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Auditor general urged MLAs to probe Saint John bailout approval
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David R. Amos
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Methinks the Fed AG or somebody should explain why CBC keeps deleting my comments and IDS N'esy Pas? Matt Steele
It is doubtful if an investigation will reveal anything that is not already obvious . Brian Gallant and his SANB advisers went on a FOUR YEAR SPENDING SPREE with absolutely no regard for the taxpayers money . Gallant treated taxpayers cash like his own personal piggy bank ; and when he seen power slipping from his grasp , he tried to BUY THE ELECTION by giving the City of Saint John a 23 million dollar bailout after four years of neglect . When you look at Gallants excessive international travel , the property tax scam , the Francophonie Games Scam , the Saint John Bailout Out Scam , and the wild out of control hiring of all his personal friends and Liberal supporters ; then it seems clear that Gallant was acting in HIS OWN BEST INTERESTS
Emilien Forest
Richard Dunn
Brian Gallant is hiding, Cathy Rogers is telling people to look away, and Roger Melanson is stalling in holding a hearing. The corruption, deceit and general lack of qualifications, within the liberal party continue.
The three of them are guilty and need to resign.
Colin Seeley
Reply to @Richard Dunn:
Also Cathy Rogers is still out there. Still shilling things like only “ asking people who can afford it to pay “ Whatever that means.
Also Cathy Rogers is still out there. Still shilling things like only “ asking people who can afford it to pay “ Whatever that means.
Richard Dunn
Reply to @Colin Seeley: Cathy Rogers has zero shame, it is quite sad.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Richard Dunn: Methinks no politician is allowed to show that emotion after they take their oath to the Queen N'esy Pas?
David Peters
No mention of how or why Saint John needed to be bailed out...
David R. Amos
Reply to @David Peters: BINGO
Laurie Clark
NB is a corrupt province no matter which party is in power! Come to think of it, most governments are corrupt and it is really getting rather sickening!
Harold Benson
Reply to @Laurie Clark: From Ottawa right down to all the provinces.There is a black hole of corruption that none of them seem able to stay out of. The event horizon is the day they are sworn in.
Alison Jackson
Reply to @Harold Benson:
You could have the best line up for sainthood elected into power, totally supported by a 100% vote count in who's ever favor it is, and still people will complain about who is in power.
Did it ever don on people that it's not always the politicians fault as it more often is a corporation behind holding the politician hostage? NB has an oligarchy in place that is headquartered in Saint John (well, Bermuda if anyone wants to actually hold them accountable) who probably are behind the scenes in this. I'd look there first.
You could have the best line up for sainthood elected into power, totally supported by a 100% vote count in who's ever favor it is, and still people will complain about who is in power.
Did it ever don on people that it's not always the politicians fault as it more often is a corporation behind holding the politician hostage? NB has an oligarchy in place that is headquartered in Saint John (well, Bermuda if anyone wants to actually hold them accountable) who probably are behind the scenes in this. I'd look there first.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Laurie Clark: Obviously I wholeheartedly Agree Methink everybody knows thats why I ran for public office 6 times this far and sued the Queen, The Taxman a Cardinal and more lawyers and law firms than most folks can name N'esy Pas?
Debi Mcdonald
Reply to @Laurie Clark: What is even more sickening is Federally and provincial levels, we the taxpayer have no say or power to do anything that has been going on for the past 10 years and that is being kind. All we have is every 4 years vote the party out. Much more accountability has to become the new norm. Millions of dollars just disappear without any records. How can that be in 2019 ?
Harold Benson
Yeah right just like the ATCON 6 was dealt with.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Harold Benson: Methinks Sam forgot to remind you about La Caisse populaire de Shippagan N'esy Pas?
David Peters
A full accounting of the $22.8 Million would be prudent, imo.
Complete fiscal transparency might be the solution. All gov't income/expenditures could be publicly accounted for and displayed on a daily updated website.
David R. Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Donald Smith
Its amazing how Saint John is CASH STRAPPED, But yet, they were able to VOTE FOR A PAY RAISE. I'm sure we'd all be able to vote ourselves A PAY RAISE, Right Don ??
David R. Amos
Reply to @Donald Smith: Good luck getting an answer from the Mayor
Mike Morton
Perhaps the government should consider shifting funding from the Language Commissioner's Department to the Auditor General's Department. Seems to offer bigger bang for your buck.
Natalie Pugh
Reply to @Mike Morton: Precisely what the PANB has been saying for years. We DO NOT need a Language Commissioner, in fact that department is part of the problem!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Mike Morton: Methinks there are at least dudes named Carrier who would disagree with you N'esy Pas?
David Stairs
isn't it amazing how these guys need to get together and study how to go forward on the Auditor's report and findings...here's a new concept for ya fellers...Call the Police and let them do what they do best and stop interfering in the process..let's stop the coverups...
David R. Amos
Reply to @David Stairs: Dream on
Brian Robertson
Yes; that's a lot of money.
