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More than 20 chainsaws stolen from Hanwell business while Dragons like pitch about small-town New Brunswick

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Calling the number and reporting David Amos He was in the area at the time
 
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Say Hey to your buddies in the RCMP for me
 
 
 
 
 
 

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More than 20 chainsaws stolen from Hanwell business

RCMP investigate late-night break-in on Oct. 19

CBC News· Posted: Nov 14, 2020 5:06 PM AT


RCMP are looking for information after more than 20 chainsaws were stolen from a business in Hanwell, N.B., in October. (Shutterstock / Denis Tabler)

RCMP are investigating after more than 20 chainsaws were stolen from a Hanwell, N.B., business.

The theft occurred following a break-in at a business on Route 640 during the late-night hours of Oct. 19 and early morning the following day.

An individual stole an orange Arbortec gear bag, according to a news release. The chainsaws are Husqvarna 550XP, Husqvarna 372XP and Stihl MS 880.

The RCMP say video surveillance shows a person of interest wearing a jacket and ball cap.

Keswick RCMP asks anyone with information to call 506-575-6200. Anonymous tips can be provided through Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.

 

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David Stairs
who the heck is overseeing these investigations...what a useless news story...these items will be long gone...someone needs to launch an investigation into the Mounties mishandling of these situations....and there follow-up practices...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Stairs: Methinks Cpl Mark Blakely of Major Crimes is doubt is overseeing this N'esy Pas?
 









Terry Tibbs
The reporting of a theft, of small portable items, 5 days short of a month later has a very limited value to anybody.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you have developed quite a diverse fan club of sheople who revel with your every word one way or the other. There is no need for me to add my two bits to the circus concerned about a wicked little virus that can go through the masks like mosquito through a chain link fence and hop in any vehicle and cruise around the province N'esy Pas?









 
Kevin Archibald 
Check in the area anyone with an unusually large pile of firewood that needs cut and split.

Odd that people steal something like this because it takes manual labor to operate, and most thieves aren't real ambitious.....hahaha 


David Amos
Reply to @Kevin Archibald: What is so funny?

How many people do you know would buy a cheap brand new chainsaw??

How would you like to be the people who owned the shop that was ripped off???
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Kevin Archibald: More importantly scroll down and ask yourself how you would feel about being falsely accused as being the thief of the chainsaws?
 










Ben Haroldson
Timely reporting of that crime. We'll get em for sure. Probably an inside job.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: "Probably an inside job." - How so?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: i doubt it on both counts
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Calling the number and reporting David Amos. He was in the area at the time.
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
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Reply to @David Amos: Plus David wears a Red Sox cap on occasion so he fits the profile...
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Say Hey to your buddies in the RCMP for me 
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Called both numbers and spoke about you.
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: You’ll be going to the slammer soon pal!
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
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Reply to @David Amos: Wouldn’t it be poetic justice if you got to press the license plate that ends up on ol’ Panhead (wherever it is now...hehe)
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: You said earlier

'I don’t actually have any buddies in the RCMP. But I’m a huge fan of Blakely, Lynch, and good ‘Ol Sgt Moe though."
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks anyone who bothered to read a recent article about the actions of your pal Cpl Blakely of the Major Crimes Unit then they would know its legal for the cops to lie about investigating who stole my Panhead etc in 2007 N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks everybody who has been paying attention to your recent efforts to jerk my chain must realize you are a minor shill for the RCMP who spreads the bs for them on a daily basis lately to keep yourself from being arrested N'esy Pas? 
 

DeanRoger Ray
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Reply to @David Amos: No one stole your bike. You tried to get around insurance laws by using a phony address to obtain tags in NH (which at the time did not require insurance). When it was determined that you had years worth of outstanding Road Tax in that state your bike was impounded and later sold at auction. Stop omitting facts sir.
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
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Reply to @David Amos: I would have had to commit a crime to be eligible for arrest. Calling bs on you is not a crime anywhere outside of your own mind.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks you cyber harassment of my daughters within the last couple of days won't win you many more pals within the RCMP N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: BS The RCMP and I know where my Panhead is
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: BTW Methinks you should change your ID again Everybody knows that you are not who you claim to be today I trust that many cops know why you used to pretend to be me N'esy Pas?  
 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/dragons-den-rexton-business-1.5801142 

 

Pitching small-town New Brunswick to the Dragons

Rexton entrepreneur leverages love of his hometown in six-figure deal with investors

 

Marie Sutherland· CBC News· Posted: Nov 14, 2020 8:00 AM AT

 

 

Sawyer Hannay's Rexton-based business got a $150,000 boost after his successful pitch to the investors on Dragons' Den. (Submitted by Sawyer Hannay)

You don't have to sell the charms of small-town New Brunswick to Sawyer Hannay.

But Hannay, who was born and raised in the tiny village of Rexton, is pretty good at selling the charms of small-town New Brunswick to the world. And on Thursday night, that earned his Rexton-based business, Country Liberty, a $150,000 vote of confidence from the business titans on Dragons' Den.

Hannay, 28, started his business — a line of casual, outdoors-inspired clothing — when he was still in university. He had already travelled extensively, having been drafted to the NHL for the Vancouver Canucks, and the more he travelled, the more he realized what a gem his hometown was.

"I grew really proud of the place I was from," he said. "I wanted to represent that pride somehow, and I knew the easiest way to do that was to wear it."

He started Country Liberty as a "passion project," ordering 12 T-shirts and putting the Country Liberty logo on them.

"All I was hoping for was to make my money back on the shirts," he said. "But it just took off from there."

Sawyer Hannay's Rexton-based business got a $150,000 boost after his successful pitch to the investors on Dragons' Den. (Submitted by Sawyer Hannay)

You don't have to sell the charms of small-town New Brunswick to Sawyer Hannay.

But Hannay, who was born and raised in the tiny village of Rexton, is pretty good at selling the charms of small-town New Brunswick to the world. And on Thursday night, that earned his Rexton-based business, Country Liberty, a $150,000 vote of confidence from the business titans on Dragons' Den.

Hannay, 28, started his business — a line of casual, outdoors-inspired clothing — when he was still in university. He had already travelled extensively, having been drafted to the NHL for the Vancouver Canucks, and the more he travelled, the more he realized what a gem his hometown was.

"I grew really proud of the place I was from," he said. "I wanted to represent that pride somehow, and I knew the easiest way to do that was to wear it."

He started Country Liberty as a "passion project," ordering 12 T-shirts and putting the Country Liberty logo on them.

"All I was hoping for was to make my money back on the shirts," he said. "But it just took off from there."

Sawyer Hannay pitches his Country Liberty business on Dragons' Den. (Submitted by Sawyer Hannay)

Rexton a key ingredient to his success

The Country Liberty brand has since grown to include a line of wine made by a local winery and rustic Liberty Village rental cabins on the Richibucto River, all of it promoted on social media sites that lean heavily on New Brunswick's natural beauty as a backdrop for almost every photo.

It's all part of the expanding lifestyle experience Hannay is pitching, and Rexton, with its sprawling, unspoiled vistas, is a key ingredient to its success.

"People love the vastness and the outdoorsy nature of it," he said. "It's what I grew up with, we grew up barefoot and running wild on tons of land, with beaches and a river nearby … and I know now how fortunate we were."

 

Sometimes Hannay's photo promotions just feature New Brunswick scenes, such as this one of Cap-Pele, captioned: New Brunswick, Canada. Our home and inspiration to represent rural Canadians right accross this wonderful country. Isn’t she beautiful! (Submitted by Sawyer Hannay)

Hannay has been steadily growing the company's market, leveraging social media and websites and strategic collaborations with big-name brands (a recent Coors ad features a group of young adults wearing Country Liberty T-shirts) and says with tools like this, running a business from a village on the outer reaches of the country is completely doable.

There are some cons — operating from a rural location means higher delivery costs, for example  — but basically, he said, "as long  as I have my phone and my laptop, I can run the business from anywhere."

But extra investment funding never hurts.

Earlier this year, he made the trek to Saint John to try for the regional qualifying pitch for Dragons' Den and made the cut.

New Brunswick scenes, such as this covered bridge in Richibucto, feature prominently in Country Liberty's social media campaigns. (Submitted by Sawyer Hannay)

N.B. shoutouts on Dragons' Den

On Thursday, the episode featuring Hannay aired. Wearing one of his own lumberjack-plaid jackets, he sold his rural brand on a Toronto-based film production set, and there were New Brunswick shoutouts aplenty.

"I told them New Brunswick was my inspiration," Hannay said.

Not all the Dragons were on board with his pitch. Some thought it was "too distracted," that he should narrow the scope and just focus on clothes.

But Arlene Dickinson, an eight-season Dragons' veteran and one of Canada's leading entrepreneurs, leaned in.

At first, she said, she too thought it was "too distracted," with clothes, blankets, rental cabins, wines.

"And then I started thinking about small-town New Brunswick," Dickinson said. "And the fact that you said most of your customers are existing customers and repeat customers. I think the community you're building and the way you're building it is incredibly smart. Especially where you're doing it from."

The bottom line? Hannay got the $150,000 backing, and left the show pumping his fist in the air.

A view of the Richibucto River from a rental cabin in Hannay's Liberty Village. (Submitted by Sawyer Hannay)

Sharing accolades with his home province

On Friday, an elated Hannay said he'll meet with his team to decide how best to focus that money, but bolstering his social media reach will be a key part of it.

Representing New Brunswick will be a key part of it as well.

By early Friday afternoon, Hannay was just scratching the surface of the waves of congratulatory messages that have come in, many from New Brunswickers who watched the show and said he "made New Brunswick proud."

For Hannay, sharing the accolades with his home province is only fitting.

"I'm so proud of where I live," he said. "I've travelled so many places, and I learned that this is a very special place. And I'm thrilled to be able to get others to see that it's a special place, too." 

About the Author

Marie Sutherland is a web writer with CBC New Brunswick based in Saint John. You can reach her at marie.sutherland@cbc.ca.

 

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David Amos
Methinks the Irving Clan and many other old Maritmers such as I have many fond memories of that area and for me Camp Wildwood in particular decades before Sawyer Hannay was born Hence we who enjoy speaking Chiac with our French friends should agree that he has every right to brag of his Hometown N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos 
Chalk up one for the little guy
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: We agree in this instance. 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks only your buddies in the RCMP would care what you think about anything N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: I don’t actually have any buddies in the RCMP. But I’m a huge fan of Blakely, Lynch, and good ‘Ol Sgt Moe though.
 
 
David Amos 
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Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks everybody who bothered to read a recent article about the actions of your pal Cpl Blakely investigating the demise of one of the cops who stole my Harley etc in 2007 then they would know its legal for the cops to lie Furthermore everybody who has been paying attention to your recent efforts to jerk my chain must realize you are a minor shill for the RCMP who spreads the bs for them on a daily basis lately to keep yourself from being arrested N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Desperate shills say desperate things 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Luke Armstrong
NB an awesome little province! I love the beauty, peace and especially the people.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Luke Armstrong: Me Too
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire
All the best, Mr. Hannay. The family name is very well known for their business knack in that area. . Rexton and Kent County are a gem. Wish you great success!
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks my friends in Kent County should remind your SANB political pals of what I pitched to the Dragons Den's producers when they came to Fat Fred City many moons ago because like your buddy little Lou you would never believe me N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell
I could be wrong , but I was quite certain I heard Hannay say on the show that he was drafted by the Vancouver Canucks at the age of 17 . I don't believe playewrs that young were allowed to be in the NHL draft at that age . False facts stated in the public domain these days don't take long to catch up to someone . I may be wrong , just sayin' . Perhaps someone can verify this . A lot of times Midget aged hockey players are drafted into Junior Hockey at age 17 .
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Lou Bell: I apologize . He was born Sept 2 , 1992 and was drafted in the 2010 NHL draft by the Vancouver Canucks . Normally the draft is held in June so he would have been 17 years old at the time . He was the 213th pick . Good job Sawyer and good luck in your venture 
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Lou DumBell: Old Lou, foot and mouth disease, as usual.
 
 
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Tell ya what Jos, he owned up to his mistake and clarified the facts as well. Full marks for that, it doesn't happen very often here.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Carlson MacKenzie: Certainly not form her!
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Oh So True
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Doug McBride
New Brunswick is a wonderful place to call home and I am glad this young man has decided to live his dream here! I have a Country Liberty hat and wear it proudly! We will also plan to stay in his cabins next summer and stay vacation in New Brunswick! Hopefully our grandkids in the West will be available to visit next summer and we can take them as well! Well done young man!
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Doug McBride: Good for you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Theo Lavigne
Good luck with your venture young man, hope you succeed...
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Theo Lavigne: I second your remark
 
 
 
 
 
  

 


Promised health-care reform consultations to begin soon, wrap up in March, says minister

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Methinks it would not be wise for me to trust the word of minister who denies my right to free health care and her minions invite me to sue her N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/health-reform-new-brunswick-consultations-shephard-march-1.5801548

 

 

Promised health-care reform consultations to begin soon, wrap up in March, says minister

Dorothy Shephard wants broad discussion on how to address chronic staffing shortages

 

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Nov 14, 2020 7:00 AM AT

 


Health Minister Dorothy Shephard says she wants to know what communities fear so she can try to address those fears while still dealing the challenges. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

New Brunswick's health minister says she now has a framework for health reform consultations that she hopes can begin soon and wrap up by the end of March 2021.

Dorothy Shephard said some technical details still have to be worked out but she wants a broad discussion on how the province should address chronic staffing shortages in the system.

"Much of this is probably going have to be done virtually, but we want to make sure we get the biggest possible participation we can get in these COVID times," she said Friday.

This week, three mayors of communities where hospitals were going to see emergency department reductions earlier this year said they were still waiting for the consultations Premier Blaine Higgs promised in February.

The government announced the nighttime closure of six small-hospital ERs as a way of shifting scant resources to the delivery of primary care during the day to benefit more patients.

But large protests prompted Higgs to backtrack within days of the announcement.

He promised to visit the six communities and to convene a health summit in June to look at other ways of addressing the shortages.

The COVID-19 pandemic upended that plan but Shephard said she has now settled on a timeline that would see consultations unfold during the winter and wrap up by March 31.

Protests erupted outside the hospitals at the centre of the now-halted health-care reforms, including the Sussex Health Centre. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

 

The staffing challenge that the February plan was aimed at addressing led Horizon Health to close seven inpatient acute-care beds last month at the Hôtel-Dieu of St. Joseph hospital in Perth-Andover. It was one of the six hospitals affected by the February plan.

The Progressive Conservatives added $9.2 million to the health budget this year for recruiting doctors to rural areas and for adding nurse practitioners to clinics and emergency departments.

Shephard acknowledged that the consultations won't necessarily lead to a decision that makes everyone happy.

"We are not ever going to please everybody but my hope is that we can come up with a vision that communities will get behind because they see what it can do for their community," she said. "We don't want to leave any community behind."

The mayors of the six communities that would have seen reduced ER hours "understood that changes might have to occur," she said.

"That was the one of the reasons I said I want to know what communities fear. In understanding what those fears are, maybe we can address them along the way. That's why we can't do it in isolation."

 

 

 

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David Amos
Methinks it would not be wise for me to trust the word of minister who denies my right to free health care and her minions invite me to sue her N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
"The mayors of the six communities that would have seen reduced ER hours "understood that changes might have to occur"

Yea right Thats not what I have been hearing
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Methinks Higgy et al must survive the vote on the Throne Speech first N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks if the five members of Higgy's caucus he booted out of the cabinet sat as Independents just like his former deputy did before he crossed the floor then they would have some serious leverage on whatever minority mandate they wished to support for the benefit of the folks who elected them again N'esy Pas?

 
 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
I can't imagine a Minister of Health, in NB, standing up, with a straight face, and suggesting "chronic staffing shortages" are a "new" thing, that time should be wasted on discussing.
EVERYONE, who owns/has owned a business knows how to fix "chronic staffing shortages", why does our Minister of Health remain clueless?
Or are we being fobbed off with BS?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks that must be a rhetorical question because everybody knows the answer N'esy Pas?
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Stalling tactics. Good old Blame Higgs deathly afraid to spend 10 cents.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Mary Smith
She reminds me of Dolores Umbridge.

I don't know enough about her though, but I've read her interviews and have seen her dodge questions as good as other politicians do. Time will tell, but I don't have high hopes.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @: I have spoken with Shephard when she was in opposition and she seemed to be a straight shooter but as soon as Higgy and the PANB got the mandate and made her a cabinet minister she displayed her true colours to me and many others N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Right............
So what is it to be, "public consultation", or "public decree"?
We all know the wages, and benefits, are sub par, along with the working conditions.
So, one can only take away from this is another study, and more nothing.
 
 
Billy Buckner
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Terry "spend first, ask questions later" Tibbs has spoken.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Buckner: So did you
 

 

 

 

 

 

New interim leader resigns shortly after New Brunswick NDP election

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Too Too Funny 

Methinks it ain't too hard to figure out why the devious unionized Fake Left/Fake News CBC wackos blocked so many comments as this little circus unfolded its tent in New Brunswick today N'esy Pas?

 

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New interim leader resigns shortly after New Brunswick NDP election

Nathan Davis steps down citing a family emergency; position will be vacant until another vote can be held

 

CBC News· Posted: Nov 15, 2020 10:43 AM AT Last Updated: 17 minutes ago

 

 

New Brunswick NDP to choose new interim leader

Party holding virtual meeting to vote on temporary replacement

CBC News· Posted: Nov 15, 2020 10:43 AM AT


 The NDP in New Brunswick is currently without a leader (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)

The New Brunswick NDP elected a new interim leader Sunday afternoon, but the position was vacated within an hour.

The party elected communications director Nathan Davis.

But Davis, citing a family emergency, stepped down shortly after the party's virtual meeting ended.

Mackenzie Thomason was the interim leader since March 2019.

He resigned to take over as the party's executive director, which sparked the need for another interim leader.

Thomason was surprised to hear that Davis had resigned, but said he supports his decision.

"The family emergency has put him in a different predicament, a different spot, and he is not able to go forward," he said Sunday evening.

Nathan Davis was elected as the new interim leader for New Brunswick's NDP Sunday afternoon. However, he stepped down from the role within an hour of being elected. (Gary Moore/CBC)

Davis defeated Don Paulin for the job Sunday afternoon. Paulin ran for the NDP as Don Durant in the September election.

The interim leadership position will remain vacant until the party can hold another vote.

Thomason doesn't know when that will happen, but said it could be next month.

The party has been without a permanent leader since Jennifer McKenzie stepped down after the 2018 provincial election.

Thomason led the party through the 2020 snap election, where it failed to win any seats for a fifth consecutive election. 

He planned to serve as interim leader for just four months. But he remained after the only leadership candidate was disqualified, and then the COVID-19 pandemic hit.

The NDP won just 1.7 per cent of the vote, down from five per cent in 2018. It was the party's worst showing in 50 years.

 

Mackenzie Thomason was the most recent interim leader. (Gary Moore/CBC)

It did not run a full slate of candidates in the September election. Several ridings in francophone New Brunswick did not have NDP candidates.

It plans to select a permanent leader before the next scheduled provincial election.

 

 

 

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David Amos
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Too Too Funny
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
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Methinks Cardy is running low on Lou's butter tarts waiting for the news N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tim Simmons
They need to lose the map on their signs. We already know we're in NB (as I assume they do). Grand Manan and Campobello are missing.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Tim Simmons: Methinks they can't afford new signs N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
murphy ron
Keep MacKensie Thomason, if he wants the job. At least he appears more upbeat and connected, than the staid Higgs and long gone Vickers. Remember, we are a province of gereatrics at the moment, so things will change.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @murphy ron: Tut Tut Tut You should show some respect for your elders. I know for fact the paperboy with the funny tie never did.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @murphy ron: He doesn't. He resigned as interim leader in order to become executive director.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Les Cooper
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Why even bother lol
 
 
Roland Stewart
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Reply to @Les Cooper: I came on here and was going to type those exact words lol.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Les Cooper: Methinks the circus can always use more clowns N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
John Grail
You can't beat a dead horse...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @John Grail: If that were true then why do ya?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire
Mackenzie Thomason really impressed me during the debates.
 
 
Roland Stewart
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Would need a little more than an hour to impress me.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks that ain't saying much N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Buford Wilson:
It's time to wind down the NDP. Put it out to pasture.
A relic of a bygone era.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Buford Wilson: I agree. It is dividing the left.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks you mean the Fake Left N'esy Pas?
 
 
Terry Tibbs  
Reply to @Jos Allaire:
It's hard to tell, at times, what it is doing.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dale MacNaughton
It was a typical NDP campaign. Kooky candidates and screwball policies.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dale MacNaughton: Methinks the same can be said of all the political parties N'esy Pas?
 
 
Terry Tibbs 
Reply to @David Amos:
Especially in NB.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Allan J Whitney
Good luck. We will get back to you when we need someone we know and love to undertake the looting of the treasury. We are much more comfortable when it is done by predatory foreign corporations.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Allan J Whitney: Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Gabriel Boucher
The NDPs core values are now reflected amongst other parties, so I doubt they'll make a comeback anytime soon unless they can somehow differentiate themselves from the rest of the pack. And with the loss of support for their party, it'll take decades to get their base back up and running, if that were to happen.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Gabriel Boucher: Methinks Cardy would agree that the unions will always be in the NDP corner overseeing the circus N'esy Pas?
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
They even managed to alienate the unions.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
michael levesque
i though Mackenzie Thomason did an EXCELLENT job at the TV debates.
 
 
Buford Wilson
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(Were you drinking that night, michael?)  
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Buford Wilson: Is there any night that you don't?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Marc Bourque
NDP is a loosing party,simply look at how Singh pandered up to trudeau...they cannot stand on their own 2 feet....want to waste a vote ...vote ndp
 
 
Anne Bérubé
Reply to @Marc Bourque: Absolutely. A party who is incoherent of real problems and a national leader who chose to form a coalition with Trudeau, not good politics. Would it cross the floor if asked? Absolutely, the party is broke and nowhere to go.
 
 
Jos Allaire
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Reply to @Anne Bérubé: CONservatives are sour grapes because no one else wants to associate with them. Luzzers is what they are! 
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks you overlooked their PANB pals Nesy Pas?
 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Marc Bourque:
They have been in continuous train wreck mode since Jack Layton passed.

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Woodlot owners say N.B. pricing system keeps them from cashing in on high lumber demand

Allege system hides true price for private wood

 

Connell Smith· CBC News· Posted: Nov 16, 2020 6:30 AM AT 

 


Bruce Colpitts on one of his family's woodlots in Shannon. 'Costs have not gone down,' he says. (Graham Thompson, CBC)

About 7,000 vehicles a day pass the billboard on New Brunswick Route 1 at Sussex. 

'We're buying wood!', it announces, with a link to the J.D. Irving Ltd. website and a phone number: 855-WOODLOT.

In the background stands the JDI  sawmill, with long rows of stacked logs.

Dialling that number is one of a handful of ways woodlot owners can get their timber to the province's biggest buyer.

If you sign a contract with the company, you can collect $64.25 a metric tonne for spruce studwood logs used to make two-by-fours.

It's a rate that is maddeningly low for those woodlot owners who are selling logs. And it hasn't budged despite booming lumber sales in North America this year.

These private wood sellers see the price as a symptom of a broken system, where some are quietly paid more for their logs, and an abundance of trees available to mills from Crown land prevents the majority from cashing in when times are good.

J.D. Irving Ltd. sends a message to woodlot owners from a billboard at Sussex. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

About 40 minutes to the west of Sussex, at his family farm in Shannon, one of those private growers, Bruce Colpitts, recalls some wisdom shared 20 years ago by his wife's grandfather, Lawrence McCrea. 

"He said, 'Look after the land and the land will look after you,'" said Colpitts. "Well, 20 years ago the price of studwood was about $80 a tonne. Today that exact same product purchased here is $65 a tonne.

"And I guarantee you our costs have not gone down."

Across the provincial border, Nova Scotia woodlot owners are collecting $75 to $93 a tonne for the same wood at the gates to their mills. 

Not easy to sell in Nova Scotia

Those higher prices, triggered in part by a COVID-related jump in demand for lumber, aren't being realized by New Brunswick tree growers who don't see hauling the wood to Nova Scotia as an easy remedy.

Not only are there added travel costs to reach that province's mills, but U.S. tariffs on New Brunswick's lumber make it more difficult to process that wood.

Nova Scotia is exempt from U.S. lumber tariffs, a status New Brunswick also enjoyed until May 2017, when the U.S. concluded the rising share of Crown wood being consumed in this province was  distorting the market, acting as an unfair subsidy to our mills.

A 20.8 per cent tariff was slapped on lumber originating in New Brunswick. JDI was targeted at a lower rate, 9.9 per cent.

 

Softwood logs await transport on a New Brunswick woods road. Prices for private woodlot owners are considerably lower than they were 20 years ago. (Graham Thompson, CBC)

So while the quality of Nova Scotia logs is no different than those of New Brunswick, they require a completely separate accounting system.

 "They can't run it through the mill with the Nova Scotia wood," said Neil Silliker, general manager of the South East New Brunswick Forest Products Marketing Board, whose members, overwhelmingly family woodlot owners, have the best shot at capitalizing on higher prices across the provincial border. "They've got to clean all the New Brunswick sawdust, chips, lumber out of the mill in order to run Nova Scotia wood again."

As a result mills in that province have a preference for local logs, if they're available.

Cheaper New Brunswick wood has also held down prices at those Maine mills closest to our border, making the trip there less attractive to many sellers, according to the Carlton Victoria Forest Products Marketing Board in Florenceville.

Two-tier system

But groups representing the province's woodlot owners have long claimed the biggest reason prices are being held down at home is that the largest mill owners have access to similar trees in the grandest woodlot of all, the taxpayer-owned Crown forest.

The price paid by those companies for trees taken from Crown land are based on the private market, in other words, on how much woodlot owners can fetch for their trees.

The woodlot groups claim there's a two-tier system. On one side, low prices paid to private landowners keep Crown wood prices in check. On the other, harvesting contractors, who have established relationships with the mills are being paid premium prices for logs.  And those premiums aren't being shared with the landowner and aren't being disclosed to the New Brunswick Forest Products Commission, the arm's-length panel overseeing the private wood market and keeping track of prices. 

"There's a lot of things happening that no one is tracking," said Rick Doucett, president of the New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot Owners. And so it's very difficult to know for sure what's happening out there, and what's fair and not fair."

 

U.S. trade rules mean Nova Scotia mills have to store, saw and account for New Brunswick logs separate from their own. (Nicolas Steinbach, Radio-Canada)

In her October report, Auditor General Kim Adair–MacPherson, said only 20 to 30 per cent of the approximately 200 larger harvesting contractors respond to surveys on stumpage prices sent to them by the Commission. 

There is no enforcement, even though it is required by law.

Her report recommends the province enforce the rule, or find a new way to get a more complete picture of that part of the market.

She also noted the province doesn't have a written definition for what constitutes fair market value for Crown stumpage, and that the province hasn't adjusted Crown timber rates, as required annually by law, since 2015.

Even so, to the dismay of private woodlot owners,  Adair–MacPherson concluded the system for tracking private wood sales to set Crown wood rates is 'statistically sound' and a significant improvement over methods used in the past.

At the commission, executive director Tim Fox said the study on private tree sales examines 18,000 transactions, 60 per cent of which are between contractors and woodlot owners providing an "accurate reflection" of the market overall.

 

Prices for New Brunswick logs remained largely stable despite sharp increases in lumber prices this summer. (Graham Thompson, CBC)

He said it is up to woodlot owners to ensure they are getting a good price for their trees by educating themselves about the market, something the province's woodlot marketing boards should be helping with. 

"There may be certain cases where there may be [harvesting contractors] receiving a premium from a mill and not sharing a proportion (or any) of that premium with the woodlot owner when they could," said Fox. "When, or if that is the case, those wood producers directly contribute to keeping average stumpage rates lower." 

Representatives from the majority of the province's marketing boards disagree with Adair-MacPherson's conclusion that the stumpage study, for the most part, is working.

At the Carlton Victoria Forest Products Marketing Board, Chair Andrew Clark says the Auditor General's team wasn't given the right numbers.

Is the data right?

"There's an old saying about computers, you know, garbage in, garbage out," said Clark. "We dispute entirely the fact that they can establish or pay a royalty rate based on these, on this stumpage data."

Mike Holland, the New Brunswick minister of natural resources and energy says he has confidence in the private wood prices survey. But he is on record saying there's work to be done on the province's forest management system. He's beefed up funding to allow the Forest Products Commission to add more staff to expand and speed up data gathering.

That, he said, will make the system more transparent, reassuring both international trade partners and the province's private woodlot sector.

An organization representing the province's mills says New Brunswick's private wood market is secure and stable, featuring sales between 'willing buyers and willing sellers, free from high price volatility seen elsewhere. 

In the meantime questions are being raised about the whereabouts of a Deloitte study commissioned by the province in 2018. 

Its mandate was to examine the forest products market in New Brunswick and in other comparable markets, and do an analysis of the "process and methodology" used to determine Crown wood rates.

The woodlot groups contributed to the study and have requested, without success, to see the final report.

A spokesperson for the Department of Natural Resources and Energy said the report is being reviewed and will be released in early 2021.

About the Author

Connell Smith is a reporter with CBC in Saint John. He can be reached at 632-7726 Connell.smith@cbc.ca

 

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David Amos 
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Methinks the irvings want the private wood around Sussex because the Crown wood is gone N'esy Pas?

See for yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNUiUT5aLZc&feature=emb_title 

 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos 
Methinks some of the private woodlot owners in the Sussex area may be regretting the fact that I was barred from debating Northrup et al about this nonsense during the election in 2018 N'esy Pas?







Sammy Kofax
Suck it up. You have amazing years and you have bad years. Just like other markets like lobster ! Ha. What a joke this is. It will never change. Either get out of the business or monopolize like the big boyz!!
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Sammy Kofax: Surely you jest
 
 
Rudy Hicks
Reply to @Sammy Kofax: You are not an economist, I see.
 
 
Rudy Hicks
Reply to @Sammy Kofax: There are NO amazing years as a woodlot owner in this province, unless you are irving.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Justin Gunther
If the economic situation isn't viable then why are you still selling your wood? Are you still making money? I'm having a hard time experiencing sympathy for somebody who likely inherited millions of dollars in property.
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Maybe you could take some of your money, but an apartment building, and then jack the rent up 150% if that'll be more profitable for you. Who decides what stories get run anyway?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Trudeau
 
 
Rudy Hicks
Reply to @Justin Gunther: That is a completely unfounded statement, and only goes to show how little you know about the situation.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: He is in his own little world
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Amajor Hall
Bro, all you have to do is to 300 Union St, SJ, NB and take it up with the people there, they can surely help!
 
 
Darryl Hill
Reply to @Amajor Hall: I wonder if Irving makes people wait 3 months or more for an answer. They are notorious for making people wait for their payments.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Darryl Hill: Methinks that been their MO since I was in diapers N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: I recall my Father sending the Sheriff to put chains on the gates of their refinery in order to make them pay their property taxes
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Alfred Watson
I'm only 70 but there has never been a time in those years you could get paid for BOTH your work AND trees from your wooodlot.. likely won't change over the next 100 years either. Don't worry, be happy.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Alfred Watson: I am only 68 and I know the secret to happiness after the kids have grown and flown away

Methinks Higgy et al are well aware that I am Happy Happy Happy stress testing legions of unethical politicians, lawyers and cops on a daily basis N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chantal LeBouthi
Woodlots owners are like a DSL committee they don’t have no administrative financial or contractual authority.
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Frank McKenna and his SANB Liberals took crown land leases away from the small private woodlot owners and gave them to the large operators !
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you wish to forget that your hero Bernie Lord promised to switch it back if elected and never did N'esy Pas?
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Lou DumBell: And further to what Mr. Amos stated, CONservative Alward and Paul Robichaud gave big industry whatever was left of public lands. Now that they have full control, what more can you expect?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chantal LeBouthi
NB conservative don’t care about NB forest or the environment protection or about small wood lots owner

They never did never will bad management is the conservatives way
 
 
David Peters
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi:
This is definitely bipartisan chicanery.
 
 
Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @David Peters:
Im not in any political party and you cannot denial Alward disaster forest plan who made sure of the long term destruction of NB forest and wildlife
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Time to get over the Liberal election loss , quit blaming others , and move on . Liberals did nothing to help the private wood lot owners , they were too busy planning their " Phonie Games " !!!
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: McKenna took away crown land leases from the small private woodlot owners and gave them to the big companies ! Their damage to the small operators was immense ! Time to place blame where it all began !!!!!!!
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @David Peters: Yup Everybody knows the Irving Clan keeps a tight leash on all the political animals even the Green Meanies I witnessed it first hand over a public debate in Sussex during the election in 2018
 
 
David Webb NB
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: "I'm not in any political party"? Definitely partizan though. Wise to be critical of all parties, because none of them care about you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Peters
Price controls and monopolization of the economy are hallmarks of socialism/fascism.
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Peters:
Try telling that to those demanding rent controls.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Well put
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chantal LeBouthi
Alward conservative is responsible for all The this mess
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Methinks many would agree that this malicious nonsense goes back to Hatfield and every Premier since Now its Higgy's job to maintain the status quo for the benefit of his buddies not the sheople he purportedly serves N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Buddy Best
Irving!!! Irving!!! Irving!!! No more need be said!!!!
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Buddy Best: add on AV and Twin Rivers
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Samual Johnston: and Frank Boy and his cohorts
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jim Johnston
New Brunswick are subsidizing the forest industry - and always have been. Shame that when we are constantly in a deficit position that we have to subsidize a very profitable industry. At one time many years ago there was some justification because the forest industry employed so many people but that is no longer the case.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Jim Johnston: I concur
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Matt Steele
Not really surprising . Many years ago former Liberal Premier Frank McKenna ordered that all the Crown Land leases be taken away from the small private woodlot owners without compensation , and be given to the big forestry companies for next to nothing , and that is the way it remains to this day . Why would big forestry companies want to buy lumber at a fair price when they can get it so cheaply from Crown land . Welcome to N.B. .
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Matt Steele: Agreed the system is taking money out of the taxpayers pockets in order to subsidize the big mills. Twin Rivers is from the USA and AV is out of India and Irving NB/Bermuda.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Samual Johnston: BINGO
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael Collins
Basically one company controls New Brunswick's forests and decides how much they are going to pay and how much wood they will harvest. They have been handed management of crown lands by the government and do as they please. They set market prices and have even managed to convince the Americans that they should receive reduced tariffs. Good luck trying to change the current system.
 
 
Aaron Lagendyk
Reply to @Michael Collins: NB will never have a democratic free market.
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Michael Collins: Twin Rivers is American owned and AV is out if India - On the Pulp side I believe they are even bigger than Irving - have to look that up though.
 
 
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @Michael Collins: Exactly.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Michael Collins: Methinks you are preaching to a choir of apathetic sheople who complain about the nonsense but do nothing about it and in fact vote for the very political parties that created the mess in the first place N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Peters
Reply to @David Amos:
Except for the fact that most ppl either don't vote, or vote for something other than the blue/red uniparty.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @David Peters: The first and last time I ever voted in my life was in 2018 That was when i was allowed to vote for myself. Furthermore my Mother is the widow of a former Chief Electoral Officer so go figure why you are trying to tell me something I already know very well
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dave Shimla
a certain company set the pricing years ago to shut down small family owned wood harvesting companies. they undercut everyone at the mill with free wood from crown lands. pretty easy to lower your price when you get your raw materials for free.
 
 
Carlson MacKenzie
Reply to @Dave Shimla: Exactly.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Dave Shimla: Methinks its been par for the course since Franky Boy won every seat in NB many moons ago N'esy Pas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saint John city hall silent on cyberattack details

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Cleanup from Saint John cyberattack could last months, says cyber security expert

'If they can get it ... running in a normal capacity in the next couple of months, I'll be amazed'

 

CBC News· Posted: Nov 16, 2020 10:45 AM AT 

 


Saint John announced Sunday that it was victim of a 'significant' cyber attack. (Martchan/Shutterstock)

A cyberattack on a municipality never comes at a good time, but a cyber security expert says the attack on Saint John's internet infrastructure comes at a particularly bad time.

On Sunday, the city announced there'd been a "significant" cyberattack, which forced it to shut down several online services, including payment systems, email and the city's website.

David Shipley, the CEO of Beauceron Security, a New Brunswick-based cybersecurity firm, said the city has a long road ahead of it after the cyberattack, one complicated by the COVID-19 pandemic.

"You've got to figure out in a pandemic how you're going to be able to check all these computers and thoroughly assess if they're safe to go back on the network," Shipley said Monday.

"With a sophisticated attack, and this looks to be among the ranks of very sophisticated attacks, you're going to have to almost completely reset everything in order to be sure that the system you're rebuilding from the ground up is trustworthy."

The city has advised people who may have used its online services to check their bank accounts and credit cards for suspicious activity.

Russian origins suspected

While there has been no official word on who may be behind the attack, Shipley said the modus operandi of the attacks fits similar attacks caused by groups connected to Russian organized crime.

This includes groups using a type of the ransomware, Ryuk, which Shipley said is responsible for 30 per cent of similar attacks in recent months.

He said the Saint John cyberattack is the first major one on a New Brunswick municipality, but there have been others in Canada.

It is unclear whether the Saint John problem falls under the category of a ransomware attack, in which the group or person doing the attacking asks for money to restore the system.

Cleanup of the Saint John attack will involved checking all computers and thoroughly assessing whether they're safe to go back on the network, David Shipley, the CEO Beauceron Security, a New Brunswick-based cybersecurity firm. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC)

"Ransomware has been an issue," said Shipley.

"We saw three Ontario cities in 2019 go down to it. To my knowledge, Saint John may be the largest Canadian city to go down to ransomware attack, but we've seen far larger cities, like Atlanta, go down to sophisticated attacks similar in nature to this."

Shipley said this is becoming a growing problem. Some cities and organizations are choosing to pay the ransom, while others refuse.

To pay, or not to pay

While paying a ransom may quickly solve the immediate access issue, it raises several concerns.

"Number one, you don't know if you actually pay it [if] it'll work," said Shipley.

"Number two, these criminal groups will recycle that money … it's problematic because you're fuelling that organized crime. And third, many of these groups are under U.S. sanctions, and so paying ransoms may trigger certain unhealthy international relations between Canada and the U.S."


Shipley said the Saint John attack is the first major cyber attack on a New Brunswick municipality, but there have been others in Canada. In the U.S., Atlanta is among the cities attacked and spent months recovering. (Shutterstock / vchal)

Shipley said regardless of the specifics of the attack, the cleanup for the city will last weeks if not months.

"If they can get it up, back up and running in a normal capacity in the next couple of months, I'll be amazed," he said.

"I mean, we look at Atlanta. It took them from March to June to get everything back up and running."

With files from Information Morning Saint John

 

 

 

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David Amos
Methinks there are a lot of IT guys drooling thinking about all the money they are gonna make fixing things if this continues N'esy Pas?
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @David Amos: Remember paper and pens? Our current trajectory is clearly superior in a myriad of different ways and don't you dare say anything otherwise.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: You have to grow up before you can dare to challenge me to say something that may suit your agenda
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Seems that somebody didn't like my reply
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sammy Kofax
Need to go back to old days! Money clip and line ups !!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Sammy Kofax: I like my debit card and cash but it seems that hospitals and hotels don't for no reason I will ever understand
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jim Smith
Where is John Adams when you need him?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jim Smith: He teaches at Queens while enjoying his fat fed pension
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Donald Gallant
So what’s the scoop. We’re they wise and spent the money to keep up to date or is their tech system old and out of date ?

This needs an inquiry !
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Donald Gallant: Let's get some bureaucrats together so they can form a $100,000 subcommittee to figure out how this happened and then maybe tell us 30% of the truth two years from now... :)
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Justin Gunther: That is assuming there is a two years from now, of course.
 
 
Ray Bungay
Reply to @Justin Gunther: A $30K new study should take place. I have three Apple devices that are fully encrypted and I am 100% positive I am not fully safe. For a small city like SJ data needs the best attention no matter the cost.
 
 
Douglas James
Reply to @Justin Gunther: They'll hire an outside consultant and pay them more than it would cost to fix the problem if past practice is any indication.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas James: Methinks they should do what Yankees do N'esy Pas?
 
 
Dennis Regan
Reply to @David Amos: n'est-ce pas? Oui?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dennis Regan: Nope not to we who parle the Chiac lingo
 
 
Dennis Regan
Reply to @David Amos:
I'm a rookie trying to learn French, and I'm not too far advanced. Fancified Chiac lingo? I might get there some day.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dennis Regan: Methinks by the look of you may enjoy watching a Fundy Royal Debate where Chiac is spoken N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dennis Regan: Lets just say even with my Scottish heritage i have been called mon petite chou a time or two
 
 
Dennis Regan
Reply to @David Amos:
Ach no! Are ye daft man?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dennis Regan: Nope just crazy about French ladies
 
 
Dennis Regan
Reply to @David Amos:
Chiac is derived from Shediac (looked it up). I'm not even living here yet and have learned something about the place. French ladies? Why in my parts we call dem Femmes.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Dennis Regan: BTW one of my Grandbabies has your last name as her first I gave her Mother a hard time about naming one of my seed after a dubious Yankee republican so in return I call her GOP
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dennis Regan: I call them darling
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dennis Regan: Google

David Raymond Amos scribd "from whence I came"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Douglas James
Not the brightest criminals to demand a ransom from one of Canada's poorest cities.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Douglas James: Lol you believe the noise that the city is poor. The reality is they will either pay to get it fixed or pay to get access to the data. Regardless of the financial state of the city. The citizens and people using services from the cities are the ones at risk. Potentially enough information to steal identities
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Douglas James: Methinks you should think about how bright they may truly be If you ponder it long enough perhaps something may come into the light just like Marblehead does everyday at dawn If it doesn't come to you let me know and I may be permitted to show you the way out of the darkness N'esy Pas?
 
 
Douglas James
Reply to @David Amos: You are as confusing as always David.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas James: Google my name and John Adams CSE and something may dawn on you oh ye who has been to iraq for CNN and managing editor of CanadaInvest etc etc etc
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
bert day
Not to worry. If you see the little padlock you're as safe as a dog on a freeway. Well. Almost as safe as a dog on a freeway.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @bert day: Methinks many would agree that the internet was hacked out of the gate by the NSA N'esy Pas?
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Saint John city hall silent on cyberattack details

Experts say it has the hallmarks of a ransomware attack

 

Mia Urquhart· CBC News· Posted: Nov 16, 2020 6:02 PM AT |

 


Vicky Buchan said $3,000 was etransferred from her bank account while she slept early Monday morning. (Submitted by Vicky Buchan)

When Vicky Buchan woke up for work at 3 a.m. on Monday, cyber thieves had already transferred $3,000 out of her account. 

Because she's made online payments to the City of Saint John, she believes she's part of the recent cyberattack on the city. 

Although the money isn't back in her account yet, her bank assures her that it will be within three to five days. If she hadn't caught it so quickly, she was told, it could have taken longer to get it back — if she got it back at all. 

And she wouldn't have caught it so quickly if she hadn't gotten up for the early shift at the gym she owns, Port City Training and Fitness. 

Buchan believes the cyber thieves deliberately acted in the middle of the night. 

"Oh, 100 per cent deliberate. It's the best likelihood that you're going to be asleep, so that they are long gone by the time you get up and hopefully they get away with it, right?"

At 1 a.m., she received a message from her bank, alerting her that the security questions had been changed. By the time she got up two hours later, the money had been transferred from her business account to her chequing account and then etransferred elsewhere. 

Buchan said her bank told her that because she caught it so quickly, the money was still being "held" and hadn't been transferred to the thieves' account. 

But while the timing is suspicious, it may be a coincidence, say cyber security experts.

They say Saint John's attack appears to be a ransomware attack. 

Essentially, someone breaks into a computer system, encrypts all of the data and then offers to sell you a key to unlock all of your data, explains Mike Smit, an associate professor in Dalhousie University's school of information management.


Mike Smit, an associate professor in Dalhousie University’s school of information management, says Saint John's cyberattack has all the hallmarks of a ransomware attack. (Submitted by Mike Smit)

But Buchan's experience is a good reminder for people to check their accounts often, said Smit. 

Brett Callow, a threat analyst with the British Columbia firm Emsisoft, agrees that Saint John is likely dealing with ransomware. 

"Based on the limited amount of information made available, it certainly appears to have all the hallmarks of a ransomware attack," he said 

"It really is the worst possible time for a city to be hobbled by ransomware. The need for staff to be able to work remotely and for the public to be able to access services remotely makes it critical that IT systems and online portals are available."

City officials not talking

City officials, meanwhile, aren't talking about the cyberattack. Several calls to various city departments, including to Mayor Don Darling, went unanswered or unreturned on Monday. 

CBC News was told the mayor would not be granting any interviews and that any updates would be issued through social media. 

On Monday at about 5:30 p.m., the city tweeted to say it "has been working around the clock to contain the attack and mitigate any current and future risks to the municipality.

The response was immediate, and remains in the best interest of the City and residents. Pertinent updates will continue to be provided to the media and public as more information becomes available, the city said.

The city also said it wants to ensure it doesn't release too much information, "including information on the effectiveness of the attack, the systems affected, and success of our containment efforts.

"Providing this level of detail would be beneficial to the attacker as they could attempt further attacks; it would also provide valuable information to potential copycat hackers; and could compromise investigative efforts."

The city said it continues to work with a number of partners "to help manage any risks."   

Not us, says parking app

The online parking app, HotSpot was quick to separate itself from the recent cyberattack. In a Twitter post sent Monday morning, the company said, "The cyberattack that has impacted the City of Saint John has not compromised HotSpot's customer information or data." 

In December 2018, another cyber breach exposed the names and credit card information of thousands of the city's parking customers.  

Big business

Smit said cyberattacks are a profitable business. He said tracing payments through bitcoins have revealed hundreds of millions of dollars in ill-gotten gains for cyber criminals last year. 

Although there are many players internationally, he said such schemes usually roll out "pretty consistently." 

They'll identify a target and then look up all of the publicly available email addresses. 

"And they'll run some fairly sophisticated, targeted phishing attack, where they try to get the receiver of the email to click a link in that email." 

Clicking on that link, compromises the computer, and alerts someone that an entry has been made. 

"At that point, a human takes over and accesses that system and just starts to poke around." 

Smit said the person who takes over starts looking for passwords and possible entry points into bigger and more valuable targets. 

Most often, the process stops there, "but sometimes they get lucky," said Smit. 

Sometimes they find access into bigger systems. Once there, the intruders find out what's available and usually run in one of two directions. 

They can either go after personal financial information and try to steal smaller sums, or, usually in cases of larger organizations or governments, they can shut the whole system down and go after a ransom.

Smit said organizations usually find out that they've been attacked when their systems go down or they find a ransom note.

Andrei Barysevich, CEO of Gemini Advisory, a Florida-based cyber intelligence company, said the ransom demanded of governments usually falls in the range of $50,000 to $250,000 US, although there have been some as high as several million. 

He said cyber attackers want to make the amount tempting for the victims, so the amount is tailored to the specific circumstances of the organization targeted. 

Barysevich said cyber criminals have been busy during the pandemic and may have found more success with so many employees working from home. 

He said it's a "very common attack vector"— to target people on their personal computers and then try to gain access to the employer's system. 

 

 

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Douglas James
"CBC News was told the mayor would not be granting any interviews and that any updates would be issued through social media. " When politicians refuse to speak to established media outlets and prefer to Tweet, we can kiss democracy goodbye. Does the Mayor not know that many seniors don't use social media but are every bit at risk from cyber criminals, all the more so when information is withheld? 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas James: You still ain't figured it it out EH?
 
 
Douglas James
Reply to @David Amos: Not even trying David.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas James: Leopard can't change his spots 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Just waiting for cbc to get hit. I've been wanting to delete my account for years, but it's forbidden.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: You gave CBC your credit card and/or bank account information? Good grief, Ben, what were you thinking?
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: You KNOW what my point is. This is the ONLY social media where you are not allowed to del your account.
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: But I guess that's okay with you.
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: If they have your email address, that's all they need. Do you do e transfer?
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Did you supply them with your name and address?
 
 
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Did you get to Calais for Raw tobacco and cheap milk?
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: You DO realize that 14 tracking companies are on here right now as guests don't you?
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Not yet. Quit the chaw years ago, and don't like cow juice.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: If they have my e-mail address, they can transfer money *to* me. I have no problem with that.
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Whatever. My name and my e-mail address isn't going to get them far. Heck, they can even look up my phone number! Woo-hoo!
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: They have psychologically profiled you in ways you wouldn't even fathom. Woo-hoo!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: They deleted 3 of my accounts
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Back in 2002/2004 I was in quite a hacker war with Yankee feds I would catch them within my own home network which was supposed to be bigtime encrypted but all programs have a back door and the feds know them all My nephew is a professional hacker who has worked for interesting companies and now he works for the feds. he used to tell me tricks until he realized i was learning too much about the craft. Whereas I was master I my own network you think i could at least boot him out but no way When i tracked his IP into Russia i knew for certain it was a Yankee fed because the Russians ain't that dumb So i picked up the phone and called a friend to see what he could find out and as i read the IP number over the phone the dude left my network because the obviously feds listen to my phones too Trust that the CSE and the RCMP know I can tell hacker stories all day long and quite simply don't care if anyone believes me or not because i know as sure as i a sitting here this comment will be disabled but it wi turn up elsewhare 
 
 
Ray Bungay
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I just checked Safari and there are 20 right now all blocke by Safari!
 
 
JOhn D Bond 
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: According the the FAQ/ Help portal you can delete your account Ben. Just follow the link it provides you with the details.https://cbchelp.cbc.ca/hc/en-ca/articles/217732637-Can-I-delete-my-CBC-Account-

 

 



 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Methinks Higgy et al are well aware of why I would like to talk to Mr Alpaugh ASAP particularly after my receiving a very egregious letter from one of my doctors N'esy Pas?
 

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Store owner furious with Public Health's response after COVID exposure

Jeff Alpaugh says businesses expected to have detailed, thorough COVID protocols, but Public Health isn't

 

Vanessa Blanch· CBC News· Posted: Nov 18, 2020 6:00 AM AT 

 


After someone visited his store who was COVID-positive, Jeff Alpaugh, owner of Jeff Alpaugh Custom in Fredericton, says Public Health must find a way to be more transparent about public exposures. (Submitted by Jeff Alpaugh)

A Fredericton business owner says he has lost all faith in the Department of Health after a COVID-positive person visited his store earlier this month.

Jeff Alpaugh, owner of Jeff Alpaugh Custom in downtown Fredericton, said he gives more detailed guidance to customers on how to care for their new dress shirts than he received from health officials about what to do after being exposed to a deadly virus.

The information he received in an initial call from someone from Public Health was so "sketchy," Alpaugh thought he was being scammed.

This story is based on detailed notes, emails and texts kept by Alpaugh from the moment he received that first call alerting him that someone in his store had tested positive for COVID-19.

Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health, refused to respond to concerns in an interview but a communications person sent an email statement.

"Public Health has always provided the pertinent information the public needs to take measures to protect themselves," that statement reads.

Alpaugh said that for him, this was not the case.

Day 1, Tuesday, Nov. 3

The Fredericton businessman said it was about 4:30 p.m. on Tuesday when someone claiming to be from Public Health called his store and informed his manager the shop would need to close for 14 days.

Alpaugh was shocked by the lack of information that was exchanged in that first call, with the official refusing to give her last name or to leave a number.

And then she says, 'I can't give you any information about the individual who was in the store because I have to protect their privacy.'
- Jeff Alpaugh, Jeff Alpaugh Custom

"We're not going to act on … a random phone call from someone we don't have a last name for," he said.

When the woman called back, Alpaugh spoke with her, and she told him someone who had tested positive for COVID-19 had been in his store that day.

Alpaugh said she was hesitant to give her last name and offered only a general email address and telephone number. 

"And she reiterates that we need to close the store down right away, and so I'm, like, 'Well, do we need to close the store down right away or do the people who were exposed need to self -isolate for two weeks?'"

