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Methinks everybody knows I am no fan of Higgs or Austin but I must admit they did something to try to relieve the problem which far more than the SANB Party ever did N'esy Pas?



 


 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ambulance-new-brunswick-paramedics-1.4911258



 

Higgs creates non-emergency ambulance service that won't require bilingual crews



195 Comments



Alex Forbes 
Alex Forbes
We can't afford bilingualism.




Brian Robertson
Brian Robertson
@Alex Forbes
And not just on a monetary scale.

Nothing has divided New Brunswickers more than the liberal initiative of bilingualism, in pursuit of French votes.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Alex Forbes

How do you know ? You have access to government books ?

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Brian Robertson YOU NAILED IT

Alex Forbes
Alex Forbes
@Brian Robertson I agree and have commented previously as such.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Brian Robertson

There must be a lot of French people in Canada....Logic is not PANB's supporter strength...

Jeff LeBlanc
Jeff LeBlanc
@Brian Robertson well said


Brian Robertson
Brian Robertson
@Marc Martin
I remember because I lived through it.
The initial wish list for French School Boards only.
The satements that they rejected duality because it was wasteful and not necessary.
Of Louis Robichaud declaring New Brunswick 'bilingual' without any public consent.
Of the policy of service in French where numbers warranted.
And on and on.

We've had enough.

Brian Robertson
Brian Robertson
@Marc Martin
Nor yours based on that statement.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Brian Robertson

You live trough what ?

*The initial wish list for French School Boards only.*

That's the same across Canada, what's you point ?

*The satements that they rejected duality because it was wasteful and not necessary. *

What ?

*Of Louis Robichaud declaring New Brunswick 'bilingual' without any public consent*

Didn't the voters vote him in ? Are you part of every decision in the government of NB ? No, you vote for the party who will represent you, its called democracy.

*Of the policy of service in French where numbers warranted. *

Yeah that's until the Federal and provincial government centralized everything in Fredericton/ Saint John and Moncton. Now only these regions deserves the majority of services across NB. Anything more you want me to debunk kid?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Brian Robertson

*Nothing has divided New Brunswickers more than the liberal initiative of bilingualism, in pursuit of French votes.*

Nothing has divided New Brunswickers more than the PANB initiative of anti-bilingualism, in pursuit of English votes. Corrected you.

Fred Knox
Fred Knox
@Marc Martin What's PANB have to do with? They must have beat out one of your SANB pals.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Knox

Who yanked you chain?

JJ Carrier
JJ Carrier
@Fred Knox The SANB are are joke because they originally played the seperation card via the PA, not the economic one...Actually, key CoR supporters once told me off the record at the leadership vote in Campbellton they stole some of the SANB portfolio to promote their language views...

Brian Robertson
Brian Robertson
@Marc Martin
You have debunked nothing.

What I lived through was the evolution of the language policy we have and continue to endure.

What may be the policy now that is Canada wide does not alter the fact that in the very early 60s, the francophone lobby's stated goal was their own school boards, ONLY. But that turned out to be just the thin edge of the wedge.

And their statements refuting any desire for duality is now obviously a sign of the duplicity used by that same lobby.
Louis Robichaud was elected by a majority of New Brunswickers. But no where on his platform was any mention of making the Province bilingual. We just got up one morning to find that King Louis 1st had 'proclaimed' it on his own.

The problem with old people is that no matter how hard you try to rewrite history, we remember the events you want to gloss over.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "How do you know ? You have access to government books ?"

Methinks it ain't rocket science even you must how far have we gone in debt since Trudeau the Elder and Little Louie ran the the circus in Ottawa and NB N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Actually if your so *knowledgeable* with the Canadian debt you would know that Harper added more to the debt then all the MP before and more then Trudeau even tough he was riding the big oil profit taxes during his 10 year in power.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you should go back to the beginning of our national debt N'esy Pas? What was Canada's total debt before Trudeau The Elder became our PM and to whom did we owe it?

Brian Robertson
Brian Robertson
@Marc Martin
Personal pejoratives are the refuge of those with no counter argument.

maude windsor
maude windsor
@Marc Martin Harper did not add to our debt levels...in fact he paid down our DEBT....there is a big difference between DEBT and DEFICIT. ie there is good debt and bad unecessary debt (some of canada's debt goes back to trudeau1) socialism and social programs do not lead to good government (remember nazi's were voted into power using the social benefits to people who voted only for 'free programs' under a social leftist agenda. let we canadians be educated in economics.
as for Harper...he did manage canada to survive the recession..better than any other country of the G7 ...sure he isnt as cute & fasionable correct than is trudeau...but Harper actually had an economics degree from UofC that himself worked and paid for...and today countries around the world seek for Harper to give them advice. so canadians treat and like trudeau as a member of canada's royalty family..but do not run down Harper who is of an ordinary hard working family & gone from our political scene in canada. do not look back canada, standup for the future..stand up for canada...despite politicial quackery!!!

