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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ambulance-new-brunswick-bilingual-staffing-1.4984352
David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@David R. Amos "Pothier said it's too early to implement that because "I don't think 'relevant bilingual positions' has been defined at this point."
Methinks Pothier's latest bilingual position will become irrelevant to NB Taxpayers if Higgs start ripping up contracts N'esy Pas?
Blaine Higgs promises to try to scrap Medavie deal if elected premier
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/blaine-higgs-break-medavie-contract-extra-mural-1.4396154
Medavie contract still secret, despite Liberal vow of quick release
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/medavie-deal-contracts-1.4470434
Province can cancel Medavie deal — at $1M cost to taxpayers
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/medavie-contract-telecare-extramural-care-1.4478090
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks Bernard Lord's spokesperson Chisholm Pothier has lots to say today about the doings of government. I bet the SANB lawyers recall the last day he spoke for the government N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/01/new-ambulance-new-brunswick-policy-lets.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ambulance-new-brunswick-bilingual-staffing-1.4984352
New Ambulance New Brunswick policy lets unilingual paramedics stay on for now
Jobs for which bilingual paramedics can't be found won't have to be reposted every 8 weeks
New Ambulance New Brunswick policy lets unilingual paramedics stay on for now
Ambulance New Brunswick says it's implementing a directive from the Blaine Higgs government on language-based hiring of paramedics.
Medavie, which runs the ambulance system, has frozen the re-posting of vacant bilingual positions every eight weeks, something Health Minister Ted Flemming ordered on Dec. 18, said spokesperson Chisholm Pothier.
That was one of the recommendations in a labour board ruling last year by arbitrator John McEvoy, who said the repeated re-posting of vacant bilingual positions was interfering with the seniority rights of the unionized paramedics.
It's a significant move because deputy premier Robert Gauvin suggested before Christmas that Medavie was trying to "delay … as long as possible" the implementation of the McEvoy ruling pending the outcome of a court hearing next week.
The judicial review will determine if McEvoy's recommendations comply with the Official Languages Act.
Ambulance New Brunswick requires at least one paramedic in each two-person ambulance crew to be bilingual to comply with the law.
When no bilingual candidate has been available to fill a vacancy, the organization has temporarily hired unilingual paramedics for eight weeks at a time, then has re-posted the positions.
A unilingual paramedic will now be able to stay in a position indefinitely, until a qualified bilingual applicant comes along.
Higgs and People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin have claimed the inability to fill vacant bilingual positions has led to ambulances not being on the road, something Medavie has said is not true.
Pothier said so far, Ambulance New Brunswick has not adopted the province's suggestion of reducing bilingual requirements in areas where the government feels there is less demand for second-language service — another of McEvoy's recommendations.
Part of Flemming's Dec. 18 directive was to hire paramedics based on seniority for what he called "non-relevant bilingual positions."
Pothier said it's too early to implement that because "I don't think 'relevant bilingual positions' has been defined at this point."
He said Ambulance New Brunswick plans to review how much demand there is for bilingual service but only after it has established a new separate service for transporting patients from hospital to hospital.
The service won't require bilingual paramedics because the language choice of the patient will be registered in advance. That, in turn, will allow Ambulance New Brunswick to hire 40 full-time unilingual paramedics, lessening the need for as many bilingual staff.
That system should be in place by the end of March, Pothier said.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and PracticesMedavie, which runs the ambulance system, has frozen the re-posting of vacant bilingual positions every eight weeks, something Health Minister Ted Flemming ordered on Dec. 18, said spokesperson Chisholm Pothier.
That was one of the recommendations in a labour board ruling last year by arbitrator John McEvoy, who said the repeated re-posting of vacant bilingual positions was interfering with the seniority rights of the unionized paramedics.
It's a significant move because deputy premier Robert Gauvin suggested before Christmas that Medavie was trying to "delay … as long as possible" the implementation of the McEvoy ruling pending the outcome of a court hearing next week.
Ambulance New Brunswick requires at least one paramedic in each two-person ambulance crew to be bilingual to comply with the law.
