Tourists, locals decry 'atrocious' condition of highway to provincial park
Route 955 runs past Confederation Bridge and Murray Beach Provincial Park
Tourists and locals alike are decrying the condition of a scenic coastal highway that's used to access a provincial park.
Route 955, which skirts the Northumberland Strait, passing by the Confederation Bridge and Murray Beach Provincial Park, has been crumbling for years, said Stephen Robb, who owns Luella's Country Market in Little Shemogue.
He said the road is so bad that last summer every customer who came into his store commented on its condition.
"It's just ludicrous that the provincial government has let this road get to this condition," said Robb.
"It is part of the Acadian coastal route, in fact it's the first part of it."
Multiple issues
Robb is a member of a group of local residents who are calling on the provincial government to fix the highway.
While most highway lanes are 10 feet wide, there are areas of the road where lanes are only seven feet wide because of deterioration, he said. The shoulders of the road dip in some places, and in others the vegetation on the shoulder is so overgrown that you can't see cars or wildlife coming around corners.
Stephen
Robb, who owns Luella's Country Market in Little Shemogue, is a member
of a group of locals who are calling on the provincial government to fix
the highway. (Jonna Brewer/CBC)
The condition of the highway makes no sense considering how much money the province has put into making Murray Beach attractive to tourists, Robb said.
"I know there's been a lot of upgrades there."
He said he met with Tourism Minister Tammy Scott-Wallace and was told repairing the road would be a priority going forward. But at a later meeting with the Department of Transportation, Robb was told the road was not a priority.
Route 955 passes by Murray Beach Provincial Park, a popular tourist spot the province has spent money updating in recent years. (Jonna Brewer/CBC)
He also claims the province set up traffic counters, used to determine how many cars travel on a road, in April when traffic would be lower, in order to avoid prioritizing the road.
CBC News has reached out to the departments of transportation and tourism for comment.
Highway is 'terrible' say campers
Campers staying at Murray Beach described their journey on the highway with words like "atrocious" or "treacherous."
"The roads are terrible," said John Fudge. "Everything in our trailer was all shook up and I was only going slow."
His travelling companion, Heather Dykeman, said she's travelled to a lot of provincial parks but never had an experience like this.
"This is the worst one," she said. "We were just shocked at the condition of the road to get in here."
Larry Carroll of Miramichi says the campground is nice but the road can be a bit 'scary' at times. (Jonna Brewer/CBC)
Larry Carroll of Miramichi said the campground is nice but the road can be a bit "scary" at times.
"There was a section where there was probably a quarter of the road washed away," said Carroll.
Robb said the continuing deterioration of the road will eventually hurt the tourism sector in the area.
"I think [tourists] come, they look at this and they go, 'that's a really sad place. It's pretty, but it's sad and the government doesn't care about it,'" he said.
With files from Jonna Brewer
53 Comments
David Amos
This is not rocket science Who is the MP and the MLA for the area???
Mario Bellabarba
Green MLA (Mitton), so the PCs are not exactly rushing to help when she complains.
David Amos
Reply to Mario Bellabarba
Bingo BTW she is also my cousin
Daniel Franklin
Most roads in NB are in need of repair. It's atrocious. No amount of safe driving or pothole dodging is enough to ensure your vehicle isn't going to be damaged.
True
David Amos
Reply to Daniel Franklin
True
Hugh MacDonald
If vehicles are required to be road-worthy, shouldn't roads be required to be vehicle-worthy?
Excellent question Do you remember what happened next?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/final-report-due-on-crash-that-killed-u-s-students-1.286675
If vehicles are required to be road-worthy, shouldn't roads be required to be vehicle-worthy?
David Amos
Reply to Hugh MacDonaldExcellent question Do you remember what happened next?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/final-report-due-on-crash-that-killed-u-s-students-1.286675
MJ Anderson
You should see parts of the TCH on Vancouver Island... now that's a disgrace.
Have you looked at parts of our TCH lately???
You should see parts of the TCH on Vancouver Island... now that's a disgrace.
David Amos
Reply to MJ AndersonHave you looked at parts of our TCH lately???
Koffi Babone
Our budgetary surplus hard at work......
Surely you jest
Our budgetary surplus hard at work......
David Amos
Reply to Koffi BaboneSurely you jest
Alison Jackson
You should see the streets in my area. They are atrocious, run down, the bushes never cut back can't see around corners. Potholes in one busy street force the driver to go on the shoulder to get around.
And yet, there is Mr DJ himself proudly showing off his governments surplus. Good job guys! Good job in focusing on pronouns instead of infrastructure.
Why not run against Mr DJ in the next election?
You should see the streets in my area. They are atrocious, run down, the bushes never cut back can't see around corners. Potholes in one busy street force the driver to go on the shoulder to get around.
And yet, there is Mr DJ himself proudly showing off his governments surplus. Good job guys! Good job in focusing on pronouns instead of infrastructure.
