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N.B. Liberal Leader Holt keeps distance from Trudeau as election nears

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N.B. Liberal Leader Holt keeps distance from Trudeau as election nears

Provincial party once embraced federal leader but now he’s a PC attack line

Politically, it would seem to be a slam-dunk question for an opposition leader trying to use the housing issue against Premier Blaine Higgs.

If Susan Holt and her Liberals win the Oct. 21 election and are sworn into power in early November, would she sign a housing funding deal with Ottawa before a federal deadline at the end of the year?

Speaking to reporters earlier this month, Holt welcomed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's announcement of a $6-billion Canada Housing Infrastructure Fund.

But — despite slamming Higgs for inaction — she wouldn't commit.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau makes an announcement regarding new housing in Brampton, Ont., Friday, Oct. 20, 2023. The day after Justin Trudeau was re-elected in 2019, Premier Higgs reluctantly accepted that New Brunswick would have to comply with his federal carbon-tax policy. Now Trudeau seems destined for defeat and Higgs is pushing for repeal of the tax, while linking Holt to the levy. (Nathan Denette/The Canadian Press)

"That's a great hypothetical question. I'd have to understand what are the details of the deal," she said, promising only that the housing issue is "something we'd look to address really quickly" if they won the election.

Contrast that with Green MLA Megan Mitton's response. 

"We would go to the table and figure out a way to get that funding in the province and get things built." 

It's the latest example of Holt keeping her distance from a prime minister whose popularity has plummeted among Canadians and who generates vehemently negative reactions from some voters.

Kris Austin speaks to reporters Last fall, Public Safety Minister Kris Austin denounced what he called the prime minister’s 'leftist agendas,' a description Holt didn’t disagree with when asked if Trudeau was too far to the left. (Jacques Poitras/CBC News)

Last fall, Public Safety Minister Kris Austin denounced what he called the prime minister's "leftist agendas"— a description Holt didn't disagree with when asked if Trudeau was too far to the left.

"I think at times, yeah," she said.

"It looks like, on the continuum, they're more left than us because we're more centrist here in New Brunswick."

As the PCs have ramped up attacks on Holt as a Trudeau ally, Holt has insisted the New Brunswick Liberal Party is a separate entity from the federal party the prime minister leads.

While in Ottawa last year for a conference Trudeau attended, she was not photographed with him and said later she had not met with him.

This isn't the first time the PCs have adopted the linkage strategy.

A photograph of Brian Gallant    In 2016, then-premier Brian Gallant broke ranks with other premiers to sign a bilateral health care deal with the still-popular Trudeau, upending provincial attempts to hold out for a more flexible agreement. (CBC)

In the 2015 federal election, federal and provincial Tories declared that "a vote for Justin Trudeau is the same as a vote for Brian Gallant," hoping New Brunswickers shared their disdain for the young new Liberal premier and would take it out on the federal leader.

It didn't work. Trudeau won every federal seat in the province.

Gallant embraced the connection. In 2016 he broke ranks with other premiers to sign a bilateral health-care deal with the still-popular Trudeau, upending provincial attempts to hold out for a more flexible agreement.

"We actually see it as a strength to have the same sort of agenda and have many of the same priorities as the Trudeau government," Gallant said at the time — a statement it's hard to imagine Holt making now.

Political scientist Alex Marland says federal and provincial parties of the same stripe routinely "cherry pick" when to stay close and when to keep their distance from each other.

A man wearing a white dress shirt smiles with his arms crossed on a university campus. Political scientist Alex Marland says federal and provincial parties of the same stripe routinely 'cherry pick' when to stay close and when to keep their distance from each other. (Acadia University)

"When Justin Trudeau and the Liberals were on the way up … all sorts of provincial Liberals would be happy to show their ties," said Marland, the Jarislowsky chair in trust and political leadership at Acadia University.

"But when the Liberals are on the way down at the federal level, now all of a sudden they're separate entities. … This is all very selective and calculating."

The dynamic can work the other way, too.

The day after Trudeau was re-elected in 2019 — winning six of 10 New Brunswick seats — Higgs reluctantly accepted that New Brunswick would have to comply with his federal carbon-tax policy.

Now Trudeau seems destined for defeat and Higgs is pushing for repeal of the tax, while linking Holt to the increasingly unpopular levy.

Marland says tying provincial leaders to federal policies is disingenuous and not good for democracy, because it adds to existing confusion about which issues are federal, provincial or municipal responsibilities.

It's also possible the PC strategy on Trudeau is a double-edged sword.

