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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/small-party-status-continues-1.5777470
Higgs says party status will continue for Greens and People's Alliance
Neither party meets legislative threshold, but both were granted status two years ago in minority legislature
· CBC News· Posted: Oct 26, 2020 5:29 PM AT
Two years ago, Premier Blaine Higgs said refusing to give the small parties official status would be a 'slap in the face' for those who voted for the Greens or People's Alliance. (CBC)
The Green Party and the People's Alliance will get to keep their spots in the political spotlight at the New Brunswick Legislature.
Premier Blaine Higgs said MLAs from his party, which won a majority in last month's election, will extend an exemption to a rule that would have limited the role of the two smaller parties.
Under the legislature's standing rules, a party must win five seats or 20 per cent of the vote to be recognized as an official party.
Both the Greens and the Alliance fell short of both thresholds last month.
Two years ago, when no party had a majority, MLAs supported making an exception for the two upstart parties.
Higgs said to maintain the spirit of co-operation achieved on COVID-19, his party will support doing it again.
Green Leader David Coon watches as the results roll in on election night. The Green Party didn't reach the threshold for automatic party status, which is at least five seats or 20 per cent of the popular vote. (Mike Heenan/CBC News)
"I had said I would carry on with the all-party COVID-19 cabinet committee and we have," Higgs said in a statement by email.
"I am cognizant of the role each party has played in managing the pandemic thus far and I value their contribution.
"I think now it is more important than ever to work together to map out New Brunswick's post-COVID future. With that in mind, our party will recommend we continue recognizing the third parties with official party status."
The decision is officially up to the legislative administration committee, but given it has a PC majority, Higgs's recommendation makes the decision a foregone conclusion.
People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin at his campaign headquarters on election night. Both the Alliance and Greens were granted party status in the minority legislature two years ago. (CBC )
A separate decision by the same committee will determine how much funding each party gets for offices and support staff.
Green Leader David Coon and former PC leader Dennis Cochrane both said last week that rather than continuing to make exceptions to it, MLAs should vote to lower the standing rule requiring five seats for party status.
Methinks the fat lady ain't sung yet N'esy Pas?
Methinks I made Higgy nervous last weekend about the upcoming vote on the Throne Speech Hence he is sweet talking and playing nice with the little leaders now N'esy Pas?
If perchance all 5 bailed on the PC Party Andrea Anderson-Mason, Jeff Carr. Jake Stewart Sherry Wilson and Ross Wetmore that would be truly special indeed. They could create a "Party" all by themselves by the rules has status Either way Higgy's mandate would be in serious jeopardy before the vote on the Throne Speech. I would lay odds all the political pundits of all stripes understand my reasoning last week Hence Higgy decided to play nice this week N'esy Pas?
Higgs is a man of principal and has therefore granted them party status.....plus he may need one or more of their votes in the future......
Furthermore you claim to have studied blogs of mine Well you must have missed the one I posted Jan 22, 2018 in which I posted an email advising Higgy et al. However you cannot deny that Premier Gallant's computer acknowledged an email with the subject line that stated "RE: Mr Higgs and Dominic Cardy are trying to learn how to herd cats and even the clowns are laughing at the nonsense" N'esy Pas?
Methinks that was too too funny indeed N'esy Pas?
If perchance all 5 bailed on the PC Party Andrea Anderson-Mason, Jeff Carr. Jake Stewart Sherry Wilson and Ross Wetmore that would be truly special indeed. They could create a "Party" all by themselves by the rules has status Either way Higgy's mandate would be in serious jeopardy before the vote on the Throne Speech. I would lay odds all the political pundits of all stripes understand my reasoning last week Hence Higgy decided to play nice this week N'esy Pas?
If perchance all 5 bailed on the PC Party that would be truly special indeed. They could create a "Party" all by themselves by the rules has status. Either way Higgy's mandate would be in serious jeopardy before the vote on the Throne Speech. I would lay odds all the political pundits of all stripes understood my posts last week Hence Higgy decided to play nice with the little leaders this week N'esy Pas?
I know how the Greens vote (or don't vote) seem to be something that weighs heavy on you but how about a little of your wisdom on the actual article...
Your area of expertise...you could advise him on nothingness.
No wonder you have no friends. The basement dweller dishing out advice and knowledge of the world.
Like you do with Higgs, Charlie?
yes our kind and benevolent leader... all kneel.
NB has nothing to teach to Ottawa...we should focus on getting out of the Dark Ages before we try and tell others what to do and how to act!
