David Raymond Amos@DavidRayAmos Replying to @DavidRayAmos@alllibertynews and 49 others Methinks I should be pleased to be informed that there is a Regent St on the North Side of Fat Fred City but I doubt anyone can find it in Google Maps N'esy Pas?
Fredericton council votes to put Tim Hortons drive-thru traffic fix on hold
Creation of north side turnaround would cost the city $40K
CBC News·
Drivers lining up for coffee are blocking a busy north side Fredericton intersection and access to other businesses. (Mike Heenan/CBC)
Fredericton City Council has voted to delay approval of a turnaround on the city's north side that would alleviate traffic jams caused by a Tim Hortons drive-thru.
Vehicles queuing for the drive-thru are blocking traffic on both Wallace Avenue and Main Street. City staff proposed a $40,000 fix last week that was expected to get underway later this fall.
The project would see a turnabout at the south end of Wallace Avenue to prevent long lineups that trickle onto Main Street and halt traffic.
At Monday night's council meeting, staff said changes the city made to the flow of traffic in the area back in 2003, contributed to the problem.
The city recently banned left turns into the Tim Hortons downtown off Regent Street because of a backup in traffic. (Mike Heenan/CBC)
At that time, Wallace Avenue was built as a route for city trucks to access the snow dump. And the Tim Hortons drive-thru was moved from Main Street to Wallace Avenue.
"It sent the queuing over to Wallace Avenue and not off of Main Street directly," said Sean Lee, assistant director of engineering for the city.
"There was a business that was there. It was functioning the way it was intended to function. We came in with a street reconstruction and extended the street to carry commercial traffic, and it was also able to allow for this queuing off of Wallace Avenue itself."
Residents 'paying a penalty'
Coun. John MacDermid said he has concerns about whether tax payers should be paying for a new turnaround.
"Whose responsibility is it to deal with those unintended consequences? Is it the taxpayer or is it the users and the business owners?," MacDermid said.
A concrete turnaround will be installed at the bottom of Wallace and Cityview avenues. This way, people who want coffee from Tim Hortons can turn around and get back up the street to make a right turn into the coffee business. (Lauren Bird/CBC)
"I think that's a larger part of the conversation. We need to figure this out because quite honestly, the way the drive-thrus are right now, the residents are paying a penalty for ease of access to businesses."
The issue will come before council again on Oct. 15.
George Smith Steve Ryan "Saint John has other places where one can find better coffee. Try A & W, McD's or some of the uptown independents." Reply to @SteveRyan: I agree. Funny you don't see this at Micky D's, Wendys, or any other fast food restaurant and most of those are drive through.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @George Smith: Need I say I found this a far more interesting revelation about your friends. Methinks these type of dudes in Fat Fred City don't hang around Micky D's, Wendys, or any other fast food restaurant often N'esy Pas?
George Smith Reply to @Jebidoah Shylah: "I know many who have lived most of their lives doing marijuana and hashish while working in all walks of life and had no problems of the kind discribed by you. I actually knew a Deputy Minister of Justice and a high ranking assistant to a N.B. premier and cabinet minister who did these drugs.
David Raymond Amos Methinks whereas Chucky Leblanc hangs around Tims a lot perhaps his buddies Councillor John MacDermid and the Mayor should pay for his coffee and in return I have no doubt the "Blogger" would be more than Happy Happy Happy to direct the traffic for nearly everyone who knows him well in the downtown area N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Methinks I should be pleased to be informed that there is a Regent St on the North Side of Fat Fred City but I doubt anyone find it in Google Maps N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks the light just dawned on my marblehead Fat Fred City has a problem with traffic to both Tims N'esy Pas?
Daniel Rawlins What in sam hill is a turnabout?
David Raymond Amos Reply to @Daniel Rawlins: Methinks a turnabout is fair play N'esy Pas?
David Urquhart Not sure solutions like this will solve a growing problem. They probably just make it easier for even more people to contribute to the problem. Automatic photo ticketing for those blocking traffic (at any drive through location) would very quickly solve the problem. When a coffee and muffin is $180.00 people will very quickly change their behaviour.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Urquhart: maybe they will wise up, buy a coffee machine and make their muffins at home. Much better coffee and tastier muffins!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks Fat Fred City would wise up and help all the Fat Dumb and Happy SANB supporting bureaucrats get their morning coffee and muffin to take to work and sip on as they do nothing but dream of more tasty treats to come at lunch time N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should bring the homeless home and share your coffee and tasty muffins N'esy Pas?
Methinks the milk of human kindness runs pretty thin within the wealthy SANB territory particularly during the time of a rather interesting federal election N'esy Pas?
