Trudeau picks former governor general David Johnston to probe election meddling claims
Johnston was appointed governor general by then-Prime Minister Stephen Harper
Trudeau said last week that he would name an "eminent" and independent person as a special rapporteur on election interference. He said the special rapporteur "will have a wide mandate and make expert recommendations on combating interference and strengthening our democracy."
Johnston was appointed governor general in 2010 by then-Prime Minister Stephen Harper. He held that role until 2017.
Johnston is currently the head of the independent Leaders' Debates Commission an independent body that oversees leaders' debates during federal election campaigns. He will step down from that role to act as the new rapporteur, according to a news release from the Prime Minister's Office [PMO].
"David Johnston brings integrity and a wealth of experience and skills, and I am confident that he will conduct an impartial review to ensure all necessary steps are being taken to keep our democracy safe and uphold and strengthen confidence in it," Trudeau said in a media statement Wednesday.
WATCH | David Johnston is 'unimpeachable,' says minister
Opposition pushing for inquiry
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh have been pushing for a public inquiry on foreign election interference.
Trudeau said the rapporteur could recommend a formal inquiry and that he would abide by that recommendation.
Johnston played a similar role in the past. In 2007, Harper picked the then-law professor to draft the terms of reference for what would become the Oliphant Commission, which probed former prime minister Brian Mulroney's business dealings with German-Canadian businessman Karlheinz Schreiber.
The PMO statement said that all parties were consulted on Johnston's appointment, but it doesn't say to what extent.
WATCH | NDP welcomes Johnston appointment but still wants a public inquiry
NDP MP Rachel Blaney told CBC News Network's Power & Politics she is "content" with the decision to appoint Johnston — but the party still wants to see a public inquiry.
"Canadians need a sense of trust. They need to know their institutions work for them," she told host David Cochrane, adding that Johnston's work and recommendations need to be transparent.
"I think that Mr. Johnston is going to have to be held to a high account. Canadians are watching this very carefully."
Reacting to Johnston's appointment, Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet issued a statement repeating his own call for a public inquiry.
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre speaks during an announcement and news conference, in New Westminster, B.C., on Tuesday, March 14, 2023. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)
Prior to Wednesday's announcement, Poilievre cast doubt on the claim that the rapporteur would be independent.
"[Trudeau] could pick someone independent but he won't," Poilievre told reporters last week.
Poilievre said last week that his party will continue to push for a public inquiry into recent media reports that claim China took steps to ensure a minority Liberal government was returned in 2021 and that certain Conservative candidates were defeated.
Other reporting alleged intelligence officials warned Trudeau that China's campaign of interference included funding a "clandestine network of at least 11 federal candidates running in the 2019 election."
A panel of public servants tasked with monitoring election incidents reported that it did not detect foreign interference that threatened Canada's ability to hold free and fair elections in either 2019 or 2021. The panel did say there were attempts to interfere in both campaigns, according to reports highlighting its work.
But Conservatives called into question the most recent report — written by former public servant Morris Rosenberg — over the author's past affiliations.
From 2014 to 2018. Rosenberg served as CEO of the Trudeau Foundation, which funds and promote academic and public interest research.
Rosenberg's tenure was marked by controversy when it was revealed that Zhang Bin, an adviser to the Chinese government, attended a private fundraising dinner with Prime Minister Trudeau and donated thousands of dollars to the charity that bears his father's name. The foundation recently returned the donation.
Rosenberg's report recommended that the election monitoring panel's scope be expanded to include the periods leading up to election campaigns.
Tory deputy leader questions Johnston appointment
On Wednesday, Conservative Deputy Leader Melissa Lantsman questioned the need for a special rapporteur and pointed to Johnston's own affiliation with the Trudeau Foundation. The organization lists Johnston — who has worked at a number of Canadian universities — as a member.
"Maybe it would be best to find someone not associated with [the foundation]?" she tweeted. "Or, just call a public inquiry."
