David Raymond Amos@DavidRayAmos Replying to @DavidRayAmos@alllibertynews and 48 others The interesting part to me is why are Meng's lawyers ignoring my calls and emails. Methinks they are enjoying the ride on the gravy train while two Canadians are in jeopardy in China N'esy Pas?
RCMP and CBSA say Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou's phones never examined as claimed
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Rex Yuan Honestly, would anyone believe RCMP and CBSA confiscated Meng's phones and did nothing about them ? So what's the purpose of confiscating her phones ? Meng never asked for a lawyer ? If we are arrested by a cop, we would get a standard reminder that we are entitled to a lawyer. Why didn't RCMP and CBSA made such offer, particularly for a foreigner ? This case is not just about Huawei or Meng, it is about our very own law enforcement agencies. A sad day.
Bob Kindle
Reply to @Rex Yuan:
Yes, they knew who she was...
David Amos
Reply to @Bob Kindle: I wholeheartedly agree sir Perhaps you should check Federal Court File No T-1557-15.
The interesting part to me is why are Meng's lawyers ignoring my calls and emails. Methinks they are enjoying the ride on the gravy train while two Canadians are in jeopardy in China N'esy Pas?
Solomon Kane
Reply to @David Amos: In all seriousness I think you need some help. I see no reason at all that you should be communicating with her lawyers as a private Canadian citizen.
Woodie Guy Security guards around her need to go to Tims for doughnuts while she slips out of the country solving Canada's problems with China. Trump can do his own dirty work.
David Amos
Reply to @woodie guy: I concur
Zapata Rigoreto I'm sure Ms Meng has been treated with great care and in a perfectly legal manner. The same cannot be said for the two Canadian diplomats currently in some Chinese prison.
Bob Kindle
Reply to @Zapata Rigoreto: Amen! China's response to this is alarming. Plus, what if she is guilty? That makes China guilty! Which makes there response terrifying! Is this how China reacts to being caught breaking international law?
and people on this board are claiming we should give her back for more "trade" with China! Scary... Money over anything, eh?
Eva Beeley
Reply to @Zapata Rigoreto:
'Michael Kovrig, a former Canadian diplomat, working for the CIA front, International Crisis Group, and Michael Spavor, a man who has managed to insert himself into the inner circle of the government of the DPRK by arranging trips to the DPRK, often a cover for western espionage, both accused of endangering Chinese national security.'
Christopher Black, international criminal lawyer of high-profile war crimes cases ~ December 14, 2018
Joe Kaufman
Reply to @Zapata Rigoreto: Kidnapping a Chinese citizen for political reasons is a very serious crime. One that has already costed Canadians billions. And for what, six months later and she's still here waiting for actual evidence to be supplied by the US government! This is a farce that has given Canada a black eye in the eyes of the international community.
David Amos
Reply to @Joe Kaufman: "This is a farce that has given Canada a black eye in the eyes of the international community"
I agree but I doubt that all of the farmers or the fellas the Chinese are prosecuting find anything funny about this.
Bob DeJohn
Reply to @Zapata Rigoreto: "perfectly legal" Riiiight. Detaining a foreign national for half a year without a trial is super legal here. Making her pay for her own security is also super normal. I don't understand why people are surprised when there is backlash for us doing the dirty deeds for the US.
Onager Smith "Bob DeJohn" - nice Canadian-sounding name there, China...
Mike Murphy
Reply to @Bob DeJohn: Ms Meng offered to pay her own security so she could be freed on bail, any Canadians free on bail in China?
RCMP and CBSA say Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou's phones never examined as claimed
Authorities deny breaching Huawei executive's rights during December arrest at Vancouver airport
Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou is facing possible extradition to the United States. The RCMP and CBSA claim her Charter rights were never violated. (Ben Nelms/CBC)
Lawyers for the RCMP and the Canada Border Services Agency claim agents have never examined electronic devices belonging to Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou.