David Amos
Reply to Alison JacksonWhy not run against Mr DJ in the next election?
Terry Bull
The internet has videos of a gent in the UK that spray paints a rather graphic/phallic graffiti around each pothole in his neighborhood.
It forces the local government to fill the pothole to get rid of the ugly graffiti.
I would never advocate that anyone do this of course. ;-)
Remember our Pothole Vigilante???
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pothole-vigilante-ordered-to-remove-gravel-could-face-fine-1.2636595
The internet has videos of a gent in the UK that spray paints a rather graphic/phallic graffiti around each pothole in his neighborhood.
It forces the local government to fill the pothole to get rid of the ugly graffiti.
I would never advocate that anyone do this of course. ;-)
David Amos
Reply to Terry BullRemember our Pothole Vigilante???
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pothole-vigilante-ordered-to-remove-gravel-could-face-fine-1.2636595
ralph jacobs
Pot holes another problem from climate change/s.
Yea Right
Pot holes another problem from climate change/s.
David Amos
Reply to ralph jacobsYea Right
Jim Lake
This government has completely failed in its responsibilities to govern in a balanced manner, neglecting much needed and necessary investment in even simply maintaining existing infrastructure. Instead, they’d rather spend taxpayer dollars on an out-of-province Outhouse under the guise of advisor to the premier and on high-priced private sector lawyers to defend misguided government policies. And let’s not forget all the ongoing Irving subsidies or the $66 million ($34 million more than the original $32 million estimate) being spent on a new jail, in a minister’s riding an hour from courts and healthcare services (hence higher transportation costs) that many question the actual need for. The Higgs government has not been good for New Brunswick or New Brunswickers - it’s time for change.
This government has completely failed in its responsibilities to govern in a balanced manner, neglecting much needed and necessary investment in even simply maintaining existing infrastructure. Instead, they’d rather spend taxpayer dollars on an out-of-province Outhouse under the guise of advisor to the premier and on high-priced private sector lawyers to defend misguided government policies. And let’s not forget all the ongoing Irving subsidies or the $66 million ($34 million more than the original $32 million estimate) being spent on a new jail, in a minister’s riding an hour from courts and healthcare services (hence higher transportation costs) that many question the actual need for. The Higgs government has not been good for New Brunswick or New Brunswickers - it’s time for change.
Dianne MacPherson
Reply to Jim Lake
Do you know how many Unions are
negotiating 'new' Contracts with Gov't.
at this time ??
Think about that when commenting on
how our tax dollars are being spent .
Reply to Jim Lake
Do you know how many Unions are
negotiating 'new' Contracts with Gov't.
at this time ??
Think about that when commenting on
how our tax dollars are being spent .
Jim Lake
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
??? … so what are you suggesting? The government shouldn’t negotiate with or offer decent compensation to those that deliver us services? That’s all part of what I refer to as “balanced” governing.
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
??? … so what are you suggesting? The government shouldn’t negotiate with or offer decent compensation to those that deliver us services? That’s all part of what I refer to as “balanced” governing.
Dianne MacPherson
Reply to Jim Lake
"Balance" is not a word that one can use in NB.
The Higgs Gov't in the last two years or so is
governing with one hand tied behind its back.
The *vocal* population 'governs' in NB.
In all honesty , I can't wait for Election Day.....
we need a *reset* !!
Methinks Mr Outhouse is a nervous camper these days N'esy Pas?
Reply to Jim Lake
"Balance" is not a word that one can use in NB.
The Higgs Gov't in the last two years or so is
governing with one hand tied behind its back.
The *vocal* population 'governs' in NB.
In all honesty , I can't wait for Election Day.....
we need a *reset* !!
David Amos
Reply to Jim LakeMethinks Mr Outhouse is a nervous camper these days N'esy Pas?
Garry Mackay
This is far from the only neglected road in NB. The river road along the St. John River Rt. 102 is a draw to tourists now a damaging potholed dangerous trail. The once desirable ferry tour taking the various ferry's along the river is treacherous now. Try taking the Evandale and following the 705 along the lake toward Cambridge Narrows and see if you can navigate the potholed rim bending washed out mess.
They'll put down some random patching just in time to haul sand to the garages for winter and destroy it further.
People take pride in their properties and pay ridiculous taxes and in return they get an uncaring attitude and no pride in the infrastructure. Time for a change IMO.
Amen
It should be a small wonder why I called my Mayor's office and Mr Robb's Mayor's office as well
This is far from the only neglected road in NB. The river road along the St. John River Rt. 102 is a draw to tourists now a damaging potholed dangerous trail. The once desirable ferry tour taking the various ferry's along the river is treacherous now. Try taking the Evandale and following the 705 along the lake toward Cambridge Narrows and see if you can navigate the potholed rim bending washed out mess.
