After someone visited his store who was COVID-positive, Jeff Alpaugh, owner of Jeff Alpaugh Custom in Fredericton, says Public Health must find a way to be more transparent about public exposures. (Submitted by Jeff Alpaugh)
A Fredericton business owner says he has lost all faith in the Department of Health after a COVID-positive person visited his store earlier this month.
Jeff Alpaugh, owner of Jeff Alpaugh Custom in downtown Fredericton, said he gives more detailed guidance to customers on how to care for their new dress shirts than he received from health officials about what to do after being exposed to a deadly virus.
The information he received in an initial call from someone from Public Health was so "sketchy," Alpaugh thought he was being scammed.
This story is based on detailed notes, emails and texts kept by Alpaugh from the moment he received that first call alerting him that someone in his store had tested positive for COVID-19.
Dr. Jennifer Russell, chief medical officer of health, refused to respond to concerns in an interview but a communications person sent an email statement.
"Public Health has always provided the pertinent information the public needs to take measures to protect themselves," that statement reads.
Alpaugh said that for him, this was not the case.
The Fredericton businessman said it was about 4:30 p.m. on Tuesday when someone claiming to be from Public Health called his store and informed his manager the shop would need to close for 14 days.
Alpaugh was shocked by the lack of information that was exchanged in that first call, with the official refusing to give her last name or to leave a number.
Alpaugh's suspicions grew when he asked her to send him an official email verifying who she was and where she was calling from.
"She says, 'Well, that's not relevant,'" Alpaugh said.
"Well, it's pretty relevant to me. Like, are you calling from Ottawa? Are you in New Brunswick? Is this the Nigerian prince scam?'"
That's when she told him she had to go and might be able to send an email later that evening.
That evening, a confused Alpaugh called a local journalist as he tried to figure out whether there had been a new case of COVID-19 that the news media hadn't reported.
Then he called his lawyer trying to determine whether it was a scam, whether his staff could go home, and whether he needed to close his store.
"I got a phone call from Public Health today saying someone entered my store today who later tested positive for COVID. The caller is from [Saint John]. I am trying to determine if the call was legit. Did you … test positive today," he wrote.
The evening wore on with no further phone calls or emails from Public Health.
To confuse the situation ever more, Alpaugh contacted a government employee he knew. He said that person assured him the government would "never give you a phone call like that" on COVID-19, and then suggested he contact the police about what sounded like "a personal target attack."
"Then an hour later, he calls back and goes, 'You'll never believe it, but actually it was legit.'"
By the time Alpaugh got off the phone it was about 9:45 p.m., and he finally saw an email from the woman who originally called him.
"It's from that generic account she gave me. It's not a signed PDF or official letterhead … like I'd requested. There's no detailed instructions, no information I can really use."
The three-sentence email from Saint John Public Health was sent at 7:02 p.m. and asked that Alpaugh close his store for 24 hours and do "routine cleaning" and that his two staff members who were exposed isolate for 14 days.
At 8:28 p.m. he received another email from the Saint John region's medical officer of health, Dr. Kim Barker.
Barker asked Alpaugh to close his store for 24 hours "to permit enhanced cleaning," and for him to "support the requirement of your two staff to remain on self-isolation for 14 days."
Barker states in that email that the privacy of the COVID-positive person needs to be protected.
At the end of Day 1, Alpaugh still had no details from the Department of Health about who had tested positive and was therefore unable to narrow down which customers might have been exposed to COVID-19 or how close his staff were to the infected person.
After a sleepless night, on Wednesday, Alpaugh started contacting every client who was in the store the day before to let them know they may have been exposed to COVID-19.
"I was like, I'll give you this information because I have it, but nobody's told me what that actually means for you," he told them.
"There's no instructions. Who is doing the contact tracing? And if contact tracing is not required, why isn't it required? And when are they going to interview my staff and get their version of events? Like nobody's asked my staff any questions."
That afternoon a news release from the Health Department said one person, 20 to 29 years old, had tested positive with COVID in the Saint John region. It said the case is "related to travel outside of the Atlantic bubble" and the person is "self-isolating."
Later that day, Alpaugh said, the Saint John person who visited his store the day before, and who initially denied being infected, finally admitted he was COVID-positive.
Alpaugh was bothered by the fact the government release said the person was self-isolating, with no alert that he had been travelling around the province the day before. He described the news release as "purposely deceptive" about the whereabouts of an infectious individual.
"I don't know how many businesses he visited, but it seems unlikely he only visited me. [He] didn't go to a coffee shop? Didn't go to a McDonald's? Didn't go to a Walmart? Didn't go to a Costco?
"At this point I'm, like, 'What are the chances that mine is the only business that he came into? Probably zero.' And I haven't heard anything about anything else."
Alpaugh said he found the lack of information and transparency from Public Health "super disturbing."
At about 5 p.m. on Wednesday, more than 24 hours after the original phone call, Alpaugh received an email from Barker saying she had tried calling him three times but he didn't pick up the phone.
"Well, she's calling me from a no caller ID number," Alpaugh said. "I don't pick up no caller ID numbers. If you're in 2020 nobody does."
Despite his frustrations and intense stress, Alpaugh said, the conversation goes well and Barker apologizes, is empathetic, and talks to him about how the Department of Health can improve future communication. That call ends with a plan for Alpaugh and Barker to meet with a representative from WorkSafe NB the next day.
Since finding out about the COVID exposure in his store, Alpaugh said he still has not received any written or official information regarding what he and his employees should do, how he should advise his customers, nor details on contact tracing or testing.
CBC News requested an interview with Dr. Kim Barker but the Department of Health refused.
Alpaugh said it's "infuriating" that government officials expect small businesses like his to have detailed COVID plans but don't seem to have a detailed plan of their own to adequately support business people who are trying to navigate a COVID exposure.
"If you want to see my small business COVID plan, it is like the most nauseating legal document ever," he said. "It is so long and so thorough. These guys send me a one-liner email from the iPhone and that's all I got. But I'm supposed to have every 'I' dotted and every 'T' crossed?"
By day three, Alpaugh said, his stress level had only escalated. He hadn't slept more than three hours for the past two nights.
His staff were at home self-isolating while he single-handedly operated his business. Alpaugh's employees have not been interviewed by contact tracers.
"The only reason we didn't have to close for 14 days is I was able to personally run the store."
With the required 24-hour closure, and having to replace his two employees, Alpaugh estimated he lost $10,000 during the critical holiday season.
While Public Health officials have called every day to ensure his employees are self-isolating and asking whether they have symptoms, no further investigation has happened to Alpaugh's knowledge.
He called Barker and told her he is "losing faith in her and the government completely."
"And I just can't sleep at night. I just can't sleep."
Alpaugh said that in every phone call he had with government officials, he asked that he and his staff be tested for COVID.
Alpaugh believes a threat to people in Fredericton has gone unreported and that has kept him awake at night.
"I think incompetent management is giving incompetent orders to incompetent people."
"I give more detailed instructions to a client when I tell them to come and pick up their dress shirt."
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Methinks Gilles Lanteigne and I should finally have a long talk ASAP N'esy Pas?
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Subject: YO Mr Higgs Re My right to MEDICARE and NO MORE false
imprisonment Just as I get another bill from Vitalité I hear Horizon
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Methinks it must be because of my recent comments in CBC about your
nonsense about emergency Rooms etc N’esy Pas???
Here is just a few that are recorded within my blog etc
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/02/deputy-premier-must-decide-whether-to.html Wednesday, 12 February 2020
Deputy premier must decide whether to fall in line on health-care
reforms, Higgs says
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-doctor-sackville-hospital-emergency-room-closure-1.5462252 Doctor shortage forces overnight closure at Sackville ER
More er closures are possible before hours are permanently reduced on March 11
CBC News · Posted: Feb 13, 2020 11:32 AM AT
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David Amos
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Go Figure These are obviously not my Tweets but I did run against the lady
Chisholm Pothier
@chisholmp
·
Feb 10
The plan hasn’t even been announced yet and it’s already being
condemned. We know one thing for sure - we cannot keep delivering
Health the way we have. It isn’t sustainable with an aging population
and needs have changed with demographic change anyway. #nbpoli /1
Quote Tweet
Alaina Lockhart
@AlainaLockhart
· Feb 9
Premier @BlaineHiggs you can’t grow NB by reducing services in rural
areas. NB needs strong rural comms to thrive. The @townofsussex is key
to the region. You need to start thinking about the people impacted in
your quest to improve the bottom line.
https://twitter.com/nsteinbach_rc/ David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Chisholm Pothier no longer speaks for the
government Correct?
David Amos
Need I say I got a few calls after supper last night and the people
who called could tell I was pretty cranky about something? Trust that
what I heard on CBC this morning did not help my mood any..
David Amos
Methinks the real problem is that Higgy and Flemming can't get enough
bilingual folks who want to work within our Health Care System N'esy
Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks everybody knows since the time of
Trudeau The Elder New Brunswick has been a great place to grow up and
get an education but to find work most of our young ones must head
west somewhere on the far side of Quebec. If the truth hurts so be it
N'esy Pas?
David Amos
On CBC this morning I heard our mindless Health Minister direct folks
to the emergency room in another province. Methinks we have not heard
that last about that N'esy Pas??
Jim Cyr
The people of New Brunswick are some of the silliest people in the
world. It’s been hilarious to see almost all of them completely turn
off their brains and freak out over Higgs’ emergency rooms plan. The
people will now vote out the PCs, of course......just as their silly
media masters tell them to do. And so the NB medical/fiscal/poverty
situation will just get worse and worse and worse than it already is..
You can’t make this kind of stuff up, folks!! Amazing to see.
Mind-numbingly predictable and monotonous. It’s like kubuki theater at
this point.. BAD kubuki theater.....lol
David Amos
Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks you may be cluing in as to why I call this
a circus If you can't find fun in the madness then you will go crazy
like they claim I am. Yea I'm crazy alright. Some say I'm crazy like a
fox others say I am just another narcissistic fool Hard telling not
knowing for sure but one thing is for certain I am having fun laughing
at all the people who laughed at me N'esy Pas?
