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New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board
Commission de L'Énergie et des Services Publics N.-B.

PARTICIPANTS - Matter 375


IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation for
approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year commencing
April 1, 2018.

held at the Delta Hotel, Saint John, New Brunswick, on April 3rd 2018.

                              Henneberry Reporting Service

New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board
Commission de L'Énergie et des Services Publics N.-B.

PARTICIPANTS - Matter 375


IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation for
approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year commencing
April 1, 2018.

held at the Delta Hotel, Saint John, New Brunswick, on April 3rd 2018.



BEFORE:          Francois Beaulieu    - Vice-Chairman
                 Michael Costello     - Member
                 Patrick Ervin        - Member

NB Energy and Utilities Board
                          - Counsel - Ms. Ellen Desmond, Q.C.
                          - Staff   - David Young
                                    - John Lawton
                                    - Michael Dickie
..............................
..............................
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Good morning, everyone.  This is the continuation of
Matter 375.  I will start with appearances with NB Power Corporation.
  MR. FUREY:  Good morning, Mr. Vice-Chair.  John Furey for the
Corporation, accompanied by Lori Clark.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Good morning, Mr. Furey.  Enbridge Gas New
Brunswick?  Nobody is here from Enbridge Gas New Brunswick.  Gerald
Bourque?  Mr. Bourque is not here.  JD Irving, Limited?
  MR. STEWART:  Christopher Stewart, Mr. Vice-Chair.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Good morning, Mr. Stewart.
  MR. STEWART:  Good morning.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  New Clear Free Solutions?  Mr. Rouse is not here.
Dr. Richard?
  DR. RICHARD:  Oui, bonjour.  I am here.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Bonjour, Dr. Richard.  Sussex Sharing Club?  No one
is from the club.  Utilities Municipal?
  MR. STOLL:  Good morning, Scott Stoll.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Good morning, Mr. Stoll.  The Public Intervener?
  MS. BLACK:  Good morning, Mr. Vice-Chair.  Heather Black.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Good morning, Ms. Black.  And New Brunswick Energy
and Utilities Board?
  MS. DESMOND:  Ellen Desmond.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Good morning, Ms. Desmond.  The purpose of this
morning is, as it was stated last week, we scheduled this morning to
hear submissions regarding a motion that was brought forward by the
applicant, New Brunswick Power Corporation.  And I just want to maybe
provide a little context of what we are planning to do this morning.
        First of all, a notice of motion and supporting documents were filed
with the Board on March 26th 2018 requesting a modification of the
hearing schedule in order to permit the filing of a modified rate
increase proposal with additional supporting evidence on or before
April 4th 2018.  This issue was -- well the issue of the modification
of the hearing schedule was dealt with by the Board in an oral
decision on March 27th.  And there was an affidavit that was filed by
Mr. Darren Murphy with the notice of motion.  His affidavit was dated
March 26th.  And inside -- within his affidavit he -- there was a
claim for confidentiality that was being advanced with respect to the
settlement terms regarding this -- the name of the -- regarding the
claim for material damage and delay in the start-up brought against
the consortium of insurers regarding the refurbishment of Point
Lepreau.
        The claim was filed with the Board on March 26th.  And the Board
understands from the claim for confidentiality that was filed that
there is three documents that are being requested to be held in
confidence -- or in confidential, or at least one, and there is two
others that NB Power does not want to disclose at this time to the
interveners.  And I will just review our understanding regarding these
three documents.
        The first document is a confidential exhibit NBP 36.06C, which has
been filed with the Board, which is a letter dated -- Mr. Furey, just
-- is the letter dated March 28th?
  MR. FUREY:  That's correct, Mr. Vice-Chair.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Thank you.  So that letter was filed with the
Board, and it sets out an amount of the settlement and it was asked by
NB Power that the Chief Clerk maintain personal custody of the letter
pending the Board's decision with respect to the public hearing -- the
public interest hearing.
        There is also an objection by NB Power to the filing of the terms and
conditions of the settlement between NB Power and the insurers related
to the claim for the material damage and delay in the start-up brought
against a consortium of insurers related to the refurbishment of Point
Lepreau Nuclear Generating Station.  In particular, NB Power requests
that the minutes of settlement executed on or about March 21st 2018
not be filed with the Board.  And there is also an objection by NB
Power to the filing of the terms and conditions of the release.  And
Mr. Furey, maybe you could help me regarding the date of the release
that -- was it signed at the same time as the minutes of settlement?
  MR. FUREY:  Yes, it was, Mr. Vice-Chair.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  So that's March --
  MR. FUREY:  March 22nd, yes.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  22nd?  21st?
  MR. FUREY:  Both are dated March 22nd.  I apologize, in the
affidavit of Mr. Murphy, we have correctly referred to it being the
22nd.  In the claim for confidentiality, I notice that it was an
uncorrected error on my part, it said March 21st.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Okay.
  MR. FUREY:  So it is March 22nd was the date of execution.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Thank you.  So the claim for confidentiality
states that the confidentiality provision expressly provides authority
to disclose the settlement amount to the Board, which has been done,
and that all other disclosure is prohibited and any requests for
further disclosure must be the subject of a notice to insurers for the
purpose of enabling the insurers to advance their claim for
confidentiality to the Board.
        Now my understanding, Mr. Furey, is regarding -- we had some
discussions last week and there is an exhibit that's been filed from
Blakes, which is NBP 36.06.  And my understanding is that the insurers
will not be present today to advance their position and essentially I
think they are relying on the letter from Blakes to advance their
position regarding this public interest hearing?
  MR. FUREY:  Yes, I can confirm, Mr. Vice-Chair that I provided
notice to insurers of the date of this public interest hearing and
received written confirmation from insurers that they did not intend
to appear today, and would rely on their letter and the attached case.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Thank you.  So as a result of the claim for
confidentiality, there was two objections to the claim for
confidentiality.  There was one that was filed by the Public
Intervener, Ms. Black, on March 27th, and within her objection she
addresses the reasons for those objections.  And there was another
objection that was filed by JD Irving, Limited on March 27th by Mr.
Stewart and also in his objection notice he also addresses the reasons
for his client's objections to the claim for confidentiality.
        The Board also received a letter from Board Staff on March 26th,
which was addressed to the Chief Clerk.  And Board Staff -- or Ms.
Desmond, on behalf of Board Staff, was requesting that the minutes of
settlement and the release be filed with the Board in confidence.  And
in her letter, she sets out the reason for her request.
        So as mentioned earlier, the Board has set today's date to hear the
submissions by the parties regarding the claim for confidentiality and
any objections filed with the Board.  And so Mr. Richard -- Dr.
Richard, je ne sais pas si vous avez compris quoi ce que -- quoi ce
que j'ai -- quoique j'ai indiqué.  Y'a -- y'a -- puis vous allez
m'excuser si j'ai pas la traduction dans -- dans ma tête présentement.
Mais y'a -- y'a un réclamation de confidentialité qui y'a été émise
par -- par Énergie Nouveau-Brunswick concernant certains documents
relativement à un règlement qui -- qui on eu, qui est relatif à Point
Lepreau et puis ce matin, nous avons -- la semaine passée nous avons
fixe ce matin pour entendre les arguments relativement à cette --
cette demande-là.  Donc, y'a deux personnes qui sont objectées ou deux
parties qui se sont objectées a la -- a la -- the claim for
confidentiality.  J'peux -- la réclamation de confidentialité et puis
donc on va -- la raison d'être ici aujourd'hui pour -- pour cette
procédure ici c'est d'entendre les parties relativement à cette  -- à
cette demande-là qui a été faite par Énergie Nouveau-Brunswick.  Donc,
je ne sais pas si vous avez l'intention de déposer aucunes objections
ou est-ce que vous êtes juste ici pour peut-être faire vos arguments
relativement à l'objection -- à la réclamation de confidentialité.
  MR. RICHARD:  Oui -- non, je n'ai pas d'objection.  C'était --
j'étais juste ici pour voir un petit peu ou est-ce que on était rendu.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Parfait.  Donc, peut-être lorsqu'on va faire la
procédure, je vais vous demandez si vous avez -- un coup que vous
allez entendre les parties, si vous avez aucunes choses à indiquer a
-- la Commission, si oui, à ce moment-là vous pouvez nous indique
votre argument si vous n'avez.  Si non, mais on va procéder avec les
autres parties.
  MR, RICHARD:  Merci, Monsieur le vice-president.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Yes.  Okay.  Merci, Dr. Richard.  So, Mr. Furey, we
will start hearing from the submissions from your client and
afterwards we will hear the submissions from the other parties.


Page 3555

  MR. ERVIN:  Thank you.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  It's almost 10:45.  So I think we are going to
recess for 15 minutes and afterwards, Mr. Stewart, we will ask for
your submissions.
        Thank you.  So we will resume at 11:00 o'clock.  Thank you.
    (Recess)
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Stewart?
  MR. STEWART:  Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chair.  I will do my best to both
go through my presentation and not bounce around too much, but I just
wanted to begin by specifically responding to a couple of points
raised by Mr. Furey in his submission.
        The first is, with respect, we don't agree that the affidavit of
Darren Murphy, sworn 26th of March 2018 in this matter, provides the
information frankly that Mr. Furey suggested it did.  It certainly in
paragraph 4 provides that NB Power finalize the negotiation of the
settlement of the DSU claim and that there were minutes of settlement
executed with the insurers and that there is going to be a sum of
money paid in exchange for a full release, but that's all it says.  It
does not say, for example, and I am just paraphrasing a bit, and I
confirm that there are no conditions, or contingencies, or other
matters flowing out of that settlement.  It does not say that.  It
just says they are going to pay us a sum of money, and we are going to
provide them a release and we have executed minutes of settlement.
Clearly those minutes of settlement must say something.  And of
course, that's what the purpose of this hearing is all about, because
we don't know what they say at this stage.
        It would seem to me that the choice that faces the Board in this sort
of sub matter, and this motion that's before you today, is to
establish the, you know -- or to choose a level of confidentiality
that the Board will order in response to NB Power's motion.  And as we
are all familiar, that level of confidentiality provides a spectrum.
Right now the utility is at one end of the spectrum.  They want to
provide the Board, and the Board alone, and as I understand it, not
even Board Staff, but just the members of -- the three members of this
panel with the total settlement amount, that number and that's it.
And as is outlined in Mr. Furey's letter, which as I understand it,
Ms. Mitchell has conduct of.  So I would suggest that's one extreme
end of the spectrum.
        The other end, of course, is putting the three documents, the release
and the minutes of settlement, et cetera on the full public record.  I
guess posted on the Board's website in the normal course.  And the
challenge for you, I would submit, is balancing the public interest to
determine where upon that spectrum you should land with respect to
these documents.  Now as our notice of objection I think makes clear,
it's our submission that at a minimum the documents should be provided
to the formal interveners, or their authorized representatives who
have executed the confidentiality undertaking.  The confidentiality
undertaking would remind the Board, which is not in the Board's
standard form, but it was in a form advanced by the utility to their
satisfaction and which were executed by various people in this room,
including myself.
        And I am going to go both ways from that spot in the spectrum.  First
I will deal with, you know, further disclosure than that.  And
ultimately, Mr. Furey is correct, I don't represent the public in this
proceeding.  I represent my particular client, who has, you know,
become a formal intervener and executed the appropriate
confidentiality undertakings, and so I only frankly purport to speak
for myself and not for the public at large.  I leave that to Ms. Black
and/or the Board's consideration as to what further disclosure might
be appropriate.  So I don't take a position.
        I think it would be appropriate for me to say that part of our
submission in this proceeding is that this particular bit of
confidential information that has some commercial sensitivity attached
to it should be treated no differently than the Board treats other
confidential information.  And that by its nature would mean that it's
disclosed to certain interveners under certain circumstances and not
sort of divulged to the public at large.  And so I guess in terms of
indirectly we have a bit of a position in that regard.  But whether
you need broad public disclosure, I will leave that in the Board's
capable hands.
        And I will go the other way on the spectrum.  With respect, and as I
was buoyed to hear the questions from the panel to Mr. Furey earlier,
I don't imagine how the panel could possibly consider the consequences
of this settlement without understanding the terms under which that
settlement was reached.  So just the amount is not sufficient.  And
furthermore, and I think this equally applies to the next bump down
the spectrum, but this panel not only must set just and reasonable
rates, but it must do so in a fashion that the public has confidence
in.  In order for rates to be just and reasonable, the public has to
know that -- or I think has at least certainly appreciated in the past
and the legislation envisions that while it might be appropriate that
certain commercially sensitive information is not put on the public
record that ratepayers have the confidence of knowing that members of
the panel and the decision makers know the details of that
information.
        We have many examples in this proceeding alone.  For example, you
know, the utility has power purchase agreements worth hundreds of
millions of dollars over the life of those agreements.  And yet the
Board finds it appropriate that those contracts, and the commercially
sensitive nature of those contracts is not put on the public record.
But clearly the public and ratepayers would expect that the Board
itself has viewed those agreements and knows the financial details of
those agreements as part of the process that it goes through in
setting rates in this proceeding.
        I think that sentiment is equally true when we consider what's in the
public or in the ratepayers' interest in terms of what happens in this
proceeding and the fact that we hold public hearings of this nature to
assist the Board in coming to conclusions on what just and reasonable
rates for the utility might be.
        So, you know, the system -- we have been embarked in this process for
weeks, almost months now to -- and certainly since the application was
filed for six months now.  It would seem to me that the public has a
right to expect that the panel does not simply receive information
directly that's unknown or untested by participants in this hearing.
Not only is there transparency, you know, from the Board's perspective
wanting to be transparent to the public that it serves, but ratepayers
and the public have -- even if they acknowledge that they may not have
a right, or that it's not in their best interest for commercially
sensitive information to be broadcast broadly publicly.  They have the
right to expect that those parties, not the least of whom is the
Public Intervener, who sits behind me and Board Staff has the
opportunity to review that information on a confidential basis and has
tested that information and how it will translate into their rates.
        So I do agree with Mr. Furey that the Board does need to embark on a
balancing exercise and to find the appropriate balance.  And I will
come back to it in the end of my submissions, but we would suggest
that the balance we suggest, or where the balance -- or a fair and
appropriate balance will lead you frankly is exactly where it leads
you in all of the other thousands and thousands of pages of
commercially sensitive information that is part of the record of this
proceeding and that it be received by the Board in confidence, that
the Board must -- and I would submit indeed has an obligation in the
process of setting just and reasonable rates to view these minutes of
settlement and satisfy itself what's there and that the Board provide
an opportunity as much as possible, and we would submit as much as
possible would be in the same way that that other commercially
sensitive information is tested by the interveners, that it be
provided to the interveners or their representatives who have executed
the confidentiality undertaking.
        So a word, if I may, about the so-called settlement privilege that
was raised by the insurers who are apparently a party to these minutes
of settlement and Mr. Furey this morning.  Settlement privileges, of
course, not new.  I think in my experience, and way too many years of
practicing law, the two things that clients seem to understand the
easiest when we talk about evidentiary privileges, solicitor/client
privilege, or lawyer/client privilege and sort of off the record, as
it were, settlement negotiations and the need to protect those kinds
of things.  So some of the privilege is real.  And clearly, I would
agree with Mr. Furey that the case law indicates that it applies not
only to negotiations which didn't bear fruit but also to a settlement
reached at the end of the day.  But just like every legal privilege,
there are exceptions.  And just like every legal privilege, it can be
waived.  And frankly, it may be the proverbial six of one and half a
dozen of the other, or it may be that the two over -- the two
principles sort of overlapped, but we would submit that either these
minutes of settlement fall within an exception to that privilege or
they have been effectively waived by the parties.  And I will address
the waiver first.
        And that really comes to the point that was made in our notice of
objection, and as was discussed by Mr. Furey at some length this
morning in the -- sorry, in the terms of the settlement agreement
itself that's been made -- that forms I guess appendix A to Mr.
Murphy's affidavit of March 26th 2018.  So if we turn to that, on the
face of this agreement, the parties acknowledge when there will be
potential changes to their obligation to keep the settlement
confidential.  And even at the beginning of, you know, there is an A
and B at the top of the page, and B is as required by law or by the
rules of policy of any regulatory authority, stock exchange or by any
governmental policy.  So on its face, the parties acknowledge that
yes, as between us we will keep this confidential, and yes, because
there are other potential parties who might be responsible to make
good in other portion of this loss, we will keep it confidential from
them, but we expressly acknowledge in this agreement right from the
get go that the terms of this settlement and these minutes of
settlement may be disclosed and won't be confidential, because it's an
exception, under or by the rules or policies of a regulatory authority
including, of course, yourselves.
        And further down the page, you know, there is a specific reference to
the Electricity Act and the Energy and Utilities Board Act, and that
the EUB has authority to compel disclosure of documentation relevant
to the proceedings under the Act, which documentation may become
public, subject to rules and procedures, as they may relate to
confidentiality.  And the insurers acknowledge that NB Power may be
required to disclose release of the settlement funds, which they have,
and may be requested and in course of any regulatory proceeding to
disclose or otherwise provide access to these minutes or any portion
thereof.
        So on the face of the agreement, the parties acknowledged, yeah, well
we are going to try and keep if confidential, but we acknowledge this
might happen.  So with respect, it would -- we would submit that you
can't then hide behind a settlement privilege and say well this can't
happen.  And that that agreement between the parties, and as put
before the Board in the evidence of Mr. Murphy must constitute at
least a limited waiver of the settlement privilege.  And having been
waived, it's not applicable and can't be used to limit disclosure of
the minutes of settlement under whatever terms and conditions the
Board feels appropriate in the public interest.  But the strict legal
privilege, I would submit, is gone.
        The insurers that Mr. Furey made reference to, of course, the -- I
guess now a five year old decision of the Supreme Court of Canada, the
Sable Offshore Energy case, and in the headnote of that case, is the
sort of summary at the outset, the decision provides, as with other
class privileges there are exceptions, and I will get into a couple of
exceptions in a moment, which I believe are applicable.  And the court
is also clear, I would submit, not to limit those exceptions, but to
create an open class of exceptions provided that the -- but it does
set out a task that a defendant must show that on balance a competing
public interest outweighs the public interest encouraging settlement.
So on the balance -- I would submit on the balance of probabilities,
we are going to suggest a couple of exceptions and suggest that this
circumstance falls within them.
        And again, the points will sort of reflect in both ways.  And it's
not a coincidence that they are sort of equally applicable.  So they
would turn on the Board's obligation under Section 34 of the Act to --
in any -- with any confidential information that's brought before it,
to weigh the public interest.  And it's not a coincidence that
exceptions to this legal privilege also require the public interest to
tip the scales, as it were, in a certain fashion.  The rationale
behind those two things, I would submit, are largely the same.
        I would also think it’s important to point out that in that Sable
Offshore Energy case, which is sort of recounted within the decision,
but in the very next line or two of the headnote where it reads the
non-settling defendants have received all the non-financial terms of
the Pierringer Agreements.  They have access to all the relevant
documents and other evidence that was in the settling defendant's
possession.  So on the facts of that particular case, two things are
important.  One, it was the co-defendants to the action.  So that
would be tantamount as if AECL was here this morning asking for
disclosure of this agreement and trying to use the regulatory process
to somehow get access to it.  I think that would involve a completely
different set of considerations.  So that's the context of this
decision of the Supreme Court of Canada.
        Furthermore, they were talking about, you know, there had been
disclosure of the terms of the agreement, of the settlement that was
reached, because clearly at some point someone felt that that couldn't
be withheld, it was only the dollar amount that was being held in
that.
        So a word or two about exceptions and I do have a case, and I have --
and I am just going to briefly refer the court to it and I have copies
to file with the court.  But there are at least two exceptions
recognized in the juris prudence.  One, and it's actually in a
decision which pre-dates Sable Offshore, and there is a discussion of
the decision in there is the Dos Santos Sun Life Assurance, B.C. Court
of Appeal case, which excluded the settlement privilege to ensure that
the plaintiff was not overcompensated by receiving an indemnity from
his insurer.  In other words, the court recognized that it may be
appropriate to provide -- or to direct disclosure of a settlement, or
at least limited portions of a settlement to ensure that the party who
has received the funds is not going to be unjustly overcompensated.
And with respect, I would suggest that that has applicability in this
situation as well.  Either in terms of your weight of the -- assessing
the weight of the -- the balancing the weight of the public interest
and disclosure under Section 34 or whether also again it falls within
an exception to the settlement privilege as set out in the
jurisprudence.  It would seem to me that the public and the ratepayers
want to ensure that there is nothing in these terms of settlement that
would suggest that, and as it is reflected in the rates that the
ratepayers will receive, that there is not -- that there is no
overcompensation or that in fact the ratepayers are effectively
getting their due, so to speak.
        Now again whether that exception would then apply to broad public
disclosure, I would leave in your capable hands.  But whether it's
balancing the public interest generally, or whether it falls within
one of these exceptions, I think both of those is true.  And for the
record, the case that I have in front of me is Jacques Abenaim and Her
Majesty the Queen and Konica Minolta Business Solutions (Canada) Ltd.
And it's a 2015 decision of the Tax Court of Canada.  And ever so
briefly, in that case there was a settlement agreement.  And as a
result of the settlement agreement, there were tax consequences.  And
so the issue before the Tax Court was what taxes are owing as a result
of receipt of the settlement.  And in that particular case, the
taxpayer wanted to bring forward the terms of the settlement, the
minutes of settlement, for the purposes of trying to convince Revenue
Canada or Canada Revenue Agency as to how the receipt of the
settlement fund should be treated for taxation purposes.  And the
Minister said no, that's privileged.  They shouldn't be allowed to
bring it forward.  And in the end, the Tax Court found that an
exception applied, and the exception was that again we are outside of
that more typical realm where the privilege would apply where you have
a co-defendant wanting to know settlement information, which may be
used to their advantage, and that it was in the public interest to
protect the integrity of Canada's tax revenues and the tax system that
either party, be it the Minister of Revenue or a taxpayer couldn't
rely on the privilege to keep away from a fair assessment of what tax
would be owing as a result.
         And I would submit that that circumstance is analogous to the
situation that you have before you.  This Board is not involved in, I
believe, at least not in this proceeding, an assessment of this
settlement, not involved in the process of pursuing claims that the
utility is pursuing.  But the Board has a separate obligation to set
just and reasonable rates for the utility and this settlement and the
terms of the settlement directly relate to that.  It cannot be said
that these terms of settlement are not relevant to the rates that you
are going to set in this proceeding.  Clearly, they are directly and
crucially relevant.  Furthermore, and I guess we don't know what the
number is.  We don't know if the number is 3 million or 300 million,
but clearly the number must be material, because the utility has
sought to amend its whole rate case and effectively this process has
been going on for six months or eight months now, to fundamentally
change how much of an increase they are asking for in the current
financial context of this utility.  So it is relevant and it is
material to the decision that you need to make.
        And so by either of those two exceptions, I would suggest that the
so-called settlement privilege, if it's not outright waived -- waived
in the first instance is not applicable and should not stand in the
way of this Board performing what would otherwise then be a fairly
routine, I would submit, Section 34 analysis of what's in the public
interest in terms of the disclosure of this particular information.
        So if I could try to summarize our position then.  One, the
settlement privilege provisions either have been waived or do not
apply, because one of the two exceptions that I have just referenced
you to are applicable.  Two, the evidence is relevant or the minutes
of settlement are relevant and material.  Three, the Board has -- the
Board's obligation to establish just and reasonable rates in a way
that's both transparent and acceptable to the public and ratepayers
and in accordance with the mandate given to the Board, requires the
Board to have access to this information and this documentation.  I
don't know how you could ever do it otherwise.  Equally, at some
point, apparently in two days, we will have evidence as how the
utility intends to treat the settlement amount.  And I will take issue
with Mr. Furey's earlier suggestion that well, you don't need to know
the amount to, you know, talk about the proper accounting and
treatment of the settlement.  With respect, I object to that most
strongly.  And again, I am going to use a broad scope to make the
point, but if this is a $3 million settlement, the appropriate
treatment of that settlement amount could and almost certainly would
be fundamentally different than if it's a $300 million settlement.
And how we could take a position, and how the Board could take I guess
maybe the Board would know the total number, but how interveners would
be able to attest -- test or speak to the proposed treatment of the
settlement fund by the utility without knowing what that is and
whether there are any conditions attached to it, frankly is not
sensible.
         That's why we are here.  We have no desire to otherwise to have
commercially sensitive information disclosed to us, but this
information is material to this rate case.  Having said that, we do
recognize, and as Mr. Furey said earlier, you know, to his credit he
wanted the utility to have a -- get a little credit here about how
they have been transparent and even if information provided to
interveners or the Board is treated in a confidential basis, there
hasn't been much objection to that.  Well, you know, but the opposite
is also true.  I think the interveners in this proceeding have been
content largely with the level of confidentiality that has been
proposed by the utility.  We haven't, you know, sought to put
information on the public record or get broader disclosure of
information in the utility's hand than was ultimately necessary for us
to be able to speak to or take a position with respect to the rates
which may be owing in this proceeding and to test NB Power's case.
        So all of which to say when you ring out the towel, what you end up
with is commercially sensitive information with respect to the receipt
of money by the utility that's contained in a contract with a third
party.  And when the Vice-Chair asked Mr. Furey that question, what's
different, and I think he did a fine job, or as best he could to try
and come up with a difference, Mr. Furey referenced you to, you know,
the settlement privilege, which we submit simply doesn't apply for all
the reasons I have talked about over the last little bit, or it's
different facts.  But ultimately in terms of what's in the public
interest, it's all it is.  It's another document with commercially
sensitive information.  And I haven't heard any reason or any basis
why the panel should depart with how it has -- and I believe the
wording we used in our notice of objection was with the myriad of
other virtually identical, for these purposes anyway, information that
formed the record -- formed part of the record in this proceeding.
There is no difference.  And an attempt to roll out the privilege is
creating a difference, well fine, but it just doesn't hold.  Subject
to any questions, those are my submissions.  Thank you.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Ervin?
  MR. ERVIN:  The portion of your argument concerning the waiver of
the privilege on the basis of what we saw in Mr. Murphy's affidavit,
Mr. Stewart, I'm having a hard time understanding how that schedule
can amount to a waiver, where it really in my view sets out terms and
conditions that are pretty standard in any confidentiality agreement.
And I think it seems to me at least that it represents an
acknowledgement and a simple acknowledgement by NB Power that there
are certain things outside of its control, such as regulatory fiat.
Can you comment on that?
  MR. STEWART:  I will certainly do my best.  First off again this
isn't merely a statement by NB Power, with respect, it forms part of
the agreement between the parties.  So they have agreed to these
provisions.
        And what I think is different about this than a standard of agreement
-- and frankly I have been there, I have negotiated contracts with a
public -- or assisted clients in negotiating contracts with a public
utility, and you know that you are dealing with frankly a different
animal, if I can use that expression.  And the whole nature of the
utility's claim for keeping this information -- or these minutes away
from this proceeding is that they have agreed to a third party that
they will do that.
        But when you look at what they have agreed to, you know, the insurers
further acknowledge that NB Power's required -- excuse me -- that NB
Power may be requested in the course of a regulatory proceeding to
disclose or otherwise provide access to these minutes or any portion
thereof or any, quote/unquote, confidential matters.  So that's what
the insurers to this agreement agreed to.  We agree and we acknowledge
that you may be required to disclose these, subject to whatever the
Board orders in a proceeding just like this.
        So if I'm agreeing that this information which might otherwise be
privileged, can and arguably might be disclosed subject to a decision
of a regulator, then I have stepped around my privilege.
        In the Sable case the settlement was a settlement of  legal claim.
They were plaintiff, they settled with a portion of the defendants.
They didn't then go on to agree that there were exceptions when the
other defendants might learn the information, and they were able to
rely on their privilege.  So if I settle a case with someone and agree
that they -- you know, subject to the decision of someone, a regulator
in this case, may be required to get all of this document and receive
all the confidential information, then it seems to me that that is
tantamount to waiving my privilege.
        And it's either that -- it's either an outright waiver or it's an
acknowledgement frankly that disclosure in this context would serve as
an exception.  It seems to me you can't have your legal cake and eat
it too.  You can't agree and acknowledge that disclosure may very well
happen in a given set of circumstances and then roll out a claim for
privilege which would effectively bar that which you have just
acknowledged could very well happen.
        And nowhere in this confidentiality provision does the insurer say,
and we stand on our settlement privilege rights.  They have as part of
this settlement, again knowing the animal they are dealing with, they
are negotiating with a public utility, and what that means, they
acknowledged in the agreement, and I'm sure the utility to its credit
wanted to make sure that that was very clear as part of the terms of
settlement, that this kind of disclosure could very well happen.  And
so you can't claim privilege at the same time you acknowledge that it
very well could happen.
  MR. ERVIN:  It does seem to me that even in the absence of that
language in the schedule that NB Power would be in the same position
that if this Board were to require disclosure NB Power would be
required to comply with that order.
        Isn't that language just an acknowledgement of that fact and making
it clear to all parties that that's the position that NB Power would
be in, in any event?
  MR. STEWART:  Yes.  But -- yes, it is, and to the utility's credit
they want to make sure that the other party to their settlement is
well aware and has formally acknowledged the statutory obligations and
the regulatory environment within which it as a public utility must
operate.  So good on them.
        But those obligations would exist on NB Power whether they put it in
this appendix or not.
        But by coming to an arrangement like this with a public utility the
insurers I would submit have to acknowledge, and they did, that this
is a different circumstance.  They are dealing with a regulated entity
and these minutes of settlement may very well be subject to some level
of disclosure in a regulatory proceeding, in the same way that an
entity which enters into a power purchase agreement with the utility,
which has very, you know, clear confidential language in it, knows
that it's contracting with a public utility and at least there be a
certain level of disclosure of this agreement as part of a rate case
for example.
        And I'm not saying that the language adds anything new.  It is simply
evidence that by coming to this agreement with a regulated entity, the
insurers are effectively acknowledging that there are limits to their
settlement privilege claim.
  MR. ERVIN:  I think the first case that you mentioned -- was it Dos
Santos, I believe?
  MR. STEWART:  Dos Santos, yes.
  MR. ERVIN:  Dos Santos case with the -- to ensure that the party is
not over-compensated, that was -- I think that was the issue in that
case, if I'm correct?
  MR. STEWART:  That's correct.
  MR. ERVIN:  It raises in my mind a question of whether this Board is
-- part of the jurisdiction of this Board, whether it is to assess the
reasonableness of the settlement, because I don't see that as being
part of our jurisdiction in these circumstances.
        The settlement has been made between the parties to a litigation.
Whether the Board at this point would have jurisdiction to decide
whether or not that was a reasonable settlement, I just fail to see
the -- how that case would be analogous to what we are faced with
here?
  MR. STEWART:  Well -- and I will do my best. And again at least
within the scope of this motion -- I'm not prepared to argue what the
scope of the Board's jurisdiction is, but it says reasonableness -- as
I say I'm not going to go there today, as it were.  I'm here simply
advocating for limited release of some confidential information to the
Board and certain parties in this proceeding.  So that's all of my ask
in this matter.
        But here is how I think the terms of the settlement and the
settlement -- you know, why I think that exception might apply, is
because again it would seem now that in this proceeding, the Board is
going to need to decide how these settlement funds are treated and
over potentially an extended period of time.  And it seems to me this
is, as Mr. Furey pointed out, good news for the ratepayers and good
news -- ratepayers are going to want to ensure that they get their
fair credit, their fair benefit of this settlement that was reached,
and that the utility doesn't say, yes, we received a settlement of X
and how that flows down to you ratepayer, we are going to make sure
that you get full and appropriate credit for that.  That's going to be
an issue in the rest of this proceeding.
        And so again, I'm not necessarily suggesting anything untoward from
the utility, just so I'm clear.  But answering that question of
whether or not the ratepayers are getting the proper benefit from --
and the different classes of ratepayers are getting the proper benefit
of this settlement over an appropriate period of time, and which
ratepayers do, is it 10 years, is it 28 years, you know, those
questions are likely to be debated.  And so there is a risk that in
effect in this sort of public utility context that there might be
over-compensation, not in the classic sort of sense of a plaintiff
pursuing a claim, but there is an element of potential
overcompensation, or maybe put the other way, under-compensation of
ratepayers or a class of ratepayers if the settlement isn't treated
properly.  So I think that's going to be an issue in this proceeding.
        And therefore that evidence and down to a particular document like
the minutes of settlement need to be treated in that fashion.  There
is a risk of that if we don't know.  If we don't know how much the
settlement is how do we -- how do we as Intervenors and ratepayers
understand whether or not we are getting our proper benefit and the
utility is not being over-compensated?
  MR. ERVIN:  The second case you mentioned I think was Jacques and
Minolta, was it?
  MR. STEWART:  Yes.  It's Jacques --
  MR. ERVIN:  Jacques.
  MR. STEWART:  -- and forgive me, I'm not sure I'm pronouncing it --
but it's Abenaim -- and I have copies here for the Board as well.
  MR. ERVIN:  The -- and I don't -- I'm not familiar with all of the
facts of that case and the outcome, but was the outcome such that it
was the Minister of National Revenue who received the confidential
information about the amount of the settlement in order for the
minister to make a proper tax assessment based on that?
  MR. STEWART:  No.  And I will just review the facts quickly just to
make sure, because I did reference the case.
        The matter was being -- so taxpayer filed a return, the minister
treats certain of the taxpayer's income, or the settlement proceeds
for taxation purposes, in a certain way.  Taxpayer doesn't like it,
appeals to the tax court.  So this was a motion before the tax court.
The taxpayer wanted to say here are the terms of my settlement, the
settlement was so much general damages, so much loss of income, so
much this, so much that, and so that should be used by the department
and I'm advocating as evidence before you Tax Court Judge as to how
much taxes you are going to rule that I owe.
        And the department, or the minister, who is the respondent to the tax
appeal, says no, that's privileged.  It is a class privilege, as Mr.
Furey would tell you.  And I'm going to    stand on the privilege and
I don't want that admissible before the tax court.  And the tax court
recognizes that, you know, there is -- you know, a settlement and all
that sort of thing.  But here we are removed from that and so I'm
deciding whether an exception to that privilege should be made in the
purposes of determining how much tax should be paid on the settlement.
And the court rules that it's in the public interest, both in the
public as taxpayers and then the tax assessment process, that the
privilege -- that an exception to the privilege be carved out for
those purposes, and then I think they go on to have an in-camera
hearing before the tax board dealing with the information.
        So our submission was that in the same context here, you are not
dealing with the settlement or the claims or the negotiations, you are
at sort of one step removed in a collateral process involving one of
the parties.  In the same way the tax court was setting -- determining
how much taxes they owed, you are going to determine what their rates
that they charge customers should owe, but the settlement is integral
to that.  And so use of -- or disclosure of that information on a
limited basis before the tax court is analogous to it being disclosed
in a limited basis before this regulatory proceeding.
  MR. ERVIN:  And I think your position on disclosure is such that any
intervener who files an undertaking -- a confidentiality undertaking
should have access to the information and the documents in question,
is that correct?
  MR. STEWART:  That is correct.  At least, yes.
  MR. ERVIN:  The undertaking itself -- and if the undertaking that
your client signs or you sign on behalf of your client, if for some
reason the information is disclosed by your client, in breach of the
undertaking, I presume that there would be consequences to your client
for that breach under the undertaking?  And I looked at the
undertaking the other day but it does acknowledge that there would be
certain consequences as a result of that.
  MR. STEWART:  Yes.
  MR. ERVIN:  And certainly your client would be in a position to
indemnify for any breach along those lines.
        My question to you is if there are unrepresented interveners who were
to sign an undertaking on that basis who would not be in a position to
indemnify, would that be a justifiable concern of NB Power's to
release that information even on an undertaking by somebody who may
not be in a position to indemnify?
  MR. STEWART:  Perhaps.  I mean, I think it would be hard to deny the
common sense of that, to a certain extent.  Although I have to say
that I would take any concern along those lines with a bit of a grain
of salt because if that was truly a concern, it would have been a
concern with respect to all of the other confidential information
that's provided.
        I mean, the -- in phase 1 of this proceeding, you know, there was no
restriction on release of the terms of the AMI contract, for example,
or the draft AMI contract.  Or there is disclosure of the power
purchase agreements.  You know, knowing the prices of those power
purchase agreements is incredibly valuable commercial information, the
disclosure of which, you know, could cause a loss to the utility.  But
the utility was not concerned in that context.  And so I would take it
with a grain of salt if they raised that concern now, you know,
hundreds of millions of dollars is hundreds of millions of dollars,
whether it's for this agreement or for that agreement.  But I do
acknowledge in principle the need that there only be as much
disclosure as is necessary.  And if the Board felt that in the public
interest -- I know Mr. Furey raised for example only formal
interveners that have been involved in this part of the proceeding.
And I can see that.  The only concern I have with that is, you know,
you have parties who are involved in this proceeding because they
understand the proceeding to be a certain thing, you know, a rate case
seeking an average 2 percent.  And so for example Enbridge Gas New
Brunswick is the obvious example, they were involved in phase 1,
haven't been involved in phase 2, but they might very well want to
know the information because now the application is going to be
materially different.  Maybe they won't care.  But sure, I don't think
there is anything wrong in principle with the Board, given the
circumstances, being -- I won't say imaginative, but being particular
who gets to understand what information, on what basis.  As long as
that's fair and as long as it's typical with what has been done in the
past.
  MR. ERVIN:  And my final question, Mr. Stewart, is in a scenario
where the Board receives all of the documents on a confidential basis
and the interveners and indeed the rest of the public would see
perhaps only a redacted version of that, knowing that the Board's role
is to ensure the public interest and fairness and reasonableness in
how the proceeds of settlement are applied in case of rates, do you
see any real prejudice to your client in that scenario?
  MR. STEWART:  And sorry, just so I am clear, do I see prejudice to
my client if my client does not know the settlement amounts and does
not have an opportunity to view the minutes of settlement?
  MR. ERVIN:  That your client would maybe at most have a redacted
version of the documents in question?
  MR. STEWART:  Yes, I do see a prejudice, because -- not that we
don't necessarily have faith in the Panel, but if I didn't see a
prejudice in that, then we would not have participated in this
proceeding.  I mean, with respect, I think it's a bit of a slippery
slope but I think we have to consider the integrity of this process.
        To suggest that oh, now we have information which is material to the
rate application that is commercially sensitive, we don't think it's
necessary for the formal interveners to see that and just sort of
trust us and the Board.  If that were the case, we wouldn't hold this
hearing at all because then I would just say to my client, well, you
know, the utility has filed information and we will -- you know, the
Board will do its best and that's great.
        Frankly, both your mandate, I would submit, and the public and
ratepayers have expectations that not only is material provided to you
but material is tested before you.  And if that information isn't
provided then we are unable to attest it -- unable to test it.  And
that's what we do here.  We test the information and the evidence
that's provided by the utility in support of its application either
through cross examination or questioning of the utility itself
directly and/or the provision of evidence of our own.  And that
process has real value.
        And I would submit that both my particular client and other
participants in this proceeding and ratepayers as a whole would be
prejudiced if that were the case.
  MR. ERVIN:  Thank you.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  A few questions, Mr. Stewart.  You were talking
about the evidence needs to be tested in this proceeding.
        I'm wondering if this -- and I have been making these comments
throughout the hearing for the past 22 days that we are at a point now
where it's -- the proceeding in its nature has been long and I'm
wondering if this is the proper proceeding to test this information or
should it be tested in a separate proceeding?
  MR. STEWART:  Well I have to say, Mr. Vice-Chair, that I share those
sentiments, but I will say this.  I think in a large measure that ship
has sailed when the utility came forward for its motion to amend its
evidence in this proceeding to bring this in, and that motion -- that
order was made by the Board or that motion was approved by the Board
then here we are.  I can't swear I said this but if I didn't say it
out loud I would have intended to indicate that while we supported the
motion we did so somewhat reluctantly or with a certain level of
frustration that, you know, now because of this, we are going to yet
potentially have even a more extended provision and, you know, new
material evidence at this late date.  But I think that we now have --
I mean, we supported it because ultimately -- and again to the
utility's credit, they don't want to -- apparently don't want to
charge their ratepayers any more than they have to, and they feel that
this is a material change that will lower rates.  And despite the fact
we are frustrated about how this has unfolded and how it will extend
this proceeding, ultimately I view it as a necessary evil to get to
the rates the utility wants to charge, and if they are lower than what
they have been submitting, here we are.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Furey talked about somewhat of an independent
expert to review these documents.  Can I have what is your client's
view regarding this?
  MR. STEWART:  Sure.  I don't think we have any objection to that.
But I think Mr. Furey was bringing it forward as only that.  And then
that leaves me within the same response that I gave to Mr. Ervin's
question just a few moments ago.  Again these hearings are not simply
the applicant files its evidence and the Board retains an independent
expert and reviews it and then you make a decision.
        The hearing is to provide ratepayers who have potentially a
particular interest and/or the public at large to test that evidence.
And with respect, I think ratepayers would be prejudiced, both my
client and others, and the integrity of the process would be brought
in to disrepute a bit I think if simply the only testing that went on
was something which is material enough to change this application in
the way that we -- that apparently it will, just that we hire an
independent expert and they do a review, you know.  Again, if it was a
$3 million change, maybe, but I don't know.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  My last question, Mr. Stewart, is there was -- you
discussed about this spectrum at one end to the other end.  So at one
end I would -- I think what you said is --
  MR. STEWART:  Where we are now.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  -- non-disclosure and where -- and at the other end
is essentially where there is full disclosure.
        Can I have what your views are?  What is the harm to the utility --
well I think I understand what the harm is regarding -- there is no
harm if we are at the end of the spectrum where we are at right now,
but what is the harm to the utility if there is full disclosure?
  MR. STEWART:  Well I'm a little hesitant to make the utility's case,
but we did address it in our notice of objection.
        I think the potential harm is the potential harm that would be
applicable with all the other confidential information that's filed in
this case, that both representing a ratepayer and just frankly common
sense would suggest that there is a potential harm to ratepayers if
somehow disclosure of this settlement were made broadly public and
that prejudiced the utility's ability to reach or conclude it -- reach
a settlement in the other portion of its claim, because that might be,
well money out the door, so to speak, that the utility doesn't get and
therefore ratepayers don't get the benefit of.  So I think that's a
legitimate consideration.
        And in the same exact way that we don't oppose for example, you know,
confidentiality being attached to the power purchase agreements,
because we believe that ultimately it's in -- except under very
limited circumstances, at a different spot in the spectrum because we
acknowledge that again, it's a balancing act, Mr. Furey and I, I
think, agree on that point, that that's a fair balance, a fair spot to
land on the spectrum, because if the price that is paid under those
agreements were made public, it's going to be harder of course for the
utility to negotiate its next deal or its next power purchase
agreement.  So -- and getting the best price or paying as least as
possible, I suppose is good for the ratepayers.
        And so the potential harm to NB Power if this were made broadly
public, I can only take them at their word that they are concerned
that it might have a negative impact on their ability to either settle
or pursue the rest of their claim.  And if that negative -- that
negative impact is probably going to flow back to ratepayers.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Stewart.  It's noon time.  So we are
going to break for lunch.
        And, Mr. Stoll, are you going to have any submissions?
  MR. STOLL:  I was not going to make any submissions, sir.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  And so we will resume with Ms. Black once we
come back from lunch.  And we are going to resume at 1:05.  Thank you.
    (Recess - 12:05 p.m. - 1:05 p.m.)
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Ms. Black?
  MS. BLACK:  Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chair.  I will begin my submissions
at the same place that Mr. Furey did this morning and that's at
Section 34 of the EUB Act.  And as Mr. Furey predicted, I take no
issue with the notion that the information that's under discussion
today is by its nature confidential.  And the issue for the Board is
to determine whether it is necessary in the public interest to
disclose -- to allow disclosure or require disclosure of that
information somewhere along that spectrum that Mr. Stewart spoke about
earlier today.
        To circle back to another one of Mr. Furey's initial comments, I
think it's clear in my written notice of objection that I am not
advocating for full public disclosure of the settlement terms today.
I am of the strong view that doing so would work contrary to the
public interest for precisely the reasons that Mr. Furey outlined that
it could put at risk NB Power's ability to achieve a favourable
disposition of upcoming claims related to this matter.
        So in my view, I think the place on the spectrum that it's reasonable
to discuss today is that middle ground, that limited disclosure to
parties to this proceeding who have executed confidentiality
undertakings.  And that leads to the question of whether that level of
disclosure is necessary in the public interest.  And Mr. Stewart
covered this ground quite extensively, so I don't purport to repeat
the points he made in that detail.  But I would submit, as he did,
that the Board's ability to fulfil its mandate to set just and
reasonable rates depends on the mechanisms of the hearing process
being able to play out as they are intended to do.  As Mr. Stewart
pointed out, there is a reason why interveners intervene in these
processes and that is to ensure that the information that the Board
has before it at the time the Board makes its decision is as well
tested, as fulsome and is fully reviewed as possible.
        So for the benefit of the process and ensuring that the process
itself is as robust as it can be, in my view, this limited disclosure
must be allowed in order to properly test the evidence for the benefit
of the Board. And Mr. Furey suggested that perhaps a substitution -- a
substitute, or an alternate approach of having the Board engage an
independent expert could fulfil that function in a different way, but
I have trouble understanding how disclosing the information to an
independent expert and to the Board is any less risky than disclosing
it to the limited number of interveners who have executed
confidentiality undertakings.
        And that leads me to my fundamental issue in this application, in
this proceeding today, which is as Mr. Stewart also pointed out, I am
having trouble distinguishing a difference between this particular
type of confidentiality claim and any other that has been put before
the Board in the past.  And I recognize that Mr. Furey offered a
couple of differences, one of which is that NB Power's hands are tied
in this circumstance by the agreement that they have entered into.
They aren't at liberty to voluntarily offer disclosure of this
information.  And then the other difference, as we talked about
extensively already, is this claim for privilege by the insurers and
by NB Power.
        So I will move on to say a few things about the privilege issue and
my comments will track similar to Mr. Stewart's as well, to the extent
that the settlement privilege outlined by the insurers in the letter
from Blakes that was submitted to the Board applies on a prima facie
basis, it is my view that one of two things is going, either the
public interest exception applies or -- and/or the parties to those
minutes of settlement have waived their privilege at least for the
limited purposes contemplated by this proceeding.
         And I will start by talking about the exception, the public interest
exception to settlement privilege.  Mr. Furey characterized the issue
as to whether this exception applies as depending on whether the
public interest in allowing disclosure outweighs the public interest
in encouraging settlement or not discouraging parties to settle in
proceedings.  And I appreciate and agree that that's the way the test
is characterized in the decision that was submitted to the Board.
However, in this particular factual situation that we have, it's not
quite that clear cut in that allowing disclosure in this proceeding on
the limited basis that's contemplated to parties who have signed the
confidentiality undertaking, at most serves to increase the risk that
perhaps the public interest in encouraging settlement could be chilled
somewhat if that disclosure somehow led to parties to the litigation
becoming aware of the settlement amount or other settlement terms.
        And the submission from Blakes actually acknowledges this in this
second paragraph and I will just read it out.  Perhaps we don't need
to put it on the screen, but the second paragraph halfway through
says, any disclosure of the terms set out in the minutes of settlement
and release would increase the likelihood of AECL becoming informed
and that would seriously prejudice insurers in the future attempt to
reach a settlement with AECL.  And so it's not an either/or situation.
It's not a zero sum situation that we have before us in doing that
balancing act of weighing the public interest, because allowing the
limited disclosure to parties in this proceeding who have signed a
confidentiality undertaking does not automatically lead to the result
that AECL would become informed of those terms.  And I submit because
of that difference, or because of that nuance, it's an easier
balancing act to conduct.
        And finally on the point of waiver privilege, I would agree with Mr.
Stewart that the act by NB Power and the insurers of entering into the
settlement agreement constitutes a waiver of the settlement privilege
at least for the limited purpose contemplated under the minutes of
settlement, particularly the confidentiality provisions that we have
available to us to review.  And in support of that assertion, I would
offer to the Board the decision -- and I have copies here.  I haven't
yet submitted them to the Chief Clerk.  The decision in R.V. Nestle
Canada and that admittedly is a lower court decision of the Ontario
Superior Court of Justice.  The citation is 2015 Ontario Judgments No.
539.  And that was a case that came after the Sable Offshore Energy
decision of the Supreme Court of Canada and refers to it in a context
of a criminal proceeding under the Competition Act where certain
parties were involved in a price fixing scheme and one of those
parties is being prosecuted and other third parties had entered into
an immunity agreement with the Crown or an agreement to have more
lenient sentences with the Crown.  And there was an issue as to
whether some of the information obtained by those third parties should
be disclosed in the criminal proceeding to the accused and the Crown
was looking for directions from the court.  And even though in that
case the court determined first that settlement privilege didn't apply
and secondly, if it did apply that the exception, the public interest
exception that we have discussed, applies.  In the alternative
alternative, the court had said if we are wrong about all these
things, then in the court's view, waiver of privilege applied on a
similar basis, on the basis that by executing the immunity agreement,
those third parties who are now claiming privilege over that
information had waived that privilege because the immunity agreement
said that that information could be disclosed as required by law and
set out a few types of ways, methods by which that information could
be disclosed as required by law.
        So in my view, even though the context factually is quite different
here, that notion of a contractual acknowledgement of the probability
that that information could be disclosed is similar in this case.  And
because of that, even if in this case the exception to settlement
privilege doesn't apply, which in my view it does, the alternative is
that that privilege has been waived by the parties at least for these
purposes that are contemplated here, because they were described in
detail in the confidentiality provisions of the minutes of settlement.
So those are my submissions subject to any questions.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Ms. Black, for your submissions.  And Dr.
Richard, je crois que vous avez indiqué lorsqu'on a commencé les -- la
procédure ce matin que vous avez pas de commentaires à faire?  J'peux
comprendre que vous n'avez à faire certains commentaires.
  MR. RICHARD:  Oui, oui.  Si vous me le permettez.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  C'est une -- juste pour vous informer, juste
peut-être pour le dossier, ordinairement c'est -- on -- on laisse aux
parties qu'on faites objections à faire des soumissions, mais je vous
indiquais ce matin que -- qu'on la Commission vous accorderai ce
privilège-là, donc on va entendre votre -- votre soumission
relativement à la demande des traitement confidentiel même-si vous
avez pas soumis votre -- votre objection dans le -- dans la procédure.
Donc vous êtes permis de faire vos commentaires si vous voulez.
  DR. RICHARD:  J'ai le droit d'aller vous dites?
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Definitivement, oui.
  DR. RICHARD:  Oh, okay.  Thank you, for letting me -- if I
understand well, NB Power wants to eliminate the rate increase.  It
would be important to know the amount of the new funds that we have,
because it would assure if the loans that NB Power had are reduced in
-- as the same amount if the Board decide to use that money to lower
the loans.  I would like to -- as you know, I am worried about the
smart meters and it's not in this part.  I would like to -- I wonder
instead of just adjourn the rate increase, I wonder if we could not
just adjourn the Matter 375 in its entirety and return to 357, because
the smart meter we don't have a mandate yet to bill the -- les
variances dans le temps-la.   A mon humble avis, Monsieur le
vice-président, l'intérêt public sera servi seulement si ces fonds
sont utilisés pour rembourser les prêts et non pour fixer les tarifs.
I understand it would be very convenient for our Prime Minister to be
able to say that rate -- there is no rate increase this year, an
election year, but is it in the interest of the public or is it in the
interest of the Liberal Party?
        I know that if I would have run my business the same way as I read in
the transcript of the 29th, I would be a long time ago flatline.  We
-- NB Power is very important for us.  We should not lose it.  Thank
you, Mr. Vice-President.
  VICE-CHAIRMAN:  Merci, Dr. Richard, pour votre soumission.  Ms. Desmond?



---------- Original message ----------
From: "Waycott, Stephen"<SWaycott@nbpower.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 22:20:18 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: EXT -  Re Matter 430 If NB Power wishes to
attack me at the last minute again they should at least notify me byway 

of the correct email address
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>


Thank you for your email.
I will be out of the office at a regulatory hearing on Wednesday
February 6, returning on Thursday February 7.  I will be checking my
emails only intermittently while I am away.

If your matter is urgent, please contact Brad Crawford at
BCrawford@nbpower.com or 506-458-3520.

Thanks,

Stephen Waycott
Director, Corporate Regulatory Affairs
NB Power

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---------- Original message ----------
From: Scott Stoll <sstoll@airdberlis.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 22:20:20 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re Matter 430 If NB Power wishes to attack
me at the last minute again they should at least notify me byway of
the correct email address
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
I will be out of the office until Tuesday, February 12th, 2019.
During this time, I will have very limited access to email and
voicemail. I will endeavour to respond to emails during the evening.
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 18:20:13 -0400
Subject: Re Matter 430 If NB Power wishes to attack me at the last minute 
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:26:49 -0400
Subject: Re: FW: Matter 430- NB Power 2019/20 General Rate Application
To: Mike.Holland@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca,
brian.gallant@gnb.cablaine.higgs@gnb.ca, premier@gnb.ca,
andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca
Cc: motomaniac333@gmail.com, Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca,
jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov,Diane.Lebouthillier@cra-arc.gc.ca

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Hon.Ralph.Goodale  (PS/SP)"<Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 19:24:56 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: FW: Matter 430- NB Power 2019/20 
General Rate Application
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Merci d'avoir ?crit ? l'honorable Ralph Goodale, ministre de la
S?curit? publique et de la Protection civile.
En raison d'une augmentation importante du volume de la correspondance
adress?e au ministre, veuillez prendre note qu'il pourrait y avoir un
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Thank you!
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Drouin, Nathalie (BRQ)"<Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 19:23:26 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : FW: Matter 430- NB Power 2019/20 
General Rate Application
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>


Veuillez noter que je suis absente jusqu'au 11 Février 2019, sans
accès à mes courriels.   Pour toute question qui ne peut attendre mon
retour, je vous invite à communiquer avec mon adjointe Irène Ghobril
au 514-283-5687. Merci.

Please note that I am away until February 11, 2019, with no access to
my e-mails. For assistance, please contact Irène Ghobril at
514-283-5687. Thank you.

NOTIFICATION ÉLECTRONIQUE: NotificationPGC-AGC.Civil@justice.gc.ca





---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Lebouthillier, Diane"<Diane.Lebouthillier@cra-arc.gc.ca>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 19:23:21 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : FW: Matter 430- NB Power 2019/20 
General Rate Application
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Merci d'avoir écrit à l'honorable Diane Lebouthillier, ministre du
Revenu national. Votre courriel sera lu avec soin et recevra toute
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Anderson-Mason, Andrea Hon. (JAG/JPG)"<Andrea.AndersonMason@gnb.ca>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 19:23:41 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: FW: Matter 430- NB Power 2019/20 
General Rate Application
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>


Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are
greatly valued.  You can be assured that all emails and letters are
carefully read, reviewed and taken into consideration.
If your issue is Constituency related, please contact Lisa Bourque at
my constituency office at
Lisa.Bourque@gnb.caLisa.Bourque@gnb.ca
>  or  (506) 755-2810.
Thank you.


Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations. Nous
tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.
Si c’est au sujet du bureau de circonscription,  veuillez contacter
Lisa Bourque  à  Lisa.Bourque@gnb.caLisa.Bourque@gnb.ca>  ou
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Merci.

Andrea Anderson-Mason, Q.C. / c.r.

