Trudeau's verbal porridge and serene smile have carried him along. Until now: Neil Macdonald
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JOHN CHUCKMAN
"Trudeau's verbal porridge"
My God, that's a strikingly accurate phrase.
Tom McLean
@JOHN CHUCKMAN
Porridge is good for you
Albert Rising
@Tom McLean Too much porridge just results in a lot of crap.
Albert Rising
@Tom McLean I’d hate to be at one of your dinner parties.
Tom McLean
@Albert Rising
Doubt it.. we have lots of fun
Robin Trower
@JOHN CHUCKMAN
I love it when Neil unloads with both barrels.
More please.
Guy Stone
@JOHN CHUCKMAN i appreciate CBC for this article. Fairness is important - mix up positive and negative viewpoints of all political parties
John Dirlik
@Robin Trower
Neil did a masterful job as CBC’s foreign correspondent in Jerusalem, earning him in Canada the wrath of that lobby that doesn’t exist, for that country that cannot be criticized.
David Amos
@John Dirlik I agree
David Amos
@JOHN CHUCKMAN I liked this one obviously because methinks that lawyer and her buddy Joly will be the nest to bail on Trudeau N'esy Pas?
"A few hours later, at a rally in Toronto to gin up support for a carbon tax, Trudeau made a manic entrance, grinning and high-fiving and flesh-pressing and trying to look happy, before grabbing Environment Minister Catherine McKenna in an awkward hug, and, puzzlingly, yelling, at a Liberal rally, "Are there any Liberals in the house?"
Adam Gajewski
@JOHN CHUCKMAN Justin Trudeau simply doesn't have the intellectual acuity to cope - that is coup de grâce.
Jan Lenova
@JOHN CHUCKMAN anything is better that the sludge "porridge" of Scheer and the 3 Little Bears, from the Conservatives.
Jan Lenova
@JOHN CHUCKMAN wow, the most liked Con post, is also the least deepest. -no surprise.
Trevor James
@Jan Lenova strawman argument, article is about JT
Jan Lenova
@Trevor James so any "porridge" is a meaningful discussion.? Article is about JT, your's is just more deflection and pomp.
David Amos
@Jan Lenova "just more deflection and pomp.deflection and pomp."
Speaking of deflection I am watching Trudeau's buddy Gerry taking to parliament right now if he says 9000 jobs anymore methinks he will set a record about deflecting an issue N'esy Pas?
Jessica Ma
Canadians need someone they can respect representing them to the world, not a narcissistic boy that has poor communication skills and twisted ideals.
Neil Gregory
@Jessica Ma
True! Unfortunately he isn't that much different from Harper or Scheer or their counterparts at the Provincial level, Ford and Kenny.
mo bennett
@Jessica Ma look Ma, no socks either.
M K
@Jessica Ma
Vast majority of Canadians are still taking a back seat to rural riding voting structure. Conservatives would not even be taken seriously as party if the Canadian vote represented the population.
John Sollows
@Jessica Ma
Stephen Harper?
Andrew Scheer? Doug Ford? Jason Kenney?
Justin isn't perfect but please!
Taylor Sutherland
@John Sollows That’s what worries me the most... as bad as Trudeau is, the alternatives are downright scary.
Brandon Hoffman
@M K oh, that would be amazing, Quebec and Toronto deciding everything that happens in Canada. They'd probably come up with a plan to tax Canada into being taken seriously, haha
Daniel McKay
@Jessica Ma I'm interested to see what round 3 will present. Bernier's timing may turn out to be impeccable - no trust in the Cons or Libs, the Dips are run by a man who won't publicly place his religion behind his politics, the Greens are still trying to be taken seriously by non-greennecks. The PPC is a clean slate, unproven to be the same old party. My gut tells me they will prove to be the least unpalatable choice on the ballot, for many voters.
Kevin Delaney
@Jessica Ma I often wonder who Team St Petersburg or Team Trump would like to see as Canada's PM. Team St Petersburg does not care really as Canada is just a nothing burger to Vladimir, more a training ground for his pro / con pot stirring posting team. Now, team Trump & his brand of Republicans... that is a different matter. That lot has issues with Nations who do have a socialist attitude towards the welfare of its citizens and Team Trump can only wish for an ultra Conservative Canadian government... which is... Never Going To Happen.
Louren Organzo
@Daniel McKay "My gut tells me they will prove to be the least unpalatable choice on the ballot, for many voters."
Maybe so but I think that all that will do is ensure the Liberals make it back in
Tony Walters
@Jessica Ma "Canadians need someone they can respect representing them to the world" Surely you can't be talking about Andy, so who did you have in mind?
Daniel McKay
@Louren Organzo That's entirely possible, we'll see how far the Liberals fall before election day.
Gorden Feist
@Jessica Ma "Canadians need someone they can respect representing them to the world, not a narcissistic boy that has poor communication skills and twisted ideals."
But I'm guessing you would be fine with Trump.
David Amos
@Jessica Ma Methinks that Mr Macdonald can claim that Trudeau's charm carried him along but everybody knows his buddy Gerry Butts carried the weight and pulled his strings N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
@John Sollows "Justin isn't perfect but please!"
Methinks your point is that its ok to be corrupt because the others are worse N'esy Pas?
Jan Böhmermann
@Jessica Ma
And who would that be?
David Amos
@mo bennett YO MO Methinks you are enjoying the grilling of Gerry Butts as much as I N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@John Sollows Methinks its too bad so sad folks can't read my reply to you N'esy Pas?
Paul Reed
Trudeau started with an open floor, and has painted himself into a corner. It’s just a matter of time now.
Tom McLean
@Paul Reed
Its always a matter of time
Jack Cochrane
@Paul Reed soon after he was elected I told many friends and relatives to give him enough rope and he will hang himself and that's exactly what happened. He was never qualified to handle a majority government and Canada really, really needs to look seriously at it's system of government that lacks the checks and balances necessary to allow such a system of democracy. Far too much power given to a group far too unqualified.
Michael Flinn
@Paul Reed Not true - Trudeau was the problem from the beginning - and we elected him anyway - out of pique.
Kevin Delaney
@Paul Reed Agree. A personal lack of political depth and a failed PMO got him to a self-dug-hole that he cannot dig himself out of. In fact he will most likely dig it deeper. So where does Canada go from here?? In my opinion Canada's best outcome is a minority government coming out of Oct 2019. Force a Leadership change in all 3 Parties. Force a policy review in all three Parties. Our smaller political Parties are narrowly focused and incapable of total perspective government. Our 3 larger Parties are a mess. The NDP are fractured beyond a national unified platform hope. The Conservatives need to find the word... Progressive again. The Liberals need to find truth and honesty. Canada needs a re-boot re our politics.
David Amos
@Kevin Delaney I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Craig Sweeney
All virtue, no substance. This whole fiasco is devolving into a huge embarrassment for this Country. In the end we all lose.
Tom McLean
@Craig Sweeney
You are so wrong, its hard to think of where to start
Ed Norton
@Craig Sweeney Of course, the big question is whether Andrew Scheer is prime ministerial material.
And of course, their is the issue of whether Conservative policies and ideology are palatable to the majority of the Canadian electorate.
I am self-defined centrist but lean progressive. I am not, and may never be ready, to vote for the Conservative party.
Mike Scott
@Ed Norton I will take him over the clown show in town now.
Travis Ladwin
@Mike Scott
Don't pretend like it would have been different no matter who was leading the Cons.
Kevin Delaney
@Craig Sweeney The virtue was a sham.
Gorden Feist
@Craig Sweeney "In the end we all lose."
We certainly will if the end result is another Conservative government.
David Amos
@Craig Sweeney "In the end we all lose."
Methinks as an Independent candidate who has lost in 6 elections thus far I have the right to say that democracy and justice are not about political party leaders losing their masks of virtue N'esy Pas?
Stephen David
His arrogant smirk is gone lately....I guess reality is sinking in hard. No majority for you!!
Juergen Hesse
@Stephen David No majority for the Conservatives, because they are going to be hammered in Quebec for the next 10 Years.
M K
@Stephen David In reality, conservatives would never ever win anything even remotely close to a majority if Trudeau would have made sure the Canadian popular vote represented our country...as it should. Unfortunately Canadians have to take a back seat to the usual foreign lobby the conservatives kiss up with promises of moving an embassey for, like puppet Trump.
Mike Scott
@M K haha that was a broken promise by your hero.
David Amos
@Stephen David Heres hoping
Ric Ferriby
the endless verbiage goes with the constant channel changes and Canadian peoplekind are getting tired of being fed meaningless political mush.
David Amos
@Ric Ferriby YUP
Al Kap
I always cringe when I hear Trudeau speak. Reading this article brought back to mind much cringing.
David Fraser
@Al Kap CBC radio news,, a.k.a. the Liberal Cheerleaders, gets turned off in this house when St Justin comes on.
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David Amos
@Al Kap "I always cringe when I hear Trudeau speak."
Methinks a lot of his peoplekind are are cringing as his buddy Gerry Butts speaks to parliament right now N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Al Kap "Reading this article brought back to mind much cringing."
Methinks if folks could read all the comments they would cringe even more N'esy Pas?
Roger Andrews
Nailed it!!!
Very insightful article.
Taylor Sutherland
@Tom McLean I’ve been a liberal all my life, but I can’t call myself a Liberal these days. Neil’s article sums up the reasons for that. Verbal porridge indeed.
Jack Russ
@Taylor Sutherland You can be a Liberal and believe that Trudeau isn't the right man for the job.
David Amos
@Jack Russ True
Wilfred Craig
The worshiping liberal press has carried Trudeau along.
M K
@Wilfred Craig .... I see the Harper infiltration of CBC is still going strong.
John Dirlik
@Wilfred Craig
Forty four out the the 45 largest English newspapers in Canada (including that allegedly “lefty” G&M) repeatedly endorsed the Conservatives at election time.
The “worshipping liberal press” is sheer fantasy.
Jake Swan
@John Dirlik even the national post openly endorsed Trudeau (presumably because Conrad Black also wanted a DPA).
John Dirlik
@Jake Swan
Opinions are one thing; sheer fabrication another.
James Stanton
@John Dirlik Scheer fabrication?
David Amos
@Wilfred Craig Oh So True
Albert Rising
Not a big fan of Neil but he nails it here.
David Amos
@Albert Rising Methinks you should watch the circus in Ottawa that CBC is promoting right now and imagine Mr MacDonald's next opinion piece N'esy Pas?
Trudeau's verbal porridge and serene smile have carried him along. Until now: Neil Macdonald
He either doesn't think the public deserves a straight answer, or just isn't capable of delivering one
Neil Macdonald· CBC News·
Trudeau could have answered his former justice minister fact for fact. Instead, his statements have been as stilted and contrived as the optics. (Eddy Kennedy/CBC)
If you're looking for some instructive reading, go look up an aggregation of utterances by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Some are already famous for their loopiness: budgets balance themselves, the government shouldn't call honour killings barbaric, we need to rethink the definitions of space and time, we should say "peoplekind" instead of "mankind" (he may actually have been making fun of himself with that one).
Most, though, are just syrupy, unmemorable banalities about values and optimism and respect and caring for one another.
Like this masterpiece of tautology the day he was sworn in as prime minister: "The diversity that makes this country so strong is a diversity of views that will carry us forward."
Trudeau's happy blather was digestible enough at first, particularly after nearly a decade of Stephen Harper. Like tapioca after heartburn. But as it kept coming, picked up and amplified by his cabinet ministers, it began grating on the nerves, the way retail Christmas-carol Muzak does by late November.
Eventually, it became clear that our prime minister didn't really have much else to say. He relies more heavily on talking points than any Canadian leader in my memory (40-plus years), his answers swollen with extraneous words and catchphrases crafted by his messaging experts.
Meaningless talking points
He and his ministers are capable of answering nearly any question with some vow of support for "the middle class and those who are working so hard to join it," an annoyingly meaningless phrase that's become a banner for his government.
In any case, this verbal porridge, delivered with a serene smile, has carried him along. Until now. With his government sinking into a self-inflicted crisis, it's beginning to appear that Justin Trudeau simply doesn't have the intellectual acuity to cope.
Look at his response to the testimony of Jody Wilson-Raybould last week. She had just finished delivering a measured, unambiguous indictment, accusing him and his staff of attempting to pervert justice for political gain.
Trudeau gave no substantive reply last week to Wilson-Raybould's remarkably serious accusations. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)
He could have answered his former justice minister fact for fact. Instead, Trudeau appeared a few hours later in Montreal, two rows of nervously smiling party volunteers arranged behind him, a newly elected MP standing haplessly to the side. His statements were as stilted and contrived as the optics. "We will stand up and defend and create jobs, and we will always defend our institutions and rule of law."
The government has "consistently defended Canadian jobs while defending our institutions and the independence of our judiciary."
Stephen Harper was mean, said Trudeau, herding his predecessor into questioning about Wilson-Raybould's charges, and he did favours for the wealthy, while Liberals "invest in Canadians" (a favourite line, whatever it means). His central job as prime minister is to stand up for jobs and defend our institutions.
And so on. Not a spontaneous syllable, not a second of candour or actual reflection. Certainly no substantive reply to Wilson-Raybould's remarkably serious accusations.
Trudeau could have talked about the difficulty of having one member of cabinet coexisting as both a political minister and attorney general, a problem Wilson-Raybould herself addressed, but no. He could have given his own version of discussions with her. But no.
This is a man who either doesn't think the public deserves a straight answer, or just isn't capable of delivering one.
And there was the flicker of condescension he's shown before; it was important, he said, that Wilson-Raybould be able to speak, and he was glad he'd allowed her to.
Uh-huh. He was glad.
It was much the same performance this week, after Jane Philpott followed Wilson-Raybould out the cabinet door, declaring she could not square her constitutional obligations as a minister of the Crown with the evidence she'd seen of political interference.
Philpott resigned as Treasury Board president Monday. (Patrick Doyle/Reuters)
A few hours later, at a rally in Toronto to gin up support for a carbon tax, Trudeau made a manic entrance, grinning and high-fiving and flesh-pressing and trying to look happy, before grabbing Environment Minister Catherine McKenna in an awkward hug, and, puzzlingly, yelling, at a Liberal rally, "Are there any Liberals in the house?"
Then, more empty message track.
"In a democracy like ours and in a space where we value our diversity so strongly, we're allowed to have disagreements and debate, we even encourage it. This matter has generated an important discussion."
Oh, and also, he's taking it all seriously. So there's that.
Happily, the Commons justice committee actually is taking it seriously. Even as, at exactly the same time, Republican members of a congressional panel spent the afternoon childishly heckling former Donald Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's efforts to testify – one of them erected a giant placard reading "Liar, Liar, Pants On Fire!"– the multipartisan panel in Ottawa behaved like adults.
Unlike her own party leader, who is as devoted to message track and empty rhetoric as the prime minister, Conservative MP Lisa Raitt's questioning of Wilson-Raybould was serious and probative. It was in fact a public service.
As was the scoop by Globe and Mail journalist Bob Fife (along with Steven Chase and Sean Fine), who detonated this crisis.
The question now is whether Canadians are going to hear any real answers from their prime minister, if indeed he's capable of offering any.
Actually, there are more honest moments in the pantheon of Trudeau's quotations than in any of his performances in the past few weeks.
Back in 2013, former Global anchorman Tom Clark asked Trudeau about his intellectual substance.
His answer: "You know, I'm not going to go around reciting Pi to the 19th decibel or you know wave my grades, or test scores to people. I'm going to simply do what it is that I have to do." Most people can't recite Pi to any decibel, let alone decimal.
In another encounter with Clark a year later, this time jammed into the cabin of Clark's little airplane, he talked about the necessity of educating people (read: all of us).
"I am a teacher. It's how I define myself. A good teacher isn't someone who gives the answers out to their kids but is understanding of needs and challenges and gives tools to help other people succeed."
To the National Post's John Ivison, he declared: "Who cares about winning? We should focus on serving." (Actually, according to Wilson-Raybould, Trudeau cares a great deal about winning, to the point where he's ready to overturn a prosecutor's decision, if that's what it takes).
But it was to CTV that he was probably most candid.
"At one point," he told the program W5, "people are going to have to realize that maybe I know what I'm doing."
Or not. On the evidence of the past few weeks, I'm thinking not.
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About the Author
Neil Macdonald
Opinion Columnist
Neil Macdonald is an opinion columnist for CBC News, based in Ottawa. Prior to that he was the CBC's Washington correspondent for 12 years, and before that he spent five years reporting from the Middle East. He also had a previous career in newspapers, and speaks English and French fluently, and some Arabic.
Methinks Jody and Gerry should admit they read my Statement of Claim (Federal Court File No T-1557-15) and paid particular attention to paragraph 83 about Trudeau yet did nothing N'esy Pas?
'Nothing happened here beyond normal operations of government': Butts speaks out on SNC-Lavalin affair
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Michael Meisner
we need to investigate librals because they too smart
Pat Ferraro
@Michael Meisner - They’re too smart. They’ve been absolutely the dumbest government to date.
Kim Luciano
@Michael Meisner too greasy
Leszek Hoszko
@Michael Meisner Maxwell Smart. Maybe
K BASSO
@Michael Meisner You Mean TOO SNEAKY.
Matt Thuaii
@Michael Meisner
Best government in 40 years...
...by miles.
Mitch Powers
@Michael Meisner C B C Playing with the likes and dislikes again...
Doug Gray
@Michael Meisner Democracy Liberal style.
bryan cassidy
@Mitch Powers They do do that. They got me last night. The Liberal Way.
Len Evans
@Michael Meisner Perfect exercise in fence sitting. Call for investigation because they are too smart? Even the Liberals vote to agree... Is that the point?
John Dunn
@Michael Meisner Great sentence structure and punctuation. Must be a reformer? :)
Denny O'Brien
@Michael Meisner sure thing comrade
Denny O'Brien
@Matt Thuaii beat gdp to debt in over 40 years
David Amos
@Michael Meisner Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Jimmy Moore
No second guessing? More than 20 phone calls and meetings in person, many other emails and texts. all for a span of almost 5 months after she told ALL OF THEM her decision was final, and warned them she thought they were interfering, the only people who believe any of this are Liberal shills and insiders, the general public don't believe a word of it. Say bye to the Liberals in Oct.
Guy Stone
@Jimmy Moore. He clearly had a lawyer and a team of politicians involved... He is concerned not just about political fallout but a criminal investigation. Unfortunately, they (Liberals) picked the person in charge of the RCMP so they probably will refuse to investigate but obviously should. SNC already got caught sending over 100K illegally to the Liberals - what else did they offer? The "jobs" story makes no sense as the only thing they would not be able to do if charged is bid on Federal government jobs... another company would do that if they couldn't... It's not like the feds would slash their budgets
Matt Thuaii
@Jimmy Moore
Except the AG decision isn’t final. She established as much during her questioning. She decided that her decision was final...
...which, as we get more and more information, seems to be the true root of the problem...a “problem” the opposition is more than willing to fan if it gives them an advantage.
Seth Kiraly
@Jimmy Moore "Nothing to see here folks. Everything was just hunky dory." So why did you quit the PMO then, Mr. Butts?
Kyle Smith
@Guy Stone "... the RCMP so they probably will refuse to investigate but obviously should."
If that's the case then this should be an easy question for you to answer "What law or section of the criminal code was violated?" The RCMP won't investigate a quarrel. That's not their job.
David Amos
@Matt Thuaii ".a “problem” the opposition is more than willing to fan if it gives them an advantage."
Methinks the liberals would do the same N'esy Pas?
Jim Smith
@Jimmy Moore I guess that is business as usual for “sensitive” files.
John Dirlik
@Jimmy Moore
However improper Trudeau’s alleged interference in the judicial process, far more serious was Ottawa (under Harper) turning a blind eye when SNC Lavalin was building prisons (torture chambers) for Gaddafi, as well as its support for the neocon destruction of Libya.
Frank Cow
@Jimmy Moore | Trudeau is getting exactly what he wanted. Cake and eat it. SNC will be prosecuted but Quebec electors know he tried everything, close to broken the law, to protect their job. And the opposition is holding it against him.
Guy Stone
@Kyle Smith obstruction of justice. Thats an easy question to answer. Probably bribery although the Liberals returned the over 100k they received illegally from SNC when caught. If SNC were giving Gadafi's son over 40 million and... what did they give the Liberals in return for making a new law and firing an MP for them
Matt Thuaii
@David Amos
Of course they would...but contrary to popular belief (or unpopular, depending on your perspective)...
...that doesn’t make this illegal, or even a scandal.
David Amos
@Matt Thuaii Methinks you should finally read my Statement of Claim (Federal Court File no T-1557-15) and pay particular attention to paragraph 83 N'esy Pas?
Roger Scarisbrick
@Jimmy Moore JWR did not give her decision to Trudeau in writing...curious.
John Dirlik
@david mccaig
Our largest private media (Postmedia) and its flagship National Post further expanded its already impressive reach by merging the editorial desks of hitherto competing newspapers, even though its purchase of Quebecor's Sun chain was approved by the Competition Bureau on the condition they be kept separate.
Robert Green
@Seth Kiraly If you actually listened he explained it twice.
James G W Davis
@Jimmy Moore GO Green!
Percy Thrillington
@John Dirlik Conservatives gave AECL to SNC-L for $15 million. An investigation should be opened up regarding the giving away of strategic national assets. Worst deal since Manhattan for 60 guilders.
Steven Arsenault
@Jimmy Moore
The general public have weak minds.....
So would a conservative on here that is smelling blood in the water explain to me why Jody would not be willing to take advice from one of the best legal minds in the country Beverley Mclachlin?
That just seems odd to me and as a non-Liberal supporter I have no issue with the highest office in the land seeking to remain in the loop and question the views of Ms. Raybould.
In fact I now believe the biggest mistake is Justin's BS view on identity politics that places people in positions based on gender over substance.
Take a look at the various countries such as Germany that have done the exact same as JT was hoping to accomplish; the list of these are lengthy; why because it was the best and most expedient decision for the country. At the end of the day he was right and she was wrong. Cons on here could care less about what is best they just want their pound of flesh.
JT needs to go over identity politics not this.
Rick Wier
@Jimmy Moore a clear rebuttal of what Jody said, seems she was worked herself into anger after she lost th3 portfolio, the conservative conspiracy theory collapses into a heap
Guy Trembley
@Guy Stone
Ah the $92,000.00 analysis. Where was yours 4 years ago?
Matt Thuaii
@David Amos
Why? To find out politics is much dirtier than most people understand or are willing to admit?
I don’t need to look into your personal legal history to do that.
Norm Griffiths
@Guy Stone "what did they give the Liberals in return for making a new law and firing an MP for them" In another forum that would qualify as slander.
Matt Thuaii
@Gord Gundersen
Yes...and that means even that decision isn’t “final”...and neither is the AG’s...
...which is exactly what I said.
Rick Gibeault
@David Amos "N'esy pas?" ...... Don't try to use French until you can spell properly.
Charles Smith
@Kyle Smith obstruction of justice is (obviously) the suspected crime.
Rob Cotnam
@Rick Gibeault
And yet you spell "French" with a capital "F", when it should only be lower case when the context is language (and not at the start of a sentence of course).
Matt Thuaii
@Charles Smith
Even though legal experts across the country, and even Jody Wilson Raybould herself says there wasn’t any...
...I’ll take their word over the internet’s.
gordon franks
@Rick Wier She never looked to be an angry person to me, just disappointment that a Prime Minister she had so much faith in was so partisan in legal matters and cared only about getting re-elected
Rick Gibeault
@Rob Cotnam sorry I should have given the correct spelling (n'est-ce pas?}
Mitch Powers
@Jimmy Moore C B C Playing with the likes and dislikes again...
Len Evans
@Jimmy Moore Who is 2nd guessing what? The minutia of who irritated whom is of absolutely no interest to me as a taxpayer. Like most Canadians I want to see cost effective swift justice exercised, and Canada's best financial & social interests served, without the Shakespearian drama attached. What happens if the Company is prosecuted? Years of very expensive court time, and the corporate stock value falls, and investment money and pension plans and the attached jobs suffer. Huge cost to Canadians without any guarantee of success or a single person held to account. The Lawyers win. If its a DPA? They are held to account swiftly with stiff financial penalties that go into General Revenue. Less court time, and less cost to Canadians, money in our pockets, and the business rolls on. Individuals can still be prosecuted for individual laws broken. Canada is better off. What sounds better? Who was fighting for Canadians?
Murray Joah
@Mitch Powers Thanks for someone else seeing that... Please keep bringing it up and holding them to it!!!
Murray Joah
@Len Evans Boy, apply that argument, and why bother with laws... Let's just let SNC do whatever they wish!
David Amos
@Rob Cotnam Methinks you should finally read my Statement of Claim (Federal Court File no T-1557-15) and pay particular attention to paragraph 83 EH?
Denny O'Brien
@Jimmy Moore she didn5 have a problem until she was moved to veteran's affairs
David Amos
@Matt Thuaii "Why? To find out politics is much dirtier than most people understand or are willing to admit? I don’t need to look into your personal legal history to do that."
WOW Spoken like a true liberal
Len Evans
@Murray Joah As I said, they pay a huge fine directly to the government coffers as a company. The Justice folks can still prosecute individuals. They get held to account with less pain for the taxpayers. Where is the problem?
Len Evans
@David Amos I can claim anything I want to claim in Federal Court. The part that is important is what they rule on more than what people claim. Was there any result from your claim that would be relevant?
David Amos
@Len Evans Google David Amos Wiretap
Then read the latest decision
Len Evans
@David Amos Search What? Googledeepoop! If there is something there of value, put it up. If not, that's fine as well, but I'm hardly likely to go skipping around the internet looking for god only knows what at your direction.
David Amos
@Len Evans CBC blocks it
Len Evans
@David Amos Likely for good reason I guess...
David Amos
@Len Evans "Who is 2nd guessing what? The minutia of who irritated whom is of absolutely no interest to me as a taxpayer. Like most Canadians I want to see cost effective swift justice exercised, and Canada's best financial & social interests served, without the Shakespearian drama attached. What happens if the Company is prosecuted? Years of very expensive court time, and the corporate stock value falls, and investment money and pension plans and the attached jobs suffer. Huge cost to Canadians without any guarantee of success or a single person held to account. The Lawyers win. If its a DPA? They are held to account swiftly with stiff financial penalties that go into General Revenue. Less court time, and less cost to Canadians, money in our pockets, and the business rolls on. Individuals can still be prosecuted for individual laws broken. Canada is better off. What sounds better? Who was fighting for Canadians?"
Yea Right
Len Evans
@David Amos So what serves you better? Simple question... Years of lawyers in court benefiting from your tax dollars, or a quick agreement where they admit fault & pay a fine into the government coffers?
David Amos
@Len Evans You know who I am so answer your own question
That's double-speak if I ever heard it. Why is the "full facts on the impact of a potential conviction" important? Breaking the law is still breaking the law no matter what the consequences.
Alison Harms
@Mark Petersen This is what I was thinking as well. Should the consequences of breaking the law go away if it will hurt others? If that is the case, then many criminals should not be prosecuted as there are often innocent people hurt by punishing criminals -- what is overlooked here is that there are often innocent parties hurt by not prosecuting as well. What about the honest competitors (there must be some) of SNC Lavelin??
Jeff Holloway
@Mark Petersen When people break the law they get punished. The people in this situation have been punished. This discussion is about whether the company (which is really just a shell) should be punished as well. The law is not clear on that. Many big companies have does the same as SNC (such as Seimens) and have paid fines and kept on with life. Just because the Business Development guys in SNC did wrong -they should not all be put out of work. I think the PM is simply paying the price of putting the wrong person in that government position as Justice Minister. She just couldn't do the job and when she was shuffled out of it - she is saying she was bullied by virtually everyone. This is simply a Tempest in a Teapot.
Jack O Hill
@Jeff Holloway
"This discussion is about whether the company (which is really just a shell) should be punished as well."
Interesting discussion to have, I'm sure, but not at all relevant, since the legislation that allows for DPAs specifically rules it out as a point of consideration.
Chun Ming
@Mark Petersen After the arrest of Huawei CFO, Trudeau mentioned "Rule of Law" on TV many many times. After JWR issue surfaced, I have not heard Trudeau mention Rule of Law once.
Jon Holmes
@Chun Ming Nobody cares what the Chinese Think. Massacred any of their Population yet today?
Jon Holmes
@Mark Petersen NO LAWS WERE BROKEN. Repeat: NO LAWS WERE BROKEN. It's Politics. The whole game is unethical. To pretend this is CRIMINAL is stupid beyond redemption.
David Amos
@Mark Petersen Welcome to the Circus
Stanley Baird
@Mark Petersen Butts and Trudeau can dress it up all they want, but it boils down to interference with a prosecutor and potentially obstruction of justice. Remember the prosecutor made the (expert) decision and WR choose NOT to take the extraordinary step of over-ride this decision. The "normal" thing is that politicians stay out of legal cases inspite of what Butts is spinning. The consequences politically or otherwise are irrelevant here and he is only trying to confuse things. He is not a lawyer and neither is Trudeau. They should have taken the advice of their lawyer, the former AG, and backed off when advised by her. I don't fall for his efforts to make this more complex than it is, and Canadians know that WR was fired because Trudeau would not take no for an answer on SNC even months later (which probably = obstruction of justice). Take note that no credible lawyer has tried to defend the PMO's actions in this case. I look forward to Trudeau's real apology if it ever comes. We also need many more resignations in the PMO and privy counsel, and cabinet if anyone wishes to keep what little reminds of their integrity.
david mccaig
@Mark Petersen
And exactly how would any of this been different under an Andrew Scheer government.
david mccaig
@Mark Petersen
And tell us again how Andrew Scheer wouldn't have cautioned his attorney general that frivolous investigation may cost thousands and thousands of Canadian high paying jobs.
David Coe
@david mccaig
poor attempt at deflection....
Dennis Quaid
@David Coe The Liberal Spinster strikes again!
David Amos
@David Coe YUP Methinks we all were led to believe that Mr Butts was a clever dude. I bet many Proud Maritimers are wondering why he ain't at least wise enough to know when to clam up N'esy Pas?
John Hancock
@Jon Holmes I highly doubt you would hold that same opinion if Harper was wearing Trudeau’s shoes for the last few weeks.
david mccaig
@Mark Petersen
It should NEVER BE LOST on the public, the billionaire owned corporate media makes big advertising dollars out blowing government workings out of proportion and making then hot topics .
david mccaig
@Mark Petersen
It should NEVER BE FORGOTTEN , CEO of CBS in America once stated that their disproportionate coverage of Donald Trump 'wasnt good for America, but it was good for CBS advertising revenues'. We should then understand much of Canada's billionaire owned media, MIGHT be financially motivated from disproportionate coverage of something that even Trudeau's accuser has said at 'worst was improper NOT CRIMINAL'.
david mccaig
@Mark Petersen
It should NEVER BE FORGOTTEN , CEO of CBS in America once stated that their disproportionate coverage of Donald Trump 'wasnt good for America, but it was good for CBS advertising revenues'. So where would tar place Canada's corporate news services.
Chun Ming
@Jon Holmes I suppose in your world, "Rule of Law" equivalent to rule by law.
david mccaig
@Mark Petersen
Jumlping to conclusions just a little, even the ex attorney General has publicly stated this at worst is Mr Trudeau acting improper, BUT IT'S NOT ILLEGAL.
Scotty Davidson
@david mccaig DPA should not exist. Corporations who break our laws should face prosecution. Defending this is disgusting.
Brad Mercier
@david mccaig Attempting to obstruct justice is still a crime, regardless of the outcome.
Steven Arsenault
@Mark Petersen
And yet no law was broken.
Steven Arsenault
@Chun Ming
Since you are confusing the rule of law. There was no law broken. So are you saying if a partner in a law firm tries to convince a front line lawyer to change his tact on a file he is breaking the law?
Rick Gibeault
@Jeff Holloway There was no claim of inappropriate pressure until the cabinet shuffle and her feelings were hurt. If Trudeau had wanted to punish her for SNC he would have kicked her out of cabinet. Unfortunately she was a high maintenance employee and they make life miserable for those who have to work with then.
gordon franks
@Steven You can's say no law was broken until it is tested in Court and that what Trudeau wants to prevent
David Amos
@Rick Gibeault "Unfortunately she was a high maintenance employee and they make life miserable for those who have to work with then."
Please excuse my Chiac but methinks you meant to spell "them" N'esy Pas?
Albert Franklin
After ruining Ontario, Gerry came to Ottawa to work the same magic on Canada. Good riddance!
Jon Holmes
@Albert Franklin Healthcare Surcharge wasn't a Tax as I recall. Good ol McGuinty.
David Amos
@Albert Franklin I concur
Myles Grant
@Albert Franklin If you look up JWR On Wikipedia, you will see that she has only three years experience as a lawyer. The rest of the time she was up to her neck in FN politics. She was far too inexperienced and underqualified to serve as Justice Minister, much less as Attorney General. Glad she is gone… Hope the next candidate is much more qualified
Stanley Baird
@Albert Franklin do you believe on questions of law a guy who has spent his whole life generating political spin or a lawyer?
Bernie Hunter
@Myles Grant
Then the Prime Minister of Canada has NO reason to be in the country's top position.
Mitch Powers
@Albert Franklin C B C Playing with the likes and dislikes again...
Murray Joah
@Mitch Powers I am so very glad that others notice this as well... Keep bringing it up!!!
David Amos
@Stanley Baird "do you believe on questions of law a guy who has spent his whole life generating political spin or a lawyer?"
Methinks the dude who is using a comedian turned Yankee Senator's name should agree that it would not be wise to believe either one N'esy Pas?
Jeremy Karkheck
Typical Trudeauite..........speaks about everything except the real issue at play....this guys has known Trudeau for 30 years ..they may as well be brothers lol. He resigned for a reason....speak the plain truth dude.
Peter Boone
@Jeremy Karkheck - Canada's Doobie Brothers.
David Amos
@Jeremy Karkheck "He resigned for a reason"
YUP
ALEX Chiasson
So much at stake. Saudi oil, Quebec Pension funds, vacations for the PM.
nan. morris
@ALEX Chiasson Yes, it is always about Quebec with Quebec PMs...Time for changes, big time.
Peter Boone
@nan. morris The Canada East pipeline was blocked by Quebec because so many Quebec Liberals are heavily invested in foreign oil, including one Jean Chretien.
Jack O Hill
@Peter Boone
Paul Martin owns a lot of the ships bringing in oil.
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David Amos
@Jack O Hill Methinks the Cape Breton Islanders such as Gerry Butts, Kevin Lynch, Lisa Raitt,, and Elizabeth May must remember the 83 kilos of cocaine found in Sideny on Martin's Coal Boat named after his wife on Canada Day in 2004 right after he won the mandate of the 38th Parliament N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Jack O Hill Check out Martin's coal boat in Sidney on Canada Day 2004
Stanley Baird
@ALEX Chiasson SNC apparently has a full order book - no need to panic.
Marty Rattee
too bad they didn't have the same concern for oil patch communities
Chris Spiers
@Marty Rattee or Auto Workers
Just QC centric companies
Jason DeBack
@Marty Rattee
and how many other industries that aren't doing well, the gov is supposed to STAY OUT of capitalism no?
John Sollows
@Marty Rattee
Yeah ... how 'bout that Kinder-Morgan purchase?
Bryan Pollock
@John Sollows What about it? It was a waste of $4BN of tax payers money that could have been entirely privately funded. Do you see it being built? Because so far it's dead but unfortunately not buried in the ground where it would be useful.
Janet Oakes
@Marty Rattee How do you know they don’t?
Marty Rattee
@Janet Oakes do you read the news? Any idea what's going on in Alberta? 3500 auto jobs in Ontario is front page news for a week, any idea how many jobs have been lost in Alberta? The ridiculous $4B pipeline purchase was a joke so don't even table that.
Jeff Holloway
@Marty Rattee They do not control the price of oil and the system that is set up at the present time was all set up by the conservative provincial government over the last 40 years. They did buy the Transmountain line. Which is a huge purchase to help jobs in Alberta. The oil patch has always gone up and down and it is just about always completely because of the price of oil - nothing else. Alberta has chosen to live with this since we try to do without a PST -so we have to live with it and not look for someone to blame.
Marty Rattee
@Jeff Holloway the price of Alberta oil is being sold at a HUGE discount. Alberta is unable to get its product to world markets because of this government. Alberta needs pipelines, this government quashed 2 and approved 2, 1 of which due their complete ineptness was canceled anyway. No small note that the pipeline to go through Quebec was quashed - shall we get into that one? Energy East?
Murray Joah
@Jeff Holloway Prices have fluctuated due to various technological advances since petroleum has been produced... It is the continual changing of the rules, and arbitrary new rules that have killed investor confidence, and allowed the creation of the HUGE discount that is currently being experienced. Energy East should have gone ahead for the sake of the country, and Northern Gateway was the overall best choice for getting the product to foreign markets.
David Amos
@Marty Rattee Methinks all the politicians know that I have been complaining about NAFTA for years and nobody seems to care for rather obvious reasons N'esy Pas?
Mike Sutton
CBC your guy is done let go... start informing Canadians with unbiased reporting.
Jimmy Moore
@Mike Sutton good luck with that, the CBC are a left wing propaganda arm of the Liberal government lately. $1.2 billion a year in tax payer money will do that.
Fred Thiolla
@Jimmy Moore don't forget the additional $600 million tax-payer slush fund for the other media outlets, I guess that's how you get those positive OP-eds after all
Joe Smithson
@Jimmy Moore
LOL The execs are all Harper appointees
Jack O Hill
@Joe Smithson
You think that the Board sets editorial policy?
Good attempt for joke of the week.
Ron Brady
@Mike Sutton Re. the title of the article comparing Trudeau to Ford ... '2 figures that are experiencing similar accusations of political interference' ?????
David Amos
@Mike Sutton "start informing Canadians with unbiased reporting."
Methinks that is never gonna happen as long as the liberals have the federal mandate N'esy Pas?
wayne watson
I'm confused. If nothing happened why did you resign? Nice deflection. This guy is a strategist. I wouldn't believe him for a moment.
David Webb
@wayne watson
nope, wouldn't trust him as far as all Canadians could throw him
David Amos
@wayne watson Nor I
Stanley Baird
@wayne watson I think like most strategists, he can't separate spin from facts anymore, and he can't speak with any credibility on legal matters with his BA in English. He should have followed the legal advise he got on this matter from the former AG, that he and Trudeau fired.
Ke Irwin
@wayne watson
This is what happens when you have a low EQ disgruntled fired employee who is a spoiled narcissist princess & uses get backs vs. solving problems in group or a team!
Waahhhhh they pressure and fired me!
Sociopath narcissist seem to be making there way to the top in key govt positions and are not without harm or unproductive distraction!
LEts get back to work vs escalating her BS over international Bribes that will be settled in court and laws changed!
SnlC's competiton...are Trumps mafia USA cos and Chinas Triads cos...are the winners here! And it is at the ex AGs feet!
Does anyone work for the country anymore!? The new war is economic and we are being pumped and dumped because of a Quebec co bribes and a disgruntled failed employee! Grow up...bribes are common in international construction! But is in CAnada ...this will be settled in court...that is if the CBC does not escalated it to the point someone is shot!
Try less leading questions & escalation CBC...try more balance reporting!? aka promoting flu / immune shots with mercury and aluminum to babies under three years old who have no immune system! Like the Edmonton hockey team dancing ..they were first nation kids...but the CBC escalated the story to the point they were almost kicked out of the league! Too much sensation not enough balance or perspective!
david kirby
@wayne watson This is the smartest comment of the day
Mitch Powers
@wayne watson C B C Playing with the likes and dislikes again...
Joe Renaud
@wayne watson
You need to read his testimony. Per Butts (and he kept notes), JWR was offered a move to Indigenous Affairs which she refused. Butts advised Trudeau that he should not allow a minister to dictate where she would or would not be shuffled at the risk of losing control of his cabinet. This, and JWR's hurt feelings, are at the root of this mess. Since the mess was of his making, Butts resigned. Had he not misread JWR's potential reaction this whole mess might not have happened at all.
Bill Dixon
@Joe Renaud
That still makes no sense. Butts provides advice to Trudeau, but if Trudeau makes a decision then it's his responsibility, not Butts'. Further, she never was transferred to Indigenous Affairs; she was transferred to Veterans' Affairs, and accepted it. So to pretend that he resigned because of problems caused by her getting upset about the decision to transfer her to IF is moot and nonsensical.
wayne watson: you nailed the basic problem with Butt's position - if there was nothing inappropriate, then why did Butts have to go, either because he did something wrong or even if it was merely that there had to be a sacrifice to calm the waters?
Nobody gets fired for not causing a problem that they assert doesn't actually exist.
Len Evans
@wayne watson Don't believe this guy, but you would believe the Lawyer? Who wants this dragged through the courts at huge taxpayers expense? Where all the Lawyers would drool over years of huge amounts of billable hours? Sounds reasonable to me...
