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Liberals grill health minister over alleged about-face on elected health board positions

Official opposition accuses premier of 'power grab'

Rob McKee, Liberal MLA for Moncton Centre, called the bill "an attack on democracy," and questioned an apparent about-face by Fitch on the issue.

In 2008, during another major shakeup of regional health authority boards, Fitch, who was in opposition at the time, advocated for elected as well as appointed members, according to McKee.

Fitch "said that it was a good mix" to have both "because it gives a better regional representation," McKee told the legislature during question period.

"I want to know why his mind has changed so drastically today that now he wants to remove elected members from those boards?"

Under the proposed Act Respecting the Regional Health Authorities introduced Tuesday, Horizon and Vitalité's new boards of directors would each consist of up to seven members — all appointed for a three-year term, with no elected representatives.

Up until last summer, each board had 15 voting members — seven appointed and eight elected. Premier Blaine Higgs revoked the boards of both Horizon and Vitalité and appointed a single trustee for each, after a man died in a Fredericton emergency department waiting room. He also fired the Horizon CEO and replaced the minister of health at the time.

Positions 'evolve,' says health minister

In response to McKee, Fitch countered, "If we didn't review our positions and sometimes change our minds, then the opposition would say we're stuck in the mud, that we're not moving forward, that we can't get out of our own way."

"When we see a problem, when we see an issue, we're ready to change it," he said, citing as an example that referrals for blood work will again be available through the online health service eVisitNB after being dropped last month.

Man surrounded by cameras and microphones New Brunswick Health Minister Bruce Fitch told reporters the proposed changes will enable the government to be 'nimble' and 'reactive.' (Radio-Canada)

Outside the legislature, Fitch accused the Liberals of trying to score political points and suggested to reporters his 2008 comments about regional health authority boards might have been taken out of context, or even about "something else."

But he reiterated positions on issues can change over time.

"We're going with the appointed boards for the [regional health authorities] because we feel again that we need to be nimble, we need to be reactive, we need to be streamlined and making the decisions, the right decisions for health care," he told reporters.

Asked whether the proposed system will be more nimble when it includes the addition of a new health-system collaboration council, Fitch challenged the opposition's characterization of it as another layer of governance.

The council, which would include the health minister and representatives from both regional health authorities, is "formalizing some of the co-operation that's occurring now," he said.

'Power grab' by premier, alleges Liberal MLA

During resumed debate on the bill, Jacques LeBlanc, the Liberal MLA for Shediac–Beaubassin–Cap-Pelé, suggested Fitch was on thin ice in answering questions about his change in position on elected board members.

"I know that the minister is going against his vision. It's not his vision, it's the vision of the premier," he alleged.

Higgs "wants to control everything. He's on a power grab."

LeBlanc noted there have been three ministers of health since Higgs took office in 2018. "I'm convinced that they're not the ones who are really in charge of the Department of Health."

I think it's the first step towards merging those two regional health networks. And I believe that's a big mistake.
- Jacques LeBlanc, Liberal MLA for Shediac-Beaubassin-Cap-Pelé

He argued the proposed changes go against the principles of local governance reform and don't make any sense.

"I think it's the first step towards merging those two regional health networks. And I believe that's a big mistake."

The premier's office did not respond to a request for comment.

Health care belongs to citizens

Richard Losier, the Liberal MLA for Dieppe, told the legislature there are worldwide trends to have a more democratic approach to boards of directors.

"The health-care system does not belong to a minister of health, a premier, a trustee, a CEO," he said. "It belongs to the citizens" who pay taxes and should have a say over governance.

Losier noted health care represents more than 30 per cent of the global budget and affects everybody, from birth to death.

"Why is the government afraid of those elected officials?"

 
 
 
15 Comments



David Amos
Fitch and his minions should answer their emails 
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
From you? Why? 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Harvey York
Ask his EA
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
Nah, I know why they don't answer 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Harvey York
Cops with no names always brag that they know everything  
 
 
 
 
 
Rosco holt
Higgs is changing the board for a bunch a yes-men. So he can proceed to destroy public healthcare. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt 
Apparently so 
 
 
Ronald Miller
Reply to Rosco holt 
News flash: public healthcare was destroyed long before Higgs came along. 
 
 
 
 
 
Dave white  
Mr. LeBlanc really laid out the situation very well and I agree with him.
 
 
David Amos
Reply toDave white 
Of course you would but its was Fitch who made certain that I finally I got a Health Care Card. 
 
 

Automatic reply: Hey Higgy while you were meeting with the boyz a lady working for Dr. France.Desrosiers called me with private number in order to laugh and play dumb about my Health Care concerns EH?

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Hey Higgy while you were meeting with the boyz a lady working for Dr. France.Desrosiers called me with private number in order to laugh and play dumb about my Health Care concerns EH?





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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 00:04:16 -0300
Subject: Hey Higgy while you were meeting with the boyz a lady working
for Dr. France.Desrosiers called me with private number in order to
laugh and play dumb about my Health Care concerns EH?
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/atlantic-premiers-discuss-collaboration-1.6392416


Health-care collaboration on the table as Atlantic premiers finally
get in-person meeting

Premiers discuss key issues, say they won't pursue permanent daylight
saving time unless other regions do

Mia Urquhart · CBC News · Posted: Mar 21, 2022 6:07 PM AT


Pictured at the Council of Atlantic Premiers meeting in Halifax, from
left: Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston, New Brunswick Premier Blaine
Higgs, Prince Edward Island Premier Dennis King and Newfoundland and
Labrador Premier Andrew Furey. (Government of Nova Scotia)

The four Atlantic premiers held their first in-person meeting since
before the pandemic on Monday, where they discussed a regional
approach to health care and other key regional issues.

At the meeting, held in Halifax and chaired by Nova Scotia Premier Tim
Houston, the premiers talked about a unified effort to recruit and
retain health-care professionals and using potential "excesses" to
assist patients in neighbouring provinces.

New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs said the four provinces are not in
competition with each other and will be working together to attract
health-care workers to the region.

Higgs also said they discussed how provinces can share existing
resources. For example, if one area has an "excess" of some service,
it could be used by patients from other provinces.

"If we have excess capability and we can utilize that, let's not get
hung up on where it is," Higgs said at a wrap-up briefing with the
media following the Council of Atlantic Premiers meeting.

He said the patient's home province would pay for the service, but the
patient would have to travel to where the service is being offered.
Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston hosted the first in-person meeting of
the Atlantic premiers since before the pandemic. (Robert Short/CBC)

Houston said all four Atlantic provinces are experiencing similar
challenges when it comes to health care.

"It's safe to say that health care remains top of mind for each of our
provinces and our populations. The shortage of health-care workers is
not exclusive to Atlantic Canada, certainly not exclusive to Nova
Scotia. It's felt everywhere."

Making it easier for health-care workers to travel between provinces
is part of the solution, he said.

Currently, licensing criteria and fees structures are unique to each
province and complicate mobility between provinces.

Making it easier for health-care workers to travel between provinces
means they could "move around and help each other out," Houston said.

"We are one region and there's lots of family ties between them," he
said. "And so those are the opportunities that I'm looking forward
to."

Houston said there was a "high degree of interest in harmonizing that stuff."
Newfoundland Premier Andrew Furey said the ultimate goal would be for
one licensing system for health-care professionals like doctors.
(Government of Newfoundland and Labrador)

Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Andrew Furey said "one of the
lessons learned from COVID … [is] that health-care mobility is
important."

Furey, who has worked as a doctor around the world, said Canada is
fortunate to have "a robust licensing system that could be applied
blanket-statement to the whole country."

"We are very well trained in Canada," he said. "Once you're licensed
in any jurisdiction, there's no reason to think that you shouldn't be
able to practice medicine somewhere else."

Furey said the "exact model and instrument" still has to be
determined, but that a single entity controlling the licensing of
health-care professionals would be the goal.

Health care was just one of the issues on the agenda. They also
discussed a regional approach to economic recovery, cost of living,
immigration and energy.
Daylight saving time

The premiers also talked about the movement in other areas to
establish daylight saving time year-round.

Prince Edward Island Premier Dennis King said islanders support the
idea of getting rid of the twice-yearly time change — as long as
they're not the only ones doing it.

In the United States, one of the two chambers of Congress passed a
bill that would make daylight time permanent instead of the current
March-through-November schedule.

The U.S. Senate passed the bill last week with support from both
parties. If it becomes law, it would mean an extra hour of daylight in
the evenings year-round.

In Canada, Ontario has a law passed and ready to be implemented if New
York and Quebec do the same.

"I think if that were to happen, we would have to react collectively
here in some way, shape or form," King said on Monday.

"Essentially, we've all sort of decided that this doesn't make sense
for one of us to do this. If we are to proceed with something, it
would be … on a regional basis in response to what might be done in
other places."

Higgs said there's also interest in New Brunswick in eliminating the
twice-yearly time change.

But until other regions make a move, Higgs said, the Atlantic
provinces won't pursue it.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Mia Urquhart

Mia Urquhart is a CBC reporter based in Saint John. She can be reached
at mia.urquhart@cbc.ca.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-vitalite-hospitals-red-alert-restrictions-health-care-workers-deficit-1.6387221

COVID-19 is 'not over in hospitals,' head of Vitalité tells board
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Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon · CBC News · Posted: Mar 16, 2022 7:11 PM AT |
Last Updated: March 16
Dr. France Desrosiers, president and chief executive officer of
Vitalité Health Network, said services are gradually resuming.
(Government of New Brunswick/YouTube)

COVID-19 is "not over in hospitals," says the president and CEO of the
Vitalité Health Network.

Dr. France Desrosiers made the comments during an update to the board
of directors Tuesday.

New Brunswick lifted all of its COVID-19 restrictions Monday, but
Vitalité remains at the red alert level due to the number of
hospitalizations and absent health-care workers, Desrosiers said
during the public meeting.

"The number of hospitalizations has remained stable I would say over
the last month. The number of absenteeism is also stable, but it is
still present.

"So as soon as we are able to resume service, we resume it. Sometimes,
we have to revise downwards and we go back up as soon as possible
again."

As of Saturday, the most recent figures available, there were 99
people with COVID-19 hospitalized across both the Vitalité and Horizon
health networks, down from 103 on Friday, including three people aged
19 or under.

Thirteen people required intensive care, down from 14, and seven of
them were on ventilators, unchanged.

Of those in hospital, 46 were admitted for COVID-19, and 53 were
initially admitted for something else when they tested positive for
the virus. Of the 13 in an ICU, 11 are "for COVID" patients.

The seven-day average of COVID-related hospitalizations increased to
98 Saturday, from 96, while the seven-day average of COVID-related ICU
bed occupancies was 13, up from 12.
As of Saturday, 154 Vitalité health-care workers were off isolating
after testing positive for COVID-19. (Evan Mitsui/CBC)

There were 513 health-care workers off Saturday after testing positive
for COVID-19, down from 577. That includes 154 from Vitalité, 300 from
Horizon and 59 from Extra-Mural and Ambulance New Brunswick.

As of last Thursday, another 76 Vitalité health-care workers were
isolating because they had been a close contact of a positive case.

Hospital capacity provincewide was listed at 90 per cent, up from 89
per cent on Friday, while ICU occupancy decreased to 71 per cent, from
77 per cent.

Vitalité and Horizon both announced last week that their hospitals and
health-care facilities would remain at the red level, despite the
province lifting all mandatory measures in the community.

Vitalité is adjusting on a daily basis and services are gradually
resuming, said Desrosiers.
Pandemic-related costs for 2021-22 reach $26M

But she noted the regional health authority recorded an operating
deficit of $24 million for the first nine months of the fiscal year,
largely due to additional expenses related to the pandemic.

Desrosiers highlighted the challenges faced by human resources.

"The network took into account that a significant number of
health-care workers had to be taken off the job due to the virus at
one time or another. The quick and efficient redeployment of resources
has made it possible to provide essential services and to cope with
the rapid increase in the number of hospitalized patients with
COVID-19," she said.

Pandemic-related costs between April 1 and Dec. 31, 2021, totalled
$26.2 million, the board heard.

"Through careful and responsible management of the pandemic's fifth
wave, we have emerged from this crisis with the sense that we did what
needed to be done," Desrosiers said in a statement.

    Department of Education clarifies Russell's comments about
absenteeism triggering school closures

    New Brunswick devises confusing way to measure vaccine protection

Blood test and radiography services are almost completely restored,
with some backlog to be cleared up.

Surgical services vary "from 75 to 80 per cent" of normal capacity,
depending on the location, said Desrosiers.

"Sometimes there are areas that are 100 per cent, others are 50 per
cent. It really varies on a daily basis," she said.

The province has passed the peak of the Omicron variant, according to
Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer of health.

"Yes, we do have a continued level of hospitalizations, but we're
managing," she told CBC on Monday.

With the lifting of restrictions, some increases in hospitalizations
and cases are expected, said Russell.

But they won't be overwhelming, she said, citing modelling, which has
not been made public.

With files from Radio-Canada
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 13:19:03 -0400
Subject: Obviously Mayor Normand Pelletier is still complaining while
everyone ignores my personal concerns about Health Care EH Minister
Shephard and Kris Austin?
To: Dr.France.Desrosiers@vitalitenb.ca, Roger.Brown@fredericton.ca,
David.Coon@gnb.ca, "Roger.L.Melanson"<roger.l.melanson@gnb.ca>,
kris.austin@gnb.ca, Christian.R.Whalen@gnb.ca, Norman.Bosse@gnb.ca,
advocate-defenseur@gnb.ca, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "Mike.Comeau"
<Mike.Comeau@gnb.ca>, mcu@justice.gc.ca, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Ross.Wetmore"<Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>,
"robert.mckee"<robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin"
<robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, viltide@nb.sympatico.ca, Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca,
denis.landry2@gnb.ca, andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca,
info@campbellton.org, normand.pelletier@dalhousie.ca,
lebrun@nb.aibn.com, Alysha.Elliott@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca,
megan.mitton@gnb.ca, michelle.conroy@gnb.ca, bruce.fitch@gnb.ca,
mike.holland@gnb.ca, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch@gmail.com,
alexandre.silberman@cbc.ca
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca,
monica@actuslaw.com, rene@actuslaw.com, Jacques.Duclos@vitalitenb.ca,
Thomas.Lizotte@vitalitenb.ca

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Austin, Kris (LEG)"<Kris.Austin@gnb.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:30:32 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Kevin Arseneau before I go to the
hospital again called your cell and left a message Correct?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for your email.

Please be assured that all emails and letters are read carefully.

Should your issue be Constituency related, please contact Janet at my
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 11:39:16 -0300
Subject: Methinks Mr Higgs 'can't sit idly by' while my mental health
issues are addressed in public forums N'esy Pas Kris Austin?
To: Client.Advocate@gnb.ca, "jennifer.russell"
<jennifer.russell@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"<Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>,
"Mark.Blakely"<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Blinn"
<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "hugh.flemming"<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
"john.green"<john.green@gnb.ca>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, mcu
<mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "barbara.massey"<barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>,
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<Kevin.Vickers@gnb.ca>, "Kevin.leahy"<Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"David.Coon"<David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "kris.austin"<kris.austin@gnb.ca>,
"blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>,
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Methinks Mr Higgs 'can't sit idly by' while my mental health issues
are addressed in public forums N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/09/province-cant-sit-idly-by-during-mental.html


#cdnpoli #nbpoli

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/blaine-higgs-mental-health-1.5296371


 Province 'can't sit idly by' during mental health crisis, Higgs says


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David Raymond Amos
I wonder if Kris Austin is reading this




David Raymond Amos
Methinks Mr Higgs 'can't sit idly by' while my mental health issues
are addressed in public forums N'esy Pas?









David Raymond Amos
Methinks its strange that the conservatives take a sudden interest in
mental health 11 long years after they had me falsely imprisoned in
the looney bin N'esy Pas?



Lewis Taylor
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
not falsely



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: That is libel




David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Perhaps you should have your lawyer talk
to Dr Banic and the RCMP because I will be mentioning you within my
next lawsuit



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Are you related to the Federal Minister of Health?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: She used to work with the RCMP correct?


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Now you talk to yourself!



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Better yet are you a cop?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you know as well as I why i
am posting my questions in this fashion to your new Light of Love
N'esy Pas?




Lewis Taylor
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
wrong again


Lewis Taylor
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
methinks you were released too soon! n'esy pas?


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Ask your lawyer why I am recording and
emailing your libel to your friends in the RCMP














Terry Tibbs
A plan, a plan, do you believe?
Is it me? Am I the only one hearing generalities, but no specifics?
We have to note, just the other day, both Scheer and Trudeau promised
big bucks in transfers for health care. So would it be prudent to
assume "business as usual" in the health care file until the money
fairy stops by? If the money fairy stops by?
We must remember too, you need a referral from a GP (typically your
family doctor) to see a mental health professional. So maybe the first
order of business would be addressing the shortage of GPs?
Whatever rabbit Mr Higgs pulls out of his hat, rebuilding a very
broken system will take time and money.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Its all just talk Higgs and his cohorts have
yet to provide me with a Health Care Card However 11 years ago the
liberals had no problem whatsoever squandering precious health care
resources by falsely imprisoning a political opponent in a mental ward
for the benefit of the conservative buddies Greg Thompson and Carl
Urquhart. Methinks the truly funny part of it all is that the shrinks
never got paid for their malicious services and now they try hard to
pretend it never happened and don't know who I am even though they
know I have the RCMP's documents with the doctor's signature N'esy
Pas?




Lewis Taylor
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
things are really messed up in your alternative universe. If you were
placed in a mental facility then it was most certainly for just cause.
This is not done randomly. Furthermore, the physicians who attempted
to treat you were certainly paid by Medicare and if you think doctors
remember every single patient and document they may have signed while
on call or otherwise then i would suggest that you treatment was
unsuccessful.



David Raymond Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Dream on trust that Carl Urquhart and seven
car loads of cops tried the same trick again on election night 201 and
it backfired bigtime on them that time.Methinks you should checkout
YouTube sometime before you call me a liar N'esy Pas?



Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Lewis Taylor:
ANY "credible" professional keeps, besides computer records, a
handwritten daily log.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I know I do Higgs and his cohort want to forget
that the RCMP used to pay me for my opinions Furthermore anyone can
Google me to see the reply to Taylor that was blocked



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Much to Taylor's chagrin I have the signed
document by the shrinks and the cops



Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
agreed but then again why would they allow themselves to be harassed
by Amos the same way we are on this site? The probably told him they
don't remember to get rid of him. I wish we could do the same!



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Methinks that is more libel because I have
NEVER harassed ANYONE Hence you have no proof of it. However I do have
proof of my false arrest in writing signed by a doctor employed by the
government of New Brunswick and video of a member of the RCMP
admitting to his assault on me in the DECH. More importantly we have
your published comments today so that brings the matter up to date
N'esy Pas?

















Jebidoah Shylah
Marijuana is only going to make it worse. If we can't ban this
dangerous drug, can we at least rename it 'Marijuana NB' instead of
Cannabis NB. Why sanitize this seedy habit.



Mike Connors
Reply to @Jebidoah Shylah: You have got to be kidding. Cannabis is the
only thing keeping some soldiers alive that are suffering from PTSD
because we sent them to foreign countries to be shot at and see body
parts all over the place. We have seen the tragic results when this
has been taken away from them, so please educate yourself BEFORE you
speak next time.



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Mike Connors: what about recreational marihuana?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Who cares how much dope you SANB dudes smoke?



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: you are quite calm tonight! Are you on valiums?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: You can't argue so you insult and yet
you think you are clever. Methinks you are well aware that i have no
respect for the druggies and pill pushers who seem to be your
favourite people N'esy Pas?



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: whereas you are so respectful to all!



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks I keep far better records
that you N'esy Pas?




Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: in your "biased" opinion!



Greg Smith
Reply to @Jebidoah Shylah: Great idea “Jebidoah”. While we’re at it,
let’s rebrand “NBLiquor” to “Ethanol NB”, and every gas station that
sells cigarettes as “Nicotine NB”, since neither of those make sense
either and follow your ridiculous model.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should pull my old files
from the dockets of many courts on both sides of the medicine line and
look for some new ones too. Trust that you are about to be mentioned
in at least one lawsuit and you all knowing SANB dudes are well aware
of the many reasons why N'esy Pas?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Greg Smith: True



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks after all your malicious
nonsene last night the cat must have your tongue today N'esy Pas?











Marguerite Deschamps
As if the elusive Higgs boson cares.



Ian Scott
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Is that what you got from this? Maybe
move the idiotic mental health center in Campbelton to where it can be
operated properly instead of usual Liberal politics of the MLA's in
north.He at lest has acknowledged the problem more than any one in
last 4 years.And homeless issue blends right in.



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Ian Scott: Ever since and before Confederation, all the
wealth has been transferred down south. It's about time that the north
gets its fair share. The comedian turned deputy Premier is not too
talkative since he won his Northeast riding. They gave him the title
just to mute him. He has always been droll, but not in the sense of
comical.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Why should the ringmaster at the
circus care what a clueless SANB dude thinks about anything
particularly in light of the fact that you still won'r admit that your
light of love Lou is a lady no matter how many times I tell you N'esy
Pas?
















Doug James
The policies of this province help cause mental illness. And now it is
telling us it is going to help solve the problem? Just look at the
overall healthcare system that is focused on treatment rather than
prevention and you'll understand just how impossible that will be.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Doug James: Cry me a river

















Donald Smith
Wow Mr. Higgs, province needs to focus more on mental health care, yet
another Media source has a front page news story today, Province Needs
More Psychiatrists Doctor says. If so, why don't we have them, its
either we Can't Afford Them, or we don't want to hire them, am I
seeing this wrong ??



Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Donald Smith:
Recrutement is a farce in NB...there are no billing numbers available
where they are needed. Simple fix but politicians pay lip service and
do nothing.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Yea right you should know




Lewis Taylor
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
obviously



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: The real question is who is your lawyer and
does he or she know of your malice towards me?

















June Arnott
They will cut other services to help with the overdue Mental
Healthcare. It is so sad that they made cuts to MH decades ago. But
hey, at least the politicians still get their perks and raises!!



Terry Tibbs
Reply to @June Arnott:
Hard to say. Both major applicants for the top federal job have
promised a visit from the health care money fairy if elected. So it
might be prudent to think that is the source of all the new found
health care spending that Mr Higgs is promising. I suspect we shall
have to wait and see...........
There is going to be a bit of a jackpot if regional government comes
to pass, though I suspect that payday has been spoken for elsewhere.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: FYI I have yet to get my Health Care card



Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
If you are like me you don't need one because you don't get sick.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I don't go to see the sawbones until I heard
the Grim Reaper knocking at my door. Whereas I have no Medicare Card I
paid a doctor to have look at me and he sent me straight to the
emergency room I have there twice this month and have been scheduled
for a raft of test for my old ticker. Heath Care card or not I am
entitled to the same service every other Canadian Citizen receives.
Now that I am a running for a seat in Parliament again methinks you
can bet dimes to dollars that I will be raising a lot of hell about
this N'esy Pas?
















Jebidoah Shylah
Indeed those suffering from mental health problems need more help so
they can become productive members of society. If someone has a broken
leg, we don't write them off for life, we fix the leg. Why do people
not understand that mental health is the same as any part of the body,
fixable. When placed under immense stress and strain, it too can break
and because it's the hard rive of the body, it's essential we have the
best treatment for it. We also need to ban marijuana and make sure New
Brunswick is a drug free zone so that fewer people end up with mental
health issues that marijuana and other drugs are known to cause, and
so that more money is then available for those who have mental health
issues not self inflicted by drugs. It's an outrage that we are
subsidizing fancy stores for marijuana drug users while mental health
service suffers.



Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Jebidoah Shylah:
Opioids is doing more damage and usually prescribe by doctors



Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi:
yes to patients who shop around faking symptoms until some overworked
doc succumbs to the act and caves in. People need to accept
responsibility for their addictions and stop blaming everyone!



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: it's the fault of both the doctors and the
patients in a lot of cases.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you found another Lou to love
After all you have something in common and that is you both despise me
and I am honoured that you do N'esy Pas?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Oh So True



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: sorry to burst your bubble, but I do not
despise yu.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Oh my my how quick you wish to forget
that you bragged of earlier today N'esy Pas?



Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
if the doctors are at fault then either they should be sued or have
their licenses revoked...why does this not happen? Heresay does not
equal guilt...if so then Amos would be right.



David Raymond Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Methinks you are not clever enough to know
when to clam up N'esy Pas?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Methinks your lawyer should pull Federal Court
File no T-1557-15 in Fat Fred City ASAP N'esy Pas?



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/dalhousie-s-walk-in-clinic-remains-closed-without-definitive-reopening-date-1.6372008

Dalhousie's walk-in clinic remains closed without definitive reopening date

Region's only walk-in clinic has been closed for over a month
Alexandre Silberman · CBC News · Posted: Mar 04, 2022 7:00 AM AT

The St. Joseph Community Health Centre in Dalhousie, N.B. was once a
hospital with 100 beds. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

The Restigouche region's only walk-in clinic will not reopen this week
as expected.

The clinic at the St. Joseph Community Health Centre in Dalhousie
closed its doors at the end of January in response to a staffing
shortage. At the time, the Vitalité Health Network said the temporary
closure would only last a month.

But this week, it remained closed with no clear timeline on if or when
the clinic will start taking patients again.

Dalhousie Mayor Normand Pelletier said residents without a primary
care provider or facing long waits for an appointment don't know where
to turn to.

"They're extremely disappointed, they're scared," he said. "They don't
know where they're going to go for medical help in Restigouche County
anymore."

    Dalhousie residents demand improved doctor recruitment after
clinic temporarily closes

Residents held a protest last month calling on the health authority to
improve recruitment of health care providers. At the time of the
clinic's closure, only two out of six physician positions were filled
– with one doctor on leave.

The Vitalité Health Network has not announced a new reopening date.
Dalhousie Mayor Normand Pelletier said residents are worried about the
temporary closure of the walk-in clinic at the St. Joseph Community
Health Centre. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

Spokesperson Thomas Lizotte said all other services at the community
health centre, including a collaborative practice and ambulatory
services, remain available to patients.

"Discussions are still ongoing with the Department of Health to ensure
strategic alignment with the new Health Plan," Thomas wrote in an
email.

There are 4,200 patients with a regular primary care provider at the
collaborative practice.

In an interview last month, Jacques Duclos, vice-president of
community services and mental health, said family physicians found the
workload of the walk-in clinic "unsustainable" because it took away
from the collaborative practice.

He said discussions are focused on rethinking the primary care model,
spurred by the province's new health plan and improvements to virtual
care.

WATCH / Closure of only walk-in clinic has aging community worried
Dalhousie's only walk-in clinic closes amid 'major crisis' in staffing
15 days ago
Duration 3:03
Residents are calling on the Vitalité Health Network to improve
recruitment of doctors and nurses for the Restigouche region. 3:03

Restigouche County has one of the province's oldest populations and is
facing a significant shortage of 13 primary care providers. Without
the clinic, residents have been waiting at the emergency room at the
Campbellton Regional Hospital, or driving an hour south to Bathurst.

Pelletier said town council and the regional service commission have
heard no updates on recruitment since the demonstration. Now, he's
requesting a meeting with Health Minister Dorothy Shepard to ask for
increased control locally.

"Probably we'd be better served under Horizon," he said.

During the pandemic, the clinic had shifted to an appointment-only
model. Patients could no longer just show up and instead needed to
call in to get a spot.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Alexandre Silberman

Video Journalist

Alexandre Silberman is a video journalist with CBC New Brunswick based
in Moncton. He has previously worked at CBC Fredericton, Power &
Politics, and Marketplace. You can reach him by email at:
alexandre.silberman@cbc.ca

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 13:23:02 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE NB Mental Hospitals et Aujourd'hui en Acadie
To: monica@actuslaw.com, rene@actuslaw.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca

https://www.vitalitenb.ca/en/network/board-directors/members-board-directors

Monica L. Barley

Moncton

Ms. Barley has been a lawyer for over 15 years. She now handles
defence and litigation proceedings in the fields of inheritance law,
contractual law, employment law and administrative law.

Her professional experience also enabled her to serve, as Chair and as
member, on various boards of directors, such as those of 3 plus
Economic Development Corporation, the Crossroads for Women Inc. as
well as the Centre de pédiatrie sociale Sud-Est Inc.


https://actuslaw.ca/monicas-bio

MONICA L. BARLEY – Partner

Monica L. Barley obtained a Bachelor of Science in physics and
mathematics from the Université de Moncton before entering the Faculty
of Law to pursue her lifelong dream of becoming a lawyer.

After being called to the bar in 2002, Monica became an associate
lawyer at Forbes Roth Basque and went on to be a federal crown
prosecutor.  In 2010, Monica began her career at Actus Law Droit,
where she became partner in 2012.

In her practice, she focuses on dispute resolution, which includes
will and estates disputes, employment law, contract law,
administrative law and criminal law. In March 2014, Monica was
appointed Chair of The Financial and Consumer Services Tribunal. The
Tribunal is an independent adjudicative body, which holds hearings and
appeals under New Brunswick financial and consumer services
legislation.

A strong believer in giving back, Monica has held several volunteer
roles. She is a past board member of Alternative Residences Inc., a
non-profit organization that strives to provide and assist individuals
living with a mental illness in finding housing; former President of
Crossroads for Women Inc., a shelter for women and children victims of
family violence; former Vice-President of Downtown Moncton
Centre-ville Inc.; and a former board member of 3 plus Economic
Development Corporation. She was chair of the Elder Law Section of the
New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian Bar Association and is now
President of Social Pediatric Center of Southeast New Brunswick.

A self-described golf addict, Monica and her husband Kolin live in Moncton.

Monica L. Barley
Called to the bar: 2002 (NB)
Actus Law Droit
Partner
900 Main St.
Moncton, New Brunswick E1C 1G4
Phone: 506-854-4040
Fax: 506-854-4044
Email: monica@actuslaw.com

René J. Basque
Called to the bar: 1989 (NB); Q.C.2013 (NB)
Actus Law Droit
Partner
900 Main St.
Moncton, New Brunswick E1C 1G4
Phone: 506-854-4040
Fax: 506-854-4044
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https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1799963/ngola-blaine-higgs-coronavirus-nouveau-brunswick-defi-informations?cid=rg_il-reg_txt_inf_infolettre-matinale_acadie-2021-06-09_0

Loin de s'excuser, le premier ministre Higgs met au défi le Dr Ngola
Le Téléjournal Atlantique
Blaine Higgs met au défi le Dr Ngola
Montage de deux photos du docteur Ngola et du premier ministre Higgs.

Le docteur Jean-Robert Ngola, médecin (à gauche) et Blaine Higgs,
premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick (à droite).

Photo : Mia Sheldon (CBC) et Andrew Vaughan (La Presse canadienne)

Radio-Canada
2021-06-08 | Mis à jour aujourd’hui à 12 h 59

Le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick Blaine Higgs a publiquement
mis au défi le Dr Jean-Robert Ngola en lui demandant de l'autoriser à
révéler des informations privées potentiellement incriminantes. Un
geste qui n’est pas passé inaperçu par l’opposition, mardi.

Le Dr Ngola faisait face, jusqu'à tout récemment, à des accusations
pour avoir enfreint la loi sur les mesures d’urgence durant la
pandémie. Ces accusations ont été abandonnées vendredi.

Blaine Higgs, qui refuse toujours de s’excuser, dit maintenant détenir
des informations possiblement compromettantes, mais qu’il ne peut
divulguer en vertu de la Loi sur la protection de la vie privée.

"J’ai de l’information qui n’a jamais été révélée publiquement",
a-t-il lancé mardi.
À lire aussi :

    Ajournement des procédures pour le Dr Ngola au Nouveau-Brunswick
    Le Dr Jean-Robert Ngola est-il réellement le patient zéro?

Blaine Higgs demande au Dr Ngola de promettre de ne pas le poursuivre
pour violation de la vie privée, ce qui lui permettrait de dévoiler
l’information demeurée secrète jusqu’ici.
Une attaque envers un citoyen racialisé, selon les avocats

L'équipe de défense du Dr Ngola a vivement dénoncé les propos de
Blaine Higgs. Elle se demande à quelles informations il fait
référence.

"Si M. Higgs a d’autres preuves, rien ne l'empêche de nous les envoyer
à nous, les avocats du Dr Jean-Robert Ngola. De cette façon, Dr Ngola
n’aura pas à renoncer à son droit à la vie privée comme le demande M.
Higgs", écrivent dans une déclaration les avocats Christian Michaud et
Joël Étienne.
Un homme barbu assis dans un bureau parle à une caméra.

Christian Michaud, avocat, défend le Dr Robert Ngola. Il exige des
excuses du premier ministre envers son client.

Photo : Radio-Canada / Paul Landry

Ils rappellent que le médecin a fait l'objet de "l’enquête la plus
complète à laquelle un citoyen ait jamais été confronté dans
l'histoire du Nouveau-Brunswick" et qu'il a été entièrement disculpé
vendredi.

"Le premier ministre Higgs a utilisé son titre et son privilège
parlementaire pour attaquer un citoyen racialisé et un homme
innocent", déclarent-ils.

Les avocats ont donné sept jours au premier ministre pour s'excuser à
la suite de l'abandon des accusations. Ils envisagent des actions
supplémentaires s'ils n'en obtiennent pas d'ici la fin de la semaine.
À écouter :

    Un des avocats du Dr Ngola réagit aux propos de Blaine Higgs

Inacceptable, dit l'opposition

Les paroles du premier ministre ont été vivement dénoncées par
l’opposition à Fredericton.

Le chef du Parti vert du Nouveau-Brunswick, David Coon, a indiqué
qu’il était "inacceptable" pour le premier ministre "d’avoir un enjeu
personnellement avec un citoyen du Nouveau-Brunswick."
Le chef du Parti vert du Nouveau-Brunswick, David Coon.

Le chef du Parti vert du Nouveau-Brunswick, David Coon.

Photo : Radio-Canada

Le député libéral de Moncton-Centre, Rob Mckee, a pour sa part ajouté
qu’il était "inquiétant" que le premier ministre détienne de
l’information personnelle liée au Dr Ngola.

"Ça veut dire qu’il est en possession d’information privée que
seulement le bureau du procureur devrait avoir, en ce qui concerne la
poursuite publique contre le docteur, donc pourquoi est-ce que le
premier ministre est en possession de ces informations", a-t-il
demandé.
Rob McKee donne un point de presse

Le député libéral de Moncton Centre, Rob McKee.

Photo : CBC

"Ce n’est vraiment pas la façon dont un premier ministre devrait
agir", a ajouté Rob Mckee.

Blaine Higgs n’a pas voulu expliquer pourquoi il était en possession
d’informations personnelles concernant le Dr Ngola.

D'après le reportage de Michel Corriveau



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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 10:42:46 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE NB Mental Hospitals etc Why not ask Brad Green's
former assistant Chucky Murray and his blogging buddy Chucky Leblanc
about the document hereto attached?
To: viltide@nb.sympatico.ca, Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca,
blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca, denis.landry2@gnb.ca,
kris.austin@gnb.ca, andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca,
brian.gallant@gnb.ca, robert.mckee@gnb.ca>
Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com, Colin.McPhail@cbc.ca

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/tide-head-school-closure-policy-409-mayor-randy-hunter-1.5070564

Village mayor fights to give school on the chopping block a 2nd act
Small Tide Head School was voted to close after years of declining enrolment
Colin McPhail · CBC News · Posted: Mar 26, 2019 6:00 AM AT


Tide Head Village Office

6 Mountain St.
Tide Head, NB
Phone: (506) 789-6550
Fax: (506) 789-6553
Email: viltide@nb.sympatico.ca

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 09:07:11 -0400
Subject: RE NB Mental Hospitals etc Why not ask Brad Green's former
assistant Chucky Murray and his blogging buddy Chucky Leblanc about
the document hereto attached?
To: info@campbellton.org, normand.pelletier@dalhousie.ca
, lebrun@nb.aibn.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com, Alysha.Elliott@gnb.ca,
hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, Dr.France.Desrosiers@vitalitenb.ca