A man wearing a suit and tie stands on a leafy street in warm weather. Polling expert Eric Grenier says polling numbers could be misleading — like when the Liberals won more votes, but fewer seats, than the PCs in the 2018 provincial election. (CBC)

Recent polling by the Angus Reid Institute suggests Trudeau is actually more popular than Premier Blaine Higgs in New Brunswick.

Trudeau had a 34 per cent approval rating in the province, far behind federal Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre — but ahead of Higgs, whose approval was at 31 per cent. 

In a head-to-head race, Trudeau might win.

But no such race will happen, and polling expert Eric Grenier of The Writ podcast warns the provincewide numbers could be misleading — like when the Liberals won more votes, but fewer seats, than the PCs in the 2018 provincial election.

"Blaine Higgs probably has higher approval ratings in southern New Brunswick, where the PCS have more seats, and Justin Trudeau probably has higher approval ratings in northern New Brunswick, where the Liberals already hold seats," he says.

"If you were looking at these numbers as voting intention numbers, the Liberals being three points ahead of the PCs would probably not be enough for them win."

The PC strategy to tag Holt with Trudeau may be effective among undecided voters in a handful of southern ridings where the next election could be decided, Grenier said.

Linking Holt to Trudeau, he says, "probably makes some sense in those battlegrounds."

Still, the Tories have recently pivoted to negative attacks on Holt based on provincial issues — such as comments she made a decade ago about school closures — rather than invoking the prime minister.

But unless Trudeau manages an astounding turnaround in his popularity between now and October, it's unlikely his name will vanish completely from the PC campaign vocabulary. 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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David Amos
"Last fall, Public Safety Minister Kris Austin denounced what he called the prime minister's "leftist agendas"— a description Holt didn't disagree with when asked if Trudeau was too far to the left.

"I think at times, yeah," she said."

I return Holt should have asked Austin if Higgy is too far to the right particularly in light of the fact many of his fellow caucus members are not impressed with their leader

 

Don Corey  
Reply to David Amos  
I agree, absolutely.
 
 
 
 
David Amos
Methinks Mr Outhouse must be confused N'esy Pas?
 

Don Corey  
Reply to David Amos   
Confused for sure, and now very well paid.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
I wonder if he read both webpages
 

Don Corey  
Reply to David Amos   
He should.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
No doubt he read my email
 

Don Corey  
Reply to David Amos   
Guaranteed.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Anyone on The Power List of Top 10 Political Backroomers should 
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to David Amos   
I doubt if he did . Was it about a lost bike ?
 
 
Harvey York
Reply to Lou Bell
Zing!
 
 
 
 
 
William Peters
Reply to Don Corey
Higgs clearly couldn't care less what happens outside of his old confederacy of British Loyalist regions. He's counting on some very old entrenched biases to remain in power. The first person to show me an ounce of compassion gets my vote.
 

Don Corey  
Reply to William Peters   
I would much prefer telling the truth over compassion.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Me Too
 
  
David Webb 
Reply to William Peters   
Sorry, but politicians is maybe not the best place to be looking for compassion. Their motives are retirement planning, theirs. Maybe try your local food bank or soup kitchen. JT and his side kick finance minister think they are wonderful, it appears.
 
 
 
 

David Webb
There is a good video on this news network about the pro's and con's of amortising a mortgage for 30 years. To watch the finance minister think she is announcing that you can pay triple what you paid for your home because of paying interest for longer is a good thing only further convinces me that education and intelligence are in no way connected. 
 
 
William Peters
Reply to  David Webb
If smart people are lenders then it is to be expected that they would find a way to convince the not so smart to fall prey to their schemes, no? Are you saying the lenders aren't that smart? If intelligence is not taking advantage of people who are the intelligent today? 
 
 
David Webb 
Reply to William Peters   
Lenders are regulated and free to loan/invest, it is up to the individual to get informed on the cost to them and the affordability. So what did you think of the video? PS: A great way to increase your wealth is to invest in the lenders or those growing their successful businesses. 
 

Don Corey  

Reply to William Peters    
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Amen to that
 
 
David Amos
Reply to  David Webb
Polonius advised “Neither a borrower nor a lender be”
 
 
Don Corey  
Reply to David Amos     
Ernie sure isn't a finance whiz, but at least he doesn't spend/throw away money recklessly like his federal counterpart. 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Ernie just does what he is told 
 
 
Dennis Woodman   
Reply to  David Webb 
If it’s the difference in buying or not , then the 30 yr is good news. You can always reduce the amortization when it comes due ( especially if rates go down) 
 
 
David Webb 
Reply to Dennis Woodman   
If one needs a 30 year mortgage to buy a home, your buying way more than you can afford, unless one is expecting to increase their income substantially as time goes on.
 
