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"Robert Gauvin, deputy premier and minister responsible for the Francophonie, called the news a chance to work together with federal and municipal governments as well as businesses. "We're fairly positive we'll do the best Games that we can," he said. "While it's surprising, again, there's still time to work together and come up with a plan."
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BTW The RCMP and legions of lawyers on both sides of the medicine line know that after I won some judgements in the US of A a lawyer working for the American Indian Movement asked for my assistance before I came home to run in the election of the 38th Parliament I bet you don't know why N'esy Pas?
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Dieppe Mayor Yvon Lapierre says he was shocked to learn the new estimated cost to host the 2021 Francophonie Games in his city and Moncton. (CBC)
The mayor of Dieppe says he was shocked to learn the cost of hosting the 2021 Francophonie Games in his city and neighbouring Moncton had grown from about $17 million to $130 million.
Mayor Yvon Lapierre said he understood the cost would be $17 to 19 million until Wednesday night. That's when someone from the province told him about the increase to $130 million, something he said left him "absolutely shocked by the amount."
Dieppe and Moncton are co-hosting the international sports and culture event, considered one of the largest in the francophone world.
Radio-Canada reported Thursday the organizing committee for the event submitted a funding request to the province for $130 million in April.
How to pay the bill is now a pressing question, Lapierre said.
"Obviously there will need to be some very serious discussions about the finances of this project," he said.
The province and the federal government had previously committed to split the cost of hosting the games equally.
The new Progressive Conservative government said Thursday there were no funds approved in the budget for the Games. The federal government said it would stick to the original commitment to fund half of the cost, leaving the other half to the province.
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Robert Gauvin, the province's deputy premier, says there's still time to come up with a plan to fund the Games and ensure they take place. (Radio Canada)Robert Gauvin, deputy premier and minister responsible for the Francophonie, called the news a chance to work together with federal and municipal governments as well as businesses.
"We're fairly positive we'll do the best Games that we can," he said. "While it's surprising, again, there's still time to work together and come up with a plan."
Lapierre said the city isn't prepared to consider increasing its funding commitment.
"Absolutely not," he said.
Dieppe and Moncton both committed to pay $750,000 as part of hosting the games.
Dieppe is also committed to covering one third of "legacy projects," the mayor said.
One example would be plans to add two soccer fields near the Collège communautaire du Nouveau-Brunswick campus, which he said carries an estimated $2.5-million price tag.
Lapierre doesn't think there's a risk of the Games not occurring.
"I doubt that the province of New Brunswick and government of Canada would want to face that embarrassment," he said.
The event is expected to draw more than 3,000 athletes and artists from around the world.
Eric Larocque is CEO of the organizing committee for the Moncton-Dieppe Francophonie Games. Yvon Lapierre is the Mayor of Dieppe. 12:14
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks Deputy Premier Robert Gauvin who is the minister responsible for the Francophonie has no plan whatsoever N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/12/methinks-deputy-premier-robert-gauvin.html
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/12/methinks-deputy-premier-robert-gauvin.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/francophonie-games-cost-reaction-dieppe-1.4935809
Dieppe mayor 'absolutely shocked' by ballooning Francophonie Games price
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Eric Fowler
Good thing that there is lots of time to cancel. 17 million dollars was too much, 130 million is insane. Let your M.P and M.L.A. know how you feel. No money for so many things, but lots of money for "games". This is crazy.
David Amos
@Eric Fowler Welcome to the Circus
Marguerite Deschamps
... here comes the clown!
Simeon Elliott
Time to pull a Calgary.....just say no to overpriced games.
daryl doucette
@Simeon Elliott exactly
David Amos
@Simeon Elliott YUP
Norman Albert Snr
@Simeon Elliott Champagne wishes on a min wage income. We need to get back to need taking presidence over luxury wants. No way can we afford such expensive extravagances. If we could afford it it would still be last on a wish list.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Norman Albert Snr, agreed! However many do not practice what they preach. I see processions of big + 60 grant SUV trucks they don't need idling while waiting to get their fix at the Tim Horton drive-through, many lot of them puffing on their $14 a pack cigarette.
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks even you Quebeckers must know that cigarettes are more than 14 loonies in the liberal idea of the "Place to Be" N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, honestly, I didn't know. I don't smoke; therefore I do not buy cigarettes. More than 14 $! Well, it's a shame some people still buy them.