On 3/25/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/restigouche-hospital-youth-centre-ombud-report-northern-mayors-1.5066125
>
> North-south tension rises as leaders fear losing troubled youth mental
> health centre
>
> Northern mayors say moving centre out of Campbellton would be major loss
> Colin McPhail · CBC News · Posted: Mar 25, 2019 6:00 AM AT
>
> https://healthstandards.org/board-directors/george-weber/
>
> https://healthstandards.org/executive-team/
> Health Standards Organization
> 1150 Cyrville Road
> Ottawa, ON, Canada
> K1J 7S9
>
> Phone
> +1 613-738-3800
>
> Leslee J. Thompson ext 222
>
> George Weber
> Board Chair
>
> George Weber has served as President and CEO of the Royal Ottawa
> Health Care Group, one of four standalone specialized mental health
> facilities in Ontario, since 2007.
>
> Over the previous 26 years, he has been the Chief Executive Officer of
> a number of national organizations, such as the Canadian Red Cross and
> Canadian Dental Association, as well as various international
> organizations, including the International Red Cross and Red Crescent
> Societies in Geneva, Switzerland.
>
> Throughout his career, he has been involved in health and humanitarian
> work from multiple dimensions, including dental accreditation. George
> holds a Master’s degree from McGill University and has completed the
> Advanced Management Program from the Graduate School of Business
> Administration, Harvard University, the International Program for
> Board Members from the Institute of Management Development in
> Lausanne, Switzerland and the Directors course sponsored by the
> Institute of Corporate Directors and the Rotman School of Management,
> University of Toronto.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 14:30:57 -0400
> Subject: YO Mr Higgs So much for the ethics of Ombud NB too After all
> he is the same politically appointed lawyer N'esy Pas?
> To: premier@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
> robert.gauvin@gnb.ca, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca,
> andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca, brian.gallant@gnb.ca,
> robert.mckee@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca,
> Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca, megan.mitton@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca,
> rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca, michelle.conroy@gnb.ca,
> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, bruce.fitch@gnb.ca, mike.holland@gnb.ca, andre
> <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch@gmail.com, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, Frank.McKenna@td.com,
> Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca, Newsroom@globeandmail.com,
> premier@ontario.ca, scott.moe@gov.sk.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca,
> maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca, Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca, Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com
>
> ---------- Original  message ----------
> From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario
> <Premier@ontario.ca>
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 19:13:29 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: YO Mr Higgs So much for the ethics of your
> Acting Integrity Commissioner N'esy Pas?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly
> valued.
>
> You can be assured that all emails and letters are carefully read,
> reviewed and taken into consideration.
>
> There may be occasions when, given the issues you have raised and the
> need to address them effectively, we will forward a copy of your
> correspondence to the appropriate government official. Accordingly, a
> response may take several business days.
>
> Thanks again for your email.
> ______­­
>
> Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
> nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations.
>
> Nous tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
> considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.
>
> Dans certains cas, nous transmettrons votre message au ministère
> responsable afin que les questions soulevées puissent être traitées de
> la manière la plus efficace possible. En conséquence, plusieurs jours
> ouvrables pourraient s’écouler avant que nous puissions vous répondre.
>
> Merci encore pour votre courriel.
>
>
> ---------- Original  message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:13:26 -0400
> Subject: YO Mr Higgs So much for the ethics of your Acting Integrity
> Commissioner N'esy Pas?
> To: premier@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
> robert.gauvin@gnb.ca, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca,
> andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.cabrian.gallant@gnb.ca,
> robert.mckee@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca,
> Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca, megan.mitton@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca,
> rick.desaulniers@gnb.camichelle.conroy@gnb.ca,
> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, bruce.fitch@gnb.c, mike.holland@gnb.ca, andre
> andre@jafaust.com, jbosnitch@gmail.com
> Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, Frank.McKenna@td.com,
> Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca, Newsroom@globeandmail.com,
> premier@ontario.ca, scott.moe@gov.sk.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca,
> maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca, Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca, Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpOY5yzB9-8
>
> New Brunswick Ombudsman Charles Murray on report regarding The
> Restigouche Hostipal Centre!
> 119 views
> Charles Leblanc
> Published on Feb 8, 2019
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Murray, Charles (Ombud)"<Charles.Murray@gnb.ca>
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:16:15 +0000
> Subject: You wished to speak with me
> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> I have the advantage, sir, of having read many of your emails over the
> years.
>
>
> As such, I do not think a phone conversation between us, and
> specifically one which you might mistakenly assume was in response to
> your threat of legal action against me, is likely to prove a
> productive use of either of our time.
>
>
> If there is some specific matter about which you wish to communicate
> with me, feel free to email me with the full details and it will be
> given due consideration.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Charles Murray
>
> Ombud NB
>
> Acting Integrity Commissioner
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 03:09:18 -0300
> Subject: So your buddy Charles Murray has my documents now N'esy Pas
> Chucky Baby?
> To: charles.murray@gnb.ca, Charles.McAllister@snb.ca, premier
> <premier@gov.ab.ca>, "hugh.flemming"<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, oldmaison
> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, sallybrooks25
> <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, kim.macpherson@gnb.ca
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, briangallant10
> <briangallant10@gmail.com>, execdirgen <execdirgen@nbliberal.ca>
>
> CBC
> 3 new watchdogs appointed
> Premier names child and youth advocate, official languages
> commissioner and ombudsman
> CBC News Posted: Jun 14, 2013 3:24 PM
>
>
> The new ombudsman is Charles Murray, a civil servant and former
> political assistant to one-time Tory MP Elsie Wayne and to former PC
> cabinet minister Brad Green.
>
> "I am confident that their experience and education will help them to
> carry out their respective duties effectively," said Premier David
> Alward.
>
> He said Murray's appointment is not political.
>
> YEA RIGHT DAVEY BABY
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbDs3NUo-Nk
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Evelyn Greene
> To: charles.mcallister@snb.ca ; blaine.higgs@gnb.ca ;
> kim.macpherson@gnb.ca ; david.raymond.amos@gmail.com ;
> david.alward@gnb.ca ; charles.murray@gnb.ca ; madeleine.dube@gnb.ca ;
> ken.ross@gnb.ca
> Cc: don.forestell@gnb.ca ; dhashey@coxandpalmer.com
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 6:32 PM
> Subject: RE: Ambulance New Brunswick Inc.
>
>
> Dear Mr. McAllister:  Ambulance New Brunswick Inc. is also CROWN
> CORPORATION UNDER PART III OF THE PUBLIC LABOR RELATIONS ACT, AND WHY
> WOULD NOT NOT KNOW THAT.  PLEASE ADVISE.  ALSO, MS. RENEE LAFOREST
> DOES NOT GET BACK TO ME.  DO YOU HAVE HER EMAIL.  MY FRIEND SALLY AND
> I WENT THERE TODAY AND WAS TOLD THAT SHE WAS IN A MEETING.  SO WHO
> MAKES THE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THE BOOKS AS PER THE
> PUBLIC RIGHTS AS TAXPAYERS?
>
>
> EVELYN GREENE  ALSO, THE LETTERS PATENT ARE NOT WITNESSED AS PER THE
> REGULATIONS UNDER THE COMPANY'S ACT.  COULD YOU COMMENT ABOUT THAT.
> WHY WOULD IT HAVE GONE THRU YOUR OFFICE WITHOUT PROPER ATTENTION TO
> THE LAWYER SIGNING ON BEHALF OF THE CO. THAT ALL IS IN COMPLIANCE
> WHICH IT ISN'T. LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS FOR MEDAVIE EMS AND NB EMS AND
> TELL ME IF THEY WERE WITNESSED PROPERLY?
>
> SEND THIS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, INCLUDING DAVID HASHEY'S CLIENT,
> DONALD PETERS AND CHARLES MURRAY WHO BY WAY OF THE LEGISLATION ARE IN
> CONFLICT BY BEING ON THE BOARDS.  PLEASE CONFIRM?  I WANT TO KNOW HOW
> TO ACCESS THE BOOKS OF AMBULANCE N.B. INC. WHICH IS A PUBLIC
> CORPORATION WHICH IS PARTNERED WITH ANOTHER CO. N.B. EMS WHICH IS
> PARTNERED WITH MEDAVIE EMS MAKING THEM ALL SUBSIDIARIES AND ALL
> SHAREHOLDERS OF THE SUBSIDIARIES CAN GET LOAN GUARANTEES AND OTHER
> BENEFITS BUT WHY WAS THIS DEAL NOT PUT OUT FOR A COST ANALYSIS AND
> BIDDING AS PER THE RULES?
>
> ------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
> From: Charles.McAllister@snb.ca
> To: evelyngreene@live.ca
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 20:49:31 -0400
> Subject: Ambulance New Brunswick Inc.
>
>
> This is further to our discussion today.
>
>
>
> As indicated, this company is incorporated and subject to the
> Companies Act. You can access the Act at the following link:
>
> http://laws.gnb.ca/en/BrowseTitle
>
>
>
> The company’s head office location is as follows: Department  of
> Health, 520  King Street, Fredericton. You had asked me exactly where
> at 520 King Street is the head office. An ANB official indicates it is
> at the fourth floor of 520 King Street –which is occupied as well by
> offices of the Dept of Health.
>
>
>
> You indicated you wish to attend and examined certain records of ANB.
> I have provided you with a contact name: Renee LaForest (phone number
> 453-3759). It is our understanding she is the secretary-treasurer of
> ANB.
>
>
>
> I have indicated under the Companies Act, the relevant provisions
> regarding access is as follows:
>
>
>
> BOOKS OF THE COMPANY
>
> 104The company shall cause books to be kept by the secretary, or by
> some other officer or agent specially charged with that duty, wherein
> shall be kept recorded
>
> (a)a copy of the letters patent incorporating the company, and any
> supplementary letters patent, and of all by-laws of the company;
>
> (b)the names alphabetically arranged of all persons who are or have
> been shareholders;
>
> (c)the address and calling of every such person while a shareholder,
> as far as can be ascertained;
>
> (d)the number of shares of stock held by each shareholder;
>
> (e)the amounts paid in and remaining unpaid respectively on the stock
> of each shareholder;
>
> (f)all transfers of stocks, with the date and other particulars of the
> transfer, and the date of the entry thereof;
>
> (g)the names, addresses and callings of all persons who are or have
> been directors of the company, with the several dates at which each
> became or ceased to be a director;
>
> (h)minutes of all meetings of shareholders, directors and executive
> committee.
>
> R.S., c.33, s.103.
>
> 105(1)A book called the register of transfers shall be provided, and
> in the book shall be entered the particulars of every transfer of
> shares in the capital of the company.
>
> 105(2)One or more branch registers of transfers may be kept at places
> appointed by the directors.
>
> 105(3)Every transfer made at a branch registry shall be forthwith
> reported to the head office of the company.
>
> R.S., c.33, s.104.
>
> 106(1)Such books, with the exception of the minute books of the
> directors and executive committee, shall, during reasonable business
> hours of every day except Sundays and holidays, be kept open at the
> head office of the company or at such place as may be authorized under
> subsection (2) or (3) of this section, for the inspection of
> shareholders and creditors of the company and their personal
> representatives, and of any judgment creditor of a shareholder.
>
> 106(2)The Lieutenant-Governor in Council upon cause being shown to him
> may by order designate some other office of the company in the
> Province as the place where its books may be kept for the purposes of
> subsection (1).
>
> 106(3)Where an agent with an established place of business in the
> Province is appointed by the company for the purpose of recording the
> transfer of its shares, the book, in which are recorded the
> particulars mentioned in paragraphs 104(b), (c), (d), (e) and (f), may
> be kept at the agent’s place of business in the Province where the
> register of transfers is kept.
>
> 106(4)Every such shareholder, creditor or personal representative or
> judgment creditor may make extracts therefrom.
>
>
>
> The definition section of the Act states as follows:
>
> “shareholder” means every subscriber to, or holder of, stock in the
> company, and includes every member of a company without share capital
> and the personal representatives of the shareholder;
>
>
>
> As discussed with you, you do not seem to fall within the scope of
> section 106(1) to entitle you to see the records of ANB that are
> mentioned in section 104 of the Act.
>
>
>
> You have expressed the view you are entitled to see the above records
> and perhaps other records, notwithstanding that you do not fall
> presently within s 106(1). To what extent you have other legal rights
> to see the above records (or other records), you will need to pursue
> that viewpoint with ANB, not with myself.
>
>
>
> Charles McAllister
>
> Director- Companies Act
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Evelyn Greene
> To: ndesrosiers@ccla.org ; david.raymond.amos@gmail.com ;
> lucie.dubois@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ;
> sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca ; hubert.lacroix@cbc.ca ; andy.campbell@ctv.ca
> ; steve.murphy@ctv.ca ; w5@ctv.ca ; russomanno@wsgalaw.com ;
> kim.macpherson@gnb.ca ; heather.webb@gnb.ca ; david.alward@gnb.ca ;
> marie.claudeblais@gnb.ca ; madeleine.dube@gnb.ca ;
> charles.murray@gnb.ca
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:53 PM
> Subject: FW: Disclosure still outstanding
>
>
> I am sending this to you folks as a beginning of some information you
> need to know.  On May 13, 2011, the day I was beaten up by police at
> Ambulance New Brunswick on 24 Harold Doherty Dr., in Fredericton, I
> had originally agreed to meet with Charles LeBlanc for the first at
> the front of the Legislature.  I had spoken with my MLA Brian
> MacDonald on the 12th and I made him aware that I was doing the
> interview due to him and others not looking into the corruption.
>
> On May 13, 2011, I later learned that Premier David Alward and Health
> Minister Madeleine Dube had gone to Moncton or St. John and I believe
> it was to open an ambulance or to do with something about a new part
> of the hospital.  I sort of flagged this in mind because I thought
> this is convenient that they are both out of town when I got beaten.
>
> I had arranged a few days earlier to meet Charles LeBlanc however,
> that morning I wrote him an email and cancelled saying I was not well
> which was true as is in the police records when they charged me.
> However, the timeline to deliver the Right to Information was up that
> day and in the afternoon I forced myself to go downtown and serve
> them.  I first went to Cox and Palmer Law Firm, then to the Court
> House to see Craig Carleton and then to the N.B. Police Commission and
> secretary/receptionist Julie Williams accepted the documents.
>
> Then I went to Ambulance N.B. where they seemingly were expecting me.
> I felt then as I do today that they were call by someone and were
> expecting me.
>
> 1. On the day of that Friday, May 13, 2011, I had an email from
> Charles LeBlanc saying all of a sudden his blog was shut down.
> However, as I reported at the time, I smelled a rat and I told Mr.
> LeBlanc this and later after that day I asked to do an interview in
> front of the Justice Bld. and Charles LeBlanc refused, saying he was
> interviewing Mayor Woodside at City Hall.  Then there was this big ten
> minute or more interview on Charles' blog with the Mayor and the Mayor
> was saying things like, "When I pick you up in the winter and give you
> a drive ........ (this was to Charles).  I smelled a rat then as I do
> not and I sent Charles a letter and copied all government heads saying
> he would make the perfect stooge for the mayor and others.
>
> Look at the next few emails, please.
>
> It was Sally Brooks who wanted me to meet with her and Charles LeBlanc
> at the coffee shop last week and I told Sally I did not trust him.
> She said he has ADHD and is harmless and that when he was in court he
> could hardly talk.  I told her that this did not compute in my mind,
> because he can stand in front of the police station on another day and
> blurt the hell out of himself yelling things at the police and writing
> all this stuff on the blog.  Sally said just come and see.  That
> morning, Charles LeBlanc could hardly look me in the fact and I told
> Sally that and she said she noticed but she felt it was nothing.  In
> fact, I gave him $10 for coffee and he took our picture and put it on
> the blog.  Howevr, he wanted to only put things on the blog which was
> really Sally and My blog but he wanted to control what went in and
> out.  For ex. he did not want to print anything about the letter I
> wrote the Police Commission and I copied other people, including David
> Amos who to this date, I have not yet met.  However, David does speak
> the truth to my mind.  He may be blunt, but he says it like it is.  I
> told Sally I thought Charles and David were friends behind closed
> doors, but I have now changed that idea.  For ex. at no time did
> Charles LeBlanc ever tell me about Andre Murray's plight with the same
> police officer who beat me, Cst. Nancy Rideout nor did he mention any
> of the facts, but knew my story.  I just recently learned of Andre
> Murray and the common denomination we have in common:  "police abuse".
>
> Please read the next few emails and see what you think.  Then on
> Friday, Sally said she met with Charles at his house and she was late
> to meet me for lunch.  She did not mention that they were walking on
> the street as has been written on our blog.  However, Sally told me to
> just let Charles do the whole process of the blog and not send
> anything to him but brief comments as Charles is not well enough to
> understand my topics of police commission willfull blindness.  I said
> okay, but she did not say they were together on the streets nor
> mention anything like that, just that she was late because of doing
> errands.
>
> Please remember that nothing about my story was ever written in the
> Brunswick Newspaper owned by irving and this is the case with Mr.
> Andre Murray.  Why?  Why would Jacques Poitras refuse to write
> anything and basically threw me out of the CBC a couple weeks ago,
> saying I wrote his boss, Hubert Lacroix.  I asked Mr. Lacrois since
> that time if Mr. Poitras has any connection with the female crown
> prosecutor, Ms. Poitras in Bathurst, N.B.
>
> Then someone wrote recently that our finance minister, mr. Higgs used
> to work for Irvings.
>
> I have continually asked if Irving or his son, Kenneth, who up and
> left the Irvings shortly after my beating took place and went to
> Kinross Gold may have anything to do with Ambulance N.B. and the big
> contract its partner, Medavie EMS which is a private, for-profit co.
> that has common shares and because it is a private co., the
> shareholders do not need to be mentioned at corporate records due to
> N.B. legislative statute under Private Act and corporations.  For ex.,
> Medavie EMS partnered with NB EMS and that too is partnered with
> Ambulance N.B.  They won a lucrative bid for sending a fleet of
> ambulances from Canada to Trinidad for $90 million a year.  Was it in
> our newspaper.  I did not see it.  Also, I have shared with many of
> you the corporate documents showing irregularities in the letters
> patent and the incorporation of Medavie EMS which is signed by a
> lawyer in Halifax who is with the law firm, Stewart McKelvey who
> represents Ambulance N.B. Inc.  I wrote the Trinidad Government and I
> got hold of the paper from Trinidad, the TNT Mirror saying the
> Attorney General was concerned about irregularities in the contract
> and Medavie EMS had written asking what was the hold up.  I then
> forwarded my story about getting beaten up at Ambulance NB Inc. and
> there was no investigation albeit I informed the Premier, David Alward
> and all other ministers.  It is my understanding too that in order for
> a P3 partnership that EMS set up with Ambulance NB it is supposed to
> be okayed with the Cabinet.  In fact the Minister has to sign off on
> it.  However, it was signed by a different Minister, Jack Keir, on
> behalf of Minister Greg Byrne who Mr. Keir said was out of the country
> at the time.  I asked the secretaries at Service NB who Jack Keir is
> and they did not know, but I later found out and called Mr. Keir.  He
> told me he is no longer the minister and did not know what he was
> signing, saying he is a North shore, St. John New Brunswicker and not
> a lawyer.  I have the documentation and it is questionable.  I sent
> this information to Finance Minister Blaine Higgs and he did not
> respond.  I went to see Kim MacPherson, our auditor general and she
> said she had no obligation to report it.  She said she knew nothing
> about this P3 deal and she would not talk further, telling her
> secretary, Heather, to tell me she could not help me in my plight for
> justice and almost being beaten to death while wearing an implanted
> heart defibrillator and reported sick to the paramedic station.  This
> is documented by others, not just me.
>
> Then I checked the records for Ambulance N.B. Inc. and find that the
> lawyer for the Minister of Health, Charles Murray is on the Board of
> Directors, as is Donald J. Peters the CEO of Horizon Health Network
> also known as Regional Health Authority B and is over the Dr. Everett
> Chalmers Hospital where my problems first stemmed.  It is scary
> really.
>
> Pls. read on.
>
> Evelyn Greene
>
> Wait for the next few emails and then let me know what you think of
> all of this please, especially the Canadian Civil Liberties Assoc. who
> know I contacted them long ago about my plight and they said they
> could not help.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:08:19 -0800
> From: sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca
> Subject: Re: Disclosure still outstanding
> To: evelyngreene@live.ca
>
>
>
>
> brilliant!
>
> This is really good, really concise and absolutely puts the pressure
> on. Well done Evelyn.
>
> STOP PRESS: LAXATIVE SALES BOTTOM OUT IN NEW BRUNSWICK!
> From: Evelyn Greene <evelyngreene@live.ca>
> To: christopher.lavigne@gnb.ca
> Cc: luc.labonte@gnb.ca; pierre.castonguay@gnb.ca;
> madeleine.dube@gnb.ca; justice.comments@gnb.ca;
> sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca; wishart.john@dailygleaner.com;
> wylie1@nb.sympatico.ca; mboudreau@stu.ca; w5@ctv.ca;
> hubert.lacroix@cbc.ca; jacques.poitras@cbc.ca; info@atlanticalarm.com;
> keith.ball@gnb.ca; kimthomas@ag.gov.tt
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:30:37 PM
> Subject: Disclosure still outstanding
>
>
>
> Mr. Lavigne:
>
> I still have not received confirmation that you went back to the
> police and Ambulance N.B. to obtain the rest of the answers to the
> questions you posed to them in your letter of Dec. 2011 about the CCTV
> evidence and the Audio evidence.
>
> (1)  Surely you are not going to accept the perjured evidence of Robin
> O'Hara and go ahead now and subpoena the main information straight
> from Atlantic alarm and sound right off the original data base or
> where it is initially (originally) recorded?  You need this according
> to the head of the company.
>
> (2)  Where is the evidence of the 911 call from Ambulance N.B. to the
> police.
>
> (3)  Did you get the statement from the Ambulance N.B. and the Police
> why the police were called in the first place when I was sitting
> quietly, and felt sick, and was no harm to myself or anyone else.  Why
> was that called placed to the police and why did four police officers
> and four cars arrive when it was not even an emergency?  Do you not
> see that my Charter rights were violated to a high (not low or
> moderate degree) ending up with me having bodily injury and no police
> report made out that I have seen, and as per the rules of the Police
> Act, when personal injury happenes to a person in custody?
>
> (4)  Why did the police investigate themselves when I made a complaint
> of abuse against them to the Chief of Police?  Who investigated this
> and where are their reports?
>
> (5)  Where is the report of NCO Horseman when he took my complaints
> and my statement?  What did he say?
>
> (6)  I need the answers requested from David Banks, the dispatch head
> at the police station for all 911 calls.
>
> (7)  Did you ask the police to explain the different dispatchers on
> the call and the questions posed to the crown about the video
> tampering evidence supplied by Ms. Brooks?
>
> (8)  Judge Richards had said to prosecutor Rose Campbell that Greene
> needs a lawyer and she was looking into, but then a new Judge (Judge
> Jackson) came on the case and I told him about this but he did not
> look into it.
>
> (9)  Where are the answers to the other questions you posed such as
> why Constable Rideout was on the phone while in the police car taking
> me to Headquarters and reporting that I was loud and out of control
> but this was not picked up on the audio of the call.
>
> (10)Why were the ambulance dispatched to 24 Doherty Drive for almost 8
> minutes after I was taken to headquarters?  I need their reports as to
> why and what they were doing there?  I have asked Fire Chief Toole who
> did not respond.  You need to get this information even if it is by
> subpoena.
>
> (11)  Where are the phone records of all calls made to Ambulance N.B.
> at 24 Harold Doherty Dr. on the 13th of May?  Were any from Cox and
> Palmer or from the NB Police Commission or the Court House.
>
> (12)  I sent you recent conflicting statements from representatives
> from Atlantic Alarm and Sound.  The owner had obviously not
> anticipated that I would contact the service provider who obviously
> told the truth.  What are you doing about that, if anything?  And if
> nothing, why not, please explain?
> (
> (13)  You have the capacity to send the CCTV video to the crime lab in
> Halifax (RCMP) so why has this not yet been done which would add their
> input to this matter?  Are you not wanting to know the truth here Mr.
> Lavigne because it would most likely cost less than $500 and your are
> spending far more than that on continuing on with this bogus charge at
> great expense to the public purse and the court's time?
>
> (14).  Much other evidence is sent to the crime lab for analyses so
> why is this case different?  Please explain that.
>
> (15).  The McNeil case was decided by the Supreme Court of Canada and
> that includes all disclosure must be given to the Defendant,
> regardless of privacy issues or anything else.  Again what are you
> doing to get the original documentation of the CCTV video.  The
> service co-ordinator said if one camera is not working, then the
> others take over.  There are four cameras surrounding the paramedic
> door at Ambulance N.B. Paramedic Bay and clearly picked up other
> movement that day, but did have four minute splitting here and there.
> The pictures that do take are for the most part visible so it is not a
> case of the camera set low for visibility issues?
>
> (16)  The expert from Outreach Productions wrote down that a police
> officer magically appears from no where on the CCTV camera?  What did
> you learn about that?
>
> I need answers to these questions and I am asking once more to review
> my file in its entirety and have the times set so that the photocopies
> can be made at that time.  I asked Simonne of the Prosecutor's office
> for copies and she said I would have to come back.  When I came back,
> she had left for home early and when I picked up the documents early
> the next week, many of the documents I requested to be photocopies
> were not included.  There was one email or report that had the word
> dizzy typed out like this "d-i-z-z-y".  I suspect that was one of the
> officers or paramedics who reported I told them I felt dizzy that day
> which i did.  Why would this be concealed now and
>
> (17)  Have you now reviewed all of the evidence, including the CCTV
> video and audio and my doctor's notes and the notes I submitted
> regarding the officer who was let off a charge in Ont. as he has
> hypoglycemia which I have and is in the police reports?
>
> (18)  You know that Cst. Rideout left my angina meds. (nitro) in my
> car with my purse and would not let me have it before going to
> headquarters and then $150 went missing out of my purse when it was
> returned so that I would not have the cash on hand to get my impounded
> car.  I also had to call a taxi for a drive back across the river to
> where my car was impounded and for some reason their debit machines
> were not working.
>
> (19)  I have a lifeline contract with Phillips Lifeline and I have
> told them of this issue.  My lifeline box which is connected to the
> hospital has not worked for some time and lifeline calls me every
> night at 7 p.m. to ensure I am okay.  If they do not hear form me,
> they call the ambulance.  Not long ago, I did not hear the phone ring
> and they sent the ambulance and fire truck.  I went to the door and
> said I did not hear the phone ring and I was listenening for it and
> told them I was okay.  Phillips lifeline then called the paramedics
> and was told by the paramedics "that she (Greene) was not home.  I
> asked Lifeline to document this information as it is just one part of
> the total picture of lies and corruption from Ambulance employeess.
> Your job, I believe, is to ask whey they lied to lifeline?  It is
> documented so you could contact them directly.
>
> I look forward to receiving your response to this letter which I will
> drop off at the Crown's office next week in hard copy so that if you
> fail to address these questions, I will use them later for appeal
> purposes as is the case with all the documentation I asked for to date
> and did not receive.  Also perphas you can ask why I have not been
> allowed a lawyer as per Judge Richards question about that to
> Prosecutor Rose Campbell?
>
> Evelyn Greene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> To: <oldmaison@yahoo.com>; <T.J.Burke@gnb.ca>; <john.foran@gnb.ca>;
> <Wayne.STEEVES@gnb.ca>; <frederic.loiseau@fredericton.ca>;
> <tony.whalen@gnb.ca>
> Cc: <abel.leblanc@gnb.ca>; <jack.keir@gnb.ca>; <premier@gnb.ca>;
> <Jeannot.VOLPE@gnb.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:08 AM
> Subject: Hells Angels EH Chucky Leblanc? When was the last time you or
> the Irvings or the RCMP saw one ride a Panhead alone?
>
>
> Remember these old emails of yours Chucky Baby? Post this photo of my
> nasty arse I Double Dog Dare Ya to Frenchy. At least my baby boy's
> little arse is far more innocent looking  than Shawny Baby Graham's
> black eye EH Frenchy?
>
> Small wonder that I didn't allow him anywhere near and of Cardinal
> Law's nasty Boyz in Beantown EH?
>
> You must I figured out by now that I hate diddlers and especiallly the
> ones who pretend to be oh so pious and above us all. By now you must
> at least understand one of the reasons I supported Byron Prior years
> ago in his quest for justice but I was always more concerned about
> about what he knows about Johnny Crosbie, the Haliburton dudes and our
> dead fish. But you don't know the first thing about that do ya? It
> must be because not one of your five brians knows how to read Nest Pas?
>
> HELL ANGELS FROM MONTREAL LOOKING FOR CHARLES LEBLANC????
> by Charles LeBlanc Saturday, Jun. 12, 2004 at 11:26 AM
>
> Thursday morning, I showed up at the Legislature to use the computer
> at the Library.
> I was told by security that two rough looking individuals walked
> through the doors and asked for a Charles Leblanc?
> They described the guys as rough looking and one of them had a long
> gray beard with a leather jacket!
> At first, I believe it was the Hell Angels coming down from Montreal
> for a hit on Charles.
>
> Hours later, I seen my bigot buddy Matthew Glenn and he was in front
> of the Legislature with his blowhorn.
> For you people who don't know the bigot? He's the one who started the
> Anglo Society. I seen him preaching to three young kids and of course
> I butt in and said - Hey Bigot??? Why don't you bigot go home?
>
> Minutes later, we were approached by two guys and they asked politely
> –Where can we locate a Charles LeBlanc???
> In a matter of seconds, the bigot quickly pointed at me. I said to
> myself - Ohhh?? Thanks a lot Bigot!!!
>
> At the end? It was a guy named David Amos and I guess that he's
> running at an independent in the riding of Fundy Royal. The guy have
> been living in the area of Boston and he's been following my updates
> on the internet. I'm telling you that the information highway is a
> great way to spread the message to the rest of the world!
>
> We talked for around 30 minutes and it was nice to see the bigot, me
> and David Amos together debating our own little concern issue. We all
> have our own issues and it's too bad that we cannot unite and fight
> but that's the way Canadians do things. They remind silent until the
> Government really pissed them all and go out and vote the party in
> power out of office.
>
> What did I tell you people in the past? Someone is
> going to crack up one of these days and I know for a
> fact the area targeted is going to be the Legislature.
>
> Two weeks later you wrote this Chucky
>
> "There's always undercovers cops around but only when the House is in
> session. As God as my witness I hope nothing happens but it's just a
> matter of time till someone is push over the edge.
>
> I guess a guy name David Amos was shown the door yesterday at the
> Legislature. This guy is running as an Independent candidate in the
> riding of Fundy Royal. I met the guy over the net and he has a beef
> with our political bureaucrats. I admire people fighting for what they
> believe in but you can't get carried away.
>
> I guess in this case? He wanted to speak from the Gallery and that's a
> big faux pas!"
>
> After you continued to make fun of me throughout the summer of 2004
> amongst the other things I forwarded to you was an old joke about my
> drunken Irish Catholic in laws in Beantown. N'est Pas? It must have
> pissed you off as I tortured the Hell out of your buddy Bernie Richard
> the nasty Ombudsman too before my wife and I and a lawyer visited the
> Police Commission. In response you sent photos of your old soon to be
> dead dog comparing it to me. I laughed the photos were taken by your
> Fake Left friends and emailed to you. Your big Faux Pas was that you
> were so dumb you sent me their email address too. Thus in a wink of an
> eye I knew and had the proof of who was behind you and pulling your
> strings. Do they remember my conversations with them last year? I do.
> The question is did I record them as they made liars out of themselves.
> LOL EH? Stay tuned Frenchy.
>
> When you saw that I was falsely imprisoned in Boston on October 1st,
> 2004 you largely shut up and never responded to my emails over the
> course of the past four years because you knew what I did with them
> after that. As the old Joke goes many a true word is said in jest and
> you did not like other people reading your nonsense to me. Correct?
>
> Years after that old joke I sent you went around. The Yankees made a
> movie starring Jack Nicholson based on Whitey's life and times. It is
> entitled "The Departed". Perhaps the drunken Catholic in you should
> rent it sometime with your welfare dimes. Listen closely to what ol
> Jacky Boy says about your Church and their very corrupt doings.
>
> My Keith ancestors and I were not alone in our contempt towards your
> church EH? Did your Mama tell you that the Keiths came out of northern
> Germany to settle in Scotland in order to escape your nasty Popes and
> their cohorts? Do you understand that after the shit was settled in
> 1755 the Frenchmen in Canada who did not wish to be shipped out to
> other French holdings swore allegiance to the British Crown? What
> makes you dudes think that you can change the deal now especially in
> light of the fact every Indian demands that we hold up to all the
> other deals our ancestors made long before any of us were born? The
> Scottish part of you should shove that Acadian flag along with its
> flagpole up your French arse Chucky Baby. Is that clear or COR enough
> for you?
>
> To rub it in I will tell you that after my father died my Mama married
> Loyd Nickerson a member of the COR Party who was also the Chief
> Electoral Officer of New Brunswick. One big reason I ran in Fundy is
> that there are damn few French men registered to vote and not many
> Catholic churches in Kings County. I  ain't a bigot. I love French
> Catholic women. Hell I was the first of my family that I know of who
> married a Catholic woman.  It is their greedy Catholic brothers that I
> hate be they either French or Irish or whatever. I believe they call
> this shit conflict of colours Orange versus Green  not biker bullshit
> as you claimed about me. I don't wear Biker colours I where the
> colours of My Clan and I have many friends.  Quite possibly many more
> true French ones than you do. How can you have true friends at all if
> they can't trust you. Do your even believe yourself and your obvious
> Bullshit?
>
> How do you sleep at night knowing yourself as you do? Why do you
> make fun of a fellow Maritimer whose family was destroyed by the
> very people you pretend to complain about? Never forget I am from
> Dorchester Frenchy and Ivan Cormier (AKA the Beast) was on my paper
> route and I liked and admired him and his friends and their art
> particularly Killer Karl Krupp and the Cuban. Their Bullshit was flat
> out entertaining and not malicious at all. Yours definitely is
> malicious and not funny at all. No Class Bobby Bass had way more class
> in his worst fart than you do in your whole soul. I must say venting
> some of my venom towards you is definitely good for my savage soul. As
> a southern friend of mine would say when I was feeling mean years ago
> "Ya gots to get the poison out or ya die just don't spit out in my
> direction. Save it for somebody who deserves it."
>
> BTW, the man who sold me that old Panhead that your cop buddies in Fat
> Fred City stole from me last summer was a of French Cathlolic heritage
> out of Quebec. He was a really good friend of mine and I named my bike
> after him and his wife. His family moved from Quebec to Vermont about
> a hundred years ago when your greedy priests demanded that the poor
> folks build another big fancy church across the road from the one they
> just built. So they crossed the border, built a simple church and went
> about the pursuit of happiness in a country that is supposed to keep
> church and state separate and have only one official language. Go try
> your crybaby French welfare nonsense in New Hampshire or Vermont
> sometime Chucky and see if you come back in one piece. I would pay
> money I don't have to watch that circus tent unfold. The Pope's
> mission is to keep you dudes poor and dumb. Get it Frenchy? If not ask
> your hero Spinksy Baby to argue me as if I care what any of you think.
> I would argue him right after that chickenshit IDs himself and proves
> to me and everyone else that he is not Brent Taylor.
>
> I Double Dog Dare Ya to post this email in his blog. I am posting it
> deep in your buddy the Gypsy's blog before I post it in mine. That is
> if he has still maintained his integrity after all my stress tests
> last week. You dudes kissing the "The General Blogger" nasty arse was
> too much for me to stand. It was too funny that T. J Burke blocked my
> defence of your blatant stupidity N'est Pas?
>
> BTW one of my wife's cousins Robert T. Kickham you remember the evil
> ex banker who turned into the evil priest is still Cardinal O'Malley's
> secretary in Beantown as far as I know. Why don't you sing their
> priases on the Internet this Easter and ask that all the corrupt
> Catholics to pray that I be crucified by the RCMP soon? I must ask you
> Chucky why did you support diddlers for years and then suddenly turn
> coat and support Byron Prior's pursuit of justice after ignoring the
> fact that I introduced you two to each other four years ago?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> P.S.  For the record Chucky this joke is still funny to me and my arse
> and my balls are as big as ever. Ain't it funny how time slips away
> and yet some things remain the same? Everybody knows I find you
> contemptible and why that is so. I do wish you a long life so that you
> can recall all your sins countless times with your five brains.
> However I must turn the page my personal history and go back to how I
> once was before I am dust once more. Life is too short to argue with
> liars for long or dance with ugly women so to speak. My Baby Boy turns
> 18 this year thus my job of raising him is largely done. He and his
> sisters are my best piece work. They all have the records of all my
> work including this email. (Obviously I sent it from one of my other
> email accounts to one of my son's for safe keeping before I save it
> digitally and print it as well.) Before long my son will be the Chief
> of our Clan and it will be his job to defend my integrity and my deeds
> for the benefit of my seed as I grin proudly from the grave. He is
> quite simply the best man I ever met and truly a man of his word.
> Never underestimate my darling daughters they are tigers in their own
> right and I raised them not to take shit from anyone. They may prove
> to be the most trouble for the unethical smiling bastards that are the
> powers that be right now.
>
> Between men I asked my son to piss on the graves of my enemies someday
> if I could not do so and he promised that he would. I would not ask my
> little Darlins to do such a thing out of respect to their gender. As
> part of my Blood Feud you made the list Chucky Baby. Your Mama will
> understand why I told my son that in order to pay proper respect to
> from Whence We Came he really should drink a lot of Keiths beer before
> he does so. Whereas neither of us like the taste of beer I will leave
> him to his own chosen poison as long as he enjoys the in and out of it all.
>
> As for me I plan to Rest in Peace in Dorchester someday happy in
> knowing the fact that  I have left at least four very decent folk
> behind me on this planet. My skull like Yorick's of old will grin like
> Hell thinking about the fact that the prevailing winds will blow the
> smell of my rotting corpse towards your old stomping grounds where you
> no doubt will be buried without any children at all to visit your
> bones. If you do have kids or an ex wife or two I never read where you
> admitted it. Dudes like you and your fans such as Dean Roger Ray and
> the Depupty Dog Robert F. O'Meara are too selfish to make decent
> loving fathers anyway. If there truly is a Hell like in your dreams
> Chucky, I will look for you there. I suspect the Devil would promote
> me to Sergeant at Arms and give me a Black Rod as soon as I landed in
> order to cram it up your nasty French arse. I have no doubt its hard
> to get good help in Hell and Satan will need a lot of help pounding on
> all the evil priests, bankers, lawyers, cops, politicians and the
> liars like you who supported their malice in this wonderful old world.
> N'est Pas?
>
> Can one of your five brains tell that you have an ethical pigheaded
> Maritimer you hates you with a very justifiable passion Chucky Baby?
> Whereas your buddy Shawny Baby Graham enjoys jokes maybe he will enjoy
> this one since it is on you. It is not my joke and I give credit where
> credit is due. I hate it when you or your buddies Dean Roger Ray or
> the Yankee Stevey Boy Erickson steal my words and claim them as their
> own while you try to impeach my character at the same time. If anyone
> doubts that I am the first Chief of the Amos Clan who has every right
> and duty to defend it fiercely perhaps he should query the dockets of
> the US District Court in Concord New Hampshire if he knows how.
> Whereas everything in the Catholic's heaven and hell is down in three
> I file My Clan's declaration of Independence for the Keiths within
> three affidavits in three different matters. I do not file nuisance
> lawsuits as Yankee blogger hero claims. Danny Boy can post the photo
> of my nasty arse, my boy and my panhead on the Internet with my
> knowledge and assent and my blessings and thanx as well. However I
> still own the rights to it. I need it for my book about you Fake Left
> Creeps on Fat Fred city and elsewhere. It may be the only thing that I
> leave my kids that could be worth something someday. Maritimers do
> love juicy gossip N'est Pas?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> Date:    Fri, 18 Oct 2002 02:02:22 -0400
> From:    Rollo Tomasi rollotomasi@COMCAST.NET
> Subject: Bingo-Playing Golden-Age Golden Glove Catholic Gang Members
> Lay Waste to Bay State
>
> Boston - First it was financial scandals, followed by Notre Dame
> football teams that really sucked, then pederast priests. Now it appears
> that bingo, the fourth and some would say most important pillar of the
> Roman Catholic Church, is on the verge of self-destruction.
>
> Yesterday members of the Boston Police Department SWAT team, two
> divisions of the Massachusetts National Guard and the US Army's elite
> Delta Force had to be called in to stop a riot that had broken out at the
> Whitey Bulger Memorial Senior Citizen Center at St. Bernadette's
> Cathedral in the so-called "Southie" section of Beantown.
>
> "Southie," populated mostly by unemployed drunk Irish immigrants,
> became well-known in the 1970s as a symbol of protest against racial
> integration, and according to statistics released by the US Census Bureau,
> contains the highest concentration of dim-witted white people in the world.
>
> Although details at this point are sketchy, it appears that the cause of
> the
> riot was dissatisfaction over new rules limiting bingo participants to one
> colostomy bag per person.
>
> "I know these old-timers can play bingo all night," said Seamus O'Connor,
> director of activities at the Bulger Center, "But, my god, seven colostomy
> bags?!  C'mon, we all know they were smuggling in contraband and
> controlled substances.  Heck, we even found one hastily discarded bag
> filled with two gallons of Curacao.  I mean, give me a break.  Who pisses
> blue anyway?"
>
> The Diocese of Boston officially denied any responsibility for the riot.
> John Cardinal O'Donnell, Archbishop of the Diocese, angrily attacked the
> press for what he termed "sloppy reporting by biased reporters who have
> been duped by Protestant agitprop."
>
> Cardinal O'Donnell assumed a defiant posture as he met with members of
> the press.  "I'm sick and tired of all the anti-Irish prejudice in
> American society.
> You read the newspapers and you'd think that all we Irish do is drink,
> fight
> and whore around." O'Donnell then chugged a bottle of Guinness Stout,
> pinched his secretary on her posterior, made two fists with his hands and
> said,
> "And I'll lick any man who says otherwise."
> __
> by William Grim
> (c) Copyright 2002 Broken Newz
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charlie leblanc
> To: David Amos
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Good Day Charlie say het to Andy for me
>
>
> merci
>
> David Amos <motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ; johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ;
> oldmaison1@yahoo.ca ; wayne.STEEVES@gnb.ca ; Cadman.C@parl.gc.ca ;
> Cotler.I@parl.gc.ca ; Easter.W@parl.gc.ca ; Efford.J@parl.gc.ca ;
> Graham.B@parl.gc.ca ; 'Stephen Harper' ; Jack Layton ;
> MacAulay.L@parl.gc.ca ; McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Parrish.C@parl.gc.ca
> ; Scott.A@parl.gc.ca ; Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca ; Zed.P@parl.gc.ca ;
> info@cjc-ccm.gc.ca ; justice@gov.nl.ca ; Canadian Justice Review Board
> ; J. D. Kuntz ; webmaster@canadalawcourts.com ; Brent Taylor ;
> gbudden@buddenmorris.com ; frontline@wgbh.org
> Cc: info@pco-bcp.gc.ca ; strategis@ic.gc.ca ; JackMCOPA@aol.com ;
> user.cru@pol.state.ma.us ; plypd@four.net ; corp.website@sunlife.com ;
> martine.turcotte@bell.ca ; cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ;
> Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca ; Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca ; pm@pm.gc.ca ;
> jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; diane.bourque@flsc.ca ; police@fredericton.ca
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:13 PM
> Subject: Good Day Charlie say het to Andy for me
>
>
>      Hey Andy do ya remember this email I sent before the last I came
> home? I bet Charlie Leblanc don't just as the other LeBlanc dude
> didn't want to talk fishing and you didn't want to talk about
> soliciting. Since I have left the last thing you want to talk about is
> Indians EH? What is you dudes do other than suck Martin's arse?
>
>        It seems the Frenchman who represents from Beauséjour, the area
> I was born in forgot the fact that both he and his wife are lawyers.
> Obviously I didn't. I also never forgot how Chréitian waltzed on down
> to Beauséjour years ago and his buddy Mulroney allowed him to have a
> seat without opposition except from a lady in CoR from Dorchester. You
> remember that place don't Charlie? I grew up just down the road from
> ya. What do you think will do the other LeBlanc Dude will do  when he
> receives the same material you did last year? I don't trust Frenchmen
> who are lawyers do you? Ask the other Frenchman you admire Bernard
> Richard who is a lawyer from Shediac/Cape Pele area why that is. What
> do ya think should I stress test the new kid on the block, Victor
> Boudreau. I know he ain't a lawyer but never the less he is still a
> god damned Frenchman. I think most Frenchmen are just like you Charles
> LeBlanc. Greedy Bullshiters. However I really love the French ladies.
> So does that make me all bad? Am I pissing anybody off yet? Good.
> Trust nobody is half as mad as I am right now but at least I am still
> having fun. I am just giggling up a storm at the thought of how many
> people are cursing my name :)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: dwatch@web.net
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:32 PM
> Subject: Read real slow then forget what is politically correct.
>
> Deal with your own conscience. After that try to think of a good
> reason why I should not run for
> Parliament and at least speak my mind about the sad state of our affairs.
>
> You know who I am. If you don't, trust me, you are way behind the eight
> ball.
>
> Once I make my mark in the American Justice System and political
> process, I am coming home
> to stress test the ethics of many a lawyer/politician in my nativeland
> during the course of the next
> federal election. My question to all of you will be why did you wait
> for me to say something? Am I
> the only one paying any attention. Even Jesus got mad a time or two
> and tore up a temple when
> he saw all the money changing hands in a place that should not be
> concerned about such things.
> But forget about the money for a minute.
>
> What did he have to say about anyone that harmed a child?
> Rest assured I will remind you. Although Iain't religious, I must say
> that Jesus had more of sand
> than most men and he made some very good points about what is right
> and what is wrong. Can any
> of you even hold a candle to Byron? He has at least one friend that
> will back him up all the way
> down the line.
>
> I don't mind dying it is what I didn't do while I was living that will
> haunt me in in my grave. What is the
> golden rule these days? Is it truly a fact that he with the gold makes
> the rules. Do you think voters
> agree with that fact? What say you?
>
> Canadian Corruption
> Sexual Abuse & Political & Legal Conspiracy.
> RCMP Incompetence & Cover up.
> Priors Of Grand Bank NFLD Canada
>
> How do I get a corrupt legal system to investigate, charge and convict
> itself?
> After years of asking the Canadian Legal System to do its job, it's
> long past time to inform
> the public myself about this lack of action or justice.
>
> If T. Alex Hickman, Justice Minister, 1966 to 1979 also Health
> Minister 1968 to 1969 and
> Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Newfoundland 1979 to 2000, 34 YEARS
> OF
> COMPLETE LEGAL SYSTEMS CONTROL,at 41 years of age, rapes and impregnates
> your younger sister Susan, at 12 years old, and in grade 8, what would you
> do?
> At 12 years old she was the youngest child ever,in Grand Bank,to have a
> baby.
>
> I am willing to take any tests and answer all questions regarding my
> entire life. All he has to
> do is take one blood test. It's time for him to stop manipulating our
> legal system and face the
> truth which I have been telling the legal System,and anyone else who
> would listen, all of my life.
> I didn't just awake one morning and decide to accuse the most powerful
> and most corrupt legal
> animal in this province. I have had, no childhood, no education, no
> family, no hometown, no
> self- esteem or self-respect and no past, present or future as a
> contributing person. By the time
> I was 14 years old I was responsible for 9 younger children, all of us
> abused and molested while
> our hometown either joined in, bothered us about our situation, or
> looked the other way and said
>  we were all trouble. and so on.......till the end.
>
> If anyone wishes to have the complete police statement contact me at
> alltrue@roadrunner.nf.net or
> telephone 709-834-9822. If I cannot reply I have been arrested. Please
> contact pm@pm.gc.ca or
> paul@paulmartin.ca and tell him the Priors of Grand Bank NF require
> Justice immediately.
>
> Thank You for helping.END OF WEB SITE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Correspondance Deputy Prime Minister/Vice premier ministre"
> dpm@pm.gc.ca
> To: davidamos@comcast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:34 PM
> Subject: Regarding your e-mail
>
>  If you wish to receive a response to your comments addressed to the
> Deputy Prime Minister
> and Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, please
> include your return mailing
> address along with your original e-mail message.
>
> All official responses will be sent by regular mail.
>
> If you wish to send correspondence addressed to the Minister through
> the regular mail, please
> use the following mailing address:
>
> The Honourable A. Anne McLellan
> Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Safety
> and Emergency Preparedness
> 340 Laurier Avenue West
> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0P8
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: Correspondance Deputy Prime Minister/Vice premier ministre
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Regarding your e-mail
>
> I already received Anne's response. Can't you people read what you wrote to
> me?
>
> Why else would I be so pissed off? I am who I say I am and that is as
> follows:
>
> David R. Amos
> 153 Alvin Ave,
> Milton, MA. 02186
> Phone 617 240-6698
>
> Now just exactly who are you Mr. Correspondence Deputy Prime Minister
> and are you a lawyer?
>
>
>  Jan 3rd, 2004
>
>
>
> Mr. David R. Amos
>
>
>
>         153 Alvin Avenue
>
>
>
>              Milton, MA 02186
>
>
>
>                   U.S.A.
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Amos
>
>
>
> Thank you for your letter of November 19th, 2003, addressed to my
> predecessor,
>
> the Honourble Wayne Easter, regarding your safety.
>
>
>
> I apologize for the delay in responding.
>
>
>
> If you have any concerns about your personal safety, I can only
> suggest that you
>
> contact the police of local jurisdiction. In addition, any evidence of
> criminal
>
> activity should be brought to their attention since the police are in the
> best
>
> position to evaluate the information and take action as deemed appropriate.
>
>
>
> I trust that this information is satisfactory.
>
>
>
> Yours sincerely
>
> A. Anne McLellan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: alltrue@roadrunner.nf.net
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:03 PM
> Subject: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: tedcardwell@mail.gov.nf.ca
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:05 PM
> Subject: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos mailto:davidamos@comcast.net
> Sent: March 16, 2004 2:07 PM
> To: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> Subject: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> To: David Amos
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:15 PM
> Subject: RE: Regarding your e-mail
>
> Thank you for the notice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos mailto:davidamos@comcast.net
> Sent: March 22, 2004 3:28 PM
> To: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> Subject: Re: Regarding your e-mail
>
> No problem, Elsie. By the way my mom is a fan of yours. She told me
> you were quitting. Too bad if it is true.
>
> You are the first politician to respond to me. That fact alone wins my
> respect. Ask around Saint John about me
> in certain circles I am fairly well known. You may even know my
> sister, Nancy and her husband, Reid Chedore.
> Perhaps you crossed paths with my dad C. Max Amos he was a tax
> Supervisor for the Province years ago. And
> maybe even my mom's second husband, Lloyd Nickerson, from Fredericton.
> He was somewhat of a political person
> whereas my dad was not. (Lloyd was chief electoral officer for about
> twelve years and did run as a Conservative)
>
> If you wish to warm my mom's heart please give her a call and simply
> say that you appreciate her good words about
> you to her wild child Dalevid. She will get the joke. She is always
> confusing me with another brother. Her name is
> Anna and her number is 506 000 0000. Do with it what you will. Trust
> me I would love to see another out spoken
> Maritimer step up to the plate and speak of rights and wrongs. The
> sooner that I can go back to being just Papa the
> happier my little Clan will be. I would truly appreciate if someone
> would let my mom know that they are at least aware
> of my concerns whether they agree with me or not.
>
>                                                 Best Regards
>                                                                 Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> To: David Amos
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:42 PM
> Subject: RE: Regarding your e-mail
>
> Dear Dave,
>
> I try to respond to as many people as I can. We do get a lot of email
> around here....
>
> I decided to retire because I truly miss my family. It's hard being on
> the road back and forth by yourself.
>
> It gets very lonely.
>
>              God Bless,
>                               Elsie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Regarding your e-mail
>
>
>        Elsie, I like you more and more. If anyone understands about
> being forced to be away from his family its me.
> Give my mom a call. Her laugh alone will make your day. To hell with
> the smiling bastards in Ottawa their grins
> ain't genuine. Maritimers can still find some fun in a long hard day
> :) Come to think of it, maybe thats why the
> Upper Canadians think we are crazy.
>
>         By the way I have managed to get a rather famous lawyer to
> speak on my wife's behalf down here while I run
> for Parliament uphome. But before I go I have been invited to go
> fishing with Martha Stewart's brother Frank in the
> Gulf of Mexico. My matters are about to bust wide open down here. That
> is why I have chosen this time to make
> an appearance uphome. Once I make the news down here I will step on
> the stump uphome.
>
>                                                            Best Regards
>
>       Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: robmoore@atrueconservative.ca
> To: davidamos@comcast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
>
>
> David,
>
> Thanks for the e-mails.  I will read them all and hear what you have to
> say.
>
> All the best.
>
> Rob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: davidorchard@sasktel.net
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:15 PM
> Subject: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home
>
>
> Just so ya know David I am forwarding these emails to other
> politicians as well.  But I didn't bother to call them because they
> are lawyers as well. Therefore I see no need to explain my actions to
> them. Plus the smart one's have a bad habit of trying to ignore me
> anyway. I t appears that standard operating procedure for them is to
> ignore. delay, deny and then try to settle. They are confused by
> someone that wants to argue law rather than go away with the gold.
> What should be interesting to both of us is whether or not they have a
> sudden fit of ethical behavior after they discover that an honest
> western farmer and wild but ethical maritime biker have been talking
> about them. Please notice that I am more than willing to help such a
> man as Byron Prior anyway I can. I just wish there were more men like
> him on this planet. Trust me the US Attorney backtracking in the
> Martha Stewart matter and prosecuting a Secret Service Agent is too
> funny to relate in this email.
>                             Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: rosent@math.toronto.edu
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:30 PM
> Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: jim.prentice@shaw.ca
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 3:41 PM
> Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: leblad@parl.gc.ca
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:03 PM
> Subject: You, the Harvard Crowd and I
>
>
> We are going to have lots to argue about very soon. But like any true
> Maritimer we should first discuss why the Fishing ain't worth a good
> God damn.
>
>
>
> March 18, 2004
> Ottawa, Ontario
> Prime Minister Paul Martin announced today the renewed mandate of the
> Task Force on Seasonal Work. The Task Force will evaluate the
> challenges born by seasonal industries while looking into the needs of
> workers and communities that depend on them and provide advice on
> areas for possible action in the future.
>
> “This government places great importance on hearing from those lives
> that are directly impacted by our policies, including our seasonal
> workers. Our Caucus has been extremely active in making the sector’s
> opinions known, and will continue to play an important role in further
> examining those views,” said Prime Minister Paul Martin.
>
> “We are facing particularly challenging times in one of our economy’s
> strongest sectors and I look forward to working in collaboration with
> Parliamentarians and all Canadians to find solutions.”
>
> The Task Force will examine;
>
> the specific needs of seasonal industries and workers in the area of
> skills development, life-long learning, and literacy;
>
>
> ways to promote greater economic diversity and stronger local
> economies, particularly in rural and remote communities across Canada;
>
>
> the support required to help seasonal work dependent communities to
> adapt to seize opportunities provided by the new knowledge-based
> global economy;
>
>
> ways of lowering barriers to regional and interprovincial labour mobility;
>
>
> how to align income support programs such as Employment Insurance and
> Provincial Social Assistance Programs to improve income support, while
> also promoting full, year-round participation in the labour force;
>
> ways of addressing the challenges and opportunities offered by
> temporary foreign workers;
>
> the potential role for government in encouraging new approaches to
> community development, i.e. the `social economy` ;
>
> an assessment of the opportunities and challenges specific to seasonal
> economies in promoting the safeguard of our natural environment;
>
> The Task Force will deliver its report to the Prime Minister by November
> 2004.
>
> Members of the Prime Minister`s Task Force on Seasonal Work include;
>
> Chair: Brent St. Denis, MP (Algoma-Manitoulin)
> Vice-Chair: The Honourable Pierrette Ringuette, Senator (New Brunswick)
> Members: The Honourable Libby Hubley, Senator (Prince Edward Island)
> The Honourable Lorna Milne, Senator (Ontario)
> Dominic Leblanc, MP (Beauséjour-Petitcodiac)
> Jeannot Castonguay, MP (Madawaska-Restigouche)
> Rick Laliberte, MP (Churchill River)
> Georges Farrah, MP (Bonaventure-Gaspé-Îles-de-la-
Madeleine-Pabok)
> Nancy Karetak-Lindell, MP (Nunavut)
>
>       Dominic LeBlanc was elected to the House of Commons in November
> 2000. Since then he has served on the Special Committee on Non-Medical
> Use of Drugs, and the Standing Committees on Fisheries and Oceans,
> Transport and Government Operations, National Defence and Veterans
> Affairs, and Public Accounts. He has also served as Parliamentary
> Secretary to the Minister of National Defence and was Chair of the
> Atlantic Caucus
>
> .
>
>       Mr. LeBlanc received a B.A. in political science from the
> University of Toronto (Trinity College), his Bachelor of Laws from the
> University of New Brunswick, and then attended Harvard Law School,
> where he obtained his Masters of Law. Academic successes include the
> Dean's List at the University of New Brunswick's Faculty of Law, a
> scholarship from the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian Bar
> Association, and the Graduating Average Prize from Trinity College at
> the University of Toronto.
>
> Prior to his election to the House of Commons, Mr. LeBlanc was a
> barrister and solicitor with Clark Drummie in Shediac and Moncton.
> From 1993-1996, Mr. LeBlanc was a Special Advisor to the Prime
> Minister of Canada.
>
>
>
>      Mr. LeBlanc is married to Jolène Richard, a Moncton lawyer. They
> have one son, Selby.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: scotta@parl.gc.ca
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:55 PM
>
>
> Hey,
>    Methinks you and I should have a long talk very soon about
> Maritimers and Solicitor Generals. Call Anne McLellan or Wayne Easter
> and mention my name if you haven't heard of it by now. Trust that no
> lawyer uphome will welcome my letters. They hate it when they are
> compelled to uphold the law and the Public Trust particularly at
> election time.
>            David R. Amos
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> Charles LeBlanc
> 114 Brunswick Street
> Fredericton
> New Brunswick
>
>
> Charles LeBlanc
> 114 Brunswick Street
> Fredericton
> New Brunswick
>
> I have too many people on my list so I added
> another account! Some of you will received my updates
> from oldmaison1@yahoo.ca and others will be
> oldmaison@yahoo.com...It just takes me too long to
> send my update with only one account!
>
> Ok..yesterday, I phoned the editor of the Local
> paper and asked him where do I send the bill for my
> stomach Transplant? The Irvings?????
> This is what got me very upset-
>
> Daily Gleaner | Brent Taylor
> As published on page A8 on January 11, 2005
>
> Robichaud made an impact
> Brent Taylor
> REALITY CHECK
>
> This morning in Moncton Louis Robichaud was given his
> final farewell.
>
> He had not been well in recent weeks, but maybe not
> everybody knew that. Journalists knew, and had been
> preparing for some time. So, when the sad news finally
> came last Thursday, New Brunswick's media was ready to
> retell the story of the "father of modern New
> Brunswick."
>
> All of the papers had extensive coverage, as did the
> electronic media.
>
> In helping to prepare a little of that preliminary
> work myself, I spent quite a bit of time researching
> the career of Louis Robichaud. The more I found, the
> more fascinated I became. Being a resident of Quebec
> for the entire 10-year reign of Robichaud, I never saw
> in person the changes he brought to the province. AND
> IT GOES ON BLAH BLAH BLAH….
>
> For you people who’s not familiar with Brent
> Taylor?
>
> He’s a former MLA from the C.O.R. Party! I used
> to debate Acadian issues with these bigots for years
> in the letters to the editor!
>
> The C.O.R. Party was to the Acadian population
> like the KKK is to the Blacks! Brent Taylor ran for
> the Leadership of the C.O.R. Party in the early 90s
> while in Campbellton he made a very very very
> Anti-French speech!
>
> We all know that a leopard never changes it spots
> and it makes me sick to my stomach seeing this
> headline in the Daily Gleaner and of course I never
> read this BS anyway but there’s something that I
> found very interesting yesterday.
>
> Someone told me that Brent Taylor will run under
> the P.C. Banner during the next Provincial Election!
> Well? I’ll tell you one thing right now!!! If Bernard Lord
> allows that Bigot to run??? Well? I’m going to be front
> and center with this issue!
>
> The P.C Party shouldn’t associate themselves with
> a man like Brent Taylor. Mind you, I met and have some
> good friends from the C.O.R. Party!
>
> As a matter of fact, I had a good chat with Max
> White during the P.C. Annual meeting in Fredericton a
> few months ago!
>
> But I’ll never forget Brent Taylor speech and I’m
> very surprised that he has his own column in the
> Irving Papers???  Why is that now???
>
> The Telegraph Journal stop printing my letters
> but they allowed a bigot to spread his views? Why is
> that now? Who knows?
>
> I crashed their first annual convention in 1991
> when Danny Cameron held a news conference telling the
> Government of the day < Frank McKenna > to removed the
> Acadian flag from on top of the Legislature.
>
> My actions went across Canada. There were 1,000
> members at that convention and I am not afraid to
> speak out against hatred!!!
>
> I was very surprised to see J.K. Irving at Louis
> Robichaud Funeral yesterday!
>
> Of course, I always like J.K. anyway but it’s his
> son J.D that I don’t care for!
>
> Hey? Any Billionaire who supports Racism? There’s
> definitely something wrong with this Picture.
>
> I told J.D. himself that he had a very racist
> Supervisor working at Gulf Operators
>
>
> The Rise and Fall of the New Brunswick CoR Party, 1988-1995
> Geoffrey Martin
>
>
> At the time this article was written Geoffrey Martin was teaching at
> Mount Allison University in Sackville, New Brunswick
>
> This article traces the rise and fall of one of Canada's
> recently-formed populist, "New right" parties, the Confederation of
> Regions Party of New Brunswick. It shows how and why the party was
> formed and why it collapsed in the last provincial election. COR-NB
> was a programmatic party based on political protest, which advocated a
> libertarian ideology. The article argues that partisan realignment is
> possible in "traditional" areas like New Brunswick, but that the anger
> that led to the formation of the party eventually turned inward and
> destroyed the party's coherence.
>
> On September 11, 1995, the saga of the Confederation of Regions Party
> of New Brunswick (COR-NB) ended, when the party received 7% of the
> votes and no seats in the provincial election. This represented a
> major collapse of a party, which in the 1991 provincial election
> polled 87,256 votes (21% of the total), took 8 seats, and the position
> of Official Opposition in the Legislative Assembly. As it turned out,
> COR-NB's success in 1991 took place in a "populist moment" in New
> Brunswick politics, in which a number of factors came together to
> enable a new party, which rejected "Official Bilingualism" and many of
> the basic principles of the political system, to achieve significant
> success in a province with almost no tradition of third-party
> activity. COR's collapse in the recent election shows that this
> populist moment has passed, along with the other factors that made for
> COR-NB's success. For the forseeable future New Brunswick politics has
> returned to its historic pattern of two-party competition among
> small-c conservative elites.
>
> The COR Party of New Brunswick
>
> COR-NB was formed in 1989, less than two years after the "McKenna
> sweep" of 1987, in which the Liberal Party under Frank McKenna won
> every single seat in the legislature. In the 1991 election, COR-NB won
> its seats in the South and Central parts of the province, and its
> support was also disproportionately in rural, sparsely populated
> areas. COR took advantage of the voters' underlying concern about
> bilingualism. It did this chiefly in the former heartland of the
> Progressive Conservative (PC) Party.
>
> There are five central points that describe the party's platform and
> principles.
>
> The party was, first of all, a programmatic party, not a brokerage
> party. It had a fixed programme which its activists were unwilling to
> compromise.
>
> Second, it was a protest party with roots in a single issue, that of
> "Official Bilingualism." The party was essentially an "ethnic party"
> representing a segment of English New Brunswick which was extremely
> dissatisfied, to the point of anger, over the direction of public
> policy in the province and the country.1
>
> Third, like Social Credit in Alberta, COR-NB was a populist party and
> it placed high priority on changing the system in addition to changing
> specific public policies. This populism was represented most
> significantly in the inversion of the political hierarcy: For COR
> activists, elected members were responsible to the Electorate first,
> then the Party, and only finally the Leader.
>
> Fourth, ideologically the party is "classical liberal" in the
> nineteenth century sense, which today is best referred to as
> libertarian.
>
> Fifth and finally, like Social Credit in the past, in class terms the
> COR Party is petty bourgeois and lower-middle class in its
> orientation.
>
> This final point is important and too often neglected, and is also
> relevant to other Canadian political experiments, especially the
> Reform Party of Canada. In its heyday the COR Party was dominated by
> middle-income and small-business people, professionals, and the
> self-employed. The middle class is the backbone of advanced industrial
> societies and pays more than its share of taxes and is most likely to
> feel put upon and unable to "get ahead." The party went beyond
> appealing only to "middle-income groups." It was also a reflection of
> those individuals who have an intermediate amount of control over
> their work, including professionals, small business people, and
> independent commodity producers, like farmers, woodlot owners, fishers
> and the self-employed in general. These characteristics are important
> because this class sometimes allies with the working class, sometimes
> with the middle class, and sometimes is alienated from both.
>
> Political parties based purely on the middle class and petty
> bourgeoisie are notoriously hard to hold together. As C. B. MacPherson
> notes, "the petite-bourgeoisie cannot be cohesive" in politics because
> the individualism of members of this class divides it and splinters it
> apart.2
>
> In electoral terms the COR Party was not a party of big business or
> the affluent, even if its programme, especially the provisions that
> weaken government, would seem to provide disproportionate benefits to
> large corporate interests. Yet high income groups and wealth holders
> appear to have stuck with the Liberals and PCs. This is symbolized by
> the close association of the powerful McCain family with the Liberal
> Party, and the fact that one of the McCain spouses, Margaret Norrie
> McCain, was appointed to a five-year term as the province's
> Lieutenant-Governor in 1994. The Irving interests, both individual and
> corporate, are harder to identify with certainty. The descendants of
> the founder of the Irving empire take little public role in partisan
> politics, seeming to prefer to influence the provincial government of
> the day regardless of its political stripe. Judging from the 1993
> federal election and the 1995 provincial election, the Irving
> preference runs towards the "old line" parties and not populist
> alternatives further to the right or the left. In the 1993 federal
> campaign, the Irving interests made financial contributions to both
> the PC and Liberal campaign funds, and not to Reform, the National
> Party or the NDP.3
>
> The Formation of the COR Party
>
> The McKenna Liberals completely dominated New Brunswick politics from
> 1987 to 1989, and New Brunswick was effectively a one-party province
> during that time. Yet the COR Party rose much faster, less than two
> years after the 1987 election, than is usually the case with third
> parties. First of all, this rapid rise is explained by the seriousness
> and longevity of New Brunswick's high unemployment and economic
> hardship over the last 25 years. The Progressive Conservative Party
> was wiped out in 1987 as a repudiation of Richard Hatfield, whose
> longevity in power and personal legal troubles turned the electorate
> against him. Further, the Progressive Conservative Party was slow to
> rebuild, and the leader it finally elected, Barbara Baird Filliter,
> was generally regarded as ineffective. The rapidity of the rise of
> COR-NB was also a response to the McKenna government's desire to
> increase bilingualism in the civil service, an effort which the
> government has since admitted it has not succeeded in achieving.
> Finally, for many activists and voters, federal and provincial
> politics are not separate, and one reason for the rise of the COR-NB
> was the activists' distaste for the Mulroney government, another
> handicap for the provincial PC Party.
>
> A neglected aspect of the rise of COR-NB was its genesis as a social
> movement called the New Brunswick Association of English-Speaking
> Canadians, usually shortened to the English Speaking Association
> (ESA). The ESA was formed in the early 1980s to oppose the extension
> of bilingualism in the provincial government, something that it was
> effective in preventing. The ESA was like a party-in-waiting with a
> membership and an agenda, so that activists were easy to mobilize once
> the decision to form a new party was taken in the late 1980s. By that
> time individuals involved in the organization began to question their
> effectiveness as a lobby group. "We brought our concerns to government
> but it just became frustrating because month after month we were
> bringing the same concerns, getting the same answers, and really not
> getting anywhere," said Arch Pafford, COR-NB's first president, first
> leader, and an ESA activist.4
>
> The ESA was a single-issue social movement and the COR Party inherited
> ESA activists and this issue. Perhaps because of its ties to the
> (now-defunct) federal COR Party, COR-NB quickly developed similar New
> Right policies, including opposition to the Meech Lake Accord and
> support for parliamentary reform, tax reform, privatization, and
> deregulation. While party activists claim the COR Party is not a
> one-issue party, the party, like the ESA before it, would never had
> been formed without Anglophone discontent over the perceived lack of
> jobs for Anglophones, and Official Bilingualism, two phenomena that
> COR-NB activists always linked together. As Sue Calhoun has written,
> "If someone is pushed about why they joined COR, the answer is,
> inevitably, because of language."5 Just as the ESA was a protest
> vehicle, the COR Party was a protest party because of its desire to
> overturn the status quo and because of its dependence on a single
> issue, that of language policy.
>
> The COR Party in Decline
>
> By the fall of 1993, two years after the party's breakthrough in the
> 1991 election, the COR Party was clearly in decline, manifested in the
> party's slide in public opinion polls as well as internal bickering.
> By 1994 the party consistently polled between 3-7% of decided voters
> in various polls (down from 21% in the 1991 election) and its
> membership had plunged from around 20,000 in 1991 to approximately
> 2500 by the end of 1994. To some extent the conditions for the decline
> of the party mirror the conditions under which it arose.
>
> In this section some of the reasons for the party's decline will be
> outlined, but we will concentrate on one of the root reasons for the
> party's problems, that of the incompatibility between the party's: a)
> populism; b) free market ideology, and; c) its role as a political
> party and Official Opposition in the existing system. In contrast to
> many members of the party, the argument presented here is that COR's
> problem was not just a matter of finding a new or better leader.
>
> The party ultimately collapsed because of the membership's approach to
> politics and because a section of the party was unwilling to conform
> to the existing party system.
>
> There are straight-forward reasons for the party's decline that should
> be delineated briefly. First, the departure of Brian Mulroney from
> national politics, and the collapse of the federal PCs in the 1993
> federal election, made it possible for small-c conservatives to return
> to the provincial PC Party. Second, the COR Party suffered a double
> blow from the Charlottetown Constitutional Accord referendum in 1992.
> Since the accord was defeated nationally, constitutional and language
> issues disappeared for a time from the political agenda, which hurt
> the COR Party's ability to grab public attention. Even the province's
> constitutionalization of Bill 88, which declared the equality of the
> Francophone and Anglophone communities in the province, and the 1994
> Québec election, did not excite widespread public attention. The
> second blow was that COR-NB led the anti-accord side in New Brunswick
> in 1992 and yet the pro-accord side won convincingly in the province,
> all of which undermined COR-NB's claim that it represented some kind
> of "silent majority."
>
> Third, the provincial PC Party gained new credibility in the last two
> years because of the effectiveness of its leader, Dennis Cochrane, who
> was elected to that position and to the Legislative Assembly in 1991.
> Even the sudden resignation of Mr. Cochrane in the spring of 1995, and
> his replacement by former Mulroney cabinet minister Bernard Valcourt,
> did not revive COR's fortune's. Fourth, Frank McKenna's Liberal
> government was rightward leaning during its second mandate (1991-95),
> given its attitudes toward individual and provincial self-reliance,
> cuts to social and health services, and its emphasis on job creation
> in the private sector. This also hurt the COR Party because like a
> competent brokerage politician, McKenna's rightward move undercut
> COR-NB support, and this left most opponents of the government in the
> centre (supporting the PCs) or to the left (supporting the NDP, led by
> Elizabeth Weir).
>
> All of these are important reasons for the decline of the party, but
> we should concentrate on another reason, the incompatibility of the
> party's self-identity and its role in the system. The party tried to
> combine populism and free market economics, two ideologies that are
> often in conflict because the interest of the "common man" is often in
> conflict with the interests of even small business, let alone the
> larger firms that dominate the New Brunswick political economy. Like
> the supporters of the United Farmers and Social Credit in Alberta,
> COR-NB members believed in the value of the individual and of free
> enterprise, even though the concentration of capital and high levels
> of unemployment are the result of the particular form of
> resource-based capitalism that exists in New Brunswick. The COR Party
> started as a "revolt against the system," though by 1993 the party
> increasingly internalized the system and so the revolt turned inward,
> with all of the venom once reserved only for the New Brunswick Society
> of Acadians and the established parties.
>
> As the economy and job situation in New Brunswick improved somewhat
> after the recession of the early 1990s, COR-NB lost momentum. (Instead
> of scapegoating Acadians as they did in the late 1980s, in 1995 New
> Brunswick Anglophones were more likely to feel aggrieved at the
> Liberal federal government for tightening the Unemployment Insurance
> rules in the 1994 budget, or for its gun control initiative of 1995.)
>
> There is a serious structural problem underlying these internal
> conflicts, in the form of an ideological conflict between Board
> control and caucus control of the party. As has been stated above, the
> party policy is that an elected member is responsible to the
> electorate first, the party second, and the leader last. Yet under its
> constitution the COR Party—and not the elected caucus—selected the
> leader and the Board of Directors could call a leadership convention,
> which inevitably gave the party control over the elected members.
>
> Greg Hargrove (MLA-York North) said in 1993 that the Board overstepped
> its authority in trying to dump then-leader Danny Cameron because the
> Board is answerable to the membership while the caucus is responsible
> to the electorate. By this line of reasoning, the membership can elect
> a leader but cannot remove a leader, which ultimately sounds like the
> "old-line parties" that the COR Party criticized. This suggests an
> inherent contradiction in the party's inversion of the
> "Leader-Party-Electorate" hierarchy, because elected members cannot be
> responsible to the electorate first given the party's power to remove
> the party leader by calling a leadership convention.
>
> Conclusion
>
> COR-NB was a right-of-centre protest party that picked up on the
> tendency of many New Brunswick Anglophones to blame their economic
> woes on Official Bilingualism, big government, and "special interest
> groups." The COR Party went into the vacuum left by the collapse of
> the provincial PCs, aided by the general weakness of political
> opposition in McKenna's first term and the unpopularity of the
> Mulroney government in the Atlantic region. The political culture of
> New Brunswick was, for a brief period, not as traditional as many
> observers claim, because a significant segment of the electorate
> proved that they were willing to try a political alternative to the
> two dominant parties. By making the COR Party the Official Opposition,
> the voters showed that they were prepared to forgo, both as
> individuals and as constituencies, the benefits of having a member on
> the government side of the house.
>
> The COR Party ultimately declined because of the contradiction between
> its anti-party populism and the realities of operating a political
> party in the existing party system. This essay also shows the risks of
> building a new party based on participatory and populist principles
> when it must function in a "democratic" political system that remains
> hierarchical and discourages active, meaningful, mass participation in
> the process of governing between elections. With the election of 1995,
> the voters have again accepted the elitist political system, in which
> a government is judged based on its results—the "bottom line"—and not
> on its style.
>
> The COR Party was formed by a delicate coalition of populists,
> anti-francophone activists, and traditional conservatives. This
> coalition has shattered, and it is unlikely that it will come back
> together in the near future. It may take a generation to rebuild it.
> There is some possibility that populism will make itself felt in the
> coming years, if people increasingly feel alienated from New
> Brunswick's McKenna government and from the Chrétien government in
> Ottawa. The key question is whether any political party can take
> advantage of this populist discontent without itself being consumed by
> its fires.
>
> Notes
>
> 1. More attention is paid to the issue of bilingualism as well as the
> ethnic basis of the party in another article by the same author,
> entitled "The New Brunswick COR Party as an `Ethnic Party'", Canadian
> Review of Studies in Nationalism, forthcoming, 1996, Vol. 23.
>
> 2. See C.B. MacPherson, Democracy in Alberta: Social Credit and the
> Party System, Second Edition, (Toronto: University of Toronto Press,
> 1962), pp. 224-226.
>
> 3. New Brunwick Telegraph Journal, October 4, 1994, p. 1.
>
> 4. Interview with Arch Pafford, Nordin, NB, August 20, 1993.
>
> 5. Sue Calhoun, "Getting to the Core of COR," New Maritimes, 1992,
> vol. 11, No. (2) November/December, p. 15.
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:29:42 +0000
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First Nations chiefs blast Higgs over report he is prepared to frack without their consent