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Facts for you and your boss

https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin methink it was interesting but no surprise that my reply with facts not opinion was blocked N'es Pas?

maude windsor
maude windsor
@David Amos trudeau1 in his quest to make canada 'different' from the USA by using the french language as a political ploy & put himself into making language rules in canada which cost then and cost more now taxation of 2billion a year(all debt)...the metric system and the enormous amounts of $$$ it took to implement in small tax base canada, he used the 'environment' rulings to keep canada green and poor, he uped the equaliztion formula to give quebec 10X $$$ to other provinces, then he implemented the national energy program in Alberta..because trudeau1 was so afraid of baystreet financials moving to calgary...then he gave alberta the finger-----our debt became enormous. alberta's debt became more enormous because albertans needed social programs to live...(klng klein fixed that with all albertans working to be debt free).....today's trudeau isnt as intelligent but he is cute...and loves the spotlight. canadians do not understand government debt...canadians do not understand government budgeting nor taxation for what...canadians mostly do not understand all monies for free and other government programs are not free..all government do is to collect our money from all of us and then spend it....some canadian paid for IE, healthcare,education,equalization payments, the french language programs at 2Billion a year, so think about the government programs,services you receive and say thank you to other tax payers for what you receive from trudeau government. david amos...you should work to tell all canadians the facts of debt...and think about fact that almost 50% of canadians who love freeby money from government do not pay any taxation....not very democratic methinks

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

1 - stop voting for yourself Davis.
2 - again I have no idea what your talking about...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "again I have no idea what your talking about..."

Methinks nobody is that dumb N'esy Pas?

JJ Carrier
JJ Carrier
@Brian Robertson Acadians and the rest of our French-speakers in NB heroes did everything without the anglos permission, whuch is a pill they have never wanted to swallow...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "This is almost not read-able"

Whats your excuse?

 
Vernon McPhee
Vernon McPhee
@Marc Martin I see you have a very estranged relationship with the truth.

Vernon McPhee
Vernon McPhee
@maude windsor Although I agree with much of your post the facts are that the debt did go up under Harper by about $118 Billion according to Finance Department numbers. Most of which was during the stimulus spending after the 2008 global recession hit when the Liberals/NDP were asking for even more spending.

David Amos
David Amos
@Vernon McPhee "@Marc MartinI see you have a very estranged relationship with the truth."

Methinks that may be the understatement of the evening n;esy Pas?



Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Marc Martin Do you have access to the costs? In NB the Nuclear codes would come second to the cost of OB. Are you inferring the cost of 2 systems is less then one?

Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Alex Forbes If and when there comes a day when I have need for external medical treatment all I want is the best qualified EMT and driver available. It they speak Martian that works fine for me. I don't need Police and FD tagging along just to keep the budget demands high.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Norman Albert Snr, it is possible that you might accept any language, other than French, given your aversion for anything French. This is the common thread throughout your post history.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks New Brunswickers should review your post history as well N'esy Pas?











Vernon McPhee 
William Reed
It wasn't an issue. It was made into being a divisive issue. Fracking, on the other hand, was an issue and it was made into a non issue by silence. Can we see a pattern here yet?


cheryl wright
cheryl wright
@William Reed tell that to the families that waited over 40 minutes for an ambulance and lost loved ones because of it. every second counts when you are injured. hopefully it will never happen to you or anyone you love.

Pierre Cyr
Pierre Cyr
@William Reed I wonder if they will remove bilingualism requirements for the french areas. Then we could hire some Quebec or unilingual french ambulance attendants. I wonder if that will fly with the PANB...

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Pierre Cyr good idea....hire the unilingual francophone....that is, if you can find one.

Michel Boudreau
Michel Boudreau
@cheryl wright William Reed is a little bit right the issue is not as serious as it sound. It was made a issue by are politicien blaming the bilingual position. In true bilingual is not the problems, it the job it self. The stuff they see on the job you need solid nerf solid heart Bilingual position are fill up with unilingual staff with warning that they loose they job or get a transfer if they find a bilingual person and it does not happen often and it up to that person the get the compétence required bilingual is part of those compétence needed.

cheryl wright
cheryl wright
@Michel Boudreau . ok . granted there is a lot of media coverage on this sure. but I can guarantee that ( not just in paramedics ) that people do lose their jobs when they can squeeze a bilingual person in there. even if that English person worked at that job for decades. and getting competence required is one thing but doing it at the proficiency that this province considered fully bilingual is another. the province has set that standard so high that you can not reach it unless French is your mother tongue. so many issues in one small province.

