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Too many N.B.ers are living in 'energy poverty,' says Saint John activist

Human Development Council's Randy Hatfield says N.B. Power rate hikes causing hardship

A group that studies social issues and advocates on behalf of New Brunswickers with low incomes is disappointed in a recent decision on power rates.

The Energy and Utilities Board approved N.B. Power's application to raise rates by about 19 per cent over two years.

That will mean another increase next April, almost as high as this year's, of 9.25 per cent, which was ratified Nov. 8 by the board.

"Much like death and taxes, I think increases in N.B. Power rates are probably baked-in in this province for the foreseeable future," said Randy Hatfield, executive director of the Human Development Council, based in Saint John.

"And if that is the case, then we have to be very much aware of the hardship that that's going to leave a number of New Brunswick ratepayers in."

Many New Brunswickers would already be classed as being in energy poverty, said Hatfield, though there is no universally accepted threshold to define that.

A bar graph showing rates of energy poverty in Canada and each province with orange bars extending horizonally. New Brunswick's bar is longest and the figure next to it is 36.3 per cent. New Brunswick was the province with the highest rate of households paying over six per cent of their income on energy, according to a report published in March by the Human Development Council. (Human Development Council)

According to a report by the council, the federal government defines energy poverty as paying more than 10 per cent of household income on energy, which would affect 14.6 per cent of households in the province. Other groups use a six per cent threshold, bumping the numbers up to 36.3 per cent of households in the province.

With higher electricity rates, the portion of people in energy poverty can be expected to grow.

Some older couples living on pensions, for example, don't have the flexibility to afford an additional $30 to $50 for electricit when other expenses, such as rent, are also up by about $300 a month, said Hatfield.

To help people cope with that type of situation, the council is calling for a comprehensive policy on energy poverty. 

These exist in many other provinces and have for quite some time.

"Nova Scotia is 20 years ahead of us," Hatfield said.

One pillar of such a program is emergency benefits, he said, noting this type of funding is already available in New Brunswick for both fuel and rent.

A number of other programs are also available to help cut down energy use and costs, said Dominique Couture, a spokesperson for N.B. Power.

A building with NB Power written on it N.B. Power says it's open to constructive feedback on ways to deal with customers who struggle to pay their bills. (Michael Heenan/CBC)

Some pay for or subsidize the cost of heat pumps and other heating upgrades, while others help defray the cost of energy efficiency renovations, such as new windows and doors, or provide in-store rebates on products such as clotheslines and weather stripping.

"We understand that rising rates are difficult for our customers and know that electricity is an essential service," said Couture.

"N.B. Power is committed to doing everything we can to manage and reduce our own costs to help limit rate increases for customers," she said.

Some other measures that Hatfield believes would help include changes to the way N.B. Power deals with customers who fall behind on their bills, incentives for landlords to make efficiency upgrades and direct financial assistance to those most in need.

"The glaring omission in New Brunswick that we see in other utilities throughout North America, including Ontario, is a low-income rebate," he said.

Hatfield would like to see a monthly rebate applied directly on the energy bills of those living in energy poverty.

A sample of an N.B. Power digital bill document. It has the utility's name at the top and its logo which is made up of two arrows in a circular formation. There is a pale orange section with a summary of charges listed. There is information at the bottom about the amount due and an equalized billing plan. In the right-hand column is information about the billing date and number and quantity of electricity used. N.B. Power bills went up 9.8 per cent for residential customers this year and another increase almost as large has been approved for next year. (N.B. Power)

Susan Holt, New Brunswick's new premier, has said the 10-per-cent provincial portion of sales tax will be removed from residential power bills by April 1.

That will help, said Hatfield, but may not be the best bang for the buck.

"I think we have to ask ourselves if we need to target investments and resources and scarce subsidies to those that are struggling the most," he said.

Randy Hatfield, head of the Human Development Council, speaks with host Rachel cave about energy poverty. Hatfield says it's long past time for programs to help low-income households. 

There are a couple of good things came out of the rate hearing, from Hatfield's perspective.

The utility agreed to set up a vulnerable customer liaison committee to identify who is struggling and tailor assistance for them.

The utilities board ordered N.B. Power to report on how that committee is doing every June, said Hatfield.

The purpose of the committee is to better understand and improve the customer experiences of those facing energy poverty or disabilities, said Couture.

It will be a forum for open dialogue and is expected to provide constructive input on how to address and respond to vulnerable customer needs and concerns, she said.

Hatfield is also pleased that the board said energy efficiency programs must have separate categories for customers with low incomes instead of lumping them in with applicants who have moderate incomes.

This was the first time the Human Development Council took part in a power rate hearing.

Hatfield acknowledged it was a lot of work, but said the council made an important contribution on behalf of low-income ratepayers. Other provinces do a better job of including them in the process, he said.

"We are pretty far behind in terms of civil society and advocacy," he said.

Hatfield noted that during the hearing no one disputed the findings of the council's researchers.

"There is an energy poverty issue in New Brunswick, and it's one that's going to require dogged determination," he said.

 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Jennifer Sweet has been telling the stories of New Brunswickers for over 20 years. She is originally from Bathurst, got her journalism degree from Carleton University and is based in Fredericton. She can be reached at 451-4176 or jennifer.sweet@cbc.ca.

With files from Information Morning Saint John

 
 
 
 
 

NB Power first full rate hearing gets questions about big paper mills

The utility has applied for a two per cent rate hike beginning on July 1

 
Robert Jones· CBC News · Posted: Jun 15, 2015 9:43 PM ADT
 
 
Hickey registered to participate as a concerned citizen at the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board hearing. (CBC)

Multi million dollar subsidies NB Power is forced to provide the province's big paper mills took centre stage at the utility's rate hearing Monday with a retired NB Power engineer criticizing the practice as thinly veiled corporate welfare.

"I'd like to understand the program and I would like all the documentation that's available on the program that will explain it to people," said Gregory Hickey as he questioned a panel of NB Power executives about the practice of buying renewable energy from paper mills and reselling it back to them at a substantial loss.

"I think the people of this province deserve to know,"

NB Power is in front of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board for its first full rate hearing, where all of its operations are open to scruitny, since 1993.  

The utility has applied for a modest two per cent rate hike beginning on July 1, but for the first time in 22 years the application requires full disclosure and that is subjecting the utility to some tough questioning.

Hickey registered to participate as a concerned citizen and was given wide latitude by EUB Chairman Ray Gorman to ask NB Power any questions he had, with the same standing as the corporate lawyer for Enbridge who went before him and the corporate lawyer for JD Irving who came after.

Hickey made the most of his chance.

I think the people of this province deserve to know.
- Gregory Hickey

He was especially curious about NB Power's Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program which was unveiled by the Alward government in 2011.

It requires NB Power to buy renewable electricity generated by paper mills at a high price - mostly hydro and biomass - and then sell it back to the companies at a low price to help bring their power costs down.

NB Power says in the first 27 months of the program it bought 858.9 thousand megawatt hours (mwh) of electricity from the mills for $81.6 million and then sold it back to the mills at $57.2 million.

NB Power lost $24.2 million on those transactions and Hickey told the hearing if the utility is rich enough to subsidize industry, it should be denied a rate increase. 

Forestry company JD Irving Ltd. is one of the biggest users of the program and its lawyer at the hearing Gary Lawson tried to argue the $95 per mw/h mills are paid for power is the going rate - and a fair price - for renewable energy.

But NB Power has already disclosed in the hearing it only pays $84 for wind energy and NB Power's director of strategic planning and regulatory affairs, Neil Larlee, hinted current renewable prices are much lower than that.  

"The price has actually come down in the last couple of years," said Larlee.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Robert Jones

Reporter

Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006.

 
 
 
 
David Amos 
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David Amos 
There has been a lot of water over the dam since I had a long talk with Mr Jones in 2008

David Amos 
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Al Clark
Reply toDavid Amos 
Who'd a thunk that singing was just another of ray's failures?

 
 
David Amos
Content Deactivated
I talked to Mr. Hickey as I stepped up to the plate and began swinging away



 JTCNB1
Thank you Mr. Hickey for opening the eyes of all New Brunswickers!

As other people have said, the EUB should be demanding that NB Power drop its rates to the general public!

David Amos
Reply to JTCNB1
Dream on



DennisofDouglas
Good to hear from you Greg. After guys like you and I have seen some of the BS that happened to NB Power after MacKenna was elected and Art O'Connor was fed up with Gov't meddling, we become knowledgably cynical. Well stated Greg.

David Amos
Reply to DennisofDouglas
Hmmm



stevenaustin
Echoing the same concern raised by others on this subject - the current Liberal government which recently targeted seniors who are included in the group of "'those that can afford to pay more will be asked to do so" - makes this question raised by Mr.Hickey all the more important - apparently we are not even asking industry to pay their fair share under this energy purchase program - call it what it is - another gift or subsidy - when we are broke as a province with 12Billion in debt - citizens should be outraged .Industry will bemoan that job losses will result in cancellation of this welfare - bully capitalism and corporate welfare must end - wouldnt 24 million go a long way to keep some of our schools on the chopping block open - no com[pany would sign contracts to intentionally operate at a loss and it should be illegal of our government to do so when dealing with our money!

David Amos
Reply to stevenaustin
Listen to what the latest mandate is saying today
 
David Amos 
Reply to David Amos
 J.D. Irving and N.B. Power tangle over electricity costs charged to big mills

Company asks EUB to change formula, but N.B. Power says this would hurt residential customers

Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Nov 07, 2024 5:51 PM AST

Methinks the latest minister of natural resources is a nervous camper today N'esy Pas?

David Amos 
Reply to David Amos
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/jd-irving-electricity-costs-eub-hearing-1.7377081

John Dutton

Here you go Holt this is your moment to shine!

Tom

Reply to John Dutton

That is funny.

Crystal Ann

Reply to John Dutton

Not a chance, she has already stated she would not interfere between NB power and EUB

David Amos

Reply to Crystal Ann

Go Figure

David Amos 
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N.B. Power wins long fight to raise rates 19 per cent over 2 years

Energy and Utilities Board grants utility almost all of its requested rate increase

Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Nov 08, 2024 2:10 PM AST

"Residential customers may not feel that increase, however. Premier Susan Holt has pledged to try and drop the province's 10 per cent sales tax on residential electricity bills by April 1, close to the same amount residential rates are set to increase on the same day." 

 

whatfreespeech
Shame on us all for allowing so, so much of this to go on.

Class action lawsuit anyone????

2Right4U
Reply to whatfreespeech
Who would we sue? Ourselves for keeping electing these clowns?

David Amos

Reply to 2Right4U
Good question

David Amos
Content Deactivated 
Reply to whatfreespeech
Everybody knows I sued the Queen
 
Al Clark 
Reply to whatfreespeech
We're still paying lawyers for Higgs' right to deny us the carbon tax rebate and we want to pay more lawyers to sue us?  
 
Don Corey 
Reply to Al Clark
I guess that Mr. Cain isn't the only one continuing to complain about no carbon tax rebate from Higgs. Interesting.....

It was nice of all NB'ers though to contribute their carbon tax money toward our provincial debt.

 
 
gs1000s
Why is it we keep electing people who reach into our pockets and steal from us and still afford them respect they never earn and certainly don't deserve?

2Right4U
Reply to gs1000s
because they said they would do things differently than the thieves that were in power.

David Amos
Reply to 2Right4U
Oh So True 
 
 
 
JusPasn
This should be the straw that breaks the Irving's sweet deal with NB Power! !

The corporate welfare ENDS HERE JD!

Rosco
Reply to JusPasn
But Irving owns the government.

