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Fredericton turns to N.B. commission to help settle standoff over funding for new pool

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Fredericton turns to N.B. commission to help settle standoff over funding for new pool

Local Governance Commission would weigh in on whether new pool should be financed regionally

A newly formed provincial commission is being asked to help resolve an impasse between New Brunswick municipalities that has left a proposed aquatic centre in procedural limbo.

Fredericton city councillors voted Monday to ask the Local Governance Commission to intervene after directors with the Capital Regional Service Commission failed to agree on whether the multimillion dollar project should be funded by neighbouring communities or solely by the city.

"If this can't be called a regional facility, I search and I search to see what would justify a facility being regional in nature," Coun. Eric Megarity said.

"It's sad that it comes down to this and I'm really disappointed."

A new aquatic centre has long been on the list of capital projects the city has planned to pursue. Pressure has mounted in recent years in light of the University of New Brunswick's plan to close the Sir Max Aitken Pool, where the city's competitive swim clubs are based.

Speaking to councillors on Monday, chief administrative officer Steve Hart said that in the past, the city would have to initiate large capital projects on its own and seek funding partners to make them happen.

A pool with four diving boards and people swimming The aging Sir Max Aitken Pool is the only competitive swimming pool in Fredericton, and the 2020 estimated cost of a replacement was $40 million. (Fredericton Diving Club)

Since local government reform in 2023, Hart said, the province has indicated it will only help fund large sport, recreational and cultural infrastructure if an entire region is working together to share costs.

The Capital Regional Service Commission, also known as RSC 11, is governed by a board of directors that includes the mayors of the municipalities within the region's boundaries.

In May, a committee within the regional commission recommended the proposed new pool be considered regional, with a cost-sharing formula based on population, tax base and proximity to the pool.

But in June, members of the board voted down three separate motions to categorize the aquatic centre as regional, sub-regional or local, leaving the project in procedural limbo.

A man wearing a shirt and suit jacket in Fredericton council chambers. Steve Hart, the chief administrative officer for the City of Fredericton, says a decision by the Capital Regional Service Commission's board in June has left the pool project in an unclear position. (Aidan Cox/CBC)

"So the outcome, at this point, procedurally is unclear," Hart said.

"What was clear is that the majority of mayors of our region indicated that they did not want to participate in funding the pool via the RSC.

"And that leaves us, the City of Fredericton, in a predicament in terms of what are those pathways and how do we get there when there is an absolute need for an aquatic facility in in the city."

Uncharted territory

Monday's vote by councillors is aimed at getting the Local Governance Commission to review the decision by the regional commission, but the potential outcome is unclear, said Coun. Greg Ericson, who fills in for Mayor Kate Rogers as director when she's unavailable.

Ericson said he believes the pool project would be first to go through the review process and to be analyzed against the provisions in the Regional Services Delivery Act.

But he said he hopes the commission can either rule on whether the project should be regional or send the question back to the regional commission to decide.

A man wearing a suit and tie speaks inside Fredericton city council chambers. Fredericton Coun. Greg Ericson says it's unclear how the Local Governance Commission will rule, but he hopes it helps settle whether the pool project should be paid for partly by neighbouring communities or solely by the city. (Aidan Cox/CBC)

"We would like to see them clarify how the act was supposed to be interpreted and then performed because, I mean, I don't think it was the intent of the legislators to have a facility come out through this process undetermined, right?" Ericson said.

According to information on the province's website, the Local Governance Commission is an arm's-length, independent expert body that is mandated to rule or make recommendations on matters affecting local governments, local boards, regional service commissions and rural districts.

The resolution voted for on Monday also has the city asking the province if it would help fund the pool, even if it doesn't get support from regional partners.

Ericson said the city hoped to build the pool with help from neighbouring municipalities.

Without that, the project would cost Fredericton residents more and would result in steep user fees for people living just outside city limits.

A cost estimate for the aquatic centre hasn't been provided since 2020, when it was pegged at about $40 million, and a detailed design process for the proposed pool is still underway.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Aidan Cox

Journalist

Aidan Cox is a journalist for the CBC based in Fredericton. He can be reached at aidan.cox@cbc.ca and followed on Twitter @Aidan4jrn.

