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Methinks a lot politicians must have choked on their coffee when the snobby professor Jordan Peterson sent me an email and ended it with this quote "truth is the antidote to suffering" N'esy Pas? 



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-kris-austin-1.4902672

 

People's Alliance leader defends party's notion of language rights




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Marc Martin
Colin Seeley
Duality has no place in New Brunswick.

Separation of children on school busses does not promote bilingualism.

Funding of all cultures by Govt’s must cease immediately.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Colin Seeley

So no English schools, festivals, museums etc ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Cry me a river


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jim Moore

* less than 8% of the province are french only *

That's 32%, change your page stats to NB one.

*and they also get a bulk of the tax payer funding*

English population of NB 68% , English schools in NB 73%, how is that stat for you ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Nicolas Krinis

*Exactly, just schools, just festivals and just museums.*

You talking about 73% of schools in NB, 80% of the festivals and 98% of the museums...Huge economy thank you for agreeing.

Marc Martin
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Marc Martin
@David Amos

No one fed you yet Davis ?


David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks as usual you are feeding us all with lots frivolous and rather nasty comments to reply to N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "No one fed you yet Davis ?"

Methinks that it is no longer interesting that my replies to you are often blocked N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Not at all. I am surprised most of my comments make the cut.









Rick Given 
Rick Given
Mr. Austin said "But then you have certain individuals that come out and basically say [taking] a 20-minute school ride on a bus that's not dual busing, somehow kids are going to lose their language, and I'm thinking, 'That's just ridiculous."

How can anyone seriously argue with that?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Rick Given

Instead of a 20 minute ride lets make it 45- 60....that makes sense.

David Amos
David Amos
@Rick Given "How can anyone seriously argue with that?"

Methinks Mr Maritn always will N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Nicolas Krinis

*How so? Segregation, pure and simple*

Segregation can only be implemented if your in power or a majority...So tell me how does this apply to French buses ?





  


Jeff LeBlanc
Mario Doucet
The OLA as it stands today is obsolete and needs to be rewritten, the comissioner of french language office needs to go.


Jeff LeBlanc
Jeff LeBlanc
@Mario Doucet thank you Mario, I bet you get criticized a lot for your views considering you are a Francophone but I am glad there's people like you out there with a bit of common sense.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Jeff LeBlanc, a Francophone, my foot! I bet he cannot string two French words in a row.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Jeff LeBlanc ... any more than you can with your moniker is real.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks everybody knows that I am no Francophone but much to your chagrin my Acadian buddies and I get by just fine with Chiac N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jeff LeBlanc

He is not a francophone cbc allows fake names in here.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Who yanked you chain again ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin YOU



Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
 @David Amos, I'm sure you do. We Acadians are most accommodating








Derrick Collins
Billy Sturgeon
The amount of common sense in this article is incredible.


Rick Given
Rick Given
@Billy Sturgeon

Ain't that the truth...

David Amos
David Amos
@Rick Given "Ain't that the truth..."

Methinks a lot politicians must have choked on their coffee when the snobby professor Jordan Pederson sent me an emails and ended it with this quote "truth is the antidote to suffering" N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Billy Sturgeon

The bigotry in it also.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh

*So tell me Einstein how do they deal with people of other languages *

You don't have too, there is only 2 official language in Canada.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "The bigotry in it also."

SO YOU SAY EH?







  
Marc Martin
Mario Doucet
The laws already in place from the federa; government are plenty enough, NB doesn't need it's own version.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mario Doucet

These are the laws already applied in the province, so I have no idea what your talking about...

Kevin Garnett
Kevin Garnett
@Marc Martin In the spirit of fairness, I'm going to go ahead and assume that you mean a subset of the language laws applied in New Brunswick are Federal laws. Because If your statement was 100% accurate I wouldn't have friends in Ontario assuming I'm joking when I tell them about the duality of school buses in New Brunswick.

David Amos
David Amos 
@Marc Martin "I have no idea what your talking about.."

Why continue to play dumb? What you don't wish to argue is in the questionable federal charter created by your hero Trudeau The Elder and his cohorts in 1982 that your fellow Quebeckers did agree with. Everybody knows it was modified in 1993 by McKenna and the boyz because New Brunswick does not have a its won constitution.

As your many Anglophone and Francophone buddies in Fredericton know I have been arguing the facts in Federal Court since I ran in the election of the 42nd Parliament N'esy Pas?

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art16.html

Subsections 16.1(1) and (2) came into force on March 12, 1993 and entrench certain principles expressed in the Act Recognizing the Equality of the Two Language Communities in New Brunswick, which was promulgated in 1981


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, so what; "recognizing equality" is a good thing, n'est-ce pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you are trying to twist my words Its duality that is the bad thing N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Have read my lawsuit yet?


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, nope! But I've been told that a lawyer who represents himself has a fool as a client.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks the Crown and legions of lawyers know that I am a layman who loves to sue foolish lawyers N'esy Pas?











Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
Since 97% of NB Francophones speak English, what is the problem here?

The majority of paramedics are bilingual so is it really so terrible if in a few cases an ambulance shows up with only anglos and a translation device? I think it is way more important for the ambulance to arrive on a timely basis.


Marc Martin
 Nicolas Krinis
@Fred Brewer Instead of being grateful of having the service, we nitpick over language and people are dying.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Brewer

*Since 97% of NB Francophones speak English*

Do we or don't we ? I have seen you before saying we cant write English , you cant have both buddy.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Nicolas Krinis

*people are dying.*

Who died ? links ? You wont find any.

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Marc Martin
"Who died ? links ? You wont find any."

Seriously Marc? Here is the most recent tragic death. The ambulance took 45 minutes to arrive. My heart goes out to this family for their loss.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/atv-crash-haut-lam%C3%A8que-1.4882211

David Amos
David Amos
@Fred Brewer Methinks Mr Martin has known that is not the only incident N'esy Pas?


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Fred Brewer, there is not a shred of evidence that this boy died because of the lack of bilingual paramedics. Your link is totally unrelated to the topic. As if a paramedic who speaks French could not be found in Haut-Lamèque; give me a break!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Brewer

That's not because of a language issue, its because Medavie only found fit to hire less paramedics in that region, by the way that happened up north there is no issue with bilingualism there.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Marguerite Deschamps

They twist an try to turn everything into a French debate, there is NO casualty so far due to language issues with paramedics.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc Martin, no there isn't! Fake news like the extremists south of the border. They have a Trump and we have an Austin.