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First Nations chiefs blast Higgs over report he is prepared to frack without their consent

Premier quoted as saying, 'We gotta get on with it'

Mi'kmaw and Wolastoqey communities in New Brunswick are slamming comments reportedly made by Premier Blaine Higgs indicating that he's prepared to go ahead with fracking without their approval.

They say his recent comments "again show his complete disregard" for the rights of First Nations.

Higgs, who's at an international hydrogen summit in the Netherlands, told an online business publication, allNewBrunswick, that the clock is ticking for the province to take advantage of willing partners in Europe for natural gas. 

"We've gotta get on with it," he said. 

A man stands in front of the Canadian and New Brunswick flags. Premier Blaine Higgs spoke to the online business publication allNewBrunswick about the future of fracking in the province. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

"I want First Nations to be part of this, but there comes a time when you've just gotta find a way to move on, if I can't have any meaningful discussion to make it happen," he was quoted as saying.

A joint statement from the chiefs of Mi'gmawe'l Tplu'taqnn Inc., which represents Mi'kmaw communities in New Brunswick, said the comments show the premier's "disinterest to address any concerns that do not fit within his approach."

"His sudden change of position, without any further dialogue with First Nations, also underlines why First Nations lack trust in the Higgs government," the statement said.

There is no shortcut around a legal obligation to Indigenous consent.​​​
- Allan Polchies Jr., chief of Sitansisk First Nation

The Wolastoqey chiefs were also quick to respond, saying the premier has gone back on his word. 

 "The oil man cannot be trusted to keep his word or protect the interests of his own province over his own export ambitions," said Chief Patricia Bernard of Matawaskiye (Madawaska) in northwestern New Brunswick.

"There is no shortcut around a legal obligation to Indigenous consent. Higgs needs to go back to his European vacation," said Chief Allan Polchies Jr. of Sitansisk (St. Mary's) in Fredericton.

Chief Tim Paul of Wotstak (Woodstock) said, "Our message to any country or company placing their energy hopes or plans in Blaine Higgs is simple: keep looking.

"This man has repeatedly gone back on his word and attempted to bend our own words against us. He is not a suitable partner for any sort of business."

A man wearing Indigenous regalia. Chief Allan Polchies Jr. of Sitansisk, along with other First Nations chiefs, said in a statement that fracking won't happen without consent. (Jennifer Sweet/CBC)

In a news release on Thursday, the chiefs of Mi'gmawe'l Tplu'taqnn Inc. said the premier wrote them a letter in January promising that natural gas development can only take place "with the support of First Nations and in the context of a business relationship with and involving First Nations."

Comments 'fly in the face' of commitments: chiefs

The chiefs say the premier's latest comments "fly in the face of his earlier commitments, as well as the recommendations of the Commission on Hydraulic Fracturing."

Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, is the process used to extract shale gas. A  mixture of sand, water and chemicals is fired into a shale bed to free gas embedded in the rock. 

The chiefs said resource development "will not occur within Mi'gmaq territory without Mi'gmaq consent, which requires community support and a robust consultation and impact assessment process."

To date, that has not happened, they said. 

"As a result, there are no active discussions on natural gas development between the Government of New Brunswick and the communities MTI represents."

The statement from the chiefs said the premier's "sudden change of position, without any further dialogue with First Nations, also underlines why First Nations lack trust in the Higgs government."

"This should be a concern for any investor and for all New Brunswickers."

The province was asked to confirm whether there's a plan to pursue a shale gas industry without the consent of First Nations, but a response was not provided by publication time. 

In 2017, when a Texas company began testing the viability of such an industry in eastern New Brunswick, Indigenous people were among those who protested throughout the summer. First Nations said they had not been consulted in a meaningful way,

The company, SWN Resources, had said there was a 10 per cent chance of shale gas becoming feasible for the company and finished its exploration work that year.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-fracking-shale-gas-first-nations-1.6794489

Higgs pitches First Nations on up to $1.6B in revenue with possible shale gas expansion

Pabineau First Nation Chief Terry Richardson says he's opposed to any new fracking

Premier Blaine Higgs is pitching First Nations on hefty revenue potential if they agree to allow new shale gas development in New Brunswick.

But at least one Mi'kmaw chief is already standing in opposition to any new potential fracking because of environmental concerns and worries that it's being used as a political bargaining chip.

Higgs confirmed in an interview that his government sent all chiefs a letter this month outlining how they could potentially see between $800 million and $1.6 billion in revenue — shared among them over 20 years — if a shale gas reserve near Sussex is further developed.

"The potential opportunity for First Nations is an absolute game changer for every First Nations community in this province," Higgs said.

Industrial facilities and equipment can be seen in the background of a farmer's field. Higgs said new shale gas development in an area near Sussex known as the McCully Field could tap into a reserve containing a trillion cubic feet of natural gas. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)

The move by the Higgs government signals the premier's latest efforts to reignite the industry after former premier Brian Gallant imposed a moratorium on fracking in 2014 following violent protests.

The process of fracking involves injecting a mixture of sand, chemicals and usually water into the ground under high pressure to break rock and capture natural gas that couldn't be obtained otherwise.

It has drawn opposition over fears it could endanger the groundwater supply and potentially have other harmful environmental effects.

Tax-sharing agreement held hostage: chief

The province's proposal wasn't well received by Chief Terry Richardson of Pabineau First Nation in northeastern New Brunswick, near Bathurst.

That's because it came as he, and other Mi'kmaw chiefs, are months away from seeing an end to tax-revenue-sharing agreements that brought millions to communities annually.

Higgs announced he was ending those agreements in 2021, sparking backlash from both Wolastoqey and Mi'kmaw leaders.

A middle-aged man wearing an orange baseball hat. Pabineau First Nation Chief Terry Richardson says he's opposed to the idea of resuming hydraulic fracturing in New Brunswick. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Now Richardson said he feels like Higgs is "holding this tax agreement hostage" as a way to get approval for fracking.

"I mean that's what he's basically doing, is saying 'Well, I took your tax agreement away, but here, look at all this money you can make by agreeing to fracking,'" Richardson said.

Richardson said he's mainly concerned about potential environmental impacts from fracking, adding he hasn't seen any new information to allay those concerns.

And even if he was on board with lifting the moratorium, he doesn't think it would go over well with his community members.

"I don't think it's gonna fly," Richardson said.

"We have to revisit this in our communities and see what our community's perspective is, but I'm almost safe in 100 per cent saying that … unless the technology has changed, there would be a lack of of support for this."

Protesters stand near a burned out vehicle lying on a street. Shale gas exploration in eastern New Brunswick prompted protests resulting in RCMP vehicles being burned and dozens of protesters being arrested in Rexton in fall of 2013. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)

Mi'gmawe'l Tplu'taqnn Inc. represents Mi'kmaw communities in New Brunswick. Spokesperson Jennifer Coleman said in an email that staff have submitted a proposal to the province regarding resource revenue sharing.

"Under that proposal, all projects would be subject to a rights impact assessment," Coleman said. "We are still waiting to have a meeting on that proposal."

The Wolastoqey Nation, which represents Wolastoqey communities in the province, declined to comment.

In 2019, Higgs quietly carved out a small exemption to the Liberal moratorium for an area near Sussex where Headwater Exploration, formerly known as Corridor Resources, was already extracting gas.

If the moratorium were to be lifted in order to allow new fracking to take place, certain conditions would have to be met, including setting up a process for the province to meet its duty to consult with First Nations.

Higgs said an area known as McCully Field near Sussex is the only site currently being looked at for expanded shale gas extraction.

With the field containing about a trillion cubic feet of natural gas, he said it could supply domestic markets to off-set the reliance on burning coal for electricity, and it could supply European markets looking to turn away from Russian gas.

'An extraordinary opportunity': energy analyst

The prospect of getting First Nations leaders to agree to expanding shale gas extraction in the McCully Field would be "massive" for New Brunswick, said Todd McDonald, president of Energy Atlantica, an energy consulting and trading firm.

"It's an extraordinary opportunity," McDonald said.

A man wearing a grey blazer standing in front of a white background Energy Atlantica president Todd McDonald says new shale gas developments could satisfy local markets and the leftovers could be exported to other countries. (Energy Atlantica)

He's been in the industry for 20 years and said he's seen the highs and lows of market prices for shale gas.

Still, he said the business case for extracting shale gas in New Brunswick is "viable," considering consumers here are paying four times more than consumers in Alberta, where the gas is imported from.

"The first portion of any new natural gas could go to meet our own needs … then as we produce more gas than what we need we would actually have gas to export."

Limited window to acquire 'social license'

While there might be a business case for shale gas right now, that's not guaranteed to last, said Herb Emery, an economist at the University of New Brunswick.

That's because natural gas — while cleaner than other fossil fuels — is supposed to only be a "transitional" energy source to be phased out as green energy sources take precedent, he said.

A man standing in front of a CBC New Brunswick TV Economist Herb Emery says it's going to take about a decade to develop the resource and get it to market. (CBC)

That means New Brunswick has a limited window to fulfil its duty to consult First Nations, acquire the "social license" to lift the fracking moratorium, and then obtain federal regulatory approvals.

"In order for it to be viable in New Brunswick you'd need to resolve those three things … probably within a time scale of a few years, not a decade, because you're still going to take about a decade to develop the resource and get it to market," he said.

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New Brunswick Power Plant to Be Built at Oil Refinery

LCG, Oct. 24, 2003--A 90-megawatt cogeneration plant has been planned by TransCanada Corp. and Irving Oil Ltd., which owns the Saint John, New Brunswick oil refinery.

The two companies envision a tolling arrangement under which TransCanada will own the Grandview cogeneration plant, while Irving Oil would supply natural gas to fuel the plant and purchase both the electricity and heat it generates. The agreement is scheduled for a 20-year period.

The plan was first announced in July 2002, but this week's announcement indicated that construction should begin next month, with operations planned to start before the end of 2004.

Irving Oil's Saint John refinery is the largest in Canada. The company will obtain natural gas for Grandview from the Sable Offshore Energy Offshore Energy Project, next to Nova Scotia.

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The 50 MVA units were connected via unit transformers to the Irving Oil 138-34.5 kV transformer substation. The plant is capable of islanding with the refinery loads and black start during utility grid failures. The black start units were arranged to synchronize with the NB Power system across a choice of 34.5 or 132 kV breakers.

Initially appointed as owner's engineer for the cogeneration project, CHA provided conceptual design and project definition engineering including project cost estimate. We also completed the design-build contract bid specifications and provided technical coordination. During the project implementation phase, CHA provided detailed design engineering for the engineering, procurement, and construction (EPC) contractor.

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Over her 25-year career in the energy sector, Ms. Wilson has held a variety of roles in operations, engineering, project management and commercial activities. After graduating from the University of New Brunswick, she began her career with NB Power in the generation group and followed in roles with TC Energy in pipeline integrity and power project development, construction, and maintenance. Prior to joining the Board, Ms. Wilson held responsibilities within TC Energy for commercial and business development activities for its Mexico natural gas pipeline systems and most recently in Canada for its Canadian natural gas pipeline systems.
 
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New Brunswick Power Plant to Be Built at Oil Refinery

LCG, Oct. 24, 2003--A 90-megawatt cogeneration plant has been planned by TransCanada Corp. and Irving Oil Ltd., which owns the Saint John, New Brunswick oil refinery.

The two companies envision a tolling arrangement under which TransCanada will own the Grandview cogeneration plant, while Irving Oil would supply natural gas to fuel the plant and purchase both the electricity and heat it generates. The agreement is scheduled for a 20-year period.

The plan was first announced in July 2002, but this week's announcement indicated that construction should begin next month, with operations planned to start before the end of 2004.

Irving Oil's Saint John refinery is the largest in Canada. The company will obtain natural gas for Grandview from the Sable Offshore Energy Offshore Energy Project, next to Nova Scotia.

 

After pledging to stay out of Toronto mayor election, Doug Ford jumps in (again)

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Toronto mayoral candidates kick off campaign at City Hall

Registration to run for mayor began Monday with a long list of high profile candidates showing up at City Hall to officially add their names to the ballot. Mark McAllister reports.
 
 
 
 

After pledging to stay out of Toronto mayor election, Doug Ford jumps in (again)

Premier's comments show Mark Saunders is his preferred candidate, rivals claim

Ford delivered his most pointed endorsement to date for the candidacy of Mark Saunders, the former Toronto police chief and failed 2022 provincial Progressive Conservative candidate.

"We need someone that has experience dealing with crime," Ford said Friday when asked about the city's mayoral byelection during an unrelated news conference in Oshawa.

"I believe we need someone that has actually run an operation with a number of employees," Ford added. 

He went on to make a statement that appeared to target some of Saunders' chief rivals in the race, including former councillors Ana Bailão and Olivia Chow, as well as current councillors Brad Bradford and Josh Matlow. 

"We need someone that knows all of Toronto, not a little ward that they've been representing, but all of Toronto." 

WATCH | Doug Ford says he's 'staying out' of mayoral election, then steps into it:

From 'staying out' to weighing in: What Doug Ford's saying about the Toronto mayoral race

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Ontario's premier, who was formerly a Toronto city councillor, is ramping up his comments about the byelection to replace John Tory as mayor

This is not the first time Ford has spoken out to tell Toronto voters what kind of mayor he wants them to choose, although just a few weeks ago, the premier professed neutrality in the race.

"I'm staying out of that election,"Ford said on March 22, when asked by a reporter about the growing number of candidates in the race. 

"It doesn't matter who gets elected," Ford added. "Good luck to all of them."

Less than a week later, Ford was taking sides.

'Don't vote for them'

On March 28, Ford took aim at candidates who he described as "sitting councillors that voted to defund the police."

Although he didn't name names, Ford appeared to be targeting Matlow, who had moved an unsuccessful motion in 2020 for a 10 per cent funding cut to the Toronto police budget, and Bradford, who voted in favour of it. 

"The people that voted for defunding the police, don't vote for them, simple as that,"Ford said, adding that the next mayor should be someone who understands policing.

"There's only maybe one or two people that I think could actually run the city,"  Ford said. 

Photo of Mark Saunders. Mark Saunders, the former chief of the Toronto Police Service, is running for mayor. (CBC)

In early March, before Saunders declared his candidacy for mayor, Ford said he "did a great job as police chief" and said it would be great if he ran. 

'Lefty mayor ... we're toast'

Ford has also been clear about what he doesn't want the next mayor's political leanings to be     

"If a lefty mayor gets in there, God help the people of Toronto,"Ford said on Feb. 15. "If a left-wing mayor gets in there, we're toast." 

Asked Friday for his reaction to Ford's tacit endorsement, Saunders downplayed the premier's comments. 

"The endorsements I really care about are from the thousands of people who live in parts of the city that the downtown politicians don't like to go to," Saunders said in an email to CBC News.

"When parents go to sleep at night, they're not worried about endorsements of candidates. They're worried about the safety of their kids at school, or family members on the TTC. They're wondering if their car will be stolen. They're worried about the cost of rent and food." 

Photo of Ana Bailão at a podium with the Ontario Legislature in the background. Ana Bailão called a news conference with Queen's Park in the background, to respond to Ford's latest comments on the Toronto mayoral race. (Pelin Sidki/CBC)

In the same email, Saunders criticized two rival candidates by name. 

"I'm surprised that Olivia Chow and Josh Matlow think that Torontonians would be better off in constant conflict with the provincial or federal governments," he said. "It is absolutely essential that Toronto's mayor is able to sit at the table and have productive discussions with all levels of government."

Saunders was chief of police in Toronto Police Service from 2015 to 2020. In 2021, he became Ford's hand-picked adviser on Ontario Place, appointed by cabinet to the $700-a-day job. Last year, he was selected as the Ontario PC Party candidate in Don Valley West, but lost to Liberal Stephanie Bowman.   

Several mayoral candidates slammed Ford on Friday for appearing to endorse Saunders:   

  • Ana Bailão: The former councillor said that Ford "indicated Mark Saunders is his preferred candidate. What that means is that Doug Ford intends to run City Hall." Bailão also took a swipe at Ford for his "little ward" comment. "Someone who only represented a little ward became premier," she said. (Until Ford led the PCs to victory in 2018, his only time in elected office was as a one-term city councillor.) 
  • Mitzie Hunter: "I don't believe that it is appropriate for the premier to be meddling in the city election," Hunter said in an interview. "He said he would not do that."  Hunter rejected Ford's statement that the city needs a mayor who has experience dealing with crime. "I believe that the mayor should be someone with a vision for the city," she said.   
  • Josh Matlow: "Premier Ford falsely said he wouldn't interfere in our city's mayoral election," Matlow said in an email to CBC News. "Since then, he's gone back on his word, supported Mark Saunders and attacked my campaign. Mark Saunders may want to be an agent for Doug Ford. As mayor, I'll be taking a stand for Toronto." 
  • Olivia Chow: "Doug Ford is obviously worried that his preferred candidate is falling behind, but he needs to let the people of Toronto have their say and to stop meddling in our local democracy," said a statement from Chow's campaign. On Twitter, Chow said: "Doug Ford doesn't get to choose your new Mayor, YOU do." 
  • Brad Bradford: Less direct in his criticism of Ford, Bradford referenced an 86 per cent non-confidence vote in 2018 by members of the Toronto Police Association, the union that represents officers, when Saunders led the force. "They voted non-confidence in chief Saunders for his failed track record of as police chief. So I'm surprised the premier doesn't see that," Bradford told reporters outside city hall. 

Asked whether it's appropriate for the premier to take sides in a mayoral election, Ford's spokesperson Caitlin Clark provided a one-line statement: "The premier said he will work with anyone and that's what he intends to do."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Mike Crawley

Senior reporter

Mike Crawley covers provincial affairs in Ontario for CBC News. He began his career as a newspaper reporter in B.C., filed stories from 19 countries in Africa as a freelance journalist, then joined the CBC in 2005. Mike was born and raised in Saint John, N.B.

 
 
 
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Buford Wilson   
Doug is responsible for the well being of Ontario. Including Toronto.

He's right to endorse Mark, the only candidate capable of reducing crime.. 

 

David Amos
Reply to Buford Wilson
Yea Right 


Edward Teach
Reply to Buford Wilson
Boy, he sure reduced crime as police chief.  
 
 
James Rockford 
Reply to Buford Wilson  
If Doug was responsible for Toronto, he would also be responsible to finance it, he doesn't.

Doug is not responsible for Toronto, the new mayor will be. 

 

David Amos

Reply to Edward Teach  
Surely you jest just as your chosen name suggests  
 
 
Edward Teach  
Reply to David Amos
My sarcasm was dead serious. 
 
 
michael hatch 
Reply to Buford Wilson  
Using the word responsible in a sentence that includes Doug Ford is irresponsible.   
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Edward Teach
Methinks you lost your head over 300 years ago Hence your ghost cannot be thinking at all N'esy Pas?  
 
 
Edward Teach  
Reply to David Amos
Actually that is my real name.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Edward Teach
Wow

 
Edward Teach  
Reply to David Amos
My father had a twisted sense of humor. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Edward Teach
I like his style Check my work 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Edward Teach
Federal Court File No T-1557-15 
 
 
Edward Teach  
Reply to David Amos
I don't have time to read that in it's entirety right now, but I've book marked it and promise I will get back to it. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Edward Teach
Check out Statement 83 then Google Barry Winters Edmonton 
 
 
 
 
 
mo bennett  
It’s like an episode of welcome back kotter or maybe fractured fairy tales! 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to mo bennett 
Whereas Mikey was born and raised in Saint John, N.B. he should understand why I find this article interesting to say the least 
 
 
 
 
Gordon Burton  
So your a lefty if you represent people and don't get with the program to use the treasury to generate record profits for the corps.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Gordon Burton  
According to Dougy anyway
 
 
 
 
Paul Hendrick 
this is more like an episode of Bullwinkle's Corner. which rabbit will Doug pull out of his hat?  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Paul Hendrick  
I have a different perspective as to where the rabbits are coming from 
 
 
 
 
Jason Barra 
He just can't help himself, he's Doug Ford. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Jason Barra 
C'est Vrai 
 
 
 
 
 
Edgar von Spelt 
It's a typical conservative troupe "law and order". How about investing in public health? How about paying nurses a comparable salary as a police officer? How about actually helping communities rather then added police presence? In the end these "law and order" campaigns only make things worse for the public, shoulder the cost onto citizens while starving other programs and enrich private jails/security suppliers. All one has to do is look south of the border to see the failures of this approach and the toll it takes on communties. 
 
 
Steve Mercer
Reply to Edgar von Spelt 
Spoken like someone who truly has no idea what you're talking about. 
 
 
Amy Lopez
Reply to Edgar von Spelt 
And to see exactly where we’re headed. 
 
 
Jordan Henderson 
Reply to Edgar von Spelt
It’s not either/or what we need is both. Stop creating unnecessary and unhelpful divisions. We need law and order, extraordinarily tough on crime and especially any kind of violent predatory behaviour and a strong, effective public health approach. 
 

David Amos
Reply to Steve Mercer
Do You? 
 
Steve Mercer
Reply to  David Amos
More than him and you. 



 
Isabelle Bastien 
Good. Now I'll know who not to vote for.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Isabelle Bastien
Bingo
 
 
 
 
Don Pooley  
Now we all know "the Premier said" means nothing, can't trust a word. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Pooley
Oh So True




Elaine Niddery  
Man this guy is truly a disrupter! 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Elaine Niddery
Welcome to the circus
 
 
 
 
 
 
Chris Thomaidis  
Ford's spokesperson Caitlin Clark provided a one-line statement: "The premier said he will work with anyone (who does whatever Ford wants) and that's what he intends to do." 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Chris Thomaidis  
Hmmmm
 
 
 
 
Nick Walker 
Love Doug I will vote for his candidate. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Nick Walker
Surely you jest


 
 

Chris Sky | Assaulted By Toronto Police Officer in a Parking Lot

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Activists want Toronto police board meetings moved to city hall after alleged assault

Ontario's Special Investigations Unit looking into incident that took place before last meeting

Activists are calling on the Toronto police services board to immediately move its meetings from police headquarters to city hall.

D!ONNE Renée, an activist and former mayoral candidate, alleges she was physically and sexually assaulted by an officer moments after entering the building ahead of the board's Sept. 21 meeting.

Ontario's Special Investigations Unit (SIU), which probes allegations of death, serious injury or sexual assault involving police officers, is looking into what happened.

Reporters awaiting the start of the meeting heard Renée's screaming and saw her on the floor of the lobby surrounded by officers moments later. She was not arrested and later made it to the meeting, where she tearfully spoke on several matters.

On Wednesday, Renée and nearly a dozen supporters, including Desmond Cole, spoke to reporters at city hall setting out six demands, including that the police force suspend the officer allegedly involved in the incident, and that the police services board immediately move its meetings.

"Why do police control the building in which meetings about their accountability are being held?" Cole asked.

In recent months, the police board has become a flashpoint for heated arguments centred on race, and at several points demonstrations by groups like Black Lives Matter Toronto have forced the board to put its work on hold.

Mayor John Tory says the board is in "active discussion" about moving the meetings, suggesting they could be held at city hall or other locations.

"We are responsive to the notion that meetings should happen at other places than police headquarters from time to time." he told reporters gathered outside his office.

However, Tory didn't rule out having future meetings at police headquarters, nor commit to a timeline on when the meetings would move to an alternate location — suggesting only it could be possible by the end of this year or early in 2018.

Previously, the police board did meet at city hall, and many other agencies, like the TTC, do the same.

Tory says if the police board does move, additional security — likely in the form of metal detectors and bag searches — would come along with it.

"We are dealing here with the senior command of the police service," he said.

"They have an obligation to keep everybody else safe, and we have an obligation to keep them safe."

Cole wants that stopped, suggesting police unilaterally moved to add the security checkpoints at its doors. He's calling for them to stop "warrantless searches" and "arbitrary detention" at its doors.

CBC Toronto contacted Toronto police on Wednesday to ask about the potential of moving the meetings, but has yet to receive an official statement.

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John started with CBC News in 2008 as a Peter Gzowski intern in Newfoundland, and holds a master of journalism degree from Toronto Metropolitan University. As a reporter, John has covered everything from the Blue Jays to Toronto city hall. He now leads a CBC Toronto digital team that has won multiple Radio Television Digital News Association awards for overall excellence in online reporting. You can reach him at john.rieti@cbc.ca.

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Security screenings at Toronto police headquarters violate rights, says complainant

Police headquarters not suited for public hearings because of 'hostile environment for civilians': complainant

Searching people who enter Toronto police headquarters to participate in disciplinary tribunals violates their constitutional rights, a complainant and his lawyer argue in calling for such hearings to be held elsewhere.

The assertion is in a motion filed this week with the police tribunal adjudicator in which complainant Waseem Khan calls for a change of venue in light of the recently implemented security measures.

"Police headquarters is not the appropriate place to have a public hearing and keep police accountable because of the hostile environment for civilians, particularly public complainants," Khan says in his filings.

Khan, 33, is one of two complainants in a misconduct case against Toronto police Sgt. Eduardo Miranda, who is accused of using excessive force in January by deploying his stun gun six times on a handcuffed man lying on the ground.

Video prompted police service to apologize

Khan was video recording the takedown when officers on scene ordered him to stop, threatened to seize his cellphone, and suggested he could get AIDS from the suspect. Broadcast of the video caused an uproar and prompted the police service to apologize.

Toronto man films police using a stun gun on pinned suspect (Waseem Khan)

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Torontonian Waseem Khan captured this video of a Toronto police officers using a stun gun on a pinned suspect.

Police spokesman Mark Pugash said the motion had just been received and it would be inappropriate to comment.

Disciplinary tribunals for Toronto officers have long been held at police headquarters, which until recently had no special security at the entrance. In June, however, Chief Mark Saunders implemented measures that require visitors to go through metal detectors and have their belongings searched.

The official police view is that the searches are not "involuntary" because the public has a choice about entering the
building.   

At Miranda's first appearance in late September, Khan's lawyer Selwyn Pieters was also searched, a process he said he found uncomfortable and demeaning. In a letter to the prosecutor in the case, Pieters said he had no quarrel with the increased security.

Motion requests hearing be moved to another building

"However, as it relates to an administrative tribunal hearing where my client is a public complainant with standing, he, his
lawyers, the media and any other observer must be able to attend with the minimal intrusiveness of their person and belongings."

In response to the letter, procedures were changed to allow lawyers with valid credentials to bypass the screening but Pieters says that's not enough. No other administrative tribunal in the province subjects participants to such security measures, he said.

The motion, expected to come before Insp. Richard Hegedus, the hearing officer presiding over Miranda's case, formally requests that the hearing be moved to another building — such as a hotel — to get away from the security measures.

"It would not result in unfairness or an undue hardship to the Toronto police service to move the tribunal," Pieters says in the motion.

Court filings unrelated to the current application make the case for the screening measures by including reference to security incidents at Toronto police buildings. In 2015, for example, a man attacked a female officer with a sledgehammer at a detachment, and, more recently, a knife-wielding man threatened to kill officers at headquarters.

Insp. Stephen Irwin, who is responsible for national security investigations in the Toronto area, calls the current screening protocol reasonable.   

"Firearms, metal knives, explosive devices and other obvious weapons are less likely to make it into the interior of the
building, thus enhancing the safety of those legitimately working and visiting the premise," Irwin says in a court filing.

 
 
 
 

Court decision leaves searches to enter police HQ in doubt

Judge says says warrantless searches at door limit expression at police board meetings

Toronto police are reviewing a decision by an Ontario Superior Court judge that says searching members of the public in order for them to attend police board meetings violates their Charter right to freedom of expression.

Ontario Superior Court Justice Jill Copeland issued her decision Monday.

Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders implemented a policy last June that requires everyone who enters police headquarters, at 40 College Street, to submit to a search. That search involves a sweep by a metal detecting wand and a manual search of any bags, and anyone who refuses to be searched is not permitted to enter the building.

Kristian Langenfeld, who regularly attends Toronto Police Services Board (TPSB) meetings, argued the policy — when it serves as a condition to attend TPSB meetings, which are held at headquarters — violates the right to freedom of expression under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

The effect of the searches is to limit expression by making public access to TPSB meetings contingent on submitting to a warrantless search.
- Justice Jill Copeland, Ontario Superior Court 

In her decision, Copeland notes Saunders argued the searches don't infringe on Charter rights because the act of attending a meeting "does not have expressive content."

Saunders also noted that individuals can watch TPSB meetings via video and make submissions remotely, Copeland wrote. According to the chief, "if the applicant's freedom of expression was infringed, the infringement did not result from government action, but from the applicant's choice not to submit to a search," Copeland wrote.

"I reject each of these arguments," Copeland continues.

"I find that the searches as a condition precedent to attending a public TPSB meeting infringe the applicant's freedom of expression."

The right to attend such meetings and be informed about the activities of a government agency via a public meeting "has expressive content," whether or not the attendee plans to speak, and is protected by the Charter, Copeland stated.

Saunders's intention with the search policy was not to limit political expression, Copeland wrote. "However, the effect of the searches is to limit expression by making public access to TPSB meetings contingent on submitting to a warrantless search."

Last October, a number of community activists called for police board meetings to be moved to city hall over similar issues.

TPS 'carefully reviewing' decision

In her decision, Copeland said Saunders also made submissions arguing that the Occupiers' Liability Act (OLA) and the Occupational Health and Safety Act gave him authority to impose searches upon entry to headquarters, including prior to attending a TPSB meeting.

Copeland rejected those arguments, writing that although the OLA may give the Chief the right to impose searches on anyone attending headquarters for business other than a board meeting, the legislation doesn't allow a government occupier of a property the authority to impose warrantless searches, without reasonable and probable grounds or reasonable suspicion, as a condition to attending a public meeting of a government agency.

It was not immediately clear how the decision will affect the search policy. Asked for the Chief's reaction to the decision, a spokesperson for the Toronto Police Service did not answer specific questions about whether searches will continue or cease, or whether provisions will be put in place for those attending TPSB meetings.

"The Service is carefully reviewing the decision and will make any changes that are appropriate," Meaghan Gray told CBC Toronto in an email.

"No final decision has yet been made on an appeal."



 
 

Langenfeld v. TPSB et al


Court of Appeal for Ontario[Fr]
 Chief Saunders' successful Appeal setting aside the decision of Copeland J:
 Court File #: C65691 — LANGENFELD v. TPSB et al
 • Appeal Book and Compendium (SAUNDERS)
• Factum of the Appellant (SAUNDERS)
• Factum of the Respondent (TPSB)
• Factum of the Intervener (Ontario)
• Factum of the Respondent (LANGENFELD)
2019-09-12Decision:LANGENFELD v. TORONTO POLICE SERVICES BOARD, 2019 ONCA 716
• PDF• HTML at CanLII
Order of the Court of Appeal

Supreme Court of Canada[Fr]
 My appeal of the decision of the Court of Appeal for Ontario:
 Court File #: 38909 — Kristian Langenfeld v. Toronto Police Services Board, et al.
 • Application for Leave to Appeal (LANGENFELD)
 
The application to the Supreme Court of Canada, for leave to appeal the Court of Appeal for Ontario's decision, was filed on November 6th.
Responding parties, Chief Saunders and the TPSB, filed their materials on this application for leave in January 2020.
No reply materials were filed and the application was placed before the justices.
 
The Supreme Court of Canada publishes public information of the docket; this is available at:
 https://www.scc-csc.ca/case-dossier/info/dock-regi-eng.aspx?cas=38909
If the court had granted leave, they would have published public materials at that address.
 
A panel of judges of the Supreme Court of Canada considered the application for leave to appeal and only if they had granted leave would the costly process of appealing the decision actually have begun.
Instead, the court refused to grant leave to appeal the decision of the Ontario Court of Appeal; and, as is normal, provided no explanation for their decision.
Judgment of the Supreme Court of Canada


 


 
 

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Q1 Labs, a network security company that grew to be a world leader in just ten years

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Q1 labs The Q1 Labs team in 2003 at UNB's Old Arts building. Front row, from left: Dwight Spencer, Sandy Bird, Brian Flood and Chris Newton in front. Image: courtesy of Dwight Spencer.
 
he following is an excerpt from “Unicorn in the Woods” by journalist and author Gordon Pitts, published by Goose Lane Editions. Gordon is Mark Leger’s guest on this week’s edition of the Huddle “Home Office” podcast. Search for “Huddle Home Office” on your favourite podcast platform or listen here.

When Brian Flood entered Chris Newton’s life, it gave the younger man a bracing whiff of adventure, but also a tremor of trepidation. He was 28, settled in his university job, newly married to his wife, Tracey, thinking about a family, and in the process of buying a house — and now this guy Brian Flood wanted him to give it all up and launch a company. “I was scared as shit,” Newton would say later. “And you’re telling me I am leaving a position where I could work for 30 years to join a startup with no money or sales?”

Newton knew how tenacious Flood would be in his counterargument, that this was a life-changing opportunity. “But I felt I might quit my job and a month later, I might be out of work. Then I’d be losing my house. I thought I’d probably have to say no,” he concluded.

After some months, the moment of decision came: his university boss, Greg Sprague, called to say he should make a choice, leave to join the startup or commit to work full-time at UNB. Newton was torn. Then Sprague offered a suggestion — the university was willing to give him an unpaid leave of absence of two years, allowing him to try the new venture. Newton was enthusiastic — what was there to lose? “I would not be getting paid but I knew if things didn’t work out, I could just come back to my job.”

He now concludes that this was the critical step that got his new venture off the ground. Many people in university or public service come up with great ideas but hesitate to pursue them for fear of failing without any safety net for themselves and their families. This was a way to provide that buffer.

He feels governments in particular should be open to dispensing leaves of absence, more than private-sector companies, which might feel threatened competitively by allowing key personnel to take two years’ leave (though it would probably work well for many private companies too). Looking back on UNB’s offer, “I don’t think I understood at the time how important that would be.” He could go out in the world and know he had options if the thing didn’t work out.

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Newton had to make other decisions. He had poured himself into developing his Symon idea, working on his own, but now it was more than he could handle. Early in the process, he reached out to his friends Sandy Bird and Dwight Spencer; Bird was still working at the university and Dwight at a government technology job. They had been buddies for years and were about to become partners.

It was intense. The old pattern continued: the trio were working at their jobs full-time and heading home at night to work some more. Newton is derisive of entrepreneurs who think they can launch companies working 9-to-5 days. The UNB trio would come home from their jobs around five-thirty, spend time with families and friends, and then get online, working with each other, from eight o’clock or so, till 1:00 a.m. or later.

“We had this chatting system and we could tell when someone fell asleep,” Newton recalls. “You could see their keystrokes go in a line — l-l-l-l-l — and you’d think, ‘Uh-oh, Dwight has fallen asleep on his keyboard.’”

Newton’s message to young entrepreneurs is, ‘If it doesn’t keep you up at night, it is probably not worth doing.’ A great new idea can’t be easy. Anything of value in technology has to be hard, and yet it can’t be so hard that it seems impossible.

Even after the company was founded, Dwight and Sandy were toiling away at their old jobs. It was about a year and a half before they quit to go full-time with the new company. There was no longer talk of graduating; they were too busy. In the future they would cover up their lack of degrees by simply saying, “We attended UNB.”

All these moves laid the foundations for the new company that Newton, Flood and the university were trying to put together. It was a major step for UNB and for David Foord, the technology-transfer officer who was balancing a delicate issue. How do you structure an agreement that protects the university’s interests in intellectual property but also rewards and offers incentives for these young people?

If Newton and his friends had been faculty members, they would have clearly owned the intellectual property. But Symon had been developed while they were employees of UNB, which meant that, strictly speaking, UNB owned the technology. And yet it was developed largely on their own time, while using the university’s networks to test and develop the programs.

Foord pushed toward the model he had seen on the West Coast. Instead of demanding royalties, UNB would assign the intellectual property to a new company as part of a founders’ deal, and then take equity in the company in return for signing rights.

The university’s stake was about 5 percent, according to various sources, and the rest of the ownership was divided up largely among Brian Flood — the major financial investor with the majority stake — Chris Newton, Sandy Bird and Dwight Spencer. The three young developers collectively held about a third of the ownership, with Newton taking the largest cut of the three. Two other smaller shareholders came from Brian Flood’s network: Steve Beatty had been Flood’s accountant in his restaurants, and lawyer Linda Fung had been one of Flood’s guides through Silicon Valley and did a lot of the legal work around the formation of Q1 Labs. Fung ended her active involvement in the early stages, while Beatty would remain chief financial officer for a period.