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On 2/5/19, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Mitchell, Kathleen"<Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 18:30:20 +0000
> Subject: FW: Matter 430- NB Power 2019/20 General Rate Application
> To: "David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com"<David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com>
> From: NBP Regulatory <NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 10:28 AM
> To: Mitchell, Kathleen <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>; NBEUB/CESPNB
> <General@nbeub.ca>; Desmond, Ellen <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>; Lawton, John
> <John.Lawton@nbeub.ca>; Dickie, Michael <Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>;
> Young, Dave <Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>; Black, Heather (JAG/JPG)
> <Heather.Black@gnb.ca>; rdk@indecon.com; david.raymond.amos@gmail.com;
> David Sollows (Dept Energy and Resource Development)
> <david.sollows@gnb.ca>; Paul Volpe (Enbridge Gas NB)
> <paul.volpe@enbridge.com>; Dave Lavigne (Enbridge Gas NB)
> <dave.lavigne@enbridge.com>; Gilles.volpe@enbridge.com;
> jeffrey.callaghan@mcinnescooper.com; gerald@kissnb.com; 'Christopher
> Stewart' (cstewart@smss.com) <cstewart@smss.com>; Dion Hanrahan (J.D.
> Irving Limite) <hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com>; Cozzarini, Lilia
> <LCozzarini@nbpower.com>; Furey, John <JFurey@nbpower.com>; Waycott,
> Stephen <SWaycott@nbpower.com>; Harrison, Wanda
> <WHarrison@nbpower.com>; Crawford, Brad <BCrawford@nbpower.com>; NBP
> Regulatory <NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com>; rrichard@nb.aibn.com; 'Jeff
> Garrett, Manager of Finance, Saint John Energy'
> (jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com) <jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com>;
> dan.dionne@perth-andover.com; pierreroy@edmundston.ca; Ray Robinson
> (UM) <ray.robinson@sjenergy.com>; sstoll@airdberlis.com; Paula Zarnett
> (UM) <pzarnett@bdrenergy.com>
> Subject: Matter 430- NB Power 2019/20 General Rate Application
>
> Good morning,
>
> Attached please find correspondence and referenced documents from NB
> Power Corporation in relation to the above captioned matter.
>
>
>   1.  Letter dated February 5, 2019
>   2.  Proposed Filing Schedule
>   3.  Confidentiality Undertaking
>   4.  NB Power Notice of Objection to Intervener Request
>   5.  Attachments 1, 2 and 3 as referenced in the Notice of Objection
> to Intervener Request
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Lilia Cozzarini | Regulatory Officer
>
> NB Power Corporation
>
> 515 King Street | Fredericton NB | E3B 5G4
>
> Office: 506 458 4022 | Cell: 506 470 4156 | Fax: 506 458 4000
> lcozzarini@nbpower.comlcozzarini@nbpower.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Russell, Stephen"<SRussell@nbpower.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 20:33:44 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: EXT -  Fwd: Attn Chief Clerk Kathleen Mitchell
RE My Interverver Request in the 430 Matter
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for your email. I am currently out of the office until
monday. I will be checking emails periodically.

My cell is 506-447-7821 if your matter is urgent.

Stephen

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Connelly Bosse, Natacha"<NConnellyBosse@nbpower.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 20:33:44 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: EXT -  Fwd: Attn Chief Clerk Kathleen Mitchell 
RE My Interverver Request in the 430 Matter
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

I am currently out of the office. Please contact Wanda Harrison at
(506) 458-3372.
Thank you

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 16:33:37 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Attn Chief Clerk Kathleen Mitchell RE My Interverver Request 
in the 430 MatterTo: lcozzarini@nbpower.com, jfurey@nbpower.com, wharrison@nbpower.com,
srussell@nbpower.com, NConnellyBosse@nbpower.com
Cc: motomaniac333@gmail.com


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 20:20:10 +0000
Subject: RE: Attn Chief Clerk Kathleen Mitchell RE My Interverver Request 
in the 430 Matter
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for your email to the Energy and Utilities Board.

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-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 4:03 PM
To: NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>; Mitchell, Kathleen
<Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Subject: Attn Chief Clerk Kathleen Mitchell RE My Interverver Request
in the 430 Matter

Kathleen Mitchell
Chief Clerk | Greffière en chef
Energy & Utilities Board | Commission de l’énergie et des services
publics du N.-B.
15 Market Square, Suite 1400
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Methinks I will have another chance to teach NB Power, the EUB and many lawyers a lesson about Integrity tomorrow at 9.30 AM at the Delta Hotel in Saint John NB N'esy Pas?


 https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/nb-power-behind-on-plan-to-pay-down-1.html





https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-behind-on-debt-reduction-commitment-1.5005527



NB Power behind on plan to pay down $1 billion in debt




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David Amos
David Amos
Methinks the folks who offer their opinions on NB Power's debt and rate hikes should consider attending the first day of the public EUB hearing of the 430 Matter today at 9.30 AM in the Delta Hotel in Saint John N'esy Pas?




David Amos 
David Amos
Methinks tomorrow should prove to be an interesting day at the EUB hearing o the 430 Matter byway of all the documents that the NB Power lawyers served on me at the last minute Anyone can download them from the EUB website if they truly cared N'esy Pas?








Mark (Junkman) George 
Mark (Junkman) George
Here is "the deal".
It serves no one's purpose to run NB Hydro efficiently.
The politicians don't care and see it only as a source to provide patronage positions.
The folks running it have no desire to operate it efficiently, otherwise they would have no excuse for rate hikes, and big budgets indexed to their bonuses.
I *guess*, on many levels, privatization is an answer of sorts, but does not assure efficient operation and/or decent competitive energy pricing.
I *suppose* the best thing to do is remove all political control along with all the middle managers.


Roger Richard
Roger Richard
@Mark (Junkman) George You may be right, we should be able to find a solution. But I wonder where integrity when?

David Amos
David Amos
@Roger Richard Methinks you know as well as I that I will have another chance to teach NB Power, the EUB and many lawyers a lesson about Integrity tomorrow morning at 9.30 in the Delta Hotel in Saint John N'esy Pas mon cher ami???







Shawn McShane 
Shawn McShane
The government borrows on behalf of NB Power. NB Power doesn't have to receive one penny to carry the debt that the government can do with as it wants, balance books, spend elsewhere etc.

Government isn't going to say anything about NB Power bloated management/
salaries and NB Power isn't going to say anything about the government du jour.


David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Bingo

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Shawn McShane, ... about the government "du jour". I see that your French is getting better. Bravo!








David Amos 
David Amos
Methinks I should inform the folks that Mr Jones is sourcing the info from documents that have been filed with the EUB. The first day of the hearing on the rate increase is tomorrow at the Delta in Saint John. It is a public hearing and I am intervening again. Anyone came come to the circus and step up to say hey to me in person afterwards N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos Methinks everybody knows I will be sitting beside my friend Roger Richard again N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearings-nb-power-smart-meters-1.4529640










Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
It is time we stopped re-arranging the deck chairs on the good ship NB Power. It should be broken up and sold piecemeal to private companies that would still have to answer to the EUB for rate hikes.

David Peters
David Peters
@Fred Brewer

...and relax regulations. Developing our shale gas, freeing up this market will lead to good changes for the consumer, quickly.

Harold Benson
Harold Benson
@David Peters Shale gas will pollute the aquifer. Is that okay?

Stephanie Haslam
Stephanie Haslam
@Fred Brewer, if one were a skeptic, one might question why certain sectors are being run into the ground. Could it be to advance the cause of privatization? We have already seen a push for public/private partnerships (P3s), which have not always been good for the consumer (ask those affected by the Westside water woes in Saint John-- how many law firms are involved in that debacle?). We want to hold on to NB Power. Look to our Nova Scotian neighbours. Was it to their advantage to sell a portion of their power holdings to Emera? I don't think so. Also, look at the New Brunswick Lobbyist Registry to see how many times Emera appears on it. What are they after, here? Finally, look to the past. This is a quote from a CBC article, during the last bid to sell off our NB Power asset: "The 2008 report warned the Liberals that when New England governments sold nuclear and hydroelectric plants, they lost control of them and had to shoulder big costs.
The consultants' report urged the Liberal government to keep NB Power a Crown corporation."https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/government-was-counselled-not-to-sell-nb-power-1.974585

David Peters
David Peters
@Harold Benson

It's being done safely elsewhere. Why can't it be done safely here?

In fact, our portion of the transfer payments comes from regions that are, and have been, developing their shale gas.

David Amos
David Amos
@Fred Brewer YUP

Stephanie Haslam
Stephanie Haslam
Yes-- sometimes it's a really good exercise to look to the past for guidance. Any New Brunswick political party would do well to examine just how incredibly unpopular the decision to sell off NB Power was. People are realizing that government decisions are not always made in the best interests of the public, as this quote suggests: "Participants wondered why Quebec would want to buy NB Power if the New Brunswick utility was losing money, as the provincial government suggested. Others told the focus group leaders they thought Quebec was getting the better part of the proposed energy accord."https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-deal-unpopular-from-start-documents-1.890015

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Fred Brewer
The only thing that should be done with NBPower is keeping the politics(and their minions) out of it and let it run has a truly independent corporation.

Government has interfered too often(rates deals and job creation projects for their backers/ friends) and use the utility to reward their political hacks with 6 figure management jobs.

Harold Benson
Harold Benson
@David Peters Shale gas will pollute the aquifer. Is that okay?

Stephanie Haslam
Stephanie Haslam
@Rosco holt, exactly. The public is never privy to the behind the scenes machinations-- we can only speculate. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mckenna-hails-nb-power-sale-as-courageous-1.781582

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Stephanie Haslam
Some family members and cousins work/ retired for NBPower and have seen allot of questionable schemes done by some employees and management.

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Stephanie Haslam
It's McKenna that started NBPower's downward spiral when he had no opposition.

Arliss Wilson
Arliss Wilson
@David Peters NB Power has no plants that currently burn natural gas. Retrofits would be in 100's of millions of dollars

David Amos
David Amos
@Arliss Wilson "NB Power has no plants that currently burn natural gas"

Methinks lots of folks heard a little birdie saying that they are about to buy one N'esy Pas?










Shawn McShane 
Shawn McShane
When NB Power was for sale numbers were that PC/Lib governments had taken $3 Billion + from NB Power over the years to balance the books, pay interest on debt etc. Why did Roger Melanson have to tap into contingency reserve because NB Power revenues fell?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-first-quarter-budget-update-1.3740307


David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Methinks everybody should love this term N'esy Pas?

"NB Power's $64M 'political' costs detailed in rate hearings report"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nbpower-electricity-eub-costs-1.3512790









Shawn McShane 
Alex Butt
I can not for the life of me believe that New Brunswicker's fought to "save" NB power when Hydro Quebec was going to buy this mismanaged, corrupt utility. Gaetan Thomas is as trustworthy as any other politician, and only cares about raising rates and the ridiculous so called smart meters to milk us out of even more money. Simply disgraceful.


Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Alex Butt Doesn't help that both governments took billions from the crown corporation eh?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Alex Butt

Exactly.

David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Methinks you forgot how much the Irving Clan and their cohorts have been milking that old cash cow for years N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos @Stephanie Haslam Methinks it is just the tip of a very malevolent iceberg N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-first-full-rate-hearing-gets-questions-about-big-paper-mills-1.3114844

"Multi million dollar subsidies NB Power is forced to provide the province's big paper mills took centre stage at the utility's rate hearing Monday with a retired NB Power engineer criticizing the practice as thinly veiled corporate welfare.

"I'd like to understand the program and I would like all the documentation that's available on the program that will explain it to people," said Gregory Hickey as he questioned a panel of NB Power executives about the practice of buying renewable energy from paper mills and reselling it back to them at a substantial loss.

"I think the people of this province deserve to know,"

NB Power is in front of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board for its first full rate hearing, where all of its operations are open to scruitny, since 1993.

The utility has applied for a modest two per cent rate hike beginning on July 1, but for the first time in 22 years the application requires full disclosure and that is subjecting the utility to some tough questioning.

Hickey registered to participate as a concerned citizen and was given wide latitude by EUB Chairman Ray Gorman to ask NB Power any questions he had, with the same standing as the corporate lawyer for Enbridge who went before him and the corporate lawyer for JD Irving who came after.

Hickey made the most of his chance.

He was especially curious about NB Power's Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program which was unveiled by the Alward government in 2011."










Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
Hydro Quebec must be some happy they dodged this bullet!


David Peters
David Peters
@Marguerite Deschamps

Is that why QC blocked Energy East? To stifle competition in the energy market?

...and look how they treated NFLD in the Churchill Falls steal of a deal.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Peters, NFLD & Labrador made a legal binding agreement. The highest court in the land said so. Steal of a deal or not; a deal is a deal! Any deal we would have made with Quebec would have been better than the mess we are in now. And we were told about the headwinds we would face.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks everybody is Happy Happy Happy just like you N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, I am very unhappy about this! Pauvre New Brunswick, petit peuple, mangeurs de hotdogs!

David Peters
David Peters
@Marguerite Deschamps

So, QC selling NFLD generated power for 30 times more than NFLD gets is fair? ...and you want NB abused in the same fashion?

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks the same nasty comment was taken down yesterday N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Peters, you would rejoice (be happy, happy happy!) if the shoe was on the other foot!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "I am very unhappy about this! Pauvre New Brunswick, petit peuple, mangeurs de hotdogs!"

Hmmm

Joseph Vacher
Joseph Vacher
@Marguerite Deschamps time for you to move to quebec marguerite

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Peters

Who says NB power was going to get the same abuse ?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Joseph Vacher, and you to England with your queen!

David Peters
David Peters
@Marc Martin

History says.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Peters

Which history ? You don't have any don't you ? This was all because Quebec was French, if it was Ontario we would have heard crickets and NB would have been sold.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc Martin, besides, Quebec is light years ahead of Ontario and the rest of Canada when it comes to harnessing electric power.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "and you to England with your queen!,"

Methinks you SANB people need to make your comments in Radio Canada then you can sing Quebec's praises all day long without irritating so many Anglo folks in New Brunswick N'esy Pas?

David Peters
David Peters
@Marc Martin

The history of the Churchhill Falls steal of deal...and the fact that Quebec companies have getting contracts in NB for decades, with no opportunity for NB companies to do the same. It's reasonable to guess that this is bc QC companies are somehow more subsidized than their NB counterparts.

History is so one-sided, it's just ugly. We have a huge swamp to drain, and power generation is only one aspect of the entire mess.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Peters

That's the thing you people don't understand, we have greedy business owners in NB that's a fact, during Tenders their offer is usually to high that's why they get no contract in Quebec.

David Peters
David Peters
@Marc Martin

Obviously, the process is tilted in QC companies favor. When is the last time you seen a NB construction company doing work in QC?

That's about as fair as the Churchhill Falls fiasco.

David Peters
David Peters
@Marc Martin

...and how do you square QC blocking Energy East? Devastating move for AB and NB.

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Marguerite Deschamps you are wrong. Quebec wanted NB power so it could control the power corridors to the northeast USA market from Muskrat Falls. Then Quebec could re rape NFLD again " renting" the transmission lines to them.

David Amos
David Amos
@daryl doucette Methinks that control the power corridors to the northeast USA market was the Quebecker plan. I don't know about the re rape NFLD. Clearly the French dudes looked at troubles with Lepreau and did not refurbish their own Nuke and did their math then backed away from the deal particularly after Graham wanted to keep the transmission lines. Quebeckers ain't dumb N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "Quebec is light years ahead of Ontario and the rest of Canada when it comes to harnessing electric power."

Who helped finance all those fancy dams?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, not you, that's for sure!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Yes I did with my federal tax dollars

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@David Amos Quebec wanted the transmission lines. Ask your self why they wanted them so bad? To nail Muskrat Falls pocketbook.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Peters

Energy east was going to get blocked by the tree huggers, except for the construction there wasn't going to be much benefit to NB, Irving would have been happy tough.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@daryl doucette

* Ask your self why they wanted them so bad? To nail Muskrat Falls pocketbook.*

And ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amo

* Yes I did with my federal tax dollars*

I am sure Quebec thanks you for your 10$ you invested into their 25 Billion dams...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks I should regret every penny of my tax dollars that goes towards your wages N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

I thank you for your .0001 cents contributions a year to my salary, I can buy you a bubble gum if you like it would reimburse you for the next 50 years....

Eric Tremblay
Eric Tremblay 
 @David Amos
No, HQ would not have gained control the power corridors to the northeast USA market.

"Under the deal (NB Hydro sale), Hydro-Québec would have acquired most of the province's power-generation assets , but New Brunswick WOULD MAINTAIN CONTROL of transmission and distribution."

HQ really offered a generous deal for those (crumbling) NB assets. But thanks goodness, NB wimped out and rejected the offer...

Now, HQ would only be interested to sell you wholesale power at extremely competitive prices - nothing else.

You keep your crumbling mess and debt.





Shawn McShane 
Roland Godin
Voters hire politicians and politicians hire management and etc., figure it out it's not rock science...et voilà.


David Peters
David Peters
@Roland Godin

...and the consumer always loses in that scenario. Higher costs for worsening to no service...rampant corruption.

It's a no win situation for the vast majority...and history shows this time and again.

Jeremy McKinnon
Jeremy McKinnon
@David Peters vote for the same (bleu/red) get the same...

Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Jeremy McKinnon
Voting with a colour crayon could be part of the problem, whatever colour one doodles...et voilà.

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Roland Godin
"Voting with a colour crayon could be part of the problem"
There are no black and white political parties, thus the only answer is to vote Purple or Green.

David Peters
David Peters
@Fred Brewer

The yellow of Libertarian has best platform, imo... if no local candidates.

"2.3 Energy and Resources

While energy is needed to fuel a modern society, government should not be subsidizing any particular form of energy. We oppose all government control of energy pricing, allocation, and production."

https://www.lp.org/platform/

David Peters
David Peters
@Marc Martin

I'm not a PA member. You're confusing me with someone who shares my name.

David Amos
David Amos
@David Peters Methinks you are talking to a ghost N'esy Pas?










Darren J Taylor 
Darren J Taylor
So you post profits for 2018 fiscal year, you have a billion dollars in debt, and you expect us to pick up the tab for your bad financial choices??
Seriously, what's missing in this province is some good old competition to keep rates low, and companies efficient. Companies with stiff competition are less prone to top-heavy, bloated, greedy management scenarios.....


Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Darren J Taylor As a reminder, the government borrows on behalf of NB Power and on-lends proceeds. They can borrow for NB Power and NB Power holds the debt yet NB Power doesn't have to receive a penny...I think this has been done to the tune of over $3 billion, it came out during the sale to Hydro Quebec...


David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Methinks folks don't get it or simply don't care N'esy Pas?











Shawn McShane 
Johnny Jakobs
Poor manager performance at the Point and head office. Management is being rewarded for being managers. They can create and approve their own overtime and cash in.

What if NB invested the same amount of cash into renewable energy as it did and continues to do with the Point?
Solar.. wind... tidal...

Imagine if we(taxpayers) actually had a voice that was listened to.


David Amos
David Amos
@Johnny Jakobs "Imagine if we(taxpayers) actually had a voice that was listened to."

Methinks you seek true enlightenment you should try to intervene in hearings within the EUB about NB Power matters N'esy Pas?



Johnny Jakobs
Johnny Jakobs
@David Amos methinks true enlightenment will get you fired/ridiculed N'esy Pas?







Shawn McShane 
Jeff Smith
NB Power made a lot of mistakes over the years. They made a bad deal with Venezuela back in the 1990's. Then Chavez/Meduro took over the oil companies and broke their contract that NB Power had invested in. Never make a deal with angry socialist countries.


Harold Benson
Harold Benson
@Jeff Smith They've made a lot of mistakes since then, and probably doubled each others wages.

David Amos
David Amos
@Jeff Smith Methinks there was no contract with Venezuela whatsoever N'esy Pas?










David Peters
David Peters
"...it will require cumulative rate hikes to customers of 22.3 per cent..."

This is what happens when you have politics running a sector as important as electricity generation. The only thing that would have reversed this trend is free market competition.

Meanwhile, where they are developing their shale gas, electricity rate have been reduced in half.


Harold Benson
Harold Benson
@David Peters Yeah right......the power company cuts the power rate because their cost is lowered. You know that just isn't true. That doesn't happen in any business I know of.

David Peters
David Peters
@Harold Benson

You've missed the point entirely. It's more involved than that.

David Amos
David Amos
@David Peters "...it will require cumulative rate hikes to customers of 22.3 per cent..."

Methinks Mr Higgs picked up the phone when he read that statement N'esy Pas?








Shawn McShane 
rene Landry
time to get rid of Thomas and heavy top management in that structure. Francais ou pas, c'a juste pas d'allure. there's no need to pay him more than 500,000$ and for decisions is always making to benefits corporate, not citizen. Where are financial perks to offset Heatpump, Incentive for Solar Panel ( I did the math yesterday, at the cost of 10.21c per kwh, If they would put solar panel on my roof and for 25 years amortization, It would cost me $45 a month and then reduce my energy comsumption from 300$ a month to barely 35-50 a month. Oh no, that money is not going to nbpower, we can't do it. bla bla bla


Jeremy McKinnon
Jeremy McKinnon
@Irene Landry vote for the same (red/Bleu) get the same haha

David Amos
David Amos
@Jeremy McKinnon Methinks we get the governments we deserve N'esy Pas?










Shawn McShane 
Ronald Parker
With all the management in NB power making great wages and all this failure how come heads dont roll? Come on political leaders ask these guys some hard questions. Cant meet your targets? Lets trim the fat cat managers for a start.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ronald Parker Methinks NB Power is not like a typical business that employs common sense N'esy Pas?









Harold Benson 
Harold Benson
Time for a raise......Canabis NB to.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Harold Benson

Well at least they seem to be making a profit...

Harold Benson
Harold Benson
@Marc Martin They should be .. looking at my bill.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Yea right



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Harold Benson

Well Cannabis is for recreational purposes its not a necessity.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Maybe you should ask you buddies at the Anglo society ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks they hate me as much as SANB does N'esy Pas?










Harold Wood
Harold Wood
NB Power needs a complete overhaul from the top down. President (aka Tim Conway look-alike) and the upper management group need to be replaced. Most of NB Power problems result from mismanagement. Stupid monthly comparison of use to your neighbor is an example of waste. Bonus payments for a money losing business is another example. The last thing we need is any involvement with Quebec.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Harold Wood

*The last thing we need is any involvement with Quebec.*

Let me guess because they are French.........

David Peters
David Peters
@Marc Martin

Can NB companies work in QC, like QC companies get contracts in NB?

Totally a one-way street when it comes to NB dealings with QC, imo.

Kelly Alder
Kelly Alder
@Marc Martin
Worked really well for NFLD & Labrador didn’t it?!

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Kelly Alder, NFLD & Labrador made a legal binding agreement. The highest court in the land said so. Just admit that we are in this mess because we missed our opportunity to sell to Hydro Quebec! I told you so when we had the opportunity that we would live to regret it.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you SANB people would for say I told you so when the sun comes up tomorrow and take credit for it doing so.

However say what you will I bet that you can produce no document with your name on it pertaining to NB Power N'esy Pas?

Joseph Vacher
Joseph Vacher
@Harold Wood they did that years ago, then the liberal were elected and all the made up fairey tale jobs came back

Joseph Vacher
Joseph Vacher
@Marc Martin no, becuase they are quebec

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Peters

They try the thing is when it goes down to the Tender their price is too high.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Kelly Alder

Sure did, we protected NFLD & Labrador but for what purpose ? What did we get in return ?

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Marc Martin
We protected ourselves, not NFLD & Labrador.



David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "What did we get in return ?"

More debt









Shawn McShane 
Marc Martin
Gaetan Thomas has been in charge for a while now, isn't time the CoRservative Higgs steps up and replace him ? None of these high direction employee are union employed they can easily be replaced.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks Mr Higgs recalls how much it cost for the liberals to pay off his' predecessor N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-severance-david-hay-1.4357625

"After nearly eight years of keeping the amount secret, NB Power is acknowledging it had to pay its former president David Hay the equivalent of four years pay — just over $1.7 million — following his sudden departure from the utility in January 2010."








Shawn McShane 
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

*What would have happened to the rates after that? Through the roof I would say.*

WRONG the rate where still going to be regulated by an NB commission.

*No longer would NB companies be able to bid on jobs or sell things to them as purchasing would have bee moved to Que. *

And what companies are that ? Tell me sir how much money do *these companies* pour into our economy ? I don't think they invested 9 billion dollars since then now did they ?

*The only reason that they were interested was to block Nalcor from selling power from Muskrat falls to New England.*

Selling electricity is a business, what have Newfoundland done to help us ? Why do we need to help them ??

*GNB show 1338 employees that make 6 figures*

A lot of these jobs are union jobs tough..


Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Marc Martin
What make you think NB commission would have had any sway on Hydro Quebec's decisions on what rates to charge NBers.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Rosco holt

Because it was one of the condition of the contract.

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Marc Martin
"GNB show 1338 employees that make 6 figures"
Allot of these 6 figure jobs are management (political appointments) which NBPower has too much of.

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Marc Martin
Politicians didn't care about residentials customers, everything was aimed at big businesses and protecting them.

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin First off I doubt EUB would have any power over a private company and even if they did it still would not help the debt, like I said.
I was doing 50K worth of busines annually with NBP at the time so I know what would have happened.
I was not saying we had to do anything to help them, just pointing out hydro Que's motives.
You have no idea how many of those jobs are unionized.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Rosco holt

*Allot of these 6 figure jobs are management *

From what I've heard a lot of them are unionized..How do you fix this ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

Tell me how much money you poured into our economy ? We also have a Tender rules in NB the lowest bidder gets the contract. Again I will ask do you honestly think you have invested more then 9 billion into the NB economy ???

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin Foolish talk. I was only pointing out that I was directly involved in the process so I am speaking with first hand knowledge not your hearsay.
Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Marc Martin
If it's unionize it was recently, most of these "managers" are political hacks creating more management jobs under themselves to raise their salaries.

NBPower hires private contractors more often to replace all the frontline workers whose positions have been retired.

David Peters
David Peters
@Tim Raworth

" The only reason that they were interested was to block Nalcor from selling power from Muskrat falls to New England. "

Another case of monopolies attempting to stifle competition.


Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Tim Raworth
"They promised rate freeze for 10 years. How much of an increase would that have added the debt?"

What everyone seems to have forgotten is that the purchase price for NB Power was approximately equal to NB Power's debt. Thus the entire debt would have been wiped out and any future debt would belong to HQ and not be on NB's books. And yes, NB via the EUB would still control any future electricity price increases the same way they do now.

It was a wonderful opportunity.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

See you cant even prove any of your points valid. So we didn't sell NB power because of a few greedy owners...wow...

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Brewer

OMG we finally agree on something...You may have changed my opinion of you Fred.

Harold Benson
Harold Benson
@Marc Martin Most of them ARE management.

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin I would like to see you say that at a Chamber of Commerce meeting.

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Fred Brewer A price for getting in bed with the devil?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

Again let me ask you this, did any of you business owners invest more then 9 billion in the province ? Or did you simply want the contract to buy big houses and big trucks ?? Come one answer this, show your true color.

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin I don't know how much NB business invest in NB and I doubt you do either. Where do you get this 9 Million? And by the way see Stephanie Haslam's comment above

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "So we didn't sell NB power because of a few greedy owners...wow.."

Methinks everybody knows we did not sell NB Power because your beloved Quebeckers backed away from the deal N'esy Pas?

Kevin Bissett, The Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:46AM EDT

New Brunswick Premier Shawn Graham has pulled the plug on the controversial sale of NB Power assets to Hydro-Quebec, saying changes sought by the Quebec utility made the deal unacceptable.

Graham said Hydro-Quebec sought revisions to the $3.2-billion deal that no longer made it worthwhile.

"It is with so much regret that I am announcing this morning that we are no longer proceeding with discussions to finalize the energy agreement with Hydro-Quebec," Graham told the legislature Wednesday.

"Hydro-Quebec has asked for changes to the agreement that would have unacceptably taken away some of the value and increased some of the risks for New Brunswickers."

He said Hydro-Quebec found there were more risks than it was willing to accept, but did not explain further.

Quebec Premier Jean Charest said his province decided to pull out of the deal after finding unanticipated costs related to matters like security.

The original plan to sell NB Power, announced last October, would have seen Hydro-Quebec acquire transmission and distribution systems in addition to power plants for $4.75 billion. At the time, Graham touted the deal as one that would have drastically reduced the province's staggering debt and lower power rates.

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Fred Brewer
"Thus the entire debt would have been wiped out and any future debt would belong to HQ and not be on NB's books. "

What would have stopped HQ from charging NBers more to recover the money the spent buying NBPower or breaking it up and selling parts of it to another company.

Would the new owners still be tied to any contract between NB and HQ?

Would the EUB have power over the new owners?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

Its not 9 millions its 9 billion. 4.5 to sell it and 4.5 for the mactaquac dam we will have to pay for....and I am not even counting salaries, refurbishing the grid, the million $ Point Lepreau is costing us a day when its closed...You don't know how much business related to NB Power invest in NB but it isn't hard to figure there is no way they can compensate for the total lost.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*Methinks everybody knows we did not sell NB Power because your beloved Quebeckers *

The deal was off because of the pressure from the English communities and because of your beloved Anglo Society group because it was going to be sold to a French province and that a fact.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Rosco holt

*What would have stopped HQ from charging NBers more to recover the money the spent buying NBPower or breaking it up and selling parts of it to another company. *

I honestly tough you where more intelligent then that, unless you cant calculate there is no way they could charge us more then what we would have saved lol.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Nope








Stephane Lavigne 
Stephane Lavigne
WOW is all i can say with the price of electricity we pay!!!! and with the rate hikes yearly and stil this corporation isnt doing so well lolll maybe its time to look at what is bleeding at NB power. Management needs a shuffle to start . Then close down the main part thats costing nb power a **** ton and not producing its suppose quota *POINT LEPREAU** When will they acknowledge theres a massive problem with NB power......


Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Stephane Lavigne Actually residential rates are low compared to most other provinces and commercial rates are high. No one want to hear this but something has to be done to correct this discrepency.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

We are ranked 6th out of 9 provinces so far and we are having rates applied to us 2 - 3 times a year...In a few years we will be amongst the higest.

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Tim Raworth
High commercial rates for whom?
Big business ( you know who) is getting paid to use electricity.

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Rosco holt Commercial not industrial. They are not the same

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin
AVERAGE PRICES FOR A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER (IN ¢/K W H)1,2,3
Canadian Cities
Montréal, QC 7.13
Calgary, AB 15.79
Charlottetown, PE 16.83
Edmonton, AB 14.35
Halifax, NS 16.41
Moncton, NB 12.97
Ottawa, ON 12.16
Regina, SK 16.51
St. John’s, NL 12.03
Toronto, ON 13.24
Vancouver, BC 11.42
Winnipeg, MB 9.00
¢/k W h
1) For a monthly consumption of 1,000 k W h. 2) In Canadian currency. 3) Data from Comparison of Electricity Prices in Major North American Cities publications, Hydro-Québec, 2014 to 2018.

http://www.hydroquebec.com/data/documents-donnees/pdf/comparison-electricity-prices.pdf
Where do you get your info? 2-3 times a year? I dont think so.

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin See David Amos CBC link above and others. It can be cleaned up without selling if politics are taken out of the picture.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

I just saw this your a PANBV candidate ?? No wonder you wont answer my questions...PANB has NO common sense whatsoever...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks Tim Raworth and David Peters of the PANB never voted for me when I ran in two federal elections in Fundy Royal nor did any liberal or NDP or Mr Higgs and any of his cohorts N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

I think your buddies the Anglo Society voted for you N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Nope Methinks Mr Higgs and everybody else knows I don't join clubs I know who my buddies are and not one of them belongs to any society like you SANB dudes and your lawyer buddies do N'esy Pas?







David Peters
David Peters
How is it that an entity that has a monopoly on something as ubiquitous as electricity....has failed and is essentially bankrupt?

The same could be asked of most gov't monopolies...with the only exception, that I can think of, being the liquor monopoly.


Jake Quinlan
Jake Quinlan
@David Peters Labour costs must be a big part. During those ice storms and other weather events, that are increasing with frequency at a time when perhaps the infrastructure is aging,. the overtime costs must be astromomical.

David Amos
David Amos 
 @David Peters "How is it that an entity that has a monopoly on something as ubiquitous as electricity....has failed and is essentially bankrupt?"

Methinks its called political interference N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-challenge-cost-test-nb-power-1.3558574

EUB challenges NB Power to reveal analysis of political burden

"NB Power is preparing for a rate hearing next month and as part of that process was asked to run simulations to show how much money it would save if it were not obliged to meet a variety of requirements imposed on it, mostly by the New Brunswick government.

Those requirements include providing subsidies to industry, entering long-term contracts with local private power suppliers, committing to expensive wind power over cheaper alternatives and other measures that force the utility to buy electricity at above market rates.

Initially, NB Power ran the simulation and reported that it could provide electricity to customers for $64.1 million less than it does if it was free from government-imposed objectives. However, it then ran a second simulation using different assumptions and has been withholding those results from public release.

The utility said the second simulation revealed production cost information that is commercially sensitive and could harm NB Power as it negotiates electricity prices with suppliers and customers."








Stephane Lavigne 
Richard Dunn
The issue is not in rate hikes.....the issue is in weak leadership at NB Power. It is well passed the time for Gaetan Thomas to have the cord cut on his contract as CEO.
I am convinced that under new leadership NB Power can turn things around and be an example for others to follow.
I am not sure how soon his contract is up but I would not even consider renewing it.


Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Richard Dunn
Why would government get rid of their favorite yes-man?

David Amos
David Amos
@Rosco holt Methinks they are more afraid of him spilling the beans N'esy Pas?









Buford Wilson 
Buford Wilson
Gaetan may not get his bonus this year.

I wonder if Quebec is still interested in buying Energie NB Power.

Shawn's big idea is starting to look better every day.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Buford Wilson

It should have been sold when we had the chance, this could have been the only good thing he would have done for NB.

Rob Mason
Rob Mason
@Marc Martin so in your mind selling strategic infrastructure and letting someone else dictate electricity costs is a good thing? Please explain
I believe Quebec would have kept rates stable, then increased them to subsidize cheap power for their residents. Quebec would not care the burden they placed on us, just look at Church Hill falls.

Easy to make statements, harder to back them up with a reasoned argument.

David Amos
David Amos
@Buford Wilson "Shawn's big idea is starting to look better every day."

Methinks everybody knows that it always did to me N'esy Pas?




NB Power behind on plan to pay down $1 billion in debt

The utility would need to increase rates by 22.3% to pay down its debt on schedule


NB Power has been committed since 2011 to paying down $1 billion in debt . (Shane Fowler/CBC)

NB Power's seven-year-old plan to pay down $1 billion in debt is so far behind schedule it will require cumulative rate hikes to customers of 22.3 per cent over the next five years — more than double the expected rate of inflation —  if the utility is to meet debt reduction levels it is supposed to by 2025.

The utility says it has not made any decision to push for rate hikes of that size to meet its 2025 financial goals, but documents filed with the Energy and Utilities Board hint that dual corporate objectives of low debt and low rates are beginning to conflict and may soon force a choice.

"NB Power still believes that these (2025 debt targets) are appropriate financial objectives but must be balanced against the objectives of low and stable rates," it wrote in explaining the size of rate hikes that would be required to keep to its current debt repayment timetable.







NB Power has been committed since 2011 to paying down $1 billion in debt and building a 20 per cent equity cushion into its financial structure. It initially picked 2021 as a target date but made almost no headway in early years and eventually switched the deadline to 2024 and then again to 2025.

In 2012 the utility incorporated debt reduction into its strategic plan as one of  "three pillars" that would guide its future direction. NB Power president Gaetan Thomas promised there would be steady improvement once the Point Lepreau nuclear generator finished renovations and came back online later that year.

"Following refurbishment, net debt levels are forecasted (sic) to begin a gradual decline to meet the $1 billion reduction target by 2020/21," Thomas wrote in his "message from the president" in the utility's 2012 annual report.


NB Power President Gaetan Thomas promised there would be steady improvement once renovations to the Point Lepreau nuclear generator were complete and it was online. (CBC) 
After peaking at $5.06 billion in March of 2013 the utility laid out a plan to reduce its net debt to $3.95 billion by 2021 but various problems, including poor performance by Lepreau, vicious storm damage and other unexpected expenses laid waste to those commitments.

New estimates show NB Power's debt is now forecast to settle at $4.98 billion in 2021, almost $1 billion higher than managers originally planned, and will not improve significantly by 2025 without major rate hikes or substantial internal cost reductions.

A third option is to delay debt reduction goals for a third time to 2026 or 2029, depending on the size of rate increases in future years.
NB Power spokesman Marc Belliveau said in an email no course of action has been chosen.  The utility has applied for a 2.5 per cent increase in rates this year and decisions on whether to favour debt reduction over low rates or the other way around in future years will not be made soon.

"The figures presented in the report aren't options — they are presented merely as a sensitivity to show how fiscal pressures have affected the utility in the past year, and the various scenarios should not be interpreted as either/or options," wrote Belliveau.

"Any applications made beyond 2019-2020 would take in new information, in order to provide stable rates, meet our costs, and pay down debt."

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006. 


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No ambulance taken out of service over lack of bilingual staff, ANB says

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Replying to and 49 others
Methinks the government lawyers who argued that backing away from bilingual requirements would violate the Official Languages Act and the Charter were dumb to ignore my lawsuit N'esy Pas?






https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ambulance-lack-bilingual-staff-anb-1.5006740



No ambulance taken out of service over lack of bilingual staff, ANB says




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David Amos
 David Amos
Methinks I should ask why nobody showed up at the EUB hearing today N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

You badgered us all week you where going, we placed all our fates in you....











Marc Martin 
Johnny Horton
Isn’t the VP just playing with words? I see a great future as a politician in his future,

They have their in filled bilingual positions. Therefore there are positions due to language that are not available to be called due to the position being vacant because it is bilingual and there are not enough bilingual Emt in Canada,

So it is due to language - just maybe not the spin on language some want to make it to be,


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Johnny Horton, you CORs would not recognize the truth if it stared you right in the face.

Barry Odonnell
Barry Odonnell
@Marguerite Deschamps Where is Galllant these days?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Barry Odonnell, Higgs will be gone and elusive within a few months.
Billy Hachey 
Billy Hachey,
@Barry Odonnell Teaching Marg tennis of course! notice she ignores your question completely and deflects to someone else, typical grade 4 debating antics

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Billy Hachey, Brian has many university degrees including a Masters in Law at McGill. How about you?

Johnny Horton
Johnny Horton
@Marguerite Deschamps

If you actually read whst I was saying I said it wasn’t due to the latest interpretation/definition of language issues in NB. But s mire borader basic language issue thst everywhere in the world has. Not enough people speaking enough languages to fulfill needed positions.








Matt Steele

Matt Steele
It sounds like Matt Crossman is making a play on the interpretation of words . I wonder what the term " out of service " actually means to Mr. Crossman , and what that actually consists of . Could an Ambulance be sitting at a ANB depot without having any staff to operate it ; and still be considered " in service " ? Words seems to have a different meaning for different people depending on their interpretation of said words for that given situation . What a web we weave when we practice to deceive.....also known as SPIN .


Charlie Papa
Charlie Papa
@Matt Steele the scenario that you described would be considered “out of service”.

Johnny Horton
Johnny Horton
@Charlie Papa

Yes. According to Crossmzn though that’s out of service due to lack of staff, not due to language.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Matt Steele, "SPIN" like we always read here about you and your cohorts.

Charlie Papa
Charlie Papa
@Johnny Horton Ok so what are you getting at. You seem to be an intelligent person. List off all the reasons that a staff member may not show up for work in any industry and apply it to what you are trying to say. If you are implying that said truck that you are using as an example is parked becasue there were no bilingual medics to work you are not correct in your assumptions. It would be staffed regardless of language.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "SPIN" like we always read here about you and your cohorts."

What is it that you do?








 Marc Martin 
David Webb
From ANB's 2017/2018 annual report it states, "As a result, we are pleased to report that 33.11% of all
ANB paramedics have been qualified as bilingual by the Province of New Brunswick (PNB) through service New Brunswick". To me that either means ambulances are parked or 33% are running with English only EMT's. Add to that that a temporary floater complement of English EMT's has been given a green light and the fact that ANB refuses to divulge their service performance in spite of request for information, says something here doesn't smell right. Dig a little deeper Jacques!


Marguerite Deschamps
Content disabled. before I could see or save it
Marguerite Deschamps


Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@David Webb Jacques will not dig any deeper. He is completly bias.

Barry Odonnell
Barry Odonnell
@Marguerite Deschamps Ohh puhhhhleaaseeeee

David Amos
David Amos
@Barry Odonnell LOL





  


Fred Brewer..
Fred Brewer
""We would never take an ambulance out of service for language," he told the legislature's Crown corporations committee. "In fact, we exhaust every call-out list across the province to fill a shift."

This is an example of wordplay and smoke and mirrors.

The call-out lists do not contain enough names because of language requirements and therefore ambulances sit idle due to language.


Chuck Michaels
Chuck Michaels
@Fred Brewer - I asked a medic friend about this. The callout lists contain the names of ALL MEDICS willing to do overtime. The fact is, many mark themselves "unavailable". They are tired. They are frustrated at being classed as "patient" support - rather than "patient care". Many are unwilling to drive excessive distances to work an overtime where fuel costs make an extra shift uneconomical. She related that there are parts of the province where positions go unfilled - nobody applies. There are equally big problems that need to be addressed - before we lose medics to other jobs or provinces!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Brewer

They just confirmed ambulance do no sit because of language, what more do you want them to say?

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Marc Martin
I just want the unblemished truth that's all.

Mark (Junkman) George
Mark (Junkman) George
@Marc Martin

The truth for once?
It's not like we are used to politicians lying to us? Are you saying/thinking that a politician deserves/is going to get, or is owed: the truth.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Fred Brewer, nope, nobody died because of language.

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Marguerite Deschamps
You can bury your head in the sand all you want Marg, but that does not change the fact that Language comes before Lives in NB.

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Fred Brewer exactly!

Denis Doiron
Denis Doiron
@Fred Brewer Fred ! I am a paramedic and have been for 29 years ! First of all i can assure you no ambulance has gone instaffed because of language. The media blew this language thing out of proportion yes there is lbilingual positions available it is sad there is some medics that are having a hard time getting fuill time jobs when these medic are hired they aware of the of theae language laws . Now. Example here how it works let say about 800 posistions 400 are unilingual and 400 are bilingual positions wich is fair so how it stands 400 unilingual position are filled and the other 400 bilingual position only 250 are filled can find enough so the remaining positions are given to the unilingual full time on a 6 months basis until they can find bilingual to fill the position if they do unfortunaltly the unilingiual medic goes back partime of not he keeps it for another 6 months . That is the way it works . For ambulance not being staff is like ANB said there is alot of medics out on medical leave the rest is overworked alrweady and can only do so much overtime and we are juste short in general so there is lot of ambulance that do not get staff for this reason and keep in mind also some of these bilingual position are also up North of the province some unilingual or bilingual do not want to relocate up the north to take these positions idont blame them so they remain open and assure you when there is a shift open due to sick calls or other everybody is called for the open shift no matter what language you speak .

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mark (Junkman) George

Its not a politician that is affirming this, you need to read the article.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Brewer

But yet you failed to show us 1 death related to language...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Not true


 Marc Martin
 Marc Martin
 @David Amos Are you sure your talking to the right Marc Martin Davis ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Who is Davis?













 Marc Martin 
Tim Raworth
The simple fact is unilingual people who are considering a career will not go into paramedic training, at least not with intensions to stay in NB. They were only being hired under a term contract knowing that they could be replaced. Who in their right mind would try to build a future on that basis. Yes language is part of the problem! It figured Jacque would be all over this story with his completely unbias opinion. LOL


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

Oh so now its because they don't hire enough unilingual English its not because of live before language anymore ??
Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc Martin, he would have preferred that lives were lost so he could back up his fake news argument.

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marguerite Deschamps You are a fool for saying such a thing God forgive you.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Tim Raworth, which one, Zeus, Jupiter, Saturn, Jehovah?

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin My comment was clear and concise. Perhaps you should read it again.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Tim Raworth, all they need to do is become bilingual. In this day and age, all the tools are there for free to learn any language. One need not even go to school.

Denis Doiron
Denis Doiron
@Tim Raworth Nobody is hired under term contract. When you are hired you are hired as casual . And then you can apply for positions partime or fullltime every 60 days but of course most of the position that are left are bilinguals position so these are given out to the unilinguals 6 months at a time and if. Not filled. There given back to them for another 6 month

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

Actually its not, even when shown the facts you make it a language issue.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Actually its not, even when shown the facts you make it a language issue."

Methinks everybody knows that is your forte N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Methinks everybody knows that you have a lot of friends at the Anglo Society N'esy Pas?









 Marc Martin 
Marc Martin
There ya go truth comes out...


Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@Marc Martin

As I would say to most posters here,........YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH............

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin One sided truth.

Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@Tim Raworth
roflmao............man that was funny

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Marc Martin
One man's truth is another man's BS.

Denis Doiron
Denis Doiron
@Marc Martin its true there is not enough bilingual medics but ANB is telling the truth about Ambulances they do not go off the road because of language there is lots of medic out on disabilty and sick calls and that opens lots of positions medic are over worked as it is and can only. Work so many hours. Can assure. You everybody avalaible is called to cover these shift but refuses they are already overwelmed and burned out by working overtime ! In General there is big shortage of medics just like Nurses« 

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Tim Raworth

Its only one sided when they don't say what you want...

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Denis Doiron

I am not arguing that...you need to calm down...But it isn't because of language.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "There ya go truth comes out..."

Yea Right









 Marguerite Deschamps 
Marguerite Deschamps
Le Crisse d'Austin did not ask the question because he could not live with the answer and the truth which is not in accord with his COR fake news. No mon Crisse, there is not more to it.


Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Marguerite Deschamps Hopefully CUPI will have a chance to have their say. The truth will come out. You will just ignore it anyways.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Tim Raworth, what is the truth? Do tell!

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marguerite Deschamps Judy Astle , president, Local 4848 of the Canadian Union of Public Employees says the problem is a lack of bilingual paramedics. At a recent workshop she attended for new employees, only four of 13 were bilingual, Astle said. "We can't snap our fingers and make them."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/paramedics-ambulance-nb-bilingualism-1.3422603

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "what is the truth? Do tell!"

Methinks you know it already N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

We all know the only truth you belive in is from your Anglo society buddies right ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks that nonsense o yours was resolved last night and you failed to dispute the truth N'esy Pas?










 Marc Martin 
Chantal LeBouthi
So mr. Austin is a fake news kind of guy


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Chantal LeBouthi, always was ever since he was a pastor, always is, always will be! And most divisive to boot!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps And most divisive to boot!

and you are not?









 Marc Martin 
Chantal LeBouthi
Nb politicians are so bad bad bad


Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Chantal LeBouthi not all but alot are.

Chantal LeBouthi
Chantal LeBouthi
@Bernard McIntyre

Yep

David Amos
David Amos
@Bernard McIntyre Please name one

David Amos
David Amos
@Chantal LeBouthi YUP

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@David Amos Well Jerry Lowe Doesn't seem to be to bad yet.








 Marc Martin 
Roland Godin
Austin or whoever, have you any examples of people not being served in the langue officielle of their choosing, English?...eh/voilà.


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Roland Godin, Austin has no retort. He is owned!

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Roland Godin Anglo don't care as long as the ambulance arrives in time to save lives.

Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Shawn McShane
Really, so why do some insist in not encouraging providers to make an effort to respect les deux langues officielles?...EH!

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marguerite Deschamps You could say that about most , not all but most politician's.

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Roland Godin President Greg McConaghy told reporters 150 jobs are being posted every eight weeks that aren't getting filled. But because there aren't nearly enough bilingual paramedics applying, unilingual ones are being hired on eight-week contracts. That has resulted in higher wait times in many regions and some communities, such as Nackawic, Harvey and McAdam going uncovered on a daily basis...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "Austin has no retort. He is owned!"

Methinks everybody knows they all are N'esy Pas?









 Marc Martin 
Chantal LeBouthi
Austin only want fake news and divide poeples for his personal agenda of trying to be a politician

Pathetic


Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Chantal LeBouthi As I said to Mr. Herbie Derbie. The same could be said that to Mr. Arseneau of the green party.

Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Chantal LeBouthi

Please provide one.....one incidence where Austin has spread " fake " news and was trying to divide the people...... Kris Austin and the PANB are the most cohesive , positive and believable party out there... Austin says what he means and means what he says... Austin is not afraid to stand corrected or admit when he does not know something.... Austin is going by what he has been told dozens and dozens of times by the paramedics themselves and I will take the word of the paramedics over those of ANB, Medavie, PC's or Liberals any day.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Chantal LeBouthi, pastors are the ones I trust the least.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Mack Leigh, then it's about time he brushes up on science which keeps disproving his fairytale myths.

Chantal LeBouthi
Chantal LeBouthi
@Mack Leigh

You didn’t read the story above it seams

Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Mack Leigh Unfortunately he has got in bed with the blue devil for 18 months and has to keep his mouth shut on this. I hope CUPE will be able to set the record straight.

Donald LeBlanc
Donald LeBlanc
@Chantal LeBouthi Tell it to the two 80 year old seniors who tried to save their son while an ambulance sat 3 minutes away unstaffed.

That’s pathetic.

Chantal LeBouthi
Chantal LeBouthi
@Donald LeBlanc

Really Donald didn’t you read the news about others

John O'Brien
John O'Brien
@Marguerite Deschamps French are the ones I trust the least. Even a French politician from Tracadie noted that she was dismayed at the crime and corruption in the Acadian Peninsula.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@John O'Brien, and you know what we call those who paint everyone with the same brush.

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marguerite Deschamps

Marguerite Deschamps

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@John O'Brien "French are the ones I trust the least." - You said it!

Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@Marguerite Deschamps
@John O Brien is not very civil is he..........hmmmm wonder how come The Donald dint react to him...........2 guesses 1st one don't count............

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "you know what we call those who paint everyone with the same brush."

SANB

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

Talking about people attacking people....

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin Some people here should know.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

Yeah I agree you should now what you do here...









 Marc Martin 
Donald LeBlanc
For some reason this site does not want you to suggest to others that they should be more civil in their postings. They are allowing insulting language but not a request for civility.


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Donald LeBlanc, we're dealing with old dinosaurs here!

Donald LeBlanc
Donald LeBlanc
@Marguerite Deschamps Actually the comment for more civility was posted to you. There is no need to be insulting. As a proud Acadian I find it inappropriate.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Donald LeBlanc Some people here are inappropriate. They seem to attack anyone, doesn't matter which race of people if people don't agree with them.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Donald LeBlanc, kissing up to the likes of le Crisse d"Austin will get you nowhere.

Donald LeBlanc
Donald LeBlanc
@Marguerite Deschamps Again, who is being childish here?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Donald LeBlanc, who is being naive here?

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marguerite Deschamps It seems to be the person asking Mr. Leblanc the question.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Bernard McIntyre, because most on here don't even work, are anti-French spending most of their time harping on here. They pinch their nose pretending to support the self-professed acadien, Mister LeBlanc.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Donald LeBlanc, and you think the COR People Alliance is there for you ti t'acadien? - They showed Laurie Robichaud the door telling him he didn't belong there. Same old, same old!

Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Donald LeBlanc
Civility like rationality and discernment is almost extinct with the now OFF_ON switch of numeracy literacy, et cela dans les deux langues offcielles...et voilà.

Donald LeBlanc
Donald LeBlanc
@Donald LeBlanc Again my response in this thread was disabled. It was civil, an honest question and ended with Have a nice day! This site seems biased.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Donald LeBlanc, someone must have flagged you down. Some do that when they don't like the answer.

Donald LeBlanc
Donald LeBlanc
@Marguerite Deschamps the Liberals did the same to Kevin Arsenault, what’s your point?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Donald LeBlanc, I could not agree with you more! And they paid the price.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "we're dealing with old dinosaurs here!"

Methinks it takes one to know one N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

Your finnaly seeing the way you are !!!

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marguerite Deschamps Some people here seem to be Anti- every body.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin And how am I finally supposed to see me?

Jeff LeBlanc
Jeff LeBlanc
@Donald LeBlanc careful or she will accuse you of being a "fake" Acadian. Just mute her, if we all mute her we take away her voice. I'd also recommend muting Marc Martin. My food tastes better and the air seems so much cleaner now








Marc Martin 
Marc Martin
Time to close the books.
Fact : No live has been lost because of language.
Fact: PANB leader and his acolytes have been proven wrong.
Fact: People who tried to make this a language issue lost...again..
Next debate pls.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin You don't debate

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

I don't have to I always win. How are your friends at the Anglo society Davis ?



No ambulance taken out of service over lack of bilingual staff, ANB says

Mechanical problems, absenteeism among the reasons an ambulance might be parked, officials say


Ambulance New Brunswick officials contradicted Progressive Conservatives on Tuesday, saying language has not been a factor in delays in service. (CBC)

Ambulance New Brunswick has told a committee of MLAs that it has never taken an ambulance out of service because of a lack of bilingual paramedics.

The comment by Medavie's vice-president for Ambulance New Brunswick, Matt Crossman, contradicted Progressive Conservative politicians who have blamed ambulance delays on bilingual hiring requirements.

"We would never take an ambulance out of service for language," he told the legislature's Crown corporations committee. "In fact, we exhaust every call-out list across the province to fill a shift."



Crossman was responding to a question from Progressive Conservative MLA Stewart Fairgrieve, who said he was aware of "speculation" that vacant bilingual-designated positions were to blame for parked ambulances.
 Other Tories, including Premier Blaine Higgs, have said in recent months that the legal requirement for each two-person paramedic crew to provide bilingual service was the reason many ambulances were idle.

Fairgrieve commented Tuesday that "in reality that would be a very rare circumstance" and asked Crossman if he agreed.

'Music to my ears'

 


Matt Crossman, Medavie’s vice-president for Ambulance New Brunswick, told a committee of MLAs that no ambulances have been kept off the road because service couldn't be provided in French and English. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

After Crossman did agree, the Carleton MLA said Crossman's answer matched his experience in his part of the province.

"I don't recall circumstances where an ambulance would have had to have gone out of service for anything other than mechanical reasons," Fairgrieve said.

He added: "I think Ambulance New Brunswick is doing a good job in that regard. The fact that you said 'never' is music to my ears."

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin, who has also linked ambulance delays to bilingual requirements, did not challenge Crossman's comments during his own questioning of ANB officials.
Last year, Higgs said in an interview that relaxing bilingual hiring standards would address delays.

"Is it better to have no ambulance, or is it better to have an ambulance that will serve your needs and be there, and do what it can to provide that service?" he told Radio-Canada.

In December, the PC government announced a plan to relax bilingual hiring requirements in some regions of the province, as proposed by a labour arbitrator's ruling.

But a month later the Tories abandoned that plan and instead directed Ambulance New Brunswick to create "float teams" of unilingual paramedics to fill gaps until bilingual paramedics could be hired.

Recruitment difficult 

 


Progressive Conservative MLA Stewart Fairgrieve said he was happy to hear that ambulances were only ever taken out of service because of mechanical issues. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Government lawyers have also argued in a judicial review of the labour ruling that backing away from bilingual requirements would violate the Official Languages Act and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Austin told reporters he didn't believe Crossman's answer on bilingualism but didn't challenge it during the committee session because the float team concept will resolve the issue.

"Directly, he may be correct," he said. "Indirectly, I think there's much more to it."


People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin didn't challenge Matt Crossman's assertion about a bilingual service but told reporters later that he believes there's more to it. (CBC)

Austin said unilingual paramedics who couldn't get full-time work had been reluctant to temporarily replace bilingual employees in another province. Hiring unilingual paramedics into permanent float-team positions would resolve that, he said.

After the session wrapped up, Fairgrieve said he raised the issue because he "wanted some clarity" about out-of-service ambulances and many constituents had asked him about it.

"There's a lot of misconception about that amongst the public and my line of questioning was to bring clarity to that," he said.

He said he believed the officials "based on what they had to say, based on my own experience, based on what I've seen in my region. I can only speak for my region but yeah, I would believe that."


Richard Losier, the CEO of Medavie Health Services New Brunswick, said there is a light at the end of the tunnel in terms of hiring more paramedics. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Asked if he thought Higgs would believe it, he told reporters, "you'd have to ask the leader that question."

He wouldn't say if he thought the answers would put the issue to rest politically.

"It was a pretty clear answer," he said.

Crossman said the main impact of bilingualism on staffing has been on the recruitment of paramedics from other provinces. He said the heated debate over the hiring requirement creates a perception among potential recruits "that it's a difficult situation to walk into."

Even so, Richard Losier, the CEO of Medavie Health Services New Brunswick, which oversees the ambulance service, told the committee that with several training programs underway, the organization sees "the light at the end of the tunnel" in terms of hiring.

