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The EX FED LIEbrano Jean-Claude D'Amours says bilingualism is a positive for New Brunswick YEA RIGHT

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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos 
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All these people know why I sued the Crown in 2015 and why my name was on the ballot again in this election

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-ex-fed-liebrano-jean-claude-damours.html






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MLAs urge broader discussion on divisive language issues

Liberals, PC, Green MLAs say bilingualism should be examined but not used to divide province's residents

CBC News· Posted: Oct 05, 2018 5:00 AM AT



133 Comments




David Amos 
David Amos
All these people know why I sued the Crown in 2015 and why my name was on the ballot again in this election


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos Not realy....









Buford Wilson 
Buford Wilson
OB is destroying NB.


Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Buford Wilson Yet you support the PC's? They wont do anything to rock the boat. Robert Gauvin will see to that.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Buffoon Wilson, supporting the wrong party... then again..
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David Amos
David Amos
@Tim Raworth "Robert Gauvin will see to that."

Robert Gauvin? He don't call and he don't write. Methinks he don't love me N'esy Pas?

e don't call and he don't write. Methinks he don't love me N'esy Pas?


David Amos
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David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "supporting the wrong party... then again."

Methinks you people should agree that there are lots of Buffoons within the CBC comment sections N'esy Pas?

Here is a good example you two should recall.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-blaine-higgs-job-affidavit-1.4821817

Remember while I was running against your buddy Ian Smyth in Fundy you and your buddy Martin were covering up for Gallant's BS about hiring Higgs? Well I never said a word in CBC about the Higgs versus Gallant crap but said just enough around Sussex. to see that Ian Smyth lost

Graham McCormack
Graham McCormack
@Buford Wilson No it isn't. Having to pay for two parallel systems is.










Gil Murray 
Gil Murray
Bilingualism as a concept is not causing the problem. There is no excuse for wasting 40+ years in failed implementation.. This has nothing to do with duality. If bilingualism were a success there would be no need to waste resources by administering the same program twice and people would be hired on skills and qualifications required to actually do the work.
Entrenched views are creating the divide because of fear on both sides and an elitism that has grown from the failed implementation. Those whose children have succeeded in learning French for whatever reason and those who have the questionable advantage of living in predominant English culture (TV, internet, etc) clearly are benefiting from the failed implementation. That is the divide.


Randy McNally
Randy McNally
@Gil Murray Yes 40 years was a great run for an experiment that has obviously failed the vast majority of New Brunswickers. Thanks to the University of Moncton, spineless politicians, and the media the only clear success has been the advancement of the French language, French culture, and individual francophone prosperity at the direct expense expense of the unilingual population French, English, and immigrant.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Randy McNally; this immigrant seems to be doing quite good, indeed!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/syrian-refugee-yasser-al-asmi-moncton-university-1.4724951

Tim Locke
Tim Locke
@Gil Murray

It would surely have been considered a success if upon implementation, the schools were set up to enure everyone graduating knew enough of both languages to get any job requiring both languages.

I do not think it is too late to fix this error but it will take time to see the results. Perhaps the province could help by offering free language classes for anyone who wants to learn.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@Tim Locke, this is where the failure lies, without a doubt.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you already know what I thin of your opinion N'esy Pas?

Fred Brewer
Fred Brewer
@Marguerite Deschamps
Oh Wow. One individual success story in 50 years. Surely that is worth the billions we have spent on OB.

David Amos
David Amos


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, Yup! And the feeling is mutual.


Jake Quinlan
Jake Quinlan
@Marguerite Deschamps The francophones don't want bilingual schools, too afraid of assimilation?? Or else wouldn't our wise politicians of yesteryear set this thing up as Tim Locke above suggested?


Luc Aubé
Luc Aubé
@Tim Locke. the free course has been offered by our Prime Minister but the Anglophone that voted for the CORservative and PANB had completed shot there ears off.








Gil Murray 
Dan Lee
Wow.....PA rep did not show up.......aint that a fact......oh but we are not againts the french


Tim Raworth
Tim Raworth
@Dan Lee The Libs, Cons And Greens are just putting on a show for English NB and a lot of people will fall for it. At the end of the day they wont change anything. Don't rock the boat. You can see on You Tube, a video from CBC political panel of Higgs being asked why they wont merge the two health care systems into on bilingual system and he said it could be done and probably should be done but they wont because of "political reasons" This is the kind of politicians we elect.


Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Dan Lee That would make the PA whipping boy of the next campaign coming to you real soon. a chance to acquire some much needed brown points from the 3 on 1 gang. The NDP was not there either, but then their day has come and gone so no points to score there. Mr. **** has deeply disappointed me in many ways since the election. The others I expected no less. they need those 47,000 vote for their next attempt. The more this becomes THE political focus the more I see hope for a PA government. Both linguistic communities will benefit on service where warranted.


stephen blunston
stephen blunston
@Tim Raworth this is the problem week politicians looking out for nothing but there bloated salaries benefits and pensions , it sure is not for the NB people

David Amos
David Amos
@Tim Raworth "This is the kind of politicians we elect."

Canada's self described "Natural Governing Party" claim we get the governments we deserve and Higgs and his cohorts will never oppose them for "political reasons"










Gil Murray 
Michael G. L. Geraldson
Fix the economy, give people some hope and a future and the rest will fix itself.


Randy McNally
Randy McNally
@Michael G. L. Geraldson But you just can't say "fix the economy" without saying how. Part of the problem is that people whose patience has expired on this official bilingualism/ duality business because of the enormous costs. are in direct opposition to the francophone elite who are saying that official bilingualism actually makes money for the province. (lacking details of course)

Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Michael G. L. Geraldson Too busy fighting over the false narratives and agendas of the few to work on the environment or real prosperity. Let's drive those workers and consumers of goods out of the province. No one wants to be part of a family always fighting among themselves.

Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Randy McNally Well , as they point out, TD would not be here. Wait we paid TD to come here. Frank knows a handout when he sees one.

Gil Murray
Gil Murray
@Michael G. L. Geraldson
Sorry but you are using a very simple statement as a solution to every issue in NB. I don't buy that. How do you fix an economy when young people are leaving and you are left with seniors requiring help? How do you expand competition when you have a single player monopolizing industry? How do you free up wealth for investment when you are taxing at unprecedented rates and those who truly benefit evade the system?

Dan Armitage
Dan Armitage
@Gil Murray All true Gil but we need to Strat don't we? Don't give up the province can move forward the election has shown we want real and good change.

David Amos
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr Please enjoy my letter to Franky and Bernie many moons ago

Page 16

https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right

Stephen Long
Stephen Long
@Gil Murray Absolutely. The tories and the libs both use bilingualism as an abstraction to keep us all fighting among ourselves so they can carry on giving away all our money to their corporate friends and dipping in their own corrupt hands into the pot whilst at the same time decimating this province. If bilingualism wasn't a thing, something else would be.










 Gil Murray 
Norman Albert Snr
How much are these bias policies costing the tax payers of NB regardless of language spoken? Champagne on a beer budget. For over 50 years we have been using this as a dividing stick but know one will come up with hard facts or the cost of doing everything twice.


Robert L. Brown
Robert L. Brown
@Norman Albert Snr the dividing stick was brought to us by the liberals more than 50 years ago

Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Robert L. Brown It primary use now is diversion by division. Let's buy some time and votes with language and S8888 the rest. "Oh look pandas"

David Amos
David Amos
@Robert L. Brown YUP









Gil Murray 
Edwin Kelley
All parties should be involved in this discussion. It seems as though close to 50,000 New Brunswickers are being falsely labeled as bigots and being ignored. This is why we have the current political situation. The big two parties have learned nothing from the last election. 8% of the population is listed as unilingual french and concentrated in a few areas , 30% are listed as primary french, and 70% listed as primary english yet there seems to be no compromise for the 30%, it's all or nothing. I haven't heard of anyone calling for someone's rights to be taken away,which seems to be fear mongering. Lets ignore the radicals on both sides of this debate and get on with trying to have a meaningful discussion. Everyone wants access to "The Best" healthcare and education in whatever language,duality is not providing that,it's only splitting the resources of a have not province and threatening lives with things like sub standard ambulance coverage. Teach conversational french to all english students and forget the french immersion,it's not working.


Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Edwin Kelley Time for a regional government not a bilingual government. When your first qualification to a position is the language you speak the only out come is division.
I spoke with a Federal employee who said he was the only one in his office who was bilingual and in 5 years had only been called on twice ,as Choice not necessity, to deal with a client. He would have better use for 4 other languages.

Natalie Pugh
Natalie Pugh
@Edwin Kelley Close to 50 000 is just the start and with all that has been happening since September 24 that number is growing.

David Amos
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David Amos
@Natalie Pugh Methinks the PANB was not wise to ignore the invite but methinks the other political parties just embarrassed themselves and October 23rd is still two weeks away N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Natalie Pugh Methinks you would have enjoyed my reply Hence it was blocked N'esy Pas?


Norman Albert Snr
FNorman Albert Snr
@Natalie Pugh Second lowest showing in NB history because people actually believed the propaganda that voting for other then the Lib/PC even showing up was a waste og time. Now they have proof of other possibilities. PA now has political credibility. Something to stand on beside the two corporate junkies.


John Price
John Price
@Edwin Kelley All parties were invited to this discussion (if you read the article), and the PANB didn't come - wonder why?

And judging by the tone of your post, your starting point is basically why do we need to worry about 8% or 30% for that matter - don't they understand we're the majority and we're being ignored? And then you wonder why people think you're anti-French? SMH

John Price
John Price
@Norman Albert Snr So, basically according to Norman Sr. here, all francophones who are in government jobs and are bilingual, probably lack all qualifications for being in said jobs. Again, you wonder why people don't COR ver. 2.0 in power?

John Price
John Price
@Natalie Pugh Haha - yup, just the start.... I'm sure you'll make lots of inroads in Edmundston, Tracadie, Bouctouche or St. John for that matter.... Haha.

John Price
John Price
@Norman Albert Snr They won 2 seats in the middle of the province where there are a majority of anglophones who feel left out - and you think that gives them credibility? SMH

Tim Astle
Tim Astle
@John Price I was curious about them not being involved since they've never turned down an opportunity before. Apparently they were only contacted through email and the request was lost in a mess of media inquiries since the election.











Gil Murray 
Norman Albert Snr
Two people divide by one childish and false claim. The tower of Babel comes to mind. Just another political foot ball to distract us from the real problems.
Saint John has the lowest incomes, highest poverty rate and the highest taxes in Canada and we are focused on language rights. Also the most beneficial corporate and industrial tax policies in the country.


David Amos
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr "Just another political foot ball to distract us from the real problems. "

YUP









Gil Murray 
Norman Albert Snr
CBC must be really disappointed this did not turn out to be a 3 on one tag team against PA. As I recall they did the same to COR by painting them with the "ONE POLICY" banner causing them to implode.


Marie Blythe
Marie Blythe
@Norman Albert Snr The PA is doing a good job of this by themselves with their lack of openness and willingness to discuss the issues. As mentioned, the PA was asked to join this panel and they did not respond.

David Amos
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr I am no fan of Austin and never was However methinks PANB should have stood up to their opponents and cleared the air in a PUBLIC fashion Trust that all the political animals know that they would not have to ask me twice to debate them N'esy Pas?



Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marie Blythe It would have been a gong show with everyone else yelling over each other to drown him out.

On the other hand it would have revealed the true nuts.

Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Marie Blythe everything Austin might have said would have been repeated out of context and painted PA as a one issue and bias collection of bigots and anti ???? what ever they could brand it as. better to avoid the gang up mentality and conflict as to confront the false narratives.
For those of us who believe no other proof is required. For those who do not NONE will do. There is a better way!!!

Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Marie Blythe If the English stand up for their rights they are branded BIGOTS or worse, but if the French demand more of their fair share of the pie they a considered cultural heroes. No one is giving answers on costs. Costs we cannot afford. Just answer the D** question and be prepared to justify your response.

Tim Astle
Tim Astle
@Marie Blythe I was curious about them not being involved since they've never turned down an opportunity before. Apparently they were only contacted through email and the request was lost in a mess of media inquiries since the election.



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Marie Blythe Exactly...well said









Gil Murray 
Craig O'Donnell
I didn't vote PA for my own reasons, but I understand there was nothing about ending bilingualism in their platform. Even the suggestion that bilingual services are not being delivered in the most efficient and cost effective matter in a province that simply can't afford waste is taken as an attack on francophones. Can any of you really and truthfully say there can't be improvements made? This province is more linguistically divided than ever. Perhaps it's just time to throw our hands in the air, give up, and form 2 distinct provinces out of 1 New Brunswick.


Tim Locke
Tim Locke
@Craig O'Donnell

Forming two provinces is not the solution.

Natalie Pugh
Natalie Pugh
@Tim Locke I would not be an option because there are too few francophones to be able to sustain their own and the lifestyle many have acquired. Tax dollar's from ALL NB citizens is needed to maintain such lifestyles and privilegs.

David Amos
David Amos
@Craig O'Donnell Methinks it has always been the liberal party driving a wedge between the folks of New Brunswick for their political benefit N'esy Pas?

Their words not mine

"D'Amours said bilingualism is a positive for New Brunswick, and misunderstanding of the Official Languages Act should be cleared up through open discussion — something that Cardy said the past Liberal government has avoided."


Luc Aubé
Luc Aubé
@Craig O'Donnell Here's an idea. Just by moving the borders. Use the Renous Highway and Route 126 down to Route 940. The North and East goes to Québec and South and West go down to Nova Scotia. As for Anglophone from Bathurst and Miramichi, you can start negotiating with the CAQ. On the way down to Nova Scotia, you can bring the NB Power and its debt. Anglophone (CORservative???), you are the one that block that sale to Hydro Quebec. This would have help the NB and NB Power debts.

Voilà Problem solved.

John Price
John Price
@Craig O'Donnell As long as the discussion doesn't start with the thought of having to remove a right from someone, I'm sure many people (including me) would be perfectly fine having a discussion on how bilingualism could be improved.

Luc Aubé
Luc Aubé
@John Price I agree to not remove rights. The only way is to ADD a second language which in the case would be FRENCH. The prime minister Gallant offered you anglophone FREE courses to do so. That starts with you Mr Higgs and Mr Austin. Show by examples like Mr Hatfield, Mr McKenna and other well respected party leaders did. Use this an advantage. It never to late to learn it.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Craig O'Donnell Sure, you can have everything south of Moncton.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Luc Aubé well said.










 Shelley Brown
Shelley Brown
CBC you should be ashamed of yourself for constantly spreading anti bilingualism propoganda. No party that ran was anti language (well maybe the Liberals were working againt uniligual persons) but definitely not PANB. Anyone can eead their platform. I dont understand how anyone can say Kris Austin that he stated that he wants to end bilingualism, it is the opposite! This smear campagn should be illegal. CBC needs to either stop publishing fake news or should see the inside of a court room for this slander. No one cares if anyone speaks anything! We need a prosperous NB. CBC YOU ARE CAUSING DIVIDE IN YOUR BIASED SLANDEROUS REPORTING


David Amos
David Amos
@Shelley Brown YUP

Stephen Long
Stephen Long
@Shelley Brown Totally agree. The propaganda the CBC is spewing sounds like something out of 1984 or East Germany. I don't trust New Brunswicker's to read this stuff with a critical eye unfortunately which is why they can get away with it.

John Price
John Price
@Shelley Brown A party who only talks about all the problems bilingualism has caused in the province for the last 4-6 years as their main talking point, in every press release, in every interview - and you're surprised people think they're anti-bilingualism? Get a grip.








 stephen blunston 
stephen blunston
yup I agree proud to be from NB and like bilingualism as a rule I do not agree with having to run 2 separate systems for it though this is a big waste taxpayer money. and I never heard anyplace in election anti bilingualism but a lot about ending duality running 2 separate systems . if we are all the same and all together not separated would make this province so much stronger not more money to help all


David Amos
David Amos
@stephen blunston I agree


Luc Aubé
Luc Aubé
@stephen blunston Look a little bit further than your nose and see WHY we have two separate systems. Bilingual system means ENGLISH system. The only way that a bilingual system will work is that you anglophone get out of there silly excuse and go learn FRENCH. Anglophone need to take French as a plus like European do.

Look at that, I can converse in English as in French. Kudos to me.






Gil Murray 
Mario Doucet
Young people are leaving the province in droves because they don't want to deal with the bilingualism issue. Equal opportunity no loner exists for the English.


reginald churchill
reginald churchill
@Mario Doucet ---very true

David Amos
David Amos
@reginald churchill YUP

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Mario Doucet
BS, there's no job opportunity in their field when/ if they've graduated from university or college.

Businesses want people with experience. No one wants to give young people the chance to gain experience, that's why they move. They don't come back when they compare salaries they've made elsewhere and what they would make here.


Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Rosco holt They don't come back when they compare salaries they've made elsewhere and what they would make here. That is true as well but you have to look at the high property taxes business must pay, the income taxes we all pay and the residential property taxes.

John Price
John Price
@Mario Doucet They're leaving the province because:

a) People are anti-everything (fracking, pipelines, selling NB power, etc.).
b) We have no industry here other than Irvings.
c) There are no jobs.

You don't think French people are leaving the province too for the same reasons as above?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mario Doucet If the only ambition of the young English population is to have one of the 2000 provincial public servant job, you have a bigger problem.



Gil Murray
Gil Murray
@Marc Martin Did you just say "2000" pps jobs?? Showing your ignorance of the public service again. Keep it up.








 Gil Murray 
cheryl wright
the only thing that is not dividing this province in language issues is PANB. cbc loves to run stories that show them as being anti-francophone, sanb loves to sling insults and all others wont play with them because of how they are potrayed not how they are. if you actually listen to mr Austin you would see that. instead you here the likes of mr melanson and the mayor of cap pele who just spew hatred and venomous words. I hope the next election mr Austin wins premiere and then we can truly see what this province can do when we stand together and not expect extras and special treatments on both sides


David Amos
David Amos
@cheryl wright "sanb loves to sling insults"

True


David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos Methinks a lot of folks can recall my war of words with a SANB spindoctor N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-and-francophone-groups-1.4840449



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@cheryl wright Fact PANB = CoR









 Gil Murray 
reginald churchill
But many Alliance supporters have formed this "us-versus-them mentality," Cardy said. talk about putting in someone else's mouth, typical politician . very insulting to all supporters of the peoples alliances


reginald churchill
reginald churchill
@reginald churchill -----please insert ''words'' after ''putting''

David Amos
David Amos
@reginald churchill Methinks every political animal in New Brunswick knows that I can tell some very interesting stories about Mr Cardy and his cohorts N'esy Pas?


Graham McCormack
Graham McCormack
@reginald churchill I've talked with Kris Austin and I believe what he says but there are some of their supporters who are anti-French.

But I would think you would find anti-French and anti-English supporters in all parties.








reginald churchill
Shawn McShane
In other news but not reported here: Michel Bastarache, the last New Brunswicker to represent the province on the country’s highest court, said in Ottawa that the People’s Alliance, now with three seats inside the provincial legislature is trying to abolish bilingualism. Michel Bastarache called on the feds not to hire unilingual speakers, even if they’re provided years of language training after being given a job.

That is your divider hammering home the true wedge in this place and Canada wide.

reginald churchill
reginald churchill
@Shawn McShane ----agreed

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald Churchill, I agree; but with Michel Bastarache. Why should my tax dollars fund their language training while on the job while others have to do their work when the success rate has been next to zero?


reginald churchill
reginald churchill
@Marguerite Deschamps ------why should my tax dollars fund the sanb

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald churchill, I am more than willing to fund language training outside the public work place, such as in the education curriculum or through adult training. Then when proficient enough in both official languages, they can apply for jobs designated as bilingual.

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marguerite Deschamps Really? So you agree that unilingual French speakers should not be hired and should be fired after they have the job and are learning English? Shouldn't it be the best candidate for the job with the best credentials? Otherwise we have people with the worst credentials/experience getting the job just because they can speak French and English. That narrows the IQ pool. You don't get the best and the brightest you get allooo/bonjour.

reginald churchill
reginald churchill
@Marguerite Deschamps ------I know there is a proficiency test for the English to become bilingual is there one for the French

David Amos
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David Amos
Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald Churchill; yes there is!


reginald churchill
reginald churchill
@Marguerite Deschamps -----well it doesn't seem to work very good . sometimes it's very hard to understand francophones in a bilingual position

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald Churchill, totally false. I heard them every day.

Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald Churchill; and they are sure way better than Blaine Higgs and le Crisse d'Austie de COR are in French!


Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marguerite Deschamps I couldn't understand the lady at the Shediac Alcool and she couldn't understand me. I was looking for Pimms number 1.

I even said Pimms numéro un she seemed mad at me!


David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "I am more than willing to fund language training outside the public work place"

Where do you liberals get all the money to write so many cheques?


David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane "In other news but not reported here:"

Whereas my reply was blocked methinks you should merely Google the following and figure out what I was trying to tell you N'esy Pas?

Michel Bastarache David Amos


Natalie Pugh
Natalie Pugh
@reginald churchill Best Answer I've heard since September 24!!

Graham McCormack
Graham McCormack
@Marguerite Deschamps said "But I have yet to meet a francophone who got a job who was not already bilingual."

Define bilingual.

Luc Aubé
Luc Aubé
@David Amos simple just need one cheque for one teacher. U de M has classes that can hold 250 person. This is not the point stop finding excuse and go learn french.

David Amos
David Amos
@Luc Aubé Naw all the politicians know that I am to busy suing the Crown for being illegally barred from parliamentary properties for political reasons FYI Everybody knows the barring notice is in one language only and was never published in the Royal Gazette.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Shawn McShane Michael is right about PANB.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin We have been waiting for you

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@reginald churchill Why should my tax dollar fund the jazz fesitval in Fredericton?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Shawn McShane French is a credential.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@reginald churchill yes there is.



Gil Murray
Gil Murray
@Marguerite Deschamps You, and another frequent poster here, could not be more mistaken. I was an HR consultant in one of the largest departments in government and we only tested anglophones










Shawn McShane
Jack Forester
Can anything save NB? Maybe...maybe not, but here is a McLeans article from 2016 that pretty much nutshells, and sums up what all is wrong here...and it's more than just language issues. The solutions to the problems we have here are matters up for debate, but this article (at least to me) is pretty much a to-do list we all need to work on, or else we are all going down the drain. Please check it out. https://www.macleans.ca/economy/can-anything-save-new-brunswick/


David Amos
David Amos
@Jack Forester I said my two bits worth about what you are concerned about on Rogers TV (The own Macleans too) last month during this election but CBC failed to report it as usual







  
Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
Why do you ultra right wing conservatives and anti-French always denigrate CBS news? It gives you a free forum in order to spread all your misinformation.


