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Trudeau announces multiple investigations into foreign election interference

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Trudeau announces multiple investigations into foreign election interference

Conservatives and New Democrats have called for a public inquiry

Trudeau told a news conference Monday evening that, in the coming days, he will name an "eminent" and independent person as a special rapporteur on election interference "who will have a wide mandate and make expert recommendations on combating interference and strengthening our democracy."

Trudeau's announcement comes during a heated debate in Ottawa over how to handle the issue. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre have been pushing the idea of an open inquiry on foreign election interference.

WATCH: Trudeau announces special rapporteur to probe election interference

PM announces special rapporteur to probe foreign election interference in Canada

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the special rapporteur will be tasked with looking at Canada's national security agencies and how they counter foreign interference.

Trudeau said the rapporteur could recommend a formal inquiry.

"And we will abide by their recommendation," he said in prepared remarks.

Trudeau and the head of Canada's intelligence agency have acknowledged that China attempted to interfere in the past two federal elections. They maintain the elections' overall outcomes were not altered.

The prime minister also said he's tasked the country's two intelligence review bodies — the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency — with investigating the issue.

"I talked to them about undertaking urgent work on the issue of foreign interference, within their mandates," he said.

MPs and senators on the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians (NSICOP) receive Top Secret security clearances and are permanently bound to secrecy under the Security of Information Act, permitting them access to the agencies' usually secret activities.

Trudeau said NSICOP will launch a new review of foreign interference, with a focus on elections.

The committee was set up in 2017 to provide parliamentary oversight of Ottawa's intelligence operations. It completed a report on foreign interference back in 2019, which called on the government to "do better."

"Canada has been slow to react to the threat of foreign interference," NSICOP wrote at the time.

The National Security and Intelligence Review Agency (NSIRA) is an independent and external review body that reviews all national security and intelligence activities to ensure that they are "lawful, reasonable and necessary."

Trudeau said NSIRA will look at how Canada's intelligence agencies work, "what information flowed or didn't flow properly and why."

Poilievre called Monday's announcement a "cover-up" taking place behind closed doors.

"A so-called 'special rapporteur' hand-picked by the prime minister is not the same as a true independent inquiry, with the full legal powers granted by the Inquiries Act, including compelling the testimony and the production of documents," he said in a media statement.

"Enough is enough. Justin Trudeau cannot continue to hide the truth from Canadians, and we won't let him bury the truth either. The Liberals must listen to the will of Parliament and establish an independent public inquiry."

Opposition calling for a public inquiry 

Earlier in the day Poilievre was asked if he would be open to receiving a high-level briefing from intelligence services as a compromise.

"No, that's a trick and that's a trap," he said.

"We're not going to have a situation where Conservatives are told that they have to be quiet about this scandal because they're sworn to secrecy. We need a public inquiry that is truly independent, to get to the bottom of it."

NDP House Leader Peter Julian told CBC's Power & Politics Monday's announcement was a baby step and the special rapporteur needs to be "impeccable." 

"It cannot be somebody who is considered partisan and cannot be somebody who is not considered independent from the Liberal government," he said.

Earlier in the day, Singh said he needs to see an investigation that is as transparent as possible.

"We want the public to know that we're taking steps to assess exactly what happened, how broad this is, and then take steps to recommend how we can prevent this from happening in the future," said Singh.

"That should be the goal."

The push for a public inquiry comes in response to recent reports detailing allegations of Chinese interference in Canada's elections.

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre points to take a question from another journalist during a news conference on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Monday, March 6, 2023. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre points to take a question from a journalist during a news conference on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on March 6, 2023. (Justin Tang/Canadian Press)

Back in the fall, Global News reported intelligence officials warned Trudeau that China's consulate in Toronto floated cash to at least eleven federal election candidates "and numerous Beijing operatives" who worked as campaign staffers.

Last month, the Globe and Mail reported that China employed a "sophisticated strategy to disrupt Canada's democracy" in the 2021 election campaign as Chinese diplomats and their proxies "backed the re-election of Justin Trudeau's Liberals."

A panel of public servants tasked with monitoring incidents did not detect foreign interference that threatened Canada's ability to hold free and fair elections in either the 2019 and 2021 elections. But the panel did say there were attempts to interfere in both campaigns, according to reports highlighting its work.

Foreign agent registry consultations coming 

Later this week, Trudeau added, the government will launch public consultations on creating what he called a "foreign influence transparency registry." 

Trudeau said the government wants to keep those who advocate on behalf of foreign governments accountable while protecting communities that often are targeted by attempts at foreign interference.

The government has promised consultations for months. Poilievre said the government still has not provided any details or timelines on this.

The U.S. and Australia have foreign agent registries that require those acting on behalf of foreign states to register their activities. 

CSIS Director David Vigneault has said that while such a registry wouldn't be the only tool needed, it would be a useful measure to improve transparency.

The government also promises to:

  • Develop a plan to implement any outstanding recommendations from NSICOP, NSIRA and the independent assessment of the Critical Election Incident Public Protocol within the next 30 days.
  • Invest $5.5 million to form an alliance of civil society partners to fact-check and counter disinformation.

RCMP investigating leaks to media

On Monday, the RCMP confirmed it's started an investigation into violations of the Security of Information Act related to leaks of government information about foreign election interference shared with media outlets.

The act is designed to safeguard and protect Canada's most secret information.

"This investigation is not focused on any one security agency," said RCMP spokesperson Robin Percival.

"As the RCMP is investigating these incidents, there will be no further comment on this matter at this time."

The RCMP says it wasn't able to launch a criminal investigation into allegations of foreign interference in the 2021 election because it did not receive actionable intelligence.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Catharine Tunney is a reporter with CBC's Parliament Hill bureau, where she covers national security and the RCMP. She worked previously for CBC in Nova Scotia. You can reach her at catharine.tunney@cbc.ca

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David Amos 

Maybe Trudeau the Younger take along walk in the snow like his Daddy did. If so then just like Mulroney he will give Canada another temporary Lady Prime Minister who will try to get folks to support her 
 
 
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Stepdaddy you mean.




 
gordon robertson 
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Wow. A total of 3750 comments since 11:43 a.m.

That's almost 14 posts per minute.

No one can say that the Conservatives are slackers.

Not that bullboard posts indicate any competency, LOL

 
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Coming from a 32% commenting about competence that is a total hoot. LOL 
 
 
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Welcome to the circus 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kyle Price 
Justin seems to be leading his party back to unofficial party status
 
 
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Methinks I would not be one bit surprised to see Trudeau the Younger take along walk in the snow like his Daddy did. If so then just like Mulroney he will give Canada another temporary Lady Prime Minister who will try to get folks to support her budget N'esy Pas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

King makes it official: Prince Edward Island election to be held April 3

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King makes it official: Prince Edward Island election to be held April 3

Dennis King calls election 6 months earlier than fixed election date of Oct. 2

Prince Edward Islanders are heading to the polls for a provincial election this spring, with voting day set for Monday, April 3.

Progressive Conservative Leader Dennis King made the official announcement Monday evening at his nomination meeting, as he became the final candidate to be nominated to run in the 2023 provincial election for the party.

"This election is going to be about a lot of things. But primarily it's about leadership," King told about 200 candidates and supporters gathered at Winsloe United Church in his district of Brackley-Hunter River, surrounded by signs reading: "PC: With you, for you."

"It's about who's best positioned to lead our province forward during the next four years."

In a high-energy speech, he listed how his party had tackled the key issues of health care, the rising cost of living, and access to housing.

I'm confident in our team, I'm confident in our plan, I'm confident in our track record.
— Dennis King

"Today is the beginning of a new journey," King said as he wrapped up, saying: "I'm confident in our team, I'm confident in our plan, I'm confident in our track record.

"And I say to you, and I say to the 26 of you [candidates] behind me: Let's get to work, let's go get the job done one more time."

The election call came after months of speculation about a possible spring election, at kitchen tables and coffee shops as well as in the halls of the legislature. King all but guaranteed it this winter, dropping hints here and there that the PCs were getting ready — most recently in an interview after the party nominated its first candidate in the city of Summerside. 

PC Leader Dennis King announces the election for April 3

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'It may not come as a surprise to many of you, but earlier today I visited her honour, the lieutenant-governor, and I asked her to sign the writ of election,' says PC Leader Dennis King.

Prince Edward Island does have fixed election legislation setting the next voting date as Oct. 2, 2023, but King exercised his right as premier to trigger it early.

King later defended that decision when talking to reporters. 

"It's four years; it's time to have an election," he said. "There's uncertainty in the future and Islanders should have a say in that." 

King added that there is a chance of a federal election later in the year, given that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is leading a minority government. "There's uncertainty in Ottawa," he said. "There could be a fall election. Part of the reason our election was moved [is] because the election dates in Ottawa."

PC Leader Dennis King stands in front of reporters after his nomination meeting."It's four years; it's time to have an election," PC Leader Dennis King says. "There's uncertainty in the future and Islanders should have a say in that." (Cody MacKay/CBC)

The P.C. leader, who had held the premier's job since 2019, said he went to see Lt.-Gov Antoinette Perry on Monday morning to kickstart the election.

Who is running so far?

Shortly after King spoke, Elections P.E.I. issued a news release about the provincial vote to be held in four weeks' time, saying advance polls would take place on March 25, 27 and 31 from 9 a.m. until 7 p.m.

As of Monday evening, the Progressive Conservatives were the only party to have a full slate of 27 candidates nominated and ready to run.

The other parties are planning more nomination meetings in the coming days.

Here is the breakdown so far of how many people have declared their intention to run for each of the other major parties (nominated or soon-to-be-nominated):

  • The Greens under Peter Bevan-Baker have 14 of 27. 
  • The Liberals led by Sharon Cameron have 19 of 27.
  • The NDP under Michelle Neill have 13 of 27.

Greens 'feeling really excited'

Green Leader Peter Bevan-Baker, whose party has formed the Official Opposition since 2019, said he would have preferred that King stick to the fixed election date of Oct. 2.

"It's not the right time for Islanders, and I also think it's not the right time for democracy," he said. "When you call a snap election like this, it creates such an imbalance between the ruling party … and the rest of us."

A man wearing a suit stands in front of a building. P.E.I. Green Party Leader Peter Bevan-Baker says his party is confirming a candidate slate that's 'second to none' for this campaign. (Rick Gibbs/CBC)

Given that, he's excited about his party's possibilities going into the April 3 election.

"We have a platform we've been working on for a very long time. We just nominated this evening two more candidates, so we continue to build a slate of candidates across this province," he said.

"The quality of the folks who are coming forward is second to none and I'm just feeling really excited and really optimistic about the next month."

Liberals, NDP criticize snap call

A spring election has been "the worst kept secret on P.E.I.," said Liberal Leader Sharon Cameron.

"The announcement is as heartbreaking as it is discouraging," she said. "We've always been very vocal about the snap election date."

Headshot of Sharon Cameron, PEI's Liberal Leader. Sharon Cameron, leader of the Liberal Party of Prince Edward Island, said her primary goal going into this campaign is addressing health care. (Brian Higgins/CBC)

Cameron said her primary goal going into this election is addressing health care, adding that the party has a strong, diverse set of candidates with more being announced by the day.

NDP candidate Herb Dickieson spoke on behalf of his party, saying not following the fixed election date amounts to "broken promise" for the PC campaign as it starts off.

"When governments attempt to deceive the people, they sometimes regret it," Dickieson said.

As for the party's priorities going into the election, he said the party has health care top of mind and they plans on running a full slate of 27 candidates.

Michelle Neill speaking with Islanders. The NDP under leader Michelle Neill had about half of their candidates confirmed as of Monday night, including former MLA Herb Dickieson. (CBC)

"Michelle Neill has a better deal for Islanders and that's our slogan and we have a very good platform to back it up with," he said. "We're looking with great anticipation for much better results [than 2019] and what we're going to see … is that New Democrats will be elected in the Island legislature."

The Island Party has also announced it plans to field candidates in the race, and has registered with Elections P.E.I. A recent news release said it will call for "responsible and transparent government." 

The issues heading in 

There will likely be more focused debate on hot-button issues this time around. Back in 2019, the province had a full slate of topics of concern, of course, but there was also a referendum on proportional representation tied to the vote.

This time, expect to see some of the same issues debated in 2019 return in an even more pressing manner, including:

  • Health care and doctor shortages.
  • Housing and homelessness.
  • Inflation, poverty, wages and the economy. 
  • Environment, climate change and shoreline protection.

Health care and doctor shortages are issues thataffect most Islanders, with more than 28,000 people and counting onthe P.E.I. patient registry. Combine that witha shortage of doctors in many parts of the province, leading to hospital closures in rural parts of P.E.I. and extremely crunched ERs at both Summerside's Prince County Hospital and Charlottetown's Queen Elizabeth Hospital. Also in the health care file is the COVID-19 pandemic that has dominated global attention since the winter of 2020 and is still claiming lives on P.E.I. 

Man in dress shirt signs election document. Shortly after the election was triggered on Monday night, Elections P.E.I. released this photo of CEO Tim Garrity signing the writ of election for a provincial vote to be held on April 3. The agency said advance polls will take place on March 25, 27 and 31 from 9 a.m. until 7 p.m. (Submitted by Elections P.E.I.)

Housing and homelessness are an all-party priority heading into this election. On housing, increasing rents and a desperately short supply of units have squeezed the tenant population, with rising house prices pushing ownership out of reach for many Islanders. At the same time, more people have been living in tents, on couches, in cars, or at outreach centres and emergency shelters — likethe one that opened in Charlottetown last December.

Inflation has drained the resources of Islanders on nearly every bill, particularly when it comes to grocery shopping and buying gas and home heating fuel.Rent andmortgage rates are also way up, squeezing the budgets and putting more people on the poverty line. Use of food banks is at a historic high, with more and more rural populations installing community fridges to help their neighbours.

In some ways, major storms bookended the last four years of governance, with post-tropical storm Dorian in 2019 andpost-tropical storm Fiona in 2022 mercilessly pummelling Prince Edward Island. The unprecedented became precedented as all levels ofgovernment raced to rework and reinforce their climate change policies.

Elections P.E.I. has sent out voter information cards across the province ahead of the spring election, and is encouraging Islanders to make sure their information is up to date.

For more on how to do that,visit the Elections P.E.I. website.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Cody MacKay

Multi-platform Journalist

Cody MacKay is a writer, editor and social media producer for CBC News on Prince Edward Island. From Summerside, he's a UPEI history and Carleton masters of journalism grad who joined CBC P.E.I. in 2017. You can reach him at cody.mackay@cbc.ca or on social media as @CodyBMac

 
 
 
 
 

Why P.E.I. is having an election in April, when the date fixed by law is in October

'To me, a fixed election date is something that we should actually set and stick to': Dennis King in 2019

The short answer is, because Dennis King wants one now.

Since Confederation it has been the prerogative of premiers and prime ministers to call elections when they deemed it was time to do so. This frequently led to cries of foul, when leaders moved to call elections when they appeared to have an advantage, or delayed calls to avoid what seemed to be certain defeat.

Over the last couple of decades there has been some effort at change.

British Columbia introduced the idea of fixing election dates in 2001, but the idea didn't catch on immediately. After dates were fixed federally in 2007 more provinces jumped on board. By the end of 2008 most provinces had fixed dates, and with their introduction in Nova Scotia in 2021 all the provinces now have legislation in place.

But in terms of election dates, "fixed" is a relative term. This is the fourth election for P.E.I. since the Election Act was amended in May 2008, and only the first of those, in 2011, was held on the first Monday in October — that would be Oct. 2 this year — as spelled out in the legislation. The other three were held in the spring.

So what gives? Why were Wade MacLauchlan and Dennis King allowed to call spring elections when legislation sets the date in the fall?

The premier does not call the election

The answer is found in the first 11 words in the section of the Election Act that sets the fixed date.

  • Nothing in this section affects the powers of the Lieutenant Governor.

When people say the premier has called an election that is not technically true. The word "premier" does not appear anywhere in the Election Act. It is the lieutenant-governor that dissolves the legislature and instructs the chief electoral officer to issue the writs of election. But under the convention of responsible government, the lieutenant-governor only acts on the advice of the premier.

So, that crucial clause could be read as

  •  Nothing in this section affects the powers of the premier.

This clause at the beginning of the section that sets the date of election relegates it from an order to a suggestion.

Crying foul again

The introduction of fixed date elections has had little impact on the controversy it was meant to address.

Liberal Leader Sharon Cameron did not wait for the actual election call to complain about an early vote. Cameron issued a news release last month calling on the premier to wait in order to allow potential candidates, and in particular women, the time to get their affairs in order and free themselves up to run for office.

Man in suit talking into microphone. Meeting with reporters after his election call speech Monday night, Dennis King said this: 'It's four years; it's time to have an election. There's uncertainty in the future and Islanders should have a say in that... There's four members of our legislature who have indicated it's time for them to move on, and others have taken their place, and it's time for Islanders to have their say.' (Shane Hennessey/CBC)

The P.E.I. Coalition for Women in Government has also come out in support of fixed election dates.

King was asked about fixed election dates during the 2019 campaign, and he agreed with Cameron and the coalition.

During a leaders' forum on women's issues, King said fixed election dates make politics more inclusive and less partisan.

"To me, a fixed election date is something that we should actually set and stick to," said King.

"To become a candidate for a party, whether you're a woman or not, it's a difficult decision. It takes time. I've been asked in the last four or five different elections to be a candidate and you have a lot of things that you have to weigh in the balance. When all of the sudden you're weighing that and an election is pulled out of the air, it makes you either frightened or pushes you into a decision that you're not ready to make."

Prince Edward Islanders will vote in a general provincial election on April 3.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Kevin Yarr is the early morning web journalist at CBC P.E.I. Kevin has a specialty in data journalism, and how statistics relate to the changing lives of Islanders. He has a BSc and a BA from Dalhousie University, and studied journalism at Holland College in Charlottetown. You can reach him at kevin.yarr@cbc.ca.

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Green incumbent Ole Hammarlund loses party nomination to run in 2023 election

Nomination challenger Janice Harper won party vote in District 13 on Monday

Ole Hammarlund, who represents District 13: Charlottetown-Brighton, lost the nomination in his district Monday evening to challenger Janice Harper.

A news release says Harper is a land use planner with 20 years of experience.

Hammarlund was first elected in 2019 and was the opposition critic for Transportation and Infrastructure.

"Ole brought a depth of experience to the legislature while also bringing a great sense of humour — something that can often be in short supply in politics. I want to thank Ole for his friendship and his service to Islanders," Green Leader Peter Bevan-Baker said in an emailed statement.

"I encourage every Islander who believes they have something to offer to put forward their name when a call for nominations is issued. I appreciate the work and autonomy of the party membership to decide who they want to represent them. This democratic process is of key importance to the work of the Green Party of P.E.I."

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Cody MacKay

Multi-platform Journalist

Cody MacKay is a writer, editor and social media producer for CBC News on Prince Edward Island. From Summerside, he's a UPEI history and Carleton masters of journalism grad who joined CBC P.E.I. in 2017. You can reach him at cody.mackay@cbc.ca or on social media as @CodyBMac

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Green incumbent Ole Hammarlund loses party nomination to run in 2023 election

Nomination challenger Janice Harper won party vote in District 13 on Monday

Ole Hammarlund, who represents District 13: Charlottetown-Brighton, lost the nomination in his district Monday evening to challenger Janice Harper. A news release says Harper is a land use planner with 20 years of experience.

Hammarlund was first elected in 2019 and was the opposition critic for Transportation and Infrastructure.

"I actually wanted a contested nomination meeting," Hammarlund said. "I think that's the way to change guard. It should be, in this case, members of the party of the district that should make the decision."

Hammarlund praised Harper, saying she's "well-qualified and intelligent" and thinks voters maybe wanted to pass the torch on to a new candidate. CBC News reached out to Janice Harper for comment but she was unavailable to speak Tuesday.

He also said he was asked to step aside by the Green Party going into the nomination. 

"I rejected the notion, I thought that's not the way it should be. If somebody else wants to come in they should go through the motion and it should be the members that decide," he said. "I'm not for backroom dealings. I think people should vote."

Hammarlund added that he will not be running as an independent candidate.

'That's democracy at work,' Green leader says

Green Leader Peter Bevan-Baker said the party encourages anyone to come forward and contest a nomination, as it's central to the party's "grassroots participation.

Green Leader Peter Bevan-Baker faces the camera with an election sign in the background.'I think it shows excitement around the Green Party … I look at this as an incredibly positive thing for our party,' says Green Leader Peter Bevan-Baker. (Julien LeCacheur/Radio-Canada)

"If you feel you would be a good MLA, come forward and put your name [forward]. Whether there is a sitting MLA there or not. In this instance, we had a sitting MLA and somebody who felt that they'd be a good candidate," Bevan-Baker said.

"The membership decided last night that Janice would make a strong candidate, and she is now the candidate. That's democracy at work. I think it shows excitement around the Green Party.… I look at this as an incredibly positive thing for our party."

UPEI political scientist Don Desserud said it's "very rare" to see a sitting MLA be challenged for a nomination, let alone lose the nomination to the challenger.

UPEI political scientist Don Desserud stands facing the camera on the school's campus. UPEI political scientist Don Desserud said it's 'very rare' to see a sitting MLA be challenged. (Brian Higgins/CBC News)

Desserud isn't sure exactly why Hammarlund lost, but he did say Harper is a "star candidate" for the Greens heading into the election. Asked how it looks to see a sitting MLA fall in the nomination, Desserud said it may suggest higher engagement within the Green Party.

"It shows that there is a lot of interest in being a Green candidate," he said.

"The worst thing is when no one wants to come forward and to run. Challenging an incumbent is odd for sure … the fact that there was two people who wanted this [district] is at least an indication that people see the Green Party as having a future and they want to be a part of it."

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Here are the people who plan to run in the 2023 P.E.I. provincial election — so far

This list will be updated weekdays during the day, so be sure to check back

But who is running and where? We have you covered on that.

We've put together a running list of the people who've put their name forward to run. People on this list are either already nominated or are seeking the party nomination to run in their respective district.

Typically on P.E.I., earning the nomination is a formality for most people who plan to run, but in some cases there's more than one contender — so a nomination vote has to happen to choose the party's candidate for a district.

Below are all the names of people who've come forward so far. If you're not on the list but plan to run, let us know by emailing cody.mackay@cbc.ca. 

This list will be updated weekdays during the day — so if you're curious about who is running where, it may be best to bookmark this page and come back as it'll have rolling updates.

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Cody MacKay

Multi-platform Journalist

Cody MacKay is a writer, editor and social media producer for CBC News on Prince Edward Island. From Summerside, he's a UPEI history and Carleton masters of journalism grad who joined CBC P.E.I. in 2017. You can reach him at cody.mackay@cbc.ca or on social media as @CodyBMac

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Judge determines André Charles Murray has done nothing to advance his case since 2011

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Former squatter’s 12-year-old lawsuit dismissed

Judge determines André Charles Murray has done nothing to advance his case since 2011; defendants can’t find him

A judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed 12 years ago by a vexatious litigant who “has virtually dropped off the face of the earth.”

André Charles Murray, 42, formerly of Fredericton, filed a notice of action and statement of claim in the Court of Queen’s Bench, as it was then known, against 47 defendants Oct. 20, 2011.

Those defendants included a variety of businesses, government agencies and individuals, including numerous police officers and deputy sheriffs.

The lawsuit stemmed from the disputed sale of a home in which he’d been squatting, as well as his various dealings with the courts, financial institutions, neighbours and police over his unlawful occupation of the property.

Legal counsel for many of the defendants were back before Court of King’s Bench Justice Terrence Morrison at the Burton Courthouse on Tuesday, having filed a new motion to dismiss the case for delay.

Murray was not present for the proceedings.

Lawyer Bionca Bastarache, speaking for several of the defendants in the case, asked Morrison to dismiss the lawsuit under Rule 26.01 of the Rules of Court, which allows for it in cases of excessive delay.

She noted the defendants and/or their legal counsel have taken extraordinary steps to find Murray since the last appearance on the file Aug. 2.

“We’ve hired a private investigator,” Bastarache said.

She said she also attended a scheduled criminal court appearance in recent months for Murray, who has a long outstanding assault charge against him, and he was a no-show for that as well.

Murray has applied to have that assault charge transferred to Alberta, Bastarache said. That’s the only hint as to his whereabouts at this point.

Lawsuit idle since 2011

“Notably, this litigation has been quite costly,” she said. “It’s been at a standstill since 2011.”

Bastarache the “inexcusable and inordinate delays” have prejudiced the defendants’ ability to answer to Murray’s allegations.

Morrison noted Murray has taken no steps to advance the case whatsoever since he filed it.

“Everything on the record indicates Mr. Murray has virtually dropped off the face of the earth,” the judge said.

The delays in the case amount to almost 11½ years, he said, “all of which is attributable to the plaintiff.”

Morrison said he’s satisfied the unheard-of delays have prejudiced the defendants, and he dismissed the action.

He asked the parties if they were seeking costs, but Bastarache said there was no point.

“We’re not seeking costs. We’re not going to get it,” she said.

Courts have ordered Murray to pay costs totalling about $35,000 in numerous proceedings in Fredericton over the years from other lawsuits, applications and appeals, and he’s never paid any of them.

Vexatious litigant

Murray was a frequent litigant in the Fredericton courts a decade ago, and also faces criminal charges as a result of his conflicts with former neighbours in the Marysville area of the capital and with government officials.

He’d been renting a Marysville home, which its owner sold the property in 2009. However, Murray refused to move out and claimed ownership of the house.

He filed so many frivolous and baseless court cases over the years, the New Brunswick Court of Appeal issued a ruling in June 2012 deeming him to be a vexatious litigant.

That decision from the province’s top court noted Murray’s filings were rambling and often incoherent.

It said he and others in a small group of self-represented litigants were clogging court dockets, and while judges have a responsibility to aid those representing themselves through the justice system, they also can’t allow them to abuse it.

Murray has been unable to file new court actions or applications since 2012, when Court of Queen's Bench Justice Judy Clendening issued orders prohibiting him from doing so unless he paid cash deposits with the court to ensure future cost orders would be paid.

Don MacPherson can be contacted at ftonindependent@gmail.com.

