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No matter what Higgy and his many minions may wish to claim it is the Lieutenant Governor who decides whether to drop the writ or not

 

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Tuesday, 17 October 2023

Legislature set for new session with election still a possibility
 
 

Legislature set for new session with election still a possibility

Higgs says throne speech will go ahead, but campaign depends on his caucus

It remains unclear whether Premier Blaine Higgs will allow the legislature to go the distance or go the polls.

Normally MLAs would spend weeks debating legislation this fall and vote on a new budget next March, then continue sitting through to an adjournment next June.

Higgs may instead opt to load today's Speech from the Throne with good-news announcements and then dissolve the legislature within days for the early election he's been hinting about, says Opposition Liberal Leader Susan Holt.

A man in a suit gestures in front of a podium while a man stands behind him. Asked when he'll decide on an election call, Premier Blaine Higgs said Monday it 'depends how things go in caucus. I guess that would be the answer to that. But so far, so good.' (CBC)

Another rumour she said she has heard is he'd inject something into the throne speech that six rebellious Progressive Conservative MLAs would feel obligated to vote against — triggering an election that he could blame on them.

Higgs told CBC News in Ottawa on Monday night that the new session will open as scheduled but he wouldn't commit to much more than that, saying it would hinge on his MLAs.

"We're delivering the throne speech, so we're looking forward to that. I expect all of them, everyone, to be present," he said.

Asked when he'll decide on an election call, he said it "depends how things go in caucus. I guess that would be the answer to that. But so far, so good." 

A woman with blond hair is looking into the camera and speaking. New Brunswick Liberal Leader Susan Holt says Higgs has to make a decision one way or the other about an election. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Holt said Monday that Higgs needs to make up his mind. 

"We're spending a lot of time spinning our wheels wondering whether the premier's going to call an election, when we could be actually providing people with affordable housing or putting civil servants to work trying to deliver health care to New Brunswickers," she said.

"Some of us are really tired of this and want him to decide, make it clear and get on with it." 

Green Leader David Coon also considers those two scenarios to be the most likely.

"I don't think we'll be there very long because this premier wants to call an election and he's looking for the first opportunity to do so," Coon said.

A man speaks while wearing glasses and a yellow shirt. Green Party Leader David Coon said he doesn't think the new session of the legislature will last long. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

Six PC MLAs voted with Holt's Liberals in June on their motion calling on the government to hold more consultations with the child and youth advocate on Policy 713, which sets out guidelines for creating safe spaces for LGBTQ students in provincial schools.

Higgs sidelined those MLAs for the summer, refusing to meet them as a group. Two resigned from his cabinet and two others, who were ministers, were shuffled out.

The premier announced Sept. 15 he'll lead the PC party into the next election, which is officially scheduled for Oct. 21, 2024.

But he said the day of that announcement that the recalcitrance of the six MLAs — who would hold the balance of power in the legislature if they voted as a bloc — remained "a big concern."

A grid of six individuals. Three on the top row: a woman, a man, and another woman. Three on the bottom row are all men. From top left to right, Andrea Anderson-Mason, Trevor Holder, Dorothy Shephard, Daniel Allain, Ross Wetmore and Jeff Carr. The six PC MLAs broke ranks with Higgs in June over changes to Policy 713, the gender-identity policy for schools, and were not at Tuesday's meeting. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Those six MLAs have since committed, to varying degrees, to support him on confidence votes and on legislation in order to avoid forcing New Brunswickers to the polls.

But Higgs said earlier this month that the very fact those MLAs signed a collective pledge to that effect in August shows they're operating as "an independent group" that could break ranks with him.

"A government cannot function in this manner," he said.

The six MLAs turned down or did not not respond to interview requests from CBC News on Monday.

Holt said she expects the session to be as dramatic and chaotic as the final week of sitting days in June.

That saw the vote by the six MLAs, followed by the withdrawal of a government bill that would have taken away decision-making powers from anglophone district education councils.

"I haven't seen any change from the premier, and this is a drama of his own causing," Holt said.

"He is focused on what he thinks is best and is not prepared to listened to his own team members or anyone else." 

The Liberals and Greens offered similar lists of issues they plan to focus on in the new session, including the cost of living, health care, housing and the environment.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

With files from Kate McKenna

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67Comments
 
 

David R. Amos
 
No matter what Higgy and his many minions may wish to claim it is the Lieutenant Governor who decides whether to drop the writ or not  
 
 
 
David R. Amos 
Former education minister Dominic Cardy, who resigned last October and was ejected from the PC caucus, said an election isn't necessary to remove Higgs from office.

He told reporters that if the premier visits Lt.-Gov. Brenda Murphy and asked her to dissolve the house, she should instead ask the PC caucus if another of its members could take over and lead a government with majority support in the legislature.

Cardy acknowledged that move, while possible in the parliamentary system, is rare but not out of the question.

"The lieutenant-governor's job is to ascertain whether there's anybody else who can command the majority of the house," he said.

"I'm saying there are very clearly people who could do that job. The premier has shown today he can't even command his own caucus, his own cabinet."