Confusion deepens

While he was speaking with the official on the phone, Alpaugh said, he was searching online for information about recent cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick to corroborate what she was saying. His confusion deepened when he saw no new cases had been reported that day, nor the day before.

"And then she says, 'I can't give you any information about the individual who was in the store because I have to protect their privacy.'"

Someone who was COVID-positive visited Alpaugh's store on Nov. 3 and came into contact with at least two staff members. (Submitted by Jeff Alpaugh)

Alpaugh's suspicions grew when he asked her to send him an official email verifying who she was and where she was calling from.

"She says, 'Well, that's not relevant,'" Alpaugh said.

"Well, it's pretty relevant to me. Like, are you calling from Ottawa? Are you in New Brunswick? Is this the Nigerian prince scam?'"

That's when she told him she had to go and might be able to send an email later that evening.

With no details from government, Alpaugh investigates

That evening, a confused Alpaugh called a local journalist as he tried to figure out whether there had been a new case of COVID-19 that the news media hadn't reported.

Then he called his lawyer trying to determine whether it was a scam, whether his staff could go home, and whether he needed to close his store.

Small businesses do get scammed all the time, so you would think a government department would consider the receiver of the message.
- Jeff Alpaugh, Jeff Alpaugh Custom

"[My staff] don't want to go home and infect their family. There's a lot of things to figure out. They're also doing a big, deep clean of the store."

Alpaugh was attending meetings and not in his store that day. Even so, with two small children at home, including an infant, and his 70-year-old mother-in-law, he was worried about being exposed indirectly. He didn't want to ignore the call if it was legitimate.

"Small businesses do get scammed all the time, so you would think a government department would consider the receiver of the message," Alpaugh said.

"Walk in my shoes and craft and deliver the message in an appropriate manner."

In such a serious situation, Alpaugh expected an official letter with a high-ranking signature, contact information and "actual instructions."

When asked what kinds of instructions are provided to businesses in the case of a COVID exposure, a spokesperson for the Department of Health said "each situation is unique" but typically they are called and a letter is sent.

"Businesses are provided as much information as possible without compromising individual privacy."

Alpaugh said he needed to know who it was who tested positive in his store, so he and his staff could determine how close they had been and for how long.

Measuring a client for a custom suit means you are very close for an extended period of time.

Throughout the evening, with no further contact from Public Health or WorkSafeNB, Alpaugh continued his own detective work.

Since the call advising him of the exposure in his store came from a Saint John number, he texted one of two people from Saint John who had been in that day and asked if he was the one.

 

Alpaugh tried to determine who the infected person was so he could let those who visited afterward know they had been exposed to COVID-19. (Submitted by Jeff Alpaugh)

"I got a phone call from Public Health today saying someone entered my store today who later tested positive for COVID. The caller is from [Saint John]. I am trying to determine if the call was legit. Did you … test positive today," he wrote.

The person texted back, "Hey I did not."

'You'll never believe it, but actually it was legit'

The evening wore on with no further phone calls or emails from Public Health.

To confuse the situation ever more, Alpaugh contacted a government employee he knew. He said that person assured him the government would "never give you a phone call like that" on COVID-19, and then suggested he contact the police about what sounded like "a personal target attack."

"Then an hour later, he calls back and goes, 'You'll never believe it, but actually it was legit.'"

By the time Alpaugh got off the phone it was about 9:45 p.m., and he finally saw an email from the woman who originally called him.

"It's from that generic account she gave me. It's not a signed PDF or official letterhead … like I'd requested. There's no detailed instructions, no information I can really use."

The three-sentence email from Saint John Public Health was sent at 7:02 p.m. and asked that Alpaugh close his store for 24 hours and do "routine cleaning" and that his two staff members who were exposed isolate for 14 days.


Dr. Kim Barker, chief medical officer of health for the Saint John region, told Alpaugh the identity of the person who visited his store while COVID-positive must be protected. (Travis Burke/CBC)

At 8:28 p.m. he received another email from the Saint John region's medical officer of health, Dr. Kim Barker.

Barker asked Alpaugh to close his store for 24 hours "to permit enhanced cleaning," and for him to "support the requirement of your two staff to remain on self-isolation for 14 days."

Barker states in that email that the privacy of the COVID-positive person needs to be protected. 

At the end of Day 1, Alpaugh still had no details from the Department of Health about who had tested positive and was therefore unable to narrow down which customers might have been exposed to COVID-19 or how close his staff were to the infected person.

Day 2, Wednesday, Nov. 4

After a sleepless night, on Wednesday, Alpaugh started contacting every client who was in the store the day before to let them know they may have been exposed to COVID-19.

"I was like, I'll give you this information because I have it, but nobody's told me what that actually means for you," he told them.

"There's no instructions. Who is doing the contact tracing? And if contact tracing is not required, why isn't it required? And when are they going to interview my staff and get their version of events? Like nobody's asked my staff any questions."

That afternoon a news release from the Health Department said one person, 20 to 29 years old, had tested positive with COVID in the Saint John region. It said the case is "related to travel outside of the Atlantic bubble" and the person is "self-isolating."


Alpaugh describes this news release from Nov. 4, which states all new cases of COVID-19 were self-isolating, as 'purposely deceptive' by the New Brunswick government. He believes there should be an alert that one of the new cases was in Fredericton, and not self-isolating, the day before. (Government of New Brunswick)

Later that day, Alpaugh said, the Saint John person who visited his store the day before, and who initially denied being infected, finally admitted he was COVID-positive.

Alpaugh was bothered by the fact the government release said the person was self-isolating, with no alert that he had been travelling around the province the day before. He described the news release as "purposely deceptive" about the whereabouts of an infectious individual.

"I don't know how many businesses he visited, but it seems unlikely he only visited me. [He] didn't go to a coffee shop? Didn't go to a McDonald's? Didn't go to a Walmart? Didn't go to a Costco?

"At this point I'm, like, 'What are the chances that mine is the only business that he came into? Probably zero.' And I haven't heard anything about anything else."

Alpaugh said he found the lack of information and transparency from Public Health "super disturbing."

Medical officer of health calls

At about 5 p.m. on Wednesday, more than 24 hours after the original phone call, Alpaugh received an email from Barker saying she had tried calling him three times but he didn't pick up the phone.

"Well, she's calling me from a no caller ID number," Alpaugh said. "I don't pick up no caller ID numbers. If you're in 2020 nobody does."

Despite his frustrations and intense stress, Alpaugh said, the conversation goes well and Barker apologizes, is empathetic, and talks to him about how the Department of Health can improve future communication. That call ends with a plan for Alpaugh and Barker to meet with a representative from WorkSafe NB the next day.

Since finding out about the COVID exposure in his store, Alpaugh said he still has not received any written or official information regarding what he and his employees should do, how he should advise his customers, nor details on contact tracing or testing.

CBC News requested an interview with Dr. Kim Barker but the Department of Health refused.

A spokesperson told CBC News that guidance for employers can be found on the government's COVID-19 website and on WorkSafeNB website's frequently-asked questions section.

Alpaugh said it's "infuriating" that government officials expect small businesses like his to have detailed COVID plans but don't seem to have a detailed plan of their own to adequately support business people who are trying to navigate a COVID exposure.

"If you want to see my small business COVID plan, it is like the most nauseating legal document ever," he said. "It is so long and so thorough. These guys send me a one-liner email from the iPhone and that's all I got. But I'm supposed to have every 'I' dotted and every 'T' crossed?"

Day 3, Thursday, Nov. 5

By day three, Alpaugh said, his stress level had only escalated. He hadn't slept more than three hours for the past two nights.

His staff were at home self-isolating while he single-handedly operated his business. Alpaugh's employees have not been interviewed by contact tracers.

"The only reason we didn't have to close for 14 days is I was able to personally run the store."


 Alpaugh estimates his business took a $10,000 hit during the busiest shopping season because he had to close for 24 hours, and his two staff had to self-isolate for 14 days. (Submitted by Jeff Alpaugh)

With the required 24-hour closure, and having to replace his two employees, Alpaugh estimated he lost $10,000 during the critical holiday season.

While Public Health officials have called every day to ensure his employees are self-isolating and asking whether they have symptoms, no further investigation has happened to Alpaugh's knowledge.

He called Barker and told her he is "losing faith in her and the government completely."

"And I just can't sleep at night. I just can't sleep."

Staff denied COVID testing

Alpaugh said that in every phone call he had with government officials, he asked that he and his staff be tested for COVID.

I think incompetent management is giving incompetent orders to incompetent people.
- Jeff Alpaugh, Jeff Alpaugh Custom

Every day, his employees have submitted the online form requesting a test and have been told it won't be available for more than a week.

"That is the most upsetting of this whole thing," he said.

Eventually his staff were both tested 10 days after the exposure, on Friday, Nov. 13. They both received negative results.

Now two weeks later, Alpaugh said, officials from the Department of Health still haven't told him anything about who tested positive in his store that day. Nor have contact tracers called him and his staff.

He worries that the lack of information he has been able to share with his customers reflects badly on him.

"I deal solely on my reputation of integrity and I can't compromise it for the government, who isn't even being honest with me. They're not even telling me the truth and letting me in on anything."

A balance between 'alarmism and transparency'

Alpaugh believes that when it comes to sharing information, the government's pendulum swung too far to the side of privacy after people found out Dr. Jean Robert Ngola was the health care professional Premier Blaine Higgs blamed for the first COVID outbreak in the province.

"I appreciate that maybe the government handled the doctor in Campbellton privacy issue poorly, but it doesn't justify overcorrecting the other way," said Alpaugh.

"A professional organization needs to find that balance between alarmism and transparency. And it's not at odds with integrity. It's just not."


Alpaugh wants the New Brunswick government to share more information with the public about where COVID-positive people have been. (Submitted by Jeff Alpaugh)

Alpaugh believes a threat to people in Fredericton has gone unreported and that has kept him awake at night.

"I think incompetent management is giving incompetent orders to incompetent people."

"I give more detailed instructions to a client when I tell them to come and pick up their dress shirt."

About the Author

Vanessa Blanch is a reporter based in Moncton. She has worked across the country for CBC for 20 years. If you have story ideas to share please email: vanessa.blanch@cbc.ca

 

    

 

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David Amos
Methinks Higgy et al are well aware of why I would like to talk to Mr Alpaugh ASAP about our common concerns particularly after my receiving a very egregious letter from one of my doctors N'esy Pas?

 

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 17:37:28 -0400
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Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks Higgy et al are well aware of why I would like to talk to Mr
Alpaugh ASAP particularly after my receiving a very egregious letter
from one of my doctors N'esy Pas?

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/11/store-owner-furious-with-public-healths.html

#cdnpoli #nbpoli

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David Amos​Ask Chucky why i was barred from the leg 2 years before he was

David Amos​ Ask Austin what he thought of the email everyone including
Chucky got on Feb 14th

David Amos​ Asdk Austin what he thinks of my lawsuit against the Crown

David Amos​ Chucky did attend one of the hearings because he and
Vickers are mentioned in the lawsuit

David Amos ​I take false arrest very personally



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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 15:59:18 -0400
Subject: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
To: Rhonda.Brown@globalnews.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Gerald.Butts"
< Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "geoff.regan"<geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca>,
"Katie.Telford"<Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Ian.Shugart"
< Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca>, "ian.fahie"<ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"andrew.scheer"<andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, david.akin@globalnews.ca

Need I say that I am tired of being called a perennial candidate on TV?


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/05/before-writs-were-dropped-in-bc-and-ns.html


Monday, 22 May 2017

Before writs were dropped in BC and NS The VERY UNETHICAL "Journalist"
David Akin scores a new job as CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT Global
News???
Methinks that by now mindless David Akin would have figured out that
just like one of my favourite artists Gordy Lightfoot I am still alive
and kicking. However if you scroll to the bottom of this blog you will
see byway of his Tweets Davey Boy continues to ignore my emails even
after I talk to his lawyer and send them both a Hell of an email.  Go
figure why I am not surprised. EH Commissioner Bobby Paulson of the
RCMP?

Do tell does the CBC or the CRTC or CTV or Roger TV or even CPAC or
anyone else recall back in 2015 when I stress tested the ethics of
David Boy Akin and his gal pal Kady Baby O'Malley about voting etc
during and after the election of the 42nd Parliament? I did that years
after I talked to Akin the first in in 2004 when he worked for CTV and
about 2 years or so after Kady had blocked me within Twitter when she
and her snobby buddies such as Jesse Brown, Jian Ghomeshi, Greg Weston
and Evan Solomon used to work for CBC too.

https://globalnews.ca/author/rhonda-brown/

Rhonda Brown
Supervising Producer
902 481 4440

Rhonda is a journalist with more than 24 years experience in the
television industry.

As Supervising Producer, she works with news staff in Halifax and New
Brunswick in the gathering the day’s stories and getting them to air
on Global News at 6 pm.

Born in Newfoundland and raised in Ottawa, she’s lived in Halifax for
more than 22 years.

She’s held a variety of roles with both Global News and CBC over her
career, with a brief foray into public relations.

A perennial candidate is a political candidate who frequently runs for
an elected office and rarely, if ever, wins. The term is the opposite
of an incumbent politician who repeatedly defends their seats
successfully.

Perennial candidates can vary widely in nature. Some are independents
who lack the support of the major political parties in an area or are
members of alternative parties (such as third parties in the United
States). Others may be mainstream candidates who can consistently win
a party's nomination, but because their district is gerrymandered or a
natural safe seat for another party, the candidate likewise never gets
elected (thus these types are often paper candidates). Still others
may typically run in primary elections for a party's nomination and
lose repeatedly. Numerous perennial candidates, although not all, run
with the full knowledge of their inability to win elections and
instead use their candidacy for satire, to advance non-mainstream
political platforms, or to take advantage of benefits afforded
political candidates (such as campaign financing, name recognition,
and television advertising benefits).





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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:17:08 -0400
Subject: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
To: "jordan.gill"<jordan.gill@cbc.ca>, info@vitalitenb.ca,
info@chautva.com, Annie.Levasseur@chautva.com,
nouvelle@acadienouvelle.com, darsenault@allnovascotia.com,
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dgnews@brunswicknews.com, restigouche@acadienouvelle.com, news
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< sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca>, Newsroom
< Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, news <news@kingscorecord.com>,
"bruce.northrup"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "Michael.Duheme"
< Michael.Duheme@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Qualite.Quality@vitalitenb.ca,
"Serge.Cormier"<Serge.Cormier@parl.gc.ca>, "robert.gauvin"
< robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, media@horizonnb.ca, Kevhache@nb.sympatico.ca

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ceo-stands-behind-er-1.5466866

Vitalité CEO stands behind postponed emergency room proposals


Proposals 'were very good, were very sound, were evidence based,' said
Gilles Lanteigne

Jordan Gill · CBC News · Posted: Feb 18, 2020 10:33 AM AT

28 Comments

David Amos
Methinks Gilles Lanteigne and I should finally have a long talk ASAP N'esy Pas?



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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 15:33:02 -0400
Subject: Fwd: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE???
To: perthelkslodge362@gmail.com, "Andrew.Harvey"
< andrew.harvey@gnb.ca>, "bruce.fitch"<bruce.fitch@gnb.ca>,
"bruce.northrup"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>, "Macfarlane, Bruce (DH/MS)"
< Bruce.Macfarlane@gnb.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "benoit.bourque"
< benoit.bourque@gnb.ca>, "Brian.kenny"<brian.kenny@gnb.ca>

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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 22:41:47 -0400
Subject: Re: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE???
To: "blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, Gerry.Lowe@gnb.ca,
"Jennifer.duggan"<Jennifer.duggan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Sandra.lofaro"
< Sandra.lofaro@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>,
"Roger.Brown"<Roger.Brown@fredericton.ca>,
bachfoundation@horizonnb.ca, chalmers.foundation@horizonnb.ca,
MelanieDawn.Cameron@horizonnb.ca, friends@horizonnb.ca,
bpendrel@xplornet.com, joyvantassel@hotmail.com,
mrhfoundation@horizonnb.ca, smhfoundation@horizonnb.ca,
1945smha@gmail.com, SJRH.Foundation@horizonnb.ca,
SCCRFoundation@horizonnb.ca, urvhfoundation@horizonnb.ca
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "rob.moore"
< rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>, robmoorefundy <robmoorefundy@gmail.com>,
votejohnw <votejohnw@gmail.com>

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organizations provide funding and support for much needed equipment,
programs and projects.  This support continues to allow Horizon Health
Network to provide the best possible patient care. Our volunteers are
equally important as they provide much needed emotional support and
assist with our patient care by reading, writing, cooking, delivering
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Whichever way you choose to give, your gift is valued and appreciated.

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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:30:16 -0500
Subject: Re: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE??? (Out of Office )
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

I am out of the office until Tuesday, February 18 and have
intermittent access to Email.  For any urgencies, please contact
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 20:29:13 -0400
Subject: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
want the RCMP to arrest me AGAIN TRUE or FALSE???
To: "blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, dale.morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
"Mark.Blakely"<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Roger.Brown"
< Roger.Brown@fredericton.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
< martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki"
< Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "barbara.massey"
< barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "barb.whitenect"
< barb.whitenect@gnb.ca>
Cc: "Robert. Jones"<Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, David Amos
< motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "Holland, Mike (LEG)"
< mike.holland@gnb.ca>, lclark@nbpower.com,
colleen.dentremont@atlanticaenergy.org, "Bill.Morneau"
< Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, premier <premier@ontario.ca>, Office of the
Premier <scott.moe@gov.sk.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, wharrison
< wharrison@nbpower.com>, gthomas <gthomas@nbpower.com>,
Andrea.AndersonMason@gnb.ca, jesse <jesse@viafoura.com>, news
< news@dailygleaner.com>, nben@nben.ca, premier <premier@gnb.ca>,
"dominic.leblanc.c1"<dominic.leblanc.c1@parl.gc.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"
< Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "jeff.carr"<jeff.carr@gnb.ca>,
oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre <andre@jafaust.com>,
"Ginette.PetitpasTaylor"<Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca>,
"Sherry.Wilson"<Sherry.Wilson@gnb.ca>, "Ross.Wetmore"
< Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, megan.mitton@gnb.ca, "David.Coon"
< David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Arseneau, Kevin (LEG)"
< Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>,
Nathalie Sturgeon <sturgeon.nathalie@brunswicknews.com>, "mary.wilson"
< mary.wilson@gnb.ca>, "steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
"nick.brown"<nick.brown@gnb.ca>, "robert.mckee"
< robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "Kevin.Vickers"<Kevin.Vickers@gnb.ca>,
"Tim.RICHARDSON"<Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca>, "Trevor.Holder"
< Trevor.Holder@gnb.ca>, "rick.desaulniers"<rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca>,
"michelle.conroy"<michelle.conroy@gnb.ca>, "Mike.Comeau"
< Mike.Comeau@gnb.ca>, "carl. davies"<carl.davies@gnb.ca>,
"carl.urquhart"<carl.urquhart@gnb.ca>, "Cathy.Rogers"
< Cathy.Rogers@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin"<robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>,
"Roger.L.Melanson"<roger.l.melanson@gnb.ca>, "ron.tremblay2"
< ron.tremblay2@gmail.com>, philippe@dunsky.com,
Steven_Reid3@carleton.ca, "darrow.macintyre"
< darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "Chuck.Thompson"<Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca>,
"sylvie.gadoury"<sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca>

Methinks it must be because of my recent comments in CBC about your
nonsense about emergency Rooms etc N’esy Pas???

Here is just a few that are recorded within my blog etc


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/02/deputy-premier-must-decide-whether-to.html


Wednesday, 12 February 2020

Deputy premier must decide whether to fall in line on health-care
reforms, Higgs says



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-doctor-sackville-hospital-emergency-room-closure-1.5462252


Doctor shortage forces overnight closure at Sackville ER

More er closures are possible before hours are permanently reduced on March 11

CBC News · Posted: Feb 13, 2020 11:32 AM AT



57 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.


David Amos
Content disabled
Go Figure These are obviously not my Tweets but I did run against the lady


Chisholm Pothier
@chisholmp
·
Feb 10
The plan hasn’t even been announced yet and it’s already being
condemned. We know one thing for sure - we cannot keep delivering
Health the way we have. It isn’t sustainable with an aging population
and needs have changed with demographic change anyway. #nbpoli /1

Quote Tweet
Alaina Lockhart
@AlainaLockhart
· Feb 9
Premier @BlaineHiggs you can’t grow NB by reducing services in rural
areas. NB needs strong rural comms to thrive. The @townofsussex is key
to the region. You need to start thinking about the people impacted in
your quest to improve the bottom line.
https://twitter.com/nsteinbach_rc/


David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Chisholm Pothier no longer speaks for the
government Correct?









David Amos
Need I say I got a few calls after supper last night and the people
who called could tell I was pretty cranky about something? Trust that
what I heard on CBC this morning did not help my mood any..






David Amos
Methinks the real problem is that Higgy and Flemming can't get enough
bilingual folks who want to work within our Health Care System N'esy
Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks everybody knows since the time of
Trudeau The Elder New Brunswick has been a great place to grow up and
get an education but to find work most of our young ones must head
west somewhere on the far side of Quebec. If the truth hurts so be it
N'esy Pas?







David Amos
On CBC this morning I heard our mindless Health Minister direct folks
to the emergency room in another province. Methinks we have not heard
that last about that N'esy Pas??







Jim Cyr
The people of New Brunswick are some of the silliest people in the
world. It’s been hilarious to see almost all of them completely turn
off their brains and freak out over Higgs’ emergency rooms plan. The
people will now vote out the PCs, of course......just as their silly
media masters tell them to do. And so the NB medical/fiscal/poverty
situation will just get worse and worse and worse than it already is..
You can’t make this kind of stuff up, folks!! Amazing to see.
Mind-numbingly predictable and monotonous. It’s like kubuki theater at
this point.. BAD kubuki theater.....lol

David Amos
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks you may be cluing in as to why I call this
a circus If you can't find fun in the madness then you will go crazy
like they claim I am. Yea I'm crazy alright. Some say I'm crazy like a
fox others say I am just another narcissistic fool Hard telling not
knowing for sure but one thing is for certain I am having fun laughing
at all the people who laughed at me N'esy Pas?

However I can be as crazy as i want to be Higgy should ask the shinks
in the loonie bin of the DECH what they did with the wiretap tape of
the mob that I gave them in 2008 that the RCMP refuse to investigate.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Jim Cyr:
Silly? It's just plain "goofy". And once the CONServatives are gone,
having been exchanged for the Liberals, the process will repeat
itself, over and over.
Not one among us able to figure out the only end result is our pocket
remain empty.









Michael Durant
We need to begin serious talks with Doctors Without Boarders

David Amos
Reply to @Michael durant: Try again That one went over like a lead balloon

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Michael durant: borders








Yves Savoie
Get your popcorn ready!!! The circus has begun....

David Amos
Reply to @Yves Savoie: Wanna trade some of your popcorn for peanuts?

Methinks Trump and everybody knows I have been enjoying the circuses
on both sides of the 49th for many years from the peanut galley.
Trump's minions know that just before July 4th, 2002 within a
statement of Claim against an incredible number of Yankee lawyers I
promised that I would run in the next Election in Canada. I have
remained true to my word and have run 7 times thus far. I joined the
clowns in the centre ring no only to to add my two bits worth and but
to witness the high diving acts up close and personal. Trust that
Harper and Higgy et al know that i dearly love the splash just my kids
and I did at Sea World a long long time ago N'esy Pas?

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @David Amos: Kudos to that, and if you were in my riding you
would get my vote, fed or prov.

Lou Bell
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: That would give him 14 votes

Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: " Methinks trumps and everybody knows I have
been enjoy.. .... ...... " !!! You really think trump knows who you
are ?? Seriously ???????????

David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you want his lawyers cell number?

David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Better yet do you want me to give them yours so
you can say hey to your Yankee heroes who locked me up in 2004?

David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Thanks for the vote of confidence









Ben Haroldson
The Doctors are just helping to move things along. No sense waffling
if things are that dire.

David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: So you say







Terry Tibbs
What do you *think*? Coincidence, or not?

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks we all know the wicked game by now N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BTW I was born in the Sackville Hospital in 1952
and it saved my butt 3 years later when I went into a coma for a
month. Methinks for that reason alone I should raise hell to defend
it. Methinks it should be rather obvious that I quite simply don't
care what my cousin Megan Mitton and all her Green Party pals say or
do about it N'esy Pas?

Holly Mossing
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Not coincidence: ERs and Labour and Delivery
units have been randomly closing for years due to staffing issues.
That’s part of the problem, and this move will be part of the
solution. Government being responsible by listening to the health
authorities.










SarahRose Werner
How is the pool of doctors who provide nighttime ER coverage supplied?
Are these doctors who also work day jobs? Does staffing the ER
overnight make doctors less accessible to patients who seek service
during the day?

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Overnight Doctors come from the family
practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
night shift starts. After midnight, the ER is emergencies only, so you
will be triaged by a nurse, then depending on the triage, you may or
may not see a doctor.

This Friday, from how it seems, there will be no doctor at all; I'm
not sure if a tirage nurse will assess people however.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Apparently not, because the ER will be
closed entirely. Which makes sense because triage is a sorting
procedure, not a treatment procedure. The word "triage" comes from the
process of sorting battlefield patients into three levels: those will
recover even without treatment, those who will even if treated and
those for whom treatment will make a difference. If there's no one
available to provide treatment, there's no point doing triage.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: "Overnight Doctors come from the family
practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
night shift starts." - I'm not surprised that doctors who've already
worked during the day are averse to taking overnight shifts as well.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Why would they be "adverse"? If the "stories" told to us are true,
after supper the family practice doctor heads out to the ER for 7pm,
taking paperwork, or reading material, to catch up on.
Right around maybe 10, or 11pm they pull up a bed and have a snooze,
because there "might" be only 5 patients overnight, (this is "the
claim") maybe only one needing his/her attention, so the nurse can
wake him/her up as required. 7am the shift ends, doctor leaves fully
rested,12 hours pay richer.
In some cases, if the doctor lives real close, they go home, coming in
only if needed.

Holly Mossing
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yes, it does, which is part of the
problem. These are great shifts for doctors to pick up (quiet and pay
very well), but don’t help the health of local people overall because
the doc may see 5 urgent patients overnight but not be able to work at
see *25* the next day. That’s a big capacity issue.

David Amos
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Its a pity that nobody in Sackville would
listen to me this week

David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: However I will disclose that the Office of the
CEO of one of our Health Care systems called me a few days before
Flemming's big announcement in order to reach an understanding as to
why I am going to file a lawsuitin order to get my Medicare Card and
other things. I have heard nothing but crickets since. Methinks they
think I am bluffing Others know I am not N'esy Pas?











Ian Scott
It would help if the management would outline what it takes to have an
ER open 24/7. I do not think a lot of the public has a clue as to what
it means to open an ER to all comers and the staff then needed to
cover all reasonable issues. You cannot confuse the public and
ambulances etc where to go each night if staffing gets short. It makes
it worse. If you staff with general practice then they must have
extended training in ER issues. Otherwise the next thing is the
complaint that things were not done . Then comes the standard
equipment needed for stroke trauma etc, like CT scanners etc. Even
appendectomy becomes an issue without ultrasound or CT. Its really a
standard of practice and it requires a service level that is very
difficult to reach in small centers. Otherwise you just end up
shipping people out again and delaying diagnostics and the right
treatment, some of which are time related. Would you want surgery for
something that is not needed? Or have blood thinners given when you
actually have a brain bleed etc.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: One thing I've been reading in comments on
stories on this issue is that people mention being "stabilized" in a
smaller centre before being shipped out to a larger one. Not being a
medical professional, I don't know what resources and skills are
required to "stabilize" patients. Is this something that could be
achieved in some other way, for example, by expanded and improved
paramedic service?

Ian Scott
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: That is the care in bigger centers, well
trained paramedics to stabilize at site and transport. Still most
stroke issues need CT before treatment. Heart issues may be
"stabilized" with drugs etc but transfer really is key for assessment
. Trauma , (major) , needs a trauma center. I am not sure how many
paramedics can intubate in the field at this point in NB but even an
acute asthma or allergic issue might need it. Its what has been
suggested. The numbers are small in many of these towns.Even having
those staff may prove difficult down the road. Helicopter Air
ambulance is another issue, complex and expensive but out there.
Freddy is a trauma center for a certain level , but even it only has a
snowfield for landing.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Okay, so if someone has a heart attack, acute
allergic attack, stroke, etc. in Sussex in the middle of the night and
that person needs some sort of immediate treatment to tide them over
until they get to the Saint John Regional, how is that provided? To
me, that's the crux of the issue here. I agree that 24/7 ER service in
all locations is not the answer. What are other possible answers?

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: In that situation, the patient will be
sent on to Saint John/Moncton (not sure which hospital in regards to
Sussex) regardless if they are stable or not.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Are there increased to the patient if
they're sent on without stabilization? What are those? What will be
done to ameliorate those risks?

Holly Mossing
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: There is a great study on this that showed
that cardiac patients who were “stabilized” at a small center then
transferred had worse outcomes and a higher death rate than patients
who bypassed their local ER and were brought directly to where they
could receive specialized care, for example. (
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28615177/ ). Advanced care
paramedics need to be normalized in New Brunswick and supported to
make health care as safe as possible. I’ve never voted Conservative
but in this case Higgs’ government is doing absolutely the responsible
thing. We need to make sure they follow through with increased daytime
services.

David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you must have read some of my
comments N'esy Pas?

David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Hmmmm










Donald Smith
There has to be a reason, or reasons why NB Cannot attract them ???????

Mack Leigh
Reply to @Donald Smith: There definitely is however no one is allowed
to talk about the " Elephant " in the room.

Ian Scott
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Major centers are not really having that issue
except for OR constraints for time for some specialists and no beds
because of acute care bed blockers. Bathurst has excellent docs as
does Edmonston and they are better at language issues than the south.
Freddy and SJ and the Moncton centers also attract excellent staff.
Its in between that is the issue , and medicine has changed , as have
expectations and the standard of care. An ER is just that , all
comers, not a clinic. One has to meet rigid standards of care. And
those are hard to meet in 4k population or less towns and villages.
Aging issues are one of the biggest issues and its being met poorly.
Billing numbers are a thing of the past so not in the question. There
could certainly be some concern I suppose of young docs worried about
potential language issues but low.

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @Ian Scott: What people seem to forget is that Sackville,
while a population of 5000 including Mt. Allison students, also
services Dorchester, Memramcook, Port Elgin, Murry Corner as well as
we get patients from the Cape like Cocagne, Cap Pele, Shediac. We've
had people from Moncton and surrounding area come to our hospital in
increasing numbers over the past two years, even as far as Anagance,
AND we get people from NS as well like River Hebert and Amherst. It
isn't just NB, but NS we serve too.

So no, we don't have a 4K or less patient possibility, we have much
more than that.

SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Then maybe NS would like to contribute
some money to pay for overnight service at the ER.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Don't you believe for a moment they don't.
Show an out of province medicare card at a NB hospital and the eyes
light up like a one armed bandit hitting a jackpot.

David Amos
Reply to @Donald Smith: Everybody knows the reasons

David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: I do








Brian Robertson
This is just the logical next step in the deterioration of healthcare
under the thumb of a government administered monopoly.
When you have no money and no Doctors and costs are still increasing
because all your workers are members of public service unions that can
hold the public hostage; what else can happen?
The viability of single payer healthcare is based on the metering of
services in order to control costs.
Public needs and individual abilities to pay simply do not factor into
the equation.

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Brian Robertson:
Hold the phone, Just STOP, and *think* for a moment, you have been
misdirected just like you are supposed to be.
EVERY other province, or territory, has "evil" union belonging health
professionals, this is not a NB only "thing".
We are supposed to be short of 100, maybe 200, health professionals
needed per capita (a different number pops out whenever those in
charge are asked).
We know the pay and benefits in NB are "short" hence the shortage of
health professionals.
Yet the cost of healthcare is higher (per capita) than every other
province, or territory.
So, either EVERYONE in NB is constantly sick, or the extra cost is
somewhere else other than with the health professionals.
I respectfully *think* you should be looking elsewhere.

Brian Robertson
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
All Provincial healthcare systems are following the same pattern
decline; except possibly Quebec who enjoys a lucrative infusion of
Federal transfer payments annually. New Brunswick just seems to be
ahead of the curve in terms of declining services and wait times.
There is more than enough blame to go around for this spiral trip
around the drain. Yes, and that includes your healthcare
professionals.

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks he knows you are correct Quebec is a
UNILINGUAL Province Hence its costs are less N'esy Pas?





John Pokiok
There you have it no Doctor wants to live in rural setting it's a hard
core fact.

Ian Scott
Reply to @John Pokiok: Thats not really true. Being an ER doc is a
different fish from a GP office setting. It requires an extension of
training.If you open an ER then you have every issue from Intubation
to trauma to poisoning, heart attack stroke, delivery etc. ER trained
docs are a separate entity . You are asking a GP to be everything and
have little backup and extended hours and then have a practice in the
community. It takes a serious block of staff to do this around the
clock. And to have surgical backups for obstetrics etc.And to then
live in communities with 4K people is not easy.

David Amos
Reply to @John Pokiok: Many do when they retire

Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @John Pokiok: And yet we just had *2* doctors from US
background move to Sackville to practice. It's not a matter of no
doctors wanting to move to rural areas.

David Amos
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Maybe they are willing to cover the midnight shift


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> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Mr. Amos,
> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
> of Nova Scotia.  Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS.  Please note that we will
> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
>
> Department of Justice
>
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Good Day Sir
>>
>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>
>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>
>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>> suggested that you study closely.
>>
>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>
>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>
>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>
>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>
>> April 3rd, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>
>>
>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>
>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>
>>
>> The only hearing thus far
>>
>> May 24th, 2017
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>
>>
>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>
>> Date: 20151223
>>
>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>
>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>
>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>>
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>
>> Plaintiff
>>
>> and
>>
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>
>> Defendant
>>
>> ORDER
>>
>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>> December 14, 2015)
>>
>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>> in its entirety.
>>
>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
>> he stated:
>>
>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>
>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>> Police.
>>
>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>
>>
>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
>> is no order as to costs.
>>
>> “B. Richard Bell”
>> Judge
>>
>>
>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>
>>   I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>
>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>> most
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>> dudes are way past too late
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>
>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>
>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Merci ,
>>
>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>>
>>
>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>
>> January 13, 2015
>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>
>> December 8, 2014
>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>
>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>
>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>
>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>> campaign of 2006.
>>
>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>
>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>
>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>
>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>
>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>
>> Subject:
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>
>> January 30, 2007
>>
>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>
>> Mr. David Amos
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>
>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>
>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>> Minister of Health
>>
>> CM/cb
>>
>>
>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>
>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>
>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>
>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>
>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>
>>   Sincerely,
>>
>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>> Traffic Services NCO
>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>> fax: 506-444-5224
>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>
>
>
> On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
>> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>>
>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz
>> ilian.html
>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>>
>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>>
>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>> cards?
>>>
>>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly200
>>> 6
>>>
>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>>
>>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>>
>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>> United States Senate
>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>
>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>> raised in the attached letter.
>>>
>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>> tapes.
>>>
>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>
>>> Very truly yours,
>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>
>>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html
>
>
> Sunday, 19 November 2017
> Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
> It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
> The Supreme Court
>
> https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do
>
>
> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>
> Amos v. Canada
> Court (s) Database
>
> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
> Date
>
> 2017-10-30
> Neutral citation
>
> 2017 FCA 213
> File numbers
>
> A-48-16
> Date: 20171030
>
> Docket: A-48-16
> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
> CORAM:
>
> WEBB J.A.
> NEAR J.A.
> GLEASON J.A.
>
>
> BETWEEN:
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> Respondent on the cross-appeal
> (and formally Appellant)
> and
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> Appellant on the cross-appeal
> (and formerly Respondent)
> Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
> Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
>
> THE COURT
>
>
>
> Date: 20171030
>
> Docket: A-48-16
> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
> CORAM:
>
> WEBB J.A.
> NEAR J.A.
> GLEASON J.A.
>
>
> BETWEEN:
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> Respondent on the cross-appeal
> (and formally Appellant)
> and
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> Appellant on the cross-appeal
> (and formerly Respondent)
> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
>
> I.                    Introduction
>
> [1]               On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
> filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
> against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
> in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
> Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
> properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
> that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
> Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
> (Claim at para. 96).
>
> [2]               On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
> motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
> Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
> amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
> disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
> and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
> Prothontary’s Order).
>
>
> [3]               On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
> Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
> Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
> Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
> for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
> 2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
>
>
> [4]               Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
> Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
> Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
> As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
> cross-appeal.
>
>
> II.                 Preliminary Matter
>
> [5]               Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
> relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
> 6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
> the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
> This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
> had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
> Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
> several judges but did not name those judges.
>
> [6]               Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
> identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
> had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
> with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
> Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
> the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
> subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
> c. F-7:
>
>
> 5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
> office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
> Appeal.
> […]
>
> 5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
> d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
> les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
> […]
> 5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
> that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.
>
> 5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
> Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
> juges de la Cour fédérale.
>
>
> [7]               However, these subsections only provide that the
> judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
> versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
> Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
> section.
> [8]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide that:
> 3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
> — Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
> Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
> continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
> for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
> a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>
> 3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
> fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
> français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
> à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
> Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
> continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
> matière civile et pénale.
> 4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
> — Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
> English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
> additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
> the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
> court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>
> 4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
> première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
> Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
> maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
> d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
> canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
> compétence en matière civile et pénale.
>
>
> [9]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
> two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
> (section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
> Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
> need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
> Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
> to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
> file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
> decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
> that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
> appeal book.
>
>
> [10]           Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
> March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
> Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
> conflict in any matter related to him.
>
>
> [11]           On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
> before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
> conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
> Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
> Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
> Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
> Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
> cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
> Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
> will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
> before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
> relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.
>
>
> [12]           During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
> the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
> submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
> conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
> afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
> that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
> view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
> documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
> documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
> judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
> copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
> such judge had a conflict.
>
>
> [13]           The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
> that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
> 2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
> that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
> had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
> therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
> of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
> personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
> Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
> was a member of such firm.
>
>
> [14]           During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
> appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
> focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
> Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
> the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
> particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
> lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
> after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
> Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
>
>
> [15]           The documents that he submitted in relation to the
> alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
> Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
> Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
> practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
> Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
> who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
> affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
> that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
> letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
> Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
> Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
> “John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
> Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
> possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
> [16]           Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
> was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
> Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
> 259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
> judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
> apprehension of bias:
> 60        In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
> criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
> Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
> Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
> reasonable apprehension of bias:
> … the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
> reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
> question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
> of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
> viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
> the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
> than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
> unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
>
> [17]           The issue to be determined is whether an informed
> person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
> thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
> give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
> previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
> administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
> rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
> Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
> also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
> (4th) 193).
>
> [18]           The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
> Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
> Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
> particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
> case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
> involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
> Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
> judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
> lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
> determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
> rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
> 27        Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
> finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
> which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
> as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
>
>
> 28        The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
> asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
> the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
> taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
> defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
> judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
> Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
> Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
> there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
> and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
>
>
> 29        It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
> inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
> different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
> judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
> of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
> conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
> involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
> in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
> for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
> interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
> statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
> information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
> opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
> His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
> had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
> unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.
>
>
> 30        That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
> of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
> disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
> two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
> recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
> that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
> that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
> time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
>              To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
> the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
> involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
> the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
> circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
> or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
> 31        There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
> Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
> trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
> been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
> his former firm for a considerable period of time.
>
>
> 32        In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
> realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
> and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
> of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
> in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
> In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
> trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
> his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
> decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
> either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
> client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
> off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
> client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
> earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
> events from over a decade ago.
> (emphasis added)
>
> [19]           Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
> involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
> Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
> clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
> alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
> Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
> Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
> Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
> had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
> was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
> involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
> with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
> sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
> Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
> also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
> Webb hearing this appeal.
>
> [20]           Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
> (2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
> reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
> the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
> with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
>
> [21]           In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
> F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
> reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
> lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
> was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
> Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
> Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.
>
> [22]           Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
> stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
> of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
> He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
> entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
> and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
> to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
> police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
> enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
> conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
>
> [23]           As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
> apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
> to recuse himself.
>
> [24]           Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
> experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
> the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
> confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
> Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
>
> [25]           Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
> Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
> that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
> a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
> both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
> Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
> begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
> you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
> was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
> Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
> for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
> not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
>
>
> III.               Issue
>
> [26]           The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
> Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
> in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
> Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
> legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
>
> IV.              Analysis
>
> A.                 Standard of Review
>
> [27]           Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
> Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
> be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
> made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
> Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
> 402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
> this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
> articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
> [Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
> Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
> prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
> case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
> the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
> error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
> law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
> a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
> if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
> determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
> (Hospira at paras. 82-83).
>
> [28]           In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
> assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
> must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
> erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
> interfere.
>
>
> B.                 Did the Judge err in interfering with the
> Prothonotary’s Order?
>
> [29]           The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
> paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
> Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
>
> 17.       Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
> addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
> of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
> in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
> the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
> the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
> or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
> does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
> (…)
>
>
> 21.       The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
> provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
> the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
> Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
> determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
> A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
> only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
> best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
> suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
> [footnotes omitted].
>
>
> [30]           The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
> on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
> that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
> liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
> who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
> included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
> the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
> paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
> identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
> Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
> para. 27).
>
>
> [31]           The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
> cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
> identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
> 2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
>
>
> [13]      As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
> 69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
> determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
> element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
>
> a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
> conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
>
> b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
> conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and
>
> c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
> officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
> public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
> Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
> (Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
>
> [32]           The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
> material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
> public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
> Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
> “political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
>
> [33]           This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
> in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
> D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
>
> …When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
> assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
> negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
> “The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
> upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
> conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
> of process…
>
> To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
> requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
> out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
> officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
> office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
> mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
> allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
> a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
> (at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
>
> [34]           Applying the Housen standard of review to the
> Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
> absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
>
> [35]           The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
> disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
> basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
> ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
> the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
> engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
> conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
> faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
> the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
> these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
> non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
> Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
> the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
> barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
> supporting a cause of action.
>
> [36]           In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
> allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
> reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
> Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
> Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
> find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
> The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
> amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
>
> V.                 Conclusion
> [37]           For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
> cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
> dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
> November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
> without leave to amend.
> "Wyman W. Webb"
> J.A.
> "David G. Near"
> J.A.
> "Mary J.L. Gleason"
> J.A.
>
>
>
> FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
> NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
>
> A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
> JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
> DOCKET:
>
> A-48-16
>
>
>
> STYLE OF CAUSE:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
>
>
> PLACE OF HEARING:
>
> Fredericton,
> New Brunswick
>
> DATE OF HEARING:
>
> May 24, 2017
>
> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
>
> WEBB J.A.
> NEAR J.A.
> GLEASON J.A.
>
> DATED:
>
> October 30, 2017
>
> APPEARANCES:
> David Raymond Amos
>
>
> For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
> (on his own behalf)
>
> Jan Jensen
>
>
> For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>
> SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
> Nathalie G. Drouin
> Deputy Attorney General of Canada
>
> For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
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Maugerville family wants ancestors' headstones back after finding them in an unlikely place

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Methinks Mr Dutcher should pick up the phone and call Tammy Scott-Wallace Higgy's latest Minister of Tourism, Heritage and Culture and tell her I said Hey N'esy Pas?
 
 

 

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Maugerville family wants ancestors' headstones back after finding them in an unlikely place

Lloyd Dutcher has spent years trying to have headstones returned to his family's cemetery

 

Shane Fowler· CBC News· Posted: Nov 19, 2020 8:00 AM AT

 


Members of the Dutcher family were surprised when they went to start restoration work on the family's 19th century graveyard and discovered the headstones were gone. (Submitted by Lloyd Dutcher)

As a child, Lloyd Dutcher spent his time exploring the fields and forests of Maugerville that included the small cemetery where his ancestors were buried.

The cemetery is considerably overgrown now. But buried under the unkempt brush are the sprawling 200-year-old branches of the Dutcher family tree.

"Elijah Miles was buried there in 1802," said Dutcher,  going through a mental list of family interred there. "My grandfather, Nathan Day, he was a sheriff in Sunbury County."

He's able to pinpoint John Dutcher as the first ancestor in the area bearing his last name, buried in the family cemetery after drowning in the St. John River in 1805.

The farm property the cemetery sits on has changed hands a few times in the decades since Dutcher played there as a child and the plot has fallen into disrepair. Dutcher now lives about 10 kilometres away.

 

 Lloyd Dutcher says his plans to restore a family graveyard in Maugerville hit a snag when he realized someone took all the gravestones. 2:35

Three years ago, Dutcher and his family vowed to restore it back to a proper Loyalist cemetery. They planned to install fencing, make pathways and cut back the decades of creeping brush. 

But when they started to comb through the underbrush to pinpoint the exact location of each gravesite, they couldn't find them. All of the headstones were gone. .

"There's nothing left here," said Dutcher. 

Dutcher says he's been hoping to have his family's headstones to mark where his ancestors are actually buried in Maugerville. (Shane Fowler/CBC News)

He asked around the community to see if anyone knew what had happened to the gravestones inscribed with his family's surnames of Dutcher, Miles, and Day. 

It turns out someone did. 

Lloyd Dutcher stands in the plot of land where his great-grandparents and other ansectors are buried. He says he and his family have long planned to restore the cemetery, but getting the headstones back is a major roadblock. (Shane Fowler/CBC News)

Sandra Day, a lifelong resident of Maugerville, is related to Lloyd Dutcher. 

"His mother and my mother were first cousins, I don't know what you'd want to call that," laughs Day.

But she does know that their common ancestors are buried in that cemetery. She also remembers the headstones displaying her family name when she was a child.

She said years ago another distant relative took the gravestones out of the cemetery.

"From what I was told they sat in a barn for a long while," said Day.

"They thought they were maybe doing a good thing in preserving them," said Dutcher.

That was 15 to 20 years ago.

Dutcher has since tracked the five missing headstones to an unlikely spot, 40 kilometres away — on display at the Kings Landing Historical Settlement. 

Lloyd Dutcher was able to locate his family's missing headstones, 40 kilometres away near a church at the Kings Landing Historical Settlement. Dutcher took this photo earlier this fall. (Submitted by Lloyd Dutcher)

Day and Dutcher don't know how they got there for certain, but they believe it was this well-intentioned relative who may have gifted the headstones to a Kings Landing employee scouting for historical artifacts. 

"He was getting ready to move," Dutcher said, "A curator was down looking at old furniture and stuff and said, 'What about those headstones?' and he said 'Take them if you want.' So that's how they got up there." 

"They should never have been taken," said Day. "And they shouldn't be in Kings Landing, they should be in Maugerville."

Kings Landing is a recreated historical village that treats tourists to what life was like for settlers in New Brunswick 200 years ago. 

Dutcher said he doubts those stones mark real grave sites in Kings Landing. But he said, if they do,  they're certainly not his relatives.

He said he's spent three years trying to get them back. 

What goes to Kings Landing...

Dutcher claims he has repeatedly asked staff to return the gravestones.

"The answer I got was "Anything that goes to Kings Landing stays at Kings Landing, and never leaves,'" said Dutcher.

 

The sawmill at Kings Landing Historical Settlement. (Jordan Gill/CBC)

But with a new head at the tourist attraction, Dutcher may have found some hope. 

"I can't speak to anything that happened before Jan. 27, 2020," said Mary Baruth, the historical settlement's new chief executive officer. 

Baruth said she only became aware of Dutcher's request recently, when he called Kings Landing two weeks ago trying to get the stones back.  

She said if Dutcher's claims are true, the headstones could be returned. 

"I told him I would have our collections manager look at it," said Baruth. "She's looking at it and she's found the donation form and we're just trying to find the trail back." 

She said they're trying to determine if the stones are replicas or replacements for the original headstones. 

"If these belong in the cemetery, and they are not replacement ones, and that we gained them in a way that was not above board, certainly, we would want to repatriate them," said Baruth. 

Lloyd Dutcher says five gravestones belong in his family's cemetery, marking his ancestors graves, instead of being on display at Kings Landing. (Submitted by Lloyd Dutcher)

Family first

Generally, it's often family that are considered to be the legal owners of the stones, according to The Association of New Brunswick Cemeteries.

"The person who purchases it, owns it," said Valerie Traer, the president of the association.

That ownership responsibility usually falls to surviving family members who are often responsible for upkeep and maintenance of the stones.

"These do get passed on from generation to generation," said Traer.

But Traer said her association only represents community or privately owned cemeteries, and that cases involving family cemeteries can become tricky. She said New Brunswick is one of the few provinces that still allows for family– owned cemeteries.

But Traer does advocate for keeping cemeteries as intact and as maintained as possible.

"The cemetery is the history of the community," said Traer.

She said the second most common reason for people to visit New Brunswick, following tourism, is to look for their ancestors.

"So what better reason to take care of our cemeteries," said Traer.

Hopeful for return

Dutcher said the ownership of the land has never been in dispute. He said the current owners don't have an issue with his family's plans to restore the small plot.

But, now he's hopeful the research efforts by officials at Kings Landing will prove the headstones belong to his family, and the stones will once again mark where his ancestors are buried.

"That's the idea of having a headstone," said Dutcher.

About the Author

Shane Fowler

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Shane Fowler has been a CBC journalist based in Fredericton since 2013. 

 

     

 

13 Comments 

 



David Amos
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Methinks Mr Dutcher should pick up the phone and call Tammy Scott-Wallace Higgy's latest Minister of Tourism, Heritage and Culture and tell her I said Hey N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Why do the officials at Kings Landing have any doubt as to where the tombstomes belong?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Peggy Dutcher Meyer
These tombstones were meant to mark our grandparents and relatives graves, not to be a tourist attraction. Not sure why Kings landing thinks they are entitled to keep them. Is there a statute of limitations on a persons grave?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Peggy Dutcher Meyer: Perhaps we should talk?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Roy Kirk
Seems to me the provincial govt should return the headstones to their original place. Vandalizing a cemetery to build a tourist attraction seems inappropriate. And just because a 3rd party acted as the vandals for the govt is no good excuse for keeping the loot.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk: I agree
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Marc Bourque
I know of a break water that was back filled with headstones from the early 1900's.I was able to read the name and birthdays and the date of death.Over the years they were covered over with soil........To this day I still dont know why this had happened and the present owner of the property dont have an idea about it...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Bourque: Methinks Higgy et al know that Tammy Scott-Wallace our latest Minister of Tourism, Heritage and Culture and I can tell a few stories that involve the Irving Clan and old grave sites in our neck of the woods N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Al Clark
He's lucky Cormier didn't chuck them out with all the un-con books....
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks many would agree that you and Cormier deserve each other N'esy Pas?

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Toby Tolly
so far 5 stories today on this site are new ....
nothing i would categorize as worth the effort
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Toby Tolly: I disagree bigtime
 
 
Toby Tolly 
Reply to @David Amos: Im honoured 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Of that I have no doubt
 
 
Chris McNee
Reply to @Toby Tolly: if this situation happened to someone you loved you might appreciate this being a story. It’s a disgrace that previous Kings Landing management has stalled in returning the headstones to there rightful grave sites.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Chris McNee: I agree
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Group calling for defunding police seeks role with board overseeing Codiac RCMP

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Methinks the RCMP, their FBI buddies and everybody else with two clues between their ears know who is behind these dubious "Grass Roots" organizations N'esy Pas?
 

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/11/group-calling-for-defunding-police.html 

 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-codiac-rcmp-grassroots-nb-1.5809225

 

 

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Methinks the CBC will NEVER reveal the truth This will be another attempt to make the RCMP appear to be not as incompetent and corrupt as they truly are N'esy Pas? 
 
