https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carbon-tax-food-prices-wherry-analysis-1.6989547#vf-0d576707-e9e8-4fc8-907b-90ad235ad22c

Is the carbon tax an easy scapegoat for high food prices?
Affordability arguments in favour of killing the tax ignore the impact
climate change has on food prices

Aaron Wherry · CBC News · Posted: Oct 07, 2023 5:00 AM ADT


A grocery store aisle. The Summerhill Market in Toronto on Wednesday
February 2, 2022. The affordability argument against carbon pricing
ignores some inconvenient facts. (Frank Gunn/The Canadian Press)

Seven years ago this week, Justin Trudeau stood in the House of
Commons and announced that his government would implement a national
price on carbon emissions.

It remains one of the boldest and most consequential decisions of his
time in office. It's also one of the most loudly contested — even
after two federal elections that might have been expected to settle
the issue.

This week, the House voted on yet another Conservative motion calling
on MPs to condemn the carbon tax — the Official Opposition's fifth
such motion in the last 12 months. This time, the Conservatives were
able to win the support of one Liberal backbencher — Ken McDonald, who
represents the Newfoundland riding of Avalon — illustrating the public
consternation Liberal climate policies are facing in Atlantic Canada.

But the Conservatives are also hammering away with television ads that
blame the carbon tax for the high price of groceries, an argument that
might hold particular power as Canadians prepare to celebrate
Thanksgiving.

Pierre Poilievre speaks from the podium Conservative Leader Pierre
Poilievre's statements about the impact carbon pricing has on
affordability ignore one big factor: the rebates. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

"Mr. Speaker, when one taxes the fuel of the farmers who make the food
and the fuel of the truckers who ship the food, then one taxes all
those who buy the food," Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre told the
House this week, ably reenacting his party's ads.

This period of high inflation certainly presents a fresh political
test for any climate policy that creates a new cost for industry or
consumers. But in the debate about food prices, the carbon tax is
being saddled with an outsized and undeserved role — one that,
ironically, distracts from the very real impact climate change and
extreme weather are having, and will have, on the cost of groceries.
What's really driving up food prices?

It's not that the carbon tax has no impact on food prices and
inflation. It's just not obvious that it is having a particularly
large impact.

The Bank of Canada has estimated that the carbon tax increases
inflation by 0.15 per cent. Trevor Tombe, an economist at the
University of Calgary who has studied the impact of the carbon price
on consumer costs, points to Statistics Canada data that suggests its
impact on food prices is less than one per cent.

That's not nothing, and every dollar counts when it comes to the cost
of essentials, particularly for those on low incomes.

But concerns about the impact of the carbon tax also tend to ignore
the fact that the policy has two parts — a fuel charge collected by
the federal government and a rebate that returns 90 per cent of the
revenue generated by the levy to Canadian households. (The remaining
10 per cent is directed toward businesses, farmers and Indigenous
communities.)

    N.L. Liberal MP votes against carbon tax a 2nd time, says
Guilbeault wrong messenger for policy

    Analysis
    Are we voting with our wallets to overheat the planet?

    'Best-before date' looms over Liberals if Canadians don't get a
break, says MP Ken McDonald

Unlike any number of other federal and provincial policies that might
be said to contribute to the cost of food — from corporate taxes to
food safety regulations — the federal carbon tax comes with a rebate.

The parliamentary budget officer has consistently found that nearly
all households receive more from the rebate than they pay in direct
and indirect costs. Only households in the highest income quintile are
projected to pay out more than they receive — because they consume
more. Repealing the carbon tax could actually leave many Canadians
worse off.

Recent polling suggests a sizeable number of Canadians like the idea
of reducing or eliminating the carbon tax. Maybe the same would be
true of a poll about any kind of tax. Regardless, the Liberals might
need to redouble efforts now to make the case for one of Trudeau's
signature policies.

But any discussion of food prices has to include the impact of climate
change — the very problem that the carbon tax is meant to help combat.

An analysis from Statistics Canada published last November linked
"erratic weather"— including droughts, heat waves, flooding and heavy
rainfall — with increases in the prices of meat, fruit, vegetables,
sugar and coffee. In June, economists at RBC reported that, while food
price inflation was expected to slow, a return to pre-pandemic prices
was unlikely — in part because "extreme weather events are becoming
more frequent across different regions and could meaningfully limit
farm production."

