---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 13:05:47 -0400
Subject: Attn Marie Henein Re Your new client Admiral Mark Norman
I just called you again in order to remind you of my old emails and that
I am still alive and paying attention
To: Jim.Hounslow@humanrights.ca, info@jian.ca, ht.lacroix@cbc.ca,
dholland@torstar.ca, mhenein@hhllp.ca, jrubin@rubinthomlinson.com,
q@cbc.ca, JCruickshank@thestar.ca, jrebick@gmail.com,
jrebick@politics.ryerson.ca, leader@greenparty.ca,
Jonathan.Vance@forces.gc.ca, Mason.Stalker@forces.gc.ca,
Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca, Greta.Bossenmaier@cse-cst.gc. ca,
president@whitehouse.gov
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, mrcoutts@yahoo.com,
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From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 11:40:55 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I wonder if Doug Ford and Marie Henein or
their old buddies such Daniel Dale remember these emails?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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From: "Dale, Daniel"<ddale@thestar.ca>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 11:40:58 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I wonder if Doug Ford and Marie Henein or
their old buddies such Daniel Dale remember these emails?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
I'm away until May 15.
- Daniel
https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 47 others
Methinks I know why Marie Henein ain't smiling and so does Trudeau N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/05/methinks-i-know-why-marie-henein-aint.html
#nbpoli#cdnpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-breach-trust-charge-dropped-1.5127463
5678 Comments
Mike Kennedy
PMO needs to be investigated again.
Jennifer McIsaac
Reply to @mike kennedy:
Oh, not doing something is an offense now is it?
Anne Bérubé
David R. Amos
David R. Amos
Reply to @Archie Brown: "the lawyers, public service hours dedicated to this mess has cost taxpayers over a million"
Methinks you underestimate how much our politicians and bureaucrats love to spend our tax funds It appears to me that 400 grand was not enough for the lawyers on one side of a non event at the circus N'esy Pas?
"Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan announced today the federal government would be paying Norman's legal fees. A private crowdsourcing initiative already has raised more than $400,000 for Norman's defence.
The prosecution said Norman's actions were inappropriate and secretive, but that doesn't mean a crime was committed.
"Inappropriate does not mean criminal," said Barbara Mercier, the lead prosecutor."
Ray Luker
Once again the Liberals have repeatedly shown that they are barely fit to rule a banana republic, much less a G7 nation like Canada.
Usually you have to go to South American tin-pot dictatorships like Venezuela to find such a strong stench of corruption, but one-term Trudy’s eco-Marxist regime is already riff with it and it’s been a cool spring, by fall their stench will be unbearable.
Canada deserve better than this..
David R. Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @david mccaig: "No he's got a political agenda against our government."
Methinks Trudeau drew first blood not Norman N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-breach-trust-1.4612144
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau may have complicated the work of the Crown by saying publicly that he expected Norman's case to go to trial"
David R. Amos
Reply to @David R. Amos: WOW Methinks CBC just made a a HUGE Faux Pas N'esy Pas?
Richard Dekkar
Thank you Vice Admiral Norman for your service and dedication. Canadians are behind you and we know what to do this October to make sure this can’t happen again.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Richard Dekkar: Yea Right Methinks anyone can Google two names David Amos Admiral Norman N'esy Pas?
Daryll Mcbain
Time for the RCMP to investigate the PMO.
David Mccaig
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain:
Bet the CBC managementgiggled when they were posting this article , that it would be to cons like light to moths.
Daryll Mcbain
Reply to @david mccaig: don’t care for our Justice system independence I see.
Lawrence Farrel
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain: It's LONG PAST time.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Lawrence Farrell: I concur
Methinks anyone can Google Federal Court File No T-1557-15 and scroll down to statement number 83 to see how Admiral Norman got off the hook N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain: "don’t care for our Justice system independence I see."
Methinks everybody knows that is a myth N'esy Pas?
Bill Edward Goate
Translation: The prosecutors have been told that the Liberal Party can't afford any more embarrassments or unwelcome scrutiny.
Adam Gajewski
Richard Dekkar
Now Canadians need to know what was in those documents that was so damaging that Trudeau had to interfere and stop a prosecution to save his skin.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Richard Dekkar: "Now Canadians need to know what was in those documents"
Methinks you should check my documents and emails that I have been publishing on the Internet for years while I ran for public office six times thus far N'esy Pas?
Don Cameron
Ha!
This was predictable, once the slea ze about the Trudeau PMO started to come out.
Brison and Leslie not running again in the upcoming election because of this scandal.
I hope there is a whistle blower out there with the courage to release documents. Canadians deserve to know the truth.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Don Cameron: "I hope there is a whistle blower out there with the courage to release documents. Canadians deserve to know the truth."
Please read Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Statement 83 in particular ASAP
David R. Amos
Jerry MaGuire
"It's a beautiful day, thank you."
