Top civil servant slams SNC-Lavalin media report as erroneous, 'defamatory'

February 21, 2019, 11:49 am

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks I should dare anyone to ask me why I am well aware Michael Wernick was Deputy Minister of Aboriginal and Northern affairs under Harper Anyone can Google Michael Wernick and David Amos N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lametti-justice-committee-snc-lavalin-1.5027617

Top civil servant slams SNC-Lavalin media report as erroneous, 'defamatory'

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Don Cameron

Lametti was hand selected by Trudeau to 'smooth the way' for SNC to get their DPA.

I don't expect the committee will get much that's useful out of him. He's Trudeau's boy.

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Troy Mann

@Don Cameron

You will say that about anyone who doesnt say exactly what you want to hear. That is precisely why this is a witch hunt.

JWR as Attorney General had the responsibility to report any crime committed to the RCMP and she didnt. If she felt the pressure from the PMO was "improper" while really cares if a law wasn't broken?

Are we to be so naive to think the Prime Minister isn't going to make a case for following his directive?

This is the dumbest "scandal" ever

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Matt Thuaii

@Troy Mann

If Canadians truly believe this isn’t a glorified election ad for the Conservative Party, at the cost of eroding trust in our justice system...

...naive is exactly the right word.

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Troy Mann

@Matt Thuaii

Conservatives under the Harper banner have never cared about eroding trust in our justice system. 10 years of Harper scandals and judgments against him were all because of "liberal activist judges legislating from the bench"... There entire motive is to eliminate trust in the justice system so they can remove our freedoms and rights..

Sheer has already stated clearly he doesnt care about any judge standing in the way of a pipeline, they will bulldoze through no matter what the courts say or the people do...

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Neil Turv

@Matt Thuaii

The real question is how did they get the independent indigenous senators, the NDP and the Globe and Mail to work for them.

One of those questions none of the hyper partisans on the Liberal side can answer, along with what happened to Trudeau's promise not to bury things in Omnibus bills, why did Butts coincidentally resign right after this allegation broke, etc. etc.

I'm not saying Trudeau's guilty, but pretending the reaction (from all sides of the political spectrum) is unwarranted baseless smearing all for the gains of the Cons is about as believable as someone claiming Harper is a nice, affable guy.

Hold your leader of choice to the same standards you hold those you don't support.

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Troy Mann

@Neil Turv

Michael Wernick was deputy Minister of aboriginal and northern affairs for the entire Harper tenure...

Are you going to say he is a liberal? Are you going to say the first non partisan witness is lying under oath?

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Matt Thuaii

@Neil Turv

That’s the real question? First, I’ll happily shatter your claim that no one can explain it, because I can (not that I’m hyper partisan, which is just as ludicrous a claim as that “question” being “real”). Indigenous senators care about Indigenous issues. They want to make this an “indigenous” issue (even though Jody Wilson Raybould does not), because if it is, they get to talk about it, even use it for their own purposes (whatever those are). The NDP is on board because they’re politically “lost in the wilderness”, and they’ll run with any wedge that gets them votes (like any party would)...and as for the Globe and Mail? You don’t understand why a media outlet (especially one struggling for relevance in the internet age) would run a story they know will ignite the exact situation we’re watching unfold? During the lead up to an election?

None of these parties are working for anyone; just like the Conservatives, they’re all in it for themselves.

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Edward Peter

@Don Cameron
If you believe that then all the people elected are on the take, and you should find our self an Island.

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Karen King

@Troy Mann

cons don't care about the law it seems, Andy keeps calling for the government to go over the law...the con way

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Karen King

@Neil Turv

Butts resigned simply because he has always advocated that if there is an accusation about someone they should step down until cleared, showing at least he is not a hypocrite

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David Allan

@Don Cameron

Who better to do that than a member of the Conservative Party of Canada?

He's a Conservative.

Michael Wernick
Deputy Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development
In office
May 5, 2006 – July 11, 2014

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Edith Grey

@David Allan
Do you know what a Deputy Minister is? Again, we go to civics - maybe even the grade 5 version. Deputy Ministers are civil servants....not political appointees. The Minister is the politician. Deputy Ministers do not get switched out if party control changes.

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Darren MacDonald

@Edith Grey He was also deputy clerk under Janice Charette during Paul Martin's term so he was a Liberal using others' logic. Maybe he is a Libervative.

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Jack Slate

Whether Warnick is con or lib is irrelevant. What is important to note that Warnick called JWR in December to give her "context" regarding the negative results of not giving snc a pass. He's knee deep in this scandal and his testimony appears motivated by his own self-defence.

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Neil Turv

@Matt Thuaii

I'm sorry but the mindset that "everyone who dares challenge my narrative is colluding and in it for selfish gains." Is exactly why I find this so amusing and why the claims you are not a hyper partisan.,

The notion that any one major party in Canada is inherently evil, bad or out to destroy Canada....Any party, puts you into the hyper partisan category.

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david mccaig

@Don Cameron

The thought of another ANTI SCIENCE ANTI CLIMATE change right wing government back in power, will make any REASONABLE Canadian , give Trudeau the benefit of the doubt.

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david mccaig

@Don Cameron

IN the MEANTIME lets hope the NDP can get the act together, because so far under SINGH , they've done nothing but hide from controversy.

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david mccaig

@Don Cameron

SEEMS everyday virtually ALL the top posts are DISPROPORTIONATE attacks on on Prime Minister, making reasonable people to think this ISN'T representative of the MAJORITY of people who voted for the Liberal Party of Canada.

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david mccaig

@Don Cameron

Personally I think the disproportionate number of attacks on our Prime Minister are coming from boilers rooms churning out misinformation and outright belligerence toward our government , probably coming from the Russians or the same mechanism that bringing down the Venezuelan government or both.

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david mccaig

@Don Cameron

YOU"D THINK by the tone and number of attacks on this site everyday, Justin Trudeau hasn't a friend or a supporter, this despite most of the time his poll numbers bouncing around the near 40% AND THAT makes you wonder whats going on.

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David Amos

@Don Cameron "Lametti was hand selected by Trudeau to 'smooth the way' for SNC to get their DPA"

Methinks you may be correct much to the chagrin of Mr Mann and his cohorts N'esy Pas?

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Troy Mann

@David Amos

I support the use of DPA to protect innocent Canadian jobs and investors

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David Amos

@Troy Mann Methinks you mean Vestcor N'esy Pas?

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david mccaig

@Don Cameron

ONE of the reasons we here in Canada and the United States have such APATHETIC bunch of wilfully uninformed voters , is because in the US CIVICS CLASSES have all been done away with and here in Canada its anemic to say the best AND in both cases I think this deliberate.

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Roy Decoy

@Don Cameron And so is the new Ethic Commissioner...both from PQ

 
Daryl McBride

Liberals investigating Liberals and limiting witnesses. What happened to Canada?

Peter Boone

@Daryl McBride The Liberals must take Canadians to be fools to proceed with a farce of this magnitude. Unfortunately there may still be plenty of fish on their hooks.

Gordon McPherson

@Daryl McBride

I know.

"You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it."

Smith John

@Daryl McBride

"Canada is back!"

Tarl Cabbot

@Daryl McBride

Limiting witnesses?
How so?

Oh, yeah, wait a minute . . .

The lawyer (David Lametti) will undoubtedly provide reams and reams and reams of unintelligible "fie" print testimony.
That's what lawyers do.

Nico De Jong

@Smith John
what he meant was Liberals are back - at the trough, and at their schem ing and conniv ing ways.
Oh, and Liberal arrogance on steroids is back.

Chris Harris

@Daryl McBride

You sound surprised.

Bernie Hunter

@Daryl McBride

Correct. And no more Quebec Prime Ministers.

Art Rowe

@Tarl Cabbot

LEFT or RIGHT?
That is the question, which side of his mouth is he speaking out of?

Artie Gibson

@Daryl McBride

The Cash Filled Brown Paper Bag Association rules.

Jamie Gillis

@Daryl McBride

The uselessness of having Lametti there is rather apparent, from what I can see. Anything to do with the heart of the matter, that is anything between JWR and the PMO, he is only saying he confirm whether any particular meetings even occurred, let alone comment on them. I would think the only questions of possible use might be when he was notified that Trudeau wanted to make him the new AG, if he had any information as to why JWR was being removed, and if the SNC Lavalin affair was brought up in those discussions or other meetings since.

Tarl Cabbot

@Art Rowe

It is like a game of "Survivor"
Lamentti will protect himself first, and then the PMO, and then SNC

I am sure none of those three lean neither left nor right, but aim toward self preservation, power and profit.

Jamie Gillis

@Jamie Gillis

saying he can't confirm*

Matt Thuaii

@Daryl McBride

If this is such a massive travesty of justice, and our government is just so compromised, why don’t you take a crack at explaining why SNC Lavalin didn’t get what it wanted in the end?

I’ll go get my popcorn.

Matt Thuaii

@Peter Boone

The Conservatives must think Canadians can be cowed like sheep if they think this obvious political attack will resonate all the way to the election...

...scratch that...with all the foreign attacks via social media, shady practices of right-wing funded PR firms, and the willingness of the Conservatives to appeal to the worst in people, it just might.

Matt Thuaii

@Chris Harris

He sounds poorly informed...

...or maybe just well funded.

Doug James

@Daryl McBride
This is the new open and transparent Liberal government promised! Do you realize how totally closed and shadowed it was before? Now if we can only get those pesky independent internet sites to stop reporting their version of truth, we could all be full of bliss!

Ryan Tasker

@Daryl McBride
Welcome to politics 101... you don't actually have to have proof of wrongdoings to take down your opponents, you simply have to accuse them of something then watch as they scramble.

Leslie Rowen

@Daryl McBride

Justin Trudeau is what happened to Canada. The good news is that the broken parts can be replaced in October.

Troy Mann

@Daryl McBride

When the witch hunt starts to fall apart as truth comes out conservatives will continue to ignore the facts and sling mud no matter.

Sam Uekel

@Daryl McBride

Cons would do the same thing. The sooner lap dogs from either spectrum of the political scale realize this the sooner they can make clear headed decisions come election time.

Jack Johnson

@Daryl McBride Are we pretending this is something new in Canada?

Bryan Danielson

@Daryl McBride

the answer you're looking for is defined in your statement.

Matt Thuaii

@Ryan Tasker

...or in this case, watching as they provide comprehensive, logical answers to ludicrous, baseless charges from anonymous sources...

...fanned by opposition parties obviously and shamelessly trolling for votes.

Troy Mann

@Daryl McBride

Michael Wernick served under Harper as Deputy Minister of aboriginal and northern affairs for 10 years...

Waiting for cons to call him out as a "Liberal" as their witch hunt falls a part

Karen King

@Matt Thuaii

OMG yes, this has nothing to do with SNC and all to do with the desperate cons...

roger murphy

@Troy Mann

Switch hitter?

Edward Peter

@Daryl McBride
The Head Of the Privy Council, is a 37 year apolitical person, has worked for Both governments, so saying he is Bias, is just wrong.
He said the G&M report is full of holes, and he was there.
Lisa did not Grill anybody, just tried to get people to agree with her view, which they did NOT.

Gerald Girard

@Daryl McBride

Let the woman speak.

Edward Peter

@Tarl Cabbot
I should have watch the Questioning on CPAC, like I did. 

You are wrong.

Jack Slate

Wernick testimony seems to be self serving as he admits to having a discussion with JWR on the snc file and the "context" of the prosecution. Sounds like he's just defending himself rather than having this all seeing proof that nothing wrong was done.

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David Amos

@Troy Mann "Michael Wernick served under Harper as Deputy Minister of aboriginal and northern affairs for 10 years"

Methinks I should double dog dare you to ask me why I am well aware of that fact N'esy Pas?

Edward Peter

@Leslie Rowen
By a young man, that is running what position 4 premiers handed him and a Faulty news story, great Platform.

Gerald Girard

@Daryl McBride

The fact that SNC-Lavalin were able to lobby for changes that would save them from prosecution is really all I need to know how this played out.

David Amos

@Troy Mann "Waiting for cons to call him out as a "Liberal" as their witch hunt falls a part"

In the "Mean" time methinks anyone can Google Michael Wernick and David Amos N'esy Pas?

Scotty Davidson

@Daryl McBride Omnibus budgets happened, change our laws with no debate or input to or from Canadians.

bill laplante

@Matt Thuaii Because she got fired for the decision

Karen King

@bill laplante

nope, no one got fired, just posting what you are told??

Matt Parks

@Daryl McBride: You can't honestly think any other party would've done things differently? Every single federal government, at least in my lifetime, has had some kind of a scandal like this and tried to cover it up.... What happened to Canada? Nothing. Same old, same old.

David Allan

@Daryl McBride

That's one way to declare you don't understand how committees are formed in parliament.

Welcome to Canada.
Learn how your country works.

David Allan

@Daryl McBride

He's a Conservative.

Michael Wernick

Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet

Deputy Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development
In office
May 5, 2006[2] – July 11, 2014

Bob Hull

@Daryl McBride

They learned well from Secret Steve and the gang.

Troy Mann

@Jay michael

Baseless accusations are weak

Phil K'Mee

@Daryl McBride

Liberals.

David Amos

@Troy Mann "Baseless accusations are weak"

Methinks you ignoring my replies is even weaker Too bad so sad for all that one went "Poof" already N'esy Pas?

Art Rowe

@Daryl McBride
Canada's top public servant says he is worried someone will be assassinated during the coming federal election campaign given the disturbing tenor of recent public discussion.
Humm, more serious than discussing just SNC.

david mccaig

@Daryl McBride

"Top (INDEPENDENT)civil servant slams SNC-Lavalin media report as erroneous, 'defamatory'. SEEMS we have Russaians meddling in elections again

david mccaig

@Daryl McBride

IF JESUS himself said " SNC-Lavalin media report as erroneous, 'defamatory'", these conservatives wouldn't believe, mostly because they wouldn't want to believe.

david mccaig

@Daryl McBride
AS for Gerald Butts walking , who knows , long time friends can have spats that damage their relationship.

david mccaig

@Daryl McBride

Either way, unless he was Trudeau was to take a gun and shoot someone like Donald says he can with impunity, Canadians will forgive him, because the thought of a Harper government back in power is too much to bare.

Dennis Quaid

@david mccaig how much do you make as a liberal spinster?

david mccaig

@Dennis Quaid

Quote "david mccaig how much do you make as a liberal spinster?"

My friend I wish i could get paid for this, but liberal government are more honest than most and don't need MANUFACTURE consent like some party's do.

David Amos

@Dennis Quaid "how much do you make as a liberal spinster?"

Whereas your brother owes me a favour let me know if you get an answer will ya?

Dennis Quaid

@david mccaig That implication is very interesting, it would be nice if there was some truth to it, however, like the current liberal government, it's shrouded in deception and lies.

Fred Rickert

@Artie Gibson

Wrong party. That was the Conservatives.

Troy Mann

@Daryl McBride

Conservatives wanted answers and when they dont like the answers they get they attack an honorable man. 

Based on conservatives attacking him here, I hope the RCMP are protecting him 

I quote: 
"Those are the words that lead to assassination," he said. "I'm worried that somebody's going to get shot this year during the political campaign."

Gloria Wangler

@Daryl McBride Liberals are guilty and Canadians know it.

John Smith

@Troy Mann Yes what a dramatic and over the top attempt to inspire fear and sympathy with that assassination comment. So pathetic

James Rielly

@Gloria Wangler Nobody "knows".Gee!what are you,judge ,jury and witness?

David Amos

@Daryl McBride Methinks somebody should take this old lawyer off to the funny farm for a rest or at least turn off the mike Nesy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tasker-michael-wernick-partisan-going-be-shot-1.5028503

"I worry about the rising tides of incitements to violence when people use terms like 'treason' and 'traitor' in open discourse. Those are the words that lead to assassination. I'm worried that somebody is going to be shot in this country this year during the political campaign," Wernick said.

david mccaig

@Daryl McBride

If conservatives cared one IOTA about Canadians they'd never allow a wreaking ball like Doug Ford to represent their party, but they don't and that's why in all their frustration , Ontarians were forced to support Doug Ford.

Jack Black

@Daryl McBride

Its called 'democratic backsliding'

david mccaig

@Daryl McBride

I come here everyday to counter what I think is a deliberate misinformation campaign and unwarranted attacks on OUR elected government, and what's more I believe the majority is being done by people who aren't even Canadians.

John Oaktree

@Daryl McBride

OMG!!! The Liberals are following the same rules the Conservatives did when they were in power!!!

david mccaig

@Daryl McBride

I'D like to APOLOGIZE to OUR Prime Minister for calling for him to step down , I got caught up in the wave of manufactured hysteria by infotainment outlets that call themselves NEWS

Dave Robertson

@Daryl McBride There is no evidence at all of any wrong doing. Now Doug Ford on the other hand has scandals on a weekly basis. Why is he still in office?

david mccaig

@Daryl McBride

AND I take OFFENCE tthose that come here every and take POT SHOTS at our ELECTED government, for nothing more than to be contrary. I also take great offence at those that come here and imply all politicians are self, , WHICH couldn't any further from the truth. This whole THEME to villainize politicians, is a deliberate attempt to undermine all democracies, for the pleasure of those who'll most likely benefit by it.

Scotty Davidson

@Dave Robertson He changed our criminal code in a omnibus budget so corporations can break our laws and avoid prosecution. Perhaps you think subverting democracy like that isn't wrong, but I and many others do.

Scotty Davidson

@Dave Robertson It was wrong when Harper did it, it is worse when Trudeau does it... he campaigned on running a open and transparent government. 500+ omnibus budgets are not transparent.

Moira Wilkinson

@Daryl McBride
Codswallop! He has worked for several governments over the yeast

joseph dover

@Daryl McBride ...and you wondered how they became the 'natural' governing party over time....

James Holden

@Daryl McBride

Wernick is a Conservative.
He was an Conservative MP from 2006- 2014

Darren MacDonald

@James Holden That's a big facepalm, what riding did he represent? For $1000 Alex, I'll take fake news.

Robyn Fisher

@James Holden

That is incorrect, James.

James Rielly

@David Amos Why?One only has to look at the USA to see the violence incited by hyper partisanship and it doesn't take long to find examples.

david mccaig

@Daryl McBride

ONE of the reasons we here in Canada and the United States have such APATHETIC bunch of wilfully uninformed voters , is because in the US CIVICS CLASSES have all been done away with and here in Canada its anemic to say the best AND in both cases I think this deliberate.

david mccaig

@Daryl McBride

I BELIEVE polling corporations are set up by the establishment to MANUFACTURE CONSENSUS and CONSENT, kinda a biased CHEAT SHEET for low information Canadians.

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David Amos

@James Rielly "One only has to look at the USA to see the violence incited by hyper partisanship and it doesn't take long to find example"

Trust that Mr Wernick knows that I have been investigating murder on both sides of the 49th for many years. Google David Amos wiretap

David Amos

@James Rielly FYI I replied but the powers that be did not want you to read it

David Amos

@James Rielly Google T-1557-15 scroll down to paragraph 83

Ben Robinson

What a circus this has become. The Trudeau Liberals are playing Canadians for fools.

Troy Mann

@Ben Robinson

Conservatives love a good witch hunt

Ben Robinson

@Troy Mann ... So this is all about ... nothing?

Time will tell. But, there sure is a LOT of smoke.

Ryan Tasker

@Ben Robinson
This is the game of politics, kiddo.
It doesn't change regardless of who is in power... the game just cycles.
Get used to it. The electorate is played for fools every 1 to 4 years... and most of the electorate are so politically unintelligent, they fall for it.

Troy Mann

@Ben Robinson

Smoke is easily manufactured by propagandist

Jennifer McIsaac

@Ben Robinson

I think it is the Conservative opposition and the media that are playing Canadians for fools as there is absolutely no evidence of malfeasance.

Matt Thuaii

@Ben Robinson

So far this looks positively pedestrian, no Liberals appear to have done anything wrong based on the facts so far, and yet the Conservatives and the internet brigades who support them can’t stop screaming their heads off about all this...

...me thinks they doth protest too much.

Edward Peter

@Ben Robinson
How? The Cons are doing all the talking, that is where the skylarking is coming from, at the cost of your taxes.

David Allan

@Ben Robinson

I prefer to wait until the actual facts come forth.

What cracks me up most about the right-wing is that when something like this comes out about themselves they call it fake news and say if the source were credible they wouldn't be anonymous.

Shoe, welcome to the other foot.

Karen King

@Jennifer McIsaac

actually they are playing some as fools, fortunately there are still many that see what's going on.... as the cons dig the pit for themselves, I'll be happy once the election is over....seems some are willing to stoop too low for my taste...

Karen King

@Matt Thuaii

nice to see there are some of us that know what Andy is up to....

David Allan

@Ben Robinson

He's a Conservative.

Michael Wernick
Deputy Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development
In office
May 5, 2006 – July 11, 2014

Ben Robinson

@David Allan ... Yes ... facts. Those truths that the Trudeau Liberals are obviously trying to hide.

How Liberals can continue to be sanctimonious about all of this is beyond me. Actually, with a Trudeau in the PMO, perhaps not.

Edith Grey

@David Allan
You are making a seriously flawed assumption. Again, we go to civics - maybe even the grade 5 version. Deputy Ministers are civil servants....not political appointees. The Minister is the politician. Deputy Ministers do not get switched out if party control changes.

Troy Mann

@Edith Grey " The Minister is the politician. Deputy Ministers do not get switched out if party control changes."

The deputy Minister works in the department at the whim of the minister.

david mccaig

@Ben Robinson

LONG BEFORE these SNC-Lavalin ACCUSATIONS came out, the same bunch that are here today go on about 'bad,bad, Trudeau is bad , really bad' and you've got to know any reasonable honest coherent political party would expect this from their members.

david mccaig

@Ben Robinson

Conservatives CROW about their minuscule poll numbers rising, when the truth they NEVER break 40%, not even close and that's taking into account the LEFT VOTE is SPLIT between the liberals , the NDP and the Green Party, which in the United States the Russian boiler rooms were supporting the American Green Party to siphon votes away from HILLARY CLINTON , not because the RUSSIANS love the Green Party, but because they knew any votes directed at an opposing party , no matter who, it is would be lost on the leading contender.

David Amos

@Ben Robinson "What a circus this has become"

Methinks everybody knows how much I love the circus N'esy Pas?

James Holden

@Ben Robinson

It's beginning to look like it was the Conservatives trying to play the public for fools by blowing this out of all proportion.

david mccaig 

 @Ben Robinson

And BELIEVE ME when I'm commenting I'm supporting a man who has made many blunders as far as I'm concerned , some INSINCERE like his two faces of supporting the Paris accord on climate change , then returning to not only give an OK to a new tar sands pipeline TRIPLING the Tar Sands output, but he bought it with OUR tax dollars( didn't see cons screaming about that one) and then turns to the tar Sands that are wreaking an environmental DISASTER in our far North and exporting one of the dirtiest most polluting oil on the planet, not to mention the Tar Sands are NORTH AMERICAS NUMBER ONE source of air pollution.

harry richard

@Ben Robinson ... and using tax dollars to do it.

harry richard

@harry richard ... maybe regular Haitians are correct

Mark Walen Cooper

@Ben Robinson - the contract to build the Champlain bridge was awarded in April 2015 when Conservatives were in power. SNC-Lavalin faced criminal corruption charges over activities in Libya at the time. So where does this place everyone? Just saying.

Irv Millar 

@david mccaig That is where a free press is essential. To earn the title of Journalist, the individual must first have a desire to be impartial in their reports. Once the Journalist compromises this ethical obligation to society, they become mere reporters of facts that they are told to report upon or create. Propaganda, disinformation or a litany of other negatives are the spawn of these non-democratic actions. Such actions can cause uncertainty or chaos and is a dark influence in our democratic process.

joseph dover

@Ben Robinson ...some are easily played too...

James Rielly

@James Holden Maybe that was the plan :)

David Amos

@Irv Millar "Propaganda, disinformation or a litany of other negatives are the spawn of these non-democratic actions. Such actions can cause uncertainty or chaos and is a dark influence in our democratic process."

So did I run in the election of the 42nd Parliament while suing the Queen or didn't I?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

David Amos

@James Rielly "Maybe that was the plan :)"

Methinks it must be a pretty good plan if they can fool Mr Butts into quitting his fancy job mere months before an election N'esy Pas?

Chris Spiers

He has nothing of value since he was not the AG during the time of question.

What he does bring is more Liberal rhetoric

Tarl Cabbot

@Chris Spiers

Ya know, I tend to slant a bit toward the left. Kind of like sitting on the fence and slightly over . . .

But this pony show serves to reinforce my notion that it doesn't matter what flavour of political party has or doesn't have power.
It is the corporations, the elite, the parasites of society who run the government.

Matt Thuaii

@Tarl Cabbot

If you’ve lost the ability to see the difference between the parties...if you’ve truly lost faith in our government thanks to this manufactured scandal...

...you haven’t been paying nearly enough attention.

Tarl Cabbot

@Matt Thuaii

Matt, you are part right. I am in the side lines, and while I do see differences in the various party ideologies, I do have trouble differentiating the long term visions amongst them.

One thing is very clear to me.
Not much will change in the life of a typical Canadian regardless of who sits in the big chair on the hill.

Money makes money, and the small people scramble for any crumbs that might fall about then turn it over as taxes to under pin the big game of politics.

Neil Turv

@Tarl Cabbot

Well said, the reality is you give any party power and people within that party will abuse it. What is happening now is no different from uncountable previous scenarios under any government.

- Media outlet files a report, protects the source (cornerstone of journalism and a free and fair society.)
- Opposition partie(s) use it to enhance their own appeal, make the sitting government look bad.
- Insecure supporters of the accused insist it's unique, unfair and baseless.
- Ideally the appropriate investigative bodies looks into it and reports the findings.

It happens to every sitting government, and will continue to happen when the next guy replaces Trudeau, whenever that will be.

Troy Mann

@Chris Spiers

How about Michael Wernick? Deputy Minister of aboriginal and northern affairs for the entire tenure of Harper...

Clearly a "liberal" right so you can keep the witch hunt going

Matt Thuaii

@Tarl Cabbot

Look up the definitions of “left wing” and “right wing”.

The difference is, some politicians and parties believe they deserve to be in charge (and whether or not how they get there is ethical or moral, that’s how it should be).

Edward Peter

@Chris Spiers
Why did the Cons want him as a Witness, they know the game?

Karen King

@Tarl Cabbot

hmmm, not so sure, some of the issues I am concerned about are in jeopardy under the cons...for example the right for a woman to chose whether or not to have an abortion....Andy is against that but says he will not make changes, but he will probably stop funding like Trumpy....these are the big differences between the parties.

Normally I go with the best person when I vote but for the last decade it's been simply anti con as from where I sit they are going to do the most harm to the majority of people.

David Allan

@Chris Spiers

Do you know what the Privy Council is?
Grade 10 civics.

Neil Turv

@Karen King

If any government touches abortion rights on a federal level I will eat my hat, and I'm so confident about that I'll eat every other persons hat who wants to donate it to my meals.

Scheer might pay lip service to back benchers to appease SoCons, but every politician knows how to count and if you look at the latest Canadian polls for Pro Choice vs Pro Life it's not a battle worth fighting.

Kerry Thurston

@David Allan

He’s only ‘privy’ to Cabinet discussions .....and not PMO private discussions.
That’s really basic.

David Amos

@Chris Spiers "What he does bring is more Liberal rhetoric"

I agree

David Amos

@David Allan "Do you know what the Privy Council is?"

Have you ever spoken with Paul Shuttle? Trust that I have.

Chris Spiers

@David Amos

So that and a quarter lets you make a phone call

David Amos

@Chris Spiers True but would that lawyer talk to you?

Chris Spiers

@David Amos
The question is why would I Want to talk to him?

David Amos

@Chris Spiers Why do you bother publishing opinions about his boss?

Mark Lack

The Liberals on this committee have let down the people of Canada.

Charles O'Neill

@Mark Lack Unfortunately allegiance to the party is more important than allegiance to the country

Ryan Tasker

@Charles O'Neill
Ha! You people think you vote for a local representative? Hasn't been that way in well over 100 years. They're all smitten to their party.

Jennifer McIsaac

@Charles O'Neill

Yes, that is why the opposition are making such a meal of what is a case where there is no evidence of wrong doing.

Meantime Canada suffers,

Aaron Morris

@Jennifer McIsaac

The opposition is making the biggest deal of the fact that the Liberal's are suppressing testimony from the only one who can really say what happened.

That is indisputable.

Karen King

@Aaron Morris

no it's not Jody is doing her own suppressing...if you think Trudeau is not dying for her to clear this up you are sadly mistaken...

Jack O Hill

@Karen King

"no it's not Jody is doing her own suppressing...if you think Trudeau is not dying for her to clear this up you are sadly mistaken..."

Both Martin and Harper waived privilege. Time for Trudeau to do the same, if he is so keen to have her speak her peace.

David Amos

@Mark Lack "The Liberals on this committee have let down the people of Canada."

Methinks most of peoplekind expected this nonsense N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Jack O Hill YUP

Bob Lashram

What a farce...

wal wiseman

@george bath fake news, nothing to see here. Move along...lol

Troy Mann

@Bob Lashram

Total farce all based on an anonymous source. Witch hunts are called witch hunts because they are a farce.

Byron Whitford

@Troy Mann

God you guys sound like Trump.

David Amos

@Bob Lashram Welcome to the Circus

 
AnneClarke

You have to be pretty daft to believe anything will come from Lametti testifying, he wasn't even there! Liberals investigating Liberals, how stupid do they think we are?

Ronald Canell

@AnneClarke thats why he is testifying

Troy Mann

@AnneClarke

How about Michael Wernick? You going to call Harpers deputy Minister of aboriginal and northern affairs for 10 years a liberal?

Edith Grey

@Troy Mann
Again, we go to civics - maybe even the grade 5 version. Deputy Ministers are civil servants....not political appointees. The Minister is the politician. Deputy Ministers do not get switched out if party control changes.

Erin Holloway

@Edith Grey Deputy Ministers may not be political appointees but they often are changed when governments changed. Compare a list of deputy ministers before and after any election - at both the federal and provincial levels - and you will see deputy ministers moving from one department to another or even leaving public service all together. The last provincial election in Alberta is a good example. Many of the long serving deputy ministers left the government after the NDP government was elected.

David Amos

@AnneClarke "Liberals investigating Liberals, how stupid do they think we are?"

Methinks they think we are as stupid as they are N'esy Pas?

 
Jerry MaGuire

RCMP investigation the only way forward. Yesterday's info confirms JWR was contacted after prosecutors decided SNC would not qualify for any deal. Criminality.

Jeff hunt

@Jerry MaGuire your faith in the ponies is misguided.

Jennifer McIsaac

@Jerry MaGuire

Rubbish. There is no crime in anyone contacting JWR if they did not pressure her.

Troy Mann

@Jerry MaGuire

RCMP investigations require evidence not anonymous source.

Karen King

@Jerry MaGuire

so this all turns out to be nothing that would be a tremendous waste of resources, can't you at least wait until Jody has her say??

Aaron Morris

@Karen King

We would all love for Jody to have her say, except for the PMO whom won't waive privilege as they are all terrified.

David Amos

@Jerry MaGuire "RCMP investigation the only way forward."

Methinks there is no need for the RCMP to investigate political party infighting The court of public opinion held on polling day this October should resolve the matter anyway N'esy Pas?

 
Daryl McBride

Lametti should resign as well, clearly not working for Canada.

george bath

@Daryl McBride
what would make it clearer for you?

Daryl McBride

@george bath Watch the show, embarrassing.

Gary Norton

@george bath some actual answers.

Gord Gundersen

@george bath He has to answer who is the client that can waive privilege, but he won't, so it seems he is not working for Canadian who want answers. Either he knows and will not answer or he is incompetent and needs to step down so someone who knows who the client is can give us an answer.

James Fitzgibbon

@Daryl McBride

Because you disagree with him, he should resign. And who are you, exactly?

Troy Mann

@James Fitzgibbon

Daryl wants everyone to resign other than conservatives and for there to never be an election after conservative assume power.

David Allan

@Daryl McBride

Everyone you don't like should resign.
Regardless of reality.
Understood.

David Amos

@Daryl McBride "Watch the show, embarrassing."

Methinks whereas our taxes are funding this circus you might as well kick back and just enjoy the show N'esy Pas?

 
Maxim Verite

For years I've said Trudeau is probably a nice man, but just not bright enough for the job.

Now, he's convinced me he's not a nice man at all.

And, he's still not qualified.

george bath

@Maxim Verite
nothing else credible to attack so go after the PM

Stephen McIntyre

@Maxim Verite - Oh.. you've got a feeling. Let's go with that. Who needs evidence?

John Smith

@Maxim Verite Hopefully you'll remember in the future that often times those who appear overly nice are simply using it to mask their true nature.

Maxim Verite

@Stephen McIntyre

Evidently not the Liberals, since they're so actively suppressing it

Tom Abbott

@george bath
Nothing else credible....are you for real. Read the news. George...its full of credible government ethics blunders.

John Smith

@Maxim Verite beware those that don the mask of purity and virtue to disguise the fact they are conniving and wicked. It's how priests got away with abusing children for so long(still do) it's how JT tricked many into handing the wheel to a man without morals or conscience.

Fenn Edwards

@Maxim Verite

The exact same can be said about Stephen Harper.

David Amos

@John Smith Oh So True

 
bill chagwich

does anyone believe Lametti???

Tarl Cabbot

@bill chagwich

Can anyone understand the reams of legal baffle-gab spewing from him?

george bath

@bill chagwich
I do bill
I respect the process

Cecil Row

@Tarl Cabbot In brief he is only saying it depends-legalize for we get to do what we want.

Richard Riel

@bill chagwich Does anybody believe the law and not justice of trudeau?

Tarl Cabbot

@george bath

I think most Canadians respect the process.
I think most Canadians believe, that, the process established, is a core base element for building a civilised society.

The allegations against Lavalin are evidence that a privileged select few have undue influence to change the process.

How can you believe Lametti, when he speaks incomprehensible legalese?

Tim Joseph

@bill chagwich Guess not the yellow vests.

David Allan

@bill chagwich
"oes anyone believe Lametti???"

He's a Conservative.

Deputy Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development

In office
May 5, 2006[2] – July 11, 2014

Garth Buhr

@David Allan You are thinking of the wrong person.

Jack O Hill

@David Allan

"Deputy Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development "

That identifies him as a senior bureaucrat. It does NOT identify political affiliation.

David Amos

@bill chagwich "does anyone believe Lametti???"

When was the last time you believed a lawyer?

Top civil servant slams SNC-Lavalin media report as erroneous, 'defamatory'

Privy Council Office clerk Michael Wernick delivers blunt testimony at justice committee

Kathleen Harris· CBC News· Posted: Feb 21, 2019 10:28 AM ET

Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick appeared before the Justice Committee meeting in Ottawa, Thursday February 21, 2019. (Adrian Wyld/THE CANADIAN PRESS)


Canada's top civil servant has refuted a bombshell media report that alleged political interference in the criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin, claiming it included "errors" and "unfounded speculation" and was "defamatory."

Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick was referring to a Feb. 7 Globe and Mail report that touched off a political scandal and triggered the resignation of cabinet minister Jody Wilson-Raybould and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's principal secretary, Gerry Butts.

"I'm here to say to you that the Globe and Mail article contains errors, unfounded speculation and, in some cases, is simply defamatory," he said.

The article — citing unnamed, anonymous sources — said that Trudeau's aides attempted to press Wilson-Raybould, while attorney general, to intervene in the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin, and that exasperation with her lack of co-operation was one reason for shuffling her out of the justice portfolio.

Wernick said he never witnessed any inappropriate pressure on Wilson-Raybould by Trudeau or any officials in the PMO.

CBC News

Full statement by Michael Wernick

 ‘I'm here to say to you that the Globe and Mail article contains errors, unfounded speculation and, in some cases, is simply defamatory,’ Wernick, Clerk of the Privy Council, said. 5:31

"At every opportunity, verbally and in writing in December, the prime minister made it clear that this was the decision for the minister of justice to take. She was the decision-maker," he said.

Wernick, who met with representatives of SNC-Lavalin on Sept. 18, 2018 — after the company had been turned down on its request to avoid criminal proceedings — said the firm was "making the rounds" to make a pitch to avoid prosecution. He said he could not remember whether the company advised him that it had been told the Public Prosecution Service of Canada had rejected its request.

In a Dec. 19, 2018 call with Wilson-Raybould, Wernick said he provided information on the SNC-Lavalin file based partly on reports in the business press warning the company could close or move if the prosecution went ahead. That could have major implications for employees, suppliers and pensioners, he said.

"I can tell you with complete assurance that my view of those conversations is that they were within the boundaries of what's lawful and appropriate. I was informing the minister of context. She may have another view of the conversation, but that's something the ethics commissioner could sort out," he said.

Wernick repeatedly insisted there was no inappropriate pressure placed on Wilson-Raybould at any time — but if she felt that she was being put under pressure, she could have filed a complaint with the ethics commissioner or reported any perceived wrongdoing to the prime minister.

In his opening remarks to the committee, Wernick said he's worried about the state of politics in Canada right now, citing the threat of foreign interference in the coming election and the use of words like 'treason' and 'traitor' in political discourse.

"Those are the words that lead to assassination," he said. "I'm worried that somebody's going to get shot this year during the political campaign."

Earlier today, Justice Minister and Attorney General David Lametti told the committee he has never faced inappropriate pressure from the prime minister or anyone in the PMO, and would take action if any official tried to direct his actions improperly.

In the hot seat as the first witness in justice committee hearings on the SNC-Lavalin affair, Lametti said he would not "speculate" on "what others might or might not do" but would only explain how he would respond to political pressure.

"I would take, under the circumstances, a number of different actions," he said.

Trudeau appointed Lametti to the post in a January cabinet shuffle that demoted Wilson-Raybould from the Department of Justice to Veterans Affairs.

She resigned from that position a week later, just days after the Globe and Mail reported that she had been pressured by officials in the Prime Minister's Office to stop criminal prosecution against SNC-Lavalin, a Quebec-based global engineering and construction firm facing charges of bribery and fraud related to contracts in Libya.

• Timeline: SNC-Lavalin and Jody Wilson-Raybould

• Analysis
  First post-SNC-Lavalin polls look bad for Trudeau Liberals

The Globe and Mail said PMO officials pressed her to direct the Public Prosecution Service of Canada to draft a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) — a legal tool resembling a plea deal — for SNC-Lavalin.

The Liberal government changed the Criminal Code in 2018 to introduce such remediation agreements as an option for cases of corporate wrongdoing in Canada.

Lametti said the legislative regime was addressing a perceived "gap" in the law and is meant to hold corporations to account while protecting bystanders who could be harmed by a criminal prosecution and possible bankruptcy — such as a corporation's employees, subcontractors and third-party suppliers.

Similar compliance tools — which can impose fines in lieu of prosecution — are also available in the U.S. and the U.K.

Lametti said he only had general knowledge of the SNC-Lavalin case before he was appointed to cabinet and did not discuss it with Trudeau before his appointment.

Nathalie Drouin, deputy justice minister and deputy attorney general also appeared at the committee.

• Can Wilson-Raybould claim solicitor-client privilege over SNC-Lavalin? The jury's out

Conservative deputy leader and justice critic Lisa Raitt pointed to a Globe and Mail report published today which says Wilson-Raybould told federal cabinet ministers Tuesday she believed it was improper for PMO officials to press her to help SNC-Lavalin avoid criminal prosecution.

Wilson-Raybould took the unprecedented step of requesting permission to address cabinet, and was allowed to do so after vigorous debate among ministers.
Raitt said if the account in the Globe and Mail is accurate, Lametti has a responsibility to act.

"If he believes a former attorney general was improperly pressured — he has testimony of that from her, as was being reported by the Globe and Mail — then he has a greater burden than being loyal to the cabinet. At that point in time he's got a loyalty to the country," she told CBC News.

Polling fallout

The political fallout since the Feb. 7 Globe and Mail report has been heavy for the Trudeau government.

The opposition Conservatives and NDP have called for a public inquiry and have demanded Trudeau waive solicitor-client privilege so Wilson-Raybould can speak freely on the matter during her appearance before the committee, expected sometime next week.

The CBC's Poll Tracker, an aggregation of all publicly available polls, shows the scandal is taking a toll on the Liberals. It puts the Liberals and Conservatives neck-and-neck in voting intentions and virtually tied in the number of seats each party would be likely to win if an election were held today.

On Wednesday, Wilson-Raybould abstained from a vote in the House of Commons on an NDP motion calling for an inquiry because she was personally involved in the matter. She said she can't waive client-solicitor privilege on her own.

"I understand fully that Canadians want to know the truth and want transparency," she said. "Privilege and confidentiality are not mine to waive, and I hope that I have the opportunity to speak my truth."
Raitt said she is convinced public pressure will mount for a public inquiry.

During an event in Halifax Thursday, Trudeau said he remains "surprised and disappointed" by Wilson-Raybould's resignation from cabinet. He cited cabinet confidentiality and said the government is working to create good jobs and protect an independent judiciary.

"We will always do that in the right way," he said.

Lametti said the issue of waiving solicitor-client privilege is "complexed and layered." He said he is seeking a way to ensure transparency and fairness without compromising cabinet confidentiality or legal proceedings, but could not say if he would made a decision before Wilson-Raybould appears at committee..

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'Somebody is going to be shot': Top bureaucrat says partisan mudslinging has gone too far

'I'm deeply concerned about my country right now and its politics,' Michael Wernick says

John Paul Tasker· CBC News· Posted: Feb 21, 2019 5:03 PM ET

Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick waits to appear before the Justice Committee meeting in Ottawa, Thursday February 21, 2019. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Canada's most senior federal public servant says he is worried about the nation and the state of its political discourse — fearing it has sunk to such lows that it could lead to an assassination attempt during the next federal election campaign.

Michael Wernick, the clerk of the Privy Council of Canada — the man tasked with serving the prime minister and his cabinet — prefaced his testimony on the SNC-Lavalin affair with commentary on what he describes as a "vomitorium of social media" fuelled by unreasonable partisans who have been dangerously whipped up by politicians.

"I'm deeply concerned about my country right now and its politics and where it's headed," Wernick told the Commons justice committee today.

It is unusual for a civil servant of his stature to speak so candidly in such a public forum.

Wernick, a career public servant who has worked in senior roles under both Conservative and Liberal prime ministers, said he finds recent remarks by Conservative Saskatchewan Sen. David Tkachuk at a recent rally particularly distasteful.

CBC News

Full statement by Michael Wernick

 ‘I'm here to say to you that the Globe and Mail article contains errors, unfounded speculation and, in some cases, is simply defamatory,’ Wernick, Clerk of the Privy Council, said. 5:31

While addressing the "United We Roll" convoy of Alberta truckers who travelled to Ottawa this week, Tkachuk said, "I know you've rolled all the way here, and I'm going to ask you one more thing: I want you to roll over every Liberal left in the country."

Tkachuk said that only then would two particularly controversial pieces of legislation — Bill C-48, the B.C. north coast tanker ban bill, and Bill C-69, the overhaul of environmental assessment legislation — be withdrawn.
"Because when they're gone, these bills are gone," he said.

While he didn't mention Tkachuk by name, Wernick made it clear that he was directing his comments at the senator.

"I think it's totally unacceptable that a member of the Parliament of Canada would incite people to drive trucks over people after what happened in Toronto last summer. Totally unacceptable. And I hope you, as parliamentarians, are going to condemn that," Wernick said.

In a statement to CBC News, Tkachuk said that while his comments "may not have been as artful" as he would have liked, he will not apologize for them.

The Saskatchewan senator said Liberals have "manufactured outrage" over his remarks in order to distract from the government's record on the oil and gas industry.

"When I said I wanted them to roll over every single Liberal, I meant it figuratively, not literally. I was referring to defeating every single Liberal in the upcoming election. I was not advocating violence and I think everybody knows that, except those for whom it serves a purpose to interpret them otherwise. Certainly the people at the rally knew what I meant," Tkachuk said in his statement.

"I know you've rolled all the way here, and I'm going to ask you one more thing: I want you to roll over every Liberal left in the country," Conservative Sen. David Tkachuk said at the United We Roll convoy rally in Ottawa, Ont. (Fred Chartrand/Canadian Press)

"It was a figure of speech. And just as the Minnesota defensive line, known as the 'purple people eaters', didn't actually eat people, and the Denver Broncos''orange crush' didn't actually crush people, and the Pittsburgh Steelers''steel curtain' offensive line wasn't actually steel, neither did I mean Liberals should be literally rolled over."

Wernick also took issue with the use of terms like "treason" and "traitor" to describe Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

There were placards and signs at the "United We Roll" rally that accused Trudeau of treason over his perceived disdain for the energy sector and his government's policies on immigration and asylum — policies described by some of those protests signs as embracing "open borders."

A protester stands below Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Wednesday, February 20, 2019. A convoy of angry Albertans and other westerners rolled up to Parliament Hill for a second day to protest federal energy and environmental policies. (Fred Chartrand/Canadian Press)

"I worry about the rising tides of incitements to violence when people use terms like 'treason' and 'traitor' in open discourse. Those are the words that lead to assassination. I'm worried that somebody is going to be shot in this country this year during the political campaign," Wernick said.

The senior bureaucrat also defended Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett against critics who have been claiming online that she's ill-equipped to handle the Indigenous reconciliation file, saying nobody else in Canada has done more to advance reconciliation with Indigenous peoples than the Toronto-area minister.

• The 9 faces at the centre of the Jody Wilson-Raybould, PMO affair

• Timeline: SNC-Lavalin and Jody Wilson-Raybould

Wernick said he also fears the SNC-Lavalin affair — and allegations published in the Globe and Mail that senior members of the Prime Minister's Office inappropriately pressured former justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould to cut a deal with the Quebec-based company so that it could avoid criminal prosecution —  will shake the faith of Canadians in their public institutions.

"Should Canadians be concerned about the rule of law in this country? No," Wernick said.

"I'm here to say to you that the Globe and Mail article contains errors, unfounded speculation and, in some cases, is simply defamatory."

Wernick testified Thursday he did not inappropriately influence Wilson-Raybould to pressure the director of public prosecutions to sign a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) with SNC-Lavalin. Trudeau and his former principal secretary, Gerry Butts — who resigned this week in response to the allegations — have also denied any wrongdoing.

Conservative MP Michelle Rempel chided Wernick for his remarks Thursday, saying he overstepped in criticizing Conservative parliamentarians and the convoy.

"To any public servant watching Wernick — do not use him as your model on how to be a non-partisan professional," she tweeted.

Rempel said his remarks were "purposely designed to deflect reporting" from the larger SNC-Lavalin matter. (The CBC News story about that portion of the meeting can be found here.)

• Top civil servant denies 'inappropriate' pressure against Wilson-Raybould in SNC-Lavalin case

• Timeline: SNC-Lavalin and Jody Wilson-Raybould

It's not Liberals alone who feel unfairly targeted by partisan vitriol. Conservative MPs have flagged previous remarks by Butts himself, Liberal MP Adam Vaughan and Finance Minister Bill Morneau (who was accused of calling Conservative deputy leader Lisa Raitt a "neanderthal") as wholly inappropriate.

Conserative MPs also have cited the prime minister's description of them as "ambulance chasers"— for questioning the transfer of child-killer Terri Lynne McClintic to a Saskatchewan healing lodge — as an unfair partisan potshot.

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Woman may lose home after learning New Brunswick Medicare won't cover Florida cancer surgery

Marilyn Steele's doctor should have checked domestic availability before seeing U.S. surgeon, province says

Catherine Harrop· CBC News· Posted: Feb 21, 2019 6:00 AM AT

Marilyn Steele's surgery bills from the U.S. totalled close to $144,000. New Brunswick Medicare won't pay, saying her doctor should have investigated Canadian options for surgery. (Submitted)


Marilyn Steele says she has her life back — but she and her husband may lose their home — after she underwent cancer surgery in Florida at the family's own cost because her doctor told them he and his colleagues agreed the procedure couldn't be done in New Brunswick or Nova Scotia.

Steele, 73, a resident of Nashwaak Bridge, about an hour outside Fredericton, had surgery in Tampa within days of her diagnosis in December. She now has $144,000 in surgery bills that the province of New Brunswick refuses to pay.

Her roller-coaster ride of pain and panic began on Dec. 7, when Dr. James Belyea gave her the news she had anaplastic thyroid cancer — a rare cancer that he said would kill her in months.

Steele said Belyea told her and her family there was nothing he could do for her, and then painted a terrifying picture of what she could expect at the end.

CBC News

Fredericton woman prepares to sell her home to pay for cancer treatment

 Family may lose home after learning Medicare won't cover lifesaving surgery 1:24

"The tests were showing that the tumours were invading my carotid artery," Steele said from Toronto, where she's just finished 40 rounds of radiation treatment.

"And he said the very last thing would be that that artery would rupture. And it would be very gruesome for my family to watch."

Steele said she asked the doctor, "'What about me?'" and that he responded: "'You'll bleed to death.'"

Steele is dealing with anaplastic thyroid cancer, a rare, fast-moving form of the disease that would kill her in months. (Submitted)

That's when Steele's daughter Lesley began asking questions as Belyea explained the horrifying diagnosis.

Steele's tumour was wrapped around the base of her carotid artery, which supplies blood to the brain, neck and face. Lesley said Belyea, an ear nose and throat specialist, and head and neck surgeon, told them he showed her mother's CT scan to other doctors but no one in New Brunswick or Nova Scotia could help.

"He just said, 'I would highly, highly encourage you to seek care elsewhere,'" Lesley said. 
The only other option offered to her was radiation and chemotherapy, which may have extended her life three to 12 months.

Dr. Gary Clayman is the Tampa, Fla., surgeon who performed the cancer surgery on her within days of her diagnosis in Canada. (Submitted)

48-hour deadline

Lesley said Belyea hadn't suggested where the Steeles should look for care. Being a veterinarian, she immediately started calling her own medical contacts and searching for anyone who might save her mother's life. Her search turned up surgeons in the U.S. and Europe, so she turned to ones in the U.S.

By the next morning, Lesley said, she had received a call back from Dr. Gary Clayman, a thyroid cancer surgeon in Tampa, who said he would see her mother, but it had to be soon, as the cells with her type of cancer divide rapidly.

"We had from 8:30 in the morning Saturday morning until Monday morning at 8 a.m. — so 48 hours we had to get to Tampa," she said.

A letter saying travel is never covered under New Brunswick Medicare unless all domestic options are exhausted. (CBC)

At the clinic in Florida, the Steeles pooled their credit cards, hoping their limits would cover the costs.
By Wednesday, Steele had undergone a successful seven-hour surgery, followed by 40 rounds of targeted radiation in Toronto, then daily chemotherapy pills for life.

Midway through radiation treatments in Toronto, Lesley heard that New Brunswick Medicare would not pay for any of her care in the U.S.

Prior approval

On Dec. 10, before Steele underwent surgery, Belyea had written a letter of support to New Brunswick Medicare for the family's choice to head to Florida. The letter said Steele "was not considered a surgical candidate in New Brunswick or Nova Scotia," mainly because the surgery was too complicated.

Belyea noted Clayman was one of the world's leading surgeons for the complicated surgery.
However, Dr. Zeljko Bolesnikov, the medical consultant to New Brunswick Medicare, read Belyea's letter on Jan. 3 and wrote back that out-of-country services are only covered if there is proof no Canadian centres could perform them.

In Steele's case, there wasn't any proof Belyea had tried to find out if other hospitals in Canada could do the procedure, Bolesnikov wrote.

After surgery, Steele needed 40 rounds of targeted radiation in Toronto and will have to take daily chemo pills for life. (Submitted)

In a second letter to New Brunswick Medicare, Belyea said he was unaware of any legislation that required him to call every centre in Canada to see if a surgeon could do the work.

"In the time it would've taken for Marilyn Steele to be assessed at every academic centre in Canada, she would have almost certainly died of airway obstruction or had distant metastasis," he wrote.

Bolesnikov replied that three hospitals — one each in Toronto, London, Ont., and Edmonton — could have done the surgery. He also said all other provinces agreed they wouldn't have approved a referral outside Canada.