2Right4U
Reply to Get them out
Or least the "back room boys" who control the government - all three "leading" parties (Lib/Con/Dper)

Rosco
Reply to 2Right4U
There's only been 2 leading party in the province Libs & CONS and we don't know if NDP are bought yet since they've never been in power.

David Amos
Reply to 2Right4U
Yup 
 
 
 
Liberal Boondoggles
Corporate greed from the Irving's with political acceptance from the id!0ts in suits has destroyed this once great province. When does it stop.

Rosco
Reply to Liberal Boondoggles aka taxedtodeath
When we start jailed the lot of them for fraud and corruption.

David Amos

Reply to Rosco
Expect your wish to come true on or about the 12th of Never  


 
Ken
Thank you Mr. Hickey. I wish there were more people like you who would come forward to tell it like it is. The people of this province not only need to know ... they deserve better. Why are people not being charged with theft?

David Amos

Reply to Ken
What am I chopped liver?  



Atticus_Finch
In addition, the electricity is generated by burning biomass that they buy from the Province of New Brunswick at a highly discounted rate. I would not be surprised if the NB also provided a subsidy for the boiler as well. No wonder we are the Greece of North America...

David Amos
Reply to Atticus_Finch
Nothing surprises me anymore



Daddybear
Special energy rates, special water rates, special tax rates for the most wealthy who need it the least at the expense of everyone else who has to leave the province to find a future. Why don't people care? I suppose a story like this would not make the front page of the print media AKA The Irving family Newsletters. People have no idea what is happening in back room deals until it's too late.

David Amos
Reply to Daddybear
Thats the reason for a back room deal

Al Clark 
Reply to Daddybear
You could just assume it's happening every day, because it is!
 
David Amos
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You should know Obviously you have been reading my emails in a backroom eh?
 
 
 
Brenda
I assumed there had already been an increase in the power rates. My power bill increased $100 per month, over the same time last year, for the months of Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, and Apr. That's $100 per month needed for grocery money. What kind of men want their fellowmen to go hungry?

David Amos
Reply to Brenda
Greedy men



olddawn
It would be nice what the "Short Term energy purchases" are and where they are from because " approximately 25 to 35 per cent of total supply requirements, and approximately 50 to 55 per cent of total fuel and purchased power costs (p. 24)." Last report was $580M (p. 32) so we spent around $290M for 23-35% of our power. No deal for NBers. . http://www.nbpower.com/.../annual/2014_Annual_Report_EN.pdf

I think, NB Power should rebuild the dam with two more turbines -- highly efficient renewable dispatchable power -- but do it without "partners". Plus, I think the power is from Emera's 285MW Bayside Power and Irving's Grandview Power Generating Plant. NB Power foes not own a natural gas fired plan but Emera and Irving do.

And, it is interesting the Irving owed the 285MW Bayside Power Plant until 2009 when they sold it to Emera. In Nova Scotia Emera is Nova Scotia Power -- so tey collect the revenue from ratepayers. The mills are also putting power on the grid using natural gas

NB Power needs to fire up the super clean 1000MW Coleson Cove Power Generator and whole take back the grid. NB Power was both the producer and deliverer of power until Bernard Lord opened it for private producers.

NB has been plundered by Irving. Heroes like Gregory Hickey are rising.

2Right4U
Reply to olddawn
Rebuild the dam - yes - two turbines would require more research.

As water flows through the slouch ways to get to the turbines, the water heats up which affects the temperature (thus fish, etc.) downstream

David Amos
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RIP JJanet

David Amos
Reply to olddawn
You are one of my Heroes
 
 
 
garyogaryo 
Why is biomass (chipping mature hardwood trees) considered a renewable?  
 
Roy Kirk
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So that is plausible to subsidize the industry.
 
WTF  aka Alfred1860
Reply to garyogaryo  
Biomass is the lowest value product that could be produced by our forests, and we're not only allowing it, but paying Irving to do it.

In principle, it is no different than if we were to pay Irving to bulldoze the Legislature, run the debris through a crusher, and use it to pave parking lots.

This province meets the definition of clinically insane.