David R. Amos 

"Duff Conacher of Democracy Watch has gone to court in Ottawa and in various provinces trying to force prime ministers and premiers to comply with fixed-date laws"
 
 
 
David R. Amos
 
I just heard Green Leader's two scenarios on the radio and knew that he has been reading my words on his topic 




Ronald Miller   
Another session will be underway and this gov't will continue to move NB forward as no other gov't has before them. 
 
 
Bobby Richards 
Reply to Ronald Miller 
Without these 6 the premier is no longer in control. They are.  
 
 
Ronald Miller 
Reply to Bobby Richards  
That does not appear to be an issue, unless you believe everything you read on this site. 
 
 
David R. Amos 
  
Reply to Bobby Richards  
BINGO   
 
 
David R. Amos
Reply to Bobby Richards  
I continue to maintain that Allian will be the next Leader/Premier



 
Benny Swim  
Higgs said the election call will depend on how things go in caucus. But is that not part of the problem, he's only meeting with the members of his party who throw rose petals on the ground as he approaches? He is not meeting with anyone who disagrees with him.

Doesn't that sound a lot like another ego-driven politician who is running for re-election in the U.S.?

And why is Holt waiting on Higgs to do anything? She should on a daily basis be telling NBers what she will do if she replaces Higgs, not sitting around waiting for him to make a decision.

 
David R. Amos
 
Reply to Benny Swim  
Welcome back to the circus



 
April Wine  
A seven year old can save all the money you give them. I don't see Higgs running a chain of lemonade stands. But he's got lots of lemons.  

 
Ronald Miller 
Reply to April Wine  
He also has the majority firmly behind him because strong fiscal management is important to people who understand its long term importance.
 
 
Ronald Miller 
Reply to April Wine 
What a seven year old does is spend money as soon as it hits his/her pocket, and then borrow more, we have a seven year old running our country. 
 
 
David R. Amos
Reply to Ronald Miller 
Do the tally

23 Wannabe in control PCs

16 Liberals

3 Greens

1 Independent

6 PCs sitting on the fence

Who rules the roost?

 
Thomas Mesheau 
Reply to Ronald Miller 
Strong fiscal management? How many innocent nb'ers have perished for them to get that 1B? It's quite embarrassing actually. 
 
 
Ronald Miller 
Reply to Thomas Mesheau
Good point, no one ever perished when a premier ran a deficit. Answer to your question, NO ONE, if you can prove otherwise, please do, bring on more crickets. 
 
 
Thomas Mesheau 
Reply to Ronald Miller 
You've missed my point. Higgs has neglected spending to the point of innocent nb'ers passing in our waiting rooms or from lack of care. It's disgusting and quite embarrassing to see people continue to support him. 
 
 
Ronald Miller 
   
Reply to Thomas Mesheau
People pass away in hospitals, not new.  
 
 
Ronald Miller 
Reply to Thomas Mesheau
Our healthcare budget has increased at record amounts, look it up.  
 
 
Thomas Mesheau 
  
Reply to Ronald Miller 
In the waiting room??? due to lack of care and services because our premier has been pulling back healthcare funding??? Higgs should be locked away for negligent homicide. 
 
 
Ronald Miller 
  
Reply to Thomas Mesheau
Someone got an "A" in drama. Severe staff shortages that caused waiting room issues during covid were country wide, wake up. 

 
Thomas Mesheau 
Reply to Ronald Miller 
Kind of hard to fund your health care system when you're stashing money away for a 1B surplus. Its both amazing and sad to see old people in NB vote for someone who has absolutely no interest in keeping your generation vertical.  
 

Donald LeBlanc 
Reply to Ronald Miller 
True,,,,but all the other provinces did wake up and urgently decided to rebuild their staff with significant increases in compensation, including retention bonuses and trying everything possible to recruit to staffing levels that guarantee excellent patient care and serious reduction in staff burnout. Higgs' solution to the GROWING staff shortage (1200 RNs), hire Travel Nurses on short-term contracts at twice the rate of pay until they burnout or their contract runs out, whichever comes first. That's what passes for a good Premier/Manager? Of course the other provinces want to rebuild their public health care systems. Higgs...not so much.  
 
 
Ronald Miller 
Reply to Thomas Mesheau 
Budgets and surpluses are not created by stashing money away, you have much to learn. 
 

Ronald Miller 
Reply to Donald LeBlanc 
Higgs does not deal with nurse retention programs, there are staff in those areas that do that. I know many of you think Higgs is all powerful and runs all the services in this province by himself but common sense says otherwise.  
 
 
Thomas Mesheau 
Reply to Ronald Miller 
Surpluses are most certainly created by axed spending, namely in healthcare, which we see leads to unnecessary and preventable death. Touch grass ronald. 
 
 
David R. Amos
Reply to David R. Amos
Premier Blaine Higgs and Moncton East MLA Daniel Allain arrive at the legislature together Tuesday for the Speech from the Throne. Allain is one of six Tory MLAs who voted with the Liberal and Green opposition in June to pass a motion calling for further consultations on Policy 713. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)


 
 
 

Higgs throne speech avoids provocations, instead calls for unity

Moncton East MLA rejects ‘rebel’ label as address sets out vague agenda

The Higgs government has laid out a mostly vague agenda for the coming year that promises few new initiatives while trying to lower the temperature in the polarized gender-identity debate.