When no bilingual candidate has been available to fill a vacancy, the organization has temporarily hired unilingual paramedics for eight weeks at a time, then has re-posted the positions.
A unilingual paramedic will now be able to stay in a position indefinitely, until a qualified bilingual applicant comes along.
Higgs and People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin have claimed the inability to fill vacant bilingual positions has led to ambulances not being on the road, something Medavie has said is not true.
Pothier said so far, Ambulance New Brunswick has not adopted the province's suggestion of reducing bilingual requirements in areas where the government feels there is less demand for second-language service — another of McEvoy's recommendations.
Part of Flemming's Dec. 18 directive was to hire paramedics based on seniority for what he called "non-relevant bilingual positions."
He said Ambulance New Brunswick plans to review how much demand there is for bilingual service but only after it has established a new separate service for transporting patients from hospital to hospital.
The service won't require bilingual paramedics because the language choice of the patient will be registered in advance. That, in turn, will allow Ambulance New Brunswick to hire 40 full-time unilingual paramedics, lessening the need for as many bilingual staff.
That system should be in place by the end of March, Pothier said.
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David R. Amos
David R. Amos
@David R. Amos "Pothier said it's too early to implement that because "I don't think 'relevant bilingual positions' has been defined at this point."
Methinks Pothier's latest bilingual position will become irrelevant to NB Taxpayers if Higgs start ripping up contracts N'esy Pas?
Blaine Higgs promises to try to scrap Medavie deal if elected premier
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/blaine-higgs-break-medavie-contract-extra-mural-1.4396154
Medavie contract still secret, despite Liberal vow of quick release
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/medavie-deal-contracts-1.4470434
Province can cancel Medavie deal — at $1M cost to taxpayers
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/medavie-contract-telecare-extramural-care-1.4478090
daryl doucette
I still do not get it about this silly " bilingual" requirement for paramedics here in New Brunswick. Every one here speaks english, so why bother having a bilingual requirement?
David R. Amos
@daryl doucette Methinks the PANB supporters would agree that you are not alone in that opinion much to the chagrin of the SANB N'esy Pas?
Chuck Michaels
Remember that when they say "Unilingual" that this also includes the Francophone Paramedics in the North who speak only French who are in bilingual-designated positions. Although the number may be smaller, this is an issue that concerns ALL of us together no matter what the language.
David R. Amos
@Chuck Michaels True
Marguerite Deschamps
@Chuck Michaels, Really? After I read here all along that most Francophones were bilingual.
Chuck Michaels
@Marguerite Deschamps - Kind of like some of our neighbours to the South... "Ev'ry one speaks American if'n ya talks slowly and loud enuf!" (Kidding of course... mostly)
David R. Amos
@Chuck Michaels Methinks Maggie is gonna love dicing with you N'esy Pas?
daryl doucette
@Chuck Michaels yes that is true....but what they should do is offer those 3 people free English language training.....
David R. Amos
Methinks the political spin doctors are playing with fire on this topic The many comments on this topic for months should prove that most folks be they French or English could give two hoots as to what language is spoken by the people working for Ambulance NB as long as they get to the hospital as quick as possible. This French versus English rhetoric raised the ire of many people and split the province in half in the last election and gave 6 seats to two wannabe kingmakers. The next election after Mr Higg's budget no doubt fails the stress test is gonna be a dilly N'esy Pas?Lou Bell
Nice to finally see someone to represent Anglophones at the Ambulance NB hearings ! For over 50 year s they've been represented BY NO ONE !! SANB has had their people put in place by government for decades, with no representatives for NB Anglophones ! Problem is , even the judges are SANB plants !
David R. Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks everybody knows your hero Harper appointed most of the judges now sitting on the benches throughout Canada after he had politically vetted them N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
@Lou Bell "You may have some good ideas like others, but as per who you are , what/who you represent , no one knows or cares. Time to ditch the ego"
Methinks the same could be said of you However I have never seen your name on a ballot or in a lawsuit against the Crown N'esy Pas?
