Imagine if it was your child or a gay dude or a father who worshiped some other god than the Christian one? Methinks you liberals would be greatly offended then N'esy Pas?
Cartoonist set to replace de Adder quits, says he 'wouldn't wish this on anyone'
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David R. Amos Surprise Surprise Surprise
George Halbert McKinney The comments here seem to be warming up for the Federal election. Maximize outrage / content. On EVERY side.
David R. Amos
Reply to @George Halbert McKinney: Welcome to the Circus
Brent Grywinski Who wants to work for a business when you make a editorial cartoon that will upset the powers that be and you are canned immediately afterwards?
Glen Williams
Reply to @Brent Grywinski: You are wrong. It was in poor taste to incorporate a dead father and child into the cartoon. It was disgusting. Perhaps when you die a cartoon can be done of you dead in your casket with the casket open and a drink in your hand and someone put a cigarette in your mouth.
Harold Benson
Reply to @Glen Williams: Male cow feces.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Glen Williams: "You are wrong. It was in poor taste to incorporate a dead father and child into the cartoon. It was disgusting"
I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Harold Benson Reply to @David R. Amos: But, when the power pees you off, what can you do but yell.
Harold Benson
Reply to @David R. Amos: See ya.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Harold Benson: Methinks Sam forgot to tell you about Federal Court File No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas?
Thomas Thompson
Reply to @Glen Williams: It was a powerful political statement, which is the purpose and goal of most editorial cartoons. Nothing at all to do with taste, good, poor, or otherwise.
David R. Amos
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Reply to @Thomas Thompson: Imagine if it was your child or a gay dude or a father who worshiped some other god than the Christian one? Methinks you liberals would be greatly offended then N'esy Pas?
Glen Williams Reply to @Thomas Thompson: Disagree. It was with a dead child and father in it. Disgusting.
Dave Moyer Reply to @Glen Williams: So what do you think of Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal"?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Dave Moyer: Methinks you should as yourself why Swift published it anonymously N'esy Pas?
Noel Fowles
Reply to @David R. Amos: why don't you give up on the "N'esy Pas" It has become juvenile and trite.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Noel Fowles: Cry me a river
David R. Amo
Reply to @Noel Fowles: Methinks if CBC can block my indignation of a dude making a cartoon about the tragic demise of a father and child I should at least be permitted to have fun with my Chiac N'esy Pas?
Dan Burli A cartoonist is exactly what a stand up comedian is. You can't censor them. You cringe, laugh or whatever move on. There is no politically correct jokes or caricatures. I'm sure after the Trump one he would have done one to meditate the outradgeous one.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Dan Burli: Methinks you can also not employ a nasty stand up comedian in your venue if you don't wish to N'esy Pas?
Greg Smith So far in one month BNI has blocked reports of just how little carbon tax they'll pay compared to NB taxpayers, and now muzzled a political cartoonist known for his critique of Trump. Is it any surprise that the wealthy oligarchs are looking after their own ilk? I bet the Irvings and Trumps use the same network of accountants in the Cayman Islands.
David R. Amos Reply to @Greg Smith: Methinks everybody knows the Irving Clan has been known to employ KPMG N'esy Pas?
Al Clark LOL this has already shaken irvnews' foundations so much that they've issued TWO explanations when they normally just ignore the news and hope it goes away, like the Hogan lawsuit and the TFW village in Chipman. Now things get hotter! I love it!!!!!
David R. Amos Reply to @Al Clark: "Now things get hotter! I love it!!!!!"
Me Too Methinks its interesting that I would agree with you N'esy Pas?
Eileen Kinley The fact that BNI contacted Perry a few weeks before axing de Adder does not mean de Adder's Trump cartoons were not a factor. From one of the earlier articles:
On Twitter, de Adder also said that every Trump cartoon he submitted for the past year was axed.
It *is* shameful that people on social media lashed out at Perry, to the point where he decided not to take the job. Having said that, given that BNI insisted on running his cartoon when he asked them not to he may be better off in the end.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Eileen Kinley: Well put
Stephen Gillis BNI sounds like a pretty sketchy organization from all this.
John Gerrits
Reply to @Stephen Gillis: BNI(Irving)....New Brunswick......what's good for Irving is good for NB.....1 in the same.
David R. Amos
Reply to @John Gerrits: Methinks if you wanted to jerk an old dog's chain to hear him growl consider yourself a raging success However i will wager that was just a joke N'esy Pas?
David Sampson The Irvings need to attend to what they do best, bleed the system and pursue greed in all it's industrial colorful manners. They know absolutely nothing about journalism except they excise the power to control it if we ascend to their ignorance. Maybe it's time to intervene and stop fringe right wing industrialists from participation in media ownership!
David R. Amos Reply to @David Sampson: Methinks the Yankees have some pretty good laws that put a stop to monopolies Perhaps we should adopt a few N'esy Pas?