Canadians will be saying that on Oct 20th, the day after this government is defeated.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Jerry MaGuire: Methinks all the political animals know that climate change or not its gonna be a long hot summer before the fat lady sings on Oct 20th N'esy Pas?
Elaine Hancock
Another day, another Trudeau mess.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Elaine Hancock: "I guess. With the help of Admiral Norman the navy got a supply ship on time and on budget, Horrors! "
Well put
David R. Amos
Reply to @drew allen: No doubt
Daryll Mcbain
If Harper did this the Liberals would be rioting in the streets breaking stuff.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain: "If Harper did this the Liberals would be rioting in the streets breaking stuff."
Kinda like they did with the Duffy matter right?
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman said today he's pleased to be "exonerated of any wrongdoing" but is disappointed by the "alarming and protracted bias" in his breach-of-trust case.
During a news conference in Ottawa following the announcement that the Public Prosecution Service of Canada would be staying a single breach-of-trust charge against him, Norman said he has no regrets about his conduct.
"I am confident that at all times I acted with integrity, I acted ethically and I acted in the best interests of the Royal Canadian Navy, the Canadian Forces and, ultimately, the people of Canada," he said.
Norman had been accused of leaking cabinet secrets in relation to a $668-million shipbuilding deal to lease a supply vessel. He was accused of leaking to both an executive at the Davie Shipyard in Levis, Que., which leased a supply ship to the navy, and to a CBC journalist.
Norman said he is now looking forward to getting back to work, but is disappointed it took this long.
"The alarming and protracted bias of perceived guilt across the senior levels of government has been quite damaging and the emotional and financial impacts of the entire ordeal have taken a toll," he said.
Norman said he has an "important story" to tell Canadians, which he will be sharing in the coming days.
The Crown announced earlier today that it had stayed the charge, adding that new information that had come to light through Norman's defence team convinced the prosecution that there was no longer a reasonable chance of conviction.
Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan announced today the federal government would be paying Norman's legal fees. A private crowdsourcing initiative already has raised more than $400,000 for Norman's defence.
The prosecution said Norman's actions were inappropriate and secretive, but that doesn't mean a crime was committed.
"Inappropriate does not mean criminal," said Barbara Mercier, the lead prosecutor.
A breach-of-trust charge can be laid against an appointed or elected official discharging a public duty.
To convict, the Crown must prove the accused person's conduct represented a "serious and marked" departure from the standards expected in that position, and that the accused acted outside the public interest towards a dishonest, partial, corrupt or oppressive purpose.
Watch: How the Vice-Admiral Mark Norman story unfolded this morning
Speaking to reporters after the court proceeding, Mercier declined to describe the new information that convinced the prosecution to abandon the case.
"This was a very complex case ... I cannot get into the specifics of that information. The defence counsel gave it to us under certain conditions for our purposes only," she said.
"But I will say that, absorbing it, comparing it to investigation materials, we came to that conclusion, that there's no probable prospect of conviction."
Mercier insisted that there was no political interference in the case.
"The Department of Public Prosecutions decided to lay the charge, and they decided today, we decided alone, without political interference whatsoever, that we couldn't make the charge," she said.
Asked when he intends to return to work as he left the courthouse, Norman replied, "As soon as I possibly can."
His lawyer Marie Henein issued a statement on his behalf, calling the Crown's decision "bittersweet" because the personal cost to Norman and his family from the two-year legal battle can never be repaid.
"It has been difficult and demoralizing," the statement reads. "We have resilient institutions in this country and eventually those institutions got to the right result. But let's not forget, that only came after a long and hard fight and at great personal cost to Vice-Admiral Norman."
Watch: Vice-Admiral Mark Norman's full press conference with lawyer Marie Henein
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 13:05:47 -0400
Subject: Attn Marie Henein Re Your new client Admiral Mark Norman
I just called you again in order to remind you of my old emails and that
I am still alive and paying attention
To: Jim.Hounslow@humanrights.ca, info@jian.ca, ht.lacroix@cbc.ca,
dholland@torstar.ca, mhenein@hhllp.ca, jrubin@rubinthomlinson.com,
q@cbc.ca, JCruickshank@thestar.ca, jrebick@gmail.com,
jrebick@politics.ryerson.ca, leader@greenparty.ca,
Jonathan.Vance@forces.gc.ca, Mason.Stalker@forces.gc.ca,
Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca, Greta.Bossenmaier@cse-cst.gc.
president@whitehouse.gov
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, mrcoutts@yahoo.com,
---------- Original message ----------
From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 12:04:38 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks its obvious why the Crown would
drop the charges after Mark Norman's lawyers hit Trudeau and his buddy
Butts with subpoenas N'esy Pas/
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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From: MASON.STALKER@forces.gc.ca
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 12:04:41 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks its obvious why the Crown would
drop the charges after Mark Norman's lawyers hit Trudeau and his buddy
Butts with subpoenas N'esy Pas/
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
Good day,
Please note that I do not have regular access to DWAN and your email
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 08:04:34 -0400
Subject: Methinks its obvious why the Crown would drop the charges after Mark Norman's
From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 12:04:38 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks its obvious why the Crown would
drop the charges after Mark Norman's lawyers hit Trudeau and his buddy
Butts with subpoenas N'esy Pas/
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly valued.