Former cabinet minister Marc Garneau resigning from House of Commons

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Former cabinet minister Marc Garneau resigning from House of Commons

Former astronaut has served as MP since 2008

The National Post was the first to report the story.

Garneau, 74, has represented the Quebec riding of Notre-Dame-de-Grâce–Westmount, formerly Westmount–Ville-Marie, as a Liberal since 2008. He served as minister of transport in Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government from 2015 to 2021, and then as minister of foreign affairs from January 2021 to October 2021.

Garneau did not take questions from reporters Wednesday morning on his retirement from the lower chamber.

"Out of respect, I wish to talk to my caucus first," Garneau said.

Garneau made history in 1984 when he became the first Canadian to fly in space. He later became deputy director of Canada's astronaut program.

Prior to his career as an astronaut, he was a commissioned officer in the Royal Canadian Navy, where he served from 1974 to 1989. He rose to the rank of captain before retiring.

He was appointed a companion of the Order of Canada in 2003.

"I've known and admired minister Garneau long before I came into politics," Environment and Climate Change Minister Steven Guilbeault, a fellow Quebec MP, said in a media scrum Wednesday.

"He's a Canadian who went to space, he has a long and accomplished career of public service for Canada and Canadians, and I'll be eternally grateful for everything he's done for all of us."

Garneau ran for the Liberal leadership in 2013, but withdrew from the race and supported eventual winner Justin Trudeau.

Garneau's resignation would leave the House of Commons with five vacant seats. Former interim Conservative leader Candice Bergen, who represented Portage-Lisgar, Man., resigned from the House of Commons last month. The death of former cabinet minister Jim Carr last year left a vacancy in another Manitoba riding, Winnipeg South Centre. The Alberta riding of Calgary Heritage and the Ontario riding of Oxford are also up for byelections later this year.

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Miguel Sanchez 
Oompa Loompa Doopity Doo I've got a resignation for you. 
David Amos
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Welcome to the circus 
David Berg 
Wonder if he was briefed while he was foreign affairs?  
David Amos
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Lee Whitteker
I would have voted for Liberals if he had been put in as leader. Somehow if that had been the case I doubt we'd be seeing what we are now with the current debacle. 
Erin Morriston 
Reply to Lee Whitteker 
China didn't want him to be PM.
Anne Mailis 
Reply to Lee Whitteker 
He's my MP and although I voted for him in 2015 I later wrote asking him to resign and become independent. That was during the SNC days. He doubled down supporting Trudeau. I'm sure the bromance ended when he lost his cabinet position after the 2019 election. 
Stuart Wozniak 
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That is the best comment. Let's put that as a message in a balloon and launch thousands of them.  
Lee Whitteker
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I was so disappointed to see the head bobbing by Mr. Garneau. I did think he had more principles. Has he finally woken up? 
David Amos
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Perhaps but doubt he will spill any beans 
 
 


Evan White 
Marc Garneau inspired a generation of young Canadians. I was one of them.
 
Thank you for your service the Canada and good luck, health and success for the future
Evan White
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*to
ted anderson  
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He would have been a much better choice to lead the party and Canadians.

A uniter.

 
John Wilson
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Too bad he supported trudeau after his many scandals 
David Amos
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I concur 
David Amos 

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I concur 
David Amos
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Oh So True 
David Webb
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Party B4 country.
valentina vivianao
More resignations to come.

Stay tuned.

 
David Amos
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Of course
 
 
  • Why do the best politicians bail out, while the less qualified hang on and on?.


    ask PP



  • You need to ask little PP why he is still there



  • or the liberal who sits in the back row still wearing a mask. Too embarrassed to show their face



  • Why the raging man crush on Poilievre?



  • Good question



  • Well put

 
 
Jon McDermitt  
Ted Thompson
 
  • Hopefully his tell-all book will be published soon.


    The last 3 seem to have zero effect on the die hard liberal supporters.

    Even when their own paint a bad picture, they refuse to acknowledge the facts.



  • Heres hoping



  • There is no hope for the diehard zealots. They'd vote for a broomstick if it got the Liberal nomination.

Maine has a surplus of human waste. It's being shipped to New Brunswick

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Maine has a surplus of human waste. It's being shipped to New Brunswick

Company is sending 130 truckloads per month of biosolids across the border

Casella Waste Systems confirmed that it's shipping more sludge from its large landfill north of Bangor across the border and into this province.

"We have recently entered into a new contract with a disposal outlet in New Brunswick," Jeff Weld, the director of communications for Casella, told Radio-Canada in an email.

The New Brunswick government appeared unaware of the increased shipments when contacted for comment.

Environment Department spokesperson Anne Mooers said Fredericton-based Envirem Organics is the only company in the province licensed to import biosolids and has been doing so "for a number of years."

She said the company imported 13,400 tonnes from Maine and Nova Scotia in 2022. "This isn't new," Mooers said in an initial response.

A close-up photo of biolsolid matter in a crop field. The N.B. government said it has had 'strict regulatory requirements for importing biosolids for many years.' (Francois Genest/Radio-Canada)

But Casella is moving far more than that amount, according to a company letter.

It's shipping 3,600 tonnes of Maine sludge — about 130 truckloads, according to one Maine media report — to New Brunswick each month.

In a second response, Mooers said Envirem has a "cap" of 100,000 tonnes annually so it "can handle" the additional shipments from Maine.

"The government of New Brunswick takes its role to protect the environment extremely seriously," she said.

"We have had strict regulatory requirements for importing biosolids for many years. New Brunswick legislation requires all importation of waste products to be approved by the province."

'Short term' increase, company says

Envirem CEO Bob Kiely said in a text message that the company has had contracts with Casella for years and "the increase in volume … is expected to be short term."

He said the company has developed more stringent standards for what it accepts "than any other regulatory jurisdiction." 

Casella is facing a serious capacity crunch as a result of two new state laws.

A law which took effect Feb. 8 bans the use of the sludge for agricultural production in Maine. 

It's a response to concerns the sludge contains so-called "forever chemicals" known as PFAS that are considered a risk to human health.

A farm field with a large black area. Biosolids, or sludge, contain chemicals known as PFAS that are considered a risk to human health. Exposure to certain levels have been linked to some cancers and decreased fertility, according to a U.S. report. (Francois Genest/Radio-Canada)

Another problem is a recent state ban on importing large bulky waste that Casella could mix with the sludge to bury it. 

The two bans leave Casella with too much sludge to handle at its landfill site in Old Town, north of Bangor. The site receives sludge from about three dozen local sewer plants.

Casella was shipping sludge to Québec for agricultural use but after Radio-Canada reported on those shipments last December that province imposed a moratorium, based on the same concerns about PFAS.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency says exposure to certain levels of PFAS, or perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances, have been linked by peer-reviewed studies to some cancers, decreased fertility, low birth weights and other effects. 

PFAS are chemicals used to make coatings that resist heat, oil and water and can be found in adhesives, packaging and non-stick cooking surfaces among other places. They do not break down and can accumulate.

Weld said in his email that the Québec moratorium "does not have anything to do with" the shipments to New Brunswick.

"All operations are in full compliance with regulations," he said.

Kiely said he expects Casella to find other sources of large bulky waste to mix with the sludge, which will allow it to be buried and reduce the surplus at the landfill, returning export levels to normal.

Concern from N.B. agricultural group

Joel Lamarche, president of the Agricultural Alliance of New Brunswick, said he was concerned about the shipments and would discuss them with the organization's board.

In the meantime, he is warning farmers in the province to not accept any biosolid-based fertilizers that might be from Maine.

"What I would tell them is to refuse it. It's better to refuse it and have no problems than accept it and risk having a major problem," he said.

"If you don't know what's in it, don't use it."

Kiely said Envirem makes compost and its product isn't used on agricultural land. He said he's not aware of any sludge applied to farm crops in the province by Envirem or anyone else.

Memramcook-Tantramar MLA Megan Mitton said the province needs to act on the Maine shipments. (CBC News file photo)

He also said the company is "very selective" about what it receives and recently added even more stringent standards to address "new and emergent concerns."

That includes allowing only "very low" levels of PFAS, he said.

Green Party MLA Megan Mitton says the province needs to act on the Maine shipments.

"They're sending them to New Brunswick because they don't want to deal with the consequences of those products," she said. "I don't want New Brunswick to have to deal with those consequences either."

Sabaa Khan, the David Suzuki Foundation's director-general for Québec and Atlantic Canada, says New Brunswick needs stricter rules on PFAS.

"Under New Brunswick's guidelines, PFAS levels in biosolids are not integrated into the quality criteria. Québec is now looking at that situation and New Brunswick has to take the same action." 

A woman with dark hair wears a bue blouse and silver glasses. Sabaa Khan is a environmental lawyer with the David Suzuki Foundation says New Brunswick needs stricter rules on PFAS. (Francois Genest/Radio-Canada)

New Brunswick's environmental guidelines for the use of industrial byproducts in agricultural soil bans the use of "materials derived from municipal biosolids, which have high levels of pathogens," but does not mention PFAS.

Mooer's response from the environment department Tuesday did not address PFAS either.

In a Feb. 24 letter to a municipal sanitary authority in Maine, obtained by Radio-Canada and CBC News, Casella said the new state legislation had "greatly diminished" the volume of biosolids that its landfill could handle.

That would require 4,000 U.S. tons —the equivalent of 3,600 metric tonnes — to be sent "out of Maine," leading to higher fees to municipal sewage operations, the letter said.

Khan says in Canada, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency regulates the use of biosolids on agricultural land growing food for human consumption, but its criteria do not cover PFAS. 

Provinces have the jurisdiction to regulate biosolids through environmental guidelines, she adds.

"It's incumbent on every province to ensure its biosolid regulations are up to date."

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Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

With files from Maude Montembeault, Radio-Canada

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How dumb is Higgy? 
 
 
Eddy Jay
Dump it on Higgys front lawn. 
 
 
Eddy Jay
So NB proclaims surplus of cash and now a surplus of sh^te. 
 
 
Fred Brewer
Oh crap!  
 
 
 
Ian Richard 
This "moratorium" is causing a lot of constipations among the folks in Maine. They are going to sue NB in The International Court of Justice in The Hague.  
 
 
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Try reading the article first please. There is no moratorium in NB and with Higgy at the helm I doubt there ever will be.  
 
 
 
 

U.S. company says sludge shipments to New Brunswick bought it time during 'crisis'

Maine landfill operator says ‘math doesn’t work’ on chemical concerns

Officials from Casella Waste Systems said the PFAS — perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances — detected in Maine soil do not appear to come from biosolids in landfills like the one the company operates.

"It's notable that there are absolutely lot of lands within Maine that were impacted by PFAS," Casella's director of organic solutions Patrick Ellis told a committee at the Maine State Legislature this week.

"But it appears very evident that those impacts were from industrial impacted materials, industrial input being an active user of PFAS."

A man smiling in front of a background of greenery Casella’s director of organic solutions Patrick Ellis said he did not believe municipal biosolids were the source of the PFAS that triggered such alarm in Maine. (North East Biosolids and Residuals Association website)

The presence in Maine farm soil of the chemicals, which are linked by U.S. regulators to various health risks, led to a state law banning the use of biosolids from landfills as fertilizer for agricultural crops. 

That in turn has contributed to a surplus of the sludge at Casella's Juniper Ridge landfill north of Bangor, forcing the company to truck thousands of tonnes of it to New Brunswick.

Envirem Organics, the company receiving the sludge, said this week it was "very selective" in what it accepts and has adopted even more stringent standards than what the New Brunswick government applies.

The math doesn't work to create PFAS levels in the soil that are that high.
-Patrick Ellis, Casella's director of organic solutions

The province's guidelines for biosolids do not include PFAS in their criteria.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency says exposure to certain levels of PFAS, or perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances, have been linked by peer-reviewed studies to some cancers, decreased fertility, low birth weights and other effects. 

PFAS are chemicals used to make coatings that resist heat, oil and water and can be found in adhesives, packaging and non-stick cooking surfaces among other places. They do not break down and can accumulate.

A tall legislature building surrounded by trees Casella’s director of organic solutions addressed a committee at the Maine State Legislature this week. (CBC)

Ellis said he did not believe municipal biosolids were the source of the PFAS that triggered such alarm in Maine.

Chemical levels in the soil were measured in parts per million, while the amounts in municipal biosolids handled by Casella were at the low end of parts per billion.

"The math doesn't work to create PFAS levels in the soil that are that high," he said.

Not a long-term solution

Ellis told the committee that Casella urged Envirem to notify New Brunswick provincial regulators "to let them know what was coming and so far things are going pretty well."

But he said the shipments are not a long-term solution because New Brunswick could still impose a moratorium on biosolid imports for agriculture, as Quebec did last week. 

"We have tried to be optimistic that it will not," he said, but that uncertainty is why Casella continues to look for other ways to avoid a surplus of sludge at its landfill near Bangor.

"We are riding the ragged edge of not having sufficient capacity on a daily basis. And that problem came to a head here in Maine a couple of weeks ago," Ellis told members of the Maine legislature's environment and natural resources committee.

A farm field with a large black area. Biosolids, or sludge, seen here in an agricultural field in Quebec. U.S. company Casella Waste Systems had to truck thousands of tonnes of sludge to New Brunswick because of a surplus. (Francois Genest/Radio-Canada)

"Fortunately we were able to avert the crisis but we are by no means out of the woods." 

The Juniper Ridge landfill, owned by the state and operated by Casella, accepts sewage waste from more than 30 municipal-level sewage authorities.

Those local entities are now facing higher fees because of the additional cost of trucking the sludge to New Brunswick.

Envirem said this week none of its products are applied to agricultural lands.

Provincial government spokesperson Anne Mooers said the environment department was notified on Feb. 27 that Envirem would be receiving additional shipments.

"However, it will remain below the volumes it committed to in its environmental impact assessment registration," she said.

A Casella letter to municipal sewage authorities said the company had to move 3,600 tonnes out of the landfill each month. At this week's committee hearing, the company said it needed to find capacity for 2,300 tonnes a month.

Mooers said Envirem has a cap on imports of 100,000 tonnes annually so the Casella shipments fell below that threshold. 

A red transport truck travels a two-lane road which is surrounded by trees.     A Casella letter to municipal sewage authorities said the company had to move 3,600 tonnes out of the landfill each month. At this week’s committee hearing, the company said it needed to find capacity for 2,300 tonnes a month. (Francois Genest/Radio Canada)

Ellis questioned the logic of the Maine ban on agricultural use of sludge, pointing out PFAS are present in materials other than municipal biosolids that are not banned in the state.

He argued PFAS levels in Casella's sludge are not high enough to be a health concern.

"What we have observed is that the activities that we are a part of, with the materials that we manage today, do not negatively impact drinking water sources," he said.

"Science will tell us that the quantity in our materials is going down, and that when used appropriately, they will not negatively impact drinking water sources." 

Sarah Nichols of the Natural Resources Council of Maine said Ellis's claims amount to "misinformation."

"We were aghast by their comments," said Nichols, who attended Wednesday's committee session at the legislature.

She said the presence of PFAS in drinking water is a completely separate issue from the soil contamination that prompted the ban.

Several members of the committee also pushed back at Casella. 

The ban "was necessary legislation," said Republican representative Mike Soboleski. "We can't knock it. We had to have it. We couldn't keep putting that stuff on the ground." 

A head and shoulders shot of a woman wearing dangly silver earrings Maine’s environmental protection commissioner Melanie Loyzim told the committee the state government is also trying to find new sources of oversized bulk waste for the landfill that would allow Casella to keep more sludge at that site. (Maine government website)

A second Maine law adopted last year bans the import into the state of so-called oversized bulk waste — large, solid debris that, when mixed with sludge, would allow it to remain at the Juniper Ridge landfill without risk of leaks or runoff.

Ellis said Casella warned the state last year that the bill "was going to have clear impacts, likely dramatic impacts, on our ability to manage biosolids that we are contractually obligated to manage." 

He said the company is looking at other options including shipping biosolids by rail to a facility in western Pennsylvania. 

The shipments to New Brunswick bought it some time to explore those alternatives, he said.

Maine's environmental protection commissioner Melanie Loyzim told the committee the state government is also trying to find new sources of oversized bulk waste for the landfill that would allow Casella to keep more sludge at that site.

Her office is also hoping to develop a plan "very quickly" for a new landfill for sludge but said she wouldn't be able to present it to the committee until January 2024.

The state is also examining programs to reduce PFAS getting into waste in the first place.

"The more of the PFAS coming into our waste stream that we can have not enter the waste, the less and less concern we would need to have about the constituents in our sludge."

Nichols, who campaigned for the ban on oversized bulk waste imports to Maine, said a solution needs to be found within the state.

"We do not want our waste shipped to other areas at all," she said. "We do not want to see it going to New Brunswick."

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Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Who's behind Canada's new pulp-and-paper powerhouse, and where's the money coming from?

Paper Excellence is Canada's biggest pulp producer and one of its biggest lumber suppliers

After 15 years of buying up Canadian pulp, paper and lumber mills, Paper Excellence is now the largest producer of paper pulp in the country, with about 20 per cent of all mill capacity — 50 per cent bigger than its closest rival, Canfor, according to data from pulp-market analysts TTOBMA.

But for such a major player, Paper Excellence is remarkably quiet about the inner workings of its business.

Who exactly runs the company? Who is Jackson Wijaya, the elusive founder and CEO? How did it come into the billions of dollars to fund its acquisitions, and what does it plan to do with nearly 22 million hectares of Canadian forest it now manages — an area four times the size of Nova Scotia?

The answers are hugely important for one of Canada's most iconic natural resources, its immense tracts of forest.

For Paper Excellence, the story is straightforward.

"Jackson Wijaya established Paper Excellence … with a dream to build a strong business in the pulp and paper industry in the Americas and Europe," the company said in a statement to CBC and five other media outlets last week. "His goal has been, and is, to create and develop a healthy and sustainable business."

But a months-long investigation by CBC News, in collaboration with Canadian and international media partners as part of a wider look at the global forestry industry by 40 media outlets under the umbrella of the Washington-based International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, has found that the reality and the rhetoric often don't align.

The people behind or associated with Paper Excellence appear to have a pattern of using thickets of corporations, including in tax havens, effectively shielding transactions and assets from public and government scrutiny.

The company won't open up about its past financing, some of which was facilitated by the China Development Bank, which is owned by the Chinese government.

CBC's investigation also found leaked records and insider accounts that show that Paper Excellence, at least until a few years ago, appears to have been closely — and secretly — co-ordinating business and strategy decisions with Asia Pulp & Paper, one of the world's biggest pulp-and-paper players, which has a track record of environmental destruction.

"It's not normal for a company that has such a huge impact on such a vast area of forests, which goes to the heart of Canadian identity in so many ways … that a company with such impact wouldn't have transparency," said Shane Moffatt, head of the nature and food campaign with Greenpeace Canada.

Deforestation concerns

Ask Greenpeace or any of a dozen environmental groups why they're concerned about Paper Excellence, and they link it immediately to a conglomerate called Sinar Mas. Owned and run by a billionaire Indonesian family of Chinese origin — the Wijayas — the family has interests in palm oil, real estate, financial services and a controlling stake in Asia Pulp & Paper (APP).

Sinar Mas and its subsidiaries have been the target of environmental advocacy groups for years. There have been reports of tropical rainforest clearing, peatland destruction and "extensive ties" to companies linked to fires and deforestation in Indonesia.

In 2007, APP lost its sustainability certification from the Forest Stewardship Council "because of substantial, publicly available information that APP was involved in destructive forestry practices," the FSC said. It has never regained it.

An aerial view of stacks of timber is shown, with three green trucks lined up at the top of the frame. Stacks of timber are shown during an aerial tour of the Sumatran Forest with Greenpeace and South Sumatra Gov. Alex Noerdin in this 2010 file photo. The land is owned by PT.Rimba Hutani Mas, part of the Sinar Mas Group that owns Asia Pulp & Paper Co. (Ulet Ifansasti/Getty Images)

And that's where it gets tricky. Paper Excellence's official founder and CEO, Jackson Wijaya, is the grandson of the tycoon who created Sinar Mas in the 1960s. Over his life, Wijaya has held numerous positions with Sinar Mas, including as a director of an APP China holding company and of offshore corporations set up in the tax haven of Barbados. 

In return, he's benefited from his family's wealth and financial connections.

The first Canadian mill acquired, in Meadow Lake, Sask., in 2007, operated under the Sinar Mas banner for several years; the mill's website said it had been purchased by an Indonesia-based company. In 2008, Paper Excellence was incorporated in the Netherlands. The next year, it was still a fledgling company, yet it received a $17-million US loan at near-zero interest from family-owned Bank International Ningbo.

Now, 16 years later, Paper Excellence insists there are no ties between the two sides. 

"Paper Excellence is owned solely by Jackson Wijaya and is completely independent from Asia Pulp & Paper," it said in a statement to CBC and its media partners last week. "Nobody other than Jackson has ever been or is the ultimate owner or controller of any of the companies in Paper Excellence."

Two men smile and pose for a portrait while holding an oversized novelty cheque. Jackson Wijaya, right, is seen with Brazilian politician Eduardo Bolsonaro in this image sent out via Twitter on July 30, 2019. (BolsonaroSP/Twitter)

That air of independence is important to its business. Most of Paper Excellence's operations have some kind of FSC certification, which enables a pulp-and-paper company to command higher prices for its output and attract environmentally conscious brands as clients. But if it were shown to be a branch of the disqualified APP, Paper Excellence could put its certification at risk.

The company's claims of independence are also impossible to verify. Paper Excellence is a private corporation, and despite saying it's Canadian-based, its ownership chain actually traces through companies set up in the Netherlands, Malaysia, the Malaysian offshore jurisdiction of Labuan and two shell companies in the British Virgin Islands.

CBC and its media partners — including Glacier Media in B.C., the Halifax Examiner, Radio France and the French newspaper Le Monde — twice asked Paper Excellence to provide some kind of proof of who really owns it. The company did not.

Leaked records show close collaboration 

Behind the scenes, though, there is evidence that Paper Excellence and Asia Pulp & Paper have worked cheek-by-jowl on everything from regulatory submissions to supply and pricing, at least until a few years ago.

Emails and internal company documents first obtained by the Halifax Examiner show there was close co-operation between APP staff in China and Paper Excellence personnel. The emails span a relatively short time in the late 2010s and are not necessarily indicative of Paper Excellence's or APP's practices today.

In 2017, for instance, Paper Excellence's Vancouver-based sales executive Edwin Widjaja emailed a vice-president at APP in China, asking for info on how much he should charge a potential client for a kind of wood pulp known as unbleached kraft, or UKP.

The reply came quickly, in the form of a directive. "Right now, don't sell any UKP to non-sister mills," the APP executive wrote. "Keep them in your warehouse first while we decide in a couple of days on what to do.… As for 2018, please don't commit to any long-term contracts till we get our UKP study done." 

The next year, a sales executive for Paper Excellence's two mills in France had an email exchange with the same APP vice-president in China, also about unbleached kraft. The VP asked for a monthly breakdown of how much one of the French mills was going to produce, and "then we can plan ahead of time how to introduce this new pulp to our customers."

The exchanges blur the line between corporate entities that are supposedly independent — a red flag, according to Ottawa-based competition expert Keldon Bester.

"That kind of language is red meat for antitrust enforcers," he said. "What are you really not supposed to talk to your competitors about? Pricing, quantity and distribution."

The cut ends of stacks of cedar planks, marked with the number 16, are shown. Cedar planks are stacked at a lumber yard in Montreal in this 2017 file photo. On March 1, Paper Excellence closed its latest acquisition: The $2.7-billion US purchase of Quebec-based Resolute Forest Products. (Paul Chiasson/The Canadian Press)

The leaked records were provided to the Halifax Examiner, and later to CBC, by a source who said that Paper Excellence's real nerve centre wasn't in Richmond, B.C., but in Shanghai, in the same offices as APP. The source said that, in fact, Paper Excellence's entire back office at the time — the teams handling legal, accounting, finance and market analysis — was run by APP and there were no boundaries between staff working for one or the other company. 

"APP staff is PE staff. There is no difference there," the source said. 

CBC agreed to protect the source's identity out of concerns for their safety.

The source said, for example, that the sales manager for Paper Excellence's subsidiary in France attended strategy meetings at APP's Shanghai offices, with other APP teams from Asia and Europe. 

"It's extremely nebulous. You never know who's working for who," another former executive at that French subsidiary told CBC's reporting partner Le Monde, on condition of confidentiality because he still works in the industry. 

"I had a direct relationship with the owners of APP. My boss at the time was based in China and our monthly videoconference meetings were held with Teguh Wijaya"— that is, Jackson Wijaya's father and the chairman of APP. 

A man wearing a dark suit, white shirt, blue tie and glasses speaks into a small microphone. Behind him is a large poster with a photo of a tree and the words 'Sustainability Roadmap.' Teguh Ganda Wijaya, chairman of Asia Pulp & Paper, speaks during a ceremony in Jakarta in this 2013 file photo. Paper Excellence is owned by Wijaya's son, Jackson. (Adek Berry/AFP via Getty Images)

But an employee who worked for APP for nearly a decade said that didn't reflect his experience, which was that APP and Paper Excellence were "pretty well siloed."

However, records show APP employees seem to have handled important Paper Excellence business outright. APP's outside lawyers and in-house legal department stickhandled submissions to Chinese antitrust authorities when Paper Excellence wanted to buy the Eldorado pulp mill in south central Brazil; ironically, the drafts even went so far as to list APP as a Paper Excellence competitor.

Paper Excellence did not respond to our inquiries about the above allegations. 

APP said any suggestion its staff have worked on behalf of or alongside Paper Excellence is wrong. "APP has not shared confidential information with Paper Excellence. Nor have its employees engaged in any work with Paper Excellence," the company said in response to questions from CBC and its media partners.

Paper Excellence continued its buying spree and swallowed B.C.-based Catalyst Paper in 2019 for an undisclosed price. That was followed by the purchase of the Quebec-American company Domtar in 2021 for $3 billion US. The most recent acquisition is the $2.7-billion US purchase of Quebec-based Resolute Forest Products, completed on March 1. Canada's Competition Bureau for the most part granted its blessing. 

Bester said the Competition Bureau's process doesn't provide much opportunity for the public to know what a company did — or didn't — disclose. 