About the Author

 


Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 


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Consumers will pay for NB Power's debt one way or another, intervener says

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Consumers will pay for NB Power's debt one way or another, intervener says



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David Amos
David Amos
Methinks it was very interesting that after I listened to Public Intervener Heather Black talk on radio on the way to Saint John she offered no comment during the EUB Hearing yesterday as the NB Power's lawyer, the EUB and and their pals had a Battle Royale with me on the public record N'esy Pas?






Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
On a positive note, with renewable energy, living off the grid looks more and more like an alternative option.
 

Samual Johnston
Samual Johnston
@Marguerite Deschamps looks better than it did but still way more expensive than grid power

David Amos
David Amos 
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you are no doubt well aware byway of this interview the latest political boss of your favourite ex SANB president Mr Arseneau advised all interested New Brunswickers to intervene in the EUB 430 Matter if they could find the time.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-crown-corporations-committee-1.4980763

As your cohort admitted yesterday my Roger Richard and I took the Watermelon Party's advice and did so. All government employees such as Mr Martin should know that the transcript of the first hearing will be available and downloadable from the EUB website shortly N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ambulance-lack-bilingual-staff-anb-1.5006740?__vfz=profile_comment%3D3305300018323

@David Amos "Methinks I should ask why nobody showed up at the EUB hearing today N'esy Pas"

@Marc Martin "You badgered us all week you where going, we placed all our fates in you...."






Consumers will pay for NB Power's debt one way or another, intervener says

Public intervener says storms and other unforeseen costs have thwarted utility's debt-reduction plan


In 2011 the utility said it would pay down $1 billion in debt by 2025, but a mixture of problems has made that difficult. (Michael Heenan/CBC)

New Brunswickers will feel pain no matter how NB Power pays off its debt, and the only questions are how severe and how long-lasting the pain will be, says public intervener Heather Black.

NB Power has a responsibility to pay down its debt, something it has been trying to do since 2011, Black said on Information Morning.

In 2011, the utility said it would pay down $1 billion in debt by 2025.



Black said that goal was achievable in 2011, but it became more difficult to realize as time went on.
"Since then NB Power has had a significant amount of trouble meeting its income targets, net income targets, and hasn't made progress towards debt reduction really."

Black cited a mixture of reasons for missing income targets, including unforeseen costs related to buying electricity, the Point Lepreau nuclear station, and storms.

Commodity prices, climate change

 


NB Power CFO Darren Murphy said commodity prices and climate change are two factors in the utility's inability to pay down the debt. (CBC)

At the legislature's standing committee on Crown corporations this week, NB Power CFO Darren Murphy said the projections in 2011 were made using commodity price data available at the time, but the information has significantly changed since then.

"As those prices change we see significant changes in our underlying costs," Murphy said.
Murphy told the committee that climate change has also played a role in the utility's ability to pay down its debt.

"We certainly did not have, built into those long-range plans, the idea that storm frequency and magnitude of the impacts would be as great as they are," said Murphy.

NB Power has asked permission from the Energy and Utilities Board for a yearly average rate increase of 2.5 per cent until 2029 to help the utility reduce the debt.

But documents NB Power filed with the board also point to a more drastic option to reduce the debt: a 22.3 per cent rate increase over five years.

Positives and negatives

 


Public intervener Heather Black said that until NB Power looks after its debt, it risks not having a cushion to look after unforeseen problems. (Robert Jones/CBC)

 Black said both options have negative elements.

The 2025 plan would have the unwanted effect of implementing a seep rate increase but would reduce the debt faster.

The 2029 plan would see a more subdued rate increase, but the utility would have to keep its debt longer.

"Until that reduction is achieved, rate payers still bear the risk of NB Power not having that cushion of equity to be able to be prepared for unforeseen things that happen or future expenditures," Black said.

This could lead to more erratic rate increases, she said, since NB Power will be reacting to unforeseen events without being able to absorb the costs.
With files from Information Morning Fredericton and Connell Smith

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Methinks Harper, Jagmeet Singh, Dominic Cardy and the ghosts of Jack Layton and Paul Dewar remember this old email from 2006 about the War in Afghanistan N'esy Pas?

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http://davidamos.blogspot.com/2006/05/harper-and-bankers.html



    From: "NDP Hants West"hantswestndp@ns.aliantzinc.ca
    To: "David Amos"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: Your call, emails
    Date:Mon, 22 May 2006 19:00:16 -0300

    Hi David,

    Thanks for your call of today. I advised Sean of it and your
    concerns. He is very busy right now doing the door to door visits
of the campaign. Please watch on election night and when he becomes
part of the NS Legislature, it might be a better time for him to look
at addressing your concerns.

    Sincerely,
    Debbie McLaughlin
    Sean Bennett's Campaign Manager

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: David Amos
    To: calummackenzie@nsndp.ca
    Cc: clarriemackinnon@ns.ndp.ca ; davidmangle@nsndp.ca ;
    janematheson@nsndp.ca ; jimmorton@nsndp.ca ; timmurphy@nsndp.ca ;
    percyparis@nsndp.ca ; lindapower@nsndp.ca ; sidneyprest@nsndp.ca ;
    preyra@ns.ndp.ca ; raymond@nsndp.ca ; billsmith@nsndp.ca ;
    drbillsmithndp@ns.aliantzinc.ca ; dougsparks@nsndp.ca ;
    matwhynott@nsndp.ca ; trevorzinck@nsndp.ca ; garyburrill@nsndp.ca ;
    robassels@nsndp.ca ; sterlingbelliveau@ns.ndp.ca ;
    seanbennett@nsndp.ca ; jimboudreau@nsndp.ca ; myrtlecampbell@nsndp.ca
    ; paulcomeau@nsndp.ca ; vickiconrad@nsndp.ca ; jamiecrane@nsndp.ca ;
    info@jamiecrane.ca ; johndeveau@nsndp.ca ; jimharpell@nsndp.ca ;
    chrisheide@nsndp.ca ; greghubbert@nsndp.ca ; russellmacdonald@nsndp.ca
    ; annmac@eastlink.ca ; andrewmacdonald@nsndp.ca ;
    dannymacgillivray@nsndp.ca ; danny@dannyndp.ca ;
    calummackenzie@nsndp.ca
    Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:12 PM
    Subject: Re: Your call, emails

    What is your name or who is your lawyer? Graham Steele?

    calummackenzie@nsndp.ca wrote:

    Dear Mr. Amos:

    Thank you for your interest in Calum MacKenzie as the NDP
candidate for Annapolis.

    We appreciate views from all of the residents of Annapolis
    constituency and welcome lively and interesting debate on issues
    affecting our communities. Having said that, and as I was trying to
    explain to you on the phone, George W. Bush and the US government
do not fall under the influence of provincial MLAs and policy.

    We are fighting a provincial campaign. You'll not likely find one
NDP member defending Bush, however, it is simply not a provincial
matter.

    I would like to let you know, in a formal way, that your threats to
    sue Mr. MacKenzie, your aggresive behaviour on the phone and your
    inappropriate language in the emails are not appreciated.

    As the campaign manager for Mr. MacKenzie I feel I must inform you
    that this campaign will not tolerate intimidating, aggressive or
threatening behaviour from anyone and any such acts will be acted upon
in the future.
    Tuesday, May 26, 2009
Blogger David Raymond Amos said...

    Subject: RE: Portions of wiretap tapes to impeach George W. Bush
and put a stop
    Harper's motion tommorrow
    Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:49:47 -0400
    From: "Dewar, Paul - M.P."Dewar.P@parl.gc.ca
    To: "David Amos"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com

    Hi David. My name is James and I have been asked to send this
message onto you from Paul…

    Dear Mr. Amos,

    Thank you for informing me of your concerns regarding Canada 's role
    in Afghanistan after February 2007.

    The NDP voted against this motion because we believe it is the wrong
    mission for Canada . It does not reflect the peace-making values
that Canadians want to see our forces undertake on the world stage.
This forced motion essentially ties our aid and development funds to
war-making, and we cannot support that.

    It is quite clear that Harper's Conservatives aren't interested in
due diligence. They're interested in dragging us further into a
US-style combat role and away from our traditional peace keeping role.
Much like the Liberals before them, the Conservatives have failed to
tell Canadians:

    - What the chain of command and control will be for this mission.

    - What the definition of success will be for our troops.

    - What our exit strategy will be.

    Many Canadians have written me wanting answers and it is our duty
as representatives of our constituents, to get answers before
committing to any new missions overseas. As any soldier knows, time
spent on reconnaissance is never wasted.

    New Democrats recognize that Canada does have a role in assisting
Afghanis in rebuilding their country. Afghanistan is the largest
recipient of Canadian overseas development aid and we fully support
the continuation of that funding - outside of this mission.

    Thank you again for the time and effort you have taken to share your
    thoughts with me, and for bringing your opinion on this matter to my
    attention.

    Sincerely,

    Paul Dewar, MP Ottawa Centre

    From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com]
    Sent: May 16, 2006 8:13 PM
    To: Allen, Mike - M.P.; rcastrocalvo@yahoo.com; irislana@hotmail.com;
    Angus, Charlie - M.P.; Atamanenko, Alex - M.P.; Bell, Catherine -
    M.P.; Bevington, Dennis - M.P.; Black, Dawn - M.P.; Blaikie, Bill -
    M.P.; Charlton, Chris - M.P.; Chow, Olivia - M.P.; Christopherson,
David - M.P.; Comartin, Joe - M.P.; Crowder, Jean - M.P.; Cullen,
Nathan - M.P.; Davies, Libby - M.P.; Dewar, Paul - M.P.; Julian,
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    M.P.; Priddy, Penny - M.P.; Savoie, Denise - M.P.; Siksay, Bill -
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    Subject: Portions of wiretap tapes to impeach George W. Bush and put a
    stop Harper's motion tommorrow
    Tuesday, May 26, 2009
Blogger David Raymond Amos said...

    Hey

    Before all the Parliamentarians argue and then vote to support
    further Canadian deaths in one of George W. Bush's Wars for Global
    Control for the benefit of his corporate cohorts perhaps, you
should at least listen to the attachments if you do not wish to bother
to read what Billy Casey and the Bankers got on May 12th. If I can
assist in preventing the demise of just one more Canadian warrior in a
malicious foreign war, all of my work will have been worth it EH?

    If everyone ignores me as usual, I will not be surprised. At least
I will sleep well with my conscience tonight because I know I have
done my very best to stop the nonsense since early 2002 long before
the War in Iraq began. None of you deserve to sleep well at all
    because you all supported Harper's orders to send our people to war
    even before the 39th Parliament sat this year. As far as I am
    concerned the blood of four very honourable soldiers can be found on
    your hands. Shame on all of you for not even bothering to honour
our dead by lowering the flag on the Peacetower. As long as I have
been aware and could consider myself a Proad Canadian, I thought we
were peacekeepers rather than poorly paid hired guns for crooked
    corporations, corrupt politicians and their wicked Yankee bible
    pounding buddies.

    Veritas Vincit
    David Raymond Amos


    FEDERAL EXPRESS February 7, 2006

    Senator Arlen Specter
    United States Senate
    Committee on the Judiciary
    224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
    Washington, DC 20510

    Dear Mr. Specter:

    I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
    named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the
matters raised in the attached letter. Mr. Amos has represented to me
that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes. I believe Mr. Amos has been
in contact with you about this previously.

    Very truly yours,
    Barry A. Bachrach
    Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
    Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
    Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com

    Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 00:00:53 -0700 (PDT)

    From: "David Amos"motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
    Subject: Jumping Jimmy Flaherty's jump boots versus Crosbie's old
    mukluks in a liberal Senate
    To: Grant.GARNEAU@gnb.ca, Russell_Feingold@feingold.senate.gov,
duffy@ctv.ca, tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com,
Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us, Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us,
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It proved to be a bad omen, given that the Conservative government of
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    The mukluks proved to be symbolic of Joe Clark's short-lived
    administration -- overconfident and blind to convention. As Crosbie
    observed in his memoirs, Clark "decided to govern as though we had
a majority, a decision that was as arrogant as it was presumptuous."

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Methinks Harper, Jagmeet Singh, Dominic Cardy and the ghosts of Jack Layton and Paul Dewar remember this old email from 2006 about the War in Afghanistan N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/paul-dewar-dead-brain-cancer-1.4822073


Politician, advocate, husband and father Paul Dewar succumbs to brain cancer

Former MP went public with glioblastoma diagnosis in June 2018


Paul Dewar was elected to the House of Commons in Ottawa Centre in 2006. He was re-elected twice, holding the seat until 2015. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

When former Ottawa Centre MP Paul Dewar was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer early in 2018, he was given some straightforward advice: Face death and walk back into life.

Dewar, who died at 5:15 a.m. Wednesday, did both, with all the dignity and purpose he could muster.
According to a statement from his family issued Wednesday, Dewar was with his wife, Julia Sneyd, and sons Nathaniel and Jordan when he died.


He was 56 years old.


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Paul Dewar, politician and advocate, has died
 Diagnosed with terminal brain cancer early in 2018, Paul Dewar has died. 3:03

Before his death, Dewar wrote a letter that his family posted on Facebook Wednesday. He said his illness made him truly appreciate the beauty in the world.

"I told you that I thought my illness was a gift and I genuinely meant that. In this time in between, I got to see the wonder of the world around us."

On Feb. 14, 2018, Dewar underwent surgery to remove a large tumour caused by the same incurable brain cancer that had killed Tragically Hip frontman Gord Downie just a few months earlier.
Dewar chose to go public with his glioblastoma diagnosis in June 2018. He won widespread praise for facing his impending death with courage and grace, and for his resolute approach to the time he had left.

"It's Grade 4, which is terminal. There is no cure," Dewar told Robyn Bresnahan, host of CBC Radio's Ottawa Morning. In the same interview he also revealed he'd undergone the full range of treatment, including surgery, radiation and chemotherapy.

"Then you hope for the best in terms of how much time you have to live."


As the disease progressed, Dewar's brain tumour affected his motor control, impairing movement in his left arm. Because he was left-handed, tying shoes and writing became more difficult. (Giacomo Panico/CBC)

Strong voice for human rights 


The support and admiration he received during his illness crossed party lines.

In an interview with Rosemary Barton, host of CBC's The National, Dewar spoke of how MPs had reached out and shown him "love and support" in his illness — including Environment Minister Catherine McKenna, who defeated Dewar in Ottawa Centre in 2015.

"While we may sit on different sides of the aisle, we're all colleagues together," a visibly shaken McKenna said in the House of Commons after news broke of Dewar's diagnosis.


Dewar, seen here during question period in the House of Commons in April 2013, was a strong advocate for human rights around the world and often berated the government for what he saw as Canada's failings abroad. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

Politics in the family


Politics was a family affair for the former teacher. His mother was former MP and Ottawa mayor Marion Dewar. Dewar won the Ottawa Centre riding in the January 2006 federal election, taking over from former NDP leader Ed Broadbent.

On his first day on the job, Dewar told CBC he was aware of the high expectations resting on his shoulders.

"Yes, there is a gulp in my throat," he said.

Dewar retained his seat through the 2008 and 2011 elections, winning a reputation as an engaging, down-to-earth politician.

Opposition critic


Then-opposition leader Jack Layton appointed Dewar foreign affairs critic, and he continued to hector the Conservative government over Canada's failure to intervene in social injustices around the world.

During his nine years in office, Dewar championed many causes. He called on the Conservatives to denounce Uganda after its parliament introduced an anti-LGBT bill that included life in prison for those convicted. He spoke out against the mass murder of civilians in the Darfur region of Sudan. He criticized human rights abuses in Iran and Saudi Arabia, to which Canada had sold armoured vehicles.

He also condemned Canada's dwindling role in global peacekeeping, penning an editorial chiding the Conservatives for "a pattern of disengagement and withdrawal from the international community" and warning of the dire consequences of Canada's new "arrogant isolationism."


Paul Dewar's mother, former Ottawa mayor Marion Dewar, spearheaded Project 4000, a campaign that brought 4,000 refugees fleeing Vietnam to Ottawa under private sponsorship. (CBC)
Dewar also refused to remain silent on issues closer to home, such as the raw sewage that for years had flowed into the Ottawa River during heavy downpours, the city's lack of cycling infrastructure and the need for affordable housing at LeBreton Flats.

Dewar was also a vocal defender of federal public servants, especially when it came to threats against the independence of government scientists.

After Layton's death in August 2011, Dewar announced his candidacy for NDP leader, but withdrew after finishing poorly on the first ballot.

Advocate for refugees


Dewar watched in 1979 as his mother, then mayor, spearheaded Project 4000, a campaign to bring 4,000 desperate Vietnamese "boat people" to Ottawa. In 2015, Dewar picked up that mantle, urging the Conservative government to fast-track thousands of Syrian refugees fleeing that country's bloody civil war.

Speaking in 2015, the day after photos of three-year-old Syrian refugee Alan Kurdi's corpse on a Turkish beach horrified the world, Dewar issued a call to action.
"Sometimes it takes that kind of image, and it was those images that my mother saw on the TV in 1979 that pushed her to act," Dewar said.

Dewar often acknowledged his mother's strong influence on his own politics.

"My mom was a strong feminist, and she said something very important and I learned at an early age:

Don't be afraid of power, know how to use and share it, and give it to those who don't have it."


Paul Dewar is flanked by his family after losing Ottawa Centre to Liberal Catherine McKenna in October 2015. (CBC News)

Created youth movement


After going public with his diagnosis, Dewar created Youth Action Now, an initiative to raise money to help engage young people to get involved in their communities. That movement will be among his lasting legacies.

As his disease progressed, Dewar took part in an immunotherapy drug trial at a Gatineau, Que., clinic aimed at prolonging his life.

"I really want more time with those two guys and Julia," Dewar told CBC, his voice cracking with emotion.

"If I could steal more time, and hopefully I will, that's what I want."

A celebration of Dewar's life is expected to be announced in the coming days.




Methinks its interesting that as Andy Acker was whining to CBC NB Power's lawyers want to argue the documents I sent him in 2007 after he stole my Harley N'esy Pas?

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/towing-move-over-law-new-brunswick-1.5007693



Tow operator optimistic government will extend move-over law to protect industry




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David Amos 
David Amos
Wow on the same day Acker is whining to CBC NB Power's lawyers want to argue the documents I sent him in 2007 after he stole my Harley









Emilien Forest 
Marc Bourque
Why stop there,must include also any vehicle stopped on the side of the road,even if they dont having flashing lights.You pull over to read a map or talk on a cell,you are in the same boat as those who tow vehicles or emergency personal.Do the right hing folks slow down a tad and dont rubber neck to see whats going on!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Bourque I wholeheartedly agree sir










Emilien Forest 
Gord Thomas
It's common sense to pull over to the other lane when you see anyone pulled over on the side of the hwy, but then again there are some out there that do not have any common sense.


David Amos
David Amos 
 @Gord Thomas "but then again there are some out there that do not have any common sense"

Methinks common sense is a rare thing in New Brunswick when a former President of the SANB and a current MLA pretends that he does not know what that is N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/green-mla-comments-1.4922740

Nazi reference in poor taste but doesn't break rules, Speaker decides

"Green MLA Kevin Arseneau has been critical of People Alliance Leader Kris Austin's use of the phrase 'common sense,' suggesting it disguises an agenda to undermine francophone rights."







Emilien Forest 
Michael Hunt
Hi Andy haven't seen ya in a while , your getting to old and slow to be driving a tow truck anyway !


David Amos
David Amos
@Michael Hunt Methinks you should ask your buddy why his lawyer hasn't answered me yet N'esy Pas?








Emilien Forest
Emilien Forest
Common sense usually dictates the action of any individual unfortunately sense is not usually common. Grouping a tow truck driver along with first responders does not fit this category. I've witnessed on numerous occasions tow truck drivers driving on highways and streets with disregard to other motorists so perhaps their-own-dime-training should be the first step.


Jim Johnston
Jim Johnston
@Emilien Forest Just like drivers there are some tow truck drivers that are not good drivers. Probably worse drivers in the police forces (Fredericton - although they are improving). Nova Scotia's law seems reasonable and provides the direction clearly
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David Amos
David Amos
@Emilien Forest "I've witnessed on numerous occasions tow truck drivers driving on highways and streets with disregard to other motorists "

Me Too Furthermore they stole my Harley too

David Amos
David Amos 
@Emilien Forest One year after I ran in the election of the 39th Parliament against Andy Scott in Fredericton this was in the news.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-woman-dies-after-being-hit-by-tow-truck-1.584767

"A University of New Brunswick student died Thursday after being struck by a tow truck in Fredericton.

Cpl. Martin Gaudet, spokesman for the Fredericton Police Department, said 26-year-old Leslie Bruce was walking on the highway behind the Aitken Centre when she was hit by the truck.

It was the second accident involving a pedestrian in Fredericton on Thursday. A 50-year-old man lost his left leg after he was pinned between a truck and a guardrail in another area of the city."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/accident-victim-urges-drivers-walkers-to-slow-down-1.577098

"Fredericton city council has requested a report from police on why there are so many car-pedestrian accidents, and ways to avoid them".

I never heard of any results to any report. Methinks everybody should understand that I was not surprised that Cpl. Martin Gaudet of Fat Fred City Finest asked his buddies at Capital Towing to steal my Harley N'esy Pas?




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Tow operator optimistic government will extend move-over law to protect industry

PC MLAs who called for the changes last year are now cabinet ministers


Andrew Aker, co-owner of Capital Towing, says he hopes the Progressive Conservative government acts on recommendations to add tow trucks under the province's move-over law. (Joe McDonald/CBC)


A New Brunswick tow truck operator is optimistic the province will implement changes to its move-over law  recommended last year that could help protect the industry.

 Andrew Aker, co-owner of Capital Towing in Hanwell, said discussions with the previous Liberal government resulted in recommendations to update the Motor Vehicle Act.

He hopes the Progressive Conservative government that took power in November will act on those recommendations.



 "We're hoping to nudge the government along a little bit to see whether they're going to follow up on what was done during the Liberal tenure," said Aker. "I think there's reason for optimism."

The "move-over" provisions of the Motor Vehicle Act enacted in 2013 require drivers to slow down and move to the left when fire trucks, ambulances and police vehicles are stopped with their emergency lights activated. Tow trucks aren't covered by the law.

Aker said a tow truck driver was injured in a crash on the Trans-Canada Highway in Moncton on Tuesday — a reminder of the dangers of working on the side of highways as vehicles zoom past.
"I think if we just relax and say we got lucky (Tuesday) and we don't look to make changes or accept suggestions on how we can improve the situation, we've lost an opportunity," Aker said.

Last March, PC MLAs Ernie Steeves and Carl Urquhart introduced a motion calling on the Liberal government to add tow trucks, carry out an education campaign on the law and add roadside signs.

"We are asking for it to happen for sure so that people know that they have to move over,"

Steeves said in the legislature March 15. "It is a small ask. It is a cheap ask, and we are asking that the government please respond in a positive way to this motion."

It passed with Liberal support for improved education. Because it was only a motion and not a bill, the law didn't change.

Urquhart is now the province's public safety minister and Steeves finance minister.


Andrew Aker says he's optimistic because several PC MLAs voiced support for changes to the move-over law last year before they became ministers. (Joe McDonald/CBC)

Province reviewing law


CBC requested an interview with Steeves and Urquhart on Wednesday. No interviews were provided.
Alexandra Davis, a spokesperson for the public safety department, said in an emailed statement the province is reviewing move-over provisions of the Motor Vehicle Act. Davis said it is also looking at the rules in other provinces.

Tow trucks were added to move-over rules in Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island last year. Newfoundland and Labrador, Ontario, Manitoba are among other provinces with similar rules, according to the Canadian Automobile Association.

In Nova Scotia, the law is broader than in New Brunswick.

It covers public safety officers, tow truck operators, emergency personnel, conservation officers and motor vehicle inspectors. It also requires drivers to slow down to at least 60 km/h for vehicles pulled over with emergency lights activated.

Aker said a weakness of New Brunswick's law is that it doesn't specify a speed for drivers who are passing emergency vehicles.


Nova Scotia RCMP Const. Francis (Frank) Deschenes was killed near Memramcook in September 2017 helping a motorist change a flat tire. Nova Scotia implemented changes to its move-over law after his death. (RCMP)

Nova Scotia's changes followed the death of Francis Deschênes. The Amherst-based Mountie was killed when he was hit by a cargo van on Sept. 12, 2017 on the Trans-Canada Highway south of Moncton. He was helping a motorist change a flat tire.

The Mountie worked for a traffic unit and had promoted move-over laws in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. Originally from northern New Brunswick, he was in the process of being transferred to Codiac RCMP in Moncton.

Deschênes widow, Savannah Deschênes, went to Nova Scotia's legislature to support move-over changes and has also lobbied for changes in New Brunswick.


Savannah Deschênes, the widow of RCMP Const. Frank Deschênes, wears his dog tags. She was at the Nova Scotia Legislature on March 6, 2018. (Jean Laroche/CBC)

Steeves said last year he introduced the motion in the New Brunswick legislature after being contacted by Savannah Deschênes.

She still hopes the province will implement the change.

"I think the government needs to promote, promote, promote such as put signs up, do mail outs and put this in the young drivers handbook/testing," Savannah Deschênes said in a Facebook message Wednesday. "This would be a start."

About the Author

 


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Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC. 


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-woman-dies-after-being-hit-by-tow-truck-1.584767



Fredericton woman dies after being hit by tow truck

A University of New Brunswick student died Thursday after beingstruck by a tow truck in Fredericton.

Cpl. Martin Gaudet, spokesman for the Fredericton Police Department, said 26-year-old Leslie Bruce was walking on the highway behind the Aitken Centre when she was hit by the truck.

It was the second accident involving a pedestrian in Fredericton on Thursday. A 50-year-old man lost his left leg afterhe was pinned between a truck and a guardrail in another area of the city. He is expected to recover.

Gaudet said an investigation is underway in both cases.

There's such a wide variety of why these accidents take place," he said. "Driver error, pedestrian error, weather conditions. ... It's very important for us to do a thorough investigation to be fair to all parties."

Bruce was the 28th pedestrian to be struck by a car in the city this year and the second to die.

Fredericton police have begun a special study on pedestrian accidents in the city.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/accident-victim-urges-drivers-walkers-to-slow-down-1.577098


Accident victim urges drivers, walkers to slow down

A Fredericton woman who was hit and dragged 14 metres by a commercial van last month is urging drivers and pedestrians to watch out for each other.

"Sometimes pedestrians don't pay attention and they really need to," said Tanya Brown, 30, who was crossing an intersection on Bishop Drive on Nov. 3 when she was hit. "Walking is really good for your health and things like that, and you have to be careful and look both ways before crossing.

"For drivers too, they need to stop and just take their time to get where they are going and not be in such a hurry."

The accident left Brown with multiple fractures, including a broken femur, pelvis and ribs, a punctured lung and a sprained foot. She spent three weeks in hospital.

She's nowrecovering at home, butcan't work yet and is using a walker to get around.

Brown isamong 28 people hit by cars in Fredericton this year, and medical and law enforcement officials are concerned.

Last Thursday, a 50-year-old man lost his leg when he was hit and pinned against a guardrail. Later that day, a 26-year-old student was struck and killed by a tow truck while crossing a stretch of highway near the University of New Brunswick.

Brown feels lucky to have survived, and says both drivers and pedestrians need to slow down.

"Well, I think I was pretty fortunate, and I think it was a miracle I survived that accident. My injuries sound like they might have been pretty severe, but it could have been a lot worse."

Awoke to pain

She doesn't remember getting hit, but remembers how she felt when she awoke.

"When I woke up, I was down the street some. And I remember waking up and was in a lot of pain, I was really cold and I remember seeing all this blood around my head."

Fredericton city council has requested a report from police on why there are so many car-pedestrian accidents, and waysto avoid them.

Police say no charge has been laid against the driver of the van, but the matter is still under investigation.

Brown is expected to start physiotherapy on her leg this week. She says her recovery has been difficult.

"My body is used to doing a lot of walking and stuff, so right now it feels kind of weird that I can't walk too long or stand too long, so I guess eventually it will get better and I'll be able to do a bit more."
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/tow-truck-law-caa-road-side-accidents-safety-1.4193092




'They just don't slow down': Tow truck drivers seek revision of 'move over' law

'Move over' law includes police, ambulance and fire trucks but not tow trucks

Brent Dunphy, a tow truck driver in New Brunswick for 14 years, said he's noticed a lot of distracted drivers and people going much faster in recent years. (CBC)
 
 
Tow truck driver Brent Dunphy still remembers the day he had to dive for cover under a truck because of an inattentive driver who nearly clipped him on the side of a highway.

"I've had a few close calls," said the 14-year veteran driver. "I haven't gotten hit yet, but they just don't slow down, they don't move over, they don't give you the courtesy whatsoever."

Dunphy is one of dozens of tow truck drivers, along with the Canadian Automobile Association, asking New Brunswick to revise a law requiring vehicles to move into the left lane when passing emergency and roadwork vehicles.

'Move over' law revision sought


New Brunswick passed the 'move over' law in 2013. It requires drivers to slow down and, where possible, move into the left lane when emergency vehicles are pulled off the road with their lights flashing. 

New Brunswick tow truck drivers want the province to revise a law requiring vehicles to move into the left lane when passing emergency and road worker vehicles. 0:47
 
Police, ambulance and fire trucks are protected by this the law, but tow trucks are not — despite the drivers being at equal risk.

Driver Tovey Clendenning is still recovering from injuries he sustained four months ago on a dead-end road on the north side of Fredericton when an SUV crashed into his truck, sending him flying eight feet through the air.

"When you are on the side of the road, side of the highway, you are watching all the time, your head's on a swivel," he said. "But you let your guard down on a dead-end street and then bang. Can't let your guard down, I guess."
I haven't gotten hit yet, but they just don't slow down, they don't move over, they don't give you the courtesy whatsoever.- Tow truck driver Brent Dunphy
Clendenning suffered torn ligaments in his knee and leg, which was pinned between the two vehicles during the crash.

He was talking to a customer and had his back to the approaching SUV, he said.

The driver was blinded by the sun, and hit the front of the tow truck and then the door, behind which Clendenning stood.

"I got lucky. I could be in a wheelchair ... or worse."

Anyone who violates the provisions of the law will be fined almost $300 and lose three points off of their driver's licence.
Four months after an SUV crashed into his tow truck, Tovey Clendenning is still recovering from his injuries. (Catherine Harrop/CBC)
 
 
Dunphy said he's noticed a lot of distracted drivers and people going much faster in recent years.
He hopes changing the law will raise more awareness on roadside safety and remind people to pay more attention.

"If it saves one life, then we've won," he said.

Other provinces already made changes


Gary Howard, spokesperson for CAA Atlantic, said the association has tried for four years to get the government to revise the 'move over' law.

Because of the change of government two years ago, the association had to restart its discussion, he said.

"I think we're making some good progress now, so I expect this is something that we will see this year," he said.

Gary Howard, spokesman for CAA Atlantic, said the association has been trying for four years to get the government to revise the 'move over' law. (Gary Howard/Twitter)
 
 
He added the association is also talking to governments in P.E.I. and Nova Scotia.

 "Newfoundland has it as part of their legislation, as well as Ontario, Manitoba and a few other provinces," he said.

The Department of Justice and Public Safety said in an emailed statement to the CBC that it is aware of the industry's concerns.

"We are also aware that tow trucks are included in similar laws in provinces like Ontario and Quebec," said Elaine Bell, department spokesperson.

"We're examining what is going on in the jurisdictions to see what kind of best practices they are developing as well as challenges they are facing, if any."

A car crashed into a Capital towing truck on Vanier highway in February 2017. The truck weighed 14,000 pounds, was 32 feet long and had multiple, flashing light systems. (Allan MacPhee/Supplied)
 
Bell added the department recommends that motorists encountering tow trucks on the side of the road "approach at a slower speed and move to a passing lane if possible and only if safe to do so."

With files from Catherine Harrop

Trudeau under fire over claim he pressured justice minister to intervene in SNC-Lavalin fraud case

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Trudeau under fire over claim he pressured justice minister to intervene in SNC-Lavalin fraud case




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Al Kennedy
Irv Millar
The straws are being grasped. A mountain and the mole hill. The only way the Conservatives know how to govern. In blame, but no self-blame. There's mirrors for that eh?


Frank G. Castiglione
Frank G. Castiglione
@Irv Millar the boy wonders swan song.

steve curtis
steve curtis
@Irv Millar
Just wake up?

Max Ruger
Max Ruger
@Irv Millar Are you insane ? This has nothing to do with the Conservatives. They didn't break the story, the Globe and Mail did. How can you defend this ?

William Martin
William Martin
@Irv Millar Yes trying to alter an ongoing investigation is making a mountain out of a mole hill. SMH.

Irv Millar
Irv Millar
@steve curtis Nope. I have memories of a former PM that sold out a national legacy, CN, then moved onto the nation, NAFTA. You remember what party this was/is do you not?

steve curtis
steve curtis
@Irv Millar
J T and his daddy, from what I remember. You a banker? "cause you sure love the sell out.

Irv Millar
Irv Millar
@Max Ruger The Conservatives and SNC Lavalin have a storied past. Read the Globe and Mail articles on this latest Conservative stab/grab for election traction. Then do a little research into the likes of Dr. Porter and the whole cabal that fleeced the nation. Then you'll have a better perspective.

Felix Culpa
Felix Culpa
@Irv Millar
Sure. Chrétien sold CN in 1995. I think he was a Liberal. Mulroney signed NAFTA, a good deal for Canada, but somewhat diminished thanks to Trump and the current PM.

Irv Millar
Irv Millar
@steve curtis Did you read the Globe and Mail articles?

Irv Millar
Irv Millar
@Felix Culpa Wrong. Read a little more then get back to us.

Daryl McBride
Daryl McBride
@Irv Millar 166 votes in 19 minutes, is that a record?

Bert Law
Bert Law
@Daryl McBride

actually it only took 15 seconds.

i was watching

Daryl McBride
Daryl McBride
@Bert Law same thing happened with the Khadr story.

Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis
@Irv Millar

Nice hack of the system.

Bert Law
Bert Law
@Daryl McBride

I suggest report it to the ombudsman here.

Donald Patrick
Donald Patrick
@Jamie Gillis Sickening isn't it? So bloody blatant.

Bert Law
Bert Law
@Jamie Gillis

yup. first comment. 170 up votes.

second only 12 .... obviously hacked

Rick Meyer
Rick Meyer
@Jamie Gillis

Everyone needs to flag the fake top calm mints

david kirby
david kirby
@Bert Law
That will do no good at all. I tried it once

William Martin
William Martin
@Irv Millar Here is another post where the votes were rigged.

Daryl McBride
Daryl McBride
@William Martin I took a video of the manipulation, who to send it to?

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Daryl McBride YouTube it.

Phil Mein
Phil Mein
@Irv Millar No need to grasp at straws, like his stay on the private island he "didn't see any ethical breach" with until it was explained what the definition is. Justin already has a LONG list of transgressions he needs to explain to Canadians, no doubt you'll all be here frothing at the mouth trying to defend his shortcomings, , which is great , because HERE at the CBC you're all preaching to the Liberal choir , meaning you're all just having ZERO influence on anybody outside of your shallow pool of cheerleaders. October is gonna e great !

Al Kennedy
Al Kennedy
@Irv Millar
You are wrong. Chretien sold CNR in 1995. Then Chretien sold the Port of Churchill , which includes the grain elevator and the Churchill Fuel Terminal, to OmniTRAX in 1997. OmniTRAX owns the Hudson Bay Railroad and the rail line that runs from The Pas to Churchill. And Chretien got elected in his promise to "tear up that NAFTA" and get rid of the GST.

Al Kennedy
Al Kennedy
@Irv Millar
And I forgot to mention that the company that Chretien sold the port to is an American company.

David Amos
David Amos
@Irv Millar Methinks if you knew what I know you would sing a different tune Lets just say anyone can surf the net using certain names and mine as well N'esy Pas?

Jenna Collins
Jenna Collins
@Irv Millar
How in the world did this comment make it to the most liked? I've been ban-ned from this site for commenting off topic and yet here you are.








Jenna Collins
Shawn Wylie
The accused has a right to question the accuser who is conveniently an anonymous source, until actual evidence is put forward this is a non starter.



Steve Sax
Steve Sax
@Shawn Wylie

Ya. All those anonymous sources that have attacked Trump. But that’s okay as long it suits your narrative

William Martin
William Martin
@Shawn Wylie Would you be so generous with a different government?

Shawn Wylie
Shawn Wylie
@Steve Sax Ah one of the sheep can talk.
Shawn Wylie
Shawn Wylie
@William Martin I would be the same with any government, I don't hold any party affiliation as any smart voter would do, you go by the facts that are presented and so far non have been presented.

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Shawn Wylie Would you rather talk about MP Grewal?

Shawn Wylie
Shawn Wylie
@Ron Brady ?

Robert Tyre
Robert Tyre
@Shawn Wylie seems though we never get to the "evidence". Things get buried, sealed, people get leaned on, orders come down, and voila, house (mansion) arrest and a tax deductible fine equal to pocket change.

Shawn Wylie
Shawn Wylie
@Steve Sax If your a fan of Trump you are a sheep, he's been a con man all his life and has ripped of people to get his small fortune, his famous line is sue me, same line he used for running a fake charity and his family using it as their piggy bank, have a nice life.


Al Kennedy
Al Kennedy
@Shawn Wylie
What about asking the person at the center of this? Oh yes they did, and she would neither confirm or deny it.
hmmm?

Shawn Wylie
Shawn Wylie
@Robert Tyre Be patient, get the facts before making decisions, if there is anything to it it will come out. We're leading up to the elections and unfortunately the Reform/PC's of late have been well known for starting false rumours and news.

Shawn Wylie
Shawn Wylie
@Al Kennedy So what's your point, or are you just going to automatically make a judgement based on nothing?

Shawn Wylie
Shawn Wylie
@Ron Brady Good deflection.

Al Kennedy
Al Kennedy
@Shawn Wylie
Well if the allegations were false, why wouldn't she say that?

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Shawn Wylie lol ... what ???
 
Jenna Collins
Jenna Collins
@Shawn Wylie
Someone here on this site has given you a lot of likes for this comment. The like/dislike manipulation is back.

David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn Wylie Methinks a few fancy people have been much embarrassed by anonymous sources over the years However I am not anonymous and did in fact sue the Crown N'esy Pas?






Jenna Collins
Dan Flanagan
"However, Trudeau's denial did little to satisfy the opposition Conservatives and New Democrats. The allegations, made by unnamed sources to the Globe and Mail, dominated Thursday's question period."

What a shock!

Scheer desperately trying to get people to remember his name and, well, the NDP are the NDP



Chuck Darwin
Chuck Darwin
@Dan Flanagan
Drowning man, grasping for a rope

Dan Flanagan
Dan Flanagan
@Chuck Darwin Proof?

Chuck Darwin
Chuck Darwin
@Dan Flanagan

To quote a liberal

The proof is the proof

Edward Mann
Edward Mann
@Dan Flanagan
Waiting for the proof... It will come

Jim Gurtle
Jim Gurtle
@Dan Flanagan elections are usually more about voting against someone. From that perspective, I’d say Justin should get his luggage ready

Rick Meyer
Rick Meyer
@Dan Flanagan

I see the upvotes have been hacked

William Martin
William Martin
@Dan Flanagan Why on earth do you have 150 upvotes?

Byron Whitford
Byron Whitford
@William Martin

Vote manipulation. 150 upvotes and 150 downvotes all at once on certain comments to manipulate the forum.
 
David Amos
David Amos
@Byron Whitford Welcome to the Circus
Jenna Collins
Jenna Collins
@Byron Whitford
Someone is manipulating comments.








Jenna Collins 
Daryl McBride
I will believe the Globe and Mail instead of the first Pm ever to break ethics law, 4 of them to boot.



Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Daryl McBride

Wow, you of all people dont believe the PM even though no shred of evidence is supplied. Wild stuff, let us know when you actually believed our PM?

You supported Harper contempt of parliament so dont give us the ethics baloney.

Hermann Mattfield
Hermann Mattfield
@Troy Mann ...awwww!!! Troy you got our PM's back...lol

Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis
@Troy Mann

Troy, for the allegations to be false, "well-connected Liberals, "Liberal insiders," and "SNC Lavalin sources" had to conspire together to create a hoax. Think about this one.

Neil Turv
Neil Turv
@Troy Mann

The point is that no matter who is in power you will find evidence of nepotism, corruption, etc. etc.

Harper was found in Contempt, a few of his senators misused public funds, robocalls.
Trudeau was found guilty of ethics violations, and outside of the SNC the Liberals have several other questionable financial deals that have been or are under scrutiny.
Chretien had the sponsorship scandal, HRDC scandal, allegations of covering up the Canadian peacekeepers abuse in Somalia
Mulroney has serious evidence against him regarding bribes and payoffs....

etc. etc.

You give someone power they will abuse it, it's not a Con thing, not a Liberal thing, and if the NDP run the country I'll guarantee something will happen under their watch too.

Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis
@Daryl McBride

I haven't always agreed with her, but given the circumstances, I have to applaud Jody Wilson-Raybould. She stood up to the bullies in the Prime Minister's Officer and stood her ground. And even in the face of multiple sources supporting the allegations, she won't throw her party under the bus. Liberals: that should be your leader right there.

William Martin
William Martin
@Daryl McBride I'm with you on that one.

James Holden
James Holden
@Daryl McBride

No laws have been broken by this Government.
Unlike the last one.

James Holden
James Holden
@Daryl McBride

We have a new Justice Minister from Montreal.
Still the case has not been set aside.
That fact negates the allegations that she was demoted for not setting the prosecution aside.

The story does not hold water.

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Troy Mann "But, but Harper" won't cut it today, I'm afraid.

Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis
@James Holden "We have a new Justice Minister from Montreal. Still the case has not been set aside."

The cabinet shuffle isn't even a month old! That's not indicative of anything. And why would Liberal and SNC Lavalin insiders all be saying this is it weren't true?

Jim Roth
Jim Roth
@Daryl McBride The previous Minister did not give SNC a break from prosecution. She was moved in a cabinet shuffle. If the new Minister then gave SNC a break that would be suspicious, but that did not happen. The prosecution continued unchanged.

So the Conservative allegation is "you didn't do anything wrong, but we wish you had".

Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis
@Jim Roth

What "Conservative allegation"?

Paul Doe
Paul Doe
@Neil Turv

/sarcasm on

NO NO NO

It doesn't work that way.

We ignore when our side does something wrong, or we spin it so it was actually because the other side is evil. If the other side does something wrong, not only was it wrong in its own right, it is also a proper retort when our side does something wrong.

You must be a politics rookie.

/sarcasm off

Tyler Brown
Tyler Brown
@George Halbert McKinney
At the same time this post magically received 150+ down votes a pro Trudeau post appears at the top of most liked with 150+ up votes , which appeared in minutes, to take top spot.

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@George Halbert McKinney Yes I know. Both up and down votes were altered. I should have been more clear.

Murray Joah
Murray Joah
@Tyler Brown
Get ready to be "disabled" for making THAT observation!!!

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Murray Joah There are companies who actually work as 'commenters' who are in place to make people think popular opinion is a certain direction to sway public opinion. They have been active since 2002. "July 21, 2017 "Information Clearing House" - The Computational Propaganda Research Project (COMPROP) investigates the interaction of algorithms, automation and politics. This work includes analysis of how tools like social media bots are used to manipulate public opinion by amplifying or repressing political content, disinformation, hate speech, junk or fake news.

In their most recent report COMPROP have identified how organisations, often with public money, have created a system to help ‘define and manage what is in the best interest of the public.’

Neil Turv
Neil Turv
@Paul Doe

Thanks Paul,

I am very aware that the quickest way to get a bunch of downvotes on this site is to state that neither side inherently evil or bad.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Neil Turv

I agree
But people like Darryl here pretending to be non-partisan is simply out of touch with reality. He has a long history of supporting Saudi Arabia, China, Russia and Venezuela over Canada so home pretending to have an excuse is hilarious.

Neil Turv
Neil Turv
@Troy Mann

Sure, but he's easily balanced out by James Holden,

And just as many people on the left defend China, Venezeual and other dictators on this site as right wing people. (Sharp and mccaig being the most prime examples).

Munroe Kelly
Munroe Kelly
@Daryl McBride
“I’m confident that I did not act inappropriately but I think the essence of this is that people can experience interactions differently.”

Justin Trudeau

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Neil Turv

I disagree that as many defended China and Venezuela from the left than from conservatives on here.

Conservatives on here will always choose a foreign power over Canada. They have shown themselves very open on that, they cant ever phantom agreeing with Trudeau even when he is 100% right.

I disagreed with Harper on most things but still agreed with him on several. Conservatives will never say that, it goes against their beliefs. They would like to see Canada fail because to them it would make Trudeau look bad, ignoring the fact that Canada would fail. Trudeau looking bad is more important to them than Canada succeeding.

Greg Miller
Greg Miller
@Daryl McBride SHADES OF TRUMP?

Neil Turv
Neil Turv
@Troy Mann

Casting broad aspersions to any group isn't helpful

I'm a conservative supporter (ford notwithstanding) and support Trudeau on most immigration initiatives and tend to support the line he draws with totalitarian regimes.

Remember criticizing the tactics Trudeau uses to deal with these issues is not necessarily the same as supporting the dictator in question. It really isn't one or another and rarely is in any scenario, it's mostly grey.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Neil Turv

Criticizing tactics is one thing, usually offering up some type of alternative but the most liked posts in all those stories where partisan rants designed to give foreign powers partisan tools to use against Canada.

You know exactly what I am saying if you want to be non partisan about it.

Mark Hammer
Mark Hammer
@Jim Roth
Correct. The PM could have moved the minister in another cabinet shuffle at any previous time, but did not until Scott Brison's resignation obliged a cabinet shuffle. If it was that serious, why wait, right?

mike j malicki
mike j malicki
@Daryl McBride ...Whats the chance SNC has deals with the U.N. ? I would say pretty good .

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Daryl McBride For the record, this was the top post until 150 down votes magically appeared.

Tyler Brown
Tyler Brown
@Ron Brady
I noticed that too. A couple of hours ago it was 100 up votes to 10 down votes. I see the election interference has started early.

Jenna Collins
Jenna Collins
@Daryl McBride
Someone is playing with the likes/dislikes on this site again.

Murray Joah
Murray Joah
@Daryl McBride
SeeBeeSee continually disabling me for pointing out how the votes suddenly changed.

Byron Whitford
Byron Whitford
@Murray Joah

They are doing it to me too.

Jenna Collins
Jenna Collins
@Murray Joah
The same thing is happening to me. Unbelievable that someone can manipulate the likes/dislikes in the Liberal's favour.

George Halbert McKinney
George Halbert McKinney
@Ron Brady "this was the top post until 150 down votes magically appeared."

As far as I can tell from several years of observation, "down votes" have no effect on the "Most Liked" ranking.

It does appear that there are multiple campaigns attempting to change rankings, but I think that "Most Liked" entirely ignores the number of down votes.

Byron Whitford
Byron Whitford
@George Halbert McKinney

You are correct. It only counts upvotes. The downvotes are for looks...
 
David Amos
David Amos
@Daryl McBride Methinks it would not be wise to believe the Globe and Mail or the PM N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "You know exactly what I am saying if you want to be non partisan about it."

Now thats funny







Pam Sutton 
Pam Sutton
"It’s hard not to feel disappointed in your government when every day there is a new scandal."

Justin Trudeau October 2013



Edward Peter
Edward Peter
@Pam Sutton
If there is one, and the scandal is not fake.

Al Kennedy
Al Kennedy
@Edward Peter
Unfortunately - "Wilson-Raybould refused Thursday to comment on the Globe's story, either to confirm or deny it."

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams
@Al Kennedy

And her refusal to comment, either to confirm or deny, says it all, doesn't it?

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Lucas Williams

How does refusing to make a statement give you the insight on her thoughts?

Byron Whitford
Byron Whitford
@Troy Mann

"How does refusing to make a statement give you the insight on her thoughts?"

It is called deductive reasoning. If a lawyer won't outright refute a negative accusation chances are it has some sembelance of truth to it.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Byron Whitford

If a lawyer hasn't read the report or have intimate knowledge on what is being asked they would state "I have no comment today" so they can obtain facts rather than hearsay...

Your reasoning is flawed, you are making an assumption based on no evidence.

Byron Whitford
Byron Whitford
@Troy Mann

If the lawyer is the one being accused and has direct knowledge of the situation and refuses to comment then you can make assumptions based on their non-answer. They don't need to read the report which in this case a news article she could read in 5 minutes THAT IS ALL ABOUT HER. If she hadn't read it by that time then that is a whole other problem.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Byron Whitford

You know what they say about making assumptions right

If she hasn't read or even knew about the article any lawyer would state "I have no comment today". Her statement using the word today is the indicator for me that she was blind sided and she knows better to say anything with out understanding the situation.

Phil Mein
Phil Mein
@Troy Mann "Your reasoning is flawed, you are making an assumption based on no evidence."

Oh the hypocrisy !

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "any lawyer would state "I have no comment today"

Methinks you should have taken that advice as well N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Byron Whitford "If a lawyer won't outright refute a negative accusation chances are it has some sembelance of truth to it."

Several lawyers pulled that trick on me yesterday during a hearing but I went around their nonsense

Byron Whitford
Byron Whitford
@David Amos

They tried to avoid answering the question or implied you were guilty from your non-answers?

David Amos
David Amos
@Byron Whitford "They tried to avoid answering the question"

I am guilty of nothing I is me who is suing the Crown
 
Byron Whitford
Byron Whitford
@David Amos

Nice. Just wanted clarification.

David Amos
David Amos 
@Byron Whitford FYI I was arguing the CROWN in Federal Court before former Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould was ever elected. Why she covered for Harper and Andy Scheer is still a mystery to me but no doubt it has something to do with me versus KPMG and that was what I was arguing yesterday with some interesting characters to say the least. One of them I ran against in 2004 after he turned coat on Harper's new Party and became a liberal like his buddy Brison who just quit as well

Methinks there are no coincidences N'esy Pas?









Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis "
Having read the Globe and Mail's account, the information provided by sources is damning. "One well-connected Liberal with close ties to SNC-Lavalin said Ms. Wilson-Raybould “blew off the PMO” requests." In addition, "Sources at SNC-Lavalin told The Globe the PMO was furious with the justice minister’s intransigence on the remediation agreement and that the company was pleased to see her moved out of the portfolio."

All the information provided by sources in the article fits the facts. It looks pretty clear that the PMO, which was lobbied by SNC Lavalin 14 out of the 50 times they met with officials, are protecting the company and because Wilson-Raybould refused to do it, she was removed with someone who possibly will. This is possibly bigger than the Norman trial. I have to tip my hat to Wilson-Raybould: she stood up to the bullies in the PMO and seems to be remaining loyal. Make her leader of the Liberals!


James Holden
James Holden
@Jamie Gillis

"the PMO was furious"

The story breaks down there as "the PMO" is not a single person. It is a large office with many people working.

Also the prosecution has not been set aside even with a new Justice MInister from Montreal.

"Sources from SNC-Lavalin" One of the most demonstrably corrupt companies in Canada, should not be believed without corroborative evidence.

This looks like dirty tricks of a type that Conservatives are well known for. Probably through their wholly owned subsidiary, the Ontario Proud boys.

Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis
@James Holden

1) Everybody knows that the PMO is not one person, but that it's routinely referred to that way. The same phrase was used to describe the fallout from the cabinet leak in the Norman case.

2) The new Justice Minister hasn't even been in for a month yet, so that he hasn't taken any action on this yet isn't indicative of anything.

3) Liberal insiders are also cited as sources in the Globe article.

4) Trying to drag the Conservatives into this wreaks of desperation on your part.

Neil Turv
Neil Turv
@James Holden

Your arguments against this article is essentially the written equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "lalalala".

Liberals are just as capable of cronyism and nepotism as the Conservatives, and the Proud Boys conspiracy theory has the merit of a flat earthers claims.

I stepped in a puddle yesterday that was much deeper than I thought, can you explain to me how Scheer orchestrated my wet foot?

Al Kennedy
Al Kennedy
@James Holden
Your reply to the reported fact "One well-connected Liberal with close ties to SNC-Lavalin" is
"This looks like dirty tricks of a type that Conservatives are well known for"
LOL

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Neil Turv

Capable yes but instantly believing an anonymous source is a stretch at best. I shrugged off many of those accusations during the Harper years and will do so now.

Your way foot, well an insider of the conservatives party who wants to remain anonymous told me Sheer created the puddle. You believe me right, because of my anonymous source.

Neil Turv
Neil Turv
@Troy Mann

Like you I am withholding final judgement, but the G&M is hardly a far right source of information. While I will be happy to change my view, from what I have read in this case if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck it's probably a duck, and a cabinet shuffle to get the result you want is a fairly common practice in politics.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Neil Turv

But why wait for Brison to resign to make the shuffle happen? If Trudeau was furious he could have made the change long ago.

Fact remains unless the anonymous source reveals themself or Wilson agrees with the anonymous source we will never have enough facts to make a decision. So you are left with the duck situation and like I said before, I brushed aside many anonymous sources during the Harper years because it is futile.

Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis
@Troy Mann

Troy, you forget, or perhaps were unaware, that the Globe article identifies one of those anonymous sources as a "well-connected Liberal with close ties to SNC-Lavalin" and that this individual said "Ms. Wilson-Raybould “blew off the PMO” requests."

Are you saying this Liberal isn't a Liberal at all? Or Are you suggesting this Liberal made it up, along with any other sources telling the same story?

Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis
@Troy Mann "But why wait for Brison to resign to make the shuffle happen? If Trudeau was furious he could have made the change long ago."

Optics.

Stanley Baird
Stanley Baird
@Jamie Gillis Let's see what all the fact are, but the removal of Wilson-Raybould has not yet been explained and so far this is the only explanation.

Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis
@Stanley Baird

Well we have no choice but to wait. But there's no getting around it: none of this looks good.
 
Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Jamie Gillis "
Are you saying this Liberal isn't a Liberal at all? Or Are you suggesting this Liberal made it up, along with any other sources telling the same story"

Who are the other sources other than anonymous?

I rolled my eyes at many of the anonymous accusations against Harper and I will continue to do so while Trudeau is PM and whomever is next.

Anonymous accusations are useless until they are verified even when I dont like the person being accused.

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann I am not anonymous









Jenna Collins 
Daryl McBride
It wouldn't be the first time the Liberals have tried to intervene, the Stanley trial comes to mind.



Jack O Hill
Jack O Hill
@Daryl McBride

As well as the PM announcing that the investigation in VAdm Norman was certain to end up in court.

Irv Millar
Irv Millar
@Daryl McBride Did you even read the articles from the Globe and Mail?
To quote: "The Globe and Mail never reported that officials in Mr. Trudeau's office had directed Ms. Wilson-Raybould to take action--only that she was pressured to do so and declined.
Well the PM/PMO have said otherwise. The only other party to make statements would be SNC Lavalin. Go figure eh?

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Irv Millar

Conservatives slinging mud in every direction hoping something sticks yet anonymous sources are rarely reliable.
 
Phil Mein
Phil Mein
@Troy Mann "Conservatives slinging mud in every direction hoping something sticks yet anonymous sources are rarely reliable."

Sounds like you're adopting Trump's style , looks good on you. LOL

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann I repeat I am not anonymous and you have never dared to argue even once Correct?



David Amos
David Amos
@Irv Millar "The straws are being grasped. A mountain and the mole hill. The only way the Conservatives know how to govern. In blame, but no self-blame. There's mirrors for that eh?"

Methinks it must have felt good to be at the top of the heep or awhile N'esy Pas?










Adam Smith 
Adam Smith
His nose is getting longer.

Reid Fleming
Reid Fleming
@Adam Smith And his tenure is getting shorter...


Stanley Baird
Stanley Baird
@Adam Smith did the last Liberal majority also go down due to scandal in Quebec?

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Stanley Baird

I remember the last conservative majority went down due to failed policies that lead us into a recession...
 
Ryan Tulson
Ryan Tulson
The recession was world wide and Canada came out on top! You may want to climb out from under the rock you were under for the last 20 years

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "I remember the last conservative majority went down due to failed policies that lead us into a recession..."

Do you recall the reasons that you did not vote or me in 2006?








