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N.B. digs in on rules for teachers and name, pronoun use of LGBTQ students

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N.B. digs in on rules for teachers and name, pronoun use of LGBTQ students

Hogan says policy applies to both formal and informal name changes

In a hastily called news conference on Wednesday, Hogan said he's adjusted the policy to make it clear that teachers will need parental consent before using the chosen name and pronoun of a child under 16 verbally in the classroom.

Hogan said he is not talking about nicknames, and it's up to teachers to know the difference.

"What we're talking about is a name that's attached to a different gender than what they're identified with with their parents," Hogan said. "In that case if they're under the age of 16 we would require parental consent to use that ... otherwise what we're saying is that we're keeping information from parents and that's not the role of the school." 

The requirement for consent doesn't extend to school psychologists and social workers during sessions with a student because those are considered private, said Hogan. 

WATCH | Bill Hogan outlines latest changes on Policy 713:
 

N.B. Education Minister Bill Hogan denies Policy 713 changes discriminate against gender-diverse youth

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New Brunswick's Department of Education clarified its controversial changes to Policy 713, defining the use of names in the classroom as formal. This means parental consent will be required for students under the age of 16 to use their correct names in the classroom.

Earlier changes to Policy 713 were not clear on informal pronoun and name use. The policy, since it was implemented in 2020, has always required parental consent for name changes on official records for students under 16.

Hogan said these adjustments address "all" of child and youth advocate Kelly Lamrock's concerns with the policy. Lamrock, after consulting parents and experts for two months, previously said the policy violates provincial education, privacy and human rights laws, and children's Charter rights by allowing parents to "veto" their children's chosen pronouns, limiting the child's right to privacy, accommodation and equality. 

At the time Lamrock said the policy breaks the law not just because it's unclear. He said having a specific rule for names that relate to gender identity, and not having that rule apply to all name changes, is discriminatory. 

On Wednesday Lamrock said he needs time to review the full legal text of the changes before commenting.

"My recommendations stand," he said.

Man speaking, flags in the background    In a report released in June, New Brunswick's child and youth advocate Kelly Lamrock said changes made to Policy 713 were unclear and discriminatory. (Radio-Canada)

Policy 713 was introduced in 2020 to guarantee minimum support for LGBTQ students, including ensuring that teachers use students' preferred pronouns and that gender-neutral washrooms are available.

In April, Hogan announced the department would review the policy. Both he and Premier Blaine Higgs said the review was triggered by complaints from parents, but have not made any public.

As a result of the review, three sections dealing with self-identification, sports and "universal spaces" were revised "to provide clarity and to respond to the feedback received during consultations," stated a news release following Wednesday's announcement by Hogan.

The review and changes to Policy 713, sparked debate and protests, and even dissent within the Progressive Conservative Party. One PC minister resigned from cabinet and two others were shuffled out after voting with an opposition motion on the subject.

More tweaks announced 

Previous changes to the policy meant children who didn't want to inform their parents had to see a school psychologist or social worker. Now, those children may be "encouraged" to visit a school psychologist or social workers, but it's no longer mandatory, said Hogan on Wednesday.

Even without parental consent, those professionals are now allowed to use the child's chosen name and pronouns during sessions, where they were previously prohibited to do so. 

That change does not apply to teachers, however, because sessions with mental health professionals are private, while the classroom is a "public forum," said Hogan. 

WATCH | From July, we broke down why most of N.B.'s district education councils were creating their own version of Policy 713: 
 

CBC Explains: Why some schools may not even use Higgs’s Policy 713

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Most of New Brunswick’s district education councils are creating their own version of Policy 713, undoing the controversial changes made by the Blaine Higgs government.

He did not explain why that distinction matters when it comes to the child's well-being.

Green Party Leader David Coon said the distinction doesn't make sense.

"Now you have a situation where psychologists, social workers or student, guidance counsellors will be using the chosen name of that youth and their chosen pronouns, where teachers will not be permitted to do so, so this just contradicts exactly what the premier and the minister have been saying their intent is all along," Coon said.

Hogan said these latest changes fix all of the legal problems because they give the school a mechanism to connect the child with their parents in order to obtain consent. He did not say what happens to children's rights if a parent refuses to consent to their chosen pronouns.

Hogan said the policy will not force children to come out to their parents. And the goal is to maintain parental rights.

"We stand by the changes we have made. Parents should be involved in every aspect of their young child's education," said Hogan, according to the government news release.

"At the same time, it was clear there are areas of the policy where further clarity was needed, particularly around some of the definitions used and how students will be supported through major life changes."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Hadeel Ibrahim is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick based in Saint John. She reports in English and Arabic. Email: hadeel.ibrahim@cbc.ca.

 
 
 
909 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos 
Oh My My 


Buford Wilson 
Did he announce anything yet?
 
 
David Amos

Reply to Buford Wilson 
Its obvious that whereas the 19th came and went with no comment whatsoever your hero upped the ante EH?  
 
 
G. Timothy Walton 
Reply to Buford Wilson  
The policy was officially revised and published today.. 
 
 
 
Rosco holt
It's BS, students are required to see a "professional" at school for treatment(term used by minister) so the child can talk to it's parents. Still has the issue if the parents are not supportive. 
 
 
 
SarahRose Werner
In other words, Higgs has consigned Lamrock's report to a portion of his anatomy. Meanwhile the DECs are creating their own policies and school staff are grieving the Higgs' version of 713. This isn't going to be resolved any time soon. 
 
 
 
val harris
Hogan the puppet.. yes Mr Higgs Will do Mr Higgs 
 
 
 
andrew mornay  
It's the parents right to know.

Do we really want to surrender family control to politicians and special interest groups ?

A very slippery slope.

 
 
Andrew Hillman 
How surprising. A "child and youth advocate" slammed the changes. 
 
 

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