Melanie Hooley
The planning committee should admit their mistake and back out of the games for all taxpayers sakes. Instead think about investing 17 million directly into the city where the citizens could benefit as a whole like the current housing crisis. Start building affordable housing apartments or subsidize housing for low income. As a tax paying member of this province we cannot afford to host an event at such an outrageous cost. Do the right thing! Back out!
David Amos
@Melanie Hooley Methinks Mr Higgs has faith that his French Lieutenant is gonna come up with a plan to make the Anglophones who voted for his party happy N'esy Pas?
@Melanie Hooley Methinks Mr Higgs has faith that his French Lieutenant is gonna come up with a plan to make the Anglophones who voted for his party happy N'esy Pas?
"Robert Gauvin, deputy premier and minister responsible for the Francophonie, called the news a chance to work together with federal and municipal governments as well as businesses. "We're fairly positive we'll do the best Games that we can," he said. "While it's surprising, again, there's still time to work together and come up with a plan."
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, worry pas, unilingual Anglophones can play.
Mario Doucet
Just think how far this money would go for the homeless or into hospital equipment.
David Amos
@Mario Doucet Methinks we should consider all the potholes that Minister Gauvin and his boss Mr Higgs don't consider worth fixing N'esy Pas?
Lloyd Joslin
I have to wait 13 months for eye surgery and we have money to waste on this?
David Amos
@Lloyd Joslin Methinks the SANB must be pacified N'esy Pas?
Jacques poirier
Let the organizers swallow their pride and admit this is a big mistake.This province is too far in debt and has cut too many needed services to justify spending that much money for games that are geared toward the elite athletes of the world.PULL OUT OF THIS FIASCO.The tax payers of this province have had enough!!!
David Amos
@Jacques poirier Methinks this dude may be embarrassed about stating the following N'esy Pas?
"Lapierre doesn't think there's a risk of the Games not occurring. "I doubt that the province of New Brunswick and government of Canada would want to face that embarrassment," he said. "
"Lapierre doesn't think there's a risk of the Games not occurring. "I doubt that the province of New Brunswick and government of Canada would want to face that embarrassment," he said. "
Edwin Kelley
The province can not afford this and provincially, taxpayers don't want to fund it. More important issues require funding. And forget the rhetoric about all the benefits. The business case fails.
David Amos
@Edwin Kelley Mais Oui
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, mais non!
Colin Seeley
Pull out.
Just like Calgary.
We cannot afford this.
Please do it ASAP.
Just like Calgary.
We cannot afford this.
Please do it ASAP.
Norman Albert Snr
@Colin Seeley Stupid is as stupid does. They will do this regardless of costs. Vanity!!!!
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr “My mom always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.”.
The folks who voted for Trudeau the Younger and his pals Mr Gallant and Mr Higgs now have the governments they deserve N'esy Pas?
The folks who voted for Trudeau the Younger and his pals Mr Gallant and Mr Higgs now have the governments they deserve N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, "Methinks" you have indulged in too much chocolate looking for what you're gonna get, n'est-ce pas?
Marc LeBlanc
Common sense tells you to allow for a 15-20% contingency when planning for an event such as this
How could anyone get this so wrong?
How could anyone get this so wrong?
Billy Hachey
@Marc LeBlanc "It's a 664 per cent increase. It's not just forgetting a small element of the project."
Marguerite Deschamps
@Billy Hachey, governments are so easy to hoodwink. Does Mactaquac, Pointe Lepreau, the Olympic Stadium ring a bell? - And if we keep digging, we will find many more. Trump does have a point about governments squandering money.
Marc Martin
@Marguerite Deschamps
*Trump *
Don't say that word you will attract Davis...
*Trump *
Don't say that word you will attract Davis...
Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc Martin, David should soon be here. I am the attraction. He is infatuated with me. Didn't you notice?
Marc Martin
@Marguerite Deschamps
What did you do to him ?
What did you do to him ?
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "David should soon be here. I am the attraction. He is infatuated with me."
Methinks the lady doth think far too much of herself N'esy Pas?
Methinks the lady doth think far too much of herself N'esy Pas?
Mack Leigh
@Marc LeBlanc
This whole thing smells like a setup.... Manipulation and conning at its' best..