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Marc Martin
"That's not because of a language issue, its because Medavie only found fit to hire less paramedics in that region, by the way that happened up north there is no issue with bilingualism there."

Actually it is a language issue. It is a fact that Medavie cannot find enough bilingual staff and as a result ambulances are parked or otherwise unavailabe. In this instance 4 of the 6 ambulances were not available.

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Marc Martin
"there is NO casualty so far due to language issues with paramedics."

Hey Marc, could you please give us an example of a death caused by language issues according to your views?

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Marguerite Deschamps ,
"there is not a shred of evidence that this boy died because of the lack of bilingual paramedics"

For once, I agree with you. It had nothing to do with lack of bilingual paramedics, it was lack of paramedics whether they are bilingual or unilingual. Either one might have been able to save this boy's life. 45 minutes is just too long to wait.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Brewer

Its not a language issue, they have the required paramedic upper north, they just don't hire them.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Brewer

Stay on subject, your getting owned again.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks the reverse is true N'esy Pas?









daryl doucette
daryl doucette
Nice to see Kris Austin stand up to the office of the " Language Commissioner" ( and we know what language the office is in favor of) of New Brunswick. The ultimate goal of the group (s) the " Office of the Language Commissioner of NB" really represents is actually quite simple. And that would be the elimination of unilingual New Brunswickers in government employment, ( provincial, and ultimately municipal) and increasingly in the private sector. This is slowly but surely being accomplished under the guise of " Official Bilingualism". But they cannot accomplish their ultimate goal just by the original intent of the " Official Languages Act" which was to guarantee folks here in NB government services in the "Official Language" of their choice, which is fine and dandy, they have taken it " one step further" with their invention of the " Language of Work" policy. The "readers digest version" of this " policy", that the vast majority of unilingual New Brunswickers are COMEPLETLY unaware of is that any one who gets hired into government work in NB in the future will be required to be bilingual. It is as simple as that. And everyone knows whom benefits from any job being designated " bilingual". It is CRITICAL that the " Language of Work" policy NOT be allowed to be part of the " Official Languages Act" which comes up for review in 2022.


Claude DeRoche
Claude DeRoche
@daryl doucette

Didn't know that ?

Would be a lot easier to eliminate bilingualism and go with all French.

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Claude DeRoche ahhh a dream scenario eh?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@daryl doucette

*whom benefits from any job being designated " bilingual". *

Every people do have the same chance to get a government job in NB. The only problem is the people who think they are entitled to a job just because they are a majority.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Claude DeRoche

I agree !! I mean they want to save money right ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@daryl doucette

*ahhh a dream scenario eh?*

But you want to save money right ?

David Amos
David Amos 
@daryl doucette BTW the Language " Language Commissioner" is also one of two lawyers that caused a lawsuit that the Law Society lost. Now many years later the Deputy Premier, his brother and my brother in laws know I am dealing with his actions within SNB today over a real estate deal of my own in New Brunswick and 2 fraudulent ones in the USA years ago. Small wonder I sue lawyers N'esy Pas?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/the-lawyer-who-sued-the-law-society---and-won/article696984/


daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Marc Martin bilingual folks, the VAST majority of whom are francophones. Here's an idea! Lets get Quebec to become "Officially Bilingual" and make all their government jobs "bilingual essential". Guess who would DOMINATE the jobs there? Yup, the bilingual minority ( read Quebec ANGLOPHONES)....yeah and i'm sure the unilingual majority in Quebec would bend over backwards to allow THAT to happen there!!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@daryl doucette

What does Quebec have anything to do with this ? Stay on subject please.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you should know N'esy Pas?











Brian Robertson 
Brian Robertson
A generous gesture of tolerance, offering government services in French where numbers warrant has morphed over time to duality in the Country's poorest Province.
Consideration for the greater good has been trampled in a goal of creating a pseudo French society, supported completely by public funds.

This is simply not warranted, nor what we signed on for when Louis Robichaud sold us this wolf in sheep's clothing.


david herman
david herman
@Brian Robertson
"Country's poorest Province"..yet there is no telling some french people that, or for them to accept the reasons WHY that is so.

Claude DeRoche
Claude DeRoche
@Brian Robertson
Only solution is dropping bilingualism
French only like Québec!

Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Claude DeRoche

And you hit the nail on the head...you actually had the courage to voice what the real goal for the Francophone Elite along with groups such as SANB has been all along... This is not about language... This is all about power and control and the complete takeover of New Brunswick..... Sadly governments have been going along with this complete garbage for decades... Time to end the forced social engineering... Time for francophones to retain their own language and culture and stop foisting it on everyone else..... Time for francophones to also pay for their unrealistic demands.. Time to put a full stop to all government handouts both federal and provincial...… Time for everyone to receive the same per person funding... No more and No less..

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Mack Leigh bang on mack

Derwith Kennedy
Derwith Kennedy
@Mack Leigh *The X-Files theme plays*

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Brian Robertson

Maybe the government shouldn't have centralized the services in Moncton, Saint John and Fredericton then ? If you don't like the bilingual services maybe we should also remove DFO, DND, Pension Canada, ACOA and the Pay centre and move them to French populated area only, don't you agree ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh

*is all about power and control and the complete takeover of New Brunswick.....*

Take over eh...I still remember just a few years ago CCNB French still had to use English copies for a college course...taking over...seriously.

David Amos
David Amos
@Brian Robertson "Consideration for the greater good has been trampled in a goal of creating a pseudo French society, supported completely by public funds."

I wholeheartedly agree Sir

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "If you don't like the bilingual services maybe we should also remove DFO, DND, Pension Canada, ACOA and the Pay centre and move them to French populated area only, don't you agree ?"

Who would agree with you?


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, I do.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks if you could have read all my replies you may have changed your tune N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

The English population ? These are all installed into English dense population areas.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Where I run for public does not have dense population N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*Where I run for public *

Again you make no sense....please construct a full phrase Davis ty.



David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Where I run for public OFFICE does not have dense population N'esy Pas?

Methinks that should many any snobby Quebecker happy N'esy Pas?



Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, I see that you are painting all Quebeckers with the same brush. What do we call that again? - But I agree, there are some nasty ones, just like in all ethnicities.