Kettle calling the pot black.
Rob Sense
Not sure...you mean where you hang out?
Lou Bell
Well I guess at least we didn't msee the name Bombardier or SNC or Pomerleau so at least there's a minimal chance this is on the up and up . Slight , but there is a chance !
Gerald Celente
Reply to @Lou Bell: Wow, look at you making anti government slurs. Now that takes some getting used to.
There is more than enough muck to go around in NB. Just because PCs got a majority we all have a brief reprieve from the benevolent master. It will soon change.
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Pancho needs your prayers it's true. Save a few for Lefty too. He only did what he had to do and now he's growin' old. All the Federales say 'We could have had him any day" They only let him go so long out of kindness, I suppose
I disagree may I suggest that you find what I said about Vestcor on Rogers TV when Higgy and I ran in the 2018 provincial election after Cardy teased me about their fondness for butter tarts and silly cats for months.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/premier-party-status-nb-1.5773730
For Blaine Higgs, whether to grant status to small parties may be a political calculation
When Higgs had a minority government, granting party status made sense, now it may not
· CBC News· Posted: Oct 23, 2020 8:00 AM AT
Two years ago, Blaine Higgs spoke repeatedly about how marginalizing the Greens and the Alliance would be a slap in the face to voters who opted against the two traditional mainstream parties. Now, the premier is non-committal. (CBC)
For New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs and his Progressive Conservative government, last month's majority election victory means more than just full control of the legislative agenda.
It also gives them an opportunity to hamstring the two smaller parties in the legislature, the Greens and the People's Alliance.
With a majority, the PCs now control the committees that decide whether those parties get a major role in legislative business and how much funding they receive to hire support staff.
"The premier's choice appears like a pretty straightforward political calculation," said Erin Crandall, a political scientist at Acadia University in Wolfville, N.S.
"During the minority government, he needed the support of these third parties to govern, hence was incentivized to grant official party status.
"With a majority government, he no longer requires the support of these third parties and has a very different incentive, to make it more difficult for them to grow and build support moving towards the next election."
Political calculations
Of course, Higgs prides himself on his reputation for not making straightforward political calculations.
Just two years ago, he spoke repeatedly about how marginalizing the Greens and the Alliance would be a slap in the face to voters who opted against the two traditional mainstream parties.
Green Party Leader David Coon, left, and People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin, right, benefited from Higgs's decision to grant their parties status during a minority government. He may not see a need to do so during a majority regime. (James West/Canadian Press)
Now the premier is non-committal.
"We will hold discussions with the other parties over the next week or two in relation to the Green and PANB parties' status," Higgs said in a written statement.
The legislature is scheduled to start a new session with a speech from the throne on Nov. 17.
Assembly's rules and exceptions
Technically, the Greens and the Alliance had no right to any formal status in the legislature back in 2018.
The assembly's rules say a party must win five seats, or 20 per cent of the vote in an election, to be "recognized" as an official party.
That status gives the party's MLAs the right to make statements every day and to respond to statements from ministers.
But several times in the last three decades, different governments and legislatures have made exceptions to that rule.
It happened for NDP leader Elizabeth Weir after she was first elected in 1991. It was repeated for Green Leader David Coon in 2014 and most recently for the two small parties in 2018.
Former Progressive Conservative leader Dennis Cochrane, who won three seats in 1991 but gained official party status by winning more than 20 per cent of the popular vote, predicts Higgs will extend the exception for the two small parties. (Shane Magee/CBC)
By law, the leader of a registered party elected to the legislature, such as Weir and Coon, gets a small office budget, even if they're a caucus of one. Changing that rule would require legislation.
But how frequently they get to speak hinges on a simple motion of the legislature to suspend the five-MLA rule.
"The precedent's been in place now for a while and I don't see why he'd make any change to that," Coon said of Higgs's looming decision.
Former Progressive Conservative leader Dennis Cochrane, who won three seats in 1991 but gained official party status by winning more than 20 per cent of the popular vote, predicts Higgs will extend the exception for the two small parties.
But rather than continue making exceptions, he said the government should simply change the standing rule to lower the five-MLA threshold.
"You can't keep making exceptions," Cochrane said.
Looking forward
Beyond the automatic budget for a registered party leader, the all-party legislative administration committee determines exactly how the funding for all 49 MLAs is carved up, depending on their numbers and their status.
In 2019, the committee agreed to a per-MLA formula for funding levels. Officials at the legislature refused to release it publicly on Thursday.