This whole thing smells like a setup.... Manipulation and conning at its' best..
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, I am always a pretty well relaxed and laid back person. I still think you really like me.
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks the lady doth flatter herself far too much N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Maybe we could use some of that money so that the kids can play and have fun. Then put the rest of the money to better use.
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Cry me a river
Mack Leigh
@Marguerite Deschamps
Ah !! but nothing is too good for the Francophone Elite ! No matter who has to go without just as long as their unrealistic, unwarranted demands are met....
Ah !! but nothing is too good for the Francophone Elite ! No matter who has to go without just as long as their unrealistic, unwarranted demands are met....
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, should we take your comment to mean that this money should all go to waste?
Robert L. Brown
once again the Francophone community wants money from the 66% English community to fund their projects. When we have so much poverty in this province and so much provincial dept and the list could go on for the rest of the day we need to put New Brunswick first and forget all the groups that could not care for anyone except their own agenda
Marguerite Deschamps
@Robert L. Brown, you're paying nothing. We have all the jobs; remember?
Colin Seeley
@Robert L. Brown
Of course they do. It’s like Corporate Welfare on Steroids.
66% off your projects.
And still they complain.
Of course they do. It’s like Corporate Welfare on Steroids.
66% off your projects.
And still they complain.
Marc Martin
@Robert L. Brown
*once again the Francophone community wants money from the 66% English community *
You want money from my paycheck every week for your schools, museums and festivals what do you sugest ?
Maybe if we change the name to *Anglophone games* you would want it to be funded ?
*once again the Francophone community wants money from the 66% English community *
You want money from my paycheck every week for your schools, museums and festivals what do you sugest ?
Maybe if we change the name to *Anglophone games* you would want it to be funded ?
Colin Seeley
@Marguerite Deschamps
That was funny Maggie. Touché.
But Oh yes he is paying.
You have all the bilingual Govt jobs. You know the ones that drive your kids to schools and pick up our sick in Ambulances.
That was funny Maggie. Touché.
But Oh yes he is paying.
You have all the bilingual Govt jobs. You know the ones that drive your kids to schools and pick up our sick in Ambulances.
Colin Seeley
@Marc Martin
Anglo games are integrated!
Anglo games are integrated!
Marc Martin
@Colin Seeley
If we have all the government jobs then we pay all the taxes and should take all the decisions then right ?
If we have all the government jobs then we pay all the taxes and should take all the decisions then right ?
Robert L. Brown
@Marguerite Deschamps So no taxpayer money in this venture. I appropriate your sarcastic reply did you just get back from Cannabis NB?
Colin Seeley
@Marc Martin
You just said it all.
Out of the mouths of babes .
You just said it all.
Out of the mouths of babes .
Marc Martin
@Colin Seeley
Do you think Ontario paid their own games ?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/to2015-pan-am-games-within-2-4b-budget-ontario-says-1.3306622
Do you think Ontario paid their own games ?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/to2015-pan-am-games-within-2-4b-budget-ontario-says-1.3306622
Marc Bourque
@Robert L. Brown dont make this a language issue,use common sense will ya...
Marc Martin
@Robert L. Brown
*did you just get back from Cannabis NB?*
You look pretty much happy on your pic....just saying...
*did you just get back from Cannabis NB?*
You look pretty much happy on your pic....just saying...
Marguerite Deschamps
I don't like the lavish costs of these games any more than most of you do and also believe that they should be scrapped. But you can not have it both ways. At least if you were prepared to admit that less than 50% of government jobs require bilingual proficiency, you would be taken more seriously. Hence, we have all the jobs; you guys said it. Therefore, don't complain if you're on social assistance given that we're also paying for you.
daryl doucette
@Marc Martin whats next " the Korean games"? The " Syrian games"? The " African games"? The list could go on and on....it seems that one certain group in this area seems to never be satisfied unless they are " front and center" in the media in one form or another....either " complaining" or " celebrating"......
Marguerite Deschamps
@daryl doucette, what would be your reaction if your Special Olympics games were cancelled?
Marc Martin
@Marguerite Deschamps
well said...
well said...
Marc Martin
@daryl doucette
I am all for canceling it, but when you make it a language issue your opening a can of worms buddy.