Wednesday's news release said that Johnston's mandate hasn't been set yet. Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino was asked on Power & Politics if Johnston's mandate would allow him to look beyond the campaign periods themselves.
"He will have a sufficiently wide and flexible mandate," he said. "He will have the kind of robust access that he needs to classified information."
Mendicino was also pressed to say how soon Johnston will put forward his recommendations. The minister didn't offer any specifics but did say Johnston's work is "urgent."
I'm still not happy with the filibuster or the choice of using a rapporteur in general, but I have no criticisms of this individual.
Naming a person and not allowing him to see everything is wrong.
Point is will there be any restrictions on what he can see.
We have seen this before with the liberals........only allow so much to be seen.
His report will also be limited to future interference issues.
The past chief electoral officer is calling for a full public inquiry.
A secret process with the mandate being...secret and then reporting to the PM
Trudeau snubs Munk, Maclean's/Citytv debates but will attend commission debates
Liberal leader willing to do TVA debate if parties can agree on date
The two debates that Trudeau has committed to attending are being organized by the Leaders' Debates Commission, which was established after the last election and is led by former governor general David Johnston.
"The commission was established after the last election where the governing party tried to game the system and make sure the fewest number of Canadians engaged in the debates. We think that's wrong," Daniel Lauzon, the Liberals' director of communications and policy for the campaign, said in a statement.
"The commission debates will be widely distributed on television, radio, digital and social streaming platforms and reach the largest possible audience."
The Liberals also have given a provisional yes to Quebec-based TVA to participate in a third debate if all parties can agree on a date. TVA is the only major Canadian network not included in the commission and commands the largest television audiences in Quebec.
- CBC News.
- Radio-Canada.
- Global News.
- CTV News.
- The Toronto Star and the Torstar chain.
- HuffPost Canada.
- HuffPost Quebec.
- La Presse.
- Le Devoir.
- L'Actualité.
While the Liberals are willing to do the TVA debate this time, a spokesperson says the party is trying to convince the broadcaster to participate in future commission debates.
'A formidable debater'
The decision means that Trudeau will not be taking part in the Munk Debates on foreign policy, set for Oct. 1 — a debate Trudeau did take part in during the 2015 election.It also means the prime minister will not participate in the Maclean's/Citytv leaders debate scheduled to take place September 12.
So far, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Green Party Leader Elizabeth May have all agreed to participate in the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates.
A spokesperson for the Conservative Party said the debates are about Canadians, not the leaders, and Scheer would be attending all election debates.
"We know Justin Trudeau is a formidable debater, as he proved in the last election. The only reason he would have for not wanting to attend all the debates is that he's afraid to defend his record," Brock Harrison said in a statement.
Harper instead agreed to participate in the Maclean's/Citytv debate and the Globe and Mail debate, on top of the French language consortium debate, TVAs' debate and the bilingual Munk debate on foreign policy.
The opposition at the time criticized Harper's decision to snub the English language consortium debate in favour of smaller debates, some of which were only streamed online, as a move that prevented the largest possible audience from viewing the exchanges between party leaders.
Trudeau was keen to participate in multiple debates in 2015 — an election that saw the longest campaign period in modern Canadian history. But Trudeau's critics now argue that he is cherry-picking debates for political reasons.
In the last election he was the third-party leader and had much to gain from engaging with other leaders at every opportunity. But as prime minister, Trudeau exposes himself to greater political risk by agreeing to additional debates.
"We're disappointed. Canadians deserve better. This is not the new politics Mr. Trudeau promised," NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said in a statement.
"It's hard to know which questions Mr. Trudeau didn't want to be accountable to. Why did you buy a pipeline? Why did you give the Weston family $12 million for fridges, but yet can't find the money for a Pharmacare program? Why do you care more about helping your wealthy friends than hard-working families?"
"I'm not surprised he doesn't want to answer these questions because he wouldn't answer me when I asked him in Parliament. But he should answer to Canadians."