Marguerite Deschamps
Marguerite Deschamps
Have a good day!

David Amos
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "Why do you ultra right wing conservatives and anti-French always denigrate CBS news?"

Methinks the Yankees in CBS news don't care about us I have no doubt whatsoever they believe New Brunswick is just another town in New Jersey or Georgia N'esy Pas?

 
Billy Hachey
Billy Hachey
@Marguerite Deschamps Hello Pot - meet kettle


David Amos
David Amos 
@Billy Hachey At least the Kettle knows how to read in French N'esy Pas?

The former president of the New Brunswick Acadian Society may end up taking a run at provincial politics after-all.

Earlier this month the New Brunswick Liberal party refused Kevin Arseneau's candidacy for the riding of Kent North.

Since then the Acadie-Nouvelle Reports the Progressive Conservatives, Green Party, and NDP have all requested meetings with the Rogersville Farmer.

Arseneau says dozens of calls have been coming in from those offering him encouragement and funding.

Arseneau expects an announcement concerning his political future will be made in the next few weeks.

(with files from the Acadie-Nouvelle)


David Amos
David Amos
@Billy Hachey Methinks after listening to his double talk today nobody should be surprised if Kevin Arseneau becomes the next Speaker. That way he won't be allowed to talk politics anymore. The liberals helped the Conservatives do it when they replaced Bev Harrison with Tanker Malley years ago but it backfired. Perhaps the Liberal/NDP/Conservative lawyer Lamrock has learned something since then N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bev-harrison-speaker-new-brunswick-legislature-1.4846333

"So speakers are in a pressure cooker, because they keep their party affiliation but they're technically neutral."

For all the headaches, there are incentives that come along with the post.

An extra $52,614 is added on top of the MLA salary, along with an extra few thousand in allowances. And the speaker can choose to drive a government car".

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/liberal-opposition-aims-to-sink-tanker-1.606614

"The opposition Liberals have introduced a non-confidence motion aimed at firing the Speaker of the New Brunswick legislature.

Malley quit the Tories in February to sit as an Independent, but then rejoined the party two weeks after being named Speaker, and one week after he cast the tie-breaking vote on the government's budget.

Liberal House Leader Kelly Lamrock said Malley's decision to go back to the Progressive Conservatives raises the possibility that the Speaker is trading his tie-breaking vote for government cash.

"When somebody assumes that job [of Speaker] and all the independence, and yes, the salary and the perks that come with it, they're supposed to move beyond the scope of influence. That's how it was supposed to work," Lamrock said."

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-and-francophone-groups-1.4840449









Bob Smith
Bob Smith
The paramedic issue is one where common sense needs to apply over language politics. I don't care whether a person lives in Tracadie, Riverview, or anywhere else..if a person requires an ambulance for an urgent health matter, he or she needs that care first, not sympathy afterwards because politicians demand the paramedics need to be bilingual. We have tech today that can bridge the language gap..use it and set aside the language wars.


David Amos
David Amos
@Bob Smith I agree


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bob Smith common sense would be to have at least one per ambulance that is bilingual.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin How do you Quebecers define common sense?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos Assuming im from Quebec because im French...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Nope because you are not familiar with New Brunswick and what you posted earlier about where your kin live.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos Your assuming again, i have 6 generation to back me up what about you?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin One Forefather was Daniel Keith (buried in Fundy) was a Kings Ranger in 1776 and Adam Amos (buried near Amos Point) took on the Crown over taxation and politicking in 1798


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin In nutshell around Southern New Brunswick almost everybody knows who I am and nobody has heard of you.



Bob Smith
Bob Smith
@Marc Martin Last time I checked, medication and instruments used to keep a person alive have no language needed. If a person was counting on emergency care to stay alive, no one should EVER have the power to say "No, sorry. No bilingual paramedics on duty right now. Please stay alive until we can get one."








Bob Smith
 Jeff LeBlanc
Where's all the Marc Martin posts? This thread would be right up his alley.


David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc Methinks he knows that I am waiting to pounce N'esy Pas?

Jeff LeBlanc
Jeff LeBlanc
@David Amos careful he might take your post and paste it and point out that you are wrong like he always does lol

David Amos
David Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc A little Deja Vu for you Just because I made no comments it does not follow that I did not read it

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-blaine-higgs-job-affidavit-1.4821817



David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos FYI I ran against the liberal Ian Smyth during this election. I too heard the gossip about Higgs and Gallant possibly joining forces long ago. I nearly died laughing when I saw the BS about it during the debates. Gallant should have just admitted it out of the gate and made Higgs look like the dummy for not joining him. Now neither of them look credible.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jeff LeBlanc I just saw it...im here :)

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Way ahead of you





 Bob Smith 
brenda bryanton
One thing has been made very clear in the last couple of weeks. The SANB dictates to so called people's parties in this province. NB is run by a dictatorship of the few.
To have a petition signed by RED parties votes of the northern areas in NB, to the PC's to "WARN" them not engage in any discussion with the PANB. No one called these fanatics by their true name: Bigots. Yes, that is what they are.
Wow, Pandora's box is wide open and the bigots are overflowing.


David Amos
David Amos
@brenda bryanton "NB is run by a dictatorship of the few. "

BINGO


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@brenda bryanton Dont be so bad about your kind.