"If the bureau has been misled or things have been omitted that are relevant to the competition analysis, the bureau would be extremely interested in that. So we can't say for sure because we don't know what they were and were not provided with."

Mystery of money from China

It takes billions of dollars to build a new, world-class pulp mill. Paper Excellence's expansion in Canada deliberately took a different tack. Its earliest acquisitions — initially under the Sinar Mas banner, and later in its own name — were older, often shuttered or insolvent mills in B.C. and Saskatchewan. 

But then there were costs for upgrades and repairs. Employees had to be hired. And the company's ambitions grew. 

By 2012, Paper Excellence sought big financing. And it came in the form of credit — $1.25 billion US worth — through a Chinese government-owned bank.

CBC's investigation has revealed that the China Development Bank had mortgages with a debenture for that amount on three Canadian pulp mills owned by Paper Excellence starting in August 2012 as part of the security for financing that was repayable on demand.

Paper Excellence would not answer questions about how much of that credit it drew on, nor why it sought financing through a Chinese government-owned bank. 

Three flags fly outside an office building, including on Chinese national flag and two white flags bearing the logo of the China Development Bank. The flags for the China Development Bank are flown outside a subsidiary branch office of the bank in Beijing on Jan. 8, 2021. (Ng Han Guan/The Associated Press)

The loan was typical of many of the bank's investments at the time, said Rebecca Ray, a senior academic researcher at Boston University's Global Development Policy Center who studies development finance, including the China Development Bank.

"The kind of very large-scale financing that you were talking about in 2012 for raw commodity production, that comes as no surprise to me in that that's exactly the same kind of financing in those years that we see to major commodity producers around the world … as China is establishing the supply chains that it needs to support its new cities."

The discharge of the loan also corresponds to a time frame when the China Development Bank was pulling back from large loans to natural resource companies in favour of the government's new policy of smaller, more strategic lending, she said.

The mortgages on the Meadow Lake, Mackenzie and Howe Sound mills were discharged over the course of 2020 and replaced with loans from two Indonesian government-owned banks, Bank Mandiri and Bank Negara Indonesia, who now hold those amounts also repayable on demand.

The financing to Paper Excellence is the only time the China Development Bank or the Indonesian banks have registered any mortgages in British Columbia, the province's land records show.

The company didn't directly answer why it chose to finance in this way. "Paper Excellence constantly reviews market conditions and market circumstances in determining its financing strategies/options," the company said last week.

"To see that one of the biggest forestry players on Crown land in eastern Canada is an Indonesian giant, formerly financed by China, is not reassuring to us. We do not want to plunder our forests here in Quebec," said Daniel Cloutier, executive director of the Unifor local that represents unionized workers at Resolute and Domtar.

A factory building is seen, set beside a river. The Domtar paper mill in Espanola, Ont. Paper Excellence purchased the Quebec-American company Domtar in 2021 for $3 billion US. (Erik White/CBC )

Lumber and forestry have long been of interest to China, and the China Development Bank often plays a key role in advancing the country's goals, says Margaret McCuaig-Johnston, a former top official in the federal government's Industry and Natural Resources departments, and an expert on China.

"It's often one of the first organizations in the door when China wants to enter a market and acquire resources in another country," McCuaig-Johnston said. 

"So, in the form of a loan, that doesn't seem too difficult or too threatening to a government. But very often, that will then morph into other arrangements. And so it's where you actually get control by a Chinese company or Chinese interests that you really run into problems."

McCuaig-Johnston said companies owned by foreign interests with Chinese partners could decide to export its production to China and Indonesia.

"The reason Canadians should care is that we have seen in China's behaviour in other resource companies that they will often export all of the product to China for China's own use," she said. "Canada needs its own products from its own natural resources and we need to be assured that we will have access to that."

That's a sentiment echoed by Cloutier. 

"China has a voracious appetite for kraft pulp and in Quebec we're barely self-sufficient. What are they up to? Is their goal to get their supply from us? What impact is this going to have on our own needs?"


Elizabeth Thompson can be reached at elizabeth.thompson@cbc.ca. Zach Dubinsky can be reached at zach.dubinsky@cbc.ca.

With files from Kate Zieman, Olivier Bourque and Stephanie Matteis

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1996 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos
Methinks the Halifax Examiner should check all the leaked records that were provided to them over the years N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
Jimmy Chan  

Who is behind the election interference actions and who benefited is a much more important question. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Jimmy Chan  
Go Figure and while you are at check out the Chinese land purchases on PEI 
 
 
 
 
 
Jimmy Chan
The article suggests chinese influence in the extraction of Canadian resources. The overarching narrative that needs investigation is how influencing Canadian elections with the current liberal government helps set the stage for resource intrusion. This does not look good and appears to be an organized endeavor starting the top.
 
 
Paula Carr 
Reply to Jimmy Chan  
The Harper government gave Chinese investors “market access” to Canada — meaning a right to buy what they want in our economy — without getting the same for Canadian investors in China. Look it up - lots of info out there.    
 
 
Tom Campbell 
Reply to Jimmy Chan 
The FIPA that Harper drew up had more to do with this than the current administration.
 
 
Mort Sinclair 
Reply to Jimmy Chan 
You're blaming the wrong government. You need to go back to the Harper years, my friend. He invited them in.  
 
 
GARY MAJOR 
Reply toTom Campbell 
Then why did junior renew it in may 2020? 
 
 
Tom Campbell 
Reply to GARY MAJOR  
He had to or we could be sued. You can't opt out of trade agreements that easily. There could be consequences. 
 
 
GARY MAJOR 
Reply toTom Campbell 
No he did not "Have too"!
 
 
Jimmy Chan
Reply toPaula Carr 
The blame Harper syndrome lol 

 
David Amos
Reply to Jimmy Chan
I blame all of them  
 
 
 
 
 
Ralph Kramden   
Want those millions of Canadian lands back into Canadian hands?

Find 1(one) false claim or statement or illegal act from P Ex and presto...all deals are off.

With the right judge.

 
Mort Sinclair 
Reply to Ralph Kramden
Agreed. I can't believe at this point, after the fine investigative work done here by the Consortium, and amazing investigative organization that has done fabulous work, that the deal can't be broken based on PE's lack of transparency and good faith.  
 
 
Ralph Kramden
Reply to Mort Sinclair 
If this was a Canadian owned company the govt would be all over them. 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Ralph Kramden
Dream On
 
 
 
 
Paul Edmonton 
Same with the real estate market,Canada is sold, lots of the elite Canadians profit from it, just as the tax havens. Politicians talk about it, but are in it too… 
 
 
David Amos 
Reply to Paul Edmonton 
Oh so true
 
 
 
 
David Sampson  
Allowing China to own large parcels of our economy as Harper/Trudeau have done is akin to letting the Italian mob into your life. It looks great until it doesn’t!  
 
 
Van Collins 
Reply to David Sampson  
It's not like Canada doesn't get it's cut, regardless of who owns these mills.

Nobody buys the very expensive 'made in Canada' furniture.

They buy the cheap stuff from China.

We've done this to ourselves, and continue to do so with every purchase.

 
David Amos 
Reply to David Sampson  
C'est Vrai
 
 
 
 
 
 
Bill Dixon  
Once again, Canada's Competition Bureau is shown to be a charade, and an organization that pretty much rubber stamps anti-competitive behaviour involving single companies buying up and taking over huge amounts of production or services in individual sectors in Canada.

Parliament needs to rewrite our competition laws, and the elected government needs to fire everyone involved in executive management at the Competition Bureau and make it crystal clear to their replacements that their jobs are to protect Canadians from companies and their leaders who want to engage in anti-competitive behaviour to enhance either profits or control over Canada's natural resources.

 
Zach weyrauch 
Reply to Bill Dixon 
I made a post about our small population elsewhere but that's part of the issue here too. Its not difficult to use foreign money to influence the few people in the way of foreign business expansion. In China or the US though finding those people is difficult and if you approach the wrong one you could suffer consequences.... there's no chance anyone makes that mistake in Canada. We all know the guy in our town that pushes the paper.... foriegn money can find out pretty easy too. 
 
 
David Amos  
 
Reply to Bill Dixon  
Canada's Competition Bureau has always been a joke to me   
 
 
 
 
 
Zach weyrauch 
The more we pretend to be a player in global economics the more we will get taken advantage of. We are a large nation with the population of a small nation.

It wouldn't be hard to police every deal that gets made in corporate hands. Instead we maintain some form of corporate right to secrecy so that the large money finds our state appealing. Soon this sacrifice will cost something we all don't want it to. 

 
Mort Sinclair 
Reply to Zach weyrauch 
Agreed.
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to Mort Sinclair 
Ditto
 
 
 
 

Canada, home to a massive boreal forest, lobbied to limit U.S., EU anti-deforestation bills

Canada's boreal forest covers 270 million hectares, spanning from Yukon through to N.L.

Jennifer Skene, natural climate solutions policy manager for the Washington-based Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), accuses the Canadian government of a "very aggressive" lobbying campaign against the inclusion of the boreal forest in New York and California deforestation-free procurement bills.

In the original drafts, the bills would have prevented those states from buying products that are tied to deforestation or forest degradation from boreal or tropical forests directly or through their supply chains.

But Skene said, "Canada has been trying to remove itself from those same sustainability thresholds."

Canada's boreal forest stretches from Newfoundland and Labrador to northeastern British Columbia and the Yukon, and covers 270 million hectares. It is a major carbon sink and provides important habitat for tens of millions of migratory birds and endangered species, such as caribou and grizzly bears.

An aeriel view of a forest, with a small river cutting through the centre.     A section of boreal forest is shown near Whitecourt, Alta. (David Bajer/CBC)

Elijah Reichlin-Melnick, a former New York state senator and co-sponsor of the New York Deforestation-Free Procurement Act, says he was lobbied by Canadian officials who argued that Canada's forestry is sustainable and Canada should not be included in the bill.

He remembers hearing repeatedly from the federal and provincial governments, who felt the bill "was targeting Canada and targeting the lumber industry there and, you know, that they were already sustainable enough and so there was no need for it."

Reichlin-Melnick disagrees.

CBC News obtained letters from the Alberta premier at the time, Jason Kenney, and Alberta Minister of Agriculture and Forestry Devin Dreeshen indicating the type of lobbying Reichlin-Melnick describes.

For example, in a letter dated May 20, 2022, Kenney wrote the governor of New York with "deep concern" that if the bill passed, it would create "an unjustified, non-tariff barrier to Canadian forest products and forest risk commodities, and threaten jobs and supply chains of sustainably sourced products."

Kenney noted Canada has "world-leading sustainable forest management practices" with a "framework that prevents forest degradation and deforestation, as defined by the United Nations."

According to the journal Science Advances, published in 2017, Canada ranks third globally for intact forest loss, behind only Russia and Brazil.

Skene says Canada clear cuts hundreds of thousands of hectares of boreal annually.

"Much of this is in irreplaceable, uniquely carbon-rich and biodiverse primary forests — forests that, once they're clear cut, can never be replaced," she said. "Canada is selling off its forests to the highest logging bidder."

A woman wearing a red blouse is shown seated in front of a white office shelf. Jennifer Skene is the natural climate solutions policy manager for the Washington-based Natural Resources Defense Council. (CBC)

It is notable that Canada is engaging in this way, she said, "even as it's calling for countries like Brazil and Indonesia to implement these same safeguards against deforestation and forest degradation."

"Canada has been positioning itself as a world leader on sustainability, and that's really very much been a green veneer on top of what is really devastating practices on the ground."

What did the governments write?

On March 23, 2021, New York State Sen. Liz Krueger and Assembly Member Kenneth Zebrowski introduced the New York Deforestation-Free Procurement Act.

In a letter dated April 21, 2021, former Ontario minister of Natural Resources and Forestry John Yakabuski wrote Reichlin-Melnick, chairman of the committee of procurement and contracts, asking for an amendment to the bill to remove references to boreal forests.

Yakabuski wrote that the bill "does not consider Ontario's world-class sustainable forest management practices, which specifically prevent forest degradation or deforestation of the boreal forest."

A piece on heavy equipment is shown loaded down with cut logs, parked in a snow-covered forest. Freshly cut logs are shown in a tract of boreal forest near Chapleau, Ont. According to research from 2017, Canada ranks third globally for intact forest loss, behind only Russia and Brazil. (Sylvène Gilchrist/CBC)

Khawar Nasim, then-acting consul general of Canada to New York, wrote on April 25, 2022: "New York is including its most responsible and reliable supplier of forest products in a bill best directed at others."

"Canada has exceptional forest management and shares New York's commitment to a green, sustainable future. We are concerned that the inclusion of Canada in these bills is misguided and a risk to our shared prosperity."

When it was reintroduced into the New York Senate on Feb. 15, 2023, the bill was renamed the New York Tropical Deforestation-Free Procurement Act and made no mention of boreal forests. 

New York State Sen. Jeremy Cooney, a co-sponsor of the bill, told CBC News that there was a significant lobbying effort from the Canadian government directly. 

"When we learned that almost 1.6 billion in Canadian dollars was derived and generated from sales of wood, pulp and paper just in New York state alone, it really opened my eyes to say this is a significant change or would be a significant change in that trading relationship."

A man white a blue suit, white shirt and red tie sits in an above, with blue wallpaper and a shelf displaying framed photos in the background. New York State Sen. Jeremy Cooney says there was a significant lobbying effort from the Canadian government. (CBC)

Reichlin-Melnick says the only reason boreal would have been taken out of the bill was lobbying efforts by Canadian officials. He says they didn't hear from other countries, like Russia, Sweden, Norway or Finland, which also have boreal forests.

No 'viable path' forward: U.S. senator

Reichlin-Melnick says Canada wouldn't have been affected by the bill if Canada was logging sustainably. 

The provincial and federal governments "really did feel that it was targeting Canada in some way and that … we should limit it specifically to tropical rainforest, which was where the bad actors were, in the Third World," he said.

State Sen. Liz Krueger, who re-introduced the bill as the New York Tropical Deforestation-Free Procurement Act, told CBC News in a statement: "The science is clear that forest degradation through ongoing clear cutting of primary boreal forest is a significant contributor to the dual global crises of climate change and biodiversity loss."

But she couldn't find a "viable path forward for this legislation to include boreal forests" and that focusing on tropical deforestation was a way of addressing supply chain issues and "will help catalyze more global action and accountability on the loss of climate-critical forests."

Stacks of snow-covered logs are shown outdoors.  Cut logs are seen about 40 kilometres north of the Chapleau Cree band office. (Sylvène Gilchrist/CBC)

Dropping boreal forest from the bill was a missed opportunity, says Reichlin-Melnick. He says New York is one of the 10 largest economies in the world, and with that kind of economic leverage, this bill could help tackle climate change and stop deforestation.

He says boreal forests were included in the bill because they are one of the largest intact forests in the world.

Chief Keith Corston, of Chapleau Cree First Nation, says the boreal in northern Ontario is at a tipping point, and if steps aren't taken, there will be no boreal forest left within 30 years. He disagreed that Canada has world-class sustainable forest management practices.

"They are basically raping and plundering the resources on the land. They use words like 'sustainable forest.' It's not sustainable."

The case of California

Skene says Canada did something similar with the California Deforestation-Free Procurement Act in 2021.

At the time, Yves Beaulieu was the consul at the Consulate General of Canada in San Francisco. In a letter to the chair of the California Assembly accountability and administrative review committee, Beaulieu pointed out that "Canada and California have long-standing forest sector supply chains and other links that support jobs and economic security on both sides of the border."

A version of the California Deforestation-Free Procurement Act with the word boreal in it passed the California assembly on April 28, 2021.

On June 15, 2021, the governments of Quebec, Ontario, Alberta and B.C. wrote to Bill Dodd, the chair of the Senate standing committee on governmental organization, asking that the bill be amended to remove references to boreal.

On July 6, 2021, boreal was removed from the bill, which then only referred to tropical forests.

It passed the Senate, but Gov. Gavin Newsom vetoed it on Oct. 5, 2021.

Skene says Canada industrially logs the boreal and undermines policies to protect the forest, while it continues to brand itself as a leader on natural climate solutions. She points to the government's two billion tree program on forest restoration as an example.

"All of that is sort of a distraction from what is the most immediate and sweeping issue, which is the fact that they are eroding some of the world's last primary forests; they're liquidating them and turning them into products like toilet paper and biomass."

WATCH | The international push to stop Canadian boreal deforestation:

The international push to stop Canadian boreal deforestation

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Canada touts its logging industry as one of the world’s greenest, but behind the scenes, government and industry have been lobbying furiously to stop foreign attempts to protect the boreal forest.

Skene says Canada also lobbied to weaken a European Union regulation that bans the sale of products in the EU that are linked to forest degradation and deforestation.

In a letter obtained by CBC News, Canada's Ambassador to the European Union, Dr. Ailish Campbell, wrote to European policymakers, urging them to delay a key provision of the regulation, arguing that there was no accepted definition of degradation.

The regulation was approved on Dec. 21, 2022, and requires the traceability of products from seven commodities to ensure sustainability: palm oil, soy, coffee, beef, rubber, cocoa and wood.

In a statement to CBC News, the Forest Products Association of Canada (FPAC) says that attempts to target products sourced from the boreal are misguided, and should be aimed at tropical forests.

Canada is selling off its forests to the highest logging bidder.​​​​​​
- Jennifer Skene, with the Natural Resources Defense Council

"While well intentioned, the New York bill was misguided in falsely equating Canada's rigorous forest management laws with jurisdictions where there is much less scrutiny over forest operations. During the last 30 years, 90 per cent of global deforestation occurred in the tropics, so it makes sense that procurement policies aimed at preventing deforestation would focus on tropical forests."

The FPAC also wrote that the changes made in the bills reflected concerns raised by both Canadian and U.S. businesses.

Suing the province

On Sept. 30, 2022, Chapleau Cree, Missanabie Cree and Brunswick House First Nations launched legal action against the province of Ontario to stop degradation of the boreal forest in their traditional territories within Treaty 9, and to protect their way of life, livelihoods and well-being. 

The lawsuit claims that the "cumulative impacts from a range of provincially authorized uses including forestry, mining, agriculture, energy, transportation and settlement in their traditional territories has had significant adverse impacts on the health of the boreal as well as on their treaty and aboriginal rights." 

Chief Corston was raised in the middle of the boreal — a green ribbon of jack pine, black and white spruce, balsam fir, white birch, trembling aspen, balsam and poplar — that covers two-thirds of Ontario.

A man wearing a grey cap, black T-shirt and jacket, and a beaded necklace gestures as he speaks. Chief Keith Corston, of Chapleau Cree First Nation, says Canada's boreal is at a tipping point, and if steps aren’t taken, there will be no boreal forest left within 30 years. (CBC)

He says logging companies clear cut up to 10,000 hectares, and then replant with only the species the industry wants, like jack pine and spruce. The land is then sprayed with glyphosate herbicide, to prevent leafy trees from growing.

He says this is converting the boreal into fibre farms. "They don't want a sustainable forest, they don't want the boreal as much as they say they do. They want a tree farm."

Corston says clear cutting and spraying creates a monoculture. 

"There's no more grey jays, whiskey jacks. You'll hear nothing. Soundless. Not a bird. You might hear the odd raven. You know, that's it. You go into a natural forest here — chirp, chirp, chirp. There's all kinds of noise, but that part is dead."

Corston says fur-bearing animals like fisher and marten are suffering and the moose population has declined by 50 per cent in the last decade. He says the logging industry wants to get rid of all the leafy trees, like poplar, that moose rely on as a food source.

"It is incidental to [the forestry industry]. I have a problem with that. It's not incidental. You must remember that the boreal forest is made up of many species. That's why it's a boreal forest and everything relies on the other."

Corston also says the industry only thinks about short-term gain.

"We're trying to think seven generations ahead. I think about my kids, my grandkids. If we don't do something about this, there will be nothing. Our way of life will be gone."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Lynette Fortune is a producer with The Fifth Estate.

With files from Jonathon Gatehouse

 
 
 

After 42 years, Irving Oil property tax exemption comes to mysterious end

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Company, N.B. government won't say what killed tax exemption at Canaport oil tank farm

The Department of Finance referred questions about the change to Service New Brunswick, but Service New Brunswick said it cannot comment on what happened.

"We are unable to discuss individual accounts," Jennifer Vienneau, Service New Brunswick's director of communications, wrote in an email about the terminal's new tax status.

Vienneau said information about a change in the oil terminal's tax treatment would have to come from the "property owner." 

Irving Oil, however, did not respond to a request for information.

The revoked tax exemption is related to Canaport, a large crude-oil tank farm owned by Irving Oil on Mispec Point, at the edge of the Bay of Fundy.  

An older man speaking at a stand outdoors. The stand has a microphone on it and the front has a logo that says "Irving." There is a large boat in the background. Arthur Irving was the 51-year-old head of Irving Oil when the company won a property tax exemption on its crude-oil tank farm in 1981 to help with a temporary crisis. He'll be 93 this year and the exemption is still on the province's books. (CBC)

The facility has a storage capacity of six million barrels and supplies Irving Oil's Saint John refinery from shipments it receives from ocean-going tankers that arrive from around the world multiple times every month. 

The tank farm and related infrastructure cover 430 hectares of land and sea floor in the east end of the city and is assessed for taxes by Service New Brunswick to be worth $30.2 million. 

It has always had to pay full municipal property taxes to Saint John, but since 1981 it has been one of a handful of New Brunswick business properties exempt from paying any provincial property tax. 

Response to oil crisis

The concession was granted by the former government of Richard Hatfield to help Irving Oil weather the 1979 oil crisis that saw crude prices spike and North American demand for petroleum products crater in response.

The oil crisis eventually passed and consumer demand returned, but the New Brunswick tax concession has continued on decades later.

In its most recent annual tax expenditure report, New Brunswick's Department of Finance valued the exemption in 2021 to be worth $674,929. Over 42 years it has saved Irving Oil more than $20 million in property tax on the location.

The "objective" of the exemption, according to the Department of Finance, is "to support the competitiveness of infrastructure that is important to economic development."

An older man with a furrowed brow standing in front of a New Brunswick flag and a Canada flag.   As opposition leader in 2016, Blaine Higgs said he supported reviewing the provincial property tax exemption granted to Irving Oil's Canaport crude-oil tank farm and cancelling it if it had outlived its usefulness. (CBC)

But according to updated New Brunswick property records, the crude-oil tank farm has been switched from its longtime status as "provincial rate excluded" to "fully taxable" for 2023.

Although declining to comment on what caused the change, Vienneau did confirm that the exemption has not been cancelled by the province.

"There have been no changes," she said, about whether the exemption has been removed from legislation or altered in some way.

That means the tax change has been caused by another issue. Potentially, that could be the sale of unrefined crude by Irving Oil.

According to the exact wording of the tax exemption statute in the Assessment Act, it requires all of the oil arriving at the Canaport tank farm to be sent to the refinery for processing to qualify for tax-free treatment.

"Provincial taxes or rates shall not be … levied on crude oil storage tanks connected with an oil refinery … when such crude oil storage tanks … are used solely for supplying crude oil to the oil refinery for the sole purpose of manufacturing or producing petroleum products," the statute reads.

Irving Oil does not solely use crude oil to process at the refinery.

On its website, the company advertises that in addition to refined products, it also sells and ships unprocessed crude oil to large-volume customers who place orders of "50,000 barrels" or more.

"Talk with one of our expert advisors about crude oil for your business," says the company's website. 

It is not certain if reselling crude oil, rather than processing it, would be enough to cancel the property tax exemption.  Neither the company nor the province will say.

A man speaking into a microphone in front of a group of people holding green signs.Green Party Leader David Coon campaigned on ending Irving Oil's crude-oil tank farm property tax exemption in the 2018 election. He says with the exemption suspended for 2023, the province should take the opportunity to kill it for good. (Sarah Morin/CBC)

In addition, selling unprocessed crude oil does not appear to be a new business venture for Irving Oil and if it cancelled the tax exemption for 2023, it is not clear how it would have survived in earlier years.

The tax exemption has been politically controversial for several years.

In 2016, then-opposition leader Blaine Higgs said the exemption should be reviewed and potentially cancelled, since the crisis it was created to help Irving Oil survive resolved itself in the 1980s.

"A lot of policies in government … start for a good reason, but they never end," Higgs said. 

"There's no exit clause, so it just doesn't hit the radar again."

In 2018, the New Brunswick Green Party put the cancellation of the property tax exemption on crude-oil storage tanks into its election platform.

In an interview, Green Leader David Coon said whatever caused the suspension in this year should be made permanent by removing the exemption from legislation. 

"It never should have been granted in the first place, Coon said.

"The timing couldn't be better to rip the Band-Aid off."

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006.

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David Amos
This article brought back memories of my old man battling the Irving Clan about paying their property taxes way back when I in was in High School in Fat Fred City and he had a corner office in the brand new Centennial Building. 
 
 
 
 
Noel Fowles   
Headline should read:

"After 42 years, mysterious Irving Oil property tax exemption comes to an end"

 
David Amos 
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Too bad so sad you can't check my spelling and grammar 
 
 
Noel Fowles 
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maybe you should look at the word change I made. 
 
 
 
 
David Amos 

Methinks only in New Brunswick could legislation be considered a private matter N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

After more than a decade, why is there still a controversy over the P.E.I. Buddhist community?

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After more than a decade, why is there still a controversy over the P.E.I. Buddhist community?

The story of the Prince Edward Island Buddhist community is practically a piece of 21st century Island folklore.

In the mid-2000s, a Buddhist religious community, with global members from Taiwan to Singapore, set out to find a home to train devout followers in a monastic setting.

They found Kings County, P.E.I., a rural place where farming and care for the land was still woven into the social fabric.

For some locals, however, curiosity soon turned to questions. Why would a group of devout monks and nuns from halfway around the world decide to come to P.E.I.?

Today, depending on who you ask, there are two contradictory stories to tell about P.E.I.’s monastic Buddhist community.

Maybe it’s the story of an immigrant community, loosely connected by a religious group, struggling to establish itself in a rural community, often encountering more nativism than Prince Edward Islanders would like to admit.

Or maybe it’s the story of a wealthy religious group that has taken advantage of P.E.I.’s lax oversight of agricultural land protection, driving up land prices in the process.