From the Steele family's perspective, New Brunswick Medicare's refusal to cover the surgery appears to be punishing the patient for a doctor's failure to know or communicate Medicare rules. The family has appealed the decision.

"I'm very frustrated at what appears to be a technicality between someone claiming to not know the process and someone claiming that the process has to be followed in order for something to happen," said Lesley.

"Those two sides don't involve my mother at all."

Marilyn is receiving a monthly payment from New Brunswick Medicare for her medical stay in Toronto, and a GoFundMe campaign has raised more than $16,000 for the family.

Who pays?

The questions remains whether the Steeles are responsible for the out-of-country bills because their doctor didn't get pre-approval from New Brunswick Medicare.

Bolesnikov said it shouldn't have been left to the Steele family to check out other possibilities for surgery. Doctors, he said, are trained to check multiple centres of excellence.

The Steeles may have to sell their home in the country to pay for Marilyn's lifesaving surgery. (Catherine Harrop/CBC)

"You can't be a surgeon without knowing who does what in your field," he said in an interview.
In one of his letters to Belyea, Bolesnikov also said families should be made aware that "going outside the country will be their own responsibility."

Belyea did not return calls from the CBC.

Dr. Ed Schollenberg, registrar of the New Brunswick College of Physicians and Surgeons, said he hasn't seen a case quite like this one, where the cancer is extremely fast moving.

He said normally a wait of a few days or a week doesn't matter and allows time for pre-approval from New Brunswick Medicare. Schollenberg also said it has lists of doctors and their specialties, and can generally do the checking for the doctor.

He said the Department of Health has intervened to overrule some provincial Medicare decisions, but generally they involved coverage for expensive drugs.

Patient's health 'the priority'

New Brunswick Health Minister Ted Flemming did not agree to an interview, and said in an email he can't talk about specific cases.

"I can tell you that there is a formal process in place for out-of-country Medicare coverage which we are in the process of going through now. The health of any patient is always the priority."

Marilyn Steele speaks just above a whisper because of her surgery and radiation.

"We're not rich people," she said. "We're both retired on a small pension. And the only asset that we have is our home. And it's a very modest three-bedroom bungalow in the country."

Despite fears she will soon have to sell the house to cover her medical costs and perhaps move into an apartment, Steele smiled at the thought of returning to New Brunswick.

"Oh, just [to] look out my front window at the snowbanks. I just want to be home."

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Methinks everybody knows Gerald Butts doesn't hold a candle to me within Twitter N'esy Pas?


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David Amos 

@Mark Edmonson Methinks entitlement always superseded common sense. The liberal lawyer David Dingwall who hails from the same neck of the woods that Mr Butts and Mr Lynch former Depupty Minister of Finance and Clerk of the PCO said it in no uncertain terms many years ago. Dingwall bragged a lot right after Trudeau the Younger won his big mandate N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/dave-dingwall-information-morning-1.3307172

18 years later after he lost re-election, Dingwall looks back on political life
CBC News · Posted: Nov 09, 2015 7:00 AM AT

2. On Lying

Sutherland: "Is it ever OK to tell a lie?"

Dingwall: "Of course!"

9. On saying, 'I'm entitled to my entitlements'

"These guys were trying to deny me — and most important, my wife — of a pension. There are certain legal rights that you have as an individual, and when they're trying to take those things away … that's why I said what I said.

"It was an arrow which was going straight through to the prime minister of the day, to the clerk of the privy council of the day, opposition parties, anyone that wanted to listen … that I was going to get what I was entitled to. Should I have said it differently? Perhaps. But I said it."

Richard Sharp

@Michael West

The Cons have perpetrated the lies that Trudeau is an empty suit, incompetent, unable to think for himself, etc. for ten years now. They have attacked him personally a hundred thousand times and way more, if you include Twitter, FB and public forums like this one. The pure hate expressed is sickening and dangerous, yet he bravely attends more public events than any PM before him by a country mile.

I for one fear for his safety.

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David Amos 

@Richard Sharp "The Cons have perpetrated the lies that Trudeau is an empty suit, incompetent, unable to think for himself, etc. for ten years now."

Methinks you should read what your hero just said about what his cohorts said yesterday N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-snc-lavalin-privy-council-st-john-s-1.5029516

'Pay close heed' to words of top bureacrat on SNC-Lavalin affair, Trudeau says

"Wernick said he called Wilson-Raybould on Dec. 19, 2018, to discuss various issues — including the option of a remediation agreement.

During that call, Wernick said he spoke of the implications of prosecuting the company for employees, suppliers and communities. He said he told Wilson-Raybould that the prime minister and "a lot of her colleagues" were anxious about what they were hearing and reading in business media — articles warning that the company could close down or move if criminal proceedings went ahead."

"Wernick said Thursday he doesn't believe Wilson-Raybould is bound by solicitor-client privilege, but Trudeau said again on Friday that there are serious implications at play.

"This is something we do have to take very seriously because it's a fundamental part of our justice system and, indeed, in this case there are two ongoing court cases," he said.

Wilson-Raybould's successor, Justice Minister and Attorney General David Lametti, is reviewing the matter, but has offered no indication of when he could provide advice to the prime minister on privilege."










 
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Edward Water

Gearld Butts's resignation letter confirmed to me that he was an extremist ideologue all along and not at all the even keeled temperate cool-headed sort of individual that should be required in order to be Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister.

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Jennifer McIsaac

@Edward Water

And you think this is different for other Parties?????

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Edward Water

@Jennifer McIsaac: Butts was unique in that he revelled in the lime-light and actively engaged his opponents on Twitter.

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Warren Otto

@Jennifer McIsaac Jennifer is correct. Any Principle Secretary to a PM who is not an extremist ideologue is not fit to be a Principle Secretary.

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Art Rowe

@Edward Water
AH yes, TWITTER. A prime example of supposedly intelligent individuals being able to unleash their actual "inner selves" and say what they really think, because in some way it seems they feel that they are simply "venting" to a machine. (cell phone)
Sort of like when one is alone and does something stupid and admonishes oneself out loud.
A great example is of course the Grand TWITter from our southern neighbor.

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William Joseph Westcott Sr.

@Edward Water in other words, a real “piece of work “

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David Amos

@William Joseph Westcott Sr. Methinks everybody knows a certain Gerald Butts doesn't hold a candle to me within Twitter N'esy Pas?

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Art Rowe

@Art Rowe
Ooops, Grant TWIT terer

 
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Cecil Row

@Edward Water That's what happens when you hire your friends at the expense of qualifications.

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David Amos

@Cecil Row YUP

 
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Kenneth Hewer

Butts and Junior have been conjoined for decades so what did the little rich kid do to make butts butt-out?

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David Amos

@Kenneth Hewer Exactly

 
Rick Guthrie

So, according to the Liberals, it's ok for large companies to commit crimes as long as it saves jobs. Ridiculous. Not in my Canada. Time to resign Trudeau.

Stephen David

@Rick Guthrie

Agreed!

Craig Macneil

@Stephen David been happening for years,all one needs to do is google Harper conservatives and KPMG.

Jerry jordan

@Craig Macneil ...off topic ...we are talking about Trudeau and butts. want to talk about chretien and paul martin about adscam?

Jennifer McIsaac

@Rick Guthrie

I find this comment interesting because it seems that many in Alberta who hate Trudeau and the Liberals, want the federal government to break the law to build the TMX pipeline to save jobs.

Yet, if it was the government breaking the law to save Quebec jobs, then it is a totally different matter.

Such is partisanship and wearing blinkers to prevent hypocrisy, I suppose.

Robin Mack

@Rick Guthrie .... That's how Quebec works, Rick.

Craig Macneil

@Jerry jordan I vote green so i am always up to discuss con and lib scandals.

David Amos

@Rick Guthrie "Not in my Canada"

Nor mine

David Amos

@Craig Macneil Google David Amos KPMG

Then Google Harper and Bankers

Nico De Jong

@Rick Guthrie
No, just Quebec companies.

Neil Turv

@Rick Guthrie

I don't mind the addition of a deferment option as it does keep us competitive with US, UK.

I dislike the fact that it was buried in an omnibus bill despite their pledge to abandon this practice. And given how this whole thing is unfolding, it seems suspect that this is the piece of legislation that they used to break that promise.

Tony Hill 

 @Neil Turv

Agree 100% on the omnibus bill thing.

This kind of law demonstrates the very worst aspects of "omnibus" budget implementation bills. Because it was buried so deep in the legislation it received only about half an hour of scrutiny at the very end of a 3+ hour Finance Committee meeting. The Conservative and NDP members of the committee were highly critical of the inclusion of this change as part of a budget implementation bill. They also brought up concerns that it could be used to let big corporations off with a "slap on the wrist". Of course they were overruled by the majority Liberals on the committee.

The timing of it is all highly suspect. DPA's only came into effect in Sept. 2018 and the SNC Lavalin case started being looked at in Oct. 2018.

David Amos

@Neil Turv "I don't mind the addition of a deferment option as it does keep us competitive with US, UK."

Methinks many ethical Canadians would strongly disagree with crooks getting off the hook just because the Yankees and Brit allow such malicious nonsense. Thats why so many banksters were never prosecuted over they doings that caused the last economic collapse N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Tony Hill Methinks if they were truly on the up and up then there would have been no need to hide it N'esy Pas?

 
Bill Mickey

I don't recall he CBC saying anything disparaging about Butts and his influence in the previous 4 years, but now that he's gone...I wonder why that was/is?

David Amos

@Bill Mickey Good Point

Nico De Jong

@Bill Mickey
Something about $1.1 Billion cheques....?

 
Alex Norris

I wish he'd just go away and stay away.

He's another example of how the liberal "backroom boys", people who have never been elected, actually run our country.

He helped to ruin Ontario and then he moved onto the federal arena.

Good riddance !!!!

Warren Otto

@Alex Norris Sadly every party has 'backroom boys' who are the true power in government.

John Smith

@Alex Norris

what are the chances he gets a gig in the private sector with these multi billion dollar disasters?

David Amos

@John Smith Methinks Mr Butts has quite likely already lined up a job with Aga Khan Diversity is their game and it was well financed by Mr Harper N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aga-khan-pluralism-centre-1.4118277

John Smith

@David Amos

Does he get a free vacation in the Bahamas? Who pays for the helicopter ride?

David Amos

@John Smith Methinks nobody should care Mr Butts never was a public official just snob inside the PMO N'esy Pas?

 
Bob Lashram

That combative nature seems a common thread in Butt's party...We have witnessed their consistent use of deragatory labels for those disagreeing with their views...this lack of respect and bullying schoolyard demeanour is precisely what they profess to be against...rather low for the high offices they hold...

Charles Beale

@Bob Lashram # Have you ever seen/heard Parliament's Question Period?

Steven Arsenault

@Bob Lashram

So you would agree they claim to take the high road but display the same base traits of the conservatives?

Annabelle Murphy

@Charles Beale All Canadians should be ashamed of the decorum shown during Question Period. It should be straightforward, ask a question - answer a question. But each and every party chooses to use it as a ridicule, sarcasm and bullying session that is disgusting to watch.

Warren Otto

@Bob Lashram That happens across all parties.

Perry Best

@Warren Otto "That happens across all parties."
Trudeau campaigned that he would be different. Hypocrisy is the difference.

David Amos

@Warren Otto "That happens across all parties."

YUP

Warren Otto

@Perry Best They also all campaign on how they will be different. Recall Harper?

Elias Eliot

It is amazing how liberals promote "free press", as long as it is not critical of them.

Max Kaminsky

@Elias Eliot

Liberals have never, at any time, been a "friend" to the press.

David Amos

@Max Kaminsky Methinks Canada's self-described "Natural Governing Party" think they control the corporate media and I would not disagree. I do know for a fact that the Social Media is the only way to get to the truth of any matter as evidenced by this article N'esy Pas?

 
Philippe Cormier

With all this twitter time used by politicians , who is running the country. Get off-line and get to work.

Michael Kachmar

@Philippe Cormier we must suffer double the loss for a politician preoccupied with selfies.

David Amos

@Philippe Cormier Methinks you should check my work in Twitter I'm retired but my fellow Maritimer Mr Butts knows that I do run for public office now and then much to the chagrin of all the political parties and the corporate media as well as Anglos who don't like my Chiac N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

 
Robin Mack

Twitter - the "vomitorium of social media". Well said Mr. Wernick.
We are well rid of Mr. Butts (hopefully). Has the Tide Foundation called yet?

David Amos

@Robin Mack Methinks Mr Butts et al are well aware of the battles between Mr. Wernick and his cohorts since I ran against Andy Scott in the election of the 39th Parliament N'esy Pas?

 
John Chow

Gerald Butts' Twitter history is deeply disturbing, especially considering the position of power that he held in the PMO.

David Amos

@John Chow Relax and enjoy the circus

Cecil Row

Butts: The unqualified disguised as a progressive, manipulating and bullying behind a facade.

drew Currah

@Cecil Row
Exceedingly apt description!!
Thanks.

David Amos

@Cecil Row Methinks this article proves that is an understatement N'esy Pas?

 
Ken Adams

While Gerry may have resigned, he will continue, no doubt, to influence Justin from the shadows.

Jim Payne

@Ken Adams

rofl, sure ?

David Amos

@Ken Adams Methinks of that many people have no doubt N'esy Pas?

Don Cameron

Bu tts is a nasty piece of work. Very glad he is gone.

I suspect Trudeau still has him on speed dial so he knows what to say.

John Smith

@Don Cameron

how far is the signal in the earpiece?

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David Amos

@Don Cameron Methinks everybody knows Mr Butts is still pulling the strings N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Don Cameron Methinks its rather strange that I am forbidden to agree with again today N'esy Pas?

 

 
William Fromes

Don't promote this guy...he is not worthy

David Amos

@William Fromes Methinks its fun to put the spotlight on nasty people and it appears that CBC agrees today kinda sorta anyway N'esy Pas?

 
John Towler

Butts character is best described as a tree hugger and Trudeau's best friend. He kept his $330K job with world wildlife for some time while on our payroll. He charged $127k to move from To. to Ottawa. There is no mystery why liberals do not support oil sands.

Alex Norris

@John Towler

And somehow this career civil servant has amassed a net wealth of over $20 million.

How?

David Amos

@Alex Norris Good question perhaps the CRA can explain

  

Mark Edmonson

When entitlement supersedes common sense.

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David Amos 

@Mark Edmonson Methinks entitlement always superseded common sense. The liberal lawyer David Dingwall who hails from the same neck of the woods that Mr Butts and Mr Lynch former Depupty Minister of Finance and Clerk of the PCO said it in no uncertain terms many years ago. Dingwall bragged a lot right after Trudeau the Younger won his big mandate N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/dave-dingwall-information-morning-1.3307172

18 years later after he lost re-election, Dingwall looks back on political life
CBC News · Posted: Nov 09, 2015 7:00 AM AT

2. On Lying

Sutherland: "Is it ever OK to tell a lie?"

Dingwall: "Of course!"

9. On saying, 'I'm entitled to my entitlements'

"These guys were trying to deny me — and most important, my wife — of a pension. There are certain legal rights that you have as an individual, and when they're trying to take those things away … that's why I said what I said.

"It was an arrow which was going straight through to the prime minister of the day, to the clerk of the privy council of the day, opposition parties, anyone that wanted to listen … that I was going to get what I was entitled to. Should I have said it differently? Perhaps. But I said it."

David Amos

@Mark Edmonson YUP

Manny Fredrick

He must be very persuasive. His advice has steered both Ontario and federal liberals into disastrous waters. Hope he never gets to guide the good ship Canada again.

David Amos

@Manny Fredrick Me Too

 
david kirby

An analysis of his Twitter account will be a good thesis for a grad student and will give a real insight into the 'thinking' of Trudeau's Government

David Amos

@david kirby YUP

Joyce Hope Shortell

I can only surmise that Butts influence on Trudeau is part of the reason for Trudeaus poor performance as P.M.

Jim Payne

@Joyce Hope Shortell

The irony of your presumption when all Trudeau's poll shows disfavour, Scheer's still doesn't move.

The CPC should be thinking who will lead them next election, and try someone who isn't a career politician.

David Amos

@Jim Payne Oh So True

 
Nelson Potter

We got rid of the bad guy, now Canadians can move along. That will be the narrative, meanwhile GButt is behind the curtain.

David Amos

@Nelson Potter Methinks at least you and me and a little dog named Toto obviously can't be fooled N'esy Pas?

 

Mitchell Gant

My favorite was b u t z calling Canadians a bunch of not-zees for mocking trudeau demnding the use of the word "peoplekind".

David Amos

@Mitchell Gant Who is "Peoplekind" ???

 

Ken Morrison

Twitter is what got us into the dispute with Saudi Arabia . I believe in Old fashioned diplomacy using our Ambassador to send the same message. Had we done that we could still be demanding these girls release and an end to Yemen,s war.
So No I do Not think twitter is a good form for politicians

David Amos

@Ken Morrison Methinks folks should check my work within Twitter N'esy Pas?

 
Al Kap

Politics by Twitter, whether it’s Trump or Trudeau, or the behind-the -scene players has become s symptom and perhaps a partial cause of the deterioration of civil discourse and informed argument. Sad.

Jim Payne

@Al Kap

ROFL, obviously if you can't differentiate between the President of the US and Canada's PM, then that in itself pigeonholes your character.

Al Kap

@Jim Payne
You missed my point entirely. But that doesn’t surprise me.

Jim Payne

@Al Kap

the only point I see is your ability to link two and call them the same.

Michael Kachmar

@Jim Payne just keep making his point for him.

Al Kap

@Jim Payne
Obviously Trump’s tweets are in a league of their own but I don’t think politicians should be using that platform.

Dwayne Hicks

@Al Kap

"the only point I see is your ability to link two and call them the same."

Link the two? He contrasted two of the most different politicians around to demonstrate just how corrosive social media based politics is across the spectrum. How could you not only miss such an obvious point but then read into it something that clearly wasn't there?

Warren Otto

@Jim Payne Jimmy - get a coffee and re-read the original post.

David Amos

@Al Kap Methinks it should be rather obvious why so many folks should wholeheartedly disagree with you N'esy Pas?

Lindsay Stephenson

It's a long fall from the high horse.

David Amoe

@Lindsay Stephenson Methinks a dude name Humpty Dumpty has crossed a lot of minds of peoplekind lately N'esy Pas?

 
Bill Mickey

"The lesson to take from this joke being torqued by Infowars and other alt-right nazi friends of the Rebel is they're paying attention. Game on, #TeamTrudeau." How did this tweet from #TeamTrudeau not end up in MSM or at least the CBC. Butts was more than just combative. If Trump tweeted this it would be on the front page of every paper in America. I guess the $650 million Trudy gave to the media was money well spent. The tumbling down of this house of cards is accelerating now.

David Amos

@Bill Mickey Welcome to the Circus

 
Rachael Saunders

Gerald Butt is/was Justin Trudeau's puppet master.

David Amos

@Rachael Saunders YUP

Mitchell Gant

Nothing will change. B u t z will simply not be getting paid (above the table) to pull the strings of PM socks. Business as usual. It is the liberal way.

John Darling

@Mitchell Gant

Yawn...socks....

David Amos

@Mitchell Gant I concur

 
Richard Dover

Gerald Butts is the PM of Canada. The other guy is a proxy.

Erika Kreis

@Richard Dover Come on, Richard, did you ever think otherwise????

David Amos

@Erika Kreis Why should he?

 

Cecil Row

Twitter, the perfect medium for snakes.....

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David Amos

@Cecil Row Tut Tut Tut

David Amos

@Cecil Row Oh My My

 

EliasAshmole

Wow Butts! How does it feel being in league with the Big Carrot? You're not the first twit twitter tweeted to termination!

David Amos

@EliasAshmole Nor will he be the last

  

Trevor Smith

Where Gerald goes, trouble sure follows. Look at Ontario and McGuinty resigning in shame and now look at Ottawa and JT one step away from resigning in shame. He's a real piece of work.

David Amos

@Trevor Smith "He's a real piece of work"

I second that remark

 
Louisa Walker

Twitter, it really is for twits.

David Amos

@Louisa Walker Methinks in your opinion I would resemble that remark N'esy Pas?

  


Jim Johnson

Trudeau and Butts are the ones that are fear mongering, divisive in Canada.

David Amos

@Jim Johnson I agree but methinks the old lawyer who is now the Clerk of the PCO really stepped up their wicked game and raised the bar much higher yesterday N'esy Pas?

  
Michael West

He may have resigned but he still has Trudeau's ear. It's a fair assumption to make considering how disinterested JT is in assuming the responsibilities of being the PM preferring to outsource it to his aides to leave him more "personal days" for fun, travel, and selfies. Trudeau truly does have an "unserious mind" and is unfit to be PM. He needs others to tell him what to think and do because he's too intellectually lazy to do it himself. That's where Butts and Telford came in.

I wonder how many Canadians know it was Butts and his sidekick, Katie Telford, who were central in making Ontario one of the most indebted sub sovereign states in the world while driving up hydro costs with their ideologically driven green energy schemes that's helping to drive away business in the province while saddling Ontarions with the highest hydro rates in North America.

Now this dynamic duo has failed up into the PMO and considering their track record in Ontario should we be so surprised to see the current government in the state it's in? It was just a matter of time. What's amazing is they seemed to have achieved a personal best wreaking disaster within one term in the PMO whereas in Queen's Park it took them three. They should be so proud of themselves.

Nick Salva

@Michael West Yes the bug in Justin's ear, the WWF bug GB is still receiving money from them.

Curtis Harvey

@Nick Salva - No doubt they will Hand him over $100,000 “AGAIN “ to haul his c—p back to Tranna.

Richard Sharp

@Michael West

The Cons have perpetrated the lies that Trudeau is an empty suit, incompetent, unable to think for himself, etc. for ten years now. They have attacked him personally a hundred thousand times and way more, if you include Twitter, FB and public forums like this one. The pure hate expressed is sickening and dangerous, yet he bravely attends more public events than any PM before him by a country mile.

I for one fear for his safety.

Michael West

@Richard Sharp

""I don't read the newspapers, I don't watch the news. If something important happens, someone will tell me"

Justin Trudeau in Sherbrooke, February 26 2001.

Your move.

John Nelson

@Richard Sharp It's not a lie. The evidence speaks for itself in every utterance by the PM. You need to take the blinders off.

Michael West

@Richard Sharp

Furthermore it was former Liberal MP and ex-card carrying LPC member Dan McTeague who said Trudeau has an "unserious mind." Ex-LPC MP Michelle Simson was taken aback over how uninterested Trudeau was in politics caring more about having his picture in the papers than what the issues were of the day or how the party was voting.

You can listen to it on the Roy Green show if you want.

https://omny.fm/shows/roy-green-show/18-year-liberal-mp-dan-mcteague-quit-tells-us-ju-1

Tamara Jae

@Richard Sharp

well duh

He never passes up a photo op

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David Amos 

@Richard Sharp "The Cons have perpetrated the lies that Trudeau is an empty suit, incompetent, unable to think for himself, etc. for ten years now."

Methinks you should read what your hero just said about what his cohorts said yesterday N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-snc-lavalin-privy-council-st-john-s-1.5029516

'Pay close heed' to words of top bureacrat on SNC-Lavalin affair, Trudeau says

"Wernick said he called Wilson-Raybould on Dec. 19, 2018, to discuss various issues — including the option of a remediation agreement.

During that call, Wernick said he spoke of the implications of prosecuting the company for employees, suppliers and communities. He said he told Wilson-Raybould that the prime minister and "a lot of her colleagues" were anxious about what they were hearing and reading in business media — articles warning that the company could close down or move if criminal proceedings went ahead."

"Wernick said Thursday he doesn't believe Wilson-Raybould is bound by solicitor-client privilege, but Trudeau said again on Friday that there are serious implications at play.

"This is something we do have to take very seriously because it's a fundamental part of our justice system and, indeed, in this case there are two ongoing court cases," he said.

Wilson-Raybould's successor, Justice Minister and Attorney General David Lametti, is reviewing the matter, but has offered no indication of when he could provide advice to the prime minister on privilege."

David Amos

@Michael West Too bad you cannot read my reply to Mr Sharp

Ewan Cameron

Subpoena just issued to him by the Mark Norman defence team helps to explain why he resigned suddenly. The walls are closing in.

David Amos

@Ewan Cameron Who Cares?

Ewan Cameron

@David Amos
Touche

David Amos

@Ewan Cameron Perhaps we should talk?

David Amos

@Ewan Cameron I believe you saw my name on your ballot in the last federal election correct?

 

Ewan Cameron

@David Amos
Do you live in BC David?

David Amos

@Ewan Cameron Nope you are not the fella I thought you were

FYI I ran here in two federal elections including the last one

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

How Gerald Butts's combative use of Twitter brought him out of the shadows

Traditional reticence of PM's ex-principal secretary melted in the glare of social media

Mark Gollom· CBC News· Posted: Feb 22, 2019 4:00 AM ET 

Gerald Butts, former principal secretary to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, takes part in a Parliament Hill meeting in 2016. After his resignation Monday, Butts tweeted, 'Thanks for the notes of encouragement ... I appreciate the love and support.' (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)



Key aides to a prime minister generally prefer to stay in the shadows, perhaps providing background information to Parliament Hill journalists, but rarely giving interviews or generating much of a public persona.

In some ways, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's former principal secretary Gerald Butts carried on that tradition, rarely quoted, speaking to journalists only on background.

But he was particularly outspoken on the social media site Twitter.

Butts, who resigned Monday in the wake of the SNC-Lavalin affair, garnered a reputation of being a prolific tweeter, never shy to express his opinions, or "personal views" as he referred to them.
He would promote and champion the Liberal Party and the prime minister's policy initiatives. But he would also defend the prime minister, sometimes lash out at critics, take partisan swipes at the Conservatives and engage in Twitter spats with politicians and journalists.

• 5 things to know about Gerald Butts, following his resignation from the PMO

• Text of statement from Gerald Butts, who resigned as PM's principal secretary

• Opinion
  Gerald Butts was done in, at least partially, by the ethos of identity politics: Neil Macdonald

Even before Trudeau became prime minister in 2015, Butts was a presence on Twitter. In that year's election campaign, Butts went after one of his favourite targets, news media company Postmedia, over their articles about Trudeau's insistence that all new Liberal candidates must be pro-choice on abortion.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Read @cselley mock The Star, then guess how many breathless op-eds his paper published on Trudeau's pro-choice policy.

11:51 AM - Aug 25, 2014

But after Trudeau became prime minister, Butts's criticism about the media company continued:

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Postmedia has done to Canadian journalism what Harper's party has done to Canadian politics. Discuss.

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12:24 PM - Oct 17, 2015

Sometimes in a more cheeky manner:

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Your country is red.
Postmedia is blue.
They can't figure out what happened.
So they blame you.#cdnpoliValentines

258

3:03 PM - Feb 14, 2016

Butts would also tangle with journalists, as he did over a Vogue photo shoot of him and his wife Jodi Butts:

Glen McGregor✔@glen_mcgregor

Did Mandela's wife borrow a $5,600 dress for the photo shoot? https://twitter.com/gmbutts/status/675002354996019204 …

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Tell that to Nelson Mandela, who guest edited Vogue in 1993. https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/674993730856857600 …

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1:51 PM - Dec 10, 2015

Or critiques of Trudeau's availability to the media:

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Really? PM Trudeau has done more open media availabilities in 3 months than PM Harper did in 3 years. https://twitter.com/stevenchase/status/697839973882556416 …

Steven Chase✔@stevenchase

Trudeau cuts off questions from reporters at Ban presser after 5th journalist steps up to microphone. Little difference here from Harper era

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1:55 PM - Feb 11, 2016

In 2018, when the Liberals announced tax incentives for the news industry, some journalists expressed concerns about what they might mean for journalistic independence.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

I don’t agree with this thinking, obviously.

This public policy is not immune from being debated, by you or me or anyone else. Its content should analyzed according to historical and current global democratic norms, and it should be compared on its merits to the alternatives.

Jen Gerson✔@jengerson

Let's START with the fact that every single Tweet you put out about this further politicizes the bail out, undermining both my credibility, and yours.

I can continue by expressing my bafflement that you don't seem to understand this problem. https://twitter.com/gmbutts/status/1066508148574429184 …

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11:59 AM - Nov 25, 2018

He certainly wasn't above scolding the media.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

The (Stadler &) Waldorf school of journalism.

Andrew Coyne✔@acoyne

On #AtIssue tonight we discuss the Liberals (they’re a mess!), the Tories (they’re a mess!) and the NDP (they’re, like, a total mess!).

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9:29 PM - Dec 8, 2016

Here, he made a veiled critique of Canadian media for following stories on Russian websites raising questions about the grandfather of Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland and his ties to the Nazis.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Keep this for reference the next time a Russian foreign officer pitches you a story, Canadian journos.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN16X0G8?il=0 …

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9:33 AM - Mar 26, 2017

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He also went after the Globe and Mail in 2016 over an editorial about questions surrounding the birthplace of Liberal cabinet minister Maryam Monsef, comparing the article to the birther movement that falsely claimed former U.S. president Barack Obama was not born in the U.S.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

The Globe and Mail endorses a homegrown Canadian birther movement. Breathtaking.

The Globe and Mail✔@globeandmail

Editorial: A question for Maryam Monsef about her birthplace http://trib.al/F28OqMK  from @GlobeDebate

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9:27 PM - Sep 28, 2016

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Which sparked its own backlash with some journalists.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

No, that was definitely not the Obama birthers' thing. They had many things, but their main thing was racism.

Andrew Coyne✔@acoyne

No, see, the thing about the “birthers” is that Obama *was* born where he said he was. https://twitter.com/gmbutts/status/781304338505490432 …

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9:46 PM - Sep 28, 2016

Butts would also tangle with politicians. Conservative MP Erin O'Toole was a regular opponent.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Nice to see you at our kids’ swim meet too, Erin. Up early for Ava’s Friday morning practice and just catching this. Happy #FamilyDay.

Erin O'Toole✔@ErinOTooleMP

The next Liberal shuffle needs to be the unelected @gmbutts. Longtime Liberals tell me this needs to happen because of the divisive environment he creates. Time for Trudeau to show his Svengali the door. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-justin-trudeaus-management-style-fails-him-again/ …

378

6:10 AM - Feb 15, 2019

So was Alberta's United Conservative Party Leader Jason Kenney.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Trolling from his twitter team is no surprise, but a candidate for Premier should be above it. I left QP in spring of 2008, which he knows.

Jason Kenney✔@jkenney

The mastermind behind the crushing increases in Ontario power prices is none other than PM Trudeau's Principal Secretary, Gerald Butts. https://twitter.com/stevenchase/status/819943361138323456 …

122

11:03 AM - Jan 14, 2017

Former Saskatchewan premier Brad Wall, as well, got into an exchange over his survey about pipeline politics.

Brad Wall✔@BradWall306

So you don’t need to waste any more of your Saturday worrying about my survey. But if you have some spare time..maybe you could help get the pipeline built.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

I take this to mean none of the data collected will be shared or sold with a political party or PAC like the Rebel. Clip and save. https://twitter.com/BradWall306/status/995323786332385285 …

921

12:00 PM - May 12, 2018

Butts would also get involved in Twitter skirmishes with policy analysts. In February 2016, he debated with experts over the Liberals' ant-ISIS plan.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

 · Feb 9, 2016

We've only been making this argument for 18 months. We've owned it a long time. https://twitter.com/StephanieCarvin/status/697054662684348416 …

Steve Saideman@smsaideman

@gmbutts but it is an incoherent argument. Why support combat but not do combat? Is Trudeau a pacifist?

9

10:03 AM - Feb 9, 2016

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

We've only been making this argument for 18 months. We've owned it a long time. https://twitter.com/StephanieCarvin/status/697054662684348416 …

Stephanie Carvin@StephanieCarvin

Liberals made a choice to stop combat mission - so own it. Justify it. Don't point to Pentagon statements patting us on the head.

71

10:02 AM - Feb 9, 2016

Twitter was also a tool to launch defences of his boss. He slammed critics who ridiculed Trudeau for using the term peoplekind instead of mankind during a town hall in Edmonton.

• 'Canadians deserve answers': Opposition pushes on SNC-Lavalin after Butts resigns

• Gerald Butts resigns as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's principal secretary

Although Trudeau later brushed it off as a "dumb joke," Butts would take a step further, suggesting those who were so offended by the term were alt-right Nazi sympathizers.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

The lesson to take from this joke being torqued by Infowars and other alt-right nazi friends of the Rebel is they're paying attention. Game on, #TeamTrudeau.

Andrew Achtenberg@xgrunt

@DrJacobsRad , @gmbutts - He's made it big league now! https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/961406594746601472 …

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8:12 AM - Feb 8, 2018· Chicago, IL

Butts regularly employed the alt-right characterization, and he used it again to label those he felt were prejudiced against asylum seekers.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Enough is enough. It’s time to stand up to this divisive fear-mongering about asylum seekers. Let’s not allow the alt-right to do here what they’re doing elsewhere. #thread

Ahmed Hussen✔@HonAhmedHussen

Thread: In #Winnipeg to meet with Provincial & Territorial counterparts. We discussed how to continue to use immigration to grow our economy and our government’s clear plan to manage irregular migration.

Canadians expect all levels of government to work together. 1/6

1,231

10:33 AM - Jul 14, 2018

That led to this exchange with Toronto Sun editor emeritus and columnist Lorrie Goldstein:

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

I’m old enough to remember when it would have been remarkable to see a journalist give direction to a political party.

Our borders are secure, and it’s irresponsible to suggest otherwise.

Lorrie Goldstein✔@sunlorrie

An attempt by Trudeau's senior courtier to detract from the rather bungling job of governing his boss has been doing lately. What he wants is for Conservatives to overreact. Don't. Simply point out it's absurd to portray Canadians who believe in secure borders as alt-right. https://twitter.com/gmbutts/status/1018141487824072704 …

626

3:33 PM - Jul 14, 2018

Naturally, the federal Tories were constant target. Whether it was the previous Harper government:

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

If the Conservatives were still in power, the government of Canada would have folded like a cheap tent to Trump by now. Remember this next year. #NAFTA#TeamTrudeau

Joe Oliver✔@joeoliver1

Canada is vulnerable to @NAFTA failure @JustinTrudeau made more likely. He weakened economy with imprudent fiscal policies prior to ec downturn, provoked a notoriously sensitive President & didn’t aim for comprehensive free trade. @Torontosun2#joeoliverhttp://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/trudeau-has-left-us-vulnerable-to-nafta-failure-he-made-more-likely ….

1,093

9:36 AM - Jun 27, 2018

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Another Harper law gets cut to pieces in court. Managerial competence indeed. https://twitter.com/picardonhealth/status/702545038887137280 …

André Picard✔@picardonhealth

Patients can grow their own medical #marijuana, court rules, by @MikePHager#mmjhttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/federal-judge-to-decide-if-medical-marijuana-patients-can-grow-their-own/article28865796/ …

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1:34 PM - Feb 24, 2016

Or the current Conservative party:

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

On economic policy as on climate change, Mr Scheer and his party are just making stuff up. Canadians are smarter than this brand of CPC politician thinks they are.

Stephen Wicary✔@wicary

There's an awful lot of economic brainpower amassed against the Tory contention that Trudeau’s fiscal policy inevitably leads to higher taxes, @CarmichaelKevin writes http://business.financialpost.com/wcm/d5929b54-1169-45e1-b072-00027d7e307a … #cdnecon

381

2:30 PM - Feb 6, 2019· Ottawa, Ontario

Indeed, the former CEO of the World Wildlife Federation's Canadian office made his political opponents' climate change policies, or the lack thereof, a consistent topic.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

The Conservative Party has been taken over by the far-right fringe on the environment, in Ontario and nationally. There’s no room for sensible ideas. That’s why neither Ford nor Scheer has a climate plan.

Bruce Anderson✔@bruceanderson

Kudos to leading conservative policy mind @marktcameron and @CleanProsperity@bernstein_micha for telling it like it is: "The federal carbon tax and rebate program is a balanced and effective way to reduce emissions"https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/why-a-carbon-tax-wont-cause-a-recession/ …

1,147

10:07 AM - Jan 24, 2019

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Ontario passes the buck (and a much larger bill) on #climatechange to my kids and yours.

It’s an abdication of national leadership that would embarrass most Premiers in the history of that great province.

Robin Edger@RobinEdger

Ontarians know we have a responsibility to each other and our children to ensure clean air and a healthy environment. The Ontario government’s climate plan does not meet this responsibility. http://www.pembina.org/media-release/ontario-stalls-climate-action …

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4:57 PM - Nov 29, 2018

It may be fitting that Butts, shortly after his resignation, used the forum to post his resignation letter and thank those who offered notes of encouragement.

Gerald Butts ✔@gmbutts

Thanks for the notes of encouragement to all who have reached out. @jodilhbutts and I appreciate the love and support. But public institutions are bigger and more important than any of their temporary occupants. Please see my statement.

Kate Purchase‏Verified account @katepurchase

Please see this statement from @gmbutts. As someone who has worked closely with Gerry, I know how deeply he believes in public service and this country. We are lucky to have had him serve it in this capacity for so long.

3:54 PM - 18 Feb 2019

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Mark Norman's defence team hits Trudeau, Butts with subpoenas

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks anyone can Google T-1557-15 then check out statement no 83 of my lawsuit to see why Mark Norman's lawyers should not have ignored my concerns for years N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/mark-normans-defence-team-hits-trudeau.html

#nbpoli#cdnpoli


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-trudeau-wernick-butts-1.5029737

Mark Norman's defence team hits Trudeau, Butts with subpoenas

936 Comments

Daryl McBride

Trudeau's non answers won't cut it in a court of law.

Troy Mann

@Daryl McBride

Conservatives will believe anyone even a guy arrested for giving out top secret information

Darren MacDonald

@Troy Mann You don't give out information that is readily available in Ottawa circles. Out of curiousity, how did it get from Cabinet to the public?

Mark Walen Cooper

@Daryl McBride - Remember this was during Harper's term or does that matter to you at all? Just saying. What were Norman's marching orders from the former Conservative government related to the $668-million leased supply ship project? The deal was hammered out on the eve of the 2015 election by the former Conservative government and grudgingly approved by the Liberals weeks after they took power. I guess this is also not important to you. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-stephen-harper-breach-trust-navy-1.5002833

Bert Law

@Mark Walen Cooper

So, past PM's are responsible for the current PM's subpoena....

Makes perfect sense to No One else but the trudeau liberals.

Mark Walen Cooper

@Bert Law - The subpoena will unseal documents from the Conservative era. You approach the government of the day for this. Remember the Liberals grudgingly approved this conservative deal and anything the current PM has on it is of great interest.

Keith Laughton

@Mark Walen Cooper

Perhaps you missed that the only charge is the leak from a Liberal Cabinet meeting of Mr Brison's plan - on behalf of his friends ar Irving - to cancel a contract with a competitor.

But like the SNC-Lavalin issue, the "Open and Transparent" Trudeau government is blocking access to the documents and information.

Regards,

David Amos 

@Keith Laughton "Perhaps you missed that the only charge is the leak from a Liberal Cabinet meeting of Mr Brison's plan - on behalf of his friends ar Irving - to cancel a contract with a competitor."

FYI All my political opponents know that I had a a rather profound legal argument with the Crown before the former General Counsel of Irving Ship Building in Federal Court on January 11th, 2016

Methinks anyone can Google T-1557-15 then check out statement no 83 of my lawsuit to see why Mark Norman's lawyers should not have ignored my concerns for years N'esy Pas?

Ryan Tasker

@Bert Law
Nono, you have it backwards... CURRENT PM's are responsible for past PM's negligence and illegal activity.

Daryl McBride

Looks like the Mark Norman torpedo might just finish off the Liberals.

Neil Gregory

@Daryl McBride

One can hope.

Troy Mann

@Daryl McBride

Norman the illegal leaker who gave out top secret information is the hero of the conservatives

Mark Walen Cooper

@Daryl McBride - Might finish any chance the cons had. Remember this was during Harper's term or does that not matter to you at all? What were Norman's marching orders from the former Conservative government related to the $668-million leased supply ship project? https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-stephen-harper-breach-trust-navy-1.5002833

Keith Laughton

@Troy Mann

Since when did the discussion on whether to delay an already announced contract become secret?

Other than embarrasing the Trudeau government, especially the Irvings friend Mr Brison, the leak by one of the many people in the know (including Mr Matchett who the PCO didn't have on their list) did not jeapodise National Security.

In fact it led to the contract being complete on time an don budget providing the Royal Canadian Navy an interim supply ship.

Regards,

Keith Laughton

@Mark Walen Cooper

It is clear that the orders of the Harper government were to provide an interim supply ship capability to the Royal Canadian Navy.

It is also clear that the initial agenda of the Trudeau government was to cancel that capability on behalf of Mr Brison's friends at the Irving shipyards.

You do realise that the leak was from a Liberal Cabinet meeting?

And the entire article you site is about the "Open and transparent" Trudeau government blocking access to the documents that have been cleared for release by Mr Harper.

Regards,

David Amos

@Troy Mann "Norman the illegal leaker who gave out top secret information is the hero of the conservatives"

Methinks you should take a stroll down to Federal Court and pull docket # T-1557-15 and share your newfound information with your friends N'esy Pas?

Darren MacDonald

@David Amos No he shouldn't. As a matter of fact, Troy and everyone else on this site should avoid your blog.

Richard Sharp

@Daryl McBride

The Trudeau Libs are settlement kings. That they haven’t settled with Norman is telling.

David Amos

@Darren MacDonald "No he shouldn't. As a matter of fact, Troy and everyone else on this site should avoid your blog."

Methinks you should read before you post I was directing him to Federal Court not my blog N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Richard Sharp Methinks that is an understatement N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Darren MacDonald "No he shouldn't. As a matter of fact, Troy and everyone else on this site should avoid your blog."

Whereas you brought up my blog perhaps folks should Google Mark Norman David Amos

 
Jim Johnson

CBC do you feel like your gravy train is slipping away.

Shawn Pieterson

@Jim Johnson
Harper should have axed it when he was in power.

sam cooper

@Jim Johnson the way you feel why are you here?

Kay McLeod

@sam cooper Because we know the national broadcaster paid for by ALL of us, has a lot of influence. We're paying for it and we'll come here to have a chance at demonstrating to Canadians that there are other views.

Phil Mein

@Jim Johnson Hopefully this will be the last term for CBC as well.

Troy Mann

@Shawn Pieterson "Harper should have axed it when he was in power"

Ask yourself why he didnt
Ask yourself why Sheer has no policy on the CBC

Mark Walen Cooper

@Jim Johnson - LOL, Best one today. What else can be said. Actually, what can be said is that you're actually getting thumbs up for such rubbish. Now why would someone come here if they dislike it? Self-flagellation? Do note that intelligent readers didn't even bother with this con propaganda by not voting you down.

Mohamed Khan

@Troy Mann could be because literally every single person who has suggested axing the CBC has ended their political career shortly after, see the last Conservative leader nomination

David Amos

@Troy Mann "Ask yourself why Sheer has no policy on the CBC"

Methinks you should ask yourself why Mr Sheer supported the liberals when they illegally barred me from Parliamentary properties as soon as Kevin Vickers retired from the RCMP and left Fredericton to become the Sgt at Arms in Ottawa N'esy Pas?

Mark Irvine

Can any sane person vote for Trudeau at this point?

Fred Leard

@Mark Irvine I don't think any sane folkd voted for him last time.

Greg Steeden

@Mark Irvine Options ? give us the viable option. If you say Andrew Scheer, I'll tell you you are a dope. PCs put us in this glue financially in the first place. Next option. You are correct, we have no options that do not totally put us back into a bigger mess. The PCs haven't got a platform. "We'll reveal soon." BS ! Stand up and shout but have no plan to back up the shouting. Anyone can stand back and bleat. Have a plan !

Donald Patrick

@Greg Steeden In case you hadn't notice, Conservatives aren't required to have platform as they are the opposition. If you want to see a platform then get your "boy" to call an election. Nobody shows their cards until the bet is called!! Are you new here??

glen spryszak

@Greg Steeden

Andrew tore Trudeau a new one in the H of C this week. Made Trudeau look like a fool.

Bort Smith

@Mark Irvine
You can't vote for the Prime Minister...that is not how it works...

@Greg Steeden
Platforms are not legally binding documents and are by definition completely changeable. They are not and should not be a necessity for an electoral decision.

Keith Laughton

@Bort Smith

Your comment about not voting for the PM, unless you reside in his riding, is a distinction without a difference.

Canadians vote for MPs from the party they think will best represent them in parliament.

Those MPs are affiliated with a party and the party leader - the prospective PM - must approve their candidacy.

He also approves the platform they run on.

Regards

David Amos

@Mark Irvine Define sane

Agnes Day

@Mark Irvine

I won't be voting for Trudeau.
Not will I be voting for Sheer.

Richard Sharp

@Mark Irvine

When compared to Harper retreads like Scheer, Poilievre and Rempel, the Trudeau Libs are an easy choice.

David Amos

@Richard Sharp Methinks ad hominem attacks do not help your beloved party N'esy Pas?

 
Josh Kasey

So many scandals that the only way to keep track of them is to keep them on a spreadsheet.

Dennis Cooper

@Josh Kasey

Scandal? How dare you use such disparaging remarks. There are no scandals, this is the liberal rewards program.

Aaron Morris

@Dennis Cooper

Nothing illegal here, it's just irregular with regards to the law.

Troy Mann

@Josh Kasey

Anonymous sources say something and conservatives shout SCANDAL

A guy on trial for giving out top secret information says conspiracy against him and conservatives shout SCANDAL

When did conservatives start to believe anonymous sources and people arrested by the RCMP?

Keith Laughton

@Troy Mann

The Clerk of the Privy Council Office testifies that he pressured the Minister of Justice and Attorney General by raising points that are invalid according to the actual law and confirmed the elements of the Globe and Mail Article.

http://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/C-74/royal-assent

"Factors not to consider

(3) Despite paragraph (2)‍(i), if the organization is alleged to have committed an offence under section 3 or 4 of the Corruption of Foreign Public Officials Act, the prosecutor must not consider the national economic interest, the potential effect on relations with a state other than Canada or the identity of the organization or individual involved."

The same PCO is trying to engineer the issues in the Norman trial.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-cabinet-leak-trial-prosecution-1.5021156

As an aside when did embarrassing Mr Trudeau and Mr Brison for their naked partisan politics classify as Exceptionally Grave Injury to the national interest?

I am sure that you did know that is the definition of TOP SECRET. Feel free to see the definition according to the government at the link.

https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/esc-src/protection-safeguarding/niveaux-levels-eng.html

Regards,

Agnes Day

@Josh Kasey

to keep track of Conservative scandals one needs a database.

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Troy Mann "When did conservatives start to believe anonymous sources and people arrested by the RCMP?"

Methinks everybody in the political arena New Brunswick knows that the RCMP illegally arrested me and then assaulted me in the DECH in 2008 Even though the Crown still denies it ever happened to this very day I filed the proof of the malice practiced against by the RCMP and the Fredericton PD in Federal Court long ago N'esy Pas?

Richard Sharp

@Josh Kasey

Wernick destroyed two weeks of opposition parties’ unfounded character assassinations and jackal-like attacks from Canadian journos in just three hours.

David Amos

@Troy Mann "When did conservatives start to believe anonymous sources and people arrested by the RCMP?"

Methinks folks should ask the RCMP or their overseer Mr Goodale N'esy Pas?

 
bill chagwich

j heads up to Mr Trudeau and Mr Butts, you can't run, spin and hide, the law will catch up eventually

David Amos

@bill chagwich Heres hoping thats true

Andrew Szollos

Ahhh, Errrr, Ughhhh, Uhmmmm...Gerald???

Richard B

@Andrew Szollos hahahaha

Bort Smith

@Andrew Szollos

"He's gone Mr. Prime Minster!"

David Amos

@Andrew Szollos All I hear is crickets from Gerry's neck of the woods but methinks there sure are a lot turkeys making quite a fuss everywhere else N'esy Pas?

 
Dayton Funk

Scandals are coming out so fast the media can't keep up. Good for the media. Not so good for the country.

Fred Leard

@Dayton Funk If it gets rid of this circus of clowns it will be great for the country.

David Amos

@Fred Leard Relax Kick back and enjoy the circus your tax dollars already paid for it anyway EH?

 
Mike Cardinal

Justin better get his snowboard ready, his credibility is going down a slope.

David Amos

@Mike Cardinal Methinks he should book another helicopter and seek Aga Khan's Counsel ASAP N'esy Pas?

 
Dave MacDonald

It only keeps getting better and better . Except if you are a Liberal .

David Amos

@Dave MacDonald Welcome to the circus

Mark Norman's defence team hits Trudeau, Butts with subpoenas

Lawyers seeking emails, texts and notes related to vice-admiral's criminal case

Murray Brewster· CBC News· Posted: Feb 22, 2019 12:14 PM ET 

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau leaves his office with his principal secretary Gerald Butts to attend an emergency cabinet meeting on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on Tuesday, April 10, 2018. Butts recently resigned amid allegations that the Prime Minister's Office interfered to prevent criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin. (Justin Tang/THE CANADIAN PRESS)

Subpoenas have been issued to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his former and current top officials — including ex-principal secretary Gerald Butts — for any notes, emails or texts they may have related to the criminal case against Vice-Admiral Mark Norman.

The notes are being sought by the legal team defending the former vice chief of the defence staff against a single charge of breach of trust. Norman is accused of leaking cabinet secrets in relation to a shipbuilding deal.

The subpoenas were issued earlier this month as Toronto lawyer Marie Henein was preparing a motion to dismiss the case on the basis of alleged political interference.

The court order for notes includes both the prime minister and Butts, and also Trudeau's Chief of Staff Katie Telford, Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick and Zita Astravas, chief of staff to Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan.

Henein told the court Friday she views obtaining those notes as a "high priority" for the defence.
"These requests have been outstanding for some time," she said. "I just want to make sure we're moving to the top of list the material that may be relevant to the abuse of process motion."

• Gerald Butts resigns as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's principal secretary

• Updated
  PCO lawyer asked prosecutor if there was a way to 'engineer issues' in Norman case, court hears

• Crown denies receiving 'instructions' from government in Vice-Admiral Norman case

Judge Heather Perkins-McVey noted that Wernick "has been quite busy this week"— a reference to the clerk's testimony Thursday before the House of Commons justice committee, which is investigating allegations of political interference in the prosecution of SNC Lavalin.

• Top civil servant denies 'inappropriate' pressure against Wilson-Raybould in SNC-Lavalin case

At a pretrial hearing on Friday, the Department of Justice indicated officials are still in the process of collecting the notes and could not say when they will be turned over.

"We've made it a priority, along with some other priority tasks," said Robert MacKinnon, the Department of Justice lawyer who is shepherding the disclosure of federal government documents. "I think you can appreciate everyone is working at full speed."

Henein asked the court last October to force the government to deliver up communications between the Prime Minister's Office and the Privy Council, which supports and advises Trudeau.

The demand for documents was narrowed on Feb. 1 after Astravas testified at the pretrial hearing last month that she could not recall the substance of any conversations within the PMO about the Norman case while she was a senior official there.

The former commander of the navy is accused of leaking cabinet secrets related to a $668 million shipbuilding deal in 2015. He is one of two people charged in the case; federal procurement official Matthew Matchett also faces a single count of breach of trust.

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PCs, Greens and People's Alliance open to idea of moving mental health centre

February 23, 2019, 3:53 am

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Methinks if folks go all the way to Alberta to find work they can certainly go up to Campbellton too N'esy Pas?


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PCs, Greens and People's Alliance open to idea of moving mental health centre

CBC New Brunswick Political Panel reacts to scathing ombud report on Restigouche Hospital Centre.

CBC News· Posted: Feb 22, 2019 7:00 AM AT 

 

CBC New Brunswick's political panel discussed the recently released report on patient abuse and neglect at the Restigouche Hospital Centre. (CBC)

 

 

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Problems with mental health care in the province have been brought to the forefront with New Brunswick ombud Charles Murray's report detailing patient mistreatment and inadequate care at the Restigouche Hospital Centre, but the suggested solution of moving the treatment centre isn't sitting well with one MLA.

Gilles LePage, Liberal MLA for Restigouche West, said he feels there are still questions that must be answered by either Vitalité Health Network or Weber's report before solutions are discussed.