David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Marc Martin How can you talk of common sense when you don't make sense?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos Saying that knows he will never get elected is still trying after 30 years...


David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Marc Martin I see CBC is editing my comments for your benefit N'esy Pas?






John Price
John Price
One only has to look at the comment section of any CBC article remotely relating to language, and see all the COR ver. 2.0 (the new & improved party) supporters comments to understand why people are not in support of such a party. Squawk and squawk for 5-6 years about all the ills bilingualism (or new and improved "duality") is causing, and then be surprised that people think you're against language rights....how shocking!


David Amos
David Amos 
@John Price Methinks the liberals used the COR versus PANB in an effort to split the right wing vote but it backfired bigtime and divided the province on French versus English lines. The desperate politicians are still blaming the PANB for the animosity that both the Liberals and the Conservatives provoked and promoted during the election. Well most folks ain't dumb and they voted 6 other party members to take a seat the house. Now the politicians are trying to make a deal with the Greens yet have no idea what to do with the PANB which is causing the electorate to be even more disgusted. This is all rather obvious byway of the comments that CBC is allowing to be published N'esy Pas?







John Price
Allan J Whitney
Just about everybody has a voice activated translation tool in their phone.


David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Allan J Whitney Shhh thats supposed to be a secret



David Amos
Content disabled.
David Amos
@David Amos why on earth would CBC block that comment?








https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/grenier-nb-advance-polls-1.4850648


N.B. Liberals began election day with a head start — then they lost it

Liberals led after 2 days of advance voting before losing key seats on election day




Nicolas Krinis
Alex Munter
Another liberal government takes a fall.

Scheer is the next PM even though the guy is invisible, he’s better than what we have now


David Amos
David Amos
@Alex Munter "Scheer is the next PM"

I would not bet the farm on it if I were you.

Methinks Scheer's old buddy Maxime is far from invisible N'esy Pas?







https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-and-francophone-groups-1.4840449


Kris Austin defends himself, as Acadian voices against People's Alliance multiply

Language rights groups suspicious of Austin's 'common sense' approach, but Austin says they misunderstand



Gabrielle Fahmy· CBC News· Posted: Sep 27, 2018 10:36 AM AT

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David Amos 
David Amos
Perhaps the liberals will explain this file someday soon

https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER


etc etc etc

 https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/bob-rae-says-minority-rule-is-all-about.html






MLAs urge broader discussion on divisive language issues

Liberals, PC, Green MLAs say bilingualism should be examined but not used to divide province's residents


The Political Panel Podcast returns for its first episode following the Sept. 24 election. (CBC)


Listen to the full CBC New Brunswick Political Panel podcast by downloading from the CBC Podcast page or subscribing to the podcast in iTunes.


A broad but even-handed discussion of bilingualism in New Brunswick is needed to address the persistently divisive topic of language, according to MLAs from three of the four parties represented in the legislative assembly.

The issue bubbled up again during the provincial election campaign with the rise of the People's Alliance, a party that won its first three seats and wants to restructure bilingualism and duality legislation.
Alliance officials say the controversial platform plank is based on fiscal responsibility, but rhetoric used by many of its supporters and election candidates suggests anti-francophone sentiments are present in the party's base.

That's drawn criticism from other parties and deep concern among New Brunswickers, especially in the francophone community. It's one of the main reasons the Liberals and Progressive Conservatives, two parties clamouring for support to form government, are not interested in dealing with the Alliance.


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The CBC New Brunswick Political Panel is back with the first podcast since the minority government was elected on Sept. 24. CBC host Terry Seguin interviews Liberal Jean-Claude D'Amour, PC Dominic Cardy and Green Kevin Arsenault to discuss the election, life in a minority government and the uncertainty surrounding the next government 40:53

CBC New Brunswick's Political Panel Podcast examined why the major parties are distancing themselves from the People's Alliance, and the panellists, a trio of newly elected MLAs for the Liberal, PC and Green parties, all suggested the Alliance's stance on language issues is the primary reason.

"It's understandable," said Dominic Cardy, the PC candidate elected in Fredericton West-Hanwell.


Newly elected Progressive Conservative MLA Dominic Cardy says it's understandable that there's pushback against the People's Alliance, considering some of the views on language held by its members and supporters. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

He said there should be discussion about the delivery of bilingualism and its effectiveness for all citizens — in the same way that health care and education are debated — and in a way that doesn't trample on linguistic rights.

But many Alliance supporters have formed this "us-versus-them mentality," Cardy said
The People's Alliance was asked to join the panel but did not send a representative.

Cardy said he encountered frustration on the campaign trail, remembering one man who couldn't get a job in the laundry at the Dr. Everett Chalmers Hospital. He also cited poor French immersion scores and said structural improvements can be made in the system.

J.C. D'Amours, a former MP and now he MLA for Edmundston-Madawaska Centre, said frustration with the system isn't a one-way street, and francophones miss out on jobs because they are unilingual.
"It's happening everywhere," he said.

D'Amours said bilingualism is a positive for New Brunswick, and misunderstanding of the Official Languages Act should be cleared up through open discussion — something that Cardy said the past Liberal government has avoided.


Green MLA Kevin Arseneau said it doesn't make sense to blame bilingualism for the province's economic woes. (Tori Weldon/CBC)

Kevin Arseneau, elected for the Green Party in Kent North, said a discussion can't begin with one side calling for the rights of others to be taken away.

He said many rural New Brunswickers have been abandoned by government, and jobs are scarce in regions in dire need of economic help, but pointing the finger at bilingualism as the culprit "doesn't make sense."

Cardy said an understanding needs to be reached so the province can work in concert to fix the real problem facing New Brunswick: provincial finances.

"We've got to move past this cultural divide to unite the province around a common message from what we want from our government so that we can have these discussions in five, 10, 15 years' time," he said.






https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-blaine-higgs-election-1.4845121



'I have a duty': Brian Gallant won't try for People's Alliance deal

Premier says he's 'not going to work with just anybody' to stay in power


New Brunswick Liberal Leader Brian Gallant says voters want government to listen to different perspectives, but supporters of the People's Alliance go against Liberal principles. (James West/THE CANADIAN PRESS)

It's been one week since the New Brunswick election, and the province still doesn't know what the next government will look like.

But one matter remains pretty clear.

Liberal Premier Brian Gallant, who got fewer seats than the Progressive Conservatives, will not enter into a formal agreement with the People's Alliance, a decision that could throw a wrench into his party winning a confidence vote in the house.

"I think it is more honourable to say, 'Look I'm not going to work with just anybody to form a government and to stay in power,'" he said.

"I have a duty and a responsibility, in my opinion, to see if I can gain the confidence of the house by also ensuring we're respecting our fundamental values."

Premier Brian Gallant and PC Leader Blaine Higgs have been wrangling over who will govern New Brunswick since the PCs won 22 seats to the Liberals' 21 last Monday in a legislature that requires 25 for a majority.



Information Morning - Fredericton
Premier Brian Gallant



 Host Terry Seguin speaks with Premier Brian Gallant about his quest to continue to govern the province in a minority situtation. 17:00


The People's Alliance and Green Party each won three seats.

Gallant is going after the Green Party for support, and the People's Alliance has said it would support the PCs on a bill-by-bill basis if PC Leader Blaine Higgs is given the chance to govern. Higgs has said he doesn't want to make deals with any party if he eventually becomes premier.

Gallant described Monday's election as a "rude awakening" for the PCs and Liberals, and voters sent a message to government that it has to consider different perspectives and do a better job at listening to the challenges families are facing across the province.

"If winning an election means that you have somebody who is going to form government, no one did," Gallant said during an interview with Information Morning Fredericton. 
"No one was given a mandate to govern the province."

People's Alliance partnership a no go

 


Kris Austin, whose People's Alliance won three seats in the election, has said he'll support the Progressive Conservatives on a bill-by-bill basis. (CBC)

Despite the message that he thinks voters sent about considering other views, Gallant said he doesn't share "fundamental values" with the People's Alliance so won't enter an agreement to get its support.

During the election, People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin called for a merger of francophone and anglophone health authorities, an end to language duality in school busing, and the elimination of the official languages commissioner.



CBC News
Brian Gallant on party alliances and forming government

 Brian Gallant says he doubts the alleged deal between the Progressive Conservatives and People's Alliance has the support of the Conservative caucus, and says his party will not compromise on principles to stay in power. 0:49


His party also wants to eliminate bilingual requirements for public service jobs in regions where there's no demand —something Austin said last Wednesday he would not compromise on, citing ambulance wait times in rural areas.

Gallant suggested the Liberals could respond to some of the concerns of Alliance supporters without sacrificing Liberal principles.

"People voted for them because they and their families face challenges," Gallant said. "We should not be distracted by our disagreement on what has caused those challenges.

"We should focus on helping the families that are struggling to get ahead to overcome the very real challenges before them."

Going green


By process of elimination, Gallant said, the Liberals are willing to work with the Green Party in a more formal way because the two parties have more in common. Gallant said he feels the Greens feel the same way about Liberals, who can probably come up with a program that is "progressive."


Green Party Leader David Coon plans to meet with Brian Gallant and Blaine Higgs separately this week. 

"There are items within our two platforms that match perfectly," he said. "There are items within our two platforms that the principles are the same, but the mechanisms might be different. There are some that are different."

Green Party Leader David Coon has spoken with both Higgs and Gallant to discuss the election results and plans to meet with both party leaders this week.

Meanwhile, the legislature is expected to open on Oct. 23 at the latest, and the Liberals will find out of they have received the confidence of the house.



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No party has a majority. So what happens next?

 New Brunswickers have elected the first legislature since 1920 where no party has a majority. What happens next?! 2:14


"If we do, then we will do the best that we can to govern, listening to the people's message on election night that we need to work with other parties and consider different perspectives," he said.

New Brunswick hasn't had a minority government since the 1920s, but Gallant suggested New Brunswickers could take solace in the fact challenging configurations in the legislature have occurred in other parts of the country, and the party with the most seats hasn't always been the one to govern.

After the most recent B.C. election, the Greens took their three seats and sided with the NDP in order to have a one-seat advantage over the Liberals.

"I think I have a responsibility to try and keep a progressive government here in the province, and if that's not the case I will certainly accept that," Gallant said.
With files from Information Morning Fredericton




https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/francophones-election-people-s-alliance-1.4838221



Francophones concerned about rise in People's Alliance support

'It doesn't feel like New Brunswick. It doesn't feel like Canada at all'


A perceived increase in anti-French sentiment has some young francophones, like Sebastien Cyr of Edmundston, wondering what place they have in New Brunswick's future. (Jennifer Sweet/CBC)

Some francophone New Brunswickers are feeling uneasy about the provincial election results.

Three candidates from the People's Alliance of New Brunswick party have been elected — in Fredericton-Grand Lake, Fredericton-York and Miramichi.

The People's Alliance is in favour of things like ending duality for school busing, loosening bilingual requirements for paramedics, and eliminating the office of the commissioner of official languages.
Some say the increase in support for the party represents a rise in anti-French sentiment.

Sebastien Cyr is a student at University of Moncton's Edmundston campus.

He said he was made to feel like an unwelcome stranger during a recent trip to the provincial capital.
"I've been to Fredericton last week," Cyr said.

"I've been to Winners to shop for my clothes. And I was just talking to one of my friends. And an old lady came to me and touched my elbows and she said, 'Hey, here we speak only English. We don't speak French.' I was like, 'Wow, OK.'

"I don't know. I don't know where we're going ... I don't know at all.

"It's not like home. It doesn't feel like New Brunswick. It doesn't feel like Canada at all."


The newly elected People's Alliance MLA for Miramichi, Michelle Conroy, said her party wants to bring bilingualism 'back to where it's meant to be.' (Radio-Canada)
Chantal Martin of Edmundston said she worries the province is becoming increasingly divided along language lines.

Virtually all of the predominantly francophone ridings voted Liberal or Green, while predominantly anglophone ridings voted Tory or People's Alliance.
"It sure feels like the French voted for a Liberal government and the English the opposite. And it's a little bit frightening because we are afraid that if the Conservative government makes an alliance with the Alliance party, well, it's not going to be good for the French people," said Martin.

The newly elected People's Alliance MLA for Miramichi, Michelle Conroy, said her party is not against any culture but suggested language rights have gone too far.

"It's about bringing bilingualism back to where it's meant to be and where we started to. It's meant to be as a bilingual province."
You can only stretch the social fabric so much ... sometime it tears.- Ali Chiasson , executive director, Acadian Society of New Brunswick
The prospect of any reduction in French-language services is unacceptable to the Acadian Society of New Brunswick.

"Official bilingualism was the consolation prize during the high tension of the late '60s," said Ali Chiasson, the group's executive director.

"It's a social contract, and this has the musings of going back to a very grey time … you can only stretch the social fabric so much … sometime it tears," he said.



N.B. Liberals began election day with a head start — then they lost it

Liberals led after 2 days of advance voting before losing key seats on election day


After two days of advance voting, Premier Brian Gallant's Liberals held a two-seat edge over the PCs. By election day, they were behind by one. (James West/THE CANADIAN PRESS)


Brian Gallant's Liberals started election day with a head start when New Brunswickers headed to the polls on Sept. 24. His party had won the most votes and was leading in the most seats after two days of advance voting had completed.

But by the end of election day, inroads made by the Greens — and to a lesser extent the People's Alliance and New Democrats — turned his two-seat edge into a one-seat deficit.

According to data published by Elections New Brunswick and analyzed by CBC News, the Liberals took 41.1 per cent of ballots cast in the advance voting that occurred on Sept. 15 and 17, compared with 33.4 per cent for the Progressive Conservatives under Blaine Higgs, 11.1 per cent for the People's Alliance, 9.6 per cent for the Greens and 4.2 per cent for the New Democrats.

This translated into the Liberals ending the two days of advance voting with a lead in 24 seats, one short of the 25 needed to form a majority government. The PCs led in 22 seats, the People's Alliance in two and the Greens in just one — that of leader David Coon.

The Liberals also won the most votes cast on election day, but their share of that vote fell by 4.3 points to 36.8 per cent. The PCs took 31.5 per cent of the votes cast on Sept. 24, representing a drop of 1.9 points.

The three smaller parties all took more of the votes cast on election day than they did in the advance polls, with Kris Austin's People's Alliance taking 13 per cent, the Greens 12.6 per cent and the New Democrats 5.3 per cent.

Both the People's Alliance and the NDP saw modest increases in their popular vote share — 1.9 and 1.1 points, respectively. The Greens, however, jumped three points.

That made the difference in Memramcook-Tantramar and Kent North. The Greens trailed the Liberals in both ridings in the advance voting, but won enough of the vote on election day to move ahead and win the seats.

The Liberals also lost Riverview and Oromocto-Lincoln-Fredericton to the PCs on Sept. 24, after starting the day with the lead.

Saint John-Harbour, however, flipped from the PCs to the Liberals on election day.

Strong results in the advance voting saved the PCs in two ridings — Shippagan-Lamèque-Miscou and in Southwest Miramichi-Bay du Vin. The Liberals won more votes in the former and the People's Alliance in the latter on election day, but the lead the PCs built in the advance voting was wide enough to keep them ahead when the counting was over.

Those victories ensured that Higgs came out of the night with one more seat than Gallant.

How it may have happened


That wasn't the case in Fredericton-York, however. The People's Alliance won enough votes on election day to erase the lead the PCs had there in the advance polls.

A number of factors could have contributed to the shift in the results between the advance polls and election day.

Parties put a lot of effort into getting their supporters to cast their ballots early in order to lock those votes in. The Liberals and PCs would have had more resources to do that than either the People's Alliance or Greens.

Public opinion polls also suggested that the two smaller parties had made significant gains in support over the last week of the campaign, while the Liberals and PCs fell back.

And voters who were on the fence between the older parties and the two upstarts might have been waiting until election day to finally make up their mind.

Different pattern than in 2014


Some of the trends between the advance polls and election day voting were the same as in 2014's provincial election.

The Liberals won 46.5 per cent of the vote in the advance polls that year before their vote dropped to 41.9 per cent on election day. The Greens increased their vote share by 2.7 points to 7.1 per cent on election day in 2014, while the New Democrats increased theirs by 1.6 points to 13.3 per cent.

But the PCs and People's Alliance went in different directions on election day in 2014. The PCs saw their support increase by 0.5 percentage points to 34.7 per cent, while the People's Alliance vote fell by 0.3 points to 2.1 per cent.

This means the voting patterns identified in 2018 were in some degree unique to this campaign.
And with such a close result, those patterns suggest the last days of the campaign might have made all the difference.

About the Author

 


Éric Grenier
Politics and polls
Éric Grenier is a senior writer and the CBC's polls analyst. He was the founder of ThreeHundredEight.com and has written for The Globe and Mail, Huffington Post Canada, The Hill Times, Le Devoir, and L’actualité.





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