Fred Brewer I admire and respect Mr. Perry for withdrawing his acceptance of the BNI job. Having said that, and after viewing his first cartoon, I am beginning to see why BNI hired him in the first place. That's a very pro oil & gas cartoon if there ever was one.
David R. Amos Reply to @Fred Brewer: "I am beginning to see why BNI hired him in the first place. That's a very pro oil & gas cartoon if there ever was one."
Me too
Richard McDonell Two thoughts: First, being from the far side of the country, I know nothing of BNI, but so far they seem to be jerks. Second: I really think the world was a better place before "social media." It seems to be a platform for internally ugly people to spout their hatred and drivel from a position of relative anonymity.
David R. Amos Reply to @Richard McDonell: "I really think the world was a better place before "social media"
Methinks a as a long suffering blogger before there ever was such at thing I obviously strongly disagree as is my right particularly in light of the fact that the Irving Clan killed my first blog with Google in 2008 N'esy Pas?
BTW I cut my teeth raising political hell with Yankees within Yahoo Geo Cities and many Internet forums way back in the 1990's long before i ran for a seat in Parliament in 2004 or Google filed their IPO
Shawn McShane Deer biologist who spent years working for the government of New Brunswick who said plunging deer populations in the province are part of a larger crisis in New Brunswick’s forests...just got fired...in this place.
Coincidence?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Nope
Andy Macphail Brunswick News has turfed a lot of good journalism people over the years.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Andy Macphail: Please name just one
James Risdon Greg, You can't let the tin foil hat segment of the social media world dictate your life. It's your life and they're your cartoons and so it's your decision.
A lot of people on social media - and in a lot of media columns and websites these days - talk trash and say things they'd never have the guts to repeat to the face of the person they are attacking. In my view, such people are cowards and have no moral right to dictate how anyone will live his or her life.
Whatever you decide to do, Greg, I wish you well.
JJ Carrier
Reply to @James Risdon: Read the previous article when Perry was called out by that freaky looking fellow cartoonist as a lightweight...When you were part of our local media James, if you remember, in your Chaleur-Restigouche years we sometimes disagreed on coverage in our respective media but we 'pooled' at bigger events and rarely attacked each other in print or in person in such an unprofessional manner when we didn't see eye to eye...You sink or swim together...In the Bennett, Port of Belledune, Biker Wars, 2003 Canada Winter Games, and Belledune coverage, which were big files we always showed respect to each other from Gaspe to Miramichi...Methinks this cartoonist needs to apologize to Greg...Also, him saying de Adder is the best? Not as long as Terry Mosher is alive..
James Risdon
Reply to @JJ Carrier: That's just one guy's opinion. It's not a big deal. Yes, back in the day journalists did show some sort of professional respect to one another. Even when they disagreed in private, in editorial story meetings or over a beer at the pub, they'd at least be civil to one another in public. Those days, alas, seem to be gone. These days, all bets are off, it seems.
I've been called everything from "a legend" and "the best journalist in New Brunswick" to stuff so negative and nasty that I can't repeat it here because I'm sure it wouldn't be tolerated. Let's just say not everyone is a fan. Far from it.
And that's okay.
We're all just doing the best we can, learning from our mistakes and moving forward. There will almost always be someone better than us - and someone all too ready to remind us of that fact. That's a good thing.
By accepting that we're not the best, we can also accept that there are things we can learn to become better.
Twenty years ago or so, I won journalism awards. Since then, I've learnt to build news websites, consulted on editorial projects for news organizations, learnt how to make videos, managed public meetings, overseen a trade show, handled e-commerce, set up a business, freelanced for a newspaper chain that didn't even exist back in the day, written and voiced over radio ads, hosted a cable TV show, run for public office - albeit unsuccessfully so far - three times, managed social media for a municipality, built a website for a local business - and taught myself to play the guitar and a bit of other stuff too.
The more I learn and the more I do, the more I realize I'm not the best and that I still have a lot to learn.
Greg Perry should hang in there. Right now, he's his own worst critic.
David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: "Let's just say not everyone is a fan. Far from it"
Methinks that is true N'esy Pas?
James Risdon
Reply to @David R. Amos: Everything I say is true. I am an incorrigibly honest straight shooter.
David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: So you say and I am just chopped liver correct?
James Risdon
Reply to @David R. Amos: I've never made any claims about you being liver, chopped or otherwise. ;-)
David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: I am not laughing
James Risdon
Reply to @David R. Amos: Well, you should. Laughter is, after all, the best medicine. Unless one has an actual, serious medical condition. Then, medicine is the best medicine.
David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Tell that to the cops who assaulted me and see if they will laugh with you?
Jonathan Lemon BNI's handling of this is a PR disaster.
James Risdon
Reply to @Jonathan Lemon: Not necessarily. For one thing, it's not over yet. They still have time to turn this around. And, secondly, they've got everyone talking about their newspapers and curious to see the editorial cartoons. That's a lot of free publicity.
