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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks it is as the Yankees often say It ain't over til the fat lady sings N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/wilson-raybould-says-pmo-restricting.html
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-wilson-raybould-snc-lavalin-1.5033639
Troy Bodi
Everybody knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?
Chris Spiers
Luke Armstrong
Charles Farley
Kevin Carns
Chuck Cunningham
Chris Bond
chris bowdler
bill chagwich
David Amos
@Randall Johnson Trust that Gerald Butts, Andrew Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that it irritated me big time when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?
Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" N'esy Pas?
Jimmy johnson
Jody Wilson-Raybould wrote to the chair of the justice committee Tuesday evening to say that while she will agree to give testimony before MPs on Wednesday, she will not be able to speak freely because of constraints that still exist around what she can and can't talk about.
The former justice minister had obtained a broad waiver from the Prime Minister's Office that allows her to disclose details of her conversations with government officials about the prosecution of SCN Lavalin, a Montreal-based global engineering and construction company.
In an Order in Council (OIC) posted online, the government said Wilson-Raybould — "and any persons who directly participated in discussions with her relating to the exercise of her authority under the Director of Public Prosecutions Act respecting the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin" — can report to the committee and to the federal ethics commissioner any cabinet confidences "in any information or communications that were directly discussed with her respecting the exercise of that authority while she held that office."
But in the letter to Anthony Housefather, Wilson-Raybould said those parameters will not allow her to "speak freely."
"The OIC addresses only my time as attorney general of Canada and therefore does nothing to release me from any restrictions that apply to communications while I served as minister of veterans affairs and in relation to my resignation from that post or my presentation to cabinet after I had resigned," she said in the letter.
On Monday, Wilson-Raybould wrote the committee saying she is "anxious" to appear, and sought permission to deliver a 30-minute opening statement instead of the usual five to 10 minutes, a request which has been granted by the committee.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Tuesday he's "pleased" that Wilson-Raybould will be able to "share her perspectives" on the SNC-Lavalin affair.
"It's important that people get an opportunity to testify, or share their point of view, at committee," Trudeau told reporters as he headed into the weekly Liberal cabinet meeting.
"As we said, waiving privilege, waiving cabinet confidentiality is something that we had to take very seriously, but I'm pleased that Ms. Wilson-Raybould is going to be able to share her perspectives."
The OIC waived cabinet confidence and solicitor-client privilege for Wilson-Raybould in her conversations with the justice committee and the ethics commissioner. The waiver does not cover communications between Wilson-Raybould and the director of public prosecutions — a limit imposed to "uphold the integrity of any criminal or civil proceedings," according to the text of the order.
"What we were doing is establishing a process that's fair and open and allows transparency but still protects the very principles that we want to protect in the legal system, as well as not interfering with ongoing litigation," he said.
Lametti confirmed there were "contacts" between lawyers, but would not say whether he was talking about discussions between government lawyers and Wilson-Raybould's counsel — retired Supreme Court justice Thomas Cromwell.
The justice committee is examining the growing controversy touched off by a Feb. 7 Globe and Mail report that said Trudeau's aides attempted to press Wilson-Raybould to intervene in the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin to help the company avoid criminal prosecution on bribery charges related to contracts in Libya.
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks it is as the Yankees often say It ain't over til the fat lady sings N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/02/wilson-raybould-says-pmo-restricting.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-wilson-raybould-snc-lavalin-1.5033639
Wilson-Raybould says PMO restricting her ability to 'speak freely' at Justice committee Wednesday
Comments
Troy Bodi
Guess it took a couple of weeks for everyone to get their story straight
Jody Melsom
@Troy Bodi I can only assume you believe an accused killer drops the knife and goes straight to trial. It is a process that needs to be followed.
David Sampson
@Troy Bodi
If it turns out Trudeau lied, the consequences are fairly obvious. It’s unfortunate that those who prejudged based on petty partisan politics face no consequence whatsoever if Trudeau’s story holds true.
If it turns out Trudeau lied, the consequences are fairly obvious. It’s unfortunate that those who prejudged based on petty partisan politics face no consequence whatsoever if Trudeau’s story holds true.
Gideon Warren
@Dwight Williams Doesn't matter if she hates Trudeau ...Scheers Conservatives will try to destroy her Nation so she is Liberal through and through. She has won a lot of support in the Party as well and has a good crack at leader of Liberals next cycle. She would be a fool otherwise.
david kirby
@Gideon Warren
How can the PCs possibly destroy something the politically correct Liberals have already done? Just go West and sample the alienation.
How can the PCs possibly destroy something the politically correct Liberals have already done? Just go West and sample the alienation.
Charly Vaughan
@Troy Bodi at least sunny ways have a song to sing vs the cons blowing their air horns on the virtue of dirty oil
Jamie Gillis
@Troy Bodi
I don't know what we're going to hear tomorrow, but I think it's safe to say this: I doubt Gerald would have resigned and the PMO would have lit itself on fire in one of the worst examples of damage control and communications if this didn't have the potential to seriously damage Trudeau/PMO. But I think it's fair to also say that if her side of the story leaves us saying "oh! That's all this was about?" then we would have the right to be seriously irritated that we were subjected to a pointless melodrama.
