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Methinks whereas all I hear is the proverbial crickets I am left to presume that this is the Kevin Cormier who shared many butter tarts with Cardy and the boyz in blue in the Executive Council Office N'esy Pas?



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/inclusion-policy-education-nb-cardy-1.5473448

Education minister calls for review of classroom inclusion policy

Policy will be reviewed to provide clarity on what exactly inclusion in education means

CBC News· Posted: Feb 24, 2020 10:54 AM AT




Education Minister Dominic Cardy said it's time to take a closer look at classroom composition in New Brunswick. (Maria Jose Burgos)

Education Minister Dominic Cardy is calling for a review of New Brunswick's inclusive education policy.

Cardy said maintaining the status quo is no longer an option when it comes to the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development's inclusive classroom policy, which, he said, isn't working effectively for students with developmental disorders, other students in the classroom and teachers.

"The teachers are concerned that they're going to violate the inclusion policy if they discipline a child for acting out," Cardy said, adding students and teachers need to leave some classrooms several times a day or multiple times a week because a student is misbehaving.

"We also have instances of violence against teachers [such as] biting, kicking, punching, spitting, teachers being urinated on."

Green paper tours leads to need for review

Cardy decided a review into the policy was necessary while on a province-wide tour seeking feedback on his green paper on education reform. The 25-page document discusses eliminating grade levels, introducing second language programming in daycares and using more artificial intelligence in the classroom.

On the tour, some parents expressed concerns about schools not having the proper supports and resources in place for children with special needs.


Education Minister Dominic Cardy sought input on his green paper on education reform during a recent province-wide tour. (Hadeel Ibrahim/CBC)

Sharron Gerrits, a Saint John mother of a boy with down syndrome, asked how Cardy planned to address the fact that there are not enough resources to make the inclusion model work.

"We hear students that are ... falling through the cracks," Gerrits said. "Every time we hear how important those supports are, but nothing ever changes."

• Why many New Brunswick teachers remain afraid to speak out

• Education minister seeks public feedback on proposed school reforms

The New Brunswick Teachers' Association began calling for changes to the province's inclusion policy in 2017. It said mixing students who have intellectual disabilities with students who don't can negatively impact the overall learning experience inside the classroom.

Cardy said classrooms have been following an "old industrial era" model. Although schools are progressively changing, he said more needs to be done to accommodate children who learn differently and protect teachers from violent outbursts.

"The difficulty is if you don't have the resources, obviously kids with behavioural issues have behavioural issues, and if they don't have proper supports then that can cause huge disruption in classrooms," Cardy said.

• Cardy hears parent frustrations about inclusion, workload, constant changes

• Teachers call for changes to inclusion policy for classrooms

The review of the policy will include re-examining what the policy is responsible for and making sure that classrooms are properly resourced with educational assistants.

New Brunswick's inclusive education policy was last updated in September 2013.

The policy review will be conducted by the education department. George Daly, the deputy minister for the department and the former head of the NBTA, will be constructing a timeline for the review, which will begin sometime this summer.

With files from Information Morning Fredericton, Elizabeth Fraser

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Terry Tibbs
We are still missing the most important thing that is causing our students to be sub-standard.
There should be a policy of no promotion without merit, like there used to be, worked well for us, so what is the problem?
This pushing students through the system does no one any favours.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
An educational system with no goals to be achieved is little more than a very expensive daycare.

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: "There should be a policy of no promotion without merit,"

Methinks that political policy should apply to Cardy's #1 cheerleader and fellow butter tart consumer Kevin Cormier N'esy Pas? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

David Amos
Methinks Mr Cardy missed being in the news so he chowed down a pile of butter tarts and thought something the media might repeat It appears to have worked like charm N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: "The difficulty is if you don't have the resources, obviously kids with behavioural issues have behavioural issues, and if they don't have proper supports then that can cause huge disruption in classrooms," Cardy said.

Need I say DUHHHH???

James Vander

Reply to @David Amos: Yup, career politician. All he needs is a clipboard to complete the look.

Kevin Cormier

Reply to @James Vander: I've never seen a politician with a clip board, even "career" politicians (though I am unsure of what those politicians are since they must be elected/re-elected which makes for a heck of a "career")

David Amos

Reply to @Kevin Cormier: Methinks you should ask Cardy to explain his career to you N'esy Pas? 

 

Kyle Woodman
Reply to @David Amos: Licking boots is a good job for some.
























Kevin Cormier
Kudos to Min. Cardy for tackling this. I agree, as parent of students, that the policy is flawed. My kids often tell me of issues/distractions, I couldn't imagine trying to learn in that environment. Our kids need to compete on the world scale, we need an educated population. They need to receive primary education for secondary advancement and can not be behind when the take their seat on their first day of university.


David Amos

Reply to @Kevin Cormier: Methinks i should ask if you are the same Kevin Cormier who was just put in charge of 64 libraries across New Brunswick N'esy Pas? 

David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: Methinks that whereas nearly 3 hours have passed and all I hear is the proverbial crickets I am left to presume the you are the same Mr Cormier who shared many butter tarts with Cardy and the boyz in blue in the backrooms of in the Executive Council Office N'esy Pas?  

Brian Robertson

Finally.
This is long overdue.
I just hope any review is open and honest, and has no time for emotion and political correctness.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Brian Robertson:
Cardy has had that job how long? And it took this long for the light to come on?

Tom Simmons 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: He has to do due diligence. He had meetings with all state holders (even though I'm sure he knew he wanted to review this policy). Now opposition can't say he didn't speak with all those affected parties. This is how government works. It's going to get changed, if they can hold onto power.

Michel Jones 

Reply to @Tom Simmons: Hopefully they will hang on to power because they seem to have plans, they are trying at least.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Tom Simmons:
Mr Cardy has been too busy stroking his vaccination itch. This is not rocket science, you simply look at what others are doing successfully, and play monkey see, monkey do. There is no need for the wheel to be re-invented in NB, and unless butter tarts are involved, Mr Cardy is not up to that job.

Tom Simmons 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Monkey see monkey do? OK. Unfortunately there are teachers/students who don't know anything but an inclusion system, and have no idea what another system would even look like. I'm guessing your over 45 and remember a different system. Younger people need to be shown a "new way" but it can't be just forced on them, it needs to be implemented in this fashion.

rayma allaby 

Reply to @Michel Jones: what is their plan take the special needs kids out of the classroom and warehouse them in schools where they get zero school instruction...that is what we had before.

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks Mr Cardy's butter tarts help him to think but he ain't had an original thought yet N'esy Pas?

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Tom Simmons:
Oh, yes a different system.
Inclusion until grade 5, then student separation depending on ability/aptitude. 3 different streams, grade 10 high school graduation, grade 12 high school graduation, grade 13 high school graduation, specifically trades, college, university, destinations.

Tom Simmons

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: What is your plan then? Status quo which is a gong show.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Tom Simmons:
I can live with the way I was educated, or he just needs to find a place that manages to successfully educate their children, then all he has to do is copy what they are doing (that monkey see, monkey do thing I mentioned) and we would be good to go.

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Methinks everybody knows why I called Guy Arseneault's office to remind him of an email I sent him in October of 2018 I bet he will never call me back because I still don't have a Medicare Card YET N'esy Pas? 



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/kevin-cormier-new-brunswick-public-library-executive-director-1.5470064

Qualifications of new head of public library service questioned

Kevin Cormier, in charge of 64 libraries across New Brunswick, is former CEO of Kings Landing

Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon· CBC News· Posted: Feb 24, 2020 6:00 AM AT



Kevin Cormier is the executive director of the New Brunswick Public Library Service, effective Feb. 18. (Kevin Cormier/Facebook)

The new person in charge of the province's 64 public libraries does not appear to have any library training or experience.

Kevin Cormier was appointed executive director of the New Brunswick Public Library Service last week.

The job posting listed "essential qualifications" as a master's degree in library and/or information studies from an American Library Association-accredited program.

Cormier's LinkedIn profile lists his education as a single year at York University's Schulich School of Business in Toronto (2005) and two years at the Moncton Flight College (1998-2000).

The competition for the library position, which comes with an annual salary of up to nearly $114,000, also called for a minimum of eight years of "progressively responsible related work experience," including at least three years of management experience in a "complex operational environment involving responsibility for human and financial resources."

• New Brunswick library use rose 19 per cent in last decade

• Kings Landing to return to old ways after complaints about static exhibits

A combination of education, training and experience may be considered, it said.

Cormier spent the past year as a strategic adviser in the Executive Council Office, working on corporate governance and accountability with agencies, boards and commissions of the public service.

He was previously the chief executive officer of Kings Landing Corporation and made some contentious changes during his seven years at the historical settlement near Fredericton, at least one of which was reversed following public outcry.

His other work experience includes three years in advertising and several years in various marketing-related positions — all in senior roles, including owning his own marketing company.

'Puts the library system at risk'

Courtney Pyrke, who has a master's degree in library science from the University of Western Ontario, worked at the Saint John Free Public Library for about 18 months and is now doing her PhD at the University of New Brunswick in Saint John, called the appointment surprising and disappointing.

"It doesn't sound like he has any experience even working in a library let alone having a degree in library science, so I think that's troublesome for the profession to not really understand, I guess, the theoretical concepts of librarianship," said Pyrke.

"I mean not understanding how collection development works, not understanding how community outreach works — it kind of puts the library system at risk."

It would be like hiring an economist to head a social work department.

- Joann Hamilton-Barry, retired  director, Saint John Free Public Library

Joann Hamilton-Barry, who recently retired as the director of the Saint John Free Public Library after 33 years, said when other provinces and municipalities have hired non-librarians to head up library systems, "it didn't usually go well."

"It would be like hiring an economist to head a social work department. It's just not usually done."

Pyrke compared it to hiring somebody without a medical degree or experience in the medical field to run a medical system and said it "looks bad on the profession."

"I think just to not have that skill set or even have an understanding of the skill set that's needed to work as a librarian, that kind of calls into question the types of people that they're going to hire moving forward," she said.

"Like for me as a librarian, it makes me not want to work in that system."

Filled through talent program

The Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour declined an interview about Cormier's appointment to the Fredericton-based job that required written and spoken "competence" in both English and French.

But in an emailed statement, spokesperson Leigh Watson said the department is "confident that his past experience, skills and abilities will serve the public library service very well."

Watson declined further comment, referring to it as "an internal human resources matter."

Pressed further, the acting communications director for the department, Erika Jutras, said the position was advertised as a competition and ultimately filled by the deputy minister through the Corporate Talent Management Program.


Liberal MLA Guy Arseneault said the government should base its hiring decisions on qualifications alone. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

The Corporate Talent Management Program provides current and aspiring executives in the upper pay bands with "opportunities to further develop their executive competencies within and/or outside their current department," according to the government's website.

"We have an outstanding workforce and expertise in [the New Brunswick Public Library Service] across the province, along with committed local, regional, and provincial stakeholders," Jutras said in an emailed statement.

"Mr. Cormier has the training, experience and leadership we are looking for at this time."

Cormier did not respond to a request for an interview.

His predecessor, Sylvie Nadeau, retired.

Hires should be based on qualifications

Guy Arseneault, the Official Opposition's critic for Post-Secondary Education, said he could not speak to Cormier's resumé, but "government hires should be based on qualifications alone."

"We have seen this government make some questionable hires for high-paying jobs," Arseneault, the MLA for Campbellton-Dalhousie, said in an emailed statement. "If this is another political hire then it just further tarnishes Blaine Higgs's image.

"I hope that he was not hired to implement the rumoured cuts to library services."

In some jurisdictions, such as British Columbia, the legislation governing the public library service clearly stipulates the director must be "a qualified librarian."

An inter-office memo announcing Cormier's appointment said he "brings a diverse background to the role."
 

When he was CEO at Kings Landing near Fredericton, Cormier came under criticism for replacing some historical re-enactments and costumed actors with static exhibits. (Sarah Petz/CBC )

The Feb. 20 memo, obtained by CBC News, describes Cormier, as a "team-oriented, creative and dynamic individual who is an outside the box thinker."

In 2018, Cormier made headlines when some re-enactments at Kings Landing were replaced, under his leadership, with static exhibits, prompting public meetings and online petitions.

Critics said character interpretation gave guests a better understanding of what rural life was like in the 19th century, and was crucial to the popular tourist attraction being an authentic historic settlement.

Last March, Cormier announced plans to start using costumed characters in the three old houses again.

In his LinkedIn profile, Cormier describes himself as "a passionate fella."

"Whether it be leading teams and organizations in government and private sector through effective change management, developing new products or ways to experience them, building relationships with partners or facilitating relationships between brands and audiences — I love making awesome things happen."

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David Amos
Check the first link CBC offers as a related story

Methinks a lot of us said a lot on this topic 7 months ago and it never even slower Higgy down with his blatantly obvious political patronage N'esy Pas?











David Amos
Methinks whereas all I hear is the proverbial crickets after nearly 3 hours I am left to presume that the dude singing Cardy's praises in another article is the same Kevin Cormier who shared many butter tarts with Cardy and the boyz in blue in the Executive Council Office N'esy Pas?












David Amos 
Methinks nobody should be surprised about things He was probably the only bilingual applicant with the proper PC pedigree However the Liberal MLA Guy Arseneault should be far or concerned about the health care in his neighbourhood rather than who is overseeing the well being of our old books N'esy Pas? 













David Amos
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Is not even noon and a 100 comments thus far Yet still nobody has bothered to call me back Surprise Surprise Surprise


























Mark Curran
CBC wants a liberal government

Mark Curran

Reply to @Mark Curran: cbc likes to silence logic

Mark Curran

Reply to @Mark Curran: I'm going to sue cbc

David Amos

Reply to @Mark Curran: Methinks it may be wise to check my work first N'esy Pas?

maggie short
this is a terrible appoinment in a province of educated citizens. saint john new brunswick established the first free public library , the first free public education (many other education first the historic outcome of the united empire loyalists from new york)....libraries are changing but one needs an education that includes library systems throughout canada. the saint john public library today houses significant historical records of new brunswick ...this library is a significant keeper of our history.

Mark Curran

Reply to @maggie short: you have no idea what hes capable of and just responding to the outcry. Library sciences has nothing to do with marketing or sales

Kyle Woodman

Reply to @Mark Curran: Where did Cormier get his marketing degree again?

Mark Curran

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: some people have talent Kyle. You're not one of them

Kyle Woodman

Reply to @Mark Curran: I'm a professional. I have credentials and talent thank you very much.

David Amos

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: "Friendly out-going individual who is team and success oriented. Diligent worker and determined to persevere in any environment or scenario. Adaptable and resilient with interpersonal relationships with co-worker and customer alike." AND Who also has a bad habit of offending people online

Samantha Jones
As a citizen I would like the following answered:
How many individuals applied for this position with MLIS qualifications
How many were interviewed
How many were internal employees
How many were external applicants
How many hours were spent by HR on this process
So GNB please respond.


David Amos  

Reply to @Samantha Jones: Good luck with that

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Samantha Jones:
Whos on first.


Nathalie Richard
Reply to @Samantha Jones: 


David Amos

Reply to @Nathalie Richard: Say what?

Fred Brewer
Reply to @Samantha Jones: Samantha, these are all excellent questions and one would hope the CBC would follow up. But please know that any citizen can file a freedom of information request under the Right to Information and Protection of Privacy Act. Your questions are generic and are not a violation of anyone's privacy as you are not asking for names of the applicants.
https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/finance/office_of_the_chief_information_officer/content/rti/request.html


























Rod McLeod
Given his ECO background, it's safe to say this guy is a professional desk filler. The skills are schmoozing and office hopping looking for a better cheque.

David Amos

Reply to @Rod McLeod: BINGO 

David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: That and who his fat daddy knows 


Kyle Woodman
Reply to @Rod McLeod: ECO is where incompetance thrives.

June Arnott

wish I had friends in high places to get me a job that pays over 100K and I have no qualifications for

Mack Leigh

Reply to @June Arnott: Unfortunately you would have to also change your last name ., and become one of the " chosen " here , in this place.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Mack Leigh: What does having to change your name have to do with anything ?

Tim Yates

Reply to @Marc Martin: I think "Mack means you would have to change your name to "Mark" ;-)

David Amos

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks the mindless minions with the SANB prove on a daily basis that political science in New Brunswick ain't rocket science N'esy Pas?

Danny Devo

Higgs is disgusting!

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Danny Devo: Agreed. It would appear his hiring policy can be encapsulated with just three words. OINK, OINK, OINK.

David Amos 

Reply to @Danny Devo: Methinks many folks who don't bother to vote would agree that they all are N'esy Pas? 
 

 

Mark Tyson

A word to the wise here. Never ever put people in positions of power in any company other than marketing and advertising who's only background is just that . Why? Because that is all they know ! I was in the beer trade for thirty years.In the end it became painfully and I do mean painful that marketeers were the tail wagging the dog. Not only did they design our labels and beer boxes,they got it into their tiny little heads that marketing should direct how the product should taste ! Run that forward to today and golly gee wiz both Labatt and Molson in Canada and Bud,Coors,Miller etc have been trending downward and losing market share to much smaller breweries since 1988 .It was obvious in 1986 when B.C. got its first micro brewer that the writing was on the wall,to me at least,that once the consumer gets a 'taste' of what a beer or stout can really taste like it . It was just a matter of time and here we are today. The man has zero qualifications to hold this position. Zero ! Don't let the government do this otherwise you will end up with libraries made up of magazines instead of books and after a few years there will be an announcement that half or more of your libraries will be gone. Cons hate knowledge and if you have not figured that out yet you better wise up and soon.

David Amos 

Reply to @Mark Tyson: Methinks many folks would agree that there is not one wiseguy in the New Brunswick government or its opposition N'esy Pas? 

 

 

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: Too bad you can't get elected, oh wise one!


David Amos  

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you know why I ran as well as I and it had nothing to do with being elected N'esy Pas?

Ben Haroldson
14 tracking companies on here this morning.


David Amos 

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Methinks Higgy's minions can blame me for that because my Tweet about this nonsense out of the gate N'esy Pas? 
 

June Arnott
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: whats a tracking company


David Amos 

Reply to @June Arnott: The dudes who are following my blog about this nonsense

Mack Leigh
Oh look !!!!!!!!!!! A Francophone who speaks French but does not have the required qualifications got a top government job ---- how novel, here in NB..


Kyle Woodman 

Reply to @Mack Leigh: I have bilingual friends with a Masters Degrees in Library Science that would have loved this job. They spent their whole careers moving towards a position like that. Must be disenfranchising.

Justin Time

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Try putting an anglophone (bilingual or not) in charge of Village Historique Acadien. See how that goes.

Mack Leigh 

Reply to @Justin Time: And the forced social engineering, apartheid-style governing continues.

Mack Leigh 

Reply to @Justin Time: And yet they had absolutely no problem putting this guy in charge of King's Landing.

Barbara Canuski 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: This just sends a strong message to civil servants that government is not a merit-based organization where advancement based on qualifications and hard work will pay off. No wonder so many civil servants just phone it in.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Yawnnnn...

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you still have that bitter taste in your mouth from eating his cornflakes N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
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CoRservative appointed employee.

Mack Leigh

Content disabled 
Reply to @Marc Martin: Yawnnnnnn!!!!!

Marc Martin

Content disabled 
Reply to @Mack Leigh: Someone pissed in your cornflakes this morning buddy ?

David Amos

Content disabled 
Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you should know you ate them N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Another Higgy appointee.

Mack Leigh

Reply to @Marc Martin: Yawnnnnn---your bias is showing yet again , ole boy..

Marc Martin

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Higgs is that you ?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks he went "Poof" after you stole his cornflakes and gobbled them down N'esy Pas?

Barbara Canuski
Hiring like this happens all the time. The public rarely learns of it except when someone leaks it.

Us civil servants have been watching it for years regardless of who is in power.


David Amos 

Reply to @Barbara Canuski: Oh So True Which begs the question who leaked this and why?

Justin Thyme
This is so obviously a political/friend appointment it's pathetic. I really thought the Higgs government was above this. It's so dissapointing. NB will be the laughing stock of the national and international library community. Would you let a grocery store manager take out your appendix?


Greg Smith 

Reply to @Justin Thyme: If Higgs actually closed all the ER’s, that might have been the only way to have an appendectomy performed!

Justin Time

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Reply to @Justin Thyme: YOU IMPOSTOR! The real Justin Time.lol .

David Amos

Reply to @Justin Time: Methinks I should ask the obvious question how can he be an imposter when that is not your real name? However it is indeed too funny that such a name has broken the rules twice N'esy Pas? 
 

Justin Thyme
Content disabled
Reply to @Justin Time: Justin, I use a "nom de plume " because under the current government's clear lack of impartiality I would not want anyone I know to be affected by my criticism. I do not trust them to not be vindictive.
We should meet for a beer sometime.


David Amos

Reply to @Justin Thyme: Methinks Higgy and his minions know i never had a beer in my life but feel free to call me and we can talk of coffee sometime soon. Everybody knows that my contact number can be found at the bottom of my lawsuit against the Queen in Fat Fred City Federal Court File No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas? 
 

David Amos
Reply to @Justin Thyme: "I use a "nom de plume " because under the current government's clear lack of impartiality I would not want anyone I know to be affected by my criticism. I do not trust them to not be vindictive. We should meet for a beer sometime"

Too Too Funny Indeed


David Amos 

Reply to @Justin Time: Methinks he who laughs last laughs best N'esY Pas?

'YOU IMPOSTOR! The real Justin Time.lol "

Gary Melanson
What a bad joke!!!!!


David Amos

Reply to @Gary Melanson: Relax Never forget that this is just a circus

Fred Brewer
So despite a public outcry that reversed one of his Kings Landing decisions, the PC government feels this man is qualified despite having absolutely no qualifications in Library Sciences. Way to go Mr. Higgs. I guess bilingual was all you needed to see on that resume.


Michael Milne 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: That is the number one problem, simply there are not enough francophones to fill all the positions when two thirds of the province is anglophone, so underqualified people who happen to speak English and French get the job or the French voters go crazy - it is time to change the bi-lingual policy and fix it long term through immersion from kindergarden - other countries do it, so should we.

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Fred Brewer: The leader of the PA, le crisse d'hostie, might have had something to do with this hiring, don't you think?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Michael Milne: zzzzzzzzzzz..That kind of thinking is old and has been proven false move on.
 

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks the bilingual Mr Cormier knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody in the SANB and that person likely knows you N'esy Pas?

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @David Amos:
4th removed? Wanna bet it's closer than that?

Kyle Woodman 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Not True I actually know several bilingual people in this province with masters in Library Science. They would have loved that job.

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: What??? I did not say that qualified bilingual persons did not exist. Please re-read my comment.

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nope Methinks you and the mob know that I am a far better gambler than that N'esy Pas?

Mack Leigh
" Government should hire based on qualifications alone " said the kettle to the pot..... All is well here in NB, they hired a person that is a francophone and speaks french... What could be more perfect, after all it is language over everything else here in good ole NB.


Justin Time 

Reply to @Mack Leigh: La Patente is alive and well in New Brunswick.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Mack Leigh:
Or, in other words, the tail wags the dog once again.

Edward J Clement 

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Agreed - French speaking trumps all with government positions.

David Amos 

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks its a proper start for the circus in Fat Fred City first thing Monday morning N'esy Pas?

Jerry Dion
"Guy Arseneault, the Official Opposition's critic for Post-Secondary Education, said he could not speak to Cormier's resumé, but "government hires should be based on qualifications alone."

"We have seen this government make some questionable hires for high-paying jobs," Arseneault, the MLA for Campbellton-Dalhousie, said in an emailed statement. "If this is another political hire then it just further tarnishes Blaine Higgs's image"

This is cute coming from the liberals who have and I'm sure would still do it. Got to love politics.


David Amos

Reply to @Jerry Dion: Welcome back to the circus

David Amos
FYI I just called Guy Arseneault's office to remind him byway of his nice assistant of an email I sent him in October of 2018 Methinks he will never call me back because he knows that I still don't have a Medicare Card and he won't want to discuss that simple fact N'esy Pas? 




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> N'esy Pas Blaine Higgs?
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> Acadian Legend Jackie Vautour views on New Brunswick 2018 Provincial
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> Subject: Merci / Thank you Re: Yo Bob Scott Clearly Clearly your
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/kevin-arseneau-legislature-green-party-1.4868190
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> Ties matter: Green MLA will represent New Brunswickers by sporting
> their neckties
>
>
> Kevin Arseneau doesn't own many ties — so he's calling on his
> constituents for ties meaningful to them
> Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Oct 18, 2018 2:40 PM AT
>
> Green Party MLA Kevin Arseneau doesn't wear ties. But he's going to
> have to if he plans to represent his constituents in the legislative
> assembly. (Tori Weldon/CBC)
>
> As soon as Kevin Arseneau realized he'd been elected as the new Green
> Party MLA for Kent North, he knew he had a problem.
>
> He was going to have to start wearing neckties.
>
> "One of my first questions to the clerk was, 'What are the other
> options?'" he said. "I was kind of looking for a creative way to get
> out of it, but there's not really any way out of it."
> CBC News
> Green MLA makes call out for ties
> 00:00 01:02
> Kevin Arsenault doesn't like ties, but he'll wear meaningful ones for
> his MLA job. 1:02
>
>     Green MLA Kevin Arseneau says he'll put Kent North first
>     Brian Gallant, Blaine Higgs urged to form a grand coalition to
> govern New Brunswick
>     Unfilled Speaker's chair could bring on another election — this fall
>
> The rules of the legislative assembly require men to wear ties if
> they're in the chamber during official business.
>
> But Arseneau, a 33-year-old organic farmer from Rogersville, owns
> exactly two ties — each of which he has worn exactly once.
>
> "I got married without a tie," he said.
> 'I'm not wearing it for me'
>
> He complained on Twitter, tongue-in-cheek, about the stuffy
> requirement, and in response received two ties in the mail from one of
> his fans, Louisiana-based Cajun singer and activist Zachary Richard.
>
> And that gave Arseneau an idea.
>
> "The tie means nothing for me, absolutely nothing for me. I'm not
> wearing it for me. I'm not going to go shop for some ties and blow my
> money on some ties," he said.
>
> "I'm thinking to myself: 'Why am I wearing a tie? I'm wearing a tie so
> I can be in the legislative assembly and defend my constituents and
> defend the people who elected me, so why don't I wear their ties
> instead?'"
> Having meaningful ties
>
> Arseneau posted to Facebook to ask that his constituents mail him ties
> — ties that are meaningful to them somehow.
>
> And, he said, he plans to find a way to pass on why the ties matter.
>
> "I might as well, if I have the tie on, know what it means and what it
> stands for," he said. "I definitely want to tell those stories."
>
> Before posting the request, the rookie MLA checked with the ethics
> commissioner on the restrictions on accepting gifts.
>
>     My biggest problem now is I've got to learn how to tie the knot. I
> haven't done that yet.
>     -Kevin Arseneau, MLA
>
> So he's stipulating that he'll send back any ties from people or
> businesses who have dealings with the government, or that exceed the
> maximum allowable value for a gift: $250.
>
> "I hope there are not ties that are worth that kind of money," Arseneau
> said.
>
> No ties have arrived yet, but Arseneau said he has received many
> messages that some are on the way.
>
> "My biggest problem now is I've got to learn how to tie the knot. I
> haven't done that yet," he said. "I was hoping Zachary sent them with
> the knot already in. I'm going to be looking at YouTube videos or
> asking my dad or [Green Leader David Coon] for some pointers."
>
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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others

Most folks smelled this nonsense coming all day and the comments stopped almost instantly Methinks the CBC and their buddies the SANB/liberals need to learn some new tricks N'esy Pas? 



 https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/02/er-controversy-hurts-pcs-already_25.html



#nbpoli#cdnpoli



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/savoie-francophone-minister-higgs-cabinet-1.5475150









David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others

If I see "Content disabled" I build a blog ASAP EH Methinks if Jean Gauvin's bouncing baby boy photo is prominently displayed its bound to inspire hundreds of indignant comments from the folks in "The Place to Be" overnight N'esy Pas?


#nbpoli#cdnpoli




https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pc-diminished-standing-francophone-1.5474180

ER controversy hurts P.C.'s already diminished standing in francophone New Brunswick

The party already had marketing issues in the north, now they're worse off

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Feb 25, 2020 6:00 AM AT




Until two weeks ago Shippagan-Lamèque-Miscou MLA Robert Gauvin was the only francophone in Premier Blaine Higgs P.C. caucus, now there are none. (Michel Corriveau/Radio-Canada)

The Higgs government's botched attempt at health-care reforms has made an already bad situation even worse for the Progressive Conservatives in francophone and northern New Brunswick.

Some PC members have quit the party, a former cabinet minister has condemned the changes, and the party's president says grassroots members are apprehensive with a possible election looming.

"What I've heard as party president is that it was launched very poorly, with a lot of unanswered questions as to what was going to happen next," said Claude Williams, the francophone former MLA for Kent South and a one-time minister in two PC governments.

"A lot of people are on their guard to see if it's going to come back or not," said Williams.

• Ex-deputy premier Gauvin plans to vote against Higgs's provincial budget

• Analysis
  Higgs may have jeopardized reputation for making politically risky decisions in health reform fallout

"Everywhere I go, people talk to me about it, and I've heard the same thing from the party also."
The reforms, which included the nighttime closure of six small-hospital emergency departments, triggered anger in affected communities both anglophone and francophone.

But the reaction has been strongest among francophones, many of whom were already unsure whether Premier Blaine Higgs was sensitive to their concerns.

"This is a government decision for them to sell to New Brunswickers," said Williams, a former minister in the Alward and Lord governments who became party president last fall. "The party [members] in some areas, especially up north, they're concerned."

Internal strife

The reforms prompted the resignation of the only francophone member of the PC cabinet and caucus, Shippagan-Lamèque-Miscou MLA Robert Gauvin.

Long-time PC supporter Alban Duguay of Shippagan said while he will remain a party member, he supports Gauvin's resignation and hopes Higgs will lose his seat in the next election and be replaced as leader.

Meanwhile, the entire executive of the PC riding association in the riding of Caraquet resigned last Friday to show their support for the hospital there.

"Rural areas appear to have been forgotten by departmental civil servants and by the Higgs government," said Gilles Savoie, who was president of the association until he quit and who believes the cancellation of the reforms on Feb. 16 will only be temporary.

Former finance minister and former interim party leader Jeannot Volpé also criticized the reform plan and said alternatives exist, including a proposal submitted by his brother, Rino Volpé, when he was CEO of the Vitalité health authority.



Gilles Savoie was the president of the PC riding association in the riding of Caraquet until he quit and who believes the cancellation of the reforms on Feb. 16 will only be temporary. (Alix Villeneuve/Radio-Canada)

It would have spared services and instead slashed wasteful layers of administration at Horizon health hospitals in Saint John, Fredericton and Moncton — changes "that could create a reaction" and that the Higgs PCs wanted to avoid, Jeannot Volpé said.

By opting to target small hospitals instead, the party has put itself in a dire situation with a possible election campaign within weeks, Volpé said.

PC supporters he knows in the Madawaska area already "don't feel the party is representing northern New Brunswick anymore," Volpe said.

"People are saying, 'I might have been interested in running but now, no, there's no interest, because 'how can I convince people to vote for me with what's going on?'"

Williams agreed the last two weeks will make it difficult to recruit PC candidates. "Definitely in some areas, it's going to be a challenge. … There's no question about that."
 

As party president, Williams must prepare the PC machine for an election if the government's budget is voted down March 20.

But he hedged when asked if he's confident Higgs understands francophone communities and is able to handle their reaction.

"That's a good question," he said. "That's a question to ask him.

"The premier has been an MLA, he's been minister of finance, so he's had a chance to crisscross the province on many occasions. He must be very well-briefed on the situation. So that's a question for the premier."
 

Jeannot Volpé, a former interm leader of the P.C.'s, said supporters he knows in the Madawaska area already "don't feel the party is representing northern New Brunswick anymore." (Kassandra Nadeau/Radio-Canada)

On the day Gauvin resigned, Higgs said he has made an effort to understand the concern of francophone and northern areas.

"Have I treated any part of this province differently than another? No, I have not," Higgs said.

"Have I been different than past governments, who maybe have bought their way to one solution over another? Likely, but I've done that all over the province. That has not been unique to the north or unique to the south."

Difficult election ahead

Higgs went into the 2018 election with two handicaps: his involvement more than three decades ago with the Confederation of Regions party, which opposed official bilingualism, and his own inability to communicate well in French.

Gauvin's narrow victory in Shippagan-Lamèque-Miscou, by just 99 votes, gave the PCs a one-seat edge over the incumbent Liberals and allowed them to eventually win the confidence of the legislature and form a fragile minority government.

But University of Moncton political scientist Roger Ouellette says the PCs will be in an even more difficult position now.
 

University of Moncton political scientist Roger Ouellette says given 16 out of 49 ridings are majority francophone, and another five have at least 20 percent francophone populations, the Tories will enter a campaign with a serious handicap. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)

Ouellette says the health reform debate is more about rural-urban divisions than English-French or north-south splits. He pointed out that Gauvin attended a rally in Sussex last week to support the local hospital there.

But he says Gauvin's decision to quit — unlike Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins PC MLA Bruce Northrup, who chose to remain a PC — signalled to francophones the party wasn't sympathetic to their concerns.

Given 16 out of 49 ridings are majority francophone, and another five have at least 20 percent francophone populations, the Tories will enter a campaign with a serious handicap, Ouellette said.

"The party can forget about winning a majority in the next election," he said.

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379 Comments 




David Amos 

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Methinks if Jean Gauvin's bouncing baby boy photo is prominently displayed its bound to inspire hundreds of indignant comments from the folks in "The Place to Be" overnight N'esy Pas?









David Amos
Methinks its nice to see the PC Party so Happy Happy Happy N'esy Pas?











David Amos
Methinks Claude Williams must recall our conversation during the last election while I was running against his buddy Bruce Northrup N'esy Pas?


Lou Bell 

Reply to @David Amos: Why is every opinion you express about you ? Not hard to see why you get less votes when running than the number of signatures on your nomination papers !!

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Yo buggie Methinks it time for an old widow who has been known to work for Horizon to have a nap N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: The Fred police tried to stick a similar one on Chucky LeBlanc. We all know how that one ended.


David Amos

Content disabled 
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Who do you thinks stopped that 301 nonsense and reminded them of section 300? Methinks if you SANB dudes knew how to research then you would know everybody and his dog knows Trust that it was me and NOT the Canadian Civil Liberties Association that proved how dumb Booby Baby Costello (That punk grew up in Sussex while the RCMP were to hiring me to investigate things) and his buddies in the Fat Fred City Finest were. I knew about the 301/300 stuff because of my doings with Byron Prior on the Rock many years before anyone can Google it to verify N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I am the dude who fixed that nonsense everybody knows that 













David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise

Francophones question new minister's commitment

PC MLA Glen Savoie may have francophone roots, but community says the role is a lost cause
Danielle McCreadie · CBC News · Posted: Feb 25, 2020 4:08 PM AT




David Amos
Methinks CBC #1 fan appears to be somewhat bitter this evening and is off his meds and babbling to himself in a rather strange fashion N'esy Pas?



















Lewis Taylor
you proved my point

Lewis Taylor

Reply to @Lewis Taylor:
CBC

 

 

Lewis Taylor

Reply to @Lewis Taylor:
is

 

 

Lewis Taylor

Reply to @Lewis Taylor:
an anti-francophone

 

 

Lewis Taylor

Reply to @Lewis Taylor:
tool

 

 

Lewis Taylor 

Reply to @Lewis Taylor:
dufus

Lewis Taylor
When will the cbc stop bigotry?




























Lou Bell
When is Jacques gonna do a piece about the 130 Million Dollar undisclosed GIVEAWAY by the Liberal SANB Party to their sycophants ??

Lewis Taylor 

Reply to @Lou Bell:
Get over it!!! Not a penny was spent. some people cannot be educated.

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you have been made well aware he has it slated to be addressed on or about the 12th of Never N'esy Pas?

Toby Tolly
 the franco reaction is a bit over the top join quebec

Toby Tolly

Reply to @Toby Tolly: clickety clack clickety clack
moudis and tabranac

David Amos

Reply to @Toby Tolly: C'est Vrai 
 

Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Toby Tolly:
francophones were here long before you...get the message?





























Bob Smith
You have to wonder, if the ER closures were strictly in the south, would the uproar be as great? Would Volpe and Gauvin express outrage on the same level?

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Bob Smith: We haven't heard much uproar from the South either, did we?

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks your fancy red French knickers are in such a knot that you have overlooked the hoedowns Sackville and Sussex N'esy Pas? 

 

Bob Smith
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: There was but you're dodging the point, aren't you?


Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @David Amos: They cared about Sussex and Sackville,not the North. 

 

David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you mean that you SANB dudes cared not about the south N'esy Pas? 


Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: Mais oui!

David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Imagine you being honest WOW 



























Archie Levesque
So there is now another story on this subject that is not open to comments. In that piece are various bigoted attitudes towards a bilingual member of the PC party. SANB members are upset because he was not raised as a francophone in a francophone area. I thought that as long as they were fluent that was all that mattered.

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Archie Levesque: Personally, I would give Mr. Savoie a chance. It's this government that I do not trust. Gauvin could do nothing and neither will Savoie, I'm afraid.

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you don't know about Savoie, Higgy and I way back in 2010 or how Savoie angered many locals since I bet Higgy and his best buddy Cardy will never forget Savoie losing his seat and how he got it back N'esy Pas? 

 

Fred Brewer
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Saying you will give him a chance and then saying he will do nothing are two statements that conflict with each other.  


Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: But you trust a Government that underhandedly was planning on giving 130 million of taxpayers money away UNANNOUNCED ???? To a minority solely comprised of their sycophants ?? Really ?? Really ???


David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should go back to bed Ibet you are even boring yourself N'esy Pas?






















Tom Gordon
Never seemed to be an issue when the cabinet was 99% francophone did it.


David Amos 

Reply to @Tom Gordon: Nope

Marguerite Deschamps  

Reply to @Tom Gordon: When was the cabinet ever 99% Francophone, may I ask?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: It never has been...Last time Galant was in power it was 50/50.

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Who cares?

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @David Amos: If VanHorne was still here, he'd care!

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I was talking to old Charlie's granddaughter before the last provincial election. A buddy of mine worked for Van Horne and I liked his son's bike The young lady was quick to inform me that dude was her daddy. Go figure what candidate she was supporting. 

 

Marguerite Deschamps 
Reply to @David Amos: Let me guess, YOU!  


David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Nope and you will never guess Methinks you have to get some SANB minion to research That is if you truly care N'esy Pas?

Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Tom Gordon:
never happened.



























sandymctavish726 mctavish
francophones vote liberal as they are told to do so by their local priests. new brunswick in reality is an english speaking province with area's of acadian language....but the french used in NB government jobs is the quebec type french at the highest levels....so i say too many quebecers have moved into northern NB & they are driving the language issue....ie all NBers paid by government (our english tax dollars) should be born in new brunswick by new brunswick cradle parents before they are chosen for any government jobs..especially the high levels of salary.


Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @sandymctavish726 mctavish: Where do you get all these prepoterous stories?

Marc Martin

Reply to @sandymctavish726 mctavish: You should write a fictional novel..

David Amos

Reply to @sandymctavish726 mctavish: Methinks the PANB and the SANB both write a lot of nasty fiction for the benefit of nobody I wish to know N'esy Pas?

Lewis Taylor
Reply to @sandymctavish726 mctavish:
what a bigoted post!























kelly sherrard
People are too worried about the Premier being bilingual and having a strong number of francophone ministers in this province yet they lose focus on the fact that if this province is going to come back from the brink of financial collapse, we need INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, regardless of what language they speak, to work as MLAs and ministers. I don't care if the Premier speaks only mandarin chinese or Russian, as long as they can get this province out of the hole it is in because people have demanded that there be a strong francophone representation in gov't in this province. Being francophone doesn't mean an automatic gold star in this province.


Marc Martin  

Reply to @kelly sherrard: *Being francophone doesn't mean an automatic gold star in this province.* Nope but it tends to help when they have to make decisions, it also does not help when the current premier was a CoR member and has united himself with the anti-French political party of NB.

David Amos

Reply to @kelly sherrard: Good luck having your wishes come true

Methinks the RCMP prove on a daily basis that we get the governments we deserve N'esy Pas?

Bob Smith
I await the followup piece where CBC covers Keith Vickers and how his lack of policies and vision hinder his political chances with interviews of many anglophones troubled by this stance.

Graeme Scott

Reply to @Bob Smith: Don't hold your breath

David Amos

Reply to @Graeme Scott: Methinks if he did then Poitras would have turned into an interesting shade of blue without having to hold his breath N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Bob Smith: *I await the followup piece where CBC covers Keith Vickers and how his lack of policies and vision * How could they he has never been in power.... *many anglophones troubled by this stance.* Standing to stop the health cuts ?? Anglophones feel bad about that ? Perhaps you should ask the people of Sussex about this

Terry L. Sisson 

Reply to @Bob Smith:

Bob Smith

Reply to @Marc Martin: Right...and his plan is what? His solution is what? You think status quo is going to continue indefinitely without needed fixes? Liberals, and their supporters, think everyone forgets the fiascos Graham and Gallant foisted onto this province. Vickers hasn't shown anything different as of yet...

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Bob Smith: But what about Point Lepreau ? What about the forest sold to Irvings and made the market unfair for smaller wood industries ? Your not talking about these decisions ?

Terry L. Sisson 

Reply to @Terry L. Sisson: Well, what I was going to say was that I do not know Keith Vickers. I might accept what Bob Smith is saying however, when I find out who this guy (Keith Vickers) is it probably will make a difference. It is a little difficult to accept comments about a mysterious person. Everything always comes down to language. No matter if governments are saving lives or building roads, it comes down to duality and not bilingualism. Six hospitals were names and unless I missed something, it was three of each!

Bob Smith 

Reply to @Marc Martin: You think Liberals have done better? Parlee Beach...household tax debacle...the Francophone Game nightmare..if Vickers wants to be elected, he has to show his policies, his vision...not as an invisible man talking vaguely when found.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Bob Smith: *Parlee Beach* What is wrong about building new camping sites to attract more tourist and money to the province ??? *household tax debacle* You mean the double tax? Only the rich people are debating this. *the Francophone Game nightmare* But was money spent ?? Point Lepreau refurbishing was approve by the Bernard Lord administration, when the Libs tried to sell NB Power to Quebec the CoRservatives did all in their power to stop the selling of this corporation. What about the forest almost given to the Irving, you do realize that closed several small wood industries across NB right ?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: When was the last time you went swimming at Parlee Beach?

Jim Cyr
Come on, my Acadian brothers and sisters! Stop being such Sheeple, owned by the Liberal Party....smh

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Jim Cyr: The South is not known for voting Liberal !

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I can recall a time when Saint John alone had 5 Liberal MLA's along with I think 2 or 3 of them being Ministers. I think if memory serves that was Shawn Graham's government.

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks if you check history the entire Maritimes were overseen by the red coats in 2015 Now times are changing N'esy Pas?

Robert G. Holmes
Face it; Too many provincial admin costs! Only one Health System, and one Education System, (for starters), is affordable in the Atlantic Region. Think of the benefits. Think sustainably. Get the Politicians out of Education and Health.


David Amos 

Reply to @Robert G. Holmes: I agree

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: Give this man his Medicare card!

Marc Martin

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: His current job as Santa Claus is the reason why they wont allow it...

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Marc Martin: The poor man needs to see a shrink real bad!

Marc Martin

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I know, he now wants to send a sheriff to some Marc Martin across the province...

David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: More libel???  


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: You wouldn't know what libel is if it stared you right in the face.


David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: We shall see if the RCMP agrees with you or not

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: Tell the RCMP to tell it to the judge.

David Amos  

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: For him Libel only applies to him, ive seen him call me names, and try to insult me on this site, even if it was true he would loose in a heartbeat in court...

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: I am still waiting for you to send the Sheriff to get me...

David Amos  

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I already made a few calls and sent an email and got some interesting computer generated responses that i will publish you know where

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Marc Martin: He's so full of himself with his airs of grandeur. He thinks he's the second coming of both J.J. Robinette and Einstein.

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @David Amos: You can publish whatever you like wherever you want.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: The funniest thing he thinks he is above the law.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: He also managed to harass a few poor Marc Martin across the province thinking it was me...

David Amos  

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: You know i do Now I am on a mission to find out exactly who you truly are

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: I just talked to one and he admitted knowing who I was before I sent him and the RCMP the same email

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Good for you, unfortunately I can confirm he is not the right Marc Martin.

 

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: Stop bothering the RCMP over trivial matters. They have better things to do.

David Amos  

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks there is an old saying "Never believe anything until it is officially denied" Hence I will wait for a while until the Crown satisfies my demands or I will have every reason to sue it AGAIN thanks to your obvious malice N'esy Pas?

David Amos  

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: You tell them for me i Double Dog Dare Ya

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: I am still waiting.....By the way didn't you tell me that last year ?

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @David Amos: Why tell them what they already know?

David Amos  

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks the RCMP know as well as I why I save everything especially before I ran for Parliament again and afterwards I most important words of yours in particular always go "Poof" Hence it was not rocket science to figure out who you work for N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Again your making no sense, understandable English pls.

David Amos  

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Exactly Methinks you lawyer pals know as well as I that is why I must sue the Crown again threee judges in the Federal Court of Appeal admitted in writing that I gave the RCMP wiretap tapes of the mob and they have done nothing since N'esy Pas?

David Amos  

Reply to @Marc Martin: In Simple English Anyone can Google the following like you did last year Correct?

David Amos wiretap 

 

David Amos 
Reply to @Marc Martin: Has the cat got your tongue? Methinks you should check out my blog soon if only to see who got the email about you strange SANB dudes N'esy Pas? 


Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Robert G. Holmes:
anti-francophone trope
























Guy Richard
Higgs doesn't need the French vote to win a majority.


Marc Martin 

Reply to @Guy Richard: K if you say so..

Marguerite Deschamps  

Reply to @Guy Richard: Not all Anglophones are anti-French like you are.

David Amos 

Reply to @Guy Richard: Dream on

Greg Smith

Reply to @Guy Richard: Did you even read the article? He does need the rural vote however, which he essentially just cost himself.

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Guy Richard: Agreed. All Higgs has to do to win a landside election is to have a platform based on eliminating duality in NB. According to Marc and Marg he has lost the french vote anyway, so what does he have to lose?

David Amos 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Methinks you a few bricks shy of a load N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: He can eliminate duality in hospital but not in school, its mandatory across Canada.

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Marc Martin: The hospital is a great place to start. It is by far our biggest expense.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: No its not, the merger would only save a few executive salary and the cost to merge the whole system would cost more in the end you can expect lower staff to do double work.

Fred Brewer
Reply to @Marc Martin: Dr. Édouard Hendriks, Horizon's vice-president of medical, academic and research affairs, Dr. France Desrosiers, Vitalité's vice-president of medical, services, training and research, and Vitalité CEO Gilles Lanteigne made between $275,000 and $299,999.Horizon CEO Karen McGrath was one bracket lower, earning between $250,000 and $274,999.
This is just a small sample of the huge salaries that are duplicated in our two health care systems. When you add up the salaries of senior management, the boards of directors, support staff, office space, purchasing departments etc all of which are DUPLICATED, it is not hard to see how tens of millions per year could be saved by having only one health care system. How can you possibly claim to know how much it would cost to merge the two systems Marc? You cannot know that.


David Amos

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Cry me a river while I wait for the "Stay" to be removed from my Medicare card Hence i have to pay these dudes for what my taxpayer funds have already provided for

Brian Robertson
New Brunswick's French population, the SANB and the Liberal Party are virtually synonymous.
The only thing that the PCs could do to win French support is to do what Hatfield did, and turn the Party into a carbon copy of the Liberals. And we all know how that turned out.
Mitt Romney famously said that 46% of Americans were simply not going to vote for him because he was a Republican.
Blaine Higgs needs to realize that nothing he can do will win over New Brunswick's French. He should resign himself to that and just do what is best for the Province.
  

David Amos 

Reply to @Brian Robertson: Trust that not all the French folks support the SANB

Marc Martin

Reply to @Brian Robertson: K if you say so....

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: But they do support bilingualism as most Anglophones do.

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Are you certain? If so then get a real name and come to court and argue me

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Sure, but not duality.

Roy Nicholl

Reply to @Fred Brewer:
You do know that the "great duality cull" we keep reading about in these comment sections would be more of a whimper than a bang from a fiscal perspective. You are still going to need schools and hospitals in all parts of the province capable of serving the citizens. You will still need a comparable number of resource and support personnel to back those schools and hospitals.

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Roy Nicholl: Agreed but the huge cost of salaries for double boards of directors, CEO's upper management and their office space, support staff not to mention supply and services savings are significant.

David Amos 

Reply to @Roy Nicholl: I see that you are man of many issues too

Jason Inness
So, what this analysis is showing is that the francophone population won't accept changes to the health system at all. So, when the system is finally bankrupt, devoid of employees, and the hospitals everywhere are no longer accepting patients, what will the next step be? Government resources have a limit, and I would argue that we are already surpassing that limit.


David Amos  

Reply to @Jason Inness: Methinks its not wise to believe everything you read N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin

Reply to @Jason Inness: Sussex and Perth Andover are French ? 

 

Michael durant
Fleming is an incompetent in Health. He needs be forced to resign or fired.


David Amos 

Reply to @Michael durant: YUP

David Peters

Reply to @Michael durant:
Fleming put forward a plan that came from the existing Healthcare administrators. It's what they said they needed to do to make the entire system more sustainable.

Still, healthcare, overall, would be better, fast and cheaper if it were only between doctors and patients, imo.

Mack Leigh
Poor, poor Jacques Poitras ! His " Liberal " is showing yet again... Just another piece slanted in the hopes of garnering more Liberal support... Remember Gallant ? Remember Graham ? This province has had more than enough Liberal governments to last a lifetime.


David Amos

Reply to @Mack Leigh: YUP

Marc Martin

Reply to @Mack Leigh: I have had enough of incompetent CoRservatives so what do you sugest ?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you know as well as i that I suggested that if Higgy were a wiseguy he would have fired you a long time ago N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Amos: That's why he does not listen to you, he would have fired the wrong guy...

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Nope

Archie Levesque

Reply to @Marc Martin: What is a CORservative? Is that the same as an SANB Liberal but just a different color?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Then call/write to him again .

Marc Martin

Reply to @Archie Levesque: They are affiliated with PANB you should know this...

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Why not send a sheriff to your home to serve a summons?

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Marc Martin: Green or Purple would be a good choice.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Go ahead...

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: I would vote green, but for you to sugest I vote for an anti-French group is hilarious.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: *Why not send a sheriff to your home to serve a summons?* I am still waiting....

Mack Leigh
There are " wasteful layers of administration " in both Vitalite and Horizon and as such they must both be dealt with.. A great place to start would be to amalgamate the heauth authorities into one. Another great place to start would be doing away with unrealistic, unattainable, unsustainable language requirements and reinstate " bilingual where numbers warrant " as was the original intent..

Marc Martin

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Please show me numbers where you would save money by removing bilingual services ?

David Amos

Reply to @Mack Leigh: I concur

Mack Leigh

Reply to @Marc Martin: Need to get your eyes checked ole boy since I said nothing about " removing " bilingual services.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Mack Leigh: *reinstate " bilingual where numbers warrant "* Ok then how will this save money ? Please show me the numbers. 

 

Lou Bell
So what Jacques is saying the Conservatives won't be getting the support from the Ridings they never had in the first place ! But they may pick up the Saint John seat , as well as several others after the Phonie Games fiasco ! People are smart enough to not forget !

Marc Martin

Reply to @Lou Bell: You sound like a scared CoRservative...

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks everybody knows you are just another desperate SANB/liberal dude who should be working right now N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Amos: Are you still emailing these poor Marc Martin across the province ?

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Ask Higgy

Dan Lee

Reply to @Lou Bell:
Poor lou...1 trick donkey
psst don't forget Lord s Orimulsion fiasco.......Alward 1 billion lost on Pointe lepreau....Alward 40 million for toll in Saint john harbour..........our poor forest given for nothing to Irving...sad......

Cleve Gallant
Remember that license plate that said ‘Be in this place “ Wasn’t that another B,S,,statement from the liberals?


David Amos 

Reply to @Cleve Gallant: Methinks the SANB dudes and their liberal cohorts know that is why I often call New Brunswick "The Place to Be" N'esy Pas?

Lou Bell
I'd have expected Jacques would have written more articles on the 130 Million Dollar Phonie Games Giveaway that the Liberals had planned , and yet was never in their election platform ! It's not gonna disappear ! 130 Million Dollars , TWICE the Atcon Giveaway !


David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Dream on

Dan Lee 

Reply to @Lou Bell:
but never as much as Alward loss 

 

Lou Bell
When 16 ridings would vote for a horse if it was a Liberal Francophone , losing 100 % of the votes they don't get now won't hurt the Conservatives one bit . Another " spin " piece and nothing more .


Marc Martin 

Reply to @Lou Bell: You didn't know that Robert Gauvin was the only reason why Higgs got in power ?

Lou Bell 

Reply to @Marc Martin: And you think Vickers is there for any other reason than an attempt to get the Anglophone vote and put the SANB Liberals back in power ? Ain't gonna happen ! That 130 Million Dollar Giveaway will be their doom and gloom ! And what again was their Healthcare Plan ?? Nahda !!

Marc Martin

Reply to @Lou Bell: *SANB Liberals * I am still tryingto figure this out...It doesn't even make sense.

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you should try having the former SANB President Kevin Arsenault explain it to you real slow N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Amos: Isn't Kevin Arsenault a Green party rep ??? Your making even less sense.

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Marc Martin said: " I am still trying to figure this out..."

Let me spell it out for you then. When the Acadian Party finally collapsed, its members migrated over to the Liberal Party in huge numbers. Thus, the Liberal Party is in effect the Acadian Party under a different name and they of course fully support SANB. Did I make myself clear enough?

Cleve Gallant 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Exactly nothing makes sense to the liberals,That’s the problem,

Marc Martin

Reply to @Fred Brewer: So where did the CoR party members go ?

Marc Martin

Reply to @Cleve Gallant: Whop says I am a Liberal ?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you and everybody else knows about the Green Party and Liberal coalition N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: I do

Cleve Gallant 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: It’s a lost cause trying to explain anything to Marc,Some people don’t want to hear the truth,

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Isn't that what political party do ? For example CoRservatives joined PANB because of their anti-French rhetoric's.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: *I do * No one cares.

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Everybody knows I always run as as an Independent because I don't care what political gangs do. They have no standing within our constitution. Methinks even their mindless spin doctors must admit that simple fact N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: You do

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Again, no one cares...Your 15 votes per year for 7 years don't count.

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you forgot to ask Higgy why I ran in 2004 and 2006 N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Amos: Why would I do that ?

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Marc Martin: So where did the CoR party members go ? Nice deflection, but I made no representation about COR. You asked the question about the connection between SANB and the Liberals so I answered. Deflection won't work here Marc.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Its not a deflection its actually what happened they went to the CoRservatives and a few to PANB.

David Peters

Reply to @Marc Martin:
Not everyone agrees that the bilingualism, entitlement program is a good idea. Imo, that's what it boils down to.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Peters: *entitlement program * How is that ? What service do I have you don't in NB ? 

 

David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks a lot of folks know the score about SANB/liberal spin doctors and their malicious nonsense by now N'esy Pas?








































Cleve Gallant
The liberals caused this mess and now they’re upset with Higgs because he hasn’t got a magic wand to make things better,


Marc Martin 

Reply to @Cleve Gallant: Yeah blame it on the Liberals...The Liberals didn't go with the recommendations tough now did they?

Cleve Gallant 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Some people are scared to hear the truth,Now that’s a proven fact especially with SANB,

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Cleve Gallant: What does SANB have to do with this ?

Archie Levesque 

Reply to @Marc Martin: So you prefer the Liberal solution of - do nothing and hope it resolves itself?

Cleve Gallant 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Duh,Try everything that that has to do with duplication,

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Cleve Gallant: How about closing 1 hospital in Moncton for then night, its not like they are busy anyways they have a 2 hr wait compared to other regions.

Cleve Gallant 

Reply to @Marc Martin: You should really do your research before stating something, Two hour wait? Try eight to twelve hour wait thanks to the liberals,

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Cleve Gallant: I know people who live in Moncton its a known fact they don't need the second hospital at night lets save money !!!

Cleve Gallant  

Reply to @Marc Martin: Than close the DUMONT,Maybe that will make you happy,

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Cleve Gallant: Oh I see, so your are for closing every hospitals that are French oriented, that explains all.

Cleve Gallant 

Reply to @Marc Martin: English the universal language of the world, That must be hard for you to swallow,

Mack Leigh 

Reply to @Marc Martin: All hospitals in this province are " French oriented " and that is in and of itself a large part of the problem..Incessant pandering to one group where only 3 to 5 % do not speak English is absolutely ludicrous and an blatant waste of taxpayers money that would be well spent elsewhere.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Mack Leigh: I live in Fredericton they don't even have French services at front, so obviously you have no idea what your talking about. *blatant waste of taxpayers money that would be well spent elsewhere. * And ? Where are these numbers ? How much money would be saved ?

David Amos

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Methinks Marc Baby is a very nervous camper today N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Mack Leigh: *You are more than capable of addressing non-francophones in English so what is the problem* I cannot have the same rights then you do ? What if someone only spoke to you in French ? *your German ? Your Arabic ? Your Korean ?* We are in Canada where there is only 2 official languages.

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Amos: Yeah I am so nervous......I do feel entertained that I have triggerd a bunch here .

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: How many other Marc Martins do you know who are camped in Fat Fred City?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Why would you ask me ? I don't go around and stalk people under false pretentions.

Mack Leigh 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Oh, did not realize that German was being included as a " Official " language.

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Its not, only French and English are. There is a solution for you there is a whole country that speaks German.....

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Did you just libel me again?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin ?

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you will know for certain if I opt to serve you a summons in person because the cops won't do their job You cannot deny that libel is a criminal act under section 300 N'esy Pas? 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Go ahead...I am waiting.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: I am still waiting....

Marc Martin  

Reply to @David Amos: Davis ? 


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: The Fred police tried to stick a similar one on Chucky LeBlanc. We all know how that one ended.


David Amos

Content disabled 
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Who do you thinks stopped that 301 nonsense and reminded them of section 300? Methinks if you SANB dudes knew how to research then you would know everybody and his dog knows Trust that it was me and NOT the Canadian Civil Liberties Association that proved how dumb Booby Baby Costello (That punk grew up in Sussex while the RCMP were to hiring me to investigate things) and his buddies in the Fat Fred City Finest were. I knew about the 301/300 stuff because of my doings with Byron Prior on the Rock many years before anyone can Google it to verify N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I am the dude who fixed that nonsense everybody knows that 

Lou Bell

C'mon Jacques , everyone knows Gauvin was nothing more than a Liberal / SANB plant. No one really had any faith or trust in him from the get go. And the Liberal plan ?? NOTHING ! 