Green Party Leader Elizabeth May said she has mixed feelings.
May said she supports the purpose of the debate commission since she had been left off the stage in past years.
"Debates are a constant source of backroom dealing and anti-democratic collusion," she told CBC.
However, May said, she would rather see more debates than fewer, and called Trudeau's decision to skip out on the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates a "shame."
The Liberals say Trudeau's refusal to do more than three debates is about logistics. The election hasn't officially started but it will be a more conventional five or six-week campaign, not the marathon writ period of 2015. Each debate takes several days of preparation and limits the campaign's ability to travel away from the debate sites — which are exclusively in Ontario and Quebec.
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Rick Ward
JT wants to control the narrative....what a better way to that than avoiding an environment wheras he could be asked some pointed questions that he is unable to answer on the spot.....surprised he is not demanding a list of the questions in advance so he can "study" what the response should be........the man is not a quick thinker on his feet for sure
David Amos
Larry Porter
Where is the PPC they have a full slate of candidates. Why is the Bloc included? They are not a national party!! Has nobody got the gonads to throw them out? Lets hear from everybody not the chosen ones!!
David Amos
Rick Ward
Plucky Chicken wants to be in control of the narrative. Drunk on their own arrogance recently scribed a CBC reporter in reference to the current regime in Ottawa.
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Rick Ward
Reply to @David Amos: methink u right dave....but u think it will have any impact?
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Donald Craig
"Methinks.......N'esy Pas"..... theres a bubble over flowing with tears.
David Amos
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Reply to @donald craig: Methinks you should quit laughing and starting reading all my comments N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Oh My My Did I strike another nerve?
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: is that your intention? for that to happen you would first need to find an iota of significance. . you have none.
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David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Find my blog and you can read my reply
Donald Craig
Liberal in a bubble...."methinks"....lolol.
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks a lot of folks would agree that I should ask if you bother to read anything and think about it before you offer your two bits worth N'esy Pas?
Larry Porter
Reply to @David Amos: Me thinks you over stayed you day pass from the home!! N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: I will when you will! Nasty Paws!!
David Amos
Larry Porter
Reply to @Larry Porter: The deed is done
Donald Craig
Virtually no one believes any Liberal. such as the UnSourced anecdote from MacKenna, that was yesterdays clickbait.
David Amos
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Reply to @donald craig: Methinks you should find what remains of my comments in yesterday's "clickbait" because this comment section is still open and now I am talking about you N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Oh My MY Methinks many political pundits are having Deja Vu bigtime as many comments (not just mine) go "POOF" N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methnks thats just more proof of the pudding N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @donald craig: Methinks everybody knows the reason why I did not offer many comments about McKenna's woes yesterday Sometimes less is more N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: You can read one of my replies in Twitter
David Amos
Methinks out of the gate in another article CBC does a fairly good job of explaining why Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger does not wish to debate his opponents as much as he did 4 years ago N'esy Pas?
Why Justin Trudeau's main foe in 2019 is the Justin Trudeau of 2015
A leader who frames every issue around ideals can expect blowback when he can't - or won't - live up to them
Aaron Wherry · CBC News · Posted: Sep 07, 2019 4:00 AM ET
"The Justin Trudeau of 2019 — the leader who is now seeking re-election — is not the Justin Trudeau of 2015, the young politician who became Canada's 23rd prime minister on a sunny day in November four years ago.
For one thing, the Trudeau of 2019 now knows exactly how much trouble can result when you make an open-ended, but absolute, promise to implement electoral reform.
The promises of 2015 (simple and aspirational) have become an actual record of governing (messy and imperfect). Not everything went according to plan. Some things didn't get done. There is now a list of missteps and controversies for Trudeau's political opponents to recite and dwell upon, from a vacation on the Aga Khan's island to the SNC-Lavalin affair. If Trudeau was a different kind of politician in 2015, he is now some degree closer to being just another politician in 2019."
