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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks Trump and his cohorts prove on a daily basis that the term "intelligence of nations"is an oxymoron N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/maple-leaf-foods-ceo-takes-aim-at-us.html
#nbpoli#cdnpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/maple-leaf-foods-ceo-ps752-us-iran-1.5424530
The Canadian Press· Posted: Jan 12, 2020 10:07 PM ET
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Maple Leafs Foods CEO Michael McCain, pictured here in 2011, posted a series of tweets from the company's official Twitter account lamenting the loss of a colleague's family in the downing of Flight PS752. (The Canadian Press)
The CEO of Maple Leaf Foods spoke out against the United States government days after an Iranian missile accidentally shot down a Ukrainian jetliner, killing all 176 people on board — including, he said, the family of a company employee.
In a series of tweets on Sunday, Michael McCain said the time since Wednesday's crash has not quelled his anger over what he describes as a "needless, irresponsible series of events in Iran." The tweets were sent from the official Maple Leaf Foods account, though McCain characterized them as "personal reflections."
Fifty-seven Canadians were among the 176 people killed on Ukraine International Airlines Flight PS752. There have been vigils and memorials across Canada commemorating the victims, as well as protests calling for de-escalation in the region.
McCain said he feels that "a narcissist in Washington" destabilized the region, ultimately leading to the crash.
Flight PS752 was mistakenly shot down minutes after taking off from an airport on the outskirts of Tehran, just hours after Iranian missiles targeted bases where Americans were stationed in Iraq.
They were retaliating for the U.S. killing of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said Iran must take full responsibility for shooting down the plane.
He said that must include a full and credible investigation, but he's steered clear of pinning the crash on the Americans.
"I think it is too soon to be drawing conclusions or assigning blame or responsibility in whatever proportions," he told reporters last week.
McCain said he's both livid and mourning for his colleague's wife and 11-year-old son, who were killed on the plane.
CBC News reached out to McCain for further comment. In response, Janet Riley, the company's vice-president of communications and public affairs, said in an email that McCain "would prefer to let the messages in his tweets speak for themselves. He felt the tragedy warranted his response."
4669 Comments
Awistoyus Nahasthay
Most Canadians agree with McCain.
Andre Legault
Aaron Morris
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
Most Canadians aren't so obtuse to see this as a black and white issue. Both sides are to blame, however one side physically destroyed a passenger plane.
Tina Falco
Reply to @lorraine karuse:
That's one view, this is another and more likely:
With Suleimani Assassination, Trump is Doing the Bidding of Washington’s Most Vile Cabal
by Jeremy Scahill, January 3, 2020
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Aaron Morris:
That’s a bit like parents watching one sibling smash the toy of another sibling, the other sibling throwing a punch in retaliation, then the parents blame them both for the dust up. Would the punch have been thrown if the toy were still intact? Of course not.
Toby Mockler
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: If you're taking a poll, this Canadian does not agree with him.
Bell Woo
Doug Mackenzie
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
Most Canadians are worried about the Habs, the Leafs, Jets, etc.
Mannie Salado
I agree with the man. The seminal moment in this path to disaster was the day Trump welshed on the nukes deal.
Jed Eckert
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Grant Bryck: What do you mean by "proxy attacks"?
"...get this regime out and implement some form of democracy."
First, the west is no shining example of "democracy".
Second, not aware of how that turned out the other 5, 10, 20 times?
Perry Best
Reply to @Mannie Salado: "I agree with the man. The seminal moment in this path to disaster was the day Trump welshed on the nukes deal."
So you disagree with the intelligence from many other nations saying that Iran was already welshing on the nukes deal?
Mannie Salado
Tina Falco
Mannie Salado
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: D'accord.
Pat George
I support Michael McCain’s opinions wholeheartedly. He hit the nail on the head.
Will Woods
David Allan
Reply to @Jed Eckert:
"And think of the profits ML may reap from the attention and supporters of the CEO'S words."
Check the share price to learn you're wrong.
Facts matter.