I am all for canceling it, but when you make it a language issue your opening a can of worms buddy.
daryl doucette
@Marc Martin the " can of worms" that you refer to was opened a long time ago " buddy". Reasonable people of BOTH linguistic communities here are sick and tired of the CONSTANT whining and complaining re language " rights" that negatively affect the majority of unilingual taxpayers in this province.
reginald churchill
@daryl doucette ----------excellent right to the point
daryl doucette
@Marguerite Deschamps heh heh you funny
daryl doucette
@reginald churchill thank you.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc Martin, either you're retired like me or you are unemployed for continuously posting on here 24/7. Otherwise, you would be on the pick and shovel.
Colin Seeley
@Marc Martin
Weak Canard.
And you would know the Ontario games were for all cultures.
Weak Canard.
And you would know the Ontario games were for all cultures.
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "you're paying nothing. We have all the jobs; remember?"
WOW
WOW
David Amos
@Marc Martin "If we have all the government jobs then we pay all the taxes and should take all the decisions then right ?"
Methinks you should confer with your lawyers first N'esy Pas?
Methinks you should confer with your lawyers first N'esy Pas?
Robert L. Brown
"I doubt that the province of New Brunswick and government of Canada would want to face that embarrassment," yet Yvon Lapierre does not want The hub of Francophone in southern New Brunswick to pay. The embarrassment is Him.
Marc Martin
@Robert L. Brown
Cry me a river...
Cry me a river...
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin sounding like someone else with that saying.
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre
Who cares...
Who cares...
Marguerite Deschamps
@Marc Martin, alas! If only Charlie Van Horne was still around. He cared!
Bernard McIntyre
@Marguerite Deschamps Lots of people care. Just not the people who are in the governent.
David Amos
@Bernard McIntyre YUP
Marc Bourque
130,000,000 think of how many, much needed doctors and nurses,whose education can be paid for and used in this province!!! Priorities has to be set right
Marc Martin
@Marc Bourque
*much needed doctors *
If the universities would stop taking outside immigrant to fill out New Brunswick student spots we would not have this problem...
*much needed doctors *
If the universities would stop taking outside immigrant to fill out New Brunswick student spots we would not have this problem...
Rick Dee
@Marc Martin International students is actually what's keeping them going (higher rates). Without them, we'd have a much bigger problem.
Marc Martin
@Rick Dee
We have a huge problem right now, we have no doctors because we train doctors that DONT STAY IN CANADA.
We have a huge problem right now, we have no doctors because we train doctors that DONT STAY IN CANADA.
Tim Raworth
@Marc Martin Because we cant afford to pay them. No wonder why.
Edwin Kelley
@Marc Martin Mr.Martin you are showing your true colors. I doubt if any New Brunswick student is denied a university position due to an immigrant. Your opinions just became irrelevant. Reap just what you sow.
cheryl wright
@Marc Martin bigotry comes in all forms. seems you are not as perfect as you might think you are. how are those immigrated students to feel about this comment. shame on you
David Amos
@cheryl wright Methinks in order to feel shame one must be first blessed with a conscience N'esy Pas?
Stephen Wood
If they cannot be up front and honest about the cost , then they do not deserve to have the money or the games. Enough is enough .Corrupt, misinformed , misrepresented Bidding . throw the whole thing OUT and cancel the games. NB needs basic services for its people not games.
Marc Martin
@Stephen Wood
I got to give you this you didn't make it a language issue. so it makes sense what you said.
I got to give you this you didn't make it a language issue. so it makes sense what you said.
Dianne MacPherson
@Marc Martin
It's NOT a "language issue"
it's COMMON SENSE !!!!!
It's NOT a "language issue"
it's COMMON SENSE !!!!!
David Amos
@Dianne MacPherson Methinks Mr Martin and his hero the former President of SANB Kevin Arseneau have already proven that they have no idea what common sense is N'esy Pas?
@Dianne MacPherson, for some on here, they always make it a language issue harping this issue to death 24/7. Just wondering where they find the time to get any work done.
John Haigh
This is asinine & it doesn't matter what language the games are celebrating.
David Amos
@John Haigh I agree
This reeks of pigs at a trough and incompetence. Pull the plug on this frivolous expense before we set a path to keep New Brunswick in the poor house forever.
