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No matter what's at stake in final Ontario leaders' debate Phil Simpson is not my friend N'esy Pas??

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Patrick Brown says he's not to blame for Doug Ford's campaign woes

'This is the Progressive Conservatives' election to lose,' the former Ontario PC leader told CBC News

Hannah Thibedeau, Christina Romualdo· CBC News· Posted: May 28, 2018 7:04 PM ET


185 Comments

  
Lee Hall
Anna Lyle
Patrick Brown is right. Doug Ford's undoing is no one's fault but his own.


David Amos
David Amos
@Anna Lyle Trust that I am no fan of Doug Ford However the truth this is the title of a blog that I kept adding more emails to Anyone can Google some of the words to find it

Friday, 19 January 2018
Yo Bill Morneau are the opposition leaders Patrick Brown and Andrea Horwath even remotely concerned about the upcoming provincial election?




http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/what-s-at-stake-in-final-ontario-leaders-debate-1.4676911


What's at stake in final Ontario leaders' debate?

In the 3 weeks since the first televised debate, the campaign has changed dramatically



Joanne Chianello· CBC News· Posted: May 27, 2018 4:00 AM ET



3503 Comments 
Commenting is now closed for this story.



 Robin Blair 
Robin Blair
I'll bet Dougie is sweating tonight!"
 

David Amos
David Amos
@Robin Blair Methinks many folks would bet against you N'esy Pas?


Dale Prokop 
Dale Prokop
The PC's shot themselves in the head with Ford.


Johny Ng
Johny Ng
@Dale Prokop Caroline and Christine split the vote. The delegates clearly showed enthusiasm for both. Now Ford is the leader and as such presents a clear and definite improvement over Horvath or
Wynn spend and tax approach



David Amos
David Amos
@Johny Ng YUP


Robin Blair
Robin Blair
@Dale Prokop

The Man With No Plan!

But don't worry, anti-Ford posts are being systematically flagged and removed today.


David Amos
David Amos
@Robin Blair Methinks that its not rocket science to understand why certain folks are blocked no matter what side of the political fence they are sitting on Your most liked Leftie thread went "Poof" because of my reply N'esy Pas?

 
William Carver
William Carver
@Robin Blair

Odd, I've seen many anti-Ford comments.

As a 10 year veteran of this section, and quite familiar with the colour of censor, and being quite familiar with your posts, I suspect this is just another ploy of yours to denigrate opposition.

David Amos
David Amos
@William Carver Nope it happened t him at least once As I said methinks it was because of my reply N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@William Carver Methinks you should trust that I have been watching very closely save everything I did for non partisan political reasons of my own N'esy Pas?


William Carver
William Carver
@David Amos

CBC is participating in a campaign against pro PC supporters.


David Amos
David Amos
@William Carver Methinks everybody knows that but I bet you don't know why has CBC been acting against me since 2002 N'esy Pas?

 Chris Maurier 
Chris Maurier
Ford platform = Feed the rich ,Starve the poor.


David Amos
David Amos
@ Chris Maurier Methinks Ford needs no platform whatsoever just keep promising No Carbon Tax and allow the Fake Left to spit the vote N'esy Pas?

Andy Davis
Andy Davis
@David Amos It's n'est pas. There fixed that for you... cons aren't the brightest bulbs in the room

 
Jack Christian
Jack Christian
@David Amos Sure wish you'd grow up and knock off with the n'esy pas.

David Amos
David Amos
@Jack Christian Methinks you need to dream on Jacky Boy No doubt I am old enough to be your daddy N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@Jack Christian A Little Deja Vu from this thread that has since went "Poof"

Andy Davis
@David Amos It's n'est pas. There fixed that for you... cons aren't the brightest bulbs in the room

 
Dennis Regan 
Dennis Regan
Mr. Ford. To get votes, I suggest you tell us "all" about yourself. To what extent did your high school schoolyard sales reach? Are you still super-buddies with your brothers sleazy friends? Would you still vote for Trump if you had a chance to?