You can be assured that all emails and letters are carefully read,
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nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations.
Nous tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.
Dans certains cas, nous transmettrons votre message au ministère
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From: MASON.STALKER@forces.gc.ca
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 12:04:41 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks its obvious why the Crown would
drop the charges after Mark Norman's lawyers hit Trudeau and his buddy
Butts with subpoenas N'esy Pas/
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
Good day,
Please note that I do not have regular access to DWAN and your email
has not been forwarded.
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 08:04:34 -0400
Subject: Methinks its obvious why the Crown would drop the charges after Mark Norman's
lawyers hit Trudeau and his buddy Butts with subpoenas N'esy Pas/
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To: premier@ontario.ca, ddale@thestar.ca, news@newstalk1010.com,
q@cbc.ca, JCruickshank@thestar.ca, jrebick@gmail.com, jrebick@politics.ryerson.ca, leader@greenparty.ca, Jonathan.Vance@forces.gc.ca, Mason.Stalker@forces.gc.ca, Gilles.Moreau@forces.gc.ca, Greta.Bossenmaier@cse-cst.gc. ca,
sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada. ca, darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca, Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca,
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Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail. com, David.Lametti@parl.gc.ca,
andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, andrew.leslie@parl.gc.ca, kdonovan@thestar.ca
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http://davidraymondamos3. blogspot.com/2019/02/mark- normans-defence-team-hits- trudeau.html
Friday, 22 February 2019
Mark Norman's defence team hits Trudeau, Butts with subpoenas
https://www.cbc.ca/news/ politics/mark-norman-charges- to-be-dropped-1.5127220
Prosecutors to drop criminal case of breach of trust against
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman
Accused of leaking cabinet secrets in relation to a $700-million
shipbuilding deal
Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: May 07, 2019 9:25 PM ET
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman was accused of leaking cabinet secrets in
relation to a $700-million shipbuilding deal to lease a supply vessel.
(Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)
Federal prosecutors are expected to abandon their criminal prosecution
of the military's former second-in-command, Vice-Admiral Mark Norman,
CBC News has confirmed.
The Public Prosecution Service of Canada plans to withdraw the single
breach of trust charge that was laid last year against the former vice
chief of the defence staff, but has yet to confirm the reasons why,
sources said late Tuesday.
Norman, who was also the former commander of the navy, was accused of
leaking cabinet secrets in relation to a $668-million shipbuilding
deal to lease a supply vessel.
The National Post first reported that the Crown would throw in the towel.
It came after the Public Prosecution Service of Canada took the
unusual step, Tuesday evening, of sending out a notice to the media
advising them that they "may wish to attend" court on Wednesday at 10
a.m.
The high-profile, politically charged case has seen the Liberal
government face allegations of political interference from both the
Opposition Conservatives and Norman's defence team, including Toronto
lawyer Marie Henein.
LISTEN
How the Mark Norman trial could be 'a huge political circus'
FRONT BURNER
How the Mark Norman trial could be 'a huge political circus'
The defence has claimed, in both arguments and court filings, that the
Prime Minister's Office and the Privy Council Office have attempted to
orchestrate the prosecution of the case. They also have alleged that
former Treasury Board president Scott Brison tried to kill the lease
deal on behalf of a rival shipyard.
The Liberal government, the public prosecution service and Brison have
all denied the accusations, which were made in court and in court
filings.
The tipping point may have come last week, however, when it was
revealed that former parliamentary secretary — and soon-to-be former
Liberal MP — Andrew Leslie had offered to testify for the defence.
Leslie, a former lieutenant-general, has intimate knowledge of the
military procurement system and could have provided insight into the
behind-the-scenes manoeuvring within the Liberal government as the
case against Norman unfolded.
Fight for documents
The case has been a routine feature of question period in the House of
Commons with the Conservatives hammering the Liberals over the slow
pace of handing over federal government documents to the defence and
for the refusal of officials to cover Norman's legal costs.
His lawyers have been fighting for access to federal documents for
months. Hundreds of those documents have been released, but many key
records were redacted.
The federal government has claimed the documents were blacked out to
protect solicitor-client privilege and because they contain cabinet
secrets. The defence team challenged those claims, arguing that
Norman's prosecution is politically motivated.
The battle over documents focuses on up to 36 memos, analysis reports
and emails involving the Privy Council Office and the Prime Minister's
Office.
Uncertain future for Norman
The allegations against Norman first surfaced in January 2017, when
his suburban home was raided by the RCMP and he was suspended from his
job as vice chief of the defence staff.