David Amos
@ Methinks many folks are no doubt as curious as I as to who you are N'esy Pas?
daryl doucette
Very easy solution to this " dilemma" re the " Francophonie Games" re this monstrous price tag. JUST CANCEL THEM. Let Quebec host the games...they have lots of extra cash floating around obviously...the province of New Brunswick is broke. Why cant these politicians understand that we simply cannot afford extravagances like this? Just for a 2 week glorified track and field event and a big party? Calgary " got it right" re the Olympics, the public is getting fed up with being taxed to death. Enough is enough.
David Amos
@daryl doucette I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Richard Dunn
$130 Million!!! We cannot afford this extravagance. Cancel the bid and move on.
The larger question is who was asleep at the wheel to allow this bid to proceed without even having a business plan? Absolute insanity! The mayors of Moncton and Dieppe, Brian Gallant and others need to answer for this error. Who is protecting the taxpayers?
And who is this Eric LaRoque guy, what are his qualifications and who does he report to?
The larger question is who was asleep at the wheel to allow this bid to proceed without even having a business plan? Absolute insanity! The mayors of Moncton and Dieppe, Brian Gallant and others need to answer for this error. Who is protecting the taxpayers?
And who is this Eric LaRoque guy, what are his qualifications and who does he report to?
David Amos
@Richard Dunn "who is this Eric LaRoque guy, what are his qualifications and who does he report to?"
Good question
Good question
cheryl wright
the province cannot afford this; I cant afford this as a taxpayer.. our water bills are increasing, our property taxes are increasing, gas increasing etc... if I have to fork money over for this frivolous party of 3000 people I want to join. I want free drink and free meals and someone to rub my feet at the end of every day. NO?? Im not francophone?? cancel it!!! I think numbers speak volumes in this day and age and we should all meet at the legislature and say NO to this circus!
daryl doucette
@Marc Martin yes they should stop funding ALL these " games" in Canada until all the bills are paid for ESSENTIALS
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@daryl doucette Methinks whereas you appear to be arguing a ghost Mr Martin must be testing CBC's ethics bigtime today before I entered the fray within this comment section N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Marc Martin Hmmm
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, what did Marc Martin state. Did you flag his post again?
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@Marguerite Deschamps The Crown knows that I believe in Free Speech but not libel. However I i NEVER flagged anyone's comment EVER Methinks you cannot not say the same N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks no doubt you and Mr Martin know as well as I that it is I who has been blocked twice thus far within this thread N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@David Amos BTW I have never flagged anyone ever
Marguerite Deschamps
Higg's French lieutenant wants the games to go on. Higgs better take heed! He has one foot out of the Premier's officer and the other one on a banana peel.
Wendy Staples
@Marguerite Deschamps , in your dreams...
Marguerite Deschamps
The gloves will soon come off with Austin and his clique vs Gauvin while Higgs will get stuck in the middle. Let the games begin!
Marc Martin
@Marguerite Deschamps
Its about to explode, I agree.
Its about to explode, I agree.
Dianne MacPherson
@Marguerite Deschamps
Gosh....you do have a 'hate' on
for this Province !!!!
Gosh....you do have a 'hate' on
for this Province !!!!
Marguerite Deschamps
@Dianne MacPherson, talk for yourself lady@
Marguerite Deschamps
@Dianne MacPherson, more your hatred for anything French. And don't tell me I hate anything English given that I speak and write it better than you.
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "Higg's French lieutenant wants the games to go on. "
Methinks I should consider copyrighting my expressions N'esy Pas?
Methinks I should consider copyrighting my expressions N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, you think you invented the expression "French lieutenant"? - You are giving yourself too much credit. I am just waiting to see if Gauvin will get to be more known as Judah Iscariot.
Dianne MacPherson
@Marguerite Deschamps
And a nasty 'piece of work', besides !!!!
And a nasty 'piece of work', besides !!!!
Bernard McIntyre
I don't care if it's the Francophonie games or the Olympics. The price of hold any sporting event is getting ridiculous and soon if the sporting committees do get the act together soon there probably no place will be hosting any sporting event anywhere.
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre
I agree with you, you make sense when you don't make it a French issue.
I agree with you, you make sense when you don't make it a French issue.
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin I'm not on side or the other. I try to be on everyones side.
David Amos
@Bernard McIntyre Methinks a person who tries to be a friend of everyone winds up being a friend of none N'esy Pas?
