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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-2019-election-andrew-scheer-1.5252988
6101 Comments
Danielle Dalbec
P.S.
We must also not forget, the Admiral and the SNC
David Amos
Danielle Dalbec
Let us not forget the trio of , T, B, and W and the nasties done.
David Amos
Lee McEachern
Mary Anne Clarke
Aaron--you forgot to mention: the OECD indicating SNC's serious charges made them ineligible for a DPA, but Trudeau chose to meddle in this court case, and that of VA Norman and the shipping issue, and then withheld documents the defense needed for their case; China embargoed Can. canola in Mar. and only in Sept did Trudeau govt approach WTO; in TMX appeal case, Trudeau's govt did not submit arguments, did not even attend the proceedings.
David Amos
Mike Smith
The liberal energy minister: How and Why?
He must go.
Darin Loso
David Amos
YO Gerry Butts Methinks you should tell Dominic Leblanc and your buddy from Quebec that you all have mail that you should read before the writ is dropped N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Dominique Leblanc, a Liberal takeing gifts from oil men.
David Amos
Darin Loso
David Amos
Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with Integrity N'esy Pas?
Simon Jonas
Reply to @David Amos:
Sorry--that time has passed.
Out with him!
David Amos
David Amos
Methinks whereas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger hired the lawyer Anne McLellan to advise him months ago by now she must have noticed her letter to me and another from the Governor circa 2004 They were quoted verbatim within the very first paragraphs of my lawsuit (Federal Court File No T-1557-15) which I filed when Harper was the PM and answered by Pater MacKay's minions before polling day 2015 N'esy Pas?
David Lugli
we have seen the enemy and it is us
David Amos
Garry Hiebert
I doubt Justin would vote for Justin.
David Amos
Simon Jonas
Scheer is not Harper.
But
Trudeau is still Trudeau.
And that is not a good thing for Canada.
David Amos
David Amos
Kevan Cleverbridge (Hill 70)
You got that right Aaron,Justin Trudeau is Justin Trudeau's worst enemy. He has proven himself unworthy of the office he currently holds,one and done.
David Amos
Lee McEachern
The only thing he has been good at as PM for the past 4 years is attending parades.
Carl Tyrell {dit antaya)
A person that never had to worry about money put in charge of your bank account is sure to spend it because he never had to work for it. Four years and deeper in debt.
David Amos
Reply to @carl tyrell {dit antaya): Oh So True Methinks many folks will recall his statement that the budget would balance itself. However to be fair to Mr Prime minister Trudeau The Younger I suspect that his words were taken from a much larger statement then spun by the Conservative attack machine. My reasoning is simple. Nobody is that dumb. Furthermore even my fellow Maritimer the not so clever Mr Butts would never allow such nonsense to be stated by a Quebecker whether he was his boss or not N'esy Pas?
Carl Tyrell {dit antaya)
Eddy Lew
A long winded article supporting the obvious conclusion that Trudeau is the worst pm of all time.
Evan Guest
Shorter synopsis Aaron...
Harper was a successful Prime Minister.
Trudeau is a failure.
David Amos
Reply to @Evan Guest: WRONG Read it again
Lloyd Jones
Reply to @Mark Thomas:
Yes Mark, I'm also hoping for a Liberal minority supported by the NDP (hopefully under a new leader).
What have the Liberals given away in USCAM that is not widely known? Maybe I'm missing something here.
You're right, Freeland was a 1993 Oxford Rhodes Scholar in Slavonic Studies.
"Why her? Because she knows America better than most, having been a high-ranking journalist with Thomson Reuters in New York, covering banking, trade and the economy. “She knows her files really well and she’s known across the U.S.,”
(https://www.opencanada.org/features/nafta-negotiations-your-guide-players-and-priorities-matter/)). She was not alone of course, backed by Ambassador McNaughton, Steve Verheul, Kirsten Hillman, David Usher, Kendall Hembroff and others. Freeland was the political lead, part of an expert team.
Could you explain how the government's approach was weak and could have been improved?
David Amos
Robert Campbell
I dont believe these manipulated polls. Trudeau is going to get wiped out October 21.
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Campbell: Methinks many agree with polls and that its gonna go right down to the line to see who wins the next minority mandate N'esy Pas?
Lee McEachern
Canada's main foe in 2019 is Justin Trudeau.
Mo Bennett
Reply to @Lee McEachern: you forgot Andy, who's even more dangerous.
David Amos
Reply to @mo bennett: YO MO Methinks you forgot to to enlighten the folks as to why you know so much about hard ball politicking N'esy Pas?
Robert Campbell
You can sum up Justin's time as PM in a few words. Chaotic reckless spending with a lot of unethical behavior. He does not deserve a second chance.
Grant Mouland
Reply to @Robert Campbell: I couldn’t agree more. Equally honestly I do not think Singh or Scheer merits a first chance.
David Amos
Reply to @Grant Mouland: Me too. Nobody could deny that it would be a hoot to see either Maxy Baby or Dizzy Lizzy the questionable political lawyers who are the lowest in the polls win first prize in this carnival. However I know its just a pipe dream. Methinks the best we can hope for is a slim minority mandate no matter who is the ringmaster and hopefully lots of Independents find seat as well Then we would have real circus to enjoy as our rights and interests are purported being protected N'esy Pas?
Robert Campbell
What is the source of Trudeaus inflated ego and arrogance? Certainly not his dismal performance as PM.
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Campbell: Methinks its called DNA N'esy Pas?