Pierre Cyr
Pierre Cyr
@daryl doucette In Quebec they have plenty.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Michel Boudreau

It was made an issue from the anti-French crowd of NB, no one died because of a language issue, the kid that died was because medivie doesn't hire enough paramedics because of money issues.

Fred Knox
Fred Knox
@Marc Martin Why don't you move to Quebec if you got such hatred for English speaking in NB? Yes, it is an issue when a 13 year old dies.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Fred Knox

I don't hate the English population at all just the anti-French ones...Why don't you move to Ontario if you hate the French so much ?

*Yes, it is an issue when a 13 year old dies.*

He did not die because of language, he died because medivie did not hire enough paramedics to cover the region due to budget, get your facts straight.

David Amos
David Amos
@William Reed "Can we see a pattern here yet?"

Methinks a lot folks always did that is why they don't bother to vote N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@daryl doucette "hire the unilingual francophone'

Methinks that rare dude should run for public office against Gallant N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Fred Knox "Why don't you move to Quebec if you got such hatred for English speaking in NB?"

Methinks many would agree that is where he already is N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

How is the provincial guy doing ? You called him lately Davis?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methink you must recall that I told you I talked to your boss remember?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

You did ? Call him again, he never spoke to me lol...You need to call him several times he seems to forget a lot ....

maude windsor
maude windsor
@David Amos yes. english is and should be politically an english speaking province.....sad but many acadian families speak acadian type french and they also cannot pass the language test for new brunswick or ottawa jobs...because all the rules/regulations and testing mandates are for quebec french people only......this NB problem of language rules is between english&acadian people speakers...and the quebecers who have moved into new brunswick. francophone associations are disruptive and cause governments to do their dirty work a la purchase of votes leading to government. quite sad really...and i doubt little louis envisioned this hatred amongst the people of new brunswick....we are not quebecers and all levels of government (trudeau included) need to recognize this fact.

David Amos
David Amos
@maude windsor Why do you think I sued the Crown? Methinks you are preaching to the choir N'esy Pas?

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Pierre Cyr I imagine they do. Too bad for them. Have fun travelling outside of Quebec.

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@David Amos A rare bird indeed! Have never met one in New Brunswick.







 


 Vernon McPhee 
Chuck Stewart
How is it a Language problem in St. Quentin and Lameque where the medics are all francophones, ask yourselves that. There is a real reason why they can't staff ambulances and nobody wants to mention it.


cheryl wright
cheryl wright
@Chuck Stewart there is a paramedic shortage due to bilingualism and salaries. when you have rural areas they often have 1 ambulance. so say if Fredericton needs another ambulance they may pull from Woodstock. then if Woodstock needs another ambulance they pull from Victoria county, then so on and so on. but if there were more paramedics there would be less buses sitting without staff and less would have to be pulled from other areas or not being able to be used at all due to insufficient staffing levels. our paramedics are so burnt out from working over and above their regular hours due to shortages. there are unilingual or English speaking paramedics that leave the province or the field all together because they cant get the hours.

Pierre Cyr
Pierre Cyr
@Chuck Stewart 99% of the problem is wages and working conditions.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Chuck Stewart

Its not, medivie did not hire enough paramedics.

Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Marc Martin

There are a few spreading lies in order to further their agenda however it is neither Kris Austin or the PANB.......... Time for common sense... Time to stop pandering to one minority whose only goal is power and control... Power and Control no matter the cost.....

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "People like PANB are spreading lies about this."

Methinks everybody knows you are the one spreading lies. Everybody knows that I am no fan of Higgs or Austin but I must admit they did something to try to relieve the problem which far more than the SANB Party ever did N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

There is no SANB party Davis.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "There is no SANB party"

Methinks your boss are calls them liberals in your neck of the woods N'esy Pas?










 Vernon McPhee 
Colin Seeley
Higgs just made his announcement.

Check out the TJ.


David Amos
David Amos
@Colin Seeley Who cares?

David Amos
David Amos
@Colin Seeley Methinks everybody in the know knows who owns a big chunk of Ambulance NB N'esy Pas?








 Pierre Cyr 
Pierre Cyr
Any service will need part time workers to replace the fulltime. This isnt a real solution. Whats the turnover rate for paramedics? Whats the graduation rate? If its like much of the healthcare sector they dont pay well with bad working conditions and dont attract enough students to graduate enough trained people to replace those who are leaving.