Jenna Collins 
Richard Dekkar
This is headline news and it's buried in the Politics section on this site. Did the PMO send those instructions too?



Daryl McBride
Daryl McBride
@Richard Dekkar Of course he did.

Sophia Riangulo
Sophia Riangulo
@Richard Dekkar Shows up on the front page as the first article and a large photo for me.

 
Richard Dekkar
Richard Dekkar
@Sophia Riangulo

Yes thanks, it does for me now too. It didn't appear there at first but even our public broadcaster can't hide this one.

David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Dekkar Of that I have no doubt









Jenna Collins 
bill chagwich
I will be voting A Scheer conservatives in the next election, Canadians deserve better, enough is enough



Graham Greene
Graham Greene
@bill chagwich

I thought you wanted 'better'??

Stephen David
Stephen David
@bill chagwich

Well said....as will many Canadians. Enough is enough already.


Arthur Gill
Arthur Gill
@Graham Greene
That is what he said. What makes you think he is wrong?

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
@Arthur Gill

Scheer. And face of Pierre P. among others . . . .

Arthur Gill
Arthur Gill
@Graham Greene
That is not an answer.

Chuck MacDonald
Chuck MacDonald
@bill chagwich I SECOND THAT
  
Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Arthur Gill

Provide one policy Sheer has that will make things better?

Allowing Quebec to collect federal taxes?

The suggestion that there will be no 'scandals' especially from anonymous sources with Sheer as leader is just silly talk at best. There was this type of stuff on a daily basis when Harper was PM and conservatives in chorus all said "but but Chretien"

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "but but Chretien"

Methinks you know what happened between Chretien and I N'esy Pas?










Jenna Collins 
Jamie Gillis
Wilson-Raybould's "shuffle" out of the Justice file was not well received among many communities and Canadians. This is going to add a lot of salt to that wound. Heh, unless you believe Trudeau.

Seriously, the Globe article is worth the subscription. The details are jaw dropping.


Stanley Baird
Stanley Baird
@Jamie Gillis disappointing that the PM or PMO would interfere with the courts while the PM tells China that he cannot do such things in Canada.

David Amos
David Amos
@Stanley Baird Surprise Surprise Surprise










Stanley Baird
bobby ornstein
People in the PMO today running around with their Armani pants on fire ...


Ted Wach
Ted Wach
@bobby ornstein Hopefully the socks don't get consumed....

Jan Rose
Jan Rose
@bobby ornstein Wow, the paid bots are out on this one.

David Amos
David Amos
@bobby ornstein Methinks the antics of the boyz in shorts pants in the PCO must be quite a circus too N'esy Pas?








Jan Rose
John Wakefield
Trudeau and ethics issues again! When does it end? October 2019?



Billie-Bob Brown
Billie-Bob Brown
@John Wakefield
You mean like the other ethics matters that were really no big deal, when the actual facts are fully understood?

John Wakefield
John Wakefield
@Billie-Bob Brown

So the elaborate expensive trip to the Aga Khan's private island for Trudeau and his entourage, and the $50 million he gave to the Aga Khan are just an inconvenient coincidence....

 
Billie-Bob Brown
Billie-Bob Brown
@John Wakefield
No evidence of influence that benefited the Aga Khan. Only minor breaches of reporting to the many bodies that are officially required to be reported to (with each lack of reporting being counted as a separate 'ethics' issue by some people)

Billie-Bob Brown
Billie-Bob Brown
@John Wakefield
I suppose some people also believe that Trudeau tweeting Canada's commitment to support girl's education in developing nations to Trevor Noah during his hosting of a fund raiser in SA is also an 'ethical violation that benefited Trevor Noah'.

David Amos
David Amos
@John Wakefield "Trudeau and ethics issues again! When does it end? October 2019?"

Methinks that many will agree that Trudeau The Younger and his cohorts will win again because Harper 2.0 and his old buddy Maxime will split the vote on the right and the NDP will sink even further under their current leadership However whatever way it turns out it will be an entertaining circus from now until polling day N'esy Pas?







Robert Fournier 
Robert Fournier
This certainly explains credibly why the minister was demoted from Justice to Veterans affairs


Stanley Baird
Stanley Baird
@Robert Fournier so our self-proclaimed feminist PM may have demoted the minister of Justice when she refused to act improperly in this case at his request? His actions tell me all I need to know about his feminist and ethical credentials - he can stop lecturing the rest of us now, thanks.

David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Fournier Methinks a lot of Veterans do not consider it a demotion N'esy Pas?





 



Robert Fournier 
Steve Sax
Apparently the Globe and Mail isn’t good enough for the CBC as a news source. They only believe the LPC as a news source


Eileen Kinley
Eileen Kinley
@Steve Sax

They're reporting it.

Shawn Pieterson
Shawn Pieterson
@Steve Sax
Globe and mail doesn't pay the bills, sorry.

Jamie Gillis
Jamie Gillis
@Eileen Kinley

The only thing the CBC has really reported here is that Trudeau is saying "No I didn't!" Read the Globe article. The information from sources, both Liberals and SNC Lavalin, are staggering.

Steve Sax
Steve Sax
@Eileen Kinley

They were kinda forced to report on another news sources report

David Amos
David Amos
@Steve Sax "Apparently the Globe and Mail isn’t good enough for the CBC as a news source"

Methinks the CBC are not alone in that regard N'esy Pas?









Tim O'Day 
Tim O'Day
I'm amazed that the Globe story made it's way past the Guardians at Trudeau's Ministry of Truth and Sunny Ways.
Maybe the Globe's share of the $595 Million hasn't been received yet?


David Amos
David Amos
@Tim O'Day Methinks everybody knows that the Globe and Mai leans to the right N'esy Pas?









Robert Fournier 
Nico De Jong
Why is it that whenever Liberals are in government, within a few short years the whole scene just reeks of corrup tion?


Michael Taylor
Michael Taylor
@Nico De Jong
so far nothing compares with Duffy-gate. Harper still outnumbers the libs on corruption scandals.

Richard Ade
Richard Ade
@Nico De Jong The most surprising thing is the people that keep voting for them and supporting them. What have they delivered? Pot, more debts, bad trade deals USMCA, ....

Eileen Kinley
Eileen Kinley
@Nico De Jong

Yeah, the CPC are able to hide it longer.

Jason James
Jason James
@Nico De Jong

Same can be said of the Conservatives. No government is immune to corruption.

Dave Edwards
Dave Edwards
@Eileen Kinley That's not a denial of Liberal corruption.

If anything you're admitting that the Conservatives seem to know what they're doing better than the Liberals.

Brian Rose
Brian Rose
@Nico De Jong have something to do with PQ

Dale Bengtzen
Dale Bengtzen
@Jason James
This isn't about the Conservatives.

Eileen Kinley
Eileen Kinley
@Dave Edwards

Why would I deny Liberal corruption? I'm waiting for more information on this situation.
Jason James
Jason James
@Dale Bengtzen

No but when someone acts like ONLY the Liberals are corrupt, it needs to be brought up that there are other political parties who are as well.

Nico De Jong
Nico De Jong
@Nico De Jong
bEcause IT'S THE LIBERAL WAY ?

Irv Millar
Irv Millar
@Nico De Jong Not sure. Maybe ask Steve, Mike, Ernie, Grant, Brad or Jason?

Dan Desormeaux
Dan Desormeaux
@Dave Edwards some people are not blind party stooges. Do you disagree that MOST politicians are corrupt or corruptible?

Andy Steinbach
Andy Steinbach
@Jason James

Well, that's just called deflection because this story is about Trudeau and the Liberals...

David Amos
David Amos
@Nico De Jong Methinks the same can be said of any government N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Dan Desormeaux "Do you disagree that MOST politicians are corrupt or corruptible?"

Methinks everybody knows that is the reason I sued the Crown and have run against all the political parties six times thus far N'esy Pas?








Robert Fournier 
John Smith
Sorry Trudeau but you're a listen and believe feminist. Accusations equal proof for you. I'm gonna take a page out of the progressive (your) hand book and take these accusations as true even without a shred of evidence and hold them against you. You reap what you sow pal.


Tony Belmore
Tony Belmore
@John Smith Ya!

Tom Simpson
Tom Simpson
@John Smith

Wow. You know, I know you post a lot of BS like this but c'mon... Those two things are so different in scope. I mean.. it's just ridiculous.

John Smith
John Smith
@Tom Simpson What's different? You like the person being accused without proof this time?

Tom Simpson
Tom Simpson
@John Smith

I'm not even going to get into this with you. It's just ignorant.

John Smith
John Smith
@Tom Simpson You're not going to get into this because you know you're wrong.

Tom Simpson
Tom Simpson
@John Smith

I'm really not though John. I'm really not.
John Smith
John Smith
@Tom Simpson care to offer an explanation of why you're not wrong? or are you going to stop at a simple claim and hope hope that's enough to prove something?

Alanna Logan
Alanna Logan
@Tom Simpson not too much support for your so called right position. Might be time to reevaluate.
Randy A. Selkirk
Randy A. Selkirk
@John Smith Good one John , good one !
Tom Simpson
Tom Simpson
@Alanna Logan

The allegations may be true and it may not be. That's my stance on it. We barely know anything about it yet.

Tom Simpson
Tom Simpson
@John Smith

Like I said John, I really hope you know why comparing the two is way out of scope. I really hope you do.

John Smith
John Smith
@Tom Simpson I do but the act of punishing someone without proof is equally wrong in either scenario.

Tom Simpson
Tom Simpson
@John Smith

That's certainly a good point. However, that isn't always possible.

Jim Lauzon
Jim Lauzon
@John Smith
it wasn't "Listen and believe" when JT was the accused sexual offender either.

David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Lauzon True


David Amos
David Amos
@John Smith "care to offer an explanation of why you're not wrong? or are you going to stop at a simple claim and hope hope that's enough to prove something?"

Methinks Trudeau the Younger and his latest Minister of Justice should review paragraph 83 of my statement of claim In Federal Court I filed it when Harper was the PM N'esy Pas?









Pam Sutton 
Pam Sutton
When asked about this on camera, Trudeau looked like he was about to start crying.


Ricky Weston
Ricky Weston
@Pam Sutton I think he may of wet his pants.

Mike Irvine
Mike Irvine
@Pam Sutton ROFLMAO!

Angus Mackenzie
Angus Mackenzie
@Pam Sutton It's the default position for a child in trouble.

Sand In
Sand In
@Pam Sutton
again...

David Amos
David Amos
@Angus Mackenzie "It's the default position for a child in trouble."

Oh So True







Robert Fournier 
Steve Sax
Irvings
McCains
SNC Lavilian
Bombardier

Seem to own the Liberals


Paul Underhill
Paul Underhill
Suggest looking into a long time connection between a particular Canadian family
and the Trudeaus, Mulroneys and the Chretiens.

@Steve Sax Need to add the Bronfmans and Desmarais to that list

David Amos
David Amos
@Steve Sax I wholeheartedly agree

David Amos
David Amos
@ "Need to add the Bronfmans and Desmarais to that list"

YUP BUT

Methinks everybody would like to know who I am agreeing with N'esy Pas?








John Paul Maxwell
John Paul Maxwell
All this in just 3 years.Wow!!


David Amos
David Amos
@John Paul Maxwell Methinks there were a lots sunny days within those 3 years for Trudeau the Younger to enjoy N'esy Pas?









Pam Sutton 
Pam Sutton
"Low income Canadians don't pay taxes, AND my high income corporate pals don't go to court" - Justin Trudeau


Richard Riel
Richard Riel
@Pam Sutton And in many cases don't pay taxes whatsoever.

Michael Brown
Michael Brown
@Richard Riel Really? I'd love to see your evidence.

Edward Peter
Edward Peter
@Pam Sutton
Said when, under what condition, or just another misleading comment?

David Amos
David Amos
@Pam Sutton "Low income Canadians don't pay taxes, AND my high income corporate pals don't go to court" - Justin Trudeau

Say it again Pam










Robert Fournier 
Nico De Jong
Perfect time to take a walk in the snow, Trudeau.
Do Canada, and yourself - a huge favour, and do just that.
Don't worry, your career at the UN is secure - the more experience you have at alleged corruption, the better your resume looks to them.

Mike Irvine
Mike Irvine
@Nico De Jong make the walk up by Ft Mac and its -50C

Brad Mercier
Brad Mercier
@Mike Irvine
Must be the AGW.

Andrew Hanson
Andrew Hanson
@Nico De Jong blah blah blah .
Alan Humphreys
Alan Humphreys
@Andrew Hanson-"blah blah blah"? I dazzled by your contribution! And your next defence submission will be?

David Amos
David Amos
@Nico De Jong "Perfect time to take a walk in the snow, Trudeau"

Methinks we can only just watch Trudeau The Younger look for his Father's tracks in the snow of long ago N'esy Pas?




Trudeau under fire over claim he pressured justice minister to intervene in SNC-Lavalin fraud case

Company facing charges of fraud and corruption in connection with payments to Libyan officials


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is denying a report that his office pressured ex-justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould to intervene in the case of fraud and corruption charges against construction giant SNC-Lavalin. (CBC)

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau found himself in the opposition's crosshairs Thursday following a report that he pressed former Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould to intervene in the prosecution of construction giant SNC-Lavalin on charges of fraud and corruption.

Trudeau denied today that he or his staff "directed" Wilson-Raybould to intervene. At one point, in reply to a journalist's question, he said in French that he never "asked" her to make any decisions in the case.

"The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false," Trudeau told reporters during a Toronto-area news conference Thursday morning.



"Neither the current nor the previous attorney general was ever directed by me, or by anyone in my office, to take a decision in this matter."
However, Trudeau's denial did little to satisfy the opposition Conservatives and New Democrats. The allegations, made by unnamed sources to the Globe and Mail, dominated Thursday's question period.

"We have heard the prime minister's very carefully scripted legalistic answer," said Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer. "But the question is, did anyone in the Prime Minister's Office at any time communicate with anyone in the former attorney general's office on the matter of the criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin — yes or no?"

Guy Caron, parliamentary leader for the New Democratic Party, drew a link between the allegations and illegal political donations the company has made in the past.

"SNC-Lavalin illegally gave more than $110,000 to the Liberal Party and its (riding) associations.

Today, SNC-Lavalin needs a helping hand because they are in trouble," Caron said, pointing out that the company had lobbied the government more than 50 times in the past two years.

"The justice minister was fired and everybody asked why. Was she fired because the bottom line is a friend is a friend?"

Current Justice Minister David Lametti was forced to field question after question, repeating Trudeau's response from earlier in the day and saying he personally had received no pressure or directives to intervene in the case.

Meanwhile, the woman at the centre of the storm remained silent. Wilson-Raybould, who was moved out of the prestigious Justice portfolio to Veterans Affairs last month, refused to answer reporters' questions Thursday — either to back up her boss or to deny the Globe and Mail's report.

The Globe and Mail story said Wilson-Raybould was shuffled from her portfolio after she refused to ask federal prosecutors to make a plea bargain deal with Montreal-based SNC-Lavalin. The newspaper, citing anonymous sources, said Trudeau's office tried to press Wilson-Raybould to intervene in the prosecution of SNC Lavalin.
CBC News has not independently verified the allegations.

Bill Wilson, Wilson-Raybould's father and a Kwakwaka'wakw hereditary chief in B.C., told CBC News his daughter has an iron will and will emerge from this scandal clean.

"If she or I had been purchasable at some point in time in our political career, it never happened, it didn't happen and will never happen," said Wilson.

"If this mess comes out as messy as I imagine it might be, she will be one of the few people that won't get any dirt on her."


Wilson-Raybould is refusing to comment on reports that the Prime Minister's Office pressed her to intervene in the case against SNC-Lavalin. (Fred Chartrand/Canadian Press)
SNC-Lavalin is before a court in Montreal, charged with fraud and corruption in connection with payments of nearly $48 million to public officials in Libya under Moammar Gadhafi's government and allegations it defrauded Libyan organizations of an estimated $130 million.

The company is contesting the case and has pleaded not guilty. The case is at the preliminary hearing stage.

If convicted, the company could be blocked from competing for federal government contracts for a decade.

In 2013, SNC-Lavalin was debarred from competing on any project financed by the World Bank for 10 years following an investigation into allegations of bribery schemes involving the company and officials in Bangladesh.

On Friday, former SNC-Lavalin CEO Pierre Duhaime pleaded guilty to helping a public servant commit breach of trust in a deal that resulted in 20 months of house arrest, 240 hours of community service and a $200,000 donation to a fund for victims of crime.
In late November, the company's former vice-president Normand Morin pleaded guilty to charges of violating Canada's election financing rules through an elaborate scheme that sent more than $117,000 to the federal Liberal and Conservative parties and to individual candidates.
The company maintains that the charges resulted from the actions of former executives and it is under new management. It says it has cleaned up its act.

On Thursday, it refused all comment.

According to the Globe and Mail's report, SNC-Lavalin lobbied Trudeau's government to agree to a deferred prosecution agreement or remediation agreement. In such cases, the prosecution is set aside; in return, the company admits responsibility and takes remedial steps, such as paying a fine or adopting compliance rules.

To date, the Public Prosecution Service has refused to negotiate a deal with SNC-Lavalin. The company has challenged that decision.

According to the anonymous sources cited by the Globe and Mail, unidentified officials in Trudeau's office pressed Wilson-Raybould to use her power to intervene.

Scheer described the allegations as very troubling and called on Trudeau to tell Canadians what happened.

"It is clear that the prime minister is hiding something because he wasn't very transparent, he didn't respond to the other questions and he returned to one line that sounded like it was constructed by lawyers," he told reporters.

Scheer said his party will explore all options to pursue the allegation. "All the options are on the table," he said, refusing to spell out what he had in mind.

Scheer also didn't say whether a Conservative government would have granted SNC-Lavalin's request for a remediation agreement.

"If there is going to be any discussion from very high levels in the government to grant an exemption or an alternative measure to a company when we're talking about very serious prosecutions, that must be done with full transparency and this is not what we're seeing here," he said.

"We're talking about allegations the prime minister or his office exerted a great deal of pressure and when they didn't get the answer they liked, they fired the minister of justice."

Meanwhile, a former Saskatchewan judge says the RCMP needs to investigate the allegations. Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond, currently director of the University of British Columbia's Indian Residential School History and Dialogue Centre, told CBC News a federal police investigation is necessary to restore public confidence in the administration of justice.


Elizabeth Thompson can be reached at elizabeth.thompson@cbc.ca

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Blog accuses Rehtaeh Parsons mom over death of her child

Posted August 28, 2013 9:47 am by Comments (2

Rehtaeh Parsons suicide was truly tragic, but there maybe more than meets the eye, according to a blogger who claims “Leah Parsons, you killed your daughter by your laziness and ignorance many times over

Leah Parsons sent a “letter.” I don’t know if this poor excuse for a mother wrote it for David Amos to post now, or for maximum media effect some months ago. But alas David Amos may have re-posted it, or perhaps Mister Canning and Leah Parsons wrote it now in their ever fevered search for “fifteen minutes of fame.
The poorly written missive began, “Dear Tormentors,” Leah Parson goes on in her missive that “I/we have not ruined little boys lives.” She/ they further commiserate that it “baffles her/their mind we are suffering the loss of our child, and people continue to attack us, attack Rehtaeh.”
Leah Parsons further whines that Rehtaeh, “was not the same little girl after November 2011.
No Ms. Parsons and Mr Canning, “:your little girls was not the same since November 2011. When you permitted a fifteen year old child to attend a  drunken orgy. Mrs. Parsons/handler in her “heartfelt screed, alluded to people questioning the parenting skills of the Parsons “family.”
Well, Mr. Parsons, Glen Canning and sycophants, we are not afraid of you feckless morons trying to, shut us up, repress our right to expression, which I might add is as sacred as yours.
Glen Canning and Leah Parsons, you killed your daughter by your laziness and ignorance many times over. YOU permitted a fifteen year old child to attend a drunken orgy, no one else. YOU had no clue, nor did you want to, knowing YOUR daughter wasn’t attending school. Thus depriving herself and you of professional assistance for her problem, that the Halifax School Board could have rendered. You simply didn’t care that much for your child.
For two years Rehtaeh progressed herself to suicide. It did NOT happen overnight. That indeed begs the question: Where was and why didn’t her parents do nothing.
Rehtaeh Parsons is dead, and Leah Parsons and Glen Canning chase their ever elusive fifteen minutes of fame by further shedding crocodile tears. Mrs. Parsons further commiserated, and spelled: “Rehtaeh you were up against some pretty cruel people with zero compassion and caring.”
No Rehtaeh! You were saddled with selfish, uncaring and incompetent “parents” that failed you in both life and death. They didn’t bother to actually parent you, before you decided to kill yourself and now they are trying to profit off your tragic life.
Rehtaeh’s “parents are now blaming everyone else in Halifax for Little Rehtaeh’s offing herself, except the ones to blame…themselves. No child on the planet deserves “parents” like Glen and Leah.
Now craven and cowardly Glen Canning wants to use surrogates like little David Amos to shut me up. To restrict my expressing an opinion for no other reason than he doesn’t like it. So he gets little Davey Amos to say “Shame on the RCMP and Shame on the Military Police,’ for permitting the Charter Rights of Freedom of Expression.
You cowardly tosspot Mr. Canning, trying to engage “hackers” to out and shut me up. YOU and your bitch ex wife have become the “tormenters.” Is the profit in a dubious fame and a few bucks worth the bullying of people including Christy Blatchford. Mr. Canning, it would be easy to simply write you off as another dullard form Maritime Kanada, but you assholes remind me of the old Roman saw: We have met the enemy, and they are us.
Notwithstanding you craven, cowardly and churlish attempt to muzzle me, I and others with continue to write what we want, when we want to.
Glen, you and little Leah are most responsible for your daughter’s wasted life….now you have to wear it, and own it.
Here endeth the lesson, laddie

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    Rehtaeh Parsons suicide was truly tragic, but there maybe more than
    meets the eye, according to a blogger who claims “Leah Parsons, you
    killed your daughter by your laziness and ignorance many times over”
    Leah Parsons sent a “letter.” I don’t know if this poor excuse for a
    mother wrote it for David Amos to post now, or for maximum media
    effect some months ago. But alas David Amos may have re-posted it, or
    perhaps Mister Canning and Leah Parsons wrote it now in their ever
    fevered search for “fifteen minutes of fame.
    The poorly written missive began, “Dear Tormentors,” Leah Parson goes
    on in her missive that “I/we have not ruined little boys lives.” She/
    they further commiserate that it “baffles her/their mind we are
    suffering the loss of our child, and people continue to attack us,
    attack Rehtaeh.”
    Leah Parsons further whines that Rehtaeh, “was not the same little
    girl after November 2011.
    No Ms. Parsons and Mr Canning, “:your little girls was not the same
    since November 2011. When you permitted a fifteen year old child to
    attend a drunken orgy. Mrs. Parsons/handler in her “heartfelt screed,
    alluded to people questioning the parenting skills of the Parsons
    “family.”
    Well, Mr. Parsons, Glen Canning and sycophants, we are not afraid of
    you feckless morons trying to, shut us up, repress our right to
    expression, which I might add is as sacred as yours.
    Glen Canning and Leah Parsons, you killed your daughter by your
    laziness and ignorance many times over. YOU permitted a fifteen year
    old child to attend a drunken orgy, no one else. YOU had no clue, nor
    did you want to, knowing YOUR daughter wasn’t attending school. Thus
    depriving herself and you of professional assistance for her problem,
    that the Halifax School Board could have rendered. You simply didn’t
    care that much for your child.
    For two years Rehtaeh progressed herself to suicide. It did NOT happen
    overnight. That indeed begs the question: Where was and why didn’t her
    parents do nothing.
    Rehtaeh Parsons is dead, and Leah Parsons and Glen Canning chase their
    ever elusive fifteen minutes of fame by further shedding crocodile
    tears. Mrs. Parsons further commiserated, and spelled: “Rehtaeh you
    were up against some pretty cruel people with zero compassion and
    caring.”
    No Rehtaeh! You were saddled with selfish, uncaring and incompetent
    “parents” that failed you in both life and death. They didn’t bother
    to actually parent you, before you decided to kill yourself and now
    they are trying to profit off your tragic life.
    Rehtaeh’s “parents are now blaming everyone else in Halifax for Little
    Rehtaeh’s offing herself, except the ones to blame…themselves. No
    child on the planet deserves “parents” like Glen and Leah.
    Now craven and cowardly Glen Canning wants to use surrogates like
    little David Amos to shut me up. To restrict my expressing an opinion
    for no other reason than he doesn’t like it. So he gets little Davey
    Amos to say “Shame on the RCMP and Shame on the Military Police,’ for
    permitting the Charter Rights of Freedom of Expression.
    You cowardly tosspot Mr. Canning, trying to engage “hackers” to out
    and shut me up. YOU and your bitch ex wife have become the
    “tormenters.” Is the profit in a dubious fame and a few bucks worth
    the bullying of people including Christy Blatchford. Mr. Canning, it
    would be easy to simply write you off as another dullard form Maritime
    Kanada, but you assholes remind me of the old Roman saw: We have met
    the enemy, and they are us.
    Notwithstanding you craven, cowardly and churlish attempt to muzzle
    me, I and others with continue to write what we want, when we want to.
    Glen, you and little Leah are most responsible for your daughter’s
    wasted life….now you have to wear it, and own it.
    Here endeth the lesson, laddie
    On 7/30/14, David Amos wrote:
    > Perhaps my frind Franky Boy will be witth me the next time I land in
    > Edmonton
    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yzWvTxPQPk&list=UUy8EcN1vBqTMe8fjF6mKD6g
    >
    > You received a new 0:21 minutes voicemail message, on
    > Wednesday, July 30, 2014 at 02:24:12 PM in mailbox
    > 9028000369 from 2505690338.
    >
    >
    > ———- Forwarded message ———-
    > From: BARRY WINTERS
    > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 04:51:14 -0600 (MDT)
    > Subject: Re: Mr Baconfat Tell your criminal nonsense to Lori Ink or
    > her son Austin or your daughter Keltie or Patty Baby Doran and your
    > other very sick fans
    > To: David Amos
    >
    > Cry David Cry! No noe is listening to you, or your crap!
    >
    >
    > ———- Forwarded message ———-
    > From: BARRY WINTERS
    > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 04:47:52 -0600 (MDT)
    > Subject: Re: Mr Baconfat Tell your criminal nonsense to Lori Ink or
    > her son Austin or your daughter Keltie or Patty Baby Doran and your
    > other very sick fans
    > To: David Amos
    >
    > David Amos, you nor your “daughters” could ever rise to the travel to
    > Edmonton on the best day you scum ever had.
    >
    >
    > —– Original Message —–
    > From: “David Amos”
    > To: “BARRY WINTERS” ,
    > nmcCalder@thesupportnetwork.com, “don.iveson”
    > , “birgittaj” ,
    > “birgittajoy”
    > Cc: “David Amos” , “brent.rathgeber.c1”
    > , “brent.rathgeber.a1”
    > , “frankffrost”
    > , “Glen Canning” ,
    > girlwriteswhat@gmail.com, “glen” , “eps”
    > , “deanr0032” ,
    > “patrick_doran1” , “Randy.McGinnis”
    > , “mike lokken”
    > , “mike lokken”
    > , “Sandra MILNER”
    > , “Ritz G” ,
    > “ritzg” , “ritzg” , “Davidc.Coon”
    > , “leader” ,
    > “mike.olscamp” , “john.green”
    > , “troy lifford” , “bruce
    > grandy” , “bruce grandy”
    > , “danny.copp”
    > , “dan. bussieres” ,
    > “oldmaison” , “Leanne.Fitch”
    > , “leanne.murray”
    > , “roger.l.brown”
    > , “justin.trudeau.a1”
    > , “smcintyre” ,
    > “bluelightning 03” ,
    > gparsons@sylvanlake.ca, “Gary.Rhodes” ,
    > “eachtem” , “Michelle.Boutin”
    > , “rod.knecht”
    > , “Rhansen” ,
    > “pol7163” , “David.Veitch”
    > , “xtofury” ,
    > “maryann4peace” , “radical”
    > , “merv” ,
    > “joshua.skurnik” , “lgunter”
    > , “Marianne.Ryan” ,
    > “andre” , “jac jac@avoiceformen.com info,
    > “premier”, “Thomas Lukaszuk”
    > , “info” ,
    > “DavidYurdiga” , “Paul Elam”
    > , “Radio” ,
    > “RathgB0” , “RajotJ1” ,
    > “don.iveson” , “themayor”
    > , “tony mitra” ,
    > info@nbchg.org, madeleine@berrevoets2014.ca, “mckeen.randy”
    > , “rob.moore.a1” ,
    > “rob.nicholson.a1” ,
    > abus@cyberpresse.ca, “bob.paulson” ,
    > “steven.blaney” , “mclellana”
    > > “John.Williamson.c1” ,
    > tharper@thestar.ca, “acampbell” , “steve.murphy”
    > , “jacques_poitras” ,
    > “greg.weston” , “greg.horton”
    >
    > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:17:47 PM
    > Subject: Mr Baconfat Tell your criminal nonsense to Lori Ink or her
    > son Austin or your daughter Keltie or Patty Baby Doran and your other
    > very sick fans
    >
    > The cops and politicians and many others know that my daughters are
    > not with me in Edmonton this week nor have they ever cantacted you or
    > your family through Twitter or in any other fashion.
    >
    > Everybody and his dog knows that it is YOU who has been sexually
    > harassing them and threatening to kill them for many years.
    > Furthermore the corrupt cops and their political puppet masters have
    > supported your criminal libel and hate speech against many people not
    > just us for reasons that are far from ethical. ( Check the paper EH? A
    > couple of Edmonton area politicians and many cops should know this
    > statue)
    >
    > YOUR BLOG PROVES IT IN SPADES
    >
    > As you love to quote
    >
    > “By their fruits ye shall know them”
    >
    > Veritias Vincit
    > David Raymond Amos
    > 902 800 0369
    >
    > ———- Forwarded message ———-
    > From: BARRY WINTERS
    > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:46:52 -0600 (MDT)
    > Subject: Re: Perhaps Birgitta Jonsdottir, Icelandic MP or Brent
    > Rathgeber, Q.C., M.P., Mikey Lokken of the RCMP and Det Stephen Hunt
    > of the EPS wikk explain to Mayor Iveson, Keltie Winters and Nancy
    > McCalder why I must take “further action” against Edmonton EH Stevey
    > Boy Harper and Mr Baconfat???
    > To: David Amos
    >
    > David little laddie! What “further action” You have been reduced to
    > sending spam to people that don’t read it. And making up pretend
    > stories about being out here in Alberta.
    >
    > YOU are beaten, your family whupped, abused and shown for what they
    > are. Smile Davey boy,you have been completely fucked over, for a very
    > very long time.
    >
    >
    > On 7/29/14, David Amos wrote:
    >> http://globalnews.ca/news/1404140/eight-alberta-men-arrested-in-canada-wide-child-porn-sting/
    >>
    >> From: Mike LOKKEN
    >> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:39:06 -0400
    >> Subject: Re: Final Docs
    >> To: David Amos
    >>
    >> This email is only checked periodically as I only have access to it on
    >> my desktop. If you require a faster response, please email
    >> mike.lokken@albertaicenorth.ca or call me on my cell at 780-907-8638
    >>
    >> *I am currently away until July 22nd. Please direct your emails for
    >> ICE matters to Cpl. Sandra MILNER
    >>
    >> Dear magicJack User:
    >>
    >> You received a new 0:23 minutes voicemail message, on Saturday, July
    >> 26, 2014 at 07:39:30 PM in mailbox 9028000369 from 7807226492.
    >>
    >> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/06/yo-brent-rathgeber-qc-mphow-is-your.html
    >>
    >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N6GiSrAkAU&list=UUkbhmckO2IIz9fN1ea8t75A
    >>
    >> —– Original Message —–
    >> From:
    >> To:
    >> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:52 AM
    >> Subject: RE: Re Wikileaks and Pfc Manning etc I just called you Mr
    >> Coombs my number is 902 800 0369 Correct?
    >>
    >>
    >> Dear Mr. Amos,
    >>
    >> On behalf of Mr. Rathgeber, we acknowledge receipt and thank you for
    >> your email.
    >>
    >> Please be assured that we will apprise Mr. Rathgeber of your
    >> correspondence at our earliest opportunity.
    >>
    >> Thank you for taking the time to contact Mr. Rathgeber.
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >>
    >> Verena Baxter
    >>
    >> Legislative Assistant
    >> Brent Rathgeber, Q.C., M.P.
    >> Edmonton-St. Albert
    >> (613) 996 4722
    >> (613) 863 8477
    >>
    >> http://brentrathgeber.ca/contact/
    >>
    >> Constituency Office Staff:
    >> Phone: 780.459.0809 Fax: 780.460.1246
    >>
    >> Jamie Kraft, Constituency Assistant, brent.rathgeber.c1@parl.gc.ca
    >> (All Media requests/inquiries)
    >> Diana Elniski-Franks, Immigration Casework Assistant,
    >> brent.rathgeber.c1b@parl.gc.ca
    >> Joe Becigneul, Non-Immigration Casework Assistant – 780.460.2873
    >> brent.rathgeber.c1a@parl.gc.ca
    >>
    >> Hill Office Staff:
    >>
    >> Phone: 613.996.4722 Fax: 613.995.8880
    >>
    >> Brad Otley, Parliamentary Assistant brent.rathgeber.a1@parl.gc.ca
    >> Terri McGarry, Member’s Assistant brent.rathgeber.a2@parl.gc.ca
    >>
    >> Constituency Office:
    >> Main Office
    >> #220, 20 Perron Street
    >> St. Albert, Alberta T8N 1E4
    >> 780.459.0809
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >> From: BARRY WINTERS
    >> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:11:38 -0600 (MDT)
    >> Subject: Re: Please remove us from your email distribution list
    >> To: David Amos
    >>
    >> Happy Blogging Davey Boy! “C’yall in court” you fucking retard. Bet ya
    >> then incarcerate you in the looney bin again! Cuming to Gagetown next
    >> month. Tell Gracie I want a nice half and half.
    >>
    >> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >> From: BARRY WINTERS
    >> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:49:52 -0600 (MDT)
    >> Subject: Re: Please remove us from your email distribution list
    >> To: David Amos
    >>
    >> It is very clear ….you are done. Google has banned you. Now the cops
    >> are going to get you. I have beaten you and your family. You are
    >> whupped.
    >>
    >> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >> From: BARRY WINTERS
    >> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:36:47 -0600 (MDT)
    >> Subject: Re: Please remove us from your email distribution list
    >> To: David Amos
    >>
    >> How do you like the war, Davey son! Fucken Palestinians are being
    >> killed. What a good thing! Within two days the tanks will roll and
    >> more Palestinians will die…,and no one will care. Die David Die!
    >>
    >>
    >> —– Original Message —–
    >> From: “David Amos”
    >> To: “Nancy McCalder” , “eps”
    >> , “David Amos”
    >> Cc: “Barry Winters” , “rod.knecht”
    >> , “Marianne.Ryan”
    >>
    >> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 8:14:04 PM
    >> Subject: Re: Please remove us from your email distribution list
    >>
    >> Call the cops like I did lady
    >>
    >> On Friday, July 11, 2014, Nancy McCalder > nmcCalder@thesupportnetwork.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> Hello David. I understand you had a telephone conversation with one of
    >> my staff last week. Since then you have taken the liberty to start
    >> including us in your email distribution with respect to your dispute
    >> with Barry Winters. I am writing you once and now to politely ask you
    >> to remove us from this list. We have no interest in this dispute. If
    >> we receive another email from you with respect to this issue I will
    >> take further action.
    >>
    >> Thank you for your cooperation.
    >>
    >> Warm Regards,
    >>
    >> Nancy
    >>
    >> Nancy McCalder MSc RSW
    >> Executive Director
    >> The Support Network
    >> (780) 732-6635
    >>
    >>
    >> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >> From: BARRY WINTERS
    >> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 05:05:18 -0600 (MDT)
    >> Subject: Re: I see that Mr Baconfat Mr Harper’s favourite pervert has
    >> clammed up for tonight BUT he will be back Everybody knows Harper, the
    >> Liberals, the Edmonton Cops, the RCMP and definitely the DND should
    >> have slammed his piehole shut in 2009
    >> To: David Amos
    >>
    >> Little David! How is the weather in New Brunswick buddy? Sorry to have
    >> “clammed up” but alas I went to bed. Having to get up and go to work
    >> in the morning. Something you wouldn’t know about! I did however rise
    >> early and post on my blog about you, Gracie the snuff girl, and Laura
    >> the butt!
    >>
    >> Since you can’t seem to find me, why don’t you call the gay cruise line
    >> again!
    >>
    >> “C’yall in court!” lol lol lol
    >>
    >> http://baconfat53.blogspot.ca/2014_07_01_archive.html
    >>
    >
    >
    > On 7/30/14, David Amos wrote:
    >> The cover letter was clearly posted in 2 webpages over the years
    >>
    >> http://oldmaison.blogspot.ca/2005/09/sussex-gold-found-and-bernard-lords.html
    >>
    >> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2008/06/david-amos-vs-bcs-liberal-premier.html
    >>
    >> July 31st, 2005
    >> Lt. Gov. Norman L. Kwong
    >> Premier Ralph Klein
    >> c/o Att. Gen. Ron Stevens
    >>
    >> Lt. Gov. Iona V. Campagnolo
    >> Premier Gordon Campbell
    >> c/o Att. Gen. Wally Oppal
    >>
    >> Lt. Gov. Myra A. Freeman
    >> Premier John F. Hamm
    >> c/o Att. Gen. Michael Baker
    >> Halifax, Nova Scotia
    >>
    >> Lt. Gov. J. Léonce Bernard
    >> Premier Pat G. Binns
    >> c/o Att. Gen. Mildred A. Dover
    >> Charlottetown, PEI
    >>
    >> RE: Public Corruption
    >> Hey,
    >>
    >>
    >> Apparently everybody wanted to play dumb about my concerns and
    >> allegations so that Humpty Dumpty Martin’s minority government would
    >> not fall and they could party hardy while the Queen was in Canada. As
    >> you all know months ago, I began faxing, emailing and calling the
    >> eight other Lt. Governors I had yet to cross paths with. I fully
    >> informed them of my indignation towards the Governor General Clarkson
    >> and two of her other Maritime Lieutenants Roberts and Chaisson before
    >> the latest wave of bad acting Yankees invaded my home in the USA
    >> without warrants or due process if law.
    >>
    >> I made certain all of the provincial Attorney Generals and Premiers
    >> can never deny the fact that I tried to make them well aware of my
    >> concerns and allegations in order to make everybody should sit up and
    >> pay attention. Not one person from any of your offices ever responded
    >> in any fashion at all. You can be certain that I expected the
    >> deliberate ignorance. It is one of the oldest tricks in the book that
    >> lawyers employ in order to play their wicked game of see no evil, hear
    >> no evil speak no evil. I knew it would happen particularly after Nova
    >> Scotia’s Conflict of Interest Commissioner Merlin Nunn had blocked my
    >> emails before I had contacted you. I have no doubt it helped to
    >> relieve him of his ethical dilemma before the NS NDP decided what to
    >> do about their chance to unseat the Conservatives. I have no doubt
    >> whatsoever many lawyers in Canada were praying that the Suffolk County
    >> District Attorney would have me back in the loony bin by April 28th
    >> and that all your troubles would go away. I opted to let you all have
    >> your way and did not bother you anymore until the Queen had left our
    >> shores and Parliament quit for the summer. Now it is my turn to have
    >> some fun and raise a little Political Hell.
    >>
    >> While the Queen, Clarkson and Martin where all having a grand old time
    >> on the Canadian dime my little Clan went through living hell down
    >> here. Trust me, lawyers need to learn some new tricks. Ignorance is no
    >> excuse to the law or me. Making some Canadian Attorney Generals and
    >> their political buddies show me their arses is child’s play to me
    >> after all that I have experienced in the last few years. If you doubt
    >> me ask Michael J. Bryant and Yvon Marcoux why I am so pissed at their
    >> bosses and the DHS. Then check my work for yourself. If the tag team
    >> of John Ashcroft and Tom Ridge could not intimidate me, believe me you
    >> people don’t have a prayer. Both of those dudes have quit their jobs
    >> but I am still standing and squaring off against their replacements
    >> now. If it were not for all the decent folks I know, the snotty ones
    >> like you would make me feel ashamed to be a Canadian. There is no
    >> shortage of lawyers. It is just that ethical ones that are rare birds,
    >> that’s all. You must know how easily the Canadian people can replace
    >> you with other lawyers if it becomes widely known how willing you are
    >> to ignore crime if it means some fancy dude may be compelled to suffer
    >> for his own wrongs.
    >>
    >> The justice system is supposed to be self-policing. It should clean up
    >> its own act rather than trying to maintain a false mask of integrity
    >> for lawyers that are obviously criminals. It is way beyond my
    >> understanding why you people would choose to support the likes of Paul
    >> Martin, Adrienne Clarkson, T. Alex Hickman and Billy Matthews if you
    >> are not all as crooked as hell as well. The deliberate ignorance and
    >> double-talk employed by the wealthy few to dodge simple truths is
    >> absolutely offensive to ordinary people blessed with the rare
    >> attribute called common sense. Not all folks are like sheep. Paul
    >> Martin’s latest tricks make for a very fine example of truly how bad
    >> things are. Even amidst wholesale scandals breaking out hell, west and
    >> crooked everywhere lawyers and politicians just close ranks and stand
    >> together as thick as the thieves they are. I stress tested the ethics
    >> of the ladies of the Bloc Quebecois and the Gomery Inquiry immediately
    >> after Martin’s carefully orchestrated little circus in Parliament on
    >> May 19th was a matter of history. Lets just say I was not surprised to
    >> not hear one peep in response from anyone other than to get a call
    >> from an unidentified and very nervous but cocky Yankee lawyer claiming
    >> that Tony Blair was mad at me.
    >>
    >> Pursuant to my phone calls, emails and faxes please find enclosed as
    >> promised exactly the same hard copy of what I sent to the Canadian
    >> Ambassadors Allan Rock and Franky Boy McKenna and a couple of nasty
    >> FBI agents on May 12th just before an interesting event in front of
    >> our home in Milton. I have also included a copy of four letters I have
    >> received in response since then that you may find interesting to say
    >> the least. I also sent you a copy of a letter sent to a lady Ms.
    >> Condolezza Rice whom our former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney
    >> considers to be the most powerful woman in the world. The CD of the
    >> copy of police surveillance tape # 139 is served upon all the above
    >> named Attorney Generals as officers of the court in order that it may
    >> be properly investigated. I will not bother you with the details of
    >> what I am sending to you byway of the certified US Mail because I will
    >> be serving identical material to many other Canadian Authorities in
    >> hand and tell them I gave this stuff to you first and enclose a copy
    >> of this letter. All that is important to me right now is that I secure
    >> proof that this mail was sent before I make my way back home to the
    >> Maritimes.
    >>
    >> However I will say I am also enclosing a great deal more material than
    >> what Allan Rock had received in the UN. Some of it is in fact the same
    >> material the two maritime lawyers, Rob Moore and Franky Boy McKenna in
    >> particular received, while I was up home running for Parliament last
    >> year. Things have changed greatly in the past year so I have also
    >> included a few recent items to spice things up for you. I am tired of
    >> trying to convince people employed in law enforcement to uphold the
    >> law. So all I will say for now is deal will your own conscience and be
    >> careful how you respond to this letter. If you do not respond. Rest
    >> assured I will do my best to sue you some day. Ignorance is no excuse
    >> to the law or me.
    >>
    >> Veritas Vincit
    >> David R. Amos
    >>
    >> The enclosed letter from The Public Service Integrity Office, whose
    >> boss recently testified before the Gomery Inquiry and following quotes
    >> prove why I must speak out.
    >>
    >> “Well what do you expect?” said Le Hir in reaction. “Anybody who had
    >> been involved in that kind of thing isn’t going to admit readily, or
    >> willfully, to having participated.” Asked why he’s waited 10 years to
    >> come out with his allegations, Le Hir said he was “sworn to secrecy.”
    >> “I’m breaking that oath, and the only way I could have been relieved
    >> by that oath was by a judge in a court saying, ‘Mr. Lehir, I
    >> understand that you have made an oath of secrecy; and you’re hereby
    >> relieved of that oath.” “Mr. Wallace added that police and the courts,
    >> not internal rules, are
    >> best-equipped to deal with bureaucrats who cross the line and break
    >> the law. But Judge Gomery did not appear satisfied. “It takes a major
    >> scandal to get the police involved,” he said. “It is not in the nature
    >> of the public service to call in the police.”
    >>
    >> Everybody knows that in order to protect the rights and interests of
    >> my Clan and to sooth my own soul, I have proven many times over that
    >> all lawyers, law enforcement authorities, and politicians in Canada
    >> and the USA are not worthy of the public trust. I maintain that their
    >> first order of business is to protect the evil longstanding system
    >> they have created for their own benefit rather than the people they
    >> claim to serve. Call me a liar and put it in writing. I Double Dog
    >> Dare ya.
    >>
    >> Baker got my material. So did everyone else. Only the Attorney General
    >> in Quecbec refused it. I bet our newest Governor General knows why. It
    >> is likely for the same reason she will not accept my emails. It should
    >> be obvious to anyone why I must sue the Crown.
    >>
    >>
    >> USPS Track and Confirm
    >>
    >> Label/Receipt Number: ED71 7170 440U S
    >> Detailed Results:
    >>
    >> Delivered Abroad, August 05, 2005, 9:23 am, CANADA
    >>
    >> At Foreign Delivery Unit, August 05, 2005, 8:10 am, CANADA
    >>
    >> Out of Foreign Customs, August 04, 2005, 2:52 pm, CANADA
    >>
    >> Into Foreign Customs, August 04, 2005, 2:22 pm, CANADA
    >>
    >> Arrived Abroad, August 04, 2005, 2:22 pm, CANADA
    >>
    >> International Dispatch, August 03, 2005, 10:28 am, KENNEDY AMC
    >>
    >> Enroute, August 03, 2005, 9:08 am, JAMAICA, NY 11499
    >>
    >> Acceptance, August 02, 2005, 10:32 am, QUINCY, MA 02169
    >>
    >

  2. David Amos July 30th, 2014 at 9:08 pm
    Here is why Glen Canning Retheah Parsons’ Father and Mr Harper’s bigtime fanboy asked me who the evil zionist Mr Baconfat was
    Clearly the corrupt cops in Halifax would do nothing AGAIN
    Facebook Halifax Regional Police
    Sonya D Higgins shared a link.
    August 14
    please investigate this hate site
    baconfat53 stupid-dead-rehteah-parsons-her-rotten
    The anti, anti Freemason, anti, anti Israel, and anti blog, blog:
    Stupid Dead Rehteah Parsons,…
    baconfat53 blogspot ca
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    remove the page.
    August 15 at 8:14am
    * Patrick HeartIt’s also important to note that we live in a country
    where free speech is respected and just because someone doesn’t like
    the content doesn’t mean it has to be removed. (I read the post, it’s
    clearly some idiot looking for attention… but a far, far stretch
    from being hate speech which is illegal in Canada.)
    August 15 at 10:28am· 1
    * Sonya D HigginsI am aware that the content is both distasteful and
    hurtful. I was wondering if it falls under the new cyber-bulllying
    law, becaue Rehteah and her family continue to be targets of trolls on
    the internet
    August 15 at 10:45am· 6
    * Jenn RichardsonWhat a COWARD hiding behind a blog!!!
    August 15 at 10:54am· 4
    * Karin KnorrHow is it not hateful???
    August 15 at 11:08am· 2
    * Patrick HeartThe Cyber Bullying law only applies to Nova Scotia and
    it is one of the most ridiculous and dangerous laws to threaten free
    speech to be enacted in Canada. Before anyone gets all emotional, read
    this article because it has consequences for all of you if someone
    doesn’t like anything you say online:
    -cyber-abuse-law-makes-bullies-of-us-all-184104046
    What happened to Rehteah was awful, but making knee jerk laws is not
    the answer! I for one, cannot wait until the law is challenged in
    court and thrown out. (Fortunately, the rest of Canada is looking at
    our Government like they are idiots — which they clearly are for
    enacting this law.)
    August 15 at 11:38am· 4
    * Janice HigginsI can’t figure out how to report it. not just this
    blog but others there. Not fit, such hateful ppl. Halifax Regional
    Police now that you are aware of that blog site can you please report
    it, or advise us how to report? It goes beyond distasteful, some sick
    ppl exist!
    August 15 at 11:39am
    * Matt Carsonhtt wiki/Defamation, i draw you’r
    attention to his other articles labeled “lets bully david amos and his
    children” or “faggots dykes and political correctness” or how about
    “Die Larry Cutarm, Indians are drunken pigs” what part of this is not
    hate speech?
    August 15 at 5:22pm· 1
    * Matthew Byardwhy would you promote this?
    August 16 at 11:40am




Edmonton councillor apologizes, plans to reimburse city for MBA tuition

Coun. Jon Dziadyk was using ward budget to pay two-thirds of cost of MBA


Coun. Jon Dziadyk says he will reimburse about $11,000 to the City of Edmonton he has spent so far to cover studies at University of Alberta. (John Shypitka/CBC)


Edmonton city councillor Jon Dziadyk apologized to constituents Thursday and promised to repay $11,000 in taxpayer money used for tuition toward an Executive MBA at the University of Alberta.

"I'm very sorry I broke the trust of my constituents," Dziadyk told reporters at city hall. "I acknowledge that using my ward funds for professional development was not appropriate."

Dziadyk said he enrolled last September in the two-year degree program, which costs $67,000. He said he had already paid about $17,000 in tuition for the first semester, which ended in September.

Two-thirds of that money came from his ward budget.



"Of course I'm not going to be submitting any more claims in pursuit of this degree," he said.
The change of heart came hours after a story about Dziadyk's MBA plan was posted to CBC News and aired on CBC Radio.

The councillor said he changed his mind after getting feedback Thursday.

The story posted on CBC's website drew almost 900 comments, most of them critical.

"I've heard from people that they think it was inappropriate, and I recognize those concerns as very legitimate," he said.

On Wednesday, Dziadyk said he had received positive feedback about his plan to take an MBA, after talking with constituents in person and posting his academic aspirations on his blog.

"I am well aware that my budget is publicly disclosed," he said. "I wasn't trying to deceive anyone."
Dziadyk was elected in Ward 3 in the October 2017 municipal election, ousting incumbent Dave Loken.

What about the 'smell test?'


Coun. Bev Esslinger said she supports professional development for councillors, within reason.
"We have to be guardians of the public purse," she said, adding spending must pass "the smell test" based on "what would your constituents think?
"
Esslinger pointed out that the city's new ethics adviser is available to consult when the path doesn't seem clear.

"And I think you should use it," she added. 

Coun. Bev Esslinger supports clearer guidelines under the councillors' budget and expenses policy. (John Shyptika/CBC)
Dziadyk told CBC News on Wednesday that he hadn't consulted the city's ethics advisor, Brent Rathgeber.

Rathgeber began his advisory duties last September — the same month Dziadyk started the MBA program.

Rathgeber told CBC in an email that he's available for "confidential legal and ethical advice to councillors upon request," but his advice is privileged and cannot be disclosed.

Dziadyk then told reporters Thursday that he consulted Rathgeber recently, who said he hadn't broken any rules.

"I want people to realize that I'm not in any way trying to abuse the system," Dziadyk said. "In fact, whatever what I did was perfectly compliant."

Coun. Tim Cartmell, who on Wednesday declined to comment regarding Dziadyk's use of ward money, expressed his concern on Facebook Thursday.



Tim Cartmell - Ward 9 City Councillor
5 hours ago
I’m disappointed about the news that one of my colleagues has used their Ward budget to fund an executive degree.
I recognize that Councillor Dziadyk has apologized and agreed to reimburse the costs of his program, but I believe a greater issue remains regarding discretionary spending.
Our greatest responsibility as elected officials is to serve our constituents, and Councillors are afforded a discretionary budget with which to do so.
It is my hope that the Ethics Advisor or Integrity Commissioner can advise City Council about what changes might be needed to the rules for how Councillors can use their Ward budgets to best fulfill their responsibilities to their constituents and the city.



Coun. Sarah Hamilton echoed sentiments from Esslinger and Coun. Andrew Knack.

"At the end of the day, the opinion that matters is those of the people you represent," Hamilton said.

"You have to be able to justify your actions to the people who elected you to do a job. And it is a full time job."

Several councillors support clearer rules on what is appropriate spending under their budget and expenses policy, which currently doesn't set out specific amounts.

"It needs to be professional development, not personal development," Esslinger said. "I think it's better to have a number in there as a guideline."

At a committee meeting Monday, council agreed to review the policy and come up with more concrete rules by April.


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Jody Wilson-Raybould says she's bound by 'solicitor-client privilege,' won't comment on SNC-Lavalin scandal

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I repeat I am not anonymous Methinks anyone can Google "Federal Court File No. T-1557-15" and start reading N'esy Pas?


 https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/jody-wilson-raybould-says-shes-bound-by.html





https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-committee-snc-lavalin-1.5011161



Jody Wilson-Raybould says she's bound by 'solicitor-client privilege,' won't comment on SNC-Lavalin scandal




3639 Comments




Jack Hill 
Jack Hill
I voted for Trudeau, but this issue is beyond partisan politics. I support the Conservative and NDP calls for a full investigation.

It seems to be apparent that Trudeau spoke to Raybold on this matter but did not order her to do it; it's still illegal influencing.

It's difficult to believe Trudeau's statements that Canada is a law and order country, when it appears to the world that he is not.


John Smith
John Smith
@Jack Hill Trudeau said they respect the independence of the judiciary only a few months after speaking out with condemnation on the judgement handed down in the Stanley trial. His actions and words are not consistent at all in this regard. I tend to believe the actions of a man better reflect their true feeling than their words.

Jack Hill
Jack Hill
@John Smith

Trudeau also spoke about law and order with regard to the Huawei case.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Jack Hill

Love conservatives pretending they voted for Trudeau then only to spout out conservative talking points.

Lol..
Witch hunt Andy will get no where and this is a nothing story. 67000 jobs created and 115000 by private sector, canadians are working while Andy is trying to be relevant

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Jack Hill In my view, liberal partisans should be the most vocal about getting to the bottom of this.
Vinit Khosla
Vinit Khosla
@Troy Mann Do you realize it’s highly partisan and presumptive to think that people who criticize Trudeau are always conservative?

David Smythe
David Smythe
@Jack Hill
I've come to believe that Canadians are incapable of producing a competent leader who even tries to obey the laws of Canada, whether that is in Federal or Provincial politics.

I hope this story is not true, but if it is JT should get the whole of the legal system thrown at him.

I'm sick of every politician being ethically corrupt and entirely self serving.

Ernest Gregson
Ernest Gregson
@Troy Mann
Governments of any stripe have virtually nothing to do with employment. Hanging your hat on that as some type of success is just nonsense.

Edward Peter
Edward Peter
@Jack Hill
" It seems to be apparent......."
Where?, How?, because Mr. Sheer does not know about it until a G&M reporter writes an article about what some guy told him, but about a possible conflict that might be a suggested reason for an unexplained event.
Do you have an evidence that you voted Liberal?

Edward Peter
Edward Peter
@David Smythe
If you believe every rumour then you will never be happy.

wal wiseman
wal wiseman
@Jack Hill They can wave their "solicitor-client privilege" if they don't have anything to hide.

Phil Mein
Phil Mein
@Troy Mann "Love conservatives pretending they voted for Trudeau then only to spout out conservative talking points. "

So how is it you "know" how this person voted? Magic 8 ball? Then you deflect with job stats? FOX news uses "what-about-ism" to deflect debate as well.

David Smythe
David Smythe
@Edward Peter
Who needs rumours when there is so much evidence of politicians being duplicitous?

Like I said, I HOPE IT IS NOT TRUE. That is me NOT believing in rumours and hoping they are not true.

I am just a little too cynical about politicians I guess.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Phil Mein

Conservatives know they have zero credibility so they pretend to be Liberal yet they always spout out conservative talking points.

This scam has been long figured out, just see how many times Jack has said that some phrase.