Methinks the same could be said of you However I have never seen your name on a ballot or in a lawsuit against the Crown N'esy Pas?
George Smith
@ David R. Amos
@George Smith Methinks if you want things done right you should do it yourself Hence why not run for public office as an Independent just like I often do N'esy Pas?
A well known union official says he could get me elected to city council. I told him that at 70 I couldn't handle the workload.
@George Smith Methinks if you want things done right you should do it yourself Hence why not run for public office as an Independent just like I often do N'esy Pas?
A well known union official says he could get me elected to city council. I told him that at 70 I couldn't handle the workload.
David R. Amos
@George Smith Methinks you are younger than Trump N'esy Pas?
Chuck Michaels
@David R. Amos - touche!
George Smith
@Matt Steele
"Sounds like a SANB idea ; so it should make the Liberals happy".
How is it possible to relate this policy to the Liberals. It's all on Higgs. I'm almost sorry that I didn't vote for Higgs, he has this one right unlike the former government.
"Sounds like a SANB idea ; so it should make the Liberals happy".
How is it possible to relate this policy to the Liberals. It's all on Higgs. I'm almost sorry that I didn't vote for Higgs, he has this one right unlike the former government.
David R. Amos
@George Smith Methinks if you want things done right you should do it yourself Hence why not run for public office as an Independent just like I often do N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
@David R. Amos You represent only yourself. Them people never get anywhere. Take a look at your support. You had none. You may have some good ideas like others, but as per who you are , what/who you represent , no one knows or cares. Time to ditch the ego.
George Smith
This is a good policy for those in need of medical help as they can be assured that no matter what the language lifesaving services will be provided with as rapid a response as is possible. How in the world is that wrong? As for training paramedics in another language when would they have the time? You can't force them to give up their time off as they need relief from very stressful work.
Roland Godin
@George Smith
While on wait time a little effort multiplies...et voilà.
While on wait time a little effort multiplies...et voilà.
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David R. Amos
@Roland Godin Methinks everybody knows the last time I was forced by the RCMP to visit the DECH in Fat Fred City the immigrant shrinks didn't get paid because I don't have a Health Care Card N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
@Roland Godin Methinks when one does not have a Health Care Card wait times are irrelevant. Hence I will just wait until I keel over then call the ambulance and for obvious reasons I won't care what lingo the EMT speaks N'esy Pas?
Anne Bérubé
So, let me get this straight...is once you arrive at the ER, does your emergency physician have to learn your language before he is allowed to treat you? Also if you are travelling to another country for a vacation (or business) and need care, what will you do then? I, for one, do not care if the doctor or paramedic talk German (or whatever) I would want to be looked after. Dah!
Roland Godin
@Anne Bérubé
Had the pleasure visiting a country for 21 days and learn a word of their language per day and on other occasions spend a bit of time learning the basics of the language of countries where I travelled, and yes I can laugh in all the languages of the world...et voilà.
Had the pleasure visiting a country for 21 days and learn a word of their language per day and on other occasions spend a bit of time learning the basics of the language of countries where I travelled, and yes I can laugh in all the languages of the world...et voilà.
David R. Amos
@Roland Godin Methinks many folks would agree that you know as many people as you know languages However in your case it appears that folks of many languages know what to think about you N'esy Pas?
eddy watts
OMG....some common sense (for a change) from politicians: Well done Ted.
Roland Godin
@eddy watts
Having my common cents pay for you all I suppose some would call it common sense...eh!
Having my common cents pay for you all I suppose some would call it common sense...eh!
David R. Amos
@eddy watts Methinks Ted is just another lawyer playing politics as usual After all he was appointed to be the Minister of Health as soon as he won the by-election in 2012 He could have done a lot more then N'esy Pas?
Robert Levesque
I think the health of NB citizens should be most important. Anyone can learn a few key phrases in both languages on the job and help anyone in an emergency. Language should not be a barrier to employment and certainly not to provide an essential service.
Evelyn Gaudreau
@Robert Levesque Bilingualism is a skill, a professional skill, and like any other professional skill it can be learned.