Mack Leigh
Mack Leigh
@Pierre Cyr

It is a definite improvement over what we now have.... however I agree rather than just 40 trained unilingual paramedics being moved to full time it should be more with the balance of those already qualified being given part time positions...... Keep our fully trained, experienced paramedics here in NB no matter if they speak English or French only........

David Amos
David Amos
@Mack Leigh I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
maude windsor
maude windsor
@Pierre Cyr privitize all medical services is the answer. get government out of the lives of the people.
Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@maude windsor

You cant privatize Health services in Canada.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks Medavie is privatized N'esy Pas?









Matt Steele 
Matt Steele
It did not take Higgs long to solve that problem . That must be the difference between a man with management experience who can find solutions ; and a boy who had no life or work experience, and who could not find a solution in 4 YEARS ! Maybe Higgs should turn his attention to the Substitute Teacher shortage as well .


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Matt Steele

*a man with management experience *

Are we talking about the same person who ran 4 year deficits and sold our forest to the Irvings?

Matt Steele
Matt Steele
@Marc Martin .....You may want to check your facts a little closer . Frank McKenna was in power when the Crown leases were taken away from private citizens , and given to the Irvings .

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Matt Steele

That contract was re-negociated by the Alward government.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-blaine-higgs-forestry-negotiated-deal-progressive-conservative-1.4498851

Here are your facts kid.

Matt Steele
Matt Steele
@Marc Martin .....There were no re-negotiations once McKenna removed the Crown land leases from private citizens and gave them to Irving as the leases were never returned , It was McKenna who started the land gift to Irving . Successive Premiers including Lord , Graham , Alward and Gallant just carried on with what McKenna started .Higgs was not Premier at that time , Alward was ; and the Premier always makes the final decision .

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Steele Methinks you must have turned coat like your buddy Dominic Cardy N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Steele "It was McKenna who started the land gift to Irving"

Methinks the gift giving between New Brunswick and the Irving Clan began with Little Louie and it increased ever since N'esy Pas?












 Vernon McPhee 
Nancy Alcox
So that’s it? Solved the problem? I think time will tell..

"No longer will desperate families be forced to load severely ill and injured loved ones in the backs of their own vehicles hoping to get to a hospital before it is too late because no ambulance is available when it is needed," Austin said in the release.


Vernon McPhee
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Marc Martin



David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you will say anything to appease the SANB N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
FMarc Martin
@David Amos

I am not even a member....But at least they do stand up against the anti-French groups of NB.

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Nancy Alcox
It wouldn't have been a problem if Bernard Lord hadn't "fix" ambulance services in the first place.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin "I am not even a member"

Yea RIght Methinks they welcome members from Quebec N'esy Pas?


Rosco holt
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Marc Martin

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you wish to forget that I am no "Anglo" dude or a member of any political party or any organization whatsoever. However the Crown and your boss knows I am the Chief of the Amos Clan N'esy Pas?



Rosco holt
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Marc Martin

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks that is because you can't read N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Come on Davis be nice. If not ill have to be not nice"

Methinks everybody know you are far from nice Hell you can't even spell my first name correctly let alone have enough manners to address yoyr senior who is not your friend as Mr Amos N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks your boss knows the Crown addresses me properly and my correct name has been on 6 ballots thus far. N'esy Pas?









 Vernon McPhee 
Bob Smith
Three thoughts:
1) Hopefully, this will result in the calls being made by folks wanting to use an ambulance as free taxis shifted to the non emergency side.
2) Pressure is going to intensify on dispatchers to ensure mistakes aren't made.
3) Can the province afford the extra layer?


David Amos
David Amos
@Bob Smith

1. Methinks everybody knows the ambulances are not free and that a taxi would be far cheaper

2. YUP

3. We can't afford anything The added costs will increase out debt but at least it is a justifiable expense .N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*1. Methinks everybody knows the ambulances are not free and that a taxi would be far cheaper *

Maybe we should only use taxis now ? I mean we don't need the qualified paramedics anymore.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks if you recall I was suggesting taxis quite sometime ago Why should your buddies in the Irving Clan make all the money off of sick folks who just need a ride to the hospital N'esy Pas?

maude windsor
maude windsor
@Bob Smith NB can afford this suitable change. unfortunately nb has put language spoken by EMS persons ahead of providing emergency medical services in transport. and people are dying that do not need to be......french language is just a political tool for politicians to control the people of NB---privitize let the market place decide languages of services to people. non-language rules within all aspects of the healthcare systems ....

