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Methinks Higgy et al know why I just chuckled as CBC kept deleting my comments as I picked up the phone etc N'esy Pas?
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Residents livid with glyphosate say they'll chase spray helicopters out of their communities
Foes of controversial herbicide attempted to intercept spray helicopters Tuesday morning
· CBC News· Posted: Sep 16, 2020 6:58 PM AT
Residents near Brockway says they tried to confront crews piloting helicopters like this one that were destined for glyphosate spraying over Crown land Tuesday morning. (James Steidle/CBC)
On Monday night, Peter Ganong noticed a pair of helicopters had landed just across the road from his house in Brockway, about 56 kilometres north of Saint Andrews.
Ganong lives by the Brockway airport. The patch of pavement on Route 3 is riddled with strawberry plants and may not seem deserving of "airport" as a designation, since it's only used occasionally.
But Ganong said the arrival of those helicopters was no less concerning than if military jets had landed. He ducked into the nearby woods and started to photograph workers preparing to spray the herbicide glyphosate the next morning.
"I've strongly considered moving out of New Brunswick because of this," Ganong said.
Peter Ganong says he's not an activist but may change that after watching the forest ecosystem around his home in Brockway degrade for decades. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
He sent the pictures he took to friends and neighbours, who shared them on social media. The next morning about a dozen people showed up at the Brockway airport to confront the pilots and workers.
But the clash Ganong and his neighbours were expecting never materialized. All they heard was the sound of the helicopters leaving just before the group arrived.
That left a runway of people seething. And they're vowing to run any more spray operators out of their community.
"Year after year, there's less fish, there's less birds, there's less bugs, there's less bees," said Ganong. "It's just not the forest it used to be."
"I just see it gradually disappearing. It's screwing up the ecosystem."
Ganong says he photographed helicopters on Monday night carrying staff preparing to spray herbicide near his home in Brockway. (Submitted Peter Ganong)Ganong has lived in Brockway for two decades, and had a family hunting camp for years before that.
He doesn't consider himself an activist, but when surrounded by like-minded strangers Tuesday morning, he admitted that might be changing.
"It's the first time I've met most all these people," said Ganong
Community backlash
Among those outraged by the spray operation are people from different backgrounds and nearby communities.
"This is not right, it's not fair," said Cynthia Howland, a grandmother from the Passamaquoddy First Nation. "Politics aside, end of the day, it's wrong. It's absolutely wrong."
Cynthia Howland of Passamaquoddy First Nation says she's fed up with glyphosate being sprayed on her ancestral homeland. (Shane Fowler/CBC News)
She became tearful as she thought of how the spraying had disrupted her hopes for this year.
"This was going to be the first year that I harvested traditionally. This was going to be the first year that I was going to go out and gather my own food. I will not do that now; I will not feed that to my grandchildren."
Kim Reeder, ran for the Green Party in the provincial Monday and joined spray opponents the next morning at the Brockway airport. (Shane Fowler/CBC News)The land being sprayed is unceded territory, she said.
"This is the territory that my ancestors walked on. This very dirt is my ancestors."
Also among the protesters were two candidates from separate political parties, who ran unsuccessfully in Monday's provincial election.
"We've had enough of the spraying," said John Gardner, who ran for the Liberals in Saint Croix before being dropped from the party slate. "So we came out here this morning to not just support the people in this area, but people around the province."
Kimberly Reeder, who ran for the Green Party, said there are better ways to manage forests.
"We can do that with [forest] thinners, which would create way more jobs than spraying ever has."
Several in the group questioned the timing of the spraying, taking place the morning after the Progressive Conservatives won a majority government. They were the only major party that didn't promise to ban the spraying of glyphosate.
Those who found themselves at the Brockway airport Tuesday morning were stressed about going another four years without a ban being considered.
Some believe the election may have served as a cover for the spray operation near their home, but those working with the forestry industry say that's not how the process works.
Industry response
It takes months to apply for and approve a section of Crown land for spraying.
"It's mind-boggling that they would be outraged that this treatment was happening when it's been advertised for months and [went] through all the regulatory requirements," said Mike Legere of Forest NB, an organization that represents some of the forestry companies that commission the spraying by Forest Protection Ltd.
"But what concerns me more is how ridiculous this interpretation of the timing of the spray. To suggest that it's some sort of conspiracy plot to try and match our desire to manage forest land with some political platform
"It's absolutely ridiculous."
Who is spraying
Signs in the area did state that the area was scheduled to be sprayed Tuesday with glyphosate by FPL, or Forest Protection Ltd., for AV Nackawic.
Forest Protection owned in a partnership with the province and several forestry companies. Directors include Mike Holland, New Brunswick's minister of Natural Resources, Tom MacFarlane, the deputy environment minister, Jason Limongelli, vice-president of J.D Irving Ltd., Kevin Topolnski of Acadian Timber Corp, Kevin Larlee, vice-president fibre supply and government relations with AV Group, Andy Barrieau with the Fornebu Lumber Co., Terry Noble of Twin Rivers Paper Co., Mike Legere of the New Brunswick Forest Products Association, and several Natural Resources Department staff.
Escalating encounters
Legere said anyone has the right to peacefully protest spraying, but he cautioned against letting things escalate.
The glyphosate opponents who were unable to confront workers on Tuesday said they're preparing themselves for next time.
"It's time to get prepared," said Reeder. "So once we're done today, well, one of the things we decided to do now is have go bags ready."
