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Why a Liberal-Green 'coalition campaign' to beat Higgs is an unlikely fantasy

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Why a Liberal-Green 'coalition campaign' to beat Higgs is an unlikely fantasy

Fredericton-area man pitches plan to avoid vote splits, but neither party is ready to write off seats

Listen carefully: the New Brunswick Liberals are nervous. 

They're nervous that Green voters will deprive their party of a shot at beating Blaine Higgs's Progressive Conservatives in the provincial election this October.

You could hear it last weekend at the Liberal nominating convention for Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins candidate John Herron, who said he was attracting not only disgruntled PCs but "Green-inspired voters" to his campaign. 

"We want to make sure that we deliver this seat, so [we are] bringing everyone together to have the broadest coalition possible," he said. 

A man stands in front of a Liberal sign.    At the recent Liberal nominating convention for Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins, candidate John Herron said he was attracting not only disgruntled PCs but 'Green-inspired voters' to his campaign. (Sam Farley/CBC News)

The Greens, of course, have a different take.

Herron's Green opponent, Laura Myers, says she's not running just to prevent a PC victory but to offer voters a real alternative to the old two-party system.

"You can't get what you want by voting for what you don't want," she said.

You could hear the same Liberal angst in a video by Pat Finnigan, the former federal Liberal MP for Miramichi-Grand Lake, explaining why some voters in Kent North are urging him to run provincially.

"Firstly, most people I talk to in the region, in the riding, want the Higgs government out," said Finnigan, who would be challenging incumbent Green MLA Kevin Arseneau.

An alternative plan

Kendall Harrison is pitching an alternative to this Liberal-Green jostling. 

The self-described "data person" and keen follower of provincial politics who lives outside Fredericton says the two parties should run "a coalition campaign."

WATCH |'A very fortunate seat.' A proposal to avoid vote splitting:
 

The pitch for a Liberal-Green ‘coalition campaign’

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Politics watcher pleads for two parties to identify key ridings where they can co-operate to defeat PCs.

In January he wrote to Liberal Leader Susan Holt and Green Leader David Coon, pleading with them to consider an agreement to not run candidates against each other in key ridings — to ensure the PCs lose.

He offered to broker the deal over coffee and oat cakes. 

"I am asking the two of you as leader[s] to think more boldly than the false limits of party politics usually allow in our North American context," he wrote.

Harrison has crunched the numbers from the 2020 election. He identifies five ridings where a combined Liberal-Green vote would have prevented the PCs from electing MLAs.

Woman with shoulder-length light brown hair and man with white hair and glasses. The Liberals and Greens could also agree, Harrison says, to not run candidates against each other's leaders — Susan Holt and David Coon. (CBC)

That would have deprived Higgs of a majority and might have opened the door to a Liberal-Green arrangement to govern together. 

The Liberals now lead in opinion polls, but because a lot of their support is clustered in northern francophone ridings, Harrison points out, they still may not win the most seats in our first-past-the-post system.

So he says the two parties must, through "honest discourse and debate," determine which ridings are the most winnable by which party — so the other party can bow out.

Coon's response

The PCs won Saint John Harbour, for example, with 41.4 per cent of the vote in 2020. Combine the Green and Liberal vote and you get 46.1 per cent.

The Liberals and Greens could also agree, he says, to not run candidates against each other's leaders — both of whom are running in newly redrawn ridings with PC voting histories.

Harrison says Coon responded to his letter, "saddened" that the proposal wasn't realistic, while Holt did not answer.

"I can see that there maybe are folks within a camp who are saying 'You know, we've been out of power for a while now and maybe it's our turn. We've waited a long time,'" Harrison says.

"And I just think that's the wrong paradigm."

 A man wearing a white dress shirt smiles with his arms crossed on a university campus.Political scientist Alex Marland says no party is likely to give up on the possibility of winning a seat for itself. (Acadia University)

Alex Marland, an Acadia University political scientist who studies political party behaviour, says Harrison's concept is "a flight of fantasy."

No party is likely to give up on the possibility, however remote, of winning a seat for itself, Marland says.

"If it causes you to lose the ability to elect people and to have influence in the legislature, you know, parties don't work that way."

In Hampton on the weekend, Herron argued the political reset he's calling for requires a Liberal majority.

"We're not going to get that by minority governments and the like," he said.

Myers says Herron is presenting a false binary, disproven by the presence of three Green MLAs in the legislature since 2018.

"People don't have to choose between 'I don't want this person so I guess I have to vote for this person,'" she says.

Harrison's proposal "in theory … sounds like a good strategy but in practice I think it would be a very, very difficult thing to pull off," says Myers, who was nominated last October.

A woman in a blazer stands in front of a white background. Laura Myers, John Herron's Green opponent, says she’s not running just to prevent a PC victory but to offer voters a real alternative to the old two-party system. (Submitted by Laura Myers)

"I'd hate to get the knock on the door to say, 'we decided this is a riding where the Liberal could win.'" 

