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Miramichi Lake cottage owners say they've been left in the dark about pesticide spraying plans

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Miramichi Lake cottage owners say they've been left in the dark about pesticide spraying plans

Working group has permit to spray lake to eradicate invasive smallmouth bass

Austin Greenlaw, who has lived on the lake for 30 years, is one of four locals who say they've been against the spraying of pesticide — which they refer to as "poison"— since it started last fall.

There are about 15 cottages around the lake, which covers two square kilometres and is located about 60 kilometres north of Fredericton.

"Nobody's heard a thing," said Greenlaw, calling it a "complete blackout" of information from the organization in charge, the Working Group on Smallmouth Bass Eradication in the Miramichi.

The group, which is made up of six different organizations, has been trying for the past three years to use the pesticide rotenone to kill invasive smallmouth bass before it takes over the habitat of salmon, trout and other species in the lake, and spreads to the Miramichi River.

A spokesperson for the Department of Fisheries and Oceans confirmed the working group's permit for this project is valid until Dec. 31, 2026.

Neville Crabbe, the working group's spokesperson, told CBC News last week there isn't a plan to continue spraying, but the group was "in discussions" about the next step.

When asked if lake residents were well-informed about the spraying, Crabbe said yes. But a group of four cottagers said they feel differently. 

Scott Bell, a cottage owner who has lived on the lake his whole life, said when the project first was slated to go ahead in 2021, the working group was in communications with residents for the first year.

"Then they pretty much cut off communications and became very closed-mouth, secretive," Bell said. "We've lost a lot of trust in Neville Crabbe."

Neville Crabbe stands in the woods near Miramichi Lake Neville Crabbe, spokesperson for the Working Group on Smallmouth Bass Eradication in the Miramichi, told CBC News the group is "in discussions" about future plans for spraying rotenone on the lake. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

Crabbe did not return a request for an interview about the cottager's concerns, but had told CBC News in an email last week that the working group would not be making any more public comments until there was clear direction on the project.

Greenlaw said this summer has been stressful, wondering when and if the spraying will continue.

"It's not the same out here," Greenlaw said, "Knowing that the hammer might be dropping."

Bell has similar sentiments.

"I wake up in the middle of the night, thinking about it," he said. "It's always on your mind."

Call for 'sober second thought'

Greenlaw said he wants to know how many bass, the intended target, were killed in the first round of spraying last September, and how many other species, including salmon, were also killed. 

The working group sprayed rotenone on nearby waters, but still hasn't sprayed the lake itself to complete the process.

Greenlaw said the residents aren't anti-salmon, but they'd rather see other prevention measures like containment barriers, netting and electrofishing instead of spraying.

"It's really like brain surgery with an axe to come in here and poison the lake," said Greenlaw. 

Cottages on Miramichi Lake, as seen from a drone shot There are about 15 cottages on Miramichi Lake. Several families have been there for generations. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

The cottagers say they are advocating for a "sober second thought," and that the project should be halted.

Greenlaw said he wants the working group's plan to be studied more, adding that property values around the lake will be "decimated."

But, he said, he feels that the group has invested too much to simply walk away.

"I think we all feel that this is going to continue until at some point no permits are signed and the thing just has to be put to bed."

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19 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos
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What if Higgy had a camp on this lake?
 
 
 
 
G. Timothy Walton 
They might be better off using explosives – no longterm effects beyond disturbing sediment, and it wouldn't travel downstream.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to G. Timothy Walton
Good idea
 
 
 
 
William Peters 
Silence is golden. Corporations and governments understand this. Unless you want to invite pushback and being put to task...
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to William Peters
Par for the course
 
 
 

Mario Doucet
these people don't own the lake so they have no say


Mario Doucet
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according to the property maps these cottage owners properties end at the shore line
 
 
Alison Jackson
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Reply to Mario Doucet
"Your account exists solely to be the 'anti' of everything that is posted. Doesn't matter what the su..."
 