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks Trump and his cohorts prove on a daily basis that the term "intelligence of nations"is an oxymoron N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/01/maple-leaf-foods-ceo-takes-aim-at-us.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/maple-leaf-foods-ceo-ps752-us-iran-1.5424530
Maple Leaf Foods CEO takes aim at U.S. government over downing of PS752 by Iran
Michael McCain says he's 'very angry' in Twitter thread mourning loss of colleague's family
The Canadian Press· Posted: Jan 12, 2020 10:07 PM ET
Maple Leafs Foods CEO Michael McCain, pictured here in 2011, posted a series of tweets from the company's official Twitter account lamenting the loss of a colleague's family in the downing of Flight PS752. (The Canadian Press)
The CEO of Maple Leaf Foods spoke out against the United States government days after an Iranian missile accidentally shot down a Ukrainian jetliner, killing all 176 people on board — including, he said, the family of a company employee.
In a series of tweets on Sunday, Michael McCain said the time since Wednesday's crash has not quelled his anger over what he describes as a "needless, irresponsible series of events in Iran." The tweets were sent from the official Maple Leaf Foods account, though McCain characterized them as "personal reflections."
Fifty-seven Canadians were among the 176 people killed on Ukraine International Airlines Flight PS752. There have been vigils and memorials across Canada commemorating the victims, as well as protests calling for de-escalation in the region.
McCain said he feels that "a narcissist in Washington" destabilized the region, ultimately leading to the crash.
I’m Michael McCain, CEO of Maple Leaf Foods, and these are personal reflections. I am very angry, and time isn’t making me less angry. A MLF colleague of mine lost his wife and family this week to a needless, irresponsible series of events in Iran...
Flight PS752 was mistakenly shot down minutes after taking off from an airport on the outskirts of Tehran, just hours after Iranian missiles targeted bases where Americans were stationed in Iraq.
They were retaliating for the U.S. killing of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
Iran has admitted the plane was mistaken for a hostile target amid those soaring tensions with the United States, after first pinning the crash on a mechanical failure.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said Iran must take full responsibility for shooting down the plane.
He said that must include a full and credible investigation, but he's steered clear of pinning the crash on the Americans.
"I think it is too soon to be drawing conclusions or assigning blame or responsibility in whatever proportions," he told reporters last week.
McCain said he's both livid and mourning for his colleague's wife and 11-year-old son, who were killed on the plane.
…U.S. government leaders unconstrained by checks/balances, concocted an ill-conceived plan to divert focus from political woes. The world knows Iran is a dangerous state, but the world found a path to contain it; not perfect but by most accounts it was the right direction…
..A narcissist in Washington tears world accomplishments apart; destabilizes region. US now unwelcomed everywhere in the area including Iraq; tensions escalated to feverish pitch. Taking out despicable military leader terrorist? There are a hundred like him, standing next in line
CBC News reached out to McCain for further comment. In response, Janet Riley, the company's vice-president of communications and public affairs, said in an email that McCain "would prefer to let the messages in his tweets speak for themselves. He felt the tragedy warranted his response."
With files from CBC News
4669 Comments
Awistoyus Nahasthay
Most Canadians agree with McCain.
Andre Legault
Lorraine Karuse
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: To save himself from Impeachment. Here is one article quoting The Wall St Journal and New York Times
" Trump Cited GOP Senate Impeachment Pressure As Reason to Kill Soleiman"
Deep inside a long, detailed Wall Street Journal report about President Trump’s foreign policy advisers is an explosive nugget: “Mr. Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate, associates said.” This is a slightly stronger iteration of a fact the New York Times reported three days ago, to wit, “pointed out to one person who spoke to him on the phone last week that he had been pressured to take a harder line on Iran by some Republican senators whose support he needs now more than ever amid an impeachment battle.”
This would not mean Trump ordered the strike entirely, or even primarily, in order to placate Senate Republicans. But it does constitute an admission that domestic political considerations influenced his decision. That would, of course, constitute a grave dereliction of duty. - nymag.com
" Trump Cited GOP Senate Impeachment Pressure As Reason to Kill Soleiman"
Deep inside a long, detailed Wall Street Journal report about President Trump’s foreign policy advisers is an explosive nugget: “Mr. Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate, associates said.” This is a slightly stronger iteration of a fact the New York Times reported three days ago, to wit, “pointed out to one person who spoke to him on the phone last week that he had been pressured to take a harder line on Iran by some Republican senators whose support he needs now more than ever amid an impeachment battle.”
