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David Amos 
Methinks the judges agree with my opinion of actuaries and the creation of Higggy's beloved Vestcor N'esy Pas?

"A team from Morneau Shepell worked with the government-appointed expert task force and collaborating unions on the Shared Risk Pension Plan (SRPP) design for the Province of New Brunswick. As actuary on this project, Morneau Shepell consulted on the development of the new plan design and provided in-depth analysis."

 
 
 

Pension bill targeting school board, nursing home workers grants a pass to judges

Financially troubled judicial pension plan excused from 'fairness' changes being forced on others

A decision by the New Brunswick government to exclude a financially troubled pension plan for provincial court judges from changes being forced on five other government pension plans is testing arguments that fiscal responsibility and fairness are soley behind the controversial initiative.

Last week, Finance Minister Ernie Steeves introduced the Pension Plan Sustainability and Transfer Act  to force five government "defined-benefit" pension plans serving school board and nursing home employees to switch to a "shared-risk" model.

The existing defined-benefit plans offer pensioners guaranteed retirement amounts that the province has to pay for if pension funds are not sufficient to meet the obligations.  

Shared-risk plans limit the amount government is responsible for when full retirement benefits and inflation protection of those benefits exceed a pension fund's ability to fully pay for them.

Premier Blaine Higgs told MLAs the forced changes were necessary to fix funding problems with the "five unsustainable pension plans" and to promote equity with other provincial government plans serving teachers, civil servants and others that switched to the shared-risk model years ago. 

"The current pension plans are unsustainable and our government has a responsibility to ensure all pension plan participants have a plan comparable to other government employees," Higgs said before the pension bill was introduced,

steve drost CUPE president Stephen Drost says members in unions having their pensions changed unilaterally by the New Brunswick government are preparing to respond 'We certainly are looking at every action, and this is not just going to be symbolic." (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

However, contrary to what the premier suggested, not all of the five plans targeted by the legislation are in financial difficulty.

According to the government's own briefing materials, two of the five pension funds, including one that serves 500 current and retired nursing home managers and one that serves more than 1,000 nurses and paramedical employees working in nursing homes, are both fully funded with surpluses. 

The three remaining pension plans targeted by the legislation do have deficits, but all three serve members of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, and union official Mark Janson said those deficits were primarily caused by the province in the first place. 

He points to an independent labour arbitration review in 2021 that found one of the school board pension funds was wrongly starved for money by the province over several years by withholding millions of dollars in required  payments.

He also points to a second report issued earlier this year by Angela Mazerolle, New Brunswick superintendent of pensions, who found a series of finance ministers beginning with Higgs in 2014 failed to properly supervise the funding of the financially troubled pension plan for nursing home workers.

"I think there was a political decision at some point by the New Brunswick government to just not fund these plans as part of a political effort to move them into the shared-risk model," Janson said.

A man in a blue suit and tie shrugs as he answers questions before an array of journalists' microphones. Premier Blaine Higgs said he was compelled to take action against 'five unsustainable pension plans,' although two are running a surplus and the other three are in better financial shape than a pension plan for judges that is not changing. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Another oddity in the legislation is that the five pension funds being forced to change for being "unsustainable" are all in better financial shape than a pension plan that serves provincial court judges, which is nevertheless excluded from the legislation.

Judges have a defined-benefit pension plan like the five targeted plans but with more expensive provisions.

Judicial retirement benefits accumulate at three per cent of a judge's salary per year, a rate up to double those in the other five plans. 

Judges earn $300,000 a year. That salary, combined with the rate at which retirement benefits accumulate, can qualify a provincial court judge for a $90,000 annual lifetime and indexed pension after just 10 years on the bench.  

Maximum pensions of up to $195,000 at current pay scales can be earned after 22 years of service.

The financing of benefits that generous has saddled the judge's pension fund with a significant deficit that in the past the province has said needs to be fixed.

According to New Brunswick's latest public accounts, the plan's "net benefit liability," or the amount that pension obligations exceed pension assets, was $46.3 million in March.  

With only 65 current and retired judges and surviving spouses in the plan, it is a funding shortfall of  $712,300 per plan member.

A row of several people holding a sign saying "We are worth it" walking along a sidewalk. Nursing home workers walk along Mountain Road in Moncton's north end this summer. Earlier this year New Brunswick's supervisor of pensions found that as finance minister in 2014 Blaine Higgs failed to have the adequacy of their pension plan funding reviewed. (Shane Magee/CBC)

By contrast the shortfall in the three pension plans with deficits the provincial government is forcing to change is just over $22,000 per current and retired employee.