David Amos
@Len Evans Methinks you won't be visiting Admiral Norman's GoFundme page N'esy Pas?
Alex Smith
Liberals smearing liberals. The gift that keeps on giving.
Paul Mason
@Alex Smith Almost as entertaining as when Cons shoot themselves in the foot
Aaron Morris
@Paul Mason
Competition is good. If there is this kind of corruption in the CPC then I hope it comes out as well. It's the only way we can sever these infected limbs.
Eric Fowler
@Aaron Morris "If" ? LOL.
Aaron Morris
@Eric Fowler
Evidence? Testimony under oath?
Only one party is throwing it's star candidates-turned-whistleblowers under the buss at the moment. If the CPC has the same thing happen then the infected should be culled.
If it goes all the way to Scheer, as it so clearly does to Trudeau, he should be severed as well. But until there is some evidence and not pure kaka, Scheer is the best alternative.
David Amos
@Alex Smith "Liberals smearing liberals. The gift that keeps on giving."
YUP
Miguel Sanchez
'Nothing happened here beyond normal operations of government'
I guess the Liberals have a different definition of normal than the rest of Canada.
@Miguel Sanchez after all they do speak for all Canadians, don't you listen to them each time a camera is turned on?
Mitch Powers
@Miguel Sanchez C B C Playing with the likes and dislikes again...
David Amos
@Miguel Sanchez Apparently so
Ken Parker
Here we go with the jobs, jobs, BS. They are NOT a consideration for DPAs. Did the Liberals not read their own legislation.
Phil K'Mee
@Ken Parker
The Liberals don't even care about legislation. The end justifies the means.
David Amos
@Phil K'Mee YUP
'Nothing happened here beyond normal operations of government': Butts speaks out on SNC-Lavalin affair
PM's ex-principal secretary responds to allegations of inappropriate pressure on then-attorney general
Kathleen Harris· CBC News·
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P&P special: Gerry Butts testifies on SNC-Lavalin LIVE
Justin Trudeau's former principal secretary appears before the Commons justice committee to give his version of events that led to former AG Jody Wilson-Raybould's resignation. 0:00
Gerald Butts, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's former top aide, testified Wednesday there was no intention on the government's part to pressure Jody Wilson-Raybould to change her mind on the criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin, and official engagements were meant only to ensure she had the full facts on the impact of a potential conviction.
"I am firmly convinced that nothing happened here beyond the normal operations of government," he told the Commons justice committee.
At all times, he said, the prime minister made it clear that the decision to prosecute or not was Wilson-Raybould's alone to make as attorney general, but that the issue merited robust discussion and consideration because there were so many jobs at risk.
Butts said highly trained legal staff worked on the file to ensure no line was crossed in engagements with the then-attorney general. He said the objective was to underscore the impact of a prosecution, including the thousands of jobs at stake. Those discussions continued because Wilson-Raybould never informed the prime minister or other officials in writing of her decision, he said, leading people to believe that new information could come to light that would affect the decision. Butts said he first learned her decision was final in her committee testimony last week.
Butts also insisted Wilson-Raybould's move to the Veterans Affairs portfolio in a Jan. 14 cabinet shuffle had nothing to do with the SNC-Lavalin matter.
He said he did not want to quarrel with or discredit Wilson-Raybould but would offer a "different version of events," backed up by his own notes, text messages and conversations with other officials. "It was not about second-guessing the decision. It was about ensuring that the attorney general was making her decision with the absolute best evidence possible," Butts said.
He said officials always understood the final call on whether to override a decision by the independent director of public prosecutions rested with Wilson-Raybould as attorney general.
Because of the enormous impact of her decision, officials suggested getting an independent opinion from a former retired Supreme Court justice such as Beverley McLachlin, the former chief justice.
Butts said if Wilson believed something inappropriate was happening, she had many opportunities to inform the prime minister, but did not. The allegations did not come to light until after the cabinet shuffle, he said.
"If this was wrong, and wrong in the way it is alleged to have been wrong, why are we having this discussion now and not in the middle of September, or October, or November, or December?"
CBC News
Gerry Butts: "... an obligation to inform the prime minister."
"I believe that if any minister is made aware of something they think is this wrong, I believe they have an obligation to inform the prime minister soon after they become aware of it." 0:48
Butts also disputed Wilson-Raybould's testimony last week — that she believed she was shuffled over the SNC-Lavalin matter — insisting Trudeau tried to avoid a shuffle because he was "happy with his team."
The prime minister tried unsuccessfully to have Scott Brison change his mind about resigning as Treasury Board president, Butts said. Having moved Jane Philpott to the position, he said, Trudeau asked Wilson-Raybould to take on the Indigenous Services portfolio, which she refused.
Butts said the PMO was surprised by her refusal, as cabinet decisions are "not the product of shared decision-making." But he said he tried to reassure her that her eventual move to Veterans Affairs had nothing to do with the SNC-Lavalin matter.
"I was deeply concerned by what the minister was saying. I tried to counter her misapprehensions with repeated, and believe me, honest efforts," he said. "In the end, I was unable to do so, and here we are today."
He said he takes responsibility for the "breakdown" in trust with Wilson-Raybould, and ultimately with Philpott.
Butts's two-hour appearance began at 10 a.m. ET and CBCNews.ca has been carrying it live. Butts resigned Feb. 18 amid a growing controversy over alleged political interference related to a decision to prosecute SNC-Lavalin for bribery charges related to contracts in Libya.
In explosive testimony last week, Wilson-Raybould said she faced intense pressure and veiled threats from 11 officials from the Prime Minister's Office and elsewhere in government. She said she was contacted through phone calls, meetings and text messages.
"For a period of four months from September to December 2018, I experienced a consistent and sustained effort by many people within the government to seek to politically interfere in the exercise of prosecutorial discretion in my role as the attorney general of Canada in an inappropriate effort to secure a Deferred Prosecution Agreement (DPA) with SNC-Lavalin," Wilson-Raybould testified.
She said she met with Butts on Dec. 5 to speak about a number of things, including SNC-Lavalin and the "barrage" of people "hounding" her and her staff.
Towards the end of that meeting at Chateau Laurier, she said, she told Butts that people must stop talking to her about SNC as she had made up her mind and the engagements were inappropriate.
"Gerry then took over the conversation and said how we need a solution on the SNC stuff. He said I needed to find a solution," Wilson-Raybould testified.
CBC News
Gerry Butts: 'The PM assured minister Philpott that the shuffle had nothing to do with the file.'
"That was the first time I ever heard anyone suggest that this cabinet shuffle was in any way related to the SNC Lavalin file." 1:01
Today, Butts offered a very different account, recalling a two-hour dinner followed by congenial exchanges. He said he considered Wilson-Raybould a friend.
The former attorney general said she always believed that Butts was speaking with the "full authority" of the prime minister.
Wilson-Raybould also testified about a conversation her then chief of staff Jessica Prince had with Butts and Katie Telford, where they seemed "quite keen" on the idea of retaining an ex-Supreme Court justice to get advice. She testified that Prince said Telford believed it would give them "cover" in the business community and the legal community, and allow the prime minister to say they were doing something.
"She was like, 'If Jody is nervous, we would of course line up all kinds of people to write op-eds saying that what she is doing is proper,'" Wilson-Raybould said, reading from a text from Prince. Butts said the discussion was not meant to exert pressure but to seek to understand the "reticence" in gaining external advice, which he considered to be sound public policy.
Beginning at 2 p.m. Wednesday, the committee will also hear again from Michael Wernick, clerk of the Privy Council, and Nathalie Drouin, deputy minister of justice and deputy attorney general. Both officials appeared before the committee last week.
Trudeau considering a statement of contrition over SNC-Lavalin
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Content disabled. David Amos Trust that Gerald Butts, Jagmeet Singh, Andrew Scheer, Maxime Bernier, Elizabeth May and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that it irritated me big time when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?
Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" before Gerry butts speaks his truth next week N'esy Pas?
Content disabled. David Amos Methinks Gerry Butts and his unnamed lawyer know truth is stranger than fiction and that anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No.T-1557-15" in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harper's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to info found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015
Gerry Butts and everybody else knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?
David Dekker
From CBC: "the ongoing SNC Lavalin controversy"
"Controversy"??? Canadians would prefer that the CBC use the word "Scandal" please.
Dirt in Libya is deep and well precedes Truduea's time. Maybe he hasn't handled it perfectly, but neither did his predecessors. Its a game of musical chairs with Trudeau caught when the music stopped.
Dig deeper into Libya CBC. Gold, oil, wealth, now guns and war -plenty of skeletons -real news for those that have the courage to look...
leonard g MacAulay
@Freddie Philpott You left out false eyebrows.
David Amos
@Inas Johnson I Wholeheartedly Agree
Steve Timmins
So Trudeau gets elected thanks to overwhelming support by women and now it's women who are taking him out.
If you think that's bad. Take a closer look into the "R2P" phenomenon -and LIbya ten years ago vs. Libya now. Maybe SNC Lavalin did some bad things, but there are those that did so much worse -and this has gone on through both sides of the political isle. Gold, oil, massive wealth -now war and destitution. So much scandal, words don't even capture it.
Will our kids read about this like we now read about the Belgian Congo?
Tina Falco
@Inas Johnson
Excellent comments Inas, thanks.
David Amos
@Larry Smith Methinks a kid in grade school could follow the crumbs on the well worn path left by the dudes with the brown paper bags N'esy Pas?
Deborah Morgan Sangster
Too late - Canadians want Trudeau and his band of theives to resign.
@Ben Robinson Was he ever in control? Perhaps Butt.
Philip Nicholson
@Ben Robinson "Trudeau, just not ready." (How prophetic)
Content disabled. David Amos
@bryan cassidy Methinks Mr Butts thought he was a but a couple of ladies have obviously shown him the door N'esy Pas?
Fred Warden
Trudeau MUST resign ASAP
He is playing Canadians for fools.
Bob Claxton
@Fred Warden After all, it has worked up until now. lol
David Amos
@Bob Claxton Not on all of us Methinks folks should never forget I was suing the Crown before Trudeau appointed Jody to take control over litigation N'esy Pas?
Larry Smith
We need an impeachment or recall process for politicians who do not deal honestly with the public.
David Allan
@Larry Smith
I would love for recall legislation.
What wasn't honest about his dealings with the public? JWR says no laws were broken.
Arthur Gill
@David Allan "What wasn't honest about his dealings with the public? "
At least two off the top of my head. Trudeau claimed the G&M article was false. It wasn't. The next day Trudeau claimed there was no "pressure". There was.
Douglas Locke
@Larry Smith We would only have two politicians left in Ottawa
David Amos
@Larry Smith I concur
Phillip Herring
If he has to "consider" it, then I doubt his sincerity.
David Amos
@Phillip Herring Me Too
brian duog
so here it comes folks , "I am sorry", tears form, ( translation " I am sorry I got caught")
David Allan
@brian duog
I wonder if he'll have Paul Calandra write it for him.
David Amos
@David Allan Perhaps you should
Trudeau considering a statement of contrition over SNC-Lavalin
Source said Trudeau had no warning of Philpott's resignation
David Cochrane· CBC News·
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is conferring with his top advisers today to find a way forward on the SNC-Lavalin scandal. (Chris Wattie/Reuters)
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is holding high-level discussions today to plot next steps in the ongoing SNC-Lavalin controversy — steps which may include Trudeau making some display of contrition over how officials in his office conducted themselves.
A senior government official said one of the options being discussed is for Trudeau to "show some ownership over the actions of his staff and officials" in their dealings with his former attorney general, Jody Wilson-Raybould.
Wilson-Raybould resigned from her cabinet position as veteran affairs minister on Feb. 12. Wilson-Raybould testified before a Commons committee last week that 11 officials in the Prime Minister's Office and other offices inappropriately pressured her to override a decision to prosecute SNC-Lavalin on bribery charges related to contracts in Libya.
On Monday, Jane Philpott — one of Trudeau's most trusted ministers — resigned from cabinet over the SNC-Lavalin affair as well, saying she had to "abide by my core values, my ethical responsibilities and constitutional obligations."
A shift in messaging
To this point, Trudeau has described the entire controversy as a difference of opinion, insisting his office has done nothing wrong.
But the source said that Trudeau's comments at Monday night's climate change rally in Toronto hinted at a shift in approach.
"This matter has generated an important discussion," Trudeau told supporters at the rally. "How our democratic institutions, specifically the federal ministry and the staff and officials that support it, conduct themselves is critical and core to all of our principles."
Trudeau abruptly cancelled a trip to Regina to spend Tuesday afternoon with his top advisers — including chief of staff Katie Telford, executive director of communications and planning Kate Purchase, executive director of issues management Brian Clow and Canada's Ambassador to the United States David MacNaughton.
All of this was prompted by Philpott's sudden resignation, which the source said "change(d) things once again — maybe in its biggest way so far."
No warning
The source confirms the prime minister had no idea Philpott was poised to resign when he made minor changes to his cabinet on Friday to fill the vacancy caused by Wilson-Raybould's resignation. Trudeau, the source said, didn't know Philpott was quitting until they spoke shortly before her resignation was made public.
Multiple high-level sources tell CBC News people in Trudeau's circle have been concerned about Philpott's level of comfort since the controversy erupted. Philpott was widely viewed as one of the most competent and effective ministers in the Trudeau cabinet. Seen as a highly-principled team player, Philpott is also a close friend and ally of Wilson-Raybould.
Because of that relationship, sources said, other ministers and top political staff tried to reassure Philpott by attempting to explain the government's conduct and seeking her advice on how to move forward.
Those efforts failed. In her resignation letter, Philpott made it clear she was resigning over the government's handling of SNC-Lavalin.
"Sadly, I have lost confidence in how the government has dealt with this matter and in how it has responded to the issues raised," she wrote in her resignation letter.
How to watch Wednesday's testimony
CBC News will have full coverage of Gerry Butts' testimony at the Justice committee:
A special Power & Politics with VassyKapelos begins at 10 a.m. ET on CBC News Network.
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Methinks Mr Scheer and everybody else want to ignore the fact that Kevin Lynch Harper's former Clerk of the PCO is now the Chair of the board of SNC-Lavalin and that he was the dude putting pressure on Trudeau and Wernick N'esy Pas?
Methinks its too bad so sad that CBC edits so much for the benefit of one political party that I have to blog and Tweet about it to show the awful truth of its malice N'esy Pas?
'I made no threats': Key moments from the Privy Council clerk's testimony on the SNC-Lavalin affair
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David Amos
Methinks its too bad so sad that CBC edits so much for the benefit of one political party that I have to blog and Tweet about it to show the awful truth of its malice N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks Mr Scheer and everybody else want to ignore the fact that Kevin Lynch Harper's former Clerk of the PCO is now the Chair of the board of SNC-Lavalin and that he was the dude putting pressure on Trudeau and Wernick N'esy Pas?
Content disabled. David Amos Trust that Michael Wernick, Gerald Butts, Jagmeet Singh, Andrew Scheer, Maxime Bernier, Elizabeth May and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that it irritated me big time when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?
Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" before the lady is asked to speak anymore of her "Truth" N'esy Pas?
Content disabled. David Amos Methinks Michael Wernick and his unnamed lawyer know truth is stranger than fiction and that anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No.T-1557-15" in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harper's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to info found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015
Michael Wernick and everybody else knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?
He isn't an elected person with a golden parachute at hand, he is a bureaucrat that has a family to feed.
He of all involved has the most to lose, he is being truthful like he would under other administrations...
David Amos
@gary Shortell "Wernick like Trudeau has lost his credibility."
Methinks folk should not ignore the fact Wernick admitted that Kevin Lynch Harper's former Clerk of the PCO is now the Chair of the board of SNC-Lavalin and that he was the dude putting pressure on the PMO and the PCO N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Troy Mann "He isn't an elected person with a golden parachute at hand, he is a bureaucrat that has a family to feed. "
Methinks you are only fooling yourself everybody knows Mean Little Mikey is Canada's top bureaucrat with the biggest golden parachute of them all Anyone can checkout whole well the others who came before him have done after they left the PCO N'esy Pas?
Steve Timmins
Sounds like we need a new Clerk of the Privy Council.
Scotty Davidson
@Steve Timmins We need a ethics watchdog not appointed by the people they are supposed to investigate.
Dan Berty
@Steve Timmins Completely agree! Who can fire him / how?
Len Evans
@Steve Timmins Why? Different opinion than you wanted?
Here is what I wonder. If I worked for either the past Justice Minister, or her recently resigned friend, and I felt that they were up to no good, what would they expect me to do? Run to the Media? Or would they expect and demand that I use and exhaust every internal process available before I caused a ruckus? You can bet your bottom dollar that they would leave no stone unturned in finding ways to hold me to account for doing what they have done to their own caucus. These people are not wall flowers. They are wise & hardened political pros. They are not likely to be offended so easily. Some say they are brave... I don't share that opinion. Its my opinion that this was more likely a calculated political maneuver for god only knows what reason
Stanley Baird
@Len Evans if Wernick is telling us that political interference is in a trial is okay then he is unfit for his job. If he participated in it then he has more to answer for. Why did all these people think they know more about the law than the only lawyer in the room - the arrogance is catching up them.
Troy Mann
@Stanley Baird
If you are in fact correct, Wernick only believes the 'interference' was acceptable because it was done under previous administrations that he worked under...
He above all has more to lose here, he is simply a citizen of Canada who has worked under Conservative and Liberal regimes...
Moira Wilkinson
@Steve Timmins Have you got you’re resume at hand?
David Amos
@Steve Timmins Methinks whomever were to be appointed to replace Mr Wernick they would also will be ruled by Kevin Lynch and his bankster buddies N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Troy Mann Methinks everybody in the know knows that I was are war with Mikey Wernick when he was moved to Aboriginal Affairs not long after I ran against Andy Scott for his seat in the 39th Parliament Anyone can Google Wernick's old email address in that department and my name to verify what I say is true N'esy Pas?
Steve Timmins
Is that really the best Clerk of privy council Canada can get. The man is an arrogant joke.
Kyle Smith
@Steve Timmins "Is that really the best Clerk of privy council Canada can get. The man is an arrogant joke"
Appointed by Harper.
Aaron Morris
@Kyle Smith
and probably stood up to give Trudeau a standing ovation when he was elected with the rest of the federal service.
wal wiseman
@Kyle Smith He wasn't appointed to the privy council by Harper.
Smith John
@Steve Timmins
Like peas in a pod.
Kay McLeod
@wal wiseman Technicality and irrelevant. If he's bad, he's bad.
Troy Mann
@Kay McLeod
How is he bad? Do you have any proof he is lying? No... He stated 'his truth' as he has learned from working under Conservatives for 10 years...
Asking a person to resign for doing nothing wrong is partisan and will cost us in wrongful dismissal charges.
Moira Wilkinson
@wal wiseman Being s member of the Privy council is a lifetime thing. If you see the letters PC. That means Privy council. Not progressive conservative. To be the clerk of the Privy council gives mr Wernick that PC designation for life
David Amos
@Steve Timmins "The man is an arrogant joke."
Welcome to the Circus
David Amos
@Troy Mann Methinks you know as well as I that I have lots of proof that Mr Wernick is far worse than merely bad N'esy Pas?
Ron Sleen
Gotta love the lack of concern over 100K+ Western Canada jobs as opposed to 9000 in Quebec.
@Jay Tall the pipline was being built without public funds by a private company and tredeau and the BC NDP/greens meddled just enough that the company pulled out knowing it will never be built. and then sold a pipline to Canada that will cost us more then it is worth without the twining
Donald Patrick
@Troy Mann What? You claim a conspiracy but can't recognize the one thats slapping you in the face right now with JT and JWR? You are willfully blind!!
David Amos
@Ron Sleen "Gotta love the lack of concern over 100K+ Western Canada jobs"
It is profoundly ironic to say the least
David Amos
@Donald Patrick Methinks the RCMP, Peter MacKay, Mr Wernick, and Jody Wilson-Rabould to name but a few know that I don't make false claims about conspiracies but in fact have proven it in several courts in Canada and the USA sine 2002 Anyone can Google "David Amos RCMP Sussex" N'esy Pas?
Steve Timmins
I think the Clerk has a bad case of the rot of entitlement and being to big for their britches
Jon Holmes
@Steve Timmins Wernick comes off brutally, no doubt. He's the type that clearly doesn't like being questioned.
Stanley Baird
@Jon Holmes I can see why this talentless and arrogant guy was Trudeau’s pick
Troy Mann
@Jon Holmes
Try questioning JWR, it would seem she gets irritated easily and you won't want to be around when she is irritated which is likely why she had 4 chief of staffs in 3 years and refused the be Aboriginal Affairs Minister...
David Amos
@Steve Timmins Methinks the clerk is little man in big britches who obviously has his knickers in quite a knot N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Troy Mann Methinks you chug far too much of the red kool aid N'esy Pas?
Dave Evers
Wernick comes off as quite arrogant and short both times now...I could feel pressured by this fine fellow. I believe the attorney general. We need a full investigation
Dave Evers
It also stinks to high heaven that the liberals opposes the swearing in of witnesses and the releasing of Butts emails and texts....stinks very badly
Dave Evers
It also smells very bad that the majority ruled liberal committee blocked the swearing in of witnesses and the release of Butts emails and texts
Heather Inglis
@Dave Evers No one has been sworn in for the past 25 years. That's the way the committee usually works. Asking for people to be sworn in is nothing more than a Conservative tactic to make people think that there is something wrong. This is from the party that used to take all committee meetings in camera so no one would know what was going on, not televise them.
Heather Inglis
@Dave Evers Butts no longer has access to his emails and texts as they were on his government phones which he doesn't have any more. The committee will get the emails and texts from the PMO. The request was to get them from Butts, something the Conservatives and NDP on the committee knew was impossible. Pay attention.
Lily O'Loughlin
@Heather Inglis Kind of like "the dog ate my homework".
Louren Organzo
@Lily O'Loughlin "Kind of like "the dog ate my homework"." No not like that at all. There are rules, if Butts could produce those emails without the assistance of the PMO then he'd have already broken the law … his security clearance would not allow him to keep personal copies, those emails and text would be unavailable to Butts as soon as he quit.
The PMO could definitely release them though, no doubt about that.
Joe Renaud
@Dave Evers
The whining here is spectacular. It was her job to face the pressure! That is what we pay politicians to do; take difficult matters of public concern, listen to a whole bunch of input, subject themselves to a lot of pressure and try to make the best decision possible.
Richard Sharp
@Dave Evers
Wernick is by far the most credible witness, with 35 years of impeccable service. He was again today. Between Wernick and Butts, it is increasingly evident that this entire affair was all about JWR and her bruised ego.
There are maybe a hundred corporate media journos out there who have egg all over their face, having exposed their extreme anti-Trudeau bias going into the next election.
Kevin Delaney
@Richard Sharp Sad that he had to ruin his final time of service on a JT & JT’s PMO blunders.
Rae Quin
@Joe Renaud Yes. Consultation is a must at all levels.
Lindsay Stephenson
@Richard Sharp You're so biased Richard, that if Trudeau pinched a loaf on the floor of the HOC, you would claim it was fine swiss chocolate to feed those striving to enter the middle class. You have as much credibility as Wernick et al.
@Lindsay Stephenson The world according to Richard, always entertaining.
David Amos
@Dave Evers "I could feel pressured by this fine fellow."
Methinks everybody knows that I would have more fun than ten men if Mean Little Mikey tried to pressure e N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Richard Sharp "Wernick is by far the most credible witness, with 35 years of impeccable service."
Methinks I should thank you for making me choke on my coffee and sending it up my nose I am certain that you understand that although it was uncomfortable it was well worth the laugh that followed N'esy Pas?
Luc Newsome
rule iof law..... 1. make a law 2. design it so its one persons choice 3. push them to make the choice you want 4. punt them out if you don't get your way 5. hire a new yes man
David Amos
@Luc Newsome Methinks everybody knows the mot important rule of law is "He With The Gold Makes The Rules" N'esy Pas?
John Brown
Wernick's last visit is gonna be picked apart, and he ain't gonna like it. His at best thinly veiled partisanship guaranteed another go-around...and his credibility is pretty much shot.
David Amos
@John Brown Methinks Wernick is non-parisan He just does whatever he told by whomever holds the keys to the PMO at the time N'esy Pas?
Steve Timmins
I'm the Clerk of the Privy Council. How dare you question me!
Jon Holmes
@Steve Timmins The most cerebral people I've ever met all came across as Arrogant Ash holes like Wernick does. I assume he's capable having held the post for successive Govts. But the degree of arrogance and intransigence is shocking.
Kay McLeod
@Steve Timmins Absolutely. If you watched that Peter Strzok from the U.S., part of the crowd undermining the elected president and being called the Deep State, sadly this guy seemed similar. It's scary how dismissive he is. Then, twice now he's come on agitated about average Canadians expressing their views in protests or online that he finds scary and threatening. Sorry, buddy. It's ordinary Canadians you are working for and are answerable to.
David Amos
@Steve Timmins "I'm the Clerk of the Privy Council. How dare you question me!"
Methinks Alex Himelfarb and everybody knows that I have been doing that since Chretien was our Prime Minister N'esy Pas?
Maxim Verite
Michael Wernick has to be the least credible witness I've ever seen in my life.
@Jay Henryk Please do give us your insight as to his "factual Information"... "I don't recall... I wasn't wearing a wire..."
Cameron Kernick
@Maxim Verite After he said I wasn't wearing a wire when he couldn't recollect my next thought was he'd say "I like beer!" He felt as angry and arrogant as Kavanaugh.
David Amos
@Maxim Verite "Michael Wernick has to be the least credible witness I've ever seen in my life."
Methinks it should be a small wonder that none of them would testify under oath N'esy Pas?
'I made no threats': Key moments from the Privy Council clerk's testimony on the SNC-Lavalin affair
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Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick, right, and Justice Department Deputy Minister Nathalie Drouin appear before the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights regarding the SNC Lavalin affair on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on March 6, 2019. (Justin Tang/Canadian Press)
Michael Wernick, the most senior public servant in the country, has denied an accusation from former justice minister and attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould that he made "veiled threats" to pressure her to sign a plea bargain-like deal with the Quebec engineering firm SNC-Lavalin.
Wernick and deputy minister of justice Nathalie Drouin testified before the House of Commons justice committee on the SNC-Lavalin matter on Wednesday — in Wernick's case, for the second time.
This was Wernick's chance to address Wilson-Raybould's claim that he made "veiled threats" to pressure her to sign a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) for SNC-Lavalin during a December 2018 call. She told the committee that she felt that her conversation with Wernick implied a threat akin to the Watergate-era "Saturday Night Massacre" — that she would, in other words, have to either comply or resign.
Wernick said Wednesday that Wilson-Raybould did not face inappropriate pressure from anyone in the Prime Minister's Office or from him personally. Wernick said rather she was simply warned of the "consequences" of not signing an agreement — specifically, that some of the company's 9,000 employees could lose their jobs.
1. Wernick 'did not wear a wire'
While acknowledging he "did not wear a wire" or take contemporaneous notes on his conversations with the minister, and so could not definitively disprove Wilson-Raybould's testimony, Wernick insisted he did "not threaten the attorney general."
"I have never raised partisan considerations. I reminded her repeatedly she was the final decision-maker. I was giving her relevant context. I made no threats to the former attorney general. Period," he said.
CBC News
Michael Wernick: 'She was assured multiple times that she was the final decision maker.'
"The former minister agreed that entering into a deferred prosecution agreement was entirely lawful." 0:21
Wilson-Raybould testified that she reached a final conclusion on whether to pursue a DPA on Sept. 16, some 12 days after the director of public prosecutions is said to have made a similar decision. She maintains that her decision should have ended any intervention by other ministers or political staff.
When asked by Liberal MP Iqra Khalid if she thought that was sufficient time to adequately consider a DPA, Drouin said that was not for her to say. "She did say in her testimony that she did her due diligence. I was not part of that due diligence exercise," Drouin said.
Gerald Butts, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's former principal secretary, also testified Wednesday that he thought that timeline might have been too compressed for such an important decision.
2. 'Lawful advocacy'
Wernick said Wednesday the decision could never really be considered "final" until the delivery of a verdict in a criminal prosecution.
"It's never final. She could always take into consideration public interest considerations," Wernick said.
"The minister experienced lawful advocacy to consider doing something lawful in the public interest."
CBC News
Michael Wernick: 'The minister maintains that her decision, a decision to take no action, was final.'
"She had the ability, as new public interest considerations emerged, to reassess the context and re-examine her reasoning and that is the most she was ever asked to do." 0:52
Kathleen Roussel, the director of public prosecutions, herself gave the case a second look in October after the company presented new evidence.
Asked if a decision on this matter is rightfully considered "final" before there is a verdict in a criminal prosecution, Drouin said: "It's the responsibility of a prosecutor to asses and reassess ... in light of new facts and evidence put in front of the prosecutor."
3. Wilson-Raybould blocks PCO report
Drouin said she spoke with Wilson-Raybould the day after the minister's Sept. 17 meeting with Trudeau and Wernick on the issue.
Wilson-Raybould expressed discomfort over the meeting, Drouin said, adding she didn't have any further involvement with the file after Sept. 19 ("She asked me not to talk any more about the SNC-Lavalin case," the bureaucrat testified) — with one notable exception.
At the end of October, the Privy Council Office (PCO) asked her department for advice on the potential impact on SNC-Lavalin if a deferred prosecution agreement — which would have allowed the company to avoid a criminal trial on bribery charges — was not pursued. That advice was "not provided to PCO at the request of the minister's office," Drouin said.
"I was instructed not to send it," Drouin said. "My minister was not comfortable with us sharing it to PCO."
4. Wilson-Raybould was told DPA was 'lawful'
In early September, Drouin said she briefed the former attorney general on the possible legal options she could pursue on the SNC-Lavalin matter, including a DPA.
Drouin did not offer an opinion on whether a DPA was "appropriate" in this case, but said she told Wilson-Raybould that SNC-Lavalin could qualify for that sort of agreement if she decided to go that route.
CBC News
Michael Wernick: 'They are not a pariah, it was not improper to have conversations with the company.'
Conservative MP Lisa Raitt spars with Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick over his communications with SNC Lavalin. 2:03
"I cannot have an opinion. To make an opinion or not on a DPA, on a specific case, you have to be aware of the evidence and I have never been aware of the evidence [against the company]," she said. "It was her decision whether or not to use her authorities under the act.
"It's not an interference because they are powers provided under the act ... We respect the parameters, the first one being consultation with (Roussel)."
5. Wernick accused of partisanship
Wernick, a career public servant who has worked in senior roles under both Conservative and Liberal prime ministers, also defended himself against accusations from opposition parties that he acted in a partisan matter in his last appearance before the committee. He criticized comments from Conservative Sen. David Tkachuk and online vitriol directed at Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett.
CBC News
Michael Wernick: 'I am profoundly disappointed to be accused of partisanship.'
"I set this out because it has been suggested that I am part of someone's political agenda. I serve the government of the day." 0:54
He also defended the content of his last opening statement, which included a warning that a politician could get shot during the next election campaign because of the strident nature of social media political commentary. Wernick said he "stands by every word" of his warning.
"I am profoundly disappointed to be accused of partisanship," Wernick said. "I deplore the cyberbullying of politicians of all stripes."
Wernick also tabled with the committee evidence of some of the attacks he said have been directed at him since he last testified. He compared some of it, tweeted by Conservative and NDP MPs, to witness intimidation
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As soon as I read this nonsense I called Kathleen Roussel, the director of public prosecutions and two of her lawyers. I reminded them of the email I sent weeks ago then sent it AGAIN
Public Prosecution Service sends provocative tweet about 'political influence'
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Trust as soon as I read this nonsense I called Kathleen Roussel, the director of public prosecutions and two of her lawyers immediately and reminded them of the email I sent them week ago
Public Prosecution Service sends provocative tweet about 'political influence'
John Paul Tasker· CBC News·
The Public Prosecution Service of Canada sent out an attention-grabbing message about prosecutorial independence today. (Peter Scobie/CBC)
The Public Prosecution Service of Canada (PPSC) — the independent body that prosecutes federal offences and has played a role in the SNC-Lavalin affair — sent a tweet this morning saying its lawyers must be free to do their jobs without "political influence."
The tweet comes one day after the prime minister's former principal secretary, Gerry Butts, and Michael Wernick, the most senior bureaucrat in the country, testified before the Commons justice committee that they did not inappropriately pressure former attorney-general Jody Wilson-Raybould to negotiate a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) with the Quebec engineering firm after the PPSC refused to do just that.
Wilson-Raybould testified that she felt political motivations — namely, the Liberal Party's electoral fortunes in Quebec — were behind the push to secure a DPA for the large Quebec corporation.
A spokesperson for the PPSC said today the tweet was not related to the SNC-Lavalin affair.
Kathleen Roussel, the director of public prosecutions and the head of the PPSC, decided not to pursue a DPA for SNC-Lavalin and to proceed to a criminal trial on fraud and bribery charges. The Prime Minister's Office was concerned by this course of action, fearing a guilty verdict for the firm could lead to financial ruin and massive job losses. Wilson-Raybould has said she should have been free to make a final decision without interference.
The tweet was sent shortly after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau himself expressed regret over how the whole affair has unfolded.
Prosecutorial independence is key to our mandate. Our prosecutors must be objective, independent and dispassionate, as well as free from improper influence—including political influence. http://ow.ly/hNc450mDBSx
While the Twitter account for the prosecution service was first created in January 2019, it only posted its first message on the social media platform yesterday.
"The PPSC twitter account launched this week; a number of pre-written tweets explaining a little about the PPSC and its work are scheduled over the coming weeks," Nathalie Houle, a spokesperson for the PPSC, said in an emailed statement to CBC News.
The spokesperson said the tweet is not related to the SNC-Lavalin controversy and there is no pressing concern about the independence of prosecution in Canada.
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said today that, while he agrees with the sentiment expressed in the PPSC's tweet, it's "very troubling" that federal prosecutors felt the need to issue a statement like that amid the SNC-Lavalin uproar.
While I completely agree with the @PPSC_SPPC, it is very troubling that Justin Trudeau’s actions and attempts at interference have made such a statement necessary. Justin Trudeau has endangered the rule of law in Canada and must resign.
The office was created by the former Conservative government in 2006 to separate federal prosecutors from the other public servants who carry out legal and legislative work at the Department of Justice, and to further distance its functions from politicians in the wake of the sponsorship scandal.
The service was designed to "strengthen ... institutional independence and ultimate ministerial accountability," the PPSC website reads.
"On one hand, it was intended to enhance integrity in government by statutorily ensuring independence of the prosecution decision-making function from inappropriate political control, direction and influence. It enshrines in legislation the quasi-constitutional principle of independence of the prosecution function from the partisan political process."
While the service is independent, the attorney general is still responsible for its actions and has the power to intervene in legal proceedings and "assume conduct of a prosecution." To guard against interference and prevent abuse, these interventions must be made public.
For example, if Wilson-Raybould had pursued a DPA with SNC-Lavalin over the initial objections of the PPSC, she would have had to draft a document stating that for publication in the Canada Gazette, the official newspaper of the government of Canada where new acts, regulations and proclamations are published.
