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Hanwell councillor suspended for 3 months over accusations of spreading misinformation

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Hanwell councillor suspended for 3 months over accusations of spreading misinformation

Pat Septon accused of lying about the actions of Hanwell municipal staff and councillors

But Hanwell Coun. Pat Septon says his fellow councillors are using the municipality's code of conduct to silence him from publicly discussing how the community bordering Fredericton is run.

"They are weaponizing the code of conduct to try to control people's speech," said Septon.

At their regular meeting Wednesday evening, Hanwell councillors voted 4-2 in favour of suspending Septon for 90 days.

Coun. Darren MacKenzie brought the motion forward, and spoke at length during the meeting about how misinformation spread by Septon has caused councillors and municipal staff undue stress.

"A reasonable person would stop when local people are telling them they're doing something wrong, and reevaluate what they're doing, but not in this case. And this is the thing that infuriates me the most," MacKenzie said.

"It's one thing to spread misinformation about your council, but when things that you are saying have been explained to be incorrect many times, it's no longer just misinformation, it's outright lying, and this is something that can't be tolerated any longer."

People sit at a table. Hanwell Coun. Darren MacKenzie brought forward the motion to suspend Coun. Pat Septon. (Aidan Cox/CBC)

Septon was asked to be excused from the council chamber for the vote, and left the municipal office when the resolution was passed.

For the next 90 days, Septon will be barred from sitting at the council table, prohibited from participating as a councillor at events, and required to turn over his key to the municipal office.

MacKenzie said council's ability to suspend Septon comes from Bill 45, the Local Governance Act, which received royal assent June 16.

"Before that point it was kind of iffy," MacKenzie said during the meeting.

"We do have a legal opinion from our lawyer that it is OK, but again, I'm not a constitutional lawyer. I can only go by the advice I was given by people who know what they are talking about and I was told that it is fine."

It's unclear on the surface of the act whether that is the case. The new law says the local governance commission — which is yet to be formed — is the authority in charge of investigating alleged code of conduct breaches, and issuing suspensions where appropriate.

Problems go back to 2022: mayor

Conflict on council has been brewing since last fall, but came to a head in December, said Hanwell Mayor Dave Morrison.

He said some councillors and municipal staff made informal complaints that Septon breached the councillors' code of conduct.

"Accusing council [and] staff of falsifying documents and accusing staff of lying," said Morrison, describing what Septon allegedly did.

"A lot of accusations going on, and just stating things that were just not true."

A man sits at a table. Hanwell Mayor Dave Morrison said Septon's actions have pushed some councillors and municipal staff to consider resigning. (Aidan Cox/CBC)

He said 26 allegations were made against Septon, and an investigation by the municipal clerk deemed 19 to be founded.

That led to Septon being sanctioned, which included a reprimand, his remuneration being suspended for six months, and a requirement he apologize to the clerk and assistant clerk.

Morrison said despite those sanctions, Septon continued breaching the code of conduct, prompting the community to solicit an independent investigator, who also found Septon breached the code of conduct.

"And of course, Coun. Septon refuses to admit any wrongdoing," Morrison said.

"I've had staff say they were going to resign, and I've had councillors say they were going to resign because they basically said they didn't sign up for this."

Septon defends actions

Speaking after the meeting, Septon said the outcome wasn't a surprise to him.

He said there's a sentiment on council that members shouldn't discuss certain issues publicly.

"And that's not the way council should run. It's not the way I want to run. It's not the way I want to represent my community," he said.

Asked if he acknowledged whether some of what he said has been harmful to staff or councillors, Septon said some municipal staff have gone on stress leave.

"Make no mistake, it's stressful for all of us," he said.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


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Aidan Cox is a journalist for the CBC based in Fredericton. He can be reached at aidan.cox@cbc.ca and followed on Twitter @Aidan4jrn.

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27 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos
 I would like to know what the constitutional lawyers explained about the lack of a Constitution for New Brunswick Hence IMHO the Local Governance Act must be based on our federal one



David Amos
Duhhh???

"We do have a legal opinion from our lawyer that it is OK, but again, I'm not a constitutional lawyer. I can only go by the advice I was given by people who know what they are talking about and I was told that it is fine."
 
 
 
 
Dennis Atchison
... and this person was elected, remember, which means he represents the majority view of those who voted for him. So ... is the issue the suspended council person, or is it actually the people who voted him into office who hold the same values and views, or is it the some-odd seventy percent who chose not to vote?

 
G. Timothy Walton
Reply to Dennis Atchison
Or is it that the voters didn't see this side of him before voting day?

That's always a valid question with democracies.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Dennis Atchison
You know the wicked game nearly as well a I do Correct?
 
 
Clive Gibbons 
Reply toG. Timothy Walton
A lot are probably thinking this exact thing of our current provincial government. As soon as we were in a majority situation, the premier opened the blinds as to how he really feels about New Brunswickers.
 
 
G. Timothy Walton
Reply to Clive Gibbons 
Yep.

Majority governments pass a lot more bad legislation than minorities do.

 
 
 
Rhys Philbin
Where's the rest of the story ?

What exactly has he been accused of ?

 
Archara Goldehere
Reply to Rhys Philbin
Lying about the counsel it looks like and if he wants to work with them then he should stop working against them. IDK if anyone should be going around lying about you right-- It is right at the top
 

David Amos
Reply to Archara Goldehere
Perhaps you should read it again
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Rhys Philbin
Why not call him and ask him? 
 
 
 


Roosevelt Smith
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Samual Johnston
Reply to Roosevelt Smith
seems like a difficult situation --- reading the old minutes -- they had same issue before with a male counsellor verbally abusing a female counsellor and was 'ordered' to apologize but he refused. Seems like he just left or maybe was not reelected?
 
 
 
 
Doug kirby
Another day of NB politics drama


David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to Doug kirby
Welcome back to the circus
 
 
 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
What's the rest of the story?
 
 
Rhys Philbin
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Exactly.
 
 
Roosevelt Smith
Reply to Kyle Woodman
you tell us....
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to Kyle Woodman
details are on their web page as the meetings are recorded and posted of you want to listen it all ---
 
 
Derek James
Reply to Samual Johnston
butthere is a news article right here, that should include those small details ...
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to Derek James
could definitely be some more detail but there seems to be a lot that has gone on for a couple years at least..... seems to be he did/said x,y,z - councillors said it was against the 'rules; and told him to stop -- he would not stop -- council sought outside review which confirmed he was breaking rules -- council used rules to suspend him as punishment for not stopping.
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Samual Johnston
Yeah I read through the minutes a bit (time I will never get back). His behavior is definitely offside, but I was hoping for more controversy. I'm not sure why CBC didn't elaborate more, it's all public record. His facebook alone tells one side of the story.
 

David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Go Figure
 
 
 
 
Les Cooper
Oh the drama of the new age


David Amos
Reply to Les Cooper
Don't ya just love it?
 
 
 
 
Samual Johnston
This shows the good and the bad of non politicians getting into politics. The good is they some try to push the envelope a little and speak like we 'the general public' do and act the way we 'say' we would act if in power. Then there is the reality of the position - of acting within the rules, of being polite, of respecting others, of being a politician. Some people (most of us?) are not cut out for these positions. What do you do in. situation like this? While I may complain about politicians I could never be one.
 
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to Samual Johnston
You don't need to be a constitutional lawyer to interpret the Local Governance act, counselor Mackenzie.
 

Samual Johnston
Reply to Jos Allaire
maybe not to interpret it but to interpret it properly perhaps
 
 
David Amos
Reply to Jos Allaire
Yes he does


 

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  • Pat Septon - Hanwell Councillor at Large's Post


    It is official. Because of my conversations with NB Poli Podcast and or Cross Border Interviews with Chris BrownI have been suspended from Council. I have so very much to unpack, so much wrong, mis-information presented today. I have to go to court tomorrow to fight to get the information I requested on many things. Stuff I had requested since Nov 2022 and only now getting to see. But how this all started, and a note, the Deputy Mayors argument tonight was mis-remembered. However the code of conduct against me was "In Closed Session". Public recordings is all we have, and of course I shared that this would happen. Read the exact words of Councillor MacKenzie.
    This was the original post that got me in trouble in I asked -
    “…However, if this motion passes, and we opt not for the recordings, please note this would apply to the NEXT COUNCIL MEETING and not this one …”
    Councillor MacKenzie's response was:
    The motion will, in fact, be written to stop publishing them effective immediately. So the next meeting will not be published, if the motion passes.
    No meetings in between. Meaning the public would of had no clue it happened. Yeah but we are open and transparent. I got a code of conduct for sharing Council sessions wouldn't be recorded.
    For the record, the Act specifically states that to be in closed session, it has to be for land, legal or negotiations. Please tell me how a motion for public consumption be that, more over where and when this closed session meeting happened?

    Comments



  • Tracey J Boucher
    Not unexpected but very disappointing that they interpret law without a law degree. The legislation does not permit an elected official
    To be suspended by other elected officials. It is clear what permits relief from duties. It does not say they can do that and from my experience with policy consultation we are not permitted to interpret or add a caveat to the Act. If it is not written there an excuse.? I feel a reasonable expert legislation would likely lean against council. Slippery slope

  • Call Glen Savoy Pat. This is egregious

  • Author
    Pat Septon - Hanwell Councillor at Large
    NB Poli Podcast it was an entire night of gaslighting. I can go on and on. The mayor stated I share misinformation online. I dare anyone to ask for proof. Everything is and will never be deleted so it should be probable! Then why don’t they prove it instead of tropes.



  • NB Poli Podcast 's Post


    We have a bombshell of a podcast this week. We are deep diving into the charismatic Christian nationalists and their engagement with Premier Higgs. Brent will tell his story about being involved with similar groups as
    . #nbpoli listen here:

    Comments


  • David Raymond Amos
    Who are you?

  • Author
    NB Poli Podcast
    edit for pod: Émile Durkheim is a French sociologist, not an American criminologist. We had a few authors up that we were referencing and mixed them up. Apologies.




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