2Right4U
Reply to WTF  aka Alfred1860 
Biomass - the fertilizer for the next generation of trees 
 
Al Clark
Reply to garyogaryo 
Well, it could be because TREES GROW BACK! Just guessing ;-)  
 
Al Clark 
Reply to garyogaryo  
Where exactly are they chipping "mature hardwood trees" for biomass??
 
David Amos
Reply to Al Clark 
Chipman Just guessing ;-)
 
Al Clark 
Reply to David Amos
Guess again. Ask your pals at jdi. The correct answer is nowhere. Even in Europe where they purpose grow trees to be chipped and fed to extremely efficient gasifying boilers they are grown in coppices to about 2-4", hardly mature. 
 
 

Roy Kirk
The good news is that these subsidies are documented and able to be discussed. Back in the 90's, the government of the day removed NB Power from regulatory oversight and promptly dropped the rates charged such large customers, reducing them well below the regulated rate and the cost of service. And they kept them that low until the company became such a basket case that it had to go back under regulation, in the 2000's. They jacked up the rates at that time, in order to be in compliance with the lawfully ordered rates, and cause a great deal of stress for the companies tbat saw a sudden increase in their costs.

2Right4U

Reply to Roy Kirk
1990s - wasn't that Frankie

Rosco
Reply to 2Right4U
Yep Godfather Franky McKenna the worst government to take power. We still feel the effects from his time in office.

David Amos
Reply to 2Right4U
Yup

David Amos
Reply to Rosco
Yup



mad as hell
Of course Irving is involved. How does the Irving family sleep at night knowing that it is them that is causing the Maritimes to go broke? when is enough enough? time to break up the monopoly! The Irvings are crooks that would steal candy from a baby and then mark it up and re-sell it!

teg beck
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Arrogance and greed has no conscience .

Rosco
Reply to mad as hell
They sleep very well on mattress full of money.

David Amos
Reply to teg beck
That is the awful truth



tomkatt
can of ironic that gary lawson sits on the anti poverty board and then comes to this hearing telling us what a great deal we are getting.

Liberal Boondoggles aka taxedtodeath
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There is a reason lawyers are the lowest of the low on the food chain.

Tam
Reply to tomkatt
After reading taxedtodeath's reply I submit that this whole thread is a 'can of ironic'...

David Amos
Reply to Tam
Why do you think there are so many jokes about the bottom feeders?
 
 

Underdog5555
For God's sake will someone please stand up to the Irvings before they drive us into bankruptcy?

Rosco
Reply to Underdog5555
It may be too late.

no more1755
Reply to Underdog5555
to late you are bankrupt

David Amos
Reply to Underdog5555
Been there done that while everyone laughed at me 


 
Paul Bourgoin
Subsidies for any and every Project, Property Tax Breaks, Income Tax Breaks, Subsidized Electricity, Twenty Five Years Crown Money Loosing Contracts, Canaport LNG Secret Property tax Deal, St.John Water Deal, Crown Lands and Forest Act, Forestry Royalties, Protected Area Secret Deal, Forestry Tolerance Impacting Negatively on Fish and Wild Life populations, Habitat loss to name a few , WHO IS MANAGING THESE BANKRUPT GENERATING NEW BRUNSWICK DEALS AND WHY???

Rosco
Reply to Paul Bourgoin aka RoaterB
WHO IS MANAGING THESE BANKRUPT GENERATING NEW BRUNSWICK DEALS AND WHY???

Backroom political hacks that get plumb jobs/ deals/ paychecks.

In other words it's done in the name of greed.

David Amos
Reply to Rosco
Yup



Commonsense 1
Yet another example of Alward bending over backwards for the Irvings. Add up all the money he paid the Irvings through the back door it is scary

2Right4U
Reply to Commonsense 1
just like the liberals before and after him and lord before graham and McKenna before lord and . . .

It is past time we voted in another option

David Amos
Reply to 2Right4U
I put my name on 8 ballots in order to debate them Intervened at the NEB and the EUB and sued the Queen What did you do?