It is clear concerns about the two main organizations of the Buddhist community – the Great Wisdom Buddhist Institute (GWBI) for Buddhist nuns and the Great Enlightenment Buddhist Institute Society (GEBIS) for Buddhist monks – have developed into a very real clash in Kings County.

"We felt a lot of kindness and a lot of welcome from the people that we talked to and people we meet," Venerable Joanna Ho, a member of GWBI, told The Guardian in an interview in February 2020.

"But there's this strange discrepancy with what we hear (and) then, through rumours in the media, that people seem to not want us here, not trust us."

Venerables, from left, Yvonne Tsai, Sabrina Chiang and Joanna Ho, three members of Great Wisdom Buddhist Institute (GWBI), stand in front of the Lotus Hall of the GWBI in Brudenell. The three admit the presence of GWBI has raised controversy. - Stu Neatby

Venerables, from left, Yvonne Tsai, Sabrina Chiang and Joanna Ho, three members of Great Wisdom Buddhist Institute (GWBI), stand in front of the Lotus Hall of the GWBI in Brudenell. The three admit the presence of GWBI has raised controversy. - Stu Neatby

If there was any doubt that these feelings were not significant, it was washed away in September 2020, when Three Rivers municipal councillors voted to deny a building permit for a monastic campus and dormitory for GWBI nuns in Brudenell. The campus would have provided enough housing for up to 1,400 Buddhist nuns and would have gone a long way to solving a housing crunch GWBI continues to face. In some cases, GWBI’s 470 nuns are crammed, eight to a room, in locations throughout the province, ranging from a converted farmhouse in Uigg to a former motel in Montague.

There is a debate within GWBI about whether the group should ultimately leave P.E.I. altogether.

The controversy around the Buddhist community is unique and it is not only about immigration. P.E.I. has seen immigrant communities successfully integrate in the past, including the Lebanese community.

To understand the ongoing clash, one needs to understand the internal dynamics of the Taiwanese-based religious movement that gave rise to both GWBI and GEBIS.

One also has to understand the ongoing struggles with ownership of P.E.I.’s most prized resource: farmland.

For all the controversy, the stated goal of GWBI and GEBIS is hard to argue with.

"We're a school that educates monks," Venerable Walter Tsai, who manages outreach and communications for GEBIS, told The Guardian during an interview in late January 2020.

"The mission of GEBIS is to nurture monastics.”

GEBIS runs two monasteries – one site in Heatherdale and one in Little Sands. GEBIS runs an extensive training program for male monks, based in part on the Lam Rim Chen Mo, a foundational 14th-century text of Tibetan Buddhism.

For GWBI, the goal is similar. But the organization’s focus on female postulants makes its presence unique outside of Asia.

Venerable Yvonne Tsai, a board member of GWBI and sister of Venerable Walter Tsai, said the curriculum is a rarity; there are few other options for educational programs for devout female Tibetan Buddhist nuns globally, she said.

Tsai described GWBI’s curriculum as “more like a Harvard in the Buddhist world.”

Like Ivy League institutions, it is not easy to be admitted. Before the pandemic, GWBI accepted about 10 new postulants a year. GEBIS accepted between 20 to 30 new monks per year before 2020.

Due to the denial of the Brudenell building permit, GWBI is once again turning down all new applicants.

The Great Wisdom Buddhist Institute in Brudenell. - Daniel Brown/Local Journalism Initiative Reporter

The Great Wisdom Buddhist Institute in Brudenell. - Daniel Brown/Local Journalism Initiative Reporter

The full curriculum of both organizations is not for the faint of heart; GWBI’s full curriculum takes 17 years to complete. For GEBIS, the curriculum can take 15 years to complete.

Venerable Yvonne estimated around 10 per cent of applicants are accepted into GWBI’s program. Applicants need to demonstrate they want to be a nun, that they want to help others, that they have family support and that they can self-reflect and think critically.

"You cannot come here because your parents told you to," Venerable Yvonne said.

It is no secret lay followers of the groups are often successful. Some are wealthy. Others, like Venerable Joanna Ho and Yvonne Tsai, grew up studying in Western countries. Most have some level of post-secondary education.

"Women that are attracted to coming to our monastery, they really like the curriculum. And generally, it's because our curriculum is very contemplative and logical," Ho said.

Both GWBI and GEBIS have plans to expand their current facilities to one day accommodate more ordained followers. But the experiences of GEBIS differ from that of GWBI.

Venerable Walter said while there are plans to expand the Heatherdale site someday, the group has enough land for its monastery at the moment. Some additional land may be needed for housing for short-term visitors. Due to the pandemic, these visits have been halted.

However, GEBIS is uncertain whether future land purchases will be blocked. Land purchases over five acres require approval by P.E.I.'s executive council under the province's Lands Protection Act.

A 2018 purchase of 20 acres of land, from a local farmer near the Heatherdale site, was rejected by the cabinet of the previous Liberal government. Members of GEBIS still do not know why.

GEBIS was granted a building permit for its ongoing construction at the Heatherdale site.

Venerable Walter said he hopes to see less division in the discussion about landholdings.

“I understand some of the concerns are legitimate, but I also found some of the questions come from misunderstanding,” Venerable Walter told The Guardian this week.

“I do believe GEBIS will benefit P.E.I., from the depth of my heart.”



Timing

Timing may not have been in favour of GWBI and GEBIS. Both groups established themselves in P.E.I. in the late 2000s and mid-2010s, a time when immigration and land ownership were controversial topics.

The Liberal government under Robert Ghiz faced several scandals related to the now-defunct entrepreneurship stream of the Provincial Nominee Program (PNP). PNP essentially became shorthand for political scandal.

Meanwhile, land ownership has been an ongoing controversy. The number of small family farms has been declining on P.E.I. for decades, while larger farming operations have begun consolidating more land.

Additionally, land and housing prices have spiked significantly in recent years.

Three Rivers Mayor Ed MacAulay said all of this has brought about heightened sensitivity about home and land purchases. Many Kings County residents think of their children who have left for work or school.

“I think the fear is that if the jobs come and the careers come, then maybe the kids will come back,” MacAulay said, referring to anxieties he comes across from others in rural parts of Kings County.

Three Rivers mayor Edward MacAulay - SaltWire file

Three Rivers mayor Edward MacAulay - SaltWire file

MacAulay said some people fear that children who have returned during the pandemic may not be able to afford to buy a house in Kings County.

For several years, the National Farmers’ Union (NFU) has been one group that has suggested the two Buddhist groups were circumventing the province’s Lands Protection Act, often comparing them with agricultural corporations like Cavendish Farms.

The Lands Protection Act (LPA), which limits corporate landowners to 3,000 acres of land, is a highly venerated piece of legislation designed to limit the land holdings of both large corporations and non-residents.

Islanders often believe corporations have circumvented the land size limits of the LPA, simply by purchasing farmland using different shell corporations. NFU district director Doug Campbell believes GEBIS and GWBI fall into this pattern.

"Call it whatever you want to call it — a corporation, a religion,” Campbell told The Guardian in November. “It comes down to following the spirit and the intention of the act. And if they're in violation of it then why would they be any different than the Irvings being in violation?"

Dalhousie researcher Jason Ellsworth, who has been studying both GWBI and GEBIS for years, says the controversies about the group are a reflection of ongoing local concerns. And few laws are as fiercely protected as the LPA.

"A lot of the social context of the people on P.E.I. are coming out — those that are protecting organics, those who want to protect farmland, those who want to fight the monopolies,” Ellsworth said.

“It tells us a lot about what's going on on the Island."

The Island Regulatory and Appeals Commission (IRAC) completed an investigation of the landholdings of GEBIS and GWBI in 2018, but the findings were never made public. Based on a publicly searchable database of land purchases, GWBI owns 667 acres of land while GEBIS owns 584 acres.

Why P.E.I.?

One reason for GEBIS and GWBI setting up monasteries in P.E.I. is simple: religious freedom in Canada.

Both GEBIS and GWBI grew out of Fuzhi, also known as Bliss and Wisdom. Bliss and Wisdom claims to have 60,000 followers worldwide, including 2,000 monks and nuns. It is considered to be one of six major “socially engaged” Buddhist organizations in Taiwan. Founded in 1987 by Venerable Jih-Chang, a disciple of the Dalai Lama, the organization took an active role in educational endeavours and social causes, including the promotion of organic agriculture.

Before Jih-Chang’s passing in 2004, he surprised many by appointing a young woman, a lay follower from Mainland China, as the spiritual leader of Bliss and Wisdom. She is known internationally as Master Zhen-Ru or Mary Jin, and currently lives in P.E.I.

Past media stories have reported that after the passing of Master Jih-Chang, Master Zhen-Ru travelled the world in search of a place to establish a monastic school. Singapore was considered for a time.

“She saw Canada as a place that’s open to diversity and religious freedom,” Venerable Dan, a monk from GEBIS, told P.E.I. reporter Lindsay Kyte in a 2018 story in Lion’s Roar magazine.

Master Zhen-Ru, also known as Mary Jin, is the spiritual master of both GWBI and GEBIS. She lives on P.E.I. - Stu Neatby

Master Zhen-Ru, also known as Mary Jin, is the spiritual master of both GWBI and GEBIS. She lives on P.E.I. - Stu Neatby

Another reason involved a desire to have Zhen-Ru close to training centres for devout monks and nuns.

A section of Bliss and Wisdom’s website states that, prior to his passing, Master Jih-Chang had instructed that monastics be under the “personal tutelage” of Master Zhen-Ru. But as Zhen-Ru was a Chinese national, travel to Taiwan was not simple.

“Even though legislation has loosened recently, it is however still very difficult for a Chinese national to stay in Taiwan for an extended period of time,” the website posting, from 2017, says.

Other concerns may have been a factor. Human rights groups have reported that Tibetan Buddhist organizations have faced restrictions on their movement and religious freedom in Mainland China.

GEBIS was first established in British Columbia as a charity in 2006. Another organization was later established in Toronto. But ultimately Prince Edward Island was chosen. GWBI’s website states that Zhen-Ru enjoyed the “serenity” of P.E.I., a place far removed from “bustling cities.”

P.E.I. may have offered something else: peace and quiet.

"She doesn't want to be famous," Tsai said in an interview in January 2020.

"She told us that her dream for this life is to live in a cave and just meditate all the time."

Zhen-Ru is very likely the only leader of a global religious movement to live on P.E.I.

Master Zhen-Ru, also known as Mary Jin, is the spiritual master of both GWBI and GEBIS. She lives on P.E.I. - GWBI

Master Zhen-Ru, also known as Mary Jin, is the spiritual master of both GWBI and GEBIS. She lives on P.E.I. - GWBI

An economic gift horse?

In the ongoing controversy around landholdings and the motivations of GEBIS and GWBI, what is often lost is a legitimate argument that the presence of these organizations could benefit P.E.I.

One significant focus of lay followers has been the promotion of organic agriculture. The founder of Bliss and Wisdom, Master Jih-Chang, helped establish several social enterprises geared towards promoting organics, including the Tse-Xin Organic Agricultural Foundation in Taiwan, which provides an organic accreditation testing system in Taiwan. As of 2010, there were 433 farms in Taiwan that had obtained this accreditation.

Lay followers in Taiwan have since also established Leezen grocery store chains across Taiwan, providing a significant market for organic goods. This social enterprise is not directly owned by Bliss and Wisdom but is operated in line with Buddhist beliefs. There are about 130 such stores in Taiwan and 29 worldwide.

A similar business run by a lay follower of GEBIS in P.E.I. is Grain Essence Incorporated, which owns the local Leezen grocery store on University Avenue in Charlottetown.

Ellsworth says the group purchases Island-grown organic soybeans from local farmers and ships them to Taiwan to produce soy milk.

Ellsworth, who travelled to Taiwan and met with the president of Leezen, said the stores overseas often proudly display Canadian and P.E.I.-produced goods, including soy products, cranberries, Canadian flags and blueberry jam.

"They're of course proud that it comes from P.E.I.,” Ellsworth said.

“P.E.I. is presented as this pristine landscape where organic produce is being created … but also because where the food comes from is somewhat geographically close to their current leader.”

GWBI and GEBIS have also offered significant purchasing support for organic growers in P.E.I.

"They were our biggest organic customers last year,” Brian MacKay of Crystal Green Farms told The Guardian in November.

“They don't want a whole lot of noise and flack for the things they do. But they are supporting a little more than maybe they're getting credit for."

“I know there's some concern around the acreage they're getting to own. But if we don't accept a nunnery, I'm not sure just what would be good enough for us,” he added.

The interest in P.E.I. from Bliss and Wisdom’s Taiwanese followers has also been a boon to P.E.I.’s tourism market.

Between 2013 and 2018, overnight visitors from Taiwan jumped from 58 to 3,065 according to Tourism P.E.I. These visitors pumped at least $2.25 million into the local economy. This increase is very likely linked to the GEBIS and GWBI communities.

Ellsworth’s research shows that GEBIS has been donating significant amounts of locally grown food to food banks on the Island since at least 2015. A quick perusal of the group's About Monks Facebook page demonstrates that this has continued throughout the fall and winter.

Overall, the questions surrounding the landholdings of both GWBI and GEBIS will likely persist in the future. But so too will claims from the groups’ leaders that they hope to be a net positive for the Island.

Venerable Yvonne, who has lived on P.E.I. for more than a decade, told The Guardian: “People ask us 'what's your endgame?'

"I just want to make the Island home."

Stu Neatby is The Guardian's political reporter.

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Federal government to claw back $1.3M of New Brunswick health funding

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Ottawa plans to crack down on doctors charging for medically necessary health care

Health minister warns federal transfers could be cut if patients are charged for care

Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos is telling the provinces to put a stop to patients being charged for medically necessary care — and warns that Ottawa will claw back federal health transfer payments if the charges continue.

"I am very concerned with the recent increase in reports of patient charges for medically necessary services," Duclos says in a letter sent Thursday to all provincial and territorial health ministers. Federal officials provided CBC News with a copy.

"No matter where in the country Canadians live or how they receive medically necessary care, they must be able to access these services without having to pay out of pocket."

  • Have you paid for a virtual appointment with a doctor? Let us know about your experience in an email to ask@cbc.ca

Companies charging patients for virtual visits with a family physician are the chief targets of the federal crackdown, according to a senior government official.

Jean-Ives Duclos standing in front of pharmacy shelves. Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos is telling the provinces to put a stop to patients being charged for medically necessary care and warns that Ottawa will claw back federal health transfer payments if the charges continue. (Tony Davis/CBC)

Although the Canada Health Act prohibits charging "insured persons" for medically necessary services, there has been an explosion recently in the number of companies across the country offering online doctors' appointments and charging fees in the range of $50 to $100 per visit.

Companies that charge a fee get around the Canada Health Act prohibition by connecting the patient to a physician in a different province. Under the medicare rules in the province where the doctor practises, the patient technically would not qualify as an "insured person."

Some critics have called this a loophole in the Canada Health Act.

In his letter, Duclos says expanded access to health care using virtual platforms must remain "true to the spirit and intent of the Canada Health Act."

Duclos says he will give provinces and territories a document clarifying that charges for medically necessary services are not allowed, regardless of where the patient lives.

"The complexities of modern family health, virtual and surgical care, including its provision across jurisdictions, and expanding scopes of practice of health workers, should not be used to permit these charges," the letter says.

A doctor looks at a computer screen showing images of a patient's knee replacement surgery.   Dr. Pascal-André Vendittoli looks at images of a patient's knee replacement surgery. He is medical director of the Duval Clinic, a private facility in Laval, Que., specializing in joint replacements for fee-paying patients. (Louis-Marie Philidor/CBC)

"As our health care system evolves, it must do so while respecting the Canada Health Act.

One of the biggest players charging for virtual physician care is Maple, which describes itself as "Canada's top-rated virtual care app" and charges $69 or more for an appointment.

"We charge a fee for our services only when they are not covered by provincial health plans," says the company's website.

"We'd love to be eligible for public coverage consistently across Canada and we're working hard to ensure Maple is included in provincial coverage as soon as legislation allows."

It's not clear from Duclos' letter whether the Trudeau government will also crack down on other examples of doctors charging for medically necessary care, recently revealed by CBC News:

  • Some for-profit surgical clinics are charging patients who travel from another province up to $28,000 for a hip or knee replacement.
  • Doctor's offices in Ontario are offering virtual and in-person appointments with a nurse practitioner for a subscription of about $30 a month.

A nurse practitioner is pictured with a three-year-old girl.  Nurse practitioner Olivia Kavanagh sees a three-year-old patient at Kindercare Pediatrics in Toronto. The clinic is offering patients the option of rapid access to appointments with a nurse practitioner, for a monthly fee. (Craig Chivers/CBC)

Duclos' move comes at a time of growing debate over the role of the private sector in the delivery of publicly funded health care in Canada, particularly as provinces struggle with surgical backlogs and staff shortages stemming from the COVID-19 pandemic.

In Parliament in recent weeks, the New Democrats have repeatedly argued that the Trudeau government is allowing increasing privatization of the health system and that for-profit companies are playing a growing role in providing care. 

The federal government struck a deal with the provinces and territories last month for a 10-year boost to its annual Canada Health Transfer funding arrangement.

Duclos' letter warns that those transfers could be reduced if patients are charged fees for medical care. 

"Canadians pay for their health care services through their tax dollars, and should not be asked to pay again by way of patient charges when they need to access those services," Duclos writes. 

"Where instances of patient charges for these services are present, I will pursue a reduction in federal health transfers by an equivalent amount."

Computer showing web page for Maple, a virtual health platform Maple is one of the biggest players in the sector, selling virtual visits with Canadian physicians starting from $69 per appointment. (Carolyn Ryan/CBC)

Different provinces have different approaches to coverage of virtual medical appointments, and some of the rules have been shifting as the COVID-19 pandemic has waned.

  • How do you feel about doctors charging for virtual health care? We want to hear from you. Send an email to ask@cbc.ca.

For instance, as of last December the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP) covers the cost of virtual or phone consultations only when the patient has an ongoing relationship with a doctor. "Virtual walk-in clinic" visits — with a doctor the patient has not seen face-to-face — are not covered.

That switch hampered the business model of another company offering virtual appointments — Rocket Doctor, which now charges $55 for a doctor visit.

"Virtual primary care and urgent care services are unfortunately no longer a service that patients can access for free on Rocket Doctor," says the company's website, which urges patients to sign a petition calling for that policy to be reversed.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Mike Crawley

Senior reporter

Mike Crawley covers provincial affairs in Ontario for CBC News. He began his career as a newspaper reporter in B.C., filed stories from 19 countries in Africa as a freelance journalist, then joined the CBC in 2005. Mike was born and raised in Saint John, N.B.

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David McKenzie   
This federal government has shown Canadians for the last eight years that they can't really crack down on anything. They make promises, just never fulfill them. 
 
 
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Go Figure

Federal government to claw back $1.3M of New Brunswick health funding

Amount includes deductions for abortion services, private diagnostic imaging

CBC News · Posted: Mar 10, 2023 4:32 PM AST


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Federal government to claw back $1.3M of New Brunswick health funding

Amount includes deductions for abortion services, private diagnostic imaging

"There should be no fees for medically necessary health-care services, wherever people may live in this country," Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said at a news conference Friday in Ottawa.

A total of $1,277,659 will be taken back based on a federal estimate of how much New Brunswickers paid for diagnostic imaging such as MRI and CT scans in 2020-21.

A further $64,850 is being clawed back because of abortion access in the province.

The $1,342,509 total represents a sliver of the $1 billion Canada Health Transfer payment from the federal government to New Brunswick for 2023-24.

It represents an even smaller portion of the $3.2 billion the province planned to spend on health in the current fiscal year.

Overall, the federal government is clawing back $82.5 million from provinces across the country. Half of that is from Quebec. 

The Canada Health Act prohibits charging "insured persons" for medically necessary services.

The minister said the deductions could be refunded if provinces change their approach so people don't pay fees for medically necessary care. Duclos pointed to British Columbia, which has seen its deductions reduced after making changes. 

The deduction for abortion relates to the lack of abortion services outside hospitals in New Brunswick.

A one-storey building on a street corner with a sidewall painted in rainbow colours. A sign says Clinic 554. The New Brunswick government has refused to cover the cost of abortions provided at Clinic 554 in Fredericton. (Jon Collicott/CBC)

Abortions up to 13 weeks of pregnancy are covered by Medicare at two hospitals in Moncton and one in Bathurst.

However, it has refused to fund the procedure at the private Clinic 554 in Fredericton. The province has said the hospital services are sufficient to meet demand.

A federally commissioned study on the issue is expected to be completed in June

The province said in a statement Friday that it is aware of the federal decision and is assessing its implications.

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Silicon Valley Bank collapse marks 2nd biggest bank failure in U.S. history

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Markets fall after key Silicon Valley bank collapses

In the largest bank failure since the 2008 financial crisis, the Silicon Valley Bank was shut down by regulators. Wall Street Journal capital markets reporter Corrie Driebusch and CNBC’s Senior Markets Correspondent Bob Pisani joined Meet the Press NOW with their analysis.
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Silicon Valley Bank collapse marks 2nd biggest bank failure in U.S. history

Bank, the 16th largest in U.S., failed after depositors hurried to withdraw money

Regulators rushed Friday to seize the assets of one of Silicon Valley's top banks, marking the largest failure of a U.S. financial institution since the height of the financial crisis almost 15 years ago.

Silicon Valley Bank, the 16th-largest bank in the U.S., failed after depositors hurried to withdraw money this week amid anxiety over the bank's health. It was the second biggest bank failure in U.S. history after the collapse of Washington Mutual in 2008.

The bank served mostly technology workers and venture capital-backed companies, including some of the industry's best-known brands.

"This is an extinction-level event for startups," said Garry Tan, CEO of Y Combinator, a startup incubator that launched Airbnb, DoorDash and Dropbox and has referred hundreds of entrepreneurs to the bank.

"I literally have been hearing from hundreds of our founders asking for help on how they can get through this. They are asking, 'Do I have to furlough my workers?'"

Little chance of chaos spreading

There appeared to be little chance of the chaos spreading in the broader banking sector, as it did in the months leading up to the Great Recession. The biggest banks — those most likely to cause an economic meltdown — have healthy balance sheets and plenty of capital.

Nearly half of the U.S. technology and health-care companies that went public last year after getting early funding from venture capital firms were Silicon Valley Bank (SVB) customers, according to the bank's website.

The bank also boasted of its connections to leading tech companies such as Shopify, ZipRecruiter and one of the top venture capital firms, Andreesson Horowitz.

Tan estimated that nearly one-third of Y Combinator's startups will not be able to make payroll at some point in the next month if they cannot access their money.

Roku's company logo is seen in front of a large office building. Internet TV provider Roku was among casualties of the bank's collapse. It said in a regulatory filing Friday that about 26 per cent of its cash — $487 million US — was deposited at Silicon Valley Bank. (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)

Internet TV provider Roku was among casualties of the bank collapse. It said in a regulatory filing Friday that about 26 per cent of its cash — $487 million US — was deposited at Silicon Valley Bank.

Roku said its deposits with SVB were largely uninsured and it didn't know "to what extent" it would be able to recover them.

As part of the seizure, California bank regulators and the FDIC transferred the bank's assets to a newly created institution — the Deposit Insurance Bank of Santa Clara. The new bank will start paying out insured deposits on Monday. Then the FDIC and California regulators plan to sell off the rest of the assets to make other depositors whole.

Failure unfolded rapidly

There was unease in the banking sector all week, with shares tumbling by double digits. Then news of Silicon Valley Bank's distress pushed shares of almost all financial institutions even lower Friday

The failure arrived with incredible speed. Some industry analysts suggested Friday that the bank was still a good company and a wise investment. Meanwhile, Silicon Valley Bank executives were trying to raise capital and find additional investors. However, trading in the bank's shares was halted before stock market's opening bell due to extreme volatility.

A man checks his phone while standing outside an office building.   An employee checks his phone after arriving to work on Friday to SVB's shuttered headquarters. (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)

Shortly before noon, the FDIC moved to shutter the bank. Notably, the agency did not wait until the close of business, which is the typical approach. The FDIC could not immediately find a buyer for the bank's assets, signaling how fast depositors cashed out.

The White House said U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen was "watching closely." The administration sought to reassure the public that the banking system is much healthier than during the Great Recession.

"Our banking system is in a fundamentally different place than it was, you know, a decade ago," said Cecilia Rouse, chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers.

"The reforms that were put in place back then really provide the kind of resilience that we'd like to see."

Two men stand outside the closed doors of a bank. Two other men stand inside. People try to access the Park Avenue location of SVB, in New York City, on Friday. (David 'Dee' Delgado/Reuters)

In 2007, the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression rippled across the globe after mortgage-backed securities tied to ill-advised housing loans collapsed in value. The panic on Wall Street led to the demise of Lehman Brothers, a firm founded in 1847.

Because major banks had extensive exposure to one another, the crisis led to a cascading breakdown in the global financial system, putting millions out of work.

At the time of its failure, Silicon Valley Bank, which is based in Santa Clara, Calif., had $209 billion US in total assets, the FDIC said.

It was unclear how many of its deposits were above the $250,000 insurance limit, but previous regulatory reports showed that lots of accounts exceeded that amount.

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P.E.I. truckers set out to join Freedom Convoy in Ottawa

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P.E.I. truckers set to join massive Freedom Convoy protest in Ottawa this weekend

Thousands of truckers across Canada and U.S. expected to converge on nation's capital

CHARLOTTETOWN, P.E.I. — About 50 P.E.I. truckers are planning to take part in this weekend’s Freedom Convoy.

Thousands of truck drivers across Canada and the United States are set to converge in Ottawa to protest the federal government requirement that essential workers — truckers included — be vaccinated if they want to avoid a 14-day quarantine after crossing the border from the U.S.

The rule came into effect Jan. 15.

Laura Marie Braden of Souris, who is helping co-ordinate an effort to send drivers from P.E.I., said this convoy is about much more than a rule that affects truckers coming into Canada from the United States.

She said it's time to take a stand against vaccine mandates and employment ultimatums.

“I mean, it’s just ridiculous for the prime minister to put a vaccine mandate on truckers in the winter," Braden said in a phone interview on Jan. 25. “This is the straw that broke the camel’s back. There’s no need to do it. They don’t get out of their trucks."

