Evans: I hope he doesn't but trust that I have gone to great length over the years to make certain that he will be remembered Just Google his name and mine to verify what I say is true

Don Mason
Condolences to John's Family and Loved ones.


David Raymond Amos 
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Reply to @Don Mason: They don't have mine

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/04/heres-juggernaut-ches-crosbie-will-have.html

Monday, 22 April 2019

Here's the juggernaut Ches Crosbie will have to fight like hell to overcome 

 

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Methinks old Johnny "Never Been Good" Crosbie and a lot of fat, dumb and happy cops, lawyers, politicians and journalists in Newfoundland know why I am gonna have fun with this election N'esy Pas?


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Here's the juggernaut Ches Crosbie will have to fight like hell to overcome

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David R. Amos
Methinks I should resend an old email then call NL Alliance's Graydon Pelley to see if he remembers me N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

Reply to @David R. Amos: Here is little Deja Vu for folks to enjoy

2005 01 T 0010

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR

TRAIL DIVISION

BETWEEN: WILLIAM MATTHEWS
PLAINTIFF

AND: BYRON PRIOR
DEFENDANT

AND BETWEEN: BYRON PRIOR
DEFENDANT/PLAINTIFF BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: WILLIAM MATTHEWS
PLAINTIFF/FIRST DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: T. ALEX HICKMAN
SECOND DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: THOMAS MARSHALL
THIRD DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: DANNY WILLIAMS
FOURTH DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: EDWARD M. ROBERTS
FIFTH DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: JOHN CROSBIE
SIXTH DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

AND: PATTERSON PALMER
SEVENTH DEFENDANT BY COUNTERCLAIM

ORDER

Before the Honourable Chief Justice Green.  

David R. Amos

Reply to @David R. Amos: Filed January 21, 2005

UPON HEARING Stephen J. May, of Counsel for the Plaintiff, AND UPON
READING the Application and Affidavit filed herein, IT IS HEREBY
ORDERED, until further order of the court, Byron Prior is prohibited
from publishing, causing to have published, distributing or causing
to have distributed the Statement of Defence and Counterclaim pending
the determination of the Applicant's Application to strike the
Statement of Defence and Counterclaim in its entirety, and that the
Court's file in this proceeding is not to be made available for review
by anyone other than the parties or their legal counsel pending the
determination of the Applicant's Application to strike the Statement
of Defence and Counterclaim in its entirety, and that the requirements
relating to the obligations of the Defendants to the Counterclaim to
file Defences are be waived pending the determination of the
Applicant's Application to strike the Statement of Defence and
Counterclaim in its entirety. AND IT IS FURTHER ORDERED THAT the
content of the Statement of Defence and Counterclaim shall not be
published or broadcast in any manner whatsoever until further order of
the court.

AND IT IS HEREBY FURTHER ORDERED that the Application to strike the
Statement of Defence and Counterclaim is scheduled to be heard on
January 26, 2005.

AND IT IS HEREBY FURTHER ORDERED that costs of this Application be
in the cause.

DATED at St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador this 21st day of
January, 2005.

Signed by J. Derek Green, Chief Justice

Gerald Niven
I got a tell ya about my political nightmare…There I was, I found myself unable to move a muscle, while I looked on as Liberals Roger Grimes, Billy Rowe, Eddie Roberts, Rossy Barbour, and Joey Smallwood were sitting around a Holiday Inn room having a séance. Old Joey was leading the séance, and a ghostly image of Chess Crosbie was emerging from a genie bottle, but then… all of a sudden, Dwit Ball appeared and pushed Joey over because Ball was in a tussle head-lock with PC Jim Morgan, better known as Jigger Jim…Then, Liberal Steve Neary of Bell Island fame started in singing Dick Nolan’s hit tune ‘Aunt Martha’s Sheep’… but, the next thing I know, John White from the TV show All Around the Circle fame was fist fisticuffs with Dick Nolan, and yelling at Dwit to let go Jigger Jim… The next thing I know Brian Tobin’s image also started coming out of the genie’s lamp, but like a ravenous wolf, old dip stick, Chess Crosbie, bit off Tobin’s head… Then, old Dwit screamed out, The Writ, the Writ… and, everybody scrambled, while an envelope of insense smoke immersed everybody in the room, and all I could hear was the fading screaming voice of Dwit yelling, “The Dwit, The Dwit”…sounding like that little midget guy from that old 1970’s TV show Fantasy Island yelling, de Plane, Boss… de Plane… Man what a hag… what a nightmare… Maybe, NL is a Fantasy Island…Anyway, fantasy or no fantasy, I’m all messed up…knowing more of who not to vote for, than who to vote for… me-old-stick-in-the-mud 


Mark Mac 

Reply to @Gerald Niven: what’d you eat before bed dude? magic mushrooms?

Patrick David

Reply to @Mark Mac: I wonder what material Gerald's hat is made from ?

Robert G. Holmes

Reply to @Gerald Niven: It's an age thing Gerald. I had similar nightmare, awoke in a sweat, and near died laughing reading your post. You didn't miss much, other than the bog hole GHB fell into while fishing with Craiggy, boys and girls.

David R. Amos 

Reply to @Gerald Niven: Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?

Gerald Niven 

Reply to @Mark Mac: Well Marc, I lapped into some of that NL farmed salmon with a few Blackhorse out in the shed the other night... I don't know if what I ate could have had any of that infectious salmon anemia, what Gerry Byrne calls ISA Salmon, from Gaultois, Hermitage Bay way... Could a been that, alright... I didn't bother to look at it closely for any sea lice or parasites... I mean Gerry Byrne in a news publication said it was fit to eat, and if you can't believe a politician, than who can you believe. right?... Anyway, just to be on the safe side, before I eats anymore, I'm going to write Gerry's office and ask, if he eats any of it..

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Surprise Surprise Surprise

Methinks Minister Mikey sure knows how to keep our fellow Hillbillies Happy Happy Happy N'esy Pas? 



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Shepody Mountain earns conservation protection in surprise announcement

'It was sort of a shocked silence'

Gail Harding· CBC News· Posted: Jan 10, 2020 6:11 PM AT



Mike Holland, minister of Natural Resources and Energy Development and MLA for Albert surprised those at a public meeting in Riverside-Albert by announcing the crown land on Shepody Mountain would be conserved lands. (Water and Environmental Protection for Albert County/Facebook)

People attending a public meeting in Riverside-Albert Thursday night to hear about a nomination to the provincial government to protect Shepody Mountain instead heard a surprise announcement that it would become conserved Crown land.