The new firm, Q1 Labs, could still use the university network for research and product demonstrations, and the university could develop research papers based on the work. In the dry wording of the university website, “In April 2001, [the office of research services] transferred the UNB-owned technology to Q1 Labs for equity in the company and the right to continue to use the technology for research and educational purposes. . . . Q1 Labs established R&D facilities in New Brunswick and formed an alliance with UNB whereby seventeen live networks were available for product testing and research.”

The deal underlined the role of the university in the early life of Q1 Labs. To call it supportive would be to underplay its importance. There was a lot of trial and error — the university and the founders had never done this type of thing before. Brian Flood may have published a book, sold 3M products or run a restaurant, but he had never launched a startup tech company with a groundbreaking product, young co-founders and a university backer. A UNB professor named Ali Ghorbani, emerging as a research leader in cybersecurity, effectively became part of the Q1 team, though he was not officially employed by the company.

The other critical factor was getting the funding to turn this idea into reality. Flood beat the bushes in New Brunswick and far afield to assemble a group of what’s known as angel investors. The term “angels” is not celestial but entirely materialistic — it was originally used to describe the collection of friends, family and theatre groupies who funded the incubation of new Broadway plays. Later it was extended to the people who, from love or loyalty, extend small amounts to get a startup off the ground. “Friends, family and fools,” says one tech veteran.

Brian Flood was milking cash flow from his restaurants to fund the high-tech venture and was maxed out on a slew of credit cards, just staying ahead of the banks. Meanwhile, the UNB kids and their families had nothing to give but time and sweat.

The most fertile field of funding came from the faculty, alumni and supporters of UNB. This was the critical moment when you needed true believers who were also realistic enough to know the whole project could sink like a stone.

Jane Fritz was the very definition of true believer. She was dean of the faculty of computer science that day when Brian Flood burst into her office with the news that he had found his startup baby, right here under her nose with one of her favourite students, Chris Newton. Soon Flood would be coming back and asking for money.

Fritz was an easy touch. She had an affinity for young men and women with bright ideas. “I love my geeks,” she says. “I’ve taught thousands of geeks, and they’re just awesome people. I love what they do.” She is a pioneering academic in computer science who had come to Fredericton in 1970. A UNB masters of science grad who got her PhD in England, she had followed her metallurgist-turned-systems-consultant husband back to New Brunswick, where he was helping install the province’s first medicare system. She stayed to become a pillar of UNB’s outstanding computer science faculty.

She recalls that when she came to Fredericton in 1970, there was one computer in the government and one computer at the university— and NB Power used it as well. “It was the biggest one east of Montreal. And that was it.”

She was a difference maker in the province, planting the seeds of a knowledge industry. Then along came Chris Newton and his friends, who, initially as part of their internships, ended up in the Computing Centre. Her recollection is that she and her husband put $15,000 into Newton’s company, not a lot but enough to make a difference in the early days of Q1 Labs. It took a long time before they saw any return, but Fritz has since then done other deals for other students. They were not as fruitful, but that is what you do when you truly believe in people.

Meanwhile, UNB officials helped Brian Flood comb through lists of alumni who might contribute, reaching into the Bay Street–Toronto crowd to find graduates with a tolerance for risk. In the end, Flood had $770,000 U.S. of seed money to work with, of which he had contributed about $400,000 of his own. He had recruited a dozen angels, seven of whom had contributed $10,000 U.S. or so, but two contributors came in at $100,000 and another two at $50,000. The angel investors took convertible debentures — essentially securities convertible later into common shares. It all helped, Flood said, and it was fortunate that there wasn’t a lot of competition for cash. “We were in a bubble up here, the only game in town.”

This is an excerpt from “Unicorn in the Woods” by Gordon Pitts. Reprinted with permission from Goose Lane Editions.

 
 
 
 
 
 
Brian is a lifelong New Brunswick resident. In 2001, Brian became the business founder and CEO of tech start-up Q1 Labs, a security intelligence so ware fi rm that over a period of ten years, grew to employ hundreds of New Brunswickers. In 2011, Q1 …

Brian is a lifelong New Brunswick resident. In 2001, Brian became the business founder and CEO of tech start-up Q1 Labs, a security intelligence so ware fi rm that over a period of ten years, grew to employ hundreds of New Brunswickers. In 2011, Q1 Labs was bought by IBM in what would become one of the largest acquisitions in New Brunswick’s history.

Brian, qui habite depuis toujours au Nouveau-Brunswick, était président-directeur général de l’entreprise Q1 Labs, fondée par lui-même en 2001. Q1 Labs se spécialisait dans les logiciels de renseignement de sécurité; en dix ans, l’entreprise a employé des centaines de Néo-Brunswickois. IBM a acquis Q1 Labs en 2011, ce qui représente l’une des plus importantes acquisitions jamais réalisées au Nouveau-Brunswick.

 
 
 
 
 

Speaker Series Online with Brian Flood

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Welcome to the International Business and Entrepreneurship Centre’s (IBEC) Speaker Series Online! In this episode Brian Flood (BBA’83) talks about the early days of Q1 Labs and his journey as an entrepreneur. In 2001, Brian founded the tech start-up Q1 Labs, a network security company that grew to be a world leader in just ten years, employing hundreds of New Brunswickers. In 2011, IBM bought Q1 Labs for over $600 million, one of the largest acquisitions in New Brunswick’s history ever. To this day Q1 Labs is considered one of Canada’s most important IT success stories. The Speaker Series Online is coordinated by the International Business and Entrepreneurship Centre, which is housed within the Faculty of Management at the University of New Brunswick. IBEC supports programs in entrepreneurship and international business to help students build their professional networks and develop entrepreneurial skills. Key to its operations is a powerful and ever-growing network of innovators, entrepreneurs, and business/community leaders who work with our faculty and students, share their wisdom and advice, and provide experiential learning opportunities. IBEC is brings students and businesses together through many exciting and innovative programs.
 

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David Amos
Trust that I too read Jonathan Livingston Seagull a long time ago. I wonder if Mr Flood read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
 
 
 

Excerpt from Gordon Pitts’ Unicorn in the Woods

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Publish date: December 16, 2020

When Brian Met Chris 

In this excerpt from Unicorn in the Woodsacclaimed business journalist Gordon Pitts shares the story of how a billion dollars of value (USD) was created after a chance encounter between an entrepreneur and a tech innovator. Pitts’ book shows that economies outside major urban centres can develop and grow in a new economy, without relying exclusively on old-world, and increasingly unsustainable, resource extraction.  

Chris Newton didn’t really expect much from the meeting. He would have been content to spend the day coding software in his tiny office along a dark corridor of the University of New Brunswick’s computer science building in Fredericton. But officials of the university—who, after all, were his employers—had insisted he go along to a gathering of alumni and potential investors in the hope of turning his little software idea into something commercial, something that might actually be sold. 

He didn’t think he had a “product,” just a way of dealing with the denial-of-service attacks from mischief-makers that were wreaking havoc on the university’s ill-prepared computer networks in these early days of the internet and the wired university. Massive quantities of data would slam into the UNB network and shut it down, inciting a chorus of complaints. It created urgent calls for a cybersecurity tool that could give a real-time snapshot of the health and frailties of the system. 

And that was what Newton was working on—this program he called Symon (short for System Monitor)—mostly at home at night as he wrote computer code well into the wee small hours. 

But on that warm fall day in 2000, wearing shorts, sandals and a T-shirt, the 28-year-old part-time student and full-time UNB employee lugged his laptop up the hillside from his tiny office, through the cluster of UNB’s signature red brick buildings, toward the modernist Wu Conference Centre at the top of the hill. Below him lay the sleepy provincial capital with its 19th-century legislature, its sprawling frame mansions and the broad Saint John River as it curled downriver from its source in northern Maine. 

A crowd of interested types—some local, some from as far away as Halifax—had gathered in a meeting room, creating the impression of a pilot for the future hit TV show Dragons’ Den. At his appointed time Newton flipped open his laptop screen and a chart appeared—a colour guide to the maze of computer networks that coursed through the university, where the emails went, where the downloads landed, where the trouble points were flaring up. There was a silence, and then a large dark-haired man moved closer to the front and fixed his attention on the screen, then started peppering Newton with a torrent of questions. What was this? Could it be sold? Who owned it? Can we talk? 

Chris Newton was polite—he was the compactly built, baby-faced son of a police chief in the Miramichi, the rugged northeast New Brunswick region of salmon, forests and old mill sites. The only presenter under the age of 40, and the only non-academic, he projected boyish innocence and showed proper respect to people. He found the whole thing both unsettling and intriguing. 

Newton finally managed to tear himself away and scrambled back down the hill to his office in the comfortable corridors of the UNB Computing Centre. But the big intensely energetic man would show up later, talking on about forming a company, creating a product and becoming an entrepreneur. Chris Newton didn’t know what an entrepreneur was—or a start-up or a business model or venture capital (VC). He just liked fixing stuff, figuring things out, solving problems for the people who employed him. 

But his relentless pursuer was obsessed with all those entrepreneurial things. With the rangy build of an athlete, Brian Flood towered over Chris Newton. He was more than a decade older and 100 times more experienced in the ways of the world. Flood was like a man possessed, having spent the past four years preparing for this moment, when he could seize the chance for funding a technology breakthrough in his beleaguered home province. 

He didn’t seem like a natural tech founder. He had been running a sports bar/restaurant down the road in Moncton, and later added another one in his hometown of Saint John—both cities about an hour or two’s drive from Fredericton. Then he got hooked on reading about this hot new thing called the internet. He embarked on a personal crash course to learn about this new pot of technology gold that had entranced everyone from tech titans Bill Gates and Steve Jobs to callow kids such as Mark Zuckerberg, still a student at a New England private school but about to burst on the world as a social-networking Harvard undergrad. 

Flood was just back from one of his fact-finding expeditions to California’s Silicon Valley when he was invited to this showcase event by the sponsors at UNB. He had first met Newton in the “rubber room,” a session where the presenters were prepped for the show. Chris Newton seemed like the answer to his dreams—a whiff of game-changing innovation in the middle of his home province. As he chased Newton around the hillside university, he acted like a suddenly smitten suitor pursuing the reluctant target of his affections. He was not going to let this slip away. In the words of one friend, Brian Flood is the “weirdest, wackiest, hardest working, most tenacious son of a bitch.” 

At one point in the courtship, Flood asked, almost as a throwaway line, what would IBM pay for this? Chris Newton pondered the thought: maybe the computer behemoth might cough up $25 a month for using the software or even as much as $500. Neither of them imagined that, a decade later, IBM would pay $600 million US for Chris’s little product and the company that grew out of it. And that by that time, Newton would have already gone on to cofound another company that he and his colleagues would have sold for about $330 million US. The bashful kid from the Miramichi would be New Brunswick’s billion-dollar man in value creation, putting him in the same rarified air as the Irvings, McCains, Olands, Sobeys and the other established business families whose names were synonymous with wealth, power and achievement on Canada’s East Coast. 

–Excerpted from Unicorn in the Woods: How East Coast Geeks and Dreamers Are Changing the Game copyright ©2020 by Gordon Pitts. Reprinted by permission of Goose Lane Editions.  

Gordon Pitts is a former senior writer for the Globe and Mail’s Report on Business. He is the author of several books, including The Codfothers: Lessons from the Atlantic Business Elite and Stampede: The Rise of the West and Canada’s New Power Elite, winner of a National Business Book Award.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

From fracking to blueberries, Higgs government has a week of mixed messages

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From fracking to blueberries, Higgs government has a week of mixed messages

Ministers forced to explain, clarify and backtrack on a range of difficult issues

Especially when their normally ubiquitous leader and chief spokesperson, Premier Blaine Higgs, was away in Europe, hustling for hydrogen. 

Back at the legislature, ministers found themselves explaining, clarifying and backtracking on issues ranging from shale gas to education to blueberries.

"Maybe sometimes people say things because they're in the heat of the moment or they see this opportunity and it really excites them," Aboriginal Affairs Minister Arlene Dunn said of comments Higgs made about shale gas.

A woman with short light hair speaks into a microphone. Agriculture, Aquaculture, and Fisheries Minister Margaret Johnson denied she was clashing with a cabinet colleague over blueberries. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Agriculture, Aquaculture, and Fisheries Minister Margaret Johnson — in her first legislature scrum with reporters after more than two years in the job — had to explain that she was not clashing with a cabinet colleague, Natural Resources Minister Mike Holland, over blueberries.

"The media and people are really keen to make it look like Minister Holland and I are at odds with each other," she said. "In fact quite the opposite is true."

Dunn was responding to anger from First Nations chiefs after Higgs suggested he might go ahead with natural gas development without their consent.

"I want First Nations to be part of this, but there comes a time when you've just gotta find a way to move on, if I can't have any meaningful discussions to make it happen," he told the business news website allNewBrunswick.

Higgs sees a provincial gas industry as something that could open up export markets in Europe and has pitched chiefs on a partnership that could be worth $1.6 billion.

The chiefs have spurned the idea, leading Higgs to declare "we've gotta get on with it."

A woman with blond hair speaks into a microphone in a group of reporters. Aboriginal Affairs Minister Arlene Dunn said the premier shares her understanding of the duty to consult First Nations over any natural gas developments. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

In question period and with journalists, Dunn promised several times that there will be "meaningful discussion" with First Nations and acknowledged it would be "very difficult" for a gas industry to develop without Indigenous consent.

For one thing, private-sector gas companies are reluctant to invest in a jurisdiction with "any sort of turmoil" that might impede development, she said.

"I would not say that we would proceed if they didn't agree. … That could certainly be a potential for sure, but let's hope that that doesn't happen." 

Dunn had to square that reality with Higgs's comments about moving ahead.

"I'm not going to stand here and defend anything the premier has said without me being present to hear what's actually been talked about," she said. "There's a consultation process in place. … We will be adhering to the law and our constitutional obligations." 

Dunn said Higgs "absolutely" shares her understanding of the duty to consult, a requirement set out repeatedly by the Supreme Court of Canada.

Opposition parties were not convinced.

"It certainly seems from the premier's comments and from minister Dunn's comments that they are in two different places," said Opposition Liberal Leader Susan Holt.

A man in a grey suit wearing glasses stands in front of the Canadian flag. Green Party MLA Kevin Arseneau said he believes the premier and the aboriginal affairs minister hold different points of view on fracking and the duty to consult. (Radio-Canada)

Green MLA Kevin Arseneau said "there's a friction, a different point of view, absolutely," between the premier and his minister.

Dunn made a point of telling the legislature that "I am the minister responsible for the file," but said she was looking forward to Higgs elaborating on his comments.

"We're going to have to leave that to the premier when he gets back, to have an explanation in terms of the context of his meeting and what was occurring over there."

Higgs himself issued a statement from overseas Friday afternoon, saying he didn't mean to suggest his government "would operate outside the duty to consult obligation. … We understand the importance of that process and it will be followed."

Dunn wasn't alone having to clarify and contextualize as the legislative week wound down.

A man wearing a suit speaks to people holding up microphones to his face. Education Minister Bill Hogan explained an offhand comment he made on sexual orientation and gender identity that provoked criticism on social media. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Education and Early Childhood Minister Bill Hogan told reporters that his department would "fix" legislation that he had introduced just three days before.

The 111-page bill was promoted as an overhaul of the district education council governance structure.

But supporters of the province's inclusion policy, which says all students have the right to be in regular classrooms regardless of their developmental challenges, found language in the bill that appeared to weaken those guarantees.

Hogan agreed that the sections "may have an adverse effect on inclusion, and we're going to fix that."

"I can't explain how the mistakes happened. I'm currently looking into that. I'm not very happy about it."

Hogan also explained an offhand comment he made on sexual orientation and gender identity that provoked criticism on social media.

Defending a review of the gender identity policy for schools in Thursday's question period, the minister said "when I look around here, I am not seeing a whole lot of people who look like me, so we are going to respect diversity in our schools and in our society."

He said Friday that what he meant was that people should not assume based on someone's appearance what someone's sexual orientation or gender identification is. 

"It wasn't a joke" Hogan said. "In retrospect it was a poorly worded comment on my part."

A man wearing a suit standing in front of a brown building Natural Resources and Energy Development Minister Mike Holland said he had identified some land that might provide a solution to an angry dispute near Tracadie over blueberries, but hadn't heard back from his colleague, the agriculture minister. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

The blueberry issue had the makings of a spat between ministers, though Johnson explained — at length — that it was Mother Nature who was offside.

Holland told Radio-Canada earlier in the week that he had identified some land that might provide a solution to an angry dispute near Tracadie.

Some local residents have resisted the province's push to develop the blueberry sector on an 18,000-hectare parcel of land that used to be a federal military firing range.

Holland said he'd forwarded the information on alternate sites to Johnson's department weeks before, but had not had any response.

"Speak to Minister Johnson," Holland said. "Am I expected to walk over into that department and make sure they do something with it? I don't think so." 

Johnson said there was no disagreement between the two ministers, just a delay in assessing whether the soil was suitable for blueberries due to the weather.

"Here's the fact of the matter: it's spring and there's still snow in the woods," she said. "That's what we've been waiting on." 

If the Tories suffered through a week of bumpy messaging and less-than-clear policy initiatives, they may have found at least one way to turn the tables on the Liberals.

On Friday, Holland introduced a motion in the legislature to have the chamber endorse the continued development of — and government support for — small modular nuclear reactors. 

Such motions are non-binding and symbolic and are usually introduced by opposition parties, not governments.

A woman wearing a red suit jacket speaks to people holding microphones in the rotunda of the legislature. Liberal Leader Susan Holt said her party has not yet decided if small modular nuclear reactors are the answer to the province's energy needs. (Aidan Cox/CBC)

The Liberals supported SMRs when they were last in government, handing $10 million to two companies working on reactor designs. 

Holt herself worked for that government. 

But when she became leader last August, she said she was "not sure it's the solution for electricity generation for our province. … I think it's not clear yet if it will really give us energy in a way that's responsible and efficient with our investments."

When Holland's motion comes up for debate, it will force her and her party to take a clear position. 

On Friday she said she didn't know yet what that will be.

"I'll have to read it and talk to the party about it," she said.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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Don Corey  
Always "entertaining" to read about all the nice things that JP (political stripes obvious as usual) has to say about the NB Conservatives.

He seems to have neglected to mention that Premier Higgs is in Europe doing what most (other than one) Canadian PM's would/should be doing; specifically, to promote and explore possible export opportunities for our natural resources.

 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Don Corey
Higgs is having a European holiday on the taxpayer's dime. Small time player in a big boys game.
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to Michael Cain  
"Small time player in a big boys game"......that would rule out Trudeau immediately, even if he wanted to do his job (first priority of a PM is to put the country ahead of personal agendas).  
 
 
Mathieu Laperriere
Reply to Michael Cain  
May is the best time to visit Europe.  
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Don Corey 
Learn to keep on topic, and please get informed. Deflection just shows ignorance of the subject matter. 
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to Don Corey 
By not going on foolish junkets promoting snake oil PM is doing his job just fine  
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to Al Clark
False
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Mathieu Laperriere
True
 
 
Al Clark
Reply to Don Corey
Yes, the existence of anything higgy is promoting is false. You're absolutely correct.  
 
 
David Amos 

Reply to Al Clark 
Say Hey to Holt's Chief of Staff for me will ya?  
 
 
Rosco holt 
Reply to Don Corey
For whose benefit is Higgs promoting our natural resources?

Our royalties are a joke and it gets worst when you add subsidizes.

 
 
 
 
William Peters  
The minister, whoever that might be at any given time, is the fall guy who is administering the will of one man, and that one man is administering to the tune of damaging capitalist ideologies. That person will soon be reshuffled elsewhere in the tradition of musical chairs we play with those who are tasked with providing answers. It is rather worrisome that NB would even think it ought to get into a partnership with the US in natural gas exports to serve the fresh markets that its military has opened up for itself, aka the markets that used to be served heavily by Russian gas. North American gas is not competitive unless the markets are manipulated/protected by political gerrymandering, and Europe will not pay the premiums that the rosy forecasts we are given allege. If they do it is the European people who will have been swindled, imo, and we will be partners in that. Another point I would make here is that the minister seems to think the people of NB are at odds with the native population on the fracking issue. They aren't, and no one has asked us because the constitution doesn't require it. Someone is trying to scapegoat these people. At what point does the media perhaps wake up to this sort of manipulation of perceptions?
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to William Peters 
Not quite true; consultations have to be considered with all affected people. Problem is with an autocrat who believes he has the right to do what he wants. There is pending legislation which will essentially undermine due process whether the rubes like it or not. He is counting on the apathy of voters. 
 
 
Michael Cain 

Shawn Tabor 
Reply to Michael Cain  
Keep up the good work Sir. I am happy that this is all coming out now. This has been a long time coming. Its about time that folks start paying attention of whats truly going on. Time will tell.  
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to Shawn Tabor  
Maybe you need to become aware of the attempts by the previous government at pilfering taxpayer dollars to fulfil the will of the minority that enables them to do so with NO DISCLOSURE to the majority ! 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Shawn Tabor 
Dream on
 
 
Rosco holt  
Reply to Lou Bell 
Isn't that what Higgs is doing?

Giving million $ gifts to the Empire at the taxpayers/ rate payers expense>




A controversial P.E.I. development includes a stony seawall. Critics say it threatens the shoreline

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A controversial P.E.I. development includes a stony seawall. Critics say it threatens the shoreline

Owners of property at Point Deroche argue their new seawall mitigates erosion

A controversial construction project on the coast of Prince Edward Island has been the subject of residents' ire for months, thanks to a large stone seawall that critics say severely restricts access to the public beach.

"People who used to walk that beach, well, they can't walk it.... You'd have to crawl up over armour stone to be able to walk that stretch of beach," resident Joan Diamond told CBC's Janna Graham.

Diamond drew up a petition, signed by more than 2,000 Islanders, that calls on the provincial government to halt construction of the seawall and have it removed completely. It surrounds a new vacation home on the Island's north shore at Point Deroche.

The property's owners, Toronto couple Jesse and Julie Rasch, have a website of their own, where they have spoken out on what is described as misinformation about the project, arguing it's "vastly safer to walk around than the old seawall."

There's more at stake beyond the beach's walkability: P.E.I. is slowly eroding, caused in part by high winds and rising sea levels spurred on by climate change — and most recently a battering by post-tropical storm Fiona.

Bryson Guptill, a hiking enthusiast and founder of the Island Walk hiking trail, said that over the last 20 or more years — long before the current barrier's construction — you could actually measure the shrinking of the sandy beaches next to the property due to erosion.

"Because of all the erosion, it had actually become much closer to the ocean than it used to be," he said.

A building with a prominent wall under construction by a shoreline. Residents say the new stone seawall surrounding a summer home property at Point Deroche prevents access to the beach and may cause long-term erosion to the waterfront. The provincial government says the wall occupies the same footprint as the location's former seawall. (Shane Hennessey/CBC)

"The Island is more vulnerable than any other province. Its shoreline is more vulnerable. And we expect the governments, whoever they are, to respect public trust," said Guptill, who is also a former senior policy adviser for the federal and P.E.I. governments. "The public trust has been broken here."

Point Deroche was once the site of a farmhouse and several other buildings. They have since been demolished to make way for a "seasonal residential cottage" comprising four structures totalling 6,740 square feet, as well as a separate 883-square-foot bunkie further away from the coast.

The old house had a seawall, too. But critics say the new one makes it more difficult for residents to traverse the public portions of the beach.

In a statement, the P.E.I. government told CBC News that the new seawall is on the same footprint as the old farmhouse's seawall.

Property owners dispute critics' arguments

"It is regrettable to see the politicization of our cottage development," the Rasch family told CBC News in an emailed statement.

"Our work has been lawfully approved, and it will be respectfully seen through to completion. We love P.E.I., and would be pleased if the discussions spurred by our cottage lead to changes that Islanders feel best serve all the stakeholders involved in permitting shorefront property development."

"There are still people who believe the beach has been blocked by our work; this lie was repeated often in recent weeks, and we don't expect everyone to embrace the truth," Jesse Rasch said in a separate email.

"The new shoreline system modestly improves beach access, and significantly improves safety and sight lines, for the infrequent public visitors to this remote area," the Rasches said.

On their website, they argue that their seawall "likely ... mitigated damage" to the coast by Fiona last September. But government officials, including P.E.I. Environment Minister Steven Myers, have suggested the opposite.

"There's nothing that would protect the adjacent shoreline. I think it's part of the crux of the Point Deroche argument, is if you look at the pictures post-Fiona, it's really accelerated the erosion next to it," Myers said in the provincial legislature last November.

Stop work order issued, then rescinded

The province issued a stop work order on the development in September 2022, according to a Freedom of Information request submitted by Guptill. It cited "significant encroachment on an environmental buffer zone," which is protected by P.E.I.'s Planning Act.

But that order was later rescinded after provincial staff met the developer on-site and concluded that the plans complied with regulations.

In a statement to CBC News, the province said the development was permitted in a "working policy" agreed on by the Department of Environment, and the Department of Agriculture and Land.

A house on a rocky hill by the beach with harsh waters in front of a grey, cloudy sky.     A photo taken February 2021 shows the original farmhouse property and seawall at Point Deroche, as seen on the Rasch family's website. The family says the photo shows how difficult it would be to walk along the beach at high tide with 'choppy waters.' (pointderoche.com)

The policy states that existing structures on the property are allowed to stay as is, but new modifications or additions to the property cannot extend closer to the coast, beyond a prescribed boundary. CBC News has asked to see this policy multiple times, with no response.

But critics, including Myers, Guptill and the Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society, point out that the beach in front of and next to the wall has eroded over the past few decades.

As a result, the water is now closer to the wall, even if the property itself hasn't gotten bigger — a dilemma the working policy doesn't directly address.

"I don't blame the land developer, the company that did this. I mean, they're trying to make a buck," Guptill said. "I blame the government."

Seawall erosion

Seawalls are coastal defence systems, made of hard materials like concrete, boulders and steel. They were once a common method of protecting a home, but these days, scientists generally agree that they're actually destructive.

A recent report by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change found that even though seawalls might reduce impacts to people and buildings in the short term, they can cause long-term exposure to climate risks.

That's because they can block the natural movement of waves that would otherwise replenish beaches, causing damage to wildlife habitats and trouble for people living nearby.

Top among the concerns is beach loss — both in front of a seawall and beside it — in a phenomenon called flanking erosion.

A large crowd is seen seated while a keynote speaker talks in front of a podium in a community centre room. Members of grassroots organization Coalition for the Protection of P.E.I. Lands are shown at a meeting on Jan. 28 in Charlottetown, where they discussed their concerns about the waterfront property under construction at Port Deroche. (Janna Graham/CBC)

"The dynamic of the waves shoots to the edges. And on both sides of the development, there's an extraordinary amount of erosion," Guptill said.

Coastal erosion is already a major concern on P.E.I. Drone footage gathered by CBC News last year showed "unprecedented" and "heart-wrenching" erosion along the coastline after Hurricane Fiona.

The Rasches' site mentions a plan for "naturalizing" the seawall by using native soils, growing indigenous plants and "strategic" placement of boulders and logs to help stabilize the surrounding area, "reducing erosion."

But it's unclear how long that will take, or how effective any of this will be — especially in the event of another storm like Fiona.

Krummholz and 'living shorelines'

The Point Deroche controversy has put broader concerns about just how vulnerable P.E.I. is to climate change under a microscope. What's more, the Island's very foundation is built upon sandstone, which is prone to erosion or even crumbling.

Daniel McRae, a researcher with the Macphail Woods Ecological Forestry Project, said one possible solution already exists on the Island: "living shorelines" made of plants known as krummholz.

"It's a German word in origin, and it stands for 'bent wood,'" he explained.

WATCH | 'Living shorelines' might provide buffer to limit climate damage: 

‘Living shorelines’ may help mitigate future climate damage

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P.E.I. is rebuilding its shorelines after Hurricane Fiona by replanting a living shoreline, which absorbs the force of waves and may be part of the solution in future-proofing against climate disasters.

Krummholz aren't a specific species of plant; they're more like a selection of trees and shrubs that grow on coastal, windswept areas like much of P.E.I.

Instead of deflecting erosion like a more traditional seawall would do, a natural, living shoreline made of krummholz can diffuse the wind, McRae said.

"They end up protecting both the shoreline erosion as well as the inland forest behind them," he said.

A man with an orange vest and dark blue shirt points at alpine vegetation near a beach on a sunny day. Daniel McRae with the Macphail Woods Ecological Forestry Project points to hardy plants known as krummholz. Instead of deflecting erosion, a natural, 'living shoreline' made of krummholz can diffuse the wind, he says. (Shane Hennessey/CBC )

Living shorelines happen naturally, but they can also be encouraged or helped along by humans. McRae said he thinks reforesting the shoreline near or around Point Deroche can help mitigate the erosion that's already occurred.

But he cautions that its effects will likely be seen and felt on a more long-term time frame and aren't an immediate solution to the current seawall controversy.

So far there is no mass scale effort to plant or enhance krummholz. However, P.E.I.'s Building Resilience: Climate Adaptation Plan, released in October 2022, includes a call to "develop a program to support nature-based solutions to erosion and flooding for lower-income individuals."

View of a beach. Some P.E.I. residents worry that the large rock seawall, shown in the distance, may contribute to further erosion of the nearby beach and north shore of the Island. (Janna Graham/CBC)

In the meantime, advocates like Bryson Guptill and Joan Diamond are resolved to continue petitioning the government to take action in the interest of their homes.

"We live on an island. It's basically a little sandbar in the middle of the ocean, right? We know that those ... stone walls erode everything around it," Diamond said.

"Point Deroche will eventually be sitting out in the middle of the ocean."

Radio documentary produced by Janna Graham. With files from CBC P.E.I.

 
 
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David Amos
This is just another Tempest in a Teapot
 
 
 
 
 
 

Our family has spent the last dozen years summering in PEI. We plan to spend much of our time in PEI in the future.

In 2017 we began looking to find a place to build a home on the north shore. In 2019 we made an offer on this property in the Point Deroche area, which we ultimately closed in 2020. We purchased a site that was already developed, with a very old house perched at the shoreline. The vendor of the property was aware we intended to build a new house on the site. The vendor asked for, and we granted, permission for her to remove the old structure. Ultimately, she never did so, and we proceeded to demolish the structure as it was not salvageable.

The property and house were protected by an old seawall from the 1990s which required investigations. The old seawall was faced with timber treated with toxic creosote retaining a variety of concrete blocks that had been getting dislodged over time. It was an eyesore to beach visitors, dangerous to walk around depending on the tide, and unpleasant to sit by due to the carcinogenic off-gassing of the creosote fumes.

The research into this seawall - and how to replace it when it was concluded it was potentially unsafe - has involved extensive conversations with both provincial and federal government agencies, as well as coastal engineers, scientists knowledgeable in climate change, and other consultants. Our objective was to ensure that our efforts would best protect the shoreline long term, and also improve the safety profile of the shoreline.

I will summarize by saying it was a much bigger undertaking than we ever imagined it would be.  A book could likely be written on this project, but the bottom line is the new rock-slope shore protection was approved after significant review by the relevant government authorities, and is already a much safer seawall to walk by then what existed before. It was designed by professional coastal engineers. Importantly, the toestone is set several feet landward of the original structure, so beach walkers actually have more space to walk by then they did for the past ~30 years when the prior seawall loomed ominously over passersby. As part of our development plans, landscaping works will top-dress the upper half of the rockery with sand which will then be planted with native coastal plants, naturalizing the rockery as much as possible.

With respect to the house we are building, it is a seasonal dwelling for our large family and guests. In time it will become a full time residence. Our architect is from Nova Scotia and has done numerous sensitive projects in PEI and other maritime environments. The home will be a modern interpretation of the traditional saltbox architectural genre. We expect it to be a dignified addition to the coastline, respectful of island history. We have great respect for architecture and its impact on the community. In terms of the positioning of the house, it is in fact more than 30' setback from the location of the house that existed before, therefore not as close as the prior structure was to the beach.

In summary, the new rock slope shore protection is safer andeasier to walk around then the old seawall, and the new home is set back further from the Gulf than what existed prior.

We care very much for PEI, and as property stewards for this beautiful site, we wanted to take the time to provide the community with accurate information about its history and our plans. It is possible some folks may not know what existed before our activity, and we understand the concerns and questions they rightly have.

We chose PEI over other locations because of the natural beauty of the island and the respectful nature of its people. Hopefully this website will demonstrate our commitment to being respectful neighbours and addressing some of the concerns and misinformation circulating within the community.

Information About The New Private Home At Point Deroche

This site was created to inform the public about the private family home being built at Point Deroche. There is a large amount of misinformation being circulated about the project. The objective of this site is to provide factual information to those interested about the project. You can read more about us and learn about the history of the site and the current project below.

Improved Accessibility for Beach Walkers

The primary criticism circulating in the media is the notion that the new rock-slope shore protection, which replaced the vertical seawall that stood for over 30 years, is encroaching on the beach and impeding public access more than the previous seawall.

This claim is incorrect.

The edge of the new shoreline protection is a minimum of 3 feet and as much as 10 feet inland of the old seawall, resulting in improved accessibility compared to what existed in the past.

Impact of Erosion on the neighbouring Shoreline

Historical wind and wave processes have eroded the shoreline on either side of the old seawall. This took place long before the new owners purchased the property.

It is important to understand this has been an ongoing issue over the several decades since the original owners built their seawall.

If one does not take this into consideration, they may incorrectly conclude the shoreline protection newly obstructs the beach.

Old Seawall was Toxic & at risk of Falling into the Sea

The old seawall was in poor condition. It was filled with salvaged concrete, some of which became dislodged from the seawall over time and littered the nearby beaches at both east and west ends.

The timber in the seawall was treated with creosote, a chemical banned from use in marine applications. It is a known human carcinogen and environmental contaminant.

Professionals involved in this work believe the old vertical seawall would been destroyed by Hurricane Fiona.

The Old Seawall

Some people are unaware that this site was developed in the 1980s. The old seawall stood for decades until it was replaced in 2022. The erosion of the beach on either side over 30 years has long made this location difficult to safely walk around at high tide.

New Shoreline Protection & Planned Site Restoration

The new bio-engineered shoreline restoration will ensure the shoreline can withstand the harsh climate and restore native plants and biodiversity. Removal of the environmentally toxic creosote timber and future naturalization of the shoreline will be a vast improvement over the old seawall.

Image showing excavation of old seawall and old timber retaining wall.

New Shoreline Protection Progress Photos

The recent impact of Hurricane Fiona has accelerated neighbouring shoreline erosion, although it is likely the new rock-slope shore protection mitigated damage to the neighbouring properties. The new shoreline is vastly safer to walk around than the old seawall.

Discussion & Frequently Asked Questions

There is widespread misinformation concerning the Point Deroche House and the new shoreline protection.

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Point Deroche - Discussion & Frequently Asked Questions

“When my information changes, I alter my conclusions. What do you do, sir?”

  • John Maynard Keynes

Many honest and hard working people are associated with the project at Point Deroche. They are often confronted with misinformed criticism about the project. The majority of the criticism is based on false information about the new rock-slope shore protection and house construction project. The aim of this website is to provide factual information to the public.

The view, held among a vocal minority, that public access has been obstructed, is a serious charge. The new owners of the property agree that the public has a right to be outraged at the blockage of a public beach, even if not many people routinely venture to the area in question (the house at Point Deroche is remote, requiring a round trip walk of 7km from Blooming Point).

We do not like to see people misled. We believe that if the public has an opportunity to review the facts, they will be empowered to make their own independent judgement on the principle accusation: have the new owners at Point Deroche blocked the beach?

We Admire the Spirit of the Grassroots Campaign

While we disagree with many of the incorrect claims, we do admire the well co-ordinated publicity campaign. The campaign shows great civic pride and commitment to environmental ideals, many of which should be widely held views by all those who love Prince Edward Island. It is regrettable that much of the focus of this grassroots movement is expended on the false notion that beach access has been newly blocked. Nevertheless, concerned citizens have proven that a small but committed group can exercise a form of “minority rule” by having their opinions dominate the mainstream view, and thusly, influence public policy.

We do not believe that protecting one’s property and protecting the environment are incompatible. We love the shorelines of PEI just as you do, and we want to protect our property, just as most people would if they owned an oceanfront property threatened by erosion. In our case, we did not have to make the difficult initial decision to build shoreline protection as there was already a seawall in this location for decades - we have replaced the old seawall built by the original property owner with better engineered, natural rock-slope shore protection. Had the neighbouring land owners also chosen to protect their shoreline at the same time in the 1990s, the shoreline would be more uniform in appearance in this area. Cooperation among neighbouring property owners installing shoreline protection may be an important factor to optimally manage erosion in oceanfront communities going forwards.

We do not know if the current regulations on shorefront development and protection are sufficient to strike the correct balance between environmental concerns and the rights of property owners. But if this campaign can help facilitate a conversation among all stakeholders on the best path forward for PEI, that would be a positive outcome. If it is the will of the islanders, I expect they will see some of the principle ideas of this movement reflected in future legislation.

What Troubles us about the Grassroots Campaign

Respectful discourse is a hallmark of functioning society. We have received numerous letters and emails of complaint. All of these communications centre around the accusation that we have blocked the beach. We greatly respect the majority of citizens who, while we believe incorrect in their view that we have blocked the beach, shared their objections in a civilized manner.

Unfortunately, we have also received threats against our property and suggestions of worse. While these threatening communications are in the minority, they are concerning. As a result, security systems have been installed.

There has been numerous cases of trespass on the private laneway to the site. We kindly ask that our privacy be respected.

Thank You

We would like to acknowledge the individuals who recognize the seaward footprint of the new rock-slope shore protection is no larger than the old, and have quietly expressed their indignation at the spread of misinformation to the contrary. We would rather be considered a friend to the community than an enemy, and we look forward to spending quality time in PEI.

Parting Thoughts

Social media can play a dangerous role amplifying false information. We know it is hard for people to accept new information that contradicts strongly held prior opinions, even when the new information is credible and may invalidate previously held assumptions.

The original Islander-resident owner built a large seawall to protect this property around 30 years ago. The seawall protected the property from the erosion that has gradually taken a toll on the shoreline of the neighbouring properties. As a result of erosion on the adjacent properties, beach access has been increasingly compromised in this location for decades. There was no apparent outrage in years past.

We leave it to the reader to decide if the new property owners have “blocked the beach” or, rather, have made passage safer, and more accessible, relative to the old seawall that existed before for decades.

FAQ

“There should be no seawall, it blocks the beach”

Many people apparently do not know there was a seawall in this location for approximately 30 years. It's not a new addition - it's been there for decades. The old seawall seems to have escaped scrutiny and outrage, unlike the new rock-slope shore protection with its slightly smaller seaward footprint. The new shore protection provides better access compared to the old seawall, by as much as 10 feet in locations where the old salvaged concrete, often with rebar, was piled against the old seawall. The new shoreline protection is setback from the old seawall.

“The new house will fall into the ocean”

We appreciate your concern about the new house. The new shore protection is designed to withstand strong hurricanes like Fiona, which hit the north shore of Prince Edward Island and caused as much as 30 feet of shoreline to disappear on the nearby beach. The new shoreline protection held up perfectly during the hurricane.

“The old seawall was just fine”

While the old seawall did a good job in the past, it was at the end of its life. It was also made with creosote, which is a dangerous chemical that can cause cancer and pollute the environment. Experts think the old seawall would not have survived a hurricane like Fiona and the old house would probably be in the ocean now. The new property owners relied on the expertise of local and national consultants to design the new shoreline protection. The team includes the same experts who oversaw the design and construction of the shoreline protection at nearby Crowbush Cove.

“There should be a stop work order on the house, they are not allowed to build there”

The property is privately owned and all activity is lawfully permitted. The lot was already developed and there has been a house there for almost 40 years. The new house is 30 feet back from the old one.

“The prior owner was shocked to see the demolition of the heritage house and old seawall”

We don't know if the old house was officially designated as a heritage site. The sale of the property was conditional on getting permits for the demolition of the old house and seawall. There was no clause in the contract for a home inspection. The previous owner had the option to remove the old house at their own expense, but they didn't do it.

“Money must have changed hands get this approved - politicians are in their pocket”

The property owners paid the normal fees required for the building and development. The permit process was very thorough and lasted many months. The property owners do not know the names of any politicians in PEI or which party is in control of the government.

“Money Talks”

We are not sure what is meant by this. But we would note that the economic contribution of this project to PEI is significant. The general economy will benefit, which is especially important in this challenging economic environment, as nearly the entirety of the construction budget will flow to local businesses, who will create jobs to service the project. These individuals will then go on to spend their money in support of the local economy, donate to their local charities, and pay taxes to local governments. All of this helps support the virtuous cycle of economic activity that underpins our society.

“It is owned by a Corporation”

The new property owners are a family from rural Ontario. The property was purchased personally through an entity known as a Bare Trustee - it is not an active business nor does it confer any tax benefits whatsoever. It simply provides a measure of privacy on title.

“They have destroyed dunes, its an ecological disaster. The granite boulders look awful.”

No dunes were on the previously developed site; no habitat has been destroyed. The old house footprint, septic, and decking were built on an area of infill at the edge of the shoreline that spanned the full frontage of the shoreline, directly abutting the old seawall. The property owners wanted to use sandstone, but the engineers said local red sandstone wouldn't be strong enough for the wave action in this area. They're looking into ways to make the rockery look more natural.

“The construction site is a mess.”

The commentary associated with photos of the site in the media describe a construction zone as though it represents a permanent aberration on the landscape. Most people understand that construction sites are very raw spaces during the building phase. Best efforts will be made to naturalize the site once construction is complete. Much of the top section of the rock-slope shore protection will be densely planted to establish habitat and minimize the visible rockery.

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment.”

Albert Einstein
 
 

N.B. has second-highest rate of food insecurity of 10 provinces

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N.B. has second-highest rate of food insecurity of 10 provinces

Fredericton food bank consistently setting new all-time records for demand

Only Prince Edward Island exceeded New Brunswick when it came to overall food insecurity, according to the 2022 report by Proof, a research team that investigates and publishes annual reports on food insecurity.

The team uses three definitions to describe food insecurity:

  • Moderate: "Compromise in quality and/or quantity of food due to a lack of money for food."
  • Marginal: "Worry about running out of food and/or limited food selection due to a lack of money for food."
  • Severe: "Miss meals, reduce food intake, and at the most extreme go day(s) without food."

Alex Boyd, CEO of Greener Village, a food bank in Fredericton, said the numbers reflect what they're seeing on the ground. 

"The last full-month stat that we have was significantly higher than any month we've ever seen in history," said Boyd. "So it's not surprising to me that those numbers are coming out in the report."

A bearded man with glasses holds a large cardboard box in a storage room. Behind him are shelves stocked with food products. Alex Boyd with some of the food donated to Greener Village in Fredericton. He said food banks are continuing to see a rise in demand. (Submitted by Alex Boyd)

That full-month statistic was 40 per cent higher than the same month last year, so Boyd predicts next year's report on food security will be "probably more grim."

"The situation that we're seeing on the ground is significantly worse than 2022, and 2022 was significantly worse than 2021. So we're basically just seeing continual increases to the demand that food banks are facing."

Boyd said the depth of the deprivation is critical.

"We're not talking about some people who are skipping the odd meal. We have a potential starvation dilemma in Canada," he said. 

A bar graph showing three different measures of food security for each province. New Brunswick had the highest percentage of people living in 'moderate' food insecurity of any Canadian province. (Proof report)

Based on statistics collected by Greener Village, Boyd said one in five clients has "a net negative income before they make any consideration for food whatsoever."

Atlantic provinces have highest rate of insecurity

According to the report, the Atlantic provinces had the highest rate of individuals living in food-insecure households in 2022 — 23.6 per cent in P.E.I., 22.7 per cent in New Brunswick, 22.5 per cent in Newfoundland and Labrador, and 22 per cent in Nova Scotia. 

"During the time of measurement, these provinces were experiencing especially high rates of inflation and unemployment," states the report. 

"Previous research has found that higher unemployment rates are associated with higher provincial food insecurity. The relationship between rising food insecurity and the high rates of inflation and unemployment during this time warrant further study."

A bar graph shows statistics for four years, with the final year higher than all others. Household food insecurity increased last year by 18 per cent over 2021. (Proof report)

According to the data compiled by Proof, based on data from Statistics Canada's 2021 Canadian Income Survey, 6.9 million people in the 10 provinces, including almost 1.8 million children, lived in a food-insecure household last year.

The report said this is a "considerable increase from 2021 during a period of unprecedented inflation." In fact, household food insecurity increased last year by 18 per cent over 2021.

"The persistently high prevalence of household food insecurity across Canada highlights the need for more effective, evidence-based policy responses by federal and provincial governments," stated the report, which was released earlier this month.

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Mia Urquhart is a journalist with CBC New Brunswick, based in Saint John. She can be reached at mia.urquhart@cbc.ca.

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David Amos 
Surprise Surprise Surprise 
 
 
 
Rhys Philbin  
What a nice expression for not having the funds to eat. 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Rhys Philbin 
Welcome back to the circus  
 


 
 
Albert Wade  

there is always enough money for booze and cigarettes 


David Amos

Reply to Albert Wade 
and gambling machines
 
 
 
 
 
Wendy Simon  
If there is so much insecurity then why are they bringing more people into the province who do not have jobs and no prospects of one in the near future? I see a lot of people at the food banks who are in line with cigarettes and Tim's coffee. If they didn't waste what they had they could buy food. I overheard a conversation on the bus one day that a man is living in a rooming house and he eats one meal a day from Romero House ..'by the time he pays for his room and CIGARETTES he has no money for food.' Really?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Wendy Simon 
Good questions  
 
 
Ian Scott 
Reply to Wendy Simon  
The north shore areas look hard hit with mines closures etc little new small business, far too much public service work EI . The fisherman though are pretty well off as are some cash crop folks. Seasonal though. Why we have migration levels without jobs is a question or housing. There is very little detached being built and poor inventory. 
 
 
Ian Scott 
Reply to Wendy Simon  
I'm always suspicious of the claims and conclusions. These programs, similar to lunch programs, seem to have very little control over who comes and takes from them. Its a bit of a" build it and they will come". Unless there is some means test or method to prevent abluse it's a no brainer for some to save their money and use the frrebies then as you say head to TIms and LC. No quetion inflation has hit some. How many truely fixed incomers, who knows, most are on inflation provided pensions if they worked. Renters are hit due to rent increases but home owners , short of taxes are in the money.  
 
 
Ferdinand Boudreau 
Reply to Wendy Simon 
Don't forget they most likely have a cell phone with a data plan. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Toby Tolly 
went way up when CERB payments kicked in?
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Toby Tolly 
Kinda sorta 
 
 
 
 
 
Mark Benson
Come July this won’t be an issue , the grocery rebate will solve everything 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Mark Benson  
Surely you jest  
 
 
 
 
 
Miles Haukeness
Higgs is right.. better start frac'ing.  
 
 
Rosco holt
Reply to Miles Haukeness 
Nbers won't see any benefit from fracking.  
 
 
Ronald Miller
Reply to Rosco holt
That's based on your extensive background in the area?  
 
 
June Arnott  
Reply to Ronald Miller 
You should read up on the negative of fracking. Only the rich win, and leave nasty pollution behind . The proof is everywhere you look  
 
 
Buford Wilson  
Reply to Miles Haukeness
(Good call, Miles.)  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Ronald Miller  
I agree with Mr Holt
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Buford Wilson
Yea Right 
 
 
Ronald Miller 
Reply to June Arnott
You should read up on the positives of NG. It is a cleaner energy than coal or oil, emits less CO2 and much fewer pollutants. You might want to look into what pays for many of our services and where that money comes from. 
 
 
 
 
 
Anna Barnes 
Lower income folks, including many working people, seniors on fixed incomes, and young families are being hit hard by unaffordable housing (and of course inflation in general) Unless this trend changes, food insecurity is going to get worse, impacting physical and mental health and leading to higher crime levels. Time for the provincial government to wake up and change their priorities. 
 
 
Rosco holt
Reply to Anna Barnes  
They won't unless you kick both main parties out of power. 
 
 
Anna Barnes  
Reply to Rosco holt 
Well I know what you mean but people have to start demanding better from whoever is actually in government. If we don't expect much that's what we're going to get.  
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Anna Barnes 
Our govt gives out toll free numbers and builds jails; we are covered.  
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Anna Barnes   
I pity the young families

Average Canadian house price rose to $716,000 in April — up by $100K since January

After tumbling for much of 2022, the average price has risen 4 months in a row

Pete Evans · CBC News · Posted: May 15, 2023 10:49 AM ADT

 
David Amos 
Reply to Rosco holt 
I concur



https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crea-housing-data-1.6843592

 

Average Canadian house price rose to $716,000 in April — up by $100K since January

After tumbling for much of 2022, the average price has risen 4 months in a row

After plunging due to interest rate hikes throughout last year, the average price of a Canadian resale home has now increased for four months in a row, new numbers showed Monday.

The Canadian Real Estate Association said Monday that the average selling price of a home that sold on its MLS system in April went for $716,000. That's the fourth monthly increase in a row, and it marks a collective increase of more than $100,000 since the start of the year.

After peaking at just over $816,000 in February 2022 — right before the Bank of Canada began its aggressive campaign of rate hikes — Canada's housing market went ice cold for much of last year, as drastically higher mortgage rates made it more expensive to finance the purchase of a home.

Average prices bottomed out a few months later, at just under $630,000 in July.

But after moving essentially sideways until the start of 2023, the market has seemingly resumed its upward momentum ever since.

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Much of the rebound stems from an uptick in sales in the Greater Toronto Area and B.C.'s Lower Mainland, two parts of the country that saw both the biggest gains during the early days of COVID-19, and also the largest drawdown once rates went up.

If numbers from those two markets are stripped out, the national average price drops by more than $144,000, to an average house price of $572,000 in places that are not Toronto or Vancouver.