 
 
 
 
Don Corey 
The latest poll shows Poilievre with a 20 point lead over Trudeau. It is obvious that Canadians have simply had enough of Trudeau (for many very good reasons), and the latest federal spending spree (for one reason only, and that's to up their standing in the polls) just isn't working for them. What a shame......

Holt is wise to totally distance herself and party from Trudeau and the extreme left federal Liberals.

 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey  
She sang a different tune not long ago  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos     
Oct. 2, 2023

The chief of staff to New Brunswick Liberal Leader Susan Holt has resigned as speculation rises about an early election call.

 
Don Corey  
Reply to David Amos     
She's no doubt also watching the polls very closely, and for sure we can throw in this week's inquiry inconsistencies.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey  
Holt says Lockhart, who was a Liberal member of Parliament for Fundy Royal from 2015-19, was one of the first people she hired after winning the party's leadership race in August 2022. 
 

Don Corey  
Reply to David Amos     
Interesting that she had nothing to say about the Outhouse appointment.


David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
He was with Scott Reid and the boys when he landed in NB
 

David Amos
Reply to David Amos     
Ahead of the 2006 Canadian federal election, Reid came under heavy criticism after attacking a Conservative Party of Canada policy proposal to directly give families funding for childcare, declaring that "don't give people 25 bucks a week to blow on beer and popcorn. He later apologised for the statement. The quote was cited by some commentators as one of the decisive moments of the 2006 election, contributing to a perception of the Liberal Party as out-of-touch elitists and to their eventual defeat 
 
 
David Amos
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David Herle is a Canadian political consultant and Principal Partner at leading polling and research firm, The Gandalf Group. He is also a regular CBC commentator.

Herle was a top advisor to former Prime Minister Paul Martin. He was Liberal Party of Canada campaign co-chair for 2004 and 2006. During the 2004 election, as prospects for the Liberals began looking poor, Herle was a strong advocate of attacking Martin's primary opponent, Stephen Harper. In the 2006 election, a similar strategy did not result in similar success.

Herle was managing co-chair for Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne's successful reelection campaign in 2014 and again in 2018 when the Ontario Liberals finished in third place. During the several years that Herle worked for the Ontario Liberal government, his firm was paid $3.4 million.[1][2]

David Herle is now the host of The Herle Burly podcast.

 
 
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Apparently the conditions that have Higgs & Co in a kerfuffel about the feds' housing funding are the requirements to eliminate single-family zoning (not single-family homes, just the zoning that says only SF homes can be built in a given area) and to allow automatic authorization of four-plexes. These don't sound "leftist" to me. They sound like a sensible way to build more housing without requiring municipalities to greatly expand their water/sewer pipe networks. They also sound like a more sensible use of land that preserves existing agricultural land and public green spaces. 
 
 
Allan Marven
Reply to SarahRose Werner
Everyone needs to get over lefty righty and start listening to the message. Trudeaus is nauseating.  
 
 
David Webb
Reply to SarahRose Werner 
I would bet that you are an apartment dweller, otherwise you would see the issue if your neighbour owned a double or triple lot and stuck up a fourplex up on each side of you in a detached SF dwelling zone. What "may" work in Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal is not suitable in all municipalities. 
 
 
MR Cain   
Reply to  David Webb 
We have more than enough space. Increase the density where the amenities are. What is the difference between a duplex and a fourplex? A front entry in the back.





Frank Wentworth   
Half of Higgs caucus have distanced themselves from him.    
 
 
 
 
Brian Robertson
Can you blame her?

It would be like going swimming with an anchor strapped to your chest.

 
 
 
 
Ron parker 
Some folks in higgs party are distancing from him so far as to quit.  
 
 
Samual Johnston 
Reply to Ron parker
And your thoughts on Holt and JT? 
 
 
Ron parker 
Reply to Ron parker  
Not a fan of either one however she is wise to distance herself. 


Don Corey  
Reply to Ron parker  
How do you know they've quit the party? 
 
 
Brian Robertson 
Reply to Ron parker  
And he's still doing better than Holt.  


Ron parker 
Reply to Brian Robertson  
happy you think so. 
 
 
Ron parker
Reply to Don Corey  
they quit higgs for sure.
 






 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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