In the legislature last Friday, Higgs said any government-sponsored pension plan that requires the province to fund a pension plan at levels "three to one, four to one" of what members of the plan themselves contribute is wrong.

"It's not fair," Higgs said. "It's not fair, so you'd have to say this needs to be fixed."

The judge's plan requires the province to pay nearly six to one what judges pay to support the plan, a level none of the other plans approach.

Last year, lawyers for the provincial government told New Brunswick's Judicial Remuneration Commission there was no reason for judges to have a pension plan as expensive as this one.

It asked the commission to approve a switch of the judges pension plan to a shared-risk model with benefits similar to other government plans.   

"As was expected, the Provincial Court Judges Association vigorously opposed these changes," the three-person commission said in its account of the province's pension proposals.

The commission eventually sided with judges and recommended against the pension changes but noted in its final report that the government was free to reject its advice on this or any issue related to judicial pay, if it had a reason significant enough.

"The government can reject or vary the commission's recommendations provided that legitimate reasons are given," it said, quoting a Supreme Court decision outlining how that procedure works.

Instead, the province accepted the commission's recommendation to keep the judges' pension plan unchanged and then excluded it from the forced changes the five other plans now face.

Questions posed to the Finance Department by CBC News last week about why an initiative to forcibly fix "unsustainable" pension plans includes two plans not in financial difficulty and excludes one with the largest funding deficit of any government plan were acknowledged, but have not been answered.

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Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006.

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Provincial court judges win salary, pension dispute with Higgs government

Province tried to change pay model but says it will accept independent commission’s recommendations

An independent commission has rejected the Higgs government's proposals on salaries and pensions for provincial court judges.

And the province says it accepts that decision and will go along with the commission's recommendations.

The government argued for smaller pay raises than what judges wanted during a hearing last year and made a case for putting their pensions under the province's shared-risk system.

The judges responded that the government's reasoning was flawed, didn't account for inflation and would jeopardize their independence.

The commission agreed with the provincial court judges that their salaries should remain linked by a formula to the salaries of Court of King's Bench justices, who are paid by the federal government.

"We are of the view that linkage of the salaries creates certainty for all involved," the report says.

Lawyer office. Judge gavel and law books, banner. 3d illustration. Illustration ID: 642994258     A Justice Department spokesperson said the province would comply with all eight of the commission's recommendations. (Shutterstock)

"Linkage assists in fostering respect for the commission process. Linkage avoids litigation and subsequent allegations of unfairness and bad faith."

Justice department spokesperson Geoffrey Downey said the province would comply with the recommendations.

"The commission's report has been received and reviewed by the department, and all eight recommendations were approved," he said.

The report was tabled at the legislature April 11.

Province wanted salaries tied to N.B civil servants

Under provincial law, a commission is appointed every four years to make decisions on the salaries and pensions.

That is because of the principle that the salaries of judges shouldn't be set by the province, which prosecutes criminal cases that the judges hear.

As of April 1, the commission estimates King's Bench judges would be earning $381,505. Provincial court judge salaries, indexed at 80 per cent of that amount, would be $305,204.

The commission heard arguments from the province and the Provincial Court Judges Association last year.

The province tried to argue that salaries should be "de-linked" from the King's Bench salaries and indexed to those of civil servants because of "continued challenges in restoring balance to New Brunswick's finances."

That would have meant increases of two per cent per year for four years, starting in 2020.

But the judges argued that the economy was bouncing back stronger than ever after a major pandemic slowdown in 2020. 

The province had a surplus of $408.5 million in 2020-21 and was projecting a surplus of $487.8 million for 2021-222 at the time the commission was hearing arguments.

And with inflation estimated at 17.4 per cent over the four-year mandate of the commission, the province's proposal would amount to "a substantial reduction in real salary."

The commission agreed with that. 

Pension reforms also rejected

On pensions, the commission rejected the province's arguments for incorporating the judges into the shared-risk plan, in which the majority of public-sector employees are enrolled.

The government argued the existing plan was costly, with taxpayers contributing $5.77 for every dollar from a judge. 

But the judges said it would put their pensions under the control of the board of Vestcor, the provincial pension management corporation, which has a board made up of provincial and union representatives.

"This would create the untenable perception and the real risk that judges would be vulnerable to economic manipulation from both the government and the largest unions in the province," the report says, citing the association.

The commission agreed.

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Jacques Poitras

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Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

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David Amos
"On pensions, the commission rejected the province's arguments for incorporating the judges into the shared-risk plan, in which the majority of public-sector employees are enrolled."