Stanley Baird
Stanley Baird
@Jack Hill time for Justin to tell the truth, apologize, and then resign

bill laplante
bill laplante
@David Smythe I am pretty sure Harper was working for the good of Canada

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@bill laplante

Said no one ever

bill laplante
bill laplante
@Troy Mann Hi Troy, how are things at "Leadnow" this morning

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "Conservatives know they have zero credibility so they pretend to be Liberal yet they always spout out conservative talking points. "

Trust that Mr Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker.

Everybody knows I about to put that matter before the Supreme Court of Canada and file several more lawsuits against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again.

Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No." in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau should have paid particular attention to statement 83 of my lawsuit long before he was elected in October of 2015 N'esy Pas?

Sophia Riangulo
Sophia Riangulo
@Jack Hill Thank you! I wish more people would hold their own party accountable and look inward when it comes to any political scandal.



Karen King
Karen King
@Jack Hill
"It seems to be apparent that Trudeau spoke to Raybold on this matter but did not order her to do it; it's still illegal influencing. "

That's the part I don't understand.....how is it influencing if he did not tell her to do anything...not allowed to ask anymore??

Karen King
Karen King
@Phil Mein

Yup and wee Andy has taken to exaggerating on a lot of issues, that does not help matters just divides more.

Karen King
Karen King
@Sophia Riangulo

of course but sometimes the opposition is h e l l bent on creating a scandal when there is none....

Edward Carson
Edward Carson
@Jack Hill
Under no circumstances can SNC Lavalin ever be offered a deferred prosecution or remediation agreement. Any such potential settlement will be forever tainted. The case before the court must progress to whatever conclusion is reached

Peter Samson
Peter Samson
@Troy Mann "Witch hunt Andy will get no where and this is a nothing story. 67000 jobs created and 115000 by private sector, canadians are working while Andy is trying to be relevant"

The irony of course is you're making the exact same argument as Trump. "Who cares about Russia? Just look at the low unemployment!" You even use Trump's personal favorite- "Witch hunt"- for good measure. It's sad to me that the political extremes (of which you appear to be a part) are just mirror images of each other. Willing to engage in the exact same terrible behaviour when it suits their purpose. Blind partisanship.

Sophia Riangulo
Sophia Riangulo
@Karen King I completely agree, but that's why it's a lesson to us all to take all allegations seriously, but with a grain of salt, whether they're allegations to the party we voted for or otherwise.

Corinne O'Connor
Corinne O'Connor
@bill laplante

Leadnow are just as harsh and critical of the Conservatives and NDP. What Leadnow wants is good government.

Donald Simpson
Donald Simpson
@Troy Mann what a loud of bs

David Amos
David Amos
@Donald Simpson Methinks thats an understatement N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@Edward Carson YUP







Sophia Riangulo 
Daryl McBride
Scheer is the only choice next election and the only one holding the current government to account.


Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Daryl McBride

By wanting a witch hunt? Lol

67000 jobs created last month
115000 private sector jobs
Navy frigate contract signed meaning more work for canadians.

Darren MacDonald
Darren MacDonald
@Troy Mann 100K Timmies jobs so you won't have to wait in line too long for your next coffee.

dave dennison
dave dennison
@Daryl McBride imagine that. Frighties relying on, of all things, msm for their indignation.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Darren MacDonald

Why do you hate the fact that canadians are working and jobs are being created?

If service jobs are being created it is because canadians are out spending and needing to be serviced.

Why do you hate Canada being successful Daryl?

Darren MacDonald
Darren MacDonald
@Troy Mann"If service jobs are being created it is because canadians are out spending and needing to be serviced."
And spending way beyond their means.

dave dennison
dave dennison
@Darren MacDonald what would you like the PM to do about that?

Matt Thuaii
Matt Thuaii
@Daryl McBride

Based on: his robotic attempts to connect with the public (harkening back to our beloved Harper, whom we’re all led to believe he’s nothing like, in spite of appearances), his relentless attacks against the government with zero accompanying solutions, and his complete lack of a coherent platform. Ok...Here’s the safer bet for Election Day:

Canadians overwhelmingly still like Trudeau, the right in Canada will be split between the rudderless Cons and the White Sup...I mean the Canada First Super Amazing Party, and NDP will remain lost in the wilderness = another slightly weaker but intact Liberal government.

Daryl McBride
Daryl McBride
@Matt Thuaii

"Canadians overwhelmingly still like Trudeau"

Trudeau has a lower approval rating than Trump and stuff like this is why.

John Anderson
John Anderson
@Daryl McBride
Harper had nothing but bad ideas
Scheer has no ideas
I suppose that's an improvement

Victor Fur
Victor Fur
@Daryl McBride

Don't go all nuts and everyone and their mother vote for the PC party. Let's have a balance here. We need the underdogs to be powerful enough to challenge a dominating party. This is what happened in Ontario and now we are all saddled with an unfettered government that decides how to manage on an AD HOC basis.

It remains unfortunate that we need to vote strategically.

Pat Smith
Pat Smith
@Daryl McBride

LibCon party support the same corporations and puppet masters. Time to send a message.

Jacqueline Beava
Jacqueline Beava
@Daryl McBride Scheer needed to withdraw two Conservative campaign ads in six months because they were poorly vetted and tone deaf. He sent two MPs to Fox News to rally against an elected Liberal Government. He isn't a prudent choice. I believe the SNC scandal is true so Trudeau isn't fit to govern. Maxime Bernier wants to privatized health care. The NDP is lost and the Green party has unrealistic policies. It's too bad Rona Ambrose left politics.

Jaime Gonzalez
Jaime Gonzalez
@Daryl McBride Max is the best choice for the right. That’s how I’m voting.

Stanley Baird
Stanley Baird
@Daryl McBride time for Trudeau to resign although it would better better for Sheer to run against Trudeau now,

Harry Henderson
Troy Mann
@Stanley Baird

If Harper resigned based on anonymous sources he would have lasted a week

Harry Henderson
Harry Henderson
@Troy Mann

Most of us hate the fact that hundreds of thousands of Canadians are underemployed, working poor paying jobs that they are way over-qualified for. Get it? If you need $$ to pay your mortgage, you will do anything including working at Timmy's or McD's. This is not good long-term for our economy.
Harry Henderson
Harry Henderson
@John Anderson

And Trudeau is a puppet. Is that better? He's not even close to intelligent enough to make big boy decisions.

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "If Harper resigned based on anonymous sources he would have lasted a week"

Methinks Mr Scheer and everybody else knows that I am definitely NOT anonymous. Everybody knows I sued the Crown when Harper was the PM and I got an answer from Peter Mackay before polling day and the lawyer Jody Wilson-Raybould had yet to be elected let alone be appointed to be OUR Attorney General not just Mr Trudeau's N'esy Pas?


Karen King
Karen King
@Daryl McBride

Nope not even close, Sheer is the least qualified I have seen so far. At least Harper started off on the right foot...Andy is just causing chaos...look at his time as speaker...ugh!

Corinne O'Connor
Corinne O'Connor
@Daryl McBride

Just a reminder of all the Harper and Conservative party scandals:

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/10/Harper-Abuses-of-Power-Final/

Matt Thuaii
Matt Thuaii
@John Smith

If you really do believe in all those things, you’ll be voting against your own interests if you vote Conservative.

Good luck with that.

Matt Thuaii
Matt Thuaii
@Daryl McBride

We aren’t America. We have four “viable” leaders and 20% undecided. Under those conditions, 35% isn’t bad. That and you’re comparing him to Trump, who’s high approval rating says more about the sad state of America than it does about how competent he is (he isn’t). But I fear your sentiment is correct; Canadians are more than foolish enough to forget painful lessons of the past, and be blinded with pipe dreams of greener grass elsewhere...

...one need look no further than the election of Doug Ford for proof.

Matt Thuaii
Matt Thuaii
@Pat Smith

What message would that be? Vote Con? Vote Green? Don’t vote at all? I’m no optimist. I assume the same old tricks will be played in the run up to the election, Canadians will once again be duped into voting for a blue tie or red, and things will continue as they always have.

In the end, I prefer the mediocre I know to the terrible...I also know.

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Thuaii Methinks you get the governments you deserve N'esy Pas?










Jack Hill 
Jack Hill
Like many Canadians, I voted for Trudeau to remove Harper.

Like many Canadians, I will vote in the next election to remove Trudeau.

Canada is such a failure when Canadians don't vote to install new ideas, but vote to remove old ones.


Adam Osborne
Adam Osborne
@Jack Hill you aren't wrong.

Tina Falco
Tina Falco
@Jack Hill

Hear hear!

Claude Gravel
Claude Gravel
@Jack Hill Be careful. Nothing helps sell newspapers more than "an annonymous source" as said by another contributor here. A new law was enacted permitting an out of court settlement with SNC-Lavallin. Words are coming out in all directions on this issue and people need to stand back and make sense of it. First, the Federal Government NEEDS SNC-Lavallin for its big projects. SNC-Lavallin is a world class engineering firm. It is the pride of Canada. Surely you would not want to see it bought out by another country would you? I suggest you dig around and do some research. You will learn things you do not know at this point.

Richard Donald
Richard Donald
@Claude Gravel Pride of Canada?? What and incredibly low standard of pride?

Chris Hatherley
Chris Hatherley
@Jack Hill
Why don't you just vote for good policy?

Edward Peter
Edward Peter
@Claude Gravel
I wonder how many Conservatives MPs voted for the new Law?

Troy Bodi
Troy Bodi
@Chris Hatherley

I've been doing that for years. One day Greens will get in but I'm afraid that day is a long way off.

Brock Lester
Brock Lester
@Jack Hill Sounds like you need to read campaigns before voting. Also sounds like you were never Liberal to begin with.

Trudeau is getting stuff done unlike Harper.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Brock Lester

Anyone who states at this point they are voting to remove Trudeau for Sheer is an old stock con being a con.

Witch hunts based on anonymous sources do not change opinions.

67,000 jobs created last month

Harry Henderson
Harry Henderson
@Claude Gravel

China tried buying Aecon (large construction company) and failed. Canada will not allow another country to purchase SNC for the same reasons. But I'm sure you knew this since you spout off on here all day long.



David Amos
David Amos
@Harry Henderson Whats your point?

Everybody knows Harper allowed the Chinese to by Nexen after stopping BHP from taking over Power Corp. Now Kevin Lynch Paul Martin's former Deputy Minister of Finance and Harper's former Clerk of the Privy Council is a director of the China National Offshore Oil Corporation .

Methinks you must know what my point is They are all as crooked as hell no matter what colour their political coat is N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann Whereas I will be running again why would I vote to either of them? Methinks that would be rather dumb N'esy Pas?


Mike Banton
Mike Banton
@David Amos FFS "N'esy Pas" isn't a word in any language, it just shows ignorance on your part as you keep using it , even after being told correct spelling!

David Amos
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David Amos
@Mike Banton Methinks you snobby Anglos have never been down to the Bay of Fundy and parlied in a little of the Chiac lingo with the Leblanc boys like my Clan has for hundreds of years N'esy Pas?



Patricia Henderson
Patricia Henderson
@Mike Banton Thank-you for pointing that out. Amos is hands down the most annoying commenter on this site. All we can do is down-vote everything he says that includes that inane phrase.

Fiona Lang
Fiona Lang
@Claude Gravel That new law slid into a omni-budget bill shocked even Liberals. It was crafted to protect entities like Bombardier and SNC-Lavalin, Trudeau's friends. Certainly not to protect all the Oil and Gas companies Trudeau and Butts destroyed these last 3 1/2 years. Wow if Harper did something similar, the MSM would be having a field month with it, a dog with a bone!

David Amos 
David Amos
@Mike Banton Why are my replies to snobby Anglos always blocked?
David Amos
David Amos
@Patricia Henderson Oh My












Sophia Riangulo 
Daryl McBride
All of Canada wants an investigation except die hard Liberals.


Jack Hill
Jack Hill
@Daryl McBride

I have to agree with you.

jim miller
jim miller
@Daryl McBride you are generalizing far too much.
I'm not a die hard for any party and don't want an investigation because Canada will get nothing from it save lawyer bills.

Rick Bailey
Rick Bailey
@Daryl McBride

"In an interview with CBC Radio's The House, Lametti said that if the justice committee proceeds with such a study, he would agree to appear.

"I would appear before the committee. Of course I would," he said."

Jose Smith
Jose Smith
@jim miller
So you want it to be just swept under the rug I see

Denis Dalore
Denis Dalore
@jim miller Actually, we will get something out of it. Honest government. It's worth the price.

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Daryl McBride Die hard liberals should be the most vocal about conducting an investigation!

Alan Humphreys
Alan Humphreys
@Ron Brady -"Die hard liberals should be the most vocal about conducting an investigation"? I agree. Somebody can be loyal to a party but when that party does something that appears dubious and requires investigation then to continue to defend the party smacks of blind partisanship.

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Alan Humphreys Indeed. Who trusts a leader more than his/her supporters?

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Daryl McBride

You dont speak for all of Canada and only cons want a witch hunt based on anonymous sources

Daryl McBride
Daryl McBride
@Troy Mann It appears the NDP does as well.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Daryl McBride

No one cares about Singh

Edward Peter
Edward Peter
@Daryl McBride
You have had a Poll done in the last 48 hours since the Media story can out, what were the %s ?
Or is this one of the Cons favorite sayings " Everybody knows.......(Some Con's promotion)....."

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "No one cares about Singh"

Methinks the majority of Canadians don't care about your beloved liberals either N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "You dont speak for all of Canada and only cons want a witch hunt based on anonymous sources"

You definitely don't speak for me and I am no con and yet I want Trudeau investigated. Methinks it time or you to take a nap because you are grasping a straws and making no sense N'esy Pas?










Sophia Riangulo 
Steve Sax
She worked for the Public, for the People of Canada, not Justy or Jerry. Hence there is not Solicter-client priveledge

You are an elected official serving the people, own up JWR


Edward Peter
Edward Peter
@Steve Sax
You are telling her what the Laws are in Canada????

Troy Bodi
Troy Bodi
@Steve Sax

Either way, she's only protecting Trudeau. Story is that she took the proper route and refused. And got demoted for it.

Jaime Gonzalez
Jaime Gonzalez
@Steve Sax - She’s bound by an NDA, possibly by other means not to speak about what happens in closed-door meetings. On the other hand, she didn’t just blow it off. This speaks volumes.

David Amos
David Amos
@Steve Sax Methinks everybody want to forget that I have bee arguing Jody in Federal Court since the moment Trudeau appointed her Hence she does not represent me N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Edward Peter "You are telling her what the Laws are in Canada????"

I have many times in writing and while arguing her lawyers



Patricia Henderson
Patricia Henderson
@Steve Sax WE, the CANADIAN PEOPLE are the client, not SNC Lavalin. We pay her salary, not that company. How could she get that so wrong?

Fiona Lang
Fiona Lang
@Steve Sax She and perhaps some of her staff are the only ones who can clear the air and let the truth be known. I think Canadian people deserve that answer. Glad she did not cave in to the pressure to go along with the PMO and SNC-Lavalin.

David Amos
David Amos
@Patricia Henderson Get a lawyer









Sophia Riangulo 
Ron Brady
The silence is deafening.


Brian Allen
Brian Allen
@Ron Brady

It’s quiet condemnation in my view.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Ron Brady

Makes for a good witch hunt though eh

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Troy Mann Just answers, that's all. Is that too much to ask?

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Ron Brady

They did answer
You dont like the answer
So you created a witch hunt

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Troy Mann Troy, I think it's fair to say that Canadians of all political stripes are owed a proper explanation. Don't you?

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Ron Brady

The government denied a story based on anonymous sources, nuff said.

Witch hunts are based on anonymous sources nothing else

Phil Mein
Phil Mein
@Ron Brady I think Troy would condone any and all transgressions for Justin.

David Smith
David Smith
@Troy Mann Donald, is that you?

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Phil Mein

Nope
I never accepted anonymous sources during the Harper years and wont now

Phil Mein
Phil Mein
@Troy Mann I seen enough from you to know the truth is opposite of what you state .

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Phil Mein

Sure Phil
Run around crying over anonymous sources if you like, not my way to roll.

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann I repeat I am not anonymous and you certainly know it

Methinks anyone can Google "David Amos Federal Court File no" and start ready N'esy Pas?









Eric Wirta 
Eric Wirta
The Canadian voters have rights and we want to hear the truth , Not silence


Tim Joseph
Tim Joseph
@Eric Wirta Guess you dont understand the legal system.

Rob Grace
Rob Grace
@Tim Joseph

So the legal system doesn't allow for the truth?

Eric Wirta
Eric Wirta
@Tim Joseph
why is the legal system involved , are the Liberals all guilty

Rex Yuan
Rex Yuan
@Eric Wirta
Yes, Canadian taxpayers want to know and particularly why the harper administration turned a blind eye to this abusive illegal actions for a decade.
wal wiseman
wal wiseman
@Eric Wirta I guess the PM does have something to hide.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@wal wiseman

PM denied the accusations made by an anonymous source

Witch hunt is all this is

We have better things to deal with like 67000 jobs created, 115000 private sector jobs. Navy frigates are moving forward meaning more jobs for canadians.

Tyler Brown
Tyler Brown
@Troy Mann
It's not a witch hunt, it's a weasel hunt.

David Amos
David Amos
@Eric Wirta I wholeheartedly agree









Keith Newcastle
Keith Newcastle
And we get the typical response from our PM: he just denies and shrugs it off as if it were some trivial nonsense. MPs, and especially the PM and Ministers, are supposed to avoid even the appearance of impropriety.


Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Keith Newcastle

Denying and shrugging off anonymous sources is all one can really do.

Keith Newcastle
Keith Newcastle
@Troy Mann : Not anonymous sources, unnamed sources. The Globe knows who they are (otherwise they would never have published), they are simply protecting the identities of the whistle-blowers.

Tyler Brown
Tyler Brown
@Troy Mann
Or call for a full investigation to prove your innocence, if that is the case. You could do that too.

wal wiseman
wal wiseman
@Troy Mann Just because the 'Globe and Mail' have chosen not to reveal their source doesn't mean they don't know who it is.

David Amos
David Amos
@wal wiseman True



Szilvánusz Gorgiás
Szilvánusz Gorgiás
@Keith Newcastle: Not to mention that since the Globe knows who they are these whistleblowers must be pretty trustworthy sources for the story to be printed.

David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos "PM and Ministers, are supposed to avoid even the appearance of impropriety"

Oh So True Otherwise they don't fit the title Honourable

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "Denying and shrugging off anonymous sources is all one can really do."

Methinks you think that judge Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond is just talking the talk N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/snc-lavalin-pmo-pressure-wilson-raybould-1.5010009







Sophia Riangulo 
Bill McStravick
I want an investigation to see how much money has been donated to the Trudeau foundation by employees, directors, board members of SNC Lavalin.


Linda ST-AMANT
Linda ST-AMANT
@Bill McStravick I think if you also research the McGill University Health Foundation there might be a connection.

Cameron Kernick
Cameron Kernick
@Bill McStravick Yes the details of where SNC Lavalin's $117,000 of illegal campaign contributions that they pleaded guilty to less than a month ago would be interesting:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/election-financing-snclavalin-charbonneau-1.4984823

Brad Mercier
Brad Mercier
@Cameron Kernick
112, 000 went to the Liberals and 3,000 went to the conservatives in illegal contributions

David Amos
David Amos
@Bill McStravick Good Point










Ryan A. Fox 
Ryan A. Fox
The Justice Minister does not have Attorney Client Privilege under Canadian law. This is a public official and accountable to the people through parliament.

The game she is playing needs to end. The corruption of "Sunny Ways" and his gang of thieves needs to be exposed.


Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Ryan A. Fox

The attorney general is the lead lawyer for the government, thus attorney client privilege exists.

Witch hunts based on anonymous sources are funny stuff
wal wiseman
wal wiseman
@Troy Mann They can alway waive the 'solicitor-client privilege' if they have nothing to hide and did nothing wrong.

Eric Meinert
Eric Meinert
@wal wiseman Exactly.

Cameron Kernick
Cameron Kernick
@Ryan A. Fox Have patience, there is no game playing here just waiting for the right time in the right committee or court room to speak truth to power. Trudeau still doesn't realize what he did when he demoted Wilson-Raybould and she will 'represent' when the time is right.


Stanley Baird
Stanley Baird
@Ryan A. Fox agreed this is a complete cop out, except this seem to confirm that she did her talking thru the Globe and Mail. Goodbye Justin - firing a justice minister for doing the right thing is disgusting

David Amos
FDavid Amos
@Troy Mann "The attorney general is the lead lawyer for the government, thus attorney client privilege exists."

Methinks she cannot assist in criminal activity N'esy Pas?





Jody Wilson-Raybould says she's bound by 'solicitor-client privilege,' won't comment on SNC-Lavalin scandal

Media report suggests PMO pressured former attorney general to intervene in fraud case


A Globe and Mail story Thursday said Jody Wilson-Raybould was shuffled from her portfolio after she refused to ask federal prosecutors to make a plea bargain deal with Montreal-based SNC-Lavalin. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould said Friday she would not comment on claims that the Prime Minister's Office tried to pressure her to help SNC-Lavalin avoid criminal prosecution in pending legal action against the construction company.

"As the former minister of justice and attorney general of Canada, I am bound by solicitor-client privilege in this matter," she said.

In her role as attorney general, Wilson-Raybould served as the government's top lawyer and the chief law officer of the Crown — nominally representing the government in all of its prosecutions.




Her comment came after Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer called for an emergency meeting of the House of Commons justice committee to question high-ranking officials about the matter.

Scheer also suggested Friday morning that his party is looking at pursuing unspecified "legal avenues" if the governing Liberals "continue to cover this up."

The Globe and Mail reported Thursday that Wilson-Raybould, who was shuffled from her portfolio in January, felt pressured to direct federal prosecutors with the Public Prosecution Service of Canada (PPSC) to make a "deferred prosecution arrangement"— a deal akin to a plea bargain — with the Montreal-based engineering firm SNC-Lavalin to avoid a trial.

Federal prosecutors have so far refused to reach a negotiated settlement with the company.

The lack of a settlement probably has cost SNC more than $5 billion in lost revenue and continues to damage its reputation internationally, Chief Executive Officer Neil Bruce told BNN Bloomberg TV in an interview last month.

"It weakens our position as a business because basically our competition ... use this mercilessly against us and have been doing so for the past six years. We know we've lost out on a number of contracts,"

Bruce said. "Clients in the end will not take the chance on a picking SNC-Lavalin even though we provide a great service and a great bid."

The Globe, citing anonymous sources, said Trudeau's office then tried to press Wilson-Raybould to intervene to press for a negotiated resolution.

The lobbyist registry shows representatives of SNC-Lavalin logged more than 50 meetings with federal officials and parliamentarians on subjects that included "justice" and "law enforcement."

"It would appear to any reasonable person the prime minister fired Ms. Wilson-Raybould when she refused to give into his demands," Scheer said, referring to Wilson-Raybould's move from the high-profile Justice portfolio to the Veterans Affairs ministry.

"This matter strikes at the very heart of our rule of law and calls into serious question the ethics and conduct of those at the highest levels of the prime minister's office."

SNC-Lavalin has been charged with fraud and corruption in connection with payments of nearly $48 million to public officials in Libya under Moammar Gadhafi's government, and allegations it defrauded Libyan organizations of an estimated $130 million.

The company is contesting the case and has pleaded not guilty. The case is at the preliminary hearing stage.

If convicted, the company could be blocked from competing for federal government contracts for a decade.

This is not the first instance of legal trouble for the publicly traded company. Indeed, its former CEO, Pierre Duhaime, pled guilty last week to a charge of helping a public servant commit breach of trust for his role in a bribery scandal around the construction of a $1.3-billion Montreal hospital.

Duhaime left SNC-Lavalin in March 2012 after an independent review found that he had approved $56-million in payments to undisclosed agents.

Trudeau calls allegations 'false'


On Thursday, Trudeau denied that he or his staff "directed" Wilson-Raybould to intervene. At one point, in reply to a journalist's question, Trudeau said in French that he never "asked" her to make any decisions in the case.

"The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false," Trudeau said. "Neither the current nor the previous attorney general was ever directed by me, or by anyone in my office, to take a decision in this matter."
The Conservative and New Democrat MPs on the House of Commons standing committee on justice and human rights want to meet and demand a session to question members of the PMO and other officials about the allegations, according to Scheer.

They say they want to question the following officials:
  • Wilson-Raybould (former justice minister, now veterans affairs minister).
  • Minister of Justice and Attorney General David Lametti.
  • Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick.
  • Director of Public Prosecutions Kathleen Roussel.
  • Chief of staff to the prime minister Katie Telford.
  • Principal secretary to the prime minister Gerald Butts.
  • Senior adviser to the prime minister Mathieu Bouchard.
  • Senior adviser to the prime minister Elder Marques.
  • Chief of staff to the minister of Veterans Affairs Jessica Prince.
"If the prime minister has nothing to hide, as he has suggested, then he should have no reason to fear these individuals appearing before the justice committee," Scheer told reporters Friday morning.

In an interview with CBC Radio's The House, Lametti said that if the justice committee proceeds with such a study, he would agree to appear.

"I would appear before the committee. Of course I would," he said.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh is also calling for an ethics investigation into the allegations.
With files from the CBC's Elizabeth Thompson and The Canadian Press

CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices


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Minister removed member of Sussex-area commission after harassment complaint

Local Government Minister Jeff Carr used his broad powers to remove Studholm commission representative

New Brunswick Local Government Minister Jeff Carr has broad powers to remove members of the province's regional service commissions from office. (CBC)




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Who is Gallant to anyone now? Methinks Ottawa needs to watch its back now that the Conservatives and the NDP have their knives out and Jody's daddy is on the warpath again N'esy Pas?


 https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/17-million-bid-for-francophonie-games.html





https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/francophonie-games-low-bid-francoise-roy-1.5011689


$17-million bid for Francophonie Games lacked advice from Ottawa



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Shawn Tabor
Shawn Tabor
Excuses gets 1 point......Accountability 0. Sound Familiar anyone.


David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn Tabor Mais Oui







David Amos 
David Amos
Who believes Francoise Roy, the deputy minister of tourism, heritage and culture?

Survey Says?








Matt Steele 
Matt Steele
Lots of SPIN going on about these failed Francophonie Games that nearly cost taxpayers 130 MILLION dollars . Now the explanation seems to be that there were no Prov. Govt. employees , or games PAID organizers , who were actually competent enough to create an accurate budget . So without the Federal Govt. doing a budget for them , the PAID organizers just plugged random costs into the budget ; and Brian Gallant rubber stamped the submission . Maybe the solution would be to ACTUALLY HIRE GOVT. EMPLOYEES THAT ARE COMPETENT ; and NOT hire based on who can speak french , and who political friends are !!!


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Matt Steele, crosseur!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks many think the same about you N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, who cares? No skin off my neck!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps I thought you had scales

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, like your species!









Shawn Tabor 
Lou Bell
So basically , an incompetent government appointed an incompetent committee who put in an incompetent bid that was over 3 times that of a competitor AND WON !! Sounds like incompetency all the way around , right from the Francophonie at the top right down to those at the bottom . And all for the low sum of 130 MILLION DOLLARS !!!


daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Lou Bell Oh , they are not " incompetent"....they just don't care.....about the taxpayer. They serve their masters.

David Amos
David Amos
@daryl doucette Oh So True








Shawn Tabor 
daryl doucette
What a load of crap. Now Trudeau and Dominique are trying to blame a working stiff for this folly of the " Francophonie Games". Guys, just get over it. You guys got caught with your hands in the cookie jar. You should be concentrating your efforts on filling out job applications dated October 20, 2019 instead of attempting to bull s$% us more.


Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@daryl doucette

Totally agree !!! And talking about hands in the cookie jar, what is with the multi million dollar complex going up on Providence St. beside the Georges Dumont Hospital in Moncton ?? Main player being Dr. Ouellette who is really close friends with Dominic LeBlanc, Victor Boudreau, Brian Gallant and is a staunch Liberal supporter...... Remember when Saint John raised the money for new equipment and Boudreau had a fit........... Now all of this is happening, I wonder where Ouellette got all of this funding for this massive project ?? How much is taxpayers money ??

David Amos
David Amos
@Mack Leigh Thanks for the tip









Douglas James 
Douglas James
Gimme a break! I have no experience in hosting an international sporting event of this magnitude and even I would have known that $17 million seriously underestimated the true cost. You don't have to be an 'expert' to know when things are completely out of whack. What did they do, pull the $17 million out of a hat? It had to be based on some kind of calculation and it should have been obvious from the get go that it wasn't nearly enough. More likely they low-balled it in an effort to get the games figuring all along that governments would bail them out. Gallant likely went along with the charade and had he won the election, he would have bailed them out at our expense.


David Amos
David Amos
@Douglas James Its not rocket science

Graham McCormack
Graham McCormack
@Douglas James Have you not been paying attention? The 17 million was the number included in the template.

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Graham McCormack
" The 17 million was the number included in the template."
And the template was provided by the international francophonie committee.








Shawn Tabor 
Mack Leigh
This whole fiasco stinks of corruption, collusion, nepotism and possibly fraud... In my opinion there needs to be a complete investigation and let the heads roll where they may..


David Amos
David Amos
@Mack Leigh I concur








Shawn Tabor 
Richard Dunn
It cost Ottawa/Gatineau $50 Million to host the games 20 years ago. I am not sure how anyone with a brain could think we could host them for 65% less 20 years later.

To me it was clear deception to get the games, and sweep the true cost under the rug. The problem was that Gallant assumed he would be premier forever and could manipulate this to his advantage.

We don't need an inquiry to get to the bottom of this. it seems pretty obvious. I would hope that Gallant, and his buddies, are proud of the scam they pulled off.


DJ Redfern
DJ Redfern
@Richard Dunn

Almost pulled off Richard

David Amos
David Amos
@DJ Redfern Methinks Gallant had many buddies collecting big paychecks, enjoying fine dinners and taking fancy trips etc for quite a while N'esy Pas?

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Richard Dunn
Oh but we do need an inquiry to hold those accountable and to make darned sure this never, ever happens again.








Shawn Tabor 
Bob Smith
The fact is, the bid was submitted figuring there were enough existing facilities to cover the games with minimal upgrades needed. Between that, and knowing Sherbrooke was going to be the main competitor, they lowballed the figures to give a good chance of winning. Once Gallant was re-elected, the real costs would be figured in for Dec. announcement and Gallant would be smiling as he announced it (flanked by Rogers and Melanson). Any fury/backlash would have been denounced as anti-french bigotry. That WAS the plan...but reality crashed in and now the blame game is on.


David Amos
David Amos 
@Bob Smith Methinks you forgot the fact that the Conservatives (They are PC in name only) knew about it all along N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/government-spent-thousands-bid-event-1.3529841

"Interim Progressive Conservative Opposition Leader Bruce Fitch has criticized the Liberals in the past for spending thousands on a networking dinner aimed at encouraging New Brunswickers to return home.

But Fitch says he sees a clearer return on investment in spending to win the right to host the Francophonie Games.

"The taxpayers, they'll deal with the respective politicians when it comes time to vote on whether they think that's a good investment or not," Fitch said."









Shawn Tabor 
André Bérubé
During an interview on Radio Canada in October 2018, Claude Laverdure, who was a personal representative of former prime minister Jean Chrétien's to the Francophonie was asked if the organization was a bastion of the French Language and democracy. Here is Mr. Laverdure's reply:
',,,If you tried to do 30-second interviews with each one of the leaders, you'd find that many of them don't speak French, and many of them could be considered as dictators.'

At a Francophon ie summit in Mauritius (another member of the organization), deletates were greeted with a giant banner in English only announcing: "Welcome Francophonie Delegates.'

I think that the New Brunswick government made the right decision; the province should also get out of the Francophonie..


David Amos
David Amos
@André Bérubé "the province should also get out of the Francophonie"

Methinks the Quebeckers don't like Jean Chrétien's and Trudeau The Elder's questionable charter either N'esy Pas?









Shawn Tabor 
David White

David Amos
David Amos
@David White Trust that I didn't









Shawn Tabor 
Paul Bourgoin
If all New Brunswickers were to stand up about Subsidies, Tax Breaks, Crown Land Wood, Energy, Electricity, Property Taxes to single out a few to those who bank their profits in off shore banks maybe we would have a better Financial Standing.


Bob Smith
Bob Smith
@Paul Bourgoin I would suggest you put aside the anti Irving talk and focus on the topic of the article...an event that spiraled out of control for costs and was cancelled due to the fact Gallant is no longer premier.

David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin YUP

David Amos
David Amos
@Bob Smith Methinks we all need to talk about the actions of the Irving Clan before we talk about who they control in our public offices N'esy Pas?









Mark (Junkman) George 
Mark (Junkman) George
Move along, nothing new to see here folks.............
Just the feds playing "duck and cover" in an election year.


David Amos
David Amos
@Mark (Junkman) George Methinks whereas I am gonna run again I should not miss a minute of the circus N'esy Pas?








Ray Bungay 
Ray Bungay
Something like this, Ottawa to NB, Don't sweat the small stuff, it is only small stuff, so we got your back Mr Premier (Mr Gallant)


David Amos
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David Amos
@Ray Bungay Who is Gallant to anyone now? Methinks Ottawa needs to watch its back now that the Conservatives and the NDP have their knives out and Jody's daddy is on the warpath again N'esy Pas?






Doug Leblanc 
Doug Leblanc
We are one country, but have three separate memberships (all paying full fees, so three times the cost), and a federal tax payer funded sport agency refuses to help anyone with budgets because NB and Quebec are competing, and apparently no francophone liberal in NB is competent to price such an event. Here’s an idea. Instead of getting Gallant’s buddies a job, they could have talked to the organizers of the FIGO games and hired some people with experience. Next step should be to cancel the NB membership and support the CANADIAN membership.


David Amos
David Amos
@Doug Leblanc Methinks the questions swirling around the former Justice Minister this week in Ottawa have caused the Feds to no longer care about the silly francophonie games practiced by SANB N'esy Pas?











Doug Leblanc 
Danny Saulnier
How does anyone actually think NB can afford to have these games ?? Don’t we have bigger and more important things to look after with this kind of money?? We don’t have the economics to do this now or in the future...


David Amos
David Amos
@Danny Saulnier True







$17-million bid for Francophonie Games lacked advice from Ottawa

Tourism deputy says original games bid was too low because Sport Canada didn't help committee


The organizing committee in Moncton could not take advantage of Sport Canada expertise in developing the bid to host the Francophonie Games. (AFP/Issouf Sanogo)


New Brunswick's initial low bid for the Francophonie Games was hobbled by Ottawa's decision to not provide advice and expertise, a senior civil servant told a committee of MLAs Friday.

Francoise Roy, the deputy minister at the Department of Tourism, Heritage and Culture, said Sport Canada would normally have been "at the table, helping to develop the bid" to host the 2021 games in Moncton and Dieppe.

But federal officials decided to stay out of it because New Brunswick was up against another Canadian bid, from Sherbrooke, Que.




"Because there were two Canadian communities bidding, Sport Canada recused themselves from this process," Roy told the legislature's public accounts committee.

"The organizing committee in Moncton didn't have the benefit of that expertise."

The result was the now-discredited $17 million bid that helped clinch the awarding of the international sport and cultural event for New Brunswick in April 2016.



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The Francophonie Games mess, explained
 The games have been cancelled. But what's the story behind the mess? 2:31

Last month, the Progressive Conservative government cancelled the province's plan to host the games, citing last year's forecast of the games costing $130 million, more than seven times the original estimate.

Premier Blaine Higgs announced the decision days after the organizing committee for the games offered the province a new, dramatically reduced cost estimate of $62 million.

Higgs said given the various figures that had been made public, he wasn't confident the revised number would stick.


Francoise Roy, the deputy minister of tourism, heritage and culture, said the bid committee asked for cost of previous games from the International Organization of La Francophonie. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Roy made her comments in response to questions from PC committee member Glen Savoie, the MLA for Saint John East, who called the subject "a tough one. It's sensitive."

Savoie said it was too bad that the province "missed a chance to have New Brunswick as the centre of the francophone universe during the time of the games," but the costs would be "difficult to rationalize" given the province's finances.

Roy's appearance was the first time since the issue flared up in December that a senior civil servant has given an account of the games timeline.
She said without expert help from Sport Canada, the local bid committee put together its submission by asking the International Organization of La Francophonie "if they had any numbers for costs for previous games."

That template led to the $17-million estimate, she said. Sherbrooke, which hosted the Canada Games in 2013 and which has a municipal office devoted to organizing sports events, bid $52 million.

Once New Brunswick won the games, Roy said, the bid committee was transformed into an organizing committee that developed the business plan. It submitted the plan, with the $130 million figure, to the province last spring.

In an interview with Brunswick News this week, former premier Brian Gallant complained that media reports had focused on the higher figure even though it was "just a submission" and was "never going to be the cost" because his government had refused the figure.


The Francophonie Games are the largest sporting and cultural event in the French-speaking world. (Hussein Malla/Associated Press)

But Roy told the committee Friday that a consultant hired by Sport Canada to evaluate the organizing committee's proposal said it was in the ballpark.

"The evaluation basically came back and said, 'Yeah, that's about right for this scale of international event,'" she said.

That report said the games could be mounted for $115 million, and even lower costs were possible if some elements were cut, Roy said. The report, obtained by Radio-Canada, also said a significantly lower cost would lower the quality of the event.
But she told the MLAs that the Francophonie also has a "very formal process" with clear requirements for "what you need to deliver on" when hosting the games.

"It's really quite unfortunate, but that was the process," she said.

Savoie used the discussion to send a message to francophones that despite the cancellation, the new PC government was sensitive to their language and culture.

"It's important for people to know that we value the francophone culture," he said, speaking in French.


Premier Blaine Higgs cancelled New Brunswick's plan to host the games because of an estimated $130 million price tag. (CBC)

During an earlier discussion about tourism sites, Savoie told Roy that his great-great-great-great-great grandfather built the Maison Savoie, which now stands at the Village Historique Acadien near Caraquet.

"I hope in the future we have the chance to show the heart and the spirit of the francophonie here in New Brunswick," he said.

Roy said Tourism, Heritage and Culture was not the lead department on the games. That was Intergovernmental Affairs, which hasn't appeared at the public accounts committee since the games controversy broke out.

She said her department hadn't spent any money on the games but had sent two employees to the 2017 Francophonie Games in Abidjan, Ivory Coast.


The last time the games were held in Canada was 2001. They cost Ottawa and Gatineau $32 million at the time. (Jim Young/Reuters)

Asked if she had a role in internal discussions about the games, she said her officials briefed the new PC government on the timeline of the bid, the costs and the potential spinoffs, including the impact on sport and cultural programs.

"It was a good opportunity to develop more of that capacity in the province," she said. But she added that the department's role was to advise the government and let elected officials make the decision.

Roy also told Liberal MLA Cathy Rogers that some of the funding that might have gone to the games could be shifted to other programs with that mandate.

"There are conversations about that right now," she said. "We're definitely having conversations about what we might do to support our sport and cultural industries in light of that decision."

About the Author

 


Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 


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@Robert Lloyd "And what if they said "fight your own battles".

Methinks we have Minister of Defense not a Minister of Attack but you should read paragraph 83 of my Statement of Claim against the Crown if you don't know that we helped the Yankees plan the War on Iraq in the summer of 2002. N'esy Pas? BTW How many WMDS were ever found?

Go Figure

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/weston-canada-offered-to-aid-iraq-invasion-wikileaks-1.1062501

Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@David Amos said "Methinks we have Minister of Defense not a Minister of Attack ..."

David, exactly, a Minister of Defense....and you defend with....deterrence or words or 'spit balls'?




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Methinks much to the Irving Clan's chagrin I should pick up the phone again and send a few more emails N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/lockheed-martin-to-partner-with-irving.html





https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/lockheed-martin-contract-shipbuilding-irving-1.5011032




Lockheed Martin to partner with Irving Shipbuilding on $185M ship design contract




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David Amos
David Amos
"The challenge will be heard in Federal Court and critics question how completely the bids were evaluated."

Methinks much to the Irving Clan's chagrin I should pick up the phone again and send a few more emails N'esy Pas?

Clarence Slydell
Clarence Slydell
@David Amos

Sic 'em Dave.








Rosco holt
Norman Albert Snr
I think we are being suckered into one of the longest and poorly set up contracts in Canadian history with no idea what we get for about %60B in end costs. Sucker born every day. Mean while Irving gets much richer off the tax payers.


David Amos
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr YUP

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Norman Albert Snr
It's nothing new.








Rosco holt 
daryl doucette
Why does Canada need " WAR" ships? We don't start wars, the americans do. No one is going to attack us with the USA right next door. Lets spend that money on health care and infrastructure to benefit ALL Canadians.


Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@daryl doucette said " No one is going to attack us with the USA right next door"

daryl, if we took that stance, how would the people of the USA feel about that? Or does it matter to you?

And what if they said "fight your own battles".

And you really need to reassess your thinking if you think no one will do harm to Canada with the USA next door. You might like to believe that however it is not very realistic.

Paul Bourgoin
Paul Bourgoin
@Robert Lloyd
Where do you come from?

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Robert Lloyd Who cares what the people of the USA think? What " battles"? We don't have " battles". The only reason the USA is attacked abroad is because they continuously meddle in other countries affairs and invade countries to control their oil and other resources. Canada does not do that. Watch and see what will happen soon with Venezuala..." Chavez" booted out the Americans ( Exxon) whom were stealing the oil wealth...either the americans will " invade" or the new guy will invite Exxon back in, which is probably what will happen.....stay tuned!

Chris McNee
Chris McNee
@daryl doucette Hi Darryl, I won’t bash you as like many other Canadians they aren’t aware of what the RCN (Navy) do. They assist our allies in foreign operations that battleships for a lack of a better are the only vessel for the job. They also serve off of our Canadian waters to help counter the drug and human trafficking issues. As far as no one attacking us, this is already happened in Ottawa at the war memorial and other isolated attacks. One could use similar logic of not buying a health plan or car insurance since no one plans on getting sick or having and accident. But to agree on our health care system improving is a good idea. Take Care

LucasMcCain
LucasMcCain
@daryl doucette: Daryl that is LIBERAL thinking...we are the 2nd largest landmass in the world with 37 million people ,in the top 5 for wealth and the longest coastline in the world....we have to protect it.China is growing and RUSSIA is trying get it's false past glory back at the expence of it's people...don't forget terrorism....We have a professional military,a world renowned legal system,our citizens for the most part are happy and have freedom of speech,..and we have growth ..thats worth protecting.

Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@daryl doucette What happens when US wants our oil and resources?

Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@Paul Bourgoin said "Where do you come from?"

Paul, I am a citizen of Nova Scotia, Canada. Trusting this is helpful.

Christopher Douglas Hyndman
Christopher Douglas Hyndman
@daryl doucette

1.Drug/Human smugglers use boats, some of them are armed.
2. Did you know we had to deploy armed frigates against Spanish fishing operations within our economic zone?
3. We have a huge supply of resources and fresh water with a relatively tiny population...wait and see what happens in the 20 year, you will be glad we have those ships because someone is going to say we don't need all of it and they are taking it.

Top of my head with no research...bet I could bury you in a tsunami of reasons if I hardly tried

Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@daryl doucette said "... oil and other resources. Canada does not do that."

daryl, that is exactly the point....as a Canadian, the cost of your petroleum products are as low as they are because of American foreign policy in this area.

Like it or not, that is the way it is.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Robert Lloyd "And what if they said "fight your own battles".

Methinks we have Minister of Defense not a Minister of Attack but you should read paragraph 83 of my Statement of Claim against the Crown if you don't know that we helped the Yankees plan the War on Iraq in the summer of 2002. N'esy Pas? BTW How many WMDS were ever found?

Go Figure

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/weston-canada-offered-to-aid-iraq-invasion-wikileaks-1.1062501

Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@David Amos said "Methinks we have Minister of Defense not a Minister of Attack ..."

David, exactly, a Minister of Defense....and you defend with....deterrence or words or 'spit balls'?

Robert Ross
Robert Ross
@daryl doucette

One important fact: the only rights you have are those you can afford to defend.

Protecting our democracy, rights, and way of life does come at a cost.

As well, since we are part of NATO (and other international organizations), we have obligations to protect and defend the rights of those who cannot defend their own.

What do you do? Say: "Stop, or I'll say stop again?". A shot across the bow usually comes across as "we mean it".

People need to get out of their 'bubble' and into the real world. Years of a cushy lifestyle have allowed our eyes to glaze over to the realities out there (and what is about to come).

Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@Robert Ross said "People need to get out of their 'bubble' and into the real world."

Robert, I have been trying to say that here but did not put it as clearly as you did.....well said!

David Peters
David Peters
@Robert Ross

That doesn't excuse the obvious lack of competition in the bidding process to build these ships...more competition is needed to ensure a good product at a fair price, delivered on-time.

More competition would provide protection to the taxpayer on many levels.









Rosco holt 
Mark Bishop
I have read comments about the poor and hungry, have too agree. The thing noone is considering how about the men and women being sent out on missions to protect this country and others. Do they not deserve to go out in something new and advanced. How about what happened when Canada purchased the used submarines? They were of no use to the British military and cost Canada a life, and injured other submariners. Our military deserves more.


Eric Plexe
Eric Plexe
@Mark Bishop - While the purchase of the submarines was a fiasco, they have now been operational for several years. What’s required now are plans to purchase their replacements.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadian-pre-owned-submarine-fleet-finally-ready-for-operations/article23236697/
http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/en/news-operations/news-media-submarine-fleet-status.page

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Mark Bishop We mostly go on " missions" to protect big oil interests.

Paul Bourgoin
Paul Bourgoin
@Mark Bishop
Where is that war you are Talking about?

David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin I had quite a holy war with Irving Shipbuilding's former General Counsel on January 11th, 2016 in Federal Court in Fredicton









David Peters
David Peters
Why buy 15 ships for $60 Billion when you could have bought 16 ships for less than $9 Billion?

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/india-to-sign-22-billion-deal-with-russia-for-four-warships-two-will-be-built-in-the-country

Massive wealth transfer.


Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@David Peters said "Why buy 15 ships for $60 Billion when you could have bought 16 ships for less than $9 Billion? "

David, somehow I did glean that from the article you posted.....from the article, it would appear such purchases, we would be buying these ships from India or Russia. Am I correct? If yes, why would we buy from either?

As far as 'wealth transfer' , you of all people should understand that a program of this magnitude would mean a massive transfer of CDN taxpayer $$$ to Canadians, not Russians or others.

What am I missing?

Paul Bourgoin
Paul Bourgoin
@Robert Lloyd
Where is your loyalty?

Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@Paul Bourgoin said "Where is your loyalty?"

Paul, to Canada.

Christopher Douglas Hyndman
Christopher Douglas Hyndman
@Paul Bourgoin Where's yours?

David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Lloyd Where was your smart phone or computer built?

Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@David Amos said "Where was your smart phone or computer built?"

David, both were assembled in Mexico....I am pretty sure the silica that made the computer chips were mined in the USA, maybe Tennessee or one of those states close to it.

David Peters
David Peters
@Robert Lloyd

Ten times more expensive to build ships here?

Looks like "loyalty" is being used as an excuse to rip off the Canadian taxpayer.


Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@David Peters said "Ten times more expensive to build ships here? "

David, please present your business case to substantiate "ten times more expensive"....if we simply buy offshore, to say as mentioned in the story, Russia or India.

Life is all about choices, right?

David Peters
David Peters
@Robert Lloyd

...from the lawsuit, it looks to me as though those with the capabilities to really cost it out feel as though there wasn't real competition in this case....which seems to be the case in nearly every sector, not just in ship building.

Imo, that's more of a threat to Canadian liberty and sovereignty than anything else.











Ross Morley 
Ross Morley
Well now, I guess Lockheed won't be so peeved about our rejecting the #failed F-35.


Barry Odonnell
Barry Odonnell
@Ross Morley Any agreement signed by the Trudeau government needs to be carefully scrutinized given the latest ethics allegations.

David Amos
David Amos
@Barry Odonnell I agree

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Barry Odonnell
Time has shown that any agreement at the federal level needs to be scrutinized no matter which party is in power.

Whether it's the Liberals or the Conservatives.











Rosco holt 
Mark Jones
Lockheed Martin is an organized criminal organization, nothing more.


Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Mark Jones
Lockheed Martin is in good company.

Benjamin Dover
Benjamin Dover
@Mark Jones
How so? What are they doing that is illegal?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Benjamin Dover, building tools to kill.

Robert Lloyd
Robert Lloyd
@Marguerite Deschamps said "....building tools to kill."

Marguerite, that is a personal opinion, not a legal opinion!

There is a distinction. Wouldn't you agree?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "building tools to kill."

Methinks they are built for defense so that folks won't get killed N'esy Pas?




Lockheed Martin to partner with Irving Shipbuilding on $185M ship design contract

15 Canadian warships to be built at Halifax shipyard beginning in 2023


Jim Irving, co-CEO of JD Irving Ltd., said Irving Shipbuilding is eager to begin construction of the new warships. This design work is expected to take 3-4 years to complete with construction set to begin in the early 2020s. (CBC)

The announcement was short and sweet Friday morning.

Public Services and Procurement Minister Carla Qualtrough announced the federal government has awarded a $185-million shipbuilding design contract for the next 15 Canadian warships to Lockheed Martin Canada.

This design work is expected to take up to four years to complete. The ships are to be constructed at the Irving shipyard in Halifax, beginning in 2023.

Jim Irving, co-CEO of JD Irving Ltd., said he told the minister in advance to keep the speeches short.
"It's almost 9 o'clock on Friday, and we haven't done a lick of work yet. I know what it costs per minute to pay for this place," he said.


Irving Shipbuilding workers listen to Friday's announcement. (CBC)
"But you're worth it," he told workers who were gathered for the announcement.
"This is much more than a job, it's a commitment."

The Friday morning announcement was a formalization of the long-awaited design contract — the kickoff to a $60-billion project to produce 15 warships to replace the navy's frontline frigates over the next decade and a half.

All of the paperwork for the design contract was signed in Ottawa on Thursday between the Liberal government, Lockheed Martin Canada, BAE Systems, Inc., and Irving Shipbuilding, the prime contractor.


The ships will replace the Halifax-class frigates and the retired Iroquois-class destroyers. (CBC)
The decision to award the contract to the Lockheed Martin-led team is not without controversy, however.

It is the subject of a legal challenge by one of the other companies in the competition — Alion Science and Technology Corporation — and subsidiary Alion Canada.

A third team, led by the Spanish company Navantia, also submitted a bid but has not challenged the decision.

The challenge will be heard in Federal Court and critics question how completely the bids were evaluated.

Neither losing bidder was told precisely what was wrong with their bids, but they can expect to be briefed now that the contract has been signed, say defence industry sources.

With files from Murray Brewster


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David Amos
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David Amos
Trust that Mr Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that it irritated me bigtime when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?

Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" N'esy Pas?



David Amos
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David Amos 
Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No." in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harper's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to info found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015

Everybody knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?






Joeseph A. Verage
Joeseph A. Verage
Trudeau is in troubled waters. So is Canada with the Liberals at the helm.


ron snell
ron snell
@Joeseph A. Verage Why is Mr. Scheer helping Trudeau out again, by giving more instruction on what to do, instead of just letting Trudeau Flounder.

Earl Higgins
Earl Higgins
@Joeseph A. Verage
My there are a lot of conservatives waiting in the wings to comment on anything the liberals do and I'm not a liberal supporter.
We intuitively know the conservatives would have acted no differently faced with the possible bankruptcy of one of Canda's sweethearts. We know that from past experience
of the conservatives who place corporations first. And after their time in office, they go to work for them, same as the liberals.
So this is not about conservatives and liberals, this is about changing laws to hold CEOs and top managers responsible. This is about preventing top politicians from doing any lobbying for at least 5 years after they have served in office. This is about real accountability and real justice.

JAMES LINDSAY
JAMES LINDSAY
@Joeseph A. Verage
Scheer can expose it all when he is elected but If he wants seats in Quebec he's going to have to learn to play the game. Attacking major employers such as SNC-Lavelin and Bombardier isn't going to help.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@JAMES LINDSAY

SNC going bankrupt will cause 10,000 canadians to lose their jobs which is what conservatives really want.

Wilson neglected her job by refusing remediation agreement.

Canada gains nothing by charging a corporation criminally, the executives were the guilty ones and should be charged not innocent workers and investors.

Munroe Kelly
Munroe Kelly
@Troy Mann
Wilson was not employment minister, she was the justice minister. Job creation is not her mandate, justice is.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Munroe Kelly

Remediation agreements are the law in Canada

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@ron snell Perhaps because Scheer has some integrity and actually cares about due process and the rule of law?!!... Just sayin'.

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Earl Higgins This is about the PMO's office attempting to influence a matter actively before the courts. This is about the PMO's office attempting to obstruct Justice. This is about the PMO's office potentially being engaged in violations of the Criminal Code Of Canada. A number of Judges, both active and retied have stated there is a REAL concern that a criminal act has taken place and NEEDS to be investigated by the RCMP.

Molly Earl
Molly Earl
@Joeseph A. Verage without a name other than anonymous this story will eventually fizzle out.

Molly Earl
Molly Earl
@Allen Quisnel how? Without an actual name to go to with who do you talk to.

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Troy Mann Remediation became the law in Canada as a result of intense SNC Lavalin lobbying and pressure on the government. The applicable law was buried in Bill C74 which was an Omnibus Bill entitled The Budget Implimentation Act 2018, tabled by Morneau, NOT the Attorney General. In committee, members of ALL parties argued against it. It still became law on the direction of the Prime Minister in a majority vote, passing 3rd reading on June 6, 2018. SNC Lavalin was already under prosecution

Fiona Lang
Fiona Lang
@Troy Mann No real Canadian wants others to lose their jobs. Except for people watching the resource sector in Alberta tank, all due to the stranglehold of regulations the LPC has passed. And the companies going under in Alberta were not guilty of the crimes SNC-Lavalin has committed.

Darren MacDonald
Darren MacDonald
@Joeseph A. Verage From Warren K, "Their mistake was in treating the Attorney General like she was some other Minister. Huge mistake. The AG is a prosecutor as well as a Minister. Pressuring a prosecutor to help out a friend facing a criminal prosecution IS a crime. They are in deep "edit""

Fiona Lang
Fiona Lang
@Troy Mann Brought in a very sleazy manner, no debate just snuck into a budget Omnibill sandwich. Even some Liberals were surprised!

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Allen Quisnel

Remediation laws are common in EU and US as they protect innocent workers and investors.

Companies act based on executive decisions and they should be held accountable not innocent canadian workers and retired investors.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Fiona Lang

It is not hard to understand Fionna, companies are unable to break laws with out actions of their executives. Holding innocent workers and investors responsible is irresponsible.

Your opinion on Alberta is flawed, you bring it up to justify your hatred for all things Quebec even though SNC employs people across Canada.

James Rielly
James Rielly
@Troy Mann There's political blood in the water,Sheers a political shark and hay must be made while the sun shines.

John Conrad
John Conrad
@Troy Mann
This implies that SNC Lavalin's strategy might include using its Canadian employees as hostages.
If such is found to be the case, it will probably not sit at all well with some of the judges.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@John Conrad

If SNC is prosecuted they will go bankrupt and 10000 canadians all highly paid will lose their jobs for no reason. Other Canadian companies will leave Canada due to investor demands to be protected from government prosecutions.

The guilty people are the executives who should be and are being held accountable, not the innocent Canadian workers and retired investors.

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Troy Mann This isn't about Remediation laws... it IS about the PMO trying to influence Judicial proceedings. One is a law.... the other is corruption and a criminal code violation.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Allen Quisnel

The PM has every right and a duty to talk to the Minister of justice.

Darren MacDonald
Darren MacDonald
@Troy Mann Not to influence a court case

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Troy Mann Absolutely. He also has every right to be charged for obstruction of justice if he attempts to pressure an intervention in an ongoing court case.

Len Boufford
Len Boufford
@Troy Mann
This discussion isn't about the merits of Remediation Laws. Quite often they are the best solution.
This is about political interference into the judicial system by the PMO office, which is ILLEGAL!

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Len Boufford

The Prime Minister not only has the right but has the obligation to talk to his Minister of justice and to protect innocent Canadian jobs and retired investors

Steve Taylor
Steve Taylor
@Joeseph A. Verage

Problem is that in the modern era of transnational monopolies, SNC is often Canada's only choice...