Laura Marie Braden of Souris has been helping organize a contingent of Islanders looking to support the trucking industry at a protest in Ottawa this weekend against vaccine mandates. - Contributed

Laura Marie Braden of Souris has been helping organize a contingent of Islanders looking to support the trucking industry at a protest in Ottawa this weekend against vaccine mandates. - Contributed

Braden added that truckers are tired of the lack of support from politicians, so the time has come to speak up.

“Canadians are pissed off," she said. “The (federal) Opposition has been silent, so there’s nobody speaking out for Canadians who aren’t for the mandates. The trucking industry has become Canada’s official opposition, and they have become a voice."

Taking part

P.E.I. long-haul truck driver Tyler Beaton, who plans to take part in the Freedom Convoy, said he is fully vaccinated and encourages people to get vaccinated, but he opposes any policy that puts people in a position where they have to get the shot.

“Most importantly, I am participating in this convoy so we can have our freedoms back," the 25-year-old Hunter River resident told SaltWire Network in a phone interview on Jan. 25 from Salisbury, N.B.


"Most importantly, I am participating in this convoy so we can have our freedoms back."

- Tyler Beaton


Beaton said he doesn’t want to see Canada divided by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, “who says we should hate each other based in whether we’ve had a shot”.

He also said he is tired of vaccine mandates making people in his industry look like the bad guys.

“Every time I cross the (Confederation) Bridge I get treated like a villain; like I’m going to bring COVID to the Island," he said.

No support

The Atlantic Provinces Trucking Association is not supporting the convoy.

“I think the message is getting a bit lost here with all of the commotion around the convoy," Jean-Marc Picard, executive director of the association, told SaltWire Network in a phone interview from his office in Dieppe, N.B., on Jan. 25. “It’s not even about trucking ... we support our industry, we support our drivers and we’ve been doing that since COVID (began)."

Jean-Marc Picard, executive director of the Atlantic Provinces Trucking Association, said his group does not support the trucking protest that will take place in Ottawa this weekend. - Contributed

Jean-Marc Picard, executive director of the Atlantic Provinces Trucking Association, said his group does not support the trucking protest that will take place in Ottawa this weekend. - Contributed

Picard said the association lobbied against the U.S.-Canada border mandate but got shot down by the federal government.

Picard calls the demonstration destructive, something that won’t be effective in the end.

“This is just not the right way to go about things. It’s evolved into something more than about trucking. That’s the way we see it."

Picard said he understands the frustration, but truckers should take to social media to air their grievances or talk to their MLAs.

He added that if members of the association want to participate that’s their choice, but there are more important issues at hand.

“Our members have customers and deliveries to do, and it’s busy and we’re in a driver crunch," Picard said. “We’ve got enough challenges to deal with in the supply chain, and this is certainly not one of them."


Did you know?

  • There will be a send-off on the P.E.I. side of the Confederation Bridge between 6 and 7:30 a.m. on Jan. 27 with truckers heading for the protest in Ottawa this weekend.
  • At the time that Laura Marie Braden spoke with SaltWire Network, she said about 50 drivers from this province had committed to making the trek to Canada’s capital.
  • A GoFundMe campaign, to support the drivers taking part with food, fuel and lodging, had reached more than $4 million as of the afternoon of Jan. 25.

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UPDATE: P.E.I. truckers set out to join Freedom Convoy in Ottawa

Truckers, supporters drive across Confederation Bridge the morning of Jan. 27

BORDEN-CARLETON, P.E.I. — By 7 a.m. on Thursday, Jan. 27, dozens of cars had already gathered at Ceretti's Grocery and Hardware in Borden-Carleton, ready to drive across the Confederation Bridge to Aulac, N.B.

Several of these cars – as well as the trucks that would later arrive – would continue on to Ottawa and join what has become known online as the Freedom Convoy 2022. Others were there to escort the truckers across the bridge and support them in their protest of a new federal requirement that essential workers, including truckers, must be vaccinated to avoid a 14-day quarantine after crossing the U.S. border.

The rule went into place on Jan. 15.

Not everyone who was on their way to Ottawa was a truck driver, though. Some, like Angela Barton, were joining the convoy to show solidarity with truckers.

“I was born in Ottawa, and the feeling inside most of us, I feel like, it’s hope,” she said. “The big feeling inside of you that drives you, that makes you want to be a part of, hopefully, changing the world, hoping to change Canada’s future.”

After living with the pandemic, restrictions and mandates for nearly two years, Barton said it is time for restrictions to lift and return to normal.

“We’re hoping that Trudeau will see that we’re coming together,” said Barton. “We’re hoping that the mandates will stop, the lockdowns will stop and that we can choose whether we want to be vaccinated or not.”

Although Angela Barton is not a truck driver, she will be heading to Ottawa with the truckers to show her support in person. After two years of pandemic restrictions, she believes it is time for the mandates to end. - Kristin Gardiner

Although Angela Barton is not a truck driver, she will be heading to Ottawa with the truckers to show her support in person. After two years of pandemic restrictions, she believes it is time for the mandates to end. - Kristin Gardiner

As the convoy of truckers and their supporters headed across the bridge at 8 a.m., hundreds of other supporters were in a parking lot on Borden Avenue near the bridge, some waving flags and signs, while others remained in their cars and lent their support through honking.

Caitlin Campbell, who was one of the people who showed up to watch the convoy set out at 8 a.m., said the protest in Ottawa was about more than the vaccine mandate.

Caitlin Campbell was one of the people who watched the P.E.I. convoy cross the Confederation Bridge at 8 a.m. on Thursday, Jan. 27. - Kristin Gardiner

Caitlin Campbell was one of the people who watched the P.E.I. convoy cross the Confederation Bridge at 8 a.m. on Thursday, Jan. 27. - Kristin Gardiner

“It’s (about) standing up for choices and freedoms,” she said. “I think it’s awesome to see this many people out today. I can’t wait to see what’s going to happen in Ottawa on Saturday.”

While Campbell is vaccinated, she said she would like to see an end to mandates and the vax pass; vaccination, in her opinion, should be a choice.

For Campbell, it was important for her to show up in person, rather than lend her support through social media.

While cars and trucks headed over the Confederation Bridge to join or support the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa, many more supporters gathered in a parking lot on Borden Avenue, ready to watch the convoy set out. - Kristin Gardiner

While cars and trucks headed over the Confederation Bridge to join or support the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa, many more supporters gathered in a parking lot on Borden Avenue, ready to watch the convoy set out. - Kristin Gardiner

“Anybody can follow on Facebook, but showing up is the only way change ever happens,” she said. “Looking back in history, nothing ever changes until people go against the grain, against the normal and take a stand.”

Jean-Marc Picard, executive director of the Atlantic Provinces Trucking Association, told SaltWire Network in a previous interview that the association does not support the convoy. The association, he said, had previously argued against the border mandate. With the rule now in place, though, Picard said that the demonstration in Ottawa would prove to be ineffective.

Before heading across the Confederation Bridge on Jan. 27 to join the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa, truckers and their supporters gathered at Ceretti's Grocery & Hardware. - Kristin Gardiner

Before heading across the Confederation Bridge on Jan. 27 to join the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa, truckers and their supporters gathered at Ceretti's Grocery & Hardware. - Kristin Gardiner

He said he understood truckers’ frustrations but said that social media efforts and conversations with local MLAs would be a better way to go about making a change.

“This is just not the right way to go about things,” Picard previously told SaltWire Network. “It’s evolved into something more than about trucking. That’s the way we see it.”

If a member of the association wanted to participate in the weekend convoy, though, Picard acknowledged that it was their decision to make.

Editor's note: A previous version of this story incorrectly noted the number of supporters at the Confederation Bridge.


Kristin Gardiner is a rural reporter with the SaltWire Network in Prince Edward Island.

Carbon rules key to Irving Oil's new clean-energy deal, says gas partner

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Carbon rules key to Irving Oil's new clean-energy deal, says gas partner

U.S. company selling RNG to Saint John refinery says decarbonization ‘won’t happen’ without government push

Anaergia Inc. will begin supplying the refinery with renewable natural gas, or RNG, from Rhode Island this coming summer. 

The company says the gas is carbon-negative because it's created from organic landfill waste — mainly food scraps —  that would otherwise release methane, a greenhouse gas that contributes to climate change. 

That means it will help reduce the refinery's carbon intensity, a measure of how clean the energy is that powers its operations.

A man wearing a white dress shirt and black blazer in front of a bright background with a blue hue. Yaniv Scherson, Anaergia’s chief operating officer, said another advantage of renewable natural gas is that, except for the source, it is identical to the extracted natural gas Irving already uses at the refinery. (Submitted by Anaergia)

And that in turn contributes to Irving Oil's compliance with federal clean-fuel regulations and New Brunswick's output-based pricing system on carbon.

"The cost for this fuel on a carbon basis goes down significantly if the carbon intensity is low," Yaniv Scherson, Anaergia's chief operating officer, said in an interview.

"On a carbon basis, the fuel that we are producing from organic waste, because it has a negative carbon intensity, has a lower carbon cost to Irving Oil, to our customer." 

New Brunswick Green Party Leader David Coon said renewable natural gas is a credible technology, and Irving's decision to use it validates federal climate policies.

"It shows the power of environmental regulation because why they're doing this, to me, is the clean fuel standard that the federal government brought in. It's causing them to source much greener energy for their operations, which is fantastic."

Scherson said if a future federal government repealed existing climate policies, it would jeopardize the future growth of carbon-negative fuel sources, complicating efforts to reduce emissions.

"Decarbonization and renewable energy in general won't happen without policies in place," he said.

"Every major renewable wave or decarbonization effort starts with an objective or requirement to get there.

"Then over time, the marketplace reacts and there's greater volume, better pricing, and over time, the cost of decarbonization and sustainability decreases."

A man wearing a suit and tie standing in front of a wooden staircase, with a microphone being held out to him at chest level. New Brunswick Green Party Leader David Coon said renewable natural gas is a credible technology. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

The federal Conservative opposition has attacked the Trudeau government's carbon pricing and clean fuel regulations.

But Scherson said with "a really dangerous exponential rise" in emissions, such policies are essential to make non-emitting energy more cost-competitive more quickly.

"If we wait for the industry to act on its own, we see the detrimental effects of what's happening globally," he said. 

Irving Oil's rare public comments on federal climate policies, including carbon pricing, have included warnings that stringent rules might hurt the company's competitiveness.

But in 2021, the company said in a "report on sustainability" that it had "identified a series of potential projects for exploration focused on decarbonizing current assets."

Irving did not respond to an interview request, but in a news release, Irving Oil president Ian Whitcomb said the company was "proud to continue advancing on our energy transition journey," which include a goal of reducing emissions by 30 per cent by 2030.

The Anaergia deal could also yield benefits for Irving Oil under the New Brunswick government's output-based pricing system for large industry.

It requires major emitters to reduce their carbon intensity by two per cent each year until 2030. Companies can earn tradable carbon credits for reductions above that percentage.

Scherson said another advantage of renewable natural gas is that, except for the source, it is identical to the extracted natural gas Irving already uses at the refinery.

"It's the exact same molecule," he said, a "plug-and-play replacement" that avoids the need for costly new distribution systems and infrastructure that can take years to build.

Anaergia will capture biomethane from solid waste at a facility in Rhode Island and ship about 350 million cubic feet of it per year via pipeline to Saint John.

Capturing the gas will prevent the release of more than 40,000 metric tonnes per year of carbon dioxide-equivalent greenhouse gas emissions, the equivalent of taking 9,500 cars off the road, according to the company.

"When we sell the fuel to Irving, we sell all of the environmental attributes along with the fuel," said Alex MacFarlane, Anaergia's director of project development.

Province not seizing opportunities, says Green leader

Michelle Robichaud, president of the Atlantica Centre for Energy, an industry-supported think-tank, said renewable natural gas could replace about 1.3 per cent of the energy consumed in Canada now.

"It's a small role but definitely an important one," she said. "We are reducing the emissions that are going into the atmosphere by using RNG.

"I think we'll see more and more of it." 

Coon said his only complaint about RNG is that the current provincial government hasn't been willing to support the development of a local sector.

He said Laforge Bioenvironmental's commercial biogas production plant in the northwestern New Brunswick community of Saint-André could be supplying more RNG to the provincial market if better incentives were in place. 

There are "all kinds of possible opportunities," Coon said, "but the province is not seizing on it."

Former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna, a longtime booster of Irving Oil's energy projects, sits on Anaergia's board of directors but Scherson said he played no role in the deal.

"He really was not involved at all," he said. "It is coincidental."

Officials from the two companies met at a biogas conference in Toronto last spring and began talking about a possible deal, MacFarlane said.

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Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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Oh My My The Circus is in fine form today Eh?
 
 
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"Former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna, a longtime booster of Irving Oil's energy projects, sits on Anaergia's board of directors but Scherson said he played no role in the deal.

"He really was not involved at all," he said. "It is coincidental."

Yea Right

Brian Robertson  
The way the CBC persists in rolling out the Green Party would make one think they were a Party of political significance.

Such is the power of media.

 
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Methinks Higgy's circus would miss that clown adding his two bits worth on a daily basis N'esy Pas?
 
 
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For a while they were more of an opposition than the Liberals or PANB were.


 

Canadian-Owned Irving Oil Selects Anaergia Inc. as a Supplier of Carbon-Negative Renewable Natural Gas for its Operations, Including the Saint John Refinery

01/18/2023

Irving Oil and global waste-to-renewable natural gas (RNG) industry leader Anaergia Inc. (“Anaergia”, TSX: ANRG) have announced a partnership that will supply Canada’s largest refinery with carbon-negative RNG, as well as Irving Oil’s other operations such as Delivered Natural Gas. 

Anaergia's Project Development Director, Alex MacFarlane, and Irving Oil's Strategic Initiative Lead, Josiah Fecteau, visit Anaergia's Rhode Island Bioenergy Facility, where food waste that would otherwise have been landfilled is anaerobically digested to create renewable natural gas (RNG). Anaergia has agreed to provide Irving Oil with about 350 million cubic feet of RNG annually to reduce the need for conventional natural gas supply to Irving Oil’s operations, including the Saint John refinery in New Brunswick, Canada's largest.Anaergia's Project Development Director, Alex MacFarlane, and Irving Oil's Strategic Initiative Lead, Josiah Fecteau, visit Anaergia's Rhode Island Bioenergy Facility, where food waste that would otherwise have been landfilled is anaerobically digested to create renewable natural gas (RNG). Anaergia has agreed to provide Irving Oil with about 350 million cubic feet of RNG annually to reduce the need for conventional natural gas supply to Irving Oil’s operations, including the Saint John refinery in New Brunswick, Canada's largest. (Photo: Anaergia)

The RNG, which is made from organic matter instead of fossil fuels, will be produced at Anaergia’s Rhode Island Bioenergy Facility, where food waste and other organic wastes that would otherwise have been landfilled, are transformed into renewable fuel. About 350 million cubic feet of RNG will be supplied annually from Anaergia Inc. into the regional pipeline where it will reduce the need for conventional natural gas supply to Irving Oil’s operations, including the Saint John refinery in New Brunswick.

This RNG is recognized as carbon-negative due to its ability to capture more methane emissions than the organic waste would have otherwise created when landfilled. In this way, Anaergia’s Rhode Island Bioenergy Facility prevents the release of more than 40,000 metric tonnes per year of carbon dioxide-equivalent greenhouse gas emissions.

“We are proud to continue advancing on our energy transition journey through this new partnership where waste will be diverted from the landfill and converted to renewable natural gas for use in our operations, including at our Saint John refinery,” says Ian Whitcomb, President of Irving Oil. “We are making strides in achieving our 2030 goal of a 30% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions as we shift to lower carbon energies. We know that together we can create real change towards a more sustainable energy future for all.”

The Rhode Island Bioenergy Facility, located near Rhode Island’s central landfill in Johnston, is designed to divert over 100,000 tons per year of waste from landfills and it is the largest anaerobic digester processing organic waste in New England. This facility converts food scraps plus some other organic wastes, into fertilizer, recycled water and RNG. The nutrient-rich solid residual of the digestion process is utilized to enrich New England soils and to reduce the use of fossil fuel-derived fertilizers.

“We are proud to be a part of this partnership where producing RNG from landfill-diverted organic waste is reducing greenhouse emissions from landfills and supporting Canada’s clean energy transition with a carbon-negative fuel,” says Andrew Benedek, Chairman and CEO of Anaergia. “Methane emissions from landfills are a big contributor to global warming. The state of Rhode Island is doing something to solve this problem, while also addressing New England’s waste disposal needs. Likewise, Irving Oil is recognizing the value of using what people throw away every day to create a renewable fuel.”

The opportunity to use diverted landfill waste that is converted into RNG for Irving Oil’s operations, including at the Saint John refinery, is an important step forward as the company works to achieve its sustainability goals.

For more information, please explore Irving Oil’s 2021 Report on Sustainability here.

About Anaergia

Anaergia was created to eliminate a major source of greenhouse gases by cost effectively turning organic waste into renewable natural gas (RNG), fertilizer and water, using proprietary technologies. With a proven track record from delivering world-leading projects on four continents, Anaergia is uniquely positioned to provide end-to-end solutions for extracting organics from waste, implementing high efficiency anaerobic digestion, upgrading biogas, producing fertilizer and cleaning water. Our customers are in the municipal solid waste, municipal wastewater, agriculture, and food processing industries. In each of these markets Anaergia has built many successful plants including some of the largest in the world. Anaergia owns and operates some of the plants it builds, and it also operates plants that are owned by its customers.

About Irving Oil

Irving Oil is a family-owned and privately held international energy company. For nearly 100 years, our commitment to doing good business has been grounded in our commitment to people – to our employees, customers, communities and partners. Founded in 1924, our mission is focused on our continued evolution to meet the changing needs of our customers. Specializing in the refining and marketing of finished energy products, we operate Canada’s largest refinery in Saint John, New Brunswick, and Ireland’s only refinery located in the village of Whitegate. We proudly serve customers with more than 1,000 fuelling locations and a network of distribution terminals spanning Eastern Canada, New England and in Ireland, operating under the Top brand. We are on a continuous journey of sustainable development, working to reduce our environmental footprint while continuing to provide safe and reliable energy to our customers. Named one of Canada’s Top 100 Employers for seven consecutive years, we are proud of our team and our longstanding commitment to our customers and our communities. Learn more at www.irvingoil.com.

Katherine d’Entremont
Irving Oil
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506.654.7162

Melissa Bailey
Anaergia Inc.
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For additional information on Anaergia please see: www.anaergia.com
For Anaergia’s investor relations team please contact: IR@Anaergia.com

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Dr. Benedek has held the role of CEO since founding Anaergia in 2007. He received his engineering degree (chemical) from McGill University in Montreal, Québec in 1966. By 1970, he had obtained a Ph.D. in chemical engineering from the University of Washington in Seattle, Washington with a focus on wastewater treatment. Dr. Benedek then accepted a professorship at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario where he taught and conducted research to find ways of improving water quality. In 1980, Dr. Benedek founded ZENON with the purpose of developing cost effective membrane technologies for recycling wastewater. Under his leadership, ZENON invented, developed and commercialized many of the key membrane technologies used for water and wastewater treatment and became a global leader in this field.

Dr. Diana Mourato BenedekDirector

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Dr. Mourato Benedek has been a director of Anaergia since the company was founded in 2007. Dr. Mourato Benedek has a PhD and a Master’s of Science degree in Civil Engineering from McGill University in Montreal, Québec. She is a pioneer in the development and commercialization of immersed membranes and membrane bioreactors in the field of municipal wastewater and drinking water treatment. Dr. Mourato Benedek was formerly a Senior Vice President at ZENON, responsible for North and South American and international operations. She has extensive experience in environmental sciences as head of the ZENON municipal business, which she founded and grew in five years to be the largest commercial division of ZENON while maintaining profitability year after year. She is also a former Vice President, Site Remediation at SNC Lavalin. Dr. Mourato Benedek is currently the Chief Executive Officer of Fibracast and is directly responsible for research and development and the continuous improvement of technology within the company. She was formerly the Chief Operating Officer of Anaergia and is currently a Managing Director of many of its international subsidiaries.

Peter GrossDirector

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Mr. Gross has been a director with Anaergia since 2019. He is a three-time water entrepreneur, having started and grown domestic and international companies, a water/wastewater technology inventor with 10 patents covering treatment technologies, a board member on various water/wastewater companies, consultant and investor. Mr. Gross brings his experience doing business with enterprises ranging from small local entities to large governmental organizations in 88 countries around the world. His experience also includes supporting the U.S. Department of Defense and the U.S. State Department with water/wastewater treatment systems in some of the most challenging areas of the world. Since July 2016, Mr. Gross has been Chief Executive Officer of SURGE International, LLC where he guides start-up water/wastewater technology companies to achieve global success. As a consultant to Emerson Collective, LLC, Mr. Gross provides strategic water guidance while providing governance to portfolio companies through board participation.

Francis J. McKennaDirector

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Mr. McKenna has held the position of director with Anaergia since 2020. Mr. McKenna is currently the Deputy Chair, Wholesale of TD Bank Group, a financial institution, a position he has held since 2006. He is also the Chair of the board of directors of Brookfield Asset Management Inc., a global asset manager with approximately US$600 billion of assets under management, and the Chair of the compensation committee of the board of the directors of Canadian Natural Resources Limited. Mr. McKenna is a former Ambassador of Canada to the United States and was elected as Premier of the Province of New Brunswick from 1987 until 1997. Mr. McKenna is a Queen’s Counsel, a Member of the Queen’s Privy Council, a Member of the Order of New Brunswick and a Member of the Order of Canada. Mr. McKenna is a graduate of St. Francis Xavier University, Queen’s University and the University of New Brunswick Law School and is also the recipient of 15 honorary degrees.

Douglas Fridrik ParkhillDirector

Portrait

Mr. Parkhill has been a director with Anaergia since 2019. He currently serves as Executive Chairman of Sagicor Bank (Barbados), the first fully digital bank in the Caribbean. He led the development and execution of the digital bank's business plan over a two year period. Mr. Parkill also serves as a non-executive director on the boards of several private financial services companies. Previously, he was the Managing Director & Head, Strategic Advisory of Clariti Strategic Advisors Inc., providing advisory services to corporations and institutional investors. Mr. Parkhill served as the Chief Executive Officer of CIBC First Caribbean International Bank from 2011 to 2015. During this period, he was responsible for the restructuring of the bank, which resulted in a turnaround of its operating and financial performance. He joined Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (“CIBC”) in 2008 as Managing Director, Head of Cash Equities. During his tenure, CIBC became recognized as a Canadian leader in equity trading and equity capital markets. Prior to joining CIBC, Mr. Parkhill held several senior executive positions with the TMX Group Limited, including President and Interim Co-Chief Executive Officer. He was instrumental in the successful expansion of TMX Group’s listings and trading businesses outside of Canada. Mr. Parkhill has over 30 years of experience in the financial services industry, including managing banks, brokerage firms and exchanges. He is a graduate of Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario.

Alan ViterbiDirector

Portrait

Mr. Viterbi has been a director with Anaergia since 2019. He was previously the Chief Executive Officer of Liquid Environmental Solutions (“LES”) in 2002, serving as Chief Executive Officer from inception though 2019, as Chief Financial Officer from inception through 2009 and as Executive Chairman from 2019 through 2020. With 54 collection branches and 24 wastewater recycling plants servicing customers in all 50 states, LES collects, treats and beneficially recovers materials from a wide variety of wastewater sources, including grease traps, oil water separators, industrial and manufacturing processes and used cooking oil. Mr. Viterbi was previously a co-founder, Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer of U.S. Public Technologies, a North American market leader in traffic photo enforcement, from its inception through to the sale of the business to Lockheed Martin, where he then served as Vice President of Photo Enforcement. Prior to entering the private sector, Mr. Viterbi was the Mayor of West Hollywood, California and a member of the first city council after incorporation from 1984 to 1988. He has also served on various public agency boards, including as a member of the California Export Finance Board, and in a number of leadership roles in various community organizations. His holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in History and a Master’s degree in Business Administration, including graduate coursework in accounting, from the University of California, Los Angeles and a Fellowship with the Coro Foundation.

Richard ChowDirector

Portrait

Mr. Chow is an Advisor to Inclusive Capital Partners, a San Francisco-based investment firm. He has close to 25 years of experience in the energy industry, having served as CEO, president, and/or board member for several companies. Most recently, Mr. Chow has been a Distinguished Careers Institute Fellow at Stanford University, where he continues to serve as an advisor to the TomKat Center for Sustainable Energy. Previously, Mr. Chow founded Ridge Energy Services in 2016, an oilfield services company focused on geothermal, and sold the company assets to Iceland Drilling in 2020. For close to ten years, he was a portfolio CEO for a group of institutional investors, including Riverstone Holdings, a $30 billion private equity firm investing across the entire energy value chain globally. In this capacity, he served as the CEO and Board member for ThermaSource (geothermal) and President of US Biodiesel (biofuels). In the 1990s, Mr. Chow served as the President of a Bechtel Enterprises joint venture with PacifiCorp (EnergyWorks) that developed renewable energy and on-site generation projects in Southeast Asia. He began his career in energy developing coal and natural gas power projects before transitioning to focus on the development of renewable energy projects, such as wind, solar, biomass, geothermal and now, renewable natural gas.

 
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Atlantica Centre for Energy

The Atlantica Centre for Energy proactively engages with industry, government, the education and research sectors, and the public to foster sustainable growth related to energy opportunities in Atlantic Canada. As a non-profit organization, our membership represents the largest employers, producers, distributors, and consumers of energy in the Atlantic region.

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Attn Lori Clark Why do yo keep asking Roger Richard if I will be attending the EUB hearing?

David Amos

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Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 9:18 AM
To: lclark@nbpower.com, colleen.dentremont@atlanticaenergy.org
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Obviously I am not there today nor am I coming so the Saint John cops
can quit hanging around the meeting rooms at the Delta looking for me
and do something important like catching crooks  If you wish to speak
to me I have no doubt that Colleen Dentremont saved my cell number
after she finally called me back last week
 

Methinks Jacky Boy Keir and his LIEbrano cohorts are too Happy Happy Happy these days to suit some folks N'esy Pas Minister Mikey Holland?