George Smith
Trudeau has three main opponents this election:
1. Honesty
2. Integrity
3. Ethics
David Amos
Jimmy Johnson
Being on the cover of Vogue is not an accomplishment a PM should hang his hat on. It's self serving, and pretentious , which sums the PM perfectly.
David Amos
Craig Sweeney
"Trudeau's most damaging crisis came when he ran afoul of two strong, independent-minded women: Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott."
You have some nerve, Wheary, to blame the victims. Now you frame it as JT "ran afoul of two strong independent-minded women".
In reality a sad leader drunk on his own power, strong armed two women, because they didnt sit down, be quiet, and do what they were told to do.
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with Integrity N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-2019-election-andrew-scheer-1.5252988
Why Justin Trudeau's main foe in 2019 is the Justin Trudeau of 2015
6101 Comments
Danielle Dalbec
P.S.
We must also not forget, the Admiral and the SNC
David Amos
Reply to @Danielle Dalbec: I didn't Methinks you should Google my name and that of Admiral Norman N'esy Pas?
Danielle Dalbec
Let us not forget the trio of , T, B, and W and the nasties done.
David Amos
Reply to @Danielle Dalbec: Or the Jane and Jody Tag Team
Lee McEachern
Reply to @When you see his sleeves rolled up you know he is going to be working extra hard.
David Amos
Reply to @Lee McEachern: Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger rolls up his sleeves reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with some semblance of Integrity N'esy Pas?
: Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger rolls up his sleeves reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with some semblance of Integrity N'esy Pas? Mary Anne Clarke
Aaron--you forgot to mention: the OECD indicating SNC's serious charges made them ineligible for a DPA, but Trudeau chose to meddle in this court case, and that of VA Norman and the shipping issue, and then withheld documents the defense needed for their case; China embargoed Can. canola in Mar. and only in Sept did Trudeau govt approach WTO; in TMX appeal case, Trudeau's govt did not submit arguments, did not even attend the proceedings.
David Amos
Reply to @Mary Anne Clarke: Go Figure
Mike Smith
The liberal energy minister: How and Why?
He must go.
Darin Loso
Reply to @Mike Smith: energy minister, environment Minister, foreign affairs minister, prime minister
David Amos
YO Gerry Butts Methinks you should tell Dominic Leblanc and your buddy from Quebec that you all have mail that you should read before the writ is dropped N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Dominique Leblanc, a Liberal takeing gifts from oil men.
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Methinks that is libel N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: can't be libel if it's true. Nesy pis
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: and if it not?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: he took the plane flight. Nesy pas, sounds like a gift to me Nestle Quick. Don't play tough to me, Nesy pis
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: No need for me to play tough just save the proof and report you malice. Methinks you should have read about Minister McKenna's woes and how strict the RCMP are getting about online harassment before you libeled another liberal lawyer N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: laughable.Darin Loso
Reply to @Darin Loso: I seen Climate B story. Don't believe it.
David Amos
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Reply to @Darin Loso: Methinks you are one of Paul Fromm's neo nazi fanboyz N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Looks like a struck a nerve
David Amos
Methinks many folks know why I tweeted and blogged my last comment for tonight before it went "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: what is a Nesy Pas
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Chiac It is lingo from where Dominc Leblanc and I come from Say it as I spell it and you will understand it
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: the Liberal that gets favors from billionaire oil company executives. Joe can that be?
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: how can that be
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Google Fundy Royal Debate to see why I am running for public office for the 7th time while suing the Queen again
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: if you are running for office for the 7th time you are not right for politics. After time 3 you think you would see the writing on the wall. People don't like you
Darin Loso
Reply to @Darin Loso: Nesy Pas
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Methinks everybody knows my Father knew Dominic's daddy long before he was appointer Attorney General. Trust that everybody knows my Father sent the Sheriff down to put a chain on the gates of the Irving Clan's Refinery in order to make him pay his property taxes N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: I thinks people in the Maritimes who vote Liberal is what is wrong with this country.
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Methinks you know who I am correct? After my Father died my Mother married the Chief Electoral Officer Plus my Brother in Law's law firm partner and Vice President of the PC Party assisted Peter MacKay in merging with Harper's party at the very same point in time that Spitzer was testifying before the US Senate Banking Commitee and thanking me for the info N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Even you know why I run as an Independent and it has nothing to do with getting elected and everything to do with very serious litigation
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: are you the little girl who held up the sign Stop Harper in the HOC.
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Methinks you just made yourself rather infamous byway of my Twitter account N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Nope but I did know Kevin Vickersin a past life. Everybody knows the RCMP used to hire me back in the 70s and 80s Ask Wayne Easter or Ralph Goodale or Peter Van Loan or Stockwell day about that Some things I did are still secret N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: I don't do Twitter
Darin Loso
Reply to @Darin Loso: who cares
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Remember in June of 2004 after Harper got back from theMaritimes he announced that he had info the Arar Inquiry and Jack hooper of CSIS said he didn't know anything about it. Well Anne McLellan and Justice Richard Bell and Ward Elcock certainly did N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: YOU do
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: your day has come and gone. Clean your dentures Ang good night. Nesy pas
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: You registered with a Crown Corp with that name and an IP address N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: bring it on
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Your wish is my command
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: I've seen your posts here before. All talk
Darin Loso
Reply to @Darin Loso: I've sad a lot about Justin here over the years, nobody had come knocking
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Post your address and I will turn up one day
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP and the Edmonton Cops will never forget the time I went to Barry Winters' door then inserted his words about Justin Trudeau and I in the the lawsuit against the Crown in 2015 N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: with your walker and air tank.