Marc Martin
Jim Moore
Duality is just another word for segregation, it wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else, all the other provinces in Canada are actually Bilingual, you have a right to be served in both languages at all offices and government provided services, not having to travel to one office or another based on language or a different school bus for children based on language, can you imagine if we forced black and white children onto different buses, i see no difference when the intolerance is based on language instead of skin culture. NB is segregationist and not bilingual at all, far from it, Alberta is more bilingual, at least you can get service in either language in all offices


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jim Moore

*you have a right to be served in both languages at all offices and government provided services*

Federal yes but not provincial.

By the way you can only be segregated by a majority or in power, this is not the case in NB educate yourself.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Duality is just another word for segregation"

YUP Methinks our government is doing what Yankees reversed long before Trudeau The Elder created the Charter and did in New Brunswick with the Duality Nonsense N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

What ?







Marc Martin
valmond landry
wouldn't it be nice to have simultaneous translation in every ambulances would that settle the problem.



Matt Steele
Matt Steele
@valmond landry .....Electronic translation technology is available ; but certain special interest groups refuse to let it be used .

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Matt Steele

Translator: Hello sir I am a translator can you please tell me whats the problem?

Patient : arghhhh...blahh arghhhh...

Translator: Hello sir I am a translator can you please tell me whats the problem?

Patient : arghhhh...blahh arghhhh...(patient dies)

This is why its not used....

Bob Smith
Bob Smith
@Marc Martin ...the current system is letting a patient die because there are not enough bilingual paramedics. Feel better with that?

 Lynn Gilbert
Lynn Gilbert
@Marc Martin I've seen it used many times with a lot of our refugee families at one of our biggest hospitals in NB. It works very well. In the big hospitals in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver, they have many different languages to deal with and they say it works well. Why wouldn't it work here? Why are you so negative??


Jim Moore
Jim Moore
@Bob Smith No there arent enough French ones, they would rather have no ambulances than one with english only, silly especially considering only less than 8% of the population are french only.

Joseph Vacher
Joseph Vacher
@Jim Moore more like 5%

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Bob Smith

"because there are not enough bilingual paramedics."
That's BS. Some ambulances are used to transfer patients. There should be a system for just for emergencies and one for transfers.

Transfers can be accomplished by a driver and nurse(s), freeing paramedics.

Nicolas Krinis
Nicolas Krinis
@Marc Martin It's more like

Patient suffers from a heart attack.
2 octogeneratians performed CPR on him for 45 min.
Where is that ambulance already?

Sorry we are short staffed because medics need to be bilingual. Patient dies.

Jann Dutch
Jann Dutch
@Marc Martin and how would listening to your "argh blarg garg" in person help someone understand what is being said?

Derwith Kennedy
Derwith Kennedy
@Rosco holt That's a good idea! Of course first responders should be able to speak both provincial languages, but in non-emergency situations a unilingual french or english paramedic should be fine.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Derwith Kennedy, I don't think this would go well with a unilingual Anglophone.
Nicolas Krinis
Nicolas Krinis
@Nicolas Krinis For the down-voters, I hope it never happens to you because what I related is *exactly* want went on.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bob Smith

*the current system is letting a patient die*

Who died ? Please post links ? You wont find any related to ambulances...

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@ Lynn Gilbert

Maybe we should go for a French system only and you could use the translation devices if you like them so much ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jim Moore

*only less than 8% of the population are french only.*

what ?? Last time I checked it was over 32%, are you sure you didn't look at stats for Ontario buddy?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Nicolas Krinis

But who died ? I mean this as been going on for over 3-4 years , so who died ? Links ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jann Dutch

The thing is when you are in a critical mode if your French your going to try to speak in French having someone in English only yelling at you wont help, the same will go if your English and you have a French person yelling at you...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Who died ? Please post links ? You wont find any related to ambulances..."

Methinks several folks have provided you with links you have been demanding for months and yet you continue to play dumb for no reason anyone understands N'esy Pas?


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, nope; no relevant links to the subject at hand at all!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps WRONG


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, RIGHT !

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@daryl doucette

Actually they exist everywhere in the province. Do you know what else exists ? English bilinguals.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc Martin, they do. I had one working in my field. He was trilingual and very bright to boot.









Dianne MacPherson
Kirby Lucas
The decision to make bilingualism in NB official, via the Constitution, is the stupidest political decision ever made. It was only done so Hatfield could get French votes.


Brian Robertson
Brian Robertson
@Kirby Lucas
It was McKenna that had Bill 88 entrenched in the Constitution. And it never would have happened had it not been part of the 'seamless' Meech Lake Accord.
But when the Accord was rejected, the seams quickly unraveled, and McKenna and Mulroony did a deal in a back room that saddled us with this albatross.

Matt Steele
Matt Steele
@Kirby Lucas .....It was former Premier Frank McKenna that had it entrenched in the Constitution . McKenna seemed to have an intense hatred for the Province . He entrenched Official Bilingualism in the Constitution , then left the Province . Ever since we have had one term govt. except for the Lord govt. who went 7 years ; but nothing was accomplished by Lord in his second term before he went down to defeat in an early election . Welcome to N.B. ; a failed province that was destroyed by Frank McKenna !!!

Dianne MacPherson
Dianne MacPherson
@Kirby Lucas
And the Bilingualism issue has been
used as a Political football ever since.
No one used it as 'dangerously' as the
Liberal Govt. under Gallant !!!!!!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Kirby Lucas

It was done because the French was oppressed, segregated treated like nothing. These things still happen in 2018, you can take a look at all the post here for proof.

David Amos
David Amos
@Kirby Lucas " It was only done so Hatfield could get French votes."

Oh So True

David Amos
David Amos
@Brian Robertson "It was McKenna that had Bill 88 entrenched in the Constitution. And it never would have happened had it not been part of the 'seamless' Meech Lake Accord."

Very true as well










daryl doucette
Albert Wade
I work for a large federal department in Moncton. Out of over 300 workers in our office only 3 are unilingual English positions. That would be the 3 contract cleaners.


daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Albert Wade I rest my case.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Albert Wade, could you name the department so we can verify the accuracy of what you are advancing? This is the Federal Government by the way and it has nothing to do with provincial jurisdiction.

The Justice building which is administered by the province sure has a lot of unilingual workers there!

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Albert Wade, then either you are bilingual or just a cleaner eh?

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Marguerite Desch yeah and none of them speak English.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@daryl doucette, another falsehood coming from you! They don't speak French.

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@daryl doucette hey marguerite provide numbers please. Of all the staff at that building. A breakdown, of how many are " bilingual" vrs how many are " unilingual"... Awaiting your reply..