However I can be as crazy as i want to be Higgy should ask the shinks
in the loonie bin of the DECH what they did with the wiretap tape of
the mob that I gave them in 2008 that the RCMP refuse to investigate.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Jim Cyr:
Silly? It's just plain "goofy". And once the CONServatives are gone,
having been exchanged for the Liberals, the process will repeat
itself, over and over.
Not one among us able to figure out the only end result is our pocket
remain empty.
Michael Durant
We need to begin serious talks with Doctors Without Boarders
David Amos
Reply to @Michael durant: Try again That one went over like a lead balloon
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @Michael durant: borders
Yves Savoie
Get your popcorn ready!!! The circus has begun....
David Amos
Reply to @Yves Savoie: Wanna trade some of your popcorn for peanuts?
Methinks Trump and everybody knows I have been enjoying the circuses
on both sides of the 49th for many years from the peanut galley.
Trump's minions know that just before July 4th, 2002 within a
statement of Claim against an incredible number of Yankee lawyers I
promised that I would run in the next Election in Canada. I have
remained true to my word and have run 7 times thus far. I joined the
clowns in the centre ring no only to to add my two bits worth and but
to witness the high diving acts up close and personal. Trust that
Harper and Higgy et al know that i dearly love the splash just my kids
and I did at Sea World a long long time ago N'esy Pas?
Ben Haroldson
Reply to @David Amos: Kudos to that, and if you were in my riding you
would get my vote, fed or prov.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: That would give him 14 votes
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: " Methinks trumps and everybody knows I have
been enjoy.. .... ...... " !!! You really think trump knows who you
are ?? Seriously ???????????
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Do you want his lawyers cell number?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Better yet do you want me to give them yours so
you can say hey to your Yankee heroes who locked me up in 2004?
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Thanks for the vote of confidence
Ben Haroldson
The Doctors are just helping to move things along. No sense waffling
if things are that dire.
David Amos
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: So you say
Terry Tibbs
What do you *think*? Coincidence, or not?
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks we all know the wicked game by now N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BTW I was born in the Sackville Hospital in 1952
and it saved my butt 3 years later when I went into a coma for a
month. Methinks for that reason alone I should raise hell to defend
it. Methinks it should be rather obvious that I quite simply don't
care what my cousin Megan Mitton and all her Green Party pals say or
do about it N'esy Pas?
Holly Mossing
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Not coincidence: ERs and Labour and Delivery
units have been randomly closing for years due to staffing issues.
That’s part of the problem, and this move will be part of the
solution. Government being responsible by listening to the health
authorities.
SarahRose Werner
How is the pool of doctors who provide nighttime ER coverage supplied?
Are these doctors who also work day jobs? Does staffing the ER
overnight make doctors less accessible to patients who seek service
during the day?
Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Overnight Doctors come from the family
practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
night shift starts. After midnight, the ER is emergencies only, so you
will be triaged by a nurse, then depending on the triage, you may or
may not see a doctor.
This Friday, from how it seems, there will be no doctor at all; I'm
not sure if a tirage nurse will assess people however.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Apparently not, because the ER will be
closed entirely. Which makes sense because triage is a sorting
procedure, not a treatment procedure. The word "triage" comes from the
process of sorting battlefield patients into three levels: those will
recover even without treatment, those who will even if treated and
those for whom treatment will make a difference. If there's no one
available to provide treatment, there's no point doing triage.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: "Overnight Doctors come from the family
practice doctors; so while some work the ER during the day, those who
work nights will also work office hours during the day before their
night shift starts." - I'm not surprised that doctors who've already
worked during the day are averse to taking overnight shifts as well.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Why would they be "adverse"? If the "stories" told to us are true,
after supper the family practice doctor heads out to the ER for 7pm,
taking paperwork, or reading material, to catch up on.
Right around maybe 10, or 11pm they pull up a bed and have a snooze,
because there "might" be only 5 patients overnight, (this is "the
claim") maybe only one needing his/her attention, so the nurse can
wake him/her up as required. 7am the shift ends, doctor leaves fully
rested,12 hours pay richer.
In some cases, if the doctor lives real close, they go home, coming in
only if needed.
Holly Mossing
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yes, it does, which is part of the
problem. These are great shifts for doctors to pick up (quiet and pay
very well), but don’t help the health of local people overall because
the doc may see 5 urgent patients overnight but not be able to work at
see *25* the next day. That’s a big capacity issue.
David Amos
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Its a pity that nobody in Sackville would
listen to me this week
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: However I will disclose that the Office of the
CEO of one of our Health Care systems called me a few days before
Flemming's big announcement in order to reach an understanding as to
why I am going to file a lawsuitin order to get my Medicare Card and
other things. I have heard nothing but crickets since. Methinks they
think I am bluffing Others know I am not N'esy Pas?
Ian Scott
It would help if the management would outline what it takes to have an
ER open 24/7. I do not think a lot of the public has a clue as to what
it means to open an ER to all comers and the staff then needed to
cover all reasonable issues. You cannot confuse the public and
ambulances etc where to go each night if staffing gets short. It makes
it worse. If you staff with general practice then they must have
extended training in ER issues. Otherwise the next thing is the
complaint that things were not done . Then comes the standard
equipment needed for stroke trauma etc, like CT scanners etc. Even
appendectomy becomes an issue without ultrasound or CT. Its really a
standard of practice and it requires a service level that is very
difficult to reach in small centers. Otherwise you just end up
shipping people out again and delaying diagnostics and the right
treatment, some of which are time related. Would you want surgery for
something that is not needed? Or have blood thinners given when you
actually have a brain bleed etc.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: One thing I've been reading in comments on
stories on this issue is that people mention being "stabilized" in a
smaller centre before being shipped out to a larger one. Not being a
medical professional, I don't know what resources and skills are
required to "stabilize" patients. Is this something that could be
achieved in some other way, for example, by expanded and improved
paramedic service?
Ian Scott
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: That is the care in bigger centers, well
trained paramedics to stabilize at site and transport. Still most
stroke issues need CT before treatment. Heart issues may be
"stabilized" with drugs etc but transfer really is key for assessment
. Trauma , (major) , needs a trauma center. I am not sure how many
paramedics can intubate in the field at this point in NB but even an
acute asthma or allergic issue might need it. Its what has been
suggested. The numbers are small in many of these towns.Even having
those staff may prove difficult down the road. Helicopter Air
ambulance is another issue, complex and expensive but out there.
Freddy is a trauma center for a certain level , but even it only has a
snowfield for landing.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Okay, so if someone has a heart attack, acute
allergic attack, stroke, etc. in Sussex in the middle of the night and
that person needs some sort of immediate treatment to tide them over
until they get to the Saint John Regional, how is that provided? To
me, that's the crux of the issue here. I agree that 24/7 ER service in
all locations is not the answer. What are other possible answers?
Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: In that situation, the patient will be
sent on to Saint John/Moncton (not sure which hospital in regards to
Sussex) regardless if they are stable or not.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Are there increased to the patient if
they're sent on without stabilization? What are those? What will be
done to ameliorate those risks?
Holly Mossing
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: There is a great study on this that showed
that cardiac patients who were “stabilized” at a small center then
transferred had worse outcomes and a higher death rate than patients
who bypassed their local ER and were brought directly to where they
could receive specialized care, for example. (
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28615177/ ). Advanced care
paramedics need to be normalized in New Brunswick and supported to
make health care as safe as possible. I’ve never voted Conservative
but in this case Higgs’ government is doing absolutely the responsible
thing. We need to make sure they follow through with increased daytime
services.
David Amos
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Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you must have read some of my
comments N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Hmmmm
Donald Smith
There has to be a reason, or reasons why NB Cannot attract them ???????
Mack Leigh
Reply to @Donald Smith: There definitely is however no one is allowed
to talk about the " Elephant " in the room.
Ian Scott
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Major centers are not really having that issue
except for OR constraints for time for some specialists and no beds
because of acute care bed blockers. Bathurst has excellent docs as
does Edmonston and they are better at language issues than the south.
Freddy and SJ and the Moncton centers also attract excellent staff.
Its in between that is the issue , and medicine has changed , as have
expectations and the standard of care. An ER is just that , all
comers, not a clinic. One has to meet rigid standards of care. And
those are hard to meet in 4k population or less towns and villages.
Aging issues are one of the biggest issues and its being met poorly.
Billing numbers are a thing of the past so not in the question. There
could certainly be some concern I suppose of young docs worried about
potential language issues but low.
Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @Ian Scott: What people seem to forget is that Sackville,
while a population of 5000 including Mt. Allison students, also
services Dorchester, Memramcook, Port Elgin, Murry Corner as well as
we get patients from the Cape like Cocagne, Cap Pele, Shediac. We've
had people from Moncton and surrounding area come to our hospital in
increasing numbers over the past two years, even as far as Anagance,
AND we get people from NS as well like River Hebert and Amherst. It
isn't just NB, but NS we serve too.
So no, we don't have a 4K or less patient possibility, we have much
more than that.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Then maybe NS would like to contribute
some money to pay for overnight service at the ER.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Don't you believe for a moment they don't.
Show an out of province medicare card at a NB hospital and the eyes
light up like a one armed bandit hitting a jackpot.
David Amos
Reply to @Donald Smith: Everybody knows the reasons
David Amos
Reply to @Mack Leigh: I do
Brian Robertson
This is just the logical next step in the deterioration of healthcare
under the thumb of a government administered monopoly.
When you have no money and no Doctors and costs are still increasing
because all your workers are members of public service unions that can
hold the public hostage; what else can happen?
The viability of single payer healthcare is based on the metering of
services in order to control costs.
Public needs and individual abilities to pay simply do not factor into
the equation.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Brian Robertson:
Hold the phone, Just STOP, and *think* for a moment, you have been
misdirected just like you are supposed to be.
EVERY other province, or territory, has "evil" union belonging health
professionals, this is not a NB only "thing".
We are supposed to be short of 100, maybe 200, health professionals
needed per capita (a different number pops out whenever those in
charge are asked).
We know the pay and benefits in NB are "short" hence the shortage of
health professionals.
Yet the cost of healthcare is higher (per capita) than every other
province, or territory.
So, either EVERYONE in NB is constantly sick, or the extra cost is
somewhere else other than with the health professionals.
I respectfully *think* you should be looking elsewhere.