 
David Amos 
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My account is for real 
 
 
William Peters 
Reply to Mario Doucet
No say in the fact there will be externalities which no one will be responsible for? You might feel differently if I was given the OK to spraying your surroundings without your consent. You might want to know about it so you could not be there or sell your property to some unsuspecting person. When no one has to say a word people wake up surprised one day. 
 
 
Maddy Bell
Reply to Mario Doucet
You’re right they don’t own the lake, but many have grown up there as I am one of the 5th generations in my family to be at this lake. The poison could also have the same impact on us children, adults and our pets as it would on the other wildlife. It's unknown of how long the poison will roam in the waters, therefore causing a great negative impact on our lake.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Mario Doucet
So you say
 
 
David Amos
Reply to William Peters 
I have said lots for many years. The awful truth is nobody cares
 
 
Don Corey
Reply to David Amos
Absolutely. 
 
 
Don Corey
Reply to Mario Doucet
Why? It's still a free country isn't it? People are entitled to voice their individual opinions/thoughts that will generally run contrary to the views of some others.

In this particular case, they should certainly be (at the very least) kept well informed by Crabbe's group.

Such is obviously not the case.

 

 

John Playerson  
It would make sense to catch the fish and put them to good use on peoples tables. rather then poison them. Do they use poison for the zebra muscles problem? 
 
 
John Playerson  
Plus they could have fishing derbies, with prizes for the most small mouth bass caught, with no limit for take home dining.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to John Playerson 
Bingo
 
 
 
 
Don Corey  
Greenlaw said the residents aren't anti-salmon, but they'd rather see other prevention measures like containment barriers, netting and electrofishing instead of spraying.

"It's really like brain surgery with an axe to come in here and poison the lake," said Greenlaw.

In my opinion Mr. Greenlaw has summed the situation up quite well.

 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
They are also correct in not trusting Mr Crabbe 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Go figure why I don't

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Nazi-Coin Case In Hands Of Judge

Robert McCorkill bequeathed a valuable collection of rare coins to an American hate group. His sister is trying to stop the transfer. A two-day trial wrapped up yesterday in Saint John. The CBC's Neville Crabbe was there.

 
Don Corey
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Hmmm.....gotta check that out.  
 
 
 
 
Mike Barkman 
Troll the lake with nets like mankind has done for millenia. Pick out the good fish, keep the smallmouth bass. Ya don't dump poison in it, lol. Like what are you seriously doing? A pesticide in a lake will surely wipe out many different animals and fish and even the insects the fish and birds eat. This is the most backward approach I have seen.
 
 
David Amos
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Well put
 
 
 
 Statement from the Working Group on Smallmouth Bass Eradication in the Miramichi

September 12, 2022

On September 8th, crews completed Phase 1 of the conservation project to remove illegally
introduced, invasive smallmouth bass from the Miramichi watershed. A rotenone product was
applied to Lake Brook and approximately 15 kilometers of the Southwest Miramichi River.

The application took 6-hours and rotenone was deactivated at the downstream extent of the
project area. By late evening on September 10th, testing at our deactivation site indicated that
the rotenone had been completely flushed from the project area and was successfully
deactivated. This ensured that the effects of the project were limited to the treatment area.
Treating Lake Brook and the short stretch of the river where smallmouth bass are known to be
present is a step forward in the effort to eradicate this invasive fish from the Miramichi
watershed. However, the established population of smallmouth bass in Miramichi Lake, which
was the source of smallmouth bass found in the brook and river, continues to threaten the
ecosystem and native species of the Miramichi watershed.

Phase 2 of the project calls for a simultaneous treatment of Miramichi Lake, Lake Brook, and
the 15-km stretch of the Southwest Miramichi River.

For more information contact:
Neville Crabbe
(506) 467-6804
ncrabbe@asf.ca

The Working Group on Smallmouth Bass Eradication in the Miramichi was formed in 2016 to
restore the native ecosystem following an illegal introduction of smallmouth bass. Members
include Anqotum Resource Management, Atlantic Salmon Federation, Miramichi Salmon
Association, Miramichi Watershed Management Committee, New Brunswick Salmon Council,
New Brunswick Wildlife Federation, and North Shore Micmac District Council.
 
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