 

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Group calling for defunding police seeks role with board overseeing Codiac RCMP

Grassroots NB also wants Moncton to stop plans for new police station

Shane Magee· CBC News· Posted: Nov 20, 2020 7:00 AM AT

 


Hafsah Mohammad, left, shown at a recent Moncton council meeting with Charles MacDougall, has requested the group Grassroots NB have a direct role with the Codiac Regional Policing Authority which oversees the Codiac Regional RCMP. (Shane Magee/CBC)

A group that's called for defunding police and halting a new police station in Moncton wants a more direct role in the civilian group that oversees the Codiac Regional RCMP. 

Hafsah Mohammad with Grassroots NB outlined the request at the Codiac Regional Policing Authority board meeting Thursday. Mohammad said the group wants a role similar to that of El Jones in Halifax. 

Jones has been given approval by the Halifax Board of Police Commissioners to plan a committee that will define defunding the police in that city. 

"We would like to offer a voice in the same way," Mohammad said during the online meeting. 

Charles Léger, chair of the board and a Moncton councillor, said it's an idea worth considering. 

"I certainly, based on what I'm seeing in terms of community engagement and making sure that people's concerns are heard, think it's a good approach," Léger said during the meeting.

Charles Léger, chair of the Codiac Regional Policing Authority and a Moncton city councillor, says the suggestion by Grassroots NB is worth examining. (Shane Magee/CBC)

Léger said the concept will be discussed at a future subcommittee meeting. 

The policing authority oversees Codiac RCMP, which polices Moncton, Dieppe and Riverview. 

Mohammad has said they should cut police spending to other things in the community. 

It's 2021 budget is $34.6 million for 147 officers. 

"The Codiac Regional Police get tens of millions of dollars to provide a service for a small fraction of the total population of 145,000 people," Mohammad said. 

"So if not for the sake of having a healthy and safe community for all people, can we consider re-imagining the approach to crime prevention for austerity's sake?"

Call to halt new building

Mohammad and Charles MacDougall have recently appeared at Moncton council calling for the city to halt plans to build a new RCMP station in the city. 

The city's 2021 budget forecasts spending $46 million on the station, though that figure is expected to be updated once design work is complete in January. 

James Graves, who sits on a policing authority committee planning the station, told the board Thursday that design work is about 90 per cent complete. 

The updated figure in January will include changes to materials costs related to COVID-19, which has made some building materials like lumber more expensive.

A construction is expected to be issued early next year with a decision on awarding the contract in the spring. 

Planning for the new station has been underway for years, though its cost estimate has repeatedly risen as its completion timeline has been pushed back

The latest timeline suggests it will be open in early spring 2023.


A rendering of the front of the planned Codiac Regional RCMP building. Final design of the building is about 90 per cent complete. (Codiac Regional Policing Authority)

The city purchased land for the station along Albert Street for $2.45 million in 2019. That land was cleared and remediated this year. 

The existing station on Main Street opened in 1980 and was headquarters of the smaller Moncton municipal police force before RCMP took over in the 1990s. 

Leger has previously described the old building as "cramped" and no longer meeting RCMP design standards.

The new station is expected to be designed to accommodate growth in the police force as the region's population increases and to move the dispatch centre, now in a Dieppe fire hall, into the building.

 


  

152 Comments 

 


David Amos
Methinks anyone can Google El Jones David Amos RCMP public inquiry N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: None of what you post about your quest against the law is true. Its all in your imagination 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Oh My My Methinks i should make a few calls in order to remind some people that I am paying attention N'esy Pas? 
 
 
David White
Reply to @David Amos: Wethinks we don't care what you do N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David White: We shall see won't WE?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: No
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @David Amos: My conversation with you left me more confused than anything though I have absolutely no doubts you and I have endured similar things.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David White: FYI I just called Leger and MacDougall about this article just like said I would
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Perhaps you should have tried listening to me 
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @David Amos: I don't put up with people who talk at me incessantly. All I did was listen to you with the exception of a couple of occurrence where I offered my very brief opinion or ask you a question. I tried to ask you a question and you hung up.

Have a good one Mr. Amos I suspect you and I are fighting different battles.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Obviously thats why I hung up
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @David Amos: With you sir it is far too much encoded message and far too little cypher. Ideally there is zero of both. There was also no linear chronology or coherence to your sentences. Your blog also takes people in circles. You strike me as one of the many people who would talk in circles for an hour if somebody lets them. I wasn't rude but I insisted on being heard and then you "let me go."

Best of luck going forward.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Justin Gunther: BS You refused to discuss page 1 of the very same file that Leger and MacDougall did today but I lay odds you saved it because you sent me text about CISIS after I LET YOU GO CORRECT?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Justin Gunther: you two were meant to be.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Ray Oliver: locked up together that is. Along with another Mr. Raymond in the news today!
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: isn't that cute you're phone buddies now. No, you hang up first... no, you.. awwwww 
 










 
 
Bill VanBlarcom
Completely disagree with any move to defund the police....I think it's about time we had a little common sense in this sea of politically correct trendy pseudo intellectual stupidity. Give the police more money and quit listening to these crackpot fools.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ian Scott: Methinks the RCMP dude Cpl Mark Blakley now employed in the Major Crimes Unit in Fat Fred City who falsely arrested and assaulted me in 2008 should find my old Harley and the tapes in its saddlebag ASAP Nesy Pas? 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Obviously Mark Rushton and Mark R and Bill VanBlarcom and Ian Scott are the same dudes their names change like Ray Oliver's does when I refresh the page 
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Better fire off an email to the spam folder of the RCMP stat!! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Mark R
Don't like the way we live?..lots other countries to try
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Mark Rushton: Who is we?
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @David Amos: Obviously Mark Rushton and Mark R and Bill VanBlarcom and Ian Scott are the same dudes their names change like Ray Oliver's does when I refresh the page 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
janice small
Not only is the idea insane, it’s hard to imagine it would get any traction in any community, even one where a bad cop killed a man who was cuffed behind his back begging for his life. The behavior was despicable and the officer should and will be held accountable. Whether improvements can be made in law enforcement agencies is a question that will always be answered with one word: Yes. However, the defunding of an agency or police department is counterproductive to the well-being and safety of everyone. I think they need more money and training to go along with it. Canada being a free county if things aren't what you wish for you have the option to move to a place where the state or province will entertain this foolish idea.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @janice small: Methinks you should read the article again N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael John
Defunding the police is a recipe for sheer madness and chaos...if the police are minimized and left without sufficient resources, people will want more weapons to defend themselves....its only common sense.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Michael John: Methinks recent news should cause many folks to agree that the police need ethical civilian oversight ASAP before we provide them more funds to abuse us and their fellow members with N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Stanley Kerr
The defund the police movement suggestion paper would be good to use with kindling to get your woodstove lit..
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Stanley Kerr: So you say
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: sounds alot like what Higgs uses you files in court and letters for!
 
 
greg getz
Reply to @David Amos: Who are the people having run ins with the police, people breaking the law?
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @greg getz: Who are you referring to? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Peter C. Shearer
Putting a group that states it's goal is to ""defund" the police, on the civilian committee that oversees the police, is like putting the fox in charge of guarding the hen house. And the chairman who says it is an idea worth looking into, should be replaced for stupidity.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Peter C. Shearer: Methinks WE should not be surprised to see members and former members of the RCMP state such things N'esy Pas? 
 
 
Peter C. Shearer
Reply to @David Amos: Let's try this again since the CBC didn't like my reply - This is the only time I reply - I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the RCMP or any other police force. N''ésy Pas???
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Peter C. Shearer: Methinks you know as well as I that my reply was not allowed to stand the test of time for political reasons N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: soon this account you use will meet the same fate as your other hahaha.. for political reasons I'm sure
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
G Rex
I fear that this mindlessness may increase as the younger generations become the majority or should I, like so many others before me, have more respect for the intelligence and knowledge of the young? A change in our dominant media would help, I'm sure. (If only I could stop my tax dollars from being funnelled to outlets that are among the guilty!)
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @G Rex: Methinks the younger generations fund the CBC and the RCMP with their tax dollars too N'esy Pas?
 
 
G Rex
Reply to @David Amos:
If you think that anything I wrote above suggests that they do not, then "Methinks" is a misleading word choice.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @G Rex: Methinks you should read my words again N'esy Pas?
 
 
David White
Reply to @David Amos: Wethinks we dont care what you Methinks. N'esy Pas?
 
 
Leigh O'Brien
Reply to @David Amos: Nobody can get past your rude ridiculous misspelled French affection.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Leigh O'Brien: he is the definition of self centered id iot. Gigantic Ego
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Leigh O'Brien: Methinks many Acadians around the Bay of Fundy must laugh at how only Anglos get upset over the my way of using an old English term out of the gate then polishing off a statement with a Chiac expression N'esy Pas? 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Leigh O'Brien: Methinks the dude with the strange ego has to be the RCMP shill who does not use his real name as he cyber stalks my family and pretends to be Clint Eastwood ce soir N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: my name? You mean so you could literally call and whoever you interpreted me to be daily? Your MO? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Robert van Riezen
The police should increase and anyone wanting less needs to be put in the slums for a couple of months.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Robert van Riezen: Yea right
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: you're already in the slums surprised you don't agree. 2 months is a breeze eh pal
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
eddy watts 
(Ha) defunding police "groups"....95% of the supporters own nothing, work nowhere, as such their big hope in getting ahead, is in some make believe world of anarchy. That said, the people making the decisions are politicians, so maybe the anarchist have a shot.
 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @eddy watts: Methinks the RCMP, their FBI buddies and everybody else with two clues between their ears know who is behind these dubious "Grass Roots" organizations N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jim Johnston
I do not believe we have anywhere near the issues in ANY part of Canada that are motivating the defund of police forces in the USA so I do not support jumping on that bandwagon. Do we need to make the police and those we have empowered with law enforcement powers more accountable - certainly. As bad as some of our police are, and we do have significant issues in NB and Canada, they still provide a valuable service.
 
 
eddy watts
Reply to @Jim Johnston: I tend to agre withmost of what you say...but I think we need to acknowledge that NB is not even close to the complexities of life in Toronto..
 
 
Robert van Riezen
Reply to @Jim Johnston: As bad as some of our police are? Insanity rules again.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jim Johnston: Methinks you should read the the Bastarache Commission real slow N'esy Pas?
 
 
David White
Reply to @David Amos: Wethink not N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Amajor Hall
This is just CBC ramping up the socialism rhetoric! You want to remove the police, see what happens, go for it, but they'll be the ones calling 911 first!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Amajor Hall: Yup
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Justin Gunther
These are not the people to be making these decisions. I have numerous times vocalized my numerous concerns about both RCMP and our local municipal police but these people do not speak for me.
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Eliminate any and all intelligence liaison positions and refocus enforcement on actual crimes instead of circling certain citizens and fining people for COVID nonsense.
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Justin Gunther: As for our plain clothed military deployed in the streets... I'll get to you.
 
 
Robert van Riezen
Reply to @Justin Gunther: Is there any brain behind these posts?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Robert van Riezen: Trust that I am beginning to wonder
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Robert van Riezen: none. Or maybe is it about 8 different brains fighting for the keyboard?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jonathan Steeves
Get out and go away, enough of this nonsense.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jonathan Steeves: What are you going to do about it?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Jonathan Steeves: they'll be home soon, mom set curfew for before dark and its meatloaf night. None of these people live in the real world
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jason Macendale
New York City listened to the activists and cut their budget. The number of shootings in New York City so far this year is more than twice as high as all of 2019.

When Mohammad says "having a healthy and safe community for all people" she means keeping BIPOC folks (to use their terminology) safe from the threat of the police.

Congratulations you have succeeded in making people safe from the threat of police. But the threat of being shot to death by your fellow citizen just sky rocketed! Great work BLM!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jason Macendale: Well put
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Marc Bourque
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....good luck!
 
 
Marc LeBlanc
Reply to @Marc Bourque: Normally an lol would have sufficed however in this case the excessive rapid fire hahas are more than warranted
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Bourque: I concur
 
 
Marc Bourque
Reply to @Marc LeBlanc: Toucher aren’t we. How about. LMFA instead? Feel better?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Al Clark
Don't be too surprised higgys crusade is wilfully blind here.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: So says a dubious liberal
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David White
More Rainbow crosswalks, festivals and bright coloured murals will solve everything. Sorry, could not resist. I would agree there needs to be reform not only to the police but to the legal system itself (decriminalize drugs and make that a health issue) but to defund? pass.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David White: bs
 
 
David White
Reply to @David Amos: yes you are we always knew.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David White: I repeat who is WE???
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Joseph Pierre De Grandmont
The RCMP record demands review. This organization is long past its "best before date". It's laurels are long faded and it has become in many ways a national embarrassment .
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Joseph Pierre De Grandmont: oh please you take any organization as large as that and there will be issues.....preach elsewhere
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Joseph Pierre De Grandmont: Methinks much to Samual Johnston's chagrin that maybe the understatement that will rot his socks for years N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ron Linda
The consistent I want, and the gimmies. Never ends. 
 
 
Rudy Hicks
Reply to @Ron Linda: Do you not care how your taxes are spent? I don't want mine used to build a police station until all the homeless are housed, and until we have decent crime prevention services. 
 
 
Samual Johnston 
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: how about no ice cream allowed until we cure cancer
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: Well put
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael Collins
How about we put those that want to defund the police on a Do Not Respond list for police services.
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Michael Collins: betcha that girl in edmundston would wish she was on it.
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Michael Collins: and that victim in bathurst train station keystone loo episode.
 
 
Clive Gibbons
Reply to @Al Clark: She wasn't the one who called, and the police didn't just decide to go for a visit.
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Clive Gibbons: Aren't you the smart one? Still dead eh?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: i am not dead yet
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Clive Gibbons: How about the geniuses that shot up the Onslow Fire hall; the people sheltering there from the RCMP cluster F didn't call either!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jim Johnson
Fund the police. Defund CBC.
 
 
John Grail
Reply to @Jim Johnson: How about defund everything.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jim Johnson: I kinda sorta agree
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
James Edward
I'm sure those two in the picture could really handle themselves instead of involving police. These kids have never likely dealt with any sort of real adversity or evil.
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @James Edward: but they read about it....opps I mean they watch CNN everyday so they must know what they are talking about...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: I cocncur
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Joe Rootliek
Defund the Police? The police are were always in constraint mode, for the past 30 years, in my opinion. Limited resources.

They steal something in your area, you talk to the police "Oh, we will put it on our list. If we come across it, we will call you"

A far cry from the police in the 70s, when they would follow up, and do check on things, but in many areas they do not have the resources to deal with theft, for instance.

What is needed is not to defund the police--- Train the Police, on how to deal with arrest, not to shoot to kill when someone is running away, but shoot in the leg, to weaken the assailant, perhaps in some situations.

Train the police. Fund the police for that.
 
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Or too busy creeping their new target er girlfriend and planning freedom 45 like the stud in ruuuuthesay.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks you may have more local cops for enemies than I do N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
George Matthews
Moncton so easily forgets that when there was an active shooter it was the RCMP who ran in head first to stop them.

Same in Nova Scotia when that guy was taking people out it wasn't any of these Defund the Police people running out to stop them it was the RCMP.

I agree with getting rid of bad police officers like the guy who was suspended for 4 years that is what needs to change.
 
 
Mike Chiasson
Reply to @George Matthews: Please, don't write anything that is logical and that is obvious because the two individuals will have no clue what it means
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Mike Chiasson: Who cares Nobody reads any of this
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
John Beacon
I am in total disagreement with any suggestion to defund the police. I would like to see something factual based on statistics to prove lesser police budgeting is acceptable put forward by this group. Turning a police department into a call centre is very dangerous.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @John Beacon: Relax and enjoy the circus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jason Inness
I fully believe we (as a society) need to look at improving policing services. I am not sure what is meant by "defunding" the police. Are these people suggesting that we live without law enforcement of any kind? If not, then what is their objective when it comes to defunding the police?
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Jason Inness: exactly --- they automatically assume defunding is the solution --- perhaps the solution is more funding and training etc...... they have already stated their intention before looking at the issue ---- reform government spending --- Support the Police
 
 
Jason Macendale
Reply to @Jason Inness: You are correct; police reform is a conversation to be had. Terms like "defund the police" mean anywhere from reallocate resources to outright abolish police, depending on who you talk to. These terms are weighted with semantic overload and are not defined anywhere. That is the purpose of good propaganda; it doesn't mean anything. These activists that get wrapped up in this are so misguided and as we see in New York and elsewhere that it is dangerous to the public at large when city counsels listen to them. 
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Jason Inness: Methinks its just more socialist rhetoric courtesy of George Soros et al N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Getting involved in community structure and politics is open to all. We really need to address this after the fact stop the train we want more input into the process from vocal minorities.
Voters elect municipal and provincial politicians. They are entrusted by the voters to make these decisions. If you disagree with them, be sure to let them know. If they do not meet your expectations, don't vote for them next time around. If you really disagree with them, put yourself up for office and run and get elected.
We really need to address this bigger issue of focusing on vocal minorities only. We want effective policing, we don't want to defund then. We want quality mental health care, we don't want police officers being forced to act like front line mental health care experts.
 
 
George Matthews
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: When they are having a breakdown and running around with a knife and people are scared they are going to get hurt. People will call the police what is a mental health worker going to do.

I'm not sure whatever happened sometimes bad shit happens and it's not people doing it on purpose.
 
 
Ron Linda
Reply to @These people consistently complain, but do nothing to rectify any problems. We don't owe you anything!JOhn D Bond:
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @George Matthews: So I think the issue is the issue of bad stuff happening and that the people doing it are not doing it on purpose.
Should the reason why the person is doing it come into the decisioning on how to treat an incident when there is a threat to the public or the police officer.
I personally don't think so. This is or should not be about the perpetrators medical history. It is about the actions they are taking in the moment and if they are or not perceived to be a threat. If a threat then the police need to address it as they would any other incident where there is a threat.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Ron Linda: ??? what exactly are you trying to say it does not make any sense.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ron Linda: What have you done lately?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Sounds a bit like the Bloc Quebecois, a party founded on the idea that Quebec should separate from Canada that participates in Canada's federal government.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yo Yankee Methinks its time for your nap N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Graham McCormack
It seems there are many people on both sides of this issue that don't understand what this is all about. Everyone needs to look past all the rhetoric and figure this out.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Graham McCormack: What is the root of all evil?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Allan J Whitney
Nice to see Marxists stepping up to the plate and trying to help. Glad to see them volunteering to help the police.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Allan J Whitney: Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Darren Croft
Seems like the ones that want to defund the police would be the first to call them
 
 
Mike Chiasson
Reply to @Darren Croft: mainly because luckily for them, it only involves 3 numbers
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Darren Croft: Oh So True
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Mike Chiasson: LOL
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Joe Campbell
Ok, lets defund student grants! Lets defund refugees claims...turn them all away! Lets defund welfare! The list goes on!
 
 
Dan Armitage
Reply to @Joe Campbell: defund CBC
 
 
George Matthews
Reply to @Joe Campbell: I agree with defunding welfare or mandatory community service in order to get it.
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @George Matthews: lets give the welfare recipients a badge and whistle and have them become the guardians of law --- 2 birds one stone.
 
 
John Grail
Reply to @Joe Campbell: I agree though. Let's defund it all. As a voluntaryist we should only pay for the services we want.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Armitage: Amend
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Spellcheck to amend itself
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Armitage: AMEN
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Christopher Harborne
Gawd will these crazy people just go away...the woke movement is beyond dumb. These people know nothing about the law and policing and what needs there are based on individual areas. So why is anybody even listening to them?
 
 
Kevin Chaulk
Reply to @Christopher Harborne: My attitude is far from macho, it's called common sense! I liked the woke so much better when they were just the walking dead!
 
 
John Grail
Reply to @Kevin Chaulk: As long as we defund anything, go for it. Why not have a system where the people who require the police pay. For instance, if you are in an accident and the police are needed, the insurance company would pay.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Kevin Chaulk: What is it you think you know about the law and policing?
 
 
Jake Devries
Reply to @Kevin Chaulk: Let's defund welfare... 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tim Trites
apparently you CAN make this stuff up
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Tim Trites: Perhaps you should check my documents
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dave Shimla
yes lets defund the police, lots of criminals will support this, at the same time we should remove all guns from law abiding citizens...
 
 
Dan Armitage
Reply to @Dave Shimla: The Libs are working on that as we speak
 
 
Karl Childers
Reply to @Dave Shimla: Never give up your arms.
 
 
David White
Reply to @Karl Childers: ... or legs. assault weapons yes.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Karl Childers: I concur In fact methinks everybody knows that I was quoted by the Irving media saying something similar to that while I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos 
Content disabled
Reply to @Dan Armitage: Methinks they have been working hard on that for a couple of decades N'ay Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Charles Léger

 
 
 
 

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Independent panel 'a slap in the face,' says daughter of N.S. shooting victim

---------- Original message ----------
From: El Jones <El.Jones@msvu.ca>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:13:35 +0000
Subject: Re: RE The "Strike back: Demand an inquiry Event." Methinks
it interesting that Martha Paynter is supported by the Pierre Elliott
Trudeau Foundation N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Trudeau fellowships are, I believe, awarded to the top candidates who
apply for PhD funding to SSHRC each year (which most institutions make
mandatory.) I say that just to say it is a research award more than a
political affiliation, although certainly raises questions whether
it’s ever appropriate to name research fellowships after political
figures. And they def try to network with the researchers etc.

Sent from my iPhone

 

---------- Original message ----------
From: Timothy Bousquet <tim@halifaxexaminer.ca>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:27:40 -0300
Subject: Re: 3579
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Hello, I’m taking a much-needed vacation and will not be responding to
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 6:48 PM, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:

> BTW I inserted a lot more info in this blog

>
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/independent-panel-slap-in-face-says.html
>



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Wednesday, 29 July 2020

Federal and provincial governments to hold public inquiry into Nova Scotia mass shootings

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Replying to
Methinks lots of folks may enjoy what Peter Mac Issac and his cohorts said while the RCMP and a lot of LIEbranos were stuttering and doubletalking bigtime N'esy Pas?



https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/rallies-continue-push-for-public.html



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Subject: Automatic reply: YO Melanie Joly ans Pablo Rodriguez Methinks
Steven Guilbeault, his buddy Catherine Tait and all your former nasty
minions in CBC must take courses on playing dumb N'esy Pas?
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 05:16:53 -0300
Subject: YO Melanie Joly ans Pablo Rodriguez Methinks Steven Guilbeault, his buddy
Catherine Tait and all your former nasty minions in CBC must take courses on playing
dumb N'esy Pas?
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I waited all day to hear this nonsense


https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1769780803841









----------Origiinal message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:09:14 -0300
Subject: RE The "Strike back: Demand an inquiry Event." What a
difference a day makes EH? Notice CBC ain't talking about this yet?
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< barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki"
< Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, washington field
< washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "Frank.McKenna"<Frank.McKenna@td.com>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, prmibullrun@gmail.com,
"Catherine.Tait"<Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca>, "Chuck.Thompson"
< Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca>





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Subject: RE: YO Bill.Blair Now that a full Public Inquiry is in order
Methinks people such as Anne McLellan, Ralph Goodale Leanne Fitch,
Allan Carroll, Mark Furey and YOU should testify under oath N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

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 ----------Origiinal message ----------
 From: Peter Mac Isaac <prmibullrun@gmail.com>
 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:42:20 -0300
 Subject: Re: RE The "Strike back: Demand an inquiry Event." Methinks
it interesting that Martha Paynter is supported by the Pierre Elliott
 Trudeau Foundation N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

 A lot of info to chew on - every now and then we win one - Today we
 won a partial victory when the provincial liberals threw the federal
 liberals under the bus forcing their hand . Now the spin will be to
 get a judge they can control.

 > On Jul 28, 2020, at 6:48 PM, David Amos
< david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
 >
 > BTW I inserted a lot more info in this blog
 >
 > https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/independent-panel-slap-in-face-says.html
 >
 >
 > https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/province-house/protesters-decry-shocking-and-paternalistic-decision-to-hold-review-not-inquiry-into-nova-scotia-mass-shooting/
 >
 >
 > Protesters decry ‘shocking and paternalistic’ decision to hold review,
 > not inquiry into Nova Scotia mass shooting
 > July 27, 2020 By Yvette d'Entremont
 >
 > Gathered at Victoria Park in Halifax at noon Monday for a general
 > strike intended to draw attention to demands for a public inquiry into
 > the Nova Scotia mass killing.
 >
 > The event was slated to run from noon to 12:22, a 22-minute strike to
 > pay homage to the 22 people whose lives were taken during the weekend
 > of April 18-19.
 >
 > “This is something that all sectors of society have asked for,” Martha
 > Paynter, founder and coordinator of Women’s Wellness Within, told
 > reporters before the event started.
 >
 > Her organization works for reproductive justice, prison abolition and
 > health equity. It was one of several feminist community activist and
 > advocacy groups behind Monday’s ‘Strike back: Demand an inquiry’
> event."
 >
 >
 >
 > https://marthapaynter.ca/
 >
 >
 > ‘Strike back: Demand an inquiry’ event." is a registered nurse
 > providing abortion and postpartum care. She is a Doctoral Candidate in
 > Nursing at Dalhousie University. She is the founder and coordinator of
 > Women’s Wellness Within, a non-profit organization supporting
 > criminalized women and transgender/nonbinary individuals in the
 > perinatal period in carceral institutions and the community. She works
 > to advance reproductive justice through advocacy, collaboration and
 > nursing scholarship.
 >
 > For her nursing advocacy and research, Martha has received numerous
 > awards including  the 2018 Rising Star Award from the Canadian
 > Association of Perinatal and Women’s Health Nurses, the 2018 Health
 > Advocacy Award from the Council of the College of Registered Nurses of
 > Nova Scotia, the 2018 3M National Student Fellowship, and in 2017, the
 > Senate of Canada Sesquicentennial Medal for volunteer service to the
 > country.
 >
 > Martha’s doctoral research is supported by the Pierre Elliott Trudeau
 > Foundation, CIHR Banting-Best Canadian Doctoral Scholarship, the
 > Killam Predoctoral Scholarship, the Canadian Nurses Foundation,
 > Dalhousie University and the IWK Health Centre"
 >
 >
 >
 > ---------- Original message ----------
 > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
 > Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:29:02 -0400
 > Subject: Attn El Jones I just called and left a message saying
Iiked your style
 > To: El.Jones@msvu.ca, tim@halifaxexaminer.ca, "steve.murphy"
 > <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>
 > Cc: "David.Raymond.Amos"<David.Raymond.Amos@gmail.com>
 >
 > https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/featured/prisons-refugees-cats/#3.%20Fight%20me%20over%20cat%20names
 >
 > Prisons, Refugees, Cats
 >
 > August 5, 2018 By El Jones
 >
 > Martha Paynter was driving through New Brunswick this weekend and
 > texted me that she saw a billboard for the Airbnb in the old
 > Dorchester Jail.
 >
 > Among the attractions listed on the website are that it was the site
 > of the last double hanging in New Brunswick (more on that in a
 > moment), with a highlight being that guests can stay in the former
 > cells.
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Child and Youth Advocate says keeping schools open is vital for students

Norm Bossé delivered his seventh State of the Child report Friday looking at children in the pandemic

Lauren Bird· CBC News· Posted: Nov 20, 2020 5:58 PM AT 

 

 

Norm Bossé released his report on children and youth, and says the province must look closer at how students are managing during the pandemic.

Children in New Brunswick have been among the Canadian students most seriously impacted by the long school shutdown caused by the pandemic, said the province's Child and Youth and Seniors' Advocate. 

Norm Bossé delivered his seventh State of the Child report Friday, called, "Protecting Child Rights in Times of Pandemic." 

Bossé said keeping schools open is vital to helping vulnerable children during the pandemic. 

"That's why we're saying, if all else fails, just keep the schools open as long as we can," he said.

Bossé said during the long shutdown in the spring, many students lost more than just education time. They also lost stability and access to vital services, leaving them vulnerable.

"Schools and teachers are at the forefront of making sure that young children and young adults are well," Bossé said.

Talk to the students

If a student has a problem he said, teachers are usually the first to spot it. But Bossé said there's still not enough data being collected about just how students are being affected. 

"We do not have any statistics in New Brunswick yet because we haven't gone and asked and engaged those young people in, 'Okay, what did COVID do for you? How did you do at home? How did you do at school?'"

Bossé is recommending the department of education have students fill out surveys about their experiences throughout the pandemic and shutdown, and the effect both have had on their education and their lives. 

It's work he said isn't currently being done, but should be right now, and again when the pandemic is over. 

"Once we get those statistics we will be able to form a picture to say, 'What was the worst effect on kids? What did not go right in restarting school? What did they suffer most from -- was it the alienation? Not being able to play in the school ground, to get to know their friends again, not to have sleepovers at their friends houses?''

Bossé said he's "very concerned" about students who did not re-enrol when school started again in the fall and recommends that every student who didn't should be contacted and assessed. 

According to the Department of Education 2,316 homeschool requests have been approved for this year. 

Six recommendations are outlined in the report including the creation of a youth parliament, and the incorporation of the United Nations' Convention on the Rights of the Child into domestic law, among others. 

 

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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the same rule held true with the very political lawyer Murray but Higgy retained the ombudsman until January 1, 2021 when he appointed his buddy Chucky to be the Integrity Commissioner while replacing d'Entremont with a conservative buddy from the law society for obvious reasons.

On January 1, 2020, Charles Murray was appointed as the Integrity Commissioner for the Province for a seven-year term. At the same time, he was appointed as the Acting Ombud for a one-year term and will continue to serve in both capacities until a new Ombud is appointed.

3 new watchdogs appointed

Premier names child and youth advocate, official languages commissioner and ombudsman
CBC News · Posted: Jun 14, 2013 3:24 PM AT

The Alward government has announced the appointment of three new people to watchdog positions in the province, based on a new selection process.

The new child and youth advocate is Saint John lawyer Norm Bossé, who represented victims in the Kingsclear reformatory sex abuse case.

Katherine d'Entremont, a career civil servant, will be the new commissioner of official languages.

And the new ombudsman is Charles Murray, a civil servant and former political assistant to one-time Tory MP Elsie Wayne and to former PC cabinet minister Brad Green.

"I am confident that their experience and education will help them to carry out their respective duties effectively," said Premier David Alward.

He said Murray's appointment is not political."

"The individuals went through a very significant assessment and interviewing process."

The committee in this case included a provincial court judge, a member of the university community, the clerk of the legislature and the clerk of the executive council.
 
  
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N.B. Premier subject of language lawyer's complaint to Official Languages Office
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Thursday, May 30th 2019 - 12:25 pm

The Acadie-Nouvelle reports a language lawyer filed a complaint on Wednesday after Blaine Higgs cancelled an on-going selection process to find a new Official Languages Commissioner in favour of a new process.

Attorney Michel Doucet says the Premier doesn't have the power to cancel the process and accuses Higgs of trying to weaken the independence of the selection committee and questioning the integrity of the Official Languages Act.

Higgs had said a new commissioner would be selected as soon as possible, but likely not before July.

He cancelled the process citing a delay caused by last fall's provincial election and saying there were only a handful of applicants.

But the selection committee says it had interviews scheduled with at least seven candidates for the job.

Some opposition members say they fear Higgs is stalling the process to make a partisan appointment.

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Terry Tibbs:
It's too bad that somehow these positions can't be filled with people with at least a small measure of common sense.

 
David Amos
 Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Political Science 101 forbids the application of common sense Nesy Pas?

 

 

https://www.nbseniorsadvocate.ca/about-the-advocate

 

 

Norman J. Bossé, Q.C. was appointed Child and Youth Advocate for New Brunswick on June 14, 2013. On July 1st , 2017, his responsibilities were expanded to include seniors and adults under protection as the first NB Seniors’ Advocate.

Mr. Bossé has had an extensive legal career with nearly 30 years as a practicing lawyer with law firms Clark Drummie and McInnes Cooper. He became a partner with Clark Drummie in 1995 and with McInnes Cooper subsequent to the firms’ 2010 merger.

In 2008, he was appointed as Queen’s Counsel. In 1993-94, Mr. Bossé served as counsel to the victims of abuse during the Miller Inquiry, which dealt with abuse at the Kingsclear Youth Training Center.

He is a member of the Canadian Bar Association and Law Society of New Brunswick, where he served as Chairperson of the Complaints Committee from 2005 to 2013. Mr. Bossé has also served as an Honourary Solicitor and President of the New Brunswick Division of the Canadian Cancer Society, and as a member of the National Board of Directors of the Canadian Cancer Society and National Cancer Institute. He was awarded an Honorary Life Membership from the Canadian Cancer Society in 2001. Prior to his legal career, Mr. Bossé taught junior high school in Sussex, New Brunswick. He holds a Bachelor of Laws (Juris Doctor) from the University of New Brunswick, and Bachelors of Arts and Education from St. Thomas University. Mr. Bossé is also certified as a mediator by the Lex Mundi College of Mediation and holds a Certificate of Achievement in Advanced Dispute Resolution from the Faculty of Law at the University of Windsor. An avid musician and sports enthusiast, Mr. Bossé and his wife, Moira, reside in Saint John, and have four children and eleven grandchildren.

 

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N.B. Premier subject of language lawyer's complaint to Official Languages Office

THE CANADIAN PRESS/Andrew Vaughan
New Brunswick's Premier is the subject of a complaint to the province's official languages office.

The Acadie-Nouvelle reports a language lawyer filed a complaint on Wednesday after Blaine Higgs cancelled an on-going selection process to find a new Official Languages Commissioner in favour of a new process.

Attorney Michel Doucet says the Premier doesn't have the power to cancel the process and accuses Higgs of trying to weaken the independence of the selection committee and questioning the integrity of the Official Languages Act.

Higgs had said a new commissioner would be selected as soon as possible, but likely not before July.

He cancelled the process citing a delay caused by last fall's provincial election and saying there were only a handful of applicants.

But the selection committee says it had interviews scheduled with at least seven candidates for the job.

Some opposition members say they fear Higgs is stalling the process to make a partisan appointment.

(with files from the Acadie-Nouvelle)

 

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/austin-threatens-to-topple-government-if-higgs-accepts-language-report-1.4625316?cache=%3FclipId%3D89750

Austin threatens to topple government if Higgs accepts language report

Published Friday, October 4, 2019 9:42PM ADT

FREDERICTON -- The New Brunswick official languages annual report was released Friday and the province's political leaders aren't all on-board with its recommendations.

"It's clear to me that we still have a lot of work to do in order to move our province forward in terms of bilingualism," New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs said after the release of the Office Of The Commissioner Of Official Languages' Annual Report.

The report outlines proposals to improve the linguistic divide in the province.

"It is how we have determined in New Brunswick, how we were going to deal, how government was going to deal with the obligations to serve people in both official languages," said Michel Carrier, the acting commissioner for Official Languages NB.

The report recommends government create an official languages secretariat, which would act as a watchdog for linguistic equality.

That's something Green Party leader David Coon says would be a good idea.

"We're a unique province as the only officially bilingual province in Canada, and yet we don't have anybody inside government who's responsible for ensuring that we continue to move forward in implementing the Official Languages Act," Coon said.

People's Alliance of New Brunswick leader Kris Austin reacted quickly to the commissioner's report.

"I think it's another example of language extremism we see in this province as it related to bilingualism," Austin said.

In a party statement, Austin said if Higgs followed the report's recommendations, they "will bring down government."

Austin also says the quantity of complaints received by the office over the past year -- less than 100 -- doesn't justify the existence of the Official Languages Office.

"It costs the taxpayers half a million dollars a year, it's divisive, and it produces very little," said Austin.

He suggested it should be rolled under the provincial ombudsman's office.

Despite Austin's assurance he would do everything in his power to dissolve government should Higgs decide to follow all the report's recommendations, other parties say he wouldn't be able to do it alone. And don't believe it's a legitimate threat to government.

"He's getting fake news out there," said Liberal MLA Gilles Lepage."He's terrifying people in New Brunswick."

Said Coon: "People's Alliance do not have the power to dissolve government. They are three MLAs among 49."

Higgs said he didn't feel threatened by Austin's shot across the bow.

"Whether the People's Alliance decide to support me or not will be their own decision at the time of whatever comes forward in the legislature," Higgs said.

Above all else, Higgs stressed his disappointment in the state of province's bilingualism 50 years after it officially came into effect. And, while he won't be instating an official languages secretariat, he does hope to address the root of the issue of the province's linguistic divide, which he says is education.

Kris Austin

"I think it's another example of language extremism we see in this province as it related to bilingualism," Peoples Alliance of New Brunswick leader Kris Austin said.

 


 

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Interim integrity commissioner appointed

FREDERICTON (GNB) – Charles Murray has been appointed as the interim integrity commissioner.

His appointment was effective on Jan. 1. Murray is performing the duties in an acting capacity while an independent process selects a replacement for Alexandre Deschênes, who resigned and left the position on Dec. 31. Deschênes was appointed conflict of interest commissioner in December 2016 and became New Brunswick’s first integrity commissioner on Dec. 16, 2016.

Murray was sworn in as Ombud of New Brunswick on July 3, 2013 for a seven-year term. He holds a bachelor of laws from the Dalhousie Law School and has had extensive experience in the public service, the federal government and in law. Murray will continue in his role as ombud as well as serving as acting integrity commissioner.

Leader of the Official Opposition Brian Gallant was consulted on the appointment of Murray.

The position of integrity commissioner was established on Dec. 16, 2016 when the Integrity Commissioner Act was adopted. The Office of the Integrity Commissioner is an independent office of the legislative assembly striving to encourage and sustain a culture of integrity and accountability. The office is responsible for administering the Members’ Conflict of Interest Act, which sets out acceptable standards of conduct for all members of the legislative assembly and of the executive council, and for the Lobbyists’ Registration Act to ensure transparency and accountability in the lobbying of public office holders. The office is also responsible for the administration of the Right to Information and Protection of Privacy Act and the Personal Health Information Privacy and Access Act.

 

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New Brunswick Interim integrity commissioner Charles Murray sits down with Blogger!!!


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Security Staff at New Brunswick Legislature refuse to allow Blogger to see Ombudsman Charles Murray!


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 https://oic-bci.ca/about-us/commissioner-biography/

On January 1, 2020, Charles Murray was appointed as the Integrity Commissioner for the Province for a seven-year term. At the same time, he was appointed as the Acting Ombud for a one-year term and will continue to serve in both capacities until a new Ombud is appointed.

Charles is a graduate of Queen’s University in Kingston, ON, and Dalhousie Law School in Halifax, NS.

He started his career as a private practice lawyer in New Brunswick in the late 1980s. Over the years he has served the provincial and federal governments through various roles.  Over the years he served the provincial and federal governments through various roles. He was the Executive Director of the Electoral Boundaries Commission and Policy Manager of Legislation and Professional Regulation for the New Brunswick Department of Health.

He served as Ombud for the Province of New Brunswick form 2013 until 2020.

Charles was raised on the Kingston Peninsula and now lives with his wife Sarah and twin boys Gideon and Grant and daughter Elizabeth in Fredericton.  He is a member of the Epsilon Y’s Men Club (Fredericton, NB), the Confraternity of Saint James, the New Brunswick Law Society, and the Canadian Bar Association.  He also acts as a Tournament Director in the American Contract Bridge League.

He is a black belt in Kinrosha karate and occasionally walks marathons.


 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/language-act-review-1.5783926

 

Higgs faces crucial test with review of languages act

For francophones who worry about where premier stands on language rights, it's a chance to turn the page

 

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Nov 02, 2020 5:00 AM AT 

 


Premier Blaine Higgs, seen at an Oct. 9 press conference, thanked Campbellton region residents on Thursday for their efforts in getting the region back to the Yellow level. (Submitted by the Province of New Brunswick)

Premier Blaine Higgs will soon launch a review of the Official Languages Act during one of the most linguistically fraught periods in the province's recent history. 

The act contains a clause requiring it be reviewed every 10 years, forcing Higgs and his Progressive Conservative government to take on an issue that has caused them no shortage of headaches.

The PCs must announce by the end of the year how the review will unfold. 

"We're looking at the requirements under the act and we're putting a plan together," Higgs said recently. "We will be announcing our plans certainly within that time frame."

For francophones who worry about the premier's commitment to minority-language rights, the review of the act is a crucial test.



Alexandre Cedric Doucet, president of the Acadian Society of New Brunswick, says Higgs's handling of the review will show whether he can 'represent all New Brunswickers.' (Submitted/Alexandre Cedric Doucet)

"It's a mystery where Blaine Higgs is for the French community and for bilingualism," said Alexandre Cédric Doucet, president of the Acadian Society of New Brunswick. "The next months will be important for us, and for him to show he can represent all New Brunswickers."

Until September's election, Higgs had a minority government propped up by the People's Alliance, which wants changes to the act and how it is applied.

Doucet said now that Higgs has a majority government, the premier's own vision should become clearer.

Political scientist Stéphanie Chouinard, who studies language issues, said the mandatory 10-year review incorporated into the act is "a little bit like a flip of the coin.

"You don't know what government is going to be in power every 10 years and what their outlook on official languages will be."

'A number of tense moments' 

Early in the Higgs government's first term, it looked at weakening the requirement for bilingual ambulance paramedics, then backtracked a month later.

More recently it faced complaints that a bilingual elected official wasn't joining the unilingual premier at COVID-19 briefings to communicate with the public in French.

New Brunswick's official languages commissioner said while that wasn't legally required and simultaneous translation was available, a French-speaking elected official would ensure "balanced use" of the two languages at the briefing.



Political scientist Stéphanie Chouinard says the mandatory 10-year review incorporated into the act is 'a little bit like a flip of the coin.' (CBC)

"You're facing a government here that has had to deal with a number of tense moments and files with respect to official languages," Chouinard said. 

"If the Higgs government makes good on its promise to govern for all New Brunswickers … then it will want to look at this revision seriously." 

The society has been lobbying for the legislature to create a permanent committee on official languages, to both review the act and take on other language issues as they come up in the future.

"It would help to depoliticize the question of official languages in New Brunswick and it would help with the linguistic tensions we have," Doucet said.

It's a mystery where Blaine Higgs is for the French community and for bilingualism.
- Alexandre Cédric Doucet

Higgs hasn't committed to a committee yet nor whether its hearings would be public. "That's certainly what we're evaluating at this time," he said, adding he wants to make sure any process complies at the act.

"Then we'll look at the pros and cons of the process, based on past experiences."

The original Official Languages Act was passed in 1969. It was replaced with a new version by the PC government of Bernard Lord in 2002, following a court ruling on the bilingualism obligations of municipalities. It passed unanimously and with little controversy.

First mandatory review held in secret

A decade later when it was time for the first mandatory review, David Alward's PC government opted to hold legislative hearings in secret, despite relative calm on the language issue at the time.

Attorney-General Marie-Claude Blais said at the time that "past history" showed it was not "an easy subject" for open debate.

She was referring to language hearings in the 1980s that saw anti-French heckling and, in one case, eggs thrown at members of a commission studying bilingualism and duality. 

Doucet said that this time around, any hearings must be held in public.

"With the linguistic tensions we have in New Brunswick, we have to have a public discussion of official languages," he said.

"We've got to battle the disinformation on bilingualism. I think it's a beautiful opportunity to show some leadership, and the leadership has to start with transparency." 

Chouinard agreed. Closed-door hearings "make people wonder what you have to hide," she said. 

The 2012 hearings led to minor amendments to the act, including a clarification that associations that were given powers by the province to regulate certain professions, such as lawyers and doctors, are required to provide bilingual service.

Doucet said the society still wants to hold its own consultations before finalizing what it will ask for during the review.



In four-party negotiations in August to avert an election call, Alliance MLAs asked the province to relax the requirement that front-line employees have a 'two-plus' bilingualism classification. All four parties agreed it 'has to be looked at,' the Alliance’s Michelle Conroy said. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

In four-party negotiations in August to avert an election call, Alliance MLAs asked for the province to relax the requirement that front-line employees have a "two-plus" bilingualism classification. They wanted it reduced to a two, a lower threshold of fluency.

During the campaign, the Alliance's Michelle Conroy said "All four parties agreed that it has to be looked at" and said once the election was over, "we have something to go on." 

Alliance Leader Kris Austin wasn't available to comment on the party's stance now, and Conroy was not made available for an interview.

Doucet said he thinks the Alliance position is based on misinformation, and that would make it "a pretty good subject for the permanent committee" to look at in public hearings, even though the thresholds aren't part of the act.

Green Party Leader David Coon said Austin and Conroy must have misunderstood what other MLAs told them.

He said while members of other parties want to address complaints that the language testing system for civil service jobs is inconsistent and needs to be improved, changes to the job requirement was "the People's Alliance agenda" and nothing more. 

Doucet said the society has been told that details of the government's plan for the review could be in the speech from the throne that will open the new session of the legislature on Nov. 17. 

 

 

 

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Gina Brown
How and where can I go to show support for English only? 
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Gina Brown: In the USA ?
 
 
Nigel Spencer 
Reply to @Marc Martin:
I think she's already there, Marc!
 
 
Matt Steele
Reply to @Gina Brown: ......Call your MLA ; and call Premier Higgs office ' and let your voice be heard .
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Matt Steele: You forgot to make sure to tell her to use her real name not an alias like you are using....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Brian Robertson
The French in New Brunswick never support the right, no matter what.
The French in New Brunswick want to create an illusion of a French society that is paid for by us all.
No matter what concessions that have been made toward supporting the French language and culture over the decades, they always want more.

It's time to focus on what's good for all of us and what will unite us, not separate us.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Brian Robertson: That is not true, upper north has always been more Conservative then Liberals your just trying to fit trough your agenda.
 
 
Brian Robertson
Reply to @Marc Martin:
You are talking about Campbelltown 50 years ago, in the days of JC "Carlie" Van Horn.
Since then, the English population in that are has dropped like a stone as the French consolidated their isolation from English New Brunswick.
If that is what the French want, so be it. Just don't look to us to fund your efforts.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Brian Robertson: You need to take a look closely at the last 40 years of provincial election, the North part had Conservatives winning for years.
 
 
Brian Robertson
Reply to @Marc Martin:
The Progressive Conservatives of the last 40 years were simply Liberal clones, pandering to every identity group and ignoring the Province as a whole.
We now have finally a government that is fiscally responsible, and strong enough to resist the advocacy groups that have held hostage previous governments.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Brian Robertson: Ah ok so now they are Liberal clones...ok..you dont like being proven wrong do you ?
 
 
Brian Robertson
Reply to @Marc Martin:
You aren't listening; and you accuse me of squeezing facts to fit narratives.
And I will freely admit when I am wrong, should that day ever come.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Brian Robertson: *you accuse me of squeezing facts to fit narratives.* Is that why you said this * The Progressive Conservatives of the last 40 years were simply Liberal clones, pandering to every identity group and ignoring the Province as a whole.* ?? Yeah you admitted you were wrong for sure....
 
 
Brian Robertson
Reply to @Marc Martin:
What you use for logic escapes me.
What I stated was accurate and correct and consistent with my point.
The PCs from Richard Hatfield on were nothing more than simpering clones of the Liberals, who would genuflect to any group that represented a block of votes.
Now if you have a point, please make it, instead of playing some game of word salad and crying 'Eureka'.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hank Hanrattey
French in NB is a massive cost to us all and only benefits the few. Time to go officially English only.
 
 
Mack Leigh 
Reply to @Hank Hanrattey:
Forced "Official " Bilingualism is the largest make work project for Francophones ever to be created.... All at the expense of taxpayers as a whole.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Hank Hanrattey: How is so ? Please show me these numbers?
 
 
Billy Buckner
Reply to @Marc Martin: you are in strong denial, you enjoy the tail wagging the dog.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Billy Buckner: First you shouldn't call yourself that name...Second please show me these numbers ?
 
 
Billy Buckner
Reply to @Marc Martin: - education and health care systems that run in duality have to cost more than a single system, basic math.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Billy Buckner: Education systems is mandated across Canada in both languages the province has NO say in this. As for health care, savings would be minimal as it would only come at the expense of higher administration. Anything else?
 
 
Matt Steele
Reply to @Marc Martin: ....You are wrong as usual . Education is a provincial responsibility Canada wide ; maybe you should read the Canadian Constitution
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Matt Steele: Education is mandated by the Federal government of Canada when it comes to minorities regarding official languages. I think you should make more research.
 
 
Matt Steele
Reply to @Marc Martin: ...You are wrong ; read the Canadian Constitution . The Federal govt. has NO say over the Education system across Canada .
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @Matt Steele: Yes they do when its a language requirement.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Marc Martin: Actually it is within the jurisdiction of the province not the federal government. Go ahead as you say and do your homework.
 
 
Marc Martin
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Section 23 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the right of citizens who were educated in the minority language in a particular province to have their children educated in the minority language in publicly funded schools.[62] In practice, this guarantee means that there are publicly funded English schools in Quebec, and publicly funded French schools in the other provinces and the territories.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-task-force-guideline-confusion-1.5809888

 

Confusing COVID messages from province trouble members of all-party cabinet committee

One committee member says even he is left confused about COVID-19 restrictions after meetings

 

Isabelle Leger· CBC News· Posted: Nov 20, 2020 3:02 PM AT

 


Green Party Leader David Coon says communication about COVID-19 guidelines needs to improve. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

Two party leaders on New Brunswick's all-party cabinet committee on COVID-19 recovery say the clarity of government communication about what people are supposed to do is as poor as it's ever been.

Green Party Leader David Coon said Public Health guidelines are not being made clear to New Brunswickers. 

"One of the things that has been plaguing us, in my opinion, is the weakness in our communication," Coon said Friday when all four leaders appeared on Information Morning.

"I think probably the majority of people in the province do not actually understand what the rules are." 

Coon said he believes most New Brunswickers want to follow the province's rules, but finding clear explanations of them, in a "concise and compelling way," is not being made easy. 

Jennifer Russell, the chief medical officer of health, frequently refers people to the government of New Brunswick website, but Coon said it's not an easy site to navigate.

A lot of the information that comes out of these meetings, with the Department of Health and the committee, is like the saying of drinking fire from a water hose
- People's Alliance leader Kris Austin

"It's kind of a mishmash to understand what's what, and even what some of the language means," he said. 

The communication problem is serious, Coon said, and needs fixing.

He called on the Blaine Higgs government to create a provincewide campaign of information that would reach people through radio and other platforms.

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin agreed with Coon, saying even he has been left in the dark at times. 


People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin says he has been left confused by COVID-19 guidlines. (CBC )

"A lot of the information that comes out of these meetings with the Department of Health and the committee is like the saying … 'drinking fire from a water hose,'" said Austin. 

"The information changes a lot because it's a fluid situation and, because of that, people are confused. I mean I sit on the committee and, I'll be honest, I leave and have confusion about some of these rules." 

Austin said communication directed by Public Health needs to be simplified and as consistent as possible. 

More confusion? Higgs gives his take

Russell and the premier have recently delivered inconsistenct information about the Public Health guidelines, the committee members said, pointing to the guidelines for gatherings.

Russell has said New Brunswickers need to find their "safe six," while Higgs appears to have said indoor gatherings of 20 people or under are all right.

 

Premier Blaine Higgs (Government of New Brunswick)

CBC's Terry Seguin addressed the topic during the interview, asking Higgs what exactly the guideline is.

"It certainly is the limit that's put in a measure that is out there is 20," Higgs said. "I mean her personal recommendation is to keep it smaller than that, get it as small as you can.

"And I would suggest she's right, keep it as small as you can, but we haven't made that a rule, but we've made it a rule that you have to follow multiple bubbles."

"If Public Health wanted to put that in the final rule, we'll certainly look at doing that. That can be confusing, I understand." 

Higgs said gatherings of 20 are allowed in zones in the yellow phase, but the Moncton region's move back into orange forces people to limit gatherings to family-only, with six being a reasonable number.

 

Roger Melanson, Interim leader of the Official Opposition, says Orange Phase should be taken seriously. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Orange phase should be warning sign

Roger Melanson, the interim leader of the Official Opposition, urged New Brunswickers to see Moncton entering phase orange for the second time in a month as a wakeup call. 

"The virus doesn't care who you are or where you live or what your actions are. It's here and anyone can get infected and certainly infect others."

He stressed the importance of following the one-bubble household rule in Moncton and staying at home if possible.