• Youth mental health facility shouldn't be in Campbellton, says former child and youth advocate

• Restigouche Hospital Centre safe for patients, says Vitalité

"I think that we are jumping the gun in going after all the recommendations that are in [Murray's report] while there are still studies and some answers that will be given," LePage said.

New Brunswick's health minister has since put the opening of the new youth mental health facility right next to the Restigouche centre on hold, and the provincial government has hired George Weber, a mental health care consultant, to review the facility and Murray's report.

The PCs, Greens and People's Alliance are open to the idea of moving the centre if Weber's report recommends it.

Restigouche West MLA Gilles LePage (CBC)

 

 

 

LePage said it only seems logical to him to keep specialized treatment resources concentrated to one area, citing Saint John as a centre for heart specialists and Moncton for cancer treatments as examples.

Progressive Conservative Education Minister Dominic Cardy and the two other MLAs on the panel, David Coon for the Greens and Rick DeSaulniers for the People's Alliance, said population needs to be taken into account to ensure adequate staffing levels, a problem the report highlights as severe in the Campbellton centre.

"I don't think it's going to sound very credible when you argue that you are centralizing services if you're talking about centralizing them in Campbellton, and that's no disrespect to Campbellton," Cardy said.

DeSaulniers said staff will not be drawn to a centre that lacks expertise.

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"If you build it they will come, well they didn't come and they are not going to come," he said.
LePage said there is a shortage of mental health expertise across the country, and that the problem is not just isolated to Campbellton or New Brunswick.

Still, Cardy pointed out the decision to put the mental health facility in Campbellton in the first place was done against the advice of experts who said Moncton would be a better location with broader resources.

Education minister Dominic Cardy said regional economic development shouldn't be the priority regarding the Restigouche Health Centre, it should be patient services. (CBC)

 

 

 

He said immigration data shows Moncton is a growing community, and it is easier to attract people to larger centres, as well as the fact that Moncton is home to NGOs that could partner with Vitalité to enhance patient services.

Coon said he sees two issues at play — problems with mental health services, and the need for economic development in northern regions of the province.

"People of course desperately want to hold onto those [locations] because that's one of the only things going on in their community," Coon said.

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"[But] we need to address the patients, what's best for them."

DeSaulniers said even if the mental health treatment centre is moved, the existing facilities in Campbellton could be repurposed.

All agreed the move to have Weber review the facility and the report was a good one.

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February 23, 2019, 11:18 pm

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In 2015 Mean Little Mikey Wernick raised Hell about student protesters calling them Brownshirts and Maoists I dealt with it immediately by publishing and sharing my emails about his malicious nonsense N'esy Pas?


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Clerk's comments before justice committee risked 'raising the perception of bias'

Michael Wernick’s testimony felt like a circling of the wagons: professor

CBC Radio· Posted: Feb 22, 2019 11:25 AM ET 

Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick waits to appear before the justice committee meeting in Ottawa on Thursday. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)



Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick's comments before the justice committee Thursday could create the "perception of bias," according to a political scientist.

"I think what raised questions or raised my eyebrows was the fairly effusive praise and some of the language," including his words about "the prime minister's actions and integrity," said Emmett Macfarlane, an associate professor of political science at the University of Waterloo.

As Canada's top civil servant, Wernick is tasked with serving the prime minister and his cabinet, but is expected to remain non-partisan.

However, his testimony "gave the impression of the kind of circling-the-wagons effect," Macfarlane told The Current's guest host Laura Lynch.

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"My concern is not that he actually necessarily holds bias, but that he risked in his comments raising the perception of bias, and I think that's an important distinction."

Speaking before the justice committee yesterday, Wernick said that no inappropriate pressure had been put on former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to override the decision to prosecute SNC-Lavalin, but noted he had warned her about economic "consequences" of criminal proceedings.
The Current requested an interview with Wernick, but he declined.

Liberal MP Jody Wilson-Raybould leaves the Parliament buildings following Question Period in Ottawa on Tuesday. She is expected to testify next week in hearings over whether the Prime Minister's Office improperly pressured her to help Montreal engineering giant SNC-Lavalin avoid criminal prosecution. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Questions over whether Wilson-Raybould was pressured to intervene in the criminal case have dogged the federal Liberal government for weeks. She has not commented on the accusations — citing solicitor-client privilege — but is expected to testify before the committee next week.

• Wilson-Raybould to testify in parliamentary probe of SNC-Lavalin scandal, but no witnesses from PMO called

To discuss whether the clerk's appearance sheds any new light in the political shadows, Lynch was joined by:

• Althia Raj, Ottawa bureau chief for HuffPost Canada.
• Emmett Macfarlane, an associate professor in political science at the University of Waterloo.
• Norman Spector, who served as chief of staff under former Conservative prime minister Brian Mulroney.

Click 'listen' near the top of this page to hear the full conversation.

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With files from CBC News. Produced by Julie Crysler, Sarah-Joyce Battersby and Jessica Linzey.

Clerk's comments before justice committee risked 'raising the perception of bias'

Guests: Emmett MacFarlane, Althia Raj, Norman Spector

LAURA LYNCH: Canada's top civil servant, the clerk of the Privy Council someone were not much used to hearing from took center stage yesterday in the SNC Lavalin Jody Wilson-Raybould affair. And after Michael Wernick took the mike it turned out he had a few things to say not only about the seeming scandal in question. First up today the latest unfolding story including the John Wernick's testimony that he did pick up the phone to talk about the file but not to pressure.


LL: If you looked at the political calendar and are on one side the clerk of the Privy Council was testifying before the Justice Committee. You wouldn't necessarily think it might be the most riveting story in town but Michael Wernick should grab people's attention yesterday.

SOUNDCLIP

"I'm deeply concerned about my country right now and it's politics and where it's headed. I worry about foreign interference in the upcoming election and we're working hard on that. I worry about the rising tide of incitements to violence when people use terms like treason and traitor in open discourse. Those are the words that lead to assassination. I'm worried that somebody is going to be shot in this country this year during the political campaign. I think it's totally unacceptable that a member of the Parliament of Canada would incite people to drive trucks over people after what happened in Toronto last summer. Totally unacceptable and I hope that you as parliamentarians are going to condemn that. I worry about the reputations of honorable people who serve their country being besmirched and dragged through the market square. I worry about the trolling from the vomitorium of social media entering the open media arena. Most of all I worry about people losing faith in the institutions of governance of this country and that's why these proceedings are so important."

LL: The clerk of the Privy Council has before the committee to answer questions about the SNC Lavallette affair. He had some interesting things to say about that too. Joining me now are three people who are watching the testimony closely Althia Raj is Ottawa bureau chief for Huff Post Canada. She is in Ottawa this morning. Emmett MacFarlane is political science professor at the University of Waterloo and he is in Waterloo. And Norman Spector served as chief of staff under former conservative prime minister Brian Mulroney and we reached him in Victoria. Hello to all three of you. 

ALTHIA RAJ: Good morning. 

NORMAN SPECTOR: Good morning. 

EMMETT MACFARLANE: Good morning. 

LL: Let's start with, what jumped out at you, all of you, about Michael Wernick's testimony yesterday? Let's start with you, Norman Spector. 

NORMAN SPECTOR: Obviously his opening statement which I thought was inadvisable, having come from the school of security advise should not be talked about. Looking at the headline in the front pages of Toronto Star today, he certainly did get that message out and I'd be interested to know whether he was advised by the security services to get that message out. The other thing obviously that struck me was the degree to which he articulated the government position. Frankly did a much better job than anyone in the government has done. He pursued a line that the government should have adopted from the beginning, it would be in a lot less trouble. That said it's important to remember that he is the prime minister's deputy minister. He's hired and fired by the prime minister. In fact the prime minister replaced his predecessor and appointed him. Secondly he was integrally involved in the approach to Jody Wilson-Raybold. He was an architect of that approach. So he would really justify it which is what I think we heard yesterday. 

LL: Emmett MacFarlane. 

EMMETT MACFARLANE: Yes, I thought he was a surprisingly forthright in his overall testimony. I was surprised by some of the same things that Mr. Specter's indicating there. The opening statement seemed quite disconnected from the purpose of this appearance before the committee. At times he was also very effusive in his praise for the prime minister, for various cabinet ministers and. I think those were probably the eyebrow raising moments of the testimony for me because although he has a sterling reputation as a nonpartisan and a I actually think he came across as very honest in his beliefs. He risked I think at times setting out a perception of partisanship in the degree to which he was effusive in that parties. 

LL: Okay, Althia, what stood out for you?

ALTHIA RAJ: Well I would say I don't think he has come out off the top was disjointed with the rest of the testimony. I think it was designed to make Canadians think you know these are the big things that I worry about suddenly being assassinated and the next election. And this is like super smart potatoes because were talking about whether you were pressured or unduly pressured. So I think that was the link he was making. It was really riveting in the sense that he brought us inside cabinet in a way that nobody talks about publicly here like the fight between clearly minister Wislon-Raybould and Minister Bennett on indigenous file, but what was really revealing was the details that we hadn't learned before. Like he told us that Ian September - minister Wilson-Raybould when she was acting as attorney general, made it clear to the prime minister that he had no intention of intervening unless file and then he lays out all the pressure points where he personally tries to convince her otherwise. Like the prime minister is very concerned about the potential business impact on people and pensioners and workers, for SNC Lavalin. And so that was that was very interesting. 

LL: Emmett MacFarlane I am interested to know when you hear him testifying about what role he played in all of this and what Wernick himself picked out as points that Jody Wilson-Raybould may find problematic, is that the role of the clerk of the Privy Council to do that kind of thing. 

EMMETT MACFARLANE: His role is to effectively faithfully try to implement the wishes of the government of the day and particularly the prime minister and an act his behest. The question of pressure is in this particular instance is an interesting one and it seems to have raised more questions than answers, because it seems to me to come down to what is a question of inappropriate pressure vs. appropriate pressure. I'm not sure a lot of Canadians are going to make that distinction if they're following this story. It became clear during his testimony that pressure was applied. Once you're bringing in the economic consequences of a decision, once you're taking pains to note that yes the prime minister did tell the attorney general that it was her call alone to make, it seems to imply: well, what was the necessity of telling her that? So pressure was applied. Was it inappropriate? We won't know. Charlie was able is able to actually openly testify and in a manner that's free from solicitor crime privilege. 

LL: Norman Spector, I'm interested in your views on this because as I said you worked Brian Mulroney's office as chief of staff but you actually had occasion in your capacity to call then just as Minister Kim Campbell about a case. 

NORMAN SPECTOR: Yes that was a case of the mill guard review Kim Campbell the justice minister had brushed off the mother's request for a review of the case, and the prime minister was confronted by her visit to Winnipeg and asked me to direct the Minister of Justice to review the case which he did. There was obviously no substantive direction. But what this brings up is that effectively Mr. Wernick Confirmed the Globe and Mail story. Globe and Mail reported on February 7th that there was pressure on Jody Wilson-Raybould to issue this directive, and effectively there was. And as professor MacFarlane says, the question is whether it was improper unacceptable pressure. But the Globe and Mail report was that he pressured her. There is no doubt that he and the prime minister did pressure her. He's disputing, the report a report of the Glove insofar as to details about conversations related to speeches that the minister of gave but he's effectively you know he's effectively confirmed the story.

ALTHIA RAJ: So we don't know that the prime minister pressured her. We know from his testimony that he communicated with her and in his words it's not inappropriate pressure, but we don't know whether the prime minister personally pressured the .[unintelligible]. 

LL: Can I just raise one other thing that Michael Wernick said? He also suggested - as the prime minister had - that Jody Wilson-Raybould could have acted if she felt pressure. I just one play a little bit of that tape. Let's hear that now. 

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"That I conveyed to her that a lot of her colleagues and the prime minister were quite anxious about what they were hearing and reading in the business press about the future of the company and the options that were being openly discussed in the business press about the company moving or closing. So I can tell you with complete assurance that my view of those conversations is that they were within the boundaries of what's lawful and appropriate. I was informing the minister of context. She may have another view of the conversation but that's something that the ethics commissioner could sort out. If she felt, back in September or October or November or December or at any point, that there is inappropriate pressure on her she had recourse. She could have called the ethics commissioner at any time any day. She could have contacted the Prime Minister at any time any day. The prime minister is available through switchboard seven days a week 24 hours a day."

LL: What's the response to that? Norman Specter what do you think of what he had to say about that?

NORMAN SPECTOR: Well we'll hear from Ms. Wilson-Raybould when she's allowed to speak. I think it's important that Mr. Wernick said there's no solicitor client privilege and he was quite clear that there was no discussion of cabinet. So she should be allowed to speak. Mr. Wernick's position Is that everything he did was lawful. This is the nub of the issue. All that pressure, all his discussions with colleagues are lawful. In fact [unintelligible] so far to say that firing her, as attorney general, he used the word cabinet stuff, but effectively she was fired as attorney general replacing her with Mr. Lametti is lawful. 

LL: But did she have a responsibility to come forward?

NORMAN SPECTOR: Your position is that any conversations once the director of Public Prosecutions had made the decision not to enter a plea deal was appropriate. That's her position, according to the Globe that she expressed to cabinet. She will have to explain why she did not come forward. I can't say one way or another whether she should have.

LL: Emmett MacFarlane what do you think?

EMMETT MACFARLANE: Yes. I mean I thought that was one of the moments that just further raise another question. We need a little more transparency on what exactly did she think, at what point did she feel pressure if she felt pressured, and what guided her actions and reactions from that point. We really do need her to be free to speak out on these matters.

EMMETT MACFARLANE: Yes absolutely. That doesn't necessarily mean that any of these conversations crosses a threshold into your legality. I take the clerk at his word that he does not believe this came close to anything unlawful, but I am actually less interested in that because I don't think this whole thing is just about the law. I think that’s going to be a central point of the analysis and investigation but there's a broader concern about ethics here. So why is the standard just about lawful behavior? What is an appropriate standard just from a broader perspective of ethics? That is something I think Canadians need more light on so that they can reach their appropriate conclusions wealthier as well. 

LL: Althia Raj. 

ALTHIA RAJ: I think that you know this is the very first time that this has been discussed. Deferred prosecution agreements just come into effect in September 2013, so there is nothing that we can refer back to just say, well, this is how it was done in the past this would be inappropriate compared to that. I think it makes sense that you would still be able to communicate with the A.G. If something changed on the SNC Lavalin file and you know the A.G. - in this case she was from British Columbia and maybe it was a Quebec issue that was brought up surely at communicating with her about the file has to be lawful. The Clerk is adamant that it was entirely appropriate and lawful and legal what he did. And of course he would have that position because if the government, anybody in the prime minister's office, acted inappropriately they would probably be acting on the advice of the cleric. It would be his fault. So he of course has an interest in defending the government to say that they acted appropriately. I think there is too much there we don’t know. You know if she thought it was inappropriate what was happening, I do think it’s a good point to say well then why didn’t you say anything. Did you only say something after you were given a job you didn't like? We don’t even know if that’s really what led to her leaving cabinet, because she didn’t leave cabinet until the prime minister went and told the country that her presence in cabinet spoke for itself and everything was good in the cabinet Liberal family. So there are too many things that we don’t know and right now we just have basically anonymous sourcing in the Globe telling us what Jody Wilson-Raybould thinking is. 

NORMAN SPECTOR: We don't know if all this was hunky dory and lawful and ethical etc., is why the principal secretary the prime minister resigned. 

ALTHIA RAJ: He says he resigned so he can defend himself.

[Cross talking]

NORMAN SPECTOR: The more senior public servant has just dismissed it with the back of his hand.

LL: But that also brings up the point in terms of things that we don't yet know about that there was another conversation between Gerald Butz and Jody Wilson-Raybould that was not discussed at committee and we don't know what the content of that conversation was. 

NORMAN SPECTOR: And there is another conversation we don’t know about between somebody and Ms. Wilson-Raybould chief of staff Jessica Prince. 

LL: So lots of stuff that we don't know about yet. We do know that Jody Wilson-Raybould is slated to testify at the Justice Committee next week, when we hope we'll get some more of this filled in. But I just want to refer to another striking moment in Wernick's testimony where he said that the Globe and Mail article which broke this SNC story, contained quote "errors unfounded speculation and in some cases is simply defamatory". Now we reached out to the editor in chief for The Globe for a comment and he sent us a statement which said that Wernick's testimony confirms our reporting that a series of meetings with the attorney general took place after the independent prosecutor had issued what was said to be a final ruling. I also took note of the fact that the Clerk testified. He had spoken to Jody Wilson-Raybould as late as December. So Norman's Spector again what do you think how far did Michael Wernick's testimonies go to clarifying all of this?

NORMAN SPECTOR: Well I agree completely with the article in Globe and Mail insofar as this is also elements to the reporting but recalling that February 7th article towards the end, there were allegations that the court had rebuked the Minister Wilson-Raybould reboard on four occasions for speeches that she had made on indigenous rights, that in his view - and I suppose the view of the prime minister, the view of the government - went beyond the government's policy. So I think that's what he's probably referring to particularly when he use the term defamatory, where he said that it defamed him. and his position is that those were one on one meetings and only he and she can speak to them. But clearly she might have related the contents of those conversations. So we'd know for example, we don't know whether those allegations towards the end of the article were not correct. 

LL: Okay. Emmett MacFarlane you were concerned about Michael Wernick coming [unintelligible] not in a completely non-partisan yesterday. What did cross the line for you again?

EMMETT MACFARLANE: Well I'm not sure that anything necessarily crossed the line. I think it raised questions or raised my eyebrows as the fairly effusive praise in some of the language. You know you referred to Carolyn Benet the hardest working Canadian on the field. He was very similarly effusive in his language about the prime minister's actions and integrity. It just raise the question for me you know gave the impression of the kind of circling the wagons effect and a very human tendency. I mean I think this goes directly to what Althia was saying earlier. 

LL: Does it compromise his ability to do his job as clerk of the Privy Council? 

EMMETT MACFARLANE: No no. My concern is not that she actually necessarily holds bias but that he risked in his comments raising the perception of bias and I think that's an important distinction. 

LL: Alethea Raj last word to you what are you going to be watching for next in the SNC story? I bet I know the answer. 

ALTHIA RAJ: Well Jody Wilson-Raybould's testimony next week and then whether or not the committee decides to call Gerald Butz. And then all those questions that we talked about that we don't have to answer as to. But I think basically this is not SNC Lavalin. My own personal question that I would want answered is what does Jody Wilson-Raybould want may, because nobody has heard this prime minister purposefully more than she has. It is unclear to me what her motivation is. You know just this week when she stood in the House of Commons and said she wanted the opportunity to speak her truth. We didn't know about that. 

LL: We will have to leave it there I'm sure we'll all be watching intently next week. Thank you to all three of you. 

GUESTS: Thank you. Althia Raj is our bureau chief for The Huffington Post. She was in our Ottawa studio. Emmett MacFarlane is a political science professor at the University of Waterloo and we reached him in Waterloo. Norman Specter is a retired civil servant and a former diplomat who served as chief of staff under former conservative prime minister Brian Mulroney. He was in Victoria. Now we requested an interview with Michael Wernick and he declined. The CBC News is next. Then the FDA issues a warning on a controversial anti-ageing technique some Silicon Valley Titans were paying big bucks to access. So much for young blood transfusion. That's after the break. I'm Laura Lynch. I'm in Vancouver. You were listening to the Friday edition of The Current.

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David Amos

"Michael Wernick’s testimony felt like a circling of the wagons:"

Methinks thats because it was N'esy Pas?

Joshua Cannis

I don't know if anyone remembers, but back in 2015, Wernick went public with comments about a student protest that happened in Ontario, calling them 'brownshirts and Maoists'. He was only the Deputy in the PCO at the time, but it was still rather weird to have a high-ranking civil servant making those kinds of comments about public events in Ontario. He seems to have a tendency to be inflammatory and a bit histrionic.

rex king

@Joshua Cannis good to know!

David Amos

@Joshua Cannis I dealt with it immediately and published my emails about Wernick's nonsense Google my name and his and you can find what I state is true

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<Michael.Ferguson@oag-bvg.gc.ca>, "Marc.Mayrand"
<Marc.Mayrand@elections.ca>, "Yves.Cote"<Yves.Cote@elections.ca>,
Lampron.Raynald@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Friday.Joe@psic-ispc.gc.ca,
lachapelle.edith@psic-ispc.gc.ca, manon.hardy@chrc-ccdp.ca,
"Gilles.Moreau"<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Blinn"
<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

How could you forget this and make me explain your own work to you?

https://web.archive.org/web/20110623011437/http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inside-politics-blog/2011/02/digging-into-the-former-integrity-commissioners-cases.html

Digging into the former Integrity Commissioner's cases
February 8, 2011 1:18 PM |  By David McKie

"If you have any information or observations you'd like to share,
especially after studying the material in the attached spreadsheet,
please feel free to contact me at david_mckie@cbc.ca."

http://www.davidmckie.com/about-me/resume/

Clearly you are clever so why ask me questions then tell me you can't
look a your computer for a minute to verify what I am saying?

Clearly I saved your work. Michael FergusonI should understand why I
enjoyed this most of all

https://www.scribd.com/doc/50036820/Accountability-of-Agents-of-Parliament-E

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:14:45 -0400
Subject: Attn Anne-Marie Robinson, President, Public Service
Commission and Janice Charette Clerk of the Privy Council and
Secretary to the Cabinet
To: anne-marie.robinson@cfp-psc.gc.ca,
christine.donoghue@cfp-psc.gc.ca,
CFP.Enquetes-Investigations.PSC@cfp-psc.gc.ca,
cfp.emplois-jobs.psc@cfp-psc.gc.ca, info@pco-bcp.gc.ca,
Janice.Charette@pco-bcp.gc.ca, Root.Gorelick@carleton.ca,
bjhobin@hobinarc.com, "“chriscarruthersmd@gmail.com”"
<chriscarruthersmd@gmail.com>, dcraig@jlrichards.ca,
debra.armstrong@mbna.com, lindaanndaly@gmail.com,
oliver.javanpour@cyrusecho.com, pmerchant@ottawahospital.on.ca,
ronaldgjackson@gmail.com, rthompson@nac-can.ca,
tattersfield.anthony@rcgt.com, mmariano@toh.on.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
Michael.Wernick@pco-bcp.gc.ca, Chantale.Vachon@pco-bcp.gc.ca,
mediacentre@pco-bcp.gc.ca, radical <radical@radicalpress.com>,
"Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, oldmaison
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, merv <merv@northwebpress.com>, "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Blinn"
<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "ht.lacroix"<ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>,
"Robert. Jones"<Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>

Yo Michael Wernick

How about you ask the sneaky lawyer Ward P.D. Elcock what the PCO should do
when the FEDS have a citizen locked up  without charges or even a
warrant after running for public office four times in an effort to
shut him up? Was that the tactics of Brownshirts or Maoists?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1azdNWbF3A

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/07/feds-institutionalize-determined-nb.html

http://govinjustice.blogspot.ca/2008/07/david-amos-picked-up-by-rcmp.html

What if your family has been threatened and sexually harrassed etc for
13 years while the RCMP laughed at your concerns as they constantly
harrassed you for their own benefit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WEVX9YU6Tc&list=UUy8EcN1vBqTMe8fjF6mKD6g&index=14

https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/status/602650094370885632

David Raymond Amos ‏@DavidRayAmos
@GlenfordCanning @angelrehtaeh @pmharper @JulieSLalonde @RCMPNS
@edmontonpolice @RCMPNB Cops are well aware of this
https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/2015/05/22/justice-for-child-abusers-glenford-canning-and-david-amos/

Justice for Child Abusers Glenford Canning, and David Amos
by baconfatreport on May 22, 2015


https://baconfatreport.wordpress.com/2015/05/24/twenty-e-mails-last-night-from-david-amos/

Twenty E Mails Last Night From David Amos
by baconfatreport on May 24, 2015

I and hundreds of others it seems received about twenty mass
e-mailings from convicted and registered pedophile David Raymond Amos
of Halifax last night. These e-mails are totally unsolicited,
completely unwanted, poorly written, go on for ever and ever, and are…
spam. Damn, that’s a lot of spam! There is nothing David Raymond Amos
has to say or could say to anyone the planet… that anyone would want
to hear. David Raymond Amos is the product of incestuous sexual
congress betwixt his mother and  her brother a German Shepherd Dog.

Hey David! If you, little Glenford Canning, the boys at Frank
Magazine, and anonymous don’t like this humble blog…don’t read it!

Oh dear, call me “Maxwell” lol lol lol

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

http://gsacarleton.ca/2015/04/backgrounder-deputy-clerk-of-the-privy-council-and-member-of-the-carleton-university-board-of-governors-compares-peaceful-student-protest-to-nazi-terror/

From: , Michael <Michael.Wernick@pco-bcp.gc.ca>
Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2015 7:17 AM
To: “Root.Gorelick@CARLETON.CA” <Root.Gorelick@CARLETON.CA>,
“bjhobin@hobinarc.com” <bjhobin@hobinarc.com>,
“chriscarruthersmd@gmail.com” <chriscarruthersmd@gmail.com>,
“dcraig@jlrichards.ca” <dcraig@jlrichards.ca>,
“debra.armstrong@mbna.com” <debra.armstrong@mbna.com>,
“lindaanndaly@gmail.com” <lindaanndaly@gmail.com>,
“oliver.javanpour@cyrusecho.com” <oliver.javanpour@cyrusecho.com>,
“pmerchant@ottawahospital.on.ca” <pmerchant@ottawahospital.on.ca>,
“ronaldgjackson@gmail.com” <ronaldgjackson@gmail.com>,
“rthompson@nac-can.ca” <rthompson@nac-can.ca>, Tony Tattersfield
<tattersfield.anthony@rcgt.com>, “mmariano@toh.on.ca”
<mmariano@toh.on.ca>, “Vachon, Chantale”
<Chantale.Vachon@pco-bcp.gc.ca>
Cc: Michael MacNeil <MICHAEL_MACNEIL@CARLETON.CA>,
“Pam.GriffinHody@CARLETON.CA” <Pam.GriffinHody@CARLETON.CA>,
“pres@gsacarleton.ca” <pres@gsacarleton.ca>, “tkunz@sce.carleton.ca”
<tkunz@sce.carleton.ca>, “nfalvo@connect.carleton.ca”
<nfalvo@connect.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: 589th Meeting of the Board of Governors on 30 March 2015
With all respect you really are missing the point here.The physical
disruption and attempt to suppress the functioning of the lawful
governance of the university by shouting down speakers and breaking up
the meeting is the point.

It has no place in a lawful democratic society – it is the tactics of
Brownshirts and Maoists. It has no place in a university – it is the
antithesis of free speech and open debate.

What I would like to hear from the administration is what sanctions
will be brought upon the disruptors and how it proposes to protect the
peaceful lawful governance of the Board from being intimidated.

http://www.davidmckie.com/(David%20McKie,%20Sept.%2017,%202013)%20records%20re%20June%2014,%202012%20between%20Research%20in%20Motion%20and%20Wayne%20Wouters_A-2012-00274.pdf

Anne-Marie Robinson
President
Public Service Commission
22 Eddy Street
Gatineau, Quebec  K1A 0M7
Assistant: Lalig Papazian
Tel.: 819-420-6556

Christine Donoghue
Senior Vice-President
Policy Branch
Public Service Commission
22 Eddy Street
Gatineau, Quebec  K1A 0M7
Assistant: Angela Viau-Lalonde
Tel.: 819-420-8505



http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/ve/pda0708pr-eng.asp


Director's Office
Jurisdiction Directorate
Investigations Branch
22 Eddy Street
Gatineau, Quebec
K1A 0M7

Telephone: 819-420-8924
Fax: 819-420-8801
E-mail: CFP.Enquetes-Investigations.PSC@cfp-psc.gc.ca

Atlantic Region

Includes New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador and
Prince Edward Island

Maritime Centre Building
1505 Barrington Street
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 3K5

General questions on how to apply online: 1-888-780-4444
Information Line for Job Advertisements: 1-800-645-5605
TTY/TDD: 1-800-465-7735
Facsimile: 1-888-515-4447
E-mail: cfp.emplois-jobs.psc@cfp-psc.gc.ca

http://www.psc-cfp.gc.ca/abt-aps/bio/robinson-eng.htm

Anne-Marie Robinson, President

Photo of Anne-Marie Robinson

PDF Format, 480 kb

Ms. Anne-Marie Robinson was confirmed as President of the Public
Service Commission of Canada (PSC), effective February 15, 2012. She
had served as acting President since January 1, 2012. From June 2010
until her appointment as acting President of the PSC, she was
Associate Deputy Minister of Health Canada.

Ms. Robinson began her public service career in 1990 as an auditor for
Revenue Canada, Customs and Excise. In 1993, she joined the Management
Trainee Program and completed assignments at Industry Canada and
Indian Affairs and Northern Development. From 1995 to 1997, Ms.
Robinson held senior policy advisor positions related to Aboriginal
policy at the Department of Human Resources and the Privy Council
Office. In 1997, Ms. Robinson returned to Indian Affairs and Northern
Development where she served as Director of Policy for the Specific
Claims Program. In the fall of 2000, she joined the Accelerated
Executive Development Program and completed two assignments at Indian
Affairs and Northern Development: Director, Litigation Portfolio
Operations and Director General, Litigation Management Branch.

http://www.psc-cfp.gc.ca/spch-disc/2014/2014-10-28-eng.htm


Opening Remarks by Anne-Marie Robinson, President, Public Service
Commission of Canada at Senate National Finance Committee regarding
2014-2015 Estimates
October 28, 2014

Mr. Chair, Honourable Members, I am pleased to be here to discuss the
Public Service Commission’s Estimates for 2014-2015.

The mandate of the Public Service Commission is to promote and
safeguard merit-based staffing and, in collaboration with other
stakeholders, to protect the non-partisan nature of the public
service.



http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2009/02/06/pm-announces-changes-senior-ranks-public-service

Nicole Jauvin, currently President of the Canada Public Service
Agency, becomes Senior Advisor to the Privy Council Office to
co-ordinate the establishment of the two new regional economic
development agencies, pending her next Deputy Minister assignment. -



Message from the President of the Canada Public Service Agency

As the policy centre for the Public Servants Disclosure Protection
Act, the Canada Public Service Agency is pleased to provide this
report on activities related to the Act as carried out by federal
public sector organizations during 2007–08.

A great deal of progress has been made during the first year of the
Act's implementation. Knowledge and understanding of the Act is
spreading throughout the public sector, thanks to innovative
communications activities and training for employees. We have also
seen organizations take significant steps toward establishing their
own codes of conduct. As this report shows, federal public sector
employees have also begun to use the Act.

We are off to a strong start. In 2008–09, we will continue to support
chief executives and their employees in building awareness of the Act
and finding ways to facilitate its administration. We will also
continue to provide organizations with leadership on values and ethics
and work with stakeholders to promote ethical practices throughout the
public sector.

The paper version was signed by

Nicole Jauvin, President Canada Public Service Agency


Summary

The Public Servants Disclosure Protection Act (PSDPA) is a significant
part of the Government's actions to increase the trust and confidence
of Canadians in the public sector. While wrongdoing is rare in the
Canadian public sector, it is important to have mechanisms in place
that allow each case of suspected wrongdoing to be dealt with in a
manner that maintains the confidence of Canadians, while allowing
effective and efficient operation of public sector organizations.

The Act requires that public sector organizations report annually to
the Canada Public Service Agency on activities related to disclosures
made under the Act and that the Agency submit a report outlining these
activities to the Minister for tabling in each House of Parliament.
This is the first such report, and it presents an analysis of initial
activities under the Act.

During the first year since the Act came into force, there has been a
great deal of progress in implementation throughout the public sector.
Organizations have taken significant steps to embody the key concepts
of the Act in their activities, and are responding appropriately to
allegations of wrongdoing. Likewise, public sector employees have
responded by trusting and using the procedures established under the
Act.

Nevertheless, more work remains ahead to ensure that all public sector
employees are well informed of the protections provided by the Act,
and that leaders at all levels clearly understand their
responsibilities with respect to disclosure and, more generally, in
promoting ethical practices in the workplace.

The Agency will continue to support implementation of the PSDPA and
looks forward to the establishment of the new code of conduct for the
federal public sector and related codes in federal public sector
organizations.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718760/federal-commissioner

http://www.pco-bcp.gc.ca/index.asp?lang=eng&page=clerk-greffier

http://www.pco-bcp.gc.ca/index.asp?lang=eng&page=org&doc=text-eng.htm


Janice Charette
Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet
•Michael Wernick
Deputy Clerk of the Privy Council and Associate Secretary to the Cabinet

•Stephen Rigby
National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister
◦Ward P.D. Elcock
Special Advisor on Human Smuggling
◦David McGovern
Senior Advisor to the Privy Council Office
Border Action Plan Implementation & regulatory Cooperation Council
■Bob Carberry
Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Regulatory Cooperation Council
■Kevin O'Shea
A/Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Border Action Plan Implementation


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 22:17:49 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Attn Christine Elliott as soon as I saw that Paul
Godfrey and Derek Burney were behind the lawyer Patrick Brown I
understood the game Did You?
To: kganley@mcgownjohnson.com, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, pm
<pm@pm.gc.ca>, "peter.mackay"<peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca>, MulcaT
<MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, Glen Canning
<grcanning@gmail.com>, michael@frankmagazine.ca,
blake@frankmagazine.ca, comment@contrarian.ca,
andrew@frankmagazine.ca, "justmin@gov.ns.ca"<justmin@gov.ns.ca>,
andrewjdouglas@gmail.com, patrick_doran1 <patrick_doran1@hotmail.com>,
Mad Ape <chiefape@gmail.com>, "john.green"<john.green@gnb.ca>,
"steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "ht.lacroix"
<ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>, GlenMuise1000 <GlenMuise1000@gmail.com>,
"bob.paulson"<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "steven.blaney"
<steven.blaney.a1@parl.gc.ca>

 You received a new 0:12 minutes voicemail message, on
Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 04:55:27 PM in mailbox 9028000369
from 6139953708.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 13:13:06 -0400
Subject: RE The OGGO Committee and Commissioner Joe Friday I will be
calling some of your offices shortly to inform you of an important
response to this document from his office in Feb/08
To: greg.kerr@parl.gc.ca, Mark.Adler@parl.gc.ca, Wai.Young@parl.gc.ca,
chris.warkentin@parl.gc.ca, Tarik.Brahmi@parl.gc.ca,
Mathieu.Ravignat@parl.gc.ca, eddieorrell@bellaliant.com,
chuck@chuckporter.ca, JamieBaillie@gov.ns.ca, PREMIER
<PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, acampbell
<acampbell@ctv.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,
"steve.murphy"<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, "bob.paulson"
<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "roger.l.brown"
<roger.l.brown@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>, premier
<premier@gnb.ca>, premier <premier@gov.pe.ca>, premier
<premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, Clemet1
<Clemet1@parl.gc.ca>, MulcaT <MulcaT@parl.gc.ca>, Karine Fortin
<info@ndp.ca>

Hey

Whereas political people pretend that they don't read my pdf files I
will offer them a photo of the response and read it to them over the
phone if they wish

Need I say why I retweeted this?

https://twitter.com/MRavignat

Mathieu Ravignat @MRavignat  ·  Mar 12
The interim Public Sector Integrity Commissioner refused to appear at
OGGO today, what a lack of transparency from the government!

Lets just say say I downloaded and saved then watched these webcasts
several times with great interest after I watched the webcast of April
28th. After my recent conversations with the OGGO clerk and several
others I suspect that you all know why by now.


http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/Parlvu/ContentEntityDetailView.aspx?contententityid=12671&date=20150301&lang=en

http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/Parlvu/ContentEntityDetailView.aspx?contententityid=12726&date=20150301&lang=en

Everybody knows that I have been calling Joe Friday and his many
cohorts liars for years and saved the proof of what I say is true
Correct? Check this out before you dare to disagree.

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/David%20R%20Amos%20-%20lots%20of%20e-mails.pdf

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

http://www.parl.gc.ca/CommitteeBusiness/CommitteeMembership.aspx?IncMem=1&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=2&Cmte=OGGO

Greg Kerr
Hill Office Telephone: 613-995-5711
Constituency Office Telephone: 902-742-6808

Mark Adler
Hill Office Telephone: 613-941-6339
Constituency Office Telephone: 416-638-3700

Wai Young
Hill Office Telephone: 613-995-7052
Constituency Office Telephone: 604-775-5323

Chris Warkentin
Hill Office Telephone: 613-992-5685
Constituency Office Telephone: 780-538-1677

Tarik Brahmi
Hill Office Telephone: 613-992-5296
Constituency Office Telephone: 450-357-9100

Mathieu Ravignat
Hill Office Telephone: 613-995-3950
Constituency Office Telephone: 819-648-2003


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Elliott-co, Christine"<christine.elliottco@pc.ola.org>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 17:00:31 +0000
Subject: RE: RE I just called Pat Martin and Brad Butt about
Commissioner Joe Friday and his testimony before the OGGO Committee on
April 28th
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Mr. Amos.  I am writing to acknowledge receipt of the 2 emails that
you have forwarded to Ms. Elliott's office.  I will bring them to her
attention at the earliest opportunity.

Constituency Staff
Office of Christine Elliott
MPP, Whitby-Oshawa


-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 9:32 AM
To: Elliott-co, Christine; christine@christineelliott.ca;
derek.burney@nortonrosefulbright.com; christina.blizzard@sunmedia.ca;
premier; pm; premier; premier; PREMIER; premier; premier; premier;
premier; premier
Cc: David Amos
Subject: Fwd: RE I just called Pat Martin and Brad Butt about
Commissioner Joe Friday and his testimony before the OGGO Committee on
April 28th


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 17:26:48 -0400
Subject: I just called Pat Martin and Brad Butt about Commissioner Joe
Friday and his testimony before the OGGO Committee on April 28th
To: pm@pm.gc.ca, Lampron.Raynald@psic-ispc.gc.ca,
Friday.Joe@psic-ispc.gc.ca, lachapelle.edith@psic-ispc.gc.ca,
brad.butt@parl.gc.ca, pat.martin@parl.gc.ca, OGGO@parl.gc.ca,
manon.hardy@chrc-ccdp.ca, "Gilles.Moreau"
<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Blinn"
<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "David.Coon"
<David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Stephen.Horsman"<Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>

http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/PARLVU/ContentEntityDetailView.aspx?contententityid=12872&date=20150401&lang=en


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 13:01:14 -0700
Subject: Mr Lampron can ya tell I hate it when people call me a liar?
Furthermore why would you ignore an email from your boss?
To: Raynald Lampron <Lampron.Raynald@psic-ispc.gc.ca>, "Dion.Mario"
<Dion.Mario@psic-ispc.gc.ca>, Joe Friday <Friday.Joe@psic-ispc.gc.ca>,
"bob.paulson"<bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Clemet1
<Clemet1@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Randall.Garrison.c1"
<Randall.Garrison.c1@parl.gc.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mario Dion <Dion.Mario@psic-ispc.gc.ca>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 06:05:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Fwd: Yo Mario Dion it been over a year since your last
response and 7 years since I talked to the evil lawyer Manon Hardy so
tell me another one will ya?
To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
"manon.hardy@chrc-ccdp.ca"<manon.hardy@chrc-ccdp.ca>,
"Clemet1@parl.gc.ca"<Clemet1@parl.gc.ca>,
"Errington.john@forces.gc.ca"<Errington.john@forces.gc.ca>,
"Christine.Salt@forces.gc.ca"<Christine.Salt@forces.gc.ca>,
"Mackap@parl.gc.ca"<Mackap@parl.gc.ca>, "bourdap@halifax.ca"
<bourdap@halifax.ca>, "Helen.Banulescu@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca"
<Helen.Banulescu@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca>, Edith Lachapelle
<Lachapelle.Edith@psic-ispc.gc.ca>, "peter.dauphinee@gmail.com"
<peter.dauphinee@gmail.com>, "upriverwatch@gmail.com"
<upriverwatch@gmail.com>, "donald.bowser@smu.ca"
<donald.bowser@smu.ca>, "kedgwickriver@gmail.com"
<kedgwickriver@gmail.com>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "COCMoncton@gmail.com"<COCMoncton@gmail.com>,
"Davidc.Coon@gmail.com"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
"stephen.horsman@nbliberal.ca"<stephen.horsman@nbliberal.ca>,
"forest@conservationcouncil.ca"<forest@conservationcouncil.ca>,
"water@ccnbaction.ca"<water@ccnbaction.ca>
Cc: "david.raymond.amos@gmail.com"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
Raynald Lampron <Lampron.Raynald@psic-ispc.gc.ca>, Joe Friday
<Friday.Joe@psic-ispc.gc.ca>

I will ask my staff to verify your status and someone will get back to
you. I would appreciate it however if you could be a little bit more
polite when drafting emails adressed to me.

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:23:59 -0700
Subject: Fwd: Yo Mario Dion it been over a year since your last
response and 7 years since I talked to the evil lawyer Manon Hardy so
tell me another one will ya?
To: Dion.Mario@psic-ispc.gc.ca, manon.hardy@chrc-ccdp.ca, Clemet1
<Clemet1@parl.gc.ca>, Errington.john@forces.gc.ca,
Christine.Salt@forces.gc.ca, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca>,
bourdap@halifax.ca, Helen.Banulescu@crcc-ccetp.gc.ca,
lachapelle.edith@psic-ispc.gc.ca, "peter.dauphinee"
<peter.dauphinee@gmail.com>, upriverwatch <upriverwatch@gmail.com>,
Donald Bowser <donald.bowser@smu.ca>, kedgwickriver
<kedgwickriver@gmail.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, COCMoncton
<COCMoncton@gmail.com>, "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
"stephen.horsman"<stephen.horsman@nbliberal.ca>, forest
<forest@conservationcouncil.ca>, "es. \"water\""<water@ccnbaction.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:18:03 -0700
Subject: Yo Mario Dion it been over a year since your last response
and 7 years since I talked to the evil lawyer Manon Hardy so tell me
another one will ya?
To: Dion.Mario@psic-ispc.gc.ca, manon.hardy@chrc-ccdp.ca, Clemet1
<Clemet1@parl.gc.ca>, Errington.john@forces.gc.ca,
Christine.Salt@forces.gc.ca, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca>,
lachapelle.edith@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Jessica Hume
<jessica.hume@sunmedia.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"
<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>,
"Gilles.Moreau"<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, leader
<leader@greenparty.ca>, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>, "james.goodman"
<james.goodman@forces.gc.ca>, louis-philippe.rouillard@forces.gc.ca,
maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>,
Helen.Banulescu@cpc-cpp.gc.ca, barbara.hayduk@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, bourdap
<bourdap@halifax.ca>, justmin <justmin@gov.ns.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca,
pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, alan.white@cbc.ca

Wednesday, 11 September 2013 YEA RIGHT Tell me another Mario Dion I
have been waiting to you crooks in Public Sector Integrity to act
honestly since 2004


http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/06/fwd-privacy-czar-to-probe-canadian.html

Check the last page of thi file before your people call me a liar again

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf

Better yet ask the crooked lawyer Manon Hardy where she his all the
documents and CD I sent your office in 2007

http://www.psic-ispc.gc.ca/about_apropos/menu-eng.aspx

From: Mario Dion <Dion.Mario@psic-ispc.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:23:07 -0400
Subject: Out of Office: Re High Water AB, McBride BC and Fat Fred City
NB Clearly Landslide Annie McLellan, the RCMP and the CROWN do not
know common law is for common folks too EH?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be away from the office until September 15th inclusively. In
case of emergency, please contact Monique Halloran at (613) 941-6400.

Je serai absent du bureau jusqu'au 15 septembre inclusivement. En cas
d'urgence, veuillez communiquer avec Monique Halloran au (613)
941-6400.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:23:15 -0400
Subject: WOW
To: Errington.john@forces.gc.ca, Christine.Salt@forces.gc.ca, Mackap
<Mackap@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, sunrayzulu <
sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>

http://www.army.gc.ca/iaol/143000440000292/143000440000293/index-Eng.html

http://nslegislature.ca/index.php/people/members/John_MacDonell/

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:00:39 -0400
Subject: Ms Lachapelle and her boss crook Mario Dion should understand
by now that I hate it when corrupt bureaucrats all me a liar
To: lachapelle.edith@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Jessica Hume
<jessica.hume@sunmedia.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"
<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>,
"Gilles.Moreau"<Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, leader
<leader@greenparty.ca>, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: maxnews <maxnews@astral.com>, "criminal.division"
<criminal.division@usdoj.gov>, David Amos
<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, campaigns
<campaigns@democracywatch.ca>, calgary.mountainview@assembly.ab.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
To: <lachapelle.edith@psic-ispc.gc.ca>;
<Janet.MacLean@international.gc.ca>;
<Maggie.Trudel-Maggiore@dfo-mpo.gc.ca>; <Neil.Yeates@cic.gc.ca>;
<elisabeth.nadeau@ps-sp.gc.ca>; <tpulcine@privcom.gc.ca>;
<dgrandmaitre@gg.ca>; "Mackap"<Mackap@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: <louis-philippe.rouillard@forces.gc.ca>; "maritime_malaise"
<maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>; <Helen.Banulescu@cpc-cpp.gc.ca>;
<barbara.hayduk@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:43 PM
Subject: Fwd: UNESCO should ask many of their associates about this
email starting with former Governor General Ms Jean and the ex CBC
dude Don Newman


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:29:00 -0300
Subject: UNESCO should ask many of their associates about this email
starting with former Governor General Ms Jean and the ex CBC dude Don
Newman
To: David.Walden@unesco.ca, bairdj <bairdj@parl.gc.ca>, Mackap
<Mackap@parl.gc.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,
"Frank. McKenna"<Frank.McKenna@td.com>, oldmaision
<oldmaision@yahoo.com>, webo <webo@xplornet.com>, drcarley
<drcarley@gmail.com>, generalportal55 <generalportal55@hotmail.com>,
nickysbirdy <nickysbirdy@yahoo.ca>, Alex Hunter <ahunter100@shaw.ca>,
craig batley <batleycraig@yahoo.ca>
Cc: LaytoJ <LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>, leader@greenparty.ca, mourama
<mourama@parl.gc.ca>, "rick. skinner"<rick.skinner@dhs.gov>,
maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 14:47:21 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
alive
To: "greg.weston"<greg.weston@cbc.ca>, Don
<Don@blueskystrategygroup.com>, "info@pco-bcp.gc.ca"
<info@pco-bcp.gc.ca>, "info@gg.ca"<info@gg.ca>,
sweet_rob@hotmail.com, maritime_malaise <maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca>,
tracy <tracy@jatam.org>, birgittajoy <birgittajoy@gmail.com>
Cc: "alan.white"<alan.white@cbc.ca>, "Wayne.Lang"
<Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, danfour <danfour@myginch.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
alive
To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.

Le ministre de la Défense nationale accuse réception de votre
courriel. Celui-ci sera examiné en temps opportun. Veuillez ne pas
répondre à ce courriel puisque la présente est une réponse
automatique.


Clearly I coorected some of my spelling before I forwarded this emal to
others

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca,
william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>,
dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
<smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
susan@blueskystrategygroup.com, Don@blueskystrategygroup.com,
eugene@blueskystrategygroup.com, americas@aljazeera.net
Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice"<Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower
<whistleblower@ctv.ca>

I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
Health Caree system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
CAPACduring her last days in office as if she were eoh so
elthical.. To be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938)
I suggested that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It
would be wise if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes
something else about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that
your old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
interesting though

http://www.blueskystrategygroup.com/index.php/team/don-newman/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/media/story/2010/05/04/al-jazeera-english-launch.html

Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right


The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not
a shy political animal

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

Enjoy Mr Weston

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/2011/05/15/weston-iraq-invasion-wikileaks.html


"But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
including a Canadian general.

That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."

http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/06/canada-and-united-states.html

"I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
"veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
into the US policy.

At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation.There was
never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
were deployed WMD.

Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
(and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.

There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
upon."What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions are
to met before US troop can redeploy?

Prime Minister Jean Chretien and the PMO were even at the very
preliminary planning stages wary of Canadian involvement in an Iraq
operation....History would prove them correct. The political pressure
being applied on the PMO from the George W Bush administration was
onerous

American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
....not necessarily in that order. "

You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
Adams? of the CSE within the DND?

http://www.socom.mil/SOCOMHome/Pages/ContactUSSOCOM.aspx



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 20:42:46 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Response to your calls of April 9 and May 12, 2010
To: Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, Barry Winters
<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, dean Ray
<deanr0032@hotmail.com>, dean <dean@law.ualberta.ca>, danadurf
<danadurf@hotmail.com>, Richard Harris
<injusticecoalition@hotmail.com>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "Edith. Cody-Rice"<Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>,
"terry.seguin"<terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, "john.adams"
<john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca>, "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"
<william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles. Blinn"
<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca>, toewsv1
<toewsv1@mts.net>
Cc: "Harper.S@parl.gc.ca"<Harper.S@parl.gc.ca>, IgnatM
<IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>, LaytoJ <LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>, "Duceppe. G"
<Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca>, "Frank. McKenna"<Frank.McKenna@td.com>,
"jack.macdougall"<jack.macdougall@greenparty.ca>, fundytides
<fundytides@gmail.com>, panb <panb@bellaliant.net>, carlbainbridge
<carlbainbridge@panb.org>, guergh <guergh@parl.gc.ca>,
"Arthur.A@parl.gc.ca"<Arthur.A@parl.gc.ca>, dthomas@mta.ca

Thanx for the response but you must be joking. My complaint was that
your chickenshit Military Police refused to investigate and thought my
troubles were funny. GET IT? However the sad but terrible part is I
know that you are not joking. If it were not for men such as David
Thomas speaking up in the Town where I was born i would not be a very
proud Canadian today.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/05/14/nb-mount-allison-university-heather-reisman-609.html?ref=rss

Check out this blog from two years agoo. Howcome the CROWN CORP known
as the CBC does not show us a tally like that as they tell us who got
killed on our behalf on a regular basis? Notice Heather Reisman's
name?

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/06/netherlands-prime-minister-visits.html

Now Google mine and Bernie Madoff. Here is a shortcut
http://www.google.ca/search?q=bernie+madoff+david+amos&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&redir_esc=&ei=Qd7tS9beD8KC8gar2dX9Cg
Then Go Figure why I am pissed as I watch zionists threaten my famiily
and pound on the drums for war as their financial backers get awards
in my nativeland and attend Biliderberger meetings with none other
than the corrupt bankster Frank MacKenna and John Adams the boss of
the CSE?



Your lawyers can trust that the link I provide below are to a very
serious pdf file and that it is no joke. FYI if you bother to look you
will see that the Governor General as Commander in Chief of our Armed
Forces has already admitted to receiving two sets of the hard copy of
some of my documents and two CDs from me already and suggested that I
take my concerns to court long before we started losing people
overseas at quite a rate. Trust that legions of CROWN attornies
already have their fancy knickers in a knot.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right

Need I say that to me your Commission is just another bunch of
chickenshit bureaucrats like all the rest? So please allow me to
introduce you to the evil bastard himself He is purportedly Barry K.
Winters if not at least that is his email address.

I must say I find it interesting the the Russians care more about my
battles with a zionist than the very people in my nativeland who
employ him. Interesting EH Mr Harper and Iggy?

No need to enlist me into the Privy Council and swear me to secrecy,
It is not National Security I am concerned about it is the security
and well being of my family. I am gonna do my best to make sure the
Russians, Chinese and Iranians know EVERYTHING that you and the
Yankees know about my concerns as a whistleblower about financial
crimes etc. Why not if your employee can brag about planning wars and
advocating the m urder of my family talking about what I know of
banksters etc is small potatoes EH Franky boy McKenna, Jacky Boy
MacDougall and of cousr your pal arty Baby Mackay?

Just Dave
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That said I must ask Raymonde Cléroux the obvious question after what
you witnessed in "Barry K' Winters" blog howcome your did not call the
RCMP if not the Military Police yourself? Scroll down and try to
figure out a proper answer as to whether or not the evil zionist broke
an oath or two as it pertains to Canada's plans to make war with Iraq
in 2002.

http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2009/08/what-does-amerika-truther-movment-god.html
(I inserted the text below)

And within the info many of my YOUTUBES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-y5femNycE
BTW the RCMP and the Edmonton PD have refused to do anything so rest
assured I will take care of the evil bastard myself in an ethical and
rather stylish fashion. As I said NOBODY sexually harasses and
threatens to kill my children. However I will file a lawsuit against
the CROWN to cover my butt before I kick his. Perhaps you should
worry about your pocketbook in the "Mean" time.

