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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-poilievre-out-1.5438447
· CBC News· Posted: Jan 24, 2020 4:00 AM ET
Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre announced Thursday he will not run for the Conservative leadership - after he'd already started readying a campaign. (Adrian Wyld / Canadian Press)
Jean Charest was probably in — and then he was definitely out. Rona Ambrose was thinking about it — then she stopped. Peter MacKay is in and, by all accounts, still is. Pierre Poilievre was going to throw his hat into the ring, too. Until he wasn't.
Yes, the Conservative leadership race we all expected has not quite materialized.
Poilievre's surprise announcement on Thursday that he would not mount a bid for the leadership leaves the contours of this campaign ill-defined. The Ontario MP was widely considered to be the main competition for MacKay, the former cabinet minister and last leader of the federal Progressive Conservative Party.
Poilievre did have a path to victory. As the only major candidate with roots in Western Canada — he was born and raised in Alberta — Poilievre had the potential to take the lane as the candidate of the West, where the party's caucus, membership and donor base are disproportionately located.
Watch: What high-profile exits mean for the Conservative leadership race
He had the chops to be a player in Quebec. Only a few days ago, he was on Radio-Canada and, by speaking decent French and expressing views on social conservative issues that were in line with mainstream opinion in the province, dispelled the two biggest concerns Quebec Conservatives had with Andrew Scheer's election performance.
Combined with his track record as a partisan pitbull for Stephen Harper, he appeared to be the most likely recipient of votes from members opposed to MacKay — and to any swing back to the old PC wing of the party that took a back seat to the Reformers after the 2003 merger.
With MacKay and Poilievre on the ballot, there didn't appear to be much room for Ontario MP Erin O'Toole, who finished third in the 2017 leadership race and will be mounting a second attempt.
He ran his last campaign as a consensus candidate in the centre of the party, gaining the support of members who voted for moderates like Lisa Raitt and Michael Chong and disproportionately ranked O'Toole as their second choice.
MacKay is well-positioned to occupy this lane. He has already received the endorsement of three MPs who backed O'Toole in 2017. Even MacKay's regional base overlaps with O'Toole, who had his best results in New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia.
Atlantic Canada is likely to be MacKay's fiefdom: he represented a riding in Nova Scotia for nearly two decades, the same seat his father Elmer occupied for even longer, and he has the backing of Tim Houston, the provincial PC leader in Nova Scotia.
But there is now an opportunity for O'Toole to take up the space left vacant by Poilievre.
That will be no easy task. But by the process of elimination, O'Toole has the best shot at it. Instead of being squeezed out between MacKay and Poilievre, O'Toole merely has to position himself to the right of MacKay as the only acceptable option for members looking for an alternative.
Other names probably will join MacKay and O'Toole on the ballot. Ontario MPs Marilyn Gladu and Derek Sloan have indicated they want to run. The 12th place finisher in 2017, businessman Rick Peterson, says he will take another kick at the can, as have a number of former staffers and failed election candidates.
But until these people meet the Conservative Party's demanding qualification requirements, or give some tangible evidence that they are serious contenders, this looks like a two-horse race.
It's a race with no frontrunner from Quebec and nobody from Western Canada. Only a single candidate has a name that a majority of Canadians can recognize: Peter MacKay.
So, will this be it?
Justin Trudeau's Liberals are in their second term and were reduced to a minority government only last fall. The Conservatives continue to run roughly even with the Liberals in national polls. The next leader of the Conservative Party has a good shot of becoming the next prime minister — certainly a better shot than appeared to be the case in 2017.
Charest's decision on Tuesday left Quebec up for grabs. On Wednesday, Ambrose left the field wide open in Western Canada. Poilievre relinquished his contender status on Thursday, along with all the organizers and donors his candidacy would have taken off the table for other candidates.
This race looks a lot different than it did on Monday. Anyone who had ruled out a bid at the beginning of the week might want to take the weekend to think it over again.
Who's running - and who's not - for the leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada. (CBC News)
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
2235 Comments
Gorden Feist
"The Ontario MP was widely considered to be the main competition for MacKay"
That shows how terrible that party is at choosing leaders. The fact that PP was even in the running is downright scary.
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Gorden Feist:
It’s nothing more than a sign they’ve already chosen their horse. The rest is pantomime and formality.
Dave Burk
the last PM to reduce the national debt was Martin who got beat in a non confidence vote by Harper with the help of the NDP
If Martin had won in 2006 look at all the damage Canada would have been spared under Harper years.
Plus Harper is still active in this race on who he backs
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Dave Burk:
If the Conservatives manage to run a “progressive” candidate (or at least one who can convince Canadians they are) they might have a shot. Unfortunately, thanks to the groundwork laid by Harper and Mackay, it’s likely Canadians won’t believe them no matter what they say. Ironic.
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Burk: Methinks you should back away from the table serving the red kool aid and take a nap N'esy Pas?
Holly Woods
An opening for someone else ??
..
Yup....... Liberal majority again in 2023
Ron Booth
Reply to @Holly Woods:
If that happens then God help this country we new as Canada.
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Ron Booth:
Well, I didn’t recognize Canada after the last guy was done with it, so that’s something to consider.