Her comments, and Herron's, are why it's unrealistic Harrison's concept could take hold, Marland says.

"An established party that has its eyes on government sees itself as unwilling to give much up. They feel the smaller opposition party should give things up," he says.

"On the other hand, the smaller opposition party exists for a reason, and they get really worried about having everything they're doing all be consumed by what they perceive as a takeover." 

The Greens have an even stronger rebuttal to Finnigan's strategic voting message in Kent North, a riding now held by Arseneau, one of three Green MLAs.

Green Leader David Coon has already said that if the PCs fail to win the 25 seats needed for a majority, he'd negotiate with the Liberals, not with the Tories — likely meaning the end of their time in power.

Replacing Arseneau with a Liberal MLA wouldn't change the anti-Higgs math required for that scenario to become reality. 

The second reason Finnigan is thinking of running, he said in his video, is to get the riding the benefits of being onside with a Liberal government.

"I will represent the best — if not the only — chance of being at the table with the next government." 

But with a Liberal minority government propped up by the Greens, Arseneau would have a lot of leverage too.

That's the argument Fredericton North Green candidate Luke Randall made in the 2020 election, pointing to a Green initiative on domestic violence that the PC minority government incorporated into legislation.

"We've actually gotten the conversation going," Randall said at the time. 

Four years later, however, Randall is running for the Liberals. He now argues voters need to unite behind "a party that can win" to beat Higgs. 

His switch shows how strategic considerations can change from election to election.

"Campaigns matter," Marland says.

Voters wanting a change of government often end up settling on the best vehicle for that by election day, he says.

A woman in a white blazer and a tall man with glasses stand in front of a microphone in a crowded hallway. Luke Randall, standing alongside Liberal Leader Susan Holt, ran for the Greens in the 2020 election but is now running for the Liberals. He said voters need to unite behind 'a party that can win' to beat Higgs. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

On the other hand, the average person may not know how best to vote strategically.

That's why Harrison says it's better for the Liberals and Greens to sort this out now. 

But with dozens of candidates already nominated already, "I fear it's not going to happen before this next election," he says.

"But I tell you: if in fact we get the same result, none of them can come out on election night and say, 'we wish the results would have been different.'

"They can't say 'we didn't see it coming.'"

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

 
 
 
88 Comments
David Amos
This is not news Everybody knows the Liberal-Green 'coalition existed since I first ran for public office 20 years ago against John Herron 
David Amos
"Last weekend at the Liberal nominating convention for Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins candidate John Herron, who said he was attracting not only disgruntled PCs but "Green-inspired voters" to his campaign."

Too Too Funny Indeed

Kyle Woodman 
Another biased anti Liberal article from JP.
David Amos

Reply to Kyle Woodman
I believe you have that bassackwards  
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Need I say Bingo again? 
 
Kyle Woodman  
Ottawa was a clear sign to everyone what a nightmare it can be for taxpayers when the Liberals team up with anyone, on any level. If the Liberals win and take us down the drain like they have in the past and currently are in Ottawa I will stay say another failure of the Higgs government.
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman 
So you say 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Kyle Woodman  
Do you still live in Ottawa Steve, or did you move to NB for your 20k/month.
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Welcome back to the circus
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
I don't believe it is Mr Outhouse you are addressing 
Kyle Woodman
Look at how well the Liberal lead federal coalition is working for Canada. Oh wait, scratch that, please ignore this post. Another failure of the Higgs government, there, that's better. 
Jim Lake 
Reply to Kyle Woodman  
Please try to post something of value Ronnie.
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Kyle Woodman   
Busy to day Steve. Must have the day off.
David Amos

Reply to Kyle Woodman
Perhaps you should partake of some more butter tarts
William Peters
Reply to Kyle Woodman
We were blessed to get a very long break from the Western Conservatives of the like of Stephen Harper. You guys just keep doing it to yourself by replacing poor governments with so much worse. We just end up going back to what we should never support out of fear of having Cons go far right of the deep end. I'd love better, but some only know the fundamental duality of good versus evil expressed in political colors. 
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Need I say Bingo?
Le Wier  
I see there a few parachute candidates this coming election from both the PCs and Liberals. I always like to weigh the pros and cons of this during campaigns.
David Amos
Reply to Le Wier 
I have been known to use a parachute a time or two but I live in this area  
Kyle Woodman
You know the Cons must be desperate when they are paying people to comment under false names on CBC articles. 
Ray Elgaard  
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Such as who ? Are you a paid li real ? 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Ray Elgaard  
Not a paid Liberal. Not even a member of the Liberal Party. I've voted differently in different elections.
Le Wier
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Maybe they are AI 
Ray Elgaard  
Reply to Kyle Woodman
You know the liberals are desperate when they have to pay people to comment under false names on CBC articles to defend them 
Kyle Woodman 