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@daryl doucette, I named you the place. It's up to you to check it for yourself.

I have yet to get the federal department place that Wade is referring to so I can verify his assertion.

maude windsor
maude windsor
@daryl doucette simple. NB is designated bilingual or french only withing the hiring rules of the public service of canada. i have experienced this sad state of affairs....these federal jobs are designated, especially the EX levels as french on applying for nb jobs. NS has no such designation, nor PEI. you will find more federal jobs in NS PEI Nfld because of this ruling......ps many english speaking NB educated people move to west, apply for senior federal indeterminate jobs there...and do very well....but never can move back to NB because they speak only english...or chriac french!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Albert Wade

That is not true, name me the department ? by the way there is no Albert Wade working for the Federal government, another PANB voter spreading false rumors.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@daryl doucette

* " bilingual" vrs how many are " unilingual"... *

Bilingual does not mean they are French born kid. a good example is ACOA a department I worked for years, 75% where bilingual English natives. Any more questions ?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@maude windsor, the more you write, the more you demonstrate that the reason you would not be able to get a job in government is that your written English is pitiable.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc Martin, maybe he's the janitor.

John O'Brien
John O'Brien
@Marguerite Deschamps at least he wasn't born without manners as you apparently were

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@John O'Brien, I suppose you do, Mr anti-French!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps the more you write, the more you demonstrate that the reason you would not be able to get a job in government is that your written English is pitiable.

Oh my Methinks you write just like a wealthy liberal N'esy Pas?



Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@John O'Brien, But you are anti-French!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*is that your written English is pitiable*

Says you ......

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks I should say imagine if you are not whom you claim to be N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Don't tell me you called that poor provincial civil servant again Davis ?? That's so funny..

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Nope his boss










Layton Bennett
Layton Bennett
I have had my resume handed back to me without even looking at it because I am not bilingual, on multiple occasions. So if the only qualification they asked was my language and nothing else, I guess we know what the priority is don't we? And BTW, I have been denied service in English, by francophones working for the provincial government, because the person wearing the English/Francais pin, couldn't speak English. They guy knew just enough English to tell me he was going to find someone else. If bilingualism is such a priority and it has nothing to do with cutting out the English, then how did he even get hired? He should have flunked out on the first question.


Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Layton Bennett I spoke with a front line Fed worker whose job description require a bilingual applicant only. In the 5 years he held that position he was asked for service in French only twice. It was a preference not a requirement as both were fluent. This person was the only Bilingual staff member in the office, but other jobs were listed as required (?) none were found.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Layton Bennett

*I have had my resume handed back to me *

Who would want a person like you in their team ? They probably used the first reason to get rid of you.

*couldn't speak English.*

That's untrue, I dare to tell me that persons name ?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Layton Bennett, if the job would not have required being bilingual, I wonder what other supposedly unfair "song and dance" rationalisation you would have come up with for not getting the job.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Who would want a person like you in their team ?"

Methinks you should ask your boss the same question N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Who is my boss Davis ? Please don't tell me your still harassing that poor person in the provincial government ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Trust that I called them again and discussed you Its funny they mentioned you first


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

They did ? That civil servant will be serving you a complaint for harassment soon im sure, this is too funny.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Please do







Joseph Vacher
 Joseph Vacher
Cmon NB is doing so well ....................... said noone ever

only bilingual province + Highest Taxed Region in North America + Highest Debt Level in Canada + Lowest GDP = The Acadian Agenda


Layton Bennett
Layton Bennett
@Joseph Vacher
While there is a lot of truth there, the taxes, debt and GDP are not related to OLA, it is however related to the other millstone around our necks, the Irvings and their race to the bottom.. Nearly every Irving property in this province pays a fraction of what it should in property taxes, and they were Canadian pioneers in stashing money in offshore banks.

Joseph Vacher
Joseph Vacher
@Layton Bennett irvings are not helping us, but neither is paying for Dual Systems. Money wasted

Layton Bennett
Layton Bennett
@Joseph Vacher Dual systems is definitely a waste, no question, no argument. BUt it is sofa cushion change compared to the whole ale robbery we suffer from the Irvings. The Irving oil rail yard in Saint John pays less in property taxes than the Tim Horton's right beside it, the CanaPort same thing, 90% off property tax discount. Kenneth Irving told the then mayor of Saint John, that the deal would fall apart if they don't get the tax break... except the other partner in the deal, Repsol, had no idea there even was a property tax deal in place, and never asked for one.
No, when it comes to robbery the OLA is an amateur compared to the Irvings.


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Joseph Vacher, you would be signing a different tune if Irving's name was French; that I guarantee.

Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@Joseph Vacher
Lowest GDP=PEI............highest tax region..Quebec...........highest debt level Alberta...
highest household debt......Ontario

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Dan Lee, they say anything.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Joseph Vacher

You suggesting we go to a French only System?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "you would be signing a different tune if Irving's name was French; that I guarantee."

Do you read before you write?



Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, wooooo... "singing"!









Brian Robertson
Brian Robertson
Government has no business in shaping and engineering language and culture.
The whole idea of government enforced bilingualism is gross government overreach.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Brian Robertson

So you dont want schools for your kids ?

Claude DeRoche
Claude DeRoche
@Brian Robertson
Totally Agree, French only, problem solved! Voilà!

Brian Robertson
Brian Robertson
@Marc Martin
Yes I do.
But we won't be able to fund them if we continue with this obsession with bilingualism.
In the early 60s, one could study English, French, Spanish, German and Latin.
Now, all we have for language is English and three different kinds of French.
We seem to be going in reverse.

Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Brian Robertson
Don't compare the English language to the now mostly used U$ian basic dialect good at the very least ot order a hot dog...eh!

Brian Robertson
Brian Robertson
@Roland Godin
There a variety of dialects within the English language as spoken in different geographic regions; just as I'm sure applies to French and other languages.
Is there some point in your singling out how it is spoken in America?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Brian Robertson, there is a point; given that the Francophones get the same snipping comments from the extremists.

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Brian Robertson
In reality government should stop interfering in the economy. It was proven that governments always pick losers when the decide to support businesses.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Brian Robertson

we are already funding more then we are supposed too. Did you know that the English population 68% has 73% of the schools in NB ? Why must I have to pay extra for you ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "there is a point; given that the Francophones get the same snipping comments from the extremists."

Methinks you should review your own N'esy Pas?



Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, fighting fire with fire!



David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks like all liberal spin doctors you think two wrongs make a right N'esy Pas?









Marc Martin 
Marc LeBlanc
For thousands of years the hallmark of any successful society was and is the desire to communicate in a respectful manner.To make the effort to understand and be understood.What peeves me to no end is when francophones who I know can speak perfect english march into Costco or wherever and play the "I can't speak english"card.Now some would say they are just exercising their rights.I think they're just plain ignorant.


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc LeBlanc, that pretty well defeats the argument we so often read on here that the bilingual Francophones in government cannot speak English. You cannot have it both way, buddy!

Marc LeBlanc
Marc LeBlanc
@Marguerite Deschamps both ways....(pluriel)

Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Marguerite Deschamps

Oh have no fear madame !! The Elite speak French or English whenever and wherever it suits their " agenda " of the moment.... With the underlying agenda always being to take over our province...

Marc LeBlanc
Marc LeBlanc
@Mack Leigh It's amazing how many self professed uni-lingual francophones miraculously learn english when they land in Old Orchard Beach,Florida or Mexico,but loose it again when they land in WalMart in Miramichi

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc LeBlanc, in Mexico, I speak Spanish.
Woooo, we are taking over the province now, all by ourselves, with our "tite" minority, as we are so often reminded of on these topics.
And given that you bother correcting my little spelling mistake on here, which I had picked up by the way, then how about you?

"@Mack Leigh It's amazing how many "self-professed""unilingual""Francophones" miraculously learn "English" when they land in Old Orchard Beach ,Florida or Mexico,but "lose" it again when they land in WalMart in Miramichi" - Five spelling errors right there!

maude windsor
maude windsor
@Marc LeBlanc yes! take the moncton hotel clerk on front desk pulled the 'i cant speak english' card for the week stay...then when we wanted to catch avery early start and paid our bill in the evening...this no english person chased us out the hotel front doors attacking our car yelling in perfect english that we have to pay our bill!!! and one questions why tourism is down!!!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Marc LeBlanc

So we must stop speaking French now ? Isn't that called segregation  ?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@maude windsor, what, you did not want to pay your accommodation bill? - That's a crime in Canada.
And if we refused to pay our bill every time someone told us: "I don't speak French!"; it would not cost us much in hotel, restaurant and retail bills.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@maude windsor

Private sector is not obligated to provide bilingual service.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc LeBlanc "It's amazing how many self professed uni-lingual francophones miraculously learn english when they land in Old Orchard Beach,Florida or Mexico,but loose it again when they land in WalMart in Miramichi"

YUP



Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, they don't usually say: "I can't speak English". They say: "En français s'il-vous-plaît". Because they are entitled to receive services in their official language in this province and country, just like you do. As for service in the public sector, you can rest assured that I would do my best to serve my clients in the language of their choice. I would learn some Mi'kmaq if I had significant numbers of them patronizing my business.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps I owned a successful business in my younger days I doubt you ever did N'esy Pas?










Joseph Vacher
 Nicolas Krinis
I think that the Shiac spoken in NB should protected everywhere in the province. Most of the francophones don't even speak French, but a dialect.


Joseph Vacher
Joseph Vacher
@Nicolas Krinis

it should be put out to die like a crippled farm animal

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Joseph Vachier, not more than 40 years ago, you would not have been able to get a job in New Brunswick if your name was the pseudonym that you are using right now. Even in the 1980's, most high ranking government jobs were held by unilingual Anglophones with English names.

Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@Marguerite Deschamps
Now that is 100% right........I lived in Fredericton in the early 70s......I used to go to King place and other places......never seen a French worker then.......I remember going for my birth certificate and I can still hear the employees giggle when a French person called....

david herman
david herman
@Marguerite Deschamps
So Margaret...really all you are saying here is that the french are causing BILLIONS in government expenditures out of SPITE...typical.

Nicolas Krinis
Nicolas Krinis
@Marguerite Deschamps So let's treat Anglophones the same way? Is that what you're saying?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@david herman, the Francophones are only taking their fair share of jobs, not more. And we are not asking for more. Billions? Chill out, will you!


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Nicolas Krinis

What ya saying bra ? no wut im say g ? This Is what I hear every from English kids...Its perfect English ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Dan Lee

It sill happen, I even get grumpy eyes when me and my wife speak French, Fredericton is one of the worse place.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@david herman

The English cost more since you have more population, so whats your point?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Nicolas Krinis

The same way they are currently treating us ? Sure why not ..

Nicolas Krinis
Nicolas Krinis
@Marc Martin Nothing compared to the "French" spoken in NB.

Nicolas Krinis
Nicolas Krinis
@Marc Martin How are they treating francophones? Do you really believe they are treated unfairly? You must be joking or living under a rock.

Jim Reid
Jim Reid
@Marc Martin not my kids, You do know that MTV is not what it was in the 80s a wee too much rap for you M&M

Gil Murray
Gil Murray
@Marc Martin Sorry, but picking on kids? Weak.

Nicolas Krinis
Nicolas Krinis
@Marguerite Deschamps No, they are not. They are actually taking the lion's share of jobs because English is a much easier language to learn than French. Moreover, many people pick it up automatically in their communities. Let's describe things the way they are, not what we see from our rose-colored glasses. And we would be happy to "chill out" but the unfairness is suffocating.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@david herman

*french are causing BILLIONS in government expenditures*

Links ? Proof?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Nicolas Krinis

There still is these day courses in French colleges who use English books. Now you tell me how you are being treated unfairly.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Gil Murray

Unfortunately I don't consider people over 18 kids, do you ? Truth hurts ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jim Reid

You need to get out of your hole and listen to the English people in the city how they speak.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Nicolas Krinis, if French is so hard to learn, then how come some do learn it and become bilingual, Anglophones as well as Francophones? I know; I did work with a lot of them. And I can assure you that a bilingual Anglophone is sure to get a government job. And I have no problem with that.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "It sill happen, I even get grumpy eyes when me and my wife speak French, Fredericton is one of the worse place."

Methinks if you were true to yourself and tried to fit in with the folks you picked for neighbours when you came down from Quebec for a fancy job then you would discover that its most likely you and your snobby attitude rather than the lingo you are using N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

From Quebec ? I am from up north, silly Davis you don't know the geographic of New Brunswick, French people are born in NB !!!