Brian Robertson
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
All Provincial healthcare systems are following the same pattern
decline; except possibly Quebec who enjoys a lucrative infusion of
Federal transfer payments annually. New Brunswick just seems to be
ahead of the curve in terms of declining services and wait times.
There is more than enough blame to go around for this spiral trip
around the drain. Yes, and that includes your healthcare
professionals.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks he knows you are correct Quebec is a
UNILINGUAL Province Hence its costs are less N'esy Pas?
John Pokiok
There you have it no Doctor wants to live in rural setting it's a hard
core fact.
Ian Scott
Reply to @John Pokiok: Thats not really true. Being an ER doc is a
different fish from a GP office setting. It requires an extension of
training.If you open an ER then you have every issue from Intubation
to trauma to poisoning, heart attack stroke, delivery etc. ER trained
docs are a separate entity . You are asking a GP to be everything and
have little backup and extended hours and then have a practice in the
community. It takes a serious block of staff to do this around the
clock. And to have surgical backups for obstetrics etc.And to then
live in communities with 4K people is not easy.
David Amos
Reply to @John Pokiok: Many do when they retire
Elaine MacDonald
Reply to @John Pokiok: And yet we just had *2* doctors from US
background move to Sackville to practice. It's not a matter of no
doctors wanting to move to rural areas.
David Amos
Reply to @Elaine MacDonald: Maybe they are willing to cover the midnight shift
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>> From: David Amos
motomaniac333@gmail.com>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> To:
coi@gnb.ca>> Cc:
david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>>
>> Good Day Sir
>>
>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>
>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>
>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>> suggested that you study closely.
>>
>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>
>>
http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T>>
>> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
>>
>> Dec 14th
https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug>>
>> January 11th, 2016
https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015>>
>> April 3rd, 2017
>>
>>
https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing>>
>>
>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>
>>
http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All>>
>>
>> The only hearing thus far
>>
>> May 24th, 2017
>>
>>
https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown>>
>>
>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>
>> Date: 20151223
>>
>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>
>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>
>> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>>
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>
>> Plaintiff
>>
>> and
>>
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>
>> Defendant
>>
>> ORDER
>>
>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>> December 14, 2015)
>>
>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>> in its entirety.
>>
>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
>> he stated:
>>
>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>
>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>> Police.
>>
>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>
>>
>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
>> is no order as to costs.
>>
>> “B. Richard Bell”
>> Judge
>>
>>
>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>
>> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>
>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>> most
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From:
justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>> dudes are way past too late
>> To:
david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>>
>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>>
lalanthier@hotmail.com>>
>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>>
tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca>>
>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>>
lalanthier@hotmail.com>>
>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>>
tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Merci ,
>>
>>
>>
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html>>
>>
>> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>
>> January 13, 2015
>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>
>> December 8, 2014
>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>
>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>
>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>
>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>> campaign of 2006.
>>
>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>
>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>
>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>
>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>
>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>
>> Subject:
>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"
MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca>> To:
motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com>>
>> January 30, 2007
>>
>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>
>> Mr. David Amos
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>
>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>
>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>> Minister of Health
>>
>> CM/cb
>>
>>
>> Warren McBeath
warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>> From: "Warren McBeath"
warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>> To:
kilgoursite@ca.inter.net,
MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>>
nada.sarkis@gnb.ca,
wally.stiles@gnb.ca,
dwatch@web.net,
>>
motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com>> CC:
ottawa@chuckstrahl.com,
riding@chuckstrahl.com,
John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>>
Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"
bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>> "Paul Dube"
PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>
>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>
>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>
>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>
>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>
>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>> Traffic Services NCO
>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>> E-mail
warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>>
>>
>>
>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>> fax: 506-444-5224
>>
e-mail:coi@gnb.ca>>
>
>
> On 8/3/17, David Amos <
motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
>> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>>
>>
http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz>> ilian.html
>>
>>>
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html>>>
>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>
>>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY>>>
>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>> cards?
>>>
>>>
http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly200>>> 6
>>>
>>>
http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html>>>
>>>
http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139>>>
>>>
http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143>>>
>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>> United States Senate
>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>
>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>> raised in the attached letter.
>>>
>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>> tapes.
>>>
>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>
>>> Very truly yours,
>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>> Email:
bbachrach@bowditch.com>>>
>>
>
>
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html>
>
> Sunday, 19 November 2017
> Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
> It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
> The Supreme Court
>
>
https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do>
>
> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>
> Amos v. Canada
> Court (s) Database
>
> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
> Date
>
> 2017-10-30
> Neutral citation
>
> 2017 FCA 213
> File numbers
>
> A-48-16
> Date: 20171030
>
> Docket: A-48-16
> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
> CORAM:
>
> WEBB J.A.
> NEAR J.A.
> GLEASON J.A.
>
>
> BETWEEN:
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> Respondent on the cross-appeal
> (and formally Appellant)
> and
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> Appellant on the cross-appeal
> (and formerly Respondent)
> Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
> Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
>
> THE COURT
>
>
>
> Date: 20171030
>
> Docket: A-48-16
> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
> CORAM:
>
> WEBB J.A.
> NEAR J.A.
> GLEASON J.A.
>
>
> BETWEEN:
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> Respondent on the cross-appeal
> (and formally Appellant)
> and
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> Appellant on the cross-appeal
> (and formerly Respondent)
> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
>
> I. Introduction
>
> [1] On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
> filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
> against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
> in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
> Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
> properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
> that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
> Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
> (Claim at para. 96).
>
> [2] On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
> motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
> Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
> amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
> disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
> and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
> Prothontary’s Order).
>
>
> [3] On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
> Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
> Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
> Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
> for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
> 2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
>
>
> [4] Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
> Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
> Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
> As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
> cross-appeal.
>
>
> II. Preliminary Matter
>
> [5] Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
> relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
> 6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
> the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
> This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
> had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
> Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
> several judges but did not name those judges.
>
> [6] Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
> identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
> had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
> with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
> Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
> the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
> subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
> c. F-7:
>
>
> 5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
> office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
> Appeal.
> […]
>
> 5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
> d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
> les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
> […]
> 5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
> that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.
>
> 5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
> Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
> juges de la Cour fédérale.
>
>
> [7] However, these subsections only provide that the
> judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
> versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
> Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
> section.
> [8] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide that:
> 3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
> — Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
> Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
> continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
> for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
> a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>
> 3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
> fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
> français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
> à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
> Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
> continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
> matière civile et pénale.
> 4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
> — Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
> English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
> additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
> the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
> court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>
> 4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
> première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
> Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
> maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
> d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
> canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
> compétence en matière civile et pénale.
>
>
> [9] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
> two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
> (section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
> Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
> need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
> Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
> to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
> file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
> decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
> that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
> appeal book.
>
>
> [10] Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
> March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
> Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
> conflict in any matter related to him.
>
>
> [11] On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
> before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
> conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
> Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
> Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
> Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
> Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
> cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
> Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
> will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
> before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
> relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.
>
>
> [12] During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
> the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
> submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
> conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
> afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
> that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
> view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
> documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
> documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
> judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
> copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
> such judge had a conflict.
>
>
> [13] The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
> that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
> 2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
> that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
> had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
> therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
> of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
> personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
> Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
> was a member of such firm.
>
>
> [14] During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
> appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
> focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
> Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
> the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
> particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
> lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
> after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
> Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
>
>
> [15] The documents that he submitted in relation to the
> alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
> Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
> Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
> practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
> Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
> who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
> affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
> that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
> letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
> Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
> Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
> “John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
> Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
> possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
> [16] Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
> was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
> Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
> 259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
> judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
> apprehension of bias:
> 60 In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
> criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
> Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
> Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
> reasonable apprehension of bias:
> … the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
> reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
> question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
> of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
> viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
> the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
> than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
> unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
>
> [17] The issue to be determined is whether an informed
> person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
> thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
> give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
> previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
> administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
> rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
> Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
> also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
> (4th) 193).
>
> [18] The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
> Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
> Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
> particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
> case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
> involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
> Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
> judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
> lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
> determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
> rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
> 27 Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
> finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
> which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
> as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
>
>
> 28 The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
> asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
> the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
> taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
> defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
> judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
> Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
> Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
> there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
> and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
>
>
> 29 It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
> inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
> different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
> judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
> of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
> conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
> involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
> in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
> for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
> interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
> statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
> information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
> opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
> His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
> had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
> unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.
>
>
> 30 That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
> of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
> disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
> two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
> recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
> that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
> that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
> time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
> To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
> the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
> involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
> the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
> circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
> or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
> 31 There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
> Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
> trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
> been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
> his former firm for a considerable period of time.
>
>
> 32 In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
> realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
> and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
> of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
> in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
> In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
> trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
> his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
> decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
> either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
> client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
> off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
> client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
> earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
> events from over a decade ago.
> (emphasis added)
>
> [19] Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
> involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
> Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
> clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
> alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
> Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
> Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
> Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
> had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
> was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
> involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
> with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
> sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
> Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
> also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
> Webb hearing this appeal.
>
> [20] Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
> (2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
> reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
> the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
> with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
>
> [21] In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
> F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
> reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
> lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
> was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
> Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
> Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.
>
> [22] Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
> stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
> of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
> He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
> entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
> and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
> to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
> police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
> enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
> conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
>
> [23] As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
> apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
> to recuse himself.
>
> [24] Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
> experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
> the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
> confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
> Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
>
> [25] Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
> Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
> that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
> a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
> both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
> Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
> begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
> you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
> was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
> Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
> for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
> not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
>
>
> III. Issue
>
> [26] The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
> Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
> in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
> Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
> legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
>
> IV. Analysis
>
> A. Standard of Review
>
> [27] Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
> Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
> be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
> made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
> Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
> 402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
> this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
> articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
> [Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
> Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
> prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
> case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
> the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
> error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
> law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
> a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
> if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
> determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
> (Hospira at paras. 82-83).
>
> [28] In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
> assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
> must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
> erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
> interfere.
>
>
> B. Did the Judge err in interfering with the
> Prothonotary’s Order?
>
> [29] The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
> paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
> Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
>
> 17. Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
> addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
> of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
> in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
> the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
> the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
> or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
> does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
> (…)
>
>
> 21. The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
> provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
> the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
> Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
> determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
> A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
> only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
> best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
> suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
> [footnotes omitted].
