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Longtime PC supporters face a dilemma in high-profile Hampton election race

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Longtime PC supporters face a dilemma in high-profile Hampton election race

Faytene Grasseschi’s candidacy has driven many party supporters to back Liberal candidate

For Dorothy MacDonald, and lifelong Progressive Conservatives like her in Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins, this month's New Brunswick election represents an agonizing choice.

MacDonald worked for almost three years as the constituency assistant for Gary Crossman, a former MLA and PC cabinet minister.

Yet she's not sure she can vote for the party she has supported since she was a child.

"I still haven't made up my mind. I'm still anxious," she said after attending a recent candidates debate at Hampton High School.

"Two of the candidates have never been to my house, so I'd really like to have more one-on-one with them. It's been very difficult."

MacDonald is not alone. Her decision, and the choice of other PC stalwarts in the riding, will not only determine who gets elected here but could have a role in shaping the future of the PC Party itself.

Many longtime party supporters were upset last December when Christian conservative activist Faytene Grasseschi was nominated as the candidate over the objections of Crossman and members of the PC riding association board.

"My personal and political beliefs no longer align in many ways with the direction of our party and government," Crossman said when he resigned as minister and MLA in April.

Dorothy MacDonald Dorothy MacDonald is a self-described life-long Progressive Conservative in Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins, but she's unsure how she will vote this time. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Grasseschi has been a Christian activist for two decades and has been accused of harbouring extreme views on issues such as gay rights and abortion.

In her 2009 book Marked, she wrote, "We are to make disciples of every people, group and culture, yes … and teach nations to obey all that the Lord has commanded."

At last December's nomination, PC Leader Blaine Higgs praised "the conviction, the determination and the pure ability" of Grasseschi and said her candidacy was part of a "revolution" within the PC Party.

That makes the Hampton race, and Grasseschi's possible presence in a future PC caucus, a potential turning point for the party itself, as Tories wrestle with a more socially conservative direction or return to the political centre. 

Longtime Hampton PC supporter Al Walker said in an interview that her nomination, and Higgs's attitude, were the breaking points for him.

"I just had to change this time. … I said 'enough's enough.' She would be a national embarrassment if we elected her," he said.

Al Walker    Al Walker is one of the Progressive Conservatives from the riding who persuaded John Herron to run for the Liberals. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Walker is one of the Tories who convinced former federal PC MP John Herron, who switched to the federal Liberals toward the end of his House of Commons tenure, that he should run as the provincial Liberal candidate in Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins.

"I've never donated to the Liberal Party before in my life," Walker said. "This time I certainly have, and I was proud to do so, because this will make the difference."

Last Wednesday's debate was the first time Herron, Grasseschi and the other candidates shared a stage.

The event, organized by the Hampton Area Chamber of Commerce, attracted about 250 people.

WATCH | Four candidates clashed in Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins election debate:
 

Hampton candidates clash in high-profile race

Liberal John Herron calls his PC opponent “fringe,” but Faytene Grasseschi pushes back and cites the Charter in Hampton election debate.

Chamber president Luke MacGregor said the high-profile nature of the race is generating a lot of discussion.

"It's a bit more exciting than it has been in the past," said MacGregor, who has heard lots of election talk at the local craft brewery he owns. 

"We have a big crowd Friday nights, and that is the number one topic until everybody has moved on to the next couple of rounds."

Grasseschi told the crowd that she decided to get into provincial politics last year when she saw Higgs "assaulted by the liberal media" over his changes to Policy 713.

Faytene Grasseschi Grasseschi told the audience she was inspired to run last year when she saw Premier Blaine Higgs being 'assaulted by the liberal media' for his stance on Policy 713, which is about gender identity in schools. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

Those changes require school staff to obtain consent from parents if a student under 16 wants to adopt a new name or pronoun reflecting their gender identity.

Before the change, parental consent wasn't required.

But after raising the issue, Grasseschi pivoted, saying that knocking on doors in the riding, "the number one issue that I heard about is cost of living."

Throughout the night she articulated the PC Party positions on issues from the environment to property taxes and from health care to housing.

She departed from the party line twice: to say she was open to "a conversation" about not applying sales taxes to N.B. Power bills – as the Liberals have promised — and to an inquiry on forest clearcutting and glyphosate spraying.

Herron argued that Grasseschi, who lives just outside the riding, doesn't represent the political mainstream and that he is the only one who can defeat her.