Dr. Jennifer Russell, the chief medical officer of health, and Premier Blaine Higgs will hold a COVID-19 briefing Friday afternoon at 3:30. (Government of New Brunswick file photo)

The committee has also been working on the issue of essential workers travelling in and out of the province who initially were not required to self-isolate for 14 days like other New Brunswick travellers.

Weeks ago, the province modified the quarantine required for people coming home after working elsewhere in Canada, telling them they could self-monitor for up to 14 days so long as they agreed to receive three COVID-19 tests in that period. 

Higgs said his government was forced to tighten the rule again, however, because some workers weren't following the less-harsh guidelines. 

He said certain workers made contact with 30 to 40 people after receiving one negative COVID-19 test in the early days of their return home, only to develop symptoms days later. 

"We needed to tighten it down further, that became evident," said Higgs. "We've been trying to work with this and keep people moving as much as normal, but it wasn't working." 

Higgs said he still expects to see some repercussions from people not following the less-harsh restrictions. 

With files from Information Morning Fredericton

 

 

 

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David Amos 
Welcome back to the circus
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Is that all you've got ? So passe' !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Terry Tibbs   
Reply to @David Amos:
You are being more than generous, to me it appears to be a hybrid situation, a mating (or meeting) of Monty Python and the Gong show. 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-saint-john-orange-level-super-spreader-1.5810592

 

COVID-19 'superspreaders' contributed to Saint John outbreak, says medical officer

About 300 people self-isolating, 'many' of them health-care workers

 

Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon· CBC News· Posted: Nov 20, 2020 7:48 PM AT

 


Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health for the province, said the Saint John region is seeing COVID-19 transmission in community settings, including recreational facilities, health-care and long-term care institutions. (CBC)

A COVID-19 "superspreader" event contributed to a doubling of confirmed cases in the Saint John health region within a day, says the province's chief medical officer of health.

And there are some "superspreaders" involved in some of the 14 cases now in the region, Zone 2, with the seven new cases announced on Friday, said Dr. Jennifer Russell.

Public Health and the federal Department of Health don't define superspreader, but it's "a person who transmits an infectious disease or agent to an unexpectedly or unusually large number of other people," according to the Oxford dictionary.

Being at the peak of infectiousness and performing an activity, such as talking, singing or breathing heavily from exercise in a poorly ventilated, crowded space for a prolonged period, can contribute to superspreader events, according to infectious disease specialists.

About 300 people in Saint John are self-isolating.

"Many" of them are health-care workers, although Russell said she couldn't say how many during a news conference in Fredericton, when she announced the region will be bumped back to the stricter orange phase of COVID-19 recovery, as of midnight.

She also didn't reveal where the health-care workers are employed, but an outbreak has been declared at Shannex Tucker Hall, a 90-bed nursing home in the city's north end, after a single case was confirmed on Thursday.

Shannex confirmed on its website that it is an employee who tested positive but did not say whether it is a health-care worker. 

"We have no other active cases of COVID-19 at this time," the notice states.

More than 400 residents and staff from Tucker Hall and the other nearby Shannex facility, Parkland Saint John, were expected to be tested Friday and contact tracing is underway, Russell told reporters.

"We are expecting more cases to pop up," she said. 

"With the contact tracing that we've done and the type of contacts that we have found and those people who are self-isolating as a result, we expect many of them to become positive."

Return to red level possible

Premier Blaine Higgs warned he may need to move the region to the most restrictive red level "if we can't get the numbers under control quickly."

The Moncton health region, Zone 1, had 24 confirmed cases when it was rolled back to the orange level on Thursday and 21 cases when it previously returned to orange in October.

Although Saint John's case count is lower, Russell said the same triggers have been met. Those include a doubling of cases within six days, a certain number of health-care workers being involved, and the fact that people have not been following public health protocols, such as wearing a mask, maintaining a physical distance of two metres and keeping their close contact numbers low.

The health system is at risk and keeping people safe is at risk and lives are at risk.
- Blaine Higgs, premier

"This is a virus that spreads exponentially if left unchecked," she said.

If the current 14 cases double each day, cases would hit nearly 500 in less than a week.

Of those, 20 per cent would be "very ill," 15 per cent would require hospitalization, five per cent would require intensive care, and "a certain percentage" of those will die, said Russell.

"So we know the math, we know the modelling, and we know how important it is that everybody do what they need to do immediately to get this under control so we can go back to the yellow phase as soon as possible," she said.

Higgs urged all New Brunswickers to take the situation seriously. 

"We have seen areas where there have been fundraisers, social events, household and other gatherings with way too many people, no social distancing and no face masks," he said.

"Too often people are gathering with one group at one night and completely a different group another night. This has led to the situation we are currently in."

Enforcement will be stepped up in the Saint John and Moncton regions, Higgs said.

Police officers, peace officers with the Department of Justice and Public Safety, Public Health inspectors and WorkSafeNB inspectors are in both regions to make sure the rules are being followed. People who refuse to comply with provisions of the mandatory order will face penalties.

"We will never catch everyone, nor will we try," Higgs said. "But we really want people to pay attention and help us here because the health system is at risk and keeping people safe is at risk and lives are at risk."

Saint John EMO activated

The City of Saint John has activated its Emergency Management Organization. EMO continues to monitor the situation and follow the province's advice and recommendations, it said in a news release.

Mayor Don Darling said he has been pleased with the "immediate and proactive action" taken by the community over the past few days, and the "support and understanding from residents."

"Now is the time to show how resilient we are, and how we can work together in the best interest of our community," he said in a statement.

"We have seen other areas of our province successfully move in and back out of the orange phase and we know we can do the same."

Darling encouraged residents to protect their mental well-being as well as their physical well-being by getting fresh air and exercise whenever possible, maintaining virtual connections, and checking in on neighbours, family and friends.

More possible exposures

Public Health announced three additional potential public exposures in Saint John on Friday:

  • At Rocky's Sports Bar, 7 Market Square, between 10:30 p.m. on Nov. 13 and 12:30 a.m. on Nov. 14 and between 10:30 p.m. on Nov. 14 and 1:30 a.m. on Nov.15. (The bar had posted its own advisory on social media on Thursday.)
  • At Big Tide Brewing Company, 47 Princess St., on Nov. 16, between 12:30 p.m. and 2 p.m.
  • At Java Moose, 84 Prince William St., on Nov. 16, between 2 p.m and 2:30 p.m.

People who visited these locations during these periods should self-monitor for symptoms for 14 days afterward, the estimated incubation period for the respiratory disease.

If symptoms develop, they should self-isolate and take a self-assessment test online or call Tele-Care 811 to get tested.


Water Street Dinner Theatre posted its own advisory on Facebook, saying it was advised Thursday afternoon that someone who attended the Nov. 13 production "recently" tested positive for COVID-19.

"As a precautionary measure we have discontinued operations for 14 days at the direction of the department of public health," and cancelled performances scheduled for Nov. 20, 21 and 27, with hopes of resuming operations on Nov. 28, it said.

"We are working closely with public health officials to ensure that all guests in attendance that evening are notified of the possible exposure.⁣"⁣

On Thursday, Public Health advised anyone who visited the Five and Dime Bar, at 34 Grannan St., between 12:30 a.m. and 2:30 a.m. on Nov. 14, or Freddie's Pizza, at 27 Charlotte St., between 2:30 a.m. and 3 a.m., to self-monitor for symptoms for 14 days. 

The Saint John Sea Dogs also announced a staff member tested positive, resulting in at least five hockey games being postponed.

The infected individual, who had not travelled outside the Atlantic bubble since before Aug. 30, is sick and in isolation, the organization said in a news release Friday.

No one else has tested positive, but testing is ongoing, the release said.

All players are in confinement as well as "the majority" of staff.

2 nursing homes close to visitors

Two Saint John nursing homes — Loch Lomond Villa and Rocmaura Nursing Home — announced Friday they have closed to visitors as a precaution until further notice.

In a Facebook post, Loch Lomond CEO Cindy Donovan cited concerns about the ongoing COVID-19 outbreak in the Moncton area and "a number of possible exposures" in the Saint John region.

"Please understand that this decision was not made lightly," she wrote. "We hope these restrictions will be short-lived, but due to the vulnerability of your loved ones, we must do everything we can to keep COVID-19 out of our home."

Virtual visits will still be possible via Zoom or FaceTime in the interim, she added.

Rocmaura's executive director Sheana Mohra cited "the evolving situation in our province and our region" for the decision and thanked everyone for their support.

New cases

The seven new cases in the Saint John region include:

  • One person aged 20 to 29.
  • Three people aged 40 to 49.
  • One person aged 50 to 59.
  • One person aged 60 to 69.
  • One person 70 to 79.

Two new cases were also confirmed in Moncton Friday — one person under 19 and one person aged 20 to 29.

New Brunswick has a total of 51 active cases. One person is in hospital.

Symptoms to watch for

Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included:

  • A fever above 38 C.

  • A new cough or worsening chronic cough.

  • Sore throat.

  • Runny nose.

  • Headache.

  • New onset of fatigue, muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell.

  • Difficulty breathing.

In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

 

 

 
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David Amos
Content disabled 
Methinks David Coon and his buddy Kris Austin are even more confused as they are no doubt still drinking fire from a water hose in the dark this evening N'esy Pas?


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Matt Steele
Do these " super spreaders " come from the essential worker class who can travel in and out of the Atlantic Bubble at will , and the govt. gives them a free pass with a wink and a nod ?
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Matt Steele:
Do you really *think* they will tell you, having to admit to one and all, that their measures are really ineffective and faulty?
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Matt Steele: I blame the french
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Matt Steele: Who you forgot this time. Slipping?
 
 
Gary Gillespie
Reply to @Matt Steele: I think you should consider "super spreader" = "we just don't know where it came from". Typical government-speak.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks many French folks and Higgy et al know by now that you are a super spreader of bs for the Fake Left N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Al Clark 
Hunkerdown higgy won't close the bars.

PURE.

GENIUS.

 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Al Clark:
Maybe, once he puts his mind to it, he will decide to do it, 6-10 weeks later.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Higgy and Clark deserve each other N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Ok, so you clearly have a source, no I don't want to know who it is, what I want to know is: will there be a penalty?
The claim is 300+ off work (?), fresh air inspecting, are we expected to suck it up, or will there be a penalty imposed for these actions?
Otherwise there is very simply no point to the rest of us being careful.
 
 
Buford Wilson 
(Covid illness is their penalty, Terry.)
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Buford Wilson:
No Buford T Justice, it seems that following the rules, like a good little dog, doing my best to play the game, while others don't , is becoming my penalty.
Each and every time I find myself wearing a mask, avoiding people I feel like talking to, and limiting my travel, I am starting to be getting annoyed, very annoyed. Very soon now that feeling of being annoyed will be replaced by anger. I do not *think* I am alone in this, and Buford, your hero Blame Higgs does not want an angry public, trust me.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur
 

 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-officials-to-provide-update-on-two-regional-outbreaks-1.5811335

 

New Brunswick reports 23 cases of COVID-19, new single-day record

Briefing follows 'superspreader' event in Saint John region

 

Alexandre Silberman· CBC News· Posted: Nov 21, 2020 11:58 AM AT 

 


New Brunswick officials provide update on COVID-19 after moving Moncton, Saint John regions back to orange phase. 0:00

New Brunswick officials announced 23 cases of COVID-19 in the province Saturday, setting a new single-day high since the start of the pandemic. 

The new cases include 16 in the Saint John region (Zone 2), and six in the Moncton region (Zone 1) and one in the Fredericton region (Zone 3).

There are now 71 active cases in the province. One person is in the hospital related to the virus.

Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer, said New Brunswickers are facing a situation which can quickly turn "serious" without immediate action.

"We need a renewed commitment to slow the spread of COVID-19, and we need it now," she said.

The uptick in new cases is the most since Oct. 20, when officials reported 20 new cases as the Campbellton region grappled with an outbreak.

Both the Moncton region (Zone 1) and the Saint John region (Zone 2) were rolled back to tighter restrictions under the orange recovery phase this week.

Entire province could go orange

Premier Blaine Higgs indicated the entire province could move to orange-level restrictions if the rise in cases continues.

He said the current increase is a "reality check" that the virus exists in the province. 

"We are now in our own bubble in New Brunswick," he said. "And that bubble is about to burst."

Nine new cases were announced on Friday, including seven in the Saint John region.

Public Health also declared an outbreak at Shannex Tucker Hall, a nursing home in Saint John. 

Higgs said he is saddened by the possibility of failing in efforts to contain the virus "at the last minute."

"The threat we have in front of us right now is the entire province could go to orange phase," he said.

Health Minister Dorothy Shepherd urged New Brunswickers to report COVID-19 rule-breakers through the province's tip line.

She said if efforts to contain the virus don't improve, regions could see tighter restrictions.

"If we don't change our behaviours and our actions today, as of this minute, that is where we are headed," Shepherd said.

Return to red level possible

Higgs warned Friday that if people don't reduce gatherings and follow Public Health rules, they could see further restrictions.

There are "at least" 600 people self-isolating in New Brunswick, including about 300 in the Saint John region, Russell said Friday.

She said a COVID-19 "superspreader" event contributed to doubling the number of confirmed cases in that region within a day.

Saint John, Moncton under tighter restrictions

New Brunswickers are advised to avoid all non-essential travel in and out of the orange zones.

Police officers, peace officers and Public Health inspectors will be in Zones 1 and 2 to monitor orange rules and issue fines as needed.

Residents of the Saint John and Moncton regions are now required to maintain single-household bubbles. This can be extended to caregivers or an immediate family member who lives alone and needs support.

Masks are also mandatory in all indoor and outdoor public places in the orange zones.

Close-contact personal services and entertainment venues can remain open under operational plans.

Potential public exposure has been announced at Saint John restaurants, bars, and a dinner theatre.

Vito's Restaurant announced on Facebook that an employee at its Rothesay Avenue location has tested positive for COVID-19. 

The location is closed until further notice and is undergoing cleaning.

To all our valued customers and friends,

An employee at our Rothesay Avenue location has tested positive for Covid 19. This staff member worked Tuesday, Nov. 17th and Wednesday, Nov. 18th. We want to assure our customers that all staff have been following all guidelines set in our Operational Safe Work Plan.

We currently have not heard from Public Health, however we want to be proactive in notifying all of our customers. We will be implementing our stringent cleaning policies, however we will be closing the Rothesay Avenue location in East Saint John, effective immediately until further notice. Our Uptown and KV locations will remain open at this time.

The safety of our staff and customers is of the utmost importance. We have asked our staff to follow Public Health protocols and contact 8-1-1 for information. We will be in close contact with Public Health, and as we are provided more information, we will continue to share more updates.

We appreciate your patience and support during these challenging times.

Take care of yourselves and one another and if you have any symptoms please call 8-1-1.

Gatherings in orange phase

The province also rolled out new rules for gatherings:

  • Residents must stay within a single-household bubble.

  • No informal indoor gatherings beyond this single household bubble are permitted.

  • Outdoor gatherings with physical distancing of 25 people or fewer are permitted.   

  • Formal gatherings of up to 25 people allowed for weddings, funerals and faith-based services.

  • Faith venues may hold services with up to 50 people, but masks are mandatory. 

  • Restaurant dining rooms can remain open, but a single-household bubble must be maintained.  

A full list of the rules under the orange phase is on the government's website. 

 

Premier Blaine Higgs and Public Health announced on Friday that Saint John is returning to the orange phase of recovery. 3:45

What to do if you have a symptom

People concerned they might have COVID-19 symptoms can take a self-assessment test online

Public Health says symptoms shown by people with COVID-19 have included:

  • A fever above 38 C.

  • A new cough or worsening chronic cough.

  • Sore throat.

  • Runny nose.

  • Headache.

  • New onset of fatigue, muscle pain, diarrhea, loss of sense of taste or smell.

  • Difficulty breathing.

In children, symptoms have also included purple markings on the fingers and toes.

People with one of those symptoms should:

  • Stay at home.

  • Call Tele-Care 811 or their doctor.

  • Describe symptoms and travel history.

  • Follow instructions.

About the Author

Alexandre Silberman is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. He can be reached at alexandre.silberman@cbc.ca

 

 

369 Comments 

 

 


Terry Tibbs
On today's menu: a Higgs sponsored Gong show, a dash of Monty Python silly, and for desert some bumbler pie : Bon Appétit.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Welcome back to the circus
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: of which you are the ring leader
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: so how long does "Methinks" they'll shut down this account on your as well?? Hahaha 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
James Smythe
Let’s call this what it is finally: Fascism under the guise of a health crisis, over a virus that 99.9% of people recover from, and some of you are still clamouring for more concentration camps, more fines, more authoritarianism. The huge portion of the brainwashed population makes me sicker than covid.
Reply to @James Smythe: Based on recent activity some those people are confirmed recently deceased NB residents. Somebody is running a psychological operations against the people and political class of NB.
 
 
Brandon Hoffman
Reply to @James Smythe: it's sad really,they want to ruin our country and whenever you question them the say "if you don't like it, move to another country"
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @James Smythe: Methinks the sheople get the governments they deserve N'esy Pas?
 
 
Brandon Hoffman
Reply to @David Amos: the average east coasters faith and trust in government is insane!
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
What's a voter to do? No matter who you pick the outcome is stupid.
If you printed up T shirts: "I voted for stupid" they would be universal.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I only voted once in my whole life and that was the only time I was permitted to vote for myself. In the "mean" time since 2004 I tried 7 times to get the Sheople to think for themselves until the light dawned on my marblehead in 2019 that apathy will always rule the day until it simply doesn't matter anymore if they did. Hence in my latter days I sit back and watch the circus and find a fun little poking a few holes in the stuffed shirts of the clowns while preparing my last 3 lawsuits 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @James Smythe: Let's call it what it is as you say.

People who value individual rights over the good of society causing all sorts of chaos and their refusal to go along with recommended actions driving numbers and death and prolonging restrictions

This is a health care crisis not the guise of one

The guise of one would be nice So many people would be alive who are not

Have you ever considered how much everyone who posts like you sounds the same and thus you might be in the ... 
 
 
Dan Stewart
Reply to @James Smythe: Ahh, nothing like the rantings of a denier to bring crazys out...
 
 
Kis Brink
Reply to @Brandon Hoffman: Possibly because they look at other provinces and make a data based conclusion that overall their govts have managed better than others.

BC was once in that position but months of valuing the economy over stepping back when numbers were closer to these really was an error.

The Atlantic Bubble gets mentioned in international press so does that until late summer BC had an enviable track record and now look?

There's a reason our Premier wanted to secure his majority well before now sigh 
 
 
James Smythe
Reply to @Kis Brink: Found the paid shill fear Mongerer on the govt payroll. There are 5 health care workers in my immediate family, and all of them have said this is the least hours they’ve ever worked in their lives due to the lack of patients and people being too scared to go to the hospital. They’ve had lots of other things to say about the inaccuracy of the tests as well, but you’ve already fallen for the official narrative so there’s no point in trying to educate you further about the massive hoax this entire pandemic actually is.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson
Bring on the lockdown. Nb entering phase .
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
Defcon 1
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Surely you jest
 
 
Brandon Hoffman
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: computers off at 7 pm, comrade! Covid comes through the internet at night!
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Brandon Hoffman: If that were true your antivirus software would take care of it.
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
For those of us who have no need of antivirus software (Linux), after supper we P on the wires a little bit to get an extra kb/sec, or two, keeps the covid at bay.
 
 
Tom Simpson
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: We need to end the lockdowns.
 
 
Kis Brink
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Yes the countries that reacted to even a few cases are the ones doing the best. That's not even new so hope your govt doesn't do the trying to keep as much happening as possible or it will look like BC in a month
 
 
Kis Brink
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I've considered making a script that protects me from Covid minimizers and those who clearly don't come from families that endured very hard times from how they see not being able to do exactly what they want

Anti-pandemic minimizers doesn't exactly have the same ring to it though
 
 
Tom Simpson
Reply to @Kis Brink: Better than being a branch covidian. Open your eyes.
 
 
Ray Bungay
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Grin, thank you! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Justin Gunther
The red lights have always been on nonstop. We know what "superspreading" means. So, what has changed in the past couple of weeks in particular?

*Crickets*
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Justin Gunther: what do you care you don't work the only people affected by this is the working class.. not the rich or socially assisted. You'll survive!
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Cool story bro.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Justin Gunther: I see when someone says something in response of value you revert to an Amos answer. Sshhh.. your intelligence is showing
 
 
PHIL INNIS
Reply to @Ray Oliver: howbwas your nap Ray?
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Absolutely. You absolutely must associate me with as many "local scoundrals" as possible because you are an expert at deploying communication strategies and nobody can see what you're doing.
Please find another hobby. Maybe you could pick up an extra part time job or something.
 
 
PHIL INNIS
Reply to @Justin Gunther: ohhhh Raymond is gon be maaaaad
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: That's the plan, Stan. LOL
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: You his bunk mate at the shelter?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Justin Gunther: oh everyone can see what I'm doing im well aware of that. You 2 are a nuisance. Meant for one another. In a padded room
 
 
PHIL INNIS
Reply to @Ray Oliver: how many times did you stop in the middle of the aisle at Costco this week?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: Is that code for something? Maybe your partner here can decipher it.. I'll wait
 
 
Georges Saint Yves
Reply to @Justin Gunther: the mask mandate.....213 since Oct. 8th when the mandate came into place. Prior to that there were 24 cases as of Oct. 8th.
 
 
Kis Brink
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Social assistance is so minimal that to think people aren't impacted given all the additional help has gone to those unable to work isn't really realistic

Plus govts already looking to save money are in some places looking to make the not enough to live on even worse

The cost of this pandemic is massive so the worst off will be those who cannot work as those on social assistance who can have options but govt prone to forget those on fixed incomes will just carry on with that as it's hard to get re-elected if you raise taxes.

Populations largely invisible to society at large are badly impacted .

I'd love to be able to work.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Justin Gunther: DEFINE "local scoundrals"
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos: I'll do it for him "you" . Blog that, ya scoundrel
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Harvey York Ray Oliver, Al Clark: Trust that you 3 stooges may consider it already done Furthermore methinks many would agree that you dudes and the RCMP and their many cop pals deserve each other and the same apparently holds true for your new buddy Justin Gunther as well N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Aww did your little phone date with him the other day not go as hoped? His wild tales didn't jive with your totally accurate assessment of all that goes on in our little province? Call me ill help ya thru it
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Good job Mr Higgs. Go ahead, threaten us with "red", that should fix it.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Higgy and his "Peace Officers" are drooling at the prospect of all the fines they will serve on their clients if they do N'esy Pas?








Jos Allaire
Higgs does not look so great anymore, now does he?
 
 
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @Jos Allaire: what has any of this got to do with Higgs? That’s just silly.
 
 
Darryl Hill
Reply to @Jos Allaire: I thought he was awful to begin with, but you can't argue with the ignorant.
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison:
It has everything to do with Mr Higgs. He has been bumbling about for the past month, as cases have climbed outside of the province, yet no travel restrictions, and fully maintaining exceptions to isolation. Thank you Mr Higgs your planning and forethought are impeccable.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: ell he sure took the credit before the election when things looked hunky dory!
 
 
Jos Allaire
Furthermore, Higgs won his slim majority on his non-deserved popularity for the Covid state of the province and on no platform whatsoever. Now he's putting the hatchet in everything without a mandate to do so.
 
 
Jay Miller
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: The All Party Committee and the minority government status kept him on his guard, and he was certainly not as cocky as he is now - we all know who is running the show now from the tower in Saint John! A majority government did not help him or our province - we have seen it since the election!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks everybody knows Higgy never looked great to me N'esy Pas? 
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: man would I ever pay good money to see you in charge and your handling of this. A community spread outbreak was inevitable. Nobody does it like you though eh???
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks Higgs is thinking its probably never been a better time to possess a Medicare Card Nesy Pas??
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Ray Oliver: his mess a 2 chits card no good? HA has no hmo? HOG ?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Al Clark: Maybe if he had have found Whitey Bulger that time he was "doing some light bounty hunting" for him he could've taken his fake alias one.. problem solved.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire
"Faith venues may hold services with up to 50 people, but masks are mandatory." - Based on faith and not science, totally useless and not necessary! The same goes for Canabis NB and NB liquor.    
 
 
Mary Smith 
Reply to @Jos Allaire: I agree with churches, we can go back to having "drive in" services or live stream services (and hopefully churches will take that step upon themselves, even if it's not mandated, because they want to keep their church goers safe). 
But some people need cannabis (like say to deal with pain) and liquor (if an alcohol goes cold turkey, they can suffer serious and sometimes deadly withdrawals). I would say that those businesses should arrange curb side pick up only. Or at least highly encourage customers to do curb side pick up.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks the plot thickens and now the pesky little virus is in the old folks home where my 97 year old very Conservative Mother lives and no doubt Higgyet al know all about it by now N'esy Pas?
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Mary Smith: So much for the government promoting this scourges on society.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Amen
 
 
Winston Gray
Reply to @Jos Allaire: They are the scourge in your eyes, not in everyone's. To some, religion is the true scourge of society.
That's what free speech is for, and freedom. If you view something as a scourge you are not required to participate in it, but oppression is when YOUR view of something as a scourge removes MY freedom to choose.
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos:Mimi is here....
 
 
Joseph Godin
Reply to @Jos Allaire: That's funny, that's what God said about you, "Totally useless and not necessar"', but hoopla da poopla there you are! I guess ya gotta take the bad with the good.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Joseph Godin: Then let him come down here and tell me face to face. He never did to no one.
 
 
Joseph Godin
Reply to @Jos Allaire: A knock on your door, answer it.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Joseph Godin: I do not hear things, like you do. Better get checked before you go Raymond!
 
 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/potential-covid-19-exposure-sites-in-new-brunswick-1.5811365

  

Here are the potential COVID-19 exposure sites in New Brunswick

CBC News has compiled a list of active exposure notices in the province

 

CBC News· Posted: Nov 21, 2020 12:52 PM AT

 


New Brunswick Public Health has announced possible exposure to COVID-19 and facilities in Moncton and Saint John, including gyms, stores, bars, restaurants and on flights. (The Canadian Press/NIAID-RML via AP)

New Brunswick Public Health has announced possible exposure to COVID-19 at locations in Moncton and Saint John, including gyms, stores, bars, restaurants and on flights.

Anyone who visited the following businesses during the identified times should self-monitor for symptoms for 14 days.

Should any COVID-19 symptoms develop they are directed to self-isolate and take the self-assessment online to schedule a test.

Moncton

  • Fit 4 Less at 165 Main St. on Nov. 6-12, at various times between 5 p.m. and midnight. See the full list on the Public Health website.

  • GoodLife Fitness at Moncton Junction Village Gym on Nov. 6, between 8-9:30 a.m. and 7-8:30 p.m. Potential public exposure was also reported on Nov. 9, between 8:30-10 p.m.

  • Aldo Shoes at Moncton Champlain Mall on Nov. 6-10 at various times between 9:30 a.m. and 7:30 p.m.

  • CEPS Louis-J. Robichaud fitness room at 40 Antonine-Maillet Ave on Nov. 6, 9, 10 and 12 at various times in the evening from 5:15-7:30 p.m.

  • Tandoori Zaika Cuisine and Bar at 196 Robinson St. on Nov. 8, between 1-2 a.m.

  • Keg Steakhouse and Bar at 576 Main St. on Nov. 17, between 7:45-8:30 p.m.

Flights into Moncton:

  • Air Canada Flight 8954 on Nov. 15 from Winnipeg to Toronto, arrived at 8:16 p.m.

  • Air Canada Flight 8918 on Nov. 15 from Toronto to Moncton, arrived at 11:43 p.m.

  • Air Canada Flight 0992 on Nov. 7 from Mexico City to Toronto, arrived at 7:20 p.m.

  • Air Canada Flight 8918 on Nov. 7 from Toronto to Moncton, arrived at 11:43 p.m.

Saint John

  • Five and Dime Bar at 34 Granna St. on Nov. 14, between 12:30 to 2:30 a.m

  • Freddie's Pizza at 27 Charlotte St. on Nov. 14, between 2:30 to 3 a.m.

  • Big Tide Brewing Company at 47 Princess St. on Nov. 16, between 12:30 to 2 p.m.

  • Java Moose at 84 Prince William St. Nov. 16, between 2 to 2:30 p.m.

  • Rocky's Sports Bar at 7 Market Square on Nov. 13, between 10:30 p.m. to 12:30 a.m. Potential public exposure was also reported on Nov. 14 between 10:30 p.m. and 1:30 a.m.

 

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26 Comments

 


David Amos
For what its worth:
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I always thought the age of onset of the one you have was around 20ish.. nesy pas?
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: ha ! Someone's snuck into Dave's and is on his pc ! Naysay paw ;-)
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Al Clark: Hopefully they're in his bubble or maybe "Higgy" will have to send some of his police state to hand him a big fine!
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Or take his tricycle !
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Welcome back to the circus

Methinks you must have been very busy baking many butter tarts for your buddy Cardy and the other clowns to consume as they watch this weekend's events put their ring master Higgy's fancy blue knickers in quite a knot N'esy Pas??
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You are included in the grouping who are totally unaffected by this whole thing economically. Your cheques won't stop rolling in, no lay offs or stress riding the system. So relax, go back to sleep. Someone's couch is calling! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Some folks are not playing by the rules. Time to close down the fitness studios for the duration of the pandemic. Clearly the ones in Moncton are not playing by the rules.
 
 
James Smythe
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: right, because staying in shape is so bad for our health. It’s almost as if obesity isn’t the single largest comorbidity.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @James Smythe: Well at least you are consistent in being a denier of the impacts of Covid-19. The realization that you are wrong must be terrible. This issue has nothing to do with staying in shape. You don't need the gym for that. Keep on trying
 
 
James Smythe
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: The only undeniable impacts are to the economy and already massive wealth inequality, the 0.1% fatality rate is hardly statistically significant compared to other illnesses. The government overreaction and overreach is the cause of all the problems, not the “virus” itself.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @James Smythe: James and again you jump to a stat that no one else does. The reason the rate is as low as it is, is a direct result of the lock-down that mitigates the spread. Less spread, less hospitalization, less hospitalization, less ICU patients, less ICU patients less death. Why is that so hard to understand. Personally we need a more strict series of lock-downs to deal with this second phase otherwise Jan will be even worse. Hope you decided to come back and join the rest of us, all the stats are meaningless at this point just like comparisons to other illnesses. The issue here is the ability of the virus to spread with exponential growth in infections.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @James Smythe: Well put
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rick Firth
Time to close these businesses down and any others where someone comes out as infected..
 
 
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Rick Firth: Why don't you take care of your own house, Rick? It is your end of things that is failing miserably and objectively.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Rick Firth: Don't waste any time responding to him. He has no house, no work, a few personalities and we all pay for him to exist. Yet he comes on here to spew wild talk of things he knows Zero about!
 

Al Clark
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Like chemtrails for instance ;-) 
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Al Clark: Just one of thousands of examples. He can't even generate anyone to engage in a civil conversation because 99.9% of us have no sweet clue what he's talking about.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to Ray Oliver, Al Clark, Justin Gunther: Methinks many would agree that you 3 stooges deserve each other N'esy Pas? 








 

Parrsboro residents given until January to decide how to pay for cost overrun on sewer project

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"Doesn't mean we can't try," said Scott. "But I'm not holding out a lot of hope."


Methinks that a very interesting thing for a former Attorney General to say 14 very long years after I ran against him N'esy Pas?

 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/parrsboro-cumberland-county-sewer-project-overrun-cost-1.5809570

 

Parrsboro residents given until January to decide how to pay for cost overrun on sewer project

'An extra $345 a year ... on top of all their other bills, is a large sum of money'

 

Pam Berman· CBC News· Posted: Nov 22, 2020 6:00 AM AT 

 


The Municipality of the County of Cumberland is asking residents of Parrsboro to pay for a $4.4-million overrun on a new sewer project, which is not sitting well with many residents. (Google Streetview)

The Municipality of the County of Cumberland is asking residents of Parrsboro, N.S., to decide by early January how they want to pay for a $4.4-million cost overrun on a sewer project in the community.

The choices for now are a $4,900 lump-sum payment or $345 annually for 20 years.

A recent letter from the municipality has upset people, according to Lloyd Smith, who was a candidate in the October municipal election.

"Parrsboro consists of seniors trying to keep their houses," said Smith. "An extra $345 a year on top of their sewer bills, on top of all their other bills, is a large sum of money."

The choice is also not sitting well with many people in the area because they believe unnecessary extensions drove up the cost of the project.

"They put people on that did not need to be put on," said Dawn McCully, "We all have functioning [septic systems] where I live. If we have to we'll move because this is just ridiculous."

'There was no consultation, there was no heads-up'

In 2019, Parrsboro residents were given a $957 sewage charge on their property tax bills without any warning — roughly $650 more than the normal amount.

McCully has a new sewer line going by her house but the house is not connected.

Ottawa required that a new treatment plant and sewer lines be constructed in Parrsboro by 2020. But Smith said the original project estimated just over 200 sewer customers.

"Now the municipality is saying they have more than 400," said Smith. "There was extra pipe put in the ground and I don't know why. It's irresponsible."

McCully and many of her neighbours believe the entire cost overrun should be shared by everyone who lives in Cumberland County and not just Parrsboro residents.

"There was no consultation, there was no heads-up," said McCully. "They just went ahead with an expansion and they had to know that somebody was going to have to pay for it."

Before the new sewage collection and treatment system was built, sewage flowed into the harbour and nearby waterways. (Google Streetview)

The issue was raised at the November county council meeting. Murray Scott, the newly elected mayor, said a review of the project is underway.

"We've asked for all the documents around what happened," said Scott. "How large was the project originally? Did it grow? How did it grow?"

Scott said municipal finance officials are also looking into whether any other repayment options can be offered to residents.

He does not believe Cumberland County can get any more financial help from the provincial or federal governments because the project is completed.

"Doesn't mean we can't try," said Scott. "But I'm not holding out a lot of hope."

 

 

34 Comments

 


David Amos
"Doesn't mean we can't try," said Scott. "But I'm not holding out a lot of hope."

Methinks that a very interesting thing for a former Attorney General to say 14 very long years after I ran against him N'esy Pas?
 
 
Thomas Wayne
Reply to @David Amos: nuts
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Thomas Wayne: So you say
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Donald Forbes
This whole debacle with the sewar project is absolutely shameful. Cumberland County official painted a rosy picture of how beneficial it would be for Parrsboro to be dissolved such as easier accessibility to funding for projects and my favourite lower taxes; however that’s not what happened here. Resident of our town have been treated like second class citizens. A source familiar with the precious council told me the funding was almost complete to built the sewar plant and hook up the existing users to it; however, as soon as Cumberland County took control, the entire scope of the project was changed and doubled in size resulting in the 4.4 million cost overrun of the project. There was no consultation with any residents and it is therefore reprehensible to lay this overage on us. The majority of the people living here are on fixed incomes (CPP/OAS) and are barely making it. It is disgusting to think that some level of government can’t step in fix this disaster. It is absolutely shameful that these notices with our “2” options of payment are due in January.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Donald Forbes: Hmmm
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
tony thomas
it is amazing that elected officials have no problem mandating to spend others money, even more amazing is that companies providing those services are hand in pocket with those same elected officials when it comes to exceeding the agreed upon contract price. Initial prices are always inflated for the work asked for when any government is involved then there is always cost overruns (often with a wink, wink, nudge , nudge agreement between the elected official and the contractor). The public is simply presented with the overrun on an all ready over inflated bill after the fact and told pay up. Time for elected officials to be held financially responsible for any funds paid for work not originally agreed upon by the people paying the bills. These elected officials have treated public funds like a credit card that mommy and daddy will pay. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @tony thomas: Methinks the problem is the same in every jurisdiction worldwide and no public official will ever admit it for obvious reasons N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Thomas Wayne
The whole thing stinks...
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Thomas Wayne: Yet you say I am nuts?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
siller will
Same old Song and Dance Citizens Get Shafted,,,,,,The People from Parrsboro are getting Royal screwing From the Cumberland Council ,,,,I Hope the Parrsboro Citizens stand Firm and Refuse to Pay for the Council's Mistakes There is going to be lots of Hard ship for people with low income sounds like Mr Scott the Mayor is not going care anymore than the old Council ..I thought Mr Scott Would Care just a waste of good Vote
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @siller will: I concur
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Donna Graham
I own a piece of land in Parrsboro, with no house, but does have a fully working septic. Why should I have to pay for sewer if I want to build a home here?
 
 
Thomas Wayne
Reply to @Donna Graham: You build, you pay.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Donna Graham: You shouldn't have to but it seems that the Crown sees it differently at least until the next writ is dropped then the "Powers That Be" who want another ticket on the gravy train may see things your way eh?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Joe Smith
I think they should charge the project manager and any officials responsible for managing this project for the overruns. If you do that, the next group of clowns running these types of projects will take their responsibilities to heart.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Joe Smith: Welcome to the circus
 
 
Robert Lloyd
Reply to @Joe Smith: said "....charge the project manager and any officials responsible for managing this project ...."

Joe, there is "idealistic" and "realistic"....but it is O.K. to think the former.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lloyd Smith 
Good morning, I was a councillor in the former Town of Parrsboro (1997 - 2008), serving with Mayor Doug Robinson. In 2000 we were mandated by the federal government to treat the sewer the town was collecting and dumping into the harbour (200+) customers. We had a 3 phase plan to be completed by 2020. We decided to do the project this way, to reduce the financial impact on the small town. The Phases were: Phase 1, make a new outfall close to planned treatment facility. Phase 2, install pumping stations. Phase 3, build treatment facility (lagoon system). After 2 new Town Councils and the dissolving of the Town to the Municipality of Cumberland, there obviously became a priority change to the project! There were sewer line extensions to 3 key areas of the former Town. The sewer collection now has 400+ customers. 200 of these have their own functioning systems. This new revised project went over budget $4,400,000.
The residents of the community of Parrsboro have many questions, some are: Why were there changes to the original plan? Who proposed these changes? And most important, Why the Municipality of Cumberland approved a project that was $4,400,000 over budget?
Thanks Lloyd 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Lloyd Smith: I have many question too Perhaps we should talk ASAP?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Cristine Peers
Sewage is still being pumped into the bay! Parrsboro residents should not be forced to pay for a service that they are not receiving. It's ridiculous.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Cristine Peers: Seems so
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Richard Fleming 
"cost overrun"!! How much was the cut to the politicians and bureaucrats again?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Richard Fleming: Good question
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Mark Edkins 
No way residents pay. Sue the contractors. Why always the little guy scraping by ?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Mark Edkins: Yup
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jackie Barrett
Residents shouldn't be forced to subsidize cost overruns and mismanagement.

Cumberland County, Town of Parrsboro, and the contractor should be responsible for cost overruns, not residents.

Shame on Cumberland County for rewarding mismanagement at the expense of its residents.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jackie Barrett: I concur
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Art Rowe
Quote, "McCully and many of her neighbours believe the entire cost overrun should be shared by everyone who lives in Cumberland County and not just Parrsboro residents."
It isn't proper to suggest that the cost of this should be shared by everyone in the whole county any more than suggesting it be shared by every taxpayer in Canada.
The cost of the infrastructure projects that are to be borne by the taxpayers belong to those of the people benefiting from the project, not everyone else in the county, province or country.
 
 
Denny O'Brien
Reply to @Art Rowe: I'm fine with it as long as parrsboro helps pay for my septic to be replaced when the time comes..
 
 
Art Rowe
Reply to @Denny O'Brien:
Don't hold your breath for that one.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Denny O'Brien: Good point
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Sampson
Infrastructure costing ought to be the prime responsibility of government and includes road construction and maintenance, and water and sewage services. Because municipalities have limited revenue generating ability it must fall onto the provincial government’s shoulders to ensure basic infrastructure projects are funded. Putting the full cost onto residents shoulders is simply ludicrous.
 
 
Denny O'Brien
Reply to @David Sampson: Why should they avg tax payer pay for a town sewer when most folks not in town have to pay and maintain for their own out of pocket.?
 
 
David Sampson
Reply to @Denny O'Brien:
The population of Parrsboro has declined from 3400 to a current population of less than 1200. Forced by the province to install sewage lines ( they don’t have the property size in town to allow for septic systems ) the cost overruns should be picked up by the province as the few residents simply can’t absorb the cost overruns that were imposed upon them. They don’t live in the boondocks......it’s a town Denny that has been around since 1610!
 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Sampson: Well put
 
 
Denny O'Brien
Reply to @David Sampson: Its no different than if a person has a problem with their septic and had to pay to get it fixed. Except its not likely they would get to spread the costs over several years like the town is..
 
 
Robert Lloyd
Reply to @David Sampson: said "Infrastructure costing ought to be the prime responsibility of government..."

David, which government are you referring to...municipal, provincial and/or federal and why?
 
 
 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/parrsboro-sewage-fee-tax-bill-1.5170429 

 

Parrsboro residents surprised by huge increase in sewage fee

$957 annual charge will help pay for new sewage collection and treatment system

 

Frances Willick· CBC News· Posted: Jun 13, 2019 6:00 AM AT

 


The Municipality of the County of Cumberland, N.S., recently installed a new sewage system in the community of Parrsboro. Many residents were not expecting the resulting $957 annual charge on their property tax bills. (Google Streetview)

Some Parrsboro, N.S., residents are frustrated and worried after they opened their property tax bills last week to find a $957 sewage charge.

The Municipality of the County of Cumberland charged the fee to help pay for a new sewage collection system and treatment plant in the former town of about 1,200 people.

But Don Lake, a building manager who looks after multiple properties in the area, said the fee was a surprise for many, who weren't notified of the increase.

"Not a single word. Not a single word was given out," he said.

Lake said Parrsboro's population includes a high number of senior citizens, and many cannot afford to pay the fee, which is about $650 more than the normal amount.

Before the new sewage collection and treatment system was built, sewage flowed into the harbour and nearby waterways. (Google Streetview)

The $957 annual fee is charged per unit in multi-unit buildings, so some landlords have been hit with thousands of extra dollars on their bills.

"I can't pass that $957 on to the tenants," Lake said. "This is not funds that I can expect tenants to pay."

Mary Parker operates a nine-unit apartment building with a retail space. Her tax bill included nine charges of $957, plus a higher fee for the commercial space.

She said she will likely have to pass some of that expense on to her tenants.

"It's certainly going to impact what I'm going to have to charge for rent," she said. "I'm going to have to absorb a certain percentage of it for sure but … I don't have any choice."

Who has to pay the fee

Parker said she has invested in the building over the past few years, including installing a new roof and a new facade.

"I just don't see how I can continue to do that sort of thing and meet the requirements of such an increase in taxes," she said.

Residents whose properties front on the sewage collection system will see the annual $957 charge on their bills whether they use the system or not.

Lake said he installed a $12,000 septic system at his three-unit building a few years ago, and he won't be hooking the building up to the sewer line. Regardless, his tax bill includes three charges of $957.

'This is a good thing'

Municipal Coun. Norman Rafuse said residents should try to look on the bright side.

"All the people are looking at is the fact that this is an added cost," Rafuse said. "But, I mean, this is a good thing. There's been sewage going in the harbour here for years and now there isn't."

The municipality installed the new sewage system because federal regulations require wastewater that enters waterways to be treated properly by 2020.

Project cost $12.7M, about $4M more than expected

Rafuse said residents were asked to pay the fee because the completed project, which was funded by all three levels of government, came in about $4 million over the $9-million budget.

"If the project had have come in somewhere around the original price, they would have got an increase, definitely, but it would not have been as high," he said.

Residents were informed of the increase in a post on the municipality's website, Rafuse said.

He said municipal staff are exploring options to help lower-income residents pay the fee.


 

 

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james fryday
The government should be responsible for cost over runs.
 
 
David Sampson
Reply to @james fryday:
Which government? Provincial, municipal? It would be insane to hold the province ( and thus all Nova Scotian taxpayers ) responsible to cover incompetency of a municipal government.

Rethink this Jimmy, you surely didn’t consider all the implications.
 
 
james fryday
Reply to @David Sampson: Dave the federal government is mainly responsible because they are the ones who passed the law. The Province is responsible as they put money into the project. The Municipal government is responsible for they approved the contract. If someone and only one government is to pay it should be Cumberland county residents as a whole. The way it is according to the story is even folks who don't use the sewage system still have to pay as they live in the area.The cost needs to be spread as wide as possible. Take for example one time power rates were different all over Nova Scotia with many companies involved. Later this all changed to a crown corporation and people who lived in areas not easily accessed paid the same price as urban folks. Kind of like the regulated price of gas.What the feds did, in my view was like saying gas driven cars are banned on roads and only electric vehicles are allowed. You nor I would be happy about paying one thousand a year forever because of a change in the law. for sewage. We also would not be happy to give up our gas driven cars(without compensation). I would like to know what law firm drew up the contract as that info should be made public
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dawn McCully
Are you serious???? Look on the bright side and not be concerned with the increase ???
I would bet that probably 70% of our population here in parrsboro lives near poverty level. Our dear councillor is not in that category. So for him to say look on the bright side is an insult to say the least ! Who the hell does he think he is?? Yes this was inevitable and it had to be done .:... but know They had to repair my water line three times because they broke it! And I am far from the only person that this happened to.
And the bigger picture is we now have this massive jump with the sewer , we have roads that needs fixed , shore line protection that needs to be done, a town hall they want to
Build, etc. Guess what that means INCREASED TAXES!!
Come on!!! And to increase the honorariums of the council and to have taken away our volunteer firemen’s honorarium is disgraceful!
 
 
Graham Brownlie  
Reply to @Dawn McCully: Lose the Councillor and his high horse, you'll probably have no fee. What a callous thing to say that the fees are "a good thing". 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Charles van Duren
The article should also have reported that Parrsboro dissolved itself as a municipality and amalgamated with Cumberland County over declining revenue and significant infrastructure challenges, most notably this new waste-water treatment facility it was required to build.
 
 
Graham Brownlie  
Reply to @Charles van Duren: Can you say you got hosed by the regional council, and it's elected officials? I think you can. Cost overruns due to project management incompetence should never be covered by the taxpayer, maybe the councilor could cough up? I'm sure he would Rafuse as "this is a good thing" :)
 
 
 
 

MEET THE CANDIDATE Lloyd Smith, Cumberland County

Lloyd Smith

Lloyd Smith is running in District 8, Cumberland County

Q. What’s your full name?

Lloyd C. Smith

Q. Where are you from?

I was born and raised here in Parrsboro, NS, and I have lived here my whole life.

Q. What did you do before you decided to run for office?

I have worked at Granby Furnaces Inc.(formerly Parrsboro Metal Fabricators) for the past 27 years, currently in the position of customer service/inside sales. In the past I have volunteered with the Parrsboro Volunteer Fire Department (20 years), Parrsboro & District Lions Club (20 years) and spent a few years coaching kids hockey with Parrsboro Minor Hockey Association.

Q. Why have you chosen to run in this election campaign?

I have lived in this county all my life and I am very passionate about our area and its constituents. I believe I can bring much knowledge to the table, and I stand committed to people by supporting all areas of District 8 and all their individual concerns. The people of District 8 need someone who is compassionate about its constituents and their concerns and is willing to listen and act in a responsible and respective way. I have been very concerned over the past four years with decisions that have been made and the costs associated with those decisions. Just one example is the Parrsboro Sewer project, putting 400-plus users in a $4,400,000 debt. Yes, local governments are required to do certain projects, but these should only be done if they can afford to be done.

Q. What strengths would you bring to council if you are elected?

I am very hard working, honest, understanding and willing to listen to the concerns of all the constituents in District 8. I have 11 years council experience (1997–2008) in the previous Town of Parrsboro, and believe with this background and knowledge, I have much to bring to the council table. I am very approachable and willing to address all constituents concerns in a timely, responsible and respectful manor. I am very committed to our county and its people and vow to work hard for each and every community within our District 8 to ensure your concerns are heard and addressed. I have the ability to work through problems with a level head, and a passion to help people in the community. I would bring a common sense approach to council, for example, making sure we can pay for a project, not just doing it and not worrying about the costs.

Q. What do you see as the biggest strength/asset of the community/region and what measures would you take to capitalize on them?

One of the biggest assets of the District 8 area, if not all of Cumberland County, is the amazing beauty in the area. Around every corner you can see breath-taking scenery, and this beauty and serenity give a quality of life that is second to none. Tourism is a huge part of our economy, along with Blueberry Farming, Fisheries and Forestry. Being on the Bay of Fundy / Minus Basin gives the opportunity to produce green energy if it can be done in an environmentally friendly way. There are also the hundreds of volunteers in this district, and we rely on them on a daily basis. The firefighters within the departments of Five Islands, Parrsboro, FPW, Advocate and Southampton are men and women who will stop their lives in a moments notice to help others. We have volunteers participating in many various board groups, church groups, service organizations, and community hall groups. There are even volunteers going in to care centers and nursing homes to play music to aid in making others feel better. These volunteers are definitely the hearts of our communities.

Q. What do you feel is the key challenge facing the community/region and how would you work to address it?

There are many challenges facing our District 8 and each community is a bit different from the other. Some of the challenges that are common for each are the lack of police presence, health care, permanent affordable housing, road conditions and tax increases. Others that may be more Parrsboro related such as the debt associated with the sewer project, Aboiteau Bridge and Whitehall Bridge conditions, and also the state of the Aboiteau and surrounding area. Another challenge will be community halls that are run by volunteer community groups and the struggles they will have because of the lack of rentals and fundraising due to COVID-19.

Q. What one message do you hope gets out to the voters during this election campaign?

I would like the residents of District 8 to know I am a very passionate, honest, hard working individual that will do whatever I can to represent the constituents at the council table.

Through this difficult time with COVID, it is more important than ever to vote, with more methods being offered in this election. You can now vote on the internet or phone from Oct. 5 at 8 a.m. (24 hours per day) until Oct. 17 at 7 p.m. The Parrsboro Service Centre (former CIBC building) will facilate voting by paper method. Advance polls will be held Oct. 10 and 13 from noon until 8 p.m., with the regular poll being held on Oct. 17 from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. Due to COVID, I will not be doing a door to door campaign. Please feel free to contact me with any concerns or comments you may have. Thank you very much for your support, and please know I will always do what it takes to represent everyone as best I can in this district.

Q. How can people contact you? (phone/email/website)

Home: 902-254-3831, email: lloydcsmith65@gmail.com, Facebook Page: “Lloyd Smith for District 8 Councilor”, Lloyd Smith on Messenger, or text 902-254-4619

 

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Lloyd Smith for District 8 Councillor


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Murray Scott


Murray Scott represented the electoral district of Cumberland South in the Nova Scotia House of Assembly from 1998 to 2010. He is now running to become Mayor of Cumberland Municipality in the 2020 Nova Scotia municipal elections.
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Councillor Goodwin and I have met and discussed several times the Parrsboro sewer issue. I have viewed at home the two binders containing the information around Parrsboro sewer, approx 2000 pages, to become familiar with the facts around this project and how it transpired. I have spoken personally with the Minister of Municipal Affairs about the finances surrounding the project and Councillor Goodwin and I met with MP Lenore Zann as well and both have indicated because the project is completed neither level of government is able to provide any additional funds towards the costs.
Thanks Murray 
 
YO Murray Baby Say Hey to your buddies Billy Casey and Lenore Zann for me will ya? Everybody knows you as Attorney General ignored these documents when I ran against you in 2006 Now your former minions are inviting me to sue Nova Scotia AGAIN CORRECT? https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
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this just isn't good enough. The Provincial Government is perfectly able to provide more funding as they so readily did for CBRM. They simply choose to not help. Where is fairness in government I ask? To use the project completion as an excuse is just that, an excuse.
What kind of society to we live in where a municipality can arbitrarily impose an unnecessary debt on residents, with no public consultation whatsoever? To cap it all they then force through a by-law giving them the power to do the same thing whenever they like! If nothing can be done about the debt, at least give us the satisfaction of firing those responsible, starting with the CAO. The way he runs the municipality is appalling. He has lost all credibility.
Thank you for your work on this issue, this only leaves the County of Cumberland council to do what is right! It was not a request from the from the 400 customers to have the sewer line extensions and it was a unanimous decision of council to go in debt for a project that was not required!
I know it was not your council that approved this project but hopefully it will be your council that fixes it. Thanks
Lloyd Smith
don't thank
Murray Scott
yet. He hasn't done anything to be thanked for.
So this is it ? Will there be any more Investigation as to why there was the large expansion from the original plans ? Why the expansion ran to where it did ? So so many unanswered questions .
Dawn McCully
agree Dawn
Councillor Goodwin and I continue to ask and seek answers on your behalf
Murray
Murray Scott
thanks so much
So what are you going to do now? What is your next step?