I don't know what we're going to hear tomorrow, but I think it's safe to say this: I doubt Gerald would have resigned and the PMO would have lit itself on fire in one of the worst examples of damage control and communications if this didn't have the potential to seriously damage Trudeau/PMO. But I think it's fair to also say that if her side of the story leaves us saying "oh! That's all this was about?" then we would have the right to be seriously irritated that we were subjected to a pointless melodrama.
Carson Brook
@Troy Bodi
No - everyone doesn't have 'their' story straight. Right here in this article is Lisa Raitt doing the reconstruction of the issues so's to cover up the Scheer party's hysterical smearing about , oh dear, JWR felt pressure is why she did the quit-splat on veterans
Raitt making up a new story about "either in what Mr. Lametti said, or in what the prime minister said, that caused her to realize she didn't have the confidence of the cabinet any longer and she had to remove herself "
Hello LIsa - your new spin about what's not been at all part of the faker smear story - won't work. Because if all this is not about 'her truth' or 'her pressure' - then it's all been just one more bitter brooding malcontent shafting the team..... who did the quit-splat using some hidden surrogate spilling fake allegations on the JWR"s behalf
So say Scheer party, all the news outlets, and upheld in the silence while moving about JWR herself. And two bottom lines (1) every Prime Minister has obligation to create his own best Cabinet - and he owes no explanation to anyone for any of that; people chosen get to say yes I will or no I won't - she said yes. (2) then she did the quit-splat and mega skillful sculking sulk Here we are - until she has her 30 minutes plus of truth telling and issue avoidance
No - everyone doesn't have 'their' story straight. Right here in this article is Lisa Raitt doing the reconstruction of the issues so's to cover up the Scheer party's hysterical smearing about , oh dear, JWR felt pressure is why she did the quit-splat on veterans
Raitt making up a new story about "either in what Mr. Lametti said, or in what the prime minister said, that caused her to realize she didn't have the confidence of the cabinet any longer and she had to remove herself "
Hello LIsa - your new spin about what's not been at all part of the faker smear story - won't work. Because if all this is not about 'her truth' or 'her pressure' - then it's all been just one more bitter brooding malcontent shafting the team..... who did the quit-splat using some hidden surrogate spilling fake allegations on the JWR"s behalf
So say Scheer party, all the news outlets, and upheld in the silence while moving about JWR herself. And two bottom lines (1) every Prime Minister has obligation to create his own best Cabinet - and he owes no explanation to anyone for any of that; people chosen get to say yes I will or no I won't - she said yes. (2) then she did the quit-splat and mega skillful sculking sulk Here we are - until she has her 30 minutes plus of truth telling and issue avoidance
Troy Bodi
@Carson Brook
I'm talking about the Liberals getting their story straight. I haven't a clue what you're ranting about.
I'm talking about the Liberals getting their story straight. I haven't a clue what you're ranting about.
Richard Sharp
@Troy Bodi
The Libs have entered unprecedented territory in allowing this committee to proceed, and the call was made by the committee itself, not by the PM or the PMO. That’s a first in Canadian history. Harper would have shut it down on a dime.
Unprecedented event number two. Allowing the former and existing justice Minister to appear, along with the DM of justice and the Clerk of the Privacy Council. Three? Waiving solicitor client privilege and Cabinet confidentialiyy. Four (at least compared to the Cons)? Not attacking every critic. The Harper Cons would be into full frontal character assassinations by now.
The Libs have entered unprecedented territory in allowing this committee to proceed, and the call was made by the committee itself, not by the PM or the PMO. That’s a first in Canadian history. Harper would have shut it down on a dime.
Unprecedented event number two. Allowing the former and existing justice Minister to appear, along with the DM of justice and the Clerk of the Privacy Council. Three? Waiving solicitor client privilege and Cabinet confidentialiyy. Four (at least compared to the Cons)? Not attacking every critic. The Harper Cons would be into full frontal character assassinations by now.
Carson Brook
@Gideon Warren
Jody WIlson-Raybould has no crack at leadership role. Unless she's drawn to a hotel room meeting with Scheer a la Leona Alleslev. But that would shock even me... whose belief in JWR has been shattered by her own behaviour.
Leaders don't keep their truths in a closet; don't get unnamed surrogates to dish secretive dirt in unsupported allegations; don't mislead their team leaders, and never ever do quit-splats against the oaths they took of their own volition
Jody WIlson-Raybould has no crack at leadership role. Unless she's drawn to a hotel room meeting with Scheer a la Leona Alleslev. But that would shock even me... whose belief in JWR has been shattered by her own behaviour.
Leaders don't keep their truths in a closet; don't get unnamed surrogates to dish secretive dirt in unsupported allegations; don't mislead their team leaders, and never ever do quit-splats against the oaths they took of their own volition
david kirby
@Richard Sharp
Surely you joke. This Committee is chaired by someone who said she was moved because she could not speak French? What is sorely needed is an inquiry devoid of any partisanship.
Surely you joke. This Committee is chaired by someone who said she was moved because she could not speak French? What is sorely needed is an inquiry devoid of any partisanship.
Troy Bodi
@Richard Sharp
Well isn't that special of them. Kinda like the guy that turns himself into the cops on his own accord.
