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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos Replying to @GovPhilScott
YO@realDonaldTrump@JustinTrudeau Just exactly how dumb are dudes such as Phil Scott and Philippe Couillard? @foxnewspolitics@ABCWorldNews@nytimes@CBCPolitics
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/08/just-exactly-how-dumb-are-dudes-such-as.html
#TrumpKnew#TrudeauMustGo
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http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/08/just-exactly-how-dumb-are-dudes-such-as.html
#TrumpKnew#TrudeauMustGo
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/premiers-governors-stowe-monday-1.4783736
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Raymond Bachand, who serves as Quebec's chief trade negotiator for the ongoing NAFTA talks, told reporters covering a meeting of Eastern Canadian premiers and New England Governors that the U.S. doesn't have legal authority to negotiate anything but a trilateral deal. (Jacques Boissinot/Canadian Press)
Raymond Bachand, an ex-Quebec finance minister, said "there is no worry whatsoever" the current one-on-one talks between the United States and Mexico will end in a trade deal signed without Canada.
Bilateral NAFTA negotiations between the two countries have been building momentum in recent weeks, while Canada has yet to return to the table this summer.
U.S. President Donald Trump recently stated a deal with Mexico "is coming along nicely" and "Canada must wait."
The president has also said he would be interested in signing separate deals with both countries.
Even if Trump really wanted that, Bachand said, he couldn't get it.
"If the U.S. wanted a bilateral deal — and they don't, they've repeated often they want a trilateral deal — they don't have legal authority.
"They have the authority from Congress to negotiate a trilateral NAFTA deal in a fast-track way — meaning Congress votes yes or no on the final deal once it's been reached. They don't have that (fast-track) authority for a bilateral deal."
Bachand made the comments in Stowe, Vt., during the two-day annual conference between governors of New England states and the premiers of Quebec and the eastern Canadian provinces.
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Not a single U.S. governor or senator has asked to pull their country out of NAFTA, Bachand said, which is Canada's true trump card in the negotiations, he added.
"So all the so-called modernization attempts the president wants with NAFTA, there is a kind of red line," Bachand said. "NAFTA will continue because the power in the U.S. Senate is very strong in commercial decisions, and governors also have a big influence."
On Sunday, Vermont Gov. Phil Scott and Quebec Premier Philippe Couillard signed a joint declaration on economic co-operation, despite the trade tensions between the two countries.
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Scott said the agreement "acknowledges our intertwined economies and solidifies our commitment to building cross-border trade."
Couillard said Monday one of the ways a new NAFTA deal will be reached is by convincing Americans who live outside the states that border Canada of how critical trade is for the economies of both countries.
Quebec's premier said he had breakfast with the eastern premiers and New England governors Monday and they "almost exclusively" talked about NAFTA.
"The border states understand well the level of integration of our economies," he said. "It's the rest of the country and the White House we have to work on."
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos Replying to @GovPhilScott
YO
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/08/just-exactly-how-dumb-are-dudes-such-as.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/premiers-governors-stowe-monday-1.4783736
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Just exactly how dumb are dudes such as Phil Scott and Philippe Couillard?
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/08/just-exactly-how-dumb-are-dudes-such-as.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/premiers-governors-stowe-monday-1.4783736
Trump can't reach NAFTA deal without Canada: Quebec chief negotiator
'No worry whatsoever' Raymond Bachand says, as U.S.-Mexico talks resume this week
The Canadian Press· Posted: Aug 13, 2018 3:59 PM ET Comments
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Commenting is now closed for this story.
David Amos
David Amos
Methinks everybody is entitled to know that I made the lawyer Raymond Bachand well aware of all the documents I sent his former lawyer boss Jean Charest who was a liberal premier and a Consevative Deputy Prime Minister. The file found within the link below is only portion of hundreds of documents that I sent to the sneaky Quebeckers in 2005 byway of registered US Mail before I returned to Canada to run for a seat in Parliament again. At least the Crown cannot deny that I have been arguing these documents and many more in Federal Court since 2015 N'esy Pas? https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER
David Amos
Methinks everybody knows that the ringmaster of the circus called the US Congress does not care what anyone from Quebec or anywhere else says about anything but the upcoming midterm election will tell the tale about how much control he truly has over the rest of the Yankee clowns N'esy Pas?
Neil Austen
I'm just happy the Liberals are fiscally responsible. Spending on infrastructure in the beginning to pull Canada out of the recession the Conservatives drowned Canada in and then when the economy recovered, started to spend wisely and now showing over $3 billion surplus in the beginning of this year.
Unlike Conservative Harper who drowned Canada in record debt of 184 billion and then in his last year hid $50 billion of it with accounting tricks and claimed a false balance budget.
Unlike Conservative Harper who drowned Canada in record debt of 184 billion and then in his last year hid $50 billion of it with accounting tricks and claimed a false balance budget.