Brian Robertson
@Evelyn Gaudreau
Certainly, it can be learned.
The issue is should it be mandated by a government upon it's citizens, by restricting employment opportunities; especially when there technological solutions that fully address the need.
Certainly, it can be learned.
The issue is should it be mandated by a government upon it's citizens, by restricting employment opportunities; especially when there technological solutions that fully address the need.
David R. Amos
@Robert Levesque I wholeheartedly agree sir.
Matt Steele
Certainly not much in the way of job security for the unilingual paramedics . They will be allowed to have a job until a bilingual person wants it ; then they will be fired and replaced regardless of how much experience that the paramedic has . Seems that language is more important than skill . Sounds like a SANB idea ; so it should make the Liberals happy .
eddy watts
@Matt Steele you're argument is with unions in general and (the value/or lack of) seniority, not about language.
Evelyn Gaudreau
@Matt Steele or until they themselves become bilingual...
David R. Amos
@Matt Steele Methinks you tell that to all the Conservatives N'esy Pas?
David Stairs
the Language Police need to quit the B.S...the bottom line for medical help for a distressed person is to get medical help...the distressed person cares nothing about language used by the first responders..all they hear are the sirens and see flashing lights and I'm surprised that those do not have to be developed and produced by the Language Police...get over yourself...
daryl doucette
@David Stairs yeah baby!
Roland Godin
@David Stairs
And if it is not important why are some making such a big fuss about it...EH!
And if it is not important why are some making such a big fuss about it...EH!
David R. Amos
@David Stairs YUP
David R. Amos
@Roland Godin "And if it is not important why are some making such a big fuss about it...EH!"
Methinks its called politicking N'esy Pas?
Methinks its called politicking N'esy Pas?
Paul Bourgoin
Premier Blaine Higgs claims the inability to fill vacant bilingual positions has led to ambulances not being on the road. YA! RIGHT!! The more it changes the more it remains the same!!
David R. Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Or in other words
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose N'esy Pas?
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose N'esy Pas?
Roland Godin
Politicians need a basic introductory session on the essence of a law and it’s objects to deal with these issues, as legislators, from a rational with insight and discernment perspective...et voilà.
David R. Amos
@Roland Godin Methinks I did that when I filed my lawsuit in 2015 while running in Fundy Royal for a seat in the 42nd Parliament. I have no doubt Premier Higgs, his Ministers, Wilson, Oliver, Holland, Flemming and Wetmore and the back-benchers Crossman and Northrup voted for their lawyer buddy Rob Moore N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
I can see the next election being along linguistic lines. Government created it , they're gonna have to live with it ! There'll be those who vote for the dog, those who vote for the tail. I suspect those voting for the tail are gonna lose.
Roland Godin
@Lou Bell
Pouvez-vous traduire s’il vous plaît ou l’ecrire en English (UK)...eh!
Pouvez-vous traduire s’il vous plaît ou l’ecrire en English (UK)...eh!
David R. Amos
@Roland Godin So you say N'esy Pas?
Roger Richard
@Lou Bell What is dog and tail make reference too?
Roger Richard
@Lou Bell French is difficult to understand but English is also. It is very easy to misunderstand each other.
Anne Bérubé
@Roger Richard Well, I am no doctor or paramedic, but common sense tells me that the vital signs tell the first responders what is wrong with the injured/sick person here, it is no brainer (literally). The hell with the language, most are unconscious anyhow, are they not?
David R. Amos
@Roger Richard "What is dog and tail make reference too?"
BonJour mon ami
Methinks Austin is the tail who is wagging the dog named Higgs N'esy Pas?
BonJour mon ami
Methinks Austin is the tail who is wagging the dog named Higgs N'esy Pas?
Roger Richard
@Anne Bérubé I certainly agree that language is not the biggest issue in an emergency. I now understand that it is like the tail is wagging the dog. Thank you Mr. Amos for the clarification. I would like to add that this issue about bilingualism is a politician and lawyer problem. Our province has more pressing problems that are ignored.