>
>
> [30] The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
> on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
> that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
> liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
> who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
> included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
> the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
> paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
> identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
> Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
> para. 27).
>
>
> [31] The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
> cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
> identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
> 2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
>
>
> [13] As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
> 69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
> determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
> element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
>
> a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
> conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
>
> b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
> conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and
>
> c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
> officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
> public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
> Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
> (Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
>
> [32] The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
> material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
> public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
> Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
> “political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
>
> [33] This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
> in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
> D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
>
> …When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
> assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
> negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
> “The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
> upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
> conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
> of process…
>
> To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
> requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
> out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
> officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
> office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
> mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
> allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
> a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
> (at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
>
> [34] Applying the Housen standard of review to the
> Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
> absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
>
> [35] The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
> disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
> basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
> ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
> the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
> engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
> conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
> faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
> the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
> these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
> non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
> Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
> the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
> barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
> supporting a cause of action.
>
> [36] In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
> allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
> reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
> Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
> Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
> find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
> The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
> amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
>
> V. Conclusion
> [37] For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
> cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
> dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
> November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
> without leave to amend.
> "Wyman W. Webb"
> J.A.
> "David G. Near"
> J.A.
> "Mary J.L. Gleason"
> J.A.
>
>
>
> FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
> NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
>
> A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
> JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
> DOCKET:
>
> A-48-16
>
>
>
> STYLE OF CAUSE:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
>
>
> PLACE OF HEARING:
>
> Fredericton,
> New Brunswick
>
> DATE OF HEARING:
>
> May 24, 2017
>
> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
>
> WEBB J.A.
> NEAR J.A.
> GLEASON J.A.
>
> DATED:
>
> October 30, 2017
>
> APPEARANCES:
> David Raymond Amos
>
>
> For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
> (on his own behalf)
>
> Jan Jensen
>
>
> For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>
> SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
> Nathalie G. Drouin
> Deputy Attorney General of Canada
>
> For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>
John Hamm a man of great integrity resigned as a Premier of Nova Scotia. We have unscrupulous Bernard Lord who is still Premier. There is something wrong with us NBers to tolerate this man as our Premier
Here is the real reason Hamm quit it is at the very bottom of this particular blog. This email is also why the dudes in Fredericton are so nervous these days. Simply put I'm back. I can only wonder how long this Blog will remain before Chucky Leblanc deletes it in order to cover up the public corruption he secretly supports.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:19 AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: This is who I am Bobby Baby. Read it and weep.
I had to respond to this. Brian Gaudet should have read my last email before bouncing it back to me with his insults. I was already gone. At least this Frenchman, sounds more like a proper Maritimer. Yet if he was going to spout off to me he should have been man enough to say it front of the rest of you too. Let us all see if he has truly Billy Gates blocking me after trying to pick a fight with me. Yahoo will tell the tale on that. That said, I do admire that he defends his wife's name and is willing to fight about it even if he does not understand the issues. That is honourable but dumb. I was confused that the email address said two mech so I suspect that he may be a mechanic just like me and not any sort of lawyer or newsman either. I like that as well.
It seems he has been raised on the four F's just like me. Only thing is I ain't hiding behind an electronic mask like he said. If he had bothered to read I had even inserted my phone number. I will be coming to Sackville very soon but by then your protests will likely be over and I would be met with the indifference that I was faced with last year. So I will bother you all no more even though I will be forwarding and blogging this email in many other places. It is the same methods that the locked out people employed to bring CBC to the table. they have no right to put down my actions against them. I do not wish to speak to the CBC or the employees about a lawsuit I am filing against the Crown because of their actions against me. That would be kinda dumb even for a Maritimer don't you think? I would rather have spoken to pissed off people CBC had locked out of work. It made far more sense to me.
I have many friends in the Sackville area. Perhaps Frenchy should ask around about me to some mechanics he may know to see if most folks who know me well think me to be a liar. He should not rely on CBC to find out the truth about me. To offset any confrontations from people he did not know, Frenchy should have told his wife not to use his email address. If he did not want to be bothered by people she and her other CBC buddies had ignored last year during the last federal election he should have told me out of the gate that he was not his wife. She could have gotten her own hotmail account like my eleven year old in Amherst just did. Instead she used her husband's email to tell the world on the internet that she was actively protesting being out of work? She was soliticiting our support for her plight but in the next electronic breath her husband proves that they care about nobody else? CBC and all of its reporters are the bullshitters in this matter not me. They are self centered greedy bastards also.
CBC does have a mandate to give all people running for a seat in Parliament equal time not just the people the reporters want to win. That is the law and their mandate as a Crown Corp. In case you are reading this Brian Gaudet talk tough all you wish. I don't scare easy because I am too dumb to know fear. Ask the Secret Service who tried to take me away to Cuba over two years ago or the jailers who threw me in the hole last year because I was pretty pissed off if I am a chickenshit or not. Because I display no fear people label me as crazy in order to make themselves feel better about their own cowardice. I have walked the walk for far too long to be frightened by anyone now. I live each day as my last. Only integrity surprises me now. It is a rare thing to find combined with age and power.
If you don't believe me or think I am harrassing you in any way why not call the RCMP or sue me French?. Bring along this email to prove how I have offended you. I will love to argue the Crown about it in court. I will bring along what I served upon the CBC in Saint John while I was running for Parliament last year. It should make for an interesting argument that CBC will not report. Their lawyers have not answered me yet but many others have and know tha CBC got my material too. It appears that i must sue to get an answer as to why the CBC ignored its mandate.
Frenchy I would prefer to meet your lawyer face to face in court in a civil lawsuit rather than duke it out on the street with you and inspire another criminal matter. Besides I have too much to lose even if I won such a senseless thing in court or in the street. You are another ordinary asshole like me. There is no need to battle with you. I am getting too old for such nonsense now but I will certainly defend myself from anyone. If you wish to pursue the matter be forewarned that I don't fight fair anymore. If perchance I lose I am very big on getting even. My battles are never over until that happens. What I teach my son also holds true for me. I tell him to never back down from anyone because it is too expensivee to one's own pride and you will have to run from bullies your whole life. In truth a brawl proves nothing at all except how dumb we can be. Nevertheless like hockey fighting can be a great sport sometimes. Confused? Me too. what do you teach your son Frenchy?
Like you Frenchy I prefer face to face confrontations but only in front of many witnesses these days so that nobody can accuse me of saying or doing anything wrong. If you wish to fight, call the cops first and announce your intentions then all that I ask of you is that you throw the first swing so that my actions will be in defence. Is that OK with you Frenchy??????
You are right about one thing though. Nobody cares. However it is not stupid of me to piss people off. It is merely one of those things I do that nobody seems to appreciate. It works like a charm to get others to prove to me that they are assholes. The big difference between an asshole like me and an asshole like you is that I care about what happens to others. You don't. If you disagree why not help another Maritimer by the name of Byron Prior. He needs all the help he can get. I don't. You don't even have to Google him. Read the portion of his his web site that was at the bottom of the second email I sent to you today. If you have any heart in you at all pick up the phone and call him to see if he is for real for yourself. I did the best I could to help him with his litigation against Billy Matthews and all his Newfy buddies while your wife's buddy Ian Hannamansing who is from Sackville only called Byron a liar while he was doing his big special in Newfoundland about justice last year.
If my memory of what Byron said about the show that night is correct, your wife's fellow CBC workers carefully edited Byron from any of their tapes shown on TV while the Attorney General Tommy Marshall's son sat right by his side and made it on TV. In my opinion the CBC dudes in Newfoundland should all be fired ASAP for that reason alone. That fact has nothing to do with me and my concerns whatsoever. All Canadians were denied the opportunity to hear what Byron Prior had to say about how justice is being served in the Maritimes. It should make no difference at all whether or not Hannamansing thought of Byron a lair. We all had the right to hear what he had to say after CBC had invited the public they work for to speak on TV. How else can we decide the truth about anything if we do not hear from all sides? This is a Democracy isn't it is free speech a myth on public TV? CBC does not have the right to to be judge and jury simply because they have the ability to edit tapes.
Get it Frenchy???????????
Here is my phone number again Frenchy 506 434 1379 if you wish to ask me any questions. I will not bother to look up yours. I do not care about you think anymore if you don't wish to speak man to man. I will do as you requested and merely leave you all alone just like I said in the last email I ever intended to send to any of the CBC crowd. Now that they are comfortably back at work editing the truth for Paul Martin's benefit not ours, I know it would be fruitless to approach them anymore.
Before you give me a call Frenchy, perhaps you should review email that you bounced back to me. For your education here is my face as well and an article about me in a local paper then ask yourself why the CBC reporters ignored an interesting little circus.
I ain't hiding and I ain't a lair. I am just another Maritime asshole just like you Frenchy. You should understand me as being a simple, sincere and serious asshole even if you do not believe that I am a man with some pretty serious beefs against the corrupt justice system and the CBC that helps it in its malice towards us all. It is late and my rambling rant is over. As I wrote this I kept remmbering my encounters with the Frenchy from the far side of my hometown of Dorchester last year. His name is Charles LeBlanc. Man that bastard is full of hot air. I had to get this off my chest. I will sleep better with you dismissed from my mind too. Good luck with your own conscience from now on. Say Hey to Chucky Leblanc for me will ya> Like you he is blocking my emails after sending me a flood of them last year. I will lay odds your wife knows of him. The Maritimes ain't that big a place and he is quite a bragger.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "McKnight, Gisele" McKnight.Gisele@kingscorecord.com
> > > > To: lcampenella@ledger.com
> > > > Cc:motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:53 PM
> > > > Subject: David Amos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Lisa,
> > > > > David Amos asked me to contact you. I met him last June after he
> > became
> > > an
> > > > > independent (not representing any political party) candidate in our
> > > > federal
> > > > > election that was held June 28.
> > > > >
> > > > > He was a candidate in our constituency of Fundy (now called
> > > Fundy-Royal).
> > > > I
> > > > > wrote a profile story about him, as I did all other candidates. That
> > > story
> > > > > appeared in the Kings County Record June 22. A second story, written
> > by
> > > > one
> > > > > of my reporters, appeared on the same date, which was a report on
> the
> > > > > candidates' debate held June 18.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I recall David Amos came last of four candidates in the election.