David Amos
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Reply to @Darin Loso: Whats your address Mr Tough Talker?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Feel free to look me up. Methinks as you sit in your parents' basement you are just clever enough to know that anyone can get my info from Election Canada or at the bottom of my lawsuits N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with Integrity N'esy Pas? Billy Joe
Smith put it the best way regarding JT’s involvement in the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
Smith: Trudeau is guilty again, but don’t expect any consequences
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/smith-trudeau-is-guilty-again-but-dont-expect-any-consequences/ar-AAGdTcK?li=AAggFp5
Still, it remains shocking that violating the Conflict of Interest Act carries no penalties, especially when you consider the consequences in other cases of ethical lapses.
An expense claim scandal saw Sen. Mike Duffy charged with 31 counts of fraud — and although he was ultimately found not guilty of all charges, he went through a three-year ordeal of hearings, RCMP investigation, a criminal trial and suspension from the Senate.
Former MP Dean Del Mastro overcontributed $21,000 of his own money to his re-election campaign, exceeding the $92,567 spending cap. He went to jail.
The prime minister has been found guilty of breaching the Conflict of Interest Act for the second time, using his position of authority over Wilson-Raybould to influence her decision to intervene in a criminal prosecution, violating the principles of prosecutorial independence and the rule of law. There is no fine. No charges. No trial. No resignation. No public inquiry. Not even an independent parliamentary committee investigation.
Smith: Trudeau is guilty again, but don’t expect any consequences
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/smith-trudeau-is-guilty-again-but-dont-expect-any-consequences/ar-AAGdTcK?li=AAggFp5
Still, it remains shocking that violating the Conflict of Interest Act carries no penalties, especially when you consider the consequences in other cases of ethical lapses.
An expense claim scandal saw Sen. Mike Duffy charged with 31 counts of fraud — and although he was ultimately found not guilty of all charges, he went through a three-year ordeal of hearings, RCMP investigation, a criminal trial and suspension from the Senate.
Former MP Dean Del Mastro overcontributed $21,000 of his own money to his re-election campaign, exceeding the $92,567 spending cap. He went to jail.
The prime minister has been found guilty of breaching the Conflict of Interest Act for the second time, using his position of authority over Wilson-Raybould to influence her decision to intervene in a criminal prosecution, violating the principles of prosecutorial independence and the rule of law. There is no fine. No charges. No trial. No resignation. No public inquiry. Not even an independent parliamentary committee investigation.
Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks whereas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger hired the lawyer Anne McLellan to advise him months ago by now she must have noticed her letter to me and another from the Governor circa 2004 They were quoted verbatim within the very first paragraphs of my lawsuit (Federal Court File No T-1557-15) which I filed when Harper was the PM and answered by Pater MacKay's minions before polling day 2015 N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Billy Joe: Here are some old documents of mine the prove what I say is true
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
David Amos
Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with Integrity N'esy Pas?
Simon Jonas
Reply to @David Amos:
Sorry--that time has passed.
Out with him!
David Amos
Reply to @Simon Jonas: Methinks you should never lose your faith in peoplekind N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks whereas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger hired the lawyer Anne McLellan to advise him months ago by now she must have noticed her letter to me and another from the Governor circa 2004 They were quoted verbatim within the very first paragraphs of my lawsuit (Federal Court File No T-1557-15) which I filed when Harper was the PM and answered by Pater MacKay's minions before polling day 2015 N'esy Pas?
David Lugli
we have seen the enemy and it is us
David Amos
Reply to @david lugli: Methinks Walt Kelly was not joking N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @david lugli: Here are some old documents of mine the prove what I say is true
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Garry Hiebert
I doubt Justin would vote for Justin.
David Amos
Reply to @Garry Hiebert: Methinks it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?
Simon Jonas
Scheer is not Harper.
But
Trudeau is still Trudeau.
And that is not a good thing for Canada.
David Amos
Reply to @Simon Jonas: Methinks there is good reason why folks call Scheer Harper 2.0 N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks Billy Joe may have set some kind of record in CBC for posting 20 comments in a row long after closing time N'esy Pas? Kevan Cleverbridge (Hill 70)
You got that right Aaron,Justin Trudeau is Justin Trudeau's worst enemy. He has proven himself unworthy of the office he currently holds,one and done.
David Amos
Reply to @Kevan Cleverbridge (Hill 70): Methinks after the provocative headline this article takes a huge swing to support the Prime Minister N'esy Pas?
Lee McEachern
The only thing he has been good at as PM for the past 4 years is attending parades.
David Amos
Reply to @Lee McEachern: Methinks you forgot that he enjoys wearing strange costumes and taking selfies to keep us laughing until the next polling day N'esy Pas?
Carl Tyrell {dit antaya)
A person that never had to worry about money put in charge of your bank account is sure to spend it because he never had to work for it. Four years and deeper in debt.
David Amos
Reply to @carl tyrell {dit antaya): Oh So True Methinks many folks will recall his statement that the budget would balance itself. However to be fair to Mr Prime minister Trudeau The Younger I suspect that his words were taken from a much larger statement then spun by the Conservative attack machine. My reasoning is simple. Nobody is that dumb. Furthermore even my fellow Maritimer the not so clever Mr Butts would never allow such nonsense to be stated by a Quebecker whether he was his boss or not N'esy Pas?
Carl Tyrell {dit antaya)
Reply to @David Amos: In all fairness, if a budget has been achieved through mathematics, by following it , it should balance itself but you have to follow the plan.
