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· CBC News· Posted: Feb 03, 2020 5:00 AM AT
Some People's Alliance supporters believe party leader Kris Austin and the two other MLAs aren't doing enough to make changes to bilingualism in New Brunswick. (CBC)
An ardent opponent of official bilingualism who takes credit for the success of the People's Alliance says the populist party has let him down on the language issue.
Jason McBride and some other members of his Facebook group, United Citizens of New Brunswick, have been grumbling that Alliance Leader Kris Austin and his two fellow MLAs haven't been doing enough on bilingualism since getting elected in 2018.
McBride, a vocal critic of official bilingualism and an administrator of the group page, said he is no longer an Alliance supporter because Austin has not introduced McBride's "thousands" of anti-bilingualism petitions in the legislature.
"The LEAST KRIS AUSTIN and the rest of his group can do is actually present the petitions to government," McBride wrote in a comment. "They have been in his office for 6 MONTHS."
"PANB has to do something with this FILE soon!" said Bruce Messer, a member of the group.
Kris Austin, pictured surrounded by supporters on election night in 2018, says his party's approach to bilingualism is not as extreme as some of his supporters would like. (CBC)
In an interview, Messer said he's generally happy with the Alliance MLAs but would like a blueprint before the next election for how they plan to address bilingualism.
"Is it different from what the past Progressive Conservative party or the Liberal party has done?" he said. "What will their approach be? We have to see the blueprint before we can make decisions."
McBride's petitions call for a referendum on repealing official bilingualism, which has been the law in New Brunswick since 1969 and entrenched in the Constitution since 1982.
Austin said McBride promised to deliver petitions with "thousands" of names last August, but they turned out to have only about 2,400 signatures, some dating back five or six years.
He said that's one reason the party won't present them. Another is the petitions go far beyond his party's position, which he says is to demand a more "common sense" approach to official bilingualism and not "tackle the Canadian Constitution."
"We've never called for the elimination of bilingualism, we've never called for a referendum on bilingualism," he said.
When McBride brought the petitions to Austin at the legislature last August, he posted a selfie video arguing his group led directly to the Alliance's election breakthrough.
"As a result of this movement, the People's Alliance party now has three seats in the legislature," McBride said. "We finally have an MLA sitting who's willing and able in the fall session to be able to present this pile of petitions."
On Jan. 26 McBride reposted the August video. "I haven't seen him mention them since," he said of the petition. "Have you?" That triggered the online discussion.
A screenshot of Jason McBride's Facebook video. (Facebook/United Citizens of New Brunswick)
McBride contacted CBC News about the delay but did not respond to an interview request.
Since the 2018 election, the Alliance has supported the Progressive Conservative minority government during confidence votes in the legislature.
Austin has argued that gives him leverage over government policy but has reminded supporters that doesn't mean the Alliance can achieve all its objectives.
"The folks that supported us understand the situation that we're in and that we're making progress on several files," he said, pointing to the creation of "floater" positions at Ambulance New Brunswick filled by unilingual paramedics.
He said most Alliance supporters understand his position and aren't looking for what McBride wants.
"We're not getting flooded with emails from supporters who are taking that approach," he said.
Last spring, Austin hinted in the legislature he would try to amend the Official Languages Act to exempt ambulance paramedics. But he said other paramedic issues have been a priority and his bill probably won't be introduced in the current session.
Matt Wood said Austin must "strategically navigate" that reality until the next election.
But others were critical: Austin "just said what people wanted to hear," member Peter Robinson said.
Long-time Alliance supporter Joshua MacDonald commented, "Even my confidence is starting to shake," adding that Austin's votes for some PC actions "made me cringe."
Discontent among supporters of a populist party in the New Brunswick legislature is not new: in 1991, the anti-bilingualism Confederation of Regions Party won eight seats and formed the official opposition, but the party was soon plagued by bitter internal feuds.
Some of those battles were fuelled by anger from grassroots party members that the party's eight elected MLAs weren't doing more to dismantle bilingualism.