*your snobby attitude *

Because I speak French to my wife on the street ? Thanks for proving your bigotry.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks one would be foolish to believe anything you claim N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

I think you should apply this to yourself Davis.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin You are always demanding links Methinks you show this one to your boss N'esy Pas?

https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right









Mack Leigh
John O'Brien
I am very familiar with Kris's and PANB's position.It is not anti-bilingual. If the French people
CHOOSE not to speak French, why is it up to NB's taxpayers to spend million$$$$$$ making a French Gestapo.The biggest reason by far that Anglo's resent French political power is that it NEVER, NEVER gives any consideration to anyone else. Yes they are a founding group but so are Irish , Welsh, German , Italian and now we haves waves of Asian immigrants- but all we hear in NB is "en francais s'il vous plait."


Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@John O'Brien

Exactly !!! Should I choose not to speak English and demand everyone cater to me in German or Gaelic exactly how would that come across ?? Do ya think government would be falling over backwards to meet my unrealistic, unwarranted demands ?? Nope....... not a hope in hades of that happening....... If our Indigenous people tried the same stunt do you think government would comply ?? Nope again !! Time for all of this foolishness to end..... Bilingual where numbers warrant and equal funding for every single person of this province and country....... Ya want something more , then ya pay for it yourself...

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@John O'Brien

*If the French people
CHOOSE not to speak French*

What ?

There is also only 2 official language in Canada, Germain, Irish, welsh, Italian are not one of them.

Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Mack Leigh
Some are saying because they can't pay their share they would like to have it like the goog old days, paid for by every one else, they need worry we are caring and in both langues officielles...eh!voilà.

John O'Brien
John O'Brien
@Marc Martin I remember you from before the election Marc- things are not going your way are they?
It's going to get much worse for you and your type,

John O'Brien
John O'Brien
@Marc Martin and yet all those languages are native to people who built Canada.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. So what your saying is the other races an languages of the other than anglophone and francophone are 2nd class citizen's in N.B

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@John O'Brien

And ? They come here to adapt to our culture not the other way.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

I'm not you are. Are you suggesting we put all the languages as official languages ? Looks like a lot of money to me...But wait !! Didn't you say you wanted to save money ?? I'm confused...

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. And What about the First Nation People's Language's why are they not in the official language. They were the first people here.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. Yes you are confused. Not once have I said to put all languages as official. you just said that. What I have said no language should have more rights than any languages. In other words in case your still confused is no official languages. This is the year2018 in case you don't know.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Bernard McIntyre, I agree, not prior to the late 1980s when the English had all the jobs.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marguerite Deschamps Funny I work with French speaking people in the 1970's.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Bernard McIntyre, they were few and far between in high ranking government jobs. I know; I verified the list then. In Municipal Affairs and Justice, for example, there were NONE. It must have been a coincidence that the turned COR Ed Allen was Minister of Municipal Affairs.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

So your saying your language should not have more rights then mine, then we agree.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. No you keep saying your language is in the two official languages And my language is not. You are right in saying my language should not have more rights than yours but yours does have more rights than mine, so we don't agree.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marguerite Deschamps Well you seemed to have had a high ranking job.
Bernard McIntyre
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

What more rights do I have ? You don't have access to the same services I do ?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Bernard McIntyre, that was after 1980s. And I had to do the job of the unilingual on top of mine over and above the fact that they went frolicking pretending to learn French on my dime.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin I don't believe the government speak my language. So I guess I don't have the same servise's as you do.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marguerite Deschamps on your dime. I believe all tax payer's pay not just you.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Bernard McIntyre, then you would save a ton of money if we did not hire these misfits.

David Amos
David Amos
@John O'Brien Methinks you should say Hey to Kris for me He don't call he don't hence he don't love me N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

*I don't believe the government speak my language. So I guess I don't have the same servise's as you do.*

Is your language an official language ?

Rusty Brown
Rusty Brown
Tax payers, actually.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin That's the point here. No languages should be official.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

Well that's the way its implemented in Canada, its for people to integrate themselves not the opposite.
Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. So that makes it right. And you said it yourself "it's for people to integrate themselves not the Opposite" Does this mean yourself also.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

My family is amongst the oldest and first installed in NB how about you ?

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin I believe the First Nation People were here first. So that gives you more rights than other people because your ancestor's were amongst the oldest and not the first people installed in N.B So does that mean your ancestor's weren't deported in 1754? So you do live in the past.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "My family is amongst the oldest and first installed in NB how about you ?"

Yea Right










Paul Bourgoin 
Paul Bourgoin
The division of New Brunswick is the worse thing happening to our Province and residents. Language has been in New Brunswick, a tool of division between English and French! Are we not civilized enough to live in harmony English and French! What I question is who benefits from these linguistic cat fights ? Not NB residents, but those who blow the BUGLE of DIVISION , they are sitting laughing while we argue and they promise to suppress the fire of division but they hose it down with fuel then benefit financially as English and French Argue. This has to stop! We have, and live in a Bilingual province, we should live in harmony with one and other! Those who light those fires of division should be BOYCOTTED BY NB RESIDENTS! , BOYCOTT THEIR BUSINESSES !! THOSE BENEFIT FROM THESE ACTS OF DISCRIMINATION!!


Gil Murray
Gil Murray
@Paul Bourgoin Actually statistics show that less of "us" are choosing to live here all the time as youth who can, leave. Soon there will be only bitter seniors and the privileged few left to fight. And they are not leaving due to the many benefits of being the only bilingual province.

Ray Bungay
Ray Bungay
@Paul Bourgoin True words spoken Pau! Thank you for those!

Jim Reid
Jim Reid
@Paul Bourgoin Boycott their businesses? For freedom to express? No spoken language should ever have to be treated in this manner, the division it appears, will be further fueled by encouragement of this nature


Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Paul Bourgoin

All you have to do is look at the various RTI's obtained from both the provincial and federal government and you will soon learn exactly " who " is benefiting from this division...... And you can bet your bottom dollar it is not the Majority !!!

maude windsor
maude windsor
@Mack Leigh its the liberal party of canada....next election do not get foxed by promises of liberals that will be broken.....NB is 80% english speaking so vote for people/party that will bring NB back into prosperity.

Mack Leigh
@maude windsor

And ironically only 3 to 5% of Francophones speak French only....We are bankrupting our province and catering to the demands of a minority when 95 to 97% of the people in NB can communicate in English...... Can you say Take Over by the Francophone Elite ??