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Wrong

Joseph Vacher

The liberals had no money to help the dying health care system, but they had $130M for the Francophone Games

Mack Leigh

Reply to @Joseph Vacher: Along with millions to spend on forced frenchification, forced social engineering and the marginalization of all others who are not of the " Elite " status.. Add to that the millions wasted on trying to recruit immigrants from french speaking countries only in another effort to pad their numbers.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Mack Leigh: *Along with millions to spend on forced frenchification* were do you take your numbers from? *trying to recruit immigrants from french speaking countries only in another effort to pad their numbers* They only recruit French and English immigrants are you saying they are trying to bolster English numbers as well?

David Amos

Reply to @Joseph Vacher: Oh So True

Lou Bell

Jacques failed to point out the figures as to why the changes were being made ! When you have 3 or 4 people visiting Emerg every 10 hours and are paying people to service this many , then someone REALLY , REALLY !! needs to smarten up !! The Liberals sure weren't gonna do it ! But they had 130 million for the Phonie Games !!!!!!! 

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks to be fair perhaps Jacques should point how many things you failed to mention over the years N'esy Pas?

Jeff LeBlanc

I really am starting to think NB shouldn't get to be a province anymore. Let whomever wants to join Quebec do so and Nova Scotia can swallow up the rest. What a poor, mismanaged, divisive, almost bankrupt little hole it has become. It's not even funny anymore, just sad.


Marc Martin 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: We all know were your gonna move too...Maybe you should do it now ?

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Feredericton...so I can teach you grammar and how to spell.

 

 

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: *Feredericton* Sure....

 

 

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: *Feredericton* Or maybe its a real place in NB ?

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @Marc Martin: you get triggered so easily Haha. Anyway Marc Martin from Pointe Verte by way of Freddy I bid you good day.

 

 

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Not at all...I am polite I just reply to all your comments. by the way aren't you from Moncton ? You posted this *Jeff LeBlanc

1 hour ago

Reply to @Marc Martin: Moncton is southeast NB...we are with SJ and Freddy sorry. * ...............

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @Marc Martin: there is a difference between an obvious typo and not knowing how to spell. But hey give an inch and they take a mile, I get it.

 

 

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: So your making a typo and I am making a grammar mistake...I guess you made a mistake first from saying your from Moncton, then *Feredericton* and now your from Pointe Verte...

 

 

Jim Cyr 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: It truly is a pathetic province.

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Methinks you know Marcy Baby as well as I N'esy Pas?

Samual Johnston

is this a news piece or an opinion piece? The headline is like an ad paid for by the liberals.


Archie Levesque

Reply to @Samual Johnston: Mr Poitras & Mr Wherry both graduated from the Liberal School of Media Relations

 

 

Jim Cyr

Reply to @Samual Johnston: It's in the "news" section, but it's just an opinion-piece, hit job.

 

 

David Peters

Reply to @Samual Johnston:
Imo, it's not like a liberal attack ad, it is a liberal attack ad....and it's far from the first one, too.

Which brings to mind campaign financing laws...

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Samual Johnston: I agree

 

 

Mack Leigh 

Reply to @David Peters: Let us not forget the Liberals track record. They are an entitled, entity unto themselves and feel that they are above the law.. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alex Leblanc
It was the biggest blunder to announce this and not do it, because they have to still pay the price regardless. I hope that they are treated well in the election because if not the next party to make a decision like this will never reconsider the choice like the PCs did. (Still a calculated risk they may of thought it was better to soften, but if the election backfires you can imagine there will be no softening on similar reforms.)


David Amos 

Reply to @Alex Leblanc: Methinks everybody agree the next election is gonna be a dilly of a circus N'esy Pas?

SarahRose Werner
Would it save money to hold the provincial election and the municipal elections at the same time, or would it just be too confusing for everyone?

Mack Leigh

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: It would save on the cost of buying lipstick for the Liberals ..

 

 

David Amos 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I agree Why not save money and time> Furthermore perhaps more folks would vote

David Stairs
total lack of common sense and hell bent on making this province part of Quebec...that's the Acadian way.....thanks for nothing...let's not try to be debt free....


Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @David Stairs: I resent the Acadian comment, it's not the Acadian way. It's a really vocal minority of self considered francophone elites who seem to always get their way when they start squawking. Why this province always caves is beyond me. Grow a backbone already NB would ya!

 

 

Tom Simmons 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: I thought diversity was strength

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @Tom Simmons: it can be, this province is nowhere near ready to embrace that concept though. Way too divided.

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Stairs: What does Quebec have to do with NB?

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc  

Reply to @Marc Martin: he said some people are hell bent on making NB part of PQ...what's so hard to comprehend? His post was super easy to understand.

 

 

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: No one is trying to make NB part of NB, its all pure imagination.

 

 

Mack Leigh

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Agree with you to a point however the only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good people to stay silent and keep voting Liberal.

 

 

David Amos 

Reply to @Mack Leigh: Relax Mr Leblanc is jerking the mindless SANB spin doctor's chain like you are Methinks its rather obvious that i am having fun throwing my two bits worth into the the this circus as well N'esy Pas/

Gary Melanson
Sabotaged by the civil service hell bent on keeping the government unstable. Bad advice by the CEOs of the health authorities. Get rid of them. Reduce the layers of executives and administrators in the health authorities. Immediately!!
 

David Amos 

Reply to @Gary Melanson: I concur However they should do that ONLY after Higgy and his minions remove the "Stay" on my Medicare Card.

Methinks anyone should understand why I am sick and tired of paying the emergency room and doctor fees that my taxpayer funds already paid for N'esy Pas?

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: We don't care...

 

 

Lou Bell 

Reply to @David Amos: Still about you .

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Who is we?

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Of course Methinks you cannot deny that I am the one without the Medicare card that Higgy wants the cops to arrest N'esy Pas?

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Everyone except your 15 voters? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lauchlin Murray
1. Why is there no photo credit for the third picture, while the other pictures have photo credits? Has the CBC ever had legal problems regarding incorrect photo credits and who pays to settle those legal suits?
2. CBC uses ‘per cent’ NOT ‘percent’. So why not follow CBC’s own style? Has this been pointed out before? How many times?
“Given 16 out of 49 ridings are majority francophone, and another five have at least 20 percent francophone populations, the Tories will enter a campaign with a serious handicap, Ouellette said.”
3. Again, same problem:
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University of Moncton political scientist Roger Ouellette says given 16 out of 49 ridings are majority francophone, and another five have at least 20 percent francophone populations, the Tories will enter a campaign with a serious handicap. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)
How many errors should you be allowed? Are the facts even correct?


David Amos 

Reply to @Lauchlin Murray: I repeat Who Cares? What are you a retired English teacher with way too much time on his hands?

Methinks you should be far more concerned about the issues rather than how they are presented N'esy Pas?

 

 

David Peters

Reply to @Lauchlin Murray:
"Has the CBC ever had legal problems regarding incorrect photo credits and who pays to settle those legal suits?"

Great question, but you can only win in suing the gov't if the gov't lets you. It's political.

Yet another reason why media shouldn't be monopolized like it has, imo.

 

 

Mack Leigh 

Reply to @Lauchlin Murray: " Are the facts even correct " ? Remember you are speaking about an article written by Jacques Poitras who has his own agenda and bleeds red at all times. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John Pokiok

This was best option this province ever had. We need minority government every time the liberal and conservative are so used to to rule with majority that neither one of them ever did anything for the people. History shows that minority government do better job to help people in general than to pander to one side only. If you bring election back I'm definitely voting for People Alliance of NB.


David Amos  

Reply to @John Pokiok: Methinks you should listen to the brief encounter I had with the PANB leader on live Rogers TV last week before you vote for one of his crew N'esy Pas?

 

 

John Pokiok 

Reply to @David Amos: me thinks that I don't care what you think because you are quite opinionated across every board.

 

 

David Amos 

Reply to @John Pokiok: Why is it that nothing surprises me anymore?

Bryan Jones

Higgs went into the 2018 election with one handicap: the Liberal friendly reporting of the non impartial CBC.

Larry Larson

Reply to @Bryan Jones: Oh drift!

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Bryan Jones: Methinks that is not the only handicap Higgy had. I believe his biggest one was his personal history of being a former wannabe CoR Party leader. That fact helped the SANB to attack him then and they continue to this very day N'esy Pas?

David Peters

Might be time to start considering dividing the province.


Johnny Horton

Reply to @David Peters:
It’s a game of patience, elected officials are based on riding, which is based on population, soms. Arian d exists, but you can only stretch that variance so much before you need to readjust,
The North is losing population faster than the south, they will not always have paroty in seats,

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Peters: Sure south part can keep Fredericton and Saint John and North part will keep Moncton.

 

 

Johnny Horton  

Reply to @Marc Martin:
You can have Moncton and the albatross scenic centre. We take riverview though. Where the stuck money is the area is,

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @David Peters: Methinks you PANB buddies would like nothing better N'esy Pas?

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc

Reply to @Marc Martin: Moncton is southeast NB...we are with SJ and Freddy sorry.

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: Moncton and Dieppe is over 55% French so sorry no deal.

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc 

Reply to @Marc Martin: you're point being?

 

 

Noah Hathaway  

Reply to @Marc Martin: 50% English-Only in Moncton (46% Bilingual). Dieppe is 75% french. 90% English in Riverview. Basically the GMA is 55% English so sorry, no deal.

 

 

Marc Martin

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: That you don't decide for the 55%

 

 

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Noah Hathaway: Riverview is not Moncton.

 

 

Jeff LeBlanc

Reply to @Marc Martin: thank sweet baby Jesus you don't get to decide either. Ok enough of this stupid hypothetical convo, I'll go back to work and you go back to hating on the English. Enjoy the day!

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Jeff LeBlanc: *David Peters
2 hours ago

Might be time to start considering dividing the province. *

I didn't propose this your English counter part did, I dont hate the English in fact I'm sure I have more English friends then you actually know French people...

 

 

David Peters

Reply to @Marc Martin:
I'm not English.

Given the nature of how divided NB is, in reality, it seems like an obvious possible solution...especially if elections continue to generate the same results. Would liberate both sides, imo.

 

 

Noah Hathaway 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Neither is Dieppe

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Noah Hathaway: Yeah but I didn't include an English community you did include a French one.

 

 

David Peters

Reply to @Marc Martin:
Wonder what the polling numbers are on your form of identity politics...

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Peters: I think they look pretty good, I think its funny you would want Moncton, Saint John and Fredericton will the province took the taxe payers money up North to centralize everything in these regions.

 

 

David Peters

Reply to @Marc Martin:
It's not a desirable scenario, but it may be unavoidable/preferable given the reality of how entrenched both sides have become. This way, after the divide, decentralization can occur, if that's what is locally wanted.

 

 

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Peters: Well you have no choice since we wont be a province anymore...You also wont need all these Federal government jobs around these cities they can move back up north.

 

 

David Peters

Reply to @Marc Martin:
You're assuming the existing bloated bureaucracy is sustainable. That may not be a safe assumption.

 

 

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Peters: It has been for at least the last 80 years and these number grow year after year, Harper tried to remove some and look what happened with Phoenix pay system, instead of saving 75 million over 10 year we are on the hook for over 1 billion so far.

 

 

David Peters

Reply to @Marc Martin:
Phoenix was undermined by the liberal long gun registry bureaucracy...but, imo, the red/blue stall is only sustainable for so long.

Not everyone wants depend on civil servant warehouses and a financial bubble. Imo, would be more responsible to get back to sound money, where ppl are encouraged to get out and produce a product or service.

 

 

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Peters: *Phoenix was undermined by the liberal long gun registry bureaucracy* WRONG, The Phoenix system was bought by the Harper government in order to lay off 3000+ pay advisors, when the Liberals took power they had no choice to roll out the program since Harpers government already laid off the pay advisors. Now Phoenix does not work, 1 billion + in cost so far ( not counting all the law suits against the government) and the problem is not fixable, they now have a back log of over 250 000 cases and they had to re-hire most pay advisors..

 

 

David Peters

Reply to @Marc Martin:
you left out the part where the long gun registry bureaucracy was moved over to manage the phoenix pay system, after the long gun registry was scrapped. That same bureaucracy obviously undermined the Conservative initiative for political reasons.

Nice try in re-writing history, though

 

 

David Peters

Reply to @Marc Martin:
Those kinds of shenanigans are what you want to defend?

Would be more responsible to end centralized banking, get back to sound $ and encourage ppl to produce things and service instead, imo

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Peters: What are you even talking about, the Harper government bought that program (even tough they knew it failed in Australia) to implement it in government services in order to cut over 3000+ civil servant, it was part of their plan to cut 30 000 civil servants across Canada. Your talking of a subject you know nothing about. 

 

David Amos

Reply to @David Peters: Methinks you PANB and SANB space cadets went on quite roll N'esy Pas? 

Johnny Horton

That’s okay. There’s almost as much reciprocated contempt in the south for the SANB liberals

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Johnny Horton: *SANB liberals* What are SANB Liberals ?

 

 

Johnny Horton 

Reply to @Marc Martin:
The liberals Thst keep funding ATCON and wild things like $100m games

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Johnny Horton: But how are the 2 related ? *The liberals Thst keep funding ATCON * ATCON or Irving there is a difference ? *and wild things like $100m games* They funded the games ?

 

 

Graeme Scott 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Yes there is a difference. The Irvings run successful businesses that employ 10's of thousands of New Brunswickers year after year..........Atcon was a ponzi scheme run by friends of the Graham government.

 

 

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Cry me a river

 

 

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Graeme Scott: So your ok with losing billions in forest allocation and the closure of thousands of jobs during that time because of the Irvings?

 

 

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: I don't have too your good at that..Probably the only thing your good at..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Graeme Scott

Other than vague platitudes I haven't seen any proposals from Mr Vickers and the Liberals on this subject. Like the choices or not, at least Mr Higgs is trying to do something about the situation. Modern healthcare is getting more complex and expensive as new treatments/types of care emerge and demand grows with our aging population. The 1950's model of a hospital in every little town and every corner of this small province is both outdated from a medical point of view and unsustainable financially. The status quo can not continue.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Graeme Scott:
Yes, the actual costs of healthcare are increasing, but so to is the cost of politicians parking their friends, neighbours, and relatives, in administrative positions that contribute very little to the overall results. Without trimming out the pork, everything else, on offer, is only empty gestures.

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you should never forget the cost of keeping dudes in the ECO such as Kevin Cormier and his buddy Minister Cardy well stocked with butter tarts N'esy Pas? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

David Peters
What if the election produces the same result, over and over again?

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @David Peters:
Our best chance for good governance is a minority government.

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: YUP

 

 

Once considered industry friendly, New Brunswick's auto insurance regulator is pushing back

February 28, 2020, 1:04 am

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Methinks folks should ask Mr Duff and Mr Woodside of the New Brunswick Insurance Board why I have read enough of this malicious nonsense N'esy Pas?


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Once considered industry friendly, New Brunswick's auto insurance regulator is pushing back

Wawanesa is asking for two rate increases in 2020, but will have to get by NB's Insurance Board

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Feb 25, 2020 5:00 AM AT



Wawanesa is New Brunswick's largest auto insurance company and covers 77,000 vehicles. It increased rates 8.6 per cent in January but wants a second increase of 12.42 per cent in July. The amount needs the approval of the New Brunswick Insurance Board.


A rare request from New Brunswick's largest auto insurer for two rate increases this year is legal, but it will likely face intense scrutiny at the province's insurance board which has quietly been shedding its one-time reputation of being industry friendly.

The Wawanesa Mutual Insurance Company covers 77,000 private passenger cars in New Brunswick and raised rates just last month by an average of 8.6 per cent. It is now seeking permission to impose another 12.42 per cent increase on customers on July 1.

The company says it paid out $1.21 in claims and expenses in New Brunswick last year for every $1 its customers paid in premiums and has nowhere to go for the money to close that gap except to policyholders.

"We are not publicly traded and do not have shareholders," said Wawanesa's Brad Hartle in an email to CBC News.

• Auto insurers sought 'the big increase' after avoiding insurance board for years, says advocate

• Companies blame distracted drivers, complex cars as auto insurance increases pile up

But applying for an auto insurance rate hike in New Brunswick lately has been no guarantee of receiving it.

Marie-Claude Doucet is Chair of the New Brunswick Insurance Board and said Wawanesa's attempt to win a second rate hike in 2020 is "not usual" but is permissible and will be the subject of a full hearing.

"The board has authority over proposed rate changes by [auto] insurers," said Doucet.

"It takes a lot of resources from the insurance company to apply twice in a year so it's not typical but it does happen."

No rubber stamping

Doucet was appointed to run the insurance board in late 2016 just as financial results of insurers began sagging across Canada and her organization has dealt with a parade of companies applying for significant rate hikes in the wake of those troubles.

During her tenure, the board has granted some of the increases requested by companies in full but it has also knocked a number of them down following detailed reviews and hearings.

In 2018 the board slashed a proposed 18.2 per cent increase in rates to New Brunswick's highest risk drivers to 6.2 per cent after finding faults in the rate application by the non-profit industry collective that handles bad drivers, known as the Facility Association.

In 2019 the group returned and asked for a 22.3 per cent increase, but the board found problems again and awarded 14.4 per cent.

New Brunswick's third-largest insurer Intact, had a combined 7.4 percentage points shaved off its last two requested increases in 2017 and 2019 and last month, New Brunswick's second-largest insurer, Economical, was approved for a 6.1 per cent increase. That was barely half of the 11.9 per cent it had asked for.



Michele Pelleiter, New Brunswick's Consumer Advocate for insurance, says the current insurance board has issued a number of decisions that benefit consumers including a decision last month allowing Economical Insurance just half the rate increase it requested for 2020 (Maggie MacPherson/CBC)


In all five of those cases the hearings were conducted by three-person panels headed by Doucet. She also wrote the final decision in each case, a sign of how she has taken charge of the organization.

In 2019 the board held a record 27 hearings, 16 related to private passenger car insurance most of which Doucet conducted personally

"If I am able to handle the workload yes I absolutely sit in on the hearings as long as there are no conflicts," said Doucet who has a psychology degree, a law degree and a masters of business administration degree.

Michele Pelletier is New Brunswick's Consumer Advocate for Insurance and says although companies have been winning some substantial rate hikes from the insurance board, policyholders have been getting fair treatment at hearings under Doucet with decisions sometimes in their favour.

"I think she has the respect of all the parties," said Pelletier.

Previous administration

That's a shift from the insurance board's early years when it appeared to be tilted toward the interests of insurance companies under its former chair, Paul D'Astou.

In 2010 New Brunswick's office of the Attorney General challenged two rulings of the insurance board under D'Astou at the New Brunswick Court of Appeal. It argued the body was allowing companies to earn too much profit, limiting questions that could be asked of companies during rate applications and giving no reasons for decisions it made.

The Appeal Court ruled in the Attorney General's favour in each case.

In 2013 the insurance board found more controversy for soliciting donations from insurance companies to support its annual golf tournament fundraiser.

The event allowed companies the board regulates to buy advertisements on golf holes in support of the board's chosen charity and have company representatives play in the tournament alongside board members in exchange for an entry fee.



Paul D'Astou is currently principal secretary to Premier Blaine Higgs but ran New Brunswick's insurance board until 2015. During his term the board sparred with the office of the attorney general which argued insurance companies were being allowed to make too much money. (CBC)


There have been no similar incidents under Doucet.

In a statement Monday, New Brunswick's Office of the Attorney General, which intervenes in rate hearings with lawyers and actuarial experts on behalf of the public said it has been able to win lower auto insurance rates from the board than companies have requested 11 times since 2017, around the time Doucet took over.

"Over several years of intervention on behalf of the public interest, the Attorney General has been successful in achieving lower rates for automobile policyholders in many cases," said spokesperson for the office of the attorney general Paul Bradley.

The board currently has several decisions pending from hearings it held earlier this winter including an application for a 50 per cent auto insurance rate hike from Sonnett and a 51 per cent increase from Echelon

A hearing into Wawanesa's application for a second rate increase for 2020 is likely later this spring.

About the Author

Robert Jones

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 

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David Amos
Methinks folks should ask Mr Duff and Mr Woodside of the New Brunswick Insurance Board why I have read enough of this malicious nonsense N'esy Pas? 


























Chantal LeBouthi
The Wawanesa Mutual Insurance Company with $3 billion in annual revenue and assets of more than $9 billion


David Amos  

Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Methinks folks would get a hoot if they could listen to the voicemail I just left with Wawanesa Mutual Insurance Company's Senior Vice President, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary N'esy Pas? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

David Amos
Methinks Michele Pelletier, the Attorney General and the Wawanesa Mutual Insurance Company should recall my concerns about New Brunswick being a "no fault jurisdiction way back in 2007 N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: FYI the lawyer Michele Pelletier just called me but I have no proof of contact because she called from a private number Mr jones should go Figure why she would do such a thing

Bruce Martin
Instead of complaining about rate rises why not buy insurance company shares? Intact has been one of the TMX's better performers and pays a good dividend as well. The same rationale works for banks and telcos.


David Amos 

Reply to @Bruce Martin: Methinks we may already own some shares if they are a publicly held company However" Mutual" is a legal term that lawyers love to use for their client's benefit not ours N'esy Pas?

 

 

Mike Miles

Reply to @Bruce Martin: I can promise you that most New Brunswickers don't have the extra income to invest. So yeah speak for yourself. This is just another BS way the people of this province are getting hosed by companies that make millions in profit.

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Bruce Martin: BTW According to the wannabe Yankee president Mr Bloomberg The Wawanesa Mutual Insurance Company ain't selling shares in their questionable company

 

 

David Amos 

Reply to @Mike Miles: I concur

Marc Bourque
Last week I just renewed my car insurance,I never had an accident or a claim....it went up 200.00........


David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Bourque: Methinks you can thank the Insurance Bureau of Canada for that nonsense N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/user-fees-deficit-emergency-services-insurance-1.5477136

Had an accident in Saint John? You may get a bill from the city

Auto insurance policy may or may not cover emergency response fees

Connell Smith· CBC News· Posted: Feb 27, 2020 7:00 AM AT



Firefighters in Saint John responding to an accident. In the near future, out-of-town visitors may be billed for the emergency response. (CBC)


Saint John Council will vote next month on a proposal to charge fees to recover costs for many fire department responses.

One of those charges would see bills mailed to non-residents involved in car accidents inside city limits.

The fees are included in a long list of options under consideration to deal with the city's anticipated $10 million deficits in 2021 and 2022.

Other emergency response fees are being considered for commercial, industrial or institutional fires, hazardous material calls and such things as high angle or water rescues and elevator incidents.

Rothesay body shop owner David Brown thinks the motor vehicle response charge is a bad idea that will only create division between communities, and might even discourage people from calling 911.

"I think that's ridiculous," said Brown, who owns Autobody Plus. "I hope that never passes, anything like that where we start to segregate towns and start to isolate people. We should be light years past that by now."

Saint John deputy chief Rob Nichol says the department currently does not have fees for any emergency service.

But such charges are not unusual in some Canadian provinces.

Ontario and Alberta communities have the option to charge vehicle owners directly or indirectly for responses to motor vehicle accidents.



David Brown of Autobody Plus in Rothesay. "We should be light years past that by now." (Graham Thompson, CBC)


Ontario also pays local fire departments $450 dollars for the first hour for a response to accidents on provincially designated highways.

Those fees are then passed along to the vehicle owner.

Alberta's Safety Codes Act allows municipalities to charge for any emergency service they choose.
For the City of Red Deer, that extends to all emergency responses, even house fires.

In the case of motor vehicle accidents the car owner is charged $615 for the first hour or part hour that emergency responders are on scene, and half that amount for every half hour beyond that.
The fee is the same for both residents and non-residents.

The Insurance Bureau of Canada says many, but not all, motorists in New Brunswick will then be able to pass those fees along to their insurance companies.

"Insurance would cover it if you had collision coverage," said Amanda Dean, the bureau's vice president for the Atlantic region. "It's optional. If it's an older vehicle, you don't necessarily have that coverage."

Leased vehicles, in all cases, would be covered.

But Dean says, if insurers find themselves processing a lot of those claims, it could lead to an increase in car insurance rates.

About the Author

Connell Smith

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Connell Smith is a reporter with CBC in Saint John. He can be reached at 632-7726 Connell.smith@cbc.ca

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David Amos
Methinks the mayor must amaze a lot of folks with each passing day about just how dumb he truly is N'esy Pas?


David Amos 

Reply to @David Amos: However I know of somebody who is even dumber and she speak for the IBC. Methinks somebody should inform the mayor that New Brunswick is a "No Fault" jurisdiction before he falls this BS N'esy Pas?

The Insurance Bureau of Canada says many, but not all, motorists in New Brunswick will then be able to pass those fees along to their insurance companies.

"Insurance would cover it if you had collision coverage," said Amanda Dean, the bureau's vice president for the Atlantic region. "It's optional. If it's an older vehicle, you don't necessarily have that coverage."

 

David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: Better yet methinks the mayor should call Michele Pelleiter, New Brunswick's Consumer Advocate for insurance and ask her about our conversation about the insurance Industry and of my calls Wawanesa's lawyers, NB's Insurance Board on Feb 25th and the proof of my calls and emails to the IBC et al since 2006 which can be found on the Internet N'esy Pas?  




























Johnny Horton
Just yet another reason for new business to set up outside SJ. Potential Employees won’t want to have to travel daily into the city.


David Amos  

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Cry me a river You claim to live in the middle of nowhere and hardly ever come out of the woods even to visit your "Hub" in Sussex. sSo why should you care about the doings in the "Loyalist City" unless you truly are an Irving shill?

Roy Kirk
Seems like the kind of approach that should be adopted on a regional basis, or province-wide. Good for the goose -- good for the gander.


Johnny Horton 

Reply to @Roy Kirk:
Really so through no fault of your own 911 gets called snd you now owe hundreds of dollars...
Yes brilliant plan...q

 

 

David Amos 

Reply to @Roy Kirk: Do you work for the Insurance Bureau of Canada???

 

Assessments — and taxes — going up on 244,000 New Brunswick properties

February 29, 2020, 2:57 pm

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Surprise Surprise Surprise

"JD Irving Ltd. had three mills among the six awarded large property assessment reductions in 2013. Those are now under review but a decision is not expected until later this year"


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Assessments — and taxes — going up on 244,000 New Brunswick properties

Increases to hit 60,000 more properties than last year

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Feb 27, 2020 5:00 AM AT




Service New Brunswick mails out 470,000 property assessment and tax notices every year for March 1st. Property owners should begin receiving them on Monday. (Daniel McHardie/CBC)

About 244,000 New Brunswick properties, including most homes, will be getting assessment and tax increases when bills are mailed out across the province next week but there will be no major changes to pulp and paper mill taxes - at least not yet.

Service New Brunswick's Valerie Kilfoil said a reevaluation of the six mills, requested by Premier Blaine Higgs and anxiously awaited in several communities, will not be complete until later this summer.

"Currently the Heavy Industrial Team is finalizing physical inspection of the mills and are busy analyzing data as it pertains to this industry," Kilfoil said in an email to CBC News.

Service New Brunswick mails 470,000 assessment notices and $1.3 billion in associated tax bills to all New Brunswick property owners every March 1st.

• Taxpayers will have more time to object to changes in property value

• Pulp friction: Property taxes on large mills under review

Only 430,000 of those properties are subject to annual market fluctuations in value (timberland properties have had assessments frozen since 1994) and this year 244,000 of those market based assessments are going up.

It's 60,000 more assessment increases than last year.

According to Service New Brunswick most of the increases are small but 28,000 of the hikes will be five per cent or more.
 
Haut-Madawaska is a collection of several smaller communities in northwestern New Brunswick with 4,000 residents. Assessments there are jumping the most in New Brunswick in 2020 - an average of 6.8 per cent. (Radio-Canada )

The agency also says there are 89,000 properties getting assessment reductions, and 136,000 that will remain unchanged although about 30 per cent of those are forest properties that benefit from an ongoing 26 year old assessment freeze.

Assessment increases in the province, driven by new construction, property improvement and growing market values, will be about $1.5 billion more than decreases and add more than $20 million to property tax bills.

Most of the larger increases will be dispersed throughout the province but one area that can expect a number of them is Haut-Madawaska.  Service New Brunswick conducted a "re-inspection" of properties in the rural northwestern community of 4,000 last year and assessments are increasing by an average of 6.8 per cent.
 
The village of Gagetown saw property values decline following a devastating flood in 2018 that submerged Front street but 2020 assessments are up 4.4 per cent. (Catherine Harrop/CBC)

Also likely to see increases are residents of Gagetown.  The village suffered two straight years of property value declines following extreme flooding along the St. John River in 2018 and 2019 but values — and tax bills — are expected to rebound this year.

Assessments have yet to rebound for the province's six pulp and/or paper mills including two in Saint John and one each in Edmundston, Atholville, Nackawic and Lake Utopia.

In 2013 the group was collectively awarded assessment reductions of $130.7 million by Service New Brunswick because of an international  slump in markets. That saved the group $5.9 million per year in property tax, much of that paid to their host communities.

 
JD Irving Ltd. had three mills among the six awarded large property assessment reductions in 2013. Those are now under review but a decision is not expected until later this year. (CBC)

Last fall Service New Brunswick announced it was reviewing those reductions to see if markets for paper products had improved enough to undo some or all of the tax relief,  an issue of significant interest in the mill communities.

Last week Saint John Liberal MLA Gerry Lowe said he is open to supporting a Higgs government budget if he sees movement on industrial property tax issues and specifically mentioned the 2013 reduction won by mills as a sore point.

In response Premier Higgs said it was he who asked for the review and agreed property taxes should go back up if markets have changed.


 
Saint John Liberal MLA Gerry Lowe has been advocating for higher industrial property taxes but no significant changes are expected when bills go out next week. (Robert Jones/CBC)

"I have said these very words to the department: I want the same conditions looked at that caused those rates to go down and compare markets today," said the premier.

"Whatever conditions were set then and if they're different, then we should be applying that same logic and the rates should change accordingly."

But Kilfoil says the review is still ongoing with the aim of a September 1 completion date.  Any changes the review triggers would not take effect until 2021.

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 

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David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise


























Fred Brewer
Why would Irving Boy ruin his future by raising taxes on Irving mills?


David Amos 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: You know everybody knows the answer so why ask it? 

 

Larry Larson
The rise in assessments is a joke. It has been going on for the last decade and some and NB homeowners are getting shafted bigtime!


David Amos 

Reply to @Larry Larson: Welcome back to the circus

Marguerite Deschamps
The elusive Higgs Boson, the sherriff of Nothingham, working for prince J.D. of Bermuda.


Marc Martin 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Yep.

David Peters 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
How many vacations has Higgs taken since he got in? Zero?

Which direction is the NB debt clock heading this morning?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Peters: *How many vacations has Higgs taken since he got in? Zero?* How would you know that ? Unless your part of his staff or close entourage.

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Cry me a river or tell it to Sheriff Oram

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Amos: I am still waiting for that Sheriff...

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Amos: Make sure you have the right Marc Martin this time..

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David Peters  

Reply to @Marc Martin:
I'm neither, but keep making things up, if it makes you feel better.

Since when is a premier going on vacation a secret?

How many taxpayer funded junkets has Trudeau been on in the same time?

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Father to Zach?

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Buddy of the Mayor Bathurst?

Gary MacKay
Taxing on perceived value is a failed system. Taxing for services is thee only fair system.


David Peters 

Reply to @Gary MacKay:
Yes! Why don't more ppl see that??

The whole idea of a goods and services tax is to do away with all the other hidden taxes and property/income taxes. Sales taxes tax everyone evenly.

Gov't needs to be reformed to cost less, imo.

David Amos

Reply to @David Peters: Methinks its called cognitive dissonance which is what you suffer from as well N'esy Pas?

David Peters  

Reply to @David Amos:
So, now you're a doctor too?

Samual Johnston
"timberland properties have had assessments frozen since 1994"

insane


Marc Martin 

Reply to @Samual Johnston: Why do you think ?

Tom Shultz 

Reply to @Marc Martin:
Inflation.

A 1994 dollar is different than a 2020 dollar.

A frozen assessment is essentially a tax cut in real terms.

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Tom Shultz: Yeah I didn't debate that...

David Amos

Reply to @Samual Johnston: YUP

David Amos

Reply to @Tom Shultz: YUP

 

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Methinks this malicious use of our resources by CBC is blatantly obvious to many folks N'esy Pas?

One month after CBC byway of its local boss Stevey Baby Webb ignored his mandate and failed to report my running for public of for the 7th time, the sneaky little bastard and his buddy Graham Thompson use our media resources to bitch about roads in our neck of the woods. Whereas CBC support LIEbranos bigtime anyone can see that this bullshit was done  in order to embarrass the Conservatives. Clearing CBC is keeping it up to this very day. Obviously I have read enough of this bullshit for any ten and pounced bigtime on all the snobby bastards in my neighbourhood over potholes of all things.

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Methinks the precious few people who voted for me in Fundy Royal since 2004 no doubt appreciated my offering my two bits worth on this topic N'esy Pas? 


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pickwauket-paving-fix-bill-oliver-1.5480118

Fixing Pickwauket Road paving mess 'top priority,' says transportation minister

Hampton-area road chip-sealed last fall, peppered with potholes since

Steven Webb· CBC News· Posted: Feb 29, 2020 10:00 AM AT |



Photos taken this week show just a few of dozens of potholes that pepper the five-kilometre stretch of Hampton-area road. (Steven Webb/CBC)

New Brunswick's transportation minister says a section of new road that barely lasted weeks will be fixed this coming construction season.

But Bill Oliver said it's still hard to say exactly what that solution will entail.

Last October, the province chip-sealed a five-kilometre section of Route 845, known as the Pickwauket Road, just on the outskirts of Hampton.

It became clear to residents pretty quickly that something was wrong.

The paving crews had barely left the scene when potholes began to form.

Resident Mark Blackier told CBC News at the time he wasn't surprised the road was falling apart so quickly.


Mark Blackier lives on the stretch of Route 845 that was chip-sealed in October. He says the road is more dangerous now than before the work was done. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

"There [were] potholes forming while they were actually doing the project," he said. "We knew there were going to be problems, and now we've got potholes almost six to eight inches deep, up to my ankle."

Cause still a mystery

Oliver said Friday the department is beginning preparations for the construction season, and engineers are trying to evaluate exactly why the road hasn't held up.

"From that, we can determine what process we have to go through, whether we have to put a new top on it, or we have to pulverize it again and start from scratch," he said.

But the reason for its rapid deterioration remains a mystery.

Transportation minister Bill Oliver says fixing the road, which is in his riding, is a 'top priority.' (Radio-Canada)

"Look, there's as many theories as there are engineers, almost," Oliver said.

He said the work is under warranty and the contractor will be involved in the process.
Oliver said the road repairs will be "top priority" for the department, adding he hasn't ruled out using asphalt instead of chip seal.

• Hampton-area drivers dodge dozens of potholes a month after road paved

The Department of Transportation and Infrastructure has filled potholes on the road three times in the past three months.

The first time was in late November of last year, just four weeks after the paving crews completed work there.

"The first attempt they just filled the potholes, like, just enough to fill them up. That lasted a week," Blackier said in an interview earlier this week.


Just a month after being chip-sealed, the Pickwauket Road on the outskirts of Hampton exploded with dozens of potholes. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

"So then they came out two weeks later and really did, like, they overpatched the holes, so that fixed the problems right up to about a month ago."

Oliver said that effort worked well because crews were able to use asphalt and not so-called "cold patch."

'Bad as ever'

But two months of traffic and snow removal has returned the road to its pre-patched state.

Ross Morton, who travels the road regularly, chronicled the recent deterioration of the stretch on his Twitter feed.

• Feb.14: "Usual problems on the Pickwauket - May be getting slightly worse."
• Feb 19: "Pickwauket is just sad. Potholes are back & some are big. Take your time."
• Feb 25: "Looks like road works happening on the Pickwauket for some of the potholes."
• Feb 28: "Pickwauket - bad as ever."

DTI crews did show up Feb. 25 to fill holes, but Oliver said they had to use cold patch, which he said is "not very effective."

Blackier said it didn't even last one night.

"So all these holes they patched on Tuesday, they're all wide open again," he said.

"I'm not sure what happened, I can't even imagine, but it looks like someone dropped a bunch of missiles from the sky." Blackier said with a laugh.


The five-kilometre stretch of the recently paved road has warnings to drivers, but residents say even careful driving hasn't saved their vehicles from damage. (Steven Webb/CBC)

But the issue isn't funny for Blackier and other area residents.

A Facebook group set up around the road problems contains a litany of complaints about damage to vehicles over the past few months.

They include bent rims and blown tires, damaged struts and shocks, cracked and chipped windshields and paint jobs ruined by rock chips and tar stains.

Blackier said his own vehicle has a cracked windshield from flying debris.

Some people went to the contractor seeking compensation without success, he said.

'Big disappointment'

So, they're considering other options.

"Right now we're in the process of trying to find a lawyer who will represent us all, to see what we can do," he said.

Oliver, who drives the road regularly, as it is in his riding, said residents have every right to be upset.
"It was certainly never our intention to leave a road in the shape that it's in," he said.

"I mean it's five kilometres of road that's been a concern ever since I've been on the Belleisle, and that's been about 30 years now, and so here we are we finally got a chance to do some work on it and it ended up like this," Oliver said.

"So, it's certainly a big disappointment."

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David Amos
Methinks the precious few people who voted for me in Fundy Royal since 2004 no doubt appreciated my offering my two bits worth on this topic N'esy Pas?







David Amos
Methinks Minister Billy Boy Oliver must know Higgy's buddy Kevin Cormier N'esy Pas?

Kevin Cormier
Reply to @David Amos: "Cry me a river" ...face the facts, not everyone knows your name. MLA/MPs/Councilors get many emails from many people, with the "repeat" complainers and conspiracist being auto sorted to junk mail.







David Amos
Methinks folks should where did the all knowing "Johnny Never Been Good" go since he blamed the kids with their four wheelers for the damage done N'esy Pas?
























Ben DeKraker
Route 114, Fundy Park road. Only road through the park was re surfaced last year after residents and potential vacationers complained incessantly about it.
Now the know all government is allowing over weight trucks on the road. All the way from hwy 1 to Alma.
Thia road will be destroyed this spring!!


David Amos 

Reply to @Ben DeKraker: Of that I have no doubt

Ben DeKraker
How about the 2 bridges at Coles Island. Been down to 1 lane for like 8 years. Many times you can see right through the bridge deck surface to the water below.
Scary.


David Amos  

Reply to @Ben DeKraker: Methinks that is a rather telling issue about how the Red Coats and the Blue Coats don't care about our area but want to spend big bucks twinning Highway 11 N'esy Pas? 

 

Alex Butt
'Big disappointment'. That is pretty much how I describe the pathetic third world roads this province has. The problem is that the government collects ever increasing taxes, collects taxes and taxes on taxes from fuel etc, then designs the roads as cheaply as possible, then awards the contracts to the lowest bidder who in turn does the absolutely least for the most money and the final straw, the province does less than the bare minimum to maintain them. What a complete disgrace.


David Amos   

Reply to @Alex Butt: I agree 

 

Shawn McShane
When the public broadcaster relies on government it is propaganda.


David Amos   

Reply to @Shawn McShane: YUP

 

Shawn McShane
journalism: Who, what, where, when, why, how.
Irving logging trucks and Irving did the chip sealing CBC?


David Amos  

Reply to @Shawn McShane: Go Figure 

 

Charles Waggon
still looks better than most of the roads in Montreal


David Amos  

Reply to @Charles Waggon: and your point is???

Robert Buck
The Engineers probably use a report that was never written!


David Amos 

Reply to @Robert Buck: That sounds like par for the course to me 

 

Johnny Horton
Consult the local kids, and I use the 2020 definition of kids, aka into their thirties, how much they enjoyed 4x4 inn on new seal the night it was laid.

David Amos 

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Reply to @Johnny Horton: Yea Right A typical right wing wacko would blame the kids Their fat tires on light rigging would really tear up a road rather than big trucks hauling logs for your buddies in the Irving Clan. Do tell are you related to the contractor?

David Amos 

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Why is I am not surprised to see my reply go "Poof" again?

Shawn McShane 

Reply to @Johnny Horton: So no logging trucks?

David Amos 

Reply to @Shawn McShane: I pointed it out first but was blocked no doubt because I said where they were going to.

David Amos 

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Reply to @Johnny Horton: Methinks this was interesting comment your buddy sent me out of the blue on the 26th N'esy Pas?

Kevin Cormier
Reply to @David Amos: "Cry me a river" ...face the facts, not everyone knows your name. MLA/MPs/Councilors get many emails from many people, with the "repeat" complainers and conspiracist being auto sorted to junk mail.

David Amos 

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Methinks folks should have found this comment from another buddy of yours interesting too N'esy Pas?

Justin Time
Reply to @David Amos: And they might want to check the results of this famous lawsuit, file A-48-16 in the federal court.

David Amos

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Methinks paragraph 22 is particularly important for your buddy Minister Billy Boy Oliver to review because he has had many of my documents and the same CD since the summer of 2004 when he was the former Speaker Bev Harrison's assistant and the Governor General did acknowledge that fact N'esy Pas?

[22] Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD. He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.

David Amos
Methinks somebody to warn the Minister that spring is coming Hence more flooding and potholes will follow so he should prepare for some serious headaches N'esy Pas? 

























David Amos
Methinks with a possible election over the horizon it should be blatantly obvious why Billy Boy would fix the roads in his neighourhood first N'esy Pas?

Robert Buck

Reply to @David Amos: I take exception to implying there would be favouritism!!(sarcasm noted)

David Amos

Reply to @Robert Buck: Somebody has to because Billy Boy is too dumb to take exception (no sarcasm at all)

Johnny Horton
Late October is pushing the limits of chip seal season. Any slight variance in colder or wetter wewther will wrack havok.

David Amos

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Methinks whereas you claim to never leave your camp why should you care? However I hang my hat in the area and definitely don't need a lawyer like the others say they do N'esy Pas?

David Amos 

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Has the cat got your tongue??? 

 

Michael durant
Time to impose secrecy the New Brunswick way again.


David Amos  

Reply to @Michael durant: Sounds about par for the course 

 

Bob Smith
Interesting that the contractor responsible for the work is not identified by name or asked about the problem for this article.


David Amos 

Reply to @Bob Smith: YUP 

 

Matt Steele
It sounds like it is time for the govt. to hire Engineers who ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING ; it appears that the contractor tried to save a few bucks , and the Govt. Engineers didn't know the difference . It is time for govt. to HIRE the most qualified people , and stop hiring based on NEPOTISM !


David Amos 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks paving roads ain't rocket science. I bet there is a hundred non engineers within 25 miles of that road who can tell us how they screwed up and they would tell us for free. There certainly is no need to hire lawyers to make a buck off of getting to the bottom of a pothole predicament that has Billy Boy oh so stymied N'esy Pas? 

 

Paul Estey
if the roadwork is under warranty, then its a no brainer that the road be fixed and fixed properly as it should have been done the first time.


David Amos 

Reply to @Paul Estey: Of course

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Paul Estey:
Warranty? Who are you trying to kid? As that road went down there was at least one government inspector on site who signed off that the job met, or exceeded, government spec. If the road did not last it is no fault of the installer. (it very well may be, but with the inspector signing off, the road, as installed, was up to specification) 

 

Terry Tibbs
There are several factors at play here.
Tar is expensive, short the tar, save money.
There are different grades of tar.
Road repairs on wet, or damp, roads are at best temporary.
The answer is close and thorough inspection, and testing, while the job is no progress.


Paul Estey 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: saving on the components isnt saving money as you have to repeat the process every couple years. I was told from a person who works in the DOT asphalt testing that the standards for asphalt have been lowered thereby letting contractors meet the minimum and make the maximum profit...get back to the old ways and stand by the old saying, o it right the first time and you wont be doing it over for a long time.

Terry Tibbs 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
Another factor:
Short the tar, use slightly oversize stones (both cost cutting measures), and your tires wear out quicker.

Terry Tibbs   

Reply to @Paul Estey:
If you are looking for a long term solution you must also inspect the roadbed. If the roadbed is not solid and stable all the asphalt in the world won't stay where it's put.

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you should ask Billy Boy if he is willing to hire you as a consultant However with an election coming soon it may only be a temporary position N'esy Pas?

Terry Tibbs   

Reply to @David Amos:
Maybe a "position" at NB Power, or Health NB, what do you say?
I could get lost quite easily among the desk operating do nothings.

Terry Tibbs   

Reply to @David Amos:
Though, really, since I retired I'm too busy to play stupid games.

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks it would be fun to be well paid riding around in a new truck with free gas counting potholes. I friend of mine used to do it for NB and retired well. However he was always nervous about keeping his job every four years or so for obvious reasons N'esy Pas?

Paul Estey 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: this is why I 95 in Maine has held up so well....the road sub structure was properly installed and prepared...yes...it would have cost a little more when being constructured but has had far less maintenance. 

 

Troy Murray
The roads are poor throughout the province. There is no reason whatsoever that main highways have potholes or deep grooves in the lanes caused by heavy trucks.Somebody is not doing their job. Blaming the weather year after year is getting old.


Paul Estey 

Reply to @Troy Murray: where are the inspectors when the road repairs are being undertaken.

Troy Murray

Reply to @Paul Estey: In Quebec?

David Amos

Reply to @Troy Murray: Methinks you jest just enough N'esy Pas?

Terry Tibbs 

Reply to @Troy Murray:
The grooves from trucks (wheel grooves) are caused by a poor grade of tar (it's cheaper and easier to work with due to it''s lower melt temperature). On a hot summer day the weight of the trucks simply pushes it aside.
Potholes have many causes.

Troy Murray 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: The highway shouldn't be like a country road, dodging potholes or getting caught in the rut. They have to improve on what they are doing, or start charging a highway toll and hire a better company and get it done properly

Terry Tibbs 

Reply to @Troy Murray:
All the work is tendered. Lowest tender gets the work. Specs and inspection are there to keep the contractors honest.
Can they cheat? Sure they can and do.
But before they get paid the inspector(s) must sign off. 

 

Roy Kirk
As in appliancies, there's more money's to be made by doing a poor job of roadwork, so you're called back to do it over again. The road building and paving companies are very good to your MLAs. And doing a poor job is cheaper in the short run, the only run govts consider.


David Amos 

Reply to @Roy Kirk: Good point Too bad so sad you hate me EH? 

 

Roland Stewart
Sometimes you get what you pay for and other you don't even get that , almost never get more than you pay for.


David Amos 

Reply to @Roland Stewart: Methinks because we get the governments we deserve they make certain that we never get what we pay for N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/paving-pickwauket-road-potholes-hampton-1.5374084

Hampton-area drivers dodge dozens of potholes a month after road paved

Province patching holes, but one resident says Pickwauket Road needs to be redone

Steven Webb· CBC News· Posted: Nov 27, 2019 5:30 AM AT




Just a month after being chip sealed, the Pickwauket Road on the outskirts of Hampton has exploded with dozens of potholes. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

For residents of Pickwauket Road, seeing a paving crew show up in their Hampton area neighbourhood this fall was pretty exciting.

Mark Blackier, who has lived there for almost two decades, said the road hasn't been paved in 18 years and wasn't in great shape. Pickwauket Road, also known as Route 845, runs from Hampton to the Kingston Peninsula and it's quite heavily travelled.

"I'm thinking, this is great, we're going to have, finally,  something that I don't have to worry about my vehicles," Blackier said.

But those positive thoughts quickly turned to concern as the chip-sealing work progressed.

Now Blackier has more worries about the road he drives on every day.


Mark Blackier lives on a stretch of Route 845 that was chip sealed in October. He says the road is more dangerous now than before the work was done. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

"You could see the machine wasn't working properly, it was operating and it was leaving heaves as it was doing it," he said.

"I know they're meant to leave a little bit of gravel on top to pound down, but they were leaving about eight inches, so it was a skating rink, driving on marbles for almost a month."

Blackier said it soon became apparent the extra gravel was the least of the problems.

"There was potholes forming while they were actually doing the project," he said, "We knew there were going to be problems, and now we've got potholes almost six to eight inches deep, up to my ankle.

"The potholes were forming as they were doing it, and they were just putting more gravel onto it and calling it a day."


The newly paved section of the Pickwauket Road is now marked with 'broken pavement' signs as a warning for the potholes ahead. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

The work was completed on Oct. 24, according to a Department of Transportation and Infrastructure spokesperson. A month later, there are dozens of potholes of all shapes and sizes on the four or five-kilometre stretch of newly chip-sealed road.

The road also doesn't appear to have much gravel on it anymore.


For 18 years this road near Hampton was never paved. Then the province chip sealed it this fall, and a few weeks later, it was exploding with potholes. 1:00

The stretch is now marked with a "broken pavement" sign.

Blackier said the road has become a bigger safety hazard than it was before the paving.

"My best friend up the street, with the potholes he's already dented one rim," he said, "I'm scared to death within the next kilometre to Hampton, I'm scared to death. I have to drive on the other side of the road just to get to my home."



In some cases, the only way around the potholes is to swerve into the other lane. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

A request to the Transportation Department for an interview was not granted. But DTI spokesperson Jeremy Trevors said in an email that the work was done by a private company.

Trevors said the contract is under warranty and "it's important to note, a planned second seal will be applied to Route 845 during the 2020 construction season."

Trevors also said the potholes would be repaired this week, weather permitting.

 
Add a little rain and early evening light, and the holes are even tougher to see. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

For Blackier, that's not good enough.

"It has to be redone, the whole four-kilometre stretch." he said

"It's been poorly done. The tar, I don't know the procedure, but I've been told it leached down through into the road, and it didn't hold the gravel."

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Provincial transparency law doesn't apply to campaign promises in snap election

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"Poffenroth said one party official she told about the exception recently was "quite happy" to learn the requirement would not apply."

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Provincial transparency law doesn't apply to campaign promises in snap election

Law requiring parties to release platform cost won’t apply if the election happens before October 2022

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Mar 02, 2020 6:00 AM AT




The Transparency in Election Commitments Act only governs elections held every four years under fixed-date provisions of the Elections Act and the Legislative Assembly Act. (Shane Magee/CBC)

It's still not clear whether New Brunswickers will vote in a provincial election this spring, but if a campaign happens, it'll be noticeably less transparent than the last one.

A law that requires parties to research and release the potential cost of their platform promises won't apply if the election happens this year, or at any time other than the next scheduled vote in October 2022.

The Transparency in Election Commitments Act only governs elections held every four years under fixed-date provisions of the Elections Act and the Legislative Assembly Act.

"It doesn't apply because of the way the legislation is written," says Chief Electoral Officer Kim Poffenroth.

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"It only applies to election commitments made before or during a scheduled general election. So if there's what we like to call a snap election, it won't apply."

Poffenroth says not having to oversee the filing of costed promises will ease the workload of her staff, which is facing the possibility of organizing a provincial vote while also working toward municipal, school district and health authority elections set for May 11.

In 2018, "there was a lot of additional work for the two or three people in our political financing unit," she said.

Poffenroth said one party official she told about the exception recently was "quite happy" to learn the requirement would not apply.

Snap staffing issues

The law requires parties to research the costs of promises made in the 90 days before the scheduled date of an election and file a "disclosure statement" with the information.

There's a complaint process involving the Court of Queen's Bench, and parties found to have not complied with the requirement can be fined and banned from advertising for the rest of the campaign.

The law provides for extra staff at the legislative library to help parties research the costs, and requires government departments to help them, in the six months leading up to the election.


New Brunswick's chief electoral officer Kim Poffenroth says not having to oversee the filing of costed promises will ease the workload of her staff, which is facing the possibility of organizing a provincial vote while also working toward municipal, school district and health authority elections set for May 11. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

That advance period by definition can't exist when the election is unexpected.

"A snap election is a snap election," said Liberal MLA Guy Arseneault. "There was no real mechanism in place that could be developed" for the same kind of costing on short notice.

"If we could find some way for a neutral third party to cost the platforms of all parties in the event of a snap election, we would welcome that," he said.

Law 'burdensome'

People's Alliance leader Kris Austin said the law was "very burdensome" for a small party like his, with limited resources, to comply with the law in 2018.

But he said his party will cost its promises regardless and he favours some kind of mechanism requiring all parties to do so. "There should be something there to hold parties to account."

The Alliance leader said he didn't know snap elections were not covered by the law until CBC News contacted his office for a comment.



People's Alliance leader Kris Austin said the law was "very burdensome" for a small party like his, but he said his party will cost its promises regardless. (CBC)

While its exception for snap elections would appear to make life easier for parties, Green Party leader David Coon says he wishes the law were in effect so his team could rely on the legislative library and government departments for help.

"As we cost our platform, it's going to be a little more difficult, because the assistance that the act ensures is available to parties … won't be available."

No one from the Progressive Conservative party could be reached for comment.

Legislative redo

The PC government of David Alward passed a previous version of the law that required parties to use outside auditors and left it to Elections New Brunswick to enforce the requirement.

The Liberals repealed the law in 2015, calling it "gimmicky," but then passed their own version two years later. In 2019, the PC minority government tried to replace that with a third version but withdrew it when all three opposition parties objected.

That left the Liberal law in place with its application only to scheduled elections.

Section 3 of the law says it applies to "a scheduled general election," which is defined as one happening according to a schedule set out in the Legislative Assembly Act.


The PC government of David Alward passed a previous version of the law that required parties to use outside auditors and left it to Elections New Brunswick to enforce the requirement. (CBC)

It says a general election must happen on the third Monday in October in the fourth calendar year after the last one.

That means a snap election this spring would reset the cycle and establish Oct. 21, 2024 as the date for the next election--unless another minority government takes office and is defeated before then.

The same costing exception for snap elections also exists for by-elections. Premier Blaine Higgs says he'll set the date in early March for two by-elections in the Saint Croix and Shediac Bay-Dieppe ridings.

If a general election were called or triggered after that date is set, the by-elections would be folded into the general election.

About the Author

Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 

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32 Comments




David Amos
"Poffenroth said one party official she told about the exception recently was "quite happy" to learn the requirement would not apply."

Just one? Yea Right























David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise

Terry Tibbs 

Reply to @David Amos:
I'm surprised, only one "poof" this AM so far...........

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @David Amos:
Oh My, Oh My............. a whole section went "poof". 

 

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you forgot that my blog saves everything I deem important N'esy Pas?  

























Claude DeRoche
Wow! The Crown Prince of Bermuda will need to explain how returning $2 billion
in yearly equalization transfers to Ottawa will help New Brunswick's economy!


David Amos 

Reply to @Claude DeRoche: Methinks you really didn't believe that Higgy's handlers would permit him to do such a dumb thing even though he was dumb enough to say it N'esy Pas?

Paul Bourgoin
The system always favors those who are on the receiving end not those who foot the BILL!


David Amos

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Methinks a retired Fed who used to work with the taxman should know N'esy Pas?

Matt Steele
Certainly good news for the Liberals ; now they can promise every N.B.er a free cottage , and a new car if folks will vote for the SANB controlled Liberal Party ; and no questions asked . The next election should be an interesting one . Promise any thing and every thing , and no accountability or costing required.....a Liberal dream come true !


Paul Bourgoin 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Liberals, Conservatives, And all the other political parties are all cut from the same cloth. New Brunswick, has only one Cotton Mill and it meets all the New Brunswick needs and is owned by the FAMILY!

David Amos

Reply to @Matt Steele: YUP I am looking forward to the chicken in every pot 

 

Brad Little
Music to Liberal ears


David Amos 

Reply to @Brad Little: Who wrote the rules? 

 

Ben Haroldson 
In other words, the rules don't apply ever, just more blather.


David Amos 

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: That goes without saying

Terry Tibbs
Simply folks: It's the law of surprise.
(look it up)


David Amos

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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks its a bit of a surprise to see that this comment section is still open. BTW the thread of yours that went "Poof" had more comments within it than the total tally is right now. Anyone can look it up in my blog to verify N'esy Pas? 

 

David Amos 
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Need i say "Poof" ??? 























Lauchlin Murray
If you look at Jacques Poitras's other stories, you can see he capitalizes 'leader' for other parties, like the Liberals. But, here, two times, he does not cap it for the People's Party's leader, Kris Austin. Is this political bias or just incompetence. Because, it appears twice that way. Why Kris not respected the same way as other party leaders? Which message is the CBC sending? Incompetence or bias?


Marguerite Deschamps  

Reply to @Lauchlin Murray: If you want respect, you have to show respect. Le Crisse d'Hostie has none for us and we have none for him.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Lauchlin Murray:
I *think* the point you are trying to make is moot. The lines have been drawn, Liberals/Green, CONServatives/Alliance. Two sides of the same coin, no difference that I can see, the faces might change but the essence will not.

David Peters 

Reply to @Lauchlin Murray:
Bias, with a capital B.

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Oh My My Who Methinks you are one who loves to pick fights fights I just love finishing them N'esy Pas?

Natalie Pugh 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: And WE have no respect for you, your acadian liberal party or your acadian society, which by the way could you start funding yourself??

Terry Tibbs 

Reply to @Natalie Pugh:
That's just nasty......... there HAS to be at least a few wags left in that old dog the tail can get?

Dan Lee

Reply to @Natalie Pugh:
Funding yourself...........talk about having the rear end 1st...........who the he..ll funded Fredericton its entire life...taxpayers...it sure wasn't your industries....man o man........ 

 

David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks the cat must have your tongue again N'esy Pas? 

























Elitasia Laurentientide
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Paint lines on the road, ban marijuana drugs, tell Ottawa to mind it's own business, stop Green leftists from the rest of the country from moving here and trying to change it.


Terry Tibbs 

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Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
1) if you don't know where on a road you belong without a line drawn on it you should not be driving.
2) no one is forcing anyone to smoke those evil drugs.
3) Ottawa gives NB $2.2 million a year. In my book the guy who does the paying gets to do some of the saying.
4) I would much prefer a Green leftist over a Liberal leftist, only one of the two is honest, and it's not the latter one.

Elitasia Laurentientide 

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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Then why do we paint roads then?

Elitasia Laurentientide 

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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Ottawa gives NB that money because they made us dependent through trade deals that did not favour New Brunswick. Have you ever heard of a nation where there aren't large ports up and down the coasts?

Elitasia Laurentientide 

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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I know where I belong on a road, but it's hard to know where there are supposed to be turning lanes or not.

Elitasia Laurentientide 

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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nobody is forcing people to be drug users, that's true. What they are doing is encouraging it. That is the opposite of what was promised. We were told tax revenue would be used to educate and discourage use.

Elitasia Laurentientide 

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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Green's have become MIL LIT TANT and very nasty if you don't agree with them and their unrealistic climate alarmist views.

Terry Tibbs  

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Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
"We" don't paint roads, "we" paint highways, as in "numbered highways", roads are the responsibility of the city/town when they are in the city/town.