What is the "confluence of public and private power" defined as again?

John VanHaverbeke
John VanHaverbeke
@Joeseph A. Verage Problem for you is Andy won't win the next election!

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Darren MacDonald "Not to influence a court case"

He clearly didnt as the case is still proceeding.
He has every right and obligation to talk to Minister of justice and provide an options such as deferred prosecution agreement which are legal and used by the US and EU.
He has every right to appoint and remove the Minister of justice at his whim.

He has done nothing illegal in fact I'd say he was obligated to discuss the remediation options in order to protect Canadian jobs, the innocent canadians who work those jobs and retired Canadian investors.

Wilson failed to follow the law and direct prosecution to offer remedial agree.ent as an option or even investigating if they are an option. Wilson as Attorney General has the legal means to direct prosecution to remedial enforcement over criminal.

Look at the facts and you will see.

André Carrel
André Carrel
@Joeseph A. Verage
Canada is not in troubled waters, the rule of law is.
If solicitor-client privilege is meant to signal that a person has something to hide, then by definition respecting solicitor-client privilege is an admission of guilt.
You are leading us down an dangerous path Mr. Scheer.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@André Carrel

Guilt till you prove your innocence is the new conservative slogan.

Not sure if most will appreciate giving someone power who believes that like Sheer.

Charly Vaughan
Charly Vaughan
@Joeseph A. Verage if SNC Lavelin just shuts down in Canada problem gone...and they can still handout brown envelopes to buy work

Phil Mein
Phil Mein
@Troy Mann You've had a long shift today, you must be exhausted. LOL

Len Evans
Len Evans
@Joeseph A. Verage
Balderdash. Folks often have such short memories... Do you not remember the previous government Scheer was part of? I don't support many of Trudeau's decisions, but with Scheer at the helm of the Conservatives, there is little to no choice but to vote Liberal again. Scheer sends a letter now & uses the CBC to attack the Liberals, yet he and the rest of the Harper Conservatives wouldn't even accept open questions or have communication with the media when they were in office. They wanted everything in advance & screened persons and questions before any press conference. That crew should have been flushed away long ago, but we are still knee deep in what they left behind.

JAMES LINDSAY
JAMES LINDSAY
@Len Evans So true.

Stanley Baird
Stanley Baird
@Joeseph A. Verage another Liberal Quebec corruption scandal.

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann "Look at the facts and you will see."

Trust that Mr Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that it irritated me bigtime when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?

Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos 
@Troy Mann "The PM has every right and a duty to talk to the Minister of justice."

Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No." in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harpe's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to ino found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015

Everybody knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?


david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Its quite comical to watch these conservatives try to skewer the liberals for the same kind of government corruption they were accused of when in power.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

God even the thought of another four years of a conservative government in power forces me into a fetal position.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Liberals are ripe for defeat to bad there isnt a viable competent opposition to challenge them.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Do these conservatives really think Canadians are willing to go back to the conservative days of denial of science and climate change and 100 billion dollar F35 fighter plane purchaes that'll backrupt the country.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Trudeau might not have had a stellar first term, but the opposition are so bad, he deserves another term by default.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

CBC has been playing loops of Peter Mackay elevating him to a position of political distinction which is not deserved.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Trudeau may not be perfect , but at least he's not a conservative.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Why does Andrew Scheer alway look like a high school monitor trying to win a debate.

mo bennett
mo bennett
@Joeseph A. Verage and will be in worse trouble with mini steve at the helm. don't be eatin' any stupid pills on 10.21! vote green, sleep at night.

Gorden Feist
Gorden Feist
@Joeseph A. Verage
The only thing worse than a Liberal government is a Conservative government.

mo bennett
mo bennett
@Joeseph A. Verage maybe he can buy a bridge off of simon and garfunkel.

James Holden
James Holden
@Allen Quisnel

Where is any evidence of Scheer having integrity?

David Novak
David Novak
@Joeseph A. Verage - Funny you would think that. Unemployment is at a 40 year low and the public debt is growing slower than the economy is growing.

Those are not troubled waters. Why would you say what you said, then?

Matt Thuaii
Matt Thuaii
@Joeseph A. Verage

It’s hard to believe how ungrateful Canadians are toward conservative governments after everything they’ve done for the country.

Trudeau is such an embarrassment we should make Scheer PM without an election like in Venezuela after they got tired of too much socialism.

Ryan Tulson
Ryan Tulson
@David Novak Look at all your likes!

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Thuaii "Trudeau is such an embarrassment we should make Scheer PM without an election like in Venezuela after they got tired of too much socialism."

Oh My My

David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett "maybe he can buy a bridge off of simon and garfunkel."

YO MO Methinks Mr Harper has a few bridges he would like to sell on behalf of his buddies south of the 49th N'esy Pas?

David Amos
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David Amos
@James Holden "Where is any evidence of Scheer having integrity?"

Or the lack thereof?

Methinks you should scroll up through this particular comment section before it goes "Poof" N'esy Pas?

mo bennett
mo bennett
@David Amos ya, but he doesn't have a grammy, or Mrs. Robinson!!

David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett Methinks he is still Right Honourable though N'esy Pas?

Matt Thuaii
Matt Thuaii
@David Amos

Pas...

Tres pas, in fact.

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Thuaii Methinks I already said anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No." in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett "will be in worse trouble with mini steve at the helm. don't be eatin' any stupid pills on 10.21! vote green, sleep at night."

Methinks a lot of folks will toss in their sleep worrying about the fact that Dizzy Lizzy May may drink too much before important meetings or giving speeches However we can always rely on our ethical "Press Gallery" to keep us properly informed N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3068674


Matt Parks
Matt Parks
The real questions is: how is the CBC reporting on a Trudeau scandal? According to a lot of conservatives, they're just the Liberal Government's propaganda wing..... It's almost like, maybe the CBC is actually a credible source of information on Canadian politics and will report on scandals, regardless of which party is involved.... Maybe, just maybe, everything isn't a conspiracy.....

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Blogger Daryll Mcbain said
Quote "Harper was despicable and by far worse than the present Government in every way."
And I'll second that.

Matt Parks
Matt Parks
@David Amos: No way, according to a lot of commenters on this very site, the CBC is controlled exclusively by the Liberal party and would never publish anything that could hurt them....


david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

So if youre a conservative you must be very confused, ecactly who should you vote for because supposedly now you have two leaders, Maxim Bernier and Andrew Scheer.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Conservatives cant even pull their own party together so why should we trust them when they say they want to unite Canada.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Conservative are in disarray, certainly not the people we want Canada with.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

A divided conservative party will unite Canada, give me some more malarky .

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Conservatives have FAILED Canadians, at a time Canada needs a strong united rational coherent opposition all the conservatives offer is a party in disarray pumping out the old Stephen Harper agenda of denying science and the number one threat to our planet, climate change.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Don't believe conservatives are a danger to our social programs that define us as NOT a cruel uncaring society like the Americans, just watch what the suits behind Doug Ford intend to do to Ontario.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Joeseph A. Verage

Andrew Scheer we'd respect you more if you could control your own party.

JAMES LINDSAY
JAMES LINDSAY
@JAMES LINDSAY Just read this morning that Mr. Scheer met with SNC, I wish I was a fly on the wall. Just saying.............

Matt Thuaii
Matt Thuaii
@David Amos

Sorry I assume every link I see on the internet is a computer virus (even if there is no link)

Therefore either explain the reference or doom me to continue living in a world of blissful ignorance

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Thuaii Methinks you were doomed out of the gate N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Parks "the CBC is controlled exclusively by the Liberal party and would never publish anything that could hurt them"

Methinks even mindless Harper 2.0 knows that N'esy Pas?

For instance did I run in the election of the 42nd Parliament or did I not?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276


David Amos
David Amos
@James Holden "Where is any evidence of Scheer having integrity?"

Or the lack thereof?

Methinks you should scroll up through this thread N'esy Pas?


Peter Samson
Peter Samson
@Earl Higgins Wow, you're making some aggressive assumptions there Earl. For one there's a big difference between placing "corporations first" as you allege the Conservatives do and doing something illegal to aid a corporation. Assuming the conservatives would do the same thing is completely unjustified and really besides the point. And this isn't about waiting in the wings for "anything the liberals do", this allegation is that the PM or at least the PMO illegally pressured the AG to step in- that's a bit different than a standard slip up, it's against the law. And as mentioned in the article when confronted with a similar situation with Mike Duffy the conservatives waived privilege to allow the AG to speak. Will the Liberals do the same? That's the only question that matters, and if not, then why not?

Peter Samson
Peter Samson @Troy Mann "SNC going bankrupt will cause 10,000 canadians to lose their jobs which is what conservatives really want.

Wilson neglected her job by refusing remediation agreement.

Canada gains nothing by charging a corporation criminally, the executives were the guilty ones and should be charged not innocent workers and investors."

This is the best hot take you've had in a while Troy. Let me see if I can summarize.... The PMO may have acted illegally but it was the right choice. Conservatives are anti business (that's a new one). And even if SNC acted illegally it's fine because it was in the best interests of Canada....

Did I get that right Troy? And when are you running for public office? You've got yourself a heck of a platform there.


David Amos
David Amos
@Peter Samson "Wow, you're making some aggressive assumptions there Earl. For one there's a big difference between placing "corporations first" as you allege the Conservatives do and doing something illegal to aid a corporation."

Methinks you obviously don't know that Canada IS a corporation that files with the Yankee SEC which is now overseen by Harper's pal "The Donald" N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Peter Samson Go Figure

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-white-house-west-wing-1.4731144

Stephen Harper spotted leaving the White House's West Wing

Former prime minister was expected to meet with 2 top Trump advisers
Catharine Tunney · CBC News · Posted: Jul 02, 2018 3:23 PM ET

David Amos
David Amos
@Peter Samson "Did I get that right Troy? And when are you running for public office? You've got yourself a heck of a platform there"

Methinks Troy and everybody else knows why I will be running for public office at least one more time this year N'esy Pas?



Peter Samson
Peter Samson
@Troy Mann It seems to me that your argument is that companies should be protected from prosecution because prosecution hurts the innocent workers. I'm not trying to mischaracterize your arguments so please clarify if I have it wrong. The natural follow up is at what point would it be okay to prosecute a company? I mean, SNC was allegedly involved in massive bribe and fraud but that's apparently not enough. What if they hired mercenaries to murder people, would that be enough? At what point does prosecution become an option given that it will always affect the innocent workers?

mo bennett
mo bennett
@Matt Thuaii not even close! he means messy paws.

Peter Samson
Peter Samson
@Troy Mann "Guilt till you prove your innocence is the new conservative slogan.

Not sure if most will appreciate giving someone power who believes that like Sheer."

Man, you're just full of hot takes today. Scheer isn't calling for the PM to be prosecuted, he's asking him to waive privilege so we can find out what happened. If the PM did nothing wrong then there shouldn't be an issue. And in fact we have precedent with other PMs doing the same thing. No one's suggesting that guilt or innocence has been determined, we'd just like to find out what actually happened and it's really easy for the PM to allow that.

David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett "not even close! he means messy paws."

YO MO even you know that is not true

Methinks anyone who hangs his hat around the Bay of Fundy such as the lawyers Rob Moore, Dominic Leblanc, Frank McKenna, Brian Gallant Robert Goguen and particularly Blaine Higgs, Bill Oliver, Robert Gauvin, Dominic Cardy Bruce Northrup, Abe Leblanc and their buddies Chucky Leblanc and Marshall Button know N'esy Pas means "Is it not so" in the Chiac lingo EH?













Troy Mann
Chuck Martens
Even Canadian liberals deserve the truth here


Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Chuck Martens

Remediation agreements are found throughout our allies.
Remediation agreements legislation was supported by conservatives

The Prime Minister has every right to discuss any on going case with the Minister of Justice.

Why she didnt use remediation agreement is beyond neglect of duty and puts not only 10,000 plus canadians jobs at risk it put 50,000 world wide at risk including investors all who did absolutely nothing wrong.

She should have been fired for it doing her job which is protecting innocent canadians and their jobs.

If SNC, a corporate entity is found guilty because of directions from now fired executives they will go bankrupt and Canada will not only lose one of the biggest engineering firms in the world, other corporations will not look upon Canada as a place to set up headquarters or do business. 10,000 highly skilled people will be laid off, investors including retirees will lose money because the Minister of justice did not do her job.

Peter Manchak
Peter Manchak
@Troy Mann So if they are bought out(?) we should be as well?

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Peter Manchak

If SNC is found guilty they will be unable to bid on jobs, their stock will fall to nothing and 10,000 plus highly skilled canadians will lose their jobs.

Daryll Mcbain
Daryll Mcbain
@Troy Mann maybe should bend some rules for the oil sands as well then? More jobs have been lost.

Steve Prior
Steve Prior
@Troy Mann

Once again complete nonsense SNC has less than 9,000 employees in Canada as of January 2018 according to their own web site. Do you another more reliable source than the company themselves?

http://www.snclavalin.com/en/canada

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Daryll Mcbain

Remediation agreements are the law in Canada, no rules being bent.

Alex Keith
Alex Keith
@Troy Mann
You neglected to mention any legal ramifications.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Steve Prior

They employ canadians around the world and the numbers rises and falls with contracts.

I said 10,000 plus and you say 9000, guess you dont care about 9000 highly skilled canadian jobs.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Alex Keith

For what?
Remediation agreements are legal
Forcing SNC to go bankrupt causing massive job losses is not affective.

Steve Prior
Steve Prior
@Troy Mann

Yes I am concerned about 9,000 jobs but funnily enough I am concerned with a little thing called the truth.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Steve Prior

The truth the Prime Minister discussed using a legal remediation agreement with his Minister of justice?

Do you expect no discussions between the two?

Steve Prior
Steve Prior
@Troy Mann Nice attempt at deflection but I am referring to your use of incorrect data as you well know.

Arthur Gill
Arthur Gill
@Troy Mann
"Remediation agreements legislation was supported by conservatives "

No it wasn't. It was hidden in a budget bill last september which the conservatives voted against.

Fiona Lang
Fiona Lang
@Arthur Gill Exactly! There was no discussion, no debate, and many did not even realize this Remediation Agreement legislation was being introduced. Think it was intended for SNC-Lavalin not any other Canadian Corporations, they did not need this protection.

Steve Prior
Steve Prior
@Arthur Gill

He is a little fast a loose with the truth.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Fiona Lang

Remediation laws are consistent with our allies. Not utilizing them cause companies to leave Canada to protect investors.

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Troy Mann Your moral and ethical compass then is, "The end justifies the means"...no matter what... hey... we can fix this... yeah...NO!!!

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Troy Mann You must have a LOT invested in this company you are fighting so hard to justify it's corruption. afraid you won't be able to retire?

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Chuck Martens They can't handle the truth.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Allen Quisnel

Supporting Canadian jobs and retired investors is something I will always do. 10,000 innocent Canadian workers and numerous retired Canadian investors need protection and that is through deferred prosecution agreements which are 100% legal and everyone of our allies use.

Canadian companies will flock out of Canada because of Wilson's refusal to follow the law.

Richard Sharp
Richard Sharp
@Chuck Martens

You have the truth. There was nothing untoward about government officials discussing legal obligations and alternatives. Too funny coming from the Cons, which treated the Minister of Justice like just another pleb a hundred times.

BobbyTaylor
BobbyTaylor
@Richard Sharp - the truth from the mouth of Justin!! That would certainly be a change. And all women should be believed, except the lady in Creston.

Charlie Wood
Charlie Wood
@Richard Sharp

The truth and Trudeau are mutually exclusive.

Charlie Wood
Charlie Wood
@Richard Sharp

The waive the client privilege, doing anything else is admitting guilt. Even the Trudeau apologists must realize that.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Charlie Wood

Prove your innocence is now the conservatives slogan?

Charlie Wood
Charlie Wood
@Troy Mann

No defend your guilt is the new Liberal slogan. The Prime Minister is the only PM in Canadian history found guilty of conflict of interest, not once, not twice but three times.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Charlie Wood

Guilty by accusations from an anonymous source till you prove your innocence.

That is what you are saying

Charlie Wood
Charlie Wood
@Troy Mann

Not at all, I am saying that Trudeau has nothing to lose by waiving solicitor client privilege, if he is innocent.

Charlie Wood
Charlie Wood
@Troy Mann

Trudeau also is the only PM in Canadian history found guilty of conflict of interest, not once, not twice but three times. Do you defend that guilt.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Chuck Martens

' Much Ado About Nothing '

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Chuck Martens

To believe Justin Trudeau would put himself in criminal jeopardy and mortally wound the liberal party of Canada you'd have to believe in Santa and tooth fairies.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Chuck Martens

Trudeau will take a page from the conservatives and stonewall the accusations.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Chuck Martens

Righteous conservatives whose last government had a third of its Senators under criminal investigation.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Chuck Martens

Thank god for two things, our healthcare and our CBC , both which the conservatives want to end.

David Fletcher
David Fletcher
@Charlie Wood

You're a bit off. It was only once, The conflict of interest guidelines only came into effect in 2006 so to say in history is a bit ridiculous. It was also a vacation that I, like most Canadians, really don't care about.

I also don't care about "elbowgate".

I do care that an attorney general may have been politically pressured by the PMO. If true, it is very serious and will lose the Liberals my vote in the next election.

There is no need to run silly ideologically driven narratives when the real issue is far more important.

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@Richard Sharp Not coming from the 'Cons'. Coming from Canadians. You have absolutely no way of knowing what actually took place.

Charlie Wood
Charlie Wood
@David Fletcher

You need to take another look, Trudeau was found guilty of three counts of conflict of interest by the Ethics Commissioner. I believe most Canadians do care that our Prime Minister is abusing privilege by spending taxpayer dollars for his friends and family junkets. I believe most Canadians are offended by the governments sense of entitlement.

There may well be more important issues than the accountability of the PM but that does not mean we should ignore the transgressions.

David Amos
David Amos
@Chuck Martens "Even Canadian liberals deserve the truth here"

I wholeheartedly Agree Sir


David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Sharp "You have the truth. There was nothing untoward about government officials discussing legal obligations and alternatives."

You and I spoke the truth of many things over the phone years ago and yet to this very day you have yet to reply to any of my responses to your opinions as I watch our comments melt from the record day after day.

Methinks I have every right to say that you can't handle the truth N'esy Pas?


david mccaig
david mccaig
@Chuck Martens

And where are the NDP under Mr Jagmeet Singh, nowhere, the party has nationally disappeared.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Chuck Martens

Where is the NDP party that FORCED the liberals to give us our government healthcare?

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Chuck Martens

Where are the NDP under Jagmeet Singh, the party that gave us great compassionate Canadians like Tommy Douglas, David Lewis, Ed Broadbent, Jack Layton?

William Thompson Jr.
William Thompson Jr.
@Chuck Martens
Do they want the truth is the question.

William Thompson Jr.
William Thompson Jr.
@Steve Prior
Whatever they feel it takes to discredit, facts not important.

David Amos
David Amos
@William Thompson Jr. "Do they want the truth is the question."

Methinks you should ask your friends in the FBI N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@William Thompson Jr. "Whatever they feel it takes to discredit, facts not important."

Methinks that is the rule you follow N'esy Pas?











vince talbot
Abe Marshall
The silence from the JT and the Liberals speaks volumes...


vince talbot
vince talbot
@Abe Marshall

Theyre aiting for Butts to come up with a reply

Jeff Smith
Jeff Smith
@vince talbot

He’s probably panicking. This was probably done all under his direction (as are most things by the Trudeau and/or the PMO. He’s also recorded meeting with the company many times over this.

His personal popularity and it’s associated protection isn’t nearly the Samar as Trudeau’s, he likely won’t be able to avoid jail time if a criminal case is opened.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Jeff Smith

Wow such blatant false liable statements being allowed

Rick Poulter
Rick Poulter
@Abe Marshall
Actually, silence from the political class should be the norm here as the case is before the courts. Anything said by Trudeau or Wilson-Raybould would be detrimental to the rule of law.
The cabinet discussing this case is good government because if SNC-Lavalin is found guilty, they cannot bid on any Canadian projects for 10 years. They are the largest Canadian engineering firm and they employ a 50,000 people world wide.
Settlements, ie pleading guilty with an arranged punishment, is part and parcel of the Canadian justice system and common through out the world.

James Holden
James Holden
@Abe Marshall

The Conservatives would never waive the client privilege if the positions were reversed.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Abe Marshall

Political flip flop, remember when the conservatives were in power and RCMP's investigation of Nigel Wright and Mike Duffy .

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Abe Marshall

Do conservatives think these charges against Trudeau will reach the level of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's former parliamentary secretary Dean Del Mastro was found guilty of election fraud and jailed

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Abe Marshall

Pompous conservatives trying to make hay out of husks.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Abe Marshall

If you're a conservative who are you supposed to vote for, the party is split they can't even get along with each other.

David Novak
David Novak
@Abe Marshall - He has not been silent. Why do you say this?

David Amos
David Amos
@Abe Marshall "The silence from the JT and the Liberals speaks volumes..."

Oh So True



William Thompson Jr.
William Thompson Jr.
@Abe Marshall
More volumes than Britannica!









Steven Scott
Robert Smythe
I will be voting for the Conservatives in the fall.

The police should be brought in to investigate this LPC scandal.

Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@Robert Smythe
with the same results as last time or worse .....

Alex Matheson
Alex Matheson
@Robert Smythe
Like the Duffy scandal perhaps. The cops did nothing there either. Lib/Con/Lib. There is no difference really.

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Alex Matheson Duffy, investigated, charged, to court, NOT GUILTY.... facts please... ALL of them....

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Allen Quisnel

Only conservatives believe Duff lived in an non insulatiled cottage but yet instantly believe an anonymous source

James Holden
James Holden
@Robert Smythe

I will never vote for the Reform/Conservatives.
They showed Canadians what they are the last time they were in power and there are many convictions to highlight it.

Doug Gray
Doug Gray
@Troy Mann
Not for long.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Robert Smythe

I have to admit Trudeau has made some pretty bad decisions, but sadly the conservatives are so politically dangerous to our social programs, Canadians will reelect him.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Robert Smythe

As much as Trudeau really needs to be politically spanked for all his blunders, the electorate have such a fear of another Doug Ford in power, they'll in defence hold their nose and re-elect him.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Robert Smythe

Elect conservatives? We gave them 9 years to try and get their act together, they didn't and we fired them.

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
@James Holden Blind partisanship serves no one.

Karen King
Karen King
@Robert Smythe

Beware of wee Andy....

David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Smythe "The police should be brought in to investigate this LPC scandal."

True However who will investigate the police after they fail to do their job?

David Amos
David Amos
@Karen King "Beware of wee Andy...."

Methinks the same should be said to Andy of me N'esy Pas?

David Allan
David Allan
@Robert Smythe

You're going to vote for the party that brokered back-room amnesty because a different party engages in back-room deals?

Cognitive dissonance.

David Allan
David Allan
@Allen Quisnel
"Duffy, investigated, charged, to court, NOT GUILTY.... facts please... ALL of them...."

The actions of Harper's staff got a colourful condemnation from the bench. "'Could Hollywood match their creativity?" the judge asked. "It is interesting that no one suggested doing the legal thing."

You seem to only want the facts that fit your confirmation bias.

leonard g MacAulay
leonard g MacAulay
@david mccaig
The PPC is looking better every day.


William Thompson Jr.
William Thompson Jr.
@leonard g MacAulay
To who? Noooobody!

Stanley Baird
Stanley Baird
@Robert Smythe yep, they couldn't even get through one term without another big Quebec scandal. Firing the Justice Minister for pushing back on judicial interference by the PMO for SNC ( a Quebec company that contributes loads of cash to the Liberal Party) - hard to imagine what the PM was thinking or why he thought this would not be an issue.

David Amos
David Amos
@leonard g MacAulay "The PPC is looking better every day."

Sad but True

David Amos
David Amos
@William Thompson Jr. "To who? Noooobody!"

Methinks I am not nobody and that you are not just anybody. Trust I am making it my business to know you better since you claimed that you knew the FBI are watching me N'esy Pas?



Frank Cow
Frank Cow
@Robert Smythe | Se quick to forget the dark ages of the Harper Government

Rick Wier
Rick Wier
@Robert Smythe you were voting conservative anyway, I will be voting liberal because they are providing good progressive government that works for Canadians and are focused on improving the lives of all Canadians, not just the one percent which is the conservative plan

Kham Hammerschmam
Kham Hammerschmam
@David Amos

Dude. Please get help.










Troy Mann
Roger devry
Regardless of one's political stripe this should be addressed through full disclosure by the government of the day.


Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Roger devry

Wilson needs to explain why she neglected her job by refusing remediation agreement putting 10,000 skilled Canadian jobs at risk.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Fiona Lang

I dont and it isn't weak at all, why do you want innocent canadians to lose their jobs? Why do you want innocent retired investors to lose their retirement savings? Why do you want Canadian companies to leave Canada to protect investors?

Tyler Brown
Tyler Brown
@Troy Mann
Most likely because she's incompetent. This is what happens when your hiring practices are not based on merit.

Jay michael
Jay michael
@Troy Mann There is no such thing as an "innocent" Canadian worker.

We are all apart of the same hypocrisy.

If you dance with the devil...

William Wilder
William Wilder
@Troy Mann No Troy, your agrument is weak no matter what you say. LOL!

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Roger devry

You'd think common sense would dictate that if the conservatives were wise enough to offer a reasonable alternative to the voters,they'd be back in power, but they can't and they won't.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Roger devry

The world is in a ecological meltdown and these conservatives want Canada to do Canadians what the Americans have done to themselves, elect a conservative.

David Amos
David Amos
@Roger devry "Regardless of one's political stripe this should be addressed through full disclosure by the government of the day."

Methinks it would be if we truly had a "Just Democracy" N'esy Pas?



Rick Wier
Rick Wier
@Roger devry the government has answered the questions and their is no scandel except in the minds of conservatives, but then you thught losing the last election was scandelous











Bert Law 
Bert Law
There seems to be two Rules of Law in this country.

One for Canadians.

One for liberals.

And yes they appear to be two vastly different things...


Earl Higgins
Earl Higgins
@Bert Law
There does seem to be 'two rules' in this country.
One for privilege.
One for the rest of Canadians.

donald fraser
donald fraser
@Earl Higgins that was basically always the case

Kelly Nelson
Kelly Nelson
@donald fraser Why do we accept it though?

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Bert Law

The world is on the verge of ecological catastrophe, elect science and climate denying conservatives and were all goners
.
david mccaig
david mccaig
@Bert Law

Conservatives in the states say theres no worry about climate change, God will save us.

David Amos
David Amos
@Bert Law "There seems to be two Rules of Law in this country. "

Methinks you are close but no cigar when you point at just the liberals. I know for a fact the Rules of Laws don't apply to the politicians who create the laws no matter what party they belong to. However their laws are used on a daily basis everywhere in Canada to abuse the folks whom they purportedly protect an serve N'esy Pas?



William Thompson Jr.
William Thompson Jr.
@Bert Law
Liberals operate under what they feel the law should be.











michael shay 
michael shay
Over $100,000 in illegal donations from SNC to the Liberals. Trudeau knows who his boss is.


vince talbot
vince talbot
@michael shay

Yeah....Butts

Francis Culligan
Francis Culligan
@michael shay Corps donating to parties. That's new.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@michael shay

Conservatives had the same donations
If Sheer was PM he would use remediation agreement to protect innocent Canadian jobs and retired investors

Steve Prior
Steve Prior
@Troy Mann There you go with truth again. The Conservatives were given at little over $8,100 while the Liberals were given just shy of $110,00. Do mistruths come naturally to you?

Lloyd Jones
Lloyd Jones
@michael shay
Classic illustration of why all funding to political parties should be PUBLIC and private donations of any kind from organizations or individuals should be banned, and that backed up by jail time. Liberal Quebec Sponsorgate, Tory "Mister Five Percent" scams, Conservative "in and out" scheme are just a few of the more obvious abuses enabled by private donations. Wealthy donors meeting party leaders in secret are another whole story. Time to take back OUR government!

Kelly Nelson
Kelly Nelson
@Lloyd Jones While we're at it, all lobbying of government officials should also be banned. Why give preferential access to sway or influence our institutions that are supposed to be serving the population.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Steve Prior

8000 or 110000 are both wrong

James Holden
James Holden
@michael shay

And the time period when those donations happened was 2004-2011.
Trudeau was only a n MP for part of that time at the time and not the party leader..

James Holden
James Holden
@Steve Prior

Neither the Conservatives or the Liberals could have known at the time that the legal donations were being illegally reimbursed by SNC-Lavalin

david mccaig
david mccaig
@michael shay

Doug Ford is showing what happens when you put conservatives in power , say goodbye to your healthcare.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@michael shay

Give these conservatives in power first they'll come for your healthcare then they'll come for your pensions.

Philip Nicholson
Philip Nicholson
@Troy Mann No they didnt have the same donations. The Libs got $113,000. The Cons got $5000. Google it.

David Amos
David Amos
@michael shay "Trudeau knows who his boss is."

YUP


William Thompson Jr.
William Thompson Jr.
@michael shay
Who's the Boss?

David Amos
David Amos
@William Thompson Jr. Who's the Boss?

Chretien









Joe Smithson 
Daryll Mcbain
This government is less transparent then the last.


Richard Smith
Richard Smith
@Daryll Mcbain
Harper wasn't always perfect and made mistakes, but looking back he was MUCH better.

Joe Smithson
Joe Smithson
@Richard Smith

LOL no Harper was a disgrace

James Holden
James Holden
@Richard Smith

Harper was despicable and by far worse than the present Government in every way.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Daryll Mcbain

Wonder if Stephen Harper will go back to the US go on Fox news and again berate our elected government.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Daryll Mcbain

Quote "Harper was despicable and by far worse than the present Government in every way."
I'll second that.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Daryll Mcbain

When these conservatives continue to act like anything but cconservatives how are we to take a party serious thats in such confusion.

Ron Brady
Ron Brady
Harper was one of the best PM's this country has ever had.

William Thompson Jr.
William Thompson Jr.
@Ron Brady
That's a fact!

David Amos
David Amos
@Ron Brady "Harper was one of the best PM's this country has ever had."

Methinks I should thank you for the comic relief In return perhaps you should Google "Harper and Bankers" sometime if you wish to laugh a how I chucked him in bed with one TrudeauThe Younger's many puppet masters N'esy Pas?










Chris Bond
Chris Bond
Worst PM in the history of this great nation.

Completely disgusting.


Chris Bond
Chris Bond
@Steve Kennedy
Best look again.

Sam Samnah
Sam Samnah
@Steve Kennedy lol you need to stop looking at 2015 numbers.

Myke Lee
Myke Lee
@Steve Kennedy nope

Ray Leland
Ray Leland
@Steve Kennedy it’s 2019 not 2015

Cory Park
Cory Park
@Chris Bond sold Canada out. Record deficits out side of a recession. First PM found guilty of braking Code of Ethics law.

James Holden
James Holden
@Chris Bond

That would be Harper, closely followed by Mulroney

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Chris Bond

"Worst PM in the history of this great nation. Completely disgusting."

This comment must have time traveled, its not 2015.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Chris Bond

"Worst PM in the history of this great nation. Completely disgusting."

Oh you'll get over it.

William Thompson Jr.
William Thompson Jr.
@Chris Bond
Hands down by a long shot!

David Amos
David Amos
@Chris Bond "Worst PM in the history of this great nation."

Methinks many folks will agree with me in that John A MacDonald holds that title hands down N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/john-a-macdonald-statue-victoria-city-hall-lisa-helps-1.4782065

John A. Macdonald statue removed from Victoria City Hall

'We're here to say there's no honour in cultural genocide and it's time for the statue to go,' supporters say
CBC News · Posted: Aug 11, 2018 8:25 AM PT










Troy Mann
Daryll Mcbain
Good to see, these Liberals need to be held to account.


Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Daryll Mcbain

For what? Trying to protect innocent Canadian jobs and using remediation agreement which is law?

Peter Manchak
Peter Manchak
@Troy Mann Seems like only Quebec jobs to me? What about the rest of Canada's jobs?

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Peter Manchak

SNC is across Canada and Quebec is still a part of Canada even though conservatives dont want them to be

Shirley Witt
Shirley Witt
@Troy Mann
Why are people so casual about criminal activites, this is decades of the same, the jobs will be picked up by other companies awarded the contracts, why is there so much concern for this Quebec company?

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Shirley Witt

The executives who committed the crime should be held accountable not the innocent workers and investors.

You mentioned Quebec so I suggest bigotry is you issue. SNC is a Canadian company period.

Fiona Lang
Fiona Lang
@Troy Mann This law was not passed to protect any companies but SNC-Lavalin and Bombardier. Oil and Gas companies would not be granted such privileges.

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Peter Manchak If SNC Lavalin folds... the transfer payments will go up.. again. Be careful what you wish for..LOL

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Shirley Witt LOL.. Because it's a Quebec Company.... 'nuff said.

Allen Quisnel
Allen Quisnel
@Troy Mann mentioning a place isn't bigotry. Making unfounded accusations of bigotry however is a last resort argument.

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Allen Quisnel

Why the need to bring up their headquarters is located in Quebec other than for bigotry baed reasons?
Doug Gray
Doug Gray
@Troy Mann
Always a victim, where do we here that before?

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Daryll Mcbain

Knowing their political positions, how could any reasonable Canadian vote for these conservatives in 2019.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Daryll Mcbain

Trudeau may be making rookie mistakes,but the opposition are so bad, he's still the best of the worst.

david mccaig
david mccaig
@Daryll Mcbain

Give me a Robert Stanfield conservative and even I will vote for him.

William Thompson Jr.
William Thompson Jr.
@Daryll Mcbain
Scheer will keep the pressure on and become a Canadian hero!

William Thompson Jr.
William Thompson Jr.
@Troy Mann
For all the scandals!

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann Methinks Harper 2.0 has put your knickers in quite a knot over very questionable remediation agreements N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@William Thompson Jr. "Scheer will keep the pressure on and become a Canadian hero!"

Dream on




Scheer sends Trudeau letter demanding he waive solicitor-client privilege in SNC-Lavalin case

PMO facing allegations of asking former attorney general to intervene in SNC-Lavalin court case


Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer is calling on the prime minister to waive the solicitor-client privilege that the former attorney general says prevents her from commenting on the SNC-Lavalin case. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

The leader of the federal Opposition has sent a letter to the prime minister to demand he cede the solicitor-client privilege that former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould says prevents her from commenting on the SNC-Lavalin case.

The request is outlined in a letter sent by Andrew Scheer on Sunday morning, pushing for Justin Trudeau to allow Wilson-Raybould to speak about allegations she was pressured by the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) to help the Quebec construction company avoid criminal prosecution.

It comes on the heels of a Globe and Mail report last week, citing anonymous sources, that members of Trudeau's office tried to press then-Justice Minister Wilson-Raybould to have federal prosecutors negotiate a "remediation agreement" with SNC-Lavalin rather than move ahead with legal proceedings.



The Quebec engineering and construction giant has been charged with fraud and corruption in connection with payments of nearly $48 million to public officials in Libya under Moammar Gadhafi's government, and allegations it defrauded Libyan organizations of an estimated $130 million.
A senior government official told CBC News the new justice minister, David Lametti, is being asked for his advice on waiving that privilege. (Wilson-Raybould was shuffled to the post of minister of veterans affairs last month.)

The official added that the House of Commons justice committee will be left to make its own decisions and that the prime minister still has confidence in Wilson-Raybould.

Justice committee chair Anthony Housefather told CBC News he would be convening an emergency meeting on Wednesday to discuss the proposal from the Conservatives and the NDP asking for high-level government officials to testify.

He added that the committee will then determine if they want to take action, and what that action should be.

Former AG can speak — if government allows


On Friday, Wilson-Raybould released a statement saying that as the government's top lawyer, she is bound by solicitor-client privilege and cannot publicly talk about aspects of the case.
That's what Scheer is pushing for.

"I call on you to immediately waive solicitor-client privilege in respect of any advice given to you or your staff in relation to the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin," he wrote. "Additionally, I call on you to also waive any and all rights to confidentiality in respect of communications to or from yourself or any member of your staff (previous or current) in relation to the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin."

Scheer notes that two former prime ministers waived that legal right in order to co-operate with different investigations: Stephen Harper during the investigation into Sen. Mike Duffy's expenses, and Paul Martin, who waived cabinet confidence during the Gomery inquiry into the federal sponsorship scandal.

'Something you wish to keep hidden'


"Canadians deserve answers on this 'matter,' as the allegations surrounding it strike at the very heart of fair and impartial law enforcement and prosecutorial functions, themselves vital to the rule of law and to our democracy," the letter continues.

"If you do not meet this obligation, Canadians can only conclude that there is something you wish to keep hidden."

Earlier this week, Scheer, backed by the NDP, called for an emergency meeting of the Commons justice committee to question high-ranking officials — including Wilson-Raybould herself.


Points North
Scheer and Cullen call for PMO officials to explain themselves in person

 Opposition leader Andrew Scheer and NDP MP Nathan Cullen want top PMO officials to appear at the Commons Justice committee next week 0:43


The federal lobbyist registry shows representatives of SNC-Lavalin logged more than 50 meetings with federal officials and parliamentarians on subjects that included "justice" and "law enforcement."

The company is contesting the case and has pleaded not guilty. The case is at the preliminary hearing stage.

With files from the CBC's David Cochrane








Scheer tells N.B. town hall 'job #1' as PM would be to repeal carbon pricing

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Methinks everybody knows why I am looking forward to running against Mr Scheer's lawyer buddy Rob Moore again N'esy Pas?




https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fredericton-andrew-scheer-town-hall-live-1.5014675



Scheer tells N.B. town hall 'job #1' as PM would be to repeal carbon pricing





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David Amos
David Amos
Methinks everybody knows why I am looking forward to running against Mr Scheer's lawyer buddy Rob Moore again N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276



David Amos 
David Amos
"Donald Wright, a political scientist at the University of New Brunswick, said the party needs to find strong local candidates to ensure they aren't shut out again in Atlantic Canada."

Political scientist EH? Well it certainly ain't rocket science. Methinks many Maritimers can name at least a half a dozen ridings that Andy could be a blue coat on a dog and it would win next time N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
"On Tuesday, he speaks to a business audience in the morning before meeting with Tory N.B. Premier Blaine Higgs and his cabinet and holding a policy brainstorming session with Conservatives from across Atlantic Canada"

Too Too Funny

Methinks a lot of folks would love to witness Conservatives having a brainstorm Perhaps its just like monstrous headache N'esy Pas?




David Amos
David Amos
Methinks Mr Scheer should have a interesting conversation on CBC in Fat Fred City this morning after having fun with his friends last night N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/andrew-scheer-fredericton-town-hall-1.5015318

Scheer sees friendly faces at Fredericton town hall

Federal opposition leader answered questions Monday night
CBC News · Posted: Feb 12, 2019 4:00 AM AT







David Amos
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David Amos
Its 7:22 AM and Seguin of CBC just quizzed Andy Baby about Energy East Pipeline and his nonsense about the Irving Clan upgrading their refinery and I chuckled. However methinks folks must find it strange that Andy and Seguin failed to mention the fact that Trudeau The Younger bought a pipeline out west that is going nowhere fast N'esy Pas?


John Nelson
John Nelson
@David Amos Can you stop ending all your posts with N'esy Pas since N'esy Pas isn't a phrase in any language?

David Amos
David Amos
@John Nelson Methinks just did the job for you with this comment N'esy Pas?








greg howard
greg howard
"As innovations take place and as companies invest in different types of power sources, those types of things will be occurring, in some cases, naturally as part of the economy progresses, and society progresses," he said. "And government can absolutely play a role in encouraging innovation as well."

Talk about bafflegab!!!! He thinks companies will just switch to 'greener' energy out of the goodness of their hearts?? Just like the investments they made when the taxpayers gave them corporate tax breaks?
Oh wait, they didn't did they? They just sat on the extra cash!!!!!!
No plan is just that, no plan. Meanwhile dogwhistle politics at its best/worst here.


David Amos
David Amos
@greg howard "Talk about bafflegab!!!!"

I have not doubt his fans loved it. However you must recall Trudeau claimed the budget would balance itself. Methinks that is exactly the same type of bafflegab and yet he is the PM N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@greg howard "Talk about bafflegab!!!!"

I have not doubt his fans loved it. However you must recall Trudeau claimed the budget would balance itself. Methinks that is exactly the same type of bafflegab and yet he is the PM N'esy Pas?

Roland Wippel
Roland Wippel
@David Amos Except that the comment about the budget was pulled out of context from a much longer sentence, which you conveniently ignore. The actual full sentence was, if the right economic environment is created, the budget will balance itself.

John Nelson
John Nelson
@greg howard Every great advancement made throughout history has been the result of capitalism. It will be in this case as well. Perhaps if you studied up, you might understand this a little better.

Garry Hiebert
Garry Hiebert
@greg howard
Tax tax tax deficits deficits deficits the liberal mantra. Nice to see other options to reduce emissions it is better to use the carrot the beat them with a stick. The carbon tax is nothing but a tax grab and the money will be spent on everything but emission control.

David Amos
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David Amos
@John Nelson "Can you stop ending all your posts with N'esy Pas since N'esy Pas isn't a phrase in any language?"

Methinks just did the job for you with the comment you chastised me about Amirite? (That ain't a word either according to you but lots of people use it N'esy Pas?)

David Amos
David Amos
@Roland Wippel Methinks both the liberals and the conservatives are the champs at conveniently ignoring things N'esy Pas?

Perhaps Trudeau will tell you who within his beloved peoplekind which he now oversees is missing from this article

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276


David Amos
David Amos
@John Nelson "Can you stop ending all your posts with N'esy Pas since N'esy Pas isn't a phrase in any language?"

Methinks you have never been down to the Bay of Fundy to parlie in Chiac N'esy Pas?








Don Pooley 
allen simpson
Baby Sneer crying again, the cons have no plans for anything to do with the environment so they have to dump their garbage on the liberals.


David Amos
David Amos
@allen simpson Methinks the former speaker was not crying on CBC infomorning in Fredericton minutes ago Perhaps he will go down the hill to Federal Court and pull my file and then start crying N'esy Pas?












Don Pooley 
Robert Brannen
Both Scheer and Trudeau need to find a copy of James Hansen's book "Storms of My Grandchildren" and give it a reading. The book outlines a proper carbon tax plan.
The Trudeau carbon tax plan applies the tax at the incorrect level; Scheer just refuses to get his head out of the sand and face reality.


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Brannen "Scheer just refuses to get his head out of the sand and face reality."

Methinks the same should be said of Trudeau N'esy Pas?











Mar Pell 
Mar Pell
The cons must spend the night whining.

I pity then for being so gullible.


David Amos
David Amos
@Mar Pell Methinks everybody knows gullible is what liberal supporters are as well N'esy Pas?












William Ben 
William Ben
Only the naive think paying Trudeau’s carbon tax will stop the floods the fires and the tornados.

Scheer is right to stop this heinous tax grab in save the planet clothing.


Robert Brannen
Robert Brannen
@William Ben

The naïve also believe that Canada's forests are a net carbon sink and exempt Canadians from being net contributors to the problem of carbon dioxide emissions.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/canada-forests-carbon-sink-or-source-1.5011490

David Amos
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David Amos
@William Ben "Only the naive think paying Trudeau’s carbon tax will stop the floods the fires and the tornados."

Mais Oui


David Amos
David Amos
@William Ben Methinks its strange that I cannot agree with you in the other official language and the Anglos don't like my employment of Chiac N'esy Pas?











William Ben 
William Ben
Job number one is to remove our not so transparent PM.


David Amos
David Amos
@William Ben YUP











Neil Gregory
Neil Gregory
Job #1 for Canadian voters is to make sure that Scheer and his reformacons do not get elected.

Canada can't afford another mess like the one the Harper government left us.


Joyce Hope Shortell
Joyce Hope Shortell
@Neil Gregory , What mess? He didn't divide the country the way Trudeau has.

David Amos
David Amos
@Joyce Hope Shortell Methinks they both did N'esy Pas?











Don Pooley 
mo bennett
vote green! sleep at night!


Craig Macneil
Craig Macneil
@mo bennett im voting green,enough of the mafia style libs and cons.

William Ben
William Ben
@mo bennett you six fine people in this LPC echo chamber will give the greens a huge boost!

David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett YO MO Methinks you are in for many restless nights N'esy Pas?










Don Pooley 
Craig Macneil
Thats millions of votes Scheer just lost.The greenies are a huge amount of voters on Canada.I don't think he understands much.


William Ben
William Ben
@Craig Macneil the greens I doubt they are viable.

David Amos
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David Amos
@William Ben The Greens are a joke

David Amos
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David Amos
@Craig Macneil Methinks there are many things greenies don't understand either N'esy Pas?










Don Pooley 
mo bennett
Canada wood be better off with San Fernando Red as PM.


David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett YUP








Don Pooley 
mo bennett
Canada doesn't want a mini-steve. get over it!


David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett YO MO Is San Fernando Red available?











Don Pooley 
mo bennett
PM is merely an acronym for pre- menopausal.


David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett Go back to bed










Don Pooley 
mo bennett
yo! andy! methinks it's time for a visit to Buford's milliner, messy paws?


David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett YO MO I see you are up early and having fun with my expressions 2 boot. Methinks it is a sincere form of flattery N'esy Pas?











Don Pooley 
mo bennett
the ambulance chaser will never be PM of anything.


David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett YO MO Methinks you must been dreaming about lawyers last night Whereas the only two wannabe PM ambulance chasers are Max and Jaggy one of them must have upset you N'esy Pas?











Don Pooley 
Patrick Dool
University Professors claim the Conservatives are a Western Canada party? Please.
Ontario has kicked the Provincial Liberals to non-party status. Ontario has moved decisively to the Right and completely against carbon taxes.
The Trudeau Liberals are next, but we do have some pockets of Socialist/NDP (like University Professors) who stubbornly advocate Government control of everything but it's maybe 10%. The media should ask the working-man and woman.


David Amos
David Amos
@Patrick Dool Methinks everybody knows there is supposed to be a BIG difference between Harper's Federal Conservative Party and the Provincial Progressive Conservative Parties kinda kinda like the Provincial Liberals in BC versus the Federal ones N'esy Pas?


Neil Gregory
Neil Gregory
@Patrick Dool

How soon the right-wing, Conservative posters forget that just a couple of decades ago their party had only TWO seats in the house of Commons. The reason? Brian Mulroney! McGuinty and Wynne were just Ontario's version of Mulroney and Harper. So, like a bad penny the Liberals will return to haunt us once again.

Neil Gregory
Neil Gregory
@David Amos

Those differences are only cosmetic window dressing. Their basic philosophies are remain just as they have always been.

David Amos
David Amos
@Neil Gregory Why else would I run for public office six times thus far?










Don Pooley 
Mr Scheer does not appear to accept that the climate change issue is serious and demands concerted action sooner rather then later. Relying on random innovation is not going to do it. It is a fact that carbon pricing is acknowledged as the most efficient way to lower carbon emissions among economists, especially given the tax will be mostly refunded. Canada has to do it's part for climate change.


David Amos
David Amos
@ Methinks we all should ask WHO ARE YOU N'esy Pas?




 



Don Pooley 
William James
A Carbon Tax with out any alternatives is just a tax, not the virtuous climate change game changer that a certain conceited fellow would have us believe.


David Amos
David Amos
@William James True








Don Pooley 
keat Grant
Hey Scheer what's your plan to lower egg and dairy prices


keat Grant
keat Grant
@keat Grant Btw he has no plan!

David Amos
David Amos
@keat Grant Whats Trudeau's?









JOHN MCTAGGART
JOHN MCTAGGART
"Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer told a town hall tonight that his first job as prime minister would be to repeal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's climate change plan."
THE STORY

Yet again Blandy Andy sets off down the wrong path.

Will he never learn the world has passed him by?


David Amos
David Amos
@JOHN MCTAGGART Will you?










Don Pooley 
James Ruslin
Removing the disposable income of the working class will stop the planetary climate cycle about as well as prayer.

The Carbon Tax is a giant tax grab wrapped in delusional virtue.


David Amos
David Amos
@James Ruslin YUP











Don Pooley 
Robert Tyre
You would think job 1 would be to restore democracy and rule of law. Sounds like old Andrew is not all that upset about the way things operate behind the scenes with donours and political friends as long as they are his friends


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Tyre "You would think job 1 would be to restore democracy and rule of law."

Methinks that is your job and mine because politicians never will do their job N'esy Pas?









Don Pooley 
Lucas Williams
If the revenue generated from Trudeau's carbon pricing policies could be proven to ameliorate the effects of global warming, I'm sure most Canadians would go for it, but we all know that it is merely a Liberal tax grab which Trudeau will continue wasting on non-Canadian interests and additional self-serving global initiatives


David Amos
David Amos
@Lucas Williams YUP








Don Pooley 
Lucas Williams
As the article states, "...Scheer's base is in Western Canada and he will need to raise his profile in the Maritimes..."
This already has been started and will grow as the Liberals continue to fall from grace as their unrelenting self-destruction continues due to their inability to avoid their unethical quagmires that will be their undoing in the upcoming election.

David Amos
David Amos
@Lucas Williams Welcome to the Circus









Mike Fisto
Mike Fisto
"The national price on carbon is "a tax on commuters and a free pass for polluters". Congrats Mr Scheer, you just described Frod's plan for Ontario. Did you discuss that with him? Doesn't understand carbon control at all. Just not ready.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Mike Fisto Methinks Mr Butts should ask Mr Dressup to explain carbon tax to his fellow Maritimers real slow N'esy Pas?



David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos Methinks that was a rather telling thing Obviously I struck a nerve N'esy Pas?










Don Pooley 
Peter Pier
Is he going to cut the tens of billions of dollars of subsidies to climate change-causing tar sands industry or is he going to keep allowing the oil companies to privatize the profits and socialize the environmental costs?


Robert Tyre
Robert Tyre
@Peter Pier and the well clean up costs

David Amos
David Amos
@Peter Pier What is Trudeau doing about such things right now?









Don Pooley 
Lucas Williams
"...The Scheer Reformers platform is simply to be against anything you could call Liberal..."

Sounds good to me...

Hurry up October 21...


Mike Fisto
Mike Fisto
@Lucas Williams Elections are won by good policy. Opposition for the sake of opposing is very obvious, and very boring.

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams
@Mike Fisto

let us have this discussion again after October 21...

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams
@Lucas Williams

"...against anything you could call Liberal..." being the previously proven unethical conduct and the current Liberal ethical scandals that will put them out of office...

Robert Tyre
Robert Tyre
@Mike Fisto elections SHOULD be won on good policy. In Canada though it is more a matter of tossing out the Libs for the Cons or tossing out the Cons for the Libs. Policy matters not because their policies differ so little

David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Tyre What good is a good policy when they don't really mean to support it once they are elected?

David Amos
David Amos
@Lucas Williams It should be an interesting day EH?










Don Pooley 
Don Pooley
The Scheer Reformers platform is simply to be against anything you could call liberal or progressive.
That's all Folks!

David Amos
David Amos
@Don Pooley Sounds about right








Brian Hughes 
Brian Hughes
Scheer once again is showing that he and his Party ares unfit for government in the 21st century. Climate change is an overwhelming threat to human existence as outlined by world class climate experts. And yet, Scheer refuses to take the issue seriously and instead engages in dishonest political games.
His backbiting comments about the new NAFTA trade deal is also dishonest. He has refused to acknowledge that the deal was the result of trying to negotiate with an unhinged President and the gang of weirdos that have collected around him.
It's very disappointing to have an opposition leader who does not offer thoughtful and considered criticism.


Mike Fisto
Mike Fisto
@Brian Hughes I wonder if Scheer has discussed the new NAFTA with Harper and Ambrose. They were bound to go to the US to "help" get an agreement. They've gone silent, and Scheer doesn't discuss their input. Selective memory?

David Amos
David Amos
@Mike Fisto "Selective memory?"

Methinks it is a common trait among all politicians N'esy Pas?










Troy Mann 
Troy Mann
So Andy has no plan
Andy stated clearly long ago he would have capitulated to Trump on NAFTA and now he has the gall to say he thinks it was a bad deal... Wow...

Why did Andy shut down an investigation into a major leak of private information to a gun lobby? You only close an investigation when you have the guilty party yet Andy refuses to be transparent and tell us who is guilty or hold the guilty party accountable!!!


David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann Methinks Andy should ask the RCMP to launch an investigation into all the money the liberals squandered on the gun registry Oh Yea the RCMP wanted it so that would go nowhere fast N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann I have a better idea why not launch an investigation of the investment industry Methinks that is something you know a lot about Nesy Pas?



Mike Fisto
Mike Fisto
@David Amos The public, particularly in Quebec, were yelling for a gun registry, so they spent some money. Then, as anticipated by most gun owners, it turned into a money pit, a boondoggle that cost us big bucks to try to implement. IMO, most Canadians want common sense gun control and the system attempted was NOT that. It's a political rule of thumb: create an agency that not ALL of the people want, and watch it turn into a money pit. Need I mention the repeated requests for more time and more money for the inquiry into missing and murdered aboriginal women? Same old story. Gimme gimme gimme, more time, more money. At least the government knew when to say "enough already". The CPC, to give credit where its due, warned us that it would be costly and resolve nothing.

David Amos
David Amos
@Mike Fisto Clearly you don't know who I am










Troy Mann 
George Penner
Why doesn't Scheer come right out and admit it that just like his predecessor Harper and his buddies Ford and Trump, Scheer is a climate change denier.


Adam Mashinter
Adam Mashinter
@George Penner - Probably because you just made that up.

David Amos
David Amos
@Adam Mashinter Touche

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Adam Mashinter

I heard it from an anonymous source so it is truth

David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Mann You would not believe what I heard about you








Gerry Manley 
Gerry Manley
"Conservatives, job #1 will be to repeal the carbon tax."

Good thing Scheer Nonsense will never be PM.


David Amos
David Amos
@Gerry Manley Methinks if that were true then I should ask why is Trudeau the current PM N'esy Pas?


Mike Fisto
Mike Fisto
@David Amos Trudeau is PM because he beat the hell our of the other parties. BTW, your fracturing of the French language is not funny, but is offensive.

Gerry Manley
Gerry Manley
@Mike Fisto

I agree and I see no humor in the French comment either.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Mike Fisto Methinks you forgot to ask me if I cared about what you think N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@Gerry Manley Methinks you forgot to ask me if I cared about what you think N'esy Pas?









Troy Mann 
Eileen Kinley
So, Scheer complains that a price on carbon is a tax on commuters and free pass for polluters.

Ignoring for now that most of us will get back more than we paid...

How will he make polluters pay? What is he telling the oil patch and large emitters across the country? Because those industries will tell him that if they pay they won't be "competitive".

CAPP is pushing for an increase in emissions:

"CAPP’s recommendations advocate for a strong growth scenario for the oil and natural gas industry in Alberta, increasing its competitiveness in the global energy market and attracting investment back to the province. CAPP’s Energy Platform sets goals to ensure the rate of Alberta’s oil and natural gas supply doubles in growth and helps meet global demand; "

Note that global demand will be dropping if it lives up to the Paris Agreement.

We've been waiting 20-30 years for industry to get their act in gear. Obviously they won't do it voluntarily. And apparently they don't want the world to meet the Paris Agreement.


David Amos
David Amos
@Eileen Kinley Who is "we" ?









Troy Mann 
Norm Head
Scheer is the man for who's plan is not having a plan. "Industry will do it." Just like they do low cost affordable housing. All these things the private sector was supposed to accomplish really didn't pan out. The Government will provide "incentives" , to the good friends of the Conservative party. The other 60% of the population will be shut out. Just like in Harper's day.


Doug Sanden
Doug Sanden
@Norm Head Agreed - can't absolutely count on private sector to hit Paris targets voluntarily - public companies have a duty to shareholders to maximize shareholder value within laws and regulations, and unless they can earn some good will from customers to offset price increases for decarbonizing at net cost, they are unlikely to. Small business are usually in a dogfight with near competitors, and can't usually voluntarily decarbonize at net cost and pass the price on without losing businesses to dirtier competitors, A carbon tax makes that fair again.