One of those former COR MLAs, Greg Hargrove, weighed in on McBride's Facebook discussion, saying anti-bilingualism activists "had our chance" with COR, but anglophone voters abandoned the party, "so shut up and suck it up because you brought it on yourselves."
https://globalnews.ca/news/6500043/bilingualism-petition-dispute-panb/
“We finally have an MLA sitting who is willing and able in the fall session to be able to present this pile of petitions,” McBride said in the video.
But the 2,400 signature petition never saw the floor of the legislature, a point McBride makes in the comments below the video.
“Kris Austin has had thousands of individually signed petitions calling for a change to the state of duality, segregation and the current state of bilingualism in New Brunswick since August 2, 2019. I haven’t seen him mention them or seen them since… have you?” he wrote on January 26.
McBride claims to have been a creator of a movement against bilingualism that culminated in the election of three Alliance MLAs in 2018.
McBride declined a request for an interview but sent a copy of the petition and pictures of Austin receiving it.
Changes coming to New Brunswick’s French immersion program
Austin said he did receive the petition from McBride but said he didn’t table it in the legislature because the position outlined in it is not one shared by the People’s Alliance.
“They’re not seeing the bigger picture,” he said.
“I know Mr. McBride has called to an end to bilingualism completely — we’ve never campaigned on that. I’ve never campaigned on that. It’s never been in any of our brochures.”
Austin says the party is more interested in ending duality, what he calls the segregation of French and English speakers into two systems.
But the disagreement has shown him the challenges of managing the expectations of supporters.
“You have to look at where people’s frustrations come from and sometimes the solution that they think will fix the problem is really not the solution at all,” he said.
The Alliance is currently propping up a PC minority government with its three seats, which has allowed Austin to claim some successes, if not everything the party set out to accomplish.
Austin says he feels most people understand the position the party is in and if swift action is desired, he said his party will need to form government.
“You’re constantly in negotiations, you’re constantly trying to further the things that you were elected on while at the same time giving a little bit to those in government that are trying to push their agenda as well,” he said.
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Alliance supporters grumble as petitions to dismantle bilingualism collect dust
People's Alliance Leader says petitions go beyond party approach to bilingualism
· CBC News· Posted: Feb 03, 2020 5:00 AM AT
Some People's Alliance supporters believe party leader Kris Austin and the two other MLAs aren't doing enough to make changes to bilingualism in New Brunswick. (CBC)
An ardent opponent of official bilingualism who takes credit for the success of the People's Alliance says the populist party has let him down on the language issue.
Jason McBride and some other members of his Facebook group, United Citizens of New Brunswick, have been grumbling that Alliance Leader Kris Austin and his two fellow MLAs haven't been doing enough on bilingualism since getting elected in 2018.
McBride, a vocal critic of official bilingualism and an administrator of the group page, said he is no longer an Alliance supporter because Austin has not introduced McBride's "thousands" of anti-bilingualism petitions in the legislature.
"The LEAST KRIS AUSTIN and the rest of his group can do is actually present the petitions to government," McBride wrote in a comment. "They have been in his office for 6 MONTHS."
"PANB has to do something with this FILE soon!" said Bruce Messer, a member of the group.
Kris Austin, pictured surrounded by supporters on election night in 2018, says his party's approach to bilingualism is not as extreme as some of his supporters would like. (CBC)
In an interview, Messer said he's generally happy with the Alliance MLAs but would like a blueprint before the next election for how they plan to address bilingualism.
"Is it different from what the past Progressive Conservative party or the Liberal party has done?" he said. "What will their approach be? We have to see the blueprint before we can make decisions."
A 'common sense' approach
McBride's petitions call for a referendum on repealing official bilingualism, which has been the law in New Brunswick since 1969 and entrenched in the Constitution since 1982.
Austin said McBride promised to deliver petitions with "thousands" of names last August, but they turned out to have only about 2,400 signatures, some dating back five or six years.
He said that's one reason the party won't present them. Another is the petitions go far beyond his party's position, which he says is to demand a more "common sense" approach to official bilingualism and not "tackle the Canadian Constitution."