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---------- Original message ---------- From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 17:54:46 -0400 Subject: Fwd: RE Federal Court File No T-1557-15 and Dumb Fed Tweets ATTN John Macfarlane I just caled you and your boss Kathleen Roussel AGAIN To: Media@ppsc.gc.ca, info@ppsc.gc.ca Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
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David Amos Trust as soon as I read this nonsense I called Kathleen Roussel, the director of public prosecutions and two of her lawyers immediately and reminded them of the email I sent them week ago
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Jensen, Jan"<jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 01:09:24 +0000 Subject: Automatic reply: RE Federal Court File No T-1557-15 and my many calls and emails about my concerns about the lack of Integrity of the RCMP, Justin Trudeau, Ralph Goodale, Frank McKenna, Michael.Wernick Paul Shuttle, Daniel Jean, Malcolm Brown and legio... To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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On 2/16/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote: > https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/pco-lawyer-asked-prosecutor-if-there.html > > > > https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-cabinet-leak-trial-prosecution-1.5021156 > > "As he spoke, Justice Perkins-McVey flipped through the censored > version of the meeting notes and asked, "What about comments from Paul > Shuttle, like, 'Is there a way to engineer the issues at stake?'" > > The Crown did file an uncensored version with the courts on Friday. > > MacFarlane insisted the meetings were meant to identify a potential > witness who could speak to the issue of cabinet confidences. Norman is > accused of leaking cabinet secrets related to a $668 million > shipbuilding deal to lease a supply ship for the navy in 2015. > > The judge seemed skeptical of that explanation." > > > Henri Bianchi > Exactly how does one "engineer" the legal issues in judicial proceedings? > > Unless there is a proper explanation this stinks. > > > David Amos > @Henri Bianchi Methinks everybody knows that my documents filed in the > docket of the Federal Court of Canada easily prove that the PCO lawyer > Paul Shuttle has been engineering the legal issues in judicial > proceedings against me for years The strange part is that Admiral > Norman's lawyers know it as well N'esy Pas? > > > > > > Don Cameron > If the top lawyer at the Privy Council Office asked federal > prosecutors if it was possible to "engineer the issues at stake" in > the criminal case against Vice-Admiral Mark Norman, that seems like > the very definition of 'political interference'. > > What on earth is wrong with this Prime Minister's PCO and PMO? > The buck stops with Trudeau. > > John Nelson > @Don Cameron Arrogance is the main problem. Plus the prime minister > actually believes his own nonsense. Well, actually I'm not sure the PM > knows or believes anything. He's just a talking (empty) head for his > handlers. > > David Amos > @Don Cameron "The buck stops with Trudeau." > > That is true but the PCO lawyer Paul Shuttle and his latest boss knows > the ball started rolling between the RCMP, the PMO and the PCO and I > in 1982 when Trudeau The Elder was the Prime Minister > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:53:29 -0400 > Subject: RE Federal Court File No T-1557-15 and my many calls and > emails about my concerns about the lack of Integrity of the RCMP, > Justin Trudeau, Ralph Goodale, Frank McKenna, Michael.Wernick Paul > Shuttle, Daniel Jean, Malcolm Brown and legions of others > To: "Michael.Wernick"<Michael.Wernick@pco-bcp.gc.ca>, > Paul.Shuttle@pco-bcp.gc.ca, Daniel.Jean@pco-bcp.gc.ca, "Malcolm.Brown" > <Malcolm.Brown@ps-sp.gc.ca>, scott.bardsley@canada.ca, > bbusson@telus.net, info@pic.alberta.ca, Gina.Wilson@cfc-swc.gc.ca, > tcooksearson@llrib.ca, tammy@tansi.ca, slandry@clc-ctc.ca, > WPS-PIO@winnipeg.ca, manuelle.oudar@cnesst.gouv.qc.ca, > "hon.ralph.goodale"<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Frank.McKenna" > <Frank.McKenna@td.com>, jkee <jkee@google.com> > Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Norman.Sabourin" > <Norman.Sabourin@cjc-ccm.gc.ca>, "marc.giroux" > <marc.giroux@fja-cmf.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau"<Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, > "bill.pentney"<bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "brian.hodgson" > <brian.hodgson@assembly.ab.ca>, danielle.antoniuk@assembly.ab.ca, > postur <postur@for.is>, "Gilles.Blinn"<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, > "Gilles.Moreau"<Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca> > > Daniel Jean > National Security and Intelligence > Advisor to the Prime Minister > 59 Sparks St, Ottawa, Ontario > Telephone Number 613-957-5056 > Daniel.Jean@pco-bcp.gc.ca, > > Malcolm Brown > Deputy Minister for Public Safety Canada. > 269 Laurier Avenue West > Telephone Number 613-991-2895 > Email Malcolm.Brown@ps-sp.gc.ca > > Beverley Busson. > RCMP Commissioner (retired). > Phone: 250-320-8984. > Email: bbusson@telus.net > > Marianne Ryan > Public Interest Commissioner > 9925 – 109 Street, Suite 700 > Edmonton, AB T5K 2J8 > Phone: 780-641-8659 > info@pic.alberta.ca > > https://www.assembly.ab.ca/Announcements/NewsReleases/2017/NewsRelease_OmbudsmanPICSwearingIn_July2017.pdf > > Danielle Antoniuk, Communications Officer > Legislative Assembly Office > Mobile: 780.886.5637 > Office: 780.643.2252 > Email: danielle.antoniuk@assembly.ab.ca > > > Gina Wilson > Deputy Minister for Status of Women Canada. > 269 Laurier Avenue West > Telephone Number 819-420-6801 > Email Gina.Wilson@cfc-swc.gc.ca > > > > http://llrib.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/LLRIB-Phone-Directory-updated-April-28-2017.pdf > > Tammy Cook-Searson > Chief, Lac La Ronge First Nation Indian Band > Telephone Numbers 306 425 1132 ext 225 > 306 425-8144 > Emails tcooksearson@llrib.ca > tammy@tansi.ca > > http://www.irsst.qc.ca/en/institute/organization/organigram/board > > Contact us 514 288-1551 communications@irsst.qc.ca > > Madame Manuelle OUDAR > Chef de la direction > Québec (Québec) G1K 7E2 > 524, rue Bourdages, 2e étage > Téléphone :(418) 266-4637 > Courriel : manuelle.oudar@cnesst.gouv.qc.ca > > > Devon Clunis as close as I could get to him was here > > Kelly Dehn, Manager of Public Affairs > Office: 204-986-3061 > E-mail: WPS-PIO@winnipeg.ca > > Barbara Byers as close as I could get to her was here > > http://canadianlabour.ca/about-clc/contact-us > > Atlantic Region > 1718 Argyle Street, Suite 420 > Halifax, NS B3J 3N6 > Telephone: 902-455-2965 > Fax: 902-455-9130 > Email: atlantic@clc-ctc.ca > > Representatives: > Serge Landry (NB & PEI) > slandry@clc-ctc.ca > > http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/to-be-perfectly-frank-everybody-and-his.html > > Wednesday, 22 November 2017 > To be Perfectly Frank Everybody and His Dog Knows That Its a > Monumental LIEbrano Joke On Us All to have the Bankster Franky Boy > McKenna And Corrupt Ex Cops Pick The Next Boss of the RCMP > > http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/government-of-canada-announces-committee-members-involved-in-the-selection-of-new-rcmp-commissioner-659069513.html > > Government of Canada announces committee members involved in the > selection of new RCMP Commissioner > > News provided by > Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Canada > Nov 21, 2017, 09:40 ET > > OTTAWA, Nov. 20, 2017 /CNW/ - The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) > is a vital component of both our public safety and our national > security. Moreover, it is an institution that embodies the best of > what Canada and Canadians aspire to be – upstanding, loyal and > committed to the pursuit of justice. > > This past summer, the Honourable Ralph Goodale, Minister of Public > Safety and Emergency Preparedness, named Mr. Frank McKenna as Chair of > the Selection Committee to select a new RCMP Commissioner. The > Committee is an independent, non-partisan body whose mandate it is to > develop and recommend a list of highly qualified candidates for the > Minister's consideration, based upon which he will make his > recommendation to the Prime Minister. > > Today, Minister Goodale announced the remaining members of the > Selection Committee: > > Daniel Jean – National Security and Intelligence Advisor to the > Prime Minister, Privy Council Office > Malcolm Brown – Deputy Minister, Public Safety Canada > Gina Wilson – Deputy Minister, Status of Women Canada > Beverley Busson – former Interim Commissioner, RCMP > Marianne Ryan – former Deputy Commissioner, RCMP > Tammy Cook-Searson – Chief, Lac La Ronge First Nation Indian Band > Devon Clunis – former Chief, Winnipeg Police Service > Barbara Byers – former Secretary-Treasurer, Canadian Labour Congress > Manuelle Oudar – Chair of the Board of Directors and Chief > Executive Officer, Board of Workplace Standards, Equity, Health and > Safety (CNESST) > > The Minister announced that the search firm Boyden Ottawa has been > engaged to support the Committee and also made public the Selection > Committee's Terms of Reference which were reviewed by Committee > members. > > Applications are being reviewed and highly qualified applicants who > best meet the selection criteria will be invited to an interview and > further assessments. > > Quote > "I look forward to receiving the list of outstanding individuals the > Selection Committee will propose for the position of RCMP > Commissioner. This is an essential position in helping ensure public > safety and national security, and the Prime Minister and I are > determined to move deliberately to fill it." > > - The Honourable Ralph Goodale, Minister of Public Safety and > Emergency Preparedness > > Facts > > On February 25, 2016, the Government of Canada announced a new, > more rigorous approach to Governor in Council appointments, which > supports open, transparent and merit-based selection processes that > are open to all Canadians. > To this end, selection committees are established to assess and > recommend candidates for appointment to various Governor in Council > positions. > Selection committee membership is based on two considerations: who > is responsible for making the appointment recommendation, and who can > bring a perspective on the needs of the organization. > > Related Product > > Terms of Reference: Selection Committee for the Position of > Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police > > Associated Links > > An update on the process for selecting the new Commissioner of the > Royal Canadian Mounted Police > Governor in Council appointments > Current Opportunity: Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, > Appointment Opportunity > > > SOURCE Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Canada > For further information: Scott Bardsley, Office of the Minister of > Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, 613-998-5681; Media > Relations, Public Safety Canada, 613-991-0657, > media@ps-sp.gc.ca > > > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: Scott.Bardsley@parl.gc.ca > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 15:30:38 +0000 > Subject: Automatic reply: Re The CBC and Federal Court File no T-1557-15 > FYI I just called Steven Webb in Saint John and he denied the fact > that CBC is supposed to be non paristan > To: motomaniac333@gmail.com > > Please resend your message to scott.bardsley@canada.ca as my primary > work account has changed. > > Scott > > *** > > SVP envoyer votre message ? scott.bardsley@canada.ca > Mon compte de bureau a chang?. > > Scott > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:19:55 -0400 > Subject: RE Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Need I say that Bob Kerr > was not wise to call me and make LIAR out of himself??? > To: jean.mongeau@radio-canada.ca, sandra.hammond@cbc.ca, > "hon.melanie.joly"<hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca>, andrea.laton@cbc.ca, > julie.bruk@cbc.ca > Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, oldmaison > <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, nmoore > <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>, "jeremy.keefe"<jeremy.keefe@globalnews.ca>, > jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com> > > Jean Mongeau > General Manager & Chief Revenue Officer > Email: jean.mongeau@radio-canada.ca > Phone: (514) 597-4281 > > Sandra Hammond > Senior Director, Revenue Optimization & Strategic Operations > Email: sandra.hammond@cbc.ca > Phone: (416) 205-7215 > > Andrea Laton > Director, Strategic Operations > Email: andrea.laton@cbc.ca > Phone: (416) 205-3957 > Fax: (416) 205-2497 > > Julie Bruk > Director of Finance > Email: julie.bruk@cbc.ca > Phone: (416) 205-7298 > Fax: 416-205-2126 > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michael Cohen mcohen@trumporg.com > Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:15:14 +0000 > Subject: Automatic reply: RE FATCA ATTN Pierre-Luc.Dusseault I just > called and left a message for you > To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com > > Effective January 20, 2017, I have accepted the role as personal > counsel to President Donald J. 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(AOL) > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> > > I will be AOL until July 6th 2017. > > I will not have access to Groupwise. > > I may be reached at my personal e-mail thebouchards15@gmail.com > depending on data coverage. > > ********************************************************* > > Je vais être en vacances jusqu'au 6 Juillet 2017. > > Je n'aurais pas accès a mon GroupWise. > > Il est possible que je vérifies mon courriel personnel > thebouchards15@gmail.com de temps à autre. > > Cpl.Patrick Bouchard > RSC 5 RCMP-GRC > Sunny-Corner Detachment > English/Français > Off: 506-836-6015 > Cell : 506-424-0071 > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Washington Field"<washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:13 PM > To: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, > Subject: RE: Attn Cst Paul Lynch RE Federal Court File no T-1557-15 > and your continued support of Barry Winters and his malevolent cohorts > for one year since you first contacted me. > > The FBI Washington Field Office is in receipt of your emails. 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Please notice that not after the Sgt >> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker >> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document. >> >> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I >> suggested that you study closely. >> >> This is the docket in Federal Court >> >> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T >> >> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings >> >> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug >> >> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015 >> >> April 3rd, 2017 >> >> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing >> >> >> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal >> >> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All >> >> >> The only hearing thus far >> >> May 24th, 2017 >> >> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown >> >> >> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity >> >> Date: 20151223 >> >> Docket: T-1557-15 >> >> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015 >> >> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell >> >> BETWEEN: >> >> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS >> >> Plaintiff >> >> and >> >> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN >> >> Defendant >> >> ORDER >> >> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on >> December 14, 2015) >> >> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to >> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November >> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim >> in its entirety. >> >> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a >> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then >> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian >> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg, >> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter >> he stated: >> >> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the >> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you. >> You are your brother’s keeper. >> >> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former >> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to >> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of >> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses >> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to >> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime >> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former >> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of >> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore; >> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former >> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff >> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court >> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired >> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted >> Police. >> >> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my >> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many >> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am >> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I >> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in >> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al, >> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding >> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has >> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so. >> >> >> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of >> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There >> is no order as to costs. >> >> “B. Richard Bell” >> Judge >> >> >> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment >> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent >> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006. >> >> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court >> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the >> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my >> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada? >> >> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the >> most >> >> >> ---------- Original message ---------- >> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca >> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM >> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in >> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to >> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you >> dudes are way past too late >> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com >> >> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à >> lalanthier@hotmail.com >> >> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à >> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca >> >> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at >> lalanthier@hotmail.com >> >> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to >> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca >> >> Thank you, >> >> Merci , >> >> >> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html >> >> >> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war >> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to >> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over >> five years after he began his bragging: >> >> January 13, 2015 >> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate >> >> December 8, 2014 >> Why Canada Stood Tall! >> >> Friday, October 3, 2014 >> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And >> Stupid Justin Trudeau >> >> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide >> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts. >> >> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien >> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign >> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to >> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were >> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were >> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth >> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for >> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute” >> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind. >> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not >> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a >> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to >> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was >> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But >> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s >> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s >> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic, >> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle >> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway >> campaign of 2006. >> >> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then >> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the >> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent, >> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament. >> >> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling >> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of >> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners >> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a >> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make. >> >> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have >> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war. >> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by >> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is >> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of >> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government >> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this >> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a >> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East. >> >> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror >> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state” >> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control, >> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The >> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and >> >> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of >> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have >> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical. >> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me. >> >> Subject: >> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400 >> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca >> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com >> >> January 30, 2007 >> >> WITHOUT PREJUDICE >> >> Mr. David Amos >> >> Dear Mr. Amos: >> >> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29, >> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP. >> >> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have >> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve >> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Honourable Michael B. Murphy >> Minister of Health >> >> CM/cb >> >> >> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote: >> >> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500 >> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca, >> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net, >> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com >> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca, >> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, >> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has >> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not >> >> Dear Mr. Amos, >> >> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off >> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I >> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns. >> >> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position >> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process >> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the >> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these >> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this >> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done. >> >> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false >> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear >> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada >> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment >> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB. >> >> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on >> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Warren McBeath, Cpl. >> GRC Caledonia RCMP >> Traffic Services NCO >> Ph: (506) 387-2222 >> Fax: (506) 387-4622 >> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >> >> >> >> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C., >> Office of the Integrity Commissioner >> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street >> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1 >> tel.: 506-457-7890 >> fax: 506-444-5224 >> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> >> Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM >> Subject: RE My complaint against the CROWN in Federal Court Attn David >> Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to submit a motion for a >> publication ban on my complaint trust that you dudes are way past too >> late >> To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, "peter.mackay" >> <peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca>, >> "peacock.kurt"<peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.com>, "mclaughlin.heather" >> < >> mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com>, "david.akin" >> <david.akin@sunmedia.ca>, >> "robert.frater"<robert.frater@justice.gc.ca>, >> paul.riley@ppsc-sppc.gc.ca, >> greg@gregdelbigio.com, joyce.dewitt-vanoosten@gov.bc.ca, >> joan.barrett@ontario.ca, jean-vincent.lacroix@gouv.qc.ca, >> peter.rogers@mcinnescooper.com, mfeder@mccarthy.ca, mjamal@osler.com >> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, gopublic >> <gopublic@cbc.ca>, >> Whistleblower <Whistleblower@ctv.ca> >> >> >> https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/14439/index.do >> >> http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/WebDocuments-DocumentsWeb/35072/FM030_Respondent_Attorney-General-of-Canada-on-Behalf-of-the-United-States-of-America.pdf >> >> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html >> >> I repeat what the Hell do I do with the Yankee wiretapes taps sell >> them on Ebay or listen to them and argue them with you dudes in >> Feferal Court? >> >> Petey Baby loses all parliamentary privelges in less than a month but >> he still supposed to be an ethical officer of the Court CORRECT? >> >> Veritas Vincit >> David Raymond Amos >> 902 800 0369 >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> >> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400 >> Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in >> the USDOJ for me will ya? >> To: RBauer <RBauer@perkinscoie.com>, sshimshak@paulweiss.com, >> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith <msmith@svlaw.com>, bginsberg >> <bginsberg@pattonboggs.com>, "gregory.craig" >> <gregory.craig@skadden.com>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "bob.paulson" >> <bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "bob.rae" >> <bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net>, MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, leader >> <leader@greenparty.ca> >> Cc: alevine@cooley.com, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, >> michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com >> >> QSLS Politics >> By Location Visit Detail >> Visit 29,419 >> Domain Name usdoj.gov ? (U.S. Government) >> IP Address 149.101.1.# (US Dept of Justice) >> ISP US Dept of Justice >> Location Continent : North America >> Country : United States (Facts) >> State : District of Columbia >> City : Washington >> Lat/Long : 38.9097, -77.0231 (Map) >> Language English (U.S.) en-us >> Operating System Microsoft WinXP >> Browser Internet Explorer 8.0 >> Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET >> CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; >> DI60SP1001) >> Javascript version 1.3 >> Monitor Resolution : 1024 x 768 >> Color Depth : 32 bits >> Time of Visit Nov 17 2012 6:33:08 pm >> Last Page View Nov 17 2012 6:33:08 pm >> Visit Length 0 seconds >> Page Views 1 >> Referring URL http://www.google.co...wwWJrm94lCEqRmovPXJg >> Search Engine google.com >> Search Words david amos bernie madoff >> Visit Entry Page http://qslspolitics....-wendy-olsen-on.html >> Visit Exit Page http://qslspolitics....-wendy-olsen-on.html >> Out Click >> Time Zone UTC-5:00 >> Visitor's Time Nov 17 2012 12:33:08 pm >> Visit Number 29,419 >> >> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html >> >> >> Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its >> because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it yet >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> >> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:36:04 -0400 >> Subject: This is a brief as I can make my concerns Randy >> To: randyedmunds <randyedmunds@gov.nl.ca> >> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> >> >> In a nutshell my concerns about the actions of the Investment Industry >> affect the interests of every person in every district of every >> country not just the USA and Canada. I was offering to help you with >> Emera because my work with them and Danny Williams is well known and >> some of it is over eight years old and in the PUBLIC Record. >> >> All you have to do is stand in the Legislature and ask the MInister of >> Justice why I have been invited to sue Newfoundland by the >> Conservatives >> >> >> Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is the >> link to Madoff and Putnam Investments >> >> Here is why >> >> http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2 >> >> Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate >> Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice >> Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the >> following file >> >> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf >> >> http://occupywallst.org/users/DavidRaymondAmos/ >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Hansen, David"<David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca> >> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:28:44 +0000 >> Subject: RE: I just called again Mr Hansen >> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> >> >> Hello Mr. Amos, >> >> I manage the Justice Canada civil litigation section in the Atlantic >> region. We are only responsible for litigating existing civil >> litigation files in which the Attorney General of Canada is a named >> defendant or plaintiff. If you are a plaintiff or defendant in an >> existing civil litigation matter in the Atlantic region in which >> Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant or plaintiff please >> provide the court file number, the names of the parties in the action >> and your question. I am not the appropriate contact for other >> matters. >> >> Thanks >> >> David A. Hansen >> Regional Director | Directeur régional >> General Counsel |Avocat général >> Civil Litigation and Advisory | Contentieux des affaires civiles et >> services de consultation >> Department of Justice | Ministère de la Justice >> Suite 1400 – Duke Tower | Pièce 1400 – Tour Duke >> 5251 Duke Street | 5251 rue Duke >> Halifax, Nova Scotia | Halifax, Nouvelle- Écosse >> B3J 1P3 >> david.hansen@justice.gc.ca >> Telephone | Téléphone (902) 426-3261 / Facsimile | Télécopieur (902) >> 426-2329 >> This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by solicitor-client >> privilege. Unauthorized distribution or disclosure is prohibited. If >> you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us and delete >> this entire e-mail. >> Before printing think about the Environment >> Thinking Green, please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. >> Pensez vert, svp imprimez que si nécessaire. >> >> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> >>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:23:24 -0300 >>> Subject: ATTN FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers Have you talked to >>> your buddies Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly about the wiretap tapes YET? >>> To: boston@ic.fbi.gov, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov, "bob.paulson" >>> <bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Kevin.leahy" >>> <Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, >>> us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney >>> <jcarney@carneybassil.com>, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net >>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, birgittaj >>> <birgittaj@althingi.is>, shmurphy@globe.com, Red Ice Creations >>> <redicecreations@gmail.com> >>> >>> FBI Boston >>> One Center Plaza >>> Suite 600 >>> Boston, MA 02108 >>> Phone: (617) 742-5533 >>> Fax: (617) 223-6327 >>> E-mail: Boston@ic.fbi.gov >>> >>> Hours >>> Although we operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, our normal >>> "walk-in" business hours are from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday >>> through Friday. If you need to speak with a FBI representative at any >>> time other than during normal business hours, please telephone our >>> office at (617) 742-5533. >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> >>> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300 >>> Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is >>> finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap >>> tapes Sell them on Ebay? >>> To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov, >>> Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney <jcarney@carneybassil.com>, >>> bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, michael wolfheart >>> <wolfheartlodge@live.com>, jonathan.albano@bingham.com, >>> shmurphy@globe.com, mvalencia@globe.com >>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, oldmaison >>> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com >>> >>> http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/05/james-whitey-bulger-jury-selection-process-enters-second-day/KjS80ofyMMM5IkByK74bkK/story.html >>> >>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html >>> >>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask >>> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING???? >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY >>> >>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the >>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball >>> cards? >>> >>> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc >>> >>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006 >>> >>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html >>> >>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139 >>> >>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143 >>> >>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006 >>> Senator Arlen Specter >>> United States Senate >>> Committee on the Judiciary >>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building >>> Washington, DC 20510 >>> >>> Dear Mr. Specter: >>> >>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man >>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters >>> raised in the attached letter. >>> >>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap >>> tapes. >>> >>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously. >>> >>> Very truly yours, >>> Barry A. Bachrach >>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403 >>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003 >>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> >>> To: "Rob Talach"<rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing >>> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why >>> >>> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean >>> a lot to you >>> >>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> >>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400 >>> Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau What say you NOW >>> Bernadine Chapman?? >>> To: Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, phil.giles@statcan.ca, >>> maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca, >>> bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, >>> david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca, >>> denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca, webo >>> <webo@xplornet.com>, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, >>> rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1 >>> <toewsv1@parl.gc.ca>, "Nycole.Turmel"<Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca>, >>> Clemet1 <Clemet1@parl.gc.ca>, maritime_malaise >>> <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>, oig <oig@sec.gov>, whistleblower >>> <whistleblower@finra.org>, whistle <whistle@fsa.gov.uk>, david >>> <david@fairwhistleblower.ca> >>> Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, >>> bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "justin.trudeau.a1" >>> <justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca>, "Juanita.Peddle" >>> <Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, >>> "Wayne.Lang"<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Robert.Trevors" >>> <Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca>, "ian.fahie"<ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca> >>> >>> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm >>> >>> http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf >>> >>> From: Gilles Moreau <Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca> >>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy >>> Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH >>> Constable Peddle??? >>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> >>> >>> Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails. >>> >>> Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC >>> Director General >>> HR Transformation >>> 73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502 >>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2 >>> >>> Tel 613-843-6039 >>> Cel 613-818-6947 >>> >>> Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC >>> Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines >>> 73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502 >>> Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2 >>> >>> tél 613-843-6039 >>> cel 613-818-6947 >>> gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >>> >
The scandal surrounding Prime Minister Justin Trudeau shows just how cozy the country’s elite really is.
By Jen Gerson
Ms. Gerson is a Canadian political journalist.
Justin Trudeau, prime minister of Canada, with his former principal secretary, Gerald Butts, last year.CreditCreditJustin Tang/Associated Press
CALGARY, Alberta — There is a particularly quaint element to Canada — our smallness, our politeness, our insularity — that makes many people, including many Canadians, assume the best about our country and ourselves. As if these qualities make us inherently purer than other, more populous countries.
It’s true that Canadians are a trusting, generous lot who generally believe in the greater good, institutions and the rule of law. Consequently, the country is prone to imagining itself more bound by a mythology of its own goodness than it actually is. But there’s a darker side to Canada’s smallness. Our tiny network of political, business and intellectual elite is insular and concentrated.
The scandal now enveloping Prime Minister Justin Trudeau — a bilingual, feminist, pro-multicultural liberal who embodies much of what we like to celebrate in our national character — should put an end to this.
At its heart, the SNC-Lavalin scandal that threatens Mr. Trudeau’s leadership is about political interference in our judicial system. The Globe and Mail first reported in early February that last fall, the prime minister and his office pressured Jody Wilson-Raybould, then the justice minister and attorney general, to seek a Deferred Prosecution Agreement, which is equivalent to a plea bargain, for SNC-Lavalin, a politically well-connected civil engineering firm based in Montreal.
SNC-Lavalin has been at the center of corruption scandals for decades. (In 2013, the World Bank debarred the company and more than 100 of its affiliates for 10 years, single-handedly putting Canada at the top of the bank’s corruption list.) In this latest scandal, the company faces criminal charges for bribing Libyan officials, including Muammar el-Qaddafi’s son, with millions of dollars to secure contracts in Libya.
The Deferred Prosecution Agreement would permit SNC-Lavalin to avoid criminal prosecution, allowing it to continue to bid for domestic government contracts. Without this, the company might face existential peril.
The only person in Mr. Trudeau’s cabinet who seemed to push back was Ms. Wilson-Raybould. In January, she was put in charge of the veterans affairs ministry, effectively a demotion.
Last week, she went public, speaking before a House of Commons committee about the pressure she’d been under to cut a deal with SNC-Lavalin. For hours, she delivered extensive testimony, citing notes and texts, detailing inappropriate levels of political interference in a criminal proceeding.
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Her account was impossible to reconcile with Mr. Trudeau’s previous flat denials. The prime minister and his defenders have come across as weak and dishonest, more interested in protecting a Quebec-based corporation than in the independence of the judiciary. His government is now in chaos. On Monday, one of his key cabinet ministers, Jane Philpott, resigned, saying she had“lost confidence in how the government has dealt with this matter and in how it has responded to the issues raised.”
Mr. Trudeau came to power in 2015 on the promise of a new, revitalized Liberal Party, removed from the stale old boys’ club of yore. The party, though it imagines itself as representing the quintessential ideals of Canadiana, has a long track record of corruption and chicanery, particularly in Quebec.
With an electoral base in the country’s most heavily populated regions, like Quebec, the Liberals have enjoyed many decades in power. It is not without merit that they are referred to, derisively, as Canada’s Natural Governing Party.
Power brings with it certain habits. This is true everywhere, but in a democratic country with a population the size of California spread across a gigantic landmass, influence runs in a geographic network that we describe in shorthand as the Laurentian Elite, after the St. Lawrence River that runs through eastern Canada. Mr. Trudeau, the son of former Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau, is very much a creature of this elite.
And so is SNC-Lavalin. Not just any company gets its calls taken by the prime minister’s office. Founded in 1911, SNC-Lavalin is a crown jewel in the Quebec corporate firmament. The company’s lobbyists have long ties in both Conservative and Liberal governments. Its lawyers include a former Supreme Court justice. A retired senior federal official is on its board. One of its corporate directors also sits on the board of the Trudeau Foundation. Quebec’s public pension funds own about 20 percent of SNC-Lavalin’s shares.
The decision about SNC-Lavalin’s case was being made in the lead-up to Quebec’s Oct. 1 provincial election — and that was apparently on the prime minister’s mind. According to Ms. Wilson-Raybould’s testimony, senior staff members from Mr. Trudeau’s office said the company was threatening to relocate to London if it did not get the plea deal. One such staffer, she said, told her “if they don’t get a D.P.A., they will leave Montreal, and it’s the Quebec election right now, so we can’t have that happen.”
Ms. Wilson-Raybould recounted a conversation with Mr. Trudeau: “At that point the prime minister jumped in, stressing that there is an election in Quebec and that ‘I am an M.P. in Quebec — the member for Papineau,’” she said. When she asked if he was trying to override her independence as attorney general, she said, the prime minister replied, “‘No, no, no, we just need to find a solution.’ ”
Ms. Wilson-Raybould was the first First Nations person to be appointed justice minister. She is a member of Parliament from Vancouver, British Columbia, to boot. By virtue of this background, she is not someone who has been historically well represented in the cozy corridors of Canadian power. Why should she care about SNC-Lavalin? Why would she stake her independence and her reputation on the company’s survival?
It’s no coincidence that she was replaced at the justice ministry by David Lametti, a member of Parliament from Montreal who even now has not ruled out saving SNC-Lavalin with a Deferred Prosecution Agreement. The rule of law is a very grand Canadian virtue until, it seems, it proves to be a barrier to Liberal electoral prospects in Quebec. It is a small country, after all.
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada is embroiled in a scandal involving accusations of back-room deal-making and bullying tactics, all to support a Canadian company accused of bribing the Libyan government.CreditCreditJason Alden/Bloomberg
Justin Trudeau came to office in 2015 by the high road, exuding charm, confidence, integrity and an openness to change. He filled his cabinet with women and minorities, opened Canada’s doors to immigrants and posed for endless selfies with adoring crowds. But in politics the fresher the face, the more obvious the blemishes.
With seven months to go before Canada’s next national election, the prime minister is embroiled in a political scandal that his charm cannot wipe away. Two members of his cabinet, both prominent women, have resigned, as has his closest adviser, and unless he can convince the public — and do so soon — that he really did nothing wrong in trying to head off the criminal prosecution of a big Montreal-based company, the damage will only get more serious.
The crisis unfolded after The Globe and Mail newspaper reported on Feb. 7 that Jody Wilson-Raybould, Mr. Trudeau’s former justice minister and attorney general, had come under improper pressure from the prime minister’s office to reach a negotiated settlement with a multinational engineering firm, SNC-Lavalin, instead of prosecuting it on criminal charges it faces over its business dealings in Libya. Conviction would bar it from government contracts for a decade.
The case centers on accusations that SNC-Lavalin paid 47.7 million Canadian dollars in bribes to officials in Libya to win contracts there, and defrauded the Libyan government and its agencies of 129.8 million Canadian dollars. Libya at the time was led by the dictator Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.
In the fallout that followed, Ms. Wilson-Raybould resigned from the cabinet, and in testimony to a parliamentary committee last week she described how Mr. Trudeau and his staff had pressed her not to prosecute the firm, citing the company’s threat to slash thousands of jobs or leave Canada entirely. Mr. Trudeau reportedly told her that the loss of those jobs would hurt the ruling Liberal Party in future elections. Of course, companies facing litigation, taxation or other costs of doing business often make such threats.
Then on Monday another high-profile government minister, Jane Philpott, abruptly resigned as president of the Treasury Board, saying she had lost confidence in the Trudeau government’s handling of the affair. “I must abide by my core values, my ethical responsibilities and constitutional obligations,” Ms. Philpott said in a letter to the prime minister. “There can be a cost to acting on one’s principles, but there is a bigger cost to abandoning them.”
All along, Mr. Trudeau has denied doing anything wrong. He acknowledges that he spoke to Ms. Wilson-Raybould about the SNC-Lavalin case but argues that the discussions were well within the bounds of the rules. His defenders note that charges were not dropped against the company and that a prime minister should show concern about the potential loss of 9,000 jobs. The issue, moreover, was never about dropping charges, but about allowing the firm to pay a fine instead of facing a criminal prosecution.
Looked at from south of the Canadian border, the entire matter may seem trivial alongside any of the many accusations levied at President Trump, or of the pressures routinely applied by politicians on behalf of powerful companies.
But in Canada, the tangled SNC-Lavalin affair is unavoidably measured against the expectations Mr. Trudeau raised and the standards he set. For him to be accused by two prominent women from his team of violating the high ethical bar he himself set is a major blow, at the least to his brand.
Mr. Trudeau is not likely to be compelled to resign over the issue. But the degree of political damage he sustains, and how the scandal affects the October elections, depend on whether he can convince Canadians, in an open venue and in detail, that he did no wrong.
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Methinks it was wise for mean little Mikey Wernick to enlist a lawyer before he testified again However the lawyer should have told him to clam up N'esy Pas?
Top bureaucrat gets profane messages after defending government on SNC-Lavalin
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David Borges
Could I be allowed to suggest that Mr. Wernick, MAY have contributed to the situation by a) making the mere suggestion of said 'vomitoriums', and b) his over the top remarks that were clearly taken to be partisan in nature - considering the nature of the office he holds. Maybe Mr. Wernick has noone to blame except himself.
@David Borges Maybe Mr. Wernick has noone to blame except himself.
YUP
James Holden
@David Borges
Happy Birthday
Multiple accts eh.
David Amos
@Richard Sharp "Blame the victim? Typical Conservative response."
Methinks everybody knows that I am no Conservative but obviously I do enjoy laughing at your desperate nonsense N'esy Pas?
Stanley Baird
@David Borges this guy should stop talking and hire a lawyer. The RMCP is investigating and the whole group of them have been implicated by their own puzzling defence of their indefensible political interference in the courts.
Felicia Kinzburg
@David Borges I can't understand how such... let's be polite... not very smart man went so high in his career. I also wondering if he knows how fast the Internet spreads, and copies, and shares, and dislikes every word he pronounced. Hundreds of thousand people heard/read his...hmmm... not so carefully worded... statement at the first committee hearing... and he got eight profanity filled messages. Really? Only eight? The Internet was very kind to him.
Phil Mein
@James Fitzgibbon Look the "far right " is as idiotic as the "far left" , the adults who are Conservative or Liberal that can rationalise facts are the ones that are pissed off. Defending unethical behaviour for partisan reasons is just a character flaw people need to address with themselves, no belittle us all by trying to convince us nothing is wrong.
Richard McDonell
@James Fitzgibbon James. Right, just dumb it down to which ever side of the political spectrum you have chosen to hate. "The far right is so predictable." And the far left isn't?
M K
@David Borges Your also allowed to voice displeasure and concern with the big lobby minority conservative Scheer party who easily make Trudeau and the Liberals the best thing that has happened to Canada in a while...but some minority Canadians like him and Doug Ford because they mimic a Trump alt right polarization agenda..works out fine for the rich and no one else...bigotry is blind
Charly Vaughan
@David Borges when SNCL offer him a position on Libya?
David Amos
@Felicia Kinzburg "The Internet was very kind to him."
Oh So True
David Amos
@Stanley Baird "this guy should stop talking and hire a lawyer."
Methinks Wernick said he enlisted a lawyer before he testified again but not under oath as usual N'esy Pas?
Adam Smith
As a formal senior civil servant, I was embarrassed by his testimony. I have given evidence twice at Parliamentary Committees - and have appeared many times in estimates - and I can't ever imagine behaving like this man did. How can he be our top civil servant.
@Danny Tanker "No one threatened Harper, not here, but that is still OK for you? This is the Canada you want?"
Not a particular fan of Harper, but I have to say that your memory is either short, or selective, or both. He was a lightening rod for mouth frothing hatred.
Maxim Verite
Perhaps if Mr Wernick wasn't so belligerent and clearly partisan when he appeared before the committee, people wouldn't be so deeply offended.
@Al Purves Who was Wernick talking to Kevin Lynch Harper's former clerk of the PCO and now he Chair of SNC-Lavalin?
Raymond Kranzel
Mean people on the internet? Say what?
David Amos
@Raymond Kranzel It true i saw some dude named Wernick yapping up a storm on this website about a vomitorium and assassinations etc He certainly seemed like loose cannon on deck and the Prime Minister had nothing to say about it.
Methinks that was very strange N'esy Pas?
Billy Love
Well, he said yesterday he would be handing copies of his tweets ect to media. And right on cue, heres CBC to save the day.
@Billy Love Wake up! The article come from the Canadian Press, not from CBC.
David Amos
@Billy Love "And right on cue, heres CBC to save the day"
YUP.
Top bureaucrat gets profane messages after defending government on SNC-Lavalin
Michael Wernick called 'garbage' and 'a traitor' on social media
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Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick has gotten some rather nasty messages on social media over his testimony before the Commons justice committee. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)
The country's top public servant received profanity-laced social media messages calling him "garbage," a "traitor," a "loser" and a "liar" after defending the Trudeau government's conduct in the SNC-Lavalin affair.
Michael Wernick, clerk of the Privy Council, tabled with the House of Commons justice committee Wednesday some of the messages he'd received since he first testified on the controversy two weeks ago.
"I believe that you will want to discuss this as the intimidation of a witness before your committee and a breach of the committee's privileges," Wernick said at the time.
As it turned out, committee members did not want to discuss the matter, preferring to concentrate on Wernick's alleged role in pressuring former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to halt a criminal prosecution of Montreal engineering giant SNC-Lavalin. No one asked about the messages, sent to Wernick via Facebook messenger. Nor did the committee release them publicly, since they were not in both official languages.
'Idiot goofs!'
However, on Thursday, Wernick's office released copies of eight expletive-filled, sometimes barely coherent messages.
"Your garbage pal. If you don't want to be calked name like treason and traitor then don't indulge in it then, you (expletive) idiot goofs!" said one.
"You should be ashamed of yourself for the comments about assinations! Arrogant pos! Get a real job you (expletive) deadbeat," said another.
Wernick prefaced his first appearance before the committee with surprise remarks about the deteriorating state of political discourse in Canada.
"I worry about the rising tide of incitements to violence when people use terms like treason and traitor in open discourse," he said. "Those are words that lead to assassination. I'm worried that somebody is going to be shot in this country this year during the political campaign."
Wernick went on to say he's also worried about "the reputations of honourable people who have served their country being besmirched and dragged through the market square. I worry about the trolling from the vomitorium of social media entering the open media arena."
Wernick's performance before the committee, along with his stout defence of the integrity of staff in the Prime Minister's Office, earned him the scorn of opposition MPs, who accused him of being partisan and demanded that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau fire him. In the House of Commons last week, NDP MP Charlie Angus referred to Wernick as Trudeau's "personal goon."
'You're a loser. And a liar.'
The social media vomitorium, as Wernick called it, has been less restrained.
"Michael, you are dirty. Your manipulation of the fallout on the SNC-Lavalin criminal bribery scandal does not look good on you," said one message he received.
"You're a loser. And a liar. You'll amount to an absolute nobody in Canadian history. A spineless puppet," said another.
"YOU SHOULD BE FIRED. A disgrace to Canada ... Overpaid, bureaucratic LIBERAL BOZO ... protecting liberal LIars!!!" opined yet another.
Methinks CBC or the LIEbrano Propaganda Machine asks another very dumb question to Canadians in light of that it is telling us how Trudeau The Younger is doing in the polls N'esy Pas?
He'll apologize for something that happened 150 years ago with a glistening tear running down his cheek. But apologize for something that he personally was involved in..? NEVER!
@Craig Macneil - Actually, I agree with you there. That last sentence should have finished "a really lousy lot of front runners". Unfortunately, she remains mired for the time being in the fringe because Canadians don't want to live a green lifestyle. Most prefer being environmental swine so very few vote GPC.
Wil Brown
@Alison Harms - I haven't decided who I will vote for. I have only decided who I won't vote for.
David Amos
@Jean Caché "Mr. Trudeau, we .... Do not Trust you!"
The fact that Trudeau is the target of such a strong attack campaign across all social media by internet brigades tells me he’s doing something right...
...looks like he should keep up that good work.
David Amos
@Matt Thuaii "The fact that Trudeau is the target of such a strong attack campaign across all social media by internet brigades tells me he’s doing something right... "
That is very strange logic even for you
Gustav Labadie
@Matt Thuaii by your logic Trump is a God Emperor
Lloyd Browen
I find it amusing that the liberal posters here, knowing that Justin is done for, keep using the "but harper" nonsense.
Well, given that the mainstream media is already speculating who will be liberal leader come October (Justin isn't on the list) - we WILL see who's done.
Notice how the extreme right always thinks in terms of gunfire - F-35's etc. Guns and paranoia are the lifeblood of their thoughts.
This issue is about the integrity of Canadian law and how previous and current government abuses it (it's actually called being corrupt). Can it possibly be legal to be illegal - free of prosecution in a deferred prosecution agreement?
China says we don't handle it very well.
David Amos
@Stu Wozniak "This issue is about the integrity of Canadian law and how previous and current government abuses it (it's actually called being corrupt)"
Methinks you should read my lawsuit N'esy Pas?
Joseph Cluster
Yes by the time 2015 rolled around JT was a breath of fresh air which has turned into halitosis.
Luke Armstrong
@Joseph Cluster
Lol!
David Amos
@Joseph Cluster Oh So True
Richard Cyr
@Joseph Cluster
Justin had as many chances of being a breath of fresh air as that the Indian IT company that called me this morning had a chance of not being a scam.
John Smith
@Joseph Cluster Lack of ability is a hard think to hide as time passes.
Stanley Baird
@John Smith especially when combined with arrogance in himself and those who he has surrounded himself with - who knew they were all such legal experts without ever going to law school or any other professional credentials or experience?
steve wilson
@John Smith ... try Grammerly.....
David Amos
@steve wilson Methinks I understood him as did you N'esy Pas?
Tony Trowel
Many words have used to describe the prime minister. The one that comes to mind is ‘phoney’.
David Amos
@Tony Trowel I prefer corrupt
Glenn Krobel
Trudeau is the embodiment of everything’ he claims to stand against. And the antithesis of everything he claims to stand for. I cannot understand how anyone would still vote for him.
@Mark Burgoyne - it is possible to Decline your ballot in Ontario. Voting for Ford was simply wrong and many thousands of Ontarians Declined as a result of being given no real choice.
I Declined my ballot in the last federal election because there was no candidate for whom I could bring myself to vote. We don't yet have the option of Declining in Federal elections but I will continue to refuse to vote for the kind of rubbish from which we are forced to make choices.
I am in the very fortunate position of being able to say I DIDN'T VOTE FOR TRUDEAU - YAY !! Good for me. And if the rest of you had followed my lead, we wouldn't be in this mess now.
Joan Watkins
@David Webb
Trudeau should step down for the sake of the party. There's still time for the Liberals to elect a new leader and carry on without him. Hopefully the Trudeau isn't the best they have to offer.
David Amos
@Peggy Heath FYI in the six elections I ran in thus far just last year was I permitted to vote for myself and most folks don't even know I was ever on a ballot Here is a good example
Any further responses from JT on this topic will be non authentic and contrived... He has missed the boat on this and will pay the price at the next election or sooner
Norman Neil
@Joe Opinion
Why? Because he didn't confirm Scheer's conspiracy theory?
Barry Odonnell
@Norman Neil It is a shame the election is not until October. Drama teaching positions will have been already filled by then!
Norman Neil
@Barry Odonnell
The only drama I see is coming from Scheer and his supporters...
David Amos
@Joe Opinion Methinks it must be nice to have an opinion when one claims to be one as well N'esy Pas?
Buford Wilson
What is he trying to hide.
Justin needs to come clean with Canadians about this matter.
@Lorne Hartman he tours around and gives money out freely....thats easy and allows for great photo ops...guy should be a mascot.. um um um um um um um um um um um
David Amos
@Jerry Buts Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Jason Martin
Trudeau has taken no responsibility for any of his gaffes.
He seems to think he's above it all.
Arlond Lynds
@Jason Martin I think you are remembering Harper, he is gone mercifully. We still have the company he hired to run this site to remind us what he left behind.
David Amos
@Jason Martin YUP
June Harris
@Jason Martin Although he did not apologize yesterday, he did say that it was his responsibility as leader to have known there were issues between his PMO staff and his Minister/AG. Not sure what else he should be taking responsibility for. He did not tell JWR to change her mind but asked her if she could look at the issue further. I think that in the circumstances of this being a brand new tool that could be used and also the fact that he is her boss, an ask such as that is perfectly reasonable. He is not apologizing because he doesn’t think that his request of her was anything to apologize for.
Jack O Hill
@June Harris
"He did not tell JWR to change her mind but asked her if she could look at the issue further."
After 2 or 3 staffers had come back and told him: "she is not changing her mind", perhaps it was time to stop saying that a different solution was needed. After all, there were ONLY TWO options: DPA No DPA.
When you keep saying a different solution is needed, you are instructing her to reverse her decision. There is NO other possible interpretation.
David Amos
@June Harris What kind of political party leader would demote his Attorney General in an election year particularly after she went along with hiding the DPA in the omnibus bill and took some heat from the Senate for not appearing to explain? Did Trudeau and Butts really think people would not notice and start digging for the dirt in the backstory?
