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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ontario-ndp-point-lepreau-nb-1.6807994 

 

Ontario NDP opposition questions utility's interest in 'money-losing' Point Lepreau

Energy critic says Ford government should block any deal to shift nuclear plan debt, risk to Ontario

NDP energy critic Peter Tabuns says the Doug Ford government should provide "clear assurance" that it would veto any deal that transfers any financial liability for Point Lepreau to Ontario Power Generation.

"We already have very expensive electricity in Ontario," Tabuns said in an interview.

"The idea that we would take on debt for someone else's generation problems just doesn't make any sense to me." 

A woman wears a black turtleneck and grey sweater, and smiles directly at the camera. N.B. Power CEO Lori Clark said the Crown corporation is looking at options for how the Ontario utility might be able to help run Lepreau better. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

N.B. Power confirmed that negotiations with Ontario Power could lead to the company taking an equity stake — partial ownership — in Point Lepreau, though it said that's only one of several options. 

Tabuns raised the issue in the Ontario legislature last week. 

"We need to focus on Ontario and its needs, not on problem plants in other provinces," he said during question period.

Ontario Energy Minister Todd Smith responded that the Progressive Conservative government would "wait and see what happens" in the negotiations. 

"Any deal will be in the best interest of Ontario ratepayers," Smith said. "You can take that to the bank." 

N.B. Power CEO Lori Clark told CBC News last week the Crown corporation is looking at a range of options for how the Ontario utility might be able to help run Lepreau better.

She said one of them could be "a separate entity" co-owned by the two utilities to manage the plant, allowing them to share profits and financial risk. 

A picture taken from the air of a nuclear power plant on the edge of the land next to the Bay of Fundy.   As of January, Point Lepreau had achieved only 55 per cent capacity for 2022-23, according to filings to the utilities board. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

The Point Lepreau plant has had a series of problems since a $2.4-billion refurbishment wrapped up in 2012 that increased the utility's debt.

As of January, the plant had achieved only 55 per cent capacity for 2022-23, according to N.B. Power's filings with the Energy and Utilities Board. 

That includes a 35-day outage that began Dec. 15 and stretched into January, wiping out all of the utility's projected profit for this year. 

Ontario Power Generation has a large fleet of nuclear reactors, giving it more experience dealing with shutdowns, Premier Blaine Higgs said last month. 

But Tabuns questioned why the Ontario utility would want to have any responsibility for what he called a money-losing plant.

Smith responded in the legislature by accusing the Ontario NDP of opposing the development of small modular nuclear reactors.

A man in a blue suit standing in a hallway with paintings on the walls. There are two handheld microphones in front of him. Premier Blaine Higgs has said Ontario Power has more experience dealing with shutdowns. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

In the question period exchange, Tabuns quoted N.B. Power saying that "all possible options" were on the table for Point Lepreau. The New Brunswick utility later clarified that it would not sell the power plant as a whole to Ontario Power Generation.

"You can own an awful lot of plant short of 100 per cent and still take on big liability," Tabuns said Wednesday.

"The idea of going into a joint venture in which Ontario Power Generation may be financially liable is not appealing either. I don't see why we should take on any liability in this case." 

Ontario is already spending billions of dollars subsidizing power rates because of a series of costly construction projects approved under a previous Liberal government, he said.

Tabuns said he plans to continue questioning the Ford government about a possible OPG-Lepreau agreement when the legislature returns next week.

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15 Comments

 

David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise  
 
 
 
David Amos 
Guess who I just called  
 
 
PHIL INNIS  
Reply to David Amos
The energy and utilities board 
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to PHIL INNIS
Nope Tabuns
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to David Amos 
Donald Trump ? 
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to David Amos 
Marjorie Taylor Greene ?  
 
 
David Amos   
  
Reply to Lou Bell
Do tell Madame Bell

Do you bother to read before posting your nonsense?

 
 
 
 

Douglas James 
Share profits? What profits?  
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Douglas James 
Its a secret  
 
 
 
 
 
Ernesto Rafael
New owners will have no choice but cut the politically appointed. 
 
 
Samual Johnston 
Reply to Ernesto Rafael
that would be a wonderful thing -- give them total control over all employees working there and then NB Power can get rid of all the employees back in Fredericton who oversee the mess. Good bye to the VP and a bunch of high paid managers, supervisors and maybe the couple of real workers left over can be transfered.
 
 
David Amos   
Reply to Samual Johnston   
Dream on

 

 
 
Lou Bell
Is the NDP still a party ? 


David Amos   
 
Reply to Lou Bell
Ask the sheople out west  
 
 
 
 
Alan Birch
Lou Bell 
Reply to Alan Birch 
Any Liberal 
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell 
Tabuns is certainly correct when he states Ontario is already spending billions of dollars subsidizing power rates becuse of a series of costly construction projects approved under a previous Liberal Government . Fiscal responsiblity and Liberals are like oil and water . Never gonna happen ! 

