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EUB hears call for lower increases to avoid rate shocks

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EUB hears call for lower increases to avoid rate shocks

Consultant says the increases sought among the largest he's seen a utility request — outside Alberta

An accounting expert was the final witness to testify during an Energy and Utilities Board hearing Wednesday about N.B. Power's proposed rate increases.  

Dustin Madsen is a Calgary-based consultant hired by the public intervener to review the utility's proposed power rate increases. 

Madsen called for the board to impose lower increases to avoid rate shock, which could see people unable to pay their bills and put some businesses at risk of closure. 

"A rate increase of this magnitude would cause, for a fixed-income customer, quite a lot of shock," Madsen said.

A 10 per cent increase is generally considered the threshold for "rate shock," he said. The average increase sought for all customers is 9.25 per cent for this year and next year. 

When combined with other increases, figures presented to the board by N.B. Power show a total increase for residential customers of 13.2 per cent in the first year, 15.3 per cent for large industrial customers, and 11.5 per cent for small industrial customers. 

A white man with brown hair wearing a blue suit. Dustin Madsen, a consultant from Calgary hired to evaluate N.B. Power's rate increase request, called for a lower rate than proposed. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

He said the increases sought are among the largest he's seen a utility request outside Alberta, which has a deregulated energy market. 

His comments came during cross-examination by representatives of the Human Development Council and municipally-owned utilities like Saint John Energy.

"One of the potential risks of rate shocks is increased disconnections for people that can't afford the electricity, those people that are most in that poverty group. Would you agree with that?" Ryan Burgoyne, a lawyer representing municipal utilities, asked Madsen. 

Yes, he replied. 

"That's why regulators seek to avoid rate shock … because you never want someone to not be able to pay their bill and get disconnected," Madsen said.

His written evidence said the board's overriding consideration should be the affordability of rates. 

He testified the board is in an unenviable position in trying to balance the utility's financial position with the impact on consumers. 

"A constant issue before every regulator in Canada, and the United States for that matter, is the risk of putting a utility into what they call the utility death spiral," Madsen said.

"Which is an issue where your rates are going up so high that more and more customers seek alternative means of consumption or delivery of their service."

Longer-term plan needed, accountant says

He said alternatives could include solar panels, but it's an option that's harder for people with a lower income. 

Madsen called for the board to impose lower rates than N.B. Power has sought and for it to consider a later target date for reducing its reliance on debt. 

The provincial government had ordered the utility to reduce its debt to 80 per cent of the total value of the utility by 2027. But last fall that was moved back to 2029. 

Madsen has suggested the utility should investigate what moving that date even further back would mean, testifying it could allow for lower rates in the near-term. 

In his written evidence, Madsen wrote that "there is no compelling evidence" a date beyond 2029 would be "significantly detrimental to NB Power's financial health or indeed that of the Province of New Brunswick," which borrows on behalf of the utility. 

In a written response filed in February, N.B. Power said it views the directive as something it must comply with and that it followed when producing its rate increase proposal. 

"Not meeting the target by that date would leave N.B. Power less prepared financially for the investments required for the Mactaquac Life Achievement Project and other needs," the utility wrote. 

The board heard in June that work to keep the dam operating into the 2060s could cost in the range of $4.4 billion to $7.2 billion. That's up from a 2016 estimate of $2.9 billion to $3.6 billion. 

A dam and a bridge. The bridge has a layer of orange covering it. The board has heard the cost to keep the Mactaquac Dam operating into the 2060s could be more than $7 billion. (Michael Heenan/CBC)

Darren Murphy, the utility's chief financial officer, said in June that the project was the primary driver behind trying to meet the 2029 equity target. 

Under cross-examination by Glenn Zacher, a lawyer representing J.D. Irving Ltd., Madsen said he wants a plan beyond five years and a later equity deadline to avoid punishing current customers for historically low rates. 

And, Madsen said, without a long-term view the utility could hit the 2029 target and then cut rates. 

"That would also shift burden from a future generation to a current generation," he said.

The board will hear final arguments about the proposed rate increases on Monday.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Shane Magee

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Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC.