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Who do you think is paying your wages?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin I am

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks its interesting that a lot of our comments are going "Poof" even after mine have been liked 5 or 6 times N'esy Pas?








 Vernon McPhee 
Rosco holt
Hey that's my idea.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Yea he does Methinks you are just jealous N'esy Pas?

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@David Amos
Had posted that idea 5 days ago( under People alliance defending their notion of language rights).

Transfers usually don't need medics.

David Amos
David Amos
@Rosco holt Notice Mindless Martin went "Poof"? Go figure










 Vernon McPhee 
Joe campbell
Didn't take long for David **** and the Green party to be a non factor. Again Fredericton will have no say and we can at least go the new AandW in Horseman' riding.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Joe campbell

A & W is an awesome treat real beef !!

David Amos
David Amos
@Joe campbell "Didn't take long for David **** and the Green party to be a non factor."

Methinks the Watermellon Party had their day in the sun but made it rain when they forced Gallant to take back his promise to freeze the NB Power rates and supported the very expensive and very needless Smart Meters N'esy Pas?

Scott McLaughlin
Scott McLaughlin
@Joe campbell
It's ridiculous that you can't even type David's (Green Party) last name or your submission is rejected. I agree. David will have very little influence in the NB legislature. PANB holds all the cards.
Joe campbell
Joe campbell
@Scott McLaughlin I typed his last name but was rejected by cbc
Gerry Ferguson
Gerry Ferguson
@Joe campbell isn't that CRAZY? It's the surname of a provincial party leader for crying out loud!


David Amos
David Amos
@Gerry Ferguson Methinks the most nuts is when they delete a links to their own articles if his name is within the links Nesy Pas?












Jean Leloup Taitrop 
Jean Leloup Taitrop
Higgs created nothing plans have been there since almost a year ago first they created a special section at the dispatch centre for transfer now they are applying phase 2 putting ambulances on the road for it .... politicians taking credit for someone else work. Libs cons are both the same in this province.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jean Leloup Taitrop Interesting










Jean Leloup Taitrop
Jean Leloup Taitrop
Higgs:I give you 1 week to come up with a plan !
Medavie : here's the plan we showed to the libs
Higgs: fine let's tell the public we just made this


David Amos
David Amos
@Jean Leloup Taitrop Hmmmm

Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Jean Leloup Taitrop Let's tell 'em the Libs rejected it ! Which they obviously did !!!









 Gerry Ferguson 
Ben Robinson
Simple solution: Have two paramedics in each ambulance with only one being bilingual.

Next ...


David Amos
David Amos
@Ben Robinson Better yet put two unilingual folks in the same ambulance one English and one French. Methinks within a week or so they will be able to converse with each other and the rest of us N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Impressive, I like this idea even more. Your getting better Davis keep it up !

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you must have realized by now that no true New Brunswicker cares what a Quebecker thinks about anything N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Saying the guy who lives in the USA....

Roger Richard
Roger Richard
@Marc Martin David lives here in NB and is from NB.
David Amos
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David Amos
@Roger Richard Thanks you for backing me up mon ami.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Roger Richard

That's not what he said.....ask him.

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Ben Robinson Ben that would be great! But in the ambulances here in NB, the paramedics " take turns" being " the lead" ( meaning the one who does the talking initially at the emergency call) so what happens many times is the " unilingual" paramedic will start conversing to the family/patient in the " other" language while the " bilingual" paramedic says nothing...is setting up equipment, etc...common sense would dictate if, oh for example, up in Caraquet, if a unilingual english person driving thru the area decided to pull over as he/she was ill, and an ambulance arrived to help, it would be idiotic if there was a " unilingual francophone paramedic", and a " bilingual paramedic" arriving, and the " unilingual francophone paramedic" was the " lead person" and was attempting to interview the patient....while the " bilingual" paramedic was there as well....and this DOES go on.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Dr Richard does not have to He knows me very well In fact he ran this election as well up in Kent North against the former President of SANB Kevin Arseneau Methinks you know nothing Quebeckers need to do your homework before you decide to tease New Brunswickers about ou politics N'esy Pas?

Nicolas Krinis
Nicolas Krinis
@David Amos Or use technology such as Skype for translation. IBM produces some excellent simultaneous translation applications. We all know why that will never happen. The ruling party will win the vote and we can't have that.