Reply to Ray Elgaard   
I know for a fact, although I can't prove anything, that the PCs spend their entire day scanning what is being posted on these articles. The 20 or so people who post on here regularly could swing popular opinion and any election, I know it. I could say more but I think my phone has been tapped into and I don't want to reveal too much at this point
Lynette Browne
Reply to Ray Elgaard
Who would they be? 
Jim Lake
Reply to Le Wier 
No it’s Ronnie Miller all the way.
Ray Elgaard  
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Too funny. Because there are no people on here non stop defending the liberals, yet everyone defending the conservatives are being paid.
Ray Elgaard  
Reply to Kyle Woodman
“I know for a fact, although I can't prove anything, that the PCs spend their entire day scanning what is being posted on these articles. The 20 or so people who post on here regularly could swing popular opinion and any election, I know it. I could say more but I think my phone has been tapped into and I don't want to reveal too much at this point.”

Hilarious

David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Oh So True 
William Peters
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Haven't the Conservatives all quit Higgs' rebranded COR party by now? The money to pay belongs to Higgs now, and he has sent some of it to Albertans and Ontarians for exterior voices to come and echo his here. 
 
Jimmy Cochrane 
These coalition/supply and confidence agreements are a stain on democracy and need to be stopped. Look no further than Ottawa to see how they work. 
Ralph Linwood
Reply to Jimmy Cochrane  
The current government has worked quite well and coalitions are common everywhere but North America. Real progress can be made when parties have to work together and compromise to govern.
SarahRose Werner 
Reply to Jimmy Cochrane  
These coalition/supply and confidence agreements are forcing at least two parties to work together. Now if we could only find a way to get all parties to work together for the good of the people instead of spending their time competing with each other, we might make some progress. 
Shawn Tabor
Reply to SarahRose Werner 
Good statement. Thanks  
Jim Lake 
Reply to Jimmy Cochrane   
Actually, coalitions are a reflection of a democratic system … more peoples voices and opinions are taken into consideration in policy and decisions … non-progressive conservatives don’t like them because, apart from the People’s Alliance (a true contradiction of terms) no other party would agree to a coalition with them so they’d never have the opportunity to take advantage.  
David Amos
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Surely you jest 
 
 
Kyle Woodman 
Didn't Higgs essentially form a coalition with the PA?
Jimmy Cochrane
Reply to Kyle Woodman
You mean with turncoat Austin ? Yes.
MR Cain 
Reply to Kyle Woodman 
Actually, no. Austin dissolved the party when he joined the PCs. Not only did Austin quit the party he founded in 2010, he invoked his right as leader to deregister it through Elections New Brunswick. 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to MR Cain  
That's why I said essentially. More of a corporate takeover of sorts.  
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Kyle Woodman  
Sorry everyone, I am not very good at math or understanding how a coalition government is formed. But somehow this has to be another failure of the Higgs government. 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Kyle Woodman 
Shouldn't you be working for the taxpayer right now Steve?  
Jim Lake
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Sure Ronnie, you should stop pretending to be someone else because your mean-spirited, personal attacks on others make you so easily identifiable. 
Greg Miller 
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Kyle everything a failure of the Higgs government -- even the sinking of the Titanic ! 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Jim Lake
Yet you endorsed someone being mean-spirited, and using pesonal attacks on another article today. I guess it really depends on which side of the argument one is on. But I am just making fun of myself, another failure of the Higgs government. 
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman 
Nope He destroyed them  
MR Cain 
Reply to Kyle Woodman
The party did not exist. It has since been resurrected and they are not too pleased with Austin.  
 
 
Kyle Woodman
What are Holt's thoughts on this, or anything for that matter. Has there ever been a more non-existent leader? 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Sounds like Misogyny.
Jim Lake
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Sure Ronnie, keep pretending to be someone else. Your comments are far more transparent than the Higgs government is. 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Kyle Woodman
I have to keep reminding myself, if I bring up Holt, it is misogyny, if I bring up Faytene 500 times, well that does not count. 
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Try again Mr. Outhouse. People don't like Faytene because she is a self professed Christian Nationalist, not because she is a woman. 
William Peters
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Depends what your intentions are. Are you saying there aren't misogynists out there would never vote for a woman? There are. You can't control what people will think about you by trying to shame them. 
David Amos

Reply to Kyle Woodman
I have no doubt Mr Outhouse read that
 
Kyle Woodman
Is this guy saying the PCs have become such a juggernaut that 2 parties are needed to defeat them? We have all seen what happens under Liberal governments, yearly deficits, ballooning debt, skyrocketing debt service payments, new taxes, higher taxes, scandals, and a government who helps a small minority at the expense of the majority. Higgs has had some missteps but he is still far away the best option available for the majority. He will retire half way through the PCs next term in gov't and then the party can get themselves back more to center and still be fiscally responsible.
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Kyle Woodman
I forgot, another failure of the Higgs government, not sure why, it just is.
Kyle Woodman 
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. .
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Is this Woodman versus his alter ego website?
 
 
 
 

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