Almost half that swept under the rug to Atcon.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Brian Robertson: Methinks Carl Urquhart and all the Conservatives wish to forget what was swept under the rug of La Caisse populaire de Shippagan N'esy Pas?
Kelly Sherrard
I have immense respect for the AG and her office. If she thinks the MLAs should move on this, THEY SHOULD. She is sounding the alarm and the MLAs should wake up and smell the smoke before the house burns down!
David R. Amos
Reply to @kelly sherrard: "I have immense respect for the AG and her office."
I don't
I don't
Auditor general urged MLAs to probe Saint John bailout approval
Kim MacPherson said MLA committee 'has the obligation' to dig deeper in $22.8M aid package
Auditor General Kim MacPherson urged MLAs to seize the initiative and aggressively pursue some of the questions raised in her recent audit. (CBC)
The legislature's public accounts committee could adopt a tougher approach to investigating government misspending, if Auditor General Kim MacPherson has her way.
In a little-noticed comment during her recent appearance before the committee, MacPherson urged MLAs to seize the initiative and aggressively pursue some of the questions raised in her recent audit.
"The committee has the obligation, and they're a key part of the accountability process, to take it from here," she said
In a little-noticed comment during her recent appearance before the committee, MacPherson urged MLAs to seize the initiative and aggressively pursue some of the questions raised in her recent audit.
"The committee has the obligation, and they're a key part of the accountability process, to take it from here," she said
MacPherson said top civil servants who know key details of the former Liberal government's Saint John budget bailout should be hauled in, as a group, to testify about what happened behind the scenes.
"I think there's a lot that can be done to correct the wrongs here, starting with hearings with the deputy ministers," she said.
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Liberal MLA Roger Melanson, who chairs the public accounts committee, says he will discuss the auditor general's suggestion with MLAs from other parties first. (CBC)
Committee chair Roger Melanson, a Liberal MLA, said he "listened carefully" to the auditor general's suggestions and agreed that the committee should "probably should look at evolving some of its functions."
He said first he'll discuss the idea with MLAs from other parties on the committee and then they'll probably have to take it back to their caucuses.
"There's still a process to follow to get to a point where a decision would be made," he said.
But PC MLA Glen Savoie said Melanson shouldn't wait.
"He's the chair. He can call this. He doesn't need to go back to his caucus," he said.
"Let's get the deputy ministers in as soon as possible, whether it's next week, to make sure taxpayers get the full appreciation of what happened in this situation."
Her audit said a three-year, $22.8-million Liberal government package to help the city through its financial crunch violated the Local Governance Act. That act sets out how a municipality deals with a budget deficit.
MacPherson also concluded that spending the money without it being appropriated by the legislature violated the Financial Administration Act, though she said officials at the Treasury Board disagreed.
In last week's CBC New Brunswick Political Panel podcast, MLAs from the Progressive Conservative, People's Alliance and Green parties said the Liberals should face consequences for the violations.
But they weren't clear on the right way to pursue that.
"If you broke the law, you charge them with breaking the law," Finance Minister Ernie Steeves said.
"I don't know if it's us that has to make the complaint or if the auditor general, through her report, is sufficient enough for the police to act. I don't know. I'm not a cop or anything."
The former Liberal government extended a $22.8-million bailout package to Saint John. Auditor General Kim MacPherson latest report says that represented “excessive risk” to taxpayers. PC Finance Minister Ernie Steeves, Green Party MLA Kevin Arseneau and People’s Alliance Rick DeSaulniers debated the fallout from the AG’s report. 27:46
Circumventing the two laws isn't a violation of the Criminal Code, and the sections MacPherson cited don't carry any fines or penalties under provincial legislation.
Other MLAs on the panel suggested the government deal with the issue itself or that the integrity commissioner get involved.
But MacPherson told MLAs June 13 that in the British parliamentary system, the committee itself has the power to push for solutions.
Deputy ministers from government departments periodically appear before the public accounts committee to answer questions about their departments' work in the previous year.
But there's no fixed schedule. It often takes a year or more before officials from an audited department end up in front of the MLAs.
MacPherson recommended the committee move quickly to summon deputy ministers from all the departments with a role in the Saint John bailout.
She said they should appear as a group, "not one at a time, and not a year from now … so that the committee can get all the answers as one time."
She said that's what often happens in other legislatures using the Westminster model. In some provinces, the auditor general attends the hearings where officials are grilled.
Savoie also questioned how urgently Melanson will push for the hearings, given he was the minister of the Treasury Board at the time the money was paid to Saint John without proper approval.
"I think there's a lot that can be done to correct the wrongs here, starting with hearings with the deputy ministers," she said.
Liberal MLA Roger Melanson, who chairs the public accounts committee, says he will discuss the auditor general's suggestion with MLAs from other parties first. (CBC)
Committee chair Roger Melanson, a Liberal MLA, said he "listened carefully" to the auditor general's suggestions and agreed that the committee should "probably should look at evolving some of its functions."