Gerry Ferguson 
maude windsor
good for Higgs! time someone had some sense on this!!! now Higgs, lets focus on the education of EMS
within ambulance services....there are too many EMS in ambulances that do not have the correct nor useful education. (take as example the edmonton EMS...highly trained and educated and provide services to 2X numbers of people in new brunswick in about the same land mass....so ambulances travel about the same miles on each call. also, NB ambulances do not have the emergency room medical & drugs of useful emergency services....ie each ambulance should be in commique with the nearest hospital EMS ...so that emergency services start as soon as patient is picked up.
methinks certification and upgrade of EMS personnel regardless of language is most important to patient...people are dying in new brunswick because of poor state of non-emergency equipment and the lack of certification of EMS personnel in amulances. everyone should sluth out how the location of their home & business will allow for quick and educated certificated EMS....it is medical knowledge & better equipped ambulances that is critical....language(s) spoken is not important at all to critical medical care!!!!


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@maude windsor

What ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks your bass can explain it to you N'esy Pas?








 Gerry Ferguson 
Paul Bourgoin
When the patients are transferred will they go to an English Hospital or a French Hospital ?
Will the Receptionist be English or French?
Will the Doctor be French or English?
And the list goes on!!
English And French New Brunswick Citizens are Both Canadians!!


David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Exactly






Gerry Ferguson
 Daniel Quintal
This is a great idea which has been used successfully in the Ottawa area for a number of years. I am glad our politicians are starting to look at better practices in Canada as we move into the 21st century. This will benefit Newbrunswickers 


David Amos
David Amos
@Daniel Quintal Don't bet on it







Gerry Ferguson 
Joseph Vacher
another sad day for Marc Martin and David Amos. A great day for everyone else


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Joseph Vacher

I am not sad at all, and I think Davis Armos would agree.

David Amos
David Amos
David Amos
David Amos
@Joseph Vacher How is that even remotely funny?

Mike Frontin
Mike Frontin
@Marc Martin Even SANB President Robert Melanson thinks this announcement is a step in the right direction. Maybe there IS hope :)










Claude DeRoche 
Claude DeRoche
The days of the Irving COR boy are counted!

CBC News · Posted: Nov 09, 2018
Higgs ran for the leadership of the COR party.
The party Higgs wanted to lead in 1989, the Confederation of Regions, was anti-bilingualism.
Higgs says he no longer subscribes to the COR worldview. "I believe that all New Brunswickers, French and English, have the opportunity to speak their own language and to learn another one," he said in August. "My opinion has changed over the last 30 years."


Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Claude DeRoche And Gallant and his endorsers all worked for the Parti Acadienne. What part of this change is a problem ? Obviously it's ALL ABOUT JOBS , nothing else !!!

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Claude DeRoche No they are not. He will be there 4 years.

Natalie Pugh
Natalie Pugh
@Claude DeRoche What does the COR party or Higgs prior affiliation have to do with fixing the ambulance crisis in NB? I see from your comments you feel the 30% who are French and the ones entitled to jobs and EMT services. If you can't admit that todays announcement is good for all NB's that shows that you and the sanb only care about holding language privileges above all else. It's not and never has been about "culture preservation" now has it?

 
@Natalie Pugh well said!

David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell "And Gallant and his endorsers all worked for the Parti Acadienne. What part of this change is a problem ?"

Methinks everything is political and its always about the money N'esy Pas?










  
kelly sherrard
The province needs to cancel all contracts with Medavie/Blue Cross and bring all services back under the Gov't umbrella. Medavie is making millions of dollars off the province, money that could be better served in providing services to NBers. The province claims that Medavie has the technology, well this province could have the technology for themselves if they wanted it. The door must be slammed in Medavie's face with regards to all dealings in this province. We have politicians in control of portfolios that they have no idea what it involves and that is evident in the bumbling handling and bad decisions that are made. Elected officials have to remember they work for the people in this province, to provide the best service possible at the most reasonable price, not to award big contracts for numerous years to companies who want to keep dealings/costs/problems hidden under a privacy agreement.


June Arnott
June Arnott
@kelly sherrard but we have seen that the current public service cannot mange it well.
Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@June Arnott
Medavi obviously can't either.

David Amos
David Amos
@Rosco holt Methinks with Bernie running the Circus it should bea small wonderN'esy Pas?

Checkout this this old file beginning at page 16 or so if you want a good chuckle

David Amos
David Amos





Vernon McPhee
 Lou Bell
Could have gotten done two years ago if Gallant and his endorsers had removed the blinders and attempted to serve EVERYONE , instead of the 30 % !!



Claude DeRoche
Claude DeRoche
@Lou Bell
%30 included in everyone!

David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell "Could have gotten done two years ago"

YUP








Claude DeRoche 
Claude DeRoche
The hell with bilingualism make it all French!