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@maude windsor

Actually its closer to 68%, nice try.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh

So you want to segregate the French population ? No one is forcing you to speak French but you want to force the minority ?

Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@maude windsor
For some we have all the jobs, so are we the only one making an effort, a word that spell's the same in les deux langues offcielles...eh!

Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Mack Leigh
Are you saying don't make an effort to respect les deux langues officielles, which is not the case for 99,9% of the population and leave a sour note for all...eh!

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Roland Godin, the more they post gibberish, the more they sink.

David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin "The division of New Brunswick is the worse thing happening to our Province and residents. Language has been in New Brunswick, a tool of division between English and French!"

Methinks the politicians created the division for their own benefit and now they are regretting it N'esy Pas?









Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
I have always had a thirst for knowledge. Everything you learn helps you to grow. If it helps you in your chosen profession all the better. I Enjoyed learning until it became mandatory and irrelevant at the same time. It was only when I returned to NB that I ran into issues with the "system" where your previous education means nothing if you don't meet the requirements of the two largest employers in the province. The Government or the Empire. Both are a drain on income potential of most who choose to live here.


David Amos
David Amos 
@Norman Albert Snr "I have always had a thirst for knowledge"

Me Too

In the sixties I took special French classes and latin because you know as many people as you know languages. However when I watched a lot a very decent people lose their jobs that hey had since the fifties because of the Charter I refused to speak French anymore to strangers and would not even drive through Quebec for many years. Trust that more than once I have thrown rude snobby Quebeckers out of my shop because I understood what they were saying to each other about my employees and I.



Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, there are always extremists on both sides. But I can assure you that no one lost any jobs in New Brunswick because of any Charter, except the one who met Kathrine at the Centennial building where he should not have been there in the first place. And to this day, unilingual Anglophones are still hired in positions that are designated as bilingual.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps My Mother in Law did



Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps 
 @David Amos, what you are telling us here is that you turned against all the French because of the actions of a few. Even worse, you threw people out of your shop because of who they are. As smart as you think you are, you should know that the treatment you get is reciprocal to the treatment you give. Is it any surprise given that you have a history of raising Cain with anyone and everyone?

And some good business decision that is; throwing patrons out of your shop just for who they are! Now do tell me that I think I am smart. If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would be twice as smart as you really are!




 

Marc Martin
David Stairs
I cannot believe that the Government allows an entity which was created to fix the language problems,to allow people like this to be put into this position, to push their own agenda..we are paying someone to destroy a Province, as apposed to fixing it...let's all get some common sense and remove this guy...it is not up to the province to protect your language..it is up to you..the province cannot force you to exercise because it is in your best interest to do so, no more so than they can force you to learn Gaelic....there is something missing in the translation.....you want to protect your culture,than teach your children about your culture...government is about the people..not culture...


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Stairs

*you want to protect your culture,than teach your children about your culture*

Are you suggesting we close all schools in NB ? Because why should I pay for your culture?

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. you are right with YOU TEACH YOUR CHILDREN YOUR CULTURE. No one should have to pay for other people's culture and language.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. Is cosuil gur duine feargach e. Ni iocann tu as mo theangacha agus mo chutur.

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Bernard McIntyre Chip air a ghualainn ris an canar Battle of Quebec.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

Why should I pay for your English school teaching your culture ?

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin You seem to want other people pay for your culture. No one pays' for my culture and language and I don't expect them to unlike yourself.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Shawn McShane. Yes that seems to be the case. To bad it won't fall off.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

No one pays for your teachers , your museums , your festivals ? That a new one !!!

Dianne Bastarache
Dianne Bastarache
@David Stairs When you are saying *remove this guy* you are talking about Kris Austin right? Sadly, it seems there are laws against removing an elected official.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Dianne Bastarache

He voted for him then wants to remove him.....

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. What are you talking about. Don't you even read what you write? As you said in one of your comment you are confused.

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Dianne Bastarache Some things get lost in translation in your second language? He means Michel Carrier, the interim official languages commissioner.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Bernard McIntyre, translation: "It's a fierce person. You do not want to get out of my languages and chat". See, I know some Gaelic too.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@David Stairs It's to bad some people can't read. I believe your talking about Mr. Michel Carrier not Mr. Kris Austin as some peole wrote in their comments. I agree about Mr. Carrier he seems to be biased in a job that a person should not be.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Shawn McShane, we know you have a chip on your shoulder since the Battle of Quebec.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Dianne Bastarache But not someone who has been appointed.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Bernard McIntyre, most probably you lost your Gaelic language, if you ever had one, that is. Translation software can do wonders today and make one look smart.

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marguerite Deschamps You are right! Translation software can do wonders, we should use it in government, in the ambulances, in the hospitals...the list is endless and would save a ton of money, we can get rid of duality. You are so smart.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Shawn McShane, soon there will only be jobs left for smart people like software developers. What are you going to do?

Dianne Bastarache
Dianne Bastarache
@Shawn McShane No need for the sarcasm Shawn. I am quite aware that he meant the OLC. However, in my opinion, attitudes like those of Kris Austin causes the division and damage in this province, not the OLC.

Dianne Bastarache
Dianne Bastarache
@Marguerite Deschamps lol...that's a long time to carry a chip!!!

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marguerite Deschamps Naw i still have my brough but i keep it myself and don't expect other people to pay for it , and no you are wrong with your translation and i guess some people aren't as smart as they think.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marguerite Deschamps. What I said was " you seem like an angry person. you don't pay for my language or culture" so your Gaelic is a little rusty.

David Amos
David Amos
@Bernard McIntyre Methinks the lady doth protest too much N'esy Pas?



Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@David Amos. Do you think.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Bernard McIntyre, it is palpable who the protestors are on here!
Always the same people harping the same thing over and over again. Why do they keep disparaging CBC? It gives them free exposure as to how uninformed and dense they are!










Fred Knox
Shawn McShane
If you comment on Radio Canada it has to be only in French. If you comment here it can be in English or French or a combination of both. Why is that?

Radio-Canada: Use French for all of your exchanges and comments. Other languages cannot be used except for an occasional word.
CBC: Use English or French for all of your exchanges and comment. Other languages cannot be used except for an occasional word.


Fred Knox
Fred Knox
@Marguerite Deschamps Are you implying that your Anglophone friends are not educated. I know most of mine are.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Fred Knox, to the contrary; they are very smart!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks I should be grateful that you think me a fool N'esy Pas?