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33 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos  
Steve Hart should answer his emails 
 
David Amos  
Reply to David Amos 
From: David Amos
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:09:22 -0400
Subject: Attn Steven Hart Remember me? Perhaps we should have a long
talk ASAP 
 
 
 
Rich Hatfield  
$40 million hole in the ground and Freddy has people sleeping rough.

Get your priorities right.

MR Cain
Reply to Rich Hatfield 
Those sleeping rough have choices. 
 
Bob Smith 
Reply to Rich Hatfield 
Freddy is building that shiny new Playhouse as well. Priorities have never changed...
 
David Amos 

Reply to Bob Smith  
Rich Folks in Fat Fred City know how to pray eh? 
 
 
 
Max Ruby
Just fix up the Sir Max Aitken Pool, NBers are taxed out, they are property taxed to the max. If Holt wants a rent cap fix the root cause. Greedy property tax, highest in all of Canada.
 
MR Cain
Reply to Max Ruby  
Sir Max Aitken Pool does not meet current demands. 
 
Max Ruby 
Reply to MR Cain 
The tax payers don't want it nor can they afford it: "What was clear is that the majority of mayors of our region indicated that they did not want to participate in funding the pool...And that leaves us, the City of Fredericton, in a predicament..."

Ask the people of Fredericton via referendum if they want to pay for it or if they can even afford higher taxes with electricity rates up, property tax up, food up, insurance up, every service cost is up. Wages are stagnant. Need vs want.

MR Cain
Reply to Max Ruby 
I just asked the people of Fredericton; they said they wanted the new pool.
 
David Amos 
Reply to Max Ruby
The City of Fredericton IS a predicament  
 
 
 
TERRY HAY   
I would rather my tax monies go towards fixing bridges than a pool that most of my community will not use. Take a drive to Stanley along the Nashwaak or by the Royal Road, most bridges are down to one lane only or weight restrictions for trucks. Better yet, build your pool out here in the Nashwaak Rural Community. Lots of land out here but I bet you don't want to spend your money out here.... 
 
David Amos 
Reply to TERRY HAY  
Well put 
 
 
 
Randy Dumont
The city of Fredericton should be responsible for raising its own capital instead of shamelessly expecting other communities to pay for their infrastructure projects.

Loran Hayden 
Reply to Randy Dumont
The province can step up and offer some money for its capital city. 
 
Matt Steele 
Reply to Randy Dumont
I agree completely. Then charge everyone outside city limits 3 times as much to use it. 
 
Matt Steele 
Reply to Loran Hayden 
Higgs needs the money for the Saint John museum. Which by the way, I am very excited about. 
 
Randy Dumont 
Reply to Loran Hayden
The solution isn’t looking for others to pay for a bread and circuses project at a time when their are communities with real needs. 
 
TERRY HAY 
Reply to Matt Steele 
Maybe we should charge everyone coming out to our community for ATVing, kayaking, tubing, hunting and fishing.
 
Matt Steele 
Reply to TERRY HAY 
That works for me. I'm not a hillbilly. But I do like museums.
 
Chris Merriam 
Reply to Matt Steele  
So these are "hillbilly exclusive" ventures then according to you?
 
Matt Steele 
Reply to Chris Merriam 
That is correct.
 
David Amos   
Reply to Matt Steele 
I am a hillbilly who likes museums and swimming holes
 
David Amos  
Reply to David Amos 
 
 
 
Larry Finnley 
Lets bicker and drag this out for another 3 years with commisions and independant"experts" so the cost will double or triple.

- your local councillors , mayors and politicians

Matt Steele 
Reply to Larry Finnley 
Yes. Like Higgs did with the Fredericton courthouse.
 
David Amos   
Reply to Matt Steele 
Bingo 


 

Invasion of the giant goldfish: Pets overrun local swimming hole

Discarded goldfish grow and multiply, potentially causing chaos in local ecosystem

Getting a goldfish is easy. 

Getting rid of them? That's a whole other story.

On a hot August afternoon at the Cuts — a popular swimming hole in Springfield, near the head of Belleisle Bay — swimmers paddle and dive off the tall cliffs. 

Darting through the water are dozens of orange, white and calico goldfish. 

Some are thumb-sized, like the ones you'd see in a pet store. Others are bigger than your hand. 

A handful of goldfish were in the Cuts last summer. But this year, they've multiplied — and fattened up. 