Perhaps your lawyers should review the CROWN Liabilty Act as if
pertains to the CSE and the DND then study every word of that
zionist's malicious blog to see if I am wrong about why the
commissioner of the Human Rights Commission would not defend her own
reputation.. No matter how secretive the CSE and the RCMP may be at
least you admitted to the knowledge of the death threats and sexual
harassment of my children after I have been complaining of your
associate for over a year. Tell me why I don't sue you dudes
personally starting with Colonel Pearson and his idiot assistant Lt
Col Tony Weber who think everything is too funny and don't wish their
military police to bother to act within the scope of their employment
just like you would not EH?

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:31:32 -0300
Subject: Re: Yo Corey W. Joyce Then introduce me to YOUR lawyer ASAP
To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "john.adams"
<john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca>, IgnatM <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>, LaytoJ
<LaytoJ@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, Barry Winters
<sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, "john.logan"<john.logan@gnb.ca>

On 8/23/10, DECPR@forces.gc.ca<DECPR@forces.gc.ca> wrote:
> Please cease and desist any and all communications with this address. Your
> communications thus far have been inflamatory and constitute harassment.
>
>
>>Corey W. Joyce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 23, August, 2010 11:10 AM
> To: +DECPR@ADM(PA)@Ottawa-Hull; Barry Winters; ndpaocal@nucleus.com;
> Ken.Zielke
> Cc: Mackap; IgnatM; john.adams; robin reid; tony; Robert. Jones; Eidt,
David
> (OAG/CPG); PATRICK. MURPHY; rick. skinner
> Subject: Yo Corey W. Joyce
>
> Then perhaps you should not read YOUR ASSOCIATE'S words EH pussy?
>
> *http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010_06_01_archive.html
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: DECPR@forces.gc.ca
> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:55:01 -0400
> Subject: RE: Attn Corey Joyce how about an answer in WRITING just like I
> demanded on the phone Just now
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Your e-mail has been forwarded for action/response by another directorate.
>
> This e-mail constitutes all the response you will get from this office
and I
> respectfully advise you not to contact me again. Your tone and language
> were insulting and I will not converse with you when you speak to me with
a
> complete lack of respect and with vulgar language.
>
>
>>Corey W. Joyce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos [mailto:david.raymond.amos@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 23, August, 2010 10:54 AM
> To: +DECPR@ADM(PA)@Ottawa-Hull; Edith. Cody-Rice; IgnatM;
> ndpaoatlantic@ns.aliantzinc.ca
> Cc: Mackap; john.adams
> Subject: Attn Corey Joyce how about an answer in WRITING just like I
> demanded on the phone Just now
>
> National Defence Headquarters
> MGen George R. Pearkes Bldg, 15NT
> 101 Colonel By Drive
> Ottawa, ON Canada K1A 0K2
>
> (613) 996-9266
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:17:00 -0300
> Subject: Re: FW: Response to your calls of April 9 and May 12, 2010
> To: "Weir, Sarah"<sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca>, Mackap <Mackap@parl.gc.ca
>,
> "john.adams"<john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca>, commission@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca,
> media@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, "Ken.Zielke"
> <Ken.Zielke@gov.ab.ca>, "peter.teasdale"<peter.teasdale@gov.ab.ca>,
> "william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca"<william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> "mike.mcdonell"<mike.mcdonell@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
> Cc: robin reid <zorroboy2009@hotmail.com>, tony <tony@peoplestandup.ca>,
> "PATRICK. MURPHY"<PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov>, "rick. skinner"
> <rick.skinner@dhs.gov>, "oldmaison@yahoo.com"
> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
>
>
> Thanx for the SECOND Response but you bureaucrat really should learn to
read
> don't ya think?
>
> On 8/23/10, Weir, Sarah <sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca> wrote:
>> Good morning Mr. Amos,
>>
>>
>>
>> Following your phone call of August 19, 2010, please note that we did
>> reply to your previous messages by e-mail (see below). Unfortunately
>> your complaint is not pertaining to the conduct of Military Police
>> members in the performance of policing duty or function.
>>
>>
>>
>> As mentioned below, if your complaint pertains to a life threatening
>> matter, please contact your local police force.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Raymonde Cléroux
>>
>> Registrar
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Cleroux, Raymonde
>> Sent: May 14, 2010 11:51 AM
>> To: 'david.raymond.amos@gmail.com'
>> Subject: Response to your calls of April 9 and May 12, 2010
>>
>>
>>
>> Good morning Mr. Amos,
>>
>>
>>
>> The following is further to your telephone calls of April 9 and May
>> 12, 2010.
>>
>>
>>
>> The mandate of the Military Police Complaints Commission is triggered
>> when a complaint is made pertaining to the conduct of Military Police
>> members in the performance of a policing duty or function as
>> prescribed in the Complaints About the Conduct of Members of the Military
>> Police Regulations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on a review of the information you provided, it would appear
>> that you do not have a complaint against a Military Police member. As
>> such, it would seem that your complaint does not fall within the
>> Complaints Commission's mandate.
>>
>>
>>
>> However if your complaint pertains to a life threatening matter, we
>> suggest that you contact your local police force.
>>
>>
>>
>> For further information on the Military Police Complaints Commission
>> or to learn more about its mandate, please visit the Commission website
>> at:
>> **www.mpcc-cppm.qc.ca<**http://**www.mpcc-cppm.qc.ca/> .
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Raymonde Cléroux
>>
>> Registrar / Greffière
>>
>> Military Police Complaints Commission
>>
>> Commission d'examen des plaintes concernant
>>
>> la police militaire
>>
>>
>
>


From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:14:50 -0300
Subject: Lt-Col. Tony Weber can't say I didn't warn him that Mr
Baconfat's blog would embarass him EH MacKay?
To: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca,
information@forces.gc.ca, milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca,
lwindsor@unb.ca, "Tim.RICHARDSON"<Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca>,
"info@gg.ca"<info@gg.ca>, stoffp1 <stoffp1@parl.gc.ca>,
"info@pco-bcp.gc.ca"<info@pco-bcp.gc.ca>, jwilson@unb.ca, tracy
<tracy@jatam.org>, mptacek@unb.ca, staples.michael@dailygleaner.com,
"jonesr@cbc.ca"<jonesr@cbc.ca>
Cc: Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>, dean Ray
<deanr0032@hotmail.com>, danadurf <danadurf@hotmail.com>,
"oldmaison@yahoo.com"<oldmaison@yahoo.com>, Richard Harris
<injusticecoalition@hotmail.com>, "bert. hudon"
<bert.hudon@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "PATRICK. MURPHY"
<PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov>, "rick. skinner"<rick.skinner@dhs.gov>

http://dailygleaner.canadaeast.com/search/article/940651

Interesting document Weber's boss wrote EH DRs Windsor and Charters?

www.cfc.forces.gc.ca/papers/amsc/amsc7/pearson.doc

http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/04/some-where-in-streets-and-alleys.html

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Barry Winters <sunrayzulu@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:25:13 -0600
Subject: Re: Yo Iggy Methinks Harper will read this email on a bad
day. Perhaps you should to EH? After all it is largely addressed to
you.
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

April 10, 2010
Some where in the streets and alleys tonight
Some where in the alleys of New Brusnswick and Calgary are two uneducated
bums, another day closer to their demise. They are homeless, shiftless,
uneducated, loud, obnoxious and insane ...for these "people" death now is
better than another day of life...they have made nothing of their
lives...and are nothing but a burden to their families, "friends" and
the....tax payer.

David Amosis reduced now to the staus of bum, wandering about asking people
for spare change, and scouring the streets for ciggerrette butts to smoke.
When he gets some change he does this sort of thing.

I managed to talk to a Lieutenant-Colonel Tony Weber isActing Base Commander
of Base Gagetown 506 422 2000 ext 1410. He and one of his Sgt Majors even
looked at Barry Winter's blog forme.
We seemed to get along as we discussed their vague knowledge ofpoliticians,
Afganistan, other officers they claimed to have neverheard of, the CSE, our
missing emails and the words within BarryWinters blog. the Lt Col truly
seemed like an ok dude.

But the instanthe said that Barry Winters malicious words were of no
embarassment tohim I got pissed all over again. Imagine if such shit had
beenpublished by a former officer about him or his family? I bet he
wouldhave sued his bosses long ago if winters had not be locked
upimmediately.

Anyway I told the Lt Col that I would see him in courtand hung up on the
snobby bastard and split before the RCMP attemptedto corner me in another
phone boooth like they did for another one ofHarper's former Minister Greggy
Baby Thompson's evil minions two yearsago. Small wonder he is quiting
politics EH IGGY?

Oh Dear....how far has the "real deal" the "ethical whistle blower" has
fallen.
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Methinks I have every right to say that the folks get the governments they deserve when apathy rules the day N'esy Pas?

 
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A decade after calling for extensive amalgamations, Finn report author sees few changes

41 Comments

 
Les Cooper

Alot of rural areas go to cities and use their facilities. I can see why they would want to almagumat.

 
Les Cooper

The Atlantic Provinces should be alalgmated!

Les Cooper

@Les Cooper Combine all 3 and get rid of all the politions that are bleeding the little provinces dry.
And we could have a bigger say in
Canada. The 3 provinces are to small to stay afloat.

david robertson

Worst thing you can hear ! I'm from the gov't and I am here to help you!

 
maude windsor

local governance should be developed at the political level closest to the people they are representing. schoolboards should collect taxes locally and spend $$$ on local schools (this is important because if parents want academically superior schools they will pay for it....no school taxes should be sent to fredericton! as for french factor the federal government under BNAct must pay 100% costs of building and operating the private schools called 'francophone' that only allow french speaking student s of french speaking parents...today, in any school district where parents are concerned their public schools prepare students for university or jobs there must be bilingual schools that represent countries NB will be trading with..like arabic, mandarin, gaelic,ukranian,etc.-----large municipal clusters are liked by politicians because there are so many more local politicians voted in...--it is time also that the training area of DND in gagetown must be returned to the families thrown off these lands..the base training is costing too much for Trudeau's military.........................

David Amos
 @maude windsor Methinks unless you are homeless like I was for 14 years then you live within a municipality of some sort. Everybody knows all taxes are sourced from us be it income tax, property tax, sales tax, gas tax, vehicle registration, speeding tickets fines etc etc etc. Most of the money goes to Ottawa or Fredericton. The municipal politicians then have to beg for scraps while we pay NB Power a horrendous rate just to keep the street lights on.

My heart goes out to all municipal politicians if they are ethical because they live among us where the rubber meets the road if you are lucky enough to dodge the potholes. However everybody knows that certain municipal politicians definitely I do not trust as far as I could throw them and have said so openly for many years particularly while running for public office myself. This domain is just one example of my stating my opinions openly yet in return I only hear crickets or insults from my political opponents N'esy Pas?












 
Mike Decoste

Amalgamation means politicians might lose power. Is it really necessary to have 3 mayors and 25 councillors paid by taxpayers to run the Moncton are area? And why does NB need more civil servants per population than any province in Canada? Perhaps this is why the taxes are so high in NB.

David Amos

@Mike Decoste How about Sussex and Sussex Corner being separate? Methinks that is a dumb one too N'esy Pas?

 
Robert Brannen

But for the acquiescence of King George III to a pressure by UEL refugees for a colony of their own, due to a dislike for governance of Nova Scotia from Halifax, Canada would have nine viable provinces today.

David Amos

@Robert Brannen YUP But Methinks the Crown forgot to write us a constitution in 1784 and have never bothered to since That is why the Feds have to edit their Charter now and then like when New Brunswick wanted a Language Commissioner etc N'esy Pas?

 

Laurie Clark

If someone wants something done in NB, they should know by now that you have to talk to the Irvings! They have been running this province for far too long and it doesn't matter what the name of the party in "power" is!

David Amos

@Laurie Clark Oh So True However methinks Mr Higgs must know that my Father made the Irving Clan pay their fair share of property taxes when he was alive and Mayor Don Darling was in kindergarten in Fredericton N'esy Pas?

Emery Hyslop-Margison

@Laurie Clark There is much truth in your comment - sort of public knowledge in New Brunswick isn't it? I've been concerned with some of Premier HIggs issues of focus given their obvious connection to Irving interests. However, I think he's done a reasonable job so far overall and should be given a chance to make the tough decisions the province requires to get back on the rails after decades of mismanagement. I figure he's got another 18 months to demonstrate he can achieve this objective. Otherwise, we elect one of the emerging parties.

maude windsor

@Emery Hyslop-Margison ask scott brison and justin trudeau about the Irving's lobbying!!! poor vice admiral norman lost his life work of distinguished service by not giving the ship contract to the Irvings.....
NB&Alberta should form a liason as 80%of albertans are NBers....
this would serve NB economic development.........

David Amos

@maude windsor Methinks you have better luck asking me what I know about that malicious nonsense. Anyone can Google "David Amos Mark Norman" N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@maude windsor "ask scott brison and justin trudeau about the Irving's lobbying!!! poor vice admiral norman lost his life work of distinguished service by not giving the ship contract to the Irvings"

Methinks that you have a bad habit of evaporating N'esy Pas?

David Amos 

 @maude windsor "local governance should be developed at the political level closest to the people they are representing. schoolboards should collect taxes locally and spend $$$ on local schools (this is important because if parents want academically superior schools they will pay for it....no school taxes should be sent to fredericton!"

Methinks unless you are homeless like I was for 14 years then you live within a municipality of some sort. Everybody knows all taxes are sourced from us be it income tax, property tax, sales tax, gas tax, vehicle registration, speeding tickets fines etc etc etc. Most of the money goes to Ottawa or Fredericton. The municipal politicians then have to beg for scraps while we pay NB Power a horrendous rate just to keep the street lights on.

My heart goes out to all municipal politicians if they are ethical because they live among us where the rubber meets the road if you are lucky enough to dodge the potholes. However everybody knows that certain municipal politicians definitely I do not trust as far as I could throw them and have said so openly for many years particularly while running for public office myself. This domain is just one example of my stating my opinions openly yet in return I only hear crickets or insults from my political opponents N'esy Pas?

  

Paul Bourgoin

It would appear that what could benefit tax paying New Brunswicker's does not seem to fit in the long term vision designing plan, or even address this matter. At the end of the day New Brunswick is a have not province with no surplus cash and many secret sweet heart deals that also need to be addressed

David Amos 

 @Paul Bourgoin "At the end of the day New Brunswick is a have not province with no surplus cash and many secret sweet heart deals that also need to be addressed"

True but after running for public office in the area for the past 15 years all I have ever heard from the electorate is the crickets in their backyards as they followed the Pied Pipers waving red, orange, green, blue and and now purple banners to the polling stations.

Methinks I have every right to say that the folks get the governments they deserve when apathy rules the day N'esy Pas?

@Paul Bourgoin "At the end of the day New Brunswick is a have not province with no surplus cash and many secret sweet heart deals that also need to be addressed"

True but after running for public office in the area for the past 15 years all I have ever heard from the electorate is the crickets in their backyards as they followed the Pied Pipers waving red, orange, green, blue and and now purple banners to the polling stations.

Methinks I have every right to say that the folks get the governments they deserve when apathy rules the day N'esy Pas?
 

 
maude windsor
Asked me what I was gonna do about getting rid of all the people from Quebec who worked for the government or whatever and as soon as I responded her comment went POOF

David Amos

@maude windsor Why not take up your beef with SANB I bet legions of Acadians must be sick and tired of all the greedy Quebecois getting the great bureaucratic jobs in New Brunswick N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@David Amos @maude windsor Hmmm Where did your question to me go?

Paul Bourgoin

@David Amos
The New Brunswick Political ruling authority is more powerful then all the people of this province. Say that all of the NB Voters were to vote for the same Party the now NB governing authority would still control New Brunswick!

David Amos

@Paul Bourgoin Speak for your self Trust that the Irving Clan has no say over me and I am a citizen of this province just like they are

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David Amos

@Paul Bourgoin BTW we should be more concerned about our right free speech and who made maude windsor's comment come and go Correct?

 

David Amos

Methinks Norma McGraw should try thinking outside of the box and give me a call sometime N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@David Amos Hmmm well we just talked and the lady didn't seem to care Surprise Surprise Surprise

 
Charles Dunton

In my area, potential rural governments split my community into two parts. When asked organizers said vote for the new government and then we'll force amalgamation of the rest of your community.

How can that be responsible government?

David Amos

@Charles Dunton It isn't

 
Rosco holt

Finn's report was flawed for the beginning. There's no benefit for rural communities to amalgamate, while big city get to collect more taxes.

They talk representation, the levers of power(decisions) would reside with the biggest existing entity in the amalgamation(municipality).

We've already got too many seat warmers politicians don't need more self serving crooks.

David Amos

@Rosco holt I Wholeheartedly Agree

 
Gary MacKay

The regional service districts are nothing more than another level of government with more tax dollars being spent and little to nothing to show for it. Region 8 is the best example. They could not agree on a trash budget and the province replaced 14 people with one clerk. Interestingly shortly after they were disbanded the two rival towns of Sussex and Sussex Corner mayors finally made headway on an EMO plan regarding flooding. The 12 service districts need to go. There are better ways to have communities and outlying areas work together. New York State has an excellent example that NB could easily improve on and adapt to our province. It would only take the will to actually look at what others have done that works.

David Amos

@Gary MacKay Oh So True

 
Norman Albert Snr

Keep asking questions they aren't going to like the answer too but it is a way of getting rid of all those tax payer dollars they have no real use for. Stupid is as stupid does. Last one out please turn out the lights!!!!

David Amos

@Norman Albert Snr "Stupid is as stupid does."

Methinks Forest Gump's Mother was a very wise lady N'esy Pas?

 
Emery Hyslop-Margison

The Higgs government needs to show leadership on this issue, and I believe they will. I live in the village of New Maryland and it's a perfect example of what's wrong with the provincial municipal structure. The village has a mayor, numerous councillors and, based on my recent count, around 17 full time employees. There are at least three municipal buildings to maintain, including one that is brand new and barely used. Snow removal and garbage collection are both contracted out and the service in both areas is the worst possible. Tax rates on property were hiked again this year as approved by the mayor and council. Most citizens of New Maryland work in Fredericton, shop in Fredericton, recreate in Fredericton and attend education institutions in Fredericton. I suspect this scenario is repeated across the province and it's a ridiculous example of political interests running amuck over public planning and administrative efficiency. Time to pull the plug and amalgamate.

Shawn McShane

@Emery Hyslop-Margison Doesn't sound like it worked with the merger of 18 local service districts with the town of Tracadie-Sheila, they want to break it up...

David Amos

@Emery Hyslop-Margison "The Higgs government needs to show leadership on this issue, and I believe they will."

Methinks I explained why during the last election as I ran against Mr Higgs' buddy Bruce Northrup and his cohorts N'esy Pas?

Laurie Clark

@Emery Hyslop-Margison "The Higgs government needs to show leadership on this issue" You're expecting leadership from a CONServative??? Have fun with that!

Laurie Clark

@Emery Hyslop-Margison "The Higgs government needs to show leadership on this issue" You're expecting leadership from a CONServative??? Have fun with that!

Emery Hyslop-Margison

@Laurie Clark I'm not partisan in politics anymore Laurie. I'm more concerned with a politician doing the right thing (i.e. making decisions I agree with ;-) regardless of the flag he/she is waving. Party politics in this province has been a miserable failure.

Emery Hyslop-Margison

@David Amos I'm trying to be optimistic!

David Amos

@Emery Hyslop-Margison Good luck with that

Fred Brewer

Minister Carr says amalgamation cannot be forced. That is simply not true. Look at the forced amalgamation of Halifax and its outlying communities. The provincial government forced this and since amalgamation, the municipality has experienced dramatic growth and prosperity.

Matt Steele

@Fred Brewer ......Not sure about Nova Scotia ; but Frank McKenna forced Chatham , Newcastle , and the surrounding communities to amalgamate , and there certainly hasn't been any big growth or prosperity in that area....other than the growth of more govt. control and taxes . Just another Frank McKenna boondoggle !

Fred Brewer

@Matt Steele
Say what you will but the fact remains that at one time Saint John and Halifax were twin cities. Both were port cities and both were the capital of their respective provinces and both had the same size population.

Currently the Halifax Regional Municipality has a population that is over 400,000 and construction cranes can be seen everywhere. By comparison, Saint John has a population of 70,000 and rarely do we ever see a single construction crane. I rest my case.

David Amos

@Matt Steele Welcome Back to the Circus and say Hey to McKenna for me sometime will ya?

 
Matt Steele

Jean -Guy Finn has an opinion , just like every other N.B.er has.....but I doubt he is the great expert that he seems to think that he is . Changing the structure of local govt. has been played with before , and the result has been a succession of ONE term prov, govt . No doubt if Jeff Carr and the Higgs govt. starts playing around with it , then their tenure in govt. will be extremely short as well. You would think that after watching Brian Gallant for four years screwing up everything that he touched ; that politicians would realize that the taxpayers are getting fed up with these half baked ideas .

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David Amos

@Matt Steele "You would think that after watching Brian Gallant for four years screwing up everything that he touched ; that politicians would realize that the taxpayers are getting fed up with these half baked ideas "

Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Matt Steele Oh My My

 
pete prosser

Two against one for Riverview. No one in Riverview wants that.
You know what we are talking about.

David Amos

@pete prosser Methinks you are being a little redundant N'esy Pas?

 
pete prosser

Two against one for Riverview.
No one in Riverview wants that, and you know what we are talking about.

A decade after calling for extensive amalgamations, Finn report author sees few changes

Minister of local government says he plans to delve into issue this year

Shane Magee· CBC News· Posted: Feb 24, 2019 9:00 AM AT

Norma McGraw, a former Tracadie councillor, is one of several residents who started a petition calling on the province to hold a plebiscite to break up the regional municipality formed in 2014. (Radio-Canada)

The Tracadie regional municipality was considered a model of how New Brunswick communities could amalgamate without provincial intervention.

But now a petition is circulating calling for a plebiscite to revoke the 2014 merger of 18 local service districts with the town of Tracadie-Sheila.

Former Tracadie councillor Norma McGraw said promises of no tax increases and economic development in the amalgamated local service districts were broken. Mayor Denis Losier also said the promised upsides haven't materialized.

"I think they pulled the wool over citizens' eyes to get us to vote," McGraw, one of several councillors who resigned last year, told Radio-Canada.

Tracadie Mayor Denis Losier, centre, says positive aspects of creating a larger municipality did not materialize. (Radio-Canada)

Jean-Guy Finn, a former senior New Brunswick civil servant who led a commission on reforming local governance, has followed what's happened in Tracadie. He said he's not surprised given changes he recommended in 2008 have not happened.

Finn's controversial report found the province's local governance structure wasn't sustainable. He called on the province to slash New Brunswick's municipalities and local service districts to 53 from 371.

• 'Softer approach' to rural mergers set by Gallant Liberals

• Report urges N.B. to slash number of municipalities to 53

• Amalgamation would solve 'financial woes,' Saint John mayor says

Ten years and two months after his report, the province is far from that target. New Brunswick has 237 local service districts, eight cities, 26 towns, 61 villages, eight rural communities and one regional municipality.

Finn said little has changed under four successive provincial governments.

The changes include tweaks to the municipal funding formula and creating 12 regional service commissions to handle garbage and regional land-use planning.

"This is a reflection of a lack of leadership on behalf of the provincial government," Finn said.

The continuation of a splintered system has led to more sprawl, undesirable development at the fringes of municipalities, and costly provision of services as the province's population ages, he said.

Report shelved

Then-premier Shawn Graham shelved Finn's report immediately after its release, citing a weak economy and the estimated $88-million cost to implement it.

Finn believes the reforms are more relevant than when he recommended them.

Jean-Guy Finn says his decade-old call to revamp local governance in the province requires political will from provincial leaders. ((CBC))

Tracadie isn't the only location where strains with local governance have continued or emerged since Finn's report.

The provincial government dismissed the board of Regional Service Commission 8 this year after the group of Sussex-area mayors and local service district representatives couldn't agree on a waste collection budget.

Disputes over getting areas outside a municipality to pay for community infrastructure have flared in Sussex, Campbellton, Fredericton and the Saint John area.

• Service commission fired after months of deadlock over budget

• Campbellton, minor hockey group reach compromise but fee issue far from resolved

• Fundy LSDs asked to share arena costs for surrounding area

Finn said it shows the need for change.

"When you add all this up, it becomes obvious something will have to be done," Finn said.

Adam Lordon, Miramichi mayor and president of the Cities of New Brunswick Association, told CBC last year that the group wants a "conversation" on the funding issue.

More talk planned

Jeff Carr, the minister of Environment and Local Government, said the province plans to bring people from rural and urban New Brunswick together this year to talk about local governance and municipal powers.

"The people of New Brunswick who live in these areas are going to have to decide once we get all the options on the table and all the facts on the table," Carr said.

Jeff Carr, the province's minister of environment and local government, says the province can't force amalgamations. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

He said the government isn't afraid to make tough choices, but said amalgamation can't be forced.

Finn says leadership required

Finn said it will take leadership by the province to make any changes at this point.

"Unless we proceed comprehensively in reforming local government, I don't think we're going to accomplish much," Finn said. "We cannot just move in an ad hoc fashion like we are now because we seem to be making the situation worse rather than improving it."

Successive governments have adopted an approach that aids locally-run citizen groups considering amalgamation rather than forcing change.

Many of those attempts have failed.

Creating rural communities from local services districts around Sussex, the Nashwaak and York regions have either been rejected by voters or aborted before ballots cast.

Objections raised have included loss of rural identity, tax rates and changes to land use rules.

"People weren't ready for it," David Sweeney, chair of the group studying the idea in the Nashwaak area, said in 2017.

'Amalgamation is a non-starter'

Last year, the former Liberal government rejected Saint John's request to study amalgamation with other communities in the region, citing a lack of support outside the city.

"Amalgamation is a non-starter, full-stop, end of story," Quispamsis Mayor Gary Clark said last year.
Merging the Greater Moncton's three communities has been a thorny topic.

Each have municipal staff, fire department, mayors and a total of 25 councillors. One ward in Moncton, Ward 3, has more than 22,000 residents, almost as many people as Dieppe's total population.

The mayors of Riverview and Dieppe told CBC last year their residents aren't interested in the idea, though a 2017 poll suggested 59 per cent of respondents in the region support amalgamation.

From left, Mayor Ann Seamans of Riverview, Mayor Yvon Lapierre of Dieppe and Moncton Mayor Dawn Arnold. Lapierre and Seamans say their communities aren't interested in amalgamation. (Kate Letterick/CBC News)

Tri-community mayors point to services already delivered in tandem: RCMP, transit, water and sewer.

"I don't think that there's a lot of opportunities beyond what we're already doing," Dieppe Mayor Yvon Lapierre said last year.

About the Author

 

Shane Magee

Reporter

Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC.

With files from Radio-Canada

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Methinks everybody knows why I was not surprised that McKenzie was no better than her buddy Dominic Cardy who quit as leader to become the Chief of Staff for Mr Higgs N'esy Pas?


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David Amos
I was not impressed when I ran against McKenzie 2015. She even witnessed a spit and chew I had with Higgs after a debate with Rob Moore in Hampton. Yet years later the lady still did not deem me worthy of a simple conversation to ask why I ran in Saint John Harbour in 2006.

Methinks everybody knows why I was not surprised when she became the leader after her buddy Dominic Cardy quit and became the Chief of Staff for Higgs. In a nutshell the NDP is history N'esy Pas?

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Gabriel Boucher

This isn't surprising at all.

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David Amos

@Gabriel Boucher Mais Oui

 
Bob Smith

When the best thing a party leader can say about a recent election is that they ran candidates, might be time to change both leader and thinking.

David Amos

@Bob Smith YUP

 
Dave Girdwood

She was acclaimed in the last NDP Leadership "Race". Will anyone step forward, or is this the end of the NDP provincially in New Brunswick?

David Amos

@Dave Girdwood Who cares?

 
Matt Steele

Pretty tough for the NDP to get any traction in N.B. has no one really takes them seriously . The Federal NDPs are going down the same road , and are now in a free fall just months before an election in Oct . .

David Amos

@Matt Steele Cry me a river

We had a bright, hard-working, principled leader and we jettisoned her because, at this point in history, the people of New Brunswick aren't interested in a socialist party. The election results had nothing to do with Jennifer's leadership. The NDP has always been 'my team' but the members of good, effective teams have each other's backs in good times and bad. We sure didn't. Some good, principled people tried to do the right thing but there weren't enough of them. I've cancelled my membership.

Jeff Houlahan

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David Amos

@ Who are you and why are you allowed to post comment anonymously?

 
Frank Campbell

The problem, as i see it, is that the people have forgotten or don't know what the NDP stand for, and The NDP seem to have forgotten also.... what is needed before a leadership convention is a marathon session to iron out who they are, what they believe and are the relevant...... As I see it.

David Amos

@Frank Campbell Me Too

 
JJ Carrier

Two words to solve this - Yvon Godin...

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Matt Steele

@JJ Carrier ......Yvon Godin certainly wouldn't be interested unless that was some big bucks in it for him.....he has already milked the Federal system for every penny he could get . Maybe Dominic LeBlanc , Brian Gallant , or Frank McKenna should take over the NDP leadership .

David Amos

@JJ Carrier Two more? How about Too Funny?

 George Duquette

The way the NDP treat their leaders they don’t deserve to be in government. Mulcair was one of their best and look what they did to him. I remember McDonough proposing some changes to bring the NDP into the mainstream and it refused. McDonough was gone soon afterwards and the party is still in the fringes.

David Amos

@George Duquette Methinks overseeing the NDP is like trying to herd cats Hence Cardy tried ruling them with a iron fist but he was quick to bail on his beloved party when that wicked little game failed N'esy Pas?

 
michael levesque

people remember how the Lord gov bought off Weir with a parasite for life to the tax payer govt job destroying any chance of the NDP being relevant to NB. voters have long memories.

David Amos

@michael levesque Methinks that was a telling thing However you don't know the whole story but the Liberals know that Mr Higgs, Bill Oliver and Bernard Richard certainly do N'esy Pas?

 
Kenneth Hewer

sadly the party has stayed far to centrist and away from Marxist roots

SarahRose Werner

@Kenneth Hewer - I'd say socialist (a more general term) rather than specifically Marxist.

David Amos

@Kenneth Hewer Trust that many folks are not sad about that fact

 
Jake Newman

the NDP (like the greens) are nothing more than a protest opposition party. We've seen the disastrous results the times provincially they've come into power.

David Amos

@Jake Newman YUP

Ronald Parker

@Jake Newman I think that could be said of all parties at one point or another.

 

SarahRose Werner

During the Cardy years when the NB NDP was flirting with being a centrist party, the Greens moved in on the hearts of voters with left-wing tendencies. It's going to take something or someone really special to win those votes back. McKenzie just wasn't it.

David Amos

@SarahRose Werner Methinks "The Powers That Be" consider the NDP irrelevant no matter who wins the by-elections tonight and it looks like even many of their former party members agree N'esy Pas?

Jennifer McKenzie steps down as NDP leader

Resignation comes a day after members vote for leadership review

CBC News· Posted: Feb 25, 2019 12:15 PM AT 

NDP leader Jennifer McKenzie says she is resigning less than two years after taking on the job. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

Jennifer McKenzie has resigned as leader of the New Brunswick NDP, a day after members voted to hold a leadership convention before the end of August.

In a statement Monday, McKenzie said she was resigning "effective immediately."

"The NDP has by a vote this week determined that there will be a leadership convention within the next six months," she said. "I have decided not to participate in such a leadership contest."

McKenzie has been leader since August 2017 and led the party in the provincial election last September, which resulted in no seats for the NDP.

• NDP leader loses in Saint John Harbour as party is shut out across province

• The 506er
  Election aftermath: When there are more questions than answers

In her statement, McKenzie said she was "thankful," for the opportunity to be leader. Despite the disappointing results of the Sept. 24 election, she said, she is glad that the party had a full slate of candidates and that more than 50 per cent of them were women.

McKenzie ran third in Saint John Harbour, the riding represented by the last NDP member of the legislature, Elizabeth Weir, who retired from politics in 2005.

In 2018, the NDP received more than 19,000 votes provincewide, a 60 per cent drop from 2014 and its worst result in a New Brunswick election in 44 years.

McKenzie campaigned on a return to the NDP's socialist roots, promising universal childcare, pay equity, home care, better nursing home ratios and pharmacare.

This was a shift from what former leader Dominic Cardy pushed for. He alienated some people by endorsing the Energy East pipeline and distancing himself from unions. He's now a minister in the Progressive Conservative government.

NDP Leader Jennifer McKenzie, left, with Green Party Leader David Coon, People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin, Liberal Leader Brian Gallant, Progressive Conservative Leader Blaine Higgs debated in Riverview during the 2018 elections. (Marc Grandmaison/THE CANADIAN PRESS)

"The party has returned to its socialist roots and I am confident that the ideas we presented to New Brunswickers in the election will continue to form the basis of a progressive agenda for the party and the province," McKenzie said in her resignation statement.

In 2018, the NDP received five per cent of the popular vote, down from 11 per cent when Cardy was leader.

The NDP appears to have missed the wave that propelled the two other alternative parties (the Green Party and People's Alliance) to greater success. The Greens had 11 per cent and the Alliance had 12 per cent of the popular vote last election, and each won three ridings.

Since Weir resigned in 2005, the NDP has had four leaders, including McKenzie, who ran for the leadership unopposed.

A review vote

On Sunday at Moncton's Darts Club, 95 delegates took part in a vote on whether to hold a leadership review.

The vote was close, with 52 in favour and 43 against, said Danny Légère, who holds a labour seat on the NDP provincial council. He said the results of the 2018 provincial elections definitely contributed to this vote.

"Of course, at the end of the day there are some who feel that leadership may be a factor in that," he said.

NDP members met at Moncton's Dart Club Sunday night, and voted for a leadership review. (Danny Légère/Submitted)

No date has been set for the leadership convention, which has to be held in the next six months.

The vote was by secret ballot, Légère said, but some people did voice their disagreement with the results.

"They didn't understand why we were going to a leadership review," he said. "Some felt that we shouldn't be changing leaders as often as we do. It wasn't good for the party, that we needed consistency. Some felt otherwise."

There are about 600 card-carrying NDP members provincially.

With files from Catherine Harrop

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Higgs's softwood lumber pitch falls on indifferent ears in U.S.

Premier went to meeting of U.S. governors to gather support for easing tariffs

Jordan Gill· CBC News· Posted: Feb 25, 2019 2:29 PM AT

Premier Blaine Higgs returned Monday from a winter conference of U.S. governors. (Jonathan Collicott/CBC)

Softwood lumber was on Premier Blaine Higgs's mind when he travelled to Washington for the National Governors Association meeting over the weekend, but he found others had little interest in talking about the issue.

"Softwood lumber wasn't something that was being discussed a lot," Higgs told reporters when he landed at the  Fredericton airport on Monday after three days in the U.S. capital.

The winter meeting of the governors takes place with hundreds of guests, including leaders from business, non-profits and governments around the world.

• Higgs willing to change forestry plan to end U.S. tariffs

Before HIggs left for the meeting, he said he would be willing to give way on the province's forestry policy to help ease some of the punishing tariffs on softwood lumber coming from New Brunswick.

New Brunswick was the only Atlantic province not exempt from softwood lumber tariffs imposed by the Trump administration.

Support closer to home

While softwood lumber tariffs were not high on the radar of most people at the Washington meeting, the New England governors were more receptive to the province's plight, Higgs said.

He singled out Janet Mills, the Democratic governor of Maine, who assumed office after last year's mid-term elections.

"She recognizes the sensitivities on both sides of the border," said Higgs.

He said the lumber industry in Maine and New Brunswick are heavily integrated and there's a lot of trade between them.

"We as Atlantic Canada, and the eastern U.S., you know kind of always had a market and a business here that needs to be protected."

National focus needed

Higgs said he felt the issue has now been raised but he wished Canadians at the Washington meetings had come up with a more national focus for the issue.

"I think B.C. has the large portion of the business, and so it's getting more of a focus and we're being drug into it," said Higgs.

In Washington, Higgs planned to meet with David Wilkins, a former U.S. ambassador to Canada and now a lobbyist being paid $40,000 a month by the province to lobby the Trump administration on softwood lumber tariffs.

Higgs said he would decide after meeting with Wilkins whether the province would keep him on, but after returning didn't commit to Wilkins one way or the other.

"[Wilkins] was very helpful, he gave me good information," Higgs said.

"He offered obviously to continue his assistance in that regard. I said 'We'll talk more about that.'"

With files from Michel Corriveau and Radio-Canada.

CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices

27 Comments

 
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Norman Albert Snr

Higg's still working for the man/family? When we start turning a profit for this government on resources then he will be working for the people of NB

David Amos

@Norman Albert Snr YUP

  
Ray Bungay

I am all for that idea! Tax payers would save a bundle in salaries, benifits, worker compensation payments by letting the private sector take care of it all. Use the money gained to help pay the debt down.

David Amos

@Ray Bungay Methinks you are commenting on the wrong article N'esy Pas?

  
T Brown

$40,000 a month for the former US ambassador to Canada. We wonder why this province is in the financial mess it's in. In all honesty it's time for a major shake up in government policy. First government need to get out of the buisness of being in business. Sell NB Liquor and Cannabis NB. Privatization of Motor Vehicle and sell NB Power. Government needs to be govement. Just these areas alone would be enough to save billions. Government gets into buisness and tax payers foot the bill of endless debt from such. Fortis has no problem making money but NB Power is billions in debt. Province with less than a million population and it owes 14.4 billion that cost seven hundred million last year just to service. Wow what a mess of a province.

David Amos

@T Brown Methinks Mr Higgs and many other folks should Google "David Wilkins David Amos" sometime N'esy Pas?

maude windsor

NB has fallen under another tree because Higgs cannot undo all the poking at trump that justin trudeau is and was and has doing! fact is NB when economically astute always had resiprocity with the 13 colonies...now USA. NB needs to become more compatible with USA softwood lumber business....leave trudeau to his kindergarten.

Greg Quinn

@maude windsor - Alward's timber supply deal was the catalyst that landed us in this situation where we're cutting more crown wood just to line american coffers through tariffs they justified because that deal made it too hard to argue that NB forestry wasn't subsidized - it was a complete backfire.

Les Cooper

@maude windsor Higgs is trying. can't fix **** over night. We can't even figure language out in NB. No one takes NB serious lol

David Amos

@maude windsor Methinks Yankees don't care about Trudeau and most think New Brunswick is a town in New Jersey N'esy Pas?

 

daryl doucette

Time to start charging Mr. Irving for our wood. Charge what the tariffs are. Money then stays here in New Brunswick instead of going to USA.

David Amos

@daryl doucette Methinks its kinda late for It appears to me that most of the Crown's woods have been mowed down That is why the Irving Clan is chasing after the private woods lots now N'esy Pas?

  
Ronald Parker

I wonder how that guy that NB is paying 40,000 per month doing on this file? Not good I guess.

David Amos

@Ronald Parker FYI I crossed paths with that Yankee lawyer in 2003 when he was the Speaker of the House in South Carolina years before he became an Ambassador up here and tried to have me arrested by the RCMP

daryl doucette

@Ronald Parker it is amazing the money the " connected" people make...$40,000 dollars a month? For WHAT? Going to a few meetings and yackkin a bit, shuffling some papers....no wonder we are so far in debt....the " Powers that Be" just continue to milk us dry.....

  
Rosco holt

Simple, Higgs has to reverse the crtownland giveaway his party gave frorestry.

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David Amos

@Rosco holt YUP

maude windsor

@Rosco holt crown land is a historic way of managing forests in what is now NB...but what management practices would still allow us to access forests, snowmobile trails, camps (remember those beans!)....for private lands do not allow public access.

Sean Onuaillain

@maude windsor
That is not the issue. The issue is that the Irvings and about two other major wood harvestors in NB were given unprecendented access to crown land by the Alward/Higgs argreement (long before Trudeau was elected PM). It is that agreeement that the U.S. says is an unfair subisidy to the lumber companies. And the one that is driving private wood lot owners out of business. They are harvesting wood that the citizens of the province own and giving us tenths of pennies on the dollar.

David Amos

@Rosco holt Methinks its strange that one YUP to you can get through but not two N'esy Pas?

 
Paul Bourgoin

I was just censored for telling the truth about the handling and management of our forests.

David Amos

@Paul Bourgoin Of Course

Harold Benson

@Paul Bourgoin Try using innuendos and insinuations. Sometimes they work better.

 
Matt Steele

There is very little chance that the U.S. will give anything to Canada . The U.S. views the Canadian Prime Minister , Justin Trudeau , as a weak ineffectual leader ; and do not take him seriously . The Canadian oil , auto , and forestry industries are in crisis....yet all Trudeau is focused on is spending taxpayer cash , increasing the National debt , getting his Quebec business buddies out of legal jams ; and more gun control for an already heavily regulated sport . Oct. 2019 cannot come soon enough !!

Rosco holt

@Matt Steele
You think Scheer is better?
He'll get on his knee to kiss up to his idol Trump, like he and his Cons wanted to do with NAFTA.

David Amos

@Rosco holt YUP

Donald Bowser

@Matt Steele the tariffs were a result of Alward's decision to increase subsidies and give away the last of crown forest. So this really has nothing to do with the Feds as the province controls all issues related to natural resources. If we want to discuss ineffectual - look at how feeble this effort was by the Premier. He needed to show concrete action on reversing the bad decisions that led to the tariffs.

David Amos

@Donald Bowser So says a political critic who does not respond to emails from candidates before and after elections N'esy Pas?

People's Alliance pushes for private liquor, cannabis retail system

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People's Alliance pushes for private liquor, cannabis retail system

144 Comments

 
David Amos

Methinks Mr Higgs knows who gave Mr Austin this big idea N'esy Pas?

 
 Les Cooper

The prices would not increase. Because there is more competition and can be run cheaper then the government. That Union guys on crack.

David Amos

@Les Cooper Methinks there is nothing like competition to keep the prices down N'esy Pas?

 
Arnold Stone

how many times has the government changed and some Service NB and some liquor stores change addresses, also some places sell beer privately but NB Liquor or ultimately the NB Government decides who gets the license, remember the fiasco on Hanwell Rd when a business from outside Fredericton was chosen over a store that has been in the area for years, if private owned stores can get a license then any private store should be given a license

David Amos

@Arnold Stone I recall that nonsense up on the Hanwell very well. Methinks it easily affirmed the old adage "Everything political is always about the money"N'esy Pas?

 
Les Cooper

And like Alberta
Costco has a liquor store and prices are awesome.

David Amos

@Les Cooper Imagine that

 
Les Cooper

Alberta has been privatized for years. They follow the same guidelines as the government would and alcohol is cheaper and you don't have to be a government employee to work there.

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David Amos

@Les Cooper Therein lies the rub Methinks every unionized government employee will oppose this for fear that they get the boot next The NDP may rise from the ashes much to the chagrin of its former leader Mr Minister Cardy N'esy Pas?

 
Rosco holt

Before privatizing anything, it should be researched and have a realistic plan of what can be expected and how much money can be made or lost, depending of the scenario.

Only then it could be considered.

David Amos

@Rosco holt Why put good money after bad in an effort to delay the matter further?

 
M Joan Leuty

Sorry I do not want privately run stores for these products. Keep it in government hands to enforce age restrictions and no sales to the already impaired. Plus, convenience stores etc get robbed more often in places where they carry alcohol. Private canabis stores also are reported as being held up. Gov't only sales also prevents organized crime from being involved.

Rob Mason

@M Joan Leuty rubbish!

David Amos

@M Joan Leuty Spoken like a true political pundit

Jeff LeBlanc

@M Joan Leuty facts to back up your liquor robbery theory. I don't recall Salisbury or Memramcook agency stores being robbed recently or any other for that matter.

Rob Mason

@M Joan Leuty this reasoning would also apply to tobacco as well. Should we have all tobacco sold in Government stores as well?

Colin Seeley

@M Joan Leuty

I think I saw wines for sale at the Superstores.

 
Marigold French

https://aglc.ca/sites/aglc.ca/files/aglc_files/LiquorQuickFacts.pdf

David Amos

@Marigold French https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

Harold Benson

Excellent idea.

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David Amos

@Harold Benson Methinks Sam thinks so too N'esy Pas?

 
Mark (Junkman) George

Major problem:
Our wonderful government has signed 10 year, very expensive, leases for those pot stores. Leases so expensive, no one in their right mind, would ever assume............
I would suspect those fancy new liquor stores are the same.
So, if we privatize, we will be on the hook for leases, and paying to retire the unionized workers.
We're talking money too big to sweep under the rug.
I'm *thinking* we best get used to no revenue from pot, or liquor, sales.

daryl doucette

@Mark (Junkman) George Who " owns" the stores George? Probably a " numbered" company?

David Amos

@Mark (Junkman) George Good Point

David Amos

@David Amos No doubt

 
Chris McNee

I read the article from the Fraser institute about the success that happend when Alberta did the deregulation of the selling of Alchol. It would make sense to allow corner stores to sell alchol just as they have been selling tobacco. They already have the market available and it would cut the wages the province is paying into NB liquor. It might work? But it would also cause job losses also. Give the article a read it’s independent and pretty straight forward.

David Amos

@Chris McNee "But it would also cause job losses also"

Who cares?

Methinks we have far too many riding on the government gravy train anyway N'esy Pas?

Chris McNee

@David Amos I would Care. It’s horrible when people lose there jobs for what ever reason.

David Amos

@Chris McNee Methinks you must work for the government N'esy Pas?

 
Joe campbell

One only has to look at Alberta to see the results https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/success-albertas-liquor-store-privatization-lesson-other-provinces

Chris McNee

@Joe campbell awesome point you made with viable study work done. I personally don’t drink much but it looks like it could save the province money.

Joe campbell

@Chris McNee crazy that it went from 220 government locations to 1980 private locations plus ex employee's had a chance to buy in

David Amos

@Joe campbell I concur

 
Rj LeBlanc

I think maybe Austin had a toke before he made that statement?

Gil Murray

@Rj LeBlanc Why so? Would it be so bad to reduce cost at the distribution level and maintain control over the corporate structure? I am not sure that eliminating the existing government owned distribution network and setting royalty revenue at at a less-cost rate would not be a better model. Why is that so evil?

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David Amos

@Rj LeBlanc Tut Tut Tut

Marc Martin

@Gil Murray

And the money we would loose in profits where do you think they would come and take it from ?

 

David Amos

@Rj LeBlanc Now play nice kids

 
Gerry Blais

Keep It Simple Stupid. Leave everything the way it is.

David Amos

@Gerry Blais Methinks you should have voted for the KISS Party N'esy Pas?

Harold Benson

@Gerry Blais Except open the beer store at 8 am.

 
JJ Carrier

CoR Lite and liquor/drugs should not mix...that's how they secured enough votes for their MLAs in the first place...Austin, a former failed minister, is preaching on addiction consumables as a benefit...Next thing you know he will want to make Nackawic part of the States...

Marc Martin

@JJ Carrier

LOL

David Amos

@JJ Carrier Methinks the Irving Clan should affirm that Nackawic is controlled by a company based in India N'esy Pas?

 
Rosco holt

So much for Austin's commen sense.

Marc Martin

@Rosco holt

Exactly.....

David Amos

@Rosco holt Methinks Austin doesn't have much common sense either but Mr Higgs and the SANB know what has concerned me since 2010 is the pastor's severe lack of ethics N'esy Pas?

 
Joseph Vacher

YES YES YES a THOUSAND TIMES YES!!!!

David Amos

@Joseph Vacher It worked out well for Alberta

stephen blunston

this is a great idea for everyone other than the over paid that work in these locations , but maybe prices will get reasonable and people may buy more government is terrible at retail operations they cost to much and lose money

Marc Martin

@stephen blunston

Its a great idea for people who have no idea how to make money....

*but maybe prices will get reasonable*

Yes lets get better prices on beer , let the province take money from somewhere else like health and education......your a genius !!!

*retail operations they cost to much and lose money*

No they don't NB Liquor makes million in revenues across NB.

David Amos

@stephen blunston YUP

Rob Mason

@Marc Martin "No they don't NB Liquor makes million in revenues across NB."
This is a true statement, they would make even more if they didn't have the overhead of stores and all the associated costs.
Government would only relinquish the retail side, they would maintain distribution and the private sector would still collect and remit the sin tax to the government coffers. Kapich (your word in a previous reply) Perhaps Comprend is a better term?

Rosco holt

@Rob Mason
Since when has government done anything correctly?

Politicians would screw any privatization up.

Rob Mason

@Rosco holt that is the beauty they can't screw it up. Close down NBLC and hand it to the private sector, let them manage the market within the current rules and regulations. They collect and remit the sin tax, and no government stores or employees involved. Tax Revenue would remain the same while fixed costs would decrease, this would result in more $$$ for Gov coffers.

Pierre Cyr

So while Austin lamented his wife making 13$ an hour in healthcare on Terry Seguin's radio show he thinks its alright for retail workers. NB would lose billions and hundreds of good paying jobs as Alberta has to private for profit, likely out of province corporations. Not that in province private for profit corporations pay much tax already. Cannabis will be 2-3x what NB liquor is. Handing them both to the private sector would gut gov revenues at a time when we supposedly cant afford it. Neo liberals in various political parties again cant keep their messages straight. They like to panic the population over the debt then engineer even worse future debts and loss of services when in power.

Dan Lee

@Pierre Cyr
I agree ..why would we give private companies our tax dollars.....we paid for theses stores .....

David Amos

@Pierre Cyr "They like to panic the population over the debt then engineer even worse future debts and loss of services when in power."

Methinks everybody knows that is a big part of the wicked game N'esy Pas?

Rob Mason

Governments at all levels need to stop treating us adults as children. Leave more $$$ is the taxpayer pockets, people can best decide what to do with it not a waste prone government. People will spend, save, invest give to charity, whatever they choose, let US decide not the government!!

David Amos

@Rob Mason Good Luck with that

 
Jeff LeBlanc

I'm not defending anything run by the NB Goverent and am a fan of privatized liquor but CNB is a new entity with a lot of start up costs so did anyone really expect them to make a lot of money in less than a year? I certainly didn't.

Rosco holt

@Jeff LeBlanc
I'm against it, the profit the crown corp bring goes to the province. It won't if privatized. Millions would be lost and government will recoop that lost in our pockets.

Marc Martin

@Rosco holt

Exactly..well said.

Joseph Vacher

@Jeff LeBlanc who can't make money selling drus?

Jeff LeBlanc

@Joseph Vacher give it time it's been less than less than 6 month's. Ever hear of start up costs?

Jake Devries

@Joseph Vacher the Libs

David Amos

@Rosco holt I diasagree

Rob Mason

@Rosco holt obviously you have little to no understanding how the Alberta system works. Your above statement is patently false, taxes would still be charged and remitted to the government. Without having to pay for the overhead of stores, employees, etc the province would collect MORE not less.

Rosco holt

@Rob Mason
Simple, it has to do NB politicians. They wouldn't get what best for the province, but give sweet deal to their friends like always.

Politicians don't look after the interest of the province or it's citizen, but their own and that of their party/ backers.

Rosco holt

@Rob Mason
Also, keep in mind that the profits most likely won't stay in the province, but go elsewhere.

And I'm not talking about taxes, but the in-store mark ups. The province won't make up the salary/ jobs lost.

Rob Mason

@Rosco holt so the guy running the corner store will ship his profits offshore? The lost union jobs would be made up in quick order, the private sector model would ensure it. Unions are a "business" like any other, when they lose members, they lose revenue. Does anyone really believe their cry of "think of the children" when supporting the monopoly?

 
Colin Seeley

Beer needs to be sold in private stores as well.

Wines could be sold privately in the pot stores which should be private as well.

Govt stores could sell all 3 but have their numbers reduced.

Why do I have to go to a Govt store to buy beer ?

