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Welcome to the Circus I grabbed a ringside seat already and am willing to share my popcorn if your shoes ain't shiny
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-scott-moe-announcement-1.4882428
@Joe Rocket "The Trudeau tax on everything tax."
I agree with Scheer in that the carbon tax rebate is just a liberal gimmick to save face and try to buy some votes before the next election is upon them all. However Trudeau the Younger did not help his buddy Premier Gallant with his new plan just as he is trying to secure a minority mandate. Clearly there is no love loss between them and the federal liberals have written Gallant off.
However as soon as I read this article I thought of the Premier's big Pow Wow in New Brunswick close to the Yankee border last summer and the light dawned on my marblehead. If anyone wishes to recall Gallant backtracked and inter provincial trade etc after the big win about beer in the Supreme Court. Clearly he knew he had fallen out of favour within his own party so he was looking find new buddies no matter the colour of the political coat The Throne Speech on Oct 23rd proved it in spades. N'esy Pas?
With all this in mind I made one comment then got on the phone to Premier Ford's office and his Attorney General's Offices as well (The call to Ford was recorded by them with my permission) I discussed the emails I had sent them and I have heard nothing further from them today but I did recive another interesting emaill from a former wannabe Ontario PC leader.
Months ago I talked to Premier Moe's office about Carbon Tax etc and they did respond to my email but I have heard nothing more since Moe came to New Brunswick. Go Figure why I am running or public office again next year.
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A policy reversal by the federal government on emissions standards on coal-fired power plants could benefit New Brunswick consumers by eliminating the need for power rate increases to pay for carbon taxes. (CBC)

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/coal-fired-power-plants-carbon-tax-1.4882669

NB Power to dodge major carbon taxes after Ottawa proposes looser rules on coal plants
Greenhouse gas bill for Belledune station could fall to less than $1 per tonne after policy change
· CBC News· Posted: Oct 30, 2018 5:00 AM AT
Comments

Bob Ols
Sometimes I wonder if there is anything but a vacuum between the dear Minsiter's ears? The whole idea was to incentivize people and companies to make greener choices. NB is sitting on top of huge natural gas reserves and this would have been a great opportunity to begin developing the resource. Like Alberta, NB could migrate off coal generated electricity to much cleaner natural gas. But in the end I suspect it is all about Liberal MP's hanging on to their seats as they witness successive provinces boot out the left leaning gov'ts. Ontario, Quebec, NB and soon, AB.

Marguerite Deschamps
@Bob Ols : "NB is sitting on top of huge natural gas reserves". Well, that's sure news to me!

Bob Ols
@Marguerite Deschamps
I am not surprised given you have/had a Liberal gov't for the past number of years. Here is a great link to the info. You folks should get after it!
http://nbnaturalgas.ca/nb-natural-gas/
I am not surprised given you have/had a Liberal gov't for the past number of years. Here is a great link to the info. You folks should get after it!
http://nbnaturalgas.ca/nb-natural-gas/

David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks its fairly obvious that you don't live in new Brunswick N'esy Pas?

Ken Komatich
Some carbon producers are more equal than other carbon producers I guess.....coincidence that it is on east coast, where they swept all the seats.

David Amos
@Ken Komatich Methinks it was Harper and his malicious contempt towards Maritimers that caused Trudeau The Younger and his cohorts to win every seat in 2015. In 2019 everybody knows Harper 2.0 will get the loyal Conservative ridings back without much effort on his part. However the lawyer Rob Moore may have a little trouble getting his seat back in Fundy N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

Joe Rocket
I’m surprised there isn’t a picture of McKenna wearing a whiplash collar.

David Amos
@Joe Rocket "The Trudeau tax on everything tax."
Did you read my reply?
Did you read my reply?