Terry Tibbs  

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Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
"Large ports" are not controlled by Ottawa, they are controlled by need/useage, and suitability for a port.

Elitasia Laurentientide 

Content disabled  

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: No need to put we in quotations in this context. We, as a society do certain things even if we personally aren't the ones painting. I think you're splitting hairs. The provincial government gives funding to cities and towns to paint roads.

Terry Tibbs  

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Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
Turning lanes are marked by sign, either over head, or on the shoulder. Most turning lanes are in towns/villages/cities where painting lines is the town/village/city responsibility.
Lines do wear off of roads, but are usually replaced in the spring, weather permitting.

Terry Tibbs  

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Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
You are going to have to trust me here, legal, or not, folks have been smoking pot since, well, forever. Politicians promise a lot of things they have no intention of following through on.

Ben Haroldson

Content disabled  

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: There are lots of roads that aren't in cities or towns.

Terry Tibbs  

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Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
I vote Green and believe he climate is changing, but as an engineer I do not, for one minute, trust "climate science" to give ANY answers.
I do know we have made pigs of ourselves by consuming outrageously, but I feel the major cause of climate change to be overpopulation.

Terry Tibbs  

Content disabled  

Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
1) we all benefit from ice breakers
2) the St Lawrence is the natural shipping choice, it's where the people live, and boat shipping is cheaper than rail shipping. St John advertises itself as a shipping hub, to both NY and Montreal, but is under utilized because of cost.
3) if we had the population and the industry we would have another Boston.

Terry Tibbs  

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Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
It is now against the law to put lead in the paint and the days of oil based paint are limited. You better get used to lines wearing off of roads (and paint falling off of your car).

Terry Tibbs  

Content disabled  

Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
So, the government has become a drug pusher? Is that what you are saying?

Terry Tibbs  

Content disabled  

Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
Rural roads are not required to be marked, rural numbered highways are, that is the way it is, right from the DOT.

Terry Tibbs  

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Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
Use has not skyrocketed, in fact, as "the boomers" are aging use has decreased.
Someone is telling you stories.
Now, use of garbage synthetic drugs is increasing, still illegal, but cheap as dirt.

Terry Tibbs  

Content disabled  

Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
And "climate science" is a predictive science, not an exact science.

Terry Tibbs  

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Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
1) seems to me ice breakers are used/needed to operate the ferry boats in the winter, and rescue the odd hapless fisherperson.
2) the population/industry/banking/immigration centers of this country haven't been in NB since before Canada existed how can you blame Ottawa?

Terry Tibbs  

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Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
I disagree.

Terry Tibbs 

Content disabled  

Reply to @Elitasia Laurentientide:
"gateway drug" is a story told to children at bedtime. The same goes for usage. When I went to high school 9 out of 10 kids were smoking pot, the numbers are not that high now, even if it is because there are less kids, if you haven't noticed.
Somebody is telling you stories and you are believing them. 

Terry Tibbs

So, there you have it folks, if a politician promises us a Cadillac in every yard, it will be an "official" just kidding moment.
Sorta/kinda like the law enacted to protect us from outlandish, or any, election promises, if the election falls outside "the official election schedule" it is a "just kidding" law.
Isn't the life of a politician just grand, in this place of 2 official languages, double the chance of shortchanging us?

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
In this "just kidding" place, where no matter who you vote for the end result will be the same, maybe we should go broke, and we might find a trustee, appointed by those we owe money to, more honest and trustworthy than those we have the opportunity to elect?

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Well at least some of your words remain I should ask what kind of Cadillac is coming my way? Whereas I don't want a front wheel drive car methinks the other political party will swap it for a Lincoln N'esy Pas?

 

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Saint John Harbour MLA Gerry Lowe considers return to municipal politics

Liberal MLA still mulling how he will vote on upcoming PC budget

Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon· CBC News· Posted: Mar 04, 2020 6:00 AM AT




Saint John Harbour Liberal MLA Gerry Lowe recently said he may vote for the Progressive Conservative government's budget if it contains items he'd like to see for his riding, including a new school. (radio-canada.ca)

Saint John Harbour Liberal MLA Gerry Lowe says he's considering a return to municipal politics.
After sitting in opposition for 17 months, Lowe said he misses the municipal system.

"You can get so much more done as a councillor than you can as an MLA if you're in the opposition," he told CBC News.

"It's not my piece of cake, put it that way there."

Lowe's comments come less than a week before the Progressive Conservative minority government is scheduled to table the 2020-21 budget.

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Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers has vowed to introduce a non-confidence motion and defeat the Higgs government over controversial, now-halted health-care reforms, which included the nighttime closure of six small-hospital emergency departments.

Lowe has previously said he may not vote against the budget if it includes a long-awaited new school for his riding in  Saint John's south central peninsula and/or property tax reform for heavy industry.
But if he does vote against the budget, it would increase the likelihood of the government being toppled in the budget vote March 20, forcing a provincial election.

The legislature would then be dissolved and Lowe would have time to file his municipal candidacy ahead of the Elections New Brunswick deadline, which is 31 days before the May 11 municipal election.

Budget vote 'prime concern'

Lowe said Tuesday he still hasn't decided which way he will vote. That's his "prime concern" right now, he said.

To help him decide, he's following media reports, reading online comments, listening to constituents and talking to cab drivers to try to get a sense of "what the ordinary people think," he said.

Lowe expects to make a decision about his political future during that same period.

I think about it. And I dream about it. And I talk about it. And you know, eventually I'll make a decision.

- Gerry Lowe, Saint John Harbour MLA

Asked how he will make up his mind, he replied, "I really don't know.

"I think about it. And I dream about it. And I talk about it. And you know, eventually I'll make a decision."

Lowe, who only six months ago won a lengthy and expensive legal challenge of his 10-vote victory over PC candidate Barry Ogden, said he didn't get into provincial politics for the money or the pension. 

"I just ran because I thought I could do better for the city and I'm finding that, you know, that the co-operation that [Premier Blaine] Higgs said there was going to exist, that doesn't exist," he said.

"It's a one-way train that, you know, if you're in the minority, you have very little to say."

No interest in being mayor

As a city councillor for five years, Lowe said he used to be able to deal directly with city staff on behalf of citizens. "You'd win some, you'd lose some, but at least you could actually touch it."

Now, even though he's representing many of the same people in his provincial riding that his Ward 3 riding covered in the south end, Waterloo Village area, lower west side and part of the north end, everything has to go through Fredericton.

"It's so much harder to get it done."

Lowe, who is from Saint John and lived in the city his whole life, said if he does decide to run for council again, it would be as a councillor, where he can "get into the weeds of working with people."

He has "no interest whatsoever" in the mayor's seat, he said.

Mayor Don Darling announced last month he will seek a second term in the upcoming municipal election.

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David Amos

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Methinks two out three comments not going "Poof" aint bad N'esy Pas? 







David Amos

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"To help him decide, he's following media reports, reading online comments, listening to constituents and talking to cab drivers to try to get a sense of "what the ordinary people think," he said."

Too Too Funny indeed If that were remotely true then why doesn't Gerry Baby or his lawyers return calls or answer emails?  







David Amos
Yea Right Methinks Gerry Baby has worn out his welcome within the liberal party Furthermore even if they kept him as a candidate in the next election I doubt he would win So he wants his old seat back tis all N'esy Pas? 




























Matt Steele
No doubt Mr. Lowe sees the writing on the wall , and knows that if the Higgs Govt. falls ; then his chances of being re-elected in Harbour Center as a Liberal are next to none ; plus it is probably not much fun being an MLA in the SANB controlled Liberal Party . If Mr. Lowe was wise , he would cross the floor , and join the Higgs PC govt. ; at least then he might be able to get things done for his riding , and have a decent political future . Right now , sitting as a Liberal MLA is a losing situation for him , with no future 


David Amos

Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks the Irving Clan would never permit Higgy to do such a silly as to allow their #1 critic Gerry Baby into his crew N'esy Pas?

 

'I'm telling the truth': Flemming doubles down on Gauvin's departure

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Methinks because of my personal experiences with these people I should advise folks that only a fools would believe the words of a lawyer or a politician or a cop or a journalist Nesy Pas? 


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'I'm telling the truth': Flemming doubles down on Gauvin's departure

Health minister alleges former PC MLA initially supported divisive health-care changes in six hospitals

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Mar 02, 2020 5:11 PM AT



Health Minister Ted Flemming defended his public sharing of private conversations with his former PC colleague, Robert Gauvin. (CBC)

Health Minister Ted Flemming is defending his decision to reveal private conversations with former colleague Robert Gauvin, even while refusing to say whether a key decision by the Vitalité health board should be made public.

Flemming said Monday he stands by his version of the story of Gauvin's resignation from the Progressive Conservative cabinet and caucus over health reform — a version Gauvin himself has now denied.

The health minister said Gauvin promised to support the controversial health reforms announced Feb. 11 only if the government agreed to several spending projects in his riding.

"I'm only telling you that I'm telling the truth," Flemming said in an interview.

"My purpose was not to pick a fight with him. He was long gone. He had picked his pew and was sitting in it. I was simply taking people through the circumstances in which we find ourselves, and I stand by what I say."

Flemming told a Brunswick News editorial board last week that at a PC cabinet meeting, Gauvin initially supported the plans, which included the nighttime closure of six small-hospital emergency departments. The closures would include the hospital in Caraquet, used by many residents of Gauvin's riding.

• Health officials blame lack of awareness, entrenched mindsets for failed health reforms

Flemming repeated Monday that Gauvin backed the reforms at first, then called him and demanded the spending commitments in his riding.

Gauvin offers different account

Gauvin said in a statement Sunday that he hadn't used the riding projects as "bargaining chips" and withdrew his support for the reforms only when he realized there was a lack of clear answers about their impact in the affected communities.

"I discovered, amongst other things, that many health care professionals were not consulted," he said in a statement, listing potential effects on Ambulance New Brunswick and larger emergency departments already overflowing with patients.

"I realized then that this reform could not proceed as such and made it known," Gauvin said.


Robert Gauvin resigned as deputy premier and sits in the legislature as an independent. (CBC)

But Flemming said Gauvin was well aware the province was talking to health service providers such as Ambulance New Brunswick about how to handle the impact.

He said Gauvin's ultimatum was merely the latest in a series he issued since the PC government took power in November 2018.

"Mr. Gauvin has been on the edge of quitting for a long time. There was always an issue. There was always a line in the sand and so really it's kind of routine."

Gauvin publicly threatened to resign once before, when the Higgs government briefly planned to water down bilingualism requirements for ambulance paramedics in December 2018.

Board bickering

Despite his willingness to reveal internal discussions among PC government officials, Flemming wouldn't say whether a key record from the Vitalité health authority should also become public.

Three members of the Vitalité health board have now publicly contradicted claims by the network's board chair and CEO that the board supported the reforms announced Feb. 11.

• Vitalité board chair doubles down on assertion board members approved health reform

• Vice-chair of the Vitalité health network's board resigns over health reform plan

The three members say there was no mention of emergency departments closing at night in the resolution they approved at a meeting last December.

Vitalité CEO Gilles Lanteigne described the resolution to MLAs at a meeting of the legislature's Public Accounts Committee Feb. 19, but he says it was voted on during an in camera meeting and can't be released publicly.

Last Friday Premier Blaine Higgs called it "concerning" that the resolution may not have been specific. "My understanding was that both boards, both CEOs, were on the same page," he said. "I guess it would be nice to get this resolved."

Flemming said Monday he hasn't looked at the resolution and doesn't know how specific it was about the reforms. "I wasn't present at their board meeting and I haven't seen the minutes."


Vitalité board chair Michelyne Paulin called for a special meeting of the board next week. (City of Dieppe)

He also wouldn't say if it should be released publicly to resolve the war of words. "I'd have to look into that," he said. "It's their board."

Vitalité's board chair Michelyne Paulin has called a special meeting of the board for March 13 to update members, "given the media attention of the last few days," spokesperson Thomas Lizotte said.

Calls to remove Flemming

Flemming also tried to reassure three Sussex-area mayors, who have called for him to be fired, that upcoming consultations will take place in good faith.

"That's their prerogative," he said. "There is no reason for them to think the plan is going ahead. We've stopped it. We are going to have a summit. We're going to consult with people. We're going to consult with experts."

The three mayors, Mark Thorne of Sussex, Steven Stackhouse of Sussex Corner and Juliana Booth of Norton, wrote to Higgs last week asking him to replace Flemming and the two health authority CEOs.

They said public comments by Flemming and the two CEOs suggested they would not consider any alternatives for health reform "beyond what has already been done."

"Many citizens, many New Brunswickers, will have a hard time putting any credibility to the tour if all the suggestions are going to land back on the laps of those who said they don't want to listen," Thorne said in an interview.

"There's no trust because the minister has been very definite in his words. He has said they've done enough and the reaction by the public is the result of an emotional reaction and an entrenched mindset."


Premier Blaine Higgs says his government won't be 'ramming something down someone's throat' when it comes to making health-care reforms. (CBC)

But Flemming said the consultations, which are to culminate in a provincial health summit in June, are intended to hear local concerns and address them.

Premier Blaine Higgs said Friday he had no intention "of ramming something down someone's throat.
… I think the point is for us to put all of the information out there for people to see, and then we come up with a decision together."

Gauvin's alleged demands

Flemming also acknowledged Monday he made two mistakes in describing Gauvin's supposed demands.

He told Brunswick News that Gauvin wanted  "a bridge to Miscou," and a commitment to keep two courthouses open in his riding.

But there are no courthouses in Gauvin's riding, and the existing Miscou bridge is only 23 years old and doesn't need to be replaced.

The PC government allocated $1 million in last December's capital budget to start design work on replacing a 60-year-old bridge between Shippagan and Lamèque by 2025.

Flemming acknowledged those mistakes and said he was referring to the older bridge, and that Gauvin wanted the work to move faster.

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David Amos
Methinks because of my personal experiences with these people I should advise folks that only a fools would believe the words of a lawyer or a politician or a cop or a journalist Nesy Pas?





David Amos
Methinks "Justin Time" will have to find my last words to him elswhere N'esy Pas? 





























David Amos
Methinks Mr Flemming will enjoy the email I just sent to him and the 3 Mayors who are putting his down in this article N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: Methinks if the lawyer Flemming were wise he would finally send me my Medicare Card and reimburse me for my Health Care expenses within the system the oversees N'esy Pas? 

 

Diane Bellefleur
"I'm only telling you that I'm telling the truth," Flemming said in an interview. Wow Flemming and Higgs are getting into the same routine as Donald Trump....nobody knows when they are telling the truth. Shame on you.


David Amos 

Reply to @Diane Bellefleur: Shame on them all 

 

David Amos
I wonder what Gauvin would do if his old buddy Flemming put a "Stay"on his Medicare Card like they did to me because they don't like my politicking? 




























David Stairs
the only tiny province in the world that has 2 health care systems and we cannot figure out what is wrong...these 2 are a joke


David Amos 

Reply to @David Stairs: YUP but the joke is on us

Mac Isaac
I don't really have a dog in this hunt because I'm in neither's riding but if there isn't a kernel of truth in either's story, then I would have to put my belief in M. Gauvin's story. Why? I simply do NOT believe anything coming out of the mouth of Mr. Flemming...it's simply my sense of the man and not based on anything other than that.


Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Mac Isaac: I mostly believe Mr. Flemming in this instance, but I understand why you would not. It is a bit like the boy who cried wolf. Many of us have stopped believing Mr. Fleming based on past history.

Mac Isaac

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Exactly! While M. Gauvin is an unknown "quantity" in terms of veracity, I don't think the same can be said for Mr.Flemming. As for Mr. Higgs, I actually like his "grandfatherly" persona but I'm not so sure about hid tenure with the late and, to me at least, unlamented demise of the C.O.R. Party. Changing your spots and then changing them again seems a bit opportunistic to me.

David Amos

Reply to @Mac Isaac: At least you have a Medicare Card 

 

Donna McArdle
I find it difficult to believe that an MLA would use the closing of health emergency health facilities as a bargaining chit for money being spent in his/her riding.


Fred Brewer

Reply to @Donna McArdle: I don't find it difficult to believe. It is called "making the best of a bad situation". Gauvin knew the emergency closures were a done deal, and tried to use his acceptance as a bargaining chip. Although loathsome, I understand that this is the way our political system works. What I find unforgivable is Mr. Gauvin's attempts of trying to keep the truth from coming out. Fess up Mr. Gauvin. Confession is good for the soul and good for respect from the public

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Donna McArdle:
The 'problem" is one of misdirection. Sure ER's closing merits attention, but the "real story" is the TOTAL closing of 6 hospitals, the almost TOTAL lay off of the staff, and their replacement by nursing home workers, likely part time nursing home workers (dodging the union and the paying of benefits).
In government, "votes" are bargained for ALL the time, that is how minority governments work, but the demand for a hundred million dollars worth of bargaining is really a bit over the top.

John O'Brien

Reply to @Donna McArdle: The MLA in question is a Frenchman so displaying typical French values.

David Amos

Reply to @John O'Brien: Methinks many folks would agree that English dudes act every bit as poorly The lawyer Flemming is just one example N'esy Pas? 

 

Jake Newman
time for an election for a Higgs majority.


Marc Martin  

Reply to @Jake Newman: With what votes ? He has been fighting with unions, French people and now he lost his only upper north representation.

Kevin Cormier 

Reply to @Marc Martin: While Higgs won't make much inroads in the next election, don't be fooled that Uncle Kevin will make gains either. Someone will be a minority government.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Kevin Cormier:
ONLY if we can trust the folks of NB haven't completely lost their senses.

Jake Newman 

Reply to @Marc Martin: yep, and both of those need to be taken on. Prov is bankrupt.

Terry Tibbs  

Reply to @Jake Newman:
Bring on the bankruptcy. I would trust almost ANY appointed trustee to do a better, more competent AND HONEST job of running things than EITHER of the two choices presented to us.

Jake Newman

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: so that leaves the Greens and the People's Alliance.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Jake Newman: You realize I pay taxes like you and am allowed to the same service as you right? Assimilation is not an option buddy.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Jake Newman: PANB ? People with zero experience to run an administration ??? I am glad you only count for 1 vote...

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Marc Martin: That's an interesting point of view there Marc. If the world adopted your philosophy, we would never have doctors, lawyers, judges or teachers because they all start with ZERO experience. Need I remind you that all political parties at one time or another had ZERO experience; even your beloved Liberals.

Archie Levesque

Reply to @Marc Martin: So you want all anglophones to learn french . what is that called again? oh right - assimilation

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: I have no idea what you are referring too.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Archie Levesque: No one is forcing the English to learn French, where did you see that ? You didn't BUT you would want all French services to be eliminated to force us to learn English, its called assimilation.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Ah you mean this *PANB ? People with zero experience to run an administration ??? * At least doctors, lawyers, judges, teachers all have an education on the career, what can we say about your pastor ? What is his background in politics?

David Amos

Reply to @Jake Newman: Dream on Methinks many folks will agree that there will be no majorities for years to come N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Kevin Cormier: Hows the new job at the library working out?

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Marc Martin: "No one is forcing the English to learn French"
Where have you been for the past 50 years? All school kids are forced to learn french. It is NOT an optional subject.

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Marc Martin: "What is his background in politics?"
Background does not matter. In fact it might be an advantage to not have the background that the red and blue parties have. The red and blue background consists of broken election promises, backroom deals, catering to large industry while shafting the little guys, and let's not forget NEPOTISM. So if you feel that kind of background is needed, then I am glad you only count as one vote. I for one, plan on voting for a party without that kind of background.... Purple or Green.

David Amos

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Cry me a river 

 

Billy Joe Mcallister
Fleming needs to resign or the very least a cabinet re-think is long overdue. Cardy also needs to go. Maybe if Kris Austin is not going to do anything else he can cross the floor, join his first love (the conservative party) and wait for a leadership convention


David Amos 

Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister: Methinks you should finally let Bobbie Lee Gentry know that she should quit chucking flowers off the bridge Nesy Pas?

David Amos 

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Reply to @Billy Joe Mcallister:

Ode to Billie Joe
Song by Bobbie Gentry

It was the third of June, another sleepy, dusty Delta day
I was out choppin' cotton, and my brother was balin' hay
And at dinner time we stopped and walked back to the house to eat
And mama hollered out the back door, y'all, remember to wipe your feet
And then she said, I got some news this mornin' from Choctaw Ridge
Today, Billy Joe MacAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge

And papa said to mama, as he passed around the blackeyed peas
Well, Billy Joe never had a lick of sense; pass the biscuits, please
There's five more acres in the lower forty I've got to plow
And mama said it was shame about Billy Joe, anyhow
Seems like nothin' ever comes to no good up on Choctaw Ridge
And now Billy Joe MacAllister's jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge

And brother said he recollected when he, and Tom, and Billie Joe
Put a frog down my back at the Carroll County picture show
And wasn't I talkin' to him after church last Sunday night?
I'll have another piece-a apple pie; you know, it don't seem right
I saw him at the sawmill yesterday on Choctaw Ridge
And now ya tell me Billie Joe's jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge  

David Amos

Reply to @: Billy Joe Mcallister

And mama said to me, child, what's happened to your appetite?
I've been cookin' all morning, and you haven't touched a single bite
That nice young preacher, Brother Taylor, dropped by today
Said he'd be pleased to have dinner on Sunday, oh, by the way
He said he saw a girl that looked a lot like you up on Choctaw Ridge
And she and Billy Joe was throwing somethin' off the Tallahatchie Bridge

A year has come and gone since we heard the news 'bout Billy Joe
And brother married Becky Thompson; they bought a store in Tupelo
There was a virus going 'round; papa caught it, and he died last spring
And now mama doesn't seem to want to do much of anything
And me, I spend a lot of time pickin' flowers up on Choctaw Ridge
And drop them into the muddy water off the Tallahatchie Bridge

Paul Bourgoin
Health Minister Ted Flemming defended his public sharing of private conversations with his former PC colleague, Robert Gauvin Health minister who alleges former PC MLA initially supported the divisive health-care changes in six hospitals. Well here we are again trying to establish what the Truth Is!


Marc Martin 

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Of course he is going to throw him under the bus the CoRservatives are losing ground in polls, its all about being in power.

Archie Levesque

Reply to @Marc Martin: It is all about power. Mr Vickers demonstrated that when he said he would bring down the gov't over the issue with no clear plan of his own to implement

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Archie Levesque: He is making a stand for every Nbers, everyone pay taxes so everyone is entitled to the same services. May I remind you we are not in Russia here.

Archie Levesque

Reply to @Marc Martin: If SANB LIbErals actually governed for the whole province I might agree with you. If they have a better plan - put it out there for people to see. Or do we have to wait until after the next election for another round of consultations?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Archie Levesque: Another one who is using the term *SANB Liberals* If it was the case why did the Liberal elect MLAs in Fredericton, Saint john, Campbellton and Moncton ???

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks it would be very hard for you deny the fact that your are a SANB/Liberal camped in Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?

Archie Levesque 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Then why did the CORseravtives, as you cal them, elect a member in the northeast?

Gary MacKay
Mr. Flemming has dug a hole of mistrust and disbelief and continues to dig. Mr. Flemming should IMO stop digging. Time for a new health minister Mr. Higgs or please take away his shovel.

David Amos

Reply to @Gary MacKay: Methinks the lawyer should keep digging Some of us are enjoying the circus N'esy Pas?

Marcel Belanger
There will likely be an election this spring. Higgs and Flemming are pretty much setting the stage for it and seem to be trying to divide the province even further. How they did not see this coming is baffling and it seems they are trying to recoup the rural voters they alienated by smearing Gauvin and using white gloves on Northrup. As for Flemming’s truthfulness all I can say is one error in a statement is forgivable but 2 errors pretty much debunks it.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Marcel Belanger: Yep.

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Who cares?

Jeff Trueman
Gauvin is just like his old man. Shady.


David Amos 

Reply to @Jeff Trueman: YUP 

 

Dotty Gaudet
Gauvin has already threatened (promised) two weeks ago to retire from politics. Let him go. He's like a spoiled kid...if I don't get my way, I'm going home.


David Amos 

Reply to @Dotty Gaudet: Methinks whereas the SANB support him bigtime he is like a moth to the flame N'esy Pas? 

 

Terry Tibbs
On the topic of "truth" Mr Fleming, you have to excuse me, I am and old man, who has trouble understanding things sometimes:

The BIG question I have is:
If, as is claimed, we are short doctors and nurses (and first hand I have seen we are), we must not be having to pay 100? 200? 300? people? Right? (I can't be more specific, depending who is asked a different number pops out)
And it is claimed the budget is "over"?
Explain to me please how this adds up?
Where is the money going if we aren't paying it to doctors and nurses?
How can we blame doctors and nurses for the budget being "over"?
What good does it do closing ER's to save the salaries paid to doctors and nurses when it is not the money paid (or not paid) to doctors and nurses that causes the budget to be "over"?

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
But that really wasn't the plan now, was it, Mr Fleming?
"The plan" was to close 6 hospitals, turning them into nursing homes, requiring a LOT less expensive staff, so you could simply lay off ALL but one RN per shift, put any doctors "on call", and staff the places with far, far, cheaper old age home workers.
The Liberal art of misdirection while continuing to pick our pockets.
Nice try.
Tell me again how much we are supposed to trust you................

Marc Martin

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Your not.

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you Green dudes don't expect an answer from Flemming et al but it seems you may rely on a certain SANB/liberal from Fat Fred City and perhaps an Independent such as I to add our two bits worth N'esy Pas?

Bob Smith
Before anyone dismisses Fleming's remarks out of hand, keep in mind what Gerry Lowe wants for his budget vote. Names and dates may change but in NB, elected MLAs have a history of looking for perks/benefits to make themselves look better come election time.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Bob Smith:
Sorry, I don't think Mr Fleming knows what day of the week it is, what month we are in, and the year.

Jeff Trueman 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Ya. I cannot see a Gauvin doing anything shady..nahhhhh

Terry Tibbs 

Reply to @Jeff Trueman:
Should we pretend then, that they are not tarred with the same brush?

David Amos

Reply to @Jeff Trueman: Surely you jest 

 

Michael durant
Fleming needs to resign or get fired.


David Amos 

Reply to @Michael durant: Methinks he is one of the best clowns in Higgy's circus many of us would miss him if he exited stage right the ECO and left Cardy with more butter tarts to gobble down N'esy Pas? 

 

David Amos
Methinks the lawyer Flemming should fess up as to why he kept the "Stay" on my Medicare Card before I sue him N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: We don't care.

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks "We" must mean you must you and Kelly N'esy Pas??

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Who is Kelly ? Is he another imaginary person like the Sherriff ?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: I thought she was a woman

Andrew Clarkson
Who ever would have imagined, a politician and an extortionist all in one!


David Amos 

Reply to @Andrew Clarkson: Methinks many would agree that they are as common as mud N'esy Pas?

Wayne Mac Arthur
I saw Me Gauvin's statements when he parted company with the party he was elected to support and have no doubt there was more to the story than he revealed.


Kyle Woodman

Reply to @Wayne Mac Arthur: Yup that's what I saw too. It wasn't hard to read between the lines.

David Amos

Reply to @Wayne Mac Arthur: There always is 

 

Ray Bungay
Politics is a dirty game. Even though Mr Woodman in says the "government is a lame duck" that wounded duck is far better than going through another election and the possiblity of another Liberal do nothing, but increase taxes for their friends, win. I am not ready for that scenario. When this mess about closing ERs in 6 regions and FAILED,Flemming also FAILED and should have offered his resignation he did not! At least Gauvin did and now unless a pot of gold in every home is in the upcoming budget, an election is sure to come this spring. How sad is dirty politics really! 


David Amos

Reply to @Ray Bungay: My My a retired Fed sure can cry quite a river in capital letters not less. Methinks you fail to understand we will always get the governments we deserve until people clue in on the wicked game Nesy Pas?

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Ray Bungay:
Bring on a bankruptcy, I've decided a trustee would do a better, more honest, job of running this place.

Kyle Woodman
This government is a lame duck.


Shawn McShane 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: You would hope that even if the duck is lame it still has at least one ball?

Roy Kirk 

Reply to @Shawn McShane: a lame drake then?

Kyle Woodman

Reply to @Roy Kirk: hahaha. Great retort.

David Amos

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Methinks it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion Many folks no doubt agree that the liberals or the PANB or the Greens are no better Don't overlook the 40 percent of us who don't bother to vote I am certain they agree N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
CoRservatives are in panic mode...

Shawn McShane

Reply to @Marc Martin: Na...just you.

David Amos

Reply to @Shawn McShane: Oh So True

Lou Bell

Reply to @Marc Martin: Gauvin upset the SANB . He couldn't d the job they expected him to do. He just confirmed all we expected of him. Another SANB pah pet , nothing more.

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks many folks would agree that Gauvin followed SANB orders to the letter. Hence they are very happy with him and that is why he did not quit like he said would N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Everyone is a SANB follower if we don't support your CoRservatives...

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Who cares.

Archie Levesque  

Reply to @Marc Martin: And everyone is a CoR member if we don't kowtow to the SANB

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Archie Levesque: Nope only the people who support CoRservatives and PANB.

Archie Levesque  

Reply to @Marc Martin: So how French is French enough? According to the SANB president unless you are are born & raised as a francophone you will never be French enough for them.

Bryan Jones

Reply to @Archie Levesque: Remember that a previous incumbent of that position wanted to ban marriages between the English and the French.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Archie Levesque: I don't know what is French enough, and I don't even know who the SANB president is, but you do ? Its seems you need to stop focusing all your attention to the French its bad for your health.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Bryan Jones: You mean they wanted to do the same as the English did for hundred of years ?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you and Kelly obviously do N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Is Kellly another imaginary Sheriff ?

Archie Levesque 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Robert Melanson said he remains skeptical that Savoie will be able to step up to the plate.

"Mr. Savoie has been brought up in an English community, went to an English school…I don't think that the francophone of New Brunswick are going to accept that."

Here is a quote from a CBC article from Feb.

Jim Cyr
Jacques Poitras seems to be arguing for ultra-secrecy and backroom deals in provincial governance. Jacques is mad that Flemming brought Gauvin's extortion into the public spotlight. Jacques is a journalist, so it seems pretty strange, huh?? They call it "advocacy journalism"---the truth and transparency matter less than a reporter's "team" gaining power (and the team is always leftist....)


Marc Martin 

Reply to @Jim Cyr: How is the blue kool aid?

Shawn McShane 

Reply to @Marc Martin: HOw is the blue/red/French kool aid?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Shawn McShane: There is French kool aid ?

Shawn McShane  

Reply to @Marc Martin: But of course. It infects all of Canada.

Shawn McShane  

Reply to @Shawn McShane: It has divided Canada since confederation.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Shawn McShane: Canada is divided? Since when?

Shawn McShane  

Reply to @Marc Martin: Since Confederation. Lower Canada asked to join.

Shawn McShane  

Reply to @Marc Martin: Loyalist American settlers and British immigrants in Upper Canada had English laws. Lower Canada had French civil law and the Catholic Church. It was The Maritime Union... until Quebec ( Low Canada) asked to join.

David Amos

Reply to @Shawn McShane: YUP

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks your favourite SANB Kool Aid is red N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Shawn McShane: Is that why when Quebec wanted to separate Canada didn't want them too ?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: When is the Sherriff going to come see me Davis ?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks whereas who won't tell me perhaps Kelly may knows who Davis N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: We don't care...

Jim Cyr
So what good would it do for Higgs to try to save some money on the wasteful emergency room hours, only to turn around and have to spend wastefully in Gauvin's riding in order to get his support?? Ridiculous. Higgs did the right thing and said, "NO WAY". And Gauvin showed that he has few principles. Hope he gets canned by the voters.


Marc Martin 

Reply to @Jim Cyr: yawnnn

David Amos

Reply to @Jim Cyr: Methinks many agree that if Gauvin chucks his hat in the ring again he will be elected again However win or lose it will be a circus to enjoy watching N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks if you keep typing and yawning in lieu of hitting the sack the love of your life may start wondering about your relationship N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin  

Reply to @David Amos: Where is the sheriff ?

Terry Tibbs 

Reply to @Jim Cyr:
Your attention is being misdirected. Sure ER's closing merits attention, but the "real story" is the TOTAL closing of 6 hospitals, the almost TOTAL lay off of the staff, and their replacement by nursing home workers, likely part time nursing home workers (dodging the union and the paying of benefits).

Jim Cyr 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Terry, New Brunswick has been closing and consolidating almost all of its small, rural hospitals for decades. This is hardly a "Higgs thing". It IS a result of socialized medicine not working. (Here in Maine, our small, rural hospitals do NOT close).

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Do who want his number?

Marc Martin  

Reply to @David Amos: I dont need his number since you sent him to see me right?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks Kelly must agree that your memory is very selective N'esy Pas? 

 

Don Smith
Anyone who feels it necessary to reinforce their words with "I am telling the truth" usually isn't't.

Shawn McShane

Reply to @Don Smith: I am telling the truth: If the hospital near me closes and my property tax halves with my income tax I will support it, otherwise what the hell am I paying for? Everything is going sky high. For Sale: No hospital, property tax as hi as a mortgage and u need to speak French. Please buy my house.

Josef Blow 

Reply to @Shawn McShane: maybe if you learned French instead? And list you house with an agent. Unless you want to pay CBC a real estate fee?

David Amos

Reply to @Josef Blow: WOW

Shawn McShane  

Reply to @Josef Blow: How does me speaking French lower my taxes? My home is not in a Francophone area where the taxes are half and the services are double.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Shawn McShane: How does not speaking French makes you pay more taxes?

Shawn McShane 

Reply to @Marc Martin: We pay more taxes for duality. 2 of everything for 1/3

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Shawn McShane: So your solution is to make everything French only? You want to save no?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks you need to learn to read English N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin  

Reply to @David Amos: Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin ?

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks thats kinda obvious Nobody else would pretend to be you N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin  

Reply to @David Amos: Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin? 

 

Robert Buck
I wonder if either one would be willing to take a polygraph test.


Johnny Horton 

Reply to @Robert Buck:
I always look st the potential sins and losses.
Flemming has zero to gain by lying. There is no potential benefit for doing so. He could harm himself if he is lying though,
Gauvin has everything to lose if he attempted blackmail. So his best option is to deny. He would gain little by coming clean and just semirrihg it.
Seems to me then in this particular case Flemming is probably the closest to the truth,

David Amos  

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Yea Right

Marc Martin

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Actualy he does, they are afraid to loose the election.

Johnny Horton  

Reply to @Marc Martin:
It if he is caught lying they lose. So that don’t wash as a reason he would lie.

Marc Martin

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Didnt you read? He said he did..

David Amos  

Reply to @Marc Martin: Who do you think your are fooling? Methinks everybody knows that neither of you can read N'esy Pas?

 

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Amos: Its been a year since you said a sheriff would come se me, where is he?

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: BS its been about a week

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Amos: You told me the same thing last year... 

 

Johnny Horton
Gauvin, a politicisn, making demands to aid himself. Imagine that.

While Flemming might be a Gozo, there is no doubt Gauguin is just as guilty with making demands.


Marc Martin 

Reply to @Johnny Horton: A CoRservative supporter in denial defending Fleming...

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks Kelly no doubt agrees that you two should get a room N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin  

Reply to @David Amos: You would like for 2 guy to get a room together ? Why would even think about that ? Keep your wish list for yourself, that's personal.

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks I touched a nerve perhaps something in your past haunting you N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin  

Reply to @David Amos: I think you have a sick imagination...

David Amos

Reply to @Marc Martin: Methinks everybody knows why I think even less of you N'esy Pas? 

 

Roy Kirk
"Flemming also acknowledged Monday he made two mistakes in describing Gauvin's supposed demands."
===
One's left wondering how many other mistakes he's made on his files. Maybe he'd a mistaken impression of the bill of goods he bought from the Sr mgmt of the Boards?

He told Br

Johnny Horton

Reply to @Roy Kirk:
I’m sure you have never. Are an error in your career...

David Amos

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Who are you to judge anyone?

David Amos

Reply to @Johnny Horton: Has the cat got your tongue again? 

 

Kyle Woodman
I'd say Gauvin could start running his mouth any time now. I'm sure he has lots of stories to tell. Flemming is just trying to smear him before the next election. Gauvin will no doubt reveal more details about the soap opera that is team Higgs. Stay tuned. The best is yet to come.


David Amos 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: C'est Vrai

Dianne MacPherson 

Reply to @Kyle Woodman:
Then the voters will get the true measure of Gauvin.
A showboat is Gauvin; Premier Higgs is well rid of him !!

Kyle Woodman 

Reply to @Dianne MacPherson: The PC party is a divided party under higgs. It's highschool level pettiness amongst factions within the party. I predict they will have the same result as the old divided COR party.

Lewis Taylor
Flemming has never been known for accuracy. Wish we had smarter people in politics.


David Amos 

Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Starting with you

Matt Steele
It is a tough situation for everyone involved . Folks need to accept the fact that N.B. is now the poorest province in Canada , with a 14 BILLION plus debt , and nearly 2 MILLION per day just in interest payments . Higgs PCs are trying to get the debt and spending under control ; and that involves cuts . No doubt Gauvin has had a hard time as he has become the SANB punching bag ; and Flemming is in a tough spot as Health Care is the most costly dept. in the whole govt , and it's getting worse with out of control spending. ; yet no one wants to cut anything . Welcome to N.B. ; Canada's ONLY OFFICIALLY BILINGUAL PROVINCE , and FAILED social experiment !


Lewis Taylor 

Reply to @Matt Steele:
Better SANB than PANB. one fight for equality and the other wants to take thing away from minorities.

Lewis Taylor 

Reply to @Matt Steele:
Francophones were here long before you or your ancestors.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Lewis Taylor:
Correction: one wants the tail to wag the dog and the other one is tired of being dizzy.

Matt Steele 

Reply to @Lewis Taylor: ....The SANB fights for no one . The SANB is a very small group of individuals who wants to fill their own pockets with taxpayer cash , and nothing more . The SANB has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to help N.B.ers , Francophones , or anyone else . If you haven't figured that out yet , then that is your problem , and no one elses .

Josef Blow 

Reply to @Matt Steele: You appear to be an angry and frustrated man, Mr. Steele. . Why don't you run for the Purples? Your usual display of fury towards anything or anyone associated with the French language and Acadian culture is bordering on the pathological

Josef Blow 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Your pet peeve is not going away even if you continue to stomp your foot … . And your use of Trump-like upper case is entertaining.

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Matt Steele: So everyone who disagrees with your CoRservatives are working for SANB now ?

Marc Martin 

Reply to @Matt Steele: * The SANB is a very small group of individuals who wants to fill their own pockets with taxpayer cash* but yet each time anyone disagrees with your CoRservatives they work for SANB, looks like a pretty big minority there buddy...

Matt Steele 

Reply to @Josef Blow: ....It is odd with all your f ake accounts , that you never have any up votes ; you must be a small minded friendless person . Enjoy your sad little life....lol

Matt Steele

Reply to @Marc Martin: ....You should know with all your f ake accounts.......how many accounts do you have now ?

David Amos 

Reply to @Matt Steele: The one he using right now ain't fake

David Amos 

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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: "Oh My, Oh My............. a whole section went "poof".

Nope it lives on in my blog BTW that comment section is still open

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Matt Steele: *that you never have any up votes * That's because he didn't click on his own votes...

Marc Martin  

Reply to @Matt Steele: Yeah right...Says the guy with a fake account...

Marc Martin  

Reply to @David Amos: who cares...

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Clearly you do

Marc Martin 

Reply to @David Amos: Not really and I am a very caring person...

Roland Stewart
They are like actors without a script.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Roland Stewart:
It's good to know that "inclusion" is not limited to our schools.

David Amos

Reply to @Roland Stewart: Relax and enjoy the circus 

 

Terry Tibbs
In the "just kidding" province of NB we elect folks to spend our money for us while they play musical chairs. If the law of surprise comes into play Mr Trudeau will stop by and give them all awards at a $50,000 a plate dinner.
We deserve to be broke for electing these clowns.


David Amos 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You but methinks they give us quite a circus to enjoy N'esy Pas? 

 

Justin Time
Two politicians both telling the truth, highly unlikely. Sounds like "alternative facts" from both.


David Amos 

Reply to @Justin Time: "And they might want to check the results of this famous lawsuit, file A-48-16 in the federal court."

Methinks you posted this just in time before to comment section closed but failed to point paragraph 22 which is particularly important for folks to check out N'esy Pas?

[22] Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD. He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.

Reply to @David Amos: And this is relative in what way???? Continuous quoting of this failed lawsuit is not helping you. Let it go.

David Amos

Reply to @Justin Time: The fat lady ain't sung on that matter yet. I must ask what did you think about the wiretaps in the docket?

Justin Time 

Reply to @David Amos: I don't really understand their relevance to the rest of the case I guess. I even went as far as listening to some of it in another location and while the tapes may be genuine I don't see how they relate to any of the stories you quote them on. Just my opinion.

David Amos

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Reply to @Justin Time: Perhap I suspect most folks should understand why i would believe what you say is sincere if and when you finally acted ethically and obeyed the rules within this domain by posting your real name before you challenge my integrity anymore That said methinks anyone should understand the Canadian Criminal Code particularly the 3 judges who composed the document you tease me about N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Justin Time: The article is about Is Flemming a lawyer and a Health Minister Correct? Was the former wannabe liberal leader Mike Murphy a lawyer and a Health Minister in 2007 before he became our Attorney General? Methinks you should read my lawsuit again real real slow N'esy Pas? 

 

Kyle Woodman

Baloney.

   

David Amos

Reply to @Kyle Woodman: Methinks some folks may agree that the lawyer Flemming is finally telling some truths to save his butt Nesy Pas? 

 

Clive Gibbons
In figuring out who is telling the truth, one has to ask "who has the most to lose?". That is usually the side most likely to lie. Sorry, Mr. Flemming, but Mr. Gauvin hasn't got much to lose...


David Amos 

Reply to @Clive Gibbons: I strongly disagree Methinks you should ask the SANB if the they wish to argue me about that simple fact N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin

Reply to @David Amos: Have you noticed no one wants to talk to you ? I wonder why...

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Martin: Why are you?

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Methinks Luigi Rocca and I should have a long talk about many things but the top of the list is why there is a "Stay" on my Medicare Card N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/health-care-reforms-luigi-rocca-horizon-vitalite-1.5484742

Discourse on health-care reform too politically charged, says former Horizon board member

Luigi Rocca says people are 'digging in their heels' when discussing changes to health-care system

 

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Mar 04, 2020 5:00 AM AT




 Protests erupted outside the hospitals at the centre of the now-halted health-care reforms. (Graham Thompson/CBC)


A former member of the Horizon Health Network board says New Brunswickers need to take a hard look at the health-care system and what he says was a sincere attempt to reform it by the Higgs government.

Moncton businessman Luigi Rocca says he's worried that the debate over changes announced, and quickly cancelled, by the Progressive Conservatives last month has become politically polarized.
"My fear is that people are digging in their heels now," he said.

On Monday night, Sackville town council joined mayors in Sussex, Sussex Corner and Norton in calling on Premier Blaine Higgs to replace Health Minister Ted Flemming and the CEOs of the two regional health authorities.


Four municipalities are now calling for Health Minister Ted Flemming, pictured, and the two health authority CEOs to be removed from their positions. (CBC)


The Sackville motion said council had "lost trust and confidence in the present leadership of these provincial health organizations."

Meanwhile, one of those authorities, Vitalité, has scheduled a special meeting of its board for March 13 to deal with complaints by three members that they never got to vote on the nighttime closure of emergency departments at small hospitals.

• 'I'm telling the truth': Flemming doubles down on Gauvin's departure

Several municipal councils in northeast New Brunswick have demanded the firing of Vitalité CEO Gilles Lanteigne.

'The only logical explanation'

Rocca, who was on the Horizon board from 2012 to 2016, said the rhetoric surrounding the reforms has left the impression that they were driven by spending cuts.

In fact, the changes represented a shifting of resources to where the system is most in need.

"New Brunswickers have to view this and say, 'Why would these changes be made if they're not saving any money?'" Rocca said. "They're certainly not doing it to gain political capital. They're losing political capital.



Luigi Rocca sat on the Horizon Health Network board from 2012 to 2016. (Luigi Rocca/Submitted)


"To me, the only logical explanation is that the professionals running the system think we should make these changes to make the overall system more sustainable."

Without reforms, unplanned shutdowns, like the week-long closure of services at the Campbellton hospital last fall, will become more frequent, harder to manage and riskier to patients, he said.

"If we can't even make these relatively small decisions to re-divert resources — these are not cuts, they're a re-diversion of resources — I don't know how we're going to fix things."

Critical of Vickers

Rocca said during his time on the board, members had a range of affiliations but never acted based on those loyalties.

As a former Liberal supporter himself, he said he's particularly upset that party leader Kevin Vickers criticized the reforms without offering a clear plan on how he'd tackle a staffing shortage and an aging population.

"When I see Kevin Vickers on social media inciting fear about what he calls cuts … it is absolutely disgusting to me," he said.
 

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers says, if it came to it, he would ask House Speaker Daniel Guitard to step down and vote with the party to defeat PC government. (CBC)


The Liberal attacks are validating the sometimes irrational fears of New Brunswickers who aren't fully informed about the larger context, Rocca added. "They're pouring gasoline on the fire."

Vickers said Feb. 18 that he would develop a "comprehensive strategy" for health care that would include greater use of nurse practitioners and advanced paramedics, but he had few details on how a Liberal government would tackle the larger demographic challenges.

"You'll definitely have it during the election," he said.

During Rocca's time on the Horizon board, the Gallant government overruled a Horizon plan to close the surgery program at the Charlotte County Hospital in St. Stephen.

After then-Premier Brian Gallant said he wanted the program to stay open, Horizon complied — but soon had to deal with a shortage of nurses.

The Gallant Liberals also rejected a sweeping 2015 proposal that would have seen more sweeping changes than what the PCs proposed, including the complete shutdown of the six emergency departments on last month's list and two others.

• Deeper cuts to emergency rooms, hospitals outlined in 2014 health plan

"There's been an extraordinary reluctance to make decisions that absolutely have to be made to help our system not collapse under its own weight," Rocca said.

"Until the political interference is removed, and until governments allow the RHAs to do their job, we're going to have a really tough time."

Rocca pointed to the Saint John heart centre as an example of a top-quality service that can't realistically exist province-wide.

If he has a heart attack in Moncton, he said, he might not survive if he can't be stabilized en route to Saint John.

"Does that mean we have to have a heart centre in Moncton, too? And Fredericton? And Edmundston? And Campbellton? Absolutely not," he said. "We can't afford that. No one can afford that."

Board dispute

Last week, Vitalité board member Norma McGraw resigned, saying the board had not had a chance to vote on the emergency department changes before the plan was announced publicly.

That contradicted Lanteigne's comments to the legislature's public accounts committee on Feb. 19, where he said there had been a vote on a resolution at a Dec. 10 board meeting.

• Vice-chair of the Vitalité health network's board resigns over health reform plan

Since McGraw's resignation, two other Vitalité board members have backed her version of events.
Rocca said a lack of detailed information was never a problem when he was on the Horizon board.

"We were sent massive amounts of information to prepare for those meetings," he said.

"I had never had any issue whatsoever in the four years I was on the board in having too little information. I always had ample information to make decisions. I can't comment on the stories I've read about, but it's surprising to me that that happened."

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82 Comments

David Amos
Methinks Luigi Rocca and I should have a long talk about many things but the top of the list is why there is a "Stay" on my Medicare Card N'esy Pas?


Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Don't you worry the poor man David, he is likely all "spun out" after this bit of spin.


David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: He did not return my call 

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: BTW I saved the thread that went "Poof" 

 

Shawn Tabor
Hit the nail on the head, good article.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Shawn Tabor:
Just more spin.

David Amos 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: YUP

David Amos 

Reply to @Shawn Tabor: NOPE

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David Allgood joins Dentons

David Allgood, Executive Vice-President and General Counsel at RBC for the past 15 years, has joined Dentons' Toronto office as Counsel  

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ACC launches Canadian recruitment drive

Photo: Brett Gundlock/National Post

Drew Hasselback March 30, 2011
7:08 AM EDT

The Association of Corporate Counsel is staking out more turf in Canada.

This week the ACC is sending out letters to advise members that it is opening a permanent office in Canada and moving to set up new chapters in Western Canada. It’s also sending out letters to solicit new members as part of a “spring recruitment drive.”

The ACC is headquartered in Washington, but is a global organization with 26,000 members and chapters in more than 75 countries. It currently has chapters in Ontario and Quebec, but is looking westward to serve potential members in places like Vancouver and Calgary. The recruitment letter, which is co-signed by David Allgood, general counsel to Royal Bank of Canada and secretary to ACC’s Board of Directors, and Martine Turcotte, chief legal and regulatory officer with Bell Canada and a member of ACC’s board, states:

“We, the undersigned, are members of the Association of Corporate Counsel and invite you to consider joining as well. We appreciate in-house counsel these days can belong to multiple industry groups, and we believe ACC should be top of that list.”

The ACC has stepped up its presence in Canada following some recent events with a rival group for in-house lawyers, the Canadian Corporate Counsel Association. The CCCA is a subgroup of the Canadian Bar Association, and the CBA recently replaced CCCA’s leadership following a lengthy budget dispute.

“I think we’re always in a continuous membership drive. We’re still pretty young in Canada and we’ve had tremendous growth, says Sanjeev Dhawan, a senior counsel at Hydro One Networks Inc. and president of the ACC’s Ontario chapter.

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http://davidamos.blogspot.com/2006/05/harper-and-bankers.html

Harper and Bankers

Just Dave

May 10th, 2006
Prime Minister Stephen Harper,
Minister of Public Safety, Stockwell Day,
President of the Treasury Board, John Baird,
Ministers James Flaherty, and Vic Toews
C/o Bill Casey MP
103 Albion Street South,
Amherst, NS, B4H 2X2

Franky Boy McKenna, Deputy Chair,
John Bragg and John Thompson, Directors
Chris Montague Legal Counsel
C/o Jill Crosby, Bank Manager
TD Financial Group
620 Main Street
Sussex, NB, E4E 5L4

W. Geoffrey Beattie, Director
David Allgood, Legal Counsel,
C/o Sharon Armstrong, Bank Manager
Royal Bank of Canada
644 Main Street
Sussex, NB, E4E 7H9

John Manley PC, Director and
E. Jennifer Warren, Legal Counsel
C/o Maria Cormie, Bank Manager
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce
761 Main St,
Moncton, NB. E1C 1E5

RE: Blowing the whistle on big banks and corrupt politicians too.