David Amos
David Amos
@Dennis Regan "Would you still vote for Trump if you had a chance to?"

Methinks most folks in Canada don't care about Yankee election results between the Donald and Hillary nor should they N'esy Pas?


Phil Simpson
Phil Simpson
@David Amos : Methinks being willfully ignorant of the goings on concerning our neighbour to the south is pure folly. The USA is still the most powerful and influential nation in the western hemisphere, and it is prudent to keep an eye on what may be affecting our nation with every twitch and groan.


David Amos
David Amos
@Phil Simpson Methinks if you truly mean what you say then you should Google the following ASAP N'esy Pas?

Trump NAFTA FATCA Amos


Phil Simpson
Phil Simpson
@David Amos : Methinks you are grinning when you gave me the link to David Raymond Amos. I'll pass on the obvious entertainment value of the blog.
N’est-ce pas, mon ami? Certainement, non?


David Amos
David Amos
@Phil Simpson Nope However Methinks you may enjoy the title of my latest blog N'esy Pas?


Phil Simpson
Phil Simpson
@David Amos : That is a cute bit of bait that you have extended. I am not biting, or even curious to nibble.
No, you are not my friend, as yet, but you that could change as I do not know you.
I am assuredly not your enemy either, as I do not know you.
I hope you are having a wonderful day.
N’est-ce pas, mon ami? Certainement, non?


David Amos
David Amos
@Phil Simpson Methinks Stupid Is As Stupid Does N'esy Pas?

BTW I Tweeted about it as well


Neil Gregory 
Neil Gregory
What is at stake in final Ontario leaders' debate is the political and economic future of Ontario. As I see it, a vote for Wynne is a vote for more of the same old policies and behaviors that have plagued Ontario for the past fifteen years. A vote for Ford and is reformacons will likely result in the same kind of crippling debt Mulroney and Harper inflicted on Canada and the massive cuts to essential government services imposed by Harris. The NDP is the unknown quantity in this election and is the only party without recent baggage.


David Amos
David Amos
@Neil Gregory "The NDP is the unknown quantity in this election and is the only party without recent baggage"

Methinks that you have not read the news about the doings of the NDP in Nova Scotia not all that long ago or what is going on in BC and Alberta right now N'esy Pas?

Neil Gregory
Neil Gregory
@David Amos

OK. Let me amend my statement. How about, "The NDP is the only party without recent baggage in Ontario."

Happy?

Probably not.


Jayme Reid 
Chris Maurier
Doug Ford started his Campaign by claiming he had a proven track record of Governance ..So a one yr. stint of running interference for his brother at city hall and a failed bid for Mayor is a proven track record? ..Of What?


Susanne Armstrong
Susanne Armstrong
@Steven Read You are being very kind. I think the word you are looking for is Ford is a Li ar.

David Amos
David Amos
@Susanne Armstrong Oh My My Please name one professional politician who is not. Methinks the Fake Left is upset that the vote is split N'esy Pas?


David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Susanne Armstrong Oh My My I upset CBC

  
Jayme Reid
Francis Culligan
Provincial political experience

Horwarth--15 years as an MPP
Wynne--15 years
Ford--ZERO, but he can run a family bbq and invite folks


Sandy Gillis
Sandy Gillis
@Johny Ng
Like a business? What a terrible idea, government should never be run like a business. A non-profit maybe, but never a business.


David Amos
David Amos
@Sandy Gillis Methinks professional politicians have made government the biggest business of all. However we all know you are no fan of this political animal and his opinions N'esy Pas?


Jayme Reid 
Nigel Marshall
For 44 years, the PCs ruled Alberta. Swimming in oil, they promised to plan for a rainy day. When it rained, they were fresh out of umbrellas.
These are the financial geniuses that want to convince voters that the NDP are economic mismanagers.


David Amos
David Amos
@Dan Cooper Methinks that CBC has been know to mislead us in the past N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276


Jayme Reid
Danny Tanker
"What's at stake in final Ontario leaders' debate?"

The very future of your entire Province if you don't make the right choice, that's what.

I implore all Ontarions to vote, make your ballot count, exercise your rights but DO NOT vote for the Conservative candidate Doug Ford. If you do, you will regret it.


Jayme Reid
Jayme Reid
@Danny Tanker

The Ndp is no better.

Danny Tanker
Danny Tanker
@Jayme Reid

"The Ndp is no better."

I think they are but by a narrow margin, far better than Doug Ford who admires Trump, that alone ought to make you quiver with fear for the future of your Province


David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos 
@Danny Tanker "I implore all Ontarions to vote, make your ballot count, exercise your rights but"

Methinks I should inform you that I strongly disagree with the rest of your statement in a bigtime fashion.

The last thing I am is a fan of Dougy Ford or anyone else. I truly believe folks should look to their interests and ignore all political party rhetoric then vote for anyone they wish within whatever riding they are in whom they think best represents their take on the scene.

I truly hope they do not vote for the incumbents no matter what colour of coat they wear. If that were to happen and enough new souls found a seat in the Legislative Assembly then they would see politicking change in Ontario N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@Danny Tanker Methinks you should wonder why my reply to you has been disabled hours later and after it being read and liked and disliked several times N'esy Pas?


Robin Blair
Robin Blair
@Danny Tanker

Buck-A-Beer! Who could say no?

I'll bet we see Dougie sweating tonight!


David Amos
David Amos
@Robin Blair "I'll bet we see Dougie sweating tonight!"

Methinks I replied to that comment earlier and everything went "Poof' N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@Bill Nazarene Methinks the Fake Left only care about staying aboard the gravy train N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@Jack Christian Tu Tut Tut Jacky Boy Methinks your daddy should have taught you not to insult strangers Some of them may not receive it well N'esy Pas?

Kay Smith
Kay Smith
I guess the working people were not home to take a phone call from Forum polls


David Amos
David Amos
@Kay Smith LOL


Kay Smith 
Kay Smith
notice the Cons with Ford and again like with Scheer are not supporting Ford but attacking the others .
I guess it is hard to support those 2


Ron Vollans
Ron Vollans
@Ron Frier
Wishful thinking is easy to spot. No matter what they say, the cons know their party has blown it again. You would think they would learn what is causing these meltdowns.

David Amos
David Amos
@Ron Vollans Methinks it ain't over til the Fat Lady sings and there is only one poll that truly counts Hillary figured that out the hard way N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Kay Smith Methinks Scheer like Trudeau The Younger knows how important this election is to their upcoming federal showdown next year N'esy Pas?


Bertrum G.Gruff  
Bertrum G.Gruff
2015 desperate Fed Cons mailed retroactive family allowance cheques to everyone with a child,
then branded NDP as 'socialists'


David Amos
David Amos
@Bertrum G.Gruff Methinks everybody knows the NDP are socialists without Harper having to inform us N'esy Pas?



Frank Gallagher
Frank Gallagher
@Danny Tanker if you are happy with how things are then voting either Liberal or NDP makes no difference. Their exactly the same party both practising pie in the sky economics and broken promises. But if you want real change for the better you can vote PC.

David Amos
David Amos
@Frank Gallagher Methinks folks would see a real change but the proof of things being better will be in the pudding after a couple of years N'esy Pas?


Steven Scott
Dave Singh
Doug hasn't presented any program to the electorate, he'll probably make it up as it goes, just like Donald down south.


David Amos
David Amos
@Dave Singh YUP

  
Steven Scott
Chris Maurier
Doug started his Campaign stating he has a proven track record of governance .. No one explained to him that running interference for his brother for a yr. at city hall and having a failing bid to be Mayor wasn't a True Proven track record.


Dave Ryan
Dave Ryan
@ Chris Maurier This to me seems to be the major problem with politics these days. The fact he says it is one problem, but the fact that no one calls him on it seems to be a bigger problem - or if he is called on it, the base just ignores it. I have seen nothing in Doug Ford's background that shows he will be a good leader. He took second fiddle to his brother, and we all know what he was all about. Enough said.