 

 

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/provincial/meet-the-candidate-murray-scott-running-for-mayor-of-springhill-497755/

 

MEET THE CANDIDATE Murray Scott, running for mayor of Cumberland County


Murray Scott

Murray Scott is running for mayor of Cumberland County

Q. What’s your full name?

Murray Kenneth Scott.

Q. Where are you from?

I was born and grew up in Springhill, NS. This is also where Linda and I raised our two children. For three years, we lived in Moncton where I was a member of the Moncton City Police Force. We returned to Springhill in 1983 and I became a member of the Springhill Police Service. Since that time, I have been a resident of Springhill.

Q. What did you do before you decided to run for office?

I am a retired police officer having served with the Moncton City Police and Springhill Police Service for a total of 20 years. I served 12 years as MLA for Cumberland South. During my political career, I was Speaker of the Nova Scotia Legislature, and held several cabinet portfolios, including Minister of Justice, Attorney General, Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure Renewal and Minister of Economic Development.

Q. Why have you chosen to run in this election campaign?

I feel that I have the time, experience, and energy to commit to the mayor’s position which I intend to make full time. I believe the Municipality of Cumberland is one of the best places to live. This area has so much to offer and I want to be a part of helping the region reach its potential. I see advantages in working with provincial and local partners to benefit one another. Two areas in which I feel confident are my abilities to work collaboratively and to problem solve. Both qualities are especially needed at this time by anyone in such a leadership role.

Q. What strengths would you bring to council if you are elected?

My experiences as a former police officer and provincial cabinet minister will serve me well as the new mayor for the municipality. The new council will be smaller in number. Each of these councillors will have greater responsibilities so it is vital that they have a mayor who has a proven record as a leader to support them. I have been described as a “people person.” I care about people and I care about the problems they are facing. It has always been a challenge for me to try to find solutions or to negotiate compromises. I believe that my ability to reach out to legislature colleagues and ministers to solve individual and community problems will prove to be an asset.

Q. What do you see as the biggest strength/asset of the community/region and what measures would you take to capitalize on them?

Cumberland County’s biggest asset is definitely its people. We have a community of people who work hard and who volunteer their time unselfishly. Travelling throughout the municipality you will find community groups and organizations working to enhance life for their neighbours both young and old. One such group is our volunteer firefighters. They need and deserve the support from their communities. As well, each community within the Municipality of Cumberland has its own uniqueness and strengths. The industries that provide our jobs, the museums that house our histories, the agriculture, forestry, and fishing sectors that provide so much of our needs, the scenic shores that bring tourists, each of these varies within our communities. The way to capitalize on these areas is to identify underlying issues, concerns or problems and seek ways to resolve them. Communication is the vital link to success. It is my intention as mayor to keep open the lines of communication by being accessible to all residents of the municipality.

Q. What do you feel is the key challenge facing the community/region and how would you work to address it?

One challenge we face, which I hear on a regular basis from residents, is the property tax rates. We pay some of the highest taxes compared to the rest of the province. I feel we need to do a full assessment of the taxes collected and how those dollars are spent. We should look at efficiencies and where tax dollars can be saved. We must ensure that we have a business friendly environment. As well, it is vital that a municipal government communicates on a regular basis with residents. Lack of communication leads to misunderstanding. Communication is the key to success.

Q. What one message do you hope gets out to the voters during this election campaign?

As a former MLA who ran five successful elections in 12 years it was always my commitment to represent all of the constituents in Cumberland South. I met regularly with people and community groups in each area to address their concerns and to work on solutions. It is my intention if elected to continue this practice as mayor of the Municipality of Cumberland. I see the office of mayor as a full time commitment and one that I will endeavour to fulfill.

Q. How can people contact you?

By phone, I can be reached at 902-694-0072. My email is electmurray2020@gmail.com

 

 

2009 general election

2009 Nova Scotia general election
Party Candidate Votes % ±%
  Progressive ConservativeMurray Scott4,334 67.66 -9.10
  New Democratic PartyDon Tabor 1,659 25.90 +14.53
  LiberalJoseph Archibald 325 5.07 -5.24

GreenDanny Melvin881.37-0.02

2006 general election

2006 Nova Scotia general election
Party Candidate Votes % ±%
  Progressive ConservativeMurray Scott5,082 76.76 +5.06
  New Democratic PartyAndrew Kernohan 753 11.37 +0.49
  LiberalMary Dee MacPherson 681 10.29 -7.11

GreenJames Dessart921.39
  Independent David R. Amos 13 .20


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/mla-scott-to-resign-1.925405 

 

MLA Scott to resign

Murray Scott says he'll step down as MLA for Cumberland South this year.

The 57-year-old Progressive Conservative announced his plans on Tuesday, saying he wants to spend more time with his wife, children and grandchildren.

"I guess when you get to my age you realize that life flies by. I've been to a lot of funerals this year, some friends of mine, some even younger than me," he said.

"I guess things can change in your life on a daily basis, and over the last year it's changed quite a bit for me."

Scott, a former police officer, was elected to the Nova Scotia legislature in 1998 and re-elected four times. He was minister of justice, transportation, and economic development in the governments of John Hamm and Rodney MacDonald.

After 12 years at Province House, Scott said it was time to let someone else represent Cumberland South.

He said he's looking forward to new opportunities.

"I belong to some volunteer organizations that I have not been able to put a lot of time into over the last couple of years — my church, my lodge — so I want to get back in touch with those people," he said.

"Then I want to look at how I can best use some of my time, my experience, I guess, over the last couple of years. You know, reach out and touch some people, organizations, and try and help on the volunteer side."

Scott said he will resign his seat some time before the end of the year.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/bill-casey-mp-cumberland-colchester-announces-retirement-1.4836289

 

MP Bill Casey reflects on 3 decades in Parliament as he prepares to retire

Cumberland-Colchester MP won't run in the next federal election

Cumberland-Colchester Liberal MP Bill Casey announced earlier this month he will not be running in the 2019 federal election. (Tom Hanson/Canadian Press)

Bill Casey's route through 30 years of federal politics has been anything but a straight path.

"I've been thrown out, thrown back in, recycled, changed parties a few times, ran as an Independent, got sick, came back. But what an incredible privilege," the Liberal MP for Cumberland-Colchester told CBC Radio's Mainstreet recently.

Soon, that road will come to an end. Casey announced earlier this month he won't run in next year's federal election so he can spend more time with his family.


Bill Casey rises to vote against the federal budget in the House of Commons in June 2007. (Tom Hanson/Canadian Press)

Casey was first elected in 1988 as a Progressive Conservative. He was defeated in 1993, but returned to Ottawa in 1997 and several subsequent elections. 

A rather significant hitch disrupted his career when, in 2007, he voted against the budget tabled by the Stephen Harper government, saying it broke the Atlantic Accord.

Casey recalls that as the most unforgettable moment of his time in Parliament. He said the moment was so confusing that he lost track of what was unfolding in the House of Commons and had to go up to the Speaker to understand what was going on.

"But I figured it out and I managed to get my vote in and a second later I was thrown out," he said. "It was chaotic. I was sitting in my seat and the press was leaning over the press gallery … and the Opposition was chanting, 'Bill, Bill, Bill.'"

After Harper expelled him from the caucus, Casey sat as an Independent until 2009, when he was diagnosed with cancer and resigned his seat.

"My doctor said if you don't get out of that circus, you won't recover," Casey said. "I hated to do it, but I just had to do it and I'm certainly glad I did it now in hindsight. I might not be here if I hadn't have done that."

Email from Trudeau

It was during his time as an Independent — Casey was assigned a seat in the very back row — that he got to know Justin Trudeau, who sat across the aisle from him.

Then, one day in 2014, Casey was sitting at home when he got an email "right out of the blue" from Trudeau.

"All he said was, 'Hi Bill, I'm going to come right out and ask you, will you run for the Liberals in the next election?'" Casey said. 

"I had not even thought about it. It hadn't crossed my mind, but it was an intriguing proposition."

He accepted that proposition and was elected with 63 per cent of the votes in the 2015 election.

Prospects for riding

Asked whether he believes the Liberals can hold on to the seat after he leaves, Casey replied with a laugh: "I didn't think they could hold it with me."

"A lot of things go into how an election turns out," he said. "It's partly the candidate, part leader, part policy, part the way people are feeling.… I certainly think the Liberals have a really good crack at it."

Casey said some of the accomplishments he's most proud of include his work on trying to make Isle Haute — a small island in the Bay of Fundy off Advocate Harbour, N.S. — part of the national park system and a declared wilderness preserve, and having the historic Acadian village Beaubassin declared a national historic site.

Casey said he feels privileged to have served in Parliament through the twists and turns of his career.

And the biggest lesson he's learned?

"Do the right thing. There's so many tugs on you when an issue comes up — will you do this or will you do that? Will people like me, will people not like me? Will I get elected? 

"Forget all that. You just gotta do the right thing."

With files from CBC Radio's Mainstreet Halifax

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Thursday, September 29, 2005

SUSSEX - GOLD FOUND AND BERNARD LORD'S OPINION!!!!

 

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John Hamm a man of great integrity resigned as a Premier of Nova Scotia. We have unscrupulous Bernard Lord who is still Premier. There is something wrong with us NBers to tolerate this man as our Premier

David R. Amossaid...

Here is the real reason Hamm quit it is at the very bottom of this particular blog. This email is also why the dudes in Fredericton are so nervous these days. Simply put I'm back. I can only wonder how long this Blog will remain before Chucky Leblanc deletes it in order to cover up the public corruption he secretly supports.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:19 AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: This is who I am Bobby Baby. Read it and weep.


I had to respond to this. Brian Gaudet should have read my last email before bouncing it back to me with his insults. I was already gone. At least this Frenchman, sounds more like a proper Maritimer. Yet if he was going to spout off to me he should have been man enough to say it front of the rest of you too. Let us all see if he has truly Billy Gates blocking me after trying to pick a fight with me. Yahoo will tell the tale on that. That said, I do admire that he defends his wife's name and is willing to fight about it even if he does not understand the issues. That is honourable but dumb. I was confused that the email address said two mech so I suspect that he may be a mechanic just like me and not any sort of lawyer or newsman either. I like that as well.
It seems he has been raised on the four F's just like me. Only thing is I ain't hiding behind an electronic mask like he said. If he had bothered to read I had even inserted my phone number. I will be coming to Sackville very soon but by then your protests will likely be over and I would be met with the indifference that I was faced with last year. So I will bother you all no more even though I will be forwarding and blogging this email in many other places. It is the same methods that the locked out people employed to bring CBC to the table. they have no right to put down my actions against them. I do not wish to speak to the CBC or the employees about a lawsuit I am filing against the Crown because of their actions against me. That would be kinda dumb even for a Maritimer don't you think? I would rather have spoken to pissed off people CBC had locked out of work. It made far more sense to me.
I have many friends in the Sackville area. Perhaps Frenchy should ask around about me to some mechanics he may know to see if most folks who know me well think me to be a liar. He should not rely on CBC to find out the truth about me. To offset any confrontations from people he did not know, Frenchy should have told his wife not to use his email address. If he did not want to be bothered by people she and her other CBC buddies had ignored last year during the last federal election he should have told me out of the gate that he was not his wife. She could have gotten her own hotmail account like my eleven year old in Amherst just did. Instead she used her husband's email to tell the world on the internet that she was actively protesting being out of work? She was soliticiting our support for her plight but in the next electronic breath her husband proves that they care about nobody else? CBC and all of its reporters are the bullshitters in this matter not me. They are self centered greedy bastards also.
CBC does have a mandate to give all people running for a seat in Parliament equal time not just the people the reporters want to win. That is the law and their mandate as a Crown Corp. In case you are reading this Brian Gaudet talk tough all you wish. I don't scare easy because I am too dumb to know fear. Ask the Secret Service who tried to take me away to Cuba over two years ago or the jailers who threw me in the hole last year because I was pretty pissed off if I am a chickenshit or not. Because I display no fear people label me as crazy in order to make themselves feel better about their own cowardice. I have walked the walk for far too long to be frightened by anyone now. I live each day as my last. Only integrity surprises me now. It is a rare thing to find combined with age and power.
If you don't believe me or think I am harrassing you in any way why not call the RCMP or sue me French?. Bring along this email to prove how I have offended you. I will love to argue the Crown about it in court. I will bring along what I served upon the CBC in Saint John while I was running for Parliament last year. It should make for an interesting argument that CBC will not report. Their lawyers have not answered me yet but many others have and know tha CBC got my material too. It appears that i must sue to get an answer as to why the CBC ignored its mandate.
Frenchy I would prefer to meet your lawyer face to face in court in a civil lawsuit rather than duke it out on the street with you and inspire another criminal matter. Besides I have too much to lose even if I won such a senseless thing in court or in the street. You are another ordinary asshole like me. There is no need to battle with you. I am getting too old for such nonsense now but I will certainly defend myself from anyone. If you wish to pursue the matter be forewarned that I don't fight fair anymore. If perchance I lose I am very big on getting even. My battles are never over until that happens. What I teach my son also holds true for me. I tell him to never back down from anyone because it is too expensivee to one's own pride and you will have to run from bullies your whole life. In truth a brawl proves nothing at all except how dumb we can be. Nevertheless like hockey fighting can be a great sport sometimes. Confused? Me too. what do you teach your son Frenchy?
Like you Frenchy I prefer face to face confrontations but only in front of many witnesses these days so that nobody can accuse me of saying or doing anything wrong. If you wish to fight, call the cops first and announce your intentions then all that I ask of you is that you throw the first swing so that my actions will be in defence. Is that OK with you Frenchy??????
You are right about one thing though. Nobody cares. However it is not stupid of me to piss people off. It is merely one of those things I do that nobody seems to appreciate. It works like a charm to get others to prove to me that they are assholes. The big difference between an asshole like me and an asshole like you is that I care about what happens to others. You don't. If you disagree why not help another Maritimer by the name of Byron Prior. He needs all the help he can get. I don't. You don't even have to Google him. Read the portion of his his web site that was at the bottom of the second email I sent to you today. If you have any heart in you at all pick up the phone and call him to see if he is for real for yourself. I did the best I could to help him with his litigation against Billy Matthews and all his Newfy buddies while your wife's buddy Ian Hannamansing who is from Sackville only called Byron a liar while he was doing his big special in Newfoundland about justice last year.
If my memory of what Byron said about the show that night is correct, your wife's fellow CBC workers carefully edited Byron from any of their tapes shown on TV while the Attorney General Tommy Marshall's son sat right by his side and made it on TV. In my opinion the CBC dudes in Newfoundland should all be fired ASAP for that reason alone. That fact has nothing to do with me and my concerns whatsoever. All Canadians were denied the opportunity to hear what Byron Prior had to say about how justice is being served in the Maritimes. It should make no difference at all whether or not Hannamansing thought of Byron a lair. We all had the right to hear what he had to say after CBC had invited the public they work for to speak on TV. How else can we decide the truth about anything if we do not hear from all sides? This is a Democracy isn't it is free speech a myth on public TV? CBC does not have the right to to be judge and jury simply because they have the ability to edit tapes.
Get it Frenchy???????????
Here is my phone number again Frenchy 506 434 1379 if you wish to ask me any questions. I will not bother to look up yours. I do not care about you think anymore if you don't wish to speak man to man. I will do as you requested and merely leave you all alone just like I said in the last email I ever intended to send to any of the CBC crowd. Now that they are comfortably back at work editing the truth for Paul Martin's benefit not ours, I know it would be fruitless to approach them anymore.
Before you give me a call Frenchy, perhaps you should review email that you bounced back to me. For your education here is my face as well and an article about me in a local paper then ask yourself why the CBC reporters ignored an interesting little circus.
I ain't hiding and I ain't a lair. I am just another Maritime asshole just like you Frenchy. You should understand me as being a simple, sincere and serious asshole even if you do not believe that I am a man with some pretty serious beefs against the corrupt justice system and the CBC that helps it in its malice towards us all. It is late and my rambling rant is over. As I wrote this I kept remmbering my encounters with the Frenchy from the far side of my hometown of Dorchester last year. His name is Charles LeBlanc. Man that bastard is full of hot air. I had to get this off my chest. I will sleep better with you dismissed from my mind too. Good luck with your own conscience from now on. Say Hey to Chucky Leblanc for me will ya> Like you he is blocking my emails after sending me a flood of them last year. I will lay odds your wife knows of him. The Maritimes ain't that big a place and he is quite a bragger.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "McKnight, Gisele" McKnight.Gisele@kingscorecord.com
> > > > To: lcampenella@ledger.com
> > > > Cc:motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:53 PM
> > > > Subject: David Amos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Lisa,
> > > > > David Amos asked me to contact you. I met him last June after he
> > became
> > > an
> > > > > independent (not representing any political party) candidate in our
> > > > federal
> > > > > election that was held June 28.
> > > > >
> > > > > He was a candidate in our constituency of Fundy (now called
> > > Fundy-Royal).
> > > > I
> > > > > wrote a profile story about him, as I did all other candidates. That
> > > story
> > > > > appeared in the Kings County Record June 22. A second story, written
> > by
> > > > one
> > > > > of my reporters, appeared on the same date, which was a report on
> the
> > > > > candidates' debate held June 18.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I recall David Amos came last of four candidates in the election.
> > The
> > > > > winner got 14,997 votes, while Amos got 358.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have attached the two stories that appeared, as well as a photo
> > taken
> > > by
> > > > > reporter Erin Hatfield during the debate. I couldn't find the photo
> > that
> > > > > ran, but this one is very similar.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gisele McKnight
> > > > > editor A1-debate A1-amos,David for MP 24.doc debate
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> > > > > Kings County Record
> > > > > Sussex, New Brunswick
> > > > > Canada
> > > > > 506-433-1070
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd

By Erin Hatfield

"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it."

The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if unofficial, theme song for the debate.

The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn. Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty, mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.

The debate was moderated by Leo Melanson of CJCW Radio and was organized by the Sussex Valley Jaycees. Candidates wereasked a barrage of questions bypanelists Gisele McKnight of the Kings County Record and Lisa Spencer of CJCW.

Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices. Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each other on their answers and criticizing eachothers’ party leaders. Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of comic relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in response to the question of thenational gun registry. "Nobody's getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."

Herron, a Progressive Conservative MP turned Liberal, veered from his party'splatform with regard to gun control. "It was ill advised but well intentioned," Herron said. "No matter what side of the house I am on, I'm voting against it." Pat Hanratty agreed there were better places for the gun registry dollars to be spent.Recreational hunters shouldn't have been penalized by this gun registry," he said.

The gun registry issues provoked the tempers of Herron and Moore. At one point Herron got out of his seat and threw a piece of paper in front of Moore. "Read that," Herron said to Moore, referring to the voting record of Conservative Party leader Steven Harper. According to Herron, Harper voted in favour of the registry on the first and second readings of the bill in 1995. "He voted against it when it counted, at final count," Moore said. "We needa government with courage to register sex offenders rather than register the property of law abiding citizens."

The crowd was vocal throughout the evening, with white haired men and women heckling from the Conservative side. "Shut up John," one woman yelled. "How can you talk about selling out?" a man yelled whenHerron spoke about his fear that the Conservatives are selling farmers out.

Although the Liberal side was less vocal, Kings East MLA Leroy Armstrong weighed in at one point. "You’re out of touch," Armstrong yelled to Moore from the crowd when the debate turned to the cost of post-secondary education. Later in the evening Amos challenged Armstrong to a public debate of their own. "Talk is cheap. Any time, anyplace," Armstrong responded.

As the crowd made its way out of the building following the debate, candidates worked the room. They shook hands with well-wishers and fielded questions from spectators-all part of the decision-making process for the June 28 vote.

Cutline – David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his favourite possessions—motorcycles.

McKnight/KCR

The Unconventional Candidate

David Amos Isn’t Campaigning For Your Vote, But….

By Gisele McKnight

FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."

Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.

The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada.

One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail to meet Elections Canada requirements.

When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his favourite place to do so—Fundy.

Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians.

"I’ve become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."

The journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in 1987. He woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he needed to change his life.

"I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that sometimes in midlife."

So Amos, who’d lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952 Panhead motorcycle.

"Annie and I rode around for awhile (three years, to be exact) experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said. "This is how you renew your faith in mankind – you help anyone you can, you never ask for anything, but you take what they offer."

For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs and conversation all over North America.

Since he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son and a daughter and become a house-husband – Mr. Mom, as he calls himself.

He also describes himself in far more colourful terms—a motorcyclist rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a proud Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."

Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.

"But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said. "It’s alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"

Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.

"I didn’t appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can call me. I’m not going to drive my opinions down their throats."

And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.

"I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."

What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.

"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.

NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.

Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.

"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me, especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right. Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."

Although…if you’re going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have your X by his name.

"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and say, ‘what the hell.’"



Brian Gaudet twomech@nb.sympatico.ca wrote:

From: "Brian Gaudet" twomech@nb.sympatico.ca
To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: This is who I am Bobby Baby. Read it and weep.
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:41:47 -0300


Listen, asshole.......This is not Suzanne's email it is her husband. I certainly don't care for the remarks that you are making about her. Having said that, I asked you once politely to remove us from your list. I will have blocked you by now, so I will not have to put up with your e-mails or bullshit any longer...................But I am not one for emails anyway.........I prefer to talk face to face............So you can't hide behind this electronic mask.............Do You get it???????????? I would not hide from a pathetic waste of oxygen such as you antway. People just don't care............Understand............No body cares about you and your stupidity..................Go AWAY...........
----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: bsharpe@nl.rogers.com ; davidamos@bsn1.net ; duffy@ctv.ca ; martine.turcotte@bell.ca ; news@ctv.ca ; am@ctv.ca ; diane.bourque@flsc.ca ; jcrosbie@pattersonpalmer.ca ; gbyrne@pattersonpalmer.ca ; corp.website@sunlife.com ; cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; shickman@pattersonpalmer.ca ; lrikleen@Bowditch.com ; John.Conyers@mail.house.gov ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ; bmosher@mosherchedore.ca ; carterweb@emory.edu ; Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ; parkhill@stu.ca ; plee@stu.ca ; billestabrooks@navnet.net ; kentlib@nbnet.nb.ca ; police@fredericton.ca ; wickedwanda3@adelphia.net ; marno3@shaw.ca ; cmgstjohns@nf.aibn.net
Cc: guild@interlog.com ; ombudsman@cbc.ca ; lise@cmg.ca ; pacificpalate@telus.net ; ajehman@hotmail.com ; maureen_matthews@cbc.ca ; gerry@cmg.ca ; bvessey@pei.eastlink.ca ; sallypitt@hotmail.com ; garyparsons@nfld.net ; neilmac@vzw.blackberry.net ; deesdee@yahoo.com ; shawk_1999@yahoo.com ; cari_blanchard@yahoo.com ; cturner@nbnet.nb.ca ; briann@accesswave.ca ; mplaurin@sympatico.ca ; lebelb@nbnet.nb.ca ; slmsmbouchard@hotmail.com ; maurice10@rogers.com ; m.meldrum@ns.sympatico.ca ; twomech@nb.sympatico.ca ; dugasp28@hotmail.com ; embateman@hotmail.com ; sawebb@hotmail.com ; pgcastle@hotmail.com ; newschick@hotmail.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: This is who I am Bobby Baby. Read it and weep.


Hey

To put it simply in answer to your dumb request Mr. Sharpe. My answer is HELL NO. That is a nice as I can put it. I just called Katie Nicholson and introduced myself. I will it leave you to wonder whom I will call next. Your clue is that you sent them greetings as a Locked-Out brother in sunny St. Johns.

To elaborate, I must say that I definitely will not go away. Look how you people act since you have been locked out of your jobs. You behave far worse tha I. In fact I may be coming to Newfoundland very soon to copy the material in the dockets of Newfoundland Supreme Court in the Billy Matthews versus Byron Prior matter as it pertains to me me. I need hard copy before I sue the CBC and the Crown. My question right now is hey Bobby Baby why don't I sue you too? Maybe I will come around and watch your people do their song and dance for their job. Perhaps you should try meeting me toe to toe and looking me in the eye if you want to meet a simple sincere and very serious man and then dare me to. I will be real easy to pick out. I am the hairy bastard in the Kilt once worn by a good friend of mine Ol Tom. He is one of the last of the Ladies from Hell. I wear it with his blessings. too many of his friends fought and died many years ago so that shit like this should not happen in our own nativeland. Even the Yankee bastard I call Deputy dog has met Ol Tom long before I dated the Yankee's sister. You bear the same first name as Deputy Dog Bobby Baby and you just forwarded all them your dumb little email that jerked this mangey old dog's chain bigtime. Need I say that my wife did not like receiving your response? She has warned me not to send out her email address anymore. Like her I do not listen real good sometimes but I did accomadate her on her birthday at least.

Bobby Baby if you want someone's shoulder to cry on give the lady Liza Frulla a call. She is a former sister of yours correct? I think she may have some job security issues when there is finally a federal election called. The sooner the better for me and the NDP. Frulla did not answer me so I must remain a man of my word and pass this email on as I promised her I would. Quite honestly I did not expect her to answer me. Everybody knows that she does whatever Paul Martin and the warroom dudes within PCO/PMO offices tell her to do. I needed the proof of contact thats all because I was banking on the fact the warroom will tell her to ignore me. I was just playing her like a fiddlewhile fishing for response from yo sos like you and hopefully an ehtical person or two. Paul Dugas who likes to play the fiddle in the town where I was born should certainly get my joke. On the one year anniversary of Ashcroft visiting Canada and Wayne Easter's office talking to me, he joined a forum to yap about violins. I found the coincidence strangely comical. If Paul Dugas or anyone within the CBC had elected to report my doings on that day instead of talking about fiddlin etc, we would all be better off right now. The CBC recived received my material July 16th 2002, the very same day Argeo P. Cellucci did. That was long before the War on Iraq had started. Have your conscience dwell on that sad fact for a minute or two before you answer a lot of ghosts in your Heaven or Hell someday. As you can see I study people a bit and I already have a pretty good idea who will be naughty and who may be nice. I learned long ago cops, lawyers, bankers, priests and newsmen never are. So I attack them out of the gate but only in an ethical fashion byway of the written word and carefully worded phone calls. Newsmen should know that the word is mightier than the sword. You make your living by it you should die by it as well. Please fall on it ASAP or use it to hang the rest of the corrupt bastards. How is that for a challenge?

Furthermore I like to do everything in threes just like they purportly do in Heaven and Hell. Now that Suzanne Gaudet, Paul Dugas from the town where I was born and you the Newfy Bobby Baby have responded to me you have sealed the fate of the Crown Corp of CBC for me. I need no more responses from the likes of you. Why spoil my own fun? I will likely not tell you anymore about what I am up to after I send the next email and print both of them as evidence to use in Federal Court. I will sue the Minister who oversees your conduct and none of you can ever say that you did not know the truth of my concerns before I did. The CRTC can go to Hell for all I care. Starting with their crooked little Minister many of the public servants under her supervision need to be replaced if the public trust in your profession is ever going to be upheld.

Even though the unethical people at CBC, CTV and all other media pretend to have no understanding of what I mean, a lot of Maritimers understand me quite well already. Blogging is truly the only way to go these days. Watch out. Ordinary folks will replace you in a New York minute. Why else has CBC locked you out I might ask? It appears to me that only the Frenchmen has job security EH? Why do you think that is? Better yet look how quick Bloggers embarrassed Dan Rather before you call me a dreamer. That said look to find the text of this email in many Blogs in the near future and you can study the work of a very fierce political animal. All you should have to do is Google your own name or email address. Turn about is fair play. EH? If you don't like please sue me just like Billy Matthews did with Byron Prior. Google that name some time then tell me all is well in Newfoundland.

It is my fellow Maritimers that I want pissed off at the CBC etc. and all the corrupt politicians they have chosen to support. I do not give two hoots about you as a man Bobby Baby. To me you are just a dumb little pawn in a big big game. I am taking on the Masters of War alone despite the laughter from the likes of you. IF you want some insight in to my character have Rudyard Kipling explain my nature to you within his wonderful poem called IF. I take his advice not your. thus you have the reason behind my simple answer of NO. What I would prefer though Newfy is for you to call me a liar in a public forum. I dare ya. You do not seem all that sharp to me so I will warn you I was raised to the F's of the Maritimes that your former Premier explained to the Yankees years ago. I found it funny the chickenshit named only three. So much for being politically correct EH? He came close but no cigar. Castro will get my joke someday soon. Here is me phone number 506 434-1379. Use it Newfy if you dare to use a phone with a caller ID. Otherwise do not bother at all. just find me in the Blogs.

On a personal note Bill, I liked your voicemail to me. You and I should have a long talk sometime. I think it would be best to do in public in front of many witnesses who have no idea what we are talking about. I am up against some pretty bad acting Feds right now. I am sorry to say that I cannot afford to trust anyone. A very busy Bar or Diner where ordinary folk like me hang out are my favorite haunts. I know of a few down your way. Maybe I will give ya call when I am heading to your town. Better yet for the benefit of your party why not come see me ASAP? I ain't hard to find ask the RCMP. They have been watching me like a hawk.

Veritas Vincit

David Raymond Amos



Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 06:00:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: ROBERT SHARPE bsharpe@nl.rogers.com
Subject: Re: Moma and Max and Happy Birthday Cards
To: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com,
davidamos@bsn1.net, duffy@ctv.ca, martine.turcotte@bell.ca, news@ctv.ca,
am@ctv.ca, diane.bourque@flsc.ca, jcrosbie@pattersonpalmer.ca,
gbyrne@pattersonpalmer.ca, corp.website@sunlife.com,
cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca, shickman@pattersonpalmer.ca,
lrikleen@Bowditch.com, John.Conyers@mail.house.gov, smay@pattersonpalmer.ca,
bmosher@mosherchedore.ca, carterweb@emory.edu, Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us,
Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us, parkhill@stu.ca, plee@stu.ca,
kentlib@nbnet.nb.ca, police@fredericton.ca, wickedwanda3@adelphia.net
CC: guild@interlog.com, ombudsman@cbc.ca, lise@cmg.ca,
pacificpalate@telus.net, ajehman@hotmail.com, maureen_matthews@cbc.ca,
gerry@cmg.ca, bvessey@pei.eastlink.ca, sallypitt@hotmail.com,
garyparsons@nfld.net, neilmac@vzw.blackberry.net, deesdee@yahoo.com,
shawk_1999@yahoo.com, cari_blanchard@yahoo.com, cturner@nbnet.nb.ca,
briann@accesswave.ca, mplaurin@sympatico.ca, lebelb@nbnet.nb.ca,
slmsmbouchard@hotmail.com, maurice10@rogers.com, m.meldrum@ns.sympatico.ca,
twomech@nb.sympatico.ca, dugasp28@hotmail.com, embateman@hotmail.com,
sawebb@hotmail.com, pgcastle@hotmail.com, bsharpe@nl.rogers.com,
newschick@hotmail.com

Who are you to have me on your list? Go away.



--- David Amos wrote:

>
> Yo Mama
>
> In lieu of a Birthday card or gift this year
> I figured sending you our Joy Boy Max will have to
> do to cheer you up and then later this email may
> give you some more joy at the thought that it may
> give Deputy Dog a serious stroke or a minor hat
> attack at the very least. I have been waiting awhile
> to repond to the bastard's blog for your benefit as


Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:49:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: RE Communications in the Public Interest
To: liza_frulla@pch.gc.ca, Frulla.L@parl.gc.ca
CC: betty.macphee@crtc.gc.ca, ocrdct@hotmail.com, davidamos@bsn1.net

From: "Paul Dugas" dugasp28@hotmail.com
To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Moma and Max and Happy Birthday Cards
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:36:14 -0300

Please remove me from your email list thank you

Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 22:51:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: So much for ethical reporters the town I was born in EH?
To: dugasp28@hotmail.com, m.meldrum@ns.sympatico.ca, maurice10@rogers.com




Suzanne Gaudet is just like Bill Hamilton, She plays the see no evil, hear no evil speak no evil game. While Maurice Doiron, Murray Meldrum and Paul Duhas just opt to play dumb. What must Liza Frulla think of all this. From my point of view you do nothing so why not replace you with nothing at at. It is cheaper for the Taxpayer to keep piping in the BBC. Bullshit is Bullshit no matter what the accent.


twomech@nb.sympatico.ca wrote:

From: twomech@nb.sympatico.ca
To: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Hey Duffy I know why Dr. Hamm quit and why dog MacKay don't hunt in Nova Scotia
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:00:42 -0400

Please remove me from your mailing list. Thank you.

>
> From: David Amos
> Date: 2005/09/30 Fri AM 08:40:44 EST
> To: duffy@ctv.ca, martine.turcotte@bell.ca, news@ctv.ca, am@ctv.ca,
> diane.bourque@flsc.ca, jcrosbie@pattersonpalmer.ca,
> gbyrne@pattersonpalmer.ca, corp.website@sunlife.com,
> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca, shickman@pattersonpalmer.ca,
> lrikleen@Bowditch.com, John.Conyers@mail.house.gov, smay@pattersonpalmer.ca,
> bmosher@mosherchedore.ca, carterweb@emory.edu, Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us,

Hey Lady Liza Frulla
I got the following response from the email I just sent to one of your underlings Ms. Macphee so I called the number she suggested and got the usual governmental voicemail from her help so I left a message. I got a call back just now from her assistant at 819 997-0313. I told her that I would send this email to you and she affirmed my right to do so. However when she attempted to lay down the law to me, I told her I would see her in court. I prefer to argue their lawyers in court rather than spit and chew with civil servants on the phone on my dime. More importantly to me is that I responded to you her Minister byway of email because I require hard copy for evidence to use during the pending arguments of the complaint against the Crown that I do intend to file in Federal Court in Fredericton New Brunswick soon. I am sending you two more emails after this one because my lawyer advised awhile ago to try hard to make my matters well none to the media. From this point forward as the Minister who oversees the CRTC who can never saw that you did not know what many other have known for quite sometime. For what is worth in my humble opinion if you play your political cards right you could be our first Lady Prime Minister.
I will give you Ms. Frulla the weekend to respond to me before I send this particular email to many others but many others will be receiving what Ms. Macphee aready got. I do not care what her assistant Ms Gable may think. She can gab to somebody else about what she wishes to inform me of. I have done my homework and need no advice from the likes of her. What Ms. Gable may not understand about me is that unlike Paul Martin I am a man of my word. I am just like him in one regard. I am also a very fierce political animal who is is equal and opposite in all things that define men. Martin is evil. I am not. Martin is a very wealthy lawyer. I am a just poor layman. Martin is labeled as Honourable and I am called as crazy as a loon. However I am a man Martin is not. He is a snake. I am indeed a very Proud Canadian who is definitely not proud of the people who speak for me. Get it Ms. Frulla?
As Minister Responsible for Status of Women, you really should make certain that the integrity of all women in government does not come into question. From my point of view some women such as the Yankee Judges, Sidney Hanlon, Paula Carey and Cristina Harms for example do much harm to the reputation of your gender. What they have done to my little family in the USA in order to support the rampant public corruption in Canada and the USA should offend anyone with half a mind at all. My wife is a woman too after all. She has never done any wrong at all. Her only offence to the justice system was to stand against the politcally connected family members who had stolen her interests because no lawyer would dare speak for her. When she had her breakdown I took up the fight as any proud husband and father should. It is not only my right but my duty to protect my little Clan. The biggest difference in our genders is that men are not so quick to cry or back down from any bully. My wife is a very tender soul while I can be as mean as a the snake Paul Martin is.
The New World of the Internet has afforded me quite a weapon to do battle with against the likes of Paul Martin and all his crooked cohorts. There is still a place in this Old World for a fierce ethical warrior such as I. Otherwise crooked men and women who are merely low people in high places to me will walk all over us common ordinary folk. I am no physical threat to anyone. I do battle with the word not the sword. It is mightier. Anyone who once worked for CBC should understand that simple fact.
Furthermore this email is definitely not Spam. I am greatly offended when the powers that be label it as such and block it to protect their own greedy interests. Whether you or anyone else believe me or not, my communications are in the best interest of the public. I feel confident that it is much to the chagrin of the people who have failed the public trust in their elected and politically appointed positions. I suspect that is why Nancy Gabler sounded so pissed off just like the tone of Hélène Lapointe's email to me . Rest assured many Canadians will be reading this email after I sent it to you. It is me on the phone to your office right now after that I am putting a bunch of material in the mail and serving many lawyers in hand. My phone call is an ethical effort to introduce myself in order to prove to you that I am sincere.
I know what I have sent to many Members of Parliament during the course of the past two years and I keep very good record to prove simple truths. For certain you just made my list of people who may be naughty or nice. After Xmas Martin must see that Gomery tells his tale and the Canadian people will decide once again who they think is naughty and nice. As as the freedom loving individual that I am I will decide long before then in the hope that my opinions become well known before an election is called. Whereas the people cannot depend on the CBC etc. to report all things of public interest, I will rely on the Blog.
I have no doubt whatsoever that your buddies within the CBC reported heavily your run for a seat in Parliament last year. As one of our newest Ministers besides Belinda Stronach ask them for your own education why the CBC failed in their mandate to report my bid for a seat as well. Better yet if you want to have fun take it out with the nasty dudes inside the warroom of the PCO/PMO offices. I will wager my name is the biggest curse word in Parliament right now. I am certain that is why it is not said over the airwaves or put in print. From now on at least you can never say that you did not know my name too.
I am begging ya, please do not be like two other women who once worked for the CBC Adrienne Clarkson and Michaelle Jean. Nobody is that dumb. They must have deliberatly ignored my laments because Paul Martin directed them to. May I suggest that you read this entire email from the point of view of an ethical Minister in charge of the public interest of the Canadian people? Please do the right thing despite what the leader of your party may wish. If not as you talk the talk on TV etc in the coming months about the doings of CBC and Parliament etc I will walk the walk and complain of many politicans in court. History has proven that in the end the truth usually wins out even if it is ignored in court in the present tense.
By the way guess who is campaigning hard for a fall election? To have an election on Boxing Day is righteously fine by me. I ain't religious. Ask the Holy See or George W. Bush why. I dare ya.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

Excerpt from CTV.ca, Canada on Sep 27, 2005 of news by the Canadian Press

"CBC employees in Quebec and Moncton, N.B., are not affected by the lockout.

Information pickets set up early in the day under pouring rain didn't try to stop Prime Minister Paul Martin or Adrienne Clarkson, the Governor General, as they headed in for a morning news conference on Parliament Hill.

Clarkson, who will be replaced Tuesday by Michaelle Jean, governor-general designate, leaned out of her car to speak with CBC pickets.

At the rally, locked-out workers presented petitions signed by thousands of CBC fans calling for an end to the labour dispute.

Heritage Minister Liza Frulla acknowledged the anger of the Canadian public, telling the rally that cabinet ministers have been hearing demands that something be done to get the network back in business.

"All summer, we had messages from the population out there, messages from all through Canada, saying how they miss you," she told the rally. "



I just had to insert the campaign manager for Oscar Doucet for Leader Hélène Lapointe's answer in comical font. It is too funny to do other wise. How is is that dor the local NDP trying hard to play dumb?



"Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:28:40 -0300
Subject: Re: Free Thinkers please feel free to blog this.
From: Hélène Lapointe helenel@nb.sympatico.ca
To: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

I DON'T WANT TO RECEIVE YOUR E-MAIL ANYMORE. PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR
MAILING LIST!!!

Le vendredi, 30 sep 2005, à 10:30 Canada/Atlantic, David Amos a écrit :

> The CBC and all others in the media and governemnt will not relay
> this crap to the people. Perhaps we the people should all ask the
> politicians who were elected to speak for us why I have been compelled
> to sue the Queen and the Holy See along with the USA.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: duffy@ctv.ca ; martine.turcotte@bell.ca ; news@ctv.ca ; am@ctv.ca"

"Macphee, Betty" betty.macphee@crtc.gc.ca wrote:


Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Free Thinkers please feel free to blog this.
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:30:51 -0400
From: "Macphee, Betty" betty.macphee@crtc.gc.ca
To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com


I will be away from the office until Friday, September 30th. If you have any urgency, please send your email to Nancy Gabler or contact her at 997-4319.
Je serai absente du bureau justqu'au vendredi le 30 septembre. Si vous avez des urgences, svp envoyer votre courriel à Nancy Gabler où téléphoner à 997-4319.



Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 06:30:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Free Thinkers please feel free to blog this.
To: sahara@free-thinkersclub.com, publiceye@cbs.com, Leblanc.D@parl.gc.ca,
Murphy.S@parl.gc.ca, dmitchell@irvingmitchell.com,
contact@citizenscentre.com, cbc@crimlaw.ca,
belanger.jean-daniel@psio-bifp.gc.ca, pgriffin@lsrsg.com,
jlaskin@torys.com, wbrock@dwpv.com, carley@lutz.nb.ca,
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crgeditor@yahoo.com, jeff.mockler@gnb.ca
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ottawacomments@state.gov, Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca, Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca,
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Stephane.Emard-Chabot@uOttawa.ca, Chantale.Fore@uOttawa.ca,
exec@casis.ca, gkealey@unb.ca, dgollob@cna-acj.ca,
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rocht@iclmg.ca, katiag@ccic.ca, admin@cbanb.com, info@cba.org



The CBC and all others in the media and governemnt will not relay this crap to the people. Perhaps we the people should all ask the politicians who were elected to speak for us why I have been compelled to sue the Queen and the Holy See along with the USA.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: duffy@ctv.ca ; martine.turcotte@bell.ca ; news@ctv.ca ; am@ctv.ca ; diane.bourque@flsc.ca ; jcrosbie@pattersonpalmer.ca ; gbyrne@pattersonpalmer.ca ; corp.website@sunlife.com ; cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; shickman@pattersonpalmer.ca ; lrikleen@Bowditch.com ; John.Conyers@mail.house.gov ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ; bmosher@mosherchedore.ca ; carterweb@emory.edu ; Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ; parkhill@stu.ca ; plee@stu.ca ; kentlib@nbnet.nb.ca ; police@fredericton.ca ; davidamos@bsn1.net
Cc: guild@interlog.com ; ombudsman@cbc.ca ; lise@cmg.ca ; pacificpalate@telus.net ; ajehman@hotmail.com ; maureen_matthews@cbc.ca ; gerry@cmg.ca ; bvessey@pei.eastlink.ca ; sallypitt@hotmail.com ; garyparsons@nfld.net ; neilmac@vzw.blackberry.net ; deesdee@yahoo.com ; shawk_1999@yahoo.com ; cari_blanchard@yahoo.com ; cturner@nbnet.nb.ca ; briann@accesswave.ca ; mplaurin@sympatico.ca ; lebelb@nbnet.nb.ca ; slmsmbouchard@hotmail.com ; maurice10@rogers.com ; m.meldrum@ns.sympatico.ca ; twomech@nb.sympatico.ca ; dugasp28@hotmail.com ; embateman@hotmail.com ; sawebb@hotmail.com ; pgcastle@hotmail.com ; bsharpe@nl.rogers.com ; newschick@hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:40 AM
Subject: Hey Duffy I know why Dr. Hamm quit and why the little dog MacKay don't hunt in Nova Scotia(slightly edited DRA)


The sad part is so do you people. I am gonna tell everybody the truth about what CTV and CBC have refused to report for years for the benefit of the rampant public corruption you support for your own personal gain. Need I say that I am happy the crooked CBC dudes are locked out of work right now? It appears to me that blogging is the only way to go these days. What say you? Call me a liar after you hear me speak in Federal Court in Fredericton in the near future. I dare ya to have your lawyer Martine Turcotte explain why Robert C. Pozen has become George W. Bush's favorite Democrat. Better why not ask Sunlife's Yankee lawyer Jeffery Carp why a proud Maritimer smells a lot of rotten fish in Beantown.

Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:43:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Dr. Hamm you picked an interesting day to Quit
To: premier@gov.ns.ca, jdewolfe@ns.sympatico.ca,
michael.baker@ns.sympatico.ca, morse.mla@ns.sympatico.ca,
parentma@gov.ns.ca, rodneym@ns.sympatico.ca, rrussellmla@ns.sympatico.ca,
barnetbe@gov.ns.ca, ronchisholmmla@auracom.com,
bill.dooks@ns.sympatico.ca, elf@ns.sympatico.ca,
bill.langille@ns.sympatico.ca, btaylormla@rushcomm.ca,
chatawaymla@hfxeastlink.ca, mlaclarke@ns.sympatico.ca,
Peter.Christie@ns.sympatico.ca, dentreca@gov.ns.ca,
a.macisaac@ns.sympatico.ca, rhurlburt@auracom.com, hinesgb@gov.ns.ca,
educmin@gov.ns.ca, codonnellmla@ns.sympatico.ca,
kgmorashmla@ns.aliantzinc.ca, Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca
CC: john.macdonell@ns.sympatico.ca, mmacdonald@navnet.net,
mhraymondmla@eastlink.ca, wilsond@gov.ns.ca,
marilynmoremla@ns.aliantzinc.ca, jpye@ns.sympatico.ca,
joanmasseymla@ns.aliantzinc.ca, gaudetw@gov.ns.ca, mackinrv@gov.ns.ca,
macdonman@gov.ns.ca, gordiegosse@ns.aliantzinc.ca,
corbettmlacentre@ns.sympatico.ca, stephenmcneil@ns.aliantzinc.ca,
boudrebv@gov.ns.ca, billestabrooks@navnet.net,
davidawilsonmla@eastlink.ca, samsonmp@gov.ns.ca,
charlieparkermla@ns.aliantzinc.ca, Regan.G@parl.gc.ca


Looks like I am about to rain on your party. Perhaps the sneaky political/lawyers Regan and MacKay will tell you why if your own lawyer Mikey Baker won't do so.



"As premier, I am proud of our record,'' Hamm said.

Unlike many of his predecessors, the family doctor is leaving office without a cloud of controversy hanging over his head.



----- Original Message -----

From: David Amos
To: Sgro.J@parl.gc.ca ; legerv@sen.parl.gc.ca ; trenhm@sen.parl.gc.ca ; ringup@sen.parl.gc.ca ; losier@sen.parl.gc.ca ; Thibault.L@parl.gc.ca ; Poirier-Rivard.D@parl.gc.ca ; Picard.P@parl.gc.ca ; Lavallee.C@parl.gc.ca ; Guay.M@parl.gc.ca ; Gagnon.C@parl.gc.ca ; Faille.M@parl.gc.ca ; Deschamps.J@parl.gc.ca ; Demers.N@parl.gc.ca ; Brunelle.P@parl.gc.ca ; Bourgeois.D@parl.gc.ca ; Bonsant.F@parl.gc.ca ; oec-bce@parl.gc.ca
Cc: buckley@pol.state.ma.us ; steve@djflynn.com ; ombud@globe.com ; paul@djflynn.com ; dan@djflynn.com ; letter@globe.com ; publicrelations@cubanmission.com ; rusun@un.int ; france-presse@un.int ; uk@un.int ; contact@germany-un.org ; c103@c103.com ; general.info@thomson.com ; davidamos@bsn1.net
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:16 PM
Subject: I bet a man named Mr. Tax who works for the Justice Dept doubts that he will



----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: scottmk@gov.ns.ca ; bev.harrison@gnb.ca ; ted.tax@justice.gc.ca ; graham@grahamsteele.ca ; hepstein@supercity.ns.ca ; deveaux.mla@ns.sympatico.ca ; ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca
Cc: davidamos@bsn1.net ; BBACHRACH@bowditch.com ; adams_sammon@msn.com ; fbinhct@leo.gov ; david@lutz.nb.ca ; HeafeyS@cpc-cpp.gc.ca ; alicia.mcdonnell@state.ma.us ; Scott.A@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:08 AM
Subject: Hey Ted Tax as soon as I saw that the Lt. Gov had honoured you


I figured you would do nothing to rock the Queen's boat for reasons of job security. However even you and your pension funds rely on the ethics of the Yankees employed by the SEC in the USA. Perhaps you should side with me ASAP. My kids need a roof over their heads. I am not above suing anyone to get one including the Queen and the Holy See. However it is your job to prosecute criminals not mine. Correct?



"Ted Tax and the Department's Atlantic Regional Office (ARO) were honoured at a Nova Scotia Lieutenant Governor's Awards Ceremony. Tax was presented with a Certificate of Recognition for "contribution to the Reserve Force by taking positive action to assist its employees who are reservists in maintaining their commitments to the Canadian Forces." Following September 11, 2001, there was an increase in the demand for military legal officers on operational deployments. Major John Smithers, a lawyer with the Tax Law Services Section of the ARO, was granted military leave to serve on an overseas mission."



For the record this is the text of the cover letter sent to Baker etc. Lets see what Mr. Speaker has to say now. I believe he is an ex cop ain't he? Lets see if he remembers how to uphold the law. If not don't you think it is high time that the lawyers in the NDP give the crooked Conservative Goverment the Boot? Everybody knows they are lapdogs for George W. Bush. Why else did he make it a point to fly down and see them last year and snub Paul Martin and his cohorts in Ottawa?



July 31st, 2005

Lt. Gov. J. Léonce Bernard Lt. Gov. Myra A. Freeman

Premier Pat G. Binns Premier John F. Hamm

c/o Att. Gen. Mildred A. Dover c/o Att. Gen. Michael Baker

Fourth Floor, Shaw Building, North Department of Justice 4th Floor
105 Rochford Street Room 5151 Terminal Road

P.O. Box 2000 P.O. Box 7
Charlottetown, PEI C1A 7N8 Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2L6



Lt. Gov. Norman L. Kwong Lt. Gov. Iona V. Campagnolo

Premier Ralph Klein Premier Gordon Campbell

c/o Att. Gen. Ron Stevens c/o Att. Gen. Wally Oppal

208 Legislature Building Stn Prov Govt PO Box 9044

9E210800 - 97 Avenue Parliament Buildings East Annex

Edmonton, Alberta T5K 2B6 Victoria, BC V8V 1X4


RE: Public Corruption

Hey,

Apparently everybody wanted to play dumb about my concerns and allegations so that Humpty Dumpty Martin’s minority government would not fall and they could party hardy while the Queen was in Canada. As you all know months ago, I began faxing, emailing and calling the eight other Lt. Governors I had yet to cross paths with. I fully informed them of my indignation towards the Governor General Clarkson and two of her other Maritime Lieutenants Roberts and Chaisson before the latest wave of bad acting Yankees invaded my home in the USA without warrants or due process if law.

I made certain all of the provincial Attorney Generals and Premiers can never deny the fact that I tried to make them well aware of my concerns and allegations in order to make everybody should sit up and pay attention. Not one person from any of your offices ever responded in any fashion at all. You can be certain that I expected the deliberate ignorance. It is one of the oldest tricks in the book that lawyers employ in order to play their wicked game of see no evil, hear no evil speak no evil. I knew it would happen particularly after Nova Scotia’s Conflict of Interest Commissioner Merlin Nunn had blocked my emails before I had contacted you. I have no doubt it helped to relieve him of his ethical dilemma before the NS NDP decided what to do about their chance to unseat the Conservatives. I have no doubt whatsoever many lawyers in Canada were praying that the Suffolk County District Attorney would have me back in the loony bin by April 28th and that all your troubles would go away. I opted to let you all have your way and did not bother you anymore until the Queen had left our shores and Parliament quit for the summer. Now it is my turn to have some fun and raise a little Political Hell.