John Herron and Peter Graham Herron, left, speaks with People's Alliance candidate Peter Graham after the debate in Hampton. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

He referred to her as "this version of the Conservatives, whose candidacy lives outside the fringes of this riding, who represents an extreme fringe politics that goes beyond the modern traditions of the province." 

Answering a question about 2SLGBTQ+ issues, Grasseschi argued her opponents have denigrated her based on things she said 20 years ago.

"Let me tell you what I believe in 2024," she said. "I believe in the Charter [of Rights and Freedoms]."

She read from Section 2 of the Charter, which guarantees freedom of religion, expression and assembly, among others. 

"I would run in front of a bullet to protect these fundamental rights and freedoms for our LGBTQ+ kids and for every single one of us, no matter who we are and how we express ourselves," she said.

She did not mention other sections of the Charter, such as Section 7 protecting security of the person — the clause that led to the decriminalization of abortion — or Section 15 on equality, which helped pave the way to legalize same-sex marriage.

Grasseschi has been attacked, mocked and insulted on social media for her views, including by critics who have posted old videos of her speaking in tongues and claiming to heal people through faith.

"I'd like to propose that there's been no one in this town that has been more bullied, more shamed, more harassed online, than the woman that you're looking at right now," she said at the debate.

"But you know what? That doesn't change who I am. I still love, and I'll still fight for you and your loved ones, and I still care." 

Laura Myers Green candidate Laura Myers, right, argued that Herron is not the only person who can beat Grasseschi. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Four other candidates are running in Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins, though the NDP and Libertarian candidates did not appear at Wednesday's debate.

The Green Party's Laura Myers rejected Herron's argument that only the Liberals can block Grasseschi. 

"The comment I hear the most at the door is 'Well, I know who I'm not voting for,'" she said. "You can't get what you want by voting for what you don't want."

Myers, a welll-known community volunteer and former teacher, earned enthusiastic applause from many of the people at the debate.

People's Alliance candidate Peter Graham said he also left the PC Party over its direction and argued the formerly right-leaning, populist Alliance is now a moderate, middle-of-the-road option.

"We reject extremism," he said. "We've got this dichotomy of the Liberal Party and the PCs, and they're at loggerheads and they won't work collaboratively on anything. … As a centrist party, we can bridge that gap."

For MacDonald, the lifelong PC member and former assistant to Crossman, the 90 minutes of discussion wasn't enough for her to make a decision.

"The first part of the debate, I was saying, 'This is the way I'm going to go.' Then in the second part, things changed around a bit," she said.

Ultimately, she said, the fraying of old party loyalties may be healthy.

"In some ways it's good, because it's really got people thinking outside the box," she said.

"It really makes you look at what's going on, instead of saying, 'I'm a PC, I'm always going to be a PC.' Now I'm starting to look at party policies, what people are saying, what the constituents are saying, and really listening." 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

 
 
 
527 Comments

 
David Amos
Methinks everybody must know why I am running against Higgy N'esy Pas?   
 
 
David Amos 
Yo Faytene Grasseschi Welcome to the circus in my neck of the woods  
 
Lynette Browne
Reply to David Amos 
Yes, the conservative circus. 



David Amos
"Throughout the night she articulated the PC Party positions on issues from the environment to property taxes and from health care to housing.

She departed from the party line twice: to say she was open to "a conversation" about not applying sales taxes to N.B. Power bills – as the Liberals have promised — and to an inquiry on forest clearcutting and glyphosate spraying."

Good for her

Allan Marven 
Reply to David Amos
All those are old issues, and should have been dealt with years ago. 
 
David Amos
Reply to Allan Marven 
Have they?
 
Deborah Reddon 
Reply to David Amos
Very odd how she was selective about what part of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms she agreed with. 



David Amos

"Four other candidates are running in Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins, though the NDP and Libertarian candidates did not appear at Wednesday's debate"

Were they invited???

Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to David Amos
The organizers probably thought they were irrelevant...a waste of time?
 
David Amos
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
I resemble that remark
 
David Amos
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
BTW Grasseschi's computer and that of a couple of her opponents acknowledged my email about the "Leader's Platform Forum" yesterday which I was invited to 
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to David Amos
..but David I understand you are letting your stand in Quispamsis..good for you! So many of us yap away but otherwise are gutless. 
 
David Amos
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
FYI I ran against Herron 20 years ago 
 
David Amos

Reply to David Amos
"In February 2004, Herron announced that he would leave the newly merged Conservatives to sit as an Independent and would run as a Liberal in this election." 
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to David Amos 
Didn't realize that David,but then again I was barely out of diapers...I'm thinking.