David Amos
David Amos
@Norm Head "Scheer is the man for who's plan is not having a plan."

Methinks at least it can't be a bad plan N'esy Pas?

Doug Sanden
Doug Sanden
@David Amos It is worse for most canadians if it costs more and/or does less than the federal backstop or provincial plans.

David Amos
David Amos
@Doug Sanden Promising to remove a tax is not a bad plan in my book

Doug Sanden
Doug Sanden
@David Amos A carbon tax is the _cheapest_ way to accelerate decarbonization. Every other way costs more for less. Do you want to pay more, or do less?

David Amos
David Amos
@Doug Sanden Do you know who I am?

Tatyana Sivak
Tatyana Sivak
@Doug Sanden Decarbonization? Don’t mix pollution with CO2 (carbon dioxide).
CO2 is not a pollutant.
CO2 is an essence of life. "The theory of life, in brief, is such that carbon dioxide is the basic nutrition of every life form on Earth... It acts as the regulator of all functions in the organism, it maintains the internal environment of the organism, it is the vitamin of all vitamins." Dr. K. P. Buteyko
"Carbon dioxide is, in fact, a more fundamental component of living matter than is oxygen. Carbon dioxide is the chief hormone of the entire body; it is the only one that is produced by every tissue and probably acts on every organ." Yandell Henderson, Ph.D. The function of our respiratory system is not just to push air in and out but to maintain a very specific ratio of oxygen to carbon dioxide. HOW MUCH CARBON DIOXIDE DO WE NEED?
THE AIR THAT WE BREATHE CONTAINS 200 TIMES LESS CARBON DIOXIDE THAN WE NEED AND 10 TIMES MORE OXYGEN THAN WE NEED. Low carbon dioxide causes stress on all the body's organ systems.


Doug Sanden
Doug Sanden
@Tatyana Sivak Correct/right/agreed - decarbonization is a common short hand term for reducing/minimizing/eliminating anthropogenic/human-cause net GHG greenhouse gas emissions - mostly from fossil fuel combustion

David Amos
David Amos
@Doug Sanden "Fossil fuel" Yea Right

Do you really believe that oil comes from dead dinosaurs?


Mike Fisto
Mike Fisto
@David Amos OK. Why not ask that the taxes that pay for your safety net should be reduced/removed?

Mike Fisto
Mike Fisto
@David Amos I doubt very much that anyone here CARES who you are.

Mike Fisto
Mike Fisto
@Tatyana Sivak Old news. We've heard this crap repeatedly, and its been wrong every time.

JOHN MCTAGGART
JOHN MCTAGGART
@Mike Fisto

I do not!

David Amos
David Amos
@Mike Fisto "I doubt very much that anyone here CARES who you are."

So you say EH?







Troy Mann 
Doug Sanden
Kill carbon tax? I want it - economists agree its the _cheapest_ way to accelerate decarbonization -as measured in $/tonne abated or % GDP. Every other way costs more for less. Including incentives (will need a tax grab to pay for them, or they will be piddly marginal stuff). And I'm in 66 tonne/capita AB (Canada averages 15 tonnes/capita) - AB has a long way to decarbonize, we need the cheapest way.


David Amos
David Amos
@Doug Sanden Methinks economists would agree to anything you pay them to agree to N'esy Pas?

Doug Sanden
Doug Sanden
@David Amos No one is paying them for a specific answer. Academics publishing studies in journals are trying to come with the right / true answer. And EU, US and Canadian academic economists agree broad based carbon pricing -including cap & trade and carbon tax - is the most efficient / cheapest per tonne abated. That's because those with the lowest marginal cost of abatement will abate first. See ecofiscal.ca for studies by economists on carbon pricing.

David Amos
David Amos
@Doug Sanden Trust that i didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

Methinks all the liberals, Mr Scheer and his former boss know I caused a hearing at the Senate Banking Committee in Washington the year before I ran for a seat in the 38th Parliament and 5 years before the economy collapsed in 2008 N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos



Mike Fisto
Mike Fisto
@David Amos And where are you now? Yapping on CBC and insulting every French person in Canada. How the mighty have fallen.

JOHN MCTAGGART
JOHN MCTAGGART
@David Amos

I feel really sad for you!

What was all that supposed to prove?








Troy Mann 
Randy A. Selkirk
Integrity malfunctions are happening in the PMO and people are pointing fingers . Wow . All partisan loyalties aside , this guy Trudeau, well he is simply the real Donald !


David Amos
David Amos
@Randy A. Selkirk Nobody holds a candle to The Donald.

Methinks many would agree that that Yankee is in a league of his own N'esy Pas?









Troy Mann 
Robert Brannen
"Wright said Scheer's base is in Western Canada and he will need to raise his profile in the Maritimes."

The problem being that Prairie populism (a.k.a. Conservatism) is recognized as Liberalism in the Atlantic Provinces. Too much emphasis on individual freedom; not enough concern for the greater good of society at large. Policy that would span the divide between the two camps would be truly amazing to read.


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Brannen Good luck with that wish coming true









Troy Mann 
Ian Newell
"As innovations take place and as companies invest in different types of power sources, those types of things will be occurring, in some cases, naturally as part of the economy progresses, and society progresses,"……….empty again.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ian Newell Methinks the crickets loved it N'esy Pas?









Troy Mann 
Carey Turner
I just say Peter MacKay on CBC talk about INTEGRITY, WOW, surprised he knew the word.


Al Marsden
Al Marsden
@Carey Turner. Isn't this the same guy who had a government helicopter take him on a personal fishing trip?
Or was that someone else?

David Amos
David Amos
@Carey Turner "INTEGRITY, WOW, surprised he knew the word."

FYI My legal argument in Federal Court in Fredericton began with Peter MacKay

Methinks you may enjoy Googling the following N'esy Pas?

"Integrity ya right David Amos Peter MacKay"

Adam Mashinter
Adam Mashinter
@Al Marsden - No, that was the Aga Kahn's helicopter, it was Tiny Potatoes, and he lied to us about it for over a year.

Not sure if he went fishing.









Troy Mann 
Peter Steffler
I remember when Andy's mentor characterized the Maritime provinces as "The culture of defeatism."


Al Marsden
Al Marsden
@Peter Steffler. That comment was correct.
Sometimes the truth hurts.

David Amos
David Amos
@Peter Steffler Lest we forget

David Amos
David Amos
@Al Marsden Oh My








Troy Mann 
HankBurnaby
Before repealing the carbon tax, try to understand why it is around. Remember, we - all humans - are jeopradizing our future for the sake of the corporations - if it isn't too late already.


David Amos
David Amos
@HankBurnaby Methinks liberals can call all it whatever they wish but it is just another tax that will nothing for the planet N'esy Pas?

Norm Head
Norm Head
@David Amos
And the conservatives have a plan that will do something for the planet? Now I'm laughing.

David Amos
David Amos
@Norm Head Me Too









Troy Mann 
Peter Steffler
Job #2 for Andy would be to reinstate Tony Clements member back into the caucus.


Al Marsden
Al Marsden
@Peter Steffler. Clever comment!

David Amos
David Amos
@Peter Steffler Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?









Troy Mann 
Jim Redmond
I would repeal the carbon revenue expropriation scheme 5 minutes after I was sworn in as PM. Think about it folks --- there's a reason why it's called revenue expropriation.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Redmond YUP









Troy Mann 
Helen Kochanik
scheer you fake. you cannot even run a country. you are reformer conservatives. hope you get lost. will not vote for you.


Denis Dalore
Denis Dalore
@Helen Kochanik I will.

David Amos
David Amos
@Helen Kochanik @Denis Dalore Thats music to my ears






Dawn Lee
Dawn Lee
Scheer gave good answers. No drama, no whining, just straight talk. All he needs is a sweater vest :)


David Amos
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David Amos
@Dawn Lee Methinks all Trudeau the Younger has to do is roll up his sleeves and you know he means business N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos and the editing begins for the benefit of you know who









Troy Mann 
Graham Greene
AKA, disregarding a future of the country.

Yesterday's man in a boys costume.


David Amos
David Amos
@Graham Greene Harper's history However methinks all the young dudes he appointed to wear old men's costumes in the courts throughout the county will be around for years N'esy Pas?








Troy Mann 
Roger Jerome
What...no platitudes, lecturing or finger wagging like Mr, Dressup?


Al Marsden
Al Marsden
@Roger Jerome. No Bollywood gear?
No dancing?

David Amos
David Amos
@Roger Jerome Methinks Andy is relying on his dimples to win the day over sunny ways N'esy Pas?








Troy Mann 
Myles Grant
This is why Scheer will never be prime minister. All the things that need fixing in this country, and he thinks carbon pricing is job 1? Voting out Andrew Scheer will be job 1.


David Amos
David Amos
@Myles Grant Methinks he has to be voted in before he is voted out Hence it would be job 2 for you if in fact he ever won N'esy Pas?









Troy Mann 
Carey Turner
Andy, for the last time, the earth is not flat and is more than 6,000 years old. Serious !

David Amos
David Amos
@Carey Turner I suppose you are gonna tell us that the Yankees didn't walk on the moon either.

Carey Turner
Carey Turner
@David Amos I think it's 50/50 .

David Amos
David Amos
@Carey Turner I never touch the stuff









Troy Mann 
Brent Grywinski
Another invitation only gathering?


David Amos
David Amos
@Brent Grywinski Hard telling not knowing for sure but trust that I was not invited. The Cons must know that I would not go even if I were invited.

Methinks Mr Higgs and everybody else understands the old adage "If you run with turkeys then you are a turkey" N'esy Pas?

Carey Turner
Carey Turner
@Brent Grywinski , In true SH style, all questions scripted, non believers removed.

sian maccauley
sian maccauley
@David Amos

Enough N'esy pas already, N'esy pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@sian maccauley Never









Mar Pell 
Mar Pell
Hope he wears strong adult perfume sprayed in the hall.


David Amos
David Amos
@Mar Pell That comment went over my head Methinks I am not alone perhaps you should explain it so we can all enjoy your joke N'esy Pas?









Troy Mann 
Neil Austen
Canadians need to pay attention to the difference between the tonality of Conservatives and Liberals messages they paint for you.
Conservatives are always against something, fear of something, angry at something, blaming somebody.
Liberal are striving for something, improving something, or helping somebody.
Choose what you want Canada to be.
We do not want Trump-Harper style government in Canada.


Dan Reid
Dan Reid
@Neil Austen why you don't like a truly strong economy?

Brent Grywinski
Brent Grywinski
@Dan Reid
67 000 jobs created in January. We have had a great economy for the last three years. Canada is not going back to low growth and high unemployment under Harper.

David Amos
David Amos
@Neil Austen "We do not want Trump-Harper style government in Canada."

Methinks everybody in Fat Fred City knows a majority of Canadians would agree with you. However another majority ain't too impressed with Trudeau the Younger and his sunny ways Hence the next election is gonna be a circus N'esy Pas?

Myles Grant
Myles Grant
@Brent Grywinski Not true. There was very high employment -- of TFWs-- under Harper and his good buddy Jason Kenney.

Tony Belmore
Tony Belmore
@Dan Reid We got one today. And oil is around $50.00

Carson Brook
Carson Brook
@Neil Austen
maybe the angry attacks would be understandable in angry people if there was anything like policy or platform to balance off the wild vitriol. But there isn't. All Andrew Scheer has is his vengeance against Trudeau and his comfort zone with attacking... big thing is that the media gives him so much leeway - tabloid coverage seems to bring in the health insurance ads like crazy

David Amos
David Amos
@Carson Brook "All Andrew Scheer has is his vengeance against Trudeau and his comfort zone with attacking."

Methinks the same could be said of your attacks on me N'esy Pas?









Troy Mann 
Neil Austen
Let's remind Canadians what happened last time an antiquated Conservative party was in charge of Canada. All the new depths they dragged Canada down to, all those new ‘firsts’ for the country.

First time Canada had TWO recessions in under 8 years.
First Canadian Prime Minister held in CONTEMPT OF PARLIAMENT when Stephen Harper misappropriated tens of millions of dollars. Canadian hard earn tax dollars vanished.
First time Canada rescinded environmental protection for thousands of Canadian waterways and arboreal forests.
First time in history, Canada reduced civil rights and privacy of its citizens with an anti-terror bill and giving up Canadian privacy on the internet.
First time in history, Canada became a mouthpiece for Isreal and funding their border security in the tune of well over half a BILLION dollars under the guise of ‘foreign aid’.
First time in all of Canada’s history, the country could not garner the votes from the international community for a seat on the UN Security Council.
First time in Canada’s history gun lobbyists bragged about their free and easy access to Canadian top government.
First time in history, Canada became an environmental pariah in the international community.
First time a Canadian PM accrued $184 billion of debt for the country and then made $50 billion of it vanish from the books by simply using accounting tricks (google it) so he could claim a faux balance budget on an election year.
First time a Canadian PM made war on the free press to such a degree that Canadian reporters had to implore a visiting Chinese reporter to ask a question of Harper for them.
Etc, etc, etc,
I shiver to think what new depths another Conservative government will drag Canada down to.


David Amos
David Amos
@Neil Austen Methinks you work quite hard for the liberal party N'esy Pas?

Carson Brook
Carson Brook
@David Amos time to google David R Amos NB again n'esy pas

David Amos
David Amos
@Carson Brook Please do and add your name to the search line as well

Troy Mann
Troy Mann
@Neil Austen

Sheer is following up with closing an investigation into a major leak of private information to the gun lobby.

Who closes an investigation into such a crime with out a guilty person? No one
Why is Andy not telling Canadians who leaked the private information to the gun lobby?
Why is Andy refusing to be transparent?

No plan Andy


mo bennett
mo bennett
@Neil Austen look on the bright side, at least they didn't make us suffer thru another epidemic of the plague!!

William Ben
William Ben
@Neil Austen let us discover how quickly the LPC became corrupt and decided to operate outside of the rule of law. No confidence whatsoever in Trudeau and his party.

William Ben
William Ben
@Troy Mann the allegations could not be proven let’s see how Mr. Trudeau does with Lavalin and Norman before we continue on with this theme.

William Ben
William Ben
@Neil Austen contempt of parliament is a technical violation. It’s not illegal just frowned upon and objectionable, unlike the illegal stuff Trudeau likes to do.

Richard Sharp
Richard Sharp
@William Ben

Contempt of Parliament is the most serious “crime” in Parliamentary democracy.

David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Sharp "Contempt of Parliament is the most serious “crime” in Parliamentary democracy."

Methinks you recalled our phone conversation and now understand why I sued the Crown in Federal Court in Fredericton while running for seat in the 42nd Parliament N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@William Ben "contempt of parliament is a technical violation"

Methinks you should explain your opinion to the ghost of Louis Riel or Mr Harper because I think you have no idea what you are talking about and obviously just told you so. Trust that the former Speaker Mr Scheer knows I am the guy who sued the Crown for being falsely accused of being in contempt of parliament while running for public office 6 times and counting N'esy Pas?












Troy Mann
Robert Morris
Scheer takes questions from a group of wealthy businessmen........they did not ask him about the missing stabilizers on the hero class ships or the phoenix failure or the con plan to reduce carbon emissions......all they wanted to hear was how Scheer was going to cut taxes for the rich and make the rest of us pay for it......


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Morris Methinks this is the real reason for the secret meeting with the wealth dudes N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-tories-fundraing-target-prepare-election-1.5014472

Ruling PCs set ambitious fundraising target of $1.6M









Troy Mann 
Daryl McBride
Canada's next PM, keep up the good work.

Myles Grant
Myles Grant
@Daryl McBride Barf bag, please.

David Amos
David Amos
@Daryl McBride Dream on



Richard Sharp
Richard Sharp
@Daryl McBride

The Libs up by 4 in today’s Nanos poll.

David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Sharp I bet that made your day eh?











Dwight Williams 
Dwight Williams
Mediocre Trudeau looks pretty bad, until you listen to Andy Scheer speak.

Then 'a rock and a hard place' springs to mind.


David Amos
David Amos
@Dwight Williams YUP









Dwight Williams 
Dwight Williams
Scheer:

"Id like to give you an in-depth talk about all of the principles I hold firm to and will be campaigning on. And 'll do that as soon as my corporate masters and pollsters tell me what they are".


David Amos
David Amos
@Dwight Williams Oh my my Please say it ain't true









Troy Mann 
Ivan Bannatyne
Perhaps he will disclose what he has to offer as a leader; not much has shown up so far.


Richard Dunn
Richard Dunn
@Ivan Bannatyne Are you a fan of the current PM?
Not trying to be smart.....just cuirous what you are looking for in a leader.

Irv Millar
Irv Millar
@Richard Dunn Someone who does not take orders from Steve Harper or any other rogue consultants would be a start.

David Amos
David Amos
@Irv Millar BINGO








Troy Mann 
Richard Edmonds
Between trudeaus SNC scandal and the Norman case anyone with any sense would never vote for trudeau. All the dumpster fires trudeau has started all on his own over the three plus years. Well that should be enough for any intelligent person to totally forget about voting liberal. Now our coast guard ships need a refit because they are to unstable. Weren’t they just build, didn’t some one say there was a problem before they built them. They roll so much the crew gets sea sick really. Can’t wait for those used F18s to start running up costs for maintenance on the avionics, airframe, weapons system, and engines just to start.


Gerry Manley
Gerry Manley
@Richard Edmonds

So who do you suggest to vote for? Scheer Nonsense, Mad Max, Singh...…?
I don't think so.

David Amos
David Amos
@Gerry Manley Methinks folks should finally consider the Independent Candidates. It would not hurt to have few folks in the house that won't follow the orders of fools N'esy Pas?




Scheer tells N.B. town hall 'job #1' as PM would be to repeal carbon pricing

Scheer promises plan aimed at "incentivizing investments in energy efficiencies"


Leader of the Opposition Andrew Scheer holds an end-of-session news conference in the foyer of the House of Commons in Ottawa Thursday, December 13, 2018. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)


Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer told a town hall tonight that his first job as prime minister would be to repeal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's climate change plan.

The national price on carbon is "a tax on commuters and a free pass for polluters," Scheer said. "Our plan will speak to reducing emissions by incentivizing investments in energy efficiencies. It will not be a punishment on hard-working families."

"Conservatives, job #1 will be to repeal the carbon tax."





Scheer made the comments in Fredericton, N.B. Progressive Conservative Premier Blaine Higgs was in the audience and was welcomed by Scheer, who thanked him for "joining the fight" against the carbon tax.

Scheer's is taking a campaign-style swing through a province that shut his party out in the last federal election.

The Liberals captured all 32 federal seats in Atlantic Canada during the 2015 election, including 10 in New Brunswick, something Scheer said his party will reverse in the fall election.
Scheer also accused Trudeau's government of signing an updated NAFTA trade deal that made concessions while getting nothing in return. The Conservative leader said the deal was especially bad for Canada's dairy farmers.

"I could not believe, though, when I saw the details about what Trudeau agreed with in terms of limiting what Canada can export to other countries," Scheer.

"This is the first free trade deal I've ever seen between two countries where one country agrees not to sell to a third country, to leave space for their competitors to fill that. And that was part of what Trudeau signed on to, giving away our sovereignty to seek out export markets."

Scheer said his party will closely examine a planned compensation plan for dairy farmers.

Interprovincial trade


Asked what he would do to help Canada make a swift transition to a low-carbon economy, Scheer replied by saying that industry should play a leading role.

"As innovations take place and as companies invest in different types of power sources, those types of things will be occurring, in some cases, naturally as part of the economy progresses, and society progresses," he said. "And government can absolutely play a role in encouraging innovation as well."

Scheer said his party will unveil a policy to break down interprovincial trade barriers, "not just in terms of goods and services but also people, allowing companies in one province allowed to be able to compete for work in another province. That creates competition, that creates better products for consumers."

The Conservative leader said that provinces should look inward at reducing trade barriers and that the federal government should play a leadership role in that effort.

Provincial tour


On Tuesday, he speaks to a business audience in the morning before meeting with Premier Higgs and his cabinet and holding a policy brainstorming session with Conservatives from across Atlantic Canada.

Donald Wright, a political scientist at the University of New Brunswick, said the party needs to find strong local candidates to ensure they aren't shut out again in Atlantic Canada.

Wright said Scheer's base is in Western Canada and he will need to raise his profile in the Maritimes.
He said he expects the Conservatives will target a number of key issues, including the Liberals' carbon tax plan.
With files from the Canadian Press

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Jody Wilson-Raybould resigns from cabinet in wake of SNC-Lavalin allegations

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Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No. T-1557-15" in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/jody-wilson-raybould-resigns-from.html





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Jody Wilson-Raybould resigns from cabinet in wake of SNC-Lavalin allegations




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David Amos
David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise




David Amos
David Amos
And now the lady quits? Yea Right

Trust that Mr Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that it irritated me bigtime when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?

Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" N'esy Pas?




David Amos
David Amos
Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No." in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harper's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to info found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015

Everybody knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?








Jody Wilson-Raybould resigns from cabinet in wake of SNC-Lavalin allegations

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau stressed Monday that he had 'full confidence' in Wilson-Raybould​


Jody Wilson-Raybould, the former Attorney General of Canada, has resigned from cabinet. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)



Jody Wilson-Raybould — the former justice minister who has kept largely silent since a news report claimed the Prime Minister's Office pressured her to help Quebec-based engineering firm SNC-Lavalin avoid criminal prosecution — has resigned from cabinet.

She tweeted a link to her resignation letter this morning.

"With a heavy heart I am writing to tender my resignation as the Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence," she wrote.







"When I sought federal elected office, it was with the goal of implementing a positive and progressive vision of change on behalf of all Canadians and a different way of doing poltics."

Wilson-Raybould, who was shuffled to the Veterans Affairs portfolio in January, has been under intense scrutiny since a Globe and Mail report alleged last week that the PMO wanted her to direct federal prosecutors to make a "deferred prosecution agreement" (DPA) to avoid taking SNC-Lavalin to trial on bribery and fraud charges in relation to contracts in Libya.

Wilson-Raybould, who plans to stay on as MP for Vancouver-Granville, has been quiet since the story broke, saying she can't comment because she's bound by solicitor-client privilege.

In her resignation letter, she said she has retained the services of lawyer Thomas Cromwell, a former justice of the Supreme Court of Canada, to advise her on "topics that I am legally permitted to discuss on this matter."

In an email to CBC News, Cromwell said he would not be making any statements or doing any interviews.

A spokesperson for MP Francis Scarpaleggia, chair of the national Liberal caucus, said that as of Tuesday morning, Wilson-Raybould hadn't left caucus.

Ethics investigation launched


Her resignation marks a significant turning point in the emerging SNC-Lavalin affair.

Just a day earlier, Prime Minster Justin Trudeau told reporters he continues "to have full confidence in Jody."

He also insisted that he did not direct Wilson-Raybould to come to any specific conclusions on whether to direct the Public Prosecution Service of Canada to reach an agreement with SNC-Lavalin.

"She confirmed for me a conversation we had this fall, where I told her directly that any decisions on matters involving the director of public prosecutions were hers alone," Trudeau said Monday.

"I respect her view that, due to privilege, she can't comment or add on matters recently before the media. I also highlight that we're bound by cabinet confidentiality. In our system of governance, her presence in cabinet should speak for itself."
Wilson-Raybould's resignation likely will cast a shadow over the upcoming election campaign. So will a recently-launched probe by the federal ethics commissioner.

On Monday, Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion informed the NDP MPs who had requested an investigation that there is sufficient cause to proceed with an inquiry into Trudeau's actions in the case.

Responding to a letter from NDP MPs, Dion said he would investigate the prime minister personally for a possible contravention of Section 9 of the Conflict of Interest Act, which prohibits any official responsible for high-level decision-making in government from seeking to influence the decision of another person so as to "improperly further another person's private interests."

SNC-Lavalin faces charges of fraud and corruption in connection with nearly $48 million in payments made to Libyan government officials between 2001 and 2011.

The company has pleaded not guilty.

If convicted, the company could be blocked from competing for federal government contracts for a decade.

The case is still at the preliminary hearing stage.

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Cochrane  1-705-465-1315


Cordiales salutations,

Charlie Angus

Député de Timmins - Baie James



---------- Original message ----------
From: Elizabeth.May@parl.gc.ca
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 17:50:40 +0000
Subject: Thank you for contacting the Office of Elizabeth May, O.C., M.P
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for contacting me. This response is to assure you that your
message has been received. I welcome and appreciate receiving comments
and questions from constituents.

I receive a much larger volume of correspondence (postal and email)
than the average MP. All emails are reviewed on a regular basis,
however due to the high volume of emails my office receives, I may not
be able to respond personally to each one.

My constituents in Saanich-Gulf Islands are my highest priority. If
you are a constituent, please email
elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca<mailto:elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca>. To
help me serve you better, please ensure that your email includes your
full name and street address with your postal code.


For meeting requests and invitations, please email
requests@greenparty.carequests@greenparty.ca
>.

Thank you once again for contacting me.



Elizabeth May, O.C.

Member of Parliament

Saanich - Gulf Islands

Leader of the Green Party of Canada

--

Je vous remercie d'avoir communiqué avec moi. La présente réponse vous
confirme que votre message a été reçu. Les questions et les
commentaires des électeurs sont toujours les bienvenus.

Je reçois une correspondance (postale et électronique) beaucoup plus
abondante que le député type. Tous les messages électroniques sont lus
régulièrement, mais, en raison de l'abondance des courriels reçus à
mon bureau, il se peut que je ne sois pas en mesure de répondre
personnellement à chacun d'entre eux.

Mes électeurs de Saanich-Gulf Islands passent en premier. Si vous êtes
un électeur, veuillez écrire à
elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca<mailto:elizabeth.may.c1a@parl.gc.ca>.
Pour m'aider à mieux vous servir, veillez à ce que votre courriel
comporte votre nom complet, votre adresse municipale et votre code
postal.

Pour les demandes de rencontre et les invitations, veuillez écrire à
requests@greenparty.carequests@greenparty.ca>.

Je vous remercie encore d'avoir communiqué avec moi.


Elizabeth May, O.C.

Députée à la Chambre des communes

Saanich-Gulf Islands

Chef du Parti vert du Canada




---------- Original message ----------From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:50:13 -0400
Subject: The Honourable Thomas Albert Cromwell can never deny that I
tried to inform him of what the RCMP, the CBC and his latest client
Jody Wilson-Raybould knows Correct Me Butts?
To: TCromwell@blg.com, catharine.tunney@cbc.ca,
Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca,
JagmeetForBurnaby@ndp.ca, maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca,
charlie.angus@parl.gc.ca, elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca,
Hunter.Tootoo@parl.gc.ca, tony.clement.a1@parl.gc.ca,
hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca,
Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca,
jp.lewis@unb.ca, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, David.Akin@globalnews.ca,
steve.murphy@ctv.ca, Newsroom@globeandmail.com, news@kingscorecord.com


---------- Original message ----------
From: Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:07:59 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE:: DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HMQ - COURT FILE
NO.: A-48-16 , Attn Lorri Warner have you and your bosses talked the
RCMP and the FBI YET???
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for writing to the Honourable Jody Wilson-Raybould, Member
of Parliament for Vancouver Granville.

This message is to acknowledge that we are in receipt of your email.
Due to the significant increase in the volume of correspondence, there
may be a delay in processing your email. Rest assured that your
message will be carefully reviewed.

To help us address your concerns more quickly, please include within
the body of your email your full name, address, and postal code.



Thank you

-------------------

Merci d'?crire ? l'honorable Jody Wilson-Raybould, d?put?e de
Vancouver Granville.

Le pr?sent message vise ? vous informer que nous avons re?u votre
courriel. En raison d'une augmentation importante du volume de
correspondance, il pourrait y avoir un retard dans le traitement de
votre courriel. Sachez que votre message sera examin? attentivement.

Pour nous aider ? r?pondre ? vos pr?occupations plus rapidement,
veuillez inclure dans le corps de votre courriel votre nom complet,
votre adresse et votre code postal.



Merci


The Honourable Thomas Albert Cromwell C.C.
Senior Counsel

    Phone: 604.632.3460
    Fax: 604.662.5327
    TCromwell@blg.com

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wilson-rayboul-snc-lavalin-1.5015755

Jody Wilson-Raybould resigns from cabinet after SNC-Lavalin allegations

Catharine Tunney · CBC News · Posted: Feb 12, 2019 11:39 AM ET

"Wilson-Raybould, who plans to stay on as MP for Vancouver-Granville,
has been quiet since the Globe and Mail story broke, saying she can't
comment because she's bound by solicitor-client privilege.

In her resignation letter, she said she has retained the services of
lawyer Thomas Cromwell, a former justice of the Supreme Court of
Canada, to advise her on "topics that I am legally permitted to
discuss on this matter."

In an email to CBC News, Cromwell said he would not be making any
statements or doing any interviews."

>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"<Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:05:07 +0000
> Subject: RE: So what does Premier Gallant and Minister Doucet et al
> think of my lawsuit? How about David Coon and his blogging buddy
> Chucky joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.
> Please be assured that your email has been received, will be reviewed,
> and a response will be forthcoming.
> Once again, thank you for taking the time to write.
>
> Merci d'avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.
> Soyez assuré que votre courriel a bien été reçu, qu'il sera examiné
> et qu'une réponse vous sera acheminée.
> Merci encore d'avoir pris de temps de nous écrire.
>
> Sincerely, / Sincèrement,
> Mallory Fowler
> Correspondence Manager / Gestionnaire de la correspondance
> Office of the Premier / Cabinet du premier ministre
>
>
> On 1/19/18, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Good Day Sir
>>>
>>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>>
>>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>>
>>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>>> suggested that you study closely.
>>>
>>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>>
>>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>>
>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>>
>>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>>
>>> April 3rd, 2017
>>>
>>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>>
>>>
>>> The only hearing thus far
>>>
>>> May 24th, 2017
>>>
>>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>>
>>>
>>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>>
>>> Date: 20151223
>>>
>>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>>
>>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>>
>>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>>
>>> BETWEEN:
>>>
>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>>
>>> Plaintiff
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>>
>>> Defendant
>>>
>>> ORDER
>>>
>>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>>> December 14, 2015)
>>>
>>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>>> in its entirety.
>>>
>>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
>>> he stated:
>>>
>>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>>
>>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>>> Police.
>>>
>>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>>
>>>
>>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
>>> is no order as to costs.
>>>
>>> “B. Richard Bell”
>>> Judge
>>>
>>>
>>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>>
>>>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
>>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
>>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
>>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>>
>>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>>> most
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>>> dudes are way past too late
>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>>
>>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>>
>>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>>
>>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Merci ,
>>>
>>>
>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>
>>> January 13, 2015
>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>
>>> December 8, 2014
>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>
>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>>
>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>>
>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>>> campaign of 2006.
>>>
>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>>
>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>>
>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>>
>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>>
>>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>>
>>> Subject:
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)"MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>
>>> January 30, 2007
>>>
>>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>>
>>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>>
>>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>>> Minister of Health
>>>
>>> CM/cb
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>>> From: "Warren McBeath"warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON"bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> "Paul Dube"PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>>
>>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>>
>>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>>
>>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>>
>>>  Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>>> Traffic Services NCO
>>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>>> fax: 506-444-5224
>>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 AM
>>> Subject: RE My complaint against the CROWN in Federal Court Attn David
>>> Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to submit a motion for a
>>> publication ban on my complaint trust that you dudes are way past too
>>> late
>>> To: David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca, peter.mackay@justice.gc.ca
>>> peacock.kurt@telegraphjournal.com, mclaughlin.heather@dailygleaner.com,
>>> david.akin@sunmedia.ca, robert.frater@justice.gc.ca,
>>> paul.riley@ppsc-sppc.gc.ca,
>>> greg@gregdelbigio.com, joyce.dewitt-vanoosten@gov.bc.ca,
>>> joan.barrett@ontario.ca, jean-vincent.lacroix@gouv.qc.ca,
>>> peter.rogers@mcinnescooper.com, mfeder@mccarthy.ca, mjamal@osler.com
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, gopublic@cbc.ca,
>>> Whistleblower@ctv.ca
>>>
>>> https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/14439/index.do
>>>
>>> http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/WebDocuments-DocumentsWeb/35072/FM030_Respondent_Attorney-General-of-Canada-on-Behalf-of-the-United-States-of-America.pdf
>>>
>>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-brazilian.html
>>>
>>> I repeat what the Hell do I do with the Yankee wiretapes taps sell
>>> them on Ebay or listen to them and argue them with you dudes in
>>> Feferal Court?
>>>
>>> Petey Baby loses all parliamentary privelges in less than a month but
>>> he still supposed to be an ethical officer of the Court CORRECT?
>>>
>>> Veritas Vincit
>>> David Raymond Amos
>>> 902 800 0369
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0400
>>> Subject: Yo Mr Bauer say hey to your client Obama and his buddies in
>>> the USDOJ for me will ya?
>>> To: RBauer@perkinscoie.com, sshimshak@paulweiss.com,
>>> cspada@lswlaw.com, msmith@svlaw.com, bginsberg@pattonboggs.com,
>>> gregory.craig@skadden.com, pm@pm.gc.ca, bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> bob.rae@rogers.blackberry.net, MulcaT@parl.gc.caleader@greenparty.ca
>>> Cc: alevine@cooley.com, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
>>> michael.rothfeld@wsj.com, remery@ecbalaw.com
>>>
>>> QSLS Politics
>>> By Location Visit Detail
>>> Visit 29,419
>>> Domain Name usdoj.gov ? (U.S. Government)
>>> IP Address 149.101.1.# (US Dept of Justice)
>>> ISP US Dept of Justice
>>> Location Continent : North America
>>> Country : United States (Facts)
>>> State : District of Columbia
>>> City : Washington
>>> Lat/Long : 38.9097, -77.0231 (Map)
>>> Language English (U.S.) en-us
>>> Operating System Microsoft WinXP
>>> Browser Internet Explorer 8.0
>>> Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET
>>> CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2;
>>> DI60SP1001)
>>> Javascript version 1.3
>>> Monitor Resolution : 1024 x 768
>>> Color Depth : 32 bits
>>> Time of Visit Nov 17 2012 6:33:08 pm
>>> Last Page View Nov 17 2012 6:33:08 pm
>>> Visit Length 0 seconds
>>> Page Views 1
>>> Referring URL http://www.google.co...wwWJrm94lCEqRmovPXJg
>>> Search Engine google.com
>>> Search Words david amos bernie madoff
>>> Visit Entry Page http://qslspolitics....-wendy-olsen-on.html
>>> Visit Exit Page http://qslspolitics....-wendy-olsen-on.html
>>> Out Click
>>> Time Zone UTC-5:00
>>> Visitor's Time Nov 17 2012 12:33:08 pm
>>> Visit Number 29,419
>>>
>>> http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Could ya tell I am investigating your pension plan bigtime? Its
>>> because no member of the RCMP I have ever encountered has earned it yet
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:36:04 -0400
>>> Subject: This is a brief as I can make my concerns Randy
>>> To:  randyedmunds@gov.nl.ca
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> In a nutshell my concerns about the actions of the Investment Industry
>>> affect the interests of every person in every district of every
>>> country not just the USA and Canada. I was offering to help you with
>>> Emera because my work with them and Danny Williams is well known and
>>> some of it is over eight years old and in the PUBLIC Record.
>>>
>>> All you have to do is stand in the Legislature and ask the MInister of
>>> Justice why I have been invited to sue Newfoundland by the
>>> Conservatives
>>>
>>>
>>> Obviously I am the guy the USDOJ and the SEC would not name who is the
>>> link to Madoff and Putnam Investments
>>>
>>> Here is why
>>>
>>> http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=90f8e691-9065-4f8c-a465-72722b47e7f2
>>>
>>> Notice the transcripts and webcasts of the hearing of the US Senate
>>> Banking Commitee are still missing? Mr Emory should at least notice
>>> Eliot Spitzer and the Dates around November 20th, 2003 in the
>>> following file
>>>
>>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf
>>>
>>> http://occupywallst.org/users/DavidRaymondAmos/
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Hansen, David"David.Hansen@justice.gc.ca
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:28:44 +0000
>>> Subject: RE: I just called again Mr Hansen
>>> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Hello Mr. Amos,
>>>
>>> I manage the Justice Canada civil litigation section in the Atlantic
>>> region.  We are only responsible for litigating existing civil
>>> litigation files in which the Attorney General of Canada is a named
>>> defendant or plaintiff.  If you are a plaintiff or defendant in an
>>> existing civil litigation matter in the Atlantic region in which
>>> Attorney General of Canada is a named defendant or plaintiff please
>>> provide the court file number, the names of the parties in the action
>>> and your question.  I am not the appropriate contact for other
>>> matters.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:23:24 -0300
>>>> Subject: ATTN FBI Special Agent Richard Deslauriers Have you talked to
>>>> your buddies Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly about the wiretap tapes YET?
>>>> To: boston@ic.fbi.gov, washington.field@ic.fbi.gov,
>>>> bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>>> Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov,
>>>> jcarney@carneybassil.com, bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net
>>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, birgittaj@althingi.is,
>>>> shmurphy@globe.com, redicecreations@gmail.com
>>>>
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>>>> office at (617) 742-5533.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:20:20 -0300
>>>> Subject: Yo Fred Wyshak and Brian Kelly your buddy Whitey's trial is
>>>> finally underway now correct? What the hell do I do with the wiretap
>>>> tapes Sell them on Ebay?
>>>> To: Brian.Kelly@usdoj.gov, us.marshals@usdoj.gov,
>>>> Fred.Wyshak@usdoj.gov, jcarney@carneybassil.com,
>>>> bbachrach@bachrachlaw.net, wolfheartlodge@live.com, shmurphy@globe.com,
>>>> >> jonathan.albano@bingham.commvalencia@globe.com
>>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>>>> PATRICK.MURPHY@dhs.gov, rounappletree@aol.com
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/06/05/james-whitey-bulger-jury-selection-process-enters-second-day/KjS80ofyMMM5IkByK74bkK/story.html
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>>>
>>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must ask
>>>> them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>>>
>>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>>> cards?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>>>>
>>>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly2006
>>>>
>>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>>>
>>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>>>
>>>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>>>
>>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>>> United States Senate
>>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>>
>>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>>> raised in the attached letter.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>>> tapes.
>>>>
>>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>>
>>>> Very truly yours,
>>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
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>>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Amos"david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>> To: "Rob Talach"rtalach@ledroitbeckett.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Attn Robert Talach and I should talk ASAP about my suing
>>>> the Catholic Church Trust that Bastarache knows why
>>>>
>>>> The date stamp on about page 134 of this old file of mine should mean
>>>> a lot to you
>>>>
>>>> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2619437-CROSS-BORDER-txt-.pdf
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:37:08 -0400
>>>> Subject: To Hell with the KILLER COP Gilles Moreau What say you NOW
>>>> Bernadine Chapman??
>>>> To: Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, phil.giles@statcan.ca,
>>>> maritme_malaise@yahoo.ca, Jennifer.Nixon@ps-sp.gc.ca,
>>>> bartman.heidi@psic-ispc.gc.ca, Yves.J.Marineau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>>> david.paradiso@erc-cee.gc.ca, desaulniea@smtp.gc.ca,
>>>> denise.brennan@tbs-sct.gc.ca, anne.murtha@vac-acc.gc.ca,
>>>> webo@xplornet.com, julie.dickson@osfi-bsif.gc.ca,
>>>> rod.giles@osfi-bsif.gc.ca, flaherty.j@parl.gc.ca, toewsv1@parl.gc.ca,
>>>> Nycole.Turmel@parl.gc.ca,Clemet1@parl.gc.ca, maritime_malaise@yahoo.ca,
>>>> >> oig@sec.gov, whistleblower@finra.org, whistle@fsa.gov.uk,
>>>> david@fairwhistleblower.ca
>>>> Cc: j.kroes@interpol.int, david.raymond.amos@gmail.com,
>>>> bernadine.chapman@rcmp-grc.gc.cajustin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca,
>>>> Juanita.Peddle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>>>> Wayne.Lang@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, Robert.Trevors@gnb.ca,
>>>> ian.fahie@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nb/news-nouvelles/media-medias-eng.htm
>>>>
>>>> http://nb.rcmpvet.ca/Newsletters/VetsReview/nlnov06.pdf
>>>>
>>>> From: Gilles Moreau Gilles.Moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:03:22 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: Lets ee if the really nasty Newfy Lawyer Danny Boy
>>>> Millions will explain this email to you or your boss Vic Toews EH
>>>> Constable Peddle???
>>>> To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Please cease and desist from using my name in your emails.
>>>>
>>>> Gilles Moreau, Chief Superintendent, CHRP and ACC
>>>> Director General
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>>>> 73 Leikin Drive, M5-2-502
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>>>>
>>>> Tel 613-843-6039
>>>> Cel 613-818-6947
>>>>
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>>>> Directeur général de la Transformation des ressources humaines
>>>> 73 Leikin, pièce M5-2-502
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>>>>
>>>> tél 613-843-6039
>>>> cel 613-818-6947
>>>> gilles.moreau@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>
>>
>









NB Power debt claim to MLAs appears to be untrue

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Methinks the EUB needs to explain to me how Mr Jones got a tape of a hearing to play on the radio while I have been denied the right to have a tape of my words that were improperly transcribed N'esy Pas?




https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-debt-presentation-mlas-untrue-1.5015174



NB Power debt claim to MLAs appears to be untrue



40 Comments



David Amos
David Amos
Methinks the EUB's lawyer Ellen Desmond needs to explain to me how Mr Jones got a tape of a hearing and play it on the radio while I have been denied the right to have a tape of my own words that have been transcribed for the EUB improperly N'esy Pas?

"At hearings last April, Ellen Desmond, the EUB's lawyer, questioned Darren Murphy, NB Power vice-president, in detail about whether the utility's profits are too low and its debt retirement schedule too slow.

She suggested the utility consider reducing its spending to generate higher profits in years its financial projections are coming up short.

"Why not perhaps delay spending where necessary to meet other objectives, including your reduction in net debt which we have heard a lot about in the last three years," said Desmond.

"I mean if that is a priority, if that is a target, why not perhaps adjust the plan? Why not adjust that so that we can see reduction -- larger reductions on the net debt?"







Paul Bourgoin 
Shawn Tabor
What a bunch of B/S, and they know it. Need Premier Ford to get rid of a few at the TOP.


Harold Benson
Harold Benson
@Shawn Tabor Might be a problem with the arrogance there. Seems like they tell the Gov't what to do and where to go, like most crown corporations.

T.J. Jacob
T.J. Jacob
@Shawn Tabor I fail to see how Ford can do anything as he's the premier of Ontario and not New Brunswick...

Alexandre Hilton
Alexandre Hilton
@T.J. Jacob What a great ostrich impression!

David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn Tabor YUP

David Amos
David Amos
@Alexandre Hilton "What a great ostrich impression!"

Methinks you are pretty good at it too N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@T.J. Jacob Methinks you know as well as I that is not what my friend meant N'esy Pas?








Paul Bourgoin 
Aaron Allison
Time for a Forensic Audit by the AG, and Time to clean house starting at the top.


David Amos
David Amos
@Aaron Allison "Time for a Forensic Audit by the AG"

I have been saying that for years and It was recorded by the EUB last week as NB Power was having me booted again as an Intervener. I have the transcript now lets see if they will give me a copy of the tape of what I said this time








Paul Bourgoin 
Ned MacAllister
N.B. Power is top heavy in snouts in the trough. Clean house and promote from within around the $135,000 to $160,000 range.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ned MacAllister I agree








Paul Bourgoin 
Roy Kirk
Standard operating procedure for this bunch. When before the regulator, you blame the politicians and their interference for your inability to perform. When before the politicians you blame the regulator! The one thing you never, ever do is accept any blame yourself. :-(


David Amos
David Amos
@Roy Kirk I agree








Paul Bourgoin 
June Arnott
Gaetan Thomas doesn’t seem to have any clue as to what is going on. When are we ever going to get someone in charge who knows what’s going on and will take action?


David Amos
David Amos
@June Arnott Likely never. Methinks if they appointed an ethical soul with two clues between his ears the politicians would lose their cash cow N'esy Pas?









Paul Bourgoin 
Paul Bourgoin
Who, Why, or what is holding back NB-POWER from making profits?
Who benefited from NB-Power decision of loosing, limiting NB electricity Profits?
Who within the NB government initiated and approved such a money loosing deal?
Where is the paper work?
Who will pay the costs of such public generosity? Joe Public or his children?


David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Its all Pure D BS

Dan Flanagan
Dan Flanagan
@Paul Bourgoin
Politicians are responsible because they don't want to lose votes due to rate increases. NB Power is also to blame because they are mostly ex-politicians. How can you run a viable corporation with people that have no financial experience?
At a modest 6% interest rate, just paying the interest costs $276 million a year.

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Paul Bourgoin
Politicians rigged NBPower to not show profit.
Friends/ backers of politicians/ party benefit.
Government of that day.
The paperwork has been shredded and thrown out.
Residential clients (Joe Public and their future progeny) will always pay.

David Amos
David Amos
@Rosco holt Methinks all the politicians know I have been doing my best to expose it the corruption of NB Power within the EUB while everyone laughs at my efforts but I may get the last laugh when I put the issues before a real court N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos Methinks Mr Higgs and his Minister Mr Holland should have noticed long ago that my friend Roger Richard and I are not laughing in this photo N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearings-nb-power-smart-meters-1.4529640








Paul Bourgoin 
Dan Flanagan
Politicians are responsible because they don't want to lose votes due to rate increases. NB Power is also to blame because they are mostly ex-politicians. How can you run a viable corporation with people that have no financial experience?
At a modest 6% interest rate, just paying the interest costs $294 million a year.


David Amos
David Amos
@Dan Flanagan "At a modest 6% interest rate, just paying the interest costs $294 million a year."

Methinks that is not chump change but they are making a lot of chumps pay it At least the EUB knows that I am one chump who does not appreciate their malicious antics against me N'esy Pas?









Paul Bourgoin 
Paul Bourgoin
NB POWER should be obligated to make public all customers, commercial, Industrial or Residential that receive from NB POWER a special cheaper rate for their electricity and who authorized the sweetheart deal..


David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin The Yankees know the score ask Wilbur Ross











Jef Cronkhite 
Jef Cronkhite
Is anyone else sick and tired of NB Power's consistent mismanagement and ridiculous excuses? Forget the EUB, we need a civilian oversight panel with the power to over-rule Thomas and his "Old Boys Club". Government oversight is quite obviously FAILING.....


Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Jef Cronkhite
"Government oversight is quite obviously FAILING....."
Government is the problem.

David Amos
David Amos
@Rosco holt BINGO









stephen blunston 
stephen blunston
lets get rid of Thomas and all the fools running things in Fredericton be fired and replaced with someone who knows what they are doing, because after all this time and they keep saying the same BS but keep giving themselves raises and bonuses for not doing their jobs and making their targets . sick and tired of no one being held accountable at this crown corp


David Amos
David Amos
@stephen blunston " sick and tired of no one being held accountable at this crown corp"

Methinks you are not alone N'esy Pas?










Repair Guy 
Repair Guy
So maybe Mr. Thomas and NBPower could help rate payers out and explain which parts of his statements we are supposed to believe/take literally and which parts we can ignore. Thanks!


David Amos
David Amos 
 @Repair Guy Methinks it would be easier to merely boil things down and believe nothing he says N'esy Pas?

For instance do you really think Thomas is going to consult with us about smart meters when his lawyer informed the EUB last week that they will making another stab at it with them in short order?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/smart-meters-nb-power-1.4973785

NB Power launches PR campaign for revived smart meter plan
CBC News · Posted: Jan 10, 2019 7:19 PM AT

135 comments

David R. Amos
@Stephanie Haslam I repeat folks need to download the transcripts of the EUB hearings from last year if they are truly concerned about smart meter coming to New Brunswick (BTW they are already in Saint John)

David R. Amos
@Stephanie Haslam Please pay particular attention to the work of my friend Roger Richard

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-hearing-eub-1.4544322

"Several self-represented participants have been taking turns questioning NB Power's plans on an equal footing with lawyers hired by companies, like J.D. Irving Ltd. and Enbridge Gas New Brunswick, and municipal utilities like Saint John Energy.

Gently guided on proper procedure by Beaulieu, non-professional participants have had free rein to have a say.

Anti-smart meter activist and St. Louis de Kent dentist Roger Richard, left, and environmentalist Daniel LeBlanc spent hours questioning NB Power witnesses. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

Those participants include environmentalist Chris Rouse, anti-smart meter activist and St. Louis de Kent dentist Roger Richard and political hopeful Gerald Bourque, the leader of the fledgling KISS N.B. Political Party.

They've been able to submit evidence, call witnesses and cross-examine NB Power executives and others and make motions."










Fred Brewer 
Fred Brewer
It's been 35 years since the regulator ordered NB Power to bring all of its customer categories in line with the true cost of providing power. In other words the regulator wanted NB Power to end the practice where they charge some customers high rates so that other customers can be subsidized.

35 years later, not much headway has been made. This proves to me that NB Power can flagrantly disobey the regulator without any consequences. This has to stop now! What is the point of having a regulator if the regulator's orders can be ignored?


David Amos
David Amos
@Fred Brewer Methinks folks should wonder if the taxpayers in Fat Fred City have noticed how much they pay to keep the streets lights on around the Legislature and the NB Power HQ N'esy Pas?










Paul Bourgoin 
Lou Bell
There was a Committee that Higgs disbanded last week that appear to have had the same financial qualifications as Thomas ! Also Government appointed !


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell What else is new










Paul Bourgoin 
Lou Bell
Over 500,000 dollars a year to Thomas whose legacy will be for flooding the lower Saint John River Valley annually. I'll volunteer to do it for half of that !


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks folks should have no doubt that you would enjoy it too much N'esy Pas?





NB Power debt claim to MLAs appears to be untrue

Utility can't say who made the statement its president referenced


NB Power President Gaetan Thomas said even modest profit targets are frowned on by the Energy and Utilities Board. (CBC)

NB Power president Gaetan Thomas's claim to MLAs that the Energy and Utilities Board once told the utility profits should be kept below $80 million, despite its need to pay off debt, appears to be untrue.

The EUB has never issued a directive to NB Power to keep earnings below $80 million and the utility has been unable to explain who made the statement Thomas is referring to or when, if ever, it was said.

Thomas, chairman Ed Barrett and other NB Power executives made a presentation on Jan. 5 to the legislature's Crown corporations committee to discuss the utility's latest financial results and MLAs questioned them about NB Power's debt problems.


Both Barrett and Thomas told the committee the Energy and Utilities Board has stood in the way of the utility earning sufficient profits to substantially reduce its $4.9 billion debt load, instead forcing it to keep rates low.
Thomas said even modest profit targets are frowned on by the EUB.

"Every time we're confronted with a low rate," Thomas told MLAs.

"That is the dominant factor for the regulator. Even if we can show, lets say, we can make say $80 million earnings the point is they say you don't really need that much earnings."

However, all profit requests NB Power management has made to the EUB in the last four years have been approved, three for more than $80 million, the amount Thomas claims the EUB has said is too much.


NB Power has been unable to explain who made the statement its president is referring to or when, if ever, it was said. (Michael Heenan/CBC)
Heather Black has represented the public at NB Power's last four rate hearings and says the utility has set its own profit target each year and has never had any part of the amounts rejected by the EUB.

"In each case, the board has approved NB Power's proposed earnings in the full amount NB Power requested," Black wrote in an email to CBC News. 

Marc Belliveau, a spokesman for NB Power, said in an email the comment Thomas made about the EUB telling the utility an $80 million profit is too high should not be taken literally.

"I don't have a transcript of the (MLA) proceedings but this was a general statement/example not a specific one," he wrote.
It's the second statement Thomas has made in the last month that has needed clarification, and both were in relation to the utility's debt problem.

In January, Thomas told CBC News that NB Power is applying for a $36 million rate increase for the next fiscal year to help generate a profit and "most of it would go to debt reduction".

But NB Power figures show the utility is planning no debt reduction next year, even with a rate increase. Expected profits at the utility are budgeted to be spent on capital projects with none applied to its $4.9 billion debt.

It is scheduled to increase by $6 million.

NB Power has failed to meet  earnings targets in each of the last four years, mostly because expenses have been higher than anticipated, but the EUB has never opposed the targets themselves.
The board approved a combined $329.5 million in profit over the four-year period but NB Power expects to generate less than 25 percent of that — just $71.3 million - once the current year is factored in.

Black says NB Power's failure to pay down its debt is not a problem with the EUB.

"While the board cuts NB Power's proposed spending where it determines that the spending is imprudent, this has not been the cause of NB Power's failure to meet its earnings targets," said Black, citing performance problems at Lepreau, unbudgeted storm damage and other issues.

"NB Power's earnings erode when its costs are over budget or when it fails to earn its budgeted revenue."

The EUB is declining to comment but the organization has openly expressed concerns about NB Power's debt in the past.


Heather Black, the public intervener, said the EUB has never rejected any part of the utility's profit targets in the last four rate hearings. (Robert Jones/CBC)
At hearings last April, Ellen Desmond, the EUB's lawyer, questioned Darren Murphy, NB Power vice-president, in detail about whether the utility's profits are too low and its debt retirement schedule too slow.

She suggested the utility consider reducing its spending to generate higher profits in years its financial projections are coming up short.

"Why not perhaps delay spending where necessary to meet other objectives, including your reduction in net debt which we have heard a lot about in the last three years," said Desmond.

"I mean if that is a priority, if that is a target, why not perhaps adjust the plan? Why not adjust that so that we can see reduction -- larger reductions on the net debt?"

NB Power' Belliveau said in an email the utility believes rate hearings focus too much on questioning spending and not enough on the bottom line.

"The underlying tone of recent rate hearings has been focused on low and stable rates as opposed to a more balanced view," said Belliveau.

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Longtime MLA Denis Landry elected interim Liberal leader

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Methinks the members of Canada's Natural Governing Party are suffering through a winter of much discontent throughout our native land N'esy Pas?





https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/liberal-leader-interim-elected-1.5015557



Longtime MLA Denis Landry elected interim Liberal leader



49 Comments



Harold Benson 
Harold Benson
His entourage looks impressed too.


David Amos
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David Amos
@Harold Benson Methinks the members of Canada's Natural Governing Party are suffering through a winter of much discontent throughout our native land N'esy Pas?





David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
Methinks its blatantly obvious byway of all the other comments that the SANB approves of Denis Landry being the latest liberal boss Surprise Surprise Surpise N'esy Pas?






Colin Seeley
Colin Seeley
A familiar looking group :

Doc- Grumpy- Happy- Sleepy- Bashful - Sneezy, - Dopey-

Need 2 more names


David Amos
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David Amos
Colin Seeley






Graeme Scott 
Graeme Scott
Pretty somber looking bunch in that photo.

David Amos
David Amos
@Graeme Scott YUP









Harold Benson 
Harold Benson
Ok we'll talk about JT instead.


David Amos
David Amos
@Harold Benson I presume "we" means you and Sam









Colin Seeley 
Jim Cyr
I count 10 males and only 2 females in that photo. If it was a photo of Tories, that unequal breakdown would lead to front page hysteria across Canada for a month.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Cyr Of that i have no doubt as well









Colin Seeley 
Cleve Gallant
Well if Landry thinks anything like Shawn boy and Brian boy I don’t want nothing to do with him !!!!


David Amos
David Amos
@Cleve Gallant Nor I









Colin Seeley 
Lou Bell
" There are people who felt a little bit set aside " says the SANB spokesman. Wonder who ??


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell I will give you 3 guesses and the first two stooges won't count as much as the third.










Colin Seeley 
Jim Cyr
Well, it looks like the CBC censors don't want any one to point out the stunningly obvious.....the Libs have yet again chosen a white male. I guess hypocrisy is not to be discussed in polite company?? Jeez.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Cyr Who cares?









Colin Seeley 
michael levesque
gerry lowe should take some of his fat mla check and buy a shirt and tie


David Amos
David Amos
@michael levesque Why?