Mike Holland, minister of Natural Resources and Energy Development and MLA for Albert told those in attendance 700 hectares of Crown land would be set aside as conserved lands.

"Holland said he had just came out of a meeting with industry and he was taking the steps to put the entire 700 hectares of Shepody crown land into conservation protection," said Deborah Carr, a member of the group Water and Environmental Protection for Albert County, or WEPAC.

"It was sort of a shocked silence," she said about the reaction to Holland's announcement. "Then came the but."

Carr said the 'but' is JD Irving Ltd. will be permitted to go in and do a supervised select cut on about 20 hectares (50 acres) of land within the 700 hectares.

While details are still scarce, Carr said WEPAC and community members are now waiting to learn what it all means.

"This has not happened in New Brunswick before. This was a really big thing."

Work to protect the Crown lands on Shepody Mountain began in late summer when landowners became aware JD Irving had plans for a harvest cut on the mountain in the spring of 2020.

"We heard about the cut and we weren't quite sure what to do," said Carr.

Harvest plan prompts action

WEPAC obtained a copy of JDI's harvest plan which Carr said showed the extent of what was going to be cut on the mountain.

"That was a big concern and landowners, especially in that particular area, were concerned with what the impacts could be."

Carr said they also learned this harvest had been approved years before, but no one in the area was made aware of it.



Deborah Carr, a member of the Water and Environmental Protection for Albert County group said Shepody is a landmark mountain. (Contributed by Deborah Carr)

She added, while many wanted the mountain protected, there was no mechanism to increase the amount of conserved land before now.

But with an announcement by Holland in Oct. 2019 of a new federal/provincial initiative to increase conserved lands to 10 per cent before 2021, the group saw an opportunity to nominate Shepody Mountain as one of those areas.

While WEPAC was formed to fight against fracking in the area, the group stayed together after to provide education and advocacy on different issues affecting the environment.

"We decided rather than wait, we'd just jump in and figure it out as we went along," said Carr after WEPAC realized there was no process or guidelines to follow to submit the nomination.

Connection to mountain

"We pulled together what we thought were the highlights of Shepody and how meaningful it was."
Holland, who Carr said told them he was onside with the idea from the start, was invited to hear from local landowners at a meeting organized by WEPAC in December.

"We went around the room and everyone talked about what their connection to Shepody was and what their feelings were on Shepody. It was so moving to see people put into words this deep profound connection they have to this mountain."

While Carr said the group had a strong case for protecting the mountain in the nomination, she believes the tipping point was the support shown by the community.

"There's a very strong generational spiritual connection with this mountain.

"It's a very very special place. You can see it from as far away as Amherst. Shepody is a landmark mountain."

Carr said the threat of logging operations made many people in the community realize how much it meant to them.

"People stood up and just said 'we're not going to sit back and let this happen again'."


Deborah Carr said it was community support that helped secure Shepody Mountain's protection. (Contributed by Deborah Carr)

"There was a gentlemen there from the Nature Trust of New Brunswick and he said, you know, what just happened here tonight he said, this never happens. You know, you don't get what you asked for."

Carr is hopeful this is a precedent for future announcements of protection of provincial Crown lands.
"I'm hoping that this is a change in how we're viewing our forests, less as a commodity and more as the intrinsic value of the forests."

In a written statement, Holland said his government understands the importance of conserving natural areas as part of an overall approach to meeting forest and land management objectives.

"We are working to protect and conserve freshwater, forests and other wild spaces for future generations. We are committed to more than doubling the amount of protected and conserved land in our province, and I'm pleased that 700 hectares in the Shepody Mountain area will be protected."
Holland added there is a process to follow to get this area officially designated, but that work will be starting very soon.

"An important part of that process will be consultation with First Nations. In the meantime, no industrial work will be taking place in this area."

In an email, JDI spokesperson Mary Keith said the company recognized the importance of the mountain and the viewscape it offers.

"We respected the feedback we received and our foresters developed the 50 acre, low touch select harvest area that was designed to protect the viewscape on Shepody Mountain. It is important to note that our proposed harvesting plans for the viewscape area never involved any form of clear cutting and were designed to protect the mountain viewscape."

Keith continued, saying JDI respects Holland's decisions on how to 'achieve the Province's conservation targets and maintain the wood supply.'

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David Raymond Amos
Methinks Holland blinked because it was in his backyard N'esy Pas? 






David Raymond Amos
Methinks folks don't know what to think as they watch the circus these days N'esy Pas?












David Raymond Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise

Methinks Minister Mikey sure knows how to keep our fellow Hillbillies Happy Happy Happy N'esy Pas?













Larry Larson:
There must be nothing Irving needs in the 700 hectares except the 20 they are allowed to destroy! Irving clear cutting needs to stop.


Paul Bourgoin 

Reply to @Larry Larson: Money talks and politicians walk and some Run!

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Larry Larson: Good Point

Matt Steele
The Higgs Govt. seems to be the first govt. in N.B. since the 1980s that has actually started to listen to what the public wants , and has acted on it .I remember back in the 1980s when former Liberal Premier Frank McKenna took all the Crown Land Leases away from the little guys , and gave them to Irving ; and McKenna just laughed when the little guy tried to protest . What a difference the PC govt. is making in how they are actually LISTENING to people . A job well done 


Stephen Robertson

Reply to @Matt Steele: good point Matt!

Roy Nicholl

Reply to @Matt Steele:
The cynical question being, "would there be any listening if there was not a minority government?"

Larry Larson 

Reply to @Roy Nicholl: Nope, that would be the realist's suggestion. Nothing cynical about it. The truth is never cynical.

Paul Bourgoin 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Higgs does not walk on water but does what his financial supporter tells him what to do, and he does.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Larry Larson: Veritas Vincit

Kyle Woodman
Good way for Holland to secure votes. Every PC riding will get a PNA first.


Stephen Robertson 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: watch out for the con trail from the flying cows then!

Kyle Woodman

Reply to @Stephen Robertson: wut

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Methinks the Greens and their liberal cohorts would agree that Minister Mikey was trying to retain votes within his riding N'esy Pas?

Peter Demerchant
Love the line "low touch select harvest". That's great. I urge people to drive the shepody rd from RT 111 to the fundy park rd to see just how " low touch " jdi's forest practices are. But all and all good announcement.



David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Peter demerchant: Smoke and mirrors tis all

Justin Time
Good news! Would have been even better without the "BUT" to appease the masters.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Justin Time: But what would NB without the butt kissers?

Maple Leaf Foods CEO takes aim at U.S. government over downing of PS752 by Iran

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Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks Trump and his cohorts prove on a daily basis that the term "intelligence of nations"is an oxymoron N'esy Pas? 


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/maple-leaf-foods-ceo-takes-aim-at-us.html

 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/maple-leaf-foods-ceo-ps752-us-iran-1.5424530

Maple Leaf Foods CEO takes aim at U.S. government over downing of PS752 by Iran

Michael McCain says he's 'very angry' in Twitter thread mourning loss of colleague's family

The Canadian Press· Posted: Jan 12, 2020 10:07 PM ET



Maple Leafs Foods CEO Michael McCain, pictured here in 2011, posted a series of tweets from the company's official Twitter account lamenting the loss of a colleague's family in the downing of Flight PS752. (The Canadian Press)

The CEO of Maple Leaf Foods spoke out against the United States government days after an Iranian missile accidentally shot down a Ukrainian jetliner, killing all 176 people on board — including, he said, the family of a company employee.

In a series of tweets on Sunday, Michael McCain said the time since Wednesday's crash has not quelled his anger over what he describes as a "needless, irresponsible series of events in Iran." The tweets were sent from the official Maple Leaf Foods account, though McCain characterized them as "personal reflections."

Fifty-seven Canadians were among the 176 people killed on Ukraine International Airlines Flight PS752. There have been vigils and memorials across Canada commemorating the victims, as well as protests calling for de-escalation in the region.

McCain said he feels that "a narcissist in Washington" destabilized the region, ultimately leading to the crash.

Maple Leaf Foods✔@MapleLeafFoods

I’m Michael McCain, CEO of Maple Leaf Foods, and these are personal reflections. I am very angry, and time isn’t making me less angry. A MLF colleague of mine lost his wife and family this week to a needless, irresponsible series of events in Iran...

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9:17 PM - Jan 12, 2020

Flight PS752 was mistakenly shot down minutes after taking off from an airport on the outskirts of Tehran, just hours after Iranian missiles targeted bases where Americans were stationed in Iraq.

They were retaliating for the U.S. killing of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.

• 'All Canadians are mourning': Trudeau attends Alberta vigil for victims of Flight PS752

• CBC in Ukraine
  Ukrainian investigators say they knew 'within hours' a missile had downed PS752

Iran has admitted the plane was mistaken for a hostile target amid those soaring tensions with the United States, after first pinning the crash on a mechanical failure.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said Iran must take full responsibility for shooting down the plane.
He said that must include a full and credible investigation, but he's steered clear of pinning the crash on the Americans.

"I think it is too soon to be drawing conclusions or assigning blame or responsibility in whatever proportions," he told reporters last week.

• 'In the blink of an eye': After a whole family dies on Flight PS752, what happens with what's left behind?

McCain said he's both livid and mourning for his colleague's wife and 11-year-old son, who were killed on the plane.

Maple Leaf Foods✔@MapleLeafFoods

 · 13h

Replying to @MapleLeafFoods

…U.S. government leaders unconstrained by checks/balances, concocted an ill-conceived plan to divert focus from political woes. The world knows Iran is a dangerous state, but the world found a path to contain it; not perfect but by most accounts it was the right direction…

Maple Leaf Foods✔@MapleLeafFoods

..A narcissist in Washington tears world accomplishments apart; destabilizes region. US now unwelcomed everywhere in the area including Iraq; tensions escalated to feverish pitch. Taking out despicable military leader terrorist? There are a hundred like him, standing next in line

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9:17 PM - Jan 12, 2020

CBC News reached out to McCain for further comment. In response, Janet Riley, the company's vice-president of communications and public affairs, said in an email that McCain "would prefer to let the messages in his tweets speak for themselves. He felt the tragedy warranted his response."

With files from CBC News

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4669 Comments






Awistoyus Nahasthay
Most Canadians agree with McCain.


Andre Legault

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
What we know from your post is that you agree with him. The rest is speculation.

Jed Eckert  

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
Wide sweeping statements have no validity.

Fred Barchetta 

Reply to @Jed Eckert:
Oh the irony.......

Andre Legault 

Reply to @Jed Eckert:
After posting that you know Mcain did this to sell more products?Really?

Eric Gulapa 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: please share your stats sources

Brendan Burke  

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: no they dont

Hay Lowe 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: not likely

Andre Legault  

Reply to @Brendan Burke:
I think what you mean is that you don't agree.

Brendan Burke 

Reply to @Andre Legault: Actually, I'll rephrase it by saying that anyone with any sense would not agree

Andre Legault   

Reply to @Brendan Burke:
Again all your saying is that you agree. You can't know what anyone with any sense thinks.

John Hancock 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: no they don’t.

Mitchell Roberts 

Reply to @John Hancock: Yes they do.

Lee Hall

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: 


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Dan Shortt 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
Most readers at this website think exactly what they're told to think, by Michael McCain, or by anyone, for that matter. Right now, 46 people agree with you. Most assuredly, that isn't "Most Canadians."

Herb Weber 

Reply to @Dan Shortt: Make that 49 - just added my "vote". Most Canadians are neither confirmed Cold Warriors, nor LPCers.

Steve Wilson

Reply to @Dan Shortt: ... yes, attack the reasonable, great response! 

 

Lorraine Karuse

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: To save himself from Impeachment. Here is one article quoting The Wall St Journal and New York Times
" Trump Cited GOP Senate Impeachment Pressure As Reason to Kill Soleiman"
Deep inside a long, detailed Wall Street Journal report about President Trump’s foreign policy advisers is an explosive nugget: “Mr. Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate, associates said.” This is a slightly stronger iteration of a fact the New York Times reported three days ago, to wit, “pointed out to one person who spoke to him on the phone last week that he had been pressured to take a harder line on Iran by some Republican senators whose support he needs now more than ever amid an impeachment battle.”

This would not mean Trump ordered the strike entirely, or even primarily, in order to placate Senate Republicans. But it does constitute an admission that domestic political considerations influenced his decision. That would, of course, constitute a grave dereliction of duty. - nymag.com

Lorraine Karuse 

Reply to @Andre Legault: McCain's views are supported by FACTS
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/report-trump-cited-impeachment-pressure-to-kill-soleimani.html

Brendan Burke 

Reply to @Andre Legault: you're speaking in riddles now lol

Steve LaFramboise

Reply to @lorraine karuse: nymag is like quoting Fox News...

Maybe check out Some other “analysis” ..?

Richard Jay 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
I don't.

First of all, "The CEO of Maple Leaf Foods spoke out against the United States government days after an Iranian missile accidentally shot down a Ukrainian jetliner"

Since when does the US control Iranian missiles?