Coon said he expects Higgs will support the status quo on funding and on party status, and isn't concerned about the premier's hesitation to commit to it so far.
"I'm sure if he was thinking of doing something different, he'd have told me," Coon said.
The day he was sworn in as premier, Higgs promised all MLAs they'd have a bigger role in decision-making.
"You will have an unprecedented say in shaping the future of this province," he told them. "You will have real power that will be shared and will not simply be held by members of cabinet."
'If he doesn't follow through on what he did in the minority government and removes that party status now, it's going to speak a lot to his character,' Austin says. (CBC News)
Alliance Leader Kris Austin said it would be hypocritical for Higgs to now act differently.
"If he doesn't follow through on what he did in the minority government and removes that party status now, it's going to speak a lot to his character," he said.
Without those resources, Austin said, "We lose funding, we lose the ability to research, we lose the ability to point out issues that government refuses to acknowledge or the Official Opposition has overlooked or doesn't want to acknowledge themselves."
Coon agrees: "We want to fully participate in the work of the legislature and that means ensuring that our MLAs have the opportunities to speak on issues that are important to their constituents or fall within their responsibilities as critics."
Little say anyway
The Official Opposition Liberals haven't decided yet whether to support or oppose continued recognition of the two smaller parties. In 2014, newly-elected Premier Brian Gallant ensured Coon was given that status.
"So far we haven't considered the issue," said interim Liberal Leader Roger Melanson.
But unlike 2018, when MLAs from the three opposition parties outnumbered the government, the Liberals — like the Alliance and the Greens — have little say in the matter.
The Official Opposition Liberals haven't decided yet whether to support or oppose continued recognition of the two smaller parties, said interim Liberal Leader Roger Melanson. (CBC)
With a majority in the legislature, the PCs also have a majority on the committees that will make the decisions.
"Even though the premier is not on those committees necessarily, he will be making the decisions about what those Progressive Conservative members on those committees are going to do," Crandall said.
"The work of those committees that have a majority of government members on them can more or less be a foregone conclusion."
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"If he doesn't follow through on what he did in the minority government and removes that party status now, it's going to speak a lot to his character,' Austin says."
Methinks Higgy et al are well aware that I spoke of health care with that character on live TV not too long ago and his reaction spoke volumes of his N'esy Pas?
Yea Right
Nay not I
"Former Progressive Conservative leader Dennis Cochrane, who won three seats in 1991 but gained official party status by winning more than 20 per cent of the popular vote, predicts Higgs will extend the exception for the two small parties"
Methinks Higgy et al are well aware that after dealing with the PANBl Leader and his many cohorts for 10 years I have every right to say that Austin should speak to his own character first N'esy Pas?
But regardless, they will ensure they get lots of coverage.
New Brunswickers get smarter as time goes on
There is a need for this rule Sarah... and its because of right wing parties like the PA that are only there for a few jobs, not for the people of NB... Yes they saved one license plate and cleaned a few ditches but at 80 k per year... come on
no ill effects other than costs - it costs about an additional 400K to recognize the two smaller parties because alone with that recognition comes money, an extra pay boost for both leaders, office space, staff salaries and so on... they would not be entitle to that money if they didn't have that recognition. I'm all for them having a bigger role in the house business but not the extra money.
Elizabeth Wier was the only NDP MLA for about 15 years, and the NDP was officially recognized. When only their leader was MLA, the Green Party was recognized officially. And of course, during the last session, both the Green Party and the People's Alliance were officially recognized.
In regards to covid 'cases'...the hype about 'cases' is what's being used to shut down economies all over the place.
How many false positives have there been?
How many 'cases' are asymptomatic?
What's the comorbidity rate?
In regards to how hospitals are dealing with this virus scare. Let's look, seriously, at how they are dealing with this virus scare...specifically, within the hospitals.
How many people have missed treatments because of the gov't reaction to this virus scare?
There's lot's of reason to question gov't on this file, imo.
In general, as a Canadian citizen, don't you have a constitutional right to a health card?
But, you know, India has very good healthcare that's affordable. They do treatment on the same day as diagnosis. No wait time. Quality is also same/better than ours. Just saying.
Might be better to go get looked after than to fight with this crazy, insulated bureaucracy, that we're all stuck with.
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...like an expanding balloon...an expanding balloon that taxes everyone exorbitantly and is in everyone's business.
One and the same, imo.
It would be interesting to hear more stories from NBers who have either been steam rolled by the monopoly, or had a steam roll attempt against them. Would make for an interesting book...