David Amos

@Colin Seeley Perhaps its for your benefit in order to slow down your consumption

 
Matt Steele

The Cannabis N.B. roll out was just another giant boondoggle by Brian Gallant and the SANB controlled Liberal Party . Gallant was so focused on getting his SANB buddies jobs , that he totally ignored the business model . Those Cannibis outlets should have been incorporated into the current liquor stores which were already built and staffed....but Gallant wanted his buddies to get building contracts and jobs at the new stores . So now the TAXPAYERS are left paying for another Brian Gallant mess ......it just never seems to end . Welcome to N.B. ; Canada's " ONLY " officially bilingual province !!!

Rosco holt

@Matt Steele
The Conservative aren't any different. They give contracts and job to their friends also.

David Amos

@Rosco holt True

 
Jeff LeBlanc

Makes a good headline but just like NB Liquor it will never happen. Not in this bass ackwards province.

David Amos

@Jeff LeBlanc True

 
Fred Brewer

"Government's the only entity I'm aware of that could lose money selling marijuana."

The above statement says it all. If you cannot do the job, then step aside and let private companies do the job for you.

David Amos

@Fred Brewer YUP

 
Paul Bourgoin

Could it be that the people behind this article are the ones interested in buying the Pot and Liquor sales in New Brunswick? or maybe the CoRservative?

David Amos

@Paul Bourgoin This is a CBC article Need I say more?

 
William Reed

Takers want to take more. Of course the rich would love to own these revenue streams.

These things only really have the public's blessing because we can collectively profit/benefit from our own wants. No one without direct skin in the game is interested in seeing the market in these things falling into private hands. Privatizing things means concentrating ownership of them in time. Beer and dope sales would simply come to fill the pockets of foreigners after the locals cashed out. In many ways it's a pyramid scheme once it's out of the public's hands. The last thing the world needs is more concentration of wealth in private hands. As it is now we already have humans with more money than they know how to spend looking for thing to buy to grow their fortunes.

Colin Seeley

@William Reed

Sounds like a shout out to emulate China.

David Amos

@Colin Seeley Methinks you forgot that Trudeau The Younger admires the Chinese way of doing business N'esy Pas?

William Reed

@Colin Seeley

China is an authoritative state that employs capitalism for its own ends. We allow capitalism to indirectly create that sort of environment here. The capitalists are running nothing more than private little dictatorships that are getting to be as large as entire countries, economically speaking. Without really appreciating it our de facto system is authoritarian too. You do what the owners want or you don't get to work for them.

 
Paul Bourgoin

If NB can't manage a liquor store in New Brunswick for profit, with no competition, the same with POT why should we abandon the stores? Maybe the Province should fire the supervision, management, the slackers and clean up that Management ladder. Somewhere someone is making money but not New Brunswick WHY?

Colin Seeley

@Paul Bourgoin

Too much overhead .

stephen blunston

@Paul Bourgoin over priced and incompitant management like all NB crown corps I still think NB power may be the worst run

David Amos

@Paul Bourgoin Methinks you answered your own question N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin

*Austin said he's been in contact with the Blaine Higgs's Progressive Conservative government and it is receptive to the idea.*

How is that not surprising....the CoRservative leader listening to his boss...

Mack Leigh

@Marc Martin

Perhaps your focus should change to ideas which will actually improve the quality of life here in NB rather than your paranoid rantings due to your fear of losing your seat at the feeding trough of government......

Rosco holt

@Mack Leigh
How would privatizing NB Liquor improve the quality of life in the province exactly?

Jake Devries

@Rosco holt another anchor released from our necks

Rosco holt

@Jake Devries
How about we deep six the Cons and the liberals instead?

Stop giving resources and money to private entities that does not have trouble making money.

Rob Mason

@Marc Martin @Marc Martin your clear Liberal bias is showing again. If this was a NDP statement you would have no issue with it. The Peoples Alliance was the bogeyman who was going to roll back all things Francophone, hasn't happened, won't happen.
Your cheer leading while predictable is wearing thin.

Rob Mason

@Marc Martin well my first two replies were con tent dis abled?

Why are you allowed to criticize political parties and if I mention your obvious hatred for all things PA it is moderated?

David Amos

@Rosco holt "How about we deep six the Cons and the liberals instead?"

Methinks that is why I ran for public office six times thus far while most folks just laughed at me because I did not belong to any political party N'esy Pas?

Rob Mason

@David Amos perhaps starting every comment with me thinks is part of the reason no one takes you seriously? If you want your perspective to be heard, articulate it, "me thinks" is distracting and offers nothing of value.

David Amos

@Rob Mason Methinks your problem is that I take what you say against me very seriously N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Rob Mason "your clear Liberal bias is showing again."

Methinks your beloved Mr Higgs knows that I never met a Mason who was not a Conservative N'esy Pas?

Rob Mason

@David Amos against you? You made this statement:"Methinks that is why I ran for public office six times thus far while most folks just laughed at me because I did not belong to any political party N'esy Pas?"

I merely offered a reason as to why you are not taken seriously. In my opinion, most here agree "me thinks" does nothing to help you get your point across.

David Amos

@Rob Mason Methinks not one Mason ever voted for me but I did have a few spit and chews with Masons during the aforesaid elections N'esy Pas?

Rob Mason

@David Amos I believe you are in over your head in most of these discussions, an Anglo Marc!! You don't know me nor my political leanings, I would point out your Ad Hominem remark, but would have to wait for you to look it up before you could reply. Sigh

David Amos

@Rob Mason You picked this fight not I

Rob Mason

@David Amos "not one Mason ever voted for me"
We are perceptive if noting else!

Marc Martin

@Mack Leigh

So selling NB liquor to generate less money for the province and to get ride of good paying jobs = not wanting good quality life for NB ers ?

Marc Martin

@Rob Mason

*The Peoples Alliance was the bogeyman who was going to roll back all things Francophone*

Oh he is trying, its just not working like he planned.

Rob Mason

@Marc Martin show me an example where the PA have tried to roll back any rights. You know a link, article, citation, etc. Not your perception a verifiable fact.

David Amos

@Rob Mason Methinks from my perception of verifiable facts I must assume that many would agree that you and the SANB dude deserve each other N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Rob Mason "show me an example where the PA have tried to roll back any rights. You know a link, article, citation, etc"

Federal Court File No T-1557-15

 
Marc Martin

*They brought forward a privatization model which saw increased employment, increased *

Of course everyone will want those minimum salary jobs...

How can any sane people vote for that guy ??

Fred Brewer

@Marc Martin
Yes, I just love to see my tax dollars being spent on a cashier who makes $30 per hour. *Sarcasm*

Mack Leigh

@Marc Martin

Careful Marc , your extreme insecurity along with your fear of losing the " minority advantage " is showing again...... Really sad that you feel so threatened and intimidated by Austin and the PANB however speaks volumes as to your true priorities which are not for the majority of people in NB........

David Amos

@Mack Leigh Oh So True

 Emery Hyslop-Margison

Absolutely the correct call. The regulations over liquor sales in particular is ridiculous, a major inconvenience to consumers, and costs the government revenue. Pull the plug on NBLCC.

Layton Bennett

@Emery Hyslop-Margison No. NBLC makes money, in what world would it make any fiscal sense to sell off a profitable enterprise? I agree that some regulations need to be changed, but I refuse to say that we should kill off a money making Crown Corporation.

Marc Martin

@Layton Bennett

Exactly...It would be stupid to get ride of the only crown corporation that makes money for the government so that people pay less for beer...

Fred Brewer

@Layton Bennett
You kill off the money-making crown corp when you realize the government can make even more money by privatizing.

Jeff LeBlanc

@Fred Brewer if they sold licenses like they do for tobacco they might be on to something. Less overhead anyway.

Rob Mason

@Marc Martin and @Layton Bennett The government would still make money. They would collect the same amount of taxes just less overhead, salaries, pensions, benefits. The private sector would generate wealth, more jobs, better selection etc. A government entity never makes money, it only consumes it.

Pierre Cyr

@Rob Mason Those would be minimum wage jobs with no benefits or pensions (you're celebrating that?) and the current fair wages would be just more profit for millionaire operators. IOW just more poverty for a poor province. And you wonder why the kids are leaving this province.

Marc Martin

@Rob Mason

*The government would still make money*

But not has much that lost would have to be replaced another place kapich ?

*The private sector would generate wealth*

Ha ha ha that made me laugh, they would generate more wealth how ? by giving minimum salary with no benefit ? Tell me genius how would THEY reinvest into the economy ??

*more jobs*

Yes more 11.25 an hour jobs with zero benefits...

*better selection*

Your a beer drinker I can see that, but beer is not a necessity if you can afford it don't buy it.

*A government entity never makes money, it only consumes it.*

NB Liquor is their piggy bank.

Joseph Vacher

@Layton Bennett except, it doesn't make money lol

Joseph Vacher

@Pierre Cyr :( no 30$ per hour for being a cashier..... makes sense to me

Marc Martin

@Joseph Vacher

No cashier makes 30 an hour.

Marc Martin

@Joseph Vacher

Actually it does make million in revenue a year...

Jake Devries

@Pierre Cyr it's a retail job...like Walmart...same skill sets, virtually none...gov't should NEVER be in any retail business..

Rosco holt

@Jake Devries
Government shouldn't be playing banker either. They always bet on the losing horse.

Rob Mason

@Pierre Cyr not everyone can work for the government, someone has to generate wealth and pay taxes. Do you not understand the NB liquor employees are paid with tax dollars created by business? So the guy owning the Agency store is a millionaire? Even if he is, so what. He invested, worked hard and made money and PAID TAXES.
The kids are leaving the province because no jobs, high taxes and little hope for the future.

David Amos

@Emery Hyslop-Margison How is your optimism doing today?

David Amos

@Rosco holt Google "Harper and Bankers"

Notice Frank McKenna's name?

Rob Mason

@Marc Martin you said...

"Ha ha ha that made me laugh, they would generate more wealth how ? by giving minimum salary with no benefit ? Tell me genius how would THEY reinvest into the economy ?? "

NBLC employees are paid with tax dollars generated by the private sector, ergo they consume wealth.

'"Tell me genius how would THEY reinvest into the economy ?? ""

Marc, the personal insult aside, I will type slowly so hopefully you can comprehend...

They will reinvest by making improvements to their properties, paying employees, paying taxes,shall I go on?

Fred Brewer

@Marc Martin
"But not has much that lost would have to be replaced another place kapich ? "

No I don't kapiche. I really tried but I cannot make any sense of your quote.

Rob Mason

@Fred Brewer don't fret, we all struggle making sense of some of Marc's statements.

Layton Bennett

@Fred Brewer
But they won't. Explain to me how they will make more on a business they no longer own.

Marc Martin

@Rob Mason

Paying employees ? Minimum salary ?

*They will reinvest by making improvements to their properties*

And that will generate millions to the government of NB ??

*paying taxes*

They are already paying taxes...Having a few more employees, paying them minimum salary will make THEM save taxes..Again how will this generate millions for the government of NB ???

You don't seem ton comprehend how this works.
- The province is making a profit
- They hire people, pay them a good wage with good benefits
- These people re-invest into the economy, they buy cars, houses, and they pay taxes.

Business having NB liquor
- Pay minimum salary with almost no benefits
- Does not re-invest but into themselves

In the end where will the province get the money they will be losing ?? Yeah I think you are slow...

Marc Martin

@Fred Brewer

The province makes more money now then if NB liquor would go private anyone who does not understand this is either an alcoholic of the owner of a small business who wants to sell beer.

Rob Mason

@Marc Martin
You don't seem ton comprehend how this works.
- The province is making a profit
- They hire people, pay them a good wage with good benefits
- These people re-invest into the economy, they buy cars, houses, and they pay taxes.

The last point specifically is when you don't understand. The money they pay taxes on was generated by the private sector, they are paying tax on a tax.
"how will this generate millions for the government of NB ??? "

The government will still receive the same tax revenue, just not have the overhead. Why is this hard to understand?

Rosco holt

@Rob Mason
NBLiquor made Net earning of $168.4 million. That's profit. Not money made by taxes.
Yes, the government will recieve taxes, but I doubt it will be has high has 168 million per/ year on average.

That's without forgetting the social responsibilities that the crown corporation has.

Government has the tendency of cutting corporate taxes (Higgs promised cutting business taxes) with the continual promise that it will create jobs and get businesses to re-invest. Which none of it materialized.

Rob Mason

@Rosco holt you know not of what you speak. OK I'll humour you, what percentage of the $168.4 million was mark up to sell in the store and what percentage was tax on the product. It does not matter which source it comes from, the government realizes the revenue. If the private sector was involved they would receive the same amount, while realizing the savings from decreased overhead. (store up keep, heat, lights, wages, pensions, etc)

People's Alliance pushes for private liquor, cannabis retail system

Kris Austin says province should do away with government-owned stores

Jordan Gill· CBC News· Posted: Feb 25, 2019 12:39 PM AT

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin believes the province would be better served by a privatized system of selling alcohol and cannabis. (CBC)

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin says the province should abandon the government-owned system of selling liquor and cannabis for one that gets privately owned stores to do the selling.

Austin's comments on Information Morning Fredericton come after the CEO of NB Liquor and Cannabis NB Brian Harriman announced last week that he was stepping down.

• Brian Harriman resigns as boss of NB Liquor and Cannabis NB

• Cannabis sales in New Brunswick fall far short of expectations — and other provinces

• Major round of layoffs at Cannabis NB after 12 weeks in business

Austin said the change at the top of the Crown corporation should bring a change in philosophy that would recognize full privatization as being in the province's best interest.

"If you look at other jurisdictions across North America, it's done exceptionally well, including even in our own country in Alberta," said Austin

"They brought forward a privatization model which saw increased employment, increased revenue, better variety and distribution. Just all the way around seemed to be a better system."

The Alberta system has seen increased liquor store locations and product selection, but even that system has been criticized because it retains government control over distribution. Wages have also gone down for retail workers in Alberta's private outlets.

More innovation, revenue

Austin said privatization would eliminate the government monopoly and allow for more innovation.

He also said the province would see more revenue in privatization because it would still receive tax revenue on sales of alcohol and cannabis but wouldn't incur the overhead of operating retail stores.

Austin says the province would make more money if it got out of the business of selling liquor and pot. (Jordan Gill/CBC)

He said employment would increase as new businesses moved into the market.

Government would still regulate the industry through licensing and enforcement of liquor and cannabis laws, Austin said.

"Basically the same thing they're doing now, but less cost associated with that," he said.

Union response

CUPE 963, the union that represents NB Liquor employees, does not support privatization.

"It looks like the [People's Alliance] is doing the Conservatives' dirty work, by proposing to kill the proverbial 'golden goose' so that a few big corporate players — such as Sobeys and Irving (Circle K) can make more profit," Jamie Agnew, President of CUPE 963, said in a news release.

CUPE 963 president Jamie Agnew says privatizing the sale of liquor and cannabis would be akin to killing the "golden goose." (Ed Hunter / CBC)

Privatization would lead to higher prices and lower revenue and would remove public health safeguards, the union said, citing a report from the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives and the Parkland Institute.

Daniel Légère, the president of CUPE NB, said government control of alcohol and cannabis is the "safest and best way ahead for consumers."

"I advise the PANB to remove their pro-corporate blinders. Privatization means private profit before people, and fewer good jobs."

Better things to do

New Brunswick now has a government monopoly on the sale and distribution of recreational cannabis, with products only being sold in Cannabis NB stores and on the Crown corporation's website.

NB Liquor has a similar mandate, but alcohol sales are permitted in some private stores in areas where there is no corporate store, and some wines and cider are available in grocery stores. NB Liquor decides where these "agency stores" are located and who runs them.

Citing health care and education, Austin said there are more important things than selling liquor and cannabis for the government to deal with. And with cannabis, the province isn't doing a good job anyway, he said.

'Government's the only entity I'm aware of that could lose money selling marijuana,' Austin says. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

"There you see sales have been down.

"Government's the only entity I'm aware of that could lose money selling marijuana. It's just not a good model for government, and the private sector would do it so much better."

Cannabis appears to be falling short of sales projections in its first six months.

The corporation was projected to hit sales of $45 million by March 30. As of Dec. 23, 2018, only $8.6 million in sales had been reported.

 Austin said that his party is researching how the province could get out of contracts with cannabis producers and people who rent out the retail location.

Austin said one solution might be to get entrepreneurs to take over the contracts. There could also be "options" for employees to either take over the business or find jobs in the private sector.

Claims support from PCs

 

Austin says the Blaine Higgs government has been receptive of his calls to privatize alcohol and cannabis sales. (CBC)

Austin said he's been in contact with the Blaine Higgs's Progressive Conservative government and it is receptive to the idea.

"They're certainly open to the idea. I believe right now they're looking into it."

Premier Blaine Higgs told reporters he wants to analyze both NB Liquor and Cannabis NB but didn't confirm he had spoken with Austin about privatization and said he isn't sure that's the best option.

Higgs said he supported looking at the possibility of privatization but any evaluation would take months.

With files from Information Morning Fredericton

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-committee-snc-lavalin-1.5011161

Jody Wilson-Raybould says she's bound by 'solicitor-client privilege,'
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Kim Luciano
No courage, no honor, no integrity. This is the mantle ALL Canadians
wear if we elect these people again.



Curtis Garrick
Wow...the liberals have confirmed JWR was involved in government talks
about the fate of SNC-Lavalin. Confirming what I have been saying all
along, she used solicitor-client privilege in order to avoid saying
anything that may incriminate her client. Canadians deserve a full
inquiry on this. We need to know exactly who was involved, and exactly
what happened, and if necessary criminal charges should be applied.



Arthur Gill
From other reports this is just the tip of the iceberg folks.
Much more to come.



Joc McTavish
What's a Trudeau without preferred treatment for Quebec.



Richard Riel
Wow Lavalin executives are all over this, it is their salaries, perks,
and bonuses, being argued with politicians for free taxpayers revenues
that many don't have whatsoever.



David Amos
Obviously I am not anonymous Here is a scoop for you to research and
decide whether it be true or false

Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody
Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" N'esy Pas?

Trust that Mr Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition know
that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice
Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal
Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed
when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker.

Everybody knows I about to put that matter before the Supreme Court of
Canada and file several more lawsuits against the RCMP and the CRA etc
and also run for a seat in Parliament again.

Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google
"David Amos Federal Court file No." in order to sort out the truth
from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau
should have paid particular attention to statement 83 of my lawsuit
long before he was elected in October of 2015 N'esy Pas?


David Amos
@David Amos Need I say it irritated me bigtime when Jody appointed her
Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued
his minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?


Richard Donald
On the loss of jobs in Quebec - Bridges still will get built . The
government will fund projects. The workers would get paid from Stantec
(Head office Edmonton) or some other company that does not do so much
bribery as part of their operation



Joc McTavish
Just
Not
Ready.


Jenna Collins
If Wilson-Raybould refused to succumb to pressure from the PMO in this
instance I will have the utmost respect for her.




York--Simcoe (Ontario)
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:44:51 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Jagmeet Singh says that maybe Jay Shin
should go back to law school??? Too Too Funny Indeed EH Karen Wang and
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:44:43 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Jagmeet Singh says that maybe Jay Shin should go back to
law school??? Too Too Funny Indeed EH Karen Wang and Laura-Lynn Tyler
Thompson?
To: premier <premier@gnb.ca>, attorneygeneral
<attorneygeneral@ontario.ca>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>,
"Sophia.Harris"<Sophia.Harris@cbc.ca>, "maxime.bernier"
<maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>, "andrew.scheer"
<andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, "elizabeth.may"
<elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca>, "Kathleen.Harris"
<Kathleen.Harris@cbc.ca>, "scott.bardsley"<scott.bardsley@canada.ca>,
"scott.brison"<scott.brison@parl.gc.ca>, "Katie.Telford"
<Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Katy.Bourne"
<Katy.Bourne@sussex-pcc.gov.uk>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:44:16 -0400
Subject: Jagmeet Singh says that maybe Jay Shin should go back to law
school??? Too Too Funny Indeed EH Karen Wang and Laura-Lynn Tyler
Thompson?
To: info@jayshin.ca, jay@lonsdalelaw.ca, karenwang@liberal.ca,
lauralynnlive@gmail.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>,
jmaclellan@burnabynow.com, kgawley@burnabynow.com

Jagmeet Singh on Tory opponent: 'Maybe he should go back to law school'
Conservative candidate Jay Shin said Singh was 'keeping criminals out
of jail' during his days as a criminal defence lawyer
Kelvin Gawley Burnaby Now January 13, 2019 10:27 AM

Julie MacLellan
Assistant editor, and newsroom tip line
jmaclellan@burnabynow.com
Phone: 604 444 3020
Kelvin Gawley
kgawley@burnabynow.com
Phone: 604 444 3024

Jay Shin
Direct: 604-980-5089
Email: jay@lonsdalelaw.ca
By phone: 604-628-0508
By e-mail: info@jayshin.ca

Karen Wang
604.531.1178
karenwang@liberal.ca

Now if Mr Shin scrolls down he will know some of what the fancy NDP
lawyer has known for quite sometime

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 16:39:35 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 and the
upcoming hearing on May 24th I called a lot of your people before High
Noon today Correct Ralph Goodale and Deputy Minister Malcolm Brown?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>


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Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Minister Ralph Goodale and Pierre
Paul-Hus Trust that I look forward to arguing the fact that fhe Crown
filed my Sept 4th email to you and your buddies
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 05:54:40 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: ATTN Blair Armitage You acted as the Usher
of the Black Rod twice while Kevin Vickers was the Sergeant-at-Arms
Hence you and the RCMP must know why I sued the Queen Correct?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

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From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Mr. Amos,
We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
of Nova Scotia.  Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS.  Please note that we will
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Eidt, David (OAG/CPG)"<David.Eidt@gnb.ca>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 00:33:21 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Yo Mr Lutz howcome your buddy the clerk
would not file this motion and properly witnessed affidavit and why
did she take all four copies?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of the office until Monday, March 13, 2017. I will have
little to no access to email. Please dial 453-2222 for assistance.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Marc Richard <MRichard@lawsociety-barreau.nb.ca>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:16:46 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE: The New Brunswick Real Estate
Association and their deliberate ignorance for the bankster's benefit
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of the office until  August 15, 2016. Je serai absent du
bureau jusqu'au 15 août 2016.





> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> To: coi@gnb.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Good Day Sir
>
> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>
> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>
> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
> suggested that you study closely.
>
> This is the docket in Federal Court
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>
> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>
> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>
> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>
> April 3rd, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>
>
> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>
>
> The only hearing thus far
>
> May 24th, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>
>
> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>
> Date: 20151223
>
> Docket: T-1557-15
>
> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>
> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>
> BETWEEN:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>
> Plaintiff
>
> and
>
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
> Defendant
>
> ORDER
>
> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
> December 14, 2015)
>
> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
> in its entirety.
>
> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
> he stated:
>
> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
> You are your brother’s keeper.
>
> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
> Police.
>
> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>
>
> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
> is no order as to costs.
>
> “B. Richard Bell”
> Judge
>
>
> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>
>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>
> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
> dudes are way past too late
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merci ,
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>
>
> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> December 8, 2014
> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>
> Friday, October 3, 2014
> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>
> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>
> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> campaign of 2006.
>
> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>
> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>
> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>
> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>
> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>
> Subject:
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> January 30, 2007
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Mr. David Amos
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>
> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> Minister of Health
>
> CM/cb
>
>
> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>
> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>
> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>
> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>
>  Sincerely,
>
> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> Traffic Services NCO
> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>
>
>
> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
> tel.: 506-457-7890
> fax: 506-444-5224
> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>


On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:

> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz
> ilian.html
>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>
>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>
>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>> cards?
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly200
>> 6
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.
>>
>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html


Sunday, 19 November 2017
Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
The Supreme Court

https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do


Federal Court of Appeal Decisions

Amos v. Canada
Court (s) Database

Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
Date

2017-10-30
Neutral citation

2017 FCA 213
File numbers

A-48-16
Date: 20171030

Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.


BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:

THE COURT



Date: 20171030

Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.


BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT

I.                    Introduction

[1]               On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
(Claim at para. 96).

[2]               On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
Prothontary’s Order).


[3]               On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).


[4]               Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
cross-appeal.


II.                 Preliminary Matter

[5]               Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
several judges but did not name those judges.

[6]               Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
c. F-7:


5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
Appeal.
[…]

5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
[…]
5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.

5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
juges de la Cour fédérale.


[7]               However, these subsections only provide that the
judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
section.
[8]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide that:
3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.

3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
matière civile et pénale.
4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.

4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
compétence en matière civile et pénale.


[9]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
(section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
appeal book.


[10]           Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
conflict in any matter related to him.


[11]           On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.


[12]           During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
such judge had a conflict.


[13]           The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
was a member of such firm.


[14]           During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
Court of Canada over 10 years ago.


[15]           The documents that he submitted in relation to the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
“John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
[16]           Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
apprehension of bias:
60        In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
reasonable apprehension of bias:
… the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
unconsciously, would not decide fairly."

[17]           The issue to be determined is whether an informed
person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
(4th) 193).

[18]           The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
27        Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.


28        The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."


29        It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.


30        That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
            To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
31        There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
his former firm for a considerable period of time.


32        In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
events from over a decade ago.
(emphasis added)

[19]           Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
Webb hearing this appeal.

[20]           Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
(2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.

[21]           In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.

[22]           Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.

[23]           As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
to recuse himself.

[24]           Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.

[25]           Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.


III.               Issue

[26]           The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?

IV.              Analysis

A.                 Standard of Review

[27]           Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
[Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
(Hospira at paras. 82-83).

[28]           In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
interfere.


B.                 Did the Judge err in interfering with the
Prothonotary’s Order?

[29]           The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:

17.       Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
(…)


21.       The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
[footnotes omitted].


[30]           The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
para. 27).


[31]           The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:


[13]      As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:

a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;

b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and

c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
(Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).

[32]           The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
“political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).

[33]           This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:

…When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
“The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
of process…

To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
(at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).

[34]           Applying the Housen standard of review to the
Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.

[35]           The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
supporting a cause of action.

[36]           In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).

V.                 Conclusion
[37]           For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
without leave to amend.
"Wyman W. Webb"
J.A.
"David G. Near"
J.A.
"Mary J.L. Gleason"
J.A.



FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD

A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
DOCKET:

A-48-16



STYLE OF CAUSE:

DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN



PLACE OF HEARING:

Fredericton,
New Brunswick

DATE OF HEARING:

May 24, 2017

REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.

DATED:

October 30, 2017

APPEARANCES:
David Raymond Amos


For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
(on his own behalf)

Jan Jensen


For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL

SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
Nathalie G. Drouin
Deputy Attorney General of Canada

For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL

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Richard Smith

The real byelection will be the GOODBYElection in October when we say good riddance to Trudeau.

Richard Sharp

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The Cons are in BIG TROUBALE.

Daniel McKay

@Richard Sharp "The PPC got 11% of the vote in Burnaby South, nearly half of what the Cons got."

This brings a bit of joy to my otherwise cynical federal political perspective. It will be an excellent day, the day the Cons are no longer believed by the preponderance of right-leaning voters. I am most eager to see the outcome of the upcoming federal election.

Jim Roth

@Richard Sharp Cons sure are good at making excuses though

Bob Baker

@Richard Smith Surely you mean the GOODYE Ford not looking good for the Cons even with the Faux SNC Scandal thats turning out to be "much ado about nothing" we'll see after QWed I guess.

David Amos

@Richard Smith Methinks the result of all three by-elections were very predictable even though CBC tried to spin it otherwise However if I were you I would not bet the farm on Trudeau The Younger losing the mandate of the 43rd Parliament Anyone can see that your hero Maxime is splitting the vote on the right and the liberals love it N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Bob Baker Methinks desperate liberals do post desperate things just before Jody tells her truth N'esy Pas?

David Amos 

@Richard Sharp "You’re not paying attention. The Libs PICKED up a seat in Outremont,"

Methinks it should be fairly obvious as to why the lawyer Melanie Joly who is our current Minister of Tourism, Official Languages and La Francophonie is smiling N'esy Pas?

https://rbendayan.liberal.ca/en/

"Rachel built a successful legal practice at Norton Rose Fulbright in the field of litigation and international arbitration while also teaching at the Faculty of Law of the Université de Montréal. She then served as Chief of Staff to the federal Minister of Small Business and Tourism, where she played a key role in developing the Liberal government’s women’s entrepreneurship strategy"










 
Bianca Berry

It's time Canadians support the NDP and stop wasting their vote on liberals. Only the NDP support Canadian workers.

Chris Bacon

@Bianca Berry Oh god...if we ever had a federal NDP a single term would screw us for a generation.

Amelia Blanchard

@Bianca Berry

Just read some of your previous pro conservative comments. You are not an NDP supporter. You are trying to split the vote.

But the NDP is not the only party with vote splitting potential this time.

Awistoyus Nahasthay

@Bianca Berry

Sure, if you want a Con government...

Gregory Lastman

@Awistoyus Nahasthay
A con government would be worst thing for Canada....

Bianca Berry

@Gregory Lastman
Re-electing a phony would be the worst thing.

David Amos

@Bianca Berry Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Amelia Blanchard "NDP is not the only party with vote splitting potential this time."

True

 
Daryll Mcbain

It will be interesting to see if the Liberal scandals effect the byelections.

Peter Steffler

@Daryll Mcbain The previous Con government had countless scandals and was elected.

Amelia Blanchard

@Peter Steffler

Different bases. Liberals will punish their political leaders regardless of partisanship, when they mess up, but Conservative bases do not care what their party does or how they do it, as long as they win.

Daryll Mcbain

@Peter Steffler the previous government wasn’t elected, Trudeau was.

Jim Clark

@Amelia Blanchard ya.thats why their cabinet almost unanimously followed trudeaus orders of not allowing jwr to speak.

Amelia Blanchard

@Jim Clark

I was talking about the Canadian people, not a cabinet.

The cabinet is showing little difference from that of the former government. But then, they remained silent even after it became fact that their party was guilty of everything from lying about programs to cheating during elections. Until we know for sure Trudeau is guilty of the crimes alleged against him, we will not have an apt comparison between cabinets.

Just bases.

Peter Steffler

@Daryll Mcbain So you are not denying the countless scandals.

Daryll Mcbain

@Peter Steffler Nope, Trudeau will be gone as well.

Carson Brook

@Daryll Mcbain
no, the scandals of the media, Scheer party and NDP coalition for taking one small secret fabricated allegation seemingly constructed by JWR surrogate as a Bob Fife gift leak and exploded into a swarm smear 'scandal' is whats really interesting.... nothing to do with election interference or just plain vile slander? yes - there's what needs way more 'watching'

Richard Sharp

@Daryll Mcbain

No scandal, no impact.

Jack Pott

@Richard Sharp I can't wait for the NDP/LIB/GRN vote splitting !!!

David Amos

@Richard Sharp "No scandal, no impact."

Methinks you forgot Federal Court File No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas/

 
Jim Clark

Thanks for playing jagmeet.Take trudeau with you on the way out please.

Ben Brown

@Jim Clark
Still as desperate sounding as last time posted

Jim Clark

@Ben Brown desperate?jagmeet is irrelevant but still took trudeau out in Burnaby.Perfect.

Richard Sharp

@Ben Brown

The Cons under Scheer and other Harper retreads like Poilievre and Rempel have NO CHANCE on October.

David Amos

@Richard Sharp Methinks the majority of Canada's electorate does not agree with your opinions N'esy Pas?

little mango

@David Amos the majority don't think what? The conservatives have never got past 40% of the vote. They barely win each time because the left is split across two parties who capture about 55-60 of the electorate

David Amos

@little mango and your point is?

David Amos

@little mango Why is it that I do not believe that is your real name?

 
Paul St John

Why does CBC keep showing Singh who does not support Canadian oil and chases away international investment, don’t vote for this kind

george bath

@Paul St John
why would any candidate chase away business?
it's the economy

I don't support xeno phobic parties types

Glechren Davies

@george bath

We're all proud of you George. Thanks for sharing.

Guy Souriandt

@Paul St John Conservatives want to censor all opposition.

Glechren Davies

@Guy Souriandt

As opposed to Liberals who just don't answer the questions.

Of course one of our statements is false.

Guy Souriandt

@Paul St John Conservatives are globalists; they want foreigners to own the Canadian oil industry.

Guy Souriandt

@Glechren Davies Conservatives are complaining that CBC just mentions Singh. Proves they don;t like opposition leaders being covered and will try to stop it. Scary.

Dan Reid

@Paul St John he is Justins twin

David Amos

@Guy Souriandt "Conservatives are globalists; they want foreigners to own the Canadian oil industry."

Methinks everybody knows they already do N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Guy Souriandt "Conservatives are complaining that CBC just mentions Singh. Proves they don;t like opposition leaders being covered and will try to stop it. Scary."

Welcome to the Circus

Jonathan Seagull

Regardless if he wins or not Jagmeet Singh needs to step aside so the NDP has a ghost of a chance to grow before the next election.

Amelia Blanchard

@Jonathan Seagull

He will not step aside if he wins. As if.

Mikael Maus

@Jonathan Seagull

I'm not so sure. Assuming he wins his seat there will be plenty of room for growth.
On the other hand the NDP will not likely go beyond 20-25% or so regardless of who the leader is.

James McDonell

@Mikael Maus Personally I don't know why he was any supporters. I just don't find him a likable person.

David Amos

@Jonathan Seagull Methinks you should read before you comment N'esy Pas?

 
John Langton

Interesting to see People's organized enough already to have a candidate in each of these ridings.

Big trouble ahead for Scheer and his Conservatives and I doubt that the NDP will win in any riding tonight.

Considering all, unseating Trudeau is going to be a real challenge.

It's a sad state to even ponder Trudeau for another term.

Amelia Blanchard

@John Langton

Big trouble ahead for all traditional parties if the people's are well organized enough come this next election. With the rise in populism People's could easily sweep the day. Scheer holds may similar values but tries to hide them to keep centre voters, progressive conservatives, conservatives and the far right all at once. Because people's is so outspoken about their positions and not afraid of losing support over them, they will likely take the far right, in which case Scheer loses the far right unless he becomes more extreme in his own rhetoric, but then he loses the moderates.

But it is also bad news for the Liberals, who could easily suffer an extraordinary defeat at the hands of the Peoples in one or two elections, and the other parties who will likely not be able to motivate a response big enough to be anything but completely overshadowed by them.

I am just going off current global trends. I can't predict the future and have no idea what will happen.

Jimmy Jones

@Amelia Blanchard You really think there are enough far right yahoos in this country that the People's Party will become a factor on the national stage? Bernier will be lucky to retain his own seat come October.

Amelia Blanchard

@Jimmy Jones

Far right sentiments are growing all over the world and has seen the rise in populists all over the world respectively. Canada has no magical defence to keep out the rhetoric and movements of populist ideology and we are seeing more and more people ending up in that camp.

People are afraid (of migrants and ideas), misinformation is abound in a propaganda war, the economy has been fairly stagnant for a long time in spite of some improvement at the cost of a lot of debt, and we are currently experiencing a shift in the global order away from American/Western centred hegemony and towards something, we don't know what yet, to the East. New empires are rising, old ones are falling, and chaos is everywhere.

We have a pretty good combination of factors creating fertile ground for extremism on both the right and the left, and the far right IS gaining traction in Canada and Bernier knows this, and is trying to tap into that. If he is successful, and all he really has to do is ride the wave others created for him, yes, of course he can sweep house. If not this election, then the next one.

Ironically, far right extremism is very much the making of Conservatives like Harper, Scheer and Kenney, so it will be interesting to see if they end up losing their job to the monster that they helped created.

Besides, it only takes about 30% of the population to win an election and change the country forever.

vince talbot

@Amelia Blanchard

Good.....A Scheer- Bernier coalition would be glorious.

Robert Brannen

@Amelia Blanchard

If the Peoples Party should take the far Right away from the Conservative Party of Canada, it would be the boost the CPC desperately needs to become truly relevant. Such a happening would make room for former Progressive Conservative supporters who opted to vote for other parties after the formation of the CPC to return to the Conservative fold.

Robert Brannen

@vince talbot

Even the possibility of that type of outcome would put off the former PC supporters that the CPC requires so desperately.

Carson Brook

@Robert Brannen

I like your optimisn for the progressive conservatives... but you overlook that it was the quisling move by Peter McKay betraying David Orchard and the PCs which created Harper.... and Peter's getting free rehabilitation by the same media which is now blowing up the slimey attacks against the Trudeau gov't. So where does the 'clean' come from when Canada has no media giving us facts and journalism as the US has in PBS, New York Times, Washington Post... and BBC too

Jimmy Jones

@Amelia Blanchard Four polls have reported thus far, the People's Party have a whopping 6 votes total.

Amelia Blanchard

@Jimmy Jones

As I have said, it may take them more than one election to be organized enough to take on the traditional parties, but if they can get there, they can ride the wave of populism right into power.

Daniel McKay

@John Langton I noticed no Green candidate against Singh. I have to believe that was a conscious choice, I guess the two left-leaning parties still have some common ground.
I am also very keen to see just how many right-leaning Canadians abandon the Cons, now that we have an alternative. Scha-weet!

Daniel McKay

@Amelia Blanchard "Because people's is so outspoken about their positions and not afraid of losing support over them..."

Finally getting some flavour back on the ballot, am weary of the have only three versions of the bland middle to choose. Now all we need is a hard-left socialist party to stand up, the the Con-Lib-Dip party can merge into the single party they've become.

Chris Vickers

@Daniel McKay It's called leader's courtesy. The Liberals and Conservatives typically don't run a candidate against a party leader seeking to enter the house in a by-election. The NDP have never extended leader's courtesy to the Liberals or Conservatives so they didn't extend it to the NDP. The Greens quite publicly announced they were extending leader's courtesy in this riding. They will contest it in the full election however.

David Amos

@John Langton "Interesting to see People's organized enough already to have a candidate in each of these ridings"

Methinks Maxime and his minions know why I made certain that they knew what Jody knows long before they lost in all three ridings N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Carson Brook "Peter McKay betraying David Orchard and the PCs"

Methinks you should suggest to your fans that they Google my name and that of Peter MacKay's N'esy Pas?

 
Gary Johnston

It’s time to take our country back and get a leader who will fight for Canada and all Canadians. Time for change PEOPLES PARTY OF CANADA and Maxime Bernier. It sure would be nice to have a leader we could be proud for once.

Glechren Davies

@Gary Johnston

The whaat party of Canada? Never heard of it.

Ray Boychuk

@Gary Johnston

That's what all the white scared cons are saying Gerry...

Andrew Stephenson

@Gary Johnston
PPC at 1.7 and 2.5% in the two ridings that are reporting.

Devastating for Max.

Cameron Abbott

@Gary Johnston Funny, we haven't had one yet since the days of Pearson. Who do you have in mind.

Ambrose Bissonet

@Gary Johnston

they could always learn a thing or two from Coalition Avenir Québec
a new party that the mopped the floor with the old hack parties

Tom Tomson

@Gary Johnston The PP of Canada? Is that the yellow vest party?

Jim Witherspoon

@Ambrose Bissonet but only in La Belle Province

David Amos

@Gary Johnston Dream on

 
Awistoyus Nahasthay

So far the Cons are trailing badly in Burnaby South, and getting completely annihilated in Outremont, where even the Greens have twice as many votes.
Yikes, that's got to be embarrassing for scheer...

Awistoyus Nahasthay

@Awistoyus Nahasthay

...and the Libs are a strong second place in loooooonnnnnnnggggg time Con stronghold of York-Simcoe.
All that bleating scheer's been doing and they can't do better than that...in a by election????
Yikes, embarrassing.

Jim Court

@Awistoyus Nahasthay

If Scheer keeps having pictures taken with Ford, and Ford keeps going from failure to pork barrel appointments, Ontario east will be all Liberal, NDP, and some People's Party in Quebec.

David Amos

@Awistoyus Nahasthay "Yikes, that's got to be embarrassing for scheer"

Methinks you should not be surprised to learn that I made certain the lawyer Scot Davidson knew everything Van Loan and Ralph Goodale knew long before his won the seat for York--Simcoe this evening N'esy Pas?

 
Jeffrey Wayne

It will be interesting to see if the Conservatives are still sliding since they painted themselves into the extreme right corner of Canadian politics.

Jesus Sanchez Fernandes

@Jeffrey Wayne lol ha ha. You might look at the polls across the boards as the liberals are hemorrhaging support

Scotty Davidson

@Jeffrey Wayne Trudeau signing right wing free trade deals, extending missions in Iraq and Ukraine, giving billions to private corporations, supporting regime change, seems he followed them to the far right.

Jeffrey Wayne

@Scotty Davidson

Is that the far right, alt right?

Al Anderson

@Jeffrey Wayne Joe Biden would be to the right of extreme Canadian right So would Obama ...most Canadians just varying degrees of soft-left

Jeffrey Wayne

@Al Anderson

Canadian politics are not really comparable to the US since we have a blended politic.

However, Cons have steamed out ground that is not centrist.

Scotty Davidson

@Al Anderson Joe Biden helped create the Patriot act so yes he is far right.

Jeffrey Wayne

@Scotty Davidson

Joe Biden’s right does not include the Alt-right.

Jesus Sanchez Fernandes

@Al Anderson lol don't bother. These guys think with emotion. They don't understand Conservative party has a far larger gov't then southern counter part. Conservatives support Universal health care southern counterpart does not. the list goes on.

Jesus Sanchez Fernandes

@Jeffrey Wayne neither does the PC government.

Al Anderson

@Jeffrey Wayne until they elected and then they seem to drift to left as Libs often run left and drift right. I'm not falling for these head -fakes anymore.

Scotty Davidson

@Jeffrey Wayne if you are accusing me of being alt right you are far off. I think I am voting Green next election cause why not.

Greg Goldman

@Jeffrey Wayne
No one cares about Joe Biden. He will always be a bridesmaid.

John Branscombe

@Jeffrey Wayne

It will be interesting to see if Mad Max is any use in splitting the Tory vote!

Carter Hayes

@Jeffrey Wayne Anything to the right of Stalin is extreme right in the liberals mind.

David Amos

@John Branscombe "It will be interesting to see if Mad Max is any use in splitting the Tory vote!"

Methinks the sneaky lawyer is doing a fine job embarrassing Harper 2.0 N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/outremont-byelection-today-1.5032178

Liberal Rachel Bendayan wins Outremont riding in byelection

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David Amos
Methinks it should be fairly obvious as to why the lawyer Melanie Joly who is our current Minister of Tourism, Official Languages and La Francophonie is smiling N'esy Pas?

https://rbendayan.liberal.ca/en/

"Rachel built a successful legal practice at Norton Rose Fulbright in the field of litigation and international arbitration while also teaching at the Faculty of Law of the Université de Montréal. She then served as Chief of Staff to the federal Minister of Small Business and Tourism, where she played a key role in developing the Liberal government’s women’s entrepreneurship strategy"







  



Bryan Atkinson

I've always said the Orange Wave in QC was really a Jack Layton Wave.

Mulcair won the seat again the last time. But he was party leader by then and what he presided over was hardly an Orange Wave. Even in QC. That's why he resigned.

David Amos

@Bryan Atkinson Methinks the Orange Wave had everything to do with Quebec having enough of the Bloc and their nonsense The folks didn't want to vote red or blue so they simply voted orange N'esy Pas?

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh claims victory in Burnaby South byelection

Conservatives win in York—Simcoe, Liberals claim victory in Montreal's Outremont

Peter Zimonjic· CBC News· Posted: Feb 25, 2019 7:05 PM ET

NDP leader Jagmeet Singh celebrates his Burnaby South byelection win as he arrives at his election night party in Burnaby Monday evening. (Jonathan Hayward/Canadian Press)


NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh won a critical Burnaby South byelection Monday night, finally allowing him to lead his party from within the House of Commons.

In his victory speech, Singh thanked supporters and promised to fight against poverty and continue his party's campaign for a universal pharmacare plan.

"And when I take my seat in the House of Commons, I will work hard to make you all very proud," Singh said.

Singh's win came in one of three federal byelections held Monday in B.C., Ontario and Quebec.
In Ontario's York—Simcoe riding, Conservative candidate Scot Davidson claimed victory, stepping into a seat long held by retired Conservative MP Peter Van Loan.

In the Montreal riding of Outremont, Liberal Rachel Bendayan won her campaign, taking control of a seat last held by former NDP leader Thomas Mulcair.

Results from Burnaby South in B.C., show Singh claimed victory with 39 per cent of the vote. The Liberals followed with 26 per cent, followed by the Conservatives with 22.5 per cent. Former Conservative MP Maxime Bernier's People's Party of Canada trailed with 10.6 per cent.

• Analysis
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• For the NDP, the stakes in Monday's byelections are sky-high

Singh also pledged to help the NDP "reconnect" with Quebec voters who have drifted away, in an effort to realize the political ambitions of the party's late leader, Jack Layton.

"We are the champions for Quebecers. New Democrats are the champions for Canadians, we will continue to do that work."

Low turnout 

The Conservatives secured their seat in the Ontario riding of York—Simcoe with 53.2 per cent of the vote to the Liberals' 29.9 per cent and the NDP's 7.4 per cent with 115 of 136 polls reporting.

Early numbers showed that turnout in all three byelections was low: just over 19 per cent in York—Simcoe and just over 18 per cent in Outremont. Burnaby South drew slightly larger numbers at 29 per cent, but all three fell below the average of the last 20 years which sits at just under 35 per cent for byelections.

Watch as Jagmeet Singh declares victory: 

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In Outremont — where the NDP was looking to hold on to the seat of the party's former leader — Bendayan claimed victory with 40 per cent of the vote. The NDP trailed with 26.1 per cent, followed by the Greens and then the Bloc Québécois.

"On behalf of Liberals across Canada, I want to congratulate Rachel Bendayan and her team on their hard-earned victory, and I know that she will be a dedicated voice for Outremont in Parliament," Suzanne Cowan, president of the Liberal Party of Canada, said in a statement.

Vancouver NDP MP Jenny Kwan acknowledged the loss of Outremont was "a disappointment."
"What we're going to do, of course, is learn from this experience and then we're going to redouble our efforts to ensure that the people of Quebec know we are there for them," she said at Singh's victory party.

Liberal candidate Rachel Bendayan addressed supporters after winning the by-election in the Montreal riding of Outremont on Monday. (Paul Chiasson)

The NDP has struggled since Singh became leader in 2017. The party now sits at 14 per cent nationally, 11 per cent in Quebec and 16 per cent in B.C., according to CBC's poll tracker.

Julia Sanchez, a former international development executive, was the NDP's candidate in Outremont. Bendayan, a lawyer and former party staffer, ran against Mulcair in the last election, finishing second with 33.5 per cent of the vote to Mulcair's 44 per cent.

Conservatives win York—Simcoe

While the Conservatives usually have a tough time winning when the NDP is in a weakened position, the party kept its seat in York—Simcoe, Ont., formerly held by Peter Van Loan.

The former leader of Stephen Harper's government in the Commons, Van Loan stepped down from his seat in September and announced he was retiring from politics.

Conservative candidate Scot Davidson won the byelection in the Ontario riding of York-Simcoe. (CBC)

Van Loan won York—Simcoe in the 2015 federal election with more than 50 per cent of the vote to the Liberals' almost 38 per cent.

Davidson, a businessman, beat out Liberal candidate Shaun Tanaka, a geography professor at Queen's University and the University of Toronto, who also ran for the Liberals in the 2015 electio​n.

In his victory speech, Davidson thanked supporters and told them he is going to Ottawa to be a MP for everyone. He said he is the type of guy who is eager to meet with new constituents face-to-face to hear their concerns.

The breakaway People's Party of Canada, created last summer by Bernier, faced its first electoral test in the byelections. Results suggest it could be a spoiler that deprives the Conservatives of victory in tight contests come the fall.

While the fledgling party won less than two per cent of the vote in Outremont and York—Simcoe, it did surprisingly well in Burnaby South, where Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson won more than 10 per cent of the vote after running on a "Canadians first" campaign that was denounced as anti-immigration and racist by some supporters of rival candidates.

Andrew Scheer✔@AndrewScheer

Congratulations to the next MP for York—Simcoe, Scot Davidson! Canadians can’t afford to keep paying for Justin Trudeau’s mistakes, and you’ll be a strong voice in Ottawa to help your constituents get ahead.

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Liberal Rachel Bendayan wins Outremont riding in byelection

Montreal riding was 1 of 3 races to watch in B.C., Ontario and Quebec

Elysha Enos· CBC News· Posted: Feb 25, 2019 8:44 AM ET 

Liberal candidate Rachel Bendayan speaks at her election night party following her win in the federal byelection for the Outremont riding in Quebec, as Minister of Tourism, Official Languages and La Francophonie Melanie Joly, right, looks on. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)



Liberal Rachel Bendayan has won the federal riding of Outremont in Quebec after taking 40 per cent of the vote with 95 per cent of polls reporting.

"I will honour your vote by working very hard," she said Monday night at Liberal party headquarters in Montreal's Outremont.

She stressed that the Liberals would continue to fight climate change and promote a national housing strategy.

Mélanie Joly, the minister of official languages and La Francophonie, said that despite losing to the NDP in 2015, Bendayan was always a strong candidate who continued working in the riding in the years since.

"We hope this is the end of the Orange Wave in Quebec," Joly said Monday night.

The NDP, which had held the riding since 2007, trailed in second place with less than 30 per cent of the votes.

Outremont was one of three ridings where federal byelections took place Monday on a crucial day for Canada's major political parties.

• Canada Votes
  NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh claims victory in Burnaby South byelection

Voter turnout was low, as is typical for a byelection. Less than 20 per cent of the 70,400 registered voters in Outremont cast a ballot.

Political insiders had bet that the Liberals would retake the riding  — a welcome boost for the governing party's morale in the midst of the SNC-Lavalin controversy.

"Tonight, the people of Outremont and thousands of Canadians voting in these byelections have offered a strong vote of confidence in Justin Trudeau's positive plan to strengthen the middle class," said Suzanne Cowan, president of the Liberal Party of Canada.

 

Mia Anhoury@mia_anhoury

Outremont resident, Claudette Dumas Bergen, says the weather was holding her back but she adds “my civic duty came to me and I said I have to go because it’s important!” #Outremont@CBCMontreal

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8:26 PM - Feb 25, 2019

Analysts said the Outremont race was a crucial test for the NDP.

The riding had been a Liberal stronghold until Thomas Mulcair scored an upset in a 2007 byelection: the Liberals had lost the riding only once, to the Progressive Conservatives in 1988, since 1935.

The so-called Orange Wave followed in 2011 and boosted the NDP to Official Opposition status for the first time in its history.

While the party held onto just 16 Quebec seats in 2015, Quebec MPs still make up more than a third of the NDP caucus.

• Analysis
  The Orange Wave's last stand? Outremont byelection a critical test for NDP in Quebec

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau campaigns at a coffee shop in the Outremont riding with Liberal candidate Rachel Bendayan. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)

These are the candidates who ran in Outremont and how much of the vote they took by the time 95 per cent of ballots had been counted:

• 40 per cent: Rachel  Bendayan — Liberal Party of Canada. 
• 29 per cent: Julia Sánchez — New Democratic Party.
• 13 per cent: Daniel Green — Green Party of Canada.
• 11 per cent: Michel Duchesne — Bloc Québécois.
• 6 per cent: Jasmine Louras — Conservative Party of Canada.
• 2 per cent: James Seale — People's Party of Canada.
• 0.3 per cent: William Barrett — Independent.

Besides Outremont's race, two other byelections were held: one in the Ontario riding of York-Simcoe where Conservative candidate Scot Davidson claimed victory and a critical race in B.C.'s Burnaby South, where NDP leader Jagmeet Singh claimed victory. 

• Canada Votes
  What to look for in today's byelections

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What U.S. envoy Elliott Abrams' controversial past signals for Venezuela's future

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David Amos

I sure hope many of my fellow Canadians pay close attention to what Mr Schwarz has tried to inform us of.

"Schwarz said the reason for Abram's appointment is simple: he "gets the job done."

"People who run the U.S. government, especially the people from the U.S. right wing, truly do believe that we should, for the good of everyone, run the world. And if you need to run the world, Elliott Abrams is the guy you get."

Anne Bochan

@David Amos yes to them the end justifies the means every time

Anne Bochan

@David Amos it isn't about the people of Venezuela. They don't even rate in this.