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Publish them and we shall see. If not, sod off, the glypĥosate way
Denise Leblanc Content disabled Reply to @David Amos:
And the result... You had contacts. WOW! You are the first person ever to have contact with another person ever.
Rick Randal I haven't seen a dog fight since Sky-Charlies came at us back in 68'
Denise Leblanc I wonder where he is going to move to in order to avoid glyphosate.
I don't know where he was but I don't think it was anywhere near NB.
The question is where does he go? No a drivelling unresponse.
Is anyone OK. Is David OK, His Shakespearean musings are a indication of mental illness.
Jos Allaire I feel for the good folks of Saint Croix, a swing riding, who unfortunately voted against their interest this time. Next time, Higgs, hope they remember. A combination of the Green and Liberal vote would have obliterated the CORservatives. It's high time for these two parties to get together.
Yea righty right.
Bill Hamilton I agree that the Province does nor generate enough revenue from the Crown and corporate freehold lands. I also think we are too focused on conifer monocultures in our forest management strategy. But the concern over the current level of glyphosate use in forestry is misguided. Too many people with too much time on their hands. Better to focus on lawn care phenoxy herbicide use in residential areas, or agricultural sprays on our food.
There I've pisssed-off everyone in one single post!?
Terry Tibbs And so it begins, 4 more years of nothing government, be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
well he and fleming did try to close 6 hospitals and curtail rural emergency room hours of operation to daylight hours. Other than that ya, they did basically nothing.
I don't claim to be the brightest light, but I do know: doing the very same thing, over, and over, will not give you a different result.
Kim Reeder I must say that in the above article the only quotes with extreme or radical language are those of Mike Leger. Those who were on the tarmack were there gathering and discussing issues important to all of New Brunswick, talking about families, fishing, wildlife - New Brunswick values. It is Leger’s who uses the words, ‘mind-boggling,’ ‘ridiculous’ and ‘confront’ and then warns US not to let things escalate. It’s laughable. The large corporations, along with the Conservative party have a choice, we can talk in the boardroom, or I can grab my go-bag and meet them to talk out in the woods. I know my preference - I WANT to be having conversations outside, in common spaces, with common goals...but we should likely check the spray schedule before we go - don’t want to get wet out there!
David Amos Reply to @Kim Reeder: Methinks your politcal party leader have should checked my work as I argued Bayer Corp's lawyer and the NB AG among many others way back in 2004 N'esy Pas?
Ben Haroldson Year after year, there's less fish, there's less birds, there's less bugs, there's less bees," said Ganong. "It's just not the forest it used to be." Add to that " and more cancer ".
they're a lot smarter than u...but forced to eat that crap
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- itShSellpputaeomsobnterstds e15 oart 6mS:4rimui2o fcAedhMSpraying the whole Trout Brook road today starting this morning! Two choppers and support crew spent last night at the Brockway airport, signs all along The Trot Brook road, makes me sick!! Should converge on the area. Shame a lot of feed, moose in area, gone soon, forever.31 Comments20 Shares
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Make me sick thinking about it !!!!!!!!Working?I am for bit yepThat whole area is full of feed and moose!!! Bye bye.if i didnt have too work i would be their for sureThis is fuckedGood one!!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-election-glyphosate-1.5702655
Anti-spray group gives 4 political parties failing grades on glyphosate
Stop Spraying New Brunswick group hands out 4th annual report card
· CBC News· Posted: Aug 27, 2020 7:37 PM AT
Caroline Lubbe-D'Arcy, chair of Stop Spraying New Brunswick, says the group is asking political candidates to sign a pledge to work toward a ban on spraying glyphosate. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)
The group Stop Spraying New Brunswick handed out failing grades Thursday to the four parties that had seats in the legislature, suggesting even those opposed to spraying glyphosate and other herbicides on Crown land were not dogged enough.
The group handed out its fourth annual report card in Petitcodiac.
The grades are based on the parties' performance in the house before it was dissolved earlier this month for the Sept. 14 election.
The Progressive Conservative, Liberal and Green parties, and the People's Alliance all got an "F" for on the issue of banning herbicides. The New Democratic Party had no seats in the house.
The group's marks for efforts to change regulations or table a motion or bill varied.
The Green Party earned a B-plus, while the Liberals received a D-minus
"We have seen steadily year after year that there is much more legislative motion going on," said Donald Bowser, vice-chair of the anti-spray group. So the parties know this, they know that the public supports it.
"They try to do enough to appease the public, but yet we still don't have a ban on glyphosate."
The group said the Green Party did table a motion to ban glyphosate on Oct. 24, 2018, but it didn't reach the debate stage.
The Green Party also tabled a bill in November 2019 that dealt with a ban on spraying, along with other forestry issues, but the party did not pursue it further.
The group said the Liberal Party tabled a motion in November 2019 to study glyphosate, which was debated and voted on in December 2019.
During that process, the Green Party proposed an amendment to ban spraying on Crown land, but it was defeated after only getting votes from the Greens and the People's Alliance.
The group said the Progressive Conservative government announced a 30 percent reduction of spraying in 2019, but hasn't provided details to confirm this has happened.
Caroline Lubbe-D'Arcy, chair of Stop Spraying New Brunswick, said she would like to see the political parties follow through.
Lubbe-D'Arcy said 35,000 New Brunswickers have signed a petition calling for a stop to spraying in the province.
The group is asking political candidates to sign a pledge showing where they stand on the issue.