Both agencies filed a joint response in B.C. Supreme Court Monday to Meng's civil suit claiming that her Charter rights were violated when she was detained and arrested at Vancouver International Airport on Dec. 1, 2018.
The court documents name two border services officers who searched Meng's luggage and seized her phones after she disembarked a flight from Hong Kong.
But they claim that while one officer wrote down the phone numbers and passwords, he didn't examine the contents of the electronic devices. And nor — allegedly — did police.
"The RCMP did not receive any information that the CBSA obtained in the course of the immigration and customs examinations of the plaintiff other than the piece of paper containing the phone numbers and passwords for the phones," the response to the civil claim reads.
"At no time has any RCMP officer examined the contents of the electronic devices or the phones."
Charges of conspiracy, fraud, obstruction
Meng was arrested at YVR at the behest of the United States, where prosecutors want her to stand trial for allegedly violating sanctions against Iran.
The 47-year-old is the daughter of Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei.
She is charged, along with the company, with 13 counts of conspiracy, fraud and obstruction related to an alleged scheme to circumvent sanctions against Iran through a shadow company in Tehran that prosecutors say was actually controlled by Huawei.
Meng Wanzhou has two homes in Vancouver, including this $15 million mansion in Shaughnessy where she is currently living. (Evan Mitsui/CBC)
Meng, who was released on $10 million bail in December, is currently guarded around the clock. She pays the security bill and recently moved from her home in Dunbar to a second house in Shaughnessy where she is living while she awaits an extradition hearing.
She filed a civil suit against the CBSA and the RCMP in March, claiming her Charter rights were violated.
She claims the two agencies colluded with American officials to have her detained for three hours and examined her phones without informing her of the reason for her detention, before she was officially arrested.
'She intended to visit her house'
But in their response, the RCMP and the CBSA claim they did everything by the book, flagging Meng for secondary inspection and then searching her luggage while asking her about the purpose of her visit to Canada.
Meng's trip to Vancouver has previously been described as a brief layover on her way to Mexico City, but according to the response, she intended to clear customs.
The RCMP and CBSA claim Meng's electronic devices were seized but not searched on her detention at Vancouver's airport in December, 2018. (Alexander Bibik/Reuters)
"The plaintiff indicated that she was in transit to Mexico but that during her layover, she intended to visit her house in Vancouver to drop off some belongings," the response reads.
"Since the plaintiff was intending to visit her house in Vancouver, the plaintiff proceeded to the customs hall to claim her luggage."
The agencies claim that Meng never asked to speak with a lawyer during the time in CBSA custody before she was arrested. They also claim that the three hour wait was not unusual to clear secondary inspection on a Saturday.
'So that data could not be remotely deleted'
The response to the civil suit also claims neither the RCMP nor the U.S. Department of Justice requested or suggested that the CBSA officers take any course of action or line of questioning during Meng's detention.
But they claim they did ask the CBSA to "protect any mobile phones that the plaintiff might have by placing them in bags, which the RCMP supplied to the CBSA, so that any data could not be remotely deleted."
Meng's legal team are set to make a brief appearance in B.C. Supreme Court this Thursday in preparation for a longer set of procedures in September aimed at arguing for more disclosure around her detention and arrest.
Her lawyers have indicated that they plan to ask a judge to dismiss the entire proceedings as a result of alleged breaches of her rights. They also plan to argue that she is the victim of political interference by U.S. President Donald Trump.
Meng is not expected to attend the hearing this week.
In response to her civil claim, the RCMP and the CBSA say Meng's allegations against them are without merit. They are asking for her civil suit to be dismissed with costs.
Jason Proctor is a reporter in British Columbia for CBC News and has covered the B.C. courts and mental health issues in the justice system extensively.
Yes, they knew who she was...
The interesting part to me is why are Meng's lawyers ignoring my calls and emails. Methinks they are enjoying the ride on the gravy train while two Canadians are in jeopardy in China N'esy Pas?
In all seriousness I think you need some help. I see no reason at all that you should be communicating with her lawyers as a private Canadian citizen.