David Amos
@Neil Austen Methinks you are way off topic N'esy Pas?
Eric Biallas
@Neil Austen I've seen this before? NO?
Roy T. Gilroy
@Neil Austen Again???? Copy paste, copy paste, regurgitated dribble, move on
David Amos
@Eric Biallas "I've seen this before? NO?"
Me Too
Me Too
Brent Grywinski
Trump is going to have a lot of unhappy governors and Republican Congressmen and Senators if NAFTA is terminated. There will also be a lot of Trump supporters losing their jobs unfortunately.
David Amos
@Brent Grywinski Methinks everybody knows that there will be at least one happy Maritimer if NAFTA goes the way of the Dodo Bird N'esy Pas?
Kevin Delaney
Trump wants to play NAFTA all the way to th mid terms. Beating up on Mexico & Canada feeds the base.
David Amos
@Kevin Delaney YUP
Kevin Delaney
Trump cannot get a NAFTA deal without Canada.
America will not get a NAFTA deal with Trump.
Trump needs to be made irrelevant. That will take place in Nov 2018.
America will not get a NAFTA deal with Trump.
Trump needs to be made irrelevant. That will take place in Nov 2018.
David Amos
@Kevin Delaney "Trump cannot get a NAFTA deal without Canada.
YUP
America will not get a NAFTA deal with Trump.
YUP
Trump needs to be made irrelevant. That will take place in Nov 2018.
NOPE
YUP
America will not get a NAFTA deal with Trump.
YUP
Trump needs to be made irrelevant. That will take place in Nov 2018.
NOPE
Maxim Verite
Since Quebec often can't reach a deal with Canada on anything, I take this guy with a grain of salt.
Or 12.
Or 12.
David Amos
@Maxim Verite Methinks many Maritimers would need a pound of salt to deal with this Fancy French Former Finance Minister N'esy Pas?
Barbara Leblanc
More smoke and mirrors from self-serving Trump that, quite frankly, are getting tiresome. Canada and Mexico are not falling for it and just ignore him and let him sound off to his base who think he is causing division and panic. They are fast becoming the only ones who take anything he says with any seriousness.
David Amos
@Barbara Leblanc Methinks we should follow his lead and give up on NAFTA altogether N'esy Pas?
Albert Johnson
"The Trump administration doesn't have the legal authority to sideswipe Canada and sign a bilateral trade deal with Mexico..."
Unfortunately, Trump has proven many many times over that he has zero regard for laws and signed agreements and ethics and facts and reality...
Unfortunately, Trump has proven many many times over that he has zero regard for laws and signed agreements and ethics and facts and reality...
Ron Vollans
@Albert Johnson
This occurred to me as well. Congress may not have given him the authority to reach separate deals but that won't stop him. He'll present the deals and the Republican congress won't have the nerve to defy him.
This occurred to me as well. Congress may not have given him the authority to reach separate deals but that won't stop him. He'll present the deals and the Republican congress won't have the nerve to defy him.
David Amos
@Ron Vollans YUP
Rob Clayton
Quebecs Chief Negotiator? Do all of the Provinces and Territories have their own Negotiators at the NAFTA negotiations or just Quebec?
David Amos
@Rob Clayton Methinks Harper cemented the deal in 2006 when he claimed that Quebec was a nation within a nation and many mindless Parliamentarians went along with that nonsense N'esy Pas?
Julien Lemieux
@David Amos
Methinks even if you deny the obvious fact, Québec is different from the other provinces and its specificity (culture, language, civil law, etc.) should be officially recognized in the constitution, n'est-il pas?
Methinks even if you deny the obvious fact, Québec is different from the other provinces and its specificity (culture, language, civil law, etc.) should be officially recognized in the constitution, n'est-il pas?
Dean Melanson
it's this kind of liberal arrogance that will kill any deal with the US .....
David Amos
@Dean Melanson Heres hoping that is true
Alex Knox
The incompetent President Twitter desperately needs a "win" and we shouldn't hive it to him.
Besides, he never keeps his agreements.
Besides, he never keeps his agreements.
Elias Snodgrass
@Alex Knox
What agreements hasn't he kept?
What agreements hasn't he kept?
David Amos
@Elias Snodgrass Good point
Kris Douglas
I believe trump is trying to get as many great deals out of Mexico as possible to offset any deals he may not be able to achieve from Canada knowing we doesn't fall easy.
David Amos
@Kris Douglas Dream on
Robert Morris
It appears that Trump has gone from potus to impotent,,,,,,,
David Amos
@Robert Morris Don't bet on it.
Miles .P Kilomesen
okay so don't under estimate Trump's ability to simply scrap the entire UNSIGNED NAFTA deal cause it ain't favoring his country , everyone knows this...