> > The
> > > > > winner got 14,997 votes, while Amos got 358.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have attached the two stories that appeared, as well as a photo
> > taken
> > > by
> > > > > reporter Erin Hatfield during the debate. I couldn't find the photo
> > that
> > > > > ran, but this one is very similar.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gisele McKnight
> > > > > editor A1-debate A1-amos,David for MP 24.doc debate
2.JPG
> > > > > Kings County Record
> > > > > Sussex, New Brunswick
> > > > > Canada
> > > > > 506-433-1070
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
By Erin Hatfield
"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if unofficial, theme song for the debate.
The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn. Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty, mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.
The debate was moderated by Leo Melanson of CJCW Radio and was organized by the Sussex Valley Jaycees. Candidates wereasked a barrage of questions bypanelists Gisele McKnight of the Kings County Record and Lisa Spencer of CJCW.
Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices. Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each other on their answers and criticizing eachothers’ party leaders. Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of comic relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in response to the question of thenational gun registry. "Nobody's getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."
Herron, a Progressive Conservative MP turned Liberal, veered from his party'splatform with regard to gun control. "It was ill advised but well intentioned," Herron said. "No matter what side of the house I am on, I'm voting against it." Pat Hanratty agreed there were better places for the gun registry dollars to be spent.Recreational hunters shouldn't have been penalized by this gun registry," he said.
The gun registry issues provoked the tempers of Herron and Moore. At one point Herron got out of his seat and threw a piece of paper in front of Moore. "Read that," Herron said to Moore, referring to the voting record of Conservative Party leader Steven Harper. According to Herron, Harper voted in favour of the registry on the first and second readings of the bill in 1995. "He voted against it when it counted, at final count," Moore said. "We needa government with courage to register sex offenders rather than register the property of law abiding citizens."
The crowd was vocal throughout the evening, with white haired men and women heckling from the Conservative side. "Shut up John," one woman yelled. "How can you talk about selling out?" a man yelled whenHerron spoke about his fear that the Conservatives are selling farmers out.
Although the Liberal side was less vocal, Kings East MLA Leroy Armstrong weighed in at one point. "You’re out of touch," Armstrong yelled to Moore from the crowd when the debate turned to the cost of post-secondary education. Later in the evening Amos challenged Armstrong to a public debate of their own. "Talk is cheap. Any time, anyplace," Armstrong responded.
As the crowd made its way out of the building following the debate, candidates worked the room. They shook hands with well-wishers and fielded questions from spectators-all part of the decision-making process for the June 28 vote.
Cutline – David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his favourite possessions—motorcycles.
McKnight/KCR
The Unconventional Candidate
David Amos Isn’t Campaigning For Your Vote, But….
By Gisele McKnight
FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.
The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada.
One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail to meet Elections Canada requirements.
When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his favourite place to do so—Fundy.
Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians.
"I’ve become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
The journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in 1987. He woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he needed to change his life.
"I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that sometimes in midlife."
So Amos, who’d lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952 Panhead motorcycle.
"Annie and I rode around for awhile (three years, to be exact) experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said. "This is how you renew your faith in mankind – you help anyone you can, you never ask for anything, but you take what they offer."
For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs and conversation all over North America.
Since he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son and a daughter and become a house-husband – Mr. Mom, as he calls himself.
He also describes himself in far more colourful terms—a motorcyclist rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a proud Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."
Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.
"But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said. "It’s alright to bitch in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"
Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
"I didn’t appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can call me. I’m not going to drive my opinions down their throats."
And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.
"I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."
What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me, especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right. Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."
Although…if you’re going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have your X by his name.
"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and say, ‘what the hell.’"
Brian Gaudet twomech@nb.sympatico.ca wrote:
From: "Brian Gaudet" twomech@nb.sympatico.ca
To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: This is who I am Bobby Baby. Read it and weep.
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:41:47 -0300
Listen, asshole.......This is not Suzanne's email it is her husband. I certainly don't care for the remarks that you are making about her. Having said that, I asked you once politely to remove us from your list. I will have blocked you by now, so I will not have to put up with your e-mails or bullshit any longer...................But I am not one for emails anyway.........I prefer to talk face to face............So you can't hide behind this electronic mask.............Do You get it???????????? I would not hide from a pathetic waste of oxygen such as you antway. People just don't care............Understand............No body cares about you and your stupidity..................Go AWAY...........
----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: bsharpe@nl.rogers.com ; davidamos@bsn1.net ; duffy@ctv.ca ; martine.turcotte@bell.ca ; news@ctv.ca ; am@ctv.ca ; diane.bourque@flsc.ca ; jcrosbie@pattersonpalmer.ca ; gbyrne@pattersonpalmer.ca ; corp.website@sunlife.com ; cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; shickman@pattersonpalmer.ca ; lrikleen@Bowditch.com ; John.Conyers@mail.house.gov ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ; bmosher@mosherchedore.ca ; carterweb@emory.edu ; Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ; parkhill@stu.ca ; plee@stu.ca ; billestabrooks@navnet.net ; kentlib@nbnet.nb.ca ; police@fredericton.ca ; wickedwanda3@adelphia.net ; marno3@shaw.ca ; cmgstjohns@nf.aibn.net
Cc: guild@interlog.com ; ombudsman@cbc.ca ; lise@cmg.ca ; pacificpalate@telus.net ; ajehman@hotmail.com ; maureen_matthews@cbc.ca ; gerry@cmg.ca ; bvessey@pei.eastlink.ca ; sallypitt@hotmail.com ; garyparsons@nfld.net ; neilmac@vzw.blackberry.net ; deesdee@yahoo.com ; shawk_1999@yahoo.com ; cari_blanchard@yahoo.com ; cturner@nbnet.nb.ca ; briann@accesswave.ca ; mplaurin@sympatico.ca ; lebelb@nbnet.nb.ca ; slmsmbouchard@hotmail.com ; maurice10@rogers.com ; m.meldrum@ns.sympatico.ca ; twomech@nb.sympatico.ca ; dugasp28@hotmail.com ; embateman@hotmail.com ; sawebb@hotmail.com ; pgcastle@hotmail.com ; newschick@hotmail.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: This is who I am Bobby Baby. Read it and weep.
Hey
To put it simply in answer to your dumb request Mr. Sharpe. My answer is HELL NO. That is a nice as I can put it. I just called Katie Nicholson and introduced myself. I will it leave you to wonder whom I will call next. Your clue is that you sent them greetings as a Locked-Out brother in sunny St. Johns.
To elaborate, I must say that I definitely will not go away. Look how you people act since you have been locked out of your jobs. You behave far worse tha I. In fact I may be coming to Newfoundland very soon to copy the material in the dockets of Newfoundland Supreme Court in the Billy Matthews versus Byron Prior matter as it pertains to me me. I need hard copy before I sue the CBC and the Crown. My question right now is hey Bobby Baby why don't I sue you too? Maybe I will come around and watch your people do their song and dance for their job. Perhaps you should try meeting me toe to toe and looking me in the eye if you want to meet a simple sincere and very serious man and then dare me to. I will be real easy to pick out. I am the hairy bastard in the Kilt once worn by a good friend of mine Ol Tom. He is one of the last of the Ladies from Hell. I wear it with his blessings. too many of his friends fought and died many years ago so that shit like this should not happen in our own nativeland. Even the Yankee bastard I call Deputy dog has met Ol Tom long before I dated the Yankee's sister. You bear the same first name as Deputy Dog Bobby Baby and you just forwarded all them your dumb little email that jerked this mangey old dog's chain bigtime. Need I say that my wife did not like receiving your response? She has warned me not to send out her email address anymore. Like her I do not listen real good sometimes but I did accomadate her on her birthday at least.
Bobby Baby if you want someone's shoulder to cry on give the lady Liza Frulla a call. She is a former sister of yours correct? I think she may have some job security issues when there is finally a federal election called. The sooner the better for me and the NDP. Frulla did not answer me so I must remain a man of my word and pass this email on as I promised her I would. Quite honestly I did not expect her to answer me. Everybody knows that she does whatever Paul Martin and the warroom dudes within PCO/PMO offices tell her to do. I needed the proof of contact thats all because I was banking on the fact the warroom will tell her to ignore me. I was just playing her like a fiddlewhile fishing for response from yo sos like you and hopefully an ehtical person or two. Paul Dugas who likes to play the fiddle in the town where I was born should certainly get my joke. On the one year anniversary of Ashcroft visiting Canada and Wayne Easter's office talking to me, he joined a forum to yap about violins. I found the coincidence strangely comical. If Paul Dugas or anyone within the CBC had elected to report my doings on that day instead of talking about fiddlin etc, we would all be better off right now. The CBC recived received my material July 16th 2002, the very same day Argeo P. Cellucci did. That was long before the War on Iraq had started. Have your conscience dwell on that sad fact for a minute or two before you answer a lot of ghosts in your Heaven or Hell someday. As you can see I study people a bit and I already have a pretty good idea who will be naughty and who may be nice. I learned long ago cops, lawyers, bankers, priests and newsmen never are. So I attack them out of the gate but only in an ethical fashion byway of the written word and carefully worded phone calls. Newsmen should know that the word is mightier than the sword. You make your living by it you should die by it as well. Please fall on it ASAP or use it to hang the rest of the corrupt bastards. How is that for a challenge?
Furthermore I like to do everything in threes just like they purportly do in Heaven and Hell. Now that Suzanne Gaudet, Paul Dugas from the town where I was born and you the Newfy Bobby Baby have responded to me you have sealed the fate of the Crown Corp of CBC for me. I need no more responses from the likes of you. Why spoil my own fun? I will likely not tell you anymore about what I am up to after I send the next email and print both of them as evidence to use in Federal Court. I will sue the Minister who oversees your conduct and none of you can ever say that you did not know the truth of my concerns before I did. The CRTC can go to Hell for all I care. Starting with their crooked little Minister many of the public servants under her supervision need to be replaced if the public trust in your profession is ever going to be upheld.