"We've never called for the elimination of bilingualism, we've never called for a referendum on bilingualism," he said.
Video spurs debate
When McBride brought the petitions to Austin at the legislature last August, he posted a selfie video arguing his group led directly to the Alliance's election breakthrough.
"As a result of this movement, the People's Alliance party now has three seats in the legislature," McBride said. "We finally have an MLA sitting who's willing and able in the fall session to be able to present this pile of petitions."
On Jan. 26 McBride reposted the August video. "I haven't seen him mention them since," he said of the petition. "Have you?" That triggered the online discussion.
A screenshot of Jason McBride's Facebook video. (Facebook/United Citizens of New Brunswick)
McBride contacted CBC News about the delay but did not respond to an interview request.
Since the 2018 election, the Alliance has supported the Progressive Conservative minority government during confidence votes in the legislature.
Austin has argued that gives him leverage over government policy but has reminded supporters that doesn't mean the Alliance can achieve all its objectives.
"The folks that supported us understand the situation that we're in and that we're making progress on several files," he said, pointing to the creation of "floater" positions at Ambulance New Brunswick filled by unilingual paramedics.
He said most Alliance supporters understand his position and aren't looking for what McBride wants.
"We're not getting flooded with emails from supporters who are taking that approach," he said.
Last spring, Austin hinted in the legislature he would try to amend the Official Languages Act to exempt ambulance paramedics. But he said other paramedic issues have been a priority and his bill probably won't be introduced in the current session.
Others disagree
Some of the Facebook group members defended Austin, calling on the critics to help elect more Alliance members in the next election and pointing out the party has only three MLAs in the 49-seat legislature.Matt Wood said Austin must "strategically navigate" that reality until the next election.
But others were critical: Austin "just said what people wanted to hear," member Peter Robinson said.
Long-time Alliance supporter Joshua MacDonald commented, "Even my confidence is starting to shake," adding that Austin's votes for some PC actions "made me cringe."
Discontent among supporters of a populist party in the New Brunswick legislature is not new: in 1991, the anti-bilingualism Confederation of Regions Party won eight seats and formed the official opposition, but the party was soon plagued by bitter internal feuds.
Some of those battles were fuelled by anger from grassroots party members that the party's eight elected MLAs weren't doing more to dismantle bilingualism.
One of those former COR MLAs, Greg Hargrove, weighed in on McBride's Facebook discussion, saying anti-bilingualism activists "had our chance" with COR, but anglophone voters abandoned the party, "so shut up and suck it up because you brought it on yourselves."
https://globalnews.ca/news/6500043/bilingualism-petition-dispute-panb/
Bilingualism petition dispute shows challenges of managing expectations: PANB leader
A video posted to the Facebook group United Citizens of New Brunswick last week shows group administrator Jason McBride just before he drops off a petition to Alliance leader Kris Austin calling for an end to bilingualism in the province.“We finally have an MLA sitting who is willing and able in the fall session to be able to present this pile of petitions,” McBride said in the video.
But the 2,400 signature petition never saw the floor of the legislature, a point McBride makes in the comments below the video.
“Kris Austin has had thousands of individually signed petitions calling for a change to the state of duality, segregation and the current state of bilingualism in New Brunswick since August 2, 2019. I haven’t seen him mention them or seen them since… have you?” he wrote on January 26.
McBride claims to have been a creator of a movement against bilingualism that culminated in the election of three Alliance MLAs in 2018.
McBride declined a request for an interview but sent a copy of the petition and pictures of Austin receiving it.
Austin said he did receive the petition from McBride but said he didn’t table it in the legislature because the position outlined in it is not one shared by the People’s Alliance.
“They’re not seeing the bigger picture,” he said.
“I know Mr. McBride has called to an end to bilingualism completely — we’ve never campaigned on that. I’ve never campaigned on that. It’s never been in any of our brochures.”
Austin says the party is more interested in ending duality, what he calls the segregation of French and English speakers into two systems.
But the disagreement has shown him the challenges of managing the expectations of supporters.