While the Queen, Clarkson and Martin where all having a grand old time on the Canadian dime my little Clan went through living hell down here. Trust me, lawyers need to learn some new tricks. Ignorance is no excuse to the law or me. Making some Canadian Attorney Generals and their political buddies show me their arses is child’s play to me after all that I have experienced in the last few years. If you doubt me ask Michael J. Bryant and Yvon Marcoux why I am so pissed at their bosses and the DHS. Then check my work for yourself. If the tag team of John Ashcroft and Tom Ridge could not intimidate me, believe me you people don’t have a prayer. Both of those dudes have quit their jobs but I am still standing and squaring off against their replacements now. If it were not for all the decent folks I know, the snotty ones like you would make me feel ashamed to be a Canadian. There is no shortage of lawyers. It is just that ethical ones that are rare birds, that’s all. You must know how easily the Canadian people can replace you with other lawyers if it becomes widely known how willing you are to ignore crime if it means some fancy dude may be compelled to suffer for his own wrongs.

The justice system is supposed to be self-policing. It should clean up its own act rather than trying to maintain a false mask of integrity for lawyers that are obviously criminals. It is way beyond my understanding why you people would choose to support the likes of Paul Martin, Adrienne Clarkson, T. Alex Hickman and Billy Matthews if you are not all as crooked as hell as well. The deliberate ignorance and double-talk employed by the wealthy few to dodge simple truths is absolutely offensive to ordinary people blessed with the rare attribute called common sense. Not all folks are like sheep.

Paul Martin’s latest tricks make for a very fine example of truly how bad things are. Even amidst wholesale scandals breaking out hell, west and crooked everywhere lawyers and politicians just close ranks and stand together as thick as the thieves they are. I stress tested the ethics of the ladies of the Bloc Quebecois and the Gomery Inquiry immediately after Martin’s carefully orchestrated little circus in Parliament on May 19th was a matter of history. Lets just say I was not surprised to not hear one peep in response from anyone other than to get a call from an unidentified and very nervous but cocky Yankee lawyer claiming that Tony Blair was mad at me.

Pursuant to my phone calls, emails and faxes please find enclosed as promised exactly the same hard copy of what I sent to the Canadian Ambassadors Allan Rock and Franky Boy McKenna and a couple of nasty FBI agents on May 12th just before an interesting event in front of our home in Milton. I have also included a copy of four letters I have received in response since then that you may find interesting to say the least. I also sent you a copy of a letter sent to a lady Ms. Condolezza Rice whom our former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney considers to be the most powerful woman in the world. The CD of the copy of police surveillance tape # 139 is served upon all the above named Attorney Generals as officers of the court in order that it may be properly investigated.


I will not bother you with the details of what I am sending to you byway of the certified US Mail because I will be serving identical material to many other Canadian Authorities in hand and tell them I gave this stuff to you first and enclose a copy of this letter. All that is important to me right now is that I secure proof that this mail was sent before I make my way back home to the Maritimes. However I will say I am also enclosing a great deal more material than what Allan Rock had received in the UN. Some of it is in fact the same material the two maritime lawyers, Rob Moore and Franky Boy McKenna in particular received, while I was up home running for Parliament last year. Things have changed greatly in the past year so I have also included a few recent items to spice things up for you. I am tired of trying to convince people employed in law enforcement to uphold the law. So all I will say for now is deal will your own conscience and be careful how you respond to this letter. If you do not respond. Rest assured I will do my best to sue you some day. Ignorance is no excuse to the law or me.

Veritas Vincit

David R. Amos

153 Alvin Ave

Milton, MA. 02186




The enclosed letter from The Public Service Integrity Office, whose boss recently testified before the Gomery Inquiry and following quotes prove why I must speak out.

"Well what do you expect?" said Le Hir in reaction. "Anybody who had been involved in that kind of thing isn't going to admit readily, or willfully, to having participated." Asked why he's waited 10 years to come out with his allegations, Le Hir said he was "sworn to secrecy.""I'm breaking that oath, and the only way I could have been relieved by that oath was by a judge in a court saying, 'Mr. Lehir, I understand that you have made an oath of secrecy; and you're hereby relieved of that oath."

"Mr. Wallace added that police and the courts, not internal rules, are best-equipped to deal with bureaucrats who cross the line and break the law. But Judge Gomery did not appear satisfied. "It takes a major scandal to get the police involved," he said. "It is not in the nature of the public service to call in the police."

Everybody knows that in order to protect the rights and interests of my Clan and to sooth my own soul, I have proven many times over that all lawyers, law enforcement authorities, and politicians in Canada and the USA are not worthy of the public trust. I maintain that their first order of business is to protect the evil longstanding system they have created for their own benefit rather than the people they claim to serve. Call me a liar and put it in writing. I Double Dog Dare ya.



Baker got my material. So did everyone else. Only the Attorney General in Quecbec refused it. I bet our newest Governor General knows why. It is likely for the same reason she will not accept my emails. It should be obvious to anyone why I must sue the Crown.



USPS Track and Confirm

Label/Receipt Number: ED71 7170 440U S
Detailed Results:

Delivered Abroad, August 05, 2005, 9:23 am, CANADA

At Foreign Delivery Unit, August 05, 2005, 8:10 am, CANADA

Out of Foreign Customs, August 04, 2005, 2:52 pm, CANADA

Into Foreign Customs, August 04, 2005, 2:22 pm, CANADA

Arrived Abroad, August 04, 2005, 2:22 pm, CANADA

International Dispatch, August 03, 2005, 10:28 am, KENNEDY AMC

Enroute, August 03, 2005, 9:08 am, JAMAICA, NY 11499

Acceptance, August 02, 2005, 10:32 am, QUINCY, MA 02169

 

 

 

 

Methinks somebody in CBC should say hey to your old buddies Landslide Annie and Big Bad Billy Blair for me N'esy Pas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger???

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Methinks somebody in CBC should say hey to your old buddies Landslide Annie and Big Bad Billy Blair for me N'esy Pas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger???  

 

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/11/methinks-somebody-in-cbc-should-say-hey.html

 
 

 #nbpoli#cdnpoli

 

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/nova-scotia-shooting-13-deadly-hours

 

 







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Methinks the CBC will NEVER reveal the truth This will be another attempt to make the RCMP appear to be not as incompetent and corrupt as they truly are N'esy Pas? 

 

 davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/indepe


 #nbpoli#cdnpoli



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/community/fifth-estate-premiere-1.5809952

 

Season premiere: Documentary about the N.S. shootings

Thirteen Deadly Hours: The Nova Scotia Shootings airs Monday, Nov. 23 at 9 p.m. on CBC TV / CBC Gem

 

CBC Communications· Posted: Nov 20, 2020 2:28 PM AT

 

 

The Fifth Estate presents a comprehensive inquiry into this year's mass shooting in Nova Scotia, chronicling 13 hours of mayhem that constitute one of Canada's deadliest events. We hear from the families of many of the 22 victims, and the terrible final moments their loved ones faced. Many questions remain about how the RCMP responded to the situation, and whether enough was done to protect the community.

Watch The Fifth Estate Monday, Nov. 23 9 p.m. (9:30 NT) on CBC TV and CBC Gem.

Tune in to CBC Nova Scotia News Tuesday at 6 p.m. for an encore broadcast. 

Related stories: 

CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjxatZIus_o


Police Corruption? Nova Scotia Shooter - Behind The Scenes


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Nova Scotia Shooter Behind The Scenes with Paul Palango a former senior editor at The Globe and Mail and author of three books on the RCMP, the most recent being Dispersing the Fog, Inside the Secret World of Ottawa and the RCMP. His work on the Nova Scotia massacre has been published in MacLeans and the Halifax Examiner.
 
 
---------- Original message ----------
From: Timothy Bousquet <tim@halifaxexaminer.ca>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 05:41:36 -0300
Subject: Re: fea3
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

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please email zane@halifaxexaminer.ca.

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----------Origiinal message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:09:14 -0300
Subject: RE The "Strike back: Demand an inquiry Event." What a
difference a day makes EH? Notice CBC ain't talking about this yet?
To: "darrow.macintyre"<darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "barbara.massey"
< barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki"
< Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, washington field
< washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "Frank.McKenna"<Frank.McKenna@td.com>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, prmibullrun@gmail.com,
"Catherine.Tait"<Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca>, "Chuck.Thompson"
< Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca>



----------Origiinal message ----------
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:04:25 +0000
Subject: RE: YO Bill.Blair Now that a full Public Inquiry is in order
Methinks people such as Anne McLellan, Ralph Goodale Leanne Fitch,
Allan Carroll, Mark Furey and YOU should testify under oath N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

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----------Origiinal message ----------
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:04:54 +0000
Subject: Automatic Reply
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

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Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government

 

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Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government - Peter Mac Issac
 
 ----------Origiinal message ----------
 From: Peter Mac Isaac <prmibullrun@gmail.com>
 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:42:20 -0300
 Subject: Re: RE The "Strike back: Demand an inquiry Event." Methinks
it interesting that Martha Paynter is supported by the Pierre Elliott
 Trudeau Foundation N'esy Pas?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

 A lot of info to chew on - every now and then we win one - Today we
 won a partial victory when the provincial liberals threw the federal
 liberals under the bus forcing their hand . Now the spin will be to
 get a judge they can control.
 
 
 
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 04:40:12 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: 13 deadly hours Perhaps Elizabeth McMillan
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Thank you for your email. I will be attending outside meetings during
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Subject: Automatic reply: 13 deadly hours Perhaps Elizabeth McMillan
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Blair, Member of Parliament for Scarborough Southwest.

Please be advised that as a health and safety precaution, our
constituency office will not be holding in-person meetings until
further notice. We will continue to provide service during our regular
office hours, both over the phone and via email.

Due to the high volume of emails and calls we are receiving, our
office prioritizes requests on the basis of urgency and in relation to
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are not a constituent of Scarborough Southwest, please reach out to
your local of Member of Parliament for assistance. To find your local
MP, visit: https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en

Moreover, at this time, we ask that you please only call our office if
your case is extremely urgent. We are experiencing an extremely high
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Should you have any questions related to COVID-19, please see:
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MP Staff to the Hon. Bill Blair
Parliament Hill: 613-995-0284
Constituency Office: 416-261-8613
bill.blair@parl.gc.ca<mailto:bill.blair@parl.gc.ca>

**
Merci beaucoup d'avoir pris contact avec le bureau de l'Honorable Bill
Blair, D?put? de Scarborough-Sud-Ouest.

Veuillez noter que par mesure de pr?caution en mati?re de sant? et de
s?curit?, notre bureau de circonscription ne tiendra pas de r?unions
en personne jusqu'? nouvel ordre. Nous continuerons ? fournir des
services pendant nos heures de bureau habituelles, tant par t?l?phone
que par courrier ?lectronique.

En raison du volume ?lev? de courriels que nous recevons, notre bureau
classe les demandes par ordre de priorit? en fonction de leur urgence
et de notre r?le dans le service aux ?lecteurs de Scarborough
Sud-Ouest. Si vous n'?tes pas un ?lecteur de Scarborough Sud-Ouest,
veuillez contacter votre d?put? local pour obtenir de l'aide. Pour
trouver votre d?put? local, visitez le
site:https://www.noscommunes.ca/members/fr

En outre, nous vous demandons de ne t?l?phoner ? notre bureau que si
votre cas est extr?mement urgent. Nous recevons un volume d'appels
extr?mement ?lev? et nous serons mieux ? m?me de vous servir par
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Si vous avez des questions concernant COVID-19, veuillez consulter le
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Merci encore pour votre message, et nous vous r?pondrons d?s que possible.

Cordialement,

Personnel du D?put? de l'Honorable Bill Blair
Colline du Parlement : 613-995-0284
Bureau de Circonscription : 416-261-8613
bill.blair@parl.gc.ca<mailto:bill.blair@parl.gc.ca>
< mailto:bill.blair@parl.gc.ca>

On 11/23/20, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/nova-scotia-shooting-13-deadly-hours
>
>
> 13 deadly hours
>
> November 22, 2020
>
> Over 13 hours, a man disguised as a Mountie travelled nearly 200
> kilometres through Nova Scotia, killing 22 people. The Fifth Estate
> explores what the RCMP knew about the gunman that night, how they
> remained one step behind and why the public was left in the dark.
>
> Text by Elizabeth McMillan and Lisa Mayor
>
> Editing by Janet Davison
>
> "It seems to me that the RCMP are not wanting the entire story to come
> out about how the response to this tragedy took place," Rob Pineo, a
> lawyer representing the families of the victims in a lawsuit against
> the shooter's estate, told The Fifth Estate. "To be frank, [their
> response] seems to be quite embarrassing [for the RCMP]."
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/rallies-continue-push-for-public.html
>
>
> Wednesday, 29 July 2020
>
> Federal and provincial governments to hold public inquiry into Nova
> Scotia mass shootings
>
>
> https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
>
> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos
> Methinks lots of folks may enjoy what Peter Mac Issac and his cohorts
> said while the RCMP and a lot of LIEbranos were stuttering and
> doubletalking bigtime N'esy Pas?
>
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/rallies-continue-push-for-public.html
>
>
>   #nbpoli #cdnpoli
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioT6vj0zA_Q&t=3045s
>
>
> Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government
> 18,724 views
> •Streamed live on Jul 27, 2020
>
>
> Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson
> 38K subscribers
> Citizens Rise Against Corruption in Trudeau Government - Peter Mac Issac
>
>
> ----------Origiinal message ----------
> From: Sean.Fraser@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 10:33:11 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: YO Melanie Joly and Pablo Rodriguez Methinks
> Steven Guilbeault, his buddy Catherine Tait and all your former nasty
> minions in CBC must take courses on playing dumb N'esy Pas?
> To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com
>
> Thank you for your message. Please note that due to the volume of
> inquiries our offices are receiving, I have written an automated
> message below, and I have attached frequently asked questions to try
> and address some of the common things we are hearing about. If you
> still have questions about the Government’s response to COVID-19 after
> reading the below, please reply to this e-mail and we will be pleased
> to assist you.
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Pineo, Robert"<RPineo@pattersonlaw.ca>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:25:26 +0000
> Subject: Re: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by
> “Independent Review” I just called Correct?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>, "McCulloch, Sandra"
> < smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca>
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Why are you quoting my statement back to me?
>
> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:53 AM
> To: smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca; rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca
> Cc: motomaniac333
> Subject: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent
> Review” I just called Correct?
>
> http://www.pattersonlaw.ca/News/NewsArticleView/tabid/179/ArticleId/1746/Families-of-Shooting-Victims-Disappointed-by-Independent-Review.aspx
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "McCulloch, Sandra"<smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:53:30 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed
> by “Independent Review” I just called Correct?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
>
>
> Thank you for your email. I will be away from my office conducting
> discovery examinations on July 27th through 29th.  I will respond to
> your e-mail as soon as possible.  Please contact 902.897.2000 if your
> matter requires more urgent
> attention.https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/nova-scotia-shooting-13-deadly-hours
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:53:20 -0300
> Subject: RE Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent
> Review” I just called Correct?
> To: smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca, rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> http://www.pattersonlaw.ca/News/NewsArticleView/tabid/179/ArticleId/1746/Families-of-Shooting-Victims-Disappointed-by-Independent-Review.aspx
>
>
> Families of Shooting Victims Disappointed by “Independent Review”
>
> The “Independent Review” announced by Ministers Furey and Blair is
> wholly insufficient to meet the objectives of providing full and
> transparent answers to the families and the public, identifying
> deficiencies in responses, and providing meaningful lessons to be
> learned to avoid similar future tragedies.
>
> The choices of commissioners, and in particular Former Chief Justice
> Michael MacDonald, were thoughtful and appropriate for an inquiry.
> Former Chief Justice MacDonald is of the highest rank in judicial
> capabilities and is of unassailable integrity. That said, any
> decision- maker can only render decisions based on the information and
> evidence presented to them.
>
> The announced “independent review” model, to be conducted in a
> so-called “non- traumatic” and “restorative” way, will prejudice the
> panel by restricting the evidence and information being presented.
>
> In a public inquiry setting, such as was employed in the Marshall and
> Westray public inquiries, interested parties had the opportunity to
> question the witnesses. It is a very well- held maxim in our common
> law legal tradition, that cross-examination is the most effective
> truth-finding mechanism available. Without proper and thorough
> questioning, the panel will be left with incomplete and untested
> evidence upon which to base its decision. This is completely contrary
> to our Canadian notions of fair and transparent justice.
>
> Most disappointingly, Ministers Furey and Blair have hidden behind
> their contrived notion of a “trauma-free” process to exclude the full
> participation of the families under the guise of protecting them from
> further trauma. This is not how the families wish to be treated.
> Minister Furey has spoken with the families, so he must know that they
> want to participate, not to be “protected” by an incomplete process.
>
> The families want a full and transparent public inquiry. Why will
> Minister Furey not give them this? Why will he not give the citizens
> of Nova Scotia this? “We are all in this together” has been the slogan
> throughout 2020 - the families simply want us all, the public, to be
> in this together now to figure out a better tomorrow for families and
> the Province.
>
> For further inquiries, please contact:
>
> Robert H. Pineo
> 902-405-8177
> rpineo@pattersonlaw.ca
>
>
> Sandra L. McCulloch
> 902-896-6114
> smcculloch@pattersonlaw.ca
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:04:13 -0300
> Subject: YO Bill.Blair Now that a full Public Inquiry is in order
> Methinks people such as Anne McLellan, Ralph Goodale Leanne Fitch,
> Allan Carroll, Mark Furey and YOU should testify under oath N'esy Pas?
> To: Norman Traversy <traversy.n@gmail.com>, CabalCookies
> < cabalcookies@protonmail.com>, El.Jones@msvu.ca,
> tim@halifaxexaminer.ca, "steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
> kevin.leahy@pps-spp.gc.ca, Charles.Murray@gnb.ca, JUSTWEB
> < JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>, AgentMargaritaville@protonmail.com,
> "Bill.Blair"<Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca>, "kevin.leahy"
> < kevin.leahy@pps-spp.parl.gc.ca>, lagenomai4@protonmail.com,
> mlaritcey@bellaliant.com, mla@esmithmccrossinmla.com,
> toryrushtonmla@bellaliant.com, kelly@kellyregan.ca,
> mla_assistant@alanapaon.com, stephenmcneil@ns.aliantzinc.ca, PREMIER
> < PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, info@hughmackay.ca, pictoueastamanda@gmail.com,
> markfurey.mla@eastlink.ca, claudiachendermla@gmail.com,
> FinanceMinister@novascotia.ca, "Bill.Morneau"<Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
> kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, istayhealthy8@gmail.com,
> prmi@eastlink.ca, "PETER.MACKAY"<PETER.MACKAY@bakermckenzie.com>,
> "Katie.Telford"<Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:48:08 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: RE The "Strike back: Demand an inquiry
> Event." Methinks it interesting that Martha Paynter is supported by
> the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation N'esy Pas?
> To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com
>
> Thank you very much for reaching out to the Office of the Hon. Bill
> Blair, Member of Parliament for Scarborough Southwest.
>
> Please be advised that as a health and safety precaution, our
> constituency office will not be holding in-person meetings until
> further notice. We will continue to provide service during our regular
> office hours, both over the phone and via email.
>
> Due to the high volume of emails and calls we are receiving, our
> office prioritizes requests on the basis of urgency and in relation to
> our role in serving the constituents of Scarborough Southwest. If you
> are not a constituent of Scarborough Southwest, please reach out to
> your local of Member of Parliament for assistance. To find your local
> MP, visit: https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en
>
> Moreover, at this time, we ask that you please only call our office if
> your case is extremely urgent. We are experiencing an extremely high
> volume of calls, and will better be able to serve you through email.
>
> Should you have any questions related to COVID-19, please see:
> www.canada.ca/coronavirus<http://www.canada.ca/coronavirus>
>
> Thank you again for your message, and we will get back to you as soon
> as possible.
>
> Best,
>
>
> MP Staff to the Hon. Bill Blair
> Parliament Hill: 613-995-0284
> Constituency Office: 416-261-8613
> bill.blair@parl.gc.cabill.blair@parl.gc.ca
>
>>
>
> **
> Merci beaucoup d'avoir pris contact avec le bureau de l'Honorable Bill
> Blair, D?put? de Scarborough-Sud-Ouest.
>
> Veuillez noter que par mesure de pr?caution en mati?re de sant? et de
> s?curit?, notre bureau de circonscription ne tiendra pas de r?unions
> en personne jusqu'? nouvel ordre. Nous continuerons ? fournir des
> services pendant nos heures de bureau habituelles, tant par t?l?phone
> que par courrier ?lectronique.
>
> En raison du volume ?lev? de courriels que nous recevons, notre bureau
> classe les demandes par ordre de priorit? en fonction de leur urgence
> et de notre r?le dans le service aux ?lecteurs de Scarborough
> Sud-Ouest. Si vous n'?tes pas un ?lecteur de Scarborough Sud-Ouest,
> veuillez contacter votre d?put? local pour obtenir de l'aide. Pour
> trouver votre d?put? local, visitez le
> site:https://www.noscommunes.ca/members/fr
>
> En outre, nous vous demandons de ne t?l?phoner ? notre bureau que si
> votre cas est extr?mement urgent. Nous recevons un volume d'appels
> extr?mement ?lev? et nous serons mieux ? m?me de vous servir par
> courrier ?lectronique.
>
> Si vous avez des questions concernant COVID-19, veuillez consulter le
> site : http://www.canada.ca/le-coronavirus
>
> Merci encore pour votre message, et nous vous r?pondrons d?s que possible.
>
> Cordialement,
>
> Personnel du D?put? de l'Honorable Bill Blair
> Colline du Parlement : 613-995-0284
> Bureau de Circonscription : 416-261-8613
> bill.blair@parl.gc.cabill.blair@parl.gc.ca>
> < mailto:bill.blair@parl.gc.ca>
>
>
> After backlash, governments agree to hold public inquiry into Nova
> Scotia shooting
> By Alexander Quon & Elizabeth McSheffrey Global News
> Posted July 28, 2020 10:42 am
>
> WATCH: The federal government is now proceeding with a public inquiry
> into the Nova Scotia massacre that left 22 innocent people dead in
> April. Elizabeth McSheffrey looks at why Ottawa is changing paths now,
> and what the inquiry has the power to do.
>
> The decision to hold a review into the mass killing in April that
> resulted in the deaths of 22 people in Nova Scotia took three months
> to arrange. In less than a week the decision has been undone after a
> massive wave of public backlash.
>
> Federal Public Safety Minister Bill Blair announced on Tuesday a
> public inquiry will be held into the mass shooting that began in
> Portapique, N.S. on April 18 and came to an end nearly 100 km away, 13
> hours later.
>
> “The Government of Canada is now proceeding with a full Public
> Inquiry, under the authority of the Inquiries Act,” said Blair in a
> statement.
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: Allan Carroll <allan.carroll@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:14:09 -0400
> Subject: Re: Trust that Murray Segal's appointment to whitewash the
> Rehteah Parsons matter did not surprise me after the meail I sent this
> weekend (AOL)
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> I will be AOL commencing  July 27, 2013  and returning on August 13,
> 2013.  Cpl David Baldwin of Amherst Det will be assuming my duties
> during my absence. Should you require immediate assistance, please
> contact the main Amherst office number at 902-667-3859.
>
> For inquiries about the Crisis Negotiation Team, please contact
> Sgt.Royce MacRae at 902-720-5426 (w) or 902-471-8776 (c)
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Fitch, Leanne"<leanne.fitch@fredericton.ca>
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:05:24 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court file no T-1557-15 Now this
> is interesting As soon as Brad Wall got reelected as Premier he began
> blocking my email Go Figure EH David Drummond???
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Due to a very high volume of incoming email to this account there is
> an unusual backlog of pending responses. Your query may not be repleid
> to in a timely fashion. If you require a formal response please send
> your query in writing to my attention c/o Fredericton Police Force,
> 311 Queen St, Fredericton, NB E3B 1B1 or phone (506) 460-2300.
>
> This e-mail communication (including any or all attachments) is
> intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is
> addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If
> you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, any use, review,
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> Any correspondence with elected officials, employees, or other agents
> of the City of Fredericton may be subject to disclosure under the
> provisions of the Province of New Brunswick Right to Information and
> Protection of Privacy Act.
>
> Le présent courriel (y compris toute pièce jointe) s'adresse
> uniquement à son destinataire, qu'il soit une personne ou un
> organisme, et pourrait comporter des renseignements privilégiés ou
> confidentiels. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire du courriel, il est
> interdit d'utiliser, de revoir, de retransmettre, de distribuer, de
> disséminer, de copier ou d'imprimer ce courriel, d'agir en vous y
> fiant ou de vous en servir de toute autre façon. Si vous avez reçu le
> présent courriel par erreur, prière de communiquer avec l'expéditeur
> et d'éliminer l'original du courriel, ainsi que toute copie
> électronique ou imprimée de celui-ci, immédiatement. Nous sommes
> reconnaissants de votre collaboration.
>
> Toute correspondance entre ou avec les employés ou les élus de la
> Ville de Fredericton pourrait être divulguée conformément aux
> dispositions de la Loi sur le droit à l’information et la protection
> de la vie privée.
>
> GOV-OP-073
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Hon.Ralph.Goodale  (PS/SP)"<Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>
> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:39:00 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks this afternoon Harjit Sajjan and
> his minions should go to Federal Court pull my file (T-1557-15) from
> the docket then read statement 83 real slow N'esy Pas?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Merci d'avoir ?crit ? l'honorable Ralph Goodale, ministre de la
> S?curit? publique et de la Protection civile.
> En raison d'une augmentation importante du volume de la correspondance
> adress?e au ministre, veuillez prendre note qu'il pourrait y avoir un
> retard dans le traitement de votre courriel. Soyez assur? que votre
> message sera examin? avec attention.
> Merci!
> L'Unit? de la correspondance minist?rielle
> S?curit? publique Canada
> *********
>
> Thank you for writing to the Honourable Ralph Goodale, Minister of
> Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness.
> Due to the significant increase in the volume of correspondence
> addressed to the Minister, please note there could be a delay in
> processing your email. Rest assured that your message will be
> carefully reviewed.
> Thank you!
> Ministerial Correspondence Unit
> Public Safety Canada
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Fitch, Leanne"<leanne.fitch@fredericton.ca>
> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:38:59 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks this afternoon Harjit Sajjan and
> his minions should go to Federal Court pull my file (T-1557-15) from
> the docket then read statement 83 real slow N'esy Pas?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
>
> Due to a very high volume of incoming email to this account there is
> an unusual backlog of pending responses. Your message may not be
> responded to in a timely fashion. If you require a formal response
> please send your query in writing to my attention c/o Fredericton
> Police Force, 311 Queen St, Fredericton, NB E3B 1B1 or phone (506)
> 460-2300. If this is an emergency related to public safety please call
> 911.
>
> En raison du grand nombre de courriels que reçoit cette messagerie, il
> se peut qu’une réponse tarde un peu à venir. Si vous avez besoin d'une
> réponse officielle, veuillez envoyer votre demande par écrit à mon
> attention aux soins (a/s) de la Force policière de Fredericton 311,
> rue Queen, Fredericton, NB   E3B 1B1, ou composer le 506 460-2300.
> S'il s'agit d'une urgence de sécurité publique, faites le 911.
>
>
> This e-mail communication (including any or all attachments) is
> intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is
> addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If
> you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, any use, review,
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> strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
> contact the sender and delete the original and any copy of this e-mail
> and any printout thereof, immediately. Your co-operation is
> appreciated.
>
> Any correspondence with elected officials, employees, or other agents
> of the City of Fredericton may be subject to disclosure under the
> provisions of the Province of New Brunswick Right to Information and
> Protection of Privacy Act.
>
> Le présent courriel (y compris toute pièce jointe) s'adresse
> uniquement à son destinataire, qu'il soit une personne ou un
> organisme, et pourrait comporter des renseignements privilégiés ou
> confidentiels. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire du courriel, il est
> interdit d'utiliser, de revoir, de retransmettre, de distribuer, de
> disséminer, de copier ou d'imprimer ce courriel, d'agir en vous y
> fiant ou de vous en servir de toute autre façon. Si vous avez reçu le
> présent courriel par erreur, prière de communiquer avec l'expéditeur
> et d'éliminer l'original du courriel, ainsi que toute copie
> électronique ou imprimée de celui-ci, immédiatement. Nous sommes
> reconnaissants de votre collaboration.
>
> Toute correspondance entre ou avec les employés ou les élus de la
> Ville de Fredericton pourrait être divulguée conformément aux
> dispositions de la Loi sur le droit à l’information et la protection
> de la vie privée.
>
> GOV-OP-073
>
>
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>
>
> Friday, 18 September 2015
> David Raymond Amos Versus The Crown T-1557-15
>
 
 
 
 
 


 

13 deadly hours

Over 13 hours, a man disguised as a Mountie travelled nearly 200 kilometres through Nova Scotia, killing 22 people. The Fifth Estate explores what the RCMP knew about the gunman that night, how they remained one step behind and why the public was left in the dark.

November 22, 2020

It was just days before his 46th birthday and Greg Blair was finally mortgage- and debt-free. He and his wife, Jamie — affectionately known as Chicken to her friends and family — ran a business together, selling and installing propane and natural gas equipment across Nova Scotia. In their downtime, they loved being outdoors and spent their days surrounded by family.

"They're great people," Tyler Blair told The Fifth Estate. "Very hard workers. My father worked very hard his whole life and ... was about to start living life."

On the night of April 18, 2020, the Blairs hosted two neighbours for dinner in their rural community of Portapique. With COVID-19 restrictions in place, they ate steak and potatoes at a table set up in the garage with the doors open, allowing the cool spring air in.

After dinner, the couple planned to spend the evening burning some brush they'd cleared that day. But around 10 p.m. that night, their plans were interrupted.

  • WATCH | The Fifth Estate: 13 Deadly Hours on Monday, Nov. 23 at 9 p.m. on CBC-TV and CBC Gem

Gabriel Wortman wasn't a friend of the Blairs. The denturist had a log cottage on Portapique Beach Road, the next road over, and would drive by their house on the way to his other property, a lavish garage where he meticulously worked on his collection of motorcycles.

Parked inside that warehouse on Orchard Beach Road, unknown to many, was a fully marked replica police vehicle Wortman had put together.

People in the community considered Wortman eccentric. From time to time, he'd show off his bar with its extensive liquor supply inside the wood-panelled garage. But some who knew him say he was a nasty drunk and prone to fits of rage — whether it be directed at people he'd hire to work on his property or his long-term partner.

That April night, after RCMP say he got in an argument with his partner, Wortman started a rampage, killing 22 people across Nova Scotia in Canada's largest mass shooting in modern history: 13 people in Portapique; four in Wentworth; two in Debert; three more in Shubenacadie.

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And for almost 12 hours after he left the community, the people of Nova Scotia would receive little information from the RCMP about the danger that stalked rural roads; a man killing at random disguised as a Mountie.

The Fifth Estate has learned the RCMP received crucial details, including the identity of the suspect and that he was driving what appeared to be a fully marked replica police car, from the first person they encountered on the scene that night in Portapique at 10:26 p.m., nearly 12 hours before they shared it with the public — information victims' families say could have saved the lives of their loved ones.

Saturday: 10:01 p.m.

In the seven months since, Tyler Blair, 27, has learned only some of the specifics of what happened to his dad and stepmom that night.

He told The Fifth Estate that while his younger brothers, aged 10 and 12, were playing video games, his stepmother Jamie and the young boys heard Greg yell, "What the f--k are you doing with a gun?"

They heard a shot. In an instant, Greg was killed steps from his front door.

"That's when Jamie ran back into the [house] and got [my brothers] and pushed them down the hallway, and they all ran down into their bedroom," Tyler Blair said.

He said his stepmother called 911 at 10:01 p.m. She was the first person to alert the RCMP to a problem in Portapique. She stayed on the line while shielding her sons from the gunman on the other side of the bedroom door.

Greg and Jamie Blair were killed at their home as their two young sons hid under a bed, where a bullet nearly missed them as it went through the mattress. (Jamie Blair/Facebook)

Greg and Jamie Blair were killed at their home as their two young sons hid under a bed, where a bullet nearly missed them as it went through the mattress. (Jamie Blair/Facebook)  

"My two little brothers hid behind the bed, and Jamie put her back up against the interior door of their bedroom," Tyler Blair said. "He just shot right through it."

Much later, when Tyler went to the house to collect some of Greg and Jamie's things, he said he found at least eight bullet holes through that bedroom door.

"There's one that actually went through the mattress of the bed, where my little brothers were hiding, and probably missed them by about a foot," he said.

After witnessing their mother die, the young boys realized the gunman was trying to set the house on fire. The older boy found logs from their wood stove strewn across the floor. The propane stove was on, with hotdog and hamburger buns thrown on the top near the flaming elements.

Seven months later, bullet holes can be seen in a window and the exterior wall of the Blairs' house. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)

Seven months later, bullet holes can be seen in a window and the exterior wall of the Blairs' house. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)  

The brothers bolted through the woods towards their neighbour's house to seek help.

In the meantime, the shooter continued on his rampage through Portapique. Thirteen people would be dead by the time he left the community, and he was far from finished.

Saturday: About 10:05 p.m.

Next door to the Blairs, elementary school teacher Lisa McCully had been enjoying the saltwater air during her nightly ritual — a peaceful walk along the shore.

Portapique is a small, rural community overlooking a river that flows into Cobequid Bay, the easternmost tip of the Bay of Fundy. It's made up of a mix of cottages, trailers and homes nestled on the shore. There are a handful of gravel roads and no street lights. About 100 or so people call the area home, although the population doubles during the summer when families flock to the beach.

McCully moved to the area in part because she loved being close to nature. When she wasn't making music, the 49-year-old spent her free time hiking, doing yoga and playing with her children.

"She was fearless, she was your classic mama bear, she was so protective of everyone," said her sister Jenny Kierstead.

After McCully returned home and put her son and daughter to bed that evening, she noticed something troubling and stepped outside.

She lived directly across from Wortman's garage, though dense spruce trees usually blocked the view of anything beyond the driveway and the metal gate he normally kept locked. That night though, the building's frame was disintegrating against the moonless sky.

"She had gone out to see these flames that were higher than the tree line, and went out because she saw an RCMP officer," Kierstead said. "Probably [to] ask, should we evacuate, what the heck is going on?"

The burned-out patch of grass shows where Gabriel Wortman's garage used to be — directly across the road from Lisa McCully's red house. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)

The burned-out patch of grass shows where Gabriel Wortman's garage used to be — directly across the road from Lisa McCully's red house. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)  

McCully called 911 and then approached someone she thought was a Mountie there to help.

It was Wortman, dressed as an RCMP officer — standing near a marked vehicle. As she approached him, he shot and killed her.

Kierstead said it was reassuring to learn from police that her sister died instantly.

McCully's children remained inside alone but answered the door when the Blair boys later showed up looking for help. After calling 911, the four friends huddled under the stairs in the basement.

The RCMP dispatcher tried to keep them calm and told them to wait for someone to rescue them. The dispatcher told the kids an RCMP officer would have a special word they would tell the children so they would know it was a real officer — and that it was finally safe to come out.

Saturday: 10:20 p.m.

Lisa McCully wasn't the only person alarmed by the fire at Wortman's garage. After they noticed flames, a man and woman who lived up the road jumped in their car to get a closer look and called 911.

The man, who we'll refer to as PR, has never spoken publicly about his experience and declined to be interviewed.

TheFifth Estate obtained an audio statement he gave in August to a private investigator who is working on behalf of victims' families to investigate the events of that night.

In the statement, he describes telling the RCMP about being shot by Wortman in a mock-RCMP vehicle — information the RCMP didn't share with the public until more than 12 hours after they'd received it.

PR said that while driving to see what was going on, he and his wife spotted an RCMP vehicle parked in front of Frank and Dawn Gulenchyn's blue house at the top of Orchard Beach Drive.

Frank and Dawn Gulenchyn's retirement home in Portapique no longer exists. It was one of three homes belonging to victims that the gunman burned. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)

Frank and Dawn Gulenchyn's retirement home in Portapique no longer exists. It was one of three homes belonging to victims that the gunman burned. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)  

PR said they told the dispatcher that it appeared an RCMP officer was already on scene, but he found it strange that the car was empty and the roof lights weren't on.

The couple continued down the road towards the fire, and as they got closer realized it was coming from the denturist's garage. PR said he thought to call his neighbour Gabe and tell him, but remembered Gabe didn't have a cellphone. PR and Gabe were friendly — they'd been neighbours for nearly a decade. PR said they would have a beer together now and then or talk about working on cars or motorcycles.

After seeing the fire, PR and his wife turned around and went back up the road — still on the phone with 911, where the operator was trying to transfer them to the fire department. They stopped in front of the Gulenchyns' and noticed someone was now in the cruiser.

"Over the cop car and through the kitchen window the whole kitchen lit up on fire fast," PR said. "Like, fast. So, we kinda [thought], something's wrong."

"Not very often you see two fires at once and like, why is there a police officer here?" he said. "It didn't make sense."

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TheFifth Estate has learned that by that point, at least three people had called 911, including Jamie Blair, who reported that her husband was killed by a gunman before she, too, was shot shortly after 10 p.m.

But PR said the dispatcher didn't tell him what was going on. Months later, he told the investigator that he is still frustrated that he and his wife weren't warned of the danger ahead.

"So there's 20-some minutes before we called and ... they should have told us to get the f--k out of there, but they didn't," he said in the audio obtained by The Fifth Estate."Why didn't the dispatcher know to tell us to get out of there because people are getting shot?"

As they drove back towards their house, they noticed someone was in the RCMP car — and that person started driving towards them. The car pulled up beside PR and his wife.

"I rolled down the window to tell the RCMP officer that one, we're not lighting the fires, and two, we're on the phone with 911," PR said.

That's when the man he thought was an RCMP officer rolled down his own window and started firing a handgun at them.

PR recognized the shooter was his neighbour, Gabriel Wortman.

"We ducked quickly and I got shot in my forehead and one went through my arm," the audio tapes obtained by The Fifth Estate reveal. "My wife was OK but at that point I saw Gabe ... and I saw his gun. He had a laser sight on the gun and thank God he did, because if not I wouldn't have seen the handgun at all because it was dark."

Despite being hit twice — one bullet through the shoulder, the other grazing his forehead — PR managed to drive away.

Around 10:26, he encountered the first RCMP officer on scene. His account was confirmed in a summary of his police statement contained in search warrant documents CBC and other media organizations obtained in court.

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Clinton Ellison says he hid in the woods for hours after discovering the body of his brother, Corrie, the night of the mass shooting in Portapique.

The Fifth Estate has learned it was at this point PR told the RCMP officer that crucial information about the suspect and his disguise.

"I told [the RCMP officer] right away it's my neighbour Gabe," PR said in the audio tape. "[I told him] he had ... an RCMP car. I knew he had those cars but I'd never seen them badged ... So that's when I first told him it was him in the car."

The constable he told this to immediately relayed the information over his police radio, PR said.

By this point, PR said, there were three officers on scene: The first to whom he told the information, the second who checked his gunshot wounds to make sure he was OK and the third, who took him and his wife to the end of the road to wait for help.

"[That officer] was watching the woods to make sure nothing came out at us," he said in the interview obtained by The Fifth Estate.

"It was dark and it was terrifying for anybody there," he said. "I don't know how they, those first officers on scene, I can't imagine what they had to walk into."

RCMP 'overwhelmed'

Audio of Nova Scotia's Emergency Health Services (EHS) dispatch that night reveals that at 10:49 p.m., they were told RCMP were "overwhelmed" and needed help.

When the specialized Emergency Response Team (ERT) eventually arrived kitted out in SWAT gear from Halifax, 130 kilometres away, they tried to clear some houses on the first road in the subdivision — pounding on doors and telling people to get out fast. They left others to sleep through the night, unaware of what was happening around them.

But it's unclear what happened on the ground when police arrived. In the seven months since the tragedy, the RCMP would not say how many officers were dispatched but insist the support was sufficient and officers followed their training.

"As dictated by their training, their objective was to locate and to stop that threat," Supt. Darren Campbell said in a media conference on June 4. "This is exactly what those RCMP first responders were working towards."

Portapique is nestled on the shores of Cobequid Bay, which leads into the Bay of Fundy. Along the eastern edge, there is a dirt road along a blueberry field that the gunman used to get out of the community. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)

Portapique is nestled on the shores of Cobequid Bay, which leads into the Bay of Fundy. Along the eastern edge, there is a dirt road along a blueberry field that the gunman used to get out of the community. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)  

People who were in the area that night have a different story.

Witnesses have told The Fifth Estate the initial response consisted of three to four officers. How, when or even if they advanced on the scene in Portapique is still a mystery.

A neighbour, who spoke to The Fifth Estate on the condition of anonymity, said he didn't see any police presence on Orchard Beach Drive, the scene of six killings, until the emergency response team arrived at 12:45 a.m. Sunday — nearly three hours after he called 911 reporting gunshots.

Another resident, Leon Joudrey, said he encountered an ERT vehicle outside Wortman's burnt cottage but didn't see any police officers when he drove around Orchard Beach Road around 4 a.m., unaware his neighbours had been killed.

"It seems to me that the RCMP are not wanting the entire story to come out about how the response to this tragedy took place," Rob Pineo, a lawyer representing the families of the victims in a lawsuit against the shooter's estate, told The Fifth Estate. "To be frank, [their response] seems to be quite embarrassing [for the RCMP]."

The Fifth Estate has learned police didn't make it to the home of Emily, Jolene and Oliver Tuck until 19 hours after police believe they were killed in their home. Investigators would later tell family members they didn't discover the three bodies until 5 p.m. Sunday — 19 hours after police believe they were killed.

It would also take the RCMP more than two hours to rescue the four children hiding in Lisa McCully's basement.

The two McCully children and the two Blair children hid in the basement of Lisa McCully’s house for more than two hours, waiting for the RCMP to rescue them. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)

The two McCully children and the two Blair children hid in the basement of Lisa McCully’s house for more than two hours, waiting for the RCMP to rescue them. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)  

"It shouldn't take two hours to go in and get four young kids out of an area that you know some madman's running around with a gun," Blair told The Fifth Estate. "It is a f--king long time for them to be sitting there ... I don't know why somebody wasn't sent in earlier to get them out of there."

The RCMP later told their families that as many as six officers were stationed around the house to protect the children. But Blair doesn't buy it.

"The RCMP have been caught in so many lies already," he told The Fifth Estate. "It's hard for me to believe a word that comes out of their mouth."

On the ground and in their makeshift operations headquarters in a nearby firehall, the RCMP seemed to be putting the pieces together about the horror that had unfolded in Portapique.

Around 3 a.m., an RCMP investigator called PR to go over his story again. They spoke for about an hour and PR sent the investigator a photo of Wortman he'd found on Facebook, "just to confirm," he said.

PR said in total, he told the RCMP three times about Wortman and the marked car.

But it wouldn't be until 12 hours after PR's first conversation that the RCMP would share that crucial information with the public.

The RCMP has repeatedly refused to speak with The Fifth Estate about the mass shootings.

During the 13-hour rampage, the RCMP communicated with the public via Twitter. They'd later say they were counting on local media to relay information to the public.

At 11:32 p.m. the RCMP first tweeted they were dealing with a "firearms complaint" in Portapique — no mention of fires, a gunman or anyone being hurt or killed. 

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And critically, no mention of those key details The Fifth Estate has learned they were investigating overnight: that it was Wortman in a mock-RCMP vehicle.

According to internal bulletins that were circulated to police agencies across the province, by 1 a.m., the RCMP had identified the 51-year-old as a suspect who was "armed and dangerous" and associated him with "an old white police car."

The RCMP spent the night tracking vehicles associated with the gunman, including three decommissioned police cars. They found one white Ford Taurus burning at each of the shooter's properties in Portapique. A third would be located at his business in Dartmouth.

When all three cars had been accounted for, The Fifth Estate has learned the RCMP made a fateful assumption. By dawn, they concluded the gunman must have taken his own life — not an unusual outcome after a violent rampage — and thought they'd find the evidence somewhere in the rubble of his torched properties.

An RCMP source says some officers were even sent home at that point.

And while Mounties blocked off a section of Highway 2 connected to Portapique Beach Road, there was something else they hadn't realized: Portapique had a back way out — a dirt road along a blueberry field that leads to the highway, a few hundred metres from the subdivision's main entrance.

RCMP have said their investigation later determined the gunman escaped down that road about 20 minutes after police arrived — driving approximately 27 kilometres to the community of Debert. He spent the night parked behind a welding shop.

Sunday: 6:30 a.m.

The RCMP have always insisted they didn't know that Wortman was using a replica police car until around 6:30 a.m. Sunday.

"Those details came in their totality to us early in the morning of Sunday, after a key witness was located and interviewed," RCMP said in a media conference on April 22. "Prior to that time, we did not have all those details. The bulk of the details about our suspect came to us at that time."

That key witness was the gunman's spouse. Police say they got in a fight and he assaulted her, which was the start of the rampage that Saturday night.

The Fifth Estate has learned the woman told investigators that Wortman restrained her with a handcuff on one of her wrists. She said she escaped from the marked police car by crawling through the window in the divider between the front and backseat, fleeing and hiding until daybreak.

Around 8 a.m., after police spoke with her, an updated bulletin was sent out, telling other police forces the gunman was potentially driving a "fully marked Ford Taurus," and gave the car number. It warned "he could be anywhere in the province" and "was arrestable for homicide."

At almost the same time the RCMP was telling other police services that information, the force released its second tweet — saying there was an "active shooter" investigation in Portapique, not "anywhere in the province" as they had said internally.

Two hours later, around 9 a.m., the RCMP identified Wortman publicly as the suspected shooter in a tweet. But that tweet still contained no mention of a mock-RCMP car or a police uniform.

It wouldn't be until after 10 a.m. Sunday, and after the gunman killed 19 people, that police would release this information. It remains unclear why they waited.

They also didn't mention he could be anywhere in the province, as they'd identified internally — or even the possibility that he'd left Portapique, where he left behind the bodies of 13 of his neighbours.

Among those killed in Portapique were Jolene Oliver, Aaron Tuck and their daughter Emily and three couples who retired to Portapique in recent years: Joy and Peter Bond, Frank and Dawn Gulenchyn and John Zahl and Joanne Thomas. Corrie Ellison, 42, was also shot on Orchard Beach Road after going to see if anyone was in trouble when he spotted the flames at Wortman's warehouse. His brother, who discovered his body, hid in the woods for hours fearing the gunman was after him, too.

Seven months later, many families of 22 victims who were killed in Canada's largest mass shooting struggle with what they say is a lack of information from the RCMP. (CBC)

Seven months later, many families of 22 victims who were killed in Canada's largest mass shooting struggle with what they say is a lack of information from the RCMP. (CBC)  

Sunday: 6:30 a.m.

As word of the destruction began to travel informally among family and friends, people awoke to their normal Sunday routines. For those whose weekend rituals included scrolling through social media, some spotted posts about police activity in a corner of Colchester County.

At this point, the information released to the public via Twitter by the RCMP was still only that there was an active shooter in Portapique, and residents in that area should stay inside with their doors locked. People in other parts of the province were cautious, but saw no reason to worry.

But that bright Sunday morning, what looked like a Mountie in a patrol car was travelling north, taking the lone highway into the Wentworth Valley. He wouldn't stop until he was more than halfway across northern Nova Scotia.

Around 6:30 a.m., videos taken along a country road 50 kilometres from Portapique show the mock-RCMP cruiser with a distinctive black push bar heading to the home of Sean McLeod and Alanna Jenkins, who worked as managers at federal penitentiaries.

Sean and Alanna were father and stepmother to two daughters, who say their parents loved to host friends and their home on Hunter Road was always welcoming.

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"I wouldn't be who I am without him, like I grew up going fishing, hunting, like he taught me everything. They were really caring, selfless, loving, fun," said Sean's daughter Amielia McLeod.

The family does not know why the killer targeted them that morning or what he did during the three hours he spent at their home.

Police believe he killed the couple and their two dogs shortly after he arrived. Before he left, he set the house on fire and neighbours say in a matter of minutes, flames engulfed the wall of windows that faced the Wallace River where Sean and Alanna loved to spend their days floating.

In the early hours of April 19, 2020, the gunman travelled north from Portapique, taking the lone highway into the Wentworth Valley. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)

In the early hours of April 19, 2020, the gunman travelled north from Portapique, taking the lone highway into the Wentworth Valley. (Steve Lawrence/CBC) 

The gunman also killed Tom Bagley close to the deck of the home where McLeod and Jenkins lived. Bagley was a retired former firefighter who was out for a walk.

Surveillance videos captured Wortman's car leaving Hunter Road at 9:23 a.m., driving faster than he had hours earlier. On the highway heading south from Wentworth, the gunman killed another stranger, Lillian Campbell, who was out walking.

By now, the information released to the public via Twitter by the RCMP was still that there was an active shooter in Portapique, and residents in that area should stay inside with their doors locked.

It was during these hours that the gunman's spouse emerged from hiding in Portapique, and the RCMP realized their suspect may not be where they thought he was. Around 9 a.m., the RCMP began to receive frantic calls from Wentworth.

When RCMP officers arrived on Hunter Road sometime after 10 a.m., the shooter was long gone — continuing his killing spree close to the warehouse where he'd spent the night.

Sunday: 9:59 a.m.

About 40 kilometres from Portapique in Onslow Mountain, Nick Beaton was making breakfast for his two-year-old son. His wife, Kristen, had just left for work.

She worked for the Victorian Order of Nurses, travelling around Nova Scotia taking care of those who needed her. She was a continuing care assistant and during the COVID-19 pandemic, she was especially tired — she was pregnant and had a small child at home.

"She was going to work early in the morning you know six, seven in the morning whatever it was, and [before she left] she came in and gave me a big kiss and a big hug and she said, 'Baby you're the best,'" Nick Beaton said.

"Little did I know that would be the last kiss I'd have."

Nick Beaton said he and his wife, Kristen, shown her during her first pregnancy, had a perfect life with their young son. She had just found out she was pregnant with their second child when she was killed. (Nick Beaton/Facebook)

Nick Beaton said he and his wife, Kristen, shown her during her first pregnancy, had a perfect life with their young son. She had just found out she was pregnant with their second child when she was killed. (Nick Beaton/Facebook)  

Meanwhile, in nearby Masstown, Heather O'Brien was also getting ready for the day; the nurse, who worked for the same organization as Beaton, was hoping to spend her day off working on her garden. Before she got started, the mother of eight wanted to check in on her family.

Earlier that morning, O'Brien's daughter Darcy Dobson was awoken by her husband with heartbreaking news: their friends Greg and Jamie Blair had been shot and killed in Portapique. Her husband was Jamie's cousin; their sons played hockey together.

"At that point, we weren't sure what had happened [in Portapique]," Dobson said. "I got up at 5:30, made a cup of coffee and called my mom."

Knowing her family was shaken by that news, O'Brien offered to swing by with a round of coffees for her children and smiles for her 12 grandchildren. They all lived in a loop in Colchester County, close enough that O'Brien could stop in for visits and the drinks would still be delivered hot.

"She knew we were all kind of a little bit on edge about what was happening in Portapique," Dobson told The Fifth Estate."More than anything she just kinda wanted to see us, make sure everybody was OK."

At this point, the only information the O'Brien family had was that something was happening in Portapique and police were still there, so she didn't think much of leaving her house more than 20 kilometres away from the scene.

As she drove, she called a fellow nurse who lived on the opposite side of Portapique. Since there was only one rural highway for her friend to travel — the road that went through Portapique — and the RCMP had part of it blocked off, O'Brien wanted to make sure her coworker could still make it to her appointments.

Heather O'Brien was mother to eight and loved spending time with her 12 grandchildren. (Submitted by Darcy Dobson)

Heather O'Brien was mother to eight and loved spending time with her 12 grandchildren. (Submitted by Darcy Dobson)  

Little did O'Brien know the gunman was heading her way, and she was about to run into him on Plains Road in Debert.

She never made it to the coffee shop.

Not far away, after Kristen Beaton left for work, her husband Nick was texting her updates of what was happening in Portapique.

"I'm thinking that ... it was like an isolated incident, that him and family got into it," he said. “Not thinking that he's out targeting innocent people."

The Beatons weren't worried, but were still being careful.