David Amos
"New Brunswick Green Party Leader David **** said that tells him, lobbyists had their way with the first proposal."
DUHHH???
Methinks somebody should tell the dude whom you can't type his name that NB Power is a Crown Corp Thus they don't need lobbyists to hustles the same people they work for. However methinks many folks would pay to see the lawyer McKenna argue the Crown's lawyers about why the Crown should tax itself N'esy Pas?
DUHHH???
Methinks somebody should tell the dude whom you can't type his name that NB Power is a Crown Corp Thus they don't need lobbyists to hustles the same people they work for. However methinks many folks would pay to see the lawyer McKenna argue the Crown's lawyers about why the Crown should tax itself N'esy Pas?

Ken Komatich
@David Amos The feds own NB power? Manitoba Hydro is a provincial corp, and they are paying the full freight, like every other power corp not in a area the libs are depending on for re election

David Amos
@Ken Komatich NB Power Is a CROWN Corp not a Fed Corp get it?

David Amos
@Ken Komatich FYI made this comment earlier
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-scott-moe-announcement-1.4882428
@Joe Rocket "The Trudeau tax on everything tax."
I agree with Scheer in that the carbon tax rebate is just a liberal gimmick to save face and try to buy some votes before the next election is upon them all. However Trudeau the Younger did not help his buddy Premier Gallant with his new plan just as he is trying to secure a minority mandate. Clearly there is no love loss between them and the federal liberals have written Gallant off.
However as soon as I read this article I thought of the Premier's big Pow Wow in New Brunswick close to the Yankee border last summer and the light dawned on my marblehead. If anyone wishes to recall Gallant backtracked and inter provincial trade etc after the big win about beer in the Supreme Court. Clearly he knew he had fallen out of favour within his own party so he was looking find new buddies no matter the colour of the political coat The Throne Speech on Oct 23rd proved it in spades. N'esy Pas?
With all this in mind I made one comment then got on the phone to Premier Ford's office and his Attorney General's Offices as well (The call to Ford was recorded by them with my permission) I discussed the emails I had sent them and I have heard nothing further from them today but I did recive another interesting emaill from a former wannabe Ontario PC leader.
Months ago I talked to Premier Moe's office about Carbon Tax etc and they did respond to my email but I have heard nothing more since Moe came to New Brunswick. Go Figure why I am running or public office again next year.

George Jones
Ford, Moe and Palliser are going to have an absolute heyday with this. Get the popcorn ready.

David Amos
@George Jones Welcome to the Circus I grabbed a ringside seat already and am willing to share my popcorn if your shoes ain't shiny

nancy smith
Just simply shameful .

David Amos
@nancy smith Nope its comical

nancy smith
CM you have turned this into a spectacle . A shameful spectacle

David Amos
@nancy smith Yes it is all just part of the Circus

nancy smith
Canadians how can you not be enraged at this??????????????????

David Amos
@nancy smith Relax

Don Cameron
-"...Ottawa proposes looser rules on coal plants"-
Doesn't this defeat the very essence of the 'carbon tax'?
Coal plants should have the very highest levels of carbon taxation.
Doesn't this defeat the very essence of the 'carbon tax'?
Coal plants should have the very highest levels of carbon taxation.

Elias Snodgrass
@Don Cameron
Carbon is not a pollutant, and it was never about the environment anyway
It's just a tx grab
Carbon is not a pollutant, and it was never about the environment anyway
It's just a tx grab

David Amos
@Don Cameron "Doesn't this defeat the very essence of the 'carbon tax'? "
Hush now you may spoil the Circus Lets see what the dippy lawyer says next.
Hush now you may spoil the Circus Lets see what the dippy lawyer says next.

David Amos
@Elias Snodgrass YUP

Anthony Kennedy
As this whole fiasco progresses it becomes more and more clear that this about politics and not greenhouse gas emissions.