David Amos

@Anne Bochan I wholeheartedly agree It our involvement in the latest evil circus engineered by Abrams et al that truly disgusts me

What U.S. envoy Elliott Abrams' controversial past signals for Venezuela's future

'Over and over again ... he is the man who has been called on to help overthrow foreign governments'

CBC Radio· Posted: Feb 22, 2019 6:45 PM ET

U.S. Special Representative for Venezuela Elliott Abrams testifies before the House Foreign Affairs subcommittee hearing on Venezuela on Capitol Hill in Washington. (Jose Luis Magana/Associated Press)

Who is Elliott Abrams?

Elliott Abrams, 71, is a long-time U.S. foreign policy official with a storied — and highly-controversial — career.

He worked for the Reagan administration in the 1980s and the George Bush administration that followed. Abrams also served in the George W. Bush White House as an advisor on Middle East affairs.

Before his 1985 appointment to head of the State Department's Latin America bureau, Abrams headed the State Department's Bureau of Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs. Harvard-educated, he spent four years working for the U.S. Senate, during which he also wrote about foreign policy.

Jon Schwarz, a senior writer with The Intercept, told Day 6 Abrams is "kind of one step down from Henry Kissinger in the U.S. foreign policy elite."
In January, the Trump administration appointed him to be special envoy for Venezuela.

Abrams accepted, saying, "This crisis in Venezuela is deep and difficult and dangerous, and I can't wait to get to work on it."

Elliott Abrams, left, listens to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo talk about Venezuela at the State Department in Washington. (Manuel Balce Ceneta/Associated Press)

What is his new role in Venezuela going to be?

Abrams has been tasked with restoring democracy in the country, according to a statement by Secretary of State Michael Pompeo.

Venezuela has been in political turmoil since a contested election in 2017, and there are currently two presidents vying for power.

The Associated Press reported last week that Venezuelan officials say Abrams has had two meetings with Venezuela's foreign minister. According to those officials, the U.S. used those meetings to threaten sanctions and the deployment of troops to oust President Nicolas Maduro, who neither the U.S. nor Canada recognizes as legitimate.

Instead, the governments of Canada, the United States and other countries recognize opposition leader Juan Guaido as the country's lawful leader.


RELATED LINK: Guaido says Venezuela's opposition is 'not going anywhere' in CBC interview

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 Venezuela's opposition supporters rallied nationwide to keep the heat on embattled President Nicolas Maduro. At the same time, government supporters took to the streets in Caracas and other cities denouncing foreign intervention. Neither side is willing to back down. 4:54

Why are people concerned about Abrams' new job?

Schwarz calls Abrams' appointment "extremely ominous for Venezuela."

That's because Abrams has a history of involvement with rebellions in Latin America and strong public support for dictatorships. Critics like Schwarz have raised three examples: Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala.

In 1991, Abrams pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of illegally withholding information from Congress about secret, unlawful government efforts to aid right-wing Nicaraguan rebels in their fight against the left-wing Sandinista government. Abrams was later pardoned by President George Bush for his role in that scandal, which became known as the Iran-Contra affair.

In a Feb. 13 Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Venezuela, new member of Congress Ilhan Omar questioned why, given how he lied to Congress in the '80s, the government should trust Abrams now.

She also criticized his 1982 dismissal of the El Mozote massacre, in which nearly 1,000 civilians were killed in an El Salvadorian village by military personnel the U.S. trained and equipped.

At the time, Abrams said reports of the massacre were left-wing propaganda. He has called the Reagan administration's work in El Salvador a "fabulous achievement."

Omar asked Abrams if he thought the massacre was a fabulous achievement and he declined to respond.

Omar also asked Abrams if he would "support an armed faction within Venezuela that engages in war crimes, crimes against humanity or genocide if you believed they were serving U.S. interests, as you did in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua?"

During Abrams' tenure with the Reagan administration, the U.S. supported Guatemalan General Efraín Ríos Montt — who was convicted of genocide in 2013 — despite knowing he had killed his own people.

Again, Abrams refused to respond.

"Over and over and over again in his career he is the man who has been called on to help overthrow foreign governments. He has always done it under a rhetoric of democracy and human rights," Schwarz said.

"His role was to downplay the unbelievable barbarism, support the people who were carrying out these incredible atrocities trying to make sure that they didn't face the consequences," he added.

What informs Abrams' thoughts on foreign policy?

People often call Abrams neo-conservative. In the 1990s, he led a Judeo-Christian think tank focused on applying those religious values to foreign policy.

Prior to his 1985 appointment as head of the State Department's Latin America bureau, Abrams reportedly said his worldview was based on the premise that the world was "an exceedingly dangerous place."

He has been avowedly anti-communist, reportedly calling the Soviet Union, "the greatest threat to human rights."

Schwarz said Abram's anti-communist rhetoric bears scrutiny.

"What you have to understand is that from the perspective of people like Abrams, what is communism? Is it erecting a gigantic statue of Joseph Stalin? No, it's not. It's people who say, 'We would like to eat every day. We would like our children not to die from easily preventable diseases.' That to them is communism."

Venezuelan National guards block the road at the border between Venezuela and Brazil in Pacaraima, Roraima state in Brazil. Across the border, at least one person was killed in an apparent clash with security forces on Friday. (Ricardo Moraes/Reuters)

Why would the Trump administration appoint someone with Abrams' record?

Abrams has not always been an ally to President Donald Trump. In 2016, he wrote that Republicans should "not allow the Republican convention to be a coronation wherein Trump and Trumpism are unchallenged." In 2017, Trump blocked Abrams' appointment to Deputy Secretary of State.
Schwarz said the reason for Abram's appointment is simple: he "gets the job done."

"People who run the U.S. government, especially the people from the U.S. right wing, truly do believe that we should, for the good of everyone, run the world. And if you need to run the world, Elliott Abrams is the guy you get."

In a press briefing, Secretary of State Michael Pompeo said "[Abrams'] passion for the rights and liberties of all peoples makes him a perfect fit and a valuable and timely addition."

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To hear the full interview with Jon Schwarz, download our podcast or click the 'Listen' button at the top of this page.

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:12:02 -0400
Subject: Attn Jon Schwarz I just sent you a message byway of Twitter
because of what you said on CBC recently
To: jon.schwarz@theintercept.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

My cell number is xxx xxx xxxx

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"Jon Schwarz, a senior writer with The Intercept, told Day 6 Abrams is
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David Amos
I sure hope many of my fellow Canadians pay close attention to what Mr
Schwarz has tried to inform us of.

"Schwarz said the reason for Abram's appointment is simple: he "gets
the job done."

"People who run the U.S. government, especially the people from the
U.S. right wing, truly do believe that we should, for the good of
everyone, run the world. And if you need to run the world, Elliott
Abrams is the guy you get."



https://theintercept.com/staff/jonschwarz/


Jon Schwarz

Before joining First Look, Jon Schwarz worked for Michael Moore’s Dog
Eat Dog Films and was Research Producer for Moore’s “Capitalism: A
Love Story.”

He’s contributed to many publications, including the New Yorker, the
New York Times, The Atlantic, the Wall Street Journal, Mother Jones,
and Slate, as well as NPR and “Saturday Night Live.”

In 2003 he collected on a $1,000 bet that Iraq would have no weapons
of mass destruction.



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---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Mr. Amos,
We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
of Nova Scotia.  Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
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not be responding to further emails on this matter.

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> To: coi@gnb.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Good Day Sir
>
> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>
> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>
> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
> suggested that you study closely.
>
> This is the docket in Federal Court
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>
> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>
> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>
> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>
> April 3rd, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>
>
> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>
>
> The only hearing thus far
>
> May 24th, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>
>
> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>
> Date: 20151223
>
> Docket: T-1557-15
>
> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>
> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>
> BETWEEN:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>
> Plaintiff
>
> and
>
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
> Defendant
>
> ORDER
>
> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
> December 14, 2015)
>
> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
> in its entirety.
>
> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
> he stated:
>
> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
> You are your brother’s keeper.
>
> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
> Police.
>
> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>
>
> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
> is no order as to costs.
>
> “B. Richard Bell”
> Judge
>
>
> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>
>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>
> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
> dudes are way past too late
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merci ,
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>
>
> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> December 8, 2014
> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>
> Friday, October 3, 2014
> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>
> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>
> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> campaign of 2006.
>
> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>
> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>
> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>
> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>
> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>
> Subject:
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> January 30, 2007
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Mr. David Amos
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>
> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> Minister of Health
>
> CM/cb
>
>
> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>
> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>
> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>
> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>
>  Sincerely,
>
> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> Traffic Services NCO
> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>
>
>
> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
> tel.: 506-457-7890
> fax: 506-444-5224
> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>


On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:

> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz
> ilian.html
>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>
>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>
>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>> cards?
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.
>>
>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html


Sunday, 19 November 2017
Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
The Supreme Court

https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do


Federal Court of Appeal Decisions

Amos v. Canada
Court (s) Database

Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
Date

2017-10-30
Neutral citation

2017 FCA 213
File numbers

A-48-16
Date: 20171030

Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.


BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:

THE COURT



Date: 20171030

Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.


BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT

I.                    Introduction

[1]               On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
(Claim at para. 96).

[2]               On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
Prothontary’s Order).


[3]               On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).


[4]               Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
cross-appeal.


II.                 Preliminary Matter

[5]               Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
several judges but did not name those judges.

[6]               Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
c. F-7:


5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
Appeal.
[…]

5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
[…]
5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.

5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
juges de la Cour fédérale.


[7]               However, these subsections only provide that the
judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
section.
[8]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide that:
3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.

3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
matière civile et pénale.
4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.

4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
compétence en matière civile et pénale.


[9]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
(section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
appeal book.


[10]           Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
conflict in any matter related to him.


[11]           On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.


[12]           During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
such judge had a conflict.


[13]           The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
was a member of such firm.


[14]           During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
Court of Canada over 10 years ago.


[15]           The documents that he submitted in relation to the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
“John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
[16]           Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
apprehension of bias:
60        In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
reasonable apprehension of bias:
… the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
unconsciously, would not decide fairly."

[17]           The issue to be determined is whether an informed
person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
(4th) 193).

[18]           The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
27        Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.


28        The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."


29        It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.


30        That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
            To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
31        There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
his former firm for a considerable period of time.


32        In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
events from over a decade ago.
(emphasis added)

[19]           Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
Webb hearing this appeal.

[20]           Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
(2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.

[21]           In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.

[22]           Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.

[23]           As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
to recuse himself.

[24]           Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.

[25]           Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.


III.               Issue

[26]           The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?

IV.              Analysis

A.                 Standard of Review

[27]           Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
[Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
(Hospira at paras. 82-83).

[28]           In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
interfere.


B.                 Did the Judge err in interfering with the
Prothonotary’s Order?

[29]           The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:

17.       Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
(…)


21.       The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
[footnotes omitted].


[30]           The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
para. 27).


[31]           The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:


[13]      As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:

a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;

b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and

c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
(Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).

[32]           The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
“political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).

[33]           This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:

…When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
“The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
of process…

To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
(at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).

[34]           Applying the Housen standard of review to the
Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.

[35]           The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
supporting a cause of action.

[36]           In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).

V.                 Conclusion
[37]           For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
without leave to amend.
"Wyman W. Webb"
J.A.
"David G. Near"
J.A.
"Mary J.L. Gleason"
J.A.



FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD

A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
DOCKET:

A-48-16



STYLE OF CAUSE:

DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN



PLACE OF HEARING:

Fredericton,
New Brunswick

DATE OF HEARING:

May 24, 2017

REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:

WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.

DATED:

October 30, 2017

APPEARANCES:
David Raymond Amos


For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
(on his own behalf)

Jan Jensen


For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL

SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
Nathalie G. Drouin
Deputy Attorney General of Canada

For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL

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@Troy Bodi

If it turns out Trudeau lied, the consequences are fairly obvious. It’s unfortunate that those who prejudged based on petty partisan politics face no consequence whatsoever if Trudeau’s story holds true.

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@Gideon Warren
How can the PCs possibly destroy something the politically correct Liberals have already done? Just go West and sample the alienation.

Charly Vaughan

@Troy Bodi at least sunny ways have a song to sing vs the cons blowing their air horns on the virtue of dirty oil

Jamie Gillis

@Troy Bodi

I don't know what we're going to hear tomorrow, but I think it's safe to say this: I doubt Gerald would have resigned and the PMO would have lit itself on fire in one of the worst examples of damage control and communications if this didn't have the potential to seriously damage Trudeau/PMO. But I think it's fair to also say that if her side of the story leaves us saying "oh! That's all this was about?" then we would have the right to be seriously irritated that we were subjected to a pointless melodrama.

Carson Brook

@Troy Bodi
No - everyone doesn't have 'their' story straight. Right here in this article is Lisa Raitt doing the reconstruction of the issues so's to cover up the Scheer party's hysterical smearing about , oh dear, JWR felt pressure is why she did the quit-splat on veterans

Raitt making up a new story about "either in what Mr. Lametti said, or in what the prime minister said, that caused her to realize she didn't have the confidence of the cabinet any longer and she had to remove herself "

Hello LIsa - your new spin about what's not been at all part of the faker smear story - won't work. Because if all this is not about 'her truth' or 'her pressure' - then it's all been just one more bitter brooding malcontent shafting the team..... who did the quit-splat using some hidden surrogate spilling fake allegations on the JWR"s behalf

So say Scheer party, all the news outlets, and upheld in the silence while moving about JWR herself. And two bottom lines (1) every Prime Minister has obligation to create his own best Cabinet - and he owes no explanation to anyone for any of that; people chosen get to say yes I will or no I won't - she said yes. (2) then she did the quit-splat and mega skillful sculking sulk Here we are - until she has her 30 minutes plus of truth telling and issue avoidance

Troy Bodi

@Carson Brook

I'm talking about the Liberals getting their story straight. I haven't a clue what you're ranting about.

Richard Sharp

@Troy Bodi

The Libs have entered unprecedented territory in allowing this committee to proceed, and the call was made by the committee itself, not by the PM or the PMO. That’s a first in Canadian history. Harper would have shut it down on a dime.

Unprecedented event number two. Allowing the former and existing justice Minister to appear, along with the DM of justice and the Clerk of the Privacy Council. Three? Waiving solicitor client privilege and Cabinet confidentialiyy. Four (at least compared to the Cons)? Not attacking every critic. The Harper Cons would be into full frontal character assassinations by now.

Carson Brook

@Gideon Warren

Jody WIlson-Raybould has no crack at leadership role. Unless she's drawn to a hotel room meeting with Scheer a la Leona Alleslev. But that would shock even me... whose belief in JWR has been shattered by her own behaviour.
Leaders don't keep their truths in a closet; don't get unnamed surrogates to dish secretive dirt in unsupported allegations; don't mislead their team leaders, and never ever do quit-splats against the oaths they took of their own volition

david kirby

@Richard Sharp
Surely you joke. This Committee is chaired by someone who said she was moved because she could not speak French? What is sorely needed is an inquiry devoid of any partisanship.

Troy Bodi

@Richard Sharp

Well isn't that special of them. Kinda like the guy that turns himself into the cops on his own accord.

Either way, good to see everyone has their talking points down. Libs aren't Cons. Cons aren't Libs. None of them have any integrity. Hey! common ground! Working together is fun.

Jamie Gillis

@Carson Brook

Your smears of JWR are entirely out of line and untrue. So far there is zero evidence that she is only acting in her own interest. Your smears against Lisa Raitt and the Conservatives are also unfounded. They've been far from hysterical. They're doing what the rest of the opposition is doing - looking for answers. The Liberals would do the same if the roles were reversed and you know it.

Jamie Gillis

@david kirby

I agree, David. The Liberals certainly haven't shown any valour in this.

Richard Sharp

@Troy Bodi

The INDEPENDENT justice committee is proceeding with its investigation, the Lib government is cooperating by allowing very senior witnesses, including Ministers and senior public servants, and by waiving solicitor client privilege and Cabinet confidentiality, AND STILL Trudeau and the Libs are getting smeared Nine out of ten posts, like yours.

This from Canada’s national broadcaster, charged with promoting national unity.

Stephen David

@Richard Sharp

The Liberals are losing by 7 points Richard.....they are finished.

Stephen David

@Richard Sharp

Sorry Richard the Liberals are done...check out the Angus Reid poll or the Huffington post....oh yeah!

Darren MacDonald

@Troy Bodi Someone is probably still behind the scene calling the shots.

Jamie Gillis

@Richard Sharp "All you ever do is deny, deflect and distract. Smear and sneer. Try those important little things like evidence and proof."

Thanks for the unprovoked personal attack, Richard. Makes me smile.

Ewan Cameron

@David Sampson
Didn’t stop you with the Duffy feeding frenzy. By the way, he was found not guilty in a court of law.

Carson Brook

@Jamie Gillis
smears, eh? maybe go back and read my comment about Lisa Raitt because - whooo - it was a quote from her in this article.
Smears of JWR? Go back and read my comment - what point are you claiming is inaccurate. Every point about her conduct is accurate according statements made by her, by her surrogate, or in her name. Or are you just unhappy that there's any clear look at the process of all this instead of the way people are going with the flow of the septic content put out between the Bob Fife article to Lisa Raitt's reconstruction today?
I understand your feeling unhappy. Now you understand that lots of people sharing my view from the perch are also unhappy

Carson Brook

@david kirby

More about difference between 'process' and 'content'. JWR will spent 30 minutes tomorrow on content\; who said what, when etc. in order to account for her hidden truth, her quit-splat of the veterans, her failure to speak truth to power not, as she indicates, by having to have 30 minutes tomorrow to itemize her failure to have dynamic, balanced, full, honest, and clearly expressive communications with anyone she'd taken an oath of office to be on a team with. Her content may be salacious, interesting, anecdotally fascinating - and fodder for the salacious minded 'opposition' -
but it's the nature of her process as she enacted her role as Justice Minister and Attorney General of Canada - and then as an MP accepting a new Cabinet position which is at the root cause of this whole messy disservice to the processes of our governance. She made those process choices. Each of us has to choose how we are upstanding in our lives. It's not about 'content' - its about how we act who we are moment by moment.

Jamie Gillis

@Carson Brook "I understand your feeling unhappy."

I'm feeling quite content on the whole, Carson. Thanks for your concern.

Len Evans

@Gideon Warren
So you feel she might be seeking the Leadership of the Liberal party? Wow. That's the second time in as many days I've heard that same thought... So the thought is that she scuttles the current leadership structure from within, casts doubt & shadow around those who might be a problem. Then she attempts to take the leadership herself? All by design? That theory might explain a good many things to me.

Tony Spencer

@Stephen David Ha. Way to count your chickens, Stevie.

David Amos

@Troy Bodi Methinks Anthony Housefather and his boss Trudeau should know they cannot stop Jody Wilson-Raybould from talking about Federal Court File No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas?

Sandra Largent

@Richard Sharp If I may remind you when the Duffy scandal was going on Harper opened it up for examination by the courts, so Richard I know you struggle with having your party embroiled this way . Even the PM is not above the law nor any cabinet minister of any party. Don't worry if everything is above board you should have no worries. Have a great afternoon tomorrow, TRUTH TO POWER as JWR said in her statement.

Sandra Largent

@david kirby Along with many other excuse too many to mention.

Sandra Largent

@Richard Sharp Ah, your last line is very telling, I shall say no more on THAT subject and I would not go down that path if I were you.

Sandra Largent

@Jamie Gillis I have been told numerous times that personal attacks won't be tolerated by CBC, strangely Richard seems to be immune.

David Amos

@Carson Brook "No - everyone doesn't have 'their' story straight"

Speak for yourself

David Amos

@Richard Sharp Yea Right

David Amos 

@Troy Bodi Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No. T-1557-15" in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harper's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to info found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015

Everybody knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?

Arlond Lynds

@Troy Bodi
Wilson-Raybould appears to be the only one with something she needs to get off her chest, so have at it, grind that axe Jody. Personally I have been totally unimpressed with how Wilson-Raybould has handled this entire issue.

Richard Sharp

@Carson Brook

Jamie stalks me day and night. You?

 
Chris Spiers

What a patronizing PM. The arrogance of his actions is incredible

"share her perspectives" - so with that phrase, its not the truth, its her opinion is what he is saying.

Jeff Smith

@Chris Spiers

She experienced it differently.......

John Reed

@Chris Spiers how can you expecnt anything less? his arrogance is on full display at all times.

Mark Burgoyne

@Chris Spiers Every conversation has two sides, the truth is almost always in the middle

Chris Spiers

@Mark Burgoyne
except when coming from Trudeau, the truth is a straight as one of his parade attendees

James Fitzgibbon

@Chris Spiers

Would you prefer if she shared someone else's perspectives?

Chris Spiers

@James Fitzgibbon

How about the Truth and not "perspectives" (point of view)

Stan Brown

@Chris Spiers I believe his arrogance actually has him thinking he did no wrong. Would seem 5 previous ethics violations would support that.

Xavier Galan

@Chris Spiers
The truth will only come out until a proper investigation is done. Until then, any opinions on the matter is just that opinions.

Frank Cow

@Chris Spiers Finally Trudeau will be cleared and all this nonsense will be in the open. How many here are actually posting from Canada?
This is a nonsense story that is nothing more than smoke..made from dry ice on top of it.

Chris Spiers

@Frank Cow

You really think that foreigners want to undermind Trudeau?

They want to keep him around, he has proven that he can be dominated by foreign leaders, Corporate Leaders, and Special Interest Groups.

He is the type of puppet that Globalist want, controllable

David Allan

@Chris Spiers
"so with that phrase, its not the truth, its her opinion is what he is saying."

It's her professional opinion as a lawyer.

Get a clue.

David Allan

@Chris Spiers

"How about the Truth and not "perspectives" (point of view)"

What's the difference?

Look at your own posts. They're your perspectives and frequently so far from reality and truth that they appear to be satire.

Chris Spiers

@David Allan

I thank you for thinking my opinions and posts have influence on Canadian Law and Governance, but they don't.

But, Every statement that Trudeau puts out is a reflection of our government and thus gets scrutinized.

So when he plays with words to dazzle you, I go unfazed and see right through Mr Transparency

Carson Brook

@Chris Spiers
Clearly, by your comments, you don't care what she says at all - you're only interested in what our Prime Minister says. Which you call 'arrogance' just because he's been so brave and available about answering all the sickening and lurid trash Qs tossed at him. But you do confess to care more about his perspective than hers. Good for you

david kirby

@Chris Spiers
This whole saga has 'Academic Speak' written all over it. "Her truths" , "Share her perspectives". Even the Oscars were more credible

david kirby

@Carson Brook
Trudeau brave? I can think of many descriptors but that is not one of them

Chris Maurier

@Chris Spiers When many are too abuse and have trouble with comprehension they usually see the other as patronizing .

Robert Lee

@Chris Spiers

Sounds to me like he's echoing JWR's evasive and ambiguous ,

"Tell my truth"

Len Evans

@Chris Spiers

In the words of Obi-wan Kenobi;
“... you’re going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.” “The truth is often what we make of it; you heard what you wanted to hear, believed what you wanted to believe.”

David Amos

@Robert Lee Methinks it is as the Yankees often say It ain't over til the fat lady sings N'esy Pas?

Sandra Largent

@Chris Spiers Yes and Soros would not be keen to lose him, nor the UN.

Sandra Largent

@Carson Brook Oh really, I listen to QP frequently and I have yet to hear him answer a question that's not a word salad.

Arlond Lynds

@Chris Spiers
Honestly, you felt that was worth saying? And all your little uppers joined in???

 
Luke Armstrong

This took too long and Trudeau's nose seems to be getting larger by the day....What's going on?

Rhea Montgomery

@Luke Armstrong It took the amount of time it takes for the legal process to happen. But keep going with that if it makes you feel better.

Robert Brannen

@Luke Armstrong

It's called due diligence.

Mark O'Connell

@Robert Brannen its called smoke and mirrors

James Fitzgibbon

@Luke Armstrong

Looks like due process to me. But then I don't buy into far right conspiracy theories.

David Allan

@Luke Armstrong

How long should it have taken and what's your expert background to make such a claim?

Carson Brook

@David Allan

wrote a reply about this being such a good question etc

and got the red block.... heads up

colin smith

@Luke Armstrong

Legal things take time. SNC Lavalin investigation is ongoing. They have to make sure from legal point of view to not undermine the investigation. This doesn't seem to be Liberal or Conservative thing. This legal thing only and now that privilege can be waved we get fing out what's going on. Almost seems to me that Conservative supporters are worried the results might not be damning as the Conservatives have been pushing. For Conservative to win they need a scandal like this. If there isn't a scandal then winning the election means they have to work for it and we haven't seen Scheer even begin to work for it. He just feels entitled to win. That won't get him a majority.

I don't like the Conservative at this time but that's just what I'm seeing. I'm not sure who I'll vote for just won't be Conservative it an Election was held today. In 6 month that might change.

Robert Lee

@Luke Armstrong

Ya, guess what? Two ongoing court cases to keep mindful of.

I hope SNC sues all the blabber mouths for smearing them on the news.

David Amos

@Robert Lee My lawsuit heading for the Supreme Court soon

Arlond Lynds

@Luke Armstrong
This went by in a flash, usually when Scheer is crying wolf, wolf, wolf it takes a month or two for anyone to even notice.

Richard Sharp

@Luke Armstrong

No PM has ever been so open and accommodating to public scrutiny as Trudeau.

David Amos

@Robert Lee "I hope SNC sues all the blabber mouths for smearing them on the news."

I hope they sue me

David Amos

@Richard Sharp "No PM has ever been so open and accommodating to public scrutiny as Trudeau."

How do you sleep without a clear conscience?

 
Charles Farley

Hopefully the truth comes out and this can be settled once and for all.

Dwight Williams

@Charles Farley

Anyone can agree with that.

Gary Barratt

@Charles Farley I do not think so

Peter Bota

@Charles Farley knowing Trudeau is behind the whole thing makes it clear we will never know the truth

Robert Brannen

@Peter Bota

So, you are one of the, until now, anonymous sources?

Ron Vollans

@Charles Farley
It will never be settled in the eyes of some. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

david kirby

@Ron Vollans
Of course it will not be settled. The Liberals will claim they were just providing context and the opposition will say the Government were exerting undue pressure. The only thing for sure is it shows just how badly the PMO handled what was a communications crisis. Heaven help us if a real crisis occurs.

Tony Spencer

@david kirby So then, this is not a real crisis in your mind? That's interesting.

David Amos

@Charles Farley Dream on

Dan Cooper

@Charles Farley

I am outraged at the lengths the CBC will go to to campaign for the Liberals.

LOL

David Amos

@Dan Cooper Me Too

Arlond Lynds

@Charles Farley
Like the mob on hear is looking for truth.

David Amos

@Arlond Lynds Check my work id ya dare

 
Kevin Carns

Fact Trudeau tried to cover this up from day 1
Fact three people resigned from their jobs
Fact Trudeau took a nose dive in the polls
Now all of sudden its ok for Jody to speak , sure thing

Dan Lmnaga

@Kevin Carns After everything was lawyered up from 2 sides.

Robert Lee

@Kevin Carns

So keeping discreet about PMO business is a "cover up"?

David Amos

@Dan Lmnaga YUP

David Amos

@Kevin Carns "Now all of sudden its ok for Jody to speak , sure thing"

You do understand that this is just a wicked game played at our expense?

 
Chuck Cunningham

"What we were doing is establishing a process that's fair and open and allows transparency"
=
"We were stalling and trying to get our stories straight"

David Amos

@Chuck Cunningham YUP

 
Chris Bond

Trudeau is a complete disgrace. Over three weeks to waive privilege.

Graham Greene

@Chris Bond

Hahaha . . . . . . I see this playing out just 'fine' , chris . . . . !

Richard Riel

@Chris Bond And only partly waived.

Chris Bond

@Graham Greene
Yes with Trudeau's approval rating falling of a cliff.
That is just fine with me.

David Amos

@Chris Bond Welcome to the Circus

Arlond Lynds

@Chris Bond
He is a busy man, the fact all you lot have to do is spread disinformation is not his problem. You usually have no trouble making it up so whats the problem or rush?

 
chris bowdler

First trudeau tries to fix the law for a “plea bargain”....but that failed.... now he is changing the penalty of 10 years embargo on government contracts to basically a slap on the hand....help is always on the way from trudeau if U are a Que based Organisation. Government, etc.

Bryan Doehler

@chris bowdler ".. now he is changing the penalty of 10 years embargo on government contracts to basically a slap on the hand.." - Do you have a source for that?

Bob Lashram

@Bryan Doehler ...it was reported yesterday...Chris is absolutely correct on this...Unfortunately, my attempt to point this out was not allowed...

Bryan Doehler

@Bob Lashram Where was it reported?, you can say that at least

patricia gibson

@chris bowdler https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/columnists/russell-wangersky-now-an-even-bigger-loophole-287373/

Stirling Malory Archer

@patricia gibson an opinion piece, nice...

Rick Poulter

@chris bowdler
Scheer would have done it better!
He would have made sure that the 2/3 of SNC-Lavalin employees that work outside Quebec lost their jobs too.

David Amos

@Stirling Malory Archer Whose opinion?

David Amos

@Stirling Malory Archer FYI I figured it out and sent him an email

 
bill chagwich

the only way Canadians will move away from this mess is Trudeau needs to resign, the trust is gone

Stan Nova

@bill chagwich

Really? then where is no confidence vote? that's what i thought

Randall Johnson

@bill chagwich
Not true.
Many of us have jumped to conclusions, that's what happens when there is lots of missing information.
Same scenario for Liberals, Conservatives, NDP etc.
Time to relax & wait for Wilson-Raybould's testimony.
I suspect we will all learn something from this.

Jono Fullerton

@Stan Nova what's the point of a confidence motion in a Liberal majority house? Look at the results when Scheer motioned for an investigation, it was Liberals vs the truth, and the Liberals won.
What is needed is recall legislation, then the people of Canada could decide rather than these slimy politicians closing ranks around their embattled leader and his rat faced puppet master

Stacey Bindman

@bill chagwich
Sadly, Trudeau's resigning will NEVER happen.......

David Amos

@Randall Johnson "I suspect we will all learn something from this."

Why wait? Why not follow the clues I have been giving everyone?

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David Amos
 @Randall Johnson Trust that Gerald Butts, Andrew Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that it irritated me big time when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?

Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" N'esy Pas?











 
Jimmy johnson

She still has a gag order on her that Trudeau reminded her of.......time to call in the RCMP on the liberals to find the "real" truth......

David Amos

@Jimmy johnson Good luck with the RCMP acting ethically

Wilson-Raybould says PMO restricting her ability to 'speak freely' at Justice committee Wednesday

Former attorney general has been granted broad waiver on cabinet confidence, solicitor-client privilege

Kathleen Harris· CBC News· Posted: Feb 26, 2019 10:59 AM ET

Liberal MP Jody Wilson-Raybould has been invited to testify at the Commons justice committee Wednesday to answer questions on alleged political interference in the SNC-Lavalin affair. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Jody Wilson-Raybould wrote to the chair of the justice committee Tuesday evening to say that while she will agree to give testimony before MPs on Wednesday, she will not be able to speak freely because of constraints that still exist around what she can and can't talk about.

The former justice minister had obtained a broad waiver from the Prime Minister's Office that allows her to disclose details of her conversations with government officials about the prosecution of SCN Lavalin, a Montreal-based global engineering and construction company.

In an Order in  Council (OIC) posted online, the government said Wilson-Raybould — "and any persons who directly participated in discussions with her relating to the exercise of her authority under the Director of Public Prosecutions Act respecting the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin" — can report to the committee and to the federal ethics commissioner any cabinet confidences "in any information or communications that were directly discussed with her respecting the exercise of that authority while she held that office."

But in the letter to Anthony Housefather, Wilson-Raybould said those parameters will not allow her to "speak freely."
"The OIC addresses only my time as attorney general of Canada and therefore does nothing to release me from any restrictions that apply to communications while I served as minister of veterans affairs and in relation to my resignation from that post or my presentation to cabinet after I had resigned," she said in the letter.

• Trudeau government clears Wilson-Raybould to give details to Commons committee on SNC-Lavalin

• Wilson-Raybould to testify in parliamentary probe of SNC-Lavalin scandal, but no witnesses from PMO called

"I mention this simply to alert the committee to the fact that the Order in Council leaves in place whatever restraints there are on my ability to speak freely about matters that occurred after I left the post of attorney general."

On Monday, Wilson-Raybould wrote the committee saying she is "anxious" to appear, and sought permission to deliver a 30-minute opening statement instead of the usual five to 10 minutes, a request which has been granted by the committee.

Politics News

Trudeau pleased that Wilson-Raybould will share her story

 PM Justin Trudeau says that waiving privilege is something they take seriously, but he is glad that Jody Wilson-Raybould will be able to tell her side of things in front of the Justice Committee. 0:21

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Tuesday he's "pleased" that Wilson-Raybould will be able to "share her perspectives" on the SNC-Lavalin affair.

"It's important that people get an opportunity to testify, or share their point of view, at committee," Trudeau told reporters as he headed into the weekly Liberal cabinet meeting.

"As we said, waiving privilege, waiving cabinet confidentiality is something that we had to take very seriously, but I'm pleased that Ms. Wilson-Raybould is going to be able to share her perspectives."

Politics News

Lametti outlines process for waiving privilege

 Justice Minister David Lametti outlines discussions between both sides to waive solicitor client privilege in order for his predecessor to be able to appear in front of the Justice Committee. 0:32

The OIC waived cabinet confidence and solicitor-client privilege for Wilson-Raybould in her conversations with the justice committee and the ethics commissioner. The waiver does not cover communications between Wilson-Raybould and the director of public prosecutions — a limit imposed to "uphold the integrity of any criminal or civil proceedings," according to the text of the order.

• Top civil servant denies 'inappropriate' pressure against Wilson-Raybould in SNC-Lavalin case

• 'Pay close heed' to words of top bureaucrat on SNC-Lavalin affair, Trudeau says

Justice Minister and Attorney General David Lametti said the order achieves two objectives.
"What we were doing is establishing a process that's fair and open and allows transparency but still protects the very principles that we want to protect in the legal system, as well as not interfering with ongoing litigation," he said.

Lametti confirmed there were "contacts" between lawyers, but would not say whether he was talking about discussions between government lawyers and Wilson-Raybould's counsel — retired Supreme Court justice Thomas Cromwell.

The justice committee is examining the growing controversy touched off by a Feb. 7 Globe and Mail report that said Trudeau's aides attempted to press Wilson-Raybould to intervene in the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin to help the company avoid criminal prosecution on bribery charges related to contracts in Libya.

Power and Politics

Justice committee chair looks ahead to JWR testimony

 'I anticipate tomorrow there may be some difficult rulings to make,' says Anthony Housefather. 6:56

Wilson-Raybould resigned from cabinet on Feb. 12, and has remained silent on the matter, insisting she's still bound by solicitor-client confidentiality from her time as attorney general.

"I understand fully that Canadians want to know the truth and want transparency," she told the House of Commons last week. "Privilege and confidentiality are not mine to waive, and I hope that I have the opportunity to speak my truth."

Housefather said he believes all of Wilson-Raybould's previous concerns have now been addressed and she will now have the opportunity to give her account of events.

"I think she now can tell her side of the story. With 30 minutes, I think she'll have ample time to do so and I look forward to hearing from her, as I know the other committee members do," he said.

Why did she resign?

Conservative justice critic and deputy leader Lisa Raitt will press Wilson-Raybould on what happened in various meetings and whether she engaged in any discussions that were, in her opinion, inappropriate. But she said the big unanswered question is what prompted Wilson-Raybould to resign.

• Wilson-Raybould tells Commons she wants to 'speak my truth' on SNC-Lavalin, tells Liberals she's still on-side

"What was it either in what Mr. Lametti said, or in what the prime minister said, that caused her to realize she didn't have the confidence of the cabinet any longer and she had to remove herself from cabinet solidarity?" Raitt said. "Because that's what she did and it's a big deal."

NDP MP Nathan Cullen said Wilson-Raybould's testimony will be "pivotal" and the committee probe must expand to call on testimony from officials in the PMO, including Trudeau's chief of staff Katie Telford and his former principal secretary Gerry Butts.

"It's a typical scandal. First they deny anything's here, then they admit the thing happened but the thing's not important. Then one by one the accusations become verified, and we need to hear from the principal actors," he said.

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Brian Cohen

@Barry Lane
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@Barry Lane
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@Barry Lane
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@Jim Payne
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David Amos

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Dave Bear

@Steven Read

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Steven Read

@Dave Bear
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Tom Barry

@Steven Read

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Brent Grywinski

@Tom Barry
Why would anyone in their right mind like Trump?

Randolph Neville

@Steven Read ...It's in their DNA...

Randolph Neville

@Tom Barry ...You mean those alt right alternative facts that keep changing with each passing day...

Tom Barry

@Randolph Neville

I won't put my words in your mouth.

I'm comfortable with my principles.

Dave Bear

@Brent Grywinski

See Barry , there's the thing , its not about liking Trump at all , he's a goof , the point is the hunt to bring the guy down has been none stop since day one , he farts , its a big news article , why ? he hasn't started a war in the middle East , he hasn't sold uranium , he hasn't don't half the world changing botch ups that past presidents have , yet he's hounded relentlessly ... why ? for being a total goof ?

Steven Read

@Tom Barry
Your principles are to trust someone who has made over 8000 false and misleading statements? Someone who mimics the disabled? Someone who promotes violence at his rallies? I could go on and on. Just where were those principles learned?

Tom Barry

@Steven Read

"Your principles are to trust someone who has made over 8000 false and misleading statements?"

I won't put my words in your mouth.

I'm comfortable with my principles.

Mick Loosemore

@Brent Grywinski
I'm sure that any of us do

Tom Barry

@Mikael Maus

Personal insults are a sign of insecurity.

Rick E. Williams

@Dave Bear

Why? Because he may well have been installed by the Russians. Because he is a racist. Because he assaults women. Because he lies to a degree that makes even seasoned politicians blush. Because his policies are populist nonsense . Because he has no idea what he is doing and is totally uninformed on the things he is making decisions about. Because he denies science and facts generally. Because he surrounds himself with crooks. Oh, yes and from the beginning because with 2M fewer votes than his opponent he stole the presidency . Sure somewhere along the line even Trump has to get something right and he probably will but to get back to your observation it is generally better for everyone, even non-Americans (except maybe the Russians, Chinese and Saudis) if the president of the United States of America is not a goof.

Jim LaPalmier

@Tom Barry
"Trump haters do not see the reason in facts"

Trump lovers do not 'see' facts.

David Amos

@Jim LaPalmier True

Sandy Gillis

@Tom Barry
"@Steven Read 

"Your principles are to trust someone who has made over 8000 false and misleading statements?" 

I won't put my words in your mouth. 

I'm comfortable with my principles."

I've gotta ask, what are you trying to say with this post? Are you comfortable with all the false and misleading statements because his actions support your core principles? Or do you not think he makes all of those false and misleading statements?

David Amos

@Sandy Gillis "Are you comfortable with all the false and misleading statements because his actions support your core principles? "

Methinks you should ask yourself that question after you confer with your lawyer as to how answer yourself N'esy Pas?

 
James Holden

It won't only be Donald that will be exposed by Cohen's testimony.

The entire management team of Trump inc. will be implicated.

Stanley Baird

@James Holden no authority client privilege like we have heard so much about in Canada?

James Holden

@Stanley Baird

Doesn't apply in cases of conspiracy to commit a criminal act.

David Amos

@James Holden True

Lon Chaney

Question for Cohen,
Who threatened Stormy and her daughter in the parking lot ?
Who ordered it?....................

Lon Chaney

@Inas Johnson

Journalist killed reporting on Stormy = 0
Journalist killed reporting on Yemen since 2015 = 9
Think about that..........

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David Amos

@Lon Chaney Who murdered Seth Rich?

 
Stan Smith

Lots of distortion and sham diversion tactics by Trump supporters tonight

Bob Baker

@Stan Smith The desperation of the Trump lovers fraternity is palpable.

Jim LaPalmier

@Stan Smith

The Trump Supporters "circle the wagons"' (or for more 'modern' times, "raise the shields") defense is certainly in full emergency implementation mode tonite !

David Amos

@Jim LaPalmier Google David Amos Robert Mueller

 
John Smith

It is funny how the rule of law means nothing in the US and it is fine for the President and Senators to openly threaten a witness scheduled to appear before the congress! You would think it was a banana republic wouldn't you? LMAO

John Hallberg

@John Smith - or the attempted overthrow of a foreign government .

David Amos

@John Smith Whats so funny? Trudeau is assisting Trump with his nonsense against China and Venezuela while he slaps tariffs on us left right and center

 
Naomi Forbes

Cohen looks like a broken man destroyed by a narcissist. Trump has also destroyed America.

Jim Payne

@Naomi Forbes

He's a crook looking for atonement.

Brock Samson

@Naomi Forbes He knew what he was doing when he was doing it. He knew it was illegal and he did it anyway. Which is likely why he kept recordings of all his trump calls. Gotta cover your but

Bob Claxton

@Naomi Forbes How say? America is looking pretty good except for all those other guys.

Brock Samson

@Bob Claxton Except its not looking good. From the healthcare, to the decimated middle class. America is at best a second world country stuck in a plutocracy.

Carol Rodgers

@Naomi Forbes America is destroyed ?? Really ?? When ?? Was it on the News ??? lol

Naomi Forbes

@Carol Rodgers .....it has never been more divided and immoral as in the last 2 yrs.

Carol Rodgers

@Naomi Forbes Which means it is irrevocably destroyed ! ok naomi

The group that felt their candidate was a shoe in and the rightful occupant for the WH have bellowed so loud that the MSM pundits see that as division instead of country wide hissy fit.

immoral ??.because of trump ?? he's forcing the smolletts and griffin's of the world to be immoral ?? Ok then .

Corinne O'Connor

@Bob Claxton

Just read article today re which countries were the most corrupt in the world; under Trump America ranked 14th. Under Obama America was not even on the list. Canada was not the list either.

David Amos

@Naomi Forbes Cohen is playing games

 
Naomi Forbes

Americans have no right criticizing leaders of other nations as being corrupt and immoral when all they have to do is look at their own "leader". Trump is by far the worst President they have ever had.

John Williams

@Naomi Forbes
He still has a lot of distance to go to beat Woodrow Wilson, the guy who nationalized segregation, allowed lynchings, kicked blacks out of the major leagues, and allowed the Germans to take over half the world in WWI.

Carol Rodgers

@Naomi Forbes But Canadians have a right to label the president of another country as the worst they have ever had. Sounds reasonable if one were a hypocrite

David Amos

@Naomi Forbes Are our leaders any better?

 
James Holden

Cohen will tell the truth this week.
His 3 year sentence is forfeit if he lies and Mueller+ the Southern District of NY have the facts.

Trump is burnt.

Rob Scott

@James Holden

which explains his colour

David Amos

@James Holden Methinks it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas/

What Michael Cohen knew: 7 things to keep in mind as he testifies publicly about Trump

Ex-Trump lawyer knows where the 'bodies are buried.' It appears he's ready to show and tell

Matt Kwong· CBC News· Posted: Feb 26, 2019 6:18 PM ET 

Donald Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen, left, is scheduled to testify before three congressional committees this week where it's expected he will provide new insights into his past dealings with the U.S. president. (Eduardo Munoz Alvarez/Brendan Smialowski /Getty Images/AFP)


U.S. President Donald Trump's former personal lawyer Michael Cohen is planning Wednesday to pull back the curtain on his ex-boss's alleged criminal conduct. Now, all Cohen needs to do is convince Americans he's telling the truth.

Cohen, a convicted felon who has already pleaded guilty to lying to Congress, testifies at 10 a.m. ET, with the cameras rolling and expectations running high that he will accuse the president of engaging in criminal activity while in office. It will be his second of three back-to-back meetings on Capitol Hill, and the only hearing that will be broadcast.

Cohen was Trump's personal attorney for years and has worked for the president for more than a decade as his fixer. On Wednesday, Cohen will reportedly discuss Trump's alleged use of racist language, and will testify that the president lied about his net worth to evade taxes.

"Michael Cohen appears to have decided he just wants to totally come clean and be transparent and tell the entire world what he knows, regardless of any tangible benefit he might get from the government," said Greg Brower, former head of the FBI's Office of Congressional Affairs. "That's a huge problem for the president, potentially."

Here are some key considerations as Cohen prepares to testify:

Cohen might have the goods on financial cheating

 

Cohen arrives at the Hart Senate Office Building before testifying to the Senate Intelligence Committee on Capitol Hill on Tuesday in Washington, D.C. He testifies again Wednesday in a public hearing. (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

Cohen knows a lot about Trump and his business dealings throughout the last decade. "He knows where the proverbial bodies are buried," as Brower says.

That puts Cohen in a position to paint a damning portrait of Trump, the private businessman. The Wall Street Journal reports that Cohen "will make public some of Mr. Trump's private financial statements," and tell Congress that Trump inflated or deflated his net worth to dodge taxes.

The House Committee on Oversight and Reform is expected Wednesday to ask Cohen about matters such as potential corrupt practices in contracting for Trump towers overseas, potential violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act or about his knowledge of whether Trump has paid property taxes.

Don't expect big insights on Russia probe

Cohen is one of a few people who can explain the timeline for negotiations to build a Trump Tower Moscow, and whether the president may have directed him to lie to Congress last year when he said the real-estate negotiations ended in January 2016. (Cohen now admits the discussions continued well into Trump's presidential campaign.)

The former Trump lawyer could also be asked about how directive Trump was on making contacts with Russians.

However, Wednesday's televised testimony will reportedly steer clear of U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. That means the topic of the Trump Tower Moscow timeline should be off the table.

Lawmakers will grill Cohen on campaign funds

 

Trump and Cohen in better times, during an election campaign stop at the New Spirit Revival Center church in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, in September 2016. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)

Cohen plans to talk about potential criminal activity relating to hush-money payments he facilitated to the pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels and the former Playboy model Karen McDougal, in order to silence both of them about alleged extramarital affairs with Trump.

Cohen has admitted he broke campaign finance laws.

Federal investigators are also investigating the Trump inaugural fund and whether the 2017 inaugural committee received illegal foreign donations by people from Middle Eastern nations. A ProPublica/WNYC investigation found that the inaugural committee paid more than the going rate for venue rental in the Trump Hotel in Washington, D.C., potentially violating tax law while profiting the president.

"If [Cohen] has got information to give, particularly about the money that flowed into the inauguration, then hearing a detailed description of what happened there from his point of view, and whether that violates any federal election law, would be interesting," Michael Zeldin, a former assistant to Mueller, said in an interview.

Pay attention to dates

Listen on Wednesday for precise dates of when alleged crimes were committed. The calendar will matter to prosecutors, as far as whether the five-year statute of limitations for many of the relevant federal crimes may have run out.

A crime has to be indicted within five years, or it's as if it never happened. Under Department of Justice guidelines, a sitting president cannot be indicted. But Trump was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2017, meaning he could be liable to criminal exposure if he fails to win re-election in 2020.

So it might stand to reason that Trump would have good incentive to run for a second term in 2020 and win in order to avoid possible prosecution. If he can stay in office until 2024, he can outlast the statute of limitations.

All of which is to say what happened between January 2016 and today will be of a lot more interest to prosecutors than what happened before that same time period.

Cohen's credibility on trial

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Mueller's Russia investigation: Sorting out what we know | In-Depth

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Washington reporter Keith Boag takes an in-depth look at the Mueller investigation evidence and what we know so far. Correction: An on-screen graphic in this video indicates James Comey was fired on May 9, 2016. He was, in fact, fired on that date in 2017. 12:35

What good is Cohen's word in a sworn testimony before Congress? He has, after all, pleaded guilty to lying to the House and Senate intelligence committees in 2017, and will serve time for it beginning in May. Whatever Cohen tells legislators Wednesday, then, won't count for much without corroboration.

"It's like this rock 'n' roll song … where the refrain is, 'Can we corroborate? Can we corroborate?'" Zeldin said. "Everything has to be corroborated because as a bald witness — meaning Cohen, alone — he has a credibility problem."

Cohen was sentenced to three years in December. He does not have a co-operation agreement with the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York (SDNY).

William Yeomans, a fellow in law and government at American University, said that while Cohen "undoubtedly has devastating information" about Trump, selling himself as honest will be his biggest challenge as Republicans will try to undercut his credibility.

"A segment of the public will not accept Cohen's testimony, no matter how credible," he said. "Cohen's testimony should help define how large that segment is."

Cohen has much to gain

The prospect of a lighter prison sentence will have important bearing on who Cohen's audience is when he speaks.

So Cohen's target audience is narrow, said former federal prosecutor Julie Grohovsky. He needs to fall back into the good graces of the SDNY, which can file a "Rule 35" motion for him under the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.

The SDNY's office previously recommended a "substantial term of imprisonment" of up to 63 months for Cohen, citing his decision "not to pursue full co-operation." Cohen now has another chance to make things right within one year of his sentencing, and convince prosecutors to request leniency in court.

Legal scholars say Cohen has likely already sought SDNY's blessing before testifying. But there's a possibility prosecutors will learn something new from him on Wednesday.

"If he's bringing forward things in this hearing that are topics prosecutors are interested in, he has a chance of getting this Rule 35 motion and getting a [sentence] reduction," Grohovsky said. "So while he cares what the general public thinks, he cares very much that prosecutors want to talk with him some more."

Brace for theatrics

Trump has already been accused of witness tampering, after he tweeted ominously to "watch" Cohen's father-in-law. Last month, Cohen withdrew his commitment to testify, with his lawyer citing "threats against this family" by the president. On the eve of Cohen's Wednesday testimony, Republican congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida also tweeted a warning, hinting at disclosures about Cohen's "girlfriends" to his wife.

Cohen is expected to testify about the intimidation on Wednesday. He will also reportedly tell lawmakers about alleged racist statements the president has made in his presence, a potential revelation that wouldn't so much have any legal implications as it would further damage Trump's character.

"If Michael Cohen says, 'Yes, I heard the president use the N-word in my presence numerous times, and I have recording after recording of that, and I'm going to share them on the internet for all the world to hear,' well, that's not a crime," Zeldin said. "That's theatre. And people will do with it as they want."

Impugning the president's character isn't really a legal matter, but it is salacious. A number of House progressives on the panel, including Rashida Tlaib and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, will get a chance to grill Cohen before live TV cameras.

Testimony that embarrasses the president is one thing; testimony that suggests criminal liability is quite another, and it will demand corroboration, said Mark Osler, a criminal law scholar and expert on sentencing.

"There's no doubt there's a political element to this whole thing," he said. "One thing that we can certainly hope for is that members of the committee will use this as an opportunity to ask questions as opposed to make speeches because there are legitimate questions that should be asked."

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Matt Kwong is a Washington-based correspondent for CBC News. He previously reported for CBC News as an online journalist in New York and Toronto. You can follow him on Twitter at: @matt_kwong

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Methinks its incredibly ironic that the former integrity commissioner Alexandre Deschênes is in a conflict of interest with me N'esy Pas?


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David Amos

Methinks it incredibly ironic that the former integrity commissioner Alexandre Deschênes is in a conflict of interest with me N'esy Pas?

 
David Amos

Methinks folks should checkout my lawsuit about being illegally barred from legislative properties while running for public office now many years later NB Power used that malicious nonsense to prevent me from being an intervener in EUB Hearings in which the politician I ran against was appointed to sit on the the board Seems that I should sue the Crown again N'esy Pas?

 
Marc LeBlanc

The patronage pipeline.It's been around for decades.

David Amos

@Marc LeBlanc Its as old as peoplekind

 
Richard Cyr

You could have sent an e-mail to Murray Brewster rather than write this. He's your #1 culprit.

The man is on his 3rd or 4th article about the Vets Affairs tax debacle and still hasn't mentioned anyone involved. That's extremely poor journalism.

David Amos

@Richard Cyr Methinks your #1 culprit is Trudeau The Younger At least nobody can deny that his former Attorney General is gonna speak her truth today (Yea Right) while Trump's former White House Counsel yaps it up in Congress before he goes to jail

Truth is stranger than fiction N'esy Pas?