Voilà problem solved!


June Arnott
June Arnott
@Claude DeRoche Cest tout le le.
I know right?

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Claude DeRoche
Or you could move to Quebec. Problem solved!

Claude DeRoche
Claude DeRoche
@Fred Brewer
Move to TrumpLand if you don't like it!

Mario Doucet
Mario Doucet
@Claude DeRoche
LMAO

Nicolas Krinis
Nicolas Krinis
@Claude DeRoche Demographics are changing, Francos are dwindling in numbers as we speak. When we reach a critical point, make the province unilingual English with French services wherever they are needed.

David Amos
David Amos
@Claude DeRoche Methinks that may change if the wrong dude decides to play dumb with me N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Fred Brewer "Or you could move to Quebec. Problem solved!"

Methinks that is where he already is N'esy Pas?

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Fred Brewer, and you to Alberta; problem solved!








  
June Arnott
June Arnott
So the English patient lands in a hospital where the miracle doctor is French only. How would that be? Wise discussions


Claude DeRoche
Claude DeRoche
@June Arnott
Which hospital would that be?

June Arnott
June Arnott
@Claude DeRoche hypothetically speaking

David Amos
David Amos
@June Arnott Methinks we all die someday anyway but as long as he is clever enough not to cut off the wrong leg I don't care what lingo he speaks N'esy Pas?







June Arnott
 Mario Doucet
Bilingual bs -LMAO


Claude DeRoche
Claude DeRoche
@Mario Doucet

Agree French only!

VOILÀ!

David Amos
David Amos
@Mario Doucet YUP










June Arnott 
Mario Doucet
NO more funding for acadiam society.


David Amos
David Amos
@Mario Doucet Methinks Many Maritimers Wholeheartedly Agree N'esy Pas?










daryl doucette
Howard Smith
I do not care what language you speak, scrape me off the road and get to the hospital as fast as possible. the siren only makes one noise not which is, get out of the way in all languages.


Claude DeRoche
Claude DeRoche
@Howard Smith
Agree reason enough to make the service unilingual French .

Problem solved!

David Amos
David Amos
@Claude DeRoche Methinks if they screw up I have the right to sue them in English N'esy Pas?

Howard Smith
Howard Smith
@Claude DeRoche

Can you get along in Canada as a true unilingual French person?

Nicolas Krinis
Nicolas Krinis
@Claude DeRoche Unilingual Shiac, you mean?

Howard Smith
Howard Smith
@Nicolas Krinis

So not even french?

Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@Nicolas
damm f....cant even spell it right...........

David Amos
David Amos
@Nicolas Krinis "Unilingual Shiac, you mean?"

Mais Oui Methinks there is no other lingo for Proud Maritimers to use N'esy Pas?

daryl doucette
daryl doucette 
This whole issue re French/English is really irrelevant when the paramedics show up on scene to an actual cardiac arrest, sudden death, or other critical emergency where the patient is unconscious, and dying. The fact that a family member is present and talking to responders is great, but the end result is usually the same for the person on the floor. The paramedics/first responders are going to assess vitals immediately. If vital signs are absent, they will then " hook up" the patient to the " defib pads" to prepare for a potential " shock" to " stop" and then restart the heart. This is the first, and foremost task ANY " First Responders" ( Paramedics, Trained FireFighters) will do. Language is comepletly irrelevant in these critical cases. I have never heard of a person in cardiac arrest requesting services in the language of their choice.







daryl doucette
daryl doucette
I bet the legal minds at U de M are vigorously studying this common sense fix by Mr. Higgs and Mr. Austin...what would be REFRESHING for a change would be to see the SANB and the "Language Commissioners Office" come out with a press release agreeing that this is a very good idea and we shall continue to move forward on this issue!


Stephen Long
Stephen Long
@daryl doucette Dream on.

David Amos
David Amos
@Stephen Long I concur








 Claude DeRoche 
Claude DeRoche
The days of the fracking Irving COR party Boy are counted! LOL!


David Amos
David Amos
@Claude DeRoche Methinks you have no idea of the score let alone who all the players are N'esy Pas?









 daryl doucette 
June Arnott
Medavie is a non profit organization.
If they can find the talent it could work


David Amos
David Amos
@June Arnott Methinks politcians know that as soon as a lawyer uses see the term "non profit organization" tehy know their buddies running that circus are making a big score off of other people's money N'esy Pas?









June Arnott
 June Arnott
Medavie is a non profit organization.
If they can find the talent it could work

David Amos
David Amos
@June Arnott Methinks politcians know that as soon as a lawyer uses see the term "non profit organization" tehy know their buddies running that circus are making a big score off of other people's money N'esy Pas?