This would not mean Trump ordered the strike entirely, or even primarily, in order to placate Senate Republicans. But it does constitute an admission that domestic political considerations influenced his decision. That would, of course, constitute a grave dereliction of duty. - nymag.com
Lorraine Karuse
Reply to @Andre Legault: McCain's views are supported by FACTS
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/report-trump-cited-impeachment-pressure-to-kill-soleimani.html
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/report-trump-cited-impeachment-pressure-to-kill-soleimani.html
Brendan Burke
Reply to @Andre Legault: you're speaking in riddles now lol
Steve LaFramboise
Reply to @lorraine karuse: nymag is like quoting Fox News...
Maybe check out Some other “analysis” ..?
Maybe check out Some other “analysis” ..?
Richard Jay
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
I don't.
First of all, "The CEO of Maple Leaf Foods spoke out against the United States government days after an Iranian missile accidentally shot down a Ukrainian jetliner"
Since when does the US control Iranian missiles?
Also, "U.S. government leaders unconstrained by checks/balances, concocted an ill-conceived plan to divert focus from political woes".
Really? You agree with that? The US planned for Iran to take down a plane to divert focus from political woes? That doesn't seem just a little far fetched? Exactly what political woes anyhow? An impeachment that doesn't seem to be going anywhere? The Russian collusion nonsense that and FBI investigation found nothing?
I don't.
First of all, "The CEO of Maple Leaf Foods spoke out against the United States government days after an Iranian missile accidentally shot down a Ukrainian jetliner"
Since when does the US control Iranian missiles?
Also, "U.S. government leaders unconstrained by checks/balances, concocted an ill-conceived plan to divert focus from political woes".
Really? You agree with that? The US planned for Iran to take down a plane to divert focus from political woes? That doesn't seem just a little far fetched? Exactly what political woes anyhow? An impeachment that doesn't seem to be going anywhere? The Russian collusion nonsense that and FBI investigation found nothing?
Richard Jay
Reply to @lorraine karuse:
"McCain's views are supported by FACTS
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/report-trump-cited-impeachment-pressure-to-kill-soleimani.html";
That link does not report facts but nice try. If you read it and see "This is a slightly stronger iteration of a fact the New York Times reported three days ago" you would know that. NYT is propaganda and proven to be many times.
"McCain's views are supported by FACTS
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/report-trump-cited-impeachment-pressure-to-kill-soleimani.html";
That link does not report facts but nice try. If you read it and see "This is a slightly stronger iteration of a fact the New York Times reported three days ago" you would know that. NYT is propaganda and proven to be many times.
Wayne Taylor
Reply to @Richard Jay: Ignorance is bliss.
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Richard Jay:
Donald Trump initiated these latest incidents with Iran to distract from his impeachment and his incompetence as president, with zero regard for the consequences. That plane being shot down was one of the consequences. Most Canadians know who initiated all this and why.
Donald Trump initiated these latest incidents with Iran to distract from his impeachment and his incompetence as president, with zero regard for the consequences. That plane being shot down was one of the consequences. Most Canadians know who initiated all this and why.
Richard Jay
Reply to @Wayne Taylor:
"Ignorance is bliss."
It sure is. Hopefully you can over come it.
"Ignorance is bliss."
It sure is. Hopefully you can over come it.
Richard Jay
Reply to @Douglas Holden:
"Donald Trump initiated these latest incidents with Iran to distract from his impeachment and his incompetence as president"
Nonsense. That's a conspiracy theory and a silly one at best.
"Donald Trump initiated these latest incidents with Iran to distract from his impeachment and his incompetence as president"
Nonsense. That's a conspiracy theory and a silly one at best.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Richard Jay: I disagree
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Andre Legault: Methinks we should ask Bill Morneau what he has to say N'esy Pas?
Peter Ray
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
No.