“You have to look at where people’s frustrations come from and sometimes the solution that they think will fix the problem is really not the solution at all,” he said.
The Alliance is currently propping up a PC minority government with its three seats, which has allowed Austin to claim some successes, if not everything the party set out to accomplish.
Austin says he feels most people understand the position the party is in and if swift action is desired, he said his party will need to form government.
“You’re constantly in negotiations, you’re constantly trying to further the things that you were elected on while at the same time giving a little bit to those in government that are trying to push their agenda as well,” he said.
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Le mécontentement gronde chez des partisans de l’Alliance des gens du N.-B.
Des partisans de l'Alliance des gens du Nouveau-Brunswick estiment que leur chef, Kris Austin, et les deux autres députés du parti ne font pas assez d'efforts contre le bilinguisme officiel.
Photo : Assemblée législative du Nouveau-Brunswick
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Un Néo-Brunswickois qui s’oppose farouchement au bilinguisme officiel dans la province se sent abandonné par l’Alliance des gens du Nouveau-Brunswick sur cette question.
Jason McBride et d’autres membres de son groupe Facebook nommé United Citizens of New Brunswick reprochent au chef de l’Alliance des gens, Kris Austin, et aux deux autres députés du parti de ne pas en faire assez en matière de bilinguisme depuis les élections de 2018.
Jason McBride dit qu’il n’est plus un partisan de l’Alliance parce que Kris Austin n’a pas présenté à l’Assemblée législative ses
milliers
de pétitions contre le bilinguisme officiel. Les pétitions sont dans le bureau de M. Austin depuis six mois, souligne-t-il dans une publication sur Facebook.L’Alliance doit faire quelque chose avec ce dossier, lance Bruce Messer, un autre membre du groupe Facebook.
En entrevue, M. Messer dit être généralement satisfait du travail des députés de l’Alliance, mais qu’il aimerait voir le plan du parti en matière de bilinguisme officiel d’ici les prochaines élections pour prendre des décisions.
Kris Austin, qui s'adresse ci-dessus à ses partisans lors de la soirée électorale en 2018, explique que l'approche du parti en matière de bilinguisme officielle n'est pas la même que celle de certains partisans. Photo : Radio-Canada / Pascal Poinlane
Une approche fondée sur le bon sens
La pétition de M. McBride réclame un référendum contre le bilinguisme officiel, qui est inscrit dans une loi au Nouveau-Brunswick depuis 1969 et dans la Constitution canadienne depuis 1982.
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Un Néo-Brunswickois qui s’oppose farouchement au bilinguisme officiel dans la province se sent abandonné par l’Alliance des gens du Nouveau-Brunswick sur cette question.
Jason McBride et d’autres membres de son groupe Facebook nommé United Citizens of New Brunswick reprochent au chef de l’Alliance des gens, Kris Austin, et aux deux autres députés du parti de ne pas en faire assez en matière de bilinguisme depuis les élections de 2018.
Jason McBride dit qu’il n’est plus un partisan de l’Alliance parce que Kris Austin n’a pas présenté à l’Assemblée législative ses
milliers
de pétitions contre le bilinguisme officiel. Les pétitions sont dans le bureau de M. Austin depuis six mois, souligne-t-il dans une publication sur Facebook.L’Alliance doit faire quelque chose avec ce dossier, lance Bruce Messer, un autre membre du groupe Facebook.
En entrevue, M. Messer dit être généralement satisfait du travail des députés de l’Alliance, mais qu’il aimerait voir le plan du parti en matière de bilinguisme officiel d’ici les prochaines élections pour prendre des décisions.
Une approche fondée sur le bon sens
La pétition de M. McBride réclame un référendum contre le bilinguisme officiel, qui est inscrit dans une loi au Nouveau-Brunswick depuis 1969 et dans la Constitution canadienne depuis 1982.