 
 
35 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos
The EUB and public intervener's latest accounting expert knows as well as I that NB Power has never been audited until it is these hearing are just very expensive hot air  
 
 
 
Fred Emmersen Turner  
the more people there are, the more rate hikes to the hydro to expect
 
David Amos
Reply to Fred Emmersen Turner 
Why? 
 
 
 
james bolt
The provinces that privatized their grids are in deep trouble

Gregory Wulf
Reply to james bolt
I'm in AB and we seem to be doing better than most.

David Amos
Reply to Gregory Wulf
Surely you jest I saw my brother's power bills in Fort Mac

Gregory Wulf
Reply to David Amos
Did he show you his pay stub as well?

David Amos

Reply to Gregory Wulf
Yup In return I showed him my lawsuit against you know who

Gregory Wulf
Reply to David Amos
That's what I figured.

David Amos
Reply to Gregory Wulf
I bet you read my lawsuit Correct?

Gregory Wul
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Reply to David Amos
If Stronach was "handsy" with you, I agree that you should go after him.

David Amos

Reply to Gregory Wulf
You think you are witty EH?
 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Bingo
 


Holley Hardin

You have 10 MP's in Ottawa and you chose to send a bunch of Liberals and now you complain about the price of energy you pay....

go figure...

David Amos
Reply to Holley Hardin
We have a Conservative government as are four of our MPs  
 
David Amos

Reply to Holley Hardin
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meter-eub-hearings-1.5434186

"Methinks Higgy and Minister Mikey would agree that their silence on this topic speaks volumes to political animals such as I. For a year they could have picked up the phone to stop this "Not So Smart" Meter madness and saved us 100 million loonies in the process. Instead the conservatives opted to roll the dice and leave the matter in the hands of EUB Commissioners all of whom are politically appointed liberal buddies. Its a wicked game and I am very curious as to how it will play out but I have no doubt whatsoever Jacky Boy Keir already knows N'esy Pas?"

 
 
Jim Redmond
I would increase the price whatever is necessary.

David Amos
Reply to Jim Redmond
Why does that not surprise me?

Jim Redmond
Reply to David Amos
Why should the utility suffer?

David Amos
Reply to Jim Redmond
Suffer???

David Amos
Reply to Jim Redmond
Why did NB Power sue the EUB and I?



Denis Van Humbeck
How about no increases. Too much greed going on.

David Amos
Reply to Denis Van Humbeck
Amen

Holley Hardin
Reply to Denis Van Humbeck
Greed?...isn't it a Public Utility?...

MR Cain
Reply to Holley Hardin
He thinks it should be free.

David Amos
Reply to Holley Hardin
Its supposed to be However..........



Greg Miller
Is there anyone out there that knows how to run an electric utility? No experience necessary!

David Amos
Reply to Greg Miller
Go Figure

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meter-eub-hearings-1.5434186



Don Corey
Well, at least this consultant (Madsen) is a Canadian, and not another of those overpriced US "experts".

The EUB is composed primarily of individuals appointed by the Higgs government. Given the pending fall election, they may well decide to go along with Madsen's recommendations, especially when it comes to moving the 2029 date down the road a few more years. The result would be lower rates for all of us in the short term.

Just keep kicking the can down the road.....

David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Don't bet the farm on his opinion



Allan Marven
Keep those zombies on the hot seat for about another month. They'll quit, and then we can restart our power company.

David Amos
Reply to Allan Marven
Dream on



John Pokiok
Remember smart meters well they just put one on my house yesterday. And these useless hearings are just that useless. NB power gets it's way every time so prepare yourself for a huge power rates increase.

David Amos
Reply to John Pokiok
My friend Roger Richard tried very hard to warn everyone

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-hearing-eub-1.4544322

David Conner

Reply to John Pokiok
Stop using multiple accounts bud.
 
 
 
John Dutton
These meetings and hearing are useless because after this sharade NB power gets it's way every time. Remember everyone was against smart meters well guess what they installed one on my house this week and I couldn't do nothing about. So yeah NB prepare yourselves for a huge power hike.

David Amos
Reply to John Dutton
Deja Vu?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-experts-eub-1.4504618

MR Cain
Reply to John Dutton
Smart meters are smart; like the tv. No big deal.

David Amos
Reply to John Dutton
More?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meter-eub-hearings-1.5434186 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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