An aerial view of a flood-damaged farm. Mud and debris covers a farm
on the Nicola River that was destroyed by flooding in November, west
of Merritt, B.C., on Wednesday, March 23, 2022. (Darryl Dyck/The
Canadian Press)

Other sources of inflation cited by RBC include Russia's invasion of
Ukraine, supply chain disruptions and labour shortages. And Canada is
hardly alone in feeling the impact on food prices.

Kelleen Wiseman, academic director of the master of food and resource
economics program at the University of British Columbia, said price
increases from extreme weather events typically are temporary. But
Mike von Massow, a professor of food economics at the University of
Guelph, said "the impact of climate [on food prices] is at least an
order of magnitude bigger than the impact of the carbon tax."

"I think that there is little doubt that extreme weather, the
increasing frequency and severity, is not only causing food price
inflation but will lead to ongoing greater instability in food
prices," vow Massow said. "It'll be much more difficult to predict
where we're going because of the unpredictability of these weather
events."

In hopes of containing prices, the federal government has put its
focus on major retailers. Von Massow said that what's really needed is
a broader "food system discussion" that brings all the players
together to talk about building a resilient, integrated system that
can withstand the forces that climate change is unleashing.
Why is the carbon tax taking the blame?

Tombe, who has also dismissed the utility of blaming retailers, has
suggested it would make more sense to look at dismantling the supply
management system for dairy and poultry in Canada. Regardless of how
one feels about that proposal, it's at least interesting to note that
no political party is choosing to make supply management a target
right now — while scorn is being heaped on the carbon tax.

Across the federal parties, support for supply management is virtually
unanimous. Killing it might lower prices of milk, eggs and chicken for
consumers. But the major parties apparently have calculated that the
political and practical benefits of the system outweigh its costs —
that the trade-offs are worth it.

About 30 cows crowd around to investigate the camera in an outdoor
pasture at Tiny Acres Holsteins. A tractor and some of the Bryantons'
fields are visible in the background. Supply management retains broad
support in mainstream Canadian politics, even though it drives up the
cost of food. (Nicola MacLeod/CBC)

The presence of the rebate minimizes the degree to which the federal
carbon tax requires any kind of trade-off. But to the degree carbon
pricing does increase costs for fuel and other goods, the trade-off is
reducing the greenhouse gas emissions that cause climate change.

Economists have long argued that putting a price on carbon is the
least expensive way to drive emissions down. And Trudeau is hardly
alone in accepting that logic. According to the World Bank, 23 per
cent of global emissions are now covered by some kind of pricing
policy — up from 13 per cent in 2016.

The federal carbon tax might someday come to be as politically
untouchable as supply management. For now, the Conservatives seem to
believe it's in their interests to direct anger at the carbon tax —
even while they seem unable to say what they would do instead to
reduce emissions.

But if climate policy is going to be scapegoated every time the price
of groceries goes up, Canada is going to have a very hard time
sustaining a serious response to climate change.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Aaron Wherry

Senior writer

Aaron Wherry has covered Parliament Hill since 2007 and has written
for Maclean's, the National Post and the Globe and Mail. He is the
author of Promise & Peril, a book about Justin Trudeau's years in
power.
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6444 Comments


Don Corey
The carbon tax provides a source of funds to pay for another Trudeau
income redistribution scheme. There has been no demonstrable impact on
reducing carbon emissions (contrary to what some here are saying), so
it is a tax that does nothing other than to add to our daily cost of
living. Scrap it!


Ted Thompson
Reply to Don Corey
Bingo....the defenders here say removing the tax will hurt low income
and seniors = wealth distribution.


Jon Moddle
Reply to Ted Thompson
So you're against helping low income families and giving back to those in need?


Don Corey
Reply to Ted Thompson
Exactly. I'm a senior, but I'll survive without Trudeau's so called
carbon cheque.


Brad Hansen
Reply to Jon Moddle
Why not let them keep their money in the first place? Why the shell game?


Jon Moddle
Reply to Brad Hansen
They get more back this way, why are you against that?


Brad Hansen
Reply to Jon Moddle
You keep believing that...carry on.


Jon Moddle
Reply to Brad Hansen
It's a fact, so yes I will.


Brad Hansen
Reply to Jon Moddle
Not according to the PBO.


Jon Moddle
Reply to Brad Hansen
You should read that again.