It took the RCMP and the Crown more than a year to formally charge him
with a single count of breach of trust, alleging he leaked cabinet
secrets to both an executive at the Davie Shipyard, in Levis, Que.,
which leased a supply ship to the navy, and to a CBC journalist.
The Crown alleged there were 12 instances where details of what
federal ministers were saying and thinking about the project were
illegally revealed. The vast majority of those alleged incidents
involved the negotiation period under the former Conservative
government.
Listen
How the Mark Norman trial could be 'a huge political circus'
Mark Norman's defence points to SNC-Lavalin testimony in bid to
unlock secret documents
The prosecution also claimed that Norman leaked the results of a
November 2015 cabinet subcommittee meeting under the Liberals, when,
newly elected at the time, they decided to put the supply ship lease
deal on hold for further study.
The government eventually reversed its decision and allowed the deal
to proceed after a public backlash because of the leak.
It is unclear what Norman's future may be after Wednesday's court proceeding.
A veteran of three decades and eligible to retire, he was moved out of
the vice chief of defence staff post, but has remained in uniform in a
temporary duty post throughout the legal proceedings
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca,Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, paul@paulfromm.com, David.Akin@globalnews.ca, mayor@mississauga.ca
http://davidraymondamos3.
Friday, 22 February 2019
Mark Norman's defence team hits Trudeau, Butts with subpoenas
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Prosecutors to drop criminal case of breach of trust against
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman
Accused of leaking cabinet secrets in relation to a $700-million
shipbuilding deal
Murray Brewster · CBC News · Posted: May 07, 2019 9:25 PM ET
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman was accused of leaking cabinet secrets in
relation to a $700-million shipbuilding deal to lease a supply vessel.
(Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)
Federal prosecutors are expected to abandon their criminal prosecution
of the military's former second-in-command, Vice-Admiral Mark Norman,
CBC News has confirmed.
The Public Prosecution Service of Canada plans to withdraw the single
breach of trust charge that was laid last year against the former vice
chief of the defence staff, but has yet to confirm the reasons why,
sources said late Tuesday.
Norman, who was also the former commander of the navy, was accused of
leaking cabinet secrets in relation to a $668-million shipbuilding
deal to lease a supply vessel.
The National Post first reported that the Crown would throw in the towel.
It came after the Public Prosecution Service of Canada took the
unusual step, Tuesday evening, of sending out a notice to the media
advising them that they "may wish to attend" court on Wednesday at 10
a.m.
The high-profile, politically charged case has seen the Liberal
government face allegations of political interference from both the
Opposition Conservatives and Norman's defence team, including Toronto
lawyer Marie Henein.
LISTEN
How the Mark Norman trial could be 'a huge political circus'
FRONT BURNER
How the Mark Norman trial could be 'a huge political circus'
The defence has claimed, in both arguments and court filings, that the
Prime Minister's Office and the Privy Council Office have attempted to
orchestrate the prosecution of the case. They also have alleged that
former Treasury Board president Scott Brison tried to kill the lease
deal on behalf of a rival shipyard.
The Liberal government, the public prosecution service and Brison have
all denied the accusations, which were made in court and in court
filings.
The tipping point may have come last week, however, when it was
revealed that former parliamentary secretary — and soon-to-be former
Liberal MP — Andrew Leslie had offered to testify for the defence.
Leslie, a former lieutenant-general, has intimate knowledge of the
military procurement system and could have provided insight into the
behind-the-scenes manoeuvring within the Liberal government as the
case against Norman unfolded.
Fight for documents
The case has been a routine feature of question period in the House of
Commons with the Conservatives hammering the Liberals over the slow
pace of handing over federal government documents to the defence and
for the refusal of officials to cover Norman's legal costs.
His lawyers have been fighting for access to federal documents for
months. Hundreds of those documents have been released, but many key
records were redacted.
The federal government has claimed the documents were blacked out to
protect solicitor-client privilege and because they contain cabinet
secrets. The defence team challenged those claims, arguing that
Norman's prosecution is politically motivated.
The battle over documents focuses on up to 36 memos, analysis reports
and emails involving the Privy Council Office and the Prime Minister's
Office.
Uncertain future for Norman
The allegations against Norman first surfaced in January 2017, when
his suburban home was raided by the RCMP and he was suspended from his
job as vice chief of the defence staff.
It took the RCMP and the Crown more than a year to formally charge him
with a single count of breach of trust, alleging he leaked cabinet
secrets to both an executive at the Davie Shipyard, in Levis, Que.,
which leased a supply ship to the navy, and to a CBC journalist.
The Crown alleged there were 12 instances where details of what
federal ministers were saying and thinking about the project were
illegally revealed. The vast majority of those alleged incidents
involved the negotiation period under the former Conservative
government.
Listen
How the Mark Norman trial could be 'a huge political circus'
Mark Norman's defence points to SNC-Lavalin testimony in bid to
unlock secret documents
The prosecution also claimed that Norman leaked the results of a
November 2015 cabinet subcommittee meeting under the Liberals, when,
newly elected at the time, they decided to put the supply ship lease
deal on hold for further study.