Don Simpson
Trudeau is excellent at making apologies for things that happened 10 or a 100 years ago for events long forgotten, but he can’t seem to apologize for acts he himself has doene and is clearly in the wrong. I suppose we will to wait another 10 to 30 years for some future Trudeau relative to appologise for the wrongdoings of today.
Michael Gall
@Don Simpson Not really. When he apologize for something 100 years ago, Canadian's purse hurt.
David Amos
@Michael Gall True
Bill Mickey
It was of course everybody else's fault but his. Nice boy-up Justin.
David Amos
@Bill Mickey Mais Oui (Of Course)
Garry Horsnell
PM Trudeau's plight is worse and not just because of the sordid SNC Lavalin affair.
There are many reasons to get rid of Trudeau and his Liberals in the 2019 federal election.
@Peter Dale So right! Choices are a) Trudeau = Bad b) Scheer = bad c) Singh = bad.... So Bad + Bad + Bad = Pretty Sad.
David Amos
@Dan Berty I wholeheartedly agree
Craig Macneil
Thr arrogance of JT knows no bounds.When asked if he was going to apologize he said yes today to the FNs.That shows his bad attitude right there.
David Amos
@Craig Macneil Mais Oui (Of Course)
Jeff hunt
Catholics think the Pope is infallible. Liberals think the Trudeau is infallible.
Both are wrong but at least the Pope apologized.
Dan Berty
@Jeff hunt Totally agree... full disclosure, I'm a Conservative that actually supported Trudeau. My dilemma is many Conservatives thing Andrew Scheer is infallible too. And Mr. Singh for NDP by NDPers. Pretty sad isn't it... All pretty un-authentic leaders. How do you pick from bad, bad, and bad?
David Amos
@Jeff hunt True
frank mann
Worse. Trudeau is not trustworthy.
Lorne Hartman
@frank mann nope.. he appoints backstabbers.. I agree with you
David Amos
@Lorne Hartman Methinks you already know that many folks would never agree with your reasoning even though they don't trust Trudeau either N'esy Pas?
Ron Wilson
Beneath all of the accusations, what troubles me the most is that I cannot remember hearing Trudeau ever answering even ONE single question the entire time he's been in office.
Politicians are known for this, but this guy is the King of Spin and Deflection.
Donald Patrick
@Ron Wilson That's because he feels that we, the unwashed, are not worthy of his information. We are mere revenue streams for his pet projects.
David Amos
@Ron Wilson Good point Nor can I
Stephen David
The Liberals have shown they are simply not fit to lead...Canadians have lost confidence and it is reflecting across the Country in the polls.
Neil Gregory
@Stephen David
True, and they are no different from the Conservatives in that regard.
Arlond Lynds
@Stephen David One thing all this testimony did was shine a light on our very well functioning government and the people hired to help it function properly.
Alison Harms
@Arlond Lynds Leave out the "very well functioning" and your comment makes sense.
David Amos
@Alison Harms I agree
jordan keith
"many things that we would have liked to do differently,"......like not get caught
@Gary Norton A government thats already collapsed and wont be re-elected, regardless the law on DPA's is clear, it cannot be used in cases of Bribery.
Jimmy Moore
@Jack O Hill actually its only about 900 jobs in quebec, the other 8000 are all over canada, also its more like 250 000 jobs out west that amount to Hundreds of times the value of SNC which is honestly a very small company in canada.
David Amos
@jordan keith Need I say that sometimes I see things that make me feel proud to be a son of the Keith Clan?
" In which of those examples did the federal government have the power to save jobs?. "
Not cancelling Northern Gateway, and not changing the rules mid-approval process for Energy East would have had those line in place and the energy sector recovering right now.
Jack O Hill
@kevin james
" Quebec IS Canada; didn’t you know? Oh, and we should all be thankful for them, because without them, we, the remainder, are undefined...."
Ah, yes.
"This country, Canada, it belongs to us." Justin Trudeau to a Quebec audience.
David Amos
@jordan keith Methinks that sounds just like the wealthy dude from Quebec with strange eyebrows who travels the world on our dime while dressing rather oddly N'esy Pas?
Did Trudeau's non-apology on SNC-Lavalin make his plight better, or worse?
He may have been trying to reassure his caucus, but his words did nothing to satisfy his critics
John Paul Tasker· CBC News·
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks to journalists about the SNC-Lavalin affair in Ottawa, Thursday March 7, 2019. (Fred Chartrand/Canadian Press)
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau expressed regret Thursday over how he and his team have handled the SNC-Lavalin affair — a scandal that has stretched on for a month, claiming two top cabinet ministers and Trudeau's most senior staffer.
But he didn't say the words many were expecting to hear: "I'm sorry." And that's led to widespread speculation about how (or if) the prime minister can put this business behind him before the 2019 election campaign ramps up.
When asked directly yesterday whether he planned to apologize outright, Trudeau ducked the question, saying instead he should have been personally aware of an "erosion of trust" between Gerald Butts, his former principal secretary, and Jody Wilson-Raybould, the former attorney general.
"I will continue to take many lessons from these recent days and weeks," Trudeau said.
The prime minister insisted again that he, Butts and Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick — and the many staffers on the file — applied no sort of "inappropriate" pressure on Wilson-Raybould to reconsider a deferred prosecution agreement for SNC-Lavalin. He said he should have checked in with the former justice minister personally on a file that mattered so much to many families in his Papineau riding.
It really was about the prospect of job losses, he said, and there was no breakdown in the rule of law. Trudeau promised to review the actual role of the attorney general and whether it should be split off from the role of justice minister.
"Ultimately, I believe our government will be stronger for having wrestled with these issues," Trudeau said.
A 'sidestep' — not an apology
Trudeau's critics ripped him Thursday for what they saw as a weak response to a serious issue. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said Trudeau should have gone much further than he did, arguing that Wilson-Raybould's compelling and believable testimony before the Commons justice committee — about a concerted political effort to get her to reverse a decision she believed was "final"— demanded nothing less than a public mea culpa.
"Canadians had hoped Justin Trudeau would have apologized for the way Ms. Wilson-Raybould was treated and maybe apologize for the pressure that was improperly placed on her. We didn't see an apology. We didn't see maybe an admission of fault. We saw a sidestep — collateral comments that didn't really get to the heart of the matter," Singh said.
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said Trudeau should have offered more after he "bullied" Wilson-Raybould to sign a DPA with SNC-Lavalin.
"The truth can't be experienced differently," Scheer said.
"The Justin Trudeau we saw today is the real Justin Trudeau. A prime minister who can't manage his own office, let alone the affairs of a great nation."
Trudeau has denied any wrongdoing, saying he personally met with Wilson-Raybould about the matter only once, on Sept. 17, 2018, and that the Liberal government simply wanted a thorough review of all the options, and outside legal advice, before the attorney general closed the case.
A source with direct knowledge of the situation, speaking to CBC's Katie Simpson on condition of anonymity, said Thursday the prime minister didn't apologize because he feels "in his core" that he did nothing wrong.
'He doesn't believe he's done anything wrong'
"The prime minister is not going to say something he doesn't believe in, and he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong," the source said.
Greg MacEachern, vice-president of government relations at Proof Strategies and a long-time Liberal strategist, said the prime minister has to consider what message an apology would send to caucus members who feel he really has nothing to apologize for — and who may be worried about the political consequences of Wilson-Raybould's statements.
Some Liberal insiders are deeply angry with the former attorney general, fearing her insistence on branding these lobbying efforts as inappropriate could torpedo their electoral fortunes.
'Gut-check'
"When you've lost two cabinet ministers, you want to take stock and make sure your team is all onboard. And that's what he's been doing the last couple of days," MacEachern said, adding the prime minister has been making calls to caucus members over the last few days as part of a "gut check" on the affair.
"Had his team felt [an apology was necessary], you would have seen a very different press conference."
MacEachern said Trudeau's concession that some things should have been done better in the Prime Minister's Office was sufficient.
"If your opponents are demanding you do something, you really want to stop and take those calls with a grain of salt. After all, if it was up to Andrew Scheer, Justin Trudeau wouldn't have to apologize for anything because he would've already resigned last week," MacEachern said, citing Scheer's call for Trudeau's resignation immediately after Wilson-Raybould's committee appearance last week.
'Tone-deaf'
Jennifer Stewart, a crisis communications expert with Syntax Strategic, said she thinks Trudeau may have made his situation worse by missing an opportunity to apologize to Canadians and put the issue to rest once and for all.
"Simply saying this was an erosion of trust ... won't hold water with Canadians. The issue is much bigger than that. From my perspective, that portion of his presser was tone-deaf. To try and diminish this as simply as an erosion of trust won't work well," Stewart said.
"He should have apologized. He should have said ... 'There was a breakdown of communications and clearly that has had an impact on our government and how we do politics and I apologize.' This was his opportunity to provide that apology in his context ... which is, 'We apologize but we did nothing illegal here.' He didn't have an authentic answer."
Jody Wilson-Raybould and Gerald Butts seen during their separate appearances before the Commons justice committee. (Canadian Press photos)
There could be another reason informing Trudeau's decision to stop short of "I'm sorry." An apology from the PM before the dust settles on any investigations could have legal implications.
While the justice committee is still pursuing its study, with opposition MPs angling to bring Wilson-Raybould back to testify again, there's at least one parallel probe underway. The federal ethics commissioner, Mario Dion, has self-initiated an investigation of alleged breaches of the federal ethics code by the prime minister personally.
Scheer, meanwhile, has also asked the RCMP to investigate the matter, given the severity of allegations of inappropriate political interference in the prosecution of justice in this country. Five past provincial and federal attorneys general — four Conservative and one NDP — have called for a police probe of the matter, saying the intervention by PMO staffers and the clerk of the Privy Council may have been illegal under the Criminal Code.
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John Paul (J.P.) Tasker is a reporter in the CBC's Parliamentary bureau in Ottawa. He can be reached at john.tasker@cbc.ca.
Methinks the decision today was the reason why none of SNC-Lavalin's lawyers would pick up the phone or return calls or even answer my emails N'esy Pas?
SNC-Lavalin loses bid for judicial review of prosecution decision
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Tim Smith
It seems this government will be under the microscope on this one. Now that they've removed the previous Attorney General and slotted in a local Montreal MP, their actions will be viewed by all Canadians. This is not about jobs folks. SNC is here till at least 2024 as stated by their CEO. The company already has $billions in contracts here in Canada. They're not leaving folks. The company can also bid on more government contracts, until they are prosecuted. And if found guilty, the organization can continue to bid on provincial, municipal contracts (loads of infrastructure being built at the local levels), and private contracts, like pipelines, buildings, etc. So don't let the jobs excuse be used here JT. This is now strictly political and it smelled of manipulation from the start.
@Tim Smith Behaving like they are the Liberal Mafia?
Matt Thuaii
@Tim Smith
I like seeing Scheer rant about morals and ethics...
...it’s always interesting watching someone act against type.
David Amos
@Tim Smith Methinks the decision today was the reason why none of SNC-Lavalin's lawyers would pick up the phone or return calls or even answer my emails N'esy Pas?
Daryl McBride
This company is a stain on Canada's reputation. Out of the 117 companies banned by the world bank in Canada, 115 are SNC-Lavalin and its affiliates.
Stanley Baird
@Daryl McBride wonder if Wernick has a board seat lined up with SNC yet?
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David Amos
@Stanley Baird Methinks he expects to be appointed to be our Ambassador to China N'esy Pas?
SNC-Lavalin loses bid for judicial review of prosecution decision
Montreal-based engineering and construction company faces criminal corruption charges
Kathleen Harris· CBC News·
The SNC-Lavalin headquarters is seen in Montreal on Tuesday, February 12, 2019. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)
SNC-Lavalin, the engineering firm at the centre of a political scandal engulfing the Liberal government, has lost its bid for a judicial review of the Director of Public Prosecution's decision to proceed with criminal prosecution of the company on corruption charges.
The company has been seeking a remediation agreement to avoid criminal proceedings related to bribery charges linked to contracts in Libya.
Today's court decision means the Montreal-based engineering and construction firm will likely only get a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) now if Minister of Justice and Attorney General David Lametti overturns the public prosecutor's Oct. 9, 2018 decision. The company does have the right to appeal the decision to the Supreme Court.
The court ruling by federal Judge Catherine Kane says the decision by the director of public prosecutions is not an administrative decision but an exercise of prosecutorial discretion, "which is not subject to judicial review, except for abuse of power."
A remediation agreement, according to the ruling, is defined as "an agreement, between an organization accused of having committed an offence and a prosecutor, to stay any proceedings related to that offence if the organization complies with the terms of the agreement."
CBC News
Trudeau on whether SNC-Lavalin gets a deferred prosecution agreement
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau answers a question about whether or not SNC-Lavalin will get a deferred prosecution agreement. 0:26
The court acknowledged that the threshold to strike an application for judicial review is high, but found that the threshold had been met.
Political pressure, veiled threats
Former justice minister and attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould has alleged she faced intense political pressure and veiled threats from various government officials to overturn the public prosecution director's decision to proceed with criminal charges.
During a news conference in Iqaluit today, where he was delivering a formal apology for past mistreatment of Inuit with tuberculosis, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was asked if he will act to help SNC-Lavalin in the wake of the federal court decision.
He repeated his line that the government sees creating and protecting jobs as a fundamental responsibility, but he would not intervene in a decision on whether the company should have an alternative to prosecution.
"In the specific question of a DPA, that is the attorney general's decision to make," he said. "That is what I have been consistent on for many months. And the attorney general will make that decision." Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said companies must meet multiple conditions to be eligible for a DPA.
"It is not up to politicians in Ottawa to determine whether or not a company has reached those criteria. It is up to our court officers, our prosecutors, ultimately judges to determine the fate of companies that are accused of these very serious crimes," he said.
Trudeau was also asked if Philpott and Wilson-Raybould can remain in the Liberal caucus. He said they've both indicated they want to remain in the Liberal Party and that they share the government's values and objectives when it comes to economic growth, reconciliation with Indigenous people and the environment.
CBC News
Trudeau on Wilson-Raybould and Philpott in Liberal Caucus
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau comments on Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott remaining in the Liberal Caucus. 1:00
"Obviously there are going to be reflections and discussions but I will remind people that we are a party that values diversity of opinions and perspectives," he said.
"This is obviously not a situation or a decision to be taken lightly and we will continue to reflect and work on this issue," Trudeau said during a funding announcement in Charlottetown.
An economic reality check on SNC-Lavalin: Are 9,000 jobs really at stake?
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Henri Bianchi
If SNC Lavalin were to be barred from bidding on any new federal contracts, their skilled workers such as engineers would still be working, they would just be working for whatever companies got those contracts.
@Henri Bianchi Whereas the Brett Hol's "most liked" comment thread went "Poof" I will say it again here
Methinks if SNC-Lavalin president and CEO Neil Bruce is a wise guy He would talk to me ASAP N'esy Pas?
"SNC-Lavalin president and CEO Neil Bruce has said the company plans to 'vigorously defend' itself in the court case at the centre of the unfolding political scandal."
David Amos
@Neil Turv I agree However methinks the obvious question is who are the prosecutors to call SNC-Lavalin bad in light of the fact that the government that oversees the Justice Dept is worse N'esy Pas?
Paul Aumuller
The loss of 9000 jobs is bogus. The excuse that SNC-Lavalin will move out of Canada is bogus. The stance that the PM and federal liberals did not obstruct justice is also bogus for it is completely true.
@Jose Smith I don't see him running any where, but where is Andy these days........
David Amos
@Jonathan Keast YUP
Edward Water
The case for a DPA for SNC-Lavalin is significantly undermined when supporters resort to hyperbolic over statement. Indeed, such exaggerations only serve to fuel the doubts concerning the motivations of the those making the claims.
David Amos
@Edward Water YUP
Don Cameron
So, in essence: 9,000 jobs are at stake? False. No work in Canada? False. Move headquarters out of Quebec? False.
Trudeau's push for the DPA was partisan and politically motivated? TRUE. No wonder we don't believe anything said by Trudeau, B*tts, or Wernick.
John Chow
@Don Cameron
And yet the government keeps repeating the same talking points as if they were a shield.
Dee Ray Ng
@John Chow
It would be insensitive not to mention blind supporters too.
David Amos
@Don Cameron Oh So True
gary Shortell
It's not about the jobs it's about the votes Trudeau needs in Quebec to win the next election. The liberals have already shown they are willing to condone corruption. Trudeau has lost his credibility. Canada deserves better in a P.M. SNC Lavalin does not deserve preferential treatment.
@Phil Mortensen And the Liberals have no chance in many of those places - but they do in Quebec - which is the point.
David Amos
@Michael Flinn Methinks Quebec is becoming leery of Trudeau and his cohorts too N'esy Pas?
James Watson
Any jobs that are at stake would simply migrate to those Engineering companies that would replace SNC-Lavalin in securing government contracts -Hatch Group of Mississauga, Ontario, Golder Associates of Mississauga , and Stantec of Edmonton, Alberta come to mind . Wrong province guess.
@Susan South Susan please get off the jobs jobs jobs BS. It is a red herring to be exposed further.
David Amos
@Harvey Oconnor I chuckled at the nonsense of it all as befitting a proper circus. Methinks Trudeau is well aware of why I look forward to running for a seat in parliament again N'esy Pas?
Evan Guest
The real problem in Canada is our in general failing economy under the Liberals. Last quarter GDP in Canada is .1% vs 2.6% in U.S. This is going to swamp any negative effects of letting SNC fail.
Jose Smith
@Max Webster Admit we are doing something wrong rather than ignoring the stats and trends
David Amos
@Jose Smith Methinks you are talking to a ghost so somebody should agree with your comment that obviously made him go "Poof' N'esy Pas?
John A Brown
Trudeau's main error here was appointing an honest person with strong moral values to his caucus. Guess it wasn't business as usual eh JT. Thank you Jody Wilson-Raybould.
I wonder if a mass ballot spoiling would be interpreted differently.
David Amos
@Garry Horsnell "Canadians just can't trust them anymore."
Methinks we never could They just been exposed tis all N'esy Pas?
Paul Aumuller
Let us all remember that the PM did not stand up for "jobs"...he stood up for his riding and votes. That is what he stated to JWR and JWR directed him with interference. No one can change this channel of obstruction.
If there is a demand for 9000 engineering jobs, then someone will fill it. Think about it. If McDonalds leaves your town does it mean people are going to suddenly want less hamburgers?
With respect to the effect upon subcontractors and their employees, I question how that prime contractor's existing subcontracts could be put at risk, because a subcontract is a contract.
That leaves only notional future subcontracts to consider.
But all future subcontracts of all prime contractors are always at risk because the subcontracts do not yet exist. Until the subcontracts are signed, they are simply a hope.
Do the subcontractors not also bid on work to be subcontracted by other large construction project prime contractors?
David Amos
@John Chow "Who knew that SNC-Lavalin was the foundation of the Canadian economy?"
I still don't know that
David Fletcher
The article doesn't really answer the question it posed. It basically says "maybe". What was the point?
@Toni Scarfone - Fully agree. Engineering "body shops" only keep you employed while you are making them money. They hold on to very few people (typically just the share holders) to bid on the next block of projects.
David Amos
@David Fletcher Methinks common sense is a rather thing within our beloved Crown Corp N'esy Pas?
An economic reality check on SNC-Lavalin: Are 9,000 jobs really at stake?
While its global workforce has grown to 50,000 employees, the company's footprint in Canada has been shrinking
Diana Swain· CBC News·
SNC-Lavalin, which is headquartered in Montreal, employs a little fewer than 9,000 people across Canada. Justin Trudeau and his Liberal government has said it was worried about the potential of losing those jobs should the Quebec engineering giant face criminal prosecution. (Christinne Muschi/Reuters)
Differing versions of what transpired behind the scenes as SNC-Lavalin lobbied the federal government for an out-of-court settlement have left the picture as clear as mud.
But one thing has been consistent: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau insists he is concerned about the impact on Canadian workforce should the Quebec-based engineering giant be barred from competing for federal projects.
SNC-Lavalin is at the centre of a growing political firestorm over allegations that officials with the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) tried to push former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould toward helping the firm avoid criminal prosecution.
SNC-Lavalin is currently facing fraud and corruption charges in connection with nearly $48 million in payments made to Libyan government officials between 2001 and 2011, and a court conviction could see the company face a potential 10-year ban on bidding on federal contracts.
Speaking before the Commons justice committee last month, Wilson-Raybould testified she felt "consistent and sustained" pressure from the PMO to offer the company something known as a deferred prosecution agreement. A DPA would still require the company to admit fault and pay a fine, but it crucially wouldn't ban SNC from federal projects.
She refused, and months later was shuffled to another portfolio.
In his own testimony to the committee this week, the prime minister's former principal secretary, Gerald Butts, repeated the concern about "the 9,000-plus people who could lose their jobs, as well as the many thousands more who work on the company supply chain," if the company couldn't secure a DPA.
Addressing the issue Thursday morning, Trudeau again made clear that his concern for thousands of lost jobs framed his interest in whether SNC should be offered a deal. "They — directly or indirectly — put food on the table for countless families, as one of Canada's major employers," he said.
But the reality of the risk that the company's entire Canadian workforce could be lost isn't quite that simple.
Are 9,000 jobs really at stake if SNC is banned from competing for federal projects?
Not likely, says construction analyst Andrew Macklin. "I think they're playing the worst case scenario," he said.
SNC-Lavalin currently employs 8,762 people in Canada, including about 700 at its head office in Montreal. More than half of its Canadian employees work outside Quebec.
Many are currently engaged in multibillion-dollar projects across Canada that won't be finished for several years.
SNC-Lavalin is already working on nearly $67 billion worth of projects in Canada. For example, it holds a lengthy contract for the total engineering, procurement, construction, and operations and maintenance of the Canada Line of Vancouver's SkyTrain. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)
While its global workforce has swelled to more than 50,000 employees worldwide, the company's footprint in Canada has actually been shrinking for most of the last decade, from 20,000 in 2012 to just under 9,000 today.
In a letter to investors last October, when it first publicly acknowledged it had failed to negotiate a DPA, the company conceded some bad business decisions and the ongoing criminal case have led to that decline.
"Highly skilled employees leave organizations mired in continued uncertainty — 10,000 Canadians have left our organization through no fault of their own since 2012."
Would SNC be shut out of doing business in Canada without a DPA?
It's possible, but unlikely. The ban on bidding for projects only extends to federal contracts — not provincial ones.
That means billions worth of contracts for other government projects, like new hospitals or bridges, are still open to the company. The provinces could choose to shut the firm out, but SNC-Lavalin is one of only about a dozen companies in the world capable of taking large infrastructure projects from conception to completion.
"How do you walk away from that just because the federal government says we're shutting the door to you for 10 years?" said Macklin.
The company is already working on nearly $67 billion worth of projects in Canada and is in the process of bidding on others. SNC doesn't have to halt any bids until (and unless) a conviction is registered in court.
What about the suggestion the company might move its head office?
In his comments Thursday, Trudeau said SNC-Lavalin has suggested that if it were banned from federal business, it might move its headquarters out of Montreal.
The company was founded there in 1911 and, thanks to its substantial global growth, is a recognized symbol of big industry in Quebec.
Watch as Trudeau describes SNC-Lavalin as one of Canada's major employers:
Politics News
Trudeau on SNC-Lavalin
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke to reporters in Ottawa on Thursday morning 1:13
SNC-Lavalin's largest subsidiary is in the U.K., where it now employs slightly more people than it does in Canada, making Britain a potential alternative for its headquarters.
But from a corporate strategic standpoint for a company that frequently works across borders, moving your head office to a country that hasn't yet figured out how it's going to deal with most of Europe is a dicey gambit.
As a condition of a loan agreement with Quebec's pension fund manager, the Caisse de dépôt, the company has committed to stay headquartered in Canada until at least 2024.
How vulnerable is SNC if it loses business in Canada?
Increasingly, the company has most of its jobs and projects outside the country.
In 2013, about two-thirds of its business was happening here. Four years later, in 2017, that ratio was down to about one-third.
SNC-Lavalin president and CEO Neil Bruce has said the company plans to 'vigorously defend' itself in the court case at the centre of the unfolding political scandal. The company has long maintained that any bribes or kickbacks were the work of rogue employees. (Christinne Muschi/Reuters)
In a recent conference call with shareholders, SNC-Lavalin CEO Neil Bruce was asked how concerned he was about the potential of losing access to Canada's federal contracts.
"We've got plenty of opportunities to grow the business outside of Canada," he responded. "But we're also connected to the Canadian market."
Is the DPA and political fallout SNC's biggest distraction right now?
Arguably no. The company is more likely focused on what's happened to its bottom line elsewhere.
In late January, it revealed it had a 2018 operating loss of $1.3 billion — a sharp contrast to a profit of $382 million the year before. SNC-Lavalin blamed problems with a mining operation in Chile and a loss of business in Saudi Arabia.
It said its oil and gas business in Saudi Arabia, in particular, was partly due to "difficult intergovernmental relations between Canada and Saudi Arabia."
The company's share price has also fallen sharply in recent months, hitting a 10-year low last month.
The National
SNC-Lavalin affair: How accurate are Liberal claims that engineering firm’s conviction would cost 9,000 jobs?
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We talk to industry experts to test the claims by several Liberals that an SNC-Lavalin conviction would cost 9,000 people their jobs. 3:44
About the Author
Diana Swain
Multi-award-winning journalist Diana Swain is the senior investigative correspondent for CBC News and host of The Investigators on CBC News Network.
@david kirby You mean like the hypocrisy of Jody Wilson-Raybould? Who has said this is all about ethics, yet a couple of weeks ago her own father reportedly spoke of her "taking down government, and running for P.M."? That is what I have been suspecting all along, and her friend also seems to be along for that ride. This has all of the hallmarks of an internal coup for self promotion & self interests rather than any shred of ethical behavior in my opinion.
David Amos
@Len Evans Surprise Surprise Surprise
Henry Wysmulek
60.5% of Canadians saw trudeau for what he really is from day one!
@Henry Wysmulek So who has been fooled over the past couple of weeks? People who thought this was a great scandal brought to light by the poor Justice Minister? I don't believe it for a second. It was reported that Jody Wilson-Raybould's father spoke a couple of weeks ago of her "taking down government, and running for P.M. herself". Yet everyone bought into her being upset over ethics. The lawyer, and hardened career politician being upset because other politicians were lobbying her to consider the interests of other people? Doesn't fit. This was always about self interests in my opinion.
David Amos
@mo bennett YO MO Methinks you are still enjoying the circus as much as I N'esy Pas?
Nick Cash
Trudeau is quick to apologize for Canadians, but will not apologize when he is the one that failed the people of Canada.
@Nick Cash Methinks everybody has noticed Trudeau's narcissistic character flaws by now but its amazing how many folks did not notice how dumb he was out of the gate N'esy Pas?
Henry Wysmulek
Funny how the cbc never prints anything about the real feminist trudeau? ------------------------
Liberal MP Celina Caesar-Chavannes says she was met with hostility and anger from Justin Trudeau when she told him she was leaving politics, prompting her to speak out about the Prime Minister’s behaviour.
“He was yelling. He was yelling that I didn’t appreciate him, that he’d given me so much,” Ms. Caesar-Chavannes said.
@William Perry I guess the right also have a problem with comprehending what they read amongst many other issues they have.....lol.
David Amos
@Henry Wysmulek Welcome to the Circus
Brad Brien
I did not vote Liberal in the 2015 election, but I still had a bit of faith that Trudeau would govern sensibly. Sadly, I have been let down.
Liberal cronyism and favouritism, outright corruption (SNC-Lavalin) and Central-Canadian elitism have shown that Prime Minister Trudeau missed the mark of 'leader' by a long shot !
@Brad Brien The Liberals and Conservatives are both elist corporate controlled parties but from the same cloth and broken into two parts. They are currently having their latest internal squabble.
David Amos
@Edward Vella I wholeheartedly agree and very much enjoy watching the circus tent unfold before this October
bud webster
where is all this new money for buildings,,, roads,,,.bridges,,,,, Rail'''' oh yea its for special groups
Neil Gregory
@bud webster
The special group that benefits the most from Liberal and Conservative policies are the filthy-rich, corporate executives.
Jim McHugh
@Neil Gregory Oh there are a few more that we're not allowed to mention because it would be seen as discrinination.
David Amos
@Jim McHugh YUP
gary Shortell
Canada does not need four more years of liberal socialism.
Keith Burton
@gary Shortell Their platform and talking points are socialism but what do they deliver?
David Amos
@Keith Burton Good question
Jimmy johnson
Buying Quebec votes while he snubs the rest of Canada. Plain and simple....just another AdScam with a different name.
@Paul Aumuller Not an opinion The Cons slept with, for much less grease.
Ben Brown
@Donald Patrick He doesn't know what his platform is, because his owners haven't told him yet.
David Amos
@Steve Maclean Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Robert Paul
@Steve Maclean
Perfectly well put!
But we will not apologize for him.
David Amos
@Steve Maclean Methinks a proper election slogan for Trudeau The Younger would be "I Am So Sorry" N'esy Pas?
Liberals have taken a polling hit over SNC Lavalin - but Trudeau's taken a bigger one
The prime minister's personal polling numbers aren't recovering, but the Liberal Party's numbers might be
Éric Grenier· CBC News·
The SNC-Lavalin affair has sapped Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's personal polling numbers more than those of his party. (Fred Chartrand/Canadian Press)
In the wake of the SNC-Lavalin affair, the Liberals have taken a hit in the polls. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has taken a bigger one.
Multiple polls have recorded a drop in Liberal support ever since the Globe and Mail first published allegations of political interference by the Prime Minister's Office in the SNC-Lavalin affair — allegations that prompted the resignation from cabinet of former attorney-general Jody Wilson-Raybould and the subsequent resignation of Jane Philpott as president of Treasury Board.
The CBC Poll Tracker, an aggregation of all publicly available polls, has recorded a slip of over four points for the Liberals over the last month, putting the party behind the Conservatives for the first time in nearly a year.
But the losses suffered by the party are less significant than those suffered by Trudeau himself on questions relating to his own personal brand, the performance of his government and Canadians' preferences for prime minister.
Among the five pollsters who have asked the question both before and since the SNC-Lavalin affair emerged (Innovative Research Group, Ipsos, Forum Research, Nanos Research and Abacus Data), the average drop in Trudeau's polling on the question of who Canadians prefer as prime minister has been six points, compared to an average drop of just two points for these pollsters in voting intentions for the Liberals.
Since November and December, Léger, Ipsos and Abacus have recorded drops of between seven and nine points in approval or satisfaction with the performance of Trudeau's government.
Forum, which has been an outlier in showing the Liberals trailing the Conservatives by a significant margin since the beginning of 2018, found a drop of eight points in Trudeau's personal approval rating, while the party — already low in Forum's estimation — only slipped a single point.
In a survey conducted between Mar. 1-4, Innovative found that just 33 per cent of Canadians have a very or somewhat favourable impression of the prime minister, down 12 points since September.
Abacus, in a survey conducted between Mar. 5-7, found the same share of Canadians with a positive impression of Trudeau — down 11 points since December.
Both Innovative and Abacus have found only modest decreases in support for the Liberals over that time span.
That suggests either the Liberal brand retains some resilience — or voters aren't impressed enough with their options to switch their allegiance to other parties when asked to make a choice.
Trudeau vs. the alternatives
The numbers don't suggest that Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer or NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh have been able to take advantage of Trudeau's struggles.
While Innovative found Trudeau's favourable vs. unfavourable score dropped by a net 20 points, the polling firm also found Scheer's decreased by three points, while Singh's didn't change at all.
Léger recorded Trudeau's score on preferred prime minister falling seven points, while Scheer's dropped by one and Singh's increased by just one.
Abacus has shown Scheer's numbers getting worse since a peak just after Wilson-Raybould testified before a Commons committee on Feb. 27 and Scheer demanded that the prime minister resign. In its Feb. 28 to Mar. 2 poll, 32 per cent of respondents had a positive impression of Scheer. In its Mar. 5-7 survey, that had dropped to 28 per cent.
Not even Singh's Burnaby South byelection victory on Feb. 25 — which finally gave him a seat in the House of Commons — moved the dial for the NDP leader. In Abacus's Feb. 8 to 11 survey, 20 per cent of Canadians had a positive impression of Singh. His latest numbers are virtually unchanged, at 19 per cent.
All of which suggests that the losses the Liberals suffer and the gains the Conservatives or New Democrats make in voting intentions might fade in the longer term if they're not secured by an improvement in the personal ratings of Scheer or Singh.
There are even signs now that the effects of the SNC-Lavalin affair might be starting to wear off for the Liberals, if not for the prime minister.
As of Friday afternoon, Abacus Data has been the only polling firm to release the results of surveys conducted after Philpott's resignation on Monday and the testimony of Gerald Butts, the prime minister's former principal secretary, on Wednesday.
The latest results — gathered from Tuesday to Thursday online and surveying 300 panel respondents per day for a total of 900 responses — found the Conservatives with only a one-point lead over the Liberals (34 to 33 per cent), down from the Conservatives' seven-point advantage in the days following Wilson-Raybould's explosive committee testimony (37 to 30 per cent). The shifts might not be very significant considering the sample sizes, but the trend has been consistent.
Abacus also asked respondents to choose their preferred prime minister. On that question, Trudeau's edge over Scheer has grown to five points after having fallen behind the Conservative leader by one point between Feb. 28 to Mar. 1. Of course, that's still a far smaller margin than the 16-point edge Trudeau enjoyed over Scheer in December.
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer responds to media questions Wednesday, March 6, 2019 while visiting a supporter in Quebec City. (Jacques Boissinot/Canadian Press)
But Trudeau and the Liberals have enjoyed no similar rebound in polling which doesn't feature a multiple choice option rather than a simple for-or-against question on the PM and his government. The number of Canadians with a positive impression of the prime minister has not shifted at all, according to Abacus, while approval of his government is up a mere two points.
It all suggests that Trudeau might not be the asset for the Liberal Party that he once was. At the height of his popularity after the 2015 federal election, Trudeau was significantly more popular than his party.
That margin diminished after the botched diplomatic mission to India took its toll — but Trudeau still tended to poll ahead of his party.
Before the SNC-Lavalin affair, Trudeau might have been able to drag the Liberal Party along with him to another majority government in the fall. Now, the best chance for the Liberals might not be the person leading them, but the people leading their opponents.
About the Author
Éric Grenier
Politics and polls
Éric Grenier is a senior writer and the CBC's polls analyst. He was the founder of ThreeHundredEight.com and has written for The Globe and Mail, Huffington Post Canada, The Hill Times, Le Devoir, and L’actualité.
N.B. cabinet ministers stand by Trudeau, backbenchers not completely sold
Trudeau accused of political interference, pressuring former attorney general
Hadeel Ibrahim· CBC News·
Former Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada Jody Wilson-Raybould accused the Prime Minister's Office of pressuring her to get a deferred prosecution agreement for SNC-Lavalin (Justin Tang/Canadian Press )
While both federal cabinet ministers from New Brunswick say they have "full confidence" in Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, two Liberal MPs in the province are expressing some reservations in the wake of the SNC-Lavalin controversy.
New Brunswick Southwest MP Karen Ludwig said Wednesday she wants to see the ethics commissioner's report before making up her mind about how Trudeau handled things — especially because she's not in cabinet and wasn't privy to those discussions.
Ludwig said she stands by the work of the Liberal government but is still absorbing information about how it dealt with SNC-Lavalin.
"I think it's really important to listen to the witnesses that are still coming before the justice committee but also the work of the ethics commissioner," she said in an interview with CBC's Harry Forestell.
New Brunswick Southwest MP Karen Ludwig says she'll continue to focus on local, riding-based issues while the ethics commissioner investigates the SNC-Lavalin affair. (CBC)
"I think that's a significant position that hardly anyone is actually talking about. The ethics commissioner is a non-partisan role ... Let's hear what the ethics commissioner has to say."
Saint-John Rothesay MP Wayne Long has twice called for an independent investigation, most recently after former Jane Philpott's resignation as chair of the Treasury Board.
2 resignations
Philpott's resignation came after former justice minister and attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould accused the Prime Minister's Office of political interference related to a criminal corruption investigation against Quebec-based engineering giant SNC-Lavalin. Wilson-Raybould also resigned from cabinet.
Wilson-Raybould has testified to the House of Commons justice committee that 11 people working for the prime minister met with her over the course of several months, "hounding" her in an effort to get a deferred prosecution agreement for the company. She said on multiple occasions, Quebec jobs and the election were brought up.
Saint-John Rothesay MP Wayne Long has twice called for an independent investigation into the SNC-Lavalin affair. (CBC)
Philpott resigned Monday, saying she had lost confidence in the Trudeau government. She and Wilson-Raybould are still in the Liberal caucus.
Prior to Wilson-Raybould's testimony, Trudeau's former top adviser Gerald Butts resigned.
He testified before the justice committee Wednesday, challenging Wilson-Raybould's version of events. The committee also heard from clerk of the privy council Michael Wernick, who denied making "veiled threats," as well as deputy justice minister Nathalie Drouin.
An ethics investigation
Nicole O'Byrne, associate professor of law at the University of New Brunswick, said an ethics commissioner's report will likely not touch the most contentious parts of the SNC-Lavalin affair — specifically the possible allegations of obstruction of justice.
"To be blunt, we're well past the scope of what the ethics commissioner can inquire into," O'Byrne said.
O'Byrne said Butts's testimony wasn't provided under oath, so the committee can't uncover the truth to the extent a public inquiry can.
"[A public inquiry] can have quite a large scope and you can have the kind of evidence you need to get at the truth here," she said.
Long broke ranks earlier and voted with the opposition for a motion to launched a public inquiry into the allegations. The motion was defeated.
Federal Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc says he has full confidence in Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. (Matt Smith/Canadian Press)
Before Wilson-Raybould's testimony, Long told reporters he'd met with the party whip. "The government's never happy when MPs stand different from the flow of government, but I'm always going to stand up and do what I think is right," he said.
He said he's a "party guy."
"But I'm also going to be an MP that stands up when I think I need to."
Cabinet confidence
Both New Brunswick ministers are standing by Trudeau. Dominic LeBlanc, the minister of intergovernmental and northern affairs, said he has "full confidence in the prime minister."
Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor tweeted "I have full confidence in Justin Trudeau and our government."
Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor says she stands by the Prime Minister. (CBC News)
LeBlanc, the MP for Beausejour, and Petitpas Taylor, the MP for Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe, joined the 31 other cabinet ministers in assuring the public that they stand behind Trudeau.
Backbencher influence
J.P. Lewis, associate professor of political science at the University of New Brunswick Saint John, said it could be difficult to say how findings from an ethics commissioner's report would affect the politics
He said cabinet members are the government, so it's important for them to align on supporting Trudeau.
Backbenchers have more freedom, he said, but also possibly less influence.
"If backbenchers en masse are getting upset with a leader with a position that the government is taking or the party is taking it's easy for there to be pressure," he said, pointing to when Tom Mulcair was pushed out of the NDP.
"We don't have any evidence that it's anywhere close to this going on with this current government," he said. "Theoretically, I mean that can happen from within but it doesn't appear that we're close to that."
3 Nova Scotia Liberals MPs defend Trudeau amid SNC-Lavalin affair
'I don't think it's damaging because we're really focused on what we were sent to Ottawa to do'
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told reporters in Montreal he disagreed with former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould's view she was inappropriately pressured over SNC-Lavalin. (Ryan Remiorz/Canadian Press)
As the controversy surrounding the SNC-Lavalin affair continues, three Nova Scotia Liberal MP's have come out in support of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Bernadette Jordan, Mark Eyking and Rodger Cuzner say they have full confidence in the prime minister and his ability to govern. Nova Scotia has 10 sitting Liberal MPs.
Wilson-Raybould was shuffled to Veterans Affairs in January and resigned from cabinet last month. Last week, she testified before a Commons justice committee about "inappropriate" pressure she said was levied against her last fall regarding SNC-Lavalin.
On Monday, Treasury Board President Jane Philpott resigned from cabinet, saying she had lost confidence in how the government had handled the matter.
Jody Wilson-Raybould appears at the House of Commons justice committee on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on Feb. 27. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)
Mark Eyking, who represents the Cape Breton riding of Sydney-Victoria, said there was some friction in cabinet, but Trudeau didn't do anything wrong.
"Whether you're in caucus or you're in cabinet there's interference, there's interference because you're fighting for your region and your country. And for jobs and for the economy, these things happen in the room, it's just all out in the open now," he said.
Jordan said she doesn't think the current controversy is hurting the Liberals.
"I don't think it's damaging because we're really focused on what we were sent to Ottawa to do," said Jordan, the minister of rural economic development and representative of South Shore-St. Margarets. Part of what the government was elected to do was help protect people's livelihoods, she said, including the 9,000 jobs at SNC-Lavalin that could be at risk.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau greets Rural Economic Development Minister Bernadette Jordan at a swearing-in ceremony at Rideau Hall in Ottawa on Jan. 14. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)
"I think it's really important that as a government we do look at supporting jobs, it's key to our economic prosperity, we have to make sure we continue to do that," she said.