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Subject: RE: Methinks Minister Mikey Holland and the CBC are way past
too late to try to act ethical now N'esy Pas Higgy?
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/hydro-quebec-mactaquac-analysis-1.5432123

Want to understand Hydro-Québec's Mactaquac plan? Look south of the border

While Quebec will sell more energy to New Brunswick, New England may
be the real target
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jan 20, 2020 5:00 AM AT



14 Comments

David Raymond Amos
Oh My My

Methinks Jacky Boy Keir and his cohorts are too Happy Happy Happy
these days to suit some folks N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks some of Minister Mikey's
minions must recall the NB-NBSO-NERC MOU that Jacky Boy Keir signed On
Oct 3rd, 2008 if not not the EUB and Neil Jacobsen now working for
Atlantica certainly should N'esy Pas?



Enjoy a little Deja Vu You dudes were having your yap sessions while
Higgy sent other people to meet secretly at the WU Centre in order for
Yankees to create a very questionable "Strawman Report" for the
benefit of NB Power and the  EUB N'esy Pas?

July 29, 2019/le 29 juillet 2019

STANDING COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS/
COMITÉ PERMANENT DES COMPTES PUBLICS
AGENDA/ORDRE DU JOUR

Tuesday, August 6, 2019, from 1 p.m. until 6 p.m./
le mardi 6 août 2019 de 13 h à 18 h

Donald Darling
Mayor of Saint John/Maire de Saint John
City of Saint John/Ville de Saint John

Judy Wagner
Former Clerk of the Executive Council/Ancienne greffière du Conseil exécutif
Current Deputy Minister of Policy and Legislative Affairs and
Secretary to Cabinet/
Sous-ministre actuelle des politiques et des affaires législatives et
secrétaire du Cabinet
Executive Council Office/Bureau du Conseil exécutif

Brian Gallant, Q.C./c.r.
Former Premier of New Brunswick/Ancien premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick
Member of the Legislative Assembly for Shediac Bay-Dieppe/
Député provincial de Baie-de-Shediac—Dieppe

Jack Keir
Former Working Group Member and employee of the Office of the Premier/
Ancien membre du groupe de travail et employé du Cabinet du premier ministre
Lee C. Bell-Smith, Q.C./c.r.
Former Deputy Attorney General/Ancien sous-procureur général
Wednesday, August 7, 2019, from 9 a.m. until 12 p.m., from 1 p.m. until 6 p.m.
le mercredi 7 août 2019 de 9 h à 12 h, de 13 h à 18 h
Joint Working Committee/Comité de travail mixte
Province of New Brunswick Members/
Membres représentant le gouvernement du Nouveau-Brunswick

Joel Dickinson
Former Co-Chair of Joint Working Committee/
Ancien coprésident du comité de travail mixte
Current Assistant Deputy Minister and Deputy Chief Operating Officer/
Sous-ministre adjoint et chef adjoint des opérations actuel
Executive Council Office/Bureau du Conseil exécutif

Elizabeth Hayward
Current Secretary to the Working Committee/
Secrétaire actuelle du comité de travail
Current Senior Advisor to the Deputy Minister for Policy and
Legislative Affairs/Conseillère principale actuelle de la
sous-ministre des politiques et des affaires législatives
Executive Council Office/Bureau du Conseil exécutif
City of Saint John Members/
Membres représentant la ville de Saint John

Neil Jacobsen
Former Co-Chair of Joint Working Committee and Acting City Manager/
Ancien coprésident du comité de travail mixte et directeur municipal par intérim
Current Deputy City Manager/Directeur municipal adjoint actuel
City of Saint John/Ville de Saint John

Jeff Trail
Former Co-Chair of Joint Working Committee and Saint John City
Manager/Ancien coprésident du comité de travail mixte et directeur
municipal de Saint John
Current Deputy Chief Administrative Officer/
Directeur municipal adjoint actuel
City of Fredericton/Ville de Fredericton

Kevin Fudge
Commissioner of Finance and Treasurer/
Commissaire des finances et trésorier
City of Saint John/Ville de Saint John

Cheryl Hansen
Deputy Minister/Sous-ministre
Department of Finance and Treasury Board/
Ministère des Finances et Conseil du trésor

Patricia MacKenzie
Deputy Secretary to Cabinet/Secrétaire adjointe du Cabinet
Executive Council Office/Bureau du Conseil exécutif

Jordan O’Brien
Former Chief of Staff/Ancien chef de cabinet
Office of the Premier/Cabinet du premier ministre

Jacques Pinet
Former Chief Executive Officer, Jobs Board Secretariat/
Ancien président-directeur général, Secrétariat du Conseil de l’emploi
Former President of the Regional Development Corporation/
Ancien président de la Société de développement régional
Thursday, August 8, 2019, from 9 a.m. until 12 p.m., from 1 p.m. until 6 p.m.
le jeudi 8 août 2019 de 9 h à 12 h, de 13 h à 18 h

Ann Marie Wood-Seems
Vice President/Vice-présidente
Regional Development Corporation/Société de développement régional

Kelli Simmonds
Deputy Minister/Sous-ministre
Department of Environment and Local Government/
Ministère de l’Environnement et des Gouvernements locaux

Kim MacPherson
Auditor General/Vérificatrice générale
Office of the Auditor General of New Brunswick/
Bureau du vérificateur général du Nouveau-Brunswick


http://www.atlanticaenergy.org/index.php?page=neil_jacobsen


Senior Policy Consultant
Neil Jacobsen
neil.jacobsen@atlanticaenergy.org

Neil JacobsonNeil’s exposure to the energy sector is deep-rooted.
Neil previously served as Assistant Deputy Minister with the New
Brunswick Department of Energy and Mines, where he led the team that
managed energy related policy, planning and regulatory affairs
activities for the Province of New Brunswick. Neil recently co-led a
strategic “value-optimization” initiative with the City of Saint John
and Saint John Energy focused on positioning the utility and
municipality for sustainable growth through product and service
innovation and the pursuit of new renewable energy development
opportunities.

Neil has also spent close to two decades successfully promoting
economic growth and diversification in the greater Saint John and
Fundy regions of New Brunswick, having worked in a management capacity
for the Saint John YMCA-YWCA Enterprise Centre, Business Development
Bank of Canada, Saint John Waterfront Development Partnership and
Enterprise Saint John. Through these organizations he has supported
local small business start-ups, coordinated the delivery of a wide
range of small business training and consulting programs, managed a
growing portfolio of business relocation and investment prospects, and
co-launched a nationally recognized multi-million dollar community
redevelopment project on the Saint John waterfront.

Neil grew up involved in a successful family business and has owned
and operated multiple small businesses. He attended the State
University of New York (with honors) and McGill University, where he
received his Bachelor of Engineering degree. He later went on to
receive his Master of Business Administration degree from the Ivey
Business School at Western University in London, Ontario, and recently
completed his certificate in Labour Relations from the Industrial
Relations Centre (IRC) at Queen’s University. Neil also achieved green
belt certification as a lean six sigma process improvement facilitator
in 2017 and was appointed as a Graduate School Teaching Associate
(GSTA) in the School of Graduate Studies at the University of New
Brunswick in 2019.

Neil has been actively involved in a wide range of community
organizations, and has served on the Board of Directors of the Fundy
Trail Development Authority, Atlantica Centre for Energy, Uptown Saint
John, Family Services Saint John and First Night Saint John (founding
President). Neil has also served as the Chair of Small Business Week
for the Fundy Region and Co-Chair of the Saint John Board of Trade’s
Business and Community Development Committee. He remains an active
volunteer with the Greater Saint John YMCA, including Chair of the
2019 Red Triangle Awards Gala and participation on the YMCA’s
Endowment Fund Bursary Committee.

In 2015 Neil was recognized by the Canadian Chamber of Commerce and
the Honourable Perrin Beatty, President and CEO of the Canadian
Chamber of Commerce, “as one of Canada’s Resource Champions for his
outstanding efforts to promote natural resources development and trade
in Canada”. Neil was also invited by the US State Department in 2013
to participate in their International Visitor Leadership Program
(IVLP). The IVLP Program focused on US-Canada energy policy issues and
involved interacting with government, industry, NGO and academic
leaders in Washington, Houston and Denver. Neil was one of three
Canadian participants.

NEW BRUNSWICK ENERGY and UTILITIES BOARD
COMMISSION DE L’ENERGIE ET DES SERVICES PUBLICS N.-B.

Matter 452

IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power  Corporation
for approval and Advanced Metering  Infrastructure capital project

Held at the Delta Hotel, Saint John, N.B. on January 16th 2020.

Members of the Board:
Mr. Francois Beaulieu - Vice-Chairman
Mr. Michael Costello - Member
Mr. Patrick Ervin - Member

NB Energy and Utilities Board:
Ms. Ellen Desmond, Q.C.
Mr. David Young
Mr. John Lawton
Mr. Michael Dickie
Chief Clerk: Ms. Kathleen Mitchell

Page 517

VICE-CHAIRMAN: I will start with the appearances with NB Power Corporation?
MR. FUREY: Good morning, Mr. Vice-Chair. John Furey accompanied this
morning by Ms. Doucett, Ms. Clark and4 Ms. Poirier.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Good morning, Mr. Furey. Atlantica Centre for Energy?
No one is here for Atlantica. Mr. Bourque? Mr. Bourque is not here.
J.D. Irving, Limited?
MR. STEWART: Christopher Stewart, Mr. Vice-Chair.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Good morning, Mr. Stewart.
MR. STEWART: Good morning.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: James D. Lane? Mr. Lane is not here. Liberty Utilities?
Mr. Callaghan is not here. Our  Environment, Our Choice? Mr. Mckinley
is not here. Dr. Richard?
DR. RICHARD: Oui, je suis ici avec Dr. Tatoutchoup.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Bon matin, Dr. Richard.
DR. RICHARD : Merci.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: T4G Limited? Mr. Flood is not here. Utilities Municipal?
MR. STOLL: Good morning, Mr. Chair, Scott Stoll and with me is Mr. Garrett.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Good morning, Mr. Stoll. The Public  Intervener?
MS. BLACK: Good morning, Mr. Vice-Chair. Heather Black.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Good morning, Ms. Black. And New 2 Brunswick Energy and
Utilities Board?
MS. DESMOND: Good morning. It is Ellen Desmond.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Good morning, Ms. Desmond. So Mr. Furey, 5 we have got
the continuance of --
MR. FUREY: Yes.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: -- the examination of Mr. Gilbert?
MR. FUREY: Mr. Gilbert is available for cross-examination by Dr. Richard.

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 

N.B. accepts asylum seekers from Quebec's Roxham Road, 'ready to do its part,' minister says

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N.B. accepts asylum seekers from Quebec's Roxham Road, 'ready to do its part,' minister says

Province's only refugee legal aid clinic may not be able to help everyone

New Brunswick has accepted 57 asylum seekers who originally made their claim at the Roxham Road border crossing in Quebec.

In February, Quebec Premier François Legault sent a letter to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, asking that migrants applying for asylum at the Roxham Road border crossing be redirected to other provinces. He said Quebec can't handle any more.

Roxham Road crosses the Canada-U.S. border between Quebec and New York and is located about 50 kilometres south of Montreal. It's long been an unofficial border crossing for asylum seekers looking to get into Canada.

Last year, about 39,000 people applied for asylum at the border, Legault said. It's not clear how many of them stayed in Quebec.

In a Friday statement, Arlene Dunn, the Minister responsible for Opportunities N.B., said the province "has welcomed 57 asylum claimants" from Quebec. She said 36 are in Fredericton and 21 in Moncton.

She said they arrived by bus through the process set in place by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada.

"New Brunswick is ready to do its part to respond to the influx of asylum seekers crossing from the United States to Quebec," she said.

New Brunswick officials are still working to confirm the number of claimants that "our province will be welcoming in the short-term," she said.

Dunn said the federal government is providing support to those arriving in New Brunswick, but did not respond to questions about what kind of resources are available.

Man in grey suit Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Minister Sean Fraser says the government is working on making free legal aid accessible to asylum seekers who are being moved from Quebec to Atlantic Canada. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)

At a news conference alongside federal Immigration Minister Sean Fraser, Dunn said all 57 have completed a skills questionnaire.

"We were there with the multicultural associations on the ground, speaking with them, understanding their circumstances, understanding where they were coming from, getting a better understanding of their skill sets, of their language capabilities," she said.

"Our priority is to make sure that we assist them in getting employment and settling into our communities and helping them thrive."

45 days to find a lawyer, submit application

Unlike provinces like Quebec and Ontario, New Brunswick does not provide legal aid services to refugee claimants who can't afford a lawyer. 

The New Brunswick Refugee Clinic is a Moncton-based group that helps claimants with the legal process for free. Executive director Olivia Huynh said the clinic is the only one of its kind in the province, and has only one employee — Huynh herself. Last year, with the help of three volunteer lawyers, she represented about 30 people, she said.

With the recent influx of claimants, she said her organization would not be able to help everyone unless they can expand and hire more lawyers.

Woman with arms crossed, smiling Olivia Huynh is the executive director of the New Brunswick Refugee Clinic, which provides free legal services to refugee claimants. (Submitted by Olivia Huynh)

"It's not clear how many people we can represent," she said. "If say for example, 150 people are coming to New Brunswick in the span of a few months, that would be beyond our clinic's capacity to represent all of them in their hearings, especially ... if they're coming within the same time frame."

On Friday, Fraser said the government is working toward finding a solution for legal aid funding, but there is no set plan yet. He did not address the 45-day window.

Huynh said people crossing through Roxham Road are initially assessed to see if they are eligible. If they're not, they're not admitted to Canada.

If a person is eligible, Huynh said they are screened, photographed, and given a special ID card called a "brown paper." They also undergo health testing, and are admitted into Canada to prepare their application, including providing evidence that they're not safe in their country.

On the day of the crossing, a 45-day clock starts ticking. If they don't find a lawyer, they may have to ask for an extension or represent themselves. Huynh said self-represented claimants are less likely to be granted refuge.

"Especially with the language barrier and with people who are just recently arriving to Canada," she said. "Their chances of success are much lower without a lawyer ... Even if they do have a very strong claim and a credible claim."

She said as far as she knows, most if not all of the 57 people in New Brunswick are still within the 45-day window. The organization has been making presentations to the newcomers about the process of completing their asylum claim. She said they're also setting up one-on-one meetings to assess each case. 

The non-profit is funded by grants, donations and the municipalities of Moncton, Dieppe and Riverview, she said. She's reached out to the province, and plans to send a letter to the federal government as well, but no funding plans have been finalized.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Hadeel Ibrahim is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick based in Saint John. She reports in English and Arabic. Email: hadeel.ibrahim@cbc.ca.

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Commission sticks with plan to split Green leader's riding on new election map

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Commission sticks with plan to split Green leader's riding on new election map

Final report heeds several other objections but dismisses pleas to keep Fredericton South intact

Despite objections from residents during a round of public consultations, Coon's Fredericton South riding will be split between two new constituencies on the election map in the commission's final report.

"The commission does not believe that the evidence received during the current round of consultations is sufficient to make any changes with respect to this request," the commission writes in the report tabled at the legislature Monday morning.

Coon has represented Fredericton South, a downtown urban riding on the south side of the St. John River, since 2014.

The new map makes Regent Street, the city's main north-south artery, the dividing line between two new ridings, Fredericton South-Silverwood and Fredericton-Lincoln.

Commission co-chair Roger Clinch said the commission was asked by the city of Fredericton early in the process to create more "totally urban ridings" in the capital.

"In order to do that, we established the ridings the way that they are" while respecting the law, he said. 

Last year, the Green Party was excluded from choosing members of the commission after objecting to having to submit names to the premier's office, instead of the legislature, for vetting.

Objection planned

The commission is co-chaired by Clinch, a former Progressive Conservative MP, and Camille Thériault, a former Liberal premier.

"I don't think it's for us to judge the makeup of the committee," Clinch said when asked if the Fredericton map might have been different with Green appointees involved.

"We were appointed to the committee, and we did the best that we could to apply the guiding principles across the province." 

Coon said Monday there's no way to say for sure if there was a deliberate attempt to make it harder for him to get re-elected.

But he said he'll be filing an objection to the report because Fredericton's south-side downtown is a community of interest that shouldn't be divided between two ridings. 

He also said the law should be changed so that political parties don't get to submit names for the commission.

"It needs to be actually and truly independent," he said.

The splitting of Coon's riding is one of the few proposals the commission refused to reconsider.

It did listen to residents of Neguac who argued against its original proposal to move the village into the riding of Tracadie.

The commission made the move so that the overwhelmingly Acadian village would be part of a majority-francophone riding.

A lighthouse in the colours of the Acadian flag, with a pond in front of it, a white building behind it and a playground to its right. Neguac will stay in the riding of Miramichi Bay-Neguac. It was going to be moved into a riding that would have been called Tracadie-Neguac. (Village of Neguac)

But during the public hearings earlier this year, several Neguac residents including Mayor Georges Savoie said the village preferred to stay in the same riding as part of Miramichi.

Savoie said Monday he was glad the final proposal restores the riding as Miramichi Bay-Neguac. 

"It's a good decision. It reflects the desire of the population to remain with the Miramichi, where we're getting our provincial services, and to have the MLA and the services from the same region," he said. 

The commission also agreed to several other changes to its original map, including in Fredericton, Moncton and the southwest and northwest parts of the province.

Provincial law requires the election map to be redrawn every 10 years to take into account shifting population numbers.

Ridings must be roughly equal in the number of voters, though the commission is allowed to deviate from that by 15 per cent to reflect other factors, including local government boundaries, rural representation, linguistic representation and "communities of interest."

And in "extraordinary circumstances" the commission can deviate from the equal-representation number by up to 25 per cent.

Even with that latitude, the commission says in its report it couldn't avoid putting part of the new municipality of Cap-Acadie in the Tantramar riding.

The commission is co-chaired by Roger Clinch (left), a former Progressive Conservative MP, and Camille Thériault (right), a former Liberal premier. The commission is co-chaired by Roger Clinch, left, a former Progressive Conservative MP, and Camille Thériault, a former Liberal premier. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Cap-Acadie Mayor Serge Léger questioned why the community, just created Jan. 1 under local government reform, would then be split between two provincial ridings.

Other residents said they wouldn't have effective representation in a majority anglophone riding.

But the commission says in its final report that the Tantramar riding would be too small — 29 per cent below the average number of voters — unless it included part of a neighbouring francophone community.

The report says the commission asked for a legal opinion and was told it had "no latitude to deviate from the absolute maximum deviation" of 25 per cent allowed by law.

The commission recommends the legislature pass legislation to create an exception to the 25-per-cent range for Tantramar before the next election.

Shediac-Beaubassin-Cap-Pelé Liberal MLA Jacques LeBlanc, whose riding includes Cap-Acadie, said the report was "disappointing" but he understood the commission had to respect the law.

He said he would look for other MLAs to support a bill to make an exception for Tantramar.

"That's the only solution that I can find at this time to move forward." 

Boundary changes

Other changes from the proposed map to the final version include:

  • Removing part of the city of Moncton from the mostly rural riding of Champdoré. Rural residents argued their clout would be weakened if a section of the fast-growing city were in the riding.
  • Shifting the village of Saint-Quentin into the same riding as Grand Falls.
  • Keeping Campobello Island in the Saint-Croix riding as it is now, after initially recommending adding it to Fundy-The Isles-Saint John Lorneville, formerly named Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West.
  • Moving part of the Marysville area of Fredericton into Fredericton-Grand Lake to avoid splitting that part of the city between three ridings.
  • The community of New Denmark will be part of the Carleton-Victoria riding rather than in Grand Falls-St. Quentin, as the commission proposed at first. 

Under the electoral boundaries law, any two MLAs can file a written objection to any of the final recommendations. 

The commission then has another 30 days to consider those objections but isn't obligated to heed them.

After that, the provincial cabinet is required by law to adopt the new ridings without changes.

The next provincial election is scheduled for Oct. 21, 2024. 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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$700K in property tax refunds due after N.B. retracts assessment increases on 2 forestry mills

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$700K in property tax refunds due after N.B. retracts assessment increases on 2 forestry mills

J.D. Irving Ltd. and Twin Rivers Paper Company have 2021 and 2022 assessments cut on two mills

Saint John City Councillor Gerry Lowe said he is stunned to hear about the reductions because the original 2021 assessment increases on the mills appeared bulletproof given the multi-year review Service New Brunswick launched to analyze and implement them.

"How could they put it up and say they did a complete study and then turn around two years later and knock it down," said Lowe.

 "It's off the wall how they do things."

Anne McInerney, J.D. Irving Ltd.'s vice president, communications, said in an email the company challenged the 2021 assessment of $27 million given to the paper mill soon after receiving it. The amount was $3.7 million (16 per cent) higher than the 2020 assessment.   

With a decision on that dispute still pending, the company then challenged the mill's 2022 assessment which Service New Brunswick had issued in the meantime for $27.3 million, a one per cent increase from the 2021 amount.

A tall ofice building on a city corner. J.D. Irving Ltd. is New Brunswick's largest forestry company. It runs a pulp, paper and tissue mill in Saint John that will pay a combined $4.7 million in municipal and provincial property tax in 2023. That is down from $6.4 million it paid in 2012. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

Twin Rivers Paper Company followed a similar pattern with assessment increases it got at the same time on its pulp mill.

Sometime earlier this year, Service New Brunswick informed both companies their challenges had been successful. In Irving's case, the agency lowered the assessment on the mill by $3.5 million in each of the two years in dispute. The reduction for Twin Rivers is closer to $4 million per year. 

It is the right decision, according to McInerney.

The review "was successful given economic challenges in the paper industry, including consumers' growing reliance on screens over paper," she said.

'Property should be assessed at a lower value'

Caryn King, the director of strategic marketing with Twin Rivers, agreed. 

"We concluded that it merited an appeal and we availed ourselves of one through Service New Brunswick, as any ratepayer is permitted to request," said King in an email.

"We agree with Service NB's determination that our property should be assessed at a lower value."

The lower assessments require property tax refunds to J.D. Irving Ltd of about $170,000 of what was billed on the mill for the 2021 year and $165,000 for 2022. The refund for Twin Rivers is closer to something over $180,000 for each year.

A smokestack is visible through a cluster of trees. The Twin Rivers Paper Company pulp mill in Edmundston is a major employer and tax payer in northeastern New Brunswick. It will save about $180,000 per year in property tax with assessment reductions it has won from the province. (Étienne Dumont)

Over half of those amounts involve municipal property taxes that were paid to Saint John and Edmundston, although the province alone will pay the refunds since it is responsible for assessments and revisions.

However, the mill's reduced assessment will lower tax revenue to the cities going forward. Lowe said that is a problem, and he questions why Service New Brunswick wouldn't have more faith in the extensive work it did assessing the mills and deciding on the increase.

"They put it up, and they reduced what they put up by 90 per cent," said Lowe. 

"They did a two-year study of it and they were wrong by 90 per cent. How could anybody do that? They should be replaced." 

Longstanding issue

Property taxes on the mills have been a hot issue for the last decade.

In 2012, the two plants were assessed to be worth a combined $113.1 million by Service New Brunswick, and they paid municipal and provincial property taxes that year of $5.5 million. 

In 2013, Service New Brunswick dropped their assessments almost in half as part of a province-wide reduction granted to all pulp and paper mills to help them weather tough markets. 

More assessment decreases followed in subsequent years until 2019, when the assessed value of the two mills had fallen to a combined $45.2 million, and they were paying $2.203 million in annual property taxes — 60 per cent less than in 2012.

A stone sign in front of some green trees with ettering on it that says Irving Paper. Irving Paper employs 325 people on Saint John's east side. It bills itself as North America's largest 'supercalendared' paper producer, with an annual production capacity of 410,000 tonnes. (Roger Cosman/CBC)

In 2019, Lowe was a Saint John MLA and he initiated two days of hearings at the legislature into how major industrial properties are assessed and taxed in New Brunswick.

At those hearings, Service New Brunswick officials revealed a major, multi-year and in-depth "reinspection" of pulp and paper mill properties was underway to follow up on the 2013 reductions, and the province would be resetting assessments at new levels based on the results.

"They are significant properties and they are complex properties. It takes us two to three years to actually do a full, complete reinspection," then-executive director of assessment services, Stephen Ward, told the hearing.

"We have three people on our heavy industrial team. They are specialists. They specialize in these heavy industrial properties. That is all they do, heavy industrial property valuation. They are trained. They are specialized with specific expertise in the valuation of these properties."

'Enduring consequences'

Service New Brunswick eventually increased the assessed value of the Irving paper mill and Twin Rivers pulp mill in 2021, based on that specialized and in-depth review, by $3.7 million and $4 million respectively.   

Although not pleased with the decision at the time, J.D. Irving Ltd. did acknowledge in a press release the 2021 assessments were the result of an "independent review of market values," and it had been given a chance to present its side of the issue.

"We co-operated fully with the work of Service New Brunswick," said the company.

Two years later, Service New Brunswick has retracted most of the increased valuations on the two mills but with little explanation as to why.

In an email, Service New Brunswick confirmed that it did change the assessments after the companies asked for a review and said that is part of normal reviews and market analysis it does on all properties to identify whether "improvements or changes" are required.

Lowe is not sure he believes that, but said whatever caused the change it will have enduring consequences.

"I just shake my head when they do things like this," said Lowe.

"It affects us in the years to come. We will definitely be getting less taxes in the city than we got in 2021." 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Robert Jones

Reporter

Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006.

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A protester ran onstage at the Juno Awards, and Avril Lavigne had some words

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A protester ran onstage at the Juno Awards, and Avril Lavigne had some words

The pop star was surprised by a topless guest while introducing one of the evening's performers

Avril Lavigne reacts to a protestor at the Junos

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Avril Lavigne was caught by surprise on Monday night at the Juno Awards when she was greeted by an unexpected protester.
 Award shows are live, and even though producers work tirelessly to make sure everything goes smoothly, sometimes surprises can still arise. 

On Monday evening, Avril Lavigne took the stage at the 2023 Juno Awards in Edmonton and was greeted by an unexpected guest. There to introduce one of the evening's performers, Punjabi-Canadian rapper and singer AP Dhillon, Lavigne was reading from the teleprompter when a topless person appeared behind her. When Lavigne finally spotted the person, whose back had the words "save the green belt" written on it, she yelled, "Get the f--k off." After security escorted the protester offstage, Lavigne tried to bring the attention back to Dhillon, telling the stunned crowd, "This is his moment." 