Even though the unethical people at CBC, CTV and all other media pretend to have no understanding of what I mean, a lot of Maritimers understand me quite well already. Blogging is truly the only way to go these days. Watch out. Ordinary folks will replace you in a New York minute. Why else has CBC locked you out I might ask? It appears to me that only the Frenchmen has job security EH? Why do you think that is? Better yet look how quick Bloggers embarrassed Dan Rather before you call me a dreamer. That said look to find the text of this email in many Blogs in the near future and you can study the work of a very fierce political animal. All you should have to do is Google your own name or email address. Turn about is fair play. EH? If you don't like please sue me just like Billy Matthews did with Byron Prior. Google that name some time then tell me all is well in Newfoundland.
It is my fellow Maritimers that I want pissed off at the CBC etc. and all the corrupt politicians they have chosen to support. I do not give two hoots about you as a man Bobby Baby. To me you are just a dumb little pawn in a big big game. I am taking on the Masters of War alone despite the laughter from the likes of you. IF you want some insight in to my character have Rudyard Kipling explain my nature to you within his wonderful poem called IF. I take his advice not your. thus you have the reason behind my simple answer of NO. What I would prefer though Newfy is for you to call me a liar in a public forum. I dare ya. You do not seem all that sharp to me so I will warn you I was raised to the F's of the Maritimes that your former Premier explained to the Yankees years ago. I found it funny the chickenshit named only three. So much for being politically correct EH? He came close but no cigar. Castro will get my joke someday soon. Here is me phone number 506 434-1379. Use it Newfy if you dare to use a phone with a caller ID. Otherwise do not bother at all. just find me in the Blogs.
On a personal note Bill, I liked your voicemail to me. You and I should have a long talk sometime. I think it would be best to do in public in front of many witnesses who have no idea what we are talking about. I am up against some pretty bad acting Feds right now. I am sorry to say that I cannot afford to trust anyone. A very busy Bar or Diner where ordinary folk like me hang out are my favorite haunts. I know of a few down your way. Maybe I will give ya call when I am heading to your town. Better yet for the benefit of your party why not come see me ASAP? I ain't hard to find ask the RCMP. They have been watching me like a hawk.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 06:00:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: ROBERT SHARPE bsharpe@nl.rogers.com
Subject: Re: Moma and Max and Happy Birthday Cards
To: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com,
davidamos@bsn1.net, duffy@ctv.ca, martine.turcotte@bell.ca, news@ctv.ca,
am@ctv.ca, diane.bourque@flsc.ca, jcrosbie@pattersonpalmer.ca,
gbyrne@pattersonpalmer.ca, corp.website@sunlife.com,
cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca, shickman@pattersonpalmer.ca,
lrikleen@Bowditch.com, John.Conyers@mail.house.gov, smay@pattersonpalmer.ca,
bmosher@mosherchedore.ca, carterweb@emory.edu, Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us,
Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us, parkhill@stu.ca, plee@stu.ca,
kentlib@nbnet.nb.ca, police@fredericton.ca, wickedwanda3@adelphia.net
CC: guild@interlog.com, ombudsman@cbc.ca, lise@cmg.ca,
pacificpalate@telus.net, ajehman@hotmail.com, maureen_matthews@cbc.ca,
gerry@cmg.ca, bvessey@pei.eastlink.ca, sallypitt@hotmail.com,
garyparsons@nfld.net, neilmac@vzw.blackberry.net, deesdee@yahoo.com,
shawk_1999@yahoo.com, cari_blanchard@yahoo.com, cturner@nbnet.nb.ca,
briann@accesswave.ca, mplaurin@sympatico.ca, lebelb@nbnet.nb.ca,
slmsmbouchard@hotmail.com, maurice10@rogers.com, m.meldrum@ns.sympatico.ca,
twomech@nb.sympatico.ca, dugasp28@hotmail.com, embateman@hotmail.com,
sawebb@hotmail.com, pgcastle@hotmail.com, bsharpe@nl.rogers.com,
newschick@hotmail.com
Who are you to have me on your list? Go away.
--- David Amos wrote:
>
> Yo Mama
>
> In lieu of a Birthday card or gift this year
> I figured sending you our Joy Boy Max will have to
> do to cheer you up and then later this email may
> give you some more joy at the thought that it may
> give Deputy Dog a serious stroke or a minor hat
> attack at the very least. I have been waiting awhile
> to repond to the bastard's blog for your benefit as
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:49:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: RE Communications in the Public Interest
To: liza_frulla@pch.gc.ca, Frulla.L@parl.gc.ca
CC: betty.macphee@crtc.gc.ca, ocrdct@hotmail.com, davidamos@bsn1.net
From: "Paul Dugas" dugasp28@hotmail.com
To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Moma and Max and Happy Birthday Cards
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:36:14 -0300
Please remove me from your email list thank you
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 22:51:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: So much for ethical reporters the town I was born in EH?
To: dugasp28@hotmail.com, m.meldrum@ns.sympatico.ca, maurice10@rogers.com
Suzanne Gaudet is just like Bill Hamilton, She plays the see no evil, hear no evil speak no evil game. While Maurice Doiron, Murray Meldrum and Paul Duhas just opt to play dumb. What must Liza Frulla think of all this. From my point of view you do nothing so why not replace you with nothing at at. It is cheaper for the Taxpayer to keep piping in the BBC. Bullshit is Bullshit no matter what the accent.
twomech@nb.sympatico.ca wrote:
From: twomech@nb.sympatico.ca
To: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Hey Duffy I know why Dr. Hamm quit and why dog MacKay don't hunt in Nova Scotia
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:00:42 -0400
Please remove me from your mailing list. Thank you.
>
> From: David Amos
> Date: 2005/09/30 Fri AM 08:40:44 EST
> To: duffy@ctv.ca, martine.turcotte@bell.ca, news@ctv.ca, am@ctv.ca,
> diane.bourque@flsc.ca, jcrosbie@pattersonpalmer.ca,
> gbyrne@pattersonpalmer.ca, corp.website@sunlife.com,
> cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca, shickman@pattersonpalmer.ca,
> lrikleen@Bowditch.com, John.Conyers@mail.house.gov, smay@pattersonpalmer.ca,
> bmosher@mosherchedore.ca, carterweb@emory.edu, Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us,
Hey Lady Liza Frulla
I got the following response from the email I just sent to one of your underlings Ms. Macphee so I called the number she suggested and got the usual governmental voicemail from her help so I left a message. I got a call back just now from her assistant at 819 997-0313. I told her that I would send this email to you and she affirmed my right to do so. However when she attempted to lay down the law to me, I told her I would see her in court. I prefer to argue their lawyers in court rather than spit and chew with civil servants on the phone on my dime. More importantly to me is that I responded to you her Minister byway of email because I require hard copy for evidence to use during the pending arguments of the complaint against the Crown that I do intend to file in Federal Court in Fredericton New Brunswick soon. I am sending you two more emails after this one because my lawyer advised awhile ago to try hard to make my matters well none to the media. From this point forward as the Minister who oversees the CRTC who can never saw that you did not know what many other have known for quite sometime. For what is worth in my humble opinion if you play your political cards right you could be our first Lady Prime Minister.
I will give you Ms. Frulla the weekend to respond to me before I send this particular email to many others but many others will be receiving what Ms. Macphee aready got. I do not care what her assistant Ms Gable may think. She can gab to somebody else about what she wishes to inform me of. I have done my homework and need no advice from the likes of her. What Ms. Gable may not understand about me is that unlike Paul Martin I am a man of my word. I am just like him in one regard. I am also a very fierce political animal who is is equal and opposite in all things that define men. Martin is evil. I am not. Martin is a very wealthy lawyer. I am a just poor layman. Martin is labeled as Honourable and I am called as crazy as a loon. However I am a man Martin is not. He is a snake. I am indeed a very Proud Canadian who is definitely not proud of the people who speak for me. Get it Ms. Frulla?
As Minister Responsible for Status of Women, you really should make certain that the integrity of all women in government does not come into question. From my point of view some women such as the Yankee Judges, Sidney Hanlon, Paula Carey and Cristina Harms for example do much harm to the reputation of your gender. What they have done to my little family in the USA in order to support the rampant public corruption in Canada and the USA should offend anyone with half a mind at all. My wife is a woman too after all. She has never done any wrong at all. Her only offence to the justice system was to stand against the politcally connected family members who had stolen her interests because no lawyer would dare speak for her. When she had her breakdown I took up the fight as any proud husband and father should. It is not only my right but my duty to protect my little Clan. The biggest difference in our genders is that men are not so quick to cry or back down from any bully. My wife is a very tender soul while I can be as mean as a the snake Paul Martin is.
The New World of the Internet has afforded me quite a weapon to do battle with against the likes of Paul Martin and all his crooked cohorts. There is still a place in this Old World for a fierce ethical warrior such as I. Otherwise crooked men and women who are merely low people in high places to me will walk all over us common ordinary folk. I am no physical threat to anyone. I do battle with the word not the sword. It is mightier. Anyone who once worked for CBC should understand that simple fact.
Furthermore this email is definitely not Spam. I am greatly offended when the powers that be label it as such and block it to protect their own greedy interests. Whether you or anyone else believe me or not, my communications are in the best interest of the public. I feel confident that it is much to the chagrin of the people who have failed the public trust in their elected and politically appointed positions. I suspect that is why Nancy Gabler sounded so pissed off just like the tone of Hélène Lapointe's email to me . Rest assured many Canadians will be reading this email after I sent it to you. It is me on the phone to your office right now after that I am putting a bunch of material in the mail and serving many lawyers in hand. My phone call is an ethical effort to introduce myself in order to prove to you that I am sincere.
I know what I have sent to many Members of Parliament during the course of the past two years and I keep very good record to prove simple truths. For certain you just made my list of people who may be naughty or nice. After Xmas Martin must see that Gomery tells his tale and the Canadian people will decide once again who they think is naughty and nice. As as the freedom loving individual that I am I will decide long before then in the hope that my opinions become well known before an election is called. Whereas the people cannot depend on the CBC etc. to report all things of public interest, I will rely on the Blog.
I have no doubt whatsoever that your buddies within the CBC reported heavily your run for a seat in Parliament last year. As one of our newest Ministers besides Belinda Stronach ask them for your own education why the CBC failed in their mandate to report my bid for a seat as well. Better yet if you want to have fun take it out with the nasty dudes inside the warroom of the PCO/PMO offices. I will wager my name is the biggest curse word in Parliament right now. I am certain that is why it is not said over the airwaves or put in print. From now on at least you can never say that you did not know my name too.