CREA, which represents more than 100,000 realtors across the country, says the number of homes that sold during the month increased by 11 per cent from March's level to 44,059, and it's now back up to its highest level since last June. But it's still almost 20 per cent below what it was during the feverish market of this time last year.

"Home sales continue to bounce back (with some force) from the multi-decade low observed at the beginning of the year," TD Bank economist Rishi Sondhi said. "Support has come from solid job markets, lower interest rates and improving buyer psychology from a central bank that's on pause [but] affordability remains significantly strained [and] subdued supply is probably playing an even larger role in pushing prices higher."

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Pete Evans is the senior business writer for CBCNews.ca. Prior to coming to the CBC, his work has appeared in the Globe & Mail, the Financial Post, the Toronto Star, and Canadian Business Magazine. Twitter: @p_evans Email: pete.evans@cbc.ca








N.B. pharmacists publicly funded to assess, prescribe for 7 more ailments

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N.B. pharmacists publicly funded to assess, prescribe for 7 more ailments

Move is expected to improve access to primary care, reduce strain on health-care system

Effective immediately, patients can seek care at a participating pharmacy, instead of a doctor's office or after-hours clinic, for the following conditions:

  • Contact allergic dermatitis.
  • Cold sores.
  • Mild to moderate eczema.
  • Gastroesophageal reflux disease.
  • Impetigo
  • Lyme disease prevention after a high-risk tick bite.
  • Mild acne.

Medicare will cover the consultation. Patients will still be responsible for the cost of any medications prescribed for these ailments, as well as any fees for injections provided by pharmacy professionals.

Health Minister Bruce Fitch made the announcement Monday in Riverview.

"Making it easier for patients to receive treatment and reducing the number of people going to a doctor or nurse practitioner for common ailments supports our efforts under our provincial health plan, Stabilizing Health Care: An Urgent Call to Action," he said in a statement.

'Prescription for relief'

The New Brunswick Pharmacists' Association has been advocating for years to expand the role of pharmacists.

It's a "prescription for relief in our health-care system," according to Andrew Drover, president of the association.

"Today's announcement means thousands of patients will be diverted from emergency departments, doctors' offices and clinics.

A man speaking as people behind him look on. Andrew Drover, president of the New Brunswick Pharmacists' Association, said pharmacists have been able to assess and treat 34 conditions since 2014, but with the service for some of these now being publicly funded, it should help divert thousands of patients from emergency rooms and clinics. (Pierre Fournier/Radio-Canada)

New Brunswick pharmacists have been able to assess and treat more than 30 minor ailments, with no need for a doctor or nurse practitioner to be involved, for several years. But patients have had to pay a fee of $20 to $25.

In October 2021, the province began covering non-urgent urinary tract infections in pharmacies for people between 16 and 64 who have previously been diagnosed with an uncomplicated urinary tract infection.

Pharmacists an also provide contraception management and prescribe certain birth control medications, assess and prescribe medication for shingles, and assess and prescribe the antiviral Paxlovid for COVID-19.

In January 2022, New Brunswick added prescription renewals to its list of pharmacy services covered under Medicare. The province said it would allow pharmacists to renew prescriptions at no cost to patients, whether they had a primary care provider or not, and without having to prove it was an emergency.

The change was part of an effort to reduce strain on the health-care system as COVID-19 hospitalizations continued to increase, the government said at the time.

Care sooner, closer to home

Monday's addition to the list of ailments covered by the province "recognizes the knowledge and the education of pharmacists," said Anastasia Shiamptanis, registrar of the New Brunswick College of Pharmacists. "Patient care is at the core of what pharmacists and pharmacy technicians do, and this is a good extension of their role in primary care."

Jonathan Walsh, pharmacist and independent owner of Riverview Guardian Pharmacy, also welcomed the announcement, saying it will help patients get the care they need sooner and closer to home.

"This decision will reduce demand on hospitals, emergency departments, walk-in clinics, and family physicians," he said in a statement. "It also frees up time for our health-care partners, allowing doctors, nurses, and other health-care providers to focus on more complex care cases."

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David Amos
Hmmmm
 
 
David Amos
Perhaps somebody should talk to me about Lyme disease  
 
 
 
 
Sandra Boudreau 
our pharmacists need to be able to refill prescriptions for those of us without a doctor. this will free up hundreds of hours of clinic time. diabetic prescriptions, thyroid, cholesterol, all common drugs.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Sandra Boudreau 
I Wholeheartedly Agree 
 
 
John Montgomery
Reply to Sandra Boudreau 
Mine just faxes the doctor that prescribed me and he spends two minutes rubber stamping it. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to John Montgomery 
My doctor retired 
 
 
 
 
 

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McAdam vigilante victim accused of threatening to use flare gun during sexual assault

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McAdam vigilante victim accused of threatening to use flare gun during sexual assault

Blake Scott was victim at the centre of high-profile vigilante justice case of Billy McGillicuddy

A man who was a victim of vigilante justice has been charged with threatening to use a weapon — a flare gun — during a sexual assault.

Blake Scott, 37, has also been charged with assault by way of strangling the same person on May 3 in the southwestern New Brunswick village of McAdam.

Scott was remanded into custody following a bail hearing in Fredericton provincial court on Thursday and is expected to be back in court to enter a plea on June 1.

The name of the victim and details from the bail hearing are subject to a publication ban.

Last June, Billy McGillicuddy hit Scott with a baseball bat after accusing him of looking at his 11-year-old daughter while she was walking through a tunnel along a walking trail in McAdam.

In an incident later that same day, McGillicuddy struck Scott in the head before throwing him to the ground and kicking him.

A man stands in a wooded area wearing an orange hat and sunglasses. Billy McGillicuddy of the McAdam area was sentenced to 18 months in jail for assaulting and unlawfully confining Scott. (Billy McGillicuddy/Facebook)

McGillicuddy then hit Scott twice with a chair before forcing him to strip naked and ordering him to get into his truck.

Scott ran away, still naked, and was let into a neighbour's house, from where he called police.

McGillicuddy pleaded guilty to assault and unlawful confinement and was sentenced last November to 18 months in jail.

McGillicuddy's initial court appearances drew crowds of supporters to the justice building in Fredericton.

McGillicuddy lives in St. Croix but garnered support from McAdam residents, including Mayor Ken Stannix, who said he "wanted to support the individuals who allegedly took the law into their own hands."

Stannix said people in his village were getting frustrated with a rise in property crime, adding that "the criminals are getting away with everything."

Local discontent over petty crime and policing prompted a community meeting with provincial officials and top-ranking New Brunswick RCMP officers, and resulted in the RCMP initiating night patrols in McAdam.

Around that time, Scott said in an interview that he'd been wrongly characterized as a thief. He said he'd been in trouble a few years before for break and enter but served a jail sentence and had not broken the law again.

CBC News asked the RCMP for more information about the charges Scott faces, and in an email, Cpl. Hans Ouellette, a spokesperson, said it would be inappropriate to comment on evidence that may be part of court proceedings.

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Aidan Cox is a journalist for the CBC based in Fredericton. He can be reached at aidan.cox@cbc.ca and followed on Twitter @Aidan4jrn.

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Anglophone education councils looking to courts to preserve powers

‘Strong argument’ that Charter protections apply to English boards, expert says

The councils could argue that language-equality provisions in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms entitles them to the same powers that the province is keeping in place for their francophone counterparts. 

"It's certainly one of the arguments that they can put forward and I believe a strong argument for them," says Michel Doucet, a retired law professor and expert on language rights.

Anglophone East member Kristin Cavoukian says the four councils are considering "all of our legal options," but haven't made a decision on whether to go to court.

"We believe that there might be Charter issues involved, and we believe there might be other possibilities of potentially getting an injunction." 

A man wearing a suit speaks to people holding up microphones to his face.   An updated Education Act, introduced by Education Minister Bill Hogan, passed first reading last week and is expected to be debated and win final approval in the legislature before the end of June. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Last week, Education and Early Childhood Development Minister Bill Hogan introduced an updated Education Act in the legislature.

It will eliminate the decision-making power of the four anglophone district education councils, but will keep the status quo in place for the three francophone councils.

Hogan told reporters he had no choice.

Section 23 of the Charter gives the minority-language community in each province the right to govern their own schools.

"There are Charter rights on the francophone side as a minority community in our province, and we're not going to mess around with Charter rights," he said last week. 

But Doucet says another section of the Charter could force Hogan to keep those same powers in place for the anglophone councils.

Section 16.1(1) of the Charter, which applies specifically to New Brunswick, says the province's two language communities have "equality of status and equal rights and privileges."

And it says that includes the right to "such distinct educational and cultural institutions as are necessary for the preservation and promotion of those communities."

Doucet says the case would not be a slam dunk because that section doesn't mention school governance.

There is a strong argument that the right is implied, but the province would likely argue "that the language is not exactly the same" as what's in Section 23, he said.

"But I believe there is a strong argument that the right to manage is included in Section 16.1."

He also pointed out a 2001 New Brunswick Court of Appeal decision interpreting Section 16.1(1) said that in some situations, the francophone minority may need to be "treated differently" to help it achieve equality. 

That may make it harder for the anglophone education councils to argue that direct decision-making power is needed. 

"I believe that might be the biggest obstacle that they might need to go over," he said. 

A woman. Kristin Cavoukian, a member of the Anglophone East district education council, says the loss of decision-making power will affect decisions on building new schools for fast-growing city populations (Maeve McFadden/CBC)

Cavoukian said the province's recent plan to replace French immersion was an example of a measure that would target only anglophone schools.

"The Charter protects minority communities' autonomy over their education system for good reason. It's to protect them from government overreach," she said.

"Recent experience has shown that the anglophone community in this province also needs protection from this particular government's overreach." 

'The whims of one man'

Cavoukian says the loss of DEC decision-making power will affect decisions on building new schools for fast-growing city populations and eliminate a council's ability to consult rural communities on school closures.

Under the current Policy 409, the minister identifies schools that should be studied for closure and the councils hold three-step public consultation before making a decision.

A minister can overrule a decision to close a school but can't close a school that the DEC wants to keep open — something Cavoukian says will now change.

"Getting us out of the way by removing our authority to make decisions basically removes the last line of defence and leaves our schools open to partisan politics, essentially, and whatever the whims of one man in Fredericton might be on any given day." 

In 2015, the Anglophone East district education council voted to keep open two schools in Dorchester and Riverside-Albert that were studied for closure.

The provincial government did not comment on the possibility of a legal challenge or on the suggestion that Section 16.1(1) of the Charter could protect the decision-making power of anglophone education councils.

The new Education Act passed first reading last week and is expected to be debated and win final approval in the legislature before the end of June. 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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David Amos
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If anyone wishes to recall I made the same argument in 2008 

 

 

 

Canadian Minister Of Defense Talks About Banker Takeover of Canada

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Greetings to all SFS members and supporters- just to let you know that I and a few other community leaders have taken a lead in the hopes of preserving the Vogue Theatre facility as a venue for continuing as a theatrical venue and for other cultural events. This is a road that has to be traversed in a sensible and focussed direction and so this is moving slowly and carefully. When we are in a position to mobilize fundraising and other initiatives, these will be reported on here. In the meantime everyone should hopefully be creating their own list of contact people who would be supportive of a major fundraising initiative. More soon.

David Raymond Amos
I have many fond memories of going to the movies at the Vogue with my Father and Brother in the 50s and early 60s. They are both gone now but the Vogue and my memories remain. 
 
 
Erin Robar
I am going to send you a private message about my experience and how I might be able to help.
 
Allan Patrick Barnes
what Realtor is selling the property?
 
 
 
 
 

Canadian Minister Of Defense Talks About Banker Takeover of Canada

David Amos
I had a lot of respect for Paul Hellyer when I first ran for a seat in 2004 but it faded over the years This video reminded me as to one of the many reasons why I ran again in 2015
 
David Amos
On Feb 11th, 2015 a dude using the ID "AMERICA SUCKS" sang the praises of Hellyer in a CBC article and posted a link to this video. It was the first comment anyone would see if they checked out that news item for the past 8 years Tonight I responded with the exactly the same words posted above and within minutes the CBC moderators caught it and deleted BOTH COMMENTS. Go Figure
 
Tommy Olsen
Thanks for all the hard work Paul hellyer have done for the people of the world, and thanks again to Luke for an great interview! 
 
 
 
Roger Stancill
This is a man who has something to say, worth hearing.watch this and pass it on. People need to know thisand it is in fairly simple terms to understand.
 
 
 
The Rand-Man  
Hey Luke, I appreciate all the work you do to inform the public about the corruption of the system. Though I often wonder why you haven't interviewed (or ever mention) the courageous work of Kevin Annett and the common law tribunal, which was newly proclaimed a sovereign republic in Canada on January 15th. If you haven't heard of the Itccs you may read more about it on: http://itccs.org
 
 
 
Cameron Minke
paul is a legend in my country love him
 
 
 
7seven7
 Thank you both for this info. I realize that economics is the main topic in your conversation, however it is only a problem created by the people without ethics, They don't care about the health and well being of anyone else unless it is in their own interests. Until the majority of people start thinking collectively, becoming involved, taking action as our forefathers did, but so much more, as our tools knowledge has grown. Its time to change history not relive it over and over. Its time for the real golden age and we need to first tear down. expose all the truths learn from them, and never let this happen again.
 
 
 
Betty Rubble
Excellent interview!  Thank you!
 
 
 
Eric Culver
The answer isn't making the central banks public. Although that would help somewhat. The answer is allowing multiple banks to compete. Central banks aren't powerful because they are privatized. They are powerful because they have a monopoly.
 
 
 

Owner of Sackville's Vogue Cinema needs $100K to save theatre

A fundraising campaign is underway to save the downtown theatre that opened in the 1940s

Vogue Cinema threat

8 years ago
Duration 2:22
Sackville trying to save its downtown theatre
 
 Sackville's Vogue Cinema has been showing films at its Bridge St. location since it opened in the 1940s but owner Jeff Coates says unless he can raise $100,000 it will close.

Coates has started a fundraising campaign to save the art deco, single-screen theatre that is a hub for the arts community.

He says improvements to the historic building and its projection system were necessary in 2012 because it was becoming difficult to find movies on film, but that switch is what has led to the crushing debt.

Sackville's Vogue Cinema opened in the 1940s. (CBC)

"When we did do that it was almost $100,000 to do it at the time because the theatre wasn't exactly your big box theatre."

Coates says his private investor is calling the loan and the roof of the theatre needs to be repaired so he has no choice but to ask the community for help.

He has launched an on-line fundraising campaign with a goal of $100,000.

Sackville Film Society member Thaddeus Holownia says the Vogue Cinema is worth saving.

"Myself, I think it's a place that's unparalleled … right in the heart of downtown, a real community place," he said.

Holownia has been showing art house films at the theatre once a week since the late 1970s.

Thaddeus Holownia and the Sackville Film Society play art house films on Thursday nights during the school year at the Vogue Cinema.

"If the Vogue closed I think that would be a very big vacuum, and I would hate to see that happen."

The theatre is also used by local music festivals as a venue for bands.

Lucas Hicks, the creative director of Sappyfest, organized a benefit concert, raising $500, as soon as he heard about the Vogue's trouble.

"Unfortunately it takes almost losing something to realize that you have something really good and to keep using it as much as possible."

Coates says he appreciates the support that's been pouring in and he is hoping the fundraising campaign will be a success.

"I've been trying to do this on my own for so long and it's it's hard to reach out for help but the time comes when you have to."

 
 
 
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David Amos 
I have many fond memories of going to the movies at the Vogue with my Father and Brother in the 50s and early 60s. They are both gone now but the Vogue and my memories remain. 
 
 
 
AMERICA SUCKS 

 
 
David Amos  
Reply to AMERICA SUCKS
I had a lot of respect for Paul Hellyer when I first ran for a seat in 2004 but it faded over the years This video reminded me as to one of the many reasons why I ran again in 2015
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to David Amos   
Wow that wasn't long going "POOF" 
 
 
   
GreenerPastures
Isn't this just the beginning of what will be a reoccurring need for vast sums of monies to be found? We need to be realistic if there are no white knights willing to throw good money after bad. We have lost the ability to even secure our present, let alone our future.We must not be afraid to bury the past when it is time, else we become weighed down by the enormity of what it means to try and make things that were meant to have a limited life live forever. Good luck just the same. There may be ways to delay the inevitable.  
 
 
NB-eh 
Reply to GreenerPastures 
@StrictlyFacts

Sounds to me like the owner isn't really after handouts.

People are posting about Eh government and taxpayers. Yet there isn't a word in the article about government funding or asked for. Seems he is asking elsewhere for the funds.

He also had obtained personal funding, who knows why the lender needed the money back. Maybe they incurred extra ordinary expenses themselves.

Secondly, roofs do need to be rebuilt. Even on a home. But it's not a yearly thing but every few decades. Same as upgrading to new delivery technology, it'll be over a decade before that's needed to be again, if not longer.

This really does iterate one thing though. Everyone moans and complains about business and how much they make. Well for one thing, here's a clear example of why businesses need tons of money in reserve. Buildings grow old, equipment needs replaced. That can cost hundred thousand in this case, or several million for even bigger buildings. Moony and a sizeable profit is needed and not evil.

 
David Amos  
Reply to GreenerPastures
The Fat Lady ain't sung yet  
 
 
 

'Grassroots uprising' hoping to save 77-year-old Sackville movie house

The Vogue Cinema closed its doors recently because of financial pressure, owner says

"Whether it was a film on the screen or live presentations, it was built for sound to carry and not be overwhelming," said owner Jeffery Coates.

And that's how he wants it to stay, despite having to close the doors recently and put it up for sale in this university town, around 48 kilometres southeast of Moncton.

Some members of the community have the same goal and are hoping to come up with a plan to save the beloved theatre.

A man sitting in a theatre with red accents on the walls Jeffery Coates, photographed inside the Vogue Cinema in 2015 photo, has owned the theatre since 2006. (CBC)

Thaddeus Holownia, the longtime programmer and director of the Sackville Film Society, is a renowned artist and emeritus professor of fine arts at Mount Allison University. He's leading the charge to save the historic art deco theatre.

"I think that the immediate response of [our] closely-knit community was, 'Hey, what are we going to do if we don't have our theatre here?'" said Holownia.

"So there was kind of a grassroots uprising and people started to communicate through social media."

The Facebook page of the film society has been attracting comments from like-minded people who have a soft spot for the Vogue.

'A gem'

The Vogue Cinema was built in 1946, according to information from Tantramar Heritage Trust.

The site was purchased in 1941 by M.E.Walker after having been vacant since 1912, when the original building was destroyed by a fire that took out an entire block in Sackville's downtown.

The building changed hands a few times, and in September of 1995, Coates found himself working there.

He fell in love with the theatre and what it did for the community. 

"It was a gem to hold on to and to keep going and to tell the story that was behind it," he said.

I just, for lack of better words, I drowned.
- Jeff Coates, Vogue Cinema 

Coates purchased the Vogue in January 2006, but shortly after, he found himself struggling as the movie industry started shifting with the introduction of digital cinema.

Before buying, Coates knew the shift to digital was coming, but he didn't think it would happen that fast. He thought he'd have time to pay off a chunk of the purchase before the transition.

But in 2012, he had to convert to a digital system because film was almost completely unavailable for theatres.

He was working on paying off that debt when the building's roof developed a leak that started causing damage. And then COVID-19 hit and Coates had to fork over more than $70,000 for a new roof at a time when the theatre wasn't bringing in patrons. 

"I've spent so much of my time working full-time to survive personally, while the business was keeping itself afloat, and then all of a sudden, it's not floating, and then I'm injecting more and more time and cash from my personal life," said Coates. 

"And then I just, for lack of better words, I drowned."

Coates said his hope was to retire early and put more time into the theatre, but he couldn't get there.

Hope for the future

Holownia said in the last four or five years, the downtown core of Sackville has suffered a number of business losses, some from fire and some from the economic strain of COVID-19, so he hopes the community will be able to bring the Vogue back to life.

He pictures the Vogue becoming a cultural centre that serves multiple purposes — some nights dedicated to the film community, with others for special events, such as book launches or music performances.

But at a listing price of $299,000, the acquisition of the theatre is easier said than done. Holownia there are a lot of questions to answer before before moving ahead, including what kind of repairs the building may need and how much that would cost.

"And then, what's it cost to actually run the place and maintain it? And then figure out whether that number is something that's achievable in terms of fundraising."

A man with shoulder-length blonde hair and small circular glasses. Thaddeus Holownia, programmer and director of the Sackville Film Society, is one of the community members trying to save the Vogue. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)

He is hoping the community has time to figure things out before someone else comes along and buys the building.

"I think this would really, really be a great, heartening positive for the community," said Holownia.

'A unique place'

Coates said the theatre has been quietly listed and there are multiple people interested, but he's working with his real estate agent to put together a presentation package for the local group and other potential buyers.

He said there's a learning curve for anyone unfamiliar with the movie industry, but if someone wants to continue using the space as intended, he is willing to train the buyer to help them succeed.

"At the end of the day, I want to see the place saved, so whatever it takes to save the place, and get it back open as soon as possible, is what my goal is," he said.

"It's such a unique place. ... You feel warm and welcomed when you're in there."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Hannah Rudderham is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick. She grew up in Cape Breton, N.S., and moved to Fredericton in 2018. You can send story tips to hannah.rudderham@cbc.ca.

 
 
 
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Albert Wade 
I remember when it was for sale for $100k. At the time I thought of buying it, renovating the balcony into a loft condo with a balcony out onto the street. The theaters main seating would remain for movies and live venues.

The entrance would become a combination candy counter and licensed Cafe open daily.

 
 
 
Lou Bell
Unfortunately , much like the failing infrastructure in our housing where money hasn't been put into the maintenance of many buildings , much due to stagnant increases in rents , and when the time comes to have to either tear them down , or up the rent and do the repairs needed , and due to public outcries stifling rent increases , we've seen , as reported , the loss of thousands of properties available for rent to the public because many can't see the forest for the trees . Maybe we should hear from the area's MLA on this one . Who pays ( most likely middle class taxpayers ) , who loses out ( most likely middle class taxpayers and those needing low rental housing ) , and who benefits ( movie goers ) . 


Lou Bell
I highly doubt we'll hear from the Green MLA on this one .  
 
 
 
 
 
 

Child and youth advocate, N.B. premier clash over need to review LGBTQ school policy

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Child and youth advocate, N.B. premier clash over need to review LGBTQ school policy

Kelly Lamrock says department received only 3 emailed complaints, but Blaine Higgs says there were more

Kelly Lamrock says the review appears to have been prompted by a total of three emails to the department over the 30 months since Policy 713 was adopted.

"I am not sure any government decision could survive if receiving three complaints led to reconsideration," he writes in a letter to departmental officials attached to a report he issued Tuesday.

WATCH | Premier Blaine Higgs answers reporters' questions about Policy 713 

Premier Blaine Higgs responds to reporters’ questions about Policy 713

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Higgs says schools should have to inform parents if a child under 16 wants to change their names and pronouns, and that young children should not be exposed to drag queen storytimes.

Last week, Education Minister Bill Hogan told reporters he had received complaints numbering in the "hundreds, at least" about the policy.

Hogan repeated that claim in the legislature Tuesday, and Premier Blaine Higgs told reporters the number is "much more than three."

In an often contentious media scrum, Higgs defended the review, which the department says will examine whether parents should be informed if children under the age of 16 want to adopt a different name and pronoun at school.

"For it purposefully to be hidden from the parents, that's a problem," Higgs said.

The premier said he wants all children "to feel comfortable and safe" in school and acknowledged some children may fear telling their parents about their sexual orientation or gender identity.

But he said that ultimately schools should be obligated to tell parents everything.

"That's why we have children and that's why we have adults," he said. "And that's why we have parents.

"To suggest that it's OK that parents don't need to know — just stop and think about that question for a moment."

Policy 713 sets minimum requirements for schools to create a safe, welcoming environment for lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, intersex and two-spirited students. 

A man speaking. Education Minister Bill Hogan issued a statement Tuesday morning explaining which parts of Policy 713 are being reviewed. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Until this week, Hogan has been vague about the specifics of the complaints — an ambiguity that Lamrock says in his report can allow hate to fester. 

"If you're going to review a policy, like Policy 713, you'd better be clear about what details you're reviewing," he writes.

"Because if you treat it like just another review, a loud minority will use that platform to attack vulnerable kids and make them feel scared and ashamed of who they are."

On Tuesday morning, just hours before Lamrock's report was released, Hogan issued a statement clarifying which parts of Policy 713 are being reviewed.

He said one is the provision that allows students under the age of 16 to change their preferred first name and pronoun without their parents knowing.

The statement said the second is "the process for team sport selection and participation." The policy allows students to participate in extracurricular activities "that are safe, welcoming, and consistent with their gender identity."

A group of people stand outside a historical building. Several people are carrying large pride flags. Supporters of Policy 713 gathered outside the legislature in Fredericton on Saturday afternoon. (Isabelle Arseneau/Radio-Canada)

Hogan's statement also mentioned concerns "about the age appropriateness of what is taught in the classroom when it comes to sexual education," though curriculum is not covered by the policy.

For example, Higgs told reporters, he doesn't think elementary and kindergarten children should attend drag queen storytime events.

"We're teaching kids to develop and grow, and they need to be making decisions as they get older and they get wiser. Are we trying to teach tolerance and acceptance, or are we trying to teach promotion?"

Opposition MLAs said they were disappointed with Higgs's comments.

Liberal Leader Susan Holt said the premier has to show leadership and explain to New Brunswickers "why students may confide in a teacher or a counsellor information that they do not feel comfortable sharing with their parent, and that you have to protect the child and their interests in that case."

Green MLA Kevin Arseneau said he doesn't expect his children's teachers to tell him everything.

"I think any kid should be able to go to school and feel that's a safe space, and if they don't feel that openness at home and want to start using that language elsewhere, I don't think necessarily in that case a parent needs to know." 

Hogan's statement said New Brunswick "isnot the only jurisdiction engaged in this conversation," though it didn't identify any others.

"We want to have a conversation with New Brunswickers so we can hear their views, address misconceptions and concerns, and provide the very best educational environment for all our students."

The statement didn't say where that conversation would take place but emphasized the policy won't be repealed and the school system will respect human rights.

"We will always protect our most vulnerable and ensure they have a safe and inclusive educational environment," it said. "We respect and embrace differences in all of our students."

Request for clarity

Lamrock's report called on Hogan to make that clear. 

The child and youth advocate also said there were no written complaints about Policy 713 from teachers or students. 

"In my respectful view, that matters," he wrote.

"There may be some who would like to insert themselves into the school community to tell vulnerable kids that they don't like their choices, or their freedoms, or them. Politics is just letting the culture wars rage past the school doors. Leadership is drawing lines that keep our kids safe." 

A crowd of people huddled together with some rainbow flags raised in the air. Around 350 people showed up at King's Square in Saint John on Monday to protest the review of Policy 713. (Mia Urquhart/CBC)

The policy, adopted in 2020, says students have the right to self-identify and express themselves without fear of consequence, and teachers must create a school culture where the students "see themselves and their lives positively reflected."

The policy allows students to pick which pronouns apply to them and requires teachers to respect their choice. It lets them establish gender-sexuality alliance groups without requiring parental consent or notification. 

It also says each school must have at least one gender-neutral bathroom. 

Lamrock's report includes the three emailed complaints.

One compares gender identity issues to "Marxist and racist critical race theory," another says Policy 713 marginalizes Christians, and a third asks about a widespread but debunked belief that students can identify as animals and use litter boxes in schools.

The New Brunswick Human Rights Commission also weighed in on the review this week, issuing a statement that it "expresses concern" about reports of a review.

"It is in times such as these that we should be able to rely on our government to uphold the culture of respect, equality, and dignity of all persons, which our society has achieved after prolonged sacrifices and hardships," it said. "These rights are here to stay."

The review prompted a protest at the New Brunswick legislature on Saturday and another by high school students in uptown Saint John on Monday. 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Higgs called 'deplorable' as education council members condemn review of LGBTQ policy

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Higgs called 'deplorable' as education council members condemn review of LGBTQ policy

Council members also criticize government for bill that limits their power

"I know it's recent news, it just came out, but the premier's comments regarding Policy 713 tonight are absolutely deplorable," Dominic Vautour said during the council's meeting Tuesday evening in Moncton. 

It was one of a series of comments by Anglophone East council members, who oversees a district in the southeast region of the province with more than 18,000 students, that criticized the government and its approach to education.

Vautour's comments came as the council voted to send a letter to Education Minister Bill Hogan urging preservation of the policy in place since 2020.

Earlier in the day, the province's child and youth advocate released a report critical of the province's review of the policy. 

Kelly Lamrock said the review appeared to be the result of three emails over 30 months, a significantly smaller number than the "hundreds" of complaints Hogan and Higgs have claimed the government has received.

Higgs spoke to reporters for nearly 20 minutes at the legislature Tuesday to defend the review.

He said parents should be informed by schools if children under the age of 16 want to adopt a different name and pronoun at school.

WATCH | Premier Blaine Higgs answers reporters' questions about Policy 713: 

Premier Blaine Higgs responds to reporters’ questions about Policy 713

Duration 2:03
Higgs says schools should have to inform parents if a child under 16 wants to change their names and pronouns, and that young children should not be exposed to drag queen storytimes.

The premier also said he doesn't think elementary and kindergarten children should attend drag queen storytime events, asking if schools are to promote something instead of teaching. 

'You can count us as thousands'

Vautour said in an interview after the meeting that there are children who don't feel safe expressing their identity to their parents. 

"For us to put an age limit where the parent is contacted if a child decides to speak to a guidance counselor to join an alliance group, or whatever it may be that would be outing that child to the parents, which may be hostile," Vautour said.

A man in a polo shirt smiling. Dominic Vautour, a member of the Anglophone East district education council, called the premier's comments on Policy 713 deplorable. (Anglophone East District Education Council)

"We've seen it time and time again in other jurisdictions and other countries, how harmful that can be to the children."

The premier's office did not respond to a request for comment Tuesday evening. 

Council members voiced a series of remarks critical of Hogan's claim about the number of complaints that led to the review launched in April.

"Minister Hogan, there are 11 of us. You can count us as thousands," Ian Hebblethwaite, another council member, said of the group's support for keeping Policy 713.

"Can we talk about numeracy now?" member Kristin Cavoukian said followed by laughs in the room. 

WATCH | Students rallied in favour of Policy 713 during a demonstration on Monday:  

High school students walk out in support of N.B. gender-identity policy

Duration 1:56
The provincial government has confirmed it will be reviewing Policy 713 because of hundreds of complaints they say were received from parents and teachers.

"Obviously numeracy has failed some people in this province," Vautour said, going on to speak about the premier. 

Superintendent Randy MacLean told the council the district would continue to strive to create safe spaces for students. 

Legal challenge of council powers planned

It was the second topic in which council members were highly critical of the province's approach. Earlier, they voted to hire legal representation to challenge Bill 46. 

The bill introduced last week would eliminate decision-making authority at four anglophone school districts, but preserve it with francophone districts. 

A woman. Kristin Cavoukian, an Anglophone East district education council member, was among those critical of the province reviewing Policy 713 and proposed changes to council powers. (Maeve McFadden/CBC)

"This is important," Hebblethwaite said ahead of the unanimous vote. "It's about local representation. The government is proposing to remove that."

Multiple council members said the province appeared to want to centralize power in Fredericton after a fight over changes to French immersion in the anglophone sector. 

They suggested reducing the power of councils to make decisions could see controversial changes made without local input.

"We become a consultative body that can be ignored," Cavoukian said.

The vote was a concrete step toward a formal legal challenge the four anglophone districts threatened to launch in a news release last week.

It wasn't clear whether the other councils would also vote to hire a lawyer.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Shane Magee

Reporter

Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC. He can be reached at shane.magee@cbc.ca.

 
 
 
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David Amos  
"It wasn't clear whether the other councils would also vote to hire a lawyer."

Thats an understatement

 

Four federal byelections will be held on June 19

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Four federal byelections will be held on June 19

Seats left vacant by three retirements, death of Jim Carr

The byelections will be held to replace three MPs who have chosen to leave federal politics, including former Liberal cabinet minister Marc Garneau (Notre-Dame-de-Grâce–Westmount, in Quebec), Conservative MP Dave MacKenzie (Oxford, in Ontario) and former Conservative interim leader Candice Bergen (Portage–Lisgar, in Manitoba).

A race will also be held to fill a Manitoba seat left vacant by the death of former Liberal cabinet minister Jim Carr in Winnipeg South Centre.

All four seats are generally considered safe districts for the parties who most recently held them. Winnipeg South Centre was the closest contest in the 2021 federal election, with Carr carrying the riding by about 18 percentage points.

Another seat, Calgary Heritage, remains vacant, with a byelection expected to be called after the conclusion of the Alberta provincial election.

Not all parties have announced who will be contesting the byelections, but here's what we know so far about the races:

Notre-Dame-de-Grâce–Westmount (Que.)

Former cabinet minister and astronaut Marc Garneau, 74, resigned his seat in the House of Commons in March, having represented his Quebec riding since 2008. Garneau also served in various cabinet positions since 2015, and ran for the Liberal leadership in 2013.

The Montreal riding is a Liberal stronghold, and the Liberal candidate, to be announced Monday, should be seen as the favourite to win the byelection.

A man with gray hair wearing a suit with a pink tie waves and smiles. Marc Garneau, a longtime Liberal MP, cabinet minister and former astronaut, retired in March. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)

The New Democratic Party has two candidates for the nomination, with no nomination date yet set:

  • Jean-François Filion: An English teacher at Westmount's École International and a member of the NDP's Quebec committees for relations with Indigenous nations and the environment.
  • Malcolm Lewis-Richmond: A longtime NDP member who is currently taking on the Liberal government as part of the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada's bargaining team.

Oxford (Ont.)

After two decades as the Conservative MP in Oxford, Dave MacKenzie, 76, announced his retirement in December, standing down in late January.

The safe Conservative riding in rural southwestern Ontario hasn't elected a Liberal since 2000, and recently featured a divisive nomination battle — with allegations that Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and former leader Andrew Scheer were interfering in the race to the advantage of the eventual candidate, Arpan Khanna. Khanna was a senior member of Poilievre's leadership campaign team.

The Conservatives' candidate selection committee voted in March to disqualify Gerrit Van Dorland from seeking the nomination in Oxford.

RightNow, an anti-abortion group working to elect MPs that share their views on abortion, has cried foul, claiming Van Dorland was disqualified because of his views on the issue.

A Conservative Party spokesperson said in a media statement that Van Dorland was disqualified because he failed to disclose required information during the candidate application process.

In an unusual move, MacKenzie has since come out publicly in support of Liberal David Hilderley, who is seeking the Liberal nomination in Oxford. The Liberals will announce their candidate on May 15.

Cody Groat, an assistant professor in history and Indigenous studies at Western University in London, Ont., has been confirmed as the riding's NDP candidate.

Portage–Lisgar (Man.)

Former interim Conservative leader Candice Bergen, who served as MP for the Manitoba riding of Portage-Lisgar since 2008, resigned her seat in the House of Commons in February.

Bergen, 58, served as interim leader of the Conservatives and Opposition leader from February to September 2022. Prior to that, she served as deputy leader of the Conservatives.

Branden Leslie, Bergen's former campaign manager, was nominated as the party's candidate earlier this month, beating out Cameron Friesen, a longtime Manitoba MLA for the provincial riding of Winkler-Morden.

 A blonde haired woman speaks at a podium.Candice Bergen, who served as interim leader of the Conservatives, resigned her seat in the House of Commons in February. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

People's Party of Canada Leader Maxime Bernier, a former Conservative cabinet minister in Stephen Harper's government, has announced that he will run in the riding to try to wrest the deep blue seat from the Conservatives.

Bergen easily won the riding in 2021, winning more than 50 per cent of the vote. The People's Party of Canada candidate came in second with 22 per cent of the vote.

Kerry Smith, a senior director in the Manitoba Métis Federation, is the Liberal candidate in Portage-Lisgar.

The NDP has not announced a candidate for the riding yet.

Winnipeg South Centre (Man.)

Former Manitoba MP Jim Carr, who represented Winnipeg South Centre since 2015, was diagnosed with multiple myeloma — a type of blood cancer — the day after he was re-elected on Oct. 21, 2019. He also suffered kidney failure.

Two months after Carr passed away on Dec. 12 at the age of 71, his son, Ben Carr, announced that he will be seeking the Liberal nomination in the riding his father won on three occasions.

A man in a dark suit and a red tie points as he speaks at a podium. Ben Carr, Jim Carr's son, speaks at his father's memorial service on Dec. 17, 2022. Carr is running to take over his late father's seat in Parliament. (John Woods/The Canadian Press)

Carr, who was confirmed as the party's candidate in April, has a strong chance of becoming the next MP for the Winnipeg riding, a reliable but not exclusive Liberal seat.

The NDP has nominated Julia Riddell, a clinical psychologist, to run in the riding. Riddell, who was acclaimed in the nomination race, works in the public health-care system and teaches at the University of Manitoba.

The Conservatives have nominated Damir Stipanovic, who has worked as an air traffic controller and in the Royal Canadian Air Force Reserve, to run in the riding.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Christian Paas-Lang covers federal politics for CBC News in Ottawa as an associate producer with The House and a digital writer with CBC Politics. You can reach him at christian.paas-lang@cbc.ca.

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PC caucus rejected review of gender-identity policy once before, former minister says

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PC caucus rejected review of gender-identity policy once before, former minister says

Many Tory MLAs won’t say if they agree with review or endorse premier’s comments on LGBTQ students

The Fredericton West-Hanwell MLA, who sits as an independent, said the policy on sexual orientation and gender identity "was years in the making, involved considerable grassroots engagement and has been in effect without incident for a couple of years."

He said Premier Blaine Higgs raised several concerns in 2020, "most of which were not real," and took it to the PC caucus hoping MLAs would agree to review it.

Instead, the MLAs "largely reacted with support for the policy," he said.

The review of the policy, which sets minimum requirement for making schools safe and inclusive for LGBTQ students, has triggered a wave of criticism. 

 A man in a suit and glasses speaking into a microphone.New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs provoked criticism on Tuesday when he said schools should not be allowed to keep a student's adoption of a new name and pronoun secret from their parents when the student is younger than 16. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Higgs said Tuesday he didn't act on his concerns when the policy was adopted because such policies don't get "a whole lot of air time" and don't require cabinet approval.

"I knew about it, but didn't know the particular content," said the premier, who questioned why it wasn't debated publicly at the time.

But Cardy said he sent the finished document to Higgs's office "for a final look-over" at the time and never heard back, so he signed it into effect just before the 2020 campaign. 

It was only after the election that Higgs summoned him and deputy minister George Daley to a meeting to hear his concerns and then went to the PC caucus hoping to deliver a "coup de grâce," Cardy said.

Instead, the caucus was generally comfortable with the document. 

"It was probably the most well-developed policy that the department had worked on in a number of years, in terms of the number of stakeholders involved and the efforts to get people's voices heard and to make sure it was done carefully," Cardy said.

Current Education Minister Bill Hogan said Wednesday he remembered no such caucus discussion after the last election and didn't recall ever discussing Policy 713 before this year.

Woman speaking into three microphones   Jill Green, minister for housing, wouldn't say if she thinks the policy should be changed. (Radio-Canada)

Housing Minister Jill Green, who co-signed a letter with Cardy in 2021 critical of the government's handling of Indigenous land declarations, wouldn't say if she recalled the caucus endorsing the policy.

"This policy has been in place for a couple of years. We're all aware of it and I'm not going to speak about what we were talking about in caucus or cabinet, of course," she said.

Green also wouldn't say if she thinks the policy should be changed.

"I strongly support children, I strongly support the safety of children, the safety of children in schools and the LGBTQSI children within the schools, and I will use my voice to continue to advocate for them," Green said.

Premier questions drag queen storytime

Higgs provoked strong criticism on Tuesday when he said schools should not be allowed to keep a student's adoption of a new name and pronoun secret from their parents when the student is younger than 16.

He did not clearly explain why he thinks parents should always know about the choice, even in cases where they may be hostile to their child's sexual orientation or gender identity.

He also questioned whether drag queen storytime events in school amounted to "promotion" of a different sexual orientation and refused to say if he thinks children would become gay after participating.

Those remarks prompted an outpouring of criticism online.

Several PC MLAs, including senior cabinet ministers Ernie Steeves, Mike Holland and Jeff Carr, would not take questions on the subject Wednesday.

Moncton South MLA Greg Turner, who chairs the PC caucus, also wouldn't comment.

Opposition Liberal Leader Susan Holt said she suspects most PC MLAs would like Policy 713 to remain as is and that the push to weaken it is coming from Higgs.

"I think his caucus is broadly supportive of the policy, of Policy 713. I don't think this is a partisan thing. I think it's more personal."

A woman with long light-brown hair, in a blue suit and black shirt stands outside the legislature and smiles for the camera. Minister of Women's Equality Minister Tammy Scott-Wallace also says she doesn't know if Policy 713 should be changed. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Some other PC members said they supported the review. 

"It's just a review. A simple review. That's all it is," said Moncton Southwest MLA Sherry Wilson. "It's nothing major to be changed."

She said she "absolutely" supports the premier.

Minister of Women's Equality Tammy Scott-Wallace said Wednesday she did not know if the policy should be changed. 

She said all children need to feel safe and included at school, and parents have "a very important role to play" in their children's lives.

"I'm never afraid to have conversations. It is a new policy so I'm not afraid of the conversations circulating this past week," she said.

Review 'important' says Kris Austin

Public Safety Minister Kris Austin said it's important to have the review. 

He said he has to consent to his school-aged children taking a Tylenol at school, having their picture taken and going on a field trip, and the pronoun issue was no different. 

Hogan and Higgs both argued Wednesday that if a child feels they're in danger at home because of their sexual orientation or gender identify or any other reason, other mechanisms exist for teachers or school staff to step in.

"If a teacher believes there is a serious danger to a student, they are required by law to notify social services," Hogan said.

A woman with short light hair speaks into a microphone. Margaret Johnson, minister of agriculture, aquaculture and fisheries, didn't say whether a child's choice of pronoun should be disclosed to parents. (Radio-Canada)

Carleton-Victoria MLA Margaret Johnson, a former teacher, read a statement in the legislature Wednesday marking the International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia.

Johnson said she volunteered to read it as a former teacher who taught trans students.

She acknowledged to reporters that some children have relationships with their parents "that are not ideal" and agreed those students have ways to get confidential support at school.

But she didn't say whether a child's pronoun choice should have to be disclosed to parents.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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David Amos 
 
Higgy and Cardy deserve each other  
 
 
 
 
danny rugg 
The finger points to ultra religous MP for Fundy Royal Rob Moore , Higgs political connection to the Federal government , and the main supplier of Higgs point of view. The two of them should open their own church together , but neither should be in politics. 
 
 
Alison Jackson
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David Amos

Reply to Alison Jackson
Remember me? 

 

Reply to Alison Jackson
Worked for the guy's landscaping company the summer he ran for office. He and his brother Sam would leave religious pamphlets stuff in our lunch boxes. He was super concerned when he found a Slayer cd in the truck.  
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to danny rugg    
Hmmm
 
 
 
 
 
Marcel Belanger
Higgs is putting his homophobia on full display. This whole fiasco is once again of his own making. I wonder how much more of this his caucus can endure, it’s one after the other recently with our premier. They need to replace him or else Susan Holt will repeat McKenna’s provincial sweep.  
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to Marcel Belanger
Interesting how an allegation like that can stick around for so long. Could it be because it involves a PC politician? humour.  
 
 
Don Corey 
Reply to Don Corey
I'm referring to the first sentence only of Marcel's post. The last one is obviously just in there for humour.  
 
 
David Amos 

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Two words
 

David Amos

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Butter Tarts
 
 
 
 
 

 

 


Policy 713 and kids: Fact checking 4 statements made by the premier

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Policy 713 and kids: Fact checking 4 statements made by the premier

Policy doesn't change sex-ed curriculum and makes no mention of drag storytime

A month after beginning a review of an education policy that protects LGBTQ youth, Premier Blaine Higgs has revealed exactly what is being reviewed and why.

Policy 713 was introduced in 2020 to guarantee minimum support for LGBTQ students. This includes things like making sure teachers use students' correct pronouns and that gender-neutral washrooms are available.

On Tuesday, Higgs said the review is being done for parents' sake.

The policy says if a child wants an informal name or pronoun change to be used in the classroom, then the teacher would need the child's consent to share that fact with the parent. Higgs said the province will study this part of the policy as it may not be appropriate because it takes away parents' rights.

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Higgs made a number of statements. The CBC has fact-checked four of them.

1. The policy is keeping parents in the dark and taking away a parent's right to know about a name change.

Parents must sign off on any official name changes for children under 16, and that rule has not been changed. The policy adds a line about an informal name or pronoun change requiring the child's consent to share that with the parent. 

Gail Costello, the co-chair of Pride in Education, a non-profit that contributed to the implementation of the policy, said teachers have never been obligated to share informal name changes with parents, and this policy is not revoking any previous obligation or parental right.

Costello retired from Oromocto High School after teaching for 30 years. She said she's seen a lot of kids who would be in danger, and possibly isolated or kicked out of their homes, if their parents knew they were trans or gay. She said this is why she would never tell a parent about a name or pronoun change without consent from the student — but she also has never been asked. 

WATCH | Retired teacher reacts to premier's scrum with reporters:

A critic analyzes Premier Blaine Higgs’s comments on Policy 713

Duration 5:20
Gail Costello of Pride in Education watched the premier’s scrum with reporters on a controversial review of a safe-schools policy. Watch to see what she had to say.

Costello said she ran the school's Gay/Straight Alliiance for at least 10 years. "I never, ever, ever had a parent even inquire about it," she said. "If they had, I wouldn't have told them."

Higgs said "Kids are kids and adults are adults," and parents are responsible for their children. But Costello said the safety of the students trumps the parents' desire to know what name their children go by.

"The parents are not going to be in any risk whatsoever to find out that their daughter goes by John as opposed to Joan at school," Costello said. 

"But it is important for the kids to be able to use the name that they feel more comfortable with. It's good for their mental health."

2. Higgs said parental abuse and lack of acceptance "may exist," and it "may be a reality" that outing kids is harmful because some parents are homophobic.

Abuse of LGBTQ children by some parents is a reality.

According to Dr. Alex Abramovich with the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, up to 40 per cent of people struggling with homelessness in North America are LGBTQ youth, and the majority are on the street because of abuse and homophobia at home.

"Family violence and rejection are associated with serious physical and mental health outcomes among [those] youth, including post-traumatic stress disorder, increased risk of suicide, anxiety, depression and substance use," he said.

Costello said some of her students in Oromocto had been kicked out for being outed or discovered as gay or trans, and some of them had slept on park benches for days before she found out.

"I had a student who was very, very worried about being physically abused and kicked out," she said. "This student had a bag prepared, had a friend's parent's phone number, had a little money in bag."

Costello also said some students feel they don't have a way out.

LGBTQ youth '3 times more likely to attempt suicide'

Suicide is the second leading cause of death among people aged 10 to 24 in Canada, after accidents, according to Statistics Canada. Since 2016, about 3,000 youth in that age group died by suicide.

LGBTQ youth are three times more likely to attempt suicide, according to research conducted by JAMA Pediatrics, and trans youth are six times as likely. Those numbers are higher in a more recent Canadian Medical Journal study. 

3. Drag queen storytime is an example of why the review is needed.

Higgs said he doesn't think elementary and kindergarten children should attend drag queen storytime events, asking "Are we trying to teach tolerance and acceptance, or are we trying to teach promotion?"

In fact, Policy 713 does not address drag storytime, and it does not change the sex-education curriculum or what kids are taught in schools. It outlines how trans and gay kids can be protected from discrimination and provides guidelines to administrators on how to make schools safe.

A student stands behind a homemade sign that says "Policy 713 saves lives."     A sign at a Saint John student-led rally in support of the policy that ensures minimum standards for the protection of LGBTQ students in schools. (Lars Schwarz/CBC)

Also, LGBTQ history and education does not make people gay, according to the American Psychiatric Association and many other experts. Conversion therapy is illegal in Canada not only because it's harmful to LGBTQ people, but also because there is no scientific data that shows changing someone's sexuality is possible. 

4. Higgs "can't comment" on whether kitty litter conspiracy theory is true or false.

Child and youth advocate Kelly Lamrock said the review appears to have been prompted by a total of three emails to the department over the 30 months since Policy 713 was adopted. The government has said there were more than three complaints.

One of the three emails that Lamrock references asks about a widespread but debunked belief that students can identify as animals and use litter boxes in schools.

There are no reports from anywhere of children identifying as cats or being provided with kitty litter. The premier said he "doesn't think" the conspiracy theory is true, but would not say it's false.

The theory has in fact been debunked in many jurisdictions including Quebec and Prince Edward Island (in 2021), as well as many places in the United States. 

IF YOU NEED HELP: 

CHIMO hotline: 1-800-667-5005  / http://www.chimohelpline.ca

Kids Help Phone: 1-800-668-6868

Canada Suicide Prevention Service: 1-833-456-4566

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Hadeel Ibrahim is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick based in Saint John. She reports in English and Arabic. Email: hadeel.ibrahim@cbc.ca.

 
 
 
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David Amos

Guess who I talked to again today?

Survey says? 

 

 

G. Timothy Walton  
Higgs is determined to drag this province kicking and screaming into the twentieth century.
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to  G. Timothy Walton  
Everybody knows I am no fan of Higgy's However we happen to agree on this issue which should be no surprise to any politician in New Brunswick
 
 
 
 
Mandel Rooney 
Higgs won't state that the cat litter non-sense in false. Nuff said.
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Mandel Rooney
Ask Higgy about the butter tart fiasco   



Marcel Belanger 
Marcel Belanger 
Reply to Marcel Belanger 
The "data" and not date. 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Marcel Belanger 
I repeat its much ado about nothing 
 
 
 
 
Gary MacKay  
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (insert Premier Higgs here) signs anti-LGBTQ laws affecting gender-affirming care, bathroom use and drag shows.