Lavigne later returned to the Junos stage when she won the night's final award, the TikTok Juno fan choice. When she walked up to receive the trophy, she was quick to warn anyone else who wanted to crash the stage: "Now nobody try anything this time or the Canadian is going to come out of me, and I'm going to f--k a bitch up." 

Backstage, Lavigne laughed, telling people in the media room: "That's definitely going down as one of the highlights." Host Simu Liu added, "It was just the most Canadian way ever that she was just gently escorted offstage." 

When she wasn't cursing up a storm, Lavigne took time to thank her fans, who helped the pop-punk star win the fan choice honour. "Last year, I celebrated the 20th anniversary of my debut album, Let Go," she said. In those years, she noted that she's "seen the industry change so much — music change, the business change, technology change; trends come and go, artists come and go — but the one thing that's been most consistent for me is my fan base over the past 20 years."

Last year, Lavigne also released her seventh studio album, Love Sux, which marked her return to pop-punk. The album and its lead single "Bite Me" scored five Juno nominations this year, making her the second-most nominated act. The TikTok Juno fan choice was her only win.

 
 
 
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Envirem Organics says high levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in Maine were from paper mills, not municipal sewage

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Envirem Organics says high levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in Maine were from paper mills, not municipal sewage

Envirem Organics, a compost and environmental remediation company, says it applies strict standards to what kind of waste it accepts — and even then, it can't spread the Maine sludge on farms and won't use it in the compost it bags for retail sale.

"We don't bag municipal biosolids," Envirem CEO Bob Kiely said in an interview.

He said any waste from municipal systems in Maine is destined for Envirem's work cleaning up contaminated sites, where some bacterial strains in waste can help break down contaminants such as petroleum.

And besides, Kiely added, Envirem has set its own standard for acceptable levels of PFAS  — perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances  —  linked by peer-reviewed studies to some cancers, decreased fertility, low birth weights and other effects.

A farm field with a large black area. Biosolids, or sludge, seen here in an agricultural field in Quebec. That province recently imposed a moratorium on imports of sludge for agricultural spreading. (Francois Genest/Radio-Canada)

Envirem accepts waste with a maximum of 20 to 30 per cent of the PFAS amounts permitted in guidelines being drafted by the federal and New Brunswick governments, Kiely said.

He called that "very low levels, in parts per billion, that are only showing up because labs have evolved."

The New Brunswick government confirmed that Ottawa is looking at adopting standards for PFAS that would apply to imported biosolids.

Envirem found itself in the spotlight last week after it emerged that Casella Waste Systems is trucking 2,200 metric tonnes of waste from municipal sewage plants in Maine to New Brunswick.

Casella's landfill north of Bangor is overcapacity because of a new ban in Maine on municipal biosolids, or sludge, being spread on farmland in the state.

Quebec recently imposed a moratorium on imports of sludge to the province for agricultural spreading.

The Maine ban was prompted by alarm in the state over high levels of PFAS found in farm products.

A close-up photo of biolsolid matter in a crop field.      A new law which took effect Feb. 8 bans the use of the sludge for agricultural production in Maine. Maine's Defend Our Health, an activist organization, lobbied for the ban. (Francois Genest/Radio-Canada)

Kiely, who helped found Envirem and has been CEO since 2010, said "almost all" of those levels were traced back not to municipal sludge in Maine but to several large paper plants in the state using PFAS at levels that no longer exist.

Those levels were measured at parts per million, a thousand times more than the parts per billion. 

"That was because of an industrial contaminant that entered the municipal system. That is not a typical municipal biosolid," Kiely said.

"This is not current, this is historic when there was other types of PFAS that was used." 

Kiely's assertion was disputed Tuesday by Sarah Woodbury of Maine's Defend Our Health, an activist organization that lobbied for the ban on sludge spreading in the state.

"It's 100 per cent not correct," she said.

Woodbury said after some initial findings that farms were contaminated with PFAS, the state's Department of Environmental Protection imposed a maximum standard for the chemicals in sludge used in agriculture.

State screening found 95 per cent of the samples had higher levels than the state's allowable threshold — and that sludge came from both industrial and municipal sources, Woodbury said. 

"The argument that the contamination is coming from the industrial sludge is incorrect. The DEP's own data show that that's incorrect." 

Any level of exposure 'not acceptable,' says activist

In 2021, media reports in Maine said 164 PFAS-contaminated wells were near crops fertilized with sludge from the Kennebec Sanitary Treatment District, whose biggest source of wastewater was a paper mill in Waterville using the chemicals. 

The district spread the sludge on farms under a state program, now eliminated, that aimed to reuse waste rather than add it to landfills.

Woodbury also disagreed with Kiely's claim that Envirem's own PFAS thresholds ensure levels are below any potential risk to human health.

She pointed out that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency unveiled strict new rules for PFAS levels in drinking water on Tuesday.

"Any level of exposure from our perspective is not acceptable," she said.

'They're everywhere'

Kiely said PFAS in municipal water systems would be "a very bad thing," but said the chemicals are part of daily life at low levels.

"PFAS are ubiquitous.... They're everywhere in society, unfortunately, but they are being reduced, especially in industrial users," he said.

"They're continuing to go down as we phase products out," he said. "Levels are continuing to decline.… The worst ones have been banned." 

He said all the compost in Envirem products is subject to federal rules.

"We test and these levels are very, very low, close to non-detectable. These are coming from small towns without potential industrial contaminants today. There is no risk of high PFAS levels coming from these sludges today." 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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Take 5 with 2021 Top 50 CEO award winner Robert Kiely

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As president and general manager of Envirem Organics Inc., Robert Kiely has led his group to become Canada’s largest private compost and organic residuals management company. He has grown his business in 10 years to approximately $30 million in revenue, more than 150 employees and has established a U.S. company and operation to facilitate Envirem’s export growth.

For this episode of Take 5 with the Top 50, Greg MacDonald, senior manager tax services with Top 50 CEO presenting sponsor Grant Thornton—digs deeper to find out what makes this award-winning leader tick.

The conversation kicks off by exploring how and why Kiely, a professional engineer, transitioned from road building to the environmental sector (hint: it relates to the substrate the two sectors have in common).

MacDonald then asks for the business case for going green. A lot of people think being environmentally conscious is the right thing to do, but that it’s more of an expense than an investment. Using Envirem as an example, Kiely talks about green’s impressive ROI.

Other topics covered in this insightful discussion include Kiely’s management style (coach, GM or umpire?), the surprising intersection of innovation and organic waste, plus Kiely’s long-term plans for Envirem – and how he plans to get there.

For each episode of Atlantic Business Magazine’s Take 5 with the Top 50 CEOs video series, we ask five questions of a Top 50 CEO award winner.

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President of Envirem Organics, Robert Kiely is a first-time Top 50 CEO award winner. Envirem is a diversified environmental company specializing in organic bio-products for lawn and garden, turf and landscape, organic agriculture and biofuel markets. It is the largest private compost and organics residuals management company in Canada. Sponsored by Grant Thornton
 
  

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NFU Region 1, District 1 Elected Officials

Douglas Campbell

District Director

902-436-2518

Ranald
MacFarlane

Local 102 President

Edith Ling

Women's District Director

902-368-1262

Darren Toombs

Local 104 President

902-394-1690

Byron Petrie

National Board Member &

Region 1 Coordinator

902-213-5862


 

WOMEN'S DISTRICT DIRECTOR'S REPORT TO THE DISTRICT 1, REGION 1 CONVENTION

Milton Community Hall

April 20, 2022

Good morning, everyone. It is great to be able to meet together this year with fewer restrictions than we had last year at the time of the District Convention. Covid has made things difficult for many organizations and the NFU is not unique in this regard. Although it was possible to carry on meetings such as our National Convention via Zoom for the past two years, it is so much better to be able to meet in person. So welcome to this, your District Convention.

As Women's District Director, I attended District Board meetings during the year as well as meetings of the Coalition for the Protection of P. E. I. Lands, and I also work on the Coalition for the Protection of P.E.I. Water. During the year the NFU had meetings with the Premier and with the Leader of the Official Opposition.

Once again this year, NFU members enjoyed a substantial discount at time of bulk delivery of diesel fuel, gasoline, furnace oil and lubricants. Island Petroleum added bulk propane to the list of products for which a discount is applied. Be sure to let Island Petroleum know you are a member of the NFU in order to be assured of receiving the discount. A new agreement has been negotiated for 2022 with the same company. As well, NFU members took part in our Collective Bargaining Agreement on fertilizer purchased through P. E. I. Agromart.

Because of Covid restrictions, we were not able to hold our annual lobster supper for the past two years. Hopefully we can soon do that again.

The National Farmers Union takes no money from Government and so we can say what has to be said, when it has to be said. We are often the targets of attack - be it personal or an attack on the organization itself. Well, I am here to tell you that the NFU is not an insignificant farm organization. On the contrary, we do represent a very significant number of farm families in this Province, who operate farms of all sizes, producing all commodities. We have been accused of being racist. There is nothing racist at all about trying to ensure that farm land in this Province remains in the hands of farm families who will live on the farm and keep the land in agricultural production. It is apparent that the derogatory remarks made by some people towards the NFU and its leadership are nothing more than a smoke screen to evade the issues rather than meeting them head on and properly answering the questions. I would want the perpetrators of these actions to know that their demeaning remarks will not stop the NFU from standing up for what is right and from working on behalf of all farm families in this Province and beyond.

We have found it is becoming increasingly difficult to reach the Premier and some Cabinet Ministers to request a meeting or get an answer to a question. Dozens of phone calls over a period of a few months went unanswered before we were able to meet with the Premier. This is not acceptable. It is high time that politicians realize who their employer is and extend due respect to the people who elected them. So, you can decide for yourself why no politicians are on our agenda here today!

As you are aware, the Lands Protection Act has been amended. We were advised by the Minister of Agriculture and his lawyers that we will have to wait to see if the amended Act will eliminate the circumvention of the Act which we have witnessed for years in the past. When asked how long he would wait to correct the situation if it is found that the amended Act is not strong enough, the Minister of Agriculture replied with the usual vague political answer. Time will tell if the amended Act is strong enough to put an end to the violations of the Act.

Potato Wart - This situation has proven devastating for many farm families in the Province. Although table stock potatoes can now move into the US market, the seed industry is in a critical situation as seed cannot be shipped to the US or to any province in Canada. Many questions remain unanswered -why were trees not planted in the index fields in 2000 and in subsequent years? Will they be planted in these fields this year? Why was Cavendish Farms allowed to plant the highly susceptible variety Russet Burbank in these fields only five years after detection? What are the requirements that the US agreed to recently which resulted in the opening of the border for table stock potatoes? Why has this not been made public? There is no transparency there. In downplaying the seriousness of the potato wart situation, the Manager of the Potato Board, Greg Donald stated that he could put all the wart potatoes that had been found in his half-ton truck box. Well, I would suggest to Mr. Donald that one potato is one too many in this case. We need an eradication plan for potato wart, not only a management plan.

It is clear that the Irving empire is in the driver's seat in this Province on this and on many other issues. It has been interesting to watch the steps being taken which will lead to this province becoming a processing province. Just imagine the additional control Irving will have over the farmers then. Now we learn that the Minister of Agriculture and also IRAC consider the current owners of Red Fox Acres Ltd. (owned by Rebecca Irving) to be in compliance with the provisions of the Lands Protection Act as they have divested some land by way of a global lease to Lady Slipper Farms. Lady Slipper Farms is an Irving- owned corporation in N B. So she takes the land out of one hand and places it in the other. Nothing has changed - the land is still in Irving hands. What a deviation from the provisions of the Lands Protection Act! I checked out the meaning of "divest" in the Oxford dictionary. This is what it says: "Divest" is defined as to deprive someone of power, rights, or possessions - to rid oneself of something. What happened here is a blatant disregard for the laws of this Province. We never did see the Brendel Farms report although the Agriculture Minister promised it would be made public. That is not transparency. Island Holdings Ltd. has co-presidents and co-chief executive officers. They are Robert K. Irving and James D. Irving. James K. Irving is the Chairman and the shareholders are Grand Forest Holdings Inc. in New Brunswick. Island Holdings Ltd. has been attempting to buy land in the Freetown area. The request has been declined on two occasions and rightfully so. It will be interesting to see if they can invent a way to circumvent the Act once again. The Minister of Agriculture is reported to have said it could be because the advertising of the land was not done according to IRAC rules. There is a much bigger reason than this why they should not get the land.

We are in a serious situation in this Province when we have a Government which got elected on the mantra "For the People". Once in office this was soon forgotten but will probably be unwrapped again in time for the next election.

In the meantime, let us keep telling it like it is and continue to work for programs and policies which are in the best interest of our farm families.

In closing, I would like to pay tribute to District Director, Doug Campbell who has worked tirelessly in that position for the past six years. It has been extremely rare that Doug and I have not seen eye to eye on any issue. If that ever did happen, we always were able to come to a mutually agreeable solution and move ahead. It was a real pleasure to work with you, Doug. Thanks to our Secretary Dan and Treasurer Darlene for all their help during the year. Thanks too to the Local Presidents and our national representatives for your help with the work in this District over the past year. Special thanks must go to Marie Burge who is always willing to help the NFU in any endeavour. We know she is a busy woman who works on many other issues, and this makes us even more grateful for her help. After sixteen years in this position, I feel I have more than completed the course. However, I remain strongly committed to the philosophy of the NFU and will be glad to help out in any way I can in the days ahead. It has been quite a ride, and a tremendous education. Thank you all!

Respectfully submitted,

Edith Ling

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Cooper Institute Members Celebrating 30th Anniversary

Cooper Institute members at the organization's 30th anniversary celebration, May 7, 2014: (left to right) back row - Joe Byrne, Irene Burge, Maureen Larkin, Irene Doyle, Marie Hendricken, Leah MacLeod; front row - Ann Wheatley, Josie Baker, Marie Burge, Eddie Cormier, Debbie Theuerkauf, Reg Phelan

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Cooper Institute is a development education centre engaged in popular education and research. The institute was established in 1984 and is a registered charity (#10114 4541 RR0001). Cooper Institute works in partnership with other groups that are organized for social change. 

Land Grabbing in Prince Edward Island

With Keynote Speaker Senator Diane Griffin

Saturday, February 23, 2019

Land Grabbing on PEI: How the Lands Protection Act is being violated and why Islanders should be concerned: Saturday, February 23 from 1:30 to 4:00 pm at the PEI Farm Centre. Hosted by the Coalitions for the Protection of PEI Land and Water.

The Coalition for the Protection of PEI Land with support from the Coalition for the Protection of PEI Water will host a forum entitled ‘Land Grabbing on PEI: How the Lands Protection Act is being violated and why Islanders should be concerned’, on Saturday, February 23rd at the Farm Centre, 420 University Avenue in Charlottetown from 1:30-4pm. Storm date: March 16,2019.
 
Senator Diane Griffin, chair of the Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry, will lead a panel of presenters with a summary of her research on land grabbing and speculation in Canada and beyond. Other panelists include Douglas Campbell, District Director for the National Farmers Union on PEI and Island writer, Ian Petrie, who is well-known for his thoughtful analyses on PEI farming issues.
 
The Coalition for the Protection of PEI Land was formed last spring by a group of concerned islanders from a diverse range of backgrounds. The purpose of the Coalition is to promote steadfast stewardship, respecting the spirit of the PEI Lands Protection Act, for the protection of Prince Edward Island’s fragile ecology, environment, watersheds and lands. Given the current trend of accumulation of land by corporate interests, the coalition will first address deficiencies in the PEI Lands Protection Act (in the Act itself, and in the way it is being implemented) that undermine its purpose, spirit and intent. 
 
Coalition founder,Marie Burge, describes the purpose of the group like this:”Community organizations and individuals came together in early 2018 to form the Coalition for the Protection of PEI Lands as a support for the many Islanders who are deeply concerned about the land. The people see that the control of the land is in fewer and fewer hands. They are concerned about any further consolidation of land and about how land is being used and often abused. The Coalition encourages more people to speak out for the protection of PEI lands.”
 
Following presentations by the panelists, there will be a short Q&A and then participants will be asked to help contribute to possible solutions. This forum will be relevant to any islander who is concerned about preserving PEI land for now and into the future.
 
Contact: Marie Burge 902-894-4573

 

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Charlottetown, PEI
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Phone: 902-894-4573

 

 

 


THURSDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2022 AT 7 PM – 9 PM

Beyond Maritime Electric: Fighting Climate Change Through Public Energy & Transit

PEI Farm Centre, University Avenue, Charlottetown
 

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PEI Farm Centre, University Avenue, Charlottetown
Duration: 2 hr
Public Anyone on or off Facebook
A public forum with presentations by:
Tynette Deveaux – Tynette works with the Sierra Club's Beyond Coal campaign.
Scott Edgar – an activist with It's More Than Buses, a Halifax group which lobbies to extend and improve the Halifax transit system.
Karen Jackson - President of PEI Union of Public Sector Employees.
Music by Anne Quinn and Tony Reddin
Presented by Trade Justice PEI, this forum will celebrate the vision of Ron Kelly who died a year ago. Ron's vision was for a more just and sustainable PEI. He was a big believer in the importance of public ownership of key services and enterprises in a worker-friendly transition to a carbon-free economy particularly in the areas of energy and public transit.

 

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N.B. National Farmers Union leader wants to help farms grow so they can feed province

'I know that New Brunswick can feed New Brunswick,' farmer Eva Rehak says

"I enjoy farming and I want to see it prosper," Eva Rehak said Monday of her goal to help others succeed. "It's getting the help and prosperity to continue growing. 

"I know that New Brunswick can feed New Brunswick."

Rehak, who co-owns and operates Alva Farm with her partner, Alain Rousselle, and their children in Saint-Maurice, near Bouctouche, has been on the union's board for 10 years and served as the women's president and on the national board. 

She didn't grow up on a farm, but she studied agricultural technology and gained experience with community-shared agriculture programs before buying the farm in New Brunswick. 

Rehak said her farm produces 45 different vegetables, some fruits and herbs both outside and in a greenhouse. 

Dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic was worrying for many farmers, but Rehak said many, including her farm, saw a higher demand for fresh produce.

"I think it made us realize that we need to support our farmers and to basically nourish the New Brunswick people."

Labour issues need resolution

A labour shortage needs to be resolved, she said, although it's not a job that many want to do and the pay isn't great.

"Farming is a very hard job, if I can put it in that sense. It's, like, labour-intensive, so it's not very attractive to a lot of people when we have to pay kind of the minimum wage." 

Any wage subsidy would help offset labour costs, she said. 

Eva Rehak, her husband Allain and their three kids run the Alva Farm in Saint-Maurice in eastern New Brunswick. (CBC)

Rehak said she'd also like to see programs such as the fruit and vegetable industry development program continue for a few years to encourage farmers to grow things normally brought in from other parts of Canada or from outside it. 

She used her own farm as an example.

"We don't do pineapples and citrus fruits and things like that. We don't have the climate for it. But we can do sweet potatoes. We can do a bunch of Asian foods, vegetables, the broccoli, tomatoes, the classics." 

She said the program helped the farm build another greenhouse, so it could start growing food earlier in the year and  later. 

Rehak added the program has helped many new farms start up.

"So with small-scale or diverse farms, if we can help those, then we could be self-sufficient with food sovereignty here in New Brunswick." 

With files from Information Morning Moncton

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3 years later and the Farmers are still playing dumb
 
 

Methinks they should have talked to me a long time ago N'esy Pas?

 

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Chickens greet opening of New Brunswick legislature

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/nova-scotia-chicken-farmers-avian-flu-1.6774555 

 

N.S. chicken farmers worry about spread of avian flu

'We're keeping a very close eye on things,' says Chicken Farmers of Nova Scotia chair

Chicken farmers in Nova Scotia are concerned about the threat of avian influenza — also known as bird flu — after cases of the disease were discovered in a backyard flock in Port Maitland.

The outbreak in the small flock in southwestern Nova Scotia reported last weekend is the first detection of the disease in poultry in almost a year and the second that has been detected in the province in nearly a year.

According to the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, the flock of about 20 birds has been killed. The previous detection was of avian influenza in a commercial poultry operation in Nova Scotia was in March 2022.

Amy VanderHeide, the chair of the Chicken Farmers of Nova Scotia, said on Information Morning on Thursday that farmers are concerned about the possibility of widespread bird flu in the aftermath of the most recent outbreak.

"We know that that's going to bring an influx of avian influenza with it, so we're keeping a very close eye on things," VanderHeide said.

The coming spring months are critical, she added, as the disease can follow migratory pathways that are travelled by birds that are flying across countries during the warmer months.

VanderHeide said bird flu is often carried by geese and other waterfowl, like ducks and swans. Kings County happens to be the home of a large part of the province's poultry industry, she said, so an outbreak there would impact the industry across Nova Scotia.

Now, the focus is on biosecurity measures, VanderHeide said. Those include keeping entryways disinfected, changing clothes when moving between farms and keeping wild birds out of commercial flocks.

The CFIA say some symptoms of avian flu to look for include:

  • a drop in production of eggs, many of which are soft-shelled or have no shells.
  • diarrhea.
  • haemorrhages on the hock.
  • high and sudden mortality rate.
  • quietness and extreme depression.
  • swelling of the skin under the eyes.
  • wattles and combs become swollen and congested.

Labs in Ontario, Manitoba and New Brunswick are equipped to test for the infection and can provide results in one to two days or more, depending on the lab's capacity.

'Fast-moving virus'

"When there is a suspected case of avian influenza, every hour counts," she said. "It's a very fast-moving virus, so every hour that we're waiting for those tests, [is] an hour that we could be doing further things to reduce the spread."

Long waits for test results are why chicken farmers in the province are calling on the province to improve testing in Nova Scotia — something that would involve upgrading labs that currently exist to improve wastewater and ventilation systems, among other changes.

There's also a need to hire accredited lab staff that are trained to diagnose infections, she said.

VanderHeide said with the growing concerns about spread to commercial flocks, it's not enough for testing needs in Nova Scotia to be met by labs outside of the province, especially considering testing priority depends on capacity and urgency.

"It's really just trying to find out where we're supposed to go with this and who can support this initiative and get us what we need to react faster," VanderHeide said.

Earlier this week, the provincial Liberals also made a call for flu testing in Nova Scotia.

"The current system involves sending samples out-of-province, sometimes as far as Guelph, Ontario or Winnipeg, Manitoba, resulting in long wait times for results and greater disruptions to farm operations," the statement reads.

"New Brunswick had their Fredericton lab certified last year. Newfoundland and PEI have plans to ensure their own testing capacity. The introduction of a lab in Nova Scotia would mean a quicker turnaround for diagnosis and any safety protocols to follow."


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An AI drew New Brunswick's political leaders as Muppets. This is the result

Former Fredericton man uses software program to reimagine Higgs, Coon and Holt

Thanks to the advancement of technology, though, he didn't need artistic skills to draw New Brunswick's political leaders as Muppets — artificial intelligence did it for him.

A blue Muppet with white hair and glasses. Artificial intelligence Midjourney drew Premier Blaine Higgs as a blue Muppet. (Submitted by Lyle Skinner/Midjourney)

Skinner, an Ottawa constitutional lawyer who grew up just outside of Fredericton, asked an AI called Midjourney, a software that uses written prompts to produce images, to draw Premier Blaine Higgs, Green Party Leader David Coon and Liberal Leader Susan Holt as Muppets.

"Obviously, it's all in good fun," Skinner said.

A red Muppet with short, blonde hair wearing a red t-shirt and a black jacket. Liberal Leader Susan Holt got the red Muppet treatment. (Submitted by Lyle Skinner/Midjourney)

While Susan Holt appears to appreciate the humour — she changed her Twitter profile picture to her artificially-designed Muppet — Skinner said he hasn't heard from Higgs or Coon about their puppet identities.

Skinner said people often discuss serious issues on social media, making this "just an opportunity to be a little silly."

A green Muppet wearing a suit and spectacles. Green Party Leader David Coon was drawn, rather appropriately, as a green Muppet. (Submitted by Lyle Skinner/Midjourney)

Skinner isn't done. Next, he plans to ask the AI to draw New Brunswick's MLAs throwing pies at each other in the Legislative Assembly in 1940s comic-book style, he said.

A red Muppet appears as the profile picture in a Twitter screenshot. Susan Holt changed her Twitter profile picture to the AI-engineered Muppet version of herself. (Twitter)

While he couldn't say he has a favourite among the three Muppets the AI has already drawn, Skinner said he did enjoy the Cookie Monster pin drawn on Higgs's jacket.

"That was slightly humorous," he said.

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Lets see the lawyer make one of himself 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Trudeau picks former governor general David Johnston to probe election meddling claims

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Trudeau picks former governor general David Johnston to probe election meddling claims

Johnston was appointed governor general by then-Prime Minister Stephen Harper

Former governor general to lead election interference investigation

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Prime Minister Trudeau has appointed former governor general David Johnston to oversee the investigation into accusations of Chinese meddling in Canada's last two elections.
 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has tapped former governor general David Johnston to investigate claims that China meddled in Canada's last two elections.

Trudeau said last week that he would name an "eminent" and independent person as a special rapporteur on election interference. He said the special rapporteur "will have a wide mandate and make expert recommendations on combating interference and strengthening our democracy."

Johnston was appointed governor general in 2010 by then-Prime Minister Stephen Harper. He held that role until 2017.

Johnston is currently the head of the independent Leaders' Debates Commission an independent body that oversees leaders' debates during federal election campaigns. He will step down from that role to act as the new rapporteur, according to a news release from the Prime Minister's Office [PMO].

"David Johnston brings integrity and a wealth of experience and skills, and I am confident that he will conduct an impartial review to ensure all necessary steps are being taken to keep our democracy safe and uphold and strengthen confidence in it," Trudeau said in a media statement Wednesday.

WATCH | David Johnston is 'unimpeachable,' says minister

David Johnston is 'unimpeachable,' says minister

Duration 9:50
"He is, in fact, unimpeachable as a choice for the special rapporteur," says Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino. "I know he looks forward to starting that work very quickly."