The Liberal caucus also stands "wholeheartedly in support of the prime minister," said Rodger Cuzner, the MP for Cape Breton-Canso.
"I believe in what he's doing and I believe we've accomplished some great things and we've been a progressive government," he said.
Cape Breton-Canso MP Rodger Cuzner said he fully supports the prime minister. (CBC)
Trudeau has support of remaining 33 members of cabinet, survey shows
'My confidence in the prime minister remains untouched,' says Patricia Hajdu
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's cabinet look to be standing firmly behind their leader for the time being. (Ryan Remiorz/Canadian Press)
In the wake of Jane Philpott's sudden resignation from the federal cabinet over what she said was her "lack of confidence" in the way the Liberal government has handled the SNC Lavalin affair, CBC News reached out to the remaining 33 members of cabinet to ask if they still support Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
As of Monday evening, all remaining members of the federal cabinet were saying they continue to support Trudeau and the government. Some issued statements, others simply confirmed their support.
Below is a list of statements from cabinet ministers who provided them to CBC News:
Minister of Indigenous Services Seamus O'Regan "I have full confidence in this prime minister and am committed to continuing on with the important work ahead for Indigenous peoples and all Canadians."
Minister of Transport Marc Garneau "Absolutely. I'm proud to work with a leader that is focused on jobs, growing the middle class and strengthening our economy."
Minister of the Environment Catherine McKenna "Yes, Minister McKenna has full confidence in the PM and will remain in cabinet," said spokeswoman Caroline Thériault.
Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and Labour Patricia Hajdu "My confidence in the prime minister remains untouched. I stand by him and believe in his ability to lead a government that delivers for all Canadians. I am sorry to see one of my Cabinet colleagues step down and I wish her the best."
Minister of Small Business and Export Promotion Mary Ng
The minister told CBC that she supports Trudeau "100 per cent."
Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations Carolyn Bennett "I have absolute confidence in our government, and our prime minister, and will continue the vital work of advancing reconciliation and self-determination as the minister of Crown-Indigenous relations."
Minister of Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism Pablo Rodriguez The Quebec MP said he backs Trudeau "totally,"
Minister of National Revenue Diane Lebouthillier "I support the prime minister and am proud of the work we have accomplished during the last three years to make life better for all Canadians."
Minister of Democratic Institutions Karina Gould "I have full confidence in the Prime Minister and this government."
Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Ahmed Hussen "Minister Hussen has full confidence in Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his vision for Canada," said spokesperson, Mathieu Genest.
Minister of Intergovernmental and Northern Affairs and Internal Trade Dominic LeBlanc "I have full confidence in the prime minister. We will continue to take action to make life easier for Canadians, and create good, middle class jobs across the country."
Minister of International Trade Diversification Jim Carr "The PM and this government as a whole has minister Carr's full confidence. He remains committed to his role as minister and to the important work the PM has given him to carry out on behalf of Canadians," said spokeswoman, Isabella Brisson.
Minister of Tourism, Official Languages and La Francophonie Mélanie Joly ''Of course, the Prime Minister has my full confidence.''
Minister of Infrastructure and Communities François-Philippe Champagne "I absolutely have confidence in the prime minister and the plan he put in place for Canadians and I will continue to be a strong voice for rural Canada, for a strong and growing economy and for Quebec."
Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard Jonathan Wilkinson "I am proud of the progressive accomplishments made under the leadership of the prime minister. I have full confidence in the prime minister and our government."
Minister of Natural Resources Amarjeet Sohi "I have full confidence in our government. Canadians elected us to build a strong middle class and provide opportunities for those who work hard every day to join the middle class. That is what we have focused on since day one and this is what we will continue to do under the strong leadership of PM Trudeau."
Minister of Science and Sport Kirsty Duncan "I fully support the prime minister and our government, and as minister of science and sport, will continue focusing on our important work for science and research, and on making sport safe for all."
Minister of Public Services and Procurement and Accessibility Carla Qualtrough "I have full confidence in the prime minister and our government, and I look forward to continuing to serve Canadians.
"I'm sad to hear of Jane Philpott's departure from Cabinet. She was a valued member of the team around the table. I thank the Prime Minister for his faith in me as I take on the interim position of president of the Treasury Board and minister of digital government."
All remaining members of the federal cabinet have told CBC News that they continue to support Trudeau and his government.
Taxpayers hit with $31M in cancellation costs after Higgs stops 4 major projects
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David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise
kevin james
@David Amos
I agree - who would have thought, a conservative government having to come in and make tough choices to stop the liberal bleeding....
David Amos
@kevin james Are you aware of my idea to pay off our provincial debt and put the budget in a surplus?
Tim Astle
Less than 8 million per deal? That isn't bad. The other way to look at it is for each project: * The estimated completion cost is far more. * Each project will have a cost overrun.
I would not be surprised to see the cost overruns alone would be more than $8 million each. I don't think I've seen a project that doesn't underestimate.
David Amos
@Tim Astle True
Claude DeRoche
And unemployment is up .3 % under the Prince of Bermuda's watch, only the beginning ! Gotta love the CORservatives!
William Reed
@Claude DeRoche
We elected a bunch of ideologues who believe in "get your hands off my gigantic pile". Suddenly the rich feel richer as their money starts to gain in meaning when government can no longer do what it is meant to do. I'm sure they' ll offer to buy everything we ever build for 2 cents on the dollar seeing that it's half built and not in any condition t be used.
David Amos
@Claude DeRoche So says the SANB N'esy Pas?
Bob Smith
@Claude DeRoche I think the lobbying firm Gallant will be going to work for will be hiring.
Lewis Taylor
@David Amos No...we follow the grand pouba leader of the PANB...the real premier of NB
David Amos
@Lewis Taylor Clearly you have no clue as to who I am
Stephen Doran
Unfortunately governments of all stripes enter contracts and make commitments they knowingly can never afford and the citizens are stuck with the bill. Citizens should only vote for politicians that have a moral compass and can be held accountable for their negligence.
Daniel Rawlins
@Stephen Doran Sadly when citizens do vote for politicians they believe have a 'Moral Compass' they find that after a year or two in office those 'high-minded politicians seem to loose their compass or it gets broken and they never seem to be able to find the old one or to get a new one....
William Reed
@Stephen Doran
Governments that do not work at circulating money to a degree that is manageable are actually starving their population of a well being that is attainable. Conservatives are the worst accountants, IMO. They think only of the liabilities column.
David Amos
@Stephen Doran Good luck finding a political party willing to be held accountable for their negligence.
Marguerite Deschamps
Nothing for those who did not vote for the two COR parties. It is what it is.
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you know as well as I that I didn't vote for any political party I voted for myself because do know how it is N'esy Pas?
Lewis Taylor
@David Amos Your sentence makes absolutely no sense...pull up on the substances.
James Reed
It's an accounting issue... the money was already spent, but because the projects have been canceled it can't be amortized of several years and has to be accounted for in the year it was spent... the headline "$31M in cancellation costs" makes it seem like that was the penalty for stopping those projects, but it's actually it's the worth that was already done on those projects - that money is already spent, it now just shows up on this years budget instead of a little bit every year for the next several years.
David Amos
@James Reed I believe you are largely correct except that amount may be penalties
Mario Doucet
Highway 11 upgrade is simply liberal vote buying.
Graeme Scott
@Mario Doucet Exactly Even the government's own engineers at DOT said the highway doesn't carry enough traffic to justify twinning. Most of the concerns could be addressed by some upgrades and the addition of passing lanes. None of which require the dozens of hugely expensive new bridges and overpasses that twinning would need.
Michel Girouard
@Graeme Scott Exactly, they could upgrade passing lanes in comparison to the highway between Miramichi to Bathurts.
David Amos
@Mario Doucet YUP
Marguerite Deschamps
@Mario Doucet, the north will get nothing from the two COR parties.
Graeme Scott
Better to take a one time 30 million hit now than to continue down the path of spending 300 million you don't have and can't afford. The credit card is maxed out....reality checks are often unpleasant but you reach a point where they are unavoidable.
Norman Albert Snr
@Graeme Scott You make those decisions before the signing and penalties awarded.
Graeme Scott
@Norman Albert Snr Unfortunately, we didn't have a fiscally responsible government when those decisions were taken and contracts signed (Looking at you Mr Gallant)
Rosco holt
@Graeme Scott Really!? How fiscally responsible is it that we keep paying for the crownland giveaway. Higgs could have fixed this months ago by voiding the forestry agreement the Alward government gave industry.
But no he's still lobbying for this subsidy.
David Amos
@Rosco holt With a stroke of the pen Higgs could reverse primary source of wood from Crown land back to private wood lots like Bernie Lord promised to do in order to get elected the first time many moons ago.. Methinks that would put the Irving Clan's knickers in quite a knot N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Graeme Scott "Better to take a one time 30 million hit now than to continue down the path of spending 300 million you don't have and can't afford."
I concur
michael.Doyon
conservatives penny wise and pound foolish. some things just never change
kevin james
@michael.Doyon
What’s foolish, is the liberal ideology that debt incurred through limitless spending eventually just takes care of itself...
Marc Martin
@kevin james
Its actual a logical decision to spend on infrastructures it creates jobs...
Gary Timberlake
@Marc Martin @Kevin James Well said Marc! Agreed.
Les Cooper
@Marc Martin that would be a make work project.
Rosco holt
@Les Cooper It isn't any different than the crownland giveaway. It created jobs for foreigners in Chipman.
David Amos
@Rosco holt YUP
Rosco holt
Guess the budget isn't balance after all. Higgs tax cuts while have to wait.
Brad Little
@Rosco holt At least he's not raising them like the Liberals ALWAYS do. In fact, he's fighting on our behalf against the carbon tax. He's my hero.
David Amos
@Rosco holt YUP
Marc Martin
@Rosco holt
It will be worst next year, all these cuts where creating jobs lol, its wise to spend money on infrastructure next years budget will be a diseaster...I am still waiting for him to remove the special gaz tax, lower tax on income and lower the GST ...
Les Cooper
@Marc Martin I see our education system needs some work. Spelling anyway.
Rosco holt
@Brad Little His plan was to cut taxes, instead of paying down the debt. He isn't my hero, pay down the debt quickly, then we can look at lowering taxes.
Some of the projects that were cancelled are needed for safety sake.
Axel Roosevelt
Who cares, no different than paying an early term fee for breaking your mortgage in order to save in the long term. Great news!
Lewis Taylor
@Axel Roosevelt Save long term? Having to sell your house to live joblesss in a basement apartment is not a winning strategy.
David Amos
@Lewis Taylor So you say
Stephanie Price
@Lewis Taylor Who said anything about being jobless? Living within your means is always a winning strategy.
David Amos
@Stephanie Price I wholeheartedly agree
Norman Albert Snr
@Axel Roosevelt Except that is not the case here. $31M for doing nothing is just a little overboard. For those having a difficult time with this that is 31 with 000,000,000.00 of tax payers money. So if you had to forgo eating well or fixing the car check with the governments on where they spend your taxes.
Les Cooper
@Lewis Taylor there is work all over Canada that you could do. Just don't stay in NB. The taxes are way to high here for a **** hole province. Lol
Lewis Taylor
@David Amos I forgot that it hits close to home for you.
Axel Roosevelt
@Lewis Taylor
For all Lew cares he or someone in his family is probably missing out on summer pogey hours as a result of these excellent cancellations, get a real job pal.
Lewis Taylor
@Les Cooper Don't worry about my job...I worry more about lack of economic development and tax increases for the 40 thousand or so fellow tax payers that keep this province afloat.
Lewis Taylor
Not spending money is one thing...leaving money on the table for unfinished projects is stupid. Many contractors are now in a position to sue the government for breach of contract for all the costs they incurred etc....This will not be a moment to remember for this PC govt...let's hope the premier stops acting like a bull in a china shop and an Irving sycophant and starts to make rational decisions.
David Amos
@Lewis Taylor Dream on
Marc Martin
@Lewis Taylor
People voted for him, now they have to live with their mistakes..
Lewis Taylor
@Les Cooper Why does racism always have to come up?
June Arnott
No vision here! More people to die on Route 11. Blame Higgs.
Harold Wood
@June Arnott Drive more carefully
David Amos
@Harold Wood Methinks that why motorcyclists such I live long lives N'esy Pas?
Les Cooper
@June Arnott does anyone even use that road?
Lewis Taylor
@Les Cooper A lot more cars than on the deserted 4 lane white elephant from St John to Maine!!
Lewis Taylor
@Harold Wood Real intelligent.
Roger Drisdelle
Surprise, a conservative government with no vision for the future.. Who would of thought... Be...Broke in this place
Gil Murray
@Roger Drisdelle Yeah like NB was not already broke - $14.5B in debt. Your idea is to get out of debt by spending. How many more government employees do you want to pay for in order to fill all of the capital city office space?
michael.Doyon
@Gil Murray what would be wrong with looking at increasing revenue rather than cuts? ....positive verses negative
kevin james
@michael.Doyon
Like by raising taxes - yeah, that’s a great idea... Raising government “revenues” only leads to higher spending and greater debt serviceability and less accountability - i.e. more debt.....
Feel free to donate more of your hard earned paycheque to the cause. As for me, I lose sleep every night trying to figure out how to keep more of mine.
David Amos
@kevin james Methinks much to the chagrin of Mr Higgs and his opposition "The Powers That Be" know why I don't lose any sleep over taxation since i was informed that the Feds had deleted my SIN
Truth is stranger than fiction N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
@Gil Murray
Investing in infrastructure is actually a very logical way to increase revenue, you create jobs. Higgs is lucky he had a surplus left to him by the Liberal government...
Gil Murray
@michael.Doyon If you want to pay more taxes, feel free. If you seriously think that infrastructure projects provide long-term revenue streams, why has it not worked yet. Increased revenue is coming from increased GST. That is why there is a surplus. Keep on buying son, you might bring the debt down.
Derwith Kennedy
@kevin james So you don't want to contribute your fair share? Why am I not surprised.
Taxpayers hit with $31M in cancellation costs after Higgs stops 4 major projects
Province must pay $31M this year after cancelling new Fredericton courthouse and other infrastructure projects
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The Progressive Conservative government of Blaine Higgs has stopped work on a new courthouse and refurbished Centennial Building in Fredericton. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
---------- Original message ---------- From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2019 21:11:00 -0400 Subject: Re: YO Jesse why is it that I was not surprised to see CBC and your VIAFOURA minions block me again so quickly and why I felt the need to blog, tweet and email about your malice just as quicckly? To: jesse@viafoura.com, Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca, sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca
Conference for young farmers goes beyond cows and calves
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David Amos
Perhaps folks should listen to what I was suggesting to do about young farmers as I debated Rob Moore the Minister of ACOA for his seat in the 42nd Parliament?
Lou Bell
@David Amos Did it win you nay votes, and if so , how many ? Or how many did you get when you ran ?
David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks everybody knows I didn't run for public office 6 times as an Independent in order to win votes. I do my best at exposing the awful truth about public corruption that all the spin doctors for the political parties wish to conceal If you were sincere then it is my lawsuits you really should pay attention to instead of making fun of me all this time N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
@Lou Bell There was a story about 2 women who have been basically abusing the Court System for nefarious acts and law suits to STAY AWAY from the Court System. Are these the kinds of lawsuits you're referring to ?
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David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks you are not as clever as you think you are. Everybody knows who I am and nobody knows who you are other than just another a critic in cyberspace. I repeat are you related Justice Richard Bell? Anyone can read his decision right after I ran in the election of the 42nd Parliament by simply Googling Justice Richard Bell David Amos N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Lou Bell Why is it that I was not surprised to see my reply blocked?
Docket: T-1557-15 Judge B. Richard Bell Decision December 23, 2015
Date: 20151223
Docket: T-1557-15
Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
PRESENT:The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Plaintiff
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Defendant
ORDER
(Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on December 14, 2015)
The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim in its entirety.
At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg, (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).In that letter he stated:
As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you. You are your brother’s keeper.
Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore; former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al, [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.There is no order as to costs.
“B. Richard Bell” Judge
Conference for young farmers goes beyond cows and calves
Summit in Moncton features psychologist, communications specialists and success stories
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Farming isn't just about the animals. A conference in Moncton will deal with the psychological and entrepreneurial aspects of the industry. (Yuangeng Zhang/Shutterstock)
A conference for young farmers will feature some unexpected guests to help participants explore some of the lesser-considered aspects of the industry, such as motivation, communication and entrepreneurship.
The Young Farmer Summit, organized by Farm Credit Canada, is aimed at people under the age of 40 who already work, or who want to work as farmers. It's coming to Moncton this Saturday.
Faith Matchett, Atlantic vice-president for Farm Credit Canada, said the conference will help inspire and educate young farmers with some guests one might not immediately connect to farming.
Canadian technology expert and internet strategist Jesse Hirsh will be speaking in Moncton Saturday about technology and farming. (CBC)
One such speaker is stress and resilience psychologist Dr. Georges Sabongui.
"We bring him in because we all could get help in resilience skills … especially farmers, where we've got all kinds of things going on with weather and finding pricing and things," Matchett told Information Morning Moncton.
Another guest is digital strategist Jesse Hirsh.
"We think he's important because technology is is very present in agriculture and agrifood," said Matchett.
Tonia and Hatem Jahshan are the owners of Hamilton-based loose leaf tea company, Steeped Tea. Tonia Jahshan will be speaking in Moncton Saturday. (Julia Chapman/CBC)
Communication expert Stuart Knight is also invited to speak about the power of direct conversation, "which is kind of interesting in this day and age of Twitter," Matchett said.
Tonia Jahshan, owner of Steeped Tea, has been on Dragon's Den and will describe the different methods she used to help her business grow.
Rewarding work
Ben Roy, a young dairy farmer from Kentville, N.S., said he's looking forward to seeing young farmers together, and networking with them.
"Everybody is excited about what they're doing and proud of what they're doing and so those are the stories that I'm looking forward to hearing," he said.
Roy grew up farming with his uncle and developed a passion for the work.
Matchett said there are more and more people who have no background in farming joining the industry . She said people have gotten more removed from where their food comes from as cities grow larger, but she's seeing that trend start to change.
"When we get back into understanding where does our food come from, we start to learn more about agriculture and agrifood production and I think we understand just how exciting an industry it is," she said.
Methinks CBC overlooks the fact that it was Kevin Lynch former clerk of Harper's PCO and now the Chair of SNC board who was calling the PMO and the PCO N'esy Pas?
5 things we may never know about the SNC-Lavalin scandal
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R.Gabrielle Berry
My favorite entry from this CBC article: CEO Neil Bruce: We've done nothing wrong as a company and none of our current employees have done anything wrong," Bruce told investors last month. Is this where Justin packed up his constant repetition: "There is nothing to see here. We have done nothing wrong?"
CEO Neil Bruce: "We've never asked that the charges be dropped, we've never asked for anything to be circumvented outside this judicial system." But the DPA is now inside the judicial system, and the Liberal govt put it there.
Yet Bruce and others from SNC-Lavalin have been vigorously lobbying the Trudeau Govt for a way out. In my mind "vigorously lobbying" likely involves certain "gratuities" (Shall we politely say?). It most certainly resulted in a ton of pressure on Jody Wilson-Raybould.
This case is beyond the Liberal Justice Committee; this case I beyond the Ethics' Committee; this case is likely beyond an independent outside enquiry. This case screams for an RCMP full investigation. Did Trudeau get the DPA legislation passed so that he could dangle it in front of nefarious companies in exchange for...………. (Fill in the blank.)
@R.Gabrielle Berry Methinks we would all love to know who was getting the bag money N'esy Pas?
"SNC-Lavalin was caught making illegal donations to federal parties back in 2013, when executives were instructed to donate to certain candidates, only to be reimbursed through company bonuses.
Elections Canada investigated, charging a lone SNC-Lavalin bagman, who pleaded guilty in November to illegally funnelling $117,000 to the Liberal and Conservative parties.
A diverse cabinet means diverse opinions — and Trudeau shouldn't have been surprised, says journalist
Why many Quebecers want SNC-Lavalin to stand trial — despite warnings about jobs
But we don't know who else was involved, or the kind of influence SNC-Lavalin expected or may have received in exchange for their illegal donations.
Elections Canada gave the company a pass, agreeing to a compliance agreement in 2016 that closed the case. That lone executive paid a $2,000 fine.
Under the compliance agreement, Elections Canada agreed to not pursue other "certain former senior executives" and didn't prosecute anyone within the political parties, allowing them to simply pay back the money."
Ray Rohr
@Tom Herman So is that the basis of the Conservatives stance on the issue?
Hugh Farnsworth
Canadians owe JWR a huge debt of gratitude! We may finally be able to expose and work to reduce the corruption in Quebec from forces like SNC and the mafia owned construction companies.
@Joan Tyne Check the story with Sheila Copps and you will see what JWR's father told her.
Dee Ray Ng
@Len Evans
Just did. Her father said "It could very well topple a government. I mean, it is that serious."
It's all in the perception, right Len?
David Amos
@Hugh Farnsworth "the mafia owned construction companies"
Methinks mafia is an interesting word perhaps you may enjoy Googling the following N'esy Pas?
David Amos Wiretap
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@Len Evans Methinks you should quit attacking me and review my comments N'esy Pas?
Frank Hammerschmidt
The decision by JWR not to cave to pressure and harassment for a deferred prosecution was the right one. This is not a company that should qualify for plea deals.
@Frank Hammerschmidt Agreed. It was the correct and courageous decision to make regardless of the company or the number of jobs involved. The law is the law. You can't justify robbing a bank because you need the money!
David Amos
@David Smith Methinks the plot is thickening N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Frank Hammerschmidt Methinks I have the right to remind folks that the former Attorney General should not have ignored my lawsuit N'esy Pas?
Jeff hunt
Liberals biggest fear is a full blown investigation with subpoena powers and sworn testimony. The shredders are on standby as are phone and computer scrubbers.
I wonder if Andrew Scheer will appoint Faith Goldy as JM.
Jeff hunt
@David Railton I should have said LPC / Liberal Government/ Trudeau,Butts et al.
David Amos
@Jeff hunt YUP
Joseph Cluster
"Elections Canada gave the company a pass, agreeing to a compliance agreement in 2016 that closed the case. That lone executive paid a $2,000 fine." Just shows us right there that the Liberals were giving "Get Out Of Jail" FREE cards already 3 yrs ago. Now we see finally saw someone with an honest/ethical background JWR stand her ground, and said "No" the PM throw a hissy fit.
@Bol Dor So by that justification that the other party does it to then makes it alright, try that defence in a court of law.
David Amos
@Paul Smith Methinks you should overlook the fact that it was Kevin Lynch former clerk of Harper's PO and now the Chair of SNC board who was calling the PMO and the PCO N'esy Pas?
John Horvath
I can't believe cbc forgot to mention the Montreal Hospital bribery were 30 million was paid in bribes by SNC! They even did a couple of investigative pieces on this at the time! There is a loss of trust between me and the cbc..
But yeah, each CBC article seems to have its own agenda, it's unsettling what a poor resource the organization is in terms of cohesive information.
Bert van
@John Horvath The only reason I can see why the Montreal Hospital bribery issue is not mentioned is that it involves the Harper government and the close friendship between Harper and Porter. Porter was even made head of CSIS.
David Smith
@John Horvath
Not stopping you though.
Rob Clayton
@John Horvath Yes, the CBC keeps on referencing Libya, Libya so as to create the illusion that illegal bribes were only paid outside of Canada. A further investigation needs to be conducted on all SNC contracts on Federal Public works conracts in Canada where they were the successful bidder.
David Amos
@John Horvath "There is a loss of trust between me and the cbc.."
Methinks you are not alone N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Rob Clayton Good point
Brian Kennedy
I dare Trudeau to give them a DPA. It will finish put the party out of power for at least a generation.
@Corinne O'Connor Canadian edition of national observer also has a great read. The hidden key to the sync-Lavalin scandal.
David Amos
@Brian Kennedy I Double Dog Dare him to
Ken Jackson
Point 5 in the article follow link to donations and check out who received the bulk of the illegal contributions to their part. It wasn’t the conservatives.
Manuel Santos
@Ken Jackson I don't care if the Conservative party received $1 or $1000. The fact is they received illegal contributions.
David Amos
@Ken Jackson Exactly
ALEX Chiasson
An investigative media would be able to dig up the answers if they weren't hamstrung by a scheming government and legal system.
Corinne O'Connor
@ALEX Chiasson
It was under Harper's rule than investigative media came to a halt. If anybody remembers when a reporter for the Globe & Mail or the National Post went to jail when she wouldn't give up her sources. Harper changed the rules forcing reporters to give up their sources, which meant reporters were not able to do their jobs. Since then there has been very little real investigative journalism.
David Amos
@ALEX Chiasson All they have to do is review my comments if they want a bigger story
5 things we may never know about the SNC-Lavalin scandal
Without a trial or broader probe, Canadians could be left in the dark about company's history of corruption
Dave Seglins, Rachel Houlihan· CBC News·
The prosecution of SNC-Lavalin is largest corporate corruption case in Canadian history, complete with $50 million in foreign bribes, ties to a bloody dictator and a foiled smuggling plot. (Patrick Morrell/CBC)
The prosecution of SNC-Lavalin is proceeding full-steam ahead, with a preliminary hearing already underway in Montreal. A criminal trial is possible within a year.
That is unless the Trudeau government hands the Quebec company a get-out-of-jail-free card in the form of a much-talked-about deferred prosecution agreement.
If a DPA is granted, there won't be a trial and Canadians may never hear how far up the corporate ladder the alleged corruption went inside the global engineering firm.
And with the current parliamentary hearings so narrowly focused on the "he said, she said" of the Prime Minister's Office and the former attorney general, Canadians are at risk of never learning the full extent to which SNC-Lavalin may have influenced the government.
1. How widespread was the bribery?
The criminal case looming over SNC-Lavalin is specifically about Libya.
The company is accused of paying $48 million in bribes to Libyan officials, with executives alleged to have bankrolled yachts and prostitutes for the son of former dictator Moammar Gadhafi in a bid to win lucrative contracts in the country.
If SNC-Lavalin is granted a remediation agreement, the company would face a massive fine — but the public will never get to see the evidence that the RCMP and prosecutors have spent seven years amassing in anticipation of the criminal trial.
What we don't know — and may never know — is the extent of corruption beyond Libya.
SNC-Lavalin is alleged to have paid millions for travel, hotels and escorts on trips to Toronto and Montreal for Saadi Gadhafi, the son of Libya's former dictator, shown here in a 2005 file photo. (Tim Wimborne/Reuters)
A CBC News and Globe and Mail investigation in 2013 revealed SNC-Lavalin used secret codes in budgets to hide unofficial payments on projects around the globe, which numerous employees allege were for bribes. The investigation exposed the payments in 13 countries, including Nigeria, Zambia, Uganda, Ghana, India and Kazakhstan.
But Canada has yet to convict anyone from SNC-Lavalin for any foreign bribery — something that is illegal under Canadian law, which aims to stop Canadian companies from propping up corrupt officials and dictators in some of the world's most underdeveloped, oppressive regimes.
A trial in the Libya case could be the last chance for accountability through a public and opening hearing.
2. What did SNC's senior management know?
SNC-Lavalin's former top construction executive, Riadh Ben Aïssa, has already pleaded guilty to bribing Libyan officials and laundering tens of millions of dollars in kickbacks through Swiss bank accounts to win billions in contracts.
But that was in Switzerland, where he was jailed for two-and-a-half years. What we don't know is who else was involved.
Former SNC executive vice-president Riadh Ben Aïssa, right, pleaded guilty in Switzerland in 2014 to paying bribes to Saadi Gadhafi, left, in order to land lucrative contracts. The company has said he was a rogue employee. (Radio-Canada)
Ben Aïssa has since become a key witness for the prosecution in the upcoming Canadian trial. He's ready to point fingers at others in the company who, for years, groomed and promoted him. He can testify about who in the senior ranks knew about the alleged bribery, and SNC-Lavalin's frequent use of shell companies and Swiss bank accounts to pay "agents" to win global projects.
SNC has long argued that Ben Aïssa was a rogue actor. It denies the charges it is currently facing in Canada.
"All the sources of our troubles [are] coming from him," Jacques Lamarre, SNC-Lavalin's CEO from 1996 until 2009, told CBC News in 2014.
Granting SNC-Lavalin a DPA would shut down Ben Aïssa's testimony.
3. What happened in the Gadhafi smuggling plot?
One of the more bizarre twists in the SNC-Lavalin saga involves two Canadians tied to a plot to smuggle Saadi Gadhafi — the son of the late Libyan dictator and a longtime SNC-Lavalin patron — into Mexico.
In 2011, as civil war toppled the Libyan regime, SNC-Lavalin scrambled to save its projects in the country, as well as its profitable patronage with the Gadhafi family.
Canadian consultant Cynthia Vanier and SNC-Lavalin vice-president Stéphane Roy were detained by police in Mexico City, the pair among a group accused of a conspiracy to forge passports and fly Saadi Gadhafi and his family to a life in hiding.
Canadian consultant Cynthia Vanier spent 18 months in a Mexican prison, accused in a plot to smuggle Saadi Gadhafi and his family out of Libya. But she was released after a court ruled her legal rights had been violated. (Submitted by Betty MacDonald)
But Canadians have never heard the full story.
Vanier, accused of being the mastermind of the plot, was imprisoned in Mexico for 18 months. But she was released after a court ruled her legal rights had been violated.
Back in Canada, the RCMP charged Roy in 2014 in relation to the caper and SNC's Libya dealings. But his entire case was thrown out last month due to delays.
SNC-Lavalin has argued Roy and Vanier were rogue actors, and have launched lawsuits against them. The Gadhafi smuggling plot will no doubt be evidence at the company's upcoming trial.
4. Have lobbyists swayed the Trudeau government?
SNC-Lavalin CEO Neil Bruce, named to that post in 2015, vehemently denies the allegations against the company.
"We've done nothing wrong as a company and none of our current employees have done anything wrong," Bruce told investors last month.
"We've never asked that the charges be dropped, we've never asked for anything to be circumvented outside this judicial system."
Yet Bruce and others from SNC-Lavalin have been vigorously lobbying the Trudeau government for a way out.
SNC-Lavalin CEO Neil Bruce addresses shareholders during the company's annual general meeting in Montreal on May 3, 2018. In an interview with Bloomberg late last year, Bruce said the pending litigation against SNC has cost his company some $5 billion from lost contracts. (Graham Hughes/Canadian Press)
The company has lobbied federal officials on 60 different occasions, pressing the government, among other things, for deferred prosecution and to relax the penalties for corporations convicted of foreign bribery.
What we don't know is what was said or what influence SNC-Lavalin's ear-bending may have had on the prime minister, the PMO, or officials within the justice system.
The House of Commons justice committee is currently narrowly focused on the allegations that the PMO attempted to politically interfere in the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin by pressuring Jody Wilson-Raybould to offer a DPA. And the federal ethics commissioner is also probing the issue.
But there is no formal probe into how this criminally charged corporation has potentially influenced the government through its extensive lobbying.
5. What about SNC's illegal political donations?
Amid the latest political drama, few are talking about SNC-Lavalin's long history of illegal political donations.
SNC-Lavalin was caught making illegal donations to federal parties back in 2013, when executives were instructed to donate to certain candidates, only to be reimbursed through company bonuses.
Elections Canada investigated, charging a lone SNC-Lavalin bagman, who pleaded guilty in November to illegally funnelling $117,000 to the Liberal and Conservative parties.
But we don't know who else was involved, or the kind of influence SNC-Lavalin expected or may have received in exchange for their illegal donations.
Elections Canada gave the company a pass, agreeing to a compliance agreement in 2016 that closed the case. That lone executive paid a $2,000 fine.
Under the compliance agreement, Elections Canada agreed to not pursue other "certain former senior executives" and didn't prosecute anyone within the political parties, allowing them to simply pay back the money.
Send tips to dave.seglins@cbc.ca or rachel.houlihan@cbc.ca.
AG David Lametti could be SNC-Lavalin's last hope to avoid prosecution
Engineering firm lost its bid for judicial review of federal prosecutor's decision
Mark Gollom· CBC News·
If the corruption and fraud case against SNC-Lavalin proceeds to trial, then David Lametti may be the only person in Canada who can save the Montreal-based engineering firm from criminal prosecution. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
If the corruption and fraud case against SNC-Lavalin proceeds to trial, then David Lametti may be the only person in Canada who can save the Montreal-based engineering firm from criminal prosecution.
As attorney general, Lametti has the power to decide whether the company should be able to access a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA), which would stay those criminal proceedings.
And after losing its bid on Friday for a judicial review of the Director of Public Prosecution's decision to proceed with criminal prosecution of the company on corruption charges instead of agreeing to a DPA, the company's attention will now focus on Lametti.
The issue of SNC-Lavalin and a DPA is at the centre of the current Liberal government political scandal. Lametti's predecessor Jody Wilson-Raybould said that when she was attorney general, she had closed the book on that option, refusing to overrule Director of Public Prosecutions Kathleen Roussel's decision that a DPA wouldn't be appropriate in SNC-Lavalin's case.
Lametti still considering options
However Lametti, despite the ongoing controversy, has indicated he hasn't ruled out that option. But he also hasn't indicated when a decision may come, or whether he is open to reconsider the case, something that had been suggested to Wilson-Raybould by officials in the PMO.
SNC-Lavalin faces charges of fraud and corruption in connection with nearly $48 million in payments made to Libyan government officials between 2001 and 2011. (CBC)
On Friday, federal Judge Catherine Kane ruled against SNC-Lavalin's bid to seek a DPA and avoid criminal proceedings, writing that "prosecutorial discretion is not subject to judicial review, except for abuse of power."
SNC-Lavalin faces charges of fraud and corruption in connection with millions of dollars of payments made to Libyan government officials between 2001 and 2011. The case is currently in the preliminary hearing stage. A judge is expected to rule soon on whether it should proceed to trial.
If that were to happen, the only path to avoid prosecution would be through Lametti, who as attorney general oversees the director of public prosecutions. He can issue directives on any specific prosecution, meaning he could direct federal prosecutors to negotiate a deferred prosecution agreement.
These agreements allow companies accused of certain economic offences — such as bribery, fraud and corruption — to be spared criminal charges.Instead, they can could admit wrongdoing and pay a financial penalty.
Concern over jobs
In the case of SNC-Lavalin, which employs nearly 9,000 Canadians across the country, the concern has been that a successful criminal prosecution against the company could lead to it being banned from bidding on federal contracts for 10 years. That could cost many jobs and damage the economy, particularly in Quebec.
It's not known why Roussel turned down SNC-Lavalin's request for a DPA. A letter to the company only said that after a "detailed review of all the material submitted," it was determined that a "remediation agreement is not appropriate in this case."
There are a number of factors that Lametti might consider when deciding whether SNC-Lavalin qualifies for a DPA. Those include:
The nature and gravity of the act and its impact on any victim.
Whether the company has taken disciplinary action.
Whether the organization has made reparations.
During her testimony at the Commons justice committee, which is probing the SNC-Lavalin scandal, Wilson-Raybould said, despite her decision, and after insisting that the file was closed, she was pressured inappropriately by senior government officials, including Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, to intervene in the case.
'Fresh eyes'
Trudeau has denied any inappropriate pressure. He also said that it's his belief that when it comes making a decision on a DPA, that can be taken by the attorney general up until the very last minute of a trial.
Trudeau's former principal secretary Gerald Butts, in his testimony before the justice committee, said according to the briefings he had received, the attorney general was obligated to bring "fresh eyes" every time new evidence arose, up until a verdict on the case is rendered.
Craig Martin Scott, a York University law professor, agreed that there is nothing to preclude the attorney general from intervening at any point, up until the verdict. But it may be impractical for the new attorney general, or any attorney general, to keep abreast of a case for that period of time, he said.
"To say that the AG has the same kind of active duty to constantly be keeping in mind a file in order to determine [do they] intervene with the prosecutors, that just doesn't follow.
"No system can work with the AG constantly being on watch over multiple files as to whether they're going to intervene."
Suggestions by Trudeau and Butts that the file remains open just invited the kind of pressure alleged by Wilson-Raybould, he said.
"It means that people can keep taking a run at the AG behind the scenes through the government cabinet structure. So it just does not make policy sense and it makes doesn't make practical sense to say the AG has the same continual duty to continually keep in mind the case as the prosecutors."
'Almost condescending'
Butts also testified that senior government officials raised the idea with Wilson-Raybould to seek external legal advice on the matter, suggesting seeking out someone like former Supreme Court Justice Beverley McLaughlin.
"What exactly did they think they were going to do?" said Scott. "Get some kind of named jurist to come in and tutor the AG and her legal team? That felt really almost condescending."
Jody Wilson-Raybould testified that when she was attorney general, she was pressured by top government officials, including the prime minister, to step in and resolve the corruption and fraud case against SNC-Lavalin Group. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)
University of British Columbia assistant professor Andrew Martin, who specializes in legal ethics, said that was just a way of the government saying: "I'm going to bug you, until you say what I want."
"The only reason to suggest to get an outside opinion is that she's wrong."
Richard Leblanc, professor of governance, law and ethics at York University, told CBC's Salimah Shivji, that the government should stop emphasizing potential job losses as a reason for a DPA, and instead focus on how SNC-Lavalin has changed.
"That obsession with the jobs argument is not the path forward. The path forward is to focus on the reforms that have been undertaken and focus on that as opposed to partisan interests."
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SNC-LAVALIN GROUP INC. et al. v. THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS
Proceeding Category :
Applications
Nature :
S. 18.1 Application for Judicial Review
Type of Action :
Non-Action
79 records found for court number T-1843-18
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2019-03-08
Ottawa
Acknowledgment of Receipt received from parties (via e-mail) with respect to Doc. No. 32 + 33 placed on file on 08-MAR-2019
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2019-03-08
Ottawa
Traduction certifiée conforme (texte français) Ordonnance et Motifs rendus le 08-MAR-2019 par Madame le juge Kane déposée le 08-MAR-2019 en vertu de l'article 20 de la Loi sur les langues officielles Certificat de la traduction de l'ordonnance inscrit(e) dans le livre J. & O., volume 1401 page(s) 475 - 475 et placé au dossier.
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2019-03-08
Ottawa
Reasons (Order and Reasons) dated 08-MAR-2019 rendered by The Honourable Madam Justice Kane Matter considered with personal appearance The Court's decision is with regard to Motion Doc. No. 11 Result: "THIS COURT ORDERS that: 1. The Application for Judicial Review is struck without leave to amend. 2. The Respondent shall have its costs on this motion." Filed on 08-MAR-2019 copies sent to parties Final Decision Certificate of Order entered in J. & O. Book, volume 1401 page(s) 474 - 474
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2019-03-01
Ottawa
Request for Copy of Audio Recording of a Federal Court Hearing from Canadian Broadcasting Corporation received on 01-MAR-2019
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2019-02-12
Montréal
Lettre de la part de Me Jean-Sébastien Danis en date du 12-FEV-2019 demandant copie de ceratins documents à la Cour. reçue le 12-FEV-2019
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2019-02-07
Montréal
Lettre envoyée du greffe le 07-FEV-2019 à Johanne Lopez suite à la directive de Mme la juge Kane et accusé de reception du CD de l' audition du 1er février 2019. Copie placée au dossier Copie placée au dossier.