June Arnott 
Chantal LeBouthi
Question
Why was a third party given the right to speak before the throne speech?

Also shouldn’t have been the Vice premier on stage with Mr. Higgs

And where was the green ! Not invited?


David Amos
David Amos
@Chantal LeBouthi Better yet why is any of this going down before the throne speech?

Methinks the SANB may have their fancy knickers in quite a knot because not so ethical French Lieutenant of the PC Party may make good on this threat be sitting as an Independent soon and the greedy former Presdent of the SANB and French Lieutenant of the Watermelon Party may go for the Speaker's chair N'esy Pas?









June Arnott 
David Stairs
and still they push the bilingual issue...language does not matter when you are in medical distress..the people with absolutely no first hand experience are making the rules and are not listening no matter what.. and Bernard Lord needs to leave as well as all the previous government officials who failed to fix this problem..


David Amos
David Amos
@David Stairs "Bernard Lord needs to leave as well"

YUP









 June Arnott 
Chantal LeBouthi
Now the question is how many unilingue English or unilingue French going to be hire?


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Chantal LeBouthi, the question begs the answer.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Survey Says???








Marguerite Deschamps 
Marguerite Deschamps
The COR parties should be thankful that CBC topics opened for discussion gives their members a free forum in order to vent their anger and frustration. At least it may help reduce Medicare psychiatric costs.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Cry me a river


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, a river? - Here the CORs are crying an ocean.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Dream on Lady



Higgs creates non-emergency ambulance service that won't require bilingual crews

Premier Blaine Higgs and People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin were at Monday's announcement


Blaine Higgs announces changes to Ambulance New Brunswick on Monday. (Catherine Allard/Radio-Canada)

The province plans to create a service for non-emergency ambulance transfers that will remove the need for crews  capable of speaking both French and English.

The new service will determine a hospital patient's language of choice before an ambulance is dispatched, and staff with the "linguistic capabilities" to look after the call will respond, according to the plan announced Monday by Premier Blaine Higgs.

The service, to be implemented by Ambulance New Brunswick, will allow 40 casual paramedics to move to permanent full-time status, according to the government announcement.

"Our priority is protecting the health and safety of residents," Higgs said in a news release.

In a statement, the province said transfers make up about 30 per cent of Ambulance New Brunswick's call volume. There were 112,000 calls for transfers last year, up 18 per cent from five years ago.

Separating transfers from the 911 emergency response system will reduce delays in both systems, the announcement said, and offer more flexibility in hiring and retaining employees.

Ambulance NB is supposed to provide emergency service in the language of a patient's choice, but the bilingualism requirement has been blamed for a shortage of paramedics and late-arriving ambulances.

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin and Health Minister Hugh Flemming were also at the announcement in Fredericton.

"No longer will desperate families be forced to load severely ill and injured loved ones in the backs of their own vehicles hoping to get to a hospital before it is too late because no ambulance is available when it is needed," Austin said in the release.

Problems with the ambulance service


Problems with the ambulance service, which some critics, including Austin, have blamed on an inability to find required bilingual employees, became an issue in the recent provincial election.

Over the past few months, Ambulance New Brunswick has also been criticized for paramedic shortages and ambulance delays across the province.


At the end of October, Blaine Higgs said he would prioritize the paramedics shortage and ambulance delays if he took power. (CBC)
In October, Progressive Conservative Leader Blaine Higgs — who was not yet premier of New Brunswick — said such issues would be the first priority for a PC government if he were to assume power.

Higgs pledged to bring in Medavie Health Services, the company that runs Ambulance New Brunswick, on Day 1 and give it a  week to put forth solutions.

Higgs was sworn in Nov. 9 after the Liberal government of Brian Gallant fell the week before.

Slow response by paramedics 


In October, former health minister Benoî​t Bourque said a discussion paper on ambulance service revealed a drastic shortage of trained bilingual paramedics and a lack of language training to fill the need where bilingual service is required.

The document said 51 out of 61 vacant full-time paramedic positions are bilingual jobs, as are 31 of 40 part-time vacancies.

Today's announcement comes more than three weeks after a 13-year-old boy died in an ATV crash in Haut-Lamèque after family, police and firefighters waited about 45 minutes for paramedics to arrive at the scene.

Medavie recently announced a second ambulance for Saint-Quentin, which fought for two years to get better coverage.

That announcement came after a cyclist was struck and injured by a vehicle and waited more than 40 minutes before being taken to hospital three blocks away by a passerby.

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