Hence the judges will not lose a dime from their pensions the next time the stock market takes a dive

CBC News · Posted: Mar 11, 2009 5:46 AM ADT

The New Brunswick government is in line for a massive $800-million deficit in 2009-10 and is planning a series of program cuts and significant reductions in the civil service, a government official confirmed Tuesday night.

When Finance Minister Victor Boudreau tables his budget March 17, the official said, it will include a large deficit, more than one-third of which will be blamed on losses incurred by provincial pension plans on the stock markets.



David Amos 
Methinks the judges agree with my opinion of actuaries and the creation of Higggy's beloved Vestcor N'esy Pas?

"A team from Morneau Shepell worked with the government-appointed expert task force and collaborating unions on the Shared Risk Pension Plan (SRPP) design for the Province of New Brunswick. As actuary on this project, Morneau Shepell consulted on the development of the new plan design and provided in-depth analysis." 

 
Lou Bell
Reply to David Amos
You do realize the pension funds are fully vested now , fully owned by those employees , and th Chair of the Board of the Public Employees investment fund came out and indicated they are completely satisfied with their investments , the performance of the funds , and the latest COL allowance being added to their funds from the past year ? Or don't you ???? 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Lou Bell 
I know Higgy had a hard time forcing the school bus drivers to finally go along with his scheme   
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Lou Bell
Why were the school bus drivers not happy last year? 



 
Lou Bell 
Judges win . Liberals cheer !

Higgs and the taxpayers he represents and fights for lose .

 
David Amos
Reply to Lou Bell 
Did Higgy ever fix this?

CBC News · Posted: Oct 17, 2014 7:05 AM ADT

A former Progressive Conservative MLA says the Alward government missed a chance to end a long-time practice of offering a special pension perk to the province’s senior bureaucrats.

The previous Progressive Conservative government faced a significant backlash from provincial employees for its decision to overhaul civil service pensions by moving to a shared-risk model.

Civil servants accumulate larger pensions the longer they work for the provincial government, but deputy ministers accumulate their pensions at twice the normal rate for the first five years that they are at that top level.

Wes McLean, the former Victoria-Tobique Tory MLA who did not re-offer in the 2014 election, said the switch to a shared-risk pension system should have also eliminated that special arrangement for deputy ministers.

"I'm of the view that it's a relic and needs to be scrapped, especially given New Brunswick's fiscal situation,” he said.

When David Alward’s Progressive Conservative government took on pension reform, the goal was to reduce the long-term cost of the pension program.

McLean says he has a theory about why the Tories stopped short of cutting the extra benefit for deputy ministers while they were changing other elements of the pension system for provincial government employees.

"The water cooler talk was pushback from the deputies themselves,” the former MLA said.

Quispamsis Tory MLA Blaine Higgs, the former finance minister who was in charge of the pension changes, confirmed deputies got to keep the pension perk.

 
 
 
Lou Bell

Large raises for the judges , against Higgs wishes , and the Liberals are on here singing the praises of the judges win ! Much like the Fed Liberals , out of control spending , high inflation , all out of the taxpaying pockets of the middle class !!  
 
 
G. Timothy Walton
Reply to Lou Bell 
Oh no!

Somebody other than a Conservative or a corporate head got to keep pace with inflation. The horror! The horror!

 
David Amos
Reply to G. Timothy Walton
Go Figure

"A third lawsuit is led by the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada, and CUPE, representing 800 current employees, including engineers and prosecutors.

The employees' argument is that changes to pension plans should have been negotiated, not legislated."

 
G. Timothy Walton 
Reply to David Amos 
I wish them luck. 


David Amos
Reply to G. Timothy Walton
Thats long over
 
 
Lou Bell

Reply to G. Timothy Walton 
Sure you do . Until you come to the realization it's YOUR money paying these overpriced public employees ! 


Graham McCormack 
Reply to Lou Bell 
You seem to think all public employees are overpaid. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Wendy Simon  
It doesn't pay to be in the private sector...all you do is pay taxes to keep the public sector in the life they have become accustomed to and continue to enrich on our backs 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Wendy Simon 
Amen 
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to Wendy Simon
Where do you think all that money Trudeau gave away over the last 3 years came from ? The latest is 13 BILLION dollars to a private company to create 1500 jobs !
 
 
 
 
 
Jack Straw 
The whole appointment of Judges is a joke. All political nonsense. And they have the nerve to cry hard times. Do you think any of them would have resigned if these changes had gone through? They cry independence yet are all political appointments. 
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Jack Straw
Appointed by the government of the day. Difficult for the government to argue hard times with all the surplus and a booming economy. 
 