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2019-02-06
Montréal
Written directions received from the Court: Alexandra Steele, Prothonotary dated 06-FEB-2019 directing that "FURTHER to the case management conference held on February 1, 2019, the parties shall not be required to take any steps in this proceeding until this Court has released its ruling on the Respondent's motion to strike the Application. If, as a result of the Court's ruling, this matter is to move forward, the parties shall be required to prepare and submit to the Court a draft timetable for the next steps to be completed in this proceeding and leading up to a hearing (...) The parties shall be dispensed from filing a requisition under Rule 314 of the Federal Courts Rules upon filing of the letter requesting a hearing date (...)" placed on file on 06-FEB-2019 Confirmed in writing to the party(ies)
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2019-02-05
Montréal
Demande de la part Johanne Lopez, Davies Ward Philips & Vineberg Demande de copie d'un enregistrement audio-numérique de la Cour fédérale le 1 février 2018 avec madame la juge Kane à Montréal. placée au dossier le 05-FEV-2019
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2019-02-01
Montréal
Montréal 01-FEB-2019 BEFORE Alexandra Steele, Prothonotary Language: E Before the Court: Case Management Conference Result of Hearing: The Court will issue an order shortly, based on the discussions held during the present case management conference. held by way of Conference Call Duration per day: 01-FEB-2019 from 15:30 to 16:35 Courtroom : Courtroom 241 - Montréal Court Registrar: Sonya Brault Total Duration: 1h 5min Appearances: Mr William McNamara/ Mr Grant Worden/ Ms Emma Loignon-Giroux 416-865-7380/ 416-868-5700/ 514-868-5700 representing the Applicants Mr Andrew J. Lenz/ Mr David Migicovsky 613-566-2837/ 613-566-2749 representing the Respondents Comments: Further to the instructions of the Court (Madam Prothonotary Alexandra Steele), this case management conference was not recorded using the SEAN/DARS or TASCAM audio recording units. Minutes of Hearing entered in Vol. 1016 page(s) 307 - 311 Abstract of Hearing placed on file
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2019-02-01
Montréal
Montréal 01-FEB-2019 BEFORE The Honourable Madam Justice Kane Language: E Before the Court: Motion Doc. No. 11 on behalf of Respondent to strike the Applicants' Notice of Application Result of Hearing: Matter reserved held in Court Senior Usher: Benoît Mondion Duration per day: 01-FEB-2019 from 09:31 to 15:08 Courtroom : Courtroom 334 - Montréal Court Registrar: Rola Chedid Total Duration: 5h37min Appearances: Messrs. William McNamara and Grant Worden and Ms. Emma Loignon-Giroux 514.868.5622; 514.865.7698; 514.868.5614 representing Applicants Messrs. David Migicovsky and Andrew Lenz 613.566.2833; 613.566.2842 representing Respondent Comments: Digital Audio Recording System used Z006681 Minutes of Hearing entered in Vol. 1016 page(s) 22 - 29 Abstract of Hearing placed on file
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2019-02-01
Montréal
Annotated Supplementary Book of Authorities on behalf of the Applicants with respect to the Respondent's Motion document 11 one copy for the Court (Kane, J.), one copy stored in Ottawa received at hearing on 01-FEB-2019
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2019-02-01
Montréal
Annotated Supplementary Book of Authorities, on behalf of the Respondent, with respect to her Motion document 11. One copy to the Court (Kane, J.) one copy stored in Ottawa received at hearing on 01-FEB-2019
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2019-01-31
Montréal
Supplementary Authorities consisting of 1 volume(s) on behalf of the Applicants with proof of service upon all parties on 31-JAN-2019 received on 31-JAN-2019 Sent directly to Presiding Judge
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2019-01-31
Montréal
Supplementary Authorities consisting of 1 volume(s) on behalf of Respondent with proof of service upon all parties on 31-JAN-2019 received on 31-JAN-2019 Sent directly to Presiding Judge
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2019-01-30
Montréal
Letter from Mr William McNamara, Counsel for the Applicants, dated 30-JAN-2019 writing further to the Court's Direction dated January 18, 2019 and asking that the present letter be brought to the attention of Madam Prothonotary Alexandra Steele (...) indicating that Counsel for the Applicants have provided Counsel for the Respondent with a draft timetable for their comments (...) indicating that the parties appear to disagree over scheduling discussions with regard to the steps going ahead on the merits in this matter (...); with proof of service upon all parties on 30-JAN-2019 received on 30-JAN-2019
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2019-01-25
Toronto
Memorandum to file from Toronto dated 25-JAN-2019 Responding Record doc 30, Book of Authorities doc id 62 copies distributed as follows: Original and Judge's copy to OTT, Local office copy sent to MTL placed on file.
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2019-01-25
Toronto
Solicitor's certificate of service on behalf of W. Grant Worden confirming service of doc 30, Book of Authorities upon Respondent by email on consent on 25-JAN-2019 filed on 25-JAN-2019
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2019-01-25
Toronto
Book of Authorities consisting of 2 volume(s) on behalf of Applicant received on 25-JAN-2019
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2019-01-25
Toronto
Motion Record in response to Motion Doc. No. 11 containing the following original document(s): 29 Number of copies received: 3 on behalf of Applicant filed on 25-JAN-2019
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2019-01-25
Toronto
Written Representations contained within a Motion Record on behalf of Applicant concerning Motion Doc. No. 11 filed on 25-JAN-2019
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2019-01-25
Montréal
Covering letter from Mr Grant Worden, Counsel for the Applicants, dated 22-JAN-2019 concerning Doc. Nos. 27 28 placed on file on 25-JAN-2019
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2019-01-22
Montréal
Solicitor's certificate of service on behalf of W. Grant Worden confirming service of the PUBLIC REDACTED Version of the Applicants' Motion Record for a Confidentiality order (2 Volumes) (Doc.# 27) upon Counsel for the Respondents by email (with Consent - Doc.# 20) on 22-JAN-2019 filed on 22-JAN-2019
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2019-01-22
Montréal
Motion Record containing the following original document(s): 23 24 25 26 Number of copies received: 3 on behalf of the Applicants (PUBLIC - REDACTED Version) filed on 22-JAN-2019
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2019-01-22
Montréal
Written Representations (PUBLIC - REDACTED) contained within a Motion Record on behalf of the Applicants concerning Motion Doc. No. 23 filed on 22-JAN-2019
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2019-01-22
Montréal
Affidavit of Affidavit of Diane Zimmerman (PUBLIC - REDACTED Version) sworn on 18-JAN-2019 contained within a Motion Record on behalf of the Applicants in support of Motion Doc. No. 23 with Exhibits "A" to "D"; filed on 22-JAN-2019
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2019-01-22
Montréal
Affidavit of Erik Ryan (PUBLIC - REDACTED Version) sworn on 18-JAN-2019 contained within a Motion Record on behalf of the Applicants in support of Motion Doc. No. 23 with Exhibits "A" to "N"; filed on 22-JAN-2019
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2019-01-22
Montréal
Notice of Motion (PUBLIC - REDACTED Version) contained within a Motion Record on behalf of the Applicants returnable (but no hearing date indicated at this time) for an Order that the Respondent's R.318 material (transmitted), be maintained under confidential seal pursuant to Rule 151 of the Federal Courts Rules ("Rules") until such time as the confidential seal is either removed or varied by direction or order of this Court or if the material otherwise becomes publicly available; that the Affidavit of Erik Ryan sworn on January 18, 2019, also be kept under confidential pursuant to R.151; fo an order that this motion be heard in camera pursuant to Rule 29(2) - in the alternative, for an order that the evidence and submissions referring to the Respondent's R.318 material be heard in camera; costs of this motion; (...); Mr William McNamara, Tel.: 514-868-5622/ 416-865-7988 filed on 22-JAN-2019
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2019-01-18
Montréal
Acknowledgment of Receipt received from all parties with respect to the Court's Direction issued on January 18, 2019; placed on file on 18-JAN-2019
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2019-01-18
Montréal
Written directions received from the Court: Alexandra Steele, Prothonotary dated 18-JAN-2019 directing that " (...) the parties shall submit to the Court a proposed agenda for the next case management conference, and indicate whether a proposed step or issue is contested, by no later than January 30, 2019." placed on file on 18-JAN-2019 Confirmed in writing to the party(ies)
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2019-01-18
Montréal
Acknowledgment of Receipt received from all parties with respect to the Court Order rendered on January 18, 2019 (Doc.# 22) placed on file on 18-JAN-2019
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2019-01-18
Montréal
Order dated 18-JAN-2019 rendered by Alexandra Steele, Prothonotary Matter considered without personal appearance The Court's decision is with regard to Order dated 18-DEC-2018 Result: " (...) THIS COURT ORDERS that: 1. The Applicants are permitted to serve and file, by no later than January 18, 2019, a confidential version of their affidavit, exhibits and written representations, which shall form part of their motion record in support of a motion for a confidentiality order made pursuant to paragraph 4 of the Order of December 18, 2018. 2. The Registry is directed to accept for filing the motion record of the Applicants containing documents under seal. 3. Upon filing by the Applicants of a motion for a confidentiality order pursuant to paragraph 1 of this Order, the Registry shall further maintain under confidential seal the material transmitted by the Director of Public Prosecutions on January 7, 2019 pursuant to Rule 318 and shall not make it publicly available until such time as the confidential seal is either removed or varied by direction or order of this Court. The last part of paragraph 2c) of the Order of December 18, 2018 shall apply in the absence of filing of such a motion by the Applicants. 4. The Applicants shall, by no later than January 22, 2019, serve and file a public version of their affidavit, exhibits and written submissions relating to their motion for a confidentiality order, from which only the information required to be treated as confidential shall have been redacted. 5. The timetable provided in paragraphs 5 and 6 of the Order of December 18, 2018 for the service of Affidavits under Rules 306 and 307 is stayed pending the Court's further order or directions. 6. All other applicable provisions of the Order of December 18, 2018 shall remain in effect." Filed on 18-JAN-2019 entered in J. & O. Book, volume 1397 page(s) 252 - 254 Interlocutory Decision
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2019-01-18
Toronto
Solicitor's certificate of service on behalf of W.Grant Worden confirming service of Applicants' Motion Record for a Confidentiality Order (2 volumes) (Returnable February 1, 2019) and Book of Authorities upon Respondent by email (electronic service on consent) on 18-JAN-2019 filed on 18-JAN-2019
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2019-01-18
Toronto
Consent on behalf of Respondent to Electronic Service of all documents that does not require to be served personally... filed on 18-JAN-2019
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2019-01-18
Toronto
Book of Authorities consisting of 1 volume(s) on behalf of Applicant received on 18-JAN-2019 Sent directly to Presiding Judge
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2019-01-18
Toronto
Sealed envelope pursuant to Court Order dated January 18, 2019 and Rule 151 of the Federal Courts Rules on behalf of Applicant purporting to contain Notice of Motion (Doc 18), two supporting affidavits and Written Representations (2 volume set) Filed on 18-JAN-2019
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2019-01-18
Toronto
Confidential Notice of Motion (contained in sealed envelope) contained within a Motion Record on behalf of Applicant returnable at Special Sitting in Montréal on 01-FEB-2019 to begin at 09:30 for an Order for Confidentiality pursuant to Rule 151 of the Federal Courts Rules and such further relief filed on 18-JAN-2019
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2019-01-18
Montréal
Montréal 18-JAN-2019 BEFORE Alexandra Steele, Prothonotary Language: E Before the Court: Case Management Conference Result of Hearing: The Court (Madam Prothonotary Alexandra Steele), will issue an order shortly, pursuant to the issues discussed during the present case management conference (CMC). held by way of Conference Call Duration per day: 18-JAN-2019 from 11:03 to 12:13 Courtroom : Courtroom 241 - Montréal Court Registrar: Sonya Brault Total Duration: 1h 10min Appearances: Mr William McNamara 416-865-7988 representing the Applicants Mr Grant Worden 416-865-7698 representing the Applicants Ms Emma Loignon-Giroux 514-868-5614 representing the Applicants Mr Andrew J. Lenz 613-566-2842 representing Respondent Mr David Migicovsky 613-566-2833 representing Respondent Comments: Further to the instructions of the Court, this Case Management Conference was not recorded using the SEAN/DARS or TASCAM audio recording units. Minutes of Hearing entered in Vol. 1015 page(s) 126 - 128 Abstract of Hearing placed on file
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2019-01-17
Montréal
Written directions received from the Court: Alexandra Steele, Prothonotary dated 17-JAN-2019 directing that "The Court is in receipt of the Applicant's request that the case management conference be held in camera. The Court fails to see what confidential information, if any, will be disclosed during the case management conference. This conference was convened on the basis that the parties wanted to address scheduling issues surrounding the request for directions under Rule 318(3). The Applicant has also indicated it intends to imminently file its motion under Rules 151 and 152 and seeks directions as to sealing its affidavit and written submissions. These issues can also be addressed without disclosure of the actual contents of the documents. If the Court determines during the case management conference that there is a need for confidentiality measures, it will take the appropriate measures at that time. The Applicant's request for an in camera hearing is consequently denied. Arrangements for the case management conference have been made to ensure the best use of the Court's limited resources, as well as the resources of the parties, and in fairness to both parties. The Applicant's request to attend in person is also denied." placed on file on 17-JAN-2019 Confirmed in writing to the party(ies)
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2019-01-17
Montréal
Letter from Mr Grant Worden, Counsel for the Applicants, dated 16-JAN-2019 asking that this letter be brought to the attention of Madam Prothonotary Alexandra Steele and seeking directions regarding the filing of the Applicants' motion pursuant to RUles 151/152 (FCR) to maintain the documents that the Respondent transmitted to the Court Registry on January 7, 2019 pursuant to Rule 318, filed under seal (...); with proof of service upon all parties on 17-JAN-2019 received on 17-JAN-2019
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2019-01-17
Montréal
Letter from Mr Andrew J. Lenz, Counsel for the Respondent, dated 17-JAN-2019 writing further to the Court's Direction dated January 16, 2019 and asking that this letter and enclosures be brought to the attention of Madam Prothonotary Alexandra Steele (...) (Enclosed are the following: a copy of the Motion Record of the Respondent, a copy of correspondence to Counsel for the Applicants, dated January 15, 2019 and a copy of case law: Forner v. PIPSC, 2016 FCA 35); with proof of service upon all parties on 17-JAN-2019 received on 17-JAN-2019
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2019-01-16
Montréal
Letter sent by Registry on 16-JAN-2019 to all parties confirming that a Case Management Conference will take place on Friday, January 18, 2019, at 11:00 a.m. (EST), by way of telephone conference and providing the parties with the call-in information; (Sent by both email and fax); Copy placed on file.
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2019-01-16
Montréal
Oral directions received from the Court: Alexandra Steele, Prothonotary dated 16-JAN-2019 directing that The Court is in receipt of the letters from counsel for the Applicant and from counsel for the Respondent received on January 15, 2019. The Court understands that the parties have been unable to resolve objections made under Rule 318(2) and that there is a dispute over the procedure to be suggested to the Court to resolve the objections. At the request of the parties, the Court schedules a case management conference to be held by teleconference on January 17, 2019 at 1:00 pm (ET) to address this issue. The Court has the benefit of the Applicant's suggested procedure for making submissions on the objections, but not the Respondent's suggested procedure. Accordingly, the Respondent is directed to provide the Court with the procedure it suggests in advance of the case management conference, and in any event by no later than 10:00 am on January 17, 2019. placed on file on 16-JAN-2019 Confirmed in writing to the party(ies)
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2019-01-15
Montréal
Letter from Applicant dated 15-JAN-2019 writing further to Me Lenz's letter of today's date and requesting a case management conference at the earliest convenience of the Court. received on 15-JAN-2019
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2019-01-15
Montréal
Letter from Respondent dated 15-JAN-2019 in response to letter from Applicants dated January 14, 2019, and requesting a case managment conference. received on 15-JAN-2019
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2019-01-15
Montréal
Letter from Applicant dated 14-JAN-2019 concerning the objection to R.317 and proposing that this motion be heard at on February 1, 2019 after the conclusion of the hearing of its motion to strike. received on 15-JAN-2019
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2019-01-08
Ottawa
Solicitor's certificate of service on behalf of Andrew Lenz confirming service of Sealed Envelope purporting to contain the Record of Documentation of the Director of Public Prosecutions upon Applicants by email on 08-JAN-2019 filed on 08-JAN-2019
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2019-01-08
Ottawa
Solicitor's certificate of service on behalf of Andrew Lenz confirming service of Respondent's Motion Record upon Applicants by email on 08-JAN-2019 filed on 08-JAN-2019
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2019-01-08
Ottawa
Consent on behalf of Applicants to the electronic service of all documents in the application that are not required to be served personally. filed on 08-JAN-2019
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2019-01-08
Ottawa
Sealed Envelope purporting to contain the Record of Documentation of the Director of Public Prosecution (pursuant to Order of this Court dated December 18, 2018) filed on 08-JAN-2019
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2019-01-08
Ottawa
Book of Authorities (Appendix B) consisting of 2 volume(s) on behalf of Respondent received on 08-JAN-2019 Sent directly to Presiding Judge
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2019-01-08
Ottawa
Motion Record containing the following original document(s): 11 12 Number of copies received: 3 on behalf of Respondent filed on 08-JAN-2019
12
2019-01-08
Ottawa
Memorandum of Fact and Law with Appendix A (1 volume) contained within a Motion Record on behalf of Respondent filed on 08-JAN-2019 1 judges' copies Sent directly to Presiding Judge
11
2019-01-08
Ottawa
Notice of Motion contained within a Motion Record on behalf of Respondent returnable at Special Sitting in Montréal on 01-FEB-2019 to begin at 09:30 for an Order that the Applicant's application be struck without leave to amend pursuant to Rule 359 of the Federal Courts Rules; 2. If this motion is successful in whole or in part, an award of costs in favour of the Respondent. filed on 08-JAN-2019
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2018-12-18
Montréal
Acknowledgment of Receipt received from all parties with respect to Order rendered on December 18, 2018 placed on file on 18-DEC-2018
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2018-12-18
Montréal
Order dated 18-DEC-2018 rendered by Alexandra Steele, Prothonotary Matter considered with personal appearance The Court's decision is with regard to Case Management Conference Result: scheduling Order see joint document for details Filed on 18-DEC-2018 copies sent to parties entered in J. & O. Book, volume 1395 page(s) 231 - 234 Interlocutory Decision
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2018-12-17
Montréal
Montréal 17-DEC-2018 BEFORE Alexandra Steele, Prothonotary Language: E Before the Court: Case Management Conference Result of Hearing: The Court will issue a decision shortly. held by way of Conference Call Duration per day: 17-DEC-2018 from 14:04 to 15:14 Courtroom : Courtroom 241 - Montréal Court Registrar: Sonya Brault Total Duration: 1h10min Appearances: Mr William McNamara 416-868-7988 representing the Applicants Mr Grant Worden 416-868-7988 representing the Applicants Ms Emma Loignon-Leroux 514-868-5600 representing the Applicants Mr Andrew J.F. Lenz 613-566-2833 representing the Respondents Mr David Migicovsky 613-566-2833 representing the Respondents Comments: Further to the instructions of the Court (Madam Prothonotary Alexandra Steele), this case management conference was not recorded using the SEAN/ DARS or TASCAM audio recording units. Minutes of Hearing entered in Vol. 1013 page(s) 410 - 412 Abstract of Hearing placed on file
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2018-12-17
Montréal
Letter from Mr Andrew J.F.Lenz, Counsel for the Respondents, dated 17-DEC-2018 writing in response to the letter from the Applicants' Counsel dated December 5 and 14, 2018 and asking for this letter to be brought to the attention of Madam Prothonotary Alexandra Steele, for the Case Management Conference to be held on Monday, December 17, 2018 (...) and enclosing several case law decisions (...); received on 17-DEC-2018
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2018-12-17
Montréal
Letter from Mr William McNamara, Counsel for the Applicants, dated 14-DEC-2018 asking for this letter to be brought to the attention of Madam Prothonotary Alexandra Steele, for the Case Management Conference to be held on Monday, December 17, 2018 (...) the Applicants propose the schedule set out (therein) and will be seeking a direction that all interlocutory motion, including the Respondent's proposed motion to strike, be heard by the Application Judge at the outset of the Application hearing, which is proposed to take place in May (...) the Respondent has advised that it opposes the proposed scehdule on the basis that it does not provide for an interlocutory motion to strike, the Respondent has not provided an alternate schedule (...) Additionally, by way of background, the Applicants recommend several article published this week which underscore the urgent nature of this important application, for the Court (hyperlinks to articles provided therein, as well as hard copies in attachment) (...); received on 17-DEC-2018
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2018-12-06
Montréal
Letter from Respondent dated 06-DEC-2018 In response to the Applicant's letter dated 5-DEC-2018 "Please be advised that we will not be engaging in any further litigation by letter. Any submissions that we have to make will be made at the case conference (...)" received on 06-DEC-2018
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2018-12-06
Montréal
Letter from Applicant dated 05-DEC-2018 "(...) For the reasons set out in our November 30th letter to the Court, it is critical that this application for judiciail review be heard and determined expeditiously. (...)" received on 06-DEC-2018
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2018-12-05
Montréal
Letter from Respondent dated 05-DEC-2018 indicating that the Respondents are not available for a CMC on 10-DEC-2018 received on 05-DEC-2018
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2018-12-03
Montréal
Communication to the Court from the Registry dated 03-DEC-2018 re: request for CMC (Id.17)
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2018-12-03
Montréal
Letter from Plaintiff dated 30-NOV-2018 requesting Prothonotary Steele to schedule a case management conference during the week of December 10, 2018. received on 03-DEC-2018
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2018-11-27
Ottawa
Acknowledgment of Receipt received from both parties (by fax) with respect to doc 9 placed on file on 27-NOV-2018
9
2018-11-27
Ottawa
Order dated 27-NOV-2018 rendered by Chief Justice Crampton Matter considered without personal appearance The Court's decision is with regard to Order dated 07-NOV-2018 Result: IT IS ORDERED pursuant to Rule 383 that Prothonotary Alexandra Steele is assigned as Case Management Judge in this matter. Filed on 27-NOV-2018 copies sent to parties entered in J. & O. Book, volume 1393 page(s) 175 - 175 Interlocutory Decision
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2018-11-26
Ottawa
Letter from Applicant dated 26-NOV-2018 requesting that a Case Management Judge be appointed as soon as possible in order to move forward with this Application -scanned to the Judicial Administrator- received on 26-NOV-2018
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2018-11-21
Ottawa
Solicitor's certificate of service on behalf of David Migicovsky confirming service of Doc. No.6 upon Applicant by telecopier on 20-NOV-2018 filed on 21-NOV-2018
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2018-11-21
Ottawa
Solicitor's certificate of service on behalf of David Migicovsky confirming service of doc.no.6 upon previous Solicitor by telecopier on 20-NOV-2018 filed on 21-NOV-2018
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2018-11-21
Ottawa
Notice of change of solicitor on behalf of Respondent filed on 21-NOV-2018
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2018-11-07
Ottawa
Confirmation of transmittal receipt via facsimile received from all parties with respect to doc. #5 placed on file on 07-NOV-2018
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2018-11-07
Ottawa
Communication to the Court from the Registry dated 07-NOV-2018 re: File sent to TrialJA for assignment of CMJ (see doc. #5)
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2018-11-07
Ottawa
Order dated 07-NOV-2018 rendered by Mandy Aylen, Prothonotary Matter considered without personal appearance The Court's decision is with regard to Letter from Applicant dated 02-NOV-2018 re: request for case management Result: granted THIS COURT ORDERS THAT: 1. The application shall continue as a specially case managed proceeding. 2. The application is hereby referred to the Chief Justice for designation of a Case Management Judge. 3. The parties shall, within 10 days of the date of the appointment of a Case Management Judge, provide dates and times of mutual availability for a case management conference in the event such conference is deemed to be necessary by the Case Management Judge. Filed on 07-NOV-2018 copies sent to parties Transmittal Letters placed on file. entered in J. & O. Book, volume 1390 page(s) 436 - 437 Interlocutory Decision
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2018-11-06
Ottawa
Communication to the Court from the Registry dated 06-NOV-2018 re: Applicant's request to have this matter case managed
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2018-11-05
Ottawa
Letter from Respondent dated 05-NOV-2018 "I am counsel for the Respondent...We are in receipt of Mr. McNamara's letter of November 2, 2018...the DPP does not necessarily agree with the rationale for the appointment as set out in the letter. It is premature to make any decision relating to an abridged timetable...Finally, please note that the DPP is in the process of retaining external counsel and a Notice of change of solicitor will be filed shorlty..." received on 05-NOV-2018
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2018-11-02
Ottawa
Letter from Applicant dated 02-NOV-2018 requesting that a Case Management Judge be assigned to this matter. received on 02-NOV-2018
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2018-10-29
Ottawa
Affidavit of service of Layla Abbar sworn on 29-OCT-2018 on behalf of Respondent confirming service of Notice of Appearance upon Applicant by telecopier on 26-OCT-2018 filed on 29-OCT-2018
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2018-10-25
Ottawa
Notice of appearance on behalf of Respondent filed on 25-OCT-2018
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2018-10-25
Ottawa
Affidavit of service of Gianni Donatucci sworn on 24-OCT-2018 on behalf of Applicant confirming service of Notice of Application upon Respondent, the Director of Public Prosecutions by personal service on 19-OCT-2018 filed on 25-OCT-2018
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2018-10-19
Montréal
Notice of application with regard to Judicial Review (s.18) filed on 19-OCT-2018 Certified copy(ies)/copy(ies) transmitted to Director of the Regional Office of the Department of Justice Tariff fee of $50.00 received: yes
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David Raymond Amos@DavidRayAmos Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others Methinks this lawyer is very interesting too bad so sad that he had no time to talk to me today Everybody knows I can help him with his woes with the Taxman N'esy Pas?
Stephen Ralph LeDrew (born 1953) is a Toronto-based lawyer and broadcaster. He served as President of the Liberal Party of Canada from 1998 to 2003, and was a Mayor of Toronto candidate in the 2006 municipal election. He hosted LeDrew Live on CP24 and also co-hosted CP24 Live at Noon as well as being the news station's political analyst until he was fired in December 2017 after seven years with the station.[1]
As a lawyer, LeDrew served as the Executive Assistant to the Solicitor General of Canada, Government Affairs Counsel for Manulife, and Director of Operations in the Prime Minister's Office. After serving in government, he practised administrative law in the private sector for over 25 years.
Political career
LeDrew was elected president of the Liberal Party of Canada in March 1998, then re-elected in March 2000, serving until November 2003. Occasionally outspoken, he famously derided the Chrétien government's plan to severely limit corporate donations to political parties as being as "dumb as a bag of hammers".[2] On September 28, 2006, immediately prior to nomination cut-off date, LeDrew announced his candidacy for Mayor of Toronto in that year's municipal election against incumbent David Miller, centre-right challenger Jane Pitfield and a host of fringe candidates. Although he received considerable media coverage and was invited to participate in election debates with Miller and Pitfield, LeDrew finished a distant third with only 1.3% of the vote.
Broadcasting
From 2007 until 2009, LeDrew co-hosted a talk show with Michael Coren on CFRB 1010 in Toronto titled Two Bald Guys With Strong Opinions. In January 2009, LeDrew began co-hosting a weekday noon news programme with Ann Rohmer on CP24 tiled Live at Noon working there as a political analyst. Due to these television commitments, LeDrew quit his CFRB 1010 show on March 25, 2009. He was fired from CP24 in December 2017 for violating the non-competition clause of his contract by appearing on Fox News Channel.[1]
Personal
In 2005, LeDrew was forced to declare personal bankruptcy by his sole creditor, the federal government. At that time LeDrew claimed this action against him was incited by his stand against Jean Chrétien's efforts to remain as party leader without a leadership review vote, contrary to the constitution of the Liberal Party of Canada. LeDrew owed C$364,140 in back taxes, which he had been in the process of paying down. The court ordered him to pay 74% of this amount, even though LeDrew had earlier offered to pay 100% of his arrears over time; the government had rejected this offer. The judge on the case noted that LeDrew placed priority on personal expenses rather than his tax obligations.[3] LeDrew stated in reply at the time that his children and their needs came first, and he would not have done anything differently. LeDrew is a divorced father of four children. Stephen LeDrew is past president of the National Club in Toronto.
Stephen LeDrew was so sure he would be back on his popular CP24 Live at Noon show he had two special guests lined up for the day of his return following a one-week suspension.
TTC boss Andy Byford and former foreign affairs minister Peter MacKay were booked. LeDrew had his coloured glasses and bow tie picked out.
The comeback didn’t happen. Instead, the former Toronto mayoral candidate said he was called into an office where “people were snarling at me.” It turns out the suspension for his appearance on Tucker Carlson’s FOX News program is not the only punishment.
“I was fired,” said LeDrew. “Fired for cause for violating our competition clause. Merry Christmas.”
Stephen LeDrew speaks to the Toronto Sun editorial board. (Stan Behal/Toronto Sun)Stan Behal / Toronto Sun/Postmedia Network The one-time Liberal Party of Canada’s president found himself in trouble for a Dec. 1 appearance on Carlson’s show where he defended a 15-letter acronym LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP being used in schools to protect against bullying.
LeDrew defended it to a skeptical Carlson but, he said, Bell Media decided to admonish him for “going on a competitor’s show without prior permission.”
LeDrew, a lawyer, said he was asked to sign a letter of apology that would allow him back on the air Dec. 8.
“I was worried the wording of the letter would not let me talk to law society events or the kids at Ryerson, but I was going to sign it because I wanted to get back on,” he said.
But after pushing his comeback date to Dec. 11, he was kept from the studio when he arrived.
“I was later ushered out and not allowed to go and get my coat,” he said. “I guess I shouldn’t have giggled when CTV news told me that Fox was its competition.”
LeDrew, who wished he could have said goodbye to his “terrific” colleagues, said he was also told he should not have done media interviews following his suspension.
Bell has not commented other than to say “Stephen LeDrew is no longer with Bell Media.”
It is disappointing because as a viewer and occasional guest, I think Stephen was very good at his job. He did it with professionalism, style and flare for seven years.
Tucker Carlson speaks onstage at IGNITION: Future of Media at Time Warner Center on November 29, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Roy Rochlin/Getty Images)
If there was a story in Toronto, LeDrew was the place on TV where viewers and newsmakers would go. That he could be dismissed over this seems over the top. How are characters and free thinkers to work in this kind of environment? TV and radio needs to be edgy and controversial instead of rigid and politically correct.
LeDrew doesn’t believe this was because of his “fish or fowl, frick of frack” answer to explaining the definition of what a “two spirited” person is but more about appearing without clearance and “that I talked with the press.”
Ironic, he was talking about free speech on the show.
“They just want everybody under their thumb,” said LeDrew. “I am OK. It just means I will be able to spend more time with my family over the holidays.”
But after that, LeDrew said he will be available to do commentary.
“This is a serious time in our country,” he said. “I will still talk about important issues.” Just not on CP24.
Methinks it would be interesting to see what Minister Bernadette Jordan thinks of this spit and chew about our garbage We already know what Rob Moore the wannabe MP again thinks of her new position N'esy Pas?
Province helps mend rift between communities after service commission dissolved
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David Amos
Methinks it would be interesting to see what Bernadette Jordan Canada’s inaugural minister of rural economic development thinks of this spit and chew about our garbage We already know what our former MP thinks of her position N'esy Pas?
New rural development minister is first female Nova Scotia MP named to federal cabinet By Holly McKenzie-Sutter The Canadian Press January 14, 2019 3:07 pm
"Rob Moore, Conservative shadow minister for Atlantic Canada, wished Jordan well with her new portfolio, but questioned Trudeau’s motives so close to October’s federal election.
Moore said the new portfolio “appears to just be a communications exercise” that may stand for too little, too late.
“It appears to be just to give off the impression that they’re connected or concerned with Atlantic issues, when in fact the last three years tells us that Atlantic and rural issues are on the backburner,” Moore said.
Trudeau’s cabinet came under fire from some Atlantic Canadians when Navdeep Bains, a Mississauga MP, was put in charge of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency.
Criticism also followed when New Brunswick MP Dominic LeBlanc was shuffled out of the Fisheries portfolio to be replaced with Jonathan Wilkinson, who represents North Vancouver.
Jordan said Monday the government has a genuine commitment to rural Canada.
“I think it’s an unfortunate thing that people don’t consider rural important, because rural is extremely important to this government, we’re showing that,” she said."
Province helps mend rift between communities after service commission dissolved
Board serving 18 towns and rural communities in Sussex-Hampton dissolved last month amid budget dispute
Connell Smith· CBC News·
The waste transfer station in Sussex maintained by Regional Service Commission 8. The facility is at the heart of a dispute that pits rural communities against the region's incorporated communities. (RSC 8)
The Department of Local Government will arrange training and mediation to help mend a rift between the towns and many rural communities in the greater Sussex-Hampton area.
The volunteer board serving that region's service commission was dissolved by Local Government Minister Jeff Carr in early February after it became hopelessly divided over the 2019 budget.
Brenda Knight, a retired municipal administrator, has been appointed trustee to oversee operations in the board's stead.
On March 5, Knight approved a budget for the commission, which will be presented to representatives of the four municipalities and 14 local service districts in coming weeks.
In the meantime, Erika Jutras, a Department of Local Government spokeswoman, said the trustee will remain in place until either members "demonstrate" they can work together or the next municipal elections in May 2020, whichever comes first.
Division over solid waste costs
The board split last fall over how solid waste management costs were to be divided between the towns and unincorporated rural communities, called local service districts.
Many of the board members representing LSDs feel they are paying too much for waste management. Mary Ann Coleman chairs the LSD Advisory Committee for Waterford, which has a population of approximately 500.
She says costs should be allocated strictly on how waste is generated by each community.
The current cost formula involves a combination of a levee on the amount of trash collected and a fixed amount for each community that is dedicated to providing stable funding for the region's waste transfer station in Sussex.
"It's important in my mind that we keep the costs of services, as much as we can, down for people," said Coleman.
"This has an impact on the taxes for people in rural areas."
She says the costs to operate the waste transfer station should be taken entirely from tipping fees, which would cost the towns more and the LSDs less.
Proposed budget 'didn't suit' some municipalities
James McCrea was chair of the service commission board at the time it was dissolved.
McCrea, who is from the LSD of Wickham, says the costs are not being distributed fairly, based on trash volumes alone, and that goes against the intent of regulations set out by the province.
"It was a fair budget, it was a really good budget that was proposed. But it didn't suit some of the municipalities and a couple of the local service districts," said McCrea.
James McCrea was chair of the board for Regional Service District 8 when it was dissolved by the province in February. He represents Wickham LSD Advisory Committee. (Maria Jose Burgos, CBC)
Speaking to CBC last month, Sussex Mayor Marc Thorne said the budget proposed by the LSDs threatened the future of the region's waste transfer station and recycling operations because the station requires stable funding year-to-year while trash volumes fluctuate.
McCrea says in asking for the change to the funding formula the rural communities are not trying to threaten the viability of the transfer station.
"There's never been a problem existed that can't be dealt with and fixed, but everyone has to work together and share the costs."
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Connell Smith
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Connell Smith is a reporter with CBC in Saint John. He can be reached at 632-7726 Connell.smith@cbc.ca
(MONTRÉAL) – In reaction to the federal government’s announcement of an investment of $49 million to Calgary-based Inter Pipeline, to turn Alberta propane into plastic pellets for the manufacture of consumer products, Sarah King Greenpeace Canada’s Head of Oceans & Plastics Campaign said: “It’s hypocritical for the federal government to claim it’s committed to reducing plastic waste and pollution, yet provide multimillion-dollar grants to the companies that produce the plastic in the first place. If this government truly wanted to tackle this plastics crisis, it would put its money where its mouth is and invest these taxpayer dollars into funding innovation of new delivery and refill and reuse systems using plastic-free product packaging instead of adding more plastic into the system.
It’s obvious that investing in producing more plastic offsets any progress towards a solution. We generate so much plastic waste that in recent years we’ve had to export upwards of half of it to other countries. Now many are closing their doors tired of being dumping grounds for Canada’s plastic problem. The only way to reduce waste and curb pollution is to stop producing the destructive products in the first place and ban some of the most problematic single-use plastics to reduce our impact on our oceans.”
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For more information, please contact: Philippa Duchastel de Montrouge, Communications Officer, Greenpeace Canada, pduchast@greenpeace.org; +1 (514) 929-8227
New rural development minister is first female Nova Scotia MP named to federal cabinet
By Holly McKenzie-Sutter The Canadian Press
WATCH: Global News spoke with Dalhousie University political science professor Lori Turnbull about the federal cabinet shuffle and why Bernadette Jordan was chosen to enter cabinet from our regions. Here's what she had to say.
Canada’s inaugural minister of rural economic development is herself a first – the first woman representing Nova Scotia in the federal cabinet.
MP Bernadette Jordan was sworn into the newly minted portfolio in Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s cabinet Monday morning, after MP Scott Brison announced his sudden departure last week.
Jordan was also the first woman elected to represent her riding of South Shore-St. Margarets, in 2015.
Jordan is to create a rural-development strategy, including bringing high-speed internet to rural communities and help in rural infrastructure development, the Prime Minister’s Office said.
“I couldn’t imagine living anywhere else but in a rural community because I feel there’s a real sense of community, because of that I was always somebody who wanted to give back,” Jordan said in an interview with The Canadian Press.
“One of the reasons I ran to begin with was because I felt strongly that rural Canada, or rural Nova Scotia had to be better represented.”
Jordan said she’s planning to prioritize broadband and cell phone connectivity to make it easier for Canadians to build lives in rural Canada.
“There are a lot of people who would like to work in rural Canada, who would like to set up businesses, who would like to study from there and it’s just not possible because of poor connectivity,” she said.
Nova Scotia Premier Stephen McNeil tweeted his congratulations to Jordan on her historic appointment on Monday: “She will lead a file that is very important to Nova Scotians and I look forward to working with her.”
Rob Moore, Conservative shadow minister for Atlantic Canada, wished Jordan well with her new portfolio, but questioned Trudeau’s motives so close to October’s federal election.
Moore said the new portfolio “appears to just be a communications exercise” that may stand for too little, too late.
“It appears to be just to give off the impression that they’re connected or concerned with Atlantic issues, when in fact the last three years tells us that Atlantic and rural issues are on the backburner,” Moore said.
Trudeau’s cabinet came under fire from some Atlantic Canadians when Navdeep Bains, a Mississauga MP, was put in charge of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency.
Criticism also followed when New Brunswick MP Dominic LeBlanc was shuffled out of the Fisheries portfolio to be replaced with Jonathan Wilkinson, who represents North Vancouver. Jordan said Monday the government has a genuine commitment to rural Canada.
“I think it’s an unfortunate thing that people don’t consider rural important, because rural is extremely important to this government, we’re showing that,” she said.
WATCH: Seamus O’Regan becomes new Minister of Indigenous Services in cabinet shuffle
Jordan, who has three children with her husband, Dave, studied politics at Nova Scotia’s St. Francis Xavier University.
She has previously served as Atlantic caucus chair, chair of the standing committee of fisheries and oceans, and parliamentary secretary for the minister democratic institutions.
Before her time in Ottawa, Jordan worked in the community newspaper industry and as a fundraiser for the local Health Services Foundation in Bridgewater.
Bridgewater Mayor David Mitchell said Jordan will make a great advocate for rural Canada in her new role. He called Jordan “exactly what you want in an MP.”
Jordan introduced a motion in 2016 requesting action on removing derelict vessels abandoned in Canada’s coastal communities, an issue affecting her own riding.
Ottawa later towed the MV Farley Mowat, the one-time flagship of an environmental crusader that had long since become a derelict, polluting eyesore, out of Shelburne, Nova Scotia’s harbour, to great fanfare. Jordan calls the moment her “proudest accomplishment” on the issue.
Why many Quebecers want SNC-Lavalin to stand trial — despite warnings about jobs
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Benjamin Twine
This creates a situation where honest and capable Canadian companies cannot compete for contracts with companies such as SNC that bribe and have direct access to the PMO
Jimmy Moore
@Benjamin Twine A company that has only 900 jobs in Quebec at maximum and 8700 in all of Canada, not worth saving when they got caught giving out more than 130 million in bribes in Lybia alone
Richard Sharp
@Benjamin Twine
What a disgusting post, suggesting SNC has greater access to the PMO or government generally and is tabouret, when all the evidence proves demonstrably the opposite is the case.
vic thomas
@Richard Sharp Get off your high horse Richard..they obviously have priviliged access to the PMO and his staffers. Wernick was taking calls from Mr.Lynch and so on.
Dan Reid
@Richard Sharp the truth bothers you?
vic thomas
@Benjamin Twine This is SNC storied history
been barred from bidding on Asian Development Bank projects for fabricating qualifications and documents (2004); settled corruption allegations with the African Development Bank over bribes in Mozambique (2008) and Uganda (2010); bribed Canadian officials with $22.5 million in relation to a McGill hospital contract (2009); been credibly found by the World Bank as participating in high-level corruption in Bangladesh in 2009-2010, and entered into a voluntary debarment from World Bank-financed projects; entered into a voluntary agreement to compensate seven Quebec municipalities for obtaining contracts through questionable means (1996-2011); made illegal federal election campaign donations (2004-2011), entering into a voluntary compliance agreement with the federal elections commissioner
david mccaig
@Benjamin Twine
More dishonest journalism coming from the CBC again, the headlines read "Why many Quebecers want SNC-Lavalin to stand trial — despite warnings about jobs" how many is "many Quebers" twelve, two dozen, 50 , a hundred. This is dishonest news speaks , the same news speak Fox News uses when the start an false accusation with " some people say".
david mccaig
@Benjamin Twine
"creates a situation where honest and capable Canadian companies cannot compete for contracts with companies such as SNC that bribe "
In many corrupt democracies and dictatorships, FAILING to comply to a request for a bribe will get you shown the door.
david mccaig
@Benjamin Twine
To suggest that a Canadian company has to pass a PURITY TEST to do business in countries that don't adhere to our standards is out right niaeve silliness.
david mccaig
@Benjamin Twine
If Trudeau is GUILTY of anything he's guilty of being a realist.
Kate Ferguson
@Benjamin Twine
No, it does not, but what the heck, any talking point at this point is just fine with CBC, who is keeping this alive, along with most media, because there's nothing else to draw your attention. It pays their bills. lol
Greg Ustina
@Benjamin Twine,
Hey, if you want to compete for a contract in Lybia without paying a bribe you will be wasting your time.
