Hanwell councillor suspended for 3 months over accusations of spreading misinformation
Pat Septon accused of lying about the actions of Hanwell municipal staff and councillors
But Hanwell Coun. Pat Septon says his fellow councillors are using the municipality's code of conduct to silence him from publicly discussing how the community bordering Fredericton is run.
"They are weaponizing the code of conduct to try to control people's speech," said Septon.
At their regular meeting Wednesday evening, Hanwell councillors voted 4-2 in favour of suspending Septon for 90 days.
Coun. Darren MacKenzie brought the motion forward, and spoke at length during the meeting about how misinformation spread by Septon has caused councillors and municipal staff undue stress.
"A reasonable person would stop when local people are telling them they're doing something wrong, and reevaluate what they're doing, but not in this case. And this is the thing that infuriates me the most," MacKenzie said.
"It's one thing to spread misinformation about your council, but when things that you are saying have been explained to be incorrect many times, it's no longer just misinformation, it's outright lying, and this is something that can't be tolerated any longer."
Hanwell Coun. Darren MacKenzie brought forward the motion to suspend Coun. Pat Septon. (Aidan Cox/CBC)
Septon was asked to be excused from the council chamber for the vote, and left the municipal office when the resolution was passed.
For the next 90 days, Septon will be barred from sitting at the council table, prohibited from participating as a councillor at events, and required to turn over his key to the municipal office.
MacKenzie said council's ability to suspend Septon comes from Bill 45, the Local Governance Act, which received royal assent June 16.
"Before that point it was kind of iffy," MacKenzie said during the meeting.
"We do have a legal opinion from our lawyer that it is OK, but again, I'm not a constitutional lawyer. I can only go by the advice I was given by people who know what they are talking about and I was told that it is fine."
It's unclear on the surface of the act whether that is the case. The new law says the local governance commission — which is yet to be formed — is the authority in charge of investigating alleged code of conduct breaches, and issuing suspensions where appropriate.
Problems go back to 2022: mayor
Conflict on council has been brewing since last fall, but came to a head in December, said Hanwell Mayor Dave Morrison.
He said some councillors and municipal staff made informal complaints that Septon breached the councillors' code of conduct.
"Accusing council [and] staff of falsifying documents and accusing staff of lying," said Morrison, describing what Septon allegedly did.
"A lot of accusations going on, and just stating things that were just not true."
Hanwell Mayor Dave Morrison said Septon's actions have pushed some councillors and municipal staff to consider resigning. (Aidan Cox/CBC)
He said 26 allegations were made against Septon, and an investigation by the municipal clerk deemed 19 to be founded.
That led to Septon being sanctioned, which included a reprimand, his remuneration being suspended for six months, and a requirement he apologize to the clerk and assistant clerk.
Morrison said despite those sanctions, Septon continued breaching the code of conduct, prompting the community to solicit an independent investigator, who also found Septon breached the code of conduct.
"And of course, Coun. Septon refuses to admit any wrongdoing," Morrison said.
"I've had staff say they were going to resign, and I've had councillors say they were going to resign because they basically said they didn't sign up for this."
Septon defends actions
Speaking after the meeting, Septon said the outcome wasn't a surprise to him.
He said there's a sentiment on council that members shouldn't discuss certain issues publicly.
"And that's not the way council should run. It's not the way I want to run. It's not the way I want to represent my community," he said.
Asked if he acknowledged whether some of what he said has been harmful to staff or councillors, Septon said some municipal staff have gone on stress leave.
"Make no mistake, it's stressful for all of us," he said.
David Amos
Duhhh???
"We do have a legal opinion from our lawyer that it is OK, but again, I'm not a constitutional lawyer. I can only go by the advice I was given by people who know what they are talking about and I was told that it is fine."
... and this person was elected, remember, which means he represents the majority view of those who voted for him. So ... is the issue the suspended council person, or is it actually the people who voted him into office who hold the same values and views, or is it the some-odd seventy percent who chose not to vote?
Reply to Dennis Atchison
Or is it that the voters didn't see this side of him before voting day?
That's always a valid question with democracies.
You know the wicked game nearly as well a I do Correct?
Reply to Clive Gibbons
What exactly has he been accused of ?
Reply to Rhys Philbin
Lying about the counsel it looks like and if he wants to work with them then he should stop working against them. IDK if anyone should be going around lying about you right-- It is right at the top
Perhaps you should read it again
Roosevelt Smith
Reply to Roosevelt Smith
seems like a difficult situation --- reading the old minutes -- they had same issue before with a male counsellor verbally abusing a female counsellor and was 'ordered' to apologize but he refused. Seems like he just left or maybe was not reelected?
Welcome back to the circus
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Exactly.
Reply to Kyle Woodman
you tell us....
Reply to Kyle Woodman
details are on their web page as the meetings are recorded and posted of you want to listen it all ---
Reply to Samual Johnston
butthere is a news article right here, that should include those small details ...
Reply to Derek James
could definitely be some more detail but there seems to be a lot that has gone on for a couple years at least..... seems to be he did/said x,y,z - councillors said it was against the 'rules; and told him to stop -- he would not stop -- council sought outside review which confirmed he was breaking rules -- council used rules to suspend him as punishment for not stopping.
Reply to Samual Johnston
Yeah I read through the minutes a bit (time I will never get back). His behavior is definitely offside, but I was hoping for more controversy. I'm not sure why CBC didn't elaborate more, it's all public record. His facebook alone tells one side of the story.
Go Figure
Oh the drama of the new age
Don't ya just love it?
This shows the good and the bad of non politicians getting into politics. The good is they some try to push the envelope a little and speak like we 'the general public' do and act the way we 'say' we would act if in power. Then there is the reality of the position - of acting within the rules, of being polite, of respecting others, of being a politician. Some people (most of us?) are not cut out for these positions. What do you do in. situation like this? While I may complain about politicians I could never be one.
Reply to Samual Johnston
Samual Johnston
Reply to Jos Allaire
maybe not to interpret it but to interpret it properly perhaps
Yes he does
Pat Septon - Hanwell Councillor at Large's Post
It is official. Because of my conversations with NB Poli Podcast and or Cross Border Interviews with Chris BrownI have been suspended from Council. I have so very much to unpack, so much wrong, mis-information presented today. I have to go to court tomorrow to fight to get the information I requested on many things. Stuff I had requested since Nov 2022 and only now getting to see. But how this all started, and a note, the Deputy Mayors argument tonight was mis-remembered. However the code of conduct against me was "In Closed Session". Public recordings is all we have, and of course I shared that this would happen. Read the exact words of Councillor MacKenzie.This was the original post that got me in trouble in I asked -“…However, if this motion passes, and we opt not for the recordings, please note this would apply to the NEXT COUNCIL MEETING and not this one …”Councillor MacKenzie's response was:The motion will, in fact, be written to stop publishing them effective immediately. So the next meeting will not be published, if the motion passes.No meetings in between. Meaning the public would of had no clue it happened. Yeah but we are open and transparent. I got a code of conduct for sharing Council sessions wouldn't be recorded.For the record, the Act specifically states that to be in closed session, it has to be for land, legal or negotiations. Please tell me how a motion for public consumption be that, more over where and when this closed session meeting happened?Comments
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