David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Yea Right Methinks you are hustling for a job N'esy Pas?
James Risdon: You know, most of you are forgetting a very important thing. U.S. President Donald Trump doesn't care about you.
He doesn't care about your views on the Irvings. He doesn't care about Brunswick News. And he certainly doesn't care if Michael de Adder produces yet another cartoon in the media mocking him.
Trump probably couldn't even find New Brunswick on the map, much less care what all of you and de Adder think of him.
He's the president of the United States of America, one of the world's super-powers. Last year, the United States had a gross domestic product of $20.5 TRILLION U.S. dollars. That's 10 times the economy of our entire country.
New Brunswick is very small potatoes in this bigger scheme of things.
It would be ridiculous for the Irvings to think Trump would somehow be so incensed by one editorial cartoon in their papers in our tiny province that he would take any sort of action against their business interests.
Whatever happened between de Adder and Brunswick News almost certainly has nothing to do with Trump. To believe otherwise is to think the Irvings are paranoid and Trump is an overly-sensitive childish brat.
They're not. And, whatever his other failings, Trump is not either.
David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks your political party leader should have told you to Google the folllowing N'esy Pas?
Trump Cohen Amos NAFTA TPP FATCA
David R. Amos Reply to @James Risdon: "I don't have a political party leader"
Did the KISS Party grow tired of you too?.
James Risdon Reply to @David R. Amos: Not to the best of my knowledge. As soundly defeated as I was in the last election, I did, after all, get the most votes of any of the KISS candidates. But the KISS party no longer exists. So, my statement still holds. I have no party leader. Not that it would be relevant to this conversation anyways. It's not like KISS had a direct line to the White House or was being backed by the Irvings.
Harold Benson
Reply to @James Risdon: i'll bet you vote libby
James Risdon
Reply to @Harold Benson: Oh?
David R. Amos
Reply to @James Risdon: "I did, after all, get the most votes of any of the KISS candidates"
Methinks if you measure a dude's integrity by the number of votes they get then Trump and Trudeau should be your heroes and I am just chopped liver N'esy Pas?
Cartoonist set to replace de Adder quits, says he 'wouldn't wish this on anyone'
Greg Perry says social media backlash has 'destroyed' his character and cartoons
A cartoon by Greg Perry appeared in Wednesday's newspapers even though he says he asked Brunswick News not to use any of his work anymore. (Greg Perry/Brunswick News Inc.)
The cartoonist who was set to replace Michael de Adder at Brunswick News Inc. says he no longer wants to work for the company and asked that his cartoons be kept off the editorial pages of its newspapers.
In a statement to CBC News, Greg Perry said the social media backlash after BNI parted ways with de Adder, then used his name in statements about the decision, has taken a toll.
"I don't use social media, but person/persons who do have used it to essentially destroy my character and my cartoon work.
"All this over a job that pays the same per month as a job at a grocery chain. I wouldn't wish this on anyone."
The Halifax-based de Adder was let go last week, just days after his cartoon depicting U.S. President Donald Trump playing golf next to the bodies of two dead migrants went viral.
His supporters on social media took up de Adder's cause, accusing BNI of dropping the cartoonist for business reasons having to do with the Irving interests that own BNI not wanting to antagonize Trump.
In a statement, BNI has said that letting de Adder go was not related to the Trump cartoon.
"The decision to bring back reader favourite Greg Perry was made long before this cartoon, and negotiations had been ongoing for weeks," said the newspaper chain, which owns all three English-language dailies in the province and almost all of the weeklies.
BNI called before Trump cartoon
Perry's statement on Wednesday confirmed that BNI made its offer weeks before de Adder posted his Trump cartoon. He said a BNI representative contacted him at the beginning of June to ask him to start working for the newspapers again. He previously worked alongside de Adder, but was let go two years ago.
Perry, who lives in Vancouver, said he didn't accept the offer immediately but weighed his options during the next two weeks. He finally accepted the offer "at the urging of some friends and family members," he said.
On Friday, he was asked to provide cartoons he'd already drawn in case de Adder decided he didn't want to work the two-week departure agreement.
Then "several critical events" took place over the long weekend, Perry said. These included a social media backlash after de Adder tweeted that he was let go from Brunswick News after 17 years.
Halifax-based Michael de Adder announced on Friday that Brunswick News Inc. would no longer be using his cartoons. (Mairin Prentiss/CBC)
Perry said the resulting social media outrage, and the "the resulting attacks on me after BNI used my name in a clarification story etc. — caused me to change my mind" about accepting the offer.
He said he informed BNI that "it would be best if they found someone else to draw cartoons."
The chain "insisted on running the cartoons I'd provided way back on Friday, despite my asking them not to," said Perry, whose work also appears in the Toronto Star.
Perry said he has not drawn any cartoons specifically for BNI since he accepted, then rejected, the company's offer.
I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir