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Methinks the folks who read my last comment must wonder why CBC would erase its own words after they had been posted for quite some time N'esy Pas?
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/cardy-doubles-down-china-1.5073279
Cardy doubles down on China criticism, despite premier's call for softer approach
Liberal MLA urges Blaine Higgs to 'rein in this rogue minister
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David R. Amos
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Methinks the folks who read my last comment must wonder why CBC would erase its own words N'esy Pas? David R. Amos
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Methinks I should offer little Deja Vu between Dominic Cardy and I from CBC in 2006 that some folks may enjoy reviewing N'esy Pas? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ndp-gets-help-from-democracy-expert-1.629834
NDP gets help from democracy expert
CBC News · Posted: Jan 09, 2006 4:23 PM AT
An international expert on democracy has flown all the way from Egypt to help NDP candidate John Carty campaign in Fredericton.
Cardy has taught about democracy in Algeria, Bangladesh, and Cambodia during the past few years. When he heard his friend John Carty was running for office back in his home town of Fredericton, he hopped on a plane.
"It was a strange experience," Cardy said. "One evening I was watching the sun go down over the pyramids, and the next evening watched it go down over Fredericton airport as I came into land."
Carty the candidate is running against federal Indian Affairs Minister Andy Scott, Conservative Pat Lynch, Green candidate Philip Duchastel and independent David Amos. The riding has sent Scott to Ottawa for the last four elections, despite the best efforts of the other parties.
Cardy says he doesn't care how tough the race his he just wants people to participate in the process. "People have forgotten how incredibly precious these gifts that our ancestors fought for are and were just giving them away. It makes me furious when I talk to people and people just say 'ah there's no point in voting.'"
After election day, Dominic Cardy is flying back home to his wife in Kathmandu, Nepal. He hopes to leave behind a new Member of Parliament for Fredericton, his friend John Carty for the NDP
William Reed
The spiritual leader of the Tibetan nation, the Dalai Lama, had no qualms about saying that he needed to work harder to forgive and even learn to love the Chinese despite what they have done. The truth here Mr. Cardy is that building walls is moronic. If he thinks both sides don't have something to learn from each other then he is wrong. Spending time in your enemies house is a exactly how you start changing such views.
David R. Amos
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Reply to @William Reed: Methinks you should expect should expect such things from a moron. FYI Cardy and Higgs sent me Tims Treats in the mail and videos of his cat How is that for dumb and dumber? Now they run the government N'esy Pas?David R. Amos
Reply to @David R. Amos: Oh My My Methinks somebody has a little problem with the truth N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Methinks its comical that dudes such as Cardy and Higgs who sent me Tims Treats in the mail and a video of Cardy's cat in order to get my goat now run the government N'esy Pas?
David Peters
"CBC News requested a copy of the contract(with the Confucius Institute) from the province in February but a copy was not provided."
Again, why all the secrecy surrounding public "institutions"?
David R. Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Methinks the answer is obvious N'esy Pas?
David Peters
Reply to @David R. Amos:
Not at all. Why even have a contract for something like this in the first place?
Not at all. Why even have a contract for something like this in the first place?
Craig O'Donnell
If we're going to follow Cardy's philosophy, then we might as well cut off all trade with China due to their poor human rights record; close all Chineses restaurants, cut out about half to 2/3 of the things you can purchase on-line that originate from China, ban all Chinese computers and cell phones, etc etc. It would be most surprising to me if a Chinese government funded education deal would include "we like to suppress human rights and shoot people in the back of the head". Get real, Cardy.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Craig O'Donnell: "Get real, Cardy."
Methinks Dominic Cardy cannot get real N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ndp-gets-help-from-democracy-expert-1.629834
Methinks Dominic Cardy cannot get real N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ndp-gets-help-from-democracy-expert-1.629834
David R. Amos
Need I say that I am still enoying the Circus?
Ray Bungay
Reply to @David R. Amos: Then you will realy enjoy the version of the circus going to St. Stephen on Friday?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ray Bungay: Methinks if I went the RCMP would try to arrest me again Hence desecration is the better part of valour N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/trudeau-halifax-national-pharmacare-implementation-1.5074261
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/trudeau-halifax-national-pharmacare-implementation-1.5074261
David R. Amos
Confucius said, "To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge.”
However methinks the all knowing Mr Cardy does not even know when to clam up N'esy Pas?
Shawn McShane
Reply to @David R. Amos: Confucius said: "Liberal who take sleeping pill and laxative on same night will wake up in deep **** with Shawn Graham."
David R. Amos
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Methinks everybody knows Confucius would never say such a thing not even in jest. No doubt the pastor in the purple coat would agree the Chinese politician and philosopher was all about common sense and far too wise to insult his opponents with such nonsense N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
"Obviously, it leads me to wonder who's in charge here. Who's running this province?"
Methinks everybody knows the 3 Stooges Kris Austin, Robert Gauvin and Dominic Cardy are and Mr Higgs deserves it N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David R. Amos: That's four...
Josef Blow
Reply to @Marc Martin: Actually it is three, if you read what Dave has said. He can count, you know. Well, to three anyway ...
Aaron Allison
Nice to see Cardy taking a page out of Jake Stewart's book., Higgs can't be Trusted.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Aaron Allison: Welcome to the Circus
Al Clark
Charlie Brown's "leadership" seems not so strong wha?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: It never was
Ronald Parker
If Mr. Cardy is concerned with China's authoritarian system I wonder what he thinks of 1 family owing all news print in NB?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ronald Parker: Well Put Sir
Brian Robertson
Unlike Liberals, conservatives are allowed to have differing opinions; even in public.
Josef Blow
Reply to @Brian Robertson: A Conservative, or a Liberal or a "Whatever" in a STRONG government would get their posterior booted if they were to disagree swiftly and categorically with the pronouncement of the leader on a serious policy issue such as this. Then again, if - for instance - a known political opportunist who (so obviously) strategically oinks at the chief might have an ulterior motive …. who knows, right?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Josef Blow: Speaking of making a deal with somebody who writes like a snobby lawyer. Methinks you should know the ghost of Monty Hall OC just whispered in my ear that he thinks you were the AG of New Brunswick who falsely claimed I was stalking him in 2007 but quit laughing at me the RCMP falsely arrested me in 2008 just before the economy collapsed and he got booted from his fancy job not long afterwards N'esy Pas?
Josef Blow
Reply to @David R. Amos: drunk with self importance are we, Dave?
Josef Blow
Is Dominic Cardy taking a page out o the playbook written by Ms. Raybould-Wilson and Ms.Philpott? (aka, "We should get rid of the boss".)
Reply to @Josef Blow: Who cares? Methinks Its still just as funny as your name N'esy Pas?
Reply to @David R. Amos: oh my, Youthinks ... let’s make a deal: you won’t ridicule my name anymore, and I won’t agree with and join in the chorus of the many commentators on here who rarely miss the opportunity to underline your pretentiousness and roll their eyes at your lack of depth and provision of any worthwhile contribution. And “who cares?”. Probably at least as many as those who (legitimately) consider your postings as those of a pseudo intellectual.
Ray Bungay
Reply to @Josef Blow: No, not that smart
David R. Amos
Reply to @Josef Blow: "pseudo intellectual."
Too Too Funny
Methinks you should look in the mirror and call yourself by your real name because you are not fooling anyone else N'esy Pas?
Too Too Funny
Methinks you should look in the mirror and call yourself by your real name because you are not fooling anyone else N'esy Pas?
Josef Blow
Reply to @David R. Amos: A rebel without a cause you are. A legend in your own mind. If brains were bucks, you’d be broke.
Janice small
Keep your friend close and your enemies closer.." Michael Corleone " God Father 1974 "
David R. Amos
Reply to @Janice small: Methinks that was not wise N'esy Pas?
Cardy doubles down on China criticism, despite premier's call for softer approach
Liberal MLA urges Blaine Higgs to 'rein in this rogue minister'
New Brunswick's education minister is doubling down on his criticism of China and on his plan to remove a Chinese government education program from schools — despite his own leader's call for a more cautious and diplomatic approach.
Dominic Cardy said he wants the Confucius Institute removed by June, and he doesn't plan to soften his criticism of China's authoritarian government.
"I will never apologize for speaking up very bluntly about human rights," he said Wednesday on CBC's Information Morning Moncton.
"I think it's core to who we are as a province, what we are as a country, and I will never stop talking about the centrality of human rights, because we're lucky to be in a country where we can criticize our government, unlike over a billion Chinese citizens who have no such freedoms."
His comments risk putting him in conflict with Premier Blaine Higgs, who said Tuesday he didn't want the issue to jeopardize New Brunswick's efforts to expand its exports to China.
Higgs said in question period that his government would "follow the contractual obligations that we have" in the partnership with China.
But the next morning, Cardy said his objections "remain exactly as they were, and I look forward to [the institute] no longer being in our schools come June."
Asked if he wanted to cancel the contract "even though your premier says 'maybe not,'" Cardy responded, "Correct."
Cardy said earlier this year that he had heard complaints from students about the program's "one-dimensional" approach to teaching about China.
Higgs's call for a more diplomatic tack on the issue came after the Liberal Opposition said Cardy's criticism of China might set back New Brunswick's ability to export its products to the country.
Higgs said that in a meeting last week, China's consul-general in Montreal said he "would like to make changes and improvements" to address the concerns.
Cardy, who once worked for a U.S.-based non-profit agency promoting democracy abroad, brushed off the apparent offer to modify the program.
"My objection is to the presence of a foreign government in the New Brunswick's school system, especially a government that has so little in common with our values," he said. He added that "spreading propaganda in our school system" is not appropriate "under any circumstances."
Asked if this put him at odds with Higgs, Cardy said he made his position "very clear to my leader and to my party colleagues.
"It's a very fundamental principle that I had before I came into this job."
He said his only concern about being named education minister was having to sign off on the Confucius Institute's presence.
Higgs did not speak to reporters at the legislature Wednesday about Cardy's latest comments.
Liberal MLA Chuck Chiasson called on the premier to "rein in this rogue minister" following Cardy's interview.
"Obviously, it leads me to wonder who's in charge here. Who's running this province? Is it the premier or the minister of education?"
The institute operated in 28 New Brunswick schools in 2016, with more than 5,440 students taking part in 2016, according to its website. It first began operating in the province under the government of former Liberal premier Shawn Graham.
Critics of China's authoritarian system and its push for a greater role in world affairs have claimed the institute is a way to shape a more positive image of the country. In 2012, a former Canadian Security Intelligence Service called it a "Trojan horse."
As part of the program, a provincial government-owned company, Atlantic Education International, sells the New Brunswick school curriculum to private schools in China.
The debate comes at the same time China has cancelled the licences of two Canadian companies exporting canola to the country, a move seen as retaliation for Canada's arrest of a Chinese business executive wanted in the U.S.
Chiasson said he worries Cardy is putting New Brunswick's trade with China in jeopardy and refused to tell journalists whether he believes the Chinese government violates human rights.
"Whether they're violated or not, it's not up to me to decide," he said. "It's up to the federal government to provide their opinion on that.
"Raising human rights is a federal responsibility. We can teach them in our schools, and we should, but when it comes to acting on the global stage, it's not up to the minister. It's not his responsibility."
Green MLA Megan Mitton said Cardy has raised a valid point about the Confucius Institute and what it teachers in New Brunswick schools.
"While cultural and language exchange is important, ultimately the curriculum should be written for New Brunswickers by New Brunswickers," she said.
Higgs said Tuesday he didn't know the duration of New Brunswick's contract with the Confucius Institute nor whether it included an exit clause. A government spokesperson said Wednesday the five-year agreement would expire in 2022.
CBC News requested a copy of the contract from the province in February but a copy was not provided.
Dominic Cardy said he wants the Confucius Institute removed by June, and he doesn't plan to soften his criticism of China's authoritarian government.
"I will never apologize for speaking up very bluntly about human rights," he said Wednesday on CBC's Information Morning Moncton.
"I think it's core to who we are as a province, what we are as a country, and I will never stop talking about the centrality of human rights, because we're lucky to be in a country where we can criticize our government, unlike over a billion Chinese citizens who have no such freedoms."
Higgs reluctant
His comments risk putting him in conflict with Premier Blaine Higgs, who said Tuesday he didn't want the issue to jeopardize New Brunswick's efforts to expand its exports to China.
Higgs said in question period that his government would "follow the contractual obligations that we have" in the partnership with China.
Asked if he wanted to cancel the contract "even though your premier says 'maybe not,'" Cardy responded, "Correct."
Obviously, it leads me to wonder who's in charge here. Who's running this province?- Chuck Chiasson, Liberal MLAThe Confucius Institute teaches New Brunswick students about Chinese language and culture but avoids discussions of the country's authoritarian, one-party system and its human rights record.
Cardy said earlier this year that he had heard complaints from students about the program's "one-dimensional" approach to teaching about China.
Higgs's call for a more diplomatic tack on the issue came after the Liberal Opposition said Cardy's criticism of China might set back New Brunswick's ability to export its products to the country.
Cardy, who once worked for a U.S.-based non-profit agency promoting democracy abroad, brushed off the apparent offer to modify the program.
"My objection is to the presence of a foreign government in the New Brunswick's school system, especially a government that has so little in common with our values," he said. He added that "spreading propaganda in our school system" is not appropriate "under any circumstances."
Asked if this put him at odds with Higgs, Cardy said he made his position "very clear to my leader and to my party colleagues.
"It's a very fundamental principle that I had before I came into this job."
He said his only concern about being named education minister was having to sign off on the Confucius Institute's presence.
Higgs did not speak to reporters at the legislature Wednesday about Cardy's latest comments.
Liberal MLA Chuck Chiasson called on the premier to "rein in this rogue minister" following Cardy's interview.
"Obviously, it leads me to wonder who's in charge here. Who's running this province? Is it the premier or the minister of education?"
In 28 schools
The institute operated in 28 New Brunswick schools in 2016, with more than 5,440 students taking part in 2016, according to its website. It first began operating in the province under the government of former Liberal premier Shawn Graham.
Critics of China's authoritarian system and its push for a greater role in world affairs have claimed the institute is a way to shape a more positive image of the country. In 2012, a former Canadian Security Intelligence Service called it a "Trojan horse."
As part of the program, a provincial government-owned company, Atlantic Education International, sells the New Brunswick school curriculum to private schools in China.
The debate comes at the same time China has cancelled the licences of two Canadian companies exporting canola to the country, a move seen as retaliation for Canada's arrest of a Chinese business executive wanted in the U.S.
Sees risk to trade
Chiasson said he worries Cardy is putting New Brunswick's trade with China in jeopardy and refused to tell journalists whether he believes the Chinese government violates human rights.
"Whether they're violated or not, it's not up to me to decide," he said. "It's up to the federal government to provide their opinion on that.
"Raising human rights is a federal responsibility. We can teach them in our schools, and we should, but when it comes to acting on the global stage, it's not up to the minister. It's not his responsibility."
Green MLA Megan Mitton said Cardy has raised a valid point about the Confucius Institute and what it teachers in New Brunswick schools.
Contract up in 2022
"While cultural and language exchange is important, ultimately the curriculum should be written for New Brunswickers by New Brunswickers," she said.
Higgs said Tuesday he didn't know the duration of New Brunswick's contract with the Confucius Institute nor whether it included an exit clause. A government spokesperson said Wednesday the five-year agreement would expire in 2022.
CBC News requested a copy of the contract from the province in February but a copy was not provided.
With files from Information Morning Moncton