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Methinks immersion will never work in school when folks speak English everywhere else the kids go N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/05/french-immersion-entry-point-remains-at.html
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David R. Amos
Methinks David **** and some other politicians must recall the RCMP falsely arresting me in 2008 not long after I dealt with the concerns about French Immersion with the Language Commissioners and the lawyer Alison Menard the Green Party N'esy Pas?
Terrance Thomasen
Why do we keep perpetuating the myth that speaking French is required in Canada. Wake up people. The language and culture is dying. Tell your governments it's a waste of time.
Craig Deleware
French is so important.....if you want to make $35K/year working as a flight attendant for Air Canada.
David R. Amos
Leroy McCarthy
Immersion will never work in grade school.
David R. Amos
Claude DeRoche
This is wasted money, get rid of bilingualism ! French only!
David R. Amos
Claude DeRoche
Me smells an election coming.
The days of the COR Party Crown Prince of Bermuda are counted!
He's been in hiding since Kevin Vickers was nominated!
Hey Blaine you said you were going to court to oppose the carbon tax!
Put your money where your mouth is, our province needs to lose more millions.
How about another trip to Washington?
David R. Amos
Lou Bell
Most kids drop out of French Immersion when they come to realize they don't need it and frank McKenna's " smoke and mirrors " propaganda was solely to get the Francophone vote, no matter who he had to sell out ! And he really stuck to everyone when with the Atcon Affair. Why help finance a failing family business when he can stick it to the people he had done it to so many times before ???
David R. Amos
Marguerite Deschamps
Come on Anglophones; you've smarter than that! Learn another language, it's good for the mind!
Mario Doucet
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Cardy said public consultations revealed challenges with the program go beyond the entry point.
"The current system is failing to graduate bilingual students," Cardy said in a statement Thursday. "A change in the entry point at this time would only address one small part of a larger challenge facing our education system."
However, in the legislature later in the day, the Progressive Conservatives voted down a proposal that would have made the Grade 1 entry point more permanent.
French immersion is a program designed to help students learn French through language arts and other subjects.
According to Policy 309 of the Department of Education, the goal is to get students to an "advanced" level on the provincial second-language proficiency scale. The scale has nine levels, with advanced being the third highest.
The most recent data available from the province show only 10 per cent of students who entered early immersion in 2005 achieved the goal of advanced proficiency by the end of Grade 12 in 2017.
"Our goal is to be top ten in the Program for International Student Assessment rankings in reading, math and science," Cardy said. The rankings, a program of the OECD, are released after an exam taken every three years by 15-year-old students around the world.
Cardy also announced a broader education review, which includes a plan to improve French second-language programming.
The provincial government will hold a summit Oct. 16 to 18 to get more input and ideas on how to improve the entire education system. The department is preparing a paper outlining where the education system currently stands and the goals for the future, which will be released next month, Cardy said.
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A 'summit' of players in the francophone and education school sectors will be held Oct. 16-18 to get more input and ideas on how to improve the entire education system. (iStock)Both anglophone and francophone school districts will participate, as well as international education experts.
This will be the first time the francophone and anglophone sectors will be brought together to talk about the education system in a comprehensive way, Cardy said.
"We need to hear from both sectors and we need to have both sectors talking more with each other."
The public will be invited to give input on all aspects of the system, including classroom composition, student engagement and the preparedness of graduating students.
Cardy said the responsibility for the province's education system isn't one-way.
"This is a societal project around education, and that means that parents have a responsibility to send their kids to school, they have to stay in school and once they are there, the responsibility on the government side we give them the world-class education."
George Daley, president of the New Brunswick Teachers' Association, said he's happy to hear the entry point isn't being changed this year.
"I think there will be some relief from a good deal of our membership knowing that we've got a bit of stability from the last two years."
Still, Daley said he thinks problems in education, including class composition and violence in the classroom, are too pressing to wait until the summit.
"The forum that they are talking about is a good idea, but I don't particularly want to wait until October to deal with these issues," Daley said.
"Whether it's French immersion or regular English classrooms, if we don't have effective class composition and appropriate learning environment no learning is going to go on in those rooms."
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George Daley, the president of New Brunswick Teachers' Association, says October is too late to deal with pressing issues in education. (CBC)Daley said the association will be looking to government to provide support for recruitment of both French and English teachers.
He said there were teaching positions this year that had to be filled by contracted local permit teachers, not enough certified teachers were available.
Local permit teachers are teachers who do not hold a Bachelor of Education degree but have a minimum of two years of post secondary education.
That was a first in his career, Daley said. Supply-teaching lists across the province also had to be opened up to local permit teachers.