Hey,

Flaherty’s budget looming on the horizon tonight is gonna get the big OK from the Bloc EH? Well a mean old bike mechanic in the Maritimes has been waiting to chuck a wrench in the works of many a crooked beancounter. I just served your offices in hand some of the same material that Andre Arthur MP and Senator Kinsella received before the 39th Parliament began. I am also giving you other material and a political rant that they did not receive. The legal counsel of all the monstrous Canadian banks have shown me their arses, two for a month and three for almost two years. It is high time to boot you bankers out off bed with the corrupt politicians you depend on to cover up wrongs or sue you bastards too. N’est pas?
You can expect to see litigation against the Crown soon. The severe of lack integrity of people employed in public service to protect the public interests has caused me to prosecute a matter of public trust in Pro Se fashion. As is my right. I will do my best to hold accountable all those in public office, public service and the lawyers etc that have acted wrongfully against me. In the past I filed forms in the public record and in confidence, argued cops, sued treasury agents, lawyers, judges, an Attorney General who aspires to be a Governor and even a high priest. To no avail, I made thousands of phone calls, sent many more emails and sent mountains of letters proving my concerns and sincerity. To date no one has ever called me a liar but all of it was ignored all the same. If there were such a thing as an honest cop, lawyer or politician they could never deny that it is ridiculous that a whistleblower would have to go to such lengths to attempt to see Justice served in two purported Democracies. Pursuant to my quest for Justice, you will find enclosed hard copy of the material that I promised I would send to you before we meet in court. The copy of wiretap tape # 139 that all law enforcement authorities in Canada and the USA have refused investigate should be of the greatest concern to all of you right away. It is served upon you in confidence as officers of the court. Prepare to argue me about many more tapes and cases of other documents. The bankers and I may be arguing the Securities, Bank and Tax Fraud in the USA sooner than they think. The AT&T dudes should have known police surveillance tapes when they heard them. EH?
Whether you admit it or not, I know I have served upon you some of the irrefutable evidence that should have warranted the process to impeach George W. Bush years ago. All who sat in the 37th, 38th and now the 39th Parliament know why the Yankee DHS tried to take me away to Cuba on April 1st, 2003. It was because of my legitimate efforts to expose Bush and his cohorts BEFORE the War on Iraq began. For years legions of politicians, lawyers, cops, bankers and priests proved an Orwellian truth as they laughed at my ethical efforts to defend the rights and interests of my Clan. "In the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" EH? Do you think your banks’ investors will laugh like your lawyers did? By law and the rules of your professions you must conduct yourselves ethically and hold matters in confidence. I do not. Now it is a rebel rouser’s turn to laugh as you turn page. Awful truths will put your fancy panties in a knot yet make me feel as free as my big balls do under my kilt. J
Please fell free to sue me if you disagree but you, Stevey Boy Harper got your party its mandate with rhetoric claiming to crack down on crime and hold the government accountable. Now that Conservatives have had the reigns of power for over three months, Stockwell Day at the very least must be well aware of all the secrets the two previous liberal governments kept from you and us Common Canadian Citizens. The secrets about me that most other Canadians do not give a damn about, do concern me greatly. Ask the Commissioner, John Reid, he must know of the cover up of my efforts to expose the well known rampant cross border public corruption that has caused my little Clan to suffer so. His office hung up on me on the very day he was speaking about the Conservatives’ new rules to Parliament. No doubt he knows of the evidence I have provided over the years to many Canadian law enforcement authorities that is considered a matter of public safety. Yet we all know it is not. Nevertheless it has caused three very corrupt Canadian Federal governments and all Provincial governments to willfully support the malice of Yankee State and Federal governments acting wrongfully against me. WHY?
Now Harper has shown us his true colours, too bad for you that the DHS did not manage to take me away to Cuba. EH Mr. Day? I must ask you in court someday soon if you have listened to the original wiretap tapes that I provided to CSIS and the RCMP before and after the federal election in 2004. It was done before I was falsely imprisoned in a Yankee jail. Why did the nasty Canadian Consulate officers in Boston refuse to accept any more of the Yankee wiretap tapes that my wife tried to give to them while I sat in jail held under the charges of "other" without bail or even being legally arrested or charged? As I sat in a jail in Beantown Eliot Spitzer, a Yankee in New York made the big score with my info. Yet he allowed Morgan Stanley to sue my wife? The 38th Parliament continued to ignore my plight throughout its mandate. As we all watched Bush pull off another very questionable election it appears only I saw Count Peter-Hans Kolvenbach fly to the USA to speak in aid of the very evil smoke and mirror show. EH?
Whereas all Canadian authorities have ignored my pleas for assistance for three years, I must sue the Crown to seek relief under the Charter for my government’s deliberate assistance in malicious prosecution and false imprisonment etc. Did you politicians think I was kidding when I said it in January on CTV News? The smirking newsman, Stevey Boy Murphy asked me clearly and I answered him plainly. It was watched live all over the Maritimes just minutes before the only time I was ever allowed to debate dumb Andy Scott in front of a live crowd as I ran against him for his seat in Parliament. Many common folks heard me say it and have commented about it in the months since. Some of them must have questioned some of their various MPs by now. I watched a friend confront his MP, Greg Thompson in front folks of two ridings. He gave all other candidates running against two seated Conservatives a copy of the letter he served upon Thompson in hand. Now you have your copy too. Thompson in front of witnesses promised to respond in writing to his constituent before polling day three months ago. Just as I suspected, the new Cabinet Minister broke his promise. I know for a fact in 2005 Greg Thompson, Bill Casey and Andy Scott ignored other constituents of theirs who brought hard copy of my material to their local offices personally while I was being illegally prosecuted in the USA. Obviously our MPs Liberal or Conservative have no respect for their own constituents if they are kin or friends of mine. EH?
Check the letter that Landslide Annie McLellan sent to me when she had Stockwell Day ‘s day job. Clearly she was compelled to answer me after so many high placed Yankees had already done so. She did what all Martinites have done in the past and blamed one of Chretien’s arseholes, Wayne Easter for my plight as a whistleblower. Stockwell Day did you get off your Jet Ski to follow the lead of liberals such as a dumb PEI farmer and a very malicious political lawyer from Nova Scotia? You will not provide me any assistance whatsoever as is required by the mandate of your office? None of your underlings even the nervous Marshal dude will do me the simple courtesy of calling me back just like your political cohorts never did? Your little Newfy buddy, Rob Moore forgot something just as Landslide Annie as the Minister of Justice did when Easter was Solicitor General. She did not have any idea what mechanism a layman would employ to hold many a corrupt Parliamentarian accountable. The answer is so simple to me. Sue the Bastards. Didn’t anyone notice I have done it in the past to many Yankees? I have changed my style and waited until some very corrupt public servants were out of public office so that they could not employ the weight of a corrupt justice system against me. Vic Toews will have his job cut out trying to defend the malice of all three recent government mandates two of them liberal against one Proud Canadian. EH? J
Whereas Federal Court in Canada does not allow me the right to a trial by jury and its Commissioner David Gourdeau has shown his arse too, I plan to do a double check in the USA. With luck, at about the same time my matters may begin in Fredericton, I will be seeking a jury in a Yankee Federal Court with a lawsuit against some very crooked Canadian political lawyers and their many Yankee associates acting against other Canadians, Yankees and me. In the "mean" time I have been lining up ducks while Jumping Jimmy Flaherty was drop kicking his wicked budget past the very confused corrupt clucking Chickenshits sitting as the opposition in the Chicken House. Tonight byway of the Bloc I am making my best fiercely political efforts to see that all Conservatives will be looking for a new day job far from the Hill in Upper Canada. Then I will give this material to other bankers when I judge the time is right. Any great mechanic knows that there is true magic in the timing of things. If a crook in opposition blinks and mentions me in a public forum even after the budget is allowed, it will be all over but the crying for George W, Bush and his lapdog, Stevey Boy Harper. Who may wish to mingle with the media soon is interesting. EH?
If the bankers who did not wish to call me back last month want this material explained, it is the task of the Thomson dudes, Jealous Johnny Manley and Franky Boy McKenna to do now. I did my best to make certain they knew everything over the years. The Thomson dudes claim to know everything that goes on in court in Canada and the USA. The Upper Canadian lawyer was Minister of Finance etc in the 37th Parliament, and the Maritimer was our Ambassador to the USA under the mandate of the 38th. They can explain the malice of Landslide Annie and her many cohorts in support of corrupt bankers etc. Better yet let the Yankee lawyer Michael Hefler and his Canadian counterpart Deborah Alexander explain their support of Putnam Investments, Brian Mulroney, Cendant Corp. and Franky McKenna’s old BMO crowd etc. Tell me, do ya think my name came up when they cooked a little deal between Citigroup and Scotia Bank recently? Jennifer Warren should be capable of explaining why Garfield Emerson quit the Rogers outfit recently. Geoffrey Beattie of Thomson Corp no doubt can explain why David Allgood is playing dumb. Need I say that the brotherhood of the bar and bankers make me as sick as politicians do?
The reason I ran against the aptly named lawyer, Rob Moore in 2004 should be painfully clear to all Canadians in recent days. Stevey Boy Harper is proving to all that he is a lapdog for Bush just like Franky Boy McKenna said of him years ago. I do not have put one word in the text of this letter in support of what many Proud Canadians are agreeing with in Frank Boy’s political dogma speech years ago in support of the reelection of Rotten Ralphy Goodale. The fact that Moore is now Canada’s Parliamentary Secretary for the Minister of Justice greatly offends me. All Canadians have the right to know why. If he or any other Canadian lawyer had acted as a proper officer of the court then my Clan would not be suffering from many wrongs right now. The Yankee Carpetbagger, David Lutz whom I had given this material to BEFORE Moore was elected in 2004 must agree. I am very curious what Rob Moore will say in Parliament in his own defense when I put him and Lutz in bed in a Canadian complaint.
Rob Moore can explain to all Canadians why I think the blood of four very honourable Canadian soldiers and countless others can be found on his hands and that of his cohorts. In June of 2004 during a debate at the Moss Glen Legion we were questioned in front of many people including David Lutz, I stated my position clearly with regards to War. In defense of our warriors I said that they must get the best training and weapons possible, then be kept home to defend our country. That is their job. Lutz a Yankee draft dodger nodded in agreement. Moore did not argue me because he did not need to. Less is more for Moore when matters are a sure thing. The Blue Coat got the seat he expected to win in Fundy just like my dog would have if she had worn his coat. However Moore and Lutz are lessor men than I because of their inaction as purportedly ethical men. If the lawyers in Moore and Lutz disagreed with all I wrote of them since, why didn’t they sue me to protect their reputations? The answer is the same as I have proven in the turncoat Bad Boy Billy Matthews versus Byron Prior matter in Newfoundland. Politically appointed Judges like Derek Green or lawyers like Bernard Roy controlling the show in court or Inquiry only cover up and delay awful truths. It is important that public corruption be argued in public view quickly. Thus I will sue Crown. Before anyone attempts to deny what I have just stated, study this material closely. Look how sending this material to any of you is truly redundant. The evidence that you or your associates and I crossed have paths many times in the past is irrefutable despite the fact that I can prove my many letters, phone calls and emails that I sent over the years. Turn the page, lawyers. It gets worse for you J
If any of you truly do not know who I am, it is the Fed’s fault, not mine. I can easily prove that the Feds have done no service whatsoever for the public they have an obligation to serve. The fact that the Feds have done their worst to keep my legitimate actions a whistleblower secret with false claims such as confidentiality or public security further serves to prove my point about rampant public corruption. To refute the false claims of secrecy, I must point out that much of my work can still be found in the public record of many courts in Canada, the USA and on the Internet as well. Last fall my wife saw a copy of wiretap tape # 139 in the docket of a Yankee court that anyone could listen to. I had filed that copy in a sealed envelope with that court in order to protect the Fourth Amendment Rights of the people recorded on it. As you can see by the documents I have provided that one year ago the District Attorney in Boston lost the many original wiretap tapes that I gave him in court in 2004. Nothing yet has been said about my lawyer in the USA sending 9 original wiretap tapes to the Senate Judiciary Committee in Congress this year on February 7th. So much for Yankees upholding the law EH? Canadians are no better.
As you can see despite my wife and my lawyer’s best efforts to stop them, the Yankees seized our home without warrants or due process of law. A couple more Yankee bankers and insurance dudes made out like the bandits they are. This was done while my children and I were in Canada last summer without a home. Nobody in Canada or the UN even bothered to care about our Human Rights. All of my pleas to the spendthrifts Adrienne Clarkson, Pierre Pettigrew and their replacements Michaelle Jean, Petey Baby MacKay were ignored despite our Canadian birthright and our rights under the Charter. Canada supported the theft of our property including many original wiretap tapes I had in my possession in our home.
I have been recently informed that Yankees have sold all of my possessions at a public auction including the wiretap tapes. However, much to chagrin of Yankees, I have proven that I have many more wiretap tapes in Canada and elsewhere. The aforesaid malicious auction of my property was done while my Clan is still awaiting a long delayed trial about the illegal actions against us. Our property was supposed to be safely stored according to the rules of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Department of Public Safety until the matter was resolved. This latest malice begs the obvious question..
Whereas Yankee law enforcement authorities feel free to violate their Constitution and sell wiretap tapes of their citizens at public auction, why can’t I do the same? Interesting question. EH? Why should I as a Canadian Citizen care about the Civil Rights of Yankee mobsters and their families anymore when their evil government does not? Methinks I should sell a few on EBAY in Europe to see if I can recoup some of my losses ASAP. I could use the funds from the sale of the wiretap tapes to sue many lawyers etc in the USA and Canada. Look at the very dumb answers I got in 2003 from a crooked District Attorney in Massachusetts and the corrupt US Attorney in New Hampshire, before you try to claim that what I would be doing is illegal. The former is a good friend of Argeo P. Cellucci and the latter enforces federal code in the State where I now permanently reside. Both Yankees claim the tapes are not what I say they are but merely evidence in a probate action? What planet do Yankee lawyers come from?
I can’t be the only person on this planet who wishes to see George W. Bush impeached ASAP. Ask the fat dumb happy Yankee Michael Moore before you disagree. These tapes may fetch quite a price from story hungry dudes such as he. Truth is stranger than fiction and far more marketable and profitable with less money spent in production using real people instead of big name actors. Even clever lawyers must admit that wiretap tape # 139 makes one wonder what happened next. EH? Stay tuned dudes. Small portions of other tapes may be in your email inbox for you to listen to. Other politicians can read the text of this letter and listen to their Parliamentary email along with the rest of mine they have ignored for over three years. The many words of a fiercely political rant may be added as a postscript to the text of this letter and sent to the government’s opposition first. I must be fair. You dudes got this letter first. My next email may cause quite a stir amongst the clucking Chickenshits in the House. Canadians should find it very interesting indeed if one or more the smiling bastards decide to mention my name to the Speaker.
How they vote against the political pollution of hot air from the windbags of Baird and Flaherty that is stinking up the House is critical to our future. I see no need to let all the cats out of the bag in this letter to you but for fun just check my work. See me teasing Derek Burney and his boss Brian Mulroney? They know the Barbarian at the gate who is me knows what lawyers hold the keys that lock all political parties together on both sides of the 49th parallel. One nasty Yankee’s name is Harper too. J
That smiling bastard’s law office ain’t too far from the UN. EH? Depending how far left you are Michael Ignatieff,Canada’s Prince of Darkness or our Sexist Cerebral man knows the Yankee Harper quite well. Derek Burney and Karl Rove as aymen or Louis Freeh and the new General Counsel of the FBI as lawyers would likely agree with little ol me and on one thing. It is that bigassed Yankee lawyers like the one named Harper makes little liberal lawyers such as Humpty Dumpty, Land Slide Annie, Asinine Allan Rock, Franky Boy McKenna, and Johnny Jealous Manley look like the little lost puppies truly they are. Perhaps bankers etc will want Franky Boy McKenna to call some crooked cop he knows hanging out in his hometown to figure out how to handle me now. Before you do, check my work that I have provided to you to see what I have already given you many clues not to. I have had enough police harassment for any ten men to stand. My ghost or I will sue every cop that has tried to stop me from justifiably and legally seeking justice. There is no middle ground for any honest man to stand on in my battles against very corrupt justice systems in two purported Democracies. The interests of investors in many banks would be better served if the bankers chastised in public view a certain few employees who deliberately failed to uphold the law and protect the public’s interests invested in their bank and many other publicly held companies. From a Canadian’s perspective of the world I know that the interests of all Canadians are bought and sold on Yankee stock markets everyday. I know of many lawyers who should be knocked off their high horses ASAP. In fact I just named some them. EH?
Canadian politicians should know this before the vote on the budget becomes a matter of history. I truly believe that Conservatives will continue to follow Bush’s lead for the benefit of the bankers whose HQ’s surround Flaherty’s office. Like Bush he will try to take our country deep into debt. Bankers and politicians will do what they wish with the world, tis true. Trust that I don’t care the more the merrier for me in litigation. You dudes are about to meet a rather formidable layman in court. I have been studying and arguing law night and day for four years, all the while clearing each and every hurtle that rampant public corruption has thrown into my path to Justice. I will not pity any lawyer who chooses to stand in court beside the likes of Franky Boy, Landslide Annie and Humpty Dumpty. You can see that Harper has ignored the words of the Accountability Act with doubletalk if his pals need money for their party war chests. Our little Lord of NB and his buddy Brad Green affirmed that they knew the same truths that Rob Moore, Franky Boy and Landslide Annie did years ago. It was within a few days of the election and Humpty Dumpty’s Third World boat named after his wife was caught in Nova Scotia bringing cocaine to Canada along with more Blood Coal. Humpty Dumpty employed lawyer’s rhetoric and recused himself and Landslide Annie’s underlings made the matter evaporate. Harper just looked away in support even as Humpty Dumpty picked Franky Boy to be our Ambassador within the year to obviously support the Yankee’s malicious persecution of me rather than act within the scope of his employment as a public servant. If bankers do not understand my words, blame your own lawyers. David Allgood should have walked the talk of Chris Montague’s words about Red Flags in his speech on Feb 11th 2005 and called me back if he did not wish to argue me in court. When I called both of them Deborah Alexander, Ronald Sirkis and Jennifer Warren were past too late. They knew of wiretap tapes and Bank Fraud etc since 2004.
This year after the Conservative government accepted Franky Boy’s resignation and well before the TD Financial Group hired Franky Boy, I called his spokesperson Ruth McCrae. After a minor spit and chew ensued, she told me to sue her along with the law firm of McInnes and Cooper. A liberal talk show host Tom Young will soon affirm that I do not have to be asked twice to sue someone but I did call many partners of the aforesaid law firm to see if they agreed with Franky Boy and his outspoken gal. The words of the lawyer Costello, a partner who argues NB Power on behalf of the Venezuela and the silence of the rest affirmed that all apparently stood with McKenna including some of the former partners of Paterson and Palmer. Furthermore, Franky Boy should have disclosed everything about a potential lawsuit etc to the TD Financial dudes before accepting his new position. However I was very open and very honest with them as soon as I was aware of his new job. Now that Franky Boy and I are both back home in our old stomping grounds and I am on the warpath, John Manley may quit hustling the Ottawa Senators hockey team to CIBC. It would be wise to try to explain why Franky Boy praised Yankee success at pond hockey to the law partners of Burns and Levenson whom he partied with last fall instead of being a proper public servant and discussing with Yankees the failings of their partner, my Guardian Ad Litem Brian Bixby. J
For my benefit, I made it a point to look into Stevey Boy Harper’s pale blue eyes on June 19th, 2004 when he stopped in Sussex for ice cream the day after I debated Rob Moore the first time. We both knew each other at a glance. Lets just say I found nothing I admired behind Stevey Boy’s eyes. His soul is far meaner than Rob Moore’s. With luck on my side, this year my fellow Maritimers should be entertained and educated in a three-ring circus of a long awaited monumental hoe-down in court. Our little Lord’s justice system that his buddy, Cleveland Allaby was well paid to study in secret years ago will be the unwilling confused ringmaster to oversee the affair. When it comes to being showmen Franky Boy and I are on and even keel. We are both smiling bastards who crack a lot of jokes fearlessly in front of crowds. To his advantage, he is a lawyer whereas I am not. He is famous whereas I am not. Franky Boy is very wealthy, whereas I am not. On the other hand, I am honest whereas he is not. I have many friends that I can trust, whereas he does not. I have much evidence of many crimes he has covered up in his personal pursuit of lucre, whereas he has only fancy legal doubletalk. Franky Boy has climbed high up on the crooked totem pole of affluence pedaling his influence over common Maritimers without a common man’s conscience that is lost to all lawyers. Franky Boy and his many pals in banks and companies such as the Carlyle Group may gain the whole world at the expense of their own souls. However one pigheaded ethical soul will try hard to hold them all accountable by just knocking a few off their high horses. I also know there are many souls in the Maritimes who were entertained and understand the meaning of the old story of David versus Goliath or my name ain’t Dave. Watch me look into the eyes of the people I pick for a jury before I start chucking rocks in court.
Stevey Boy Harper and his little lawyer Rob Moore would not understand why I am humming the old tune sung the dude who loved to hang around mobsters but many other old farts like me will. They will understand why I am writing the letter in April and delivering it in hand to my MP Bill Casey in May. (I am sending Duccepe and Fortier the same material Allan Rock and Franky Boy received last May) To give the devil his due, that old dead Yankee Franky Boy sang "That’s Life" very well. Methinks that Stevey Boy’s big mistake was following the directions of Derek Burney and Karl Rove too closely. He really should learn to think for himself. He is flying too high in April for his own good in May. It seems that Harper don’t even know that what goes up always comes down. The higher they go the harder they fall. Ask Humpty Dumpty. The clucking chickens in opposition may shoot his government down in May without the effect he desires. To challenge the opposition to unseat him just because he is momentarily higher in the polls is dumb beyond belief. If Mulroney and his cohorts think Harper can win a majority in the House next time around simply by blaming the opposition for causing the election, they do not remember Humpty Dumpty’s big faux pas last year. I sincerely hope that next week holds a very bad day for many nasty political Maritimers who have kissed Upper Canadian fat fancy arses for years. It has always been Hard Times in the Maritimes and it is their fault. N’est Pas?
Time will tell the tale. Right now I can only wish that my efforts help knock Jumping Jimmy Flaherty out of his new jump boots and into the Newfy, Crosbie’s old mukluks from 1979. With any luck at all Luc Lavoie will not be so lucky anymore. He and all the other all clucking Conservatives will start singing for more Tequila from Sheila as Dominic LeBlanc learns how to play his Daddy’s kazoo. As I look towards the horizon in the direction of far off Upper Canada, I will dream of Petey Baby MacKay and his very punky hunky dory sinking beneath the waves of bullshit that has kept him afloat for years. There is no denying that I will chuckle as I imagine his very nasty ex sweetyfart Belinda Baby picking up the phone and calling Magna Entertainment’s Yankee VP Argeo P. Cellucci and its General Counsel Don Amos. Her Big Daddy Franky may want to rip them new arseholes for in order to shove each other’s head into. Clearly they did not do a good job protecting the interests of Stronach’s publicly held company from one pigheaded Maritimer who is serious gambling man in the big game called New World Order. I am still gambling that there is no honour amongst thieves and somebody will blink in order to protect their own butt. I too am wondering and ain’t betting on the ethics of any politician. For instance only a fool would bet on the ethics of Andre Arthur the Independent MP and if he will quit being as quiet as a mouse in the House. If the government goes down, I doubt he will get elected again. He had his chance to do the right thing just as Chucky Cadman did years ago. The Yankee midterm election is the biggest game in the world right now. Ask my Clan’s Senator Teddy Kennedy. J
I will wager that I do know why nobody wants to talk to or about me. The dark horse in this game is the one who will blink, when and where. Knowing who won’t say a word is easy. Strangely predicting who may be honest is tough. How sad is that? For instance Senator Kinsella’s malice against me was a nobrainer. I expected it about as much as that he would vote for Lynch in Fredericton. On the other hand Andre Arthur had no ethical reason whatsoever to ignore me particularly after reading things he has said in the past. His recent appointment to oversee the CRTC proves to me that he is a crooked as Hell. He must have known he was finally free from all the lawyers that had once chastised him in the past. They cannot hold him accountable for whatever he says in the House to a nationwide audience as an MP like they once did when he spoke on local radio. The chickenshit, Andre Arthur may be laying back and waiting for just the right point in time to start clucking into the Parliamentary record to make history in his own best interests. I don’t know. Nor do I care if he has a plan or is just holding to a backroom deal. I do know when we talked on the phone months ago, I could tell that he did not have any balls at all. The silence of a former big talking talk show host from Quebec spoke volumes to me months ago about why that Frenchman won’t mingle with the media he now oversees. His appointment to the committee that oversees the very dudes who once tortured him, stinks of backroom deal and a political payoff to me. All Andre Arthur or anyone else in the House had to do this month or in the years before was to have the sand to stand up and ask the Speaker in a question period on the record simply state the following. "Who the Hell is David Raymond Amos and what the Hell is talking about?" There I even wrote the script for him just in case he or anyone sprouts some testicles real soon. If anyone acts like an ethical Parliamentarian, it will be Rob Moore’s task to explain my affairs to the House. I will lay odds that if Andre Arthur or anyone else were certain that they could profit rather than suffer from such few words, they would. love to make history and become the hero who saved Democracy for us all.
Nobody will talk to me for the same reason Arthur is silent to everyone else. It is based in political deceit. Justice is always a matter of political will rather than the way that it should be. I am just wise enough to know I can be the most effective in finding a little justice when the political process is flux. Bernie Shapiro’s office and that of his fellow crook, Jean Fournier’s have denied receiving anything of mine from Andre Arthur or Noel Kinsella. That makes me understand that I am on the right track this time. When Shapiro’s office called me last year, they were nervous campers after I had made Parliament uphold an act and give Fournier a job so that I could complain to him about Senator Joe Day. The far from ethical parliamentary counselors are quite likely hiding under a rug somewhere in the House and praying Baird’s Accountability Act replaces them soon. Shapiro and Fournier are just playing dumb while waiting to duck out the back and scurry into the sunset with unearned severance pays in their purses. Once they are all out of public service, they will become just a few more paragraphs to me in a future complaint against many individuals out of public service I plan to sue. The rats abandoning Humpty Dumpty’s boat like David Dingwall and Howie Wilson should offend anyone with half a mind. Most ordinary folks have all but forgotten the Dingwall affair but I doubt most did not even know who the dude Howie Wilson was or how he assisted Landslide Annie in making Humpty Dumpty’s doings with Tainted Blood disappear on everyone else’s watch but mine. Does anyone but me remember where the bad blood came from and who made the deal with whom? I do. This brings me to why I find the Bloc so interesting these days. I know Ducceppe is a crooked as the rest but some other Bloc may want to fill his shoes. Humpty Dumpty’s loss was a given, to me. The loss of the Bloc and the Conservative gain was a surprise to everyone. It would be truly comical if their leader, Ducceppe were to act ethically on my behalf after all these years. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that he could be the next PM if the Bloc had the majority next time around. The other parties could be so decimated by his integrity that maybe a legion of Independents would inhabit the House. Less of a pipe dream would be that perhaps the Bloc could get the ten seats in Quebec from the Conservatives and truly make the Liberal history as well. C’est Vrai? I know what I just stated seems crazy but think about it for a minute. Ignore what crooked liberals such as the local talk show host, Tom Young may say of me being a nut. He retracted "the fool for a client spiel" in another matter when it suited his political agenda. He knows I was not nuts in my predictions about picking Speakers, the Tanker Malley affair or wiretap tapes too. Young was not wise to challenge a man such as I to sue him on live radio. I ain’t that foolish not to sue Jennifer Warren and Rogers Media J
. Whatever liberals such as Young and his cohorts in Rogers say about me negative or otherwise on the radio almost two years later is gravy after I had made my mission known byway of his own program. I openly declared that it was my Securities Fraud issues that should most concern my fellow Maritimers. Soon it is my turn to fall silent in the text of this letter anyway. However before I do become truly silent you may wish to know that some of you will receive this letter in your email and see it posted on the Internet at about the same time the budget vote becomes history. I cannot give you time to run political damage control. I have long understood your wicked game of hear, no evil, see no evil and speak no evil for your own benefit and not the people you claim to serve. I know that the things like Freedom and Justice that lawyers claim are so important in a Democracy are merely myths. Bankers and lawyers know as well as I that Freedom does not have prayer because Justice is bought and sold everyday to the highest bidder in the marketplace and the courts. Money is all the beancounters care about as they count the percentage points of gain and lawyers follow suit in their fees for assisting in the malice against us all. The corrupt Yankees that you people support have taught me a lot about how to deal with many crooked Canadians. The answer is simple. Make Justice a matter of political will particularly in a time of War.
Now that we all understand the wicked game, why mince words anymore? I am raising the stakes and laying some more of my cards on table before I summons you all to court. You do not have much time to decide if I am bluffing or not. Lets just say I have no doubt whatsoever why the blog in CTV W5 website was deleted recently after it had stood for almost a year. I save all blogs long before they are lost in cyber space. The words of the one within CTV’s W5 domain that was erased for the benefit of CIBC John Manley and the Thomson dudes will resurface somewhere else on the Internet in short order. Hard copy of the aforesaid blog and many others will be presented in various courts someday. Dempsey the lawyer, who has since fallen silent had apparently filed a complaint in BC about what anybody who has studied the banking profession knows to be true. Wise guys know the root of all evil is not exactly money but Filthy Lucre, the words that King James employed just once. Gain of control over the land is the name of the game. Money is just a clever paper tool that is based on nothing at all. The idea of money in the form of a banknote that is no longer based on gold but debt was invented and controlled by bankers and the same holds true for the notion of religion invented the banker’s cohorts the Roman who turned into priests of one god. It is money I must attack and seek because it is what the lawyers who made the rules for the benefit of bankers and priests claim I must do in order to play their wicked game. I did so out of the gate years ago. If you bother to check my work you will see that I employed my right to have the freedom to have no religion at all to attack what the smiling bastards hold most dear, their money.
The law is clear in matters of money and beancounters rely on such laws. It is against the law for a trustee to give money he holds in trust to any charity on his own accord. For a well-respected old lawyer to assist an ex FBI agent in his wrongs against the terms of a trust and without the knowledge and accent of the beneficiaries is interesting to say the least. To steal it and give it to a church that the beneficiaries have no faith in is particularly offensive especially when the Cardinal’s secretary is the offended person’s cousin. When I exposed to the Feds the fact that the crooks had also hid some of the stolen funds in a bank account in the name of a person whose estate was long closed, things got really bad. The people who are supposed to enforce the law turned against me for the benefit of crooked bankers. It took me awhile to understand why the Feds were behaving so poorly. The reason was all the pension funds of government employees controlled by Putnam Investments and the fact that they owned half of the Brookline Savings Bank, another publicly held company. Perhaps you dudes should read the fine print of the whistleblower form 211 that I filled out many years ago. Whereas bankers and priests employ many puppets in the form of politicians, lawyers, cops and priests to play their deadly game of World Control for them, it is the puppets I must deal with day to day. However I always knew who were sending the people to act against me. Bankers invented money and the miserable bastards known as Jesuits invented lawyers. Correct? The real nature of the wicked game is World Control or New World Order just as the carpetbaggers named Bush love to say. Before you dare to call me a liar, have the local liberal lawyer Dominic Leblanc and non elected Cabinet Minister Michael Fortier study the material I just sent to them. It is the same material Franky Boy McKenna, Deborah Alexander of the Scotia Bank and Petey Baby MacKay from Nova Scotia for example got back in 2004. As I said in the CTV blog it is just the tip of the iceberg. J
What I have just delivered in hand to the bankers and Bill Casey is different material than the liberals have ever received from me. Find the email within this material that the General Counsel of Bell Canada, Martine Turcotte sent me in 2004 and you will see that Bell Canada spent three days printing my files off the web. They still did not have it all by a long shot. Ask the serial killer and his cohorts the Feds about that simple fact. As I said earlier in this letter now that the Stevey Boy Harper, a lapdog for the Bush regime has shown all Canadians that his nasty arse is flying too high, it is high time that someone gives it a boot ASAP. I will take license and employ some of Franky Boy McKenna’s choice of words.
The only hope I see on the horizon in far off Parliament Hill to see that that our democracy is served can be found within the personal greed of members of the Bloc Quebecois. Yet that is the very party that wants to break up our country. Thus I think that what I see must be a mirage to give me false hope. All Canadians can see the Liberals are wandering around lost in the far from deserted halls of the House with no leader in sight. The Liberals crippled up old German Shepherd wants to talk to high school kids and the media in the Maritimes about the future of the liberal party but the kids and nobody else seems to care about Humpty Dumpty anymore. Everybody wants to talk to the Conservatives and they won’t talk to anybody unless Karl Rove and Derek Burney first bless the script. The annoying arsekissing terrier and boss of the NDP Jacky Jackass Layton is truly irrelevant. He has lost all credibility. Ask yourselves why the yapping little terrier is not willing to give the Conservatives the boot as he claims he did with the Liberals last year. Even Layton ‘s old buddy Bob Rae has quit the NDP and joined his old college roommate’s liberal crowd of wealthy thieves. Rae wants to lead liberals out of the desert for selfish reasons of his own. The first thing Rae, a pal of Landslide Annie bragged of on CTV the morning he announced he was running for leader was of his work within the Security Intelligence Review Committee. It seems he has chosen to forget my emails to him or the phone conversation we had late in the week before. I know Rae knows that Marion McGrath, the General Counsel of the SIRC has refused to do her god damned job just like Franky Boy’s old lieutenant Adleea Landry does. Because of that Bob Rae felt free pat to his own back about the work he did with the SIRC?
Marion MacGrath and many others whose names can be found within the enclosed documents have forever proven to me the malice of all politically appointed public servants. The cop, Dean Buzza of the arm of the RCMP known as IMET really pissed me off in March. I defy anyone to try to talk to the crooked lawyer, Paul Kennedy about him. IMET was created within a week or so of Ashcroft meeting with Easter in November of 2003. Amongst a host of public servants that know all too well what I say is true and ignore the law for personal gain is Rick Hancox and his cohorts within the New Brunswick Securities Commission. They are just like the lawyers of the Public Service Integrity Office, sneaky Howard Wilson, Bernard Shapiro, Jean T. Fournier and Paul Kennedy of the Public Complaints Against the RCMP crowd. All these people are worse than useless as tits on a bull. They are crooks. They should be fired and prosecuted immediately. At the very least the malicious public servants are definitely not entitled to severance pay a la David Dingwall.
There are many honest Canadians in the Maritimes looking for work. They could be hired to replace the corrupt politically appointed bureaucrats we have now. I am part of that public these bureaucrats etc are supposed to serve. I am also one of those over fifty folks that the CARP50 dudes hustle about where to invest our money. If the Cop Dean Buzza and his cohorts in IMET who had talked to CARP had done their job while I was running for a seat in Parliament and truly investigated the spike in Income Trust trading, many a banker etc would have had their panties in a knot for months. Instead the cops hush the CARP dudes up for the benefit of Rotten Ralphy Goodale and his banker buddies? Furthermore the far west Conservative M.K. Braaton deletes my words about Income Trusts from his blog after he allowed a Yankee Deputy Dog to attack my rep while running for a seat against his cohorts? Harper who claims Maritime roots and yet calls us defeatists has done a little service for all Canadians and unseated the wealthy corrupt liberals. More importantly he has proven in a timely fashion that he living is up to the Maritimer, Frank Boy’s description of him when he had a fine breakfast out west with the fancy former Minister of Finance two years ago. A true Maritimer who will never admit defeat has given many bankers who have a lot to lose fair warning that they should not side with Harper against me. J
Prior to printing this letter I will await the results of the budget vote. Just in case someone in the Bloc suprises me with a display of ethics. Yesterday and today I called many members of various entities known as Conservatives, Liberals, NDP, Bloc, US Congress, RCMP, FBI, CSIS, SRIC, the Fredericton Police Dept and New Brunswick Police Commission etc for the last time and waited one more day for someone honest to call me back. Nobody did and nobody ever will. Here is my humble opinion for what it is worth to the deaf ears of Upper Canadian bankers. Ed Clark should fire his new Deputy Chair of the TD Financial Group and his lawyer Chris Montague ASAP for the benefit of TD Bank’s shareholders. Lawyers and politicians are far easier to replace than repairing a bank’s damaged reputation. The same goes for the CIBC, John Manley and E. Jennifer Warren and of course the RBC and David Allgood.
Yea I know I am dreaming but at least you can never say that you did not know before I send the text of this letter in a email everywhere I can think of. That said guess who just played you all like fiddle? I not only made you litigants against me in my sad complaints but I may make this letter the introduction for a book that I have been writing for years. It is called "Pro Se Once Removed" as named in the first complaint that I ever filed. It is not a bad piece of work for a layman but I am far more proud of the second complaint I filed. I have not shown it to anyone other than litigants against me. It is a very rare Prima Facia complaint about legal malpractice that any lawyer should study. It has caused several Bills to be inspired in a very corrupt Yankee Statehouse. Thomson dudes should query it sometime. Two courts in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts must keep it in the public record forever. The matters began and ended in Dedham MA, hometown of Sumner Redstone and the stomping grounds of his old Harvard Law School pal, Charles J. Kickham Jr., my wife’s evil cousin. The matters were delayed and dismissed over a year after my opposition to Cardinal Law’s motion to dismiss was destroyed after the cases were removed illegally and doctored in federal court without any hearing whatsoever.
Clark Kent Irvin, the former Inspector General of the Department of Homeland Security should know all about Truth Justice and the American Way. Ask him if US District Court docket # 02-CV-11686-RGS or Norfolk Superior Court docket # 02 01113 are worth checking out. I legally signed the complaint in my wife’s name as her attorney in fact after she had suffered a breakdown because of the wrongful actions against her by her kin and the justice system over mere matters of money. The Yankee Court accepted the sad complaint and filed in the last hour of work before July 4th, 2002. Within weeks I gave the US Secretary of State his copy byway of the Ambassador Argeo P. Cellucci to remind Yankees why their forefathers rebelled against the Crown (No taxation without proper representation). The rest is history.
Now that I have chucked my wrench, I must deal with a far more important matter I have at hand. Whereas my family needs a roof over their heads, I looked around to see which Maritime crooks live handy to where I’m camped right now. I decided there are Three Stooges in each big party that I should sue soon. To the left I see the easiest of all, Whining Wayne Easter. Landslide Annie confirmed her pal’s malice towards me during the 37th Parliament. Franky Boy McKenna is the very political banker/lawyer who worked against me in the USA under the mandate of the 38th Parliament for the benefit of Yankee banks. Plus he really pissed me off when he had too much fun with my G.A.L. while my wife and kids were in the streets around Beantown. Franky Boy’s old pal Andy Scot is a close tie with the Newfy Bad Boy Billy Matthews as the dumbest and nastiest of all Maritime Parliamentarians. It is the failure of the NDP and the Conservatives that they sit in the 39th Parliament today. To the right, are Rob Moore, Greg Thompson and Bill Casey for reasons I already explained. These Maritime Stooges have properties to fill the bill of my Clan’s needs. I will sue them along with my G.A.L., Bixby’s law firm in Canada in order to seek some immediate relief from the wrongs. I love teasing hostile laymen with a temper. Thus Wayne Easter and Greg Thompson will be a lot of fun in court. Ask the goddamned biblepounders Cardinal Law or Pat Robertson’s song and dance man Johnny Never Been Good Ashcroft why I love to argue lawyers.
Canadian lawyers should consider the following. Whereas the Crown stood with the USA and the Holy See against me it has caused the Queen to lose Sovereign Immunity in the USA on two counts. As soon as I crossed an international border with the former Governor General’s blessings in hand and into a Yankee jail, all MPs should have paid attention. Instead they ignored the fact I was held under the charges of "other" before Clarkson made her last Speech from the Throne to allow the 38th Parliament to begin. J
This is no conspiracy theory, as liberal talk show hosts like to suggest. You are looking at hard copy of the proof of what I say is true. Clearly before I went into the Yankee jail, I had notified many Canadian authorities and my Yankee lawyer etc that my US Mail to the Canadian Consulate in Boston had been blocked and directed elsewhere and that my Canadian Mail to the General Counsel of the RCMP had disappeared. That is Mail Fraud practised by two governments of two countries on the same day in order to cover up a conspiracy against me. The Canadian Consulate finally did come to visit me in jail after a few days with prodding from my friends and relatives but my Yankee lawyer friend never did. The Canadian public servants were bearing hard copy of more false allegations that have since disappeared from the public record. I told the Consulate off and went back to my cell and said Bingo to myself. The nut of Sovereign Immunity in regards to the Crown, the Holy See and the USA was cracked not once but twice in October of 2004. You hold the proof in your hands. Call me crazy and put it in writing in fact, I Double Dog Dare Ya To.
In closing I confess I have no false illusions. Any man with half a mind has understood for years why I must prosecute matters Pro Se. Ethical lawyers and politicians do not exist. They created the myth called Justice to suit their own selfish ends. I have no doubt whatsoever the weight of a corrupt justice system will try hard to smother my complaints. I expect all you to maintain standard operating procedure and ignore me as our government acts wrongfully on your behalf. I also know some common men like me will not. Some of us vote and invest money too. Some of us know our rights and interests are bought and sold on Yankee stock markets everyday for the benefit of crooks that ignore the public trust. Some of us are broke and can’t vote but are fierce political animals when the evils of longstanding governments are insufferable. It is not only our right but it is our duty to do so. I also know that many Canadians were raised to Hate War and are proud that much of the World recognizes us as Peacekeepers. Even the dumb as a post Stevey Boy Harper, a Canadian lapdog of the Yankee moron, George W. Bush and the Yankee Norfolk County Sheriff and his equally dumb Deputy Dog, Robert F. O’Meara must know at least that.

Cya’ll in Court:)

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
PO Box 234
Apohaqui, NB E5P 3G2

posted by David R. Amos at 8:38 PM

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 David Raymond Amos said...

Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 21:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: Scary Dean Roger Ray, the FBI, and the RCMP
To: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, fbinhct@leo.gov, deanr0032@hotmail.com, samperrier@hotmail.com, lorraineroche@gov.nl.ca, alltrue@nl.rogers.com
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Again Hell No Mr. McBeath. It goes under the heading of Integrity and by now you cops must understand that nobody can scare me away from my necessary and very justifiable task. For the benefit of my little Clan no can do. Quite asking such nonsense and just act within the scope of your employment, especially when so many crooks are worried and wondering what to do. It seems to me that ethical conduct ain't crossed anybody's mind yet. Surprise Surprise N'est Pas? Look for yourself.

Heres hoping that somebody gets enough sand to at least mention my name in Parliament during question period or in the media within the next two weeks or better yet some smart civil servant calls the dude that is supposed to assist whistleblowers whose job was created by Johnny Never Been Good's Accountability Act. Rest assured I already called his office and he will receive hard copy.

Toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble. Drink the witches brew or fess up and sooth your own soul. Sprout some balls and blow the whistle will ya Warren before you are transferred off to Ottawa because your French ain't so good? Yea right. Or could it be that you are just smart enough to realize you are in deep shit and are demanding to exit stage left or you will spill the beans? I must confess you were the smartest cop that I have talked to to date. Too bad you don't have a conscience too EH? I had high hopes for you last Xmass.. Now tell me honestly are you related to the McBeath character who is the boss of Grant Thornton in Toronto whom I was spitting and chewing with at the same time?

I will lay odds that you dudes could not have suffered through two Xmass' like I just did let alone all that has happened during the past six years without blowing your top. I swear i have never lost my temper. What you bastards are saying of me is pure malice. Warren you know for a fact that I am no liar you even watched your own not so honourable police force block three emails to you whilst we were talking on the phone just after your mean olf boss Zack had been replaced by Busson. Remember?

I heard that after I left Peticodiac your cop pals pulled over Werner and Kathleen and asked them where the hell I went. Why didn't you crooks just call me like the dumb Frenchman Cst Daigle did? Everybody knows I am not a shy man. Furthermore I have done nothing wrong . However the RCMP certainly has many wrongs to stand accountable for in court aor at least in public on the World Wide Web. EH? I have no problem whatsoever telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth to everyone. Why are you replying only to me if were wrong about you? you had no problen forwarding your first answer to me to Busson etc to cover your arse. Correct?

Again I must ask why did you and your fellow cops support the many false allegations made against me over the years, allowed that wacko Dean Roger Ray and his friends to threaten me and most importantly laugh and ignore the demise of all the cattle on Werner's farm over the years? Last but not least tell the crook Allan MacFee of Capital Towing in Fat Fred City to give me my Harley back. He has no right whatsoever to demand that I return to the States and buy NH tags and insurance before he will release my property to me. I don't care what the dumb as a post cop Randy Reilly of Fat Fred Finest may wish to claim. It quite simply is not true what he claims to have the right to demand. From his Chief, Barry McKnight on down the cops are to chicken to even come to the phoine since the FBI in Chicago called me weeks ago.

Guess who is blogging this email right now Warren? Just Google your name and mine.
Cya'll in Court or Hell. C'est la meme chose N'est Pas?
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

P.S. Tell me are the Feds planning to kill my Yahoo Account now like ya did with my email through Werner? Better ask their General counsel Mikey Callahan about the material that I sent him two god damned years ago

Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:

Again, please remove me from your e-mail list.

Warren McBeath, Cpl.
GRC Caledonia RCMP
Traffic Services NCO
Ph: (506) 387-2222
Fax: (506) 387-4622
E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

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Better yet if you dumb cops had bothered to read what I gave you nearly four years ago you should know who H. Marshall Jarrett is if he is a nervous camper you should be too.

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Last but not least Depupty Dog Robert F. O'Meara should certainly wonder who is looking into his girlfriend Wicked Wanda's doings and why the Yankee bank that held the stolen funds is suddenly blinking bigtime EH?

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Monday, June 04, 2007

 David Raymond Amos said...

Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:55:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "David Raymond Amos" davidramos333@yahoo.ca
Subject: Are you old liberals prepared to argue me Pro Se or whine about me like TJ Burke?
To: moorew@sen.parl.gc.ca, kennyco@sen.parl.gc.ca, gautht@sen.parl.gc.ca, zimmer@sen.parl.gc.ca, louiselorefice@ndp.ca, leader@greenparty.ca, defence@sen.parl.gc.ca
CC: atkinn@sen.parl.gc.ca, dayja@sen.parl.gc.ca, Clabchuk@greenparty.ca, maychair@dal.ca, kmcgowan@greenparty.ns.ca, juan.behrend@europeangreens.org

I am sendng this email from a different email address than my usual one because the Green Party has been blocking the other one and I want to make certain that Dizzy Lizzy May and some of her pals get some of the same emails that Petey Baby MacKay got while he and his boss, Shrub are in Germany showing others how they love to lick Bush's nasty arse. With luck maybe I can cause a bit of a stir in the Hill while the bad boys are overseas advising others on how to screw us common folk

Whereas you liberals are supporting May's run against MacKay to the chagrin of the NDP, I may run against MacKay as well if Lizzy don't wise up fast. Whose side will you be on then? MacKay's, May's or Me. Rest assured I will side with the NDP lady if she acts nice. We all know I will never be elected but perhaps I can help her N'est Pas?

If any of you have any doubts as to my sincerity, perhaps you all should reread some of the other emails I have sent over the years (davidamos.blogspot.com) or better yet confer with your other Maritime Senator liberal lawyer pal Joey Day I seen no need to send the lawyer Moore Hard Copy now that I see them on the same Committee once again. Joey answered my hard copy in early 2005 just before I was compelled to jump bail in the USA in order to return to Canada and attempt to make Anne McLellan and Pierre Pettigreww act with integrity ASAP. It has been two long lonely years since then without my little Clan or our home and I strongly doubt that Stevey Boy Harper will defend the wrongs of the 37th and 38th Parliaments against me while he tries to stop the 39th mandate from going down in flames.

After I heard Colleen Swords speak before you dudes on a rerun of CPAC I called your clerk (Gaëtane Lemay - 613-993-8968 and Swords' office (613 944-4228) and her ex boss V. Peter Harder in order to register my indignation before sending thes emails. Everybody tried to play as dumb as Dizzie Lizzie May did this morning and Senator Moore's assistant did this afternoon excepting of couse the nice lady who called me back on behalf of your clerk. I thank that lady for her genuine display of empathy

Methinks the crooks are all way past too late to act ethically within the scope of their employment now. I also think it should bee fun run against Petey Baby MacKay whilst suing him and her. Sounds like a hoot to me anyway. What say you? Nothing I suspect, thus I'll Cya'll in Court EH?
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

P.S. It is a hell of a tape that is playing in the background of this eemail EH?


Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:57:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Fwd: Hey Landslide Annie, Franky Boy and your old pal Al remember me? Are you old liberal lawyers prepared to argue me Pro Se or whine about me like TJ Burke?
To: davidramos333@yahoo.ca

Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:48:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Hey Landslide Annie, Franky Boy and your old pal Al remember me? Are you old liberal lawyers prepared to argue me Pro Se or whine about me like TJ Burke?
To: mclellana@bennettjones.ca, carla_yuill@nexeninc.com,
arock@strosbergco.com, td.capa@td.com, t.j.burke@gnb.ca,
eileen.deckler@usdoj.gov
CC: Josee_verner@acdi-cida.gc.ca, Hawn.L@parl.gc.ca, Lunney.J@parl.gc.ca,
Doyle.N@parl.gc.ca, Hearn.L@parl.gc.ca, Manning.F@parl.gc.ca,
davebasset09@yahoo.co.uk, bmosher@mosherchedore.ca, Fry.H@parl.gc.ca,
Emerson.D@parl.gc.ca, kevin_annett@hotmail.com, Baird.J@parl.gc.ca,
Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca, McGuinty.D@parl.gc.ca, Dhalla.R@parl.gc.ca,
Casey.B@parl.gc.ca, Holland.M@parl.gc.ca, Hubbard.C@parl.gc.ca,
Martin.Pat@parl.gc.ca, Guergis.H@parl.gc.ca, Mark.I@parl.gc.ca,
Turner.G@parl.gc.ca, Chong.M@parl.gc.ca, Comuzzi.J@parl.gc.ca,
warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, John.Foran@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
info@electionsquebec.qc.ca, communications-pm@mce.gouv.qc.ca,
ministre@justice.gouv.qc.ca, aboisclair.pat@assnat.qc.ca,
dumont.rdl@assnat.qc.ca, info@quebecsolidaire.net,
majorj@bennettjones.ca, cityadmin@fredericton.ca, info@gg.ca,
police@fredericton.ca, kworrell@fredfm.ca, news@fredfm.ca,
jworrell@fredfm.ca, awahab@fredfm.ca, news@dailygleaner.com

Here is a well mixed crowd of political crooks to curse my name along with you N'est Pas?

Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 22:43:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: After you all read real slow and listen closely say Hoka Hey to Stockwell Day and Petey Baby MacKay for me will ya?
To: complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca, advocacycollective@yahoo.com,
frederictonartsalliance@yahoo.ca, wassef@nb.sympatico.ca,
smcready@nbnet.nb.ca, socialsciences@mta.ca, fdykeman@mta.ca,
roly.macintyre@gnb.ca, Ed.Doherty@gnb.ca, rosemay.poirier@gnb.ca,
Jody.CARR@gnb.ca, Keith.ASHFIELD@gnb.ca, David.ALWARD@gnb.ca,
wally.stiles@gnb.ca, brad.green@gnb.ca, bev.harrison@gnb.ca,
Aurele.Daigle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Roger.Gillies@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
John.DeWinter@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, nicole.robichaud2@gnb.ca,
michael.comeau@gnb.ca, pleisnb@web.ca, debbie.hackett@gnb.ca,
jim.burns@gnb.ca, robert.penney@gnb.ca,
Stephane.vaillancourt@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, jsbrown@unb.ca,
aleblanc.mla@nb.aibn.com, mail@ccla.org
CC: maurice.bernier@gnb.ca, yvon.leblanc3@gnb.ca, Chris.Baker@gnb.ca,
Patrick.Francis@gnb.ca, Byron.JAMES@gnb.ca, eloi.duguay@gnb.ca,
Maurice_Robichaud@gnb.ca, Claire.Lepage@gnb.ca, George.Haines@gnb.ca,
John.Mallory@gnb.ca, Byron.James@gnb.ca, Nora.Kelly@gnb.ca,
Jim.McKay@gnb.ca, l.catalli.sonier@gnb.ca, David.FERGUSON@gnb.ca,
John.Sinclair@nbimc.com, dhay@nbpower.com, Bernard.Theriault@gnb.ca,
Louise.LEMON@gnb.ca, Hermenegilde.Chiasson@gnb.ca, Premier@gnb.ca,
Shawn.GRAHAM@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, noonanmg@gov.ns.ca,
info@lawreform.ns.ca, jhughes@unb.ca

Subject: RE: Re: Lets all go through the looking glass to check the Integrity of the Talking Heads in BC tonight
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:45:08 -0500
From: "McLellan, Anne - M.P." McLellan.A@parl.gc.ca
To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Dear Mr. Amos,
On behalf of Ms. McLellan I would like to thank you for your email message concerning the current federal election. I regret that the volume of messages prevented me from responding sooner.

Your message has been brought to Ms. McLellan`s attention, as she is always pleased to receive comments, both positive and negative.

Again, thank you for bringing this matter to Ms. McLellan`s attention.

Sincerely,
Kirsten Odynski
Office of the Deputy Prime Minister


From: David Amos mailto:motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Sent: December 16, 2005 6:05 PM
To: McLellan, Anne - M.P.; Cotler, Irwin - M.P.; Martin, Paul - P.M.; Solberg, Monte - M.P.; Duceppe, Gilles - député; eleanor.sinnott@state.ma.us; barb.walline@gov.ab.ca; lgo@ltgov.sk.ca; jlbernard@gov.pe.ca; GHInfo@gov.bc.ca; ltgov@leg.gov.mb.ca; Lieut-gouv@mce.gouv.qc.ca; ltgov@gov.on.ca; Rep.ChristopherSperanzo@Hou.State.MA.US; Rep.LindaDorcenaForry@Hou.State.MA.US; Rep.MichaelMoran@Hou.State.MA.US; canada@canadianembassy.org; brenda.boyd@RCMP-GRC.gc.ca; Grant.GARNEAU@gnb.ca; racing.commission@state.ma.us; dwatch@web.net
Cc: moneysense_consultant@moneysense.ca; Siksay, Bill - M.P.; Julian, Peter - M.P.; Desjarlais, Bev - M.P.; Comartin, Joe - M.P.; boulder@rogers.com; francis.jp@gmail.com; Masse, Brian - M.P.; Martin, Tony - M.P.; Christopherson, David - M.P.; Angus, Charlie - M.P.; O'Brien, Pat - M.P.; Parrish, Carolyn - M.P.; Stoffer, Peter - M.P.; McDonough, Alexa - M.P.; Martin, Pat D. - M.P.; Wasylycia-Leis, Judy - M.P.; Blaikie, Bill - M.P.; Crowder, Jean - M.P.; Cullen, Nathan - M.P.; Davies, Libby - M.P.
Subject: Fwd: Re: Lets all go through the looking glass to check the Integrity of the Talking Heads in BC tonight

Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:25:25 -0800 (PST)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: Lets all go through the looking glass to check the Integrity of the Talking Heads in BC tonight
To: "Alex J. Walling" ajw@eastlink.ca, yell@thefibber.com
CC: Scott.A@parl.gc.ca, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, Layton.J@parl.gc.ca,
Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca, Martin.P@parl.gc.ca, news957@rci.rogers.com,
andrew@andrewhouse.ca, mucki@shaw.ca, pduchastel@gmail.com,
svend@svendrobinson.com, garth@garth.ca, anwarnaqvi@ndp.ca,
edchudak@ndp4me.ca, ghubbers@greenparty.ca, krice@greenparty.ca,
info@cindysilver.ca, jpal@telus.net, NationalVP@chp.ca,
jevans@greenparty.ca, editor@cannabisculture.com,
MediaRelations@crtc.gc.ca, atvnews@ctv.ca, events@cpac.ca,
admin@cbcwatch.ca, john@johnweston.ca, bforst@dccnet.com,
info@robinbaird.ca, editor@thetyee.ca

Merry Xmas AJ?
Bah Humbug. Liar, liar panties on fire, your parting wish proves that you must have read something of mine. However I had a pretty good idea that you would not read the latests email I sent ya so I played you like a fiddle again. It seems that your porch lights are on but nobody is home. EH? Perhaps you should read it now real slow or have your lawyer explain it to you. .

I must thank you for being so dumb. It was not wise for you to bounce it back to me in its entirety without reading it first. You proved for me what the smiling bastards debating once again in BC tonight have received today. As they no doubt go about pounding on their chests bout their personal integrity and honesty please allow me to add a few more gleaned from your buddies' online news outfit and on top of what you bounced back to further prove that not only do the political leaders understand the Canadian Charter neither do our public servants.

In closing I must say you are far too boring to read for long and not near as funny as your buddy the self described "Fibber". Methinks that boy is still stuck in Wonderland. I would be willing to lay odds that he is Halifax Dead in the Water's webmaster of Disaster.What say you Herr Frank Streicher of 25562 Bloomfield St Halifax, NS B3K 1S9 or has the Cheshire Cat got your tongue too?

To be fair to Halifax Dead in the Water I will insert your buddies's online news report about the debate last night and then add a couple of email exchanges between me and some very fancy public servants who failed to uphold my rights under the Charter. Integrity at its finest. EH? Go ask Shirley Heafey why she quit. she is alot like Alice the Mad Hatter in me confused her out of the gate. So she quit and took her toys home. I am chasing Mr. Kennedy's nasty arse now.To me all politicians and their appointed underlings look like a bunch of pigs at the trough. I see are a bunch very nasty arses. I know what I must do with my boot.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

P.S. The Fibber will find this funny. It appears that some politician's computers know
more integrity than their owners or AJ EH?

"Harper, Stephen - M.P." Harper.S@parl.gc.ca wrote:

Subject: RE: Re: Lets all go through the looking glass to check the Integrity of the Talking Heads in BC tonight
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:32:54 -0500
From: "Harper, Stephen - M.P." Harper.S@parl.gc.ca
To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

Thank you for your e-mail message to Stephen Harper, Leader of the Opposition. Your views and suggestions are important to us. Once they have been carefully considered, you may receive a further reply.

*Remember to include your mailing address if you would like a response.

If you prefer to send your thoughts by regular mail, please address them to:

Stephen Harper, M.P.
Leader of the Opposition
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6

Mail may be sent postage free to any Member of Parliament.

You can also reach Mr. Harper by fax at: (613) 947-0310
Martin Demands That Harper Must Come Clean on Notwithstanding Clause
by LPC Friday, 16 December 2005
Prime Minister Paul Martin demanded Conservative Leader Stephen Harper come clean that he intends to use the notwithstanding clause to overturn the Charter right to same-sex marriage.

Mr. Harper said during tonight’s leader’s debate in Vancouver on the topic of abolishing same-sex marriage: "I will never use the notwithstanding clause on that issue."

Prime Minister Martin asked that he be honest with the Canadian people regarding his intention to override a Charter right.
"We're talking about integrity. That means being honest. Either Mr. Harper is going to try to change the law of the country that protects the rights and freedoms of gays and lesbians or he's not going to," said Prime Minister Martin.

"If he's going to use the notwithstanding clause, he should say so, and the people will at least know what his position is."
The Prime Minister said Mr. Harper’s proposal would require the use of the notwithstanding clause because it is not possible to have a vote in the house that will overrule the Constitution and the courts without using the notwithstanding clause.

This is borne out by a January 25 open letter from more than 100 legal experts from across Canada to Mr. Harper regarding same-sex marriage legislation.

Mr. Martin called on Mr. Harper to be "honest."

He made clear that the Liberal government does not believe that you can pick and choose which Charter rights you will protect and he affirmed that he will respect the Charter as a whole.
The Prime Minister said Mr. Harper’s proposal would require the use of the notwithstanding clause because it is not possible to have a vote in the house that will overrule the Constitution and the courts without using the notwithstanding clause.

This is borne out by a January 25 open letter from more than 100 legal experts from across Canada to Mr. Harper regarding same-sex marriage legislation.

Mr. Martin called on Mr. Harper to be "honest."

He made clear that the Liberal government does not believe that you can pick and choose which Charter rights you will protect and he affirmed that he will respect the Charter as a whole.

----- Original Message -----
From: David Amos
To: sos@international.gc.ca ; Pettigrew.P@parl.gc.ca ; davidamos@bsn1.net
Cc: BBACHRACH@bowditch.com ; cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ; dpm@pm.gc.ca ; ted.tax@justice.gc.ca ; adams_sammon@msn.com ; fbinhct@leo.gov ; HeafeyS@cpc-cpp.gc.ca ; alicia.mcdonnell@state.ma.us
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:55 PM
Subject: Mr. Pettigrew I have contacted your people for the last time Now I sue the Crown and you
Consular Affairs Bureau
Foreign Affairs Canada
125 Sussex Drive
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
K1A 0G2
Tel.: (613) 996-8885 (call collect where available)
Fax: (613) 943-1054

Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 07:17:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Fwd: Please allow me to remind you of the Charter before I sue you and your cohorts
To: events@cpac.ca, mmacdonald@cp.org, radionews@mpbc.org,
publisher@whatsup.nb.ca, kjamerson@wagmtv.com, kbabin@globaltv.ca,
jfoster@globaltv.ca, atvnews@ctv.ca, cmorris@cp.org, info@ccna.ca,
kbissett@broadcastnews.ca, bdnmail@bangordailynews.net,
ehutton@atlanticbusinessmagazine.com, argosy@mta.ca

Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Please allow me to remind you of the Charter before I sue you and your cohorts
To: maggie.trudel-maggiore@international.gc.ca,
josie.maguire@dfait-maeci.gc.ca, info@pco-bcp.gc.ca, Cotler.I@parl.gc.ca,
Pettigrew.P@parl.gc.ca, ted.tax@justice.gc.ca, jbriggs@lawreform.ns.ca,
info@lawreform.ns.ca, canada@canadianembassy.org,
CIV_agent-mandataire-_CIV@justice.gc.ca,
FPS_agent-mandataire_SFP@justice.gc.ca, liaison@justice.gc.ca,
belanger.jean-daniel@psio-bifp.gc.ca, david@lutz.nb.ca
CC: publiceye@cbs.com, bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com, cnwtor@mail.newswire.ca,
mgarcia@venezuelaonu.gob.ve, veneboston@hotmail.com,
consulado.canada@misionvenezuela.org, inquiries@un.org,
clementgroleau@videotron.ca, mercet@sen.parl.gc.ca,
anti-t@sen.parl.gc.ca, complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca,
jacques.dufort@cpc-cpp.gc.ca, ellardm@sirc-csars.gc.ca,
GrandmL@erc-cee.gc.ca, jacques.sabourin@justice.gc.ca,
lesley.mccoy@justice.gc.ca, martineaup@nafta-sec-alena.org,
cbarlow@gg.ca, gredling@pco-bcp.gc.ca, mary.chaput@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca,
ginette.danis@psc-cfp.gc.ca, justice@gov.nl.ca,
murielle.rivers@chrc-ccdp.ca, mburke@chrt-tcdp.gc.ca,
rricher@scics.gc.ca, crouleau@citttcce.gc.ca, dcb@smtp.gc.ca,
charrette.jocelyne@fcac.gc.ca, AdamsoV@erc-cee.gc.ca,
betty.macphee@crtc.gc.ca, potterl@scc-csc.gc.ca,
josee.touchette@justice.gc.ca, renaudlp@oag-bvg.gc.ca,
rdaoust@privcom.gc.ca, rod.smith@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, smorel@gg.ca,
rraymond@lcc.gc.ca, execassistant@nafta-sec-alena.org

Hey Lady
I very tired of the double talk of mandates etc. that you public servants employ to duck doing your job. Perhaps you should have a long talk with all those within your Dept that assisted the Yankees in my false imprisonment last year. Methinks the right one to start with would be Josie Macguire in Beantown. Don't you?
Legal Rights

7. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.

8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.

9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.

10. Everyone has the right on arrest or detention

a) to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor;

b) to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informed of that right; and

c) to have the validity of the detention determined by way of habeas corpus and to be released if the detention is not lawful.

11. Any person charged with an offence has the right

a) to be informed without unreasonable delay of the specific offence;

b) to be tried within a reasonable time;

c) not to be compelled to be a witness in proceedings against that person in respect of the offence;

d) to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal;

e) not to be denied reasonable bail without just cause;

maggie.trudel-maggiore@international.gc.ca wrote:

Mr. Amos,

thank you for your phone message and several email messages. As the Director of Values and Ethics in the departments of Foreign Affairs Canada and International Trade Canada, my current mandate applies only to internal management issues. For example, establishing a code of conduct for our employees as well as providing advice to staff on conflict of interest and conflict resolution.
As such I don't think I could be in a position to assist you. Please remove my name from your distribution list.