 
Joseph Vacher

Francophone Games

David Amos

@Joseph Vacher NB Power

Rosco holt

@Joseph Vacher
Forestry

 
Rosco holt

It's the way for politicians/ parties to get away we most backroom scams..... er, schemes.

David Amos

@Rosco holt YUP

 
Mac Pitt

NB Government should listen to what Alexandre Deschênes has said, this guy knows what he is talking about.

David Amos

@Mac Pitt Methinks all the politicians know that the lawyers Alexandre Deschêne and the interim integrity commissioner Charles Murray know more than folks think they do. However they are never gonna blow the whistle on their own severe lack of integrity N'esy Pas?

 
kelly sherrard

This province is so out of control. We have gotten so used to gov't offices running poorly that we no longer are surprised when something explodes and the garbage leaks out. We continue to have gov'ts that fail to have a mandate to clean up gov't and get rid of the dead wood that is at ground zero of many issues. if anyone tried to clean it up, people would turn on them because people in gov't work to protect themselves and their friends against being fired. The problem lies with upper management ... it needs to be cleaned out.... a major purge. Bullying is a major factor.

David Amos

@kelly sherrard What can anyone do when apathy rules the day?

 
Rod McLeod

Good call. Too many policies and decisions are set by unelected individuals. The elected people are just the couriers delivering the news to the public and then taking the heat when things don't work out.

David Amos

@Rod McLeod Close but no cigar

New Brunswick's secret conflict regime for unelected officials

No way for public to know if non-elected officials ever in conflict, unless complaint filed in court

Jacques Poitras· CBC News· Posted: Feb 27, 2019 7:45 AM AT

There's no way for the public to know if deputy ministers, Crown corporation CEOs or executive assistants to ministers were ever in conflict, unless a complaint is filed in court. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

New Brunswick's most powerful non-elected government officials are subject to conflict-of-interest rules that are weak, outdated and shrouded in secrecy.

Deputy ministers, Crown corporation CEOs and executive assistants to ministers are required to file conflict declarations--but those documents remain confidential, unlike those filed by MLAs.

That means there's no way for the public to know if any non-elected official was ever in a conflict, unless a complaint is filed in court.

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• Case against stricter MLA conflict law doesn't wash, says just-retired commissioner

The law also includes no penalties for officials who don't file declarations, and isn't even clear about who it covers, according to a 2014 ruling by a Court of Queen's Bench judge who oversaw the act at the time.

And its list of Crown corporations is also out of date, meaning the CEOs of Opportunities New Brunswick, Cannabis NB and Service New Brunswick, among others, are not subject to its requirements.

Amend law, says former integrity commissioner

Former integrity commissioner Alexandre Deschênes said in his final report before his retirement that the government should amend the law.

He said non-elected officials should be under the same regime as MLAs, who report to the commissioner.

"My view is, and I've made that view known for some time, is that system ought to be abandoned as soon as possible," he told CBC News in a recent interview. 

Former integrity commissioner Alexandre Deschênes said non-elected officials should be under the same regime as MLAs. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

 

 

 

"The system just doesn't work."

One of Deschênes's predecessors as conflict commissioner, Patrick Ryan, repeatedly levelled the same criticism during his tenure as commissioner. 

"Alex is absolutely correct," Ryan said in a brief interview. "It bugged me." 

David Ferguson, a retired clerk of the executive council--the top civil service position in the province--called it "bizarre" that there is no penalty for not filing a conflict declaration.

"If you ignore it, you get away scot-free, which seems to be a real problem with the act," he said.

Province reviewing act

Government spokesperson Tyler Campbell said the province is reviewing the act and is looking at all the issues that have been raised. 

"That work is currently underway," he said.

He said some of the Crown corporations not covered by the act have their own conflict policies, but the province will look at having the same rules apply to all of them.

Who knows? Who doesn't know? Who follows it up? No one follows it up, apparently.- David Ferguson, retired clerk of the executive council

Under the Members' Conflict of Interest Act, MLAs file annual disclosure statements to the integrity commissioner, revealing their investments, assets, business interests and loans. An abridged version is made public.

But a separate law, the Conflict of Interest Act, applies to senior non-elected officials. They file their disclosures not to the commissioner, but to a sitting judge designated by the government.
There's no requirement that their declarations become public.

Deschênes says involving a sitting judge compromises the independence of the judiciary because the judge must interact with civil servants and, in some cases, help them prepare blind trusts for investments.

"I have difficulty making it compatible with an independent judiciary," he said.

Judge mum on declarations

The current designated judge, Justice Barbara Baird of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal, did not respond to a request for information on the declarations she has reviewed.

On Jan. 28, CBC News sent Baird a list of questions on how many officials are subject to the act now, how many disclosures she has received from them, how many inquires she has conducted and how many breaches she has found and how many orders she has issued. 

The Court of Appeal of New Brunswick is the highest court in the province and generally sits in Fredericton. (CBC)

 

 

 

As of Tuesday, Baird had not answered or even acknowledged the questions. The law does not require her to release any information to the public.

Ferguson wouldn't say whether the declarations should be public, but he said it's "important at some point that there's something on the record that says, 'here's a list of everyone who filed and these have been done.'

"As opposed to how it's up in the air right now: if someone doesn't file, who knows? Who doesn't know? Who follows it up? No one follows it up, apparently." 

As clerk of the executive council, Ferguson said he depended on the act to deal with potential conflicts among his fellow deputy ministers.

• Integrity commissioner calls for tougher conflict-of-interest law

• Conflict rules for MLAs shouldn't be too restrictive, Serge Rousselle says

"I didn't particularly need to know or want to know what the personal business of one of my colleagues was," he said. "I assumed the conflict of interest declaration had been filed, and any issue that had been addressed by the judge was a private matter." 

Most deputy ministers are career civil servants with no history of business investments, Ferguson said, but there's been a trend in recent years to recruit from the private sector. 

"There perhaps may be more possibilities of a conflict of interest arising because of that.

Deschênes says the designated judge system is so awkward that most judges want to avoid the role.

"I was a judge for more than 30 years and I know as a fact that there's no appetite on the part of the judiciary to perform those tasks," he said.

Judge role problematic

Two Court of Queen's Bench judges who held the position "basically resigned" because they found the legislation and the role problematic, Deschênes said.

One of them, Jean-Paul Ouellette, made his complaints public in a 2014 ruling on a ministerial assistant who violated the act by not filing a new declaration.

Jimmy Bourque, an executive assistant to a Progressive Conservative cabinet minister, was the owner of a company in a blind trust that received almost half a million dollars in government contracts.

Ouellette ruled that Bourque's failure to file a disclosure violated the act, but in his ruling he complained that no one compiles a definitive list of the deputy ministers, Crown CEOs and executive assistants subject to the act.

The law's list of Crown corporations is also out of date, meaning CEOs of newer Crown corporations such as Cannabis NB, aren't subject to its requirements. (Julia Wright / CBC)

 

 

 

"I do not have any information on or list of individuals … who are required to disclose," he wrote. "No one compiles such a list, and there is no process for informing the individuals in question that they have breached the disclosure provisions of the Conflict of Interest Act."

Ferguson agreed that there should be "administrative support" so that the designated judge always has an up-to-date list of who the act applies to.

Ouellette also complained that the act doesn't allow the designated judge to track who is not complying with the law and doesn't include any sanctions--meaning he wasn't able to punish Bourque for the violation. 

"Such is the Act," the judge wrote in his ruling.

The regulation accompanying the act lists eight Crown corporations whose CEOs are subject to the law, including New Brunswick Liquor, NB Power, and the Regional Development Corporation.

Two on the list no longer exist, and 13 other Crown corporations that operate now are not listed in the regulation.

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Methinks its Too Bad So Sad that I have been illegally barred from being an intervener within another EUB hearing about NB Power's proposed Rate Hike N'esy Pas?

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David Amos

"Blaine Higgs's Progressive Conservative government announced it was working on a 'made-in-New Brunswick' treatment for large emitters to avoid federal taxes but so far has not revealed a plan"

Methinks that is because Mr Higgs has no plan I bet he praying the PANB continue their support in order for his budget to beat the confidence vote and that Harper 2.0 beats Trudeau the Younger in October N'esy Pas?

David Amos

"Blaine Higgs's Progressive Conservative government announced it was working on a 'made-in-New Brunswick' treatment for large emitters to avoid federal taxes but so far has not revealed a plan. "

Need I say HMMMM?

David Amos

@David Amos Methinks many folks are wondering how long the PANB will continue their support Mr Higgs N'esy Pas?

David Amos

"NB Power, which is already projecting little profit for itself over the next four years without factoring in carbon taxes, says it is waiting for more information before it plans for the expense, including whether the Blaine Higgs government can work out a deal on carbon pricing with Ottawa to avoid or mitigate the increase."

Yea Right

David Amos

Methinks with lady luck on our side whatever Jody says today may take the wind out Trudeau's sails and his carbon tax plans will fall by the wayside by next January N'esy Pas?

David Amos

Surprise Surprise Surprise

Methinks its Too Bad So Sad that I have been illegally barred from being an intervener within another EUB hearing about NB Power's proposed Rate Hike N'esy Pas?

Jimmy Moore

@David Amos You were banned because all you do David is complain and make trouble, file false legal cases, its to a point you probably aren't even allowed to file cases anymore. As a political candidate i am sorry but you have little to no actual credibility.

David Amos

@Jimmy Moore Methinks whereas you think you know so much about me then I should have the right to ask if you voted for Rob Moore while I was arguing his fellow lawyer Peter MacKay in Federal Court in 2015 N'esy Pas?

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Jay Schuster

Trudeau is working on 2008 information which has been refuted yet he still wants to carry on, if he gets in again we are all going to be in trouble.

Jimmy Moore

@Jay Schuster He won't be getting in again at this rate.

David Amos

@Jimmy Moore Methinks I should not bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?

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David Amos

@Jimmy Moore "He won't be getting in again at this rate."

Methinks you and Mr Higgs are hoping that Harper 2.0 beats Trudeau the Younger in October while I run against their buddy Rob Moore again N'esy Pas?

 
Anne Bérubé

Continue to vote liberal at the next federal election, you deserve him.

David Amos

@Anne Bérubé Of that I have no doubt

 
M.Ann Morwood

I thought the federals initial claim was that all big polluters would be off the hook for carbon tax up to a certain limit. That included the hydro production plants, manufacturing, etc.

Jimmy Moore

@M.Ann Morwood When has Trudeau actually kept a promise or his word to date?

David Amos

@Jimmy Moore Why no ask my political opponent and shadow cabinet member Rob Moore?

 
Bill Mickey

Sorry NB Power users, Canada must serve a greater master, the UN, before you peons.

Richard Riel

@Bill Mickey The maritimes should separate from Ottawa and form one government.

Richard Riel

@Richard Riel One minister and one minister for each provinces and no senators, You will see your taxes go way way down.

David Amos

@Richard Riel Methinks I have been giving Minister Holland quite a headache lately with the questionable actions of NB Power and their liberal appointed buddies within EUB against me N'esy Pas?

 
Greg Vezina

Beware of false green prophet$
http://www.ottawalife.com/article/beware-of-false-green-prophet?set_lang=en

Canada needs honest viable energy and environmental policies based on science and economics, not on political rhetoric, nonscience or nonsense.

Prime Minister Trudeau’s proposed carbon tax is a clear example of this because of the delay in keeping his December 9, 2016, promise to create a matching national clean fuel standard “based on life cycle analysis” billed as “the single biggest element of Canada's national emissions reduction plan”.

There are at least seven major types of pollution caused in the life cycle of the production and utilization of energy: abiotic depletion; acidification; eutrophication; global warming; human toxicity; ozone layer depletion; and terrestrial ecotoxicity.

The Trudeau Liberal government’s proposed carbon tax applies to fossil fuels like coal, oil and bitumen, but exempts other forms of energy including natural gas used for power generation, which is worse over the 20 to 50 year time frame, and likely will so-called renewable fuels such as bio-fuels including those made from food crops, and biomass such as wood.

This applies to other so-called renewable energy sources like wood biomass, shown as not being "carbon neutral" at all, because the immediate harm from releasing the carbon in it and the fifty years or more needed to grow the trees to replace it actually makes it worse.

Taxpayer subsidies, mandatory use laws and exemptions from carbon and life cycle taxes further increase the negative impacts of these pseudoscience based policies.

That’s why the user-pay life cycle clean fuel policy should have been fully formulated and implemented before any other steps were taken.

David Amos

@Greg Vezina "Beware of false green prophet$"

Oh So True

 
Alison Jackson

Whatever happened to critical thinking? Why is it there is always a handful of the same people over and over again who can't seem to be able to grasp the simplest concepts of science.
What's even scarier, is these people vote.

David Amos

@Alison Jackson Whatever happened to critical thinking?

Methinks cognitive dissonance is what the Powers That Be promote and rely on. It appears that their success has caused critical thinking and even common sense have gone the way of the Dodo Bird among most of peoplekind N'esy Pas?

 
Roger Williams

If we take NB Power estimates of increases over the next 5 years, it will amount to 19% regular increase on top of 38% carbon tax increase. So a 57% total increase. Of course, that is taxable at 15% HST, so that is a grand total of 65.5% increase. If that does not make people conserve, then I don't know what will. It took us 5 years to cut our power consumption in half, so it is possible. We have too many trees around our home to implement solar, so we are now at the mercy of these increases Not a pleasant thought.

David Amos

@Roger Williams "Not a pleasant thought."

Methinks that should make the beancounters within NB Power and their KPMG buddies Happy Happy Happy N'esy Pas?

 
Vernon Shein

Keep voting Liberal NB.......................

David Amos

@Vernon Shein Why not consider the Independents next time?

 
SarahRose Werner

In other news: "Scientists turn carbon dioxide back into coal: New technique can efficiently convert CO2 from gas into solid particles of carbon."https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/02/190226112429.htm

David Amos

@SarahRose Werner Imagine that? BTW anyone remember what the forests that were mowed down used to breathe?

David Amos

@SarahRose Werner Geez I wish CBC would quit blocking me

 
Chris Spiers

Here is an idea. Refuse to pay the taxes. Just dont send a cheque. What are the Feds going to do?

SarahRose Werner

@Chris Spiers - Withhold our equalization payments.

SarahRose Werner

@SarahRose Werner - "Total major transfers to New Brunswick for 2019-20 will round to $3,157 million."https://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/2018-12-09/nb-eng.asp

Chris Spiers

@SarahRose Werner

Well maybe learn to stand on your own 2 feet in NB, instead of money from other parts of the country.

Maybe NB should stop giving the Irvings tax breaks.

David Amos

@Chris Spiers "Here is an idea. Refuse to pay the taxes. Just dont send a cheque. What are the Feds going to do?"

Methinks Mr Higgs knows why I don't pay income taxes because the federal liberals deleted my SIN many moons ago Truth is stranger that fiction N'esy Pas?

SarahRose Werner

I agree that we should stop giving the Irving's tax breaks. But are we giving them $18 million worth of tax breaks?

David Amos

@SarahRose Werner Go Figure

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-first-full-rate-hearing-gets-questions-about-big-paper-mills-1.3114844

 
Chris Spiers

Wealth transferring is all the tax is.

Rich get richer, the poor get more, and the Middle class as per normal bare the brunt

No Libs come Oct 2019

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David Amos 

 @Chris Spiers Methinks the Irving Clan don't pay much for taxes but the PCs made certain that they get big cheques from NB Power N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-first-full-rate-hearing-gets-questions-about-big-paper-mills-1.3114844

"Hickey registered to participate as a concerned citizen and was given wide latitude by EUB Chairman Ray Gorman to ask NB Power any questions he had, with the same standing as the corporate lawyer for Enbridge who went before him and the corporate lawyer for JD Irving who came after.

Hickey made the most of his chance.

I think the people of this province deserve to know.
- Gregory Hickey

He was especially curious about NB Power's Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program which was unveiled by the Alward government in 2011."

David Amos

@Chris Spiers Too bad so sad that you could not read my reply

David Amos

@Chris Spiers Methinks I should be permitted to say that folks should be curious about NB Power's Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program which was unveiled by the Alward government in 2011 N'esy Pas?

SarahRose Werner

The feds are threatening to tax NB Power $18M. The feds also instituted climate action incentive payments. All you have to do to get yours is to file a 2018 tax return. There is no income phase out Based on the 2016 census figures, I'm calculating that NBers will be able to claim *at least* $65M. Even allowing for continuing population decline, we ought to get at least $60M. 60 > 18. Thank you, PM Trudeau.

David Amos

@SarahRose Werner Methinks Mr Trudeau has a far bigger concern than his carbon tax plan with buddy Jody spouting off today N'esy Pas?

daryl doucette

@David Amos cant wait to hear what she says

NB Power could face $18M carbon tax bill as Ottawa toughens approach

Bill would be six times higher in 2020 than 2019's bill, which the utility hadn't budgeted for

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Feb 26, 2019 4:14 PM AT

NB Power could face a significantly higher tax bill if the federal government takes a harsher approach to generating plants that burn coal or petroleum coke. (Michael Heenan/CBC)

Tougher federal treatment of generating stations that burn coal and petroleum coke, quietly being proposed for next January, could mean an $18 million carbon tax bill for NB Power in 2020 — up to six times more than it's paying this year.

It's an amount the utility has not budgeted for and could require additional rate increases to finance.
NB Power, which is already projecting little profit for itself over the next four years without factoring in carbon taxes, says it is waiting for more information before it plans for the expense, including whether the Blaine Higgs government can work out a deal on carbon pricing with Ottawa to avoid or mitigate the increase.

• Higgs leaves meeting with Trudeau 'disappointed' in progress on carbon tax

• Ottawa rejects Higgs's request to delay carbon plan for industry

• Higgs asks feds to back off regulations for industrial emitters

"The current plan does not have anything meaningful in there for that," NB Power chairman Ed Barrett told New Brunswick MLAs earlier this month about how the utility plans to deal with the cost of its greenhouse gas emissions.

"It's uncertain to us the posture that the shareholder [Higgs government] is going to take with respect to carbon tax in general. When they know, we'd sure like to know."

Utility expected low tax bill

Despite being the largest greenhouse gas producer in Atlantic Canada, NB Power's federal carbon tax bill for 2019 is expected to be low — about $3 million — thanks to generous but controversial credits offered to coal and petroleum coke-fired generating stations, like NB Power's plant in Belledune.

According to the federal Department of Environment and Climate Change, Belledune emits 838 tonnes of greenhouse gases for every gigawatt hour, equal to one million kilowatt hours, of electricity it produces.

Under currently proposed rules for 2019 carbon taxes on plants fuelled by coal or petroleum coke are exempt from paying tax on the first 800 tonnes of emissions per gigawatt hour of electricity they produce — up to 95 per cent of the emissions in Belledune's case.

Belledune emits 838 tonnes of greenhouse gases for every gigawatt hour, equal to one million kilowatt hours, of electricity it produces. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

That favourable treatment caused controversy in Parliament and elsewhere when first reported in October, and in December the federal government proposed revised and much tougher treatment for power plants fired by coal or petroleum coke. The change would start next January, after this fall's federal election.

The new plan is to exempt only the first 650 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions per gigawatt hour of electricity produced in 2020 and tighten the exemption every year until it reaches 370 tonnes in 2030.

​Belledune produces between 3,000 and 3,600 gigawatt hours of electricity per year and in 2020 will have to pay tax on an extra 500,000 tonnes of emissions at the rate of $30 per tonne.

That will increase NB Power's carbon tax bill 500 per cent, from about $3 million in 2019 to $18 million in 2020, if production levels at Belledune are not cut.

Utility struggling financially

NB Power has applied for an average 2.5 per cent rate increase for April 1, including a 2.9 per cent increase on residential customers.

Its application noted the amounts include no provision to deal with carbon costs as it waits for the federal government to finalize its proposed treatment of industry and for the province to announce any possible alternative that will be acceptable to Ottawa.

"While the federal government has currently rejected the government of New Brunswick's carbon pricing plan, the government of New Brunswick continues to develop a carbon pricing plan that  would meet federal guidelines," says the utility's application.

"Additional uncertainty around carbon pricing  exists due to the lack of published final regulations. These issues need to be fully understood to budget any carbon expense. As such, NB Power has not included a carbon cost in the budget."

NB Power is already in a financial bind and is projecting low profitability and a $108 million increase in its debt over the next four years, without any money set aside to pay carbon costs.

Blaine Higgs's Progressive Conservative government announced it was working on a 'made-in-New Brunswick' treatment for large emitters to avoid federal taxes but so far has not revealed a plan. (CBC)

Provinces that develop an alternative carbon pricing plan acceptable to Ottawa can escape federal taxes but so far, New Brunswick proposals have failed to win federal support.

The province has joined a court challenge to the federal program, and in December announced it was working on a "made-in-New Brunswick" treatment for large emitters to avoid federal taxes. So far, that plan has not been revealed or accepted.

Ottawa is still finalizing carbon tax exemption levels for industry, which are expected mid-year. Nevertheless, carbon taxes on industrial emitters took effect in the province on Jan. 1 at a rate of $20 per tonne on non exempt emissions.

That amount grows by $10 per tonne every Jan. 1, until reaching $50 per tonne in 2022.

About the Author

 

Robert Jones

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 

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Moncton wants integrity commissioner to police council conduct

February 27, 2019, 11:01 am

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos

Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others

Methinks folks should as who would check the work of the proposed integrity commissioner N'esy Pas?

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/moncton-wants-integrity-commissioner-to.html


#nbpoli#cdnpoli


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-integrity-commissoner-council-conduct-1.5033669

Moncton wants integrity commissioner to police council conduct

Role would assess, investigate complaints from public, staff and fellow councillors

Shane Magee· CBC News· Posted: Feb 27, 2019 5:00 AM AT 

An integrity commissioner would investigate allegations from the public, city staff and council members of breaches of the city council code of conduct. (Shane Magee/CBC)

The City of Moncton is considering creating an integrity commissioner position tasked with probing allegations of improper behaviour by city councillors.

The role would be a third-party investigator for complaints from the public, city staff or fellow councillors that allege violations of council's code of conduct.

Councillors at a committee meeting Monday gave preliminary approval for staff to issue a request for proposals. The document calls for a private contractor that would be kept on retainer to use when needed. It still requires council approval.

The commissioner would be tasked with assessing allegations, investigating and recommending corrective measures or penalties.

"I think it's important that, in the event that someone crosses some particular line in a serious way, [that person] has an opportunity to make their case or complaint and would have a fair and impartial arbiter to mediate any particular issue," Coun. Blair Lawrence said in an interview.

Nick Robichaud, Moncton's general manager of legal and legislative services, said the commissioner position may be the first at the municipal level in the Maritimes. (Shane Magee/CBC)

The concept for an integrity commissioner role arose as city staff proposed a revised council code of conduct in December.

​Nick Robichaud, Moncton's general manager of legal and legislative services, said as part of developing the code, staff examined similar rules elsewhere in the country. That review found a trend toward using a third-party investigator, he said.

• Councillor seeks criminal record checks for colleagues, better financial disclosure

A staff report to council states legislation requires use of an integrity commissioner in Ontario.

"As far as I know, I think we'd be one of the first in the Maritimes" to have such a position, Robichaud said Tuesday.

Councillors Brian Hicks and Bryan Butler voted against the motion at the committee meeting. Butler said the position would only make recommendations on punishment.

"It still goes back to city council, or would have to go back to city council, to decide what the punishment is," Butler said. "So it's no different than what we're doing now. I've been here three years in May and I don't think there's been a time when we need an integrity commissioner."

Punishments for violating the code range from public reprimand, an apology, removal from a committee or suspension of a salary for a certain amount of time.

It's not clear yet how much such a role could cost. No amount for the position was set aside in the city's 2019 budget. If approved, it would be funded through a contingency budget line.

Unclear what will be public

The commissioner would be required to file annual reports to city council with a summary of all investigations and recommendations. It's not clear how much from the investigations or recommendations will be made public.

Lawrence said that would depend on the circumstances of the case.

"I expect there might be situations where people would agree that it doesn't need to become public, that the resolution is there," he said.

If the issue is more serious and made public, Lawrence said it would ultimately be up to voters to decide whether to re-elect a council member.

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John Valcourt

Why does this sound laughable. Integrity and politics.

David Amos

@John Valcourt Welcome to the Circus

  
David Amos

Who would check the work of the proposed integrity commissioner???

Greg Clouston

@David Amos Why would you need someone to watch the fox as it guards the hen house?

David Amos

@Greg Clouston Methinks fox pelts are going for a premium price these days Somebody might as well cash in on the corruption N'esy Pas?

  
Stephanie Tanner

I nominate my friend Mike Tessier, whom was wrongfully attacked by a police dog while at his own storage locker while a break in was occuring on site. https://www.919thebend.ca/2019/02/22/cap-pele-man-charged-in-moncton-break-enter/

David Amos

@Stephanie Tanner I will second it

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Wilson-Raybould says she faced pressure, 'veiled threats' on SNC-Lavalin; Scheer calls on PM to resign

February 28, 2019, 6:05 am

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Methinks the lawyer lady is trying to protect her butt from litigation while attempting to become a big wheel within the Liberal Party However she forgot about my lawsuit N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/wilson-raybould-says-she-faced-pressure.html


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wilson-raybould-testifies-justice-committee-1.5035219

Wilson-Raybould says she faced pressure, 'veiled threats' on SNC-Lavalin; Scheer calls on PM to resign

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Derek Hartley

Boomers Suck

Guy Pritchie

@Derek Hartley edit that to say anyone who still votes for trudeau

Derek Hartley

@Guy Pritchie lol you cute Guy

Derek Hartley

@Guy Pritchie Can't edit :(

David Amos

@Derek Hartley Now play nice kid I resemble that remark

 Wendy Wicks

Justin is our AOC. What kind of government runs on a Disney platform and then expects after almost 4 years of his "drama" he would be credible. This is just icing on the cake. I hope it chokes him.

David Amos

@Wendy Wicks Please check my work

 
David Amos
Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No.T-1557-15" in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harper's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to info found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015

Everybody knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?








 
David Amos

Methinks folks should try thinking outside of the box sometime and consider the Independent candidates if they are lucky enough to have any on their ballot this October N'esy Pas?

Chris Harris

Meanwhile, a gaggle of journalists are scratching their heads trying to write op eds is support of Trudeau, at Katie Telford's command.

Wendy Wicks

@Chris Harris

CBC has plenty that will do it.

David Amos

@Wendy Wicks YUP

Brian Land

Andrew Scheer is ridiculous. I have voted for all parties but will not vote for a conservative government lead by Andrew Scheer. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh made more sense in his response and Scheer thinks that Canada is going to simply hand him the Prime Ministers seat. His desperate comments swing my vote back to Liberal or NDP.

Peter Bolivar

@Brian Land
One can refuse a ballot as a protest against bad options we are being given.

Denis Fis

@Peter Bolivar: I agree, but I wish there was a place on the ballot saying you refuse all candidates.

Peter Bolivar

@Denis Fis
If you refuse a ballot, it gets registers as such, indicating that you refused to vote for anyone.

That is not the same as spoiling a ballot. Spoiling a ballot can mean the same, or that someone didn't know how to vote and selected two people, or couldn't figure out how to mark only within the box, etc.

Refusing a ballot does exactly what I suggested here - refuse all candidates.

If someone doesn't have a party they support, one has to decide if strategic voting to avoid a party they dislike the most from getting power, or telling all the parties one thinks they all suck is more important.

Guy Pritchie

@Brian Land Um, NDP is as corrupt as they come. Please dont be that silly. Andrea Horwath used taxpayer money to fund her wardrobe. Please note she spent 60k on her clothes and shoes from high end shops in toronto. Look it up and dig for it. She was exposed. She classified it as office supplies and spent more than most canadians make in a year on frivolous shoes and clothes. That is not who I want in charge of my money.

Wendy Wicks

@Brian Land

Because the Liberals made sense in the last 4 or 5 years? Unbelievable.

David Amos

@Wendy Wicks I wholeheartedly agree

 
Jeffery Kim

Mrs. Jody is behaving as a lawyer and not a politician and she should not be in politics at all. PM Justin Trudeau is behaving as a politician which this is the normal behaviour. PM Justin Trudeau represents/protects his constituents and his country. In SNC-Lavalin case, PM Trudeau and his gov. are trying to protect jobs in Canada and nothing more. This case must be judged carefully because it can break up the unity of Canada between French Quebec (where SNC-Lavalin based) and the rest of English provinces. Quebec premier has already warned us on this case.

Nick Salva

@Jeffery Kim She was acting as the government's lawyer she had no choice but follow the law, as in the DPA.

Wendy Wicks

@Jeffery Kim

You omitted the part about obstrution of Justice though which is a crime in itself.

Robert McMahon

@Jeffery Kim
I cant believe the garbage that some people are posting here.
RUBBISH RUBBISH, sounds so sopisticated , but it is still first class RUBBISH.
But what has all this got to do with the price of bananas???

David Amos

@Wendy Wicks "You omitted the part about obstrution of Justice though which is a crime in itself."

Oh So True

Robert McMahon

Jody Wilson- Raybould is 100% believable, I am sorry to say Mr Trudeau is not.
The old saying is true in this case "Where there is smoke there is usually fire".
I believe this is the beginning of the end for the Trudeau Liberals, I do not understand how anyone in would consider voting for the Liberals after sooooooo many debaucles in the past while.
The PM should do the only honorable thing and resign .
Jody Wilson-Raybould should run for leader of the Liberal Party, then and only then will there be someone at the helm of a sinking ship that might, just might guide the ship away from the rocks.
As I heard someone on the radio yesterday state all this sounds like a version Canada"s "HOUSE OF CARDS". A house built on sand will not stand.

Wendy Wicks

@Robert McMahon

Trudeau is A-OK with a finance minister that did not declare all his properties. We know he's just a con-man in a suit.

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David Amos

@Wendy Wicks YUP

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David Amos
Trust that Gerald Butts, Jagmeet Singh, Andrew Scheer, Maxime Bernier, Elizabeth May and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that it irritated me big time when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?

Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" before she speaks her truth tomorrow N'esy Pas?

Bill Luchak

@David Amos Gerald Butts resigned, and hid.

David Amos

@Bill Luchak Google David Amos Gerald Butts to see why

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David Green

At the end of the day, I'd still prefer– and will vote for– a meddling Trudeau over an 'honest' Scheer. He can attempt to distance himself all he wants from Harper, but they're still the same gang of intolerant, racist, anti-feminist, anti-native, anti-Maritimes, Conservative Christian bigots they were under Harper.

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David Amos

@David Green Methinks folks should try thinking outside of the box sometime and consider the Independent candidates N'esy Pas?

David Green

Corruption and bribes are simply the way of doing business in Quebec, it always has been. Ask anyone who lives there. That's why the inquiry a couple of years ago about Mob influence in the provincial and municipal governments was such a comedy fest...as though this was news to anybody.

Bob Ols

@David Green

But why are we being asked to accept it? The only way to change bad behaviour is to punish it.

Robert McMahon

@David Green
It is NEVER right to do wrong in order to do a "so called" right.
Just because bad people do bad things does not mean we should all join them.
Jody Wilson-Raybould is a refreshing breeze blowing across this land, maybe it will get rid of the foul smell eminating from a certain segment of our society.

David Amos

@David Green "That's why the inquiry a couple of years ago about Mob influence in the provincial and municipal governments was such a comedy"

Methinks you and many other folks may enjoy Googling "David Amos wiretap" N'esy Pas?

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David Amos

@David Green "At the end of the day, I'd still prefer– and will vote for– a meddling Trudeau over an 'honest' Scheer. He can attempt to distance himself all he wants from Harper, but they're still the same gang of intolerant, racist, anti-feminist, anti-native, anti-Maritimes, Conservative Christian bigots they were under Harper."

Methinks folks should try thinking outside of the box sometime and consider the Independent candidates N'esy Pas?

David Green

@Robert McMahon Oh, no question Trudeau was wrong to do what he did, and I completely agree with your opinion of JRT. I'm just saying despite that I'll still take Trudeau and the Liberals over Scheer and the Conservatives regardless.

 
Peter Bota

Tick tock tick tock clocks counting down till the demise of the Trudeau regime.

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David Amos

@Troy Mann "Your clock must be huge to count down to 2023"

Methinks you should in your clock back and review my replies to you for the last month or so N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Troy Mann "The rest is all about Jody being irritated, same irritation that has lead her to having 4 chief of staffs in less than 3 years..."

Methinks everybody knows how irritated I was when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench in Federal Court right after I argued their minions again in Fredericton on May 24th, 2018 N'esy Pas?

Karen King

@Troy Mann

agreed a disgruntled employee vs employer all tried in public opinion...who to believe...the head of the privy council or Jody....I think the truth is somewhere in the middle....Bottom line no laws were broken, nor was she asked to break any laws so Sheer is going overboard and not helping the situation...his reaction to all of this does not bode well for the cons either....

Edward (E) Merij

"... corporation faced a 10-year ban on bidding on government ..."
Faced?
No, they still face it.
The Libya bribery charges still stand (since SNC did NOT get the DPA, and Lametti would look pretty bad if he tried to push for it now).
The prosecution of Lavalin's top official must now go ahead.

David Amos

@Troy Mann Methinks the cat has your tongue as usual N'esy Pas?

 
James Millican

Who can believe a word Trudeau says? He has lost all credibility.

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Jimmy Moore

@Troy Mann 9000 Jobs in Quebec don't matter if it means we give up rule of law, and don't say no laws were broken, that's JWR's personal opinion, there could be a lot more that comes to light and could involve criminal investigation. The Liberals are done and so is Trudeau, even their own base has abandoned them.

David Amos

@Troy Mann "Disagree all you want but you know I am stating fact"

Methinks you an stroll own to Federal Court in Fredericton an ask for my file in order to verify all the facts that I have been telling you for quite some time N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Jimmy Moore "9000 Jobs in Quebec don't matter if it means we give up rule of law, and don't say no laws were broken, that's JWR's personal opinion"

Methinks your replies to me yesterday easily prove that is your personal opinion too N'esy Pas?

 
Daryl McBride

Who to believe?

Trudeau the first PM ever to break ethics law or the MP who got thrown under the bus.

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Jimmy Moore

@Troy Mann SNC-Lavalin jobs don't matter at all if it means Canadians have to give up the rule of law. The law is clear, economic factors including jobs being lost are not a consideration in a DPA for this circumstance. A DPA would technically be illegal under the guidelines, Besides why are 9000 jobs in Quebec worth more than the 250 000 we have seen lost over the oil sands. Here's the Reality, SNC will likely be convicted and will not be eligible for any government contract for at least ten years, and thats the minimum of what they deserve for over 130 million dollars in bribes to Lybian Officials

David Amos

@Jimmy Moore "You were banned because all you do David is complain and make trouble, file false legal cases, its to a point you probably aren't even allowed to file cases anymore. As a political candidate i am sorry but you have little to no actual credibility."

Methinks you and Mr Mann are well aware that I have been arguing Jody Wilson-Raybould in Federal Court the instant Trudeau appointed her to be the Attorney General N'esy Pas?

 
Henry Wysmulek

The latest public opinion poll from the non-profit Angus Reid Institute shows;

Conservatives 38%
liberals 31%
NDP 14%

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Jimmy Moore

@Shawn McShane yup over 100k to liberals illegally

David Amos

@Jimmy Moore "yup over 100k to liberals illegally"

Methinks you and Mr McShane should finally read Federal Court File No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas?

 
Daryl McBride

Trudeau's credibility has taken a big hit and it is being reflected in the polls. Take Nanos, the Liberal party donor out of the picture and it really looks bad for Trudeau.

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Arthur Gill

@Danny Tanker
"Look at the date, right smack in the middle of the whole affair."

You might want to look a little deeper into that Nanos poll which as you indicated is a 4 week rolling average.
In the previous 4 weeks the liberals averaged 38% so to drop to 36% in one week means that last week the liberal support dropped to 30% in that week.
Do the math.

David Amos

@Daryl McBride "Trudeau's credibility has taken a big hit"

Methinks that is an understatement N'esy Pas?

 
Ken Adams

If Gerald did nothing wrong, then why the resignation?

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David Amos

@Ken Adams "If Gerald did nothing wrong, then why the resignation?"

Methinks everybody has been wondering about that simple fact N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Tracy Mann "GB is a sly one a knows when to abandon a sinking ship"

Methinks the same can be said of you N'esy Pas?.

Carl Street

Trudeau will do anything to stay in power, not to the betterment of Canadians, but to line the pockets of Liberals

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Ross Culbert

@David Semple Let's see how long this one lasts before someone flags a perfectly valid, non racist post. Keep increasing immigration levels at the behest of corporations and this is what you get. Flat wages.
Oh, yeah, it's racist to discuss this now.

David Amos

@Troy Mann "Lowest unemployment rate in 40 years so apparently all canadians are liberals"

Speak for yourself

 
Mike Scott

Unprecedented step??? I guess except for the time Martin did it and Harper did it. This PM is so full of it.

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Rick Poulter

@Mike Scott
If this was under Harper's regime, the Minister of Justice would have expected to be told what exactly to do with SNC-Lavalin and have it done immediately.

David Amos

@Ewan Cameron "to elaborate Troy? What was the crime? Which court was he tried and convicted in, and when? What was the sentence?"

Remember Federal Court File no T-1557-15 ??? If not ask Mr Mann to check out the hard copy in the docket of the court in his town

 
gary Shortell

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Doug Allan

@steve wilson
Unprecedented just means no other PM has tried to compromise their Attorney General and been forced to partially waive attorney client privilege.

David Amos

@gary Shortell "This restricted testimony today will be the liberal version of transparency."

If you wish to know more simply Google two names Jody Wilson-Raybould and David Amos

 
Cameron Kernick

Yes everybody else can make statements about her demotion and resignation except her. Got it Mr. PM we know what you are scared of.

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Ross Culbert

@Awistoyus Nahasthay Oh man, the Liberals are going to destroyed in October. So sad.

David Amos

@Awistoyus Nahasthay "Why is that so hard to comprehend?"

Methinks the lawyer lady is trying to protect her butt from litigation while attempting to become a big wheel within the Liberal Party However she forgot about my lawsuit N'esy Pas?

Wilson-Raybould says she faced pressure, 'veiled threats' on SNC-Lavalin; Scheer calls on PM to resign

Conservative leader says powerful politicans should not try to overrule court proceedings

Kathleen Harris· CBC News· Posted: Feb 27, 2019 11:36 AM ET

Jody Wilson-Raybould appears at the House of Commons Justice Committee on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on Wednesday, Feb. 27, 2019. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

Jody Wilson-Raybould says she faced intense political pressure and veiled threats related to the SNC-Lavalin affair, and was warned directly by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau about the negative consequences if the company faced prosecution.

It was a day of high political drama, as the former justice minister and attorney general accused top Liberal government officials of inappropriate, excessive political interference in an independent criminal prosecution, and the opposition parties called for Trudeau's resignation and a public inquiry into the scandal.

Testifying at the Commons justice committee Wednesday, Wilson-Raybould said she was contacted by 11 officials in the Prime Minister's Office, the Privy Council Office and Finance Minister Bill Morneau's office while she was justice minister and attorney general about the Quebec-based engineering and construction company. SNC-Lavalin was facing corruption charges for contracts in Libya and was lobbying for a remediation agreement as an alternative to criminal prosecution.

"For a period of four months from September to December 2018, I experienced a consistent and sustained effort by many people within the government to seek to politically interfere in the exercise of prosecutorial discretion in my role as the attorney general of Canada in an inappropriate effort to secure a Deferred Prosecution Agreement (DPA) with SNC-Lavalin."
Wilson-Raybould said she was "hounded" by various officials through phone calls, meetings and text messages.

'Veiled threats'

"Within these conversations there were express statements regarding the necessity of interfering in the SNC-Lavalin matter, the potential of consequences, and veiled threats if a DPA was not made available to SNC-Lavalin," she said.

CBC News

Jody Wilson-Raybould says she experienced 'sustained pressure' on SNC Lavalin

 "I experienced a consistent and sustained effort by many people within the gov't to seek to politically interfere in the exercise of prosecutorial discretion..." 1

The corporation faced a 10-year ban on bidding on government contracts if convicted of the criminal charges of bribery.

Wilson-Raybould chronicled a series of meetings, including one with Trudeau and Privy Council clerk Michael Wernick on Sept. 17, 2018. She told him that she had made a decision not to overturn the decision from the director of the Public Prosecution Service Kathleen Roussel to proceed with criminal prosecution against SNC-Lavalin.

• Read Jody Wilson-Raybould's opening statement on the SNC-Lavalin affair

• Key moments from Jody Wilson-Raybould's SNC-Lavalin testimony

• Wilson-Raybould says PMO restricting her ability to 'speak freely' at justice committee

The prime minister cited potential job losses and the possible move by the company, and asked her to "help out." The clerk then made the case for a DPA and reminded her that there was an election coming in Quebec.

"At that point, the prime minister jumped in, stressing that there is an election in Quebec, and that 'I am an MP in Quebec, the MP for Papineau,'" she recounted. 'I was quite taken aback."

PM needed a 'solution'

At that point, Wilson-Raybould said, she posed a direct question to Trudeau while looking him straight in the eye, asking if he was politically interfering with her role and her decision as the attorney general.

"I would strongly advise against it," she told the committee she warned Trudeau, who responded, "No, no, no, we just need to find a solution."

Politics News

Scheer and Singh on Wilson-Raybould's testimony

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Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh speech to reporters after Jody Wilson Raybould's testimony 0:48

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said the RCMP must open an investigation, and he called on Trudeau to resign as prime minister for his role in undermining the administration of justice and trying to overturn an independent decision by the attorney general. He said the prime minister has lost his moral authority to govern.

"I was sickened and appalled by [Wilson-Raybould's] story of inappropriate and, frankly, borderline illegal pressure brought to bear on her by the highest levels of Justin Trudeau's government," he said.

• 'Pay close heed' to words of top bureaucrat on SNC-Lavalin affair, Trudeau says

Trudeau refuted Wilson-Raybould's account and dismissed the call for him to step down.

"I strongly maintain, as I have from the beginning, that I and my staff always acted appropriately and professionally," he said during an event in Montreal late Wednesday. "And therefore I completely disagree with the characterization of the former attorney general about these events."

Still in caucus — for now

Trudeau said it's premature to determine Wilson-Raybould's status in the Liberal caucus.

"I haven't yet had the opportunity to review her entire testimony. I will do that before making any further decision," he said.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said Trudeau may well have to resign, but right now he's pressing to get to the bottom of the scandal.

"At this point, Canadians demand some answers that they have, and the only way to get to the bottom of this is a public inquiry that would have the independence to assess the truth," he said.
Singh called Wednesday's testimony "explosive" and "incredibly damaging."

Wilson-Raybould, who is still in the Liberal caucus, testified for nearly four hours as the key witness for the Commons justice committee in a packed room on Parliament Hill. In an unusual reversal of roles, opposition Conservative and NDP MPs praised the Liberal MP for speaking truthfully and having the courage to speak out while she was asked pointed and at times uncomfortable questions from her fellow Liberal MPs.

Politics News

Trudeau on Wilson-Raybould's testimony

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke to reporters in Montreal after Wilson-Raybould's testimony 0:57

Wilson-Raybould recounted an Oct. 26, 2018, conversation between her chief of staff Jessica Prince and PMO adviser Mathieu Bouchard, who was still pressing the option of an alternative to prosecution for SNC-Lavalin and suggesting an external legal opinion.

She told the committee that Prince told Bouchard this would be perceived as interference and the attorney general questioning Roussel's decision.

"Mathieu said that if — six months from the election — SNC announces they are moving their headquarters out of Canada, that is bad. He said, 'We can have the best policy in the world, but we need to be re-elected,'" Wilson-Raybould testified.

On Dec. 5, 2018, she met with Gerry Butts, the prime minister's then-principal secretary, to discuss issues including SNC-Lavalin and the "barrage" of people hounding her and her staff.

'We need a solution'

"Towards the end of the meeting I raised how I needed everyone to stop talking to me about SNC as I had made up my mind and the engagements were inappropriate. Gerry then took over the conversation and said how we need a solution on the SNC stuff — he said I needed to find a solution," she said.

Wilson-Raybould said the pressure escalated later that month with contacts from PMO officials. Butts and Trudeau's chief of staff Katie Telford "summoned" Prince to a Dec. 18 meeting, saying the situation was getting worse and that they felt she wasn't doing anything about it.

According to Wilson-Raybould's testimony, Telford suggested they could line up people to write op-eds to say what she was doing was "proper."

The next day, Wilson-Raybould met with Wernick. She said the clerk conveyed that the prime minister was "quite determined, quite firm," and wanted to know why the DPA route wasn't being pursued.

"He said, 'I think he is gonna find a way to get it done one way or another. So he is in that kinda mood and I wanted you to be aware of that,'" Wilson-Raybould testified.

Wernick testified last week that he warned Wilson-Raybould about the economic "consequences" of prosecuting SNC-Lavalin, including heavy job losses, but insisted there was never any "inappropriate pressure" put on her to override the prosecution service's decision. The clerk also told her that the prime minister and others in the government were "anxious" about the impact of prosecution.

Confidence in PM?

Repeatedly asked by Liberal MPs why she would have remained in cabinet when she felt inappropriate pressure, Wilson-Raybould explained that she took the prime minister at his word, retained confidence in him, and decided to stay at the cabinet table as veterans affairs minister after the shuffle Jan. 14.

She said she had "serious concerns" that the government would enter into a DPA if she were no longer attorney general, and said she would have quit if that happened.
Wilson-Raybould offered few details on why she ultimately left.

"I resigned from cabinet because I did not have confidence to sit around the cabinet table, that's why I resigned," she said.

She declined to explain why she quit cabinet or disclose details of her conversations with the prime minister prior to her resignation. But she described experiencing "heightened anxiety" as she waited for the "other shoe to drop."

A week before the cabinet shuffle, she said she received a call from Trudeau advising her she was being moved from the justice portfolio.

"I will not go into details of this call, or subsequent communications about the shuffle, but I will say that I stated I believed the reason was because of the SNC matter. They denied this to be the case."

Asked if she still has confidence in the prime minister, Wilson-Raybould said the question was not relevant to the hearings.

CBC News

Wilson-Raybould says PM said 'I am an MP in Quebec.'

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"Are you politically interfering with my role as the attorney general," Wilson-Raybould says she asked Trudeau. "I would strongly advise against it." 1:15

NDP MP Nathan Cullen asked if it is illegal to exert pressure on an attorney general to offer a "special plea" to a company for political reasons.

"In my opinion, it's not illegal. It is very inappropriate depending on the context of the comments made, the nature of the pressure, the specific issues that are raised," she said. "It is incredibly inappropriate and is an attempt to compromise, or to impose upon an independent attorney general."

CBC News

Wilson-Raybould on 'what is not appropriate'

 “What is not appropriate is pressing the attorney general on matters that she or he cannot take into account such as partisan political considerations …” 1:10

Earlier Wednesday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau insisted that Wilson-Raybould could "speak fully" about the SNC-Lavalin affair, contrary to the claim by Wilson-Raybould that she was constrained despite a confidentiality waiver from the Liberal government.

Wilson-Raybould wrote to the committee chair, Liberal MP Anthony Housefather, late Tuesday to say the parameters outlined in Monday's waiver would not allow her to speak freely on issues related to her resignation from cabinet or her time as veterans affairs minister.

• Trudeau government clears Wilson-Raybould to give details to Commons committee on SNC-Lavalin

• Top civil servant denies 'inappropriate' pressure against Wilson-Raybould in SNC-Lavalin case

• Analysis
  What's at stake for RCMP, prosecutors in the SNC-Lavalin case

About the Author

Kathleen Harris

Senior Writer

Kathleen Harris is a senior writer in the CBC's Parliament Hill bureau. She covers politics, immigration, justice and corrections. Follow her on Twitter @ottawareporter

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Car insurance rate hikes hitting 25% for some New Brunswick drivers

February 28, 2019, 7:44 am

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
I wonder if Michael Hynes recalls the email I sent him September 21, 2015 Methinks I should give him a call N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/auto-insurance-new-brunswick-1.5036346

Car insurance rate hikes hitting 25% for some New Brunswick drivers

121 Comments

 

David Amos

Methinks Michael Hynes, Marie-Claude Doucet, her Vice-Chair Brad Woodside, Wawanesa and the Insurance Bureau of Canada should not deny that New Brunswick is a "No Fault" jurisdiction Hence we should not be compelled to buy Insurance just like the State of New Hampshire N'esy Pas?

Pamela Thompson Caldwell

@David Amos NB does not have no fault insurance.

David Amos

@Pamela Thompson Caldwell So you say

Ed Munn

@Pamela Thompson Caldwell
Because someone is always responsible.

 
David Lutz

There were soft tissue injury caps put in place to curb these high cost. Now we can't sue for damages and get a fair settlement and still paying high prices...

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David Amos

@David Lutz So you say but you know as well as I why I do not believe anything you claim. However I wonder if your fellow member of the bar Michael Hynes recalls the email I sent him September 21, 2015 Methinks I should give him another call N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@David Amos Methinks in light of the fat that I already easily proved that I had remained true to my word it was a rather major faux pas for a Crown Corp to cover the truth up now N'esy Pas?

Ed Munn

@David Lutz
That's why NL is fighting that tooth and nail!

 
Aaron Allison

We pay Insurance companies to take the Risk, the big problems is the Insurance companies want their cake and eat it to. Time for the Government to step in an bring in Government NO FAULT Insurance .

David Amos

@Aaron Allison It already is

Ed Munn

@Aaron Allison
Then good drivers aren't rewarded!

Murray Brown

Yes... Because everybody has had a 25% wage increase since the last auto insurance hike.

David Amos

@Murray Brown Methinks the bureaucrats and the union people who work for the government have had many wage increases but most of the folks who support them byway of taxation must survive on minimum wages that the wealthy few do not want increased N'esy Pas?

Norman Albert Snr

@Murray Brown Seniors got a nickle a day increase in OAS. It has to go some where!!!

Marc Martin

@David Amos

The unions within the public servants of the Federal service got a raise of .75 % per year for the last 8 years...That's a huge total of around 20 cents and hours, that is less of what the minimum salary got the last 8 years...Comment on subjects you know about.

Anne Bérubé

@Norman Albert Snr Trudeau is spending his time giving cheques to the third world (we are at the bottom of that list), young immigrants families with children, lots of them. There is nothing left for seniors. By the way, that nickle a day on OAS is not a nickle after income tax is deducted..

David Amos

@Marc Martin Cry me a river

Marc Martin

@David Amos

Do you want a hug?

David Amos

@Marc Martin Methinks I would rather have your personal lawyer's name N'esy Pas?

Ed Munn

@Murray Brown
Depend on what you're making, it mostly affects the working poor the new middle class!

Marc Martin

@David Amos

Ah you finaly realized you had the wrong Marc Martin after harassing all these poor souls...

David Amos

@Marc Martin I know who you are it is your personal lawyer i want to talk to

Dave Shimla

@David Amos marc martin is a federal employee. He is a translator in Fredericton , nice to see federal employees acting this way, give you a glimpse of their intelligence.
Here is his contact info, send his bosses his bigotry message he posts, he works for us an this behaviour should not be tolerated from federal employss that we pay
https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/contacts/contacts_renderer.7106.html

Dave Shimla

@Marc Martin that's because you guyz are already way overpaid as it is, federal employees should have a 30% reduction in pay, sick time, vacation, benefits... You know... Live like the rest of New Brunswick's population.

Dave Shimla

@Dave Shimla oops sorry marc,. I meant provincial employee :) SNB

Marc Martin

@Dave Shimla

*He is a translator in Fredericton *

No I am not, ask Davis he will confirm this lol

By the way just to let you know that link you provided is for a Service NB employee not a Federal employee...This is so funny.

That poor guy has been harassed over and over by Davis even if I told him that was not me :)

Marc Martin

@Dave Shimla

*that's because you guyz are already way overpaid as it is should have a 30% reduction in pay, sick time, vacation, benefits*

Jealousy and bitterness wont get you anywhere.

Marc Martin

@Dave Shimla

You people should be careful who you harass just saying :)

Dave Shimla

@Marc Martin; lol whys that cupcake?