He may want to consider a move to Fla. He'll fit right in. IMO

 
Ronald Miller 
Reply to Gary MacKay 
If the nonsense you post is true why did they bring Policy 713 in in the first place that protects their rights?  
 
 
Clive Gibbons 
Reply to Ronald Miller 
"They" didn't, Cardy did, and got it through using common decency. Now that the irritant (to them) is gone, they want to get rid of it. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Clive Gibbons  
Dream on
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 

PC minister says not enough LGBTQ consultation on school policy

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PC minister says not enough LGBTQ consultation on school policy

Arlene Dunn says government must hear from ‘folks who live this every day’

Arlene Dunn says while she can defend the fact the review is happening, she's concerned that members of the LGBTQ community are not being heard inside the Progressive Conservative government on Policy 713.

"It doesn't appear to me that there's been enough consultation done, and I would say that's within the community, the marginalized community itself, as well as parents, as well as educators," she told CBC News and Radio-Canada in an interview.

"I don't feel confident standing here saying that there's been enough consultation done. I don't think that there has been, and I think it's important to make sure all those voices are heard before we make decisions." 

Man wearing suit Premier Blaine Higgs says he believes a policy meant to protect LGBTQ youth may be unfair to parents. (Radio-Canada)

Policy 713 sets out minimum requirements for schools to create a safe, inclusive space for students of all sexual orientations and gender identities.

Among other things, it allows students under 16 to adopt a new name and pronouns in the classroom without the school notifying their parents.

Premier Blaine Higgs says that's one element of the policy being reviewed and has made plain his dislike for the provision.

"Parents still want to take control and have responsibility for their kids, not the state and not the province," he said in Question Period on Thursday.

A crowd of people huddled together with some rainbow flags raised in the air. Around 350 people, many of them students from area high schools, showed up at Kings Square in Saint John on Monday to protest the review of Policy 713. (Mia Urquhart/CBC)

Parents "need to be part of their [children's] education to understand what they're learning, when they're learning it and how they're learning it."

Dunn, whose riding saw students from three Saint John high schools rally in support of Policy 713 on Monday, said she'll work from the inside to ensure the LGBTQ community is consulted.

"I'm advocating for it strongly and I'll continue to do that. It's very important to me," she said.

WATCH |'This came sort of as a surprise': Dunn on Policy 713:

Policy 713: Minister says LGBTQ voices not being heard

Duration 3:31
Arlene Dunn says not enough consultation has been done within the LGBTQ community on policy review.

Gail Costello, co-chair of the group Pride in Education that worked on the drafting of the policy, said Thursday the organization has had no contact from the government so far about taking part in the review.

"It tells me there's not going to be much consultation with Pride in Education or the LGBTQ community at large," said Green Leader David Coon.

"The premier seems to have a one-track mind on this and he's going to pursue that come hell or high water." 

Dunn, the minister of Aboriginal affairs, immigration and economic development, said she doesn't object to a review because many MLAs first elected in 2020 aren't familiar with how the policy was developed and what work went into it.

"We owe it to the new members of caucus and cabinet to make sure that we clearly understand what has been the process, what has the consultation looked like, how did we arrive here?" said the first-term PC MLA representing Saint John Harbour.

"I'm not saying we arrived in a bad place, but I think we need to understand how we arrived there." 

Former education minister Dominic Cardy, now an independent MLA, said Higgs brought the policy to the caucus once already, after the 2020 election, and they "largely reacted with support for the policy."

 Man wearing glasses and a goatee stands in from of reporters at the legislature.Education Minister Bill Hogan said he expected the review and changes to the policy to be done within two weeks. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

This week Education Minister Bill Hogan said he expected the review and changes to the policy to be done within two weeks.

Dunn wouldn't say if that's too fast, but said the government needs to hear "from folks who live this every single day" before decisions are made.

She also said PC MLAs  have to be "cognizant that not all children come from homes that are supportive, and not all children are in circumstances where they can go to their parents."

But she added Hogan has assured her that there are other mechanisms in place to allow teachers and school staff to protect students who may be in danger at home.

a woman with light hair and a blue and yellow striped shirt talks to reporters.  For the second straight day the premier did not speak to reporters at the legislature — something he does most days. Opposition Liberal Leader Susan Holt said that shows a lack of leadership. (Pat Richard/CBC)

The minister said officials from the PC party met with the caucus Wednesday night to tell them about "some of the emails they're getting and some of the concerns that they're hearing."

PC Party president Erika Hachey said she had no comment on her presentation to the caucus.

Some other PC ministers and MLAs wouldn't say this week if they support changes to Policy 713.

Higgs fielded questions on the review in legislature Thursday, but for the second straight day he did not speak to reporters — something he does most days.

"That shows a lack of leadership and a lack of transparency," Opposition Liberal Leader Susan Holt said.

"Clearly they have said things on this file that were damaging to young people in this province and their parents, and to others who are more confused and scared and angry than ever," she said, referring to Higgs's comments on Tuesday.

"Maybe they've realized they're better off to shut their mouth and not make things worse." 

A balding man with glasses is speaking inside the legislature. David Coon, leader of the Green Party said it was encouraging to see some PC MLAs like Dunn expressing themselves. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Coon said he detected "tremendous dissension" among the Tories on the issue.

He said several ministers didn't applaud Higgs's answers in the legislature Thursday and were "essentially sitting on their hands." 

And he said it was encouraging to see some PC MLAs like Dunn expressing themselves.

"It's important on matters as serious as this that members of the government give their views. That's key. This is democracy." 

Dunn confirmed there were disagreements within the PC caucus on the review.

"It's never sunny, and it shouldn't be sunny. If you're going to be a good person representing the constituents and citizens of New Brunswick, you're going to have hard discussions," she said.

"Not everyone's going to agree. But you have to feel comfortable coming to the table and saying how you feel about things." 

Dunn was seen huddling with Higgs and his top communications advisor Nicolle Carlin before she did the interview.

She said she was not criticizing the premier over the review and said she had not asked his permission to speak out. 

"I don't go to the premier looking for a green light," she said.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

 
 
 
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David Amos 
Go Figure

"Higgs fielded questions on the review in legislature Thursday, but for the second straight day he did not speak to reporters — something he does most days." 

 

David Amos 
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The leader of the Green Party said on the radio just now "No one should be muzzled"

Go figure why I laughed

 
 
 
 
G. Timothy Walton  
I sense a cabinet shuffle approaching. 
 
 
David Amos 
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Me Too
 
 
 
 

After N.B.'s deadliest year, COVID-related strokes and heart attacks are in the spotlight

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After N.B.'s deadliest year, COVID-related strokes and heart attacks are in the spotlight

An estimated 9,288 people died in NB in 2022, a 14.5 per cent increase over 2021

"My heart rate was going up as high as 200.  I was very short of breath. I couldn't walk and talk at the same time," said the stay-at-home mother of three from her home in Oromocto, N.B.

Jones has been to the emergency room twice with heart trouble since her COVID infection and was eventually diagnosed with supraventricular tachycardias. It's an "irregularly fast or erratic heartbeat that affects the heart's upper chambers," according to an online explanation by the Mayo Clinic.

Jones is on medicine to slow her heart rate and she is wait-listed for an appointment at the New Brunswick Heart Centre for a procedure to restore her heart's normal rhythm.

A selfie of a woman with long dark hair wearing red lipstick Haley Jones is 32 and developed heart problems after a COVID-19 infection in December. She believes the province is not properly communicating the danger of the virus to the public. (Submitted by Haley Jones)

She feels the ordeal may help explain why New Brunswick residents have been dying in record numbers over the past year. 

"I think that COVID and the consequences of a COVID infection are definitely playing a bigger part than you think," said Jones.

"I'm 32 years old and I'm taking heart medication now."

Statistics Canada last week published what are called "provisional" mortality counts for New Brunswick, which estimated 9,288 people died in the province through 2022.

If confirmed, the number will be a record for the province, obliterating the previous high set in 2021 by a stunning 1,179 deaths.

COVID's full impact still not understood: epidemiologist

New Brunswick has never experienced an increase in death counts anywhere near that size in a single year. Prior to the pandemic, the closest was a war time increase of 510 in 1945.

COVID-19 is known to be directly responsible for about a third of the 2022 increase. Officially, New Brunswick recorded 580 COVID deaths that year which was 421 more than in 2021. 

But some health experts are increasingly convinced the virus is taking a larger toll on people than direct COVID death counts alone reveal. And they believe significantly elevated fatality levels like New Brunswick's are credible evidence of that.

Colin Furness is an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto who has tracked the pandemic's progress in New Brunswick since 2020.

In an interview with CBC:Shift earlier this month, Furness said COVID deaths and infections alone won't reflect the true extent of the damage the virus can cause.

It is a "very 2020, 2021 way to look at this pandemic" said Furness.

A man sitting in front of brown cabinets Infection control epidemiologist Colin Furness said rising deaths from heart attacks and strokes increasingly appear to be related to damage caused by COVID-19 infections. (Dale Molnar/CBC)

Researchers have documented since 2020 that COVID causes vascular damage in some infected people and Furness contends provinces like New Brunswick need to study vascular-related deaths more closely, not just COVID deaths, to understand the virus's full body count. 

"We should actually not be looking at (COVID) deaths per week," said Furness. 

"We should be looking at changes in population life expectancy. We should be looking at rates of heart attack and stroke."

Department is not drawing conclusions

New Brunswick's Department of Health is aware of the record 2022 death estimate but it has no theories about a cause — and isn't prepared to draw any broad conclusions about what it means.

"It wouldn't be prudent to link the analysis on excess deaths to specific medical conditions," wrote department communications officer Sean Hatchard in an email to CBC News.

"Excess deaths could be connected to several factors, including changing demographics and the COVID-19 pandemic, although further analysis will be needed."

Because the death count is a provisional estimate and does not include comprehensive information on causes of death, the province says it is not possible to know exactly what might be causing such a large number.

Hatchard notes that earlier pandemic death estimates for New Brunswick by Statistics Canada were unreliable and subject to significant revisions, although that was caused mostly by spotty reporting of deaths by the province to Statistics Canada that has largely been resolved.

A partial view of a gravestone with a small basket of fake flowers in front of it Headstones in graveyards around New Brunswick reflect what a deadly year 2022 was in the province. More than 100 more people died each month, on average, than in 2021. (Robert Jones/CBC)

New Brunswick did add to its population in 2022 which may have affected numbers, but new arrivals were a much younger demographic than current residents, and not considered likely to add much to death totals in their first year.

And even if they did, New Brunswick's 2022 population averaged three per cent more than 2021, well below the 14.5 per cent increase in deaths. 

Housing insecurity and rough living, mental illness and addiction issues are also additional non-COVID suspects for the increase in fatalities but Furness believes most will inevitably be found to be COVID-related — and the sooner that is understood the better. 

"There's a lot of effort to attribute it to something other than COVID but without success," he said of elevated death counts all over North America.

"We kind of have a big question mark around why are we seeing more stroke and heart attack deaths and so those are the kinds of numbers I think we should be looking at."

Haley Jones agrees with that. 

Her heart problems have convinced her COVID remains a threat and she's disappointed the province isn't sounding alarms about the spike in provincial deaths as a way to warn people to be more careful.

"I think that they are doing the best they can to not tell us how many people are dying," said Jones.

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Liberals grill health minister over alleged about-face on elected health board positions

Official opposition accuses premier of 'power grab'

Rob McKee, Liberal MLA for Moncton Centre, called the bill "an attack on democracy," and questioned an apparent about-face by Fitch on the issue.

In 2008, during another major shakeup of regional health authority boards, Fitch, who was in opposition at the time, advocated for elected as well as appointed members, according to McKee.

Fitch "said that it was a good mix" to have both "because it gives a better regional representation," McKee told the legislature during question period.

"I want to know why his mind has changed so drastically today that now he wants to remove elected members from those boards?"

Under the proposed Act Respecting the Regional Health Authorities introduced Tuesday, Horizon and Vitalité's new boards of directors would each consist of up to seven members — all appointed for a three-year term, with no elected representatives.

Up until last summer, each board had 15 voting members — seven appointed and eight elected. Premier Blaine Higgs revoked the boards of both Horizon and Vitalité and appointed a single trustee for each, after a man died in a Fredericton emergency department waiting room. He also fired the Horizon CEO and replaced the minister of health at the time.

Positions 'evolve,' says health minister

In response to McKee, Fitch countered, "If we didn't review our positions and sometimes change our minds, then the opposition would say we're stuck in the mud, that we're not moving forward, that we can't get out of our own way."

"When we see a problem, when we see an issue, we're ready to change it," he said, citing as an example that referrals for blood work will again be available through the online health service eVisitNB after being dropped last month.

Man surrounded by cameras and microphones New Brunswick Health Minister Bruce Fitch told reporters the proposed changes will enable the government to be 'nimble' and 'reactive.' (Radio-Canada)

Outside the legislature, Fitch accused the Liberals of trying to score political points and suggested to reporters his 2008 comments about regional health authority boards might have been taken out of context, or even about "something else."

But he reiterated positions on issues can change over time.

"We're going with the appointed boards for the [regional health authorities] because we feel again that we need to be nimble, we need to be reactive, we need to be streamlined and making the decisions, the right decisions for health care," he told reporters.

Asked whether the proposed system will be more nimble when it includes the addition of a new health-system collaboration council, Fitch challenged the opposition's characterization of it as another layer of governance.

The council, which would include the health minister and representatives from both regional health authorities, is "formalizing some of the co-operation that's occurring now," he said.

'Power grab' by premier, alleges Liberal MLA

During resumed debate on the bill, Jacques LeBlanc, the Liberal MLA for Shediac–Beaubassin–Cap-Pelé, suggested Fitch was on thin ice in answering questions about his change in position on elected board members.

"I know that the minister is going against his vision. It's not his vision, it's the vision of the premier," he alleged.

Higgs "wants to control everything. He's on a power grab."

LeBlanc noted there have been three ministers of health since Higgs took office in 2018. "I'm convinced that they're not the ones who are really in charge of the Department of Health."

I think it's the first step towards merging those two regional health networks. And I believe that's a big mistake.
- Jacques LeBlanc, Liberal MLA for Shediac-Beaubassin-Cap-Pelé

He argued the proposed changes go against the principles of local governance reform and don't make any sense.

"I think it's the first step towards merging those two regional health networks. And I believe that's a big mistake."

The premier's office did not respond to a request for comment.

Health care belongs to citizens

Richard Losier, the Liberal MLA for Dieppe, told the legislature there are worldwide trends to have a more democratic approach to boards of directors.

"The health-care system does not belong to a minister of health, a premier, a trustee, a CEO," he said. "It belongs to the citizens" who pay taxes and should have a say over governance.

Losier noted health care represents more than 30 per cent of the global budget and affects everybody, from birth to death.

"Why is the government afraid of those elected officials?"

 
 
 
19 Comments



David Amos
Fitch and his minions should answer their emails 


Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
From you? Why? 


David Amos
Reply to Harvey York
Ask his EA 


Harvey York
Reply to David Amos
Nah, I know why they don't answer 


David Amos

Reply to Harvey York
Cops with no names always brag that they know everything 
 
 
 
 
Rosco holt
Higgs is changing the board for a bunch a yes-men. So he can proceed to destroy public healthcare. 


David Amos
Reply to Rosco holt 
Apparently so  
 
 
Ronald Miller
Reply to Rosco holt 
News flash: public healthcare was destroyed long before Higgs came along.  
 
 
Rosco holt
Reply to Ronald Miller
News flash Higgs is finishing the job and accelerating it's destruction, putting his private sector friends in place. 
 

 
Dave white  
Mr. LeBlanc really laid out the situation very well and I agree with him. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply toDave white 
Of course you would but its was Fitch who made certain that I finally I got a Health Care Card. 
 
 

Automatic reply: Hey Higgy while you were meeting with the boyz a lady working for Dr. France.Desrosiers called me with private number in order to laugh and play dumb about my Health Care concerns EH?

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Hey Higgy while you were meeting with the boyz a lady working for Dr. France.Desrosiers called me with private number in order to laugh and play dumb about my Health Care concerns EH?





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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 00:04:16 -0300
Subject: Hey Higgy while you were meeting with the boyz a lady working
for Dr. France.Desrosiers called me with private number in order to
laugh and play dumb about my Health Care concerns EH?
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premier <premier@gov.pe.ca>, PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>,
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<Mike.Comeau@gnb.ca>, mcu@justice.gc.ca, "Mark.Blakely"
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/atlantic-premiers-discuss-collaboration-1.6392416


Health-care collaboration on the table as Atlantic premiers finally
get in-person meeting

Premiers discuss key issues, say they won't pursue permanent daylight
saving time unless other regions do

Mia Urquhart · CBC News · Posted: Mar 21, 2022 6:07 PM AT


Pictured at the Council of Atlantic Premiers meeting in Halifax, from
left: Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston, New Brunswick Premier Blaine
Higgs, Prince Edward Island Premier Dennis King and Newfoundland and
Labrador Premier Andrew Furey. (Government of Nova Scotia)

The four Atlantic premiers held their first in-person meeting since
before the pandemic on Monday, where they discussed a regional
approach to health care and other key regional issues.

At the meeting, held in Halifax and chaired by Nova Scotia Premier Tim
Houston, the premiers talked about a unified effort to recruit and
retain health-care professionals and using potential "excesses" to
assist patients in neighbouring provinces.

New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs said the four provinces are not in
competition with each other and will be working together to attract
health-care workers to the region.

Higgs also said they discussed how provinces can share existing
resources. For example, if one area has an "excess" of some service,
it could be used by patients from other provinces.

"If we have excess capability and we can utilize that, let's not get
hung up on where it is," Higgs said at a wrap-up briefing with the
media following the Council of Atlantic Premiers meeting.

He said the patient's home province would pay for the service, but the
patient would have to travel to where the service is being offered.
Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston hosted the first in-person meeting of
the Atlantic premiers since before the pandemic. (Robert Short/CBC)

Houston said all four Atlantic provinces are experiencing similar
challenges when it comes to health care.

"It's safe to say that health care remains top of mind for each of our
provinces and our populations. The shortage of health-care workers is
not exclusive to Atlantic Canada, certainly not exclusive to Nova
Scotia. It's felt everywhere."

Making it easier for health-care workers to travel between provinces
is part of the solution, he said.

Currently, licensing criteria and fees structures are unique to each
province and complicate mobility between provinces.

Making it easier for health-care workers to travel between provinces
means they could "move around and help each other out," Houston said.

"We are one region and there's lots of family ties between them," he
said. "And so those are the opportunities that I'm looking forward
to."

Houston said there was a "high degree of interest in harmonizing that stuff."
Newfoundland Premier Andrew Furey said the ultimate goal would be for
one licensing system for health-care professionals like doctors.
(Government of Newfoundland and Labrador)

Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Andrew Furey said "one of the
lessons learned from COVID … [is] that health-care mobility is
important."

Furey, who has worked as a doctor around the world, said Canada is
fortunate to have "a robust licensing system that could be applied
blanket-statement to the whole country."

"We are very well trained in Canada," he said. "Once you're licensed
in any jurisdiction, there's no reason to think that you shouldn't be
able to practice medicine somewhere else."

Furey said the "exact model and instrument" still has to be
determined, but that a single entity controlling the licensing of
health-care professionals would be the goal.

Health care was just one of the issues on the agenda. They also
discussed a regional approach to economic recovery, cost of living,
immigration and energy.
Daylight saving time

The premiers also talked about the movement in other areas to
establish daylight saving time year-round.

Prince Edward Island Premier Dennis King said islanders support the
idea of getting rid of the twice-yearly time change — as long as
they're not the only ones doing it.

In the United States, one of the two chambers of Congress passed a
bill that would make daylight time permanent instead of the current
March-through-November schedule.

The U.S. Senate passed the bill last week with support from both
parties. If it becomes law, it would mean an extra hour of daylight in
the evenings year-round.

In Canada, Ontario has a law passed and ready to be implemented if New
York and Quebec do the same.

"I think if that were to happen, we would have to react collectively
here in some way, shape or form," King said on Monday.

"Essentially, we've all sort of decided that this doesn't make sense
for one of us to do this. If we are to proceed with something, it
would be … on a regional basis in response to what might be done in
other places."

Higgs said there's also interest in New Brunswick in eliminating the
twice-yearly time change.

But until other regions make a move, Higgs said, the Atlantic
provinces won't pursue it.
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Mia Urquhart is a CBC reporter based in Saint John. She can be reached
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-vitalite-hospitals-red-alert-restrictions-health-care-workers-deficit-1.6387221

COVID-19 is 'not over in hospitals,' head of Vitalité tells board
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month, notes $24M operating deficit
Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon · CBC News · Posted: Mar 16, 2022 7:11 PM AT |
Last Updated: March 16
Dr. France Desrosiers, president and chief executive officer of
Vitalité Health Network, said services are gradually resuming.
(Government of New Brunswick/YouTube)

COVID-19 is "not over in hospitals," says the president and CEO of the
Vitalité Health Network.

Dr. France Desrosiers made the comments during an update to the board
of directors Tuesday.

New Brunswick lifted all of its COVID-19 restrictions Monday, but
Vitalité remains at the red alert level due to the number of
hospitalizations and absent health-care workers, Desrosiers said
during the public meeting.

"The number of hospitalizations has remained stable I would say over
the last month. The number of absenteeism is also stable, but it is
still present.

"So as soon as we are able to resume service, we resume it. Sometimes,
we have to revise downwards and we go back up as soon as possible
again."

As of Saturday, the most recent figures available, there were 99
people with COVID-19 hospitalized across both the Vitalité and Horizon
health networks, down from 103 on Friday, including three people aged
19 or under.

Thirteen people required intensive care, down from 14, and seven of
them were on ventilators, unchanged.

Of those in hospital, 46 were admitted for COVID-19, and 53 were
initially admitted for something else when they tested positive for
the virus. Of the 13 in an ICU, 11 are "for COVID" patients.

The seven-day average of COVID-related hospitalizations increased to
98 Saturday, from 96, while the seven-day average of COVID-related ICU
bed occupancies was 13, up from 12.
As of Saturday, 154 Vitalité health-care workers were off isolating
after testing positive for COVID-19. (Evan Mitsui/CBC)

There were 513 health-care workers off Saturday after testing positive
for COVID-19, down from 577. That includes 154 from Vitalité, 300 from
Horizon and 59 from Extra-Mural and Ambulance New Brunswick.

As of last Thursday, another 76 Vitalité health-care workers were
isolating because they had been a close contact of a positive case.

Hospital capacity provincewide was listed at 90 per cent, up from 89
per cent on Friday, while ICU occupancy decreased to 71 per cent, from
77 per cent.

Vitalité and Horizon both announced last week that their hospitals and
health-care facilities would remain at the red level, despite the
province lifting all mandatory measures in the community.

Vitalité is adjusting on a daily basis and services are gradually
resuming, said Desrosiers.
Pandemic-related costs for 2021-22 reach $26M

But she noted the regional health authority recorded an operating
deficit of $24 million for the first nine months of the fiscal year,
largely due to additional expenses related to the pandemic.

Desrosiers highlighted the challenges faced by human resources.

"The network took into account that a significant number of
health-care workers had to be taken off the job due to the virus at
one time or another. The quick and efficient redeployment of resources
has made it possible to provide essential services and to cope with
the rapid increase in the number of hospitalized patients with
COVID-19," she said.

Pandemic-related costs between April 1 and Dec. 31, 2021, totalled
$26.2 million, the board heard.

"Through careful and responsible management of the pandemic's fifth
wave, we have emerged from this crisis with the sense that we did what
needed to be done," Desrosiers said in a statement.

    Department of Education clarifies Russell's comments about
absenteeism triggering school closures

    New Brunswick devises confusing way to measure vaccine protection

Blood test and radiography services are almost completely restored,
with some backlog to be cleared up.

Surgical services vary "from 75 to 80 per cent" of normal capacity,
depending on the location, said Desrosiers.

"Sometimes there are areas that are 100 per cent, others are 50 per
cent. It really varies on a daily basis," she said.

The province has passed the peak of the Omicron variant, according to
Dr. Jennifer Russell, the province's chief medical officer of health.

"Yes, we do have a continued level of hospitalizations, but we're
managing," she told CBC on Monday.

With the lifting of restrictions, some increases in hospitalizations
and cases are expected, said Russell.

But they won't be overwhelming, she said, citing modelling, which has
not been made public.

With files from Radio-Canada
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 13:19:03 -0400
Subject: Obviously Mayor Normand Pelletier is still complaining while
everyone ignores my personal concerns about Health Care EH Minister
Shephard and Kris Austin?
To: Dr.France.Desrosiers@vitalitenb.ca, Roger.Brown@fredericton.ca,
David.Coon@gnb.ca, "Roger.L.Melanson"<roger.l.melanson@gnb.ca>,
kris.austin@gnb.ca, Christian.R.Whalen@gnb.ca, Norman.Bosse@gnb.ca,
advocate-defenseur@gnb.ca, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, "Mike.Comeau"
<Mike.Comeau@gnb.ca>, mcu@justice.gc.ca, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Ross.Wetmore"<Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>,
"robert.mckee"<robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin"
<robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, viltide@nb.sympatico.ca, Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca,
denis.landry2@gnb.ca, andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca,
info@campbellton.org, normand.pelletier@dalhousie.ca,
lebrun@nb.aibn.com, Alysha.Elliott@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca,
megan.mitton@gnb.ca, michelle.conroy@gnb.ca, bruce.fitch@gnb.ca,
mike.holland@gnb.ca, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch@gmail.com,
alexandre.silberman@cbc.ca
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca,
monica@actuslaw.com, rene@actuslaw.com, Jacques.Duclos@vitalitenb.ca,
Thomas.Lizotte@vitalitenb.ca

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Austin, Kris (LEG)"<Kris.Austin@gnb.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:30:32 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: YO Kevin Arseneau before I go to the
hospital again called your cell and left a message Correct?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for your email.

Please be assured that all emails and letters are read carefully.

Should your issue be Constituency related, please contact Janet at my
constituency office at janet.johnston@gnb.ca or by calling 444-4530 or
440-9542.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 11:39:16 -0300
Subject: Methinks Mr Higgs 'can't sit idly by' while my mental health
issues are addressed in public forums N'esy Pas Kris Austin?
To: Client.Advocate@gnb.ca, "jennifer.russell"
<jennifer.russell@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"<Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>,
"Mark.Blakely"<Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Gilles.Blinn"
<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "hugh.flemming"<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
"john.green"<john.green@gnb.ca>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, mcu
<mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "barbara.massey"<barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>,
"carl.urquhart"<carl.urquhart@gnb.ca>, "Kevin.Vickers"
<Kevin.Vickers@gnb.ca>, "Kevin.leahy"<Kevin.leahy@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"David.Coon"<David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "kris.austin"<kris.austin@gnb.ca>,
"blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, premier <premier@gnb.ca>,
premier <premier@ontario.ca>, PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, pm
<pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Nathalie.Drouin"<Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca
>,
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<Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Paul.Shuttle"
<Paul.Shuttle@pco-bcp.gc.ca>, "Ian.Shugart"
<Ian.Shugart@pco-bcp.gc.ca>, "Katie.Telford"
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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others

Methinks Mr Higgs 'can't sit idly by' while my mental health issues
are addressed in public forums N'esy Pas?


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/09/province-cant-sit-idly-by-during-mental.html


#cdnpoli #nbpoli

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/blaine-higgs-mental-health-1.5296371


 Province 'can't sit idly by' during mental health crisis, Higgs says


66 comments


David Raymond Amos
I wonder if Kris Austin is reading this




David Raymond Amos
Methinks Mr Higgs 'can't sit idly by' while my mental health issues
are addressed in public forums N'esy Pas?









David Raymond Amos
Methinks its strange that the conservatives take a sudden interest in
mental health 11 long years after they had me falsely imprisoned in
the looney bin N'esy Pas?



Lewis Taylor
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
not falsely



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: That is libel




David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Perhaps you should have your lawyer talk
to Dr Banic and the RCMP because I will be mentioning you within my
next lawsuit



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Are you related to the Federal Minister of Health?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: She used to work with the RCMP correct?


Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Now you talk to yourself!



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Better yet are you a cop?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you know as well as I why i
am posting my questions in this fashion to your new Light of Love
N'esy Pas?




Lewis Taylor
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
wrong again


Lewis Taylor
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
methinks you were released too soon! n'esy pas?


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Ask your lawyer why I am recording and
emailing your libel to your friends in the RCMP














Terry Tibbs
A plan, a plan, do you believe?
Is it me? Am I the only one hearing generalities, but no specifics?
We have to note, just the other day, both Scheer and Trudeau promised
big bucks in transfers for health care. So would it be prudent to
assume "business as usual" in the health care file until the money
fairy stops by? If the money fairy stops by?
We must remember too, you need a referral from a GP (typically your
family doctor) to see a mental health professional. So maybe the first
order of business would be addressing the shortage of GPs?
Whatever rabbit Mr Higgs pulls out of his hat, rebuilding a very
broken system will take time and money.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Its all just talk Higgs and his cohorts have
yet to provide me with a Health Care Card However 11 years ago the
liberals had no problem whatsoever squandering precious health care
resources by falsely imprisoning a political opponent in a mental ward
for the benefit of the conservative buddies Greg Thompson and Carl
Urquhart. Methinks the truly funny part of it all is that the shrinks
never got paid for their malicious services and now they try hard to
pretend it never happened and don't know who I am even though they
know I have the RCMP's documents with the doctor's signature N'esy
Pas?




Lewis Taylor
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
things are really messed up in your alternative universe. If you were
placed in a mental facility then it was most certainly for just cause.
This is not done randomly. Furthermore, the physicians who attempted
to treat you were certainly paid by Medicare and if you think doctors
remember every single patient and document they may have signed while
on call or otherwise then i would suggest that you treatment was
unsuccessful.



David Raymond Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Dream on trust that Carl Urquhart and seven
car loads of cops tried the same trick again on election night 201 and
it backfired bigtime on them that time.Methinks you should checkout
YouTube sometime before you call me a liar N'esy Pas?



Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Lewis Taylor:
ANY "credible" professional keeps, besides computer records, a
handwritten daily log.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I know I do Higgs and his cohort want to forget
that the RCMP used to pay me for my opinions Furthermore anyone can
Google me to see the reply to Taylor that was blocked



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Much to Taylor's chagrin I have the signed
document by the shrinks and the cops



Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Terry Tibbs:
agreed but then again why would they allow themselves to be harassed
by Amos the same way we are on this site? The probably told him they
don't remember to get rid of him. I wish we could do the same!



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Methinks that is more libel because I have
NEVER harassed ANYONE Hence you have no proof of it. However I do have
proof of my false arrest in writing signed by a doctor employed by the
government of New Brunswick and video of a member of the RCMP
admitting to his assault on me in the DECH. More importantly we have
your published comments today so that brings the matter up to date
N'esy Pas?

















Jebidoah Shylah
Marijuana is only going to make it worse. If we can't ban this
dangerous drug, can we at least rename it 'Marijuana NB' instead of
Cannabis NB. Why sanitize this seedy habit.



Mike Connors
Reply to @Jebidoah Shylah: You have got to be kidding. Cannabis is the
only thing keeping some soldiers alive that are suffering from PTSD
because we sent them to foreign countries to be shot at and see body
parts all over the place. We have seen the tragic results when this
has been taken away from them, so please educate yourself BEFORE you
speak next time.



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Mike Connors: what about recreational marihuana?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Who cares how much dope you SANB dudes smoke?



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: you are quite calm tonight! Are you on valiums?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: You can't argue so you insult and yet
you think you are clever. Methinks you are well aware that i have no
respect for the druggies and pill pushers who seem to be your
favourite people N'esy Pas?



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: whereas you are so respectful to all!



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks I keep far better records
that you N'esy Pas?




Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: in your "biased" opinion!



Greg Smith
Reply to @Jebidoah Shylah: Great idea “Jebidoah”. While we’re at it,
let’s rebrand “NBLiquor” to “Ethanol NB”, and every gas station that
sells cigarettes as “Nicotine NB”, since neither of those make sense
either and follow your ridiculous model.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should pull my old files
from the dockets of many courts on both sides of the medicine line and
look for some new ones too. Trust that you are about to be mentioned
in at least one lawsuit and you all knowing SANB dudes are well aware
of the many reasons why N'esy Pas?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Greg Smith: True



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks after all your malicious
nonsene last night the cat must have your tongue today N'esy Pas?











Marguerite Deschamps
As if the elusive Higgs boson cares.



Ian Scott
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Is that what you got from this? Maybe
move the idiotic mental health center in Campbelton to where it can be
operated properly instead of usual Liberal politics of the MLA's in
north.He at lest has acknowledged the problem more than any one in
last 4 years.And homeless issue blends right in.



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Ian Scott: Ever since and before Confederation, all the
wealth has been transferred down south. It's about time that the north
gets its fair share. The comedian turned deputy Premier is not too
talkative since he won his Northeast riding. They gave him the title
just to mute him. He has always been droll, but not in the sense of
comical.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Why should the ringmaster at the
circus care what a clueless SANB dude thinks about anything
particularly in light of the fact that you still won'r admit that your
light of love Lou is a lady no matter how many times I tell you N'esy
Pas?
















Doug James
The policies of this province help cause mental illness. And now it is
telling us it is going to help solve the problem? Just look at the
overall healthcare system that is focused on treatment rather than
prevention and you'll understand just how impossible that will be.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Doug James: Cry me a river

















Donald Smith
Wow Mr. Higgs, province needs to focus more on mental health care, yet
another Media source has a front page news story today, Province Needs
More Psychiatrists Doctor says. If so, why don't we have them, its
either we Can't Afford Them, or we don't want to hire them, am I
seeing this wrong ??



Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Donald Smith:
Recrutement is a farce in NB...there are no billing numbers available
where they are needed. Simple fix but politicians pay lip service and
do nothing.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Yea right you should know




Lewis Taylor
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
obviously



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: The real question is who is your lawyer and
does he or she know of your malice towards me?

















June Arnott
They will cut other services to help with the overdue Mental
Healthcare. It is so sad that they made cuts to MH decades ago. But
hey, at least the politicians still get their perks and raises!!



Terry Tibbs
Reply to @June Arnott:
Hard to say. Both major applicants for the top federal job have
promised a visit from the health care money fairy if elected. So it
might be prudent to think that is the source of all the new found
health care spending that Mr Higgs is promising. I suspect we shall
have to wait and see...........
There is going to be a bit of a jackpot if regional government comes
to pass, though I suspect that payday has been spoken for elsewhere.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: FYI I have yet to get my Health Care card



Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Raymond Amos:
If you are like me you don't need one because you don't get sick.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I don't go to see the sawbones until I heard
the Grim Reaper knocking at my door. Whereas I have no Medicare Card I
paid a doctor to have look at me and he sent me straight to the
emergency room I have there twice this month and have been scheduled
for a raft of test for my old ticker. Heath Care card or not I am
entitled to the same service every other Canadian Citizen receives.
Now that I am a running for a seat in Parliament again methinks you
can bet dimes to dollars that I will be raising a lot of hell about
this N'esy Pas?
















Jebidoah Shylah
Indeed those suffering from mental health problems need more help so
they can become productive members of society. If someone has a broken
leg, we don't write them off for life, we fix the leg. Why do people
not understand that mental health is the same as any part of the body,
fixable. When placed under immense stress and strain, it too can break
and because it's the hard rive of the body, it's essential we have the
best treatment for it. We also need to ban marijuana and make sure New
Brunswick is a drug free zone so that fewer people end up with mental
health issues that marijuana and other drugs are known to cause, and
so that more money is then available for those who have mental health
issues not self inflicted by drugs. It's an outrage that we are
subsidizing fancy stores for marijuana drug users while mental health
service suffers.



Chantal LeBouthi
Reply to @Jebidoah Shylah:
Opioids is doing more damage and usually prescribe by doctors



Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi:
yes to patients who shop around faking symptoms until some overworked
doc succumbs to the act and caves in. People need to accept
responsibility for their addictions and stop blaming everyone!



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: it's the fault of both the doctors and the
patients in a lot of cases.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you found another Lou to love
After all you have something in common and that is you both despise me
and I am honoured that you do N'esy Pas?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Oh So True



Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: sorry to burst your bubble, but I do not
despise yu.



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Oh my my how quick you wish to forget
that you bragged of earlier today N'esy Pas?



Lewis Taylor
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
if the doctors are at fault then either they should be sued or have
their licenses revoked...why does this not happen? Heresay does not
equal guilt...if so then Amos would be right.



David Raymond Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Methinks you are not clever enough to know
when to clam up N'esy Pas?



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Lewis Taylor: Methinks your lawyer should pull Federal Court
File no T-1557-15 in Fat Fred City ASAP N'esy Pas?



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/dalhousie-s-walk-in-clinic-remains-closed-without-definitive-reopening-date-1.6372008

Dalhousie's walk-in clinic remains closed without definitive reopening date

Region's only walk-in clinic has been closed for over a month
Alexandre Silberman · CBC News · Posted: Mar 04, 2022 7:00 AM AT

The St. Joseph Community Health Centre in Dalhousie, N.B. was once a
hospital with 100 beds. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

The Restigouche region's only walk-in clinic will not reopen this week
as expected.

The clinic at the St. Joseph Community Health Centre in Dalhousie
closed its doors at the end of January in response to a staffing
shortage. At the time, the Vitalité Health Network said the temporary
closure would only last a month.

But this week, it remained closed with no clear timeline on if or when
the clinic will start taking patients again.

Dalhousie Mayor Normand Pelletier said residents without a primary
care provider or facing long waits for an appointment don't know where
to turn to.

"They're extremely disappointed, they're scared," he said. "They don't
know where they're going to go for medical help in Restigouche County
anymore."

    Dalhousie residents demand improved doctor recruitment after
clinic temporarily closes

Residents held a protest last month calling on the health authority to
improve recruitment of health care providers. At the time of the
clinic's closure, only two out of six physician positions were filled
– with one doctor on leave.

The Vitalité Health Network has not announced a new reopening date.
Dalhousie Mayor Normand Pelletier said residents are worried about the
temporary closure of the walk-in clinic at the St. Joseph Community
Health Centre. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

Spokesperson Thomas Lizotte said all other services at the community
health centre, including a collaborative practice and ambulatory
services, remain available to patients.

"Discussions are still ongoing with the Department of Health to ensure
strategic alignment with the new Health Plan," Thomas wrote in an
email.

There are 4,200 patients with a regular primary care provider at the
collaborative practice.

In an interview last month, Jacques Duclos, vice-president of
community services and mental health, said family physicians found the
workload of the walk-in clinic "unsustainable" because it took away
from the collaborative practice.

He said discussions are focused on rethinking the primary care model,
spurred by the province's new health plan and improvements to virtual
care.

WATCH / Closure of only walk-in clinic has aging community worried
Dalhousie's only walk-in clinic closes amid 'major crisis' in staffing
15 days ago
Duration 3:03
Residents are calling on the Vitalité Health Network to improve
recruitment of doctors and nurses for the Restigouche region. 3:03

Restigouche County has one of the province's oldest populations and is
facing a significant shortage of 13 primary care providers. Without
the clinic, residents have been waiting at the emergency room at the
Campbellton Regional Hospital, or driving an hour south to Bathurst.

Pelletier said town council and the regional service commission have
heard no updates on recruitment since the demonstration. Now, he's
requesting a meeting with Health Minister Dorothy Shepard to ask for
increased control locally.

"Probably we'd be better served under Horizon," he said.

During the pandemic, the clinic had shifted to an appointment-only
model. Patients could no longer just show up and instead needed to
call in to get a spot.
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Alexandre Silberman

Video Journalist

Alexandre Silberman is a video journalist with CBC New Brunswick based
in Moncton. He has previously worked at CBC Fredericton, Power &
Politics, and Marketplace. You can reach him by email at:
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 13:23:02 -0400
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To: monica@actuslaw.com, rene@actuslaw.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca

https://www.vitalitenb.ca/en/network/board-directors/members-board-directors

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Ms. Barley has been a lawyer for over 15 years. She now handles
defence and litigation proceedings in the fields of inheritance law,
contractual law, employment law and administrative law.

Her professional experience also enabled her to serve, as Chair and as
member, on various boards of directors, such as those of 3 plus
Economic Development Corporation, the Crossroads for Women Inc. as
well as the Centre de pédiatrie sociale Sud-Est Inc.


https://actuslaw.ca/monicas-bio

MONICA L. BARLEY – Partner

Monica L. Barley obtained a Bachelor of Science in physics and
mathematics from the Université de Moncton before entering the Faculty
of Law to pursue her lifelong dream of becoming a lawyer.

After being called to the bar in 2002, Monica became an associate
lawyer at Forbes Roth Basque and went on to be a federal crown
prosecutor.  In 2010, Monica began her career at Actus Law Droit,
where she became partner in 2012.

In her practice, she focuses on dispute resolution, which includes
will and estates disputes, employment law, contract law,
administrative law and criminal law. In March 2014, Monica was
appointed Chair of The Financial and Consumer Services Tribunal. The
Tribunal is an independent adjudicative body, which holds hearings and
appeals under New Brunswick financial and consumer services
legislation.

A strong believer in giving back, Monica has held several volunteer
roles. She is a past board member of Alternative Residences Inc., a
non-profit organization that strives to provide and assist individuals
living with a mental illness in finding housing; former President of
Crossroads for Women Inc., a shelter for women and children victims of
family violence; former Vice-President of Downtown Moncton
Centre-ville Inc.; and a former board member of 3 plus Economic
Development Corporation. She was chair of the Elder Law Section of the
New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian Bar Association and is now
President of Social Pediatric Center of Southeast New Brunswick.

A self-described golf addict, Monica and her husband Kolin live in Moncton.

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Actus Law Droit
Partner
900 Main St.
Moncton, New Brunswick E1C 1G4
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Email: monica@actuslaw.com

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Actus Law Droit
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Moncton, New Brunswick E1C 1G4
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https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1799963/ngola-blaine-higgs-coronavirus-nouveau-brunswick-defi-informations?cid=rg_il-reg_txt_inf_infolettre-matinale_acadie-2021-06-09_0

Loin de s'excuser, le premier ministre Higgs met au défi le Dr Ngola
Le Téléjournal Atlantique
Blaine Higgs met au défi le Dr Ngola
Montage de deux photos du docteur Ngola et du premier ministre Higgs.

Le docteur Jean-Robert Ngola, médecin (à gauche) et Blaine Higgs,
premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick (à droite).

Photo : Mia Sheldon (CBC) et Andrew Vaughan (La Presse canadienne)

Radio-Canada
2021-06-08 | Mis à jour aujourd’hui à 12 h 59

Le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick Blaine Higgs a publiquement
mis au défi le Dr Jean-Robert Ngola en lui demandant de l'autoriser à
révéler des informations privées potentiellement incriminantes. Un
geste qui n’est pas passé inaperçu par l’opposition, mardi.

Le Dr Ngola faisait face, jusqu'à tout récemment, à des accusations
pour avoir enfreint la loi sur les mesures d’urgence durant la
pandémie. Ces accusations ont été abandonnées vendredi.

Blaine Higgs, qui refuse toujours de s’excuser, dit maintenant détenir
des informations possiblement compromettantes, mais qu’il ne peut
divulguer en vertu de la Loi sur la protection de la vie privée.

"J’ai de l’information qui n’a jamais été révélée publiquement",
a-t-il lancé mardi.
À lire aussi :

    Ajournement des procédures pour le Dr Ngola au Nouveau-Brunswick
    Le Dr Jean-Robert Ngola est-il réellement le patient zéro?

Blaine Higgs demande au Dr Ngola de promettre de ne pas le poursuivre
pour violation de la vie privée, ce qui lui permettrait de dévoiler
l’information demeurée secrète jusqu’ici.
Une attaque envers un citoyen racialisé, selon les avocats

L'équipe de défense du Dr Ngola a vivement dénoncé les propos de
Blaine Higgs. Elle se demande à quelles informations il fait
référence.

"Si M. Higgs a d’autres preuves, rien ne l'empêche de nous les envoyer
à nous, les avocats du Dr Jean-Robert Ngola. De cette façon, Dr Ngola
n’aura pas à renoncer à son droit à la vie privée comme le demande M.
Higgs", écrivent dans une déclaration les avocats Christian Michaud et
Joël Étienne.
Un homme barbu assis dans un bureau parle à une caméra.

Christian Michaud, avocat, défend le Dr Robert Ngola. Il exige des
excuses du premier ministre envers son client.

Photo : Radio-Canada / Paul Landry

Ils rappellent que le médecin a fait l'objet de "l’enquête la plus
complète à laquelle un citoyen ait jamais été confronté dans
l'histoire du Nouveau-Brunswick" et qu'il a été entièrement disculpé
vendredi.

"Le premier ministre Higgs a utilisé son titre et son privilège
parlementaire pour attaquer un citoyen racialisé et un homme
innocent", déclarent-ils.

Les avocats ont donné sept jours au premier ministre pour s'excuser à
la suite de l'abandon des accusations. Ils envisagent des actions
supplémentaires s'ils n'en obtiennent pas d'ici la fin de la semaine.
À écouter :

    Un des avocats du Dr Ngola réagit aux propos de Blaine Higgs

Inacceptable, dit l'opposition

Les paroles du premier ministre ont été vivement dénoncées par
l’opposition à Fredericton.

Le chef du Parti vert du Nouveau-Brunswick, David Coon, a indiqué
qu’il était "inacceptable" pour le premier ministre "d’avoir un enjeu
personnellement avec un citoyen du Nouveau-Brunswick."
Le chef du Parti vert du Nouveau-Brunswick, David Coon.

Le chef du Parti vert du Nouveau-Brunswick, David Coon.

Photo : Radio-Canada

Le député libéral de Moncton-Centre, Rob Mckee, a pour sa part ajouté
qu’il était "inquiétant" que le premier ministre détienne de
l’information personnelle liée au Dr Ngola.

"Ça veut dire qu’il est en possession d’information privée que
seulement le bureau du procureur devrait avoir, en ce qui concerne la
poursuite publique contre le docteur, donc pourquoi est-ce que le
premier ministre est en possession de ces informations", a-t-il
demandé.
Rob McKee donne un point de presse

Le député libéral de Moncton Centre, Rob McKee.

Photo : CBC

"Ce n’est vraiment pas la façon dont un premier ministre devrait
agir", a ajouté Rob Mckee.

Blaine Higgs n’a pas voulu expliquer pourquoi il était en possession
d’informations personnelles concernant le Dr Ngola.