Thanks in advance

Maggie Trudel-Maggiore
A/Director, Values and Ethics

From: David Amos mailto:motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Sent: September 18, 2005 1:53 PM
To: publiceye@cbs.com; bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com; cnwtor@mail.newswire.ca; mgarcia@venezuelaonu.gob.ve; veneboston@hotmail.com; consulado.canada@misionvenezuela.org; inquiries@un.org; clementgroleau@videotron.ca; mercet@sen.parl.gc.ca; anti-t@sen.parl.gc.ca; complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca; jacques.dufort@cpc-cpp.gc.ca; ellardm@sirc-csars.gc.ca; GrandmL@erc-cee.gc.ca; Trudel-Maggiore, Maggie -ZVE; jacques.sabourin@justice.gc.ca; lesley.mccoy@justice.gc.ca; martineaup@nafta-sec-alena.org; cbarlow@gg.ca; gredling@pco-bcp.gc.ca; mary.chaput@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca; ginette.danis@psc-cfp.gc.ca; justice@gov.nl.ca
Cc: murielle.rivers@chrc-ccdp.ca; mburke@chrt-tcdp.gc.ca; rricher@scics.gc.ca; crouleau@citttcce.gc.ca; dcb@smtp.gc.ca; charrette.jocelyne@fcac.gc.ca; AdamsoV@erc-cee.gc.ca; betty.macphee@crtc.gc.ca; potterl@scc-csc.gc.ca; josee.touchette@justice.gc.ca; renaudlp@oag-bvg.gc.ca; rdaoust@privcom.gc.ca; rod.smith@rcmp-grc.gc.ca; smorel@gg.ca; rraymond@lcc.gc.ca; execassistant@nafta-sec-alena.org
Subject: I have many documents for Dan Rather to review ask Brian Mulroney or his buddy Bernard Roy


Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 04:42:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Fwd: RE: Just so you know
To: publiceye@cbs.com, bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com, cnwtor@mail.newswire.ca,
mgarcia@venezuelaonu.gob.ve, veneboston@hotmail.com,
consulado.canada@misionvenezuela.org, inquiries@un.org,
clementgroleau@videotron.ca, mercet@sen.parl.gc.ca,
anti-t@sen.parl.gc.ca, complaints@cpc-cpp.gc.ca,
jacques.dufort@cpc-cpp.gc.ca, ellardm@sirc-csars.gc.ca,
GrandmL@erc-cee.gc.ca, jacques.sabourin@justice.gc.ca,
lesley.mccoy@justice.gc.ca, martineaup@nafta-sec-alena.org,
cbarlow@gg.ca, gredling@pco-bcp.gc.ca, mary.chaput@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca,
ginette.danis@psc-cfp.gc.ca, justice@gov.nl.ca,
murielle.rivers@chrc-ccdp.ca, mburke@chrt-tcdp.gc.ca,
rricher@scics.gc.ca, crouleau@citttcce.gc.ca, dcb@smtp.gc.ca,
charrette.jocelyne@fcac.gc.ca, AdamsoV@erc-cee.gc.ca,
betty.macphee@crtc.gc.ca, potterl@scc-csc.gc.ca,
josee.touchette@justice.gc.ca, renaudlp@oag-bvg.gc.ca,
rdaoust@privcom.gc.ca, rod.smith@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, smorel@gg.ca,
rraymond@lcc.gc.ca, execassistant@nafta-sec-alena.org
CC: caroline.whitby@transfair.ca, pbroder@imaginecanada.ca,
cforcese@uottawa.ca, David.Fewer@uOttawa.ca, Philippa.Lawson@uOttawa.ca,
Stephane.Emard-Chabot@uOttawa.ca, Chantale.Fore@uOttawa.ca,
exec@casis.ca, gkealey@unb.ca, dgollob@cna-acj.ca,
justicepourmohamedharkat@yahoo.ca, mail@ccla.org, info@amnesty.ca,
rocht@iclmg.ca, katiag@ccic.ca, admin@cbanb.com, info@cba.org

Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 04:33:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Just so you know
To: HeafeyS@cpc-cpp.gc.ca, gemerson@tor.fasken.com, jgrant@baseconsulting.ca,
rabrahamson@baseconsulting.ca, mdesouza@baseconsulting.ca, csae@csae.com,
kim.keith@rci.rogers.com, jduncan@tor.fasken.com, Moore.R@parl.gc.ca,
ahamilton@casselsbrock.com, jm@jmellon.com, treasurer@casis.ca,
jbronskill@cp.org, RTRiley6@cs.com, pborbey@pco-bcp.gc.ca,
dlepage@pco-bcp.gc.ca, Allan.Kimpton@psc-cfp.gc.ca,
linda.gobeil@psc-cfp.gc.ca, janette.hamilton@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
barbara.george@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, danielle.brunet-paquin@tpsgc.gc.ca,
robert.brule@cse-cst.gc.ca, Julie.Birch@cse-cst.gc.ca,
arnold.zeman@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca, nancy.taillon@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca
CC: info.com@chrc-ccdp.ca, Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca, Scott.A@parl.gc.ca,
radionews@mpbc.org, publisher@whatsup.nb.ca, kjamerson@wagmtv.com,
kbabin@globaltv.ca, jfoster@globaltv.ca, atvnews@ctv.ca, cmorris@cp.org,
info@ccna.ca, kbissett@broadcastnews.ca, bdnmail@bangordailynews.net,
ehutton@atlanticbusinessmagazine.com, argosy@mta.ca,
sylvain.martel@csn.qc.ca, events@cpac.ca, mmacdonald@cp.org,
crgeditor@yahoo.com, jeff.mockler@gnb.ca

No need to Bitch.

I am about to sue ya anyway but you did receive the same material that everybody else got by email anyway. However now I will now forward the other emails that various silly servants got after I had had many talks with your incompetant and malicious assistants within the Commission over the past two years. It seems that I had to insult you and bust you in front of your friends to finally get a response from you.

Furthermore on August 2nd I sent you your material byway of the US Mail which was received and signed for. It was hard copy of my concerns and allegations about you being in bed with the corrupt old bastard Zack of the RCMP. I also sent a copy of wiretap tape # 139. Instead of you acting within the scope of your employment you go on vacation and bury your head in the sand while the RCMP assisted the Yankees in throwing my wife and kids into the street without due process of law?

Well your head may be in still the sand but you just stuck your arse high up in the air. It is high time for me to give it a boot before you stick it up Zack's ass in a vain effort to appear that you have integrity after all. The following is the text of that letter and after that is the US Mail's confirmation of when it was sent and received by you.

Say hey to McLachlin for me will ya? Tell her I will be suing her too. She has been covering up for the crooked Newfy Judge Dereck Green for way past too long. To hell with lawyers appointed as commissioners and other lawyers appointed as judges. From my point of view they were only appointed to cover up public corruption. I look forward to meeting the likes of you in court and arguing you on the public record. You just proved for me that most lawyers ain't that smart. You should have continued to play dumb Bitch. At least then you could have blamed your assistants for not telling you what you obviously know. however if you had done so, I would have pointed to the fact that you are their supervisor and therefore ultimatly responsible. Everybody else knows that the RCMP are as crooked as hell, so do you. call me a liar now. I double dog dare ya.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

July 31st, 2005

Right Honourable Beverley McLachlin, Shirley Heafey Chair of Commission
C/o Norman Sabourin General Counsel and for Public Complaints against the RCMP
Andrew Grant and Renée Maria Tremblay P.O. Box 3423 Station "D"
Canadian Judicial Council Ottawa, ON K1P 6L4
150 Metcalfe Street,
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0W8

RE: Rampant Public Corruption

Hey,
Pursuant to my recent phone calls to Norman Sabourin and various underlings of Shirley Heafey within the Commission for Public Complaints against the RCMP over the years plus my many faxes and emails please find enclosed exactly the same material received by every Attorney General in Canada over the past year. The CD which is a copy of a police surveillance wiretap tape # 139 is served upon you as officers of the court in order that it may be properly investigated. As you can see I have enclosed a copy of a letter sent to the latest Attorney General Mr. Wally Opal in BC. Perhaps he should take a little trip to Surrey and ask your office some hard questions. Perhaps the ghost of my fellow Independent politician, Chuck Cadman may wish to answer few questions now as well. Hard telling not knowing.

I will not bother you with the details of what I am sending to you byway of the certified US Mail because I will be serving identical material to many other Canadian Authorities in hand and tell them I gave this stuff to you first and enclose a copy of this letter. All that is important to me right now is that I secure proof that this mail was sent before I make my way back home to the Maritimes. However I will say I am also enclosing a great deal more material than what Allan Rock had received in the UN. Some of it is in fact the same material the two maritime lawyers, Rob Moore and Franky Boy McKenna in particular received, while I was up home running for Parliament last year. Things have changed greatly in the past year so I have also included a few recent items to spice thing up for you. I am tired of trying to convince people employed in law enforcement to uphold the law. So all I will say for now is deal will your own conscience and be careful how you respond to this letter. If you do not respond. Rest assured I will do my best to sue you some day. Ignorance is no excuse to the law or me.
Veritas Vincit
David R. Amos
153 Alvin Ave
Milton, MA. 02186

Label/Receipt Number: ED71 7170 484U S
Detailed Results:

Delivered Abroad, August 11, 2005, 6:49 am, CANADA
Out of Foreign Customs, August 08, 2005, 2:37 pm, CANADA
Into Foreign Customs, August 04, 2005, 1:52 pm, CANADA
Arrived Abroad, August 04, 2005, 1:52 pm, CANADA
International Dispatch, August 03, 2005, 8:32 am, KENNEDY AMC
Enroute, August 03, 2005, 8:30 am, JAMAICA, NY 11499
Acceptance, August 02, 2005, 10:40 am, QUINCY, MA 02169

Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 08:07:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: This dude is a big time liar his own complaint number proves it
To: news@dailygleaner.com, kcarmichael@bloomberg.net, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
advocacycollective@yahoo.com, Easter.W@parl.gc.ca, Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca,
cityadmin@fredericton.ca, info@gg.ca, bmosher@mosherchedore.ca,
rchedore@mosherchedore.ca, police@fredericton.ca, chebert@thestar.ca,
Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca, Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca, Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca,
alltrue@nl.rogers.com, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, Layton.J@parl.gc.ca,
Dryden.K@parl.gc.ca, Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca
CC: brad.woodside@fredericton.ca, whalen@fredericton.ca,
david.kelly@fredericton.ca, cathy.maclaggan@fredericton.ca,
stephen.kelly@fredericton.ca, tom.jellinek@fredericton.ca,
scott.mcconaghy@fredericton.ca, marilyn.kerton@fredericton.ca,
walter.brown@fredericton.ca, norah.davidson@fredericton.ca,
mike.obrien@fredericton.ca, bruce.grandy@fredericton.ca,
dan.keenan@fredericton.ca, jeff.mockler@gnb.ca,
mrichard@lawsociety-barreau.nb.ca, cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca,
jlmockler@mpor.ca, scotta@parl.gc.ca, michael.bray@gnb.ca,
jack.e.mackay@gnb.ca

May 23, 2007 File No. PC-2005-1291

Mr. David R Amos
motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

Dear Mr. Amos:

On a number of occasions you have called or sent e-mails our office to raise matters which are of pressing concern to you.

Each time we have tried to respond by explaining to you the relatively narrow mandate of this Commission and the limits of our powers to deal with the matters which are of concern to you. I must stress, once again, that the purpose of this Commission is to provide the public with an opportunity to make complaints concerning the conduct of members of the RCMP in the performance of their duties. We have neither the expertise nor the legal authority to permit us to become involved in issues beyond the scope of this mandate.

While it is clearly not the intention of the Commission to prevent you from making complaints against members of the RCMP, an analysis of your numerous contacts with the Commission indicates that your concerns fall well outside the confines of our mandate. Further, your frequent e-mails have been disruptive and unproductive for both you and for the staff of this office.

Should you determine that some point in the future you have a complaint concerning the conduct of a member of the RCMP in the performance of his or her duties, please submit it to the Commission by Canada Post only. As of now, your e-mails will be deleted unread.

Yours truly,

Andrée Leduc
Enquiries and Complaints Analyst


"Heafey, Shirley" HeafeyS@cpc-cpp.gc.ca wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: "Heafey, Shirley"HeafeyS@cpc-cpp.gc.ca
Sent: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:10:00 -0400
To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Just so you know

Just so you know, there was no message attached to the e-mail sent to me. SO, in fact, I don't know what you think I should now know. Try again.
SH

-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos mailto:motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 1:24 PM
To: gemerson@tor.fasken.com; jgrant@baseconsulting.ca; rabrahamson@baseconsulting.ca; mdesouza@baseconsulting.ca; csae@csae.com; kim.keith@rci.rogers.com; jduncan@tor.fasken.com; Moore.R@parl.gc.ca; ahamilton@casselsbrock.com
Cc: Zeman, Arnold; jm@jmellon.com; Taillon, Nancy; treasurer@casis.ca; jbronskill@cp.org; RTRiley6@cs.com; pborbey@pco-bcp.gc.ca; dlepage@pco-bcp.gc.ca; Allan.Kimpton@psc-cfp.gc.ca; linda.gobeil@psc-cfp.gc.ca; janette.hamilton@rcmp-grc.gc.ca; barbara.george@rcmp-grc.gc.ca; danielle.brunet-paquin@tpsgc.gc.ca; robert.brule@cse-cst.gc.ca; Julie.Birch@cse-cst.gc.ca; Heafey, Shirley
Subject: Just so you know

CSIS can never say they didn't know. This should put Shirley Heafey's panties in a knot when she get back from her vacation. I can only wonder what Ms. Longo of the RCMP is saying about now.

"Zeman, Arnold" Arnold.Zeman@PSEPC-SPPCC.gc.ca wrote:

Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: For the record Joan I did talk to your boss Abrahamson yesterday and more people you know today

Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:16:11 -0400
From: "Zeman, Arnold" Arnold.Zeman@PSEPC-SPPCC.gc.ca
To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
This is an automatic reply. I'm away froom the office and will return on Monday September 26,2005. If you need information before then, please contact Marie-France Kingsley at 990-6306.

Ceci est une réponse automatique. Je serai de retour au bureau le lundi 26 septembre 2005. Si vous avez besoin d'aide, veuillez communiquer avec Marie-France Kingsley au 990-6306.

A. W. Zeman
Assistant Inspector General of CSIS /
Inspecteur général adjoint du SCRS
340 Laurier Avenue West / 340, avenue Laurier ouest
Ottawa ON K1A 0P8
phone / tél : (613) 990-8274
fax / télécopieur : (613) 990-8303
email / courriel : arnold.zeman@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca

Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:31:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Say hey to Arthur Hamilton and Peter Mackay for me will ya?
To: r.houston@burkerobertson.com, rhouston@burkerobertson.com,
richard.dearden@gowlings.com, tconway@mccarthy.ca,
riddella@solowaywright.com
CC: david.allgood@rbc.com, mackay.p@parl.gc.ca, stronach.b@parl.gc.ca,
moore.r@parl.gc.ca

I remember you Mr Deardon. Remember me? You were the Auditor General, Sheila Fraser's lawyer in the Gomery matter. The last thing you are is ethical EH? I also remember quite a crowd of you dudes from McCarthy over the years as well. Need a I say you are all less honourable than "AL" If you think I am a liar sue me, will ya. One thing I know for certain Stevey Boy Harper won't have Parliamentry immunity when I sue him.

PM invokes immunity to avoid testifying at ex-candidate's libel trial

Tim Naumetz, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Wednesday, May 16, 2007
Prime Minister Stephen Harper is claiming parliamentary immunity to avoid giving evidence in a libel lawsuit launched by a prominent Ottawa lawyer who stepped aside as an election candidate to make way for sponsorship whistleblower Allan Cutler.

Mr. Harper's lawyer, Richard Dearden, told court yesterday sections of the Constitution and the Parliament of Canada Act prevent the prime minister from being compelled to testify in the legal action by lawyer Alan Riddell as long as Parliament is in session.

Mr. Dearden served notice of the immunity claim in legal documents he filed before he and a lawyer for the Conservative party, Robert Houston, convinced a judge yesterday to postpone a trial that was to begin this week on a claim related to the libel action.
"It's absolute," Mr. Dearden said after presenting his arguments to Justice Monique Metivier.
"Any member of Parliament can invoke parliamentary privilege when Parliament is in session. No reasons need be given."

Allan Riddell has sued Mr. Harper and Don Plett, the president of the Conservative party, over their claims in November 2005 there was no agreement between Mr. Riddell and the party for him to step aside to let Mr. Cutler run in the campaign that fall.

The agreement, which a Superior Court judge ruled last year had been reached between Mr. Riddell and the Conservatives, included a promise that Mr. Riddell would be compensated for expenses he incurred while campaigning for the Conservative nomination in Ottawa South.

But the Conservative party claims the agreement also included an unstated term of confidentiality, which it says Mr. Riddell breached when he publicly disclosed its existence.

The trial Judge Metivier postponed to an unscheduled date was to have decided whether the agreement included a clause of confidentiality.

Superior Court Justice Denis Power ruled last year that, even if there was a confidentiality clause, the agreement continued to exist even though Mr. Riddell disclosed its existence. The trial of Mr. Riddell's libel claims against Mr. Harper and Mr. Plett is not scheduled to begin until February.

But the acrimonious atmosphere of the legal proceedings that have taken place behind close doors so far, primarily in examinations of discovery to gather evidence, surfaced as Mr. Houston, Mr. Dearden and Tom Conway, Mr. Riddell's lawyer, exchanged barbs before the judge.

Mr. Dearden told Judge Metivier he had been "ambushed" by Mr. Conway with last-minute information.
Meanwhile, Mr. Houston reacted angrily to statements Mr. Conway made about the Conservative party's wish to keep the agreement with Riddell "a secret."
Mr. Conway claimed the Conservatives wanted to delay the trial over the confidentiality clause because they had "painted themselves in a corner."
The claim of secrecy creates an unwholesome image of "cigar-smoking backroom boys" cutting a political deal behind closed doors, Mr. Conway said.

Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos <
motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Hey Brad do ya think that the Arseholes at Capital Towing or their lawyer will get a grip on this when i serve them hard copy?
To: brad.woodside@fredericton.ca, whalen@fredericton.ca,
david.kelly@fredericton.ca, cathy.maclaggan@fredericton.ca,
stephen.kelly@fredericton.ca, tom.jellinek@fredericton.ca,
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Subject: RE: Portions of wiretap tapes to impeach George W. Bush and put a stop Harper's motion tommorrow
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:49:47 -0400
From: "Dewar, Paul - M.P." Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca
To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Hi David. My name is James and I have been asked to send this message onto you from Paul…

Dear Mr. Amos,

Thank you for informing me of your concerns regarding Canada 's role in Afghanistan after February 2007.

The NDP voted against this motion because we believe it is the wrong mission for Canada . It does not reflect the peace-making values that Canadians want to see our forces undertake on the world stage. This forced motion essentially ties our aid and development funds to war-making, and we cannot support that.

It is quite clear that Harper's Conservatives aren't interested in due diligence. They're interested in dragging us further into a US-style combat role and away from our traditional peace keeping role. Much like the Liberals before them, the Conservatives have failed to tell Canadians:

- What the chain of command and control will be for this mission.
- What the definition of success will be for our troops.
- What our exit strategy will be.

Many Canadians have written me wanting answers and it is our duty as representatives of our constituents, to get answers before committing to any new missions overseas. As any soldier knows, time spent on reconnaissance is never wasted.

New Democrats recognize that Canada does have a role in assisting Afghanis in rebuilding their country. Afghanistan is the largest recipient of Canadian overseas development aid and we fully support the continuation of that funding - outside of this mission.

Thank you again for the time and effort you have taken to share your thoughts with me, and for bringing your opinion on this matter to my attention.

Sincerely,

Paul Dewar, MP Ottawa, Ontario
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Subject: Portions of wiretap tapes to impeach George W. Bush and put a stop Harper's motion tommorrow

Hey
Before all the Parliamentarians argue and then vote to support further Canadian deaths in one of George W. Bush's Wars for Global Control for the benefit of his corporate cohorts perhaps, you should at least listen to the attachments if you do not wish to bother to read what Billy Casey and the Bankers got on May 12th. If I can assist in preventing the demise of just one more Canadian warrior in a malicious foreign war, all of my work will have been worth it EH?

If everyone ignores me as usual, I will not be surprised. At least I will sleep well with my conscience tonight because I know I have done my very best to stop the nonsense since early 2002 long before the War in Iraq began. None of you deserve to sleep well at all because you all supported Harper's orders to send our people to war even before the 39th Parliament sat this year. As far as I am concerned the blood of four very honourable soldiers can be found on your hands. Shame on all of you for not even bothering to honour our dead by lowering the flag on the Peacetower. As long as I have been aware and could consider myself a Proad Canadian, I thought we were peacekeepers rather than poorly paid hired guns for crooked corporations, corrupt politicians and their wicked Yankee bible pounding buddies.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos


Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 00:00:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Jumping Jimmy Flaherty's jump boots versus Crosbie's old mukluks in a liberal Senate
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Deja Vu Anyone? Anyone?
That's what John Crosbie wore

tHe mAdd pRoFeSsOr madd_professor@cox.net wrote:
Passing this around. (2nd pass)
It is a little lengthy
The audiotape is a little raunchy

(apoplogies)

However since this concerns an illegal FBI wiretap, I thought you might like to see this ?
This David Amos is a colorful character.
Whether you think he is a nut, or whether you think he's whatever you think.
He is a Canuk with brass balls, and although not himself a Christian, he and I do share a common enemy.
Both of us are are as anti new world order as anybody could be.
And so he cooperates with me and I him to the degree we are able.
And this tape was pulled out of a dumpster behind one of the FBI offices.
And contains rather damning information as I expect you will hear and see.
Where I expect Mr Amos was visiting from Canada as he does have business in the US as well.

Subject: Fwd: After you all read real slow and listen closely say Hoka Hey to Stockwell Day and Petey Baby MacKay for me will ya?From: "tHe mAdd pRoFeSsOr" madd_professor@cox.net
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Subject: Get a grip on this?
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:07:12 -0600

http://specter.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactInfo.Home

For those of you who wanna stir the pot, I offer the above link to contact regarding this. It is an FBI (illegal?) wiretap you are listening to, where it is evident the FBI is lying and covering up some black op with ovbious complicity of the FBI itself. Research this at the below website..........

http://actionlyme.org/FBI_WIRETAPE_TAPES.htm

The letter I sent Specteor is below. I don't really expect that there would be much improvement even if we got rid of bush, (the democrats are thick as thieves with the idea of the new world order and betrayal of all America once stood for too, but at least it is a stand for the truth, and it will make them squirm a little. As well as increase their guilt whenever they do face judgement for their actions, which all men will answer to our Lord sooner or later anyways after its all over.

FEDERAL EXPRESS February 7, 2006

Senator Arlen Specter
United States Senate
Committee on the Judiciary
224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Mr. Specter:

I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters raised in the attached letter. Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes. I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.

Very truly yours,
Barry A. Bachrach

Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com

This sent to Specteor today.....

Could you please inform me of the results of your disposition regarding the following matter.
I am concerned over the information presented by this Mr. David Amos fellow regarding illegal wiretaps, and the treachery and deceit practiced by the present Administration, all under the guise of "Homeland Security" ? Would you please be kind enough to show me where David Amos has made false allegations, or if not, then explain to me what actions have been taken to remedy this situation. It seems to me that if indeed our present Administration is guilty of half of the things Mr. Amos presents on his website, then there should have already been some action taken by any honest person, by you or your collegues to get that lying deciever out of office, along with his consort Cheney too? Or if those allegations are false and baseless that were made by David Amos, then could you explain that to me as well?
I refer to the matter addressed below...........

Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 07:56:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Who says they are ignoring me Chucky? Ask Barry McKnight why the Yankees are researching him
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charles leblanc oldmaison@yahoo.com wrote: Where are ya living now???? Since the media seem to ignore ya? I'll sit down for a debate with a recorder for the blog...Now? Don't get all exicted and send this all over the world.....lol

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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:37:04 PM
Subject: I promised one of the Fat Fred City cop Randy Reilly that I would try to make him famous


http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=davidraymondamos&search=Search

A man is only as good as his word EH? To bad priests, bankers, politicians, lawyers and cops can't claim the same N'est Pas

http://actionlyme.org/FBI_WIRETAPE_TAPES.htm

http://davidamos.blogspot.com/

Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 19:01:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Amos motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Now everybody and his dog knows TJ Burke and his cop buddies allegations against me are false and you had the proof all along EH Chucky?
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2007/05/24/nb-burkethreat.html

http://www.canadaeast.com/ce2/docroot/article.php?articleID=149018

http://oldmaison.blogspot.com/2007/05/tj-burke-walking-around-with-rcmp.html

http://oldmaison.blogspot.com/2006/06/fapo-has-meeting-about-panhanding.html

http://oldmaison.blogspot.com/2007/05/hats-off-to-cbc-reporter-jacques.html

http://maritimes.indymedia.org/mail.php?id=9856

Methinks your liberal pals just made a major faux pas N'est Pas? Scroll down Frenchie and go down?.

Threat against Burke taken seriously

By STEPHEN LLEWELLYN
dgleg@nb.aibn.com
Published Thursday May 24th, 2007
Appeared on page A1
An RCMP security detail has been guarding Justice Minister and Attorney General T.J. Burke because of threats made against him recently.

Burke, the Liberal MLA for Fredericton-Fort Nashwaaksis, wouldn't explain the nature of the threats.

"I have had a particular individual or individuals who have made specific overtures about causing harm towards me," he told reporters Wednesday.

"The RCMP has provided security to me recently by accompanying me to a couple of public functions where the individual is known to reside or have family members in the area," said Burke. "It is nice to have some added protection and that added comfort."

The RCMP provides protection to the premier and MLAs with its VIP security unit.

Burke didn't say when the threat was made but it's believed to have been in recent weeks.

"When a threat is posed to you and it is a credible threat, you have to be cautious about where you go and who you are around," he said. "But again, I am more concerned about my family as opposed to my own personal safety."

Burke said he doesn't feel any differently and he has not changed his pattern of activity.

"It doesn't bother me one bit," he said. "It makes my wife feel awful nervous."

Burke served in an elite American military unit before becoming a lawyer and going into politics in New Brunswick.

"(I) have taken my own precautions and what I have to do to ensure my family's safety," he said. "I am a very cautious person in general due to my background and training.

"I am comfortable with defending myself or my family if it ever had to happen."

Burke said it is not uncommon for politicians to have security concerns.

"We do live unfortunately in an age and in a society now where threats have to be taken pretty seriously," he said.

Since the terrorism attacks in the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, security in New Brunswick has been
beefed up.

Metal detectors were recently installed in the legislature and all visitors are screened.

The position of attorney general is often referred to as the province's "top cop."

Burke said sometimes people do not differentiate between his role as the manager of the justice system and the individual who actually prosecutes them.

"With the job sometimes comes threats," he said. "I have had numerous threats since Day 1 in office."

Burke said he hopes his First Nations heritage has nothing to do with it.

"I think it is more of an issue where people get fixated on a matter and they believe you are personally responsible for assigning them their punishment or their sanction," he said.

Is the threat from someone who was recently incarcerated?

"I probably shouldn't answer that," he replied.

Reporters asked when the threat would be over.

"I don't think a threat ever passes once it has been made," said Burke. "You have to consider the credibility of the source."

Bruce Fitch, former justice minister in the Conservative government, said "every now and again there would be e-mails that were not complimentary."

"I did have a meeting with the RCMP who are in charge of the security of the MLAs and ministers," said Fitch.

"They look at each and every situation."

Fitch said he never had bodyguards assigned to him although former premier Bernard Lord and former health minister Elvy Robichaud did have extra security staff assigned on occasion.

He said if any MLA felt threatened, he or she would discuss it with the RCMP.

Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: After you all read real slow and listen closely say Hoka Hey to Stockwell Day and Petey Baby MacKay for me will ya?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 06:29:37 -0700
From: "Fitzgerald, Patrick (USACAC)" Patrick.Fitzgerald@usdoj.gov
To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

I will be out of the Office until Monday June 4, 2007. If you need to contact someone immediately, please call AUSA Eileen Decker at 213-894-0721 or my assistant Joan Moon at 213-984-4699.

Monday, June 04, 2007

 David Raymond Amos said...

Date:Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:56:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject:Fwd: Re: Fwd: Scary Dean Roger Ray, the FBI, and the RCMP
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I appears that Bad Billy Boy Casey blinked and got the boot because he wants to appear somewhat ethical and will not support Jumping Jimmy Flaherty's budget again this year. Too funny from my point of view. Methinks I can pickem EH? Could it be because Billy and Jimmy have been receiving these same emails these days? I will lays odds Petey Baby MacKay is shitting bricks now that he went back on his word once again and gave one of his few Maritime buddies the boot from his Hunky Fundy Skunky Dorry. Hell even the even Johnny Never Been Good Crosbie is writing advice against the Conservative Party now. Could it be that too many people have read the text of the cover letter I served upon Casey's office just over a year ago and smart Conseratives are leaving Harper's ship before they go down with him too? Casey just has to remember the the Hell I raised with the cops and his politcal cronies in Amherst just before I put my name on the ballet against his old ex cop pal in Nova Scotia the latest soon to be ex Attorney General Murray Scott. It seems that his party is in the toilet as well and the NDP may opt to topple them sometime soon. EH?

If any you haven't bothered to read that letter to Harper, Flaherty and Baird byway of Casey that I referred to, you can find it in my blog along with the text of this email inserted within the comments. Just go to davidamos.blogspot.com then check out Harper and Bankers and the comments you will find yourself there along the Dirty Dicky Dean and his many corrupt cop pals.

Stockwell Day keep blaming the past liberal mandates any time the RCMP is caught with their pants down lately. I strongly doubt that Harper will defend the wrongdoings of Chretien and Martin against me in Federal Court this summer. Do you? Rest assured some liberal lawyers and some of the Bloc should find this particular email interesting even if the nominds in the NDP continue to ignore me as usual.

Interesting EH Cpl Warren McBeath? I am glad I am not in your shoes and have to rely on all the other corrupt RCMP dudes to not spill the beans and embarass you after what I have sent you for the past few days EH? What of Dean Roger Ray's Bullshit? Why support such nonsense by merely trying to ignore it. You are a cop correct? Get your head out of the sand and do your god damned job. Let the politcal cards fall were they may. Hell afterwards you can quit the RCMP and make fine living touring colleges and giving speeches about ethical conduct just like the crooked Conservative Allan Cutler does now.

Dirty Dicky Deany Baby on the other hand even though I enjoyed playing you and your obvious malice towards me like a fiddle, I must say you have sunk to a new low in attacking the demise of my marriage. Even your nasty pals would not appreciate you slamming my very innocent kin. Does your Mama know how many enemies you make out of decent people during the course of a day? Or is she even more nuts than you?

Now that you have attacked my family's reputation and Parliamen is all but done for the summer. I will pounce on you like there is no tommorw on the internet. Live by the sword die by the sword Dirty dicky Dean.. Soon I will blog every word of yours that II have saved of yours so that others may see you for who you truly are before i sue you fat arse along with some of your cop friends and Landslide Annie to sweeten the stew.. Say hey to the corrupt Fed Sean Lowe hiding in his office at the Edmonton airport for me will ya. The next time he comes knocking on your door i will lay odds he will be really pissed off EH? Perhaps in the "mean" timeI will have my wife give your mama a call when she and the kids get up here next month. It should provide some comic relief for us if your Mama opts to slap you silly on our behalf while we listen in over the phone. I don't think you deserve any peace at home as you bitch to the world about the plumbing etc. Why not just grow up and move out of your Mama's apartment and give her some relief from you?

You may rest assured that my wife will not enjoy talking to your Moma nearly as much as I will enjoy crossing paths with you in person someday in order to shove your head up your arse just you truly deserve. Say hey to your nasty Yankee buddy too. My wife's brothers and the crook the Depupty Dog Robert F. O'Meara in particular have a little payback going their way if there is any justice at all in the fine old World. It appears that Wicked Wanda may already be raising a little hell and I bet Depupty Dog's lawyers have instructed him to shut his piehole since February of this year when he teamed up with you for a bit Eh Dirty Dicky Dean?

Now it appears to me that you have lost even more friends and associates EH Diurty Dicky Dean? If not how come you cut down on your fan base when slandering me with you emails? Doesn't everybody deserve to know what an arsehole you are? I will blog this email just like you do. Howver I do not need to pretend to be me. I am me after all. Correct? At least you are correct about one thing. I am a son of the Keith Clan but I seperated from them years ago and founded my own in order to declare a Blood Feud in US District Court in the Live Free or Die State commonly known as New Hampshire. It is you who are a fake. Tis you who has cut and pasted my words and assumed my ID as you took it upon yourself to threaten others in my name just as you did with the crooked Upper Canadain politcal lawyer Bob Rae. Some christian you are Dean Roger Ray. Why the RCMP did not investigate the facts about you and you pals after I reported it and you sent them the evidence forever proved to me that they were licking Stevey Boy Harper's nasty arse as much as you do. N'est Pas?

More important that the shitkicking that Dirty Dicky Dean deserves is the fact that the local RCMP are no doubt more curious than I as to whom the local boys from Glassvile and Bon Accord that are checking out my Blog today EH? I know who I contacted today do they? Seems that i may encounter some serious Maritimers instead of a a flatulent arsehole in Alberta blowing hot air my way EH? Do ya think that the cops may think that the Mob may want the tapes that the Dirty Dicky Dean claims are not for real? That is what I think. If it is true, what should I do? Is it ethical to sell some of the tapes to the Mob in order to hire some crooked lawyers to sue some crooked cops? Everybody knows not to trust lawyers Correct? So perhaps I should just give the tapes to the Mob ASAP so that they may begin suing the law enforcement community themselves and let the shit hit the fan that way? But why should the Mob and their crooked lawyers profit from my integrity? One young liberal supporter in Fredericton claimed that if the Mob or the Feds wanted me dead then i would be just that and I agreed with with a smile. He asked who was protecting me as he refused to accept a copy of a wiretap tape. Should i tell him about the big horse shoe up my arse or just leave him wondering if his buddy TJ Burke can get rid of me.

Decisions Decisions. What about my old bike I confess I do miss it more than my wife. The fact that the crooked little local Crown Attorney Billy Corby ain't even got the sand to call me back just like all the cops within Fat Fred City's Finest is beginning to irratate me. What kind of Maritimers are these men? Hell they can't even put up a good scrap after they went ahead and picked the fight. I remain the Proud Maritimer with no name or no old bike even within the Frenchman, Chucky Leblanc's Blog. It seems that the chickenshit Frenchmen roll around in id rubbing off on other Maritimers as well.

In closing I must ask Chucky Leblanc What about the tapes in my old Harley's saddlebags? Are they even still there? I doubt it too. They likely went poof just like the ones I gave to the RCMP, the Suffolk County District Attorney in Beantown, the ones stolen from my home in Milton MA years ago and the ones the Yankee, my ex lawyer buddy Barry Bachrach sent to Arlen Spector in Washington last year. Rest assured nobody will get them all. Ever. Do ya think the Fat Fred City Finest has pilfered through my saddlebags and stolen the evidence of their malice yet? Do ya think a sneaky French Blogger will pedal his bike across to the North side of the river to find out and ask the idiot boss of Capital City Towing for an nterveiw about the old Harley he has locked up? That old bike is no doubt older and far more worldly wise than Allan MacFee or his incompetent cop pal Cpl Randy Reilly of Fat Fred City Finest could ever be. There is your clue Chucky that is if one of your five French brains are paying any attention at all.. Never forget Chucky you have complete copy of wiretap tape # 139 that you failed to give to Brad Green as you promied almost exactly three very long years ago. N'est Pas?

I am tired I am not even going to try to proof read this. I am just going to click send and blog it then go to buddy's couch for a nap. I must thank him for the use of his internet connection. He has to pay for it whereas Chucky gets his for free along with all his bureaucrat pals. My friend works hard in order to help pay for Chucky Leblanc's welfare support and share his family's supper with me sometimes. I am honoured that a decent Maritimer thinks that well of me. The ones I don't like can go to Hell. They could not pay me to break bread with them no matter how hungry I get. I will be damned if I will beg for welfare from the smiling bastards. If I can't earn my supper then it is time for me to die. If the cops or the Mob or Dean roger Ray and all his pals hate a Free man defending his family's rights then they will have to make me stop breathing. I will do my best to not make it too easy for them if they wish to try.

for the record once more I did not threaten or stalk TJ Burke or anyone else ever. The cops and the lawyers and the politicians are the liars not me.
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos


dean Ray deanr0032@hotmail.com wrote:

From: "dean Ray" deanr0032@hotmail.com
To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com, fbinhct@leo.gov, samperrier@hotmail.com, lorraineroche@gov.nl.ca, alltrue@nl.rogers.com
CC: Aurele.Daigle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, info@electionsquebec.qc.ca
Subject: Re: Fwd: Scary Dean Roger Ray, the FBI, and the RCMP
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:44:53 -0600

David Amos you talk like your some sort of scottish hero out of the Histoy books protecting your clan.

In truth your wife left you and you are a court weasle working for a very corrupt system kicked out of politics because you got frustrated no one voted for you.

Your wiretap tapes that are so amazing are of a mafia hit and may not be legal due to severe fbi corruption. Ifthose tapes exposed perps like you discussing how to harm targeted individuLS EVERYONE WOULD WANT TO LISTEN

WWW,STOPCOVERTWAR.COM

Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:

Again, please remove me from your e-mail list.

Warren McBeath, Cpl.
GRC Caledonia RCMP
Traffic Services NCO
Ph: (506) 387-2222
Fax: (506) 387-4622
E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 21:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject:Re: Fwd: Scary Dean Roger Ray, the FBI, and the RCMP
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Again Hell No Mr. McBeath. It goes under the heading of Integrity and by now you cops must understand that nobody can scare me away from my necessary and very justifiable task. For the benefit of my little Clan no can do. Quite asking such nonsense and just act within the scope of your employment, especially when so many crooks are worried and wondering what to do. It seems to me that ethical conduct ain't crossed anybody's mind yet. Surprise Surprise N'est Pas? Look for yourself. Heres hoping that somebody gets enough sand to at least mention my name in Parliament during question period or in the media within the next two weeks or better yet some smart civil servant calls the dude that is supposed to assist whistleblowers whose job was created by Johnny Never Been Good's Accountability Act. Rest assured I already called his office and he will receive hard copy.

Toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble. Drink the witches brew or fess up and sooth your own soul. Sprout some balls and blow the whistle will ya Warren before you are transferred off to Ottawa because your French ain't so good? Yea right. Or could it be that you are just smart enough to realize you are in deep shit and are demanding to exit stage left or you will spill the beans? I must confess you were the smartest cop that I have talked to to date. Too bad you don't have a conscience too EH? I had high hopes for you last Xmass.. Now tell me honestly are you related to the McBeath character who is the boss of Grant Thornton in Toronto whom I was spitting and chewing with at the same time?

I will lay odds that you dudes could not have suffered through two Xmass' like I just did let alone all that has happened during the past six years without blowing your top. I swear i have never lost my temper. What you bastards are saying of me is pure malice. Warren you know for a fact that I am no liar you even watched your own not so honourable police force block three emails to you whilst we were talking on the phone just after your mean olf boss Zack had been replaced by Busson. Remember?

I heard that after I left Peticodiac your cop pals pulled over Werner and Kathleen and asked them where the hell I went. Why didn't you crooks just call me like the dumb Frenchman Cst Daigle did? Everybody knows I am not a shy man. Furthermore I have done nothing wrong . However the RCMP certainly has many wrongs to stand accountable for in court aor at least in public on the World Wide Web. EH? I have no problem whatsoever telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth to everyone. Why are you replying only to me if were wrong about you? you had no problen forwarding your first answer to me to Busson etc to cover your arse. Correct?

Again I must ask why did you and your fellow cops support the many false allegations made against me over the years, allowed that wacko Dean Roger Ray and his friends to threaten me and most importantly laugh and ignore the demise of all the cattle on Werner's farm over the years? Last but not least tell the crook Allan MacFee of Capital Towing in Fat Fred City to give me my Harley back. He has no right whatsoever to demand that I return to the States and buy NH tags and insurance before he will release my property to me. I don't care what the dumb as a post cop Randy Reilly of Fat Fred Finest may wish to claim. It quite simply is not true what he claims to have the right to demand. From his Chief, Barry McKnight on down the cops are to chicken to even come to the phoine since the FBI in Chicago called me weeks ago.

Guess who is blogging this email right now Warren? Just Google your name and mine.

Cya'll in Court or Hell. C'est la meme chose N'est Pas?
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

P.S. Tell me are the Feds planning to kill my Yahoo Account now like ya did with my email through Werner? Better ask their General counsel Mikey Callahan about the material that I sent him two god damned years ago

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Minister mum on qualifications of new head of public library service

Kevin Cormier may have no library experience, but Trevor Holder says give him a chance in top job

Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon· CBC News· Posted: Mar 04, 2020 11:54 AM AT




Labour Minister Trevor Holder declined to discuss the qualifications of the 11 people who applied for the position. (Ed Hunter/CBC)


Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour Minister Trevor Holder is defending the controversial appointment of Kevin Cormier as executive director of the New Brunswick Public Library Service.

But he won't say why Cormier was hired or what makes him qualified to run the province's 64 public libraries.

"I have never publicly talked about any civil servant's qualifications and I'm not about to start now," Holder told reporters during a conference call on Wednesday.

Holder said it was unprecedented for a minister to be "wading into an individual human resource issue," but he acknowledged "there seems to be a whole lot of questions swirling around" and he wanted to "explain the process and everyone's involvement in it."

Cormier's apparent lack of library training or experience has become the focus of a widespread public discussion since CBC News reported on his Feb. 18 appointment to the position that pays $114,000 annually.

• Librarians making noise about new head of New Brunswick public library service

• New head of public library service got rid of 'hundreds' of books at Kings Landing library

The job posting listed "essential qualifications" as a master's degree in library and/or information studies from an American Library Association-accredited program, as well as a minimum of eight years of "progressively responsible related work experience."

 A combination of education, training and experience may be considered, it said.

Cormier's LinkedIn profile lists his education as a single year at York University's Schulich School of Business in Toronto (2005) and two years at the Moncton Flight College (1998-2000).

He got his start in the public service in 2004 under the former Bernard Lord government as manager of marketing and communications for Service New Brunswick. In 2008, he moved to the Department of Tourism, spending three years as manager of advertising and publications before moving on to become CEO of Kings Landing historical settlement near Fredericton for seven years. He spent the past year at the government's Executive Council Office.

He was appointed the head of the library service through the Corporate Talent Management Program, which provides current and aspiring executives in the upper pay bands with opportunities to further develop their competencies within and/or outside their current department.

What I would suggest is that New Brunswickers give this individual the time to prove himself.

- Trevor Holder, labour minister

Holder declined to discuss the qualifications of the 11 people who applied for the job when it was initially posted as an open competition.

He also declined to say whether he thinks the qualifications listed in the job posting are necessary.

"What I will say is I do think that [the government] may potentially need to look at how we word job applications overall, period, so that we're very clear in what we want as a province and what we need to get there."

Asked whether public confidence might be increased by a more transparent government hiring and appointment process, Holder agreed it's something that could be reviewed.

"Maybe there are ways that this can teach us how we move forward and make the hiring process better."

Holder said he understands some people "have concerns" about the appointment.


Trevor Holder, who was tourism minister in 2012, when he is pictured here with Kevin Cormier (left), then-executive director of Kings Landing and York MLA Carl Urquhart, said he was not involved in Cormier's appointment as the head of the public library service. (Government of New Brunswick)


But he has "complete confidence" the proper process was followed and that there was no political patronage involved "whatsoever."

"I want to make myself crystal clear on this, I never had any knowledge of this person's hiring until such time as my deputy minister informed me that he had the job," he told reporters, who were limited to two questions each during the conference call.

"If anybody can prove one way or the other that myself, Premier [Blaine] Higgs or the PC Party of New Brunswick had any involvement in this hiring, they better cough it up, because it doesn't exist."

Deputy ministers are responsible for the hiring of civil servants, said Holder. The deputy minister who appointed Comier — Sadie Perron — is no longer with the department. She was appointed interim CEO of Opportunities New Brunswick, effective March 1.

 


Kevin Cormier, the executive director of the New Brunswick Public Library Service, previously served seven years as the chief executive officer of Kings Landing Corporation. (Kevin Cormier/Facebook)

Perron did not agree to an interview Wednesday, but emailed a brief statement. Cormier has the "qualifications and skills we are looking for at this time, including leadership abilities, management experience, a results-oriented collaborative approach with partners and stakeholders, and creative thinking," she said.

Perron did not address concerns that have been raised about the discrepancy between the "essential qualifications" listed in the open competition and Cormier's public resume, but said she's confident the library service will "thrive" under his leadership.

Cormier has not responded to multiple requests for an interview.

The minister said he will be "watching this situation very closely."

"What I would suggest is that New Brunswickers give this individual the time to prove himself."

On Wednesday, Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers repeated his party's call for Cormier's appointment to be rescinded.



Sadie Perron, as former deputy minister of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, appointed Kevin Cormier through the Corporate Talent Management Program. (Government of New Brunswick)

Union 'condemns' appointment

Earlier this week, the Association of University of New Brunswick Teachers, the largest union representing librarians in the province, issued a statement, saying it "condemns" the appointment of a non-librarian as the head of the provincial library service.

The union, which represents academic librarians, not the public library service librarians Cormier is now in charge of, contends "the education and expertise of professional librarians is fundamental to a strong public library system that serves the public good,"
 

Having librarians in leadership positions is "essential," it said, because librarians know the key issues facing public libraries and can advocate to political leaders who do not always understand the value of public libraries.

The AUNBT urged the government to "reconsider" its decision.

Last week, the Atlantic Provinces Library Association issued an open letter to Holder expressing "concerns" and seeking clarification of Cormier's qualifications.

The outgoing chair of the New Brunswick Public Libraries Board, René Ephestion, who only learned of Cormier's appointment through a CBC report, also expressed concerns and requested an immediate meeting to discuss his "intentions."

Ephestion, a former Liberal leadership candidate, said he feared Cormier was brought in to "cut more."




The minister said there are no plans to make any major changes right now.

"We're looking at ways to enhance the library system to make it better and stronger for the people in New Brunswick," said Holder.

He said his department will make sure the necessary funding and policies are in place to ensure a vibrant system.

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Terry Tibbs
Next time I go to see my doctor should I be asking her to see her credentials?
(in this "just kidding" province where credentials, and experience, count for nothing when someone in government decides to give someone a chance)

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: How is your portable wealth doing lately?

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Oops I see that you answered me already

Paul Bourgoin

You hired him and if I understand right he must have been rated as qualified, you gave him the Job. Now he isn't competent WHY?

 

 

Ben Haroldson

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Because he never was. You need to learn how politicians work.

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Methinks many would agree that the politicians don't work They just play wicked games with our money N'esy Pas?

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Daughter of Dennis Oland's defence lawyer was a producer of CBC documentary The Oland Murder

Revelation raises questions about journalistic judgment in 4-part series airing on CBC

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Mar 06, 2020 3:34 PM AT



Dennis Oland was acquitted last year after a retrial on a charge of first-degree murder in the death of his father, Richard Oland. He was interviewed for CBC's four-part series, The Oland Murder. (The Oland Murder/CBC)

A co-producer of a major documentary series on the Richard Oland murder case broadcast by the CBC is the daughter of Dennis Oland's lead defence lawyer, CBC News has learned.

The revelation casts a new light on the unprecedented access that the documentary team had to Dennis Oland and his defence team, including top criminal lawyer Alan Gold.

It also raises questions about journalistic judgment, given that series co-producer Caitlin Gold Teitelbaum is Gold's daughter.

CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices (JSP) says the corporation's news operations will "refrain from any involvement with stories in which a member of our immediate family (including in-laws) has a strong stake."

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It adds that when a conflict is unavoidable, news managers and the journalist "will develop a protocol to protect the integrity of our journalism."

The Oland Murder, a four-part series that began airing on CBC Television on March 4, was not produced by CBC News employees but was commissioned by the corporation and produced by an independent production company, Seven Knots Media Inc.


The Oland Murder was co-produced by Caitlin Gold, the daughter of Alan Gold, Dennis Oland's lead defence lawyer. (The Oland Murder/CBC)

Even so, lead producer Deborah Wainwright told a court last year that she would adhere to the same standards as CBC journalists.

"Am I correct to say that you don't consider yourself to be a journalist?" Crown lawyer Kathryn Gregory asked Wainwright, during a hearing on whether she could use audio recordings of Dennis Oland's two trials.

"I'm not a journalist, but for this project I'm adhering to the Journalistic Standards and Practices of the CBC," Wainwright replied. "I'm following the JSP for this project."

Gold Teitelbaum is listed as co-producer "Caitlin Gold" in the credits of the documentary, which tells the story of the July 2011 murder of Richard Oland and the prosecution of his son Dennis for the crime.
 

Caitlan Gold got a co-producer credit as a courtesy after she helped the film crew gain access to the Oland family and defence team, the CBC says. (CBC)

Dennis Oland was convicted by a jury in his first trial in 2015 but, following an appeal of that decision, was acquitted by Justice Terrence Morrison at a retrial last July.

Wainwright did not respond to a request left on her voicemail.

CBC spokesperson Chuck Thompson said Friday in an emailed statement that the CBC was not aware of the family relationship before now, but the documentary "met all of our JSP guidelines," and "we have final say over the creative."

Gold Teitelbaum "provided the producers with unprecedented access to the defendant, as well as his defence team," Thompson said.

"She received an associate producer credit as a courtesy and while we acknowledge the family connection could be perceived as a conflict of interest, Caitlin had no editorial input."

Thompson's response contradicts Wainwright's account of how the team got access to the Oland family.
 

Richard Oland, 69, was found dead in his Saint John office on July 7, 2011. (Canadian Yachting Association)

She told CBC's Information Morning Fredericton earlier this week that the family was "a little leery at first" but eventually agreed.

"I think perhaps the timing was right, and the fact I was from the other side of the country maybe seemed like I came with less of a bias," Wainwright said.

"I didn't know the Olands. I didn't know anything about New Brunswick, so I think I came with an open mind."
 

Lead producer Deborah Wainwright didn't mention Caitlin Gold's connection when asked in interviews this week how she gained such broad access to the defence team during the murder trial. (CBC/The Oland Murder)

Wainwright did not reveal in that interview that her co-producer's father was Oland's defence lawyer.
In a Facebook post last month, Gold Teitelbaum described the project to friends as a three-year "journey" for her and "a wild ride," adding it was finally ready for air.

"Congrats Cait!" wrote one friend. "Does the best criminal defense lawyer in Canada (who shall remain nameless) make an appearance?"

Gold Teitelbaum replied with three heart emojis.
 

Lisa Oland, Dennis Oland's wife was interviewed for The Oland Murder, which the CBC began broadcasting this week. (The Oland Murder/CBC)

She did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent via Facebook, and by mid-Friday afternoon the post about the series was no longer public on her page.

Stephen Kimber, who teaches journalism at the University of King's College in Halifax, said the CBC should be transparent about the Gold connection.

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"It is an important issue for viewers to know when they see the documentary … that there was this personal connection," he said. "Then they are in a position as an audience to make a judgment about what they think about the legitimacy of all of that. That's the key to me."


A screen capture from Caitlin Gold's Facebook makes a reference to her father, Alan Gold. (Facebook)

Kimber said audience members would "have a hard job" distinguishing between CBC News content and an independently produced documentary, and in any case the corporation owes it to its audience to be up front about the Gold link.

"In this era of fake news, it's really important that all media outlets be as transparent as possible," he said.

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"It's that kind of transparency that is, first of all, really important for the audience to know. And secondly from the CBC's point of view, its credibility, which is obviously vital to its function, is called into question if it's not transparent."

While the broadcaster's documentary unit is separate from its news unit, CBC communications and marketing staff contacted CBC News producers in New Brunswick in recent weeks to ask for news coverage of the documentary's release.

 
Connie Oland, Dennis Oland's mother and Richard Oland's widow, was interviewed for the four-part documentary. (The Oland Murder/CBC)

Wainwright appeared on the three local Information Morning shows in Saint John, Fredericton and Moncton, N.B., earlier this week to promote the documentary and also spoke to CBC Television in the province.

Two CBC News reporters who covered the trial, Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon and Robert Jones, were interviewed for the documentary without being told about the Gold connection. The series also uses CBC News archival footage.

The Globe and Mail television critic John Doyle gave The Oland Murder a rave review in a column on Monday, calling it "terrific true-crime storytelling."

Doyle noted the production's intimate access to Dennis Oland, his family and his defence lawyers, and said the series raised questions about the prosecution's case.

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Wainwright applied to the Court of Queen's Bench last year for access to the court's audio recordings of the two Oland trials.

In her affidavit, she said Oland's defence lawyers had told her they did not object to the request. She said Gold had told her he didn't want her to use Oland's emotional reaction to the guilty verdict in the first trial, and she agreed.

She eventually dropped her request to use the audio.

With files from Hadeel Ibrahim

CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices

 



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David Amos

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Methinks Chucky Thompson should agree that would not be wise to block my latest comment N'esy Pas?  



 

David Amos
WOW Methinks its truly amazing how much went "Poof" in the last hour alone N'esy Pas? 







David Amos
For the record Dick Oland was a friend of mine and I never met the rest of his family. However I know as sure as i am sitting here that his son did not murder him. Everybody knows that I do not trust his lawyers and the cops as far as I could throw them.


ROB CLARK

Reply to @David Amos: Methinks N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @ROB CLARK: Your point is???

David Amos
Methinks Wainwright and Oland's lawyers and friends can never deny that I tried to talk them N'esy Pas?

Manny Fredrick

Reply to @David Amos: What language are you speaking?

Larry Larson 

Reply to @Manny Fredrick: Il speaks Chiac!

David Amos

Reply to @Larry Larson: C'est Vrai However methinks I am a man not a thing N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Manny Fredrick: Google the following in English

David Amos Alan Gold

David Amos
I am watching this "documentary" for the first time Thus far I have found that the opinion of the John Blackshear Phd to be the most impressive. So I called him and told him so just now byway of his voicemail.  


David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: FYI I believed Dan Sosnowski too Trust that I called him as well and told him so personally. 




























toby mockler
CBC is 100% above board 100% of the time and is always 100% unbiased.

Buddy Best

Reply to @toby mockler: LOL Sarcasm!!!

David Amos

Reply to @toby mockler: Yea Right

  
Robert William
What does it really matter, Dennis Oland was found not guilty, end of story.

Max Kaminsky

Reply to @Robert William:
Now comes the task of rehabilitating the image of a Liberal Party fundraiser.

Diane Knight 

Reply to @Robert William: If it was your father, it would matter.

David Amos

Reply to @Robert William: Nope The killer has yet to meet justice

David Amos

Reply to @Max Kaminsky: Methinks Higgy's minions have no class N'esy Pas? 


Buddy Best
Reply to @Robert William: Merely one humans opinion. The judge in each of their involvements were wrong except for the first one. Jury said Guilty!!! End of story!!!!! 

Max Kaminsky

CBC defending friends of the Liberal Party of Canada.

drew Currah

Reply to @Max Kaminsky:
Never!!!!!

Fred Dee

Reply to @drew Currah: lol

Buddy Best

Reply to @drew Currah: You missed the trial and the doc!!

Mackenna Wilson

Reply to @Max Kaminsky: Ironic when Putin's employees call the CBC an engine of the Liberal Party.

David Amos

Reply to @Mackenna Wilson: Methinks the truth is more often ironic than not N'esy Pas/ 

 

Larry Larson

Film has zero credibility!

Buddy Best

Reply to @Larry Larson: The defence team had a high priced investigation team to dig up a lot of evidence and didn't do so well. They could find one single other suspect. Is Oland suing for costs now and this is the catalyst. I expect this cost the family million$.

Samual Johnston 

Reply to @Buddy Best: is not up to them to find another suspect. A blind man at midnight could see the police bungled the whole investigation and tried to pin it on the son. So much reasonable doubt existed it is a crime that he was found guilty to begin with. Saint John jealousy

Mackenna Wilson

Reply to @Buddy Best: They weren't looking for suspects. It's not their job. It's the crown's job to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. Defense has no obligation to find suspects.

Buddy Best 

Reply to @Mackenna Wilson: If they had found so much as a hair that pointed in any other direction you would be singing a different tune and so would they. The came, they looked and they found nothing!!!!! The crow must stay with just provable facts, but the defence can claim Martians did it as an alternative. In this case the cops did it? Guilty.

David Amos

Reply to @Larry Larson: Methinks many folks found it well worth watching even if it was just a self promoting production by Gold and his pals at the expense of their client whether he win or lose They made out like bandits N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Buddy Best: Methinks you should watch it again with your lawyer I suspect that he will tell you done it.I bet even you must have laughed when Mindless Morris rolled her eyes when she said Gold must be a good lawyer merely because he has represented the Hells Angels N'esy Pas? 
 

 

Samual Johnston
Reply to @Buddy Best: less than perfect investigation....ok there is no convincing someone that says that.


























Jeffrey Winterbottom
The irony of talking about journalistic integrity here


David Amos

Reply to @Jeffrey Winterbottom: Welcome to the circus

Chris Melvin 
So first... tax payers pay both Bobbi Jean McKinnon and Robert Jones to sit in a courtroom for months to report on the trial... then McKinnon earns additional income from that by selling a book. Then Jones and McKinnon are likely paid to appear in this “documentary” funded by CBC but both claim they didn’t know Caitlin Gold was related to Alan Gold? Interesting....


jean forbes

Reply to @Chris Melvin: don't ya know - it is disrespectful to ask 'personal' questions of folks telling you what they want you to know?

Buddy Best

Reply to @Chris Melvin: I had the utmost respect for Robert and Bobbi Jean until now.

David Amos

Reply to @Buddy Best: Trust that I NEVER did

 






















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Liberals soften budget vote stance in light of COVID-19

Party leaving decision up to chief medical officer, says MLA Roger Melanson

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Mar 12, 2020 3:35 PM AT



'We will follow the advice of the chief medical officer and Public Health officials in regards to how to go about moving forward," said Liberal finance critic and Dieppe MLA Roger Melanson. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

The Liberal opposition opened the door a little wider Thursday to abandoning their push for an early provincial election now that New Brunswick has its first case of COVID-19.

Finance critic and Dieppe MLA Roger Melanson told reporters the party was essentially leaving it up to Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Jennifer Russell whether it should try to send New Brunswickers to the polls next week.

"We will follow the advice of the chief medical officer and Public Health officials in regards to how to go about moving forward," Melanson said.

"If that means we need to make decisions or changes, we'll listen."

• Liberal MLA Lowe still mulling over his budget vote

• Social assistance increases don't go far enough, say advocates for poor

The Liberals announced Feb. 11 that they would attempt to force an election after the Progressive Conservative minority government announced health reforms that included the nighttime closure of six small-hospital emergency rooms.

The PCs withdrew the plan five days later, but in the legislature Thursday morning Melanson said New Brunswickers had lost trust in the government over the fiasco, and that's why his party will try to vote down the budget, triggering an election.

He repeated that on a CBC political panel Thursday, to which PC Finance Minister Ernie Steeves replied: "You think calling an election now would bring the trust back to you?"

Melanson said if the government believes an election isn't warranted it could delay the legislature's vote on the budget expected Friday March 20. "They have that right," he said.

But Steeves said the vote will go ahead next week. "The budget is the budget."

COVID-19 concerns

Earlier this week Green Party Leader David Coon said an election might not be a good idea given that it can involve many large gatherings and a lot of social contact.

On Thursday the Quebec government banned public events of more than 250 people after the number of cases there jumped from nine to 13.

Melanson said it was too early to speculate about how such a decision here would affect an election.

"It would be very different as a campaign. But we're not making those decisions today."


The Liberals announced Feb. 11 that they would attempt to force an election after the Progressive Conservative minority government announced health reforms that included the nighttime closure of six small-hospital emergency rooms. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

Asked by reporters if there was any room for the PCs and Liberals to work together on a compromise about the budget and election timing, Melanson said it was "too early to make any decision or any consideration like that" and the party would heed Russell's guidance.

 "She's quite credible and she has a lot of knowledge and we'll listen carefully and make decisions accordingly," he said.

Russell said Thursday afternoon that she was recommending the cancellation of any public events of more than 150 people — a size that covers many typical election events — but wouldn't comment further.

"Whether there's an election or not, it would have to be considered in light of these particular issues," she said.

Coon said a special committee of the premier, key cabinet ministers and all political party leaders will hold its first meeting tomorrow night to discuss the response to COVID-19.


David Coon, New Brunswick's Green Party leader, will announce his plans on the budget vote Friday. (CBC)

The committee could discuss "how that election might proceed based on the advice of the chief medical officer of health, with all four party leaders in the same room on this committee," Coon said.
"Obviously it wasn't just set up for that discussion but it's going to be an important opportunity where that discussion can occur if it's needed."

Coon is a pivotal vote on the budget and he plans to reveal Friday morning how he will vote on the document.

Premier Blaine Higgs said he hopes the all-party committee will let "cooler heads prevail" on a possible campaign.