The government eventually reversed its decision and allowed the deal
to proceed after a public backlash because of the leak.
It is unclear what Norman's future may be after Wednesday's court proceeding.
A veteran of three decades and eligible to retire, he was moved out of
the vice chief of defence staff post, but has remained in uniform in a
temporary duty post throughout the legal proceedings
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
---------- Original message ----------
From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 11:40:55 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I wonder if Doug Ford and Marie Henein or
their old buddies such Daniel Dale remember these emails?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly valued.
You can be assured that all emails and letters are carefully read,
reviewed and taken into consideration.
There may be occasions when, given the issues you have raised and the
need to address them effectively, we will forward a copy of your
correspondence to the appropriate government official. Accordingly, a
response may take several business days.
Thanks again for your email.
______
Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations.
Nous tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.
Dans certains cas, nous transmettrons votre message au ministère
responsable afin que les questions soulevées puissent être traitées de
la manière la plus efficace possible. En conséquence, plusieurs jours
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From: "Dale, Daniel"<ddale@thestar.ca>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 11:40:58 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: I wonder if Doug Ford and Marie Henein or
their old buddies such Daniel Dale remember these emails?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
I'm away until May 15.
- Daniel
https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@Kathryn98967631 and 47 others
Methinks I know why Marie Henein ain't smiling and so does Trudeau N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/05/methinks-i-know-why-marie-henein-aint.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-breach-trust-charge-dropped-1.5127463
'I acted with integrity': Mark Norman claims exoneration after Crown stays breach-of-trust
5678 Comments
Mike Kennedy
PMO needs to be investigated again.
Jennifer McIsaac
Reply to @mike kennedy:
Oh, not doing something is an offense now is it?
Anne Bérubé
David R. Amos
Reply to @mike kennedy: Methinks I know why Marie Henein ain't smiling and so does Trudeau N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Archie Brown: "the lawyers, public service hours dedicated to this mess has cost taxpayers over a million"
Methinks you underestimate how much our politicians and bureaucrats love to spend our tax funds It appears to me that 400 grand was not enough for the lawyers on one side of a non event at the circus N'esy Pas?
"Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan announced today the federal government would be paying Norman's legal fees. A private crowdsourcing initiative already has raised more than $400,000 for Norman's defence.
The prosecution said Norman's actions were inappropriate and secretive, but that doesn't mean a crime was committed.
"Inappropriate does not mean criminal," said Barbara Mercier, the lead prosecutor."
Ray Luker
Once again the Liberals have repeatedly shown that they are barely fit to rule a banana republic, much less a G7 nation like Canada.
Usually you have to go to South American tin-pot dictatorships like Venezuela to find such a strong stench of corruption, but one-term Trudy’s eco-Marxist regime is already riff with it and it’s been a cool spring, by fall their stench will be unbearable.
Canada deserve better than this..
David Mccaig
Reply to @Ray Luker:
'I acted with integrity': Mark Norman claims exoneration after Crown stays breach-of-trust charge.
No he's got a political agenda against our government.
'I acted with integrity': Mark Norman claims exoneration after Crown stays breach-of-trust charge.
No he's got a political agenda against our government.
David Mccaig
Reply to @Ray Luker:
Nothing like a story involving the military to bring out all these right wing types.
Nothing like a story involving the military to bring out all these right wing types.
David R. Amos
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Reply to @david mccaig: "No he's got a political agenda against our government."
Methinks Trudeau drew first blood not Norman N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-norman-breach-trust-1.4612144
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau may have complicated the work of the Crown by saying publicly that he expected Norman's case to go to trial"
David R. Amos
Reply to @David R. Amos: WOW Methinks CBC just made a a HUGE Faux Pas N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @david mccaig: "Nothing like a story involving the military to bring out all these right wing types. "
Methinks you are no such thing yet you have a lot to say N'esy Pas?
Methinks you are no such thing yet you have a lot to say N'esy Pas?
Richard Dekkar
Thank you Vice Admiral Norman for your service and dedication. Canadians are behind you and we know what to do this October to make sure this can’t happen again.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Richard Dekkar: Yea Right Methinks anyone can Google two names David Amos Admiral Norman N'esy Pas?
Daryll Mcbain
Time for the RCMP to investigate the PMO.
David Mccaig
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain:
Bet the CBC managementgiggled when they were posting this article , that it would be to cons like light to moths.
Daryll Mcbain
Reply to @david mccaig: don’t care for our Justice system independence I see.
Lawrence Farrel
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain: It's LONG PAST time.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Lawrence Farrell: I concur
Methinks anyone can Google Federal Court File No T-1557-15 and scroll down to statement number 83 to see how Admiral Norman got off the hook N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain: "don’t care for our Justice system independence I see."
Methinks everybody knows that is a myth N'esy Pas?
Bill Edward Goate
Translation: The prosecutors have been told that the Liberal Party can't afford any more embarrassments or unwelcome scrutiny.