Cardy said that recruiting more teachers is something the province is looking at, but the key issue is that there aren't enough students pursuing education degrees in the province.
He suggested the recruiting strategy will be part of a larger discussion around immigration and attracting teachers from outside the province.
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 47 others
Methinks immersion will never work in school when folks speak English everywhere else the kids go N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/05/french-immersion-entry-point-remains-at.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/french-immersion-grade-one-1.5129070
French immersion entry point remains at Grade 1 — for now
116 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
David R. Amos
Methinks David **** and some other politicians must recall the RCMP falsely arresting me in 2008 not long after I dealt with the concerns about French Immersion with the Language Commissioners and the lawyer Alison Menard the Green Party N'esy Pas?
Terrance Thomasen
Why do we keep perpetuating the myth that speaking French is required in Canada. Wake up people. The language and culture is dying. Tell your governments it's a waste of time.
John Cannothan
Reply to @Terrance Thomasen: LOL Terrance, you should write a thesis on the topic. You sound like a smart cookie.
David R. Amos
Reply to @John Cannothan: Methinks you should check my work Perhaps then you would quit laughing N'esy Pas?
Craig Deleware
French is so important.....if you want to make $35K/year working as a flight attendant for Air Canada.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Craig Deleware: Methinks you set your sights too low. Your command of the French and English lingos can make you a big score if you manage to get a job as staffer for a politician such as all the Premiers of Canada except Quebec. Only the Premier of Quebec and our current Prime Minister from Quebec are bilingual N'esy Pas/
Leroy McCarthy
Immersion will never work in grade school.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Leroy McCarthy: Methinks immersion will never work in school when folks speak English everywhere else the kids go N'esy Pas?
Claude DeRoche
This is wasted money, get rid of bilingualism ! French only!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Claude DeRoche: Methinks if you want your wish to come true you should move back to Quebec N'esy Pas?
Claude DeRoche
Me smells an election coming.
The days of the COR Party Crown Prince of Bermuda are counted!
He's been in hiding since Kevin Vickers was nominated!
Hey Blaine you said you were going to court to oppose the carbon tax!
Put your money where your mouth is, our province needs to lose more millions.
How about another trip to Washington?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Claude DeRoche: "Me smells an election coming."
Me Too
Me Too
Lou Bell
Most kids drop out of French Immersion when they come to realize they don't need it and frank McKenna's " smoke and mirrors " propaganda was solely to get the Francophone vote, no matter who he had to sell out ! And he really stuck to everyone when with the Atcon Affair. Why help finance a failing family business when he can stick it to the people he had done it to so many times before ???
David R. Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: "frank McKenna's " smoke and mirrors " propaganda was solely to get the Francophone vote"
Google "Harper and Bankers"
Google "Harper and Bankers"
Marguerite Deschamps
Come on Anglophones; you've smarter than that! Learn another language, it's good for the mind!
Mario Doucet
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
The problem is not learning another language but when we live in North America it is nearly impossible to retain and use what we learn.
The problem is not learning another language but when we live in North America it is nearly impossible to retain and use what we learn.
Shawn McShane
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Might try learning Mi'kmaq, they may be the overlords over all of South East NB, Shediac, Moncton, Dieppe...
Dan Lee
Reply to @Shawn McShane:
And so they should...........
And so they should...........
Shawn McShane
Reply to @Dan Lee: When they went to war with other tribes over territory what happened? When they sided with one group over the other, when they fought with the French over the British and then the British over the French and then the Americans and then the British again when the British were winning over the Americans...how is it so they should? If the Americans won? If the French won?
Dan Lee
Reply to @Shawn McShane:
Read of most treaties......British would speak the treaty and write on paper differantly......i have a portrait of an old map which shows here native land was......
Read of most treaties......British would speak the treaty and write on paper differantly......i have a portrait of an old map which shows here native land was......
Daryl Doucette
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: ok marguerite...go learn Chinese. Be good for your mind.
Mark (Junkman) George
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
Yes, and Mandarin Chinese should be anyone's first choice for a second language.
Yes, and Mandarin Chinese should be anyone's first choice for a second language.
Shawn McShane
Reply to @Dan Lee: To be brutal honest with you I don't disagree with the message, I disagree with the method. It should be all Canadians together. What we have is Divide and Conquer method by the Government of Canada ™️
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: "it's good for the mind!"
Methinks not if we wind up thinking like you N'esy Pas?
Methinks not if we wind up thinking like you N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Mark (Junkman) George: Methinks Chiac should be a Proud Maritimer's first choice N'esy Pas?
Josef Blow
Reply to @Mario Doucet: nearly impossible ??? That is hard to process .... i suppose if people are a little enthusiastic about life they can learn and retain pretty much anything.