Les Cooper
How about the next election everyone vote for the English guy.
People of Canada voted a prime minister in for legalizing marijuana. That seems to be more F'ed.Up!
People of Canada voted a prime minister in for legalizing marijuana. That seems to be more F'ed.Up!
David R. Amos
@Les Cooper Methinks everybody knows that English politicians are no better than French politicians Thats why so many folks don't bother to vote N'esy Pas?
Anne Bérubé
@David R. Amos I say, both equally incompetent!
Paul Bourgoin
We are not handling nor discriminating against English or French but are serving a bilingual province whose citizens have decided decades ago that New Brunswick residents have the legislated civil and human rights to be served in the language of their choice English or French. So why does government, in the press trying to erase an accepted legislated practice. Maybe the Crown should study incentive subsidies and giving property tax breaks to Rich Corporations. New Brunswick is poor province!
Brian Robertson
@Paul Bourgoin
Services in either language can now be provided through real time translation.
That is good enough.
The gravy train has run out of steam.
End of.
Services in either language can now be provided through real time translation.
That is good enough.
The gravy train has run out of steam.
End of.
Paul Bourgoin
@Brian Robertson
No not really ! The cash gravy is only served at one table and the surplus is stored in offshore refrigerators and the balance is subsidized to those sitting at the table! Lots of Gravy but miss-deposited!
No not really ! The cash gravy is only served at one table and the surplus is stored in offshore refrigerators and the balance is subsidized to those sitting at the table! Lots of Gravy but miss-deposited!
David R. Amos
@Paul Bourgoin "whose citizens have decided decades ago that New Brunswick residents have the legislated civil and human rights to be served in the language of their choice English or French."
Nope
Methinks you know as well as I that Hatfield decided it all by himself in order to court the French vote. He had to get Trudeau the Elder to put it in the Federal Charter because New Brunswick does not have its own Constitution N'esyPas?
Nope
Methinks you know as well as I that Hatfield decided it all by himself in order to court the French vote. He had to get Trudeau the Elder to put it in the Federal Charter because New Brunswick does not have its own Constitution N'esyPas?
David R. Amos
@Brian Robertson "The gravy train has run out of steam. "
YUP
YUP
Fred Brewer
@Paul Bourgoin
"whose citizens have decided decades ago ... to be served in the language of their choice English or French. "
Say What??? So the citizens had a referendum on this? When was that? Please show me the proof of your statement.
"whose citizens have decided decades ago ... to be served in the language of their choice English or French. "
Say What??? So the citizens had a referendum on this? When was that? Please show me the proof of your statement.
Paul Bourgoin
@David R. Amos
I believe you forgot the true author, your friend's driving influence in this matter the Late Honorable Minister, Jean-Maurice Simard!! : -)
I believe you forgot the true author, your friend's driving influence in this matter the Late Honorable Minister, Jean-Maurice Simard!! : -)
Les Cooper
@Paul Bourgoin The citizens of NB were lied to and tricked into bilingualism. No one ever wanted it. Why do u think no other province went Bilingual. They see the diaster in NB keeping province from succeeding. It's been 50 + years. Time for a change!
Roland Godin
@Les Cooper
Frustrated because some can't pay their share, whatever having all the jobs we will pay for you all, worry pas...et voilà.
Frustrated because some can't pay their share, whatever having all the jobs we will pay for you all, worry pas...et voilà.
David R. Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Methinks everybody knows when its comes to politicking nobody has any friends N'esy Pas?
Brian Robertson
The whole issue of communication can be addressed by technology.
That is all that is required by any honest interpretation of the law.
If that is insufficient to some, then their motivation is more one of propagation and growth of French; which is NOT necessary, required nor to the majority's benefit.
That is all that is required by any honest interpretation of the law.
If that is insufficient to some, then their motivation is more one of propagation and growth of French; which is NOT necessary, required nor to the majority's benefit.
Rosco holt
@Brian Robertson
You're ok with a francophone using technology when they serve you, even in a time of emergency.