David Amos
David Amos
@Dave Ryan "Enough said."

So you say

Steven Scott
Bob Jenkins
Public sector unions = Liberals have sucked Ontario dry.

David Amos
David Amos
@Bob Jenkins True


Margaret Bricknell
Al. C Hill
The Manitoba debt...generated by the NDP....will take a generation to pay off..if Ontario think they are in bad shape now...put the NDP in power...then they will really see out of control spending and debt


Margaret Bricknell
Margaret Bricknell
@Philip Nicholson
The Manitoba government.
Manitoba's primary political parties are the New Democratic Party of Manitoba (NDP) and the Progressive Conservative Party of Manitoba. The current premier of Manitoba is Brian Pallister, who replaced Greg Selinger of the New Democratic Party to lead the Conservative majority government of 40 seats.

David Amos
David Amos
@Margaret Bricknell Methinks I see no need to explain why dudes such as Brian Pallister are joke to me N'esy Pas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/pallister-costa-rica-vacation-home-luxury-tax-1.4605666



John Oaktree
John Oaktree
@David Amos

The phrase you're looking for is: n'est-ce pas?

N'esy Pas isn't anything...


Steven Scott 
David Polk
I sugggest voters add up the Ford promises and the Ford tax cuts. The remarkable sum is very frightening. It really isn't hard to look these up. Then decide if you want to support the PCs.


David Amos
David Amos
@David Polk Methinks swing voters will decide this election like they always do because most folks will vote for the colour of the coat like they always do The big decision as to wins will be how many liberals will vote NDP this time or simply stay home N'esy Pas?


Phil Simpson
Francis Culligan
Doug Ford has not provided Ontarians with his platform. What is he hiding? How can a thinking person vote for someone unwilling to share what he intends to do?


David Amos
David Amos
@Francis Culligan Methinks many folks are disgusted with what the liberal have already done and are afraid of what the NDP are promising to do N'esy Pas?


Evan Mulligan
 Francis Culligan
Ford didn't even finish university. Why didn't he have to? Daddy.


David Foster
David Foster
@Francis Culligan
That's your qualifier??
How many academics that have been elected have but our province deep into debt.

David Amos
David Amos
@David Foster Good Point Sir


David Amos
David Amos
@Margaret Bricknell Methinks common folks know that there are a lot snobby people with fine educations who should not be trusted as far as one could throw them and we have the right to vote too N'esy Pas?
  
David Foster
Don Pooley
I told my PC candidate no platform no vote. Why should I have blind faith in Ford? I'm not in the habit of buying pigs in a poke, which is what Ford is selling.


William Voz
William Voz
@Don Pooley

I'm going with the party that will put more of my money in my pocket.

PC all the way.


David Amos
David Amos
@William Voz Methinks you are brutally honest about your voting intentions N'esy Pas?


Evan Mulligan 
Evan Mulligan
Expect Wynne to come out swinging. Her party is in for a defeat of historic proportions.

Expect Ford to blame the "mainstream media" and "elites" for his falloff in support. Bur do not expect him to actually present a plan.

Expect Horwath to target Ford, because that's where her best chance lies to draw support from the PCs to the NDP.

Expect the Greens to insist that the sky is falling. Again.


David Amos
David Amos
@Evan Mulligan I agree


Owen Frank
Owen Frank
@Evan Mulligan voting ....the best of the worst is?

Evan Mulligan
Evan Mulligan
@Owen Frank

I honestly don't know.

David Amos
David Amos
@Evan Mulligan Methinks everyone should appreciate your honesty but most won't N'esy Pas?
  
Al. C  Hill
Ernest Gregson
It’s beginning to look like a whole new crop of voters (aka millennials) are going to learn the hard way that living above your means is not sustainable and cradle to grave coddling will come with consequences. Those who do not know/remember history are doomed to repeat it.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ernest Gregson "Those who do not know/remember history are doomed to repeat it."

True

Methinks George Santayana was a wise guy.

The following is true as well N'esy Pas?