Adam Gajewski
Reply to @Bill Edward Goate:
The reasons for a couple of sudden resignations in the treasury department will not be aired in the court. We live in hope there was no political interference to drop the case.
The reasons for a couple of sudden resignations in the treasury department will not be aired in the court. We live in hope there was no political interference to drop the case.
David Mccaig
Reply to @Bill Edward Goate:
"prosecutors have been told that the Liberal Party can't afford any more embarrassments or unwelcome scrutiny."
So now the cons are accusing the prosecutors of obstructing the law.
"prosecutors have been told that the Liberal Party can't afford any more embarrassments or unwelcome scrutiny."
So now the cons are accusing the prosecutors of obstructing the law.
Frank Goodwood
Reply to @david mccaig:
David, you do realize that this the CBC and that it's audience is mostly Liberals right? The comments are overwhelming negative when it comes to JT. What does that tell you?
David, you do realize that this the CBC and that it's audience is mostly Liberals right? The comments are overwhelming negative when it comes to JT. What does that tell you?
David Mccaig
Reply to @Frank Goodwood:
Canada is comprised mostly of people whose political ideolgy live on the left side, despite valiant attempts by tbe corporate media owned by billionaires trying the best to bamboozle clear thinking Canadians into voting for billionaires best interests and voting for cons and against their own best interests.
Canada is comprised mostly of people whose political ideolgy live on the left side, despite valiant attempts by tbe corporate media owned by billionaires trying the best to bamboozle clear thinking Canadians into voting for billionaires best interests and voting for cons and against their own best interests.
Jim Lau
Reply to @david mccaig: Billionaires, Corporations, and Corporate media are the ones who have the likes of you bamboozled to support the left agenda and thumb your nose at ethics, rule of law, and truth. But you don't get it, that is clear
Bill Laplante
Reply to @Jim Lau: You must be talking about Soros and the "Tide foundation" and others bankrolled like Leadnow
David Mccaig
Reply to @Bill Edward Goate:
What is it about the loyalty of cons that so attracts Vlad Putin to want to support these right wingers.
What is it about the loyalty of cons that so attracts Vlad Putin to want to support these right wingers.
David Mccaig
Reply to @Bill Edward Goate:
Funny i dont see Vad Putin helping the liberals or the US democrats , nope just cons.
Funny i dont see Vad Putin helping the liberals or the US democrats , nope just cons.
David Mccaig
Reply to @Bill Edward Goate:
You'd think any party that believes in freedom and democracy and wouldnt be hiding their involvement with Russian mafia, but here we have day after day of right wingers praising Putin.
You'd think any party that believes in freedom and democracy and wouldnt be hiding their involvement with Russian mafia, but here we have day after day of right wingers praising Putin.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Bill Edward Goate: BINGO
David R. Amos
Reply to @Adam Gajewski: Welcome to the Circus
David R. Amos
Reply to @Frank Goodwood: Methinks Mccaig hasn't figured out who owns CBC N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Bill Laplante: "You must be talking about Soros"
Of that I have no doubt Methinks he works for him N'esy Pas?
Of that I have no doubt Methinks he works for him N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @david mccaig: "here we have day after day of right wingers praising Putin."
Methinks everybody has figured out your agenda by now N'esy Pas?
Methinks everybody has figured out your agenda by now N'esy Pas?
Richard Dekkar
Now Canadians need to know what was in those documents that was so damaging that Trudeau had to interfere and stop a prosecution to save his skin.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Richard Dekkar: "Now Canadians need to know what was in those documents"
Methinks you should check my documents and emails that I have been publishing on the Internet for years while I ran for public office six times thus far N'esy Pas?
Don Cameron
Ha!
This was predictable, once the slea ze about the Trudeau PMO started to come out.
Brison and Leslie not running again in the upcoming election because of this scandal.
I hope there is a whistle blower out there with the courage to release documents. Canadians deserve to know the truth.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Don Cameron: "I hope there is a whistle blower out there with the courage to release documents. Canadians deserve to know the truth."
Please read Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Statement 83 in particular ASAP
David R. Amos
Reply to @Don Cameron: Please read this as well
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Jerry MaGuire
"It's a beautiful day, thank you."
Canadians will be saying that on Oct 20th, the day after this government is defeated.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Jerry MaGuire: Methinks all the political animals know that climate change or not its gonna be a long hot summer before the fat lady sings on Oct 20th N'esy Pas?
Elaine Hancock
Another day, another Trudeau mess.
Drew Allen
Reply to @Elaine Hancock:
Harpers fault? That will be the next excuse.
Harpers fault? That will be the next excuse.
Elaine Hancock
Reply to @drew allen: I guess. With the help of Admiral Norman the navy got a supply ship on time and on budget, Horrors!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Elaine Hancock: "I guess. With the help of Admiral Norman the navy got a supply ship on time and on budget, Horrors! "
Well put
David R. Amos
Reply to @drew allen: No doubt
Daryll Mcbain
If Harper did this the Liberals would be rioting in the streets breaking stuff.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain: "If Harper did this the Liberals would be rioting in the streets breaking stuff."