David R. Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Me too but I have no choice in the matter without a SIN



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/mcdonald-carbon-tax-vote-23-1.6988126

N.L. Liberal MP votes against carbon tax a 2nd time, says Guilbeault
wrong messenger for policy
Ken McDonald was the only member of Parliament to break rank during
the vote on Wednesday

Alex Kennedy · CBC News · Posted: Oct 05, 2023 6:17 PM ADT



Liberal backbencher Ken McDonald defends voting with Conservatives to
repeal carbon pricing system
Duration 1:13
Featured VideoAvalon MP Ken McDonald was the only member of the
Liberal, Bloc Quebecois or NDP caucuses who sided with Conservative
Leader Pierre Poilievre’s proposal to scrap all carbon taxes.
McDonald, who got a standing ovation from the Conservatives, said he
was standing up for his constituents.

 A Liberal member of Parliament has broken ranks with the government
on its carbon tax for the second time, saying federal Environment
Minister Steven Guilbeault is the wrong person to sell the party's
environmental messaging in Atlantic Canada.

Ken McDonald, MP for Newfoundland and Labrador's Avalon riding, voted
with the federal Conservatives on Wednesday on a non-binding motion to
repeal the carbon tax, the only member of the Liberal, NDP or Bloc
Québécois caucuses to do so. Speaking with CBC News on Thursday, he
said he believes the policy will cost the Liberals votes in the next
election.

"Everywhere I go, people come up to me and say, you know, 'We're
losing faith in the Liberal party," McDonald said in an interview with
the CBC's Power & Politics.

"I think they will lose seats not just in Newfoundland, not just in
Atlantic Canada, but indeed right across the country if they don't get
a grasp on this the way that I think they should.… And if if an
election were called today, I'm not sure if the Liberal party would
actually form the government."

    N.L. Liberal MP votes with Conservatives over home heating fuel
carbon tax exemption

McDonald also said he didn't think federal Environment Minister Steven
Guilbeault is the right messenger for the carbon tax in Atlantic
Canada.

"He's not, because he's so entrenched in it," McDonald said. "And I
get it, where he came from, and his whole idea of making a big
difference in climate change, but you can't do it all overnight. You
can't make it more expensive on people than what they can handle. And
that's exactly what's happening right now."
 WATCH | See why Ken McDonald cast his vote against his own party:

Liberal MP votes with Conservatives to oppose carbon tax
Duration 8:11
Newfoundland and Labrador Liberal MP Ken McDonald was the only member
of his caucus to vote in favour of a Conservative motion to repeal all
carbon taxes. He says the federal carbon tax disproportionately
affects Atlantic Canada.

The federal Liberals need to look at it from the perspective of people
in rural Atlantic Canada, he said.

"The government has to put a lens on it, a rural lens, for the sake of
a better word, and try and come up with a plan that's satisfactory and
appealable to people who live in rural," he said. "Maybe no plan will
be appealable to rural, I don't know. But I think the government has
to try, and if they do that, I think they got a chance of moving past
it."

It's not the first time McDonald has sided against the party on the
carbon tax. He voted against it in October 2022, prompting a standing
ovation from the Conservatives.

McDonald said Thursday he also voted against the policy to show
support for Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Andrew Furey, who has
asked the federal government to do more to minimize the tax's impact
on the province and Atlantic Canada.
Fellow N.L. MP says Opposition motion doesn't help Canadians

In Corner Brook on Thursday, Gudie Hutchings, Liberal MP for N.L.'s
Long Range Mountains riding, noted McDonald was the only one who
didn't vote with the government.

"The Bloc voted with us, the NDP voted with us as well. I believe in
policies and private members' bills and Opposition Day motions and
motions that are going to make a difference for Canadians. This one
isn't," said Hutchings.

Two politicians smile and look to their right in a legislature as they
stand and wait for something. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, right,
and Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre went back and forth Thursday
in the House of Commons regarding McDonald's decision to vote against
the government. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

On Thursday in the House of Commons, Conservative Leader Pierre
Poilievre said McDonald's vote shows the policy doesn't help
Canadians.

"This carbon tax is not worth the cost, and it's not just me saying
it. The Liberal member for Avalon has said, and I quote 'We are
punishing rural areas of our country and the most vulnerable people in
society," said Poilievre, who called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
to listen to Furey's call to "axe the tax."

Trudeau defended the policy, saying the impact of climate change is clear.

"In all the conversations I had with rural Canadians across the
country this summer, they were devastated by the impacts of record
wildfires, of floods, of droughts, of heat waves," Trudeau said.

"They see the impact of climate change, and they know that we need to
continue to fight climate change while putting money back in their
pockets. That's exactly what our price on pollution does."