Also, "U.S. government leaders unconstrained by checks/balances, concocted an ill-conceived plan to divert focus from political woes".

Really? You agree with that? The US planned for Iran to take down a plane to divert focus from political woes? That doesn't seem just a little far fetched? Exactly what political woes anyhow? An impeachment that doesn't seem to be going anywhere? The Russian collusion nonsense that and FBI investigation found nothing?

Richard Jay 

Reply to @lorraine karuse:
"McCain's views are supported by FACTS
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/report-trump-cited-impeachment-pressure-to-kill-soleimani.html";

That link does not report facts but nice try. If you read it and see "This is a slightly stronger iteration of a fact the New York Times reported three days ago" you would know that. NYT is propaganda and proven to be many times.

Wayne Taylor

Reply to @Richard Jay: Ignorance is bliss.

Douglas Holden 

Reply to @Richard Jay:
Donald Trump initiated these latest incidents with Iran to distract from his impeachment and his incompetence as president, with zero regard for the consequences. That plane being shot down was one of the consequences. Most Canadians know who initiated all this and why.

Richard Jay

Reply to @Wayne Taylor:

"Ignorance is bliss."

It sure is. Hopefully you can over come it.

Richard Jay

Reply to @Douglas Holden:

"Donald Trump initiated these latest incidents with Iran to distract from his impeachment and his incompetence as president"

Nonsense. That's a conspiracy theory and a silly one at best.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Richard Jay: I disagree

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Andre Legault: Methinks we should ask Bill Morneau what he has to say N'esy Pas?

Peter Ray 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
No.

Only the bleeding hearts and those who wish OUR way of life to disappear.

The rest of well-adjusted, intelligent and educated Canada does not.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: True or False?

"Nancy McCain is an heir to the privately held multi-billion dollar McCain Foods empire co-founded by her late father Andrew McCain and three uncles, Harrison, Wallace and Bob (all deceased). Nancy McCain's husband, Bill Morneau is Canada's finance minister and previously was executive chairman of the billion dollar human resource consultancy, Morneau Shepell, which his father William Morneau Sr founded. Her brother, Allison McCain is the current Chairman of McCain Foods, Nancy's cousin is Michael McCain who is CEO and the largest shareholder of the $4 billion Canadian food giant, Maple Leaf Foods. Little is known about the distribution of profits from the McCain company to family members. Public Court filings showed that at least one of Wallace McCain's children, Nancy's cousin, receives an annual $4.25 million tax free capital dividend. Public records show that Bill Morneau received compensation in excess of $1 million prior to his resignation from his company to become Canada's finance minister. While strict conflict of interest rules apply to Morneau's personal holdings in his capacity as finance minister, they do not apply to the personal holdings of Nancy McCain and by extension McCain Foods." 

Douglas Holden

Reply to @Richard Jay:
We all watched this happen in real time. While I’m sure there are many “backroom details” we’re not privy to, in no way was it a conspiracy. Trump did it in plain sight, because he knows by now his employers and enablers will cover for him. Reports from those in the room have said he didn’t even know who the drone strike was targeting. That’s because he didn’t care, so long as it did exactly what it’s doing: distract. It’s his one trick, he’s done it over and over, and this is just the latest disgusting example. Pizzagate was a “conspiracy theory”. This is global diplomacy as practiced by someone who could not care less about anyone else on the globe. 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Douglas Holden: I agree

Matthew Smith 

Reply to @Richard Jay: I agree. 0 proof has yet to be presented. Only the sequence of events which still have fully not been revealed are used.

Brendan O'Fecalith 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: McCain certainly speaks for me on this, and for most of the people I have spoken with about it. Only his language is more measured.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Brendan O'Fecalith: Me Too

Aaron Morris
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
Most Canadians aren't so obtuse to see this as a black and white issue. Both sides are to blame, however one side physically destroyed a passenger plane. 


Tina Falco
Reply to @lorraine karuse:
That's one view, this is another and more likely:

With Suleimani Assassination, Trump is Doing the Bidding of Washington’s Most Vile Cabal

by Jeremy Scahill, January 3, 2020

Tina Falco

Reply to @Peter Ray:
Still peddling 9/11 talking points?

Tina Falco

Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
So Bill Morneau got indirectly dragged into this? Awesome.

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Tina Falco: Methinks its just another one of those things I do that my political opponents fail to appreciate N'esy Pas? 

 

Douglas Holden
Reply to @Aaron Morris:
That’s a bit like parents watching one sibling smash the toy of another sibling, the other sibling throwing a punch in retaliation, then the parents blame them both for the dust up. Would the punch have been thrown if the toy were still intact? Of course not.

Tina Falco

Reply to @Aaron Morris:
Canadians have been given a gift to learn about the US shenanigans used in manufacturing consent for wars, yet some choose to remain obtuse.

Why not accept the gift instead?

The L iar s that Led Us to War
January 10, 2020

Tina Falco

Reply to @David Raymond Amos:

Yup.  

David Allan  

Reply to @Brendan Burke:
"Actually, I'll rephrase it by saying that anyone with any sense would not agree"

Anyone with any sense can see that Trump's illegal assassination is what caused this.

David Allan  

Reply to @Lee Hall:
"We are aligned with US foreign policy almost 100% and the US oligarchy that determines it."

No we aren't.
You just made that up.

When did Canada express support for Trump's illegal assassination?

Norm Dixon 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: On the contrary, most Canadians can think for them selves. Is it Trumps fault that Iran are shooting protestors too? We are all responsible for our own actions!!!

David Allan 

Reply to @Steve LaFramboise:
"nymag is like quoting Fox News... "

What about WSJ?
Are you going to attack them too?

David Allan  

Reply to @Richard Jay:
"Since when does the US control Iranian missiles? "

Attempting to disassociate the cause from the effect is disingenuous at best.

If Trump hadn't illegally assassinated Iran's general in an act of war, this wouldn't have happened.

Perry Best 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: "Most Canadians agree with McCain."
It seems that a lot of Iranians are putting their lives on the line to agree with Mr. Trump.

Graham Godlien 

Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: when I wrote this .... at best only 133 Canadians agree ...

Tina Falco 

Reply to @David Allan:
Nope..Lee did not make that up, die hard Liberals however, just won't admit it.

Canada supports US in all their foreign adventures, the US even boasted about how we adopted an America First Policy.

Yet unlike you, I won't tell you to get a clue.

Michael Trebych 

Reply to @Perry Best: Then why were they outraged when the General was assassinated? Yours is an utterly lame defense that thinks lives lost in an election bid is acceptable. Despicable

Tina Falco 

Reply to @Norm Dixon:
Protesters like MeK? A group that Bolton, Giuliani and even Harper rallied to overthrow the Iranian government?