Roy Kirk
I'm sure it's not the first time someone made a low-ball bid for something funded by government, only to present a much bigger bill once the commitment was made. If you don't want such behavior in the future you must punish it in the present. And the best way to do that is have the feds and the province give them $10 million each, and no more.
David Amos
@Roy Kirk Good idea
Marguerite Deschamps
Roger that!
Mario Doucet
No price is too high when it comes to the French culture.
Marc LeBlanc
@Mario Doucet This has nothing to do with french culture.It's all about gross incompetence on behalf of those responsible for the process that led to this massive cluster &$#%.A 600% increase is inconceivable.Trying to justify continuing with the games is lunacy.Higgs and Austin will be seen as anti-French,then so be it.i want a government that lives within it's means.....like the rest of us
daryl doucette
@Mario Doucet you nailed it.
Marc Bourque
@Mario Doucet I have to disagree with you on that point.This is a sporting event,there are trouble makers on both sides of the language issue.Iam not one of them I dont and cannot comprehend how a language can divide.Ive been bilingual all my life and have problems with any anglophones what so ever.Those who choose to hate and or divide over language should put on their big boy/girl pants on and GROW UP!
Roland Godin
@Mario Doucet
I will permit a one day credit on bashing for this one, and also a bycott of poutine, french fries and french vanilla chocolate milk...et voilà.
I will permit a one day credit on bashing for this one, and also a bycott of poutine, french fries and french vanilla chocolate milk...et voilà.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Roland Godin... and French toast and French kiss!
David Amos
@Mario Doucet Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?
Shawn McShane
The cost going from $17 million to $130 million is the embarrassment. To not cancel the games is an embarrassment.
We cannot afford it. Bad enough the hundred millions for the Irving arena.
We cannot afford it. Bad enough the hundred millions for the Irving arena.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Methinks that just may be the biggest understatement within this comment section N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Methinks this may be the winter of discontent for certian minions of the Irving Clan N'esy Pas?
Jeff Vautour
Excerpt from the article in the CBC new site...
"The $17-million bid was based on a suggested financial framework in the International Organization of the Francophonie Games guide, explained Eric Larocque, executive director of the 2021 Games organizing committee.
The $130-million price tag, he explained, is the full business plan, which the committee wasn't required to submit as part of its bid.
Larocque rejected the idea the committee won its bid under false pretences but agreed it would have been "the right thing to do" to submit the business plan from the get-go."
A) The committee knew the full price tag all along.
B) They misrepresented that info to the very organizations that had committed to paying.
C) Sounds like Fraud to me... as the executive director of the committee - Larocque IS responsible.
D) Both Provincial/Feds have every right to say, We'll pass on the games...
E) How can anyone think little NB can afford ~$65M when we have so many other pressing issue to face....
"The $17-million bid was based on a suggested financial framework in the International Organization of the Francophonie Games guide, explained Eric Larocque, executive director of the 2021 Games organizing committee.
The $130-million price tag, he explained, is the full business plan, which the committee wasn't required to submit as part of its bid.
Larocque rejected the idea the committee won its bid under false pretences but agreed it would have been "the right thing to do" to submit the business plan from the get-go."
A) The committee knew the full price tag all along.
B) They misrepresented that info to the very organizations that had committed to paying.
C) Sounds like Fraud to me... as the executive director of the committee - Larocque IS responsible.
D) Both Provincial/Feds have every right to say, We'll pass on the games...
E) How can anyone think little NB can afford ~$65M when we have so many other pressing issue to face....
Shawn McShane
@Jeff Vautour Eric Larocque is very smug. He basically said, "As if the games would only be $17-million." He said NB must come up with a funding formula to pay the $130 Million.
NB funding formula should be to send the games to Sherbrooke (Quebec) or Guadeloupe (France) who had also bid on the games. I would even go as far as to give Quebec millions to take the games and punish sneaky Larocque.
NB funding formula should be to send the games to Sherbrooke (Quebec) or Guadeloupe (France) who had also bid on the games. I would even go as far as to give Quebec millions to take the games and punish sneaky Larocque.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Shawn McShane, no you wouldn't!
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you need to calm down and learn to take a joke N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, guess who always complains that he gets insulted on here?
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks there is BIG difference between an insult and libel N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, however BIG the difference may be, you would not know the difference. I have yet to read anything written towards you by anyone here that would even come close to libel. I dare you to point it to me. Be my guest!