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Alex Kennedy

Journalist

Alex Kennedy is a digital reporter with CBC Newfoundland and Labrador
based in Corner Brook. He previously worked with CBC N.L. in St.
John's, and has a particular interest in stories about sports and
interesting people.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/ken-mcdonald-liberal-future-nl-1.6971098

'Best-before date' looms over Liberals if Canadians don't get a break,
says MP Ken McDonald
Liberal MP hopes federal government will claw back taxes on gas and heating oil

Mike Moore · CBC News · Posted: Sep 19, 2023 7:50 AM ADT


Ken McDonald is the Liberal MP for Conception Bay South in
Newfoundland and Labrador. Ken McDonald, Liberal MP for Avalon,
pitched a rural carbon tax carve out to the prime minister at the
national Liberal caucus meeting in London, Ont. (Olivia
Stefanovich/CBC)

 At least one Liberal MP representing Newfoundland and Labrador
believes the clock may be ticking on his party's time in power.

Parliament is back in session after a summer of increased wildfires,
inflation, spikes in the cost of living, and housing shortages across
the country.

Newfoundland and Labrador hasn't been immune to many of these
problems. The rising cost of rent and lack of available housing is
putting pressure on the province and its municipalities to find a
quick solution.

There's also been a rise in the popularity of opposition Conservative
Leader Pierre Poilievre, according to numerous opinion polls that
point to a widening lead over Justin Trudeau and the federal Liberals.

Although Avalon MP Ken McDonald says his party needs to get a handle
on ahead of the next election or possibly risk losing government.

"I think we have to come up with some policies and some programs that
help to ease the pain of what people are facing today," McDonald told
CBC News.

"That's something that happens regularly. And I don't know if the
best-before date is gone, yet, on the Liberal Party. But it's getting
there if Canadians are not seeing a break real soon."

In October of last year, McDonald was the only Liberal to stand in
support of a Conservative motion to exempt home heating fuel from the
federal carbon tax.

    N.L. Liberal MP votes with Conservatives over home heating fuel
carbon tax exemption

    Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre tours Newfoundland with
promises to cut carbon tax

About 48,000 homes in Newfoundland and Labrador use oil as their
primary source of heating, and with the rising cost over the last few
years some residents' wallets have been squeezed dry — the carbon tax
makes the fuel that much more expensive by 17 cents more per litre.

That's on top of the federal government's Clean Fuels Strategy, which
adds 14 cents to a litre of gas. The provincial Liberals dropped its
own tax on gas on July 1 when the federal strategy came into play.
Tories are hitting pocketbook issues, MP says

Poilievre's campaign has been centred around one slogan: "Axe the
tax." His focus during visits to Newfoundland and Labrador over the
last 18 months has been on lowering the cost of home heating oils.

McDonald believes that's why the opposition leader may be out in front.

A man wearing a blue shirt holding a microphone and standing on a
stage. Behind him is a black backdrop and Canadian flags. Pierre
Poilievre, leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, has been
touring Newfoundland and Labrador with promises to cut the tax on home
heating fuels. (Danny Arsenault/CBC)

"That, I think, hits home to everybody because everybody realizes that
whether it be through the Clean Fuels Strategy or the rise in the cost
of home heating oil, you name it, it's partially because of some taxes
that have been put on to those particular items," he said.

"When you hurt people in the pocketbook, they remember it. When you
promise to not hurt them in the pocketbook, or to eliminate a tax that
they're now paying, that bodes well with the every day Canadian when
it comes to their pocketbook issues."

McDonald said he is not nervous and the mood within his party is
"pretty good" heading into the fall session, and following a national
Liberal caucus retreat in London, Ont.

McDonald said he and others put their concerns on the table.

"What some of us, myself included, have mentioned … is either give a
break on the home heating fuel tax and the Clean Fuel Strategy for a
certain length of time. I think people would look at that as being
favourable," he said.

"Will it ever come back again? I don't know. Will the government
actually do something in that regard? We keep talking about it. We
talk about it to ministers, we talk about it at caucuses. Some of us
are really hoping that we do something to ease the burden, especially
on people that live in rural communities."