Marc Martin

@Dave Shimla

Cause you can be charge for it...but just to let you know after Davis realized I was not that guy he went after another Marc Martin that works for SANB and guess what that's not me either ha ha

Dave Shimla

@Marc Martin trust me i retired in my 40s, sweet pension, no worries, not jealous at all lol

Marc Martin

@Dave Shimla

Actually you are...

Dave Shimla

@Marc Martin yes its you for sure.

Dave Shimla

@Marc Martin do you nee a hug now?

Marc Martin

@Dave Shimla

*yes its you for sure.*

Then call him lol

Marc Martin

@Dave Shimla

Not at all, this is going to be fun stuff...go ahead call him !!

David Amos

@Marc Martin Who is Davis?

David Amos

@Marc Martin "Cause you can be charge for it...but just to let you know after Davis realized I was not that guy he went after another Marc Martin that works for SANB and guess what that's not me either ha ha"

Not true and not funny either

Marc Martin

@David Amos

It is funny :)

David Amos

@Marc Martin Then why is it that your buddy Paolo Fongemie ain't laughing?

Roger Richard

@Marc Martin If .75% equal 20 cents. What is the hourly rate you are making?

David Amos

@Roger Richard LMAO

 
Marc Martin

Not surprise of this, Fredericton was named one of the worst city car drivers across Canada...

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David Amos

@Marc Martin Methinks that is because too many people like you live there N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@David Amos Oh My Thats a new one My reply went "Poof" because it was like too much???

Lou Bell

@Marc Martin Source ?? NONE !!!

Ed Munn

@Marc Martin
Naw Newfoundland is just as bad.

 
Norman Albert Snr

Have you been gouged yet today????? Collusion of both corporate interests and government policy.

David Amos

@Norman Albert Snr YUP

Ed Munn

@Norman Albert Snr
Whoever has the best swag!

 
McKenzie King

Time for the insurance board to start working for the taxpayers, not the insurance companies.

David Amos

@McKenzie King YUP

Ed Munn

@McKenzie King
Company reps buy a lot of dinners!

 
Mike Johnson

Time for a public option.... Quebec does it best. You automatically get no fault when you register your vehicle with an open market for additional coverage.

Stay away from the BC version which has led to a monopoly and fails to bench mark repair rates to outside the province.

David Amos

@Mike Johnson I agree

Ed Munn

@Mike Johnson
Quebec operates like a different country if it doesn't cost them transfer payments.

Pierre Cyr

@Mike Johnson Manitoba has the best system by far.

 
Anne Bérubé

Wawanesa is not the best insurance out there. We all need insurance but check around with other companies. Some are more fair than others.

Harold Benson

@Anne Bérubé Less unfair you mean.

David Amos

@Anne Bérubé Methinks Wawanesa will shudder a bit when I give them a call and talk of this article N'esy Pas?

Dan Armitage

@David Amos hahahahaha more like moan

Lou Bell

@Anne Bérubé Allstate tried some unethical dealings with my insurance, so i changed Companies > Tried to have me replace my roof , WITH NO INSPECTION , and i had shingles with a 25 year prorated warranty . Agent told me after 5 years I may as well throw the warranty out the door. Called my supplier and he guaranteed the warranty was for 25 years and had never heasd such a thing in his life. After i changed and hadn't renewed, Allstate called and asked why I hadn't renewed and when I told them why , they had the nerve to say I should have called an negotiated, which I attempted to do and they indicated there was no negotiating .

David Amos

@Dan Armitage Methinks you should call the ethical Mr Batten in Moncton and see if he is laughing as hard as you are N'esy Pas?

Ed Munn

@Anne Bérubé
Shop around, good advice.

 
Harold Benson

Thanks again insurance board for sticking up fo NBers

David Amos

@Harold Benson Methinks Sam should tell you that thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?

Ed Munn

@Harold Benson
Higher in NL!

 
David Peters

This amounts to just another tax hike.

David Amos

@David Peters YUP

Ed Munn

@David Peters
It's happening all over Canada.

 
Addie lingley

well what happens to the folks they apparently jump their insurance up if they have a claim or an accident, not saying it's good or right but where does all the money go

David Amos

@Addie lingley "where does all the money go"

I will give you 3 guesses and the first 2 won't count

Ed Munn

@Addie lingley
The money is paid out in dividends to stock holders...could be your neighbor!

David Amos

@Ed Munn Methinks you should be clever enough to know that Wawanesa is not a publicly held company N'esy Pas?

 
Michael Banis

I own a company that used to do a lot of confere3nces in the US. It did not take long for me to determine any employee who had gotten their license in New Brunswick and not lived somewhere else was NOT permitted to rent a car on trips.

The tail gating here out of control, because these are the same people who can not make a left turn across traffic, or stop suddenly in the middle of blocks because someone looked like they were going to cross the street, and people who can not do a zipper merge and speed 25Kph over the limit or 25 UNDER the limit. Not to mention the CRAZY road planners who want to CONTROL traffic rather than help people get where they are going safely.

Lou Bell

@Michael Banis Bad employees I guess !

David Amos

@Michael Banis I never had a problem renting a car anywhere

Ed Munn

@Michael Banis
They discriminate against NB drivers...No way!

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David Amos

@Ed Munn Methinks I should ask why you are following me into other comment sections N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@David Amos Well I guess that answers my question

Ed Munn

@Lou Bell
Only in NB..LOL

 
William Reed

There's an obscenity here that apparently never gets stated by the professionals that do these companies' public relations. Large insurance companies don't make money by collecting premiums and pocketing the difference between this and what is paid out. The insurance business relies on the return on investments made with the massive amount of money that is in their "float", amassed over many years. They may say to you that they need inflows of premiums to equal outflows in order for them to have a functioning business, but that is not true. Market performance is what makes or breaks them. What they are really afraid of is not meeting the growth targets of their bottom lines. The insurance business is pretty much what underpins the stock markets too. You are paying so that these companies can maintain the prices in those markets. There's a real perverse incentive in all this, and it has nothing to do with better serving people who are forced to insure everyone else and not themselves. What they are primarily selling you is insurance on their business model, imho. When they see shrinking growth they turn to you never mentioning the many good years and the size of their assets so far accumulated.

David Amos

@William Reed YUP

Ed Munn

@William Reed
So Trump isn't so bad after all..lol

Bea Peters

We are a retired couple with no insurance claims on home or auto, we have multiple policies with the same insurer and we qualify for a "loyalty" discount. Yet our house insurance went up by 65% this year!! It's outrageous that regular, law-abiding, safety-conscious citizens are held hostage by insurance companies because we are mandated by law to have insurance coverage.

David Amos

@Bea Peters Who are ya gonna call? Methinks Charles Murray should love to hear from you N'esy Pas?

Dave Corbin

@Bea Peters
no such thing as "loyalty" discounts. Its a ruse, shop around and if its been more than 3 or 4 years you likely can find policies at much better rates.

Ed Munn

@Bea Peters
They know they have you. I ride a bicycle for now.

Norman Albert Snr

@Ed Munn It is a great thing the government came through for seniors to help pay this increased cost with the 5 cents a day Mr Wayne and company provided for just such cases. Notice that when the OAS goes up the GIS takes the hit on the other end. Seniors live on less with rising costs during their final days. Shame on these Liberals and Cons.

 
Rosco holt

Never understood why the companies nails everyone, when they know who the repeat claimants are?

With greed no reason is needed, I guess.

David Amos

@Rosco holt Methinks greed is the root of all evil and the insurance business has been a wicked game ever since the notion of it was dreamed up by banksters in Not So Merry Old England centuries ago N'esy Pas?

Ed Munn

@Rosco holt
They go after the money!

Jason Langton

@Rosco holt this makes absolutely no sense. If people repeated claim then the insurance company has to pay. Claims almost always cost more then the premium brought in. So to keep a client who has multiple claims isnt greedy. its bad business and very few companies would ever allow this for that exact reason. most companies will nonrenew you after x amount of claims to prevent further losses on their part. now heres the thing. by law, everyone is entitled to get insurance. So even though 99% of the companies will decline multiple claims, you can still go to whats called facility or residual market where every company has to chip in to cover any losses incurred by these people. So thank the government for the increase. if insurance could simply decline repeat offenders and be done then things could be different.

Rosco holt

@Jason Langton
SOME claimants are fraudster, getting purposely in accidents to get money.

They're the ones who should pay more, not those who never got in accidents or made claims.

It's like when I went to school, the entire class got punished because of a few trouble makers. Now being an adult I tolerate allot less this kind of BS.

Punish those who deserve it and leave those who are innocent alone.

Norman Albert Snr

@Rosco holt Insurance is something you buy and hope you never have to use it. Insurance companies make it far less important by unwarranted increases and incentives "NOT TO MAKE" small claims. If you claim anything under $2K your a fool and will pay dearly for years to come. It is set up that way. It is all based on greed and government facilitation to rob.

Marc Martin

@Jason Langton

*this makes absolutely no sense*

You make no sense why would someone with a clean record get penalized ???

David Amos

@Marc Martin 'You make no sense why would someone with a clean record get penalized ???"

Methinks it is because common sense does not exist to greedy people and the politicians, bureaucrats, lawyers and cops etc who support the wrongs for their own gain For instance it made no sense for the Fat Fred City Finest and many other cops to harass me or for the RCMP to falsely arrest me but they did and yet I have no criminal record whatsoever N'esy Pas?

 
Irene Landry

I was with them for 10 years maybe, the last 2 years, I got an increased of like 100$ a month, just last fall (2018) my premium when up 40 a month. Since with Wawanessa, you either take it or leave it, I asked my broker to check around. Let me tell you, I am now saving 70$ a month with same or better coverage. There is no way a 30% increase, especiallly if you are always following protocol and having no fault. oh BTW, need to change the process for the Collision center. they will tell you, you need a new door with cost $3000.00 and the insurance will pay for it, but realistically, It is just a dent and easily fixable but hey, they get less money.

David Amos

@Irene Landry You do know that we have an ombudsman Charles Murray has been acting as our Consumer Advocate for Insurance for some time. Methinks that office should have been investigating such things for years since I first contacted them in 2007 N'esy Pas?

Ed Munn

@Irene Landry
It's the collision repair shops that amount for a lot of unnecessary replacements and some will work with customers to split the difference.

Ferdinand Boudreau

He we go! Just what I predicted once the government put a cap on claims, 5 or 6 Years ago. now the insurance companies are crying again.
Profit are too low for them.
Insurance companies are very greedy.

Time for a provincial government plan.

Jason Langton

@Ferdinand Boudreau By all means then, head to MB or SK or BC. maybe you missed the part that claims rose $144 million in 5 yrs with no increases to prices. Ive been doing insurance for 10 yrs now and this makes perfect sense. At some point people need to start realizing handouts dont exist. Insurance is a BUSINESS. Here to make money. If you owned a business that was bringing in less and less every year, what would you do? you have employees to pay, bills (hydro, lot fees, internet etc), claims that happen, and keep a minimum balance to comply with the government regualtions. And all of those cost more year after year because everyone gets a cost of living raise year after year. You want insurance to go down? Help prevent claims and fraud. Fix small damage before it gets out of hand and you have to call your insurance to pay. Make sure claims put in are actual claims and not adding unrelated and extra damages you just want fixed because "you paid for insurance so you deserve to be compensated". If people didnt abuse the system then prices wouldnt spike like this. We only have ourselves to blame.

Norman Albert Snr

@Jason Langton Still paying Lucky Larry for the WTC events of 9 one one

David Amos

@Norman Albert Snr Sad but true

Dave Shimla

@Jason Langton so ive been driving for 35 years with not so much as one claim ever...should my rates be going up or down?

Marc Martin

@Jason Langton

That's not a logical explanation, some people have clean record and they will still get hit, you are not looking like a genius buddy.

David Amos

@Marc Martin "you are not looking like a genius buddy."

Methinks the same should be said of you N'esy Pas?

 
Jeff Nicholls

Geico has been great, haven't had to run a claim through them yet, so we'll see.

David Amos

@Jeff Nicholls Exactly

Ed Munn

@Jeff Nicholls
They're probably not any better.

 
michael levesque

thank you david alward you did a bang up job destroying NB

David Amos

@michael levesque Methinks Alwar could not had pulled it off without assistance Mr Higgs and his buddies such as Steve Harper, Rob Moore, Frank mcKenna and the Irving Clan to name but a few N'esy Pas?

Ed Munn

@michael levesque
He wasn't alone though!

 
daryl doucette

This continuous gouging of consumers has got to stop. People will not be able to afford to live. It seems relentless....gas going up, groceries going up, power rates going up insurance sky rocketing, the soon to be ex Prime Minister Trudeaus idiotic " carbon tax", which will make everything else increase in price...where will it end?

David Amos

@daryl doucette Methinks Mr Higgs and Mr Trudeau hope it will end on the 12th of Never N'esy Pas?

Ed Munn

@daryl doucette
In the obituaries.

 
Jeff LeBlanc

Mine went down and continues to do so. Depends on your policy and your insurer.

David Amos

@Jeff LeBlanc Count your lucky stars

Ed Munn

@Jeff LeBlanc
You're probably a low risk!

 
Alexandre Gab

When i was with Wawanesa in the past, i was not a fan because they do things like this...punish their clients for other clients' mistakes... not good business.

David Amos

@Alexandre Gab Sounds about par for the course

 
Paul Bourgoin

New Brunswick, a have not Province being hustled with what appears to be the Premier Higgs approval of a 25% vehicle insurance increase approval thus forcing our children to leave NB our have not province to survive.

David Amos

@Paul Bourgoin Trust that the real villain is the Insurance Bureau of Canada they called me a thief in 2005 while I was running in the election of the 39th Parliament in Fat Fred City

David Amos 

@David Amos Back then Justin Murray the IBC Regional Director for Atlantic Canada worked with CISNB when the RCMP were calling me a Hells Angel and drug dealer etc while the Fat Fred City Finest seized my Harley and tried to claim it was stolen from the USA.

The RCMP even went so far as to falsely arrest me in 2008 without a warrant etc and now try to pretend it never happened yet I filed the proof in Federal Court. What is truly amazing after all these is how the mindless governmental minion Marc Martin character thinks he can tease me about my lawsuit like it is some kind of joke.

Car insurance rate hikes hitting 25% for some New Brunswick drivers

Wawanesa began issuing insurance renewals to customers with premium increases as high as 25% in January

Robert Jones· CBC News· Posted: Feb 28, 2019 5:00 AM AT 

Some New Brunswickers could be in for a hike in their car insurance bills. (Tony Smyth/CBC)

New Brunswick's largest auto insurance providers are having some early success convincing the province's insurance board they need substantial rate hikes from motorists this year.

In January, the province's biggest insurer, Wawanesa, began issuing renewals to customers with premium increases as high as 25 per cent, following a New Brunswick Insurance Board approval of its rate application in a decision in October.

The company told the board its average customer will see an increase of 11.7 per cent in 2019, but that rising accident claims in the province could have justified rate hikes nearly triple that amount.

• New Brunswick auto insurers seek largest rate hikes in 16 years

• Car insurance hikes shaping up to be highest in decade, consumer advocate says

• Auto insurance rates rising as companies blame costs of accident claims

"Our indication is about 30% [for rate hikes]," Wawanesa explained in its application to the board.
"[But] taking a rate increase of 30% would create substantial rate shock for our current policyholders and likely decrease retention dramatically.

"Keeping the overall impact on our current [customers] to 11.69 per cent allows us to take another step towards rate adequacy, while not shocking [clients] too drastically"

Increased payouts, reduced profits

Insurance companies maintain that more generous accident benefits allowed by auto insurance reforms introduced by the former government of David Alward in 2013 has increased insurance payouts and reduced profits substantially in the province and, generally, statistics support their position

According to Canada's General Insurance Statistical Agency, known as GISA, auto accidents in New Brunswick generated $376.9 million in claims in 2017. That's $144 million more than five years earlier — a 62 per cent increase —  with no increase in premiums over that period to pay for it.

GISA numbers show that between 2012 and 2017, the average premium paid by drivers in New Brunswick actually fell 53 cents to $803.15 per vehicle.

In January, the province's biggest insurer, Wawanesa, began issuing renewals to customers with premium increases as high as 25 per cent. (Robert Jones/CBC)

Insurance companies wishing to impose premium increases above three per cent in any year are required to have the amount approved by the New Brunswick Insurance Board.

Wawanesa was the first of what will likely be several double-digit rate hikes awarded to large insurers this year.

In a ruling earlier this month, the New Brunswick Insurance Board approved an average 13.96 per cent increase in premiums for customers of Economical Insurance for policies that renew anytime after this Friday.

Economical is New Brunswick's third-largest auto insurance company.

The fifth largest, Aviva, is having a hearing in front of the board this week on its application to raise rates an average of 12 per cent.

Attorney General lawyer questions hike

The applications are not without controversy, however.

New Brunswick's Office of the Attorney General has intervened in all of the major hearings, and although it did not oppose Wawanesa's application it did raise several questions about the size of Economical's rate hike.

Michael Hynes, a lawyer for the province, suggested Economical was mixing up single, isolated events such as the legal reforms of 2013 and a bad winter in 2015, with longer-term trends. As a result, it was exaggerating likely future increases in claims, he said. 

Michael Hynes, a lawyer representing the Office of the Attorney General, suggested Economical was mixing up isolated events such a bad winter in 2015 with longer-term trends and as a result was exaggerating likely future increases in claims. (CBC)

Hynes also noted the company's application for a 12 per cent after-tax return on equity is higher than what's allowed in Ontario, Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland and Labrador, which also have private auto insurance

The board acknowledged the validity of some of Hynes's criticisms but largely sided with the company, including endorsing its 12 per cent profit target.

"In the present filing, the panel finds the target after-tax return on equity of 12 per cent selected by the applicant to be reasonable in the circumstances and in light of the current market conditions," ruled the board.

Auto insurance policies generally last for one year, and increases approved by the board do not get passed along to consumers until their current policy expires and needs to be renewed.

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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 10:49:45 -0400Subject: Attn Michael Hynes Remember me?
To: michael.hynes@gnb.ca, "andrea.anderson-mason"
<andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca>, "david.eidt"<david.eidt@gnb.ca>,
david <david@lutz.nb.ca>, "Robert. Jones"<Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>,
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<Michael.Duheme@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>Michael L. Hynes
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Called to the bar: 2001 (NB)
Attorney General (NB), Office of the
Legal Services Branch
PO Box 6000, Stn. A
Fredericton, New Brunswick E3B 5H1
Phone: 506-453-2222
Fax: 506-453-3275
Email: michael.hynes@gnb.ca



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Car insurance rate hikes hitting 25% for some New Brunswick drivers
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Wawanesa began issuing insurance renewals to customers with premium
increases as high as 25% in January
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Feb 28, 2019 5:00 AM AT

"Michael Hynes, a lawyer representing the Office of the Attorney
General, suggested Economical was mixing up isolated events such a bad
winter in 2015 with longer-term trends and as a result was
exaggerating likely future increases in claims. (CBC)"


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David Lutz
There were soft tissue injury caps put in place to curb these high
cost. Now we can't sue for damages and get a fair settlement and still
paying high prices...


David Amos
@David Lutz So you say but you know as well as I why I do not believe
anything you claim. However I wonder if if your fellow member of the
bar Michael Hynes recalls the email I sent him September 21, 2015
Methinks I should give him another call N'esy Pas?




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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 01:47:09 -0400
Subject: Yo Danny Boy Bussierres Who do ya think Serge Rouselle will
send to argue me about your actions in Federal Court???
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Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "martin.gaudet"
<martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>, "Wayne.Gallant"
<Wayne.Gallant@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>,
complaints@officiallanguages.nb.ca,
commissioner@officiallanguages.nb.ca, "andrew.scheer"
<andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/contacts/dept_renderer.201794.1433.16683.html#employees

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/contacts/dept_renderer.173.11143.1768.html#employees

Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:23:18 -0300
From: "David Amos"david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
To: "Eidt, David (OAG/CPG)"David.Eidt@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
t.j.burke@gnb.ca, police@fredericton.ca, danny.copp@fredericton.ca,
jacques.boucher@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, jeff.mockler@gnb.ca,
samperrier@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Hey Mr Eidt is it you or the RCMP I argue in order to get
my Harley and the wiretap tapes back?

Go cry a river to your boss T.J. Burke or his buddy Jeff Mockler I
know what I sent you and I understand your obligations as a lawyer and
a public servant . It is not harrassment tio expect a bureaucrat in
the justice dept to uphold the law. You are a liar sir please allow me
to tell your boss and the cops for you what I think of you. Please all
the cops I already have your false allegations in writing and you have
only some of my files. Can you think of any reason why I shouldn't sue
you personally someday after we argue professionally?

Veritas Vincit
Davidraymond Amos

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Eidt, David (OAG/CPG) David.Eidt@gnb.ca wrote:

Mr. Amos,

You sent me two pieces of email on March 24, 2008. They have nothing
to do with me either personally or professionally. Please note that
your correspondence is unwanted. Any further such communications will
be considered harassing in nature. Please do not send me any more of
your communications.

Regards,

David Eidt
Legal Services
Office of the Attorney General
Tel: (506) 453-3964
Fax: (506) 453-3275
david.eidt@gnb.ca

Notice : CONFIDENTIAL and PRIVILEGED. This document contains
privileged and confidential information and should not be distributed
or copied to anyone without prior consultation with the author. Thank
you.

Avis : CONFIDENTIEL et PRIVILÉGIÉ. Ce document contient des
renseignements privilégiés et confidentiels et ne devrait être copié
ou circulé sans consultation préalable avec l'auteur. Merci.

From: Advocacy Collective advocacycollective@yahoo.com
Subject: Charles LeBlanc Website Post - NB Justice Minister Burke
Defending False Conviction
To:
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:05 PM

I am personally aware of another very similar case involving the same
prosecutor-turned-judge, and so I have little reason to doubt that
this man helped to have Mr. Walsh wrongly convicted. Maybe instead of
looking into Walsh's track record, T.J. Burke should look into the
track records of his own prosecutors and appointed judges. We could
also look into Mr. Burke's own criminal past, since I understand that
he has been convicted of at least one offence. He is also arguably
guilty of obstruction of justice, not just in the Walsh case, but in
my own case, where he has refused to do anything about his own
department effectively banning me from court in order to maintain my
wrongful conviction for contempt of court. This is an issue of
corruption and hypocrisy that is much larger than Mr. Walsh's almost
certain wrongful conviction.
- Vaughn Barnett

First the Irving's Rags write this about the doings between T.J. Burke
and I last year. have my blog and emails killed then sing your praises
about your legal Bullshit next year? Have alook for yourself lady

Threat against Burke taken seriously

By STEPHEN LLEWELLYN
dgleg@nb.aibn.com
Published Thursday May 24th, 2007
Appeared on page A1
An RCMP security detail has been guarding Justice Minister and
Attorney General T.J. Burke because of threats made against him
recently.

Burke, the Liberal MLA for Fredericton-Fort Nashwaaksis, wouldn't
explain the nature of the threats.

"I have had a particular individual or individuals who have made
specific overtures about causing harm towards me," he told reporters
Wednesday.

"The RCMP has provided security to me recently by accompanying me to a
couple of public functions where the individual is known to reside or
have family members in the area," said Burke. "It is nice to have some
added protection and that added comfort."

The RCMP provides protection to the premier and MLAs with its VIP security unit.

Burke didn't say when the threat was made but it's believed to have
been in recent weeks.

"When a threat is posed to you and it is a credible threat, you have
to be cautious about where you go and who you are around," he said.
"But again, I am more concerned about my family as opposed to my own
personal safety."

Burke said he doesn't feel any differently and he has not changed his
pattern of activity.

"It doesn't bother me one bit," he said. "It makes my wife feel awful nervous."

Burke served in an elite American military unit before becoming a
lawyer and going into politics in New Brunswick.

"(I) have taken my own precautions and what I have to do to ensure my
family's safety," he said. "I am a very cautious person in general due
to my background and training.

"I am comfortable with defending myself or my family if it ever had to happen."

Burke said it is not uncommon for politicians to have security concerns.

"We do live unfortunately in an age and in a society now where threats
have to be taken pretty seriously," he said.

Since the terrorism attacks in the United States on Sept. 11, 2001,
security in New Brunswick has been
beefed up.

Metal detectors were recently installed in the legislature and all
visitors are screened.

The position of attorney general is often referred to as the
province's "top cop."

Burke said sometimes people do not differentiate between his role as
the manager of the justice system and the individual who actually
prosecutes them.

"With the job sometimes comes threats," he said. "I have had numerous
threats since Day 1 in office."

Burke said he hopes his First Nations heritage has nothing to do with it.

"I think it is more of an issue where people get fixated on a matter
and they believe you are personally responsible for assigning them
their punishment or their sanction," he said.

Is the threat from someone who was recently incarcerated?

"I probably shouldn't answer that," he replied.

Reporters asked when the threat would be over.

"I don't think a threat ever passes once it has been made," said
Burke. "You have to consider the credibility of the source."

Bruce Fitch, former justice minister in the Conservative government,
said "every now and again there would be e-mails that were not
complimentary."

"I did have a meeting with the RCMP who are in charge of the security
of the MLAs and ministers," said Fitch.

"They look at each and every situation."

Fitch said he never had bodyguards assigned to him although former
premier Bernard Lord and former health minister Elvy Robichaud did
have extra security staff assigned on occasion.

He said if any MLA felt threatened, he or she would discuss it with the RCMP.

Group studies its legal options
Early immersion | Reversal of decision wanted ASAP
By JENNIFER DUNVILLE
dunville.jennifer@dailygleaner.com
Published Tuesday April 8th, 2008
Appeared on page A1


"Lafleur, Lou"lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca wrote:

From: "Lafleur, Lou"lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca
To: "'motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com'"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com,
"Lafleur, Lou"lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca
Subject: Fredericton Police Force
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:21:13 -0300

Dear Mr. Amos

My Name is Lou LaFleur and I am a Detective with the Fredericton
Police Major Crime Unit. I would like to talk to you regarding files
that I am investigating and that you are alleged to have involvement
in.

Please call me at your earliest convenience and leave a message and a
phone number on my secure and confidential line if I am not in my
office.

yours truly,

Cpl. Lou LaFleur
Fredericton Police Force
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Fredericton, NB
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 07:56:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Amos"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Who says they are ignoring me Chucky? Ask Barry McKnight why
the Yankees are researching him
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Where are ya living now???? Since the media seem to ignore ya? I'll
sit down for a debate with a recorder for the blog...Now? Don't get
all exicted and send this all over the world.....lol

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would try to make him famous

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=davidraymondamos&search=Search

A man is only as good as his word EH? To bad priests, bankers,
politicians, lawyers and cops can't claim the same N'est Pas?



Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 08:24:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Amos"
Subject: Re: RE : What of the evidence of murder I just sent you?
To: robin.cantin@OCOL-CLO.GC.CA
CC: carl.urquhart@gnb.ca, mike.olscamp@gnb.ca, bruce.northrup@gnb.ca,
info@pco-bcp.gc.ca, bill.corby@gnb.ca, ken.cook@fredericton.ca,
brad.green@gnb.ca, bev.harrison@gnb.ca, Wayne.STEEVES@gnb.ca,
bruce.noble@fredericton.ca, Jody.CARR@gnb.ca, Keith.ASHFIELD@gnb.ca,
David.ALWARD@gnb.ca, warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca, Comuzzi.J@parl.gc.ca, Arthur.A@parl.gc.ca,
Kathy.Alchorn@fredericton.ca, Kim.Quartermain@fredericton.ca,
police@fredericton.ca, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, info@gg.ca

Exactly

May I suggest that you call the RCMP/GRC and the Office of Public
Sector Integrity NOW?

Then perhaps you should have your lawyer contact me.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond amos



Subject: RE : What of the evidence of murder I just sent you?
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:58:37 -0400
From: robin.cantin@OCOL-CLO.GC.CA
To: David Amos

I fail to see how that is something the Commissioner of Official
Languages could possibly investigate. Obviously, for criminal matters
you need a police force, not a language ombudsman.

Robin

-----Message d'origine-----
De : David Amos
Envoyé : 20 mai, 2008 10:49
À : Cantin, Robin
Objet : What of the evidence of murder I just sent you?
Importance : Faible

robin.cantin@OCOL-CLO.GC.CA wrote:

Ah yes, I did remember your message when you mentioned our Moncton
office and court intervention on the phone.

I assume you are aware that the issue has already been taken to court
- an application for judicial review has been filed to the Court of
Queen's Bench in Saint John. See

http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/front/article/296686.

I believe the response you got from our office in Moncton makes sense.
On the topic of the AG's powers, jurisprudence is full of cases that
went to court (and some were won) despite the opposition of a
provincial AG.

Cordially,

Robin Cantin
Manager, Media Relations / Gestionnaire, Relations avec les médias
Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages / Commissariat aux
langues officielles
Phone / Téléphone : (613) 995-0374
Cell. : (613) 324-0999
robin.cantin@ocol-clo.gc.ca

Please visit our Web site www.officiallanguages.gc.ca and read Beyond
Words, Canada’s official languages newsletter.
Veuillez visiter notre site Web www.languesofficielles.gc.ca et lire
Au-delà des mots, le cyberbulletin des langues officielles du Canada.


-----Message d'origine-----
De : David Amos
Envoyé : 20 mai, 2008 10:24
À : Cantin, Robin
Objet : Fwd: RE: Does the Language Commissioner suggest that I file
something in Federal Court instead of him?

From: tclaw@nb.aibn.com
To: "David Amos"
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: Does the Language Commissioner suggest that I
file something in Federal Court instead of him?
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 17:22:57 -0400

Mr. Amos, thank you for your telephone message and the email attached.

Tom Christie

From: David Amos
Date: 2008/05/16 Fri PM 04:22:13 EDT
To: bureau@acpi-cait.ca, tclaw@nb.aibn.com
Subject: Fwd: RE: Does the Language Commissioner suggest that I file
something in Federal Court instead of him?

Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:36:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Amos"
Subject: For the Record I just called and tried to alk to Graham
Fraser and Gilbert Taylor and was not allowed to do so
To: robin.cantin@ocol-clo.gc.ca

I was told by Taylor's assistant that he was in Ottawa today. whereas
you people do not wish to dicuss the Act that you were hired to uphold
we will argue it in Federal Court as the commissioner of Languages in
New Brunswick suggests. EH?

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos



From: David Amos
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:55 PM
To: Parent, Patricia (OL-LO)
Subject: Does the Language Commissioner suggest that I file something
in Federal Court instead of him?

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/ShowFullDoc/cs/O-3.01///en

Everybody knows that the Attorney General will stop any lawsuit that
does not suit him or his political party within the Province of New
Brunsick. Perhaps the Commissioner and I should have a long talk ASAP
EH?

Veritas Vincit

David Raymond Amos

"Parent, Patricia (OL-LO)"Patricia.Parent@gnb.ca wrote:

Dear Sir:

I acknowledge receipt of your email message below.

Rest assured that your comments have been passed on to the Commissioner.

For your information, please find below a statement that went out on
March 20th, 2008, from our office to the media all across the
province. This should answer your questions regarding what the
Commissioner has done and continues to do with respect to the issue of
French Second Language (FSL).

It is important to note that this issue will require more than the
Commissioner's position and unless parents and other members of the
public openly take issue and condemn the decision, the chances that
the plan will be implemented are quite high.

Thank you for your interest and for contacting our office.

Yours truly,

Patricia Parent
Manager / Gestionnaire
Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages for N.B.
Bureau du Commissaire aux langues officielles du N.-B.
440 rue King Street
Tour King Tower, Pièce/Suite 646
Fredericton, N.B. E3B 5H8
telephone (TTY)/téléphone (ATS) : (506) 444-4229 toll free
(TTY)/aucuns frais (ATS) : 1-888-651-6444
facsimile/télécopieur : (506) 444-4456
www.officiallanguages.nb.ca / www.languesofficielles.nb.ca

Français ou anglais..C'est votre choix!
English or French..It's your choice!

From: David Amos
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:51 PM
To: complaints@officiallanguages.nb.ca; commissioner@officiallanguages.nb.ca
Cc: Colford, Krista (OAG/CPG); Doyle Landry, Heather (OAG/CPG); Gould,
William (OAG/CPG); Laflamme, Marcel (OAG/CPG); Volpé, Jeannot (LEG);
MacDonald, Kirk (LEG); Fitch, Bruce (LEG); Betts, John W. (LEG)
Subject: No need of a legal team to study the French question the
Commissioner should read the Charter He is a lawyer Correct?

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Alison J. Menard menard@nbnet.nb.ca wrote:

Mr. Amos

Please stop communicating with me immediately by telephone, cellular,
and email and/or by any other means of communication. Your contacts
with me are unsolicited and unwanted and I am asking you to cease and
desist.

Please also take this as your notice that should you continue to
harass me, I will make a complaint to the police and pursue this
matter through the criminal courts. I am a criminal lawyer and I am
very aware of what constitutes criminal harassment and/or threats.

I also have an understanding of how you operate because of information
provided to me by my husband, Scott Agnew. I can tell you that I will
not tolerate it.

Yours truly

Alison Ménard


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 16:16:11 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and Taxmen
To: Saint Croix Courier <editor@stcroixcourier.ca>, Duncan Matheson
<duncan@bissettmatheson.com>, infoacadie@radio-canada.ca
Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:43 AM
Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and
Taxmen
To: mattmastersburgener@gmail.com, ko.zepik@gmail.com,
kelly.christie@greenparty.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 10:18:04 -0300
Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and
Taxmen
To: nicolas@allvotes.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,  brendan@brendanmiles.ca
Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Tim.Moen@libertarian.ca,
info@democraticadvancementparty.ca

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Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
Methinks even a corrupt Yankee lawyer heading for prison can serve the Free World now and then N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/michael-cohens-testimony-just-piled.html


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/michael-cohen-testimony-trump-prosecution-statute-of-limitations-1.5036442

Michael Cohen's testimony just piled more pressure on Trump to win in 2020 — or risk prison

1291 Comments

 

Michael John

The GOP's subservience to Trump is perhaps more disturbing than his supporters submissive ignorance.

John Goode

@Michael John
Very cult like in both respects.

James Carpenter

@Michael John

Kim - 1 trump - 0

John Dirlik

@Michael John

The amorality of the GOP (and much of the old school Democrats is neither new nor surprising.

Both are war parties feeding the military industrial complex (whether by Obama giving $38 billion in taxpayers money to Israel for US arms, or Trump signing the largest weapon deal in US history with Wahhabis).

A refreshing change is the growing popularity of Bernie Sandsrs and the election of progressive new voices like Alexandria Cortez, Tliab and Ilhan Omar, who vowed to tackle the pernicious influence of lobby groups like oil, big pharmaceutical, NRA and AIPAC.

Expect them to be viciously attacked by the corporate media, an active accomplice that peddled WMD lies in 2093 to sell the Iraq war, continues to spread pro-Israel narratives to justify its occupation, and recently glamorized as “rebels” the jihadis engaged in US “regime change” plans in Syria.

Mary Measures

@Michael John

I would remove the "perhaps" from your response.

The scariest thing Cohen said was that Trump may not cede power if he loses the 2020 election.

William Perry

@Michael John
Totally agree. The Republicans that confronted Michael Cohen all tried to discredit him. Easy to do because of what he has done for Trump over the past ten years and his lying for Trump. Cohen soon came to realize that Trump threw his sorry --- under the bus and the undying love was lost and taking a bullet for Trump was also indeed lost.To those Republicans who listened to Trump on a daily basis spouting his almost 9000 untruths as recorded by WaPo it simply did not matter. Trump is what he is and always was . Michael Cohen came to his senses, told the truth and ended up with a three year prison sentence. Yesterday he appeared voluntarily and in my opinion was credible in his replies. He now has to worry about his family's safety .

Zahava Goldfinkel

@Michael John

I don't think his supporters display any submissive *ignorance* at all.

They know exactly what they're supporting.

They know he has had multiple affairs. They know he has hired you-know-whos for you-know-what. They know he has broken the law. They know he has tried to cover it up. They know he's a draft dodger. They know virtually every word he utters is a falsehood. They know the GOP is corrupt. They know it's all a scam.

They know. But they themselves--the very people who vote--are now corrupt and bereft of all public morality and dignity.

It's a real conundrum for democracy.

William Perry

@William Perry
Discredit Cohen. No defense of Trump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republican-focus-on-discrediting-cohen-leaves-little-time-to-defend-trump/2019/02/27/33d8f67c-3ace-11e9-aaae-69364b2ed137_story.html?utm_term=.fabf9bc638b0

Guy Stone

@Michael John - look up Cohen.. he is hardly believable. Still no real facts.

Albert Ford Upton

@Guy Stone ....missed the cheques did you?

James Rielly

@John Dirlik Let's hope for electoral reform because if it's not the same gerrymandering and corporate lobbying will continue unabated.

James Rielly

@James Rielly...because if not,the same...

Content disabled.

David Amos

@Zahava Goldfinkel Methinks if you or Matt Kwong were gonna offer us your opinions on Trump and his lawyer you would have at least Googled the following by now N'esy Pas?

david amos trump cohen nafta fatca

Richard Jay

@Michael John

It's funny coming to CBC and seeing the daily Trump nonsense. You people eat this stuff up like there's no tomorrow. Honestly this style or reporting is very similar to TMZ. When will CBC invest in one of those scrolling bars that say "breaking news" for every Trump article they come out with.

Michael Cohen's testimony makes Trump guilty of nothing. How do the "experts" figure he needs to win in 2020 or risk prison?

Dan Cooper

@Richard Jay

It's even funnier that you don't apply this same logic to the daily red meat stories, for conservative partisans, on the Liberals/SNC.

Once again a conservative is outraged and thinks they are a victim because they are treated as they treat others LOL

 

James Spencer III

Pretty sad when the leader is only protected from prison by being in power.

Richard Dunphy

@James Spencer III

The powers pf the US president have become too great.

This was not the intention of the Founders.

Peter Bolivar

@Richard Dunphy
I would say the same thing about the Prime Minister (and the PMO itself) in Canada. We have treated the Prime Minister as the government for decades now, and it got worse in the last 10 years.

Richard Dunphy

@Peter Bolivar

Maybe, but as usual with those defending Trump, your post is completely off topic.

Peter Bolivar

@Richard Dunphy
Defending Trump?

Where have I defended Trump?

I agree with your assessment, and think, to a lesser degree, the same phenomenon is happening in Canada.

Point to a post where I defend Trump.

He is not fit for office, he is the most dishonest President since... ever, and he is not incompetent. I hope they impeach him.

My post was about too much power invested into a single executive entity.

James Rockford - ( Spaceman )

@James Spencer III

Just like in 3rd world countries run by dictators. Ironic eh ?

Mike Martin

@Peter Bolivar
You would say the same thing but you would be wrong.

Peter Bolivar

@Peter Bolivar
*meant to say "and he is not competent."

My bad.

Guy Stone

@Peter Bolivar i dont like Trump overall without question but we live in Canada so lets at least worry about Canada more. Agree 100% that the leaders should have reduced power in all nations. Trudeau should not be able to offer the media our money or muzzle an AG while criticizing her

 

James Fitzgibbon

@James Spencer III

Yes, the American system is ridiculous.

James Fitzgibbon

@Guy Stone

Is it your impression that Trudeau is getting away with this? And you seriously are putting what Trudeau did on the same level as what Trump has done? Seriously? Hilarious.

David Amos

@James Spencer III Methinks it is as the Yankees such as "The Donald" often proclaim "It ain't over til the fat lady sings" N'esy Pas?

David Allan

@James Spencer III

"Pretty sad when the leader is only protected from prison by being in power."
Yep.

It happens here too.
Harper did it. He stayed in office just long enough to enjoy parliamentary immunity on the Duffy scandal.

Richard Jay

@James Spencer III

"Pretty sad when the leader is only protected from prison by being in power."

Pretty sad when people believe CBC's nonsense articles. They've been putting these articles out for years now and people still can't see the nonsense in them.

Come on people. Surely your not that dense. The FBI investigation might put Trump away but Michael Cohen's testimony for sure won't. It's nothing but entertainment for you. To send someone to prison you need PROOF.

David Allan

@Richard Jay

"The FBI investigation might put Trump away but Michael Cohen's testimony for sure won't. It's nothing but entertainment for you. To send someone to prison you need PROOF."

Cohen has receipts and recordings.
Everything he has released to Congress has supporting proof.

David Amos

@David Allan "Cohen has receipts and recordings. Everything he has released to Congress has supporting proof."

So do I and you have laughed at it for way past too long

David Amos

@David Allan Methinks you should have at least Googled the following by now N'esy Pas?

david amos trump cohen nafta fatca

James Rockford - ( Spaceman )

Trump said he'd release his tax returns after they were finished being audited. Turns out they were not being audited at all. And he has never released them.

So, why his he afraid to release them, what is in there that will incriminate him ?

Clifton Tremblay

@James Rockford - ( Spaceman ) I still believe the big issue is that they may show he doesn't have as much money as he claims. His ego would not take that being revealed to the public.

Guy Stone

@James Rockford - ( Spaceman ) he doesnt make the money he claims to make

James Rockford - ( Spaceman )

@Guy Stone

Of course he doesn't, hundreds of law suits against him and his company. Mueller will have his tax returns, lets hope he makes them public.

David Amos

@James Rockford - ( Spaceman ) Methinks Trump and everybody else particularly Mr Mueller and Mr Comey know why I sued 3 US Treasury Agents twice in 2002. Hence unlike Al Capone "The Donald" has a get out jail free card to serve upon the "Untouchables" anytime he wishes N'esy Pas?

Ed Munn

@James Rockford - ( Spaceman )
He's afraid, news to me!

Ed Munn

@Clifton Tremblay
He's being evasive.

James Rockford - ( Spaceman )

@Ed Munn

I have no doubt that a lot of things are news to you.

James Rockford - ( Spaceman )

@Guy Stone

If you watched Cohen's testimony yesterday, he stated that Trump grossly undervalued many of his properties and golf courses for tax purposes.
That's called tax fraud and it's a felony. It's on of the things Cohen is going to prison for.

James Rockford - ( Spaceman )

@David Amos

non

Dan Cooper

@James Rockford - ( Spaceman )

The same reason he posts pictures of himself on social media that have had hands enlarged.

He also pays off women he has sex with so that they cannot talk about his big hands lol

His whole persona is as real as whatever you call that thing on his head

David Amos

@James Rockford - ( Spaceman ) Methinks I should not be surprised by that reply N'esy Pas?

 

Doug McKenzie

Will trump seek asylum in Russia?

Christopher Assaly

@Doug McKenzie

1-800-Vlad -- "Can we get that Trump Tower built with my new residence on the top floors"

Clifton Tremblay

@Doug McKenzie Trump's usefulness to Putin ends the second he is out of power. Putin wouldn't take him.

David Amos

@Doug McKenzie Why not?

David Magner (YYC)

@Doug McKenzie

Would Air Force 1 fly him there instead of home from Vietnam if he ordered it? Are the military and the secret service loyal to The President or to the Presidency? If the latter they should intervene to prevent him from fleeing.

Ed Munn

@Doug McKenzie
He has a lot of places to go!

 

bud webster

he bought a painting for 60 grand of himself...Crack me up

Andrew Hebda (NS)

@bud webster Actually he had his "arms-length" trust buy if-t for him

David Amos

@Andrew Hebda (NS) Of that I have no doubt

Ed Munn

@bud webster
He's not the only one.

 

James Spencer III

Trump university closed for corruption. Trump charity closed for corruption. Trump inauguration under investigation. Trump business under investigation. House of cards falling.

Mary-Ellen Johnson

@James Spencer III My favorite item was that the convicted Russian mafia boss (can't recall his name right now), had his office right beside Trump's in the tower.....you can't make this stuff up.

David Amos

@Mary-Ellen Johnson Methinks a lot of folks on both sides of the 49th should agree that fact is kinda special N'esy Pas?

Richard Jay

@Mary-Ellen Johnson

"you can't make this stuff up."

Believing you can't make that stuff up is your first problem. Yes you can.

Ed Munn

@James Spencer III
My diploma is invalid...Geez!

 

Tom Abbott

Trump has ZERO credibility.

Michael Kachmar

@Tom Abbott That is because his is incredible...it is like incalculable, so you cannot put a number to it...well done.

Haven Greenshield

@Michael Kachmar No, but nice try.

Jane Miller

@Michael Kachmar

zero is a number.

David Amos

@Tom Abbott "Trump has ZERO credibility."

Methinks I should ask what does that say of the purportedly profound Yankee Republic that "The Donald" was duly elected to oversee?

Ed Munn

@Tom Abbott
I wouoldn't say that, bad credit maybe.

William Perry

if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.
- Nate White

David Amos

@William Perry Methinks Dr Frankenstien would have been wise enough to give "The Donald" a full head of hair so that most folks would not make fun of his monster N'esy Pas?

Ed Munn

@William Perry
Naw Trudeau!

Tim Biddiscombe

So ..once again, Kim plays Trump like a fat fiddle.

Michael Kachmar

@Tim Biddiscombe Hereditary dictator meets elected official...how was it supposed to go?

ted armstrong

@Michael Kachmar

which one is the hereditary dictator?

David MacKinnon

@Tim Biddiscombe
When is Kim going to learn that the US is feared and heeded; guess it will have to wait for president Harris; she will make Kim quake, maybe she will appoint Hillary to negotiate for the Empire, would that be great -- do you think it would/could be like Libya where they let a Canadian General bomb the country into smitherines

Michael Kachmar

@ted armstrong awe, snap. I'm sure if that is stage worthy yet...keep trying.

David Amos

@Tim Biddiscombe "So ..once again, Kim plays Trump like a fat fiddle."

Surprise Surprise Surprise

Ed Munn

@Tim Biddiscombe
Ya you think?

 

Arlond Lynds

And Trump's ultimate distraction save the world tour falls flat, big surprise there. Way to go Michael.

David Amos

@Arlond Lynds Methinks even a corrupt Yankee lawyer heading for prison can serve the Free World now and then N'esy Pas?

Michael Cohen's testimony just piled more pressure on Trump to win in 2020 — or risk prison

Former Trump fixer's testimony raises president’s criminal exposure, experts say

Matt Kwong· CBC News· Posted: Feb 28, 2019 4:00 AM ET

Michael Cohen, left, the former personal attorney of U.S. President Donald Trump, made several explosive allegations in his testimony before the House Oversight Committee on Capitol Hill Wednesday. (Carlos Barria, Kevin Lamarque/Reuters)

Michael Cohen may well be a liar, but he's a liar who kept receipts.

That may prove incriminating for his former boss Donald Trump, opening the U.S. president to a level of criminal exposure that will be hard for impeachment-leery lawmakers to ignore, and raising the stakes on Trump's 2020 re-election bid as a must-win contest for him to duck potential jail time.
Cohen testified Wednesday before the House oversight committee in an open hearing on Capitol Hill.

The former fixer and personal attorney to President Trump shared documentary evidence with Congress that he said points to alleged criminal wrongdoing by the president.

As part of damning public testimony that characterized Trump as "a cheat,""a conman" and "a racist," Cohen presented copies of Trump's personal financial statements, as well as a copy of the $130,000 US wire transfer to adult-film actress Stormy Daniels' attorney and a signed cheque from Trump's personal bank account for illegal "hush money" payments in 2016 to Daniels to cover up her alleged extra-marital affair with Trump.

• Cohen returns to Capitol Hill after Trump derides 'fake' hearing

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Cohen, who said Trump instructed him to lie to the public about the payments after becoming president, implored members of the panel not just to take his word for it.

"I want you to look at the documents. I want you to make your own decision," he said.

Trump's signature on a cheque would appear to support the allegation he was involved in an illegal campaign contribution. The unreported payment to Daniels far exceeded the $2,700 US maximum for an individual in a general election.

'Legal jeopardy' 

With the new evidence pointing to possible campaign finance violations to buy her silence, Trump's re-election in 2020 might be the surest way to make his deepening criminal exposure go away.

"Of course it's a consideration. I'm sure it's crossed his mind," said Steven Billet, director of the Masters in Legislative Affairs at George Washington University. "The president is a very calculating man, and he understands the legal jeopardy he faces."

This image provided by Michael Cohen's attorney, Lanny Davis, shows copies of two cheques that Cohen presented to the committee on Wednesday. Cohen said Trump wrote the cheques from his personal bank account after he became president as a reimbursement for payments Cohen made to buy the silence of adult film star Stormy Daniels who alleges she had an affair with Trump. (Lanny Davis via Associated Press)

The calculus is based on U.S. Department of Justice guidelines that a sitting president cannot be indicted. The statute of limitations on most federal offences, including the campaign finance violation, is five years. Without an indictment within that timeframe, it washes away.

That means Trump can likely preserve his liberty as long as wins another term. But if Trump is voted out of the Oval Office next year, "there's nothing that would protect him," said Brian Klaas, a political scientist at the University College London and author of The Despot's Apprentice: Donald Trump's Attack on Democracy.

Republican members on the panel noted correctly— and repeatedly — during Cohen's public testimony on Wednesday that he's facing a three-year sentence for making knowingly false statements to Congress in 2017. What doesn't lie is a hard paper record such as a hush-money reimbursement cheque signed by Trump, Klaas said.

"The Republican strategy of discrediting [Cohen] as a liar does not make that cheque disappear. The cheque, to me, is the big story here because it corroborates."

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• Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg granted immunity

Klaas said Cohen's Wednesday testimony will intensify calls for Trump's impeachment and pressure House Democrats still hesitant about that idea.

"What is impeachment for, if not to remove a president who committed crimes while in office?" he asked.

A corroborated federal crime would be difficult for lawmakers to disregard, even if it appears unlikely a Republican-dominated Senate would vote to convict and expel Trump.

'Co-conspirator'

If maintaining Trump's innocence is crucial, Republican lawmakers on Wednesday appeared preoccupied instead with picking apart Cohen's credibility. Former New Jersey governor Chris Christie, a Trump ally, was among those who found the Republican members' questions lacking.

"There hasn't been one Republican yet who's tried to defend the president on the substance," Christie remarked on ABC News. "That should be concerning to the White House."

Meanwhile, Cohen's testimony has potentially opened Trump to more criminal exposure on multiple new fronts. Cohen testified Trump "knew about the release of the hacked Democratic National Committee emails ahead of time," suggesting that Trump was aware of Russia's alleged involvement in the scheme.

U.S. President Donald Trump is meeting with North Korean Leader Kim Jong-un in Hanoi for a summit on defusing tensions between the countries, but took time out in Vietnam to criticize his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, on Twitter. (Leah Millis/Reuters)

"If Trump encouraged or provided advice about the timing of the release, then he could be added as a co-conspirator," said former federal prosecutor Barbara McQuade.

If it's true that Trump's lawyers reviewed and edited his prior false testimony to Congress in 2017, as Cohen also alleged on Wednesday, that presents a risk of charges that Trump was involved in conspiracy to suborn perjury.

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  What Michael Cohen knew: 7 things to keep in mind as he testifies publicly about Trump

McQuade is interested in seeing how Trump's written answers to U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller for the probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election "match up" with Cohen's testimony.

"If Mueller concludes that Trump lied, he could face impeachment articles for obstruction of justice," she said.

More testimony

The impeachment question now looks thornier for Republicans than it did before Cohen's testimony, said Michael Gerhardt, an expert on impeachment at the University of North Carolina. It was the Republicans, after all, who went after former president Bill Clinton for lying under oath about an affair with Monica Lewinsky.

"One question will be whether any of the charges Cohen makes against Trump rise to a similar level of impeachable conduct," Gerhardy said.

Determining whether a signed check could be used as evidence of an impeachable offence rests on two things: Whether Trump acted in bad faith, and whether this violation of the law caused "serious injury" to the republic, he said.

Michael Cohen will testify again on Thursday in Washington. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)

What Republicans will be scrambling to minimize, he said, is allegations Trump may have acted in bad faith or deliberately flouted the law. That's a question that Cohen seemed to answer during questioning by Democratic lawmaker Eleanor Holmes Norton.

Asked by the congresswoman if the hush-money payments were made to influence the 2016 election's outcome, Cohen sounded resolute.

"The answer is yes," he said.

• 'He directed me to make the payments': Cohen says Trump's denials aren't believable

Cohen returns to Capitol Hill on Thursday for another round of testimony, the last of three back-to-back hearings. It will be a closed-door meeting with the House intelligence committee.

He is scheduled to report to prison in May.

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