The Cuts, as it's called by locals, is a popular swimming hole and hangout known for its crystal-clear water. (Julia Wright / CBC)

"To be honest, they are the biggest goldfish I've ever seen," said Saint Johner Riley Keenan, who estimates some fish are 10 inches, or about 25 centimetres, long. 

"it's just a weird thing to see."

 "I've swam with fish before," said swimmer Bonnie Ferguson."But goldfish? Not so much."

How'd they get there?

The goldfish didn't get to the Cuts on their own. 

The best theory is that "they were someone's pet that they released," said Graeme Stewart Robertson, executive director of the Atlantic Coastal Action Program in Saint John.

One of the beefier specimens sharing the water with swimmers at the Cuts. (Brian Chisholm / CBC)

Goldfish sell at local pet stores from just 29 cents to $7 apiece — making them an easy impulse buy.

But the consequences of setting Goldie free are far-reaching.  

"When they're released in the wild, they can grow much larger — sometimes even a couple of feet long or longer," he said. 

Rogue goldfish have also been spotted in Rockwood Park's Fisher Lakes and other bodies of water in the Saint John region, according to Stewart-Robertson. 

ACAP workers pulling a shopping cart out of Ritchie Lake in Quispamsis once found  "a goldfish that had grown so large that it clearly couldn't have entered through the gaps of the cart mesh metal anymore," Stewart-Robertson said.

Hundreds of huge goldfish invaded a swimming hole near Saint John

Experts suspect they're pets released by locals, but they've been known to throw ecosystems into chaos.

"They grow to the size of the environment."

In the Cuts — a pool formed when gravel pit excavators hit a natural spring — the goldfish are isolated from other waterways. 

But elsewhere, fugitive goldfish are a serious problem. 

Graeme Stewart Robertson, executive director of the Atlantic Coastal Action Program in Saint John, says the release of pet goldfish into the wild can have far-reaching consequences. (Julia Wright / CBC)

They've choked out ponds in St. Albert, Alta., closed fishing lakes near Terrace, B.C., and invaded the harbour in Hamilton, Ont. 

In Hamilton, scientists with Fisheries and Oceans Canada started banding and tracking the fish after up to two million goldfish were estimated to live in the harbour in 2016. 

They tear up vegetation — and with no natural predators — throw the local aquatic ecosystem into chaos.

Workers sedate and tag a giant goldfish in Hamilton Harbour on Lake Ontario. (Fisheries and Oceans Canada)

"They'll just keep feeding and growing for many years until they're causing competition problems for local, native fish," Stewart-Robertson said.  

The Cuts quarry is deep enough that goldfish can spend the winter below the frost line and return in the spring to keep breeding.

"Unless something eats them," Stewart-Robertson said.

Regular-sized goldfish — a paltry one or two inches long, compared to the monstrous sizes they can grow to in the wild — swim at a tank in a pet store in Saint John. (Julia Wright / CBC)

"I'm sure there are some local birds of prey who are looking forward to easily spotting a bright fish in the environment."

Radical anti-goldfish measures employed elsewhere in Canada include include electrocuting them or killing them with a natural pesticide called Rotenone.

But for the people flocking to the Cuts to swim and take pictures, swimming with the fishes is a novelty — at least for now.

 Hunter, pictured with some of the hundreds of goldfish in the Cuts. (Julia Wright / CBC)

"It's kind of a nice surprise when you're out for a swim," said Riley Keenan. 

"It's a cool experience to see them here."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Julia Wright

Host, Information Morning Saint John

Julia Wright is the host of Information Morning Saint John on CBC Radio 1. She previously worked as a digital reporter focused on stories from southwestern New Brunswick. She has a master's degree in English from McGill University, and has been with the CBC since 2016. You can reach her at julia.wright@cbc.ca.

 
 

17 Comments

 

David Amos 
I wonder what they taste like with a little salt and pepper and lemon. 
 
 
 
David Amos  
 
 
Neville Crabbe 
Like the Don't be a Litterbug campaign, it's time to roll out something substantial about aquatic invasive species. Imagine the mindset of a person just loosing a fish into the environment...unbelievable. The same people worried about killing a fish might go home and mindlessly mow into a half dozen hotdogs. We don't dump old gas and antifreeze in our waterways (much) anymore. Generally, introducing invasive fish species can have far worse consequences. We need to get that message across to the public. 
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to Neville Crabbe
I remember you 
 
 
 
 

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