They chatted while she was pulled over on the side of Plains Road, waiting for her next visit. As they spoke, Nick cautioned her not to stop for anyone.

By this time, the RCMP had tweeted the name and a photo of their suspect.

"I just said, 'OK, I'm gonna go to his Facebook to find his picture and send it to you just in case you see him to avoid him,' or what have you," Nick Beaton said.

The photo was a smiling man in a ball cap. It was the last text Kristen Beaton read. The man in the photo came across Beaton as she was pulled over on the side of the road.

At that very same time, Heather O'Brien was heading down the same road, talking to her colleague on the phone. She saw what she thought was an RCMP car.

This RCMP handout photo shows the gunman's car driving through Debert at 10 a.m. on the morning of April 19. (RCMP)

This RCMP handout photo shows the gunman's car driving through Debert at 10 a.m. on the morning of April 19. (RCMP)  

At 9:59 a.m., O'Brien heard gunshots. She sent a text message to her kids in their family group chat:

RCMP.

Shots fired Debert.

It was likely the gunfire that killed Kristen Beaton.

"The coworker asked her where she was, and she said the RCMP was there and at that point she had screamed," said Dobson.

The line dropped. Her friend frantically dialled 911.

"I think she probably felt safe [seeing the] RCMP car," Dobson said. "If there's shots being fired in Debert, like at least the cops are here."

O'Brien was killed by the gunman just a few hundred metres from Kristen Beaton.

When O'Brien and Beaton left their homes Sunday morning, they and their families weren't aware that the gunman had fled Portapique — or even that the situation was ongoing.

A memorial for Kristen Beaton sits at the side of Plains Road in Debert, where she was killed. (Steve Lawrence/CBC)

A memorial for Kristen Beaton sits at the side of Plains Road in Debert, where she was killed. (Steve Lawrence/CBC) 

"It would have been after mom was killed that they posted he was [nearby]," O'Brien's daughter Darcy Dobson said. "It was after she was killed that they posted he was in an RCMP car."

About 15 minutes after O'Brien and Beaton were killed, Nova Scotia RCMP tweeted their suspect could be dressed as a Mountie driving a vehicle that was all but identical to an actual cruiser. It was 15 minutes too late for the two women. And it was nearly 12 hours after the RCMP received that information.

"The [RCMP] had an opportunity to stop him before the people who died on the 19th were killed," said Dobson. "They failed to give the public the information they needed to stay safe."

"I've gone over and over and over again they didn't release that he was dressed as an officer," Nick Beaton said.

He is adamant if they knew that information, his wife would be by his side today.

"If the RCMP had've armed us with the information of who he was and what they knew by 11 o'clock Saturday night ... she wouldn't have even been on the road," he said.

"Me and many other blue nosers in Nova Scotia were sitting on their front deck with their firearms protecting their family. And she'd have been behind me, she'd have been safe."

In all, the RCMP would release 10 tweets over the 13-hour rampage — releasing new tweets as they received information and sightings of the gunman as he traversed Nova Scotia.

Sunday: 10:49 a.m.

As the RCMP were frantically trying to track down their suspect, Const. Chad Morrison waited in his squad car to meet a colleague. By then, police knew the gunman was on the move.

He and Const. Heidi Stevenson both worked out of Enfield, an hour's drive from Portapique, and had been called to Colchester County to help set up roadblocks. They agreed to meet at an intersection about 50 kilometres from Debert.

According to court documents, Morrison pulled up to an approaching police car in Shubenacadie thinking it was Stevenson there to meet him. It wasn't.

The gunman pulled out a handgun and started firing at Morrison. He was shot in the arm, and managed to drive away — frantically pressing the emergency alarm in his car as he sped off.

The gunman’s mock cruiser was finally stopped when he collided with Const. Heidi Stevenson. The silver SUV was driven by Joey Webber, who was killed by the gunman when he pulled over to help. (Submitted by Rob Pineo)

The gunman’s mock cruiser was finally stopped when he collided with Const. Heidi Stevenson. The silver SUV was driven by Joey Webber, who was killed by the gunman when he pulled over to help. (Submitted by Rob Pineo) 

Meanwhile, less than 500 metres from where he struck Morrison, the gunman spotted Stevenson. He turned to intercept her, veering both cars into the guardrails of the ramp onto Highway 2 where they collided.

They exchanged gunfire and Stevenson, a 23-year member of the force and mother of two, was killed. The RCMP say Stevenson died a hero, sacrificing her life to protect the people of Nova Scotia.

The gunman then killed Joey Webber, who stopped to help after seeing the two crashed cruisers. The 36-year old father of two had been en route to buy furnace oil, and like the many other victims was unaware of any danger nearby.

The shooter stole Stevenson's police-issue pistol and lit the cruisers on fire before taking off in Webber's SUV.

Sunday: 11:26 a.m.

Half an hour later, police finally stopped their suspect at a busy gas station not far from Halifax's international airport.

He was driving a car stolen from his final victim, Gina Goulet. After fleeing from where the two cruisers burned, Wortman killed Goulet in her nearby home.

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Goulet was a denturist who had twice battled cancer. She loved salsa dancing and fishing. Her beloved German Shepherd was shot but the dog survived.

When the gunman stole her car, the gas tank was almost empty. He soon headed to one of the area's busiest gas stations.

But as fate would have it, a member of the Emergency Response Team who was en route to try and stop the gunman had also pulled into the Big Stop in Enfield to get gas.

The RCMP officer recognized Wortman, and the gunman was shot and killed. Police later found five guns in his vehicle.

At 11:26 a.m on Sunday, 13 hours after it began, the rampage had ended.

The aftermath

In the months since the tragedy, the RCMP has offered few answers for families or the public. The force held five media conferences, the last in early June. Media organizations, including the CBC, have gone to court to try to gain access to search warrant documents.

In the early days after the shooting, RCMP said they had no files on Wortman. But police documents obtained by the CBC reveal the 51-year-old wasn't a stranger to police.

He was convicted of assaulting a teen in 2001 and investigated for threatening his parents in 2010.

The following year, Truro police received a tip that Wortman was mentally unstable, had firearms and threatened to kill a cop. In 2013, a neighbour in Portapique reported to police that Wortman was abusive towards his partner and had illegal weapons. None of these incidents resulted in charges and it's unclear to what extent police investigated.

"How in the hell is he not a red flag?" said Heather O'Brien's daughter Darcy Dobson. "It seems to me that a wealthy man with charisma got away with doing whatever the hell he wanted."

In the months since losing his wife, Nick Beaton has embarked on his own investigation, trying to piece together information about the shooter and what happened over those 13 hours.

"I tried to sit back so I could heal, so I could deal with it, and I can't," he said. "I need answers. There's too many questions, there's too many things not answered."

WATCH | Nick Beaton says "if RCMP had armed us with the information they had ... she'd have been safe":


 

In a meeting with investigators, he asked the Mounties to explain how they reached the conclusion that their suspect was dead.

"They couldn't answer it, they were going to look into it and get back to me," Beaton told The Fifth Estate. "I haven't heard nothing yet, it's been months.

"I can lay here and bawl the rest of my life, which I know Kristen wouldn't want, or fight."

Beaton is one of the named plaintiffs in the proposed class-action lawsuit against Wortman's estate. The families are also suing the RCMP and the province.

"We just want answers, we want the truth, full transparency," he said. "We want the RCMP to say we messed up, we made mistakes here, here and here we're learning from it and it's not going to happen again.

"It wasn't the men and women officers that day that I'm upset at, it's the force in general, it's the top brass, it's the people making the decisions."

He and other family members grew frustrated over the summer as calls for a public inquiry went unanswered.

On the same day Beaton and Dobson led a march of family members to the Bible Hill RCMP detachment in support of an inquiry, they learned the federal and provincial justice ministers would announce an independent review, but not the public inquiry they asked for.

Family and friends of victims, including Sean McLeod's daughters, Taylor Andrews, left, and Amielia McLeod, attend a march demanding an inquiry into the April mass shooting in Nova Scotia that killed 22 people, in Bible Hill, N.S., on July 22, 2020. (Andrew Vaughan/The Canadian Press)

Family and friends of victims, including Sean McLeod's daughters, Taylor Andrews, left, and Amielia McLeod, attend a march demanding an inquiry into the April mass shooting in Nova Scotia that killed 22 people, in Bible Hill, N.S., on July 22, 2020. (Andrew Vaughan/The Canadian Press)  

Public outcry was swift and harsh, and within a week, federal Public Safety Minister Bill Blair backtracked and said an inquiry would go ahead. In October — days after the six-month anniversary of their loved ones deaths — family members finally got a timeline.

"I have often said this, if it was myself or one of my sisters, my brother, or my dad, [my mother] would have done everything I have done and more," Dobson said. She knows her mother would have settled for "nothing less than the truth."

"She would have demanded it, she'd have been worse than me," she said. "Everybody says you know, I am out there — and I am loud ... they would have been scared if she walked in the doors of that RCMP station because she wouldn't have taken no for an answer on anything."

The inquiry's final report is due by Nov. 1, 2022. Until then, families are left to grieve their loved ones without fully understanding how they came to lose them so violently.

"I know as much now as I knew in April or May," Tyler Blair said. "It's disgraceful.... We shouldn't have to fight and beg for answers."

With his parents gone, Blair now cares for his younger brothers and is running the family business. Although he and his father had talked about him taking it on eventually, it wasn't meant to happen this soon, this way.

"I'm just doing what I should do — what my father would want me to do."

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'What are parents going to do?': N.B. renters face eviction despite COVID-19 surge

New owners of some apartment buildings have ordered everyone out, pandemic or not

 

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Nov 23, 2020 6:00 AM AT 

 


Tara Cripps shows the letter she received from the National Bank's lawyer demanding she and her partner along with their five children be out of their home of the last seven years two weeks after Christmas. (Robert Jones/CBC)

Ownership changes in New Brunswick apartment complexes that in some cases have been generating eviction notices for tenants in entire buildings is causing anxiety among those displaced.

It has led to calls for the province to delay the practice, at least while COVID-19 is surging.

"We're in the orange zone now," said Tara Cripps, who was told last week by National Bank she, her partner and their five children were being put out of their Saint John home of seven years.

"We can't even say, 'Hey, can we stay at your house?' We're supposed to be all in one family bubble thing again."

She said she's going to need friends to help her pack up.

"And I'm going to need their trucks and their cars and stuff to move. Is somebody going to call the police and be, like, 'There's multiple people going in and out of this house?'"

National Bank recently foreclosed on the Saint John apartment building owned by Cripps's landlord and, on Nov. 12, sent a lawyer's letter to her and her partner ordering them and their children to get out two weeks after Christmas.


On Jack Street in Saint John, tenants of a 24-unit building owned by a New Brunswick numbered company operating out of Ontario were notified in September that they had to be out by Nov. 30. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

"National Bank requires immediate vacant possession of the above noted property," read the notice from its Fredericton lawyer, Paul White. "On behalf of our client we hereby demand vacant possession on or before Wednesday January 6, 2021.

"Should you not vacate … it will be necessary for us to make court application to have you evicted and we will be asking for costs on behalf of [National Bank]."

"I've been here seven years and I've never been late on my rent," said Cripps.

"I've come to the understanding I need to find a new home. OK. But wait until it's a safer time. Wait until we're not in the orange zone. Wait until it's a little bit warmer. I'm hoping someone at the bank has a heart."

The eviction of tenants unable to pay rent was halted by the Higgs government in the early days of the pandemic in March but those restrictions were lifted June 1. 

 

Residents of 45 Jack Street in Saint John were all given eviction notices in September to be out by next week. At least two tenants remain. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

Since then, a new type of eviction has emerged as large numbers of New Brunswick apartment buildings have changed hands with some of the new owners wanting current tenants out.

Ron Blache-Fraser, a local property manager, said out-of-province investors have taken an interest in New Brunswick income properties as attractive real estate investment opportunities.

"There's a lot of interest from out-of-town buyers for all sorts of buildings in Saint John because the prices are lower, the returns are better," he said. "It's pretty straightforward."

In October, two five-unit buildings on Sherbrooke Street in Saint John were purchased by a group of Vancouver-area investors who paid $470,000 for the properties — 35 per cent above their assessed value.  

The group then issued eviction notices to tenants in one of the buildings so renovations can be done and rents increased.

 

All of the tenants at 332 Sherbrooke Street were given eviction notices to be out by the end of January. (Robert Jones/CBC)

Blache-Fraser is managing those buildings and said they were in poor condition and needed significant work. He expects rents, which were between $475 and $650 per month prior to the purchase, will climb to $975 for a two-bedroom unit once renovations are complete.

"We issued notice that we would be doing major renovations and gave tenants three-months notice, which we did not have to do," said Blache-Fraser.

"They need to be out at the end of January. Some are already leaving and we're in the process of renovating because the buildings are in deteriorated condition."   

Across the city on Jack Street, a 24-unit building owned by a New Brunswick numbered company operating out of  Burlington, Ont., issued eviction notices to tenants in September to be out by Nov. 30.

That deadline is next week. Although most tenants have gone elsewhere, at least one woman remains. 

  

Four Vancouver-area investors bought two side-by-side, five-unit apartment buildings on Sherbrooke Street in Saint John in October. (Robert Jones/CBC)

Dave Cormier is her son.

He said she has been in the building for 10 years. He said finding a two-bedroom unit for her for the $750 per month she currently pays has been difficult with vacancy rates falling and rents increasing all over Saint John.

"It's almost impossible unless you've got $1,400, or $1,600 or $2,000 [for rent]," he said.

"Even $1,100 for a two-bedroom apartment is a lot of money for low-income [people]."

Cormier has been speaking with the province about public housing and is hopeful something is happening, but with the eviction deadline just a week away and COVID-19 suddenly spiking in the community, it has been a stressful experience.

"It's scary. You know, COVID-19 is not making this any easier at all. It might be a little bit easier if that wasn't going on, but it is. And because of that, things are difficult."

Last week, a surge in COVID-19 infections across southern New Brunswick caused the province to downgrade communities from Sackville to St. Stephen, including Moncton and Saint John, from the yellow phase to the orange phase of pandemic recovery. That requires the public to limit contacts with people outside of their household bubble.

  
Premier Blaine Higgs said last week there are no special protections against tenants being evicted by landlords in areas that have had a spike in COVID-19 infections and have been placed under orange-level pandemic restrictions. (Government of New Brunswick)

Premier Blaine Higgs was asked Friday if there are any additional protections for tenants in orange-phase areas who are being put out of their buildings. His answer was no.

"No, not at all," said Higgs. "Not at this time."

That causes worry for tenants like Cripps. Her landlord owns multiple buildings and she said the letter carrier who delivered her eviction notice told her he had several others to hand out.

A spokesperson for National Bank said it was not involved in other evictions and has already contacted Cripps about allowing her family to stay where it is.

"Other cases were with other lenders," said Jean-Francois Cadieux. "Our legal external counsel has contacted the tenants. He presented them solutions and informed them that we will not be asking that they vacate their apartment."

'Kids can't sleep in a car'

But Cripps said the bank's solution involves her making an offer to buy the building. She said she doesn't have a down payment and doubts she could afford the building.

She does not want to uproot her children before Christmas but is worried about what comes after, especially if large numbers of other evicted renters are suddenly in the market at the same time looking for a place to live.

"There are good tenants that are being penalized and now they're being put out," she said.

"All these families now need to find a home. We're all going to be fighting for an apartment. There are going to be people who are probably going to end up homeless. What are parents going to do? Kids can't sleep in a car."   

Corrections

  • An earlier version of this story said an Ontario company bought a pair of 24-unit buildings on Jack Street this year. In fact, one of the buildings was purchased this year and one in 2015.
    Nov 23, 2020 10:27 AM AT

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 

 

 
 
 
 
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David Amos  
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Methinks the least Higgy could do is give the soon to be homeless folks free tickets to the peanut gallery overseeing his circus so that they can stay warm over the Yuletide season N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: Gunther. That you?
 
 
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: does that mean you get a free ticket? You fall into that category
















Angus Stafford
"In October, two five-unit buildings on Sherbrooke Street in Saint John were purchased by a group of Vancouver-area investors who paid $470,000 for the properties — 35 per cent above their assessed value." What are the odds, Vancouver's "laundry" business has reached all the way to NB. It would sure be nice if the Federal Government actually did something on this front. Not that empty promises aren't reassuring.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Angus Stafford: I concur



















George Smith
If you're a business person who is buying or just bought an apartment building in N.B. don't worry Higgs has your back.
If you're a person renting from one of these businesses worry because Higgs has their backs.
You've just seen what your votes got you when you elected the Empire's man.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @George Smith: Cry me a river









 
Jos Allaire
 Nope, no help for these people! - Good job Higgs! He's got no heart!
 
 
Jos Allaire  
And there won't be any help forthcoming from this government to help these people. This government is not for these people.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Jos Allaire: Trust that Higgy knows why I was on the phone just now talking to the head office of the National Bank because I know for a fact I can help these Madame Cripps 
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Give me a break. What will it cost her? 3 months of you living on her couch? Do you really believe the stuff you put on here?
 
 
David Amos 
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Reply to @Jos Allaire: FYI the subject line of the email Higgy's email client acknowledged is as follows Once i got it I called many lawyers who work for banksters and got through to I won't say who.

"What are parents going to do?' Methinks Higgy et al should agree that they should talk to me N'esy Pas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger whose friend the Governor General used to to be a director of this dubious Bank?"
 
 
Ray Oliver 
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Reply to @David Amos: i see your buddy Dean Roger is back for another round. He knows you quite well it seems  
 
 
David Amos 
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks everybody knows that your buddies in the RCMP know you and your fellow shills far better than I N'esy Pas?  
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Don’t try to jerk her around. She is in serious trouble here and doesn’t deserve your nonsense. I PROMISE you that if you mess with her I will make public a certain someone from Yankeedoodleland’s naughty videos and thoroughly embarrass you. I double dog dare ya...
 
 
David Amos 
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Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Skittter Skatter Lets Get Atter

Methinks its best that you tell your RCMP puppet masters what you are up to as well because you know as well as I that I already notified them AGAIN N'esy Pas? 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Go Figure 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Andy Macphail
this seems different from yesterday's eviction story where the woman tried to cheat the system and got caught
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Andy Macphail: Whats your point?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jim Cyr
Drive around any NB town and just look around. TONS of expensive and semi-expensive cars. People selling and buying homes for hundreds of thousands of dollars. NB is not poor. The idea that it has widespread poverty borders on comical. Sure, 5% of the population is really poor and really needs some help. I don't want to hear a word from the other 95%.
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Well said!
 
 
Yves Savoie
Reply to @Jim Cyr: When you make decisions in life you have to think longterm...5 kids cost a lot of money.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Yves Savoie: And you have to live with your choices.
 
 
Rusty Shackleford
Reply to @Yves Savoie: Thats ALOT of CCB
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks when you come up from Maine you wear rose coloured glasses and only cruise around Higgy's neck of the woods then up to Fat Fred City and on down to the big SANB town However lots of folks know that there are lot more roads that will tell a different tale than the one you just spun for your political pals and their billionaire buddies N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: I would rather have 5 kids than all the money you love to have in your bank account
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Why? You couldn’t provide for the 3 you had.
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: The Riddler has returned. How would you ever hit a backroad does the ambulance to Cambellton take the scenic route for you sometimes?
 
 

 

 

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'What are parents going to do?': N.B. renters face eviction despite
COVID-19 surge

New owners of some apartment buildings have ordered everyone out,
pandemic or not
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Nov 23, 2020 6:00 AM AT

"Premier Blaine Higgs was asked Friday if there are any additional
protections for tenants in orange-phase areas who are being put out of
their buildings. His answer was no.

"No, not at all," said Higgs. "Not at this time."

That causes worry for tenants like Cripps. Her landlord owns multiple
buildings and she said the letter carrier who delivered her eviction
notice told her he had several others to hand out.

A spokesperson for National Bank said it was not involved in other
evictions and has already contacted Cripps about allowing her family
to stay where it is.

"Other cases were with other lenders," said Jean-Francois Cadieux.
"Our legal external counsel has contacted the tenants. He presented
them solutions and informed them that we will not be asking that they
vacate their apartment."
'Kids can't sleep in a car'

But Cripps said the bank's solution involves her making an offer to
buy the building. She said she doesn't have a down payment and doubts
she could afford the building.

She does not want to uproot her children before Christmas but is
worried about what comes after, especially if large numbers of other
evicted renters are suddenly in the market at the same time looking
for a place to live.

"There are good tenants that are being penalized and now they're being
put out," she said."


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Legislature votes to suspend session, despite Green, People's Alliance opposition

Increase in COVID-19 cases leads New Brunswick Legislature to suspend sitting for 2 weeks

 

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Nov 24, 2020 3:12 PM AT

 


MLAs voted 11-4 Tuesday afternoon to adjourn until Dec. 8. (Karissa Donkin/CBC)

The New Brunswick Legislature has suspended its session for two weeks because of COVID-19, despite a last-minute attempt by the Green Party to block the move.

MLAs voted 11-4 Tuesday afternoon to adjourn until Dec. 8. 

Two Green and two People's Alliance MLAs voted against the motion. Opposition Liberal MLAs voted with the Progressive Conservative majority in favour of the suspension.

The Greens objected to the suspension because there's no system in place yet for virtual or partly virtual sittings, despite discussion of such a system starting back in April. 

"We were assured, yes, by fall, no problem, we will have a system in this house, but we don't," said Green Leader David Coon.

The Alliance members voted against adjourning because they believe MLAs should be considered essential workers and allowed to travel from orange zones, leader Kris Austin said.

"We expect New Brunswickers to carry on, to go to work, yet here we are saying we're going to adjourn because of the risk," he said.

Emergency debate request denied

Green MLA Kevin Arseneau requested an emergency debate before the house adjourned on the need for a virtual or hybrid system.

"Democracy is an essential service," he said. "There are urgent and important matters that we need to discuss inside this assembly."

Green MLA Kevin Arseneau requested an emergency debate on the need for a virtual or hybrid system. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

The Liberals opposed his request. House leader Guy Arseneault said that with 23 MLAs absent from the chamber and unable to participate, and with officials already working on a virtual system, "I don't see a need for an emergency debate at this time."

Acting Speaker Jeff Carr turned down the request for an emergency debate.

Technological obstacles to remote legislature

Premier Blaine Higgs told reporters that the obstacle to installing equipment for virtual sittings was technological, though he acknowledged that there were "probably" some members of his cabinet and caucus opposed to the idea.

A cornerstone of the government's COVID-19 response has been the requirement for "operational plans" for institutions and businesses.

And the Progressive Conservative throne speech last week pointed to what can be learned from the many new ways of offering government operations adopted because of COVID-19.


Premier Blaine Higgs told reporters that the obstacle to installing equipment for virtual sittings was technological. (Government of New Brunswick)

But Higgs said a virtual legislature wasn't possible eight months after the virus hit the province because "it wasn't a situation that we expected to be in," despite forecast of a spike in cases this fall. 

"It wasn't really considered as it would be — we talked about a second wave — that it was a big concern whether we had it in place or not," he said. "It wasn't something that I was pushing in any particular way. And now here we are." 

Legislative leeway

But he said unlike many other workplaces, the legislature has leeway in when it sits.

"We can come back after the Christmas break. We can come back in January. The beauty that we have, that a lot of essential workers don't, is that we have flexibility in when we schedule the legislature."

He admitted that the current Dec. 8 return date, or a resumption in January, assumes the two zones now in the orange phase return to yellow by then.

Assuming MLAs return Dec. 8, the legislature will have missed only the four sitting days scheduled for this week.

Next week the full house was already scheduled to take a break while the economic policy committee, which reviews most legislation, held hearings on government bills.

Those hearings will go ahead next week with MLAs from yellow-phase health zones substituting for members from orange-phase zones.

There were 23 MLAs absent Tuesday because of the no-travel recommendation for people living in the two orange-phase zones in the province.

But others stayed away under a four-party agreement for Tuesday's sitting. House rules require only 14 MLAs, including the Speaker, in the chamber to conduct business. 

About the Author

Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit.

 

  

67 Comments


 
 
David Amos
Methinks there has yet to be a vote on the Throne Speech If so then Higgy ain't got a legit mandate yet N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Methinks somebody should have asked Kevin Arseneau why he ignored Higgy's no-travel recommendation and came to Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
 
 

 

 
 

 
 
David Amos
"Speaker Jeff Carr" ??? Methinks folks should ask what happened to Higgy's former assistant whom he picked for speaker and the not so young women he appointed to be the deputy speakers immediately after the throne speech N'esy Pas?
 
 
Graham McCormack
Reply to @David Amos: The speaker is from an area that is in an Orange zone right now, that's what happened to him. Pretty easy to figure out.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Graham McCormack: His deputies?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Graham McCormack: Oliver and Higgy hang their hats not far from my humble abode remember?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: no people don't remember you. They don't give you any thought. Humble abode? Not hard to move a tent, where is it pitched this week?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks you should ask your RCMP buddies why I pay property taxes but not income tax N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Easy. You conned some dying “friend” into willing their property to you. As for the income tax, well...no job = no income.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: So says an RCMP shill pretending to be a welfare bum in Alberta
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: My question is how much you might have helped speed up the process so to speak. Methinks a call to arrange an inquest might be in order...
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Do I need to remind everyone what happened to Mary Ann Hennen?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Please do 
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Quick review: You tried to get Werner Bock thrown in the looney bin so you could take ownership of and sell his farm. Mary Ann figured your scheme out and had Werner give you the boot. Then out of nowhere she has a fatal heart attack at FAR too young an age for an otherwise healthy woman with no history...
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Google David Amos Lou LaFleur for more 411
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: WOW
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Perhaps you truly are who you claim to be 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Guess who is gonna be calling the cops in Alberta?  
 
 
DeanRoger Ray 
Reply to @David Amos: I give up. The same guy who always does?  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks I should also contact whomever is handling old Harry's estate N'esy Pas? 
 
 
DeanRoger Ray 
Reply to @David Amos: Why? They don’t care that the curtain is falling on your con games.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks it is now you who's ethics are being stress tested Nesy Pas? Sounds about as low as it gets
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Tell it to the RCMP 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Leslie Russell
Suspend pay. Scammers.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Leslie Russell: Dream on
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tim Trites
sooo...they stay home with pay cause they're chickenhearted, yet i who am much more "front line" than they go to work to pay their gold plated wages and pensions

fair enough
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Trites: Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Howard Higgs
Representation delayed is representation denied.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Howard Higgs: Methinskts thats particularly well put coming from a purported cousin of Higgy's N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: In what statement where did he say he was a family member? Ohhh.. You're assuming based on his handle. Can't get much by you Sherlock 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
John Parker 
It would be very technological thing to set up I can imagine almost near impossible unless you where a scientist with expertise in the field. Also I don't think they need to meet very much anyway. Maybe three, four times a year when need be. It saves a lot of greenhouse gas emissions.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @John Parker: Methinks you must mean methane from all their bs N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
michael levesque
not surprised liberals voted for this with roger melanson being interm leader and all.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @michael levesque: Methinks political science ain't as hard as rocket science to underconstumble N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Al Brown
'But Higgs said a virtual legislature wasn't possible eight months after the virus hit the province because "it wasn't a situation that we expected to be in," despite forecast of a spike in cases this fall.

How can a leader of a province be taken seriously when he is dismissive of the realities of Covid-19. The mixed messaging that this government is putting out is shameful. We knew this was coming but chose to rely on hope and pixie dust. I always thought he looked like a garden gnome. Now it would appear he has the managing skills of one.

"It wasn't really considered as it would be — we talked about a second wave — that it was a big concern whether we had it in place or not," he said. "It wasn't something that I was pushing in any particular way. And now here we are." = oops?
'
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Al Brown: Welcome to the circus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Gil Murray
So Dominic Cardy can stand in front of a microphone and tell parents to trust him. Kids will remain in schools that have children or staff who have tested positive for this virus and yet he, and those other brave souls, want to take two weeks away from a building where nobody has tested positive. Parents should be starting to get what he and Mr. Higgs really think si important.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Gil Murray: Surprise Surprise Surprise
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chantal LeBouthi
Should read that’s Higgs doesn’t care about what the opposition parties
Higgs will act exactly milked Trump the wannabe King
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Methinks Higgy looks a lot like Humpty Dumpty N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
John Grail
Who needs to talk when you have a majority...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @John Grail: Is the vote on the throne speech history?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ben Haroldson
No bigger slacker outfit than that.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: BINGO
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
sandy mechefske
without pay?
 
 
Dan Franklin
Reply to @sandy mechefske: You kidding? Higgs worked for Irving. They're probably earning time and a half.
 
 
sandy mechefske
Reply to @Dan Franklin: It doesn't sound like you understand working for Irving works then at all!
 
 
Graham McCormack
Reply to @sandy mechefske: So you think they only work when in the House?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Graham McCormack: Methinks many folks would agree that they don't work at all other than when it comes time to win another ticket on the gravy train N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Matt Steele
Politicians love shutting down the Legislature for anything and everything ; yet they love getting those big salaries and expense accounts . Of course , the Liberals are supposed to be the official opposition ; yet they are more than happy to go along with the Conservatives when it is to their own personal benefit ; I am surprised they didn't all vote themselves a new pay raise at the same time . What a joke .
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks 2 weeks from now is awful close to their break for the Yuletide season N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Buddy Best
So if the leg is shutting down should everyone not follow suit? Or is it just politicians that matter now?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Buddy Best: I will give you 3 guesses and the first 2 won't count
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Fred Brewer
So the legislature refuses to close gyms, bars or restaurants that are rampant with covid, but they shut the legislature down to protect themselves? For shame. How selfish is that? Do your job and if you are too afraid to show up for work, then you better take action and reign in this outbreak
 
 
Buddy Best
Reply to @Fred Brewer: If they want to stay home we should make it permanent without pay and perks.
 
 
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Buddy Best: Sounds about right to me.
 
 
John Grail
Reply to @Fred Brewer: most people, especially politicians, are hypocrites
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @John Grail: Methinks Freddy Baby is at the top of the list N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Certainly not a great example for NBers. Kids in school are forced to take online classes when schools are closed temporarily or they are at a later level in the high schools, many people are working for home, but yet the elected officials decide to suspend the legislature because they haven't invested in Tech to let them work remotely.
Seems to be a pattern of do nothing and change the topic for Mr. Higgs. I guess all the work is done and completed, so our health care system has been fixed, there now is transparency in political donations for municipal politicians, there is no shortages of nurses in the health care system., everyone can easily get a family doctor..... the list goes on and on.
Keep it up but remember Mr Higgs ,2024 is not that far off.
 
 
John Grail
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Since when have politicians been good role models?
 
 
JOhn D Bond
Reply to @John Grail: Not so much role models more leaders. So it is ok for them to tell hospital, nursing homes, police officers, firefighters, grocery store clerks, pharmacy staff that they need to keep working as they are essential services. But yet it is ok for the Provincial government to essentially close the legislature. So by implication, does that mean that it is not an essential service? If they were they would be working so clearly bad messaging by Higgsy
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @JOhn D Bond: Methinks folks should be impressed that you finally figured out something smells rotten in New Brunswick N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
John Pokiok
Higgs don't need anyone approval anymore he probably doesn't even care what other parties think.
 
 
Dianne MacPherson
Reply to @John Pokiok:
Walk a 'mile' in Premier Higgs shoes.
Indeed any Premier in this Country !!!
These Premiers are responsible for the
Health of millions of their citizens.
This 'second wave' has taken its toll
on us and them.
I wonder how they sleep at night !!!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dianne MacPherson: "I wonder how they sleep at night !!!"

Me Too But for much different reasons than you do
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Guy Messervier
But its safe for the children!
Reply to @Guy Messervier: children are not coming together to go to school from across the province. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Guy Messervier: Go figure
 
 
 
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On 11/25/20, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
> JARDINE AUCTIONEERS INC.
> 1849 Route 640, Hanwell Road
> Fredericton NB E3C 2A7
> CANADA
> Phone: 506-454-4400 Fax: 506-450-3288
> Toll Free: 1-877-499-4400
>
> John Jardine  john@jardineauctioneers.com
> Blair Sissons blair@jardineauctioneers.com
>
>
>     ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: magicJack <voicemail@magicjack.com>
> To: DAVID AMOS
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020, 04:58:17 PM AST
> Subject: New VM (1) - 0:04 minutes in your magicJack mailbox from
> 5064544400
>  Dear magicJack User:
>
> You received a new 0:04 minutes voicemail message, on Tuesday,
> November 24, 2020 at 03:58:15 PM in mailbox 9028000369 from
> 5064544400.
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-outbreak-coronavirus-pandemic-1.5813783
>
>
> N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Some classes go online, testing sites boosted
> after 5 new cases
>
> Dr. Jennifer Russell announces new cases in Saint John and Moncton regions
> Marie Sutherland · CBC News · Posted: Nov 24, 2020 10:30 AM AT
>
>
>  236 Comments
>
>
> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Methinks Cardy knew the virus was in the Quispamsis school despite
> what he claimed to Seguin this morning Everybody knows what happening
> when the lips of a turncoat dude who consumes too many of little Lou's
> butter tarts are moving N'esy Pas?
>
> Lou Bell
> Content disabled
> Reply to @David Amos: What did he claim " this morning " ? What would
> you have preferred , he blab it for all the " conspiracy theorists "
> to spin ???
>
> Lou Bell
> Content disabled
> Reply to @David Amos: Did you ever get your tricycle back ?
>
> Lou Bell
> Reply to @Lou Bell: Spin , like Dave and the " Me Party " ??
>
> DeanRoger Ray
> Reply to @Lou Bell: It was auctioned off at least ten years ago (minus
> about a dozen Memorex cassettes...)
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Pure D BS
>
> DeanRoger Ray
> Reply to @David Amos: You wish
>
> Rob Sense
> Reply to @DeanRoger Ray:
> The wheels came off long ago.
>
> DeanRoger Ray
> Reply to @David Amos: In fact it was done through the Jardines.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: I just called Jardines and they denied
> selling my Harley
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: trust that the RCMP are well aware that your
> buddies Bell and Cardy both live near Jardines and the crook who still
> has my bike
>
> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @David Amos: You didn't hear the laughter in the background?
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Ray Oliver: I heard worse than mere laughter
>
> DeanRoger Ray
> Reply to @David Amos: “I’m David Raymond Amos and I have the world
> record for suing lawyers. Mehears you sold my Harley. True or False?”
>
> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: You forgot "the only time I've ever stood in
> a court of law was as Defendant never the Plaintiff".. but I do throw
> meritless lawsuits at educated lawyers that get laughed out of the
> room as often as possible"
>
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/06/for-public-record-when-i-hears-and-read.html
>
>
> Thursday, 22 June 2017
>
> For the Public Record when I heard and read the news about the RCMP
> today I felt compelled to rewrite a brief that I am ordered to file in
> the Federal Court of Appeal tomorrow
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLsExAsWN0
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjonbmIti-o&list=UU_xApcTENOws8eIxoNNWPFQ
>
> From: "MacKenzie, Lloyd (SNB)"lloyd.mackenzie@snb.ca
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:01:27 -0400
> Subject: Telephone Conversation re: 1965 Harley-Davidson Motorcycle
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> Cc: "Bastarache, Donald J.(SNB)"Donald.Bastarache@snb.ca,
> "Morrison, Bill (SNB)"bill.morrison@snb.ca,
> "Levesque-Finn, Sylvie(SNB)"Sylvie.Levesque-Finn@snb.ca, "Pleadwell, Derek
> (SNB)"Derek.Pleadwell@snb.ca
>
> Mr. Amos:
> Upon your request I will inform Mr. Derek Pleadwell[(506)
> 444-2897], Chairperson SNB Board of Directors, of our extended
> conversation regarding the issues surrounding the 1965 Harley-Davidson
> motorcycle when he visits my office at approximately 3:30 P.M. today.
>
> Also, as requested, I've copied in Ms. Sylvie Levesque-Finn[ (506)
> 453-3879 ],SNB President.
>
> Lloyd D. MacKenzie, AACI, P. App, CAE
> Regional Manager of Assessment - Beauséjour Region/Responsable
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> Moncton, NB E1C 8R3
> Tel/Tél: (506) 856-3910
> Fax/Téléc: (506) 856-2519
>
 
 

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Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others    
Methinks Higgy et al know I am honoured the not so young Mitton girl would never admit she is my cousin and that the boys in her green meanie party detest me nearly as much as I do them N'esy Pas?

 

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/11/green-mlas-call-out-belittling.html

 

#cdnpoli #nbpoli

 

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mla-language-legislature-colleagues-nb-1.5812896

 

Green MLAs call out belittling, patronizing language used by legislature colleagues

Megan Mitton says her post about being referred to as 'young lady' by colleague got overwhelming support

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Nov 24, 2020 5:00 AM AT

 


Megan Mitton, Green Party MLA for Memramcook-Tantramar, got support after revealing she was called "young lady" to her face by male MLA. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Two Green MLAs have called out some of their legislature colleagues for examples of what they call belittling, demeaning and patronizing language during last week's sitting.

Kevin Arseneau said he's had enough of politicians referring to "our" Indigenous people, a phrase he said conjures up a colonial attitude.

And Megan Mitton said she got overwhelming support on social media after revealing an unidentified older male MLA called her "young lady" to her face.

"Ultimately, language matters," she said. "It really matters what we say to each other and about each other. I think we should move calling women 'young lady' out of our vocabulary, especially in the workplace but probably everywhere else."

Mitton won't identify the member but points out that she is, at 34, the youngest MLA in the house and one of only 14 women, "so there's quite a few people who it could be."

Arseneau said he has heard the possessive pronoun "our" used for Indigenous people for a long time but decided to speak out after last week's speech from the throne. It said MLAs had gathered "on the ancestral territory of our Indigenous people."

"It refers to colonialism," he said. "I find it's extremely disrespectful … to take possession of people."

Two days later, Liberal Leader Roger Melanson said he wanted to contribute to  "a strong partnership with our First Nations."

Melanson used the phrase while congratulating St. Mary's First Nation Chief Alan (Chicky) Polchies on winning a new term in band elections.

Polchies said in an interview he'd also like to see the use of "our" disappear. 

"Indigenous people are the Indigenous people of this land," he said. "When you refer to 'our,' we don't belong to any group or government other than our own. We belong to the land of Turtle Island. It's the Indigenous people of the territory." 

The official French translation of the throne speech did not use "our." 

Aboriginal Affairs Minister Arlene Dunn won't say whether the phrase should have been in the English version but commented, "I would not refer to First Nations as 'our' First Nations. I refer to First Nations as partners. Full partners."

She notes she has nine nieces and nephews who are Indigenous. "My preference is to call them partners, and be respectful."

Aboriginal Affairs Minister Arlene Dunn. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Arseneau said if Dunn had read the Throne Speech ahead of time, "she could have told government to change that part of it.

"I know a lot of people in that [Progressive Conservative] caucus, if they'd read it in advance, would have flagged it." 

Liberal MLA Lisa Harris, who became her party's aboriginal affairs critic after the provincial election, has been vocal in criticizing the Higgs government on its refusal to hold an inquiry on systemic racism but said the implications of the word "our" hadn't occurred to her.

"I never really thought about that question before but it's a good question," she said, suggesting the word could be seen as a way to be inclusive.

"I could only begin to imagine what it means, but I think we're blessed to have First Nations in our province, so I guess we're owning the fact that we have First Nations in the province, the same as our francophone population or anglophone population.

"To me, they're all to be celebrated."

 

Liberal MLA Lisa Harris, who became her party’s aboriginal affairs critic after the provincial election, has been vocal in criticizing the Higgs government on its refusal to hold an inquiry on systemic racism. (Joe McDonald/CBC)

 

Mitton said 98 per cent of the people who responded to her Instagram post about being called a "young lady" agreed with her that the term was ageist and sexist. 

"In a workplace, but especially workplaces that are dominated traditionally by men, there's a power dynamic that exists, so I think it adds an extra layer to women maybe not feeling they belong because historically they haven't," she said.

Fourteen women were elected as MLAs in September's election, a record number. 

Mitton said none of her fellow female members from other parties had approached her to talk about her post. She said that may be because COVID-19 guidelines have made discreet one-on-one conversations difficult in the corridors of the legislature. 

About the Author

Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit.



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David Amos
Welcome back to the circus 
 
 
DeanRoger Ray 
Reply to @David Amos: Yawn.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tim Trites
some Green party members seem highly insecure
Awaiting moderation
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Trites: Naw they are just crooks like all the rest
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire
If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks its wickedly comical that one is an evil cousin of mine while the other is a very nasty former president of your beloved SANB N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Shocker coming fresh off the press from the "Feelings" party. Get to work on something of value in your riding!! I'd be embarrassed to have put this forward as news.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Yea Right

 

 

 

 

 


Al Clark
And btw, what do those three letters mean on that lobster fisherman's hat, EVERY time Steve Murphy interviews him? 
 
 
Chuck Gendron
Reply to @Al Clark: Who is Steve Murphy?
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Chuck Gendron: Is the war over?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Chuck Gendron: Chucky Leblanc's buddy


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire
Hey teacher, he called me a young lady! The outrage! 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Jos Allaire: I am embarrassed to say that she is my cousin

Methinks Higgy et al know why I am honoured that the not so young female would never admit it and that the boys in her dubious political party detest me as as much as i do them N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver:  
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks you know what they say "you can pick your nose but...." Nesy Pas?
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: that and that explains a lot lol


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
By not identifying the doer it calls the whole thing into question.
If I addressed her as "young lady" it would be purely descriptive, she is clearly younger than I am, and I find it best to assume a female to be a "lady", unless she demonstrates otherwise.
Of course this just might be that demonstration, and might just lead to other, more accurate descriptions.
 
 
 
Christopher Harborne 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: So she could call anyone of the men in the legislature "old man"? Why is it hard to be even the tiniest bit respectful to a work colleague? And I'm pretty sure that the other member would be livid should he not be called "the honourable member for X".

And not identifying the doer offers them the chance to change. Public shaming only serves to entrench someone.
 
 
Billy Buckner
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: you have made some posts over the last couple of days that make perfect sense, not sure what to make of it.
 
 
Buddy Best
Reply to @Christopher Harborne: An older gentleman is very often used to describe a senior male. I have never attempted to get news coverage over it because I am not that offended by the acknowledgement. I have issues supporting anyone that thin skinned.
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Christopher Harborne:
I *think* weaponizing a simple, respectful, form of address (because there are far worse forms of address) only indicates that maybe this person does not wish to be addressed at all, which I find very strange position for an MLA to put themselves into. An MLA that no one wishes to speak with. I guess it is an interesting way to represent those who voted for you? Maybe next time they won't bother?
I have been called far worse than "old man", and kind of prefer "old fella" to old man, but either form of address does not get my knickers in a twist.
 
 
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Christopher Harborne: I wouldn't mind any one calling me "old man", not one bit. But then again, I have an actual life..............
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks it may not be wise to ask me for a more accurate description N'esy Pas?








Toby Tolly
Peasant - kevin arseneau's description of himself on twitter 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Check mine if ya dare
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: oh the treasure chest of information and wise quotes it must possess. People hang off every tweet a la Trump
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @Ray Oliver: "if ya dare" hahaha, you can't make this stuff up.

 









Jos Allaire
It could have been worse. He could have called her "old lady" 
 
 
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Jos Allaire:
Or a silly C.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks you should know N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'Significant' explosion at AIM rattles windows, nerves in Saint John

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https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies

 

 

Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others   
Methinks Don Darling claimed he had enough and changed his mind about running for mayor again when he and I crossed paths in a bank in Fat Fred City on Higgy's budget day last spring N'esy Pas?

 

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/11/significant-explosion-at-aim-rattles.html

 

 #cdnpoli #nbpoli

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/aim-explosion-saint-john-1.5816642

 

'Significant' explosion at AIM rattles windows, nerves in Saint John

'Enough is enough,' mayor tweets in response to latest blast at dinner hour

 

Marie Sutherland· CBC News· Posted: Nov 25, 2020 8:05 PM AT |

 


Saint John resident Gary MacDonald posted this photo on Twitter after hearing an explosion at the American Iron and Metal scrap metal recycling facility Wednesday night. (Submitted by Gary MacDonald/Twitter)

A dinner-hour explosion at the American Iron and Metal (AIM) industrial metal processing plant rattled windows and shook condominiums across the Saint John harbour Wednesday evening.

Residents immediately took to social media to express concern and anger, noting the explosion was "one of the most significant in some time."

Mayor Don Darling also spoke out on social media, after seeing a photo of the scene posted by Saint John resident Gary MacDonald.

"Enough is enough. This is not about being anti industry or about being anti port," Darling said on Twitter. "In my opinion, this facility is not following its approval to operate and it's impacting people's lives. Time for action is now and explosion must not be normalized."

The plant, which recycles scrap metal, has been the centre of controversy in recent years due to an ongoing series of explosions that have shaken buildings and upset residents in the neighbourhood.

Big Bang At AIM

The company said at the time that the explosions were caused by propane and gasoline tanks in crushed vehicles going through the shredder.

The provincial environment ministry intervened and restrictions were placed on the plant's operations, including a condition that explosions beyond a 109-decibel level would force the company to halt operations and await an inspection by fire officials.

In September of this year, after several months without incident, the plant roared back into the spotlight with a large fire and a series of explosions.

"We've seen a lot of events related to this operation, but last night was quite spectacular," Bob McVicar, whose home is directly across the harbour from the west side scrap metal operation, told CBC News at the time.

There were no injuries in that incident.

In an email Wednesday night, a spokesperson for Environment and Climate Change Minister Gary Crossman told CBC News that the ministry is following up on the incident.

"We are aware of the explosion and the department is looking into it," said Mary-Anne Hurley-Corbin, director of communications for the ministry.

CBC also called company owner Herb Black but he could not be reached through his office.

About the Author

Marie Sutherland is a web writer with CBC New Brunswick based in Saint John. You can reach her at marie.sutherland@cbc.ca.

  

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David Amos
"CBC also called company owner Herb Black but he could not be reached through his office."

Surprise Surprise Surprise
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Yea Right

"In an email Wednesday night, a spokesperson for Environment and Climate Change Minister Gary Crossman told CBC News that the ministry is following up on the incident.

"We are aware of the explosion and the department is looking into it," said Mary-Anne Hurley-Corbin, director of communications for the ministry."
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Methinks Don Darling claimed he had enough and changed his mind about running for mayor again when he and I crossed paths in a bank in Fat Fred City on Higgy's budget day last spring. However Higgy delayed the municipal elections in favour of his successful snap election Hence now that Higgy is seated in Humpty Dumpty perch in his circus whatever any mayor says now about anything is rather irrelevant until one of them finds some gumption and speaks up in order to knock him off the wall N'esy Pas?
 
 
Jarrod Yeo
Reply to @David Amos: Me thinks you're annoying.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jarrod Yeo: Methinks the same can be said of you Nesy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Jarrod Yeo: Isn't he though? Right in his own little world
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Actually he probably sticks to topic and doesn't speak in code and riddles. Or brag constantly about his legal prowess or his Harley or his wiretap tapes. Hence.. not annoying!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Matt Steele
Certainly very poor planning on the part of the Port and the Province in locating a junk/scrap yard on a major water way . Just another example of how much damage can be done when the Province / Port has staff who really didn't know what they were doing when giving site approvals , and making deals , with industry 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Matt Steele: How do you explain the LNG pipeline for the benefit of Repsol and the Irving Clan?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
buster jones 
Made you look out the window. How evil. Throw those people out of work 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @buster jones: Methinks Brando said it best and did so twice N'esy Pas?

"The Horror The Horror"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Johnny Jakobs
You think that Merican company gives two shards about SJ? Nope, its just Saint Johners taking another one the chin
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: can't you tie the "empire" into this? Cue buddy best
 
 
James Smythe
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Allow me to assist. Saint John’s “solution” for the disturbance caused by the AIM plant, will be to sell it to Irving, so that they can continue to get away with absolutely raking New Brunswickers over the coals once the fires and explosions have been extinguished.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James Smythe: but what about the taxes, monopoly, the environment, the, the, anything? Rest easy Lucifer we've got a major industrial employer in the region, hang tight
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: American eh ?
 
 
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @Ray Oliver: read between the lines... its already there.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @James Smythe: Methinks its not wise to give Herby Black any ideas or the billionaires just might make a deal N'esy Pas? 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks your best buddy will soon appear because when one mentions the devil he is sure to appear However I truly hope the dude you are baiting turns up too much to the chagrin of your heroes in the Irving Clan or my name ain't "Just Dave" N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: In English that means??
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Love to see them buy it. Why not? Give you all a little more to grumble about going forward! Hail Irving! 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks its kinda obvious who you work for now N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Matt Smith
Time for them to go. The is prime real estate. Kick them and fill it with condos. Beautify the area and finally receive some actual tax revenue. The shear amount of heavy metals they are allowed to pollute the local waterways with is criminal.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Matt Smith: The Port Authority owns it and will never give it up. Much like the rest of the south end Port property. Sticking nice condos down in Lower West? Yeah. Who's gonna drive thru that war zone to get to them
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Ray Oliver: YOU

 

 

 

 

 

 

Connell Smith Last Yap About Elon Musk's satellites now streaming to some rural N.B. homes

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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:31:08 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Yo Higgy It seems that Musk's lawyer Michael
Sylvester is retired just like sneaky Connell Smith did today EH?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

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If this is a Media Request, please contact the Premier’s office at
(506) 453-2144.

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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:23:41 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Michael Sylvester I just called again
say Hey to Connell Smith and CBC for me will ya?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

I am no longer working at SpaceX as of Monday, November 16, 2020. To
contact SpaceX, please call our headquarters at (310) 363-6000 and ask
for the Finance Department.
 

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Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others     
I listened to CBC this morning celebrate Smiths last day and just shook my head for obvious reasons


Methinks I will send him one last email for equally obvious reasons N'esy Pas? 

 

 https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/11/connell-smith-last-yap-about-elon-musks.html

 

 #cdnpoli #nbpoli

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/satellite-internet-low-earth-orbit-streaming-video-conferencing-1.5817966 

 

Elon Musk's satellites now streaming to some rural N.B. homes

Public launch of service possible by mid-2021

 

Connell Smith· CBC News· Posted: Nov 27, 2020 7:00 AM AT

 

 

Greg Rekounas tests download and upload speeds via his newly installed link to Starlink's low Earth orbit satellites. (Greg Rekounas, submitted)

Billionaire Elon Musk's satellite internet service is now streaming to some homes in New Brunswick.

Starlink has enlisted some households in rural areas of Canada and the northern U.S. to test the service before a full launch, possibly in mid-2021.

Greg Rekounas of the Kingston Peninsula is one of those who signed on to help test the high-speed internet service.

The database administrator, who works from home for an IT company, said he has to be connected at all times for his job. After barely a week with the new service, he's bowled over by the improvement over his previous DSL link, which sometimes forced him to stop using his webcam while participating in work-related video conferencing.

"It changes everything," said Rekounas. "For me, it was almost to the point where I was considering moving. And now that thought is out of my head."

Providing service to people around the world

Musk has been using SpaceX, his rocket company, to blast clusters of 60 low Earth orbit satellites into space since May, 2019. The twice-monthly launches have so far planted 955 satellites in low Earth orbit (LEO), about 550 kilometres above the planet.

The goal is to have 12,000 in orbit by 2024.

The satellites can provide service improvements to people all over the world who are without access to high-speed internet.


A cluster of 60 Starlink satellites is launched from a SpaceX rocket earlier this year. Currently, 955 units orbit the Earth, and 11,000 more are to be launched by 2024. (SpaceX, via Twitter)

Rekounas said it will certainly be welcome in homes in rural parts of New Brunswick.

"They're able to video-conference, they're able to download, they're able to stream. They're able to stay connected almost a hundred per cent of the time," he said.

Service comes with a price

Upfront costs, however, could be a barrier to some. Rekounas paid $820 for the required Starlink hardware, a satellite receiving dish, modem, power supply and 100 feet of cable. The subscription fee is $130 a month.

SpaceX did not respond Thursday to a CBC interview request.