David Amos
@Benjamin Twine Methinks a lot of folks in Quebec have common sense as well N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Kate Ferguson Cry me a river
Dee Ray Ng
@Kate Ferguson
Seem to recall seeing your avatar on the very many alive and well Trump stories.
Meh, could be wrong.
James Holden
I want to see SNC-Lavallin prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The board of directors at the time of the (alleged) crimes should he prosecuted as they are legally responsible for the actions of their company. Once boards of directors begin to go to jail, corporate behavior will improve immediately.
Richard Riel
@James Holden Doubt it, the fines are so silly and laughable it is the reason they have spread and prospered like a disease in full view across the world.
Jimmy Moore
@Richard Riel Kind of like the Ethics commissioners $500 forgivable fine with no actual punishment or accountability, its Worked out well for Trudeau once personally, and 5 times already for his Government
Richard Riel
@Jimmy Moore Open barn doors for immigrants who don't understand this country and they all say oh what nice hair. Our system is being hijacked and manipulated by this government who get to keep all the taxes.
Jimmy Moore
@Richard Riel Yes 85% of which are all on welfare now that we have to pay for, and will be for several generations, we are still dealing with both Jamaica, Haitian, and Somalian refugees who as much as 40 years later in some cases entire families still on social assistance for generations.
Richard Riel
@Jimmy Moore Better yet by including chimpanzees an gorillas they never mix and imagine people of different priorities is just the same path of divisive and infighting and it makes it easier for anybody with dirty money to control the masses.
Richard Riel
@Jimmy Moore For politicians a vote is a vote., no matter how they proceed. Government in Canada have no responsibility toward the system just as long as they get and keep a stronghold of taxes it is good enough for controlling the system and the cashflow to funnel upwards and out of the system, Why is our deficit increasing and no return on our taxes, ask yourself that question.
Richard Small
@Richard Riel Whenever I see reference to Trudeau's hair, selfies or socks, I know envy isn't far behind.
Richard Small
@Jimmy Moore Yours is a made-up statistic simply to bolster your opinion. And by far more Canadians are on social assistance than refugees, look it up.
Stanley Baird
@James Holden corruption in the end hurts everyone. Countries that tolerate corruption ultimately lose investments to country where there is rule of law. Canada has traditionally had an excellent reputation and you only need to look at poor state of Venezuelans to see the price folks pay when there is no respect for the constitution and corruption abounds. We should not be concerned about SNC's employees - they will have jobs at SNC or another firm. The damage to SNC has also largely been done - many companies and governments stopped doing business with them in 2015 when these charges were first announced. Best thing would to get on with the criminal prosecution.
Richard Sharp
@James Holden
That is no different than the Cons going to the USA and cheering for the US government over Canada in NAFTA negotiations. How totally absurd. What about innocent employees, pensioners, suppliers, shareholders?
vic thomas
@Richard Sharp Oh well thats life..innocent people get hurt all the time. How about all those innocent workers in the oil patch that got laid off..I didnt see Justin or anyone come to rescue them..or the Sears workers..and on and on. Why is SNC so special? Its because they have a very powerful lobby. Only 15 percent of their revenues are from government contracts..they wont go bankrupt if they are banned for 10 years. 9000 jobs will not be lost..maybe 1000 or so but thats life..many of these employees unfortunately are being paid with dirty money.
Greg Ustina
@James Holden,
Corporate behaviour improve, be serious. If you don’t pay bribes in Lybia, you don’t do business in Lybia. Welcome to the real world.
Greg Ustina
@vic thomas,
If there is nothing the gov. can do to save a job in fossil fuels, or Sears, if their time is done, so be it. But if their is something the gov. can do to save a job, why not ? It’s like you’re saying “ Since Mr. Tarsand died of cancer, we shouldn’t give Mr. SNC a measles vaccine “. Am I correct ?
James Holden
@Greg Ustina
How about just don't do business in Libya.
Richard Dunphy
This article is not about Liberal vs Conservative.
It's about the diversity of opinion in Quebec.
Like all Canadians, Quebecers want their elected governments to stop corporate coddling and start representing the people.
Jack Cracker
@Richard Dunphy In other words, do the job they were hired/elected to do.
Carson Brook
@Richard Dunphy you're right about it supposed to be about diversity of opinion in Quebec - but the insult is that it wasn't a representative poll - it was just a thin hook to hang a new headline on
Al Purves
Let's set aside Liberals vs Conservatives.
The Real Problem here is, Justin being the Leader and being Completely Unfit to Lead this Country!
Stanley Baird
@Al Purves and a clueless or willfully clueless PMO staff and clerk of the privy counsel. Justin should apologize and fire all of these people.
Garry Horsnell
Why do PM Trudeau and his Liberals want to support and help SNC Lavalin and give it special treatment?
Lucas Machias
@Garry Horsnell because they are friends of the Federal Liberal Party
Robin Mack
@Garry Horsnell .... New to the country Garry? Votes and campaign donations.
Floyd Robertson
@Lucas Machias
They donate to the CPC as well as the Liberals.
Gerard Rosen
@Garry Horsnell Why was Little Andy meeting with the ceo of SNC in May of 2018?
James Holden
@Garry Horsnell
It is probably due to pressure from the Quebec Government and the Caisse de Depot et placement du Quebec. They invest Quebec's pension funds and they have a 20% stake in SNC.
Carson Brook
@James Holden or maybe it's about sensible governance, good economic planning, and an excellent way to make white collar crime pay heavily without squashing workers, pensioners, contracers in the process... you know: a new way to do things better?
Richard Dekkar
@Garry Horsnell
Corruption when it comes to Quebec is part of the Liberals’ core values DNA. Go back to the findings of the Charbonneau Commission and AdScam to get a sordid refresher.
Guy Stone
@Garry Horsnell for votes to stay in power. Trudeau told Jody that
Greg Ustina
@Garry Horsnell,
If the gov. can save a job, why not ?And for the record a DPA for them would not be special treatment when compared to what the USA or UK do in similar circumstances. Other countries do not go out of their way to stop their companies from getting foreign contracts, even in situations where bribes are the norm. How else would a Canadian company get a contract in Lybia. I mean if we are going to sell jeeps to Saudi Arabia anyways, why the fuss here ?
Rachael Saunders
Quebecers like most Canadians want the government to make Canadian citizens their first and utmost priority. Canadians are not being treated this way by our current Liberals government, which caters to everyone except the people who built Canada. This will be reflected by Quebecers and all Canadians in the 2019 Federal Election.
James Holden
@Rachael Saunders
So you're accusing the Liberals of being Conservatives.
Joseph Lukasik
@James Holden oh look a liberal sheep making the usual nonsense bs post based on talking points over any facts, get lost loser this is about Liberals PERiOD
Richard Riel
@James Holden No accusing conservatives being liberals contradiction or what, either way they both love this system.
Carson Brook
@Rachael Saunders
oh please - - how many 'quebecers' do you think CBC actually contacted.... and note: not so many 'Canadians' [being other people] are stirred up by the SNC story even with the heapings of daily headlines and non-stop TV coverage of tablold.
Question - interesting, eh - that the real elephant in the room is not touched by antyone - the tabloid wild media or the ramped up attack Scheer party: that the catalyst for all JWR attack is that when a shuffle was necessary - she was offended to be offered, as one of the leaders of indigenous affairs in Canada...she was offended to be offered position of MInister of Indigenous Services - so she could serve to make all the promised changed there..... She was offended... and then she got bitter mad. And she rejected the job. She refused. She wouldn't step up at that time for the Cabinet, for her people, or for the country. She'd fought all her life against the 'Indian Act and she was - astonishingly - darn well not going to step into making real change to change it. It's btw, part of the record. But it isn't part of the news. Covering this part of the JWR truth would throw a whole monkey wrench into the runaway smear tabloid news which is doing so much for media ratings if not as much as hoped for for Scheer and Singh.
You ok with this? YOu don't want better information from the publicly funded public broadcaster?
Marcel Ethier
@Rachael Saunders but if liberals lose the election it will be because of Russian collusion with sheer or sing or song or whatever
Richard Sharp
@Rachael Saunders
How so?itbis EXACTLY the innocent employees and pensioners of SNC Lavalin, and their suppliers and shareholders all across Canada, who the Libs are seeking to protect. The bad guys from 10-20 years ago can still be charged criminally.
vic thomas
@Richard Sharp A lot of innocent people lose their jobs all the time..thats life and why is SNC so special? There are other engineering companies in Canada that actually play by the rules..guess what..they might hire some ex-SNC employees IF any of them lose their job. Shareholders..the stock market is always a gamble..some stocks go to zero and thats the way it goes.
Greg Ustina
@vic thomas,
If you can save a job, why not ? And these firms that play by the rules don’t get contracts in Lybia. Am I correct ?
Robin Mack
Throughout this entire affair, no one has presented any evidence that jobs were at stake. SNC is thought to have about $30 billion worth of work on it's books. SNC might have been the trigger but the whole brouhaha has been about nothing more than Liberal votes and campaign donations. The one thing that has become abundantly clear is that the country needs a federal leader overhaul.
Floyd Robertson
@Robin Mack
There's no evidence of that.
Gerard Rosen
@Robin Mack You think SNC will stay in Canada if they can't bid on contracts for 10 years? Then there goes your 8762 jobs. That was easy.
Carson Brook
@Robin Mack Through this whole affair, no one has presented any evidence of any wrongdoing of any kind by PM or any staff. No evidence at all - but you couldn't count the runaway words of smear and slander - that's all we've got left in Canada... SUN and FOX news light - which might be ok - if for fact that we have nothing better... we have nothing in Canada like old school CBC used to be - like BBC,PBS, DW, New York Times, Washington Post, the Guardian........ all we have is this.......... we pay for better... we deserve better.
Jenna Collins
@Carson Brook No evidence of wrongdoing???? So attempts to interfere in justice is not wrongdoing? Good grief, open your eyes.
Jack Cracker
The only people that are saying it will cost jobs are the politicians trying to justify being caught giving preferential help to their biggest party contributors. Canada's 2 tiered judicial system at it's finest. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Carson Brook
@Jack ******* nothing here but people still posting faker comments unlinked to any thing but smear...still getting the green to go
Carson Brook
@Carson Brook hey here's hilarious eh?!!! Reply to Jack's comment and get the string of asterisks because the commenter's name is inappropriate but the commenter gets to post....... finger on the spot of CBC managing news
Richard Dekkar
If SNC didn’t want the heat, all it had to do was not use bribery as a business tool (McGill University Medical Centre, Jacques Cartier Bridge, Libya, Bangladesh, etc).
If shareholders and the Caisse were worried about pensions and their investments, then don’t sink money into a company with a decades long history of corruption.
One law for Canada: Prosecute!
Steve Fortier
@Richard Dekkar The corruption world is changing. One guy seems not understanding that as its good for elections.
Mark Sobkow
Of course the decent people in Quebec want SNC-Lavalin to stand trial. Decent people right across this country want them to.
The problem is the POLITICIANS who are more concerned about votes than the law. :(
Neil Gregory
@Mark Sobkow
Well, the problem with the politicians is easily solved, isn't it? When a politician has shown that he or she has violated the law, or the ethical standards that Canadians can expect, then that one should not vote for that politician. The real problem is that we have far too many political partisans whose mottoes seems to be, "I must support my party whether it is right or wrong," and "my party may not be perfect, but the other guys are much worse."
Why many Quebecers want SNC-Lavalin to stand trial — despite warnings about jobs
Support for a deferred prosecution agreement is strong in Quebec, but far from unanimous
Simon Nakonechny· CBC News·
Diane Bérubé of Drummondville, Que., thinks it would be good for SNC-Lavalin to go on trial. (Simon Nakonechny/CBC)
With its strip malls, single-family homes and Tim Hortons drive-thrus, the northwest suburbs of Quebec City are a far cry from the boardroom of SNC-Lavalin in downtown Montreal.
The fate of the embattled engineering firm is also far from the minds of most people loading groceries into their cars at the aptly named Espace le Fleuron, a shopping centre in the Les Rivières borough.
"It's a shame for the employees who work there, who are honest," said Claire Lajeunesse, "but we've been hearing about SNC-Lavalin for so long already."
The word "fleuron," translated as "ornamental flower," is used in Quebec to describe homegrown companies that have risen to international prominence.
When it comes to SNC-Lavalin, the flower has wilted in the eyes of many. The company is at the centre of a political scandal that has engulfed the Prime Minister's Office.
Former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould says Justin Trudeau and his aides used inappropriate pressure to try to persuade her to strike a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) with SNC-Lavalin. The agreement would have the firm pay a fine instead of facing a criminal trial on federal fraud and bribery charges.
A conviction could bar SNC-Lavalin from bidding on federal contracts for a decade and, according to the prime minister, put almost 9,000 Canadian jobs at risk.
Lajeunesse says that would be unfortunate, but if it comes down to deciding between justice and jobs, she falls on the side of justice.
'Quebec is not a brick'
It's a sentiment Conservative MP Gérard Deltell says he's been hearing more and more from constituents in his riding of Louis-Saint-Laurent, which encompasses Espace le Fleuron.
"If you look at the newspaper people, most of them are on the side of SNC-Lavalin, but that's not the reality on the ground," Deltell said, referring to what he sees as a disconnect between voters and the province's columnists.
"We're talking about a business that has a long history of corruption," he said, pointing to SNC-Lavalin's involvement in the McGill University Health Centre superhospital scandal.
'This is not a Quebec issue, this is a criminal issue,' says Conservative MP Gérard Deltell, who points out that SNC-Lavalin employs more people in the rest of Canada than in Quebec. (Simon Nakonechny/CBC)
Deltell points to a recent poll, conducted by Nanos for the Globe and Mail, that suggests 41 per cent of Quebecers want to see SNC-Lavalin have "a real trial."
"When people are saying, 'Quebec thinks that,' it's not true," he said, arguing that Quebecers' views vary greatly on the issue. "Quebec is not a brick."
The Conservative MP also takes issue with those in Quebec who think the so-called "rest of Canada" is using the scandal to beat up on the province.
"This is not Quebec bashing," Deltell said. "This is the law we want to be respected."
Part of the reason Deltell can take such a strong tone against one of Quebec's most powerful companies may hinge on his comfortable position within his own riding.
In the 2015 federal election, he won more votes than all other candidates combined.
But it may also reflect the disparity in views between Montreal and the rest of the province regarding the fate of SNC-Lavalin.
A Mainstreet poll, conducted before Wilson-Raybould's testimony at the Commons justice committee, suggested Quebecers' opinion of the corporation varied by region, with support for a trial significantly higher in Quebec City than in Montreal.
Skepticism in Quebec City suburbs
Jules Bourgeois has lived in Lévis, the city that lies across the St. Lawrence River south of Quebec City, for the past 40 years.
He says the company should be held to the same standards as the average citizen.
The retired autoworker says the issue has been a topic of conversation at the local McDonald's. "I think it's about time we put justice in the front end," he said.
All but two ridings in the Quebec City region are held by the Conservatives, including Louis-Saint-Laurent. (Simon Nakonechny/CBC)
Marcel Lacasse, a KIA dealer in Lévis, says he's skeptical about potential job losses should SNC-Lavalin be found guilty and barred from bidding on federal contracts.
The province is already dealing with an acute labour shortage, with a historically low unemployment rate in 2018.
"In a situation of full employment, I wonder how relevant that argument is," he said, noting that many of the workers are highly skilled engineers. "Everyone's looking for good employees."
Lacasse says he wouldn't have been opposed to the idea of a deferred prosecution agreement for SNC-Lavalin had it been handled differently.
Liberal MP says constituents 'very open' to DPA
Across the river in the riding of Louis-Hébert, Liberal MP Joël Lightbound admits the issue of deferred prosecution could have been better explained to the public, but says, on substance, his constituents back the prime minister's actions and are open to remediation rather than prosecution.
"The questions I've been getting are, 'Why isn't this used?'" he said, referring to a DPA.
The Quebec CIty MP also questioned whether Wilson-Raybould took enough time to consider an alternative to a criminal trial.
Lightbound's riding runs alongside portions of Deltell's, but he says he hasn't seen an appetite for throwing the book at SNC-Lavalin, even if voters believe the company may have done wrong.
"What comes up a lot is, 'Why should all the employees have to pay for the wrongdoings of the few?'" he said.
Lightbound also cautions those who think job losses could be easily absorbed by a hot economy, pointing to the potential for impact on investments and retiree pensions.
"It's not as simple as that," he said.
Justice over jobs
Driving into Drummondville, a mid-sized city on the road between Quebec City and Montreal, factories line the highway, some sporting "Nous Embauchons," ("We're Hiring") banners.
"It's always possible to find another job," Diane Bérubé said of potential job losses at SNC-Lavalin should the company be prosecuted and convicted.
The retired mother of two says jobs should be protected, but not at any cost.
"Sometimes you're better to lose your job and walk upright than to keep your job and live with remorse," she said.
Dorian Michaud, 62, of Drummondville says justice should take priority over shielding SNC-Lavalin from the potential financial fallout of criminal prosecution. (Simon Nakonechny/CBC)
Bérubé says she's always been a loyal supporter of the sovereigntist Parti Québécois, but last fall decided to vote CAQ for the first time.
Federally, she's leaning Conservative but draws a blank when searching for the name of the party's leader, Andrew Scheer.
Across the street in front of the Saint-Frédéric church, which recently was named a basilica, Dorian Michaud, 62, chips away at a thick sheet of ice coating the steps.
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Jody Wilson-Raybould, former Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, seen in the foyer of the House of Commons, in Parliament in Ottawa on June 20, 2018. File photo by Alex Tétreault
Former justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould angered senators by refusing to give testimony on a change to the Criminal Code that is now at the centre of allegations that she was improperly pressured to help SNC-Lavalin avoid criminal prosecution.
The Criminal Code amendment was stuffed into an omnibus budget implementation bill last year and got little scrutiny from MPs on the House of Commons finance committee.
But when it got to the Senate, the upper chamber's legal and constitutional affairs committee was tasked with scrutinizing the provision, which allows prosecutors to negotiate remediation agreements, a kind of plea bargain, in cases of corporate corruption.
The committee held extensive hearings last May and heard from an array of expert witnesses, including Justice Department officials, who suggested that some questions were best put to the minister of justice. The committee invited Wilson-Raybould but she did not show up. In her stead, the government sent her parliamentary secretary, Liberal MP Marco Mendicino, and Public Services Minister Carla Qualtrough.
"It's very unusual to study a bill, especially in the criminal domain, and to not have the minister responsible appear before the committee," Conservative Sen. Pierre-Hugues Boisvenu observed at the time. "I would like to know why the minister of justice is not here herself."
Qualtrough said it was her "understanding" that Wilson-Raybould "wasn't available." Qualtrough, who is responsible for the government's broader corporate-integrity agenda, acknowledged that she was "not technically, obviously, representing Justice," but nevertheless "felt myself capable to offer you some perspectives on our government's position on these matters."
Senators on the committee were sufficiently miffed by Wilson-Raybould's no-show to make an "observation" about it in their final report: "The committee notes it did not have the opportunity to hear the testimony of the minister of justice on the proposed amendments that are under her ministerial mandate, although she was invited to appear."
Independent Liberal Sen. Serge Joyal, the chair of the committee, said in an interview that he actually spoke to the government's representative in the Senate, Peter Harder, to see if he could persuade Wilson-Raybould to appear at the committee — to no avail.
"The members were rather frustrated by that," he said.
Joyal said the recent controversy over Wilson-Raybould's role in the SNC-Lavalin case puts her refusal to testify in a different perspective.
"Now, of course, in retrospect ... I can understand that she might not have been at ease with the overall issue of remediation agreements and didn't want to submit herself to questions in relation to that."
Wilson-Raybould, who was demoted to the veterans-affairs post in January, resigned altogether from cabinet on Tuesday. That followed an anonymously-sourced newspaper article that alleged she was improperly pressured by the Prime Minister's Office last fall to instruct the director of public prosecutions to negotiate a remediation agreement with SNC-Lavalin rather than pursue a criminal prosecution that could cripple the company.
The Montreal engineering giant has been charged with corruption and bribery in relation to government contracts in Libya; if found guilty it would be barred from bidding on government contracts in Canada for 10 years.
She has thus far refused to comment on the allegation, citing solicitor-client privilege. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has denied there was any undue pressure and insists he specifically told Wilson-Raybould the decision whether to prosecute was hers alone as attorney general.
The budget bill was not the only time Wilson-Raybould snubbed the Senate's legal and constitutional affairs committee. Throughout last fall, the committee tried repeatedly to get her to testify on the government's access-to-information reforms — specifically on a provision that would require judges to publicly disclose their expenses, which some senators fear could undermine judicial independence. Joyal said Wilson-Raybould "systematically" refused repeated invitations to testify, even though the committee offered to be flexible on the timing to accommodate the minister's schedule. The only response it received was that the minister was unavailable, he said.
"We're having a great deal of difficulty scheduling the minister's appearance before our committee," Boisvenu remarked during an Oct. 3 committee meeting. "It's a habit of hers."
Unlike the budget bill, on which the committee was under pressure to report by a specific deadline, Joyal said he warned Harder that in the case of the access-to-information bill, the committee would sit on the legislation until it heard from Wilson-Raybould. "No minister, no bill."
Indeed, he said the committee was on the point of passing a motion to that effect when Wilson-Raybould was shuffled out of the justice portfolio in January. Within two weeks, he said, her successor David Lametti agreed to testify. He is now scheduled to appear on Thursday.
Wilson-Raybould has appeared before the Senate on other bills, notably those on medical assistance in dying and legalization of cannabis. But her selective approach to which bills she chose to defend publicly raises potential questions about cabinet solidarity.
Joyal, who served as a minister in the cabinets of Pierre Trudeau and John Turner, said disagreements are common around the cabinet table. But once a consensus decision is made, every minister is required to stand by it, whether or not he or she personally agrees with it.
In the case of a minister who personally disagrees with a bill that falls under his or her responsibility, Joyal said: "If the decision of the government is to proceed with the bill, you have no choice than to stand by the bill. And if you don't want to stand by the bill, well, the option is to resign from the portfolio. It's quite clear."
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Thank you for your various correspondence about abusive tax schemes, and for your understanding regarding the delay of this response.
This is an opportunity for me to address your concerns about the way the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) deals with aggressive tax planning, tax avoidance, and tax evasion by targeting individuals and groups that promote schemes intended to avoid payment of tax. It is also an opportunity for me to present the Government of Canada’s main strategies for ensuring fairness for all taxpayers.
The CRA’s mission is to preserve the integrity of Canada’s tax system, and it is taking concrete and effective action to deal with abusive tax schemes. Through federal budget funding in 2016 and 2017, the government has committed close to $1 billion in cracking down on tax evasion and combatting tax avoidance at home and through the use of offshore transactions. This additional funding is expected to generate federal revenues of $2.6 billion over five years for Budget 2016, and $2.5 billion over five years for Budget 2017.
More precisely, the CRA is cracking down on tax cheats by hiring more auditors, maintaining its underground economy specialist teams, increasing coverage of aggressive goods and service tax/harmonized sales tax planning, increasing coverage of multinational corporations and wealthy individuals, and taking targeted actions aimed at promoters of abusive tax schemes.
On the offshore front, the CRA continues to develop tools to improve its focus on high‑risk taxpayers. It is also considering changes to its Voluntary Disclosures Program following the first set of program recommendations received from an independent Offshore Compliance Advisory Committee. In addition, the CRA is leading international projects to address the base erosion and profit shifting initiative of the G20 and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, and is collaborating with treaty partners to address the Panama Papers leaks.
These actions are evidence of the government’s commitment to protecting tax fairness. The CRA has strengthened its intelligence and technical capacities for the early detection of abusive tax arrangements and deterrence of those who participate in them. To ensure compliance, it has increased the number of actions aimed at promoters who use illegal schemes. These measures include increased audits of such promoters, improved information gathering, criminal investigations where warranted, and better communication with taxpayers.
To deter potential taxpayer involvement in these schemes, the CRA is increasing notifications and warnings through its communications products. It also seeks partnerships with tax preparers, accountants, and community groups so that they can become informed observers who can educate their clients.
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Between April 1, 2011, and March 31, 2016, the CRA’s criminal investigations resulted in the conviction of 42 Canadian taxpayers for tax evasion with links to money and assets held offshore. In total, the $34 million in evaded taxes resulted in court fines of $12 million and 734 months of jail time.
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More specifically, in relation to the KPMG Isle of Man tax avoidance scheme, publicly available court records show that it is through the CRA’s efforts that the scheme was discovered. The CRA identified many of the participants and continues to actively pursue the matter. The CRA has also identified at least 10 additional tax structures on the Isle of Man, and is auditing taxpayers in relation to these structures.
To ensure tax fairness, the CRA commissioned an independent review in March 2016 to determine if it had acted appropriately concerning KPMG and its clients. In her review, Ms. Kimberley Brooks, Associate Professor and former Dean of the Schulich School of Law at Dalhousie University, examined the CRA’s operational processes and decisions in relation to the KPMG offshore tax structure and its efforts to obtain the names of all taxpayers participating in the scheme. Following this review, the report, released on May 5, 2016, concluded that the CRA had acted appropriately in its management of the KPMG Isle of Man file. The report found that the series of compliance measures the CRA took were in accordance with its policies and procedures. It was concluded that the procedural actions taken on the KPMG file were appropriate given the facts of this particular case and were consistent with the treatment of taxpayers in similar situations. The report concluded that actions by CRA employees were in accordance with the CRA’s Code of Integrity and Professional Conduct. There was no evidence of inappropriate interaction between KPMG and the CRA employees involved in the case.
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All forms of tax evasion are illegal. The CRA manages the Informant Leads Program, which handles leads received from the public regarding cases of tax evasion across the country. This program, which coordinates all the leads the CRA receives from informants, determines whether there has been any non-compliance with tax law and ensures that the information is examined and conveyed, if applicable, so that compliance measures are taken. This program does not offer any reward for tips received.
The new Offshore Tax Informant Program (OTIP) has also been put in place. The OTIP offers financial compensation to individuals who provide information related to major cases of offshore tax evasion that lead to the collection of tax owing. As of December 31, 2016, the OTIP had received 963 calls and 407 written submissions from possible informants. Over 218 taxpayers are currently under audit based on information the CRA received through the OTIP.
With a focus on the highest-risk sectors nationally and internationally and an increased ability to gather information, the CRA has the means to target taxpayers who try to hide their income. For example, since January 2015, the CRA has been collecting information on all international electronic funds transfers (EFTs) of $10,000 or more ending or originating in Canada. It is also adopting a proactive approach by focusing each year on four jurisdictions that raise suspicion. For the Isle of Man, the CRA audited 3,000 EFTs totalling $860 million over 12 months and involving approximately 800 taxpayers. Based on these audits, the CRA communicated with approximately 350 individuals and 400 corporations and performed 60 audits.
In January 2017, I reaffirmed Canada’s important role as a leader for tax authorities around the world in detecting the structures used for aggressive tax planning and tax evasion. This is why Canada works daily with the Joint International Tax Shelter Information Centre (JITSIC), a network of tax administrations in over 35 countries. The CRA participates in two expert groups within the JITSIC and leads the working group on intermediaries and proponents. This ongoing collaboration is a key component of the CRA’s work to develop strong relationships with the international community, which will help it refine the world-class tax system that benefits all Canadians.
The CRA is increasing its efforts and is seeing early signs of success. Last year, the CRA recovered just under $13 billion as a result of its audit activities on the domestic and offshore fronts. Two-thirds of these recoveries are the result of its audit efforts relating to large businesses and multinational companies.
But there is still much to do, and additional improvements and investments are underway.
Tax cheats are having a harder and harder time hiding. Taxpayers who choose to promote or participate in malicious and illegal tax strategies must face the consequences of their actions. Canadians expect nothing less. I invite you to read my most recent statement on this matter at canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/news/2017/03/ statement_from_thehonourabledianelebouthillierministerofnational.
Thank you for taking the time to write. I hope the information I have provided is helpful.
Sincerely,
The Honourable Diane Lebouthillier Minister of National Revenue
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"Litigation Lmbo" with Trump and his buddies in the WTO
So many of my fellow Canadians were enjoying the circus in the CBC comment section I did not bother to try to add my 2 bits worth. Instead I picked up the phone and reminded a lot of evil Yankee lawyers that I was still alive and paying attention as to how truly stupid they are. Then I sent a few emails too. Only one lawyer answered me in an ethical and timely fashion. Go Figure who it was.
On 7/16/18, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote: > It tried to be fair with Mr. Lighthizer but as i told his help > "Trevor" whereas his boss was a partner of Skadden, Arps, Slate, > Meagher & Flom LLP (Skadden) and buddy Stephen Vaughn worked there as > well they certainly should have known who I am for many years. The kid > Janowitz is a dark horse o me because he never even got out of law > scholl untill 2006. When asked to speak to a lawyer and was directed > to some young lady named Amy who would do nothing. So I went about > trying to figure out which lawyers to contact and decided to email > several because as we all know bureaucratic lawyers come and go the > politcal tide. > > https://ustr.gov/about-us/biographies-key-officials/general-counsel-stephen-p-vaughn > > Brian Samuel Janovitz > Bar Number: 32909 > 1301 M St NW Apt 122 > Washington, DC 20005-4205 > United States > Office: 202-395-3150 > Fax: 202-395-3639 > Email: bjanovitz@ustr.eop.gov > > https://www.lexsage.com/about-cyndee-todgham-cherniak > > Cyndee Todgham Cherniak > Phone: 647-290-4249 > Email: cyndee@lexsage.com > > Need I say I found this interesting as well? > > https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/intellectual_property_law/advocacy/Letter_NAFTA_renegotiations.authcheckdam.pdf > > https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/us-tariffs-wto-1.4748459 > > U.S. launches tariff challenge at WTO against Canada, Mexico, Turkey, > China and EU > American trade rep says original tariffs were justified, but > retaliatory tariffs are not > Pete Evans · CBC News · Posted: Jul 16, 2018 10:42 AM ET | Last > Updated: 2 hours ago > Trade representative Robert Lighthizer calls retaliatory tariffs > against the United States unfair. (Aaron P. Bernstein/Reuters) > > The United States has launched five separate complaints at the World > Trade Organization against Canada, China, the European Union, Mexico > and Turkey in response to retaliatory tariffs those countries and > groups have launched against the United States. > > U.S. trade representative Robert Lighthizer said in a statement Monday > that recent tariffs implemented by the U.S. on foreign steel and > aluminum are "justified under international agreements," but > retaliatory measures from other countries in response are not. > > Canada launches trade dispute with U.S. through World Trade > Organization > > Former NAFTA negotiator calls Trump's 'bluster' on trade deals > offensive > > "Instead of working with us to address a common problem, some of our > trading partners have elected to respond with retaliatory tariffs > designed to punish American workers, farmers and companies," > Lighthizer said. > > The United States earlier this year put a tariff of 10 per cent on > imported aluminum, and 25 per cent on steel, in addition to other > targeted measures on foreign-made goods. Other nations hit by those > tariffs have launched counter-measures of their own, which so far > target $24 billion US worth of American-made goods, but are soon set > to increase exponentially. > > Last week, the U.S. proposed a new round of tariffs on $200 billion US > worth of Chinese goods, and China is disputing those tariffs in a WTO > complaint of its own, also announced Monday. > > Trump says he wants a bilateral trade deal with Japan over TPP > > The WTO is an international body that adjudicates trade disagreements > between member nations. Member nations usually adhere to any rulings > the WTO finds, but the process can be so slow and cumbersome that many > disputes ended up being remedied elsewhere at some point anyway. > > Cyndee Cherniak, an international trade lawyer at LexSage in Toronto, > says it's interesting that the U.S. is choosing to go the WTO route in > this case, since the country has been dragging its foot on updates > that would enhance the agency's power to mediate trade squabbles. > > Trump revs up Harley-Davidson fight into second day > > The U.S. has stopped appointing people to the appellate body of the > WTO that would allow it to handle more cases, more quickly, she said. > > "The U.S. is making it impossible for there to be a final decision on > the five cases they just brought." > > The reason for that, she suggested, is a more sinister motive at play. > > "Without a functioning court, they can do whatever they want, because > there's no one there to tell them they can't do it." > > "We are caught in a litigation limbo," said Cherniak. > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 11:04:21 -0400 > Subject: Fwd: I bet Rotten Ralphy Goodale and Caroline Mulroney know why I > will contact Doug Ford's Attorney General as soon as I know who it is N'esy > Pas? > To: marc.maillet@rcmp-grc.gc.ca > Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kevin Leahy <kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca> > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 07:37:19 -0400 > Subject: Re: Fwd: I bet Rotten Ralphy Goodale and Caroline Mulroney know why > I > will contact Doug Ford's Attorney General as soon as I know who it is N'esy > Pas? > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> > > Please be advised that I will be on leave from June 29th to July 16th. > I will not be monitoring my emails, or available by phone, during my > absence. S/Sgt Marc Maillet ( Marc.Maillet@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ) will be > the acting EMRO during my absence, he can be reached on Groupwise. > Feel free to resend your email after the 16th of July at which time I > will be happy to respond. Should an urgency require you to get in > touch with me during this period S/Sgt Maillet will be happy to relay > a message. Enjoy the start of summer! > > Veuillez noter que je serai en congé du 29 juin au 14 juillet compris. > Je ne surveillerai pas mes courriels et je ne serai pas disponible par > téléphone pendant mon absence. Le s.é.-m. Marc Maillet > (marc.maillet@rcmp-grc.gc.ca) sera l’OREE intérimaire pendant mon > absence. N’hésitez pas à me renvoyer votre courriel après le 16 > juillet et je serai heureux de vous répondre à mon retour. Au cas > d’urgence, le s.é.-m. Maillet sera dans la capacité de me transmettre > un message. Profitez bien du début de l’été! > > > Kevin F. Leahy B.B.A. > Superintendent/Surintendant > HQ Divison DG > Employee Management Relations Officer/Officier responsable des > Relations employeur-employés > 613-843-4725 > > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: "Fitch, Leanne"<leanne.fitch@fredericton.ca> > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 11:50:50 +0000 > Subject: Automatic reply: Somebody say Hey to the former Attorney General > Greggy Baby Byrne for me will ya He don't call he dn't write since he, your > pal > Woodside and YOU made the big Faux Pas in 2004 N'esy Pas Chucky Leblanc > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> > > Annual leave/Vacances annuelle June/juin 27-July/juillet 9, 2018 > > > Due to a very high volume of incoming email to this account there is > an unusual backlog of pending responses. Your message may not be > responded to in a timely fashion. If you require a formal response > please send your query in writing to my attention c/o Fredericton > Police Force, 311 Queen St, Fredericton, NB E3B 1B1 or phone (506) > 460-2300. If this is an emergency related to public safety please call > 911. > > En raison du grand nombre de courriels que reçoit cette messagerie, il > se peut qu’une réponse tarde un peu à venir. Si vous avez besoin d'une > réponse officielle, veuillez envoyer votre demande par écrit à mon > attention aux soins (a/s) de la Force policière de Fredericton 311, > rue Queen, Fredericton, NB E3B 1B1, ou composer le 506 460-2300. > S'il s'agit d'une urgence de sécurité publique, faites le 911. > > > This e-mail communication (including any or all attachments) is > intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is > addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire du courriel, il est > interdit d'utiliser, de revoir, de retransmettre, de distribuer, de > disséminer, de copier ou d'imprimer ce courriel, d'agir en vous y > fiant ou de vous en servir de toute autre façon. Si vous avez reçu le > présent courriel par erreur, prière de communiquer avec l'expéditeur > et d'éliminer l'original du courriel, ainsi que toute copie > électronique ou imprimée de celui-ci, immédiatement. Nous sommes > reconnaissants de votre collaboration. > > Toute correspondance entre ou avec les employés ou les élus de la > Ville de Fredericton pourrait être divulguée conformément aux > dispositions de la Loi sur le droit à l’information et la protection > de la vie privée. > > GOV-OP-073 > > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario > <Premier@ontario.ca> > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 11:25:48 +0000 > Subject: Automatic reply: I bet Rotten Ralphy Goodale and Caroline Mulroney > know why I will contact Doug Ford's Attorney General as soon as I know who > it is N'esy Pas? > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> > > Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly > valued. > > You can be assured that all emails and letters are carefully read, > reviewed and taken into consideration. > > There may be occasions when, given the issues you have raised and the > need to address them effectively, we will forward a copy of your > correspondence to the appropriate government official. Accordingly, a > response may take several business days. > > Thanks again for your email. > ______ > > Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de > nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations. > > Nous tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en > considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons. > > Dans certains cas, nous transmettrons votre message au ministère > responsable afin que les questions soulevées puissent être traitées de > la manière la plus efficace possible. En conséquence, plusieurs jours > ouvrables pourraient s’écouler avant que nous puissions vous répondre. > > Merci encore pour votre courriel. > > > > > ---------- Original message ---------- > From: Caroline Mulroney <caroline@carolinemulroney.ca> > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 04:25:48 -0700 > Subject: Thank you for your message! Re: I bet Rotten Ralphy Goodale and > Caroline Mulroney know why I will contact Doug Ford's Attorney General as > soon as I know who it is N'esy Pas? > To: motomaniac333@gmail.com > > Thank you for your email. A member of our team will get back to you as > soon as possible. > > Warm regards, > > Team Caroline > > > -- > > Caroline Mulroney Campaign > 905-960-1457 > www.CarolineMulroney.ca > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/carolinemulroneyPC/ > Twitter: https://twitter.com/C_Mulroney > > > > http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html > > Sunday, 19 November 2017 > > Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes > It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before > The Supreme Court > > https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do > > > Federal Court of Appeal Decisions > > Amos v. Canada > Court (s) Database > > Federal Court of Appeal Decisions > Date > > 2017-10-30 > Neutral citation > > 2017 FCA 213 > File numbers > > A-48-16 > Date: 20171030 > > Docket: A-48-16 > Citation: 2017 FCA 213 > CORAM: > > WEBB J.A. > NEAR J.A. > GLEASON J.A. > > > BETWEEN: > > DAVID RAYMOND AMOS > Respondent on the cross-appeal > (and formally Appellant) > > and > > HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN > Appellant on the cross-appeal > (and formerly Respondent) > Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017. > Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017. > REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY: > > THE COURT > > Date: 20171030 > > Docket: A-48-16 > Citation: 2017 FCA 213 > CORAM: > > WEBB J.A. > NEAR J.A. > GLEASON J.A. > > > BETWEEN: > DAVID RAYMOND AMOS > Respondent on the cross-appeal > (and formally Appellant) > and > HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN > Appellant on the cross-appeal > (and formerly Respondent) > REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT > > I. Introduction > > [1] On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos) > filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court > against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million > in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial > Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary > properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety > that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian > Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan > (Claim at para. 96). > > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400 >> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C., >> To: coi@gnb.ca >> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com >> >> Good Day Sir >> >> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed >> to speak to one of your staff for the first time >> >> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who >> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt >> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker >> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document. >> >> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I >> suggested that you study closely. >> >> This is the docket in Federal Court >> >> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T >> >> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings >> >> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug >> >> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015 >> >> April 3rd, 2017 >> >> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing >> >> >> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal >> >> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All >> >> >> The only hearing thus far >> >> May 24th, 2017 >> >> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown >> >> >> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity >> >> Date: 20151223 >> >> Docket: T-1557-15 >> >> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015 >> >> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell >> >> BETWEEN: >> >> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS >> >> Plaintiff >> >> and >> >> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN >> >> Defendant >> >> ORDER >> >> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on >> December 14, 2015) >> >> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to >> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November >> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim >> in its entirety. >> >> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a >> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then >> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian >> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg, >> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter >> he stated: >> >> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the >> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you. >> You are your brother’s keeper. >> >> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former >> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to >> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of >> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses >> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to >> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime >> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former >> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of >> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore; >> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former >> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff >> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court >> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired >> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted >> Police. >> >> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my >> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many >> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am >> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I >> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in >> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al, >> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding >> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has >> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so. >> >> >> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of >> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There >> is no order as to costs. >> >> “B. Richard Bell” >> Judge >> >> >> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment >> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent >> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006. >> >> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court >> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the >> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my >> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada? >> >> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the >> most >> >> >> ---------- Original message ---------- >> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca >> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM >> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in >> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to >> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you >> dudes are way past too late >> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com >> >> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à >> lalanthier@hotmail.com >> >> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à >> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca >> >> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at >> lalanthier@hotmail.com >> >> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to >> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca >> >> Thank you, >> >> Merci , >> >> >> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html >> >> >> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war >> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to >> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over >> five years after he began his bragging: >> >> January 13, 2015 >> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate >> >> December 8, 2014 >> Why Canada Stood Tall! >> >> Friday, October 3, 2014 >> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And >> Stupid Justin Trudeau >> >> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide >> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts. >> >> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien >> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign >> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to >> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were >> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were >> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth >> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for >> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute” >> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind. >> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not >> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a >> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to >> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was >> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But >> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s >> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s >> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic, >> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle >> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway >> campaign of 2006. >> >> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then >> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the >> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent, >> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament. >> >> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling >> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of >> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners >> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a >> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make. >> >> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have >> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war. >> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by >> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is >> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of >> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government >> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this >> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a >> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East. >> >> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror >> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state” >> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control, >> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The >> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and >> >> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of >> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have >> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical. >> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me. >> >> Subject: >> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400 >> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca >> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com >> >> January 30, 2007 >> >> WITHOUT PREJUDICE >> >> Mr. David Amos >> >> Dear Mr. Amos: >> >> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29, >> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP. >> >> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have >> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve >> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Honourable Michael B. Murphy >> Minister of Health >> >> CM/cb >> >> >> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote: >> >> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500 >> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca, >> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net, >> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com >> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca, >> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, >> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has >> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not >> >> Dear Mr. Amos, >> >> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off >> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I >> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns. >> >> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position >> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process >> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the >> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these >> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this >> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done. >> >> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false >> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear >> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada >> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment >> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB. >> >> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on >> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Warren McBeath, Cpl. >> GRC Caledonia RCMP >> Traffic Services NCO >> Ph: (506) 387-2222 >> Fax: (506) 387-4622 >> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >> >> >> >> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C., >> Office of the Integrity Commissioner >> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street >> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1 >> tel.: 506-457-7890 >> fax: 506-444-5224 >> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >> Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM >> Subject: RE My complaint against the CROWN in Federal Court Attn David >> Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to submit a motion for a >> publication ban on my complaint trust that you dudes are way past too >> late >> To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca >> peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.com, mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com, >> david.akin@sunmedia.ca, robert.frater@justice.gc.ca, >> paul.riley@ppsc-sppc.gc.ca, >> greg@gregdelbigio.com, joyce.dewitt-vanoosten@gov.bc.ca, >> joan.barrett@ontario.ca, jean-vincent.lacroix@gouv.qc.ca, >> peter.rogers@mcinnescooper.com, mfeder@mccarthy.ca, mjamal@osler.com >> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, gopublic@cbc.ca, >> Whistleblower@ctv.ca >> >> https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/14439/index.do >> >> http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/WebDocuments-DocumentsWeb/35072/FM030_Respondent_Attorney-General-of-Canada-on-Behalf-of-the-United-States-of-America.pdf >> >> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html >> >> I repeat what the Hell do I do with the Yankee wiretapes taps sell >> them on Ebay or listen to them and argue them with you dudes in >> Feferal Court? >> >> Petey Baby loses all parliamentary privelges in less than a month but >> he still supposed to be an ethical officer of the Court CORRECT? >> >> Veritas Vincit >> David Raymond Amos >> 902 800 0369 >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400 >> Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in >> the USDOJ for me will ya? >> To: RBauer@perkinscoie.com, sshimshak@paulweiss.com, >> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith@svlaw.com, bginsberg@pattonboggs.com, >> gregory.craig@skadden.com, pm@pm.gc.ca, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, >> bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net, MulcaT@parl.gc.ca, leader@greenparty.ca >> Cc: alevine@cooley.com, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, >> michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com >> >> QSLS Politics >> By Location Visit Detail >> Visit 29,419 >> Domain Name usdoj.gov ? (U.S. Government) >> IP Address 149.101.1.# (US Dept of Justice) >> ISP US Dept of Justice >> Location Continent : North America >> Country : United States (Facts) >> State : District of Columbia >> City : Washington >> Lat/Long : 38.9097, -77.0231 (Map) >> Language English (U.S.) en-us >> Operating System Microsoft WinXP >> Browser Internet Explorer 8.0 >> Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET >> CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; >> DI60SP1001) >> Javascript version 1.3 >> Monitor Resolution : 1024 x 768 >> Color Depth : 32 bits >> Time of Visit Nov 17 2012 6:33:08 pm >> Last Page View Nov 17 2012 6:33:08 pm >> Visit Length 0 seconds >> Page Views 1 >> Referring URL http://www.google.co...wwWJrm94lCEqRmovPXJg >> Search Engine google.com >> Search Words david amos bernie madoff >> Visit Entry Page http://qslspolitics....-wendy-olsen-on.html >> Visit Exit Page http://qslspolitics....-wendy-olsen-on.html >> Out Click >> Time Zone UTC-5:00 >> Visitor's Time Nov 17 2012 12:33:08 pm >> Visit Number 29,419 >> >> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html >> >> >> Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its >> because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it yet >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:36:04 -0400 >> Subject: This is a brief as I can make my concerns Randy >> To: randyedmunds@gov.nl.ca >> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com >> >> In a nutshell my concerns about the actions of the Investment Industry >> affect the interests of every person in every district of every >> country not just the USA and Canada. I was offering to help you with >> Emera because my work with them and Danny Williams is well known and >> some of it is over eight years old and in the PUBLIC Record. >> >> All you have to do is stand in the Legislature and ask the MInister of >> Justice why I have been invited to sue Newfoundland by the >> Conservatives >> >> >> Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is the >> link to Madoff and Putnam Investments >> >> Here is why >> >> http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2 >> >> Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate >> Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice >> Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the >> following file >> >> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf >> >> http://occupywallst.org/users/DavidRaymondAmos/ >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Hansen, David"David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca >> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:28:44 +0000 >> Subject: RE: I just called again Mr Hansen >> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >> >> Hello Mr. Amos, >> >> I manage the Justice Canada civil litigation section in the Atlantic >> region. We are only responsible for litigating existing civil >> litigation files in which the Attorney General of Canada is a named >> defendant or plaintiff. If you are a plaintiff or defendant in an >> existing civil litigation matter in the Atlantic region in which >> Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant or plaintiff please >> provide the court file number, the names of the parties in the action >> and your question. I am not the appropriate contact for other >> matters. >> >> Thanks >> >> David A. Hansen >> Regional Director | Directeur régional >> General Counsel |Avocat général >> Civil Litigation and Advisory | Contentieux des affaires civiles et >> services de consultation >> Department of Justice | Ministère de la Justice >> Suite 1400 – Duke Tower | Pièce 1400 – Tour Duke >> 5251 Duke Street | 5251 rue Duke >> Halifax, Nova Scotia | Halifax, Nouvelle- Écosse >> B3J 1P3 >> david.hansen@justice.gc.ca >> Telephone | Téléphone (902) 426-3261 / Facsimile | Télécopieur (902) >> 426-2329 >> This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by solicitor-client >> privilege. Unauthorized distribution or disclosure is prohibited. If >> you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us and delete >> this entire e-mail. >> Before printing think about the Environment >> Thinking Green, please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. >> Pensez vert, svp imprimez que si nécessaire. >> >> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:23:24 -0300 >>> Subject: ATTN FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers Have you talked to >>> your buddies Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly about the wiretap tapes YET? >>> To: boston@ic.fbi.gov, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov, >>> bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, >>> Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, >>> jcarney@carneybassil.com, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net >>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, birgittaj@althingi.is, >>> shmurphy@globe.com, redicecreations@gmail.com >>> >>> FBI Boston >>> One Center Plaza >>> Suite 600 >>> Boston, MA 02108 >>> Phone: (617) 742-5533 >>> Fax: (617) 223-6327 >>> E-mail: Boston@ic.fbi.gov >>> >>> Hours >>> Although we operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, our normal >>> "walk-in" business hours are from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday >>> through Friday. If you need to speak with a FBI representative at any >>> time other than during normal business hours, please telephone our >>> office at (617) 742-5533. >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >>> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300 >>> Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is >>> finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap >>> tapes Sell them on Ebay? >>> To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov, >>> Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney@carneybassil.com, >>> bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, wolfheartlodge@live.com, shmurphy@globe.com, >>> >> jonathan.albano@bingham.com, mvalencia@globe.com >>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com, >>> PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com >>> >>> http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/05/james-whitey-bulger-jury-selection-process-enters-second-day/KjS80ofyMMM5IkByK74bkK/story.html >>> >>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html >>> >>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask >>> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING???? >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY >>> >>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the >>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball >>> cards? >>> >>> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc >>> >>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006 >>> >>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html >>> >>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139 >>> >>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143 >>> >>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006 >>> Senator Arlen Specter >>> United States Senate >>> Committee on the Judiciary >>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building >>> Washington, DC 20510 >>> >>> Dear Mr. Specter: >>> >>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man >>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters >>> raised in the attached letter. >>> >>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap >>> tapes. >>> >>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously. >>> >>> Very truly yours, >>> Barry A. Bachrach >>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403 >>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003 >>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David Amos"david.raymond.amos@gmail.com >>> To: "Rob Talach"rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing >>> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why >>> >>> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean >>> a lot to you >>> >>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400 >>> Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau What say you NOW >>> Bernadine Chapman?? >>> To: Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, phil.giles@statcan.ca, >>> maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca, >>> bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, >>> david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca, >>> denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca, >>> webo@xplornet.com, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, >>> rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1@parl.gc.ca, >>> Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca,Clemet1@parl.gc.ca, maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca, >>> >> oig@sec.gov, whistleblower@finra.org, whistle@fsa.gov.uk, >>> david@fairwhistleblower.ca >>> Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, >>> bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca, >>> Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, >>> Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca, >>> ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca> >>> >>> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm >>> >>> http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf >>> >>> From: Gilles Moreau Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy >>> Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH >>> Constable Peddle??? >>> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com >>> >>> Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails. >>> >>> Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC >>> Director General >>> HR Transformation >>> 73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502 >>> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2 >>> >>> Tel 613-843-6039 >>> Cel 613-818-6947 >>> >>> Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC >>> Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines >>> 73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502 >>> Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2 >>> >>> tél 613-843-6039 >>> cel 613-818-6947 >>> gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca >>> >
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Methinks mindless David Lametti or one of his staff would at least Googled Charles LeBlond and David Amos before appointing Chucky to the Court of Appeal of the Queens Bench N'esy Pas?