D'après le reportage de Michel Corriveau



---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 10:42:46 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE NB Mental Hospitals etc Why not ask Brad Green's
former assistant Chucky Murray and his blogging buddy Chucky Leblanc
about the document hereto attached?
To: viltide@nb.sympatico.ca, Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca,
blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca, denis.landry2@gnb.ca,
kris.austin@gnb.ca, andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca,
brian.gallant@gnb.ca, robert.mckee@gnb.ca>
Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com, Colin.McPhail@cbc.ca

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/tide-head-school-closure-policy-409-mayor-randy-hunter-1.5070564

Village mayor fights to give school on the chopping block a 2nd act
Small Tide Head School was voted to close after years of declining enrolment
Colin McPhail · CBC News · Posted: Mar 26, 2019 6:00 AM AT


Tide Head Village Office

6 Mountain St.
Tide Head, NB
Phone: (506) 789-6550
Fax: (506) 789-6553
Email: viltide@nb.sympatico.ca

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 09:07:11 -0400
Subject: RE NB Mental Hospitals etc Why not ask Brad Green's former
assistant Chucky Murray and his blogging buddy Chucky Leblanc about
the document hereto attached?
To: info@campbellton.org, normand.pelletier@dalhousie.ca
, lebrun@nb.aibn.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com, Alysha.Elliott@gnb.ca,
hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, Dr.France.Desrosiers@vitalitenb.ca

On 3/25/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/restigouche-hospital-youth-centre-ombud-report-northern-mayors-1.5066125
>
> North-south tension rises as leaders fear losing troubled youth mental
> health centre
>
> Northern mayors say moving centre out of Campbellton would be major loss
> Colin McPhail · CBC News · Posted: Mar 25, 2019 6:00 AM AT
>
> https://healthstandards.org/board-directors/george-weber/
>
> https://healthstandards.org/executive-team/
> Health Standards Organization
> 1150 Cyrville Road
> Ottawa, ON, Canada
> K1J 7S9
>
> Phone
> +1 613-738-3800
>
> Leslee J. Thompson ext 222
>
> George Weber
> Board Chair
>
> George Weber has served as President and CEO of the Royal Ottawa
> Health Care Group, one of four standalone specialized mental health
> facilities in Ontario, since 2007.
>
> Over the previous 26 years, he has been the Chief Executive Officer of
> a number of national organizations, such as the Canadian Red Cross and
> Canadian Dental Association, as well as various international
> organizations, including the International Red Cross and Red Crescent
> Societies in Geneva, Switzerland.
>
> Throughout his career, he has been involved in health and humanitarian
> work from multiple dimensions, including dental accreditation. George
> holds a Master’s degree from McGill University and has completed the
> Advanced Management Program from the Graduate School of Business
> Administration, Harvard University, the International Program for
> Board Members from the Institute of Management Development in
> Lausanne, Switzerland and the Directors course sponsored by the
> Institute of Corporate Directors and the Rotman School of Management,
> University of Toronto.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 14:30:57 -0400
> Subject: YO Mr Higgs So much for the ethics of Ombud NB too After all
> he is the same politically appointed lawyer N'esy Pas?
> To: premier@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
> robert.gauvin@gnb.ca, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca,
> andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.ca, brian.gallant@gnb.ca,
> robert.mckee@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca,
> Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca, megan.mitton@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca,
> rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca, michelle.conroy@gnb.ca,
> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, bruce.fitch@gnb.ca, mike.holland@gnb.ca, andre
> <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch@gmail.com, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, Frank.McKenna@td.com,
> Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca, Newsroom@globeandmail.com,
> premier@ontario.ca, scott.moe@gov.sk.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca,
> maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca, Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca, Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com
>
> ---------- Original  message ----------
> From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario
> <Premier@ontario.ca>
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 19:13:29 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: YO Mr Higgs So much for the ethics of your
> Acting Integrity Commissioner N'esy Pas?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly
> valued.
>
> You can be assured that all emails and letters are carefully read,
> reviewed and taken into consideration.
>
> There may be occasions when, given the issues you have raised and the
> need to address them effectively, we will forward a copy of your
> correspondence to the appropriate government official. Accordingly, a
> response may take several business days.
>
> Thanks again for your email.
> ______­­
>
> Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
> nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations.
>
> Nous tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
> considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.
>
> Dans certains cas, nous transmettrons votre message au ministère
> responsable afin que les questions soulevées puissent être traitées de
> la manière la plus efficace possible. En conséquence, plusieurs jours
> ouvrables pourraient s’écouler avant que nous puissions vous répondre.
>
> Merci encore pour votre courriel.
>
>
> ---------- Original  message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:13:26 -0400
> Subject: YO Mr Higgs So much for the ethics of your Acting Integrity
> Commissioner N'esy Pas?
> To: premier@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
> robert.gauvin@gnb.ca, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca,
> andrea.anderson-mason@gnb.cabrian.gallant@gnb.ca,
> robert.mckee@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca,
> Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca, megan.mitton@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca,
> rick.desaulniers@gnb.camichelle.conroy@gnb.ca,
> bruce.northrup@gnb.ca, bruce.fitch@gnb.c, mike.holland@gnb.ca, andre
> andre@jafaust.com, jbosnitch@gmail.com
> Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com, Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, Frank.McKenna@td.com,
> Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.ca, Newsroom@globeandmail.com,
> premier@ontario.ca, scott.moe@gov.sk.ca, andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca,
> maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca, Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca, Leanne.Fitch@fredericton.ca
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpOY5yzB9-8
>
> New Brunswick Ombudsman Charles Murray on report regarding The
> Restigouche Hostipal Centre!
> 119 views
> Charles Leblanc
> Published on Feb 8, 2019
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Murray, Charles (Ombud)"<Charles.Murray@gnb.ca>
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:16:15 +0000
> Subject: You wished to speak with me
> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com"<motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> I have the advantage, sir, of having read many of your emails over the
> years.
>
>
> As such, I do not think a phone conversation between us, and
> specifically one which you might mistakenly assume was in response to
> your threat of legal action against me, is likely to prove a
> productive use of either of our time.
>
>
> If there is some specific matter about which you wish to communicate
> with me, feel free to email me with the full details and it will be
> given due consideration.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Charles Murray
>
> Ombud NB
>
> Acting Integrity Commissioner
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 03:09:18 -0300
> Subject: So your buddy Charles Murray has my documents now N'esy Pas
> Chucky Baby?
> To: charles.murray@gnb.ca, Charles.McAllister@snb.ca, premier
> <premier@gov.ab.ca>, "hugh.flemming"<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, oldmaison
> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, sallybrooks25
> <sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca>, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, kim.macpherson@gnb.ca
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
, briangallant10
> <briangallant10@gmail.com>, execdirgen <execdirgen@nbliberal.ca>
>
> CBC
> 3 new watchdogs appointed
> Premier names child and youth advocate, official languages
> commissioner and ombudsman
> CBC News Posted: Jun 14, 2013 3:24 PM
>
>
> The new ombudsman is Charles Murray, a civil servant and former
> political assistant to one-time Tory MP Elsie Wayne and to former PC
> cabinet minister Brad Green.
>
> "I am confident that their experience and education will help them to
> carry out their respective duties effectively," said Premier David
> Alward.
>
> He said Murray's appointment is not political.
>
> YEA RIGHT DAVEY BABY
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbDs3NUo-Nk
>
> http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Evelyn Greene
> To: charles.mcallister@snb.ca ; blaine.higgs@gnb.ca ;
> kim.macpherson@gnb.ca ; david.raymond.amos@gmail.com ;
> david.alward@gnb.ca ; charles.murray@gnb.ca ; madeleine.dube@gnb.ca ;
> ken.ross@gnb.ca
> Cc: don.forestell@gnb.ca ; dhashey@coxandpalmer.com
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 6:32 PM
> Subject: RE: Ambulance New Brunswick Inc.
>
>
> Dear Mr. McAllister:  Ambulance New Brunswick Inc. is also CROWN
> CORPORATION UNDER PART III OF THE PUBLIC LABOR RELATIONS ACT, AND WHY
> WOULD NOT NOT KNOW THAT.  PLEASE ADVISE.  ALSO, MS. RENEE LAFOREST
> DOES NOT GET BACK TO ME.  DO YOU HAVE HER EMAIL.  MY FRIEND SALLY AND
> I WENT THERE TODAY AND WAS TOLD THAT SHE WAS IN A MEETING.  SO WHO
> MAKES THE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THE BOOKS AS PER THE
> PUBLIC RIGHTS AS TAXPAYERS?
>
>
> EVELYN GREENE  ALSO, THE LETTERS PATENT ARE NOT WITNESSED AS PER THE
> REGULATIONS UNDER THE COMPANY'S ACT.  COULD YOU COMMENT ABOUT THAT.
> WHY WOULD IT HAVE GONE THRU YOUR OFFICE WITHOUT PROPER ATTENTION TO
> THE LAWYER SIGNING ON BEHALF OF THE CO. THAT ALL IS IN COMPLIANCE
> WHICH IT ISN'T. LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS FOR MEDAVIE EMS AND NB EMS AND
> TELL ME IF THEY WERE WITNESSED PROPERLY?
>
> SEND THIS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, INCLUDING DAVID HASHEY'S CLIENT,
> DONALD PETERS AND CHARLES MURRAY WHO BY WAY OF THE LEGISLATION ARE IN
> CONFLICT BY BEING ON THE BOARDS.  PLEASE CONFIRM?  I WANT TO KNOW HOW
> TO ACCESS THE BOOKS OF AMBULANCE N.B. INC. WHICH IS A PUBLIC
> CORPORATION WHICH IS PARTNERED WITH ANOTHER CO. N.B. EMS WHICH IS
> PARTNERED WITH MEDAVIE EMS MAKING THEM ALL SUBSIDIARIES AND ALL
> SHAREHOLDERS OF THE SUBSIDIARIES CAN GET LOAN GUARANTEES AND OTHER
> BENEFITS BUT WHY WAS THIS DEAL NOT PUT OUT FOR A COST ANALYSIS AND
> BIDDING AS PER THE RULES?
>
> ------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
> From: Charles.McAllister@snb.ca
> To: evelyngreene@live.ca
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 20:49:31 -0400
> Subject: Ambulance New Brunswick Inc.
>
>
> This is further to our discussion today.
>
>
>
> As indicated, this company is incorporated and subject to the
> Companies Act. You can access the Act at the following link:
>
> http://laws.gnb.ca/en/BrowseTitle
>
>
>
> The company’s head office location is as follows: Department  of
> Health, 520  King Street, Fredericton. You had asked me exactly where
> at 520 King Street is the head office. An ANB official indicates it is
> at the fourth floor of 520 King Street –which is occupied as well by
> offices of the Dept of Health.
>
>
>
> You indicated you wish to attend and examined certain records of ANB.
> I have provided you with a contact name: Renee LaForest (phone number
> 453-3759). It is our understanding she is the secretary-treasurer of
> ANB.
>
>
>
> I have indicated under the Companies Act, the relevant provisions
> regarding access is as follows:
>
>
>
> BOOKS OF THE COMPANY
>
> 104The company shall cause books to be kept by the secretary, or by
> some other officer or agent specially charged with that duty, wherein
> shall be kept recorded
>
> (a)a copy of the letters patent incorporating the company, and any
> supplementary letters patent, and of all by-laws of the company;
>
> (b)the names alphabetically arranged of all persons who are or have
> been shareholders;
>
> (c)the address and calling of every such person while a shareholder,
> as far as can be ascertained;
>
> (d)the number of shares of stock held by each shareholder;
>
> (e)the amounts paid in and remaining unpaid respectively on the stock
> of each shareholder;
>
> (f)all transfers of stocks, with the date and other particulars of the
> transfer, and the date of the entry thereof;
>
> (g)the names, addresses and callings of all persons who are or have
> been directors of the company, with the several dates at which each
> became or ceased to be a director;
>
> (h)minutes of all meetings of shareholders, directors and executive
> committee.
>
> R.S., c.33, s.103.
>
> 105(1)A book called the register of transfers shall be provided, and
> in the book shall be entered the particulars of every transfer of
> shares in the capital of the company.
>
> 105(2)One or more branch registers of transfers may be kept at places
> appointed by the directors.
>
> 105(3)Every transfer made at a branch registry shall be forthwith
> reported to the head office of the company.
>
> R.S., c.33, s.104.
>
> 106(1)Such books, with the exception of the minute books of the
> directors and executive committee, shall, during reasonable business
> hours of every day except Sundays and holidays, be kept open at the
> head office of the company or at such place as may be authorized under
> subsection (2) or (3) of this section, for the inspection of
> shareholders and creditors of the company and their personal
> representatives, and of any judgment creditor of a shareholder.
>
> 106(2)The Lieutenant-Governor in Council upon cause being shown to him
> may by order designate some other office of the company in the
> Province as the place where its books may be kept for the purposes of
> subsection (1).
>
> 106(3)Where an agent with an established place of business in the
> Province is appointed by the company for the purpose of recording the
> transfer of its shares, the book, in which are recorded the
> particulars mentioned in paragraphs 104(b), (c), (d), (e) and (f), may
> be kept at the agent’s place of business in the Province where the
> register of transfers is kept.
>
> 106(4)Every such shareholder, creditor or personal representative or
> judgment creditor may make extracts therefrom.
>
>
>
> The definition section of the Act states as follows:
>
> “shareholder” means every subscriber to, or holder of, stock in the
> company, and includes every member of a company without share capital
> and the personal representatives of the shareholder;
>
>
>
> As discussed with you, you do not seem to fall within the scope of
> section 106(1) to entitle you to see the records of ANB that are
> mentioned in section 104 of the Act.
>
>
>
> You have expressed the view you are entitled to see the above records
> and perhaps other records, notwithstanding that you do not fall
> presently within s 106(1). To what extent you have other legal rights
> to see the above records (or other records), you will need to pursue
> that viewpoint with ANB, not with myself.
>
>
>
> Charles McAllister
>
> Director- Companies Act
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Evelyn Greene
> To: ndesrosiers@ccla.org ; david.raymond.amos@gmail.com ;
> lucie.dubois@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ; bob.paulson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca ;
> sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca ; hubert.lacroix@cbc.ca ; andy.campbell@ctv.ca
> ; steve.murphy@ctv.ca ; w5@ctv.ca ; russomanno@wsgalaw.com ;
> kim.macpherson@gnb.ca ; heather.webb@gnb.ca ; david.alward@gnb.ca ;
> marie.claudeblais@gnb.ca ; madeleine.dube@gnb.ca ;
> charles.murray@gnb.ca
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:53 PM
> Subject: FW: Disclosure still outstanding
>
>
> I am sending this to you folks as a beginning of some information you
> need to know.  On May 13, 2011, the day I was beaten up by police at
> Ambulance New Brunswick on 24 Harold Doherty Dr., in Fredericton, I
> had originally agreed to meet with Charles LeBlanc for the first at
> the front of the Legislature.  I had spoken with my MLA Brian
> MacDonald on the 12th and I made him aware that I was doing the
> interview due to him and others not looking into the corruption.
>
> On May 13, 2011, I later learned that Premier David Alward and Health
> Minister Madeleine Dube had gone to Moncton or St. John and I believe
> it was to open an ambulance or to do with something about a new part
> of the hospital.  I sort of flagged this in mind because I thought
> this is convenient that they are both out of town when I got beaten.
>
> I had arranged a few days earlier to meet Charles LeBlanc however,
> that morning I wrote him an email and cancelled saying I was not well
> which was true as is in the police records when they charged me.
> However, the timeline to deliver the Right to Information was up that
> day and in the afternoon I forced myself to go downtown and serve
> them.  I first went to Cox and Palmer Law Firm, then to the Court
> House to see Craig Carleton and then to the N.B. Police Commission and
> secretary/receptionist Julie Williams accepted the documents.
>
> Then I went to Ambulance N.B. where they seemingly were expecting me.
> I felt then as I do today that they were call by someone and were
> expecting me.
>
> 1. On the day of that Friday, May 13, 2011, I had an email from
> Charles LeBlanc saying all of a sudden his blog was shut down.
> However, as I reported at the time, I smelled a rat and I told Mr.
> LeBlanc this and later after that day I asked to do an interview in
> front of the Justice Bld. and Charles LeBlanc refused, saying he was
> interviewing Mayor Woodside at City Hall.  Then there was this big ten
> minute or more interview on Charles' blog with the Mayor and the Mayor
> was saying things like, "When I pick you up in the winter and give you
> a drive ........ (this was to Charles).  I smelled a rat then as I do
> not and I sent Charles a letter and copied all government heads saying
> he would make the perfect stooge for the mayor and others.
>
> Look at the next few emails, please.
>
> It was Sally Brooks who wanted me to meet with her and Charles LeBlanc
> at the coffee shop last week and I told Sally I did not trust him.
> She said he has ADHD and is harmless and that when he was in court he
> could hardly talk.  I told her that this did not compute in my mind,
> because he can stand in front of the police station on another day and
> blurt the hell out of himself yelling things at the police and writing
> all this stuff on the blog.  Sally said just come and see.  That
> morning, Charles LeBlanc could hardly look me in the fact and I told
> Sally that and she said she noticed but she felt it was nothing.  In
> fact, I gave him $10 for coffee and he took our picture and put it on
> the blog.  Howevr, he wanted to only put things on the blog which was
> really Sally and My blog but he wanted to control what went in and
> out.  For ex. he did not want to print anything about the letter I
> wrote the Police Commission and I copied other people, including David
> Amos who to this date, I have not yet met.  However, David does speak
> the truth to my mind.  He may be blunt, but he says it like it is.  I
> told Sally I thought Charles and David were friends behind closed
> doors, but I have now changed that idea.  For ex. at no time did
> Charles LeBlanc ever tell me about Andre Murray's plight with the same
> police officer who beat me, Cst. Nancy Rideout nor did he mention any
> of the facts, but knew my story.  I just recently learned of Andre
> Murray and the common denomination we have in common:  "police abuse".
>
> Please read the next few emails and see what you think.  Then on
> Friday, Sally said she met with Charles at his house and she was late
> to meet me for lunch.  She did not mention that they were walking on
> the street as has been written on our blog.  However, Sally told me to
> just let Charles do the whole process of the blog and not send
> anything to him but brief comments as Charles is not well enough to
> understand my topics of police commission willfull blindness.  I said
> okay, but she did not say they were together on the streets nor
> mention anything like that, just that she was late because of doing
> errands.
>
> Please remember that nothing about my story was ever written in the
> Brunswick Newspaper owned by irving and this is the case with Mr.
> Andre Murray.  Why?  Why would Jacques Poitras refuse to write
> anything and basically threw me out of the CBC a couple weeks ago,
> saying I wrote his boss, Hubert Lacroix.  I asked Mr. Lacrois since
> that time if Mr. Poitras has any connection with the female crown
> prosecutor, Ms. Poitras in Bathurst, N.B.
>
> Then someone wrote recently that our finance minister, mr. Higgs used
> to work for Irvings.
>
> I have continually asked if Irving or his son, Kenneth, who up and
> left the Irvings shortly after my beating took place and went to
> Kinross Gold may have anything to do with Ambulance N.B. and the big
> contract its partner, Medavie EMS which is a private, for-profit co.
> that has common shares and because it is a private co., the
> shareholders do not need to be mentioned at corporate records due to
> N.B. legislative statute under Private Act and corporations.  For ex.,
> Medavie EMS partnered with NB EMS and that too is partnered with
> Ambulance N.B.  They won a lucrative bid for sending a fleet of
> ambulances from Canada to Trinidad for $90 million a year.  Was it in
> our newspaper.  I did not see it.  Also, I have shared with many of
> you the corporate documents showing irregularities in the letters
> patent and the incorporation of Medavie EMS which is signed by a
> lawyer in Halifax who is with the law firm, Stewart McKelvey who
> represents Ambulance N.B. Inc.  I wrote the Trinidad Government and I
> got hold of the paper from Trinidad, the TNT Mirror saying the
> Attorney General was concerned about irregularities in the contract
> and Medavie EMS had written asking what was the hold up.  I then
> forwarded my story about getting beaten up at Ambulance NB Inc. and
> there was no investigation albeit I informed the Premier, David Alward
> and all other ministers.  It is my understanding too that in order for
> a P3 partnership that EMS set up with Ambulance NB it is supposed to
> be okayed with the Cabinet.  In fact the Minister has to sign off on
> it.  However, it was signed by a different Minister, Jack Keir, on
> behalf of Minister Greg Byrne who Mr. Keir said was out of the country
> at the time.  I asked the secretaries at Service NB who Jack Keir is
> and they did not know, but I later found out and called Mr. Keir.  He
> told me he is no longer the minister and did not know what he was
> signing, saying he is a North shore, St. John New Brunswicker and not
> a lawyer.  I have the documentation and it is questionable.  I sent
> this information to Finance Minister Blaine Higgs and he did not
> respond.  I went to see Kim MacPherson, our auditor general and she
> said she had no obligation to report it.  She said she knew nothing
> about this P3 deal and she would not talk further, telling her
> secretary, Heather, to tell me she could not help me in my plight for
> justice and almost being beaten to death while wearing an implanted
> heart defibrillator and reported sick to the paramedic station.  This
> is documented by others, not just me.
>
> Then I checked the records for Ambulance N.B. Inc. and find that the
> lawyer for the Minister of Health, Charles Murray is on the Board of
> Directors, as is Donald J. Peters the CEO of Horizon Health Network
> also known as Regional Health Authority B and is over the Dr. Everett
> Chalmers Hospital where my problems first stemmed.  It is scary
> really.
>
> Pls. read on.
>
> Evelyn Greene
>
> Wait for the next few emails and then let me know what you think of
> all of this please, especially the Canadian Civil Liberties Assoc. who
> know I contacted them long ago about my plight and they said they
> could not help.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:08:19 -0800
> From: sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca
> Subject: Re: Disclosure still outstanding
> To: evelyngreene@live.ca
>
>
>
>
> brilliant!
>
> This is really good, really concise and absolutely puts the pressure
> on. Well done Evelyn.
>
> STOP PRESS: LAXATIVE SALES BOTTOM OUT IN NEW BRUNSWICK!
> From: Evelyn Greene <evelyngreene@live.ca>
> To: christopher.lavigne@gnb.ca
> Cc: luc.labonte@gnb.ca; pierre.castonguay@gnb.ca;
> madeleine.dube@gnb.ca; justice.comments@gnb.ca;
> sallybrooks25@yahoo.ca; wishart.john@dailygleaner.com;
> wylie1@nb.sympatico.ca; mboudreau@stu.ca; w5@ctv.ca;
> hubert.lacroix@cbc.ca; jacques.poitras@cbc.ca; info@atlanticalarm.com;
> keith.ball@gnb.ca; kimthomas@ag.gov.tt
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:30:37 PM
> Subject: Disclosure still outstanding
>
>
>
> Mr. Lavigne:
>
> I still have not received confirmation that you went back to the
> police and Ambulance N.B. to obtain the rest of the answers to the
> questions you posed to them in your letter of Dec. 2011 about the CCTV
> evidence and the Audio evidence.
>
> (1)  Surely you are not going to accept the perjured evidence of Robin
> O'Hara and go ahead now and subpoena the main information straight
> from Atlantic alarm and sound right off the original data base or
> where it is initially (originally) recorded?  You need this according
> to the head of the company.
>
> (2)  Where is the evidence of the 911 call from Ambulance N.B. to the
> police.
>
> (3)  Did you get the statement from the Ambulance N.B. and the Police
> why the police were called in the first place when I was sitting
> quietly, and felt sick, and was no harm to myself or anyone else.  Why
> was that called placed to the police and why did four police officers
> and four cars arrive when it was not even an emergency?  Do you not
> see that my Charter rights were violated to a high (not low or
> moderate degree) ending up with me having bodily injury and no police
> report made out that I have seen, and as per the rules of the Police
> Act, when personal injury happenes to a person in custody?
>
> (4)  Why did the police investigate themselves when I made a complaint
> of abuse against them to the Chief of Police?  Who investigated this
> and where are their reports?
>
> (5)  Where is the report of NCO Horseman when he took my complaints
> and my statement?  What did he say?
>
> (6)  I need the answers requested from David Banks, the dispatch head
> at the police station for all 911 calls.
>
> (7)  Did you ask the police to explain the different dispatchers on
> the call and the questions posed to the crown about the video
> tampering evidence supplied by Ms. Brooks?
>
> (8)  Judge Richards had said to prosecutor Rose Campbell that Greene
> needs a lawyer and she was looking into, but then a new Judge (Judge
> Jackson) came on the case and I told him about this but he did not
> look into it.
>
> (9)  Where are the answers to the other questions you posed such as
> why Constable Rideout was on the phone while in the police car taking
> me to Headquarters and reporting that I was loud and out of control
> but this was not picked up on the audio of the call.
>
> (10)Why were the ambulance dispatched to 24 Doherty Drive for almost 8
> minutes after I was taken to headquarters?  I need their reports as to
> why and what they were doing there?  I have asked Fire Chief Toole who
> did not respond.  You need to get this information even if it is by
> subpoena.
>
> (11)  Where are the phone records of all calls made to Ambulance N.B.
> at 24 Harold Doherty Dr. on the 13th of May?  Were any from Cox and
> Palmer or from the NB Police Commission or the Court House.
>
> (12)  I sent you recent conflicting statements from representatives
> from Atlantic Alarm and Sound.  The owner had obviously not
> anticipated that I would contact the service provider who obviously
> told the truth.  What are you doing about that, if anything?  And if
> nothing, why not, please explain?
> (
> (13)  You have the capacity to send the CCTV video to the crime lab in
> Halifax (RCMP) so why has this not yet been done which would add their
> input to this matter?  Are you not wanting to know the truth here Mr.
> Lavigne because it would most likely cost less than $500 and your are
> spending far more than that on continuing on with this bogus charge at
> great expense to the public purse and the court's time?
>
> (14).  Much other evidence is sent to the crime lab for analyses so
> why is this case different?  Please explain that.
>
> (15).  The McNeil case was decided by the Supreme Court of Canada and
> that includes all disclosure must be given to the Defendant,
> regardless of privacy issues or anything else.  Again what are you
> doing to get the original documentation of the CCTV video.  The
> service co-ordinator said if one camera is not working, then the
> others take over.  There are four cameras surrounding the paramedic
> door at Ambulance N.B. Paramedic Bay and clearly picked up other
> movement that day, but did have four minute splitting here and there.
> The pictures that do take are for the most part visible so it is not a
> case of the camera set low for visibility issues?
>
> (16)  The expert from Outreach Productions wrote down that a police
> officer magically appears from no where on the CCTV camera?  What did
> you learn about that?
>
> I need answers to these questions and I am asking once more to review
> my file in its entirety and have the times set so that the photocopies
> can be made at that time.  I asked Simonne of the Prosecutor's office
> for copies and she said I would have to come back.  When I came back,
> she had left for home early and when I picked up the documents early
> the next week, many of the documents I requested to be photocopies
> were not included.  There was one email or report that had the word
> dizzy typed out like this "d-i-z-z-y".  I suspect that was one of the
> officers or paramedics who reported I told them I felt dizzy that day
> which i did.  Why would this be concealed now and
>
> (17)  Have you now reviewed all of the evidence, including the CCTV
> video and audio and my doctor's notes and the notes I submitted
> regarding the officer who was let off a charge in Ont. as he has
> hypoglycemia which I have and is in the police reports?
>
> (18)  You know that Cst. Rideout left my angina meds. (nitro) in my
> car with my purse and would not let me have it before going to
> headquarters and then $150 went missing out of my purse when it was
> returned so that I would not have the cash on hand to get my impounded
> car.  I also had to call a taxi for a drive back across the river to
> where my car was impounded and for some reason their debit machines
> were not working.
>
> (19)  I have a lifeline contract with Phillips Lifeline and I have
> told them of this issue.  My lifeline box which is connected to the
> hospital has not worked for some time and lifeline calls me every
> night at 7 p.m. to ensure I am okay.  If they do not hear form me,
> they call the ambulance.  Not long ago, I did not hear the phone ring
> and they sent the ambulance and fire truck.  I went to the door and
> said I did not hear the phone ring and I was listenening for it and
> told them I was okay.  Phillips lifeline then called the paramedics
> and was told by the paramedics "that she (Greene) was not home.  I
> asked Lifeline to document this information as it is just one part of
> the total picture of lies and corruption from Ambulance employeess.
> Your job, I believe, is to ask whey they lied to lifeline?  It is
> documented so you could contact them directly.
>
> I look forward to receiving your response to this letter which I will
> drop off at the Crown's office next week in hard copy so that if you
> fail to address these questions, I will use them later for appeal
> purposes as is the case with all the documentation I asked for to date
> and did not receive.  Also perphas you can ask why I have not been
> allowed a lawyer as per Judge Richards question about that to
> Prosecutor Rose Campbell?
>
> Evelyn Greene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Amos"<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> To: <oldmaison@yahoo.com>; <T.J.Burke@gnb.ca>; <john.foran@gnb.ca>;
> <Wayne.STEEVES@gnb.ca>; <frederic.loiseau@fredericton.ca>;
> <tony.whalen@gnb.ca>
> Cc: <abel.leblanc@gnb.ca>; <jack.keir@gnb.ca>; <premier@gnb.ca>;
> <Jeannot.VOLPE@gnb.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:08 AM
> Subject: Hells Angels EH Chucky Leblanc? When was the last time you or
> the Irvings or the RCMP saw one ride a Panhead alone?
>
>
> Remember these old emails of yours Chucky Baby? Post this photo of my
> nasty arse I Double Dog Dare Ya to Frenchy. At least my baby boy's
> little arse is far more innocent looking  than Shawny Baby Graham's
> black eye EH Frenchy?
>
> Small wonder that I didn't allow him anywhere near and of Cardinal
> Law's nasty Boyz in Beantown EH?
>
> You must I figured out by now that I hate diddlers and especiallly the
> ones who pretend to be oh so pious and above us all. By now you must
> at least understand one of the reasons I supported Byron Prior years
> ago in his quest for justice but I was always more concerned about
> about what he knows about Johnny Crosbie, the Haliburton dudes and our
> dead fish. But you don't know the first thing about that do ya? It
> must be because not one of your five brians knows how to read Nest Pas?
>
> HELL ANGELS FROM MONTREAL LOOKING FOR CHARLES LEBLANC????
> by Charles LeBlanc Saturday, Jun. 12, 2004 at 11:26 AM
>
> Thursday morning, I showed up at the Legislature to use the computer
> at the Library.
> I was told by security that two rough looking individuals walked
> through the doors and asked for a Charles Leblanc?
> They described the guys as rough looking and one of them had a long
> gray beard with a leather jacket!
> At first, I believe it was the Hell Angels coming down from Montreal
> for a hit on Charles.
>
> Hours later, I seen my bigot buddy Matthew Glenn and he was in front
> of the Legislature with his blowhorn.
> For you people who don't know the bigot? He's the one who started the
> Anglo Society. I seen him preaching to three young kids and of course
> I butt in and said - Hey Bigot??? Why don't you bigot go home?
>
> Minutes later, we were approached by two guys and they asked politely
> –Where can we locate a Charles LeBlanc???
> In a matter of seconds, the bigot quickly pointed at me. I said to
> myself - Ohhh?? Thanks a lot Bigot!!!
>
> At the end? It was a guy named David Amos and I guess that he's
> running at an independent in the riding of Fundy Royal. The guy have
> been living in the area of Boston and he's been following my updates
> on the internet. I'm telling you that the information highway is a
> great way to spread the message to the rest of the world!
>
> We talked for around 30 minutes and it was nice to see the bigot, me
> and David Amos together debating our own little concern issue. We all
> have our own issues and it's too bad that we cannot unite and fight
> but that's the way Canadians do things. They remind silent until the
> Government really pissed them all and go out and vote the party in
> power out of office.
>
> What did I tell you people in the past? Someone is
> going to crack up one of these days and I know for a
> fact the area targeted is going to be the Legislature.
>
> Two weeks later you wrote this Chucky
>
> "There's always undercovers cops around but only when the House is in
> session. As God as my witness I hope nothing happens but it's just a
> matter of time till someone is push over the edge.
>
> I guess a guy name David Amos was shown the door yesterday at the
> Legislature. This guy is running as an Independent candidate in the
> riding of Fundy Royal. I met the guy over the net and he has a beef
> with our political bureaucrats. I admire people fighting for what they
> believe in but you can't get carried away.
>
> I guess in this case? He wanted to speak from the Gallery and that's a
> big faux pas!"
>
> After you continued to make fun of me throughout the summer of 2004
> amongst the other things I forwarded to you was an old joke about my
> drunken Irish Catholic in laws in Beantown. N'est Pas? It must have
> pissed you off as I tortured the Hell out of your buddy Bernie Richard
> the nasty Ombudsman too before my wife and I and a lawyer visited the
> Police Commission. In response you sent photos of your old soon to be
> dead dog comparing it to me. I laughed the photos were taken by your
> Fake Left friends and emailed to you. Your big Faux Pas was that you
> were so dumb you sent me their email address too. Thus in a wink of an
> eye I knew and had the proof of who was behind you and pulling your
> strings. Do they remember my conversations with them last year? I do.
> The question is did I record them as they made liars out of themselves.
> LOL EH? Stay tuned Frenchy.
>
> When you saw that I was falsely imprisoned in Boston on October 1st,
> 2004 you largely shut up and never responded to my emails over the
> course of the past four years because you knew what I did with them
> after that. As the old Joke goes many a true word is said in jest and
> you did not like other people reading your nonsense to me. Correct?
>
> Years after that old joke I sent you went around. The Yankees made a
> movie starring Jack Nicholson based on Whitey's life and times. It is
> entitled "The Departed". Perhaps the drunken Catholic in you should
> rent it sometime with your welfare dimes. Listen closely to what ol
> Jacky Boy says about your Church and their very corrupt doings.
>
> My Keith ancestors and I were not alone in our contempt towards your
> church EH? Did your Mama tell you that the Keiths came out of northern
> Germany to settle in Scotland in order to escape your nasty Popes and
> their cohorts? Do you understand that after the shit was settled in
> 1755 the Frenchmen in Canada who did not wish to be shipped out to
> other French holdings swore allegiance to the British Crown? What
> makes you dudes think that you can change the deal now especially in
> light of the fact every Indian demands that we hold up to all the
> other deals our ancestors made long before any of us were born? The
> Scottish part of you should shove that Acadian flag along with its
> flagpole up your French arse Chucky Baby. Is that clear or COR enough
> for you?
>
> To rub it in I will tell you that after my father died my Mama married
> Loyd Nickerson a member of the COR Party who was also the Chief
> Electoral Officer of New Brunswick. One big reason I ran in Fundy is
> that there are damn few French men registered to vote and not many
> Catholic churches in Kings County. I  ain't a bigot. I love French
> Catholic women. Hell I was the first of my family that I know of who
> married a Catholic woman.  It is their greedy Catholic brothers that I
> hate be they either French or Irish or whatever. I believe they call
> this shit conflict of colours Orange versus Green  not biker bullshit
> as you claimed about me. I don't wear Biker colours I where the
> colours of My Clan and I have many friends.  Quite possibly many more
> true French ones than you do. How can you have true friends at all if
> they can't trust you. Do your even believe yourself and your obvious
> Bullshit?
>
> How do you sleep at night knowing yourself as you do? Why do you
> make fun of a fellow Maritimer whose family was destroyed by the
> very people you pretend to complain about? Never forget I am from
> Dorchester Frenchy and Ivan Cormier (AKA the Beast) was on my paper
> route and I liked and admired him and his friends and their art
> particularly Killer Karl Krupp and the Cuban. Their Bullshit was flat
> out entertaining and not malicious at all. Yours definitely is
> malicious and not funny at all. No Class Bobby Bass had way more class
> in his worst fart than you do in your whole soul. I must say venting
> some of my venom towards you is definitely good for my savage soul. As
> a southern friend of mine would say when I was feeling mean years ago
> "Ya gots to get the poison out or ya die just don't spit out in my
> direction. Save it for somebody who deserves it."
>
> BTW, the man who sold me that old Panhead that your cop buddies in Fat
> Fred City stole from me last summer was a of French Cathlolic heritage
> out of Quebec. He was a really good friend of mine and I named my bike
> after him and his wife. His family moved from Quebec to Vermont about
> a hundred years ago when your greedy priests demanded that the poor
> folks build another big fancy church across the road from the one they
> just built. So they crossed the border, built a simple church and went
> about the pursuit of happiness in a country that is supposed to keep
> church and state separate and have only one official language. Go try
> your crybaby French welfare nonsense in New Hampshire or Vermont
> sometime Chucky and see if you come back in one piece. I would pay
> money I don't have to watch that circus tent unfold. The Pope's
> mission is to keep you dudes poor and dumb. Get it Frenchy? If not ask
> your hero Spinksy Baby to argue me as if I care what any of you think.
> I would argue him right after that chickenshit IDs himself and proves
> to me and everyone else that he is not Brent Taylor.
>
> I Double Dog Dare Ya to post this email in his blog. I am posting it
> deep in your buddy the Gypsy's blog before I post it in mine. That is
> if he has still maintained his integrity after all my stress tests
> last week. You dudes kissing the "The General Blogger" nasty arse was
> too much for me to stand. It was too funny that T. J Burke blocked my
> defence of your blatant stupidity N'est Pas?
>
> BTW one of my wife's cousins Robert T. Kickham you remember the evil
> ex banker who turned into the evil priest is still Cardinal O'Malley's
> secretary in Beantown as far as I know. Why don't you sing their
> priases on the Internet this Easter and ask that all the corrupt
> Catholics to pray that I be crucified by the RCMP soon? I must ask you
> Chucky why did you support diddlers for years and then suddenly turn
> coat and support Byron Prior's pursuit of justice after ignoring the
> fact that I introduced you two to each other four years ago?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> P.S.  For the record Chucky this joke is still funny to me and my arse
> and my balls are as big as ever. Ain't it funny how time slips away
> and yet some things remain the same? Everybody knows I find you
> contemptible and why that is so. I do wish you a long life so that you
> can recall all your sins countless times with your five brains.
> However I must turn the page my personal history and go back to how I
> once was before I am dust once more. Life is too short to argue with
> liars for long or dance with ugly women so to speak. My Baby Boy turns
> 18 this year thus my job of raising him is largely done. He and his
> sisters are my best piece work. They all have the records of all my
> work including this email. (Obviously I sent it from one of my other
> email accounts to one of my son's for safe keeping before I save it
> digitally and print it as well.) Before long my son will be the Chief
> of our Clan and it will be his job to defend my integrity and my deeds
> for the benefit of my seed as I grin proudly from the grave. He is
> quite simply the best man I ever met and truly a man of his word.
> Never underestimate my darling daughters they are tigers in their own
> right and I raised them not to take shit from anyone. They may prove
> to be the most trouble for the unethical smiling bastards that are the
> powers that be right now.
>
> Between men I asked my son to piss on the graves of my enemies someday
> if I could not do so and he promised that he would. I would not ask my
> little Darlins to do such a thing out of respect to their gender. As
> part of my Blood Feud you made the list Chucky Baby. Your Mama will
> understand why I told my son that in order to pay proper respect to
> from Whence We Came he really should drink a lot of Keiths beer before
> he does so. Whereas neither of us like the taste of beer I will leave
> him to his own chosen poison as long as he enjoys the in and out of it all.
>
> As for me I plan to Rest in Peace in Dorchester someday happy in
> knowing the fact that  I have left at least four very decent folk
> behind me on this planet. My skull like Yorick's of old will grin like
> Hell thinking about the fact that the prevailing winds will blow the
> smell of my rotting corpse towards your old stomping grounds where you
> no doubt will be buried without any children at all to visit your
> bones. If you do have kids or an ex wife or two I never read where you
> admitted it. Dudes like you and your fans such as Dean Roger Ray and
> the Depupty Dog Robert F. O'Meara are too selfish to make decent
> loving fathers anyway. If there truly is a Hell like in your dreams
> Chucky, I will look for you there. I suspect the Devil would promote
> me to Sergeant at Arms and give me a Black Rod as soon as I landed in
> order to cram it up your nasty French arse. I have no doubt its hard
> to get good help in Hell and Satan will need a lot of help pounding on
> all the evil priests, bankers, lawyers, cops, politicians and the
> liars like you who supported their malice in this wonderful old world.
> N'est Pas?
>
> Can one of your five brains tell that you have an ethical pigheaded
> Maritimer you hates you with a very justifiable passion Chucky Baby?
> Whereas your buddy Shawny Baby Graham enjoys jokes maybe he will enjoy
> this one since it is on you. It is not my joke and I give credit where
> credit is due. I hate it when you or your buddies Dean Roger Ray or
> the Yankee Stevey Boy Erickson steal my words and claim them as their
> own while you try to impeach my character at the same time. If anyone
> doubts that I am the first Chief of the Amos Clan who has every right
> and duty to defend it fiercely perhaps he should query the dockets of
> the US District Court in Concord New Hampshire if he knows how.
> Whereas everything in the Catholic's heaven and hell is down in three
> I file My Clan's declaration of Independence for the Keiths within
> three affidavits in three different matters. I do not file nuisance
> lawsuits as Yankee blogger hero claims. Danny Boy can post the photo
> of my nasty arse, my boy and my panhead on the Internet with my
> knowledge and assent and my blessings and thanx as well. However I
> still own the rights to it. I need it for my book about you Fake Left
> Creeps on Fat Fred city and elsewhere. It may be the only thing that I
> leave my kids that could be worth something someday. Maritimers do
> love juicy gossip N'est Pas?
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
> Date:    Fri, 18 Oct 2002 02:02:22 -0400
> From:    Rollo Tomasi rollotomasi@COMCAST.NET
> Subject: Bingo-Playing Golden-Age Golden Glove Catholic Gang Members
> Lay Waste to Bay State
>
> Boston - First it was financial scandals, followed by Notre Dame
> football teams that really sucked, then pederast priests. Now it appears
> that bingo, the fourth and some would say most important pillar of the
> Roman Catholic Church, is on the verge of self-destruction.
>
> Yesterday members of the Boston Police Department SWAT team, two
> divisions of the Massachusetts National Guard and the US Army's elite
> Delta Force had to be called in to stop a riot that had broken out at the
> Whitey Bulger Memorial Senior Citizen Center at St. Bernadette's
> Cathedral in the so-called "Southie" section of Beantown.
>
> "Southie," populated mostly by unemployed drunk Irish immigrants,
> became well-known in the 1970s as a symbol of protest against racial
> integration, and according to statistics released by the US Census Bureau,
> contains the highest concentration of dim-witted white people in the world.
>
> Although details at this point are sketchy, it appears that the cause of
> the
> riot was dissatisfaction over new rules limiting bingo participants to one
> colostomy bag per person.
>
> "I know these old-timers can play bingo all night," said Seamus O'Connor,
> director of activities at the Bulger Center, "But, my god, seven colostomy
> bags?!  C'mon, we all know they were smuggling in contraband and
> controlled substances.  Heck, we even found one hastily discarded bag
> filled with two gallons of Curacao.  I mean, give me a break.  Who pisses
> blue anyway?"
>
> The Diocese of Boston officially denied any responsibility for the riot.
> John Cardinal O'Donnell, Archbishop of the Diocese, angrily attacked the
> press for what he termed "sloppy reporting by biased reporters who have
> been duped by Protestant agitprop."
>
> Cardinal O'Donnell assumed a defiant posture as he met with members of
> the press.  "I'm sick and tired of all the anti-Irish prejudice in
> American society.
> You read the newspapers and you'd think that all we Irish do is drink,
> fight
> and whore around." O'Donnell then chugged a bottle of Guinness Stout,
> pinched his secretary on her posterior, made two fists with his hands and
> said,
> "And I'll lick any man who says otherwise."
> __
> by William Grim
> (c) Copyright 2002 Broken Newz
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charlie leblanc
> To: David Amos
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Good Day Charlie say het to Andy for me
>
>
> merci
>
> David Amos <motomaniac_02186@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: smay@pattersonpalmer.ca ; johnduggan@legalaid.nf.ca ;
> oldmaison1@yahoo.ca ; wayne.STEEVES@gnb.ca ; Cadman.C@parl.gc.ca ;
> Cotler.I@parl.gc.ca ; Easter.W@parl.gc.ca ; Efford.J@parl.gc.ca ;
> Graham.B@parl.gc.ca ; 'Stephen Harper' ; Jack Layton ;
> MacAulay.L@parl.gc.ca ; McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca ; Parrish.C@parl.gc.ca
> ; Scott.A@parl.gc.ca ; Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca ; Zed.P@parl.gc.ca ;
> info@cjc-ccm.gc.ca ; justice@gov.nl.ca ; Canadian Justice Review Board
> ; J. D. Kuntz ; webmaster@canadalawcourts.com ; Brent Taylor ;
> gbudden@buddenmorris.com ; frontline@wgbh.org
> Cc: info@pco-bcp.gc.ca ; strategis@ic.gc.ca ; JackMCOPA@aol.com ;
> user.cru@pol.state.ma.us ; plypd@four.net ; corp.website@sunlife.com ;
> martine.turcotte@bell.ca ; cynthia.merlini@dfait-maeci.gc.ca ;
> Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca ; Comartin.J@parl.gc.ca ; pm@pm.gc.ca ;
> jeff.mockler@gnb.ca ; diane.bourque@flsc.ca ; police@fredericton.ca
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:13 PM
> Subject: Good Day Charlie say het to Andy for me
>
>
>      Hey Andy do ya remember this email I sent before the last I came
> home? I bet Charlie Leblanc don't just as the other LeBlanc dude
> didn't want to talk fishing and you didn't want to talk about
> soliciting. Since I have left the last thing you want to talk about is
> Indians EH? What is you dudes do other than suck Martin's arse?
>
>        It seems the Frenchman who represents from Beauséjour, the area
> I was born in forgot the fact that both he and his wife are lawyers.
> Obviously I didn't. I also never forgot how Chréitian waltzed on down
> to Beauséjour years ago and his buddy Mulroney allowed him to have a
> seat without opposition except from a lady in CoR from Dorchester. You
> remember that place don't Charlie? I grew up just down the road from
> ya. What do you think will do the other LeBlanc Dude will do  when he
> receives the same material you did last year? I don't trust Frenchmen
> who are lawyers do you? Ask the other Frenchman you admire Bernard
> Richard who is a lawyer from Shediac/Cape Pele area why that is. What
> do ya think should I stress test the new kid on the block, Victor
> Boudreau. I know he ain't a lawyer but never the less he is still a
> god damned Frenchman. I think most Frenchmen are just like you Charles
> LeBlanc. Greedy Bullshiters. However I really love the French ladies.
> So does that make me all bad? Am I pissing anybody off yet? Good.
> Trust nobody is half as mad as I am right now but at least I am still
> having fun. I am just giggling up a storm at the thought of how many
> people are cursing my name :)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: dwatch@web.net
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:32 PM
> Subject: Read real slow then forget what is politically correct.
>
> Deal with your own conscience. After that try to think of a good
> reason why I should not run for
> Parliament and at least speak my mind about the sad state of our affairs.
>
> You know who I am. If you don't, trust me, you are way behind the eight
> ball.
>
> Once I make my mark in the American Justice System and political
> process, I am coming home
> to stress test the ethics of many a lawyer/politician in my nativeland
> during the course of the next
> federal election. My question to all of you will be why did you wait
> for me to say something? Am I
> the only one paying any attention. Even Jesus got mad a time or two
> and tore up a temple when
> he saw all the money changing hands in a place that should not be
> concerned about such things.
> But forget about the money for a minute.
>
> What did he have to say about anyone that harmed a child?
> Rest assured I will remind you. Although Iain't religious, I must say
> that Jesus had more of sand
> than most men and he made some very good points about what is right
> and what is wrong. Can any
> of you even hold a candle to Byron? He has at least one friend that
> will back him up all the way
> down the line.
>
> I don't mind dying it is what I didn't do while I was living that will
> haunt me in in my grave. What is the
> golden rule these days? Is it truly a fact that he with the gold makes
> the rules. Do you think voters
> agree with that fact? What say you?
>
> Canadian Corruption
> Sexual Abuse & Political & Legal Conspiracy.
> RCMP Incompetence & Cover up.
> Priors Of Grand Bank NFLD Canada
>
> How do I get a corrupt legal system to investigate, charge and convict
> itself?
> After years of asking the Canadian Legal System to do its job, it's
> long past time to inform
> the public myself about this lack of action or justice.
>
> If T. Alex Hickman, Justice Minister, 1966 to 1979 also Health
> Minister 1968 to 1969 and
> Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Newfoundland 1979 to 2000, 34 YEARS
> OF
> COMPLETE LEGAL SYSTEMS CONTROL,at 41 years of age, rapes and impregnates
> your younger sister Susan, at 12 years old, and in grade 8, what would you
> do?
> At 12 years old she was the youngest child ever,in Grand Bank,to have a
> baby.
>
> I am willing to take any tests and answer all questions regarding my
> entire life. All he has to
> do is take one blood test. It's time for him to stop manipulating our
> legal system and face the
> truth which I have been telling the legal System,and anyone else who
> would listen, all of my life.
> I didn't just awake one morning and decide to accuse the most powerful
> and most corrupt legal
> animal in this province. I have had, no childhood, no education, no
> family, no hometown, no
> self- esteem or self-respect and no past, present or future as a
> contributing person. By the time
> I was 14 years old I was responsible for 9 younger children, all of us
> abused and molested while
> our hometown either joined in, bothered us about our situation, or
> looked the other way and said
>  we were all trouble. and so on.......till the end.
>
> If anyone wishes to have the complete police statement contact me at
> alltrue@roadrunner.nf.net or
> telephone 709-834-9822. If I cannot reply I have been arrested. Please
> contact pm@pm.gc.ca or
> paul@paulmartin.ca and tell him the Priors of Grand Bank NF require
> Justice immediately.
>
> Thank You for helping.END OF WEB SITE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Correspondance Deputy Prime Minister/Vice premier ministre"
> dpm@pm.gc.ca
> To: davidamos@comcast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:34 PM
> Subject: Regarding your e-mail
>
>  If you wish to receive a response to your comments addressed to the
> Deputy Prime Minister
> and Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, please
> include your return mailing
> address along with your original e-mail message.
>
> All official responses will be sent by regular mail.
>
> If you wish to send correspondence addressed to the Minister through
> the regular mail, please
> use the following mailing address:
>
> The Honourable A. Anne McLellan
> Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Safety
> and Emergency Preparedness
> 340 Laurier Avenue West
> Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0P8
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: Correspondance Deputy Prime Minister/Vice premier ministre
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Regarding your e-mail
>
> I already received Anne's response. Can't you people read what you wrote to
> me?
>
> Why else would I be so pissed off? I am who I say I am and that is as
> follows:
>
> David R. Amos
> 153 Alvin Ave,
> Milton, MA. 02186
> Phone 617 240-6698
>
> Now just exactly who are you Mr. Correspondence Deputy Prime Minister
> and are you a lawyer?
>
>
>  Jan 3rd, 2004
>
>
>
> Mr. David R. Amos
>
>
>
>         153 Alvin Avenue
>
>
>
>              Milton, MA 02186
>
>
>
>                   U.S.A.
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Amos
>
>
>
> Thank you for your letter of November 19th, 2003, addressed to my
> predecessor,
>
> the Honourble Wayne Easter, regarding your safety.
>
>
>
> I apologize for the delay in responding.
>
>
>
> If you have any concerns about your personal safety, I can only
> suggest that you
>
> contact the police of local jurisdiction. In addition, any evidence of
> criminal
>
> activity should be brought to their attention since the police are in the
> best
>
> position to evaluate the information and take action as deemed appropriate.
>
>
>
> I trust that this information is satisfactory.
>
>
>
> Yours sincerely
>
> A. Anne McLellan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: alltrue@roadrunner.nf.net
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:03 PM
> Subject: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: tedcardwell@mail.gov.nf.ca
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:05 PM
> Subject: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos mailto:davidamos@comcast.net
> Sent: March 16, 2004 2:07 PM
> To: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> Subject: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> To: David Amos
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:15 PM
> Subject: RE: Regarding your e-mail
>
> Thank you for the notice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Amos mailto:davidamos@comcast.net
> Sent: March 22, 2004 3:28 PM
> To: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> Subject: Re: Regarding your e-mail
>
> No problem, Elsie. By the way my mom is a fan of yours. She told me
> you were quitting. Too bad if it is true.
>
> You are the first politician to respond to me. That fact alone wins my
> respect. Ask around Saint John about me
> in certain circles I am fairly well known. You may even know my
> sister, Nancy and her husband, Reid Chedore.
> Perhaps you crossed paths with my dad C. Max Amos he was a tax
> Supervisor for the Province years ago. And
> maybe even my mom's second husband, Lloyd Nickerson, from Fredericton.
> He was somewhat of a political person
> whereas my dad was not. (Lloyd was chief electoral officer for about
> twelve years and did run as a Conservative)
>
> If you wish to warm my mom's heart please give her a call and simply
> say that you appreciate her good words about
> you to her wild child Dalevid. She will get the joke. She is always
> confusing me with another brother. Her name is
> Anna and her number is 506 000 0000. Do with it what you will. Trust
> me I would love to see another out spoken
> Maritimer step up to the plate and speak of rights and wrongs. The
> sooner that I can go back to being just Papa the
> happier my little Clan will be. I would truly appreciate if someone
> would let my mom know that they are at least aware
> of my concerns whether they agree with me or not.
>
>                                                 Best Regards
>                                                                 Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> To: David Amos
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:42 PM
> Subject: RE: Regarding your e-mail
>
> Dear Dave,
>
> I try to respond to as many people as I can. We do get a lot of email
> around here....
>
> I decided to retire because I truly miss my family. It's hard being on
> the road back and forth by yourself.
>
> It gets very lonely.
>
>              God Bless,
>                               Elsie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: Wayne, Elsie - M.P.
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Regarding your e-mail
>
>
>        Elsie, I like you more and more. If anyone understands about
> being forced to be away from his family its me.
> Give my mom a call. Her laugh alone will make your day. To hell with
> the smiling bastards in Ottawa their grins
> ain't genuine. Maritimers can still find some fun in a long hard day
> :) Come to think of it, maybe thats why the
> Upper Canadians think we are crazy.
>
>         By the way I have managed to get a rather famous lawyer to
> speak on my wife's behalf down here while I run
> for Parliament uphome. But before I go I have been invited to go
> fishing with Martha Stewart's brother Frank in the
> Gulf of Mexico. My matters are about to bust wide open down here. That
> is why I have chosen this time to make
> an appearance uphome. Once I make the news down here I will step on
> the stump uphome.
>
>                                                            Best Regards
>
>       Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: robmoore@atrueconservative.ca
> To: davidamos@comcast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Regarding your e-mail
>
>
> David,
>
> Thanks for the e-mails.  I will read them all and hear what you have to
> say.
>
> All the best.
>
> Rob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: davidorchard@sasktel.net
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:15 PM
> Subject: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home
>
>
> Just so ya know David I am forwarding these emails to other
> politicians as well.  But I didn't bother to call them because they
> are lawyers as well. Therefore I see no need to explain my actions to
> them. Plus the smart one's have a bad habit of trying to ignore me
> anyway. I t appears that standard operating procedure for them is to
> ignore. delay, deny and then try to settle. They are confused by
> someone that wants to argue law rather than go away with the gold.
> What should be interesting to both of us is whether or not they have a
> sudden fit of ethical behavior after they discover that an honest
> western farmer and wild but ethical maritime biker have been talking
> about them. Please notice that I am more than willing to help such a
> man as Byron Prior anyway I can. I just wish there were more men like
> him on this planet. Trust me the US Attorney backtracking in the
> Martha Stewart matter and prosecuting a Secret Service Agent is too
> funny to relate in this email.
>                             Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: rosent@math.toronto.edu
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:30 PM
> Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: jim.prentice@shaw.ca
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 3:41 PM
> Subject: Fw: Here is some proof that Harper knows I coming home
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: leblad@parl.gc.ca
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:03 PM
> Subject: You, the Harvard Crowd and I
>
>
> We are going to have lots to argue about very soon. But like any true
> Maritimer we should first discuss why the Fishing ain't worth a good
> God damn.
>
>
>
> March 18, 2004
> Ottawa, Ontario
> Prime Minister Paul Martin announced today the renewed mandate of the
> Task Force on Seasonal Work. The Task Force will evaluate the
> challenges born by seasonal industries while looking into the needs of
> workers and communities that depend on them and provide advice on
> areas for possible action in the future.
>
> “This government places great importance on hearing from those lives
> that are directly impacted by our policies, including our seasonal
> workers. Our Caucus has been extremely active in making the sector’s
> opinions known, and will continue to play an important role in further
> examining those views,” said Prime Minister Paul Martin.
>
> “We are facing particularly challenging times in one of our economy’s
> strongest sectors and I look forward to working in collaboration with
> Parliamentarians and all Canadians to find solutions.”
>
> The Task Force will examine;
>
> the specific needs of seasonal industries and workers in the area of
> skills development, life-long learning, and literacy;
>
>
> ways to promote greater economic diversity and stronger local
> economies, particularly in rural and remote communities across Canada;
>
>
> the support required to help seasonal work dependent communities to
> adapt to seize opportunities provided by the new knowledge-based
> global economy;
>
>
> ways of lowering barriers to regional and interprovincial labour mobility;
>
>
> how to align income support programs such as Employment Insurance and
> Provincial Social Assistance Programs to improve income support, while
> also promoting full, year-round participation in the labour force;
>
> ways of addressing the challenges and opportunities offered by
> temporary foreign workers;
>
> the potential role for government in encouraging new approaches to
> community development, i.e. the `social economy` ;
>
> an assessment of the opportunities and challenges specific to seasonal
> economies in promoting the safeguard of our natural environment;
>
> The Task Force will deliver its report to the Prime Minister by November
> 2004.
>
> Members of the Prime Minister`s Task Force on Seasonal Work include;
>
> Chair: Brent St. Denis, MP (Algoma-Manitoulin)
> Vice-Chair: The Honourable Pierrette Ringuette, Senator (New Brunswick)
> Members: The Honourable Libby Hubley, Senator (Prince Edward Island)
> The Honourable Lorna Milne, Senator (Ontario)
> Dominic Leblanc, MP (Beauséjour-Petitcodiac)
> Jeannot Castonguay, MP (Madawaska-Restigouche)
> Rick Laliberte, MP (Churchill River)
> Georges Farrah, MP (Bonaventure-Gaspé-Îles-de-la-
Madeleine-Pabok)
> Nancy Karetak-Lindell, MP (Nunavut)
>
>       Dominic LeBlanc was elected to the House of Commons in November
> 2000. Since then he has served on the Special Committee on Non-Medical
> Use of Drugs, and the Standing Committees on Fisheries and Oceans,
> Transport and Government Operations, National Defence and Veterans
> Affairs, and Public Accounts. He has also served as Parliamentary
> Secretary to the Minister of National Defence and was Chair of the
> Atlantic Caucus
>
> .
>
>       Mr. LeBlanc received a B.A. in political science from the
> University of Toronto (Trinity College), his Bachelor of Laws from the
> University of New Brunswick, and then attended Harvard Law School,
> where he obtained his Masters of Law. Academic successes include the
> Dean's List at the University of New Brunswick's Faculty of Law, a
> scholarship from the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian Bar
> Association, and the Graduating Average Prize from Trinity College at
> the University of Toronto.
>
> Prior to his election to the House of Commons, Mr. LeBlanc was a
> barrister and solicitor with Clark Drummie in Shediac and Moncton.
> From 1993-1996, Mr. LeBlanc was a Special Advisor to the Prime
> Minister of Canada.
>
>
>
>      Mr. LeBlanc is married to Jolène Richard, a Moncton lawyer. They
> have one son, Selby.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Amos
> To: scotta@parl.gc.ca
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:55 PM
>
>
> Hey,
>    Methinks you and I should have a long talk very soon about
> Maritimers and Solicitor Generals. Call Anne McLellan or Wayne Easter
> and mention my name if you haven't heard of it by now. Trust that no
> lawyer uphome will welcome my letters. They hate it when they are
> compelled to uphold the law and the Public Trust particularly at
> election time.
>            David R. Amos
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> Charles LeBlanc
> 114 Brunswick Street
> Fredericton
> New Brunswick
>
>
> Charles LeBlanc
> 114 Brunswick Street
> Fredericton
> New Brunswick
>
> I have too many people on my list so I added
> another account! Some of you will received my updates
> from oldmaison1@yahoo.ca and others will be
> oldmaison@yahoo.com...It just takes me too long to
> send my update with only one account!
>
> Ok..yesterday, I phoned the editor of the Local
> paper and asked him where do I send the bill for my
> stomach Transplant? The Irvings?????
> This is what got me very upset-
>
> Daily Gleaner | Brent Taylor
> As published on page A8 on January 11, 2005
>
> Robichaud made an impact
> Brent Taylor
> REALITY CHECK
>
> This morning in Moncton Louis Robichaud was given his
> final farewell.
>
> He had not been well in recent weeks, but maybe not
> everybody knew that. Journalists knew, and had been
> preparing for some time. So, when the sad news finally
> came last Thursday, New Brunswick's media was ready to
> retell the story of the "father of modern New
> Brunswick."
>
> All of the papers had extensive coverage, as did the
> electronic media.
>
> In helping to prepare a little of that preliminary
> work myself, I spent quite a bit of time researching
> the career of Louis Robichaud. The more I found, the
> more fascinated I became. Being a resident of Quebec
> for the entire 10-year reign of Robichaud, I never saw
> in person the changes he brought to the province. AND
> IT GOES ON BLAH BLAH BLAH….
>
> For you people who’s not familiar with Brent
> Taylor?
>
> He’s a former MLA from the C.O.R. Party! I used
> to debate Acadian issues with these bigots for years
> in the letters to the editor!
>
> The C.O.R. Party was to the Acadian population
> like the KKK is to the Blacks! Brent Taylor ran for
> the Leadership of the C.O.R. Party in the early 90s
> while in Campbellton he made a very very very
> Anti-French speech!
>
> We all know that a leopard never changes it spots
> and it makes me sick to my stomach seeing this
> headline in the Daily Gleaner and of course I never
> read this BS anyway but there’s something that I
> found very interesting yesterday.
>
> Someone told me that Brent Taylor will run under
> the P.C. Banner during the next Provincial Election!
> Well? I’ll tell you one thing right now!!! If Bernard Lord
> allows that Bigot to run??? Well? I’m going to be front
> and center with this issue!
>
> The P.C Party shouldn’t associate themselves with
> a man like Brent Taylor. Mind you, I met and have some
> good friends from the C.O.R. Party!
>
> As a matter of fact, I had a good chat with Max
> White during the P.C. Annual meeting in Fredericton a
> few months ago!
>
> But I’ll never forget Brent Taylor speech and I’m
> very surprised that he has his own column in the
> Irving Papers???  Why is that now???
>
> The Telegraph Journal stop printing my letters
> but they allowed a bigot to spread his views? Why is
> that now? Who knows?
>
> I crashed their first annual convention in 1991
> when Danny Cameron held a news conference telling the
> Government of the day < Frank McKenna > to removed the
> Acadian flag from on top of the Legislature.
>
> My actions went across Canada. There were 1,000
> members at that convention and I am not afraid to
> speak out against hatred!!!
>
> I was very surprised to see J.K. Irving at Louis
> Robichaud Funeral yesterday!
>
> Of course, I always like J.K. anyway but it’s his
> son J.D that I don’t care for!
>
> Hey? Any Billionaire who supports Racism? There’s
> definitely something wrong with this Picture.
>
> I told J.D. himself that he had a very racist
> Supervisor working at Gulf Operators
>
>
> The Rise and Fall of the New Brunswick CoR Party, 1988-1995
> Geoffrey Martin
>
>
> At the time this article was written Geoffrey Martin was teaching at
> Mount Allison University in Sackville, New Brunswick
>
> This article traces the rise and fall of one of Canada's
> recently-formed populist, "New right" parties, the Confederation of
> Regions Party of New Brunswick. It shows how and why the party was
> formed and why it collapsed in the last provincial election. COR-NB
> was a programmatic party based on political protest, which advocated a
> libertarian ideology. The article argues that partisan realignment is
> possible in "traditional" areas like New Brunswick, but that the anger
> that led to the formation of the party eventually turned inward and
> destroyed the party's coherence.
>
> On September 11, 1995, the saga of the Confederation of Regions Party
> of New Brunswick (COR-NB) ended, when the party received 7% of the
> votes and no seats in the provincial election. This represented a
> major collapse of a party, which in the 1991 provincial election
> polled 87,256 votes (21% of the total), took 8 seats, and the position
> of Official Opposition in the Legislative Assembly. As it turned out,
> COR-NB's success in 1991 took place in a "populist moment" in New
> Brunswick politics, in which a number of factors came together to
> enable a new party, which rejected "Official Bilingualism" and many of
> the basic principles of the political system, to achieve significant
> success in a province with almost no tradition of third-party
> activity. COR's collapse in the recent election shows that this
> populist moment has passed, along with the other factors that made for
> COR-NB's success. For the forseeable future New Brunswick politics has
> returned to its historic pattern of two-party competition among
> small-c conservative elites.
>
> The COR Party of New Brunswick
>
> COR-NB was formed in 1989, less than two years after the "McKenna
> sweep" of 1987, in which the Liberal Party under Frank McKenna won
> every single seat in the legislature. In the 1991 election, COR-NB won
> its seats in the South and Central parts of the province, and its
> support was also disproportionately in rural, sparsely populated
> areas. COR took advantage of the voters' underlying concern about
> bilingualism. It did this chiefly in the former heartland of the
> Progressive Conservative (PC) Party.
>
> There are five central points that describe the party's platform and
> principles.
>
> The party was, first of all, a programmatic party, not a brokerage
> party. It had a fixed programme which its activists were unwilling to
> compromise.
>
> Second, it was a protest party with roots in a single issue, that of
> "Official Bilingualism." The party was essentially an "ethnic party"
> representing a segment of English New Brunswick which was extremely
> dissatisfied, to the point of anger, over the direction of public
> policy in the province and the country.1
>
> Third, like Social Credit in Alberta, COR-NB was a populist party and
> it placed high priority on changing the system in addition to changing
> specific public policies. This populism was represented most
> significantly in the inversion of the political hierarcy: For COR
> activists, elected members were responsible to the Electorate first,
> then the Party, and only finally the Leader.
>
> Fourth, ideologically the party is "classical liberal" in the
> nineteenth century sense, which today is best referred to as
> libertarian.
>
> Fifth and finally, like Social Credit in the past, in class terms the
> COR Party is petty bourgeois and lower-middle class in its
> orientation.
>
> This final point is important and too often neglected, and is also
> relevant to other Canadian political experiments, especially the
> Reform Party of Canada. In its heyday the COR Party was dominated by
> middle-income and small-business people, professionals, and the
> self-employed. The middle class is the backbone of advanced industrial
> societies and pays more than its share of taxes and is most likely to
> feel put upon and unable to "get ahead." The party went beyond
> appealing only to "middle-income groups." It was also a reflection of
> those individuals who have an intermediate amount of control over
> their work, including professionals, small business people, and
> independent commodity producers, like farmers, woodlot owners, fishers
> and the self-employed in general. These characteristics are important
> because this class sometimes allies with the working class, sometimes
> with the middle class, and sometimes is alienated from both.
>
> Political parties based purely on the middle class and petty
> bourgeoisie are notoriously hard to hold together. As C. B. MacPherson
> notes, "the petite-bourgeoisie cannot be cohesive" in politics because
> the individualism of members of this class divides it and splinters it
> apart.2
>
> In electoral terms the COR Party was not a party of big business or
> the affluent, even if its programme, especially the provisions that
> weaken government, would seem to provide disproportionate benefits to
> large corporate interests. Yet high income groups and wealth holders
> appear to have stuck with the Liberals and PCs. This is symbolized by
> the close association of the powerful McCain family with the Liberal
> Party, and the fact that one of the McCain spouses, Margaret Norrie
> McCain, was appointed to a five-year term as the province's
> Lieutenant-Governor in 1994. The Irving interests, both individual and
> corporate, are harder to identify with certainty. The descendants of
> the founder of the Irving empire take little public role in partisan
> politics, seeming to prefer to influence the provincial government of
> the day regardless of its political stripe. Judging from the 1993
> federal election and the 1995 provincial election, the Irving
> preference runs towards the "old line" parties and not populist
> alternatives further to the right or the left. In the 1993 federal
> campaign, the Irving interests made financial contributions to both
> the PC and Liberal campaign funds, and not to Reform, the National
> Party or the NDP.3
>
> The Formation of the COR Party
>
> The McKenna Liberals completely dominated New Brunswick politics from
> 1987 to 1989, and New Brunswick was effectively a one-party province
> during that time. Yet the COR Party rose much faster, less than two
> years after the 1987 election, than is usually the case with third
> parties. First of all, this rapid rise is explained by the seriousness
> and longevity of New Brunswick's high unemployment and economic
> hardship over the last 25 years. The Progressive Conservative Party
> was wiped out in 1987 as a repudiation of Richard Hatfield, whose
> longevity in power and personal legal troubles turned the electorate
> against him. Further, the Progressive Conservative Party was slow to
> rebuild, and the leader it finally elected, Barbara Baird Filliter,
> was generally regarded as ineffective. The rapidity of the rise of
> COR-NB was also a response to the McKenna government's desire to
> increase bilingualism in the civil service, an effort which the
> government has since admitted it has not succeeded in achieving.
> Finally, for many activists and voters, federal and provincial
> politics are not separate, and one reason for the rise of the COR-NB
> was the activists' distaste for the Mulroney government, another
> handicap for the provincial PC Party.
>
> A neglected aspect of the rise of COR-NB was its genesis as a social
> movement called the New Brunswick Association of English-Speaking
> Canadians, usually shortened to the English Speaking Association
> (ESA). The ESA was formed in the early 1980s to oppose the extension
> of bilingualism in the provincial government, something that it was
> effective in preventing. The ESA was like a party-in-waiting with a
> membership and an agenda, so that activists were easy to mobilize once
> the decision to form a new party was taken in the late 1980s. By that
> time individuals involved in the organization began to question their
> effectiveness as a lobby group. "We brought our concerns to government
> but it just became frustrating because month after month we were
> bringing the same concerns, getting the same answers, and really not
> getting anywhere," said Arch Pafford, COR-NB's first president, first
> leader, and an ESA activist.4
>
> The ESA was a single-issue social movement and the COR Party inherited
> ESA activists and this issue. Perhaps because of its ties to the
> (now-defunct) federal COR Party, COR-NB quickly developed similar New
> Right policies, including opposition to the Meech Lake Accord and
> support for parliamentary reform, tax reform, privatization, and
> deregulation. While party activists claim the COR Party is not a
> one-issue party, the party, like the ESA before it, would never had
> been formed without Anglophone discontent over the perceived lack of
> jobs for Anglophones, and Official Bilingualism, two phenomena that
> COR-NB activists always linked together. As Sue Calhoun has written,
> "If someone is pushed about why they joined COR, the answer is,
> inevitably, because of language."5 Just as the ESA was a protest
> vehicle, the COR Party was a protest party because of its desire to
> overturn the status quo and because of its dependence on a single
> issue, that of language policy.
>
> The COR Party in Decline
>
> By the fall of 1993, two years after the party's breakthrough in the
> 1991 election, the COR Party was clearly in decline, manifested in the
> party's slide in public opinion polls as well as internal bickering.
> By 1994 the party consistently polled between 3-7% of decided voters
> in various polls (down from 21% in the 1991 election) and its
> membership had plunged from around 20,000 in 1991 to approximately
> 2500 by the end of 1994. To some extent the conditions for the decline
> of the party mirror the conditions under which it arose.
>
> In this section some of the reasons for the party's decline will be
> outlined, but we will concentrate on one of the root reasons for the
> party's problems, that of the incompatibility between the party's: a)
> populism; b) free market ideology, and; c) its role as a political
> party and Official Opposition in the existing system. In contrast to
> many members of the party, the argument presented here is that COR's
> problem was not just a matter of finding a new or better leader.
>
> The party ultimately collapsed because of the membership's approach to
> politics and because a section of the party was unwilling to conform
> to the existing party system.
>
> There are straight-forward reasons for the party's decline that should
> be delineated briefly. First, the departure of Brian Mulroney from
> national politics, and the collapse of the federal PCs in the 1993
> federal election, made it possible for small-c conservatives to return
> to the provincial PC Party. Second, the COR Party suffered a double
> blow from the Charlottetown Constitutional Accord referendum in 1992.
> Since the accord was defeated nationally, constitutional and language
> issues disappeared for a time from the political agenda, which hurt
> the COR Party's ability to grab public attention. Even the province's
> constitutionalization of Bill 88, which declared the equality of the
> Francophone and Anglophone communities in the province, and the 1994
> Québec election, did not excite widespread public attention. The
> second blow was that COR-NB led the anti-accord side in New Brunswick
> in 1992 and yet the pro-accord side won convincingly in the province,
> all of which undermined COR-NB's claim that it represented some kind
> of "silent majority."
>
> Third, the provincial PC Party gained new credibility in the last two
> years because of the effectiveness of its leader, Dennis Cochrane, who
> was elected to that position and to the Legislative Assembly in 1991.
> Even the sudden resignation of Mr. Cochrane in the spring of 1995, and
> his replacement by former Mulroney cabinet minister Bernard Valcourt,
> did not revive COR's fortune's. Fourth, Frank McKenna's Liberal
> government was rightward leaning during its second mandate (1991-95),
> given its attitudes toward individual and provincial self-reliance,
> cuts to social and health services, and its emphasis on job creation
> in the private sector. This also hurt the COR Party because like a
> competent brokerage politician, McKenna's rightward move undercut
> COR-NB support, and this left most opponents of the government in the
> centre (supporting the PCs) or to the left (supporting the NDP, led by
> Elizabeth Weir).
>
> All of these are important reasons for the decline of the party, but
> we should concentrate on another reason, the incompatibility of the
> party's self-identity and its role in the system. The party tried to
> combine populism and free market economics, two ideologies that are
> often in conflict because the interest of the "common man" is often in
> conflict with the interests of even small business, let alone the
> larger firms that dominate the New Brunswick political economy. Like
> the supporters of the United Farmers and Social Credit in Alberta,
> COR-NB members believed in the value of the individual and of free
> enterprise, even though the concentration of capital and high levels
> of unemployment are the result of the particular form of
> resource-based capitalism that exists in New Brunswick. The COR Party
> started as a "revolt against the system," though by 1993 the party
> increasingly internalized the system and so the revolt turned inward,
> with all of the venom once reserved only for the New Brunswick Society
> of Acadians and the established parties.
>
> As the economy and job situation in New Brunswick improved somewhat
> after the recession of the early 1990s, COR-NB lost momentum. (Instead
> of scapegoating Acadians as they did in the late 1980s, in 1995 New
> Brunswick Anglophones were more likely to feel aggrieved at the
> Liberal federal government for tightening the Unemployment Insurance
> rules in the 1994 budget, or for its gun control initiative of 1995.)
>
> There is a serious structural problem underlying these internal
> conflicts, in the form of an ideological conflict between Board
> control and caucus control of the party. As has been stated above, the
> party policy is that an elected member is responsible to the
> electorate first, the party second, and the leader last. Yet under its
> constitution the COR Party—and not the elected caucus—selected the
> leader and the Board of Directors could call a leadership convention,
> which inevitably gave the party control over the elected members.
>
> Greg Hargrove (MLA-York North) said in 1993 that the Board overstepped
> its authority in trying to dump then-leader Danny Cameron because the
> Board is answerable to the membership while the caucus is responsible
> to the electorate. By this line of reasoning, the membership can elect
> a leader but cannot remove a leader, which ultimately sounds like the
> "old-line parties" that the COR Party criticized. This suggests an
> inherent contradiction in the party's inversion of the
> "Leader-Party-Electorate" hierarchy, because elected members cannot be
> responsible to the electorate first given the party's power to remove
> the party leader by calling a leadership convention.
>
> Conclusion
>
> COR-NB was a right-of-centre protest party that picked up on the
> tendency of many New Brunswick Anglophones to blame their economic
> woes on Official Bilingualism, big government, and "special interest
> groups." The COR Party went into the vacuum left by the collapse of
> the provincial PCs, aided by the general weakness of political
> opposition in McKenna's first term and the unpopularity of the
> Mulroney government in the Atlantic region. The political culture of
> New Brunswick was, for a brief period, not as traditional as many
> observers claim, because a significant segment of the electorate
> proved that they were willing to try a political alternative to the
> two dominant parties. By making the COR Party the Official Opposition,
> the voters showed that they were prepared to forgo, both as
> individuals and as constituencies, the benefits of having a member on
> the government side of the house.
>
> The COR Party ultimately declined because of the contradiction between
> its anti-party populism and the realities of operating a political
> party in the existing party system. This essay also shows the risks of
> building a new party based on participatory and populist principles
> when it must function in a "democratic" political system that remains
> hierarchical and discourages active, meaningful, mass participation in
> the process of governing between elections. With the election of 1995,
> the voters have again accepted the elitist political system, in which
> a government is judged based on its results—the "bottom line"—and not
> on its style.
>
> The COR Party was formed by a delicate coalition of populists,
> anti-francophone activists, and traditional conservatives. This
> coalition has shattered, and it is unlikely that it will come back
> together in the near future. It may take a generation to rebuild it.
> There is some possibility that populism will make itself felt in the
> coming years, if people increasingly feel alienated from New
> Brunswick's McKenna government and from the Chrétien government in
> Ottawa. The key question is whether any political party can take
> advantage of this populist discontent without itself being consumed by
> its fires.
>
> Notes
>
> 1. More attention is paid to the issue of bilingualism as well as the
> ethnic basis of the party in another article by the same author,
> entitled "The New Brunswick COR Party as an `Ethnic Party'", Canadian
> Review of Studies in Nationalism, forthcoming, 1996, Vol. 23.
>
> 2. See C.B. MacPherson, Democracy in Alberta: Social Credit and the
> Party System, Second Edition, (Toronto: University of Toronto Press,
> 1962), pp. 224-226.
>
> 3. New Brunwick Telegraph Journal, October 4, 1994, p. 1.
>
> 4. Interview with Arch Pafford, Nordin, NB, August 20, 1993.
>
> 5. Sue Calhoun, "Getting to the Core of COR," New Maritimes, 1992,
> vol. 11, No. (2) November/December, p. 15.
>
>
>
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Why Caledon's mayor says it feels like the child of divorce amid Peel's breakup