The Speech from the Throne, delivered Tuesday, urges New Brunswickers to reject "misinformation that stokes fear, distrust and division."

It also avoids any provocative new statements or promises about Policy 713, which sets out standards for LGBTQ-positive classrooms in provincial schools.

Changes to that policy in the spring sparked a revolt in the Progressive Conservative caucus, leading Premier Blaine Higgs to threaten a snap election this fall to end the instability in his government.

People holding up pride flag in foreground, legistlative assembly in background. Opponents of the review of Policy 713 demonstrated outside the New Brunswick legislature in June. (Radio-Canada)

Higgs mused during the summer about invoking the Constitution's notwithstanding clause to shield his changes from a legal challenge.

Those changes, which require parents give consent if their children want to change their names or pronouns, are now the subject of a court action.

Tuesday's speech does not commit the government to using the clause and simply restates Higgs's earlier comments in generic language.

"As we work together, your government is committed to creating a safe and welcoming learning environment for all students, while still respecting the role of parents," said the speech drafted by the government and read by Lt.-Gov. Brenda Murphy.

Misinformation warning

In another section, the speech notes that the New Brunswick Human Rights Commission has warned of misinformation fuelling polarization.

"We must never condone violence, intimidation or intolerance in any form. In order to move forward, it is important that we keep communicating in a respectful way and that we show acceptance of one another." 

Six PC MLAs voted with the Liberal and Green opposition in June to pass a motion calling for further consultations on Policy 713 by New Brunswick's child and youth advocate — who later issued a scathing report calling the changes a human rights violation.

A grid of six individuals. Three on the top row: a woman, a man, and another woman. Three on the bottom row are all men. From top left to right, Andrea Anderson-Mason, Trevor Holder, Dorothy Shephard, Daniel Allain, Ross Wetmore and Jeff Carr. The six PC MLAs broke ranks with Higgs in June over changes to Policy 713, the gender-identity policy for schools. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

The Canadian Civil Liberties Association has launched a legal challenge to the move, and any talk of short-circuiting that case might lead some of those six MLAs to break ranks again in a vote on the throne speech Oct. 27.

A defeat on the throne speech vote would trigger an election.

Instead there were signs Tuesday that both Higgs and one of the six breakaway MLAs were trying to patch up the feud.

Higgs told CBC News that a Monday caucus meeting that included the six MLAs "went fine," and one of those MLAs, Daniel Allain, called it "very positive."

"I want to work with the government. That's why I'm here today," Allain told reporters.

"We had a good discussion. Not everything gets sorted out in one day. But I hope, I'm convinced we'll have a good Throne Speech today," said Allain, who represents Moncton East.

"At the end of the day we're part of one party. It's called the Progressive Conservative party. It's important for me to be that progressive part and we're going to have a great throne speech today." 

Asked if he was still a member of the group of six MLAs who rebelled in June, Allain said, "There's no 'member of the six.' I'm part of the Progressive Conservative caucus." 

The next election is officially scheduled for Oct. 21, 2024, but nothing prevents Higgs from calling one early. 

In either scenario, Tuesday's throne speech is the last one of the government's mandate and it mostly recaps initiatives the Tories have already launched.

There are two nods to new moves to address the high cost of living.

The speech promises a new legislated "spike protection mechanism" to cap property tax increases at 10 per cent in 2025. The housing strategy released earlier this year included a promise to "explore" making it permanent.

And the speech says the government "will consider additional improvements" to income tax and property tax legislation to ensure the province "remains attractive and competitive."

Finance Minister Ernie Steeves promised on Sept. 27 to deliver new measures "fairly soon" to provide relief from high inflation and said his preference was tax cuts.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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59Comments
 
 

David R. Amos
Time for a nap  
 
 
 
Kyle Woodman 
Chicken 🐔


Andrew Clarkson 
Reply to Kyle Woodman  
I like chicken, maybe a little gravy! 
 
 
David R. Amos
Reply to Andrew Clarkson 
Me too 
 



SarahRose Werner
What I got from this article is that October 27 is when we find whether or not we're having an election this fall. 
 
 

Reply to SarahRose Werner 
How many times do I have to say..try April or middle of May...  
 
 
Michael Cain 
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You are new here, don't know the politics. 

Reply to Michael Cain
I am new and I like to give everyone some credit if I feel it's warranted. I don't believe in "party politics". I believe we should be electing people on their own merit thus allowing them to speak on their constituencies behalf.

Reply to SarahRose Werner
I really cannot understand why some posters are so tied to their parpty no matter what..interesting actually..   
 
 
David R. Amos
 
Reply to
Why play dumb?

"??? I for one do not follow USA POLITICS..please explain if you don't mind"

 
 
 
 
Wilbur Ross  
New Brunswick ... Canada's answer to Arkansas.  
 
 
 
Reply to Wilbur Ross 
??? I for one do not follow USA POLITICS..please explain if you don't mind


Wilbur Ross 
Reply to  
Use Google. I haven't got time.





 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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