They'll put down some random patching just in time to haul sand to the garages for winter and destroy it further.
People take pride in their properties and pay ridiculous taxes and in return they get an uncaring attitude and no pride in the infrastructure. Time for a change IMO.
David Amos
Reply to Garry MackayAmen
David Amos
Reply to Garry MackayIt should be a small wonder why I called my Mayor's office and Mr Robb's Mayor's office as well
Shevek Anarres
Life is good if the only complaint is the road.
Life is good if the only complaint is the road.
Louis Léger
Reply to Shevek Anarres
Ah yes, because crumbling infrastructure is a hallmark of good governance.
Reply to Shevek Anarres
Ah yes, because crumbling infrastructure is a hallmark of good governance.
Shevek Anarres
Reply to Louis Léger
Agreed, Higgs and his like are terrible at governance.
Reply to Louis Léger
Agreed, Higgs and his like are terrible at governance.
David Webb
Reply to Louis Léger
Paying $2 MILLION PER DAY in interest on a $14 BILLION provincial debt, and the people that vote in favour of this, keep coming back with a hand out for more and complain when services suffer. Wait until the province is bankrupt, for the real fun to start.
Still spinning right eh?
Reply to Louis Léger
Paying $2 MILLION PER DAY in interest on a $14 BILLION provincial debt, and the people that vote in favour of this, keep coming back with a hand out for more and complain when services suffer. Wait until the province is bankrupt, for the real fun to start.
David Amos
Reply to David WebbStill spinning right eh?
Ben DeKraker
Same thing happened on route 114 from hwy 1 into Fundy park and Alma. Road was so bad that tourists decided not to go to Fundy. Was only the loss of tourist dollars that prompted the Higgs government to repair the road. No other reason. He didn’t give a rats behind about the residents who live along that road.
Nope Higgy did it because the National Park was in PC territory
Same thing happened on route 114 from hwy 1 into Fundy park and Alma. Road was so bad that tourists decided not to go to Fundy. Was only the loss of tourist dollars that prompted the Higgs government to repair the road. No other reason. He didn’t give a rats behind about the residents who live along that road.
David Amos
Reply to Ben DeKrakerNope Higgy did it because the National Park was in PC territory
MR Cain
"It is part of the Acadian coastal route..." Well, there you go.
Les Cooper
Change to a dirt road maybe it will be smoother.
Many a true word is said in jest The roads on Crown land are smoother correct?
David Amos
Reply to Les CooperMany a true word is said in jest The roads on Crown land are smoother correct?
Robert Brannen
In my youth, those who opted to partake in camping, and campgrounds, were also prepared to rough it. The countryside differs substantially from the urban and suburban landscape.
In my youth, those who opted to partake in camping, and campgrounds, were also prepared to rough it. The countryside differs substantially from the urban and suburban landscape.
MR Cain
Reply to Robert Brannen
In my youth, we never had RVs with tv.
Reply to Robert Brannen
In my youth, we never had RVs with tv.
Robert Brannen
Reply to MR Cain
In my youth we had neither RVs, nor tvs; however, by the time I had reached my teens there were those who were converting large, retired delivery vans into something they called "campers".
Reply to MR Cain
In my youth we had neither RVs, nor tvs; however, by the time I had reached my teens there were those who were converting large, retired delivery vans into something they called "campers".
Jim Lake
Reply to Robert Brannen
That is hardly an excuse for the Higgs government not to adequately invest in maintaining the province’s infrastructure. Just another example of this government abrogating its responsibilities.
Reply to Robert Brannen
That is hardly an excuse for the Higgs government not to adequately invest in maintaining the province’s infrastructure. Just another example of this government abrogating its responsibilities.
Dianne MacPherson
Reply to Jim Lake
"Just another example of ...Gov't." .......
PC and Liberal.
Reply to Jim Lake
"Just another example of ...Gov't." .......
PC and Liberal.
Jim Lake
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
I’m not disputing that of past governments … but I hold out hope that we will get a new government that governs for ALL New Brunswickers (something Higgs promised to do but has massively failed at) … I hold out hope that we can elect a premier that respects balanced governing and is able to be both fiscally and socially responsible and govern to improve the future for our province and all New Brunswickers. Without this hope, we are all lost.
I like the fact that the roads around my abode are rough It keeps the snobs away
Reply to Dianne MacPherson
I’m not disputing that of past governments … but I hold out hope that we will get a new government that governs for ALL New Brunswickers (something Higgs promised to do but has massively failed at) … I hold out hope that we can elect a premier that respects balanced governing and is able to be both fiscally and socially responsible and govern to improve the future for our province and all New Brunswickers. Without this hope, we are all lost.
David Amos
Reply to Robert BrannenI like the fact that the roads around my abode are rough It keeps the snobs away
Robert Brannen
Reply to Jim Lake
I am not defending any government, just pointing our the fact that it is the responsibility of the vehicle owner to decide how much risk he is willing to take on in operating his vehicle on the roadways of New Brunswick.