"Most men’s conscience, habits, and opinions are borrowed from convention and gather continual comforting assurances from the same social consensus that originally suggested them."


Al. C  Hill
Will McComb
Corruption in Ontario politics is entrenched. Not a new phenomenon, been there since Ontario became a Province , hard to get rid of it!


David Amos
David Amos
@Will McComb I concur




Patrick Brown says he's not to blame for Doug Ford's campaign woes

'This is the Progressive Conservatives' election to lose,' the former Ontario PC leader told CBC News

Hannah Thibedeau, Christina Romualdo· CBC News· Posted: May 28, 2018 7:04 PM ET



'The PCs had a slight lead in previous elections and it evaporated, but never anything like this,' former Ontario PC leader Patrick Brown told Hannah Thibedeau of CBC News. (CBC)




He's not the party leader anymore. He's not even running for a seat.

But former Ontario Progressive Conservative leader Patrick Brown's name keeps popping up in the Ontario provincial election — whenever Liberals and New Democrats take his successor, Doug Ford, to task over lingering questions about contested PC nomination battles.

"You want to get answers on this, Patrick Brown was the leader under this whole group of people," Ford said during an event earlier this month in Baysville, Ont., when questioned about a private company's claim that data belonging to 60,000 customers had been breached.

The company, 407 ETR, runs a toll highway. Simmer Sandhu, who worked for the company for nine years, recently quit as the PC candidate in Brampton East over what he called allegations "pertaining to both my work life and my nomination campaign."

Brown has kept a relatively low profile since stepping down as leader in January after CTV News reported that two women were accusing him of sexual assault.

Brown has denied the reports and is suing CTV for $8 million. CTV News says it stands by the story.
But Ford's repeated claim that Brown left the party in ruins has drawn him out. Hours before the three major party leaders gathered Sunday night for the final debate of the election, Brown sat down with CBC News to talk about how the PC campaign is going so far — and to suggest that Ford is dropping the ball.
[The Progressive Conservatives] have snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory before, but never with a lead this big. - former Ontario PC leader Patrick Brown
"You know, Doug may not have wanted to say, 'Talk to Patrick Brown,'" he said. "Because the facts tell a very different story.

"When I left we had a 20-point lead in the polls, a massive financial advantage, the largest membership, the most diverse membership in the province of Ontario. And we were winning by-elections left, right and centre."

That early advantage for the PCs seems to have evaporated over the course of the campaign. On Jan. 13, less than two weeks before Brown's resignation, the CBC Poll Tracker gave the PCs a lead of 12.5 points over the governing Liberals; the NDP was trailing in third, at 22 per cent.

On Mar. 11, the day after Progressive Conservatives elected Doug Ford as their leader, the party held a 20-point lead over the Liberals. The New Democrats trailed far behind at 24 per cent.

PCs' election to lose


On Monday, the day after the final leaders' debate, the PCs were at 35.9 per cent to the NDP's 35.2 per cent in the CBC's polling average.

"This is the Progressive Conservatives' election to lose," Brown said, adding that — given the substantial head-start the party had going into the campaign — anything short of a majority PC government would look like failure.

"[The Progressive Conservatives] have snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory before, but never with a lead this big. Never with an advantage this big. The PCs had a slight lead in previous elections and it evaporated, but never anything like this."
Sandhu's resignation and lingering questions about 407 ETR data aren't the only dark clouds hanging over Progressive Conservative candidate nominations during this campaign. In February, the party overturned two nominations in Scarborough Centre and Ottawa West-Nepean following reports of voting irregularities.

More recently, Ford himself was accused of interfering in a local party nomination race by signing up bogus members to help a candidate of his choice. The Liberals released documents and an audio recording of Ford that they claimed show him suggesting the fees would be paid by others — a violation of party rules.

"It was so frustrating," Brown said. He called on Elections Ontario to run party nominations to avoid allegations of manipulation of memberships.

"A party run by volunteers isn't adequately equipped to run nominations because they can be enormous affairs," he said.