Only the bleeding hearts and those who wish OUR way of life to disappear.
The rest of well-adjusted, intelligent and educated Canada does not.
No.
Only the bleeding hearts and those who wish OUR way of life to disappear.
The rest of well-adjusted, intelligent and educated Canada does not.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: True or False?
"Nancy McCain is an heir to the privately held multi-billion dollar McCain Foods empire co-founded by her late father Andrew McCain and three uncles, Harrison, Wallace and Bob (all deceased). Nancy McCain's husband, Bill Morneau is Canada's finance minister and previously was executive chairman of the billion dollar human resource consultancy, Morneau Shepell, which his father William Morneau Sr founded. Her brother, Allison McCain is the current Chairman of McCain Foods, Nancy's cousin is Michael McCain who is CEO and the largest shareholder of the $4 billion Canadian food giant, Maple Leaf Foods. Little is known about the distribution of profits from the McCain company to family members. Public Court filings showed that at least one of Wallace McCain's children, Nancy's cousin, receives an annual $4.25 million tax free capital dividend. Public records show that Bill Morneau received compensation in excess of $1 million prior to his resignation from his company to become Canada's finance minister. While strict conflict of interest rules apply to Morneau's personal holdings in his capacity as finance minister, they do not apply to the personal holdings of Nancy McCain and by extension McCain Foods."
"Nancy McCain is an heir to the privately held multi-billion dollar McCain Foods empire co-founded by her late father Andrew McCain and three uncles, Harrison, Wallace and Bob (all deceased). Nancy McCain's husband, Bill Morneau is Canada's finance minister and previously was executive chairman of the billion dollar human resource consultancy, Morneau Shepell, which his father William Morneau Sr founded. Her brother, Allison McCain is the current Chairman of McCain Foods, Nancy's cousin is Michael McCain who is CEO and the largest shareholder of the $4 billion Canadian food giant, Maple Leaf Foods. Little is known about the distribution of profits from the McCain company to family members. Public Court filings showed that at least one of Wallace McCain's children, Nancy's cousin, receives an annual $4.25 million tax free capital dividend. Public records show that Bill Morneau received compensation in excess of $1 million prior to his resignation from his company to become Canada's finance minister. While strict conflict of interest rules apply to Morneau's personal holdings in his capacity as finance minister, they do not apply to the personal holdings of Nancy McCain and by extension McCain Foods."
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Richard Jay:
We all watched this happen in real time. While I’m sure there are many “backroom details” we’re not privy to, in no way was it a conspiracy. Trump did it in plain sight, because he knows by now his employers and enablers will cover for him. Reports from those in the room have said he didn’t even know who the drone strike was targeting. That’s because he didn’t care, so long as it did exactly what it’s doing: distract. It’s his one trick, he’s done it over and over, and this is just the latest disgusting example. Pizzagate was a “conspiracy theory”. This is global diplomacy as practiced by someone who could not care less about anyone else on the globe.
We all watched this happen in real time. While I’m sure there are many “backroom details” we’re not privy to, in no way was it a conspiracy. Trump did it in plain sight, because he knows by now his employers and enablers will cover for him. Reports from those in the room have said he didn’t even know who the drone strike was targeting. That’s because he didn’t care, so long as it did exactly what it’s doing: distract. It’s his one trick, he’s done it over and over, and this is just the latest disgusting example. Pizzagate was a “conspiracy theory”. This is global diplomacy as practiced by someone who could not care less about anyone else on the globe.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Douglas Holden: I agree
Matthew Smith
Reply to @Richard Jay: I agree. 0 proof has yet to be presented. Only the sequence of events which still have fully not been revealed are used.
Brendan O'Fecalith
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: McCain certainly speaks for me on this, and for most of the people I have spoken with about it. Only his language is more measured.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Brendan O'Fecalith: Me Too
Aaron Morris
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
Most Canadians aren't so obtuse to see this as a black and white issue. Both sides are to blame, however one side physically destroyed a passenger plane.
Tina Falco
Reply to @lorraine karuse:
That's one view, this is another and more likely:
With Suleimani Assassination, Trump is Doing the Bidding of Washington’s Most Vile Cabal
by Jeremy Scahill, January 3, 2020
Tina Falco
Reply to @Peter Ray:
Still peddling 9/11 talking points?
Still peddling 9/11 talking points?
Tina Falco
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
So Bill Morneau got indirectly dragged into this? Awesome.
So Bill Morneau got indirectly dragged into this? Awesome.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Tina Falco: Methinks its just another one of those things I do that my political opponents fail to appreciate N'esy Pas?
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Aaron Morris:
That’s a bit like parents watching one sibling smash the toy of another sibling, the other sibling throwing a punch in retaliation, then the parents blame them both for the dust up. Would the punch have been thrown if the toy were still intact? Of course not.
Tina Falco
Reply to @Aaron Morris:
Canadians have been given a gift to learn about the US shenanigans used in manufacturing consent for wars, yet some choose to remain obtuse.
Why not accept the gift instead?
The L iar s that Led Us to War
January 10, 2020
Canadians have been given a gift to learn about the US shenanigans used in manufacturing consent for wars, yet some choose to remain obtuse.
Why not accept the gift instead?
The L iar s that Led Us to War
January 10, 2020
Tina Falco
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
Yup.
David Allan
Reply to @Brendan Burke:
"Actually, I'll rephrase it by saying that anyone with any sense would not agree"
Anyone with any sense can see that Trump's illegal assassination is what caused this.
"Actually, I'll rephrase it by saying that anyone with any sense would not agree"
Anyone with any sense can see that Trump's illegal assassination is what caused this.
David Allan
Reply to @Lee Hall:
"We are aligned with US foreign policy almost 100% and the US oligarchy that determines it."
No we aren't.
You just made that up.
When did Canada express support for Trump's illegal assassination?
"We are aligned with US foreign policy almost 100% and the US oligarchy that determines it."
No we aren't.
You just made that up.
When did Canada express support for Trump's illegal assassination?
Norm Dixon
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: On the contrary, most Canadians can think for them selves. Is it Trumps fault that Iran are shooting protestors too? We are all responsible for our own actions!!!
David Allan
Reply to @Steve LaFramboise:
"nymag is like quoting Fox News... "
What about WSJ?
Are you going to attack them too?
"nymag is like quoting Fox News... "
What about WSJ?
Are you going to attack them too?
David Allan
Reply to @Richard Jay:
"Since when does the US control Iranian missiles? "
Attempting to disassociate the cause from the effect is disingenuous at best.
If Trump hadn't illegally assassinated Iran's general in an act of war, this wouldn't have happened.
"Since when does the US control Iranian missiles? "
Attempting to disassociate the cause from the effect is disingenuous at best.
If Trump hadn't illegally assassinated Iran's general in an act of war, this wouldn't have happened.
Perry Best
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: "Most Canadians agree with McCain."
It seems that a lot of Iranians are putting their lives on the line to agree with Mr. Trump.
It seems that a lot of Iranians are putting their lives on the line to agree with Mr. Trump.
Graham Godlien
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: when I wrote this .... at best only 133 Canadians agree ...
Tina Falco
Reply to @David Allan:
Nope..Lee did not make that up, die hard Liberals however, just won't admit it.
Canada supports US in all their foreign adventures, the US even boasted about how we adopted an America First Policy.
Yet unlike you, I won't tell you to get a clue.
Nope..Lee did not make that up, die hard Liberals however, just won't admit it.
Canada supports US in all their foreign adventures, the US even boasted about how we adopted an America First Policy.
Yet unlike you, I won't tell you to get a clue.
Michael Trebych
Reply to @Perry Best: Then why were they outraged when the General was assassinated? Yours is an utterly lame defense that thinks lives lost in an election bid is acceptable. Despicable
Tina Falco
Reply to @Norm Dixon:
Protesters like MeK? A group that Bolton, Giuliani and even Harper rallied to overthrow the Iranian government?
Now why would Bolton, Giuliani and even Harper want to do that?
Protesters like MeK? A group that Bolton, Giuliani and even Harper rallied to overthrow the Iranian government?
Now why would Bolton, Giuliani and even Harper want to do that?
Toby Mockler
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay: If you're taking a poll, this Canadian does not agree with him.
Bell Woo
Reply to @toby mockler: this canuck does however...
Doug Mackenzie
Reply to @Awistoyus Nahasthay:
Most Canadians are worried about the Habs, the Leafs, Jets, etc.
Mannie Salado
I agree with the man. The seminal moment in this path to disaster was the day Trump welshed on the nukes deal.
Jed Eckert
Reply to @Mannie Salado:
You can't twist facts to suit your narrative.
You can't twist facts to suit your narrative.
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Jed Eckert: So what do you see as the defining moment of this latest Iran crisis?
Jed Eckert
Reply to @Mannie Salado:
There is no single defining moment.
There is no single defining moment.
Grant Bryck
Reply to @Mannie Salado: how far do you want to fo back....1979??
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Jed Eckert: correct....every incident since 1979 is a single issue in a history of conflict in the region.
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Grant Bryck: You think Trump never untied his yellow ribbon, and all this is revenge for the hostage crisis?
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Grant Bryck: Why not go back to Mossadegh and his American engineered removal? My pont is, it looked like the peace pipe had been smoked when the nukes deal was signed...but Trump felt otherwise.
Grant Bryck
Reply to @Mannie Salado: Geez, a lot happened between then and now.
Grant Bryck
Reply to @Mannie Salado: how can you say that when the General continues his control of the Iranian les proxy attacks, while the deal was inforced
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Grant Bryck: I've been clear in my view...this latest chapter began with Trump's welsh on the nukes deal. You can decide for yourself when your chapters begin and end.
Grant Bryck
Reply to @Mannie Salado: that's the underlying issue, where is the root cause... Complete an analysis and it starts way before OM.
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Grant Bryck: Whatever you say.
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Grant Bryck: Tell me this...in your estimation, if America had kept their word and not betrayed the Iran deal, would tensions be so high in the Gulf that civilian aircraft would be mistaken for cruise missiles?
Lee Hall
Reply to @Mannie Salado:
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Lee Hall
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Henry Lin
Reply to @Jed Eckert: What facts are twisted? Can't just say that without meaning anything.
Henry Lin
Reply to @Grant Bryck: Root cause? Uhm the root is Trump. Why? You want to blame this on Carter or Reagan?
John Hancock
Reply to @Mannie Salado: yea the Iranians just shot down an aircraft full of civilians. Without a doubt in my mind we should have allowed them to have nuclear capabilities... hahaha
Mannie Salado
Reply to @John Hancock: Dont go too far down that road. The Americans and the Russians...twice...have shot down civilian aircraft in military misadventure.
Steve LaFramboise
Reply to @Mannie Salado: I bet the Iranian government doesn’t make a stamp commemorating this one, though.
Lorraine Karuse
Reply to @Mannie Salado: Saudis appeased Trump by inviting him, treating him like a King and BUYING $Billions in defense equipment. Saudis and Kushner then set their site on sidelining Iran(Sunni - Shia rivalry, Israel - Iran).
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Jed Eckert:
Ah yes, the inevitability of history. “That gun would have went off whether the assassin picked it up or not,”. That’s how WW1 started. The gun did it.
Ah yes, the inevitability of history. “That gun would have went off whether the assassin picked it up or not,”. That’s how WW1 started. The gun did it.
Steve LaFramboise
Reply to @lorraine karuse: so Soleimani tried to hire Iraqi militias to attack embassies, to try to win over the angry citizens.
The US killed Soleimani and brought the country together against the US.
Then the Iran military made a mistake, which they compounded with a few days of lies, to try to control the protesters.
The best outcome would be that the Iranians can get this regime out and implement some form of democracy, although the US and Iran’s current regime will both continue to try to use the citizens as pawns.
The US killed Soleimani and brought the country together against the US.
Then the Iran military made a mistake, which they compounded with a few days of lies, to try to control the protesters.
The best outcome would be that the Iranians can get this regime out and implement some form of democracy, although the US and Iran’s current regime will both continue to try to use the citizens as pawns.
