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Holt's first headache: Choosing a cabinet from a large Liberal caucus

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Holt's first headache: Choosing a cabinet from a large Liberal caucus

Premier-designate must balance experience with regional, linguistic and gender factors — and a few egos

It's a good problem to have.

Liberal Premier-designate Susan Holt has the largest incoming caucus of government MLAs since the 2010 election, offering her many options as she chooses her cabinet ministers.

There's no way she can possibly please everyone.

"It's not easy at all," said Jordan O'Brien, a chief of staff to former Liberal premier Brian Gallant.

"There's regional considerations, linguistic considerations, gender considerations, experience — and that's both political experience and not. …  So it's quite a gamut of things you want to balance."

Holt will have to decide quickly: she and her cabinet will be sworn into power Saturday, Nov. 2.

Jordan O'Brien Jordan O’Brien, a chief of staff to former Liberal premier Brian Gallant, said it's not easy to choose a cabinet. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

The glut of Liberal MLAs from the Moncton area and southeast New Brunswick is not a surprise, but it's a challenge when choosing a cabinet.

With incumbents, including former ministers and ex-mayors, as well as up-and-comers, it's "the impossible region," because potential choices exceed the number of positions Holt could allocate to a single region.

"The list goes on and on and on and on," O'Brien said. "There's maybe three or four [spots] and more than double that in terms of people available. I don't know how you do that one." 

The unexpectedly large contingent of a half-dozen Liberals in Saint John-area ridings, from the Route 7 interchange in the west all the way to Hampton and St. Martins, adds another layer of complexity.

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Susan Holt must balance geographic, linguistic, gender and other considerations in picking her ministers

O'Brien said they represent "a lot of talent, high-profile talent," including Aaron Kennedy, who he called a "giant-killer" for defeating Progressive Conservative Leader Blaine Higgs in his Quispamsis riding.

John Herron, elected in Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins, told an Oct. 2 candidates debate that his experience as an MP in Ottawa, and with the New Brunswick Business Council and the Energy and Utilities Board, "position me to play a senior role in a new government."

Holt set out to build a strong team and that's what she has, said former Liberal cabinet minister Donald Arseneault.

"She's not recruiting people like me with no background," said Arseneault, who predicts the former Horizon Health CEO and winner in Saint John Portland-Simonds will end up with the all-important health portfolio. 

Don Arsenault Donald Arsenault, centre, being sworn in into cabinet in 2014. He said Holt has built a strong team. (CBC)

"She's recruiting the Dr. John Dornans of the world. I don't think Dr. John Dornan got in here thinking he was going to be tourism minister."

Aside from Saint John and Moncton, there are more than a dozen Liberals in northern New Brunswick, most of them incumbents, in a region that has been waiting six years for real clout at the decision-making table.

"If you're a sitting MLA, you're saying, 'OK, I don't want [the party] to get too much of a majority because then my chances to be in cabinet kind of diminish,'" said Arseneault, who sees Bathurst's René Legacy as a likely finance minister.

Holt may have a harder time choosing in the province's northwest.

Jean-Claude D'Amours, a three-term federal MP who has just won his third term as a provincial MLA for Edmundston-Vallée-des-Rivières, makes a lot of sense, he said.

But, he pointed out, the two other MLAs in the area, Francine Landry and Chuck Chiasson, supported Holt in the 2022 Liberal leadership race and that could be a consideration. 

Another question is how many women Holt will want to put into her cabinet.

Aside from her, nine other women were elected as Liberals this week, only two of them with experience as MLAs.

Aaron Kennedy O'Brien highlighted Aaron Kennedy as a strong member of Holt's incoming team after he unseated Blaine Higgs in Quispamsis. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

The high-water mark for women in cabinet appears to be Higgs's 2020 cabinet, with six women out of 16, or 37.5 per cent, according to University of New Brunswick political scientist Joanna Everitt.

"I wouldn't go so far as to expect she's going to have a gender-balanced cabinet, because of the fact that really only about a third of her caucus are women," said Everitt, who studies gender representation in politics.

"I think there's going to be a lot of navigating through the typical factors that go into cabinet-making." 

Holt told Radio-Canada on Tuesday that "the possibility is there" for an equal number of women and men, but she will also consider other factors to achieve "the most diverse and representative" cabinet possible.

Everitt said it's easier to achieve gender parity at the federal level, "in a much larger body like the House of Commons, when you'd have many, many more people to choose from."

The position of attorney general must be filled by a lawyer and Holt has three to choose from, including Rothesay's Alyson Townsend, who would also help with gender parity.

There are potential pitfalls to cabinet selection — and exclusion.

O'Brien said some rookies can struggle to master the cut-and-thrust of legislative debate.

Sometimes the MLAs most willing to "take one for the team" and stay outside cabinet are the ones best suited to be on the inside, he said.