Reply to Jim Lake
I am not defending any government, just pointing our the fact that it is the responsibility of the vehicle owner to decide how much risk he is willing to take on in operating his vehicle on the roadways of New Brunswick.
David Amos
Reply to Dianne MacPhersonI concur
David Webb
Reply to Jim Lake
Ya, tell all of the PS unions to lay off. Where do people think the money comes from. Funds for every desire are not unlimited. The future is here. Time to pay the piper for the last 40 years of vote buying. The funny part is the federal government will have to step in to run the province.
Reply to Jim Lake
Ya, tell all of the PS unions to lay off. Where do people think the money comes from. Funds for every desire are not unlimited. The future is here. Time to pay the piper for the last 40 years of vote buying. The funny part is the federal government will have to step in to run the province.
Marc Donohue
In general, it's very frustrating to have significant tax increases (property, fuel/carbon) but the road conditions are left to deteriorate and services are lacking.
There has been no repairs or ditching in my general area for 15 years; the bushes are over the road shoulder and water pooling is significant. I'm sure many others see this in their area, as well.
One year ago a heck of a forest fire started 2 hundred yards from my abode because NB power had been cutting corners for years Nobody would talk about it until I called into a live talk radio show like these folks did this morning
In general, it's very frustrating to have significant tax increases (property, fuel/carbon) but the road conditions are left to deteriorate and services are lacking.
There has been no repairs or ditching in my general area for 15 years; the bushes are over the road shoulder and water pooling is significant. I'm sure many others see this in their area, as well.
David Amos
Reply to Marc DonohueOne year ago a heck of a forest fire started 2 hundred yards from my abode because NB power had been cutting corners for years Nobody would talk about it until I called into a live talk radio show like these folks did this morning
Quinn Castillo
Billions of dollars in fuel taxes are collected annually by different levels of government but most of the money isn’t used for road infrastructure where it is intended but ends up in general revenue.
David Amos
Reply to Quinn CastilloGo Figure
Bobby Richards
Tourism is at the bottom of the list for the Higgs government. And don't expect the tourism minister to raise her voice on this concern. She needs the pay cheque too bad.
You should know
Tourism is at the bottom of the list for the Higgs government. And don't expect the tourism minister to raise her voice on this concern. She needs the pay cheque too bad.
David Amos
Reply to Bobby RichardsYou should know
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We’re making progress on Highway 955.
A delegation of 8 people from Strait Shores will meet with the Minister of Transportation & Infrastructure in Fredericton on February 27 about this section of the Acadian Coastal Route. We are arranging comfortable transportation for delegates.
Our MLA, Megan Mitton, has been fully on board and facilitating contacts to get this done.
Our Mayor, Jason Stokes, has expressed his unequivocal support to get this done.
We have been interviewed by a Sackville-based news reporter.
We now have the support of the Tourism Industry Association of New Brunswick and have asked them to issue a statement in support of the necessary rebuilding of Highway 955.
We have also spoken with the Minister of Tourism, Heritage & Culture who has expressed her interest in fixing this highway in the interest of facilitating smooth traffic to Murray Beach Provincial Park. We have asked her to consider as well that this road is used by thousands of tourists to drive and bike and it is often the first impression they get of New Brunswick.
Finally, we have reached out to our MP, Dominique LeBlanc, to get his support in getting Highway 955 rebuilt. Promoting tourism is a federal government initiative and we’re hoping that they can help with funding.
WE NEED YOU:
> Your stories about just how awful this highway has become
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David Raymond Amos
Tourists, locals decry 'atrocious' condition of highway to provincial park
Route 955 runs past Confederation Bridge and Murray Beach Provincial Park
David Raymond Amos
I just called and left my cell number after I made a comment in CBC correct?
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CBC Radio in Moncton will be airing our interview tomorrow morning, Tuesday, July 9, at 7:35 am about the Route 955 portion of the Acadian Coastal Route.
Regardless of how this fight ends, collectively, we must ensure that Blaine Higgs’ government is defeated this fall so that New Brunswickers can benefit from a progressive alternative which won’t allow our infrastructure and healthcare to disintegrate and ignore the most pressing issues facing New Brunswickers.
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Online story today on CBC New Brunswick about the condition of Route 955. We were interviewed, along with Murray Beach Provincial Park campers.
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From: David Amos<david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:55 AM
Subject: Fwd: As per my calls I trust that the Mayors of Norton, Sackville and Port Elgin should not deny my sending this email EH Higgy?
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From: David Amos<david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:55 AM
Subject: Fwd: As per my calls I trust that the Mayors of Norton, Sackville and Port Elgin should not deny my sending this email EH Higgy?
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Yes Does anyone remember this email???