Josef Blow
Reply to @Shawn McShane: coulda, woulda, mighta, shoulda ...
Josef Blow
Reply to @daryl doucette: does civility count as a subject in school? I’m sure there are people who could benefit from a little training on that subject. I wonder about natural aptitude though and how the lack thereof could prove to be a real hindrance.
Josef Blow
Reply to @David R. Amos: minds are unfortunately a necessity that isn’t available to all. Lol
David R. Amos
Reply to @Josef Blow: I should ask when are you slated to get a mind with a conscience or at least some semblance of ethics? FYI I studied French and Latin in my High School years in Fat Fred City before the turncoat Minister Cardy and quite likely you were born. Furthermore some of my classmates are seated Judges now and hate it when we cross paths. Perhaps folks who truly care about democracy and justice should study the Federal Court File No T-1557-15 to understand why French has become irrelevant in Canada. Methinks if the British is Queen going to bar a man from public properties and public Inquires she should do it in two official languages just like she did once again with me within the latest NB Power Rate hearings which began last night in Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
P.S. Anyone can check out the EUB files in the 357, 375 and 430 Matters from the Internent but in you must go to Federal court to read my files in the docket if you do not trust the one I present on the Internet
P.S. Anyone can check out the EUB files in the 357, 375 and 430 Matters from the Internent but in you must go to Federal court to read my files in the docket if you do not trust the one I present on the Internet
Daryl Doucette
Reply to @Josef Blow: Funny how people get irate when some one else disagrees with their take on things.
French immersion entry point remains at Grade 1 — for now
Education Minister plans summit on entire education system in October, but NBTA says that's too late
CBC News
Dominic Cardy announces French immersion entry point will remain at Grade 1
Here is what else Dominic Cardy had to say during the French immersion announcement. 0:44
Education Minister Dominic Cardy says the New Brunswick government will keep the French immersion entry point at Grade 1 for at least a year.Cardy said public consultations revealed challenges with the program go beyond the entry point.
"The current system is failing to graduate bilingual students," Cardy said in a statement Thursday. "A change in the entry point at this time would only address one small part of a larger challenge facing our education system."
However, in the legislature later in the day, the Progressive Conservatives voted down a proposal that would have made the Grade 1 entry point more permanent.
According to Policy 309 of the Department of Education, the goal is to get students to an "advanced" level on the provincial second-language proficiency scale. The scale has nine levels, with advanced being the third highest.
The most recent data available from the province show only 10 per cent of students who entered early immersion in 2005 achieved the goal of advanced proficiency by the end of Grade 12 in 2017.
"Our goal is to be top ten in the Program for International Student Assessment rankings in reading, math and science," Cardy said. The rankings, a program of the OECD, are released after an exam taken every three years by 15-year-old students around the world.
Whole system under review
Cardy also announced a broader education review, which includes a plan to improve French second-language programming.
The provincial government will hold a summit Oct. 16 to 18 to get more input and ideas on how to improve the entire education system. The department is preparing a paper outlining where the education system currently stands and the goals for the future, which will be released next month, Cardy said.
This will be the first time the francophone and anglophone sectors will be brought together to talk about the education system in a comprehensive way, Cardy said.
"We need to hear from both sectors and we need to have both sectors talking more with each other."
The public will be invited to give input on all aspects of the system, including classroom composition, student engagement and the preparedness of graduating students.
"This is a societal project around education, and that means that parents have a responsibility to send their kids to school, they have to stay in school and once they are there, the responsibility on the government side we give them the world-class education."
Classroom composition, teacher shortages
George Daley, president of the New Brunswick Teachers' Association, said he's happy to hear the entry point isn't being changed this year.
"I think there will be some relief from a good deal of our membership knowing that we've got a bit of stability from the last two years."
Still, Daley said he thinks problems in education, including class composition and violence in the classroom, are too pressing to wait until the summit.
"The forum that they are talking about is a good idea, but I don't particularly want to wait until October to deal with these issues," Daley said.
"Whether it's French immersion or regular English classrooms, if we don't have effective class composition and appropriate learning environment no learning is going to go on in those rooms."
He said there were teaching positions this year that had to be filled by contracted local permit teachers, not enough certified teachers were available.
Local permit teachers are teachers who do not hold a Bachelor of Education degree but have a minimum of two years of post secondary education.
That was a first in his career, Daley said. Supply-teaching lists across the province also had to be opened up to local permit teachers.
Cardy said that recruiting more teachers is something the province is looking at, but the key issue is that there aren't enough students pursuing education degrees in the province.
He suggested the recruiting strategy will be part of a larger discussion around immigration and attracting teachers from outside the province.
With files from Shane Fowler and Shift