"When the stakes are the opportunity to become an MPP and the opportunity to be part of a winning team, people will go to extensive lengths to win those nominations. And we've seen in some cases inappropriate lengths to win those nominations."

Patrick Brown: PC loss would be disappointing
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Former Ontario Progressive Conservative leader Patrick Brown says that it would be disappointing to see the PCs snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again. 0:40
 
Brown refrained from directly implicating Ford in any of the nomination controversies, but he also rejected the suggestion that Ford was completely out of the loop.

"Doug Ford has been a big part of the PC party for the last number of years," he said. "He was active in these nominations, particularly Etobicoke and Scarborough, and some of his candidates won and some of his candidates lost."

But how does Brown feel about Ford's approach to the campaign he'd been planning to lead himself? Brown said he's taking care to avoid directly criticizing his successor.

"I'm not gonna be a backseat driver, I'm not going to provide criticisms or advice to the current leader," he said. "[Ford] hasn't asked for that."

No love lost


But Brown acknowledges that Ford is further to the right — and that the two men aren't exactly friends.

"I'm not particularly close with Doug Ford," he said. "I obviously I'm more of a progressive conservative and we share different perspectives.

"I was proud to be the first PC leader to take an official delegation in the Toronto Pride Parade. I was proud to be the only Conservative leader in the country to speak against Islamophobia ... I was proud to lead a Conservative party that recognized climate change is man-made and we have to do our part."

Brown says he is 'more of a progressive conservative' than Ontario PC leader Doug Ford, pictured. He also said they are not friends. (Samantha Craggs/CBC)
 
 
Ford's populism has invited a lot of comparisons to U.S. President Donald Trump. Brown said that's not a brand that works in Ontario.

"But I think Bill Davis's moderate progressive conservatism was a great fit for this province and it was right for our times."

He said he has had "mixed emotions" about watching the progress of the Ford campaign from the outside — particularly after Ford blamed what he called the "mess" Brown left behind for his decision to appoint 11 candidates in ridings across the province.

"The turn of events that I went through I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy," Brown said. "But I still have lots of very good friends in the Progressive Conservative Party and I only wish them well.

"When I ... won the leadership of the PC Party of Ontario in 2015, we had a $7 million debt. We were almost financially bankrupt. We had the worst finances of all the political parties in Ontario. When I left we had $4 million in the bank.

"When I ran for the leadership we had 12,000 party members. When I left ... it was the largest in Ontario history and we had seen a membership growth that was unparalleled.

"So to say there was a 'mess' is a very inaccurate picture."

'Never say never'


No one from the Ford camp would comment on Brown's words. An official close to the Ford campaign suggested Brown is trying to rehabilitate his public image to clear the way for a return to politics.

Brown won't rule it out.

"You never say never," he said.

"I'm not going to jump to any quick decisions. I do love public service, despite everything I've been through. I believe politics and public service can be a means to do good for your community. But I feel very fortunate to have friends and family and good health. And I'm enjoying life."




What's at stake in final Ontario leaders' debate?

In the 3 weeks since the first televised debate, the campaign has changed dramatically



Joanne Chianello· CBC News· Posted: May 27, 2018 4:00 AM ET


NDP Leader Andrea Horwath, Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne and PC Leader Doug Ford will debate Sunday night for the last time before election day June 7. (Chris Young/Canadian Press, Michael Charles Cole/CBC and Carlo Allegri/Reuters)


In the first televised debate between Ontario's major political leaders almost three weeks ago, NDP Leader Andrea Horwath literally set herself apart from her opponents, standing to the side of them, trying to convince voters that they had a choice other than the governing Liberals or front-running Progressive Conservatives.


Apparently her approach has worked.

Since that debate, the PCs' huge lead has collapsed, the NDP has experienced an unprecedented surge in popularity, and the Liberals — who had once contemplated a future as the Official Opposition after 15 years in office — now face a potentially humiliating loss on voting day.
With the political tables turned so dramaticallySunday evening's debate — the last before the polls open on June 7 — has the potential to be an exciting 90 minutes that could help decide who will be the next premier of Ontario.