The old saying work your plan and plan your work it's that simple
The old saying work your plan and plan your work it's that simple
David Amos
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Reply to @carl tyrell {dit antaya): Methinks if you were to Google me you would see that Mr Butts and the Jane and Jody Tag Team know that I have a plan N'esy Pas?David Amos
Reply to @carl tyrell {dit antaya): Trust that i have a plan
Eddy Lew
A long winded article supporting the obvious conclusion that Trudeau is the worst pm of all time.
Stan Danke
Reply to @Eddy Lew: Yes, but with the usual shots at conservatives for 'balance'
David Amos
Reply to @Eddy Lew: Methinks you should read the article again real slow N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Stan Danke: Methinks its just spin in support of the PM N'esy Pas?
Evan Guest
Shorter synopsis Aaron...
Harper was a successful Prime Minister.
Trudeau is a failure.
David Amos
Reply to @Evan Guest: WRONG Read it again
Lloyd Jones
Reply to @Mark Thomas:
Yes Mark, I'm also hoping for a Liberal minority supported by the NDP (hopefully under a new leader).
What have the Liberals given away in USCAM that is not widely known? Maybe I'm missing something here.
You're right, Freeland was a 1993 Oxford Rhodes Scholar in Slavonic Studies.
"Why her? Because she knows America better than most, having been a high-ranking journalist with Thomson Reuters in New York, covering banking, trade and the economy. “She knows her files really well and she’s known across the U.S.,”
(https://www.opencanada.org/features/nafta-negotiations-your-guide-players-and-priorities-matter/)). She was not alone of course, backed by Ambassador McNaughton, Steve Verheul, Kirsten Hillman, David Usher, Kendall Hembroff and others. Freeland was the political lead, part of an expert team.
Could you explain how the government's approach was weak and could have been improved?
David Amos
Reply to @Lloyd Jones: Methinks Mr Martin had such a mandate briefly after I ran against him and his cohorts in 2004. If you wish to recall the Liberal government bearly survived its first budget vote. They gave Stronach a Cabinet position after she dumped MacKay and crossed the floor in order to save Humpty Dumpty from falling along with the assistance of Cadman and the Speaker . Then when the Gomery Report came out Martin had the writ dropped before the news got worse. Well they lost to Harper whom we suffered with for ten long years no thanks to Canada's self described "Natural Governing Party" N'esy Pas?
Robert Campbell
I dont believe these manipulated polls. Trudeau is going to get wiped out October 21.
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Campbell: Methinks many agree with polls and that its gonna go right down to the line to see who wins the next minority mandate N'esy Pas?
Lee McEachern
Canada's main foe in 2019 is Justin Trudeau.
Mo Bennett
Reply to @Lee McEachern: you forgot Andy, who's even more dangerous.
David Amos
Reply to @mo bennett: YO MO Methinks you forgot to to enlighten the folks as to why you know so much about hard ball politicking N'esy Pas?
Robert Campbell
You can sum up Justin's time as PM in a few words. Chaotic reckless spending with a lot of unethical behavior. He does not deserve a second chance.
Grant Mouland
Reply to @Robert Campbell: I couldn’t agree more. Equally honestly I do not think Singh or Scheer merits a first chance.
David Amos
Reply to @Grant Mouland: Me too. Nobody could deny that it would be a hoot to see either Maxy Baby or Dizzy Lizzy the questionable political lawyers who are the lowest in the polls win first prize in this carnival. However I know its just a pipe dream. Methinks the best we can hope for is a slim minority mandate no matter who is the ringmaster and hopefully lots of Independents find seat as well Then we would have real circus to enjoy as our rights and interests are purported being protected N'esy Pas?
Robert Campbell
What is the source of Trudeaus inflated ego and arrogance? Certainly not his dismal performance as PM.
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Campbell: Methinks its called DNA N'esy Pas?
George Smith
Trudeau has three main opponents this election:
1. Honesty
2. Integrity
3. Ethics
David Amos
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Reply to @George Smith: Methinks you would be hard pressed to find any politician who swore an oath to the Queen that could beat such formidable opponents N'esy Pas? Jimmy Johnson
Being on the cover of Vogue is not an accomplishment a PM should hang his hat on. It's self serving, and pretentious , which sums the PM perfectly.
David Amos
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Reply to @Jimmy Johnson: Methinks if got his picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone now that would be really something I bet he would order Mr Butts to send five copies to his Mother and the members of the Rolling Stones ASAP N'esy Pas? Craig Sweeney
"Trudeau's most damaging crisis came when he ran afoul of two strong, independent-minded women: Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott."
You have some nerve, Wheary, to blame the victims. Now you frame it as JT "ran afoul of two strong independent-minded women".
In reality a sad leader drunk on his own power, strong armed two women, because they didnt sit down, be quiet, and do what they were told to do.
Craig Sweeney
Reply to @Warren Stanley Pollock:
I think that speaks to their personal ethics and promise they made to their constituents. Their issue was not with the Liberal party, just the current 'leader'.
I think that speaks to their personal ethics and promise they made to their constituents. Their issue was not with the Liberal party, just the current 'leader'.
David Amos
Reply to @Craig Sweeney: Methinks you don't know the whole story of the Jane a Jody Tag Team yet N'esy Pas?
Why Justin Trudeau's main foe in 2019 is the Justin Trudeau of 2015
A leader who frames every issue around ideals can expect blowback when he can't - or won't - live up to them
The Justin Trudeau of 2019 — the leader who is now seeking re-election — is not the Justin Trudeau of 2015, the young politician who became Canada's 23rd prime minister on a sunny day in November four years ago.