 
G. Timothy Walton 
Reply to Jack Straw
They have to go through a screening committee before they're recommended to the government. The government in charge doesn't get to pluck people out of, say, teaching law instead of practicing it, like our neighbours to the south. Even Supreme Court nominees come from a short list presented to the Prime Minister. 
 
 
Ronald Miller
Reply to Michael Cain  
Booming economy? Someone does not spend much time reading about what is happening in the world of finance. So the surplus should be used for a few instead of helping to pay down debt which helps everyone. A true JT disciple way of thinking.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Jack Straw 
Welcome to the circus  
 
 
Lou Bell

Reply to Michael Cain  
Spoken like a true Liberal . Don't forget this government has paid down 2 BILLION DOLLARS on provincial debt over the last 2 or 3 years that has been out of control under the Liberals . Higgs fights for the taxpayers . Liberals ? Not so much ! 


Clive Gibbons 
Reply to Jack Straw
Do you think the IOL refinery would close if their property taxes doubled? 
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to Michael Cain
You'd prefer hard times , a huge deficit , and struggling economy it appears ! 
 
 
 
 
 
robert brown
tell us who was on the commission  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to robert brown
Ditto 



robert brown
time for judges to be elected not appointed 


G. Timothy Walton 
Reply to robert brown
Because that's worked so very well for the Americans... 
 
 
Graham McCormack
Reply to robert brown
For the love of God, NO!  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to robert brown
I agree
 
 
 

Ronald Miller
I should also inform those on here that Higgs does not argue these cases, provincial lawyers do, thus ends today's lesson.
 
 
Michael Cain  
Reply to Ronald Miller
I should inform you that the lawyers are taking orders from the premier. This ends today's lesson.
 
 
Ronald Miller
Reply to Michael Cain 
Higgs is not a lawyer, they perform on behalf of the people, now back to your Higgs obsession.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Ronald Miller
Who loves to argue Higgy's lawyers? 
 
 
Michael Cain  
Reply to Ronald Miller
Never said Higgs was a lawyer. A lawyer acts on behalf of the client. The client is the government of New Brunswick, and the premier makes the decision whether or not to pursue legal recourse. 
 

 
 
 
Ronald Miller
As I read the comments below I guess I should not be surprised that the same people who complain about money for this and money for that are the same ones who are on the side of the judges who will get more taxpayer money and not on the side of NBers. 
 
 
Trudy Hebert 
Reply to Ronald Miller
Shared risk pension sucks, no one in NB should be forced into this pension. However, many have been.. I am happy for any NBer that can hold onto their pensions that they deserve. So many of us have not been so lucky.  
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to Trudy Hebert
sucks for who? it is the most fair and reasonable approach to a pension plan. The tax payers should no be on the hook to compensate government worker plans when the economy dips. This was a concept created when the economy was strong and governments gave in to every demand the unions came up with and with out any thought to the future.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Trudy Hebert  
You are not alone with that reasoning

Province spends more than $2M fighting civil servants in court

4 years after lawsuits were launched, legal costs are racking up

Gabrielle Fahmy · CBC News · Posted: Jul 06, 2018 4:00 AM AT 

 
Lou Bell
Reply to Trudy Hebert 
Maybe you need to do more reading . The Chair of the Board for the Public Employees Pension Fund came out and indicated they are very happy with the performance of their fund , the COL increase from last year , and how it's to be handled in the future ! You obviously don't realize until Higgs put in place regulations , that the fund was underfunded by almost 30 % ! Today it's fully funded ,government can no longer dip into it like they did in the past , and fully operated by THE OWNERS of the fund , the public employees themselves ! And yet you indicate you would be happy going back to a 30 % underfunded pension plan , being run by the province ! 
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Trudy Hebert 
Perhaps you should read the article I mentioned above

"The case where resolution seems the most likely is the one filed by Guy Levesque, a former deputy minister with the cabinet secretariat. He sued in 2015, alleging the break in contract is illegal.

Others are watching the case closely as they believe its outcome will impact the other proceedings.

Levesque would not give an interview to CBC because he is under a court order not to speak about the case, pending resolution of the latest motion.

A third lawsuit is led by the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada, and CUPE, representing 800 current employees, including engineers and prosecutors.

The employees' argument is that changes to pension plans should have been negotiated, not legislated."

 
 
 

Pension for MLAs changed to shared-risk plan

It will take 16 years under new plan to accumulate pension that is currently achieved in 8 years

Grandfathered pensions

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New MLA pension plan doesn't change pension of current MLAs

Premier David Alward has introduced a bill to strip down the pensions of future members of the legislative assembly and move MLAs to a shared-risk system.