Opposition pushing for inquiry

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh have been pushing for a public inquiry on foreign election interference.

Trudeau said the rapporteur could recommend a formal inquiry and that he would abide by that recommendation.

Johnston played a similar role in the past. In 2007, Harper picked the then-law professor to draft the terms of reference for what would become the Oliphant Commission, which probed former prime minister Brian Mulroney's business dealings with German-Canadian businessman Karlheinz Schreiber

The PMO statement said that all parties were consulted on Johnston's appointment, but it doesn't say to what extent.

WATCH | NDP welcomes Johnston appointment but still wants a public inquiry

NDP welcomes Johnston appointment but still wants a public inquiry

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"This is a solid step forward," says NDP MP Rachel Blaney of David Johnston's appointment as special rapporteur to review alleged foreign interference in the last two federal elections. "Hopefully, what we'll see is a public inquiry."

NDP MP Rachel Blaney told CBC News Network's Power & Politics she is "content" with the decision to appoint Johnston — but the party still wants to see a public inquiry.

"Canadians need a sense of trust. They need to know their institutions work for them," she told host David Cochrane, adding that Johnston's work and recommendations need to be transparent.

"I think that Mr. Johnston is going to have to be held to a high account. Canadians are watching this very carefully."

Reacting to Johnston's appointment, Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet issued a statement repeating his own call for a public inquiry.

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is pictured gesturing at an announcement in B.C. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre speaks during an announcement and news conference, in New Westminster, B.C., on Tuesday, March 14, 2023. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)

Prior to Wednesday's announcement, Poilievre cast doubt on the claim that the rapporteur would be independent.

"[Trudeau] could pick someone independent but he won't," Poilievre told reporters last week.

Poilievre said last week that his party will continue to push for a public inquiry into recent media reports that claim China took steps to ensure a minority Liberal government was returned in 2021 and that certain Conservative candidates were defeated.

Other reporting alleged intelligence officials warned Trudeau that China's campaign of interference included funding a "clandestine network of at least 11 federal candidates running in the 2019 election."

A panel of public servants tasked with monitoring election incidents reported that it did not detect foreign interference that threatened Canada's ability to hold free and fair elections in either 2019 or 2021. The panel did say there were attempts to interfere in both campaigns, according to reports highlighting its work.

But Conservatives called into question the most recent report — written by former public servant Morris Rosenberg — over the author's past affiliations.

From 2014 to 2018. Rosenberg served as CEO of the Trudeau Foundation, which funds and promote academic and public interest research.

Rosenberg's tenure was marked by controversy when it was revealed that Zhang Bin, an adviser to the Chinese government, attended a private fundraising dinner with Prime Minister Trudeau and donated thousands of dollars to the charity that bears his father's name. The foundation recently returned the donation.

Rosenberg's report recommended that the election monitoring panel's scope be expanded to include the periods leading up to election campaigns.

Tory deputy leader questions Johnston appointment

On Wednesday, Conservative Deputy Leader Melissa Lantsman questioned the need for a special rapporteur and pointed to Johnston's own affiliation with the Trudeau Foundation. The organization lists Johnston — who has worked at a number of Canadian universities — as a member.

"Maybe it would be best to find someone not associated with [the foundation]?" she tweeted. "Or, just call a public inquiry."

Wednesday's news release said that Johnston's mandate hasn't been set yet. Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino was asked on Power & Politics if Johnston's mandate would allow him to look beyond the campaign periods themselves.

"He will have a sufficiently wide and flexible mandate," he said. "He will have the kind of robust access that he needs to classified information."

Mendicino was also pressed to say how soon Johnston will put forward his recommendations. The minister didn't offer any specifics but did say Johnston's work is "urgent."

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Erin Morriston
That... is surprisingly reasonable. Good job Justin. 
 
 
Fritz Mahngoy 
Reply to Erin Morriston
Yeah, it was a tough job for our hardworking PM. 
 
 
Margaret Bricknell 
Reply to Erin Morriston
Hardly surprising. I thought it would be a good choice , or Louise Arbour. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Erin Morriston  
Deja Vu Anyone???

Trudeau snubs Munk, Maclean's/Citytv debates but will attend commission debates

David Cochrane · CBC News · Posted: Sep 05, 2019 5:57 PM

"The two debates that Trudeau has committed to attending are being organized by the Leaders' Debates Commission, which was established after the last election and is led by former governor general David Johnston."

 
David Amos
Reply to Margaret Bricknell
Believe it or not I expected it 
 
 
 
 
 
Brenda Holmstrom
all people want is the truth and hopefully Mr. Johnston will be able to let us know what really is happening with China without any interference from the PM and the PMO. 
 
 
Margaret Bricknell
Reply to Brenda Holmstrom 
Or the CPC who desperately want to see problems.
 
 
Margaret Wade 
Reply to Margaret Bricknell 
No, sorry. We want honesty and transparency. That's all.  
 
 
Brenda Holmstrom
Reply to Brenda Holmstrom 
there is more of a chance of him being stifled by the PM than by any of the opposition parties  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Margaret Wade  
Good luck with that 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Margaret Bricknell
Good- that was my first choice. Appointed by Harper, worked well as a non partisan. He may have met Trudeau at some point, but Poilievre will be hard pressed to show any problems. 
 
 
Neil Turv
Reply to Margaret Bricknell 
Agreed,

I'm still not happy with the filibuster or the choice of using a rapporteur in general, but I have no criticisms of this individual.

 
Ted Thompson 
Reply to Margaret Bricknell  
Next up is what is he allowed to do/see.

Naming a person and not allowing him to see everything is wrong.

 
Margaret Bricknell
Reply to Ted Thompson 
I'm sure he has security clearance.  
 
 
Ted Thompson
Reply to Margaret Bricknell 
Does not mean he can see everything.

Point is will there be any restrictions on what he can see.

We have seen this before with the liberals........only allow so much to be seen.

 
Marie Harris 
Reply to Margaret Bricknell 
I’m sure he is currently locked away in his office trying to come up with something to find fault with.
 
 
Marie Harris
Reply to Ted Thompson
What do you think is going to be shown at a public inquiry that will not be shown to Johnston in making his deliberation? There are a lot, if not most security details that the public will never be privy too, nor should they be. There is secrecy in security for very good reasons and a public inquiry would not override that requirement for some things to be kept under wraps. When former CICS leaders have been interviewed, they disagree on whether or not there should be a public inquiry, so I’m not sure how the average Canadian can just make the decision that a public inquiry is the way to go.     
 
 
Ted Thompson  
Reply to Marie Harris
Trudeau has already stated Johnston will not have full access.

His report will also be limited to future interference issues.

The past chief electoral officer is calling for a full public inquiry.

 
Marie Harris
Reply to Ted Thompson 
My questions stands the same. What priviledged information do you think will be handed out on a silver platter to a public inquiry that would not be given to Johnston in making his decision? The government, CSIS and the office of the PMO are not going to hand over all Canadian top secret information to be discussed in a public venue. Why do people think it is wise thing to do that?
 
 
Ted Thompson  
Reply to Marie Harris 
SO now we will have a guy sworn to secrecy and not know what he was allowed to look at.

A secret process with the mandate being...secret and then reporting to the PM

 
David Amos
Reply to Margaret Bricknell
I expected it would be him because of what he did for Harper and Mulroney 
 
 
 
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberals-snub-debates-commision-1.5272277

Trudeau snubs Munk, Maclean's/Citytv debates but will attend commission debates

Liberal leader willing to do TVA debate if parties can agree on date


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is committing to taking part in two federal election debates and is willing to do a third — but will be a no-show for both the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates, despite efforts to convince the Liberal leader to take part.

The two debates that Trudeau has committed to attending are being organized by the Leaders' Debates Commission, which was established after the last election and is led by former governor general David Johnston.

"The commission was established after the last election where the governing party tried to game the system and make sure the fewest number of Canadians engaged in the debates. We think that's wrong," Daniel Lauzon, the Liberals' director of communications and policy for the campaign, said in a statement.

"The commission debates will be widely distributed on television, radio, digital and social streaming platforms and reach the largest possible audience."

The Liberals also have given a provisional yes to Quebec-based TVA to participate in a third debate if all parties can agree on a date. TVA is the only major Canadian network not included in the commission and commands the largest television audiences in Quebec.
The broadcasters taking part in the commission are:
  • CBC News.
  • Radio-Canada.
  • Global News.
  • CTV News.
  • The Toronto Star and the Torstar chain.
  • HuffPost Canada.
  • HuffPost Quebec.
  • La Presse.
  • Le Devoir.
  • L'Actualité.
The Quebec audience is one that Trudeau is keen to reach in this campaign. The Liberals are anticipating seat losses in Atlantic Canada and the Prairies. They hope to hang on to government by offsetting those losses with gains in Quebec and possibly Ontario.

While the Liberals are willing to do the TVA debate this time, a spokesperson says the party is trying to convince the broadcaster to participate in future commission debates.

'A formidable debater'

The decision means that Trudeau will not be taking part in the Munk Debates on foreign policy, set for Oct. 1 — a debate Trudeau did take part in during the 2015 election.


It also means the prime minister will not participate in the Maclean's/Citytv leaders debate scheduled to take place September 12.

So far, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Green Party Leader Elizabeth May have all agreed to participate in the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates.

A spokesperson for the Conservative Party said the debates are about Canadians, not the leaders, and Scheer would be attending all election debates.

"We know Justin Trudeau is a formidable debater, as he proved in the last election. The only reason he would have for not wanting to attend all the debates is that he's afraid to defend his record," Brock Harrison said in a statement.
During the 2015 election, then-prime minister Stephen Harper refused to participate in the English language debate being run by the consortium of broadcasters, the predecessor to the commission.

Harper instead agreed to participate in the Maclean's/Citytv debate and the Globe and Mail debate, on top of the French language consortium debate, TVAs' debate and the bilingual Munk debate on foreign policy.

The opposition at the time criticized Harper's decision to snub the English language consortium debate in favour of smaller debates, some of which were only streamed online, as a move that prevented the largest possible audience from viewing the exchanges between party leaders.

Trudeau was keen to participate in multiple debates in 2015 — an election that saw the longest campaign period in modern Canadian history. But Trudeau's critics now argue that he is cherry-picking debates for political reasons.

In the last election he was the third-party leader and had much to gain from engaging with other leaders at every opportunity. But as prime minister, Trudeau exposes himself to greater political risk by agreeing to additional debates.

"We're disappointed. Canadians deserve better. This is not the new politics Mr. Trudeau promised,"  NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said in a statement.

"It's hard to know which questions Mr. Trudeau didn't want to be accountable to. Why did you buy a pipeline? Why did you give the Weston family $12 million for fridges, but yet can't find the money for a Pharmacare program? Why do you care more about helping your wealthy friends than hard-working families?"

"I'm not surprised he doesn't want to answer these questions because he wouldn't answer me when I asked him in Parliament. But he should answer to Canadians."

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May said she has mixed feelings.

May said she supports the purpose of the debate commission since she had been left off the stage in past years.

"Debates are a constant source of backroom dealing and anti-democratic collusion," she told CBC.
However, May said, she would rather see more debates than fewer, and called Trudeau's decision to skip out on the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates a "shame."

The Liberals say Trudeau's refusal to do more than three debates is about logistics. The election hasn't officially started but it will be a more conventional five or six-week campaign, not the marathon writ period of 2015. Each debate takes several days of preparation and limits the campaign's ability to travel away from the debate sites — which are exclusively in Ontario and Quebec.


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Rick Ward
JT wants to control the narrative....what a better way to that than avoiding an environment wheras he could be asked some pointed questions that he is unable to answer on the spot.....surprised he is not demanding a list of the questions in advance so he can "study" what the response should be........the man is not a quick thinker on his feet for sure


David Amos 
Reply to @rick ward: I concur






Larry Porter
Where is the PPC they have a full slate of candidates. Why is the Bloc included? They are not a national party!! Has nobody got the gonads to throw them out? Lets hear from everybody not the chosen ones!!


David Amos  
Reply to @Larry Porter: Methinks you should say hey to your hero the politcal lawyer Maxime Bernier for me EH?. Trust that everybody knows he has had Hard Copy of my lawsuits etc since he first became a Cabinet Minister for Harper in 2006 now you do too N'esy Pas?






Rick Ward
Plucky Chicken wants to be in control of the narrative. Drunk on their own arrogance recently scribed a CBC reporter in reference to the current regime in Ottawa.


David Amos 
Reply to @rick ward: Methinks the worm is turning N'esy Pas? 
 

Rick Ward
Reply to @David Amos: methink u right dave....but u think it will have any impact?


David Amos  
Reply to @rick ward: Methinks the tune the fat lady sings in October will the true tale until then its just hot air Everybody knows I look forward to playing my part in the circus in Fundy Royal again Even the Rhino Party is making the scene this time Now thats truly funny N'esy Pas?







Donald Craig 
"Methinks.......N'esy Pas"..... theres a bubble over flowing with tears.


David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks you should quit laughing and starting reading all my comments N'esy Pas? 


David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Oh My My Did I strike another nerve? 


Donald Craig  
Reply to @David Amos: is that your intention? for that to happen you would first need to find an iota of significance. . you have none.


David Amos 
Content disabled  
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks desperate conservatives post desperate things I bet many liberals are wondering how much of your malicious nonsense has been "Disabled" No doubt you know why I would have loved to read it N'esy Pas? 
 

David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Find my blog and you can read my reply






Donald Craig 
Liberal in a bubble...."methinks"....lolol. 


David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks a lot of folks would agree that I should ask if you bother to read anything and think about it before you offer your two bits worth N'esy Pas?  


Larry Porter
Reply to @David Amos: Me thinks you over stayed you day pass from the home!! N'esy Pas?


David Amos 
Reply to @Larry Porter: Methinks you should find your conscience N'esy Pas? 
 
 
Larry Porter
Reply to @David Amos: I will when you will! Nasty Paws!!


David Amos  
Reply to @Larry Porter: Methinks you buddy Maxime Bernier and his liberal foes have no doubt that I am about to make you rather infamous byway a certain blog and Twitter as well N'esy Pas?


Larry Porter
Reply to @Larry Porter: The deed is done







Donald Craig
Virtually no one believes any Liberal. such as the UnSourced anecdote from MacKenna, that was yesterdays clickbait. 


David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks you should find what remains of my comments in yesterday's "clickbait" because this comment section is still open and now I am talking about you N'esy Pas? 


David Amos
Content disabled   
Reply to @David Amos: Oh My MY Methinks many political pundits are having Deja Vu bigtime as many comments (not just mine) go "POOF" N'esy Pas?  


David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methnks thats just more proof of the pudding N'esy Pas?  


David Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks everybody knows the reason why I did not offer many comments about McKenna's woes yesterday Sometimes less is more N'esy Pas? 


David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: You can read one of my replies in Twitter







David Amos
Methinks out of the gate in another article CBC does a fairly good job of explaining why Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger does not wish to debate his opponents as much as he did 4 years ago N'esy Pas?

Why Justin Trudeau's main foe in 2019 is the Justin Trudeau of 2015

A leader who frames every issue around ideals can expect blowback when he can't - or won't - live up to them
Aaron Wherry · CBC News · Posted: Sep 07, 2019 4:00 AM ET

"The Justin Trudeau of 2019 — the leader who is now seeking re-election — is not the Justin Trudeau of 2015, the young politician who became Canada's 23rd prime minister on a sunny day in November four years ago.

For one thing, the Trudeau of 2019 now knows exactly how much trouble can result when you make an open-ended, but absolute, promise to implement electoral reform.

The promises of 2015 (simple and aspirational) have become an actual record of governing (messy and imperfect). Not everything went according to plan. Some things didn't get done. There is now a list of missteps and controversies for Trudeau's political opponents to recite and dwell upon, from a vacation on the Aga Khan's island to the SNC-Lavalin affair. If Trudeau was a different kind of politician in 2015, he is now some degree closer to being just another politician in 2019."








Robert Romano
Trudeau shying away from any camera is highly unusual so why isn’t he attending all the debates? Maybe he doesn’t want to attend any open debates where the candidates NOT get the questions before hand. Sad because this is one of the only times we get to see the leaders answering questions, unlike the HoC question period!


David Amos  
Reply to @Robert Romano: BINGO







BROCK Blakely
I listened to some of the old debates and Justin won’t allow Harper to answer any questions without talking over him, very rude. Hopefully the moderator could be more independent instead of supporting the left


David Amos
Reply to @BROCK blakely: Cry me a river


Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: lolololol. "Methinks" lolololol.. how ironic 


David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Who is crying now?








David Amos 
Hmmm

"The Leaders' Debate Commission, the body organizing two major federal election debates, has invited the leaders of five political parties to participate with the notable exception of People's Party Leader Maxime Bernier.

He has been left off the list, at least for now.

Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet, Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer, Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, Liberal Party Leader Justin Trudeau and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh have secured tickets to the Oct. 7 English-language debate and the French-language affair on Oct. 10."

Methinks all the other party leaders must be relieved by the fact that it appears Harper 2.0's lawyer buddy Bernier is persona non grata at all the debates N'esy Pas?

"So far, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Green Party Leader Elizabeth May have all agreed to participate in the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates.

A spokesperson for the Conservative Party said the debates are about Canadians, not the leaders, and Scheer would be attending all election debates."







David Amos 
Whereas Trudeau is ducking debates just like Harper did last time methinks my fellow Maritimers may enjoy a little Deja Vu about the last time all the political parties focused on the middle class and jobs etc N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

 

David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks some folks my enjoy the reading the comment section as well N'esy Pas?








Brian Spence
Zombie Harp was not invited to the debates.
Although he is convinced that he still controls the free world, wisdom prevailed.
Stephan Harper will not be coming back for you.
He has your money, that's enough.



David Amos   
Reply to @Brian Spence: Methinks Harper 2.0 will be in all the debates following his orders N'esy Pas?







Gary Barrat
complete bias . the debates are all liberal forums !


David Amos    
Reply to @Gary Barratt: Methinks if that were true then Trudeau should attend them all N'esy Pas?

"Trudeau was keen to participate in multiple debates in 2015 — an election that saw the longest campaign period in modern Canadian history. But Trudeau's critics now argue that he is cherry-picking debates for political reasons."








David Amos    
Methinks Trudeau is acting more and more like Harper N'esy Pas?


Brett Mclaughlan
Reply to @David Amos: in what respect, because in some that would require a massive improvement by the PM, nothing indicates that he is capable of that


David Amos    
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Reply to @Brett Mclaughlan: Google CBC Fundy Royal and read my comments 2 days before the last polling day while your hero Harper was still the Prime Minister and Scheer was still the Speaker


David Amos    
Reply to @Brett Mclaughlan: Go figure why my reply was blocked









Brett Mclaughlan
 Ironically if the sitting PM does not attend a debate the others should also cancel, why should they all subject themselves to debate and potentially damage if the others aren't there, there is no upside to Trudeau debating, and it seems his team has realized that. Others should consider that these other appearances have more downside than up


David Amos 
Reply to @Brett Mclaughlan: Surely you jest


Brett Mclaughlan 
Reply to @David Amos: surely not, but what's your perspective,


David Amos
Reply to @Brett Mclaughlan: Whereas I have nothing to hide I am often barred from debates because the media and their political cohorts are afraid that folks will find out why I was illegally from all the parliamentary properties in Canada Hence unlike your political heroes I debate them every chance I get.


Brett Mclaughlan 
Reply to @David Amos: that is a lot of words for not even an incoherent thought to emerge, do try to be succinct and relevant


David Amos
Reply to @Brett Mclaughlan: Google Fundy Royal Debate or simply my name


Corby Amano 
Reply to @Brett Mclaughlan: Im with you. Thats a great idea but knowing Justin this won't fly







Richard Lane
If you want to know the Character of someone in the Liberal Party; just check out those Conservative Election ads about their leaders. They have all proven to be very accurate.

"Just Visiting|" Michael Ignatieff......stuck around for appearances for a while...then bolted the country after they rejected him.

"Not ready"....of course, this is Justin Trudeau....and he proves he's "not ready" every time an issue more difficult than sock selection presents itself.



David Amos 
Reply to @Richard lane: Methinks its interesting that Rogers Media is not on your list N'esy Pas?






Richard Lane
Sooo.......these are the folks making up the "Commission" eh?

CBC News.
Radio-Canada.
Global News.
CTV News.
The Toronto Star and the Torstar chain.
HuffPost Canada.
HuffPost Quebec.
La Presse.
Le Devoir.
L'Actualité.

Tell me again how it was the Conservatives who were trying to control the debates in their favour?

Looks like a laundry list of Liberal lovers; and Conservative haters. (except maybe Global)

But I bet Global would not have been approved post SNC.  



David Amos
Reply to @Richard lane: Methinks CTV would strongly disagree with your opinion of them N'esy Pas?








Rob Seitl
Checked that list of broadcasters on that commission on media bias fact check website, all lean centre left, no wonder Trudeau will only participate in their debates! All Liberal friendly


Richard Lane 
Reply to @Rob Seitl: Yep....trudeau has a hard enough time answering simple questions; even when they have been given to him ahead of them being asked......He wouldn't last long at a MONK debate.


David Amos 
Reply to @Richard lane: Methinks you should explain to the folks how he became the PM N'esy Pas?








Louise Fribance
Of course he’ll go on debates sponsored by the only media he’s supporting financially. What a coward he is.


David Amos  
Reply to @Louise Fribance: I agree







Stan Brown
 “Umm ahh err I’m not going in debates because I’m top busy helping the middle class and saving the environment all at the same time..”


David Amos   
Reply to @Stan Brown: Methinks he has not done much to benefit the middle class or the environment over the past four years N'esy Pas?







Larry Porter
Because the most intelligent thing about JT is his socks!! And answering questions is not his bag!!

ABL 2019



David Amos    
Reply to @Larry Porter: What is with Conservative people constantly talking about the dude's socks? Methinks there are far more important issues to address N'esy Pas?







Eric Biallas
'Chicken Man"


David Amos   
Reply to @Eric Biallas: Methinks that must be witty for a Conservative N'esy Pas?








Phil Karza
If I were Trudeau, I would be wary of debating my record, too. He has a lot of 'splaining to do.


David Amos    
Reply to @Phil Karza: YUP






April Wong
CH IC KEN.............gotta make sure they are scripted in Liberal friendly environments...some LEADER !


David Amos  
Reply to @april wong: Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger is afraid to debate the circus he created N'esy Pas?







Jeff Bonzo
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Nothing to debate here... trudeau is the worst PM in Canadian history. Its a fact.


David Amos
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Reply to @Jeff Bonzo: Methinks many folks strongly disagree with you without further input from me N'esy Pas?








Daryll Mcbain
Trudeau can’t debate with unscripted questions.


David Amos
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain: True







Laine Smith
So the Coles notes version
Trudeau will only attend 2 debates hosted by a large group of left leaning media that he recently gave 600 million to..



David Allan
Reply to @Laine Smith:

Postmedia is left leaning?

Wow, you're so far right that Mussolini is left of you. 



David Amos
Reply to @Laine Smith: Methinks many except the people working for CTV would agree that is it in a nutshell N'esy Pas?


Donald Craig
Reply to @David Allan: the Forrest, Forrest Gump point of view. which side of Forrest are you on? 


David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks Mr Gump would agree that Stupid Is As Stupid Does N'esy Pas?







Paul Ethier
Trudeau tells Canadians he has no time for election debates but takes day to attend NETFLIX Hasan Minhaj show. Arrogance and condescending hypocrisy defines inept Trudeau.


David Allan
Reply to @Paul Ethier:

"Trudeau tells Canadians he has no time for election debates but takes day to attend NETFLIX Hasan Minhaj show."

Which debate did he miss to do that?
Oh, none. 



David Amos
Reply to @Paul Ethier: Oh So True


Donald Craig
Reply to @David Allan: 67000+ congrats on you missing the real world. 


David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks many would agree that you are the dude who is lost in cyberspace N'esy Pas?







Jack Lester
if a PM can't stand up and defend his 4 years in government he doesn't deserve re election ABL 


David Allan
Reply to @jack lester:

"if a PM can't stand up and defend his 4 years in government he doesn't deserve re election ABL"

Agreed.
That doesn't actually fit the reality of this situation.
Trudeau is still attending debates.

He just took a page from the CPC Harper book on not attending all debates.



David Amos 
Reply to @jack lester: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir


David Amos 
Reply to @David Allan: BINGO and look who is gone 
 

Donald Craig
Reply to @David Allan: lolol. too funny 67000+ talking about reality.


David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks you should tell your heroes Mr Scheer and Mr Bernier that you have a thing for Mr Allan and mean old me N'esy Pas?


Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: "Methinks" that you should stop flogging your wee lapdog for at least 5 minutes per day. lololol.


Donald Craig 
Reply to @David Amos: "methinks" you couldnt be more insignificant "N'esy-pas".
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks you should Google your name and mine sometime when you are done abusing your wee little lapdog N'esy Pas?


Donald Craig 
Reply to @David Amos: a perfunctory search of "David Amos". viola.. .
pictures of insignificant clowns.



Donald Craig  
Reply to @David Amos: lol the originality of the insignificant.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks a very nervous conservative also found my blog N'esy Pas?






Marlene Lauder
I guess Quebecers don’t care that he is unethical.
At least that is what JT thinks.
Hope they don’t believe his sickening rationale



David Amos
Reply to @Marlene Lauder: Methinks you forgot the Orange Wave that sunk the liberals years ago I bet the current NDP leader/lawyer has not N'esy Pas? 


Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: Ontario will be between Orange (inner TO & Ham, some NOnt) and Blue. Libs will not get 10 seats here.


David Amos 
Reply to @donald craig: Dream on





Douglas Locke
Does it really matter? Is there any Canadian that still believes anything JT says?? 


David Amos
Reply to @Douglas Locke: Methinks everybody knows I never did and thats only one of the many reasons why I am running again N'esy Pas?




Jace Braidwith
The Liberal strategy backroom brain trust are pretty shrewd. They probably figure that they're lucky they're still even with the Conservatives. So, the less that Canadian voters see of Trudeau in the campaign, perhaps struggling to form a coherent sentence without the usual dull platitudes, the better.


David Amos 
Reply to @Jace Braidwith: Methinks they are not all that shrewd with Mr Butts still overseeing the circus N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
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