Now why would Bolton, Giuliani and even Harper want to do that? 
 

Toby Mockler
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: If you're taking a poll, this Canadian does not agree with him.


Bell Woo 

Reply to @toby mockler: this canuck does however...

Doug Mackenzie
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
Most Canadians are worried about the Habs, the Leafs, Jets, etc.
















Mannie Salado
I agree with the man. The seminal moment in this path to disaster was the day Trump welshed on the nukes deal.


Jed Eckert

Reply to @Mannie Salado:
You can't twist facts to suit your narrative.

Mannie Salado 

Reply to @Jed Eckert: So what do you see as the defining moment of this latest Iran crisis?

Jed Eckert 

Reply to @Mannie Salado:
There is no single defining moment.

Grant Bryck 

Reply to @Mannie Salado: how far do you want to fo back....1979??

Mannie Salado 

Reply to @Jed Eckert: correct....every incident since 1979 is a single issue in a history of conflict in the region.

Mannie Salado 

Reply to @Grant Bryck: You think Trump never untied his yellow ribbon, and all this is revenge for the hostage crisis?

Mannie Salado  

Reply to @Grant Bryck: Why not go back to Mossadegh and his American engineered removal? My pont is, it looked like the peace pipe had been smoked when the nukes deal was signed...but Trump felt otherwise.

Grant Bryck  

Reply to @Mannie Salado: Geez, a lot happened between then and now.

Grant Bryck  

Reply to @Mannie Salado: how can you say that when the General continues his control of the Iranian les proxy attacks, while the deal was inforced

Mannie Salado 

Reply to @Grant Bryck: I've been clear in my view...this latest chapter began with Trump's welsh on the nukes deal. You can decide for yourself when your chapters begin and end.

Grant Bryck  

Reply to @Mannie Salado: that's the underlying issue, where is the root cause... Complete an analysis and it starts way before OM.

 

Mannie Salado  

Reply to @Grant Bryck: Whatever you say.

Mannie Salado  

Reply to @Grant Bryck: Tell me this...in your estimation, if America had kept their word and not betrayed the Iran deal, would tensions be so high in the Gulf that civilian aircraft would be mistaken for cruise missiles?

Lee Hall 

Reply to @Mannie Salado: 


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Lee Hall 

Reply to @Lee Hall: 


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Henry Lin 

Reply to @Jed Eckert: What facts are twisted? Can't just say that without meaning anything.

Henry Lin 

Reply to @Grant Bryck: Root cause? Uhm the root is Trump. Why? You want to blame this on Carter or Reagan?

John Hancock 

Reply to @Mannie Salado: yea the Iranians just shot down an aircraft full of civilians. Without a doubt in my mind we should have allowed them to have nuclear capabilities... hahaha

Mannie Salado 

Reply to @John Hancock: Dont go too far down that road. The Americans and the Russians...twice...have shot down civilian aircraft in military misadventure.

Steve LaFramboise 

Reply to @Mannie Salado: I bet the Iranian government doesn’t make a stamp commemorating this one, though.

Lorraine Karuse 

Reply to @Mannie Salado: Saudis appeased Trump by inviting him, treating him like a King and BUYING $Billions in defense equipment. Saudis and Kushner then set their site on sidelining Iran(Sunni - Shia rivalry, Israel - Iran).

Douglas Holden 

Reply to @Jed Eckert:
Ah yes, the inevitability of history. “That gun would have went off whether the assassin picked it up or not,”. That’s how WW1 started. The gun did it.

Steve LaFramboise  

Reply to @lorraine karuse: so Soleimani tried to hire Iraqi militias to attack embassies, to try to win over the angry citizens.

The US killed Soleimani and brought the country together against the US.

Then the Iran military made a mistake, which they compounded with a few days of lies, to try to control the protesters.

The best outcome would be that the Iranians can get this regime out and implement some form of democracy, although the US and Iran’s current regime will both continue to try to use the citizens as pawns.

Karl Gauss

Reply to @Mannie Salado: :"The seminal moment in this path to disaster was the day Trump welshed on the nukes deal." Right on, it's time to nuke Wales!!

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Mannie Salado: I concur

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Jed Eckert: Methinks an irrefutable fact is that Trump did welsh on the nukes deal N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Mannie Salado: "So what do you see as the defining moment of this latest Iran crisis?"

Trump's impeachment

Mannie Salado

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Trump choking on a too big bite of Big Mac, and slowly tuning a darker and darker shade of blue as no one came to his rescue. 

 

Mannie Salado
Reply to @Grant Bryck: What do you mean by "proxy attacks"?

Tina Falco

Reply to @Steve LaFramboise:

"...get this regime out and implement some form of democracy."

First, the west is no shining example of "democracy".

Second, not aware of how that turned out the other 5, 10, 20 times? 


Perry Best
Reply to @Mannie Salado: "I agree with the man. The seminal moment in this path to disaster was the day Trump welshed on the nukes deal."
So you disagree with the intelligence from many other nations saying that Iran was already welshing on the nukes deal?


Mannie Salado

Reply to @Perry Best: The intelligence of what nations were saying that? 

Terri Payne

Reply to @Steve LaFramboise:
Re: your statement that "The best outcome would be that the Iranians can get this regime out and implement some form of democracy", the same applies to the U.S. as well!

Mannie Salado 

Reply to @Terri Payne: And it shows a complete ignorance of politics in Iran. The last elections brought a solid win for the moderates and liberals...a victory Trump refused to recognize in any way. 
 

 

Tina Falco

Reply to @Mannie Salado:
Grant is conflating the facts.

While JCPOA was honoured, there was Yemen, Iraq, Syria...all the US adventures (including through their own proxies) of toppling governments, still going on.

This, along with the arming and support of Daesh, al Qaeda and al Nusra, was met with push back from Iran through Soleimani.


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Mannie Salado: Methinks Trump and his cohorts prove on a daily basis that the term "intelligence of nations"is an oxymoron N'esy Pas? 

 

Mannie Salado
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: D'accord.




















Pat George
I support Michael McCain’s opinions wholeheartedly. He hit the nail on the head.


Will Woods 

Reply to @Pat George: your right, it is easier to virtue signal than articulate a rational point.

Jed Eckert 

Reply to @Will Woods:
And think of the profits ML may reap from the attention and supporters of the CEO'S words.

Brendan Burke 

Reply to @Pat George: I'm sure his American share holders will disagree with you

Roger O' Malley 

Reply to @Pat George: Good, now maybe you can support him and buy more of his companies product because I won't. I've avoided that food for a long time and for good reason I assure you...