David Amos
@Anthony Kennedy Methinks everybody knows everything political is always about the money N'esy Pas?
NB Power to dodge major carbon taxes after Ottawa proposes looser rules on coal plants
Greenhouse gas bill for Belledune station could fall to less than $1 per tonne after policy change

In a climate-policy retreat over the treatment of coal, federal Liberals are proposing to loosen emission standards for power plants that burn the fuel, effectively lowering carbon taxes on each tonne of greenhouse gas released from coal-burning stations, like NB Power's Belledune, next year to less than $1.
That could mean significant benefits for New Brunswick consumers, eliminating the need for power rate increases to pay for carbon taxes.
But it also undermines federal claims made as recently as last week that major greenhouse gas polluters, like Belledune, would pay the most under Canada's new carbon pricing scheme
Federal Environment Minister Catherine McKenna's office explained a federal commitment to ban coal generating stations in 2030 makes heavy carbon taxes on coal unnecessary given the costs it would impose on electricity customers.
"A price on pollution is one way to reduce pollution from the electricity sector — but it's not the only way," wrote Caroline Theriault, McKenna's press secretary, in an email to CBC News.
"One of the most important measures to reduce pollution from electricity is our commitment to phase out traditional coal power by 2030, all while ensuring a just transition for coal workers and communities through the Just Transition Taskforce."
The proposed exemption for coal is so large it will eliminate most of the carbon taxes New Brunswick's biggest greenhouse gas emitter, NB Power, was warned it would be facing just six months ago.
It would also allow it to continue releasing most of the greenhouse gases it currently produces at its coal-fired generating station in Belledune for free.
Federal Environment Catherine McKenna's office explained Ottawa's commitment to ban coal generating stations in 2030 makes heavy carbon taxes on coal unnecessary given the costs it would impose on electricity customers. (Justin Tang/Canadian Press)According to federal records, the Belledune generating station, which burns a combination of coal and petroleum coke, emits 838 tonnes of greenhouse gases for every gigawatt hour of electricity it produces.
The new federal proposal would exempt 800 tonnes of that from carbon taxes.
That will allow 95.5 per cent of Belledune's greenhouse gas emissions to pass through its giant 168-metre smoke stack for free and will slash NB Power's carbon tax bill at Belledune next year to $2.5 million.
That is an effective carbon tax rate for Belledune next year — which emits up to 2.8 million tonnes of greenhouse gasses annually — of just 91 cents per tonne.
It's a stunning change in the carbon tax fortunes of NB Power.
Belledune was the second largest source of greenhouse gases in Atlantic Canada in 2016, behind the Irving Oil Ltd. refinery in Saint John. Last week, federal officials were indicating it would be operations like Belledune hit hardest by national carbon taxes.
"Pollution is not free and we all have to pay for it," said federal Liberal cabinet minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor last week at an event announcing how New Brunswick families would be shielded from carbon taxes by federal rebates.
Federal Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor, the Liberal MP for Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe, said at a news conference on carbon taxes last week that "pollution is not free and we all have to pay for it." (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)"We certainly want to make sure that the big polluters, the big emitters, are the ones that are paying and not New Brunswick families."
Last year, NB Power sketched out scenarios for what a full carbon tax applied to its fossil fuel-burning generating stations would cost it and customers.
It included a worst case 22 per cent, carbon-driven rate hike over nine years, most of it caused by emissions at Belledune.
Dale Beugin, the executive director of the Ecofiscal Commission, an environmental and economic think tank, said he believes the new proposal on coal will mean no carbon tax power rate increases at all will now be required in New Brunswick.
But he said he is concerned treating coal too generously will slow down the transition to other fuels.
"I do worry that the coal-specific standard undermines incentives to switch to gas, though the coal phase out may address that concern over time," said Beugin.
Last spring, Ottawa proposed that all fossil fuel-burning generating stations be treated the same with the first 420 tonnes of greenhouse gases per gigawatt hour of electricity produced exempt from carbon taxes and everything above that subject to a charge.
That gave natural gas an enormous cost advantage over coal and oil that was designed to encourage fuel switching at plants.
But that plan was abandoned in favour of new, fuel-specific limits that are tougher on natural gas and looser on coal and oil.
Now, natural gas stations face carbon taxes on emissions above 370 tonnes, oil on emissions above 550 tonnes and coal above 800 tonnes, a major concession to coal plants.
New Brunswick Green Party Leader David Coon says that tells him, lobbyists had their way with the first proposal. (CBC)New Brunswick Green Party Leader David Coon said that tells him, lobbyists had their way with the first proposal.
"The price business is so open to being gamed and influenced by lobbying and that's exactly what's been happening," said Coon
"We need to have legally binding caps that are ratcheted down over time on emissions."
Federal officials say the new emission and carbon tax standards for fossil fuel generators are proposals only and could still be adjusted further.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and PracticesThat could mean significant benefits for New Brunswick consumers, eliminating the need for power rate increases to pay for carbon taxes.
But it also undermines federal claims made as recently as last week that major greenhouse gas polluters, like Belledune, would pay the most under Canada's new carbon pricing scheme
Federal Environment Minister Catherine McKenna's office explained a federal commitment to ban coal generating stations in 2030 makes heavy carbon taxes on coal unnecessary given the costs it would impose on electricity customers.
"A price on pollution is one way to reduce pollution from the electricity sector — but it's not the only way," wrote Caroline Theriault, McKenna's press secretary, in an email to CBC News.
The proposed exemption for coal is so large it will eliminate most of the carbon taxes New Brunswick's biggest greenhouse gas emitter, NB Power, was warned it would be facing just six months ago.
It would also allow it to continue releasing most of the greenhouse gases it currently produces at its coal-fired generating station in Belledune for free.