I am begging ya, please do not be like two other women who once worked for the CBC Adrienne Clarkson and Michaelle Jean. Nobody is that dumb. They must have deliberatly ignored my laments because Paul Martin directed them to. May I suggest that you read this entire email from the point of view of an ethical Minister in charge of the public interest of the Canadian people? Please do the right thing despite what the leader of your party may wish. If not as you talk the talk on TV etc in the coming months about the doings of CBC and Parliament etc I will walk the walk and complain of many politicans in court. History has proven that in the end the truth usually wins out even if it is ignored in court in the present tense.
By the way guess who is campaigning hard for a fall election? To have an election on Boxing Day is righteously fine by me. I ain't religious. Ask the Holy See or George W. Bush why. I dare ya.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
Excerpt from CTV.ca, Canada on Sep 27, 2005 of news by the Canadian Press
"CBC employees in Quebec and Moncton, N.B., are not affected by the lockout.
Information pickets set up early in the day under pouring rain didn't try to stop Prime Minister Paul Martin or Adrienne Clarkson, the Governor General, as they headed in for a morning news conference on Parliament Hill.
Clarkson, who will be replaced Tuesday by Michaelle Jean, governor-general designate, leaned out of her car to speak with CBC pickets.
At the rally, locked-out workers presented petitions signed by thousands of CBC fans calling for an end to the labour dispute.
Heritage Minister Liza Frulla acknowledged the anger of the Canadian public, telling the rally that cabinet ministers have been hearing demands that something be done to get the network back in business.
"All summer, we had messages from the population out there, messages from all through Canada, saying how they miss you," she told the rally. "
I just had to insert the campaign manager for Oscar Doucet for Leader Hélène Lapointe's answer in comical font. It is too funny to do other wise. How is is that dor the local NDP trying hard to play dumb?
"Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:28:40 -0300
Subject: Re: Free Thinkers please feel free to blog this.
From: Hélène Lapointe helenel@nb.sympatico.ca
To: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
I DON'T WANT TO RECEIVE YOUR E-MAIL ANYMORE. PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR
MAILING LIST!!!
Le vendredi, 30 sep 2005, à 10:30 Canada/Atlantic, David Amos a écrit :
> The CBC and all others in the media and governemnt will not relay
> this crap to the people. Perhaps we the people should all ask the
> politicians who were elected to speak for us why I have been compelled
> to sue the Queen and the Holy See along with the USA.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: duffy@ctv.ca ; martine.turcotte@bell.ca ; news@ctv.ca ; am@ctv.ca"
"Macphee, Betty" betty.macphee@crtc.gc.ca wrote:
Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Free Thinkers please feel free to blog this.
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:30:51 -0400
From: "Macphee, Betty" betty.macphee@crtc.gc.ca
To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
I will be away from the office until Friday, September 30th. If you have any urgency, please send your email to Nancy Gabler or contact her at 997-4319.
Je serai absente du bureau justqu'au vendredi le 30 septembre. Si vous avez des urgences, svp envoyer votre courriel à Nancy Gabler où téléphoner à 997-4319.
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 06:30:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Free Thinkers please feel free to blog this.
To: sahara@free-thinkersclub.com, publiceye@cbs.com, Leblanc.D@parl.gc.ca,
Murphy.S@parl.gc.ca, dmitchell@irvingmitchell.com,
contact@citizenscentre.com, cbc@crimlaw.ca,
belanger.jean-daniel@psio-bifp.gc.ca, pgriffin@lsrsg.com,
jlaskin@torys.com, wbrock@dwpv.com, carley@lutz.nb.ca,
registerodonnell@norfolkdeeds.org, info@mwpc.org, Lliss@rubinrudman.com,
regbert@egbertlaw.com, has@harveysilverglate.com, lawald@web.apc.org,
ahamilton@casselsbrock.com, brad.green@gnb.ca,
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jfoster@globaltv.ca, atvnews@ctv.ca, cmorris@cp.org, info@ccna.ca,
kbissett@broadcastnews.ca, bdnmail@bangordailynews.net,
ehutton@atlanticbusinessmagazine.com, argosy@mta.ca,
sylvain.martel@csn.qc.ca, events@cpac.ca, mmacdonald@cp.org,
crgeditor@yahoo.com, jeff.mockler@gnb.ca
CC: rmoir@unbsj.ca, suzanne.ball@nbsc-cvmnb.ca, manon.losier@nbsc-cvmnb.ca,
ottawacomments@state.gov, Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca, Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca,
elizabeth.weir@gnb.ca, ndpnpd@nbnet.nb.ca, mail@allisonbrewer.ca,
aj_titus2002@yahoo.ca, ken.ross@gnb.ca, nanluke@nb.sympatico.ca,
ericson@unb.ca, ocrdct@hotmail.com, helenel@nb.sympatico.ca,
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lcampenella@ledger.com, AdamsoV@erc-cee.gc.ca, betty.macphee@crtc.gc.ca,
potterl@scc-csc.gc.ca, josee.touchette@justice.gc.ca,
renaudlp@oag-bvg.gc.ca, rdaoust@privcom.gc.ca, rod.smith@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
smorel@gg.ca, rraymond@lcc.gc.ca, execassistant@nafta-sec-alena.org,
caroline.whitby@transfair.ca, pbroder@imaginecanada.ca,
cforcese@uottawa.ca, David.Fewer@uOttawa.ca, Philippa.Lawson@uOttawa.ca,
Stephane.Emard-Chabot@uOttawa.ca, Chantale.Fore@uOttawa.ca,
exec@casis.ca, gkealey@unb.ca, dgollob@cna-acj.ca,
justicepourmohamedharkat@yahoo.ca, mail@ccla.org, info@amnesty.ca,
rocht@iclmg.ca, katiag@ccic.ca, admin@cbanb.com, info@cba.org
The CBC and all others in the media and governemnt will not relay this crap to the people. Perhaps we the people should all ask the politicians who were elected to speak for us why I have been compelled to sue the Queen and the Holy See along with the USA.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: duffy@ctv.ca ; martine.turcotte@bell.ca ; news@ctv.ca ; am@ctv.ca ; diane.bourque@flsc.ca ; jcrosbie@pattersonpalmer.ca ; gbyrne@pattersonpalmer.ca ; corp.website@sunlife.com ; cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; shickman@pattersonpalmer.ca ; lrikleen@Bowditch.com ; John.Conyers@mail.house.gov ; smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ; bmosher@mosherchedore.ca ; carterweb@emory.edu ; Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us ; Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us ; parkhill@stu.ca ; plee@stu.ca ; kentlib@nbnet.nb.ca ; police@fredericton.ca ; davidamos@bsn1.net
Cc: guild@interlog.com ; ombudsman@cbc.ca ; lise@cmg.ca ; pacificpalate@telus.net ; ajehman@hotmail.com ; maureen_matthews@cbc.ca ; gerry@cmg.ca ; bvessey@pei.eastlink.ca ; sallypitt@hotmail.com ; garyparsons@nfld.net ; neilmac@vzw.blackberry.net ; deesdee@yahoo.com ; shawk_1999@yahoo.com ; cari_blanchard@yahoo.com ; cturner@nbnet.nb.ca ; briann@accesswave.ca ; mplaurin@sympatico.ca ; lebelb@nbnet.nb.ca ; slmsmbouchard@hotmail.com ; maurice10@rogers.com ; m.meldrum@ns.sympatico.ca ; twomech@nb.sympatico.ca ; dugasp28@hotmail.com ; embateman@hotmail.com ; sawebb@hotmail.com ; pgcastle@hotmail.com ; bsharpe@nl.rogers.com ; newschick@hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:40 AM
Subject: Hey Duffy I know why Dr. Hamm quit and why the little dog MacKay don't hunt in Nova Scotia(slightly edited DRA)
The sad part is so do you people. I am gonna tell everybody the truth about what CTV and CBC have refused to report for years for the benefit of the rampant public corruption you support for your own personal gain. Need I say that I am happy the crooked CBC dudes are locked out of work right now? It appears to me that blogging is the only way to go these days. What say you? Call me a liar after you hear me speak in Federal Court in Fredericton in the near future. I dare ya to have your lawyer Martine Turcotte explain why Robert C. Pozen has become George W. Bush's favorite Democrat. Better why not ask Sunlife's Yankee lawyer Jeffery Carp why a proud Maritimer smells a lot of rotten fish in Beantown.
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:43:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Dr. Hamm you picked an interesting day to Quit
To: premier@gov.ns.ca, jdewolfe@ns.sympatico.ca,
michael.baker@ns.sympatico.ca, morse.mla@ns.sympatico.ca,
parentma@gov.ns.ca, rodneym@ns.sympatico.ca, rrussellmla@ns.sympatico.ca,
barnetbe@gov.ns.ca, ronchisholmmla@auracom.com,
bill.dooks@ns.sympatico.ca, elf@ns.sympatico.ca,
bill.langille@ns.sympatico.ca, btaylormla@rushcomm.ca,
chatawaymla@hfxeastlink.ca, mlaclarke@ns.sympatico.ca,
Peter.Christie@ns.sympatico.ca, dentreca@gov.ns.ca,
a.macisaac@ns.sympatico.ca, rhurlburt@auracom.com, hinesgb@gov.ns.ca,
educmin@gov.ns.ca, codonnellmla@ns.sympatico.ca,
kgmorashmla@ns.aliantzinc.ca, Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca
CC: john.macdonell@ns.sympatico.ca, mmacdonald@navnet.net,
mhraymondmla@eastlink.ca, wilsond@gov.ns.ca,
marilynmoremla@ns.aliantzinc.ca, jpye@ns.sympatico.ca,
joanmasseymla@ns.aliantzinc.ca, gaudetw@gov.ns.ca, mackinrv@gov.ns.ca,
macdonman@gov.ns.ca, gordiegosse@ns.aliantzinc.ca,
corbettmlacentre@ns.sympatico.ca, stephenmcneil@ns.aliantzinc.ca,
boudrebv@gov.ns.ca, billestabrooks@navnet.net,
davidawilsonmla@eastlink.ca, samsonmp@gov.ns.ca,
charlieparkermla@ns.aliantzinc.ca, Regan.G@parl.gc.ca
Looks like I am about to rain on your party. Perhaps the sneaky political/lawyers Regan and MacKay will tell you why if your own lawyer Mikey Baker won't do so.