For one thing, the Trudeau of 2019 now knows exactly how much trouble can result when you make an open-ended, but absolute, promise to implement electoral reform.
The promises of 2015 (simple and aspirational) have become an actual record of governing (messy and imperfect). Not everything went according to plan. Some things didn't get done. There is now a list of missteps and controversies for Trudeau's political opponents to recite and dwell upon, from a vacation on the Aga Khan's island to the SNC-Lavalin affair. If Trudeau was a different kind of politician in 2015, he is now some degree closer to being just another politician in 2019.
The prime minister carries all of that into this fall's election. Over the last century and a half, Canadians have shown themselves to be forgiving and patient with their prime ministers — only two first-term majority governments have ever failed to be re-elected — but few of Trudeau's predecessors came to the office with higher expectations.
Trudeau has things to offer in his own defence. The Trudeau on offer over the last four years has arguably hewed closer to the promise of 2015 than he is sometimes given credit for. But the question now is whether he's shown us enough to get another four years.
In the beginning, there was the promise of "real change." At the most basic level, Justin Trudeau was not Stephen Harper and he promised a clear break from Harper's years in power. "Canadians want their government to do different things, and to do things differently," the new government said in its speech from the throne.
In various ways, big and small, things have been different.
Trudeau marches in Pride parades and is believed to be the first prime minister to ever visit a gay bar.
He takes questions from members of the public at open town hall meetings. He identifies himself as a feminist and appointed an equal number of men and women to his cabinet. He has appeared in the pages of Vogue and on the cover of Rolling Stone. These are not things that Stephen Harper did, or would have done.
Income-splitting for married couples was repealed and the federal system of child benefits was reformed and expanded. The long-form census has been restored. Canadian corporations are now required to publicly report on how many of their directors are women. The national anthem now reads "in all of us command" instead of "in all thy sons command." A majority of the Senate's seats are held by independents. There is, notwithstanding legal challenges launched by three conservative premiers, a national price on carbon emissions, billed as "one of the most ambitious carbon pricing programs in the world."
When the Harper government left office, Canada was on track to miss its emissions reduction target for 2030 by 300 megatonnes. Taking into account policies announced through 2018, that gap has been reduced by 220 megatonnes.
For 2015-2016 — the last fiscal year of the Harper era — the federal government allocated $11.4 billion for programs and services for Indigenous peoples. Under the Liberals, that total allotment is now set to reach $17.1 billion by 2021-2022.
Since November 2015, 87 long-term drinking water advisories have been lifted in Indigenous communities, nearly double the number eliminated in the previous five years.
For those inclined to support the Conservative Party, nearly all deviations from the Harper mean might be unwelcome. A Conservative government presumably would have at least maintained its preference for balancing the budget.
It's also within the realm of possibility that Harper — more cautious and fearful of bad press than Trudeau — would have avoided the Aga Khan's private island and stuck to wearing a suit and tie while touring India. It's also hard to imagine Harper's cabinet breaking up over the Shawcross doctrine. (The Conservatives might have found their own trouble, of course — perhaps by proroguing Parliament once or twice more.)
The more significant challenge for Trudeau is in responding to the argument that he hasn't been different enough. Trudeau's government is arguably the most left-leaning and activist federal government since Lester B. Pearson, but progressives and other potential Liberal supporters — voters now pursued with zeal by NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and the Greens' Elizabeth May — have grounds for complaint.
Electoral reform did not happen — and it didn't happen in spectacular fashion. Canada's international climate target for 2030 is the same as it was under Harper and the current suite of policies doesn't fully account for the necessary reductions.
Trudeau's cabinet approved the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, just as Harper's cabinet would have (though Trudeau never hid his desire to see a pipeline built). Indigenous reconciliation hasn't been advanced as far as many hoped. Parliament is still being asked to pass budget bills that could stand to be smaller. The access-to-information system is still in dire need of reform.
Nearly every government ends up deviating somewhat from its carefully constructed plans. But when you promise change, you will be judged by that standard.
According to a count by researchers at Laval University, the Liberal platform of 2015 contained 353 promises — far more than any government in recent memory has brought with it to office. Four years later, those researchers judge that 189 commitments (54 per cent) have been kept in full, while another 136 (39 per cent) have partially fulfilled.
That rate of follow-through is not out of line with the experience of previous governments. The Conservative minority government that existed from 2006 to 2008 managed 60 per cent and eight per cent, respectively. The Conservative majority from 2011 to 2015 (with the benefit of having been in office for five years by then) made good on 77 per cent and seven per cent.
Though his government's record is punctuated by loud misses — electoral reform, returning the budget to balance in 2019 — Trudeau could fairly point to such numbers in his own defence. But Trudeau's politics have always amounted to more than a checklist of items or tasks.
He has campaigned and governed using the language of ideals: change, reconciliation, diversity, feminism and gender equality, transparency and openness, "sunny ways,""we're back," supporting the middle class, fighting climate change. He has been heralded (particularly in the pages of American magazines) as the right sort of leader for this perilous moment.
Harper tended to downplay his vision of a smaller government and a more conservative country. Instead, he favoured a transactional, incremental politics that worked hard to seem unthreatening. Other than plastering the country with "Economic Action Plan" billboards, Harper tried to avoid attracting any more attention than was absolutely necessary.
Trudeau's approach has been nearly the opposite. He has been prominent and loud. He has embraced "the vision thing." As much as he has promised to do specific things, he has done so using broader appeals to ideas and ideals.