The new federal proposal would exempt 800 tonnes of that from carbon taxes.
That will allow 95.5 per cent of Belledune's greenhouse gas emissions to pass through its giant 168-metre smoke stack for free and will slash NB Power's carbon tax bill at Belledune next year to $2.5 million.
That is an effective carbon tax rate for Belledune next year — which emits up to 2.8 million tonnes of greenhouse gasses annually — of just 91 cents per tonne.
Stunning change in carbon tax fortunes
It's a stunning change in the carbon tax fortunes of NB Power.
Belledune was the second largest source of greenhouse gases in Atlantic Canada in 2016, behind the Irving Oil Ltd. refinery in Saint John. Last week, federal officials were indicating it would be operations like Belledune hit hardest by national carbon taxes.
"Pollution is not free and we all have to pay for it," said federal Liberal cabinet minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor last week at an event announcing how New Brunswick families would be shielded from carbon taxes by federal rebates.

Last year, NB Power sketched out scenarios for what a full carbon tax applied to its fossil fuel-burning generating stations would cost it and customers.
It included a worst case 22 per cent, carbon-driven rate hike over nine years, most of it caused by emissions at Belledune.
Change could slow down transition to other fuels
Dale Beugin, the executive director of the Ecofiscal Commission, an environmental and economic think tank, said he believes the new proposal on coal will mean no carbon tax power rate increases at all will now be required in New Brunswick.
But he said he is concerned treating coal too generously will slow down the transition to other fuels.
"I do worry that the coal-specific standard undermines incentives to switch to gas, though the coal phase out may address that concern over time," said Beugin.
That gave natural gas an enormous cost advantage over coal and oil that was designed to encourage fuel switching at plants.
But that plan was abandoned in favour of new, fuel-specific limits that are tougher on natural gas and looser on coal and oil.
Now, natural gas stations face carbon taxes on emissions above 370 tonnes, oil on emissions above 550 tonnes and coal above 800 tonnes, a major concession to coal plants.

"The price business is so open to being gamed and influenced by lobbying and that's exactly what's been happening," said Coon
"We need to have legally binding caps that are ratcheted down over time on emissions."
Federal officials say the new emission and carbon tax standards for fossil fuel generators are proposals only and could still be adjusted further.