Martin Schulte 

Reply to @Pat George: To bad the supporters of Predator Trump are so immersed in their echo chamber/propaganda that they can't see the man for what he truly is. Judge his own words, and his actions, and any reasonable person can see he is not fit for the office of the President.

Matthew Smith 

Reply to @Will Woods: Nailed it.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Pat George: YUP

David Allan
Reply to @Jed Eckert:
"And think of the profits ML may reap from the attention and supporters of the CEO'S words."

Check the share price to learn you're wrong.
Facts matter.

Interveners dubious over NB Power's revamped smart meter plan as EUB hearings begin

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Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks everybody knows that Minister Mikey or his boss Higgy can stop the "Not So Smart" Meter nonsense with a simple phone call or a stroke of a pen if need be N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/interveners-dubious-over-nb-powers.html 



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-eub-hearings-1.5425284

Interveners dubious over NB Power's revamped smart meter plan as EUB hearings begin

Utility comes back in front of regulatory board claiming greater savings

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Jan 13, 2020 4:53 PM AT




NB Power has returned to the EUB with a revised smart meters proposal. A similar bid was rejected by the regulator in 2017. (Robert Jones/CBC)

Claims made by NB Power about the financial benefits of installing smart meters for its entire customer base as part of a $92 million advanced metering infrastructure, or AMI, project were quickly under scrutiny at hearings in front of the Energy and Utilities Board on Monday.

But the utility is holding firm in its argument the switch is required and will save it and ratepayers millions of dollars.

"AMI will help us operate more efficiently and reduce costs while offering important direct benefits for our customers," said Senior NB Power Vice president Lori Clark in an opening statement for what is expected to be an eight day examination of the proposal by NB Power's regulator.

"We hope you will agree that we need to invest in AMI now," Clark told the three member panel hearing the proposal. "There is no "do nothing" option."


Lori Clark, NB Power's senior vice president of operations, says the utility can prove smart meters can save ratepayers $31 million. (CBC)

A similar application by the utility in 2017 was eventually rejected by the EUB at hearings in 2018 because it failed to convince the board the investment would generate a net financial gain — a key issue again  this time.

"The demonstrated benefits to ratepayers must outweigh the expected costs that ratepayers will bear," the EUB ruled in rejecting NB Power's first application

• Can NB Power deploy smart meters within its proposed budget?

This time, however, NB Power claims it has improved the application enough so that the "net present value" of benefits from adopting smart meters over 15 years will be $31.1 million more than costs.

"We took the feedback we received from this Board during the AMI hearing in 2018 and worked with a number of industry experts to explore potential savings and costs that we had not previously considered," said Clark in explaining the improved numbers.


Interveners scrutinized NB Power's new smart meter plan on the first day of hearings in front of the EUB. (CBC)

But shortly after Clark's opening statement, the lawyer for J.D. Irving Ltd. began questioning NB Power's calculation of benefits and whether they might be exaggerated.

Drawing on two expert evaluations of NB Power's plan commissioned by the EUB and public intervener Heather Black, Christopher Stewart raised questions about whether NB Power was underestimating the cost of disposing of existing non-smart meters before their useful life is over and overestimating its own ability to keep the project on budget.

• Experts throw cold water on NB Power's projections for smart meters

He also questioned whether some of the benefits of switching out old analog meters that are suspected of undercounting electricity consumption by homeowners as they age might be solved by adopting cheaper non smart digital meters.

"What's your position with respect to that?" asked Stewart.

Stephanie Langlais, a finance executive with NB Power, rejected the validity of some of Stewart's questions but did acknowledge the benefits of smart meters might be over stated in the business case by not comparing them to the installation of non-smart digital meters.

"The result is a reduction in the net present value of this benefit by $3.2 million," said Langlais.
 

Stephanie Langlais, a finance executive with NB Power, speaks before the three-member EUB panel Monday. (CBC)

NB Power executives told the hearing they know a number of people are wary of smart meters  and said a switch will not be mandatory but customers will likely have to pay a $4 per month penalty to cover the cost of having their meter read.

"A very small minority of customers will remain unconvinced, and that is why we have proposed an opt-out process," said Clark.

"Although this small minority can be very vocal, they do not represent the views of the silent majority. NB Power has a responsibility to act in the best interests of all its customers."

• Saint John energy questions smart meters as NB Power pushes for tech

Gerald Bourque, a private citizen and smart meter opponent who registered to participate in the hearing, asked specifically if the units are a fire hazard, based on the recall of 105,000 smart meters in Saskatchewan in 2014.

NB Power's Jill Doucett told Bourque the fires that triggered the Saskatchewan recall are now well understood and have been addressed with new safety features in current models.

"We have reviewed the experience of Saskatchewan and the investigation that was conducted post the installation of the meters and the fires that resulted and in that report there were a number of recommendations we have adhered to," said Doucett.

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David Raymond Amos 
Surprise Surprise Surprise 













David Raymond Amos
Methinks Higgy and Minister Mikey must understand why I holler BINGO so much lately N'esy Pas?













Brad Little
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 Wow. Looking at this comment board, the "silent majority" is REALLY SILENT


David Raymond Amos 

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Reply to @Brad Little: Not really it just that many comments are blocked

Fred Brewer
"This time, however, NB Power claims it has improved the application enough so that the "net present value" of benefits from adopting smart meters over 15 years will be $31.1 million more than costs." How can we trust NB Power's due diligence in this matter after the total failure of their due diligence on Joi Magic Beans?

Ben Haroldson

Reply to @Fred Brewer: you don't have to get that complicated to know what's up. Kiss.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: The leader of the KISS party Gerald Bourque who is now just a private citizen and still smart meter opponent who registered to participate in the hearing, asked specifically if the units are a fire hazard, based on the recall of 105,000 smart meters in Saskatchewan in 2014.

Michael Durant
The levels of electromagnetic frequencies (EMF) given off by these new meters are weapon's grade and exceed ( by several magnitudes) safe levels of EMF exposure for human health as determined by researchers and scientists at the University of Montreal and around the world


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Michael durant: Methinks folks should pay attention to Roger Richard's experts who will testify next week before the EUB N'esy Pas?

Bob Smith
Bit surprised they didn't say that for every home owner who agrees to smart meter installation, they get shares in JOI Scientific....