Robert Romano
Trudeau shying away from any camera is highly unusual so why isn’t he attending all the debates? Maybe he doesn’t want to attend any open debates where the candidates NOT get the questions before hand. Sad because this is one of the only times we get to see the leaders answering questions, unlike the HoC question period!
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BROCK Blakely
I listened to some of the old debates and Justin won’t allow Harper to answer any questions without talking over him, very rude. Hopefully the moderator could be more independent instead of supporting the left
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Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: lolololol. "Methinks" lolololol.. how ironic
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Who is crying now?
David Amos
Hmmm
"The Leaders' Debate Commission, the body organizing two major federal election debates, has invited the leaders of five political parties to participate with the notable exception of People's Party Leader Maxime Bernier.
He has been left off the list, at least for now.
Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet, Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer, Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, Liberal Party Leader Justin Trudeau and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh have secured tickets to the Oct. 7 English-language debate and the French-language affair on Oct. 10."
Methinks all the other party leaders must be relieved by the fact that it appears Harper 2.0's lawyer buddy Bernier is persona non grata at all the debates N'esy Pas?
"So far, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Green Party Leader Elizabeth May have all agreed to participate in the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates.
A spokesperson for the Conservative Party said the debates are about Canadians, not the leaders, and Scheer would be attending all election debates."
David Amos
Whereas Trudeau is ducking debates just like Harper did last time methinks my fellow Maritimers may enjoy a little Deja Vu about the last time all the political parties focused on the middle class and jobs etc N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks some folks my enjoy the reading the comment section as well N'esy Pas?
Brian Spence
Zombie Harp was not invited to the debates.
Although he is convinced that he still controls the free world, wisdom prevailed.
Stephan Harper will not be coming back for you.
He has your money, that's enough.
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Gary Barrat
complete bias . the debates are all liberal forums !
David Amos
"Trudeau was keen to participate in multiple debates in 2015 — an election that saw the longest campaign period in modern Canadian history. But Trudeau's critics now argue that he is cherry-picking debates for political reasons."
David Amos
Methinks Trudeau is acting more and more like Harper N'esy Pas?
Brett Mclaughlan
Ironically if the sitting PM does not attend a debate the others should also cancel, why should they all subject themselves to debate and potentially damage if the others aren't there, there is no upside to Trudeau debating, and it seems his team has realized that. Others should consider that these other appearances have more downside than up
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Richard Lane
If you want to know the Character of someone in the Liberal Party; just check out those Conservative Election ads about their leaders. They have all proven to be very accurate.
"Just Visiting|" Michael Ignatieff......stuck around for appearances for a while...then bolted the country after they rejected him.
"Not ready"....of course, this is Justin Trudeau....and he proves he's "not ready" every time an issue more difficult than sock selection presents itself.
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Richard Lane
Sooo.......these are the folks making up the "Commission" eh?
CBC News.
Radio-Canada.
Global News.
CTV News.
The Toronto Star and the Torstar chain.
HuffPost Canada.
HuffPost Quebec.
La Presse.
Le Devoir.
L'Actualité.
Tell me again how it was the Conservatives who were trying to control the debates in their favour?
Looks like a laundry list of Liberal lovers; and Conservative haters. (except maybe Global)
But I bet Global would not have been approved post SNC.
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Rob Seitl
Checked that list of broadcasters on that commission on media bias fact check website, all lean centre left, no wonder Trudeau will only participate in their debates! All Liberal friendly
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Louise Fribance
Of course he’ll go on debates sponsored by the only media he’s supporting financially. What a coward he is.
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Stan Brown
“Umm ahh err I’m not going in debates because I’m top busy helping the middle class and saving the environment all at the same time..”
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Larry Porter
Because the most intelligent thing about JT is his socks!! And answering questions is not his bag!!