From: Angela McLean<cao@valleywaters.ca>
Date: Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: Just a Hello What is your number?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: Just a Hello What is your number?
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Hello David.
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Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 1:04 AM
Subject: As per my calls I trust that the Mayors of Norton, Sackville and Port Elgin should not deny my sending this email EH Higgy?
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From: David Amos<david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 1:04 AM
Subject: As per my calls I trust that the Mayors of Norton, Sackville and Port Elgin should not deny my sending this email EH Higgy?
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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:56:36 +0000
Subject: RE: Mr Handrahan I just called again tell your Mayor and his
friends in the RCMP to start lining up lawyers
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:54:45 -0300
Subject: Re: Mr Handrahan I just called again tell your Mayor and his
friends in the RCMP to start lining up lawyers
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<Marco.Mendicino@parl.gc.ca>, vnorton@nbnet.nb.ca
Cc: p.handrahan@sackville.com, j.higham@sackville.com,
t.cole@sackville.com, alfwal@nbnet.nb.ca, motomaniac333
<motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "bruce.wark"<bruce.wark@bellaliant.net>,
simon.serge@kanesatake.ca, "harjit.sajjan"<harjit.sajjan@parl.gc.ca>,
"carolyn.bennett"<carolyn.bennett@parl.gc.ca>,
jean-francois.leblanc@rcmp-
On 7/8/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://warktimes.com/2019/07/
>
>
> https://warktimes.com/2017/08/
>
> Paul Gagne, RCMP Sergeant
>
> 31A Main Street
> Emergency: 911
> Local: 533-5151 (0800-1600 hours)
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> Crimestoppers.ca
>
> Jean-Francois LeBlanc, RCMP Community Program Officer
>
> 31A Main Street
> Office Directly: 506-364-5107
> Cell: 506-874-0010
>
> Alf Walker 1st Vice President
> RCL Branch 26
> 506 364 7766 cell
> 506 364 1093 fax
> 506 536 0304 home
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 22:34:13 -0400
> Subject: Megan Mitton must know who Sally Cunliffe is by now
> To: abordage@rogers.com, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre
> <andre@jafaust.com>, lenorezannmla <lenorezannmla@bellaliant.com>
> "don.darling"<don.darling@saintjohn.ca>, "Dale.Morgan"
> <Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Roger.Brown"
> <Roger.Brown@fredericton.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
> <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>
> <mike.obrien@fredericton.ca>, "dominic.leblanc.c1"
> <dominic.leblanc.c1@parl.gc.ca
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> (LEG)"<megan.mitton@gnb.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
> <Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> <Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "warren.mcbeath"
> <warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.
>
> Saturday, 29 June 2019
>
> Controversial political party greeted by vocal protesters in Saint John
>
>
> https://twitter.com/
>
> David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
> Methinks everybody knows that the wacko Sally Cunliffe has to learn
> some new tricks before the RCMP pull out a Section 10 document on her
> or prosecute her under Section 300 N'esy Pas?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
>
> #cdnpoli #nbpoli
>
>
> indiemediaeastcoastcanada.
>
>
> METHINKS FOLKS SHOULD SCROLL DOWN IF THEY WISH TO READ THE ENTIRE
> EMAIL N'ESY PAS?
>
>
> ---------- Orginal message ----------
> From: "Mitton, Megan (LEG)"<Megan.Mitton@gnb.ca>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:44:52 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: RE Canadian Truths I would lay odds that
> Megan Mitton knows Sally Cunliffe I know for a fact that Andre Faust
> certainly does
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for your email. MLA Megan Mitton is out of the office and
> will return the week of July 8th. We appreciate your patience, and
> will read your email as soon as possible. If you require assistance
> promptly, please email Alice Cotton, Constituency Coordinator
> (alice.cotton@gnb.ca). For more urgent matters, you can also call the
> office at (506) 378-1565. Merci pour votre courriel. La députée Megan
> Mitton sera absente du bureau et reviendra la semaine du 8 juillet.
> Nous apprécions votre patience, et nous lirons votre courriel dès que
> possible. Si vous avez besoin d'aide plus rapidement, veuillez envoyer
> un courriel à Alice Cotton, coordonnatrice de circonscription
> (alice.cotton@gnb.ca). Pour des questions plus urgentes, vous pouvez
> également appeler le bureau au (506) 378-1565.
>
>
>
>
>
> Eastcoast Blogger
> petitcodiac... check into werner bock .. a farmer there
>
> David Amos
> How stupid are you trolls?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> David Amos
> "did you ever meet charlie leblanc? he's a blogger downeast too.. not
> a bright guy but apparently famous"
> DUHHH????
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> David Amos Yo Sally why did ya delete the link to your hero Chucky
> Leblanc yapping about me in Federal Court?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> Kata List Productions
> You're confused... you keep repeating comments about deleted
> comments.. why? No one is listening to your mad crazy shit Dave.