"I don't think I've seen this much momentum behind a candidate in a major election campaign, well, ever," said EKOS Research president Frank Graves, of the NDP's leap forward in opinion polls.

With an NDP victory well within the realm of possibility, Horwath's performance at Sunday night's debate could be markedly different from her previous outing. 

NDP Leader Andrea Horwath will likely be a target in the debate. (Marta Iwanek/Canadian Press)

Horwath: Confident or defensive?


Horwath's lead in the polls, however slight, could give her confidence, said Graves. "Maybe she's thinking, 'I'm on fire!'"

But it won't be easy going. In the earlier debate, Horwath was seen as a benign third-placer. Now, she will be the target of both Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne and Progressive Conservative Leader Doug Ford.

Wynne will undoubtedly bring up the NDP's platform calculation error that led to the party's proposed deficit being understated by $1.4 billion.
The PCs have spent the past week exposing — and criticizing — questionable comments of a number of NDP candidates. One of the most recent controversies was an NDP candidate in Toronto who had posted a meme of Hitler on her Facebook page. (The candidate says she has no idea how the meme got there.)

Expect Ford to go after Horwath over the selection of these candidates, slamming the NDP leader for not dismissing them or denouncing some of their past statements more forcefully.

Both strategies will aim to show that Horwath and the NDP aren't ready, or shouldn't be trusted, to take the helm of the province. Horwath could be spending a fair amount of time on the defensive. She needs to remind people of why they were drawn to her, but also convince them that she will be able to handle the role of premier.

PC Leader Doug Ford will have to turn around cratering support. (Tara Walton/Canadian Press)

Ford: Needs to look 'premier ready'


Although Ford will likely bring up the Hitler-meme NDP candidate, he'll be skating on pretty thin ice when it comes to criticizing other parties' candidates. One of his candidates in Brampton was forced to resign over his alleged links to stolen data from the company that oversees Highway 407, and there are further accusations that a number of PC candidates may have used that data to help win their nominations. Elections Ontario is investigating.

Just days ago, the Liberals released an audio tape that features Ford allegedly offering to buy people's party memberships to secure the PC nomination of his preferred candidate in his home riding of Etobicoke Centre.
And while Ford has vowed to release a fully costed PC platform, there is no sign of it with less than two weeks until voting day. The cost of his promises have outweighed his unspecified plans to find "efficiencies" — which the other two leaders will characterize as cuts to core services.

"Doug Ford needs to somehow figure out a strategy for stopping the cratering of his support," said Ihor Korbabicz of Abacus Data.

Graves is even more blunt: "He needs to look premier ready."

That won't be easy, with the allegations against him and his party that Wynne and Horwath are likely to come back to again and again.

In the first debate, Ford merely needed to reassure. This time around, he has to win back the support he's lost.

Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne is trailing well behind in the polls. She has nothing to lose in Sunday's debate. (David Donnelly/CBC)

Wynne: A chance to reconnect?


After winning a surprise majority in the last election, Wynne is trailing far behind in the polls. She's got nothing to lose in this debate, which may be to her advantage. She's by far the best speaker of the three leaders, which will come in handy when the debate gets heated.

"It might be fun being Kathleen Wynne in this debate, even if it hasn't been fun being Kathleen Wynne in this campaign," said Korbabicz.
After being criticized in the first debate for delving too deeply into policy on occasion, Wynne will likely divide her time between trying to show why her opponents are not fit to govern and reintroducing her plan to help the people of Ontario.

But according to a member of her team, don't expect any potshots from the Liberal leader. She's planning to take the high road — even if Ford mentions her smile again — to reconnect with anxious voters.

But with previous surveys showing that more than three-quarters of voters want a change, it's unclear whether this debate offers a real chance to convince jaded Ontarians to reconsider the Liberals.

About the Author


Joanne Chianello
City affairs analyst
Joanne Chianello is an award-winning journalist and CBC Ottawa's city affairs analyst. You can email her at joanne.chianello@cbc.ca or tweet her at @jchianello.
 

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