He said first he'll discuss the idea with MLAs from other parties on the committee and then they'll probably have to take it back to their caucuses.
"There's still a process to follow to get to a point where a decision would be made," he said.
But PC MLA Glen Savoie said Melanson shouldn't wait.
"He's the chair. He can call this. He doesn't need to go back to his caucus," he said.
"Let's get the deputy ministers in as soon as possible, whether it's next week, to make sure taxpayers get the full appreciation of what happened in this situation."
MacPherson's suggestion, made to the committee on June 13, offers a mechanism to MLAs who have been grappling with how to further probe the Saint John deal.
Her audit said a three-year, $22.8-million Liberal government package to help the city through its financial crunch violated the Local Governance Act. That act sets out how a municipality deals with a budget deficit.
MacPherson also concluded that spending the money without it being appropriated by the legislature violated the Financial Administration Act, though she said officials at the Treasury Board disagreed.
MLAs mull investigation
In last week's CBC New Brunswick Political Panel podcast, MLAs from the Progressive Conservative, People's Alliance and Green parties said the Liberals should face consequences for the violations.
But they weren't clear on the right way to pursue that.
"If you broke the law, you charge them with breaking the law," Finance Minister Ernie Steeves said.
"I don't know if it's us that has to make the complaint or if the auditor general, through her report, is sufficient enough for the police to act. I don't know. I'm not a cop or anything."
The Political Panel from CBC News New Brunswick
June 20: What’s the fallout from the auditor general’s report into the Saint John bailout package?
00:0027:46
Other MLAs on the panel suggested the government deal with the issue itself or that the integrity commissioner get involved.
MacPherson calls for quick action
But MacPherson told MLAs June 13 that in the British parliamentary system, the committee itself has the power to push for solutions.
Deputy ministers from government departments periodically appear before the public accounts committee to answer questions about their departments' work in the previous year.
But there's no fixed schedule. It often takes a year or more before officials from an audited department end up in front of the MLAs.
MacPherson recommended the committee move quickly to summon deputy ministers from all the departments with a role in the Saint John bailout.
She said they should appear as a group, "not one at a time, and not a year from now … so that the committee can get all the answers as one time."
She said that's what often happens in other legislatures using the Westminster model. In some provinces, the auditor general attends the hearings where officials are grilled.
Savoie also questioned how urgently Melanson will push for the hearings, given he was the minister of the Treasury Board at the time the money was paid to Saint John without proper approval.
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Auditor general urged MLAs to probe Saint John bailout approval
Kim MacPherson said MLA committee 'has the obligation' to dig deeper
in $22.8M aid package
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jun 24, 2019 6:00 AM AT
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David R. Amos
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People's Alliance holds first annual meeting since electoral breakthrough
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David Amos
Methinks the SANB are very nervous that Krisy Baby Austin and his PANB
buddies may garner more support N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: sure, all 100 of them!
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks the best part of the photo
offered is that I did not see one member of the RCMP who protects your
cohorts N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks I struck another nerve and the Feds
made another faux pas N'esy Pas?
Colin Seeley
Perhaps they need to talk and come up with a plan to permanently fix
the pooo warnings on Shediac beaches.
The Blue Beach is full of pooo today.
Unreal.
Matt Steele
Reply to @Colin Seeley: .......After all the time and effort that was
put in to get the BLUE FLAG designation for clean water ; they can't
even go in the water on the day that the flag is raised . Very ironic
indeed .
Bob Smith
Reply to @Matt Steele: When they tried to game the system to get the
Blue Flag designation and get hoisted on the very petard they tried to
dismiss, it is....justice.
Josef Blow
Reply to @Colin Seeley: you mean the People’s Appliance when you say “they”?
David Amos
Reply to @Colin Seeley: Methinks you dudes are debating the wrong news
item for some strange reason N'esy Pas?
Daryl Doucette
Reply to @Colin Seeley: Quebec poo.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @daryl doucette: maybe if they like the beach so much, they
could all move over here and we could have the language referendum
that you so long for?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Over Here???
Methinks I sense a minion of the SANB make a Freudian slip N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: nope, believe me; I would be the first to invoke
the Constitution guaranteeing the protection of the two official
languages, English & French given that I am fluent in both to
boot!
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks it would not be wise to
believe anything you claim until you get a real name N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
And I am not restricted to the redundant expression: "N'esy pas" I might add
David Amos
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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should learn to obey the
rules of the CBC comment section N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks the comments of mine that CBC
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David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I might add that methinks Its Too Too
Funny that you cannot read my las ttwo replies unless you visit my
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Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: funny! Should I laugh now... or later?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: visit your blog? No time to waste!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you know as well as I why I
don't care what you falsely claim as I send a pack of lawyers and cops
another email about you and your cohorts You can always review it in
my blog when you find the time after watching your hockey games N'esy
Pas?
"out of control hiring of all his personal friends and Liberal supporters "
The last I check the conservatives has done the same thing. Higgs hired some Irving colleagues at a very generous wage.