As a consequence, he's given voters ample opportunities to measure reality against his own words.
Consider that stated commitment to gender equality and feminism. Trudeau's government has passed pay equity legislation, uses gender-based analysis to assess the design of its own policies and made a deliberate effort to achieve gender parity in its public appointments.
But his cabinet also has refused to block the sale of light-armoured vehicles to Saudi Arabia, a country where women are subjected to official oppression. And Trudeau's most damaging crisis came when he ran afoul of two strong, independent-minded women: Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott.
The prime minister who enthuses about the power and purpose of diversity has welcomed 40,000 Syrian refugees and increased annual immigration — but his government sent emissaries to the United States to discourage asylum seekers from walking across Canada's southern border. A leader who invokes his children to explain his commitment to combat climate change is still being pressed to explain how he could approve the Trans Mountain expansion — even if neither of the Greens nor the NDP can quite bring themselves to argue that the oilsands should be shut down in the near future.
The politician who condemned the Harper government's attempt to ban the niqab during citizenship ceremonies could be heard again earlier this year when the prime minister spoke about the Christchurch massacre and the threat of white supremacists — but he has been criticized for not doing more to fight Quebec's Bill 21. After promising a more collaborative approach to federalism, Trudeau has found himself fighting openly with the premier of Canada's largest province. The nice young man who promised sunny ways found himself accused of trampling all over the Shawcross doctrine.
Trudeau's recent appearance on Netflix's Patriot Act was a direct confrontation on those terms — a bookend to the generally laudatory coverage Trudeau has received in the United States since 2015.
In their defence, the Liberals might argue that governing is hard and nobody's perfect, that compromises are both necessary and unavoidable, and that ideals — even if they're imperfectly lived — still matter. But any space between words and actions allows room for cynicism to grow.
In their pre-election advertising, the Conservatives have, with typical succinctness, hit on this particular narrative. Trudeau, they say, is "not as advertised." It's not an argument that seems designed to persuade potential Conservative supporters: if you voted for change in 2015 and are now disappointed that there hasn't been enough change, you are unlikely to now vote for a Conservative Party that promises a return to the pre-Trudeau state of affairs.
Instead, the Conservative line on Trudeau seems aimed at progressives. It's an attack meant to depress some of the 6.9 million people who voted for a Liberal candidate in 2015 — to either convince them to stay home or nudge them into voting for the New Democrats or Greens (in fact, the United Steelworkers are making almost the exact same argument in telling voters to go with Singh's NDP). If the Conservatives can scatter the Liberal vote, while holding their own traditional level of support, Andrew Scheer can become prime minister.
The presence of Stephen Harper no doubt made it easier to motivate and unite a record turnout for the Liberals in 2015. Four years later, Trudeau's task is to rally non-conservatives around his own government. But he also can't afford to let the election become a simple up-or-down vote on whether Justin Trudeau has fulfilled all of Canadians' hopes and dreams.
Much of one's judgment of Trudeau depends on the point of comparison. So while the Conservatives seek to measure the prime minister against the Trudeau of 2015, the Liberals have decided they are better off contrasting their guy with the only other guy who seems to have a realistic chance of being prime minister at year's end.
The Liberal campaign in 2015 was not all smiles and sunshine, but 2019 will likely require a feistier effort. The videos on same-sex marriage and abortion that seemed to so discombobulate the Conservative team suggest the Liberal campaign is looking to throw some punches (and is still adept at using social media to advance its cause). Trudeau might need to get his hands dirty. He will at least have to fight to defend his record, particularly in the three televised debates in which he's agreed to participate.
All of that should appeal to Trudeau's competitive streak and his delight at being underestimated. But the Conservatives are also taking aim at the very bedrock of Trudeau's appeal in 2015: the middle class and those working hard to join it.
Four years ago, the Liberals grasped that a significant number of voters were feeling anxious, insecure and squeezed. In response, they offered direct support — in particular, a new child benefit — and public investment. Whatever else the Liberals promised to do, however much more Trudeau came to represent, that appeal to the middle class was foundational. Without it, the whole structure of the Liberal mission would have been in danger of falling apart.
Four years later, the Conservatives have realized the wisdom of the Liberal message and are trying to match it. Scheer is likely to spend most of the campaign touting the different ways a Conservative government would "put more money in your pocket," either through tax breaks or by repealing federal climate policies (though Trudeau's carbon-pricing-and-refund policy is expected to provide a net benefit to most families).
The Liberals can point to their own policies and will no doubt have more things to promise over the next six weeks. But they might not be able to outbid the Conservatives in a dollar-for-dollar contest of tax breaks. To that end, they seem poised to try to broaden the argument, to talk about the future and what it should look like, or about leadership and what it should stand for, or about the country and what it should represent. The Conservatives will have responses for those things, too.
The memory of 2015 will loom over everything and the election of 2019 will, one way or another, be a moment of reckoning for the last four years. But an election is always ultimately about the next four years.
For one thing, the Trudeau of 2019 now knows exactly how much trouble can result when you make an open-ended, but absolute, promise to implement electoral reform.
The promises of 2015 (simple and aspirational) have become an actual record of governing (messy and imperfect). Not everything went according to plan. Some things didn't get done. There is now a list of missteps and controversies for Trudeau's political opponents to recite and dwell upon, from a vacation on the Aga Khan's island to the SNC-Lavalin affair. If Trudeau was a different kind of politician in 2015, he is now some degree closer to being just another politician in 2019.
The prime minister carries all of that into this fall's election. Over the last century and a half, Canadians have shown themselves to be forgiving and patient with their prime ministers — only two first-term majority governments have ever failed to be re-elected — but few of Trudeau's predecessors came to the office with higher expectations.
Trudeau has things to offer in his own defence. The Trudeau on offer over the last four years has arguably hewed closer to the promise of 2015 than he is sometimes given credit for. But the question now is whether he's shown us enough to get another four years.
What 'change' looks like today
In the beginning, there was the promise of "real change." At the most basic level, Justin Trudeau was not Stephen Harper and he promised a clear break from Harper's years in power. "Canadians want their government to do different things, and to do things differently," the new government said in its speech from the throne.
In various ways, big and small, things have been different.
Trudeau marches in Pride parades and is believed to be the first prime minister to ever visit a gay bar.
He takes questions from members of the public at open town hall meetings. He identifies himself as a feminist and appointed an equal number of men and women to his cabinet. He has appeared in the pages of Vogue and on the cover of Rolling Stone. These are not things that Stephen Harper did, or would have done.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, right, waves to the crowd while waiting to march in the Vancouver Pride Parade with Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, left, and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, centre, in Vancouver on Sunday, Aug. 4, 2019. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)
There are myriad policy choices that likely would have gone another way if Harper, or any other Conservative, had been prime minister for the past four years.Income-splitting for married couples was repealed and the federal system of child benefits was reformed and expanded. The long-form census has been restored. Canadian corporations are now required to publicly report on how many of their directors are women. The national anthem now reads "in all of us command" instead of "in all thy sons command." A majority of the Senate's seats are held by independents. There is, notwithstanding legal challenges launched by three conservative premiers, a national price on carbon emissions, billed as "one of the most ambitious carbon pricing programs in the world."
When the Harper government left office, Canada was on track to miss its emissions reduction target for 2030 by 300 megatonnes. Taking into account policies announced through 2018, that gap has been reduced by 220 megatonnes.
A man pauses for a moment as he looks over 1,000 crosses during a vigil at Crab Park in Vancouver's east side Tuesday, May 6, 2008. The crosses were placed to represent the lives saved by Insite, the safe injection project that allows drug addicts to shoot up in a safe environment. (Jonathan Hayward/THE CANADIAN PRESS)
In the fall of 2015, there was one supervised drug consumption site operating in Canada — a facility approved by Jean Chrétien's government. In the fall of 2019, there are 44 sites approved to operate in Canada. Some number of Canadians are likely alive today because of that change.For 2015-2016 — the last fiscal year of the Harper era — the federal government allocated $11.4 billion for programs and services for Indigenous peoples. Under the Liberals, that total allotment is now set to reach $17.1 billion by 2021-2022.
Since November 2015, 87 long-term drinking water advisories have been lifted in Indigenous communities, nearly double the number eliminated in the previous five years.
For those inclined to support the Conservative Party, nearly all deviations from the Harper mean might be unwelcome. A Conservative government presumably would have at least maintained its preference for balancing the budget.
How 'different' is different enough?
It's also within the realm of possibility that Harper — more cautious and fearful of bad press than Trudeau — would have avoided the Aga Khan's private island and stuck to wearing a suit and tie while touring India. It's also hard to imagine Harper's cabinet breaking up over the Shawcross doctrine. (The Conservatives might have found their own trouble, of course — perhaps by proroguing Parliament once or twice more.)
The more significant challenge for Trudeau is in responding to the argument that he hasn't been different enough. Trudeau's government is arguably the most left-leaning and activist federal government since Lester B. Pearson, but progressives and other potential Liberal supporters — voters now pursued with zeal by NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and the Greens' Elizabeth May — have grounds for complaint.
Electoral reform did not happen — and it didn't happen in spectacular fashion. Canada's international climate target for 2030 is the same as it was under Harper and the current suite of policies doesn't fully account for the necessary reductions.
Trudeau's cabinet approved the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, just as Harper's cabinet would have (though Trudeau never hid his desire to see a pipeline built). Indigenous reconciliation hasn't been advanced as far as many hoped. Parliament is still being asked to pass budget bills that could stand to be smaller. The access-to-information system is still in dire need of reform.
Nearly every government ends up deviating somewhat from its carefully constructed plans. But when you promise change, you will be judged by that standard.
A party that promised much
According to a count by researchers at Laval University, the Liberal platform of 2015 contained 353 promises — far more than any government in recent memory has brought with it to office. Four years later, those researchers judge that 189 commitments (54 per cent) have been kept in full, while another 136 (39 per cent) have partially fulfilled.
That rate of follow-through is not out of line with the experience of previous governments. The Conservative minority government that existed from 2006 to 2008 managed 60 per cent and eight per cent, respectively. The Conservative majority from 2011 to 2015 (with the benefit of having been in office for five years by then) made good on 77 per cent and seven per cent.
Though his government's record is punctuated by loud misses — electoral reform, returning the budget to balance in 2019 — Trudeau could fairly point to such numbers in his own defence. But Trudeau's politics have always amounted to more than a checklist of items or tasks.
He has campaigned and governed using the language of ideals: change, reconciliation, diversity, feminism and gender equality, transparency and openness, "sunny ways,""we're back," supporting the middle class, fighting climate change. He has been heralded (particularly in the pages of American magazines) as the right sort of leader for this perilous moment.
The price of pursuing the 'vision thing'
Harper tended to downplay his vision of a smaller government and a more conservative country. Instead, he favoured a transactional, incremental politics that worked hard to seem unthreatening. Other than plastering the country with "Economic Action Plan" billboards, Harper tried to avoid attracting any more attention than was absolutely necessary.