L’Alliance n'a pas présenté la pétition à l’Assemblée législative. Tout d’abord, explique Kris Austin, Jason McBride avait promis en août une pétition portant la signature de
milliers
de personnes, mais il n’y en a qu’environ 2400 dont certaines qui remontent à cinq ou six ans.De plus, ajoute M. Austin, la pétition va bien au-delà de la prise de position du parti qui, précise-t-il, demande une approche plus fondée sur
le bon sens
en matière de bilinguisme officiel et qui ne s’attaque pas à la Constitution canadienne
.L’Alliance des gens n’a jamais réclamé l’élimination du bilinguisme ni un référendum sur le bilinguisme, assure Kris Austin.
Une vidéo attise le débat
Lorsque Jason McBride a remis ses pétitions à Kris Austin en août, il a publié sur Facebook une vidéo dans laquelle il soutient que c'est grâce à son groupe que l’Alliance a fait une percée électorale. Les trois députés de l’Alliance, dit-il, peuvent présenter les pétitions.
Le 26 janvier, M. McBride a publié à nouveau cette vidéo en écrivant qu’il n’a pas vu M. Austin parler des pétitions depuis ce moment. Il a demandé aux autres membres du groupe s’ils l’avaient vu les mentionner. C’est ce qui a déclenché la discussion en ligne.
Jason McBride demande aux membre de son groupe Facebook s'ils ont entendu Kris Austin parler de la pétition à l'Assemblée législative. Photo : Facebook/United Citizens of New Brunswick
Jason McBride a communiqué avec CBC à ce sujet, mais il n’a pas répondu à une demande d’entrevue.
Les députés alliancistes appuient le gouvernement progressiste-conservateur minoritaire lors des votes de confiance depuis les élections de 2018. L’Alliance des gens exerce ainsi un poids politique, mais cela ne signifie pas nécessairement qu’elle peut atteindre tous ses objectifs, a déjà expliqué Kris Austin.
Les partisans, selon M. Austin, comprennent cette situation et les progrès accomplis dans certains dossiers. Il souligne à titre d’exemple l’embauche d’ambulanciers unilingues dans les équipes flottantes affectées au transport des patients entre hôpitaux.
La majorité des partisans de l’Alliance ne demande pas ce que réclame Jason McBride, ajoute M. Austin. Son bureau, dit-il,
n’est pas inondé de courriels
à ce sujet.Le printemps dernier, M. Austin a fait entendre à l’Assemblée législative qu’il essayerait de faire modifier la loi sur les langues officielles afin d’en exempter les ambulanciers, mais il a dit que d’autres dossiers en matière de soins ambulanciers étaient prioritaires et que son projet de loi ne serait probablement pas déposé durant la session législative courante.
D’autres partisans appuient Kris Austin
D’autres membres du groupe Facebook se sont portés à la défense de Kris Austin et ont demandé à ceux qui le critiquent d’aider à faire élire plus de députés alliancistes aux prochaines élections, car le parti n’occupe que 3 sièges sur 49 à l’Assemblée législative.
Kris Austin doit
naviguer stratégiquement
jusqu’aux prochaines élections, selon le partisan Matt Wood. Mais d’autres partisans critiquent M. Austin. Il n’a dit que ce que les gens voulaient entendre
, lance l'un d'eux, Peter Robinson.Un partisan de longue date, Joshua MacDonald, dit que sa confiance est ébranlée. Il dénonce l’appui de M. Austin au Parti progressiste-conservateur.
Le mécontentement des partisans d’un parti populiste présent à l’Assemblée législative n’est pas une nouveauté dans la province. Le parti Confederation of Regions (CoR
) qui a remporté huit sièges et formé l’opposition officielle en 1991 a vite été secoué par des querelles internes.
Certains membres du parti reprochaient alors aux huit députés de ne pas en faire plus contre le bilinguisme officiel.
L’un de ces anciens députés, Greg Hargrove, est intervenu dans la discussion sur Facebook en disant que les opposants au bilinguisme ont eu une chance d’agir avec le CoR
, mais les électeurs anglophones ont ensuite abandonné le parti. Il leur dit de se taire et de souffrir en silence, car ils sont responsables de la situation, selon lui.
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