"As premier, I am proud of our record,'' Hamm said.
Unlike many of his predecessors, the family doctor is leaving office without a cloud of controversy hanging over his head.
----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:16 PM
Subject: I bet a man named Mr. Tax who works for the Justice Dept doubts that he will
----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: scottmk@gov.ns.ca ; bev.harrison@gnb.ca ; ted.tax@justice.gc.ca ; graham@grahamsteele.ca ; hepstein@supercity.ns.ca ; deveaux.mla@ns.sympatico.ca ; ddexter@ns.sympatico.ca
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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:08 AM
Subject: Hey Ted Tax as soon as I saw that the Lt. Gov had honoured you
I figured you would do nothing to rock the Queen's boat for reasons of job security. However even you and your pension funds rely on the ethics of the Yankees employed by the SEC in the USA. Perhaps you should side with me ASAP. My kids need a roof over their heads. I am not above suing anyone to get one including the Queen and the Holy See. However it is your job to prosecute criminals not mine. Correct?
"Ted Tax and the Department's Atlantic Regional Office (ARO) were honoured at a Nova Scotia Lieutenant Governor's Awards Ceremony. Tax was presented with a Certificate of Recognition for "contribution to the Reserve Force by taking positive action to assist its employees who are reservists in maintaining their commitments to the Canadian Forces." Following September 11, 2001, there was an increase in the demand for military legal officers on operational deployments. Major John Smithers, a lawyer with the Tax Law Services Section of the ARO, was granted military leave to serve on an overseas mission."
For the record this is the text of the cover letter sent to Baker etc. Lets see what Mr. Speaker has to say now. I believe he is an ex cop ain't he? Lets see if he remembers how to uphold the law. If not don't you think it is high time that the lawyers in the NDP give the crooked Conservative Goverment the Boot? Everybody knows they are lapdogs for George W. Bush. Why else did he make it a point to fly down and see them last year and snub Paul Martin and his cohorts in Ottawa?
July 31st, 2005
Lt. Gov. J. Léonce Bernard Lt. Gov. Myra A. Freeman
Premier Pat G. Binns Premier John F. Hamm
c/o Att. Gen. Mildred A. Dover c/o Att. Gen. Michael Baker
Fourth Floor, Shaw Building, North Department of Justice 4th Floor
105 Rochford Street Room 5151 Terminal Road
P.O. Box 2000 P.O. Box 7
Charlottetown, PEI C1A 7N8 Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2L6
Lt. Gov. Norman L. Kwong Lt. Gov. Iona V. Campagnolo
Premier Ralph Klein Premier Gordon Campbell
c/o Att. Gen. Ron Stevens c/o Att. Gen. Wally Oppal
208 Legislature Building Stn Prov Govt PO Box 9044
9E210800 - 97 Avenue Parliament Buildings East Annex
Edmonton, Alberta T5K 2B6 Victoria, BC V8V 1X4
RE: Public Corruption
Hey,
Apparently everybody wanted to play dumb about my concerns and allegations so that Humpty Dumpty Martin’s minority government would not fall and they could party hardy while the Queen was in Canada. As you all know months ago, I began faxing, emailing and calling the eight other Lt. Governors I had yet to cross paths with. I fully informed them of my indignation towards the Governor General Clarkson and two of her other Maritime Lieutenants Roberts and Chaisson before the latest wave of bad acting Yankees invaded my home in the USA without warrants or due process if law.
I made certain all of the provincial Attorney Generals and Premiers can never deny the fact that I tried to make them well aware of my concerns and allegations in order to make everybody should sit up and pay attention. Not one person from any of your offices ever responded in any fashion at all. You can be certain that I expected the deliberate ignorance. It is one of the oldest tricks in the book that lawyers employ in order to play their wicked game of see no evil, hear no evil speak no evil. I knew it would happen particularly after Nova Scotia’s Conflict of Interest Commissioner Merlin Nunn had blocked my emails before I had contacted you. I have no doubt it helped to relieve him of his ethical dilemma before the NS NDP decided what to do about their chance to unseat the Conservatives. I have no doubt whatsoever many lawyers in Canada were praying that the Suffolk County District Attorney would have me back in the loony bin by April 28th and that all your troubles would go away. I opted to let you all have your way and did not bother you anymore until the Queen had left our shores and Parliament quit for the summer. Now it is my turn to have some fun and raise a little Political Hell.
While the Queen, Clarkson and Martin where all having a grand old time on the Canadian dime my little Clan went through living hell down here. Trust me, lawyers need to learn some new tricks. Ignorance is no excuse to the law or me. Making some Canadian Attorney Generals and their political buddies show me their arses is child’s play to me after all that I have experienced in the last few years. If you doubt me ask Michael J. Bryant and Yvon Marcoux why I am so pissed at their bosses and the DHS. Then check my work for yourself. If the tag team of John Ashcroft and Tom Ridge could not intimidate me, believe me you people don’t have a prayer. Both of those dudes have quit their jobs but I am still standing and squaring off against their replacements now. If it were not for all the decent folks I know, the snotty ones like you would make me feel ashamed to be a Canadian. There is no shortage of lawyers. It is just that ethical ones that are rare birds, that’s all. You must know how easily the Canadian people can replace you with other lawyers if it becomes widely known how willing you are to ignore crime if it means some fancy dude may be compelled to suffer for his own wrongs.
The justice system is supposed to be self-policing. It should clean up its own act rather than trying to maintain a false mask of integrity for lawyers that are obviously criminals. It is way beyond my understanding why you people would choose to support the likes of Paul Martin, Adrienne Clarkson, T. Alex Hickman and Billy Matthews if you are not all as crooked as hell as well. The deliberate ignorance and double-talk employed by the wealthy few to dodge simple truths is absolutely offensive to ordinary people blessed with the rare attribute called common sense. Not all folks are like sheep.
Paul Martin’s latest tricks make for a very fine example of truly how bad things are. Even amidst wholesale scandals breaking out hell, west and crooked everywhere lawyers and politicians just close ranks and stand together as thick as the thieves they are. I stress tested the ethics of the ladies of the Bloc Quebecois and the Gomery Inquiry immediately after Martin’s carefully orchestrated little circus in Parliament on May 19th was a matter of history. Lets just say I was not surprised to not hear one peep in response from anyone other than to get a call from an unidentified and very nervous but cocky Yankee lawyer claiming that Tony Blair was mad at me.
Pursuant to my phone calls, emails and faxes please find enclosed as promised exactly the same hard copy of what I sent to the Canadian Ambassadors Allan Rock and Franky Boy McKenna and a couple of nasty FBI agents on May 12th just before an interesting event in front of our home in Milton. I have also included a copy of four letters I have received in response since then that you may find interesting to say the least. I also sent you a copy of a letter sent to a lady Ms. Condolezza Rice whom our former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney considers to be the most powerful woman in the world. The CD of the copy of police surveillance tape # 139 is served upon all the above named Attorney Generals as officers of the court in order that it may be properly investigated.
I will not bother you with the details of what I am sending to you byway of the certified US Mail because I will be serving identical material to many other Canadian Authorities in hand and tell them I gave this stuff to you first and enclose a copy of this letter. All that is important to me right now is that I secure proof that this mail was sent before I make my way back home to the Maritimes. However I will say I am also enclosing a great deal more material than what Allan Rock had received in the UN. Some of it is in fact the same material the two maritime lawyers, Rob Moore and Franky Boy McKenna in particular received, while I was up home running for Parliament last year. Things have changed greatly in the past year so I have also included a few recent items to spice things up for you. I am tired of trying to convince people employed in law enforcement to uphold the law. So all I will say for now is deal will your own conscience and be careful how you respond to this letter. If you do not respond. Rest assured I will do my best to sue you some day. Ignorance is no excuse to the law or me.
Veritas Vincit
David R. Amos
153 Alvin Ave
Milton, MA. 02186
The enclosed letter from The Public Service Integrity Office, whose boss recently testified before the Gomery Inquiry and following quotes prove why I must speak out.
"Well what do you expect?" said Le Hir in reaction. "Anybody who had been involved in that kind of thing isn't going to admit readily, or willfully, to having participated." Asked why he's waited 10 years to come out with his allegations, Le Hir said he was "sworn to secrecy.""I'm breaking that oath, and the only way I could have been relieved by that oath was by a judge in a court saying, 'Mr. Lehir, I understand that you have made an oath of secrecy; and you're hereby relieved of that oath."
"Mr. Wallace added that police and the courts, not internal rules, are best-equipped to deal with bureaucrats who cross the line and break the law. But Judge Gomery did not appear satisfied. "It takes a major scandal to get the police involved," he said. "It is not in the nature of the public service to call in the police."
Everybody knows that in order to protect the rights and interests of my Clan and to sooth my own soul, I have proven many times over that all lawyers, law enforcement authorities, and politicians in Canada and the USA are not worthy of the public trust. I maintain that their first order of business is to protect the evil longstanding system they have created for their own benefit rather than the people they claim to serve. Call me a liar and put it in writing. I Double Dog Dare ya.
Baker got my material. So did everyone else. Only the Attorney General in Quecbec refused it. I bet our newest Governor General knows why. It is likely for the same reason she will not accept my emails. It should be obvious to anyone why I must sue the Crown.
USPS Track and Confirm
Label/Receipt Number: ED71 7170 440U S
Detailed Results:
Delivered Abroad, August 05, 2005, 9:23 am, CANADA
At Foreign Delivery Unit, August 05, 2005, 8:10 am, CANADA
Out of Foreign Customs, August 04, 2005, 2:52 pm, CANADA
Into Foreign Customs, August 04, 2005, 2:22 pm, CANADA
Arrived Abroad, August 04, 2005, 2:22 pm, CANADA
International Dispatch, August 03, 2005, 10:28 am, KENNEDY AMC
Enroute, August 03, 2005, 9:08 am, JAMAICA, NY 11499
Acceptance, August 02, 2005, 10:32 am, QUINCY, MA 02169