You're ok with a francophone using technology when they serve you, even in a time of emergency.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Rosco holt, of course, he is. He just stated it.
David R. Amos
@Rosco holt Methinks common sense dictates that nobody should care Just get them to the hospital ASAP and try to keep them breathing as they dodge the potholes along the way.N'esy Pas?
Brian Robertson
@Rosco holt
In an emergency?
You're absolutely right I am OK with it.
But, given that a uni lingual francophone is a rarity, the chances of that happening are pretty remote.
In an emergency?
You're absolutely right I am OK with it.
But, given that a uni lingual francophone is a rarity, the chances of that happening are pretty remote.
Harold Benson
I don't care what you say, or how you say it, if you are trying to help me with my heart attack. Spasms and a purple face speak for themselves. Thank you for your service not matter what language you speak
Cory Kamermans
@Harold Benson Exactly.
David R. Amos
@Cory Kamermans YUP
Trevis L. Kingston
When the patient is unconscious... are they deemed Anglophone...or Francophone?
If we get sick in a non- English OR French speaking country … I guess...we'll just die?
No...we would be appreciative of ANYONES medical assistance.
We take our cars to a "non- dealer" for repairs...and usually they get fixed OK.
I would gladly accept medical help from ANY ambulance attendant...in any country!
If we get sick in a non- English OR French speaking country … I guess...we'll just die?
No...we would be appreciative of ANYONES medical assistance.
We take our cars to a "non- dealer" for repairs...and usually they get fixed OK.
I would gladly accept medical help from ANY ambulance attendant...in any country!
Jeff LeBlanc
@Trevis L. Kingston well said!
David R. Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc Its just common sense
Richard Dunn
It truly is refreshing to see adults running the province.
Nice to see so many common sense, and positive, decisions being made.
Nice to see so many common sense, and positive, decisions being made.
Rosco holt
@Richard Dunn
Wake me up when we actually have adults running government. All I see is spoiled children who have to resort to blackmail, when they don't get things their way.
Wake me up when we actually have adults running government. All I see is spoiled children who have to resort to blackmail, when they don't get things their way.
David R. Amos
@Rosco holt Me Too
Les Cooper
@Rosco holt This is why french and English are leaving province. And the high taxes we pay because everyone is moving away. I wonder what the taxes will be in 10 years?
Lou Bell
A life saved by a unilingual is worth a lot more than someone dying because no help was available because of language. I would think any morally adjusted person would agree.
Roland Godin
@Lou Bell
Thanks for accepting to be served in la langue officielle de mon choix...et voilà.
Thanks for accepting to be served in la langue officielle de mon choix...et voilà.
Colin Seeley
@Roland Godin
And that needs to be changed.
And that needs to be changed.
Lou Bell
@Roland Godin Yeah , just as long as you are in your own little circle. Otherwise , yer outta luck if you think it'll be in " language of your choice "! There's a whole big world out there, and you might take a look and realize that little circle you're in is like a pimple on an elephant's --s .
Marguerite Deschamps
@Lou Bell, talking about New Brunswick? - On a world scale, a pimple on an elephant is an understatement.
Roland Godin
@Lou Bell
So do I understand you prefer being served only in la langue officielle de votre choix...eh!
So do I understand you prefer being served only in la langue officielle de votre choix...eh!
David R. Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks that is what most of you Quebeckers think of us N'esy Pas?
Les Cooper
@Roland Godin what are u saying. Half in french
daryl doucette
Well well well common sense has finally reared its ugly head in this issue about bilingual paramedics. This should just about drive the French Language Commissioner off the deep end.
Lou Bell
@daryl doucette Last thing they'd wanna see is someone saved by an Anglophone !
Roland Godin
@Lou Bell
According to some an anglophone has to be unilingue...eh!
According to some an anglophone has to be unilingue...eh!
David R. Amos
@Roland Godin Methinks Maggie and Lou should get a room N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
@David R. Amos, separate rooms!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/n-b-premier-s-press-secretary-resigns-over-letter-leak-1.615046