>
> David Amos
> @Kata List Productions I see you put the link to Chucky's bragging
> back after you reminded the folks about you versus Chucky Leblanc and
> his butt buddy Andre Faust of Occupy NB N'esy Pas Sally Baby?
>
> Eastcoast Blogger
> Occupy is full of commi.. but you are a class of something else.... a
> troll with brain damage most likely.
>
> David Amos
> @Eastcoast Blogger Methinks mindless Trolls such as yourself must
> resort to ad hominem insults when they run out of hot air and BS N'esy
> Pas?
>
> Kata List Productions
> Werner Bock - farmer / rancher immigrant from Germany.. look into it
> Dave...
>
> David Amos
> @Kata List Productions Methinks everybody and his dog and particularly
> your RCMP buddies in Petiticodiac know that I know your pal Werner
> Bock very well N'esy Pas?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David Amos
> Methinks the RCMP should go figure why I saved this video N'esy Pas Sally
> Baby?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
>
>
> Town of Sackville - Facebook Censors
> 11 views
>
> Eastcoast Blogger
> Published on Jun 13, 2019
> Censored and taking notes, described by the important people as: " low
> class " - "unimportant " - a "troublemaker "..
>
>
> 2 Comments
>
>
> David Amos
> Yo Sally Baby ask yourself why I saved this nonsense of yours?
> Reply
>
> Eastcoast Blogger
> Because you're an obsessed lil dude?
>
>
> David Amos
> "Comments are disabled for this video."
>
> TOO LATE and TOO TOO FUNNY
>
>
>
> CNP - Canadian Nationalist Party - Trav Patron
>
>
> https://youtu.be/8RQvA-Ox20s
>
>
>
>
> Kata List Productions
> Published on May 28, 2019
>
> #travpatron #cnp #nationalist #canadiannationalistparty
>
> http://nationalist.ca
>
> The Canadian Nationalist Party (CNP) is a political party operating in
> the federal jurisdiction of Canada. Our constituency advocates for a
> constitutional monarchy within Canada, governed domestically rather
> than through the British Crown. We advocate for an ethnocentric Canada
> because we believe any political stance is rooted in identitarianism.
> That is, the unifying factor of a nation is understood to be a common
> tradition, lineage, and language. This is a movement based on the
> principles of the Christian traditions inherent in the history of
> Canada.
>
> 3 Comments
>
> Kata List Productions (edited)
> CBC talked to Trav Patron in 2018 .. leader of CNP - Canadian Nationalist
> Party
> Reply
> David Amos
> Say Hey to Trav and your buddies in the RCMP for me will ya?
>
> David Amos
> Eastcoast Blogger David Raymond Amos -- they won't answer your emails
> about me .. gosh .. honey.. why do you think that could be old man?
> hahaha! Reply David Amos @Eastcoast Blogger Now that is truly funny
> because I am about to send them another email about YOU. FYI I just
> talked to your buddy Travis Patron (306 700 2193) about the RCMP
> Methinks you maybe the evil hate monger helping him on YouTube N'esy
> Pas?
>
> http://
>
> Sunday, 7 July 2019
>
> CNP - Canadian Nationalist Party - Trav Patron
>
> https://youtu.be/8RQvA-Ox20s
>
> #travpatron #cnp #nationalist #canadiannationalistparty
>
> http://nationalist.ca The Canadian Nationalist Party (CNP) is a
> political party operating in the federal jurisdiction of Canada. Our
> constituency advocates for a constitutional monarchy within Canada,
> governed domestically rather than through the British Crown. We
> advocate for an ethnocentric Canada because we believe any political
> stance is rooted in identitarianism. That is, the unifying factor of a
> nation is understood to be a common tradition, lineage, and language.
> This is a movement based on the principles of the Christian traditions
> inherent in the history of Canada.
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
>
>
> RCMP launch hate crime probe of leader of nationalist group vying for
> party status in federal election
> Elections Canada gives Canadian Nationalist Party until mid-July to
> meet requirements
>
> Dave Seglins, Andreas Wesley, Carly Thomas · CBC News · Posted: Jun
> 28, 2019 4:00 AM ET
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 10:45:57 -0400
> Subject: Fwd: So what does Premier Gallant and Minister Doucet et al
> think of my lawsuit? How about David Coon and his blogging buddy
> Chucky joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
> To: j.higham@sackville.com
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:59:24 -0400
> Subject: Fwd: So what does Premier Gallant and Minister Doucet et al
> think of my lawsuit? How about David Coon and his blogging buddy
> Chucky joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
> To: Ernie.Steeves@gnb.ca, Sherry.Wilson@gnb.ca,
> Keirstead.Brian@gnb.ca, "Ross.Wetmore"<Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>,
> Gary.Crossman@gnb.ca, Glen.Savoie@gnb.ca, Trevor.Holder@gnb.ca,
> Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca, Ed.Doherty@gnb.ca, Bill.Oliver@gnb.ca,
> John.Ames@gnb.ca, "michael.bray"<michael.bray@
> Jody.Carr@gnb.ca, Pam.Lynch@gnb.ca, Jeff.Carr@gnb.ca,
> Carl.Urquhart@gnb.ca, Stewart.Fairgrieve@gnb.ca, Andrew.Harvey@gnb.ca,
> Chuck.Chiasson@gnb.ca, Madeleine.Dube@gnb.ca, Francine.Landry@gnb.ca
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, "brian.gallant"<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
> "Dominic.Cardy"<Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, oldmaison
> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre <andre@jafaust.com>, tj <tj@burkelaw.ca>,
> "chris.collins"<chris.collins@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon"
> <David.Coon@gnb.ca>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"<Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:05:07 +0000
> Subject: RE: So what does Premier Gallant and Minister Doucet et al
> think of my lawsuit? How about David Coon and his blogging buddy
> Chucky joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.