Musk is expected to face tough competition from Amazon owner Jeff Bezos, who has his own rocket company, Blue Origin, and is planning an alternate satellite internet service with 3,200 spacecraft in low Earth orbit.

Another company, Telesat, which originates in Canada, also has plans to enter the LEO internet market with 298 satellites.

The thousands of new satellites, and others likely to follow, are raising questions about the potential impact on the night skies and on the science of astronomy.

About the Author

Connell Smith is a reporter with CBC in Saint John. He can be reached at 632-7726 Connell.smith@cbc.ca

 

 

316 Comments

 


David Amos
Methinks CBC choice of an excellent cover of an ol Hank song dedicated to Mr Smith's last day at work was right on the money N'esy Pas?  
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: A Boy Named Sue would be good for you.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: well Dirty Dicky trust I would be flat out honoured

Methinks any kid (mine certainly do) would love the late great Shel Silverstein books as well. However even the biblepounder in you must recall my favourite poem of his that was only published once that i know of and it can be found within the 25th Anniversary edition of Playboy which I still carry a copy of to this very day N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Pages all stuck together yet?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: The Devil and Billy Markham If memory serves...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: BINGO You Feds keep good records

 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Do your recall what lawyer I dealt with who was honest about me and Madoff?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Can you name the Yankee lawyer who sent a pile of wiretap tapes to Washington after I ran in the election of the 39th Parliament?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Name your buddy Deputy Dog's lawyer if ya dare
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Can you name the floor of the Chalmers they like to house him on, his condition, and the attending physician? Bonus points for the length of stay!!!
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: I recall you getting a canned form-letter reply from Eliot Spitzer’s office which you held up to brain dead people you were trying to con as “proof” that you caused Madoff to plead guilty in his trial.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: BS you quite simply don't know

Methinks its time your cohorts Googled your name to see who they are in bed with N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @Ray Oliver: There were two docs. One from Mexico and one from Russia. They let him out after 3 days I think.
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Angela Triccoli. You had a bizarre fascination with her posterior as I recall.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Ah yes Angie Baby

Methinks you should google her to see the trouble she have been in since N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Charles LeBlanc blogged it after Werner Bock let him know. Davey got all bootiehurt because everyone found out.
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Nope Why twist things after staling my kids for years??? The biblepounder in you should at least confess that Chucky and your evil buddiesin Alberta Mr Baconfat and the Mad Shangi violated my privacy and libeled me Chucky went so far as to even compare me to Ashley Smith correct?

Now do tell how many times have you been put in the looney bin for very legitimate reasons and when did your Mother boot you out of her basement so you went to stay with old Harry again whom I happened to like 
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: I really don’t care about her one way or the other. That’s just a name you always used to drop. She sure did a number on you though.
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: So who was Gracie’s lawyer when she got charged with auto theft at age 15?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: No lawyer has ever said that you are the reason Madoff got locked up.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks you should ask the lawyers Marc Litt Wendy Olson and David Kotz about Madoff and I N'esy Pas Mr Private investigator??
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray:I have no clue However you should not bring up the affairs of underage girls Methinks whereas you have been stalking my little darling since she was 12 you should know N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: I am beginning to doubt that you are whom you claim to be because Dirty Dicky ain't that smart even though he claims otherwise Perhaps my first hunch may be correct and you are Deputy Dog after all EH?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Fact checked that one years ago. Olson didn’t remember you at all. If you have proof to the contrary (and form-letter responses to emails don’t count) I’ll walk away right now.  
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Man you relish this attention even though the guy is slamming you time after time. Sad sad man
 
 
Harvey York 
Reply to @Ray Oliver: he totally gets off on it. Probably drinking a viagra smoothie while he reads all these 
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @Ray Oliver: That’s what it all boils down to. He just likes seeing his name in print. Makes him feel like something other than a mental defective.
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: It’s quite a bit more likely that I’m Dan or John...or that I have a daddy named Cleveland...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: True
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks Tony Danny Boy's strange geeky daddy is far too much of a space cadet to figure what his son was up to but Hiigy's lawyer buddy Cleveland got hard copy in 2006 and the Duke his best buddy G$ know it N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: By the way I just spoke with Susan at Jardine. You did not call them and they did not send you any emails. They are trying to reach you though. And just in case you don’t get the answer you need here’s an early Christmas present: The name of the guy who won the auction and has the Panhead is Kevin Jackson. Ring any bells? I suspect you probably guessed that already though.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: BS I talked to Blair again yesterday thanked him for the email and explained to him what was up Furthermore Jackson is in Ontario
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks you are like moth to the flame and have no clue as to what i am up to N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Susan says otherwise. And if Kevin got transferred to Ontario then that’s where your bike is.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks the Fat Fred City Finest will enjoy reading that BS N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Making a rear end of yourself as per usual I assume.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Too Too Funny
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: They stopped reading your emails ten years ago.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Nay not so
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: I talked to Longo personally after two cops called me to dicuss ustice bell's decision Ehe even recognized my voice and sent two cops to court to take pictures of Chucky and his cohort Andre and my buddies too I bet you didn't know that EH? 
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: I bet YOU didn’t know that I’ve had dinner with Reid Chedore on half a dozen occasions.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: If you are Deputy Dog then of course you would You are both brother in laws of mine 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: BTW Hows Chedore doing dealing with the investigation of him in the law society?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Does mommy still call you Dalevid?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: so you're related to the lawyer Chedore? Haha. And you sue lawyers. He must think you're a peach
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Yup
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks you mo rons really should have read my documents before bringing up Chedore FYI my sister is a lawyer too and everbody knows why I am honoured that they hate me N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Why don’t you ask Nancy? Or are you still not speaking?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks you have no clue whats been happening You are just desperately fishing for info because you are in deep doo doo N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Form-letter responses don’t help your case pal.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks the RCMP know I am not pal of yours in fact I doubt you have any friends at all whomever you may truly be N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Nope. Not in any kind of doo doo with the exception of much of what you type. You are no doubt attempting to get another waste-of-time lawsuit together. That’s what’s been happening.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: 3 actually
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Incorrect ma’am.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Ohhh 3 big lawsuits. Exciting!!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I trust that you will never read them
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @Ray Oliver: This will be some excellent comedy if he’s serious.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks one thing you and your RCMP buddies know for certain is that I am as serious as a heart attack N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Now are you actually going to have the balls to say my name this time or am I still going to be “one government employee”?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Duhhh???? You are named in T-1557-15
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: You refer everyone daily to T-90210 or whatever it is so im sure you are totally unable to keep your successes private
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Oh you are no doubt drooling all over keyboard.
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: wouldn't it get caught in that rats nest hanging off his chin before it hit the keyboard though?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: I bet you would never dare to say that to me in person and standing toe to toe with me
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: Dean Roger Ray is. But I’m not really him. You never mentioned me except to say “...and one government employee”
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @Ray Oliver: It does. But he’s one fierce slobbering animal...
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Oh My My So you admit are breaking the rules of this forum while acting as a government employee?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: I betcha 20 loonies he would. Why would he be scared of a man who was turned down by the RCMP recruiter for being too short (true story...tell em Davey)
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: sure. what overpass do you dwell under? Just give me the mile marker..
 
 
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Ask Higgy where I live If you come to my private property your skinny little arse is MINE
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: I said you referred to me as “one government employee.”. No more and no less. You suck at pro-se arguments buddy.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: BRB I have to blog all this malicious this nonsense of yours before it goes "Poof"
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: And no doubt changed the pants you’ve soiled in anger eh old man?
 
 
 
https://media.viafoura.net/user_pictures/1374800020365_2_120x120.jpg 
Max Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Actually Papa only changes clothes when he showers which is once every two weeks or so. Be careful about making him mad and having accidents because he has been known to leave his dirty pants on still. Thanks in advance babes. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
I listened to CBC this morning celebrate Smiths last day and just shook my head for obvious reasons

Methinks I will send him one last email for equally obvious reasons N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Straight to the Spam bin once again, just for old times sake.
 
 
Mary MacKenzie
Reply to @David Amos: It seems you posted on the wrong article.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Mary MacKenzie: NOPE this is his last article

Methinks Higgy everybody else "in the know" knows why I laughed when the unemployed Hance Colburne called in to his old show N'esy Pas?
 
  
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: What you said of my children will never be forgiven
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: again. Think you have me confused with others on here.. I strictly like my digs at you only hahah
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: BTW I just got off the phone with your hero Mr Smith
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: "Hey look everyone someone answered my call! They did, they really did!"
 
 
David White
Reply to @David Amos: no
 
 
David White
Reply to @David Amos: Was it plugged in this time?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David White: its just his nurse that answers they let him have a little victory every once in a while in the ward to keep his spirits up
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Douglas James
"Upfront costs could be a barrier to some. Rekounas paid $820 for the required Starlink hardware, a satellite receiving dish, modem, power supply and 100 feet of cable. The subscription fee is then $130 a month." I live in Saint John and pay $120 a month in the great Bell ripoff so $130 doesn't sound too bad at all, even with the requirement for hardware.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas James: I want it ASAP
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks your old associate Smith knows its rather obvious I need it for the little rural abode that the RCMP shills falsely claim I don't own N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: The taxpayer will cover that for you. Along with the rest of your adulthood we have
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: who did you scam to get this abode? You didn't come by it honestly thats for certain
 
 
David White
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Is a cardboard box under a bridge called an Abode now?
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos: some people shouldn't be allowed to have internet. You're one of them
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Harvey York: Methinks many Feds on both sides of the Medicine Line no doubt agree with you N'esy Pas? 
 
 
Harvey York 
Reply to @David Amos: as do many tax paying, law abiding citizens who resent that their taxes support your nincompoopery
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Harvey York: None of your cohorts support me

However no tax payer dollars support me either Hell I don't even have a medicare card or EVEN a Social Insurance Number REMEMBER???
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: Now that right there is BS. No SIN #. Ya right
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Reply to @David Amos: you don't work what do you need one of those for anyway?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David White
There is a huge difference between 'Rural High Speed' and 'Urban High Speed', what are the download/upload speeds on this system? There is no context to the story without that.
 
 
Mat Land
Reply to @David White: as per the included photo, he's getting 150 Mbps.
 
 
Ed Roberts
Reply to @David White: Did you see the picture on this post. It shows 150 Mbps down, which is a bit high because most posts on Youtube are always above 50 Mbps down and well up into the hundreds and above 30 Mmpb upload. The delays is average 30 ms. Outright top end performance especially since Starlink is unlimited data.
 
 
David White
Reply to @David White: Great did not see that on my phone screen, would be nice to see that in text.
 
 
Greg Rekounas
Reply to @David White: Using Ookia Speedtest app just now, I got 109 Mbps, and 15.8 on the upload.

Really low latency, and had no rain fade issues with the heavy rain we had last couple of days.
 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Rekounas: How did you manage to get it? I registered but nothing thus far and i live across the ferry from you in the hills and certainly could use it ASAP
 
 
Rory Weiner
Reply to @David Amos: Same question here , I signed up on their site months ago , still fingers crossed
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: credit check ?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks the CRTC, the CRAand Higgy et al must recall why I gave the Space X office a call quite a while ago and left a message for their tax lawyer Michael Sylvester N'esy Pas? 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Rory Weiner: FYI Not that it should make any difference but my son and i are fans of Musk and my son does live in California and drives a brand new Tesla
I wanted to get the service so bad that I even Musk's lawyer a call but to no avail.

Methinks I have the right to suspect why I am being ignored is political in nature N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
https://media.viafoura.net/user_pictures/1374800020365_2_120x120.jpg
Max Amos
Reply to @David Amos: That’s correct. My boyfriend bought me one for my birthday. He’s such a sweetie. But yeah Tesla makes some great cars.
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: No. It’s because lawyers don’t have the ability to establish internet service. His people are not going to waste their time even bothering to tell you to call Customer Service.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Methinks you do have no clue FYI Dummy he was the dude who represented Musk before the CRTC so Musk could sell us Internet service Mr Jones should have informed you that the lawyer for the EUB I argued is its latest Commissioner N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Max Amos: Oh My MY looks like my son has every right to sue the Queen i the US of A EH?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rory Weiner
Question for Greg Rekounas if you're monitoring this. Is the monthly data unlimited?
 
 
Johnny Jakobs
Reply to @Rory Weiner: great question. I was wondering the same thing.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Me too
 
 
 
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 17:30:36 -0400
Subject: Yo Higgy It seems that Musk's lawyer Michael Sylvester is
retired just like sneaky Connell Smith did today EH?
To: michael.sylvester@spacex.com, Connell.smith@cbc.ca, washington
field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "Robert. Jones"
<Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, kim.brisson-st-jean@crtc.gc.ca
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "Mark.Blakely"
<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
"hugh.flemming"<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "sylvie.gadoury"
<sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca>, "Chuck.Thompson"
<Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca>, "charles.murray"<charles.murray@gnb.ca>,
"Ross.Wetmore"<Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, "Roger.Brown"
<Roger.Brown@fredericton.ca>, "rob.moore"<rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Michael Sylvester <Michael.Sylvester@spacex.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:23:41 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Michael Sylvester I just called again
say Hey to Connell Smith and CBC for me will ya?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

I am no longer working at SpaceX as of Monday, November 16, 2020. To
contact SpaceX, please call our headquarters at (310) 363-6000 and ask
for the Finance Department.


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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:25:11 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Michael Sylvester I just called again
say Hey to Connell Smith and CBC for me will ya?
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On 11/27/20, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/11/connell-smith-last-yap-about-elon-musks.html
>
>
> Friday, 27 November 2020
>
> Connell Smith Last Yap About Elon Musk's satellites now streaming to
> some rural N.B. homes
>
> https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
>
> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @alllibertynews and 49 others
> I listened to CBC this morning celebrate Smiths last day and just
> shook my head for obvious reasons
>
> Methinks I will send him one last email for equally obvious reasons N'esy
> Pas?
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/11/connell-smith-last-yap-about-elon-musks.html
>
>  #cdnpoli #nbpoli
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/satellite-internet-low-earth-orbit-streaming-video-conferencing-1.5817966
>
> Elon Musk's satellites now streaming to some rural N.B. homes
> Public launch of service possible by mid-2021
>
> Connell Smith · CBC News · Posted: Nov 27, 2020 7:00 AM AT
>
>
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/elon-musks-satellite-internet-plan-gets.html
>
>
> Tuesday, 20 October 2020
>
> Elon Musk's satellite internet plan gets green light from Canadian
> regulator
>
> https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
>
>
> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @alllibertynews and 49 others
> Methinks Higgy et al should well understand why I gave the Space X
> office a call today and left a message for their tax lawyer Michael
> Sylvester N'esy Pas?
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/elon-musks-satellite-internet-plan-gets.html
>
> #cdnpoli #nbpoli
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/elon-musk-tesla-starlink-low-earth-orbit-high-speed-rural-internet-rockets-satellite-1.5768338
>
> Elon Musk's satellite internet plan gets green light from Canadian
> regulator
> Tesla co-founder's space company plans to launch 12,000 low-orbit
> internet satellites
>
> Connell Smith · CBC News · Posted: Oct 20, 2020 8:00 AM AT
>
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Thursday, 1 February 2018

Methinks the lawyers who oversee the CBC should review their own unofficial memos before CBC spills the beans on their buddies in the RCMP N'esy Pas Hubby Lacroix and Minister Joly?

How many times has CBC checked my work since I talked to the snobby Sophia Harris in 2002 and sent her Hard Copy as requested or since their Senior Legal Counsel Edith Cody Rice sent me an email in 2009 and we talked?

Methinks their many lawyers should check page 14 of this file before CBC or anyone else tries to call me liar again N'esy Pas?

https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right


Anyone recall this blog I created exactly 14 years after CBC received Hard Copy and not very long after after Mean Mikey Duffy was off the hook and seated in the Senate again. Anybody bother to notice that Duffy sent me an email to cover his nasty fat evil arse?


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2016/07/re-interesting-response-i-got-today.html


Saturday, 16 July 2016


Re Interesting response I got today from Mean Mikey Duffy's BlackBerry to a 3 week old email about a 3 year old email to Cpl Greg Horton of the RCMP EH?


>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Edith Cody-Rice
>> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:53:07 -0500
>> Subject: Calls and E-mails to CBC
>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>> Cc: Rob Renaud
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>
>> CBC personnel have contacted me concerning your calls and e-mails to
>> them. As you are threatening legal action, would you kindly direct any
>> further calls or correspondence to me. Other CBC personnel will not
>> respond further to your correspondence or calls.
>>
>>
>> Edith Cody-Rice
>> Senior Legal Counsel
>> Premier Conseiller juridique
>> CBC/Radio-Canada
>> 181 Queen Street, Ottawa, Ontario K1P 1K9
>> Postal Address: P.O. Box 3220, Station C, Ottawa K1Y 1E4
>> Tel: (613) 288-6164
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After listening and reading the news about the RCMP today and my calls to CBC and the RCMP again after sending this email and one other found below methinks their "investigators" should FINALLY check my work very closely ASAP EH?


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:35:52 -0400
Subject: RE Unofficial RCMP 'sissy' memo
To: dave.seglins@cbc.ca, rachel.houlihan@cbc.ca,
Harold.Pfleiderer@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, blueline@blueline.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
 ethics-ethique <ethics-ethique@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
 "Liliana.Longo"<Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"hon.ralph.goodale"<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>

http://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/unofficial-rcmp-sissy-memo-a-sign-of-toxic-work-environment-women-say-1.4511804

Unofficial RCMP 'sissy' memo a sign of toxic work environment, women say
Mounties need house-cleaning and better training, say women involved
in harassment class action
By Rachel Houlihan, Dave Seglins, CBC News Posted: Feb 01, 2018 4:00 AM E

Contact information

Sgt. Harold Pfleiderer
RCMP Media Relations
613-796-8268 cellphone

Sgt. Penny Hermann
RCMP "O" Division Media Relations
PHONE # 416-992-4409

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---------- Original  message ----------
From: David Amos < motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:43:44 -0400
Subject: Re: RE Unofficial RCMP 'sissy' memo
To: dave.seglins@cbc.ca, rachel.houlihan@cbc.ca,
Harold.Pfleiderer@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, ethics-ethique
<ethics-ethique@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Liliana.Longo"
<Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>

---------- Original message ----------
From: Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 23:05:45 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Mr Fertuck Don't bother your colleagues not
one of them called me back. Obviously the best people to explain my
concerns to you would be your bosses Ministers Navdeep Bains, Kirsty
Duncan and Bardish Chagger
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for writing to the Honourable Jody Wilson-Raybould, Member
of Parliament for Vancouver Granville.

This message is to acknowledge that we are in receipt of your email.
Due to the significant increase in the volume of correspondence, there
may be a delay in processing your email. Rest assured that your
message will be carefully reviewed.

To help us address your concerns more quickly, please include within
the body of your email your full name, address, and postal code.

Please note that your message will be forwarded to the Department of
Justice if it concerns topics pertaining to the member's role as the
Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada. For all future
correspondence addressed to the Minister of Justice, please write
directly to the Department of Justice at
mcu@justice.gc.camcu@justice.gc.ca
> or call 613-957-4222.

Thank you

-------------------

Merci d'?crire ? l'honorable Jody Wilson-Raybould, d?put?e de
Vancouver Granville.

Le pr?sent message vise ? vous informer que nous avons re?u votre
courriel. En raison d'une augmentation importante du volume de
correspondance, il pourrait y avoir un retard dans le traitement de
votre courriel. Sachez que votre message sera examin? attentivement.

Pour nous aider ? r?pondre ? vos pr?occupations plus rapidement,
veuillez inclure dans le corps de votre courriel votre nom complet,
votre adresse et votre code postal.

Veuillez prendre note que votre message sera transmis au minist?re de
la Justice s'il porte sur des sujets qui rel?vent du r?le de la
d?put?e en tant que ministre de la Justice et procureure g?n?rale du
Canada. Pour toute correspondance future adress?e ? la ministre de la
Justice, veuillez ?crire directement au minist?re de la Justice ?
mcu@justice.gc.camcu@justice.gc.ca> ou appelez au
613-957-4222.

Merci


---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 19:05:18 -0400
Subject: Mr Fertuck Don't bother your colleagues not one of them
called me back. Obviously the best people to explain my concerns to
you would be your bosses Ministers Navdeep Bains, Kirsty Duncan and
Bardish Chagger
To: stephen.fertuck@canada.ca, "Kent.Hehr"<Kent.Hehr@parl.gc.ca>,
"Hunter.Tootoo"< Hunter.Tootoo@parl.gc.ca>, "Navdeep.Bains"
<Navdeep.Bains@parl.gc.ca>, kirsty.duncan@parl.gc.ca, "Chagger,
Bardish - M.P. :HoC"<bardish.chagger@parl.gc.ca>, Mike Tessier
<tessiermike@shaw.ca>, "Michael.Wernick"
<Michael.Wernick@pco-bcp.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"
<Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca>, "Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc"
<Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>

I they are too busy perhaps Ministers Dominic Leblanc, Ralph
Goodale,and Jody.Wilson-Raybould or their boss Prime Minister Trudeau
"The Younger' and his assistants or possibly Michael Wernick, Kent
Hehr or Hunter.Tootoo can explain my concerns about beer and the
Supreme Court amongst many other things that caused me to run for
public office against their political parties five times and why I
finally sued the Crown.

I know for certain the sneaky lawyer Howie Anglin and his buddy Mikey
Tessier never will.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Fertuck, Stephen (IC)"<stephen.fertuck@canada.ca>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 21:31:36 +0000
Subject: RE: Need I say that I am tired of being called a liar by
drunken fools and mindless bureaucrats? Best check my work ASAP as
Nasty Little Mikey Tessier suggested months ago
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Hi David,
Thanks for leaving a phone message yesterday on my voicemail.
Please let me know if there's a specific question that you'd like to pose.

I'm out of the office February 1-5, but would appreciate receiving any
query in writing so that I can better direct one of my colleagues on
how to respond.

Regards, Stephen


Stephen Fertuck

Director, Internal Trade
Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada / Government of Canada
Stephen.Fertuck@canada.ca / Tel: 343-291-2606

Directeur, commerce intérieur
Innovation, Sciences et Développement économique Canada / Gouvernment du Canada
Stephen.Fertuck@canada.ca / Tel: 343-291-2606



-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.com]
Sent: January-30-18 2:24 PM
To: Fertuck, Stephen (IC); andrew.hashey@gnb.ca;
marie-andree.marquis@economie.gouv.qc.ca;
J.Andrew.MacDonald@novascotia.ca; kbwhitnell@gov.pe.ca;
rsquires@gov.nl.ca; richard.caine@ontario.ca; tami.reynolds@gov.mb.ca;
arla.cameron@gov.sk.ca; lorraine.andras@gov.ab.ca;
matthew.carnaghan@gov.bc.ca; barbara.dunlop@gov.yk.ca;
alexandrea_malakoe@gov.nt.ca; Mackay, G (Ext.)
Cc: David Amos; pcaron@ait-aci.ca; pfortier@ait-aci.ca;
kdewar@ait-aci.ca; mmacces-nimi@ait-aci.ca; Mike Tessier;
serge.rousselle; premier
Subject: Need I say that I am tired of being called a liar by drunken
fools and mindless bureaucrats? Best check my work ASAP as Nasty
Little Mikey Tessier suggested months ago

Need I remind the Justice Dept that I am about to make an application to
the Supreme Court because of this wicked decision?  Please enjoy


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html

Sunday, 19 November 2017

Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
The Supreme Court

https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do
 
 
---------- Original message ----------
From: Chuck Thompson <chuck.thompson@cbc.ca>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:20:57 -0800
Subject: Annual Leave Re: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 YO HUBBY
LACRIOX WHY DOES CBC CONTINUE TO BLOCK MY COMMENTS AND IGNORE MY
LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CROWN?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

I'll be away from the office until Monday, February 1st.  In my
absence, please contact Emma Bedard at emma.bedard@cbc.ca or on
416-205-7831.

Thanks,
Chuck

Chuck Thompson
Head of Public Affairs
CBC English Services
416-205-3747
416-509-3315 (cell)


--
Chuck Thompson
Head of Public Affairs
CBC English Services
416-205-3747
416-509-3315 (cell)



---------- Original message ----------
From: Dan Ciraco <dan.ciraco@cbc.ca>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:20:55 -0800
Subject: OUT OF OFFICE Re: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 YO HUBBY
LACRIOX WHY DOES CBC CONTINUE TO BLOCK MY COMMENTS AND IGNORE MY
LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CROWN?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

I am currently out of the office, returning on February 1, 2016.

For immediate assistance, please contact my assistant at andre.st-amant@cbc.ca

Thank you.


--
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Senior Legal Counsel
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
416-205-3352
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---------- Original message ----------
From: Chuck Thompson <chuck.thompson@cbc.ca>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:20:57 -0800
Subject: Annual Leave Re: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 YO HUBBY
LACRIOX WHY DOES CBC CONTINUE TO BLOCK MY COMMENTS AND IGNORE MY
LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CROWN?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

I'll be away from the office until Monday, February 1st.  In my
absence, please contact Emma Bedard at emma.bedard@cbc.ca or on
416-205-7831.

Thanks,
Chuck

Chuck Thompson
Head of Public Affairs
CBC English Services
416-205-3747
416-509-3315 (cell)


--
Chuck Thompson
Head of Public Affairs
CBC English Services
416-205-3747
416-509-3315 (cell)



---------- Original message ----------
From: Dan Ciraco <dan.ciraco@cbc.ca>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:20:55 -0800
Subject: OUT OF OFFICE Re: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 YO HUBBY
LACRIOX WHY DOES CBC CONTINUE TO BLOCK MY COMMENTS AND IGNORE MY
LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CROWN?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

I am currently out of the office, returning on February 1, 2016.

For immediate assistance, please contact my assistant at andre.st-amant@cbc.ca

Thank you.


--
Dan Ciraco
Senior Legal Counsel
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
416-205-3352
 [image]
NOTICE :  This e-mail is confidential, may be privileged and is
intended for the exclusive use of the addressee.  If you are not the
intended recipient, please notify us immediately and delete all
copies.  Thank you.
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Anderson-Mason, Andrea Hon. (JAG/JPG)"<Andrea.AndersonMason@gnb.ca>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:26:10 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Chuck.Thompson So when will you and your
lawyers and your pal Darrow MacIntyre finally answer an email from me?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>


Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are
greatly valued.  You can be assured that all emails and letters are
carefully read, reviewed and taken into consideration.
If your issue is Constituency related, please contact Lisa Bourque at
my constituency office at
Lisa.Bourque@gnb.ca<mailto:Lisa.Bourque@gnb.ca>  or  (506) 755-2810.
Thank you.


Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations. Nous
tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.
Si c’est au sujet du bureau de circonscription,  veuillez contacter
Lisa Bourque  à  Lisa.Bourque@gnb.ca<mailto:Lisa.Bourque@gnb.ca>  ou
(506)755-2810.
Merci.

Andrea Anderson-Mason, Q.C. / c.r.

​​​

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Côté, Yves"<Yves.Cote@cef-cce.ca>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:26:11 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Chuck.Thompson So when will you and your
lawyers and your pal Darrow MacIntyre finally answer an email from me?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Je serai de retour au bureau le 19 nov prochain.

En cas d'urgence, communiquez avec Claire Courchesne au 819 939-2061.

--
I will be back in the office on November 19th, 2019.

In case of emergency, contact Claire Courchesne at 819 939-2061.



---------- Original message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"<fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:26:18 +0000
Subject: RE: YO Chuck.Thompson So when will you and your lawyers and
your pal Darrow MacIntyre finally answer an email from me?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
comments.

Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
commentaires.


---------- Original message ----------
From: Newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:26:12 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Chuck.Thompson So when will you and your
lawyers and your pal Darrow MacIntyre finally answer an email from me?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for contacting The Globe and Mail.

If your matter pertains to newspaper delivery or you require technical
support, please contact our Customer Service department at
1-800-387-5400 or send an email to customerservice@globeandmail.com

If you are reporting a factual error please forward your email to
publiceditor@globeandmail.com<mailto:publiceditor@globeandmail.com>

Letters to the Editor can be sent to letters@globeandmail.com

This is the correct email address for requests for news coverage and
press releases.



---------- Original message ----------
From: Elizabeth.May@parl.gc.ca
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:26:37 +0000
Subject: Thank you for contacting the Office of Elizabeth May, O.C., M.P
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com

Thank you for contacting me. This response is to assure you that your
message has been received. I welcome and appreciate receiving comments
and questions from constituents.

I receive a much larger volume of correspondence (postal and email)
than the average MP. All emails are reviewed on a regular basis,
however due to the high volume of emails my office receives, I may not
be able to respond personally to each one.

My constituents in Saanich-Gulf Islands are my highest priority. If
you are a constituent, please email
elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca<mailto:elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca>. To
help me serve you better, please ensure that your email includes your
full name and street address with your postal code.

For meeting requests and invitations, please email
requests@elizabethmaymp.ca<mailto:requests@elizabethmaymp.ca>.

Thank you once again for contacting me.

Elizabeth May, O.C.
Member of Parliament
Saanich - Gulf Islands
Leader of the Green Party of Canada


Je vous remercie d'avoir communiqué avec moi. La présente réponse vous
confirme que votre message a été reçu. Les questions et les
commentaires des électeurs sont toujours les bienvenus.

Je reçois une correspondance (postale et électronique) beaucoup plus
abondante que le député type. Tous les messages électroniques sont lus
régulièrement, mais, en raison de l'abondance des courriels reçus à
mon bureau, il se peut que je ne sois pas en mesure de répondre
personnellement à chacun d'entre eux.

Mes électeurs de Saanich-Gulf Islands passent en premier. Si vous êtes
un électeur, veuillez écrire à
elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca<mailto:elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca>.
Pour m'aider à mieux vous servir, veillez à ce que votre courriel
comporte votre nom complet, votre adresse municipale et votre code
postal.

Pour les demandes de rencontre et les invitations, veuillez écrire à
requests@elizabethmaymp.ca<mailto:requests@elizabethmaymp.ca>.

Je vous remercie encore d'avoir communiqué avec moi.


Elizabeth May, O.C.
Députée à la Chambre des communes
Saanich-Gulf Islands
Chef du Parti vert du Canada




---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 13:26:06 -0400
Subject: YO Chuck.Thompson So when will you and your lawyers and your
pal Darrow MacIntyre finally answer an email from me?
To: Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, terry.seguin@cbc.ca,
daniel.mchardie@cbc.ca, serge.rousselle@gnb.ca,
Serge.Cormier@parl.gc.ca, jeremy.keefe@globalnews.ca,
newsroom@globeandmail.ca, tj@burkelaw.ca, kelly@lamrockslaw.com,
Wayne.Long@parl.gc.ca, Pat.Finnigan@parl.gc.ca,
Rene.Arseneault@parl.gc.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca,
COCMoncton@gmail.com, leader@greenparty.ca, elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca,
Alex.Johnston@cbc.ca, sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca,
darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca, hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca,
Robert.Jones@cbc.ca, Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca, Bill.Morneau@canada.ca,
news@dailygleaner.com, steve.murphy@ctv.ca, David.Akin@globalnews.ca,
martine.turcotte@bell.ca, pablo.rodriguez@parl.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca,
Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca,
PETER.MACKAY@bakermckenzie.com, Frank.McKenna@td.com,
geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca, Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca,
hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, robert.mckee@gnb.ca, brian.gallant@gnb.ca,
benoit.bourque@gnb.ca, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
barb.whitenect@gnb.ca, Gilles.Cote@gnb.ca, Yves.Cote@elections.ca,
andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca, john.logan@gnb.ca, Mike.Comeau@gnb.ca,
briangallant10@gmail.com, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca,
bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, bruce.fitch@gnb.ca, bruce.northrup@gnb.ca,
carl.urquhart@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca
Cc: motomaniac333@gmail.com, Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca,
Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca, jesse@viafoura.com, jesse@jessebrown.ca, sfine
<sfine@globeandmail.com>

https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies


David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks CBC's very dumb lawyers must have figured out by now that I
save the proof of everything I say and do N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/11/fundy-royal-campaign-targets-middle.html

#cdnpoli #nbpoli

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

---------- Original message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"<fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 22:40:03 +0000
Subject: RE: Attn Chuck.Thompson remember my call to YOU last week
well before polling day was upon us again? So will finally answer an
email?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
comments.

Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
commentaires.


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/10/liberals-take-losses-but-win-enough-in.html



Tuesday, 22 October 2019

Liberals take losses but win enough in Quebec and Ontario to form
minority government




---------- Original message ----------
From: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:17:20 -0300
Subject: YO Mr Butts Methinks that Mr Scheer and your many cohorts can
never deny the obvious reasons why I ust sue the Queen again N'esy Pas?
To: pm@pm.gc.ca, Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca,
andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, PETER.MACKAY@bakermckenzie.com,
Frank.McKenna@td.com, geoff.regan@parl.gc.ca,
Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca,
robert.mckee@gnb.ca, brian.gallant@gnb.ca, benoit.bourque@gnb.ca,
Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, barb.whitenect@gnb.ca
Cc: motomaniac333@gmail.comGilles.Cote@gnb.ca,
Yves.Cote@elections.ca, andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca,
john.logan@gnb.caMike.Comeau@gnb.ca,
briangallant10@gmail.com,dan.bussieres@gnb.ca,
bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, bruce.fitch@gnb.ca, bruce.northrup@gnb.ca,
carl.urquhart@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca,kris.austin@gnb.ca

It is very offensive that Dominic Leblanc gets the best of Health Care
for free while I have to pay EH?


---------- Original message ----------
From: Ministerial Correspondence Unit - Justice Canada <mcu@justice.gc.ca>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 13:48:28 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks Richard Lehoux and Michael Kram
must remember my emails and calls At least they must admit that the
not so Honourable lawyers Ralph Goodale, his buddy Maxime Bernie and
YOU know there are more lawsuits coming N'esy Pas Jody.Wi...
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thank you for writing to the Honourable David Lametti, Minister of
Justice and Attorney General of Canada.
Please be assured that your email has been received and will be read with care.
However, in light of the federal elections being held on October 21,
there may be a delay in processing your email.

_________________________________________________________________

Merci d'avoir écrit à l'honorable David Lametti, ministre de la
Justice et procureur général du Canada.
Soyez assuré que votre courriel a bien été reçu et que celui-ci sera
lu avec soin.
Cependant, compte tenu des élections fédérales du 21 octobre prochain,
veuillez prendre note qu'il pourrait y avoir un retard dans le
traitement de votre courriel.



https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies


David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @FloryGoncalves and 49 others
Content disabled as per the CBC MO

Methinks it must be rotting Mr Scheer's socks knowing that Mr Butts
gets to keep his fancy job helping Justin pick his socks while his
leadership job is in jeopardy N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/10/liberals-take-losses-but-win-enough-in.html


#cdnpoli #nbpoli


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/federal-election-results-2019-cbc-leaders-1.5329485



---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 19:39:56 -0300
Subject: Attn Chuck.Thompson remember my call to YOU last week well
before polling day was upon us again? So will finally answer an email?
To: Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, terry.seguin@cbc.ca,
daniel.mchardie@cbc.ca, serge.rousselle@gnb.ca,
Serge.Cormier@parl.gc.ca, jeremy.keefe@globalnews.ca,
newsroom@globeandmail.ca, tj tj@burkelaw.ca, kelly@lamrockslaw.com,
Wayne.Long@parl.gc.ca, Pat.Finnigan@parl.gc.ca,
Rene.Arseneault@parl.gc.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca,
COCMoncton@gmail.com, leader@greenparty.ca, elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca,
Alex.Johnston@cbc.ca>, sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca,
darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca, hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca,
Robert.Jones@cbc.ca, Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca, Bill.Morneau@canada.ca,
news@dailygleaner.com, steve.murphy@ctv.ca, David.Akin@globalnews.ca,
martine.turcotte@bell.ca, pablo.rodriguez@parl.gc.ca
Cc: motomaniac333@gmail.com, Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca,
Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca, jesse@viafoura.com, jesse@jessebrown.ca

Well whether you do or not here is a little Deja Vu for the Powers
that Be in CBC and VIAFOURA and something else to bring you people who
wish to forget who you truly work for up to date as well


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/12/a-little-deja-vu-for-cbc-et-al-to-enjoy.html

Friday, 22 December 2017

A little Deja Vu for CBC et al to enjoy at Xmass time while I write an
application to the Supreme Court

While CBC and their evil buddies in Viafoura continue to block the ID
they made me create in 2016 my original ID that they used to block
when I ran for a seat in Parliament still works when their mindless
moderators allow it.  Go Figure

"Your account has been banned until 1/3/2018. Reason: Final warning:
Your username is not keeping within our Submission Guidelines, for
more information please visit:
http://www.cbc.ca/aboutcbc/discover/submissions.html. When your
account reactivates in 7 days, please change your username to
something that adheres to our Submission Guidelines."

Well I am still me whether I used my middle name or not and CBC is
still as crooked as the snakes they definitely are. Sometimes less is
more so I am only gonna make one comment and see how long it stands
the test of time because I see no need to waste much more of my
precious time with their malicious nonsense. It is way past High Time
to sue the nasty bastards and the CRTC overseers who have refused to
investigate any of my concerns for many years.

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/12/wow-liebrano-propaganda-machine-said.html

Saturday, 30 December 2017

WOW The LIEbrano Propaganda Machine said something correct for a
change "Candidates matter and the unexpected can happen"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-2017-elections-1.4450669

Candidates matter and the unexpected can happen: lessons from 2017's elections
The past year of elections featured some narrow victories, surprising
upsets and a few lessons to be learned
By Éric Grenier, CBC News Posted: Dec 30, 2017 5:00 AM ET


2303 Comments


Val Stavinski
Val Stavinski
Boring, boring, just boring Grenier and CBC, anything new or the same
old liberal-cooked data that promise a rosy future for all of the
"Sensitive and Diverse" Humanity.

In other Real News: Unethical Justin still rules my beautiful Canada
destroying it on a daily basis ...


David Amos
 @Val Stavinski Boring, boring, just boring??? I disagree I think its
an interesting circus being orchestrated by CBC and their pollster.

For example

"This doesn't mean that underdogs always win or that expectations are
always wrong. But every now and then, the polls miss the mark,
candidates pull off upsets and a series of events produce the least
likely of outcomes. And it could happen again in 2018."

YUP Methinks Grenier and CBC overlooked the biggest underdog of them
all N'esy Pas? Need I say I'm back?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276


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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 08:22:15 -0400
Subject: Methinks the big political story this year should be CBC
FAILING ITS MANDATE AGAIN BUT BIGTIME THIS TIME N'esy Pas Premier
Gallant?
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serge.rousselle@gnb.ca, Serge.Cormier@parl.gc.ca, nmoore@bellmedia.ca,
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hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca, Robert.Jones@cbc.ca, Paul.Harpelle@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/12/methinks-liebrano-lawyers-brag-way-too.html

Tuesday, 26 December 2017

Methinks LIEbrano lawyers brag way too much for their own good N'esy
Pas Mr Gallant?

Need I say BULLSHIT to the following CBC propaganda???


 https://cbchelp.cbc.ca/hc/en-ca/articles/219373908-Who-are-the-CBC-moderators-
 

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Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others   
Methinks I may try to intervene Conacher should dig up the documents I sent him and legions of lawyers etc before and after I ran in Fundy Royal against Higgy's lawyer buddy Rob Moore in 2004 N'esy Pas?

https://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006

 

 #cdnpoli #nbpoli

 

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-election-democracy-watch-blaine-higgs-1.5817550

 

Watchdog group says early New Brunswick election call was illegal

Democracy Watch says Blaine Higgs should not have been able to dissolve legislature, call election

 

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Nov 26, 2020 3:09 PM AT

 


Democracy Watch founder Duff Conacher says changes to the Legislative Assembly Act in 2007 took away the power of premiers to ask the lieutenant-governor to dissolve the legislature whenever they want to. (Adrian Wyld/CP)

An Ottawa-based watchdog group is asking a judge to rule that Premier Blaine Higgs's provincial election call in August was illegal because it violated fixed-date legislation.

Democracy Watch isn't looking to overturn the results of the Sept. 14 election but is asking the Court of Queen's Bench to declare that it was against the law.

Democracy Watch co-founder Duff Conacher said changes to the Legislative Assembly Act in 2007 took away the power of premiers to ask the lieutenant-governor to dissolve the legislature whenever they want to.

"To pass a bill and say 'This is changing all the rules,' and then say 13 years later, 'No, none of the rules changed,' is completely contradictory and goes totally against what's on the public record," he said.

Parliamentary expert Philippe Lagassé says Democracy Watch's legal action will go nowhere. (Courtesy of Philippe Lagassé)

But a leading expert on Canada's parliamentary system and its unwritten conventions said Conacher is wrong and the legal action will go nowhere.

Philippe Lagassé said Conacher's organization attempted the same thing in 2008 when former prime minister Stephen Harper called a snap election despite his own government's passage of a fixed-date election law.

And they lost.

"The precedents are well set," Lagassé said. "There's already a federal case that the provincial judges can look to. So it's a fruitless exercise." 

Higgs himself agrees.

"The premier is confident that he had the legal authority to call an election," said spokesperson Nicolle Carlin. "As the matter is now before the courts, we have no further comment."

A seeming caveat to New Brunswick's fixed-date requirement is in the law itself. 

The statute says elections must be called every four years but acknowledges that "nothing in this section" takes away from the lieutenant-governor's power and discretion under the Constitution to dissolve the legislature.

Conacher said the lieutenant-governor's discretion is already restricted by unwritten constitutional conventions that she can only do that on the advice of the premier.

And he said the premier, unlike the lieutenant-governor, can be reined in by the law. 

"What we're challenging is the premier's advice to the lieutenant-governor to dissolve the legislature and to call an election and set an election date," he said. "The legislature of New Brunswick prohibited those things back in 2007.

"The lieutenant-governor can only exercise that discretion to dissolve the legislature when advised by the premier and the cabinet, and the premier and cabinet [at the time] said, 'We're putting this measure in to say we're not allowed to advise you to do that except for every four years.'" 

For three elections in a row, premiers followed the fixed elected date and so did the lieutenant-governor, so that creates a convention.

- Duff Conacher, Democracy Watch

He said there's another key difference between the New Brunswick situation and what the Federal Court ruled on in 2009.

In the federal case, Harper was calling an early election without ever having followed his own fixed-date law, less than two years after it was passed.

In New Brunswick, three different premiers — Shawn Graham, David Alward and Brian Gallant — have all heeded the law in calling elections four years after the previous ones. 

"For three elections in a row, premiers followed the fixed elected date and so did the lieutenant-governor, so that creates a convention," he said.

But the 2009 Federal Court ruling also said that because conventions are unwritten rules that lack the force of law, the courts have no role in enforcing them. 

Early election for 'stability'

Higgs called this year's election because he said he needed "stability" that his minority government lacked to keep fighting COVID-19 and working on economic recovery.

In August he asked the three other parties in the legislature to sign an agreement committing to keep him in power until the scheduled election date in October 2022, in return for greater input into government policy.

Even though a deal with just the Greens and the People's Alliance would have given him that stability, Higgs called an election after the Liberals balked at the idea of an agreement.

He went on to win a majority government with 27 out of 49 seats.

Conacher said the main argument for having fixed-date election laws is they prevent, or should prevent, an incumbent government from controlling the timing of a campaign to its advantage.

"Snap elections very much favour the ruling party, and they're very unfair to everybody else," he says.

But Lagassé said that because the constitutional powers of a governor-general or lieutenant-governor can't be rewritten, the laws amount to a gimmick.

"Why do they exist? Because it looks good. But it doesn't do much." 

 

 

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David Amos
Methinks i may try to intervene in this matter Duffy should dig up the documents I sent him and many other lawyers including the Governor General and two Lt Governors in hand and byway of tracked Canada Post after I ran in Fundy Royal in 2004 against Higgy's lawyer buddy N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: you MAY try? Who are you kidding you're already diving in head first to something way out of your league. Velcro shoes and mittens with strings is your league!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Methinks its blatantly obvious that one mindless RCMP shill has no clue as to who I am or you would not have gone this far with your nonsense N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: I want your confidence. Its impressive. Its totally unwarranted. But impressive nonetheless
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Sue me big boy
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Whats your true name little fella?
 
 
David Amos:
Reply to @Ray Oliver: BTW You cooked your own goose the instant you that you knew about the wiretaps
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @David Amos: the whole world knows about the wiretaps ya nincompoop. You make it a point of telling people every day. It's a crying shame you weren't loved enough as a child. Your need for online attention is embarrassing. Do tell, how does one have a Medicare card revoked? Care to elaborate?
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Go at er with both feet ! Conacher , like you , appears to have filed numerous lawsuits that have pretty well all failed ! Tell us about the ones you have won !! Even one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @Ray Oliver: oh man, your goose is cooked. Hey, you want to meet up at the detachment and eat some donuts?
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to @Harvey York: we can play with confiscated Medicare cards and do burnouts on that old piece of junk Harley parked out back!
 
 
Randy Keith  
Reply to @David Amos: Just pathetic.
 
 
DeanRoger Ray 
Reply to @David Amos: No one cares about your form letter email replies. Instead why not intervene in Gracie’s heroin addiction?
 
 
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Max Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Soil your nappy again Papa? Someone will be around to change you in a bit.
 
 
Ron Linda 
Reply to @David Amos: And you lost - excellent.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Buford Wilson
Blaine did the right thing. Under the circumstances
 
 
David Amos
 Reply to @Buford Wilson: If that were remotely true then why did Higgy stop the municipal elections and force Darling et al to stay on the job he no longer wanted?
 
 
Randy Keith 
Reply to @Buford Wilson: It was definitely an unnecessary election. He should have focused on the required by-elections and continued to govern with the original mandate he was given. Accountability be damned ... he can now run rampant and unchecked.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
John Grail
Wouldn't surprise me that an Irving shill would skirt the law to their benefit
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @John Grail: He definitely did.
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @John Grail: Conacher ? He's threatening to file a failed suit he's already lost once ! He's like Trump , picking up uneducated social media idgets who are chasing the goose that laid the golden egg ! That egg is old and rotten !
 
 
John Grail
Reply to @Lou Bell: I really don't know if the assertions are true or not. I am just saying the Irvings basically right the law, so anyone working for them would probably know how to do that.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Lou DumBell: You like the eggs!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Jacques is hard at it again. Does he understand the distinction between journalism and political lobbying?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Methinks thats a rhetorical question N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire
CONservatives are known to flaunt the law, if not oblivious to the law. An illegal election, imagine that, now what?
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Jos Allaire: CONservatives don't like anyone digging dirt on them. And dirt, there is galore!
 
 
Ronald McCallum
Reply to @Jos Allaire:
Nothing illegal about the election. Read the story, especially Professor Philippe Lagasse's opinion.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks you know why I love digging dirt on all the politicians N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ronald McCallum: Methinks Professor Philippe Lagasse should recall why he did not impress me N'esy Pas?
 
 
Lou Bell  
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Anyone who read and understood the story would understand and realize the bS was fought once alrerady in the courts AND THEY LOST ! So , IT'S NOT THE LAW ! Liberals are so naive
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: So at what point did you discover you enjoy cross dressing?
 
 
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Max Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Actually he did wear mom’s skirts sometimes. Called it a kilt but it really wasn’t.
 
 
Jos Allaire
If not illegal, then it's a low-down sneaky attempt to gain power by calling an election during a pandemic that the voters of New Nouveau-Brunswick did not want. He called an election without a platform taking the credit for the low Covid numbers that he had nothing to do with. Since the election, the Covid infection numbers are going way up. Is he now going to take the blame for it? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jim Cyr
The media never fails to call even moderate groups “rightwing”. But notoriously leftwing groups (like this one) never get the same treatment. Huh.....
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Jim Cyr: CONservatives don't like anyone digging dirt on them. And dirt, there is galore!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Methinks the same can be said of you N'esy Pas?
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jos Allaire: Like this story , another failed attempt to dig up dirt that's just not there ? let's see if a suit is filed ! I guarantee it won't be !
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @David Amos: spoken by the digger by excellence!
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Jos Allaire: "par" excellence!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Paul Bourgoin
The Legislative Assembly Act in 2007 took away the power of premiers to ask the lieutenant-governor to dissolve the legislature whenever they want to. Who would have though or believed that New Brunswick has its own Trump!!!
 
 
Peter Churcher
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Not even close. The voters have spoken.
 
 
John Packowski 
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: this issue was resolved in 2008, when mr harper broke his own 'fixed date' election law the first chance he got. the court sided with mr harper: an even stronger convention (in canada, anyway) is that the sovereign's representative cannot reject the advice of the head of government - except in the most extraordinary of circumstances.

like balanced budget laws, this kind of law is populist junk.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Peter Churcher: All of the voters?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rob Sense
Impossible Saint Blaine would never do anything illegal
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Rob Sense: Impossible, Saint Jacques would never write a biased hit piece against the Anglos
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Sorry. I meant Higgs and the Conservatives. But then again look at who employs him. And who funds them
 
 
Peter Churcher 
Reply to @Ray Oliver: The taxpayers employ him and you make it sound like you know him...you don't. Give the man a chance.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: You should know
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Peter Churcher: Trust that Higgy and I know each other
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: Whoa! You know the Premier. What lofty circles you must run in!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: methinks you know as well as I that your hero Higgy and i detest each other N'esy Pas?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: oh I think you detest him alright. I think he could care less. There's this whole Premier job and a little Pandemic on the go at the moment, haven't you heard?
 
 
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Max Amos
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Forgive Papa. He’s wet himself again and needs to be changed. He gets a bit fussy when that happens.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Carl Bainbridge
I think it is an interesting exercise and one I like.

Personally, I believe if a government is given a minority mandate they should be required to serve the four years as a minority and be forced to cooperate to move forward.

While it will likely fail, I would love to see it not fail, and to see the judge actually overturn the entire election (because I do not see how they can declare it illegal and still allow the results to stand)
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Carl Bainbridge: So says an NDP dude
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jon Mark
Who would of thought - An organization named "Democracy Watch" attempting to overturn democracy.
 
 
Jim Cyr
Reply to @Jon Mark: classic liberal doublespeak, isn’t it
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jon Mark: Methinks the ghost of a certain liberal talk show host would affirm that Duff is a joke to me N'esy Pas?
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to @Jim Cyr: We hear ya, Trumpist!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Dan Armitage
your a little late
 
 
Graham McCormack 
Reply to @Dan Armitage: and wrong.
 
 
Matthew Smith 
Reply to @Dan Armitage: * you're *
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Dan Armitage: Methinks many would agree with me in that the fat lady ain't sung yet until the vote on the Throne Speech is history N'esy Pas?
 
 
DeanRoger Ray
Reply to @David Amos: I didn’t know Laura could sing.
 
 
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Max Amos
Reply to @DeanRoger Ray: Actually Reaghan is the singer of the fam. She’s not fat though (yet). Hopefully she won’t end up heavy like her ma but who knows.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Orsurbo Kreeg 
A "Watchdog" is supposed to alert you before the event, barking and such. This group is more like a "tattletale," see also "I'm teling mom!"
 
 
Matthew Smith
Reply to @Orsurbo Kreeg: *telling*
 
 
Orsurbo Kreeg 
Reply to @Matthew Smith: What, the "l" did I miss? Thanks -- you are cheaper than a proofreader and more fun than autocorrect.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Orsurbo Kreeg: Oh So True
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
James Smythe
And just look how well that “stability” is playing out Blaine, as we now have record infection levels, unprecedented authoritarianism, and an illegally elected majority government spiralling the province into chaos.
 
 
Jake Newman 
Reply to @James Smythe: get off the kool aid
 
 
Graham McCormack
Reply to @James Smythe: Maybe you should read the story.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to @Graham McCormack: Trust that I did
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell
Duff attempts to get his 15 minutes of fame and stumbles outta the gate ! Irrelevance breeds irrelevance once again !
 
 
Rob Sense
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Sounds like what you do only you fail more and we have to tolerate your feeble dimwitted attempts daily
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Rob Sense: You think you are witty?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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