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36 senators sign letter in support of Clinic 554

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36 senators sign letter in support of Clinic 554

Clinic closure would 'impair access to hard won Charter-protected rights,' letter states

 

CBC News· Posted: Sep 30, 2020 4:01 PM AT 

 

Clinic 554, serves about 3,000 patients as a family practice, and every service it provides — other than abortion — is covered by medicare, Dr. Adrian Edgar, who runs the clinic, has said. (Mike Heenan/CBC)
 

Thirty-six senators have signed a letter in support of Clinic 554 in Fredericton, the only location in New Brunswick that offers surgical abortions outside of hospitals.

The clinic, which also serves as a family practice and a resource centre for LGBTQ2 patients across the province, is expected to close Wednesday due to a lack of government funding.

"The closing of Clinic 554 would impair access to hard won Charter-protected rights," the letter released Tuesday night states.

In 1988, the Supreme Court of Canada granted women the right to choose to have an abortion, without fear of prosecution.

"Yet, access to the reproductive rights conferred to women years ago by the highest court in the Land are still being restricted by provincial regulations and policies," the senators' statement said.

Medicare currently covers only abortions performed at three hospitals in the province, two in Moncton and one in Bathurst.

"While we appreciate that the provision of services per se … is a provincial jurisdiction, the truth is that … the services offered by the clinic are different in nature because they have been prescribed constitutionally by the Supreme Court," said Sen. Judith Keating, one of the five New Brunswick senators who signed the letter.

"So they're not on the same level as other services, and so the obligation of the province is to ensure that proper access is provided."

Instead, the province has "consistently restricted the right to access by imposing some regulatory controls," said Keating, who has legal and constitutional expertise, having served more than 30 years in a variety of roles with the provincial government before her appointment to the Senate in January.


Sen. Judith Keating, who was among the five New Brunswick senators to sign the letter, was the first woman to serve as deputy minister of Justice and deputy attorney general of New Brunswick. She also served as chief legislative counsel and chief legal advisor to the premier during her more than 30 years with the provincial government. (Senate of Canada)

She was the first woman to serve as deputy minister of Justice and deputy attorney general of New Brunswick. She also served as chief legislative counsel and chief legal advisor to the premier.

Premier Blaine Higgs was unavailable for an interview Wednesday, said spokesperson Nicolle Carlin.

"He doesn't have anything more to say in response than what was said [Monday]," she said in an email.

On Monday, Higgs told reporters he's concerned that funding abortions in private clinics would set a precedent.

"So if we're going to suggest … that it's more cost-effective to offer services in a private clinic, then where does that stop? Does that mean that we should continue to offer more and more services in private clinics and less and less services in public institutions?"

Higgs said it's "a slippery slope. And if you do it for one service, where does it stop?"

Keating disagrees.

"It's not a slippery slope, in my view, because the services and the access to services that we're talking about stem from rights, from granted rights," she said.

"And so it is up to the province, and it's the responsibility of the province to pay for the service when it's required. And that's not what's happened. And that's not what has happened for the last 30 years."

BREAKING: 32 Senators sign a letter of solidarity with New Brunswickers fighting for their right to access abortion services. "The closing of Clinic 554 would impair access to hard won Charter-protected rights."#NB
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The other New Brunswick senators who signed the letter of support include: René Cormier, Nancy Hartling, Sandra M. Lovelace Nicholas and Pierrette Ringuette.

"Senators should have their voices heard in situations where the curtailment of the exercise of the rights of citizens by any Canadian jurisdiction leads to a continual denial of those rights," the letter states.

"In a Constitutional Democracy such as ours, the substance and intent of Supreme Court decisions must be respected and applied."

The New Brunswick senators who did not sign are: Percy Mockler, Rose-May Poirier, David Richards and Carolyn Stewart Olsen.

Closing date unclear

It's unclear if Clinic 554 is closing Wednesday, as scheduled.

Dr. Adrian Edgar, who runs the clinic, could not immediately be reached for comment.

The clinic's administrator Valerie Edelman could not immediately be reached for comment either.

Edgar has applied to provide temporary visits for a small group of Clinic 554's "most vulnerable family practice patients, including those who require specialized care like abortion access, over the coming weeks to months," according to a post on the clinic's Facebook page on Sept. 23.

"If his application is approved, we will reach out to you," it states.

Last Friday, a group protesting the imminent closure of Clinic 554 had their tents removed from the grounds of the New Brunswick Legislature.

Speaker Daniel Guitard told CBC News on the weekend that he made the decision with the staff and advisory team after being told it was a longstanding practice not to permit tents on the property for security reasons.

 

 
 
 
78 Comments 
 
 
 
 
David Amos 
Methinks Higgy et al must recall that I dealt with the questionable lawyer Sen. Judith Keating when she worked for the Attorney General of NB Anyone can Google our names N''esy pas? 
 
 
 
John Grail:
A group of entitled, overpaid civil servants trying to tell others what to do..
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @John Grail: so. Somewhat like you? Get over your granola eating self 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @John Grail: Methinks Higgy's evil little fanboy is on a roll again tonight I bet its with the knowledge and assent of his buddies in the RCMP N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dan Short
I have a child that needs a "Regular" procedure That the closest place to get it is in Montreal. I demand it be funded at a private clinic and be available on the current Corner I live on. If I move, one should then be where I now live.