"I won't be talking about the possibility of an election because I don't think we should have one, but it'll be up to my colleagues in the legislature to decide that next Friday," he said.

"I think our full focus has to be on this situation, and we should have all hands on deck and that should be our main task."

Accusations fly

Melanson's official response to the budget in the legislature Thursday was punctuated by a series of procedural complaints by the PC government over his choice of words.

The Liberal MLA said the government had "deliberately deceived" the legislature, one example of violating the parliamentary rule against accusing another member of lying.

PC house leader Glen Savoie asked Melanson to withdraw the comments and he did, but not before Liberal house leader Guy Arseneault said he wanted to congratulate Melanson for the speech.
 

Melanson violated the parliamentary rule against accusing another member of lying and later withdrew his comments. (CBC)

"I like it, I like it, I like it," Arseneault shouted to the applause of Liberal MLAs.

Coon said he didn't think the sharp partisan exchange was a sign the parties couldn't work together on a major issue like COVID-19.

"There's always lots of political theatre in the legislative assembly, and I think what you were seeing was political theatre. When the rubber hits the road, I think the political theatre will be put aside."

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David Amos
Methinks this circus get more entertaining by the hour these days N'esy Pas?








Lou Bell 

Higgs has done such a good job even Marc uerite has gone into hiding !

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Lou DumBell: droll, very droll !

David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks if you speak of the devil he is sure to appear N'esy Pas?

Lou Bell

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Where's the next meeting ? And I expect Gauvin , Arsenault will be attending. Plan B didn't work and Liberals have lost supporters faster than a sheep being sheared in the sprintime loses it's wool. Looks very Baaaaaadd for the Liberals. More than even Farmer Arsenault would have answers to.

Lou Bell
Even Amos has more credibility than the Liberals ! Other than their " me first " agendas.


Donald Smith

Reply to @Lou Bell: lolololo

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks the lady doth jest too much The Fat Lady ain't singing until March 20th and that is a eternity for your Hero Higgy In the "Mean" time obviously I am enjoying the circus as usual N'esy Pas?

David Amos

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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks I have every right to say that you have no credibility whatsoever. I would lay odds that you would be complaining more than I am if your hero Higgy put a "Stay" on your Medicare Card and you had to pay the emergency room bills and the the doctors fees out of pocket like I am forced to do N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: Oh My MY Methinks somebody can't handle the awful truth in a replay to someone who attacked me N'esy Pas?

John Pokiok

I can't believe that Irving has bought every politician in this province this is crazy. This budget only benefits the rich business owners nothing absolutely nothing for working class. In a mist when everyone is asking for tax reform to get heavy industry to pay their fair share this government gives them break. Higgs is Irving man you have to be blind to not see it shame.

Dianne MacPherson 

Reply to @John Pokiok:
You didn't read the budget either.
Give it a rest !!!!

Lou Bell

Reply to @John Pokiok: Meanwhile , Anglophones in NB who voted Liberal last election have come to realize who they really represent. Never again . That 130 million dollar undisclosed giveaway will be the bee in the elephants behind for the Liberals for decades to come.

David Webb NB

Reply to @Lou Bell: Nope, not the ones that were dyed red at birth

Bobby Burke 

Reply to @Dianne MacPherson: - Not necessarily so, but, nice “Job Security” work here. If you can’t see that the Irving’s are destroying NB, then the Education System continues to do it’s job, ...so very sad, by those who can see this “ROBBERY”!

John Pokiok 

Reply to @Dianne MacPherson: I read the budget small increase to welfare recepeints and 8.75% property tax reduction for Industry. My assessment went up how about yours. Whats in it for working class?

Bobby Burke

Reply to @Dianne MacPherson: - You must not have heard, or read, ...MILLIONS TO THE GLUTTONOUS IRVING FAMILY, & pennies to The down trodden. Only if you or a loved one works for the EMPIRE, can I understand your post.

David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you need to learn to speak for yourself Trust that you have no right whatsoever to speak for any other Anglophone in NB no matter which political party they opt to support or no politician at all N'esy Pas? 

Terry Hughes
Nessy paw this. It's a very good budget. Mr. Higgs is doing a good job. His solutions are not "plant a tree and all is well" 


David Amos
Reply to @Terry Hughes: Methinks you must work for Higgy or the Irving Clan or both N'esy Pas?

David Amos 

Reply to @Terry Hughes: Methinks the awful truth is that Higgy has been the Premier for 18 months or so only because the PANB supported him. Now the Green Party claim to hold the reigns of power which only proves my point that this is quite a circus and the we get the governments we deserve when blindly vote for political parties instead of people N'esy Pas?

Too Too Funny Indeed I doubt the Greens or the PANB will have as many seats as they now enjoy when the Fat Lady sings after the the next election. Nessy paw this

"This is a minority government where my colleagues and I in the Green caucus hold the balance of responsibility," he said. "We don't need to trust this government to safeguard the public good. Not a single piece of legislation can pass without our support."

He said many people have lost trust in Premier Blaine Higgs and many lack confidence in Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers.

"I ask that you trust me," Coon said. "We have your back, New Brunswick."

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Hughes: Your wish was my command but I doubt that you will get to read it

David Amos
I wonder what I am not permitted to read


David Amos

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Methinks lots of folks are just like me and sincerely wish that the comments others did not go "Poof" N'esy Pas? 

 

David Amos
I read the news today Did you?? If Not Go figure

From The Associated Press, updated at 7:30 a.m. ET

"China, where the virus emerged late last year, still accounts for more than 60 per cent of global infections. But on Friday it reported just eight new cases and seven deaths. More than 64,000 people have been released from hospitals.

With China's caseload slowing, the government was helping other countries with its expertise. A Chinese medical crew was heading to Italy and surplus supplies were sent to Iran."

"China reported just 8 cases of the coronavirus on Friday, with no new domestic infections outside the epicentre of Hubei province"

"South Korea reported 114 new cases and was near 8,000 overall. Officials said 177 patients were released from hospitals, making Friday the first day recoveries outnumbered new infections since the country's first patient was confirmed on Jan. 20."


























Lou Bell
Kinda hard to vote against a budget that everyone likes ! And I suspect there's not an UNDISCLOSED 130 million dollar giveaway hidden somewhere after it's approval !!


David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Speak for yourself Methinks I may not be a part of Trudeau The Younger's beloved "Peoplekind" but I don't like Higgy's budget nor do many other folks you don't like N'esy Pas?

Lou Bell
Polls are NOT a virus ! Time to man up and admit it's not the Covid-19 responsible for their bailout of an election ! It's also become quite obvious who's running the Liberal Party ! Melanson and his SANB cohorts . A true leader would be making announcments like this 


David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should not advise another to "man up" in light of the fact that you can't do so yourself N'esy Pas?

David Amos  

Reply to @Lou Bell: Polls or a virus may make you feel ill but at least you have a Medicare Card yet make fun of the fact that I do not 

 

Joe Rootliek
Hard to have an election around COVID - 19, could infect everyone at the polls.


David Amos 

Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Methinks this latest virus scare is working out very well for certain politicians and their banksters buddies N'esy Pas?

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Not if e-voting were allowed. Vote from the comfort of your home or from anywhere in the world.

Paul Estey
Leaving the decision up to the Chief Medical Officer to call an election, when she doesnt even have a vote in the Legislatture??? What happened to the Leader of the Liberal Party who has the one calling for the vote to drop the House since before the budget was even presented. Sounds like the sitting members have taken decision making from their leader. Thats a first.


Joe Rootliek 

Reply to @Paul Estey: You trust what happens behind a computer. You cannot see where your vote goes, you are only told where it goes.

David Amos

Reply to @Paul Estey: Methinks according to the Canadian Constitution whereas the leader of the Liberal Party cannot vote in the legislature because he has no seat then it should not matter what Vicky says about anything in the media because political parties have no standing in our Constitution N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Paul Estey: Methinks we are the ones with the true power These dudes are elected only on a temporary basis to speak for us Nobody voted for Vicky. Hence he has no more say as to whether the government should stand or fall than you do N'esy Pas?

Fred Brewer
When will Canada and its provinces allow online voting? Online voting would:
1) Reduce the cost of elections drastically.
2) Allow almost instant results.
3) Allow elections to proceed despite disruptions like weather or pandemics.
4) It could allow polling of the electorate by plebiscite or referendum on any important issues.


Joe Rootliek 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: You trust what happens behind a computer. You cannot see where your vote goes, you are only told where it goes.

Joe Rootliek 

Reply to @Joe Rootliek: The costs- you still have to hire technical support, virus support, to make sure things are up and up.

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Joe Rootliek: And after your paper ballot goes into the ballot box or into the scanner you have to TRUST that it is handled and recorded properly. Do not be afraid of technology. An electronic voting system leaves an auditable trail that can be verified by the political parties or judges if necessary. Also bear in mind that many countries have already adopted e-voting systems for a decade or more. If they can do it, why can't we?

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Joe Rootliek: The government has its own IT department, so there really would be no extra cost for tech support or virus support.

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Joe Rootliek: Speaking of trust, did you not follow what happened in the last election where Gerry Lowe and Barry Ogden fought an expensive, lengthy court battle over voter fraud? There were 71 voter irregularities and Lowe won by 10 votes. More than 20 voters voted twice and Court costs exceeded $400,000. E-voting would make double voting impossible.

David Amos

Reply to @Fred Brewer: Cry me a river 

 

Peter C. Shearer
Bahhhhhhhh something good coming from this virus... it's giving the greens and libs and excuse to vote for the budget and not cause an election that they would lose. Finally listened to the people of NB whp said we don't want an election yet.


David Amos 

Reply to @Peter C. Shearer: Methinks not all the Feds think like you N'esy Pas? 

 

Dan Armitage
Go ahead push an election . GOOD LUCK!


David Amos  

Reply to @Dan Armitage: What will you do with no sports or circus to watch? 

Yves Savoie

If the Liberals have to use Vickers as their leader, they are really going down the tank... 

David Amos

Reply to @Yves Savoie: Methinks many would agree that they were always there N'esy Pas?

Yves Savoie

Look at the first picture, I think Melanson should see a doctor ASAP!  

David Amos

Reply to @Yves Savoie: At least Melanason has a Medicare Card Higgy is keeping the "Stay" on mine so I have to pay for health care for no reason I will ever understand. 

Colin Seeley

“ Socialism is the Philosophy of Failure “ -

Winston Churchill.

Michel Forgeron

Reply to @Colin Seeley: “The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerated the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism: ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.”
― Franklin D. Roosevelt

David Amos

Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/green-leader-pc-budget-1.5496809

Unprecedented day in legislature as budget, carbon tax bills pass in 17 minutes

Green leader's vote was key to getting the budget passed and avoiding spring election

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Mar 13, 2020 1:35 PM AT




All four party leaders, from left, Premier Blaine Higgs, People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin, Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers, and Green Leader David Coon, talked to reporters after the speedy passage of the budget. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)


In a series of high-speed procedural votes, the New Brunswick legislature passed the Higgs government's budget Friday afternoon, clearing the way for politicians and civil servants to turn their full attention to the COVID-19 outbreak.

MLAs crammed what would normally take weeks of debate, committee sessions and votes into a 17-minute blitz that also passed the government's carbon-tax legislation.

But the most dramatic turn of events was a 24-0 vote in which the budget passed, guaranteeing there will be no provincial election this spring.

PC and People's Alliance MLAs were joined by Green Leader David Coon in voting for the motion. All Liberals, as well as Green members Kevin Arseneau and Megan Mitton and independent MLA Robert Gauvin, abstained.

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"I have never been prouder to be part of this assembly than I am right today," Premier Blaine Higgs declared when the voting was over.

He praised all MLAs for allowing the votes to move quickly and gave them a guarantee on an issue that first led the Opposition Liberals to push for an early election: health reforms announced and then cancelled in February.

"There's been a lot of angst created over the past few weeks and months over the 24-hour emergency care in these rural hospitals," he said.

"I want to set the record straight: there will be emergency services 24/7 in these hospitals, but we will be facing together what our challenges are in the health system. And I'm asking for the same co-operation that we've seen today to work together for solutions."

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers told reporters the party abandoned its hard line against the budget because of the COVID-19 crisis.

"Today is a day for all of us to come together to ensure the health and safety of our citizens," he said.
People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin called it "a historic moment."

The vote on the carbon tax had to happen before April 1. Without it passing, the higher federal carbon tax would have remained in effect in New Brunswick.

The legislature promptly adjourned so that Higgs could take part in a conference call with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the other Canadian premiers.

PC house leader Glen Savoie said the house will return Tuesday as planned but added the weekend would give officials the chance to sort out what has to happen next.

That, and the rushed carbon-tax vote, suggests the house may not sit beyond Tuesday.

Coon's decision pivotal

The budget vote became a foregone conclusion Friday morning when Coon said he would not vote against it.

Coon said there are elements of the budget that represent "progress," and he wanted to see them passed so that his party can use its newfound leverage in the legislature to improve them and push for more.

"This is a minority government where my colleagues and I in the Green caucus hold the balance of responsibility," he said. "We don't need to trust this government to safeguard the public good. Not a single piece of legislation can pass without our support."



Coon says there are elements in the PC budget that have potential and he hopes they can be improved upon. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

"I know many have lost trust in Premier Higgs, and many lack confidence in [Liberal leader] Kevin Vickers. … I ask that you trust me. We have your back, New Brunswick."

Shortly after his announcement, Coon and the other three party leaders in the legislature huddled to discuss accelerating the budget vote. Negotiations dragged on from around noon to just after 2 p.m.
One item of business that might need to come before MLAs on Tuesday is legislation to postpone municipal elections scheduled for May 11.

Chief electoral officer Kim Poffenroth issued a statement Friday saying that given the elections will require hundreds of thousands of people to vote in polling stations staffed by thousands of election workers, "there are obvious concerns over public safety."

She said there is no "easy solution" to reduce the risk of infection but that under the Local

Governance Act she doesn't have the power to postpone the vote without the legislature passing amendments.

About the Author

Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 

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David Amos 
Methinks it all over but the crying now and Higgy's circus will go on for another year. I have no doubt that the EUB will say OK to "Not So Smart" Meters in short order and allow NB Power will get to spend another 100 million loonies we cannot afford N'esy Pas? 















David Amos
Methinks the most telling thing to me about the vote was that Bobby Baby Gauvin was not man enough to keep his word and vote against his old buddy Higgy N'esy Pas?

Joe Campbell

Reply to @David Amos: Methinks that I am glad you are not voting on the budget. Seriously man, voting against it would have been provincial suicide!

David Amos

Reply to @Joe Campbell: Dream on

Joe Campbell 

Reply to @David Amos: Oh right, province is already on the suicide train!

Matt Steele
It looks like the Green Party has been looking at possible election dates if they force an early election , and have realised that an early election could happen in June when the University students are away . Two of the Green Party MLAs owe their being elected to University students in both Fredericton and Sackville ; so if an election happened to fall during the summer University break , then say goodbye to at least TWO of the Green MLAs . Of course , the Green Party is trying to portray their decision as if they are concerned over the public , when they are actually concerned over keeping their high paying jobs , and banking time for their gold plated pension . Lots of SPIN going on there for sure .


DJ Redfern

Reply to @Matt Steele:
Once again Mr. Steele you have stated this very well, certainly mirrors "my take" on the Greens.....

David Amos

Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks everybody knows the Greens will never win in Kent County again N'esy Pas?

Kelly Alder

Reply to @Matt Steele: Bang In Mittons riding. She made sure (along with her environmental warriors) to make sure to grab well into the 90% rate of the mta student vote. And the fact no one actually verified wether or not the student was even living in the riding long enough to be eligible didn’t help either.

Pierre LaRoches
Mr Coon just saved Vickers a butt kicking. Plus we all know the Greens have no money for an election right now.


David Amos 

Reply to @Pierre LaRoches: Methinks many folks would agree that all the Party Leaders just saved the seats for their butts to park in as they ride on the Gravy Train for another year N'esy Pas?

Matthew Smith

Reply to @David Amos: telling as well, N'esy Pas, that you keep trying to join that self same gravy train? Methinks you'll have the same results everytime

Paul Burgoin

Reply to @Pierre LaRoches: If the Greens are needed to topple ,well money in politics has a mysterious way of appearing in coffers at the right time when needed!

David Amos

Reply to @Matthew Smith: Why is it that I feel honoured that you hate me?

Josef Blow

Reply to @David Amos: Dave, you deserve empathy instead of hate. Poor boy.

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others

Methinks folks should ask the other members of the Board of Directors of VESTCOR if they agree with Larry Jamieson and Vicky Deschenes N'esy Pas? 



https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/03/public-pensions-take-hit-from-covid-19.html



#nbpoli#cdnpoli




https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/public-pensions-take-hit-1.5500871

Public pensions take a hit from COVID-19 concerns

Plans have likely lost more than $1 billion in stock markets over the last four weeks

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Mar 18, 2020 7:00 AM AT




"Falling stock markets will negatively affect pension plans in the short-term," said the finance department's Vicky Deschenes in a statement Tuesday. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)

Estimates are difficult to obtain, but New Brunswick public sector pension plans have likely lost more than $1 billion in the stock markets over the last four weeks.

It's the first major test for shared risk pension plans since they became ineligible for provincial government bailouts.

New Brunswick finance department officials are hopeful recent losses will not become an issue and other plan investments outside of stock markets will help offset the current decline.

"Falling stock markets will negatively affect pension plans in the short-term," said the finance department's Vicky Deschenes in a statement Tuesday.

"The diversified nature of the plans' investments will moderate the impact. Government continues to monitor markets."

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Multiple New Brunswick public pension plans serving tens of thousands of retirees and current employees had close to $17 billion under management at the end of 2019.

About $6 billion (35 per cent) of those holdings are invested in stock market equities and indexes and have been caught up in the crushing financial turmoil unleashed by the COVID-19 virus.

Beginning in late February, the Standard & Poors / Toronto Stock Exchange Composite Index fell 5,259 points up to the close of trading Tuesday - a stunning 29.3 per cent in 26 days. Other stock indexes worldwide have dropped similar amounts, with losses steep and widespread.

It's the worst decline to hit markets since the New Brunswick government switched to so–called "shared risk" pension plans, beginning in 2013, and removed itself as a financial guarantor of pension plan benefits.

Short-term issue?

Larry Jamieson is executive director of the New Brunswick Teachers Association and also chair of the New Brunswick Teachers' Pension Plan.  He does not have figures on how the last month has affected plan investments but believes it is a short term issue that will resolve itself in time.

"I'm sure there's nervousness out there," said Jamieson.

"As far as the teacher's pension plan goes, the investment plan is very well diversified  It's designed to weather these kinds of downturn in the market.  I'm sure the market will rebound and the plan will move forward."
 
The teacher's plan is the second largest in the province.

The fund serves 19,167 members, including retired and current educators, and at the end of June 2019 had $6.1 billion of their pension money placed in a wide range of investments.

About $2.4 billion (40 per cent) was in higher risk, publicly–traded equities

The largest pension plan, covering 39,000 current and former civil servants, NB Power employees and others is the Public Service Pension Plan.   It had $8.1 billion invested as of June 30, 2019, with $2.9 billion exposed to stock markets.

An overall 25 per cent decline in stock market equities and indexes would cost those two plans alone about  $1.3 billion.

Both the teachers and public service plans were fully funded at the end of 2019 with hundreds of millions of dollars extra in reserve to meet long term obligations and do have a cushion to absorb losses.  The teachers' plan alone gained $2 billion in its first five years of operation under the shared risk model and Jamieson said markets would have to get much worse for benefits to members to be affected.

"The plans have done well since reform," said Jamieson.

"I can't give you dollar numbers, but we would have to have a long term significant - much more significant than what we're seeing - downturn in the market to impact any of those benefits."

Other New Brunswick pension plans with money exposed to the recent stock market decline include hospital workers, school bus drivers, judges, school district managers and MLAs.

About the Author

Robert Jones

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 

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David Amos
Methinks Mr Jones, the CEO and the board of of VESTCOR and nearly everybody else playing their part in the political circus know that there are 3 people in particular from Fundy Royal who were made well aware of my concerns about the the investment industry since 2004 when I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament and that I can easily prove it N'esy Pas?

Go Figure Who They Are

"On the eve of his pending retirement from the Senate, Senator Day tweeted, "On the eve of my retirement from the @SenateCA, I would like to share my farewell remarks. It has been an honour to serve my fellow New Brunswickers and all Canadians. Watch my speech here: [...] #SenCA #cdnpoli #nbpoli."[2] He retired from the Senate on January 24, 2020, upon reaching the mandatory retirement age of 75."

"Day's wife, Georgie Day, was elected to the legislature, on her first attempt in electoral politics, in 1991, and was re-elected in 1995. While in the legislature, she served in the cabinets of Premiers Frank McKenna, Ray Frenette, and Camille Thériault."











David Amos
Methins Mr Jones should read the news today then Google two names Leo Kolivakis John Sinclair and expand upon this story N'esy Pas?









David Amos
Methinks folks should ask the other members of the Board of Directors of VESTCOR if they agree with Larry Jamieson and Vicky Deschenes N'esy Pas? 


David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure

TSX loses another 8% as Canadian oil price falls to lowest level on record

Canadian dollar dips below 70 cents US
Pete Evans · CBC News · Posted: Mar 18, 2020 9:41 AM ET | Last Updated: an hour ago
















David Amos
Methinks my critic Quebec in Leo Kolivakis may enjoy a little Deja Vu N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pensions-managers-benchmark-bonuses-1.4632463


David Amos 

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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks snobby beancounters wish to claim that I am uninformed N'esy Pas?

"Also worth mentioning that while this compensation may raise some eyebrows and critical comments from uninformed New Brunswickers like David Raymond Amos, the folks at Vestcor are not paid anywhere near as much at their peers in the rest of Canada.

So let's dispense with the CBC/ communist crap on compensation at large pensions, these investment managers are delivering on their long-term targets and their compensation structure is clearly explained in the annual report.

If people are getting big bonuses it's because they're delivering long-term results, and that's a good thing, especially in New Brunswick where public pensions were a total mess prior to the establishment of Vestcor.

Below, the Board of Trustees for the New Brunswick Public Service Pension Plan held the 2018 Annual General Meeting on September 6, 2018 in Bathurst, NB. Fast-forward to minute 47 to hear Vestcor's CEO John Sinclair's comments, he covers a lot of key points worth listening to."

http://pensionpulse.blogspot.com/2019/06/vestcor-gains-196-in-2018.html  


David Amos

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Reply to @David Amos: These are the words of Leo Kolivakis last year

http://pensionpulse.blogspot.com/2019/06/vestcor-gains-196-in-2018.html

"Also worth mentioning that while this compensation may raise some eyebrows and critical comments from uninformed New Brunswickers like David Raymond Amos, the folks at Vestcor are not paid anywhere near as much at their peers in the rest of Canada.

So let's dispense with the CBC/ communist crap on compensation at large pensions, these investment managers are delivering on their long-term targets and their compensation structure is clearly explained in the annual report.

If people are getting big bonuses it's because they're delivering long-term results, and that's a good thing, especially in New Brunswick where public pensions were a total mess prior to the establishment of Vestcor.

Below, the Board of Trustees for the New Brunswick Public Service Pension Plan held the 2018 Annual General Meeting on September 6, 2018 in Bathurst, NB. Fast-forward to minute 47 to hear Vestcor's CEO John Sinclair's comments, he covers a lot of key points worth listening to."


David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: Methinks I struck another nerve N'esy Pas?

Michael durant
We must bail out the pension plans. We have no other ethical option.

Gary Melanson

Reply to @Michael durant: Why? Why would the taxpayers without pension plans who have lost a lot of their investments agree to bail out public sector retirees?

David Amos

Reply to @Michael durant: Surely you jest

Paul Bourgoin
These are hard and insecure times for those who have Pension Plans, some believe I'm sure the market will rebound and the plan will move forward while others have $2.4 billion in higher risk, publicly–traded equities, a gamble Being a Retiree I see those long nights getting slower and sleep very little. Going to the buy food is considered dangerous and fear the consequences and impact of from COVID-19, for us seniors this could be deadly so our Family prays! May God Bless and Protect you.!


David Amos 

Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Cry me a river At least you have a medicare card and I dont. As just another senior I am in the boat as you and I am not whining or losing any sleep. Furthermore as an ex Fed I bet your pension is far better than mine because I have none other than usual old age and cpp stipend that a lot of us must get by on.

michael levesque
dont worry folks the people who do not get these pensions will simply have too make up the difference.

Samual Johnston

Reply to @michael levesque: that use to be the case. We were tossing in over 300 mill a year to top them up. But now does that apply? Shared risk? Anyone have a quicki explication. Is the taxpayer gonna be covering their loss?

David Amos 

Reply to @Samual Johnston: Nope

Gary Melanson
Reply to @Samual Johnston: Still have to top up the federal government pension plan

























Stephen MacNeil
If people didn’t eat Garbage food like Lobster we wouldn't get these viruses.

Lou Bell

Reply to @Stephen MacNeil: Huh ????

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks its time for your nap N'esy Pas?

James Vander

Reply to @Stephen MacNeil: You are actually correct. When we eat the scavengers that purify the ocean and our environment, such as lobster, crab, shrimp, bi-valve shellfish et al, we're asking for trouble. They were never meant to be consumed. And many animals that should not be consumed also cause problems for humans. Yup, I'm guilty too....

Samual Johnston

Reply to @James Vander: agreed on what they eat but why do you say they were never meant to be consumed?

James Vander 

Reply to @Samual Johnston: Because their primary purpose is to dispose of the "bad stuff" within the food chain naturally, the refuse,- kinda like a built in garbage disposal system that filters and purifies the environment. And we shouldn't eat species that eat garbage. However, I do like a good plate of fried clams! 
 

Ben Haroldson
Reply to @James Vander: You mean indigenous people didn't eat shellfish and crustaceans before we even landed on these hallowed shores ? What are all the clam shell dumps eroding out of the shoreline about?

Ben Haroldson

Reply to @James Vander: Clam digger has the best...would have been open soon, but we'll have to see now.

Samual Johnston

Reply to @James Vander: I dunno. They eat and process it to grow. We don’t eat stomach contents. A dead cow is garbage as well but we eat it. Bear eat dead animals etc they find and we eat them etc etc.... 

 

David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Good Point You dudes have a lot to argue as the stock markets tumble and everything shuts down before your eyes. However one must find some fun in the madness that surround us or we will go crazy as well. So here is my two bit worth for your little circus.

Everybody knows some indigenous people in various parts of the world practiced cannibalism not all that long ago and they definitely seemed to be insane.On the otherhand I have heard it said that sometimes Dog Soldiers would have to feed their dogs to other dogs then eat those dogs in order to survive long enough to continue a war with our ancestors invading their native land. That seems to make sense to me. In some foreign countries folks continue to eat dogs to this very day and lord knows what else you could not pay me to eat. Yet I dare not judge anyone because modern members of Trudeau The Younger's beloved peoplekind got the bright idea to feed cows to themselves. Hence the rise of mad cow disease. With things going crazy today I am considering the possibility of what the "Powers That Be" are consuming that causes them to act so loonie. In conclusion methinks nobody can deny that its a mad world in the dog eat dog world of today N'esy Pas?



David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: BINGO


























brian finch
and kenney wants to separate and take control of the pension funds to invest in oil and gas...good luck

Lou Bell

Reply to @brian finch: Kenney ? What's Kenney got to do with NB Pensions ? I think you're commentin on the wrong Province.

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your buddy Troy Mann the former Chief Executive Officer VESTCOR split for Alberta after our spit and chew a couple of years ago N'esy Pas?

June Arnott
And what about the rest of us who invest in rrsps for our retirement eh? Hope no one gets a bailout or I will riot !


Matt Steele 

Reply to @June Arnott: ....They will get a bailout for sure . No doubt former Liberal Premier Frank McKenna is already sitting down with his political buddies , and trying to figure out how they can get some of that 27 BILLION bailout cash for themselves . When former politicians see BILLIONS of taxpayer cash being doled out ; they are ALWAYS first in line .

Lou Bell

Reply to @June Arnott: If you've invested reasonably in your investments and have planned responsibly there shouldn't be a problem . If you haven't planned for downturns like this , well I guess that's on you.

David Amos

Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks many Yankees will be rioting before you do N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks you should check my work in Federal Court N'esy Pas?

June Arnott 

Reply to @Lou Bell: ah so help out the government workers and forget the rest. Nice attitude

David Amos

Reply to @June Arnott: Methinks most bureaucrats in Fat Fred City are sitting home right now collecting full pay while the rest of the folks are scrambling trying to keep their jobs and buy toilet paper etc N'esy Pas?

Terry Tibbs 

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Reply to @David Amos:
That's just plain harsh. I'm sure there are some who are not devoted to decorating their homes with toilet paper...............

Paul Bourgoin 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Frank knows how to open Those Golden Doors so generous!!!

David Amos

Content disabled
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you forgot to ask me if I cared about your criticisms of my concerns about toilet paper while you ignore everything else N'esy Pas? 
 

Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
Take offence where you will, but there is not only a shortage of toilet paper, I see chicken soup is in short supply, along with soda crackers..........
I have absolutely no idea why, though I did kinda grow up with Monty Python, so understanding silly is within my grasp.
Silly can be a good thing, but not usually a good thing if it describes our elected officials.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @David Amos:

*POOF*

David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Go Figure what else I wrote went "Poof"























Alex Leblanc
This is a great time for them to buy - i'm hoping they keep buying and hold the stocks they have.


David Amos 

Reply to @Alex Leblanc: Methinks many would agree that the markets have not hit the bottom yet N'esy Pas?

Lou Bell
These plans , unlike those of some people who self invest and have bragged of their returns and are now being hit mercilessly , would have a cushion built in with low risk bonds and high interest accounts where they are impacted very little or even not at all by this. Remember , both funds have money going in bi weekly and most likely have more going in than coming out.

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Lou Bell:
Ha, Ha, fooled you. Mr Trudeau is busy buying our recovery with the value of the $CDN. Combine that with a massive shrinkage of GDP, and that $10 you invested will still be $10, but won't likely buy you a dollar's worth.
Have a nice day.

David Amos 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Speaking of harsh at least Lou can use it for toilet paper if need be. Methinks your gold won't do that job N'esy Pas? 

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @David Amos:
My gold is up 20% since January, I'm expecting it to go higher.

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you forgot that whereas the Russians and Chinese have been buying gold by the ton for years I suggested that folks buy silver and vanilla N'esy Pas??

 

Tom Simmons
It's all fake economy....did the people actually think they were gonna get free money down the road? The banksters and politicians will grabble it all up.


David Amos 

Reply to @Tom Simmons: Methinks that par for the course N'esy Pas? 

 

David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise


Terry Tibbs 

Reply to @David Amos:
No surprise.......... I mentioned this before the provincial budget.
I can't "see" certain folks putting up with empty pension promises, so I would fully expect a government bail-out, maybe our carbon tax money?
Though the markets are coming back, and there are big federal bucks in the wind, so it's hard to tell where the reverse Robin Hood (Mr Higgs) may strike.

Lou Bell 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Any smart person would have their money invested through a reputable investor who has taken circumstances like this into account ! This is the way pensions for Government employees are handled. Part of the investments are in low risk where any monies paid out are from these with little impact. The people who really take the hit are the greedy who go after the low bearing fruit and put all their money in high risk investments . They are the ones you will never hear from in times like this , only in the good times .

David Amos 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks you should review my words in recent months in these forums and particularly what I said about VESTCOR on Rogers TV when I ran against Higgy et al in 2018 N'esy Pas?

David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Yea Right

Terry Tibbs 

Reply to @Lou Bell:
Hey Lou, I am in "low risk" for some of my investments, and since Jan 1st am down 25%...................
My gold, however, is up 20%, but gold is a double gamble, gold itself and the $CDN, as gold is bought and sold in $US.

Lou Bell 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: If you're in low risk , as you say , you're being duped ! Low risk is bonds and high interest accounts ! You obviously don't understand a thing about investing if you're down 25 % , unless you've VERY LITTLE in low risk ! Really shouldn't be that hard to comprehend !

Lou Bell 

Reply to @David Amos: Yeah, right ! Nothing to say ? They're a private Corporation and have done very well . Which part don't you understand / agree with ? Please tell !! And don't make it all about yourself !

Terry Tibbs 

Reply to @Lou Bell:
Sure Lou................. (even bank stocks are down)
On that other matter, would you have the Irvings pay more for oil located in Canada to Americans and the Chinese, than where they are sourcing it?
*Think* carefully Lou, is the principal worth $20 a fill-up?

David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks it too bad so sad that you don't know how to find the words of mine that go "Poof" N'esy Pas?

http://pensionpulse.blogspot.com/2019/06/vestcor-gains-196-in-2018.html

Pension Pulse

Daily Insights on Pensions and Financial Markets

Vestcor Gains 1.96% in 2018

By Leo Kolivakis June 25, 2019

New Brunswick's Vestcor recently reported a 2.08% gross, 1.96% net return for 2018:

Vestcor Inc. (Vestcor) has released its 2018 Annual Report, which reflects the successful amalgamation on January 1, 2018 of its predecessor companies, Vestcor Investment Management Corporation (VIMC) and Vestcor Pension Services Corporation (VPSC). Vestcor operates as a private, not-for-profit company offering global investment management and pension and benefit administration services to public sector entities.

“Despite difficult market conditions, especially during the last quarter of 2018, we are proud to announce that Vestcor has been able to achieve positive investment performance for our clients” said John A. Sinclair, President and Chief Executive Officer. “Our clients frequently cite capital preservation as a key objective for their investment strategies. Despite a negative market environment for risk assets in 2018, we are pleased to have delivered on that objective during the year.”

The Annual Report also outlines that Vestcor successfully exceeded the key performance targets of their administrative clients during the year despite an overall 13% increase in pension and benefit applications.

“We are also proud to have continued to offer management and administration services that are very cost effective versus other public sector peers” declared Mr. Sinclair.

Further investment disclosure reports a 2.08 percent overall gross investment return for total assets under active management for the year ended December 31, 2018, with a management expense ratio of approximately 0.12 percent. “Our not-for-profit business model continues to provide low cost, efficient investment and administration services for our clients” said Sinclair. Pension Funds under active management specifically achieved an overall 2018 return of 2.07 percent which exceeded blended client portfolio benchmarks, before investment management costs, by approximately 1.15 percent during the year.

The long-term annualized Pension Fund returns, since Vestcor began its investment management business (originally known as N.B. Investment Management Corporation prior to its privatization in 2016) in 1996, continue to exceed both client return and risk management funding requirements at 7.09 percent.

About Vestcor

Located in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Vestcor provides global investment management services to nine different public sector client groups representing approximately $16.9 billion in assets under management, and administration services to 11 public sector pension plans and 4 employee benefit plans.

The Vestcor Group of Companies was created through Province of New Brunswick legislation in July 2016 (the Vestcor Act). As of October 1, 2016, N.B. Investment Management Corporation was continued as VIMC, while the operations of the Pension and Employees Benefits Division of the Province of New Brunswick’s Department of Human Resources were transferred to VPSC. On January 1, 2018 VIMC and VPSC were amalgamated to form Vestcor Inc.

Vestcor’s team of more than 140 New Brunswick-based service professionals provides innovative, integrated, cost-effective investment management and pension and benefit administration services solutions to a number of public sector entities that meet the requirements of approximately 96,000 individual members and 134 employer groups.

Take the time to read Vestcor's 2018 Annual Report, it is very well written and not too long.

Late this afternoon, I had a chance to talk to Jon Spinney, Vestcor's CIO. I thank him and John Sinclair, Vestcor's CEO, for taking the time to answer my emails and questions.

John Sinclair emphasized the key thing for Vestcor's clients: “Capital preservation is a key goal for our clients, and we were happy to deliver positive returns for 2018 in a challenging market environment, particularly the 4th quarter when volatility increased significantly.”

Jon Spinney shared this with me by email prior to our conversation:

“Overall, 2018 was a good year for us in the context of a volatile 4th quarter. Our clients, partially due to Shared Risk regulations in the province, run fairly low risk levels in their asset portfolios (on average similar in total risk levels to a 35-40% equity/60-65% bonds public market portfolio). As such, we’ve looked for opportunities to de-risk the asset portfolio in a prudent manner wherever possible while maintaining return generating opportunities. Consequently, we expect to lag somewhat during stronger periods but should perform well when markets are more challenging.

Our stakeholders understand that strategy and are willing to make that trade-off. With the RBC DB median return at about -0.65% in 2018 compared to our total fund composite return of 2.08%, that strategy worked to produce a somewhat smoother return profile for clients both recently and over the longer term.

In terms of active management, after considering all investment management costs, we outperformed our benchmark by just over 1% for the calendar year. While Vestcor’s reliance on Private Markets has historically been somewhat less than many of our peers (our strategy has relied heavily on internal active management, with approximately 85% of assets managed in house), these strategies were significant contributors to value-add during the most recent year and have a strong long-term track record. “

Jon expanded on these points during our call. He told Vescor underperformed the RBC DB median return in 2017 but over a two-year and longer horizon, it is outperforming this index with 20-30% less volatility.

Interestingly, while Private Markets were significant contributors to value-add in 2018, Jon told me they're not as heavily weighted as their peers in privates and run most of their absolute return strategies internally:



As shown above, there is $1.3 billion invested in public market Absolute Return Strategies (run internally), $666 million in Private Equity, and $1 billion each in Real Estate and Infrastructure.

So, he's right, Vestcor is not as heavily weighted in private markets as its peers and Jon explained this to me: "We have many clients. Some are more mature and need liquidity, but even they have a minimum of 5% in private equity, real estate and infrastructure. Others typically have 12-15% in real estate, 10-12% in private equity and 10% in infrastructure."

The Absolute Return Strategies in public markets are beta neutral strategies which typically underperform in a raging bull market but outperform when markets get hit.

It's important to read this passage from pages 19-20 of the Annual Report:

Our Absolute Return portfolio seeks to produce stable, positive returns in all market environments while resulting in little to no correlation with traditional investment strategies, thus providing attractive returns and enhanced diversification for the combined portfolio. To achieve this, we manage separate internal strategies that provide exposure to event-driven, fundamental, and quantitative investment approaches, in varying amounts. Meaningful allocations to these portfolios combined with a well-developed risk management and capital allocation framework allow the strategy to achieve the goal of positive, low risk returns without taking on unintended risk exposures as can often be the case in multi-strategy absolute return portfolios. While each strategy is managed in a diversified and prudent manner by a portfolio management team, we additionally employ a combined portfolio risk budgeting approach to ensure risk is efficiently managed and budgeted through all market environments by shifting capital and risk allocations to their most favorable locations where necessary.

In 2018, the benefit of a diversified investment approach is apparent. While each of the sub-strategies provided positive total returns, only two of the three sub-strategies provided returns in excess of the benchmark. The combined portfolios provided a positive total return of 2.36%, delivering stable performance in a volatile, risk adverse environment. Vestcor uses a proactive risk management approach for these strategies, meaning that these positive returns were achieved with extremely low volatility and near zero correlation to traditional investment categories. On a four-year basis, the strategy has managed to navigate challenging investment environments to produce a positive 4.00% annualized return while maintaining net zero exposure to broad equity markets.

The private equity portfolio is diversified across several factors including geographies, industry sectors and currencies, and investments are made through a combination of commitments to external funds, co-investments alongside fund managers and direct internally managed investments. In 2018, this portfolio produced very strong returns, outperforming comparable public market strategy benchmarks by 27%. A record amount of distributions were received by the private equity program during 2018 as a healthy exit environment prevailed. Over the longer-term four year period, private equity returned 19.11%, outperforming the blended benchmark by greater than 11% per year.

The Real Estate portfolio has two broad components: North American Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) securities, and private real estate in the form of limited partnership interests, direct co-investments and direct holdings. Canada represents the largest component of the private portfolio however we continue to seek high quality opportunities abroad. The private portfolio continued to achieve strong returns in 2018 as a result of good fundamentals in supply and demand and continued low capitalization rates.

The Infrastructure portfolio has two broad components: first, private infrastructure in the form of co-investments diversified by geography, currency and by asset type and also fund commitments to limited partnerships. Second, an internal public infrastructure portfolio that is designed to provide similar long-term return and risk characteristics as private infrastructure investments. Both portfolios produced positive returns in 2018, with particularly strong private portfolio returns stemming from a combination of solid growth in earnings and continued low market discount rates.

Lastly, in terms of compensation, the CBC made a big stink that N.B. pension management employees score record $5M in bonuses, but I wonder if anyone bothered reading the annual report.

In particular, there's a detailed discussion on compensation beginning on page 32, and the senior managers at Vestcor delivered on their long-term targets so they are entitled to their compensation:



Also worth mentioning that while this compensation may raise some eyebrows and critical comments from uninformed New Brunswickers like David Raymond Amos, the folks at Vestcor are not paid anywhere near as much at their peers in the rest of Canada.

So let's dispense with the CBC/ communist crap on compensation at large pensions, these investment managers are delivering on their long-term targets and their compensation structure is clearly explained in the annual report.

If people are getting big bonuses it's because they're delivering long-term results, and that's a good thing, especially in New Brunswick where public pensions were a total mess prior to the establishment of Vestcor.

Below, the Board of Trustees for the New Brunswick Public Service Pension Plan held the 2018
Annual General Meeting on September 6, 2018 in Bathurst, NB. Fast-forward to minute 47 to hear Vestcor's CEO John Sinclair's comments, he covers a lot of key points worth listening to.

 https://vestcor.org/en/nbpspp-agm/


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Recording of the New Brunswick Public Service Pension Plan's Annual Information Meeting on September 25, 2019 in Fredericton, NB

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Methinks the reason the VERY GREEDY VESTCOR dudes don't call or write is because Blaine Higgs and their LIEbrano/lawyer/Bankster buddy Franky Boy McKenna don't love me Nesy Pas?


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N.B. pension management employees score record $5M in bonuses

Province's investments saw 2% gain last year, despite significant declines in global stock markets

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Jun 17, 2019 6:10 PM AT

Vestcor president John Sinclair earned $1.39 million in 2018, documents show. (You Tube/Vestcor)

The organization handling New Brunswick government pension and other funds awarded its employees a record $5 million in bonuses last year, including $902,438 to its president after the province's investments managed to post a two per cent gain, despite significant declines in global stock markets.

Vestcor is the Fredericton-based investment firm set up by the province to manage what has become $16.9 billion in funds, including retirement savings for provincial civil servants, teachers and most hospital workers.

Vestcor also invests pension money for the University of New Brunswick and the City of Fredericton and handles hundreds of millions of dollars set aside by NB Power to deal with the eventual decommissioning of the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station and its stockpile of nuclear waste.

According to its latest annual report, Vestcor posted a 2.08 per cent gain on investments in 2018 — less than the rate of inflation — but significantly better than pension plans across the country, many of which bled money during the year thanks to turbulent stock prices.

• Province's pension managers get big bonuses for below average results

• Exaggerated success: Province's pension managers profit from 'joke' target, analysts say

In a letter attached to the annual report, Vestcor's chairman Michael Walton said it was "gratifying" that the organization was able to post gains in what he called "the generally negative financial market environment" of 2018.

In February, the Royal Bank's Investor and Treasury Services division reported that Canadian defined benefit pension plans overall lost 0.7 per cent of their value in 2018, placing Vestcor's result in the top tier of performances nationwide.

That helped fuel another boost in employee performance bonuses, which have grown significantly at Vestcor in recent years.

Vestcor's long-time president John Sinclair saw his pay package in 2018 hit a new high of $1.39 million, a 9.5 per cent increase over 2017.

Bonuses exceed salary by 200%

Sinclair's base salary is $351,389 and, although Vestcor guidelines show the upper target for executive bonuses allows for another 130 per cent on top of that, Sinclair's bonus was once again well above that upper range.

He earned $902,438 in bonuses in 2018 — what Vestcor calls "incentive pay"—  just under 257 per cent of his base salary.

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N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Higgs steps up plea for caution as 3 new cases are reported

Pharmacists ordered to provide patients with medication for no more than 30 days at a time

Elizabeth Fraser, Sarah Morin· CBC News· Posted: Mar 18, 2020 12:29 PM AT



Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said people are still gathering in large numbers, despite the government's advice to stay home to prevent the spread of COVID-19. (Photo: CBC News)


Three new presumptive cases of COVID-19 have been diagnosed in the past 24 hours, bringing the province's total to 11 confirmed or presumptive cases, the chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell announced on Wednesday.

She said some New Brunswickers are not following the government's advice to stay home to help prevent the spread of the "serious health threat" and she expects there will be "many" cases in the next few days.

"New Brunswick is not immune to the spread of the virus," Russell said.

Premier Blaine Higgs again emphasized the need for people to practise social distancing and said mandatory measures could soon follow.

• 2 doctors recruited to N.B. may be stymied by COVID-19 travel restrictions

"We aren't there yet, but as a province and as a country we will do what is necessary to keep residents safe," he told reporters during the daily update in Fredericton.




Chief Medical Officer of Health Jennifer Russell announced 3 more COVID-19 cases in New Brunswick. 1:49


Higgs advised against playdates, joyriding in vehicles filled with people, sleepovers, and getting together with friends to watch movies.

"This is not a drill. This is reality like we've never seen before."

The latest cases include:

• A woman in her 60s in the southeast, who had been on a cruise.
• A man in his 60s in central New Brunswick, who had been in contact with an individual who had direct contact with a traveller.
• A woman in her 60s in central New Brunswick, who had travelled to the United Kingdom.

Russell, too, reiterated the importance of people staying home and keeping a social distance of six feet, or about two metres, from others.

"Th​is is not the time for house parties," said.

• Here is a list of cancellations across the province due to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Here is a roundup of other developments Wednesday.

Government won't answer questions

The province has scaled back on how much it wants to share with the public about its response to the coronavirus and related problems.

Information about COVID-19 is delivered at a short daily health briefing by Dr. Jennifer Russell and Premier Blaine Higgs.

• Concerns raised over Saint John COVID-19 testing centre relocation

But on Wednesday, reporters were allowed to ask only one question each and were not allowed to follow up, even when the answers were confusing or incomplete.

Bruce Macfarlane, the spokesperson for the Health Department, brought the briefing to an end without explanation.

Nursing resources added to 811 line

New Brunswickers are still complaining about the long waits on the Tele-811 line.

After Wednesday's news conference, Health spokesperson Bruce Macfarlane said in an emailed statement, that additional nurses are being added to the Tele-811 line starting on Thursday.

"We expect to add more resources over the next few days," he said in an email.

• Patients can now have virtual appointments with their family doctor

The provincial government is following Public Health's advice to allow patients to book virtual appointments with their family doctor to curb the spread of COVID-19.

On Wednesday, Russell encouraged patients who don't have family doctors but need prescription renewals or help unrelated to the coronavirus to call 811. Normally these patients would try to go to clinics.

It wasn't clear from Russell's answer how the 811 service would get people help from doctors but she did say the province was working on the issue with the New Brunswick Medical Society.

Stockpiling could create drug shortages

Pharmacists in the province have been ordered to provide patients with medication for no more than 30 days at a time, the New Brunswick College of Pharmacists says.

The college warned that requesting early refills or stockpiling medication could create drug shortages and put others at risk.



Pharmacists in New Brunswick can prescribe medication for no more than 30 days. (Craig Chivers/CBC News)


"While there are currently no early warning signs of a global drug shortage, pharmacists are looking toward the long-term needs of New Brunswickers and want to ensure that medications are dispensed responsibly during this uncertain time,"  the College said in a news release.

Pharmacies and grocery stores will stay open across the province.

Parents won't be charged for daycare

Premier Blaine Higgs says parents will not be charged while daycares are closed, and essential services workers will continue to pay their regular rates for spaces.

"We are asking daycare operators not to increase their usual rates at this time.

• Small businesses scramble for cash flow in face of COVID-19 closures

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced a massive $82-billion aid package to help Canadians and businesses cope with the global COVID-19 pandemic.

The province is trying to determine how this applies to daycares, Higgs said.

Operators have said they have to charge parents for spaces, even if daycares are closed to most children.

Horizon cancels non-urgent services

Horizon Health Network has started cancelling all non-urgent services at all of its hospitals, including:

•  Therapeutic services.
•  Laboratory services.
• Diagnostic imaging.
• The Stan Cassidy Centre for Rehabilitation.
• Pharmacy.
• Electrodiagnostics and respiratory therapy.

Dentists stop doing non-essential procedures

All non-essential and elective dental procedures are suspended until further notice, the New Brunswick Dental Society has announced.

Emergency procedures will still take place. An emergency procedure includes oral facial trauma, significant infection, prolonged bleeding or pain that can't be managed by over-the-counter medication.

Dental offices are rescheduling appointments with their clients and assessing what's an emergency and what's non-essential.

Help for homeless shelters

The Department of Social Development has put contingency plans in place, should a homeless shelter client develop symptoms.

A client with symptoms would be taken form the shelter and put in an alternative place. Then other clients would be tested.

Many homeless shelters are operating at or near capacity.

Reducing transit hours

Starting Wednesday, Fredericton Transit has switched to operating on a Saturday schedule, where buses will run every hour.

Codiac Transpo services in Moncton will be modified starting Friday.

From Monday to Saturday, all transit services will end at  6:30 pm. Sunday will remain unchanged.
Starting Thursday, Saint John Transit will suspend all fare collection on all of its services.

Passengers will be asked to use the rear doors for boarding and exiting. For those with disabilities, the front door will continue to be used.

Saint John Transit continues to operate on its regular schedule. It's cleaning buses daily and has increased the cleaning of frequently touched surfaces.

You can still give blood

The Canadian Blood Services has recorded an increase in appointment cancellations related to the COVID-19 pandemic.

"Individual and group cancellations can have a dramatic impact on patients in Canada who continue to need blood products to treat cancers, trauma, and many surgeries," said Delphine Denis, a spokesperson for Canadian Blood Services.

"The increase in blood donation appointment cancellations is worrying, but a benefit of operating a national blood system is our ability to shift products around the country to meet hospital and patient needs."



Premier Blaine Higgs said Wednesday mandatory measures for people to stay home could soon follow. 1:50


The organization is adhering to the guidance of experts, federal and provincial governments. And that protocols for screening donors and cleaning sites "have always been extremely robust — respiratory infections are common and we are prepared."

The organization is also taking additional measures to enhance protocols to better protect anyone who comes to donate blood.

"To ensure we can continue to meet the needs of Canadian patients, we need everyone who is eligible and healthy to continue to book and honour their appointments to donate blood."

Protect your mental health

Chief medical health officer Jennifer Russell said it's important people look after themselves, both physically and mentally.

This includes healthy eating, exercise, proper sleep and doing different hobbies.

"Right now your mental health is just as important as your physical health," she said.

What to do about grocery shopping 

If you're going out to the drugstore or to a grocery store, do it when stores aren't usually busy. The province advises you  to keep that two-metre distance and wash your hands once you return home.
Russell said some people are even wiping down the products they purchase once they return home.

Meals on Wheels continuing to deliver

Meals on Wheels, a volunteer service that delivers meals to vulnerable individuals and families in Fredericton, is still operating.

The organization has ordered minimal contact between clients and volunteers.

Betty Daniels, executive director for Meals on Wheels Fredericton, said packaged meals are being left outside a client's home. Volunteers must knock on the door and stand back to ensure clients receive their meal safely.

• 65 seniors to be moved out of hospitals to make way for COVID-19 patients

The program is looking for more volunteers, as some current volunteers have recently returned from abroad and are self-isolating for 14 days.

Food banks prepare for growing need

The Saint John Community Food Basket, is preparing for a growing need of people who will rely on the local food bank.

The organization is limiting access to one person at a time, said John Buchanan, executive director of the community food bank.

• 'I haven't slept:' N.B. restaurant owners lay off workers during COVID-19 downturn

Individuals using the food bank will enter, check in with a computer operator and receive a bag of food from a volunteer. The Individual will then be asked to leave immediately.

Meanwhile, Greener Village in Fredericton, is temporarily closing its retail store, suspending its Learning Kitchen programming and restricting access to the food bank building.

Food Depot Alimentaire in Moncton, which serves food banks across southeastern New Brunswick, said it is not accepting walk-ins. People must call to book an appointment.

Food Depot Alimentaire also launched a food delivery service for seniors. And it's also providing food delivery services to children who were relying on food programming.

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David Amos
Methinks Higgy is giggling at the fact that I am about to cancel 2 "non-urgent" appointments with the hospital and my doctor about my old ticker because of his orders N'esy Pas?











Greg Smith
The pandemic is the governments fault for decades of whittling our health care system down to nothing. I don’t trust a word that comes from Higgs’ mouth, just weeks ago he was going to close 6 ER’s overnight, and now wants to act like our saviour? All he cares about is pleasing his Irving handlers, and won’t even be transparent enough to take questions. I’d happily risk infecting myself to go to the polls and get rid of this egregiously inept Premier.


David Amos 

Reply to @Greg Smith: Me Too

Lou Bell
Prescription renewal for 30 days only . My prescriptions arte for 90 day renewals ! My previous doctor wrote up my prescriptions for a year at a time , to be filled in 3 month intervals . His replacement insisted they write them up every 3 months ! I believe they get paid a fee for every time a prescription is written ! And more and more Doctors are breaking the million dollar a year barrier ! Wonder why no more !


David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Cry me a river At least you have a Medicare Card as you laugh at the fact that your hero Higgy is keeping a "Stay" on mine

Methinks some folks wonder why you Conservatives truly enjoy the fact that I have to pay for my emergency room bills and doctor fess for no reason I will ever understand N'esy Pas?

James Risdon
Question: How come we haven't heard of any journalists getting the Covid-19 virus?

Journalists are out and about, milling around other people, all day, every day. If anyone could be expected to be at risk, I would think journalists would be right up there among the job occupations most at risk.

Has anyone heard of any Canadian journalist catching this thing?


Suzanne Tucker 

Reply to @James Risdon: That is an excellent question, and I do hope no one!!

David Amos

Reply to @James Risdon: What is your point in making such a dumb question?

SarahRose Werner
Just heard from my MLA, Gerry Lowe, re: doing something to mitigate the higher co-pay fees for participants of the NB Drug Plan and the NB Prescription Drug Program. He says he spoke to Ted Flemming about this today. E-mail your own MLA if want to see this happen. Can't hurt, might help.

Shawn McShane

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Property tax mitigation would go a long way. Those costs are another mortgage, higher than heat, electric and way more higher than drugs.

SarahRose Werner

Reply to @Shawn McShane: My landlord's not going to decrease my rent just because he gets his property tax mitigated. You want yours mitigated, you can contact your own MLA.

David Amos 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Say Hey to your buddy Gerry and his pal Don Darling and all the Saint John cops for me will ya? Methinks none of you in Saint john Harbour voted for me in 2006 N'esy Pas?

David Amos 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks before I sue the Crown again somebody should ask your buddy Gerry why the liberals put a "Stay" on my right to Medicare years ago and why Higgy won't remove it to this very day N'esy Pas?

Greg Miller
That's fine but as a senior I ask do all pharmacies have free delivery. If not it means seniors will have to go out and expose themselves to the environment 3x instead of once. Think about it!

Ray Bungay

Reply to @Greg Miller: A very good point Greg. This Doctor has dropped the ball yet again. Sad really

Terry Tibbs

Reply to @Ray Bungay:
Probably just doing what she is told Ray. You remember what happens "in this place" when the Chief Medical Officer doesn't do what they are told.

Greg Miller 

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Exactly and this is one reason I miss Dr. Cleary -- big time!

David Amos

Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks everybody knows the lady willingly accepted the lucrative position under the "Do As I Am Told" conditions N'esy Pas?

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks everybody knows April Fools Day is coming fast and NB Power's bottom line could embarrass Premier Higgy bigtime N'esy Pas? 


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New Brunswick's two-week old budget already a 'mess' in wake of COVID-19 crisis

Blaine Higgs says economic cost of pandemic is high, but government will pay what's needed to prevent spread

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Mar 20, 2020 9:26 AM AT



Premier Blaine Higgs told CBC's weekly political panel Thursday the cost of fighting the COVID-19 pandemic is wreaking havoc on the province's finances but he will worry about that later. (Stephen MacGillivray/Canadian Press)

Just 10 days after the New Brunswick government delivered what it believed to be a balanced budget, the COVID-19 virus has swung a wrecking ball through most of its underlying financial assumptions.
Premier Blaine Higgs is acknowledging the document is already obsolete.

"We know this is really going to mess up the books," Higgs said during CBC's weekly Political Panel on Thursday about the far-reaching financial effects of the virus.

"We had a budget that had some ability to manage through a crisis, but none of us expected a crisis like this."

Higgs declared a state of emergency in the province on Thursday to combat the spread of COVID-19, ordering an array of businesses that serve the public to close indefinitely. That has constricted wide segments of the New Brunswick economy, put thousands of people out of work and shut down businesses that feed the province critical tax dollars daily.


At a news conference Thursday, Higgs listed the businesses and operations that have been ordered to close immediately. 2:59

That, added to the steep decline in worldwide stock markets, promises to deliver a crushing one-two punch to next year's planned $92-million budget surplus unveiled a week ago Tuesday.

But the economic effects are so immediate and significant it is not beyond possible for the virus, with 11 days left in the current fiscal year, to undo this year's provincial budget surplus as well, projected just last week to be $97.8 million.


Thousands of New Brunswick businesses, like the Saint John Bowlarama, have laid off employees and closed because of the COVID-19 virus. The closures bring down tax revenues to the province. (Robert Jones/CBC)

Higgs said it is a financial calamity he will deal with later when the danger posed to people from the virus has passed.

"We're seeing some projections that, depending how long this goes on, it's going to have a huge impact on not only employment activities but on the finances of the province," said Higgs.

"But that's secondary at this point."

Last week's budget, delivered by Finance Minister Ernie Steeves, was built on an assumption of one per cent growth in the New Brunswick economy this year.

But private forecasters are already casting doubt on that number.

On Wednesday, the TD Bank lowered its estimate of growth in New Brunswick for 2020 to a nearly stagnant 0.1 per cent, joining the Royal Bank, which cut its growth estimate for the province in half to 0.5 per cent.


Finance Minister Ernie Steeves delivered his second budget on March 10 but already its projected surplus is in doubt. (Mike Heenan/CBC)

"Like most of its provincial peers, New Brunswick's economy will take a hit this year as COVID-19 temporarily weighs on its business and consumer spending," said the TD report.

The New Brunswick government has several revenue sources in harm's way. It normally raises $4 million per day from the HST being applied to goods and services sold in the province, but that has already been sagging under the weight of so many business closures.

Corporate and personal income taxes which were budgeted to bring in another $2.3 billion this year are also likely to be suppressed.

The decline in HST revenue is also something attacking this year's budget surplus even though the end of the fiscal year is just 11 days away.

But a larger threat is the sudden collapse in stock market values and the effect that may have on NB Power.

More than half of this year's expected provincial government budget surplus rests on NB Power's projected profit of $49.7 million.