 

 

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Energy critic says Ford government should block any deal to shift
nuclear plan debt, risk to Ontario
CBC News · Posted: Apr 12, 2023 2:10 PM ADT | Last Updated: 27 minutes ago
A man with white hair and glasses in a suit stands in front of flags in a room.
NDP energy critic Peter Tabuns said taking on debt 'for someone else's
generation problems just doesn't make any sense.' (Chris Young/The
Canadian Press)

The NDP opposition in Ontario says the provincial government there
should block any agreement to have its Crown power utility share any
debt or financial risk from New Brunswick's Point Lepreau nuclear
power plant.

NDP energy critic Peter Tabuns says the Doug Ford government should
provide "clear assurance" that it would veto any deal that transfers
any financial liability for Point Lepreau to Ontario Power Generation.

"We already have very expensive electricity in Ontario," Tabuns said
in an interview.

"The idea that we would take on debt for someone else's generation
problems just doesn't make any sense to me."
A woman wears a black turtleneck and grey sweater, and smiles directly
at the camera.
N.B. Power CEO Lori Clark said the Crown corporation is looking at
options for how the Ontario utility might be able to help run Lepreau
better. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

N.B. Power confirmed that negotiations with Ontario Power could lead
to the company taking an equity stake — partial ownership — in Point
Lepreau, though it said that's only one of several options.

Tabuns raised the issue in the Ontario legislature last week.

"We need to focus on Ontario and its needs, not on problem plants in
other provinces," he said during question period.

Ontario Energy Minister Todd Smith responded that the Progressive
Conservative government would "wait and see what happens" in the
negotiations.

"Any deal will be in the best interest of Ontario ratepayers," Smith
said. "You can take that to the bank."

N.B. Power CEO Lori Clark told CBC News last week the Crown
corporation is looking at a range of options for how the Ontario
utility might be able to help run Lepreau better.

She said one of them could be "a separate entity" co-owned by the two
utilities to manage the plant, allowing them to share profits and
financial risk.
A picture taken from the air of a nuclear power plant on the edge of
the land next to the Bay of Fundy.
As of January, Point Lepreau had achieved only 55 per cent capacity
for 2022-23, according to filings to the utilities board. (Shane
Fowler/CBC)

The Point Lepreau plant has had a series of problems since a
$2.4-billion refurbishment wrapped up in 2012 that increased the
utility's debt.

As of January, the plant had achieved only 55 per cent capacity for
2022-23, according to N.B. Power's filings with the Energy and
Utilities Board.

    N.B. Power CEO says it's too early to commit to EUB oversight of
Lepreau deal

    Ontario utility could become partial owner of Point Lepreau nuclear plant

That includes a 35-day outage that began Dec. 15 and stretched into
January, wiping out all of the utility's projected profit for this
year.

Ontario Power Generation has a large fleet of nuclear reactors, giving
it more experience dealing with shutdowns, Premier Blaine Higgs said
last month.

But Tabuns questioned why the Ontario utility would want to have any
responsibility for what he called a money-losing plant.

Smith responded in the legislature by accusing the Ontario NDP of
opposing the development of small modular nuclear reactors.
A man in a blue suit standing in a hallway with paintings on the
walls. There are two handheld microphones in front of him.
Premier Blaine Higgs has said Ontario Power has more experience
dealing with shutdowns. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

In the question period exchange, Tabuns quoted N.B. Power saying that
"all possible options" were on the table for Point Lepreau. The New
Brunswick utility later clarified that it would not sell the power
plant as a whole to Ontario Power Generation.

"You can own an awful lot of plant short of 100 per cent and still
take on big liability," Tabuns said Wednesday.

    Premier says potential Lepreau sale 'shouldn't be a public debate'

    N.B. Power VP's salary closer to $1.3M, utility acknowledges

"The idea of going into a joint venture in which Ontario Power
Generation may be financially liable is not appealing either. I don't
see why we should take on any liability in this case."

Ontario is already spending billions of dollars subsidizing power
rates because of a series of costly construction projects approved
under a previous Liberal government, he said.

Tabuns said he plans to continue questioning the Ford government about
a possible OPG-Lepreau agreement when the legislature returns next
week.

CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices

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Good morning,

NB Power has transferred its 2022 Rate Design Application (Round 2)
interrogatory responses to the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities
Board's secure FTP site, in accordance with the approved schedule for
this Matter.

In addition to the documents transferred via FTP, please find the
following documents attached to this email:


  1.  IR responses (Round 2) for each of Board staff, Public
Intervener, David Amos, J.D. Irving Limited, and Utilities Municipal
  2.  Master List of Filing Documents

In order to access the filed documents please visit the following site
using the log-in information provided below:

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Account: Intervener5
Password: xxxxxxxxx

Per normal practice, responses containing information over which NB
Power is claiming confidentiality have been uploaded to a separate FTP
site.  All confidential documents are classified as Confidential
Restricted.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to respond to this email.

Kind regards,






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02-NBP Responses to Interrogatories (Round 2) of the Public Intervener (PI).pdf
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03-NBP Responses to Interrogatories (Round 2) of David Amos.pdf
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04-NBP Responses to Interrogatories (Round 2) of J.D. Irving Limited (JDI).pdf
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05-NBP Responses to Interrogatories (Round 2) of Utilities Municipal (UM).pdf
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