Kinda like they did with the Duffy matter right?
'I acted with integrity': Mark Norman claims exoneration after Crown stays breach-of-trust charge
Crown says there is no longer a reasonable prospect of conviction against the military's former 2nd in command
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman said today he's pleased to be "exonerated of any wrongdoing" but is disappointed by the "alarming and protracted bias" in his breach-of-trust case.
During a news conference in Ottawa following the announcement that the Public Prosecution Service of Canada would be staying a single breach-of-trust charge against him, Norman said he has no regrets about his conduct.
"I am confident that at all times I acted with integrity, I acted ethically and I acted in the best interests of the Royal Canadian Navy, the Canadian Forces and, ultimately, the people of Canada," he said.
Norman had been accused of leaking cabinet secrets in relation to a $668-million shipbuilding deal to lease a supply vessel. He was accused of leaking to both an executive at the Davie Shipyard in Levis, Que., which leased a supply ship to the navy, and to a CBC journalist.
Norman said he is now looking forward to getting back to work, but is disappointed it took this long.
"The alarming and protracted bias of perceived guilt across the senior levels of government has been quite damaging and the emotional and financial impacts of the entire ordeal have taken a toll," he said.
Norman said he has an "important story" to tell Canadians, which he will be sharing in the coming days.
The Crown announced earlier today that it had stayed the charge, adding that new information that had come to light through Norman's defence team convinced the prosecution that there was no longer a reasonable chance of conviction.
Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan announced today the federal government would be paying Norman's legal fees. A private crowdsourcing initiative already has raised more than $400,000 for Norman's defence.
The prosecution said Norman's actions were inappropriate and secretive, but that doesn't mean a crime was committed.
"Inappropriate does not mean criminal," said Barbara Mercier, the lead prosecutor.
A breach-of-trust charge can be laid against an appointed or elected official discharging a public duty.
To convict, the Crown must prove the accused person's conduct represented a "serious and marked" departure from the standards expected in that position, and that the accused acted outside the public interest towards a dishonest, partial, corrupt or oppressive purpose.
Watch: How the Vice-Admiral Mark Norman story unfolded this morning
CBC News
How the Norman trial unfolded Wednesday morning
"This was a very complex case ... I cannot get into the specifics of that information. The defence counsel gave it to us under certain conditions for our purposes only," she said.
"But I will say that, absorbing it, comparing it to investigation materials, we came to that conclusion, that there's no probable prospect of conviction."
Mercier insisted that there was no political interference in the case.
"The Department of Public Prosecutions decided to lay the charge, and they decided today, we decided alone, without political interference whatsoever, that we couldn't make the charge," she said.
Asked when he intends to return to work as he left the courthouse, Norman replied, "As soon as I possibly can."
'Bittersweet' outcome
His lawyer Marie Henein issued a statement on his behalf, calling the Crown's decision "bittersweet" because the personal cost to Norman and his family from the two-year legal battle can never be repaid.
"It has been difficult and demoralizing," the statement reads. "We have resilient institutions in this country and eventually those institutions got to the right result. But let's not forget, that only came after a long and hard fight and at great personal cost to Vice-Admiral Norman."
Watch: Vice-Admiral Mark Norman's full press conference with lawyer Marie Henein
CBC News
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman spoke to reporters after charge dropped
At the news conference, Henein said the outcome of Norman's case should give Canadians confidence that their justice system is "truly unassailable" and that prosecutors act independently.
"No person in this country should ever walk into a courtroom and think they are fighting their elected government or any sort of political factors at all," she said.
The high-profile, politically charged case saw the Liberal government face allegations of political interference from both the Opposition Conservatives and Norman's defence team.
The defence had claimed, in both arguments and court filings, that the Prime Minister's Office and the Privy Council Office had attempted to orchestrate the prosecution of the case.
The defence also alleged that former Treasury Board president Scott Brison tried to kill the lease deal with the Davie shipyard in Levis, Que. on behalf of rival Irving Shipbuilding in his home province of Nova Scotia.
The Liberal government, the public prosecution service and Brison have all denied the accusations, which were made in court and in court filings.
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh called for an independent investigation of how the case was handled.
"What we've seen in this case is some deep concerns around a cosy relationship between the Liberal government and the Irving companies. We've heard concerns around Scott Brison's implication and involvement, and we also heard some allegations of direct political interference of the Prime Minister's Office in the handling of this case," he said.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau declined to comment on the case on his way into a Liberal caucus meeting today.
"The process involved in a public prosecution like this is entirely independent of my office," he said.
"It's an independent process and we have confidence in the work done by the director of public prosecutions."
At Norman's pre-trial hearings, his defence team accused the government of blocking access to documents. Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer accused Trudeau today of trying to destroy Norman's reputation and career because the vice-admiral "stood up to him."