David Amos
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
I encountered Herron numerous times during EUB hearings since 2016 and he would not respond to me However I spoke to Grasseschi personally months ago. I bet you can guess what I told her 
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to David Amos 
Being known as a fair person you robably wished her well.
 
David Amos
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
We wished the same thing on each other minutes ago

 
 
Gerald Smith
In our election in Saskatchewan, the Christian right is trying the same thing, not as extreme candidates but got Scott Moe to waste time and resources on a pronoun policy which we didn’t need. They just steal time and energy from the real issues,
 
Anne Wallenberg
Reply to Gerald Smith
The dead cat strategy, also known as deadcatting, is the political strategy of deliberately making a shocking announcement to divert media attention away from problems or failures in other areas.
 
David Amos

Reply to Anne Wallenberg
Trust that I enjoy it when they play that wicked game

 
 
Ralph Skavinsky
We should get over the fact big business does/will factor in when it comes to running the economy, etc. They also put food on the table for many regardless of the fact they have/will receive what many think are "favours" from our governments. With regards to religion we've seemed to have gone down the drain and into the sewers since church attendance has severely declined. And, yes I know thru the ages religion has had their problems and that's because people are...people with their own sometimes what I'll call misguided minds. But I feel if we just cast our thoughts on Jesus all will be well in the end.

MR Cain
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
Big difference between religion and faith.
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to MR Cain
Yes of course there is..sorry I should have said that because that's exactly what I believe and I guess I thought maybe that was a given
 
MR Cain
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
Church attendance should be mandatory?
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to MR Cain
Nope..did someone suggest that MR? If one however does humble them selves and trust in God they might find their life a little less burdensome. It has actually worked for me anyway. I trust you are also of the same mind?
 
MR Cain
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
I have faith; I don't practice religion.
 
Graham McCormack
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
So everyone should become Christian?
 
David Amos
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
Guess who I was just talking to
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to Graham McCormack
That would be the idea given there is but one Christ who shows how we might live our lives.
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to David Amos
Umm.. the Great Pumpkin in Charlie Brown comics? Or maybe my uncle Gordon or Aunt Sally? No??
 
David Amos
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
Nope
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to David Amos
Aw shucks...maybe the new Consensus Party??
 
David Amos
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
Try again  

 
 
 
Anne Wallenberg
In Marked, a book published in 2009, Grasseschi wrote that the legalization of same-sex marriage "gave sodomistic strongholds greater leverage and greater access over the mindsets of the citizens of Canada."

She suggested the 2005 change could lead to people marrying animals, including "man and dog, woman and fish," and said she would continue fighting to reverse it.
 
John Power
Reply to Anne Wallenberg
Was she wrong?
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to John Power
She was right!
 
Allan Marven  
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So what if she doesn't prove to be.
 
Allan Marven  
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Does she believe that dinosaurs once roamed the earth?
 
Anne Wallenberg
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Source:
PCs should have banned Grasseschi from running, Green candidate says

Christian conservative’s 2009 book condemned legalization of same-sex marriage, promised to fight it

Jacques Poitras

Jan 16, 2024
 
David Amos

Reply to Anne Wallenberg
20 Years ago

Tory-turned-Liberal John Herron loses

CBC News · Posted: Jun 29, 2004 8:22 AM ADT

Liberal incumbent John Herron has lost his New Brunswick riding to Conservative Rob Moore.

Moore received less than 35 per cent of the popular vote, while NDP Pat Hanratty came in third with 16 per cent.

Moore is a lawyer and helped organize the Canadian Alliance in the riding in the late 1990s, running in 2000.

Herron represented the riding for two terms as a Progressive Conservative, but spoke against the merger. He said he believes the union of the Alliance and Progressive Conservative parties has swung his former party too far to the right for his comfort.

This area has given its support to the Progressive Conservatives in every election for the past 80 years, save for 1993, when Liberal Paul Zed won office. Zed was then beaten in 1997 by Herron.

In February 2004, Herron announced that he would leave the newly merged Conservatives to sit as an Independent and would run as a Liberal in this election. 
 