David Amos
@Miles .P Kilomesen "okay so don't under estimate Trump's ability to simply scrap the entire UNSIGNED NAFTA deal"
I am hoping that fact comes true
I am hoping that fact comes true
Elias Snodgrass
What nonsense
Any Country can sign a trade deal with any other country
They don't need our permission
Any Country can sign a trade deal with any other country
They don't need our permission
Jackie Claxton
@Elias Snodgrass
Did you read past the headline? Try reading the article...
Did you read past the headline? Try reading the article...
David Amos
@Jackie Claxton Methinks that Trump does not care about what CBC publishes or what any of us think as we argue within in the comment sections N'esy Pas?
Rob Clayton
So Trudeau will absolutely not negotiate supply management Supply management is largely a Quebec issue
What about the Auto sector? Is he willing to sacrifice 160,000 in that sector for the Quebec dairy industry?
What about the Auto sector? Is he willing to sacrifice 160,000 in that sector for the Quebec dairy industry?
David Amos
@Rob Clayton YUP Methinks everybody knows that the very wealthy Dairy Farmers have very powerful lobbyists N'esy Pas?
Murray Darren
since when has rules and procedures meant anything to Trump. Make no mistake this man is out to destroy Canada anyway he can because of his dislike to his friend in Ottawa
David Amos
@Murray Darren Methinks everybody knows by now the very narcissistic Trump is all about Trump. He quite simply does not care about Trudeau The Younger one way or the other and no doubt the feelings are mutual N'esy Pas?
Mario Doucet
With negotiators like this don't expect a trade deal with the US until the liberals are gone.
David Amos
@Mario Doucet YUP
Mario Doucet
BS, Quebec or Canada can't stop the US from signing a trade deal with anyone.
Jackie Claxton
@Mario Doucet
Where does the article say that Quebec/Canada can stop the US from signing a trade deal?
Where does the article say that Quebec/Canada can stop the US from signing a trade deal?
David Amos
@Mario Doucet True
David Amos
@Jackie Claxton It didn't but methinks Mr Doucet is still correct N'esy Pas?
Denis VanHumbeck
Will be nice to see Couillard voted out this fall.
David Amos
@Denis VanHumbeck YUP
Trump can't reach NAFTA deal without Canada: Quebec chief negotiator
'No worry whatsoever' Raymond Bachand says, as U.S.-Mexico talks resume this week
The Trump administration doesn't have the legal authority to sideswipe Canada and sign a bilateral trade deal with Mexico, Quebec's chief NAFTA negotiator said Monday.
Raymond Bachand, an ex-Quebec finance minister, said "there is no worry whatsoever" the current one-on-one talks between the United States and Mexico will end in a trade deal signed without Canada.
Bilateral NAFTA negotiations between the two countries have been building momentum in recent weeks, while Canada has yet to return to the table this summer.
The president has also said he would be interested in signing separate deals with both countries.
Even if Trump really wanted that, Bachand said, he couldn't get it.
"If the U.S. wanted a bilateral deal — and they don't, they've repeated often they want a trilateral deal — they don't have legal authority.
"They have the authority from Congress to negotiate a trilateral NAFTA deal in a fast-track way — meaning Congress votes yes or no on the final deal once it's been reached. They don't have that (fast-track) authority for a bilateral deal."
Bachand made the comments in Stowe, Vt., during the two-day annual conference between governors of New England states and the premiers of Quebec and the eastern Canadian provinces.
Pleased to welcome my fellow New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers to Vermont for the #NEGECP Conference. Looking forward to a productive day discussing shared efforts to strengthen our economies, create jobs, protect the vulnerable and our environment, and more.
Senate, governors will ensure NAFTA continues
Not a single U.S. governor or senator has asked to pull their country out of NAFTA, Bachand said, which is Canada's true trump card in the negotiations, he added.
"So all the so-called modernization attempts the president wants with NAFTA, there is a kind of red line," Bachand said. "NAFTA will continue because the power in the U.S. Senate is very strong in commercial decisions, and governors also have a big influence."
On Sunday, Vermont Gov. Phil Scott and Quebec Premier Philippe Couillard signed a joint declaration on economic co-operation, despite the trade tensions between the two countries.
Today, I signed a Joint Declaration with Quebec Premier Philippe Couillard, demonstrating our commitment to strengthening the Vermont-Quebec bond, and our cooperative efforts to foster economic growth. http://governor.vermont.gov/press-release/vermont-and-québec-strengthen-long-standing-cooperation-accelerate-economic-growth …
Scott said the agreement "acknowledges our intertwined economies and solidifies our commitment to building cross-border trade."
Quebec's premier said he had breakfast with the eastern premiers and New England governors Monday and they "almost exclusively" talked about NAFTA.
"The border states understand well the level of integration of our economies," he said. "It's the rest of the country and the White House we have to work on."
Just so everybody knows all the Yankee governors got the same documents first so I must as the obvious question. Just exactly how dumb are dudes such as Phil Scott and Philippe Couillard?