Fundy Coast
Everything in NB is paid for on the backs of the little guy, we get NO political representation, all we get is greedy leaders who want more and more of our money.

2Right4U
Reply to Fundy Coast
In Canada, we elect people to GOVERN us not REPRESENT us.

David Amos
Reply to 2Right4U
Bingo



MCJ2015
Take a deep breath and everyone say QUEBEC HYDRO!!!!!!!!!!

Rosco
Reply to MCJ2015
Can you say getting royally screwed.

Underdog5555
Reply to MCJ2015
I agree. Hydro Quebec is a well-run, profitable company. We certainly cannot say the same for NB Power. We should beg HQ to buy NB Power.

Roy Kirk
Reply to Underdog5555
How do you know this? They are a Crown Corp., a class of companies that are notoriously creative in their book-keeping.

Rosco
Reply to Underdog5555
You forget our government is the worst at negotiating deals that's good for NBers & the province. They usually sellout to whomever business they negotiate with.

David Amos
Reply to Underdog5555
Hydro Quebec was clever enough to back away from the NB Power headache



LeMax

So, it's legal to cheat the NB taxpayers?

DennisofDouglas
Reply to LeMax
Yes..now be quiet!!! (sarcasm intended)

David Amos

Reply to LeMax
Everything is legal as long as you have the powerful lawyers  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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NB Power holds first full rate hearing, cites prom season as reason for price hike

ByManatee Staff

Jun 16, 2015 

New Brunswick — A retired NB Power engineer criticized his former employer heavily last night in an open hearing held in front of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board.

“I think the people of this province deserve to know,” stated Gregory Hickey as he grilled a panel of NB Power executives with questions that have been on the minds of New Brunswick citizens for months. “I’d like to see some documentation to justify this 2 percent rate hike, and more importantly to explain why it is companies like JD Irving are getting multi-million dollar subsidies at the same time. To me it seems it’s nothing but corporate welfare.”

Screen Shot 2015-06-16 at 12.33.07 PMHickey, in referring to the utility’s practice of purchasing renewable energy from paper mills and reselling it back to them at a huge loss, came as close as anyone ever has to demanding full disclosure from NB Power. He was quickly put in his place, however, when NB Power exec Neil Larlee suddenly interrupted him by blurting out, “Well, what about prom? You think those fancy lights grow on trees? We’re the ones supplying you with the energy for the DJ — you want your precious kids to go to prom without music?”

Larlee then hauled out an old laptop and proceeded to project an embarrassingly amateur-looking PowerPoint presentation he’d created detailing the rising costs of electricity for springtime proms across the province. “Look at this!” he exclaimed to the captive audience, gesturing with his laser-pointer toward an enlarged photo of the FHS prom being held at the Student Union Building on campus that same evening. “The lighting alone at this event is consuming 5 times the energy that we are right now, and with all those sweaty teenagers crammed in there, the air-conditioner’s on full-blast. Who’s supposed to pay for that? And think of the energy used by all those girls blow-drying and curling their hair — you should consider yourselves lucky it’s only 2 percent!”

A confused Hickey tried desperately to return the conversation to the core problem — that while power bills are increasing for the average New Brunswicker beginning July 1, the filthy-rich Irvings are getting yet another break through NB Power’s Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program. “If NB Power is rich enough to subsidize industry, it should be denied a rate increase,” he stated emphatically.

Larlee, not to be defeated, cranked his laptop’s speakers to play Kanye West’s 2010 hit “Power” while displaying more and more photos of fancy cars, girls in sparkling dresses and glittering ballrooms. “This shit ain’t free!” he cried. Unfortunately for those in attendance with the capacity for reason, Larlee won the crowd with his bright, loud, poorly crafted presentation. The hearing ended when a strategically placed fog machine emitted a huge cloud of smoke, allowing the NB Power execs to escape unnoticed.

New Brunswickers can expect a 2 percent increase on their July energy bills and an even more lavish prom in 2016, which is rumoured to have planned help from Hydro Québec.

 

 

 
 

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