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Bob Smith: We already have them

David Raymond Amos
There are no saving to be made by investing more money into a product. It does not reduce your power consumption, it does not reduce the cost of the energy. All it does is permit NB Power to charge more for what they call "Premium Power" at times likely less convenient for the home owner. There is technology out there that provide the same services as a smart meter but discloses the data only to the home owner so they can adjust their usage. (I use one that can report power consumption in 1/2 second intervals so I can see the immediate impact of certain appliances.) In all reports in the last few years the majority of home owners cannot alter their power usage enough to make a significant difference on their bills It does let them choose more efficient appliances, but that only produces a fractional savings for the owner. The only reason NB Power wants smart meters is to provide justification to charge the home owner more! period! If NB Power thinks they can save money with Smart Meters I would be happy to let them subscribe (for a fee) to my data.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Roger Thompson: Well put

David Raymond Amos

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Reply to @Roger Thompson: NB Power Speaking of Data

New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board

Matter 430

IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation
for approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year
commencing April 1, 2019, and other relief as outlined in NB Power’s
application

Held at the Algonquin Hotel, St. Andrews, N.B., on May 11 24th 2019.

Page 729

MR. RUSSELL: Yes. I would like to add a comment. I totally agree with
what Mr. Todd has said.

Page 730
The one thing I would like to remind or mention to the Board is that
we are very concerned about the data, the load research data, that is.
And it seems the problem might be viewed as greater than what it is
because there are many jurisdictions that conduct a cost of service
study and do it on a -- every third year or a fifth year interval. We
just happen to be ramping this up and doing a cost of service every
year. So it appears as if we are coming back with no, you know, bad
data again.
And while there might be a question about the data and how fresh it
is, I think it is important to keep in mind that when we do rate
design, you can look at cost -- the revenue to cost ratios on a
different interval, you know, a three, five year interval and then set
your rate design plan for that interval and gradually work your
classes towards the certain direction that you want to go in.
So having data that’s a little over two years old, while it is not
ideal, you know, you would like to have the fresh data, but it’s not
-- I don’t see it as being too, too grave in terms of what it might do
for the results. We know that with AMI, yes, it’s going to be a lot
better if we get to go with AMI. And we are going to need to start
planning, you know, for the scenario that 

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @David Raymond Amos:

Page 731
we may have AMI or may not have AMI, and what we might have to do. And
so it’s going to take a couple -- probably two, three years before we
get some fresh data.
So I just want to caution the Board in that while the accuracy of the
number may not be 100 percent because you don’t have the latest data,
having two year old data is not that bad, you know, given the
circumstance you would find yourself in if you compare with other
jurisdictions.
MR. TODD: Yes, and I reinforce that because I do do work, cost
allocation studies across -- in many jurisdictions across Canada, out
west. Other than jurisdictions where the companies have smart meters
and therefore have -- you know, that is part of AMI, the precision of
the New Brunswick Power CCS and the use of the load profile
information, you are ahead of all the other companies that I am aware
of, which would be four or five. So I mean, you shouldn’t feel like
you are falling behind your peers in this jurisdiction.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: BINGO

David Raymond Amos
Methinks everybody knows that Minister Mikey or his boss Higgy can stop the "Not So Smart" Meter nonsense with a simple phone call or a stroke of a pen if need be N'esy Pas?

Brian Robertson

Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Probably.
But as we see here, NB Power's strategy seems to be the long game; and just bring it back with the next government.
If conservation reduces demand, and our population stagnant, their revenue will depend on increasing the cost of power through smart meter penalties.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Brian Robertson: They already signed the contracts for "Not So Smart" meters Hence they can't back out without penalties.

Greg Miller

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Then they should pay the penalties and someone should pay the price personally at NB Power. Really--are our elective officials afraid of NB Power--does NB Power have some hold over our elected officials. Time to get some intestinal fortitude Government!

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Greg Miller: Trust that I made certain that Higgy and his cohorts knew about this "Not So Smart" Meter nonsense long before the last election

IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation
for approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year
commencing April 1, 2018. held at the Delta Hotel, Saint John, New
Brunswick, on February 9th 2018.

Transcript Page 601
VICE-CHAIRMAN: I was a bit surprised when I heard this morning and
yesterday that you are entering into a contract at the end of February
and is that with respect to the purchase of the smart meters?
MS. CLARK: That's correct.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: So how can you enter into a contract without the firm
approval of this Board, if we are going to approve or not the AMI? How
prudent is that?
MS. CLARK: So we are at the end stages of the contract in terms of
just the final terms and conditions, but we have been very clear that
we -- with the vendor -- and they recognize that, because we also have
Nova Scotia Power, who is part of our consortium, who also needs Board
approval. So should we not get -- this is conditional on EUB approval.
So should we not get EUB approval, the contract would not proceed.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Now there was discussion yesterday, I think it was with
Mr. Stoll regarding time of use and time based pricing, and so I went
through the evidence this morning, and in your main evidence, and I
think one of the objective of having the AMI going forward to a time
of use price structure -- rate structure. So am I understanding that
correctly

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Continued

MS. CLARK: That is correct. And in the evidence, we did answer an
interrogatory on that and you will see that AMI is an enabler for time
varying rates in the Energy Smart NB Plan. And we did have time
varying rates included in our investment rationale. We took it out,
because we couldn't -- we couldn't pinpoint without more detail as to
what those time varying rates may be and the benefit of those, so we
took them out of the investment rationale at this point in time, but
certainly it's something that we are looking at in the future
VICE-CHAIRMAN: So the fundamental question here is that the Board
should heard -- or hear Matter 357 before approving the AMI? So if we
don't approve time of use, that basically what will happen with your
AMI, I mean it's -- if we don't approve the time of use, which we are
going to hear next year, how can we proceed in approving the AMI
before we look at the rate structure?
MS. CLARK: As we have talked about in our investment rationale, there
are a number of other benefits to both the customer and to the utility
over and above time varying rates that we believe are important for
the utility and for the movement forward of our Energy Smart New
Brunswick plan. Many of those benefits accrue to the customer. And
many of those benefits accrue to the utility and ultimately the
customer. So even if we were not to move in the direction of time
varying rates, we believe that the investment rationale supports the
AMI installation based on the other investment -- or based on the
other benefits that it provides

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 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/karen-ludwig-saint-croix-byelection-1.5426607

Former Liberal MP Karen Ludwig plans to run in upcoming provincial byelection

Will seek Liberal nomination for Saint Croix riding, motivated, in part, by reports PCs may close small labs

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Jan 14, 2020 5:06 PM AT




Karen Ludwig, elected MP for New Brunswick Southwest in 2015, was defeated in her bid for a second term in last fall's federal election. (CBC)


Former Liberal Member of Parliament Karen Ludwig is jumping into what could be a pivotal byelection race in the provincial riding of Saint Croix.