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Friday, 19 May 2023

Why Caledon's mayor says it feels like the child of divorce amid Peel's breakup
 
 
 

Why Caledon's mayor says it feels like the child of divorce amid Peel's breakup

Peel Region to be dissolved by 2025 if province's legislation passes

On Thursday, Municipal Affairs Minister Steve Clark tabled legislation to begin the dissolution of the region, making Mississauga, Brampton and Caledon standalone cities by the beginning of 2025.

Caledon, by far the smallest member of the Peel family with a population of under 77,000 as of the 2021 census, has always maintained the Peel Region system was serving it well.

Caledon Mayor Annette Groves likened the situation to a divorce at a news conference Thursday.

"We know that now there is a divorce happening, and now we just have to figure out how we ensure that the children are not impacted," said Groves.

"It isn't something that we wanted, but at the end of the day, we're here with this decision today and I think we just have to work with it and do the best we can."

Clark says he will ensure all municipalities, which currently share considerable infrastructure and several services, are "made whole" amid the dissolution. But for Caledon leadership and residents, questions remain what the process and result will look like.

Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing, Steve Clark, takes questions from members of the media after tabling new affordable home legislation, at Queens Park, in Toronto, on March 30, 2022. Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing, Steve Clark, says Peel municipalities will be 'made whole.' (Evan Mitsui/CBC)

Hopes for some resources to remain shared

The province's next step is to appoint a transition board to monitor any financial or contractual moves made by local governments in the years leading up to dissolution and make recommendations on things like labour relations and property tax changes.

Clark has said it's possible the three municipalities might still share some services following dissolution.

Groves says many questions remain including what becomes of water, wastewater and road maintenance in Caledon, but that working through those questions is the transition board's purpose.

WATCH | Groves on Peel Region's impending divorce:

Caledon mayor says she's confident Peel Region 'divorce' can work for all residents

Duration 1:46
Caledon Mayor Annette Groves says her community is the 'child' in the Peel Region split, but has 'every confidence' that all of the region's residents will be looked after in the end. 'I had a great divorce, I didn't even use a lawyer,' she told reporters.

The mayor says she's hopeful some services, such as water, will continue to be shared.

"I think the opportunities are there to share utilities," Groves said.

Longtime Caledon resident and community advocate Cheryl Connors says she's worried how her small community will pay for anything it will need going forward.

While the split has been advocated for by successive Mississauga mayors for years, Connors says it doesn't make sense to leave Caledon on its own because it doesn't have as many resources as the two larger municipalities.

"To announce legislation that leaves us as a standalone community as if we're the same as Mississauga and Brampton… That's just absurd," she said. 

Caledon The town of Caledon has fewer financial resources than Brampton or Mississauga. (Patrick Morrell/CBC)

She says she is worried the people of Caledon will now need to shoulder more costs.

"I haven't heard any business or financial reasons, or anything that's good for the taxpayers," she said.

Questions about level of consultation 

Connors says she's concerned about what she perceives as a lack of consultation with residents before the decision was reached.

"We're the forgotten child that nobody cares about. We're the afterthought," she said. 

Asked whether residents were given a say in the decision, Clark told reporters the province conducted polling and consultations in Peel Region. The minister did not specify who was consulted or how many residents were polled.

"There's been consultations, there's been election campaigns, there's been polling, there's been there has been studies. You know, this is not something that we just decided without some significant thought," Clark said. 

Caledon resident Shahid Khan says he's worried about what the move means for his family's use of recreational facilities.

"We go to Brampton to a soccer stadium and then we go their recreation centres," said Khan. "We need to build more of these services here in Caledon now."

But with less economic development in Caledon than in neighbouring Mississauga or Brampton, he's not sure how his town will pay for new facilities and services or if residents will have to do without.

In spite of anxieties from residents, Groves said, "I have every confidence that we will all be looked after in the end."

She says she will keep fighting for Caledon residents in the transition.

"I will make sure that they are protected, that they are we have our fair share, and that we are all treated equally here."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Clara Pasieka is a CBC journalist in Toronto. She has also worked in CBC's national bureau and as a reporter in the Northwest Territories, Ontario and New Brunswick. Her investigative work following the Nova Scotia Mass Shooting was a finalist for a CAJ Award. She holds a Masters degree in Public Policy, Law and Public Administration from York University.

 
 
 
19 Comments 
 
 
 
David Amos
Guess who I talked to today? 



David Amos
Methinks Mayor Annette Groves is entitled to know how I can help her deal with the nasty divorce N'esy Pas? 



scott barclay 
They amalgamated all the small towns into one big Mississauga, to save money.

Now they are reversing it. Go figure.

 
David Amos
Reply to scott barclay
Check out what Ford's buddy did in New Brunswick recently  
 
 
 
 
 
Donald Fox
Once Ford gets finished with Ontario, we will have a province that has been paved over, with no healthcare, a crumbling education system, with still no homes for the poor, and we will have no lakefront left - but Doug will claim that it was good for us - eventhough no one voted for it. As for Bramptom and area - it will become a dead zone! 
 
 
Dmitri Sukemov 
Reply to Donald Fox
Doom and gloom, as always. 
 
 
Tom O'Hare  
Reply to Donald Fox
so it will be the same as the last 20 years? 
 
 
scott barclay
Reply to Donald Fox
Its better to stick to reality, then make unsubstantiated speculations.
 
 
Donald Fox
Reply to scott barclay
It must be nice to live in your world - you just don't know what is taking place around you because you simply trust peopel like Ford. Wake up and see. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to scott barclay
Trust that my speculations are not unsubstantiated.  
 
 
 
 
Bill Wilson  
Caledon's fate is inevitable. The whole area will be swallowed up by aggregate companies that want the stone Caledon sits on. Whatever is left over is being claimed by Ford for housing and giant warehouses.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Bill Wilson  
Oh My My
 
 
 
 
Beth Taurozzi  
calling this a divorce diminishes the professionalism & leadership of Mayor Crombie as a Woman in Leadership & of all Women in the workplace as this decision is based on Equity, not tokenism. the Mississauga declaration is historical legislation so I hope there is not bait & switch before the next election which I hope will encourage Crombie to seek the Liberal Leadership of Ontario, I am a Green Party of Ontario voter.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Beth Taurozzi  
Need I say that I strongly disagree? 
 
 
 
 
Andy Travis  
Once again Brampton will get S over it. Brampton has the highest car insurance rates and housing is right behind with taxes, now this will even bring it higher, everyone in Brampton should thank Pat Brown for doing a great job, right
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Andy Travis 
Surely you jest
 
 
 
 
Raymond Ridler 
'It's devastating:' Ford government slammed for doubling size of Mississauga development

So much for Mississauga gaining its "independence"

 
David Amos
Reply to Raymond Ridler 
Welcome to the circus  

 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
I like Mayor Groves' style

Ontario to break up Peel Region in 2025, but mayors signal it could be a nasty divorce

Legislation tabled Thursday kicks off complex dissolution process

CBC News · Posted: May 18, 2023 10:47 AM ADT

"Caledon Mayor Annette Groves says her community is the 'child' in the Peel Region split, but has 'every confidence' that all of the region's residents will be looked after in the end. 'I had a great divorce, I didn't even use a lawyer,' she told reporters." 

 

 

Ontario to break up Peel Region in 2025, but mayors signal it could be a nasty divorce

Legislation tabled Thursday kicks off complex dissolution process

Municipal Affairs Minister Steve Clark tabled legislation Thursday that will begin the process of restructuring Mississauga and Brampton — the third and fourth largest cities in Ontario — and the Town of Caledon into independent municipalities.

Clark announced the bill at a news conference alongside Mississauga Mayor Bonnie Crombie and Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown. 

Speaking at Queen's Park Thursday, Clark said Peel region, which is already home to 1.5 million people, will grow by half a million people in the next two decades and that those people will need homes to live in.

"To build these homes to the scale and speed that is required, the people of these three municipalities will need local governments that are not only nimble but efficient enough to get that done," he said.

The bill has been dubbed the Hazel McCallion Act, after the former mayor who served Mississauga for 36 years. McCallion died in January at the age of 101.

Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing, Steve Clark, takes questions from members of the media after tabling new affordable home legislation, at Queens Park, in Toronto, on March 30, 2022. Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing Steve Clark spoke to reporters at a news conference Thursday and said the province's plan to split up Peel Region will help speed up housing development. (Evan Mitsui/CBC)

Clark said the province wants to give the mayors of Mississauga, Brampton and Caledon the same "strong mayor" powers that have been given to mayors in Toronto and Ottawa. The powers allow mayors in those cities to propose bylaws and pass them with the support of one-third of councillors.

It's possible the three locales might still share some services following dissolution, Clark said.

Asked if Peel police could be among them, Clark said that will be up to the mayors and transition board.

Mayors differ on details of a fair deal

As for the financial fallout of the break-up, the mayors of Mississauga and Brampton have signalled there could be a battle over exactly what a fair deal might look like.

Crombie has long pushed for an independent Mississauga and called Thursday a "historic day." Brown has said there are "some legitimate, real advantages" in eliminating the second layer of government at the regional level. 

WATCH | Patrick Brown says Ford promised Brampton will be 'made whole':

Brampton mayor: ‘We need to be made whole’ for Peel Region infrastructure

Duration 0:40
Mayor Patrick Brown says he wants Brampton to get financial support for key infrastructure it helped build in Peel Region.

Ealier in the day, Crombie told CBC Radio's Metro Morning she doesn't want her city's tax dollars being spent building out Brampton.

"I asked that our tax dollars continue to be invested in our city for our growth and infrastructure, our programs and services," Crombie later said at the news conference.

But Brown disputes Crombie's numbers, with each mayor relying on conflicting audit reports from two different firms that explored the costs and challenges of breaking apart Peel Region.

"Every single cent we put in to build that infrastructure in Mississauga, my residents expect back," Brown said at the news conference. 

WATCH | Bonnie Crombie, Patrick Brown both say their cities helped finance the other:

Can the mayors of Mississauga and Brampton work together? Here’s what they said

Duration 0:56
Mayor Bonnie Crombie says she 'looks forward' to opening the city’s books to see how much Mississauga paid for Peel Region infrastructure. Brampton mayor Patrick Brown says the city will be watching the transition process 'very closely.'

Brown said his city's consultants say the cost of replacing the water treatment and waste water facility currently in Mississauga would cost Brampton a total of $4 billion.

Brown said if Brampton isn't "made whole" it would be "catastrophic" for property taxes in the city.

Crombie suggested it's Mississauga that needs to be made whole for the contributions it's made while Brampton and Caledon grew.

Asked about Brown's concerns that Brampton deserves financial support for the infrastructure it has helped build in Peel, Clark said he thinks a deal will come that works for all three municipalities.

"The transition board will deal with financial matters, we believe there are good quality municipal services being delivered equitably and fairly now," Clark said during the news conference.

Crombie too said she believes a deal can be worked out amicably.

WATCH | Caledon Mayor Annette Groves is optimistic about the process:

Caledon mayor says she's confident Peel Region 'divorce' can work for all residents

Duration 1:46
Caledon Mayor Annette Groves says her community is the 'child' in the Peel Region split, but has 'every confidence' that all of the region's residents will be looked after in the end. 'I had a great divorce, I didn't even use a lawyer,' she told reporters.

Annette Groves, mayor of Caledon, also said she believes everything will be worked out.

"It isn't something that we wanted, but at the end of the day, we're here with this decision today and I think we just have to work with it and do the best we can," Groves said.

Province to consider if other cities can stand alone

The province has appointed a five-member board to steer the transition.

Its job will be to provide recommendations for a dissolution process that "respects taxpayers and protects existing services," according to the provincial presentation.

Local services are anticipated to continue uninterrupted across the region in the meantime, officials said.

The government also plans to appoint regional facilitators in the coming weeks to explore whether the constituent cities and towns of the following regions could stand independently:

  • Durham.
  • Halton.
  • Niagara.
  • Simcoe.
  • Waterloo.
  • York.

For Durham Region's part, there have been no concerns raised about its size or structure, regional chair and chief executive officer John Henry said in a statement. Henry said the eight local municipalities in that region work well together to serve residents through service delivery. 

Board to oversee local decision making

In a presentation outlining the details of the new legislation, the government said its purpose is to ensure Mississauga, Brampton and Caledon "have the tools and autonomy they need to deliver on local priorities, including the ambitious housing pledges they have agreed to."

Mississauga and Brampton have committed to more than quadrupling and tripling housing starts by 2031, respectively, when compared to their 2013 to 2022 averages.

Three people walk down an ornate hallway with marble columns and tiled flooring. From left Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown, Mississauga Mayor Bonnie Crombie, Caledon Mayor Annette Groves and Municipal Affairs Minister Steve Clark. Clark said the municipalities in Peel Region are poised for growth. (Evan Mitsui/CBC)

The board will also monitor any financial or contractual moves made by local governments in the years leading up to dissolution, officials said. It will have authority to "make directions" to prevent any decisions that could complicate the long-term restructuring process, one official said, without elaborating further.

The board will analyze and provide recommendations on:

  • Labour relations issues.
  • Regional by-laws and the disentanglement of regional services.
  • Regional and lower-tier finances and their financial sustainability.
  • Potential new property tax arrangements.
  • The future of regional boards and commissions.

Those recommendations are expected in the summer or fall of 2024. Another piece of legislation will be tabled in the fall of 2024 to address any outstanding matters with the dissolution, officials said. 

Under the proposed legislation, the transition board will be "wound down" on Jan. 31, 2025.

Peel Region was created in 1974 by the government of former premier Bill Davis. The region is responsible for services such as police, paramedics, wastewater treatment, health programs and recycling.

With files from Lorenda Reddekopp, Lucas Powers and Lane Harrison

 
 
 
 

Mayor Annette Groves

Annette Groves

Town of Caledon

Contact information

Town of Caledon
6311 Old Church Road
Caledon, ON L7C 1J6

Office: 905-584-2272
Fax: 905-584-4325
annette.groves@caledon.ca

 
https://www.peelregion.ca/council/#council-mem

Region of Peel Council

The Region of Peel Council consists of 25 members. This includes the Regional Chair, mayors of Brampton, Caledon, and Mississauga, and council members representing wards from each city or town.

Regional Chair

The Regional Chair is the political head and is also known as the Chief Executive Officer of the Regional Corporation.

The Regional Chair for the 2022-2026 term is Nando Iannicca.

Regional Chair Nando Iannicca

Nando Iannicca

The Regional Chair is the political head of the Region and is also known as the Chief Executive Officer of the Regional Corporation. The Chair is elected by the 24 members of Regional Council to preside over meetings of Council and to ensure its decisions are implemented.

To accomplish this, the Regional Chair represents the Region in dealing with other levels of government and plays a strong liaison role with Regional staff through the Chief Administrative Officer.

Contact information

10 Peel Centre Dr.,
Brampton, ON L6T 4B9

Phone: 905-791-7800 ext. 4310
Fax: 905-791-2567

nando.iannicca@peelregion.ca


City of BramptonTown of CaledonCity of Mississauga
 
 
 
 

Hon. Steve Clark (Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes)

Steve Clark photo

Current parliamentary roles

Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing

Current party

Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario

Contact information

Constituency office

Unit 305 9 Broad St.
Brockville, ON
K6V 6Z4
Tel. 613-342-9522
Fax 613-342-2501
Toll free 1-800-267-4408

Ministry office

Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing
17th Floor 777 Bay St.
Toronto, ON
M7A 2J3
Tel. 416-585-7000
 
 

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Did hundreds of complaints trigger the review of LGBTQ policy or just 3?

Complaints made public share curriculum concerns, make no mention of education Policy 713

Education Minister Bill Hogan said the review of Policy 713 was triggered by "misinterpretations and concerns," and said the province had received hundreds of complaints about it. He has never clarified how many of those came before the review decision and how many came after the review became public.

The policy was implemented in 2020 and guarantees minimum protections to LGBTQ kids in school, including providing gender-neutral washrooms and respecting their pronouns in the classroom.

Premier Blaine Higgs confirmed this week the main issue with the policy is that it says if a child under 16 wants an informal name or pronoun change, teachers are required to get consent of the child before telling their parents. Parents still have to sign off on any formal changes and the policy does not change that.

A woman wearing a red suit jacket speaks to people holding microphones in the rotunda of the legislature. Liberal Leader Susan Holt asked the Minister of Education Bill Hogan for a list of complaints about 713. He told her to file a right-to-information request. (Aidan Cox/CBC)

Policy 713 triggered little public debate until two weeks ago.

On May 5, a small group of people holding placards protesting its implementation stood outside a school where teachers were holding professional development sessions.

That's when the province confirmed to media that it had been reviewing the policy since mid-April. On Thursday, spokesperson Morgan Bell said the decision to review was "communicated" on April 21, but she did not answer a question about when the decision to review was made.

3? 100? 800?

On Friday, when asked why he wouldn't share the details of the complaints or the complaints themselves, Hogan told Information Morning Fredericton, "It's not my place to release private communication with me."

The closest anyone has come to uncovering the substance of the complaints received by the government is Kelly Lamrock, the province's child and youth advocate.

He asked the province for the correspondence that triggered the review, and officials sent him copies of three emails. All three make unsubstantiated and sometimes homophobic claims. They also address curriculum concerns, which Policy 713 does not dictate, and none of them referred to the specific policy. 

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One, sent in December of 2022, said LGBTQ material should not be taught because it's against Christian beliefs.

Another email, from October 2022, said kids are being taught "Marxist" and "unscientific nonsense" about gender.

The third one, from April 4, 2023, referred to a long-debunked conspiracy theory about litter boxes in schools. The writer of the April email said, "I am not homophobic," and "humans are created male and female and nothing can change that."

Based on these emails, and other information given to him by the province, Lamrock said he recommended that the province pause the review and called the process "broken and incoherent."

"I am not sure any government decision could survive if receiving three complaints led to reconsideration," he wrote.

Lamrock did not ask for 'samples' of complaints

When Liberal Party Leader Susan Holt stood up in Question Period on Wednesday and asked about the discrepancy between "hundreds" of complaints and just three, Hogan said Lamrock "asked for a couple of samples … up to a certain point in March."

In fact, in his correspondence with the province, which was included in his report released earlier in the week, Lamrock asked for "any correspondence containing the misinterpretations or concerns" the department was citing as the basis for the review.

Lamrock's correspondence makes no mention of the month of March. He asked for documentation of the concerns the province referred to on April 25, when it confirmed to him the review was underway.

Bespectacled man wearing a button-uo shirt opened at the neck and a suit jacket. Kelly Lamrock, New Brunswick’s child and youth advocate, said he asked for any correspondence related to the concerns cited by the province as a basis for the review of Policy 713. He received copies of three emails, and none referred to the policy. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

When Hogan said Lamrock merely asked for a "sample," he did not say why the province would put those particular emails in the sample since they did not touch on any of the policy sections under review.

When Holt asked for an inventory of the complaints, Hogan said she should file a right-to-information request.

"I have a number of petitions on my desk in my office and in my constituency office. I also have a couple of recordings of some voicemails that have been left on my phone in my constituency office. I have had a whole variety of things," Hogan said.

The CBC has filed a right-to-information request for the complaints. Response to a request takes 30 days and often requires an extension to 60 days and sometimes longer.

Hogan said Wednesday the province will be revealing the results of the review into the policy in two weeks, likely long before any response to the information request comes in. 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Hadeel Ibrahim is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick based in Saint John. She reports in English and Arabic. Email: hadeel.ibrahim@cbc.ca.

With files from Information Morning Fredericton

 
 
173 Comments 
 
 
 
David Amos 
The plot thickens  
 
 
William Peters  
Reply to David Amos
And it risks distracting us from important issues of governance... 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to William Peters  
Relax and enjoy the circus on the best long weekend of the year  
 
 
Nicholas Hale 
Reply to William Peters   
FYI, Members of the government using governmental power to influence, interfere with, or overturn policy they disagree with, on a personal level, is an important issue of governance as it represents a gross misuse of power in an arena that should not be subject to political interference at all, let alone political interference driven almost exclusively by a personal agenda or religious view.

Politicians don't get to treat the governments they operate in as "their" government. This is not Higgs' government, it's the Government of New Brunswick, and Higgs is only one person among many where his personal views are concerned.

 
Marcel Belanger  
Reply to Nicholas Hale
Very good point.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Nicholas Hale 
Methinks you should check my work N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
Jake Newman 
who asked for this policy in the first place? 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Jake Newman 
Dominic Cardy  
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Jake Newman  

 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
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"Cardy said he sent the finished document to Higgs's office "for a final look-over" at the time and never heard back, so he signed it into effect just before the 2020 campaign." 

 
David Amos
Reply toMichael Cain 
This is NB not BC
 
 
 
 
  
Jake Newman
why are some folks scared of a review? 


Graham McCormack 
Reply to Jake Newman   
Haven't heard or read one comment where anyone said they were scared of a review. This all started because off a few protesters who decided to stir the pot and completely misrepresent what this policy is. It then continued when the government refused to stand behind their teachers and then suddenly announced that there was an on-going review of the policy while at the same time Higgs and Hogan made statements that fed the narrative further confusing people over Policy 713 and sex ed curriculum.

Throw in the comments from Higgs about drag story time and it's no wonder people are upset that something is being reviewed that was working just fine.

 
Douglas James 
Reply to Jake Newman
I suspect its because a review means you go into it with an open mind whereas Higgs has a closed mind and already has stated what changes he wants. 
 
 
Nicholas Hale 
Reply to Jake Newman   
You've missed the point, or are framing it as harmless as a means to disarm or dismiss the point, or the people potentially affected. No one is "scared" of a review and that is a mildly condescending way to frame the issue.

The review (if it is even taking place) is not the actual issue.

The issue, which would be concerning for *any* policy that was legally enacted and adopted by government, is that a review is potentially being conducted after only 2 years of implementation AND based on exactly zero formal complaints concerning the policy...despite the Education Minister claiming to have hundreds.

There is clear shenanigans at play and the Minister has either lied about the number and nature of complaints they have received or intentionally did not turn those over to Mr. Lamrock...and, if they existed, it would have been in the Minister's interest to produce them, not obscure them. Obscuring them only makes the allegations against Higgs and himself seem more substantial. Producing actual complaints, in the number suggested, complaining of the policy specifically would *absolutely* validate a review if the issue were so contentious.

It is not a contentious issue, for most. It is a clear smoke screen by government, having been found out. Hogan is the definition of "lackey" in this government, in his position, under Higgs. He was given the education desk to do as he was told, period, after Cardy (a much more capable and public serving politician) resigned. He seems all too happy to oblige. 
 
 
Marcel Belanger 
Reply to Jake Newman  
Not scared of the review, more concerned about who is doing the review and why. There's a difference. 


Jake Newman
Reply to Jake Newman 
it is a contentious issue for many, others it is not. Completing a review should hopefully clear up any misinformation/disinformation  
 
 
Nicholas Hale 
Reply to Jake Newman 
If there is misinformation at play it is being generated by those who felt the need to try and prompt some kind of review over an anti-discrimination policy that protects kids and has only been in place for roughly 2 years. It defies logic, or any kind of common sense, that such a policy (which does not affect curriculum in any way) would need a review at all, let alone 2 years after adoption.

The people who are "upset" by this policy are those generating misinformation, and will not be satisfied by a review: They will be satisfied by having their personal views catered to.

  
Jake Newman 
Reply to Nicholas Hale  
would personal views not already be catered to by having this policy?  
 
 
Nicholas Hale 
Reply to Jake Newman 
Only if someone believed that protecting kids from discrimination in schools is a "personal view".  
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Jake Newman
A Nanny State relies and thrives on folks being scared 


David Amos
 
Reply to Nicholas Hale 
Oh My
 
 
 
 
 
Louis Léger  
When politicians receive "hundreds of concerns" with little to no proof to back it up, it usually means that the information was gathered from the local Tim Hortons.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Louis Léger 
Higgy knows a dude who shares your name Trust that they have studied my work and my documents for years  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos 
Higgs losing chief of staff Louis Léger
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