Brian Robertson 
Brian Robertson
New Brunswick must never again vote a Liberal into power, nor any Party with a francophone leader.
That is exactly how we got into this mess; and the only way we just possibly get out as well.


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Brian Robertson, actually, francophone leaders never got too many votes from Anglophone ridings in any event.

John O'Brien
John O'Brien
@Brian Robertson We have to get them out of the courts as well. Any group that can propose and pass anything that says French language legislation should be enforced to the max- in other words -stifle all language except French is way too powerful.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@John O'Brien and Brian Roberston

You both are the exact type of people that voted for PANB( CoR)

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@John O'Brien, now you don't want any Francophone to get any representation in the government in any form or in any way whatsoever. I see that you wish to revert to an era not so long ago, before the advent of Louis Robichaud, and even after up to the late 1980s when the Eglish had all the jobs. New Brunswickers were still leaving in droves to find work then, be it the French or the English.

John O'Brien
John O'Brien
@Marguerite Deschamps I have not seen a French leader - in NB or Quebec- that has had any good world view. Xenophobia and an unhealthy obsession with forcing the French language on everyone are the usual hallmarks. I had my eyes open this summer on a visit to Paris. There is the xenophobia certainly- French don't seem comfortable with "foreigners", but language is totally a non-issue in France. Canadian French are unique- and not in a good way.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@John O'Brien

But why is French an issue to you in NB then ? Your not too logical are you?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@John O'Brien, I see that you are singling out the French again. What do we call those who paint an identifiable group with the same brush again?

David Amos
David Amos
@Brian Robertson Methinks everybody knows that I would never voted for a liberal in the first place N'esy Pas?








Shawn McShane
Lou Bell
Michel Carrier , N.B. 's french Language Cop ,stated adamantly that the criteria for working in the Provincial jurisdiction ISN'T the best and brightest , BUT whether you're bilingual . Has been , and if things continue as they are , always will be ! Years of University just aren't enough. Language trumps all . Nothing less .


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Lou Bell, now do tell where he stated this!

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marguerite Deschamps The article above has words in blue, if you click on them they take you to different articles. Try it.


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Shawn McShane, you are the one telling us he stated this. Then direct me to the one where you allege that he did state this.

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marguerite Deschamps "Still, there are some jobs that anglophones will not be qualified to perform because of their lack of French-language..."

He is right, the best trauma doctor in NB was disqualified because they kept raising the bar on his French. They flew in an old doctor from Quebec who still lived in Quebec, paid taxes in Quebec and then he had to resign because they couldn't get a hold of him for an emergency. Read to the end: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/head-of-new-brunswick-trauma-program-steps-down-1.1410851


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Shawn McShane, there is absolutely nothing in your reference backing up anything that you allege!

David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell "Michel Carrier , N.B. 's french Language Cop"

Methinks you should check the lawyer's work within SNB before he got the fancy French Language cop job the first time N'esy Pas?






People's Alliance leader defends party's notion of language rights

Kris Austin says he'd like to meet with francophone leaders but doesn't expect party will change position


People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin says his party supports the right of francophones and anglophones to receive services in the language of their choice, but takes exception to how the right is applied. (CBC)


People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin lashed back Tuesday at the acting commissioner of official languages, who has suggested the party attracted supporters by blaming bilingualism for some of the province's problems.

Austin objected to Michel Carrier's singling out of a political party for criticism.

"I can imagine if the auditor general came out and blasted the Liberal Party about accounting, or the ombudsman come out and question the Conservative party about policy, it would be frowned upon," Austin said Tuesday.

"But yet Mr. Carrier seems OK with coming out and attacking us on language."
Earlier this week, Carrier said some of the messages the People's Alliance is sending aren't "necessarily for equality as far as government services and the way government responds and communicates to its francophone population."

He suggested that after 50 years of official bilingualism, some anglophones still resent the rights confirmed by the Official Languages Act, believe francophones have a better crack at civil service jobs, and question the need for duality in the ambulance service.


Michel Carrier, the interim official languages commissioner, said some anglophones still hold resentment of rights confirmed by New Brunswick's Official Languages Act. 
"There's still a misunderstanding," Carrier said.

More selective application


Austin said his party, which won three seats in the September election, supports the right of francophones and anglophones to receive services in the language of their choice but takes exception to how and where this right is implemented.

"If you question how taxes are implemented, are you opposed to all taxes?" he asked on Information Morning Fredericton. "If you question how health-care service delivery is given, do you oppose health care?
It can be great in the world of ideologies,  but it has to work on the ground, or what's the point? - Kris Austin, People's Alliance leader
"What we're doing is we're simply saying, 'Look we support the right of both French and English in this province but we have serious questions on how it's implemented. I don't know why that's an unfair thing to talk about or discuss."

Although he said his party supports bilingualism, Austin suggested it isn't needed everywhere.
For example, he questioned the need to have separate school buses for francophone students and the need to have bilingual paramedics in areas that are largely unilingual.


Information Morning - Fredericton
PANB responds to Michel Carrier


00:0010:46




Comments made by the interim official languages commissioner on our show yesterday have the People's Alliance crying foul. Leader of the PANB Kris Austin responds. 10:46
Austin said he understands some francophones worry about "assimilation," but that isn't his party's goal.

"They don't want to lose their language and culture, I respect that and I understand that," he said.

"But then you have certain individuals that come out and basically say [taking] a 20-minute school ride on a bus that's not dual busing, somehow kids are going to lose their language, and I'm thinking, 'That's just ridiculous.'"

System needs to be 'reasonable' 


Austin said his party supports bilingual paramedics, but it's difficult for paramedics working between 40 and 50 hours a week to learn a second language on the side.

"You've got to be reasonable about this and it's got to make sense," he said. "It can be great in the world of ideologies,  but it has to work on the ground, or what's the point?"

He said the problem is reversed for francophone paramedics who struggle with English and can't get full-time work in areas of the province where paramedics are in high demand.

"You can either have unilingual paramedics showing up in 15 minutes, or you can have bilingual paramedics showing up in 45 … I think most New Brunswickers would say, 'Give me the quick response.'"

Would like to meet francophones


Austin said he's open to meeting with Carrier and leaders of the francophone community. But he also said the Alliance won't be budged on what many francophones consider a retreat on official language rights.

"Our opinion is probably not going to change on this," he said. "We're very resolute in how we look at it.

"But again if there's areas where we can make it work better … I'm certainly open to those conversations."
With files from Information Morning Fredericton








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