Ludwig, who represented New Brunswick Southwest in the House of Commons for four years before losing her seat last fall, will seek the Liberal nomination for the unscheduled byelection.

She said her decision was prompted in part by reports that the Progressive Conservative minority government is looking at health reforms that could close testing laboratories in small hospitals, including in St. Stephen.

"That's too much," Ludwig said. "That's really significant to people here. I know a number of people in Charlotte County who have chronic disease. They're in for lab testing weekly, and even to consider cutting that is out of touch with what people need."

Ludwig lost last fall to Conservative John Williamson, though she won a number of polls in Saint Andrews, where she lives, and St. Stephen. The two ridings are the largest communities in the provincial riding.

• Liberal win in Saint Croix byelection would trigger provincial election, Higgs says

• PC riding president resigns after party bars potential St. Croix candidate

She said it was natural that she would win support from her closest neighbours.

But she said many who voted against her federally told her privately they liked her but could not support her leader, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

"Just after the election, people were reaching out to me daily asking me if I would re-offer, and then when there were some of the changes being proposed by the Higgs government, people were asking me if I would run provincially," she said.

Premier Blaine Higgs will announce the date for the byelection in Saint Croix and in Shediac Bay-Dieppe in March, though he can choose to hold the votes months later.

Former journalist Kathy Bockus is the only candidate for the PC nomination. The People's Alliance has nominated wildlife biologist Rod Cumberland and the Greens plan to nominate a candidate soon.

Another Liberal to seek nomination

No date has been set for the Liberal nomination. One other person, St. Stephen resident Tony Mann, has said he will seek the party nod.

If the PCs or Alliance don't win Saint Croix, Higgs would lose his ability to get bills and budgets passed in the legislature.

The Alliance has pledged to prop up the Tories but combined they have only a two-vote margin over the Liberals and Greens without the Liberal speaker voting.

Higgs said in December that a Liberal win in Saint Croix would therefore force him to call a provincial election. "I wouldn't have a choice," he said.

"The decision [for voters in Saint Croix] is probably not so much, 'Do I support the Alliance over the PCs,' or vice versa? It's, 'Do I really want to take a chance of the Liberals getting back in government?'"

'It's about serving'

Ludwig said she was undaunted by that threat, saying that doesn't diminish issues like health-care cuts and a PC economic development policy she says is focused on large cities.

"Whether it's an election or not an election, it's about serving the people first and foremost," she said. "And I can tell you I'm really tired of people who are focusing on an election or an election cycle. I never thought like that when I was a politician."

But she also suggested voters will want an MLA with experience who would play a role in a future Liberal government.

"What they're looking at is not only today but also tomorrow, and they need strong and experienced representation to have a voice at that table," she said, citing her role on a House of Commons committee on international trade during the renegotiation of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico free trade agreement.




Greg Thompson, the former PC MLA for Saint Croix, died of cancer on Sept. 10 after a long career in federal and provincial politics. (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)

Saint Croix has been without a member of the legislature since the death of MLA Greg Thompson last September.

Shediac Bay-Dieppe has been vacant since former premier Brian Gallant resigned his seat last October.

The PCs have 21 seats in the legislature and the Liberals have 19, not including Speaker Daniel Guitard, who does not vote unless there is a tie. The People's Alliance and the Greens have three MLAs each.

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David Raymond Amos
Methinks tradition dictates that the Speaker is supposed to vote with the government if there is a tie Hence as long as Guitard keeps his job Higgy continues to oversee the circus even if the liberals won both seats N'esy Pas? 



















Gerry Ferguson
Nobody votes in byelections. If she can get a bus load of relatives to the polling booth she can probably get back on the government dime


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Gerry Ferguson: Methinks that is usually the case but this one is gonna be a circus for folks to participate in just as this and the other articles attest N'esy Pas? 

 

Lou Bell
And yet she would support a government who had it's 110 million dollar underhanded giveaway stifled ONLY because they got beat !


David Raymond Amos  

Reply to @Lou Bell: Cry me a river

Ned MacAllister
That David R Amos is quite the piece of work. LOL. Lots of Loons in this part of the country.


Lou Bell 

Reply to @Ned MacAllister: 25 names on the nomination papers ,15 or so supporters at the polls ! Like who are the people who put their names on them papers and yet won't even vote for him ? Then he intimates how all the legit candidates are so afraid of him. People NEVER support a candidate who is solely in the race for themselves ! Sorry , the ignorant Trumpers do , but they haven't much going for them anyway !

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Ned MacAllister: Methinks I should feel honoured by the fact that you two hate me N'esy Pas?

Michael Levesque
once a parasite to the taxpayer always a parasite to the taxpayer!


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @michael levesque: YUP

Ben Haroldson
Maybe if she runs for pm. Wouldn't that be exciting. She would get votes here then. Go for it.


David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Methinks you should back away from the pipe and take a real nap N'esy Pas?

Matt Steele
Not really surprising . Just another has been politician looking to get back at the taxpayer funded trough . Apparently getting a REAL JOB where she actually has to work does not appeal to her . Reminds me of former Liberal Premier Frank McKenna who always returns to N.B. looking for more handouts everytime a Liberal govt.comes to power federally or provincially . Sometimes you just have to shake your head and laugh !


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks you don't know the Franky Boy I know N'esy Pas?

Ben Haroldson
Quite a good person. Unfortunately she didn't listen to her constituents on gun control.


David Raymond Amos 

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Methinks our old 303s and 30 30s etc are not a provincial issue N'esy Pas?

Jim Cyr
I really hope the Liberals win that seat. Because NB truly does not deserve a good government. It is a wastrel, profligate people. It winks and nods at the mountain of liberal corruption. It actually believes that money grows on trees. I hope that we are right back to Gallant-style governing within six months. NB will never learn, so we may as well hasten it’s destruction.


Ben Haroldson 

Reply to @Jim Cyr: Libs will never win that seat.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks it would be a hoot to see Cumberland win then we would get to see whether or not the PANB would continue to support Higgy N'esy Pas?

Robert Buck
Recycled Liberal?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Robert Buck: YUP but one who could win

Ben Haroldson

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Nope , we hunt down here.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: So do liberals

David Raymond Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise

Matthew Smith

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: someone messing with your winning streak there Dave?

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Matthew Smith: Methinks I should be addressed as Mr Amos by cops, lawyers and my political foes because only a friend should call me Dave and you are definitely not one N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Then that means everybody should call you Mr. Amos.

David Raymond Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you and all your SANB buddies certainly should N'esy Pas?