And leaving out someone who is convinced they are deserving can backfire.

Miramichi-area MLA Michael (Tanker) Malley quit the PC caucus to sit as an independent in February 2006 after former premier Bernard Lord passed him over for a cabinet post. 

That triggered a weeks-long political drama that saw Malley end up as Speaker of the legislature, prompting more turmoil in the house.

Lord, however, had a narrow two-seat majority at the time, while Holt's more lopsided win means one or two unhappy MLAs can't hold her hostage in legislative votes.

Still, it's a delicate task awaiting the Liberal leader.

"There is certainly a lot of egos in politics and a lot of folks that maybe have expectations, or their constituents have expectations, and they want to be on the inside," O'Brien said.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.


 
 
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David Amos
Anyone watch an election analysis on Oct 17, 2024 for the 2024 New Brunswick general election, discussing the very pivotal choice New Brunswickers will make on October 21st??? 
 
 
 
David Amos
"It's not easy at all," said Jordan O'Brien, a chief of staff to former Liberal premier Brian Gallant.

O'Brien said they represent "a lot of talent, high-profile talent," including Aaron Kennedy, who he called a "giant-killer" for defeating Progressive Conservative Leader Blaine Higgs in his Quispamsis riding.

John Herron, elected in Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins, told an Oct. 2 candidates debate that his experience as an MP in Ottawa, and with the New Brunswick Business Council and the Energy and Utilities Board, "position me to play a senior role in a new government."

Everybody knows why I ran against both those dudes 20 years apart

 
 
David Amos
Why is it that I was not surprised "Porter O'Brien" did not call me back yesterday?

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Jordan O'Brien and Erin Brandt Filliter join CHCO-TV's Nathalie Sturgeon for an election analysis on the 2024 New Brunswick general election, discussing the very pivotal choice New Brunswickers will make on October 21st.

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danny rugg
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maybe because you had the lowest vote count in the ENTIRE province. Would that do it?

David Amos
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Nope Its because Holt was ethical enough to explain my lawsuit against the Crown in front of a crowd of old folks and several other candidates including the Green leader before the writ was dropped in 2018. Gallant as the Premier and O'Brien as his Chief of Staff can never forget that simple fact
 
David Amos
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Whereas you are concerned about vote counts lets go back 20 years

How many votes did I get running against Herron Fundy Royal in 2004?

 
 
William Murdoch 
Are they still on schedule to welcome 4500 refugees to NB?
 
David Amos
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Ask Higgy while he is still in charge 
 
 
 
Leonard Corcoran 
Slim pickings & slim just left town . 
 
Graham McCormack 
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Perfect description of Higgs and what he had to work with.
 
David Amos
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Nope he is still the boss til Nov 2nd  
 
 
 
Dan Lee 
Is Yannah and Outhouse booted yet...........................  
 
David Amos
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They are waiting for their golden handshakes 
 
 

 
 

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N.B. official admits 'Be' slogan was failure

A senior New Brunswick government communications official admits the province's former "Be…in this place" slogan was a failure and cost more than three times the amount budgeted.

Tim Porter, the deputy minister of Communications New Brunswick, told the Legislature's public accounts committee on Wednesday that the idea wasn't to capture the province's geography or its scenery, but rather how New Brunswickers feel about the place.

However, the slogan never caught on, said Porter, who worked on the slogan campaign under the previous Liberal government.

"People give the government quite a bit of latitude to come up with its own slogans, but when you take that as a provincial slogan, as an identifier, as what we are as a province, it didn't get that level of acceptance," he said.

PC MLAs grilled Porter about the slogan and how much it cost for two hours.

The Graham Liberals unveiled "Be ... in this place" in 2008 and put it on licence plates in 2009.

Cost jumped

Porter said the cost of the slogan and marketing materials jumped to $840,000 from the anticipated $229,000.

The Alward government dropped the unpopular slogan in March, but continues to use the graphic design adopted by the Liberals. 

"So do you think those consultants would be interested in giving us half our money back, considering we're only using half their work? I'm kidding," said PC MLA Glen Savoie.

He zeroed in on the decision to put "Be…in this place" on New Brunswick licence plates 18 months after the slogan was launched, despite the fact it wasn't embraced by the public.

"So nobody had figured out at this point that it wasn't really catching on?" he asked.

People weren't really aware of the slogan until it went on their plates, said Porter.

"It wasn't applying to people's life directly, and you know people feel quite attached to their cars, and it was noticed," he said.

Porter said the slogan remains in use in some provincial ad campaigns to avoid having to pay new consultants to come up with a new catchphrase.

New Brunswick licence plates carried the "Picture Province" tagline until 1972. Between 1972 and 2009, the licence plates had no tagline.

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