"We still have lots of questions about why the government was so afraid of the truth coming to light, why they withheld documents, why they refused to hand over information that Mark Norman and his lawyer were asking for to help clear his name and shed light on this," he said.
Director of Public Prosecutions Kathleen Roussel issued a statement that said the Crown concluded it could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Norman's conduct in this case amounted to a "serious and marked departure from the standards expected of a person in his position of trust." That decision was based on the evidence, the law and the "principles regarding reasonable prospect of conviction," she said.
"No other factors were considered in this decision, nor was there any contact or influence from outside the PPSC, including political influence in either the initial decision to prosecute Mr. Norman or in the decision to stay the charge today," Roussel said.
Andrew Leslie, a retired lieutenant-general who was elected in 2015, announced May 1 he was stepping away from politics after one term as a Liberal MP. It was reported last week that Leslie would be testifying for Norman's defence.
When Norman arrived at the Ottawa courthouse Wednesday morning, Leslie was there to greet him.
CBC News caught up with Chantier Davie CEO Spencer Fraser outside the courtroom Wednesday. He said there will be an opportunity to speak more about the case as it "gets more explored."
"Today, I want to talk about the fact that justice has been served and Mark Norman is innocent, as we've always said he is," he said.
One other person has been charged in relation to the alleged leak of cabinet information. Matthew Matchett, a federal procurement official who was named in documents related to Norman's defence, was charged with a single count of breach of trust in February. He pleaded not guilty at a hearing in March and elected to stand trial by judge and jury.
The Crown's decision to abandon the case spares the Liberal government potential embarrassment at a critical time. Norman's trial was to begin in August, just weeks before the federal election campaign is set to begin.
"No person in this country should ever walk into a courtroom and think they are fighting their elected government or any sort of political factors at all," she said.
The high-profile, politically charged case saw the Liberal government face allegations of political interference from both the Opposition Conservatives and Norman's defence team.
The defence had claimed, in both arguments and court filings, that the Prime Minister's Office and the Privy Council Office had attempted to orchestrate the prosecution of the case.
The defence also alleged that former Treasury Board president Scott Brison tried to kill the lease deal with the Davie shipyard in Levis, Que. on behalf of rival Irving Shipbuilding in his home province of Nova Scotia.
The Liberal government, the public prosecution service and Brison have all denied the accusations, which were made in court and in court filings.
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh called for an independent investigation of how the case was handled.
"What we've seen in this case is some deep concerns around a cosy relationship between the Liberal government and the Irving companies. We've heard concerns around Scott Brison's implication and involvement, and we also heard some allegations of direct political interference of the Prime Minister's Office in the handling of this case," he said.
"The process involved in a public prosecution like this is entirely independent of my office," he said.
"It's an independent process and we have confidence in the work done by the director of public prosecutions."
At Norman's pre-trial hearings, his defence team accused the government of blocking access to documents. Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer accused Trudeau today of trying to destroy Norman's reputation and career because the vice-admiral "stood up to him."
"We still have lots of questions about why the government was so afraid of the truth coming to light, why they withheld documents, why they refused to hand over information that Mark Norman and his lawyer were asking for to help clear his name and shed light on this," he said.
Director of Public Prosecutions Kathleen Roussel issued a statement that said the Crown concluded it could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Norman's conduct in this case amounted to a "serious and marked departure from the standards expected of a person in his position of trust." That decision was based on the evidence, the law and the "principles regarding reasonable prospect of conviction," she said.
No political influence
"No other factors were considered in this decision, nor was there any contact or influence from outside the PPSC, including political influence in either the initial decision to prosecute Mr. Norman or in the decision to stay the charge today," Roussel said.
Andrew Leslie, a retired lieutenant-general who was elected in 2015, announced May 1 he was stepping away from politics after one term as a Liberal MP. It was reported last week that Leslie would be testifying for Norman's defence.
When Norman arrived at the Ottawa courthouse Wednesday morning, Leslie was there to greet him.
CBC News caught up with Chantier Davie CEO Spencer Fraser outside the courtroom Wednesday. He said there will be an opportunity to speak more about the case as it "gets more explored."
"Today, I want to talk about the fact that justice has been served and Mark Norman is innocent, as we've always said he is," he said.
One other person has been charged in relation to the alleged leak of cabinet information. Matthew Matchett, a federal procurement official who was named in documents related to Norman's defence, was charged with a single count of breach of trust in February. He pleaded not guilty at a hearing in March and elected to stand trial by judge and jury.
The Crown's decision to abandon the case spares the Liberal government potential embarrassment at a critical time. Norman's trial was to begin in August, just weeks before the federal election campaign is set to begin.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
Well not responding to court ordered disclosure in an ongoing court case is an offence.
I guess we wil have to see if the "Open and Transparent" Trudeau government is willing to let the truth come out.
Or will we just see more 60 page redacted memoranda.
Regards,