Trudeau's approach has been nearly the opposite. He has been prominent and loud. He has embraced "the vision thing." As much as he has promised to do specific things, he has done so using broader appeals to ideas and ideals.
As a consequence, he's given voters ample opportunities to measure reality against his own words.
Consider that stated commitment to gender equality and feminism. Trudeau's government has passed pay equity legislation, uses gender-based analysis to assess the design of its own policies and made a deliberate effort to achieve gender parity in its public appointments.
But his cabinet also has refused to block the sale of light-armoured vehicles to Saudi Arabia, a country where women are subjected to official oppression. And Trudeau's most damaging crisis came when he ran afoul of two strong, independent-minded women: Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is embraced by Jody Wilson-Raybould, then the minister of justice, after delivering a speech on the recognition and implementation of Indigenous rights in in the House of Commons Feb. 14, 2018. (Justin Tang/Canadian Press)
For nearly every one of Trudeau stated ideals, there have been similar complications and compromises.The prime minister who enthuses about the power and purpose of diversity has welcomed 40,000 Syrian refugees and increased annual immigration — but his government sent emissaries to the United States to discourage asylum seekers from walking across Canada's southern border. A leader who invokes his children to explain his commitment to combat climate change is still being pressed to explain how he could approve the Trans Mountain expansion — even if neither of the Greens nor the NDP can quite bring themselves to argue that the oilsands should be shut down in the near future.
The politician who condemned the Harper government's attempt to ban the niqab during citizenship ceremonies could be heard again earlier this year when the prime minister spoke about the Christchurch massacre and the threat of white supremacists — but he has been criticized for not doing more to fight Quebec's Bill 21. After promising a more collaborative approach to federalism, Trudeau has found himself fighting openly with the premier of Canada's largest province. The nice young man who promised sunny ways found himself accused of trampling all over the Shawcross doctrine.
Trudeau's recent appearance on Netflix's Patriot Act was a direct confrontation on those terms — a bookend to the generally laudatory coverage Trudeau has received in the United States since 2015.
In their defence, the Liberals might argue that governing is hard and nobody's perfect, that compromises are both necessary and unavoidable, and that ideals — even if they're imperfectly lived — still matter. But any space between words and actions allows room for cynicism to grow.
The political logic of 'not as advertised'
In their pre-election advertising, the Conservatives have, with typical succinctness, hit on this particular narrative. Trudeau, they say, is "not as advertised." It's not an argument that seems designed to persuade potential Conservative supporters: if you voted for change in 2015 and are now disappointed that there hasn't been enough change, you are unlikely to now vote for a Conservative Party that promises a return to the pre-Trudeau state of affairs.
Instead, the Conservative line on Trudeau seems aimed at progressives. It's an attack meant to depress some of the 6.9 million people who voted for a Liberal candidate in 2015 — to either convince them to stay home or nudge them into voting for the New Democrats or Greens (in fact, the United Steelworkers are making almost the exact same argument in telling voters to go with Singh's NDP). If the Conservatives can scatter the Liberal vote, while holding their own traditional level of support, Andrew Scheer can become prime minister.
Much of one's judgment of Trudeau depends on the point of comparison. So while the Conservatives seek to measure the prime minister against the Trudeau of 2015, the Liberals have decided they are better off contrasting their guy with the only other guy who seems to have a realistic chance of being prime minister at year's end.
The federal Liberals are trying to define Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer in the public's mind on their own terms. (Christopher Katsarov/THE CANADIAN PRESS)
The Liberals have begun to define the alternative. They have put Scheer, who is still relatively unknown to the Canadian public, on the spot over gay rights and abortion — two issues on which Trudeau has taken an enthusiastic stand. They have linked Scheer's politics to the burgeoning record of Doug Ford, the well-known but unpopular premier of Ontario. They have happily invoked the name of Stephen Harper — simultaneously working to fill in their picture of who Scheer is and reminding Liberal voters of why they turned out in 2015.A more aggressive Liberal campaign
The Liberal campaign in 2015 was not all smiles and sunshine, but 2019 will likely require a feistier effort. The videos on same-sex marriage and abortion that seemed to so discombobulate the Conservative team suggest the Liberal campaign is looking to throw some punches (and is still adept at using social media to advance its cause). Trudeau might need to get his hands dirty. He will at least have to fight to defend his record, particularly in the three televised debates in which he's agreed to participate.
All of that should appeal to Trudeau's competitive streak and his delight at being underestimated. But the Conservatives are also taking aim at the very bedrock of Trudeau's appeal in 2015: the middle class and those working hard to join it.
Four years ago, the Liberals grasped that a significant number of voters were feeling anxious, insecure and squeezed. In response, they offered direct support — in particular, a new child benefit — and public investment. Whatever else the Liberals promised to do, however much more Trudeau came to represent, that appeal to the middle class was foundational. Without it, the whole structure of the Liberal mission would have been in danger of falling apart.
The Liberals can point to their own policies and will no doubt have more things to promise over the next six weeks. But they might not be able to outbid the Conservatives in a dollar-for-dollar contest of tax breaks. To that end, they seem poised to try to broaden the argument, to talk about the future and what it should look like, or about leadership and what it should stand for, or about the country and what it should represent. The Conservatives will have responses for those things, too.
The memory of 2015 will loom over everything and the election of 2019 will, one way or another, be a moment of reckoning for the last four years. But an election is always ultimately about the next four years.
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