Karl Gauss
Reply to @Mannie Salado: :"The seminal moment in this path to disaster was the day Trump welshed on the nukes deal." Right on, it's time to nuke Wales!!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Mannie Salado: I concur
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Jed Eckert: Methinks an irrefutable fact is that Trump did welsh on the nukes deal N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Mannie Salado: "So what do you see as the defining moment of this latest Iran crisis?"
Trump's impeachment
Trump's impeachment
Mannie Salado
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Trump choking on a too big bite of Big Mac, and slowly tuning a darker and darker shade of blue as no one came to his rescue.
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Grant Bryck: What do you mean by "proxy attacks"?
Tina Falco
Reply to @Steve LaFramboise: "...get this regime out and implement some form of democracy."
First, the west is no shining example of "democracy".
Second, not aware of how that turned out the other 5, 10, 20 times?
Perry Best
Reply to @Mannie Salado: "I agree with the man. The seminal moment in this path to disaster was the day Trump welshed on the nukes deal."
So you disagree with the intelligence from many other nations saying that Iran was already welshing on the nukes deal?
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Perry Best: The intelligence of what nations were saying that?
Terri Payne
Reply to @Steve LaFramboise:
Re: your statement that "The best outcome would be that the Iranians can get this regime out and implement some form of democracy", the same applies to the U.S. as well!
Re: your statement that "The best outcome would be that the Iranians can get this regime out and implement some form of democracy", the same applies to the U.S. as well!
Mannie Salado
Reply to @Terri Payne: And it shows a complete ignorance of politics in Iran. The last elections brought a solid win for the moderates and liberals...a victory Trump refused to recognize in any way.
Reply to @Mannie Salado:
Grant is conflating the facts.
While JCPOA was honoured, there was Yemen, Iraq, Syria...all the US adventures (including through their own proxies) of toppling governments, still going on.
This, along with the arming and support of Daesh, al Qaeda and al Nusra, was met with push back from Iran through Soleimani.
David Raymond Amos
Grant is conflating the facts.
While JCPOA was honoured, there was Yemen, Iraq, Syria...all the US adventures (including through their own proxies) of toppling governments, still going on.
This, along with the arming and support of Daesh, al Qaeda and al Nusra, was met with push back from Iran through Soleimani.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Mannie Salado: Methinks Trump and his cohorts prove on a daily basis that the term "intelligence of nations"is an oxymoron N'esy Pas?
Mannie Salado
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: D'accord.
Pat George
I support Michael McCain’s opinions wholeheartedly. He hit the nail on the head.
Will Woods
Reply to @Pat George: your right, it is easier to virtue signal than articulate a rational point.
Jed Eckert
Reply to @Will Woods:
And think of the profits ML may reap from the attention and supporters of the CEO'S words.
And think of the profits ML may reap from the attention and supporters of the CEO'S words.
Brendan Burke
Reply to @Pat George: I'm sure his American share holders will disagree with you
Roger O' Malley
Reply to @Pat George: Good, now maybe you can support him and buy more of his companies product because I won't. I've avoided that food for a long time and for good reason I assure you...
Martin Schulte
Reply to @Pat George: To bad the supporters of Predator Trump are so immersed in their echo chamber/propaganda that they can't see the man for what he truly is. Judge his own words, and his actions, and any reasonable person can see he is not fit for the office of the President.
Matthew Smith
Reply to @Will Woods: Nailed it.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Pat George: YUP
David Allan
Reply to @Jed Eckert:
"And think of the profits ML may reap from the attention and supporters of the CEO'S words."
Check the share price to learn you're wrong.
Facts matter.
What we know from your post is that you agree with him. The rest is speculation.
Wide sweeping statements have no validity.
Oh the irony.......
After posting that you know Mcain did this to sell more products?Really?
I think what you mean is that you don't agree.
Again all your saying is that you agree. You can't know what anyone with any sense thinks.
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Most readers at this website think exactly what they're told to think, by Michael McCain, or by anyone, for that matter. Right now, 46 people agree with you. Most assuredly, that isn't "Most Canadians."