David Amos
Reply to Anne Wallenberg
Oh My My 



Dennis Atchison
Regardless of the story contents, this piece represents the media's subtle yet constant attempt to influence the election outcome. Measured by column inches, it is clear the "lean" is Conservative ... as Poitras dedicated the great majority of the story to only one aspect (personality instead of issues of one candidate) and almost all the attention is on her, which is what she and the Conservatives want. Meanwhile, the other choices and information needed by voters is given much less attention, even though other candidates were present at the event. It is as if there were only one candidate, instead of several. Bad news for voters trying to find out from their media sources all the options available to them in this election. The influence by CBC is clear in this riding ... and voters left in the dark on their democratic choices by our National Broadcaster.
 
Allan Marven
Reply to Dennis Atchison
Sounds like a PCNB rant to me.
 
Deborah Reddon
Reply to Dennis Atchison
Clearly this riding is of upmost interest given the PC candidate was handpicked by the current Premier who showed disregard and disdain for the choices of the local Conservative party. It is a very controversial choice given her strong views on religion and how it should be practised. It's also important that voters know this candidate is very selective on what parts of the Chart of Rights and Freedoms she believes in. A third interesting point with this candidate is that she does not live in the riding.
 
Lynette Browne
Reply to Dennis Atchison
I'm gueesing you are not happy with te facts.
 
MR Cain
Reply to Dennis Atchison
This is an analysis.
 
David Amos
Reply to Dennis Atchison
Remember me?
 
Lynette Browne
Reply to Lynette Browne
Sorry for the early morning sp mistakes.
 
David Amos
Reply to Lynette Browne
I'm not
 
Lynette Browne
Reply to David Amos
Relevance? none.

David Amos
Reply to Lynette Browne
They deleted my reply to you in which I deliberately misspelled as word
Hidden comment.
The avatar of ""
content deactivated
 
Eileen Kinley
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How is this a 'hit piece' ?
 
MR Cain
Reply to Eileen Kinley
It is election interference by those who hide their identity.
 
David Amos
Reply to Eileen Kinley
Perhaps you should read it again
 
Lynette Browne
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Analysis.
 
David Amos
Reply to Lynette Browne
A left wing anal y sis
 
 
 
Lynette Browne
Wow, the PC party is really falling off the edge with this candidate, Grasseschei. I sure hope citizens use commone sense and a reality check.
 
Felix Mitchell
Reply to Lynette Browne
She's excellent.
 
Lynette Browne
Reply to Felix Mitchell
Yes, at preaching and suppressing human rights.

David Amos
Reply to Lynette Browne
Our PM does the same thing 
 
Tom Campbell
Reply to Lynette Browne
Another youtube star. PP's footsteps.

 
Daniel Henwell
Faytene is correct about the liberal media. They are trying their best to run down PC candidates with every piece they write.

Allan Marven
Reply to Daniel Henwell
And I thank them for that.
 
Allan Marven
Reply to Allan Marven
And I ain't no Liberal as my voting in the next federal election will show.
 
Deborah Reddon
Reply to Daniel Henwell
The story is factual, it's pointing out that the candidate was not the choice of the local PC riding. That's not 'running down' the Party.

David Amos
Reply to Daniel Henwell
Amen 

Felix Mitchel

Reply to Allan Marven
NDPer 
 
 
 
buster jones
It should be easy to decide knowing what the mess the present leader has left to fix , never mind adding religion to heal everything. Use brain.

David Amos
Reply to buster jones
Ditto 

 
 
Free Palestine
There is no place for any religion in Canadian politics and it is time our Constitution for re-written to remove the mention of a mythical being.
 
Akimbo Alogo
Reply to Free Palestine
Says "Free Palestine" .....really.
 
Dan Lee
Reply to Free Palestine
Because you say so.......
 
Allan Marven
Reply to Akimbo Alogo
Let's concentrate on Canadian issues.

David Amos
Reply to Free Palestine
I concur with the Separation of Church and State
 

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6529190

 

 

Tory-turned-Liberal John Herron loses

Liberal incumbent John Herron has lost his New Brunswick riding to Conservative Rob Moore.

Moore received less than 35 per cent of the popular vote, while NDP Pat Hanratty came in third with 16 per cent.

Moore is a lawyer and helped organize the Canadian Alliance in the riding in the late 1990s, running in 2000.

Herron represented the riding for two terms as a Progressive Conservative, but spoke against the merger. He said he believes the union of the Alliance and Progressive Conservative parties has swung his former party too far to the right for his comfort.

This area has given its support to the Progressive Conservatives in every election for the past 80 years, save for 1993, when Liberal Paul Zed won office. Zed was then beaten in 1997 by Herron.

In February 2004, Herron announced that he would leave the newly merged Conservatives to sit as an Independent and would run as a Liberal in this election.

CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
 
 

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