> Please be assured that your email has been received, will be reviewed,
> and a response will be forthcoming.
> Once again, thank you for taking the time to write.
>
> Merci d'avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.
> Soyez assuré que votre courriel a bien été reçu, qu'il sera examiné
> et qu'une réponse vous sera acheminée.
> Merci encore d'avoir pris de temps de nous écrire.
>
> Sincerely, / Sincèrement,
> Mallory Fowler
> Correspondence Manager / Gestionnaire de la correspondance
> Office of the Premier / Cabinet du premier ministre
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 07:40:50 -0400
> Subject: Fwd: So what does Premier Gallant and Minister Doucet et al
> think of my lawsuit? How about David Coon and his blogging buddy
> Chucky joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
> To: Ernie.Steeves@gnb.ca, Sherry.Wilson@gnb.ca,
> Keirstead.Brian@gnb.ca, "Ross.Wetmore"<Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>,
> Gary.Crossman@gnb.ca, Glen.Savoie@gnb.ca, Trevor.Holder@gnb.ca,
> Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca, Ed.Doherty@gnb.ca, Bill.Oliver@gnb.ca,
> John.Ames@gnb.ca, "michael.bray"<michael.bray@
> Jody.Carr@gnb.ca, Pam.Lynch@gnb.ca, Jeff.Carr@gnb.ca,
> Carl.Urquhart@gnb.ca, Stewart.Fairgrieve@gnb.ca, Andrew.Harvey@gnb.ca,
> Chuck.Chiasson@gnb.ca, Madeleine.Dube@gnb.ca, Francine.Landry@gnb.ca
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> <premier@leg.gov.mb.ca>, PREMIER <PREMIER@gov.ns.ca>, premier
> <premier@ontario.ca>, premier <premier@gov.bc.ca>, premier
> <premier@gov.pe.ca>, premier <premier@gov.sk.ca>, newsroom
> <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, news-tips <news-tips@nytimes.com>, pm
> <pm@pm.gc.ca>, news <news@hilltimes.com>, premier <premier@gov.ab.ca>,
> "brian.hodgson"<brian.hodgson@assembly.ab.ca>
> <Ezra@therebel.media>, "Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"<Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 11:00:54 +0000
> Subject: RE: So what does Premier Gallant and Minister Doucet et al
> think of my lawsuit? How about David Coon and his blogging buddy
> Chucky joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.
> Please be assured that your email has been received, will be reviewed,
> and a response will be forthcoming.
> Once again, thank you for taking the time to write.
>
> Merci d'avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.
> Soyez assuré que votre courriel a bien été reçu, qu'il sera examiné
> et qu'une réponse vous sera acheminée.
> Merci encore d'avoir pris de temps de nous écrire.
>
> Sincerely, / Sincèrement,
> Mallory Fowler
> Correspondence Manager / Gestionnaire de la correspondance
> Office of the Premier / Cabinet du premier ministre
>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 07:00:35 -0400
> Subject: So what does Premier Gallant and Minister Doucet et al think
> of my lawsuit? How about David Coon and his blogging buddy Chucky
> joking about being illegally barred from parliamentary property
> To: Rick.Doucet@gnb.ca, premier <premier@gnb.ca>, briangallant10
> <briangallant10@gmail.com>, "David.Coon"<David.Coon@gnb.ca>,
> "Davidc.Coon"<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>, oldmaison
> <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "Bill.Fraser"<Bill.Fraser@gnb.ca>,
> "Brian.kenny"<Brian.kenny@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle"
> <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "denis.landry2"<denis.landry2@gnb.ca>,
> "Stephen.Horsman"<Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>, "victor.boudreau"
> <victor.boudreau@gnb.ca>, nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>, "steve.murphy"
> <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras"<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,
> "macpherson.don"<macpherson.don@dailygleaner.
> <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, "leanne.murray"
> <leanne.murray@mcinnescooper.