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Why did the Crown delete all of Mr Martin's comments about my lawsuit and in return why did he claim my blog about it in which his comments were saved was libel when in last it is his words that were criminal in nature?
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "I dare you to point it to me. Be my guest!"
Methinks you should ask Mr Martin why I already blogged my reply N'esy Pas?
Methinks you should ask Mr Martin why I already blogged my reply N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
What an incompetent bunch ! Another Atcon 6 giveaway by the Liberals and their " one trick pony " agenda !
David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks they have lots of tricks when it comes to spending other people's money N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, "Methinks, Methinks, Methinks". You don't seem too sure of yourself that you do think.
Lou Bell
I suspect Gallant and his lieutenants , knowing the reaction from the majority of NB'ers , just said to leave out the key financials, if we can't bury it we'll spin later !
David Amos
@Lou Bell YUP
Lou Bell
Where'd these people get their education ? Apparently economics wasn't offered !
David Amos
@Lou Bell Mais Oui
Lou Bell
I guess I know where the " phonie " part comes from !
Albert Wade
@Lou Bell yes, I believe translated to English the term is franklyphony
David Amos
@Albert Wade LMAO Methinks that how we say it in Chiac N'esy Pas?
Jim Cyr
It's fun to spend other people's money!! :)
David Amos
@Jim Cyr Methinks Trudeau The Younger was taught how to play the wicked game well by Papa Pierre and his many minions N'esy Pas?
Paul Eric Lagace
It's a luxury NB doesn't need and doesn't deserve.
NB is culturally stagnating.
Dieppe has nothing to offer the greater Francophonie, and can't afford it.
Outside Quebec, we are being assimilated.
NB is culturally stagnating.
Dieppe has nothing to offer the greater Francophonie, and can't afford it.
Outside Quebec, we are being assimilated.
David Amos
@Paul Eric Lagace Methinks some folks may recall that Louis Riel predicted that the French would take back Canada without firing a shot N'esy Pas?
Seamus O'hern
@David Amos ....take back?...lol....and how that turn out for ol louie?....
Marguerite Deschamps
@Seamus O'hern, ...lol.. funny depending on which side of the noose you happen to be.
David Amos
@Seamus O'hern Methinks the lady's attempt at gallows humour is sick Need I say that I would not be shocked to learn that your forefathers were"ol Lourie's" hangmen? Small wonder why the Ghosts of my Forefathers no doubt enjoyed my suing Cardinal Bernard Francis law and my wife's Yankee Irish Catholic relatives in Beantown
BTW The RCMP and legions of lawyers on both sides of the medicine line know that after I won some judgements in the US of A a lawyer working for the American Indian Movement asked for my assistance before I came home to run in the election of the 38th Parliament I bet you don't know why N'esy Pas?
Stephen Wood
By the time the 2021 Francophonie Games roll around , the cost will likely have ballooned to double that again. 260 million . Another Liberal BOMB left ticking for NBers to disarm .
David Amos
@Stephen Wood Of that I have no doubt
Lou Bell
Guess the games will go on , now that " common sense " is no politically correct !!! At least to the minority !!!
David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks common sense is a myth to politicians and defy us to define it N'esy Pas?
Mario Doucet
International fraud and scam.
David Amos
@Mario Doucet Its definitely a scam
Jeff LeBlanc
@Dieppe...lol
Marguerite Deschamps
@Jeff LeBlanc; Hillsborough, ...lol
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks Quebec is the biggest joke of all to most Proud Maritimers N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, just get to be known a little bit more and you'll be a shoo-in for the title.
Albert Wade
Tax payers will pony up again for another francliphony hand out. Will see what happens when NB is bankrupt and under third party management. Anglophones able to will all eventually move away but the rest will remain saddle with the debt.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Albert Wade, why do you think you are so indispensable and that the province could not function without you?
Marguerite Deschamps
.... after all, don't we have all the jobs? It must follow that you must be a burden on employed New Brunswickers, eh?
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "why do you think you are so indispensable and that the province could not function without you?"
Methinks you should ask yourself the same question N'esy Pas?
Methinks you should ask yourself the same question N'esy Pas?