But the utility has significant financial exposure to financial markets — mostly through $766 million in funds it has invested to pay for the future decommissioning of the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station and the management of its spent radioactive fuel. 


NB Power has hundreds of millions of dollars invested with significant exposure to worldwide financial markets and stands to lose substantial amounts if there is not a major rebound before March 31. (Michael Heenan/CBC)

According to its last annual report, nearly one-third of that money, $237 million, is invested in stock market-related equities. Some of those market have lost up to 30 per cent of their value in the last month.

NB Power's Marc Belliveau could not say Thursday if the market slump will be enough to wipe out NB Power's expected profit for the year when its books close on March 31, but barring a significant rally the impact of the markets on the utility and the province will be noticeable.

"It's a completely reasonable question, but the COVIDcrisis is only a few weeks old," said Belliveau in an email.

"We have a team of workers at NB Power that are examining the effect that these unprecedented events may have, but it is too early to determine with any amount of precision what those effects will be."

Higgs said the Finance Department is preparing an update on the province's finances for the all-party cabinet committee that has been steering the province through the current crisis, but he's not concerned with how grim the numbers might be.

"We're not watching day-to-day finances," said Higgs.

"I've committed to [get] through this and what we've collectively committed to — we'll do what is necessary to protect the citizens." 

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David Amos
Methinks Mr Jones should reveal to the folks the contents of the letter the Boss of NB Power sent to the EUB and Higgy like I suggested yesterday/ FYI Thomas is asking the EUB not to allow the request to increase the power rates and to delay the decision on the "Not So Smart" Meters until he confers with Higgy et al N'esy Pas?









David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise

"NB Power has hundreds of millions of dollars invested with significant exposure to worldwide financial markets and stands to lose substantial amounts if there is not a major rebound before March 31"

Lou Bell

Reply to @David Amos: If one understands markets , THEY DO BOUNCE BACK ! This money is not lost ! Unless NB Power is planning on decommissioning Lepreau in the next year , none of the investments are lost . It's the same as if they have a gain on their market invested funds of 20 % ! If they leave it in they could very easily have a drop of 20 % the following year. It's just what happens to long term investments . Did you not know this ????

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks everybody knows April Fools Day is coming fast and NB Power's bottom line could embarrass your hero Higgy bigtime N'esy Pas?

 

Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: NB Powers embarassing bottom line has been around a lot longer than Higgs has ! Or didn't you know that ????


David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you know why your hero Higgy and his minions in NB Power keep having me barred from intervening in the EUB hearings Its because of the deal Alward made with the dudes making the big score off the "Not So Smart " Meters N'esy Pas?

David Peters
Every story about NB Power seems to be a case study in how to not run a regions energy sector.

Decentralization, involving real competition and private investment is the solution, imo.


David Amos 

Reply to @David Peters: Methinks you should surf through the documents within the public records of the EUB Trust that NB Power has an interesting motion in play as of today N'esy Pas? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Michael durant
Good news the Dow only went -4.47%. some people where expecting -9%. So when you think about it the Dow gained +4.53 % using the new economics.


David Amos  

Reply to @Michael durant: Surely you jest

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Andre Legault
Unfortunately the headline and the first sentence demonstrates the shameless editorializing of news articles. The remaining of the article is mostly reporting the facts. Just disregard the former and the evaluate the rest with some critical thinking.


David Amos  

Reply to @Andre Legault: Methinks critical thinking and common sense are rare things to be found in political circuses and the reporting thereof N'esy Pas?

Michael durant
Guess he didn't see Italy a few weeks ago.


David Amos  

Reply to @Michael durant: Methinks the Green Party leader certainly did Hence he supported Higgy so that he could rule the circus this year instead of the PANB N'esy Pas?

Matthew Locke
Do your best Premier Higgs. To my understanding Nb'ers should be thanking their lucky stars it isn't the past Lib gov't leading the way through these trying times.

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Matthew Locke: Damn liberal virus!

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks it don't play politics and it ain't joking like fainthearted SANB clowns do N'esy Pas?

Lou Bell
If Mr. Jones understood Markets he'd realize they DO bounce back ! Unless NB Power is planning on decommissioning Lepreau in the next year it's investments in the stock market should be fine .


BruceJack Speculator 

Reply to @Lou Bell: agree, I was about to post a similar comment . . . but the variable here is that we have those financial wizards at the crown corporation who could easily decide to sell at a loss

 

 

Lou Bell

Reply to @BruceJack Speculator: True . Have they found the Genie in that bottle Thomas bought from the Florida company yet ?

 

 

BruceJack Speculator  

Reply to @Lou Bell: At least now, if they obey the travel guidelines, NB power execs can't get a free trip to Florida to check up on their wonderful plans.

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks whereas you and your buddy Brucey know so much about mutual funds etc you should have no problem finding the missing transcripts and webcasts of this US Banking Committee hearing. Once you have studied the documents you may understand that Higgy and Mr Jones have been keeping a lot of things under their hats for many years N'esy Pas?

Full Committee Hearing

Review of Current Investigations and Regulatory Actions Regarding the
Mutual Fund Industry

Date: Thursday, November 20, 2003
Time: 02:00 PM

Topic

The Committee will meet in OPEN SESSION to conduct the second in a
series of hearings on the “Review of Current Investigations and
Regulatory Actions Regarding the Mutual Fund Industry.”

Witnesses

Mr. Stephen M. Cutler
Director - Division of Enforcement
Securities and Exchange Commission

Mr. Robert Glauber
Chairman and CEO
National Association of Securities Dealers

Eliot Spitzer
Attorney General
State of New York

David Peters
Walk-ups should be accepted at drive-thrus now, imo. Not everyone gets around in a smaller vehicle.


SarahRose Werner 

Reply to @David Peters: I've done walk-ups at drive-thrus for decades in situations where the *only* way to access service was via the drive-thru. If that's the only access, it has to be available to everyone. I've gotten some raised eyebrows over the years, but I've never been refused service.

 

 

David Peters

Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
You're lucky, truck drivers are saying they're getting refused.

Not sure why fast food places would want turn away business like that.

 

 

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Peters: Afraid to get more than they bargained for.

 

 

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you are so brave that you darken the doors of fast food places on a daily basis because no doubt you don't even know how to cook beans and franks or prepare a kraft dinner N'esy Pas?

Yvon Landry
Good to hear the truth. We will survive one way or another. Within 60 days we should see the result. No use to panic.


David Amos 

Reply to @Yvon Landry: Methinks its already way past too late anyway N'esy Pas? 
 

Yvon Landry
Reply to @David Amos: Do don't agree. If we as a civilize society work together there is nothing we can't overcome, pandemic or economic.


David Amos 

Reply to @Yvon Landry: Methinks you should explain that to all the Yankees who are still jobless and homeless since 2008 N'esy Pas?

Roland Godin
Premier Higgs may consider selecting four politicians, from whatever political brand, who are the most qualified and competent to form a special cabinet to govern the province through these exceptional times.


Roy Nicholl 

Reply to @Roland Godin:
A non-partisan "war cabinet" might be a reassuring action both provincially and nationally.

 

David Amos 

Reply to @Roy Nicholl: Yea Right

Lou Bell 

Reply to @Roland Godin: You mean over riding cabinet members . I suspect there are MANY more highly qualified experts at Higgs disposal than ANY of the politicians the parties could provide. The Liberals have never been non partisan in anything they 've done over the last 50 years so I certainly don't expect anything better from them now 

Roland Godin

Reply to @Lou Bell:
Governance implies attributes to be guided by a collectivity’s Ways rationally, with rigour, insight, foresight and discernment vs. governing is applying the Means.

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Lou Bell: The most CONservative of them all, your idol, The Donald! 

Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: The Donald truly is a Republican and they are certainly a lot different than Canadian Conservatives , other than beinng really , really thight with their wallets . I'm not a conservative . I actually voted for trudeau in the last election , although it appears that may have been a big mistake. And Scheer certainly wasn't an option ! In NB I can recognize a wolf in sheeps clothing and the Liberals have fit that bill for over 50 years now ! Their one agenda platform is sooo transparent ,much like Trumps !!!!


David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: "I'm not a conservative"

WOW Methinks its time for your nap N'esy Pas?

 

SarahRose Werner
The most interesting bit of news I've seen so far today is that China has reopened its cinemas - four months after its first COVID cases. That suggests to me that NB might begin to recover from this in June, because we had our first cases in March.


Dan Armitage 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: we can only hope.

David Amos 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you should ask Mr Jones why NB Power keeps having me barred from the EUB hearings N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: The question begs the answer.

David Amos  

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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Who checks NB Power's books?

David Amos  

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: My reply went "Poof" again

Methinks you know where to find it later N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: I do not have to look to find it. The answer is palpable.

David Amos  
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks only evil people would make such a claim about simple truths N'esy Pas? 


David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: BTW I answered your query by only asking a very simple question that everybody linked to NB Power knows the answer to. 


David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: BTW The answer is KPMG Methinks you should be clever enough to figure out what my question was N'esy Pas?
























Brian Robertson
That's not news.
Everyone's budget is in a mess right now.
Name one government who had money sitting around for this contingency.


SarahRose Werner 

Reply to @Brian Robertson: Not just governments. Pretty much every *individual's* budget is a mess right now. People are collecting EI at 55% instead of getting paid at 100%. Small business owners are hurting and some (many?) will end up losing their businesses. Seniors who've been drawing on retirement investments to live are seeing the value of those investments fall. They're likely to rebound, at least a bit, by the end of the year, but they won't make up for the growth they'll have lost in the first half of 2020. And so on.

Richard Folkins

Reply to @Brian Robertson: I concur. We are in challenging times right now, much of it uncharted territory. I was disappointed with how the media tried to coerce our premier to commit to using force to make people remain isolated. Sometimes the media can be more destructive than constructive.

Les Cooper 

Reply to @Brian Robertson: cbc at its finest again

Les Cooper

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: well if oil doesnt recover. NB will be a mess for alot of years. Thanks Trudeau and tree huggers

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Les Cooper: So somehow coronavirus is Trudeau's fault and the fault of tree huggers? Oil market is controlled by OPEC and Russia not by anyone in North America.

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Les Cooper: The end of fossil fuels is near. This crisis is only precipitating the inevitable. One positive of this nasty virus is that all living beings on this planet are breathing cleaner air for a change.

Colin Seeley 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
All living beings in Canada will come to rue to days to Trudeau and his Social and Economic policies.

The air most breath is the same today as 1 year ago.

David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: "The end of fossil fuels is near."

Methinks its time for your nap N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: Actually I slept like a baby last night, as usual.

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Colin Seeley: ... if you think so.

Gary Melanson 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Everyone except government employees, they're getting paid.

Gary Melanson 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Almost everyone!

David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks people with no conscience always do N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Colin Seeley: Didn't you read the headline? "New Brunswick's two-week old budget already a 'mess' in wake of COVID-19 crisis." So?

David Amos 

Reply to @Gary Melanson: Methinks government employees will remain fat, dumb and happy riding on the Gravy Train whether they are compelled to sit home or not N'esy Pas?

David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Your point is?

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: ..as those who have no remorse of conscience since they have little to reproach themselves for and who don't have an axe to grind towards all and everyone.

David Amos 

Reply to @Brian Robertson: "Name one government who had money sitting around for this contingency."

Saudi Arabia

U.S. Considers Intervention in Saudi-Russia Oil Standoff
Texas regulators are weighing whether to curtail crude production for first time in decades
By Timothy Puko and Rebecca Elliott
Updated March 19, 2020 8:28 pm ET

"The Trump administration is considering intervening in the Saudi-Russian oil-price war, and Texas regulators are weighing whether to curtail crude production for the first time in decades, as U.S. producers suffer from a historic crash in prices."

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: I assume you are smart enough to understand.

David Amos 

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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you would have a tough time explaining to my conscience why I sleep like a baby even though I have many axes to grind in order to deal with many corrupt foes N'esy Pas?

David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I already replied but its still under moderation

David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: It went "Poof" as usual

Brian Robertson 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
That is just propaganda.
Fifty years from now, we will still be burning oil.

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Brian Robertson: Less than 100 years ago, the were also saying that we would still be traveling by horse and buggy.

Greg Smith 

Reply to @Brian Robertson: The Stone Age didn’t end because they ran out of stones. Oil is on it’s deathbed, after this crisis renewables will take over in an industry that will bring employment to many of the now displaced workforce.

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Greg Smith: You are most informed and a visionary as opposed to the one you just answered.

Buddy Best

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: CND has taken a big hit in 10 days it lost about 8% and has not hit bottom yet. Dow and TSX are down 30% plus. Incomes being cut in some cases by 46%. Some businesses will not survive, No fears though the Empire is safe with Higgs in fred. The good news is this budget will not have life to feed corporate interests only.

Buddy Best

Reply to @Les Cooper: CBC has no cred left. Just another corporate propaganda machine.

 

David Amos 

Reply to @Buddy Best: Yet they allow you to say it. Methinks amazing things never cease N'esy Pas?

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others

Methinks Green Party MLA Kevin Arseneau and former SANB President forgot to mention that his better half heads up the National Farmer Union N'esy Pas?

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/food-local-covid-market-closure-1.5503262#vf-all_threads-6854800019844

Demand for local food up but accessing customers during outbreak a challenge for producers

Kent Coates: 'I'm pretty lucky that I sell an essential item and hopefully people will be able to access it'

Tori Weldon· CBC News· Posted: Mar 20, 2020 8:00 AM AT



Kent Coates has seen an increased demand from his customers since the COVID-19 pandemic was declared, but with farmers markets closed he and other producers are trying to find ways of getting their goods to consumers. (Submitted/Really Local Harvest)

Local food producers say customers want to buy from them but finding a way to safely access customers is proving difficult during COVID-19 shutdowns.

Even before the province declared a state of emergency Thursday, many businesses, including most farmers markets, closed their doors to help stop the spread of the coronavirus.

Kent Coates, an organic farmer and owner of Nature's Route Farm in Point de Bute, normally sells his vegetables directly to his customers on Fridays at the Dieppe market and again on Saturdays in Dieppe and at markets in Moncton and Sackville.

By last weekend, only the Sackville location was open, but business was still brisk.

"Our potato sales last week were probably up 200 percent from…the week before," said Coates.
People were stocking up on food in the face of uncertainty surrounding the pandemic and Coates wants to be able to supply what they need.



Julian Howatt weighs romaine lettuce he grows hydroponically at his Moncton indoor farm, Local by Atta. (Tori Weldon/CBC)

"I'm pretty lucky that I sell an essential item and hopefully people will be able to access it."

Virtual market

In Moncton, Julian Howatt is tending to a variety of leafy greens at Local By Atta, a vertical hydroponic farm. He and his brother lost out on about a third of their weekly business when the Dieppe and Moncton markets closed last weekend. The business also took a hit when orders from restaurants dried up, but he said fortunately, he supplies grocery stores that have seen an increase in sales.

"We've also had a bit more interest in our weekly basket program, so that's working well," he said.

"We haven't quite offset the drop in demand elsewhere but we're working toward that."

Howatt, Coates and some other local producers had planned to hold a pop-up market at a parking lot in Dieppe, but cancelled it when the state of emergency was declared.

'Farmers are very resilient'

According to Maxime Gauvin, executive director of Really Local Harvest, "farmers are very resilient," and won't let the emergency measures act slow them down.



Maxime Gauvin, executive director of Really Local Harvest, said New Brunswick doesn't produce enough food to feed itself. He said, "I think some people will have been a little bit woken up by this situation and some habits will have changed." (Tori Weldon/CBC)


His group runs the Dieppe Farmers Market, which can see anywhere from 5000 to 7000 people through it's doors in a single day.

To help offset the huge loss in sales the market closure is costing producers, Gauvin's group is running a virtual market on Friday.

Customers must go to the group's website, place an order then pay for it. On Friday afternoon, outside the Dieppe market, customers pull up and open their trunk without getting out of the car. Employees and vendors place the orders in the trunk.

The transaction is done without any interaction.

Gauvin said about 30 orders were placed in the first 20 minutes of the order form being posted online.

Dependent on other regions for our food

Gauvin said some people may see farmers markets as social gatherings, but behind the coffee and conversation that normally goes on, important transactions are taking place. It's money spent that feeds the local economy, but also helps build a system that could make the province more food secure.

"We are very dependent on other regions for our food sources," said Gauvin.

• Hydroponic lettuce farmer thriving in face of national E. coli outbreak

• Shortage of good workers a struggle for many farmers

• N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province declares state of emergency

Kent Coates will be participating in the virtual market and hopes these difficult times can help highlight the importance of the province being more self-sufficient.

"It doesn't take very much of a sequence of events to really change our whole outlook and this is one that I see."

"We really would benefit from having more local production," said Coates.

He said he started farming 15 years ago because of a belief that the region should be more food secure.

"Those passions that I had 15 years ago are still valid, the world is both a big and a small place all at the same time."

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Tori Weldon

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Tori Weldon is a reporter based in Moncton. She's been working for the CBC since 2008.

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Michael G. L. Geraldson
If ever there was a good time to think about putting in a vegetable garden, this is it. Will be starting my seedlings soon.


Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson: Nothing beats vegetables and produce fresh from the garden! Add a hot house in order to extend the season. I can already taste that tomato. Yum! Yum!

David Amos

Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson: I concur 

 

Marguerite Deschamps
We should buy as much as we can from local producers. The money would stay in the province, it would lower the cost of transportation, less wear and tear on our roads and leave less carbon footprint while burning less fossil fuels. And their food is fresher, healthier and tastier to boot.


David Webb NB 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: We need to return to the days of buying what is in season locally. No more strawberries in winter, oranges forget those, and most fruit except apples until they are gone in early winter. Potatoes, turnip and cabbage just isn't going to cut it for most now days. Free trade has gutted our manufacturing sector so now EVERYTHING has to move around the world using fossil fuels while we can't manufacture basic things like clothing and footwear. That genie was let out of the bottle and isn't going back in.

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should have no fear I trust that the local farmers and fishermen will work as hard as usual keeping you wealthy SANB people stocked up with fresh fruits, vegetables, steak and lobsteretc. while the rest of us will continue to get by on canned beans and franks N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks the former SANB President forgot to mention that his better half heads up the National Farmer Union N'esy Pas?

'We haven't killed each other yet': Working at home during a pandemic
The rise of COVID-19 means more people are relocating their work areas
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Mar 19, 2020 7:13 PM AT |

Green Party MLA Kevin Arseneau, meanwhile, has set up a temporary constituency office in the nearby home of another family that is a partner in his Rogersville-area farm.

Working "at home" isn't new for a farmer, he says. "That part hasn't changed. I think what has changed for me is not being able to separate MLA work from the farm. That's the hardest part."

That's why he opted for a workspace away from his own house. "To have all of that in the same environment would not have been good for my mental health." He says he's still trying to find the right equilibrium.

Arseneau also says it's important to remember that not everyone is able to simply pick up their jobs and move them into their houses.

"People that have that privilege or the luxury of working from home are often better off financially. In low-wage-paying jobs, people are still physically having to go to work, and that's something that's been running in my mind: the question of the privilege that I also have."

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'We haven't killed each other yet': Working at home during a pandemic

The rise of COVID-19 means more people are relocating their work areas

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Mar 19, 2020 7:13 PM AT





More and more New Brunswickers find themselves in the same boat as they adjust to working from home to avoid spreading the COVID-19 virus. (Credit: Getty Images)


It's day four of working from home in the Blakely household, and so far, so good.

Dominic Blakely, who works at a technology entrepreneurship institute at the University of New Brunswick, has set himself up on a folding table in a spare room of the family home in Hanwell.

His wife Heather, a school vice-principal, has commandeered the kitchen table.

"Separate rooms, so we're not in each other's way, but close enough that we can bump into each other at the coffee maker," Blakely said during an interview via the video meeting app Zoom.

• N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province declares state of emergency

• Some children with COVID-19 become seriously ill, study finds

"We haven't killed each other yet, so that's always a positive. But it's not really much different than being at work, except that most of my meetings are taking place exactly like this."

More and more New Brunswickers find themselves in the same boat: together in their aloneness as they adjust to working from home to avoid spreading the COVID-19 virus.

'An odd time'

Luke Randall, a co-owner of two downtown Fredericton retail stores, says he's now working from home about 75 percent of the time as the stores gear down to pickup and delivery sales only.

"This is definitely an odd time and there are times I just want get out and connect with people," he says.



Brandon Hubbard, a product manager at the Fredericton office of IT company Introhive said "there's a bit of a learning curve" when it comes to working from home. (Brandon Hubbard)


Home-office veterans, including workers in Fredericton's technology sector, suddenly find themselves dispensing advice on how to stay sane if the place where you live is suddenly the place where you also work.

"There's a bit of a learning curve there as the culture is forced to change immediately: the accessibility of people, whether they're on chat, what their level of availability is," says Brandon Hubbard, a product manager at the Fredericton office of IT company Introhive.

"A lot of people that don't have previous experience suddenly have to communicate in different ways, when they're accustomed to just walking over to somebody's desk."

Maintaining me time

Sarah Rennick, who works for a company providing tech support for e-commerce sites, says boundaries are important when all your work tools are just down the hall.



"It's really important to not overwork yourself just because you're at home," she said. "A lot of people will let that bleed into their evening time. When I'm done work, I'm done work."

Rennick has a company-provided computer for work and she turns it off when she's done for the day and leaves it off. Usually she'll lie down, catch up on her phone or chat with her boyfriend to create a clear dividing line between work hours and the rest of her day.

She and her boyfriend have also established ground rules for interacting.



Sarah Rennick, who works for a company providing tech support for e-commerce sites, turns off her company computer when her shift is over to create a clear dividing line between work hours and the rest of her day. (Sarah Rennick)


"He knows what my work hours are and if he comes to talk to me when I'm working, I can just say 'I'm busy' and he knows I'm working and doesn't get offended."

Hubbard, Rennick and others had a few universal suggestions: maintain social interactions, such as by using videochat apps to speak to co-workers or friends.

Hubbard and his co-workers use Slack and have set up some channels for lighter-hearted conversations.

Rennick does the same: "so if you want to talk to someone, someone's always around."

Snacking a problem

Hubbard and his co-workers are also talking about organizing a "virtual happy hour" where they can grab a drink together -- at home -- while connecting online.

He also recommends putting your home workspace a healthy distance -- literally -- from the refrigerator.

"One of the challenges people have is the constant snacking and the best bet is to try to keep it away from your desk," he said. "If it's not within arm's reach you're less likely to find yourself constantly snacking and eating."

Randall says he relishes the hour or so he has to spend at the stores every day to do tasks that he can't do at home.

"I kind of love going in," he said. "I do find it therapeutic to go in."


Green Party MLA Kevin Arseneau has set up a temporary constituency office in the nearby home of another family to separate his MLA life from his Rogersville-area farm life. (Kevin Arseneau)


Green Party MLA Kevin Arseneau, meanwhile, has set up a temporary constituency office in the nearby home of another family that is a partner in his Rogersville-area farm.

Working "at home" isn't new for a farmer, he says. "That part hasn't changed. I think what has changed for me is not being able to separate MLA work from the farm. That's the hardest part."

That's why he opted for a workspace away from his own house. "To have all of that in the same environment would not have been good for my mental health." He says he's still trying to find the right equilibrium.

Arseneau also says it's important to remember that not everyone is able to simply pick up their jobs and move them into their houses.

"People that have that privilege or the luxury of working from home are often better off financially. In low-wage-paying jobs, people are still physically having to go to work, and that's something that's been running in my mind: the question of the privilege that I also have."

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Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 

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David Amos
"To have all of that in the same environment would not have been good for my mental health." He says he's still trying to find the right equilibrium."

Methinks the scrappy little dude who is a former president of the SANB is too too funny indeed when he alludes to the awful truth of his character N'esy Pas?

David Amos

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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks everybody knew I was happy my friend ran against that SANB dude N'esy Pas?

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Reply to @David Amos: Go Figure Why there was not much love for the SANB in the backrooms of Higgy's circus on Valentines Day

Kent North MLA says he's subject of harassment complaint
Kevin Arseneau said he 'calmly pushed' another MLA during confrontation
CBC News · Posted: Feb 15, 2020 1:02 PM AT

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David Stairs
the point here is that the people have had enough of the Duality that has been bestowed by the government apun us for the last 60 years and proven a failure...the people want a stop put to it but there are a few who will do anything to keep it and keep their respective seats...

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Stairs: therefore you advocate criminal behavior such as unlawful confinement by an elected official to boot as we often see in banana republics? It does not surprise me a bit from where some of them hails from.

Paul Bourgoin
Reply to @David Stairs: I agree, but English appears to be failing so lets try French!

David Amos

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Fred Brewer:
Forced confinement is called kidnapping. Would you charge a victim who pushed their kidnapper in order to escape? No, of course not. I see nothing wrong here, assuming the facts are as stated.

Matt Steele
Reply to @Fred Brewer: ....If the facts were as Mr. Arseneau is stating them , then there would have been no complaint . There were witnesses present , and Mr. Arseneau's version of events , and theirs are very different . Plus Kevin has quite a history of this ; Kevin is lucky that this incident is being handled internally as he would be facing assault charges if this same incident happened in the public .

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Matt Steele: in your biased opinion.

Mack Leigh
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Me thinks that Arseneau may be trying to have his case made in the court of public opinion... If he were blameless and faultless in all of this he would have no need to spew his side of the story all over any media outlet available... Me thinks he doth protest too much..

Fred Brewer:
Reply to @Matt Steele: Where are you getting your information? The article does not mention any witness with a conflicting account of Mr. Arseneau's version. Are you just making this stuff up to support your case?

David Amos
My MY My Methinks the clowns are not so Happy Happy Happy in the backrooms of this circus N'esy Pas?

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Economic activity in province continues to slow amid virus fears

Large sections of economy have been shutting down in recent days in an attempt to slow the spread of COVID-19

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Mar 19, 2020 7:30 AM AT



Point Lepreau generating station has been shut down for repairs, inspections and upgrades in April for seven years in a row, but this year's scheduled event is postponed because of the COVID-19 pandemic. (CBC)

NB Power is postponing $53.5 million in maintenance work on the Point Lepreau Nuclear Generating Station planned to begin next month to avoid aiding the spread of the COVID-19 virus

It's the latest blow to New Brunswick's economy delivered by the global pandemic as all non essential activity in the province that involves close human interaction continues to shut down

NB Power's Marc Belliveau said there are no issues at the plant needing to be addressed immediately but the utility will try to fit the six week shutdown into another window later this year, presumably before the critical winter heating season begins next fall.

The plant will continue to operate as normal until then.

• Public pensions take a hit from COVID-19 concerns

• Small businesses scramble for cash flow in face of COVID-19 closures

 "While no decisions on a new date have been taken at this time, NB Power is reassessing potential dates for rescheduling later in the year," said Belliveau in an email.

Beyond NB Power

Large sections of New Brunswick's economy have been shutting down in recent days in an attempt to slow the spread of COVID-19.

Most of the province's $110 million per month restaurant and bar sector, which employs thousands of people, has been shuttered.  Sporting events, concerts, theatres, bowling alleys, trade shows, daycares and other public gathering places  have also mostly gone dark.


Public spaces were urged to close by Chief Medical Officer of Health Jennifer Russell. 1:16

Other seasonal segments of the economy that normally come alive in spring are still waiting on word of how the virus might affect them.

On Tuesday, the provincial government announced a two week delay in both the listing and opening of construction tenders for building and roadwork - a move contractors and hundreds of labourers and equipment operators who work for them - were left trying to interpret.


NB Power's rate hearing in front of the Energy and Utilities Board in February included testimony about its plans for a six week maintenance shutdown at the Lepreau nuclear plant beginning in April. (CBC)

New Brunswick is one of the last provinces without an electronic tendering system, requiring contractors to hand deliver bids and physically attend public tender openings at government offices.

Tom McGinn with the New Brunswick Road Builders & Heavy Construction Association is hoping the delay is related to that

"We think it is delayed because it (tendering) is not an essential service," said McGinn, "That's our guess."

Major roadwork in New Brunswick normally does not begin until mid–May and McGinn has heard no talk yet of it not going forward as usual.

The Lepreau shutdown was timed for early April; to take advantage of peak hydro electric generation by river dams to provide replacement power, but will now have to move to a less economical window.  

That will involve rescheduling contractors and cancelling or rearranging employee vacations to undertake the dozens of repairs, inspections and upgrades that have been planned for more than a year, in some cases..

The $53.5 million budget includes spending $10.5 million on work for outside contractors and $7.6 million on employee overtime - much of which would have flowed into the local economy.

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 

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David Amos
Methinks Mr Jones should checkout the letter dated today from Mr Thomas the boss of NB Power whose mandate purportedly ended last month asking the EUB not to raise power rates and delay its decision on "Not So Smart" meters until he confers with Higgy et al N'esy Pas?


Roger Richard

Reply to @David Amos: Sure is: no smart meters for now!

David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise

David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: Methinks some folks must have noticed that the photo does show where my friend Roger Richard was sitting during the EUB hearing N'esu Pas?

Mac Isaac
ATTENTION CBC, CTV, Global et al news organizations: I believe, as do most people; not just NBers, but EVERYBODY tat we're tired of every damned story being about Covid-19. YES, we are all fully aware now of what this dread disease is wreaking on all of us, but it's time to start giving us positive news about this disease, such as placing a bit of emphasis on those who ARE recovering. This doesn't have to be totally on this, but people, I think, need to be able to see a teeny tiny speck of hope down the tunnel. All I'm asking, on behalf of those of us who are quite shell-shocked by all the increasing incidents of Covid-19 spreading and resulting deaths, that you news people share some stories of hope.
I don't need the stories of babies or teens or oldsters dying...what I need, and I believe we all need, are stories of those who contracted Covid-19 and SURVIVED! That's what we need, so please deliver those...you can put in footnotes of those increasing numbers but please GIVE US HOPE! That's my plea to you.

Bryan Jones

Reply to @Mac Isaac: The news media output in NB is usually trivia, who said what on Instagram and which star is dating which other star. I'm pleased that they are actually reporting some real news for a change.

David Amos

Reply to @Bryan Jones: Yea Right

Mac Isaac 

Reply to @Bryan Jones: While I understand your point...sometimes! Your statement isn't actually correct in this instance. Media outlets from coast to coast and in Canada and internationally are ALL, i.e. 100% of them diving into this story and not relinquishing a hold on it...24/7! So your broad statement, in this instance, is far, far, far off the mark! And literally no news organization is taking a lesser tone than the g.d. sky is falling! and i'm not exaggerating even a little bit. All that I'm asking is a bit of a respite and/or the occasional report about some successes in beating Covid-19. I don't think that's asking too much. Even during the worst days of WWII newscasters occasionally mentioned an allied victory against the Axis powers. THAT'S what I'd like to hear and/or read...it indicates hope and that's pretty important to any people fighting a "war". Don't you think?

Robert Smith

Reply to @Mac Isaac: Have you thought about switching off your PC? Sugar coating isn't going to make things better.

David Amos

Reply to @Robert Smith: Methinks he would no wish to miss the circus N'esy Pas?

Johnny Jakobs
Point Lepreau... the flagship of NBPower


Ben Haroldson 

Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: Skeleton staff , full staff same thing.

Johnny Jakobs 

Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: with its 400 million dollar operating budget and another 54 million in upgrades each year. How many billion in a refit 10 years ago that's never hit a predicted target.

David Amos

Reply to @Johnny Jakobs: BINGO 

 

Ben Haroldson
Fyi, according to several employees who work there, most of them are home. They are running on what they call a " skeleton " crew, although work is proceeding normally.

Ben Haroldson

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: re Pt Lepreau.

David Amos

Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Methinks all our public servants are far too fat, dumb and happy happy happy that they can sit home and dream of going hunting turkey next year thanks to the same dude who oversees NB Power N'esy Pas?

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-outbreak-premier-blaine-higgs-new-brunswick-1.5502607

N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province declares state of emergency

Confirmed cases jump to 7, with 4 probable

Elizabeth Fraser, Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon· CBC News· Posted: Mar 19, 2020 1:07 PM AT




Premier Blaine Higgs said he is convinced the province can manage the pandemic if everyone reacts properly. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

New Brunswick has declared a state of emergency in response to the COVID-19 outbreak, giving the government broad powers to enforce business closures and social distancing to prevent the spread of the virus, Premier Blaine Higgs announced Thursday.

It comes as the number of confirmed cases has jumped to seven, and the number of probable cases stands at four. No one has been hospitalized.

The government did not make the decision lightly but was compelled to take this "extraordinary measure" because too many people are still not following the advice of public health officials, Higgs told reporters during the daily briefing in Fredericton.

"These are unprecedented actions, but these are necessary as we are in unprecedented times."


There are seven confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick. (Photo: CBC News)
 
Retail operations must close, with some exceptions, such as grocery stores, retailers of fuels, repair garages, post offices, financial and lending institutions, convenience stores, hardware and automotive parts, animal and fish feed providers, pharmacies, gas stations, NB Liquor and Cannabis NB.

All businesses required to stop admitting patrons are permitted to sell online or over the phone and to arrange delivery or pickup of purchases

At a news conference Thursday, Higgs listed the businesses and operations that have been ordered to close immediately. 2:59

All food and beverage businesses will be reduced to takeout and delivery service only, and all bars must close.

Barber shops, hairdressers and salons must also cease operations.

Public schools, universities, colleges, and private schools must remain closed to students until further notice.

Plumbers and electricians are exempted as long as they haven't been outside Canada because they will have to self-isolate within their home for 14 days after their return to Canada.

Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said she supported the measure to "ensure compliance."


Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, says the number of confirmed cases of COVID-19 has jumped to seven. (Photo: Mike Heenan/CBC)

She said she is "concerned" New Brunswickers are not doing enough to help the health-care system manage the crisis, preventing further illness and saving lives.

Russell has asked people to stay home if possible and to maintain a social distance of six feet, or about two metres.

• What does N.B.'s emergency declaration mean for businesses and workers?

"Before this was a recommendation, today it's a requirement," Higgs said.

"I am convinced that this decision to declare a state of emergency is the best way to protect everyone in New Brunswick," he said.

The Happy Baker with empty seats inside its closed location in downtown Fredericton. (Mike Heenan/CBC)

"It will allow us to avoid the dire situation we are seeing in other areas around the world."

Speaking of people not following the government's advice, Higgs pointed to travellers being picked up at the airport and driven home by family and friends as if everything was normal.

"We believe that 'it won't happen to me.' And you know what? It's happened to a lot of people and right now folks in Italy are saying, 'I wish I paid more attention.'"

According to the Public Health website, 410 of the tests done so far have come back negative for the virus.

What about enforcement?

If people don't follow these orders, the province will look at different ways to enforce the new rules and look at "next steps," Higgs said.

"This is not optional."

Asked if it's possible someone could go to jail for disobeying, Higgs said the declaration does provide authorities with such powers.

"But that is not our intent," he said. "Nor do we hope that we get there.

"But I think that residents need to understand that we only do this to ensure that these rules, these requirements, must be followed."

Here is a roundup of other developments Thursday:

Listen to your doctor

According to government, every person who has been directed by a physician to self-isolate, has to obey.

Every person who has been outside Canada will self-isolate at home for 14 days after their return to Canada. If they experience symptoms of COVID-19, they need to self-isolate until they are free of symptoms.

All regulated health service providers are stopping a lot of their regular operations but not essential or emergency health care.

Most unregulated health services providers have to immediately stop their operations, under the declaration of a state of emergency.

What about my business?

Government has also ordered owners and operators who run places that attract large groups to now limit gatherings to 10 people at most.

Owners and managers of all workplaces and activities have been ordered to ensure minimal interaction of people within two metres of each other and carry out other prevention advice from Public Health.

Hotels can stay open provided they reasonable steps to prevent gatherings of more than 10 people.

Meanwhile, the right of landlords to evict tenants for not paying rent has been suspended until May 31.

What about my driver's licence?

All licences, registrations, certificates and permits issued by the Province of New Brunswick that are valid as of March 16, will remain valid until May 31 unless suspended by a court or by other authority under an Act of the Province.

• N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Higgs steps up plea for caution as 3 new cases are reported

Service New Brunswick is also working with the Department of Public Safety to address services that can't be done online because certain documentation must be presented in person.

Service New Brunswick announced earlier this week that it was closing all centres for now.

Clinic picture uncertain

If patients without a family doctor have health issues unrelated to COVID-19, they should contact a local walk-in clinic where possible, the New Brunswick Medical Society says.

This could be difficult to navigate, since some walk-in clinics are open and others have closed because of the outbreak. The closures include the Mountain Road After Hours Medical Clinic in Moncton and the Millidgeville Medical Clinic in Saint John.

Three new presumptive cases of COVID-19 have been diagnosed, bringing the province's total to 11. (Shutterstock)

At the New Maryland After Hours Clinic near Fredericton, patients are being encouraged to call the clinic instead of waiting in groups to see a doctor.

On Wednesday, chief medical health officer Jennifer Russell encouraged patients who don't have family doctors but need prescription renewals or help unrelated to the coronavirus to call 811.

It wasn't clear from Russell's answer how the 811 service would get people help from doctors, but she did say the province was working on the issue with the medical society.

• Here is a list of cancellations across the province because of Covid-19

According to the society website, as of July 2018, more than  44,000 New Brunswickers were without a family doctor.

Provincial parks close 

Following government's decision to shut down all non-essential services, all provincial parks are closed until further notice.

This closure includes the three provincial parks which are usually open during the winter months: Mount Carleton, Mactaquac and Sugarloaf.

Why Saint John Transit is offering free fare 

Saint John Transit will not be collecting fares from passengers taking the bus.

Riding the bus in Saint John is free for the time being. Saint John Transit has asked passengers to enter through the back doors of buses to avoid contact with drivers. Passengers with disabilities can still board through the front doors.

• Some children with COVID-19 become seriously ill, study finds

Trish Ellsworth, chair of the Saint John transit and Parking Commission, said public transit is for people who cannot and do not have an option to work from home, like health care providers and grocery store workers.

• UNB biology department notified of possible COVID-19 contact

"This is not now a free–for–all to go on a coffee date with some friends, as our government officials have been saying for a number of days now. We should be isolating and we should be staying home if at all possible."

Air Canada suspends flights

Air Canada has postponed a number of domestic flights that will affect four New Brunswick airports until April 30.
The suspended flights include:

• Flights between Ottawa and Moncton starting March 23.
  
• Flights between Saint John and Toronto starting March 23.
  
• Flights between Montreal and Bathurst starting March 23.
  
• Flights between Fredericton and Toronto starting April 1.
  

Saint John Airport director of commercial development, Jacques Fournier said even before the announcement, the number of travellers on departure flights had already fallen off dramatically.

"There's a lot of people arriving, and not a whole lot leaving, said Fournier. "Obviously everybody is scrambling to get back home. We believe that April will obviously be very slow until the curve [of Covid-19 cases] can be settled down a little bit."
 

What to do if you have any symptoms?

Symptoms of coronavirus can include fever, cough and shortness of breath. With any of these, residents should:

• Stay at home.
• Immediately call Tele-Care 811.
  
• Describe symptoms and travel history.
  
• Follow instructions carefully.
  

 

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Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca

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What does N.B.'s emergency declaration mean for businesses and workers?

Move gives province much more power over people, employers

Shane Magee· CBC News· Posted: Mar 19, 2020 6:26 PM AT



The Happy Baker with empty seats inside its closed location in downtown Fredericton. (Mike Heenan/CBC)

The province's declaration of a state of emergency changes what businesses can stay open and what employers must do to keep employees safe during the coronavirus pandemic.

On Thursday, Premier Blaine Higgs declared a state of emergency in New Brunswick, using the powers in the Emergency Measures Act.

It's a move that gives the government much more control over people and businesses.

"You should only leave the house for groceries or essential items," Higgs said during a news conference in Fredericton.

But many people will still need to go to work so various essential services, including grocery stores and gas stations, can remain in operation.


New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs says the declaration makes measures affecting businesses and workers mandatory. (Photo: Shane Fowler/CBC New)

Notably, the declaration means that after a week of public health recommending - without the power to enforce - now there are legal requirements.

• Owners and operators of locations where people may gather in large numbers must take all reasonable steps to prevent gatherings of more than 10 people;
  
• Owners and managers of all workplaces must take every reasonable step to ensure minimal interaction of people within two metres of each other;
  
• Carry out advice to minimize risk as issued by the chief medical officer of health.
  

"I would say that it's very clear that it's no longer a voluntary exercise," Higgs said Thursday.

Employers are required to scale down operations to only essential workers. Employers will themselves define who is essential.

As well, any business with a "public facing" element must halt that portion of its operations.

• N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province declares state of emergency

• With a few precautions, employees can work safely and productively from home

All businesses in retail sales must stop admitting patrons, except: grocery stores, pharmacies, automotive garages, post offices, financial and lending institutions, fuel retailers, hardware and automotive parts, and convenience stores.

NB Liquor and Cannabis NB can remain open, but Higgs said they will have reduced hours.
The declaration came after Higgs told reporters Tuesday that invoking the Emergency Measures Act wasn't required.

Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer of health, said Thursday she supports the move to reduce the risk of spreading the virus and "ensure compliance."
 

Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, says she supports the declaration of a state of emergency in the province. (Mike Heenan/CBC)

Jim Cormier, Atlantic director with the Retail Council of Canada, said the orders to close and the pandemic have resulted in "trying times for the retail sector in New Brunswick."

He said he's hopeful the province will also come out with an assistance package for businesses affected by closures that builds on those announced by the federal government.

He said businesses closed for weeks or months will face difficulty paying premiums for workers compensation, property taxes and power bills.

• Trudeau unveils $82B COVID-19 emergency response package for Canadians, businesses

• Who can work from home, and who needs to be in the office?

For locations like call centres that have continued to operate, Higgs said changes must be made.

"A call centre that does not meet the required distancing needs to change their configuration to ensure that they do so," Higgs said.

Jason Purdy, executive director of the industry group ContactNB, said many workplaces have implemented work-from-home. About 20,000 people in the province work at call centres.

Purdy said some call centres deal with information that's sensitive that can't leave the building. In those cases, he said operations are reducing to "skeleton crews."

Locations putting employees at risk face shutdown

Higgs offered few specifics when pressed by reporters on how the declaration would be enforced, saying he hoped the move would result in a shift in people's thinking before enforcement is required.

Later in the day, Higgs said on the CBC New Brunswick Political Panel podcast that the province is setting up a phone line people can call to report problems.

"We will monitor those sites, we will visit those sites and we will ensure compliance," Higgs said.

"And if a facility is not maintaining health and hygiene and is in fact exposing their employees, we will shut them down. We don't have a choice."

Does WorkSafeNB have a role?

WorkSafeNB's website says the agency's vision is to keep "people safe and healthy at work." Does that mean it can step in if issues arise related to the pandemic?

Laragh Dooley, director of communications with WorkSafeNB, told CBC the agency "does not have the authority to enforce public health recommendations on workplaces."

WorkSafeNB can investigate whether a workplace has taken reasonable measures to ensure health and safety of employees, which Dooley said could differ by workplace.

Under the Occupational Health and Safety Act, each employer in the province must take reasonable precautions to ensure the health and safety of their employees. Employees have the right to refuse work they believe is unsafe.

Such complaints can be investigated by WorkSafeNB, Dooley said. As of Wednesday, Dooley said the agency hasn't received any complaints.

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David Amos
Methinks even though I am a senior with no Medicare Card thanks to Higgy et al and have a bum ticker and a severe shortness of breath as well, I see no reason to be upset. I truly believe folks need to consider this a vacation away from a mad mad world. Relax. There is nothing you can do about it other than to stay away from other folks and watch the current circus unfold its tent N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: They claim there are two things we cannot escape death and taxes. So why not find some fun dicing with them? Trust that I intend to continue frustrating the Tax Man and the Grim Reaper despite the existence of a scary stock market crash and a nasty virus.

David Amos

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Reply to @David Amos: Enjoy

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David Peters
Look at that emergency measures act. Talk about giving up liberty for security...

Though, it's said that when you give up liberty for security, you end up with neither.


David Amos 

Reply to @David Peters: Methinks you should give old Ben Franklin the credit for that opinion N'esy Pas?

David Peters

Reply to @David Amos:
It certainly seems to apply, when considering emergency measures, imo. 

 

Marc Bastarache
Why are store hours being limited?... Doesn't that concentrate people together?
You'd think leaving a skeleton staff -- and opening stores for 24 hours -- would allow people to shop in the middle of the night -- spreading out crowds into thinner slices..


David Peters 

Reply to @Marc Bastarache:
Like how they forced everyone abroad to rush to already crowded airports...

David Amos 

Reply to @Marc Bastarache: Good Point

James Cameron
The response is disproportionate to the threat.

I don’t know what is worse, getting the flu, losing all your freedoms, or losing your home because you can not work. Doesn’t make sense.

Max Power

Reply to @James Cameron: It's not the flu. It's a virus and a disease. And if it prevents one vulnerable person from dying , then the inconvenience is worth it.

David Amos 

Reply to @Max Power: Gee did they find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq yet?

Lewis Taylor

It means we do not have a surplus as usual.

   

David Amos

Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Methinks you liberal dudes want too much anyway N'esy Pas? 

 

Michael durant
Food, booze and weed. We can still go for these services if we limit the amount of food, one roast not five please. My wifes sees her doctor once/month to monitor cancer, Her appointment for yesterday cancelled yesterday. There was no video conferencing available btw...what was the province even talking about? Appointment re-booked for April 29th.


David Amos 

Reply to @Michael durant: My hospital visit and meeting with my doctor were cancelled as well 

 

Jim .Jackson
"You should only leave the house for groceries or essential items," Higgs said. This needs to be clarified for those who are now thinking (and there are some) they can't go for a walk or out to their own yards. Health authorities are indicating that being outside walking around is perfectly fine for healthy individuals as long as you are following the guidelines regarding social distancing and so on.


SarahRose Werner  

Reply to @.Jim .Jackson: I have chronic depression. Outdoor exercise is one of the ways I manage it. Having read the emergency declaration carefully, I plan to continue going for a walk each afternoon. To me, that's far more essential than keeping the alcohol and cannabis stores open! I also note that while the City of Saint John's website lists several facilities that they've closed, it does not list any outdoor facilities such as Harbour Passage, Rockwood Park or the Irving Nature Park. Walk on, friends. Six feet apart from each other, of course.

SarahRose Werner  

Reply to @.Jim .Jackson: I'd also like to point out that this situation is rather different than a state of emergency declared after, for example, a blizzard or ice storm. This will not last for days. It will last for several weeks/a few months. Your immune system will be all the stronger if you get outdoors to help maintain both your physical and mental health.

Dan Lee 

Reply to @.Jim .Jackson:
if only people that are back from vacation would isolate....some dont take it seriously....if you infect a grocery store in a 1 horse town its going to be devasting for older people......stay home please

SarahRose Werner  

Reply to @Dan Lee: As long as you stay 6' away from anyone else you meet on your walks, you're not going to get infected.

Dan Lee 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
on your walks no...but in a store......virus could stay for days.......

SarahRose Werner 

Reply to @Dan Lee: Sure, but if you need groceries, you need groceries. Stores that sell groceries are being allowed to stay open because groceries are an essential item. No one's arguing that. Jim's point was that *in addition* to buying groceries, it's safe to go for walks outside as long as you stay 6' away from other people. You should also stay 6' away from other people while inside the store.

SarahRose Werner  

Reply to @Dan Lee: Note that this applies to people who are *not* showing symptoms of COVID-19, let alone have been diagnosed with it. People who have symptoms should get tested and people who've been diagnosed should self-isolate = stay home.

David Amos 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I agree Keep on walking and enjoying what Mother Nature has to offer on the first day of Spring. Please never lose your faith in mankind. I know for a fact there are lots of lovely folks in this wonderful old world just give nod as you keep your distance from them for now.

John Holmes

Reply to @.Jim .Jackson: I went for a walk the other day on the Nashawaak trail, and the trail was busier than I have seen it in a long time. Many people, whole families and many couples were out, dozens and dozens.

Matt Steele
It is really a joke ; Higgs wants retail to shut down , and force their employees onto EI which only pays 55% of their normal wage ; yet he wants the Govt. operated booze and dope shops kept open . I was in a retail store shopping this afternoon at around 4-15 pm ; all the employees were told at 4 pm that they would no longer have jobs at 5 pm , as the store was closing under govt. order at that time , and management had no idea when the store would reopen . Some of the staff had tears in their eyes....it is really unbelievable how callous and self serving the Higgs govt. has become now that they have the backing of the Green Party 


Errol Willis 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Maybe if people weren't "in a retail store shopping", it wouldn't have gotten to this. How many times do people have to be told to stay home?

Adam Fowler

Reply to @Errol Willis: Exactly!

Matt Steele 

Reply to @Errol Willis: ....As you may , or may not know ; the world does not revolve around what politicians command us to do . People are fully capable of shopping in retail stores while maintaining proper social distancing , and cleanliness . I suspect that this hard line that Higgs is trying to enforce will have the opposite affect as folks will start to push back . It is really doubtful that people are going to remain penned up in their homes for weeks on end unless they really have no other life to live . It is what it is .

Errol Willis 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Not to be trite, but while you personally may be able to do that, not everyone can or will - as evidenced by the beach scene in Florida yesterday. It is very unfortunate, but like you say, it is what it is. I don't agree with those who say stay inside at all costs, but I also think people should stay out of malls and stores for non essential items. It's only been a few days and people can't seem to comprehend the concept of stay home. AS you say - what will happen if this drags on for two months? The only way to ensure people do not congregate in closed in locations os to close them, since they obviously don't listen  

Max Power

Reply to @Matt Steele: Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.

David Amos 

Reply to @Max Power: Methinks they get the governments they deserve N'esy Pas?

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-covid-19-schools-closures-1.5504887

New Brunswick public schools will stay closed indefinitely

Education Minister Dominic Cardy will have more to say about home-school plans in the days to come

Jacques Poitras· CBC· Posted: Mar 20, 2020 5:04 PM AT



Officials with the Department of Education said in a memo to parents not to expect home learning options until April at the earliest. (Kevin Mulcahy/Shutterstock )

Schools will remain closed in New Brunswick indefinitely because of COVID-19, the province said Friday.

A memo to parents from the deputy minister of the anglophone education system, George Daley, said they will remain closed "until further notice."

Premier Blaine Higgs said the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development is working with districts on how to arrange for students to do school work at home.


Premier Blaine Higgs said public schools across the province will likely not open by March 30. (CBC)

"Where we are at this phase is they're looking at alternative ways that they can have education materials available to students at home," Higgs said.

Earlier in the day on Twitter, Education Minister Dominic Cardy said officials would be working on that next week. Daley said in the memo to parents they "should not expect home learning options until April at the earliest."

Daley urged parents to spend the coming week focusing on physical and mental well-being with their children.

"Resources are being assembled to share early next week to help guide and support your efforts."
 

 Education Minister Dominic Cardy said on Twitter the department was working on many things, including getting schools ready for other uses. (Jacques Poitras/Twitter screenshot)

In his tweet, Cardy said this past week had been about "getting schools ready for other uses."

Asked if that might include COVID-19 patients if existing hospital capacity is overwhelmed, Higgs said that's not the plan.

"Obviously, if the schools are vacant and they are buildings we need for centres of any kind, they could be used," he said. But planning in the health care system now is focusing on existing facilities.

• N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province braces for 'next big wave' of coronavirus

• New Brunswick's two-week old budget already a 'mess' in wake of COVID-19 crisis

In a briefing on how the daycare sector will function as most centres close and others remain open for the children of essential workers, Daley said some schools could be used for the spillover demands.

Higgs announced March 13 after a meeting of an all-party committee of cabinet ministers and political party leaders that all schools would close for two weeks.

• N.B. party leaders come together in time of crisis

• Province shuts down public schools for 2 weeks over COVID-19 worries

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Shawn McShane
Every day removed from the Left wing establishment protest movement is a good day.

Graham McCormack

Reply to @Shawn McShane: What a moronic statement.

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Graham McCormack: ... that characterizes the one who made it, I might add.

Lou Bell

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I think he meant you .

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you are all in the same sinking boat just paddling in different directions N'esy Pas?

Aaron Lagendyk
Now is a good time for parents to step up and make schedules for their kids. You can still home-school certain things during this time. It helps to keep structure and also to pass the time to keep from going stir crazy.
Zoom software, scanned workbooks, maybe a short video lesson? Light duty stuff. This generation is going to be behind I think if we don't start thinking outside the box. Things aren't brick and mortar anymore; work and school included.

Roy Nicholl

Reply to @Aaron Lagendyk:
There are many non-academic things you could be teaching your children: cooking, how to sew a button, fixing a dripping faucet, check the oil in the vehicles, repair a broken toy, etc. [at an age appropriate level, naturally]

Have your kids help put together a "todo" list around the house and then tackle a small item every day. It gets them away from the screens and will embody them with more confidence and self-sufficiency.

Lou Bell

Reply to @Roy Nicholl: Sounds good , and yet some parents these days are either just too lazy or more into themselves to actually want to help the kids . Facebook and YouTube are more their norm !

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your hero Cardy should put down his butter tarts and explain to you who I am and what my issues are sometime soon because you are too lazy to do your own research N'esy Pas?

Matt Cowan
with our technology, all classes and courses should be videod and put online. if you are sick and miss English, log on to your school account and watch the video. it wouldn't take much, and would be perfect for stuff like this, or just normal sick days. If you have question that the video didn't answer, email your prof. Best part is you would be able to go back and reference the video, if you didn't understand it initially.

Lou Bell

Reply to @Matt Cowan: Unless I missed something , I believe this is about SCHOOLS !! Not many SCHOOLS in NB have Profs ! Universities have already been shut down and classes have already started online . The problem with doing this with school kids is that , although I'm not sure of the numbers , most likely 20 to 25 % of the kids have no access to online courses .

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks your VESTCOR buddies had another bad week playing with the teacher's pension funds but that ok by you N'esy Pas?

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N.B. COVID-19 roundup: 6 new presumptive cases bring province's total to 17

Premier Blaine Higgs says peak of virus in New Brunswick could be 5 weeks away

Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon, Gail Harding· CBC News· Posted: Mar 21, 2020 8:25 AM AT



Dr. Jennifer Russell said all New Brunswickers must take the state of emergency seriously. 'We can't be complacent,' she said. (CBC)

Six new presumptive cases of COVID-19 have been diagnosed in New Brunswick, and two previous presumptive cases have now been confirmed, bringing the province's total number of cases to 17, chief medical officer of health Dr. Jennifer Russell announced on Saturday.

There are now nine confirmed cases and eight presumptive cases.

Four of the latest ones involve people from the southern part of the province who had been on a cruise, Russell told reporters during the daily update in Fredericton.

She said she didn't have information about whether the individuals had been on the same cruise.
The new cases include:

• A man in his 40s in the south who had been on a cruise.
• A woman in her 50s in central New Brunswick who is a direct contact of  a previously identified presumptive case.
• A woman in her 40s in the south who had been on a cruise.
• A man in his 60s in the south who had been on a cruise.
• A woman in her 50s in the south who had been on a cruise.
• A woman in her 20s in the south who is a contact to a travel-related presumptive case.

The newly confirmed cases include:

• A boy under the age of 10 from central New Brunswick announced as presumptive on March 17 and linked to a previous travel-related case.
• A woman in her 60s from the southeast announced as presumptive on March 18 who had been on a cruise.

Chief Medical Officer of Health Jennifer Russell and Blaine Higgs gave an update on New Brunswick COVID-19, the novel coronavirus, on Saturday. 1:42

New Brunswick declared a state of emergency Thursday, giving the government broad powers to enforce business closures and social distancing to prevent the spread of the virus.

"We need to behave as though we all have COVID-19," advised Russell.

"Although there may not be cases in your area yet, you need to act like there are," she said. "There are people traveling from all over the world to different parts of New Brunswick."

As long as returning international travellers self-isolate for the mandatory 14 days, call 811 if they develop symptoms and continue to self-isolate while they await test results, Russell said she "anticipates" being able to contain the travel-related cases.

"That is our goal right now."

Here is a roundup of other developments.

People calling 911 to report on returning travellers

Premier Blaine Higgs said he has heard of residents calling 911 to report returning travellers who are not self-isolating for 14 days.

The government will have a phone line and email set up by Sunday for people to call "for advice on their concerns of how to help family members and neighbours comply with the state of emergency orders," he said.

The phone number and email will be available on the government website and will be shared through social media.
 
 
Testing has identified six new presumptive cases and confirmed two previous presumptive cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, bringing the total number of cases in the province to 17: nine confirmed and eight presumptive. A total of 771 tests have come back negative. (CBC)

"For now, the best thing you can do is to direct returning travellers and all residents to follow the guidelines laid out in the state of emergency order."

People returning from travel outside Canada should not be picked up at the airport by family or friends, or go grocery shopping, the premier has said. They should begin their 14-day self-isolation immediately and have a vehicle dropped off and supplies delivered.

Anyone who gives returning travellers a drive home from the airport, or comes into contact with a traveller, must also self-isolate, Higgs said on Saturday.

P.E.I. to screen at border

Prince Edward Island will be screening anyone anyone entering the province and directing them to self-isolate for 14 days — even if they're arriving from within Canada, the island's chief public health officer, Dr. Heather Morrison,  announced Saturday.
 
P.E.I., which has two confirmed cases of COVID-19, both travel-related, will be setting up screening checkpoints at the Confederation Bridge, Charlottetown airport and Souris ferry terminal, she said.
 

P.E.I. chief public health officer Dr. Heather Morrison said the screenings will involve a series of health questions and possibly temperature checks. If people are exhibiting symptoms, their contact information will be taken and they will be directed to next steps for testing. (Ken Linton/CBC)

Higgs told reporters he wasn't given a heads-up about the neighbouring province's decision and it's too early to say if New Brunswick will implement similar measures at its provincial borders.

"We will be discussing this week further measures for cross-Canada travel," he said. "And I think we can get synced-up with other provinces in that regard.

"And I likely will have a discussion with the premier of P.E.I., just to understand the criteria and what he felt was necessary for his province."

Canada-U.S. border restrictions kick in

Meanwhile, the border between Canada and the United States officially closed to non-essential traffic Friday at midnight. The closure is expected to remain in effect for at least 30 days.

Higgs said he has been reassured New Brunswick's Campobello Island residents who intend to travel directly between Lubec and Calais, Maine, for essential services "will not be restricted in those travels.

"Additionally, they will be able to travel from St. Stephen to Campobello Island directly through the United States, as they as they have done for many years," he said.


St. Stephen Mayor Allan MacEachern said his town relies on the traffic flow to and from the U.S. and worries what the 30-day restrictions will bring. (Catherine Harrop/CBC)

New Brunswick towns with border crossings are preparing for less traffic, said St. Stephen Mayor Allan MacEachern. He's worried about what losing that connection to the States will mean for business in his town.

"We really rely on all that traffic," MacEachern said. "I hope we can put this virus to bed as soon as possible, get back to normal, and then help get our tourism back up again."

Under the bilateral agreement, truckers and workers essential to maintaining supply lines are exempt from the travel order.