> <shutchison@stewartmckelvey.
> <bdysart@stewartmckelvey.com>, bdysart <bdysart@smss.com>,
> "david.eidt"<david.eidt@gnb.ca>, "CRAIG.DALTON"<CRAIG.DALTON@gnb.ca>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> <brian.t.macdonald@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
> "hugh.flemming"<hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>, "jake.stewart"
> <jake.stewart@gnb.ca>, "bruce.northrup"<bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>,
> "bruce.fitch"<bruce.fitch@gnb.ca>
>
> New Brunswick Green Party Leader David Coon views on Brian Gallant
> Cabinet Shuffle!!!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Doucet, Rick (LEG)"<Rick.Doucet@gnb.ca>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:07:58 +0000
> Subject: RE: Final Docs
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Will get right on this.
> Always look forward to your brilliant thoughts.
> R
>
>
> Hon.Rick Doucet
> Legislative member for Charlotte-the isles
> 28 Mt.Pleasant Rd.
> St.George, N.B. E5C 3K4
>
> Phone / Téléphone : 506-755-4200
> Fax / Télécopieur : 506-755-4207
> E-mail / Courriel : rick.doucet@gnb.ca
>
>
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>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"<Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 23:42:40 +0000
> Subject: RE: You are welcome Premeir Gallant Say Hoka Hey to the evil
> blogger Chucky Leblanc and all his Green Meanie Fake Left and Native
> buddies for me will ya?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick.
> Please be assured that your email has been received, will be reviewed,
> and a response will be forthcoming.
> Once again, thank you for taking the time to write.
>
> Merci d'avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du Nouveau-Brunswick.
> Soyez assuré que votre courriel a bien été reçu, qu'il sera examiné
> et qu'une réponse vous sera acheminée.
> Merci encore d'avoir pris de temps de nous écrire.
>
> Sincerely, / Sincèrement,
> Mallory Fowler
> Correspondence Manager / Gestionnaire de la correspondance
> Office of the Premier / Cabinet du premier ministre
>
>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Póstur FOR <postur@for.is>
>>> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
>>> parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
>>> Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
>>> that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
>>> to be..
>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received
>>>
>>> Kveðja / Best regards
>>> Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the docket
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>>>
>>> These are digital recordings of the last two hearings
>>>
>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
>>>
>>> Jan 11th https://archive.org/details/
>>>
>>> This me running for a seat in Parliament again while CBC denies it again
>>>
>>> Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
>>> Campaign, Rogers TV
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
>>>
>>> Veritas Vincit
>>> David Raymond Amos
>>> 902 800 0369
>>>
>>>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
>
> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> December 8, 2014
> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>
> Friday, October 3, 2014
> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>
> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>
> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> campaign of 2006.
>
> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>
> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>
> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>
> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
> essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
> ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
> and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
> or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
> terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
> “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
> Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
> ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
> Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
>
> One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
> was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
> amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
> denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
> self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
> “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
> G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
> behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
> Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
> cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
> are not.
>
> Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
> mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
> world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
> David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
> and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
> and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
> “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
> criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
> tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
>
> In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
> “the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
> successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
> marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
> military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
> equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
> antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
> years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
> won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
>
> My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
> Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
> Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
> served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
> democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
> other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
> these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
> other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
>
> Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
> and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
> shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
>
> Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
>
> From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
> Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
> the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
> alive
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
> your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
> to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.
>
>>>>>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
> Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
> War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
> To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
> Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.
> william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
> milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
> sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir <birgir@althingi.is>, smari
> <smari@immi.is>, greg.weston@cbc.ca, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
> susan@blueskystrategygroup.com
> eugene@blueskystrategygroup.
> Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice"<Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca>, "terry.seguin"
> <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, acampbell <acampbell@ctv.ca>, whistleblower
> <whistleblower@ctv.ca>
>
> I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
> Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
> Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
> CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
> be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
> that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
> if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
> about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that your
> old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
> never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
> interesting though
>
> http://www.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/
>
> Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
> this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
> Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
> Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/
>
> The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
> shy political animal
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
> Enjoy Mr Weston
> http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/
>
> "But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
> brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
> says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
> to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
> including a Canadian general.
>
> That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
> who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
> U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
> also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
> prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.
>
> "I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
> being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
> demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
> "veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
> into the US policy.
>
> At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
> colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
> in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
> report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
> never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
> were deployed WMD.
>
> Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
> invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
> concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
> (and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
> about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
> that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
> authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.
>
> There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
> its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
> to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
> folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
> upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
> are to met before US troop can redeploy? Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
> Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
> correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
> George W Bush administration was onerous
>
> American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
> military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
> naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
> in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
> thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
> operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
> lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
> ....not necessarily in that order. "
>
> You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
> Adams? of the CSE within the DND?
>
> http://www.socom.mil/
>