ABL 2019
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Eric Biallas
'Chicken Man"
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Phil Karza
If I were Trudeau, I would be wary of debating my record, too. He has a lot of 'splaining to do.
David Amos
April Wong
CH IC KEN.............gotta make sure they are scripted in Liberal friendly environments...some LEADER !
David Amos
Reply to @april wong: Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger is afraid to debate the circus he created N'esy Pas?
Jeff Bonzo
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Nothing to debate here... trudeau is the worst PM in Canadian history. Its a fact.
David Amos
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Reply to @Jeff Bonzo: Methinks many folks strongly disagree with you without further input from me N'esy Pas?
Daryll Mcbain
Trudeau can’t debate with unscripted questions.
David Amos
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain: True
Laine Smith
So the Coles notes version
Trudeau will only attend 2 debates hosted by a large group of left leaning media that he recently gave 600 million to..
David Allan
Reply to @Laine Smith:
Postmedia is left leaning?
Wow, you're so far right that Mussolini is left of you.
David Amos
Reply to @Laine Smith: Methinks many except the people working for CTV would agree that is it in a nutshell N'esy Pas?
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Allan: the Forrest, Forrest Gump point of view. which side of Forrest are you on?
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks Mr Gump would agree that Stupid Is As Stupid Does N'esy Pas?
Paul Ethier
Trudeau tells Canadians he has no time for election debates but takes day to attend NETFLIX Hasan Minhaj show. Arrogance and condescending hypocrisy defines inept Trudeau.
David Allan
Reply to @Paul Ethier:
"Trudeau tells Canadians he has no time for election debates but takes day to attend NETFLIX Hasan Minhaj show."
Which debate did he miss to do that?
Oh, none.
David Amos
Reply to @Paul Ethier: Oh So True
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Allan: 67000+ congrats on you missing the real world.
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks many would agree that you are the dude who is lost in cyberspace N'esy Pas?
Jack Lester
if a PM can't stand up and defend his 4 years in government he doesn't deserve re election ABL
David Allan
Reply to @jack lester:
"if a PM can't stand up and defend his 4 years in government he doesn't deserve re election ABL"
Agreed.
That doesn't actually fit the reality of this situation.
Trudeau is still attending debates.
He just took a page from the CPC Harper book on not attending all debates.
David Amos
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Allan: lolol. too funny 67000+ talking about reality.
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks you should tell your heroes Mr Scheer and Mr Bernier that you have a thing for Mr Allan and mean old me N'esy Pas?
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: "Methinks" that you should stop flogging your wee lapdog for at least 5 minutes per day. lololol.
Donald Craig
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: a perfunctory search of "David Amos". viola.. .
pictures of insignificant clowns.
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Marlene Lauder
I guess Quebecers don’t care that he is unethical.
At least that is what JT thinks.
Hope they don’t believe his sickening rationale
David Amos
Reply to @Marlene Lauder: Methinks you forgot the Orange Wave that sunk the liberals years ago I bet the current NDP leader/lawyer has not N'esy Pas?
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: Ontario will be between Orange (inner TO & Ham, some NOnt) and Blue. Libs will not get 10 seats here.
David Amos
Douglas Locke
Does it really matter? Is there any Canadian that still believes anything JT says??
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas Locke: Methinks everybody knows I never did and thats only one of the many reasons why I am running again N'esy Pas?
Jace Braidwith
The Liberal strategy backroom brain trust are pretty shrewd. They probably figure that they're lucky they're still even with the Conservatives. So, the less that Canadian voters see of Trudeau in the campaign, perhaps struggling to form a coherent sentence without the usual dull platitudes, the better.
David Amos
Trudeau snubs Munk, Maclean's/Citytv debates but will attend commission debates
David Cochrane · CBC News · Posted: Sep 05, 2019 5:57 PM
"The two debates that Trudeau has committed to attending are being organized by the Leaders' Debates Commission, which was established after the last election and is led by former governor general David Johnston."