Under the bill, MLA benefits would be significantly reduced going forward, said Alward.

And under the shared-risk model, MLAs and the province would be equally at risk if pension plan investments don't perform as well as expected.

The changes will save taxpayers about $1.3 million annually, Alward said in a statement on Wednesday.

"Everyone has a role to play in pension reform and MLAs are no different," he said.

"What we need to make sure is that we have all of our plans sustainable for the long-term, and that's good for teachers, that's good for retirees and it's good for taxpayers."

MLAs will be able to retain the service they have accrued to date, but new service will be calculated differently.

Switch in September

The end of the current legislature session is the cut-off for the old system, so the new shared-risk plan will first apply to those elected in September's provincial election.

Any current MLAs who are re-elected in September will effectively have two pensions under two systems. The old rules will apply to what has been contributed, up until the new system takes effect, and be paid out of the government's general revenues.

After the election, all MLAs will contribute into the public service pension fund like civil servants. That fund will be subject to the shared-risk rules, and payments will be based on that as well.

One difference is that while the government has guaranteed the base amount for civil servants, there is no such guarantee for MLAs.

The age for unreduced retirement on future service will also be increased to 65 from 60.

MLAs will be treated like civil servants for the purpose of eligibility and become eligible for a pension after just two years, although the amount received will be small and based on their contributions.

Will take longer to accumulate

Alward says it will take an MLA 16 years under the new system to accumulate a pension equivalent to one that currently takes eight years to achieve.

Former MLAs won't see any reduction in their pension cheques, but they will now receive conditional cost of living increases on par with other members of the shared-risk plan, Alward said.

There are about 90 retired members and 55 active members in both of the existing MLA plans, the government says.

When Alward unveiled his government's new pension plan two years ago, promising MLAs would join, he gave no indication new MLAs would be treated so differently than current MLAs.

Speaker Dale Graham, an MLA for 21 years, for example, who just announced last week that he is retiring this fall, will begin collecting a $71,000-pension. The new rules would have cut his pension to less than $40,000 if they had been retroactive.

Although Alward says current MLA pensions like Graham's, are nearly double the size they should be, it's unfair to change them now.

"Members have contributed up until this point in time as part of the previous plan we have been part of, similar to public servants," said Alward, who has accumulated about $60,000 in annual MLA pension benefits so far, which will also be grandfathered and untouched when the stricter new rules take effect later this year. 

"On a go forward basis we will be part of the shared-risk plan," he said.

The government recently passed legislation to move 33,000 current and former civil servants out of their defined benefit pension plan and into a new shared-risk model.

Employees will have to increase their own contributions to the pension plan by 30 per cent or more starting next spring, even though benefits they can accumulate will be less generous.

The government did, however, give in on cost-of-living adjustments after a huge outcry, guaranteeing their pension payments won't drop below the current level if markets perform poorly.

Finance Minister Blaine Higgs has said he also wants to change the teachers' pension plan to a shared-risk model by the spring.

 
 
 
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Higgs legislation would force 5 public-sector unions into new pension plan

Workers say premier’s bill breaks contract by forcing them into shared-risk system

Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Nov 29, 2023 4:53 PM AST

"The legal expert hired by the province to oversee this move says the shared-risk model has performed well for the employees who joined it almost a decade ago.

"The results have been very good for the members and we anticipate the results to be very good for these members as well," said Halifax lawyer Hugh The legal expert hired by the province to oversee this move says the shared-risk model has performed well for the employees who joined it almost a decade ago.

"The results have been very good for the members and we anticipate the results to be very good for these members as well," said Halifax lawyer Hugh Wright.The legal expert hired by the province to oversee this move says the shared-risk model has performed well for the employees who joined it almost a decade ago.

"The results have been very good for the members and we anticipate the results to be very good for these members as well," said Halifax lawyer Hugh Wright.."

I wonder if Higgy told Mr Wright what I thought of actuaries back in 2013




 

 

Anne Bérubé
I see in my crystal ball that the teachers plan will be grandfathered. They do not want a war with the teachers. Civil servants was different, if you go on strike (for any reason), no big deal, however, parents would not accept a strike by teachers because of their pensions. If it was not to be case, Alward would have waited to announce their pot of gold pension plan after the teachers' plan resolution.So, I see it coming within weeks....more to come.
 
 
David Amos

Reply toAnne Bérubé 
Methinks your crystal did not tell all N'esy Pas?
 
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