Either way, good to see everyone has their talking points down. Libs aren't Cons. Cons aren't Libs. None of them have any integrity. Hey! common ground! Working together is fun.
Well isn't that special of them. Kinda like the guy that turns himself into the cops on his own accord.
Either way, good to see everyone has their talking points down. Libs aren't Cons. Cons aren't Libs. None of them have any integrity. Hey! common ground! Working together is fun.
Jamie Gillis
@Carson Brook
Your smears of JWR are entirely out of line and untrue. So far there is zero evidence that she is only acting in her own interest. Your smears against Lisa Raitt and the Conservatives are also unfounded. They've been far from hysterical. They're doing what the rest of the opposition is doing - looking for answers. The Liberals would do the same if the roles were reversed and you know it.
Your smears of JWR are entirely out of line and untrue. So far there is zero evidence that she is only acting in her own interest. Your smears against Lisa Raitt and the Conservatives are also unfounded. They've been far from hysterical. They're doing what the rest of the opposition is doing - looking for answers. The Liberals would do the same if the roles were reversed and you know it.
Jamie Gillis
@david kirby
I agree, David. The Liberals certainly haven't shown any valour in this.
I agree, David. The Liberals certainly haven't shown any valour in this.
Richard Sharp
@Troy Bodi
The INDEPENDENT justice committee is proceeding with its investigation, the Lib government is cooperating by allowing very senior witnesses, including Ministers and senior public servants, and by waiving solicitor client privilege and Cabinet confidentiality, AND STILL Trudeau and the Libs are getting smeared Nine out of ten posts, like yours.
This from Canada’s national broadcaster, charged with promoting national unity.
The INDEPENDENT justice committee is proceeding with its investigation, the Lib government is cooperating by allowing very senior witnesses, including Ministers and senior public servants, and by waiving solicitor client privilege and Cabinet confidentiality, AND STILL Trudeau and the Libs are getting smeared Nine out of ten posts, like yours.
This from Canada’s national broadcaster, charged with promoting national unity.
Stephen David
@Richard Sharp
The Liberals are losing by 7 points Richard.....they are finished.
The Liberals are losing by 7 points Richard.....they are finished.
Stephen David
@Richard Sharp
Sorry Richard the Liberals are done...check out the Angus Reid poll or the Huffington post....oh yeah!
Sorry Richard the Liberals are done...check out the Angus Reid poll or the Huffington post....oh yeah!
Darren MacDonald
@Troy Bodi Someone is probably still behind the scene calling the shots.
Jamie Gillis
@Richard Sharp "All you ever do is deny, deflect and distract. Smear and sneer. Try those important little things like evidence and proof."
Thanks for the unprovoked personal attack, Richard. Makes me smile.
Thanks for the unprovoked personal attack, Richard. Makes me smile.
Ewan Cameron
@David Sampson
Didn’t stop you with the Duffy feeding frenzy. By the way, he was found not guilty in a court of law.
Didn’t stop you with the Duffy feeding frenzy. By the way, he was found not guilty in a court of law.
Carson Brook
@Jamie Gillis
smears, eh? maybe go back and read my comment about Lisa Raitt because - whooo - it was a quote from her in this article.
Smears of JWR? Go back and read my comment - what point are you claiming is inaccurate. Every point about her conduct is accurate according statements made by her, by her surrogate, or in her name. Or are you just unhappy that there's any clear look at the process of all this instead of the way people are going with the flow of the septic content put out between the Bob Fife article to Lisa Raitt's reconstruction today?
I understand your feeling unhappy. Now you understand that lots of people sharing my view from the perch are also unhappy
smears, eh? maybe go back and read my comment about Lisa Raitt because - whooo - it was a quote from her in this article.
Smears of JWR? Go back and read my comment - what point are you claiming is inaccurate. Every point about her conduct is accurate according statements made by her, by her surrogate, or in her name. Or are you just unhappy that there's any clear look at the process of all this instead of the way people are going with the flow of the septic content put out between the Bob Fife article to Lisa Raitt's reconstruction today?
I understand your feeling unhappy. Now you understand that lots of people sharing my view from the perch are also unhappy
Carson Brook
@david kirby
More about difference between 'process' and 'content'. JWR will spent 30 minutes tomorrow on content\; who said what, when etc. in order to account for her hidden truth, her quit-splat of the veterans, her failure to speak truth to power not, as she indicates, by having to have 30 minutes tomorrow to itemize her failure to have dynamic, balanced, full, honest, and clearly expressive communications with anyone she'd taken an oath of office to be on a team with. Her content may be salacious, interesting, anecdotally fascinating - and fodder for the salacious minded 'opposition' -
but it's the nature of her process as she enacted her role as Justice Minister and Attorney General of Canada - and then as an MP accepting a new Cabinet position which is at the root cause of this whole messy disservice to the processes of our governance. She made those process choices. Each of us has to choose how we are upstanding in our lives. It's not about 'content' - its about how we act who we are moment by moment.
More about difference between 'process' and 'content'. JWR will spent 30 minutes tomorrow on content\; who said what, when etc. in order to account for her hidden truth, her quit-splat of the veterans, her failure to speak truth to power not, as she indicates, by having to have 30 minutes tomorrow to itemize her failure to have dynamic, balanced, full, honest, and clearly expressive communications with anyone she'd taken an oath of office to be on a team with. Her content may be salacious, interesting, anecdotally fascinating - and fodder for the salacious minded 'opposition' -
but it's the nature of her process as she enacted her role as Justice Minister and Attorney General of Canada - and then as an MP accepting a new Cabinet position which is at the root cause of this whole messy disservice to the processes of our governance. She made those process choices. Each of us has to choose how we are upstanding in our lives. It's not about 'content' - its about how we act who we are moment by moment.
Jamie Gillis
@Carson Brook "I understand your feeling unhappy."
I'm feeling quite content on the whole, Carson. Thanks for your concern.
I'm feeling quite content on the whole, Carson. Thanks for your concern.
Len Evans
@Gideon Warren
So you feel she might be seeking the Leadership of the Liberal party? Wow. That's the second time in as many days I've heard that same thought... So the thought is that she scuttles the current leadership structure from within, casts doubt & shadow around those who might be a problem. Then she attempts to take the leadership herself? All by design? That theory might explain a good many things to me.
So you feel she might be seeking the Leadership of the Liberal party? Wow. That's the second time in as many days I've heard that same thought... So the thought is that she scuttles the current leadership structure from within, casts doubt & shadow around those who might be a problem. Then she attempts to take the leadership herself? All by design? That theory might explain a good many things to me.
Tony Spencer
@Stephen David Ha. Way to count your chickens, Stevie.
David Amos
@Troy Bodi Methinks Anthony Housefather and his boss Trudeau should know they cannot stop Jody Wilson-Raybould from talking about Federal Court File No T-1557-15 N'esy Pas?
Sandra Largent
@Richard Sharp If I may remind you when the Duffy scandal was going on Harper opened it up for examination by the courts, so Richard I know you struggle with having your party embroiled this way . Even the PM is not above the law nor any cabinet minister of any party. Don't worry if everything is above board you should have no worries. Have a great afternoon tomorrow, TRUTH TO POWER as JWR said in her statement.
Sandra Largent
@david kirby Along with many other excuse too many to mention.
Sandra Largent
@Richard Sharp Ah, your last line is very telling, I shall say no more on THAT subject and I would not go down that path if I were you.
Sandra Largent
@Jamie Gillis I have been told numerous times that personal attacks won't be tolerated by CBC, strangely Richard seems to be immune.
David Amos
@Carson Brook "No - everyone doesn't have 'their' story straight"
Speak for yourself
Speak for yourself
David Amos
@Richard Sharp Yea Right
David Amos
@Troy Bodi Methinks truth is stranger than fiction and anyone can easily Google "David Amos Federal Court file No. T-1557-15" in order to sort out the truth from fiction for themselves. Its blatantly obvious that Mr Trudeau had a duty to talk to Harper's Minister of justice and Peter MacKay and had them pay particular attention to info found within statement 83 of my lawsuit long before the election in October of 2015
Everybody knows why I am about to put the aforementioned matter before the Supreme Court and file several more lawsuits in the Federal Court against the RCMP and the CRA etc and also run for a seat in Parliament again N'esy Pas?
Arlond Lynds
@Troy Bodi
Wilson-Raybould appears to be the only one with something she needs to get off her chest, so have at it, grind that axe Jody. Personally I have been totally unimpressed with how Wilson-Raybould has handled this entire issue.
Wilson-Raybould appears to be the only one with something she needs to get off her chest, so have at it, grind that axe Jody. Personally I have been totally unimpressed with how Wilson-Raybould has handled this entire issue.
Richard Sharp
@Carson Brook
Jamie stalks me day and night. You?
Jamie stalks me day and night. You?
Chris Spiers
What a patronizing PM. The arrogance of his actions is incredible
"share her perspectives" - so with that phrase, its not the truth, its her opinion is what he is saying.
"share her perspectives" - so with that phrase, its not the truth, its her opinion is what he is saying.
Jeff Smith
@Chris Spiers
She experienced it differently.......
She experienced it differently.......
John Reed
@Chris Spiers how can you expecnt anything less? his arrogance is on full display at all times.
Mark Burgoyne
@Chris Spiers Every conversation has two sides, the truth is almost always in the middle
Chris Spiers
@Mark Burgoyne
except when coming from Trudeau, the truth is a straight as one of his parade attendees
except when coming from Trudeau, the truth is a straight as one of his parade attendees
James Fitzgibbon
@Chris Spiers
Would you prefer if she shared someone else's perspectives?
Would you prefer if she shared someone else's perspectives?
Chris Spiers
@James Fitzgibbon
How about the Truth and not "perspectives" (point of view)
How about the Truth and not "perspectives" (point of view)
Stan Brown
@Chris Spiers I believe his arrogance actually has him thinking he did no wrong. Would seem 5 previous ethics violations would support that.
Xavier Galan
@Chris Spiers
The truth will only come out until a proper investigation is done. Until then, any opinions on the matter is just that opinions.
The truth will only come out until a proper investigation is done. Until then, any opinions on the matter is just that opinions.
Frank Cow
@Chris Spiers Finally Trudeau will be cleared and all this nonsense will be in the open. How many here are actually posting from Canada?
This is a nonsense story that is nothing more than smoke..made from dry ice on top of it.
This is a nonsense story that is nothing more than smoke..made from dry ice on top of it.
Chris Spiers
@Frank Cow
You really think that foreigners want to undermind Trudeau?
They want to keep him around, he has proven that he can be dominated by foreign leaders, Corporate Leaders, and Special Interest Groups.
He is the type of puppet that Globalist want, controllable
You really think that foreigners want to undermind Trudeau?
They want to keep him around, he has proven that he can be dominated by foreign leaders, Corporate Leaders, and Special Interest Groups.
He is the type of puppet that Globalist want, controllable
David Allan
@Chris Spiers
"so with that phrase, its not the truth, its her opinion is what he is saying."
It's her professional opinion as a lawyer.
Get a clue.
"so with that phrase, its not the truth, its her opinion is what he is saying."
It's her professional opinion as a lawyer.
Get a clue.
David Allan
@Chris Spiers
"How about the Truth and not "perspectives" (point of view)"
What's the difference?
Look at your own posts. They're your perspectives and frequently so far from reality and truth that they appear to be satire.
"How about the Truth and not "perspectives" (point of view)"
What's the difference?
Look at your own posts. They're your perspectives and frequently so far from reality and truth that they appear to be satire.
Chris Spiers
@David Allan
I thank you for thinking my opinions and posts have influence on Canadian Law and Governance, but they don't.
But, Every statement that Trudeau puts out is a reflection of our government and thus gets scrutinized.
So when he plays with words to dazzle you, I go unfazed and see right through Mr Transparency
I thank you for thinking my opinions and posts have influence on Canadian Law and Governance, but they don't.
But, Every statement that Trudeau puts out is a reflection of our government and thus gets scrutinized.
So when he plays with words to dazzle you, I go unfazed and see right through Mr Transparency
Carson Brook
@Chris Spiers
Clearly, by your comments, you don't care what she says at all - you're only interested in what our Prime Minister says. Which you call 'arrogance' just because he's been so brave and available about answering all the sickening and lurid trash Qs tossed at him. But you do confess to care more about his perspective than hers. Good for you
Clearly, by your comments, you don't care what she says at all - you're only interested in what our Prime Minister says. Which you call 'arrogance' just because he's been so brave and available about answering all the sickening and lurid trash Qs tossed at him. But you do confess to care more about his perspective than hers. Good for you
david kirby
@Chris Spiers
This whole saga has 'Academic Speak' written all over it. "Her truths" , "Share her perspectives". Even the Oscars were more credible
This whole saga has 'Academic Speak' written all over it. "Her truths" , "Share her perspectives". Even the Oscars were more credible
david kirby
@Carson Brook
Trudeau brave? I can think of many descriptors but that is not one of them
Trudeau brave? I can think of many descriptors but that is not one of them
Chris Maurier
@Chris Spiers When many are too abuse and have trouble with comprehension they usually see the other as patronizing .
Robert Lee
@Chris Spiers
Sounds to me like he's echoing JWR's evasive and ambiguous ,
"Tell my truth"
Sounds to me like he's echoing JWR's evasive and ambiguous ,
"Tell my truth"
Len Evans
@Chris Spiers
In the words of Obi-wan Kenobi;
“... you’re going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.” “The truth is often what we make of it; you heard what you wanted to hear, believed what you wanted to believe.”
In the words of Obi-wan Kenobi;
“... you’re going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.” “The truth is often what we make of it; you heard what you wanted to hear, believed what you wanted to believe.”
David Amos
@Robert Lee Methinks it is as the Yankees often say It ain't over til the fat lady sings N'esy Pas?
Sandra Largent
@Chris Spiers Yes and Soros would not be keen to lose him, nor the UN.
Sandra Largent
@Carson Brook Oh really, I listen to QP frequently and I have yet to hear him answer a question that's not a word salad.
Arlond Lynds
@Chris Spiers
Honestly, you felt that was worth saying? And all your little uppers joined in???
Honestly, you felt that was worth saying? And all your little uppers joined in???
Luke Armstrong
This took too long and Trudeau's nose seems to be getting larger by the day....What's going on?
Rhea Montgomery
@Luke Armstrong It took the amount of time it takes for the legal process to happen. But keep going with that if it makes you feel better.
Robert Brannen
@Luke Armstrong
It's called due diligence.
It's called due diligence.
Mark O'Connell
@Robert Brannen its called smoke and mirrors
James Fitzgibbon
@Luke Armstrong
Looks like due process to me. But then I don't buy into far right conspiracy theories.
Looks like due process to me. But then I don't buy into far right conspiracy theories.
David Allan
@Luke Armstrong
How long should it have taken and what's your expert background to make such a claim?
How long should it have taken and what's your expert background to make such a claim?
Carson Brook
@David Allan
wrote a reply about this being such a good question etc
and got the red block.... heads up
wrote a reply about this being such a good question etc
and got the red block.... heads up
colin smith
@Luke Armstrong
Legal things take time. SNC Lavalin investigation is ongoing. They have to make sure from legal point of view to not undermine the investigation. This doesn't seem to be Liberal or Conservative thing. This legal thing only and now that privilege can be waved we get fing out what's going on. Almost seems to me that Conservative supporters are worried the results might not be damning as the Conservatives have been pushing. For Conservative to win they need a scandal like this. If there isn't a scandal then winning the election means they have to work for it and we haven't seen Scheer even begin to work for it. He just feels entitled to win. That won't get him a majority.
I don't like the Conservative at this time but that's just what I'm seeing. I'm not sure who I'll vote for just won't be Conservative it an Election was held today. In 6 month that might change.
Legal things take time. SNC Lavalin investigation is ongoing. They have to make sure from legal point of view to not undermine the investigation. This doesn't seem to be Liberal or Conservative thing. This legal thing only and now that privilege can be waved we get fing out what's going on. Almost seems to me that Conservative supporters are worried the results might not be damning as the Conservatives have been pushing. For Conservative to win they need a scandal like this. If there isn't a scandal then winning the election means they have to work for it and we haven't seen Scheer even begin to work for it. He just feels entitled to win. That won't get him a majority.
I don't like the Conservative at this time but that's just what I'm seeing. I'm not sure who I'll vote for just won't be Conservative it an Election was held today. In 6 month that might change.
Robert Lee
@Luke Armstrong
Ya, guess what? Two ongoing court cases to keep mindful of.
I hope SNC sues all the blabber mouths for smearing them on the news.
Ya, guess what? Two ongoing court cases to keep mindful of.
I hope SNC sues all the blabber mouths for smearing them on the news.
David Amos
@Robert Lee My lawsuit heading for the Supreme Court soon
Arlond Lynds
@Luke Armstrong
This went by in a flash, usually when Scheer is crying wolf, wolf, wolf it takes a month or two for anyone to even notice.
This went by in a flash, usually when Scheer is crying wolf, wolf, wolf it takes a month or two for anyone to even notice.
Richard Sharp
@Luke Armstrong
No PM has ever been so open and accommodating to public scrutiny as Trudeau.
No PM has ever been so open and accommodating to public scrutiny as Trudeau.
David Amos
@Robert Lee "I hope SNC sues all the blabber mouths for smearing them on the news."
I hope they sue me
I hope they sue me
David Amos
@Richard Sharp "No PM has ever been so open and accommodating to public scrutiny as Trudeau."
How do you sleep without a clear conscience?
How do you sleep without a clear conscience?
Charles Farley
Hopefully the truth comes out and this can be settled once and for all.
Dwight Williams
@Charles Farley
Anyone can agree with that.
Anyone can agree with that.
Gary Barratt
@Charles Farley I do not think so
Peter Bota
@Charles Farley knowing Trudeau is behind the whole thing makes it clear we will never know the truth
Robert Brannen
@Peter Bota
So, you are one of the, until now, anonymous sources?
So, you are one of the, until now, anonymous sources?
Ron Vollans
@Charles Farley
It will never be settled in the eyes of some. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
It will never be settled in the eyes of some. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
david kirby
@Ron Vollans
Of course it will not be settled. The Liberals will claim they were just providing context and the opposition will say the Government were exerting undue pressure. The only thing for sure is it shows just how badly the PMO handled what was a communications crisis. Heaven help us if a real crisis occurs.
Of course it will not be settled. The Liberals will claim they were just providing context and the opposition will say the Government were exerting undue pressure. The only thing for sure is it shows just how badly the PMO handled what was a communications crisis. Heaven help us if a real crisis occurs.
Tony Spencer
@david kirby So then, this is not a real crisis in your mind? That's interesting.
David Amos
@Charles Farley Dream on
Dan Cooper
@Charles Farley
I am outraged at the lengths the CBC will go to to campaign for the Liberals.
LOL
I am outraged at the lengths the CBC will go to to campaign for the Liberals.
LOL
David Amos
@Dan Cooper Me Too
Arlond Lynds
@Charles Farley
Like the mob on hear is looking for truth.
Like the mob on hear is looking for truth.
David Amos
@Arlond Lynds Check my work id ya dare
Kevin Carns
Fact Trudeau tried to cover this up from day 1
Fact three people resigned from their jobs
Fact Trudeau took a nose dive in the polls
Now all of sudden its ok for Jody to speak , sure thing
Fact three people resigned from their jobs
Fact Trudeau took a nose dive in the polls
Now all of sudden its ok for Jody to speak , sure thing
Dan Lmnaga
@Kevin Carns After everything was lawyered up from 2 sides.
Robert Lee
@Kevin Carns
So keeping discreet about PMO business is a "cover up"?
So keeping discreet about PMO business is a "cover up"?
David Amos
@Dan Lmnaga YUP
David Amos
@Kevin Carns "Now all of sudden its ok for Jody to speak , sure thing"
You do understand that this is just a wicked game played at our expense?
You do understand that this is just a wicked game played at our expense?
Chuck Cunningham
"What we were doing is establishing a process that's fair and open and allows transparency"
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"We were stalling and trying to get our stories straight"
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"We were stalling and trying to get our stories straight"
David Amos
@Chuck Cunningham YUP
Chris Bond
Trudeau is a complete disgrace. Over three weeks to waive privilege.
Graham Greene
@Chris Bond
Hahaha . . . . . . I see this playing out just 'fine' , chris . . . . !
Hahaha . . . . . . I see this playing out just 'fine' , chris . . . . !
Richard Riel
@Chris Bond And only partly waived.
Chris Bond
@Graham Greene
Yes with Trudeau's approval rating falling of a cliff.
That is just fine with me.
Yes with Trudeau's approval rating falling of a cliff.
That is just fine with me.
David Amos
@Chris Bond Welcome to the Circus
Arlond Lynds
@Chris Bond
He is a busy man, the fact all you lot have to do is spread disinformation is not his problem. You usually have no trouble making it up so whats the problem or rush?
He is a busy man, the fact all you lot have to do is spread disinformation is not his problem. You usually have no trouble making it up so whats the problem or rush?
chris bowdler
First trudeau tries to fix the law for a “plea bargain”....but that failed.... now he is changing the penalty of 10 years embargo on government contracts to basically a slap on the hand....help is always on the way from trudeau if U are a Que based Organisation. Government, etc.
Bryan Doehler
@chris bowdler ".. now he is changing the penalty of 10 years embargo on government contracts to basically a slap on the hand.." - Do you have a source for that?
Bob Lashram
@Bryan Doehler ...it was reported yesterday...Chris is absolutely correct on this...Unfortunately, my attempt to point this out was not allowed...
Bryan Doehler
@Bob Lashram Where was it reported?, you can say that at least
patricia gibson
Stirling Malory Archer
@patricia gibson an opinion piece, nice...
Rick Poulter
@chris bowdler
Scheer would have done it better!
He would have made sure that the 2/3 of SNC-Lavalin employees that work outside Quebec lost their jobs too.
Scheer would have done it better!
He would have made sure that the 2/3 of SNC-Lavalin employees that work outside Quebec lost their jobs too.
David Amos
@Stirling Malory Archer Whose opinion?
David Amos
@Stirling Malory Archer FYI I figured it out and sent him an email
bill chagwich
the only way Canadians will move away from this mess is Trudeau needs to resign, the trust is gone
Stan Nova
@bill chagwich
Really? then where is no confidence vote? that's what i thought
Really? then where is no confidence vote? that's what i thought
Randall Johnson
@bill chagwich
Not true.
Many of us have jumped to conclusions, that's what happens when there is lots of missing information.
Same scenario for Liberals, Conservatives, NDP etc.
Time to relax & wait for Wilson-Raybould's testimony.
I suspect we will all learn something from this.
Not true.
Many of us have jumped to conclusions, that's what happens when there is lots of missing information.
Same scenario for Liberals, Conservatives, NDP etc.
Time to relax & wait for Wilson-Raybould's testimony.
I suspect we will all learn something from this.
Jono Fullerton
@Stan Nova what's the point of a confidence motion in a Liberal majority house? Look at the results when Scheer motioned for an investigation, it was Liberals vs the truth, and the Liberals won.
What is needed is recall legislation, then the people of Canada could decide rather than these slimy politicians closing ranks around their embattled leader and his rat faced puppet master
What is needed is recall legislation, then the people of Canada could decide rather than these slimy politicians closing ranks around their embattled leader and his rat faced puppet master
Stacey Bindman
@bill chagwich
Sadly, Trudeau's resigning will NEVER happen.......
Sadly, Trudeau's resigning will NEVER happen.......
David Amos
@Randall Johnson "I suspect we will all learn something from this."
Why wait? Why not follow the clues I have been giving everyone?
Why wait? Why not follow the clues I have been giving everyone?
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David Amos
@Randall Johnson Trust that Gerald Butts, Andrew Scheer and everyone else who sits in opposition know that Jody Wilson-Raybould may have lost her mandate as Justice Minister because of her failings in Federal Court and the Federal Court of Appeal within my lawsuit against the Crown that was filed when Harper was the Prime Minister and Mr Scheer was the Speaker. Need I say that it irritated me big time when Jody appointed her Deputy Minister to the bench of Federal Court not long after I argued their minions in the Federal Court of Appeal?
Methinks anyone can check my work by simply Googling two names "Jody Wilson-Raybould David Raymond Amos" N'esy Pas?
Jimmy johnson
She still has a gag order on her that Trudeau reminded her of.......time to call in the RCMP on the liberals to find the "real" truth......
David Amos
@Jimmy johnson Good luck with the RCMP acting ethically
Wilson-Raybould says PMO restricting her ability to 'speak freely' at Justice committee Wednesday
Former attorney general has been granted broad waiver on cabinet confidence, solicitor-client privilege
Jody Wilson-Raybould wrote to the chair of the justice committee Tuesday evening to say that while she will agree to give testimony before MPs on Wednesday, she will not be able to speak freely because of constraints that still exist around what she can and can't talk about.
The former justice minister had obtained a broad waiver from the Prime Minister's Office that allows her to disclose details of her conversations with government officials about the prosecution of SCN Lavalin, a Montreal-based global engineering and construction company.
In an Order in Council (OIC) posted online, the government said Wilson-Raybould — "and any persons who directly participated in discussions with her relating to the exercise of her authority under the Director of Public Prosecutions Act respecting the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin" — can report to the committee and to the federal ethics commissioner any cabinet confidences "in any information or communications that were directly discussed with her respecting the exercise of that authority while she held that office."
But in the letter to Anthony Housefather, Wilson-Raybould said those parameters will not allow her to "speak freely."
"The OIC addresses only my time as attorney general of Canada and therefore does nothing to release me from any restrictions that apply to communications while I served as minister of veterans affairs and in relation to my resignation from that post or my presentation to cabinet after I had resigned," she said in the letter.
"I mention this simply to alert the committee to the fact that the Order in Council leaves in place whatever restraints there are on my ability to speak freely about matters that occurred after I left the post of attorney general."
On Monday, Wilson-Raybould wrote the committee saying she is "anxious" to appear, and sought permission to deliver a 30-minute opening statement instead of the usual five to 10 minutes, a request which has been granted by the committee.
Politics News
Trudeau pleased that Wilson-Raybould will share her story
"It's important that people get an opportunity to testify, or share their point of view, at committee," Trudeau told reporters as he headed into the weekly Liberal cabinet meeting.
"As we said, waiving privilege, waiving cabinet confidentiality is something that we had to take very seriously, but I'm pleased that Ms. Wilson-Raybould is going to be able to share her perspectives."
Politics News
Lametti outlines process for waiving privilege
The OIC waived cabinet confidence and solicitor-client privilege for Wilson-Raybould in her conversations with the justice committee and the ethics commissioner. The waiver does not cover communications between Wilson-Raybould and the director of public prosecutions — a limit imposed to "uphold the integrity of any criminal or civil proceedings," according to the text of the order.
Justice Minister and Attorney General David Lametti said the order achieves two objectives.
"What we were doing is establishing a process that's fair and open and allows transparency but still protects the very principles that we want to protect in the legal system, as well as not interfering with ongoing litigation," he said.
Lametti confirmed there were "contacts" between lawyers, but would not say whether he was talking about discussions between government lawyers and Wilson-Raybould's counsel — retired Supreme Court justice Thomas Cromwell.
The justice committee is examining the growing controversy touched off by a Feb. 7 Globe and Mail report that said Trudeau's aides attempted to press Wilson-Raybould to intervene in the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin to help the company avoid criminal prosecution on bribery charges related to contracts in Libya.
Power and Politics
Justice committee chair looks ahead to JWR testimony
Wilson-Raybould resigned from cabinet on Feb. 12, and has remained silent on the matter, insisting she's still bound by solicitor-client confidentiality from her time as attorney general.
"I understand fully that Canadians want to know the truth and want transparency," she told the House of Commons last week. "Privilege and confidentiality are not mine to waive, and I hope that I have the opportunity to speak my truth."
Housefather said he believes all of Wilson-Raybould's previous concerns have now been addressed and she will now have the opportunity to give her account of events.
"I think she now can tell her side of the story. With 30 minutes, I think she'll have ample time to do so and I look forward to hearing from her, as I know the other committee members do," he said.
Conservative justice critic and deputy leader Lisa Raitt will press Wilson-Raybould on what happened in various meetings and whether she engaged in any discussions that were, in her opinion, inappropriate. But she said the big unanswered question is what prompted Wilson-Raybould to resign.
"What was it either in what Mr. Lametti said, or in what the prime minister said, that caused her to realize she didn't have the confidence of the cabinet any longer and she had to remove herself from cabinet solidarity?" Raitt said. "Because that's what she did and it's a big deal."
NDP MP Nathan Cullen said Wilson-Raybould's testimony will be "pivotal" and the committee probe must expand to call on testimony from officials in the PMO, including Trudeau's chief of staff Katie Telford and his former principal secretary Gerry Butts.
"It's a typical scandal. First they deny anything's here, then they admit the thing happened but the thing's not important. Then one by one the accusations become verified, and we need to hear from the principal actors," he said.
"I understand fully that Canadians want to know the truth and want transparency," she told the House of Commons last week. "Privilege and confidentiality are not mine to waive, and I hope that I have the opportunity to speak my truth."
Housefather said he believes all of Wilson-Raybould's previous concerns have now been addressed and she will now have the opportunity to give her account of events.
"I think she now can tell her side of the story. With 30 minutes, I think she'll have ample time to do so and I look forward to hearing from her, as I know the other committee members do," he said.
Why did she resign?
Conservative justice critic and deputy leader Lisa Raitt will press Wilson-Raybould on what happened in various meetings and whether she engaged in any discussions that were, in her opinion, inappropriate. But she said the big unanswered question is what prompted Wilson-Raybould to resign.
"What was it either in what Mr. Lametti said, or in what the prime minister said, that caused her to realize she didn't have the confidence of the cabinet any longer and she had to remove herself from cabinet solidarity?" Raitt said. "Because that's what she did and it's a big deal."
NDP MP Nathan Cullen said Wilson-Raybould's testimony will be "pivotal" and the committee probe must expand to call on testimony from officials in the PMO, including Trudeau's chief of staff Katie Telford and his former principal secretary Gerry Butts.
"It's a typical scandal. First they deny anything's here, then they admit the thing happened but the thing's not important. Then one by one the accusations become verified, and we need to hear from the principal actors," he said.