David Amos
Reply to @Holly Woods: Dream on
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-poilievre-out-1.5438447
What Pierre Poilievre's exit means for the Conservative leadership race
Peter MacKay's biggest competition drops out. It's an opportunity for Erin O'Toole — or someone else
· CBC News· Posted: Jan 24, 2020 4:00 AM ET
Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre announced Thursday he will not run for the Conservative leadership - after he'd already started readying a campaign. (Adrian Wyld / Canadian Press)
Jean Charest was probably in — and then he was definitely out. Rona Ambrose was thinking about it — then she stopped. Peter MacKay is in and, by all accounts, still is. Pierre Poilievre was going to throw his hat into the ring, too. Until he wasn't.
Yes, the Conservative leadership race we all expected has not quite materialized.
Poilievre's surprise announcement on Thursday that he would not mount a bid for the leadership leaves the contours of this campaign ill-defined. The Ontario MP was widely considered to be the main competition for MacKay, the former cabinet minister and last leader of the federal Progressive Conservative Party.
Poilievre did have a path to victory. As the only major candidate with roots in Western Canada — he was born and raised in Alberta — Poilievre had the potential to take the lane as the candidate of the West, where the party's caucus, membership and donor base are disproportionately located.
Watch: What high-profile exits mean for the Conservative leadership race
He had the chops to be a player in Quebec. Only a few days ago, he was on Radio-Canada and, by speaking decent French and expressing views on social conservative issues that were in line with mainstream opinion in the province, dispelled the two biggest concerns Quebec Conservatives had with Andrew Scheer's election performance.
Combined with his track record as a partisan pitbull for Stephen Harper, he appeared to be the most likely recipient of votes from members opposed to MacKay — and to any swing back to the old PC wing of the party that took a back seat to the Reformers after the 2003 merger.
An opening for O'Toole
With MacKay and Poilievre on the ballot, there didn't appear to be much room for Ontario MP Erin O'Toole, who finished third in the 2017 leadership race and will be mounting a second attempt.
He ran his last campaign as a consensus candidate in the centre of the party, gaining the support of members who voted for moderates like Lisa Raitt and Michael Chong and disproportionately ranked O'Toole as their second choice.
MacKay is well-positioned to occupy this lane. He has already received the endorsement of three MPs who backed O'Toole in 2017. Even MacKay's regional base overlaps with O'Toole, who had his best results in New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia.
Atlantic Canada is likely to be MacKay's fiefdom: he represented a riding in Nova Scotia for nearly two decades, the same seat his father Elmer occupied for even longer, and he has the backing of Tim Houston, the provincial PC leader in Nova Scotia.
But there is now an opportunity for O'Toole to take up the space left vacant by Poilievre.
That will be no easy task. But by the process of elimination, O'Toole has the best shot at it. Instead of being squeezed out between MacKay and Poilievre, O'Toole merely has to position himself to the right of MacKay as the only acceptable option for members looking for an alternative.
An opening for someone else
Other names probably will join MacKay and O'Toole on the ballot. Ontario MPs Marilyn Gladu and Derek Sloan have indicated they want to run. The 12th place finisher in 2017, businessman Rick Peterson, says he will take another kick at the can, as have a number of former staffers and failed election candidates.
But until these people meet the Conservative Party's demanding qualification requirements, or give some tangible evidence that they are serious contenders, this looks like a two-horse race.
It's a race with no frontrunner from Quebec and nobody from Western Canada. Only a single candidate has a name that a majority of Canadians can recognize: Peter MacKay.
So, will this be it?
Justin Trudeau's Liberals are in their second term and were reduced to a minority government only last fall. The Conservatives continue to run roughly even with the Liberals in national polls. The next leader of the Conservative Party has a good shot of becoming the next prime minister — certainly a better shot than appeared to be the case in 2017.
Charest's decision on Tuesday left Quebec up for grabs. On Wednesday, Ambrose left the field wide open in Western Canada. Poilievre relinquished his contender status on Thursday, along with all the organizers and donors his candidacy would have taken off the table for other candidates.
This race looks a lot different than it did on Monday. Anyone who had ruled out a bid at the beginning of the week might want to take the weekend to think it over again.
Who's running - and who's not - for the leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada. (CBC News)
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
2235 Comments
Gorden Feist
"The Ontario MP was widely considered to be the main competition for MacKay"
That shows how terrible that party is at choosing leaders. The fact that PP was even in the running is downright scary.
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Gorden Feist:
It’s nothing more than a sign they’ve already chosen their horse. The rest is pantomime and formality.
David Amos
Reply to @Gorden Feist: Welcome to he circus
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas Holden: I agree
Dave Burk
the last PM to reduce the national debt was Martin who got beat in a non confidence vote by Harper with the help of the NDP
If Martin had won in 2006 look at all the damage Canada would have been spared under Harper years.
Plus Harper is still active in this race on who he backs
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Dave Burk:
If the Conservatives manage to run a “progressive” candidate (or at least one who can convince Canadians they are) they might have a shot. Unfortunately, thanks to the groundwork laid by Harper and Mackay, it’s likely Canadians won’t believe them no matter what they say. Ironic.
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Burk: Methinks you should back away from the table serving the red kool aid and take a nap N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas Holden: I concur
Holly Woods
An opening for someone else ??
..
Yup....... Liberal majority again in 2023
Ron Booth
Reply to @Holly Woods:
If that happens then God help this country we new as Canada.
Douglas Holden
Reply to @Ron Booth:
Well, I didn’t recognize Canada after the last guy was done with it, so that’s something to consider.
David Amos
Reply to @Holly Woods: Dream on
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas Holden: Methinks some folks would agree that Paul Hellyer wrote an important book called "GoodBye Canada" nearly 20 years ago that is still very relevant today N'esy Pas?