Charles LeBlond specialized in civil litigation as partner at Stewart McKelvey
CBC News·
Charles LeBlond is the newest justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal. (Michel Nogue/Radio-Canada)
Moncton lawyer Charles LeBlond has been appointed to the Court of Appeal of New Brunswick. LeBlond, a partner with Stewart McKelvey LLP, was appointed Friday by David Lametti, the federal minister of justice and attorney general.
LeBlond was born in Grand-Falls and received his law degree at the University of Moncton in 1982, a news release said.
He specialized in civil litigation and focused mainly in the areas of insurance, construction, professional liability and corporate and commercial litigation, the release said. He has appeared before the Court of Appeal and the Supreme Court of Canada.
He was the president of the Law Society of New Brunswick from 2000-2001 and chaired the discipline committee for more than 10 years.
Methinks mindless David Lametti or one of his staff would at least Googled Charles LeBlond David Amos before appointing Chucky to the Court of Appeal without having to do time on the Queen's Bench first N'esy Pas?
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Josef Blow
@David Amos Why does a lawyer appointed to the NB Court of Appeal court have to "do time" at Queen's Bench before going to the Court of Appeal? And what relationship is there between David Amos and Charles Leblond? Assuming you are the David Amos you mention in your comment, is there anything in particular to prompt the Justice Minister to google your (his) name?
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Lewis Taylor
@David Amos So what....you are in court constantly for ridiculous things...the problem is actually psychiatric. How much have you cost our judicial system? Do not leave your home or use the internet and society will be fine.
David Amos
@Josef Blow "what relationship is there between David Amos and Charles Leblond? Assuming you are the David Amos you mention in your comment"
@David Amos You are busy man, Mr. Amos. I must say that I find your correspondence to be overwhelmingly voluminous for the uninitiated. I thought there was a lack of focus in your approach, but that is of course my opinion only.
David Amos
@Josef Blow Who cares what you think when you don't have a real name?
David Amos
@Lewis Taylor"So what....you are in court constantly for ridiculous things...the problem is actually psychiatric. How much have you cost our judicial system"
Cry me a river
Josef Blow
@David Amos do you have anything of substance to add, Sir? Trumpian efforts to avoid the matter at hand are far too obvious, je pense.
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David Amos
@Josef Blow Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Josef Blow
@David Amos This brand of exchange is base. It adds nothing to the debate.
@Josef Blow "This brand of exchange is base. It adds nothing to the debate."
There is no debate with you. I you wish to see a debate Google Fundy Royal Debate
or better yet intervene in my net lawsuit
maude windsor
oh oh...trudeau has ordered this long time liberal to be appointed to justice...news should say it was trudeau looking for votes in october19 election!!! also, this judge has close acquaintence to LeBlanc's wife.! educated at UofM..means less of a academic level hehas.
Josef Blow
@maude windsor please explain what you mean?
David Amos
@maude windsor Methinks everybody knows why I am going to enjoy running for public office for the 7th time and possibly the 8th time in the same year like it did back in 2006 N'esy Pas?
daryl doucette
@David Amos where ya runin bud?
David Amos
@daryl doucette Fundy Royal again
Josef Blow
@maude windsor It’s ok, Ms. Windsor. I doubt whether you can explain what you are attempting to say.
michael levesque
another francophone judge just hope he is more qualified than mary claude blais.
David Amos
@michael levesque He ain't
Lewis Taylor
@michael levesque How many judges on the appeals court can hear a case in french? Not many so anyone who is bilingual is more than welcomed. People need to do the math before venting.
daryl doucette
Lametti....trudeaus new " yes" man....
David Amos
@daryl doucette YUP
David Peters
Federal liberals have had problems filling Judge position vacancies. Would be nice, as a voter, to have a more direct say in who gets to be a Judge.
@David Peters Methinks all the Feds know and legions of others about how much Hell I raised when Jody Wilson-Raybould appointed her Deputy Minister William F. Pentney to be a judge of the Federal Court and lawyer John Laskin, partner at Torys LLP, to be judge in the Federal Court of Appeal N'esy Pas?
JJ Carrier
@David Amos Still waiting for you to answer the question I posed you last week...
David Amos
@JJ Carrier It was blocked 3 times so I gave up
Josef Blow
@David Amos Why would officials and legions of others be mindful of your objections to these appointments, Mr. Amos? Were these people not qualified to be judges?
Karl Patterson
@David Peters WE have too many unqualified people elected now by voters is do not know anything about our system of government and law.
Mack Leigh
Are any judges being appointed in NB who are not francophones ?? For representing 30% of the population it appears that they receive the lion's share of .......everything..
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@Mack Leigh And a " U de MMMer ta boot!.....but for sure he will be " impartial" on any language issues which may appear before him.
Content disabled. Joseph Vacher
@Mack Leigh welcome to soviet NB
Josef Blow
@Mack Leigh According to the current list of QB Justices, 18 out of 31 judges would, on the basis of their names (not a reliable indicator I admit), be francophone. A lion's share? Any judges who are not francophones? I'll leave you with the task of making that determination.
Josef Blow
@daryl doucette Perhaps you could expand on your knowledge of judicial impartiality ? What are you trying to say, exactly? Would anglophone justices be equally impartial if they were to rule on language matters?
Josef Blow
@Joseph Vacher Soviet NB, eh? What, exactly does that mean?
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh
Maybe they where chosen for skills ? and if its numbers you want :19 of the current judges in NB out 0f 30 are English which makes it 63% for 68% of the English population of NB.
Marc Martin
@Josef Blow
Its actually the opposite 19 out of the current 30 ones are English ( not counting the new one)
Josef Blow
@Marc Martin You are right Marc. The point being, of course, is that the large majority of QB justices have English-sounding names. The other point is that it is always more interesting to discuss facts, rather than opinions.
daryl doucette
@Josef Blow With the " track record" of just about every " legal mind" U de M has ever produced, no, I do not believe " impartiality in language matters" was in the curriculum in their studies there. And as far as an " anglophone judges" impartiality in said matters I doubt that would be an issue in this province , as they would probably not be allowed near such a case.
Marguerite Deschamps
@daryl doucette, more often than not, they have no clue about language law.
Marc Martin
@Joseph Vacher
*welcome to soviet NB*
You are doing the soviet part?
Josef Blow
@daryl doucette Mr. Doucette, you appear to have greater knowledge than I with respect to these matters. It would be helpful to me, and likely to others as well, if you could be more specific in your criticism of the "legal minds" (as you name them) that are partial in their findings. I'm assuming you are referring to judges only. Why would an anglophone judge not be allowed to hear language matters? And, assuming that anglophone judges were to sit in language matters, do you think they would be more impartial or partial, and why? I'm confused as to what you are getting at.
Josef Blow
@Marguerite Deschamps Why wold you make such as comment? Are you suggesting that all francophone judges know more than anglophone judges?
Josef Blow
@Marc Martin I think we should give @Joseph Vacher a chance to explain what he really means by his suggestion that, "NB is soviet". He has yet to respond to my earlier query on precisely that issue.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Josef Blow, when it comes to language law, that is exactly what I am suggesting.
Josef Blow
@Marguerite Deschamps thank you for responding. Judges are like anyone else when exercising their functions. If they are in doubt or lacking in knowledge as to what a language statute (or any other statute) means precisely, then they will consult the statute to understand its meaning and then they will apply it to the matter being examined. You say "more often than not"… what instances are you referring to?
Lou Bell
@Marguerite Deschamps The Francophone judges were taught by the SANB backed Mr. Savoie , who most Anglophones don't trust , do there's your answer !
Lou Bell
@Lou Bell Most were taught by Mr. Savoie -- the self proclaimed " expert " .
David Amos
@Mack Leigh YUP
Josef Blow
@Lou Bell Hello Lou Bell. Who is the Mr. Savoie you refer to? I don't understand what you say is an answer?
David Amos
@Joseph Vacher Methinks "Welcome to the Circus" would be a better greeting N'esy Pas?
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@David Amos YUP? Did you read the remaining comments in this thread regarding the composition of the QB, Mr. Amos? The facts are the facts regarding the judges who sit there?
Josef Blow
@David Amos And perhaps, Mr. Amos, you might explain what you mean as might Mr. Vacher? I think it is important to explain one's position, don't you?
Lewis Taylor
@Mack Leigh How many francophones on court of appeal? To hear cases? do the math....Lenny McLaughlin.
Lewis Taylor
@Josef Blow they could not be impartial since they could not hear or write cases in the other language that they do not understand.
Josef Blow
@Lewis Taylor This comment is confusing … why could an anglophone judge not hear cases or write decisions in the other language if he or she is proficient in both official languages? Francophone justices who are proficient in both official languages are able to hear arguments and write decisions in both official languages; why would anglophone judges not be able to do the same?
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David Amos
@Josef Blow Did you read the remaining comments in this thread regarding the composition of the QB, Mr. Amos?
Methinks the fact is that you should feel free to Google me in order to investigate my lawsuit against the Crown and of my well known conflict of interest with legions of lawyers and many judges N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Josef Blow BTW I do not believe that is your real name as per the rules of this domain
Josef Blow
@David Amos Mr. Amos, you are welcome to your opinion.
Josef Blow
@David Amos Incidentally, I would be most interested n your response to my earlier questions.
JJ Carrier
@Josef Blow I asked him one last week and he still reuses to answer...
Josef Blow
@JJ Carrier A pity really. Mind you, he is not the only one whose opinions evaporate when legitimate questions are asked. Many of the comments on here are quick and quirky without any factual basis. But then again, people are entitled to voice their opinions.
David Amos
@JJ Carrier Not true every time I answered you my reply was blocked just like with Mr Blow just now
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David Amos
@Josef Blow "Incidentally, I would be most interested n your response to my earlier questions."
It was blocked as usual You responded to the second comment of mine about your doubtful name which was not blocked
Josef Blow
@David Amos please try to reformulate your response. Had you used foul or inflammatory words?
Josef Blow
@Mack Leigh you have not commented on the facts, Mr. Leigh...
Josef Blow
@Lou Bell no response, Sir?
Joseph Vacher
@Mack Leigh Welcome to Soviet NB
daryl doucette
@Marguerite Deschamps Whom is " they" you are referring to?
Josef Blow
@Lou Bell Perhaps you could expand on your commentary?
Josef Blow
@daryl doucette Mr. Doucette, To the extent that you do not hesitate to solicit followup information from others, I would once again like to do the same in respect of a matter you addressed earlier, namely the "legal minds" at the UM … Once again, could you be more specific in your criticism of the "legal minds" (as you name them) that are partial in their findings. I'm assuming you are referring to judges only. Why would an anglophone judge not be allowed to hear language matters? And, assuming that anglophone judges were to sit in language matters, do you think they would be more impartial or partial, and why? I'm confused as to what you are getting at.
I do not really expect an answer from you since I feel you may be somehow trapped for want of specifics in matters over which your command is rather limp.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Lou Bell , which Mr. Savoie?
Josef Blow
@daryl doucette According to the thread in which you yourself participated (?! please refer above), the "they" to whom Ms. Deschamps refers are the anglophone judges, the judges who, in your stated opinion, would not be allowed near a case bearing upon language matters. Remember now?
David Amos
@daryl doucette Methinks a SANB wannabe lawyer is jerking our chains N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@daryl doucette Methinks a SANB wannabe lawyer is jerking our chains N'esy Pas?
Josef Blow
@David Amos Darryl Doucette is shirking the opportunity to address matters that have been brought to his attention, I fear. N'esc-e pad?
Josef Blow
@David Amos Anyway, there is unfortunately a lack of cogent argument on here, so I wish you all well and please do rest up. Tomorrow is another day. Conspiracies, real and perceived, are ripe for the picking, Davie. Have fun. Tata for now. Remember what I suggested about focus? Lost cause … methunk
Methinks the Jody and Jane Tag Team everybody else knows that this SNC-Lavalin nonsense is just the tip of a very malevolent iceberg that the Conservatives are every bit as afraid of N'esy Pas?
Now that this DPA has been enacted and is in full force, any future govt which might form, such as the conservatives, are probably licking their chops and drooling over the possibilities for all their corrupt business friends and associates. Watch out, Canada.
Bobby Long
@Roger Williams - thats because he didn't do anything wrong.
David Amos
@Roger Williams Methinks the Jody and Jane Tag Team everybody else knows that this is just SN-Lavalin nonsense is just the tip of a very malevolent iceberg that the Conservatives are every bit as afraid of N'esy Pas?
OECD 'concerned' by allegations Trudeau interfered in SNC-Lavalin case
SNC-Lavalin is accused of bribing Libyan officials to win a $58 million contract
The Canadian Press·
The OECD, which oversees the global anti-bribery convention, says it's monitoring allegations Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his staff interfered in a criminal prosecution against SNC-Lavalin. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)
The international economic group that oversees a global anti-bribery convention is monitoring allegations that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau interfered in a criminal prosecution against SNC-Lavalin.
The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development's working group on bribery said in a statement Monday that it is "concerned" by accusations that Trudeau and staff in his office tried to get former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to let the Quebec engineering giant negotiate a remediation agreement rather than pursue the firm on criminal charges of bribery and fraud.
SNC-Lavalin is accused of bribing Libyan officials between 2001 and 2011 to win business there. Canada is one of 44 nations that in 1999 signed the legally binding Anti-Bribery Convention, which established international standards to criminalize the bribery of foreign officials. The idea was that all signatories — including all 36 OECD nations as well as eight others, such as Russia and Brazil — would punish their own citizens and companies for trying to undermine governments elsewhere. Watch: The Power Panel discusses OECD 'concerns' about SNC-Lavalin controversy
Power and Politics
OECD 'concerned' about SNC-Lavalin case | Power Panel
Brad Lavigne, Yolande James, John Paul Tasker and Rachel Curran discuss the OECD monitoring allegations that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau interfered in a criminal prosecution. 10:52
Keeping an eye on Canada
The working group is tasked with monitoring the implementation and enforcement of the convention.
It wrote to the Prime Minister's Office to express its concerns about the SNC-Lavalin matter and says it is keeping a close eye on investigations by the House of Commons justice committee and the federal ethics commissioner. It says Canada has pledged to update the group on the matter at the working group's June meeting.
The statement says Canada's commitment under the convention is to "prosecutorial independence in foreign bribery cases" and that political factors — such as national economic interests and the identities of the company or individuals involved — should have no influence on the prosecution.
Adam Austen, a spokesman for Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, said Canada "firmly supports" the OECD and noted Canada was a founding country in the Anti-Bribery Convention.
"We acknowledge the concerns raised today by the OECD working group on bribery," he said in a written statement. "We will continue to work with and update the working group on the robust and independent domestic processes currently underway in Canada, which the working group has recognized and encouraged."
Last year, the Liberals introduced a new law to allow the director of public prosecutions to use what are known internationally as deferred-prosecution agreements (DPAs). These agreements shelve a criminal prosecution of a company in exchange for the company admitting wrongdoing, paying fines, giving up any money it earned in the commission of the crime it is accused of and agreeing to be monitored for a period of time.
If the company fulfils the terms of the agreement, the criminal penalties can be dropped. If the company fails to keep its end of the bargain, the charges can still go forward.
Last fall, the director of public prosecutions in Canada decided SNC-Lavalin was not eligible for a remediation agreement. Wilson-Raybould, then the attorney general, decided not to use her authority to overrule that decision.
Under pressure
Wilson-Raybould said that after that, multiple people from Trudeau's office, the finance minister's office and the Privy Council Office all put sustained, improper pressure on her to change her mind.
She said that when she wouldn't do so, she was shuffled out as minister of justice and attorney general to the lower-profile job of minister of veterans affairs. She ultimately resigned from cabinet entirely a few days after the Globe and Mail newspaper first reported on the allegations.
Treasury Board President Jane Philpott resigned from cabinet last week, citing a lack of confidence in how Trudeau had handled the matter.
Trudeau's principal secretary, Gerald Butts, resigned his own post Feb. 18. He said last week he resigned not because he had done anything wrong, but because he felt if he stayed on after Wilson-Raybould resigned it would look as though Trudeau was choosing him, a longtime friend, over a minister.
Trudeau and his staff deny anything improper occurred, saying they only wanted to make sure Wilson-Raybould had information about the potential effect a prosecution and conviction could have on SNC-Lavalin's viability and wanted her to seek an outside expert opinion on remediation agreements — a brand-new tool in Canada's criminal law.
Last week, Trudeau blamed the problem on a breakdown in trust between Wilson-Raybould and his office and committed to hiring outside experts to advise the government on interactions between political and public service staff on justice files.
What is the 'moral authority to govern'— and how does a government lose it?
CBC Radio·
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and former Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada Jody Wilson-Raybould in Ottawa, 2015. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
It has become the bumper sticker of a scandal — "the moral authority to govern." Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been told he has lost that moral right to govern over SNC Lavalin affair, and should resign. But what exactly does the phrase mean? Where does 'moral authority' originate, and how does a leader lose it or give it away?
We invited two experts to help us explore the complicated mix of politics, morality and ethics.
Heather MacIvor is a legal writer at LexisNexis Canada and the founding editor of the Rule of Law Report. Before becoming a lawyer, she was a political scientist at the University of Windsor.
Patricia Hughes is the Founding Executive of the Law Commission of Ontario, and the former Dean of the University of Calgary law school.
Here are a few excerpts from their conversation with Michael Enright:
Patricia Hughes: "Moral authority to govern is a question of perception. It comes down to whether the government is observing the norms, values and fundamental principles, that we have said govern our society. So when a government seems to be acting against those norms, people question whether they still have the moral authority."
Heather MacIvor: "It's the gap that seems to be opening up between the Liberal government's self-professed moral virtue, the performative morality of Mr. Trudeau, and what appears to have happened in dealing with Jody Wilson-Raybould. It's that gap opening up. It's sticking to Justin Trudeau. You have to be careful in politics not to put yourself on too high a pedestal. The fall off really hurts."
Patricia Hughes: "The law was not broken. I believe it was inappropriate, motivated by the wrong reasons, a response to lobbying by a company, and it showed disrespect to Jody Wilson-Raybould's status. But the fact that she didn't resign right away is important. She considered it inappropriate but not more than that. I think that if he hadn't demoted her, we wouldn't be in the situation today."
Click 'listen' above to hear the interview.
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David Amos
Methinks these ladies should Google my name and that of Jody Wilson-Raybould sometime N'esy Pas?
Steve Vaughan
@David Amos Who are you?
David Amos
@Steve Vaughan I am exactly who I say I am and you are not the ghost of the cool dude whose name you are using
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'You are not a leader': RCMP boss's testimony about Moncton shootings inflames corporal Friend of 3 slain Mounties lashes out at RCMP commissioner after feeling betrayed at trial By Gabrielle Fahmy, CBC News Posted: Jun 22, 2017 6:00 AM AT
"When asked by the Crown last week why he wanted to testify, Paulson said it was because as the commissioner, he was accountable for his members.
But when prosecutor Paul Adams asked him if he was then ready to accept responsibility for the death of three officers, Paulson replied "no."
Bouchard said he felt almost physically ill when he heard Paulson's statement. He calls it "a tough pill to swallow."
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BTW I called this dude too and left a voicemail telling him to dig into his records and find what he should to give to his temporary boss ASAP
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Clearly I have very good reasons to make these calls N'esy Pas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger and Mr Speaker Geof Regan???
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If you don't wish to speak to me before I begin litigation then I suspect the Integrity Commissioner New Brunswick or the Federal Crown Counsel can explain the email below and the documents hereto attached to you and your Premier etc.
After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed to speak to one of your staff for the first time
Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I suggested that you study closely.
This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
Date: 20151223
Docket: T-1557-15
Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Plaintiff
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Defendant
ORDER
(Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on December 14, 2015)
The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim in its entirety.
At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg, (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter he stated:
As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you. You are your brother’s keeper.
Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore; former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al, [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There is no order as to costs.
“B. Richard Bell” Judge
Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
"FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most
83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over five years after he began his bragging:
January 13, 2015 This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
December 8, 2014 Why Canada Stood Tall!
Friday, October 3, 2014 Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And Stupid Justin Trudeau?
Vertias Vincit David Raymond Amos 902 800 0369
P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical. Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29, 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
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---------- Original message ---------- From: Póstur IRR postur@irr.is Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000 Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends to be.. To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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Kveðja / Best regards Innanríkisráðuneytið / Ministry of the Interior
Good Day Sir
Thanks for responding so quickly on a Sunday in the middle of what should one of the best long weekends of the year to enjy with family and frineds. It speaks welk of your integrity and diligence.
Like you I too am talking to a lot people this weekend before filing my next round of lawsuits in Federal Court ASAP. After coming across you and checking out your lititgation today I have no doubt whatsoever you will enjoy my attachments concerning the lack of public sector integrity within our purportedly profound democracy and its questionable justice system..
In a nutshell the words found below are how I explained myself to many members of the RCMP etc who attacked me over the years. Need I say was overjoyed when my sworn enemy Gilles Moreau finally answered me while he was still in charge of the RCMP pension plan?
Veritas Vincit David Raymond Amos 902 800 0369
The following words can be found all over the Internet for years Here is just one example
From: Gilles Moreau Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500 Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH Constable Peddle??? To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails.
Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC Director General HR Transformation 73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502 Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0R2
Tel 613-843-6039 Cel 613-818-6947
Gilles Moreau, surintendant principal, CRHA et ACC Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines 73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502 Ottawa, ON K1A 0R2
Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the following file
China invokes SNC-Lavalin controversy to advocate for Huawei exec's release
Foreign Ministry says Canada has questions to answer on judicial independence
Thomson Reuters·
China's Foreign Ministry brought up the ongoing SNC-Lavalin controversy to make the case for the release of Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)
China's Foreign Ministry grabbed a chance to question the state of judicial independence in Canada on Friday, as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government faced accusations at home that it had tried to intervene to stop a corruption trial.
Trudeau's domestic troubles have attracted attention in Chinese state media due to his previous assertion that his government cannot interfere in the case of a senior Huawei executive arrested in Canada and now fighting extradition to the United States.
Canada is likely to announce on Friday that an extradition hearing against Meng Wanzhou, the telecommunication giant's chief financial officer, can proceed, legal experts said, worsening already icy relations with Beijing.
China has repeatedly called for the release of Meng, arrested in Vancouver in December at Washington's request. In late January the U.S. Justice Department charged Huawei and Meng with conspiring to violate U.S. sanctions on Iran.
At a regular daily news briefing in Beijing, China's Foreign Ministry took the opportunity to take Canada to task over possible double standards, by commenting on a domestic Canadian political issue that does not otherwise involve China.
Trudeau has disputed allegations by his former justice minister that government officials inappropriately pressured her to help the SNC-Lavalin construction firm avoid a corruption trial.
Asked by a state media journalist if it was contradictory for Trudeau to say he couldn't interfere in Meng's case while his government is accused of trying to intervene in the SNC-Lavalin case, Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said he "really liked this question."
"Of course I think that this is a question that should be asked of the Canadian government," Lu said.
"In fact on this case you have mentioned, people in Canada are paying it a great deal of attention," he added. "In fact, not only Chinese and Canadian citizens, but the whole world are extremely interested to hear how the Canadian government answers this question."
Both Meng and Huawei have denied the U.S. allegations.
Ottawa has until midnight on Friday to announce whether it will issue an authority to proceed, which would allow a court in British Columbia to start a formal extradition hearing.
Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland has stressed that Canada is a "rule of law" country and is acting without political interference in the extradition case of Meng.
"In the Meng case, our government has been scrupulous," she said during an interview Thursday with CBC Radio's Ottawa Morning. "Decisions that are correctly taken at the official, ie. non-political level have been scrupulously taken at the official, non-political level, and there has been no interference, political element to the decision."
Huawei's Meng Wanzhou extradition case sparks 'serious concerns,' put over to May 8
'There are issues about the political character, political motivation, comments by the U.S. president,' detained Chinese business executive's lawyer tells B.C. Supreme Court judge.
A lawyer for Meng Wanzhou has raised concerns about what he calls the “political” nature of the Chinese business executive’s extradition case.
Richard Peck told a B.C. Supreme Court judge Wednesday that it was a rare and possibly unique extradition case and that he had “serious concerns” that were not common to most such cases.
“There are issues about the political character, political motivation, comments by the U.S. president,” Peck said in an apparent reference to U.S. President Donald Trump’s declaration in December that he might intervene in the case if he could get a better trade deal with China.
“There are issues arising out of the treatment of Ms. Meng on her arrival at the Vancouver International Airport and her detention and subsequent arrest. It’s a complex case. I don’t say that lightly.”
Peck made the comments during a brief appearance by Meng, the chief financial officer of Chinese tech giant Huawei, in B.C. Supreme Court in Vancouver.
It was anticipated that a date would be set for the extradition hearing of Meng, who is wanted in the U.S. on charges she allegedly participated in a scheme to bypass U.S. trade sanctions against Iran. But Peck told B.C. Supreme Court Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes that there would be a number of defence applications that need to be heard before the hearing could get under way.
He said there may well be disclosure applications, abuse of process motions and applications to introduce defence evidence. Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou, who is out on bail and remains under partial house arrest after she was detained Dec. 1 at the behest of American authorities, arrives back at her home after a court appearance in Vancouver, on Wednesday March 6, 2019.DARRYL DYCK / THE CANADIAN PRESS
Peck said he and Meng’s defence team have made access-to-information requests to the RCMP and the Canada Border Services Agency, both of which have exceeded the deadlines for compliance resulting in complaints being lodged with the privacy commissioner.
After hearing from Peck and federal Crown lawyer John Gibb-Carsley, the judge put the matter over to May 8 to fix a date for the applications to be heard and a date for the extradition hearing itself.
Dressed casually in a purple hoodie, black pants and white running shoes, Meng sat quietly in the prisoner’s dock during the brief appearance. She sipped on a cup of water and spoke with one of her lawyers.
The Vancouver courtroom was packed with media and spectators. Protester Kuang Yang sets fire to a Chinese flag as Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou appears for an extradition hearing at B.C. Supreme Court in Vancouver on Wednesday, March 6, 2019.Nick Procaylo / PNG Meng was taken into custody Dec.1 on a provisional arrest warrant issued by the United States, which was seeking to have her extradited.
The Chinese, who are in the midst of a trade war with the U.S., protested the move, alleging that Meng’s human rights were violated.
Also at that time, authorities in China on Dec. 10 arrested two Canadian men. Michael Kovrig, who was on leave from Global Affairs Canada, and entrepreneur Michael Spavor. The Chinese government has since accused the two men of working together to steal state secrets.
Canadian officials, who denied that Meng’s rights were violated, said they were merely carrying out their extradition treaty obligations with the Americans.
After a three-day court hearing Meng, the daughter of the company’s billionaire founder, was released on $10-million bail with house arrest and travel restrictions imposed on her.
Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou, left, who is out on bail and remains under partial house arrest after she was detained Dec. 1 at the behest of American authorities, is accompanied by a private security detail as she leaves her home to attend a court appearance in Vancouver, on Wednesday March 6, 2019.DARRYL DYCK / THE CANADIAN PRESS In February, the U.S. justice department laid fraud charges against Meng and Huawei and filed a formal request for Meng’s extradition.
On Friday, Canadian justice officials announced that they had issued a so-called authority-to-proceed, formally commencing an extradition process in the court.
Over the weekend it was revealed that Meng and her growing team of lawyers had filed a civil claim in B.C. Supreme Court alleging that her rights had been violated during the arrest at the airport.
The extradition hearing, which will be held in B.C. Supreme Court in Vancouver, will feature the Crown making arguments and presenting evidence to a judge. Meng’s lawyers will have an opportunity to respond before the judge makes a decision.
In this courtroom sketch, Meng Wanzhou, chief financial officer of Huawei Technologies, listens during an appearance at B.C. Supreme Court in Vancouver March 6.FELICITY DON / THE CANADIAN PRESS Whatever case they put forward, Meng’s lawyers face an uphill battle as most extradition requests in Canadian courts result in the accused being extradited. That happens in part because the standard of proof required at an extradition hearing is less than what is needed in a criminal context.
After the judge makes the decision on whether to commit Meng for extradition, the federal justice minister must decide if she should be surrendered to face trial in the United States.
Both a judge’s committal order and a minister’s surrender order may be appealed to the B.C. Court of Appeal. Decisions of the B.C. Court of Appeal may be appealed to the Supreme Court of Canada with the entire process playing out over a period of months or even years.
Richard C.C. Peck, Q.C. is the founding partner of Peck and Company and is widely regarded as one of the leading criminal lawyers in Canada. He has practiced in criminal law for over 40 years.
A lifetime resident of Vancouver, British Columbia, Mr. Peck received his LL.B. from the University of British Columbia Faculty of Law in 1974 and was called to the British Columbia Bar in 1975. In 1987, he was appointed Queen’s Counsel.
Mr. Peck has appeared as counsel at all levels of court in Canada, including the Supreme Court of Canada on numerous occasions. He has represented clients in some of British Columbia’s most well-known and complex cases. Mr. Peck is also a special prosecutor and has conducted numerous prosecutions on behalf of the Ministry of the Attorney General.
In addition to maintaining his legal practice, Mr. Peck is a dedicated contributor to and participant in the legal community, both domestically and internationally. Mr. Peck is a Life Bencher of the Law Society of British Columbia, Co-Chair of the Federation of Law Societies of Canada’s National Criminal Law Program, Chair of British Columbia’s Regional Committee of the Supreme Court Advocacy Institute of Canada, a Director of the Legal Historical Society of British Columbia, and has been an Adjunct Professor at the University of British Columbia Faculty of Law. As well, Mr. Peck is a fellow with both the American College of Trial Lawyers and the International Society of Barristers, and a Director of the International Society for the Reform of Criminal Law.
Mr. Peck is also the author of a wide variety papers and publications in the area of criminal law and has regularly contributed to continuing legal education programs for over 20 years
Richard C.C. Peck, Q.C. David Paciocco Nikos Harris
Address
Peck and Company 610 - 744 West Hastings Street Vancouver, British Columbia V6C 1A5 Telephone: (604) 669-0208 FAX: (604) 669-0616 E-mail: rpeck@peckandcompany.ca
Lawyer of Huawei’s Meng says Trump comments raise political motivation ‘concerns’
By Staff The Canadian Press
WATCH ABOVE: Huawei Technologies CFO Meng Wanzhou arrives at B.C. Supreme court for a hearing in regards to her extradition case
VANCOUVER – A defence lawyer says an extradition case involving Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of Huawei Technologies, raises “serious concerns” about political motivations.
Meng’s lawyer Richard Peck has told a British Columbia Supreme Court judge the case is “rare” and comments by United States President Donald Trump raise concerns.
WATCH: Immigration Lawyer Richard Kurland explains what happened with Meng Wanzhou’s court date in Vancouver
Trump has said he’d intervene in the case if that helped secure a trade deal with Beijing. Peck says the case is complex and will take time, and as a result the defence and Crown have agreed to put it over until May 8 to fix a date for an extradition hearing.
My God, that's a strikingly accurate phrase.