Also exempt are health professionals and others who work on one side of the border but live on the other. Students who hold valid visas, temporary foreign workers and anyone with valid work responsibilities may also cross.

Relief from excessive prescription refill co-payments

Patients with drug coverage under the province's public drug plans will only be responsible for the initial co-payment on a prescription fill or refill during the state of emergency, effective immediately, said Russell.

For example, a patient with a 90-day prescription will only have a co-payment for the first 30-day fill. There will be no co-payment required for the second and third 30-day fills on the same 90-day prescription, she said.

• Province offers relief on prescription dispensing fees during outbreak

"This applies to all New Brunswickers that are on the public drug plan, including many seniors and low-income individuals."

On Tuesday, the New Brunswick College of Pharmacists had directed all refills to be capped at a 30-day amount to protect drug supplies in response to last weekend's rush of requests for medication, including requests for early refills.

But patients complained that this would triple their costs in dispensing fees.

New self-assessment tool popular

Nearly 5,500 people have already used the new online self-assessment tool launched Friday by the government, according to Russell.

This has helped reduce the number of calls to Tele-Care 811, which has allowed the health-care professionals to assist callers "more promptly," she said.

The information line has been getting about 1,000 calls a day, up from about 200, Russell has said.

'Very likely' measures will extend into May

On Friday night, Higgs told CBC's News Network that government measures to curb the outbreak will "very likely" remain in place until the end of May.

Although difficult to predict, health officials believe the peak of viral infections could still be up to five weeks away, he said.

"We're planning for months," he said.


The New Brunswick government hopes measures introduced early in the outbreak will help slow the spread of the virus. (Government of New Brunswick)

The total of negative tests jumped to 771 Saturday, up from 509 on Friday.

As of Friday mid-afternoon, no new cases had been diagnosed in two days.

But Russell told reporters she expected the number of cases to increase in the coming weeks, as people return home from travelling abroad.

She also expects the number of screening tests to soon increase, with 13 new community assessment centres set up across the province to help ease the burden in emergency departments, she said.



Wondering what the NB COVID-19 testing centres are like? Horizon Health has created a virtual tour. 0:53

Higgs said Friday public reaction to the state of emergency declaration has been "very strong — and positively."

People are asking more questions about what they need to do, he said.

"This information has been available, but people are looking a whole lot more now and getting informed. And we need that. And we need them to pay attention.

"And I'm happy to say I think that they're doing a whole lot more of that because I need everyone's help here."

Retired doctors offer to help

About eight retired physicians — family doctors and specialists — have contacted the College of Physicians and Surgeons of New Brunswick about practising again, if their services are required, according to the registrar.

"At this point no hospital has requested any. My bet is that will change as this goes on," Dr. Ed Schollenberg said in an email Friday.

Once the retired doctors have "specific plans," the college can license them to practise, he said.

P.E.I. expedites physician licensing

Earlier this week, the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Prince Edward Island announced it's expediting the licensing of qualified physicians coming from other provinces and territories to help during the island's outbreak, and for those coming out of retirement.

"At this time of crisis, inter-provincial barriers to physician licensure must not be allowed to stifle the flow of physicians from areas of lesser need to areas of greater need within Canada," president Dr. Matt Kutcher said in a statement.

The college will review applications made under the emergency policy on a daily basis with a goal of same-day licensure, he said, adding "standard requirements may be modified."

"Extraordinary times require extraordinary solutions."

Schollenberg said the New Brunswick college's licensing process is "always expedited."

Lining up reinforcements

Horizon Health has also asked other retirees and students in medical training to help with the COVID-19 outbreak, if needed.

Those interested are asked to fill out an online questionnaire.

The health network said they are working to make sure they have proper staffing resources in place, including deploying internal and external resources.

Grocery chain gives staff raise

In a release Saturday, the union representing the employees of Loblaw Companies Limited said they will receive a $2 per hour raise, retroactive to March 8.

"It's an important recognition for the essential work of our grocery and pharmacy workers during this crisis," said UFCW Local 175 president Shawn Haggerty.

Loblaw Companies Ltd. is also adding Plexiglas shields to checkout counters at its Atlantic Superstore locations. The company has acquired the shields and has begun installing them in stores, according to a statement from executive chairman Galen Weston.

Mount A postpones convocation and reunion

On Saturday, Mount Allison University posted on its website that the in-person convocation ceremony and alumni reunion weekend celebrations scheduled for May 8 to 11 are postponed.

The university said a committee will work on a plan to celebrate the graduating class.

"We are working to ensure degrees are conferred so that graduates can continue to make plans for their futures," said Carolle de Ste-Croix, the university's director of alumni engagement.

"At this time the safety and well-being of our students, faculty, and staff is our top priority."

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David Amos
Methinks I should welcome folks to my world which Higgy and his cohorts in the RCMP know is that of a hermit N'esy Pas?


Adam B

Reply to @David Amos: Methinks "N'esy Pas" is spelled Nes't-ce Pas, Nest-ce Pas?

Pamela Voisine

Not all people are listening. I just saw pictures of people in Edmonston lined up in grocery store and lined up in shoppers drug mart. Not too smart people

Matt Steele

Reply to @Pamela Voisine: .....They probably don't have much choice as folks need food , and prescribed prescriptions , to survive . Folks can either buy in bulk and hoard , which empties the store shelves ; or they can venture out and buy groceries once a week . Kind of a Catch 22 situation for most people .

David Amos 

Reply to @Matt Steele: YUP

David Amos 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks a Catch 22 for you is if you respond and agree with me you are afraid that you will paint yourself into a corner and appear to be some sort of nut. Hence you opt to ignore me and all I hear is crickets coming from your corner while I give you information overload most of which goes "Poof" N'esy Pas? 


























 

Paul Krumm

It seems there are many options from letting the virus run rampant with no controls whatsoever to a complete and total lockdown.Where in this range should we plan? Where is the cost/benefit analysis? Where is the objective study? Non except an uninformed knee jerk reaction. I may be wrong but I feel the most cost beneficial option would be to let it run unfettered.

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Paul Krumm: The World Health Organization disagrees.

Louis Leblanc

Reply to @Paul Krumm: How many dead are you willing to tolerate?

Bob Smith 

Reply to @Paul Krumm: Read about the horror stories coming out of Europe and see what "unfettered" may result in. Lives trump money and business interests.

Repair Guy 

Reply to @Paul Krumm: What makes you feel you are privvy to better information than our gov't? Because you have an internet connection? Our gov't has access to experts...real experts. But, yeah, you go with your feelings.

David Amos 

Reply to @Repair Guy: Dream on if you think Higgy is in your corner

Paul Estey

Reply to @Paul Krumm: thats what happened in Italy....my opinion...unfettered is not an option....
 

Wayne Wright 

Reply to @Bob Smith: except if you are Donald Trump then money is money is money as is his business interest.

Wayne Wright

Reply to @Repair Guy: so much illegitimate info on the net. Higgs is a facts-type guy 

























 

Matt Steele

This Covid-19 crisis will pass as the virus will be brought under control as most all countries are throwing their manpower and finances behind it ; and they are already in the drug testing stage . The bigger problem will be the damage to the economy , and if a full blown recession , or depression , follows . Many Canadians are only one or two pay cheques away from financial ruin , so many may not be able to ride out the storm ; and it is difficult to know how long it will take for the world economy to recover 

Louis Leblanc 

Reply to @Matt Steele: No vaccine for 6-12 months.

SarahRose Werner

Reply to @Matt Steele: Less time than it took us to recover from the Depression of the 1930s.

David Amos

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks you and your buddies should have had no problem finding the missing transcripts and webcasts of this US Banking Committee hearing and connecting the dots to me. If you had bothered to studu my documents you would understand that Higgy has been keeping a lot of things under his hat for many years N'esy Pas?

Full Committee Hearing

Review of Current Investigations and Regulatory Actions Regarding the
Mutual Fund Industry

Date: Thursday, November 20, 2003
Time: 02:00 PM

Topic

The Committee will meet in OPEN SESSION to conduct the second in a
series of hearings on the “Review of Current Investigations and
Regulatory Actions Regarding the Mutual Fund Industry.”

Witnesses

Mr. Stephen M. Cutler
Director - Division of Enforcement
Securities and Exchange Commission

Mr. Robert Glauber
Chairman and CEO
National Association of Securities Dealers

Eliot Spitzer
Attorney General
State of New York

Paul Estey

Reply to @Matt Steele: Well put in terms of finances, damage to economies and recession. On the other hand, if everyone would listen to all the warnings that are being given from all world leaders, this will be brought under control in a timely fashion. As for individuals 1 or 2 paychecks away from ruin, the banks have been warning for years that the level of household debt is out of reach for a lot of canadians, yet they keep on spending. I ,like you, know many people that do very well job wise but they continue to spend beyond their means...now some hard choices will have to be made...

Roy Nicholl  

Reply to @Louis Leblanc wrote:
"No vaccine for 6-12 month"

They have just started lab trials of two candidates ... if they are successful, it will still be closer to 12-18 months before a vaccine is widely available.

Louis Leblanc 

Reply to @Roy Nicholl: I agree. But by that time, this particular strain could be gone. We need a vaccine that somehow recognizes coronaviruses as a whole not just this strain.

Roy Nicholl 

Reply to @Louis Leblanc:
That is rather unlikely as the family of Coronavirus is diverse. There are handful of human coronavirus (I cannot remember if SARS-CoV2 is number seven or eight) and many more non-human (as of yet) members of the family.

Roy Nicholl  

Reply to @Roy Nicholl:
"Family" was probably not the best choice of work above. Coronavirus is actually a subfamily of a much larger family Coronaviridae. 


























 

Lorne Matthews

Kudos to Loblaws for giving staff raises, and well deserved. Impressed by Galen Weston’s commitment to helping us find our way through this. Is time for all leaders to step up.

Mike Connors 

Reply to @Lorne Matthews: only UNIONIZED workers received a raise. Not the ones that are unrepresented. Guess it pays to be unionized.

Mike Connors

Reply to @Mike Connors: ALL Loblaw workers should have received a raise.

Matt Steele

Reply to @Mike Connors: ....Being unionized does not always help . My neighbour is a Substitute Teacher , and pays into the NBTA , and the NBTF ; and they got absolutely nothing when the schools closed down . She said she is off work now without pay , and no sick benefits . She said that the Substitute Teachers are forced to pay into the Union , yet they get ABSOLUTELY NOTHING out of it . Just a big money grab by the teachers union .

Repair Guy 

Reply to @Matt Steele: They get the raise in wages and other benefits the union negotiates at the bargaining table. But other than that they are substitute teachers and don't get a lot of what full time teachers get. Not all that different than lots of other full time vs part time jobs.

David Amos

Reply to @Matt Steele: Surprise Surprise Surprise

Matt Steele 

Reply to @Repair Guy: ....Other than a lot of other full and part time jobs are not forced to pay into a union . I am not totally sure , but she said that she does not receive benefits of any kind ; but has to pay into the union regardless .

David Amos

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Reply to @Matt Steele: Follow Higgy and the money For instance check out how many "Teacher" dudes are on the board of directors of VESTCOR

Mike Connors

Reply to @Matt Steele: Galen Weston gave the raise to unionized workers, so are the unrepresented working any less hard than the unionized ones? Why didn't he give ALL his employees a raise ??

 

Fred Brewer

Reply to @Mike Connors: And how is it that you think Loblaws is allowed to have non-union workers? Unions don't work that way, its all or nothing, excepting management of course.

Wayne Wright  

Reply to @Lorne Matthews: knowing Weston's they are passing the buck in case one of the employees get infected and liability becomes issue. $$$ help, plastic screen btwn cashier/customer helps as do markings leading to cash counter, plus wash stations. Weston does not want any liability issues because they didn't take protective action.

Wayne Wright  

Reply to @Mike Connors: b/c he's a nice guy.

Wayne Wright  

Reply to @Fred Brewer: unions are 'staff desires' if they are convinced they have good treatment by owners then likely staff won't vote for unionization. Pay decent wages, offer a med program, etc is one way to keep unions away plus it is a right in Canada to have a union. 



























 

Matt Steele

It would be nice if Higgs would announce something about the school system . It sounds like the schools are going to be closed down for the rest of March , April , and May , with the students returning in June . If that is the case , will the schools be open through July and August to make up for lost instructional time ; or will the students all be given automatic passes regardless if the work is covered or not ? This question seems to be on the minds of a lot of parents and students .

 

Murielle DiDomenicantonio

Reply to @Matt Steele: For now our children are being protected by their parents as best they can. It takes time for plans to be put in place. We all need to be patient and allow the leaders to prioritize whatever they have to on any one day.

David Amos

Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks at the very least you should say hey to Higgy and the crickets for me N'esy Pas?

Paul Estey

Reply to @Murielle DiDomenicantonio: very well put....patience is required at this time until we get a grasp on this Virus

SarahRose Werner 

Reply to @Matt Steele: At this point, neither Higgs nor anyone else knows what the situation is going to be in two weeks' time, let alone four, six, eight, etc. weeks. Sure everyone would *like* to know. But if anyone has a crystal ball, they're being awfully quiet about it!

Roy Nicholl

Reply to @Matt Steele:
It is too early to be setting such plans. If we are successful in flattening the curve, we may still be dealing with this in August.

Bruce Sanders

Reply to @Matt Steele: and that is the conflict that has been created by the decision to close the schools. Schools never closed in Singapore. My understanding is that to this point there has been no transmission in the schools there.

 

SarahRose Werner
I just got back from the Superstore - still no TP - and want to pass something the clerk at the self checkout area told me. Apparently when people ask for assistance, they don't step back from the register so that the clerk can get to it without crowding in on them. Smarten up and step back, people.


Mike Connors 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: why are the self serve check outs STILL open? How many dirty hands are touching these screens? I was at Walmart a few days ago and NOBODY was wiping the screens after each use. Same goes for Walmart. This will cause this virus to spread quicker than someone being too close to you in the check out line.

SarahRose Werner 

Reply to @Mike Connors: I'd rather use the self serve and disinfect my hands when I'm done than stand in line in the "cattle chutes" at the serviced checkouts.

Mike Connors

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: than YOU are part of the problem.

SarahRose Werner 

Reply to @Mike Connors: How so? I washed my hands when I came into the store. (The Superstore has set up washing stations just inside the entrance for this purpose.) Any germs my hands have picked up since have been acquired inside the store, presumably by others as well as myself. And nothing stops anyone from doing what I'm doing, which is to disinfect my hands afterwards for my 
own protection.

Roy Nicholl 

Reply to @Mike Connors:
If you are really paranoid or cannot be bothered to wash your hands after using the self-checkout, take a pair of disposable nitrile gloves with you when shopping.

You should probable wash your hands again after washing and putting away your groceries at home ... after all someone had to stock those items on the shelves.

Wayne Wright

Reply to @Mike Connors: to quote you "I was at Walmart a few days ago and NOBODY was wiping the screens after each use. Same goes for Walmart."

Brilliant if you were at Walmart then "same goes for Walmart"!

Lou Bell

Reply to @Mike Connors: Nope , wrong again . Good job Sarah ! 

 

Michael durant
Probably catching the virus now in NB liquor stores and cannabis shops.


Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Michael durant: These are necessities of life. Some tend to forget that.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/china-quarantine-coronavirus-saint-john-covid-19-1.5505102

Lessons from quarantine: Saint Johner in China says 'there's light at the end of tunnel'

Woman in quarantine for two months says she learned to appreciate the little things

Hadeel Ibrahim· CBC News· Posted: Mar 22, 2020 8:00 AM AT



Samantha Dean has lived in China for the last three years, and is finally seeing signs of subsiding quarantine rules after two months of strict self-isolation measures. (Submitted by Samantha Dean)

For six weeks, Samantha Dean didn't set foot outside.

She was quarantined alongside her partner in Chongqing, China, a municipality bordering the Hubei province, where the novel coronavirus first started infecting people.

Dean, who was born in New Brunswick, was in her third year living and working in China when strict government measures meant only one person per household could leave, and only to get groceries.

People in masks checked temperatures at shop and apartment building entrances. For two months, Dean said, life was pretty tough.

But the Saint John native said she's seeing the "light at the end of the tunnel" this week. Her favourite restaurant reopened for takeout, and she took her first leisurely walk outside just a few days ago.



As COVID-19 case numbers drop in China, they're rising in many other countries around the world, including Canada. New Brunswick has 17 presumptive and confirmed cases, and the nationwide death toll has reached 13.

Dean made a video to share lessons from quarantine with people back home. In her experience, it got worse, then it got better.

"People are functioning on, like, two extremes," she said in an interview by Skype. "Either they're over–panicking and hoarding supplies or they're not panicking at all and they think it's no big deal."

"You need to find a happy middle."

Panicked questions

Dean said she's been getting questions from family, friends, people she hasn't seen since middle school and complete strangers. Most of them are wondering what's coming for Canada, since China had already gone through the worst of it.

So she made a YouTube video urging people to not take this virus lightly.

"I just felt I should reach out again and give some positivity that things are getting better here," she said. "But also, like, that's up to everybody to get there, right."

She said the biggest lesson she has learned is the importance of social distancing. She said China made quarantine mandatory right away, which is not something Canada would do as easily in a democracy.

• N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province braces for 'next big wave' of coronavirus

• N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Province declares state of emergency

That's why it's important for each person to make sure they're fulfilling their social responsibility to follow the rules, she said, such as not gathering in large numbers and not hoarding food and supplies.

"Like everybody says, you flatten the curve, you'll slow the spread. So our hospitals don't get overwhelmed. So medical workers don't end up sick."

"Be mentally prepared for the fact that it's going to get worse. You're going to see reports of, unfortunately, people passing away," she said. "But just remember that there is a light at the end of the tunnel."

Quarantine in a gated community

Dean said she lives in a gated community, where a ticket system was used. Everybody was required to stay inside, and the ticket would allow people to leave the compound on certain dates to get groceries.

"Only one person per family could leave on these certain dates to get supplies. But mostly we were encouraged to use delivery systems to order our groceries."

Dean said the first first few weeks were the toughest.

"It did cause a lot of panic attacks. I had a lot of anxiety, a lot of sleepless nights."
 

Samantha Dean couldn't leave the house for anything but groceries and supplies for two months, so she killed time by painting. (Submitted by Samantha Dean)

She and her partner had to come to an agreement, as a couple, about how seriously they were going to take the outbreak.

It was "exhausting mentally," she said. And she doesn't doubt this is what a lot of people are going through in her hometown now.

But slowly, life during a pandemic came to feel normal. She stopped obsessing over the news of new deaths every day, because that caused her a lot of anxiety.

• N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Higgs steps up plea for caution as 3 new cases are reported

Being prepared helped.

"Prepare for a month, maybe two weeks to a month of stuff if you can. Freeze some veggies, freeze the meat, like that's enough, but you don't need to buy six packs of toilet paper."

An emotional walk outside

She said quarantine was "totally worth it."

Dean went for a walk without using the ticket system for the first time the other day, she said.

She saw children playing and women dancing in the park.

"It's been great. A bit emotional actually."

Something she didn't think she'd miss so much, is getting a cup of coffee at a cafe. She still can't sit in a dine-in area, but she did grab one to go.

"I learned to appreciate the little things," she said.

About the Author

Hadeel Ibrahim

Hadeel Ibrahim is a CBC reporter based out of Saint John. She can be reached at hadeel.ibrahim@cbc.ca

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Richard Kingston
Living in a gated community in China. Thats a different view.

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Richard Kingston: At lest the lady is well-traveled and able to educate a lo of us.

Marguerite Deschamps

At least the lady is well-traveled and able to educate a lot of us., that is.

David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you are being a little redundant N'esy Pas?

Brian Robertson 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
You speak as if 'well traveled' is a good thing.
That is an archaic concept in this age of carbon reduction coupled with the fact that just as much can be experienced and learned without the need to wander the world.

David Amos 

Reply to @Brian Robertson: Methinks the SANB/liberal dudes never tire of making sick jokes N'esy Pas?

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Michael durant
Probably catching the virus now in NB liquor stores and cannabis shops.

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Michael durant: These are necessities of life. Some tend to forget that.

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @Brian Robertson: Good point! How many do is the question?

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: I hear ya, old hippy!

Samantha Dean 

Reply to @Richard Kingston: Many communities in China's major cities are gated nowadays. The level of security is different at each of course.

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks an old Hillbilly being called a hippy by a snobby SANB/liberal dude pretending to be a woman is awful comical N'esy Pas? 

 

David Amos
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Reply to @Samantha Dean: I must say it is very refreshing to see a real person whom an article is about actually respond in the comment section.  


David Amos
Reply to @Samantha Dean: BINGO  


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: ... if you think so.


David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you and I know it to be so N'esy Pas? 
 

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: You don't even know your "you know what" from your face. Bad example, given that the resemblance is striking.


David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Please try to make your insults understandable or at the very least provide a link to your face so folks can compare it to mine. Methinks everybody would agree that its rather difficult to argue SANB/liberal nonsense no matter what lingo it is offered in N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: Don't get mad, it's worse.

David Amos 

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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: What are your trying to tell me now? That my arse is better looking than your face?

David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks its Too Too Funny that CBC has to consider my reply N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps

I would still give you a medicare card, if I could. You sure need it!

David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: BS

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @David Amos: Cheer up, be happy! ♫♫♫♫
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzdvQOXxRD4♫♫♫♫

David Amos

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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Did I look unhappy as I ran against Higgy and your SANB buddies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZqArRNshSM

David Amos

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks its blatantly obvious who CBC supports N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: you think they like me?


David Amos 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks everybody know that N'esy Pas? For instance I don't smoke dope while you brag of doing so. You post a video to a dumb song teasing me about smoking dope and it goes winging through. I post a video many politicians making statements during the last provincial election and it goes "Poof" 

 

David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:Methinks everybody knows why I am shaking my head as I listen to the Minister of Health Patty Hajdu yapping on CBC right now about radical honesty N'esy Pas?

























Jeff Smith
Ironicly one of the safest places now is China. They have immunity and a medical system geared up for this flu.

Roy Nicholl

Reply to @Jeff Smith:
Only in a portion of the country.

Lou Bell

Reply to @Roy Nicholl: Nope , ALL ! But you're AN EXPERT ! Right ???????

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks everybody is expert these days excepting me You must admit that I must know nothing because you think my head is just a bowl of stuffing N'esy Pas?

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Methinks Higgy, the SANB/liberal dude Deschamps and her buddy Vicky Baby should explain Federal Court File No. T-1557-15 to the folks real slow sometime N'esy Pas?

 


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/roundup-covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-1.5506026

N.B. COVID-19 roundup: P.E.I woman who landed at Moncton airport tests positive

Residents travelling to N.S. or P.E.I ordered to self-isolate

Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Mar 22, 2020 11:59 AM AT



P.E.I.'s chief public health officer Dr. Heather Morrison, said the woman landed at the Greater Moncton Roméo LeBlanc International Airport, and drive home to the island. (Rick Gibbs/CBC)

No new cases of COVID-19 were reported in New Brunswick on Sunday, but a P.E.I woman who landed at the Greater Moncton Roméo LeBlanc International Airport earlier this month has tested positive for the virus.

Dr. Heather Morrison, P.E.I's chief public health officer, confirmed a third case of COVID-19 on the Island during a news briefing Sunday.

A woman in her 20s flew from Toronto to Moncton on March 16. It was the WestJet 3456 flight, which departed from Toronto at 8:35 a.m. and arrived in Moncton at 12:05 p.m.

All people who were on that flight have been asked to self-isolate for two weeks.

The woman who tested positive had flown to Toronto from Spain.


In a news release, the province said there are still 17 cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, including eight confirmed cases and nine presumptive. (Office of the Premier)

Once she arrived at the Moncton airport, she travelled by vehicle to P.E.I.

Morrison said the woman has "very mild symptoms."

She had self-isolated in a Toronto hotel during her travels home, as opposed to staying with friends or family. She went directly into self-isolation upon returning to P.E.I., Morrison said.

17 cases in New Brunswick

In a news release, the Department of Health said there are still 17 cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, including eight confirmed cases and nine presumptive.

These figures are a clarification of two earlier statements by the department, on both Saturday and Sunday, that put the total number of confirmed cases at nine, and the probable cases at eight. The total number of cases, 17, remains unchanged.

A total of 865 tests so far have come back negative for the virus.

• P.E.I. confirms 3rd case of COVID-19

In the same release, the government said everyone entering the province will be given a brochure explaining the measures, including business closures, that Premier Blaine Higgs announced last Thursday night when he declared a state of emergency because of the coronavirus.

The release did not indicate whether New Brunswick might follow in the steps of the Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia governments, which are now requiring people coming into their provinces to isolate themselves for 14 days.

Nova Scotia declared a state of emergency Sunday morning. Anyone who has travelled outside the province, including to neighbouring New Brunswick, will need to self-isolate for two weeks.
 

Government of NB✔@Gov_NB

A message from Premier Blaine Higgs

2:53 PM - Mar 22, 2020

Exceptions will be made for people working in essential services, health care or law enforcement. Trucking is also considered an essential service.

Prince Edward Island made a similar announcement the day before. The Island will be screening anyone entering the province and will also be directing them to self-isolate for 14 days, chief public health officer Dr. Heather Morrison said.


Prince Edward Island will be screening anyone entering the province and will also be directing them to self-isolate for 14 days. (Brian Higgins/CBC)

P.E.I.will be setting up screening checkpoints, including the Confederation Bridge, which is shared with New Brunswick.

These measures have not been put in place in New Brunswick. But CBC News asked  Higgs Sunday if his government will follow suit.

The New Brunswick government reminded the public Sunday that all non-essential travel between Canada and the United States is restricted until further notice.
 

Six new presumptive cases of COVID-19 have been diagnosed in New Brunswick, and two previous presumptive cases have now been confirmed. (Reuters)

"People who are returning to New Brunswick from international travel are required to self-isolate at home for 14 days. This means they must not make any stops, including at the grocery store or pharmacy," the release said.

"They must go directly home and connect with a relative, friend or volunteer to help them with any required errands."

Here is a roundup of other developments.

Someone you know violating rules?

The government was expected to have a phone line and email set up Sunday for people to call "for advice on their concerns of how to help family members and neighbours comply with the state of emergency orders," according to Premier Blaine Higgs.

That phone line will now be available on Monday.

"In the meantime, concerned individuals can remind returning travellers of their responsibility to do their part to keep everyone safe by staying in their homes," the government said Sunday.

Higgs said the phone number and email would be available on the government website and shared through social media

If residents have workplace concerns, they can contact Worksafe NB at 1-800-999-9775.

No briefing from premier today

Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell, the chief medical officer of health, did not hold a news conference today to update the public on the COVID-19 outbreak.

The next news conference will be Monday at 2:30 p.m. in Fredericton.

• After one week of closed schools, parents are relying on online tools

For the past week, Higgs and Russell have scheduled daily briefings about the coronavirus and the constantly changing situation in the province.

The briefings have also been an opportunity for the news media to ask a limited number of questions.
However, the premier did release an online video on Sunday afternoon, reminding people to stay home.

"Our lives have been disrupted and while we will get through this, I know that it's been difficult," he said. "As your government, we're making adjustments constantly to make sure you are kept healthy and safe."

2nd testing centre for Saint John

A second mobile COVID-19 testing centre has been set up in Saint John at the HOPE Wellness Centre on Loch Lomond Road. The new centre opened on the weekend.

CBC has asked Horizon Health why a second location was needed in the city but hasn't received a response.

The other location is at the North End Wellness Centre on Victoria Street. It was moved there from its original intended location at Saint John's Exhibition Park in east Saint John last week.
 

Dr. Jennifer Russell, has emphasized the importance of people taking care of themselves during this stressful time by eating healthy, exercising and getting enough sleep. (Photo: Mike Heenan/CBC)

At the time, Horizon Health vice-president Jean Daigle said the clinic's new location provided a more "central, accessible location to the most vulnerable segments of the city's population."

COVID-19 testing centres are operating in cities and towns across the province.

Here are the locations:

• Moncton at the Moncton City Hospital in the Professional Arts Building parking lot on Macbeath Avenue​​​​​​.
  
• Miramichi at the Miramichi Health Centre (behind the Miramichi Medical Arts Centre) on King George Highway.
  
• Fredericton at the former Daily Gleaner building on Prospect Street.
  
• Plaster Rock at the Tobique Valley Community Health Centre on Main Street.
  

Vitalité Health Network has eight COVID-19 testing centres across the province.
They are located at:

• Grand Falls General Hospital.
  
• Hôtel-Dieu Saint-Joseph de Saint-Quentin.
  
• Dr. Georges-L.-Dumont UHC.
  
• Stella-Maris-de-Kent Hopital.
  
• Edmundston Regional Hospital.
  
• Campbellton Regional Hospital.
  
• Chaleur Regional Hospital.
  
• Tracadie Hospital.
  

All screening is done by appointment only and only after a triage is done by calling Tele-Care 811 or by a family physician.

Church at home 

As the COVID-19 outbreak continues, many churches across the province closed their doors to the public Sunday.

Some have come up with creative ways to speak to their congregations, including using online services such as Zoom, YouTube and Facebook.
 

Moncton Victory Church

21 hours ago

There will be a special segment for the CHILDREN of MVC towards the beginning of our Facebook Live church service!
Make sure that your children are watching for there will be a special announcement! 💥🤩

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Churches like Smythe Street Cathedral in Fredericton are streaming their services online.
Others, such as Corbett Avenue Wesleyan Church and Wilmot United Church in Fredericton, are offering taped versions of services.

COVID-19 by the numbers

In Canada, there are now more than 1,200 confirmed cases, and at least 19 deaths, including four deaths announced at the same Quebec care home.

• Coronavirus: Here's what's happening in Canada and around the world on Sunday

Worldwide, more than 307,000 people have now contracted the novel coronavirus and at least 12,944 have died, according to a tally by Johns Hopkins University. For most, the coronavirus causes only mild or moderate symptoms.

But it can cause more severe illness in others, especially older adults and people with existing health conditions. Some 92,000 people have recovered, mostly in China, where the virus first struck late last year.

Italy on Sunday reported nearly 800 deaths in one day. The country has more than 50,000 cases and 4,825 deaths.

What to do if you have any symptoms?

Symptoms of coronavirus can include fever or cough. In this case, residents should:

• Stay at home.
• Immediately call Tele-Care 811.
  
• Describe symptoms and travel history.
  
• Follow instructions carefully.
  

Remember the self-assessment tool

A new link that offers a COVID-19 self-assessment tool has been added to the Department of Health's website.

The assessment tool has three parts with different coloured flags for the degree of symptoms:

• Red: Need help now
• Yellow:  Need help soon
• Green: You can do the care at home. 

Each category asks you to respond to a series of self-assessment questions and then act based on the answers. This will help New Brunswickers determine if they should call the 811 line. This will also help reduce the volume of calls.

About 5,500 people have already used the new online self-assessment tool launched Friday by the government, according to Russell.

This has helped reduce the number of calls to Tele-Care 811, which has allowed the health-care professionals to assist callers "more promptly,"medical officer Jennifer Russell said.

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Elizabeth Fraser

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Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca

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Matt Steele
Closing the provincial borders to recreational traffic is a wise idea ; Higgs should have done the same thing with Quebec , but he failed to do so for whatever reason .


Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Yet most that tested positive are from the south part of the province.

SarahRose Werner 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: A larger portion of the population is in the southern part of the province. I wouldn't be surprised if Higgs places restrictions on people coming in from Quebec and points west, both by land and by air.

Marguerite Deschamps

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Nothing coming from this CORservative government would surprise me.

SarahRose Werner 

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Yeah, but this would be one of the rare issues on which I agree with Higgs!

Greg Miller

Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Really? You would rather have Vickers at the helm????? Think about it!

Marguerite Deschamps 

Reply to @Greg Miller: Yup!

David Amos

Reply to @Greg Miller: Methinks Higgy, the SANB/liberal dude Deschamps and her buddy Vicky Baby should explain Federal Court File NO t-1557-15 to the folks real slow sometime N'esy Pas?

Dave Shimla
Reply to @Matt Steele: 219 cases in quebec and climbing- close the borders! Marguerite, you can go there to visit as well. :)


David Amos 

Reply to @Dave Shimla: Methinks you will hear nothing but crickets coming from the corners where Steele and Deschamps hide N'esy Pas?

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Methinks another thing all the N.B. party leaders come together on is their contempt towards Me Myself and I N'esy Pas?

 


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/political-panel-covid19-coronavirus-1.5504124

N.B. party leaders come together in time of crisis

In this week's Political Panel, leaders discuss province's response to COVID-19

Jordan Gill· CBC News· Posted: Mar 20, 2020 12:07 PM AT




Premier Blaine Higgs placed the province under a state of emergency Thursday. (Submitted by Government of New Brunswick )

Listen to the full CBC New Brunswick Political Panel podcast by downloading from the CBC Podcast page or subscribing to the podcast in iTunes.

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In normal times it would seem bizarre that the legislature's four political parties could come together and actually agree, but these aren't normal times.

On this week's Political Panel, leaders from all four parties represented in the legislature talked about the shared response to COVID-19.

On Thursday Premier Blaine Higgs announced the province would be placed under a state of emergency.

This means the province now has the power to order businesses to close and keep people from congregating.

Higgs said the decision was made when questions were raised about how seriously New Brunswickers were taking the COVID-19 pandemic.

"We're seeing people still congregating, we're seeing people still going shopping," said Higgs.


There are seven confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick and four presumptive cases, the chief medical officer of health announced Thursday. (Photo: CBC News)

"It's like, all right, is this panic buying…or is this like 'are people taking this seriously'?"

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers, a man who less than a month ago swore to do all he could to bring down the Higgs government, praised the premier for his response to the pandemic.

"Kudos to Premier Higgs and his leadership on this," said Vickers.

All leaders are part of a committee on the COVID-19 response, which has led to some "robust" discussions according to Green Party Leader David Coon.

"I think it's really important that citizens in the province understand that this committee is extremely engaged, very lively," said Coon.

"There's no shrinking violets on that committee."


Green Party Leader David Coon said the all-party committee on COVID-19 has had some robust discussions over the last week. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin said having all parties at the table means the best ideas are put forward.

"It really does give different angles which, you know, gives a greater opportunity to get this right," said Austin.

Higgs commended his fellow party leaders on their leadership.

"I think [it's] been a great testament of what's possible in times of crisis," said Higgs.

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Kevin Cormier
Like many, I too agree that Premier Higgs is doing a good job. Now we just need to "enforce" the declaration and fine a few people/businesses.


Kevin Cormier 

Reply to @Kevin Cormier: also, why are there 4 smaller zones up north yet 3 large zones in the south? Really 2 zones in the north is all that is needed.

SarahRose Werner

Reply to @Kevin Cormier: These are the health regions that have been set up for decades. The infrastructure to track and communicate information depends on the existing zones. Right now isn't a good time to be changing them around.

David Amos

Reply to @Kevin Cormier: Methinks everybody knows that your hero Higgy and I are political foes. That simple fact caused Higgy, his minions and all his political cohorts no matter what party they are members to go out of their way to ignore my well being. The boss of the PANB even laughed at the fact that Higgy refused to remove the "Stay" the liberals put on my Medicare Card years ago and I had to pay the emergency room bills and the doctor fees out of pocket. Hence I have every right to sue Higgy et al for their poor decisions with regards to my personal Health Care N'esy Pas?

Michel Forgeron
I’ve only voted PC with two leaders in the past – Hatfield (NB), Mulroney (Fed). But I must admit Higgs is doing a good job handling this situation.


David Amos 

Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Who cares how you voted? 

 

Shawn Tabor
It Business as usual in the town of Sussex, take a drive through the town. Everything is open. Restaurants have their open signs on, variety stores are open. Feels like, maybe a Sunday at best. Check it out. LOL.

Lou Bell

Reply to @Shawn Tabor: They're " entitled " !

David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: So you say 

 

Billy Sturgeon
It’s great to see everyone getting along for the betterment of our province. It’s unfortunate it takes a crisis to make this happen. Mr Higgs is a true leader and Mr Coon is also a decent man. I love to see Vickers squirm around now.


Pierre Cyr 

Reply to @Billy Sturgeon: Lets just hope the other leaders can prevent Higgs from making anymore mistakes like telling healthcare workers to got straight to work before March 13th. A decision made to save on overtime no doubt. Once a penny pincher for the Irvings always a penny pincher.

Pierre Cyr 

Reply to @Pierre Cyr: To be clear those were healthcare workers coming back from abroad on vacation.

Paul Estey

Reply to @Billy Sturgeon: I agree with most everything you have stated Billy. I truly believe that all leaders have qualities that can be brought to the table on other aspects relating to our Province to move this Province forward on issues other than Covid19. Maybe trying to discuss and collaborate on these other issues instead of bickering and trying to get the upper hand would truly put us on a better footing nationally.

Lou Bell 

Reply to @Billy Sturgeon: No , you're not being clear or honest . He said no such thing and one should be ashamed for falsely doing so 

Lou Bell

Reply to @Pierre Cyr: Those were workers who had to cross into Maine for work related business and DIDN'T need to isolate . Comprehension isn' t really that hard Pete !

David Amos

Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks it strange that you post such things so easily in light of the fact that cognitive dissonance appears to be your only forte N'esy Pas?

Brian Robertson
Not being able to criticize the PCs must just be killing the Liberals.

Brian Robertson

Reply to @Josef Blow:
Did I hit a nerve their Bro?
Or is cabin fever starting to get you down?

Josef Blow 

Reply to @Brian Robertson: No feathers ruffled here, « Bro ». Simply bewildered at how trite and insignificant some low-wattage peeps can be.

Brian Robertson

Reply to @Josef Blow:
Such condescension from an out of power liberal.
A little humility would go a long way towards Liberals gaining some votes.

David Amos

Reply to @Brian Robertson: Methinks you should not take a dude with such a name seriously N'esy Pas?

Lou Bell
Good to see all are on board . Higgs budget had won approval and was going to be approved with the Green leaders approval whether the crisis was here or not , so good to see all leaders acknowledge he won fair and square and time for all to suck it up and tackle the crisis head on.


David Amos 

Reply to @Lou Bell: Dream On

New guidelines advise against taking Aspirin to prevent heart disease, first stroke

March 23, 2020, 6:13 pm

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New guidelines advise against taking Aspirin to prevent heart disease, first stroke

ASA still 'strongly recommended' for those with stroke, heart disease history

The Canadian Press· Posted: Mar 23, 2020 1:38 PM ET


New guidelines from the Heart and Stroke Foundation say a daily dose of Aspirin should no longer be taken as a preventative measure, though it's still recommended for people with a history of heart disease. (Patrick Sison/Associated Press)

A new guideline from Heart and Stroke Foundation says a daily dose of Aspirin could do more harm than good for those at low risk of stroke or heart disease.

The recommendations published Monday in the Canadian Medical Association Journal say acetylsalicylic acid (ASA) should not be taken as a preventive measure for those who do not have a history of stroke, heart or vascular disease.

That's a major shift from the decades-old practice calling for a daily, low dose of ASA, which in addition to Aspirin is also known by the brand names Entrophen and Novasen.

• Don't take Aspirin to prevent first heart attack or stroke, Alberta physicians advise

• Colchicine cuts odds of new heart attack, stroke in heart attack survivors

The Heart and Stroke writing group, chaired by McGill University neurologist Dr. Theodore Wein, developed the guideline after strong new research linked daily ASA doses to serious side effects such as internal bleeding.

Wein says the new recommendations only apply to those who have not had a stroke, heart condition or peripheral artery disease.

He says it is still "strongly recommended" that anyone with a history of stroke, or heart or vascular disease continue to take low-dose, daily ASA to prevent another event, if their doctor has prescribed the treatment.

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Scott Bullerwell
WHAT? There is actually 'other' news besides Covid-19. The CBC is kidding, right?

David Amos

Reply to @Scott Bullerwell: Nope They ain't joking A thread just went "Poof" for no reason whatsoever other than malicious political reasons 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Micheal McLoughlin
For those who might be wondering why Aspirin is capitalised, it's because it's a brand name for ASA sold by the Bayer (read "buyer") corporation of Germany -- except in the United States, which confiscated all of Bayer's assets during World War I; including Bayer Aspirin.. So, in the USA, all brands of ASA are sold as (lower case) "aspirin" because it's not a brand name in that country. If you say 'ASA' in the USA, most people won't know what you're talking about.

Last time I checked (it's been a while), the Bayer brand of aspirin sold in the USA was owned by the Sterling Drug Company.


David Amos 

Reply to @Micheal McLoughlin: Methinks its interesting that you can say Bayer and I can't N'esy Pas? 

 

David Amos
Reply to @Micheal McLoughlin: Methinks folks may enjoy checking out page 26 of a certain document Anyone can Google the following N'esy Pas?

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Sally Casswell
Big pharma had absolutely NO research to support their original claim and has never done any. As well there's NO research that shows an aspirin ever saved anyone's life who suffered a heart attack. Without question one of the most dangerous scams BIG pharma's engaged in as it gave false hope. This immoral campaign gives every reason to literally never trust this pharmaceutical business and I seriously doubt any other is more honest as they all put products on the market without a spec of research to support their claims.

Micheal McLoughlin

Reply to @Sally Casswell: Your perception of this story is off the mark, along with your perception of the problem. 1) People who have a history of heart disease are still recommended to take low dose ASA on a daily basis, because the natural blood-thinning properties of ASA override other concerns, 2) The blood-thining properties of ASA have alwasy been perfectly well-known, and that is why taking it can indeed be helpful if you have trouble with your circulatory system that can affect your heart, lungs and brain, 3) The negtive side effects of ASA have also been well-known for decades, the worst of them being life-threatening allergy to ASA.

THe article addresses the problem of bleeding that can be caused by ASA, combined with the delay in clotting - because of ASA's blood-thinning properties. The internal bleeding mostly occurs in the stomach - which is why it is so important to drink a full glass of water or milk when you take ASA; but if you take low dose ASA on a daily basis when you have no reason to use a blood thinner, you will have ASA running through your veins and arteries 24/7, and that can have a corrosive effect.

As to "Big Pharma," all they did in most countries was promote pre-existing knowledge of the blood-thinning properties of ASA. If they were able to get away with saying more than that, blame the pertinent government for insufficient regulation of advertising - and advocate for that government to strengthen the rules on what product manufacturers can and cannot say. Complaining about the product manufacturer and/or marketer might *feel* good but *does* no good. All marketers of all products will make any claim they can to make a sale - so the onus is on the buyer and the government to take steps to ensure truth in advertising.

 

 

David Amos

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Reply to @Micheal McLoughlin: Methinks you may enjoy checking out page 26 of this document N'esy Pas?

https://www.scribd.com/doc/265620671/Cross-Border-Txt

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Oh My My Methinks Bayer Corp won't appreciate this revelation N'esy Pas?

Steve Haywood

Content disabled Before I could read it

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Michael Harris 

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Reply to @Steve Haywood: You must be a liberal or even worst, an NDP'er.....

Fritz Mahngoy

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Reply to @David Amos: did you mean n'est ce pas?

David Amos

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Reply to @Michael Harris: Methinks you should Google me before you embarrass yourself further N'esy Pas?

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-coronavirus-outbreak-premier-blaine-higgs-1.5506516

N.B. COVID-19 roundup: Premier to address outbreak today

Premier and province's chief medical officer of health to speak with reporters about the outbreak at 2:30 p.m.

Elizabeth Fraser· CBC News· Posted: Mar 23, 2020 11:29 AM AT


The government is expected to have a phone line and email set up today for people seeking advice on how to help family members and neighbours comply with the state of emergency orders.

The phone line was supposed to be available on Sunday but the start day was moved to Monday. The line didn't appear to have been set up in the morning.

As of Sunday, there were still 17 cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, including eight confirmed cases and nine presumptive. According to the government website, 947 tests have come back negative.

Meanwhile, a woman in her 20s flew from Toronto to Moncton on March 16. It was the WestJet 3456 flight, which departed from Toronto at 8:35 a.m. and arrived in Moncton at 12:05 p.m. P.E.I. had three cases

All people who were on that flight have been asked to self-isolate for two weeks.

Premier to speak with reporters

Premier Blaine Higgs and Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, will speak to reporters at 2:30 p.m. in Fredericton.

They did not hold a news conference to update the public on the COVID-19 outbreak on Sunday.
Here is a roundup of other developments.

Shelters prepare for spike in domestic violence

Many people in New Brunswick are hunkering down and staying safe inside their homes.

For some, staying inside the home isn't safe.

"We see a lot of people talking right now about the pandemic and how we're really fortunate that we have homes to be in, and that we have the basic necessities of life, but for victims it's a prison," said Kristal LeBlanc, executive director at the Beausejour Family Crisis Resource.


The province says there are still 17 cases of COVID-19 in New Brunswick, including eight confirmed cases and nine presumptive. (Office of the Premier)

Domestic violence centres are adjusting their approach to helping survivors of domestic abuse by offering services over the phone or through texting.

• 'Love will conquer all': COVID-19 threatens wedding plans for couples, businesses

Advocacy groups are warning the number of assaults could rise during the pandemic, and shelters are preparing for an increase in demand.

Since many shelters rely on fundraising events, which have been cancelled for the foreseeable future, LeBlanc is worried about having enough money to meet an increased demand.


Dr. Jennifer Russell, has emphasized the importance of people taking care of themselves during this stressful time by eating healthy, exercising and getting enough sleep. (Photo: Mike Heenan/CBC)

For those experiencing domestic violence, LeBlanc recommends finding a safe space in the home and using their phone to reach out to the local domestic violence shelter.

Guards posted at some open stores

The section of Sobeys where customers can buy items in bulk is covered in plastic to prevent people from purchasing them. (Maria Burgos/CBC News)

Stores like Costco and Shoppers Drug Mart in Fredericton have security guards standing outside, limiting the number of people inside at one time.

Customers are asked to wait outside and wait their turn.

Staying inside could ward off stiffer rules

Emergency measures organizations across the province are reminding people to physically keep their distance from others.

Conrad Landry, the incident commander for Moncton's Emergency Measures Organization, said he feels most residents are heeding government 's call to stay indoors.

• Essential workers lose emergency daycare, despite COVID-19 plan

"Today is going to be the biggest test," Landry said.

"We don't want to go to the level of starting to report people and sending the police and giving fines and charges."

New Brunswick has not yet instituted a curfew or a ban on going for a walk outside, as other cities and countries have.

Filing court documents

The Court of Queen's Bench is making changes to how it accepts filing documents for cases during COVID-19.

Documents can be sent by mail, courier, fax, electronic filing by email, or by leaving the documents in a secure box at the courthouse.

All payments must be made by credit card by calling the office.

Anyone having to file petitions or applications for divorce and actions related to it and bankruptcy documents will also have to follow the same guidelines or leave the documents in a secured box at the justice building in Fredericton.

Tracey K. DeWare, chief justice of the Court of Queen's Bench, said the processing of court documents may take longer than usual because the courts are operating with a reduced staff.

The change is effective immediately.

The court had already postponed all jury trials because of the outbreak.

What to do if you have any symptoms?

Symptoms of coronavirus include fever, cough or breathlessness. In this case, residents should:

• Stay at home.
• Immediately call Tele-Care 811.
  
• Describe symptoms and travel history.
  
• Follow instructions carefully.
  

Remember the self-assessment tool

A new link that offers a COVID-19 self-assessment tool has been added to the Department of Health's website.

The assessment tool has three parts with different coloured flags for the degree of symptoms:

• Red: Need help now
• Yellow:  Need help soon
• Green: You can do the care at home. 

Each category asks you to respond to a series of self-assessment questions and then act based on the answers. This will help New Brunswickers determine if they should call the 811 line. This will also help reduce the volume of calls.

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Elizabeth Fraser

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Elizabeth Fraser is a reporter/editor with CBC New Brunswick based in Fredericton. She's originally from Manitoba. Story tip? elizabeth.fraser@cbc.ca

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103 Comments






John Grail
I think there is a song that seems fitting right now. "We are living in a police state. Situation's getting grave"....


David Amos

Reply to @John Grail: I can think of pile of Bob Dylan tunes that apply but I still favour Puddles version of Mad World as I watch Higgy yap 

 

David Amos
Methinks a lot of folks would laugh if they knew what my Yankee wife called the time of day that Higgy makes his big announcement Howver if I tried to tell ya i have no doubt whatsoever it would go "Poof" N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: Maybe there is time for nap while we wait?

David Amos

Reply to @David Amos: Hmm both the ladies doing sign language are not bilingual? 

 

SarahRose Werner
In other news Labatt has just announced it's switching production from beer to hand sanitizer. I'm calling on Moosehead to do the same!


David Amos 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you want to upset a lot of Maritimers N'esy Pas?

Derek Grant

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: $$$$ for N95 mask orders (from China) would be best and seeing that this more a SARS, airborne transmissible virus.

John Pokiok
I have no problem with this rat line. If sick people or ones who have traveled wait it out for two weeks we can all get out of this and bring things back to normal. It's not much to ask don't infect others and stay put.


SarahRose Werner 

Reply to @John Pokiok: I just hope the government has a list of people they know to be either sick or in quarantine due to travel and doesn't go chasing down every phone call they get because someone with nothing better to do spotted someone else going out for a walk.

David Amos

Reply to @John Pokiok: What your neighbours drop a dime on you? Methinks you would change your tune then N'esy Pas?

John Grail 

Reply to @John Pokiok: Why don't people who are concerned quarantine themselves?

David Amos

Reply to @John Grail: BINGO

John Pokiok 

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Reply to @David Amos: my neighbor would not drop a dime on me because I'm taking this seriously unlike you and couple of other narcissists who think this is a joke. Just isolate yourself if you have traveled lives are at stake here.

David Amos

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Reply to @John Pokiok: Methinks you should have read my earlier comments before insulting me some more N'esy Pas? 

 

Thomas Black
Welcome to the dystopian future!


SarahRose Werner 

Reply to @Thomas Black: I keep thinking of Ray Bradbury's story "The Pedestrian," first published in 1951.

David Amos

Reply to @Thomas Black: I repeat Welcome to the Circus 

 

Gil Murray
Since my nearest neighbor is a cow pasture away, I feel fairly comfortable we will not be within more than a few meters of each other. I think telling people not to go outside is ridiculous. Telling them to not interact closer than the recommended distance for transmission is good sense. Research seems to suggest the virus currently has transmission limits. Use common sense and don't report neighbors for walking outside because they have made more noise than you like in the past.


David Amos 

Reply to @Gil Murray: Methinks you should ask Higgy if the cows can catch the virus and bring it to your door N'esy Pas?

Fred Brewer 

Reply to @Gil Murray: If I know my neighbour has a confirmed case of covid 19 and has been ordered to self-quarantine and I see him leave his property then I will report him. It is way too big a risk to leave it unreported. Why should anyone else suffer because this fool cannot follow simple rules designed to protect others and save lives?

Gil Murray 

Reply to @Fred Brewer: When you added "if I know my neighbour has a confirmed case of covid 19 and has been ordered to self-quarantine", you changed the parameters of the situation. So if you are staying inside and minding your own business how would you know that situation exists? No offence but I am glad I don't live near you. I tend to mind my own business.

Fred Brewer  

Reply to @Gil Murray: It's a small town Gil. People talk. And who said I am staying inside? There is no order for healthy people to stay inside, at least not yet. We can go for walks as long as we maintain social distance. We can go buy groceries etc as long as we are not showing symptoms.
Now is the time to make it your business Gil. Otherwise covid will overwhelm our hospitals and more people will die. No offence but I am glad I don't live near you either.

SarahRose Werner

Reply to @Fred Brewer: You raise an interesting point, Fred. Theoretically, COVID would spread faster in a city, where people live more closely together, than it would in a small town. But it's precisely in a city where people are less likely to know who's been travelling recently, who's ill, etc. I know the other four tenants in my building haven't been travelling recently because I've seen them around pretty often - no one vanished for a week or two. I'm not sure I would know if someone had been sick or not, though. And people in surrounding buildings? No idea as to what they've been up to recently. Therefore reporting in cities is, I would guess, less likely to be accurate than in small towns.

Matt Steele
Not totally sure ; but I suspect that Higgs wants to use the reporting line to detect travelers who have returned to Canada , but refuse to self isolate for the required 2 weeks . Sadly , it seems to have come to the point that some people who have returned to N.B. from away are so self centered that they refuse to self isolate ; and now govt. enforcement is required so that these folks do not spread the virus to others .

SarahRose Werner

Reply to @Matt Steele: That may be, but based on some of the comments I've heard on this site, I suspect that some people may try to use it to report others as well.

David Amos

Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks Higgy is way past too late. In my humble opinion the onus was always on the individual to protect themselves from a nasty bug. Since 2008 when the economy took a nosedive after the RCMP falsely arrested if I caught a common cold I was in deep doo doo because of my poor health, no medicare and my homelessness since 2005. Trust that the cops would still love to arrest me in order to shut me up but everybody knows that I have done nothing wrong. Whereas I have grown accustomed to living like a hermit for 15 long years nothing much has changed in my life in recent months. As I watch the people who laughed at me deal with the deep doo doo they put themselves in its my turn to laugh N'esy Pas?

Terry Hughes

Reply to @David Amos: You should be arrested! ....... and muzzled

David Amos 

Reply to @Terry Hughes: Say Hey to Higgy for me will ya? 

 

SarahRose Werner
Note the caption in the photo of Dr Russell: "Dr. Jennifer Russell, has emphasized the importance of people taking care of themselves during this stressful time by eating healthy, ***exercising*** and getting enough sleep."


David Amos 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I got the "sleep" part covered in spades but I can't walk 10 yards without being out of breath No thanks to Higgy et al. denying my right to Medicare.

SarahRose Werner
Nova Scotia Premier Scott McNeil explained it well: "Walks should be for exercise, not to socialize."


David Amos 

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks many folks have read the email I got from Premier STEPHEN McNeil's Justice Minister inviting me to sue Nova Scotia N'esy Pas?

Mac Isaac
So this is what we've come to: reporting our fellow citizens for not following the most elemental precautions. Increasing paranoia about such draconian actions, which are apparently becoming necessary, exacerbates an already alarming situation. My own is no different than many of yours...as a senior I found myself asking advice about my simple daily walks through my neighbourhood during which I don't go near anyone; I don't visit anyone; I just leave my home, alone, walk and return home. As my late wife would say, "Just to blow the stink off!" But because of the inconsiderate actions of the few there's the potential I, and many, many others, might soon not be able to do even that!
Will this inevitably result in "wardens" such as those we had during WWII who went about neighbourhoods looking for lights seeping through curtains. I hope not!

SarahRose Werner

Reply to @Mac Isaac: I walk to the Superstore to buy groceries as needed. I wonder if my neighbours are going to report me for doing that!

Wayne Wright

Reply to @Mac Isaac: sadly what you say is true. I personally will take my hour walk outside remaining well clear of others regardless. The disease is not an airborne disease according to Dr. Fauci & Gupta.

Wayne Wright

Reply to @SarahRose Werner: at this point no! Hell Canada itself is not in a declared Emergency although Provinces have done so. Don't know why we haven't but sill allow Chinese & Iran flights at least as last Friday.

David Amos

Reply to @Mac Isaac: Methinks many would agree that you are lamenting about closing the barn door after the horse ran off N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Reply to @Wayne Wright: I read the news today did you?

Go home and stay home, Trudeau tells Canadians as government warns of COVID-19 enforcement measures

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Fredericton police prepared to arrest those violating emergency declaration order

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-police-arrest-emergency-measures-1.5507658

Fredericton police prepared to arrest those violating emergency declaration order

Police Chief Roger Brown said officers will take measured approach but has power to make arrests if needed

Philip Drost· CBC News· Posted: Mar 24, 2020 8:14 AM AT




Fredericton police have not arrested anyone for not complying with the emergency measures declared in New Brunswick last week. (Daniel McHardie/CBC)

Fredericton police officers have the authority to arrest people who violate the province's emergency declaration order, says police Chief Roger Brown.

"If someone is clearly going against what the chief medical officer has asked, we do have provisions in the Criminal Code," said Brown.

"We have done our research with respect to our authorities. We do have the authority to arrest people if need be, and we are in a position to do that and we will do that if we think the situation warrants it."

But Brown said officers will take a "measured approach" when dealing with people breaking their self-isolation and those refusing to practise social distancing. He said the first step is education.

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"You first educate, and then you try to encourage," said Brown.

The province declared a state of emergency on March 19 in response to the COVID-19 outbreak, telling people to stay at home, and that all non-essential businesses must close.

The province has 17 confirmed cases of the illness.

No arrests so far

Brown said they have had calls of people not complying with the emergency measures order. He said so far, no arrests have been made.

"We have not had any major issues with respect to non-compliance at all," said Brown.


Chief Roger Brown of the Fredericton police, said there will be times when officers won't be able to respect the order to keep a two-metre distance from other people.

"The ones we have spoken to have complied. Sometimes it's an educational component."
Brown said the province's new information line, which will allow people to report non-compliance, is important as it frees up 911 lines for emergency calls.

COVID-19 preparation

Brown said the force is taking extra precautions against COVID-19. Officers have protective gear to wear, and decontamination zones back at the station. Police vehicles are also being disinfected.

"But it goes without saying that there are times that we are going to be put in a position where we have to go in to less than a six-feet area, and we will, and when we do we will do so protected and cautiously," said Brown.

If there is risk of potential infection, that member is pulled from duty, tested, and quarantined.
If an officer does get COVID-19, shifts have been arranged in such away that the force will still be able to operate, even if members have to go into quarantine.

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42 Comments





David Amos
Methinks Roger Brown and his RCMP buddies have a few things to settle with me in court perhaps they should try falsely arresting me again N'esy Pas?

Fred Dee

Reply to @David Amos: really... not everything is about you!!

David Amos 

Reply to @Fred Dee: Methinks you should ask your hero Roger Brown, and his lawyer buddy Rob Moore about when we first crossed paths in the Byron Prior matter not long after I ran in the election of the 39th Parliament in Fat Fred City. Failing that you can always read my lawsuit against the Queen on file in Federal Court in Fat Fred City before you opt to insult me further N'esy Pas?

Matt Steele
Arrest people with Covid-19 , and then what ? Take them back to the police station so that the infected person can spread it to all the cops ; or maybe put them in jail ; and spread the virus to all the guards and inmates ; not to mention the Court House staff . It doesn't sound like a very well thought out plan .


Tim Morton 

Reply to @Matt Steele: in other places they are giving fines. It would make sense to give fines in place of jail. Perhaps the jailtime would come after COVID-19.

John Grail 

Reply to @Matt Steele: Nothing like short-sighting government use of force.

Fred Dee

Reply to @John Grail: just wait till executions start!! Pandemic can cause very BAD emotional and psychological issues to surface.... life can get crazy if things are not controlled early

John Grail 

Reply to @Fred Dee: It wouldn't surprise me. This whole thing is a slippery slope.

David Amos

Reply to @Fred Dee: Methinks it time for your nap N'esy Pas?