I am being sarcastic of course. I understand logistics and population factors in providing health services.

We have many people in this province that need to travel for an hour just to see a family doctor. So travelling for surgeries is not unrealistic
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Short: You are not funny
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: its a shame you bred
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Caligula appointed his horse as a Roman Senator.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Keating looks like one.
 
 
Scott Bobott
Reply to @Jos Allaire: An extra from TWD.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Jos Allaire: C'est Vrai Maggie
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Heather Lunergan
"In New Brunswick, abortions are only offered in three locations because previous provincial governments have not repealed a regulation, known as Regulation 84-20, banning the funding of abortions outside of hospitals.

New Brunswick is the only province in Canada that does not fund abortions outside of hospitals, while Clinic 554 is the only location that offers the medical procedure outside of a hospital in the province."

Why has Regulation 84-20 (from the early 1980s) not been repealed? It directly defies Health Care guidelines, by the way.

Source: https://globalnews.ca/news/7354039/waitlist-doctor-clinic-554/« less
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Heather Lunergan: Methinks you are flogging a dead horse N'esy Pas?

 
Scott Bobott
Reply to @David Amos: Are you saying you want her to stop talking about this?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Scott Bobott: I don't care However unlike the fake left I do believe in free speech. Hence the lady has my blessings to go on and on boring people in a domain financed by my tax dollars that is not used to provide me with the health care she laments about and that I am entitled to as well

I told you this out of the gate Correct?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Scott Bobott: Enjoy a little Deja Vu form a comment section on this topic that closed earlier today

Theo Trapper
Allow voices you don't agree with to speak. It doesn't matter what side of any argument is presented, there is absolutely nothing that is so sacred of a topic to ban speech.

David Amos
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Reply to @Theo Trapper: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Reply to @David Amos: I think it is just easier for me to say "Correct, sir" even though I have no idea what "it" or "gate" you are referencing, is it not so? 
 
 
Scott Bobott
Reply to @David Amos: I think it is just easier for me to say "Correct, sir" even though I have no idea what "it" or "gate" you are referencing, is it not so? 
 
 
Scott Bobott 
Reply to @Heather Lunergan: I would appreciate any links you could provide regarding the history of 554... when it opened, who established the clinic, did they know when they opened that abortion services would not be corvered, etc. I am having trouble finding any of that information.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Scott Bobott: YOUR words not mine

"Reply to @David Amos: I think nobody dares because nobody cares about your personal failings, is that not so."
 
 
Scott Bobott
Reply to @David Amos: I think, yeah I said that. I am sorry. That was not nice of me to say. I apologize to myself for breaking my rule of not engaging with your type, is that not so?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Scott Bobott: What is my TYPE?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Scott Bobott: More importantly are you using your true name as per the rules of this domain?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Joseph Godin
A letter signed by 36 unelected people, representing no one.
 
 
Matt Steele
Reply to @Joseph Godin: ....Senators just represent themselves , and how much money they can milk out of the Canadian taxpayer for their own benefit . Just a group of political appointments who are to useless to get a real job .
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Joseph Godin: BINGO
 
 
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: you should've been 554 
 
 
Dan Lee
Reply to @Ray Oliver:
thats not very nice.......
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Steve Morningstar
I'll plead ignorance.. but instead of fighting to fund a private clinic, wouldn't it make more sense to just have the procedure available at the hospital. This also allows for much better care in the rare event that something goes wrong. I'm assuming if there is an adverse event at the clinic they call the ambulance to move the individual to the hospital anyway.
 
 
JOhn D Bond:
Reply to @Steve Morningstar: Well said and it makes perfect sense.
 
 
Tristin Time
Reply to @Steve Morningstar: Exactly! The biggest reason why people want a private clinic is to avoid the process of 2 medical physicians agreeing the procedure should be done. Most are denied then they go to a private "Walk-in" no questions asked clinic. As long as my tax dollars are not being used and it's a patient non reburseably trans-action, let them have it.
 
 
Beverley Kernan
Reply to @Tristin Time:
Requiring 2 medical physicians to agree to the procedure was rescinded in 2015 by the Gallant government.
 
 
Heather Lunergan
Reply to @Steve Morningstar: Rembember that Clinic 554 has 3K clients ... providing abortions is "not" the focus of the clinic. And yes, hospitals are a logical place for a surgical procedure to be done. If someone could explain that to the Premier, it would be amazingly helpful for everyone.
 
 
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @Steve Morningstar: how about educating people on the consequences of having unprotected sex?
 
 
Heather Lunergan
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: I agree, people should understand that. But, what about the 12 year old who was raped by a relative or the 16 year old whose pimp will be very upset if she isn't available? I wish I was being facetious...
 
 
Scott Bobott
Reply to @Heather Lunergan: "Rembember that Clinic 554 has 3K clients ... providing abortions is "not" the focus of the clinic. " YES! That not-so-minor detail seems to be lost on many people who are chiming in about this.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Scott Bobott: I don't care
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Furthermore why should I?

Nobody dares to deny the fact that Higgy et al have denied me the right to free health care for years and I have the emergency room bills and doctor fees to prove it.
 
 
Scott Bobott
Reply to @David Amos: I think nobody dares because nobody cares about your personal failings, is that not so.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Scott Bobott: You just proved my point in spades  
 
 
 
 
 

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