Matt Steele
@Marguerite Deschamps .....If you want these foolish games so bad , why don't you pay the 130 MILLION yourself instead of wanting the taxpayers to pick up the tab ! . If there was a vote on this issue ; the great majority would vote to dump these boondoggle games .
Marguerite Deschamps
@Matt Steele, actually I have already voiced my opinion to scrap it if you had bothered to read. Tell that to your comedian turned Deputy-Premier Robert Gauvin, not me!
George Smith
Would there be money for a anglophone event like this? Why will a province that's a majority English have to pay for an event that they aren't a part of? How is it that Moncton and Dieppe are taking so much of our tax dollars the last couple of years? A new arena and this party for francophone voters in a nearly bankrupt province. Shame. The only embarrassment will be in going through with this event. 17 million is too much and 130 million is foolish.
daryl doucette
@George Smith 17 dollars is too much. That would feed a homeless family for a day!
Marguerite Deschamps
@George Smith, you can be part of it. Yup, even unilingual Anglos can play.
david herman
@George Smith
Question: Why will a province that's a majority English have to pay for an event that they aren't a part of?
Answer: Because it is the epitome of segregation.
Question: Why will a province that's a majority English have to pay for an event that they aren't a part of?
Answer: Because it is the epitome of segregation.
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "Yup, even unilingual Anglos can play."
Methinks you tell that to all the guys N'esy Pas?
Methinks you tell that to all the guys N'esy Pas?
david herman
SO...let me guess then...these francophones responsible for the number error.......are they the same people in the municipal finance department of the provincial government?
(i know, i know...stupid question)
(i know, i know...stupid question)
Marguerite Deschamps
@david herman, you sure seem calm tonight! Are you on Valium?
David Amos
@david herman "i know, i know...stupid question"
Methinks you should ask your not so funny critic if she knows any of these people N'esy Pas?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Methinks you should ask your not so funny critic if she knows any of these people N'esy Pas?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Roger Richard
I wonder what « embarrassment » Mr. Lapierre is talking about? This is just crazy. Our elected officials are living in a bubble, on the clouds, way up there not understanding the reality.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Roger Richard Mon Ami as you know I wholeheartedly agree
David Amos
@David Amos Hmmm
Marguerite Deschamps
No worries Robert Gauvin, Kris Austin and his cohorts will vote for the government and approve this. As long as the pay comes in!
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you should ask your beloved French Lieutenant if he finds this stuff as funny as you do N'esy Pas?
https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER
https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER
Dieppe mayor 'absolutely shocked' by ballooning Francophonie Games price
Yvon Lapierre says the city can't take on any more spending to help cover estimated $130M event
The mayor of Dieppe says he was shocked to learn the cost of hosting the 2021 Francophonie Games in his city and neighbouring Moncton had grown from about $17 million to $130 million.
Mayor Yvon Lapierre said he understood the cost would be $17 to 19 million until Wednesday night. That's when someone from the province told him about the increase to $130 million, something he said left him "absolutely shocked by the amount."
Dieppe and Moncton are co-hosting the international sports and culture event, considered one of the largest in the francophone world.
Radio-Canada reported Thursday the organizing committee for the event submitted a funding request to the province for $130 million in April.
"Obviously there will need to be some very serious discussions about the finances of this project," he said.
The province and the federal government had previously committed to split the cost of hosting the games equally.
The new Progressive Conservative government said Thursday there were no funds approved in the budget for the Games. The federal government said it would stick to the original commitment to fund half of the cost, leaving the other half to the province.
"We're fairly positive we'll do the best Games that we can," he said. "While it's surprising, again, there's still time to work together and come up with a plan."
Lapierre said the city isn't prepared to consider increasing its funding commitment.
"Absolutely not," he said.
Legacy costs
Dieppe and Moncton both committed to pay $750,000 as part of hosting the games.
Dieppe is also committed to covering one third of "legacy projects," the mayor said.
One example would be plans to add two soccer fields near the Collège communautaire du Nouveau-Brunswick campus, which he said carries an estimated $2.5-million price tag.
Avoid embarrassment
Lapierre doesn't think there's a risk of the Games not occurring.
"I doubt that the province of New Brunswick and government of Canada would want to face that embarrassment," he said.
The event is expected to draw more than 3,000 athletes and artists from around the world.
Information Morning - Moncton
The exploding cost of the Francophonie Games
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With files from Gabrielle Fahmy and Radio-Canada