Colin Seeley 
michael levesque
will he pay back to the new brunswick taxpayer the $21,000 he paid to liberal friend eric allaby to do a ferry report. a report that could have been done free of charge to the new bruswick taxpayer by any number of people working in the dept of transportation in which he was the minister. clearly a waste of taxpayers money


David Amos
David Amos
@michael levesque I bet he won't









Matt Steele 
Matt Steele
So does this make Denis Landry the head of the SANB as well since the N.B. Liberal Party and the SANB appear to be one and the same . At least if Landry gets jammed up legally , maybe Trudeau can have the charges dropped , and then throw his Justice Minister under the bus by demoting her to Veterans Affairs .


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Matt Steele

Well at least he wouldn't be part of a hate group.
Higgs = CoR
Kris Austin = Anglo Society

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Cry me a river

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Steele Catch up she just quit










Colin Seeley 
Mack Leigh
What a sad , sad looking bunch !!! Hopefully we have seen the last of these scoundrels " leading " our province..


Matt Steele
Matt Steele
@Mack Leigh .....Yes , they certainly do appear pretty glum in that photo....Premier Higgs must have drained their taxpayer funded trough after Gallant lost the election for them .

Paul Bourgoin
Paul Bourgoin
@Mack Leigh
Who do you think leads this province?
Politicians??????????????????

Cleve Gallant
Cleve Gallant
@Paul Bourgoin Don’t know but you can fill us in ,

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh

Kris Austin and Higgs are gone ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Steele "Premier Higgs must have drained their taxpayer funded trough after Gallant lost the election for them"

Nope

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Kris Austin and Higgs are gone ?"

Dream on










Colin Seeley 
Troy Murray
Oink oink, lead us to the trough


David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Murray Tut Tut Tut Now play nicey nicey











Colin Seeley 
Gabriel Boucher
Quite a resume. A cabinet minister for Shawn Graham's government and a justice minister for Gallant's government. What could possibly go wrong... *sarcasm*


David Amos
David Amos
@Gabriel Boucher "What could possibly go wrong"

Methinks the temporary leader of the opposition could not make something go wrong even if he wanted to He can only expose the wrongs or continue to cover them up N'esy Pas? *NO sarcasm*










Harold Benson 
Harold Benson
Scraping the bottom pretty hard.....


Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Harold Benson

I would say they have now gone subterranean !!

David Amos
David Amos
@Harold Benson Methinks Sam can name a few who would be much worse at the job N'esy Pas?









Colin Seeley 
Marc LeBlanc
I can't think of anything funny to say...
can I get some help here?


Stephen Long
Stephen Long
@Marc LeBlanc I know Marc, why not say something controversial instead?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc LeBlanc Welcome to the circus just sit back and enjoy the show









Colin Seeley 
Lou Bell
Atcon / Franco Phonie Games . Must be some hidden " unfinished business " we haven't yet heard about ! Surprised SANB Prof Savoie wasn't named !


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Lou Bell

Gallant was part of Atcon ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell "Must be some hidden " unfinished business " we haven't yet heard about"

Methinks you know as well as I that its my lawsuit in Federal Court N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276





Longtime MLA Denis Landry elected interim Liberal leader

Denis Landry was first elected in 1995 and served as a justice minister in the Brian Gallant government


Denis Landry was chosen interim Liberal leader Tuesday by fellow MLAs in the party. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

The only member of the legislature who served alongside former premier Frank McKenna is the new interim leader of the New Brunswick Liberal Party.

Denis Landry, first elected as the MLA for Centre-Péninsule in 1995, when McKenna won his third and last majority, will lead the party until Liberal members choose a new leader on June 22.

He replaces former premier Brian Gallant, who officially resigned as leader Tuesday.


Landry said his priority will be to boost the morale of party members still smarting over the failure to win a majority in last September's election.
"There are people who felt a bit left aside for whatever reason, and that's what I'm going to do — go talk to people on the ground and see what we can do to put party members in a good mood," he said.

The former logger, known around the legislature for his plainspoken manner, said he was looking forward to the challenge.

"I've never been afraid of work. I enjoy hard work."

Although he'll hold the leadership for only a short time, Landry would not rule out trying to engineer the defeat of the Progressive Conservative minority government this spring.

"That's something we'll have to figure out. We'll go through the session … and from there we'll see what happens. It's hard for me to predict what's going to happen. The budget could be so good or so bad. We'll have to decide as a caucus what we're going to do."


Former New Brunswick Premier Brian Gallant resigned officially as leader of the Liberal Party on Tuesday. (James West/The Canadian Press)
He said his biggest concerns about the March 19 budget are potential cuts. He pointed to more than $200 million in cancelled infrastructure spending in the PC capital budget delivered in December.

"Is there a need to do that? As far as I'm concerned, no," he said, noting the Liberal government ran a $67 million surplus in 2017-18.

"The finances of the province were not doing that bad."

The Liberals have 20 seats in the legislature compared with 22 for the PCs. Speaker Daniel Guitard was elected as a Liberal but does not vote except to break a tie. The Green Party and the People's Alliance hold three seats each.

Landry said while he agrees most often with the Greens, "I'm not scared of working with the Alliance or even collaborating with the Tories" to make the legislature function.
Landry was chosen by party MLAs in a closed-door vote Tuesday morning. He said the caucus decided not to reveal who else sought the interim leadership or how many votes each candidate won.

Landry was defeated in the 2003 provincial election but was re-elected in 2006 and has been an MLA ever since. He was a minister in the governments of Shawn Graham and Brian Gallant and now represents the riding of Bathurst East-Nepisiguit-Saint-Isidore.

He said he would draw on the examples of all the party leaders and premiers he has encountered in his long career in figuring out how to lead the Liberals.

"There are things that I've liked that have been done, some things that I don't like that have been done," he said. "I'm going to try to stay in the middle track of that."

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Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit.
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Trudeau pushes back on SNC-Lavalin, says he was 'surprised and disappointed' by Wilson-Raybould's resignation



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Don Cameron 
Don Cameron
So she has quit the cabinet.

As I said when this thing broke, "this story has legs".

We're only scratching the surface of what is happening. Not looking good for the PM.


Irv Millar
Irv Millar
@Don Cameron Once again. The Conservatives under Steve Harper and his operatives are elbows deep when it comes to SNC Lavalin. Allowing Dr. Porter to die in a Panamanian prison instead of bringing Dr. Porter back to Canada to be a witness for the Crown. Careful what you wish for.

John Adams
John Adams
@Irv Millar Nice try at deflection. This could be the final nail in Trudeau's coffin. The liberal party can still save face but they have to turf Trudeau and Butts to do it.

Pete Gingras
Pete Gingras
@Irv Millar Hey, look!! A squirrel!!!

Felix Culpa
Felix Culpa
@Irv Millar
There is no similarity whatsoever between your ancient history piece and the current debacle.

Randell Dee
Randell Dee
@Irv Millar as the old saying goes....that was then, this is now....remember to stay in the present as this has to relation to what is occurring now and in real time.

You time to point out Harper's failings and mis deeds was then.

If this really breaks open....Harper's name will never be mentioned in an investigation because he had no influence or power at the time of this incident

People really need to get over Harper....HE IS GONE

Tony Hill
Tony Hill
@Irv Millar

Re: "Allowing Dr. Porter to die in a Panamanian prison"

Way to misrepresent reality in a pitiful attempt at deflection.

Dr. Arthur Porter wasn't going to be a "witness for the Crown", he was facing criminal charges in Canada. The reason he was in jail in Panama was because he was detained by Interpol in order to be extradited back to Canada and Porter was fighting that extradition.

The biggest complaint about the Canadian government is that they didn't press the Panamanian government hard enough to extradite Dr. Porter back to Canada to face criminal charges before he died of cancer.

Dr. Porter had absolutely no desire to return to Canada, he had fled the country to avoid prosecution.

Ken Likness
Ken Likness
@Don Cameron
ONLY news item on the CBC at 6:00 news other than a brief report stating more snow is on the way.

David Amos
David Amos
@Ken Likness Surprise Surprise Surprise









Reid Fleming 
Reid Fleming
Yet another woman in Trudeau’s life who seems to have “experienced it differently”...

David Amos
David Amos
@Reid Fleming True









Graham Greene
Barry Odonnell
This is what is hilarious. Yesterday Trudeau stated "The fact that Ms. Wilson-Rayboult is still in cabinet speaks volumes". You were saying JT?


Graham Greene
Graham Greene
@Barry Odonnell

If I had to guess, I'd imagine that to be kind of alike a 'last straw' regardless of the facts of the matter.

Curtis Garrick
Curtis Garrick
@Barry Odonnell
lol yup....yesterday JT - We're one big happy family...today JWR - I'm out mic drop

David Amos
David Amos
@Curtis Garrick Happy Happy Happy



Matt Thuaii
Matt Thuaii
@Barry Odonnell

It really is happy news. Now instead of a government that stands up to Trump, opposes Chinese and Russian expansion, supports human rights and regulation of corporations, we can quickly move in a government that capitulates to all foreign demands, ignores human rights violations, supports foreign interests over Canadian and allows the the rapid offloading of Canadian resources at rock bottom prices.

This really is a great day for all Canadians.








Chris Bond 
Henry Hub
The wrong person resigned here. The person who needs to resign is Justin Trudeau. He has been a complete disaster as Prime Minister. The sooner he goes the better for Canada!!


Richard O'Mara
Richard O'Mara
@Henry Hub That's just yopur opinion... that, and a buck forty-nine plus GST will get you a coffee at Timee's

Steve Bougerolle
Steve Bougerolle
@Henry Hub Maybe, maybe not... How many of the LPC's misdeeds do you think he's responsible for, personally? To what extent is he just a distracting front man while the party gets up to the usual back-room shenanigans?

Also... who could replace him that would be any better? The Liberals ran through quite a string of their leadership candidates before deciding it was finally time to invoke the Trudeau name again.

Lucille Martin
Lucille Martin
@Richard O'Mara no, that is the opinion of any self respecting, decent Canadian.

Bort Smith
Bort Smith
@Henry Hub

I think the cabinet or the House itself should force him to resign.

And yes they can do that.

David Amos
David Amos
@Steve Bougerolle Well put sir but the Mr Dressup stuff went too far



Eduardo Uteras
Eduardo Uteras
@Henry Hub
He'll never resign, no way.

Matt Thuaii
Matt Thuaii
@Richard O'Mara

Oh dear...you questioned the gatekeepers who use our tax payer funded national network as an anti-Liberal, anti-democratic, anti-Canadian messaging tool...

...and look at those downvotes.










Erica Roberts
 Andrew Farmer
I don't really know what went on but I have to admit a degree of respect for Ms Wilson-Raybould for stepping down from cabinet. I await the results from the investigation.


Erica Roberts
Erica Roberts
@Andrew Farmer
What investigation?
The libs won't allow one.

Bruce Harvey
Bruce Harvey
@Erica Roberts The Integrity Commissioner's Investigation. No government permission required. It is underway.

Lynn Roch
Lynn Roch
@Andrew Farmer - wouldn't it be great to know who the anonymous sources are that spoke to G&M, and the anonymous sources that are speaking to media and sporting speculative comments. Lots of speculation out there and less fact at this point. Would like the media to press Scheer more on his meeting with SNC-Lavalin last May (2018) and any other meetings - under oath would be best, but in front of a camera so we can all hear it. He has lots to say about Trudeau but he needs to account for his interactions.

David Amos
David Amos
@Andrew Farmer "I have to admit a degree of respect for Ms Wilson-Raybould for stepping down from cabinet"

I don't


Alan Bardsley
Alan Bardsley
@David Amos If there was proper communication on the matter, then I don't have an issue with her stepping down.

If this wasn't communicated in advance, then I share your concern. You don't blindside your boss on something like this. (Keeping in mind that it takes two to communicate.)

Hopefully time will will tell.

Eduardo Uteras
Eduardo Uteras
@Andrew Farmer
She has more integrity.

David Amos
David Amos
@Alan Bardsley "Hopefully time will will tell."

Trust that Mr Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that it irritated me bigtime when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?

Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos 
@Alan Bardsley Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No." in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harper's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to info found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015

Everybody knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?



Aaron Morris
Aaron Morris
@Lynn Roch

Rumor is the source first approached CBC, but CBC declined to do anything with the story.









Erica Roberts 
Robert Smythe
I'd like to know when the RCMP are going to be brought in to investigate this?


Shawn Pieterson
Shawn Pieterson
@Robert Smythe
Only after a lost election.

Steve Kennedy
Steve Kennedy
@Robert Smythe

Never. There is nothing there.

Chris Bond
Chris Bond
@Robert Smythe
If safety Ralph had any ethics at all they would already be involved.

David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Smythe "I'd like to know when the RCMP are going to be brought in to investigate this?"

Me Too



Eduardo Uteras
Eduardo Uteras
@Robert Smythe
They have their boots polished and are on cue.











Chris Bond 
Mage Zador
Wow. I thought Trudeau had confidence in her. Did she have confidence in him though not to throw her under the bus?


Stanley Baird
Stanley Baird
@Mage Zador I believe her not him

glen spryszak
glen spryszak
@Mage Zador

She is telling Canadians that she wants NOTHING to do with the Trudeau debacle and is distancing herself as much as possible. Trudeau slapper her down and she's just kicked him back in the gonads... She is a smart woman to leave HIS reputation in tatters.

So for his style of feminism. Down the toilet.

David Amos
David Amos
@Mage Zador "Did she have confidence in him though not to throw her under the bus?"

Methinks as an Attorney General the lady was aware that it is a dog eat dog world. When it comes to hard ball politicking everybody protects the PM just like the Duffy Affair N'esy Pas?


Eduardo Uteras
Eduardo Uteras
@Mage Zador
Her Father left Trudeau senior speechless!









Chris Bond 
Mohammed Jones
The Federal Libs are imploding before our eyes!


Jonny Elleven
Jonny Elleven
@Mohammed Jones

No, the whole worlds corrupt "governments" are imploding. They are all corrupt.

David Amos
David Amos
@Mohammed Jones YUP



Eduardo Uteras
Eduardo Uteras
@Mohammed Jones
It's a sight for sore eyes.









Chris Bond 
Sharon Harrison
Wow this is going to hurt at the polls.


David Amos
David Amos
@Sharon Harrison YUP



Eduardo Uteras
Eduardo Uteras
@Sharon Harrison
The polls have been hurt before!









Chris Bond 
Cindy Carter
Jody Wilson-Raybould is hiding something --- that's why she's hired very expensive lawyers.

joan denmark
joan denmark
@Cindy Carter She wants to know what she can legally say in public.

Chris Jones
Chris Jones
@Cindy Carter
It's sometimes called discretion.

Jim Lewis
Jim Lewis
@Cindy Carter You should read the article.....explains why

Erik Knudsen
Erik Knudsen
@Cindy Carter

She must be hiding the candy that was used to pressure her into elaborating on the SNC-Lavalin file! Speculation is a fickle friend of deception too!

David Amos
David Amos
@Cindy Carter "Jody Wilson-Raybould is hiding something --- that's why she's hired very expensive lawyers"

Methinks the lady doth protest too much N'esy Pas?



Eduardo Uteras
Eduardo Uteras
@Cindy Carter
No, Trudeau is hiding something.




Trudeau pushes back on SNC-Lavalin, says he was 'surprised and disappointed' by Wilson-Raybould's resignation

'(Government) did its job ... If anybody felt differently, they had an obligation to raise that with me.'


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Jody Wilson-Raybould attend a swearing-in ceremony at Rideau Hall in Ottawa last month. Wilson-Raybould, the former justice minister, announced on Tuesday she is quitting the federal cabinet. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)


If former Justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould felt she was being pressured by the Prime Minister's Office to help Quebec-based engineering firm SNC-Lavalin avoid criminal prosecution, she had an obligation to bring those concerns up with the prime minister, Justin Trudeau said Tuesday.

Speaking to reporters in Winnipeg, Trudeau said that he was "surprised and disappointed" by Wilson-Raybould's decision to step down.

"This resignation is not consistent with conversations I had with Jody weeks ago when I asked her to serve as Canada's minister for Veterans Affairs and associate minister of National Defence. Nor is it consistent with the conversations we've had lately," Trudeau said.



"In regards to the matter of SNC-Lavilin, let me be direct. The government of Canada did its job and to the clear public standards expected of it. If anybody felt differently they had an obligation to raise that with me. No one, including Jody, did that," said Trudeau, who referred to the former minister by her first name several times.

​Wilson-Raybould — who has kept largely silent since a news report claimed the Prime Minister's Office pressured her to help Quebec-based engineering firm SNC-Lavalin avoid criminal prosecution — announced she was quitting the Liberal cabinet this morning.

Her resignation could trigger another cabinet shuffle and is likely to cast a long shadow over the upcoming election campaign.

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.@JustinTrudeau says he is surprised & disappointed by @Puglaas resignation. On SNC-Lavalin "Gov't of Canada did its job and to the clear public standards expected of them. If anyone felt differently they had an obligation to raise that with me. No one, including Jody, did that."



Trudeau said that he's consulting with Canada's new Attorney General David Lametti on whether, and to what degree, he can waive attorney-client privilege and reveal details of his conversations with Wilson-Raybould on the SNC-Lavalin case.

The prime minister warned, however, that his ability to comment might be limited by the fact that there are ongoing court proceedings involving the Quebec company.

Trudeau tried to reassure Indigenous Canadians that, despite Wilson-Raybould's resignation, the Indigenous reconciliation effort remains a priority for his government — and that without an Indigenous member of cabinet, he'll get his feedback on the file from Canadians across the country.

"Our government's commitment to reconciliation is larger than any one person and we will work closely with Indigenous partners as we walk this path together," he said.

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"Our government's commitment to reconciliation is larger than any one person and we will continue to work closely with Indigenous partners as we walk this path together," says @JustinTrudeau when discussing @Puglaas resignation



Wilson-Raybould, who was shuffled to the Veterans Affairs portfolio less than a month ago, has been under intense scrutiny since a Globe and Mail report alleged last week that the PMO wanted her to direct federal prosecutors to make a "deferred prosecution agreement" (DPA) to avoid taking SNC-Lavalin to trial on bribery and fraud charges in relation to contracts in Libya.

"With a heavy heart I am writing to tender my resignation as the Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence," Wilson-Raybould wrote in her letter to the prime minister, a copy of which she tweeted online.

"When I sought federal elected office, it was with the goal of implementing a positive and progressive vision of change on behalf of all Canadians and a different way of doing politics."

In a brief statement, Cameron Ahmad, a spokesperson for Prime Minister Trudeau, said Wilson-Raybould tendered her resignation when she and Trudeau spoke last night. The PM informed the rest of his cabinet in a meeting this morning and announced that Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan will serve as the acting minister of Veterans Affairs, said Ahmad.

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer called the resignation "a sign of a government in disarray" and once again urged Trudeau to waive solicitor-client privilege so Wilson-Raybould can speak freely about the case.



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Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer calls upon PM Justin Trudeau to waive solicitor client privilege in the SNC-Lavalin case, especially in the wake of Jody Wilson-Raybould's resignation from Cabinet today. 1:25
"Ms. Wilson Raybould's resignation makes it crystal clear that Justin Trudeau is trying to hide the truth with regards to the SNC-Lavalin affair," he told reporters in Fredericton, adding that his party respects her decision to resign from cabinet "on principle."

Scheer said he also sent a letter to Trudeau calling on him to preserve all the documents related to the SNC-Lavalin prosecution.

"With his government in chaos and cabinet changes imminent, he must take steps to protect this information from being altered or destroyed," Scheer said.

"As I've said before, Conservatives are keeping all options on the table to hold Justin Trudeau to account over this issue."

Speaking in Regina, Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said it's "unfortunate" when any minister leaves the cabinet, but deferred follow-up questions to the prime minister.

Shortly after Trudeau made his statement, Jane Philpott, who assumed the role of president of the Treasury Board in the same cabinet shuffle that saw Wilson-Raybould demoted from the Justice portfolio, took to Twitter to voice her support for her former cabinet colleague.

"You taught me so much — particularly about Indigenous history, rights and justice. I'm proud of the laws we worked on together ... I know you will continue to serve Canadians," Philpott said.

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You taught me so much - particularly about Indigenous history, rights and justice. I’m proud of the laws we worked on together - C14 (assisted dying), C37 (harm reduction), C45 (public health approach to cannabis) and so much more. I know you will continue to serve Canadians.





Wilson-Raybould, who plans to stay on as MP for Vancouver-Granville, has been quiet since the original Globe and Mail story broke, saying she can't comment because she's bound by solicitor-client privilege.

In her resignation letter, she said she has retained the services of lawyer Thomas Cromwell, a former justice of the Supreme Court of Canada, to advise her on "topics that I am legally permitted to discuss on this matter."

In an email to CBC News, Cromwell said he would not be making any statements or doing any interviews.

A spokesperson for MP Francis Scarpaleggia, chair of the national Liberal caucus, said that as of Tuesday morning, Wilson-Raybould hadn't left caucus.


Justice committee MPs meeting tomorrow


Her resignation marks a significant turning point in the emerging SNC-Lavalin affair.

Just a day earlier, Prime Minster Justin Trudeau told reporters that he continued "to have full confidence in Jody."

He also insisted, as he has since the story broke, that he did not direct Wilson-Raybould to come to any specific conclusions on whether to direct the Public Prosecution Service of Canada to reach an agreement with SNC-Lavalin.

"She confirmed for me a conversation we had this fall, where I told her directly that any decisions on matters involving the director of public prosecutions were hers alone," Trudeau said Monday.


Singh says Trudeau needs to explain why he demoted Jody Wilson-Raybould
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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says PM Justin Trudeau must explain why he removed Jody Wilson-Raybould from her role as Justice Minister in light of her resignation from Cabinet today. 0:31
"I respect her view that, due to privilege, she can't comment or add on matters recently before the media. I also highlight that we're bound by cabinet confidentiality. In our system of governance, her presence in cabinet should speak for itself."

The House of Commons justice committee is meeting Wednesday to decide whether to launch a study of the SNC-Lavalin case.

The Tories and New Democrats want nine high-ranking officials — including members of Trudeau's inner circle and the new justice minister, David Lametti — to testify before the committee.
Liberal MP Anthony Housefather, chair of the committee, told CBC News he's "leaning" towards a study — but he has concerns.

"I've been in discussion, ever since this meeting was called, with Liberal committee members. And what our primary concern is, will a study by the committee become an exercise in partisanship?" he said.

"That being said, I also believe Canadians need clarity."

The Conservatives have taken to tweeting out the Liberal committee members' contact information, in a bid to have members of the public exert pressure on them.





NDP MP Nathan Cullen, the party's critic for democratic reform, said the opposition members plan to meet Tuesday to discuss adding the prime minister himself to the list of public officials being called to answer questions before the justice committee.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh also called on the Liberals to support the committee's push to look into the allegations.

"If Justin Trudeau and the Liberal government shut the justice committee's work down, it would send a dangerous signal to Canadians about the state of our democracy," Singh said in a statement.

"Justin Trudeau must be transparent and we will continue to push his government to make sure Canadians receive the answers they deserve."

Ethics investigation launched


Wilson-Raybould's resignation is likely to haunt the Liberals during the election campaign — as will a recently-launched probe by the federal ethics commissioner.

On Monday, Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion informed the NDP MPs who had requested an investigation that there is sufficient cause to proceed with an inquiry into Trudeau's actions in the case.



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PM Justin Trudeau says he and former Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould have talked a couple of times since he arrived in B.C. yesterday, and confirmed that they spoke previously about matters involving the Director of Public Prosecutions being hers alone. 2:33
Responding to a letter from NDP MPs, Dion said he would investigate the prime minister personally for a possible contravention of Section 9 of the Conflict of Interest Act, which prohibits any official responsible for high-level decision-making in government from seeking to influence the decision of another person so as to "improperly further another person's private interests."

SNC-Lavalin faces charges of fraud and corruption in connection with nearly $48 million in payments made to Libyan government officials between 2001 and 2011.

The company has pleaded not guilty.

If convicted, the company could be blocked from competing for federal government contracts for a decade.

The case is still at the preliminary hearing stage.

With files from the CBC's J.P. Tasker, Chris Hall and the Canadian Press

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Methinks its strange that this non citizen talks of running for a liberal leadership of a "Have Not" province he get lots of attention N'esy Pas?







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Aspiring Liberal leader's lack of citizenship could lead to disqualification




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Matt Steele
Matt Steele
Ephestion should give Justin Trudeau a call , and get his citizenship fast tracked . Trudeau loves to play fast and loose with Canadian Laws ; and then BLAME someone else like he did with his former Justice Minister who has now resigned from Cabinet after being demoted , and thrown under the bus by Trudeau .


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Matt Steele

How Is Harper doing now that he has been hired to do work for former oil industries he used to fund trough Canada taxes ? any answers ?

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marc Martin Can't see the forests through the trees can you Martin?

Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Shawn McShane

Poor guy needs bifocals to go along with his false teeth .......

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Steele Methinks its strange that this non citizen talks of running for a liberal leadership of a "Have Not" province he get lots of attention Yet when a Canadian actually runs or public office six times thus far he is ignored N'esy Pas?

Go figure

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276



David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks everybody knows Harper hangs his hat a Dentons the same law firm your beloved Chretien does N'esy Pas?

Colin Seeley
Colin Seeley
@Marc Martin

And did it honestly.








Colin Seeley 
Jeff LeBlanc
While I do agree you should have to be a citizen, he will be soon and he's 100% correct about the old boys paranoia. Thankfully the baby boomers will all be dead eventually and hopefully that generation of intolerance will die with them.


richard silliker
richard silliker
@Jeff LeBlanc
Not likely. However, they will be replaced by another generation of intolerance.

SarahRose Werner
SarahRose Werner
@Jeff LeBlanc - If you're hoping that intolerance will die out with the boomers without anything else being done to defeat it, you're in for a huge disappointment. I know tolerant people of all ages - and intolerant ones of all ages as well. This is not what I hoped for when I was younger, but it's the way things have turned out.

Linda Christie Hazlett
Linda Christie Hazlett
@Jeff LeBlanc
I'm a baby boomer and I agree with you so ... Maybe you shouldn't stereotype us

David Amos
David Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc "Thankfully the baby boomers will all be dead eventually and hopefully that generation of intolerance will die with them"

Oh My My I am Happy I am not your Father

Jason Goodwin
Jason Goodwin
@Jeff LeBlanc unfortunately we will be left with yours and your generations forms of intolerance which are far more toxic and hateful than anything expressed by baby boomers.

Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@Jeff LeBlanc
Hatefull ..........your pappy should have slap you harder...........

David Amos
David Amos
@Dan Lee Methinks our pappies would be happy to slap him happy happy happy N'esy Pas?










 Colin Seeley 
Lou Bell
20,000 dollars well wasted ! The mess left by the past SANB Party won't be cleaned up anytime soon!


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks liberals have way too much money if they are willing to pay such a fee to try to replace Gallant N'esy Pas?










Colin Seeley 
Marc LeBlanc
Forget lack of citizenship.
Start working on the seven deadly sins
That should qualify you nicely


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc LeBlanc Methinks whereas he is already a member of the party executive he got that stuff well studied N'esy Pas?








Colin Seeley 
SarahRose Werner
The day 17 years ago when I became a Canadian citizen and gained the right to vote here is one I remember proudly. I would suggest that anyone seeking to gain a position of political leadership in Canada should first gain the right to vote here.


David Amos
David Amos
@SarahRose Werner Common sense is a foreign way of thinking to liberals and their Green Party pals









 Colin Seeley 
Mary MacKenzie
He thinks the Elections Act was written years ago just to disqualify him?


SarahRose Werner
SarahRose Werner
@Mary MacKenzie - Read the story. The Elections Act requires *candidates for political office* to be Canadian citizens. However, the leader of a political party who doesn't currently hold a seat in the provincial legislature doesn't become a candidate until a provincial election is called, so the Elections Act doesn't (yet) apply to them. Up until February 7 of this year, the NB Liberals did not require candidates for *party leadership* to be citizens. Presumably if a non-citizen was elected leader, they had until the next provincial election was called to become one. One does have to wonder why the NB Liberals made that particular change at this time.

David Amos
David Amos
@Mary MacKenzie YUP










Harold Benson 
Harold Benson
That is definitely this generations problem. The easy living old boys. The definition of power hungry greedy old men.


David Amos
David Amos
@Harold Benson Nope

Methinks greed knows no boundaries I bet Sam agrees N'esy Pas?







 

 Colin Seeley 
Shawn McShane
I think people who run for politics in Canada should be born in Canada otherwise you get people like our Minister of Immigration who changes words and puts newcomers over people who have been here for a very long time while being newcomers themselves.


David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane You have a point but I do not agree

Colin Seeley
Colin Seeley
@Shawn McShane

Word changers exist at the highest levels. Our PM wins that category hands down.







 


Colin Seeley
I wanted to bring complementary information to this article, I will be a citizen in the coming months and I will make sure to bring my ideas to the Liberal Party.


David Amos
David Amos
@ Methinks somebody should ask the obvious question N'esy Pas?

WHO ARE YOU?

René Ephestion
René Ephestion
@David Amos Good question, who am I?

I am a man from France who fell in love with NB because I see the opportunity for my family and me to live in French and English, what a great asset.

I am a man who decided to give up everything to start a company in NB and be part of the New Brunswick family.

I am a man who has seen the rise of populism in Europe and who do not want the same for his province.

I am a man who is tired of seeing a small group of people making decisions for a small number of citizens.

I am a man who believes fundamentally in liberal values: equality of people, cultural equality and equal opportunity for all.

I am a man who has decided to put into play his credibility and his passion to really change things in his province's politics

David Amos
David Amos
@René Ephestion When your comment first appeared it had no name. Now that I know it I must ask the obvious question Why didn't you return my call or answer my email on January 28th?

Seamus O'hern
Seamus O'hern
@David Amos ...He's a MAN who is learning the lib/sanb way....that why David.








Colin Seeley 
Mack Leigh
Rene Ephestion : Makes a run at the new leader for the contentious, self-serving SANB and now wants to run for leader of the Liberals..... Wow, those actions alone speak volumes......volumes....


David Amos
David Amos
@Mack Leigh Oh So True

Seamus O'hern
Seamus O'hern
@Mack Leigh ....VOLUMES!!!!...hahaha...the arrogance speaks volumes....dudes not even a Canadian citizen....but that's no problem in "Dat Place"








Linda Christie Hazlett 
Linda Christie Hazlett
Linda Hazlett @linda_hazlett
I don't see why he should be excluded. He will be a citizen by May ad the leadership will be in June


David Amos
David Amos
@Linda Christie Hazlett "I don't see why he should be excluded."

Nor I

Methinks its the liberals call and his money at stake that he wants to put on the table in order to play the wicked game. If I were the liberals I would call his bluff and see what happens next its a freat sideshow for the circus if nothing else N'esy Pas?








Seamus O'hern 
Lou Bell
Being a French citizen he has all the qualifcations needed to belong to the SANB/Liberals .


Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@Lou Bell
And you.....PANB ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Dan Lee Methinks the record shows that Ephestion who is not Acadian did run or the public office of the president of the SANB which is supported by taxpayer funds. Hence I believe that is everybody's business. Now that he wishes to be the liberal leader before he becomes a Canadian citizen is a liberal party problem not mine but possibly yours if you are member of the aforesaid party.

On the other hand as to whom Mr Bell voted for as a private citizen is nobody's business N'esy Pas?










 Al Stevenson 
Al Stevenson
As much as all the mouth breathers here who hate anyone with Acadian pride might hate him, Rene, as an immigrant, has shown a devotion to New Brunswick far beyond many people who actually were born here. His work with the Nazareth house is certainly laudable and I for one am happy he's here. Will he be a good premier? No idea. But he's getting into politics for the right reasons--and at this stage that's the most important thing.


David Amos
David Amos
@Al Stevenson However he is not an Acadian N'esy Pas?

René Ephestion
René Ephestion
@Al Stevenson thank you!










 Seamus O'hern 
Mark Murphy
The first rule , of running for any political position , should be actually being allowed to vote . to vote you need to be a citizen.


David Amos
David Amos
@Mark Murphy That is the law










 Matt Steele 
Matt Steele
None of the Liberal leader candidates mentioned in this article seem very credible ; but that should make the Green Party very happy . No doubt the Green Party is counting on a lot of liberal party supporters to be moving over to the Green Party as the SANB led Liberal Party self destructs .


David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Steele Methinks everybody would like to know your beef with Gaétan Pelletier other than the fact that he is René Arseneault's buddy N'esy Pas?

Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@David Amos
Matt Steele...the true honest face of the south........











George Smith 
George Smith
Of course he shouldn't be eligible to run until he is in fact a Citizen. And I'm going to be a citizen at a future date should exclude him until after he is in fact a citizen. Pretty simple.


David Amos
David Amos
@George Smith Not really He ain't asking to vote yet He just wants Gallant's old job for some strange reason. Methinks he is bluffing but at least he succeeded in getting himself in the news which is more than corporate media does for most Independent politicians N'esy Pas?




 



 Colin Seeley 
Lou Bell
SANB's choice whether they want him to be a part of their party. One way or the other , not gonna dig 'em outta the mess they're in ! Ta Da !


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell True

Matt Steele
Matt Steele
@Lou Bell .......Very true . The SANB led N.B.Liberal Party is in FULL SELF DESTRUCT MODE right now ; and Justin Trudeau's Liberal Govt. is not far behind . Oct. 2019 cannot come fast enough !


Aspiring Liberal leader's lack of citizenship could lead to disqualification

René Ephestion has permanent residency and applied for citizenship last September


René Ephestion is a citizen of France who immigrated to Canada in 2015. (Radio-Canada)

The race for the leadership of the New Brunswick Liberal Party gained one candidate Tuesday but may soon lose another.

Businessman Gaétan Pelletier announced he will join the race to replace Brian Gallant, who officially resigned as party leader this week.

At the same time, René Ephestion of Moncton confirmed that he could be disqualified because he is not a Canadian citizen.


Ephestion, the executive director of Moncton's Nazareth House and a member of the party executive, said he has permanent residency and applied for Canadian citizenship last September.
"I will be a citizen before summer," he said, adding he expected to have his citizenship in mid-May.
Liberal members elect their new leader June 22.

The leadership race rules published by the party Feb. 7 require that candidates "be eligible for election to the Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick in accordance with the Elections Act."

And that act in turn requires candidates in provincial elections to be citizens.

"It makes me wonder if that rule was put in place for me," Ephestion said in an interview.
Last month, he told CBC News that some "old boys" in the party have tried to discourage him from running because he was "an atypical candidate."

"They've never seen that before," he said at the time. "I am young, I am black, I am francophone, I am an immigrant, and I bring new ideas and new vision. Maybe it's too much for them. But these kinds of comments energize me."

Ephestion is a citizen of France who immigrated to Canada in 2015. He said when he first spoke to party officials last fall about running for the leadership, they said there was technically no restriction on a non-citizen.

He said he plans to forge ahead with submitting the required signatures and entry fee to join the race and will see whether the steering committee overseeing the race approves his candidacy.

Ephestion said he spoke Tuesday with one member of the steering committee who agreed with what he was told last fall and who said he should not be disqualified.

Liberal party executive director Keiller Zed wouldn't comment on Ephestion's case but said the same eligibility requirements were in place for the party's last leadership race in 2012.


Gaétan Pelletier is businessman and a former Balmoral village councillor. (Submitted by Gaétan Pelletier)
Meanwhile, Pelletier, a former Balmoral village councillor who helped run Madawaska-Restigouche MP René Arseneault's 2015 federal campaign, said he intends to pay the $20,000 entry fee within days.
Pelletier said he plans to focus on health care and environmental issues, particularly the shortages of doctors, nurses and other professionals plaguing the health system.

Asked for what he would propose to address the problem, he said, "I don't have an answer yet, but I'd definitely look at how to make it better."

Pelletier said the Liberals fell short in the last election because they didn't fix problems with ambulance services and in health care and didn't address controversies about bilingualism head-on.
But he refused to say whether he thought Gallant had been a good leader.

"I think he criticized himself on TV already and I'm not going to criticize him any more than that," Pelletier said.

Two other potential leadership candidates could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Former House of Commons sergeant-at-arms Kevin Vickers, who is retiring soon as Canada's ambassador to Ireland, is reportedly looking at running.

And Stephanie Tomilson, the principal of Rothesay High School and a Liberal candidate in the 2014 and 2018 provincial elections, is also considering a bid.

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Jacques Poitras
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Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 


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Longtime MLA Denis Landry elected interim Liberal leader

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Methinks the members of Canada's Natural Governing Party are suffering through a winter of much discontent throughout our native land N'esy Pas?


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Longtime MLA Denis Landry elected interim Liberal leader



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David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
Methinks its blatantly obvious byway of all the other comments that the SANB approves of Denis Landry being the latest liberal boss Surprise Surprise Surpise N'esy Pas?





Lou Bell 
Lou Bell
Atcon / Franco Phonie Games . Must be some hidden " unfinished business " we haven't yet heard about ! Surprised SANB Prof Savoie wasn't named !


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Lou Bell

Gallant was part of Atcon ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell "Must be some hidden " unfinished business " we haven't yet heard about"

Methinks you know as well as I that its my lawsuit in Federal Court N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276









Harold Benson 
Harold Benson
His entourage looks impressed too.


David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Harold Benson Methinks the members of Canada's Natural Governing Party are suffering through a winter of much discontent throughout our native land N'esy Pas?









Lou Bell 
Marc LeBlanc
I can't think of anything funny to say...
can I get some help here?


Harold Benson
Harold Benson
@Marc LeBlanc I got something not funny, it starts with A and ends with 6.

Stephen Long
Stephen Long
@Marc LeBlanc I know Marc, why not say something controversial instead?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc LeBlanc Welcome to the circus just sit back and enjoy the show









Harold Benson
Harold Benson
Scraping the bottom pretty hard.....


Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Harold Benson

I would say they have now gone subterranean !!

David Amos
David Amos
@Harold Benson Methinks Sam can name a few who would be much worse at the job N'esy Pas?










Lou Bell 
Gabriel Boucher
Quite a resume. A cabinet minister for Shawn Graham's government and a justice minister for Gallant's government. What could possibly go wrong... *sarcasm*


David Amos
David Amos
@Gabriel Boucher "What could possibly go wrong"

Methinks the temporary leader of the opposition could not make something go wrong even if he wanted to He can only expose the wrongs or continue to cover them up N'esy Pas? *NO sarcasm*









Lou Bell 
Colin Seeley
A familiar looking group :

Doc- Grumpy- Happy- Sleepy- Bashful - Sneezy, - Dopey-

Need 2 more names


Marc LeBlanc
Marc LeBlanc
@Colin Seeley How about Dumpy & Lumpy?

David Amos
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David Amos
Colin Seeley








Lou Bell 
Troy Murray
Oink oink, lead us to the trough


David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Murray Tut Tut Tut Now play nicey nicey











Lou Bell 
Mack Leigh
What a sad , sad looking bunch !!! Hopefully we have seen the last of these scoundrels " leading " our province..


Matt Steele
Matt Steele
@Mack Leigh .....Yes , they certainly do appear pretty glum in that photo....Premier Higgs must have drained their taxpayer funded trough after Gallant lost the election for them .

Paul Bourgoin
Paul Bourgoin
@Mack Leigh
Who do you think leads this province?
Politicians??????????????????

Cleve Gallant
Cleve Gallant
@Paul Bourgoin Don’t know but you can fill us in ,

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mack Leigh

Kris Austin and Higgs are gone ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Steele "Premier Higgs must have drained their taxpayer funded trough after Gallant lost the election for them"

Nope

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Kris Austin and Higgs are gone ?"

Dream on

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Mack Leigh
"Hopefully we have seen the last of these scoundrels " leading " our province.."

The only thing the Liberals are good at is leading us into bankruptcy.









Matt Steele 
Matt Steele
So does this make Denis Landry the head of the SANB as well since the N.B. Liberal Party and the SANB appear to be one and the same . At least if Landry gets jammed up legally , maybe Trudeau can have the charges dropped , and then throw his Justice Minister under the bus by demoting her to Veterans Affairs .


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Matt Steele

Well at least he wouldn't be part of a hate group.
Higgs = CoR
Kris Austin = Anglo Society

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Cry me a river

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Steele Catch up she just quit










Lou Bell 
michael levesque
will he pay back to the new brunswick taxpayer the $21,000 he paid to liberal friend eric allaby to do a ferry report. a report that could have been done free of charge to the new bruswick taxpayer by any number of people working in the dept of transportation in which he was the minister. clearly a waste of taxpayers money


David Amos
David Amos
@michael levesque I bet he won't









Lou Bell 
michael levesque
gerry lowe should take some of his fat mla check and buy a shirt and tie


David Amos
David Amos
@michael levesque Why?









Lou Bell 
Jim Cyr
Well, it looks like the CBC censors don't want any one to point out the stunningly obvious.....the Libs have yet again chosen a white male. I guess hypocrisy is not to be discussed in polite company?? Jeez.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Cyr Who cares?









Lou Bell 
Lou Bell
" There are people who felt a little bit set aside " says the SANB spokesman. Wonder who ??


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell I will give you 3 guesses and the first two stooges won't count as much as the third.

Roland Godin
Roland Godin
@Lou Bell
Thank you for recognizing and promoting la SANB as a valid and important participant in the New/Nouveau-Brunswick dialogue, merci... et voilà.










Lou Bell 
Cleve Gallant
Well if Landry thinks anything like Shawn boy and Brian boy I don’t want nothing to do with him !!!!


David Amos
David Amos
@Cleve Gallant Nor I









Lou Bell 
Jim Cyr
I count 10 males and only 2 females in that photo. If it was a photo of Tories, that unequal breakdown would lead to front page hysteria across Canada for a month.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Cyr Of that i have no doubt as well









Harold Benson 
Harold Benson
Ok we'll talk about JT instead.


David Amos
David Amos
@Harold Benson I presume "we" means you and Sam









Graeme Scott 
Graeme Scott
Pretty somber looking bunch in that photo.


David Amos
David Amos
@Graeme Scott YUP



Longtime MLA Denis Landry elected interim Liberal leader

Denis Landry was first elected in 1995 and served as a justice minister in the Brian Gallant government


Denis Landry was chosen interim Liberal leader Tuesday by fellow MLAs in the party. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

The only member of the legislature who served alongside former premier Frank McKenna is the new interim leader of the New Brunswick Liberal Party.

Denis Landry, first elected as the MLA for Centre-Péninsule in 1995, when McKenna won his third and last majority, will lead the party until Liberal members choose a new leader on June 22.

He replaces former premier Brian Gallant, who officially resigned as leader Tuesday.


Landry said his priority will be to boost the morale of party members still smarting over the failure to win a majority in last September's election.
"There are people who felt a bit left aside for whatever reason, and that's what I'm going to do — go talk to people on the ground and see what we can do to put party members in a good mood," he said.

The former logger, known around the legislature for his plainspoken manner, said he was looking forward to the challenge.

"I've never been afraid of work. I enjoy hard work."

Although he'll hold the leadership for only a short time, Landry would not rule out trying to engineer the defeat of the Progressive Conservative minority government this spring.

"That's something we'll have to figure out. We'll go through the session … and from there we'll see what happens. It's hard for me to predict what's going to happen. The budget could be so good or so bad. We'll have to decide as a caucus what we're going to do."


Former New Brunswick Premier Brian Gallant resigned officially as leader of the Liberal Party on Tuesday. (James West/The Canadian Press)
He said his biggest concerns about the March 19 budget are potential cuts. He pointed to more than $200 million in cancelled infrastructure spending in the PC capital budget delivered in December.

"Is there a need to do that? As far as I'm concerned, no," he said, noting the Liberal government ran a $67 million surplus in 2017-18.

"The finances of the province were not doing that bad."

The Liberals have 20 seats in the legislature compared with 22 for the PCs. Speaker Daniel Guitard was elected as a Liberal but does not vote except to break a tie. The Green Party and the People's Alliance hold three seats each.

Landry said while he agrees most often with the Greens, "I'm not scared of working with the Alliance or even collaborating with the Tories" to make the legislature function.
Landry was chosen by party MLAs in a closed-door vote Tuesday morning. He said the caucus decided not to reveal who else sought the interim leadership or how many votes each candidate won.

Landry was defeated in the 2003 provincial election but was re-elected in 2006 and has been an MLA ever since. He was a minister in the governments of Shawn Graham and Brian Gallant and now represents the riding of Bathurst East-Nepisiguit-Saint-Isidore.

He said he would draw on the examples of all the party leaders and premiers he has encountered in his long career in figuring out how to lead the Liberals.

"There are things that I've liked that have been done, some things that I don't like that have been done," he said. "I'm going to try to stay in the middle track of that."

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'This is my authority': The war that got New Brunswick a border 180 years ago

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'This is my authority': The war that got New Brunswick a border 180 years ago

The Aroostook War produced no great battles but led to the New Brunswick we know today


Two blockhouses were built at Fort Fairfield, Maine, to defend a U.S. lumber boom on the Aroostook River. (Google Maps)



Sometime overnight on Feb. 11,1839, Maine land agent Rufus McIntire and his posse retired to a home in Fort Fairfield, Maine.

They had come to the Aroostook Valley on a mission from the Maine legislature: stop the trespass cutting of trees in the area, where the jurisdiction had been in dispute for generations.

A group of New Brunswickers, including lumberman Punderson Beardsley, broke into the home to apprehend McIntire and his men.

When someone in the posse asked on what authority they were being arrested, Beardsley brandished his gun.

"This is my authority," he said, igniting the Aroostook War.

"It's a little bit on the comic opera side," said Gary Campbell, a historian who's written a book about the war.

"But it was all very serious business. … Maine was by itself creating a border crisis that could've plunged the United States and Great Britain into the third Anglo-American war."

The Border

 

The 'highlands' in early documents were interpreted differently by the U.S. and British. The British believed them to be the Mars Hills, pictured, northwest of Florenceville, while the Americans believed they were in the St. Lawrence River Valley. (Library and Archives Canada)
 
 
 
The border between what is now New Brunswick and the state of Maine had been ill-defined long before the confrontation 180 years ago.

The border wasn't clear when the French controlled Acadia or when the British controlled the colonies.
After the American Revolution, the oversight took on new meaning, but efforts to establish a border had been unsuccessful.

"In 1829 there had been a commission of the two sides trying to decide the border but they couldn't come up with a decision," said Chip Gagnon, a political scientist in Ithaca, N.Y., who's researched the Upper St. John River Valley.

"They basically decided that William the First, the king of the Netherlands, would be the arbitrator."

Much of the confusion can be attributed to maps, which were not good, and conflicting interpretations of the "highlands," a reference to either the Mars Hills, as the British claimed, or a group of hills in the St. Lawrence River Valley, as the Americans claimed.

King William presented a compromise that would make the border the St. John River, but the Americans, citing William's strong ties to the British, rejected the idea.

This led to a disputed area that covered much of present day Madawaska County in New Brunswick and Aroostook County in Maine.

While the battle was between the English-speaking British and Americans, the population in the area was largely French-speaking, including Acadians and Brayons.

"The people who lived there were overwhelmingly francophones," said Gagnon.

The causes

 

While lumbering rights in the disputed area was a major cause of the war, there was much more at stake. (UBC)
 
 
 
While an ill-defined border may have facilitated a war, the causes are more complex.
The area was covered with white pine, a lucrative resource for whichever jurisdiction could sell lumber rights, which may explain the rare "winter war."

"That makes perfect sense because in those days lumbering took place … in the winter," said Francis Carroll, who's written a book about the Canada-U.S. border.

"The lumbermen could use the icy roads to get the logs to the river to Saint John."
Maine, with a growing debt, needed little incentive to stake its claim.

The Grand Communication Route up the St. John River and along the St. Lawrence to Quebec City. (Google Maps)
 
 
 
Neither side was supposed to cut timber in the area but both did.

A report from a Maine lumber watchman, George Buckmore, predicted an astronomical increase in the amount of trespass cutting in 1839, provoking Maine. That many observers, including many Americans, considered Buckmore's prediction absurd made little difference.

But Campbell warns against viewing the Aroostook War strictly through a resource lens. He believes what eventually became known as Manifest Destiny — a belief that it was America's destiny, dictated by God, to expand its territory —  also played a part.

"While people were moving west, at the same time you had the northeast frontier of the United States that was in doubt. I personally feel there's a lot of the Manifest Destiny emanating from the Maine politicians … and the average Maine citizen as well."

While the British would never turn down land or resources, Campbell said, the Grand Communication Route, which provided overland access between Halifax and Quebec City during the winter when the St. Lawrence froze, was their primary concern.

The war

The Edmundston blockhouse was built to protect the settlement then called Madawaska. The settlement would later be split in two as the border was finalized. (Google Maps)
 
 
 
Considering its long-lasting impact, the war was over quickly, lasting little more than a month and a half, with little bloodshed.

"The only bloodshed … was in the opening days of the crisis. The Maine land agent's horse was shot [and] wounded slightly by a lumberman.

"Other than that, some British regulars and Maine militia had a punch-up in a tavern on the Canadian side of the Woodstock-Houlton road."

Despite the minor confrontations, Campbell said the situation had potential to turn ugly.

The British mustered troops at what are now Saint John, Saint Andrews, St. Stephen, Fredericton, Woodstock, Florenceville-Bristol, Perth-Andover, Grand Falls, Edmundston and in Quebec.

Maine did the same at Calais, Houlton, Bridgewater, Masardis, Presque Isle and Fort Fairfield.

Old acquaintances

 

Brig.-Gen. Winfield Scott, left, chief negotiator for the U.S., and Sir John Harvey, the lieutenant-governor of New Brunswick. (Library and Archives Canada)
 
 
 
At the end of March, both the governor of Maine and the lieutenant-governor of New Brunswick signed an agreement to end hostilities, as minor as they were, and agreed they would not expand farther into the disputed territory by cutting timber or establishing new settlements.

While a few more skirmishes occurred, and Maine encroached on the disputed territory anyway, the war was essentially over.

The end of hostilities had much to do with the two men negotiating the peace, U.S. Gen. Winfield Scott and New Brunswick Lt.-Gov. James Harvey.

Scott and Harvey had developed a relationship while fighting on opposite sides of the War of 1812.

"When U.S. forces had invaded the Niagara area, a lot of British equipment was captured," said Carroll.

"Scott had discovered a soldier had picked up a gold-framed painting of [Harvey's] new bride … this was sent back to [Harvey.]"

The gesture set up a relationship that made negotiating and compromise between Scott and Harvey easier than between Scott and Maine Gov. John Fairfield.

The compromise

 

Daniel Webster, left, and Alexander Baring, 1st Baron Ashburton, the U.S. and British negotiators who worked out the final border. (Library and Archives Canada)
 
 
 
While peace had, more or less, returned to the area there was still the whole border issue to solve.
To this end the British appointed Alexander Baring, 1st Baron Ashburton, and the Americans named Daniel Webster to negotiate a final location for the Maine-New Brunswick border.

The border that Ashburton and Webster agreed on was basically the rejected compromise border that King William had suggested.

While neither side was necessarily happy, both were convinced it could've been worse.

"There's this map discovered [where the border] was even further south than the British claimed," said Gagnon.

"Meanwhile the British found a map that showed the U.S. claim as a map that was from the original negotiations. … Both sides had to say 'Hey, it could've been worse.'"

Who won?

 

Map showing the proposed boundaries. The red represents the border the British wanted, the green what the Americans wanted and the yellow was the proposed compromise. The purple represents a line all parties agreed to. (New Brunswick Archives)
 
 
 
While neither side got everything  it wanted, each received what was most important to it.
Maine was given vast timber land that the cash-strapped state desperately needed, while the British solidified control of their Grand Communications Route, which would continue to play a major role in British North America.

"Both sides came out with what was their priorities," said Campbell.

"It's probably a reasonably even split."

Who lost?

 

The blockhouse at Fort Kent, Maine, bears the Acadian flag, a reminder of the area's French heritage. (Google Maps)
 
 
 
The major losers of the war and its aftermath appear to be the Acadians living in Maine.

Their communities were split from their New Brunswick halves, and while this didn't affect things much at first, as time moved on the Acadians in Maine found themselves ill-prepared to protect their language rights.

"My dad grew up in the 30s and pretty much his mother didn't speak English, he grew up on the U.S. side in Frenchville," said Gagnon.

"I think people are much less likely to speak French as their first language, the younger generation in particular."

Lise Pelletier, an Acadian archivist at the University of Maine Fort Kent, said at first the split didn't change life in the area all that much.

People regularly crossed the river to do business, visit family and to attend social events.

The religious-based education system helped preserve the language, but that changed in 1919, when the state government of Maine took over the schools and banned instruction in French.

"Even to this day, there are people still traumatized by the punishment and sense of inferiority they were made to feel because they were told that their language was inferior," said Pelletier.

"But how do you express yourself when you only have one language?" 

Lessons

 

'It’s better to work out a compromise solution as opposed to engaging in conflict,' said Gary Campbell. (Catherine Harrop)
 
 
 
The Aroostook War was one of the first instances of the Americans and the British talking through a major problem, as opposed to fighting it out on the battlefield.

"The fact that Scott and Harvey could draft a document that both sides were prepared to agree to that allowed them to withdraw their forces in conditions which were not a surrender of one side or another was really important," said Carroll.

Campbell said the war showed the value of negotiation.

"It's better to work out a compromise solution as opposed to engaging in conflict," he said.

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David Peters
David Peters
"...one of the first instances of the Americans and the British talking through a major problem..."

Interesting.


David Amos
David Amos
@David Peters Methinks it depends on the ghosts of who made out like a bandit and who did not as to whether they would agree with you N'esy Pas?








Emery Hyslop-Margison 
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Although some mention of the effects these tensions/negotiations exacted on the Indigenous inhabitants of the region seems in order, the article is otherwise a nice history lesson. Given the economic and demographic links between the New England States and the Maritimes, one wonders whether these negotiations might have considered a more formal union between them.


David Amos
David Amos
@Emery Hyslop-Margison True

David Amos
David Amos
 @Emery Hyslop-Margison I recall back in the sixties taking a train across Canada We went through that area with the Yankee's blessings. If Quebec separates someday and leaves the Maritimes stranded from the rest of Canada methinks maybe the Yankee will let us build a highway over the old rail line so we can travel back and forth from the "Have Not Provinces" to Fort McMoney .After all most to the tar sands are controlled by wealthy Yankees and they need somebody willing to work hard for them in the cold N'esy Pas?







Emery Hyslop-Margison 
Lewis Taylor
Always great to expand on our history knowledge. I assume that some like Mack Leigh (aka Leonard McLaughlin) will find a way to twist things to blame the other official language for that conflict as well. For some facts cannot be allowed to get in the way.


David Amos
David Amos
@Lewis Taylor Tut Tut Tut Oh my my methinks even the adults need to learn to play nice N'esy Pas?

Lewis Taylor
Lewis Taylor
@David Amos
Must you comment on every single post? Methinks you need another hobby. Plus you need to look up how to spell your second language. est not esy!








Emery Hyslop-Margison 
Gary MacKay
There is always more to than meets the eye. Ashburton married Anne Louisa, daughter of the American statesman William Bingham. Bingham owned one million acres of the State of Maine. (lumber) so the story should enplane that Ashburton simply saw the inheritance and made a deal to protect his families future and there are words for what i believe one may describe him as when he made this lucrative self serving (IMO) settlement. Besides he had seven kids to feed...


David Amos
David Amos
@Gary MacKay Figures









 Emery Hyslop-Margison 
Ian Scott
Well it sure screwed things up for current time, with transportation having to proceed 3 hours north before it can turn southwest again and no hope of a 4 lane route through Maine to Sherbrooke at this point and a potential threatened corridor should PQ or the west eventually bail the current confederation.


David Amos
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David Amos
@Ian Scott Mais Oui







 Emery Hyslop-Margison 
Robert Brannen
Due to a erroneous map used by Benjamin Franklyn, the western boundary of Acadia, when it was ceded to the British, was deemed to be the St. Croix River rather than the correct boundary which was the Kennebec River. The proper U.S.-Canada border should follow the Kennebec River to its source near 45.9 N. Long. 69.8 W. Lat., then due North to intersect the present U.S-Canada Border at the height of land. The French maintained Missions and trading posts along the Eastern banks of the Kennebec, and the Massachusetts Bay Colony maintained military facilities along the Western banks prior to the American Revolution.


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Brannen Interesting








Emery Hyslop-Margison 
Marc LeBlanc
Great article
Thanks


David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc LeBlanc Mais Oui




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