With files from On The Go
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-atlantic-mps-pitches-carbon-tax-rural-carve-out-1.6966939

Atlantic Liberal MPs press Trudeau for rural carbon tax carve-out
MPs say their constituents need more relief from the rising cost of living

Olivia Stefanovich · CBC News · Posted: Sep 15, 2023 1:11 PM ADT


A driver fills car at gas station.
Atlantic Canadian members of the federal Liberal caucus are calling on
the federal government to cut the region some extra slack on carbon
pricing. (Kevin Yarr/CBC)

Atlantic Liberal MPs say they want an additional rural carve-out on
the carbon tax to ease cost-of-living pressures specific to Canadians
living outside of major urban centres.

MP Ken McDonald, who represents the riding of Avalon in Newfoundland
and Labrador, said many of his constituents feel abandoned by the
federal government.

He brought their concerns to the attention of Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau during the national Liberal caucus meetings this week in
London, Ont.

"I told him exactly as it is," McDonald said. "We're punishing the
rural areas of our country and the most vulnerable people in our
society."

McDonald is pushing for a special policy for rural Canadians that
would include carbon tax rebates higher than those the backstop
program currently offers.

Ken McDonald is the Liberal MP for Conception Bay South in
Newfoundland and Labrador. Ken McDonald, Liberal MP for Conception Bay
South in Newfoundland and Labrador, pitched a rural carbon tax
carve-out to the prime minister at the national Liberal caucus meeting
in London, Ont. (Olivia Stefanovich/CBC)

The federal carbon tax applies in provinces and territories that don't
have carbon pricing systems that Ottawa considers sufficient to lower
greenhouse gas emissions.

The government already gives a supplement to residents of rural and
small communities that increases the amount of rebates in their
province by 10 per cent to account for increased energy needs and
reduced access to transportation options.

Under the program, residents in Newfoundland and Labrador receive
payments every three months: $164 for people who live alone, $82 for a
spouse or common-law partner, $41 per child under the age of 19 and
$82 for the first child in a single-parent family.

    Analysis
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    Behind closed doors, Liberal MPs have 'robust' discussion about
government's challenges

In Nova Scotia, those amounts are even lower. Liberal Atlantic caucus
chair Kody Blois said those payments aren't high enough.

"There should be a higher rural rebate," said Blois, who represents
the Nova Scotia riding of Kings—Hants.

"The policy is the right intent, but I think we need to have some adjustments."

A man in a suit and tie. Kody Blois, chair of the national Liberal
rural caucus and Nova Scotia Liberal caucus, says he wants higher
carbon tax rebates for rural Canadians. (Mark Crosby/CBC)

McDonald said Trudeau acknowledged there's an issue in rural areas and
said the government will see if there's something it can do.

"People will be very upset when the ballot box comes up the next time
if we don't," McDonald said.

"That's what the prime minister is hearing loud and clear."

McDonald said he was moved to speak up after hearing about the
struggles of rural Canadians. He said one constituent called him to
say she can't afford home heating oil anymore.

"She said, 'I go around my house with a blanket wrapped around me.'
And she said, 'The only time I get to have beef or chicken is if my
niece or nephew invites me out to Sunday dinner,'" he said.

McDonald said he tells that story to everyone he talks to in government.

"I think government is starting to understand it," McDonald said.

"At first, some people said to me, like, there's nobody living like
that … And I said, 'If you don't think people are living like that,
you're not living in the real world.'"

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announces new affordability measures, as
he concludes the national Liberal caucus retreat in London, Ontario.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau wrapped up national Liberal caucus
meetings in London, Ont. on Thursday without announcing any relief for
rural Canadians struggling to pay for fuel. (Sylvain Lepage/CBC News)

In Newfoundland and Labrador, he said, many consumer goods come in on
aircraft or ferries, which burn fuel.

McDonald said he isn't surprised by the Liberals' plummeting poll
numbers because Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre's "axe the tax"
campaign is telling people what they want to hear.

He said Trudeau needs to travel across the country, shake some hands
and let people know he still has their backs.

"I hope the government is going to listen and do something or the
government will be in trouble," McDonald said.

    Trudeau announces $74M to help London, Ont., build 2,000 new homes

    Spooked by polls, Liberal MPs hope Trudeau hears their concerns as
caucus gathers

McDonald said while Ottawa must do its part to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions, the burden of that effort shouldn't fall on the backs of
the most vulnerable.

"I will continue to stand up for the constituents, which I represent,
whether it's favourable to the government or unfavourable," McDonald
said.

"I want to make sure they have their voice heard."
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Olivia Stefanovich

Senior reporter

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based in Ottawa. She previously worked in Toronto, Saskatchewan and
northern Ontario. Connect with her on Twitter at @CBCOlivia. Story
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